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00:01:08.000Are you, like, because you use your voice a lot, you know, when you're on stage and you use it in different registers and, you know, you podcast.
00:01:14.000Do you, like, have you ever had problems with it?
00:01:50.000Three times and he kept getting up and then he dropped Arlovski and then Arlovski came back and knocked him out and by the end of the fight I was standing up screaming and I had to realize I didn't in my pants first I didn't know I was up until I was like I was fucking standing up I don't even know I've I've only done that a couple times ever I just all of a sudden I'm standing up.
00:02:09.000Well the fact that you can scream and you don't lose your voice I think is remarkable because it's like I Back when I was bartending, I would lose my voice all the time just from trying to raise your volume.
00:02:21.000But when I quit bartending, my voice went up like an octave.
00:02:25.000But I had to go to speech therapy, so I learned all these things about how to use my voice.
00:03:57.000It's like some people have that incredible ability to, like, channel their person through this incredible voice, like Bukowski or somebody like that.
00:04:04.000And, like, you know, so they're easier to listen to.
00:04:07.000Well, Bukowski's poems were always just raw and interesting, but they were nothing like when he read them.
00:07:21.000Because he had that series, like, who's the filmmaker?
00:07:25.000He did a lot of concert films, and I can't remember his name right now.
00:07:28.000But in the 60s, he was taking Hendrix footage, and he was taking a lot of festival footage in the 60s, which nobody was really doing at that time, or at least nowhere near what they're doing now.
00:07:37.000Wait, this isn't like some of the rounder stuff.
00:09:01.000But I think the idea about stand-up is, though, that you're going to try to be as self-indulgent, like, only...
00:09:08.000You try to be as little self-indulgent as possible.
00:09:11.000I mean, that's the wrong way of phrasing that.
00:09:13.000But the least amount of self-indulgent humanly possible and the most amount of entertainment for the people that are listening.
00:09:18.000So the most amount of self-deprecation, the most amount of laughs that you can get out of it, the most amount of humility and approaching the laugh so you don't make people uncomfortable.
00:09:28.000There's all these variables in achieving the laugh.
00:09:31.000And achieving the laugh is like the proof that you're on the same level and then they appreciate your sincerity and then you're funny and you're hilarious.
00:11:30.000Of difficult times in that region of the country, but I'll be honest with you, I love playing in Pittsburgh, I love playing in Cincinnati, and every time I'll have fun, harmless banter about our sports teams.
00:11:44.000I can't really say the same about Baltimore as much as, like Baltimore is a great town, but we only really went through there once, and we literally stopped to eat dinner and found crack on the ground.
00:13:43.000I listened to a NPR podcast a little while ago that explained how, was it the 60s boom?
00:13:53.000It was post-war, post-World War II. Post-World War II. And they're making all these housing ordinances for the vets and things like that, and they're like, hey guys, welcome back.
00:14:18.000I mean, it would be like all of these, you know, schools that just wouldn't let intelligent African Americans in, and you wouldn't get the education that you wanted or deserved or, you know, could achieve.
00:14:29.000And it was just like, you know, you're kind of stuck in this box, which is those neighborhoods.
00:16:05.000We were just talking about nail salons.
00:16:07.000Something that we found out that's really disturbing is that, you know, there's like a dime a dozen nail salons in New York City or places like, you know, L.A. where it's really cheap to get your toes and your fucking ears painted.
00:16:35.000No, but these nail salons, they bring in men and women from, you know, Thailand, Vietnam, and they're like indentured servants and they make them work and they don't pay them and they live in these, like, apartments with, like, 15 people sleeping in one room.
00:16:57.000I think in this, like, what you can control, for sure, first, is in this country.
00:17:02.000You know, I mean, things like what we talked about before the show about my friend Justin Wren and all these little artifacts he brought back from the Congo.
00:17:10.000Like, that guy's, like, changing things in, like, real time.
00:17:14.000But, like, in this country, I think there's a bunch of things that could be done that are just not done.
00:17:20.000And one of the major ones is they have to treat really poor neighborhoods not like a static reality that has just, this is what it is, this is a really poor neighborhood.
00:17:29.000They have to put it like it's a problem, like a wildfire.
00:19:04.000This kind of thing is part of that collective effort.
00:19:08.000As giving people that first grain of thought of like, oh, wow, I never knew that there were zoning laws in Baltimore and inner cities that...
00:19:16.000It made it really hard for black people to get ahead in life, that they had no scholarships.
