In this episode, the brother and sister duo of the sit down with former NHL enforcer Scott Parker to talk about his career in the NHL and how he became one of the most respected enforcers in the game. We also talk about how he got into the UFC, his time in the NBA, and why he thinks hockey should be the new NBA. And of course, we talk a little bit about his love of the Rocky Ballet and Rocky Balcones. Enjoy the episode and spread the word to your friends and family about this podcast! Don't Tell Mom: e-mail us what you thought of this episode and we'll get back to you guys with new episodes soon! Timestamps: 3:30 - Scott Parker's NHL career 6:00 - How he became a UFC enforcer 8:00 - What it's like to be an enforcer in the NFL 9:00- How he got his nickname "The Rock" 11:15 - The Rock's love for the game 13:30 - How the NBA is the only sport where you can be a better enforcer than the NHL 16:20 - Why the NHL needs enforcer? 17:40 - Why hockey is better than the NBA 18:50 - How Scott Parker is a better than hockey 19:15 - Why he thinks the NHL is the best sport 22: How he would like to go to the NBA? 23:40 24:00 -- How he's going to make it in hockey 25: How much better than other sports? 26:10 - How much money does he need to be paid 27:10 28:30 -- What would you like to play in hockey? 29:40 -- What does he think about the NHL? 30:00 What's your favorite sport? 31:00 | How do you want to go in the middle of the game? 32:10 -- How does he feel about the game right now? 35:20 -- What s your favorite part of the NHL game 36:10 | What do you think you're going to do next? 33:30 | How would you think he'd like to make the most money in the league? 37:40 | What s his biggest challenge? 39:00 // 36:20 | Can you give me a shot?
00:02:57.000I said, hey, man, I need you to go to the NBA. Yeah.
00:03:00.000And tell them, you guys need enforcers like hockey.
00:03:04.000I'll be your man, you know what I'm saying?
00:03:06.000So you tell me you go out there and say, yo, cowboy fucking number 23 keeps hitting me in the ribs, you know, I don't like that.
00:03:11.000And I'll go out there and I'll just ice the fool right there on the middle of the court.
00:03:15.000It is weird that hockey is the only sport where you're allowed to beat people up in the middle of the game.
00:03:20.000Yeah, my buddy Scott Parker, I mean, he is the enforcer for the Colorado Abs.
00:03:23.000Well, he's retired now, but I mean, that was his job.
00:03:25.000So, you know, he would tell me he mentally had to prepare.
00:03:28.000Him and I talk a lot about just the preparation of fighting and how he'd get game ready because he knew he was fighting whoever was the other enforcer, so he'd be ready.
00:03:37.000And it's cool, like, interacting with him in that sense.
00:03:55.000It's just funny that any other sport, if you fight, you're not just ejected for the game, you're subject to penalties, you might get suspended.
00:04:06.000If, for instance, Blake just hauled off and jumped knee someone's whole face off in the middle of the game, that would be huge, and then they'd be in big trouble.
00:04:15.000Do you think it's because hockey, like, they're not that stable because you're on skates?
00:04:19.000Like, it takes a lot of fucking skate knowledge to be able to brawl while you're on skates.
00:08:47.000So, face cancer from skull, you're good.
00:08:50.000Face cancer from skull, I'm going to call up Red Bull and tell him, hey, I'm going to be the first guy to jump out of the astronaut thing you got there.
00:09:28.000They sequenced the gene of the flatworm recently, and they're looking to try to figure out, because the flatworms can regenerate, like you cut them in half, they become two completely different flatworms.
00:09:39.000I think they also have the same memories.
00:09:42.000Like if one flatworm knows where the food is and you cut them in half, both halves know where the food is.
00:09:47.000So it's very confusing to them because they're trying to figure out where memories are stored.
00:09:50.000But is that memories or is that just, you know, like years of...
00:10:19.000Do you remember the flip phone and the T9 texting?
00:10:22.000You were so happy with it, too, back then.
00:10:25.000Speaking of that, do you know, I mean, you have kids, so do you remember when you were 15 or 16 and you had a call like, hey, Mr. Rogan, is Sarah there?
00:14:07.000Man, it was the greatest dude on the planet, man.
