Steven Crowder is a stand-up comic, actor, podcaster, and podcaster. He's known for his impressions of J.J. Simpson, Harrison Ford, and many other characters, but he's also known as "J.C." Steven Crowder joins Jemele to discuss how he got his start on the internet, and what it's like being an impressionist in the 90s and early 2000s. He also talks about how he went from being a podcaster to being an actor, and why he thinks it's a good thing he's not Jewish or gay. Plus, he talks about what it was like growing up in the 70s and 80s and how he ended up doing impressions in the early 90s, and how it all led him to a career in comedy and impressions. And he explains why he doesn't want to be mistaken for a Jew. And he also explains why it's not a bad thing to be a "mono." or a "jufag" or a "fag . and why you shouldn't call someone a "Jufag when they re not "a Jew or a gay." And, of course, he also gives us a list of his favorite movies and TV shows that he grew up watching and listening to when he was a kid, and the movies that got him interested in them. And, you can watch them on Amazon Prime Video and other streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime. and other places. Enjoy! Logo by Courtney DeKorte and other good links. Music by Skynyrdave Produced and produced by Riley Bray Music and sound design by Jeff Kaale Artwork by Bobby Lord Thank you for all your support and support and your support is greatly appreciated. Please don't forget to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe, rate, review, and subscribe to our podcast on Podchaser, and tell us what you're listening to us on your favorite streaming platform, and we'll get a shoutout in next week's episode on the next episode of That's a big thank you'll be getting a discount on a new episode of the next week, next week! Thanks for listening to the podcast, and a shout out on your local podcast, too! Shout out to my insta: by , , and I'll be listening out to you!
00:01:34.000And there were people who hated it because they thought the impressions were awful.
00:01:37.000There were people who hated it because they got the joke, and they felt like they'd been shortchanged.
00:01:42.000And there were people who liked it because they got the joke, and there were people who liked it because for some reason they thought the impressions were good, and they were all fighting, and we were going...
00:02:08.000When you go back and watch it, it's not good at all.
00:02:11.000It's like one of those things you watch when you're a kid and you're scared and you go back and you're like, no, no, trust me, let's watch this.
00:02:15.000You watch it with your girlfriend and you just wish you would have left it there.
00:02:39.000He got a hold of some crazy psychedelic brew from the Amazon jungle and took it and brought it back to America and had these experiences where he regressed into some monkey.
00:03:30.000I go, no, you don't know Ninja Turtles, because at one point it was actually a good film, and I take it back, and I watch it, and I'm like...
00:03:37.000Let's try Ninja Turtles 2, and it just gets worse.
00:03:40.000Well, you know, the shit that's good when you're little, and it's still good when you're little, but when you're not little, it's not good.
00:03:46.000Like, I took my kids to see this, uh, there's a show called Wild Kratts.
00:03:50.000Yeah, well, I worked with PBS. They'd come in every now and then.
00:04:38.000So you know some kid went to the zoo and was like, this is a bum-a-foo, and just got his face torn off by a monkey on red wine and Xanax.
00:04:44.000But the show, like, my five-year-old learns all kinds of shit from it because, like, she'll say, you know, Daddy, did you know that alligators, or crocodiles, I think it is, they decide whether or not they're male or female based on the temperature of the water.
00:05:01.000And so I Google it, I'm like, holy shit, my five-year-old just schooled me on crocodile, the gendered assignment.
00:05:07.000I think if we're being honest with ourselves, your five-year-old would probably school you on the difference between an alligator and a crocodile, because I'm still murky on it.
00:07:01.000Yeah, mako sharks can get, I mean, maybe you can bring it up, like, I want to say 60 miles an hour, something absurd, and they'll go right into boats.
00:07:08.000So they just slam into boats, but they don't fly in the air?
00:07:10.000No, no, no, they get on fishing boats, yeah, they'll actually, like, because they're just going so fast, and I think they're coming for the bait.
00:07:15.000You can find videos if you bring them up.
00:07:17.000Have you ever seen a video of the kayakers that get fucking swamped by the whale?
00:09:47.000The column was about how, as a Christian, how I wasn't having sex, and wrote about sort of the case for Christians who maybe aren't crazy, who wait until they're married.
00:09:55.000And she's like, I feel like it's really judgmental and really harsh.
00:09:59.000And I was like, okay, well, that's fine.
00:10:00.000This is my case, and you don't have to do it.
00:10:11.000Yeah, I talked about that, and right away off air, the first thing, and it's the same thing with Maren, who I like, is, well, you're not part of our club.
00:10:33.000And I said, no, actually, but that sounded like a great idea.
00:10:35.000So then after that, I started calling up churches, like, do you do stand-up?
00:10:38.000And there was one that responded, yes.
00:10:41.000And then they complained, and I never did another church again.
00:10:45.000Because I had a whole bit about not having sex, and the bit I wrote was that it's the final taboo.
00:10:49.000Like, I can go up and be as profane as possible, right?
00:10:52.000And I follow comedians, or I'll go up and it's filthy, and my act is very politically incorrect.
00:10:56.000Like, I've been banned from places, but it's not dirty.
00:10:58.000And I said, then I go up and talk about not having sex, and everyone gets so uncomfortable.
00:11:03.000The church problem was that I talked about having a raging erection for four years where my family had to lift the furniture like a Great Dane's Tale.
00:11:09.000So the church has had a problem with it.
00:11:19.000Well, as someone who is a Christian, I don't really talk about it a lot, but I was like, you know what, I don't want to be a target that easily as far as being a hypocrite.
00:11:36.000You know, like as a discipline, like there's some beautiful things about Christianity as a discipline, but the problem is as a practice, if you really pay attention to the scriptures themselves, it's so problematic.
00:11:48.000There's so many contradictions, there's so much crazy shit in there.
00:12:12.000I'll write about it, because it's a big part of what defines me.
00:12:14.000Like, we had Harrison Greenbaum on, and, you know, Norm Macdonald, Harrison Greenbaum went up and he did this bit about, you know, someone read me a scripture from a book, you know, on the bus, and I said, well, if you get to quote your favorite book, I get to quote mine.
00:12:56.000And I said, okay, I'll take your word for it, but I don't believe you, but let's just continue with the interview.
00:13:02.000And then afterwards, I was like, you know, the fact is, even if you're not gay, you make this Christian joke, but you don't touch Islam at all.
00:13:07.000And I know you claim you're straight, but they would throw you off a roof for your lisp.
00:13:11.000And the thing with Norm was he went out and he did this bit about the Bible, and you have Roseanne Barr...
00:15:48.000It feels hacked to bring them in and stand up usually, doesn't it?
00:15:50.000Well, unless there's a reason to do it.
00:15:52.000If I have to do a Mike Tyson bit, if there's something that happens to Mike Tyson and I've got a bit, well you saw it from like 1991, there's something that's online, but if there's a reason to do a voice, I'll do it.
