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00:08:02.000All right, my guest today is a very entertaining man, a very smart guy.
00:08:08.000He's all over the place, but he's quite a character.
00:08:12.000And he was one of the original founders of Vice back before it was even Vice with Shane Smith.
00:08:19.000And we get into that a little bit, but we had a very bizarre but very entertaining talk.
00:10:20.000Like you're in the room and you're talking to the guy and you develop a relationship.
00:10:23.000And then, you know, later on, you guys are at a bar or something and it's like, you fuck me, just like you did two months ago with that checkmate move or something.
00:11:49.000You know, they'll call both and see, let's see who shows up first.
00:11:52.000And the Uber guy was in front, and the cab driver is honking on his hormones screaming at them.
00:11:58.000And the Uber driver, you could always tell the Uber driver because they always have an iPhone and one of those little iPhone holders so they could type in the address and just go.
00:13:40.000In 2015, with unemployed teens everywhere and unemployed college students, they should be driving cabs.
00:13:46.000Now, traditionally, I like the idea of Archie Bunker with the stubby cigar and the tweed hat saying that he saw a prostitute die right on this corner as we drive.
00:16:09.000Then the second she say, I love you, you turn that bitch around and you fuck her in the ass and you punish her for all the bullshit she put you through.
00:20:03.000These dudes who, we did an article about invice a long time ago, but guys who are super serious about long hair and getting through that awkward phase, they call it when it's like here, and someone goes, get a haircut, and they go, that's our version of nigger.
00:20:16.000That's like our version of being dragged behind a truck.
00:20:56.000Because how strong are you mentally to let your elbows just grind down to nothing?
00:21:01.000Because once that 15 feet starts, you don't really know when it's going to end.
00:21:06.000I mean, they might say they're going to take you for 15 feet, but you have to have faith that they don't just go, yeah, stop that fucking gas.
00:21:15.000I think it might be worse than drowning.
00:22:52.000Well, I think it's a sign of lateness when you get into the word rather than go look it up and they'll be like, library, where they keep the lies.
00:23:03.000And you're like, why don't you move past just the fucking word library and get into like publishing or what gets published and what doesn't.
00:23:12.000I don't need you to take apart the syllables things.
00:23:14.000My favorite is fear, false evidence appearing real.
00:23:22.000I'll tell you, that is the biggest, way worse than racism and anything else, the biggest albatross on black America's neck is this vision, this assumption that the world's out to get you.
00:23:57.000But the Ferguson one was the worst example.
00:24:00.000It's weird how examples get picked up and then people run with like the worst one.
00:24:06.000It's like, like Ferguson was, that was a bad guy.
00:24:09.000That was a guy that had just committed a robbery just before, had punched the cop, was in a fist fight with the cop and got shot at close range.
00:24:18.000Like he shot, and then shot him, and then people like, hands up, don't shoot.
00:24:59.000And the guy who shot him had poor evaluations on his ability to handle stress, had a breakdown during one of his training exercises.
00:25:10.000They said he was terrible at communicating to the point where they didn't think that he would be able to fix it.
00:25:15.000They didn't think they'd be able to make him a good cop.
00:25:17.000He resigned from that police force, was picked up by this police force, goes on to fucking kill this kid.
00:25:22.000Then, on top of that, they have private people investigate it, or whatever groups they have investigated, and they decide that what he did seemed normal.
00:25:32.000Like, that was the most recent finding, that what he did seemed like he was.
00:25:36.000Wasn't there a bunch of kids shooting people with BB guns in that area and doing robberies with BB guns?
00:28:46.000And he made tons of money and brought us to Canada, raised a middle-class family from poverty, and he never complained about it once.
00:28:55.000And he would have a million reasons to say, that's why I fucked up and that's why I'm in jail.
00:29:00.000But don't you think that this is an environment, like you're talking about, a guy who lived in a certain area and moved to another area, like had the courage and had the ambition to get out of that area.
00:29:16.000I mean, the United States was essentially founded by Europeans who weren't happy with Europe.
00:29:20.000So these ambitious people that created this new environment and these new places and these new immigrants who all got together and they created these communities.
00:29:29.000Like my grandparents lived in Newark, and that was an Italian community that all came over here.
00:29:35.000They all came over from the boat from Italy.
00:29:38.000And my grandfather on the other side came over from Ireland.
00:29:41.000But this is like a group of people that were very ambitious and wanted to do better.
00:29:56.000So black community, you're dealing with people whose ancestors were slaves, and then they are released and they live in these environments.
00:30:04.000Then you have, in places like Baltimore, institutionalized racism where you're really not even allowed to sell.
00:33:07.000And when they broke up and got divorced, the judge ordered him to pay a certain amount of child support, not alimony, a certain amount of alimony, but the child support was based upon the amount of money that he was making at the time.