00:14:10.000So, yeah, and I started training there, and him and my grandma would come down, and you're going to get me fucking teary-eyed now, but, you know, it just, it was like a dream for me, and So now I'm rooted.
00:16:59.000Maybe if you had somebody that kind of organized it for you and you just came in or have guys like Henry or someone who's a coach already work with them.
00:17:10.000Like Winklejohn and Jackson work together.
00:18:33.000When you come, I want to be able to put my name on you, you know what I mean?
00:18:35.000So work with you, train with you, have the coaches work with you, because when you say that you're from our stable, that's why I wanted to be a legit person.
00:19:39.000When Leonard was at his, you know, talking about retirement with me and everything, he's like, man, I just wish I could get a fight where someone would just stand there and fucking throw down with me.
00:19:48.000And I'm like, Leonard, brother, those days are gone.
00:19:51.000These guys are going to come in and take you down.
00:24:40.000Flips a bitch and comes beadlining for my boat.
00:24:44.000Now, had this not been the situation we were in, I would have congratulated this dude for the most epic fucking water spray I have ever seen thrown into another person's boat.
00:24:55.000Because at the last second, he cuts and throws the most massive wave that just drenches everyone's phone and just hits you like a tidal wave.
00:25:04.000Fucking pissed so I drive the boat to the shore and I get off the boat and I run about 200 yards down the shore trying to get him to come to me because my girl stood up and she's like that's fucking it and that's all I had to hear when I heard when she stood up and you know she's like that's it that's it you know what I'm saying that was it that was it that's all I needed to know okay that's it so I try to get this dude to run to me He does not.
00:31:03.000They went after Adam Carolla for something, some sort of patent, and they went after a few other people.
00:31:08.000But Apple had to wind up paying like 7 million bucks or something like that.
00:31:12.000Because for Apple, they have so much fucking money, it's easier for them to pay off a patent troll than it is to address it in court, spend all their resources.
00:31:22.000The UFC is doing that antitrust lawsuit.
00:31:25.000They're like, this is going to cost Give them a hundred million dollars in legal fees.
00:31:30.000But it's either that or pay people off.
00:32:21.000And when we were at Elevate, which is a strength conditioning, where you guys sent a whole bunch of those maces to, and they were like, you're going to fucking knock your teeth out.
00:32:30.000And I was like, well, then I'll be a toothless motherfucker, but let's do this.
00:32:36.000You're constantly doing shit like that, right?
00:33:00.000They've had yellowtail all over the coast around Santa Monica and Malibu, which is, you know, usually you gotta go out to fucking Hawaii to get those.
00:36:56.000I took the flight for life to the hospital and I remember laying there and Laying in the gurney had me strapped down because I was a fucking lunatic and I remember tipping the gurney over and I had to throw up and I threw up blood all over this poor nurse and she like did this little weird oh god I just got blood thrown up on me action and then I remember they set me back up and it was like the most peaceful feeling like everything was just okay like no pain Fucking,
00:37:23.000like, dying was okay, as stupid as that sounds, and crazy, like, it was just, it was just okay.
00:37:29.000I felt the best I ever felt in my life.
00:38:56.000We'll miss that fucking boat, but hey.
00:38:59.000Well, that boat is not very, there's not a lot of money in fighting for the king of Thailand anyway.
00:39:04.000No, but I mean, so the kickball, the only reason I got into fighting was because, A, I love, it was like my favorite thing to do and the whole world still is, but I would just see the world.
00:39:12.000They'd call me, and I was the guy they would call.
00:39:15.000You know, everyone talks about taking short notice.
00:39:29.000And I'd go, and fucking me and my buddy Mike Baldwin, who's like my best friend still to this day, who comes to everyone in my fights, would get off the plane, hit Roppongi.
00:41:06.000That's the real, I mean, the big thing is to win the title, right?
00:41:10.000Most guys, when they get to your position, they kind of start playing it safe.
00:41:14.000That's the difference between you and a lot of these guys.
00:41:16.000Because a lot of guys are wild in the beginning, but then somewhere along the line, they start realizing the consequences and the stakes, and they start playing it safe.
00:41:25.000Yeah, I just thought I'd play it safe kind of guy.
