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00:03:20.000Yeah, it's like, oh, he said it, but it's like, who gives a shit?
00:03:25.000But it is strange, though, that just you saying it on stage, for whatever reason, it getting into a video, and then all of a sudden everybody was like, yeah, is that shit true?
00:04:37.000And it's actually, because I remember there being like Google Analytics About it, where it peaked for a little bit in mid-October, and then it dipped, and then the Cosby meme is what set it back off again.
00:04:53.000The internet is so fascinating because nobody knows how to manage that kind of shit.
00:04:58.000Like if you're like a PR person, there's nothing you can do.
00:05:01.000First of all, whoever did the meme thing, I'm convinced that the dude who did...
00:05:06.000I would imagine whoever did the meme thing was probably somebody who works on his website, right?
00:05:11.000So somebody who works on his website is like a web culture person, someone who understands the internet, some tech dude or woman.
00:05:19.000A tech person is gonna know what the fuck is gonna happen when they do that.
00:05:23.000I almost think they did it on purpose.
00:05:51.000It was stressful, too, just to be in the, just casually, you know, going on social media or going on a site how I normally would, and then just seeing my name, you know what I mean?
00:06:21.000People just, they like, yeah, they think I'm part of a, it's a small amount of people, like vocal, but they're vocal online, so it seems like it's more.
00:06:30.000Do you see that B.O.B. dude thinks that the earth is flat?
00:06:33.000There's a lot of fucking strange people out there, but that's one of the big conspiracies was that Bill Cosby was trying to buy NBC, and that they didn't want Bill Cosby to buy NBC, so they came out with all these...
00:07:59.000The song is, because B.O.B. is a pretty, it's funny because the song, even though it's full of fallacies and wrong shit, the song sounds good.
00:08:09.000And then Neil deGrasse Tyson, his nephew or somebody who's also in the science, he put out a song, and his song sounds garbage, but it has the facts in it.
00:10:11.000I did it for the stories and just for the experience and because they offered me more for one show than anybody was offering me at that time.
00:13:41.000So I spent $10 a pop on soft porn, and I kind of wanted to...
00:13:47.000Go to or call the front desk like these movies aren't what I thought they were, but I just I just ate the charges That's how it used to be in hotel rooms.
00:13:57.000They'd show no penetration and they'd show no cum shots Yeah, yeah, they would show like scenes of people on top of it didn't Bill Hicks used to have a bit about it Yeah, Billy Bill Hicks used to have a bit about hotel porn Because they used to do, apparently the way they used to film scenes is they would film a hardcore scene and a softcore version.
00:14:18.000So they would have softcore scenes where they shot angles where they knew you couldn't see anything.
00:14:23.000And they did it specifically just for hotel rooms.
00:14:26.000All those hotel chains, like the Marriott's and all those, those are the biggest porn sellers in the world.
00:14:33.000You don't think about it, but they're all in the porn business.
00:14:36.000They make a fuckload of money off of porn.
00:14:39.000Because, I mean, they're charging now.
00:15:20.000I think I could jump into porn directing kind of easy.
00:15:24.000If you just give me 12 hours to watch a bunch of different porn, give me the screeners for the best director nominees, I feel like I could mimic what they do.
00:16:40.000We're talking like early 2000s, like 2001 or something like that.
00:16:44.000So then Like we're watching the scene right the scenes ridiculous This this is ass-to-mouth scene this dude's banging this chick in the ass then fucking her mouth and she's making these gagging otter noises like Then someone says she's here and his car pulls up and the girl gets out the girl who's in the scene and she gets out with a dude and And the dude gets out,
00:17:10.000looks at the screen, looks at her, raises his hand like this, and she's like, and he's like, you know, he's making these, like, we can't see what he's saying, but he's like, why didn't you tell me?
00:17:22.000And she's like, I was gonna, I was gonna tell you.
00:17:25.000And so we're like, do you think that he didn't know that she was a porn star?
00:17:29.000Like, do you think that he didn't know?
00:17:30.000Maybe he didn't know, so we had to figure it out, right?
00:23:15.000There's a few of them that are definitely suspicious.
00:23:18.000But the problem is, when you're looking like this, when you're scouring all the hours of stand-up that I'm sure she's done places, you can find similar premises and shit like that.
00:23:31.000I think the real issue is whoever wrote for the sketch show.
00:23:34.000Whoever wrote those sketches, at the very least there's an originality problem, at the very least.
00:23:39.000But the Kathleen Madigan one is a real egregious one because you could totally come up with the same idea that Kathleen Madigan had about someone slapping food out of your mouth.
00:23:51.000As a matter of fact, someone said, I think Ari Shaffir said that that used to be on the Flintstones.
00:23:56.000There was an episode of the Flintstones where Fred was trying to lose weight and so he had like a robot that would slap food out of his mouth or something along those lines.
