The Joe Rogan Experience - October 09, 2015


Joe Rogan Experience #706 - Brendan Schaub & Fight Companion ? (Part 1)


Summary

In this episode of No Laptop, Jamie and I talk about the benefits of not having a phone in your car, and why you should never live with someone who drives you to work every day. We also talk about what it's like living with a crazy stripper and why it's not as fun as it should be. We also discuss the benefits and drawbacks of having a car with no radio, and how to deal with driving while drunk. And of course, we talk about ice cream and other things that we like to do in general. We hope you enjoy this episode, and if you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE on Apple Podcasts and leave us a rating and review! If you like the podcast, please consider becoming a patron patron and leaving us a five star rating and a review on iTunes! Thanks to our sponsor, VaynerMedia! I hope you all have a great week, and we ll see you next Monday! XOXO, Kevin and I hope to see you soon! Love ya, Kevin xoxo - Kevin and Jaimie <3 - P.S. - Kevin & JAMIE - Kevin and Jamie XO - - J.V. - SONGS - PODCAST: & P.B. - P.M. - R.A. - SONG: P.O. & S.E. - A.J. - D.D. - M. ( ) - BONUS EPISODE: - MOSCOTTERROSO ( ) - S.C. (featuring: ) (feat. R. ( ) ( ) & JAYNN ( ) AND JAYN ( ) and JAYE ( ) is BACK AND S. (?) - SANDY ( ) P. B. ( ) - MELT ( ) . (VYNN ( AND P. CASTLE ( ) BECAUSE HE'S BACK AND RYAN ( ) // S. AVAILABLE ( ) , P. M. ( ), P. S. AND POTTERY ( , ) AND SORCH ( ) :D) - SORRY, S. TAYLOR ( ) LOSER ( ) CHEESE ( ) )


Transcript

00:00:01.000 When I'm driving around that Corvette, the Corvette doesn't have a radio.
00:00:03.000 It's one of the best things I've ever done.
00:00:04.000 Keep it old school?
00:00:05.000 Yeah, you know what?
00:00:06.000 Having no radio, when you drive around with no radio, Three, two, one, live!
00:00:12.000 Boom!
00:00:13.000 When I was young and I used to deliver newspapers, my car didn't have a radio.
00:00:19.000 And I used to come up with some of my best shit for stand-up comedy material.
00:00:23.000 With no radio, I'd just drive it around doing other things because I had to fold newspapers up and throw them out the window.
00:00:28.000 I bet, man.
00:00:28.000 And when you have no radio, you're forced to think.
00:00:31.000 And when you're forced to think, you think about shit.
00:00:32.000 When you're forced to think about shit, you go, hmm.
00:00:35.000 We're constantly distracted, man.
00:00:35.000 It's like...
00:00:37.000 We want to look at our phone all the time.
00:00:39.000 We want to...
00:00:39.000 See this podcast today, ladies and gentlemen?
00:00:41.000 No laptop.
00:00:43.000 I'm trying the new thing, Jamie.
00:00:45.000 Nice.
00:00:45.000 No laptop.
00:00:46.000 I'm trying...
00:00:47.000 And then if...
00:00:48.000 I got Jamie here.
00:00:48.000 If I need to Google some shit...
00:00:50.000 Boom.
00:00:51.000 That's what he's here for.
00:00:52.000 I probably should have tweeted.
00:00:53.000 It's about to start here.
00:00:54.000 I'll tweet it right now.
00:00:55.000 That might help.
00:00:55.000 That might help a little bit.
00:00:57.000 But, there you are.
00:00:58.000 Yeah, here I am, distracted.
00:00:59.000 Distracted.
00:01:00.000 Distracted.
00:01:01.000 It's important, man.
00:01:02.000 I mean, in the car, you spend so much time in the car and you listen to music, it just took past time.
00:01:07.000 Exactly.
00:01:07.000 I'm with you, man.
00:01:09.000 Well, one thing that's good, though, is podcasts and books on tape.
00:01:13.000 I do really enjoy doing that.
00:01:16.000 So I think that having the option is probably better, but the Corvette doesn't have a radio.
00:01:23.000 I like not having a radio.
00:01:25.000 I like sometimes just driving around, just...
00:01:28.000 Being alone with the thoughts, hearing the rumble of the engine, you know?
00:01:31.000 If I had that engine, yes.
00:01:33.000 I agree.
00:01:34.000 Well, your engine is pretty fucking sweet sounding, too.
00:01:36.000 Yeah, that's dope, but it's not that Corvette thing sounds so dope.
00:01:39.000 Well, it's a different kind of thing, but you wouldn't want to live with that every day, either.
00:01:42.000 You'd get annoyed.
00:01:43.000 Correct.
00:01:44.000 You'd be like, all right, you're fucking loud.
00:01:46.000 It'd be like living with a crazy, coked-up stripper every day.
00:01:49.000 I was just going to say that.
00:01:50.000 It's like dating a stripper, man.
00:01:52.000 It seems fun.
00:01:53.000 Every now and then, it gets real...
00:01:55.000 But not just living with her, but, like, she would have to drive you to work.
00:01:59.000 And everyone sees you.
00:02:00.000 Look at me.
00:02:02.000 And she's got tattoos on her neck, and she's loud, and she smells like cum.
00:02:08.000 I was like, oh, this is fun on Saturday in Vegas.
00:02:13.000 It's exhausting.
00:02:14.000 Yeah, like, listen, lady, I'm almost 30 years old.
00:02:14.000 It's exhausting.
00:02:16.000 I've got to get my life in order.
00:02:17.000 You've got to get out of my fucking life.
00:02:18.000 I'm at Starbucks, bitch.
00:02:19.000 I need you to pipe down.
00:02:22.000 That's what happens when you're young.
00:02:24.000 Like, those things are okay.
00:02:25.000 But as you get older, you realize, like, this is not fun.
00:02:29.000 This is just a lot happening.
00:02:31.000 So I think it's fun when I'm drunk.
00:02:33.000 You think?
00:02:34.000 Well, I think it's good for, like, once or twice a week.
00:02:39.000 It depends on the girl.
00:02:40.000 I thought we were talking about cars.
00:02:41.000 For the girl, it depends on the guy.
00:02:43.000 We are talking about cars.
00:02:44.000 We're talking about all things.
00:02:46.000 All things.
00:02:46.000 You don't want to watch an action movie every fucking day.
00:02:49.000 Hell no.
00:02:50.000 You don't want to watch explosions and fucking missiles.
00:02:53.000 You want to watch like Step Brothers.
00:02:55.000 Yeah, man.
00:02:55.000 You want to watch something fun.
00:02:56.000 Mix it up.
00:02:56.000 Mix it up.
00:02:57.000 Listen, I love ice cream, but I want vanilla every day.
00:02:59.000 That's right.
00:03:00.000 Mixing it up is big.
00:03:02.000 And that's with people with everything, right?
00:03:05.000 Everything, man.
00:03:06.000 We were talking about it off the air.
00:03:07.000 People get too comfortable.
00:03:09.000 Mm-hmm.
00:03:09.000 They do.
00:03:09.000 I'm never comfortable.
00:03:10.000 You know one of the things that's been freaking me out lately?
00:03:12.000 Not freaking me out, but I've been wondering on it.
00:03:16.000 On my message board, sometimes I'll have a guest.
00:03:19.000 And then I'll read after the podcast that it's almost like half and half sometimes.
00:03:26.000 I had this guy Milo Yiannopoulos on the other day.
00:03:31.000 Hilarious guy.
00:03:32.000 Gay guy.
00:03:33.000 He's a blogger.
00:03:35.000 Really funny blogger.
00:03:36.000 Lives in England and he was over here from London.
00:03:39.000 And some people loved the podcast.
00:03:42.000 Some people fucking hated it.
00:03:43.000 Worst podcast ever.
00:03:44.000 This was shit.
00:03:45.000 Oh my god, this was hilarious.
00:03:47.000 I love that guy.
00:03:47.000 He's so entertaining.
00:03:48.000 I want to drown him in a toilet bowl.
00:03:50.000 It's like, you can't...
00:03:52.000 That's what you want though?
00:03:53.000 Yeah, kind of.
00:03:54.000 Right?
00:03:54.000 That's kind of what you want.
00:03:56.000 As long as they're talking about it, you're good.
00:03:58.000 You cannot make every...
00:03:59.000 It's not possible to make everyone happy.
00:04:02.000 The only person who ever made everyone happy...
00:04:05.000 Was Bill Cosby.
00:04:06.000 He was the only guy.
00:04:08.000 I'm not joking.
00:04:10.000 He was the only guy.
00:04:11.000 No, he didn't.
00:04:11.000 You're right, he didn't.
00:04:12.000 But he was the only guy that for a long time, you never heard a goddamn bad thing about him.
00:04:18.000 Nah, those jello commercials piss me off, man.
00:04:22.000 In that bullshit sweater all the time.
00:04:26.000 Blacken up!
00:04:27.000 He was so good as a comic and so good as the host of his show and the Cosby show was so well done that literally no one spoke ill of him.
00:04:37.000 And all the while he's drugging chicks and raping them.
00:04:41.000 Raping them.
00:04:43.000 But he might be the only guy.
00:04:45.000 There's like a few, like Anthony Hopkins.
00:04:47.000 You know, there's a few actors.
00:04:49.000 But no one knows him, you know what I'm saying?
00:04:51.000 Knows him, knows him.
00:04:52.000 Yeah, I feel like we know Bill Cosby, or we thought we did.
00:04:54.000 We thought we did.
00:04:55.000 I feel like Jay Leno's one of those guys.
00:04:57.000 In what way?
00:04:58.000 Most people love Jay Leno.
00:05:00.000 Oh, no.
00:05:00.000 You don't hear a bad thing about Jay Leno.
00:05:01.000 Really?
00:05:02.000 Oh, that's so not true.
00:05:03.000 Am I way off on this?
00:05:04.000 Oh, yeah, you're so off.
00:05:05.000 What?
00:05:06.000 Jay Leno?
00:05:07.000 First of all, I love Jay Leno.
00:05:08.000 Well, Dave Letterman might hate him.
00:05:09.000 Not just Dave Letterman, but there was a bunch of fans of Conan O'Brien.
00:05:13.000 There was a whole situation where Conan took over The Tonight Show, and then remember Jay Leno had a show before him, and then it became this crazy thing where The Tonight Show wasn't doing so well.
00:05:22.000 Well, this is like Cosby Rapin' Bitches.
00:05:25.000 Before that, before that, before we knew that...
00:05:28.000 People still didn't like him, man.
00:05:29.000 Really?
00:05:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:05:30.000 Maybe it was my house.
00:05:31.000 The Shobbs love Jay Leno.
00:05:33.000 Yeah.
00:05:33.000 My household loved him.
00:05:34.000 What state was this again?
00:05:36.000 Denver.
00:05:36.000 Yeah, Denver, Colorado.
00:05:37.000 That sounds about right.
00:05:38.000 We love us with Jay Leno.
00:05:39.000 Especially pre-weed.
00:05:40.000 Yeah, man.
00:05:41.000 Pre-weed, being legal, Denver, Colorado.
00:05:43.000 We thought he was hilarious.
00:05:43.000 That was like living on a farm with really good electricity.
00:05:46.000 That's...
00:05:49.000 He's feeding on a ranch somewhere.
00:05:50.000 Some people that had a satellite dish.
00:05:53.000 Well, I think there was a lot of people from the Howard Stern group.
00:05:58.000 Like, for stand-up comics, Jay Leno, at one point in time, was, like, one of the top comics in the country.
00:06:03.000 For sure.
00:06:04.000 Like, real edgy.
00:06:05.000 Yeah.
00:06:05.000 Real edgy.
00:06:05.000 When he was young, he would go on David Letterman, be, like, this, like, super edgy guy.
00:06:09.000 And then for some comics, they felt like when he started hosting The Tonight Show, he kind of became more middle America and became more...
00:06:16.000 But he did it.
00:06:17.000 It's like...
00:06:17.000 It was a calculated move on his part.
00:06:19.000 Smart move, really?
00:06:20.000 It was a smart move financially.
00:06:22.000 He's more corporate, you're saying?
00:06:23.000 Yes.
00:06:24.000 Oh, 100% corporate.
00:06:26.000 100% corporate.
00:06:27.000 When you say sold out, I don't know, because I think people who like what he's doing still think what he's doing is great.
00:06:32.000 He just found a broader market that maybe might not appeal to younger, more hardcore people.
00:06:38.000 The way a real sharp guy like Letterman or maybe Conan.
00:06:41.000 Conan has some of the best writers in all of Late Night.
00:06:44.000 I love Conan.
00:06:45.000 Yeah, especially when he was on the late night show in New York.
00:06:48.000 My buddy used to work for him.
00:06:50.000 I got to see one of their very first shows.
00:06:53.000 You know how we're having this banter back and forth?
00:06:56.000 Because we're just talking.
00:06:57.000 We're two friends, just shooting this shit.
00:06:59.000 When it would appear that they were doing that, but behind them there was placards that had every word they were supposed to say.
00:07:05.000 So their conversations were fake.
00:07:08.000 What?
00:07:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:09.000 They had a fake conversation.
00:07:11.000 So, I went to the zoo yesterday.
00:07:14.000 So, someone's holding up the zoo.
00:07:16.000 Yep, yep.
00:07:17.000 Right behind them.
00:07:18.000 Everything was rehearsed and everything was pre-planned.
00:07:21.000 And eventually, he got away from that.
00:07:23.000 And I think in the beginning, they were nervous because he was a writer.
00:07:26.000 And so, he really didn't have a lot of performance experience.
00:07:30.000 Because he wrote for Saturday Night Live and Simpsons, right?
00:07:33.000 Is that correct?
00:07:33.000 I believe so.
00:07:34.000 I don't know, but I know.
00:07:35.000 He was a super respected writer and a really funny guy.
00:07:39.000 And the thought was that he was the guy that was always really funny in the room.
00:07:43.000 Like when he would meet with executives and writers, he was like the funny guy.
00:07:46.000 A really strong, intelligent, funny guy.
00:07:49.000 And they're like, this guy should be a host of a fucking show.
00:07:51.000 And then they decided to, you know, build it up and make it work.
00:07:54.000 But in the beginning, they literally, it's probably micromanagement on the network side.
00:07:59.000 They were probably just fucking with his show too much.
00:08:01.000 They didn't just allow it to be what it is.
00:08:04.000 Yeah, sure.
00:08:05.000 They're taking a big chance having them there.
00:08:07.000 So it was weird that their, I don't remember what my original point was, but their conversation, oh, this is what it was.
00:08:12.000 That their conversation was written out.
00:08:14.000 So it was like the writers, like really sharp dudes that were trying to...
00:08:17.000 And then they came out with all these different like characters and reoccurring themes and everything that they would use on the show.
00:08:23.000 And it became like a real cohesive thing.
00:08:25.000 And then when he went to the Tonight Show, they changed the show.
00:08:30.000 Like all of a sudden he was doing like the Tonight Show.
00:08:33.000 You know, it's like the whole thing was different, the feel was different.
00:08:36.000 You gotta do what got you to the dance.
00:08:38.000 Not only that, when they did it, Jay Leno was number one.
00:08:41.000 Like when they had Jay Leno step out and they put Conan O'Brien in, I think they probably, you know, they have these weird things where they base it on how old people are.
00:08:51.000 Like, if you're old as fuck, they don't want you.
00:08:53.000 Because old people don't spend any money.
00:08:55.000 They want those 18, 34-year-old men who are single.
00:08:58.000 That's the demographic, yeah.
00:08:59.000 That's the real money.
00:09:00.000 The real money is in young dudes who spend money on stupid shit.
00:09:04.000 And they're probably easily influenced by commercials.
00:09:06.000 So this is fucking shit.
00:09:08.000 I know I am.
00:09:10.000 I see this KFC commercial.
00:09:12.000 They fucking go.
00:09:13.000 But there was also this thing where the Howard Stern Show was pissed at him.
00:09:16.000 And Howard Stern was pissed at Jay Leno because someone, whoever it was, on the Jay Leno writing staff most likely, was ripping off ideas from the Howard Stern Show.
00:09:28.000 I've never examined this.
00:09:28.000 Allegedly.
00:09:30.000 But I remember Howard being really pissed about it, and he's not unreasonable when it comes to stuff like that.
00:09:35.000 It doesn't make sense.
00:09:36.000 Howard's a powerful dude, too.
00:09:37.000 Yeah, I think also, like, sometimes writers do shit like that, man.
00:09:41.000 That's happened, like, a gang of times with stand-ups.
00:09:45.000 Writers will come to see you perform, and then they turn your bits into a part in a sitcom.
00:09:50.000 That happened to Kevin James.
00:09:51.000 I witnessed it.
00:09:52.000 I saw the whole thing.
00:09:53.000 It's happened to several guys on a bunch of different shows.
00:09:58.000 Well, you know what it is.
00:09:58.000 Bummer.
00:09:59.000 Say if you're a writer.
00:10:00.000 You're a young kid from fucking Cleveland.
00:10:02.000 And you get a gig writing for Chris D'Elia's show, right?
00:10:07.000 You gotta be funny.
00:10:08.000 Yeah, you got some fucking demands.
00:10:08.000 You got some demands.
00:10:10.000 And some of these guys will come to comedy clubs and they'll just pilfer ideas.
00:10:15.000 That's a bad idea, man.
00:10:16.000 It means you're shitty at your job.
00:10:17.000 It does, but it also means you're trying to get by.
00:10:20.000 Fake it till you make it, Brendan Schaub.
00:10:22.000 You can't fake it off other people's ideas, though.
00:10:25.000 Because eventually you're going to get caught up.
00:10:26.000 I agree.
00:10:28.000 There's no longevity in that.
00:10:29.000 They think they're not going to get caught up.
00:10:31.000 They think they're just going to get away with it.
00:10:31.000 True.
00:10:33.000 Just do it now, and then I'm really good.
00:10:35.000 They just don't know it.
00:10:36.000 Unless Joe Rogan sees that shit.
00:10:38.000 Or anybody now.
00:10:40.000 You know?
00:10:41.000 When we put out that YouTube video of the Mencia thing, that was a long-ass time ago.
00:10:45.000 Dude, I just saw that a couple months ago.
00:10:47.000 That shit was awkward as fuck.
00:10:49.000 So awkward.
00:10:51.000 Why'd you get on stage like that?
00:10:54.000 Well, I was on stage before him.
00:10:55.000 I know.
00:10:56.000 Do you know the whole story?
00:10:57.000 And then he's coming up, right?
00:10:58.000 He actually wasn't supposed to be on.
00:10:59.000 He took the microphone away from the guy who was next.
00:11:02.000 The guy who was next is this guy, Kurt Fox.
00:11:04.000 He just de-bo-ed him.
00:11:05.000 He was like, give me the mic.
00:11:06.000 Yeah, because I brought him up as a writer, because Kurt used to write for Carlos, and I said he was a writer for Carlos Menstelia.
00:11:14.000 And so that was it.
00:11:15.000 That was it.
00:11:16.000 It was a straw that broke the camel's back.
00:11:17.000 But then you jump up there, and then he goes, I have the mic.
00:11:21.000 What you don't realize, dummies, I have the mic.
00:11:23.000 And you're like, give me a fucking mic.
00:11:24.000 And then you get the mic.
00:11:25.000 And then shut that shit down.
00:11:28.000 Is he still alive?
00:11:29.000 Yes, he's alive.
00:11:30.000 Is he still alive?
00:11:31.000 Did you have him killed?
00:11:32.000 No, he's alive.
00:11:33.000 Did the UFC mafia get to him?
00:11:35.000 Is he buried somewhere?
00:11:36.000 Is he dead?
00:11:37.000 He's out there doing stand-up still.
00:11:39.000 Is he?
00:11:40.000 Yeah.
00:11:40.000 Yeah.
00:11:41.000 I hope he's doing well.
00:11:42.000 I hope he's doing his own shit.
00:11:44.000 You know?
00:11:45.000 The problem with those guys are...
00:11:47.000 One of the big problems is when you steal, you don't learn what it takes to come up with bits.
00:11:54.000 Like, I got a couple bits right now.
00:11:55.000 They might die.
00:11:57.000 I'm looking at them.
00:11:58.000 They're like bad dogs.
00:12:00.000 Dogs with broken hips.
00:12:01.000 I'm like, I don't have to put this motherfucker down.
00:12:03.000 This is a horse with a broken leg.
00:12:04.000 See ya.
00:12:05.000 I'm trying to think if I should fix the bit or if I should just tank it.
00:12:07.000 That's the battle though, right?
00:12:09.000 That's what makes you great.
00:12:10.000 It's the only way to make a bit good.
00:12:14.000 You gotta bring that motherfucker out to the light of day and you gotta tweak it and roll it.
00:12:18.000 And there's some times that bits just don't seem like they're gonna make it.
00:12:21.000 And sometimes you gotta let them go.
00:12:23.000 But that's why you're making a living as a comedian and then Carlos Mancina's like, fuck man.
00:12:27.000 Well, he's still making a living.
00:12:28.000 He still probably does really well.
00:12:30.000 You think?
00:12:31.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:12:31.000 I mean, he's a name, you know?
00:12:33.000 He can go to weird spots and do comedy clubs and still probably do pretty good.
00:12:37.000 But the reality is...
00:12:40.000 When you do that, when you steal, you usually steal because there's a different mindset for a plagiarist than there is for someone who's creative.
00:12:50.000 And I think the mindset of someone who's a plagiarist is the mindset of it's all about me.
00:12:55.000 It's about me getting this stuff and then I'm going to do it and I'm going to be a bad motherfucker.
00:12:59.000 It's about me.
00:13:01.000 Whereas I think the mindset of someone who's more creative is all about whatever the idea is.
00:13:06.000 And you're just sort of like a train to get the idea to the people.
00:13:12.000 Well, I think if you're creative, too, you see an idea and you're like, well, you view it from a different filter.
00:13:17.000 Does that make sense?
00:13:18.000 Maybe.
00:13:19.000 People can see an idea and view it from a different filter.
00:13:22.000 I'm like, I think this is the funny way.
00:13:24.000 Like, this angle might be funnier.
00:13:26.000 Sometimes.
00:13:27.000 Yeah.
00:13:27.000 Sometimes.
00:13:28.000 I mean, it really depends entirely on the idea, but I think the big factor, one of the big factors is ego.
00:13:34.000 And if you have a big ego, it can help you and it can fuck you.
00:13:39.000 It can do both.
00:13:40.000 It can help you and it gives you like the courage and the belief in yourself, even if it doesn't make any sense, to try something that's very difficult to do.
00:13:48.000 That's huge, man.
00:13:49.000 It is big.
00:13:49.000 That's huge.
00:13:50.000 Our first live show, the first eight, nine minutes was me by myself.
00:13:54.000 What?
00:13:55.000 Why?
00:13:56.000 That was the bit.
00:13:57.000 What?
00:13:58.000 You started it off?
00:13:59.000 Yeah.
00:14:00.000 Whose idea was this?
00:14:01.000 Both of ours.
00:14:02.000 Why would you want to do that?
00:14:03.000 It went awesome, man.
00:14:05.000 You're talking about egos.
00:14:08.000 You're talking about egos.
00:14:09.000 It went great, man.
00:14:11.000 They came there to see you.
00:14:11.000 Well, people loved you.
00:14:13.000 Yeah, it went great, man.
00:14:14.000 So you did stand-up.
00:14:15.000 Yeah, basically told a story.
00:14:17.000 Yeah, and had this whole bit, and people were cracking up.
00:14:17.000 Whoa.
00:14:19.000 Dude, you've done stand-up.
00:14:20.000 Your first stand-up was in front of a live audience that was a podcast.
00:14:24.000 Yeah.
00:14:25.000 That's crazy.
00:14:25.000 Yeah.
00:14:26.000 That's crazy.
00:14:27.000 It was awesome, man.
00:14:28.000 Your first stand-up ever is on the internet.
00:14:30.000 Yeah.
00:14:30.000 Whoa.
00:14:31.000 That's nuts.
00:14:32.000 Well, we're not releasing it, though.
00:14:34.000 Oh, you haven't released it?
00:14:35.000 People want to release it.
00:14:36.000 I'll release my stand-up portion, but we want to make it special for the live fans.
00:14:36.000 What?
00:14:42.000 People hate that.
00:14:44.000 Why would you want to do that?
00:14:45.000 It already was special for them.
00:14:48.000 They probably want to hear it again.
00:14:49.000 And then a bunch of other people want to hear it too.
00:14:51.000 But yeah, so come to the other live shows.
00:14:53.000 We're doing all these tours.
00:14:54.000 No, no, no.
00:14:54.000 You think we should release it live?
00:14:56.000 Is this your idea or Callan's idea?
00:14:58.000 Well, probably mine.
00:14:59.000 Yeah.
00:15:01.000 I was thinking it was too retarded to be yours.
00:15:06.000 I thought it was Callens.
00:15:08.000 This is my only thing we don't talk about right now on here.
00:15:11.000 Your idea of Callens.
00:15:13.000 I honestly think it's special for those people because they're live.
00:15:16.000 But they're there live.
00:15:17.000 It's already special for them.
00:15:18.000 They probably want to hear it again.
00:15:20.000 There's probably a lot of people that were there that said, that was a really good time.
00:15:23.000 I would love to hear that again on my commute.
00:15:25.000 And then there's other people that weren't there.
00:15:28.000 Well, you're going to punish them because they couldn't get to Brea?
00:15:30.000 I'm not going to punish them.
00:15:30.000 That's what you're doing.
00:15:31.000 What?
00:15:32.000 That's what you're doing, man.
00:15:33.000 You got a recording.
00:15:35.000 Release the house.
00:15:36.000 Unless you're thinking about doing...
00:15:38.000 People are going to jump all over this now.
00:15:40.000 I was getting so much heat.
00:15:42.000 Yeah, you should release it 100%.
00:15:44.000 Well, fuck.
00:15:45.000 Now I have to, don't I? Well, you just should.
00:15:48.000 It's good.
00:15:48.000 If it's good, you should release it.
00:15:50.000 Then you should definitely release it.
00:15:50.000 It's great.
00:15:52.000 Why not release it?
00:15:53.000 Because we're doing a nationwide tour.
00:15:54.000 Good.
00:15:55.000 Keep doing that.
00:15:55.000 I feel like it would bring more people to the actual live events.
00:15:58.000 No, they're going to come anyway.
00:15:59.000 Don't worry about it.
00:16:00.000 God, what are you worried about?
00:16:00.000 Yes.
00:16:01.000 There's 350 million people out there.
00:16:04.000 What you need to do is clone yourselves and have more shows and do them in more spots.
00:16:09.000 What you don't need to worry about is people not showing up at a spot because they heard a live, unless the live podcast sucks.
00:16:15.000 If you come up with a dud, you do have that advantage.
00:16:18.000 But if you come up with a dud, you can tank it.
00:16:20.000 Like, for whatever reason, it just goes awful.
00:16:23.000 Somebody just bombs.
00:16:25.000 If you have an excuse.
00:16:27.000 No, if somebody has to roofie you or something before the show.
00:16:30.000 They could.
00:16:31.000 You never know.
00:16:32.000 Just start talking.
00:16:33.000 I'll tell you what, man.
00:16:34.000 We did live questions and usually we filter them.
00:16:37.000 Some girl, you know, I've never been on stage really.
00:16:39.000 It's bright as fuck.
00:16:40.000 They give the mic to some girl.
00:16:41.000 She goes, uh, Schaub, do you remember to me?
00:16:44.000 Do you remember me?
00:16:45.000 I proposed to you four years ago at the UFC Expo and you said yes.
00:16:48.000 Where the fuck's my ring?
00:16:51.000 I'm trying to look.
00:16:52.000 I'm like, who the fuck is that?
00:16:53.000 Moving on.
00:16:54.000 Next question.
00:16:55.000 Next question.
00:16:56.000 Brandon, what do you think of?
00:16:57.000 And it's some Ronda Rousey question.
00:16:59.000 Next question.
00:17:00.000 Oh, no.
00:17:00.000 Brandon, how much would Reebok...
00:17:01.000 Next question.
00:17:03.000 Oh, yeah.
00:17:04.000 It was fun, though.
00:17:04.000 Mix it up, man.
00:17:05.000 I get that, though.
00:17:07.000 So you're involved in a lot of controversial shit.
00:17:10.000 Oh, you mean telling the truth?
00:17:10.000 Not really.
00:17:12.000 Oh, you mean being honest?
00:17:14.000 Yes.
00:17:15.000 You mean being honest?
00:17:16.000 Don't you think that's controversial?
00:17:18.000 I guess it is for an athlete.
00:17:20.000 I guess I'm supposed to be this fucking cookie cutter and get in line and it's just...
00:17:23.000 I don't know.
00:17:25.000 Well, you just have terrible PR skills and it turns out it works.
00:17:29.000 Depends how you look at it.
00:17:31.000 What is PR, though?
00:17:32.000 It's public relations.
00:17:33.000 See, that's where they're wrong.
00:17:34.000 Because your public relations skills are awesome.
00:17:36.000 Because everybody knows you don't really have a very good filter.
00:17:39.000 No filter.
00:17:40.000 Your filter's like a bunch of string in front of a river trying to keep the salmon out.
00:17:44.000 It's like, you need more than that.
00:17:46.000 They're going to get through that.
00:17:47.000 They go over rocks.
00:17:48.000 You know what I mean?
00:17:49.000 You've got to have more than that, man.
00:17:51.000 It's like a moment of pause where they get to the string and they go, uh, what am I doing here?
00:17:55.000 Dude, I don't know what to do.
00:17:57.000 Someone asked me a question.
00:17:58.000 I'm like...
00:17:58.000 Be yourself.
00:17:59.000 Don't worry about it.
00:18:00.000 Yeah, I try.
00:18:00.000 You're a good guy.
00:18:02.000 If you're a good guy, just be yourself.
00:18:03.000 If you're a good guy and you're telling the truth, I don't see why you wouldn't just keep doing it.
00:18:08.000 Like, I was training the other day and this guy came up to me and goes, Man, dude, I love what you do.
00:18:13.000 You give me motivation to do some outside fighting, blah, blah, blah.
00:18:16.000 But.
00:18:17.000 He goes, but.
00:18:18.000 But.
00:18:19.000 He goes, I wish I could talk about some stuff.
00:18:22.000 Do it, man.
00:18:23.000 Oh, he wishes he could do what you do.
00:18:25.000 Yeah, he goes, I wish.
00:18:26.000 That's not really the same kind of butt.
00:18:27.000 Yeah, he just goes, I wish.
00:18:28.000 He goes, I wish, I just can't.
00:18:30.000 Some people, well, he might not be able to now.
00:18:33.000 And the road for him to get to the point where he can is long.
00:18:38.000 But people always think that they are who they used to be.
00:18:43.000 Does that make sense?
00:18:44.000 It's like people look at themselves, like say if you were a loser in high school and you fucked, there's a lot of people that are haunted by high school for like their whole life.
00:18:52.000 Or certain events, yeah.
00:18:53.000 Yeah, certain events.
00:18:54.000 That's why being bullied is so dangerous to some people.
00:18:58.000 Because if they get really fucked with by people and tormented by people in high school, That shit can carry over to the rest of their life.
00:19:06.000 It devastates their confidence.
00:19:07.000 So in their early developmental period, they have this really poor self-image.
00:19:11.000 And having a poor self-image is fucking super hard to get over.
00:19:14.000 It's really hard.
00:19:15.000 Agreed, 100%.
00:19:16.000 Well, you know, I've talked about it before on this.
00:19:18.000 I have basically body dysmorphia, which is fucking crazy, man, because I'm in great shape.
00:19:23.000 And it happened in college.
00:19:24.000 I had this girlfriend for a long time, and I had this huge event.
00:19:27.000 I was getting ready to try out for all these NFL teams.
00:19:30.000 The night before, I was going through all my mental stuff on how I was going to do, and I put on exactly what I was going to wear.
00:19:36.000 And it's the, you know, you don't know how to act and eat like a pro, but I did it for, fuck, four months.
00:19:43.000 And I was, like, feeling good.
00:19:44.000 I'm like, damn, dude, I look like an NFL guy right now.