00:41:27.000Yeah, I could go wakeboarding the week of the fight and blow my knee out.
00:42:01.000In fact, before my last fight, I was supposed to get an MRI on my knees and I had an MRI on my chest because my fucking ribs were so separated and I made it very crystal clear to the UFC, I will go get this MRI. But regardless of the outcome,
00:42:36.000I went to Dallas and I went and trained with some kids in a gym and a dude threw a knee with no shin pad and just crushed me in my solar plex and separated it bad.
00:43:53.000But in MMA? God damn, it's common as fuck.
00:43:56.000Well, there's so many weird scrambling situations that you get involved in.
00:43:59.000You bring in guys to train with and sometimes those guys...
00:44:03.000That's the other thing, what you just said, the bringing in guys to train with.
00:44:07.000Man, I think that is one of the biggest mistakes that guys make is that these young guys that they bring into camp, they don't even know these guys.
00:44:23.000Especially if you're coming into a champ's camp or a guy who's a high-level guy who's well-respected, they want to say, dude, Donald Cerrone came into blah blah blah's camp and fucked him up.
00:48:21.000He was claiming to be a black belt, but he set off a bunch of alarms, like he would go off to Thailand to have these fucking no-holds-barred fights and come back, and yeah, I got him in a twister in the first round, and everybody was like, you just learned that last week.
00:48:34.000It was real weird, but one of the things he did that was hilarious is, this dude claimed to be in a no-rules kumite in the woods, so he had his friend drop him off.
00:48:43.000He brought a big-ass duffel bag, right?
00:49:55.000To this day, are there any losses that just fucking that when you get up in the morning you think about that one and it makes you just want to go running?
00:50:04.000You know, more or less the guys that talk about the Diaz fight tell me all the time, Diaz will beat your ass.
00:50:49.000Um, yeah, I was, well, you were, I'm not making me, yeah, I'm not making, he got in my head, and he got me, yeah, absolutely, and that shit doesn't happen no more.
00:50:56.000No, everyone tells me, Croner's in your head, Dos Anos, no, the fuck they're not.
00:54:42.000It drives me crazy that people like you need these fools that have never been punched in the face, they've never been strangled, they've never fought a day in their life, and they're the ones that get to decide what happens to you?
00:54:54.000They're the ones who get to tell Nick Diaz he has to sit out for five years?
00:54:59.000Yeah, but they're the pencil pushers of America, man.
00:55:00.000They're the people that in high school...
00:55:04.000I feel like those are the guys that now they have something to prove.
00:55:18.000The problem is people in positions of power that are accustomed to that position of power, and then they treat it like they're a fucking king or a queen.
00:56:21.000The world of professional athletes is so short that it's even more frustrating when someone gets...
00:56:26.000Like, if you're an accountant and they suspend you for five years, you know, hey, you could always get a job doing something else, and then five years from now you get reinstated as an accountant.
00:56:33.000But when you're an athlete, you've got this short window.
00:56:36.000I mean, I think Nick started fighting when he was 18. So, you know, he's 32 now.
00:57:05.000If something happened to me today, I don't know what I'd do.
00:57:09.000You would have to go on the road and start doing seminars, but because of your style and because of Nick's style, you guys are both really well-loved.
00:57:17.000If something like that happened with you, you could do seminars and make a few grand every weekend.
00:58:50.000I mean and Nick Diaz is right because you know like what his antics inside the octagon like Nick's antics inside the octagon fuck with a lot of people's heads sure like the first fight with Robbie Lawler like I remember there's the first time I ever saw Nick talk shit it was the first fight with Robbie Lawler because Robbie was dangerous so Nick Nick took that shit talking to DEFCON 5 and he got into the octagon And the first thing he does,
00:59:16.000He looks over at Robbie and goes, STALKTON, MOTHERFUCKER! STALKTON! And he starts walking around, STALKTON MOTHERFUCKER! And Robbie's like, what the fuck is he talking about?
01:00:23.000And he didn't do any of that leading up to the fight, which was even more fucked up, because I don't think Anderson expected it at all.
01:00:29.000And then when he was in there talking shit to him, you could see Anderson just, like, moving around and not doing anything, frozen and, you know, thinking about, like, there's a great thing about it.