00:16:05.000Like if I had a Bill Cosby bit, I would do Bill Cosby's voice.
00:16:11.000We do like dating advice with Bill Cosby, News Minute in the nick of time with Nick Nolte.
00:16:16.000So it's like, the internet is actually, it's funny, we're talking about this.
00:16:19.000When I started stand-up, I started acting actually when I was 12. And then I did stand-up because the unions killed the industry in Montreal.
00:16:26.000There was just no more film coming into the city.
00:16:28.000You know, they used to shoot a ton of stuff in Montreal, now not so much.
00:16:30.000And so I was in my teens, and I had been writing stand-up for years for, like, school talent shows.
00:16:34.000Like, I think this would be funny, because I grew up around it.
00:16:36.000And I thought it was so freeing to do it.
00:16:39.000And then it's kind of turned, like you were talking about this PC culture, where I think, and I was sort of wrong, in a sense, I was like, these kids online, they're not comedians, they don't know what it's like.
00:16:47.000But I think about it, you know, that's what the Marx Brothers would have said as stand-up.
00:17:24.000Well, you know about the guy in Vancouver who literally got sued and lost because he had some woman heckling him and he said a bunch of mean shit to her.
00:17:33.000And so he, whatever human rights violation, I forget what the actual citation was, but he has to pay her like $15,000.
00:17:42.000Well, there's a pastor, Stephen Boisson, who said he wouldn't marry two guys and spoke out against it and wasn't hateful.
00:17:48.000You know, everyone loves to paint the pastors, the Southern...
00:18:19.000Meanwhile, we have over 300 million Muslims who want you to die for converting, and we're talking about the Westboro Baptists because they use the F word.
00:19:39.000Well, I don't know if you really sort of...
00:19:40.000Not to get into your wheelhouse, but like the Vitor Belfour Anderson Silva thing.
00:19:44.000If you look at a lot of the stuff like on the Brazilian message boards that people were saying, it was really like this sort of coming up of this black class in Brazil, where if you were black, you worked at McDonald's, you just weren't considered a first-class citizen among a lot of the pure Brazilians.
00:19:58.000People don't even understand about Che Guevara.
00:21:36.000Well, they also know that I'm a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt, so I practice Brazilian arts, you know, so I have a big deep respect for Brazil.
00:22:47.000When a guy like that, and I mean literally, he's the kind of gay guy who literally, like Richard Simmons would be like, that's kind of severe, like really gay.
00:22:54.000And when he came out of the closet, I told my wife, I said, okay, here's what's going on.
00:22:59.000What he's really saying is stuff's about to get weird.
00:23:02.000You're going to find some Grindr profiles, like, because everyone knew he was gay.
00:23:06.000And then all of a sudden it's just a revolving door, you know, of boyfriends, and it's like, it's more uncomfortable for my wife.
00:23:11.000It's more comfortable for me, because I had to keep this lie alive, like, hey, you go on any dates with females lately, Gabe?
00:23:19.000Like, now, you know, and he dated a girl for a while.
00:23:23.000And I remember just sitting there like, what bunny hole did I jump into where I'm sitting at dinner with my wife and gay blank with this girl and they're clearly just faking it.
00:23:32.000And I was like, I just rather- Was the girl faking it or did she think that maybe he was straight?
00:24:23.000But the world of stand-up comics, it's like it's a fraternity, you know?
00:24:27.000So, like, I'm friends with girls who are open micers.
00:24:30.000I'm friends with, like, especially from Kill Tony, which is one of my friend Red Band and Tony Hinchcliffe's shows, where we constantly are around these open-miker kids that are coming up, and, you know, we become friends with them, and a lot of them are out of their fucking mind.
00:24:44.000They're crazy, but they're friends, you know?
00:24:46.000In my world, that's just the mindset that it takes to be a comedian.
00:24:51.000You have to be a little bit fucking crazy.
00:28:58.000If you look at the history of political correctness, it is designed as a political tool.
00:29:01.000And I see these people awakening now, like the social justice warrior left.
00:29:05.000Well, all they're doing is doing the same thing to, maybe they're not doing it to you, but to people like Milo, to people out there who are liberal, the same thing they've done to me and every conservative for a long time.
00:29:46.000Now, he could easily be like, oh, you know, he'll just tell them, like, skip through the edible mushroom stuff and the tattoos, because he doesn't agree with it.
00:29:51.000But, like, Joe is really right on this, the part about dying to ego every day in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
00:29:58.000In my family, we've never had to paint someone as an idiot because of some opinions with which we don't agree.
00:30:03.000You may think Ben Carson believes some crazy stuff.
00:30:06.000But he's a smart guy, and he's not a bigot.
00:30:09.000Well, what I find fascinating about him is the people that do compartmentalize certain aspects of life, like that he does ignore science when it comes to evolution.
00:30:18.000And he believes in macroevolution, but he doesn't believe in microevolution, I believe.
00:30:47.000But I don't think some guy in a Reddit thread in his mother's basement with a bag of Cheetos has figured something out that Ben Carson hasn't.
00:30:53.000You asked me about, like, the Christian thing.
00:30:54.000Well, you just diminished a person from Reddit.
00:31:27.000Yeah, but the thing is now, the reason atheists are so fun to tease and get them up in a lather is because they think that all of these brilliant people and three billion people on the face of the earth have missed something that they caught because they saw half of a Christopher Hitchens debate.
00:31:41.000And if you sit down with Ben Carson, these kids calling him an idiot and talking about how he doesn't know science, they would sit down and he'd probably school them.
00:31:47.000They may not agree with him, but he'd probably school them.
00:31:50.000And my problem is taking things out of context.
00:31:53.000Well, you see, the problem is you're talking about Ben Carson versus some kids that don't know what they're talking about.
00:31:59.000Bernie Sanders or Hillary or O'Malley?
00:32:02.000But what they're comparing Ben Carson to is people that do know what they're talking about.
00:32:06.000So if you do get people that have a vast understanding of evolution, and they sit down and debate Ben Carson, he's not going to do very well.
00:33:19.000He also is probably one of the smartest students to come out of Harvard, according to his professors, with an IQ that's, like, higher than MENSA. Because he blew them all, so they say that.
00:33:49.000You have Rand Paul, who's a non-interventionist, basically, who's all about that cannabis oil.
00:33:53.000You have Chris Christie, who basically wants to prosecute using drugs.
00:33:56.000You have Carly Fiorina, who believes it's a state's right.
00:33:58.000You have some people who supported the war in Iraq.
00:34:00.000You have some people who were against it.
00:34:01.000Every single question last night at that Democratic debate was answered in unison.
