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00:02:24.000They got the RFD card, like radio frequencies.
00:02:31.000So if you're passing by and some little hacker's on his laptop, you can't steal all your Apple Pay information from your iPhone and shit like that.
00:05:24.000They say that the best way to knife fight is actually to put your arm forward, you wrap your clothes around your arm, and put a knife in your backhand.
00:05:32.000Meanwhile, why the fuck do I know what the best way to knife fight is?
00:05:35.000What are the odds you're ever going to get in a knife fight, like you and another guy on the beach, like circling each other with a knife and your jacket wrapped around your forearm?
00:06:38.000No, there's some real footage of the actual Medellin cartel, and there's some real footage of Like the different busts and some murder footage, some bodies that they really, like some of the horrible atrocities they committed.
00:09:12.000I'm on the ketogenic diet now or trying to get into it.
00:09:16.000And you talking about it with me sort of inspired me a little bit because one of the big things a lot of people are saying, you can't do explosive activities.
00:09:30.000I'll tell you what, man, if you get into any sort of a diet online or tell people you're gonna try something, the fucking experts come crawling out of the woodwork.
00:09:39.000That's why I deleted my Facebook account.
00:09:41.000I just couldn't stand, like, over the years in the UFC, I just would say, oh, sure, yeah, I'd allow you to be friends, allow you to be friends, that kind of thing.
00:09:47.000And then over time, you've got 5,000 people that think they're your pals.
00:09:52.000At least on Twitter, I follow who I want to follow.
00:09:57.000I'm sure with 1.7 million people following you online on Twitter alone, you post, you're going to do this, and people come up to woodwork about it.
00:10:06.000I would write about like, oh, I just read this book.
00:10:17.000This one paragraph somebody wrote is going to totally dispel and throw out the window what this guy spent years researching and putting together in his book.
00:11:08.000So if you up your MCTs the first three days, kind of borderline where you might shit yourself, then you totally negate any of that really feeling like groggy, like I don't have energy, or fuck man, I can't move.
00:11:20.000You can eliminate that completely with MCTs.
00:11:23.000Why does MCT oil make you shit yourself?
00:13:17.000Well, that's based on where you lived.
00:13:19.000So if you had ancestors from the poles, then you likely had big game and fruits and vegetables and things that grew in colder climates, you know, like kale and shit like that.
00:13:29.000If you were by the equator, smaller stuff, smaller live animals like chicken, fish, those kind of things, and then much more carbohydrate.
00:13:36.000But both, no matter where you were from, you had periods where you didn't eat.
00:13:40.000So that's when you'd produce your own ketones.
00:13:42.000To remain in a ketogenic state, You really do have to have a much higher level of fat than people think, like way more.
00:13:50.000It's counterintuitive, especially with cholesterol and things like that, but the research is out.
00:13:55.000I mean, these guys are putting together things.
00:13:56.000Dr. David Perlmutter wrote Grain Brain in 2013. He had research from 2013 and 2012 and 2011 all in the book.
00:14:03.000In 2015, he followed up with BrainMaker.
00:14:06.000Brand new studies are being put in that book.
00:14:08.000So this is like the very latest, and what they're showing across the board is for All the mental disorders like Alzheimer's, dementia, Parkinson's, they all have to do with really high blood sugar levels over time.
00:14:22.000So one person might manifest as type 2 diabetes, another person might get Alzheimer's.
00:15:35.000So if you can keep protein moderate, that's why now, modified Atkins or ketogenic diets, they'll tell you it's high fat, moderate protein, low carb.
00:15:44.000So when you say moderate, how many grams of protein do you get in a day?
00:15:48.000That's all individual for anybody, if you're working out, how you work out, high intensity.
00:15:52.000But for you, what are you about, 220, something like that?
00:16:27.000And they're eating everything, carbohydrates, protein, and fat, right?
00:16:31.000So when you want to gain size, that's the way to do it.
00:16:34.000But for this, you don't necessarily need that.
00:16:36.000And you can employ different methods like intermittent fasting, where they talk about skip breakfast and just eat between 12 and 7. That protein window of, oh, my nitrogen balance is lowering.
00:16:57.000Recovery, anything like that, IGF-1, growth hormone, they all go through the roof when we don't eat.
00:17:02.000So the longer we fast, the higher our ketone production is, the higher our anti-catabolic hormones are, so they're muscle-preserving.
00:17:10.000Now, you could do a fast incorrectly and you go run a long race or Or if you did high-intensity stuff fasted, then yeah, you'd be running into problems there.
00:17:20.000Well, that's because that's autolysis, right?
00:17:22.000Your body starts to break down muscle tissue.
00:17:37.000Yeah, that was a really cool conversation and very eye-opening.
00:17:40.000You know, one thing that really opened my eyes or really had me thinking was they've shown on studies recently on children that have epilepsy that putting them in a ketogenic state seems to stop epileptic seizures or significantly reduce them.
00:17:56.000That's how the diet was developed in the 1920s.
00:17:59.000I think it was John Hopkins University, or Hospital, not University, Johns Hopkins, whatever, put together.
00:18:06.000They had a team of guys there that figured it out.
00:18:21.000He's the guy who fasted for seven days and then lifted 500 pounds for 15 reps, did 585 for a single, then gave a lecture to 300 plus people on fasting and ketogenic diets.
00:19:26.000Necessary energy system, and I haven't been in ketosis for a while, and then I have, like, oh, okay, well, I'm going to get low sleep tonight, so I want ketones.
00:19:33.000I might feel like a slight difference, but it's not going to be nearly as dramatic as if I'm already in ketosis.
00:21:25.000Well, you're holding water in, for every gram of glycogen, you hold four grams of water in the muscle cell.
00:21:30.000So it makes sense if you're loading on carbohydrates and things, even if you're not carb loading, but if you're carb dependent, your muscles are going to hold more water I think?
00:23:09.000I can't write off numbers off the top of my head, but I mean when they talk about how much calories you can hold from glycogen pre-stored in the liver and all the carb loading you can do versus how much fat you have in your body, you could run for days.