00:19:46.000 This is how an NFL guy looks.
00:19:48.000 And my girlfriend, I go, what do you think?
00:19:50.000 How do I look?
00:19:50.000 And she goes, I look a little soft.
00:19:52.000 You look soft.
00:19:54.000 You look kind of chubby.
00:19:55.000 Whoa.
00:19:56.000 One girl got you.
00:19:57.000 Got me.
00:19:59.000 I was literally like...
00:20:01.000 Ever since then, man.
00:20:02.000 Wow.
00:20:03.000 Gave me a fucking...
00:20:04.000 Did she date some bodybuilders before you or something?
00:20:07.000 I don't know.
00:20:09.000 Some dudes who cut weight and eat oats?
00:20:10.000 I don't know.
00:20:10.000 I think she was just trying to be honest.
00:20:12.000 Maybe she didn't have a filter.
00:20:13.000 I don't know, man.
00:20:15.000 Maybe that bitch didn't have a filter.
00:20:17.000 Did you look then?
00:20:18.000 Kicked her to the curb.
00:20:19.000 Did you immediately?
00:20:20.000 For calling you soft?
00:20:21.000 Shortly after that.
00:20:22.000 Very shortly after that.
00:20:22.000 But you were like, what?
00:20:24.000 Beat it, nerd.
00:20:24.000 But ever since then, I was like, damn.
00:20:25.000 And then it fucked in my confidence the next day.
00:20:29.000 I was like, ah, shit.
00:20:31.000 I can do that.
00:20:32.000 100% man.
00:20:33.000 Yeah, if you let it in.
00:20:34.000 I think it's like snake venom.
00:20:36.000 Like, you get a little bite every now and then, I think it's good for you.
00:20:40.000 You gotta understand what's happening when someone's insulting you.
00:20:44.000 You gotta understand.
00:20:45.000 You know?
00:20:45.000 And sometimes they're just being honest with you.
00:20:47.000 True.
00:20:48.000 And there's a time for that.
00:20:49.000 But that was not the time for that.
00:20:51.000 That was...
00:20:54.000 Big tryouts, big games, big event the next day.
00:20:57.000 Biggest time of my life at the time was a huge event.
00:21:00.000 And she's telling you soft.
00:21:01.000 It's tough, man.
00:21:02.000 That's a mean bitch.
00:21:03.000 Did you guys have fights before this?
00:21:05.000 Was she mad about something else?
00:21:08.000 I mean, I'm sure I was a shitty boyfriend.
00:21:10.000 Did I have another girlfriend at the time?
00:21:11.000 Yeah, I did.
00:21:12.000 Okay, we'll figure it out.
00:21:13.000 I was a bad guy.
00:21:14.000 Well, I'm not a bad guy.
00:21:15.000 I'm in college.
00:21:16.000 We're not going to get married.
00:21:18.000 Young, dumb, and full of cum.
00:21:20.000 Yeah.
00:21:21.000 Yeah, man.
00:21:22.000 That's what it is, right?
00:21:23.000 That's why that expression exists.
00:21:25.000 Yeah, man.
00:21:25.000 When you say young, dumb, and full, you never heard young, dumb, and full of comics?
00:21:28.000 No.
00:21:29.000 Oh, my God.
00:21:29.000 That's an old one.
00:21:30.000 Really?
00:21:30.000 Have you?
00:21:31.000 Yeah, Jamie has.
00:21:32.000 That's old.
00:21:32.000 He's heard it from me a hundred times.
00:21:34.000 Yeah, there you go.
00:21:34.000 It's before Rogan, though?
00:21:36.000 No, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:36.000 It's not mine.
00:21:36.000 For sure.
00:21:37.000 Yeah, I think it was around when I was in high school.
00:21:37.000 Wow.
00:21:40.000 Maybe it's some old school shit.
00:21:42.000 I think it's some old school shit.
00:21:43.000 But it's new school, too, because I've heard it from people recently.
00:21:46.000 If someone would have told me that in college or high school, I'm like, damn, that's aggressive, man.
00:21:50.000 Super aggressive.
00:21:51.000 But correct.
00:21:52.000 Jesus Christ.
00:21:53.000 I know, right?
00:21:54.000 It's like you're trying to live here.
00:21:55.000 Goddamn overflow.
00:21:56.000 Yeah.
00:21:57.000 But when you say that, nobody goes, I don't even understand.
00:22:00.000 Everybody goes, yeah.
00:22:01.000 No, I get it.
00:22:01.000 Yeah, 100%.
00:22:03.000 That was me.
00:22:03.000 I was thinking about myself in high school the other day for whatever reason.
00:22:07.000 You know how sometimes you have this weird moment where you just think like, wow, what was it like to be...
00:22:14.000 Like if I had to go and do that again, what was it really like?
00:22:17.000 What are my memories of it?
00:22:18.000 And what was it really like?
00:22:19.000 Because my memories of it were all like...
00:22:22.000 Always nervous, fucking never confident, always weirded out.
00:22:26.000 Trying to get away from everybody.
00:22:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:22:28.000 I was weird.
00:22:30.000 You were that kid?
00:22:31.000 So weirded.
00:22:31.000 I was accepted, because I fit in like the way I looked fit in.
00:22:36.000 I looked like an athlete, but I didn't know anything about sports.
00:22:39.000 I didn't know no sports, and all I wanted to do was kickbox.
00:22:41.000 That's all I wanted to do.
00:22:42.000 All I wanted to do was taekwondo and kickbox.
00:22:44.000 That had been tough back then.
00:22:45.000 I was such a weirdo.
00:22:47.000 That's all I did all day.
00:22:49.000 I was always insecure.
00:22:50.000 Everything but that.
00:22:52.000 Like, when I did that, I was super confident.
00:22:54.000 Like, I knew I was really good at that.
00:22:56.000 So there was, like, one thing I couldn't wait to do and get the fuck away from people.
00:22:59.000 What about girls?
00:23:01.000 I had a couple girlfriends.
00:23:02.000 I was a good-looking guy.
00:23:02.000 I did all right.
00:23:04.000 Yeah.
00:23:04.000 It wasn't that hard, but I wasn't very good socially.
00:23:08.000 Not for sure.
00:23:09.000 Wasn't good at it.
00:23:11.000 I wasn't really good at that until I calmed down.
00:23:14.000 I don't think I was even that good socially when I started doing stand-up.
00:23:18.000 I think I got way better at it because I realized I need to.
00:23:22.000 But one of the things that I was thinking when I first started doing it was like, man, I wish I would just go back to competing because in competing I didn't need anybody's approval.
00:23:33.000 I kind of liked it if you didn't like me.
00:23:35.000 I kind of liked it if there's a bunch of people cheering against me.
00:23:38.000 I was like, just wait, wait to see what I do.
00:23:40.000 Yeah, just wait.
00:23:41.000 Yeah, it doesn't matter to me.
00:23:42.000 It's just going to give me some more motivation.
00:23:44.000 It's going to give me some more intensity.
00:23:46.000 But with comedy, everybody has to like you.
00:23:48.000 And then you realize, like, you're not that likable.
00:23:51.000 Yeah, but, like, sometimes, like, things we do, like things a person does, you do to be successful.
00:23:51.000 They have to, though.
00:23:57.000 But you're not thinking in terms of, like, being liked.
00:24:00.000 Like, I always wondered about, like, guys who are extreme, extreme winners.
00:24:00.000 Mm.
00:24:04.000 Guys like Lance Armstrong or guys like Michael Jordan.
00:24:07.000 And they get reputations of being not very good guys or very nice guys or maybe greedy.
00:24:14.000 Like, you always hear that about Jordan.
00:24:15.000 He doesn't...
00:24:16.000 Selfish.
00:24:16.000 Selfish.
00:24:17.000 Selfish.
00:24:18.000 Yeah, man.
00:24:19.000 And you gotta think...
00:24:21.000 Like, a guy like that is so focused on this one thing.
00:24:26.000 He's so focused on winning.
00:24:27.000 He's so focused on just beating everyone down, and it's all about him and him getting ahead.
00:24:33.000 You're so focused on that.
00:24:34.000 So you're not thinking about how other people are perceiving you, because you're like, fuck them, I'm coming in and dunk on their face.
00:24:38.000 Yeah, man.
00:24:39.000 Well, that's what greatness requires.
00:24:41.000 That's what I learned.
00:24:42.000 Through my journey of athletics, the best players I ever played with They weren't the friendliest.
00:24:47.000 The best fighters who I trained with, the best fighters that I ran with.
00:24:52.000 God, not the friendliest, man.
00:24:53.000 But George is.
00:24:55.000 St. Pierre?
00:24:56.000 St. Pierre is a super fucking friendly guy.
00:24:58.000 He's like one of those weird exceptions.
00:25:00.000 George is super friendly.
00:25:02.000 I wouldn't say George is the most out.
00:25:02.000 Super friendly.
00:25:04.000 There's always something.
00:25:05.000 George might be the exception.
00:25:07.000 George is a very cerebral fighter.
00:25:10.000 I wouldn't say George isn't the most outgoing guy, you know what I'm saying?
00:25:15.000 Like, George is kind of an introverted soul.
00:25:17.000 He's picked on as a kid and stuff like that.
00:25:19.000 He's different.
00:25:20.000 A lot of the super winners, they're just different, man.
00:25:24.000 And it's something, maybe they're born with that, or an event in their life happened or something like that, and they're just these ultra winners, and I could never relate to it, I gotta be honest.
00:25:35.000 I wonder if being like that, it's the only way you become an ultra winner if you just think about the winning only.
00:25:40.000 You can't be this like really social butterfly person that just goes around and makes friends with everybody.
00:25:46.000 You got to be some driven psycho that's getting up at 4.30 and running up hills.
00:25:50.000 And then you mix that with talent.
00:25:50.000 Yeah, man.
00:25:51.000 Now you got fucking the greatness.
00:25:54.000 That's where the greatness comes from, man.
00:25:54.000 Yeah.
00:25:55.000 Yeah.
00:25:56.000 You know, I had a crazy conversation with BJ Penn the other night.
00:25:59.000 I just got a text out of the blue from BJ. Called BJ up, and BJ and I were talking about all sorts of shit, and he was talking to this friend of his who got his black belt in four years.
00:26:12.000 You know, BJ got his black belt in three and a half years.
00:26:14.000 Yeah, which was crazy.
00:26:16.000 So the guy, you know, and BJ talking, and BJ goes, wow, that's amazing.
00:26:16.000 Crazy.
00:26:21.000 You must be really talented.
00:26:21.000 Congratulations.
00:26:22.000 And he goes, no.
00:26:24.000 He goes, I'm addicted.
00:26:26.000 He goes, I'm addicted to jiu-jitsu, just like you.
00:26:28.000 You were addicted too.
00:26:30.000 And BJ sat, but he goes, I never thought about it that way.
00:26:32.000 And then he goes, I realized, yeah, I was addicted.
00:26:35.000 That's why I got my black belt in three and a half years.
00:26:37.000 I was addicted.
00:26:38.000 We were laughing.
00:26:39.000 He was talking about how he's addicted to, like, Final Fantasy.
00:26:42.000 You ever play that game?
00:26:43.000 I have, in like eighth grade.
00:26:45.000 He plays that shit?
00:26:45.000 Yeah.
00:26:46.000 No, at one point in time, though, he got addicted to that game.
00:26:50.000 But again, that's how these crazy successful people are.
00:26:55.000 There is no one foot in, one foot out.
00:26:57.000 It's fucking all in, man, and nothing else matters.
00:27:01.000 Nothing else matters.
00:27:03.000 That might be my problem, Joe.
00:27:05.000 You're too nice.
00:27:07.000 But on occasion, like I watched that Crow Cop fight the other day.
00:27:10.000 You weren't very nice in that fight.
00:27:11.000 That was not nice.
00:27:13.000 You know...
00:27:14.000 You were super aggressive in that fight.
00:27:16.000 I was.
00:27:17.000 You know what's weird, man?
00:27:18.000 I watched the Alexander and DC fight, where it's back and forth.
00:27:24.000 And I used to get inspired by those, right?
00:27:27.000 I used to watch a great fight, and as soon as they ended, I'd hit the ground running.
00:27:33.000 I would just run.
00:27:33.000 I loved to run.
00:27:35.000 That's how I dealt with being nervous and what's next for me.
00:27:38.000 I'd just start fucking running.
00:27:40.000 Now when I see that stuff, I think first about their health.
00:27:45.000 I'm like, damn, I hope he's okay.
00:27:47.000 And I felt that change in me, and I'm like, well, that's not good.
00:27:51.000 Yeah, that's not good.
00:27:53.000 That's not good.
00:27:54.000 Don't get me wrong, I still appreciate a great fight.
00:27:56.000 I fucking love fighting.
00:27:57.000 I don't miss a fight.
00:27:59.000 I view it different now.
00:28:01.000 Instead of thinking, that was an amazing fight, I think, man, I hope they're okay.
00:28:05.000 Hopefully they're not too injured.
00:28:06.000 And what's next after this?
00:28:08.000 Even if you win the belt, alright man, what's after this?
00:28:11.000 Because I have friends who have won belts and they're not fucking killing it these days.
00:28:16.000 It seems like...
00:28:18.000 Like, it's one of those things where you just have to, you have to be able to put aside any thoughts of the damage that you're doing to yourself.
00:28:25.000 You gotta be able to just do it.
00:28:26.000 And now as soon as you start taking into consideration the damage, it becomes that extra factor.
00:28:32.000 It becomes that extra thing that you have to think about.
00:28:34.000 You know, that can fuck with, and also that thing that can fuck with greatness.
00:28:39.000 Like we were talking about, about greatness is like this obsession.
00:28:42.000 Plus talent, dedication, and drive.
00:28:45.000 But then you add the variable of fear of injury or playing conservative to avoid injury.
00:28:52.000 I agree.
00:28:53.000 I think I was obsessed with fighting.
00:28:57.000 And I think if you ask anyone who trained with me or one of my coaches, man, hardest worker in the room?
00:29:04.000 Shob.
00:29:05.000 By far, I was crazy.
00:29:07.000 But then when it came time to fight, You ever seen the old-school Robocop where he's about to attack someone?
00:29:07.000 Crazy.
00:29:14.000 It's like calculating and it's like fucking 70% gun here.
00:29:18.000 That's how my fucking mind works, man.
00:29:20.000 I don't know what to do.
00:29:21.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:29:21.000 Like my last fight, I'm sitting there and I'm like, I know here he throws this.
00:29:26.000 I know he's gonna kick.
00:29:27.000 So you're thinking too much.
00:29:29.000 Yeah, I'm thinking too much.
00:29:30.000 I'm too cerebral.
00:29:31.000 I'm thinking way too much.
00:29:32.000 Well, they're probably not like that.
00:29:34.000 They're going.
00:29:35.000 They're in the zone.
00:29:36.000 They're in the zone.
00:29:37.000 They're fighters.
00:29:38.000 They're going.
00:29:39.000 Yeah.
00:29:40.000 It's tough, man.
00:29:42.000 Well, it's one of the most difficult things, I think, for people to do is to get in that zone.
00:29:47.000 To figure out that place that you get to where you're just relying on all of your training and you're just there.
00:29:57.000 Instincts.
00:29:58.000 That happened to me once.
00:29:59.000 Once?
00:30:00.000 Gabriel Gonzaga.
00:30:01.000 Really?
00:30:02.000 Only once?
00:30:02.000 Only once.
00:30:03.000 I don't know why.
00:30:04.000 Could not tell you why.
00:30:05.000 Wow.
00:30:06.000 I remember that fight.
00:30:08.000 Just everything was slow motion.
00:30:09.000 I didn't hear the crowd.
00:30:10.000 Everything you threw, I already saw coming.
00:30:13.000 And it was just like this white noise.
00:30:16.000 That's the one time I've been in the zone.
00:30:17.000 Never got in the zone in football, really.
00:30:19.000 Maybe once.
00:30:20.000 But fighting, it's a freaking...
00:30:23.000 To get there, man, is unreal.
00:30:25.000 Well, it's different.
00:30:26.000 It's like if you get in the zone with playing ping pong, the loss of getting in the zone, it's not dangerous to your health.
00:30:34.000 Yeah.
00:30:35.000 The thing about fighting that makes it different than anything else, even more difficult than jujitsu, Because jiu-jitsu is nerve-wracking.
00:30:42.000 And when you watch two guys going at it and they're trying to kill each other, they're nervous as fuck before that, you know?
00:30:48.000 But they're not as worried about injury.
00:30:51.000 It's a different kind of injury.
00:30:52.000 Because the jiu-jitsu injury, you might get choked, you might get your arm snapped.
00:30:56.000 It is possible you get hurt.
00:30:57.000 I mean, you could always...
00:30:58.000 Embarrassed, really.
00:30:59.000 Yeah, or you could land wrong and fuck your knee up or fuck your neck up.
00:31:02.000 It does happen.
00:31:03.000 It is possible.
00:31:04.000 But MMA or kickboxing, anything like Muay Thai.
00:31:08.000 I watched this Muay Thai knockout the other day.
00:31:10.000 Oh my God, it was fucking insane.
00:31:13.000 Some guy from Thailand, I wish I knew who it was because it was an animated gif that someone sent me.
00:31:18.000 And this dude hits this guy with the...
00:31:20.000 He's got him in the Thai clinch.
00:31:21.000 He hits these guys with his fucking ridiculous knees to the body, like three...
00:31:26.000 Boom, boom, boom.
00:31:28.000 And they go into the ropes, and the dude hits him with a flying knee that is just the most perfectly timed flying knee.
00:31:35.000 Snaps his head back, his body goes limp, and he just slides against the ropes and down to the ground.
00:31:40.000 But it was just the poetry of it and the explosiveness of it that just boom, boom, boom.
00:31:46.000 And he flies through the air.
00:31:48.000 Hits him in the flying knee.
00:31:48.000 Bang!
00:31:49.000 Like, the fact that that could happen to you...
00:31:54.000 When you get in there with a guy who's training, you're just hoping he doesn't know how to do that.
00:32:01.000 Yeah, well, especially this day and age.
00:32:02.000 I was watching the last UFC. I was watching the last UFC. I forget his first name.
00:32:08.000 The Rodriguez fella?
00:32:09.000 Yair.
00:32:10.000 Yair and the Northcutt.
00:32:11.000 I watched Northcutt.
00:32:13.000 I watched Yair Rodriguez.
00:32:14.000 And I'm like, what the fuck?
00:32:17.000 Well, you know what the difference is?
00:32:18.000 What the fuck is going on?
00:32:19.000 Taekwondo.
00:32:21.000 Taekwondo plus, but Northcutt's been- Those guys have all the other shit, too.
00:32:24.000 Northcutt was this small.
00:32:25.000 I did some research on this kid.
00:32:26.000 He's this small.
00:32:27.000 His dad has him fucking do all this crazy stuff.
00:32:30.000 I'm like, that's the future, man.
00:32:31.000 And then I watched- You know, I'm not gonna say her name, but I watched two other guys who, you know, we're kind of in the same class.
00:32:39.000 They're a little older than me.
00:32:40.000 I watched them fight.
00:32:41.000 After watching Rodriguez and Northcutt, and then watching them fight, I'm like, I'm watching, I go, that's how I fight, man.
00:32:49.000 That's...
00:32:50.000 What?
00:32:51.000 It looked like you fucking went, oh, throwback Thursday in the middle of the card, you know what I'm saying?
00:32:56.000 Like, these guys are just boxing wrestling.
00:32:58.000 And then you see these young guys, and it's like, fuck, man.
00:33:02.000 Yeah.
00:33:03.000 Yeah, did you see that, uh, what is his name, Magomedov, the Russian dude that fought Sean Jordan?
00:33:10.000 Yes.
00:33:11.000 Goddamn, that guy can throw some fucking kicks.
00:33:13.000 You see that front leg question mark kick he was hitting him with?
00:33:16.000 Yes, but it's more of a Taekwondo point scoring.
00:33:19.000 Like, no one's gonna be scared of those.
00:33:20.000 I fight that guy, it's like, yeah, the kick's cool, great.
00:33:23.000 Even his punches.
00:33:24.000 I mean, he's like slapping you.
00:33:25.000 He's moving, he's moving.
00:33:26.000 He's gonna be in trouble when he gets in there with a killer.
00:33:28.000 Maybe.
00:33:29.000 Not that Jordan's not a killer, but a guy who can deal with that...
00:33:33.000 Maybe.
00:33:33.000 Because that heavyweight, I was almost a little bit of a point scorer where I had so much footwork and I'd touch and move, touch and move.
00:33:40.000 When you get a heavyweight, he's going to, okay, touch, touch, touch, whack!
00:33:43.000 Hits like a heavyweight is when you get in trouble being a lighter heavyweight.
00:33:47.000 Maybe.
00:33:48.000 What is he, 240?
00:33:49.000 He's not lighter.
00:33:49.000 He was 236, I think.
00:33:51.000 Was he?
00:33:52.000 That'd be a lighter heavyweight.
00:33:53.000 Anything on 240, I consider lighter.
00:33:55.000 Kane's 240 and he carries a roll of fat on him.
00:33:58.000 Now, would you say Kane's a knockout artist?
00:33:59.000 I wouldn't.
00:34:00.000 I wouldn't say he's a knockout artist, but you wouldn't want to get hit by him.
00:34:03.000 He's dangerous.
00:34:04.000 But Kane's also not a guy who stands outside and points, moves, points.
00:34:07.000 He gets an underhook, puts his head in your chest, and does work.
00:34:07.000 Right, no.
00:34:11.000 Totally true.
00:34:12.000 Completely different fighter.
00:34:13.000 Magomedov seems to fight more strategically.
00:34:16.000 Avoid damage first, and then land shots, and don't drain your gas tank.
00:34:21.000 I agree.
00:34:22.000 Which is smart at heavyweight.
00:34:23.000 Yeah.
00:34:24.000 To a certain point.
00:34:25.000 Because then you're going to get a guy who's not going to play that game.
00:34:28.000 Well, we'll see.
00:34:29.000 We'll see what happens to him as he moves up.
00:34:31.000 We'll see.
00:34:32.000 What I'm impressed with is his technique, though.
00:34:34.000 I agree.
00:34:35.000 His counterpunching was nasty.
00:34:36.000 That question mark kick does not have a lot of power behind it.
00:34:40.000 That's a fact.
00:34:40.000 But the fact that he throws it like that off of his front leg, like for folks who don't know how hard that is to do, that requires like some crazy dexterity.
00:34:49.000 And to see that from a heavyweight is pretty rare.
00:34:51.000 For the listeners, most people will know Donald Cerrone for throwing.
00:34:54.000 Donald throws it a lot.
00:34:56.000 Yeah, he throws it a lot.
00:34:56.000 But for a heavyweight to do, it's pretty crazy.
00:34:58.000 Yeah, and Donald doesn't throw it that much off his front leg, though.
00:35:01.000 He can.
00:35:02.000 He can.
00:35:02.000 He certainly can.
00:35:03.000 But yeah, he'll use the back.
00:35:04.000 But that guy was throwing it like a whip off his front leg.
00:35:07.000 He was coming up and then swap!
00:35:09.000 But just there wasn't much behind it.
00:35:11.000 That'd be my own.
00:35:12.000 His footwork, everything.
00:35:13.000 His cardio is great.
00:35:14.000 Counterpunching, dope, everything.
00:35:16.000 But you're getting a heavyweight where they're going to make it count.
00:35:19.000 Sean Jordan is tough as fuck, man.
00:35:21.000 He broke his rib in that first round.
00:35:23.000 He went back to his corner and said, my rib's broken.
00:35:26.000 You never saw it from his effort.
00:35:28.000 He never laid back, never put his arm over it, never tried to protect it.
00:35:32.000 He had to gut it out while that guy was staying on the outside, landing combinations.
00:35:39.000 Yeah, that main event saved that card for sure.
00:35:42.000 That main event was amazing.
00:35:43.000 Those guys like Sage Northcutt though, and here's another one, Wonderboy Thompson.
00:35:47.000 Wonderboy is the motherfucker right now.
00:35:49.000 He's a motherfucker.
00:35:50.000 Because everybody, like in the beginning, it was about taking him down and grappling with him.
00:35:56.000 But now that he's been spending so much time with Weidman, He's learning how to grapple, learning grappling defense correctly.
00:36:02.000 You're going to see more of what you saw in the Ellenberger fight.
00:36:04.000 Guys that are forced to stand up with him.
00:36:06.000 True.
00:36:07.000 Enjoy that.
00:36:08.000 Have a good time.
00:36:09.000 You're fighting a snake.
00:36:10.000 Can we call him Wonder Man, though?
00:36:11.000 I think he's 34, 35. Like, what the fuck?
00:36:15.000 Is there any way we can...
00:36:17.000 Change that, Wonder Man?
00:36:19.000 He can keep it.
00:36:20.000 Yeah?
00:36:20.000 He keeps wheel-kicking people in the head.
00:36:22.000 He can keep it.
00:36:23.000 Does he have anything coming up?
00:36:24.000 I don't know.
00:36:25.000 I don't know who he's fighting.
00:36:26.000 He got surgery.
00:36:27.000 I know he did that.
00:36:27.000 The first person to bring him in was Nate Markhart in Denver.
00:36:31.000 Nate met him through, I think, a church thing, whatever how that goes.
00:36:34.000 So brought him down, and he's just this badass in the gym, but had zero grappling.
00:36:39.000 But standing with him was a fucking nightmare.
00:36:41.000 Yeah.
00:36:42.000 And then Nate told George about him, and then...
00:36:45.000 We see Thompson up north, and he starts getting his grappling in.
00:36:48.000 And then when he got to the UFC, he was doing well with matchups, and then he got Matt Brown, right?
00:36:53.000 Yeah.
00:36:53.000 That's when he got in trouble.
00:36:54.000 Yeah, Matt Brown beat him up.
00:36:56.000 He also was overtrained for that fight.
00:36:59.000 He said he came in that fight real flat, and he knew he was in trouble even before Matt Brown.
00:37:04.000 He's not taking anything away from Matt Brown.
00:37:05.000 He goes, I just could not recover.
00:37:07.000 It was a back-and-forth fight.
00:37:08.000 Yeah, back-and-forth.
00:37:10.000 He survived, though.
00:37:10.000 He made it to the third round.
00:37:11.000 He's a beast, man.
00:37:12.000 That kid's one to watch for sure.
00:37:14.000 Now he's so nasty.
00:37:15.000 I agree.
00:37:15.000 But what those guys can do, guys like him, guys like Gair and Sage Northcutt, rather.
00:37:22.000 Sage Northcutt has that front leg kick that he throws, and it's very unusual because he stands orthodox and throws his front leg side kick off his left leg, and it's a really good front leg side kick.
00:37:33.000 So you've seen his previous fights.
00:37:35.000 Was he 7-0?
00:37:36.000 Yeah, 7-0.
00:37:37.000 So you saw the previous fights for you on the UFC? I haven't seen anything besides...
00:37:39.000 I've seen a few of his fights.
00:37:41.000 Okay.
00:37:41.000 I've been watching them for a while.
00:37:42.000 I've been hearing about them for a while too.
00:37:44.000 But what he's got is an unusual...
00:37:50.000 He's got a very high level of like karate and kickboxing and taekwondo.
00:37:54.000 Very high level of taekwondo skill.
00:37:56.000 But then also ridiculous athleticism.
00:37:59.000 Like he does front flips.
00:38:01.000 That's what I see out of him.
00:38:02.000 His athleticism is different than most.
00:38:04.000 He does these front flips and lands on the tips of his toes and like gently comes down to his heel.
00:38:08.000 It's not like a clumsy bounce.
00:38:10.000 It's like this effortless flip where he knows exactly where the ground is.
00:38:15.000 Yeah, I stalked his Instagram.
00:38:17.000 I saw him doing some crazy shit.
00:38:18.000 Like carrying wheels and shit up sand hills.
00:38:21.000 He's just a freak.
00:38:22.000 Look at this flip.
00:38:23.000 I mean, it looks like some moon landing shit.
00:38:26.000 That looks fake.
00:38:27.000 He looks like a model, too.
00:38:29.000 He looks like...
00:38:30.000 What the fuck is going on?
00:38:31.000 Paige Van Zandt if she was a boy.
00:38:33.000 Those two need to procreate.
00:38:35.000 No, they don't.
00:38:36.000 Why?
00:38:36.000 That would be like some Uber race.
00:38:37.000 Look at how he does that.
00:38:38.000 Doesn't even seem real.
00:38:39.000 That literally looks like someone's got wires attached to his hip.
00:38:42.000 That is insane.
00:38:42.000 Like, if you showed this to Eddie Bravo and put some chemtrails behind it, he would be absolutely convinced.
00:38:46.000 Oh, dude, he's going off for an hour for Northcutt and Octopus right now.
00:38:50.000 But, uh...
00:38:52.000 Dude, you know he's a student at Texas A&M? Oh, my God.
00:38:54.000 He's talking about dropping out to do fighting full-time?
00:38:57.000 Nah, man!
00:38:58.000 Nah!
00:38:58.000 No way!
00:38:59.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa!
00:39:00.000 Oh, you're saying that because of pussy?
00:39:01.000 Yeah!
00:39:02.000 Texas A&M? Johnny Manziel used to run that bitch.
00:39:05.000 He's fine.
00:39:05.000 Now it's you, Mr. Northcutt.
00:39:07.000 I don't think he needs any help.
00:39:08.000 I think it's probably better if he takes breaks.
00:39:11.000 Nah.
00:39:12.000 Just a break every now and then.
00:39:13.000 You know, I think he's uber-religious.
00:39:15.000 I don't think he even cares about that.
00:39:16.000 Eh, that's not good.
00:39:17.000 That'll build up.
00:39:19.000 Kid needs an outlet.
00:39:19.000 Yeah, those flips won't be happening like that after a while, man.
00:39:22.000 Well, a body like that needs to fuck.
00:39:23.000 You gotta unload that dick.
00:39:24.000 That's just how it works.
00:39:25.000 Yeah, you gotta unload that dick.
00:39:27.000 That dick has to be exercised just like those quads.
00:39:30.000 100%.
00:39:30.000 Don't sleep on that dick, Northcutt.
00:39:33.000 His wrestling's good, too, though.
00:39:35.000 I mean, he's not like the best in the world at anything, but altogether, it's a nasty package.
00:39:39.000 He's good at everything, and his athleticism's gonna carry him so far.
00:39:42.000 And he's only 19. Yes!
00:39:44.000 He's going to be so much better in a month.
00:39:46.000 You know what's a little scary being 19 and being in the UFC already?
00:39:50.000 Yeah, you can be champion, but let's say he loses three in a row.
00:39:54.000 Well, what's scary to me is that he is overmatched quickly.
00:39:59.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:40:00.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:40:01.000 We don't know if that even can...
00:40:02.000 Look at Michael McDonald.
00:40:03.000 Michael McDonald, 19 years old, fought Miguel Torres.
00:40:07.000 Dude, McDonnell, before he lost to Uriah Faber and before he lost to Henneporeau, was a motherfucker.
00:40:13.000 Motherfucker.
00:40:13.000 Motherfucker.
00:40:14.000 Motherfucker.
00:40:14.000 Isn't that a perfect, it's a perfect example.
00:40:16.000 It is, but you can't do what this kid can do, like with flips and stuff, but Michael McDonnell knocks motherfuckers into oblivion with his punches.
00:40:24.000 Straight out.
00:40:24.000 Where's Michael McDonnell right now?
00:40:25.000 When's the last time we've heard from Michael McDonnell?
00:40:27.000 He's been injured.
00:40:28.000 For how long?
00:40:28.000 Two years?
00:40:29.000 I think he got hurt pretty bad.
00:40:30.000 I don't know what the injury was.
00:40:31.000 I don't even know if he discloses it.
00:40:32.000 He was a motherfucker for a while.
00:40:35.000 I'm just saying the only thing that scares me is if we reference boxing, so a 19-year-old's going to have how many amateur fights?
00:40:43.000 Fucking 300?
00:40:45.000 A lot.
00:40:45.000 Before they get to turn pro?
00:40:47.000 Right?
00:40:47.000 We're seeing Northcutt's career, amateur career, right now.