00:33:22.000And he had to argue that that was unreasonable.
00:33:25.000And the judge literally said to him, your ability to pay has no relation to your obligation to pay.
00:33:33.000And he's like, what the fuck does that mean?
00:33:41.000That's probably true if you remove the amount.
00:33:44.000If you have a kid, you're obligated to pay.
00:33:47.000Yeah, well, you're looking at, you know, he's making several hundred thousand dollars a month, and then all of a sudden he has to pay half of that, and he can't.
00:33:55.000So he was, like, within a very short order, it was half a million dollars in debt to this woman who is, in his words, a raging cunt.
00:36:26.000Because every time I talk about divorce and kids, especially with people in the comedy world, I'm talking to someone who's divorced and never had kids.
00:36:34.000But I am married specifically because I have kids.
00:36:37.000And they'll see, I mean, I've always said, don't get married, don't get married.
00:36:39.000Marriage is a contract with the state, which I agree with up until when I had kids, I was like, look, bringing a life into the world to me is way more of a commitment than a legal contract that you can get out of with a lawyer.
00:37:14.000What I'm saying is not while the kids are young.
00:37:16.000I mean, I'll do everything I can to not because I just think for kids, it, well, I say that, but goddamn it, I know a lot of goddamn interesting people that became interesting.
00:37:27.000I'm not going to use this as an excuse because I'm actually happily married, but people that became interesting because they went through childhood breakups and they moved around a lot.
00:37:37.000I mean, Mike Tyson's a good fighter because his childhood was hell.
00:37:55.000So when you're, you know, I'm sure you take care of your kids, but do you think of it like, man, I'm sort of sheltering these children from the very things that made me interesting?
00:38:04.000A lot of my friends that have kids, we kind of go through that dilemma.
00:38:31.000I'm in the NRA, but I support gay rights and, you know, and a million other things, pro-choice, million other things that people would associate with left-wing.
00:38:48.000And these ideologies that you have to rigidly apply, you know, and you originally adhere to the right or the left, and you, you know, you automatically...
00:39:40.000I think they just go where the money is.
00:39:42.000I think they go where the money is and they go where the influence is.
00:39:44.000You know, we were talking before the show about this thing that I'm doing with Anthony Bourdain, where we're going to an episode of his show that we're going hunting for birds, and we're going to talk about public land versus private land.
00:39:58.000And Steve Rinella, who's the host of the show, Meat Eater, who's on the podcast earlier this week, had a really good point about politics.
00:40:06.000He's like, he said, I'm a political eunuch, was his words.
00:40:09.000He goes, because you got the left, which is trying to take away gun rights.
00:40:14.000Then you got the right who supports your gun rights, but they're taking away private land.
00:40:18.000They're taking away, or public land that is used for hunting.
00:40:21.000They're selling it away to corporations.
00:40:24.000And so he goes, like, I'm kind of fucked.
00:40:26.000He goes, because on both hands, because he's a professional hunter.
00:40:29.000So on both sides, he's like, I can't adhere to either one of these.
00:40:32.000The right is selling land away to corporations?
00:40:36.000What I think is doing is there are many in the Republican administration and many on that side that are supporting the rights of corporations to either sell away or take away some public land that is right now used.
00:40:51.000You know, there's public national parks and public areas.
00:40:54.000When they find these resource-rich areas that they can exploit and make a lot of money, then they'll sell contracts to these corporations.
00:41:02.000I mean, this is what's going on in Alaska when they're talking about drilling and stuff.
00:41:06.000But maybe if you give it time, the free market will make nature better.
00:44:42.000And these kids in my neighborhood up there are in Afghanistan.
00:44:48.000So they're going there, risking their lives to get what I call unethical oil, oil from people who stone women to death, because we've considered natural gas some sort of, and fucking 80% of your natural gas is already fracked.
00:45:02.000All of Ohio, Texas, that's all fracking.
00:45:04.000Well, it's certainly changed the price of gas.
00:45:07.000Gas has dropped dramatically since they started doing that.
00:45:44.000Well, here's my theory: he claimed it was because I came out as a transphobe, and what our interview is now incomplete, and it would be weird to release it without us discussing trans.
00:46:29.000Yeah, but it's only because this guy was a guy for 30 years, became a woman for literally 24 months, started beating the fuck out of women.
00:46:37.000And if you watch the fights, you're not talking about even a skillful person.
00:46:40.000It's just like it's someone who's just got a completely different frame.
00:46:44.000I mean, the way he's throwing these girls around.
00:48:58.000When you can't get that, prostitution is a nice second.
00:49:01.000But when you get when two people are really into each other, like you're sharing a moment together, and then there's this other person, and what about me?
