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00:00:17.000I'm here with my brother, Daniele Bellelli, one of the few men who can pull off a yin-yang bandana like some renegade biker on an episode of Grey's Anatomy.
00:05:05.000It's sort of divided up in three parts.
00:05:08.000The first part is about dealing with fear in martial arts, and it's kind of like my experience of constantly Testing the boundaries, getting crushed, try again, find a way to make it, deal with that scaring feeling of when you have somebody coming at you who has been training for the last few years and wants to take your head off and you're like,
00:05:28.000There's all the pressure, people watching you, the idea of getting physically, if you fuck up, getting physically dominated by another man, which is never a fun feeling, that kind of shit.
00:05:39.000But then to me, that part just serves as a Springboard for the other stuff, which is, well, that's great when you're on the mat, when you're in the cage for that stuff, but what about the rest of life?
00:05:49.000And in this case, you know, part two deals with what happened with my wife, you know, very quick, uh, get a little sick and all of a sudden, what the fuck is going on?
00:05:58.000Your body starts falling apart, diagnosis with brain tumor, dead within six months from the time the first symptom came up.
00:06:05.000So it was really quick, really harsh and All the stuff that you may imagine like that.
00:06:11.000And then the part three, sort of, okay, now what?
00:06:25.000In some way, these three elements kind of go together.
00:06:28.000It's like the martial art part was sort of a warm-up in terms of learning some things that then I would have to apply on a much bigger, more important skill in day-to-day life.
00:06:38.000And then, you know, when shit hits the fan, and then afterwards how that changes my attitude about things, my life overall.
00:06:45.000And, you know, when I was talking with publishers, originally they wanted a nice, pretty arc where you start out as this scared wimp, And then you discover the secrets and then you come back and you're this fearless guy who will go through life without fear.
00:07:02.000I mean, I like to sell it that way that would sound cool, but I'm not in the business of bullshitting myself or anybody else.
00:07:10.000The seven steps to getting rid of fear is not that stuff.
00:07:14.000To me, my experience of dealing with fear is a fucking constant battle.
00:07:20.000It's like you wake up one day and maybe you learn to deal with it 0.01% better and that's a win.
00:07:30.000And then the next day it hits you again and you have to deal with it again.
00:07:33.000For me in particular, afterwards what happened is the reality of realizing that everything is fleeting, everything can be taken away from you, everything you care about can go in the snap of a finger.
00:08:55.000It's part of what's fun about getting things done and succeeding is knowing all the mental roadblocks that are in place to keep you from being successful.
00:09:08.000So to me, this is just, you know, this is my experience, but it's like, it's not that I have any illusion that A, I'm fighting battles that are unknown to other people.
00:09:16.000Because the reality is that everybody has shit to deal with in their own lives.
00:09:20.000Everybody has horrible things happen to them.
00:09:25.000Horrible may vary from one person to the next.
00:09:27.000You may be slightly luckier than the next guy, but the reality is that everybody deals with it.
00:09:31.000So the question of how do you deal with it, what are the things that help you get the job done, and which ones...
00:09:38.000That's one of the great things about martial arts is that dealing with the fear and the pressure and stress of training, it helps mitigate some of the pressures and stresses of everyday life.
00:09:48.000That's exactly, that's why, you know, when I went to some publishers initially, they were like, ah, you know, hold your wife, life after, we got that part, but what the fuck does martial art have to do with it?
00:09:57.000I'm like, this has everything to do with it, you know, because those are the same dynamics, but I get to train them in a safe space in a martial art contest, and then you apply them to the real game on the bigger scale in life.
00:10:07.000And it's a controlled space in terms of it's going to happen at 8.30 on Tuesday night.
00:10:25.000But in doing that, it definitely helps.
00:10:28.000I've had so many Twitter messages and Facebook messages.
00:10:32.000People that I meet after shows that told me that they started jiu-jitsu after listening to this podcast and it changed their life and that it helps them so much to deal with pressure and now in pursuing a healthy lifestyle.
00:10:45.000Even guys like Anthony Bourdain, who was in his 50s.
00:10:49.000I believe he was 58 when he started jiu-jitsu.
00:11:07.000I talked to him off statins, off of high blood pressure medication, lost 30 pounds just from training, eats healthy, still likes to party it up a little bit.
00:11:17.000Smoking a little weed and get a little booze on.
00:14:42.000And, uh, I was just reading these posts about him looking up into the heavens, wondering what, you know, what God is like living in the clouds.