00:19:22.000The changes that need to take place, like we don't have some kind of solution, like this think tank, but you have this platform.
00:19:31.000Where you can start talking about it and informing people.
00:19:34.000And, you know, when I get really worked up and think about, like, what can we do?
00:19:40.000You know, we have this band that is growing and getting attention.
00:19:44.000And, you know, you have these opportunities to sit here and talk to somebody like you, and people are listening.
00:19:49.000And, you know, you hope that that starts more another train of thought that can actually make some kind of difference.
00:19:58.000I think people are already having these conversations, and one of the things that they love about podcasts like this is because, you know, you go, yes, other people are thinking like this too.
00:20:07.000Like, people are wondering, how did we get to be grown adults with this chaotic system in place that was established by people who, you know, when you go back to the origins of civilization, even just in this country, which is like a really recent country, those people were monsters!
00:20:25.000Those people that came here on boats, they were monsters.
00:20:42.000The first, like, the first interactions between the West, or England mainly, or Europe and Japan, you know, and the journeys that these people would have to go through to trade, to make contact with these countries.
00:20:53.000And, I mean, it's the way they looked at the world then was the way we look at the universe now.
00:20:58.000It's just like, I don't know what's over there.
00:21:08.000You know, so it's like this super, I think, It's a climate of defensiveness that we all, just as a person, you grow up kind of trying to defend yourself against the environment.
00:21:41.000That's why it's insane to have our civilization run the way it's run now just because it's been done this way for 100 plus, 200 plus, whatever years.
00:21:51.000If we wanted to start out today, how many people do you think would accept an electoral college?
00:21:55.000How many people would accept the idea that you actually just elect a representative, and that representative can actually, like, he can choose to vote against the wishes of the rest of the state.
00:22:04.000Like, you can, you have, like, electoral college, and then you have, when each state has a certain amount of points that go in, and you watch the, when you watch the vote, like, they're like, how many votes is what?
00:22:41.000There's a lot of people that believe he won and that they fucked him out of Florida.
00:22:44.000And there's also, like, the Republicans that did some weird shit where they, like, they crossed people's names out and banned them if they thought they were black.
00:22:53.000And then they would have to prove that they weren't the person that was off this list of, like, felons or, you know, like, sometimes people—Jimmy White.
00:23:02.000There's a lot of fucking Jimmy Whites, man.
00:23:04.000If you're Jimmy White and you live in Baltimore and there's a thousand of the Jimmy Whites and 20 of them have been to jail, good luck getting registered to vote.
00:23:13.000They're going to put you on a fucking list and then you have to go to court to make sure that you can vote.
00:23:46.000No, you don't need to sit by a candlelight.
00:23:48.000You don't need to write with a feather.
00:23:49.000You can talk and your computer will dictate it.
00:23:53.000We're in a new world, and this world of, it's hard to get information across the states, so you need a representative, you want to make sure that every area, even the high population areas, they don't dominate the rural farmlands, so we need to have some sort of a system where people give a fuck about Iowa.
00:26:39.000The frontier days when the country focused solely on this one thing together, building this country.
00:26:47.000Well, maybe not together, because there's so many immigrants and so many people that were like...
00:26:51.000Isolated and but the point is that like it's interesting to witness Everyone fighting their battle, you know, but there's these great parts of the show when They all have to come together for a common purpose like there's robbers robbing the train that gets them their pay And if they don't get their pay they're broke,
00:27:09.000you know, so there's like this interesting camaraderie and then their enemies and then and And that's kind of how it is in real life, which is interesting to think about because we're all so different.
00:27:21.000And when you have these efforts, and I don't want to say common enemy because that sounds really negative, but when you're all working towards something with your differences, that's when actual progress starts being made.
00:29:22.000You've got to make sure a guy like that doesn't drown.
00:29:25.000But I want to tell you this fucking cool thing, which was that, like, you know, I love my parents so much, and they're really incredible people, and I've watched them grow in this way that, like, they're always changing.
00:29:35.000And even though they have, like, their beliefs, and my dad has worked his fucking ass off his entire life, you know, and he's a, you know, middle-class business owner, just retired, so he's got this, you know, this view on life.
00:29:48.000We put him in Colorado, and they caravaned for five shows, and we had lunch with these incredible people, this judge, this lawyer, and these kind of liberal, hippie politicians in Colorado.