00:40:51.000 Right.
00:40:52.000 With only seven fights.
00:40:53.000 What the fuck?
00:40:53.000 Seven fights ain't shit.
00:40:54.000 So let's say he wins three and he's a star.
00:40:56.000 Hey, my man.
00:40:57.000 Or you win two more and you're a star.
00:41:00.000 Hey, bro, there's nowhere to go.
00:41:02.000 We have to toss you to these monsters.
00:41:04.000 There's no buildups for three years.
00:41:06.000 Trust me.
00:41:07.000 Yeah, you would know.
00:41:09.000 That's an interesting point.
00:41:11.000 That's what's tough about the sport.
00:41:14.000 Like, Paige, right?
00:41:15.000 She's phenomenal.
00:41:16.000 She looks great.
00:41:17.000 Speaks great.
00:41:18.000 She has skills.
00:41:19.000 Cool, man.
00:41:19.000 Let's build this up.
00:41:20.000 She can be your 115-pound champ.
00:41:22.000 But she's won, what, two or three now?
00:41:25.000 All right.
00:41:25.000 Well, and that women's division is so thin.
00:41:27.000 We're going to have to throw you some motherfuckers.
00:41:29.000 Well, how about the motherfucker?
00:41:31.000 She's ranked seventh at the top of the list.
00:41:34.000 Is a goddamn murderer.
00:41:37.000 Straight up murder.
00:41:39.000 Ioana's a murderer.
00:41:40.000 She's a murderer.
00:41:41.000 I mean, she assassinates.
00:41:43.000 Definitely top five best strikers in the UFC, I'd say.
00:41:46.000 She mercs chicks.
00:41:47.000 She mercs them.
00:41:48.000 She does some horrible shit to them.
00:41:50.000 Straight up.
00:41:50.000 Yeah.
00:41:51.000 And so I think, like, when you look at her, all right, before she gets into MMA, she's a six-time world Muay Thai champion.
00:41:57.000 That's her amateur background.
00:41:59.000 Exactly.
00:41:59.000 What she had to learn was just take down defense, defend yourself on the ground, and figure out how to get back up to your feet.
00:42:05.000 That's what Crow Cop had to learn in pride.
00:42:07.000 And I think when you deal with someone like Gennady Golovkin, perfect example, he's had a fuckload of amateur boxing fights.
00:42:15.000 Insane amount.
00:42:16.000 Insane amount.
00:42:16.000 He turned pro at like late 20s.
00:42:19.000 And then he goes into the pros, and these guys just can't fucking compete with him.
00:42:23.000 Because he's ready.
00:42:24.000 He's so ready.
00:42:25.000 He's on such another level.
00:42:27.000 His technique is so sharp.
00:42:30.000 And on top of that, he gets just this stupid punching power that everybody's terrified of.
00:42:33.000 Now, would we see Triple G, the superstar that he is now, if at 19 we said, alright, you gotta go pro.
00:42:39.000 Boom.
00:42:40.000 Get it.
00:42:40.000 That's a good question.
00:42:41.000 It's tough, right?
00:42:42.000 But the thing is, it's no one's fault.
00:42:43.000 That's the infancy of the UFC. That's just where we're at.
00:42:47.000 But for someone like Paige and Northcutt, like with Northcutt, if I sat down, I'm like, dude, they offer you a top 10 guy?
00:42:54.000 No, man.
00:42:55.000 You're good.
00:42:56.000 I'm telling you, bro.
00:42:57.000 I called out fucking Brock Lesnar after I beat fucking Gabriel Gonzaga.
00:43:02.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:43:03.000 It's like, dude, what?
00:43:04.000 I wish someone had been like, yo, Shab, chill, man.
00:43:07.000 This isn't a fucking...
00:43:10.000 Sprint here.
00:43:11.000 We gotta jog, my man.
00:43:13.000 The boxing system's like super established.
00:43:15.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:43:16.000 It's been around for so long.
00:43:18.000 It's no one's fault.
00:43:18.000 But everybody knows how to do it.
00:43:20.000 Like, they know.
00:43:20.000 Like, when a guy gets to a certain level, like, you know, Terrence Crawford or something like that, like, you give the guy some tests along the way, but you realize early on, okay, you're dealing with a really talented guy.
00:43:30.000 This is what we're gonna do.
00:43:31.000 We're gonna slowly build him up with some tougher and tougher fighters, and we're gonna see where he's at.
00:43:35.000 And we're gonna sit down.
00:43:37.000 Like, that's why trainers like Freddie Roach Are so invaluable.
00:43:40.000 Because they sit down and they watch as these guys are fighting.
00:43:42.000 They go, we've got to get in with a guy who's a body puncher.
00:43:44.000 We need to see what happens.
00:43:45.000 We get pressured.
00:43:46.000 We're going to give him a test in this fight.
00:43:48.000 And what you're trying to do is you're trying to build your fighter up.
00:43:51.000 Whereas what happens in MMA, there's no long-term structure and there's no amateur structure that's like...
00:44:00.000 Comparable to what boxing has so it's really hard for people to get built up to the point where They come into the pro ranks with a very high degree of skill unless they come from a different discipline wrestling That's why I see wrestlers Damien Maia Damien Maia who's fucking smashing people I mean Damien Maia's jiu-jitsu is terrifying but what what was he was a multiple-time world jiu-jitsu champion Jacare Jacare,
00:44:26.000 same thing.
00:44:26.000 Ioana, same thing.
00:44:28.000 Murderer, Muay Thai champion, six-time world champion.
00:44:32.000 Across the board, there's so many examples.
00:44:34.000 Johnny Hendricks, elite wrestler.
00:44:36.000 Tyron Woodley, elite wrestler.
00:44:38.000 You can go down the list.
00:44:39.000 Cain Velasquez, Daniel Cormier, elite wrestlers.
00:44:42.000 You look at all the champs, Ronda Rousey, Judo, Olympics.
00:44:45.000 You look at all the champs, they have this extensive amateur background.
00:44:48.000 And now you get these other guys who don't have that background.
00:44:50.000 It's such a disadvantage, man.
00:44:52.000 It's no one's fault.
00:44:53.000 I'm not pointing any fingers at all.
00:44:55.000 I'm saying it's an issue in the sport.
00:44:58.000 It's tough, man, because I was talking with someone, I think with Kenny Floyd, and I'm like, man, I'd love to see Northcutt get like eight fights in the UFC. Just murk people and get comfortable, and we both agreed that that's not going to happen.
00:45:11.000 Because he wins four in a row, people are crying for a towel shot.
00:45:14.000 And a reason for this is because of these freaks, these one-percenters that everyone compares everyone to, and that's like a Ronda Rousey who just comes on the scene, Merck and people, or Jon Jones.
00:45:25.000 You're talking about, most people aren't like that, man.
00:45:28.000 Those are the LeBron James of our sport.
00:45:30.000 Yeah.
00:45:30.000 Most people in the sport, at the championship level, are not like Jon Jones.
00:45:34.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:45:35.000 Or Ronda.
00:45:36.000 They're just not.
00:45:37.000 They don't have that mental game.
00:45:39.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:45:40.000 Again, the extensive competition background before you ever get to MMA, I think you become a champion already.
00:45:48.000 There's only a few guys.
00:45:50.000 Gustafson's a good example.
00:45:51.000 Gustafson was a good boxer.
00:45:53.000 He was an amateur boxer, I believe, before he got into MMA. Correct.
00:45:57.000 But how much experience did he have in boxing?
00:46:00.000 How many amateur fights did he have?
00:46:02.000 I don't think it's extensive.
00:46:03.000 I don't think, you know, he's like a...
00:46:05.000 He's obviously like a hair off the champion.
00:46:09.000 You know, a hair off the Jon Jones fight, a hair off the Cormier fight.
00:46:12.000 He wins that fifth round.
00:46:13.000 With Cormier, he's a world champ right now.
00:46:15.000 I agree, and it's heartbreaking.
00:46:17.000 Yeah.
00:46:17.000 It's super, that fight was super heartbreaking for me.
00:46:20.000 That fight was crazy.
00:46:21.000 For Gus Fin, because it's like, he lost to John, now he loses to DC. He's just, he's that guy, man.
00:46:28.000 Did you see the picture he posted on his Instagram today?
00:46:30.000 And I saw you retweeted it.
00:46:31.000 Almost made me tear up.
00:46:33.000 I know, man.
00:46:33.000 Me too.
00:46:34.000 You know?
00:46:35.000 I love that guy.
00:46:35.000 Yeah, he's a great guy.
00:46:36.000 I love DC too.
00:46:37.000 That photo.
00:46:38.000 I love DC too, and that was a great fight.
00:46:40.000 But now you've got a motherfucker waiting.
00:46:43.000 John Jones.
00:46:43.000 And I don't know if you've seen his Instagram, but this motherfucker's motivated.
00:46:48.000 He was whooping everyone's ass three weeks of training.
00:46:51.000 What?
00:46:52.000 Now you're going to take coquina away from this motherfucker and drugs and make him lift weights?
00:46:57.000 And now he's going to do a real camp?
00:46:59.000 What the fuck do you think is going to happen?
00:47:00.000 He's going to have a hard time cutting weight.
00:47:02.000 Nah, he'll figure it out.
00:47:04.000 Nah, he'll figure it out.
00:47:08.000 What?
00:47:08.000 Fuck that!
00:47:09.000 He looked big, didn't he?
00:47:11.000 Jacked!
00:47:11.000 Looks like he's getting ready for prison.
00:47:13.000 Jacked!
00:47:14.000 Jacked!
00:47:16.000 Jacked, man.
00:47:16.000 Yeah, he's the best.
00:47:18.000 He's the best.
00:47:19.000 As far as light heavyweights go, for sure.
00:47:21.000 It's not close, though, Joe.
00:47:23.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:47:23.000 I love DC. I fucking love DC. That guy, I love working with him.
00:47:28.000 I love being around him.
00:47:29.000 He is greatness at its finest.
00:47:31.000 You know, I have a son on the way.
00:47:33.000 DC's a guy I can point to and say, be like DC. He's a good example.
00:47:36.000 He's a great dude.
00:47:37.000 He's done it the right way.
00:47:38.000 You can't say that about John, right?
00:47:40.000 Well, right now you can't.
00:47:42.000 But John's a young guy.
00:47:43.000 He's 27 years old, right?
00:47:45.000 Not that young.
00:47:46.000 But the thing is, with DC, he's like the Phil Mickelson.
00:47:51.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:47:52.000 He's like Phil Mickelson of golf.
00:47:54.000 Who's Phil Mickelson?
00:47:56.000 Exactly.
00:47:56.000 If Tiger Woods isn't around, we're all fucking wearing Phil Mickelson shoes and shit right now.
00:48:01.000 Really?
00:48:01.000 Yeah, man.
00:48:02.000 But Tiger Woods is that motherfucker.
00:48:03.000 He's that 1% better.
00:48:05.000 And just beat him every time.
00:48:07.000 Sucks to be Phil.
00:48:08.000 I know, man.
00:48:10.000 He's still making bank.
00:48:11.000 He's still making bank and people love him.
00:48:13.000 That's the difference between the UFC and golf.
00:48:16.000 You're not making that John Jones money.
00:48:18.000 Second place.
00:48:18.000 You can still have a private jet.
00:48:20.000 I bet that dude's got a private jet.
00:48:21.000 Ask Mr. Tate how number two's doing behind Ronda.
00:48:24.000 It ain't fun.
00:48:25.000 You ain't sipping champagne with Dana White on private jets and number two wear Nike and shit.
00:48:34.000 Well, the disparity between number one and number two financially is fucking enormous.
00:48:40.000 Infighting?
00:48:40.000 Yeah.
00:48:41.000 Yeah!
00:48:42.000 Fuck yes!
00:48:43.000 It's fucking enormous.
00:48:44.000 It's like there's no other place where it's bigger.
00:48:47.000 You know?
00:48:49.000 Yeah, I mean, boxing, you could say that a little bit.
00:48:52.000 Well, not really.
00:48:53.000 Do you know who I think is the biggest threat to John?
00:48:56.000 I'd love to hear this.
00:48:58.000 Rumble.
00:48:58.000 Oh, I disagree.
00:48:59.000 See, I think Rumble...
00:49:00.000 If Rumble gets his conditioning together, and I think Rumble had a real hard time in that Cormier fight, but the Rumble that you see when you saw him fight Jimmy Manoa, the Rumble that, like...
00:49:14.000 You're smiling.
00:49:15.000 Why are you smiling?
00:49:15.000 I'm smiling because you're like, man, if Rumble fucking got his cardio together, bro, and fucking got taller and longer, his reach.
00:49:22.000 No, no, no, I'm not saying that.
00:49:23.000 You're asking for a lot.
00:49:24.000 I didn't say that.
00:49:25.000 Well, he said the guy that fought Jim.
00:49:26.000 He didn't help Gustafson when he fought Gustafson.
00:49:28.000 He took Gustafson out in the first round.
00:49:30.000 True.
00:49:31.000 With a headbutt.
00:49:32.000 But the thing is...
00:49:33.000 No, I love Rumble.
00:49:35.000 Don't get me wrong.
00:49:35.000 I love Rumble.
00:49:36.000 They definitely did clash heads, but I think his head got hit too, right?
00:49:38.000 I'll tell you exactly what happens if Jon fights Rumble.
00:49:40.000 What happens?
00:49:41.000 Jon takes him down, wears his ass out, and breaks him in the second round.
00:49:44.000 Probably submits him or TKOs him.
00:49:46.000 Wow.
00:49:47.000 That's how good John is, man.
00:49:49.000 And everyone's like, oh, Shob's a John Jones nut hugger.
00:49:51.000 Nah, man.
00:49:52.000 He's very good.
00:49:52.000 I don't know what to tell you.
00:49:53.000 He's better than very good.
00:49:54.000 Very good's not even a good enough description.
00:49:56.000 Yeah, I agree.
00:49:57.000 He's by far the best.
00:49:59.000 Like, we have everyone, and then we have John.
00:50:01.000 That's how fucking good this guy is.
00:50:03.000 That's how bad he's beating people.
00:50:05.000 What if John had the kind of technique that Mighty Mouse has?
00:50:08.000 Fuck it.
00:50:09.000 Kind of technique and footwork.
00:50:10.000 We're gonna have to do like a rumble match, like two on one.
00:50:13.000 What if all this time off, Jon Jones comes out and he starts fighting like TJ Dillashaw.
00:50:17.000 Oh my god.
00:50:18.000 What?
00:50:19.000 What?
00:50:20.000 Oh, okay.
00:50:20.000 What do you think about this TJ Dillashaw thing?
00:50:22.000 TJ Dillashaw moved camps to Elevation, Team Elevation in Colorado, and, you know, Uriah is, uh, noted, Well, understandably upset, you know?
00:50:33.000 I knew this for weeks because he moved to my head coach, my old head coach.
00:50:37.000 Oh, really?
00:50:37.000 Yeah, but I couldn't say anything.
00:50:38.000 I don't want to break the news.
00:50:39.000 I'm not fucking Ariel Helwani.
00:50:40.000 Someone's coming with cash?
00:50:42.000 Is that what it is?
00:50:42.000 Yeah, Muscle Farm Jim is paying the UFC fighters now.
00:50:46.000 Ooh.
00:50:46.000 And so, yeah, TJ's going there.
00:50:48.000 And I'll tell you what it does do.
00:50:50.000 You ready for this one?
00:50:51.000 It sets up Uriah, TJ, talk about a fucking countdown.
00:50:56.000 What?
00:50:57.000 Yeah.
00:50:57.000 Reebok hits for everybody.
00:50:59.000 Yeah.
00:51:00.000 What?
00:51:02.000 You imagine that fight?
00:51:03.000 Do you think they would do that?
00:51:04.000 100%.
00:51:05.000 They agreed they would fight each other.
00:51:06.000 And now even more.
00:51:08.000 Wow.
00:51:08.000 Yeah, they've said previously they would be down for it.
00:51:10.000 So what is the Muscle Farm deal?
00:51:11.000 Is it some dude with oil money or something?
00:51:13.000 I don't know what those Muscle Farm deals do.
00:51:15.000 Some guy owns a diamond factory somewhere?
00:51:16.000 I don't know.
00:51:16.000 Well, I think what they're going to do is because they can't really be...
00:51:20.000 In the UFC anymore.
00:51:21.000 So they came up with this plan.
00:51:22.000 We're like, all right, we'll sponsor fighters.
00:51:24.000 So we'll get all their Instagram and social media and we can put our brand on them that way.
00:51:28.000 Oh, really?
00:51:29.000 Yeah.
00:51:30.000 Huh.
00:51:30.000 Because since Reebok came, right?
00:51:32.000 That's pretty smart.
00:51:33.000 It's smart.
00:51:33.000 It's actually pretty smart.
00:51:34.000 I don't know how much they're paying them if it's smart, but it makes smart to get their social media because I always thought about this because let's say you give me whatever 10 grand to wear a t-shirt for one night for 30 seconds, or you can sponsor for the year and all my fucking social media and training, I'm rocking your shit.
00:51:49.000 You can get way more coverage, man.
00:51:50.000 Well, you can today, too, especially with a guy like TJ that's super popular or someone like Rhonda or, you know, anyone who's, like, very popular on social media.
00:51:59.000 True.
00:52:00.000 You gotta be social media savvy, though.
00:52:01.000 A lot of guys aren't.
00:52:02.000 Or you gotta have someone that works with you and for you, like a manager or something like that who knows how to do that shit.
00:52:08.000 I used to hire a photographer, Eric Williams, a beast photographer, and he'd come to my training camps and he'd take all these pictures and send them to me at night so I could post them throughout the week.
00:52:15.000 But you would post them all yourself?
00:52:16.000 Yeah.
00:52:17.000 Yeah.
00:52:17.000 Some people post all their shit themselves, and some people, like, some athletes and even some, like, musicians, you see, like, posted by Team Cruise.
00:52:29.000 Yeah, I know.
00:52:29.000 Like, Tom Cruise has, like, a team that posts this stuff.
00:52:32.000 It's kind of lame, though, isn't it?
00:52:33.000 It's very lame.
00:52:33.000 Like, I think it's dope that social media allows people access that they normally wouldn't have.
00:52:38.000 Yeah, that's what it's supposed to be all about.
00:52:40.000 The personal interaction, like, whatever.
00:52:42.000 I'm not saying dick pics, but you know what I'm saying.
00:52:43.000 That's what it's supposed to be all about.
00:52:45.000 It's supposed to be all about, like, if you get a tweet from me, unless it's from a YouTube video, like the YouTube videos, when they get uploaded, they automatically generate a tweet.
00:52:55.000 Yeah.
00:52:55.000 But that's just the title of the YouTube video.
00:52:57.000 There's no opinion in that or anything like that.
00:52:59.000 If you get opinions or, hey, this movie was fucking awesome, I ate at this place, it tasted great.
00:53:04.000 That's you.
00:53:04.000 That's on me.
00:53:05.000 That's Joe Rogan.
00:53:06.000 100%.
00:53:06.000 I don't want to let anybody else do that.
00:53:07.000 Dude, my manager one time, I forget which fight, was like, oh, I'll tweet live for you during your fight.
00:53:12.000 I'm like, get the fuck out of here.
00:53:14.000 Can you imagine?
00:53:15.000 What are you, crazy?
00:53:16.000 What kind of gross shit he would say?
00:53:17.000 You have one eye.
00:53:17.000 No, hell no.
00:53:19.000 Fuck no.
00:53:20.000 When I was doing a show, they wanted to take my social media.
00:53:24.000 Sci-fi wanted to take over my social media.
00:53:27.000 You're batshit crazy.
00:53:28.000 I would never do that.
00:53:29.000 I was like, you gotta be on drugs.
00:53:32.000 I didn't let my girl fucking see my social media.
00:53:34.000 What?
00:53:35.000 I'm not giving anyone my fault.
00:53:36.000 Arsenio Hall was at the Ice House one night, and I was talking to him.
00:53:40.000 It was after his show.
00:53:41.000 You know, he did the Arsenio Hall reboot.
00:53:43.000 And after they did it for a while, it didn't work.
00:53:46.000 Or it didn't work out or whatever.
00:53:48.000 He's having fun.
00:53:49.000 He doesn't give a shit.
00:53:50.000 But he was like, I can't get my fucking Facebook back.
00:53:52.000 He's like, they have my Facebook.
00:53:54.000 And I go, well, you can't get it back?
00:53:55.000 He's like, well, I had to give it to them when I had to give control of my social media.
00:53:59.000 Oh, you fucked up.
00:54:00.000 Yeah, you had to do that.
00:54:01.000 Well, Kevin Hart was talking about this, how movies now tell him, like, hey, man, we need you to tweet out or Instagram the movie.
00:54:08.000 He's like, that's not in the contract.
00:54:09.000 If you want that, you got to write that in.
00:54:11.000 That's extra money, man.
00:54:12.000 This is a completely different machine.
00:54:15.000 I'm doing the movie, you're paying me for my talents.
00:54:17.000 If you want me to promote on social media that I've billed myself over the years, you're going to have to write this into the contract.
00:54:24.000 That's interesting because I would think that if he did something that he enjoyed, he would want people to see it, so he would use his social media.
00:54:30.000 I think he's looking at like a business, though.
00:54:31.000 I get it 100%.
00:54:33.000 I get it 100%.
00:54:35.000 I do, but I also think, like, at his level, he must be making so much fucking money that, like, to say I want more money to use my social media presence.
00:54:44.000 Like, what the social media presence is really just going to do is alert his fans to some movie that he's doing, which is good.
00:54:49.000 To watch his movie.
00:54:51.000 Sometimes you gotta be careful with social media, and this is just me, right?
00:54:54.000 Compared to Kevin Hart, I'm not shit, I'm a grain of sand.
00:54:57.000 But when a company comes to me and goes, whatever, we want to work with the fire and the kid.
00:55:01.000 I'm like, cool, well the deal's with me and Brian, and they're like, yeah, but we want your social media.
00:55:05.000 To have me post this stuff, listen man, fans, they hate that shit.
00:55:09.000 Yeah, they don't.
00:55:10.000 It's a motherfucker, man.
00:55:11.000 They always want to figure out some way to weasel in.
00:55:14.000 Always.
00:55:15.000 Some way.
00:55:16.000 Always.
00:55:16.000 There's gotta be a way to get in here.
00:55:18.000 You know, a lot of things, a lot of people are experiencing this.
00:55:21.000 They're getting courted by these networks, like there'll be a network, like a podcast network will come to them and want to take a piece of the action and get in return.
00:55:32.000 They would provide them with a certain amount of commercials.
00:55:34.000 Like really, they're not providing anything.
00:55:36.000 But what they're doing is they're saying, by saying, you know, hey, we'll provide you with some commercials, we'll give you some commercial revenue.
00:55:42.000 But by saying that, what they're really doing is they're trying to figure out a way where they can make money off of what you're doing, where you're doing it completely independently.
00:55:54.000 Like right now, what you're doing is you're taking your stuff and you're just putting it online.
00:55:59.000 Now, you've got to figure out that somehow, someway, someone is eventually going to figure out how to advertise that.
00:56:05.000 So what they're doing is they're seeing, like, this guy's missing out on some money.
00:56:08.000 What I'm going to do is I'm going to move in here, and I'm going to take some of his – I'm going to give him some money, but I'm going to take some of his money where it doesn't make any sense that I would make that money.
00:56:16.000 Yeah, man.
00:56:17.000 They're giving away 50% in some of these cases where they're joining podcast networks.
00:56:23.000 The network's asking for 50%.
00:56:24.000 And I know people have done this.
00:56:26.000 It's like, what are you thinking, man?
00:56:28.000 It's crazy.
00:56:29.000 Don't give anyone 50%.
00:56:31.000 But if you had a radio show, that makes sense.
00:56:33.000 Like, say if you were on CBS radio, whatever, just for a name to use, right?
00:56:39.000 And you had some sports radio show, and they said, listen, we're going to syndicate your show.
00:56:43.000 We're going to bring your show across the country, and this is what we want.
00:56:48.000 We're going to get advertisers, and we're going to give you 50% of the ad revenue, but you're going to make a lot of money.
00:56:52.000 You'd be like, whoa.
00:56:53.000 Okay, that sounds pretty good.
00:56:54.000 Sounds like a good deal.
00:56:55.000 But really, there's no channels that people automatically go to.
00:57:00.000 What people do is they download podcasts that they like, whether it's Radio Lab or The Fighter and the Kid or The Church of What's Happening Now.
00:57:07.000 They go to what they like and then they get it.
00:57:10.000 The idea that you're just going to tune into a dial 6.40 a.m.
00:57:14.000 It's the ghost.
00:57:15.000 You know what I mean?
00:57:16.000 The ghost morning show.
00:57:18.000 You know what I mean?
00:57:20.000 That is like you have a distinct location that people are accustomed to going to.
00:57:25.000 They're going to go there.
00:57:26.000 It's like if you want ad space on Santa Monica Boulevard.
00:57:29.000 Well, you know Santa Monica Boulevard is a well-traveled area.
00:57:31.000 If you put up a billboard up there, it kind of makes sense.
00:57:34.000 You have to pay a lot of money.
00:57:35.000 But if someone says, dude, I got this billboard.
00:57:37.000 It's in a little fucking desert.
00:57:38.000 I want a lot of money.
00:57:39.000 I want a fuckload of money.
00:57:40.000 I want half of what you made.
00:57:42.000 I need 50%.
00:57:42.000 I'm going to put this billboard up.
00:57:44.000 Can other people get to that billboard?
00:57:45.000 Yes.
00:57:46.000 They just have to get in their car and they have to drive out to the desert.
00:57:49.000 Now, about the money.
00:57:51.000 Bro, me and Callan had a serious discussion because, you know, with the show- No glory link yet?
00:57:57.000 No glory, huh?
00:57:58.000 We're trying to find out.
00:57:59.000 We're supposed to get a link.
00:58:00.000 With the podcast doing better, we're getting more sponsors, advertising stuff like that.
00:58:05.000 And we had a major corporate sponsor come to us.
00:58:08.000 Now, I fancy myself, when I was younger, a couple of these products, especially with cheese and ketchup only.
00:58:15.000 I loved them, man.
00:58:17.000 I don't promote it now.
00:58:20.000 But I could buy a lot with it, you know what I'm saying?
00:58:22.000 But Cal was like, absolutely not, man.
00:58:25.000 He's like, I would never tell people to buy this stuff.
00:58:27.000 Yeah, you can't tell people to buy that.
00:58:28.000 You can't.
00:58:29.000 You can't.
00:58:30.000 And after talking to Cal and I ran some stuff by you, it's just like, you can't do that, man.
00:58:36.000 Unless you love it.
00:58:37.000 Like if In-N-Out Burger came to me and they wanted to offer a sponsorship, I might have to fucking say yes.
00:58:42.000 I'll tell you right now, Chick-fil-A comes to me.
00:58:44.000 What?
00:58:45.000 Chick-fil-A? They hate gay people.
00:58:47.000 Do you know that?
00:58:48.000 Hey man, I'm just trying to get a chicken sandwich, bro.
00:58:53.000 Listen, they hate gay people.
00:58:54.000 Do they?
00:58:54.000 Yeah.
00:58:55.000 Jamie's like, not anymore.
00:58:56.000 Not anymore.
00:58:57.000 As if the PR push worked.
00:59:00.000 It only worked on Jamie.
00:59:02.000 Jamie's the only one.
00:59:03.000 Like, not anymore.
00:59:03.000 He interrupts the podcast.
00:59:04.000 Not anymore.
00:59:05.000 Not anymore.
00:59:06.000 You don't even know.
00:59:08.000 That's why.
00:59:09.000 That's why.
00:59:10.000 Damn, so I can't eat Chick-fil-A anymore?
00:59:12.000 That's great.
00:59:12.000 That's why those goddamn promos work.
00:59:14.000 That's why those.
00:59:15.000 They got me and Jamie.
00:59:16.000 Those publicists.
00:59:17.000 I'll fucking take a chicken sandwich right now.
00:59:19.000 No, they're very rude about the gay people.
00:59:21.000 They spend money to try to stop gay marriage.
00:59:23.000 Really?
00:59:23.000 Oh, fuck.
00:59:24.000 Yeah, it's been a big thing.
00:59:25.000 That chicken is so delicious.
00:59:27.000 You've ruined my night.
00:59:28.000 You can do a good job.
00:59:28.000 It doesn't matter.
00:59:29.000 You can still eat it.
00:59:30.000 It doesn't matter in the long run.
00:59:31.000 I like gay people, though.
00:59:32.000 Just because you have stupid opinions doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to make money.
00:59:35.000 True.
00:59:35.000 The problem is when they're using those stupid opinions.
00:59:38.000 See, they're super religious, and that's one of the things.
00:59:41.000 Religious people, they don't freak out about some things that are in the Bible.
00:59:45.000 You very rarely see religious people protesting against tattoos.
00:59:49.000 But in the Bible, it very clearly says, don't get tattoos.
00:59:53.000 We're both fucked.
00:59:53.000 We're both fucked.
00:59:54.000 Both super fucked.
00:59:55.000 But what's hilarious is there's a lot of people that are super religious that fucking tattoo religious shit on their body.
01:00:01.000 You're not supposed to do that.
01:00:02.000 Like, there's other stuff.
01:00:04.000 You're not supposed to...
01:00:04.000 Like, if you go Old Testament, you're not supposed to be eating pork.
01:00:07.000 You know?
01:00:07.000 You're not supposed to be, like, an animal, a split hoof that chews its own cut.
01:00:11.000 Like, there's, like...
01:00:11.000 You have rules, like, what you're supposed to eat and what you're not allowed to eat.
01:00:15.000 And...
01:00:16.000 There's a lot of people that break those rules.
01:00:18.000 There's a bunch of rules about divorce, and there's rules about property, and there's rules that people break in the Bible all the time.
01:00:24.000 But for whatever reason, with really religious folks, that gay rule is the rule that they want enforced.
01:00:31.000 Why do they give a fuck?
01:00:33.000 It's weird.
01:00:34.000 It's weird.
01:00:35.000 Like my good friend Joe Rogan said, maybe they're worried that dicks taste delicious.
01:00:39.000 Yeah, they're fighting off the gay for sure.
01:00:41.000 Fighting off the gay?
01:00:42.000 Fighting off like a vampire putting garlic around their neck and shit.
01:00:46.000 It's also, I think they think of gay.
01:00:49.000 This is my amateur psychologist opinion.
01:00:52.000 Love to hear it.
01:00:53.000 I think some people think of gay as being decadent and indulgent in that this will lead to slovenly behavior and too much partying and fucking and guys sucking each other off and coming at each other.
01:01:09.000 This is not conducive to a good, well-oiled society.
01:01:14.000 Like, well-oiled society needs people to be buttoned down and conservative.
01:01:18.000 That's why conservative people, they tend to dress with suits and ties.
01:01:21.000 They tend to let you know, like, look, we're going to follow.
01:01:24.000 I'm down with this agenda.
01:01:26.000 God, guns, country.
01:01:28.000 I listen to country music.
01:01:30.000 I got a Second Amendment thing.
01:01:31.000 They're so cookie-cutter in the way they think.
01:01:34.000 That it's somewhere along the line, like, God, there's so many people that think along the same way.
01:01:38.000 Well, this is an adoption of an ideology.
01:01:41.000 They're adopting a way to think.
01:01:43.000 They're adopting this hard-working, American, blue-collar, conservative, religious, God bless America.
01:01:54.000 Put your hands over your heart.
01:01:54.000 Let's all join in in prayer.
01:01:57.000 God bless America!
01:01:59.000 Don't you think they're doing that so they don't have to think for themselves?
01:02:02.000 There's a little of that.
01:02:03.000 There's a little of that.
01:02:04.000 And there's also your subscribing to this ideology that would most likely, what you believe is, it'll most likely prevent people from acting crazy and doing stupid shit because they're going to follow God's rules so it'll be easier to raise kids.
01:02:19.000 Like, it'll be easier to have a family and just bring them to church on Sunday, and you say hello to the Wilsons, and everybody talks fake.
01:02:25.000 You're all talking like your strip club DJs.
