The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #768 - Ian McCall, Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen

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00:00:11.000 As usual.

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00:00:20.000 I'm full of opinions, everybody.

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00:00:23.000 This is essentially sort of a preview of this weekend's fight, but really it's just a chance to get together and fuck around.

00:00:31.000 I was told it was a breakdown.

00:00:35.000 I was told a breakdown.

00:00:36.000 Did you prepare?

00:00:37.000 I've studied all night for a breakdown.

00:00:38.000 I have my notes.

00:00:39.000 I was told this is a breakdown.

00:00:41.000 What are your thoughts, sir?

00:00:42.000 I'm glad you asked.

00:00:44.000 I'm going to go with Nate Diaz.

00:00:48.000 Now ask me why.

00:00:49.000 Wow.

00:00:49.000 Why?

00:00:50.000 Well, the way I look at it, and correct me if I'm wrong, Connors boxed the daylights at everybody who, for the most part, either has his reach or smallest.

00:01:00.000 What he does is he hangs on the edge of the pocket.

00:01:01.000 That's a very good point.

00:01:02.000 He hangs on the edge of the pocket, and he's a counterpuncher, waits until you commit, slips and hits.

00:01:06.000 He's dealing with something very different with Nate, which is that Nate is longer and taller, and Nate doesn't have to do that.

00:01:12.000 And I wonder what he's going to have to do is either one of two things.

00:01:15.000 He's going to have to weave and get inside, or because Nate stands so flat, I mean sort of squares up with you, I guess he could back kick and front kick his body.

00:01:27.000 But Conor doesn't kick...

00:01:28.000 It's not when you think, watch out for Conor's hard kicks.

00:01:33.000 He actually kicks pretty good.

00:01:34.000 He has very good kicks.

00:01:36.000 You also haven't seen much of him because he's smoking everyone.

00:01:39.000 He's murking everyone.

00:01:41.000 But Nate's a very durable guy too.

00:01:43.000 He spends a lot of time in those gyms with a lot of those Mexican boxers that stand in the hole and just bang.

00:01:48.000 Which isn't Conor.

00:01:49.000 It's not, but I wonder how Conor's going to actually have to change a little bit of his boxing, and I'm curious to see how he does that.

00:01:55.000 Well, he's only fought one guy that's tall, and that's Max Holloway, and he's coincidentally the one guy that went through a decision with him.

00:02:00.000 He was also hurt in that fight.

00:02:02.000 He hurt his knee in that fight.

00:02:04.000 During the fight, when he was passing the guard, he blew out his ACL. So, that definitely had a huge, huge effect.

00:02:12.000 But I think that you make some good points.

00:02:14.000 I think Dos Anjos showed a bit of the blueprint on how to beat Nate.

00:02:19.000 And one of the big things is that Nate stands real heavy on that front leg.

00:02:23.000 He comes in, he fires that hard right jab and stands real heavy on that front leg.

00:02:28.000 And Dos Anjos just lit that leg up.

00:02:30.000 He lit his legs up.

00:02:31.000 And because of that boxing-centered style, I mean, Nate will throw the occasional kick, but primarily he fights boxing when he's fighting.

00:02:39.000 His boxing's very good.

00:02:41.000 It is.

00:02:41.000 Very sharp.

00:02:42.000 He boxed up Gray Maynard.

00:02:44.000 He boxed up Marcus Davis.

00:02:46.000 Michael Johnson.

00:02:47.000 Josh Thompson.

00:02:47.000 Michael Johnson, his last fight was one of his best fights.

00:02:50.000 Unbelievable.

00:02:50.000 Mike, Josh Thompson head-kicked him and knocked him out.

00:02:52.000 That's right.

00:02:52.000 Yeah.

00:02:53.000 That was a different, you know, that was Josh Thompson, man.

00:02:57.000 That dude's had a series of injuries, but I still maintain he's one of the best lightweights in the world.

00:03:01.000 Especially when he's in Strikeforce.

00:03:03.000 Yeah.

00:03:03.000 Well, he's getting older.

00:03:04.000 That's the issue.

00:03:05.000 He's like 36 years old now.

00:03:07.000 That's all it is.

00:03:08.000 Yeah.

00:03:08.000 But do you think that Conor's met anyone yet who's as good a boxer as Nate?

00:03:13.000 No.

00:03:13.000 Because Nate's a good boxer.

00:03:13.000 Definitely not.

00:03:14.000 Maybe Max.

00:03:15.000 Maybe Max.

00:03:17.000 Right.

00:03:17.000 But Max back then was two years ago plus.

00:03:21.000 Max was not as good as he is now.

00:03:23.000 We're confident.

00:03:23.000 Max is on fire right now.

00:03:25.000 Max Holloway's on fire.

00:03:27.000 I'd like to see him and Conor fight now.

00:03:29.000 That's a fight.

00:03:30.000 Fuck yeah.

00:03:30.000 It's coming, I think.

00:03:32.000 Well, I don't know about that, but I don't think that Conor really wants that 145 weight class anymore.

00:03:37.000 I mean, he looks so big right now.

00:03:39.000 Yeah, he has it.

00:03:39.000 And I think at 55, fighting Dos Anjos, that's the fight at UFC 200, if he gets past Nate Diaz.

00:03:46.000 It actually is kind of interesting if he gets past Nate Diaz, you know, because it makes that fight bigger.

00:03:51.000 The fight at 200, it really makes it bigger.

00:03:54.000 You know, Dos Anjos broke his foot in the last minute of the last round of sparring.

00:03:59.000 He's going against a high-level kickboxer.

00:04:01.000 And he checked the kick.

00:04:03.000 Broke his foot.

00:04:03.000 We use the same masseuse, and of course, you know, I get a text message like, Fuck!

00:04:08.000 This happened exactly.

00:04:10.000 Last minute, last round kind of thing.

00:04:11.000 That's the thing, though.

00:04:12.000 At Kings, they go hard, man.

00:04:14.000 Do they wear foot pads?

00:04:15.000 That's why they're so good.

00:04:16.000 Do they wear...

00:04:16.000 Well, it's like a shin pad, so it's over it.

00:04:18.000 But if we throw him that hard and a high-level kickboxer is checking it, it's tough, man.

00:04:22.000 If you kick as hard as he does and you kick a tree, you're going to fucking break your foot.

00:04:26.000 See, I think...

00:04:28.000 We know what Nate Diaz is going to bring to the table.

00:04:31.000 I think Conor knows.

00:04:32.000 I think everyone in this room knows what he's going to do.

00:04:34.000 We don't know what Conor's really going to do.

00:04:36.000 We really haven't seen all his tools, man.

00:04:38.000 I think Diaz is the perfect matchup so he can showcase all his tools.

00:04:43.000 Because Diaz, I don't think he's going to get murked in the first round.

00:04:45.000 We're going to see a lot of Conor and what he brings to the table.

00:04:48.000 Well, Conor's really good at lulling you with those kicks and then stepping in with that big left hand.

00:04:54.000 That left hand is just a fucking monster punch.

00:04:57.000 From heaven.

00:04:58.000 Oh, man, he just throws it so perfect and he's got so much power behind it.

00:05:02.000 But I'll tell you, man, it's hard to hit Nate Diaz clean.

00:05:06.000 Hard to hit him clean.

00:05:07.000 He's tall.

00:05:08.000 He's slick.

00:05:09.000 He moves a lot.

00:05:11.000 You know, it's hard because his range is good.

00:05:14.000 He's also good at ducking under shit.

00:05:16.000 You know, he's good at anticipating.

00:05:17.000 He's also high here, you know.

00:05:19.000 Yeah.

00:05:19.000 It could be interesting.

00:05:20.000 I think, man, if Nate Diaz got to a serious Muay Thai camp and really learned how to kick correctly and made more distance and then threw the occasional fucking takedown attempt in there.

00:05:31.000 I think with a lot of these guys, one of the issues is they got a great formula and that formula is winning fights and it can carry them very far.

00:05:39.000 But is it the best strategy?

00:05:41.000 The best strategy is the guy you're fighting that doesn't have any idea what the fuck you're about to do.

00:05:46.000 That's the George St. Pierre strategy.

00:05:48.000 George would just mix it up so well, and it was like one of his best assets.

00:05:52.000 He really didn't know what his attack was going to be.

00:05:55.000 With these guys, you know what their attack's going to be.

00:05:57.000 With Nate, you know what his attack's going to be.

00:05:59.000 But it's a fucking good attack.

00:06:01.000 It's a good attack, but I think we're seeing a changing of the guard.

00:06:04.000 You're seeing these athletes like Luke Rockhold, who's just a freak.

00:06:07.000 Conor McGregor, these guys who can do it all.

00:06:09.000 So you have the old guard with...

00:06:12.000 I'm not hating on these guys, but I was one of the old guards.

00:06:15.000 I like to wrestle, box.

00:06:18.000 Didn't do a lot of kickboxing, didn't do a lot of kicks.

00:06:20.000 You look at Rashad Evans, really not a kickboxer.

00:06:22.000 Good at wrestling, good at boxing.

00:06:23.000 We know he's going to bring you to the table.

00:06:24.000 But Crazy's got a big head kick knockout in Sean Salmon.

00:06:27.000 That was one of his biggest highlight reel KOs.

00:06:30.000 For sure, but how long ago was that?

00:06:32.000 Long time ago, but you would have thought that that would have been a bigger part of his arsenal.

00:06:35.000 I agree.

00:06:36.000 He can do it.

00:06:36.000 He's athletic enough.

00:06:37.000 You look at a guy like Ryan Bader, wrestler, boxer.

00:06:40.000 So you have this old guard.

00:06:41.000 The new guys coming up, man, if you don't have it all, good luck.

00:06:44.000 And they're tossing these guys up who are phenomenal fighters.

00:06:48.000 They have these huge fan base and stuff like that, and they're giving it to these young athletic guys, and good luck with that skill set, man.

00:06:57.000 I think this sport is just still evolving.

00:07:00.000 We're in the middle of it and we're watching it happen, but it's still all over the place.

00:07:05.000 Your weight class is a perfect example.

00:07:07.000 Your weight class, you cannot be one-dimensional.

00:07:10.000 You cannot.

00:07:11.000 There's no one.

00:07:12.000 You can't do it.

00:07:13.000 It's not an option.

00:07:15.000 There's no one who's one-dimensional who's anywhere near the top ten.

00:07:19.000 Maybe out of the top five, say, Formiga is the most one-dimensional, or Cejudo.

00:07:23.000 But are they really?

00:07:24.000 You know, Formiga is this amazing ground guy, but he tries to kickbox with everybody.

00:07:28.000 Cejudo is the wrestler, but he's trying to punch a hole in your head.

00:07:31.000 His fucking striking is not bad.

00:07:33.000 Cejudo's striking is very, very sharp.

00:07:35.000 A little slow for the weight class, but he's so strong, and he does negate the gap very well.

00:07:41.000 So I think that...

00:07:43.000 He takes care of his lack of speed, but then you fight someone like Demetrius where everything is about speed.

00:07:50.000 So that's where I think he's still too slow to beat Demetrius.

00:07:53.000 It's gonna be an interesting fight.

00:07:54.000 It's gonna be a real interesting fight.

00:07:56.000 I mean, you're talking about a guy who's an Olympic gold medalist in wrestling.

00:07:59.000 And he's a motherfucker with his mindset.

00:08:02.000 I mean, he's a winner.

00:08:04.000 So who knows?

00:08:04.000 Just a straight up winner.

00:08:06.000 Straight up winner.

00:08:06.000 All those Olympic athletes that come out of the UFC, they're all pretty successful, man.

00:08:10.000 Think about them.

00:08:11.000 You've got Dan Henderson, DC, Cejudo, Ronda Rousey.

00:08:17.000 That Olympic mindset, man, it's priceless.

00:08:21.000 Do you remember when Mark Schultz fought?

00:08:23.000 Yes.

00:08:23.000 It was like, hello everybody.

00:08:25.000 They're lucky.

00:08:26.000 The whole division is so lucky that he had a good wrestling teaching gig.

00:08:32.000 Yeah, they got a good offer.

00:08:34.000 They wouldn't let him fight in the UFC. Was he Brigham Young?

00:08:39.000 I think that's what he was with.

00:08:40.000 And they were like, you can't fight in the UFC. You can't fight cage fighting while you're teaching wrestling.

00:08:44.000 Not BYU, son.

00:08:45.000 They're so lucky because if that motherfucker got in there, everybody's on their back.

00:08:51.000 Look at Yo Romero.

00:08:51.000 Every single person.

00:08:52.000 Look at Yo Romero.

00:08:53.000 What's interesting about somebody like Yo Romero is that you've seen him get taken down.

00:08:57.000 He doesn't give a fuck.

00:08:58.000 Yeah.

00:08:58.000 You can take him down.

00:08:59.000 I'll just stand up.

00:09:00.000 I'll just stand up.

00:09:01.000 Cool luck holding me down with gay Jesus on my side.

00:09:04.000 Gay Jesus on my side.

00:09:07.000 Yeah.

00:09:07.000 The way you hold him down is drug test him.

00:09:09.000 You want to hold him down?

00:09:10.000 Go ahead and drug test him.

00:09:11.000 Or put gay Jesus on top of him.

00:09:13.000 Let's be real.

00:09:15.000 So screwed.

00:09:17.000 So screwed.

00:09:18.000 Oh, I don't mean to flip scripts there, but how about Bisbing Anderson Silva?

00:09:22.000 I was blowing your phone up during that.

00:09:24.000 Yeah, man.

00:09:24.000 Blowing you up.

00:09:26.000 First of all, Bisbing is one of the toughest fucking men on the planet.

00:09:31.000 God.

00:09:31.000 That dude has one eyeball.

00:09:33.000 He got knocked out dead at the end of the third round.

00:09:36.000 Came back and won the fourth.

00:09:38.000 What the fuck?

00:09:39.000 How is that not talked about?

00:09:40.000 The guy's blind in one eye.

00:09:41.000 People don't know that.

00:09:42.000 He must be able to see something.

00:09:43.000 He can see something, but it's...

00:09:46.000 Because we were reading the teleprompter, and it's difficult.

00:09:50.000 That eye is, I guess, at certain angles, he's got to hold his eye a certain way because it's kind of tunnel vision.

00:09:55.000 There's oil in it.

00:09:56.000 There's oil in his retina.

00:09:57.000 So he has to read with the other eye.

00:09:58.000 Of his eye.

00:09:59.000 Yeah, and that's to protect the retina, keep it in place.

00:10:01.000 Is that the idea?

00:10:02.000 They can't attach it yet because if they attach it...

00:10:04.000 Does it rip off again?

00:10:05.000 Yeah, if they attach it again, it'll be more damaging.

00:10:08.000 So he has to wait until after he's done fighting, they can reattach.

00:10:10.000 So think about this.

00:10:11.000 He beat Anderson Silva with one eye.

00:10:13.000 Oh, and Anderson's a southpaw, you fucks.

00:10:15.000 How crazy is that?

00:10:17.000 Crazy.

00:10:17.000 It's nuts, man.

00:10:18.000 Nick Diaz beat him high.

00:10:20.000 Yeah, right?

00:10:21.000 The flying knee that Anderson landed was goddamn glorious.

00:10:24.000 It was nice.

00:10:25.000 The way he did it, he jumps up with the front leg or with the right leg, and then there's almost like a pause in the air.

00:10:32.000 Kadoosh!

00:10:34.000 He still had that ability to move, like just kind of stare at you right against the cage.

00:10:40.000 It was weird when he was in the middle of the cage.

00:10:42.000 He didn't seem to want to throw.

00:10:44.000 It was so weird.

00:10:44.000 You felt like he had Bisping, especially at the beginning of the fourth round, he could have capitalized and he was hesitant.

00:10:51.000 He's 40. Is that what it is?

00:10:53.000 He's 40. He's a 40-year-old man.

00:10:55.000 I don't know why we can't just chalk that up.

00:10:57.000 He's just an older fighter, man.

00:10:59.000 He's phenomenal.

00:10:59.000 Fighting natural.

00:11:00.000 Yeah.

00:11:01.000 And, you know, Bisping was giving him a ton of shit, saying, you've been on steroids your whole career.

00:11:06.000 Fair assumption.

00:11:07.000 We don't know if that's true or not true.

00:11:09.000 We just know the one time he was tested, he got caught.

00:11:12.000 So it's not like outlandish for Bisping to say that.

00:11:15.000 The one time out of competition testing, he got caught.

00:11:18.000 Who the fuck knows, man?

00:11:20.000 What's hilarious is when you look at his trainer.

00:11:22.000 And you go, um, what?

00:11:25.000 Purple man.

00:11:26.000 That guy's 70. I think he's in his 60s.

00:11:30.000 I think he might be like 65, 66 years old or something like that.

00:11:34.000 He's got dick veins at the side of his neck.

00:11:35.000 He's got more muscle than all of us together.

00:11:37.000 If we packed all of our muscle together...

00:11:39.000 Easily.

00:11:39.000 He looks like a cluster of horse cocks with feet so big.

00:11:43.000 He's so big.

00:11:44.000 So he's not natural.

00:11:46.000 Okay, so if he's not natural, then Anderson knows about steroids.

00:11:49.000 He's heard of them.

00:11:50.000 He's familiar with them.

00:11:51.000 The guy who's teaching him how to lift weights and running him through his strength and conditioning program is obviously going through it.

00:11:55.000 Oh, hey bro, I got this stuff.

00:11:56.000 Ten years later.

00:11:58.000 Yeah.

00:11:59.000 Oh, you know, all these years you've been fighting, this is stuff that I do.

00:12:03.000 It's probably not interesting for you.

00:12:05.000 For recovery.

00:12:05.000 But it makes you a super person.

00:12:09.000 I know you're in a sport that's like, if your body moves better, you don't get brain damage, but that's not important.

00:12:16.000 This testing is super effective, isn't it?

00:12:19.000 Dude, Jeff Novitski is a motherfucker, and he's not playing games.

00:12:24.000 He's trying to catch dudes.

00:12:26.000 He's showing up at your house at 6 o'clock in the morning, and he's taking your piss.

00:12:29.000 That's his goal, too.

00:12:29.000 He's taking your blood.

00:12:30.000 They got me the other day before I came up here, or no, when I went to do Daniele Bolelli's podcast.

00:12:35.000 And they called me as I'm ten minutes away, five minutes away.

00:12:39.000 Where are you?

00:12:40.000 I'm in LA. I was like, well, you're at my gym.

00:12:43.000 Just wait for me.

00:12:44.000 I'll come back after the show.

00:12:45.000 No, no, no.

00:12:45.000 We're coming to you, bitch.

00:12:47.000 The bloodhound song.

00:12:47.000 And they fucking drove up.

00:12:49.000 To Daniele's house?

00:12:50.000 Yeah.

00:12:50.000 No, to where he does his podcast.

00:12:52.000 Wow.

00:12:53.000 They watched me do the podcast after they tested me.

00:12:57.000 Super nice people, very professional, but they're not playing games.

00:13:02.000 They're testing for everything?

00:13:04.000 They test for weed and everything?

00:13:05.000 Everything.

00:13:06.000 Yeah, but weed doesn't matter out of competition.

00:13:08.000 Out of competition, it doesn't matter.

00:13:10.000 So let me ask you this.

00:13:11.000 Nor does Coke, by the way.

00:13:12.000 That was the Jon Jones situation.

00:13:13.000 Have fun, boys.

00:13:14.000 So let me ask you this.

00:13:15.000 If Nate Diaz, short-notice fight...

00:13:19.000 Let's take the word if out.

00:13:21.000 Because I know what you're going to say.

00:13:23.000 So let's say he's smoking weed, he beats Connor.

00:13:25.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

00:13:27.000 Then he gets flags.

00:13:28.000 It's a DQ, right?

00:13:29.000 It'd be a no contest.

00:13:30.000 If I smoked weed today, the fight is in two days, or three days, right?

00:13:37.000 If I smoked weed today, and the day of the fight, I ask them, would you test me?

00:13:41.000 I want to find out what the levels are.

00:13:44.000 I think I'd be okay.

00:13:46.000 I think you literally have to get high the day before or the day of with the new parameters.

00:13:53.000 Oh, really?

00:13:53.000 Yeah.

00:13:53.000 Well, that's good then.

00:13:54.000 Yeah.

00:13:55.000 It's way different.

00:13:56.000 It's way different.

00:13:57.000 It's way different than it used to be.

00:13:59.000 So you have to, it's not like trace.

00:14:01.000 They used to have trace amounts of THC. But I really believe that if I smoke weed today and I asked them to test me on Saturday, I'd be okay.

00:14:07.000 Yeah, let's not smoke the day of the fight though, huh?

00:14:10.000 Well, Nick Diaz, apparently when he fought Gomi, was tested so high that this motherfucker had to be high as FUCK when he fought Gomi.

00:14:20.000 That's insane.

00:14:21.000 Just went out there.

00:14:22.000 Who pulls off a go-go fucking platter in MMA, too?

00:14:24.000 It was amazing.

00:14:25.000 Beautiful.

00:14:26.000 And after he got his cheek broken, he got hit with a bomb by Gomi.

00:14:31.000 When can Nick fight again?

00:14:33.000 About nine months?

00:14:34.000 Bisping wants that fight.

00:14:35.000 They changed it around.

00:14:37.000 It was supposed to be five years and they made it at like a year and a half, I think.

00:14:41.000 Is that what they made it?

00:14:42.000 I think they made it 16 months.

00:14:43.000 Way shorter, yeah.

00:14:44.000 You know what would be an interesting fight?

00:14:46.000 Only because they fought before and Nick won.

00:14:49.000 I'm surprised Nick isn't calling Robbie Lawler out.

00:14:51.000 Well, I don't think Nick's calling out anybody.

00:14:54.000 Nick's just chilling out and waiting for all this bullshit to settle.

00:14:56.000 He got fucking railroaded, man, because Nick passed two WADA tests.

00:15:01.000 The really deep, comprehensive blood screens that they use for the Olympics.

00:15:06.000 He passed those with flying colors.

00:15:08.000 What he didn't pass is some bullshit-ass Quest Diagnostics Lab test that the fucking Nevada State Athletic Commission uses.

00:15:16.000 Super shady.

00:15:17.000 And these assholes wouldn't even pay attention to the other two tests And they tried to ban him for five years.

00:15:24.000 That's insane, man.

00:15:25.000 Yeah, they're assholes, man.

00:15:27.000 Vanderlei's silver thing is another example.

00:15:28.000 Assholes.

00:15:29.000 They're assholes.

00:15:30.000 What they did to Vanderlei, banned him for life.

00:15:32.000 Vanderlei just signed with Bellator.

00:15:33.000 Yep.

00:15:34.000 Did he sign with Bellator?

00:15:35.000 Yes, he did.

00:15:35.000 Today?

00:15:36.000 Is it breaking news or some shit?

00:15:37.000 Yes, he did.

00:15:38.000 Damn, I didn't know that.

00:15:39.000 But here's the deal.

00:15:40.000 We talked about this in the last podcast.

00:15:42.000 Kimbo Wanderlei Silva?

00:15:44.000 Well, Wanderlei has to fight Fedor first.

00:15:46.000 He's going to fight Fedor first.

00:15:47.000 That's the big fight.

00:15:48.000 In Japan or whatever.

00:15:48.000 In Japan.

00:15:49.000 But having that fight in Japan could throw his whole Bellator deal in jeopardy because he's going to have to fight on Indian casinos.

00:15:56.000 Once he fights, which at Wanderlei's age is probably not the worst thing in the world anyway, because...

00:16:02.000 Let's go ahead and juice up.

00:16:03.000 There's some certain guys...

00:16:04.000 Bobby Lashley...

00:16:07.000 There's certain guys that only fight in certain places, and they look ridiculously muscular.

00:16:12.000 Now, I don't know exactly how everything works.

00:16:16.000 Peter Belfort, Brazil.

00:16:18.000 But I know that...

00:16:19.000 Well, that's even more shit.

00:16:21.000 That's even more weird.

00:16:21.000 Hector Lombard, Australia.

00:16:22.000 Only, please.

00:16:23.000 The thing is...

00:16:27.000 They don't have a Jeff Nowitzki at Bellator.

00:16:29.000 They don't have a fucking hawk.

00:16:31.000 Nor do they want one.

00:16:32.000 No, they don't want one.

00:16:33.000 You don't want one.

00:16:34.000 But aren't you dealing with a commission?

00:16:35.000 I don't want one.

00:16:36.000 I'll tell the UFC, what are we trying to do?

00:16:38.000 What are you trying to do?

00:16:39.000 Hey, how dare you?

00:16:40.000 Let's fucking move on with our lives.

00:16:41.000 You know what the fuck you guys are doing?

00:16:42.000 But you're dealing with a commission, right?

00:16:43.000 Let's move on!

00:16:44.000 You're dealing with a commission.

00:16:45.000 Commission's easy.

00:16:46.000 Oh.

00:16:46.000 The UFC enforced this, not the commission.

00:16:49.000 Yeah, this is the UFC's idea.

00:16:50.000 Look, the commission, look, it's a famous line that someone made up, I don't know who it was, but they said that passing one of those urine tests is an intelligence test, it's not a drug test.

00:16:59.000 Correct.

00:17:00.000 It might have been Victor Conte.

00:17:01.000 It might have been Victor Conte.

00:17:02.000 But, you know, who's the Balco guy.

00:17:05.000 Oh, yeah.

00:17:05.000 If anybody fucking knows, he knows.

00:17:07.000 So, I think Vandelay...

00:17:10.000 Well, first of all, I think they should fucking...

00:17:12.000 Vandelay's suspension should be exactly as long as it would have been if he got popped, which I think is nine months at the time.

00:17:18.000 Was it?

00:17:19.000 Was it back then when he got caught?

00:17:20.000 Was it nine months back then?

00:17:21.000 Back then it was nine months, yeah, if you tested positive.

00:17:23.000 Fucking nine months.

00:17:24.000 So he's good.

00:17:24.000 He should be done.

00:17:25.000 His suspension should be over.

00:17:27.000 Fine him a little bit and let's move on, man.

00:17:29.000 The guy never tested positive once.

00:17:32.000 He never tested positive once?

00:17:33.000 Never!

00:17:34.000 Wow.

00:17:35.000 Vanderlei probably definitely did something.

00:17:37.000 I mean, you look at when he was fighting in Japan, but Japan didn't have tests.

00:17:41.000 Or if they did have tests, they didn't care.

00:17:44.000 This is coming straight from Ensign Inouye, who said it was on his contract that said, we will not test you for steroids.

00:17:52.000 And Ensign...

00:17:53.000 Ensign is incapable of lying.

00:17:55.000 He does not lie.

00:17:57.000 Chuck Liddell talked about it.

00:17:58.000 He said he took a piss test and was like walking around.

00:18:01.000 They're like, uh, just put it on the back there.

00:18:03.000 Just throw it in the toilet.

00:18:04.000 He was like, I'm not going to set it on the table.

00:18:06.000 There's no one around.

00:18:06.000 Like, just wherever then.

00:18:08.000 He's like, all right.

00:18:09.000 They just want to check it out.

00:18:10.000 Here's a Sharpie.

00:18:11.000 Draw your name on it.

00:18:12.000 Don't spill, please.

00:18:13.000 Just write negative on it.

00:18:15.000 Just put whatever you want, man.

00:18:16.000 Put whatever you want.

00:18:18.000 Write healthy.

00:18:20.000 Either way, awesome to watch.

00:18:22.000 Do not drink.

00:18:24.000 That's all.

00:18:25.000 You came back, do not drink.

00:18:26.000 But, you know, man, everybody knew.

00:18:29.000 You know, if you have a league where everybody knows that everybody else is doing whatever the fuck they want, that's a different thing.

00:18:35.000 It's not really cheating, because it's not illegal over there.

00:18:38.000 It's not the same thing as over here.

00:18:40.000 You just can't do that and be a legit sport, you know?

00:18:44.000 You just can't.

00:18:46.000 Baseball, football.

00:18:47.000 Powerlifting.

00:18:49.000 Excuse me?

00:18:50.000 Powerlifting.

00:18:51.000 I didn't hear you.

00:18:53.000 I'm going to get so much hate for this.

00:18:54.000 I'm talking about a mainstream sport, bro.

00:18:56.000 Don't ever, ever, ever compare powerlifting?

00:19:01.000 Because you look at NBA, strict drug testing, NFL, MLB, now it's super strict.

00:19:06.000 There's fucking no home runs anymore.

00:19:08.000 What would people look like if bodybuilding and powerlifting, if 100% it was legit, across the board, no steroids whatsoever, knocking on your door every morning at 4 a.m.

00:19:20.000 They would all look like Callum.

00:19:21.000 Look at the 60s.

00:19:22.000 They would all look like Callum in Speedos.

00:19:25.000 No one would pay attention.

00:19:26.000 Right.

00:19:27.000 Look at the 60s.

00:19:28.000 In the 60s, bodybuilders and powerlifters, their legs, especially the bodybuilders, their legs are actually kind of small.

00:19:34.000 No, they look good.

00:19:35.000 They look like normal.

00:19:36.000 They look healthy.

00:19:37.000 They just all do this, and they're in their high-waisted tights, and they're just hot.

00:19:41.000 There's certain guys from the bodybuilding era of Schwarzenegger, that to this day, they look small but yoked as fuck, like Frank Zane.

00:19:50.000 Frank Zane never looked like Lee Haney or Dorian Yates or any of those freaks.

00:19:55.000 Ronnie Coleman was what, 320, all muscle?

00:19:59.000 There was a guy- And only like 5'9", right?

00:20:01.000 It's insane!

00:20:02.000 Isn't Ronnie Coleman fairly short?

00:20:03.000 I thought Ronnie Coleman was like 6-something.

00:20:05.000 Oh, he's a big guy.

00:20:06.000 6'2", 6'3".

00:20:07.000 Which one is really short?

00:20:09.000 Dorian Yates, I thought.

00:20:10.000 Is Dorian?

00:20:10.000 Pretty sure.

00:20:11.000 But back in the day, like before they started doing a lot of steroids, like, well, who did Pumping Iron Gaines?

00:20:16.000 The guy's last name is Gaines, and I knew him and I spoke to him.

00:20:19.000 He said there was a black guy featured in Pumping Iron, and I can't remember his name, but- Albert Beckles?

00:20:26.000 Really muscular guy.

00:20:28.000 Older guy?

00:20:28.000 Yeah, he was eating 20 pounds of red meat a day.

00:20:33.000 What?

00:20:33.000 And that's how he was getting...

00:20:35.000 He was like, lions eat a lot of meat, so he was eating 20 pounds of...

00:20:38.000 That's that bro science stuff.

00:20:40.000 Lions?

00:20:40.000 God damn it.

00:20:41.000 Literally the other body...

00:20:43.000 He was shredded, though.

00:20:44.000 He was shredded.

00:20:45.000 Yeah, but you're not a lion, are you?

00:20:46.000 Right.

00:20:49.000 The other bodybuilders were like, what?

00:20:50.000 He would eat rice?

00:20:51.000 This guy's awesome.

00:20:52.000 I guess a large quantity of rice and 20 pounds of red meat a day.

00:20:56.000 Somebody needs to tell him that gorillas only eat broccoli.

00:20:58.000 Yeah, right?

00:20:58.000 Right?

00:20:59.000 All they eat is fucking go to the zoo.

00:21:00.000 They're eating stalks of broccoli and bamboo shoots.

00:21:03.000 But their dicks are this big.

00:21:04.000 That's true.

00:21:05.000 That's true.

00:21:06.000 He was shredded in the...

00:21:07.000 Did you see his dick?

00:21:09.000 How big was it?

00:21:09.000 Was it meat?

00:21:10.000 We dated for a little while.

00:21:11.000 It wasn't big, but it was tasty.

00:21:12.000 It was tasty.

00:21:16.000 Those were the days because it was Arnold and Venice Beach, Gold's Gym, bitches everywhere, smoking weed, slinging dick.

00:21:24.000 Franco Columbo was in my friend's acting class.

00:21:26.000 That's right.

00:21:26.000 Franco Columbo was super short.

00:21:28.000 Yeah.

00:21:29.000 That Franco Columbo used to be able to take one of those hot water bottles and his lungs were so strong they would make it explode.

00:21:34.000 He would blow into it until it blew up.

00:21:37.000 A fucking hot water bottle.

00:21:38.000 One of those rubber things, a thick rubber.

00:21:40.000 He would...

00:21:46.000 Boom!

00:21:47.000 Nobody else could do it.

00:21:48.000 Very few people could do it.

00:21:49.000 They'd be like, what in the fuck?

00:21:51.000 He'd do dips.

00:21:52.000 He would do dips with two dudes hanging off his waist.

00:21:57.000 And he would do dips.

00:21:59.000 Let's grab some weights.

00:22:00.000 How about what he looks like today?

00:22:01.000 Remember Platts?

00:22:03.000 Yes, Tom Platts.

00:22:04.000 You can see it on YouTube.

00:22:06.000 He's squats.

00:22:07.000 He deep squats 500 pounds.

00:22:09.000 I think it was 25 times.

00:22:11.000 Dude, those guys were doing it back then, though.

00:22:14.000 Roids, lifting weights, hanging out on the beach, Venice, smoking weed.

00:22:19.000 Banging chicks.

00:22:20.000 Tons of chicks.

00:22:21.000 Letting guys blow them so they have money for steroids.

00:22:23.000 Good chance.

00:22:23.000 Good chance Arnold was sucking weed in his dick.

00:22:26.000 Something was going on.

00:22:27.000 That was a big thing with those bodybuilders.

00:22:30.000 A big thing.

00:22:31.000 They're the original sugar babies.

00:22:34.000 I'm dead serious, man.

00:22:35.000 Sugar baby is such a great word.

00:22:37.000 Isn't it such a good word?

00:22:38.000 A sugar baby?

00:22:40.000 Bodybuilders are the original sugar baby.

00:22:42.000 Well, you got to do what you got to do.

00:22:43.000 You ain't just going to lift and pay the bills.

00:22:45.000 Be small or suck a dick.

00:22:46.000 You got two options.

00:22:48.000 You want muscle, son?

00:22:49.000 Come here.

00:22:49.000 Come on.

00:22:50.000 You want to hang out with your boys on the beach?

00:22:51.000 You better suck this dick.

00:22:52.000 Imagine if steroids didn't work, but sucking dick did.

00:22:56.000 Everyone would be so swole.

00:22:57.000 The only way to get swole, you gotta suck a dick.

00:22:59.000 Callum would be the biggest motherfucker in the room.

00:23:00.000 You're damn right.

00:23:01.000 They would change what's gay.

00:23:03.000 They would change it.

00:23:05.000 I'm not gay because I like dicks.

00:23:07.000 I'm just trying to get big.

00:23:07.000 No, bro.

00:23:08.000 I'm just trying to blow up.

00:23:09.000 Trying to get big.

00:23:09.000 Trying to get big, man.

00:23:10.000 Do you remember when guys would take brewer's yeast back in the day?

00:23:14.000 Do you remember that?

00:23:14.000 Oh, dude.

00:23:15.000 I knew guys who would just always lift and they'd go, check this out.

00:23:18.000 Why would they take brewer's yeast?

00:23:20.000 I don't know.

00:23:20.000 Apparently brewer's yeast makes you bigger or something.

00:23:23.000 That's that old school.