01:01:00.000And then moves out of the way, and then decides, alright, now I'm gonna attack.
01:01:04.000Hits Bonner with a knee to the stomach, drops him, and then pounds him out, and TKO's him, and then looks like a guy in the fucking Matrix.
01:01:10.000I mean, and then to go from that confidence to the two Weidman fights, man, they did a number on him.
01:01:17.000They did a number on him like I've never seen before.
01:01:22.000It's fascinating to see how a guy can be almost just unbeatable, and then Weidman after the second fight, I mean, you gotta think about the second fight, Anderson broke his leg, right?
01:02:24.000No, a fucking fight is a fight, but I probably maybe should.
01:02:27.000But in this sport, it's not like that's what I was telling Blake Griffin today.
01:02:31.000Like, hey man, you have a bad day, you fall back and let your team pick up.
01:02:36.000It's like, I have a bad day, I'm the worst fighter in the world.
01:02:39.000My Twitter feed is just nothing but you pussy, you fucking die.
01:02:43.000Well, there's a difference between a guy losing a basketball game, too, and getting shit on by the fans.
01:02:47.000All you have to do is stay offline for a couple days, you know, and you hit that three-pointer to win the game and you're a fucking hero again.
01:02:54.000But for a fighter, man, especially because fighting, like when a kid, or especially an idiot, looks at a fighter, they look at something that is so unattainable, they might as well be talking to a unicorn.
01:03:08.000You know, they might as well be talking to a God.
01:03:10.000They might as well be talking to someone who's not even real.
01:03:12.000So they feel like they can talk shit to you because you're not even real.
01:03:56.000And I think, I speak maybe for all fighters, I don't know, I don't give a shit, but it's, I got my grandma sitting ringside.
01:04:02.000I got all the people I meet along the way that, you know, I've met and I've interacted with, hung out, and in their mind, when they talk to people like, oh yeah, I'm going to Cowboys fight, he's going to fuck this dude up.
01:06:09.000When you're at your best, like, let's say, in a particularly impressive fight, like the Jim Miller fight.
01:06:15.000The Jim Miller fight, you were on fire.
01:06:17.000You just look, you look so dominant in that fight, and you look so focused, and you just, your combinations, your distancing, everything was on point.
01:07:00.000I step back and I do this little hopping that puts me like, then I go behind and I'm fucking dialed in and it's like ding ding, everything just flows.
01:07:56.000So, do you think that because of the Dos Anjos loss, you got more focused, more intense, and then came out in the Dunham fight and you were just on fire?
01:08:05.000Fuck, I wish I had an answer for that.
01:09:09.000Well, do you think that it's possible that through mental training and through specific techniques you could get better at achieving that what you would call maybe like a flow state?
01:09:20.000The same way you got better at being a fighter.
01:09:23.000Think about your first days of fighting when you first learned Muay Thai.
01:11:37.000That all has to be, absolutely, yeah, you know, and I... Do you think that drinking has any effect on your physical performance, or do you think that you do it at a level where you're not fucking with your endurance?
01:14:20.000Well, Floyd Mayweather ate burgers, 49 and 0. Yeah, I mean, I just, I eat whatever I want, I drink whatever I want, and that's my life, man.
01:14:28.000So you never, like, you don't have, like, a Dolce guy or something like that that monitors your...
01:18:50.000So, I mean, like I said, I don't smoke weed.
01:18:53.000I mean, I've done it, of course, and we did a backpacking trip with a couple of buddies of mine, and they brought weed, so of course I smoked it.
01:19:27.000But the idea, folks, is that if you go down and then up, well, the distance between those points straight as a crow would fly is like a mile.
01:19:35.000But you're going like a mile and a half, two miles, maybe three.
01:19:39.000Forever, and you're still two fucking miles.
01:19:42.000So every time we're like, where are we at?
01:19:45.000Dude, I am amazed at how fucking tired hiking gets you.
01:19:51.000Especially with a fucking 80-pack ruck on your back.
01:21:50.000As much as he'll talk about how much he doesn't give a fuck and he's having a good time and everything like that, this is something he's been working towards for a long, long time.