00:34:06.000And the biggest argument was over who had the lowest rating from the NRA. They were attacking Bernie Sanders, going, keep in mind, you only have a D-minus from the NRA. I got an F! Is that really what they were arguing about?
00:34:43.000Look, there's a real problem with the Commission for Presidential Debates.
00:34:46.000A real problem with the fact that when it gets down to the big crunch time, the Commission for Presidential Debates is a privately funded institution.
00:34:54.000It's not as simple as like everyone who's running for president gets an equal say and we have all these qualified candidates and we're just going to figure out who's the right guy for the job.
00:35:03.000It takes a shitload of money to get to the point where you can actually run for a debate.
00:35:08.000When you actually can get up there And actually have your opinion and broadcast it to the world.
00:35:13.000There's a lot of fucking hoops you have to jump through.
00:35:18.000But I think that as time moves on and the medium of the internet becomes more and more powerful, most likely that will be less of a factor.
00:35:26.000Having Anderson Cooper with his goofy glasses asking questions about whether or not it's okay to be a conscientious objector and still run for president.
00:35:33.000Which is one of the things that apparently he asked Bernie Sanders, which I thought was fascinating.
00:35:59.000That's the right way to say it, but he said black lives matter because that's the progressive left-wing thing to say because you're not gonna get shit from white people about it, but you'll get a lot of brownie points from black people.
00:36:10.000You might get crap from Sean King who's a white guy about it.
00:38:00.000They said it's dishonest, these are selectively edited, and their final argument was, when James O'Keefe appeared, and I'm not a journalist, so I just make a clue, like, that's why I don't release, it's designed to be funny, it's more in line with The Daily Show than something at Fox News or CNN. James O'Keefe went on Fox and Friends in a pimp jacket,
00:38:33.000I think they dress like Ben Carson with his pinstrap smoking jacket.
00:38:35.000I was in Vegas once, and I was with a couple of my buddies, and we were at this bar, and it was a UFC night.
00:38:41.000It was the night of the weigh-ins, so we went to the weigh-ins, and we were at the bar, and there was this girl who looked like a fucking executive at a Fortune 500 company.
00:38:50.000I mean, she had a respectable business dress on, she had nice clothes on, a nice purse, and she was talking to me and all my friends, and I was like, something is fucking going on here.
00:40:38.000So they said they selectively edited it, and then it didn't appear in the video.
00:40:42.000And then when the full video footage was released, the arguments that I saw was, well, no one's going to watch 12 hours of footage 12 hours is not that much if you want to get to the truth of something that's really important.
00:41:15.000You're talking about fetus parts and that they can adjust their process in order to get more intact video.
00:41:22.000And then the other really fucking disturbing thing about the video was when they reach into the pile of baby parts and they're pulling out arms...
00:41:31.000And they're literally pulling you see little baby arms.
00:42:10.000And they want it to be, you know, and they want it to be taxpayer funded.
00:42:13.000That's the deal that people have a problem with.
00:42:15.000You know, you have some people who are pro-life on principle, and then you have some people who say, I still should never have to pay for an abortion, and you should never be able to force an employer to pay for an abortion.
00:42:51.000It's either like you are pro-choice or you are some fucking barbarian who's pro-life and you want to fuck with people's bodies and you want to stand outside of abortion clinics with signs and show aborted fetuses.
00:43:27.000And then, of course, he became hated by the left and a bigot and a racist.
00:43:31.000So people who claim that the right are anti-science when it comes to abortion, they want abortions past a point where there's no doubt that scientifically that is much more than a cluster of cells.
00:43:42.000It's not going to be solved in this discussion.
00:43:43.000I got into it with this comedian online from England because Dawkins had said something that a fetus or an embryo has just as much in common with a human being as a pig embryo or something like that.
00:45:24.000I think more people see me as being a liberal hippie than see me because I smoke pot and I have tattoos and I encourage people to do psychedelic drugs.
00:46:50.000Yeah, but my point is, you know, if you pull that out now, if you pull that out now, I mean, if I didn't have my own independent thing going, you end someone's career.
00:47:39.000I'm not exactly sure if that's the best way to end your set, son.
00:47:42.000No, the reason was, the bit was, and I've talked about it, and I'll even do it here, talk about it, open about it, was it was a bit about French-Canadians watching rap videos.
00:47:49.000So you have these French-Canadians who are trying to mimic urban accents from the United States, and to the point where you would have them use words they had seen in rap videos, they didn't even grasp the meaning.
00:49:10.000I was nervous coming in here because, you know, when I was at Fox News, I was here for four and a half years and I went on air, you know, for the first time.
00:49:28.000News radio, UFC, I've been following for a long time.
00:49:32.000So you have to make sure that you're still yourself in the face of someone who you know.
00:49:35.000The one time I got really starstruck was Clint Eastwood, and there's a certain level of fame with which I'm no longer comfortable, and I just made an ass out of myself.
00:49:55.000I don't know how they trained that reggaeton.
00:49:56.000Just say, you're the shit dog, and give him some knuckles.
00:49:58.000Well, he said to me, he turns around, and he kind of saw I was looking at him, and I don't, you never want to be that guy to bother him, and you...
00:50:07.000He doesn't have to say that, but he does.
00:50:10.000I guess a lot of those really, really famous guys, they kind of have to do that because they don't want to assume that you know who they are, even though they do know that you know who they are.
00:50:21.000So it's kind of like a common courtesy thing to ask your name instead of saying, what's your name?
00:50:36.000Well, because it was at this kind of thing with conservatives in the entertainment industry, so it's very small and closed circuit, and everyone, it's small enough that people introduce themselves, like, hey, you know, I'm a comedian, you know, writer, blah, blah, blah, Fox News.
00:51:47.000Yeah, there's some, well, there's some beautiful spots in this country, obviously, but what I was saying is that Carmel is just, it's a really unusual area.
00:52:19.000You can't, but I remember watching it for the first time, like, oh, this is pretty good, and he just comes in, the hell are you, and just starts wailing on her.
00:52:26.000In the Dirty Harry films, you're just punching some prostitute with an afro, and you're like, you can't, like, blowing him away with his.44 Magnum?
00:52:33.000You can't do any of that stuff anymore.
00:54:16.000For some reason I'm picturing Beaker from the Muppets game.
00:54:21.000But back in the 70s and the 60s, I think more people did experiment that might not even be gay because they were breaking down so many bizarre boundaries and there was so much restriction on behavior from the McCarthy era and the 1950s and the way people behaved.
00:54:38.000It was all of a sudden everyone's doing acid and they're free love and I think there was a lot of dick sucking there that people went, you know, shouldn't have done that.
00:54:46.000Like, they legitimately weren't gay, but did some gay shit.
00:55:15.000And you'd always be like, you know, this book, you'd talk about it in his little polo and his Burger King Kids Club haircut, and you'd be like, but you don't have to take my word for it.