01:02:27.000 Hello, Mr. Wilson!
01:02:28.000 Hey, you got a nice new sedan there, Mr. Wilson.
01:02:31.000 Jimmy, come on down.
01:02:33.000 Listen, man, people are looking at it all wrong.
01:02:36.000 I mean, the more gay dudes, the better.
01:02:38.000 More chicks for me, man.
01:02:39.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
01:02:40.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
01:02:41.000 Fuck it.
01:02:42.000 I think there's that, and there's also, like...
01:02:44.000 This shit that I don't like, I don't like discrimination.
01:02:48.000 I don't like it.
01:02:49.000 I don't like any discrimination.
01:02:50.000 It drives me nuts.
01:02:51.000 I agree 100%.
01:02:52.000 But in both ways, though, too.
01:02:53.000 Like, I saw today, there was a Seattle yoga place that will not accept white men.
01:03:00.000 Or white people or white men.
01:03:02.000 I tweeted it earlier today.
01:03:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:03:05.000 Yoga's white as fuck.
01:03:06.000 Do you hate money?
01:03:08.000 Who is this?
01:03:09.000 Yeah, I'll pull it up on my Twitter.
01:03:11.000 When's the last time you went to a yoga class?
01:03:12.000 Like, damn, there's a lot of black people in there.
01:03:14.000 Well, it's not that common, I don't think.
01:03:16.000 I don't think so.
01:03:17.000 Some of the black folks enjoy the yoga.
01:03:19.000 They might.
01:03:20.000 I'm saying in general, if you want to make money, for sure don't kick out white people.
01:03:23.000 Well, I think that's their point.
01:03:24.000 I think they wanted something that's theirs.
01:03:26.000 But to say that white people can't come, like, goddammit, you're missing the boat.
01:03:32.000 Yeah, you fucked up, son.
01:03:33.000 It just doesn't seem to make any sense.
01:03:35.000 Someone fucked you on your business plan.
01:03:37.000 No whites allowed.
01:03:39.000 It's whites.
01:03:40.000 Yeah, they only want people of color.
01:03:42.000 They want to exclude Caucasians.
01:03:44.000 This isn't Seattle?
01:03:45.000 Yes.
01:03:46.000 Kurt Cobain land?
01:03:47.000 You're fucking up, man.
01:03:48.000 Yeah.
01:03:49.000 A lot of white people up there.
01:03:51.000 A lot of white people?
01:03:52.000 Ah, it's tough.
01:03:53.000 Well, you know, some people think that supporting black people is not racist.
01:03:59.000 That just supporting, universally supporting black people is not racist because black people have been oppressed and that what you're doing is you're giving them a place where they can join in a community and feel like they belong because they feel ostracized from the rest of the world, especially in Seattle where everybody's white.
01:04:15.000 The problem with that kind of thinking is it's still the same thing.
01:04:18.000 We're saying white people can't come in.
01:04:20.000 It's still the same thing as saying black people can't come in.
01:04:22.000 Man, that's racist.
01:04:23.000 It's racist.
01:04:24.000 Towards white people.
01:04:24.000 Yeah, it's just racist.
01:04:25.000 You know what?
01:04:26.000 Just make your fucking yoga place just super inviting to blacks.
01:04:30.000 Make it awesome.
01:04:30.000 Just make it awesome to everybody.
01:04:32.000 And if you want more black people to do it because you identify with those black people, reach out to them.
01:04:37.000 But to say that white people can't come to your yoga class...
01:04:40.000 That seems crazy.
01:04:41.000 It's the worst idea I've ever heard.
01:04:42.000 Why would you not like people based on how much melanin they carry in their skin or their ethnic origin of their grandparents?
01:04:48.000 It's fucking stupid.
01:04:49.000 It's fucking stupid.
01:04:51.000 It's stupid if you're white.
01:04:52.000 It's stupid if you're black.
01:04:53.000 It's stupid if you're Asian.
01:04:54.000 It's stupid.
01:04:55.000 You're ignorant.
01:04:56.000 Yeah.
01:04:57.000 So what religion is Chick-fil-A? Christian.
01:05:00.000 Fucking A. Yeah.
01:05:02.000 That is heartbreaking.
01:05:03.000 Yeah.
01:05:03.000 Fuck you, Chick-fil-A. There's a bunch of Chick-fil-A stuff online.
01:05:07.000 There's people that were boycotting them and shit.
01:05:09.000 That's crazy, man.
01:05:10.000 You know, I had a cousin who was basically beat to death because he was gay.
01:05:15.000 Whoa.
01:05:16.000 Yeah, man.
01:05:16.000 So super touchy for me.
01:05:17.000 So no more Chick-fil-A for me, even though I love that fucking chicken sandwich.
01:05:21.000 Yeah, see, that's fucking crazy.
01:05:23.000 He was on a bus.
01:05:24.000 He was on a bus, and he was very, like, flamboyant.
01:05:28.000 And they jumped him and basically beat him to a pulp, and he went home and died later.
01:05:35.000 Crazy, right?
01:05:37.000 Jesus Christ.
01:05:38.000 Bummer, man.
01:05:39.000 Didn't mean to fuck up the flow of the podcast.
01:05:41.000 Jesus Christ.
01:05:41.000 Where was this?
01:05:42.000 Where'd this happen?
01:05:43.000 Denver.
01:05:44.000 Denver.
01:05:44.000 It was on a public transportation bus.
01:05:47.000 Oh, my God.
01:05:47.000 Yeah, a bunch of dudes jumped him for being gay.
01:05:49.000 They didn't find out who it was?
01:05:50.000 Yeah, they did catch him.
01:05:52.000 Wow.
01:05:52.000 What happened to them?
01:05:53.000 I'm not sure.
01:05:55.000 I remember when I was in college at the time, my dad telling me, I was like, what?
01:05:59.000 Fuck.
01:06:00.000 And I remember, like, when I was younger, me and my brother were pretty close to him, him and his brother Nathan, and then, you know, you do shit and you just fall out of touch, but I remember my dad telling me, I'm like, what the fuck?
01:06:11.000 I remember being mad that I couldn't help him.
01:06:14.000 It's weird, right?
01:06:15.000 The idea that someone would want to just hit someone because they're flamboyant, because they're gay.
01:06:21.000 What?
01:06:21.000 I know, what the fuck is wrong with people?
01:06:23.000 It's the way they were raised.
01:06:24.000 It's 100% what it is.
01:06:25.000 It's the way they were raised.
01:06:26.000 It's 100%.
01:06:27.000 If you were raised in a community that didn't give a shit, That would be like no big deal.
01:06:32.000 Like if, okay, let's just say us, like all of us in this room, like you, me, and Jamie, if we had our own little community and one of us had a kid and another one of us had a kid and we found out Jamie's kid is gay, do you think you would want your kid to beat up Jamie's kid?
01:06:50.000 Would you say you got to kick their ass?
01:06:52.000 Would you promote that kind of thinking?
01:06:54.000 No way.
01:06:54.000 No way.
01:06:55.000 It would never happen.
01:06:56.000 It wouldn't be possible.
01:06:57.000 But when you get enough fucking idiots in a city, and you get enough really narrow-minded, bigoted people that have these shitty ideas about other people's sexual orientations, or the way they choose to wear their clothes, or whether they choose to be goth, or whether it's anything, whatever it is,
01:07:13.000 if it doesn't affect you, is it poisoning your pool?
01:07:16.000 I know, who cares?
01:07:17.000 Are they killing your vegetables in your garden?
01:07:19.000 Who cares the fuck?
01:07:19.000 Like, what's going on when you're upset?
01:07:23.000 You're raising people to have this fear of it, and then they're interacting with other people at school, and they all have this fear of it, and they all want to let everybody know that they're not like that.
01:07:31.000 And one of the best ways to let people know that you're not like that is to attack people who are like that.
01:07:35.000 It's crazy, man.
01:07:36.000 Think about...
01:07:36.000 I had a transgender person on our show, Caitlin Beck, and she was saying that...
01:07:43.000 Kristen Beck.
01:07:44.000 Kristen Beck, dude.
01:07:44.000 Save my man.
01:07:45.000 Kristen Beck.
01:07:46.000 And she was saying she's walking down the road and just...
01:07:50.000 Group of five guys came from behind and beat the shit out of her.
01:07:53.000 Shit happens all the time.
01:07:54.000 Transgender, it's their number one concern.
01:07:57.000 Walking down the road getting beat up.
01:08:00.000 And she was a Navy SEAL. She was a Navy SEAL and gets her ass wet.
01:08:05.000 That's a crazy situation, man.
01:08:07.000 To be a Navy SEAL, full beard, badass, American killer, out there.
01:08:14.000 I think it proves that they're wired like that.
01:08:17.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:08:17.000 Like, no one chooses like, oh, I want to take all this on.
01:08:20.000 Especially today's society.
01:08:21.000 What?
01:08:22.000 Yeah, I want to take all this on.
01:08:23.000 I want to be gay and have people criticize me and all this shit.
01:08:26.000 Some people are certainly wired that way.
01:08:28.000 I think some are, yes.
01:08:29.000 And I think some choose, but I think a lot of people are born that way.
01:08:32.000 And you know what?
01:08:32.000 Here's the other thing, though.
01:08:33.000 The people that do choose, that's their choice.
01:08:35.000 I agree.
01:08:36.000 Have fun, man.
01:08:36.000 Yeah, they're allowed to have that choice.
01:08:38.000 Get weird.
01:08:39.000 Yeah.
01:08:39.000 It's like, if you want to be Debbie now, that's cool.
01:08:41.000 You know, whoever the fuck you want to be, I don't give a shit.
01:08:44.000 Again, same thing.
01:08:45.000 If it doesn't affect me, if it doesn't affect me, I don't really care.
01:08:48.000 I agree 100%.
01:08:49.000 The people that do care, though, they're scary.
01:08:52.000 They're scary to those folks.
01:08:53.000 To a folk, someone that's Transgender or someone that's flamboyant or black.
01:08:59.000 You're in the wrong place.
01:09:00.000 You're black or white.
01:09:01.000 If you're in the wrong place, you're white.
01:09:02.000 There's people that will beat the fuck out of you because they feel like you got a fucking easy hand because you were raised white.
01:09:08.000 The world is crazy, man.
01:09:09.000 There's bad people in almost every single demographic.
01:09:14.000 You're going to find people that, for whatever reason, they got to where you are in a fucked up way.
01:09:20.000 Curveball, not to change subject, but you think fucking humans are a motherfucker?
01:09:25.000 Watch National Geographic for a little bit.
01:09:27.000 Oh yeah.
01:09:28.000 Mother Nature is a motherfucker.
01:09:31.000 Yeah.
01:09:31.000 To another level, man.
01:09:33.000 Oh yeah, dude.
01:09:34.000 Is this live?
01:09:35.000 I got it well.
01:09:36.000 We got it?
01:09:36.000 Yeah, I have it.
01:09:38.000 It's done now, so we can start it over.
01:09:39.000 The whole thing's done?
01:09:40.000 Yeah.
01:09:40.000 The entire event?
01:09:41.000 They're getting ready to start it back up at 8 o'clock Pacific Time.
01:09:43.000 For Cali, West Coast?
01:09:45.000 Yeah, we can go back and watch this on DBR. Well, let's watch it now.
01:09:47.000 So we can start it wherever you want.
01:09:48.000 Bring it!
01:09:49.000 Bring it.
01:09:50.000 So Joe Schilling already fought?
01:09:52.000 Yeah, the whole thing's done.
01:09:53.000 Wow, that's crazy.
01:09:54.000 It's not even 8 o'clock.
01:09:56.000 Yeah, it's like a four-hour event.
01:09:57.000 But Denver...
01:09:58.000 It's in Denver.
01:09:59.000 That's weird.
01:10:00.000 They're only an hour.
01:10:01.000 Okay, well, let's see it.
01:10:04.000 I should probably start with the main card, though, right?
01:10:05.000 Or do you want to watch the four hours?
01:10:06.000 Yeah, well, we can do whatever the fuck we want now.
01:10:09.000 We got power, Jamie.
01:10:10.000 Yeah, dawg.
01:10:11.000 Glory Kickboxing.
01:10:13.000 This podcast is going to morph into a fight companion because my good friend Joe Schilling is fighting on that card and he's in the main event against Jason Willness who's a bad motherfucker from Holland.
01:10:26.000 Two really, really good kickboxers in both world championship level.
01:10:31.000 Joe Schilling, of course, he's been world champion.
01:10:35.000 He beat Artem Levin, who's the current Glory world champion.
01:10:39.000 He won that fucking crazy four-man tournament.
01:10:42.000 Crazy.
01:10:43.000 Artem Levin, man, those guys, they had to fight, was it three times or four times in a day?
01:10:48.000 Three times, right?
01:10:48.000 Three times.
01:10:50.000 Horrible kickboxing fights.
01:10:52.000 He had some rough fights.
01:10:54.000 Oh, yeah, man.
01:10:55.000 The first one.
01:10:56.000 Oof.
01:10:57.000 With Simon Marcus, where it went to the fourth round.
01:11:00.000 At three rounds, they were a draw, so they went to a fourth round, and Schilling knocked him out in the fourth round.
01:11:05.000 It was fucking crazy.
01:11:08.000 That was round one.
01:11:10.000 Can we get some volume, Jamie?
01:11:11.000 I don't think...
01:11:12.000 Where do you want me to start?
01:11:14.000 This is one of the early ones.
01:11:17.000 This is just the whole four-hour event.
01:11:18.000 I've got to figure out where the event starts.
01:11:20.000 Four hours, Jesus Christ.
01:11:22.000 That's a lot of chaos.
01:11:24.000 Let's get this screen over here.
01:11:27.000 Give us the data.
01:11:30.000 You can't do that with this.
01:11:32.000 You can't?
01:11:33.000 I'm using the computer for the video.
01:11:35.000 Oh, that's right.
01:11:39.000 Kevin Von Nostrand.
01:11:42.000 A lot of Denver boys on this card being in Denver.
01:11:44.000 This is a tough place to fight.
01:11:46.000 Denver can be tricky.
01:11:47.000 When you're, well, not like Mexico City.
01:11:50.000 Mexico City is the trickiest of tricky.
01:11:52.000 That's why it's going to be interesting to see the Cain Velasquez Verdun rematch.
01:11:55.000 In Brazil?
01:11:56.000 Yeah.
01:11:57.000 Are they going to do it in Brazil?
01:11:58.000 I don't think that's confirmed.
01:11:59.000 Is that confirmed?
01:12:00.000 I'm pretty sure it's confirmed.
01:12:01.000 I feel like you would know better than me.
01:12:03.000 Well, I don't think it is, honestly.
01:12:05.000 I feel like it is.
01:12:06.000 I talked to Javier Mendez.
01:12:08.000 How long ago?
01:12:09.000 Javier Mendez the other day.
01:12:10.000 Okay.
01:12:11.000 It's a couple days ago.
01:12:13.000 Man, I thought I was in my show.
01:12:14.000 I hear Mauro Ranallo!
01:12:17.000 I like his commentary on these events.
01:12:20.000 Me too.
01:12:20.000 He's great.
01:12:20.000 He's gotten so good from doing Showtime, boxing, doing the Floyd Mayweather fights.
01:12:24.000 He's really, really good.
01:12:26.000 He's excellent.
01:12:26.000 I love the Showtime crew.
01:12:28.000 Yeah.
01:12:28.000 This feller with the tattoo on his back trained with us in Denver at Grudge, J-Ho.
01:12:33.000 I like that tattoo.
01:12:34.000 That's dope.
01:12:35.000 It's American as fuck, son!
01:12:37.000 Super American.
01:12:38.000 Got a goddamn John American flag on his back!
01:12:42.000 You were talking about nature, being a motherfucker, watching the...
01:12:46.000 Bro!
01:12:47.000 Oh my god, I had to turn it off, man.
01:12:49.000 I don't do well seeing animals die.
01:12:51.000 Horrible shit.
01:12:52.000 Horrible shit, man.
01:12:53.000 Yeah.
01:12:53.000 I saw this mountain goat getting chased by a snow leopard.
01:12:56.000 Snow leopard chased him all the way down the cliff.
01:12:59.000 Grabbed him by the ass, about to eat him anus first.
01:13:01.000 He got away.
01:13:03.000 Instead of dealing with death and the fucking snow leopard, a fool just jumped in the river, died, committed suicide.
01:13:09.000 Oh my god.
01:13:10.000 Baby deer, just born, and this fucking wild pack of dogs is coming, the mom pieces out.
01:13:16.000 This baby deer can barely stand.
01:13:18.000 Ate, done.
01:13:20.000 It's intense, man.
01:13:21.000 Nature does not fuck around.
01:13:23.000 More than half of all the moose and deer that get killed in Canada, they get killed right after they're born by bears.
01:13:32.000 Dude, I was depressed as fuck.
01:13:34.000 Wolves, coyotes, shit like that, right after they're born.
01:13:36.000 You know, that's a big thing, too, about grain.
01:13:39.000 You know, a lot of people think that they want to live a life where they're not involved in any death, and that's noble.
01:13:47.000 You know, you don't want to cause any animal suffering.
01:13:48.000 I get it.
01:13:49.000 I totally understand that idea.
01:13:51.000 Even though I hunt and even though I eat meat, I totally get why they feel like that, but...
01:13:55.000 There's a reality to commercial grain, and one of the realities of commercial grain is, you know those things, the combines, those things that they churn up, that they cut the wheat with?
01:14:04.000 Those things are indiscriminate.
01:14:05.000 They kill everything that's on the ground.
01:14:07.000 They kill rabbits, and they kill a lot of fawns, too, because fawns, when they're young, when they're newborn, what they like to do is stay put.
01:14:15.000 So if there's anything coming, what they do is they just stay put, and they kind of hide.
01:14:20.000 And they get ground up by the combine.
01:14:22.000 It's super common.
01:14:24.000 Rabbits, rodents, ground nesting birds, all of them get ground up in those things.
01:14:29.000 There's almost no way, unless you're growing your own food and you're growing your own vegetables, And you're there for the whole process.
01:14:37.000 You make your old compost.
01:14:38.000 There's almost no way to leave no footprint.
01:14:40.000 How about that elk you shot you just posted today?
01:14:43.000 What's the deal with that thing?
01:14:44.000 I shot it.
01:14:45.000 What was it?
01:14:45.000 Wednesday morning.
01:14:46.000 5,000 pounds?
01:14:47.000 1,000 pounds?
01:14:49.000 Enormous.
01:14:49.000 It's a big animal.
01:14:50.000 Literally a giant animal.
01:14:51.000 I'll show you another picture that's even more crazy of it.
01:14:53.000 What did you shoot him with?
01:14:54.000 A bazooka?
01:14:55.000 A bow and arrow.
01:14:56.000 Straight bow and arrow?
01:14:57.000 Yeah.
01:14:58.000 Yeah, man.
01:14:59.000 A lot of work went into that.
01:15:00.000 A lot of skill with a bow and arrow.
01:15:02.000 Yeah, that for sure.
01:15:02.000 I respect a bow and arrow more.
01:15:04.000 Well, it's a lot of dangers.
01:15:07.000 Look at that.
01:15:08.000 You gotta look at how big it is when it's hanging off of a tree when we're cleaning it.
01:15:14.000 You kind of get a sense of how big it really is.
01:15:16.000 That's how we got into a truck too.
01:15:18.000 He's huge.
01:15:19.000 Yeah.
01:15:20.000 He's probably...
01:15:21.000 It's a thousand pound animal.
01:15:22.000 It's enormous.
01:15:23.000 And they get bigger.
01:15:23.000 There's some of it like twelve, even fourteen hundred pounds.
01:15:26.000 They're really enormous ones, especially at Tohono Ranch.
01:15:29.000 And by the way, they're not even the biggest.
01:15:31.000 Moose are even bigger than them.
01:15:33.000 Moose are giant, dude.
01:15:34.000 There's moose in the Yukon that are eighteen hundred pounds.
01:15:37.000 Dude, that thing is fucking huge.
01:15:39.000 Imagine something twice as big as that.
01:15:41.000 That's a moose in the Yukon.
01:15:42.000 Literally twice as big.
01:15:43.000 Then what do you guys hang it, then you and your friend cut it?
01:15:46.000 Well, first you back the truck to it, and then they put it into the back of a pickup truck.
01:15:51.000 And then we took it to a cooler, like a walk-in cooler, and then the real work begins.
01:15:58.000 Start quartering it and taking pieces off of it.
01:16:02.000 And you brought it home?
01:16:03.000 I brought most of it home.
01:16:05.000 Some of it is at a butcher shop that's getting...
01:16:08.000 Turn into sausages and shit.
01:16:10.000 Want some elk sausage?
01:16:11.000 Yeah, I'm down with some elk sausage.
01:16:13.000 High protein, son.
01:16:14.000 Might wake up in the middle of the night with predator dreams, though.
01:16:17.000 Dude, I'm not mad about that.
01:16:19.000 When you shoot a thing like that, how long does it take for it to die?
01:16:22.000 That was pretty instant.
01:16:23.000 It was a perfect scenario.
01:16:25.000 It was dead within a minute.
01:16:27.000 But, you know, that's one of the things about the discipline of...
01:16:31.000 Of getting better at dealing with the nerves, getting better at aiming, making sure your archery skills are on point, or your rifle skills for that matter.
01:16:41.000 Like rifle, you could injure an animal rifle hunting too.
01:16:45.000 Super, super important that you work really hard on it.
01:16:48.000 It's also just so fucking nerve-wracking, man.
01:16:50.000 Really?
01:16:51.000 Oh my god.
01:16:51.000 Well, this is my thing though, with that fucking giant elk, if, let's say you nick it, you miss, or whatever.
01:16:56.000 And it gets around at you?
01:16:57.000 It heads your way?
01:16:58.000 It's your ass.
01:16:59.000 Really?
01:17:00.000 Yeah, you're fucked.
01:17:00.000 If it decides to, oh yeah.
01:17:02.000 I'll slap that shit off.
01:17:03.000 Oh, you think you will.
01:17:04.000 Do you see the antlers?
01:17:06.000 I did see the antlers.
01:17:07.000 Dude, it's a tree.
01:17:08.000 It's got a tree growing up.
01:17:09.000 I'll go behind a tree, bro.
01:17:10.000 I don't get why it's so tough.
01:17:12.000 If you could go behind a tree, you could pull it off.
01:17:15.000 Just keep going around the tree, old school style.
01:17:17.000 If you got stuck in an open area for some reason, He got to you first.
01:17:22.000 You're getting fucked up.
01:17:22.000 You're getting fucked up.
01:17:24.000 It happens.
01:17:25.000 It's not that common because they're usually scared of people.
01:17:27.000 They try to get the fuck away from you.
01:17:28.000 Where it really happens is more with bears.
01:17:30.000 With bears, it can really happen for sure.
01:17:33.000 And moose, right?
01:17:33.000 Aren't moose aggressive as shit?
01:17:35.000 Well, they're definitely aggressive if you wound them.
01:17:38.000 Rinella, Steve Rinella, my friend from that show Meat Eater, he got run over by a fucking moose on his show.
01:17:44.000 Dude, it was crazy.
01:17:46.000 He told me about it after the fact, and I watched it on TV. Like, the way he described it, it sounded crazy, but then watching it, you're like, oh my god.
01:17:53.000 He shot the moose, the moose went down, he thought the moose was dead.
01:17:57.000 Came up on it, and then the moose got up, and he went, oh shit, he's alive.
01:18:02.000 And he went to shoot him again, and the gun misfired.
01:18:06.000 Which is so rare.
01:18:07.000 Yeah.
01:18:08.000 It's so rare that you pull the trigger and nothing happens.
01:18:10.000 So he had to rechamber another round.
01:18:12.000 And in the process, this moose comes behind him and sends him flying.
01:18:16.000 And there was blood on him and he couldn't figure out if it's his blood or the moose's blood.
01:18:20.000 He's like, he's feeling his body to see if he's been punctured.
01:18:22.000 And he got nailed by a big ass animal.
01:18:25.000 One for the moose.
01:18:26.000 One for the moose.
01:18:27.000 So did the moose get away?
01:18:28.000 No.
01:18:29.000 Of course not.
01:18:29.000 No, no, no, no.
01:18:30.000 My buddy Ryan was there.
01:18:31.000 Ryan Callahan put a bullet into him.
01:18:34.000 What happened?
01:18:34.000 We lose our feed?
01:18:37.000 Let's move ahead anyway.
01:18:41.000 So, you know, nature being dangerous, nature being ruthless.
01:18:52.000 We're so insulated from it.
01:18:55.000 That's why people have these beautiful ideas of what animals are and how people fit into the food chain.
01:19:02.000 We're so used to getting our dirty work done for us.
01:19:04.000 This is true.
01:19:05.000 You got to bring me some time, man.
01:19:07.000 Oh, I got you.
01:19:08.000 You want to come?
01:19:08.000 I'm sending Everlast out.
01:19:10.000 Everlast, totally unrelated.
01:19:12.000 He didn't even know that I got back from hunting.
01:19:16.000 And he sent me a text saying that he wants to hunt.
01:19:19.000 And he wants to find someone that will take him through it.
01:19:23.000 And so I set him up with this guy, Brian Meadows, who was my guide this past weekend, or one of my guides.
01:19:31.000 And he's one of the guys that works there.
01:19:34.000 There's a bunch of really good guides that work at this one ranch.
01:19:37.000 And he's going to do a thing with him where he takes them out, shows them how to shoot, shows them how to sight in the rifle, and then they're going to go hunt pigs.
01:19:47.000 How long is this?
01:19:48.000 Pigs?
01:19:49.000 A couple days, yeah.
01:19:50.000 Fuck, man.
01:19:50.000 What, you don't like pigs?
01:19:51.000 I want something a little more dangerous, you know what I'm saying?
01:19:54.000 You ever see a wild boar before?
01:19:56.000 Yeah.
01:19:56.000 Dude, they have wild boars on this ranch.
01:19:59.000 In Texas?
01:19:59.000 Tusks, no.
01:20:00.000 Tohono Ranch.
01:20:01.000 It's up north.
01:20:02.000 North of here, like an hour and a half.
01:20:03.000 Not far at all.
01:20:04.000 They have some photos.
01:20:05.000 I'll show you some after the show.
01:20:07.000 Yeah.
01:20:07.000 Ridiculous wild boars.
01:20:07.000 I just need to be a little scared, you know what I'm saying?
01:20:09.000 Otherwise, it's not fun.
01:20:10.000 Wild boars sound like monsters.
01:20:12.000 We were there, the first time I was ever there, we were passing by these really thick grasses, like high, tall grasses, like weeds and grasses.
01:20:22.000 It was like four or five feet tall.
01:20:24.000 You couldn't see inside of it, but you knew there were pigs in there.
01:20:26.000 And so we're walking down this dirt road really slow and quiet, so they don't even know we're there.
01:20:33.000 And we hear them fighting, like, wah!
01:20:37.000 It sounds like there's demons in there tearing each other apart.
01:20:40.000 They're fighting for some reason.
01:20:43.000 They're making all these crazy boar noises.
01:20:45.000 I was freaked out, dude.
01:20:47.000 I was definitely freaked out by wild boars.
01:20:51.000 Did you see that movie, that TV show Game of Thrones?
01:20:53.000 Yeah.
01:20:54.000 The fucking king got killed by a wild boar.
01:20:56.000 Giant boar.
01:20:56.000 That's how he got him.
01:20:57.000 I've seen like one Game of Thrones.
01:20:58.000 Oh, damn.
01:20:59.000 That dude just got dropped.
01:21:01.000 We don't even know who's fighting.
01:21:02.000 Who's the guy in the orange trunks?
01:21:04.000 That's the Denver kid.
01:21:05.000 Can't remember his name though.
01:21:06.000 This is over.
01:21:09.000 Yeah, he's jacked up.
01:21:11.000 Damn, that kid's good.
01:21:12.000 Little hairy armpits though, huh?
01:21:14.000 Yeah, you gotta trim those up, man.
01:21:16.000 That's old school.
01:21:16.000 I like that.
01:21:17.000 I like that.
01:21:18.000 What does this bush look like?
01:21:20.000 Probably ridiculous.
01:21:21.000 See that dick, my man.
01:21:23.000 So you see that doctor in the ring?
01:21:26.000 They just show him with glasses?
01:21:28.000 Check this story out.
01:21:30.000 There's Bang.
01:21:31.000 There's Bang.
01:21:32.000 No, that doctor on the left.
01:21:34.000 Check this out.
01:21:35.000 Uh oh.
01:21:35.000 You gonna get in trouble right now?
01:21:37.000 No, not at all.
01:21:37.000 Okay.
01:21:38.000 Horrible story though.
01:21:39.000 Jamie, do we have any more of these things?
01:21:41.000 We have regular coffee, don't we?
01:21:42.000 Didn't you make regular coffee?
01:21:43.000 I used some myself.
01:21:43.000 Just coffee, no butter, no bullshit.
01:21:46.000 So that doctor, right?
01:21:47.000 He goes on a family vacation.
01:21:49.000 Wife, three kids.
01:21:51.000 Peep it.
01:21:52.000 Wife, three kids, and fucking Subaru Outback, whatever the hell it was.
01:21:55.000 They go, he's in Wyoming, they go, don't drive, there's a flash flood warning.
01:22:00.000 He goes, ah, fuck it, we can get through it.
01:22:03.000 Drives, flash flood warning through this thing, takes the car over.
01:22:07.000 Entire family dies except for him.
01:22:10.000 Oh my god.
01:22:11.000 Three kids.
01:22:12.000 Three little kids and the wife.
01:22:13.000 Oh my god.
01:22:16.000 I'm just full of fucking...
01:22:17.000 You're the worst today.
01:22:18.000 Who brought the good news beer?
01:22:19.000 Hey man, I didn't know they were going to show the fucking guy.
01:22:22.000 Oh Jesus, you didn't have to tell the whole story.
01:22:24.000 It's intense, right?
01:22:25.000 That's pretty intense.
01:22:26.000 So then Shane Carwin and a bunch of us did like a fundraiser for him.
01:22:30.000 Ugh, horrible man.
01:22:31.000 Again, nature is a cruel, cruel bitch.
01:22:34.000 Nature does not give a fuck.
01:22:36.000 We found an elk that got murked by another elk.
01:22:39.000 Damn it.
01:22:39.000 Elk on Elk crime?
01:22:40.000 Elk on Elk crime.
01:22:41.000 That's rare, right?
01:22:42.000 Nope.
01:22:43.000 We're all super common.
01:22:44.000 They fight to the death sometimes.
01:22:46.000 God, dog.
01:22:46.000 They stab each other with their giant antlers.
01:22:48.000 That's what the antlers are for.
01:22:49.000 But occasionally, you know, sometimes they just get scarred up and they have cuts on their foot.
01:22:54.000 Yeah, I've seen them like headbutting shit on TV. Maybe rams, because they tangle antlers, like deer and elk and moose, they tangle antlers.
01:23:03.000 That's what the antlers are for.
01:23:05.000 I'm trying to suck on those antlers for that, what is it, IGF-1 or some shit people were doing?
01:23:09.000 You want the velvet.
01:23:10.000 Yeah, I want to suck on that velvet.
01:23:11.000 Yeah, the velvet, deer velvet and elk velvet, it was like a real hot property a while ago.
01:23:19.000 Super hot.
01:23:19.000 It was such a hot property that what they were doing was at the Sevier.
01:23:25.000 There were farms in Alberta where they were growing this shit.
01:23:29.000 They were growing elk just to use their velvet.
01:23:32.000 And then the process, for whatever reason, became less and less valuable to people.
01:23:39.000 And the amount, that stevia is super weak.
01:23:43.000 Just pour a bunch in there like it's sugar.
01:23:44.000 That was like the worst stevia.
01:23:46.000 Jamie got it from the dollar store.
01:23:47.000 God damn it, Jamie.
01:23:52.000 So this guy spent like a million dollars investing in this elk farm thinking he's going to cash in on this deer velvet.
01:24:00.000 On the spraying shit?
01:24:01.000 Yeah, from the elk.
01:24:03.000 And nobody gives a fuck.
01:24:05.000 That's a terrible idea.