00:30:07.000We were sitting at a table with my parents, and it was so cool to watch them interact with people that they would never hang out with.
00:30:14.000And then watch them sort of, like, lay back and have, like, just, like, absorb this information that's not something that they wouldn't, that they would have on a regular basis.
00:30:23.000And so they left, and it was such an interesting, like, I really felt our relationship change a little bit after that.
00:30:30.000You know, and just watching them let loose.
00:30:32.000My dad really wanted to smoke weed, but it just never worked up.
00:30:34.000No, he did, but he had to drive, and that was responsible, because he would have been fucked up.
00:30:39.000Do you think, like, as you've gotten more successful and as you've gotten older, your dad can look at you not just as his daughter, but also as an adult human being where he respects your opinion?
00:31:27.000Wailing out these songs and people going nuts you don't think that must make him think like hold I gotta I gotta Appreciate like what it took to do that I have to appreciate what's happening here like this isn't just my daughter She doesn't just have to listen to me.
00:31:42.000She's not like I'm not right about everything I can't be right about everything cuz I can't do that no we he's both my mom and my dad are really they Their support is beyond anything I ever could have wanted.
00:31:58.000I moved to New York City when I was 16 because I used to be a catalog model and I was doing really well.
00:32:08.000I was starting my junior year of high school and I was really fucking driven.
00:32:12.000I had no inhibitions and I was like, I want to go here and I want to go here.
00:32:19.000And they let me move there when I was 16. And it was fucking crazy.
00:32:24.000And it honestly was one of those, I think, kind of pivotal moments where it was their belief in the fact that I could do what I wanted because they were like, I think you have something special, you know, which is like a really incredible feeling to have.
00:38:09.000And at the end, she was such a monster.
00:38:10.000When they found what she had done, they found the bones of these hundreds of women, and they knew that she had been doing it forever, and the servants knew, and she'd bring girls in, and they would be screaming, and she would cut them up in front of everybody and tie them up and, like, fill tubs with their blood and throw their bodies aside.
00:38:49.000It's so scary where people can get to if they have a position of ultimate power, if they have a slave, if they have royalty.
00:38:59.000You've seen what's going on in Los Angeles with all these guys from the Middle East that keep doing crazy things and they're getting arrested and they're claiming diplomatic immunity.
00:39:07.000Like that's Lethal Weapon, bringing it back to Lethal Weapon.
00:39:09.000Sorry, but that was like a big part of that movie.
00:39:11.000Was that like the South American African guy?
00:45:20.000When I think about guitar, that's a huge reason why I want to take martial arts is because of how it would impact playing the guitar, playing an instrument, doing anything.
00:45:37.000I think if you watch like a little kid's gymnastics class, I take my kids to gymnastics and I watch these little kids bounce around and it's very interesting watching like someone nail something.
00:45:50.000You know, like there's these girls that are older, you know, probably like 12 or 13 or something along those lines, and they're like just starting to figure out how to do backflips, and they're just starting to figure out how to land gracefully.
00:46:02.000And then there's girls that are even older than that, like maybe 16 and 17, that are just wicked.
00:46:07.000You watch them flip through the air, and you're like, Jesus!
00:46:40.000And I've played a lot when I was a kid, less now, but basically I've narrowed my practice down to one thing.
00:46:46.000One thing, and I feel pretty fine about it.
00:46:48.000You know, I feel like with that one kind of concept, I can get where I want to go, which is have any of my limbs do what any of my other limbs can do.
00:47:32.000When I watch a heavy-duty drum solo, I think half of what this guy has to do is get away from whatever restrictions his body has on his movements.
00:47:46.000Like, half of what a drummer is doing, it's so physical.
00:47:50.000There's so much speed and coordination involved that half of what you're doing is heightening your ability to move in, like, the exact way you want it to move to create a certain sound.
00:48:06.000I mean, I could eventually, I'm sure, learn how to play drums, but I'm saying, like, if I brought someone into my world and made them do something that I do physically all the time, like...
00:48:14.000Like an odd thing, like play pool or something like that.
00:48:16.000If they didn't know how to play pool, it would be real awkward and goofy, and their body wouldn't move right.
00:48:21.000But if they know where the fucking stick is going, Even though I don't know how to do it.
00:51:29.000I think about old people a lot when I get, like, you wake up and you have a stiff neck and you're like, fuck.
00:51:35.000And you're miserable and you're like crotchety because your neck hurts or your shoulder or whatever from the van or whatever we're doing on tour.