00:49:19.000I mean, I've had friends that their wife is a freak, and they have threesomes, or their girlfriend's a freak, and they have threesomes, and they go out and hunt for girls, and they do it on purpose, and they enjoy it.
00:51:55.000But this whole thing, like, oh, we, like, the far-right religious guy is going, we need to get our kids away from gayness or they're going to go gay.
00:59:54.000But while you're in school, while the kid's in school, you're irresponsible for that kid for whatever seven, eight hours, whatever it is, a kid goes to school.
01:00:01.000This mother is so useless, she can't scrape together a ham sandwich.
01:02:05.000I'm going through my own Rolodex, and I see those guys cleaning up a drunk chick's barf, and I see the beta male comedians fucking chicks, fucking passed out chicks.
01:02:19.000What beta male comedians are fucking passed out chicks?
01:02:54.000Like the guy I'm thinking of, she was sort of like, I don't remember fucking him, and I'm never speaking to him again, but it was kind of wishy-washy.
01:03:02.000And he's not a, like, I know these super handsome dudes, these two guys.
01:03:07.000One of them used to be a male model, and this chick invited them over, and she got two wasted.
01:03:35.000They put the towels in the fucking washing machine.
01:03:39.000And they made sure she was okay and then they went home.
01:03:42.000These beta male guys, like the kind of guys who are on the nerdist, these guys who everyone thinks is cool, I see those guys fucking her, skull fucking her, or beating off in front of them.
01:04:08.000They're mentally ill narcissists for the most part, and they wear this wolf and sheep's clothing of I'm a beta male, I'm a loser, I'm a nut, and they just use it to fuck chicks over and dump broads, and they're the jocks.
01:04:21.000They're the date raping jocks that everyone's scared of.
01:04:23.000Well, you're talking about like very specific guys that are famous and wealthy and also are playing that role of being the failure.
01:04:32.000Yeah, I'm talking about young comedians too.
01:04:34.000Like Jay Moore, there's two types of comedians.
01:04:36.000There's Jay Moore with the dress shirt and the blazer.
01:04:49.000Okay, aren't you doing exactly the same thing as someone saying that black guys are great at science because one guy knows a guy who did something?
01:04:56.000I mean, you're a theory, first of all.
01:06:11.000We joke about his weak sperm, but I mean, we say he's bred with old ovaries, but I realize my youngest son was born much with a mom much older than my mom.
01:09:07.000But I think a lot of my friends, when they talk about women, they talk if they date girls that are like up to 25, 26, they're more like they don't care.
01:10:15.000You're not responsible for that any more than they're responsible for recognizing that you're a 45-year-old guy who's going through some midlife crisis, some existential angst.
01:10:25.000This goes back to what I was saying about no one's responsible for the relationship.
01:10:29.000And if you a lot of these guys will fuck over this girl and sort of imply that he's going to put a ring on it.
01:11:03.000People pretend to themselves that they are this one type of person because that person appears to be more attractive.
01:11:09.000So when you're talking about these hipster guys that are pretending to be these beta males that are super sensitive and male feminists, in their mind, they have convinced themselves that they are this thing because this thing would be more attractive to the type of women they're trying to attract.
01:12:17.000But when you get on the 405 at 3 o'clock in the afternoon and you can't fucking move because there's no room because all the cars have blocked up all the road, you go, maybe we need more girls with little dogs.
01:12:26.000Maybe we need more gay guys who want to get married.
01:13:08.000She told me that I'm spilling the beans here, but I don't care.
01:13:12.000She told me that the managing editor, who looks kind of like Jimi Hendrix, but it's a woman, she would cry herself to sleep at night because she waited too long and her ovaries dried up.
01:13:23.000And I feel like screaming at her, your whole agenda is telling women that they're men and they don't need kids and they'll be fine without kids.
01:13:31.000And you don't even believe that fucking shit.
01:13:35.000I think their agenda is saying that women could be empowered and women can not have to live under the predetermined directives that men have set forth for them and they can do their own shit.
01:13:47.000That was the beginning of the impetus.
01:13:49.000The pendulum is swinging so far and now it's if you do that, you're a sellout and a loser and you're a fucking stepford wife.
01:17:05.000So anyway, in the movie, there's this scene where they're in a courtroom and they're having some trial and this woman comes out and she's got on like a, you know, that's Wild West dress and the fucking hair up and the little blouse.
01:18:07.000Well, you know, there is a biological reality for women who have to take care of themselves.
01:18:11.000Women who work actually develop more testosterone.
01:18:13.000Women who are in the workforce and have to compete, yeah, they actually develop more testosterone and they become more aggressive because of that testosterone.
01:18:22.000And I think that when women are forced into that sort of a position, like is it is it a coincidence?
01:18:29.000Not saying that all feminists are unattractive, but a lot of like really vocal ones are unattractive.