00:23:25.000To dispel a bodybuilder's myth on muscle, if we lost muscle dramatically from fasting, Then how would we chase down the herd three, four, five days into not having food?
00:23:38.000We for sure evolved to be able to do this.
00:23:42.000So we could go long periods of time and still have our explosiveness when we needed it.
00:23:47.000And they weren't jumping on treadmills and doing stupid shit like we have to do now.
00:23:51.000But at the same time, it was important for human beings to be able to have energy still in a fasted state for that long.
00:23:57.000And what you're talking about, for people who are unaware, it's called persistence hunting, and it's one of the first methods of hunting that ancient people used to do and still do in parts of Africa, where they will run and chase down.
00:24:09.000An animal like an antelope, they run very fast for short periods of time, but they overheat.
00:24:14.000They get hot, and they get tired, and they can't run like we can.
00:24:18.000We can run at a slower pace for way longer.
00:28:04.000The fucking video graphics are insanely good.
00:28:08.000This is really downplayed too, just because it's the YouTube.
00:28:11.000When I go in the studio and see what they've done with it, and you get to play the game, the end game, they have whole teams that do the environment, whole teams that do buildings, everything you can go into.
00:28:22.000There's not a door in the game that you can't walk into and have some type of...
00:29:12.000If you want to talk about people that work hard, nobody works like, well, I don't want to say nobody, but they work some insane fucking long hours, man.
00:29:19.000Putting together a video game, some really time-intensive stuff.
00:30:54.000I mean, I'd have these camps where that's really how I'd spend my time, is just trying to figure out how to better myself for the fight.
00:31:02.000Well, you were in a strange position, too, because you were a guy who came to martial arts sort of late in life.
00:31:08.000So you came into it late in life as a great athlete who's learning all the different aspects of MMA, all the different martial arts techniques, and then competing in the highest level of the sport pretty much right away.
00:31:58.000Look at Cormier's striking, because he didn't have to focus on...
00:32:03.000He didn't have to spend time dividing up that pie chart into wrestling practice and other things, right?
00:32:08.000Just a little bit will keep him sharp there, but I can really learn these other things and dive into them.
00:32:13.000Well, it's also when you're a master at one of those things, like sort of how Damian Maia is with jiu-jitsu, he's such a master at it, that all those other things, you know, he just has to be proficient enough so he can get you in a position where he can use his mastery.
00:32:27.000Even look at Verdum, his striking has really improved over the years because he always had jiu-jitsu in his back pocket.
00:32:40.000But your path was the path of the ultimate fighter.
00:32:45.000That TV show, and not just people that are on the TV show, but people that do well in the smaller circuit, smaller shows, and then they get a couple fights under their belt, and they start looking good, and then they get the call.
00:33:15.000But to engineer a career correctly, you would do it sort of the same way they did with Floyd Mayweather in boxing or someone along those lines.
00:33:24.000You would take them slowly through the amateur ranks.
00:33:27.000Develop their skills and then test them a little bit more every fight.
00:35:04.000But yeah, so I got into it, and then as I was learning, there was a local guy down in Arizona, and he ran a little sleazy organization down there, and he was like, hey, you're big, and you look good, and I know you played football at ASU. Why don't you get in there and fight for me?
00:37:25.000I mean, I can't say, I give this all the credit here, but that doorway opened up other doorways, and those doorways opened up other doorways to me.
00:37:33.000And that really, that was a catalyst for me having just deep peace inside.
00:37:42.000That one little bead in fighting, you know, like wanting to do better for myself because a guy was going to punch me meant learning about meditation, learning about breath work, learning about just getting more to life, you know?
00:37:57.000Psychedelics can be a teacher as well.
00:37:58.000You know, these kind of things all kind of came to me in that same timeline.
00:38:04.000So it was sort of like the, not necessarily anxiety, but the urgency of knowing that you had to prepare for combat.
00:38:12.000That you're constantly trying to better yourself because the consequences of not doing that are so grave that it sort of ignited this fuel for improvement in you.
00:40:56.000If you hear a great song where you're working out and you're like, and you just get fucking pumped, that's a real thing, whatever that is.
00:41:03.000Like, whatever the feeling that you get that comes along with inspiration, like, Whether it's a great movie or a great song or something that just really gets you, that energy is real.
00:41:37.000She was a professor at UCLA, and they actually have a place in UCLA where they can conduct studies on the human energy field.
00:41:43.000And they've mapped this out by changing things, the electromagnetism, they can make people have emotional breakdowns, lose complete loss of motor control, like they have just all of a sudden they have to sit, they can't even stand, they can't even keep themselves up.
00:42:23.000This is an incredible Radiolab podcast where they put electrodes on this woman.
00:42:31.000They sent her through this sniper training video game thing that they do where you have like a rifle and there's a video game in front of you and presented with all these different scenarios like a hostage takeover.
00:42:54.000And then they do it when they attach these electrodes to her and stimulate with electricity parts of her head just on the outside, like transdermally.
00:43:05.000I think it's called transdermal electrical stimulation.
00:43:40.000Fuck you doing your head man because they're just taking like nine volt batteries and like taping wires to their skull and Juicing themselves no fucking clue what they're doing But there's something going on and they the researchers that are working on it think that they can accentuate learning They can accentuate flow states where you get into some sort of a zen moment guaranteed you're familiar with binaural beats,
00:44:10.000They wanted to see what sound wave therapy could do and things like that.
00:44:16.000So you would wear headphones or earbuds, and the basic concept, the premise would be...
00:44:23.000I can play something at 8 hertz through your left and 12 hertz through your right, and your brain will match them in the middle at 10 hertz.
00:44:30.000Well, 10 hertz is the frequency of alpha waves.
00:44:33.000So our brain produces a wide variety of different waves from 0.5 delta when you're in deep sleep all the way up to beta state, which we're in right now drinking coffee and thinking.