00:51:43.000And then I'm like, this must be what it's like to be old.
00:51:46.000No, except like a hundred times worse.
00:53:28.000And I think the girl was trying to get away from the guy, allegedly.
00:53:32.000I really shouldn't talk about this because the amount of information I had about the actual, the actual, you know, physical case that the murder-suicide is very small.
00:53:42.000But because I think they're still investigating it, right?
00:54:14.000I don't believe in ghosts, but I don't not believe in ghosts.
00:54:15.000But the idea what a ghost is, a ghost hunter is, right?
00:54:19.000If you're a person who's going to a psych ward, okay, and you're waiting in the basement for ghosts, you go into a place where people have been murdered.
00:54:25.000Yeah, there's some fucked up energy there.
00:55:00.000But there's a theory this dude had that low frequency sound, like crazy low, below 40 hertz, which is just like military experience.
00:55:08.000Experimented with like dog sounds with this is below that yeah, they were saying buildings that produce this kind of Frequency machinery that does this there's a correlation between Haunted houses and these places because this kind of frequency can induce hallucination and people can do some really erratic behavior.
00:55:25.000It's crazy There's like there's like love frequency.
00:55:28.000There's there's the what frequency did hitler?
00:55:32.000There's like the 440 what is it vegetarian?
00:56:29.000It was so beautiful, but wilderness is everywhere, and everybody's like, if you go up here, you got to be careful.
00:56:37.000We were in Wyoming, we were in Yellowstone, and we heard so many stories, so many bear stories and things that really freaked me out because I don't have anything to defend myself.
00:56:51.000Well, you're right, though, about being cautious about nature.
00:56:54.000For the most part, the reality about animals, for the vast majority of instances, animals don't want to have anything to do with people.
00:57:02.000They want to get the fuck away from you, if at all possible.
00:57:05.000Well, that's not true, but when we were in Yellowstone, so I heard all these stories about people, like, you know, people get killed by grizzlies a few times a year, and we were in Yellowstone, and literally a week later, There was a hiker that got nabbed by a grizzly bear.
00:58:55.000Those are the ones that you have to be the most worried, but you've just got to be prepared.
00:58:59.000If you bring guns, you always have to be prepared.
00:59:02.000But you can shoot a grizzly and it'll still eat you.
00:59:05.000You have to shoot a grizzly with the right kind of gun, and you have to have more than one person, and you have to be ready in case that happens.
00:59:11.000But most of the time, you don't shoot them.
00:59:13.000You shoot at the ground, and you scare them off, and they're like, fuck this, and they just get out of there.
00:59:18.000You can enter into the natural world In most situations, and get out without having to do anything where something dies where it didn't have to die.
00:59:29.000But there are occasions where, like, I knew a guy who went hunting in Alaska, and they got charged by a grizzly bear and wound up having to kill the grizzly bear.
00:59:41.000The grizzly bear tried to get their kill.
01:00:06.000They used to have that show on, I don't know, Discovery Channel or whatever, it was called The Hunt.
01:00:11.000It was one where the guy from Metallica, James Hatfield from Metallica is apparently a big time hunter, and he's hunted all over the world, or at least a bunch of different species.
01:01:02.000They just want to stay away from people.
01:01:03.000Well, so when we were up there, you know, we're like hanging with the locals.
01:01:07.000And of course, like, I'm not from those areas, so I have all these questions about what's it like out there in nature.
01:01:12.000You know, you live in Montana, and, you know, we met this guy who was just...
01:01:17.000And maybe he was being dramatic, but he was telling me all these...
01:01:20.000Horrifying stories where I'm like, why would anyone want to put themselves in that position?
01:01:25.000And I think it's a matter of, like you said, being fully aware of the environment, having that preparation.
01:01:33.000I think it's also the stories people tell, honestly.
01:01:36.000Like you're in that area and there's like a whole culture of bare fear and things like that, at least in certain But that's what we talk about.
01:01:46.000We talk about this one guy who got killed in Yellowstone.
01:01:49.000I don't think it's the kind of threat.
01:01:50.000I don't know why I'm reacting so strongly to it right now, but I feel like it's not the kind of threat.
01:01:55.000It's because you smoke the cocaine weed.
01:01:56.000It's not the threat right now, right here.
01:01:59.000When you're living in Los Angeles, the grizzly bear is not the threat.
01:02:02.000But you're smart to be aware that it's on the table if you're out there.