01:18:35.000And so therefore they're forced to take care of themselves.
01:18:39.000So they're forced to compete in the workforce.
01:18:41.000And you have to, in order to survive, you have to become more aggressive.
01:18:45.000And so in becoming more aggressive and then in standing up for themselves and their own gender, they become like an antagonist or they become rather an opponent of the men that they're competing with.
01:21:34.000I'm talking about my personal experience, but so much, like just the other day, this woman, I have a meeting on Wednesday, and this woman set it up, and I've talked to this other woman and this other woman.
01:21:42.000I know this is sexist, but I go, well, I have a thing at two.
01:21:46.000And she goes, okay, I'll just move it.
01:22:05.000And I'm just like, why am I dealing with these chicks when I could be dealing with a dude who would just go, okay, well, the meeting's only going to be an hour, so I think you'll make it fine.
01:23:12.000And feminism is something that's created by men as a false narrative.
01:23:16.000Women have bought it hook, line, and sinker, where they really should be at home protecting those very, very valuable three years from 26 to 29 before their ovaries turn to sand or something like that.
01:23:27.000It's funny that you're being sarcastic because I'm listening to you going, yes.
01:25:03.000With the trans was when you normalize it and say it's perfectly healthy, right?
01:25:09.000Then your eight-year-old son, who's gay, by the way, says, I'm a woman.
01:25:15.000You go, we're going to just ride this out.
01:25:17.000And when you become 18, you're going to move to the West Village and wear red leather short shorts and suck a bunch of dicks and realize, oh, I'm a fag.
01:28:36.000It's calling people out on their transgressions, calling people out on using the wrong gender pronoun, calling people out on being insensitive.
01:28:43.000It's like looking for green lights so they could say that you're wrong.
01:28:47.000It's looking for the moral high ground.
01:28:49.000That's a real issue with it because it's a game.
01:28:51.000It's a social brownie point collecting game.
01:28:54.000Like you want to be the most progressive person and you want to be the person that is the most aggressive about calling out other people.
01:29:01.000It used to be the progressive just like open-minded.
01:29:05.000Progressive was like about being like sensitive and loving and trying to be accepting of all people.
01:29:12.000Now it's become about finding people who aren't progressive and calling them out and outing them and shitting on their life.
01:29:19.000I think it's people that just get a green light to be a cunt.
01:29:21.000And one of the cunts, yeah, the best green light is finding people that you think have violated someone else's civil liberties or civil rights or, you know, sensitivities, and you just aggressively go after them.
01:29:36.000Look at how they act when an old person like a Warvet says Negro.
01:30:23.000I mean, if you didn't know this language and if you didn't know human beings, how ridiculous is it that it's okay to say a person of color, but it is not okay to say a colored person?
01:30:33.000That is the same thing that this is all bullshit.
01:31:12.000I disagree about that because I don't think we're not, I think we are closer now than we've ever been before.
01:31:16.000But I think these issues that we're dealing with, these are like transitionary issues.
01:31:22.000And I think that as people become more and more aware of each other, those will start to erode and be outed as being preposterous.
01:31:29.000And I think these kind of conversations where we're mocking this, like national, like the colored people or a person of color, these conversations are important.
01:31:36.000And I think ultimately people will come to their senses or at least come to their senses.
01:31:40.000No, but I disagree that I think like I'm scared of women at work.
01:34:10.000And that was like the whole argument behind having someone like that is inherently dangerous.
01:34:16.000Like if you have, not her in specific, but having someone who's like looking for those green lights.
01:34:23.000Like we were talking about like with progressive people, looking to find something, some made-up transgression that they can call you out on.
01:34:32.000A lot of the time, sorry if I'm interrupting you, but a lot of the time these women in the workforce subliminally recognize they shouldn't be there and they need to generate income.
01:34:41.000So they come up with some sort of grievance and it's the grievance industry.
01:34:45.000And I was watching TV in the hotel with my wife this morning.
01:34:50.000We don't get to watch TV because we have kids and I don't like the TV being on at home.
01:34:53.000So I'm just fucking binging on reality shows and hot rod shows and everything.
01:34:58.000And she got bored and went to see her friends.
01:35:01.000And I thought, the reason she's bored with all this reality show, like I was watching food factories.
01:35:06.000When I watch food factories and they're showing how you make jam, I can imagine, oh, I see what they did there.
01:35:12.000And I can imagine driving the truck that harvests the berries.
01:35:15.000And I can imagine inventing the machine.
01:35:18.000Oh, the screen's probably the best way to get out all the twigs and shit.
01:35:48.000But my wife has unlimited patience when it comes to being with the kids.
01:35:52.000So generally, overall, I'm not, obviously there's exceptions, but I think men are better at creating societies and women are better at nurturing.