00:15:44.000I tweeted a quote the other day from Barry Goldwater, where Barry Goldwater, back in the 50s, had recognized that there was an issue with preachers and ministers getting involved in the Republican Party, that they would ruin it.
00:15:56.000I know that's the scary thing, is that you go back 50 years to the guys who were considered nutcases back in the day, and they would be considered moderate centrist today.
00:16:04.000They would be like, oh, Barry Goldwater, what a reasonable voice, you know?
00:16:07.000Well, he was the one who was warning against it.
00:16:12.000He had some positions that were a bit on the extreme end, but he also had a bunch of others that were very, very reasonable, where he made sense, you know?
00:16:19.000And today he would be seen as a fucking liberal, you know, look at that guy.
00:17:48.000He had a whole show going on about how happy he was that Donald Trump was in the race for entertainment factor.
00:17:54.000And also because he was making a good point because he said, look, in the primaries, for example, in the Republican primaries, the game is you have to go 0.1 millimeter more conservative than the next guy to win the primaries, but you don't want to go too far because otherwise you lose the general election.
00:18:09.000And you have Trump who steps in and he goes like 20 yards past everybody else.
00:18:13.000And so everybody else is like, shit, if I don't follow him, I lose the primary.
00:18:17.000But if I follow him, I'm done in the general.
00:21:30.000She dropped out, but when she was running, they found out that she wasn't really Native American, and she tried to fake that she was Native American.
00:21:38.000Did she get a scholarship or something for that?
00:23:54.000A lot of people, they have these ideas of Native Americans that they lived off the land and they used every last piece of the animal and they had a spiritual connection with their surroundings.
00:24:07.000But that's the problem with all stereotypes, right?
00:24:09.000You take something that's partially true, and then you blow it up to make it the entirety of the experience, and then you turn with the caricature that at that point is very far from the real deal.
00:24:20.000Well, my friend Steven Rinella, the host of The Meat Eater, has the best stories of Native Americans.
00:24:26.000He has a deep knowledge of the history of Native Americans, and he's got some fantastic stories about the Nez Perce.
00:24:32.000First of all, they were fucking cannibals.
00:24:35.000That was super common to not only attack neighboring tribes, but to eat them.
00:26:28.000And he walked for days, some ungodly amount of miles, naked, by the way, freezing cold, lived off of whatever he'd grab and stuff in his mouth and eat, and managed to survive in some crazy way and lived to tell the story.
00:26:42.000No, in fact, some of the, that's what I dig, like, for History on Fire, those kind of stories that are so, like, it's like, come on, the screenwriter from Game of Thrones wrote that, right?
00:32:22.000Yeah, you told me that they were pretty intense kind of birds.
00:32:27.000It's so strange when you look at a wild eagle in the eye, you know, even though it's kind of far away.
00:32:32.000They don't let you get that close to them.
00:32:34.000But when you're passing by, we were on a boat, and we're passing by these trees, and there's an eagle up in the tree, and you're like, whoa, what the fuck?
00:32:40.000They're big fucking animals, that's for sure.
00:32:42.000They don't get hunted by people either, so they're not afraid of people.
00:32:45.000But, you know, they're not stupid either.
00:32:49.000That place is a legitimately wild place in that when you get out of your car, you have to run to where you're going or you're going to get swarmed by mosquitoes.
00:33:15.000Like, open up the car door, put your boots on, and just the time it takes to open the door and get your boots on, the car is filled with mosquitoes.
00:35:09.000This guy was robbing a house and I think the owners came back so the guy took off and they were looking for him with flashlights so he dove in this pond right outside.
00:38:10.000And it seems like when you get to the really high levels of finance and of volume and of the amount of troops and the amount of people that you're controlling, the area you control, that's when the real atrocities kick in.
00:38:23.000It's almost universal that horrific acts get done to intimidate your enemy and to make sure that you retain control over certain areas.
00:38:36.000Yeah, it's one of the things where it's like...
00:38:39.000In that sense, human history is really kind of fucked up and weird if you approach it through a moral lens because you see so many nasty things take place.
00:38:48.000And the weird ones are the ones where there really is no good solution, where you don't know what the healthy thing would be.
00:38:54.000There's one that I was researching for a history on fire maybe a year from now or something.
00:38:59.000I'm researching this story from the 1980s in El Salvador.
00:39:03.000At that time, there was a right-wing government in El Salvador that the U.S. government was supporting, and there was a leftist guerrilla.
00:39:10.000In the logic of the Cold War, there are only two options.