00:23:24.000 That's super old school.

00:23:24.000 They'd sell it in pill form.

00:23:25.000 You don't remember that?

00:23:26.000 No, not at all.

00:23:28.000 When steroids hit, they didn't think it was as bad as it was, right?

00:23:34.000 Lyle Alzado was kind of the first one who was like, oh, I'm going to die because I use steroids.

00:23:38.000 But before it wasn't a big deal.

00:23:39.000 It was kind of like cigarettes, right?

00:23:41.000 See, Lyle Alzado, I don't think it was because of that.

00:23:44.000 I think what Lyle Alzado was doing, he was doing an early form of human growth hormone.

00:23:49.000 I might be off base here.

00:23:50.000 Jamie won't look this up real quick.

00:23:51.000 I'm just saying Alzado was the first to say though.

00:23:54.000 But the early form of human growth hormone was taken from cadavers.

00:23:57.000 It wasn't made in a lab with bacteria, the way they make growth hormone today.

00:24:03.000 In the early form of human growth hormone, you would take it and there was like crazy adverse side effects.

00:24:10.000 Like, people who got really fucked up from it.

00:24:12.000 They get leukemia and all kinds of stuff.

00:24:13.000 Oh, yeah.

00:24:13.000 You can get fucking Jacob Crooksfeld.

00:24:14.000 You can get mad cow disease from it.

00:24:16.000 Jesus.

00:24:17.000 You can get prions from it.

00:24:18.000 You can get all kinds of crazy shit.

00:24:19.000 I think Alvedo was saying that he was dying because of that, and then scientists came out and were like, nah, son.

00:24:24.000 I don't think it...

00:24:24.000 You had a brain tumor.

00:24:26.000 That's what it was.

00:24:26.000 Well, you know, you also got to deal with the massive amount of trauma that guy took to the head.

00:24:31.000 Played football for 30 years.

00:24:33.000 Just bang, bang, bang.

00:24:36.000 Maniac.

00:24:36.000 I mean, who knows?

00:24:37.000 There's all sorts of bad things that happen to your brain when you play football for 30 years.

00:24:41.000 I mean...

00:24:42.000 Especially the way he did.

00:24:43.000 Yeah, football back then was different.

00:24:45.000 Who knows why?

00:24:46.000 Kind of.

00:24:46.000 Why he got brain...

00:24:47.000 But here's the thing.

00:24:48.000 Not a lot of other guys that were doing what he did got brain tumors.

00:24:51.000 So it could have been completely unrelated.

00:24:54.000 Because don't they say human growth hormone, from what I understand, is...

00:24:57.000 So it's going to help grow everything that's good, but also if you have a tumor, it's going to help grow that.

00:25:01.000 It could.

00:25:02.000 It's potentially...

00:25:03.000 That is potentially a side effect.

00:25:05.000 Mm-hmm.

00:25:05.000 You know, that's why one of the things they say that's really important, and if you do do that, you gotta get yourself scanned.

00:25:11.000 And if you're doing it like the way those guys are doing it, where you're taking like 10 units a day, you know, they're taking massive amounts.

00:25:16.000 That's why the bodybuilders show big, and they have those power guts, where they have abs, but it's guts.

00:25:22.000 Yeah.

00:25:24.000 Yeah, man.

00:25:24.000 Yeah.

00:25:25.000 Well, it's like these bulging muscles, too.

00:25:29.000 That's the other thing.

00:25:30.000 Like, if you have those gigantic, like, Lee Haney ab muscles, you've got to think of his whole body.

00:25:36.000 Everything's giant.

00:25:37.000 Everything's giant.

00:25:38.000 So his ab muscles are giant, too.

00:25:40.000 They stick out.

00:25:41.000 Also because they're huge.

00:25:43.000 And his organs are growing, too.

00:25:44.000 Is it growing your dick?

00:25:46.000 Apparently, if you do take massive amounts for long periods of time, it can grow your organs larger.

00:25:53.000 But I think what we're looking at and where you're looking at those guys, a lot of it is just massive muscle.

00:25:58.000 I agree.

00:25:59.000 It's more muscle than we've ever seen.

00:26:01.000 Because you look at Arnold.

00:26:01.000 Even Arnold's like, it's a different game, man.

00:26:03.000 When I was doing it, it was basically just steroids.

00:26:06.000 And now they're doing all these designer drugs.

00:26:09.000 They sweat non-stop.

00:26:10.000 I don't know if you've hung out with a current bodybuilder.

00:26:12.000 They sweat non-stop.

00:26:14.000 Because their bodies are constantly like, fuck, man.

00:26:16.000 Straight up dying.

00:26:17.000 They're always dying.

00:26:18.000 Straight up dying.

00:26:19.000 So that's Dorian and Lee Haney together.

00:26:20.000 Dorian Yates was very tall from what I understand, wasn't he?

00:26:24.000 Well, if Lee Haney's six feet tall, it looks like Dorian's somewhere in the same mane.

00:26:29.000 He's an orange lion.

00:26:32.000 Glorious mane.

00:26:33.000 He's Donald Trump.

00:26:34.000 He looks like Donald Trump.

00:26:35.000 Dude, isn't it weird how they turn bronze?

00:26:38.000 Because black guys, right?

00:26:39.000 They're like, fuck, you can see every muscle.

00:26:41.000 So a white dude's like, dude, we gotta get black.

00:26:43.000 It's the original chocolate face.

00:26:46.000 Some guys get really dark.

00:26:47.000 Yeah, they'll have a white face and then paint the rest of them so dark.

00:26:51.000 Black.

00:26:52.000 They're straight black.

00:26:53.000 Yeah, like Jamaican.

00:26:54.000 Yeah, because they've got to compete with the black guys.

00:26:56.000 Yeah, just to show contrast, to show the muscles.

00:26:59.000 Dude, black guys own bodybuilding now.

00:27:01.000 Do they own it now?

00:27:02.000 Phil Heath, five-time Mr. Olympia champion.

00:27:04.000 Before that, well, it was Jake Cutler, but then you had Ronnie Coleman for all those years.

00:27:08.000 Dexter Jackson.

00:27:09.000 I don't know how long you could do that for, to take that much steroids at that high a level.

00:27:14.000 How long can you do that?

00:27:15.000 What's the most?

00:27:15.000 Eight?

00:27:16.000 I think eight is the most.

00:27:17.000 No, six, I think, right?

00:27:19.000 How long did Arnie do it?

00:27:20.000 How many years did Arnie win?

00:27:22.000 Not long, because Arnie was doing it right, and then he just blew the fuck up and went full celebrity.

00:27:27.000 He was like, you know what?

00:27:28.000 I'm going to quit fucking lifting weights with you, meet him, and go make some money.

00:27:31.000 Phil Heath wants to get 10 titles and then quit.

00:27:36.000 That sounds like a good number.

00:27:38.000 The problem with those guys is what do they do when it's over?

00:27:40.000 They showed some of the guys from the old days that are still alive today and they get off the sauce and their body is just depressed.

00:27:50.000 Wouldn't they have to keep doing it to fill the gap in?

00:27:54.000 They're going to have to do something, some form of testosterone, but the kidneys is from the weight cutting.

00:27:58.000 You know what it is?

00:27:59.000 Yeah, the kidneys is not from steroids.

00:28:01.000 The kidneys is from the massive dehydration.

00:28:04.000 When you see those guys when they're standing on that scale or on that stage and they're posing, they're down to like 3% body fat.

00:28:11.000 They're close to death.

00:28:12.000 Close to death.

00:28:13.000 No carbs.

00:28:13.000 No water.

00:28:14.000 No carbs.

00:28:15.000 Their bodies are just like shrugged.

00:28:18.000 If you try and talk to one when they're getting ready for that, their brain barely functions because they're just so depleted.

00:28:24.000 Yeah, they know how to do this.

00:28:25.000 It's so dangerous, man.

00:28:26.000 So dangerous.

00:28:27.000 Well, now they manipulate their insulin, too.

00:28:29.000 They do all kinds of weird stuff.

00:28:31.000 Yes, that's dangerous.

00:28:32.000 Did you see the new pumping iron?

00:28:34.000 No.

00:28:35.000 Oh, it's good.

00:28:36.000 Generation Iron?

00:28:36.000 Yeah.

00:28:37.000 Generation Iron.

00:28:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:38.000 Netflix?

00:28:40.000 I'm sure.

00:28:41.000 Yep, with Kai Greene.

00:28:43.000 Kai Greene.

00:28:44.000 Kai Greene, who's a giant...

00:28:45.000 He's a giant gay bodybuilder.

00:28:48.000 No, no, no.

00:28:48.000 He's not gay.

00:28:49.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:28:49.000 Whoa, bro.

00:28:50.000 Civ, how dare you?

00:28:51.000 Sorry.

00:28:52.000 Kai Greene is a guy...

00:28:53.000 Why are you throwing that away?

00:28:54.000 When we're talking gay for pay, the reason he doesn't win is there's videos out there of him fucking grapefruits for money.

00:29:00.000 Right.

00:29:01.000 It might be a cantaloupe, but he's doing some gay stuff.

00:29:04.000 He's stripping for men, and it's all over the internet.

00:29:06.000 He also did gay porn.

00:29:12.000 He's awesome.

00:29:14.000 He puts on a mask, a doll mask, and poses in subways.

00:29:16.000 He comes in second to Phil Heath every year.

00:29:19.000 One of the reasons why he doesn't win is because he has this history of doing some promiscuous stuff with men.

00:29:26.000 There's a video of him stripping and shoves his dick in front of the guy's face.

00:29:30.000 Yeah, I guess so, man.

00:29:31.000 If they let him compete, they should let him win.

00:29:33.000 That's why the gays never win.

00:29:34.000 Well, he comes in second.

00:29:35.000 That's rude.

00:29:36.000 Look at his hair.

00:29:37.000 That bun in the back of his head is adorable.

00:29:39.000 He's amazing.

00:29:40.000 Maybe that's the offensive part they don't like, is the hair.

00:29:42.000 Yeah, it's the bun.

00:29:43.000 Oh, look at this.

00:29:45.000 What's going on there, guys?

00:29:46.000 I agree, and they're big rivals, by the way.

00:29:48.000 And Phil Heath.

00:29:48.000 Boy, they are both enormous.

00:29:50.000 You know, here's the problem.

00:29:51.000 When it gets down to this, like these two guys, how the fuck do you decide who wins?

00:29:56.000 How could you even tell?

00:29:57.000 Do you tell?

00:29:59.000 Can you tell?

00:30:00.000 Well, you can because you're a good wine connoisseur.

00:30:03.000 It's like the same thing.

00:30:04.000 It's symmetry.

00:30:05.000 How do you know a great glass of wine?

00:30:08.000 The tannins and the oaky flavor.

00:30:10.000 It's a feeling.

00:30:11.000 It's a feeling I have.

00:30:12.000 I don't get how they do it either.

00:30:13.000 I don't get it.

00:30:14.000 It's symmetry.

00:30:14.000 You're looking at...

00:30:15.000 Muscle development, but you're also looking at symmetry.

00:30:18.000 Yeah, but they all look like that.

00:30:20.000 But these two guys, they're in different stages of the pose.

00:30:23.000 Like the guy on the left, his arms are further apart.

00:30:26.000 No, not much.

00:30:27.000 Yeah, but one chose that pose and the other chose...

00:30:29.000 See, Phil, he...

00:30:30.000 No, they do side-by-side poses.

00:30:32.000 Right, but see how Kai Greene forgot about his legs.

00:30:34.000 Phil said, I'm going to open my legs a little bit.

00:30:37.000 Look at the leg muscular.

00:30:39.000 Look at that.

00:30:40.000 It's perfect.

00:30:41.000 It's insane.

00:30:41.000 He's perfectly proportional.

00:30:43.000 You know Phil played basketball in college and was 178 pounds, point guard.

00:30:49.000 And he's got to be like 300 pounds.

00:30:50.000 Good buddy of mine, man, from Denver, yeah.

00:30:53.000 You know him?

00:30:53.000 Yeah, really well.

00:30:54.000 How long is he going to do this for?

00:30:56.000 He said he wants 10 times.

00:30:58.000 Yeah, this is his fifth, he wants 10. So five more years, and his body's like, Jesus Christ.

00:31:04.000 Making that cheddar, though.

00:31:06.000 Is he making cheddar?

00:31:06.000 For real?

00:31:07.000 Yeah, seven figures a year.

00:31:09.000 How do they do that?

00:31:09.000 How do they make that money?

00:31:11.000 Yeah, so he'll go to England.

00:31:13.000 He'll do all these big pro-ams, you know?

00:31:16.000 Who knows?

00:31:18.000 He'll do all these big pro-ams and get paid bank.

00:31:21.000 Like, over in Europe and the Middle East, bodybuilding's huge.

00:31:25.000 Europe?

00:31:26.000 Yeah, huge.

00:31:26.000 Way bigger than it is here.

00:31:28.000 You got $250,000 to win.

00:31:31.000 $400.

00:31:32.000 But then in sponsors, he's making six, seven figures a year.

00:31:35.000 He's got his own line, too.

00:31:36.000 It's interesting how much it jumped up for 2015. It went from $250 to $275 to $400.

00:31:42.000 He's also got his own line.

00:31:44.000 He's got his own supplement line that I think does pretty well.

00:31:47.000 Yeah, called Gifted Nutrition, but I don't think it's...

00:31:50.000 He's not making his money off that.

00:31:52.000 He's making his money doing these touring.

00:31:53.000 He gets on with Olympia, and literally two days later, he's flying to the Middle East, flying to England.

00:31:58.000 He said he's gone 300 days a year.

00:32:00.000 He's always traveling.

00:32:00.000 Yeah, nuts.

00:32:01.000 Well, seminars are a big way for a lot of athletes to make money, including MMA guys.

00:32:05.000 A lot of guys make a lot of their money.

00:32:07.000 A lot of jujitsu guys make a lot of their money.

00:32:08.000 Especially jujitsu.

00:32:09.000 Yeah, especially jujitsu.

00:32:10.000 Jujitsu is huge.

00:32:11.000 And jujitsu is one of the few seminars where you could really get something out of it.

00:32:14.000 I agree.

00:32:14.000 You know, if you go to see a Muay Thai seminar, you might learn a little bit.

00:32:19.000 Good luck.

00:32:19.000 I mean, you could, but a lot of people know a lot about Muay Thai.

00:32:22.000 Muay Thai is like repetition, knowledge, sparring, great coaching over long periods of time.

00:32:27.000 But jiu-jitsu, a guy could show you one technique and you could tap a guy with it the next week.

00:32:31.000 A different setup or something?

00:32:33.000 Yeah.

00:32:33.000 Yeah, it's priceless, man.

00:32:34.000 One eye-opening thing.

00:32:35.000 You're like, ooh.

00:32:36.000 I was watching your boy Cyborg roll.

00:32:39.000 He was doing some drills the other day.

00:32:41.000 Goddamn, that guy flows.

00:32:43.000 Freak, man.

00:32:44.000 Woo!

00:32:45.000 He was doing this roll from controlling on top, side control, to the truck, to the back, to taking a collar choke from behind.

00:32:55.000 It's crazy how he moves.

00:32:56.000 Oh my god.

00:32:57.000 He's doing Eddie's imitation, is that right?

00:32:59.000 I think he's doing Super Fight.

00:33:00.000 Jesus Christ, I hope he is.

00:33:02.000 I hope he is.

00:33:05.000 I'm pretty sure he's doing a super fight.

00:33:06.000 Well, that whole Eddie Bravo invitational when they're going to do the open weight, like anybody can compete, the absolute, that's going to be amazing.

00:33:14.000 It's going to be nuts.

00:33:15.000 Oh my god.

00:33:15.000 I know Onnit's doing one of 165 and under at the Onnit Academy.

00:33:20.000 In Austin, yeah.

00:33:20.000 Yeah, March 24th.

00:33:23.000 Cal and I are doing the play-by-play for that.

00:33:24.000 Are you really?

00:33:25.000 With a jiu-jitsu guy.

00:33:26.000 I was going to say, hopefully, because I'm going to be like...

00:33:28.000 You could probably do the jiu-jitsu play-by-play.

00:33:30.000 For sure.

00:33:30.000 Who are you guys dealing with?

00:33:31.000 I'm going to have some trouble.

00:33:32.000 He's got him now!

00:33:33.000 Someone who's running the jiu-jitsu thing.

00:33:34.000 Onnit got him.

00:33:35.000 That guy's strong.

00:33:36.000 Do you know who the jiu-jitsu play-by-play guy is?

00:33:38.000 I don't.

00:33:38.000 I asked him.

00:33:40.000 Todd White lives in Onnit.

00:33:41.000 Maybe it would be him.

00:33:43.000 It's going to be fun, though.

00:33:44.000 Fuck yeah.

00:33:45.000 Yeah, jujitsu tournaments of the future.

00:33:47.000 I really think so.

00:33:48.000 And I think one of the cool things about it, too, is that, you know, me can definitely get injured, definitely get, you know, broken bones and stuff, but you can compete in and not worry about head trauma.

00:34:00.000 So I think a lot of people that are interested in martial arts are gravitating towards that because they're realizing now, like, hey, this is probably...

00:34:09.000 There's not a lot of options if you want to learn how to fight where you're not going to get your brain rattled.

00:34:14.000 There's such a debate now, like in Europe especially, about kids playing rugby and any kind of contact sport.

00:34:21.000 Fuck Europe!

00:34:21.000 Look at America!

00:34:22.000 I mean, it's a very real thing where doctors and academics are going, hold on, like, I know it's a great sport, but you are talking about head trauma to your 14-year-old.

00:34:32.000 That's a fact.

00:34:33.000 What that's going to do to him later down the line, we don't know.

00:34:36.000 Dude, America is football.

00:34:37.000 Chances are you'll probably be fine.

00:34:39.000 Well, you're talking about someone who's so young that they don't really understand the repercussions of their current actions.

00:34:45.000 And if you're doing something at 14 that might affect you when you're 44, that's kind of crazy.

00:34:49.000 You know?

00:34:50.000 Yeah, but then yet again, this country has a lot of people that play football and they're fine at 44. So, you know, a lot of people play for four years.

00:34:57.000 Deesh.

00:34:57.000 I don't know about all that.

00:34:58.000 I don't know about that.

00:34:59.000 Yeah, most of those guys are fucked up.

00:35:01.000 They're just fucked up quietly.

00:35:02.000 But not if you played in high school.

00:35:03.000 Not if you played in high school.

00:35:04.000 Dude, a lot of people that they've tested that are high school students have CTE. A lot of them.

00:35:09.000 They're finding more and more.

00:35:10.000 Sure.

00:35:10.000 I'm sure it causes damage, but what I'm saying is that it's not as though...

00:35:14.000 I don't think the epidemic of people who played football...

00:35:18.000 Like if you said, well, most people who played football, even in high school, have brain damage.

00:35:23.000 Right.

00:35:23.000 I bet they do compared to people who didn't.

00:35:25.000 Yeah, not only that, here's the thing that there's things like you can be high-functioning, but you can also have like real impulse problems.

00:35:32.000 Yeah.

00:35:33.000 And a lot of those real impulse problems are created by head trauma.

00:35:35.000 Depression, anger, real lash out, anger issues.

00:35:39.000 As a matter of fact, one of the things that O.J. Simpson's doctor said, that if they were doing that same trial today when he was tried for murder, they would probably bring up CTE. Yeah.

00:35:49.000 But here's the question.

00:35:51.000 If you're going to ban, and it's out there, but if you're going to ban combat sports for kids, you get a lot of benefit from sports that are rough as well, in a way.

00:36:03.000 In how it builds character, or it's just a sport you might be built for, and you're really good at it.

00:36:08.000 So if you're built like a Samoan, maybe soccer isn't going to be as good for you as football.

00:36:14.000 So in a way, you've got to be careful with this stuff.

00:36:16.000 I agree.

00:36:16.000 You need some of this stuff.

00:36:18.000 Well, it's definitely good to toughen people up.

00:36:20.000 It's definitely, I mean, there's no better avenue to teach people discipline and how to be tough than combat sports.

00:36:29.000 I think combat sports is, you know, it's the one thing where you have to figure out how to actually get it done.

00:36:35.000 There's no maybes, there's no close, there's no you either get it done or you don't get it done.

00:36:41.000 Very black and white.

00:36:41.000 No one's helping you?

00:36:42.000 No one's helping you.

00:36:43.000 It's a big thing.

00:36:44.000 By yourself, yeah.

00:36:45.000 You enter into that ring, he's a referee, and that guy's just there to save your life.

00:36:49.000 That's it.

00:36:50.000 And then there's another dude, and he weighs the same as you.

00:36:52.000 Like Taekwondo.

00:36:54.000 Guys get knocked out and kicked and stuff, but you get a lot out of getting better at something, especially when the stakes are high.

00:37:01.000 You certainly do.

00:37:02.000 But I think that if I had to do it all over again, like if I knew what I knew now, and I went back and I was involved in striking sports, I would be way more careful.

00:37:11.000 Way more careful about head kicks.

00:37:14.000 You know, I kind of got lucky and dodged a lot of trauma, but I know a lot of people who didn't.

00:37:19.000 A lot of kickboxers who just fought for nothing.

00:37:23.000 I mean, nothing.

00:37:24.000 I remember I thought it was cool when they'd go 30 seconds left and the whole gym would turn and watch me and Shane Carwin plant our feet and just slug each other in the head.

00:37:32.000 And we'd get done, like, high-five.

00:37:33.000 Then I'd get in my car and throw up.

00:37:35.000 And Shane would call me and go, dude, I forgot where I was going.

00:37:38.000 And at the time, we were like, God, see you tomorrow?

00:37:40.000 See you tomorrow!

00:37:41.000 Meathead Power!

00:37:42.000 You know?

00:37:43.000 Wow!

00:37:44.000 Then we'd get in our cars and do it again the next day.

00:37:46.000 Damn!

00:37:46.000 I remember playing football in college, and there was a play called 96 Power.

00:37:50.000 And they'd go, bring in the shob!

00:37:51.000 Bring in the shob!

00:37:53.000 I'd come in, and it was me versus this giant linebacker named Brian Ewu, who was a second round or third round draft pick.

00:37:58.000 A nightmare.

00:37:59.000 And I'd take a running start, and we'd run into each other.

00:38:02.000 And everyone would wait and stop.

00:38:03.000 That was like my thing.

00:38:05.000 Now I think of it, now I think, hey, man!

00:38:08.000 Hey, man!

00:38:09.000 I'm the front guy if it's the Civil War.

00:38:11.000 I'm the guy in the front, the idiot.

00:38:13.000 Watch this fucking...

00:38:14.000 Ewu sounds Samoan.

00:38:15.000 Was he Samoan?

00:38:16.000 No, he's black as night from Houston, Texas.

00:38:19.000 Close, though.

00:38:20.000 Brian Ewu.

00:38:21.000 It makes you rethink things you've done, obviously, in your past.

00:38:25.000 I look at earlier parts of my career, all of my training.

00:38:29.000 I have a good chin.

00:38:30.000 Granted, I fight, you know, child-sized grown-ups, but...

00:38:33.000 You know, when the Lollipop Guild's attacking you, it's not that big of a deal.

00:38:38.000 The mollipop kill.

00:38:41.000 You learn that...

00:38:42.000 You got fucking Lineker.

00:38:44.000 Lineker hits hard.

00:38:45.000 He hits hard.

00:38:45.000 He hits fucking hard.

00:38:47.000 And I remember everything in the ring going wonky, like back and forth.

00:38:52.000 Fuck, don't attack me right now.

00:38:53.000 That hurt.

00:38:55.000 I've been hit a lot.

00:38:56.000 I put myself in the hospital snowboarding, hitting my head, you know, I've...

00:39:00.000 I definitely have some brain damage.

00:39:02.000 I wouldn't trade it, though.

00:39:03.000 Yeah, I wouldn't trade it for the world.

00:39:04.000 I would train different, though.

00:39:05.000 Exactly.

00:39:06.000 You guys are both okay right now.

00:39:09.000 Like, you're not Muhammad Ali.

00:39:10.000 You're not Joe Frazier in his later years.

00:39:13.000 We'll see in the later years.

00:39:14.000 Well, I think by the time you get old, they're going to have some shit worked out.

00:39:17.000 They're going to stick a fucking syringe in your brain, squirt some stem cells in there, and you're going to be good to go.

00:39:22.000 I hope so.

00:39:22.000 I'm pretty sure.

00:39:23.000 I'm pretty sure.

00:39:24.000 They're getting real close.

00:39:26.000 I mean, they're getting real close to re-engineering the entire human frame.

00:39:29.000 They're getting so close.

00:39:30.000 Every day, they move one step closer.

00:39:32.000 Within 20, 30 years, they're going to have some cures for all kinds of shit.

00:39:37.000 The problem is when you're already, like, at Muhammad Ali's stage or Freddie Roach.

00:39:40.000 Game over.

00:39:41.000 Yeah, Freddie Roach has functional Parkinson's that's from trauma.

00:39:46.000 And, you know, he's open about it.

00:39:47.000 He was in wars, man.

00:39:49.000 He watched his old fights.

00:39:50.000 God.

00:39:50.000 That's why he stops fights sooner now.

00:39:52.000 Yep.

00:39:52.000 He's smart about that.

00:39:53.000 Because he goes, I wish my coach would have stopped the fight sooner.

00:39:56.000 Yes.

00:39:56.000 So now, what was his last fight with Cody?

00:39:58.000 He's like, I'm going to stop this.

00:39:59.000 You got one more ram and I'm going to stop this.

00:40:01.000 Well, the guy who fought Kovalev, what's his face?

00:40:03.000 The Canadian guy.

00:40:07.000 Oh, Pascal.

00:40:08.000 Yes, Jean-Pascal, who was just getting boxed up.

00:40:12.000 He was doing nothing.

00:40:13.000 Well, he was getting the fuck beat out of him.

00:40:15.000 You know, I think the first fight took a shitload out of him, and that's something that people do not want to admit.

00:40:21.000 When you take the kind of beating that he took in that first fight, and the first fight...

00:40:25.000 Arguably was called a hair soon, but it's a hair.

00:40:30.000 I mean, his argument was that it was called too soon.

00:40:33.000 He's got a great chin.

00:40:34.000 He shouldn't have been able to fight.

00:40:35.000 He tagged him a few times.

00:40:36.000 He could have won that fight.

00:40:37.000 He did tag him a few times, but he didn't tag him a few times in that second fight.

00:40:41.000 That second fight was the Kovalev show.

00:40:43.000 It wasn't even close.

00:40:44.000 Kovalev's a badass.

00:40:44.000 Straight up ass whooping.

00:40:45.000 He's a bad motherfucker.

00:40:46.000 He moves like a snake.

00:40:48.000 He's a murderer.

00:40:49.000 He hits so hard.

00:40:50.000 He's in and out.

00:40:51.000 He's fluid.

00:40:51.000 And you know what he likes to do for strength and conditioning?

00:40:54.000 Pilates.

00:40:54.000 Don't tell me a movement coach.

00:40:56.000 Oh, gotcha.

00:40:56.000 Pilates.

00:40:57.000 He does a lot of Pilates.

00:40:58.000 All the hot ass in there.

00:41:00.000 He's trying to sling dick.

00:41:01.000 He has a white...

00:41:02.000 If you look at his body, the fact that he hits that hard...

00:41:05.000 I don't know how he hits that hard.

00:41:07.000 It's perfect technique.

00:41:08.000 Long limbs.

00:41:09.000 Been doing it forever.

00:41:10.000 His body is like...

00:41:11.000 The body is one thing, but the skeleton is the big thing.

00:41:14.000 Skeleton is a giant part of how a guy can punch.

00:41:17.000 The size of the hands, the shape of the shoulders, it's a huge, huge factor.

00:41:22.000 Which is what makes Conor so good.

00:41:23.000 Look at Conor's shoulders and hands.

00:41:25.000 His shoulders are, dude, they're huge, man.

00:41:28.000 I think he weighed in at 177, 178 right now.

00:41:32.000 Yeah.

00:41:33.000 He's cut weight to make 170. How about Chuck Liddell?

00:41:37.000 Chuck Liddell, he'd get measured and he'd hold his shoulders in, so it said he was 76 inches.

00:41:43.000 When he's really 79 and he was standing next to you and I was looking at the- Why would he do that?

00:41:47.000 Because he wanted- he didn't want you to know how long his reach was.

00:41:50.000 Because he was a dick?

00:41:51.000 It's obviously as long as fuck.

00:41:53.000 Yeah, Hackleman would tell him to do that.

00:41:55.000 Really?

00:41:55.000 So that it says his reach is 76 and if all of a sudden he comes out with 79 inches and he's jabbing you or whatever he's doing.

00:42:01.000 But you know, I looked at him and how how wide his shoulders were and how big he- he walks around at 230 right now.

00:42:07.000 Big motherfucker.

00:42:08.000 He's been talking crazy shit about Jon Jones.

00:42:10.000 Just wait till he slaps you.

00:42:12.000 Chuck's big hands reaching across the table and wham!

00:42:15.000 You're like, what the fuck?

00:42:17.000 He thinks he would give Jon Jones trouble right now.

00:42:20.000 He's a fighter.

00:42:21.000 He'll do it.

00:42:22.000 You want that out of your fighter.

00:42:24.000 That's this thing in his head.

00:42:26.000 He still hits the bag and he still has power.

00:42:30.000 I think his exact words, if I hit him right now, if I put my hands on him, I'd give him trouble.

00:42:35.000 Yes, he said his style would give John Fritz.

00:42:39.000 Yeah, and he said that John wouldn't be able to out-wrestle him, which is like...

00:42:42.000 It's tough.

00:42:44.000 It's tough.

00:42:45.000 Well, what are you going to say to the guy?

00:42:46.000 The guy's a fucking legend.

00:42:48.000 I can't disrespect the diaspora.

00:42:49.000 He's retired, and he's been in some crazy-ass wars, and it's over.

00:42:54.000 He's earned that right.

00:42:55.000 It's over.

00:42:56.000 He's earned the right to talk some shit.

00:42:57.000 And he can say whatever he wants.

00:42:58.000 Yeah, he's earned the right to talk some shit.

00:43:00.000 And, you know, John had to respond a little bit.

00:43:03.000 Has to.

00:43:04.000 But even the way John responded was actually pretty kind.

00:43:07.000 Yeah.

00:43:07.000 You know, he said maybe if Chuck fought a little smarter, we'd have protected his chin.

00:43:10.000 He also just put, oh, Chuck.

00:43:12.000 Yeah.

00:43:16.000 Classic.

00:43:16.000 That fight's going to be fun.

00:43:18.000 Him and Cormier too?

00:43:19.000 It's going to be very fun.

00:43:20.000 Did you see the photoshops?

00:43:22.000 Yes.

00:43:22.000 So Tyrone Biggums and then what's his name?

00:43:25.000 So funny.

00:43:25.000 The cop from...

00:43:26.000 Super funny.

00:43:27.000 From Die Hard?

00:43:28.000 No, no, that's from Die Hard.

00:43:30.000 The TV show.

00:43:31.000 No, no, that fucking TV show.

00:43:33.000 Urkel?

00:43:33.000 Urkel, yeah.

00:43:34.000 No, it's the same guy, but that's the cop from Die Hard.

00:43:36.000 So funny.

00:43:39.000 We go back and forth with each other.

00:43:41.000 I love it.

00:43:41.000 What do you guys think of a home tape?

00:43:44.000 It's a good fight.

00:43:45.000 It's a different fight.

00:43:46.000 Holly Holm, first of all, is, she's first of all, without a doubt, the best striker in that fucking division.

00:43:54.000 No one moons like her.

00:43:56.000 Her athleticism, her footwork, her kicks, and the way she's conservative with that head kick, too.

00:44:03.000 She waits until she knows it's time, and then ba-booyah!

00:44:05.000 She doesn't waste time on it.

00:44:06.000 She's not going to just throw it.

00:44:08.000 It's calculated as fuck.

00:44:10.000 And when she lands it, that's fucking instep to neck.

00:44:14.000 So good.

00:44:15.000 And if you look at her highlight reel, it's all that, you know, in other smaller organizations.

00:44:19.000 Outside the UFC, yeah.

00:44:20.000 But Misha Tate fights with a lot of pressure.

00:44:23.000 She's tough as shit, and her grappling is really good.

00:44:25.000 Super gritty.

00:44:26.000 Really gritty.

00:44:27.000 She's got to shoot those singles and doubles.

00:44:29.000 Well, maybe.

00:44:31.000 Just close the distance.

00:44:32.000 But here's one thing she has to do.

00:44:33.000 She can't run in.

00:44:35.000 What Rhonda did is play right into the strengths of Holly.

00:44:38.000 Holly's a fantastic counter-striker.

00:44:40.000 And Rhonda just wanted to overwhelm her with pressure and power and take her out.

00:44:45.000 And she got cracked early and often.

00:44:47.000 And by the end of the first round, she was seeing Tweety Birds and all kinds of shit.

00:44:52.000 She probably had no idea what the fuck was going on.

00:44:54.000 Misha's not going to fight like that.

00:44:56.000 She's just not.

00:44:56.000 She can't.

00:44:57.000 She's going to fight hands up high, and she's going to fight more conservative.

00:45:02.000 And I keep going to the Raquel Pennington fight, which was Holly's first fight in the UFC, where she won a very close split decision.

00:45:09.000 And this is not taking anything away from Raquel, because Raquel is a badass bitch.

00:45:12.000 All due respect to Raquel.

00:45:14.000 UFC jitters, son.

00:45:15.000 Yeah, UFC jitters are a big factor.

00:45:18.000 I think that probably played a big factor.

00:45:21.000 But also, Raquel's just real tough and real smart and, you know, didn't rush in.

00:45:25.000 I think the rushing in factor was a big part of that fight.

00:45:29.000 Ronda just charging straight forward like a fucking wild animal, and then Holly moving and cracking her.

00:45:35.000 It's the worst thing you can do.

00:45:36.000 And with a technician, what do you do?

00:45:39.000 You make it a freaking gritty fight.

00:45:41.000 That's what Misha does best.

00:45:42.000 Well, she's got a clincher, and I don't know if she's going to win that clinch.

00:45:45.000 For her to shoot a double or a single, from that distance, she's going to get sprawled on.

00:45:50.000 People have done it before, though, B. No one's taking Holly down in the UFC. No one's taking her down, but you look at previous three fights in the UFC, people can get her to the cage.

00:45:59.000 Sure, but then you got her in a clinch, and I think Holly's stronger than Misha.

00:46:03.000 I mean, it's going to be tough for her.

00:46:04.000 I don't know about the wrestling aspect stronger.

00:46:07.000 I mean, she hits harder, but Misha's a tank.

00:46:08.000 Well, I'll tell you, my friend Justin, Justin Milos, who's a brown belt, you know, a Division I wrestler, serious fucking athlete.

00:46:15.000 He said that Holly feels like a dude.

00:46:17.000 Mm-hmm.

00:46:17.000 He said he's rolled with both of them.

00:46:19.000 He both rolled with Holly and with Ronda.

00:46:21.000 And he's like, there's no comparison.

00:46:23.000 He's like, Holly is strong as fuck.

00:46:24.000 You can see it.

00:46:25.000 He's like, she's really strong.

00:46:27.000 I think Holly wins.

00:46:27.000 I just think it's a different fight.