01:36:02.000And I just keep seeing these stereotypes of people.
01:36:04.000So what about these angry women, you know, angry feminists?
01:36:08.000You don't want them raising kids, right?
01:36:10.000You don't want fucked up kids being raised by these angry women.
01:36:12.000Yes, you're talking about a handful of cunts, but what's happening is these women like my wife, instead of meeting me and having three kids, they're going, I guess I should be in the workforce because men are women and women are men.
01:36:27.000She comes up with some stupid converse idea and everyone is just sitting pinching the bridge of their nose going, yeah, that's not going to work.
01:36:35.000We can't use Rolling Stones music in a commercial.
01:37:23.000I saw this Nina Simone documentary, and they talked about how late, well, the implication was she was lazy, but how miserable she was with her career.
01:37:30.000And I'm watching, going, no, she's depressed because she's on tour in Europe and she's not with her fucking kids.
01:37:37.000Well, in that sense, yeah, if you do have children and you're not with them and you're touring somewhere, especially if you're a woman, that should be really depressing.
01:38:15.000It's real hard when you get into these generalizations like this because women, if they don't enter the workforce, then what do they do?
01:38:22.000They wait around for some guy to pay the bills.
01:38:24.000And the problem with the idea of saying that working moms, I agree that a lot of women wish they didn't have to work so they could take care of their kids, but then they're looked in disparaging ways by, and talked about disparaging ways by men who are like, well, you don't even contribute to the household.
01:38:40.000Well, those guys are fucking assholes and fuck them.
01:38:43.000And I don't understand this whole, I need to work.
01:41:04.000Well, first of all, I think that religion should be a little more private.
01:41:08.000Like, my wife, I don't know what her religion is.
01:41:10.000Well, it's very convenient when people want to talk about religion and say religion should be private because then they don't have to defend ridiculous ideas.
01:41:17.000Because religion is a ridiculous idea.
01:43:39.000But what made me really believe in a deity, and I don't know why I'm telling this, but I was coming home once and my kid was in her crib, my first kid, and I was looking at her heel and, you know, a little baby's heel.
01:43:55.000And I'm like, that thing fucking works.
01:45:35.000And that's kind of it's just recognizing the miracle that is birth, and I'm just so thankful that I'm here and the infinitesimally small odds that I was created.
01:45:45.000And I'm just sort of saying, wow, thanks.
01:45:49.000Do you do the same thing with science?
01:45:50.000Do you go to like the Hayden Planetarium and do the same thing when you study constellations?
01:46:49.000I am against predetermined patterns of behavior that you subscribe to that are thousands of years old, that were written by people who were extremely ignorant to the facts that we know now as to how the universe was formed and how biological life has evolved and all of the work that science has done.
01:47:08.000That doesn't mean I don't believe in God.
01:47:10.000It doesn't mean I don't believe in the possibility of there being some grand order to this.
01:47:16.000But the idea that the Catholic Church, the guy who dressed like a wizard and sits on a fucking golden throne and you have to call him father, that that's the guy?
01:47:36.000But now that we do have science, and we do have so much more knowledge than the people who were writing this shit down in Qumran and fucking animal skins and leaving them in clay pots for people to go over and decipher.
01:48:24.000Do you believe that a good definition of infinity is if you had monkeys on a typewriter forever, they would eventually print out the completed works of Shakespeare?
01:48:33.000I think that that definition of infinity is a very strange one.
01:48:38.000Because the idea that you would have these monkeys randomly typing on a typewriter and they would come up with the exact...
01:48:47.000There's no evidence that it's possible that a monkey just slamming their fingers onto a keyboard would type out words in perfect grammar with periods and commas and question marks.
01:49:00.000How about a computer that is just randomly hitting, randomly printing out keys or infinity?
01:49:06.000Would it not eventually, in a trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion years, happen to have printed out the complete works of Shakespeare?
01:49:14.000It could be possible, but I've seen no evidence that it's ever been able to be replicated even in a simple sentence.
01:49:50.000Like when you were talking about a monkey typing on a keyboard, the monkey doesn't understand language.
01:49:55.000So monkeys using semicolons in the proper form, using like three periods in a row and then a space, but doing it over and over again to form the complete works of Shakespeare.
01:50:29.000Then you go, wait a minute, if I'm doing infinite possibilities here, there's going to be an Earth where this is happening.
01:50:36.000Not only that, what infinite means is the universe is so big that every single thing that has ever happened on Earth in the exact same order has happened an infinite number of times throughout the cosmos.
01:51:00.000My next step was going to be there's Joe Rogan interviewing a guy who looks exactly like Joe Rogan, but my name is Gavin McInnes, but I'm looking like you.
