In this episode, the brother and sister duo of the sit down with a good friend of theirs and talk about fishing and other things related to the outdoors. The boys talk about how they grew up fishing and what it's like to grow up in the boating and boating community, and how they got into the sport of ice fishing. They also talk about some of their favorite ice fishing spots in the area and some of the things they do to make the most out of their time on the water. Enjoy the episode and don't forget to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever else you re listening! Thanks for listening and Good Luck Out There! Don't Tell Mom: e-mail us what you thought of this episode and we'll get back to you next week with a new episode! Timestamps: 4:00 - What's your favorite fishing spot? 5:30 - What do you do to stay hydrated? 6:20 - How do you fish in the winter? 7:00 8:30 - What kind of fish do you catch and release? 9:40 - What s your favorite cold drink? 10:15 - What are you looking forward to catching and releasing? 11:20 12:15 13:40 15:50 - What is your favorite type of fish? 16:00 What santa? 17:00 Fishing trip? 18: What are your favorite kind of bait? 19: What type of catfish do you would like to catch? 20:00 Do you fish for ice fishing? 21: What s a good day? 22:00 Canoe? 25:00 Is your favorite meal? 26:00 How to catch an ice boat? 27:00 Are you fishing for an ice fishing day 29:00 Should you release and release a fish that you re going to fish for me? 30:30 What s an ice fisherman? 31:00 Have a question? 32:00 Would you like to add a fish you re fishing for me next week? 35:00 I m going to go out to a lake or a lake? ? 36:00 A little more? 37:00 Some other fishing trip 39:30 Do you have a fish I would you like me to come back to your house?
00:02:52.000So we'd creep in, and there was like a drop-off on this lake on the Butler chain, and like around sundown, just fish would just be right there.
00:02:59.000If you get to the drop-off, you could hit them.
00:06:20.000There's this place called Tahone Ranch that had this beautiful lake for largemouth bass, and we used to drop people on Fear Factor out of helicopters in this lake.
00:08:04.000When you say that New York has more haters, when you're becoming successful in New York, you felt like it's just much more criticism, much more scrutiny?
00:08:15.000Yeah, it's never like, yo, you did a great job.
00:08:59.000Yeah, I think for the most part, 80% of the feedback's terrible, but every once in a while, a lot of our lower thirds on the show, like the nicknames we use and shit, it's like fans in the YouTube comments leave them.
00:10:26.000Grandma had a nice dumpling over there.
00:10:28.000Especially if worried that the grandma might actually look at the picture with her granddaughter and be like, they're out there trying to come on my granddaughter's titties.
00:10:37.000Luckily, my parents are only on Facebook.
00:10:40.000My parents are fucking killing Facebook now.
00:10:42.000See, Facebook is the most transparent.
00:10:44.000You go right to someone's page and you see exactly who they are and it's a different animal.
00:11:42.000I mean, I'm real fortunate in that I would say that more than 99% of all the interactions I have with people online through social media are positive.
00:15:47.000Last year, I just turned 34 last month, and last year was the first year I was like, yo, I actually got a lot worse at basketball because I was getting incrementally better.
00:16:34.000For a lot of people, when you're sore, you know how, I guess, I don't play basketball and I'm terrible at it, but I would imagine that it's similar to Poole in that you've got to know exactly how much effort to put on that ball.
00:22:35.000Well, what that does is, those are exogenous ketones, and ketones is what your body burns off, and it's not burning off carbohydrates.
00:22:43.000There's a couple of benefits to it, and I'm not a scientist, and I'm not that smart, so I'm going to butcher this.
00:22:48.000But essentially, one of the biggest benefits is that when your body's eating carbs all the time, your body feeds off carbs, For me, at least, what I would do is I'd have these big peaks and then these crashes.
00:23:01.000Like, I would eat, and then after I ate, I was like a bear that got shot with a tranquilizer dart.
00:23:36.000Like, I've worked out after 16 hours of not eating and be fine.
00:23:39.000Like, what I'll do is I'll go to bed, like, early at night, and I'll work out at noon with nothing, eat nothing in between that time, and work out at noon and be fine.
00:23:48.000Bro, we sound like the girls I knew in high school, though.
00:30:01.000And the idea is the body's not designed to go to failure.
00:30:04.000The idea that going to failure all the time, you think, like, we have this idea in our head, and I'm guilty of it more than anybody, is that more is better.
00:30:10.000You know, I'm gonna fucking work harder than everybody else, and that's what's gonna do it.