00:44:45.000In between that, you have an alpha state, which is closer to the Earth's resonance, the Earth's magnetic field.
00:45:39.000I would think, like, archery or darts or something where you just, like, or three-pointers, you know, shooting three-pointers, where you just get to that feel.
00:45:56.000I was in the beta state two nights ago when I had three hours of sleep thinking of all these possible rabbit holes we'd go down, conversation-wise.
00:46:06.000Yeah, that state of the lack of sleep state is my shittiest thinking state.
00:46:13.000I come up with my worst thoughts when I'm exhausted.
00:47:57.000Do you think food doesn't impact that?
00:48:00.000We know every cell of our body is made from what we put in, so a lot of people don't think, oh, I eat this donut and my body will change it into what it needs to be changed into.
00:48:23.000I had salmon the other night at a restaurant, and I said to my friend, I said to Tony, Tony Hinchcliffe, I was like, I don't think this is wild salmon.
00:52:24.000Well, you know, ultimately that stuff breaks down to protein and water and all the various aspects of it, but if that's all you eat...
00:52:34.000No wonder why so many people are depressed.
00:52:35.000If you look at the modern American diet, you look at the modern American diet, the sedentary lifestyle, and then you look at the fact that people feel like shit.
00:52:50.000You know, just like your liver can get sick and your lungs can get sick, your brain can get sick.
00:52:55.000But there's a whole lot of depression that I guarantee has to do with people with sedentary lifestyles, shitty diet, and just no real pushing of the body, where your body never gets to flush it out, never gets to blow those hormones up,
00:53:13.000I'd argue the brain gets sick because you let it get that way.
00:53:17.000You stop moving, you stop putting good things in your body, and then you have this downward spiral that just snowballs into deep depression that your buddy coming over is going to cheer you up.
00:53:28.000Whatever it is, you're not going to snap yourself out of that just overnight, and you're definitely not going to get it from popping a pill.
00:53:34.000You've got to get off your ass and move and start getting back out in nature.
00:53:39.000The pill thing is a weird one because I know for some people it's been very beneficial.
00:53:43.000I know people that were severely depressed, they got on antidepressants, and they eventually weaned themselves off, but they got happy first.
00:53:51.000So it's like, did they need the pills?
00:54:11.000That helped them so they don't have the pills now, right?
00:54:13.000Because they're off the pills now, right?
00:54:15.000So how do you get to that point where you can be like, I don't need this anymore.
00:54:19.000Well, two dudes that I know, one of them, he got married, fell in love, started his own business.
00:54:25.000His business became very successful, started doing really well in life, started feeling better about himself.
00:54:30.000And then it all sort of fell together.
00:54:32.000And then he said, you know what, I'm going to get off these fucking pills.
00:54:34.000And he slowly weaned himself off and he's still happy.
00:54:36.000And the other one got successful and got more confident and then realized that the pills were probably like dulling his senses in some sort of a way and then slowly weaned himself off.
00:54:48.000But he hasn't really got into exercise.
00:54:51.000The other thing he did was he got off Propecia.
00:54:54.000That Propecia shit that dudes do to keep their hair.
00:55:29.000Yeah, well, they say that, you know, there's a balance that your hormones achieve.
00:55:34.000And any time you fuck with that balance with something like Propecia that, you know, that blocks dihydrotestosterone, your body's like, all right, well, what the hell's going on here?
01:01:51.000He was talking to this guy, and the guy was like, you know, he told, you know, because BJ famously got his black belt in three years and won the Mundiales three years in, and this guy had gotten his black belt somewhere, I think, around four years.
01:02:04.000And BJ was like, well, he goes, man, you must be really talented.
01:04:36.000But they get addicted to, like, pushing themselves.
01:04:39.000Like, there's a thing that comes to some people when they get involved in these heavy endurance races where part of the addiction is one more hour, five more miles, ten more miles, push.
01:04:57.000I mean, obviously, you can deal with ticky-tack injuries and things like that or whatever you got to deal with in the race, but at a certain point in time, the mental chatter quiets down and you just find your rhythm and you find your breathing.
01:05:09.000And that can be meditative completely.
01:05:12.000And the longer it goes, the better for people like that.
01:05:15.000Once you're in that state, you know, I mean, I've felt that in half marathons on the last six miles.
01:05:21.000And finish stronger in the end than I did in the first half.
01:05:25.000You know, I'm sure runners will be like, oh yeah, of course.
01:05:27.000If you ran more, you'd know that dummy.
01:07:04.000So going for longer distance runs and having something, you know, if there's light at the end of the tunnel, like April 9th, I'm running this 50K. That makes it easy for me to come home when I'm tired and say, I gotta get at least three miles in today.
01:09:02.000And to be rigid and stiff, it impedes movement.
01:09:05.000Like, I see it a lot from people when they're trying to kick.
01:09:08.000When I see guys kicking and I see, like, stiffness and, like, a sort of general lack of fluidity in the way they move, I can tell immediately, I'm like, this guy's just not flexible enough.
01:09:18.000They're throwing these kicks and there's all this resistance from their supporting leg, there's resistance from their kicking leg, and then there's resistance from their torso.
01:09:26.000You can see it all as they start throwing kicks and then the kick will come up instead of go across.
01:10:31.000But there was a point in time where I did well with Dana Cormier, or times where I did well with Luke Rockhold, times where I did well with Mike Kyle and Paul Montello.
01:10:40.000And, you know, even in my best fights in the UFC, like with Ricardo Romero, I think that was the only time I got to get interviewed by you afterwards.
01:13:33.000I don't really put too much thought into how I could have done that better now because I have really accepted the fact that I'm done doing that.
01:13:41.000The more I would put thought into how I could have done it better, the more it makes me want to do it.
01:13:48.000What was the big deciding factor to make you want to retire?
01:13:52.000It really, really was a number of things, but, you know, I had a second job the whole time I was in the UFC, even with the Fight of the Knights.