01:24:06.000 Well, he thought it was going to be a gangbuster business, but the business dropped right after he bought it.
01:24:10.000 Is this the same guy that opened up a fucking all-black yoga studio in Seattle?
01:24:14.000 No.
01:24:18.000 Oh, those poor fucks.
01:24:20.000 They're getting attacked.
01:24:21.000 They're getting attacked online, too.
01:24:23.000 Damn, they showed this fool's record, said three and five.
01:24:25.000 That's a weird thing, you know?
01:24:26.000 That's tough.
01:24:27.000 Like, that's bang on bang, you know?
01:24:30.000 Bang bang on bang.
01:24:31.000 He's that guy that, um...
01:24:34.000 This guy's tough, too, man.
01:24:35.000 That guy's three and five, they said.
01:24:36.000 He's tough.
01:24:37.000 The guy bang on bang is the guy that, um...
01:24:41.000 What is his name?
01:24:44.000 Um...
01:24:46.000 Who did he fight?
01:24:47.000 He fought somebody recently and had a really good fight.
01:24:49.000 I'm trying to remember.
01:24:51.000 But he fought Raymond Daniels, and Raymond Daniels hit him with that spinning, flying 360 sidekick to the face.
01:24:57.000 Love it.
01:24:58.000 Yeah, he jumped with the front leg sidekick, like a flying sidekick, and then he touches you with that and spins and clipped him right on the chin and sent him to La La Land.
01:25:09.000 Oof.
01:25:10.000 But Embank's tough as fuck, man.
01:25:11.000 The other guy I think is from L.A. I think he's a, uh, he might be from the yard.
01:25:17.000 I think.
01:25:18.000 Oh shit, nice knee.
01:25:19.000 How much do these boys make?
01:25:21.000 Not that much money, man.
01:25:22.000 I'm sure Shilling makes good money.
01:25:24.000 Is Shilling making good money tonight, being a headliner?
01:25:27.000 Does anyone know or no?
01:25:28.000 I don't know.
01:25:28.000 We're guessing.
01:25:29.000 I'm just guessing.
01:25:30.000 You know what?
01:25:31.000 I just root for glory.
01:25:33.000 I love kickboxing.
01:25:34.000 I've always loved kickboxing.
01:25:35.000 I love Muay Thai too.
01:25:37.000 I root for lion fight too.
01:25:40.000 I almost watch every lion fight, every glory.
01:25:44.000 I watch every one of these.
01:25:46.000 Me too, man.
01:25:47.000 I don't miss much.
01:25:48.000 Especially Lion Fight.
01:25:49.000 I like Lion Fight because they use elbows.
01:25:51.000 I like Lion Fight because a lot of times there's a lot of new guys on there and they go for fucking broke, man.
01:25:57.000 They seem to get a lot of high-level Thai guys, too.
01:26:00.000 Correct.
01:26:00.000 And they fly them in against an American or something.
01:26:02.000 Joe Nawad.
01:26:02.000 Have you seen Nawad fight?
01:26:04.000 Jesus Christ.
01:26:06.000 He's nasty.
01:26:06.000 I know we've said it before, that TIFF time bomb, man.
01:26:08.000 She's very good.
01:26:10.000 If we could just teach her some takedown defense, she got one on 115. Yeah, she's very good.
01:26:14.000 Enjoy that, ladies.
01:26:15.000 Her vs.
01:26:16.000 Joanna?
01:26:16.000 She talked some shit about Joanna's stand-up, too.
01:26:18.000 She said she was basic.
01:26:19.000 Ooh, basic bitch!
01:26:22.000 We got something.
01:26:23.000 Look at me trying to start something.
01:26:25.000 What are you having?
01:26:26.000 Diet Coke, bitch?
01:26:27.000 Basic bitch.
01:26:30.000 Stupid basic bitch.
01:26:32.000 What do you got?
01:26:32.000 A fucking blueberry muffin with your coffee, you basic bitch?
01:26:36.000 Is there anything worse than called a basic bitch if you're a girl?
01:26:39.000 It's pretty ruthless, man.
01:26:42.000 Well, being called anything.
01:26:44.000 Having someone define you.
01:26:46.000 But having someone limited defining you like that.
01:26:49.000 Define you.
01:26:50.000 You're limited.
01:26:51.000 It's hard.
01:26:52.000 It's hard out there.
01:26:53.000 It's hard out there.
01:26:54.000 It's the worst.
01:26:56.000 Yeah, man.
01:26:57.000 It's the worst.
01:26:57.000 Enjoy your coffee, you basic bitch.
01:26:59.000 But for a girl, though, does a girl have to be more than basic, or can she be basic and hot?
01:27:06.000 That's tough.
01:27:08.000 Well, see the hot factor, you know?
01:27:11.000 Well, yeah, man.
01:27:12.000 It's like, that's nature right there.
01:27:14.000 That is, man.
01:27:15.000 People want to hate on it.
01:27:16.000 Nature likes that hip-to-waist ratio.
01:27:18.000 Hell yeah, we do.
01:27:19.000 Nature's a big fan of titties.
01:27:21.000 They're universally accepted.
01:27:23.000 It's not like there's a place in the world where you have a perfect set of tits and people go, ugh, get those out of here.
01:27:28.000 There's not a single country where men don't look at juicy tits and go, oh yeah.
01:27:33.000 They're totally useless.
01:27:34.000 Juicy tits.
01:27:35.000 They don't do anything for you.
01:27:36.000 They don't make sense.
01:27:37.000 They don't increase pleasure unless you're fucking them, unless you're titty fucking.
01:27:40.000 But you see them and your brain goes, oh yeah.
01:27:43.000 It's weird, isn't it?
01:27:45.000 It's nature.
01:27:45.000 There's bags of fat.
01:27:47.000 Bags of fat with nipples that you can suck on, and if they have weight to them, and the girl's riding you, and you can hoist them up and suck on them.
01:27:55.000 Oh, everything gets so exciting.
01:27:57.000 Why?
01:27:58.000 Because of nature.
01:27:59.000 They do nothing.
01:27:59.000 They do nothing.
01:28:01.000 Nature wants you to have a wife that has some big ol' titties so that when your kids need breast milk, these titties are down to produce.
01:28:09.000 Yeah.
01:28:09.000 Big ass titties?
01:28:11.000 Dudes are like, yes.
01:28:12.000 You need fat, you need big hips and fat asses and legs that look like they can run and jump so you have kids that inherit those traits.
01:28:20.000 Yeah, man.
01:28:21.000 If you see a girl with weird hips and her ass is flat and she walks with a stumble, you're like, oh, no, no, no, no, no.
01:28:26.000 Let's beat it, basic bitch.
01:28:29.000 I call them basic bitches.
01:28:30.000 Beat it with your flat feet.
01:28:32.000 Your flat feet.
01:28:33.000 Flat ass.
01:28:34.000 Why can't you walk straight?
01:28:36.000 Flat ass?
01:28:37.000 There's nothing worse than a flat ass.
01:28:39.000 Yeah, I don't mind if a girl has small breasts.
01:28:41.000 No, we'll figure it out.
01:28:42.000 There's a lot of really hot girls that have small breasts.
01:28:44.000 We'll have money.
01:28:44.000 We'll figure that out.
01:28:45.000 Well, it's not even that.
01:28:46.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:28:47.000 If he gets serious enough, I'll cover this.
01:28:49.000 Would you, though?
01:28:50.000 Would you want to?
01:28:51.000 100%.
01:28:53.000 Hey!
01:28:54.000 Shop sponsor!
01:28:55.000 You take that over...
01:28:57.000 What would you take, though?
01:28:59.000 If you had the option between a girl with a really nice ass and nice legs and small, natural breasts, or a girl with a pretty decent ass, pretty decent legs, but big, fake titties.
01:29:09.000 Bro, ass all day, because I can fix the titties.
01:29:12.000 Because they haven't...
01:29:13.000 What if she didn't want to fix the titties?
01:29:15.000 What if that's a deal-breaker?
01:29:16.000 I'm going to have to move on.
01:29:18.000 Wow.
01:29:19.000 I'm just kidding.
01:29:19.000 I'm not that fucking mean.
01:29:21.000 You are not kidding.
01:29:21.000 You just said...
01:29:22.000 I'm not kidding if you see my girl.
01:29:23.000 She looks like she's from planet Pluto.
01:29:26.000 But the thing...
01:29:27.000 It's so fucked up.
01:29:29.000 But the thing is, they haven't figured out a good way to make ass implants.
01:29:33.000 Like, you see a fake ass?
01:29:34.000 It's the worst thing you've ever seen.
01:29:36.000 There's a difference, man.
01:29:37.000 There's a difference.
01:29:38.000 The ass thing is like...
01:29:40.000 There's factors, right?
01:29:43.000 The titty factor is like the nurturing factor.
01:29:47.000 Like, that's the attraction.
01:29:48.000 That she'll be good at nurturing.
01:29:49.000 She has breasts for...
01:29:51.000 But the ass thing is like an athletic body.
01:29:54.000 It's like an exciting body.
01:29:56.000 Oh, Embang's getting fucked up.
01:29:58.000 This dude who's three and five is teeing off.
01:30:01.000 He said, bitch, I'm four and five, you basic bitch.
01:30:03.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:30:03.000 He's four and five tonight.
01:30:05.000 Four and five, motherfucker.
01:30:07.000 I like the fact...
01:30:07.000 Oh!
01:30:08.000 Oh, damn.
01:30:08.000 I like the fact...
01:30:09.000 He's done.
01:30:09.000 He's done.
01:30:10.000 He's done.
01:30:10.000 I like the fact that they throw knees.
01:30:13.000 I do like that.
01:30:14.000 I'm glad they can still throw knees.
01:30:15.000 And I think they're allowed to hold only with one hand, though.
01:30:18.000 That's it.
01:30:18.000 This fight's over.
01:30:19.000 He's taking it.
01:30:19.000 He's done, done.
01:30:20.000 Yeah, let's go ahead and call this a day, everybody.
01:30:22.000 Wow, he's standing up.
01:30:23.000 Worst knee I've ever seen.
01:30:24.000 Overeem.
01:30:25.000 Fujita.
01:30:25.000 Oh.
01:30:25.000 Remember that one?
01:30:26.000 I thought he killed him.
01:30:27.000 Overeem killed a guy.
01:30:28.000 Overeem Teixeira.
01:30:29.000 Did you ever see that one?
01:30:30.000 Yes.
01:30:31.000 Ever time Teixeira with the crazy dreadlocks?
01:30:33.000 Yeah, man.
01:30:33.000 He hits with a knee and that dude was like he went down like he was dead.
01:30:36.000 Dude, Fujita, he was in the ring like, there it goes, faces in cave, like he was so fucked up.
01:30:41.000 Yeah.
01:30:42.000 And that's Uber Reem.
01:30:43.000 We're not talking about normal Overeem now, where it's like, oh, we don't know if he's going to win.
01:30:47.000 We're talking about fucking Japan Overeem.
01:30:49.000 Good luck with that, everybody.
01:30:51.000 Japan Overeem, once he hit that, like, K-1 Grand Prix heavyweight status.
01:30:55.000 What?
01:30:56.000 Yeah.
01:30:57.000 The fuck is going on?
01:30:59.000 They dug up Nazis that had special science.
01:31:03.000 Just some shit.
01:31:05.000 They brought it into the lab.
01:31:08.000 Well, this dude fought very well.
01:31:11.000 What is his name?
01:31:13.000 Do we know Jamie?
01:31:14.000 Good for him, man.
01:31:16.000 Yeah.
01:31:16.000 I've seen this dude fight before.
01:31:17.000 He's good.
01:31:18.000 That was like a big victory.
01:31:19.000 That was very impressive.
01:31:21.000 Ombang took a beating.
01:31:22.000 There's that doctor, bro.
01:31:23.000 Looks like Ari Shafir.
01:31:24.000 Got his ear pierced.
01:31:26.000 Well...
01:31:26.000 Maybe he's wiling out.
01:31:28.000 I'm sure he is.
01:31:29.000 He's got some weird chains on his neck, too.
01:31:31.000 Open chest.
01:31:33.000 Hey, he's trying to make it happen.
01:31:35.000 How dare you?
01:31:36.000 How dare you?
01:31:37.000 How dare you?
01:31:38.000 Dude, if I was like Joe Rogan, Scrooge, McDuckrich, I'm hiring scientists to build fake asses like no other.
01:31:47.000 You don't want a fake ass, though.
01:31:48.000 What happens if a girl has a flat ass?
01:31:50.000 Tough life.
01:31:51.000 It's hard out there.
01:31:53.000 You don't breed.
01:31:54.000 Just like what happens if, you know, in the wild, what happens if you have unfavorable characteristics?
01:31:59.000 You get ate up, ass first.
01:32:01.000 That's how it goes.
01:32:02.000 Bro, but what if we could prevent that?
01:32:04.000 It's the way of the world.
01:32:04.000 It's the way of the world.
01:32:05.000 But you can't prevent that with a piece of plastic.
01:32:07.000 The way they're going to be prevented, no, no, no.
01:32:09.000 You can give the illusion that you're preventing it, but you know that ass is fake.
01:32:12.000 It's the same thing with lips.
01:32:14.000 Lips, you can't do to lips what you did to tits.
01:32:16.000 They found a crazy loophole with tits, and it works.
01:32:19.000 They snuck in, they snuck in with the tit implants, and everybody's like, well, hey, we could do it there, we could do it everywhere.
01:32:25.000 But you can't.
01:32:26.000 It only works on women's tits.
01:32:28.000 It doesn't work on guys' tits.
01:32:29.000 Dude, I'm not mad at the women's...
01:32:30.000 If a guy gets tit implants...
01:32:31.000 Women's lips.
01:32:32.000 Girls don't want that shit.
01:32:33.000 Some women's lips, I'm not mad at them.
01:32:35.000 They get a couple...
01:32:37.000 Okay, we're going to have to talk off the air.
01:32:38.000 We are.
01:32:39.000 We really are.
01:32:40.000 This is nonsense.
01:32:41.000 This is craziness, bro.
01:32:42.000 Who is this young gentleman here?
01:32:44.000 I've seen him fight before.
01:32:45.000 Not a full crowd yet.
01:32:47.000 This isn't the main card, is it?
01:32:49.000 No, no, no.
01:32:49.000 Robert Thomas, Jeffrey.
01:32:51.000 This is early in the card.
01:32:52.000 This is early.
01:32:54.000 22. Youngster.
01:32:55.000 My boy on the right is jacked at 34. I think he's flexing.
01:33:00.000 Makes sense, though.
01:33:01.000 Don't you think he's flexing?
01:33:02.000 He's got a beautiful beard, though, and a mohawk.
01:33:04.000 That's rare in fighters.
01:33:05.000 He looks fresh off the set of 300. Look at him.
01:33:10.000 I think they're going to fix it with gene therapy, dude.
01:33:12.000 That's the real fix.
01:33:14.000 This plastic they shove in your ass and make your ass stick out isn't fooling anybody.
01:33:18.000 The same thing with your lips.
01:33:19.000 Like, why are your lips bigger than all the surrounding tissue?
01:33:22.000 That doesn't make any sense.
01:33:23.000 They fool me with the lips.
01:33:25.000 They fool me, bro.
01:33:26.000 Might be a little bit basic.
01:33:27.000 You know what?
01:33:28.000 I might be a basic bitch.
01:33:32.000 I like lips.
01:33:33.000 I think girls' lips are really important.
01:33:36.000 When you're kissing a girl and you feel...
01:33:38.000 Fuck yes, for many reasons.
01:33:39.000 But if you're feeling a rubber thing under there, I can't think that that would be good.
01:33:44.000 It just looks weird, too.
01:33:46.000 Not if it's done right.
01:33:48.000 Okay.
01:33:48.000 Maybe I'm wrong.
01:33:50.000 There's a lot of good doctors out there.
01:33:51.000 I hope so.
01:33:52.000 But I think that what you're seeing now is like...
01:33:56.000 It's the beginning.
01:33:58.000 When they thought they could put feathers on people and have them jump off cliffs and it didn't work out.
01:34:04.000 It's a horrible idea.
01:34:05.000 No, well, eventually it became an airplane.
01:34:07.000 Like, somebody had to keep trying with that thought until they got it right, and now, you know, you get on a Virgin Airlines jet to Boston, and you fucking got the beautiful red mood lighting, you have yourself a champagne.
01:34:19.000 It all started from some asshole with a bunch of feathers who thought he could jump off a cliff.
01:34:23.000 True.
01:34:23.000 It has to start there.
01:34:25.000 Right now, these girls that you're looking at with these crazy fake lips and these plastic plates in their asses that make their ass tick out, what they are is the dude with the feather jumping off the cliff.
01:34:36.000 And their unfortunate demise when they get tangled up in the branches of the tree below, their unfortunate demise will make people innovate.
01:34:44.000 True.
01:34:44.000 I'm with you, man.
01:34:45.000 I hope I'm around for that.
01:34:47.000 What do we got here, Jamie?
01:34:49.000 Oh, damn.
01:34:50.000 This dude from Canada just landed a beautiful knee to the body.
01:34:55.000 So we're watching these fights.
01:34:56.000 If you're watching these at home, you might not even be able to...
01:35:00.000 There's no way you're going to sync this up.
01:35:02.000 There's no way.
01:35:02.000 But we'll try to sync it up.
01:35:03.000 Once we get to Joe Schilling, stitch him up.
01:35:07.000 Who is a little bit later on the card.
01:35:10.000 Once we get to stitch him up, we'll tell you exactly what time it is, and you can sync this thing up later.
01:35:15.000 This fight's in, I think, McNichols Arena?
01:35:18.000 That's old school, man.
01:35:19.000 Is it?
01:35:20.000 Super old school.
01:35:21.000 Where's McNichols?
01:35:21.000 That's where one of the first UFC's was at.
01:35:23.000 Do you miss Denver at all in any way?
01:35:24.000 You know what?
01:35:25.000 No.
01:35:26.000 Wow.
01:35:26.000 It's weird, right?
01:35:27.000 I go back and I feel like I'm in a country western, man.
01:35:31.000 Denver people are going to hate me, but it's whatever, bro.
01:35:34.000 It's true.
01:35:35.000 It's my favorite spot.
01:35:36.000 Oh, there's some great spots, and I have great family and friends, but you could not pay me to move back there, man.
01:35:42.000 Really?
01:35:42.000 I will never leave L.A. It's my number one choice.
01:35:46.000 Comedy works.
01:35:47.000 Outside of California, Colorado's my number one choice.
01:35:51.000 You used to live there.
01:35:52.000 Yep.
01:35:53.000 Evergreen, Boulder, or Denver.
01:35:54.000 Those are my three spots.
01:35:55.000 You love that nature shit.
01:35:57.000 I love that nature shit.
01:35:58.000 I don't, bro.
01:35:58.000 You don't like it?
01:35:59.000 I'll hunt with you, kill some shit, but then I want to go back to Marina Del Rey.
01:36:03.000 Jump in my Porsche and do some weird shit.
01:36:05.000 As I've gotten older, I appreciate nature way more and more.
01:36:09.000 I feel like it's something that I just didn't appreciate enough until I got older.
01:36:14.000 I think when I was younger, I was always concentrating entirely on Doing whatever I'm trying to do, whether it's fighting or getting into comedy, getting my career in line, becoming a professional comedian, and then all the things that I've ever done.
01:36:29.000 I've always been concentrated more on them than anything else.
01:36:33.000 And then as I got older, I started, well, what brings me pleasure?
01:36:37.000 I started thinking, like, what do I enjoy being around?
01:36:41.000 And one of the things that I enjoyed being around was beautiful nature, like to see a mountain.
01:36:45.000 Like, I remember...
01:36:47.000 Going to, um...
01:36:49.000 Jesus, I don't know where the fuck it was, like, one of the first...
01:36:52.000 You know what, here, one of the big ones was going to the Aspen Comedy Festival, man.
01:36:56.000 I went to the Aspen Comedy Festival, I want to say, like, 2002?
01:37:00.000 I think it was, like, 2002?
01:37:01.000 And I was in Aspen, and I was driving with this dude who worked for the festival, And he was telling me how he has elk off of his back porch.
01:37:10.000 I didn't know elk screamed.
01:37:11.000 I had no idea.
01:37:12.000 I didn't know a goddamn thing about elk back then.
01:37:14.000 They scream.
01:37:15.000 Elk bugling?
01:37:16.000 You never heard of elk bugling?
01:37:17.000 No, man.
01:37:18.000 I recorded some of it from my trip.
01:37:21.000 This is real shit that happened this week.
01:37:24.000 Hey, Elk, make it easier to kill you.
01:37:26.000 They scream.
01:37:27.000 Oh, they're not easy to kill, man.
01:37:29.000 Especially with a bow.
01:37:30.000 They're hard.
01:37:31.000 But what it is is that they're trying to get some pussy.
01:37:35.000 So they call out to women to let them know that they're ready to fuck.
01:37:40.000 And they also call out to men.
01:37:41.000 They're ready to challenge them.
01:37:43.000 And they do battle.
01:37:44.000 I'll show you some pictures of this dead one that they found.
01:37:47.000 It got stabbed up.
01:37:49.000 He got murked by some other fucking bull.
01:37:51.000 And they're big.
01:37:52.000 These are a thousand pound animals.
01:37:54.000 Just like the one you killed.
01:37:55.000 And bigger.
01:37:55.000 As big as the one I killed.
01:37:57.000 The one that died was bigger than the one I killed.
01:38:00.000 Bigger.
01:38:00.000 Who killed him?
01:38:02.000 Some badass bitch.
01:38:03.000 Listen to this though.
01:38:04.000 This is what it sounds like.
01:38:05.000 I hope it sounds like a grown man yelling.
01:38:10.000 Hold on a second.
01:38:11.000 Here it is.
01:38:12.000 Listen to this.
01:38:17.000 You hear that?
01:38:19.000 That's the guide trying to call them.
01:38:21.000 He's making like a cow call.
01:38:22.000 But listen to the sound that they make when they respond.
01:38:26.000 It's like a monster.
01:38:33.000 That high-pitched shit, that's the guide making the call.
01:38:36.000 Now listen to them.
01:38:42.000 You hear that?
01:38:43.000 It almost sounds like orca whales.
01:38:50.000 Damn.
01:38:51.000 They scream at each other like that.
01:38:54.000 That really loud one was the guide right next to us with the call.
01:39:01.000 That's one of them screaming.
01:39:04.000 Damn.
01:39:05.000 That was an elk.
01:39:11.000 How weird, right?
01:39:12.000 Then do you listen to that and find out where they're at and just destroy them?
01:39:15.000 Well, you've got to sneak up on them.
01:39:16.000 Yeah, but at least you know where they're at.
01:39:18.000 You sneak up on them, and then you hide behind stuff, and you make calls like a cow, so they think they're going to get some pussy.
01:39:26.000 Fucking basic bitch elks.
01:39:30.000 Too easy, man.
01:39:31.000 They come screaming, too, when they come towards you.
01:39:33.000 That's one of the most nerve-wracking parts about it.
01:39:39.000 Because they think they're about to fuck.
01:39:40.000 Exactly.
01:39:41.000 Dick out.
01:39:42.000 They're like, what's up?
01:39:43.000 What's up?
01:39:43.000 They come all over themselves.
01:39:45.000 They piss all over themselves and cum all over themselves.
01:39:47.000 Their whole underside, when you find them and they're rutting, is just covered with cum and piss.
01:39:52.000 They're all wet.
01:39:53.000 They're looking for a good time.
01:39:54.000 They're partying.
01:39:56.000 Fuck, man.
01:39:56.000 You guys just, hey, what's up?
01:39:58.000 Oh, raging boner?
01:39:59.000 Boom.
01:40:00.000 Dead, bro.
01:40:01.000 It is rude.
01:40:03.000 But it's also how mountain lions find them too.
01:40:06.000 When we were in Colorado, one of the guides I was with told me that they had found this mountain lion on top of this elk and they found it by following the path that it took once it dragged the elk.
01:40:22.000 So what he found was like you could see the mountain lion footprints and then you could see the elk footprints and then they collide and then there's no more mountain lion footprints.
01:40:31.000 Because the mountain lion is riding the elk's back.
01:40:34.000 So you've got this 1,200 pound elk and this 150 pound cat is on its back biting its neck and it runs like 100, 200 yards with this cat on its back and then it piles up and then the cat eats it and then they catch the cat on top of this thing.
01:40:52.000 You know what, man?
01:40:53.000 I think the reason why I don't get down with nature and mountains and stuff, because I grew up in Denver, man.
01:40:58.000 So I was going camping all the time.
01:41:00.000 I was shooting arrows when I was young and shit.
01:41:03.000 So I'm over it, man.
01:41:04.000 You're over it.
01:41:04.000 I love the ocean.
01:41:05.000 I can't get enough of the ocean.
01:41:07.000 Yeah, see, that's it.
01:41:08.000 You're experiencing the new nature.
01:41:10.000 Yeah, man.
01:41:11.000 I mean, the ocean is...
01:41:12.000 I rented a place in Malibu for like three months.
01:41:15.000 It was last summer.
01:41:16.000 And I would wake up every morning just looking at that water going, whoa.
01:41:20.000 Whoa.
01:41:20.000 I feel like there's nothing better.
01:41:21.000 It's crazy.
01:41:22.000 Love it.
01:41:22.000 It's crazy.
01:41:23.000 It's a crazy view.
01:41:25.000 And it's a morphing view.
01:41:28.000 Like in the daytime, it's inviting.
01:41:30.000 And at nighttime, it's terrifying.
01:41:32.000 Terrifying.
01:41:33.000 Black.
01:41:34.000 That's the only difference.
01:41:35.000 The only difference is you can't see.
01:41:37.000 Yeah.
01:41:37.000 Would you ever live in Malibu?
01:41:41.000 I don't know if it's wise to buy a home next to the water.
01:41:46.000 I don't know if it's wise to spend several million dollars for a house that's stuck in the sand right in front of the lip of the ocean.
01:41:53.000 You want to talk about basic bitches?
01:41:55.000 Like, are you not paying attention to the entirety of the human history that's been recorded about the changing of the Earth's atmosphere and about how, like, you find cities that are underwater.
01:42:08.000 They're like Roman cities and shit.
01:42:10.000 Now they're underwater.
01:42:11.000 Why are they underwater?
01:42:12.000 Well, they're underwater because the ocean moves.
01:42:16.000 It's not stuck there.
01:42:18.000 It's not going to stay exactly where it is.
01:42:19.000 If you're looking for an investment 2,000 years from now, yeah, probably don't buy a house in Malibu.
01:42:23.000 However, for when you're alive, you should be fine, Joe.
01:42:26.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:42:27.000 Yeah.
01:42:28.000 Maybe, but maybe not.
01:42:29.000 I can almost guarantee you'll be fine.
01:42:31.000 How about what happened in Japan?
01:42:32.000 That shit could happen in Malibu any day.
01:42:36.000 Any day.
01:42:38.000 I have a friend who lives in Pacific Palace.
01:42:40.000 It's got a nice sweet spot up a hill.
01:42:42.000 And I go, why don't you live by the water?
01:42:44.000 You got a lot of money.
01:42:45.000 He goes, tsunamis.
01:42:47.000 Tsunamis.
01:42:47.000 I go, really?
01:42:48.000 He goes, yeah.
01:42:49.000 He goes, they happen.
01:42:50.000 He goes, they might not happen, but they happen.
01:42:52.000 And when they happen, guess what?
01:42:53.000 What are you going to hear?
01:42:54.000 Are you going to hear a horn in the middle of the night?
01:42:56.000 I sleep with a sound machine.
01:42:57.000 I have a sound machine next to my bed, play sounds of birds and shit so I can sleep.
01:43:01.000 That's what he said.
01:43:01.000 He goes, I'm not drowning to death.
01:43:04.000 God damn, that's dark.
01:43:05.000 I mean, fuck, bro.
01:43:07.000 I live right on, you know, I live on the marina.
01:43:09.000 The way they sold me there, like if a tsunami comes, this thing tilts.
01:43:13.000 It tilts.
01:43:13.000 I said, really?
01:43:14.000 Yeah, I'll take it.
01:43:15.000 It tilts.
01:43:16.000 I'll take it.
01:43:17.000 Save all that tilting shit.
01:43:18.000 It's going to fill up with water.
01:43:19.000 Nah, I'm high up, man.
01:43:22.000 The real tsunami, the real bad motherfuckers, the continent changers, it's going to drown it.
01:43:28.000 It's going to be all underwater.
01:43:30.000 The idea of 500 feet of water up and down, that's nothing.
01:43:34.000 In the history of the world, that shit's happened thousands of times.
01:43:39.000 Bro, to think you're not a real estate agent, for fuck's sake.
01:43:42.000 I'd be like, look, what you really want to do is you want to be on top of the mountain looking down, and you want to have a raft up there.
01:43:49.000 Yeah, man.
01:43:49.000 You've got to have, like, Noah.
01:43:51.000 Fuck, bro.
01:43:52.000 I don't know if that's a reason not to live by the beach.
01:43:54.000 No.
01:43:54.000 The beach is awesome.
01:43:55.000 Still awesome.
01:43:56.000 If you were like super baller, like Richard Branson type character, you really ideally want two houses.
01:44:01.000 You want a house at the top of the mountain.
01:44:03.000 No, you want three.
01:44:04.000 You want a house at the top of the mountain.
01:44:05.000 You want a fat place in the city.
01:44:07.000 True.
01:44:07.000 And then you want a spot on the water.
01:44:08.000 That's how you want to do it, man.
01:44:09.000 If you're going to be a fucking super baller.
01:44:11.000 Scrooge McDuck style.
01:44:13.000 Yeah, but you got to have like, you know, fucking shell oil type money.
01:44:18.000 You think?
01:44:19.000 If you want to do it right.
01:44:20.000 A lot of money in having three mansions.
01:44:22.000 Oh!
01:44:23.000 I'm not talking about mansions.
01:44:24.000 Maybe you have a condo downtown, like a dope-ass penthouse.
01:44:27.000 That's a good move, right?
01:44:28.000 Yeah, man.
01:44:29.000 I'm not a big fan of living downtown because of the goddamn traffic, but, you know...
01:44:36.000 It's tough, man.
01:44:37.000 It's brutal.
01:44:38.000 It's brutal to get down there.
01:44:39.000 Downtown's ruthless.
01:44:40.000 I would never live down there.
01:44:42.000 But it's kind of dope.
01:44:43.000 You could walk around downtown now.
01:44:46.000 It's cleaning up, and LA's putting a ton of money into it.
01:44:48.000 They want it to be the new hot spot, so it's a good place to buy.
01:44:51.000 They've got to kill bums.
01:44:53.000 They're going to have to kill some bums.
01:44:54.000 They're going to have to kill some bums.
01:44:56.000 People are like, what the fuck he said?
01:44:57.000 We're kidding, folks.
01:44:59.000 We're not kidding.
01:45:00.000 I'm not kidding.
01:45:00.000 If it raises the property value, we're going to have to get rid of him.
01:45:02.000 No, I'm just kidding.
01:45:03.000 This guy, first of all, this dude from Canada is a motherfucker, dude.
01:45:07.000 The guy in the black shorts, is he from Canada?
01:45:09.000 He is, right?
01:45:10.000 Dude, he's badass, man.
01:45:12.000 This is a tough fight.
01:45:13.000 That other dude is taking some serious body shots.
01:45:17.000 Third round here.
01:45:19.000 I just think that the bum thing is, it's all bullshit aside, you know, obviously I don't think you should kill him, but when you stop and look at him, it's a horrible indictment of how flawed our current system of community is.
01:45:32.000 That our community allows people to get so disenfranchised.
01:45:36.000 There's an entire...
01:45:37.000 Like, a whole ecosystem of people in downtown L.A. I get that.
01:45:42.000 I look at them, they make me sad.
01:45:43.000 I think people don't know what we're talking about.
01:45:46.000 Like, if they've never seen Skid Row.
01:45:48.000 Like, these people that are listening to us, oh, you're being so mean about homeless people.
01:45:51.000 It's a different thing.
01:45:53.000 It's like Walking Dead, but imagine all the zombies in one place.
01:45:56.000 And they will eat your dick off.