00:39:13.000You either are pro-communist or you are pro-U.S. There's nothing in between.
00:39:17.000So in the process of fighting this leftist guerrilla, the government of El Salvador is doing nasty things, right?
00:39:22.000Anybody who criticizes them, doesn't matter whether they're a communist or not, get tortured to death, chop off their bodies, leave them in the middle of the street.
00:39:31.000American Congress at that point goes like, oh shit, you know, we can't really keep sending millions of dollars to these guys.
00:39:36.000We're doing horrible human rights violations.
00:39:39.000So they passed this law that in order for any more aid to be sent to the governor of El Salvador, the president of the United States had to sign off on a document stating that these guys have made huge improvements in their human rights record, that they are on the right path, you know, it's getting better.
00:39:56.000Problem is, the deadline is coming up.
00:39:58.000Reagan is itching to be able to send out all these millions of dollars to the government of El Salvador.
00:40:03.000And in that moment, the Salvadorian army goes on this offensive against the guerrilla.
00:40:08.000They find some villages that just wanted to be left the fuck alone.
00:40:13.000They were not pro-communist, but they were not anti-communist either.
00:40:29.000In the Cold War, there is no neutrality either on one side or the other.
00:40:32.000So Salvadorian army come in, grab every single villagers, separate the men from the women, kill all the men, rape all the women, then kill them all, kill everybody in that village.
00:40:44.000And the New York Times did an article on it, and Reagan was like, oh shit, what do I do now?
00:40:51.000So he said, the guy who wrote this article is some crazy communist.
00:40:55.000It's a smear campaign against our allies.
00:40:57.000The government of El Salvador has made huge improvements on sending them millions of dollars.
00:41:02.000Of course, years down the road turns out that the original story was true, that this stuff did happen, and they...
00:41:08.000But other than bitching about Reagan, this is not even an anti-Reagan thing.
00:41:12.000It's a messy situation because you do support the government of El Salvador.
00:41:17.000You're literally supporting death squads, child rapists.
00:41:21.000I mean, it doesn't really get any worse than that.
00:41:24.000You don't support them, there's a chance that El Salvador could turn into a communist state, in which case he's not exactly like communism around the world as a high reputation for human rights.
00:42:00.000You know, Carter had the same exact problem.
00:42:02.000You know, right before Reagan, Carter, some guy, the Archbishop of El Salvador, this guy Oscar Romero, sent him a letter saying, stop fucking sending money to my government because they are doing horrible things with it.
00:42:13.000Carter was like, eh, I don't want to look at this because this is politically troubling for me.
00:42:18.000So two weeks later, death squads walked into the main church in El Salvador.
00:42:26.000So it's not a Republican or Democratic thing.
00:42:29.000You know, it's like both sides of the game there did not know how to handle this in a situation where it's like, which mass murders do we support and which ones do we oppose?
00:42:50.000When you're dealing with certain parts of the world that have been embattled, they've been just entangled in these horrible, Bitter feuds and rivalries, horrible things get done in war.
00:43:03.000And when you're dealing with two horrible groups, and you can't really differentiate substantially one being more moral or ethical over the other one.
00:43:13.000And oftentimes, if you were more moral or more ethical, you wouldn't survive in those terrible environments.
00:43:18.000You have to do horrible things just in order to stay above water.
00:43:22.000And in fact, that's what keeps it, these stories, keep you on your toes.
00:43:26.000Because if you condemn one and not the other, you're an hypocrite.
00:43:29.000If you condemn the other and not the first, you're an hypocrite.
00:43:31.000If we get even to what we are saying, which is the right thing, right?
00:43:34.000It's like, well, it's a fucked up situation and you have to do terrible things.
00:43:37.000If you say it too easily, it's like, oh yeah, well, so go chop the kids' head off, no big deal.
00:43:42.000So you have to, you say it, but you also have to say the opposite.
00:43:46.000It's like, it's a weird dynamic there where there's no real...
00:43:50.000A place where you feel comfortable, like, ah, that was the right thing to do.
00:43:55.000Now I can go to sleep, sleeping easy and stuff.
00:43:57.000Well, let me ask you this, because you're a legit historian.
00:44:00.000Was there ever a time in human history where there was like a noble, ethical government of any sort of an empire or country that didn't engage in any human rights and did the right thing?
00:44:13.000Like, was there a utopian government at any time in history?
00:44:16.000No, I think you get these different degrees of fucked up.
00:44:27.000It's just a lot less shitty than the alternatives.