00:46:29.000 It's a tougher fight for Holly.

00:46:30.000 It's a different puzzle to figure out.

00:46:31.000 It's all about matchups.

00:46:33.000 I don't think that she gets destroyed like Ronda did.

00:46:35.000 I don't think she gets outclassed like Ronda did.

00:46:37.000 I think it's a closer fight, but Holly still comes out on top.

00:46:40.000 Well, you know, the other thing is that Holly went through a camp for Ronda, like no camp she ever went through before.

00:46:45.000 And she said she trained so fucking hard for that, and you see the results of that.

00:46:48.000 I think she's going to do the exact same thing for this camp.

00:46:51.000 So if she goes into this fight with that same kind of training camp behind her, and is just in fucking phenomenal shape, like she was for the Ronda Rousey fight, she might box the shit out of me.

00:47:02.000 There's more pressure on Holly now.

00:47:03.000 Because we expect her to be, you know, she's this, it's not a one-time thing.

00:47:07.000 She wasn't a one-trick pony.

00:47:08.000 She wasn't just a flash in the pan.

00:47:10.000 I think for her, there's more pressure to perform now.

00:47:13.000 Because with Ronda, she's such a big underdog, he's like, ah, she doesn't get murked.

00:47:16.000 Beats the fuck out of her.

00:47:17.000 Now we're like, damn, Holly's for reals.

00:47:19.000 Now there's pressure on her.

00:47:20.000 Maybe.

00:47:21.000 Maybe.

00:47:21.000 But she's had that pressure for her.

00:47:23.000 Yeah, she's a 19-time.

00:47:24.000 Not like this, my man.

00:47:25.000 What about this?

00:47:26.000 Women's boxing?

00:47:27.000 When's the last time you watched it?

00:47:28.000 Exactly.

00:47:29.000 It's in a high school auditorium.

00:47:30.000 It's still a big deal for her, though.

00:47:31.000 She's still there.

00:47:31.000 It's not the same, brother.

00:47:33.000 It's that you're not doing press conference.

00:47:34.000 You're not the champ.

00:47:35.000 You don't have everyone gunning for you.

00:47:36.000 Holly's ready.

00:47:36.000 Holly's ready for this.

00:47:37.000 But another thing that's taking pressure off her is that most people are paying attention to Conor.

00:47:41.000 For this fight, they're talking to her a little bit.

00:47:44.000 100%.

00:47:44.000 This is the Conor McGregor show.

00:47:45.000 Let me ask you guys this question.

00:47:47.000 The rest of the card, what?

00:47:48.000 Yeah.

00:47:48.000 This is a weird question.

00:47:49.000 Meanwhile, there's good fights.

00:47:50.000 We'll pull up the card.

00:47:51.000 There's good fights.

00:47:52.000 This is a great card.

00:47:53.000 It's not just a good card for those two fights.

00:47:54.000 It's the Conor show, though.

00:47:55.000 It's the Conor show, but let's pull up this card, Jamie.

00:47:58.000 There's a fucking bunch of good fights on this card.

00:48:00.000 Dude, look at me.

00:48:01.000 You know, here's one that everyone's sleeping on.

00:48:02.000 Amanda Nunez.

00:48:04.000 That is the dark horse of the division, friends.

00:48:06.000 She's so tough.

00:48:07.000 I think Amanda Nunez is a fucking knockout machine.

00:48:10.000 She is tough as fuck.

00:48:11.000 Great striking.

00:48:12.000 And she's taking on this Valentina Shevchenko chick who is tough as fuck, too, and a multiple-time world Muay Thai champion.

00:48:20.000 That's a tough fight for her.

00:48:21.000 Let's calm down on that posture, though, huh, Valentina?

00:48:24.000 No, she's rushing, bro.

00:48:25.000 That's true.

00:48:25.000 Proud and proud.

00:48:28.000 Amanda Nunez is so athletic and her striking is amazing.

00:48:34.000 She's badass.

00:48:34.000 She hits fucking hard.

00:48:38.000 I watched that Sarah McMahon fight again.

00:48:41.000 She's got a piston of a right hand.

00:48:44.000 She might be the biggest one-punch striker in that division.

00:48:48.000 She's tough as fuck.

00:48:49.000 But, you know, you look at her and then you look at the entire division.

00:48:54.000 I think this fight is a big fight for her because Valentina, she also went through her UFC jitters.

00:49:00.000 She was like real stiff and awkward and she was telling herself that in between rounds in her first fight.

00:49:06.000 I don't think she's going to be like that coming into this fight.

00:49:09.000 She still looked good.

00:49:09.000 Your strike can look good.

00:49:10.000 Here's another fight everybody's sleeping on.

00:49:12.000 Your boy Brandon Thatch and Bahur Durzada.

00:49:15.000 That's a good fight.

00:49:16.000 I think loser gets its walking papers.

00:49:19.000 You think so?

00:49:19.000 I wouldn't give either one of these guys their walking papers.

00:49:22.000 You're not Joe Silva, sir.

00:49:23.000 They're both exciting to watch.

00:49:24.000 Fuck yeah.

00:49:25.000 These are great fighters, man.

00:49:27.000 I agree.

00:49:29.000 C.R. Barradezada?

00:49:30.000 Yeah, so he hasn't fought in almost two years.

00:49:33.000 He's had some time off.

00:49:34.000 He got hurt.

00:49:35.000 What happened to him?

00:49:35.000 I'm not sure.

00:49:36.000 I know he got hurt.

00:49:37.000 And then Thatch has lost two in a row, but they're two short notice fights.

00:49:40.000 He had a change in Gunnar Nelson, and they had to fight Ben Henderson.

00:49:43.000 Yeah, well, he got clipped in the Nelson fight.

00:49:45.000 Gunnar surprised him with that left hook.

00:49:48.000 That was a big punch, and then submitted him.

00:49:50.000 That was a big fight.

00:49:51.000 For Thatch, though, man.

00:49:53.000 I'm telling you, if people could see him in the gym, it's like, dude, what the fuck?

00:49:56.000 Is he too big?

00:49:57.000 Harry's incredible.

00:49:58.000 He's not too big.

00:50:00.000 It's always been a discipline issue for him, and it's always been, is he in the fight?

00:50:04.000 Because in the UFC, you can't, man.

00:50:06.000 You just can't have a night off and beat Gunnar Nelson.

00:50:08.000 You can't not be focused and be in a striking range of a top 10 or top 15 guy and not get knocked out.

00:50:16.000 But in losing all that weight to get down to 170, what does he walk around at?

00:50:20.000 He's at 190. That's it?

00:50:22.000 Yeah, but shredded.

00:50:23.000 He looks so big.

00:50:23.000 I know.

00:50:24.000 Shredded.

00:50:24.000 He looks like he's a light heavyweight.

00:50:26.000 He's tall, but he's thin.

00:50:27.000 But he's a lot of muscle.

00:50:28.000 Yeah, because I look at him and he looks to me almost like a light heavyweight.

00:50:33.000 He's a big boy.

00:50:34.000 185. I'm telling you, he's not a light heavyweight.

00:50:37.000 No, I believe you.

00:50:37.000 Yeah.

00:50:37.000 Well, obviously, he's fighting at 170. He makes the weight.

00:50:40.000 Yeah, but you never know.

00:50:41.000 Some guys are killing themselves.

00:50:41.000 The two times I've seen a fight, he does seem so relaxed before the fight.

00:50:44.000 Like, it might be the way he deals with nerves, but he's almost like talking to people, and he looks way more casual than most fighters.

00:50:51.000 Holy shit, go back to that.

00:50:52.000 Early prelims.

00:50:54.000 Look at this, early prelims.

00:50:55.000 His dad's a badass.

00:50:55.000 Jim Miller and Diego fucking Sanchez.

00:50:58.000 I know, son.

00:50:59.000 That's going to be a war.

00:51:00.000 How is that a prelim fight, by the way?

00:51:01.000 That's early prelims.

00:51:02.000 That's fight pass, bro.

00:51:03.000 UFC pass ratings, son.

00:51:05.000 How is that?

00:51:05.000 Trying to get that UFC pass up.

00:51:07.000 Trying to get everybody to buy UFC fight pass.

00:51:09.000 And Diego Sanchez versus Jim Miller is a great way to get that done.

00:51:12.000 Might do it.

00:51:13.000 That's third fight of the night, folks.

00:51:15.000 Grind.

00:51:15.000 Ooh, Diego Sanchez is such a fucking barbarian.

00:51:19.000 If that guy was put on this earth, he'd do one thing.

00:51:21.000 It's go to war.

00:51:22.000 That's true.

00:51:22.000 He is such an animal.

00:51:25.000 Dude, don't sleep on Eric Silva and Talib.

00:51:29.000 Exactly.

00:51:29.000 That's another good fight.

00:51:31.000 That's a very good—Nordine Talib's a bad motherfucker.

00:51:33.000 First team all body, Eric Silva fell off.

00:51:36.000 Well, yeah, he— Talib took his spot.

00:51:38.000 His body's changed a little bit.

00:51:39.000 A little?

00:51:40.000 Well, I don't want to talk about it, but he did lose his apple bottom, and he doesn't seem quite as shredded.

00:51:45.000 I wonder if he would pass the smell test.

00:51:49.000 Yeah, he was a shredded animal before.

00:51:51.000 He was freaky looking.

00:51:53.000 Yeah, at one point in time, he was ridiculously shredded.

00:51:56.000 Probably a lot of flies.

00:51:58.000 I don't think so, dude.

00:51:59.000 I think he was...

00:52:00.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:52:01.000 He ate 20 pounds of red meat a day, and he realized it was clogging his colon.

00:52:05.000 He lives in a country where you can just get that stuff.

00:52:08.000 Sure.

00:52:08.000 A lot of meat.

00:52:09.000 There's a lot of cattle.

00:52:10.000 Vitamins and minerals.

00:52:11.000 Acai, when you eat a lot of acai and a lot of beef.

00:52:14.000 It's interesting watching all this happen though, isn't it?

00:52:16.000 Watching guys' bodies change, watching their performances change.

00:52:19.000 I like it because it doesn't make me feel as bad about my body.

00:52:22.000 I like the word as.

00:52:24.000 As?

00:52:24.000 Yeah, like you're still comparing to UFC fighters?

00:52:28.000 As, not as bad.

00:52:30.000 How about the obliques on Talib?

00:52:33.000 He's a stud.

00:52:34.000 Super stud, yeah.

00:52:35.000 Congratulations on your...

00:52:36.000 Strong motherfucker too.

00:52:37.000 Calvin Klein obliques.

00:52:39.000 Strong motherfucker.

00:52:40.000 That guy is an animal.

00:52:41.000 The Schaub haircut?

00:52:42.000 He's down.

00:52:42.000 But he's from France.

00:52:43.000 I don't know if I can...

00:52:44.000 Can't get behind French people?

00:52:46.000 How dare you.

00:52:47.000 He's probably Arabic.

00:52:48.000 Chex my boy.

00:52:48.000 He's Arabic who Who was raised in France.

00:52:50.000 I'm just saying obnoxious shit.

00:52:52.000 Now you got to bring out my friends.

00:52:53.000 I don't know, man.

00:52:55.000 Who is that guy that George St. Pierre brought in with him to train?

00:52:59.000 Oh, he's drunk smoking cigarettes?

00:53:01.000 Yeah, the French Muay Thai guy who's a bad motherfucker.

00:53:04.000 Jean something or another.

00:53:05.000 I forget his name.

00:53:06.000 I forget him too, but on The Ultimate Fighter, George told everyone, man, if you're smart with this guy, don't fucking hit him hard, man, because you piss him off, you're going to be in trouble.

00:53:13.000 Yeah, be nice.

00:53:15.000 Meanwhile, he has the ultimate dad bod.

00:53:18.000 That guy's body.

00:53:19.000 That ain't a dad bod.

00:53:21.000 You can't call that dad bod.

00:53:23.000 He looks like Yellow Bastard.

00:53:24.000 He looks like Yellow Bastard from Sin City.

00:53:27.000 No, there's nothing.

00:53:28.000 Who is this?

00:53:29.000 Who?

00:53:29.000 This Muay Thai champion that George St. Pierre brought in.

00:53:32.000 Oh, that guy with a belly.

00:53:33.000 Yeah.

00:53:33.000 Drinks, smokes nonstop.

00:53:35.000 I forget his name, man.

00:53:36.000 He was kicking the shite out of everybody.

00:53:38.000 He knocked some dude down.

00:53:39.000 He smelled like booze.

00:53:40.000 He'd come in drunk.

00:53:40.000 Oh, yeah.

00:53:41.000 He would come in drunk.

00:53:42.000 Like...

00:53:42.000 Up all night, partying, going to, like a Thai fighter.

00:53:46.000 Or the Dutch.

00:53:47.000 Or French, apparently, too.

00:53:49.000 Just all night in Vegas, going to parties, having a good time.

00:53:53.000 And then fucking these young, tough kids up during the day.

00:53:58.000 You know what, man?

00:53:59.000 All that crazy behavior that these guys used to engage in, you know.

00:54:03.000 Can't get away with it.

00:54:03.000 Too many cell phones these days.

00:54:05.000 Like, if these guys are trying to do that today, trying to go out and get crazy today.

00:54:08.000 Look at Johnny Manziel.

00:54:09.000 The football player, he was the Heisman winner.

00:54:12.000 First round draft pick.

00:54:13.000 The dude likes to party.

00:54:15.000 He likes to party so much.

00:54:16.000 Cleveland Brown's like, yo, if you party, man, we're going to cut you.

00:54:19.000 This fucking guy goes to Vegas under a hidden name and wears a wig and a mustache.

00:54:26.000 But he looks like...

00:54:27.000 Everyone's like, oh, it's Johnny Manziel.

00:54:29.000 No.

00:54:31.000 And then it goes online in Cleveland Browns.

00:54:34.000 He's going to get cut.

00:54:35.000 That ain't me.

00:54:35.000 That's a dude with a mustache.

00:54:37.000 That ain't me.

00:54:38.000 I'm telling you.

00:54:39.000 I ain't Johnny Manziel.

00:54:43.000 He partied with a wig.

00:54:44.000 Is this the guy?

00:54:45.000 That's him.

00:54:46.000 He was a stud in high school.

00:54:48.000 Charlie Football reportedly partied in a blonde wig, fake mustache and glasses.

00:54:53.000 How can they tell you you can't party?

00:54:55.000 This is what they can tell you.

00:54:56.000 Your performance was unsatisfactory.

00:54:58.000 You're cut.

00:54:59.000 That's what they can tell you.

00:55:00.000 They can't tell you you can't go have a good time.

00:55:02.000 This is the prom, Joe.

00:55:03.000 What?

00:55:03.000 He's partying every fucking night.

00:55:05.000 What if he's drinking water?

00:55:06.000 What if he just likes to dance?

00:55:08.000 Is this part of his cardio?

00:55:09.000 No, he's actually an alcoholic.

00:55:11.000 He's been in and out of rehab.

00:55:12.000 He's got a movement coach, and his movement coach wants him to fucking...

00:55:15.000 Now you're talking.

00:55:16.000 ...two-step on the dance floor.

00:55:17.000 Now you're talking.

00:55:18.000 That's what he's missing.

00:55:20.000 You fucking movement coach trolled the other day on Twitter.

00:55:22.000 I was howling.

00:55:24.000 What did you say?

00:55:25.000 What was your exact quote?

00:55:26.000 You believe in...

00:55:26.000 I said, if you think Anderson Silva's going to beat Michael Bisping in a decision in the UK, then you obviously believe in dragons and movement coaches.

00:55:35.000 People got mad at you because they were like, Dragons existed, dude, there's plenty of evidence.

00:55:39.000 No, they got mad at the movement coach thing.

00:55:41.000 They think I'm hating on Conor, I'm not at all.

00:55:43.000 Or Port, what's his name?

00:55:44.000 Ido Portal.

00:55:45.000 I'm not at all.

00:55:46.000 Not at all.

00:55:47.000 Conor's fans are the most fucking easily butthurt people ever.

00:55:50.000 I talk so much shit on everybody else, Ronda, all this stuff, and I get some stuff.

00:55:54.000 All I said about Conor, I said, hey, guess what?

00:55:56.000 Frankie Edgar's coming for you.

00:55:58.000 He didn't say anything, of course.

00:56:00.000 I had so many asshole fans.

00:56:02.000 I don't know what country they were from or what.

00:56:03.000 Probably Ireland, buddy.

00:56:04.000 Fuck you, you piece of shit!

00:56:06.000 Bow to the king!

00:56:07.000 You need to fucking kiss the ring!

00:56:09.000 They say fuck with two O's.

00:56:12.000 Fuck you!

00:56:16.000 I've never had such an onslaught of just shit-talking because I said that you have a fight coming.

00:56:23.000 There's an identity thing going on there.

00:56:25.000 They're identifying with this guy in a way that...

00:56:28.000 You know, you remember when you were a kid, and I don't know how it was with you, but when I was a kid, I would identify with a fighter.

00:56:34.000 And if that fighter lost, I was devastated.

00:56:36.000 And I remember the day I let it go.

00:56:38.000 Donald Curry fought Mike McCallum.

00:56:40.000 And I was a giant Donald Curry fan.

00:56:42.000 Man, I love Donald Curry.

00:56:44.000 And Mike McCallum hit him with a left hook to the body and then a left hook up top and shut the lights out.

00:56:50.000 And he went fucking flat backwards, arms over the top of his head.

00:56:54.000 And I went, fuck!

00:56:56.000 And I put on my running shoes, and I went out running.

00:56:58.000 And I ran a couple miles, and I remember when I came back home, I said, I am never getting upset over some fucking dude I don't even know losing ever again.

00:57:07.000 Damn.

00:57:08.000 I'm just gonna enjoy the fights.

00:57:10.000 So to this day, when I call fights, unless it's like, you fucking...

00:57:14.000 Guys, luckily you're not doing it anymore.

00:57:16.000 But you, when you fucking fight.

00:57:18.000 Or someone I care about, it's hard.

00:57:20.000 You know, because I try not to be...

00:57:21.000 But when I watch...

00:57:22.000 If I watch Anderson and Bisping, I want to watch a fight.

00:57:26.000 I want to see what happens.

00:57:27.000 I don't have a dog in the race.

00:57:29.000 I want to see...

00:57:30.000 And if Anderson knocks him out, or if Bisping knocks him out...

00:57:32.000 You don't care.

00:57:33.000 I like the performance.

00:57:34.000 I like watching a performance.

00:57:35.000 Yes.

00:57:36.000 It changed for me at that day.

00:57:38.000 That's so interesting.

00:57:39.000 I remember mine was...

00:57:40.000 I was mad at myself.

00:57:40.000 My brother was...

00:57:41.000 We weren't into fighting.

00:57:43.000 I thought Jean-Claude Van Damme was the man.

00:57:45.000 I thought that shit was real.

00:57:46.000 He is and was.

00:57:47.000 He still is.

00:57:48.000 But for me, it was...

00:57:49.000 He is and was.

00:57:50.000 Mine was...

00:57:51.000 Mine was Magic Johnson.

00:57:52.000 My brother was Michael Jordan.

00:57:53.000 When Magic Johnson got AIDS, I started crying.

00:57:56.000 And my mom had to explain AIDS to me.

00:57:58.000 I was young, man.

00:58:00.000 Me and my brother both bawling, man.

00:58:02.000 But guys like that don't just represent...

00:58:03.000 Conor McGregor doesn't just represent himself.

00:58:05.000 Conor McGregor represents a couple of things.

00:58:07.000 One is possibility, like self-belief, and the idea, the gall to say that I'm going to be a champion, coming out of nowhere and do it.

00:58:15.000 But also, like, you have to look at where, like, Ireland, they did a really interesting thing about, during the financial crisis, like, with the Greeks and people, like, taking to the streets and, you know, freaking out.

00:58:25.000 The Irish are quiet sufferers.

00:58:28.000 The Irish are very stoic people.

00:58:30.000 They don't show off.

00:58:32.000 They don't make a big deal about their own issues and pain.

00:58:36.000 It's very un-Irish.

00:58:37.000 You get a guy like Conor McGregor all of a sudden to come, and they've had the shit end of the stick.

00:58:42.000 For a lot of their history.

00:58:44.000 And so when you get a guy like Conor McGregor to come along and go, hey, by the way, I'm going to beat everybody and I'm fucking Irish.

00:58:50.000 So I'm taking over.

00:58:52.000 For the first time in a long time, the Irish are like, holy fuck, this guy is speaking for us and, by the way, unifying us.

00:59:00.000 That's a big...

00:59:01.000 Historically...

00:59:02.000 He's actually, in a lot of ways...

00:59:04.000 I'm probably going to get shit for this.

00:59:05.000 He's like Jesus.

00:59:05.000 He's historically significant to the Irish and the Irish character.

00:59:10.000 He kind of is.

00:59:10.000 You're not going to get shit for that at all.

00:59:11.000 I think you're entirely right.

00:59:12.000 That's true.

00:59:13.000 I agree.

00:59:13.000 There's a reason it's so loud in Boston and stuff.

00:59:15.000 Preach, son.

00:59:16.000 Preach!

00:59:16.000 Because he is.

00:59:17.000 He's the guy who said, hey, it's our turn.

00:59:20.000 And who says we have to be quiet and keep our heads down?

00:59:22.000 This is the real shit.

00:59:23.000 That's the real Steve.

00:59:23.000 It's about goddamn time.

00:59:24.000 When I went to Ireland to fight, and this was Conor's, what, second, third fight in the UFC? Yeah, I think it was second.

00:59:30.000 You know, people knew who he was.

00:59:32.000 Third.

00:59:32.000 They obviously, they had this show, he's headlining.

00:59:35.000 I get there, wander around, get in a cab.

00:59:38.000 Oh.

00:59:39.000 Oh, you're fighting?

00:59:39.000 Okay, are you here for Connor?

00:59:42.000 Like...

00:59:43.000 Uh, sure, yeah, I'm fucking here for Connor.

00:59:45.000 Who are you fighting?

00:59:46.000 I'm like, okay, wait for it.

00:59:48.000 I'm fighting an Englishman.

00:59:49.000 Fuck him!

00:59:49.000 Hope he dies!

00:59:50.000 That's right.

00:59:51.000 I'm like, yeah, and I'm fucking, you know, what's your name?

00:59:54.000 Ian McCall.

00:59:54.000 Oh, you're a good Irish boy.

00:59:55.000 I'm like, I'm not, but sure, okay.

00:59:57.000 Definitely not.

00:59:59.000 And they...

01:00:01.000 They thought I was a fucking leprechaun or something.

01:00:03.000 Oh, Ian McCall!

01:00:04.000 A leprechaun!

01:00:05.000 What part of Ireland are you from?

01:00:08.000 Lebanon!

01:00:09.000 And this was just before he was a big, big thing.

01:00:13.000 They were already fucking behind him so much, and now he is who he is.

01:00:17.000 Like you said, he is a...

01:00:19.000 He's changing the game.

01:00:20.000 Yeah, completely.

01:00:20.000 His second fight in the UFC, I believe, was in Boston.

01:00:24.000 I think it was his second fight.

01:00:25.000 And was his second fight Max Holloway?

01:00:27.000 Which is the second fight?

01:00:28.000 No.

01:00:29.000 Yes.

01:00:29.000 No, the first fight was Brimage, maybe?

01:00:30.000 Right.

01:00:31.000 The first fight was Brimage.

01:00:32.000 Whatever the fight was that I called, I don't believe I called this first fight.

01:00:35.000 I think I called the second fight.

01:00:36.000 But I remember being there going, this is nuts, man.

01:00:38.000 This guy is on the undercard.

01:00:40.000 He's on the undercard.

01:00:41.000 So loud.

01:00:41.000 And they're going fucking crazy.

01:00:43.000 And I think it's because also Boston is a giant Irish community, right?

01:00:47.000 But there was just something about this guy.

01:00:49.000 I was like, this is nuts.

01:00:50.000 The momentum had already started way more than anybody I'd ever seen fighting on the undercard.

01:00:56.000 But another thing that's going on with Connor is that everybody knows the stakes are much higher because of the shit-talking he does.

01:01:04.000 See, all this shit-talking is fantastic when you pull it off, but everybody knows that if he doesn't pull it off, if Nate fucking sleeps him, if Nate connects with a straight left-right hook and we see the fucking chicken dance out of Connor...

01:01:18.000 It ain't cute anymore.

01:01:19.000 Not always is it not cute, but you better stay offline for a couple weeks.

01:01:23.000 Stay offline!

01:01:25.000 Oh my god!

01:01:26.000 That's what I mean!

01:01:26.000 He's got guts!

01:01:27.000 I know you and Rhonda aren't close anymore, you don't talk to her, but I couldn't imagine, just what I saw when I was online, the barrage of hate.

01:01:38.000 I got hate for Rhonda, for telling people that she was great, for expressing my, being impressed with her performances.

01:01:48.000 The amount of hate she got was a wave.

01:01:52.000 Just a wave.

01:01:53.000 Just a fucking...

01:01:54.000 But it might be different, though, because Rhonda was such a...

01:01:58.000 She was not a very gracious winner.

01:02:00.000 You know, if you look at her when she's climbing rocks in that competition in the Ultimate Fighter, and she's giving Misha the finger, it was so aggressive.

01:02:07.000 And then to not shake her hand, and then to say what she said about Holly, about being a fake-ass preacher's daughter and stuff, that kind of stuff wasn't witty.

01:02:15.000 It was just a lot of venom.

01:02:17.000 It's very hurtful.

01:02:18.000 Where people don't like it, man.

01:02:20.000 Because then you're being a bully.

01:02:21.000 You're being a bully.

01:02:23.000 It's fear.

01:02:24.000 People know that when she was doing that with Holly, there was a fear.

01:02:27.000 And she was trying to put that fear into Holly.

01:02:29.000 And the worst thing in the world is Holly just standing out there.

01:02:32.000 Holly said, huh?

01:02:33.000 Dead-faced.

01:02:34.000 Drinking her water.

01:02:35.000 She didn't even pulse at me.

01:02:36.000 Oh, that's cute.

01:02:38.000 This judoka's going to try and strike with me.

01:02:40.000 I'm going to kick you in the face, bitch.

01:02:42.000 I like that you use the word judoka.

01:02:44.000 Here's a question to you guys who are fighters.

01:02:47.000 What about this idea?

01:02:49.000 What if Misha Tate crawled on a three-point stance, literally crawled toward Holly Holm because she couldn't get kicked.

01:02:59.000 Jon Jones style?

01:03:00.000 Right, and just grabbed her ankle-picked, single-double.

01:03:03.000 She won't be there.

01:03:04.000 She's going to punch her in the face.

01:03:05.000 She's going to punch her in the face like this.

01:03:06.000 She's going to kick her arms.

01:03:08.000 Oh, my God.

01:03:09.000 That's not a viable...

01:03:10.000 She can't, though.

01:03:11.000 You can kick those arms.

01:03:12.000 Oh, she can, actually.

01:03:13.000 Kick the shit out of those arms.

01:03:15.000 Let me tell you something, dude.

01:03:16.000 If you're on all fours and someone kicks your arms, that is horrific.

01:03:21.000 Then your dumb ass has to get up and fight with one arm.

01:03:23.000 Forget it, guys.

01:03:24.000 Sorry.

01:03:24.000 That's my strategy.

01:03:26.000 Hold on.

01:03:28.000 Misha, don't do that.

01:03:29.000 She's probably listening.

01:03:29.000 Misha, don't do that.

01:03:30.000 It's a bad idea.

01:03:31.000 What if Misha climbed on top of the octagon and leaped to the center of the...

01:03:35.000 What if Misha has a knife, guys?

01:03:36.000 You ever thought about that?

01:03:37.000 Well, you can't do that.

01:03:38.000 What if Misha knows ninjutsu?

01:03:40.000 Right.

01:03:41.000 What if she used sleeping dust?

01:03:43.000 Yeah, there's not a whole lot of things that haven't been tried.

01:03:47.000 Hey, what if Misha won and Conor got knocked down in like 15 seconds?

01:03:51.000 Whoa.

01:03:52.000 Does Dana shed a tear?

01:03:53.000 No!

01:03:54.000 Just keep on trucking?

01:03:55.000 Fuck yeah!

01:03:56.000 Keep on trucking.

01:03:57.000 Conor's still the fucking featherweight champion.

01:04:00.000 Not the same.

01:04:01.000 You're batshit crazy if you think that aura is still there.

01:04:03.000 No, not the same.

01:04:04.000 But, look, the Irish people are still going to support him.

01:04:07.000 100%.

01:04:08.000 He's fighting at 70. I agree, Joe, but it's not the same.

01:04:10.000 Fighting at 70. That aura is gone.

01:04:11.000 If he can win a rematch.

01:04:12.000 He's lost before.

01:04:13.000 He lost to Joe Duffy.

01:04:14.000 Not in the UFC. We've never seen him.

01:04:16.000 And he lost to a 25-er.

01:04:18.000 He did?

01:04:19.000 That little Russian guy who leg-locked him was a 25-er.

01:04:21.000 Really?

01:04:22.000 You're living in the past, though.

01:04:23.000 I'm talking now they just make a superstar.

01:04:25.000 He's a 25-er?

01:04:26.000 Really?

01:04:27.000 Wow.

01:04:28.000 It was a long time ago.

01:04:30.000 It doesn't matter.

01:04:31.000 There's 25ers that can submit me.

01:04:33.000 You know, get a hold of my shit.

01:04:35.000 You and me both.

01:04:37.000 Get a hold of my legs.

01:04:37.000 See ya.

01:04:38.000 If you tap, you know.

01:04:40.000 You know, there's guys that, like, it doesn't matter.

01:04:42.000 If they get you in certain positions, there's certain positions that some guys have, they catch you in it, like, Ronnie Yaya.

01:04:48.000 Oh, man.

01:04:48.000 That guy gets a hold of your foot.

01:04:50.000 He's a tiny little dude.

01:04:51.000 He's also an ultimate dad bod guy.

01:04:53.000 Yeah.

01:04:53.000 Tiny little dude.

01:04:55.000 A team constrictor, you know, that's what they call themselves.

01:04:59.000 That is an apt name.

01:05:00.000 Because if that motherfucker gets a hold of your neck, man, you got some fucking problems, lad.

01:05:05.000 Paul Harris in your ankle.

01:05:05.000 Speak for yourself.

01:05:06.000 Yeah.

01:05:07.000 Well, you know, Paul Harris versus Gary Tonin in that submission-only match at Polaris.

01:05:11.000 Gary Tonin, that motherfucker.

01:05:12.000 Yeah.

01:05:13.000 He's crazy.

01:05:14.000 I hope he's getting paid well for that.

01:05:15.000 Gary Tonin is the favorite in that fight.

01:05:17.000 Isn't Kerry Tone the guy who beat everybody at the Eddie Bravo?

01:05:20.000 He's the favorite.

01:05:21.000 He's the favorite there.

01:05:22.000 He's going to wrestle with Paul Harris.

01:05:24.000 Don't say wrestle.

01:05:25.000 I mean, he's going to grapple with them.

01:05:26.000 Yeah, a submission grappling match.

01:05:28.000 I don't know if they have a weight limitation, which could be a giant issue, because Paul Harris gets way up into the 200s before he fights.

01:05:33.000 He fought at 185. It's the first fight in the UFC. Are they going to test him?

01:05:37.000 What?

01:05:38.000 They're going to make sure he's on steroids.

01:05:39.000 Jiu-jitsu don't have time for that bullshit.

01:05:42.000 Time for testing.

01:05:42.000 They want you to be on steroids.

01:05:43.000 I want to quit everything.

01:05:44.000 I want to do steroids and I want to do jiu-jitsu all day and be 55. First of all, how about first take a class?

01:05:50.000 No, just get on steroids and start entering competitions.

01:05:54.000 Just squeeze people.

01:05:56.000 That's what I'm going to do.

01:05:57.000 I'm going to lose gracefully.

01:05:58.000 Hey, at the on it thing, just jump on the mat.

01:06:00.000 We got a super match.

01:06:02.000 Brian the Kid Callen.

01:06:03.000 Fucking loose pajamas that come off in the middle of rolling.

01:06:07.000 Exactly.

01:06:07.000 Hold on, guys, guys, guys.

01:06:08.000 Time, time, time.

01:06:10.000 Time out, guys.

01:06:10.000 Your hogs fucking wipe it all over the mat.

01:06:12.000 Do you see that happen to a combine guy?

01:06:14.000 We talked a little bit about it.

01:06:15.000 His dick came out.

01:06:16.000 You know the combine, right?

01:06:17.000 They're in tights.

01:06:19.000 Yeah.

01:06:20.000 Giant black guy.

01:06:21.000 Douche!

01:06:22.000 Run the 40!

01:06:23.000 Fat-ass pterodactyl dick comes out the front.

01:06:26.000 Then he fucking falls and eats shit on the turf.

01:06:29.000 It was a three-piece set.

01:06:31.000 And look at this girl who's talking about it.

01:06:32.000 Crystal, watch this, watch this.

01:06:33.000 He's a stud.

01:06:34.000 She's getting very excited about this guy's hog.

01:06:35.000 But he's got a piece on him.

01:06:35.000 Oh, they blurred it out!

01:06:37.000 How dare you, Crystal?

01:06:39.000 They blurted it out.

01:06:39.000 You gotta find the real deal out there, young Jamie.

01:06:42.000 It's on the floor.

01:06:43.000 Dude, it looks like a pterodactyl going down for prey.

01:06:46.000 It's all black.

01:06:46.000 Or taking us.

01:06:47.000 No, no, no.

01:06:49.000 It's like this.

01:06:49.000 It looks like he conjured a spirit out of the ground.

01:06:53.000 Now fuck that.

01:06:54.000 It's like on Jurassic Park where the pterodactyls are taking people.

01:06:57.000 Oh, here he goes.

01:06:57.000 Go full screen, son.

01:06:59.000 Let's see this.

01:06:59.000 Let's get this in our face.

01:07:01.000 It comes out right here, right?

01:07:03.000 Oh!

01:07:04.000 He's looking at his own dick.

01:07:06.000 He's like, no, oh shit, my shit.

01:07:09.000 He got that turf dick because he scraped that chocolate dick on that turf.

01:07:13.000 You'll see.

01:07:15.000 Did they let him do it again?

01:07:16.000 I hope so.

01:07:17.000 Here, hold this.

01:07:19.000 Look at how they show it.

01:07:21.000 He's like, uh-oh, uh-oh.

01:07:23.000 Watch this right here.

01:07:27.000 What a hug on this young man.

01:07:29.000 Yes, son.

01:07:30.000 Chris Jones back in the heat.

01:07:31.000 Do you know how many Instagram fucking pussy pictures he must have gotten?

01:07:34.000 How many girls just sent him photos?

01:07:37.000 Ass pics slid into his DMs?

01:07:39.000 Face down.

01:07:40.000 Ass up.

01:07:41.000 Oh, you're that guy.

01:07:42.000 Let's make this happen.

01:07:43.000 You're the dick turf guy.

01:07:44.000 Let's make this happen, dick turf guy.

01:07:47.000 Before you run that comment, like, what's the worst that can happen?

01:07:49.000 I don't know.

01:07:50.000 It's not like your dick's gonna come out or anything.

01:07:51.000 Good point.