01:02:48.000Like some of my friends that I've been lucky to be friends with will take me to the woods, like Cameron Haynes or Steve Rinella, the guy who hosts that meat eater show.
01:03:03.000We've talked about that a bunch of times like we should do shows where we take people for the first time that have never been hunting because it's such a bizarre experience.
01:03:11.000Even if you don't shoot anything, just being in the woods in Montana makes you go, oh my god.
01:03:46.000Well, we also, it's like we don't see nature a lot, so I think sometimes we look at nature like an old girlfriend that we haven't called in a long time.
01:03:54.000We only have this really elevated idea of who she was, and then you get back with her and you realize this bitch doesn't give a fuck about Damn!
01:04:03.000It's like that because when you're on the top of a mountain and there's no cell phone service and there's animals creeping around, you're like, this is a fucking dangerous place to be standing still.
01:04:18.000I think that that girlfriend is here, though.
01:04:21.000Like, I think there's this sad misconception with the way that people treat quote-unquote nature when they drive out to a national park as opposed to when they treat their urban setting, which is there is nature here, but people don't think about the fact that they throw their trash out the window and there's ducks in the pond right next,
01:07:44.000I've never had a pet rat, but I do know that cats, other than a few breeds of super fluffy Persians that get to that weird, non-aggressive state, they're just these weird...
01:08:05.000But, you know, then you see these videos of, like, huge African lions in, like, these reserved areas of, you know, of Africa snuggling with the guys that work there.
01:08:19.000If they're fed well, and they're taken care of well, and they're raised well, it's very obvious that there's some guys that know how to make a friendship with a lion.
01:08:32.000Yeah, but it's not that much different than the idea of a wild dog.
01:08:36.000Like, there was a few instances, like, I think there was one where a couple was killed in Georgia, I want to say it was like a couple of years ago, by wild dogs.
01:08:45.000There was a pack of wild dogs that killed these people.
01:08:48.000Because people had let their dogs loose, and the dogs just never came home, or maybe they didn't feed them, or, and they became feral, or they were raised outside.
01:08:57.000I read about coyotes attacking someone, a woman in Canada, a singer.
01:09:09.000We stayed at a winery on Saturday night actually Joe It was a really sweet Rogan fan this this fella that was like you guys need a place to stay after the show and of course we do you know photos of you guys in Naked online now we have never been naked We always keep it on.
01:11:28.000In the Cleveland Metroparks, where I'm from and where my family resides, there's obviously a deer population that's out of control, like a lot of places, and people get sick of hitting them with their cars.
01:11:40.000So they thought it was a good idea to bring coyotes in to deplete the deer population, which they're not native to that area.
01:11:47.000So there's coyotes in Ohio now, which is so fucking weird.
01:12:03.000A good family friend of ours was telling the story that her young children were playing in the backyard as they always did and she looked outside the window and she said there are two coyotes in their tree line and she ran outside and her little kids were just playing there.
01:12:42.000But I'm not exactly sure if you really want to be safe and you really want to have a city and civilization.
01:12:50.000I don't think you want a large population of wolves.
01:12:54.000I think it's probably super important.
01:12:56.000If you want to keep this whole people thing going on at the level that's going on now where we can get new Samsung phones every six months.
01:13:03.000I really don't think we can keep these fucking wolves around.
01:13:07.000This shit is the whole reason why we invented cities in the first place.
01:14:01.000If a lion ate your friend, if you came home one day and a lion was eating Ben, what kind of an attitude do you think you'd have towards that lion?
01:17:12.000I think society, we hang on a string all the time, and we keep fixing that string.
01:17:18.000We're really good at keeping the string going, but we assume that the string has to stay, and we know that that's not really true, and that's why we love movies about where the string breaks, and Mad Max, like, ah!
01:18:44.000About, you know, we're talking about like hanging by a string and stuff like that and you know, oh god the government sucks and all this stuff and it's all this is true there's there's you know you could click a button and just kill a lot of people and but at the end of the day while we're here there's some really beautiful things to experience like your shows comedy shows and you make people feel good.
01:19:12.000And, you know, there's all these incredible things.
01:19:15.000And, you know, something that we get to see on the road, like, we'll have, like, our scheduled Honey Honey shows where you buy your tickets.
01:19:22.000And then occasionally we'll have these really cool opportunities to play, like, concert series that, like, small towns will have where they have no idea who we are, which is awesome because we went to this town in Dillon, Colorado.