01:52:24.000Meaning if Earth exists and if we do have cloth in the form of curtains and cameras that work with L C D crystals and a little tiny statue of Biggie Small, that that's possible everywhere.
01:52:37.000If it exists here and the universe is infinite, it means you're dealing with hundreds of billions of galaxies with hundreds of billions of stars.
01:53:52.000They think there might be a brown dwarf star that we can't even see that's way, way, way outside of Pluto.
01:53:58.000We're trying to figure out why there's certain things out there, why the Kuiper belt is filled with all these objects, why there's a drop-off, what massive body there might be deep into our solar system.
01:54:09.000And then you go into other solar systems and other galaxies.
01:54:12.000It's a fucking, they've barely scratched the surface.
01:54:15.000For you to say that you know there's not a Gavin out there who looks like me with three dicks sitting in front of a 1930s microphone, it absolutely could be true.
01:54:22.000And it could be true, it could be billions of light years away where we'll never be able to see it.
01:54:27.000Not only that, that's a great argument against atheism.
01:54:30.000You're sitting there saying there's no God.
01:54:54.000Well, Terrence McKenna said, if science grants, they ask for one miracle.
01:55:00.000They say, grant us one miracle and we'll explain the rest of the universe.
01:55:03.000But that's just because it's a lack of information.
01:55:06.000They don't know whether or not the Big Bang is even true.
01:55:08.000There's a lot of scientists that believe that it could be possible that the universe exists in a constant state of expansion and compression, the same way the tides work, the same way there's cycles of breathing in and breathing out, that the universe will expand into some infinite direction, then come back into some infinitely small place.
01:56:27.000But after we agreed on that, that that would be a cool thing, because that was back when I was an atheist, I go, Jason, I went to this thing.
01:56:57.000But the idea of like subscribing to this ideology and doing it because you want to somehow or another put order to something that doesn't have order.
01:57:55.000Showing them how to mine oil and then paying them tons of money.
01:57:58.000Well, that's also created these oligarchs, created these monarchs, these people that have insane amounts of power and wealth and control these areas.
01:58:05.000Let's frack then if you hate it over there so much.
01:58:11.000I don't want to ruin the natural resources of our planet, of our country.
01:58:15.000I don't necessarily think that I don't think there's anything good about giving these people insane amounts of money or that there's anything good about relying on them.
01:58:24.000I think also we're dependent upon fossil fuels so much that we've innovated in this one direction in such an extreme way.
01:58:32.000I find people like Elon Musk pretty fucking fascinating because he's trying to figure out some way to do it in a different way.
01:58:38.000Yeah, but every time we find out a way, the left goes, no, I don't like that.
02:01:37.000But he said when he was a POW in World War II, the reason I brought up Angeline Jolie is because I was going to say, if you hear, if you're interested in Unbroken, please don't be discouraged by the shitty movie.
02:01:48.000It's a fucking unbelievable book where this POW was stranded on a fucking raft for 35 days.
02:01:57.000Anyway, in the book, when he's a Japanese POW, he saw Japanese women and children being trained to fight, and this wash of doom came over him because he goes, oh my God, after we kill all their men, they're still going to fucking fight.
02:02:13.000How are we ever going to end this war?
02:02:15.000They're going to go right down to the women and children.
02:03:20.000It's cute because he's fucking around, but then he's not fucking around.
02:03:27.000It's sort of like a low-rent gonzo journalism thing he's doing.
02:03:31.000But he's sort of he has real opinions, and then he fucks around when you challenge those real opinions and says really brash things that he doesn't really believe.
02:05:42.000When you say something like that, how much would it cost for someone to take him out?
02:05:46.000You have to be really specific when you say something like that, where you're talking about a marginalized figure who's maybe people would say a civil rights activist.
02:08:31.000But just call the dude and go, I'm done.
02:08:34.000You know, we live in this shitty society where people don't fucking talk to each other anymore.
02:08:39.000Even my anarcho-punk friends, Crass, Penny Rimbo, the guy who started Crass, he goes, Conflict, we're getting all kinds of royalties from our songs.
02:09:19.000He's going to be so pissed I'm bringing this up again.
02:09:22.000But it said, hey, man, do you have some OP shit going on?
02:09:25.000And I, on Anthony's show a long time ago, I don't feel strongly about OP at all, really.
02:09:30.000I'm actually very new to Opie and Anthony.
02:09:32.000And I said, I just noticed as a new listener, every time there's a fun riff going with Jim and Ant that's funny because they're funny guys, Opie would come in like a chick and just go, yeah, well, you shower and I'll show her, right, guys?
02:11:31.000That's why you should be on a fucking network right there.
02:11:34.000Because I have people on here that are enemies with people who are my friends, and I'm friends with both of them, and they have fucking beef with each other.