00:44:29.000Outside of modern times, what's the most utopian version of a government that ever I think what you get is in, you do run into societies where maybe, like, for example, if you have low population density, hunters and gather,
00:44:45.000but the key word being low population density, because once you have too many people, they compete for hunting grounds and they do horrible things to each other.
00:44:52.000But if you have a relatively low population density, there's really no reason to go to war with another tribe over wealth because you are nomadic.
00:45:01.000You have to fucking carry it on your back.
00:46:08.000When you become sedentary, you can accumulate wealth.
00:46:11.000And so you do start seeing this game played out in a good way.
00:46:15.000You know, people who have the resources to dedicate themselves to stuff other than working for a living and so on.
00:46:21.000And in a horrible way with all the nastiness that takes place over the fighting over, I want your shit, I'm gonna slaughter your family in order to get what I want, you know?
00:46:59.000Up to a point, in both scenarios, there are some huge advantages and some huge disadvantages.
00:47:05.000It's just that they change which ones they are.
00:47:08.000Yeah, when you get so much wealth and so much prosperity that you start getting royalty and you start getting people that accumulate massive amounts of wealth and then they have this incredible ability to control all the people around them and everyone's fearful of them because they have ultimate power.
00:47:25.000They can have you killed instantly and face new repercussions.
00:47:28.000I was reading this article about this guy.
00:47:32.000Who was some Middle Eastern prince and he was living in Beverly Hills.
00:48:02.000Well, there was two of them real recently.
00:48:04.000There was one, maybe you remember it, but there was one where the justification was, I didn't rape her, I fell on her, and I just happened to be aroused, and I accidentally penetrated.
00:48:14.000Yeah, exactly, and that's the best part.
00:48:15.000He was fucking acquitted over that defense.
00:50:26.000Well, I really think what you laid out is the I'll buy you option or I'll have you killed option are really the only two logical explanations.
00:50:34.000Because other than that, this is not a defense.
00:52:20.000His semen and DNA were found inside the young woman, but he said it was possible that he had semen on his hands from having sex with a 24-year-old earlier.
00:53:00.000Early hour, the young woman said she had woken up in the early hours of the morning with Mr. Abdullah Aziz on top of her, forcing himself inside of her.
00:53:09.000He claimed he'd gone to see if the young woman wanted a t-shirt to sleep in or a taxi home.
00:54:18.000Because everybody's got that thing, right?
00:54:19.000There's so much nasty shit that happened in the world with no repercussions that everybody's got the fantasy of, fuck you, I'm gonna get you.
00:55:03.000And then you get like three, four more that are really not.
00:55:06.000But you're like, No, but maybe they'll get the next one right.
00:55:09.000You know, it's like, yeah, that did not happen.
00:55:12.000You know what I watched that I really didn't realize what it was when it first came out, but how it really changed, was the first episode of The Sopranos.
00:55:45.000I remember even the end of season one where they were chasing this dude through the woods to shoot him and the dude is screaming all of a sudden.
00:55:51.000You got shot and he's like, no, fuck, Poison Ivy!
00:58:03.000I mean, even like the mafia is funny because a lot of the early mafia stuff came up as a form of government, you know, when like in Southern Italy when they were invaded by the Spaniards, by the French.
00:58:13.000So the government was not on the people side.
00:58:15.000They were an occupying force trying to squeeze as much wealth out of the country as possible.
00:58:21.000Because they couldn't turn to the government, a lot of the people started turning to this made-up local organization, which eventually...
00:58:27.000Because they provide all these services, but they are also the mafia.
00:58:32.000And so the original stuff, you can see the logic why beside the criminal element, and then it evolves completely into just criminal element and nothing else.
01:00:51.000And oddly enough, the guy who created the show was John Milius, who was the guy who directed the first Conan, was the guy who was behind part of the creative directing of the early UFC. He's the guy who wrote Apocalypse Now.
01:01:44.000It had an audience, you know, was good.
01:01:47.000You know, the Sopranos, you shoot it in somebody's house, the budget is not going to be what you have to recreate Ancient Rome on a grand scale.
01:01:54.000It's a different kind of game right there.
01:01:55.000So HBO, I think it wasn't that, oh, this show is tanking.
01:01:58.000This show is doing well, but it costs too much fucking money.
01:02:02.000Those shows, they didn't have the option of selling them on iTunes back then, did they?
01:02:36.000This podcast has been around for six years, so since 2009, 9, 10, somewhere around then.