01:19:38.000Where literally, like, I would say maybe 10% of the people were there to see us, but the rest of the people were there because they lived in the town, and they wanted to have their entertainment for the night.
01:19:49.000And so there was all these different people.
01:19:51.000There were, like, really young families and really old people, and they all brought their lawn chairs and beers, and we were in this outdoor amphitheater on this lake.
01:20:00.000There's, you know, I don't know, like 500 or 600 people there.
01:20:05.000And it was such a cool experience because there was this collective experience of all these people that came together for whatever they needed at the time that wasn't like, you know...
01:20:21.000We were offering what we could to the situation.
01:20:24.000But at the end of the day, it was really beautiful because it was all these people that were having this experience together in their own way.
01:20:30.000And it was different races, demographics, and like it was just we had this moment.
01:20:39.000Right now, when the world is in this really funny place that's really scary, and we can put energy into how scary it is and all that stuff, but we can also put energy into these experiences together where we're trying to figure it out.
01:22:37.000Please, you'd shoot yourself right in the face.
01:22:40.000If I gave you two bullets, one of them was for the turtle that you were going to kill to stay alive for the first day, and the second one you're going to put right in your fucking mouth.
01:23:30.000We started to do some work with Farm Aid, which has been really cool.
01:23:34.000And learned a lot about, you know, the whole fucking structure of, you know, corporate food, corporate, literally, like, all the hormonal shit.
01:23:54.000But, you know, the majority of the food that people eat in their grocery stores, you go to Safeway or you go to fucking Piggly Wiggly, that shit is toxic.
01:24:35.000I don't know what you actually get off of a piece of meat.
01:24:39.000It seems to me like, logically, I am attracted to a darker, richer meat because I feel like it would be a healthier animal, a more vibrant animal.
01:27:42.000The first time I had like a gynecology thing when I was like I was like 18 and it was a male doctor and he was so hot that I like did not know what to do with myself.
01:29:04.000Vaginas are infinitely more sensitive to criticism.
01:29:08.000You know, you can make a joke about a dude having a stinky dick, but if you make a joke on stage about a woman's malodorous vagina, you would be a terrible person.
01:29:20.000They wouldn't have anything to do with you.
01:35:00.000Why don't we all just fucking sit back?
01:35:03.000Well, Dick Ford, especially if a guy has like maybe some sort of an alligator skin cowboy boots on and he puts his feet down on the ground in some sort of an office chair, you know what I'm saying?
01:35:12.000Some sort of a risky environment and then puts his hands behind his head, leans back and goes, well, how much do you like this job?
01:39:14.000And then, like, so you have this crazy sport that everybody resists, like, oh my god, it's barbaric, it's masculinity, it's the most toxic left.
01:39:27.000The biggest star in the craziest, most violent sport the world has ever known is a beautiful woman who's highly skilled, who is a living Charlie's Angels movie, who flies to other continents to beat the fuck out of itches.
01:44:27.000When you're around him, and when I was a kid, I used to watch the Donny and Marie show on TV. So to meet him in real life, I was like, is this real?
01:46:07.000I think in the end, being a nice guy like Donny Osmond is more important than knowing exactly how stars are made.
01:46:19.000Knowing how planets are formed in real life, it doesn't really apply to the real world because it's a super slow process and if you dwell on that, you don't have any time.
01:46:35.000It's talking about All this gas, all this matter just boom, colliding together and falling into orbit of the sun and becoming this planet that we're on.
01:49:38.000If it came to the difference between a woman who's a kickboxer defending herself with the same amount of experience in the gym as a woman who's a jiu-jitsu black belt defending herself, it would be, in my opinion, I would favor the woman Like her ability to dominate a much larger opponent using only jujitsu skills,
01:50:49.000Whereas like with striking, the real problem that a lot of women face is the actual physical size of their bones.
01:50:55.000Like when you're punching people especially.
01:50:58.000Like unless you have your hands fully wrapped up like in a good boxing wrap and then a padded leather glove on top of that, it's hard to just punch people in the face.
01:51:38.000There's some times where like, I wish I had the fucking manpower, literally, to like, We were in Nashville like two weeks ago for Americana Fest.
01:51:48.000We were playing this festival and we were driving under this bridge and there were these two guys beating the fuck out of each other in the middle of the street.
01:51:56.000There was like a bottle over the face.
01:51:57.000This one guy was choking the other guy.