02:11:42.000Like Damarrera and Dice Clay, they fucking hate each other.
02:11:49.000I don't take sides unless there's something, like if he's just arguing, like, this guy sounds dumb, or that guy's, there has to be some reason.
02:11:58.000Like, you have to have done, this has to be some transgression that I can't accept.
02:12:02.000You know, where I say, I have to put my foot down.
02:12:04.000But it's just, ah, this guy sounds like a chick.
02:12:06.000Well, the exception is if this guy threatened your wife and kids or something.
02:13:17.000And then Sherrod, who's sort of the alpha male of that show, goes, he goes, every time I do an imitation of him, he says it's slavey, so I won't do it, bro.
02:14:56.000I had a guy on my show who believes the Earth is flat.
02:14:59.000I had a guy that's been fucking sending me YouTube clips.
02:15:02.000He's angry and they made a hate video about me because I deny that the Earth is flat and he finds inconsistencies with the space station photographs.
02:17:12.000I don't know anything about that, so I can't comment.
02:17:15.000Well, when I hired him as a salesman after we started the magazine, I never thought I'd be talking about him as a journalist because he never seemed to have any kind of interest in it whatsoever.
02:17:24.000Well, his videos of him going to all these different places are fucking extraordinary.
02:17:33.000And as far as he goes, I can't say anything about him post-08 because I've never seen anything he's done or my problem is everything that I've seen is post-09.
02:18:24.000And when you have beers with someone that you work with, you and the super hot hunk, you establish that you're both human beings and that though you disagree, I hate when BLTs aren't toasted too.
02:18:35.000And it just, it's like a reboot of the humanity of people.
02:18:39.000And I had a wife and kids, you know, they didn't, and we stopped hanging out.
02:18:44.000And then any excuse was a reason to split.
02:20:40.000And it was a tax scam that these black Haitians were running.
02:20:45.000And they just kept us as a golden goose, pretended it was this multicultural paper, and they got their money.
02:20:50.000And then we realized, I think after I hired Shane, that they don't want us to generate income because they just need us to be this tiny little bubble that they get paid to promote.
02:21:02.000You know, there's all this money in Canada to promote multiculturalism and all this shit.
02:21:06.000So we were a multicultural paper, but we wrote about skateboarding and punk bands.
02:24:41.000No, but 50-year-olds have established that.
02:24:44.00050 year olds get to a point where they go, "I wanted to have 50 shows and a racing car, I'm good." And they're like, can someone get him out of here?
02:24:55.000So you really need to make friends at the church.
02:24:59.000Isn't that part of what's good about church?
02:25:02.000Every time I've been to church, the people around me are losers.
02:25:58.000Didn't you look up how much money rich people have and what the debt is?
02:26:01.000I think they're trying to find an alternative to what they think is a broken system, and they don't really investigate it deeply enough to realize that what Bernie Sanders is saying, like financially, doesn't seem to be possible.
02:26:13.000Like, I don't think I've seen anybody say that the numbers jive.
02:26:18.000Yeah, but they don't look up the numbers.
02:26:19.000And like, someone was saying to me about you, they go, he's like a smart, dumb guy.
02:27:22.000This is why I don't like arguing with liberals, and I prefer focusing on my disagreements with people on the right, because at least they've done their fucking homework.
02:27:30.000Well, I just say I don't like rigid ideologies.
02:27:33.000Like I said, I don't like the idea of a liberal or a conservative.
02:27:36.000I think people lock themselves into these ideas, and then, this is as, like I said about my friend who is a Democrat, like, we've got to win.
02:27:43.000If we win the Senate, like, what are you saying?
02:28:23.000I think we agree that it should be private because I think that when you have things private and you can make people fired and you give contracts to companies that are competitive, you get a better product.
02:28:34.000Because I think capitalism does work in a lot of ways.
02:31:08.000So after he dies, the kid can watch the videos and learn from that, which we stole from a Michael Keaton movie, which we mentioned in the film several times.
02:31:18.000And I just assumed it would do well with hipsters.
02:31:20.000Then we got the demo back, and it was like all Hispanics because they're the only ones into how to be a man.
02:31:24.000Most millennials think it's a bad thing to be a man.
02:33:24.000Driving is not simple if something goes wrong and you have to make a split-second decision and your reaction time is fucked up so a collision occurs that wouldn't have occurred if you weren't drunk.
02:37:42.000No, I don't think LA is ideal, but I think LA has a lot of great things.
02:37:46.000I think the real problem is overpopulation.
02:37:48.000I think whenever you have too many, you know, all the trends, San Diego, man, I worked in San Diego last night, and we drove down to San Diego.
02:37:55.000We had to leave at 12.30, and it only took us three hours to get there, which is pretty good.