00:25:27.000So, like, say if I was doing a sketch show and someone came to me while we were doing a sketch show and said, hey, how about we do a sketch about the audition process for Two Girls, One Cup?
00:26:10.000We kicked people from In Living Color out of the comedy store.
00:26:14.000I should say we had nothing to do with it, but when I was there, the comics were complaining so much that they got them kicked out.
00:26:19.000Actually, I had nothing to do with it, but I remember being like, oh, this is cool.
00:26:24.000They kicked the writers out because they had these writers that would come And they would hang out in the back of the Comedy Store, and then those sketches would appear on television.
00:26:33.000They would take people's premises and turn them into sketches.
00:26:42.000And my friend Kevin, a showcase for all these writers, and he did this bit about muffins.
00:26:48.000He used to have this closing bit that he used to do about muffins, that if someone wants a piece of your muffin, you don't give them the muffin top.
00:27:23.000Those guys have to produce, and some of them aren't that good.
00:27:26.000I've had some development deals with writers, or some development deals, and then you meet with writers, and you read some of the stuff they write, and these guys had...
00:27:55.000It's been a huge problem for a long time.
00:27:59.000So you take away those sketches, and you go, well, you know, I don't necessarily think you can make her responsible for those sketches, because there's no way.
00:28:05.000Like, if you were going to do your show, and you had a premise that somebody pitched you, what are you going to do?
00:28:09.000You're going to go online and say, hey, has anybody heard this premise before?
00:32:28.000Remember when those people were mad at him because he did a bit in one of his specials about a girl with one arm and everybody was mad at him?
00:37:46.000And who was the guy that wrote the article?
00:37:49.000Okay, but the guy had a real good point, and he said if someone does something in a movie, and it turns out that that scene had been in another movie, like, oh, you stole that from Blazing Saddles or some shit, that doesn't offend people, because they know that you're just reading some lines from a movie.
00:38:02.000But if someone goes to see Hannibal, they know that your shit is your thoughts.
00:38:08.000Like, they want to see, what does Hannibal think about this?
00:38:12.000When I go see Hannibal Buress, what are his thoughts on blank?
00:38:51.000But my point is, you're not gonna get anybody to write that for you.
00:38:54.000He's not gonna steal that from somebody.
00:38:56.000It's so obvious when you see the bit that it's his sense of humor.
00:39:01.000And when you're not doing that, when you're doing just a bunch of like patchwork bullshit that some other people wrote for you or some clunky premises that you may or may not have lifted from somebody else and reworded, it offends people.
00:40:03.000But if I find out that Louis C.K.'s new special Was written entirely by a team of writers and you know and he you know just sort of like Rehashed all the shit that they wrote down then I don't feel the same way when I like when I watch Louie I know that I'm gonna see Louie CK's thoughts on stuff every time you see him You know that that's Louie thinking about shit and it's so obvious when you hear it on stage It's like it's coming from his voice.
00:40:31.000So that's the difference I think yeah with stand-up Definitely.
00:40:59.000I hear about somebody trying something at open mic or there's been Lines where I'm like, maybe they took that idea of certain things or commercials and shit like that.
00:41:53.000What if someone does it and they become like Mencia?
00:41:56.000They become huge when they do that shit on television and then you're like what if it's like a bit You have a very unusual bit about fucking Skittles.
00:42:04.000It's like a signature bit, and it's hilarious.
00:42:08.000But it's something that's real and near and dear to your heart, and maybe you worked on it for a long time.
00:42:14.000There's bits that you work on that don't fucking work right away, and you try to figure out how to make them work, and then someone comes along and just swipes it.
00:42:59.000She's ambitious as fuck, but this is a it's very unfortunate.
00:43:04.000It's very unfortunate You know, there's also a problem with apparently she burned through a shitload of material doing that show Like doing their show like a lot of her stand-up premises she did in the show this show is very important and then right afterwards she's got to do the HBO special and You know,
00:43:20.000in the HBO special, there's only the one bit.
00:43:23.000There's only the Wendy Liebman joke, right?
00:43:24.000Well, there's another Marc Maron one, too.
00:43:26.000But the Marc Maron one that people are saying is like, boy, that's a pretty obvious premise.
00:43:57.000If she was some asshole, you know, like if it was Mencia, like if this came out that Mencia had a new show and all this shit was on, people would want his head.
00:46:44.000The problem with comics is, if I'm working on your show and I come up with a fucking bang-ass premise, I'm gonna tuck that shit away and I'm gonna give you some half-assed shit.
00:46:56.000Because if it's going to be in your act, you're like, holy shit, this could be my new closer.
00:49:19.000Do you remember in the early 2000s, while Bush was still in office, there was a Chinese fighter jet collided with an American fighter jet, and the Chinese fighter jet's pilot, the pilot's name was Wong Wei.