01:02:45.000I think we were doing it in December of 2009, so right before 2010. Well, I'm sure when you started podcasting Ward was a fraction of what it is today.
01:04:23.000There wasn't that much going on back then.
01:04:25.000And then we got in right at the right time.
01:04:29.000And then in the next few years, other comics started starting their own podcasts.
01:04:35.000And then everybody, all these different people, Bill Burr, and Diaz, and Duncan, and everybody else started doing podcasts as well, and they all took off.
01:04:46.000Well, you are single-handedly responsible for the growth of podcasts.
01:04:50.000There are so many podcasts that are people who came through your show and then went, huh, I should do one.
01:07:55.000I've talked to many people who don't have that problem, but they don't have to do the same sort of things with their brain that I have to do.
01:08:05.000Like if you go to work and you have a normal job and you don't have to do anything important and maybe, you know, maybe it's fine.
01:08:11.000But if you're a person who has to think for a living and you have to do, like, stand-up comedy on stage or you have to write or you have to podcast or something like that, I couldn't imagine doing ecstasy and then doing a UFC the next day.
01:08:25.000That kind of the whole theory that there are all these, I don't know what, 5-HTP. Is that what it is that allow you not to have the downer afterwards?
01:08:36.000I've never done it, but I would imagine, like I said, I only did XCT once.
01:08:41.000And the one I did, I just totally did it naturally.
01:08:43.000But I do take 5-HTP. I take New Mood, which is 5-HTP and L-Tryptophan.
01:09:13.000We were chatting the other day and he had this old perfect scheme for basically having legal prostitution by using like a porn loophole that, you know, if there's a camera rolling that it's porn, it's not prostitution.
01:09:27.000You could hire someone, sign a contract to have a porn film, and even just for your own benefit, you could have it for yourself, as long as you're filming.
01:09:45.000The porn loophole is how porn stars get away with doing quote-unquote prostitution.
01:09:52.000There was a girl that was at the comedy store, and she was telling guys that you could fuck her, but you have to pay her her rate, and you have to turn a camera on.
01:10:14.000Yeah, that complicates things a little bit.
01:10:17.000Well, he was like, I didn't know if he was the boyfriend or if he's the pimp, but he didn't, I mean, unless he had a gun, I don't know how he's going to protect her.
01:11:39.000There's an area in Hawaii where the Keck Observatory is.
01:11:44.000And they wanted to construct a larger, bigger telescope.
01:11:48.000And apparently they have problems because the Native American, I guess Native American, Hawaiian, they're sort of Native American, they're Hawaiians.
01:11:56.000The people that live there have some sacred ground up there that they don't think that you're supposed to build on.
01:13:21.000No, but the thing you're saying about the sacred, and to me it's interesting because...
01:13:26.000Precisely because you hold something sacred, to me, you need to be able to have humor, to laugh about it.
01:13:32.000Not because you diminish its importance, it's in order to avoid fucking up and turn it into a dogma.
01:13:39.000You know, the one thing that keeps things loose.
01:13:41.000Speaking of American Indian stuff and spirituality, I remember being at some Lakota ceremonies where it was hilarious to see people who have grown up with it, so for them it's the real thing, versus some white guys who are coming up and they have their Hollywood fantasy about what it's supposed to be, right?
01:15:21.000You mean it, because you just did 90 minutes of hell together.
01:15:25.000And you'll say it, and you'll mean it.
01:15:27.000But that's a tricky thing that sometimes the guy was the real deal and the guy was the total phony can sound exactly the same, except that one is real and one is not.
01:15:36.000To me, a lot of these things about spirituality, they...
01:15:40.000They make me throw up because they are so cheesy, so made up, so fake.
01:15:45.000But then there are the moments where you go, oh shit, that was it.
01:15:48.000Like the other day, man, this was trippy.
01:15:50.000This guy from Canada emailed me and he's like, oh, we had this ceremony.
01:17:54.000Can you just admit that life is weird and we don't have all the explanations and leave it at that?
01:17:58.000Well, I think he's right most of the time, though.
01:18:01.000See, I think there's a lot of people that try to make things sound spiritual and connect circumstances and say, you know, it's fate and it's, you know, it's a psychic moment when really it's just total coincidence.
01:18:23.000When you talk to a guy and he says that your daughter had some sort of a dream about Native Americans, find out if she's sensitive, and then you ask her, and she said, oh yeah, I had a dream about Native Americans.
01:19:27.000But I do have enough experiences that let me think, there's no way that this is a coincidence, this is a coincidence, this is a coincidence every single time.