01:14:43.000So I got an extra 40 grand, and I was getting 10 and 10. That's 60 grand, 10% coaches, 10% to management, pay the IRS. That's not a lot spread over the year, and it's less than a teacher.
01:14:55.000So I needed to work, you know, and then that's kind of how it goes.
01:15:01.000If you get hurt in a fight and you only fight that once that year, that could be the difference.
01:16:54.000Even if you both sign up for it, even if the guy talks shit before the fight, it doesn't matter what he does.
01:17:02.000I bet it would be really hard to handle if it was a mismatch.
01:17:07.000Like, say, if you took ayahuasca and you had this vision, and then you're supposed to fight somebody who you know, like, in your heart, was really fucked.
01:17:15.000Like, maybe they had bad stand-up or something like that, and you knew they weren't going to be able to take you down.
01:17:34.000Well, I mean, you still see guys know, like, they kind of snap out of it when they have the opportunity to crush someone who's lifeless and the referee still hasn't stopped them, and then they pull back.
01:17:43.000So there's moments there, and there's also moments where you're just, you know, you got the blinders on, and it's like, finish this guy, you know, and I don't give a shit when the ref comes in.
01:20:53.000So I felt the effects there on the brain.
01:20:56.000I didn't feel the effects from the orbital fractures, but I could see the effects, right?
01:21:01.000And then, you know, you see guys just a couple years older slowing down a little bit, and you learn about health and being holistic and nutrition and what am I doing for myself to be a better person?
01:21:42.000The guy was talking about addiction to things, and I never felt addicted at all to drinking, but I definitely drank like an asshole, for sure, many, many times.
01:21:52.000But he had mentioned, next time you drink, ask what you're feeding.
01:21:57.000Everything we put in our body is feeding something.
01:22:26.000Your hangovers last a little longer, you know, everything, it's harder to keep up.
01:22:30.000Well, don't you think it's also you're aware?
01:22:32.000I think when you're young, like, I remember being hungover when I was young, but I was so unaware of how that, like, what I put in, how it affected my body.
01:22:44.000I just thought of myself as, like, I was in such a fog of confusion when I was young, just trying to get through life, that I don't think I was aware of my body like I am aware of now.
01:22:55.000Now if I do things, like just changing my diet, I'm really tuned in to what kind of effect is happening, if any.
01:23:04.000When I was in my 20s, I don't know if I necessarily recovered from hangovers better, but I didn't notice it as much because I was just dumb.
01:24:39.000Actually, hearing Graham Hancock talk about his relationship on your podcast with cannabis and how ayahuasca showed him that, and he quit for a while until coming back on the podcast and spoken with you, which I thought was great.
01:25:20.000If you treat it with respect and you have an intention and a reason why you're doing it.
01:25:25.000There's a time and a place for, man, I just want to get bombed and feel out of this world or I'm going to push the envelope and maybe do a mega dose and jump into a float tank, which I still need to try.
01:25:34.000But, you know, for the most part, you can have relatively small amounts of things like that and completely improve your quality of life with zero repercussion.
01:25:44.000Because you put in the time and you have the right intention of, this is what I want to use it for.
01:27:30.000So when you look back at your career and you look back at all these wars and all these crazy fights that you got in, do you think about the damage?
01:27:40.000Is it something you just put aside and you know that there probably was some done and just move forward and stay positive and be healthy from here on out?
01:27:52.000Here's one thing that I... I disagree with people when they say, like, you know, when we grew up, they said, oh, hey, you have a set number of brain cells, and whatever you lose, you're not going to get back.
01:28:09.000And the more you do, the more new stuff you do, whether it's learning an instrument or a new language or taking a different trail to hike, whatever, that helps strengthen these new pathways, right?
01:28:19.000And make you smarter and just keep your brain young.
01:28:22.000I don't think for one second that anything that I've done in my career can't be overcome or that I can't really feel like from diets like this and supplementing with MCTs and different things like that, I feel quicker now and sharper now than I ever have in my life mentally.
01:28:44.000Yeah, that's a good way of looking at it.
01:28:48.000I've talked about this in the podcast.
01:28:49.000I don't know if you've heard about it.
01:28:50.000Bill Romanowski created that Neuro One supplement specifically because of his football career, because of all the head impacts that he had.
01:28:56.000He's having memory issues, a bunch of issues with his brain.
01:30:05.000The idea behind it is, if you're involved in a task, like for me, Alpha brain and nootropics are really critical for me because I rely on my memory a lot.
01:30:16.000Like when I'm doing the UFC, it's a big factor.
01:30:19.000I'm constantly bringing up past fights and I'm constantly talking about different situations and transitions and, you know, this happens when you do that or that.
01:30:28.000And there's all these like connections that I have to make in my brain.
01:30:30.000So verbal memory, recalling fights, things like that.
01:30:34.000Nootropics are critical for that kind of thing.
01:30:36.000But if you don't have anything that requires your memory, How do you know if it's working?
01:30:40.000If you don't have anything that requires you to form sentences on the fly, how do you know if it's working?
01:31:32.000When you can show it with 60 people and you can show that the people that take it have these effects versus the people that don't take it, this is where it will help you.
01:31:40.000But it's not going to just make you smarter.
01:31:42.000But for someone who relies on their mind a lot, whether it's for creativity or...
01:31:46.000For me, I like to take it now even before I work out.
01:31:49.000I started doing it before I work out now.
01:42:22.000They're a few bucks a piece, so I usually just do them at night when the ketones are highest just to make sure that I'm nutritionally there.
01:42:31.000MCT oil is usually worn off by that point, so I can tell like am I producing my own ketones as opposed to just getting it artificially raised from the MCTs.
01:43:09.000I've been above 3.0 from fasting or from exogenous ketones.
01:43:14.000But if I'm on a daily basis between 1.0 and 2.0, then I'm doing good.
01:43:19.000And that means the foods I'm putting in my body, I haven't, you know, exceeded my protein limits and caused gluconeogenesis or any of these things.