01:07:52.000 I'll go run.

01:07:52.000 The sheer volume of cock when he was getting up that you see.

01:07:55.000 The mass.

01:07:56.000 Yeah.

01:07:56.000 Can you imagine?

01:07:57.000 I don't know if you guys ever had turf burn on your dick?

01:08:00.000 Are you kidding me?

01:08:01.000 Heard a turf toe, but not a turf dick.

01:08:03.000 Why did he choose to fall dick first like that?

01:08:05.000 I don't think he meant to.

01:08:07.000 For sure roll, though.

01:08:08.000 I definitely think he fell forward to cover his dick.

01:08:11.000 Probably.

01:08:12.000 He knew if it came out of his shorts, it was going to the ground.

01:08:15.000 Why don't you just let everybody see his dick?

01:08:17.000 If I had a dick like that, I'd be fucking ripping my pants every day.

01:08:19.000 I'd be fine.

01:08:20.000 He falls down, he gets up, he tells the coach, he goes, my dick fell out.

01:08:23.000 Oh shit.

01:08:24.000 Here it is.

01:08:24.000 Watch the get up.

01:08:25.000 Freeze frame on this pterodactyl jamie.

01:08:27.000 We went right to count.

01:08:29.000 Boom!

01:08:30.000 What in the fuck?

01:08:31.000 That's the problem.

01:08:33.000 That dude needs one of them diamond cups just to contain that.

01:08:36.000 I don't see a problem with it.

01:08:38.000 There's no problem.

01:08:38.000 Or a fucking sleeping bag.

01:08:39.000 He tells the coach, he goes, damn, my dick fell out.

01:08:41.000 I'll tell you what, that's just reinforcing stereotypes.

01:08:45.000 I wasn't surprised.

01:08:47.000 I wasn't like, oh my god, he has a giant dick.

01:08:48.000 I'm like, yeah, that's about right.

01:08:50.000 I didn't miss a beat.

01:08:52.000 I was like, oh, that's cool.

01:08:53.000 That's one of those stereotypes that people don't have a problem with.

01:08:56.000 If that was a white guy, I'd be like, oh shit, I would have jumped out of my fucking seat like Showtime kicked someone in the face off the cage.

01:09:02.000 The Polish guy with a fat white dick.

01:09:06.000 Fat, angry, snorting smoke.

01:09:10.000 Like a dragon in his pants.

01:09:12.000 Like a dragon.

01:09:15.000 Big, fat, pale, white, blue-veined dick.

01:09:17.000 You know what makes me laugh right now?

01:09:20.000 You know what cracks me up right now?

01:09:21.000 Someone's listening to the show going, I thought it was a breakdown in the fights.

01:09:25.000 They've just been talking about dick girls.

01:09:27.000 They're talking about a dragon in this guy's pants.

01:09:30.000 That's how it goes, folks.

01:09:32.000 That's what's really funny when people get angry at this podcast.

01:09:35.000 They get angry.

01:09:36.000 They're angry at some of the shit that we say.

01:09:38.000 What do you say when you're with your friends and you're drinking?

01:09:41.000 What do you say?

01:09:42.000 Talk about dicks 90% of the time.

01:09:44.000 People get so angry at that Dada 5000 thing.

01:09:47.000 Because they got so angry that I mentioned fried chicken.

01:09:49.000 Don't be mad at us.

01:09:50.000 Be mad he died fighting MMA. But here's the thing that's crazy.

01:09:53.000 They were upset at me that I mentioned fried chicken because they said that's racist.

01:09:58.000 But they weren't upset that we're making fun of a guy who is still in the hospital.

01:10:02.000 Like, this is how crazy people's priorities are.

01:10:04.000 That, first of all, fried chicken is not racist.

01:10:07.000 It's delicious.

01:10:07.000 I love fried chicken.

01:10:08.000 It is a great food.

01:10:09.000 It's delicious.

01:10:10.000 It's fatty for you.

01:10:11.000 It's not necessarily the best food for you, but that's not racist.

01:10:14.000 What racist is, is claiming or pretending that one race is superior to another race.

01:10:20.000 That's not what fried chicken is.

01:10:23.000 Fried chicken is just food.

01:10:24.000 And it was an example of a bad diet while he's overweight and cutting all this weight and look like shit fighting.

01:10:29.000 There's so many people that are looking forward to being angry so quick.

01:10:33.000 They need a reason.

01:10:34.000 They're just looking forward to being upset.

01:10:36.000 If I was fat and someone was saying, you meatball-eating motherfucker, I'd be like, yeah, I like meatballs.

01:10:43.000 Is that so bad because I'm Italian?

01:10:45.000 You're genuinely not...

01:10:46.000 I remember one time, I actually remember asking you this, so interesting, because you came from Boston, kind of working class, kind of rough, and I never heard, and I'd known you for probably three years, this is way back, and I remember, I said, I'd never heard you say, you say bad things about people,

01:11:02.000 but I never heard you once.

01:11:04.000 You're fucking mean, but you're not racist.

01:11:05.000 Basically, he's a ball of hate, but I never heard you say anything off-color, not once.

01:11:11.000 I never heard you say a prejudiced thing in any way.

01:11:13.000 And I remember saying to you, I go, you know, you never, I've never heard you make an off-color joke about any race, black people, anything else.

01:11:20.000 And you said it never made any sense to me.

01:11:23.000 You said, I can show you a whole lot of really dumb white people where I grew up.

01:11:28.000 It's all about socialization.

01:11:29.000 I don't know if you remember that.

01:11:30.000 I don't, but that's how I feel.

01:11:33.000 It never made sense.

01:11:34.000 It's culture.

01:11:35.000 I think it's obvious, though.

01:11:36.000 And with Dada, if Dada was white and you went, ah, fucking fried chicken, Pepsi drinking, no one's going to say shit.

01:11:43.000 This is how I feel about the Dada thing.

01:11:45.000 What I do feel bad about is that the guy's still in the hospital.

01:11:48.000 That sucks.

01:11:49.000 Don't want anything bad to happen to him.

01:11:50.000 I don't want anything bad to happen to him.

01:11:52.000 I'm glad he's okay.

01:11:53.000 And genuinely, all we were doing was joking around and having fun, because that's what we do.

01:11:57.000 And if people construed that as racism, because I mentioned chicken, please substitute it for pizza.

01:12:02.000 That's what I meant.

01:12:03.000 Whatever you want.

01:12:04.000 My intent is what's important.

01:12:05.000 People are like, you were trying to be funny by saying fried chicken.

01:12:07.000 Yes, I was.

01:12:08.000 Yes.

01:12:09.000 But I don't think that's racist.

01:12:10.000 I don't.

01:12:11.000 I don't.

01:12:12.000 It's food.

01:12:13.000 And it's funny.

01:12:14.000 That whole situation, you know how when you do something crazy and people go, but did you die?

01:12:19.000 Yeah, bitch.

01:12:20.000 Dada died.

01:12:21.000 Dada died.

01:12:22.000 Well, his heart stopped.

01:12:23.000 Is that what happened?

01:12:24.000 Here's the thing, man.

01:12:25.000 Yeah, man.

01:12:26.000 And everyone's saying that we shouldn't have been making fun of his weight and his family was saying that he was only two or three pounds over the week of the fight.

01:12:34.000 Well then, there's even less excuses.

01:12:37.000 Because if you're that much, if you're only two or three pounds, you're only cutting two or three pounds away to fight, he's just unprepared.

01:12:45.000 Whoever did it, they were upset at us that we were making fun of his MMA training or strength and conditioning coach.

01:12:50.000 But this is based on the performance.

01:12:53.000 Look, we have to.

01:12:54.000 This is a co-main event, and there's something...

01:12:58.000 Bigger at stake.

01:12:59.000 Like, all due respect to Dada, this is my feelings on the Dada thing.

01:13:03.000 Here's the good thing.

01:13:04.000 Here's a compliment that I will give him.

01:13:06.000 That guy never quit.

01:13:07.000 His fucking heart had to give out.

01:13:09.000 That guy never quit.

01:13:10.000 He didn't have any endurance, but he still fought three fucking hard rounds, and he had nothing in the tank.

01:13:16.000 But he never quit.

01:13:17.000 There's a lot of opportunities for him to stay down.

01:13:19.000 He never quit.

01:13:20.000 He showed a lot of heart.

01:13:21.000 I like the way you think, Joe.

01:13:23.000 But he wasn't trained properly.

01:13:24.000 He wasn't prepared properly.

01:13:26.000 He doesn't have the skill set.

01:13:27.000 He wasn't ready.

01:13:28.000 No.

01:13:28.000 That's right.

01:13:29.000 And if you walk into that magnitude of a fight and you have titties hanging, I'm gonna make a comment.

01:13:34.000 But I make a comment like that about Roy Nelson, too, all the time.

01:13:37.000 I do it about Roy Nelson all the time.

01:13:39.000 I've always said that Roy Nelson's gut is like he's wearing like 30 sweaters and that it's all like you're hitting cheeseburgers.

01:13:45.000 You're not even hitting him.

01:13:46.000 You're hitting all this shit that he needs.

01:13:48.000 You know, that's okay because I'm white and Roy's white, but those fights are not good for the sport.

01:13:55.000 And this is why they're not good for the sport.

01:13:57.000 You're taking two guys that look bad.

01:14:00.000 Their endurance and conditioning was terrible.

01:14:03.000 The scrambles were awful.

01:14:06.000 Like when one time Kimbo took him down and just got on top of him and they're just laying on top of each other.

01:14:11.000 Very amateur.

01:14:12.000 It's just so, it's so bush leagues that there's no way that anybody who watches that, like say if you're a boxing fan and you watch like, did you see Terrence Crawford the other night?

01:14:22.000 That motherfucker.

01:14:23.000 Amazing.

01:14:24.000 Good luck beating that dude.

01:14:26.000 God damn he's good.

01:14:27.000 He murked that dude.

01:14:28.000 He's so good.

01:14:29.000 And you know what man, his switch, he'll fight you orthodox.

01:14:32.000 There's no one better.

01:14:32.000 And then he'll switch southpaw.

01:14:33.000 I mean it's like Marvin Hagler almost.

01:14:36.000 Like that level of switch.

01:14:37.000 His ability to fight from either stance.

01:14:39.000 He just needs a big Like a mainstream fight.

01:14:41.000 Yeah, so if you're a boxing fan and you watch that fight and then you say, well, let me check out what this MMA shit's all about and then you go and watch the Kimbo Dada fight.

01:14:51.000 You're going to throw up.

01:14:52.000 You're going to throw up.

01:14:53.000 Like, this is an embarrassment to the sport.

01:14:55.000 And this is not...

01:14:57.000 A mark against them as human beings.

01:14:59.000 This is just where they are now.

01:15:01.000 Everybody starts off.

01:15:02.000 Look, the first day you enter into any sort of an MMA gym or dojo, whatever, we all start out as someone who doesn't know anything.

01:15:11.000 We all start out with whatever strength and conditioning you've gotten coming in.

01:15:16.000 If you're a gymnast or whatever, you bring whatever base you have.

01:15:19.000 But we all start out not knowing anything.

01:15:21.000 Once you get to a co-main event, I demand that you are better than that.

01:15:26.000 It's that simple.

01:15:27.000 I demand it.

01:15:28.000 I agree.

01:15:29.000 Especially 2016. Fuck you, man.

01:15:32.000 This is where I respect the shit out of the UFC and Dana.

01:15:34.000 When Kimbo wanted to fight in the UFC, they were like, fight in the Ultimate Fighter.

01:15:38.000 You want to fight in the UFC? I know you're making a lot of money in Elite XC, and everybody's making it out that you're the biggest thing.

01:15:44.000 But look, when Seth Petruzzelli fought Kimbo, there's a video of me saying it.

01:15:50.000 I was watching it from the fucking green room of the Atlanta punchline.

01:15:54.000 And I'd just gotten off stage, and Ken Shamrock got injured when he was supposed to be fighting Kimbo.

01:15:59.000 And I went backstage, and I saw Seth Petruzzelli.

01:16:02.000 I go, what the fuck is going on?

01:16:03.000 And they said, Ken Shamrock got injured.

01:16:05.000 I went, no way!

01:16:06.000 And they said, Seth Petruzzelli stepped in.

01:16:08.000 Day of the fight!

01:16:10.000 And took the fight.

01:16:10.000 I'm like, oh no, Kimbo's gonna get fucked up!

01:16:14.000 That's the first thing.

01:16:15.000 I never make calls like that.

01:16:16.000 But I said it.

01:16:17.000 It's on video.

01:16:18.000 You can watch the video of me saying he's gonna get fucked up, and then he gets knocked out while we're watching the video.

01:16:24.000 Like, six seconds later, I'm like, I told you.

01:16:26.000 Because there's a giant difference between fighting guys who are awkward and clumsy, and you're a big, tough guy with good boxing.

01:16:35.000 And in backyards.

01:16:36.000 And fighting a motherfucker like Seth Petrazi.

01:16:38.000 So let me ask you this, Joe.

01:16:39.000 How do you justify CM Punk?

01:16:42.000 I don't.

01:16:42.000 I said it, I don't.

01:16:44.000 They asked him to go on The Ultimate Fighter.

01:16:45.000 From what I've heard, they asked him and he was like, nah, I'm good.

01:16:47.000 First of all, sweat that glorious beard.

01:16:49.000 Damn, son, look at that.

01:16:50.000 Why don't you bring that shit back?

01:16:52.000 This is a last minute replacement.

01:16:54.000 I gotta think Seth Purchaselli's gonna fuck him up.

01:16:58.000 If I'm wrong, you'll never see this.

01:17:02.000 That's funny.

01:17:03.000 So this is the fight live.

01:17:14.000 Why is everyone so surprised?

01:17:22.000 That beard is glorious.

01:17:28.000 You're super high, aren't you?

01:17:29.000 Oh, I'm so high.

01:17:30.000 She looks so high right now.

01:17:32.000 I had to be that high to give that fucking breakdown on a television like that.

01:17:39.000 I could hide in that beard.

01:17:40.000 That's a hell of a beard.

01:17:41.000 I got a lot of man in me.

01:17:43.000 If you want discipline, Kimbo, give him Justin.

01:17:45.000 This is reality.

01:17:47.000 There's levels to fighting.

01:17:49.000 I'm an MMA analyst.

01:17:51.000 What do I do as a profession?

01:17:54.000 I've been doing it for a long fucking time.

01:17:56.000 I've called thousands of fights.

01:17:57.000 That fight Should not be a co-main event fight.

01:18:01.000 I'm not saying those guys shouldn't be allowed to compete against each other.

01:18:04.000 They certainly should, but they're not I mean I understand they want to get paid and I get all that and I know that Kimbo has some serious knee problems like Kimbo when he was on the Ultimate Fighter they diagnosed him with bone-on-bone cartilage I mean his cartilage is just devastating.

01:18:18.000 He's not young.

01:18:19.000 His knees are fucked from years of football.

01:18:22.000 And, you know, all the MMA training that he has done.

01:18:24.000 So I'm not hating on those guys to get paid, but what I am saying is, please, Bellator, cut the shit.

01:18:30.000 You can't do that.

01:18:32.000 Cut the side-axe, the circus.

01:18:33.000 You got a chance, a real chance.

01:18:35.000 Bellator has a real chance of being a gigantic organization.

01:18:39.000 They just signed Benson Henderson.

01:18:41.000 They got Josh Thompson.

01:18:42.000 They might get your boy Mitrione.

01:18:44.000 They might get a bunch of other really good fighters.

01:18:46.000 They got Vanderlei Silva just fucking signed with him.

01:18:49.000 They have a real chance at being...

01:18:51.000 Right up there with the UFC. They're a fucking Viacom entity.

01:18:55.000 They have a tremendous amount of money behind them.

01:18:57.000 They're on television.

01:18:58.000 They're on Spike TV. Do it right.

01:19:00.000 You know what's tough, though?

01:19:01.000 If you're Bellator, we're going to look at the ratings, son.

01:19:04.000 Over two million views while Dada's titties are to the side and Kimbo's gas.

01:19:08.000 It's Hoise Gracie, though.

01:19:09.000 That's Hoise Gracie.

01:19:10.000 I disagree.

01:19:11.000 I think it's Kimbo.

01:19:12.000 He's a huge draw.

01:19:13.000 Huge draw.

01:19:14.000 I don't think it's Hoise.

01:19:15.000 You might be right.

01:19:16.000 What if they have their own version of Fight Pass where UFC's pushing Fight Pass?

01:19:19.000 Put the freak shows on Fight Pass.

01:19:21.000 Yeah, but why?

01:19:21.000 You can't put Kimball on Fight Pass when you get two million views on Spike TV. That's all they care about.

01:19:26.000 Maybe it'll drive views to your content-based website.

01:19:28.000 When a guy is in such bad shape that the fight itself almost kills him, And not damage.

01:19:36.000 Just competing almost kills him.

01:19:39.000 Because if you look at the damage that he took...

01:19:41.000 Nothing happened.

01:19:42.000 Almost nothing.

01:19:43.000 Like, the combination that dropped him...

01:19:45.000 Like, the people have played it back and forth.

01:19:47.000 They're like ghost punches.

01:19:48.000 His body failed him.

01:19:49.000 If he would've ate the same shots Bisping did against Anderson Silva...

01:19:52.000 Oh my god.

01:19:52.000 You're dead.

01:19:53.000 Oh my god.

01:19:54.000 You're dead.

01:19:54.000 That fucking flying knee.

01:19:56.000 That fucking flying knee.

01:19:57.000 But here, again, if anybody felt that I said something racist, I'm sorry that you felt that way.

01:20:04.000 I really am.

01:20:05.000 I'm not sorry that I said chicken, because I think this is ridiculous.

01:20:09.000 It's a ridiculous argument.

01:20:11.000 And I think in this day and age, there's nothing wrong with chicken.

01:20:14.000 There's nothing wrong with eating chicken.

01:20:16.000 It tastes great.

01:20:17.000 It's not racism.

01:20:19.000 Racism is trying to imply that one race is inferior.

01:20:24.000 And that is just not the case.

01:20:26.000 Replace chicken with any fast food.

01:20:27.000 Any fatty foods.

01:20:28.000 When you're out of shape, it was an example.

01:20:30.000 But there's a thing that people do, man, where they just look to be offended.

01:20:33.000 Or they decide that this is something they should be offended at.

01:20:36.000 Not looking at intent.

01:20:38.000 My intent was, I'm talking about a guy who, obviously, he didn't eat kale salads and fucking lean fish to get to that weight.

01:20:45.000 Hey man, he died!

01:20:47.000 That's another point, is that when you say, it feels like we live in a time when you are fighting for one group of people.

01:20:58.000 Like, say, people who have been oppressed in the past.

01:21:01.000 Instead of kind of having an intelligent debate and pointing your guns where they should be pointed at, which is usually a complex set of issues, what we're doing, I feel like, is we're demonizing one group to bolster another group that we call...

01:21:14.000 Not really.

01:21:15.000 They're not demonizing white people.

01:21:16.000 I don't think anybody's demonizing.

01:21:19.000 You think people demonize?

01:21:20.000 I do.

01:21:20.000 I think a lot of times, you know, if you look at, for example, I went to UPenn and I spoke to these kids in their theater department.

01:21:29.000 Why?

01:21:29.000 Because somebody asked me to do it.

01:21:31.000 Somebody asked me to do it.

01:21:32.000 It was fun.

01:21:33.000 No, they wanted me to do it about the Goldbergs and stuff, and I was there.

01:21:35.000 I was there.

01:21:36.000 And I went and I asked the kids, I said, how many of you feel like your comedy...

01:21:42.000 Is something you have to be careful of because you might offend somebody in your class or your school.

01:21:48.000 And half the class raised their hands.

01:21:51.000 And by the way, most of those kids, because I looked at it, were mostly white.

01:21:56.000 And I thought, that's a shame.

01:21:58.000 That's such a bummer that your expression, and especially your comedy...

01:22:03.000 Is being cowed by, you know, the fact that you're trying to be fair-minded.

01:22:09.000 You know, none of those kids, I don't think, were racist or anything else, but when you're actually having...

01:22:14.000 Or sexist.

01:22:14.000 Right.

01:22:14.000 But we see this in our institutions of learning, especially our higher institutions of learning, where you're just not able to really and honestly express yourself.

01:22:23.000 And God forbid it's funny!

01:22:25.000 God forbid it's a joke!

01:22:27.000 You know, if you're not toeing the line, then you will be censored.

01:22:33.000 I don't think it's a matter of demonizing white people, because they're not demonizing white people without doing that.

01:22:38.000 I don't think it's demonizing white people.

01:22:40.000 It's looking for anything to be offended at.

01:22:43.000 Even things that are not offensive.

01:22:46.000 Chris Rock took a lot of heat from other black people.

01:22:50.000 And white people.

01:22:51.000 And Asian people.

01:22:52.000 We're all very sensitive at a time when we are making big strides as well.

01:22:57.000 A hundred percent.

01:22:57.000 And I think part of that, I mean, the oversensitivity is because we sense that there is a lot of positive momentum.

01:23:05.000 Right.

01:23:06.000 And that people want to keep that going and they want to stop any racism.

01:23:10.000 Any racism that does come up, they want to nip that shit in the bud and let people know that it's not tolerated anymore.

01:23:15.000 Which is understandable, but we have to know when racism is real and when it's not real.

01:23:20.000 Right.

01:23:20.000 And there's also a lot of bandwagon bullshit jumping on where people just decide that this is something they should be offended by.

01:23:27.000 Where I'll sit down with you, motherfucker, you try to argue with me that that's racist.

01:23:32.000 There's no argument.

01:23:33.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:23:34.000 It's a lynch mom who they just want to jump on.

01:23:36.000 Yeah, it's a stupid argument.

01:23:38.000 It's like watermelon.

01:23:39.000 Watermelon's a stupid argument.

01:23:41.000 Watermelon's a goddamn delicious fruit.

01:23:42.000 You tell me that watermelon is racist, you're an idiot.

01:23:45.000 If you tell me grape juice, watermelon, chicken's racist, then I don't know what to tell you.

01:23:49.000 They're reacting, though, to what was used in the past.

01:23:51.000 They're using what was used in the past.

01:23:53.000 I know.

01:23:53.000 I get it, but fried chicken has always been a delicious food.

01:24:00.000 It's not something that poor people could only afford.

01:24:04.000 As a matter of fact, who was running for president?

01:24:07.000 I think it was Roosevelt.

01:24:10.000 Part of his campaign was a chicken in every pot.

01:24:14.000 And the reason why is because chicken was expensive back then.

01:24:18.000 So he was saying that he was going to offer prosperity to the American people and that every family would have a chicken.

01:24:24.000 I'm offended fried chicken's racist.

01:24:26.000 No, I'm offended.

01:24:27.000 It's not racist.

01:24:28.000 It's racial in that it's always been in some way connected with black people.

01:24:33.000 But it's also...

01:24:35.000 It's not something only black people eat.

01:24:37.000 It's not like curry.

01:24:38.000 Even then, that's like a serious ethnic food.

01:24:41.000 You know, you say someone smells like curry, that's more racial if you're talking about an Indian person.

01:24:47.000 When Magic Johnson owned all his Starbucks, He opened Starbucks in black neighborhoods, and one of the first things he said is, you guys are selling food that black people that I grew up with are not going to eat, and here are the foods you should sell at my Starbucks.

01:25:03.000 And he made a lot of money by changing At least back in the time.

01:25:07.000 What they were willing to offer.

01:25:09.000 What did they change it to?

01:25:10.000 What was the new menu?

01:25:11.000 Believe it or not, I think one of the things, this is back when I read about it probably a long time, 10 years ago more than that, they were offering in the Starbucks in Harlem and places like that, they were offering things like sweet potato pie.

01:25:25.000 Fried chicken.

01:25:26.000 I don't know.

01:25:27.000 Those little sweet potato pies are goddamn delicious.

01:25:30.000 At Starbucks?

01:25:32.000 I've never seen it at Starbucks.

01:25:33.000 Back in the day, Magic Johnson said, the food that you have in these is not going to fly.

01:25:38.000 Hold up.

01:25:39.000 Magic Johnson put sweet potato pie?

01:25:41.000 We don't eat scones.

01:25:44.000 We don't eat scones.

01:25:46.000 That's not racist.

01:25:47.000 That's cultural.

01:25:48.000 That's a cultural thing.

01:25:49.000 You know what's hilarious?

01:25:50.000 Another thing that people were trying to get upset at me was orange soda.

01:25:53.000 Guess what?

01:25:54.000 Orange soda is not connected to black people.

01:25:58.000 It is just not.

01:25:59.000 It's just not.

01:26:00.000 Like saying that orange soda is racist.

01:26:02.000 So that was like the cover of Yahoo.

01:26:04.000 They cut out cheeseburgers and they wrote, Joe Rogan says that Dada ate fried chicken and orange soda.

01:26:10.000 Like, they didn't even say cheeseburger because I was trying to throw in a bunch of different things.

01:26:15.000 But orange soda is not racist at all.

01:26:17.000 It's a syrupy, super sweet, fatty drink.

01:26:20.000 I love me some orange soda.

01:26:22.000 It's very tasty.

01:26:23.000 That's probably why I'm thicker than a Snickers, man.

01:26:26.000 I just I love orange soda, bro.

01:26:28.000 But you like sugar.

01:26:29.000 I'm addicted to it.

01:26:30.000 Dude, those goddamn delicious mangoes with chili.

01:26:33.000 You fucked me with those.

01:26:34.000 I really never had them, dude.

01:26:36.000 Go in there.

01:26:36.000 They got your name on them.

01:26:37.000 There's bags of them.

01:26:38.000 I can't eat them.

01:26:39.000 All right, I'll try them.

01:26:40.000 There's a diet that I'm on.

01:26:40.000 From who?

01:26:41.000 You know what?

01:26:41.000 I should try it.

01:26:42.000 I got a bunch of different companies that I have back there.

01:26:45.000 You hungry?

01:26:45.000 You want one?

01:26:46.000 Go grab one.

01:26:47.000 There's bags of them back there.

01:26:49.000 Don't be scared to bring an extra bag, my man.

01:26:51.000 The best ones that I've tried so far are Trader Joe's.

01:26:54.000 To the right.

01:26:56.000 The Trader Joe's ones are goddamn delicious.

01:26:58.000 Yeah, sugar, man.

01:26:59.000 Me and sugar, I don't...

01:27:00.000 Everybody and sugar.

01:27:01.000 People are mad at me for talking too much about sugar, so I'm going to shut the fuck up.

01:27:05.000 Man, you can't do anything.

01:27:06.000 I can't do anything.

01:27:12.000 Well, you know what?

01:27:13.000 We're dealing with volume, the numbers.

01:27:15.000 I mean, we've got like 23 million downloads this month.

01:27:19.000 The numbers are insane.

01:27:21.000 But whenever you stand for something or whenever you have an opinion...

01:27:23.000 I stand for chili mango.

01:27:25.000 Me too.

01:27:26.000 Whenever you stand for something or you have an opinion, people aren't going to agree with everything, man.

01:27:30.000 But if people aren't disagreeing with you, you're a schmuck.

01:27:33.000 You're a schmuck, man.

01:27:34.000 Well, you're not expressing yourself honestly.

01:27:36.000 You're not being original.

01:27:38.000 You're trying to please the crowd.

01:27:39.000 Everybody has different points of view.

01:27:40.000 There's nothing wrong with that, though.

01:27:42.000 You're not a hater.

01:27:43.000 Ooh, look at that.

01:27:44.000 He gave it to you.

01:27:46.000 Aw, thanks, brother.

01:27:47.000 He's eating a fucking bar.

01:27:48.000 He's eating something super healthy, low sugar, and he handed that bag over to you.

01:27:52.000 Just because I'm Mexican doesn't mean I like fruit and fucking salt on it, okay?

01:27:56.000 I've never been able to figure that out.

01:27:57.000 Well, it's the chili powder, man.

01:28:00.000 That's a delicious combination.

01:28:02.000 I had a dream last night.

01:28:03.000 Not my thing.

01:28:03.000 I had a dream last night that I was eating bread.

01:28:06.000 And that someone called me out on it and someone was like, dude, you're eating bread.

01:28:10.000 I was like, oh no.

01:28:11.000 Freaked out.

01:28:12.000 Sinner.

01:28:12.000 I got too high and I ate the bread and I forgot.

01:28:14.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:28:15.000 What kind of a fucked up dream is that?

01:28:17.000 That I'm eating bread?

01:28:18.000 That was a real dream that I had.

01:28:20.000 I can't believe you're going to run with this diet for more than 60 days.

01:28:23.000 I'm definitely gonna run with it for more than 60 days.

01:28:25.000 I feel great.

01:28:26.000 I'm down...

01:28:27.000 I don't know how much I'm down.

01:28:28.000 But I was at 194 this morning.

01:28:30.000 And you started at...

01:28:31.000 Actually, 193.8.

01:28:32.000 You started at what?

01:28:34.000 202, 203. Not bad.

01:28:36.000 I'm somewhere around, like, nine pounds down.

01:28:39.000 That's pretty cool.

01:28:40.000 And you're eating...

01:28:41.000 I'm eating like a pig!

01:28:42.000 My thing is, I'm good when I'm at home, but whenever Cal and I go on the road or anything like that, my diet goes to shit.

01:28:49.000 If I had to walk around with a 10-pound jacket on, I'd be uncomfortable.

01:28:53.000 I'd be like, God, get this fucking stupid jacket off.

01:28:55.000 I think that's how you have to look at your body.

01:28:58.000 If you're one of those people that goes, Oh, I could lose 20 pounds.

01:29:00.000 Who gives a shit?

01:29:01.000 If you take that 20 pounds and put a 20-pound jacket on, how would you feel?

01:29:05.000 You're just accustomed to feeling like shit.

01:29:07.000 So that feeling like shit becomes your new normal.

01:29:10.000 You know what?

01:29:10.000 I'll eat six Cadbury eggs and wear that jacket.

01:29:14.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:29:16.000 I fucking...

01:29:16.000 Cadbury eggs!

01:29:17.000 He loves Cadbury eggs.

01:29:18.000 If you want to kidnap him, put some Cadbury eggs in a van, and put them in the back of the van, and then he'll just...

01:29:26.000 He can't help himself.

01:29:27.000 I will gladly wear that 10-pound jacket.

01:29:29.000 He'll just go in there like one of those fucking trap things to catch coyotes.

01:29:31.000 He can't help himself.

01:29:32.000 He'll put fucking food in there and take traps behind him.

01:29:36.000 Got you!

01:29:36.000 Got you, big boy!

01:29:37.000 Got you!

01:29:39.000 We were in a meeting a couple days ago with Fox, all suits, and someone had a bag of red vines, like, shop, you want one?

01:29:46.000 They threw me the bag.

01:29:47.000 I was like, ah, fuck.

01:29:49.000 Calum goes, holy shit, he ate all of them in front of everyone.

01:29:52.000 Well, I turned my head to look out the window, and then I turned back, and they were gone.

01:29:55.000 I was like, what'd you do?

01:29:56.000 Swallow them all?

01:29:57.000 Sugar is a drug.

01:29:59.000 It is a drug.

01:30:00.000 It really is.

01:30:01.000 It doesn't seem like a drug because it doesn't get you high.

01:30:04.000 But there's a physical reaction that your body has to sugar where when I would eat, I'd eat a full meal and then after the meal I would still be hungry for something.

01:30:13.000 And what I was craving was like either carbs or I was craving cookies.

01:30:18.000 Like I'd see like a bag of cookies and I'd go, oh, cookies and milk.

01:30:21.000 Talking about sweet, dude.

01:30:22.000 Yeah.

01:30:23.000 Sugar.

01:30:23.000 Meanwhile, I'm stuffed.

01:30:26.000 Stuffed like I ate a giant meal.

01:30:27.000 Yeah, I don't have a sweet tooth.

01:30:29.000 I have sweet teeth.

01:30:29.000 It's just like that all the time.

01:30:31.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:30:32.000 I don't ever not want sugar.

01:30:34.000 Yeah, but if you stopped eating it, if you took time off, I guarantee you your gut bacteria would change and that craving would go away.

01:30:42.000 Look, I could eat that.

01:30:44.000 No one's stopping me.

01:30:45.000 I don't have a law.

01:30:46.000 It's not like I'm on probation.

01:30:47.000 I can't have fucking sugar.

01:30:49.000 I don't want it.

01:30:50.000 What about raw honey?

01:30:52.000 Is raw honey different in your body?

01:30:53.000 No, not really.

01:30:54.000 Sugar, sugar, son.

01:30:55.000 I mean, sugar, sugar, but it's not terrible for you.

01:30:57.000 Look, it's not terrible for you if you don't get too much of it.

01:30:59.000 The problem is, you're only really supposed to have about 25 grams of sugar a day if you live a healthy diet.

01:31:06.000 I'm saying good luck getting 25 grams.

01:31:08.000 That's all I do, I think.

01:31:09.000 I think bread breaks down as glucose.

01:31:13.000 No, bread is definitely sugar.

01:31:15.000 Sugar and pasta.

01:31:17.000 Pasta is sugar.

01:31:19.000 This diet, this Mark Sisson's primal blueprint diet is no grains.

01:31:25.000 I've never done that before.

01:31:26.000 I've done gluten-free before where I had rice noodles and stuff like that.

01:31:30.000 This is the first time I've ever had no grains at all.

01:31:33.000 I just did it for a goof.

01:31:35.000 I'm not doing it to prepare for anything, but listen to this guy, Mark Sisson, who was a very smart guy and very interesting guy to talk to.

01:31:43.000 He's not a bullshit artist.

01:31:45.000 And I'm listening to what he had to say about inflammation and all the issues that he had dealt with, like acid reflux or what was it?

01:31:52.000 I listen to that show.

01:31:53.000 IBS. And also joint pain, arthritis.

01:31:58.000 I'm telling you, that is the interesting thing.

01:32:00.000 I think I talked about this before the podcast, but when I get out of bed, I don't have any aches and pains anymore.

01:32:05.000 I would get out of bed and I'd be like, oh, my fucking back.

01:32:08.000 And I'd have to loosen up, and I would do all these exercises and shit before my body started feeling loose again.

01:32:14.000 I'd have to get my back moving, I'd get blood circulation.

01:32:17.000 And then once things started circulating, the aches would kind of slowly go away.

01:32:21.000 I don't have any aches.

01:32:22.000 I get up, I have nothing.

01:32:24.000 I just get up.

01:32:25.000 And it took me a while to realize that.

01:32:27.000 I would go, oh, it's gone.

01:32:29.000 Have you ever tried fasting before?

01:32:31.000 No, but I do intermittent fasting now.

01:32:33.000 Me too.

01:32:33.000 So I eat at 9 o'clock at night, right?

01:32:35.000 And then I don't do anything until my workout.

01:32:37.000 My workout is like 10 o'clock in the morning, and then I work out, and then I eat after my workout.

01:32:42.000 So for, you know, 11 hours or 12 hours or so, I'm not eating shit.

01:32:48.000 See, on Sundays, I usually fast.

01:32:50.000 I stop eating Saturday night at usually 7. I won't eat until the next day to 7. 24 hours.

01:32:56.000 I like it, too.

01:32:58.000 You have a good meal at 9 o'clock.

01:33:00.000 You finish somewhere around 10. And then you let all that shit digest and then take that time off.