01:45:59.000 For crack.
01:46:01.000 It is really crazy.
01:46:02.000 It's one of the craziest things you'll ever see.
01:46:04.000 There's a ton of them in Venice, too, man.
01:46:06.000 Oh, yeah.
01:46:07.000 A ton in Venice.
01:46:07.000 Yeah.
01:46:08.000 They get uncomfortable, too, when you're at those Venice beach spots where they gather and, you know, they want money from tourists, so they start begging.
01:46:16.000 Yeah, it's rough.
01:46:17.000 Well, there's a lot of crazy people.
01:46:19.000 That's really what it is.
01:46:20.000 It's a mental health issue.
01:46:21.000 That gets thrown around a lot for everything, right?
01:46:24.000 I think some of our mental health.
01:46:26.000 I think some were just like fuck fuck it man.
01:46:29.000 Yep.
01:46:30.000 I think also though saying fuck it though is a bit of a mental health issue.
01:46:34.000 Is it?
01:46:35.000 Or is it just called giving up?
01:46:36.000 I think even that is mental health.
01:46:39.000 Like don't you think it's healthy to have good friends It's healthy to be a good friend.
01:46:43.000 It's healthy to be in love.
01:46:45.000 It's healthy to be fulfilled by your pursuits in life, whether it is your artistic pursuits or athletic pursuits or your career pursuits.
01:46:53.000 Those are health issues.
01:46:55.000 It's like, isn't it healthy to exercise, right?
01:46:58.000 That's a physical health issue.
01:47:00.000 Actually, he doesn't exercise.
01:47:02.000 That's a choice.
01:47:03.000 Right.
01:47:03.000 But when you talk and consider physical health, physical health is dependent upon choices.
01:47:09.000 It's dependent upon dietary choices and it's dependent upon choices that you make as far as how much exercise you do.
01:47:16.000 And that's your health.
01:47:17.000 I think mental health is the same thing.
01:47:20.000 I think there's aspects of mental health that are undeniable just like there's aspects of physical health that are undeniable.
01:47:26.000 There's people that are born with horrible physical diseases and there's not much they can do physically to overcome those.
01:47:34.000 There's all sorts of deformities and all sorts of real problems that people have that are physical.
01:47:40.000 But then there's also people that are just fucking overeating lazy fucks and they develop heart disease.
01:47:47.000 Well, isn't that a physical health issue?
01:47:49.000 Well, it most certainly is.
01:47:50.000 And have that physical health issue manifest itself through choices and decisions and your actions.
01:47:56.000 So then it becomes a mental health issue as well.
01:47:58.000 So it's a physical health issue, but it's also a mental health issue because it's your mental health that is out of line that allows your physical health to get so fucked up.
01:48:05.000 But also, people's experiences in life, I don't know if I'd say it's a mental health issue where they have an issue with their brain, you know what I'm saying, where it's chemically different.
01:48:15.000 Sometimes they might not have had the same opportunities as other people and just say, listen, man, fuck this.
01:48:21.000 Like maybe they lost a family member, maybe they lost their job, and it's like, you know, I'm sick of this shit, man.
01:48:26.000 Yeah, that's true.
01:48:27.000 I think there's some of that.
01:48:27.000 But I think that could be considered a mental health issue.
01:48:32.000 I have a problem with people chalking up everything as mental health.
01:48:35.000 Like these shooters, these random shooters, it's always a mental health thing.
01:48:41.000 Yes.
01:48:41.000 Right?
01:48:41.000 Oh, it's a mental health thing.
01:48:43.000 You're right.
01:48:43.000 Man, that's an easy getaway.
01:48:45.000 They might just be fucked up, man, bad people.
01:48:47.000 Can we chalk some things up if people are just evil, man?
01:48:50.000 We could, but that also is, I think, could be considered a mental health issue.
01:48:55.000 And I think the word mental health, we get thrown around like, we look at health and disease and issues like that where you're not balanced and in order.
01:49:05.000 We look at it like, oh, Jimmy caught gonorrhea.
01:49:07.000 Well, that guy's got a disease, he needs penicillin.
01:49:10.000 But if you're just a lazy fuck that eats like shit and eventually your heart gives out, you have heart disease, and that is a physical disorder.
01:49:19.000 It's a physical disorder that came from you not having discipline for whatever reason.
01:49:24.000 Making poor choices.
01:49:25.000 So it manifests itself in a physical condition.
01:49:27.000 It could also manifest itself in a mental condition because you could be at a point where, are we giving up on that feed?
01:49:34.000 Is that what's going on?
01:49:36.000 I got a lot of messages saying that that was the prelims and that the main card is going on now live.
01:49:41.000 Oh, nice, on the West Coast.
01:49:42.000 So it was just the prelims live?
01:49:44.000 I had the link from their website and that was what it was playing.
01:49:46.000 The main card supposedly is live now.
01:49:49.000 Oh, so when they were saying that we were watching, we were watching the prelims.
01:49:53.000 Okay, that makes sense.
01:49:55.000 So, okay, now that we have that, let's put up the card on the...
01:49:58.000 Okay, cool.
01:49:59.000 Okay.
01:50:00.000 But I think the word disease is an issue and the word health is an issue because it's really like we categorize things like health and disease and we get real rigid with how we look at them.
01:50:14.000 We look at things like health and disease.
01:50:16.000 People that have disorders, when you have addictions, when you have When you have compulsions, when you have negative behavior that you can't help but keep continuing to repeat over and over again, self-sabotaging behavior, that is a mental health issue.
01:50:30.000 When you have obsessive, like you're a stalker.
01:50:33.000 You start stalking a girl.
01:50:35.000 You won't leave her alone.
01:50:36.000 You're obsessed with her.
01:50:36.000 You check her Facebook.
01:50:38.000 That obsession is a disorder.
01:50:41.000 You could call it a mental health issue.
01:50:43.000 You could call it behavioral malfunction.
01:50:46.000 True.
01:50:46.000 But you're not healthy mentally.
01:50:49.000 So it is a mental health issue.
01:50:51.000 If you go into a school and you shoot people, 100% you have a mental health issue.
01:50:57.000 100%.
01:50:58.000 100%.
01:50:59.000 The issue is you can't be mentally healthy and want to go and shoot random people just so people know your name.
01:51:05.000 You can't want that.
01:51:06.000 If you want that, you are mentally unwell.
01:51:10.000 And so I think when we look at things like, oh, it's not his fault, he has a mental health disorder.
01:51:15.000 Oh, that's just a cop-out.
01:51:17.000 Well, no, he's responsible for whatever that disorder is, but he most certainly has a disorder.
01:51:23.000 Like when someone's a rapist, Bill Cosby, okay?
01:51:26.000 He's got a mental health issue.
01:51:28.000 It doesn't exonerate him.
01:51:29.000 It doesn't say that he should be free and no one should prosecute him and he should somehow or another be treated instead of locked up.
01:51:39.000 No, no, that's not what I'm saying.
01:51:42.000 But you have to have a mental health issue in order to drug women and fuck them when they're unconscious.
01:51:47.000 You have to have a total disconnect For feeling about that woman's health, her safety, her physical solidarity, her ability to own her own body and own her own consciousness.
01:52:08.000 For you to want to bypass that with a pill so you can stick your dick in her, you have to be mentally well.
01:52:14.000 What if he was raised that way?
01:52:15.000 Doesn't matter.
01:52:16.000 Doesn't matter.
01:52:17.000 Because you can be mentally raised to be racist, like we were talking before, or you can be raised in a mental pattern where you're homophobic.
01:52:26.000 All those are absolutely 100% possible.
01:52:29.000 But at the end of the day, you're still mentally unwell.
01:52:34.000 You're mentally unwell because of the way you were raised.
01:52:37.000 You're mentally unwell in spite of the way you were raised.
01:52:39.000 It doesn't matter.
01:52:40.000 You're mentally unwell.
01:52:42.000 And I think if we look at behavior like...
01:52:46.000 Overall, what is conducive to a happy experience for you and the people that you encounter?
01:52:51.000 What is conducive to you being fulfilled in your life and having great friendships and great relationships?
01:52:57.000 What is conducive to that?
01:52:59.000 Well, if you move towards that and you try to eliminate all the errors that you keep repeating and making and you recognize those, that's healthy.
01:53:07.000 Well, this is the thing, though.
01:53:08.000 So if I have mental health issues, there's a lot of negative that comes with it, right?
01:53:16.000 So if I, whatever, have this weird inclination to molest boys or whatever, for whatever reason...
01:53:23.000 Well, for whatever it is, or to rape girls, right?
01:53:27.000 It's going to be tough to get help, right?
01:53:29.000 Because you have this negative connotation with it.
01:53:31.000 Sure.
01:53:32.000 So that's why it keeps going on.
01:53:33.000 Well, that's certainly a part of it.
01:53:35.000 And I'm not promoting any of this fucking bullshit, but I'm just saying there's no safe house for them, right?
01:53:42.000 They can't go up and be like, hey man, listen, I have this weird fantasy where I fucking love to molest little kids.
01:53:47.000 People are like, what?
01:53:48.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:53:49.000 There's no outlet for them.
01:53:50.000 It's true.
01:53:51.000 I mean, to have a fantasy where you victimize small children is like the most taboo and forbidden fantasy ever.
01:53:57.000 You can't even jerk off to that.
01:53:59.000 But if you have that, you're fucked.
01:54:00.000 You can't even pretend.
01:54:00.000 You're super fucked.
01:54:01.000 Well, say if a guy...
01:54:03.000 Say if you're married, right?
01:54:05.000 And maybe your wife puts on a few pounds, but you want to stay married, and you don't want to cheat on her, and she doesn't want to have sex anymore, or maybe she's older and she gets the menopause, and you just go into your...
01:54:18.000 Garage or wherever the fuck you keep your porn, and you whack one off every now and then.
01:54:22.000 Just whack one off to stay sane.
01:54:23.000 Everything else is great, but when you're closing your eyes, you're whacking off, and you're looking at porn, you're looking at some dirty girl with a tattoo on her lower back, and she's sucking dick, and you just want to come in her mouth.
01:54:33.000 Sure.
01:54:35.000 See, you're allowed to indulge those fantasies if you're a man.
01:54:38.000 Like, if you're a guy who has no chance whatsoever...
01:54:41.000 Of, uh, banging some super hot porn star.
01:54:45.000 A ten, yeah.
01:54:45.000 You could still jerk off watching her fuck.
01:54:47.000 So that's what you like.
01:54:49.000 Yeah.
01:54:49.000 You could still jerk off watching someone just hold her hair and just mouth fuck her.
01:54:53.000 You can do that and no repercussions.
01:54:56.000 Like, you could never have sex with that girl ever, but you could jerk off to her having sex and have no repercussions.
01:55:02.000 Because that's your taste.
01:55:02.000 Right.
01:55:02.000 But if your taste is like young boys, like twinks, like 15-year-old twinks.
01:55:07.000 That's gonna be tough, my man.
01:55:07.000 You have nothing.
01:55:09.000 Everything is illegal.
01:55:11.000 It doesn't even mean that you want to go out and have sex with those young boys or you plan on having sex with those boys.
01:55:17.000 You can't even jerk off to them.
01:55:18.000 So it leads me to question, what happens if in the future they figure out virtual reality?
01:55:25.000 They get virtual reality to a point where it's just you can't...
01:55:30.000 Anything goes.
01:55:30.000 Anything goes in virtual reality.
01:55:32.000 So you have these artificial young boys that blow you.
01:55:36.000 Will that be illegal?
01:55:37.000 Because no one's getting hurt there.
01:55:38.000 These artificial boys are made out of 3D polygons.
01:55:42.000 They're connected together with some visual video effects engine.
01:55:46.000 It's hard to argue because it satisfies the urge, right?
01:55:49.000 And they're not doing it to actual humans.
01:55:50.000 Yeah, right.
01:55:51.000 But you want to eliminate that urge, though.
01:55:54.000 You want to cut it out of the society.
01:55:56.000 Okay, so what do you do?
01:55:56.000 Kill these guys?
01:55:59.000 All right, I'm with you.
01:56:00.000 Them and the bums.
01:56:00.000 I think you might have to.
01:56:01.000 Them and the bums.
01:56:02.000 Them and the bums.
01:56:03.000 See ya.
01:56:04.000 I wish there was a way to just rewire you.
01:56:07.000 I mean, in all fairness.
01:56:08.000 I bet they do, too.
01:56:09.000 I bet a lot of people do, who have all those issues.
01:56:12.000 Of course.
01:56:12.000 Those real dark people who are unhappy, you don't think they wish they could be rewired?
01:56:17.000 Sure, man.
01:56:18.000 Even gamblers.
01:56:19.000 You ever meet a guy who's a crazy gambler?
01:56:20.000 I'll take some rewiring on a few things.
01:56:21.000 Yeah.
01:56:23.000 You know, it was really interesting.
01:56:24.000 Someone was talking to me about this fat guy that I know.
01:56:27.000 And his wife was saying that it's kind of crazy because...
01:56:31.000 First of all, that guy, what's his name?
01:56:33.000 Halsey?
01:56:33.000 Halsey.
01:56:33.000 That is the biggest 185 pounder.
01:56:35.000 That is a large human being.
01:56:36.000 That guy's gigantic for 185. I like this Michael.
01:56:39.000 Michael Page?
01:56:39.000 Yeah, I like that Michael Page.
01:56:41.000 He's ridiculous.
01:56:41.000 He's fun to watch.
01:56:41.000 His talents are almost wasted in that division that he's competing against.
01:56:45.000 He needs to fight a much higher caliber of fighter.
01:56:49.000 He's collecting paychecks.
01:56:50.000 What was I just saying?
01:56:51.000 What were we just talking about?
01:56:52.000 Oh, you have a fat friend.
01:56:53.000 Oh, and his wife was like, here's the difference between being addicted to anything else.
01:56:58.000 If you're addicted to cigarettes, you stop smoking cigarettes, and then you kick the habit.
01:57:03.000 But if you're addicted to food, you have to eat food.
01:57:07.000 It's a legit point.
01:57:08.000 It was a very legit point.
01:57:09.000 I thought about it and I went, whoa.
01:57:12.000 It's a super legit point.
01:57:13.000 Obviously, I don't have food issues.
01:57:15.000 I don't have a real food addiction.
01:57:19.000 But over the last nine days, I quit eating sugar.
01:57:23.000 Lost six pounds now, as of today.
01:57:26.000 Six fucking pounds.
01:57:27.000 And I'm not trying.
01:57:28.000 Like, I'm just eating normal.
01:57:30.000 I'm doing the same.
01:57:31.000 You're not doing more cardio or anything?
01:57:32.000 Nope.
01:57:32.000 Nope.
01:57:33.000 Same amount.
01:57:33.000 Everything's the same.
01:57:34.000 Workout's the same.
01:57:35.000 Everything's the same.
01:57:36.000 But you were getting your sugar from where?
01:57:37.000 From these fucking mango things?
01:57:39.000 No, those are natural.
01:57:41.000 Oh, the mango things.
01:57:41.000 Yeah, I thought you were C2O. C2O's delicious and sweet, but it's...
01:57:46.000 That's natural.
01:57:47.000 That's just the coconut water.
01:57:48.000 If it's from fruit or whatever, you're good.
01:57:49.000 Yeah, fruit's fine.
01:57:50.000 I've been eating bananas every day, and I eat oranges and apples.
01:57:53.000 I eat a lot of fruit.
01:57:54.000 But, like, those mangoes, those chili mangoes are so goddamn good.
01:57:58.000 I haven't ate much today.
01:57:59.000 I came in, I saw that bag, and I thought, you know what?
01:58:01.000 YOLO. Fuck this.
01:58:03.000 YOLO! When's the last time you heard YOLO? I don't know why that came out of my mouth.
01:58:06.000 I don't know why that came out of my mouth.
01:58:08.000 I don't even talk like that.
01:58:09.000 It's got added sugar.
01:58:10.000 That's the problem.
01:58:11.000 It's not just the sugar from the dried mangoes.
01:58:13.000 They put sugar and then...
01:58:16.000 The chili sauce together, the chili pepper together.
01:58:19.000 Mangos from heaven is what I say.
01:58:21.000 Heaven dust?
01:58:22.000 Oh, you mean sugar?
01:58:23.000 I'm fucking addicted, man.
01:58:24.000 So I go nine days in and I decide I'm going a month in.
01:58:27.000 I'm going to see what happens when I make it to a month.
01:58:29.000 You know what, though?
01:58:29.000 You're a real disciplined type of dude who can do that.
01:58:32.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:58:33.000 You stick something and you're fucking sticking to it.
01:58:36.000 That's one thing I know about you.
01:58:37.000 I definitely do.
01:58:38.000 But what I'm thinking is, while I'm doing this, I'm like, man, I don't even have an issue.
01:58:42.000 And this is like overwhelming my thoughts, like a lot of the day.
01:58:46.000 Like where I see like a hot dog with a nice white roll, a white bun, that white bread.
01:58:51.000 I'm not eating any of that shit.
01:58:52.000 I'm not eating that.
01:58:53.000 So I see that hot dog with fucking sauerkraut on it.
01:58:56.000 Ooh, you ever go to Home Depot and they have the hot dog cart in front of Home Depot?
01:58:59.000 Oh, those things are so fucking good.
01:59:02.000 Motherfuckers.
01:59:02.000 They're getting me.
01:59:03.000 I'm in there for a hammer.
01:59:04.000 I'm trying to buy a hammer.
01:59:05.000 I'm not trying to buy a hot dog.
01:59:06.000 Dude.
01:59:07.000 I end up walking out with that hot dog and a churro.
01:59:11.000 They got that churro, and I'm like, fuck it.
01:59:13.000 You know what?
01:59:14.000 I'll wash it down with a Coke.
01:59:15.000 Disneyland gets me with them goddamn churros.
01:59:17.000 Bro, the churros and the funnel cakes.
01:59:18.000 I got Mickey Mouse ears on and shit, feeling like shit.
01:59:21.000 I'm done, dude.
01:59:22.000 No sugar for this month.
01:59:24.000 So I'm going to see what happens.
01:59:25.000 And at the end of the month, I'm going to see how I feel and what I look like.
01:59:29.000 But I'm assuming everyone in your household is this way.
01:59:32.000 Because if they're not, you're going to have troubles.
01:59:34.000 No, I'm not going to have troubles.
01:59:35.000 I used to date a girl who I was trying to eat real healthy, but she literally had crazy genetics.
01:59:41.000 She would eat fast food every night.
01:59:42.000 So I'd be like eating fucking, you know, broccoli and chicken.
01:59:46.000 She's balls deep in a 12-piece chicken nugget.
01:59:48.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:59:49.000 It's tough, man.
01:59:51.000 It is, but when I get it in my head, it doesn't matter.
01:59:54.000 You can eat pizza right in front of me.
01:59:56.000 You're a beast with it.
01:59:57.000 Well, I just, I have switches.
01:59:59.000 I have like, okay, now you don't do this anymore, and that's it.
02:00:02.000 And once I don't do that anymore, I don't do that anymore.
02:00:05.000 Because then if I do do it, if I give in, that'll permeate itself in the rest of my life.
02:00:10.000 That'll leak itself into my comedy, leak itself into my workouts, it'll leak itself into everything.
02:00:16.000 Do you do that with your social life?
02:00:17.000 If someone fucks you over or you're dead to me?
02:00:20.000 Yes.
02:00:21.000 I would assume.
02:00:22.000 As soon as they...
02:00:24.000 You will run into people that will either sabotage you or do a bad business deal with you or try to fuck you in some way.
02:00:32.000 And you can't hate them.
02:00:34.000 I forgive them as a person, but I won't associate with them anymore.
02:00:38.000 Ever again?
02:00:39.000 No.
02:00:39.000 Yeah, there's no...
02:00:41.000 Yeah, no.
02:00:42.000 No, no.
02:00:42.000 I mean, you'd have to have some insane apology.
02:00:46.000 With a real explanation, and then, you know, we probably have to work our way back to a friendship real slow.
02:00:51.000 But when someone fucks you over, you can't tolerate that.
02:00:56.000 Because those people become problems, and those people, that's a pattern.
02:01:00.000 That, like, if you have a friend, and, like, especially, like, you hear about friends going into business together, and then, like, they start a restaurant or something, and one guy fucks off with the cash, and they wind up fighting each other.
02:01:12.000 My stepdad and his, he had a business partner in an architectural firm, and they beat each other up one day.
02:01:19.000 Should have beat each other up.
02:01:20.000 He came home, he had a black eye, and he was, you know, in his 40s.
02:01:25.000 And I was a kid, and I was like, well, first of all, I was like, I was fighting back then.
02:01:29.000 I was like, this bitch has zero skills.
02:01:32.000 It's like, what did this fight look like?
02:01:34.000 Because I knew his...
02:01:35.000 Basic-ass step-dad.
02:01:37.000 ...the worst.
02:01:37.000 But it's like, he's a good guy.
02:01:38.000 He wasn't a bad person.
02:01:39.000 But I knew the guy he fought with, too.
02:01:41.000 I'm like, that's even more ridiculous that that guy gave you a black eye.
02:01:44.000 Because that has to be insane.
02:01:45.000 Think how mad they were, though.
02:01:47.000 They were so mad.
02:01:48.000 Well, it was a very complicated situation where they had government contracts.
02:01:53.000 And then the government lost money.
02:01:57.000 There was a recession and during the recession they canceled a lot of their contracts.
02:02:03.000 So these guys had put all this time and work and effort into these projects and the projects were pulled out from under them and all their investment was done.
02:02:11.000 Super fucked.
02:02:12.000 It was really bad.
02:02:15.000 I'm sure there was a lot of blame on both sides and who knows what the fuck happened.
02:02:19.000 It's weird when you see someone come home.
02:02:21.000 Your stepdad got sucker punched.
02:02:22.000 He's got a black eye.
02:02:24.000 I'm like, what?
02:02:25.000 If I was Brendan Shaw, I'd be like, for sure, keep your hands up next time.
02:02:32.000 For sure, don't let them get that close to you.
02:02:35.000 Talking shit to each other.
02:02:36.000 I saw my dad get in a fight when I was 12. I'm not making this up.
02:02:41.000 Whatever.
02:02:42.000 Fucking cars, right?
02:02:44.000 My dad pulls in front of him.
02:02:46.000 He pulls in front of my dad.
02:02:47.000 He gets out.
02:02:47.000 My dad goes, you want to fucking go?
02:02:49.000 I'm like, My dad's like this.
02:02:49.000 Oh no, like an old school Irish boxer?
02:02:52.000 I was like, oh no.
02:02:53.000 I remember being like 10 or 11 and being like, ah, fuck, man.
02:02:57.000 See, the problem with that is, Nick Diaz can actually fight like that.
02:03:00.000 Oh, my dad beat the brakes off this dude, son.
02:03:02.000 Did he?
02:03:02.000 Yeah, he was about to throw him off the side of the highway in a leather jacket.
02:03:06.000 Oh no.
02:03:06.000 Yeah, did not fuck around.
02:03:07.000 When a guy stands out like that, starts doing the old school boxing, one of two things can happen.
02:03:12.000 He's trying to scare you off, or he's so good with his hands, he just kind of roll at you like, what's up, dude?
02:03:17.000 You want some- Yeah, man.
02:03:19.000 Yeah.
02:03:21.000 What you gonna do now?
02:03:22.000 It was weird, man.
02:03:22.000 You're in a bad situation.
02:03:24.000 I'll tell you what.
02:03:25.000 For reals, man.
02:03:26.000 I remember my dad getting out of the car.
02:03:27.000 I'm like, God damn it.
02:03:29.000 And then my brother gets out, kicks the guy in the balls from behind.
02:03:32.000 My brother's probably 12 at the time.
02:03:33.000 Jesus Christ.
02:03:34.000 Christ, your brother kicked a grown man in the balls?
02:03:37.000 Grown man in the balls.
02:03:38.000 That's when it gets really dangerous, because the kid gets involved, and then the father becomes super violent.
02:03:43.000 You know what Little Brown was doing?
02:03:44.000 What was Little Brown?
02:03:44.000 Crying in the backseat.
02:03:46.000 How old were you?
02:03:47.000 Probably like 10 or 11, crying in the backseat.
02:03:51.000 You can't be trusted.
02:03:52.000 If shit goes down, crying.
02:03:54.000 I never saw my stepdad fight, but I saw him almost get in a fight once.
02:03:57.000 We got in a minor car accident, like a little fender bender, when I was like 8 or 9 years old.
02:04:02.000 And it was these young kids in this other car and they got out swearing and yelling and I was like, oh no.
02:04:06.000 I was so scared.
02:04:08.000 So scared.
02:04:09.000 I was so scared because he wasn't a tough guy either.
02:04:11.000 Please tell me you cried.
02:04:12.000 I felt so vulnerable.
02:04:13.000 Did you cry or no?
02:04:14.000 I don't know.
02:04:15.000 I might have.
02:04:15.000 I don't think so.
02:04:16.000 Because I don't think it got to the point where anybody hit anybody.
02:04:19.000 So I would definitely have cried if they hit each other.
02:04:22.000 Yeah.
02:04:22.000 I would have been terrified.
02:04:23.000 But that's how people die.
02:04:24.000 You know, that's how people wind up killing the whole family.
02:04:27.000 True, man.
02:04:27.000 Knock the guy out.
02:04:28.000 The guy falls, hits his head.
02:04:29.000 You go, we got to get rid of the family.
02:04:30.000 And they just, they murk your wife.
02:04:32.000 Murk everybody.
02:04:33.000 Murk your kids.
02:04:34.000 That shit happens.
02:04:35.000 You know, you run into the wrong biker gang.
02:04:37.000 True, man.
02:04:37.000 You know, they're messed up and trying to prove their hardness.
02:04:40.000 For sure.
02:04:41.000 Weird shit happens.
02:04:43.000 You know, you're the wrong race, you know, you're a black guy, and there's a, you know, you have a white girlfriend maybe.
02:04:49.000 Who the fuck knows, man?
02:04:50.000 Yeah, man.
02:04:51.000 Anything can happen.
02:04:51.000 You know, how about transgender people?
02:04:53.000 How about a transgender person gets in a car accident with a bunch of fucking amped up dudes?
02:04:57.000 Oh, they're fucked.
02:04:58.000 Yeah.
02:04:59.000 I mean, and you're on a dirt road somewhere in the middle of nowhere, and you just decide to beat this guy to death.
02:05:03.000 Dude, I need a gun.
02:05:06.000 For reals, man.
02:05:07.000 If you need a gun.
02:05:08.000 I need a fucking gun.
02:05:09.000 Most people really need a gun.
02:05:10.000 Oh, yeah.
02:05:10.000 That should alarm everybody, because I can fight.
02:05:13.000 Yeah.
02:05:14.000 People need a gun.
02:05:16.000 It's a weird thing out there.
02:05:17.000 You could run into the wrong people.
02:05:18.000 And I've had people say that to me, like, you're so paranoid.
02:05:22.000 You know, like, why do you want to learn martial arts?
02:05:24.000 Like, I had this conversation with Marc Maron once about this.
02:05:26.000 You know, it's like, well, is that really going to happen?
02:05:28.000 Like, are you really worried about it?
02:05:29.000 Like, I've seen it.
02:05:30.000 Like, I know bad people.
02:05:33.000 I've seen people do bad things to people.
02:05:35.000 I've seen people hit people when they didn't have to.
02:05:38.000 Tim Kennedy said the same thing.
02:05:39.000 Because I asked him, I'm like, why should I have a gun?
02:05:41.000 He's like, because if shit goes down, you want to be prepared, man.
02:05:44.000 He goes, I never go anywhere without a gun.
02:05:46.000 He goes, because my wife and my kids are depending on me.
02:05:49.000 He goes, what happened if that guy has a gun, and yeah, I have all these fighting skills, what the fuck am I gonna do?
02:05:53.000 He goes, I would never let them down.
02:05:55.000 And he's, you know, world-class fighter.
02:05:57.000 World-class.
02:05:58.000 And he's saying this, I was like, damn, I need a gun.
02:06:00.000 I tried buying one off the black market.
02:06:02.000 Why would you do that when you can get one for real?
02:06:03.000 From him.
02:06:04.000 And he was like, get the fuck out of here.
02:06:05.000 Yeah, don't even say you tried.
02:06:06.000 That was a joke.
02:06:07.000 It was a joke.
02:06:08.000 Yeah, lie.
02:06:09.000 We lied.
02:06:09.000 We just lied?
02:06:10.000 Yeah, 100%.
02:06:11.000 He made fun of me.
02:06:12.000 But you can get one, you know, legally, fairly easily.
02:06:15.000 You got a guy?
02:06:15.000 You got a guy?
02:06:16.000 It's not hard.
02:06:18.000 It's not hard.
02:06:19.000 Wink, wink, wink.
02:06:20.000 It's not hard to get a gun in California.
02:06:22.000 It's one of the weird things.
02:06:22.000 It's not hard.
02:06:24.000 Do I have to take lessons?
02:06:26.000 No.
02:06:26.000 That's what's crazy.
02:06:27.000 Whose phone is that?
02:06:28.000 Is that mine or yours?
02:06:29.000 Definitely not mine.
02:06:32.000 You don't have to fill out paperwork.
02:06:35.000 At least you didn't when I did.
02:06:36.000 I mean, paperwork as far as take a test.
02:06:38.000 Yeah.
02:06:39.000 Just kind of give me the goddamn thing.
02:06:41.000 It's not hard.
02:06:41.000 Like, hunter safety.
02:06:43.000 Like, when you take a hunter safety course, you do most of that online.
02:06:48.000 And then you go and take, like, a class.
02:06:51.000 Is there a way...
02:06:52.000 Ah, class.
02:06:52.000 Yeah, I don't want to do that.
02:06:53.000 I'm going to go black market.
02:06:55.000 Is there a...
02:06:56.000 Is there a waiting period?
02:06:58.000 For what?
02:06:59.000 For a gun?
02:06:59.000 Rifle?
02:07:00.000 Yes.
02:07:01.000 Not a rifle.
02:07:01.000 Federal.
02:07:02.000 I don't want a rifle.
02:07:03.000 For a handgun, for any kind of firearm.
02:07:04.000 There's a gun.
02:07:05.000 There's a waiting period.
02:07:06.000 They have to find out if you're crazy.
02:07:07.000 They have to find out if you're a felon that's running from the law.
02:07:11.000 They have to find out if you're really Brennan Shaw.
02:07:13.000 Google me, bro.
02:07:13.000 Give me a goddamn gun.
02:07:14.000 Google me, bro.
02:07:15.000 Give me a goddamn gun.
02:07:17.000 You could get a gun, man.
02:07:18.000 It wouldn't be any problem.
02:07:19.000 But Joey Diaz can't get a gun.
02:07:21.000 Joey Diaz is a felon.
02:07:22.000 That makes sense.
02:07:23.000 Yeah, if you're a felon, you can't get a gun.
02:07:25.000 I mean, that's...
02:07:26.000 Yeah, it's tricky, man.
02:07:27.000 I love Joey Diaz, but it makes sense.
02:07:29.000 If you just look at his record on paper...
02:07:30.000 Yeah, it's tough to sell that guy a gun.
02:07:32.000 Well, it just seems like a...
02:07:35.000 Questionable mode.
02:07:36.000 Legit.
02:07:36.000 I mean, there's reason for the law.
02:07:38.000 You watch his podcast.
02:07:40.000 You ever watch that the morning thing that he does?
02:07:42.000 Where he just tokes up?
02:07:43.000 Gets high, the morning joint.
02:07:45.000 Yeah.
02:07:45.000 Is he still on Periscope?
02:07:47.000 Yes.
02:07:48.000 I stopped fucking on Periscope, man.
02:07:50.000 Really?
02:07:50.000 Yeah.
02:07:52.000 Yeah, people got super excited about it, but the excitement waned.
02:07:55.000 It went away, and I was like, hey, you know what, I don't like it either.
02:07:57.000 And then Facebook's doing video streaming, you know.
02:08:00.000 Really?
02:08:00.000 Yeah.
02:08:01.000 Oh, that's right.
02:08:01.000 They're on video streaming now.
02:08:02.000 That's right.