00:55:22.000And it's like, okay, so we're not taking your word for it.
00:55:24.000We should take the word of a bunch of six-year-olds.
00:55:26.000And it's like, I love this book because...
00:55:30.000How little respect do you have for your own opinion, LeVar?
00:55:33.000Well, I think you're just being humble, right?
00:55:50.000I've never seen a gay guy in a disaster.
00:55:52.000I have a guy, actually, I was talking with my brother about it, a famous actor my brother works with, and he has, like, you know, an earthquake kit, and he's like, do you have that in your trunk anymore, like an emergency kit?
00:56:02.000Because he had that when he was here for the big earthquakes, and he was in some area where it was, like, really gay, and he just said it was so funny, they were just running around in the streets, and oh my god!
00:56:10.000And he's, like, super liberal, you know, further to the left than either of us, intolerant, and he was just like, it was just really a trip to see.
00:56:44.000It is a negative stereotype, but the femininity of the gay male.
00:56:48.000It's very funny, and it's okay to, like, I talked, well, that was, I was saying, at CPAC, it was like this political action conference, that's where Huffington Post said I yelled the N-word, and I didn't.
00:56:57.000And they said I joked about raping Ashley Judd, and I didn't.
00:57:34.000So I'm fine if Huffington Post want to say, okay, they made a joke that's risque, and, you know, but they just said Stephen Crowder yells N-word.
00:58:01.000Well, what I've said about these people and I'll continue to say it, I don't believe they're actually progressives.
00:58:07.000What I think they're doing is they're mining the world of ideas and they're looking for things that they can attack.
00:58:13.000I don't think they really want to attack it because it makes sense.
00:58:15.000I think they're mining the world of ideas for the moral high ground and they're looking to find things that they can be aggressive about and go after and it gives them a license to be really shitty to people.
00:58:28.000Yeah, you treat someone, you know, you paint them as subhuman, you can treat them as subhuman.
00:58:32.000I think also, it's really important, if you really want to be a progressive person, you really want love and acceptance in the world, it's really important to not be a fucking asshole.
00:58:41.000And there's a lot of these people, like, here's something.
00:58:55.000Two, the last one I did, I did as a tribute to my friend Cameron Haynes, because I shot an elk with a bow and arrow, and he taught me how to do it.
00:59:14.000I actually, that's how, you want to know how far back it goes.
00:59:16.000I had an account before the message boards, I think, even existed because I was watching the highlight videos because I couldn't afford the pay-per-view.
00:59:22.000So when I hear Beautiful Day from U2, I still think of Sakuraba light-kicking Henzo Gracie in his back.
00:59:42.000Because they're not getting that shit from a cat food tree, okay?
00:59:45.000They're grinding up animals that live a horrible life, they're living in cages, and they're sucking them out of those cages, killing them in a ruthless, cost-effective manner, and stuffing them into a can so your little fucking tabby can eat.
01:04:05.000I mean, that's gotta be tough, because you're a sex symbol and you're Marlon Brando, and then, like, this is going to become the iconic, you know, Mr. Slave outfit.
01:04:11.000Yeah, but Marlon Brando clearly didn't give a fuck about anything.
01:04:15.000He didn't give a fuck about the way he looked.
01:04:16.000He didn't give a fuck about his health.
01:05:09.000And I just looked at it, and I'm like, it's like a go-kart.
01:05:11.000You're so low to the ground, that's got to be tough to control.
01:05:14.000It's actually easier to control because it's low to the ground, and it's very lightweight.
01:05:18.000Those are pretty easy to control for the time, but if you compare that to a Boxster today, like a Porsche Boxster, the Boxster is a way more competent car.
01:06:36.000You talk to them about it and they're like, well, you wear little cotton belts and you're like, no, Well, that's one of my main things that I have to do when fights go to the ground, is explain all the...
01:06:44.000Like, if I was doing commentary and it was only black belts listening, my commentary would be infinitely shorter.
01:06:57.000Like, when we do these fight companion podcasts, we do them, like, sometimes we do them with Eddie Bravo, and when we're watching situations, we're talking about, like, some guy going for his...
01:07:17.000What I'm trying to do when I'm doing commentary for the UFC when the fights go to the ground is help people that I know are watching this to just see a jumble of bodies.
01:08:02.000In practice, he'll roll with guys who are doing the reverse De La Riva and all this stuff.
01:08:06.000And my dad and I believe, and I don't know if you think, somebody did taekwondo.
01:08:11.000Taekwondo at one point where there was some combat relevance.
01:08:13.000And then when you get into the Olympic, it's really not anymore.
01:08:15.000I feel like sport jiu-jitsu has gone in that direction where you have a guy who can be the best in the world in a 125 division with a gi who would get his ass kicked by a hockey player in a street fight.
01:08:43.000I mean, if you can take the collar, if you can take someone's fucking, the bottom of the jacket and wrap it all the way around his neck, Why can't you pull it over the head?
01:08:54.000I mean, and that's the thing, is it's a weird situation getting into it, and it's no longer really combat relevant.
01:08:59.000And we have a lot of guys who are, you know, the CrossFit thing and all this ridiculous sort of strength training that's come into it, and they never get strong.
01:09:13.000I mean, with strength training, you need linear progression that's measurable when you're starting.
01:09:16.000A guy like you, right, you can do anything now because you have a strength base.
01:09:21.000Someone who's never lifted heavy weights and added five pounds incrementally is not going to get a lot out of battle ropes and snatches for five minutes.
01:09:29.000He's not going to get a lot out of it.
01:09:30.000He needs to increase his maximal strength.
01:09:32.000So we have kids come in like, no man, I saw this.
01:09:56.000I mean, Hoyce Gracie is a good example.
01:09:57.000You know, he wouldn't do well in sport jiu-jitsu, but he was big enough.
01:10:00.000He was strong enough to get it done and protect himself and win altercations.
01:10:04.000Well, the game has passed him by in a lot of ways, but I think that there are a lot of guys in sport jiu-jitsu that would do great, like Cyborg.
01:13:23.000And I don't know why, I just find like anyone who's been through a breakup where you're like, I want to tell her off, but I want to make it work.
01:14:01.000Wonder if Robert Downey Jr. hates the Jews as well.
01:14:05.000I don't think I'll come out and say it.
01:14:06.000Because Mel Gibson, you just get a couple cocktails into him and apparently he just starts hating the Jews.
01:14:13.000I don't think it's the cocktails that make him hate the Jews.
01:14:16.000No, but that's what gets it out of him.
01:14:18.000There's people that got him pulled over in Malibu, the cops that pulled him over were saying he's just fucking spouting out all this fucking anti-Jew stuff.
01:15:34.000You're coming back telling me about some black guy, shot someone at the comedy store, and you're going to put me in the hot seat, leave a black guy home for dinner?