00:51:44.000Yeah, if it was her face, I mean, they've done it a bunch of times to me, I'm sure to you too, with your actual face and a bit that you said, I have zero problem with that.
00:52:20.000Like, that was one of the big complaints about that fat Jewish guy, was that he would take stand-up bits, and they would put them in memes.
00:52:27.000They would steal someone's stand-up jokes and turn into a meme.
00:53:02.000I don't know how true this is or if this is just a one-off instance, but she said that he got booked to do somebody's prom or sweet 16. And she said he got $150,000.
00:57:38.000And you were in the crowd that I hated as a group.
00:57:41.000I wanted to talk to you, but I'm glad you brought that up because I remember you and I were at the same casino, that Tuya Lip Casino up in, it's like an hour north of Seattle.
00:59:06.000But yeah, it was way better than the gig I was talking about.
00:59:10.000There's another interesting thing about that gig, is that gig was where, this was way before all the Cosby stuff came out, the woman who was the manager came up to us, and we were talking and this and that, and I always ask people.
00:59:24.000I said, what's the weirdest shit you've had to deal with?
00:59:27.000Like, what's the most annoying comedian you had to deal with?
00:59:29.000Like, what's the worst thing you had to deal with?
00:59:31.000And she goes, Bill Cosby was the weirdest.
01:10:16.000It's a theater, but the acoustics in it are amazing, and the way it's tiered, the people, even the people in the back row, they're pretty fucking close, even though it's a big place.
01:12:23.000It had some really great sketches in it.
01:12:25.000I also have a problem with it because I did news radio with Phil Hartman.
01:12:31.000And Phil Hartman had incredibly negative shit to say about SNL, about the environment, about what it was like working there, about all the backstabbing, behind-the-scenes shit.
01:13:37.000But then, when he realized it wasn't like that, he relaxed.
01:13:40.000And then when he relaxed, he and I became friends, and he would talk, and he'd tell me about it, and tell me about what it was like over there.
01:14:21.000I'd get another script, and I'd read off that script.
01:14:23.000But his script was in a binder, and he had different colored tabs for different scenes, like a yellow tab for the first scene, a blue tab for the second scene.
01:14:34.000All of his lines were highlighted, and he had notes, like little annotations.
01:14:38.000You put little fucking notes on the side of each thing, like hit it like this or do that, emphasis on that.
01:19:29.00010 years of working overtime, putting money away, 100 here, 200 there, thinking about all those hours that he spent washing dishes and cleaning up and all that shit, just to blow it.
01:21:56.000He's got some amazing place in Northern California, like 24 million bucks, like hundreds of acres, just giant mansion on it, just like the total Great Gatsby house, you know?
01:25:12.000Right around episode three or four, I started getting high as fuck!
01:25:19.000I would get so high that I could feel the earth spinning.
01:25:24.000I would take pot lollipops with me to the set, and I would just suck on pot lollipops, because that's a slow release, and the pot lollipops will kick in like an hour into the show.
01:28:23.000See, but you know the problem with that too is like a famous person is not more attractive to a guy.
01:28:29.000If you meet a hot girl and she's just interesting and cool and she's not famous, or you meet a hot girl who's interesting and cool and is famous, one's not better than the other.
01:28:42.000As a matter of fact, the famous one carries a lot of baggage.
01:28:45.000Whereas for a girl, I think she meets a guy like you, like, oh, he's funny and he's smart and he's famous.
01:28:56.000Fame doesn't necessarily mean things to most guys.
01:28:59.000I think it means something to some guys.
01:29:00.000Just because if you watch TV or you see a girl in a magazine or you see her in a video, or if you just saw a bunch of dope-ass Instagram pictures, you're like, yo...
01:31:25.000I mean, with some people, that's how you get, you know, I mean, I guess you could make it private, but that's how you share it with family members that you just put it on Facebook and you share it with them.
01:31:35.000There's also some people like to put that image out there.
01:31:38.000That was one of the things that Phil Hartman and I talked about when he was trying to break up with his wife.
01:31:43.000He was like, I think that if I got divorced, I wouldn't get the same movies.
01:36:06.000The amount of, like, one of the things that happened when Ratzinger was the Pope, the last guy who stepped down, one of the reasons why he stepped down, it was revealed that that guy had relocated child molesters, and one of them that he relocated wound up molesting a hundred deaf kids.
01:36:36.000I mean, if you had that many pedophiles, say, like, in NASCAR, how long would it take for they shut down NASCAR? They'd be like, NASCAR is a fucking crazy pedophile ring.
01:36:48.000The Lord's attached to all this kid fucking that somehow or another that guy's not in jail They just moved that guy to some new place and you know now you don't see him anymore, but he He can't he was one of those guys.
01:37:01.000They were trying to try him for crimes against humanity There was all these these people that were that were petitioning while he was the Pope to get him tried and And then he had to step down.