01:43:27.000I've dialed in my nutrition over time.
01:44:31.000I mean, if you're sending resources to build a human, and you want that steady flow, it makes sense the body would produce that in a situation like that, just in case you ran out of carbohydrates.
01:44:42.000It is interesting because women oftentimes when they're pregnant, they crave really fatty foods like they crave ice cream and things along those lines.
01:45:03.000Now, say if you're in this ketogenic state and you eat some carbohydrates, you eat like a big bowl of pasta, how much does it whack you out of that ketogenic state?
01:45:13.000Three to four days is typically what it would take to get back in.
01:45:17.000But if you've been, put it this way, I mean...
01:45:21.000Because I've been in and out of it for as long as I have and because I work out the way you work out, you know, high-intensity stuff with kettlebells or I'll go for a distance run, whatever, and then still train on the mat.
01:45:29.000That's high-intensity when you're grappling.
01:45:34.000I had a Saturday, we went off the deep end.
01:45:37.000I had like two gluten-free pizzas with Tosh and we had a bunch of gluten-free cookies and a freaking liter of this awesome grass-fed milk.
01:46:04.000So if you have a liter and you have four cups, which is easy to do when you're eating cookies, then you just had 50 grams of carbs just from the milk.
01:46:12.000Whoa, how many grams of carbs are you supposed to have a day?
01:46:15.000In a ketogenic diet, between 30 and 50 during the keto adaptation phase, which is 6 to 8 weeks.
01:46:22.000But that's the whole reason you check.
01:46:24.000Because if you're doing 50 grams a day thinking, hey, I'm within my limit, and you're still at 0.3, 0.4, Fuck what somebody else tells you.
01:46:32.000That's when it's time to dial it down a bit.
01:46:34.000Or maybe my carbohydrates are fine, but I'm still not in ketosis.
01:46:38.000That means you're eating too much protein.
01:46:40.000Or maybe I need to add more fat to my meals so the ratio is there.
01:46:44.000When they talked about it at John Hopkins, they were talking about for the kids with epilepsy, a 4 to 1 ratio of fat to protein and carbohydrates combined.
01:47:32.000There is a piss test, which doesn't work at all.
01:47:36.000The problem with that is once your body becomes keto-adapted, it learns how to better use these things so they're not excreted in the urine.
01:47:43.000So when it tests for acetone, I think is...
01:49:16.000And the thing is, you know, most diets, people, I've tried a ton of different diets.
01:49:20.000This one, you feel good because you can eat as much as you want.
01:49:23.000Like when Dave Asprey talks about eating 4,500 calories a day and working out, whatever he said, 15 minutes a fucking month or whatever, some nonsense.
01:50:52.000But when you talk to the Instagram wizards, these dieticians in training, they'll tell you, bro, you need fucking carbohydrates to operate your brain, bro.
01:51:26.000It's Gatorade that's doing a lot of the studies on carbohydrate performance.
01:51:29.000They're the guys that also proved, oh, this is the tipping point for fat oxidation in an hour, even though they use people that have been in ketosis for two weeks instead of two years.
01:51:38.000So when you talk about guys like Jeff Finney and Steve Volok, who've been doing this research now since the 80s, I think?
01:52:46.000Well, there's also awesome, and then there's better than awesome.
01:52:49.000You know, like some people say, like, hey, I've been on this kind of diet and I feel fantastic, so I'm just going to keep it the way it is.
01:52:55.000Well, meanwhile, if you added a certain thing to your diet or added a little bit more vitamin D or added a little bit more, you might feel actually better.
01:54:50.000I've brought this article up more than once, but I read this article written by this woman who's 70 years old, struggled with weight her whole life, and she was promoting fat acceptance, and that people are prejudiced towards people that are overweight, but in fact,
01:55:05.000she's incredibly healthy, and she's so active, and she does all these things.
01:55:09.000She's just always been heavy, and I'm like, mm.
01:55:12.000See, scientifically, that doesn't make any sense.
01:55:22.000But she's promoting it in this article, like, if you didn't know any better and just took this article, it's like, well, this is this one woman's account of her life, and by her accounts, she's incredibly healthy.
01:55:33.000She's hiking, and she's so active, and she's eating healthy, but she's just fat.
01:57:46.000That's not my place to be like, hey, you fat fuck.
01:57:48.000You know, like that helped me grow from that.
01:57:51.000And that was a huge, that was like, how could puking be good?
01:57:55.000That puking is amazing when you're getting rid of something like that.
01:57:59.000Right, like you're letting go of a thought that you had, like this attachment that you had.
01:58:03.000Yeah, I mean, there's a certain holier-than-thou attitude that certain people with great metabolisms and active lifestyles will have towards people that maybe they just, when they grew up, they weren't led towards athletics.
01:58:19.000Maybe they had poor diets in the home, they didn't know any better, and now here they find themselves X amount of years later, a product to a whole series of things.
01:58:29.000Yeah, think of the impact it would have.
01:58:30.000You always get picked last for kickball or handball or any of that stupid, those dumb playground games.
01:59:34.000But, so, forever, this person that I know that has this issue, his association with women is of women, they use him, they want things from him, his money, they don't want him, and they treat him badly, and he feels like shit and hateful.
02:00:23.000So this, like, this association can often be correlated by what kind of a relationship do you have with the opposite sex.
02:00:32.000Like if you're a woman and you're overweight and you've always been fat, your whole life has been like a series of drunken moments with men who felt sick after they were with you and you were rejected and any man that you were attracted to wanted to have nothing to do with you.
02:00:48.000So your feelings about men are just this, ugh!
02:00:52.000They're angry, these assholes, these bros, these douchebags.
02:00:57.000Not taking into consideration like, well, what is this relationship you have with him and what's the root cause of it?
02:01:03.000Some of it is outside of your, if it's just genetics, completely outside of your control.
02:01:08.000There's nothing you can do about the way your face looks or how tall you are or how short you are or how big your feet are.
02:01:15.000You know, there's nothing you can do about that.