01:16:06.000Although, I've never hunted, but my uncle-in-law has a cider mill up in northern Michigan, and all the deer just keep eating his apples.
01:16:15.000So he was like, listen, I have a permit, something absurd, I don't know the number, to kill like five a month or something, because they're just constantly eating his apples.
01:16:22.000And I was like, I mean, I'm not a hunter, but I could literally just sit there in a lawn chair with my.357, take a couple of them out while they're eating some Fugees.
01:18:11.000I don't know specifically which counties, but I know that these guys that I know that are bow hunters, they fly them out to Pennsylvania and they film shows where they're essentially in these fucking people's yards.
01:18:31.000Like, that's got like several acres, like two or three acres, and they have tree stands set up, and they're just killing as many deer as walk their way.
01:18:51.000A.357 handgun out of a four-inch barrel is going to have better ballistics than any other caliber for self-defense.
01:19:00.000And the reason why is I have a giant bucket of.38s and giant bucket of.37s with lever-action rifles, different handguns, and my wife doesn't need to worry about what goes into where.
01:19:09.000And I have a beautiful, almost collector's item, an old.357 Smith& Wesson.
01:20:13.000Certainly more productive than shooting at the range.
01:20:15.000Well, especially if you want to eat healthy meat that's natural and organic, and especially if you want to help control the population of these animals.
01:22:23.000Our dog actually, Hopper, he's a, if my wife and I argue at all, or if we're ranting about our day, like I have to be careful when I do the radio show, he'll sit in the corner, look in the corner, and shake.
01:24:23.000We're happy with our dog, but it breaks my heart to think of him.
01:24:25.000But how do you know that it was about your politics?
01:24:29.000Well, she said, because when there was no valid reason, because we know the owner of that place, she said, well, I get to choose who gets what dog, and he's just not the right dog for them.
01:24:40.000I wouldn't give them any dog, is what she said.
01:28:12.000Yeah, I do that too, but that's different from an announced show on a schedule where people can show up and know that you're going to be there.
01:28:19.000So you have armed security always at all of your shows?
01:28:36.000Well, you did a video that was pretty fucking ballsy where you showed the actual history of Muhammad as opposed to the history of Jesus, like the difference between the Christian religion and the Islamic religion.
01:29:14.000So the second one, but I mean, even you as someone who doesn't subscribe to either faith, you know, my whole point is you can point to imperfect people on any side of the spectrum, but go to the founders, and there's a huge difference with Muhammad.
01:29:24.000So we actually showed, you know, what a six-year-old, nine-year-old girl looks like, who his wife was.
01:29:30.000It's not the same as a 14-year-old, which was normal.
01:29:32.000Well, you showed a girl that was actually older than his wife.
01:29:40.000She was like 10. Actually, her dad is a brilliant jiu-jitsu guy who runs a school in Dallas.
01:29:44.000It's kind of fucked up when you stop and think about the history of a lot of religious stories.
01:29:52.000I mean, if you go back and think about what was acceptable 2,000 years ago, 1,000 years ago, 1,500 years ago, whatever it was.
01:30:00.000You're talking about a completely different era.
01:30:02.000And that's one of the problems with enforcing a lot of religious scripture today.
01:30:08.000There's many things that people do in the Bible.
01:30:10.000My favorite is religious people that get tattoos.
01:30:13.000If you're a Christian, you get a tattoo.
01:30:15.000You've got to read the whole book, because you're not supposed to get tattoos.
01:30:18.000Well, no, they would argue that Christ came to change the law and abolish the law so they're not beholden to some of the dietary laws or the fabric laws.
01:30:34.000I would assume the fabric law has to do with the people that were constructing the fabrics back then, that they had gang wars between silk and cotton.
01:31:23.000There is one religion right now in this world, one religion where over 300 million people right now on Earth believe that you deserve to die if you leave the Islamic faith.
01:31:35.000These are the people who will answer yes when you say, if someone converts from Islam, do they deserve to be executed?
01:31:41.000Over 300 million people in the world right now.
01:31:44.000So when you say it's like this small minority, it's because you live this privileged life, ironically enough, in the United States, and you're not acknowledging the founder of the faith, what his callings were, and how every Islamically-run It's not the same thing.
01:31:59.000It's not the same as any other religion.
01:32:19.000Muhammad did call for the deaths of Christians in Muhammad did screw a six, maybe nine-year-old girl.
01:32:24.000He beat her, but only lightly so you couldn't see bruises.
01:32:27.000If she was dressed up as a ninja, that's not hard to do.
01:32:29.000These are different things, and people need to acknowledge it, and the left that labels me a racist, that labels you right-wing because you have a different opinion and you go off the reservation, All of a sudden just completely ignores that and sort of accepts it as cultural relativity.
01:32:43.000Well, you don't really understand the reason a woman needs four witnesses when she's had the crap raped out of her.
01:32:49.000We're going to ignore that and talk about some people here who are pro-life because their hands are on your uterus.
01:32:56.000Well, I get bothered by any ideology that's rigid.
01:32:59.000Anytime you have to subscribe to a bunch of rules, you have to fast during a certain time of the year, you have to wear a certain outfit, the women can't drive, they're not allowed to go to school.
01:33:10.000Anytime you have really rigid ideologies, and then those ideologies, you find out that they're ancient and they're established by a warlord.
01:33:18.000I mean, that is the difference between Christianity and Islam.
01:33:24.000Jesus was supposed to be a man of peace, and Muhammad was supposed to be a warlord.
01:33:30.000He held political office, he waged wars, he beheaded people, he did all those things.
01:33:33.000It's a fundamental difference in the ideology, and it shows itself in the behavior of the people that are a part of the ideology.
01:34:02.000And then when Clinton announced her nomination, all conservatives became sexist.
01:34:06.000So with Ben Carson, well, he's not really racist.
01:34:08.000Well, we'll say he's a bigot because he said he thought that...
01:34:21.000I think that there are parts that are impossible to rectify with the Constitution, like You know, the treatment of women, the requirement of witnesses for a female rape, the subjugation of all non-Muslims, the dimitude and the poll taxes, which, of course, couldn't be allowed in the United States.
01:34:37.000So I believe that we'd have to have a Muslim reject those precepts if they were going to be.
01:35:10.000Because I don't think anybody should be able to tell you how the fuck you should think.
01:35:13.000I think the idea of having a government and having laws that are established by the people for the people that make sense, that give people equal freedom, that give people equal say, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to practice whatever you feel as long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights of other people,
01:35:31.000I think as soon as you have any sorts of ideologies that infringe upon those things, and the fact that progressive people, which is really weird, they'll shit on Christians all day long and have no problem with it, but they leave Islam alone.
01:35:45.000And the reason why they leave Islam alone is because they don't want to get killed.