02:08:03.000 For however long you want.
02:08:05.000 Dude, we should start streaming on Facebook.
02:08:07.000 That's what people are saying.
02:08:09.000 And cut out the middleman, YouTube.
02:08:12.000 Well, YouTube's not bad, too.
02:08:14.000 YouTube, we make money off YouTube.
02:08:15.000 Make money off ads.
02:08:17.000 They play ads.
02:08:18.000 Oh, for sure.
02:08:19.000 Yeah.
02:08:20.000 You can make money off videos.
02:08:22.000 I make money off my haters' videos.
02:08:26.000 People make mean videos about me, I put ads on them.
02:08:29.000 Tight move, Joe Rogan.
02:08:32.000 Tight move, man.
02:08:35.000 Shit.
02:08:36.000 That's fun money.
02:08:37.000 Keep on keeping on.
02:08:38.000 Keep hating.
02:08:39.000 Ultimately, I mean...
02:08:41.000 Do you get that much hate, though?
02:08:42.000 Sure.
02:08:43.000 Really?
02:08:44.000 Sure.
02:08:44.000 I don't see it.
02:08:45.000 Oh, you gotta look around.
02:08:46.000 I don't see it.
02:08:46.000 Well, I don't get informed and shit like that.
02:08:48.000 Well, if people hate every show that is on the air, there's gonna be a certain percentage.
02:08:55.000 Like, we were talking about...
02:08:56.000 You have a guy like I was talking about that Milo guy, but even you or even Callan or anyone who I love, there's gonna be a certain percentage of people that fucking hate them, can't stand them.
02:09:08.000 Everybody's not for everybody.
02:09:09.000 That dude went down from those fucking leg kicks, man.
02:09:11.000 Some big boys.
02:09:12.000 That dude on the left is throwing some nasty leg kicks.
02:09:16.000 That white guy's getting ate up.
02:09:19.000 He's down from those leg kicks.
02:09:20.000 Some really big boys.
02:09:21.000 When you see, like, good high-level kickboxing, it makes you realize, like, a lot of the kickboxing that you see in MMA, especially, like, this level, it just doesn't compare.
02:09:32.000 Like, look at what you're watching here.
02:09:33.000 These guys are going, whoa, that guy's holding himself up.
02:09:36.000 Homeboy wants out.
02:09:37.000 Yeah, he does.
02:09:38.000 Kick one more time.
02:09:38.000 Kick one more time, son.
02:09:39.000 That left leg kick.
02:09:41.000 Yeah, for sure don't bend over like that.
02:09:42.000 Yeah, when he kicked that left leg, you could see that thunderbolt of pain go up into his dome.
02:09:48.000 Yeah, people hate everything, man.
02:09:49.000 There's somebody out there that hates fucking Led Zeppelin.
02:09:51.000 Somebody out there that hates Bob Seger.
02:09:53.000 There's somebody out there that wants Billy Joel to jump into the river and drown his own feces.
02:09:59.000 As long as it's 60-40, you're good.
02:10:01.000 But if everyone hates you, you might just be fucked.
02:10:03.000 I don't even think 60-40 is...
02:10:05.000 40, 60?
02:10:06.000 I think what's probably good is like 80, 20, or 70, 30. Yeah, it should be on the higher end, for sure.
02:10:13.000 Otherwise, you're just a dick.
02:10:14.000 60, 40 is like, hmm, maybe you need to tighten up your fucking game a little bit.
02:10:19.000 Tighten it up.
02:10:19.000 You suck.
02:10:20.000 And it's also like, there's like a problem with doing things like a podcast, because you're talking, and you might have an opinion that is not the same as the person who's listening to, and they can't talk back, and it's fucking frustrating.
02:10:34.000 Right.
02:10:34.000 Like, you're talking some shit about, like, maybe some music that they love, or some food that they love, or whatever the fuck it is, and they're listening, and they get mad.
02:10:41.000 Like, I'm fucking tired of listening to this bullshit.
02:10:44.000 You know, you fucking idiot, you don't know shit, and it's because it's an intimate relationship, but it's very one-way.
02:10:50.000 True, but, however, if you listen to a hundred Joe Rogan podcasts, the Joe Rogan Experience, you listen to a hundred, and one of them piss you off, and then you become a hater off that one...
02:11:01.000 Lose my fucking number.
02:11:02.000 You know what I'm saying?
02:11:03.000 That doesn't necessarily have to be the case.
02:11:04.000 They could be a hater from the jump, you know?
02:11:06.000 Oh, well, then they're just a hater.
02:11:07.000 Then they're looking for any reason.
02:11:09.000 There's just always bunch of...
02:11:10.000 I'll tell you what, man.
02:11:10.000 The smartest thing I ever did was that podcast.
02:11:12.000 Before that, I got so much hate.
02:11:14.000 So much fucking...
02:11:15.000 Well, people got to understand you.
02:11:16.000 People got to understand you.
02:11:16.000 And I get it.
02:11:17.000 Yeah.
02:11:17.000 I mean, I dress like Jay Leno and I get a fucking part in my head.
02:11:21.000 You know what I'm saying?
02:11:21.000 Like, I get it.
02:11:22.000 The part looks good.
02:11:23.000 Yeah, it depends who you ask.
02:11:25.000 I like it.
02:11:25.000 Looks like a giant Tobey Maguire.
02:11:27.000 Who doesn't like it?
02:11:27.000 It just depends.
02:11:28.000 People hate, you know?
02:11:29.000 They don't matter.
02:11:31.000 No, I agree.
02:11:31.000 They don't matter.
02:11:32.000 I'm just saying the best thing I ever did was the podcast.
02:11:34.000 Because people are like, oh, he's not that big of a dick.
02:11:37.000 Yeah.
02:11:37.000 Well, they didn't understand a lot of, like, when you would say things.
02:11:40.000 Like, this is just your personality, your sense of humor.
02:11:43.000 Like, they think, this guy, like, really thinks he's the shit.
02:11:45.000 Well, yes and no.
02:11:47.000 Yeah.
02:11:47.000 Like, in a way, yeah.
02:11:49.000 But in another way, no.
02:11:50.000 Like, he's having fun.
02:11:51.000 Like, this is fun.
02:11:52.000 Yeah.
02:11:53.000 What is this Kevin Hart and this soccer player thing?
02:11:56.000 David Beckham.
02:11:57.000 This soccer player.
02:11:58.000 This soccer player that they always try to sneak in on us.
02:12:01.000 Not buying it.
02:12:02.000 I get it.
02:12:04.000 I get it.
02:12:05.000 He's cute.
02:12:06.000 Whatever.
02:12:07.000 Get out of here.
02:12:07.000 He's retired, too.
02:12:08.000 Well, whatever he is, get out of here.
02:12:09.000 It's not working.
02:12:10.000 Oh, man.
02:12:11.000 Hello, I live in America.
02:12:13.000 Land of the free, home of the brave.
02:12:14.000 We don't give a fuck who the world ping pong champion is, okay?
02:12:17.000 What's soccer, bro?
02:12:18.000 Same thing.
02:12:19.000 He's the captain of England for a long time.
02:12:22.000 Soccer, ping pong, darts.
02:12:22.000 Who gives a fuck?
02:12:23.000 Darts.
02:12:24.000 His fate was sealed when he came over to L.A. to play with the Mexicans.
02:12:28.000 His fate was sealed.
02:12:30.000 They didn't even give a fuck about him.
02:12:33.000 We got him late, bro.
02:12:35.000 A few really horny girls in their 30s came down because they were super attracted to him, but it didn't work.
02:12:40.000 David Beckham does work, son.
02:12:42.000 No, I'm saying it didn't work as far as getting us to buy into soccer.
02:12:45.000 No.
02:12:45.000 It did not work.
02:12:46.000 Did not work.
02:12:46.000 It did not work.
02:12:46.000 We paid him like one gigillion dollars.
02:12:48.000 Yeah, it didn't work.
02:12:49.000 And like seven people showed up.
02:12:50.000 Nobody gave a fuck.
02:12:50.000 No one gave a fuck.
02:12:51.000 They're like, this is still soccer.
02:12:52.000 David Beckham is our ticket.
02:12:54.000 What we need is a recognizable face.
02:12:57.000 We got him too late.
02:12:58.000 We got him too late.
02:12:59.000 It didn't matter if he's fucking Diego Maradona in his prime.
02:13:03.000 And he's got a dick that's made out of gold.
02:13:05.000 It doesn't matter.
02:13:06.000 It's still soccer.
02:13:07.000 Soccer's tough.
02:13:08.000 Yeah.
02:13:08.000 If that guy was playing baseball, holy shit.
02:13:11.000 What?
02:13:11.000 He would make A-Rod, you know, I mean, the damage that guys like A-Rod do, I mean, he would make that look silly.
02:13:18.000 I agree.
02:13:19.000 He looks way better.
02:13:20.000 He's a beautiful man.
02:13:22.000 He's all tattooed up, too.
02:13:24.000 But he doesn't have the build.
02:13:25.000 He doesn't have the build.
02:13:26.000 Because in soccer, it's not important to have muscles.
02:13:29.000 Bitches get that skinny look I feel like.
02:13:31.000 Some bitches.
02:13:31.000 The ones you don't want to fuck.
02:13:33.000 You're probably right.
02:13:34.000 Oh, 100%.
02:13:35.000 Yeah.
02:13:36.000 What do you want those?
02:13:37.000 Nah.
02:13:37.000 Those girls who want a guy that's tight, he's tired all the time?
02:13:40.000 A guy with a weak frame?
02:13:42.000 A guy who gets neck pains?
02:13:44.000 That's not what they want.
02:13:45.000 No, that's not what they want.
02:13:46.000 They want a big brown on top of him.
02:13:50.000 They want that super athlete dick.
02:13:53.000 There's the stoppage of that fight.
02:13:55.000 Well, some girls like real skinny dudes, in all seriousness.
02:13:58.000 Some girls like dudes that look like they're like, don't eat.
02:14:02.000 I saw a study where the most appealing for women was kind of that dad bod.
02:14:08.000 Not a real ripped dude, but not a fat dude.
02:14:11.000 You know who wrote that study?
02:14:12.000 Some fat dude was trying to get some pussy.
02:14:14.000 It's bullshit.
02:14:15.000 Are you hating on whoever wrote that?
02:14:17.000 What they're doing is, they're trying to get into the heads of all the women out there.
02:14:43.000 We're good to go.
02:14:44.000 Rice, squats.
02:14:45.000 Potatoes.
02:14:45.000 Rice, squats.
02:14:46.000 Sour cream.
02:14:47.000 Boom.
02:14:47.000 Sour cream.
02:14:48.000 Pork chops.
02:14:49.000 Don't be scared of pork chops.
02:14:50.000 Don't be a basic bitch.
02:14:51.000 Carve up.
02:14:52.000 Carve up and run stairs.
02:14:54.000 Run stairs.
02:14:54.000 You gotta work those glutamous maximuses.
02:14:57.000 But to, like, women who, like, look at those, like, really tall, thin women, they think that that's what they have to achieve.
02:15:06.000 Who the fuck?
02:15:08.000 Who the fuck?
02:15:09.000 It's from television, man.
02:15:11.000 It's from movies.
02:15:11.000 It's from books.
02:15:12.000 It's from magazines, rather.
02:15:14.000 So what do the guys get?
02:15:15.000 The guys get...
02:15:16.000 We look towards what?
02:15:18.000 The rock and shit?
02:15:19.000 Muscle fitness?
02:15:20.000 Yeah, there's that.
02:15:21.000 And then there's like a ridiculously...
02:15:25.000 Like ripped people.
02:15:26.000 Like guys who are just like super shredded six pack guys are sitting around like almost like you know that guy when he took that photo shoot didn't eat for at least a day dehydrated himself to show his abs.
02:15:38.000 Oh he was on an eight week fucking cut to get there.
02:15:41.000 When you see ads and guys look insanely ripped and they have like chiseled six packs either they're a freak of nature Which is, occasionally you have those, a guy who just looks insane no matter what he does, like the Kevin Randleman look.
02:15:55.000 True.
02:15:56.000 Oh, you mean black people.
02:15:58.000 That's what I was going to get to.
02:15:59.000 Sorry, bro.
02:15:59.000 Or, you got a guy who is preparing for a photo shoot who's in a very unhealthy and dehydrated state.
02:16:08.000 When you see those guys, for people that don't know if you watch bodybuilding, and you see those guys and they're on that Podium that stage and they're flexing and you see the striations.
02:16:19.000 They will black out.
02:16:21.000 If you made those guys run up a hill, they would literally black out and fall down.
02:16:25.000 They have zero endurance.
02:16:27.000 They would die if that competition lasted four days.
02:16:30.000 Oh, yeah.
02:16:31.000 They'd be dead.
02:16:31.000 They'd be dead.
02:16:31.000 They'd be dead.
02:16:32.000 If it was like an endurance thing where you had to keep the competition going over days and days, they would be gone.
02:16:37.000 Dead.
02:16:37.000 They would be gone.
02:16:38.000 Yeah, they don't look like that.
02:16:39.000 Yeah, it's not healthy.
02:16:41.000 You can't do that.
02:16:42.000 So, if men had a body dysmorphia thing, it would be about being ripped.
02:16:48.000 Like, that's why when that girl was fucking with you and saying you were soft, you're like...
02:16:54.000 She's saying, you don't look like this unrealistic person from these magazines that I finger myself to.
02:17:00.000 And I said, bitch, you don't look like Nicki Minaj.
02:17:02.000 What are we going to do?
02:17:04.000 What are we going to do?
02:17:05.000 But Nicki Minaj, she wasn't even popular.
02:17:06.000 Back then, she wasn't popular.
02:17:07.000 Didn't really work.
02:17:08.000 I probably said...
02:17:09.000 Did you guys have an argument over it?
02:17:10.000 No, I was just like...
02:17:12.000 You were hurt?
02:17:13.000 Yeah, and I was like, sad, sad.
02:17:18.000 I used to date this girl who used to tell me about her ex-boyfriend.
02:17:20.000 She dated this big giant bodybuilder dude that he used to pick her up and fuck her up against the wall.
02:17:26.000 And I'm like, do you really think I want to hear that?
02:17:28.000 I don't want to know that stuff.
02:17:29.000 Why do you want to tell me about some big guy who used to pick you up and fuck you against the wall?
02:17:34.000 Because I can pick you up and fuck you against the wall.
02:17:36.000 You're not that big.
02:17:37.000 Yeah, no.
02:17:38.000 It's not special.
02:17:39.000 Yeah, I'm strong enough to do that.
02:17:41.000 But I don't need to know about other dudes fucking you.
02:17:43.000 I don't want to know any of them.
02:17:43.000 I like to pretend.
02:17:44.000 Dude, I like to pretend my girl, I'm the first one.
02:17:46.000 I don't fucking picture any of that, man.
02:17:48.000 I used to do a bit about that, that every girl should say, is that what a dick looks like?
02:17:53.000 I'm so glad I waited.
02:17:54.000 That would be great.
02:17:56.000 That's fucking brilliant.
02:17:58.000 This is how I've always thought it would be the best way to suck it, and then just do an ace, five-star.
02:18:03.000 Porno style.
02:18:04.000 Just like, damn, girl.
02:18:05.000 Shit.
02:18:07.000 Wifey.
02:18:07.000 And you're like, wait a minute.
02:18:08.000 How'd you learn?
02:18:09.000 Hold on.
02:18:09.000 I don't want to know.
02:18:11.000 I don't want to know.
02:18:12.000 I'll just pretend you fucking learned it off videos.
02:18:15.000 Speaking of dicks, did you see...
02:18:18.000 Speaking of dicks.
02:18:20.000 Justin Bieber's dick?
02:18:21.000 Is that what you're going to bring up?
02:18:21.000 I knew it.
02:18:22.000 I knew it.
02:18:23.000 I knew it.
02:18:24.000 I knew you were going to bring up his dick.
02:18:25.000 Dude.
02:18:26.000 He's got a good dick.
02:18:27.000 Good sized hoggy on him.
02:18:28.000 Kid's happy.
02:18:29.000 Kid's killing the game, bro.
02:18:31.000 Do you think that maybe he pulled it out a little, fluffed it up?
02:18:34.000 Got a little blood flow?
02:18:35.000 Knew everybody was going to see it.
02:18:37.000 He had that dime piece of a girl waiting on the couch, so I'm sure he boned her.
02:18:41.000 He's Justin Bieber.
02:18:42.000 And I was like, you know what?
02:18:43.000 I'm going to get butt naked, play some guitar on the balcony, and someone caught him.
02:18:46.000 I don't think he's walking around with that big old hog like that.
02:18:49.000 That's true.
02:18:51.000 He's gifted, though.
02:18:52.000 Maybe he doesn't give a fuck.
02:18:54.000 Maybe when you have $300 million and you're 19, you're like, maybe I'll just go show my hog to everybody.
02:19:00.000 For real.
02:19:00.000 Take my hog out for a walk.
02:19:02.000 Especially...
02:19:04.000 Take that hog out on the balcony.
02:19:06.000 Take this hog out for a little stroll.
02:19:08.000 And he's got to think, like, as famous as he is, that everything he does, he's constantly got people trying to take pictures of him.
02:19:14.000 You know what?
02:19:14.000 If you have that hoggy, though, it's like, fuck it.
02:19:17.000 Why not?
02:19:18.000 Let it breathe, bro.
02:19:20.000 Let it shine.
02:19:22.000 Quit hating on the dick.
02:19:23.000 That's a good point.
02:19:24.000 Yeah, right?
02:19:25.000 It's a very good point.
02:19:25.000 You know, a legit point.
02:19:26.000 Good for him.
02:19:26.000 See, that's something.
02:19:28.000 Forget about squats.
02:19:29.000 Forget about tit implants.
02:19:31.000 Oof.
02:19:31.000 Lips.
02:19:31.000 They're not a goddamn thing you can do.
02:19:33.000 Nothing.
02:19:34.000 Isn't that incredible?
02:19:35.000 That if you look at the game, the genetic game, all right, that one of the number one things is dick size.
02:19:42.000 Number one things.
02:19:43.000 Number one.
02:19:44.000 One of the number one things.
02:19:45.000 And that is the one fucking nut that science can't crack.
02:19:48.000 We could put a man on the moon.
02:19:50.000 We can send video from your fucking cell phone to a dude in Australia instantaneously.
02:19:56.000 You could download Netflix on the ride to the airport.
02:20:02.000 I mean, you're pulling movies out of the sky.
02:20:05.000 You can do some shit.
02:20:06.000 God damn, you can do some shit.
02:20:07.000 You could Skype with people that are on the other side of the planet.
02:20:10.000 Talk to them in real time.
02:20:12.000 Look at them like I'm looking at you.
02:20:14.000 That's all possible.
02:20:15.000 Can't fix that dick.
02:20:17.000 Can't fix that dick, bro.
02:20:18.000 Sorry.
02:20:19.000 How close are you getting?
02:20:21.000 Not close at all.
02:20:22.000 Not close, man.
02:20:22.000 We can't figure shit out.
02:20:24.000 Nothing.
02:20:24.000 We could cut the tendon in the bottom and stretch it out, but I mean, whatever.
02:20:27.000 Good luck with that, though.
02:20:29.000 It gives you me half an inch.
02:20:30.000 My buddy, I won't say his name, obviously, has a small dick.
02:20:33.000 I was at his house a while ago, found a dick extender for his girl.
02:20:38.000 Oh.
02:20:38.000 He saw me see this fucking adapter, and I just looked at him and said, I get it, bro.
02:20:44.000 I get it.
02:20:45.000 I could have roasted him hard, hard for having a tiny dick and having a dick extender.
02:20:51.000 Now, when you say dick extender, like a rubber dick that you put on top of your actual dick?
02:20:55.000 Yeah, to help your girl out.
02:20:56.000 Because he has a tater tot dick, so he put this thing on top of it.
02:21:02.000 It's a bummer, bro.
02:21:05.000 Me being the nice guy, I just looked at him and said, I get it.
02:21:08.000 It's just, it is what it is.
02:21:10.000 Carry on with your night.
02:21:11.000 It is what it is, man.
02:21:12.000 It's a bummer, man.
02:21:13.000 You can't do shit.
02:21:14.000 Like, if you're real skinny, alright.
02:21:16.000 Whatever.
02:21:16.000 You can lift weights, eat right.
02:21:17.000 Maybe even buy some steroids.
02:21:19.000 You can figure some shit out.
02:21:20.000 Like you said, you're dick.
02:21:21.000 We got 3D printing where we're making all sorts of fucking new organs, whatever the fuck you want.
02:21:25.000 We can't do dicks.
02:21:26.000 I got a question.
02:21:27.000 Yeah.
02:21:27.000 When you see, like, women that are bodybuilders, and they take steroids, their clit grows, and their clit becomes like a dick.
02:21:35.000 Yeah.
02:21:35.000 Do you think if a dude got on some crazy-ass fucking steroids, would it make his dick grow?
02:21:41.000 Like, if you got on some wild, silverback, Mark Coleman, 1996-type steroids.
02:21:47.000 Oop, dog.
02:21:48.000 You have to ask Mark Goldman.
02:21:50.000 Some top-of-the-fucking-food-chain-Alexander Corellin-type shit.
02:21:55.000 Some Pujanowski.
02:21:59.000 Wouldn't your dick grow?
02:22:00.000 I feel like it would.
02:22:01.000 I think it would grow.
02:22:02.000 Your balls are gonna shrivel up like raisins, but your dick is gonna be fat.
02:22:06.000 Your balls are gonna have to step away from the game.
02:22:08.000 They're not doing the job.
02:22:09.000 You know, it's like, what if you have a four-cylinder engine in your race car?
02:22:12.000 And someone comes along and say, listen, we got one or two choices.
02:22:14.000 We can either take out this bitch-ass four-cylinder and put in this LS7 six-point-whatever-liter motherfucking fire-breathing dragon engine, or you can keep up with your bullshit fuel economy and that shitty putt-putt.
02:22:29.000 What are we gonna do?
02:22:30.000 Are we here to win races?
02:22:31.000 Well, you take that crazy...
02:22:34.000 You know, Mark Kerr, Circa, 2001. You know, Mark Kerr, the smashing machine at its peak.
02:22:42.000 Take some of that stuff.
02:22:44.000 Bro, I think, you know what?
02:22:45.000 I don't know if your dick grows longer.
02:22:46.000 I think it might get fatter.
02:22:48.000 It might get bigger, too.
02:22:48.000 I mean, if the girl's clit gets bigger.
02:22:51.000 Is this Dustin Jacoby next?
02:22:53.000 Is that next?
02:22:54.000 Oh, that's a good fight.
02:22:55.000 That's the co-main event.
02:22:56.000 Beautiful.
02:22:57.000 Denver product.
02:22:59.000 Yeah, he's a tough kid, man.
02:23:00.000 Fun UFC, too, right?
02:23:01.000 Yes, he did.
02:23:02.000 Tough kid.
02:23:04.000 I wonder.
02:23:05.000 I think genetic engineering is going to be where it's all at.
02:23:08.000 That's what's going to fix.
02:23:09.000 Yeah, we'll get there.
02:23:10.000 Pretty soon everyone's going to be walking around with fat asses, big dicks, big noses.
02:23:16.000 Yeah, I used to have this bit about big dick pills.
02:23:18.000 That if big dick pills really worked, it would take about 30 minutes for the first guy to die of an overdose.
02:23:26.000 I go, because no one's going to take one.
02:23:29.000 If big dick pills work, one makes my dick grow?
02:23:33.000 What if I take all of them?
02:23:34.000 How much do I take before I die?
02:23:37.000 And I'll take one less than that.
02:23:38.000 We'll get this fucking party rolling.
02:23:41.000 And I was like, there's Jacoby fighting that guy that we just saw that won earlier right there.
02:23:47.000 Jacoby's one of the guys who beat him.
02:23:49.000 The guy that we saw earlier that knocked out Bang Bang.
02:23:52.000 These last two fights are going to be dope.
02:23:53.000 Yeah.
02:23:54.000 And Wayne Barrett's a bad motherfucker.
02:23:55.000 He's very good.
02:23:56.000 Super athletic.
02:23:57.000 Real quick.
02:23:58.000 Real sneaky man.
02:24:00.000 Really, really good athlete.
02:24:02.000 Good boxer, too.
02:24:02.000 He's a good boxer before he got into kickboxing.
02:24:06.000 He's a real good athlete, too.
02:24:08.000 There's a lot of real good guys at the high level in this.
02:24:10.000 I mean, you know Schilling.
02:24:13.000 I wonder how it works with Glory.
02:24:15.000 Like, are they contracted to Glory where they can't fight anywhere else?
02:24:17.000 He fights for Bellator, too.
02:24:19.000 But, you know, Bellator and Glory are friendly, but can he fight elsewhere?
02:24:23.000 Can he fight over in Japan or in Thailand?
02:24:25.000 I don't know how his contracts set up.
02:24:26.000 I wonder how those contracts are.
02:24:27.000 I don't know.
02:24:29.000 Because it has to be tough for a lot of guys.
02:24:31.000 They have Paul Daly.
02:24:32.000 He's in both.
02:24:33.000 Bellator and...
02:24:35.000 Like I said, that makes sense for those guys.
02:24:37.000 Whatever it is, for whatever reason.
02:24:40.000 Bellator has been around for a long time now.
02:24:42.000 It's been around for several years.
02:24:45.000 And for whatever fucking reason, it just has not caught on the way the UFC caught on in the early 2000s.
02:24:51.000 Oh, never well.
02:24:52.000 That doesn't make sense to me.
02:24:53.000 They don't have the stars, they don't have the depth, they don't have the production crew, they don't have the money, right?
02:24:58.000 They have Viacom money.
02:24:59.000 And that's crazy money.
02:25:00.000 Well, why doesn't Viacom say, look, we could either have this middling product where we're always going to have good guys like Phil Davis and Tito Ortiz and Schlamenko and good fighters, or we can go balls out and we can get the really good guys.
02:25:17.000 Like who?
02:25:18.000 Anybody that's in contract negotiations.
02:25:20.000 Chad Mendes was talking to them.
02:25:22.000 When Chad Mendes had, you know, his contract is about to come up.
02:25:25.000 You don't think that he got offers?
02:25:26.000 I don't know what his deal was, and I don't think he was even thinking about going, but you don't think that Rampage went over there?
02:25:31.000 You know, Rampage is in a lawsuit right now where he's got to figure out where he's going to fight again.
02:25:35.000 If he is ever going to fight again.
02:25:37.000 The UFC said they would let him go.
02:25:39.000 Oh, really?
02:25:40.000 Yeah, they said, look, we understand that you're in this big lawsuit with Viacom, and Viacom's threatening to sue.
02:25:45.000 The UFC said, we'll let you go.
02:25:46.000 You could go and fight for them.
02:25:48.000 That's dope, man.
02:25:49.000 That's cool for them to do that.
02:25:50.000 I think they're offering to settle.
02:25:51.000 I think Viacom's offering to settle.
02:25:53.000 Because they did violate his contract.
02:25:55.000 They did, 100%.
02:25:57.000 And he did fight Fabio Maldonado afterwards.
02:25:59.000 The judge cleared him to fight.
02:26:00.000 Yeah.
02:26:01.000 So I don't know what the specifics of the case was, but the last that I read was that year.
02:26:06.000 You're looking at a 10-year investment where we're going to have to get these young guys from the UFC, and then we're going to have to recruit the younger guys who come up.
02:26:14.000 Because guys come up through the ranks, right?
02:26:16.000 Like Phil Davis or the Ultimate Fighter came up through the Ultimate Fighter, a bunch of guys did.
02:26:21.000 They have to figure out kind of their feeder systems.
02:26:23.000 Because right now all they're doing is biting off the UFC. Really?
02:26:26.000 Let's be honest.
02:26:27.000 Really?
02:26:27.000 Yeah.
02:26:28.000 They're putting on B-level, C-level shows that the UFC put on five, six years ago.
02:26:33.000 Yeah.
02:26:33.000 Phil Davis kind of the first guy who's in his prime who went there.
02:26:36.000 Mm-hmm.
02:26:36.000 You know, but Phil Davis isn't a knockout artist.
02:26:38.000 I love Phil.
02:26:39.000 Well, Phil Davis just knocked out, uh, what's his face?
02:26:42.000 Um, um, uh, Hold, hold.
02:26:45.000 He's from Montreal.
02:26:46.000 Francis Carmon.
02:26:47.000 Carmon.
02:26:48.000 Carmon's a very good fighter, and Davis beat the shit out of him, man.
02:26:50.000 I knocked him out.
02:26:51.000 He looked nasty.
02:26:52.000 No, Davis fucked those dudes up.
02:26:54.000 It's like he turned a corner.
02:26:56.000 Did he turn a corner?
02:26:58.000 Is he fighting lesser competition?
02:27:00.000 Both.
02:27:00.000 I think both.
02:27:01.000 I agree.
02:27:02.000 I think Davis is getting better, and I think Davis is in his prime, and he's going to run that show for a very, very long time.
02:27:08.000 I was super impressed when he beat Glover.
02:27:10.000 I was like, wow, that is a big victory.
02:27:12.000 But I think Glover had a shit camp.
02:27:14.000 I really do.
02:27:15.000 Still a big victory, though.
02:27:16.000 Whatever excuse Glover makes, that's a huge victory.
02:27:19.000 100%.
02:27:20.000 But I was disappointed when he lost to Bader.
02:27:24.000 But then when you see the way Bader beat Rashad, you're like, look, you need to consider Bader the way he is right now.
02:27:29.000 Don't consider how Bader got knocked out by Glover or Bader that got knocked out by Machida.
02:27:34.000 Bader just won, what, five in a row?
02:27:34.000 He's won five in a row and look fucking real good.
02:27:37.000 Guess what's next for him though?
02:27:38.000 You're a motherfucker.
02:27:40.000 Yeah.
02:27:40.000 Anthony Johnson.
02:27:41.000 Yeah.
02:27:41.000 Couldn't be a worse matchup for me.
02:27:42.000 Is that happening?
02:27:43.000 Because Rumble asked for it.
02:27:44.000 Well, I think that's what's next for him.
02:27:45.000 Because what are you going to do?
02:27:46.000 You're going to sit out and wait for John and DC to fight?
02:27:49.000 Who knows how long that's going to be.
02:27:50.000 They're going to make you fight.
02:27:51.000 Rumble's terrifying.
02:27:53.000 Rumble's terrifying, and I can't think of a worse matchup for Bader, and I love Bader.
02:27:56.000 But if I'm Bader, I'd rather fight Jon Jones than Rumble.
02:28:01.000 I can't think of a worse matchup for him.
02:28:02.000 There's some interesting fights at 205. Real interesting.
02:28:06.000 Real interesting.
02:28:06.000 I was really surprised how well he shut Rashad down.
02:28:09.000 I was really surprised.
02:28:10.000 I was like, wow, Bader has really turned a corner.
02:28:14.000 He's really turned a corner.
02:28:15.000 I think that's a tough fight to say that.
02:28:17.000 Well, it is because Rashad had two years layoff, but Bader looked real good.
02:28:22.000 I'm only basing it on how good Bader looked.
02:28:24.000 He looked real good.
02:28:25.000 He looked real smooth with his stand-up.
02:28:27.000 He's getting way better.
02:28:28.000 His jab is nasty, man.
02:28:30.000 His jab's getting really good.
02:28:46.000 I agree.
02:28:49.000 I agree.
02:28:51.000 He looks great.
02:28:58.000 Bader does look great.
02:29:00.000 I think it's tough to base it off the Rashad fight.
02:29:04.000 I agree with you.
02:29:05.000 I agree with you.
02:29:05.000 That was a real tough fight for Rashad.
02:29:07.000 I think Rashad would have done better to have a fight with someone who wasn't in a...
02:29:10.000 A warm-up or something.
02:29:11.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:29:11.000 But think about Bader, man.
02:29:12.000 Think what Bader's come from.
02:29:13.000 Remember when he lost to fucking Tito Ortiz and it was two in a row?
02:29:16.000 Remember when he lost to Tito Ortiz?
02:29:18.000 Mm-hmm.
02:29:19.000 Remember Tito Ortiz was like, I can hit him.