02:01:18.000The relationship between how what you look and how physically attractive you are sexually like people's desire to reproduce with you it really comes down to that in a lot of ways like what is the relationship you have with the opposite sex because boy When you go and really pay attention to,
02:01:38.000like, hardcore feminists, what you find is a lot of older, successful women and women that are overweight and not attractive.
02:01:47.000And you find, you know, all sorts of different people in between there.
02:01:51.000But there's an overwhelming number of people that have not had good success with the opposite sex, both from women-hating men and from men-hating women.
02:02:04.000If you look at it that way, it's extremely unfortunate.
02:02:07.000Taking out gender inequality, financial issues, all sorts of issues that also come with being a male men's rights advocate or a woman's rights advocate, a feminist, there's an overall attitude that people have an issue with when it comes to someone who identifies with one gender or another gender and despises the other gender.
02:02:29.000Oftentimes, it's because their associations and relationships with that gender have been negative due to the fact that they're not desired.
02:04:45.000Every fucking evil, nasty douchebag that seeks you out to say mean shit to you after a loss and tweets at you.
02:04:55.000I mean, I've seen some horrific shit that guys write to fighters directly after a loss, both on Facebook and on Instagram, Twitter, everything.
02:06:12.000It's like they're looking at this one person, this one thing, this object that they can attack, and they're externalizing all the issues they have with themselves, the imbalances they have.
02:06:26.000And this new ability that we have to reach people and communicate with people that really don't want to have anything to do with you.
02:06:32.000In the real world, Ryan Bader doesn't give a fuck about this guy's opinion.
02:07:16.000Greenflower Media did a thing on me talking about cannabis and CBD and how many guys in the sport use and just not naming names and Jose Canseco-ing it, but talking about a lot of a smoked pot.
02:08:29.000Allow me to knock you down here a couple pegs while we're talking.
02:08:33.000Well, there's also people that don't recognize what they're doing and they're just talking.
02:08:39.000They're just making noises and they're not even evil.
02:08:42.000They just don't realize what they're saying is hurtful or stupid or idiotic because they've been given this access to people that's unprecedented.
02:09:24.000They were like, I remember when you had to take a boat to get here from Europe.
02:09:28.000And then, you know, we grew up in a much more technologically advanced era, but our kids are going to grow up in an era that's mind-blowing to us, but their kids are going to grow up in an era of virtual reality that makes this look like a joke.
02:09:44.000You know, yeah, my dad's always bragging about how awesome Mafia 3 was.
02:09:48.000Listen, you know, You had to sit in front of a box like I'm in the fucking Star Trek room surrounded by killers right now.
02:09:55.000Yeah, we're probably gonna go to places just like those old Schwarzenegger movies or any of those movies.
02:09:59.000You're gonna probably go to a place, you're gonna lie down, they're gonna clamp some shit down on the side of your head and you go, are you ready, Mr. Kingsbury?
02:10:07.000Give me the thumbs up if you're ready to launch.
02:10:09.000You give the thumbs up and you're in the Avatar world and you're riding a fucking dragon.
02:10:14.000That's gonna happen inside of the next hundred years.
02:10:22.000If they keep going, we don't blow ourselves up, we don't get hit by an asteroid, they're gonna come up with artificial reality that's indistinguishable from this reality.
02:10:30.000And all of our entertainment is going to be a joke.
02:10:32.000Like, why would you actually jump out of a plane and go skydiving when you can get the skydiving experience with this thing on your head that's going to make you feel like you did?
02:10:49.000You could video, and they had like snuff videos where a guy would actually kill somebody and you felt what he felt when he killed another person.
02:10:56.000Like you felt all the neurotransmitters, everything was going through your brain, the heart racing feeling of actually ending someone's life.
02:11:03.000And you know, that was the illegal portion of it.
02:11:05.000And they had the legal portion would be like sex with your loved one or whatever, those kind of things.
02:11:10.000But you could actually tap into the consciousness of someone's memory as long as that was recorded.
02:11:45.000The idea behind all of this is obviously that our bodies It takes thousands of years.
02:11:50.000They say about 10,000 years for your genes to totally change and adapt to new diet, new environment, new lifestyle.
02:11:57.000And so we're dealing with bodies that are primarily adjusted to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle.
02:12:03.000And all this other stuff that we've added into it over the last 10, 20,000 years or whatever, agriculture, grains, growing different foods.
02:12:10.000You keep them in storage bins and things like that, like grain silos.
02:13:58.000You go there, you're like, you're going from one place to another, and this restaurant, that building, and look at this view, and holy shit, and get on the subway, and you're fucking cruising along under the buildings, and it's awesome!
02:14:11.000But it's awesome in a completely different way.
02:14:13.000It's awesome in this new way, this new bizarre way that we're sort of adapting to.
02:14:18.000And this new way is available to us and wasn't available to people 10,000 years ago.
02:14:25.000If you took someone from 10,000 years ago and brought them to Manhattan and just put them in the 72nd floor of one of those apartment buildings with a crazy view and just look out.
02:16:34.000But I'm willing to bet from somebody who sits too long or has stress, you know, and different things like that, like, there very much can be a physical attachment to emotion.
02:16:44.000And if you've ever had, like, bodywork done and somebody, you have a, you know, somebody's working through a knot and you all of a sudden start thinking of this thing that's been bothering you.
02:17:36.000From a feel-good standpoint, feeling better at the ocean might just be the view.
02:17:40.000But from an electrical standpoint, there are, and this goes back to the studies done at UCLA, there very much is an electrical standpoint that changes from the ionic energy coming from the waves, coming from the water, coming from the wind that's above the water.
02:22:05.000And I don't know how that's going to stop.
02:22:07.000That seems to be ingrained in our idea of feeding cities.
02:22:13.000It seems like the only way they can produce enough meat to feed all these fucking people in these cities, the way they're doing it now, is to continue this factory farming method.
02:23:21.000If people are willing to spend it and this is what they want, they're going to supply it, period.