01:33:06.000 And then when you wake up at 9 or 10, do a hard cardio workout.

01:33:11.000 It kicks in your body's desire to burn fat.

01:33:14.000 You can also get away with eating some sugar.

01:33:15.000 I worked out damn near seven days a week.

01:33:18.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:33:19.000 So you'll burn a lot of that off.

01:33:21.000 Do you know what epi will?

01:33:22.000 I mean, you're not fat.

01:33:23.000 You know what epigenetics...

01:33:24.000 Thanks, man.

01:33:24.000 You know what epigenetics...

01:33:25.000 I think it's...

01:33:30.000 You needed that, like a hug.

01:33:32.000 Exactly.

01:33:32.000 Thanks, bro.

01:33:33.000 I was waiting for some of them.

01:33:34.000 That was the final sign.

01:33:37.000 You're obviously a very fit guy.

01:33:38.000 You don't have any issues as far as your appearance, but as far as the overall performance of your body, if you just wanted to give it a goof for your show, just to guide people through it for fun.

01:33:52.000 I've gotten all these tweets and Facebook messages from all these people that are trying to do it now.

01:33:56.000 I want to do something outlandish, though.

01:33:59.000 Cabbage diet for a month or something.

01:34:02.000 Hey, but that's not healthy.

01:34:03.000 What you should do is just try it.

01:34:06.000 Try no sugar.

01:34:07.000 I know.

01:34:08.000 Look, man, I'm telling you, I bought 10 bags of those fucking chili mango things back there and boxes of those sugary bars because I love them, you know, but I don't like them right now.

01:34:18.000 Like, that doesn't have any pull to me.

01:34:20.000 That's what's the most fascinating thing about this.

01:34:22.000 The bread...

01:34:23.000 Killed your craving.

01:34:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:34:24.000 I went to dinner the other day, and we're at this Italian restaurant with my family, and bread comes out, and it didn't mean shit to me.

01:34:30.000 Do you know what they find that this, from what I've read and heard, epigeneticists got people who study how you can turn genes on and off, right?

01:34:37.000 So that's a new science.

01:34:39.000 Do you know what one of the leading causes of inflammation is, which I thought was fascinating?

01:34:43.000 Your gums...

01:34:45.000 And the food that gets stuck between your gums will break down as bacteria and apparently goes into the bloodstream.

01:34:53.000 And they're finding that that has a...

01:34:55.000 First of all, they know that that kind of bacteria has a lot to do with your heart health.

01:34:59.000 But it also has a great deal to do with inflammation in the body, which is fascinating.

01:35:05.000 So that's why they say one of the most important things you can do is freeze.

01:35:09.000 Floss.

01:35:09.000 Ah, fuck that noise.

01:35:10.000 I know, but that's what this guy...

01:35:12.000 Do you floss?

01:35:13.000 That's what this guy said.

01:35:14.000 Not my friend.

01:35:14.000 You floss?

01:35:15.000 I do now since I heard that.

01:35:17.000 Fuck you.

01:35:17.000 You don't floss.

01:35:18.000 I do now since I heard it.

01:35:19.000 How many times have you flossed?

01:35:20.000 Floss pics.

01:35:21.000 Now that I've heard that since the past week, I do it twice a day.

01:35:24.000 I'm sorry, man.

01:35:25.000 I flossed a dozen times in my entire life on this planet.

01:35:27.000 I never go to the dentist either.

01:35:28.000 I flossed once and my gums bled so bad.

01:35:31.000 I like to pick at my gums.

01:35:32.000 I do like those things.

01:35:33.000 Yeah.

01:35:34.000 You know what I like?

01:35:34.000 I'll take those.

01:35:35.000 Water pics.

01:35:35.000 That's the shit.

01:35:36.000 Those are the shit.

01:35:37.000 I think that's better.

01:35:39.000 As you sleep, it breaks down and goes into the bloodstream.

01:35:43.000 And that bacteria apparently has a great deal to do with information.

01:35:47.000 That's why it's good to have a little gap tooth.

01:35:49.000 Get some gaps in your teeth.

01:35:50.000 Pull a couple teeth out.

01:35:51.000 No, you don't want that.

01:35:52.000 Pull a couple teeth out.

01:35:54.000 I used to have a thing for girls with gap teeth.

01:35:56.000 I'm not mad at that either.

01:35:57.000 It's pretty attractive.

01:35:58.000 I have a thing for girls.

01:35:59.000 I dated one.

01:36:02.000 You dated a Michael Strahan?

01:36:04.000 Yes.

01:36:05.000 And it's it's not you know, I'm just she was fucking gorgeous, but I think it's hot.

01:36:10.000 I think it's hot girls with a gap tooth.

01:36:12.000 I'm trying to think of the hottest girl that she was a Bellator girl Jay Bryce.

01:36:17.000 Oh perfect example.

01:36:19.000 Is that the girl?

01:36:21.000 Oh, my bad.

01:36:21.000 She's the only girl I know with a giant gap.

01:36:25.000 Yes, we were talking about it.

01:36:26.000 She's possibly the nicest person on the planet.

01:36:29.000 She's also one of the hottest people on the planet.

01:36:31.000 Yes, tooth or not.

01:36:33.000 There you go.

01:36:34.000 Powerful gap tooth.

01:36:35.000 Yeah, there's a lot of pretty women with gap tooth.

01:36:37.000 Lauren Hutton, remember that?

01:36:38.000 Old school model, movie star.

01:36:42.000 Powerful gap tooth.

01:36:43.000 She was like the poster girl.

01:36:44.000 When I was a kid, I remember seeing her.

01:36:46.000 There's some new girl now I see on billboards with just a fucking field golfy teeth.

01:36:50.000 I know who you're talking about.

01:36:51.000 You know who was interesting?

01:36:52.000 Yeah.

01:36:53.000 You know who was interesting?

01:36:54.000 There's Lauren Hutton.

01:36:54.000 God damn it.

01:36:55.000 You know what?

01:36:55.000 That's too much.

01:36:56.000 Powerful gap tooth.

01:36:57.000 The show back when she was hot and young.

01:36:59.000 I don't want to see some old pictures.

01:37:00.000 Look at her.

01:37:00.000 She looks like fucking Willy Wonka now.

01:37:03.000 Where's the gap tooth?

01:37:04.000 There it is.

01:37:04.000 Bam, son.

01:37:05.000 There's my girl right there.

01:37:06.000 Look at that gap tooth.

01:37:07.000 That's a nice gap.

01:37:07.000 She's lucky she has them eyes.

01:37:09.000 She's beautiful.

01:37:10.000 She's good.

01:37:11.000 Did you guys pay attention to the controversy?

01:37:13.000 Boy, we're really breaking down these fights.

01:37:15.000 Did you guys pay attention to the controversy that these models were complaining about this oversized model or plus-sized model?

01:37:23.000 Sorry, I said oversized.

01:37:24.000 Sorry.

01:37:26.000 Oversized model.

01:37:27.000 I said it again.

01:37:28.000 Not my size, just a different size.

01:37:29.000 On the cover of Sports Illustrated.

01:37:30.000 Dude, she's the hottest one.

01:37:32.000 Well, they were saying these models were bitching.

01:37:36.000 Rhonda's the middle.

01:37:37.000 And they were saying that it's not healthy.

01:37:38.000 Oh, fuck off.

01:37:39.000 What she's doing is not healthy.

01:37:41.000 What?

01:37:42.000 Yeah.

01:37:42.000 Because a bitch likes a t-bone?

01:37:44.000 And these other girls don't eat?

01:37:45.000 Guys don't like skinny girls.

01:37:47.000 Only other skinny models like that.

01:37:48.000 I like a girl, I gotta use ya.

01:37:49.000 But I only weigh 125 pounds, I know.

01:37:52.000 But I like skinny girls.

01:37:53.000 What do you walk around at?

01:37:54.000 What's your walk around weight?

01:37:55.000 45, 50. Okay, there she is in the middle.

01:37:57.000 That girl in the middle ain't for you, Creepy.

01:37:58.000 She's delicious.

01:37:59.000 She's got some giant ta-tas.

01:38:01.000 Yeah, let me see more of her.

01:38:03.000 Is there more of her?

01:38:04.000 Well, she's the one, by the way, that is not wearing fucking body paint.

01:38:08.000 That girl on the left, though.

01:38:10.000 They might have put body paint on Rhonda.

01:38:13.000 You can't put body paint on them giant ta-tas.

01:38:15.000 You can't come light in the ass, either.

01:38:17.000 That girl's hot as fuck.

01:38:18.000 You must come correct.

01:38:19.000 She's pretty.

01:38:19.000 Jesus Christ, she's beautiful.

01:38:21.000 Come correct.

01:38:22.000 Alright, now we gotta slow down.

01:38:25.000 We gotta chill out, because those hips...

01:38:27.000 I like her.

01:38:27.000 Well, it's the legs and the hips.

01:38:29.000 Meanwhile...

01:38:30.000 All this young lady needs to do is a rigorous strength and conditioning program for a couple weeks.

01:38:35.000 Eat healthy.

01:38:36.000 Okay, well, we just got a little ridiculous here.

01:38:38.000 Is that her back there?

01:38:39.000 Her face is beautiful.

01:38:41.000 Obviously, she fluctuates.

01:38:42.000 She's super hot, yeah.

01:38:43.000 I like her body.

01:38:44.000 I like it.

01:38:44.000 I see that there.

01:38:45.000 It's perfect.

01:38:46.000 That's perfect.

01:38:46.000 Is that her?

01:38:47.000 Yeah.

01:38:48.000 Okay, right there is perfect.

01:38:49.000 She fluctuates, obviously.

01:38:50.000 Her midsection looks like mine.

01:38:52.000 I don't mind.

01:38:53.000 I'm not mad.

01:38:54.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:38:55.000 Out of those three girls...

01:38:57.000 I bet she has no problem dealing with the shob.

01:39:02.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:39:03.000 You can't over-fuck her.

01:39:06.000 Oh, I agree.

01:39:06.000 She's ready.

01:39:08.000 She's not like, ow, ow, ow.

01:39:13.000 You can't go hard enough.

01:39:14.000 Slow it up.

01:39:15.000 She's your ocean.

01:39:16.000 She's going to get you in full garden.

01:39:17.000 She is your ocean.

01:39:19.000 Dude, her face is beautiful.

01:39:21.000 She's gorgeous.

01:39:21.000 She's your ocean, buddy.

01:39:22.000 There's a lot of variety in the photos of her.

01:39:25.000 Like, some of her where she looks perfect, and some of her where she's obviously a little indulgent.

01:39:29.000 You know what's going to be true?

01:39:29.000 How old is she?

01:39:30.000 I guess in her early 20s?

01:39:32.000 When she's 40, I don't know if that's a fun scene.

01:39:34.000 Well, there's no such thing as one of these models that's in any...

01:39:38.000 What does she weigh?

01:39:39.000 How old is she?

01:39:40.000 She's 87. 29. 29. Okay.

01:39:44.000 There's no such thing as these models when they're 40. They don't exist.

01:39:46.000 Especially the plus size ones.

01:39:48.000 How dare you?

01:39:48.000 Not the plus size ones.

01:39:49.000 No, they just don't exist.

01:39:51.000 Nobody wants to see it.

01:39:52.000 Cindy Crawford's still doing the damn thing.

01:39:53.000 We've been over this.

01:39:55.000 But that thick chick, good for you, girl.

01:39:56.000 There's a very few of them, man.

01:39:58.000 But Cindy, that's a full-time job.

01:39:59.000 She's on it all day with creams and antioxidant lotions and rubbing fucking...

01:40:04.000 Loofers all over her face.

01:40:06.000 Hadn't had a car in 20 years.

01:40:08.000 She's rubbing sand over her face, smoothing it out.

01:40:10.000 It's exhausting.

01:40:12.000 Exhausting like that.

01:40:12.000 It's so fucking tiring.

01:40:14.000 There's a sandstorm.

01:40:15.000 Hurry up.

01:40:15.000 I gotta run.

01:40:15.000 I gotta go for a jog.

01:40:16.000 Yeah, she probably sees fat, ugly chicks.

01:40:18.000 She's like, I wish.

01:40:19.000 Who's the girl who's in Body Heat?

01:40:22.000 Kathleen?

01:40:23.000 Turner.

01:40:24.000 She was smoking when she was young.

01:40:26.000 And she became an alcoholic.

01:40:27.000 Let me see this chick, Jamie.

01:40:29.000 She became like a balloon animal.

01:40:32.000 She drank a lot.

01:40:33.000 She became a...

01:40:34.000 She blew the fuck up?

01:40:35.000 Well, not only that, she had that balloon, that drunk face where something happens to your nose.

01:40:41.000 Yeah.

01:40:41.000 Your nose gets really big.

01:40:42.000 You're broadened out.

01:40:43.000 Okay, first of all, look at where when she was upper left corner, please.

01:40:46.000 Look at that.

01:40:47.000 Dude, she was so hot when she was young.

01:40:49.000 That Body Heat movie, that was 1981, by the way.

01:40:52.000 A lot of nostril there.

01:40:53.000 A lot of nostril.

01:40:54.000 If we get her to bring her face down.

01:40:55.000 She's sniffing cock.

01:40:56.000 There you go.

01:40:58.000 She had a real husky, sexy voice.

01:41:01.000 This mic smells like shit.

01:41:04.000 Can these things change?

01:41:05.000 Can I take these off?

01:41:06.000 They don't come off.

01:41:08.000 Ew!

01:41:09.000 At least it's yours.

01:41:11.000 I'm just upset that I've been talking to people.

01:41:14.000 This is what's been coming out of my mouth.

01:41:15.000 I feel rude.

01:41:17.000 How was brushing your teeth this morning with dog shit?

01:41:22.000 I'm not crazy about this, Jerk.

01:41:23.000 This is a really hot girl from 1981. If you saw her at the gym today, you'd be like, how about be here more often?

01:41:31.000 How about be here more often?

01:41:33.000 She's a hell of an actress.

01:41:34.000 I want to see her now, Jamie.

01:41:37.000 Well, the bodies that women have today are just better.

01:41:40.000 Because they're better for what I like.

01:41:43.000 I like a gal who looks athletic.

01:41:46.000 That's what I like.

01:41:47.000 I like girls, like CrossFit girls.

01:41:49.000 Like, look at her now.

01:41:49.000 She did a lot of drinking.

01:41:51.000 And smoking with your voice.

01:41:53.000 Jesus Christ, why?

01:41:54.000 She did a lot of drinking, man.

01:41:56.000 And women are like, that's what a real woman looks like, you fucking asshole!

01:42:03.000 That's what a real...

01:42:04.000 Nah, man.

01:42:05.000 She's 50 fucking years old, you piece of shit!

01:42:09.000 That's a lot of booze.

01:42:10.000 Meanwhile, Cindy Crawford is 52. Yeah.

01:42:13.000 Brinkley?

01:42:14.000 Yeah.

01:42:14.000 Christy Brinkley's 90. Hot as fuck.

01:42:17.000 She's 150 years old.

01:42:19.000 150!

01:42:19.000 And we'd all fuck her.

01:42:20.000 Fucking Crypt Keeper.

01:42:21.000 I would fuck her after you guys fucked her.

01:42:22.000 How about that?

01:42:23.000 I'm gonna pretend.

01:42:24.000 That's her when she was in that movie Body Heat.

01:42:27.000 Great movie.

01:42:28.000 I just don't understand.

01:42:29.000 Maybe she got money and said, fuck it.

01:42:31.000 No, she drank.

01:42:32.000 I think it's booze.

01:42:33.000 And cigarettes, because with that voice, she smokes a lot of cigarettes.

01:42:36.000 She had a serious drinking problem.

01:42:37.000 Did she stop?

01:42:38.000 I don't know, but I know she talks about it.

01:42:40.000 Maybe she had a blast, got some money, started smoking, got fat as fuck, eating catberry eggs.

01:42:44.000 I'm not mad at it.

01:42:45.000 Maybe she just got tired of getting dick.

01:42:47.000 She's like, I gotta keep the dick away.

01:42:48.000 It's exhausting.

01:42:49.000 I think she might be gay, in fact.

01:42:52.000 I don't know why I'm saying that.

01:42:53.000 You just think everybody's gay today.

01:42:55.000 Yeah, I know.

01:42:56.000 How dare you?

01:42:56.000 I like to spread rumors.

01:42:57.000 Yeah, how dare you do about Ky Green?

01:42:59.000 Ky Green's in Venice a lot.

01:43:00.000 He's gonna fuck you up.

01:43:02.000 And by fuck you up, I mean he's gonna fuck you, yeah.

01:43:05.000 Like he fucked that grapefruit.

01:43:07.000 In a straight way.

01:43:08.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

01:43:10.000 Yeah, I just don't...

01:43:11.000 I mean, I think also the pressure of being a hot chick, I think it's overwhelming.

01:43:17.000 I think after a while they just get...

01:43:18.000 I mean, speaking from personal experience, my days as a hot chick...

01:43:22.000 I just think it's overwhelming for those girls.

01:43:24.000 Like, to imagine your entire existence is based entirely on people wanting to fuck you.

01:43:28.000 You're defined on symmetry and...

01:43:30.000 Guys just sending mental dick missiles at your face all day long.

01:43:33.000 Dude, I used to work out at this gym where...

01:43:35.000 I won't say your name.

01:43:36.000 I like that noise.

01:43:37.000 A very famous...

01:43:38.000 Mental dick missiles is pretty funny.

01:43:41.000 Yeah, it's ridiculous.

01:43:42.000 A famous female celebrity would work out there, and she would go in the shower before me, But the paparazzi was waiting for her outside.

01:43:50.000 She was in there for maybe damn near two hours.

01:43:52.000 We'd come out in full makeup ready.

01:43:54.000 Because there's so much pressure.

01:43:56.000 Because people were just taking pictures all the time.

01:43:57.000 Yeah, it's hard, man.

01:43:58.000 It felt bad for her, man.

01:43:59.000 It's hard.

01:44:00.000 Renee Zellweger said that she moved to New York because when she'd get out to put gas in her car, if she brushed her nose, they'd take a picture and it looked like she was picking her nose.

01:44:11.000 She just was followed everywhere.

01:44:13.000 She was like, I'm going to New York to live there.

01:44:16.000 And by the way, for a girl like that, whenever I'm around him, I have to say by the way.

01:44:21.000 That's contagious as fuck.

01:44:22.000 For sure.

01:44:23.000 When I'm around him, I say for sure.

01:44:25.000 When I'm around you, I say by the way.

01:44:27.000 It's just exhausting to be one of those ladies.

01:44:32.000 And she also had to get a fuckload of plastic surgery.

01:44:36.000 I mean, she didn't have to, but she did.

01:44:38.000 She tried to keep up, man.

01:44:39.000 It's a fucking dog race if you're a hot chick.

01:44:42.000 It's not good.

01:44:43.000 It's not good.

01:44:44.000 It's rough.

01:44:45.000 You have an expiration date, too, pretty much.

01:44:47.000 I mean, that's going away.

01:44:49.000 Well, Patty Jenkins, you know, our friend who directed Wonder Woman now...

01:44:52.000 She said, if you want to be humiliated, be a woman, a female actor in her late 30s, early 40s.

01:44:59.000 You know, when you start to lose, quote unquote, your delicious, as Katharine Hepburn said, you become invisible.

01:45:04.000 Oh, you won three Oscars?

01:45:05.000 Awesome.

01:45:06.000 We'll see you later.

01:45:07.000 There really aren't any parts for you.

01:45:08.000 It's tough, man.

01:45:09.000 Even Anne Hathaway talked about that.

01:45:10.000 She said she was the young girl getting the parts and now she's not getting them.

01:45:13.000 She's like, I get it.

01:45:14.000 It's the business, man.

01:45:15.000 There's 19-year-olds taking my job.

01:45:17.000 She's like, I used to be that 19-year-old.

01:45:18.000 Yeah, but here's the thing.

01:45:19.000 I can't get a job playing a black basketball player because I'm not a black basketball player.

01:45:27.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:45:28.000 I can't get a job playing Jackie Chan's brother because I don't look like I'd be Jackie Chan's brother.

01:45:33.000 If you want a job...

01:45:35.000 As a hot chick, you have to be a hot chick.

01:45:39.000 When you are no longer a hot chick, you're going to have to get a job as a hot chick's mom.

01:45:44.000 That's not sexism.

01:45:46.000 That's called reality.

01:45:47.000 What the fuck did you do to get famous in the first place?

01:45:51.000 You got the genetic lottery.

01:45:52.000 You're mad?

01:45:53.000 The genetic lottery has an expiration date?

01:45:56.000 Oh my god, I feel so bad.

01:45:58.000 It's so hard for women in this business.

01:46:00.000 It's pretty fucking easy for you to slip in the door.

01:46:02.000 All you have to do is have good features.

01:46:04.000 It's also hard for guys in this business.

01:46:05.000 This business is ridiculous!

01:46:07.000 It's hard for everyone.

01:46:08.000 The business is, who wants to fuck you?

01:46:12.000 Does no one want to fuck you?

01:46:14.000 Well, we're going to find someone we want to fuck.

01:46:16.000 I lost the part because my manager called me and he goes, you want me to be honest?

01:46:19.000 I go, what?

01:46:19.000 He goes, they just said you weren't TV good looking enough.

01:46:21.000 I was like, that makes sense.

01:46:23.000 I agree with that.

01:46:23.000 That's reality, man.

01:46:25.000 That's reality.

01:46:25.000 It's not true.

01:46:27.000 Well, it's not true.

01:46:28.000 It depends on what they were trying to pitch.

01:46:30.000 Well, if they're trying to cast you as the 30-something single guy, yeah, probably not.

01:46:34.000 If you were like a guy on Lost with a plane crashed and you were fairly rugged and you took care of some older women and they wanted to fuck you.

01:46:41.000 Yes.

01:46:42.000 You're the guy.

01:46:43.000 Yes.

01:46:44.000 You know how to make a fire with a stick.

01:46:47.000 My buddy Frank Grillo, the greatest guy in the world, called me up.

01:46:49.000 He'd be like, dude, you've got to get on this audition.

01:46:51.000 And I would call my agent and bitch.

01:46:53.000 And finally my agent, David Letterman, goes, Brian, he just stopped me.

01:46:57.000 He goes, Brian, you have to stop calling me about the auditions Frank Grillo goes on.

01:47:03.000 And I said, why?

01:47:03.000 He goes, because you don't look like Frank Grillo.

01:47:05.000 You're not his casting.

01:47:07.000 You could play his friend, but you don't have his hair or his look.

01:47:10.000 And he just, he got mad at me.

01:47:12.000 I was like, you know what?

01:47:13.000 You're absolutely right.

01:47:14.000 That's just how it goes.

01:47:15.000 That's how it goes.

01:47:16.000 And you can't get upset at that because that's, you got in just as easy.

01:47:20.000 You didn't get a goddamn PhD to be a hot chick.

01:47:22.000 Right.

01:47:22.000 You know, it's not like you fucking scoured the world and busted your ass 16 hours a day going through doctorate...

01:47:30.000 Your dissertation and fucking writing books.

01:47:33.000 No!

01:47:34.000 You're just a pretty girl who knows how to pretend.

01:47:36.000 For you to be upset that people don't care about you because you turned 40. Well, guess what?

01:47:41.000 You're in the wrong goddamn business.

01:47:43.000 They're not going to care about you when you're dead either.

01:47:45.000 And you're going to die.

01:47:46.000 So there's a certain reality to the expiration date of the occupation that you've chosen.

01:47:51.000 That's what you've signed up for.

01:47:52.000 Sports too.

01:47:54.000 And this is not the fucking business's responsibility.

01:47:57.000 You know, I mean, I was friends with a guy who was Asian, who was always complaining.

01:48:02.000 About the lack of Asian roles in Hollywood.

01:48:05.000 Yeah, legit point.

01:48:05.000 And I was like, well, okay.

01:48:06.000 But they don't have to write a movie about Asian people.

01:48:10.000 They're like, well, it's a closed system.

01:48:12.000 Well, okay.

01:48:13.000 You've got to figure out a way through the system.

01:48:16.000 There's a certain way that has to be available to someone to get a gig.

01:48:22.000 And they shouldn't have to cast you just because there's no Asian people in their movie.

01:48:28.000 That's going on in Hollywood.

01:48:29.000 For example, like the black issue in Hollywood.

01:48:32.000 Look, black people take up, what, 12% of the population in this country.

01:48:36.000 There are a lot of very talented black people, as there are a lot of very talented white people.

01:48:39.000 But the bottom line is, money-wise, you know, there's more money in making sort of movies that are geared maybe toward a white populace only because that's the economics.

01:48:51.000 There are a whole lot more audience members that are white who And the infrastructure, yes, is already fairly white, so it's going to take some time.

01:49:00.000 But to mandate or to kind of scold Hollywood because there aren't enough vehicles or roles for black people or Asian people, it seems to me to be a little bit disingenuous.

01:49:14.000 I understand the frustration, but come on, man.

01:49:17.000 At the end of the day, it's reflective of demographics.

01:49:20.000 Isn't it?

01:49:21.000 Isn't it reflective of the fact that 12% of the population are African American?

01:49:25.000 Yeah.

01:49:26.000 Most of this country is still white?

01:49:28.000 And it's still a business.

01:49:29.000 And it's still a business.

01:49:30.000 I went on an audition a couple months ago.

01:49:33.000 Went great.

01:49:33.000 It was between me and one other guy, and the other guy was African American.

01:49:36.000 My agent called me and goes, man, you did great.

01:49:39.000 They think you're better, but...

01:49:42.000 They're gonna go with the...

01:49:44.000 They think you're better?

01:49:45.000 Yeah.

01:49:45.000 They think you're better, but they're gonna go with African American for this.

01:49:47.000 Because they want diversity.

01:49:48.000 Because they don't want to get people upset at them.

01:49:50.000 First of all, that's a fact.

01:49:51.000 First of all, there's a quota.

01:49:52.000 So it's effective.

01:49:53.000 If you're casting a movie, I mean a TV show now, it is a fact, and I just know this, that you have to cast a certain number of people of quote-unquote color.

01:50:04.000 That is a lot of pressure.

01:50:07.000 But you don't have to.

01:50:07.000 You don't have to.

01:50:08.000 But if you want to avoid criticism, and that's one of the reasons why this criticism exists.

01:50:14.000 It's essentially like an affirmative action for acting.

01:50:17.000 It's in the NFL, too.

01:50:18.000 You know if you're hiring a head coach in the NFL, you have to interview a black coach?

01:50:21.000 You have to.

01:50:22.000 It's required you have to interview a black coach.

01:50:25.000 So you might have six white guys, and you're like, fuck, the sixth one's really good.

01:50:29.000 I know, but you've got to put in this inferior black guy.

01:50:31.000 We have to do it.

01:50:32.000 They're trying to equalize the playing field and create equality of opportunity, which is a good thing.

01:50:37.000 I just don't know if that's the best way to do it.

01:50:39.000 Well, what is the best way to do it?

01:50:41.000 The best way to do it is to meritocracy and create opportunities for people of all ilks and all colors earlier.

01:50:50.000 Nurture various cultures.

01:50:52.000 Nurture the idea that, hey, instead of taking this path, maybe there's another path.

01:50:57.000 I'd love to see more black scientists and doctors over more black actors and things like that.

01:51:08.000 Yeah, but you can't encourage people to do what they want to do.

01:51:11.000 The way you do it is you nurture those communities when they're still young and create possibilities there.

01:51:16.000 I'm under the line, the best guys should get the job.

01:51:18.000 I don't care.

01:51:18.000 Black, white, Indian, it doesn't matter.

01:51:20.000 Yeah, I think that's true too, but I also think we've got to figure out why those people aren't getting opportunities.

01:51:27.000 Like, what is it?

01:51:28.000 That's the answer.

01:51:29.000 That's the question.

01:51:30.000 They're not born with the same opportunity.

01:51:32.000 Yeah, they're not born with the same opportunity.

01:51:34.000 They're given a shitty deal as far as like their hand...

01:51:37.000 That they're dealt at birth.

01:51:39.000 That's a fact.

01:51:40.000 You've got to fix the hand.

01:51:42.000 Yes, but also, keep in mind, first of all, you talk about black people, gay people, white people, it's so ridiculous.

01:51:48.000 We're very different.

01:51:49.000 A black person from Nigeria- Did you mix black people and gay people?

01:51:52.000 How dare you.

01:51:52.000 A black person from Nigeria is very different than a black guy who grew up in South Carolina.

01:51:56.000 It's just a completely different culture and everything.

01:51:58.000 The African immigrant experience in this country Is not so different from a lot of other immigrant experiences.

01:52:08.000 So culture plays a factor in where people start and end as well.

01:52:14.000 We don't talk enough about that.

01:52:16.000 It's very taboo to suggest maybe your culture, if you're a white guy from the Appalachian Mountains, Isn't as effective for this marketplace as the culture of a Northeastern white guy.

01:52:29.000 Maybe your culture, if you come from a black Mississippi, a black Mississippi neighborhood, or where Dada 5000 is from, in that documentary.

01:52:39.000 It's from Florida.

01:52:40.000 That's a racist count.

01:52:41.000 I'm saying, I'm saying, dog white in Florida.

01:52:43.000 Let me guess, it's chicken?

01:52:44.000 But that culture, you have to say, what are the deficits in that culture compared to the advantages of being a black Kenyan or a black Nigerian that seems to work in this marketplace?

01:52:54.000 Let's start talking about that.

01:52:55.000 If you don't want to have a discussion about that, maybe you don't care enough about the problems.

01:52:58.000 I don't know what you just said, so I can't really agree.

01:52:59.000 What I'm saying is that culture plays a factor.

01:53:01.000 You left me at Dada was born in Ohio.

01:53:03.000 The way you solve the problem is look at how kids are raised.

01:53:05.000 Start there.

01:53:07.000 Well, I think for sure we have a problem in this country where there's communities where people are growing up where it's just despair.

01:53:16.000 Despair and crime, Baltimore, Detroit.

01:53:20.000 I mean, you can keep going down the list of terrible...

01:53:26.000 We have to help these Syrian refugees.

01:53:33.000 We have to help people in Detroit, too, man.

01:53:36.000 You know, help people.

01:53:37.000 People are, but you're also dealing with a legacy.

01:53:41.000 That's where racism is a legacy.

01:53:43.000 Baltimore.

01:53:44.000 Well, black people were redlined.

01:53:45.000 Well, I had this guy Michael Wood on, who was a cop in Baltimore.

01:53:48.000 That was a good one.

01:53:49.000 Great fucking guy.

01:53:50.000 Hell yeah.

01:53:51.000 Super articulate and smart.

01:53:52.000 He's actually running for the head of police of Chicago right now.

01:53:57.000 Definitely going to win.

01:53:58.000 Well, I hope he wins, because he's got the right idea, and he was a cop, and he's a fucking super honest guy.

01:54:03.000 But he said that the way Baltimore was set up, you literally couldn't sell black people houses in white neighborhoods.

01:54:10.000 That's right.

01:54:10.000 It's called being redlined.

01:54:11.000 In every community, why is there a black ghetto in almost every community?

01:54:15.000 That's a bad part of town.

01:54:16.000 What a coincidence it's black.

01:54:17.000 You couldn't get a loan for a house unless it was in within these lines.

01:54:22.000 That's how it was.

01:54:23.000 That's what you call institutionalized racism.

01:54:25.000 And the people that were living there, they didn't own those houses.

01:54:28.000 They were renting.

01:54:29.000 You know what's weird is there's really no, if you think about it, just to go back to what we're originally supposed to be talking about, if you go back to it, there's really no black female fighters.

01:54:40.000 Angela Hill.

01:54:41.000 Okay.

01:54:42.000 Who was mad at me, by the way.

01:54:44.000 At 135 is none.

01:54:46.000 For saying fried chicken.

01:54:47.000 She made a Twitter post, says this is what she hears, and she had a clip of me from my 2005 Showtime special where I said there's three magic words.

01:54:59.000 Love, cunt, and nigger.

01:55:01.000 Those are the three magic words.

01:55:03.000 And the last one, you can't even say it out loud.

01:55:06.000 Not even calling somebody it.

01:55:07.000 You can't even say it out loud.

01:55:08.000 If you say it out loud, people could beat the fuck out of you.

01:55:10.000 For sure.

01:55:11.000 I mean, that was the point of the bit.

01:55:12.000 So she took an excerpt of that and she said, this is what I hear when he says that.

01:55:17.000 And so she was super upset.

01:55:19.000 That's disappointing.

01:55:20.000 It is disappointing.

01:55:21.000 Disappointing.

01:55:21.000 I'm saying, at 135, like, there's not a lot of African Americans fighting in the UFC in the female division.

01:55:26.000 No, there's not.

01:55:27.000 And there's some beast that...

01:55:28.000 Especially women.

01:55:29.000 But if you think about it, there's some beast African-American women.

01:55:32.000 It's a new sport.

01:55:33.000 Fucking monsters.

01:55:34.000 Wait till they get into it.

01:55:35.000 Wait till you have two little Serena Williams sisters who are like, maybe you guys should fight.

01:55:39.000 See ya, everybody.

01:55:40.000 See ya.

01:55:41.000 They are fucking athletes.

01:55:42.000 There's my cryo lady.

01:55:45.000 What do you mean they?

01:55:46.000 Black people.

01:55:47.000 Black people.

01:55:48.000 Okay.

01:55:49.000 She's white, but her kids are black.

01:55:52.000 And her daughter looks like Venus and Serena.

01:55:54.000 She's 15. And hey, we should play tennis together.

01:55:57.000 Fuck you.

01:55:58.000 How fast do you serve?

01:56:00.000 She goes, oh, like a little over 100. I'm like, why the fuck would I want you serving a ball at me in 100 miles?

01:56:05.000 Make her play tennis with Callan.

01:56:06.000 Callan is a fucking stud.

01:56:08.000 He takes lessons.

01:56:10.000 We're the pro.

01:56:11.000 Show fuck you just like that bodybuilder guy.

01:56:13.000 I go...

01:56:14.000 And when I back and I go...

01:56:18.000 That's a long one.

01:56:19.000 And when I serve, I go...

01:56:22.000 Eat my dick?

01:56:23.000 That's a good thing to say.

01:56:24.000 I lose a lot though.

01:56:25.000 Did this motherfucker just say eat my dick?

01:56:27.000 I lose a lot though.

01:56:28.000 Flies right by you.

01:56:29.000 Eat a dick!

01:56:29.000 Did he just say eat my dick?

01:56:32.000 Yeah, but wait till African-American girls go, you know what?

01:56:35.000 We can kind of make money in this fight game.

01:56:37.000 All the white girls are fucked.

01:56:38.000 A lot of Russian and a lot of Polish, like, you know, Ioana, Jacek, and there's a lot of Muay Thai in Europe and in Russia, and I think a lot of those athletes are going to leak into MMA. You know, Ioana's going to Muscle Farm.

01:56:55.000 Is she?

01:56:56.000 She's doing some of her camp at Muscle Farm.

01:56:57.000 That's great.

01:56:58.000 I would also suggest that black being a super whatever athlete is a black...

01:57:04.000 There's only one black champion right now, right?

01:57:06.000 You got Luke Rockhold.

01:57:08.000 You got Jon Jones.

01:57:09.000 Daniel Cormier is the current champion.