01:21:59.000But while he's peeing, I can just tell you this, this is how this guy is all the time.
01:22:10.000When you hear about him getting in fights with people, the fact that he barely neck-kicked that guy, if a lot of people said that, I'd be like...
01:29:41.000Damn, dude, I try to let all that shit slide away.
01:29:44.000I try to look at it as objectively as possible.
01:29:46.000So, like, in the Ronda-Betch-Cohea fight, if Betch beat the fuck out of Ronda in that fight, I would be calling it as if it was one of the most spectacular moments in MMA, even though I'm a friend of Ronda's and a fan of hers.
01:34:35.000I mean, you know, there's a great video where Connor, love him or hate him, is teaching when he's coaching this season, the Ultimate Fighter, and they're doing these real specific drills, and he said a cool thing that I think John Cavanaugh says.
01:34:49.000He said, this is upgrading your software without damaging your hardware.
01:34:54.000There's two schools of thought, right?
01:34:56.000There's that school of thought, like fight smart, train smart, and then there's a school of thought where you ride jet skis over the top of cliffs the day before you fight.
01:38:11.000There's something appealing- It's called live a life worth living.
01:38:14.000But there's something appealing to the Spartan too, right?
01:38:16.000There's something appealing to the guys willing to not have sex, shut out all distractions, put a fucking poster on his wall, write down his goals, some Dan Gable type dude who's just stoic and fucking never-ending and indomitable spirit and this guy just doesn't do anything bad for his body.
01:40:34.000Well, when you get to the level that you're at, too, you also realize that those guys that push you are the reason why you put in that extra effort that takes you to the top of your ability.
01:40:43.000And there's a few guys that we all know that never...
01:40:48.000Quite reach the top of their ability like you hear about them in the gym.
01:40:52.000They're fucking on fire They just have that you know they have they have days with their world beaters and for whatever reason They don't ever get it together in the moment of crisis gym heroes.
01:41:06.000It's this sport is unbelievable man, it's like a You have to be able to go out there and fight at your best every single day.
01:41:14.000And you have to execute under insane pressure.
01:41:17.000That's the most admirable quality about it.
01:41:19.000You know, like, sometimes when I look around, like, that was one of the craziest things about Ronda's fight, was after she knocked out Betch Gaheya, she just strutted around the cage and looked up at everybody, just took it all in.
01:41:32.000She strutted, she just face-planted that chick on a straight-out-of-Compton ad, okay?
01:41:57.000You know think of like the Edson Barboza fight when you crack him with that jab and then take his back like that moment when he taps and you stand up and the whole crowd goes fucking apeshit because it was chaos up until that moment right he came out guns blazing then you caught him with that jab he went down you got his back and strangled him that moment man when you were in the fire in that moment Barboza says he blinks but in that moment About 20 seconds before that moment,
01:42:26.000Because he hit me with fucking everything he had in the kitchen sink, and when he unloaded, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, kicked me as hard as he could, and I just stood there, and he looked at his corner and was like, now what?
01:46:38.000Ultimately, outside of you guys competing against each other, you admire what it, because you uniquely know what it takes to be in the position that Anthony Pettis or Rafael Dos Anjos or Nate Diaz or, you know, fill in the blank.
01:46:51.000All those guys, you uniquely know what it takes to be in.
01:46:53.000It's a very small fraternity of guys at the elite level.
01:46:57.000And your division, 155, is just chaos.
01:47:01.000Like that whole division is like, look at it.
01:47:03.000It's just killer after killer after killer.
01:48:36.000I think he really struggles to make 145, and I think with this new law where you can't use the IV, you know, when he fought Chad Mendes, man, at the weigh-in, he looked extremely drawn.
01:52:23.000Be honest like I look at Aldo and even though Aldo has been Dominant for so long as one of the best fighters He's had a lot of tough fights and those eventually will catch up to you It's like the Chad Mendez fight the last fight was a really good fight.
01:52:37.000It was like a back-and-forth fight and Mendez Mendes hit him with some fucking bombs.
01:52:41.000It was a great back-and-forth fight, and he tagged Mendes with a big shot at the end of the first round.
01:52:47.000I think the buzzer rang, and then he hit him.