02:23:25.000Yeah, but there's also those ag-gag laws that keep people from filming factory farms where they pack these chickens into these horrible living conditions and you can't film it.
02:23:37.000If you film it, you can get in deep trouble.
02:23:57.000I mean, that river of piss and shit that comes out of the bottom of that place and settles into that little lake that they had in front of them.
02:24:11.000Imagine just living there, like working there rather, like someone who works in there, like the sadness you feel every day and the smells that you take in through your nose every day.
02:24:21.000PETA was showing a video, probably one of the worst that I actually had the balls to watch, of how faux gras is made in France.
02:25:44.000It was like, you know, there were some openings where the chickens could breathe, like some small holes in the side of the truck, and you're just realizing this is like a thing that's packed with life that's being treated like a commodity, like stacked rocks, you know?
02:26:18.000Well, it's what happened when we made these city things.
02:26:21.000This is also something that didn't exist 10, 20,000 years ago.
02:26:24.000When they had any kind of agriculture back then, you grew some livestock, you killed those animals, you knew where they lived, you knew what they ate, or you knew the guy who raised them.
02:26:34.000And then somewhere along the line, someone said, we need like a Costco of farming.
02:26:40.000We need to get a big place and stuff everything in there and close it to the general public so nobody can see and jab these fuckers with needles and fill them up with antibiotics so they don't get sick from all this crazy food we're giving them.
02:26:56.000People are much more aware now and they're asking for free-range food and antibiotic-free food and grass-fed meats and things along those lines, but most people can't afford it.
02:28:08.000There's a bunch of these documentaries where people are examining how food is made and prepared and where it's coming from and how they're growing it.
02:28:15.000And we're more aware of it now than ever before.
02:28:17.000So some people, at least, some people, there's a movement to make more conscious choices.
02:28:22.000And this wasn't around when our parents were around.
02:28:26.000I don't think factory farming was around when they were around either.
02:28:29.000There's also the difference in the amount of people.
02:28:31.000I mean, I've read something about the 1970s.
02:28:34.000There was like a hundred million plus less people in America in the 1970s.
02:30:07.000Different languages and speaking French and speaking Spanish.
02:30:10.000And so she has to go up and do this little thing.
02:30:13.000It's just like this little proud moment.
02:30:15.000And afterwards, she's like beaming and she's so happy.
02:30:18.000She's five, you know, and she runs up to me and jumps in my arms and gives me this big hug.
02:30:22.000The love that you get from that, the feeling that you get of warmth and of love and of connection with this little tiny beautiful human, boy, it's like nothing else like it.
02:30:31.000And then you also recognize, and this was one of the big ones for me, as my children got older and I started...
02:30:37.000Putting it all, sort of trying at least to put the pieces of it all together.
02:30:42.000I started looking at people like they're babies.
02:30:46.000Like, oh, this fucked up dude who's all angry at the world and just devastated and just emotionally a wreck.
02:30:54.000That was a baby that just didn't get the love that he needed.
02:30:58.000Or a baby that was abused, or a baby that was neglected, or a baby that was rejected, like, whatever it was, this fucked up person, now, in my mind, became a baby.
02:31:45.000And the work that's required, most people are not willing to do DMT. Most people are not willing to, you know, to change their diet and to take yoga every morning and to fucking get up early and meditate for 20 minutes every day to try to be mindful.
02:32:00.000Most people are just acting on momentum, just scrambling and...
02:34:04.000I was listening to you and Red Band talk about this and mescaline and things like that and peyote and I was like, man, I can't believe with having tried other things that you didn't try that.
02:34:13.000Yeah, there's a bunch of shit I haven't tried.
02:34:17.000Jim Fadiman, who wrote The Psychedelic Explorer's Guide, I heard him on Ferris' podcast, got his book, read it, and then I saw that MAPS was doing the Multidisciplinary Association of Psychedelic Studies, was doing a presentation in Palo Alto down the street from me, and Rick Doblin, the head of MAPS, was going to be there presenting with Jim Fadiman.
02:34:34.000I was like, oh, this is amazing, I gotta go.
02:34:38.000Once you've had a breakthrough psychedelic experience, it's amazing.
02:34:42.000It can be life-changing or it can fuck your mind up, whatever.
02:35:01.000And he said that's really the future of psychedelic research, and that's exactly what Hoffman was doing until he died at 102 years old, the guy who developed LSD. So we went and I listened to these guys speak, and since then I have tried microdosing with LSD,
02:36:01.000It's all these weird people that are pushing it and they want it like Duncan is the only guy that I know that gets real acid and we've sort of made a loose Commitment to me and him getting together and doing it one day.
02:36:13.000I'll definitely talk about it, but The thing that I've been really into that I get these big breakthrough objective moments introspective moments is edible pot And flotation chambers.
02:36:31.000There's something about sensory deprivation with the edible pot.
02:36:35.000It creates this bizarre Sort of hallucinogenic state, visionary state, that's very unusual.
02:36:45.000From a visionary standpoint, when you see, obviously you're in pitch black, so anything you see in your mind's eye is what you're seeing.
02:36:53.000Would you say you see more of the sacred geometry or the kaleidoscope of shapes and things that you do from DMT? Or do you just see a memory?
02:37:02.000Or you relive something, or maybe you see something from...
02:37:06.000That's been on your mind and you live that moment for a second and then pull back out of it.
02:37:10.000Well, that's one of the fascinating things about it is the experience is incredibly flexible.
02:37:14.000Whereas, like, the experience of DMT, although it varies, it's also very DMT. Like, when you do DMT, you're like...
02:37:26.000Oh, reality dissolves and you're there.
02:37:28.000Like, the last one that I had was very strange.
02:37:30.000Like, there was these jesters that were giving me the finger.
02:38:05.000And there's this weird fractal thing that's constantly going on.
02:38:10.000But every time I do it, it seems like these lessons that are wrapped up in these visions with communicating entities, whatever the fuck they are, whether they're figments of your imagination or whether they're real, there's always lessons in there.