02:29:21.000 He like fell down.
02:29:22.000 Well, he hit him and then he choked him.
02:29:23.000 Submitted him, yeah.
02:29:23.000 Yeah.
02:29:24.000 But that, you know what, man?
02:29:25.000 That was a motherfucker, man.
02:29:26.000 Tito Ortiz, if he's on and he catches you, he's still Tito Ortiz.
02:29:31.000 Oh, he's Tito Ortiz.
02:29:32.000 One of the best of all time.
02:29:33.000 Gotta remember, he was at one point in time the motherfucker.
02:29:36.000 Baddest guy on Earth for a while.
02:29:38.000 I mean, not really, because Chuck was always out there.
02:29:40.000 We always knew that Chuck was out there.
02:29:42.000 But before he fought Chuck, when you think of what he did to Evan Tanner, you think of the beatdowns he put on Ken Shamrock.
02:29:49.000 Yeah, man.
02:29:50.000 Tito Ortiz is still the way...
02:29:52.000 He's like one of the first guys to ever use a one-arm guillotine.
02:29:55.000 He choked out Yuki Kondo in Japan.
02:29:57.000 Remember that?
02:29:58.000 Well, think about...
02:30:00.000 Was that Japan?
02:30:01.000 I think it was.
02:30:01.000 Well, think about Bader, though.
02:30:03.000 He was two loss in a row and just lost to Tito Ortiz.
02:30:05.000 He was like on the chopping block, man.
02:30:07.000 I remember just being like, damn, really, Bader?
02:30:09.000 Well, that dude just kept working.
02:30:11.000 Dustin Jacoby is going after Wayne Barrett.
02:30:13.000 This is a dangerous fight for Jacoby because Barrett has fought more elite competition.
02:30:17.000 He's fought Joe Schilling, beat Joe Schilling once, lost to Joe Schilling in the last fight, knocked Joe Schilling down.
02:30:25.000 He's dangerous.
02:30:26.000 And Jacoby...
02:30:28.000 I forget the Brazilian cat that he got knocked out by.
02:30:31.000 Did I say McNichols Arena?
02:30:33.000 That arena's been shut down for literally 15 years.
02:30:35.000 That's Magnus Arena.
02:30:38.000 Magnus.
02:30:38.000 McNichols is old school where UFC 2 and 3 happen.
02:30:42.000 Dude, this is a good fight.
02:30:43.000 Wayne Barrett.
02:30:45.000 He's slick, man.
02:30:46.000 Look at that.
02:30:47.000 Whoops.
02:30:48.000 Not here.
02:30:50.000 Yeah.
02:30:51.000 Jacoby's, like, super aggressive, too.
02:30:53.000 I forget the dude that he fought, this badass Brazilian cat.
02:30:57.000 What's Dustin Jacoby's record?
02:31:00.000 A badass dude who caught him with a left hook.
02:31:02.000 Dude, it's tough because Jacoby came to the UFC and just struggled, right?
02:31:05.000 Because you can't fight like this.
02:31:07.000 It's tough to get off like this.
02:31:09.000 It's a different style, fighting with the small gloves.
02:31:12.000 That's for sure.
02:31:14.000 Who did he lose to?
02:31:15.000 That's MMA. Yeah, that's his MMA. That's all MMA. See if you find Dustin Jacoby's kickboxing career.
02:31:27.000 Good duck under.
02:31:29.000 Slicky duck under, that looping right hand.
02:31:33.000 It's just the big gloves thing, the defense is so much different.
02:31:37.000 Oh, 100%.
02:31:38.000 And that's what happened with Schilling.
02:31:39.000 In Schilling's last fight, he got caught with that Superman punch by that dude.
02:31:43.000 That was bad.
02:31:43.000 It was ruthless.
02:31:45.000 Shit happens.
02:31:45.000 But those punches, they come down on angles.
02:31:48.000 There he is.
02:31:52.000 Damn, that stretch from 13 to 15 was tough.
02:31:56.000 Why can't I read that?
02:31:58.000 Casey Green, Ariel...
02:32:00.000 No, Pereira?
02:32:01.000 Alex Pereira?
02:32:02.000 Yeah, it was a Pereira fight.
02:32:04.000 He lost to Pereira, yeah.
02:32:05.000 Yeah, that's who it was.
02:32:06.000 It was Pereira.
02:32:07.000 Damn, he's fought all over.
02:32:09.000 Yeah.
02:32:10.000 It's a totally different style of defense when you're using the small gloves.
02:32:14.000 The big gloves give you so much more leeway to catching punches, and the punches themselves are bigger, the gloves are bigger.
02:32:21.000 So the punches are coming at you, it's a larger object coming at you, and you have a larger object to catch that larger object.
02:32:28.000 And all that shit is shrunken considerably when you put those MMA gloves into the mask.
02:32:32.000 Oh, dude, night and day.
02:32:32.000 It'd be like these guys fighting with their hand wraps on.
02:32:34.000 It's a completely different game.
02:32:36.000 What do you think about the idea of no gloves?
02:32:40.000 It won't work.
02:32:41.000 No?
02:32:42.000 Well, if you hate money and ratings, it'll work.
02:32:46.000 You know what I'm saying?
02:32:48.000 Like, it's rough enough now being mainstream.
02:32:51.000 I don't think we're still mainstream.
02:32:53.000 I think we're still working on that with the top sports.
02:32:55.000 You take gloves off and these dudes are bare knuckle fucking dudes up?
02:32:59.000 Yeah, it makes sense to us, right?
02:33:01.000 It makes sense to the educated people, but, I mean, mid-America sees that shit, general people, they're like, what the hell?
02:33:08.000 This is so barbaric.
02:33:10.000 Right.
02:33:11.000 Maybe.
02:33:11.000 That's the only thing.
02:33:13.000 Yeah, maybe.
02:33:15.000 I don't know, man.
02:33:16.000 I mean, why is it barbaric to punch in the face and not barbaric to knee in the face?
02:33:21.000 Joe, I'm with you 100%.
02:33:22.000 Take the gloves off.
02:33:23.000 It's safer.
02:33:24.000 It is.
02:33:25.000 It is.
02:33:25.000 I'm with you.
02:33:26.000 However, marketing-wise, good luck selling that.
02:33:29.000 They're like, hold up.
02:33:29.000 We're going back to the Kimbo Slice backyard brawl days?
02:33:32.000 I thought we were moving forward.
02:33:33.000 Well, you would have a lot of dudes breaking their hands too.
02:33:36.000 That would be a real problem.
02:33:37.000 It would be a real problem for, like, longevity of your career.
02:33:39.000 And people think I'm exaggerating.
02:33:41.000 Listen, take away the hand wraps.
02:33:43.000 Take away the wrist wraps.
02:33:44.000 No wrist wraps.
02:33:45.000 Because I think one of the flaws of the human hand For punching is the wrist.
02:33:51.000 It's hard.
02:33:52.000 Like you have to have real discipline to punch hard and you have to practice hitting things bare knuckle to really develop that rigidity in your wrist when you deliver the impact of a punch.
02:34:02.000 Because most people when they hit things, their wrist bends back and twists sideways.
02:34:06.000 Most people don't know.
02:34:07.000 They wind up breaking their hands.
02:34:08.000 They hit with the knuckles, the outside.
02:34:10.000 That's why boss would open hand slap pitches.
02:34:13.000 Well, he had to.
02:34:14.000 That's why he started doing that.
02:34:14.000 No, he was fighting in pancreas.
02:34:16.000 That's the only way he could fight.
02:34:17.000 He figured that was the rules of pancreas.
02:34:19.000 He also did it, though, when they had gloves.
02:34:20.000 He used open-hand shit.
02:34:22.000 Really?
02:34:22.000 Yeah.
02:34:23.000 When they had gloves, he did that?
02:34:24.000 Yeah.
02:34:25.000 He would throw his hooks with an open hand, he said.
02:34:27.000 Interesting.
02:34:28.000 Yeah.
02:34:29.000 Huh.
02:34:30.000 Well, that's one of the reasons why he probably transferred so easily to pancreas.
02:34:34.000 Damn, this is a good fight.
02:34:35.000 You know, one of the things that Boss figured out how to do in some weird way, he figured out how to pull his hand back way far.
02:34:41.000 So when he was hitting guys, he was hitting them like a punch with the palm, with the base of the palm, like right where it reaches, like where the palm meets the wrist joint.
02:34:53.000 He would pull his hand so far back, like unnaturally far.
02:34:57.000 If you watch his fights, it's kind of weird how far his hands go back.
02:35:00.000 He was like the first freak athlete to get the...
02:35:02.000 I mean, he was a freak athlete, man.
02:35:04.000 He was the first elite striker in MMA, in my opinion.
02:35:07.000 Him and Moe Smith.
02:35:08.000 But he was probably the first, because with Moe, he really didn't know any grappling to speak of.
02:35:14.000 When he first started fighting in Pancrase, he really had to learn more grappling before we could see...
02:35:20.000 Like, in extreme fighting, you got to see what his kickboxing was really like.
02:35:24.000 When he knocked out Conan Silviera...
02:35:26.000 That's when everybody was like, oh shit, this is some next level shit.
02:35:30.000 And then when he came over to the UFC and beat Mark Coleman and won the title, people were like, okay, this is what a kickboxer really looks like, a world-class kickboxer.
02:35:40.000 Boss said he taught himself jiu-jitsu.
02:35:42.000 That's madness.
02:35:43.000 Crazy, right?
02:35:44.000 He'd watch videos and teach himself.
02:35:46.000 Had a training partner.
02:35:47.000 Him and his training partner would learn on each other.
02:35:49.000 Come here.
02:35:49.000 I tried this on you.
02:35:50.000 How crazy is that?
02:35:51.000 I believe it.
02:35:52.000 Boss is crazy.
02:35:54.000 He has some crazy ideas about conditioning, too.
02:35:57.000 He goes, when I would kick the bag, I would go 100%.
02:36:00.000 And how long can I do?
02:36:02.000 30 seconds?
02:36:03.000 100%.
02:36:03.000 Well, tomorrow I'll do 40 seconds.
02:36:06.000 And then I'd do two minutes.
02:36:07.000 He's a crazy dude.
02:36:08.000 He would build it up so that he could get to whatever the round was.
02:36:11.000 He would just sprint.
02:36:12.000 God.
02:36:15.000 That's a different time back then.
02:36:17.000 Well, they didn't, you know, now people do Tabata when you do...
02:36:22.000 They do an elliptical and shit.
02:36:24.000 Yeah.
02:36:24.000 You do, like, intervals, like Tabata intervals.
02:36:27.000 What is Tabata?
02:36:28.000 It's like 20 seconds on, 10 seconds off.
02:36:31.000 That's the typical Tabata.
02:36:34.000 What I do when I do a sprint, like if I'm in a hotel and I have nothing but an elliptical machine in the gym, I'll do sprints on the elliptical machine where I'll crank it up to a really high level.
02:36:45.000 And I'll do 30 minutes of thunder, I call it.
02:36:48.000 Or 30 seconds of thunder.
02:36:49.000 I was like, 30 minutes?
02:36:50.000 Goddamn.
02:36:51.000 Well, 30 minutes for the whole workout.
02:36:53.000 But for the thunder, it's 30 seconds on, 30 seconds off.
02:36:58.000 It gives me something to do.
02:36:59.000 And those 30 seconds off, I know it's coming.
02:37:04.000 I know it's coming.
02:37:04.000 Here comes that fucking 29. It makes it go by faster, though.
02:37:07.000 I think it's a better way to do it.
02:37:08.000 Yeah.
02:37:09.000 Because you're not so focused on the overall time.
02:37:10.000 You're more focused on 30, 30, 30, 30, 30. Yeah.
02:37:13.000 It also gets you used to being just completely...
02:37:15.000 Completely exerted.
02:37:16.000 It's a great way to get a cardio workout in on a piece of...
02:37:21.000 When people think of hardcore workouts, you think of an Airdyne or maybe a VersaClimber.
02:37:27.000 Those you think of as hardcore.
02:37:28.000 A VersaClimber, you can get the same kind of insane workout on an elliptical machine.
02:37:34.000 100%.
02:37:34.000 But people associate elliptical with like, you're watching the news, going slow.
02:37:41.000 When I use the elliptical machine, people look at me like something fucking wrong with me.
02:37:43.000 Yeah, I go hard in the paint on an elliptical.
02:37:45.000 I go fucking hard on the elliptical now.
02:37:48.000 Hard in the paint?
02:37:48.000 Hard in the paint.
02:37:49.000 What does that mean?
02:37:50.000 Just like, it's basketball terms, right?
02:37:52.000 Like hard in the paint.
02:37:53.000 Oh, the paint.
02:37:54.000 I go hard in the motherfucking paint.
02:37:57.000 Is this round two or three?
02:38:00.000 Round three.
02:38:01.000 Damn, Dustin Jacoby.
02:38:04.000 You know how guys, we're starting to see a trend where guys are sparring less and less because they realize the abuse in the gym?
02:38:11.000 That Rodriguez was saying how he only sparred three times, I think, in camp?
02:38:15.000 Yeah, Yair.
02:38:16.000 I think Brian Stan was saying that.
02:38:19.000 Yeah, three times.
02:38:20.000 Dustin Jacoby really taking it to him, man.
02:38:23.000 He looks great.
02:38:24.000 He looks really improved, too, from the Pereira fight.
02:38:28.000 I think that knockout really taught him a lot about defense.
02:38:32.000 He's looking great in this fight, man.
02:38:33.000 Good leg kick right there.
02:38:35.000 Barrett's throwing with the frickin' 130. But look how easy it is to block punches with these goddamn big gloves.
02:38:40.000 It's such a different game.
02:38:42.000 It's so different.
02:38:43.000 Look at this.
02:38:45.000 John Wayne Parr, when he does that cage Muay Thai, do they wear MMA gloves?
02:38:50.000 MMA gloves.
02:38:51.000 Yeah?
02:38:51.000 He has a fight coming up, right?
02:38:53.000 He's coming out here soon.
02:38:54.000 He's fighting Black Dynamite in cage Muay Thai, and he's out here fighting for the title.
02:39:00.000 In San Diego?
02:39:01.000 Yeah.
02:39:02.000 In Lion Fight.
02:39:03.000 He's going to fight for the title.
02:39:04.000 I like that guy, too.
02:39:05.000 He's a good dude.
02:39:06.000 Yeah, really good dude.
02:39:07.000 Funny.
02:39:08.000 Yeah, I got to work out with him, man.
02:39:09.000 He showed me some really interesting way of throwing punches.
02:39:14.000 Like, he throws everything hard.
02:39:16.000 Like, even his jab is hard.
02:39:17.000 He makes it count.
02:39:18.000 His jab, he pulls back with his right hand.
02:39:21.000 Oh, shit.
02:39:22.000 Wayne Barrett went down.
02:39:23.000 What happened?
02:39:26.000 Oh, my God.
02:39:27.000 He was touching the back of his head like it was a bad strike.
02:39:31.000 Damn, he's out of it.
02:39:32.000 Oh, he's super out of it.
02:39:34.000 That's it.
02:39:35.000 Whoa.
02:39:36.000 Dustin Jacoby knocked out Wayne Barrett.
02:39:38.000 And Wayne Barrett, he was pointing to the back of his head.
02:39:41.000 He pointed to the back of his head earlier in the fight, too.
02:39:43.000 Damn, Dustin Jacoby.
02:39:45.000 Congratulations.
02:39:46.000 Good for you.
02:39:48.000 What was I just saying?
02:39:50.000 Fucking...
02:39:52.000 John Wayne Parr.
02:39:53.000 John Wayne Parr.
02:39:54.000 He throws punches like this.
02:39:56.000 He pulls back on his right hand.
02:39:58.000 This is how he throws a jab.
02:40:00.000 He goes like that.
02:40:01.000 Jesus Christ.
02:40:03.000 I worked out with him for like an hour and a half.
02:40:07.000 Was that awesome?
02:40:08.000 Yeah, it was really fun.
02:40:09.000 He's a good dude.
02:40:09.000 He showed me a lot of cool shit, too.
02:40:11.000 A lot of cool shit.
02:40:12.000 Like, the way he delivers knees is interesting, too.
02:40:14.000 Damn, that is legit as fuck.
02:40:15.000 Hell yeah.
02:40:16.000 What does he point in the back of his head for?
02:40:18.000 Let's see that again.
02:40:19.000 He was getting battered before he got dropped there.
02:40:22.000 I mean, that was not just that one shot, either.
02:40:25.000 What happened?
02:40:27.000 Oh, they went to a commercial.
02:40:29.000 Wanted to see that knockdown again.
02:40:31.000 That's the other thing, man.
02:40:32.000 I don't miss boxing.
02:40:33.000 Any boxing.
02:40:34.000 I watch fucking all of it.
02:40:35.000 We have a thing, right?
02:40:37.000 Can we rewind that for a second?
02:40:38.000 I just want to see that knocked out again.
02:40:40.000 That'd be nice.
02:40:41.000 I forgot.
02:40:41.000 We have the DVR up in this bitch.
02:40:45.000 Yeah, there it is.
02:40:46.000 No, right before that, Jamie.
02:40:49.000 Right before that.
02:40:50.000 Oh.
02:40:50.000 Right before that.
02:40:51.000 There we go.
02:40:51.000 Here we go.
02:40:52.000 This is the money maker.
02:40:53.000 Here we go.
02:40:54.000 Boom.
02:40:55.000 On the temple.
02:40:56.000 Boom.
02:40:56.000 That's good.
02:40:57.000 Chin.
02:40:58.000 Back of the head.
02:40:58.000 Oh, that's 100% good.
02:40:59.000 That's the side of the head.
02:41:00.000 That's the temple.
02:41:01.000 I'd say that's the back of the head.
02:41:03.000 Let me see that again.
02:41:04.000 Where I come from, that'd be back of the head.
02:41:04.000 Boom.
02:41:04.000 Left hook.
02:41:05.000 Bam.
02:41:06.000 No.
02:41:06.000 No chance.
02:41:07.000 Bro, sis.
02:41:08.000 That is the back of the head.
02:41:09.000 Make it slow, Jamie.
02:41:10.000 Make it go slow.
02:41:10.000 It's legal.
02:41:11.000 It's legal, though.
02:41:11.000 Hold on.
02:41:12.000 But make it go slow.
02:41:12.000 That's a fucking temple, dude.
02:41:14.000 Watch this.
02:41:14.000 Bro, that would be back of the head.
02:41:15.000 Hold on.
02:41:15.000 Make it slow.
02:41:17.000 Isn't there a slow button?
02:41:18.000 There's a slow-mo thing.
02:41:19.000 I don't know.
02:41:20.000 You press like pause and then I don't know.
02:41:23.000 Double pause?
02:41:24.000 I think pause and then fast forward.
02:41:27.000 Here.
02:41:28.000 Let me see that thing.
02:41:30.000 Isn't there like a small way you can do slow-mo?
02:41:33.000 Pretty sure there is.
02:41:34.000 What is this?
02:41:35.000 No network connection.
02:41:36.000 Cancel.
02:41:37.000 Hold on.
02:41:37.000 Oh, he's saying it's back to the head.
02:41:39.000 What happened here, Jamie?
02:41:40.000 Where am I pressing this to?
02:41:41.000 Where's the receiver?
02:41:42.000 It's in there?
02:41:43.000 Yeah.
02:41:44.000 Well, how does it work?
02:41:45.000 It's RF, radio frequency.
02:41:46.000 Well, it's not reacting.
02:41:49.000 I think you've got to hit cancel on that thing.
02:41:51.000 There you go.
02:41:52.000 Okay, now it's working.
02:41:53.000 Yeah, that's for sure back in the head.
02:41:54.000 But it's legal.
02:41:55.000 You know what I'm saying?
02:41:56.000 It's in transition.
02:41:57.000 Okay.
02:41:57.000 So it's legal.
02:42:02.000 I'm going to take a look at it better.
02:42:03.000 Give me that first view.
02:42:05.000 Let's get a view of it in real time first.
02:42:09.000 Here it is right here.
02:42:11.000 This is where you can see the back of the head.
02:42:12.000 Boom.
02:42:13.000 Bam.
02:42:14.000 See, to me, it looks like the side of the head.
02:42:16.000 Definitely not.
02:42:16.000 He's grabbing this.
02:42:18.000 If this is the side of the head, then I agree.
02:42:19.000 No, that's not where he's grabbing.
02:42:20.000 He's grabbing, like, his temple.
02:42:22.000 How do I make this thing go slow?
02:42:24.000 Let me see if I can do this.
02:42:27.000 I think there's a way.
02:42:30.000 Yeah, here it is.
02:42:31.000 Oh, here we go.
02:42:34.000 Okay.
02:42:34.000 Guy gets the old crazy eyes on him.
02:42:36.000 Okay, ready?
02:42:37.000 Here we go.
02:42:41.000 There's Dustin Jacoby moving in.
02:42:43.000 Check it.
02:42:46.000 Mad pressure by Jacoby, too.
02:42:48.000 Good defense.
02:42:49.000 Look at that.
02:42:49.000 Good defense there.
02:42:50.000 Barrett tried to swing that right hook around.
02:42:52.000 His left hook.
02:42:53.000 And Jacoby, bang, catches him here.
02:42:55.000 100% clean there.
02:42:56.000 That side of the head.
02:42:57.000 Side of the head, which is legit, right?
02:42:59.000 Correct.
02:43:00.000 Okay, let's see.
02:43:01.000 We get a good view of it here.
02:43:02.000 And Barrett really relying on that right hand.
02:43:05.000 Boom.
02:43:06.000 Kind of catches him.
02:43:07.000 Grazes that nose.
02:43:08.000 But that one gets blocked.
02:43:10.000 That one gets blocked.
02:43:11.000 So now he's coming over again.
02:43:12.000 Barrett is, or Jacoby, misses that left.
02:43:16.000 And now here we go.
02:43:17.000 Here goes the back of the head.
02:43:24.000 Look at that.
02:43:26.000 Come on, son.
02:43:26.000 Bro, that's his neck!
02:43:28.000 Look where he's standing.
02:43:29.000 That's basically the back of his neck.
02:43:30.000 Look where he's standing.
02:43:32.000 They're standing staring at each other.
02:43:34.000 Homeboy moves, though.
02:43:35.000 Wayne Barrett turns his head sideways and he hits him right in the temple.
02:43:40.000 Bro, that's not on the temple.
02:43:41.000 It's right here.
02:43:42.000 The side of the head.
02:43:43.000 Look at him.
02:43:43.000 It's not the back of his head.
02:43:44.000 He's not touching right there.
02:43:45.000 He's not touching there.
02:43:46.000 Unless he has a hook for an arm, there's no fucking way that's hitting the back.
02:43:49.000 Bro, look at where it makes impact.
02:43:51.000 Look at that right there.
02:43:51.000 No, look at it right there.
02:43:52.000 It's bouncing off the side of his head, and you see the fist appear behind his head.
02:43:56.000 Bro, that's here.
02:43:57.000 One more time.
02:43:58.000 One more time.
02:43:58.000 Let's watch it again.
02:43:59.000 Watch this again.
02:44:00.000 Boom, that's one.
02:44:02.000 And there's the right hook.
02:44:03.000 Misses.
02:44:04.000 And there's the left hook over the top.
02:44:06.000 Misses.
02:44:07.000 Misses.
02:44:08.000 And here it comes.
02:44:08.000 Here it comes.
02:44:09.000 Look, they're standing right at each other.
02:44:11.000 And the punch comes.
02:44:13.000 Watch where the punch comes.
02:44:15.000 Back of the neck.
02:44:16.000 Look at that punch.
02:44:17.000 Back of the neck.
02:44:17.000 That's not touching him right now.
02:44:18.000 Incorrect.
02:44:20.000 Incorrect.
02:44:21.000 This is a straight punch, right?
02:44:23.000 It lands on the side of his head, and then it glances off the side of his head, and you see the fist behind the head.
02:44:28.000 You don't think that's the impicked out there?
02:44:30.000 No fucking chance.
02:44:31.000 Oh, I disagree.
02:44:32.000 That is not hitting the back of his head.
02:44:34.000 That is hitting the side of his head, and you're seeing the punch.
02:44:36.000 I think with the glove, it's like, here, Joe, look.
02:44:39.000 Like, here.
02:44:40.000 Yeah, that's legal, dude.
02:44:41.000 No, it's illegal.
02:44:42.000 I think that's legal, what he's doing.
02:44:44.000 What are you saying, back of the head?
02:44:45.000 That's the side of the head.
02:44:45.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.
02:44:46.000 That's the side of the head.
02:44:47.000 If you go to punch me and I move like this, and you end up hitting side and back of the head, that's legal.
02:44:52.000 But he's not hitting the back of the head.
02:44:54.000 So he didn't touch the back of his head.
02:44:56.000 He hit the side of his head.
02:44:56.000 No.
02:44:57.000 He touched side and back.
02:44:58.000 I don't know, man.
02:45:00.000 Boom!
02:45:01.000 That, to me, looks more like right behind the ear, which is totally legit.
02:45:05.000 The back of the head, to me, is a rabbit punch.
02:45:08.000 That's where the base of the head meets the neck.
02:45:11.000 So where's this, Joe?
02:45:12.000 That's the back of the ear.
02:45:13.000 That's legal.
02:45:14.000 That's not...
02:45:14.000 There's no...
02:45:15.000 I'm saying that's legal even in MMA. I'm saying it right here.
02:45:18.000 I think you're changing the game.
02:45:19.000 No, no, no.
02:45:20.000 That's back of the head, bro.
02:45:21.000 He's changing the game.
02:45:23.000 Yeah, but it's not.
02:45:24.000 Boom.
02:45:24.000 It's legal.
02:45:25.000 That hit is illegal.
02:45:26.000 Yeah, it's totally legal.
02:45:27.000 Yeah, I agree.
02:45:28.000 It's legal.
02:45:29.000 Maybe I misunderstood.
02:45:30.000 Maybe I misunderstood.
02:45:31.000 I thought you were saying that.
02:45:32.000 Oh, we have miscommunication here.
02:45:33.000 That's all it is.
02:45:34.000 That's pretty slick, though.
02:45:35.000 Yeah, it was.
02:45:35.000 It's a big win for Jacoby, man.
02:45:37.000 Real big win.
02:45:39.000 Oh, shit.
02:45:39.000 Artem Levin, top of the heap.
02:45:41.000 He's out, though, huh?
02:45:42.000 Well, he's out for this fight.
02:45:43.000 You know, you look at that guy, you look at his body, and you're like, it looks a lot like Ari Shafir's body.
02:45:48.000 What?
02:45:48.000 Like, how is that guy such a badass, you know?
02:45:51.000 Man of number four, huh?
02:45:54.000 Well, he's been fucked up by Joe Schilling.
02:45:56.000 Super fucked up.
02:45:56.000 That doesn't make any sense.
02:45:57.000 How is he so highly ranked?
02:45:59.000 Well, Joe's two, though.
02:46:01.000 Well, Joe Schilling hasn't really lost in glory other than the decision loss to Simon Marcus.
02:46:08.000 That wasn't in glory.
02:46:09.000 The decision loss to Artem Levin.
02:46:11.000 He beat Artem Levin by decision two.
02:46:14.000 And then the decision loss to Wayne Barrett, those are the fights that he lost in glory.
02:46:20.000 Unless Shilling's getting paid bank to compete in MMA, for sure stick with kickboxing.
02:46:25.000 I agree.
02:46:25.000 What the fuck are you doing?
02:46:26.000 I think he just doesn't want to back off from a challenge, and he wants to be the best at everything he does.
02:46:31.000 You know, that's how he got to be such a badass kickboxer.
02:46:33.000 I agree, but be a badass kickboxer.
02:46:35.000 Don't be an average MMA fighter.
02:46:37.000 Well, it's just really hard to do everything, man.
02:46:39.000 It's really hard.
02:46:40.000 It's really fucking hard to do everything.
02:46:41.000 Oh no, it's not possible.
02:46:42.000 It's not possible.
02:46:43.000 It's really not.
02:46:44.000 It's a crazy game, man.
02:46:47.000 The game of...
02:46:49.000 Trying to be the baddest motherfucker in two disciplines, that is a crazy, crazy game.
02:46:55.000 Because the guys he's fighting aren't focusing on their off time grappling and wrestling.
02:47:00.000 They're getting better at striking.
02:47:02.000 100%.
02:47:02.000 It's tough.
02:47:03.000 When I see that, I love Joe Schilling.
02:47:05.000 I see a friend of yours.
02:47:06.000 He's a friend of mine.
02:47:07.000 I support him.
02:47:08.000 But when I see him do MMA, I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?
02:47:10.000 Well, you know what?
02:47:11.000 He knocked out Melvin Manhoff in MMA, but he was fighting a guy, Melvin Manhoff, that even though he had a lot of success in MMA, he knocked out Mark Hunt.
02:47:19.000 He's a guy who's been knocked out a gang of times.
02:47:21.000 A ton, man.
02:47:22.000 Knocked out by Robbie Lawler in one of the most horrific knockouts you've ever seen in your life.
02:47:26.000 He was winning that fight, too.
02:47:27.000 He was.
02:47:27.000 If you remember.
02:47:28.000 Robbie Lawler uncorked a nuke on his face.
02:47:31.000 From downtown.
02:47:33.000 Boom!
02:47:35.000 And his lights went out and he goes flat to his back.
02:47:38.000 So bad.
02:47:38.000 Then Robbie comes down on him when he's out.
02:47:40.000 Boom!
02:47:41.000 Endo, Bisping style.
02:47:43.000 And just blood all over his mouth.
02:47:44.000 There's blood coming out of his mouth.
02:47:46.000 And he busted his fucking lip open.
02:47:49.000 I think that, you know, Joe's just got that in him.
02:47:52.000 He just wants to be a bad motherfucker at everything he does, which is why he became so good at kickboxing.
02:47:57.000 But I think there's wisdom in your words.
02:48:00.000 He's one of the best kickboxers on the planet Earth, without a doubt.
02:48:03.000 Hands down.
02:48:04.000 Hands down one of the best on planet Earth.
02:48:06.000 But I think also...
02:48:07.000 Average MMA fighter.
02:48:08.000 But losing the way he lost to that Japanese cat, that half-Japanese dude that he lost to.
02:48:12.000 Who was that guy's name?
02:48:14.000 Where you got Superman punched?
02:48:16.000 Yeah.
02:48:16.000 That guy was a beast, man.
02:48:18.000 That guy's really good.
02:48:19.000 He's no joke, man.
02:48:20.000 He's good.
02:48:20.000 No, his striking is nasty.
02:48:22.000 That fucking punch was nasty, no matter how you slice it.
02:48:25.000 That punch was super nasty.
02:48:26.000 I agree.
02:48:27.000 I'm just saying, it's still Bellator.
02:48:29.000 It is.
02:48:30.000 But that guy has only fought Bellator that one time.
02:48:32.000 I mean, that guy could have easily been in the UFC. And get ate the fuck up.
02:48:37.000 Like Kobe.
02:48:47.000 We got ten minutes left before we go to three hours, so We're gonna take a little break here folks, and we're gonna have a very short part two The part two will be so goddamn short.
02:48:58.000 It's 10. What is it 9 15 now?
02:49:00.000 Actually, we'll probably go to 10 o'clock.
02:49:02.000 We'll make part two like 45 minutes.
02:49:05.000 We'll go to 10 o'clock.
02:49:07.000 So we're gonna get the fuck out of here now.
02:49:09.000 The end of this podcast has come.
02:49:11.000 If you're annoyed by this, listen, this is just how these things go.
02:49:15.000 Whatever, for sure, don't download part two.
02:49:18.000 Because for sure, we're just gonna be talking about our friend Joe Schilling.
02:49:22.000 I love that dude.
02:49:24.000 So that's why we're here.
02:49:25.000 That's why.
02:49:25.000 This is the first Spike TV glory event we've ever done a fight companion for.
02:49:30.000 100% for Joe Schilling.
02:49:32.000 This is what this is for.
02:49:33.000 Mauro Ranallo!
02:49:35.000 Cageside!
02:49:36.000 With Skeletor!
02:49:37.000 We'll be right back.
02:49:38.000 We'll be right back.