01:52:58.000Has Aldo fought anyone who hits as hard as McGregor?
01:53:03.000Well, Chad Mendez hits pretty fucking hard, but I think Connor may have some special power, not like a magic power, but I think he's one of those guys that just really has super heavy hands.
01:53:19.000The way he fights is very, very intelligent.
01:53:22.000You know, I was joking around with Donald about his training methods that he calls it, him and John Cavanaugh's co-host, they described it as upgrading your software without damaging your hardware.
01:53:32.000So they're doing all these really technical drills on hitting specific points, but they're not crushing each other.
01:53:37.000They're just drilling it into the mind and getting...
01:55:55.000There was a there's a woman named Gabby Garcia still is but she used to be overweight and she's like world jiu-jitsu champion and she used to have this giant crazy face well she lost all her body fat and then I guess she might have had some facial surgery but all of a sudden she's a giant hot chick It's real weird.
01:58:45.000Did you see this new thing with Putin?
01:58:47.000Putin took $15 billion from this guy, stole this guy's company, and then the guy's exiled in the south of France, and now he's suing the Russian government.
01:59:36.000It's always been run really by a group of, you know, he used to be the Politburo, but for the most part, he's just doing what the old Russian model was, which was get the biggest guns on my side and I'll kill him.
01:59:46.000But it's 2015. I mean, isn't it crazy when you see a guy who's running like essentially a complete undercover gangster organization?
01:59:57.000He apparently, when they were trying to attract investment in the 90s, the problem was American companies, German companies, French companies coming in, and these gangsters, these Russian guys would come in and go, hey, you gotta pay us money.
02:00:12.000And a couple of them said no, and they just shot him right there in the office.
02:00:15.000So Putin decided this was going to be a disaster for any kind of foreign investment.
02:00:19.000So Putin said, all right, well, I know how to deal with this.
02:00:23.000And when they were having the mafia guys hang out together in their own clubhouses or whatever, he had these Spetsnaz guys show up in their vans.
02:00:31.000They just show up in the middle of the day, open up, grrrr, And just killed a shitload of them, like 100, 200 in one day.
02:00:37.000They had a moment of silence, apparently, before he had his, uh, before he had his, his, uh, whatever it was, you know, his meeting.
02:00:43.000They had a moment of silence for the 200 citizens that were killed, and they went on their business.
02:00:48.000And that was the message to anybody who said, you want to shake down foreign companies, see what the fuck happens.
02:02:48.000See, this gets to you psychologically, because I know your background, like how you grew up, and you're creating this environment at that ranch that's not just a training environment, but a place where you're trying to give these guys hospitality and bring them into a family situation,
02:03:24.000It's like because your grandparents raised you and you're a wild kid and you didn't feel like you've had that thing when you were talking earlier about trainers that wouldn't put their name on you.
02:03:36.000Now you're doing the total opposite of that.
02:06:02.000All these old school black belt guys gave speeches and Chuck Norris gave a speech.
02:06:05.000I just sat next to Chuck Norris and talked for an hour and a half.
02:06:08.000We just talked about the old days of the karate tournaments and the old days of kickboxing and, you know, what it was like to hang out with Bruce Lee.
02:06:16.000It was one of the best moments of my life.
02:06:19.000You didn't hit him with any Chuck Norris lines?
02:06:21.000Like, Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the earth away from him?
02:06:24.000How many questions does Chuck Norris do?
02:06:26.000I couldn't annoy him with any of that.
02:09:02.000And he goes, usually we do, but this year we just let the kids do it, and we're just sitting.
02:09:07.000And I went, And I meant to say, I fucking meant to say, I've been skiing all day, my feet are killing me, and I'm not going to ski anymore.
02:10:28.000Or she's trying to snake the trailer down and he's sitting in the boat screaming at her snake in the trailer down while 30 other boats are trying to dock.
02:10:58.000They say they're, and when, and realtors, realtors see a lot of dark shit between couples as they're looking for houses and deciding what they want, where they can't afford a fucking house.
02:11:30.000Poor dude is in some situation where the girl wants him to live over his means, you know, and it gets weird, you know, when she's like, we need a better house, we need to get a better house, and he can't really afford a better house, so he's scrambling.