01:36:02.000I think any time you Buy into some rigid shit that was created way before people understood the world, way before people understood science, way before people understood the distance between the earth and the sun, the moon, the rotation of the earth.
01:36:17.000I mean, think about all the shit that happened to Galileo when he tried to say that the earth wasn't the center of the universe.
01:36:26.000There's so many things that have been done, horrible things in the name of the ideology.
01:36:31.000And just as much in the name of atheism, of course.
01:36:32.000Michael Shermer had an interesting piece on the differences between Islam and other religions.
01:36:40.000And it was all essentially saying that it was the one religion that didn't go through the Enlightenment.
01:36:46.000That all these other religions, they sort of morphed and adapted to the new information.
01:36:53.000You know, obviously some less than others, and obviously some...
01:36:56.000I mean, when you see the fucking Pope dressed up like a wizard, you gotta go, well, obviously he's got some of that old crazy shit in his fucking war chest, but this Pope is Bernie Sanders in a funny hat.
01:37:32.000Yeah, well, that's also very different, you know, and one thing that you're right.
01:37:35.000I just don't want to create a moral equivalency.
01:37:37.000I think we can agree that pragmatically, even if they have a gay bathhouse, it's not the same as hundreds of millions of people who want you and I blown up.
01:38:24.000But he was one of those guys that actively shielded people from prostitution.
01:38:29.000I have a problem with that, and I think people toss religion into the same thing as people of faith, and Islam doesn't allow any sort of practice of faith or relationship, whatever you want to call it, outside of their very specifically prescribed doctrine.
01:38:42.000When you talk about specifically prescribed doctrines, how much of the Bible do you believe is real?
01:38:49.000Do you want to get into each and every issue of the Bible?
01:38:51.000Well, how about dudes coming back from the dead?
01:39:22.000Yeah, I think certain parts of my faith have changed.
01:39:24.000But my point is, until you have someone on like that who's qualifying to do it, the same people who are going to be talking about, sorry, 9-11 being an inside job, or whatever it is, someone who's just as qualified.
01:39:34.000Wait, wait, who's qualified to talk about 9-11 being an inside job?
01:41:07.000Do you really think the people who are going to be right now going, this guy's a dumbass, understand the intricate science of the Big Bang?
01:41:14.000Well, I don't think anybody understands the Big Bang.
01:42:05.000No, even saying that the Big Bang existed, I've never heard someone adequately explain, maybe I'm wrong, but adequately explain why it happened.
01:42:25.000Well, the Big Bang is one of the ones that I think you gotta go, well, I think they think that this happened because they have, you know, radio frequencies that they can discover and they can monitor and measure and we know...
01:42:39.000Well, Dawkins' explanation, I mean, how do you say there's no mysticism that maybe these cells came on the back of crystals?
01:43:11.000I think it's really easy to simplify, and you want people in the comments section going, so you believe in zombie Jesus who, you know, didn't exist?
01:43:19.000Yeah, it's just as easy for someone to say, so you, someone who's not a, not you, but you in your, you know, lounge chair with a box of Cheez-Its who has no concept of science.
01:43:29.000Again, you're demeaning these poor people.
01:43:34.000Believes that a bang happened and all of a sudden Joe Rogan's drinking his fresh French press.
01:43:39.000You can simplify anything and make it sound absurd.
01:43:41.000And that's why I go back to I think they're smart people, smarter than me on both sides, and my mind is likely to change.
01:43:47.000My mind is not likely to change in the Second Amendment.
01:43:49.000My mind is not likely to change on free speech.
01:43:51.000It's not likely to change in the fact that Mohammed was a bastard.
01:43:56.000Well, I'm certainly with you on a lot of that.
01:43:59.000I think that what they're talking about when they're talking about mystical occurrences during the time period of written history, which is what they're talking about when you're talking about the age of Jesus, these are like times where we do understand the parameters of actual possible Things that could have happened.
01:45:12.000As a historical figure, Now, nobody denies that he existed, and nobody denies that the lineage of the kings who were listed in the Old Testament existed when they claimed to exist.
01:45:21.000Now, before that, the big argument was there would be some kind of proof of King David, and there isn't.
01:45:26.000So, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
01:45:28.000Yeah, the real issue with that argument is anytime you're dealing with things that are 2,000 years old plus, like, good luck finding anything.
01:46:11.000And I was like, I had a bit about going back to the witch trials and trying to explain to them germ theory in a microscope, and it just didn't work.
01:46:18.000And I heard you do that, and I was like, all right, well, I'm just getting rid of that bit.
01:46:20.000Well, my bit was about dumb people outbreeding smart people.
01:46:23.000And by the way, this came out before that...
01:47:44.000If this mic goes out, you're like, well, okay, there's a wire here, and it plugs in there, and that's about the extent of your knowledge.
01:47:50.000There's very few people, because of the compartmentalization of our society, there's very few people, if any, that understand all of it, that understand the power That understand the water grid, that understand the purification of the water, that understand the government, that understand the computers, technology, the internet.
01:48:05.000There's very few people that could recreate all the things.
01:48:09.000And most of us rely on a bunch of other people that are experts in order to keep this insane machine that we call technology going.
01:48:17.000So my theory on the pyramids was that dumb people outfuck the smart people.
01:48:22.000And left behind this whole thing and then the dumb people would show up.
01:48:43.000I mean, that's the other thing that people, like, a lot of black people or African Americans want to talk about, you know, the pyramids and that the pyramids were built by black people.
01:48:53.000But they were built by Africans, for sure, because Egypt was Africa and it is in Africa.
01:48:59.000The people from the South, like, there was blacker Africans that came in and killed the Egyptians that were there, and that's why the Sphinx has an African face, has an African-looking face, as opposed to you look at...
01:50:13.000Well, you do realize that she had a movie that came out, and there was a mass shooting in the movie theater where her movie was being played.
01:50:20.000I mean, that's got to fuck with your head.
01:50:45.000When you have Sarah Silverman saying it's time for comedians to get with the times, and when you have Harrison Greenbaum coming on saying, I'll support free speech, but I won't support hate speech.
01:50:54.000You know, you have a lot of comedians who came out and said that...
01:50:57.000What Nicole Arbor said was just wildly offensive and fat-shaming.
01:51:00.000Nicole Arbor's the girl with the YouTube video.
01:53:33.000When she was asked about what is allowable and what's not, she's like, well, you know, I defend free speech, but yeah, it's not hard to get with the times.
01:53:41.000Like, I used to say gay, and I don't think you should say that.
01:56:34.000And for me to see comedians supporting it, I think you're seeing sort of a passing of the guard with stand-up to a lot of these truth-tellers online because they're not beholden to those rules.
01:57:35.000Like, there's never going to be a Catholic suicide bomber because we just don't believe in it that much.
01:57:39.000Well, I'm incredibly critical of Catholicism, you know, being raised in Quebec.