01:19:37.000That it just leaves me with kind of my mind is open to possibilities.
01:23:20.000Man, I'll tell you one thing that changed my perception on just the supernatural and the spiritual is looking into it.
01:23:28.000When I did that sci-fi show and when I did a show called Joe Rogan Questions, not Joe Rogan Questions Everything, a game show in my head.
01:23:36.000And the game show in my head show was a hidden camera show where the people had like an earpiece in and we would tell them to go do things.
01:23:44.000And we set this one up in Hollywood, and, you know, it was a game show, like, here's your task, this is what you have to do.
01:23:50.000And one of the things they had to do was, we told them that you're a reporter for a local television station.
01:23:57.000You're doing the news, and you're reporting on a UFO sighting.
01:24:01.000You have to find someone and tell them, listen, I had a witness, they were here for this UFO story, we have the cameras here, but they took off.
01:24:09.000Are you willing to say that you saw the UFO too?
01:24:54.000And then he held a press conference and made a mockery out of it by having someone dress up like an alien and say, we found the culprit and here he is.
01:25:02.000The guy comes out and he's got an alien costume on.
01:25:05.000And the UFO believers were really pissed off because they were like, fuck you, I saw something.
01:25:09.000There was a triangle-shaped object the size of a football field.
01:25:31.000What people were saying that they saw, there was one explanation that made sense, and that was there were flares that the government had let loose with parachutes, and they were drifting down from the sky slowly, and they fell behind the mountain ranges,
01:26:13.000In fact, to me, 99% of these stories are such bullshit.
01:26:17.000But to me, it's like sometimes there are some that you can't explain, which doesn't mean it's real.
01:26:21.000It doesn't mean we know why or, yes, it was a UFO or it was anything else or it was that, yeah, there was something that came into somebody's dream.
01:28:54.000Police eventually discovered that she was being held hostage by Mark Constantino in an apartment belonging to one of the couple's adult children.
01:29:55.000You are the one who, like, if you didn't see it, worry about what's going on with you if they were really that bad.
01:30:00.000If they were such horrible human beings and you are the one who brought them in.
01:30:04.000Or maybe they are not fucking bad and you're just blowing it out of proportion because you're a drama queen and you can't deal with the fact that they are with somebody else.
01:30:12.000Well, there's definitely some people that got fucked over, like divorces where dudes have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for the rest of their life.
01:30:19.000But even that, to me, is interesting because it's like...
01:30:30.000So yes, while she's the scum of the earth and you can and should be pissed with her, I would also reserve a little bit for your own judgment of how you opened the door to this lady.
01:30:39.000Well, the problem is that there's a legal option.
01:30:41.000It's not that she's the scum of the earth.
01:30:57.000But what I'm saying is, you have to have some fucking perspective, all right?
01:31:00.000You are a human being, and if you're here in America, you lived in the best place on the planet in 2016, which is the best time ever to be alive.
01:31:58.000For two years, like changing the terms of the divorce, all the while he's paying for her lawyer, he's paying for his lawyer, he's paying for everything.
01:32:45.000She walked around the fucking Beverly Hills with a little tiny dog and got her nails done and got her fucking pedicure done and talked a lot of shit about him while he was at work.
01:32:53.000And that guy just busted his ass all day long, but because that was his quote-unquote wife, because they scribbled their name on some paper and said, I do.
01:33:03.000That guy's fucked for the rest of his life.
01:33:11.000But A, still, while it's their fault and it's not yours, still you are the one who didn't see that they were a demon from hell and brought them in.
01:33:59.000But the other one is also you're an asshole.
01:34:01.000It's not just it's there as an option.
01:34:02.000It's you choose an option that's designed to bleed the other person dry when you know it's not right.
01:34:07.000Well, he makes good money, so it's not like he's getting bled dry, but he has to pay an exorbitant amount of money every year to a person that he doesn't fuck anymore.
01:34:16.000And now he has a wife and he has children, he has a whole new family, and still a giant chunk of his income goes to this lady that he doesn't have anything to do with anymore, and it will to the day she dies.
01:34:27.000So she lives to be 500 years old because of modern science.
01:34:30.000This fucking dude is paying her for the next 400 years.
01:36:42.000But in his case, his wife has children, or his ex-wife now has children from him.
01:36:49.000And so he is definitely financially responsible for her children, his children, their children.
01:36:55.000And I think he should pay alimony because she has to take care of those kids, and she can't really work Like, you know, she's not like a free person who's single.