01:57:12.000 Oh, that's right.

01:57:13.000 I don't know why you keep saying Jon Jones.

01:57:14.000 Okay.

01:57:15.000 And then you've got, really, let's say, Jon Jones.

01:57:17.000 Then you've got, in the heavyweight division, it's Fabrizio Verdum.

01:57:21.000 Then you've got Robbie Lawler, who's Filipino and white.

01:57:24.000 And then you've got, at 55, Dos Anjos.

01:57:27.000 Why was he Filipino and white?

01:57:29.000 Yes.

01:57:29.000 Why did I not know that?

01:57:30.000 Dos Anjos, then you've got...

01:57:31.000 So it's Mighty Mouse and Jon Jones.

01:57:33.000 That's it.

01:57:34.000 Yeah, Rafael Dos Anjos.

01:57:35.000 Well, Conor.

01:57:38.000 Yeah.

01:57:39.000 Yeah.

01:57:39.000 Mighty Mouse and Daniel.

01:57:41.000 Just the two.

01:57:41.000 You keep saying Jon Jones.

01:57:43.000 Daniel Cormier is the light heavyweight champion.

01:57:45.000 Yes, he is.

01:57:45.000 I apologize, Daniel.

01:57:46.000 He's a beast.

01:57:47.000 Kind of.

01:57:48.000 Because I watched Jon Jones beat the fuck out of him.

01:57:52.000 Well, he didn't beat the fuck out of him, but he beat him.

01:57:53.000 Oh, I disagree.

01:57:54.000 He broke him.

01:57:55.000 He won.

01:57:56.000 He definitely won.

01:57:57.000 He broke him.

01:57:57.000 When is that fight happening?

01:57:58.000 April 23rd, I think.

01:58:00.000 There's already billboards for it.

01:58:01.000 Tickets on sale now, I think.

01:58:03.000 What you calling that?

01:58:04.000 John Jones motivated and in shape power lifting is a dangerous motherfucker, but how much of this is BS? We don't know.

01:58:12.000 So he's bigger, stronger, faster with time off, and he already beat him before?

01:58:17.000 Well, also, it seems like he's on the straight and narrow, and he's training all the time.

01:58:22.000 It seems because he's posting to Instagram?

01:58:24.000 I don't know, because Arlovsky, this is the only reason why I question it all, Arlovsky said he's never in the gym.

01:58:31.000 Arlowski, you know, might just not like him.

01:58:33.000 Who's this?

01:58:33.000 This is John Jones?

01:58:34.000 Yeah.

01:58:35.000 When did he say that?

01:58:35.000 Recently.

01:58:36.000 They might be coming at different times.

01:58:38.000 Or Arlowski might have been quoted, but it might have been an older quote.

01:58:41.000 You know, he might have been, you know, talking about six months ago or four months ago.

01:58:45.000 Well, all I know is John with no camp, camp doesn't fucking matter.

01:58:49.000 This dude's beating people the fuck up.

01:58:51.000 Well, John in shape and motivated.

01:58:53.000 You know, it's interesting.

01:58:53.000 One of the things that he said that I think was really honest and intense, he said he used to always give himself an excuse for losing.

01:59:02.000 So, like, if I lost, I'd be like, well, I didn't even really train.

01:59:06.000 Wait till I train.

01:59:07.000 But he kept winning.

01:59:08.000 You know, he was saying that this fight, he's not doing that.

01:59:12.000 And this fight, he is, like, in some serious shape.

01:59:15.000 The powerlifting shit is no joke, man.

01:59:17.000 When you're watching him do all that powerlifting...

01:59:19.000 Didn't he deadlift some, like, 500 pounds?

01:59:20.000 Whatever it is, a lot.

01:59:22.000 But the point is, his body has obviously changed.

01:59:25.000 Like, he's been putting some serious work in.

01:59:27.000 There's no doubt about it.

01:59:28.000 You can see the physical results in his body.

01:59:30.000 He's bigger.

01:59:31.000 I just...

01:59:31.000 I don't...

01:59:32.000 And I love DC. You know this, DC. I love him.

01:59:34.000 I've worked on him a ton.

01:59:35.000 I just don't see DC having the skills to beat him.

01:59:38.000 I don't see it happening.

01:59:39.000 What would DC have to do differently?

01:59:40.000 Because he'd have to do something different.

01:59:42.000 Well, train with Kane.

01:59:43.000 That's the big one.

01:59:44.000 Well, he's out.

01:59:45.000 But Kane is injured.

01:59:46.000 Exactly.

01:59:47.000 Obviously, Kane...

01:59:47.000 Yeah, but Kane...

01:59:48.000 Doesn't matter.

01:59:49.000 Kane was a big part of his training camp.

01:59:52.000 And Kane...

01:59:53.000 Like, having Kane as...

01:59:54.000 Click on that fucking video of him kicking.

01:59:56.000 Go to that one right there.

01:59:57.000 Let me see that.

02:00:00.000 Let me see this.

02:00:01.000 Look how jacked he is.

02:00:02.000 He's in some serious shape.

02:00:03.000 I want to see his kicks.

02:00:05.000 Because that's a big part of his game, man.

02:00:08.000 God, dawg.

02:00:09.000 I can help him with that.

02:00:11.000 He's moving his front foot first.

02:00:12.000 I'm going to have to talk to him.

02:00:13.000 That's what you're supposed to do, Dobby.

02:00:14.000 You've got to step out, man.

02:00:15.000 You don't have to.

02:00:16.000 You can just turn your shoulders.

02:00:17.000 No, you turn your fucking front foot, man.

02:00:19.000 Don't ever give me kicking advice.

02:00:22.000 You don't have to do that because I can see you there.

02:00:24.000 You don't know what you're talking about.

02:00:25.000 I do know what I'm talking about.

02:00:25.000 I see it all the time.

02:00:26.000 No, you turn your front foot first.

02:00:28.000 It's the most important part of it.

02:00:29.000 You keep your body exactly the same.

02:00:31.000 Or you pivot on that foot when you go up on your heel and you can get a lot of power.

02:00:34.000 You guys don't want to have a kickoff.

02:00:35.000 I will 100% show you on a back.

02:00:38.000 Please let me show you on a back.

02:00:39.000 J.R.E. kickoff.

02:00:40.000 You'll see.

02:00:41.000 We'll go in the back after this.

02:00:42.000 We sure are.

02:00:44.000 He definitely could do this better, but what's important is that...

02:00:54.000 We know what DC brings, that crazy, relentless pace, boxing, wrestling.

02:00:59.000 What's he gonna do?

02:01:00.000 Start kicking?

02:01:01.000 What's he gonna do different?

02:01:02.000 I'd love to hear it.

02:01:03.000 And I love DC, but...

02:01:05.000 We don't know how much of all the shit-talking and the emotions and all that stuff played a factor in his preparation and his execution during the fight.

02:01:13.000 We don't know.

02:01:14.000 We won't know until we see them go at it again.

02:01:17.000 We don't know how much of a factor Kane would play Because Kane's not in his camp right now because Kane got injured training for...

02:01:23.000 So he's not there again.

02:01:24.000 Not there again.

02:01:26.000 And Kane had fucking back surgery, which is some serious shit.

02:01:30.000 He had a chunk of his disc removed.

02:01:32.000 Poor dude.

02:01:33.000 That sucks, man.

02:01:34.000 Well, it's also not necessarily necessary because Matt Brown went through the same injury and Matt Brown didn't bother getting a surgery and CM Punk went and got surgery too and I... I've been through it, and I didn't get surgery.

02:01:46.000 But that's where I got that machine, that reverse hyper that's in the back, all the yoga that I did, all the other different...

02:01:52.000 There's a bunch of different treatments that you could do to take care of a bulging disc, and they involve lengthening your body, stretching and decompressing your spine, and it heals.

02:02:01.000 It can heal itself.

02:02:02.000 Your body's supposed to be faster, right?

02:02:04.000 Yes, but it's also permanent, man.

02:02:06.000 You take away that chunk of disc, that chunk of disc is gone now, man.

02:02:09.000 It's gone.

02:02:10.000 Would they replace it, though, correct?

02:02:11.000 There's no replacing a discectomy.

02:02:14.000 What Kane went through, what he's got is a bulge, right?

02:02:17.000 I'm not a doctor.

02:02:18.000 I just want to say that real quick.

02:02:19.000 So here's his back, right?

02:02:21.000 Correct.

02:02:21.000 So here's his spinal column, and then he's got his discs right next to it.

02:02:25.000 Well, one of his bulging discs is pushing against his spine.

02:02:29.000 Damn.

02:02:29.000 Against his spinal column?

02:02:30.000 Like his...

02:02:31.000 His spine.

02:02:32.000 Jesus.

02:02:32.000 His actual spine.

02:02:33.000 That's where you get nerve pain.

02:02:34.000 Spinal cord.

02:02:35.000 That's why you have...

02:02:37.000 That's where sciatica comes from.

02:02:40.000 And for me, I had it both places.

02:02:42.000 I had a little bit of a sciatica at one point in time, and then I had it in my fingers.

02:02:45.000 The fingers was real bad, though, but that was cervical.

02:02:48.000 When it happens, they just go in there, they open you up, they cut that piece out, and then go back.

02:02:56.000 And so now it's not pressing up against you, but you've cut a chunk of your disc out, and you have less cushioning there.

02:03:04.000 Not necessarily.

02:03:05.000 Either way, that motherfucker's not back for DC. Exactly.

02:03:08.000 That's all I'm saying.

02:03:09.000 He's not going to be back.

02:03:10.000 He's not back for DC. Matt Brown fixed it, and Matt Brown fixed it with Louie Simmons, the same guy who created that reverse hyper.

02:03:17.000 He's in the Westside barbell.

02:03:18.000 I mean, he went through a bunch of exercises and a bunch of different things to fix it.

02:03:21.000 There's ways to fix it, depending upon, of course, how bad the injury is.

02:03:26.000 With some people, it's herniated to the point where they have to remove the disc tissue and either put a spacer in there or fuse the two discs together.

02:03:33.000 Spacer is generally thought to be...

02:03:36.000 The better move for athletics.

02:03:38.000 That's what I thought they did with Kane.

02:03:40.000 No.

02:03:41.000 They did a disectomy.

02:03:42.000 Because if they did a spacer, he's out for a long time.

02:03:44.000 Because there's no wrestling going on for a long ass time.

02:03:47.000 He's out for a while though, correct?

02:03:49.000 Just a few months.

02:03:50.000 I just can't believe that Jon Jones took...

02:03:57.000 He took him down the first round.

02:03:59.000 I never would have thought that was possible.

02:04:00.000 That's how strong he is, too.

02:04:03.000 Like Frank Mir said, he's wrestling with Jon Jones.

02:04:06.000 Nobody realizes how strong.

02:04:08.000 I would assume he's stronger now.

02:04:10.000 He's so crazy strong.

02:04:11.000 I don't know if it's leverage, but...

02:04:13.000 It's all the above.

02:04:14.000 He's also been wrestling.

02:04:15.000 He's also a Juco national champ.

02:04:17.000 He's also a fucking nightmare.

02:04:19.000 Didn't he cradle Ryan Bader?

02:04:20.000 Didn't he cradle him?

02:04:21.000 Was it Bader he did that to?

02:04:23.000 Where he just put him in a cradle and just...

02:04:25.000 He beat the shit out of Ryan.

02:04:26.000 I mean...

02:04:26.000 He literally beat the shit out of Ryan.

02:04:28.000 Didn't beat the shit out of the way Rumble did.

02:04:29.000 That was terrifying.

02:04:31.000 Yeah.

02:04:32.000 Rumble's terrifying.

02:04:33.000 He scares me more than anybody.

02:04:34.000 I want to see Rumble fight.

02:04:35.000 John Jones.

02:04:37.000 It's whether or not Rumble can continue that sort of attack.

02:04:40.000 You don't think John takes him down?

02:04:42.000 People are gonna figure it out.

02:04:44.000 They already have figured it out.

02:04:45.000 Well, Daniel did.

02:04:47.000 You avoid the big punch, drag him in the later rounds.

02:04:50.000 John's a technician.

02:04:51.000 Can a guy like him, can a guy like Rumble change?

02:04:55.000 He's obviously changed and gotten way better in avoiding the weight cut and becoming a real natural 205 pounder.

02:05:01.000 Can he change in as far as not being able to be broken the way DC broke him, the way Josh Koscheck broke him, the way Vitor Belfort broke him?

02:05:10.000 I don't think you're born with it, but it's a part of your personality.

02:05:13.000 So whether or not you allow your mind to go down those paths.

02:05:16.000 Sports psychologists could probably help you.

02:05:18.000 I disagree.

02:05:18.000 Maybe.

02:05:19.000 Maybe.

02:05:19.000 Is it possible?

02:05:20.000 I don't think so.

02:05:21.000 There have been examples.

02:05:23.000 But hold on a second.

02:05:24.000 Who's been broke?

02:05:25.000 How can you say it's not possible?

02:05:28.000 Because it's mental.

02:05:29.000 If it's mental, it's most certainly possible.

02:05:31.000 You don't think it's a personality trait?

02:05:32.000 It's not possible for me to win the high jump.

02:05:36.000 That's physically impossible.

02:05:38.000 For him, though, it's a mind issue.

02:05:42.000 Why couldn't a man adjust the way he looks at the world?

02:05:46.000 Isn't it possible that you could, through a rigorous, disciplined Like very focused attempt to change the way you approach various scenarios and dilemmas.

02:05:57.000 Isn't it possible that you could change your thinking and wouldn't that be more likely that you could become more mentally tough than it would be that you would be like this physical freak?

02:06:07.000 Because it's a physical thing and cardio brings out the weakness in people.

02:06:11.000 What are you going to do?

02:06:12.000 Are you going to put him through these crazy cardio challenges and have a mental coach there?

02:06:16.000 Now here's the point where you usually break.

02:06:18.000 Let's keep going.

02:06:18.000 Well, here's what I think.

02:06:19.000 First of all, I don't think he did nearly enough grappling before.

02:06:22.000 I think that was a big part of the issue.

02:06:24.000 Not even close.

02:06:24.000 He was getting mad-dogged by a guy who was an Olympic-caliber wrestler in Daniel Cormier.

02:06:29.000 He was just ragging him around.

02:06:31.000 I bet he did crazy wrestling.

02:06:33.000 No, he didn't.

02:06:34.000 I know he didn't.

02:06:35.000 Now, he's got Neil Melanson, who's a fucking giant.

02:06:39.000 Neil Melanson's huge.

02:06:39.000 One of the best in the world.

02:06:40.000 Grappling coaches in the world.

02:06:42.000 Grappler.

02:06:42.000 Might be the best.

02:06:43.000 Deep, deep, deep knowledge of submissions.

02:06:46.000 Also, a lot of catch.

02:06:47.000 He's really knowledgeable about catch wrestling.

02:06:50.000 Phenomenal.

02:06:50.000 Jesus.

02:06:51.000 Jiu-jitsu.

02:06:51.000 Brilliant.

02:06:52.000 But he also understands big man jiu-jitsu.

02:06:54.000 He's a big motherfucker.

02:06:55.000 And if you're rolling with that guy, I guarantee you're spending some time on your back.

02:06:58.000 He gave Randy Couture his black belt.

02:07:00.000 He's Randy Couture's coach forever.

02:07:01.000 What's his name?

02:07:02.000 Neil Melanson.

02:07:02.000 He's a stud.

02:07:03.000 This is how fucking crazy Neil Melanson.

02:07:05.000 You ready for this?

02:07:05.000 Neil Melanson had a broken toe.

02:07:07.000 They said, Neil, you're going to have to be off the mats for six months.

02:07:09.000 He goes, cut it off.

02:07:11.000 The Ronnie Lott did that, yeah.

02:07:13.000 Dude, he had his toe cut off so he could keep rolling.

02:07:17.000 Oh, no.

02:07:19.000 Come on, son.

02:07:20.000 He had a terribly broken toe.

02:07:24.000 Going back to the mental thing, with a mental coach, man, I think sometimes there's just...

02:07:30.000 I don't know, man.

02:07:30.000 I think some people, it's just in their DNA. They just break easier than others.

02:07:34.000 I don't think it's a DNA issue.

02:07:35.000 What I think it is, is it being a big, strong, tough guy and being used to being the hammer.

02:07:40.000 And then when you're the nail, you can't handle it and you fall apart because you're unaccustomed to it.

02:07:46.000 Rather than a guy like, here's a good example, Darren Elkins.

02:07:50.000 You can hit that motherfucker with a baseball bat and he keeps coming forward.

02:07:53.000 He's used to getting beat on.

02:07:54.000 He's not a big guy.

02:07:55.000 He's a tough guy.

02:07:55.000 John Jones isn't, though.

02:07:56.000 Look at him with Josephine.

02:07:58.000 John Jones is a stud.

02:07:59.000 Barely trained.

02:08:00.000 Was getting beat up.

02:08:01.000 Well, John Jones has two big brothers, and his bigger brother beat his ass all through his life, and I think he's accustomed to getting his ass beat by his big brother.

02:08:08.000 I think his brother Arthur did him a fantastic service in being bigger and kicking his ass all throughout his life.

02:08:13.000 That helps for sure.

02:08:14.000 Fuck yeah, it does.

02:08:15.000 I think it goes in two ways.

02:08:16.000 Either you're born with it, like you said, or some traumatic event in your life that maybe has something to do that maybe it doesn't, but it switches on that quit in your mind and your body.

02:08:29.000 Some of it's just mental, some of it's physical, your body gives out, or your brain gives out.

02:08:34.000 I think there's multiple ways to look at it.

02:08:35.000 Obviously, Vinny Shorman could fix him.

02:08:37.000 Yeah, Vinny Shorman's a hypnotist.

02:08:39.000 Shout out to my mind coach, Vinny.

02:08:42.000 That's what he calls himself, mind coach.

02:08:46.000 I think it can definitely be a learned behavior.

02:08:49.000 To quit.

02:08:50.000 Whether it's you got taught that, or you got that imposed on you, or someone made you break when you were young.

02:08:56.000 It's a habit.

02:08:56.000 When he was little.

02:08:57.000 There's a lot of ways to go about it.

02:08:59.000 I'm not saying something bad happened in his life.

02:09:02.000 Maybe it was something good that made him say, well, fuck this, I'm out.

02:09:05.000 You boys don't think at his level he's gotten a mental coach?

02:09:08.000 A lot of ways.

02:09:09.000 You don't think he's ever talked to a mental coach?

02:09:10.000 I'm sure he has.

02:09:10.000 There's a lot of fighters that have never gotten a mental coach.

02:09:12.000 I asked Cowboy about it, and he's like, shit.

02:09:16.000 Cowboy laughed in my face.

02:09:17.000 Yeah.

02:09:19.000 Catboy's never had a fucking mental coach.

02:09:21.000 Has he?

02:09:22.000 I don't think so.

02:09:23.000 Hold on.

02:09:23.000 Do you think Catboy's had a mental coach?

02:09:24.000 I don't know, man.

02:09:25.000 Why are you making that face?

02:09:26.000 I don't know.

02:09:27.000 You think he's a liar?

02:09:28.000 No.

02:09:28.000 How dare you?

02:09:29.000 Ian, when you're kind of against the ropes here, how do you talk to yourself?

02:09:35.000 Like, what do you do?

02:09:36.000 I'm my own worst enemy.

02:09:38.000 We all are.

02:09:39.000 I just fucking talk shit to myself.

02:09:42.000 It depends.

02:09:43.000 Sometimes I'm going in and I feel great, and some days I just sit there and I'm like, wow, I'm fucked.

02:09:47.000 Like going out for my last fight.

02:09:49.000 Sitting there, backstage, and just slumps in a chair.

02:09:52.000 Why?

02:09:53.000 I don't know.

02:09:54.000 This was after working with Vinny, though.

02:09:55.000 No, no, no.

02:09:56.000 I started working with Vinny after this.

02:09:58.000 And, you know, personal problems.

02:10:00.000 With me, it's always, like, women problems and shit like that.

02:10:02.000 Bitches and money.

02:10:03.000 Bitch?

02:10:03.000 How dare you let a girl affect your fighting?

02:10:05.000 Hey, I'm a pussy.

02:10:06.000 Hey, let me ask you this.

02:10:07.000 It's happened before.

02:10:08.000 It's going to happen again.

02:10:10.000 But I say this.

02:10:12.000 It's the same as any other job, and I'm sure with stand-up.

02:10:14.000 Some nights, and I felt this way, there's probably three fights.

02:10:17.000 Man, any other night, I'm down.

02:10:19.000 I just don't feel like fucking fighting tonight.

02:10:21.000 For whatever reason, I just don't feel like it.

02:10:23.000 Well, stand-up is way more relaxed.

02:10:26.000 I know.

02:10:26.000 I'm just saying for your job.

02:10:28.000 I'm sure there's nights when you're performing for a thousand people, you're like, damn, I really don't feel like doing that.

02:10:32.000 And it's usually the same thing.

02:10:34.000 It's usually a girl thing.

02:10:35.000 Like, you get in a fight with your girlfriend or something like that, and you go out there, you just don't feel funny.

02:10:40.000 I fuck up when I have an acting job.

02:10:42.000 This is gonna sound crazy, but sometimes when you have an audition, like think about this, and it's three pages.

02:10:46.000 It's just three pages.

02:10:47.000 You can do it in your sleep.

02:10:49.000 Guess what?

02:10:50.000 It's the network test.

02:10:52.000 You go in there, there are probably 15 people.

02:10:54.000 Showtime.

02:10:55.000 All you have to do is just do three pages.

02:10:57.000 I've gotten myself there.

02:10:58.000 It's between me and another guy.

02:10:59.000 If I get it, I will make a million dollars.

02:11:02.000 I will make one million dollars for the year and I won't have to work for it.

02:11:05.000 It's a sitcom.

02:11:06.000 I'll make a million dollars.

02:11:07.000 Just do what you did.

02:11:09.000 Just do three pages.

02:11:11.000 It's no big deal.

02:11:12.000 It's like, don't miss that putt.

02:11:14.000 That's when I get nervous.

02:11:15.000 That's when I fuck myself.

02:11:16.000 See, when I went out for news radio, there was two auditions for news radio.

02:11:21.000 One was a cattle call.

02:11:22.000 It was like 100 people.

02:11:23.000 It was a giant long line.

02:11:25.000 And I had a development deal with NBC, and I just didn't know that I was going to be a part of a cattle call.

02:11:30.000 I was like, this is crazy.

02:11:31.000 And I went in, and the script was not funny.

02:11:34.000 Like, on purpose.

02:11:35.000 They had decided to write it where they were going to weed out all the hams.

02:11:39.000 They didn't want anybody to read it like...

02:11:43.000 What am I supposed to do?

02:11:47.000 They wanted to weed out all that shit.

02:11:50.000 So I went in, I read it, and I remember I talked to my manager.

02:11:55.000 He's like, how'd it go?

02:11:55.000 I go, man, the script wasn't funny.

02:11:57.000 I mean, I just, I pretended it was really happening.

02:12:00.000 That's all I did.

02:12:00.000 I just did it like it was really happening.

02:12:02.000 And so then...

02:12:03.000 There was only a few people that apparently made the cut and then I went in there for the second audition It was me and three other dudes who looked like they were about to fucking ship off to Vietnam They were sweating and they were pale and you know, I was 26 at the time So I was only like four years removed from my last fight or something like that And I looked at all these guys all nervous and sweaty and I sat on the couch and And I put my feet up and I didn't even read the script.

02:12:33.000 I just sat back and I did it like in front of them.

02:12:36.000 What's up, bitch?

02:12:37.000 I was like, you fucking pussies.

02:12:39.000 You guys don't know how to perform under pressure.

02:12:42.000 I go, this is gonna be great.

02:12:43.000 Mind game.

02:12:43.000 And I sat there and I like looked at the script a little bit.

02:12:46.000 I'm like, shit.

02:12:47.000 And it was funny.

02:12:49.000 That's the way to do it.

02:12:49.000 And I had prepared so I knew that it was funny.

02:12:52.000 So I was ready.

02:12:54.000 But when I saw these guys all sweaty, it was like there was three or four guys I think, but they looked like they were just fucking terrified.

02:13:01.000 One guy was doing it.

02:13:03.000 He was like...

02:13:04.000 He was like practicing by himself.

02:13:07.000 I'm like, that bitch ain't getting it.

02:13:10.000 And I looked at the other guy.

02:13:11.000 The other guy looked like he was about to get shot.

02:13:14.000 They looked like they were about to die.

02:13:16.000 And so that alone gave me massive confidence.

02:13:20.000 And I went in there super loose.

02:13:22.000 Super loose and relaxed.

02:13:23.000 Because I'm like, if it's between me and these pussies, I'm like, I got it for sure.

02:13:27.000 And they can sense that confidence too.

02:13:29.000 That's the way to do it.

02:13:29.000 Well, I did it on purpose for the guys.

02:13:32.000 It was like I was competing against these guys.

02:13:34.000 I was like, I'm going to make these guys.

02:13:35.000 Fuck yeah.

02:13:35.000 That's a huge advantage.

02:13:36.000 But I never get, I don't get, I'm not nervous by nature.

02:13:39.000 I don't get nervous when I have to perform ever.

02:13:41.000 And that's the only time because my mind is telling myself it's so ridiculous to be nervous that I'm literally sabotaging myself.

02:13:48.000 It's not ridiculous to be nervous.

02:13:50.000 It's not ridiculous.

02:13:51.000 I don't know, man.

02:13:52.000 It means you care and you want to.

02:13:53.000 I don't do well when I'm nervous.

02:13:53.000 You're thinking about the wrong thing.

02:13:55.000 I'm thinking about the wrong thing.

02:13:56.000 You're not being in the moment.

02:13:58.000 You're thinking about the consequences.

02:13:59.000 They can't do that.

02:14:00.000 You're doing it for the wrong reason then.

02:14:01.000 Yeah, you're doing it for the wrong reason.

02:14:03.000 Because I don't want to act.

02:14:04.000 Then you shouldn't be there.

02:14:05.000 I know that.

02:14:06.000 I've never once gotten in the fight being like, God, the money I'm going to make or if I win.

02:14:09.000 I've never once ever in my life thought about it.

02:14:11.000 I think it's because I'm lying.

02:14:12.000 I think it's because I'm lying to myself when I go into those auditions.

02:14:15.000 I go all the way.

02:14:19.000 And then I get in there, and now I just do this, and I think it's because I'm being a liar.

02:14:24.000 You might be self-sabotaging yourself.

02:14:26.000 I am!

02:14:26.000 Because you don't want to be there.

02:14:27.000 Right, because I've never done an acting job where I didn't want it to end.

02:14:30.000 You say you don't, but at one point in time, you Deeply wanted to be on a sitcom.

02:14:38.000 It was all you wanted to do.

02:14:40.000 You weren't even doing stand-up for a big part of our friendship.

02:14:44.000 Yeah, I was acting a lot.

02:14:44.000 I was doing a lot of plays.

02:14:45.000 I was doing a lot of TV. You were also pretending to be an actor.

02:14:48.000 It was gross.

02:14:49.000 I know.

02:14:50.000 You would talk like one of them.

02:14:52.000 Don't get carried away.

02:14:53.000 I'd talk like one of them.

02:14:54.000 A little bit.

02:14:55.000 A little bit.

02:14:56.000 Did he count me like executives?

02:14:57.000 A little bit!

02:14:58.000 When he's around executives, he was talking about a woman.

02:15:01.000 Any time someone would bring up a woman, he would immediately be super progressive and overemphasize how good she is.

02:15:08.000 She's amazing!

02:15:09.000 Oh my god, she's amazing.

02:15:11.000 And I'd be like, what?

02:15:12.000 She's not that good.

02:15:13.000 What are you talking about?

02:15:14.000 He would be talking about a female comedian.

02:15:17.000 I can't believe you guys were friends from the jump.

02:15:19.000 That's what's crazy to me.

02:15:21.000 Right off the bat.

02:15:22.000 Because we never bullshitted each other.

02:15:25.000 I mean...

02:15:27.000 I wasn't pulling the wool over his eyes.

02:15:29.000 Oh my god.

02:15:29.000 He was in the worst environment.

02:15:32.000 The worst environment, in my opinion, is those sketch shows.

02:15:35.000 Because everybody's scrambling and being competitive.

02:15:38.000 And he was the only one that was cool.

02:15:40.000 Well, him and Artie.

02:15:41.000 Artie was cool as fuck.

02:15:42.000 Artie Lang.

02:15:43.000 And it was him and Artie Lang were the only ones, and me and Artie had a scene together, and I had a scene with Brian, but then there was all these other people that were on the set that were brutal.

02:15:51.000 This is MADtv?

02:15:52.000 Oh my god.

02:15:53.000 They were mean to him.

02:15:55.000 He was our guest.

02:15:56.000 They weren't mean to me.

02:15:57.000 No.

02:15:57.000 Everybody was fine with it.

02:15:58.000 If you look back at those videos, I think I sent you the picture.

02:16:01.000 You guys are so young.

02:16:02.000 We're young.

02:16:02.000 We're in our 20s.

02:16:03.000 I couldn't believe it.

02:16:04.000 We're in our 20s.

02:16:04.000 I've known Joe since I was 27, dude.

02:16:06.000 It's so funny.

02:16:07.000 Look at us.

02:16:07.000 Yes, that's it.

02:16:08.000 Look at my hair.

02:16:09.000 It's so beautiful.

02:16:10.000 I miss it so much.

02:16:10.000 Look at Callan.

02:16:11.000 I miss it so much.

02:16:13.000 Goddamn you.

02:16:14.000 That chick was really funny, man.

02:16:16.000 What was her name?

02:16:16.000 That's Mary Shearer.

02:16:18.000 The great Mary Shearer, who to this day is the funniest female actor.

02:16:23.000 She's probably the most talented person I've ever worked with.

02:16:25.000 She was so funny.

02:16:27.000 You're so buff back then.

02:16:28.000 I have a beautiful body.

02:16:29.000 I'm going to take my shirt off after this podcast.

02:16:30.000 He was a pool boy.

02:16:31.000 He had this great character that would dance around.

02:16:33.000 Was that a wig you were wearing?

02:16:34.000 Yes, it was.

02:16:35.000 That was a wig.

02:16:36.000 I got a lot of gay fan mail and a lot of fan mail from jail.

02:16:40.000 I'm not kidding.

02:16:41.000 I still have the letters I got from jail.

02:16:43.000 From jail?

02:16:44.000 Yep.

02:16:44.000 That woman, she used to wear like leather skin makeup to make herself look like she was over tanned and she had this crazy character.

02:16:53.000 We had Jennifer Aspinall who is a multi Emmy award winning makeup artist and she did like magical shit.

02:17:00.000 Joe, when did you decide acting, just fuck acting?

02:17:04.000 Well, I really loved news radio.

02:17:06.000 And I loved it because it was just the best case scenario.

02:17:11.000 Fantastic writing, great, talented actors, you know, all the above.

02:17:16.000 And it never was successful, which is perfect.

02:17:18.000 Because everybody had to keep trying and nobody ever got a big head.

02:17:21.000 It never made it.

02:17:23.000 It barely putt, putt, putt, barely stayed alive.

02:17:25.000 It was a perfect environment with some really talented people.

02:17:29.000 Still one of the greatest sitcoms ever in my opinion.

02:17:31.000 But you enjoyed the whole process?

02:17:33.000 I didn't enjoy it as much as I enjoyed stand-up, but I enjoyed it immensely.

02:17:37.000 And way more than I enjoyed any other things after that.

02:17:41.000 After that, I had development deals for like a year or two.

02:17:46.000 Which means what?

02:17:47.000 They give you some money and they try to put together a sitcom.

02:17:50.000 And it's based around you.

02:17:52.000 And then I got a chance to see what it's like.

02:17:56.000 Actors are like the worst comedians without punchlines.

02:18:00.000 Like, the worst comedians meaning not like the worst, like not funny, but mean the most crazy, the most neurotic.

02:18:08.000 And the actual act itself of auditioning and trying to get gigs, it enforces that.

02:18:16.000 You're always trying to get people to love you.

02:18:20.000 You're always looking for approval.

02:18:21.000 Well, you can never just be at peace.

02:18:25.000 You're always worried that you have to say the right thing.

02:18:29.000 You have to be liberal.

02:18:31.000 If you're not liberal, if you are a Republican, you better be fucking uber successful before you come out as a Republican.

02:18:37.000 You have to say those things.

02:18:40.000 You have to be super progressive.

02:18:42.000 You have to be super left-wing.

02:18:44.000 And you also, you gotta play this bullshit political game where everybody's fake.

02:18:51.000 They're all saying fake things and it feels so gross.

02:18:55.000 And coming from comedy from the East Coast, doing stand-up, from going from fighting and then stand-up to this.

02:19:02.000 I can't see you being an actor.

02:19:03.000 That's why I'm like, what the fuck?

02:19:05.000 I can't see you.

02:19:06.000 You did it for five years.

02:19:07.000 That's insane.

02:19:07.000 I get my throat gets tight when we start talking about it.

02:19:10.000 I think it's because it's all...

02:19:11.000 Nothing drives me more nuts when guys pose, especially if they're not fighters.

02:19:16.000 If they're fighters, I get it.

02:19:17.000 It's the thing, but when they put their fist up for a picture.

02:19:19.000 I told Brian, I go, what the fuck is this?

02:19:22.000 We both know this guy.

02:19:23.000 It's a picture of him and his friend with their fist up.

02:19:26.000 I go, why the fuck do people do this?

02:19:28.000 What is this?

02:19:30.000 They're just tools.

02:19:31.000 You will never see me put my fist up anymore.

02:19:33.000 I never do it.

02:19:33.000 It's a tool move.

02:19:34.000 It's so weird to me.

02:19:36.000 People have asked me to do it with them.

02:19:38.000 Hey, put your fist up for this picture.

02:19:40.000 I go, no.

02:19:41.000 Can't do it.

02:19:41.000 No.

02:19:42.000 They always want to square off with me and fucking get in my leg.

02:19:44.000 No.

02:19:45.000 No.

02:19:45.000 Come on.

02:19:46.000 The fist.

02:19:46.000 But you'll see big dudes.

02:19:47.000 I'm not going to say who the guy is, but he's a big guy in the pictures on Instagram.

02:19:51.000 He's like, ugh.

02:19:52.000 I told Brian, why the fuck you think he does that?

02:19:54.000 He goes, because he's not really tough.

02:19:56.000 It's like an ego thing.

02:19:57.000 Well, it's also like a culture thing.

02:19:59.000 They think that it's a cool way to stand.

02:20:01.000 I don't know.

02:20:01.000 It's like doing this, doing the shaka.

02:20:03.000 Oh, I'd take the shaka.

02:20:04.000 Yeah, shaka's cool.

02:20:06.000 That's fun, but I'm saying it's like that's one of those things.

02:20:09.000 I see what you're saying.

02:20:09.000 Like other people are doing the shaka.

02:20:10.000 You do the shaka.

02:20:11.000 It's like the Will Ferrell thing in Talladega Nights.

02:20:13.000 I don't know what to do with my hands.

02:20:15.000 Starts covering his face.

02:20:16.000 It's his first interview.

02:20:18.000 I fucking love that movie.

02:20:19.000 He's like, you know, I don't know what to do with my head.

02:20:21.000 God, I love that movie.