01:37:49.000And you're talking about thousands of people.
01:37:53.000It is a bananas religion if you really stop and think about how many people have been molested by priests.
01:37:58.000When I was a kid, I would hear about it when I was in Catholic school.
01:38:03.000I would hear about it in hushed tones amongst relatives and people that the father did something to them and it was this and stay away from Father O'Malley and stay away from this guy.
01:38:14.000Yeah, I had a friend of mine who had to stay over during high school for like a track and field thing, and they made them stay at the church because he was in Catholic school, and he's like, I'm literally fighting this old guy off of me.
01:42:52.000So he's just like, I'll ask him just, I hadn't seen this dude in 11 years or some shit, and now I'm like hostage on the way to the airport for 40 minutes sake.
01:43:02.000Did he know that it was gonna be you or is it just totally random?
01:43:05.000He didn't know it was going to be me because I have a fake name on Uber.
01:44:20.000Me and Tony Hinchcliffe were in the car once, and this fucking dude just joined in on our conversation.
01:44:24.000Like, we're talking about some important shit.
01:44:26.000You know, and Tony's asking me some questions, he's asking me for advice, and I'm like, well, I think, and the guy's like, what you should do is, well, you gotta tell her to blah blah blah.
01:44:51.000And so the whole rest of the day was just bizarre because this dude was driving us around and just chimed in no matter what we talked about.
01:45:29.000This dude, he had either his phone, a bigger phone, or a tablet in the middle, and he was watching some type of Scientology YouTube video here in LA. While he was driving?
01:45:45.000He was driving and kept on glancing at it, and I said, hey man, turn that off.
01:47:53.000I wonder if you'll be able to take it out of self-driving mode, but then you'll have self-driving cars and then assholes slamming into self-driving cars.
01:50:04.000There's a class-action lawsuit that someone filed about the old phones.
01:50:09.000They said that the old phones stopped working when the new operating system would come out because the new operating system is designed for the new phones, and they had made it so that the old phones were slow.
01:50:26.000It could also be a matter of just, like, they're making so much great new software that the old processors and whatnot just aren't made to use it.
01:50:33.000Yeah, but that's not fun to think like that.
01:54:35.000They also have this area called the Golden Guy, which is an area full of small bars that only hold four or five people, that are smaller than that place, like super small places.
01:57:25.000I thought about starting to film her, but it was just so weird that she, for real, all I did objectively, I wasn't that fake, so I'd have a clear recall of the situation.
01:57:49.000Well, there's a weird thing that happens sometimes when someone's famous like you and they're not, where they feel like it's possible that you think you're cool because you're famous, like you think you're better than them.
01:58:03.000So they look for any little thing, any little thing.
01:58:49.000Right, but if you don't know someone and you say that to them, especially if they're dumb and no one calls them out on their stupidity, it can be devastating.
01:58:57.000You know, sometimes people do have that sort of thing, though, when they meet you, like, that's that guy from TV. I've seen him on Comedy Central.
01:59:36.000You know sparring with something like it's not the same like you can't act the same when you can but if people don't know you Then it's just it could they can be kind of taken aback and throw it off because it's like oh this dude's an asshole It's like no that's just how I talk with people Well,
01:59:53.000also, you're a New York comic, or you're a comic that lives in New York.
01:59:56.000And New York, in particular, is a fun place to be a comic.
02:00:00.000Fun place to interact with other comics.
02:00:02.000But, like, people are fucking ruthless to each other.
02:02:27.000When I was in South Carolina, Charleston, South Carolina, 2011?
02:02:36.0002010, 2011. The day before my birthday, a few years ago, I was out there doing some shows with Aziz, and I was hanging out at bars, hanging out with a couple girls,
02:02:53.000hop in the car with them to go back to wherever the fuck.
02:05:58.000Like, someone maybe will hear you and Keith or someone like that joke around like that, and then they'll see you at a club, and they'll say some stupid shit to you, and they'll think it's funny.
02:08:32.000Because this is, it was coming into my 29th birthday, so I think it was 2012 or 2011. Anyways, so Aziz finds out, he comes to the hospital, and so he's there,
02:08:48.000and so there's nurses and shit, like, holy shit, Aziz, I'm sorry!
02:08:53.000And he's like, can you chill out, my friend?
02:08:56.000And people are like, can I take a picture with you?
02:08:59.000It's like, you need to worry about this work right here, this TV show, the Hannibal Buress just got his shit smashed in show, where people, they were legitimately, Fanning out over Aziz over my hospital bed.
02:12:53.000But I met him at one of those, you know, they have those press junket things they do where they have, like, NBC has, like, all their talent and all their producers.
02:13:12.000And I was going on the hallway to the bathroom, and I ran into this dude, and I've seen him in a hundred movies and everything like that, and I was like, what's up, man?