01:37:04.000But if you're a free person that's single...
01:37:06.000I can understand you needing a couple years to get on your feet.
01:37:16.000I mean, say if you live with a woman and for 10 years you're married and for 10 years she doesn't have to work because you're some fucking diamond merchant in downtown LA or something like that.
01:37:25.000And you break up with her and then you're like, get out of the house, bitch!
01:37:46.000So if you're living with like Kobe Bryant, like Kobe Bryant's wife, like she's responsible for his children, so she should certainly get money.
01:38:54.000If that person wants a fucking abandoned ship and then drain you like a fucking plug at the bottom of a bathtub, that's when you need a prenup.
01:39:06.000Because if you're gonna break up, that's when a prenup comes into play.
01:46:07.000I've had that happen more than once and I'd lose all respect for that guy unless he's in the middle of fucking holding up a pan of hot oil that he's carrying to the stove or something and it's an emergency phone call or something.
01:46:20.000I mean, why the fuck would your wife answer your cell phone?
01:50:01.000All this craziness that comes about, that person becomes you.
01:50:06.000They become your property, but you can't control them.
01:50:08.000And then if they're freaky, if they're crazy, freaky bitches, you got to go, this crazy, freaky bitch is probably crazy with other dudes too.
01:50:14.000And then she's probably been crazy, freaky bitch with other dudes before me.
01:50:18.000So now I have to think that those dudes know that she's slinging that fucking superstitious pussy out there.
01:51:45.000That's where the excitement is, right?
01:51:47.000What do you make of the Chris Ryan ability to instead turn off the exact thing you were talking about, sort of the DNA, like you're mine, you know, the possessiveness, the jealousy, all of that, the whole...
01:54:22.000It's just, for a lot of people, it's hard to get over those, but, but, but, but, you know, they still are possessive and jealous and all of that, and they can't deal with the idea that somebody they love is supposed to be only me.
01:55:14.000The Chris Ryan idea is the one that makes the most sense logically and philosophically.
01:55:19.000But every single time I've tried to throw it out there at some lady I wanted to get in a relationship with, the discussion was invariably It makes sense.
01:56:19.000Wasn't that like an Oliver Stone movie where there's a chick and two dudes and they used to have threesomes and someone kidnapped the chicks?
02:03:41.000I'm going to take the condom, I'm going to stuff it in my pussy, and I'm going to squeeze it out, and I'm going to get my fingers in there, and I'm going to fucking shove it in there.
02:03:48.000I'm sure people have gotten pregnant that way, right?
02:04:48.000Yeah, trick pregnancy is fucking crazy, because it's terrifying that not only did you fuck up so hard that you got someone pregnant and you didn't want to get pregnant, but they tricked you.
02:04:59.000They lied to you, and this is the type of person that you now have a child with.
02:05:04.000So you have to raise a child with a liar, a manipulative liar, who decided to get pregnant.
02:05:13.000Oh yeah, there's a couple that I know where that lady got pregnant intentionally after telling him, oh no, no chance in hell.
02:05:21.000And then of course, this is under the file, this is the perfect family that then they tell their kids never have sex before marriage, da da da.
02:05:30.000And I remember talking with their kid, like one of their kid was like 14 and was telling me all about...
02:05:35.000Oh, shit, but they say no sex before marriage, these, and they stuck to it.
02:06:04.000Just the idea that someone would be so manipulative and so self-centered that they would decide to have a baby with someone against that person's will.
02:06:13.000That's when you know you seriously have problems.
02:06:16.000That's where you're mentally fucked in the head.
02:06:42.000Like, if it was just, like, hugging, or just, like, you know, being affectionate, and just making out, and like, oh, that's all great, you know?
02:07:04.000Like, you're drawn to someone, you can't live without them, the touch is so magical, you're like, oh, I'm gonna come inside you, oh, I can't believe it!
02:07:15.000That's when you got to think that the universe has been designed by somebody with lots of sense of humor, if there is any design behind it, because it's like, so much of this shit is just funny, you know?
02:07:26.000I mean, this is the only way to really truly ensure that people have sex when times are tough and, you know, the world is rough.
02:07:35.000And logically and intellectually, you wouldn't have a baby, but you have a baby and you have to figure out a way to hide it from the barbarian hordes.
02:10:14.000You know, probably a slave to these chemicals, but also talented enough that he can figure out a way to make exorbitant amounts of money and he has really smart people behind him.
02:10:27.000Because he went from that Two and a Half Men show where he made exorbitant amounts of money to this...