02:20:22.000 Fuck, yeah, I love that movie.

02:20:24.000 Tom Cruise, use your witchcraft!

02:20:26.000 I'm on fire!

02:20:28.000 I'm on fire!

02:20:30.000 I like how they put the view right in his face too and he's running around.

02:20:33.000 I love how his buddy's in his house and he can't figure out how to work his system because his buddy's banging his wife now.

02:20:39.000 He calls him and he goes, hey, how do you turn on the radio?

02:20:43.000 What do you want to listen to the radio and the TV at the same time?

02:20:45.000 Because I like to party.

02:20:46.000 He's in his house and he fucking cut out his picture and put his head on his family's picture.

02:20:53.000 How about when he's paralyzed?

02:20:54.000 When he's paralyzed, they're like, you're not paralyzed.

02:20:57.000 He's in the hospital.

02:20:58.000 They stab a knife in his...

02:21:00.000 That and Stepbrothers, man.

02:21:03.000 He stays amazing.

02:21:05.000 Will Ferrell is just...

02:21:07.000 His ability...

02:21:08.000 And John C. Reilly, too.

02:21:09.000 Nobody has a bad thing to say about him.

02:21:11.000 John C. Reilly's a beast.

02:21:12.000 Will Ferrell's a great guy.

02:21:13.000 He's a great guy.

02:21:14.000 Competitive, too.

02:21:15.000 I have friends who played golf with him, and they're like, he's a competitive guy.

02:21:18.000 He's not letting you win.

02:21:20.000 Yeah.

02:21:21.000 That was such a great movie.

02:21:22.000 Look at his eyes.

02:21:22.000 Look at his eyes and the intensity.

02:21:24.000 And that girl, Leslie Bibb, that was in that movie.

02:21:26.000 Oh, she's great.

02:21:27.000 I did Zookeeper with her.

02:21:28.000 She played my girlfriend in that movie Zookeeper.

02:21:30.000 And there's a movie that I did, but I only did because Kevin James, my buddy, and he asked me to do it.

02:21:35.000 I didn't have to audition.

02:21:37.000 He just asked me to do it.

02:21:38.000 But you're not...

02:21:39.000 You're acting, but you're not like a character.

02:21:42.000 Yeah, that's the other one.

02:21:43.000 Here Comes the Boom, I played myself.

02:21:44.000 That's right.

02:21:45.000 That was when he was going to be an MMA fighter.

02:21:47.000 That's right.

02:21:47.000 I only had like a couple scenes in that one.

02:21:49.000 There's a bunch of guys in there.

02:21:50.000 Mayhem Miller.

02:21:51.000 Yep, yep.

02:21:52.000 Kristoff.

02:21:52.000 Boss Ruten.

02:21:53.000 Just a paycheck at that point, right?

02:21:54.000 Well, this is a buddy of mine asking me to do something.

02:21:57.000 But the Zookeeper one was fun.

02:21:59.000 And it was a kid's movie.

02:22:01.000 And I was like, that'd be cool for my kids to see.

02:22:03.000 That's cool.

02:22:03.000 It's silly.

02:22:04.000 It's a bunch of monkeys talking to me.

02:22:06.000 Cal and I have been doing this thing with Firing the Kid for Fox, these episodes.

02:22:10.000 And to me, acting is so...

02:22:12.000 I don't understand.

02:22:13.000 It's like music actors.

02:22:15.000 It's so mysterious.

02:22:16.000 Athletes?

02:22:16.000 Whatever, man.

02:22:17.000 I don't give a fuck.

02:22:18.000 I get how they get their hard work, talent.

02:22:20.000 But the acting to me is so...

02:22:21.000 It's so different.

02:22:23.000 They're like...

02:22:23.000 You're doing a good job.

02:22:24.000 They're aliens to me.

02:22:25.000 It's a weird occupation.

02:22:28.000 It's very weird.

02:22:29.000 And people take it so goddamn seriously.

02:22:31.000 And they think it's so special when people do so well.

02:22:34.000 Chris Rock had a great line that he was preparing before he was doing the Oscars.

02:22:38.000 He was like, if you go to see the Grammys, they're singing.

02:22:41.000 The Oscars, they don't even act.

02:22:43.000 No one does anything.

02:22:44.000 They don't act.

02:22:45.000 They don't do shit.

02:22:45.000 It's the most boring award show.

02:22:47.000 He's like, I've hosted it twice.

02:22:48.000 I don't know what the fuck's going on.

02:22:50.000 It's true.

02:22:52.000 How crunk were people that Leonardo DiCaprio won?

02:22:54.000 You probably don't even watch it, but people were so crunk that this guy with 275 million won.

02:22:59.000 Even I was crunk.

02:23:00.000 Who cares?

02:23:00.000 Yeah, it's insane.

02:23:02.000 Who cares?

02:23:02.000 It's an award.

02:23:02.000 It's an award for your make-believe.

02:23:05.000 You're really good at make-believe.

02:23:07.000 You guys came to each other.

02:23:08.000 I just don't care.

02:23:10.000 I like movies, but the award shows to me are so nonsensical.

02:23:15.000 Whether it's award shows for comedy or award shows for music, I don't fucking care.

02:23:22.000 It doesn't make any sense to me.

02:23:23.000 Here's the reward.

02:23:26.000 Do people like it?

02:23:27.000 Do they go to see your movie?

02:23:29.000 Do they enjoy it?

02:23:30.000 Then you win.

02:23:31.000 It's like this idea that there's one better movie than all the other movies is stupid.

02:23:35.000 That is weird.

02:23:36.000 It's a human thing to crown a champion.

02:23:38.000 How the fuck did Ex Machina not win?

02:23:41.000 How did that not win best movie?

02:23:43.000 I didn't see it.

02:23:44.000 Over the Reverend?

02:23:45.000 Yes!

02:23:45.000 Excuse me, sir.

02:23:47.000 I didn't see Reverend.

02:23:47.000 How dare you.

02:23:49.000 I know, I always throw an R on there.

02:23:51.000 I have a speech impediment.

02:23:53.000 I was throwing an R on there.

02:23:54.000 Ex Machina was a really good movie?

02:23:55.000 Yep.

02:23:56.000 It was slow, but I liked it.

02:23:57.000 Ex Machina was amazing.

02:23:58.000 Not better than Reverend.

02:23:59.000 I didn't see it.

02:24:00.000 Revenant didn't do it for me, man.

02:24:01.000 The story.

02:24:02.000 I gotta go watch it.

02:24:03.000 I didn't see it, so I can't comment.

02:24:06.000 Didn't care about any of the characters.

02:24:07.000 Was Ex Machina in the running for best movie?

02:24:09.000 Uh, no.

02:24:11.000 That's a hard no.

02:24:11.000 Then your movie theater thing is bullshit.

02:24:13.000 Your ratings are bullshit.

02:24:15.000 Your movie theater bullshit is bullshit.

02:24:16.000 Mad Max fucking cleaned up, though.

02:24:19.000 What?

02:24:19.000 Mad Max.

02:24:20.000 See, that was a movie I thought was pretty good.

02:24:22.000 I thought it was alright.

02:24:23.000 It was fun.

02:24:24.000 It's a remake.

02:24:25.000 Pretty unique, though.

02:24:26.000 It was fun.

02:24:27.000 Not really.

02:24:27.000 It's a remake.

02:24:28.000 I knew what was going to happen.

02:24:29.000 Me too.

02:24:29.000 Who's going to survive?

02:24:31.000 Ex Machina, I did not know what the fuck was going to happen, and I was wrong at the end.

02:24:35.000 I've got to see this.

02:24:36.000 Don't tell me anything I've got to see.

02:24:36.000 Ex Machina is a goddamn great movie.

02:24:38.000 They were nominated for a bunch of special effects awards.

02:24:41.000 Not this Oscar.

02:24:42.000 I think they won something for special effects.

02:24:44.000 Did they, James?

02:24:45.000 I don't think so.

02:24:46.000 Did it win?

02:24:46.000 I didn't see a sniff of that movie.

02:24:49.000 That movie is not allowed in that.

02:24:51.000 Did you see it?

02:24:52.000 Have you seen it?

02:24:53.000 No.

02:24:53.000 Hey, man.

02:24:54.000 Goddamn, it's good.

02:24:55.000 Hey, man.

02:24:55.000 It's a goddamn good movie.

02:24:56.000 Dude, you know what I can't get enough of, and I highly doubt anyone here is watching, but it's the O.J. Simpson thing on FX. Everybody keeps telling me that!

02:25:02.000 I was at the store the other night, and they had it in the back comics bar.

02:25:07.000 They were watching it, and Cuba Gunning Jr. plays OJ, which I did not know.

02:25:10.000 I was like, what?

02:25:11.000 Dude, Johnny Cochran in that movie, when a guy gives a racist thing, it is...

02:25:16.000 Oscar win is a triumph.

02:25:17.000 What is it?

02:25:17.000 For low budget.

02:25:18.000 Visual effects.

02:25:19.000 Ah, well, it should have.

02:25:20.000 Boom, there you go.

02:25:21.000 It should have won for visual effects.

02:25:22.000 It's a goddamn fan.

02:25:23.000 That's this year?

02:25:24.000 Fantastic movie.

02:25:25.000 I'm gonna watch it.

02:25:26.000 It's a fantastic movie.

02:25:27.000 It's one of my all-time favorite movies.

02:25:28.000 Wait, does it happen in space?

02:25:29.000 Oh, yeah.

02:25:30.000 No, no, no, no, no.

02:25:32.000 No, it's about artificial intelligence.

02:25:33.000 It's about a guy who builds artificial people.

02:25:37.000 It's fucking amazing.

02:25:37.000 Did you see AI with Will Smith?

02:25:39.000 Is that what it's called, AI? It's not the same.

02:25:41.000 This is way better.

02:25:42.000 Robot.

02:25:43.000 No, that was good.

02:25:44.000 Robot was good.

02:25:44.000 That was good.

02:25:45.000 This is way better.

02:25:45.000 Really?

02:25:46.000 It's one of the best movies I've ever seen.

02:25:47.000 Completely different movie, though.

02:25:48.000 It's in my top ten all-time favorite movies.

02:25:50.000 Goddamn, Rogan.

02:25:51.000 100%.

02:25:51.000 It's right up there with Apocalypse Now to me.

02:25:54.000 For real.

02:25:55.000 Shit, son.

02:25:56.000 It's a great movie.

02:25:57.000 It's also the implications.

02:25:58.000 People right now scream, you fucking piece of shit!

02:26:02.000 It's opinions, ladies and gentlemen.

02:26:04.000 We all have opinions.

02:26:05.000 That's what you like.

02:26:06.000 But there's something about it also to me because this is a subject that I am engrossed in.

02:26:14.000 Almost every day I read about artificial intelligence.

02:26:18.000 Every day, I get up, I go to Scientific American, I go to all these different websites, and I search.

02:26:23.000 I will look up artificial intelligence, go to news, read the latest shit, and is one of the main subjects that repeats in my mind like a metronome all day long.

02:26:34.000 That's your thing.

02:26:35.000 So that's why you love the movie.

02:26:36.000 It's going to change our entire paradigm.

02:26:39.000 I think it's going to be the future of government.

02:26:41.000 I really do.

02:26:42.000 I think we're going to have rules that are established by artificial intelligence, and that's going to be how we decide and act and how we decide and make choices.

02:26:51.000 Damn, the robots are going to start running shit?

02:26:53.000 I really do believe that.

02:26:54.000 I think that's going to be the solution to the cult of personality that we're dealing with right now with Donald Trump being the frontrunner for president.

02:26:59.000 How crazy is that?

02:27:00.000 I've got to tell you right now, Hillary Clinton is not going to beat Donald Trump.

02:27:04.000 That's what I say, Joe.

02:27:05.000 Yes, she is.

02:27:06.000 No, she's not.

02:27:06.000 I disagree.

02:27:07.000 He doesn't have a chance.

02:27:08.000 You're out of your mind.

02:27:08.000 That's crazy.

02:27:09.000 That's what I was telling you, Brian.

02:27:10.000 The numbers, any political opponent, the numbers just don't add up for Trump.

02:27:13.000 That's not true.

02:27:14.000 That's not true at all.

02:27:15.000 They were saying the numbers didn't add up for him six months ago when they said he didn't have a chance.

02:27:18.000 He's the frontrunner by far right now.

02:27:20.000 Unless something changes...

02:27:22.000 He's got to say this in order to get acting gigs.

02:27:25.000 I don't like either one.

02:27:29.000 Look up the numbers, Jamie.

02:27:30.000 I don't like either one.

02:27:31.000 Hey Brian, I don't have a dog in the following.

02:27:32.000 I don't like either of them.

02:27:33.000 Let me make a statement.

02:27:35.000 Before you make the statement, Jamie, look up the numbers.

02:27:38.000 Hillary Clinton's support approval rating versus Donald Trump.

02:27:45.000 Let's just look at this and then you comment before you go.

02:27:47.000 She's going to win the election.

02:27:48.000 First of all, she has huge problems in that she's involved in a criminal investigation.

02:27:53.000 She might be indicted.

02:27:53.000 That's a big issue.

02:27:55.000 That's the black swan.

02:27:56.000 And the big fucking issue is that email thing.

02:28:00.000 I had Mike Baker on, formerly CIA operative, and he was on yesterday and he was saying, anybody else, he said if it was me that did the same thing she did, I'd be in jail.

02:28:10.000 He was talking about how they cut and pasted.

02:28:13.000 Okay, let's see what we got here.

02:28:15.000 What is the red and what is the blue?

02:28:17.000 Red's Trump, blue's Clinton.

02:28:19.000 So she's way ahead of him?

02:28:20.000 No.

02:28:21.000 43 to 46. 43 to 46 percent.

02:28:23.000 What is that graph then?

02:28:24.000 Why is she above him?

02:28:25.000 What is that representing?

02:28:27.000 It's time.

02:28:29.000 I don't understand that graph.

02:28:31.000 What does that graph mean, then?

02:28:32.000 Percentage of votes?

02:28:33.000 Poll average?

02:28:34.000 She's way ahead in African Americans and in Latino votes, and there's no way he's going to close that gap.

02:28:41.000 Well, she's 3% ahead.

02:28:42.000 She's also got the majority of the Democrats, from what I understand.

02:28:46.000 Trump is having a tough time with women, too.

02:28:49.000 Who's going to be with her and who's going to be with him?

02:28:51.000 I can't believe those are the only two.

02:28:53.000 Everybody will be with Trump except for...

02:28:55.000 No, I mean running mates.

02:28:57.000 Oh, running mates.

02:28:57.000 Yeah.

02:28:58.000 Who's gonna be his running mate?

02:28:59.000 Chris Christie.

02:29:00.000 No fucking way is that fat slob getting in.

02:29:03.000 He endorsed him.

02:29:03.000 His fat ass endorsed him.

02:29:04.000 Who cares?

02:29:05.000 Because you can't.

02:29:06.000 You can't.

02:29:06.000 No.

02:29:07.000 You can't have an addict.

02:29:08.000 By the way, that guy's an addict.

02:29:10.000 With food?

02:29:11.000 Yes, he's an addict.

02:29:12.000 There's no question about it.

02:29:13.000 That guy got his stomach stapled and he's still fat.

02:29:15.000 He's crazy fat.

02:29:16.000 Did he burst through it?

02:29:17.000 Yes, I'm sure.

02:29:18.000 Did you see him pitching at the baseball game?

02:29:20.000 He's disgusting.

02:29:21.000 Awesome.

02:29:21.000 But he's eating terrible foods.

02:29:24.000 It's a terrible thing.

02:29:25.000 And I'm not fat shaming.

02:29:27.000 But I'm saying if you're going to have a leader, you cannot have a leader who's, by the way, hugely anti-marijuana.

02:29:33.000 He said, marijuana, if I'm the president, we're going to outlaw all this stuff.

02:29:37.000 You fucking dummy.

02:29:38.000 You don't even understand what you're talking about.

02:29:40.000 Outlaw fast food, you fatty.

02:29:40.000 You're doing something that's way worse for your body than marijuana ever will be.

02:29:45.000 Preach.

02:29:46.000 I just don't understand who he's going to be running with.

02:29:51.000 See this?

02:29:51.000 If it's Rubio, he's got a real chance.

02:29:53.000 Look at this right here.

02:29:54.000 Super Tuesday could do him the GOPS poll show both Clinton and Sanders smoking Trump.

02:29:59.000 Hmm.

02:30:00.000 It's not gonna happen.

02:30:01.000 Sorry, Donald Trump's not gonna be the president unless something crazy happens.

02:30:04.000 What does that mean?

02:30:04.000 To doom the GOP. Bernie Sanders beat Trump?

02:30:07.000 But that's polls, man.

02:30:09.000 Polls are only people willing to answer polls.

02:30:11.000 And they were really bad.

02:30:13.000 Polls used to be representative of the winner.

02:30:15.000 They would go exit polls.

02:30:16.000 They were so off with Bush versus Kerry.

02:30:20.000 They were so off that they haven't been accurate.

02:30:23.000 It's not just polls.

02:30:23.000 They're just numbers.

02:30:24.000 I mean, most of the political opponents who really are in the know.

02:30:27.000 When Brian's bullshitting, he does this thing where he calms down, and instead of getting emotional, he's just like, well, there's more.

02:30:34.000 I get very calm.

02:30:36.000 He gets, like, I think his dad used to, like, chastise him, and he would say something stupid.

02:30:41.000 His dad would talk calmly.

02:30:42.000 No, my dad would do the opposite.

02:30:43.000 Oh, no, my dad would yell?

02:30:45.000 Oh, no, no, he wouldn't do that.

02:30:46.000 No, my father would do this.

02:30:47.000 Go ahead and start making a point.

02:30:49.000 Watch this.

02:30:50.000 Look at this.

02:30:51.000 Christie faces calls to quit.

02:30:54.000 Approval drop after backing Trump.

02:30:56.000 I wonder why.

02:30:58.000 Six newspapers calling for him to resign.

02:31:00.000 What are fucking newspapers?

02:31:02.000 Who are they?

02:31:03.000 People with opinions?

02:31:05.000 Why are they asking him to resign?

02:31:08.000 Resign what, though?

02:31:09.000 As a governor of New Jersey?

02:31:10.000 Yeah.

02:31:11.000 Why?

02:31:12.000 For endorsing Trump?

02:31:14.000 He's just not a good leader.

02:31:16.000 He's not a wise man.

02:31:18.000 He says foolish things.

02:31:20.000 Who's this, Trump?

02:31:21.000 No, Christie.

02:31:22.000 I think Trump is more of a showman.

02:31:24.000 A narcissist.

02:31:25.000 Trump's an entertainer.

02:31:27.000 Christie says foolish things.

02:31:28.000 He says foolish things that aren't backed by science.

02:31:31.000 He's very discriminatory when it comes to my beloved marijuana.

02:31:35.000 I can't listen to Chris Christie.

02:31:40.000 I don't agree with that.

02:31:41.000 I think that's a little harsh.

02:31:43.000 No, he's no discipline.

02:31:44.000 Winston Churchill drank and had a weight problem.

02:31:50.000 First of all, that's English.

02:31:51.000 The idea that somebody has a weight problem and they wouldn't be an effective leader to me doesn't hold water at all.

02:31:56.000 Really?

02:31:57.000 Who's the fattest president we've ever had?

02:31:58.000 Who's the obese president we've ever had?

02:32:00.000 That's not an effective argument.

02:32:01.000 We've never had an obese president.

02:32:03.000 People are prejudicial when they vote.

02:32:05.000 Winston Churchill was from a long time ago, and alcohol was celebrated then as a manly thing to consume.

02:32:11.000 If you took the fat ratio, if you took whatever it is, the body fat test on some of the CEOs or great inventors or scientists or whatever they were, I don't know that you would find...

02:32:25.000 I'm talking about presidents.

02:32:26.000 You don't have any numbers.

02:32:27.000 There's no fat president.

02:32:28.000 Yeah, but you don't have any numbers right now.

02:32:29.000 There's never been a fat president.

02:32:31.000 But I mean the idea that because somebody's fat means that they are...

02:32:33.000 Yes, he has no discipline.

02:32:34.000 That guy's not just fat.

02:32:35.000 That's just not true.

02:32:35.000 First of all.

02:32:36.000 That's not true.

02:32:36.000 Hold on.

02:32:37.000 He's not just fat.

02:32:38.000 Ridiculous.

02:32:38.000 Hold on.

02:32:39.000 He's not just fat.

02:32:39.000 He's a fat guy who's undergone an operation to not be fat anymore and he's still fat.

02:32:43.000 Well, I'm saying that you can be not disciplined in one area of our life, but have a huge brain and a huge intellect.

02:32:50.000 Right, but he doesn't have that either.

02:32:51.000 But he says foolish things and he's fat.

02:32:53.000 He's a different story.

02:32:54.000 I'm just saying in general, when you generalize and say I could not vote for somebody or take somebody seriously as a leader because they're fat, for me, I disagree.

02:33:05.000 For me, it's discriminatory.

02:33:08.000 Yes, it is.

02:33:09.000 But it's also judging someone based on their own personal choices.

02:33:12.000 The choices that you make to be an addict and to not seek out healthy food and to seek out body harmony.

02:33:18.000 His body is out of whack.

02:33:20.000 He's, like, grossly overweight, and he went through going under.

02:33:24.000 Like, he gave in saying that, like, I don't have the discipline to deal with my issue, so what I'm going to do is go to a doctor and get cut open so my stomach is smaller.

02:33:33.000 Doesn't matter.

02:33:34.000 There are a lot of great writers.

02:33:35.000 Stop what you're saying.

02:33:36.000 Stephen King had a major alcohol problem.

02:33:38.000 Hold on.

02:33:38.000 Don't say that that doesn't matter.

02:33:40.000 That's not real.

02:33:40.000 What do you mean?

02:33:41.000 The major alcohol problem that he had was a part of his creative process and that he recognized was a giant- He also wrote books!

02:33:47.000 Yes it was!

02:33:48.000 I read his book!

02:33:49.000 I read his book on writing!

02:33:51.000 So I read that book too and what did he say in the book?

02:33:53.000 He talked about how he used to drink and do coke and he would find these fucking- It was a part of his process.

02:33:59.000 He realized it was killing him.

02:34:00.000 He stopped doing it!

02:34:01.000 Christie is still eating like a pig!

02:34:03.000 Stephen King makes a very important statement.

02:34:04.000 That's not a leader.

02:34:05.000 He's an artist.

02:34:06.000 He's an artist.

02:34:07.000 He's not a leader of the fucking United States.

02:34:09.000 I understand if you don't want to vote for your leader because he's heavy.

02:34:12.000 What I'm saying is that the idea that somebody wouldn't be effective because they have a weight problem is erroneous.

02:34:17.000 It doesn't hold water.

02:34:18.000 And I'm saying just tell me the biggest president we've ever had and go.

02:34:21.000 Who's the most obese president?

02:34:23.000 That's not a good argument though, Brennan, because we don't have a bald president with the exception of Ford.

02:34:29.000 He was pretty fat.

02:34:30.000 He's thicker than a Snickers right there.

02:34:33.000 Was he good?

02:34:34.000 Especially back then.

02:34:35.000 He's jolly.

02:34:37.000 He's huge, but was he a good president?

02:34:39.000 That was also a really long time ago, too.

02:34:41.000 Yeah.

02:34:41.000 And Taft was only in power for a very short period of time.

02:34:44.000 It was also back when people were starving to death.

02:34:46.000 Yeah.

02:34:46.000 Like, when you were fat, it was awesome.

02:34:48.000 When people like that were just eating, exactly, eating and eating and eating and being rich.

02:34:53.000 I think I'm reacting to the fact that we live in a culture now where, you know...

02:34:57.000 There's body shaming?

02:34:58.000 Yeah.

02:34:58.000 Look at that, though.

02:34:59.000 Look at that.

02:34:59.000 Fuck you, Count.

02:35:00.000 You want that as your president?

02:35:01.000 Fuck you.

02:35:01.000 Get the fuck out of here.

02:35:03.000 That's not looking so good.

02:35:04.000 He's also got this, like, upper cock fat that is so unappetizing.

02:35:09.000 He's got a gut.

02:35:10.000 It's called a fupa.

02:35:12.000 Yeah, the upper cock fat.

02:35:13.000 I mean, come on.

02:35:14.000 Gee whiz, that's a terrible...

02:35:16.000 Go meet with the other leaders of the world.

02:35:18.000 You might be right, guys.

02:35:19.000 This is also post-surgery.

02:35:21.000 Yeah.

02:35:21.000 You have to understand the discipline issue.

02:35:24.000 It's a real discipline issue.

02:35:25.000 Dude, I fired an agent.

02:35:26.000 We were talking on the phone.

02:35:27.000 He was great on paper.

02:35:28.000 I met him in person.

02:35:29.000 I've seen he was letting some stuff slip.

02:35:31.000 I'm like, oh, that's weird.

02:35:32.000 Me in person, he's 400 pounds.

02:35:34.000 Gotta let you go, man.

02:35:36.000 Obviously, there's some sort of discipline issue.

02:35:38.000 There has to be.

02:35:38.000 But you can be indisciplined on one side of your life and very disciplined in others.

02:35:42.000 That is true.

02:35:43.000 It's compartmentalized.

02:35:44.000 And sometimes you do have an issue, and clearly that is a food issue.

02:35:49.000 I'm saying I don't want the President of the United States struggling with his diet when he has to make these huge decisions.

02:35:55.000 When that's the biggest fight in his life and his health is in danger.

02:35:58.000 King makes an interesting distinction just when we brought him up and he said, I was a very talented guy with a substance abuse problem.

02:36:04.000 That's what he said.

02:36:05.000 And he said a lot of people make the mistake of saying that my substance abuse was the reason I was so talented.

02:36:09.000 He said, not true.

02:36:10.000 No, that's not necessarily what he said.

02:36:11.000 What he said was that the creative process was enhanced by his substance abuse problem.

02:36:16.000 He says that's not the case.

02:36:19.000 I'm a Stephen King fan.

02:36:20.000 His shit that he wrote when he was fucked up was better.

02:36:22.000 Way better.

02:36:23.000 He got shitty when he was sober.

02:36:25.000 He's also an artist.

02:36:27.000 Big difference, man.

02:36:27.000 I want my artist doing some weird shit.

02:36:29.000 I wouldn't want Stephen King when he was coked up balancing my checkbook.

02:36:33.000 But expanding your mind, he's got to get in there.

02:36:36.000 You need to have fucking discipline to be a president.

02:36:38.000 You need to be a healthy person.

02:36:40.000 You also need to be a role model.

02:36:42.000 It's a figurehead for the United States of America.

02:36:45.000 It's not as simple as...

02:36:47.000 I see what you're saying, though.

02:36:47.000 Jack Kennedy was It was a huge womanizer.

02:36:50.000 I want that as my president.

02:36:52.000 It's a different thing, man.

02:36:53.000 It's a different thing, first of all, and we didn't know.

02:36:56.000 No one knew back then.

02:36:57.000 Martin Luther King.

02:36:57.000 We know he's a slob.

02:36:58.000 It's like right in front of his face.

02:37:00.000 It's a different world back then.

02:37:02.000 The world was different.

02:37:03.000 But you could also say it was a breakdown in self-control, right?

02:37:06.000 In one way or another.

02:37:07.000 Maybe, or it was just standard operational procedure.

02:37:10.000 You also don't become a leader by just dating one chick.

02:37:13.000 Well, that's what I'm saying.

02:37:15.000 They were dick-slingers.

02:37:16.000 They were presidential dick-slingers.

02:37:18.000 His dick-slinging might be food, though, is what I'm saying.

02:37:21.000 Well, it's a different thing, though, because it wasn't interfering with his health.

02:37:25.000 Like, Christie's physical body is massively falling apart.

02:37:31.000 And the guy got a fucking operation, and it didn't do much.

02:37:35.000 I mean, he's still grossly overweight.

02:37:37.000 I mean, he used to be way bigger.

02:37:38.000 That doesn't bother you at all, Callan?

02:37:39.000 I almost want my president a superhero.

02:37:41.000 I feel like you're kind of being a contrarian here.

02:37:43.000 No, no, no.

02:37:44.000 I actually don't know if it bothers me or not.

02:37:46.000 Well, let me tell you.

02:37:48.000 I understand your point.

02:37:49.000 Try to explore it.

02:37:49.000 And I think it's a good point.

02:37:51.000 Explore it.

02:37:51.000 What it doesn't bother you.

02:37:52.000 You say you don't know if it bothers you.

02:37:54.000 Explore it.

02:37:54.000 Because health is important for presidents.

02:37:56.000 They have to go through all those health checks.

02:37:57.000 That's why Trump came out and they said, fuck, they said, I'm in great shape.

02:38:00.000 What's up?

02:38:02.000 President Obama, beast and shit.

02:38:05.000 I'm not trying to be a contrarian at all.

02:38:07.000 I understand and respect somebody's point of view where they say, you know what?

02:38:11.000 You are not able to control your own biology.

02:38:14.000 Therefore, I wonder what your judgment would be like as a leader.

02:38:17.000 100% valid.

02:38:18.000 Well, you're judging a person when they're running for president.

02:38:20.000 You're 100% judging them.

02:38:21.000 And he falls massively short in the department of taking care of his own physical being.

02:38:28.000 Most of us, and we know that most of us when we hire somebody, if one guy's in shape, the other guy's not, we're going to just instinctively go, we're going to make those conclusions.

02:38:37.000 In a way, it's fair in terms of how you look at the world, where you say, you know what?

02:38:42.000 If you can't control your own biology, I wonder what else you can't control.

02:38:45.000 And as a fat person, you know you're walking into that or at least have to take responsibility for whatever the world judges you as.

02:38:51.000 I don't buy this.

02:38:52.000 It's a so hard thing.

02:38:53.000 I just don't buy it.

02:38:54.000 Well, I don't know.

02:38:55.000 I just fucking lost 10 pounds.

02:38:57.000 I wasn't even fat.

02:38:58.000 It's different, Joe.

02:38:59.000 It's different.

02:39:00.000 Why is it different?

02:39:02.000 You're saying even if he's overweight, you can still make good decisions.

02:39:05.000 Why is it different?

02:39:05.000 Why is it different for me than it is for him?

02:39:06.000 I'll tell you how.

02:39:07.000 I think some people, for example, have a predilection not only to put on weight because their endocrine system is just whacked, but also some people do have addictions, and addictions are very powerful.

02:39:19.000 That's what I said.

02:39:19.000 He's an addict.

02:39:20.000 Yeah.

02:39:20.000 I don't want an addict as my president, though, is what I'm telling you, Callan.

02:39:24.000 Whether it's drugs, alcohol, women, food.

02:39:27.000 What I'm saying is that we live in a culture now that just puts so much emphasis on the physical.

02:39:34.000 And I think there are a lot of people who have been overweight and who have eaten too much or had a thing for sugar who still are incredibly beneficial to society and have invented things and done things that, you know, they were huge intellects.

02:39:51.000 Like Michael Moore.

02:39:52.000 They were huge intellects.

02:39:53.000 Yeah, well, that's a different story.

02:39:54.000 But there were huge intellects.

02:39:55.000 Yeah, well, there's a lot of smart people that are fat, for sure.

02:39:58.000 But you don't want them running the big show.

02:40:01.000 There's a difference between someone who's a really smart, fat person who's a great singer or a smart, fat person who's really good at telling jokes.

02:40:09.000 There's a big difference between that and a fucking president.

02:40:12.000 A president is not just a guy who can talk to this guy and make good decisions.

02:40:17.000 He's a fucking figurehead for the United States of America, the greatest superpower the world has ever known.

02:40:23.000 For us to say Chris Christie's the best we could do is a disgrace.

02:40:27.000 It's not a different subject.

02:40:29.000 It's not a different subject at all.

02:40:31.000 You have to cover all your bases.

02:40:32.000 It's exactly the subject.

02:40:34.000 What's that?

02:40:35.000 You're talking specifically about Chris Christie.

02:40:37.000 I'm talking about somebody with a weight problem.

02:40:38.000 Yes, that's what we talked about.

02:40:38.000 We talked about a massively obese guy.

02:40:41.000 No, no.

02:40:43.000 I reacted to, I don't know if I could, I don't want to vote for somebody who looks like that.

02:40:50.000 Like him!

02:40:51.000 Yeah, him!

02:40:52.000 And for me, it wouldn't make as much difference.

02:40:53.000 Well, he's the only one in the race who's obese.

02:40:55.000 Yeah, but Brian, you're arguing semantics now, because that's the one guy who looks like that.

02:40:59.000 He's the only guy.

02:41:00.000 I mean, Trump's not skinny.

02:41:02.000 He's a fat fuck, too.

02:41:03.000 If you saw Trump without his clothes on, you'd throw up.

02:41:05.000 Exactly.

02:41:06.000 Trump compared to him, though, is a fucking...

02:41:09.000 Welcome to my nightmare, all those guys together.

02:41:13.000 Look, I saw...

02:41:13.000 I'm sure there's...

02:41:16.000 Rubio flexing on them fools.

02:41:18.000 Yeah.

02:41:18.000 First of all, who are those other people?

02:41:21.000 It's Ted Cruz.

02:41:22.000 Chris Christie.

02:41:23.000 Marco Rubio.

02:41:24.000 Rand Paul.

02:41:25.000 Carson.

02:41:25.000 Yeah, Ben Carson.

02:41:26.000 Who's that other guy?

02:41:27.000 I think Dennis Kasich.

02:41:29.000 I think that's Dennis Kasich.

02:41:30.000 He's the governor of Ohio.

02:41:31.000 He's done a very good job.

02:41:33.000 Then you have Donald Trump.

02:41:35.000 How about Jeb Bush?

02:41:35.000 He knows he's alive.

02:41:37.000 Even people in Ohio aren't voting for that guy.

02:41:40.000 Jeb Bush has always put on weight, too.

02:41:41.000 He's always had a problem.

02:41:42.000 How is this guy still in there, that Kay Shishish guy?

02:41:45.000 He was very effective as an Ohio governor.

02:41:47.000 Is he hoping his photos come out of all those guys?

02:41:49.000 And it's so expensive.

02:41:50.000 Young boy, gay orgy.

02:41:52.000 That's so weird.

02:41:53.000 Me!

02:41:54.000 Finally, I'm what's left.

02:41:55.000 Last man's stand.

02:41:57.000 All I'm thinking about is the MMA fan going, what the fuck, man?

02:42:01.000 Where's the fucking breakdown?

02:42:02.000 Where's the fight breakdowns, you cunt?

02:42:04.000 We didn't promise it.

02:42:06.000 What about the fight?

02:42:06.000 We warned you.

02:42:07.000 We talked about Connor for an hour.

02:42:10.000 No, ten minutes.

02:42:11.000 Connor.

02:42:12.000 I was going to say, Connor.

02:42:15.000 Ian, what do you think about who's going to win that fight?

02:42:17.000 Thank you, Jamie.

02:42:18.000 Jamie just put the fucking fight thing back on.

02:42:20.000 Let's go, yeah.

02:42:21.000 Connor.

02:42:22.000 Because I fucking hate this Chris Christie talk.

02:42:24.000 It makes me angry.

02:42:25.000 Yeah, I'm fucking horrible at politics.

02:42:26.000 I'm just watching you guys.