02:38:02.000I mean, it's really a two-hour drive with an hour of traffic.
02:41:28.000Because when they say shit like that, I go, yeah, but then you're in the New York Post in that little sliver that says, man in subway stabbed to death after altercation.
02:41:37.000Well, how much violence does go on on subways?
02:41:39.000Because you always hear about the bad incidents, but every day, millions of people are going back and forth and back and forth and back and forth.
02:42:08.000No, there was a guy who apparently wasn't even a comic, and he was out on the patio, and someone walked up to him and shot him six times in front of everybody.
02:43:47.000There was these scientists, and there's a particular cave in Africa.
02:43:51.000And so they had set up to make this video of these bats coming out of the cave because millions and millions of bats on a nightly basis come out of this cave.
02:47:32.000So I guess it was like saying, we interviewed the head of the KKK about fruits and vegetables, and then found out later he's the head of the KKK.
02:47:38.000This would look stupid to put out talking about food the whole time.
02:47:43.000You'd go, wait a minute, we talked to the guy who killed the president and we didn't mention shooting the president.
02:47:47.000So because of the fact that your article came out after the interview, he couldn't just release the interview because it didn't discuss this very important topic.
02:50:26.000I don't want to make that illegal, but I want to also say, let's not normalize this because someone who is kind of dumb and crazy and thinks they want to be blind, now you've made it okay.
02:50:36.000So the MMA fight is a perfect example of the problem with this whole live and let live thing because now we have a dude with tits and a fake cunt kicking the shit out of chicks.
02:50:48.000Well, there was a really funny time where this guy was, when Rachel Doazell came out as transracial, this guy was supporting transracial, and he was right, but he was joking.
02:51:57.000God, if regretting sex was rape, I would be doing 10 life sentences.
02:52:00.000Well, you know the whole thing that's going on with drinking, where the man always gets accused of rape if two people are drinking together.
02:52:15.000But if a woman is drunk and she has sex with a man, apparently she cannot consent.
02:52:19.000That's another great example of what we're talking about, because in the MMA situation, you lied and said women are men, and now you have a man beating a shit.
02:53:11.000You were drunk having sex, so you should be charging that guy.
02:53:14.000And when you reinvent the system and change all the definitions, you have to take into account the victims here.
02:53:21.000Like, well, they've kind of abandoned the alcohol thing outside of colleges.
02:53:26.000Feminists were pushing that for a few years ago.
02:53:29.000They were trying to push it nationwide, but then it became preposterous because you realize everyone's a fucking rapist because the whole country is filled with rapists because socially people drink and that's how they wind up fucking.
02:53:39.000So the people under the influence that were having sex, it's like 80%.
02:54:05.000And when you say Rachel Dolezal is black, you've trivialized every black person's experience who grew up with real racism.
02:54:13.000And when you say that Caitlin Jenner is a woman, you've trivialized womanhood.
02:54:18.000Now, like this woman who gave birth and had, you know, she's a grandmother and there's a family reunion and she's the matriarch that basically built all these 60 people, she's the same as this fucking guy who put some fake tits, Bailey J. You've, that's sexist.
02:56:27.000When they say that if you are a feminist, there's no need for any other sort of equality, gender equality issue, because feminism addresses all of it.
02:56:36.000So there's no need to have men's rights issues because once feminism is completely achieved, once female rights are equal to men's rights, then they will address all the other rights.
02:56:47.000I actually, I talked to a feminist about that, and I said, okay, so you must hate the amount of prison rape going on with men.
02:56:57.000And I go, I can't even conceive of feminists standing outside a prison with placards going, stop the raping of these guys.
02:57:05.000Well, the problem is they're being raped by guys.
02:57:07.000Like when they say that more men are being raped by them.
02:57:12.000Well, I think a lot of when you're looking at these really unattractive women that happen just so happen to be feminists.
02:57:19.000Again, we're not saying that all feminists are unattractive, but I have friends, and I'm sure you do too, that are just ugly dudes, and they grow to hate women because they just associate women with rejection and feeling bad.
02:57:30.000They're just getting just constantly shit on by women, like, fuck these bitches.
02:57:34.000And they develop that sort of mentality.
02:57:37.000It just seems to be like a natural course of progression that some really unattractive women would be like really hostile to men too, because all their life they've been rejected and made to feel terrible by men.
02:58:36.000Like, grow your hair long, wear high-heel shoes.
02:58:39.000Even if you're fat, put on some lingerie and we'll work it out.
02:58:42.000Do you think that this is what's going on with a lot of this is that there's a lot of people that are, they have these standards that they feel like they're supposed to uphold or they're supposed to live up to.
02:58:55.000They have a voice because of the internet, because they find like-minded people online, and they get really active in those communities and it gives them a sense of community and a sense of purpose that they never had before.