02:38:24.000And these lessons are always pertaining to either a personal history That I got going on or something that I'm struggling with or trying to overcome or something that I'm constantly focusing on and trying to understand better.
02:38:38.000So it's like, let me help you out there, dude.
02:39:10.000But the cannabis, the edible cannabis, the 11-hydroxymetabolite state that you get from edible cannabis, which is dose per dose five times more psychoactive than THC. That's why people, when they eat it, they trip out and they go, oh my god, I think somebody laced it with something.
02:39:26.000No, it's very much like an intense psychedelic when you eat it.
02:39:31.000That's why you've got to be careful and not eat too much.
02:39:34.000People that fucking freak out and have panic attacks, it's because it's strong as shit when you eat it.
02:39:39.000But in the tank, Sometimes I go on these journeys that I'm in the forest and I can hear other languages and I understand them and I don't know what the fuck they are.
02:39:51.000And sometimes I'm a part of a ball of yarn that the universe is made out of.
02:39:57.000And each individual fiber that's in this gigantic strand that's a part of this wrapped up ball of yarn is all the individual atoms that make up being a person or a tree or a book or a rock and all these different things are intertwined and it shows you the fractal nature of reality from the lowest Subatomic particle to the the biggest planet in the solar system to the biggest galaxy in the universe and it just goes out
02:40:27.000there in this very strange and humbling and bizarre like a Vulnerable like vulnerability inducing state and then it'll go from that to cartoons fucking like it'll go like neon cartoons Banging each other and producing a bunch of other neon car.
02:40:44.000You had me at cartoons fucking Dude, there's not just cartoons fucking, but they're like neon.
02:40:49.000They're like made out of like neon lights.
02:40:52.000And they're banging each other and they're becoming other ones.
02:40:55.000Having that goddamn thing in my basement is a blessing and a curse at the same time.
02:41:00.000Because it's a blessing in that it's great that I can go in there anytime I want.
02:41:05.000But sometimes one crazy trip will just leave me like baffled for days.
02:43:54.000It felt like the vibrations of the earth as if it was loving you and breathing.
02:44:00.000You felt connected to it in a way that I never felt before.
02:44:04.000But there was not much visions because you're out there.
02:44:08.000I mean, it seemed alive and everything seemed strange.
02:44:11.000It was kind of pixelated and everything sort of had a geometric pattern to it in a weird way that you never experience.
02:44:19.000Tasha and I have had him at the beach, and we had a monster dose one time after ayahuasca has really kind of improved other psychedelic experiences for both of us.
02:46:55.000And then I realized every fucking day of my life since I was a little kid, I play that out.
02:47:02.000Anytime someone gives me a dirty look or says, like, whatever, being picked on as a kid, bullied, that kind of shit, like, I always play that out, like, am I gonna have to fight this guy?
02:47:11.000Am I gonna have to fucking defend myself?
02:47:21.000But it just showed me how silly this dumbass mind game that I would play, and I would go down the rabbit hole on a fucking daily basis sometimes.
02:47:28.000Like, just playing into this thought of negativity that had no space for me.
02:47:33.000And it does me no good to play that out.
02:47:35.000Like, well, that's fine, because then I'll do this.
02:48:32.000Sometimes I bet certain people, whether it's the people that deal with the cops or certain people that are cops, things happen that don't need to happen because people have these ideas or have these patterns that are playing on in their head.
02:48:47.000And for a cop, I would imagine it's got to be incredibly difficult because you're dealing with all these people that are constantly breaking laws and violating things and you're supposed to enforce them and you're constantly worried about getting shot and getting home to your family.
02:48:59.000You're constantly worried about pulling some guy over and he's got fucking 20 pounds of coke in the back and a machine gun in his front seat.
02:49:04.000You don't know because his windows are tinted.
02:49:06.000And you're like, sir, roll down your window, and you get your hand on your gun, and you're like, what the fuck am I getting into here?
02:49:10.000And then these patterns that people have, whether it's as a police officer or as a person getting pulled over by cops, they can change the way you interact with people and change the circumstances of the day and turn a tragedy into a nothing or a nothing into a tragedy.
02:50:08.000This idea that there's a perfect person, this is an enlightened being.
02:50:12.000There are people that choose to go down certain paths that will lead to them making better decisions, lead to them living a more harmonious life.
02:50:24.000You're just some fucking talking ape that's on this planet filled with contradictions and chaos, and you're trying to get through, like all of us are.
02:50:32.000And there's gonna be interrelationship drama, and work drama, and fucking community drama, and neighborhood drama, and sometimes you'll be too stressed out, or too tired, or too distracted, or too overworked, or whatever the fuck it is,
02:50:48.000and you're gonna have a bad reaction to those things.
02:50:51.000That's a real problem that people have, though, is one bad reaction, like you yell at your neighbor, and your neighbor, fuck you, and the cops come.
02:50:57.000You piece of shit, I'm gonna slash your tires and fuck you.
02:50:59.000And these things that happen, I got a buddy of mine last night explaining to me something that he got into with his neighbor, and he accused his neighbor of slashing his tire, and he fucking yelled at his neighbor, and then he got his car picked up by AAA, they changed his tire,
02:51:42.000Like, because his neighbor would get pissed because he parked in front of his house, and the guy had trash cans, and he's like, you're parking too close to my trash cans, I can't get my trash cans out.
02:52:16.000You will fucking fall into the path of that instead of having the humility or at least...
02:52:21.000Getting a little help from an outside source that allows you to take a step back, pull the blinders off and see what's going on and be like, you know what, man, I fucked up.
02:52:29.000That's also why objectivity is so important and introspective thought is so important because sometimes people just make excuses for everything they do.
02:52:38.000Everything they do, they have a fucking excuse for.
02:52:48.000And then one day you're a bitter old man yelling at these kids to stop with their fucking rock and roll music and your goddamn car driving down my street with your loud muffler.