02:10:32.000Other show, which was a terrible show.
02:10:54.000Where if they did, they would do like a 1090. Like the way a show would work, like you would do 13 episodes and then you would do the back nine.
02:11:02.000And the back nine would equal 22, which is a real season.
02:11:05.000So like when we first did news radio, I think the first season we did like 13 episodes.
02:11:09.000And then if you get a pickup, everybody gets excited.
02:11:12.000Oh, we got a pickup for the back nine.
02:11:13.000So what they decided to do instead of that was do a 1090. Yeah.
02:11:30.000I don't know if you know, but Charlie Sheen was a big part of Two and a Half Men, made billions of dollars for the network, and we can do the same thing for UFX. And so they bought Hook, Line, and Sinker into this deal, and it just fucking went right into the shitter.
02:12:07.000You have to have really good, dedicated writers that are funny, and then you have to have an actor who knows how to pull it off.
02:12:13.000You have to have a showrunner who's got experience in putting those things together.
02:12:17.000There's an art form to creating a sitcom all itself.
02:12:22.000I was on one for five years, and I got to see it pretty intimately from a bunch of different levels, from the level of really talented, really smart actors.
02:12:31.000Who can figure out how to manipulate a scene and make it funny and the level of really smart really good writers who really know how to craft a scene and then networks with good ideas and networks with shit ideas and then you got to put them all together and Good luck.
02:12:48.000Back then, you had to have a good time slot too.
02:12:50.000That was a big part of it because people had to know that you were on.
02:13:45.000My time is way more valuable than those 15-minute chunks where you just interrupt with stupid music and dancing frogs or whatever the fuck is.
02:15:16.000And you opened up first episode with that, well, not first episode, but episode, not zero, but episode one, was one of my favorite stories you've ever told, that fucked up story about the crucifixions.
02:15:27.000If you want some fucked up stories, the latest one, I think, was episode five, as a story that made the crucifixion look like a Disney movie.
02:15:36.000There's a story, it's a complicated long story, but to go for the essential element, there's like these two Persian brothers who are princes who are fighting in this civil war for power, and the mom of both of the guys is pissed when one of them got killed,
02:15:51.000and so at one point she's really pissed off and she wants the guy who actually killed her son to be executed, but she can't really go to her other son and say, execute this motherfucker, because...
02:15:59.000He was obeying the other son's orders, right?
02:16:03.000So she finds a way for him to fuck up, for him to say something that will piss off her other son, the king.
02:16:09.000And then the way they execute this dude is they put him in a box with only his head, his arm, and his legs sticking out, but his whole body is trapped in this box.
02:16:17.000They force-feed him, horny and other weird shit that...
02:16:22.000For the next few days, the guy is being force-fed, starts shitting all over inside the box.
02:16:27.000This attracts maggots, like flies that lay maggots in there and stuff, and they literally start walking their way inside of him.
02:16:34.000So he has maggots hatching inside of him and eating him for the next two weeks.
02:16:40.000Under the file, Happy Tales from the Ancient World, the kind of crazy shit that you want to be...
02:16:45.000I mean, what crazy motherfuckers sit down and think, I want to kill somebody, but I don't just want to kill him.
02:17:31.000I think episode three was about the Iceman, the guy that they found in the Alps from 5,000 years ago.
02:17:38.000And it's kind of like this murder mystery because we found out that he was shot with an arrow.
02:17:42.000We found all these things about his life and there are some Crazy ass details that archaeology can give us about this guy's life, what he was doing.
02:17:50.000There's evidence that he may have been doing acupuncture 2,000 years before it was ever done in China.
02:18:01.000No, they found these tattoos, but they're not tattoos like artistic tattoos.
02:18:05.000They are like dots and lines, and they are all along acupuncture points.
02:18:10.000They are all along points where he was in pain.
02:18:12.000So they think that it was kind of some primitive form of acupuncture that you would dig in that spot with needles and then you would seal it with like possibly like the way they do moksha, you know, where they burn herbs on that spot and it leaves.
02:18:24.000That's probably how those tattoos originated.
02:18:44.000There are so many out there in history that I ever feel they just pick in one and then researching the hell out of it for a couple of months.
02:18:51.000Well, there was another new one that was saying rewrites history.
02:18:53.000They found a mammoth, a dead body of a mammoth that had clear evidence of human predation, like one of the ribs had been shattered, they think, with a spear or something like that.
02:19:04.000But the problem was it was 45,000 years old in Siberia, and they didn't even know the people were there back then.