01:52:42.000Just because it's right in front of you, that shit could be 100 miles away.
01:52:46.000Unless, unless there's someone in that mixture that needs you, like, if there's someone who's small and they're getting beaten up by someone big, then everything changes.
01:56:05.000I think conversations are, in a lot of ways, they're like numerical exchanges.
01:56:12.000Like, you know, you say something that's 30, and she goes, oh, this bitch wants to get crazy, and she says something that's 37, and then you might just ratchet her right up to 90, and everybody's like, what in the fuck?
01:56:23.000You're like, what happened to 42 in 1670?
01:56:26.000But if we take away the cultural context of the words, she calls me a cunt.
01:56:31.000My mother told me, don't let her girl call you a fucking cunt.
01:56:33.000If a girl calls you a cunt, you stab her.
01:56:35.000You stab her in front of your mother, it's fucking to the death, to the death!
01:57:40.000I really think that's what a lot, when people's like, you know, someone hits you with a 32 and you hit them with a fucking 40, you know, like, whoa, I walked away on a 40. Yeah.
01:57:48.000You know, and I was gonna fucking keep going, but I decided.
01:59:16.000It just takes different things to get there.
01:59:18.000But the maintenance of this band that we're in requires a certain frequency, your fucking favorite word today, If we don't exist in that, there can be an imbalance and then it can build into this fight and then we'll fucking fight because we're in a fucking band.
02:02:42.000Like, as much as you guys get in fights, like, when you guys are nice to each other, like, I can see, like, when you guys interact, that you genuinely love each other.
02:04:02.000It would probably be equally awesome for both of you, but don't let it happen.
02:04:07.000Because what you guys have right now, you've hit this, whatever this thing is, you got this ball of focus and experience and musical knowledge and love and it's all coming together with your own specific creativity.
02:04:22.000And you guys are just, and you're putting out these songs that are like, whoa!
02:04:26.000Like, they're not, like, they keep getting better.
02:08:08.000Well, this is the way I look at all podcasts, honestly.
02:08:13.000It's like the idea of taking credit for the ocean when you accidentally stumbled upon an opening that turned something into a river.
02:08:23.000Everything that everybody extracts out of what they find on the internet is essentially like you found a path, you hit a button, you pull a lever, and a river opened.
02:08:33.000Whether it's a river of Honey Honey songs or Sturgill Simpson or Tom Segura or Joey Diaz, you're like some guy who's trying to take credit for the ocean because you've figured out if you hit the switch, it opens and the river just runs into the villages.
02:08:50.000And then everybody finds out about Duncan Trussell.
02:08:52.000And you just keep hitting these switches.
02:09:13.000It serves a pretty pertinent purpose for where we're at right now.
02:09:17.000It's pretty cool and it's really great to witness the effects of what you do at the switching station when we're out on the road and all these incredible, incredible fucking people that come out that just love you and really learn from The things that you say,
02:09:58.000Connection with nice people online is one of the most promising hints at what's possible for the future.
02:10:05.000There's this idea that because online is anonymous, and anonymous means you're always going to be mean, that's not the case.
02:10:12.000You're always going to get a certain amount of people that are shitheads.
02:10:15.000But those people, quite honestly, almost all of them, they're damaged and hurt people who got fucked over in life, and then they're trying to take out all that On all these other people.
02:10:28.000I mean, that's the vast majority of what's going on.
02:10:30.000But the amount of noise per capita is so high amongst cunts.
02:10:37.000Because most people don't post anything.
02:10:40.000Most people who think you guys are awesome, who've listened to this podcast, who've listened to your songs, they don't say a word about it.
02:12:09.000What do you think is more common for really nice people to come out of total shithole environments or for really nice families to have an asshole for a kid?
02:12:22.000I think that inspiration can hit someone at an incredible, like phenomenal rate when you just don't even expect it.
02:12:31.000I think you can have information just like slammed upside your head in like an instant and it could be the littlest thing.
02:13:14.000You know what your I don't know your social status is you can still have a bad experience, you know, and it can still shape you and What do we value?
02:13:22.000You know we I think in general we have good values things to be excited about we value kindness and generosity and things like that so it's rare and To see someone, and I don't know if I necessarily believe it, that someone who comes out of a series of good experiences just,
02:16:11.000If you're a young person and you don't know how ridiculous it is to have a shirt on that says Keep Austin Weird, it's the same font in every shirt and it pretends it's handwritten.