00:30:14.000Well, that's not really the right way to do it when it comes to the human body.
00:30:17.000Because even though your mind can push your body to extreme limits, Oftentimes you get better results by not pushing your body to extreme limits, by pushing your body intelligently, allowing your body sufficient time to recover, and then doing it again.
00:30:31.000And then doing it more often, but with less repetitions.
00:32:52.000Minimalism, in a lot of ways, even in music.
00:32:56.000Sometimes you listen to an acoustic song, just a dude and a guitar, a woman and a guitar, and it's the best song you've ever heard, for that moment.
00:33:03.000I mean, if there was one more piece of fishing equipment on this shirt, it'd fucking suck.
00:33:29.000We started this idea, and then we went through it, did it on the internet.
00:33:32.000You know, eight minute clips, ten minute clips, and we did that for two years.
00:33:36.000And the last two years I haven't had any episodes out because we've just been grinding and we've been in the lab eight episodes and it took us eight years and I have to give respect you know a lot of people look at say other travel shows or Tony Bourdain and you hear a lot of people pitch things around town in New York Oh,
00:33:56.000yeah, this is like the new Tony Bourdain or that's the new Tony Bourdain.
00:34:50.000And I was like, Dad, I don't think that can be the point to my life.
00:34:53.000It can't be just to emulate you and be like you.
00:34:56.000And when it came to me doing this Vice stuff, I've been for five years figuring out how to get my voice and my story and the things I care about to translate to tape.
00:35:08.000And it maybe looked a lot easier than I thought it did, but once you get to it and you start to see what really makes these shows great, you want to honor it, you want to respect it, and you want to work hard.
00:35:19.000So we took two years to make these eight episodes.
00:37:02.000But it's even the people on your crew getting everybody to buy in and believe.
00:37:06.000We came back with the footage and these things, it gets in a post and then everybody who gets to watch it in post has an opinion about what this show should be.
00:37:15.000And I just, I fought and fought and fought all eight of these episodes.
00:37:21.000And all eight of them are exactly how I feel about the places I visited and the people we met.
00:37:26.000And my biggest struggle was travel shows, they voice over a lot.
00:37:30.000There's a lot of voice over and it's almost like these shows are written before people go to these towns and these cities.
00:37:37.000And what the people say sometimes doesn't matter because the producer or whoever is going has already decided the story he wants to tell.
00:37:44.000I go out there And we booked the scenes, and the thing that made everybody nervous in pre-production was, I was like, I don't know what these people are gonna say, and we're gonna live with the footage.
00:37:54.000And they're like, no, you have to have an idea, you have to direct the conversation, we need to write voiceover, and we need to set it up.
00:38:01.000And I was like, let's just go to these towns, meet these people, and let them tell us about their lives, their cities, their identities, and accept the footage.
00:38:10.000And I think being honest, accepting footage, not manipulating the footage with a ton of voiceover is the real innovation of our show.
00:38:36.000Fucking red tuna, olive oil, you know?
00:38:38.000But I'm going through these countries and exploring their history and identity just through what they eat.
00:38:44.000Because what you eat tells you so much about who you are, your culture, your values, your politics, and your history, and what has happened to your ancestors.
00:40:03.000There's a lot of violence people are afraid to go outside and This is one of the symbolic things that the youth out there do is they try to take back the city in the town and By riding through it with bikes.
00:41:33.000I can't remember if it's they did the shows in El Paso and went to Juarez to party after, or it's they did the show in Juarez and went to the taco stand because they did have a venue next door to this thing.
00:41:42.000So I think it's some bands did El Paso, came over, some bands did the venue next to the taco spot and went over, but it was a combination.
00:41:48.000The Rolling Stones, I can't remember if they were El Paso or Juarez, but there were tons of bands in that triangle going back and forth between the border.
00:41:56.000And people would come across the border to party in Juarez, and it was a thing.
00:42:12.000You know, they would all talk about donkey shows and all the crazy shit that you'd go over there and see, but it was never like, don't go to Tijuana because of drug violence.
00:42:56.000The murders are real, but then the thing is, is that we have to remember, in all these towns, you see these murders, you see the gang violence, there's real people living through that shit.
00:43:05.000There's real people trying to live normal lives, and that's why we did this episode on the border towns in Mexico.
00:43:11.000We went to Tijuana, Mexicali, and Juarez, and we tried to show the lives that these people are trying to live next to a superpower.