01:57:42.000People don't understand that in the United States, first off, all the rights you're talking about, ironically, when you're saying you don't want a rigid religion, those rights come from people who said they came from God.
01:58:18.000It's written from a, taken from a private letter from Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist, where he was talking about no establishment of a state denomination because they were afraid of a certain denomination taken over.
01:58:28.000Fast forward Quebec, where I was raised, I went to public school.
01:58:33.000Catholicism is the provincial denomination in Quebec.
01:58:36.000The United States didn't want that, and a big portion of it is if you look in Europe and you look in Canada where Catholicism was so overbearing, and you have these beautiful cathedrals in Montreal that are entirely empty.
01:58:46.000People reject the oppressive thumb of religion, and that's why more Christians exist in the United States, not because they're stupid and they're bumpkins, but because they didn't have the oppressive religion, so they didn't reject it as readily.
02:01:13.000If that was my fucking kid, if I went to school and this dumb cunt is trying to tell my kid that there's a tin can growing inside some woman's uterus...
02:02:48.000But the video was very interesting because you were talking about this whole story where she had come up with this book, and in the book she was talking about a time that she was raped.
02:03:01.000But you highlighted her actual words that when she was with this guy, she started talking dirty to him.
02:03:10.000She started talking dirty and asking him if he wanted to do this and he wanted to do that and then he did those things and then her friends are saying, oh my god, you got raped.
02:03:22.000What kind of a fucking world are we living in that people are talking about that and not highlighting the ambiguity of talking dirty to somebody, not highlighting the mixed signals and you went over that, I thought,
02:04:47.000I have my standard Lena Dunham outfit.
02:04:49.000My point is, the media doesn't call her on it.
02:04:52.000And so, and this is where I talk about, we all have blind spots.
02:04:54.000Well, not only did they not talk, they didn't call her on it, they didn't make her explain how, like, this is a, like, if you could, tell the story, because a lot of people probably don't know what we're even talking about.
02:08:04.000Everybody who drinks and is young, and especially when you're young, you don't really know how to drink well, you don't have a large database of things to pull back from.
02:08:14.000Like, okay, I've been down this road before, the third shot of Jack is where shit goes downhill.
02:12:07.000It's all the feminist, leftist, tolerant BS that Lena Dunham pushes.
02:12:11.000They've decided Lena Dunham is important enough that they're going to prop her up, despite the fact that an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm or Game of Thrones can get ten times the viewership, but it's important for the rape survivor to have a show, and it's not true.
02:12:23.000Is that really why you think they do it?
02:13:28.000He went jogging, and he comes home, he's all sweaty, and then the next scene, he doesn't have any sweat, and then the next scene, he's sweaty.
02:15:22.000That was funny about that woman, you know, the Rachel Dolezal chick who was actually really white and pretended to be black and had the fake tan and all that jazz.
02:18:49.000Yeah, he got some kind of a scholarship for being a victim of a hate crime as a black guy, but what's funny is the actual police report from that crime, he checked the Caucasian box!
02:19:00.000So it's not only on your birth certificate, that's a who's on first routine at the police station.
02:20:51.000Because if you actually look at a woman taking steroids, It's still nowhere near the hormonal advantage that a man has over a woman.
02:20:57.000As a matter of fact, Arnold Schwarzenegger, like a walking human pincushion in his prime, doesn't enjoy the hormonal advantage over me that I enjoy over the basic woman.
02:22:10.000My friend Steph Daniels wrote a piece for Bloody Elbow.
02:22:14.000She wrote several pieces about this issue, and she did a very good job of being completely objective and interviewing a bunch of different experts on it.
02:22:23.000And she found that there is a big discrepancy between gender reassignment doctors, quote-unquote experts, who have one opinion on it, that you are a woman now, You have no advantages whatsoever.
02:22:34.000And those are the people that they've talked to the IOC and they've made it so that in the Olympics there's no discrepancy.
02:22:44.000But my position is as a combat sports expert.
02:22:48.000I think there's a giant difference between having a male frame and a female frame.
02:22:52.000Then there's this woman, Dr. Ramona Krutzik, who is, they wrote a piece for Bloody Elbow.
02:23:03.000Board-certified endocrinologist went into great detail about the significant advantages in bone density and the fact that the bone density, not only does it not decrease with the use of estrogen, but estrogen is in fact what keeps bone density in women.
02:23:16.000That's one of the reasons why when women drop their estrogen as they get older, they start getting osteoporosis.
02:23:21.000And so she was saying that you have an advantage.
02:24:56.000They talk about that, drinking hormones in the milk.
02:24:58.000They talk about that with BPA and pesticides.
02:25:01.000So we all widely acknowledge that estrogen elevated beyond normal levels in the human body is probably not great, right, for human health.
02:25:09.000When injected directly into your ball sack, however, we're supposed to turn a blind eye and say, well, the science isn't in yet for the transgender community.
02:25:17.000But don't drink from that plastic bottle.
02:26:04.000There's a real issue with mental health in this country.
02:26:07.000And I don't know if it's unique to this country or if the problem is that these people that have these mental health issues have more access to guns than they have in other states or in other countries, rather.
02:26:18.000I don't think the issue is removing the guns.
02:26:20.000I think the issue is trying to figure out as an advanced society with a nuanced, objective point of view why people would ever want to kill a bunch of people they don't know.
02:26:29.000What is it that is causing folks to do that?
02:26:32.000Not what are the tools they're using to do that.
02:26:35.000And taking those tools away from people that would never do that.
02:26:38.000I know so many hunters and so many people that are gun enthusiasts that are the nicest fucking people in the world and don't do a goddamn thing wrong every day and to think that you can take away their rights, the own firearms, because One crazy person does something.
02:26:55.000What are we going to do if crazy people just drive into crowds?
02:26:58.000What are we going to do when someone stomps on the gas and heads towards an outdoor mall and just plows over a bunch of people because they have demons in their head or because they didn't take their pills that day?
02:27:07.000Are we going to take away the right to drive?
02:27:09.000It seems like we're going down that road anyway with these cars that are going to be self-driving.
02:27:15.000There's going to be issues involving the rights of people to drive.
02:27:36.000Those could fire 30 rounds in a second, you know, or 20 seconds.
02:27:39.000We have a letter from, I think it was Madison, to a private ship where they said, hey, can we have cannons to stop piracy?
02:27:47.000Second Amendment, of course you can have cannons.
02:27:48.000So they knew, as a matter of fact, they had placed orders for some of these high capacity, really advanced weapons that just wasn't cost effective for the American government.
02:27:55.000When was the Second Amendment drafted?
02:27:58.000Gosh, I'm terrible with numbers, but the puckle gun and the belt and flintlock and a lot of these guns already exist.
02:28:03.000Was it before the outlaw Josie Wales Gatlin gun?