02:42:27.000 The fucking New Jersey thing, man.

02:42:30.000 That's my state where I was born.

02:42:32.000 That's your representative.

02:42:34.000 It reminds you of all the shit that he did with the bridge, the shutting down that bridge.

02:42:38.000 Dude, that political decision to do that is so...

02:42:42.000 It's criminal.

02:42:43.000 It's criminal to shut down a bridge to try to...

02:42:45.000 I don't want to talk about it.

02:42:47.000 I'll get angry.

02:42:48.000 I'll get fucking pissed off.

02:42:49.000 Jesus!

02:42:49.000 Let's go!

02:42:50.000 Let's go to some fights!

02:42:51.000 So, we have the size difference when we're to their heights.

02:42:56.000 I guess it doesn't really matter.

02:42:57.000 I think Nate is taller.

02:42:58.000 Yeah, sure.

02:42:59.000 He's three inches taller, and he has a two-inch reach advantage.

02:43:02.000 It says two, yeah.

02:43:04.000 Hmm, that's interesting.

02:43:05.000 That's going to play a big factor, because obviously Connor moves in so much, isn't used to fighting the bigger guy, but now he is.

02:43:12.000 But the thing is, if you've seen pictures of him and video of him, he's fucking huge right now.

02:43:17.000 Yeah, I like the leg reach thing.

02:43:18.000 He's got longer legs.

02:43:20.000 Me too.

02:43:20.000 Yeah.

02:43:20.000 And he uses them.

02:43:22.000 There you go.

02:43:22.000 Exactly.

02:43:22.000 He uses them real well and really well at distance.

02:43:24.000 It's not like me where I just want to step in and club your legs.

02:43:27.000 He's trying to negate that gap between him and you.

02:43:30.000 And he likes to throw a lot of front kicks to the body like he did with Chad Mendez.

02:43:34.000 That's going to be a pain in the ass.

02:43:34.000 That's effective against a guy like Diaz.

02:43:37.000 Let me ask you this, Uncle Creepy.

02:43:38.000 How about...

02:43:41.000 With Connor, he's always been the bully, right?

02:43:44.000 He's kind of bullied the 145 division.

02:43:46.000 And then now, here, there's no way.

02:43:48.000 He's just not bigger than Diaz.

02:43:50.000 So I think it's the first time we're really going to see him where his size isn't going to be that advantage anymore.

02:43:55.000 But he's pretty goddamn big right now.

02:43:57.000 He was training for a fight at 155, which means he ate like a pig, fought at 155 in the UK. So he's fought at 155 before and starched guys with one shot.

02:44:07.000 I absolutely believe his power carries over to 155. And this fight is essentially at 170, but these are 155ers that don't have to cut weight.

02:44:16.000 That's what's going on.

02:44:17.000 They don't have to cut weight because it was part of the agreement when Nate took the fight.

02:44:20.000 They took it at a catch weight.

02:44:22.000 Well, you know, Diaz was down to go to, I think, 165 or 160, and Conor goes, no, no, no, man, I want you to have the advantage here in the weight.

02:44:30.000 We're going to make it 170. Don't kill yourself, Conor.

02:44:33.000 He didn't want to cut weight.

02:44:34.000 Look, and you shouldn't...

02:44:35.000 I think, listen, I think this is the future, and I really, truly hope that people decide to fight at a much more reasonable weight class.

02:44:42.000 I think they decide to do this, where they fight where they actually...

02:44:46.000 Belong and stop this dehydration process, man.

02:44:49.000 It's fucking madness.

02:44:50.000 It's the worst aspect of MMA, the most dangerous aspect of MMA, the scariest now because there's no IV rehydration.

02:44:58.000 So these people are going in there with dehydrated brains and they're taking shots of the fucking dome.

02:45:03.000 I think it's stupid.

02:45:04.000 It ruins your chin.

02:45:05.000 It ruins your ability to fight at the best level.

02:45:08.000 And longevity.

02:45:09.000 Longevity.

02:45:10.000 Also, you got a huge X factor, too, is Nate Diaz.

02:45:14.000 They go, well, he's getting ready for a triathlon.

02:45:16.000 I don't give a fuck.

02:45:17.000 That's not five rounds of fighting the UFC. I don't care what you're doing.

02:45:20.000 There's no way you can make up for that.

02:45:22.000 Well, I don't know, because I don't know what else he was doing other than training for the triathlon.

02:45:26.000 I don't know if he was doing anything.

02:45:27.000 I know he was definitely training for a triathlon, though, which means it's not like you caught him sitting on the couch doing bong hits and eating Cheetos.

02:45:35.000 It's true.

02:45:36.000 The guy's in really good shape.

02:45:37.000 Different shape.

02:45:38.000 It is a different shape, but there's also no wear and tear from a fight camp, and that could be a big factor in his favor.

02:45:44.000 Well, Diaz did say, he goes, you know what, to me, there's no pressure on me.

02:45:47.000 He goes, I've had camps where I've had full camps and I went in there and got my ass whooped.

02:45:50.000 Then I've had times where I was sitting on the couch for three weeks, went into the gym, beat everybody up.

02:45:55.000 He's like, so for me, it's just another day.

02:45:58.000 I think of Big factor.

02:45:59.000 A really big factor is the fact that he doesn't have to cut weight.

02:46:02.000 I think it's a big factor for Conor, too.

02:46:04.000 I mean, we might see the best Conor we've ever seen.

02:46:06.000 Because seeing him at 145 pounds, that guy was on death's door the day before the fight.

02:46:11.000 The Chad Mendes fight, he looked like utter dog shit at the weigh-ins.

02:46:15.000 And then the next day, he's full and thick and probably 20-plus pounds heavier than he was at the weigh-ins.

02:46:22.000 I'll tell you what gets scary is if Diaz does get McGregor down.

02:46:26.000 Oh, yeah.

02:46:26.000 That's scary.

02:46:27.000 Oh, yeah.

02:46:28.000 Oh, yeah.

02:46:28.000 For McGregor, it's very scary.

02:46:29.000 Oh, yeah.

02:46:30.000 You're talking about a high-level jiu-jitsu guy with lots of submissions in the UFC. Diaz has got some serious fucking skills.

02:46:35.000 From top and bottom.

02:46:36.000 Yeah.

02:46:36.000 Really, really good jiu-jitsu.

02:46:38.000 But see, George Lockhart has been working with Conor for the last fight or two.

02:46:43.000 Right.

02:46:43.000 So you know that he's not just eating a bunch of shit.

02:46:47.000 Right.

02:46:47.000 He's putting...

02:46:49.000 I mean, on a cellular level, he's energizing his body with really, really good, high energy fuel stuff.

02:46:55.000 So him putting on that much weight, which is just more natural for him, he's going to be fucking so strong.

02:47:01.000 So strong.

02:47:02.000 And has such good cardio.

02:47:02.000 So healthy.

02:47:03.000 So healthy.

02:47:04.000 If he gets by this, I think you have to do UFC 200 if Dos Anjos is ready.

02:47:08.000 If he gets by him, but what if Nate Diaz lights him up?

02:47:12.000 I don't see that happening.

02:47:14.000 Then we don't have to deal with this shit anymore.

02:47:16.000 Well, we do.

02:47:17.000 You want to do with this shit, though.

02:47:19.000 I like it.

02:47:20.000 The sport needs it, man.

02:47:21.000 I get nervous because I don't want the Conor show to end.

02:47:24.000 I want it to keep going.

02:47:26.000 It's magical.

02:47:27.000 It's magical because he's got the guts to talk so big and then just to go up to 70. You've got to love it.

02:47:36.000 I don't think Nate Diaz, if he beats him, I don't think he ends the Conor train.

02:47:40.000 I think he stops it momentarily.

02:47:42.000 There's a regrouping and he comes back.

02:47:45.000 Better than ever.

02:47:46.000 I just don't think losing to Nate Diaz stops everything.

02:47:49.000 I think it definitely changes it.

02:47:51.000 It's a big bump in the road, man.

02:47:52.000 It's a big bump in the road.

02:47:53.000 There's no more of that undefeated aura anymore.

02:47:55.000 Well, look at what happened to Manny Pacquiao.

02:47:57.000 He fought Juan Manuel Marquez and got knocked dead.

02:48:00.000 Look like he died.

02:48:01.000 Face planted.

02:48:01.000 Not the same.

02:48:02.000 Not the same, but he came back and is still just as huge as he's ever been before.

02:48:06.000 Ah, man, it's not the same.

02:48:07.000 Look at Floyd, though.

02:48:09.000 Floyd was huge, right?

02:48:10.000 Never lost.

02:48:11.000 Even though his fights were boring, we still tune in.

02:48:13.000 He's still the best of all time.

02:48:14.000 He had this huge undefeated aura about him.

02:48:16.000 He loses with his fighting style?

02:48:18.000 Get the fuck out of here.

02:48:19.000 Well, if he loses, he's boring to watch.

02:48:22.000 But he's undefeated, so that's why we tune in.

02:48:24.000 Yeah, but he also refused to fight some guys in their prime like Manny Pacquiao.

02:48:28.000 Five years ago, six years ago, he was a fighter.

02:48:30.000 But stop right there, because he had a real good argument that Manny Pacquiao was most likely on performance-enhancing drugs.

02:48:36.000 He refused to take the drug test, so there's a reason why he didn't fight.

02:48:39.000 And Manny moved up eight weight classes.

02:48:43.000 Right, I know.

02:48:43.000 And kept his knockout power.

02:48:45.000 Look, I don't know whether or not Manny did anything, but that Alex Ariza guy that was with him, that guy...

02:48:51.000 Notoriously known for it.

02:48:53.000 Yeah, notoriously known for it.

02:48:54.000 That was his strength and conditioning coach.

02:48:56.000 And the reputation is usually...

02:48:59.000 It's usually pretty accurate.

02:49:01.000 That's like me having Jose Canseco in my corner and then be like, I don't know, man!

02:49:05.000 I don't know!

02:49:06.000 Shob is 298 pounds.

02:49:08.000 It's weird.

02:49:08.000 He went up eight weight classes and Jose Canseco's his fucking best friend.

02:49:13.000 I think he's good, man.

02:49:14.000 Anderson Silva's strength and conditioning coach.

02:49:16.000 Why do a lot of guys get purple like that?

02:49:18.000 What happens?

02:49:19.000 I guess it's like blood rushing to your skin or something.

02:49:21.000 Yeah.

02:49:22.000 They sweat a lot.

02:49:23.000 They get greasy.

02:49:24.000 They're always flexing and they're just...

02:49:26.000 Yeah.

02:49:27.000 Well, also, I think when you take a lot of testosterone like that, from what I understand, you have more blood.

02:49:34.000 You have more blood in your system.

02:49:36.000 Really?

02:49:36.000 Yeah, like this dude I knew who was on heavy doses of testosterone, his doctor, he's doing some endurance thing, and his doctor told him you should give blood.

02:49:47.000 You should take some blood out of your body before he was going to do some crazy bike ride.

02:49:52.000 You should take blood out of your body.

02:49:54.000 Damn, that's insane.

02:49:55.000 Your blood gets thick, I guess, right?

02:49:57.000 What are you doing?

02:49:57.000 Yeah, it gets thick.

02:49:59.000 There's a theory that says that the reason women don't die of heart problems, they don't have the kind of cholesterol issues, is because they bleed once a month.

02:50:06.000 And this guy said, if you give blood once a year, it might be the best thing you can do for your heart.

02:50:11.000 Really?

02:50:11.000 For your body, yeah.

02:50:12.000 Why?

02:50:13.000 Because apparently it keeps your blood thinner.

02:50:15.000 And so as a result, you will...

02:50:17.000 And by the way, I'm not a doctor.

02:50:19.000 I'm paraphrasing this guy, so please don't kill me.

02:50:21.000 Everyone go out and get blood thinners.

02:50:22.000 Exactly.

02:50:22.000 But essentially he said, you can lower your lipid levels and all this other stuff by giving blood once a year, and it makes a huge difference.

02:50:30.000 Wow.

02:50:31.000 It's a school of thought.

02:50:33.000 It's also been disputed.

02:50:35.000 Just like a pint, I guess?

02:50:37.000 It's been disputed?

02:50:38.000 What's supposed to be the benefit?

02:50:40.000 How does it lower your blood lipid level?

02:50:41.000 So I guess, apparently, like you said, you get thick.

02:50:45.000 Your blood gets thick, and it kind of acts as, I suppose, like aspirin would, where your blood gets thin.

02:50:52.000 And then your body has to rejuvenate and make more blood.

02:50:54.000 That is interesting that women don't get the kind of heart attacks that men do.

02:50:57.000 I always attributed that to stress.

02:50:59.000 Well, no, it's estrogen.

02:51:00.000 I thought stress, too.

02:51:01.000 It's estrogen, and it's also, according to a couple of these doctors, that they bleed once a month.

02:51:07.000 And that hasn't affected it.

02:51:09.000 It's because they're evil creatures.

02:51:12.000 Excuse me, sir.

02:51:13.000 They give heart attacks.

02:51:14.000 They don't get them.

02:51:15.000 That's true.

02:51:16.000 I remember when I was a kid, I'd cut myself and suck on it.

02:51:18.000 Like, I thought, like, you know, I'd cut, like, oh, shit!

02:51:21.000 Do you ever do that or do you think we didn't cut yourself on purpose?

02:51:23.000 No, I'd, like, fall down and scrape myself and suck the blood.

02:51:26.000 Yeah, I always did that.

02:51:26.000 Because I thought it'd go back in my body.

02:51:28.000 Oh, I don't give blood.

02:51:28.000 Wrong.

02:51:29.000 Wrong.

02:51:30.000 Stupid.

02:51:30.000 Well, it kind of does.

02:51:31.000 Kind of.

02:51:32.000 It just doesn't go back in your blood.

02:51:34.000 The nutrients go in your body.

02:51:35.000 You think.

02:51:36.000 I want to go do a full screening of vitamins, hormones, everything.

02:51:41.000 I've never done that.

02:51:41.000 Have you done cryotherapy yet?

02:51:43.000 No.

02:51:43.000 Let's go do it right now.

02:51:44.000 Dude, I got into a really cold pool and almost panicked.

02:51:47.000 That's not the same.

02:51:48.000 My asshole hurt.

02:51:49.000 My asshole balls were like, hey!

02:51:51.000 That's not like an ice bath.

02:51:52.000 To me, it's easy.

02:51:54.000 The ice bath is stronger.

02:51:56.000 Stronger.

02:51:56.000 Harder to do.

02:51:57.000 For me, an ice bath is more effective.

02:52:00.000 Well, that's what Iceman Hoff, Wim Hoff, he said for your soul, your resiliency and being able to overcome the ice bath is better.

02:52:10.000 It's way longer.

02:52:11.000 Yeah, because you're pouring bags of fucking ice in that water and you get in there and you're brutalized for 20 minutes.

02:52:18.000 Some people swear by cryotherapy.

02:52:20.000 My last camp I did it four times a week and I didn't see much of a difference.

02:52:24.000 Opposed to ice baths.

02:52:25.000 So I stopped doing with ice baths.

02:52:27.000 Maybe it's like what you felt versus the actual anti-inflammation markers in your blood.

02:52:34.000 Because they've definitely shown that it reduces inflammation pretty radically.

02:52:40.000 Better than an ice bath?

02:52:42.000 I don't know about better because I don't know.

02:52:44.000 I don't know how much has been shown that ice baths do.

02:52:49.000 I don't know.

02:52:50.000 I'm more aware of what they've shown from cryotherapy.

02:52:53.000 But where it's really effective is for people with arthritis.

02:52:56.000 There's this lady that goes to the place that I go to, and this poor lady, her hands are jacked, man.

02:53:01.000 Like her whole life, her hands have been like this, just like gnarled up claws.

02:53:05.000 And she now, for the first time in a decade, can straighten her fingers out.

02:53:10.000 And she never thought about just filling up buckets of ice and putting her hands in them?

02:53:13.000 I don't know, man.

02:53:13.000 It seems like you should, right?

02:53:15.000 I don't know what she's done before.

02:53:16.000 I should have asked her.

02:53:17.000 Well, it's like my daughter.

02:53:18.000 I'm actually partnering her up with a cryo place in Lake Forest.

02:53:22.000 You guys are balls deep.

02:53:23.000 Opening up March 15th.

02:53:25.000 We open up March 15th.

02:53:26.000 It's called Therapy Cryo Salon.

02:53:28.000 Lake Forest.

02:53:29.000 My daughter has juvenile rheumatoid arthritis.

02:53:32.000 I take her in my cryo machine.

02:53:34.000 The lady I used to go to, Monica, in Newport, our Costa Mesa.

02:53:39.000 Well, it sparked my interest, and then I realized that it fucking works.

02:53:43.000 You know, like, the science is behind it.

02:53:45.000 Talking about how deep it penetrates, I heard it penetrates deeper than an ice bath.

02:53:50.000 Oh, I heard the opposite.

02:53:51.000 But I've done ice baths my whole life.

02:53:52.000 They're fucking way different.

02:53:53.000 They hurt my toes and feet, so I'm always, like, trying to stick them out of the water.

02:53:57.000 They're a pain.

02:53:57.000 They're a pain to do.

02:53:58.000 How long do you sit in an ice bath, typically?

02:54:00.000 Fifteen.

02:54:01.000 Fifteen minutes, yeah.

02:54:02.000 I do them both.

02:54:03.000 There's a Korean bathhouse by my gym right next to it.

02:54:07.000 Do they have ice baths at a Korean bathhouse?

02:54:09.000 Oh yeah, I bet your sweet ass.

02:54:11.000 Why does my ass have to be sweet?

02:54:14.000 What am I betting?

02:54:15.000 I don't know.

02:54:16.000 That was aggressive.

02:54:19.000 You've never seen a small dick until you've gone to a Korean bathhouse.

02:54:23.000 Oh, what are you trying to say?

02:54:25.000 Is that racist?

02:54:26.000 No, it's science!

02:54:28.000 Does it smell like kimchi?

02:54:29.000 No.

02:54:30.000 You see all kinds of dicks at these places.

02:54:33.000 Ramen noodles is like Japanese.

02:54:35.000 Is it?

02:54:36.000 Do I? Either way, man, it's fucking tiny.

02:54:39.000 But before you put your daughter in the cryotherapy chamber, did you ever just have her take ice bath and did it help?

02:54:45.000 We put ice on her before, but she was two and a half when she got diagnosed.

02:54:49.000 So she didn't like ice, but then we're also getting things like the hyperbaric chambers.

02:54:54.000 So, you know, with her ailment or disease, you know, if she hasn't had a flare-up in a long time, it's because we feed her the right food.

02:55:02.000 She's gluten-free, sugar-free, dairy-free.

02:55:03.000 Did the hyperbaric chamber help?

02:55:05.000 I haven't put her in one yet.

02:55:06.000 I haven't got one yet.

02:55:06.000 But the adjustments that you've made in the diet, they've had a pretty big impact.

02:55:10.000 Having a low inflammatory food diet is...

02:55:14.000 So she was running by 10 months.

02:55:17.000 I mean, she's ahead of the curve, really smart.

02:55:20.000 Then to see her not being able to walk.

02:55:22.000 Poor little Craig.

02:55:23.000 Having brain fog that comes with RA. I mean, I was a mess.

02:55:30.000 You know, and seeing her trying to butt scoot, and then finally we started to do all the food.

02:55:34.000 The food has changed, and now she's...

02:55:36.000 We fixed her quickly.

02:55:38.000 We got on it right away.

02:55:39.000 And she's okay now?

02:55:40.000 Yeah, she's good.

02:55:40.000 You wouldn't notice it?

02:55:43.000 Oh, you would have no idea.

02:55:44.000 That's amazing.

02:55:44.000 I mean, there's no more...

02:55:45.000 Good for you guys.

02:55:46.000 She was limping a bit.

02:55:47.000 Sad, funny, I guess, whatever.

02:55:49.000 She got diagnosed when I tore my hip.

02:55:52.000 So we're both limping around the house and limping around Disneyland and limping around everywhere, but I think it maybe kind of made her feel better.

02:55:59.000 So what did you...

02:56:02.000 Dairy-free, gluten-free...

02:56:04.000 Processed sugar-free.

02:56:05.000 Processed sugar-free.

02:56:06.000 And how long did it take before you saw an impact?

02:56:09.000 Not long.

02:56:10.000 It took maybe a month or two.

02:56:13.000 And then after six months...

02:56:14.000 Pretty fast.

02:56:15.000 I mean, six months it was huge.

02:56:17.000 After a year, it was, I mean, gigantic now.

02:56:21.000 What else do you...

02:56:21.000 Do you give her any supplements, fish oil or anything along those lines?

02:56:25.000 Yeah, I mean, we mix in things like, you know, MCT oil or all this healthy stuff.

02:56:30.000 My family's very healthy.

02:56:31.000 My dad is the one that has kept this diet from falling apart, realistically.

02:56:36.000 I call him a food Nazi, but he's, you know, it's me and him raising my daughter together.

02:56:41.000 Actually, my mom just moved into my house.

02:56:43.000 My parents haven't been together for 15 years.

02:56:44.000 They're together now?

02:56:45.000 Now they live together, and I live there, and I'm like, oh, cool.

02:56:48.000 I live with my parents and my kid after...

02:56:53.000 Girls love that.

02:56:53.000 It's a clusterfuck, but I love them for it.

02:56:57.000 That's awesome.

02:56:57.000 So they're doing that to help you.

02:56:59.000 Yeah.

02:56:59.000 And help your daughter.

02:57:00.000 That's beautiful.

02:57:00.000 And my mom's a chef.

02:57:02.000 My dad's a very healthy guy.

02:57:03.000 So the food in my house is all geared around my daughter.

02:57:08.000 If I want to cheat on my diet, I have to leave my house.

02:57:11.000 And I have to feel bad.

02:57:12.000 And I have to just sit in my car and cry while I eat my gummy bears, you know?

02:57:17.000 That's great, man.

02:57:18.000 It's great that you could find something that quick that can make that big of an impact.

02:57:23.000 And like I said, with this diet that I'm on, it makes you really consider the impact that food has on your body.

02:57:30.000 And this is one of the reasons why I'm so harsh on that Chris Christie guys, because I don't want anybody that's a representative of the United States or of us or a leader that It shows this willingness to give in.

02:57:44.000 I want them to be exceptional.

02:57:45.000 I need a superhero.

02:57:46.000 Exactly, a superhero.

02:57:48.000 It's also having some discipline and understanding that there's some severe consequences to not having that discipline.

02:57:55.000 And when you're a massively overweight guy like that, the amount of aches and pains that guy is going through.

02:58:00.000 You're also a role model.

02:58:01.000 So when kids look up to you and they see this fat ass being the leader, they're like, well...

02:58:06.000 It's just amazing that a young girl who develops this horrible ailment can get relief so quickly just by adjusting your food.

02:58:16.000 It makes me never want to eat that shit again.

02:58:18.000 It really does.

02:58:19.000 It makes me want to cut all that stuff out of my life forever.

02:58:22.000 I think if Americans learned how to eat, we wouldn't have...

02:58:25.000 One of the biggest issues is always healthcare and stuff like that.

02:58:28.000 I wonder how many ailments would not be a factor if people ate...

02:58:32.000 Better.

02:58:32.000 Well, you know, I watched this documentary with my kids on corn syrup or on syrup and sugar.

02:58:39.000 I forget.

02:58:39.000 I think it's called That Sugar documentary.

02:58:42.000 And we went through the supermarket and you start grabbing things and looking at how much sugar is in everything.

02:58:47.000 Subsidized.

02:58:48.000 It's fucking in everything.

02:58:49.000 It's in everything.

02:58:50.000 It sucks.

02:58:51.000 And it's so deeply ingrained in everything we do, everything we eat.

02:58:56.000 Sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar.

02:58:57.000 It's, you know, Fed Up, that other documentary.

02:58:59.000 They point out so many good points.

02:59:02.000 That sounded weird.

02:59:03.000 But it all makes sense.

02:59:05.000 You turn around to anything and there's fucking sugar in it.

02:59:08.000 Yeah.

02:59:09.000 Everything is so manipulated.

02:59:10.000 When's the last time you guys had fast food?

02:59:14.000 Well, I haven't had anything anywhere near it in a month.

02:59:17.000 So I started this diet.

02:59:19.000 I was trying to figure out when I started.

02:59:20.000 I had to go back and look at the clock, or the calendar, rather.

02:59:22.000 February 1st was the first day that I started the diet.

02:59:25.000 Did you have fast food before that?

02:59:26.000 Well, yeah, I'm sure I did.

02:59:28.000 I ate at Cat's Deli when I was in New York, and I decided after I ate that, that was going to be my last blowout meals.

02:59:35.000 I had two pastrami sandwiches.

02:59:37.000 I had a Reuben and a corned beef sandwich.

02:59:39.000 Not mad at either of those.

02:59:40.000 Oh, it was delicious.

02:59:42.000 You don't miss that?

02:59:43.000 Nope.

02:59:44.000 Nope, I'm good.

02:59:45.000 If I wanted to, I could eat it.

02:59:47.000 But I don't want to.

02:59:48.000 No, man.

02:59:49.000 The benefits are...

02:59:50.000 For a little bit of mouth pleasure...

02:59:51.000 Here's the thing, dude.

02:59:52.000 You know what I really like?

02:59:53.000 I like steak.

02:59:55.000 Me too, man.

02:59:55.000 I like a fat, fucking juicy elk steak that I cook on the grill.

02:59:59.000 I like greens.

03:00:01.000 I like healthy food.

03:00:02.000 That's what I like.

03:00:03.000 When I sit down and I eat a nice elk steak with some fucking kale...

03:00:08.000 You feel good, man.

03:00:08.000 I feel great.

03:00:09.000 That's what I like.

03:00:10.000 That's what I crave.

03:00:10.000 I enjoy that.

03:00:11.000 That's my favorite kind of meal.

03:00:13.000 How long did it get you to take out carbs before you felt like that?

03:00:16.000 Dude, I'll tell you what, man.

03:00:17.000 I got a headache the first couple of days.

03:00:19.000 That was weird.

03:00:21.000 Where my body was like...

03:00:22.000 I hate to use the word detoxing.

03:00:24.000 Withdrawals.

03:00:25.000 Going through detoxing, man.

03:00:27.000 Detoxing, but that's what was going on.

03:00:29.000 It was sugar.

03:00:30.000 It was sugar.

03:00:31.000 The sugar, I think, was the headache thing.

03:00:33.000 Because I'd cut out sugar before and I got a headache.

03:00:36.000 I think that's what it is.

03:00:38.000 Can you drink on this at all?

03:00:39.000 Yeah, I can a little.

03:00:40.000 But I haven't been.

03:00:42.000 You ever try cutting out caffeine?

03:00:43.000 Coffee?

03:00:44.000 Whew.

03:00:44.000 Yeah, I tried to do that.

03:00:45.000 I had the straight sweat, son.

03:00:47.000 Fuck that.

03:00:48.000 I was shivering.

03:00:49.000 I love my coffee.

03:00:50.000 I love it too much.

03:00:52.000 When I write, when I write, like if I really sit down, I'm trying to finish something, I drink way too much caffeine.

03:00:58.000 And I took some time off after last time I did it.

03:01:01.000 This was a long time ago.

03:01:03.000 And last time I went on like a real binge where I was just drinking coffee all day, every day for like a month.

03:01:10.000 That'd be today.

03:01:11.000 And then I went...

03:01:12.000 Like, just one or two days off, and my head was killing me.

03:01:16.000 Just like, oh, like it was in a vice.

03:01:18.000 That was worse, well, it was probably like right up there with the sugar thing.

03:01:22.000 The sugar thing was, like for three days, two or three days, I was foggy.

03:01:26.000 Sugar would be a big hurdle for me.

03:01:28.000 Here's another big hurdle.

03:01:29.000 When you convert from your body eating mostly carbs and...

03:01:35.000 Like, using that for fuel to trying to go into ketosis and burn fat for fuel, you feel like a bitch.

03:01:41.000 Like, you're weak.

03:01:42.000 Like, when I go to the gym, I'm lifting weights, I'm trying to push, like, oh my god.

03:01:46.000 You still feel that way, or you did it initially?

03:01:48.000 No, it's gone.

03:01:49.000 It's gone.

03:01:49.000 I worked out today.

03:01:50.000 I felt great.

03:01:50.000 But the push part...

03:01:54.000 It's hard to get through things.

03:01:56.000 Transition.

03:01:56.000 You have to have discipline.

03:01:58.000 This is what you've got to do, man.

03:01:59.000 I didn't write this down because I knew I wasn't going to cheat.

03:02:03.000 This is what I'm going to do.

03:02:05.000 This is what I'm doing.

03:02:06.000 And so I did it.

03:02:07.000 But if you don't have that mindset or you're not used to doing that kind of thing, just write it down.

03:02:13.000 Write down what you're going to do today.

03:02:14.000 Today I'm not going to eat sugar.

03:02:16.000 I'm not going to eat carbs.

03:02:17.000 I'm not going to eat that.

03:02:17.000 And write that down every goddamn day.

03:02:19.000 And then check it off at the end of the day.

03:02:21.000 That way you know you did it.

03:02:23.000 If you just leave it to the ether, just put it out there and you're all wishy-washy with it, you're not going to be disciplined.

03:02:30.000 It's not an option.

03:02:33.000 I told you I had that dream when I was eating bread.

03:02:35.000 Yeah, it's like that shit.

03:02:36.000 I was dreaming.

03:02:37.000 But it was only cornbread.

03:02:38.000 I had a dream that I was eating cornbread.

03:02:40.000 I like cornbread.

03:02:41.000 I had a dream I was eating two different kinds of bread.

03:02:43.000 Who doesn't?

03:02:43.000 Farm bread and butter?

03:02:43.000 Oh!

03:02:44.000 There was another one that was like cheesy rolls that you get at like Fogo de Chao.

03:02:48.000 Those warm cheesy rolls.

03:02:50.000 Yep.

03:02:50.000 How about those cheddar biscuits that I'm having?

03:02:53.000 Fucking Red Lobster.

03:02:55.000 Mmm.

03:02:56.000 Yeah.

03:02:57.000 I don't go to Red Lobster.

03:02:58.000 Just hanging out in Brazil, walking around and grabbing those little bags of cheese balls.

03:03:02.000 Mmm.

03:03:02.000 I've never been to Brazil.

03:03:03.000 Oh, you gotta go, man.

03:03:04.000 Oh, it's great.

03:03:05.000 I give myself ten years, I'll look like Chris Christie.

03:03:07.000 Haha, you're fine.

03:03:08.000 No, I'm kidding.

03:03:09.000 He is fat.

03:03:10.000 I didn't know he was that fat.

03:03:13.000 Well, I didn't know he was that fat.

03:03:14.000 By the way, he's way, way, way lighter than he used to be.

03:03:18.000 Yeah, because you can't get your stomach stapled unless you're, like, fucking so fat.

03:03:21.000 Well, there was one picture where he's just morbidly obese.

03:03:24.000 Yeah, that was before.

03:03:26.000 That was after his surgery.

03:03:27.000 I want that guy's my friend picture.

03:03:28.000 They're not my president.

03:03:29.000 Where he's wearing those pants.

03:03:31.000 Yeah, I have a lot of fat friends.

03:03:33.000 Me too, and they're awesome.

03:03:34.000 Yeah.

03:03:35.000 Yeah.

03:03:35.000 Look, I have morbidly obese friends.

03:03:38.000 That's not the issue.

03:03:39.000 No, I don't have an issue with all that.

03:03:40.000 They're fun, man.

03:03:41.000 I wish I was more like them.

03:03:42.000 It's just like there's a position that is the most highly valued position in the world.

03:03:50.000 That's the President of the United States.

03:03:52.000 You've got to be an X-Man.

03:03:53.000 You gotta be a bad motherfucker.

03:03:54.000 You demand a lot from your president.

03:03:56.000 There's no one like that that's running right now.

03:04:00.000 That's very true.

03:04:00.000 No one fits that bill, and that's why it's so weird.

03:04:02.000 Because whoever fits that bill knows damn well they don't want to be president.

03:04:04.000 Exactly, they're too smart.

03:04:06.000 You're too smart.

03:04:06.000 Well, also the fact that everything about your past gets raked over with a fine-tooth comb.

03:04:11.000 Are we way over three hours right now?

03:04:13.000 Are we?

03:04:14.000 Yeah, we're way over.

03:04:15.000 All right, kids.

03:04:16.000 Thanks, Chris Christie.

03:04:18.000 Let's wrap this motherfucker up.

03:04:20.000 There he is.

03:04:20.000 Look at that.

03:04:21.000 Look at that, Brian.

03:04:22.000 Oh, no.

03:04:23.000 Post-surgery, by the way.

03:04:24.000 I thought he was just a big husky guy.

03:04:26.000 Come on, bro.

03:04:28.000 He deflated.

03:04:29.000 That's what it was.

03:04:30.000 The upper cock fat.

03:04:31.000 That's not even a manly gut.

03:04:33.000 A manly gut is like Joey Diaz.

03:04:36.000 Joey Diaz has a manly gut.

03:04:37.000 Can he see his cock?

03:04:39.000 No.

03:04:39.000 Or is it too pushed into the...

03:04:40.000 He can see it if he has a mirror.

03:04:41.000 It's a strange...

03:04:43.000 Interesting look, right?

03:04:44.000 He looks comfortable, though.

03:04:45.000 If he has a mirror and a good lounge chair.

03:04:47.000 Looks like somebody just put a bunch of warm cheese in a sack.

03:04:51.000 He looks comfortable.

03:04:52.000 Warm cheese in a sack.

03:04:53.000 Ladies and gentlemen, the end.

03:04:56.000 I love the fuck out of you guys.

03:04:57.000 Love you, too.

03:04:57.000 Love you, man.

03:04:58.000 So much fun to do.

03:04:59.000 Love you, buddy.

03:05:00.000 March 16th, Irvine Improv.

03:05:02.000 Brian Callen and myself.

03:05:03.000 I will be there.

03:05:04.000 I will be there with my beautiful girlfriend.

03:05:06.000 Oh, yeah?

03:05:06.000 Oh, beautiful.

03:05:06.000 Oh, yeah.

03:05:07.000 Tickets on us, my man.

03:05:09.000 Denver.

03:05:10.000 Ice House tonight.

03:05:11.000 I think there's like 10 tickets still left.

03:05:13.000 Greg Fitzsimmons, Jenny Johnson, Tony Hinchcliffe.

03:05:19.000 Damn.

03:05:19.000 Who the fuck else is on the show?

03:05:21.000 Someone else.

03:05:22.000 Who else?

03:05:22.000 Duncan.

03:05:23.000 Duncan Trussell, that's right.

03:05:24.000 God damn it.

03:05:25.000 That's it, you fucks.

03:05:27.000 And then Friday night at the Carr Theater at the MGM with Joey Diaz and Tony Hinchcliffe in Vegas.

03:05:34.000 Holla!

03:05:35.000 That's it, folks.

03:05:36.000 Thank you so much.

03:05:37.000 See you soon.

03:05:37.000 Bye-bye.

03:05:38.000 Oh, see you tomorrow with Bert Kreischer and Brian Redband.

03:05:41.000 See ya!

The Joe Rogan Experience - March 02, 2016

Joe Rogan Experience #768 - Ian McCall, Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen

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