02:28:52.000Well, how about fucking Hunter S. Thompson?
02:28:55.000I mean, if anybody violated what a lot of people would think the First Amendment should stand for, that guy took real facts and added fiction to them, and that was the First Amendment.
02:30:33.000I believe that crazy people shouldn't be allowed to have guns.
02:30:36.000I believe that if you have a history of violent behavior and a history of violent crime, you shouldn't be able to go to a store and buy a gun.
02:31:07.000No, I don't believe that we have the parameters yet to determine that.
02:31:11.000Well, do you realize that federally, for the longest time, that was actually the case, that if you did have a prescription for medical marijuana, because it's federally illegal, you weren't allowed to have a handgun.
02:31:22.000I mean, Barack Obama's, you know, federally prosecuted even people in Colorado, where he's talked about that, that he doesn't really want to leave that to the States.
02:31:28.000I don't want to get off on the pot thing, because we actually agree on that.
02:31:31.000But the gun thing is, it's an instinct for self-preservation.
02:31:35.000So a lot of these celebrities, for example, I get really bothered personally because I've had to put my wife under security watch because of angry Muslims and union members.
02:32:52.000But what's funny is if you go watch it, knowing we talked about jiu-jitsu and stuff, my dad's like, did you grab a collar elbow tie and were you going for your uchimata?
02:36:04.000And I was like, listen, these are the top donors.
02:36:08.000No one wants to talk about big unions.
02:36:09.000By the way, they give virtually 99% to Democrats.
02:36:13.000Big banks give 51% Republican, 49% Democrat because they're hedging their bets.
02:36:18.000Unions, often public sector unions, you have no choice in whether you can join or not in these non-right-to-work states.
02:36:23.000You join, they take your dues, and in turn, they use those dues to elect more Democrats who give them more kickbacks.
02:36:29.000So I just think, yeah, there's a lot of money in politics, but everyone wants to talk about big oil and big pharma, and no one wants to talk about big unions, which is...
02:36:36.000Far more influential force, and they get away with murder.
02:37:42.000The unions in the Midwest, those are the kinds of, and that's what I was with my lawyers when we're dealing with this, and there was a prosecutor in Michigan who was, we found like almost all of his funding at that incident, was the AFL-CIO, which is a big union.
02:37:54.000As a matter of fact, I was told there were about 50 people that day, not just me, who tried to file police reports.
02:37:58.000Because that whole tent you saw was cut down with box cutters.
02:38:00.000There was a black guy selling hot dogs whose thing was destroyed.
02:38:13.000If someone's raped in Florida and you moved back to Ohio, you were on vacation, you can call in and say, hey, my daughter was raped in Florida.
02:38:17.000So a lot of people tried to file reports.
02:38:50.000I mean, if two people are staring at each other and they're yelling at each other and someone decides to throw the first punch, that person is the antagonist.
02:38:57.000That's the person who caused the issue.
02:38:59.000Well, there's mutual combat laws and all that stuff.
02:41:29.000Theodore Roosevelt, I think it was Teddy Roosevelt in 1906, wanted to bring back the whipping post for domestic abuse because he thought it was unfair to put a man in prison because then he could no longer...
02:42:44.000My wife's, like, punched me in the arm, like, I can't believe you.
02:42:46.000I grew up around violence, and I don't like it.
02:42:49.000I mean, it sounds crazy talking to a guy who's a cage-fighting commentator who's done martial arts his whole life, but I don't like violence.
02:43:00.000I like fights and I've always enjoyed competing.
02:43:05.000It's not that, but that doesn't seem like violence to me, even though it is.
02:43:09.000You have a mutually agreed upon meeting of two very skilled people who are going to try to impose their discipline, their will, their focus, their technique, their intelligence and their preparation on each other.
02:45:04.000National Violence Against Women survey found that 21.5% of men and 35.4% of women living with same-sex partners experience intimate partner physical violence.
02:45:33.000So what that says is that 7.1% of women have experienced domestic violence by men, but 20.4% of men have experienced domestic violence by women.
02:45:45.000The good thing, what that says to me...
02:46:47.000He's had some issues with cognitive damage from his fighting career, but I have to have him on because we talked about this.
02:46:59.000He's gone through some pretty unique therapy.
02:47:01.000There's a guy in Dallas that's doing some very unique therapy, dealing with a lot of the cognitive issues that he had because of his long-term fighting career.
02:47:11.000Well, he's really taken my dad under his wing.
02:47:40.000I mean, I'm the world's longest talked about that.
02:47:41.000Like, I've been a blue belt for, I mean, I can't remember how long because I moved, and they saw it as like an act of disrespect, and I had to compete.
02:47:51.000To get my blue belt, Joe, I had to win, it doesn't mean much, but I had to win Naga Worlds at white.
02:47:58.000Which in Dallas, which means you might have people coming in from like 15 states.
02:48:01.000You know, there might be 12, 15 people in your division.
02:48:14.000Two, three years after me, he got his purple.
02:48:15.000You gotta get away from any school that does that.
02:48:17.000There's only a few schools that do do that, but goddammit, when they do that, it's so disrespectful and it's so bad for the whole overall community of martial arts because it turns people off when they realize that there's that kind of politics.
02:48:30.000I mean, Eddie Bravo experienced that for the longest fucking time because they thought he was disrespectful because he was teaching no-gi jiu-jitsu because he decided to develop a no-gi system.
02:48:41.000Not even realizing he has a black belt under Jean-Jacques Machado.
02:52:02.000If you reverse those and the Vanderlei headbutt doesn't happen and it goes to a decision, he goes in the list of top light heavyweights ever.
02:55:29.000And it's also, like, to find a guy who's a heavyweight, like Muhammad Ali, who would move like that, that's one of the reasons why he was such an outlier.
02:55:37.000Like, nobody had ever seen a heavyweight that could dance like that and move around like that, and, like, no one had prepared for it.
02:55:43.000Like, Sonny Liston was, like, this plodding, murderous puncher and really had no answer for that style.
02:55:55.000But even him, when he got older, that shit went away too.
02:55:58.000And the only thing that I really disagree with you on is, before we leave, you said George St. Pierre, who's the National Treasury about to cross some lines, said that he got out while the wolves were at the door.
02:56:42.000He's not methodical like George St. Pierre.
02:56:45.000No, but George, I'd like his style better, because George's style is so unpredictable, and I think that he really set the groundwork for...
02:56:54.000He's one of the very best trainers in the world, and Feras...
02:56:57.000It has like brilliant breakdowns of MMA and brilliant breakdowns of fights and when you talk to him about it and when he talks about training, he talks about overloading guys mind with possibilities and that's what George did.
02:57:11.000You never knew what the fuck he was gonna do.
02:57:12.000You know why his wrestling is so good?
02:57:13.000A lot of people don't understand this.