00:43:20.000Because just by the sheer nature and geography of them living on the border next to a superpower, of course, crime is going to leak into their towns.
00:43:29.000The dirt's going to be done on their side.
00:43:30.000The product's going to be sent to our side.
00:43:32.000And so we tried to capture their lives.
00:43:35.000That's an example of one episode of the show.
00:43:37.000Well, the other problem is their economy is completely connected to the United States in a lot of ways.
00:43:44.000There's plenty of violence in America that we don't even consider.
00:44:14.000But I mean, that's sort of the same way people have to look at about Mexico, although I do have to tell you this one story.
00:44:20.000I went to this resort recently in Mexico near Puerto Vallarta, and I was like, wow, this place is so pretty.
00:44:26.000How is it that Mexico has all this drug violence and all these problems, but there's this beautiful resort, and all these wealthy people go to vacation at this resort, and they have these little golf carts that they give you on the resort to move around the resort.
00:44:39.000And we took the golf cart, and they're like, you can go into the city if you like.
00:44:42.000You know, you can take the golf carts anywhere you want.
00:44:44.000It's like, alright, let's go into the city.
00:44:45.000So we go into the city, and we went a block from that resort.
00:44:51.000And we found a fucking small military base with Armored vehicles with dudes sitting on there on machine guns with steel plates in front of them ready to rock at a moment's notice.
00:45:03.000So that's how they keep these wealthy people protected.
00:45:08.000I was like, wow, this is a wake-up call right here.
00:45:10.000And that's the thing that our leaders never do a good job of.
00:45:14.000That violence on the South Side of Chicago, that should affect all Americans, but it doesn't.
00:45:18.000And until it affects somebody who doesn't live in the South Side, and the murder accidentally bleeds into the wrong neighborhood on the North Side, nobody really cares.
00:46:29.000And the thing is, is that the world needs more transparency and mobility, right?
00:46:33.000The thing that I noticed for two years traveling around the globe, going to all these places, Mediterranean, Sicily, where there's the immigration issues, Istanbul, You know, Mexico on the borders.
00:46:44.000We need transparency because the leaders of this world are drawing lines all around creating divisions that are not there between me and you or Jamie or people in Mexico that I met, you know?
00:46:57.000And we need to have mobility because it can't just be my dumb luck that I was born in America.
00:48:10.000Yeah, well, stockpiling wealth is a weird thing, right?
00:48:13.000When people get to this point where they just constantly...
00:48:15.000Well, if you have billions and billions of dollars, but yet you're still involved and constantly trying to accumulate wealth, that's a little weird, too.
00:49:20.000It's interesting, but someone who makes more than $500 million could take that money and start a gigantic business and hire hundreds of millions of people.
00:49:29.000Did you just promote Reaganomics, Broke?
00:49:55.000And some people are more dedicated to that game, and they try to accumulate constantly.
00:50:00.000I mean, if I was more dedicated to just doing the things that I do, if I was more dedicated in a capitalist sense, I would accumulate more money.
00:50:10.000My personal belief is that it would fuck with me creatively because it would take away resources that I use for other things.
00:50:16.000It would fuck with the way I do the podcast.
00:50:19.000If you only think about how much money you can make, there's certain things you wouldn't say, there's certain ways you wouldn't speak.
00:50:24.000And the irony in my business is that would ultimately cost me money because my product would suffer.
00:50:30.000So I think in a lot of ways the game of capitalism itself, just calling it a game, It's very problematic if you have a cap on how much money you can make in that game.
00:50:44.000Because there's always going to be these outliers, these Michael Jordans of sport that take things to the fucking nth level and go deep and want to make as much money as they possibly can.
00:50:52.000And I don't necessarily think that that's bad.
00:50:55.000I think you should have the freedom to be fucking crazy.
00:50:59.000If you want to be the first guy that makes a hundred billion dollars, you should have the freedom to do that.
00:51:03.000But As a human being who makes that much money, you also should have an understanding of what kind of an impact you can have on other people with that money.
00:51:14.000From your own personal perspective, you can take that money and invest it in different communities.
00:51:22.000You could do all this amazing stuff with that money that you wouldn't be able to do if somebody put a cap and said you can only make 500 million bucks.
00:51:28.000But here's the way I see money, right?
00:53:16.000We're going to redistribute the wealth!
00:53:19.000No, I think that you have to then find a way to distribute it through nonprofits and things like that.
00:53:25.000Right, and then you get like Red Cross, where like 80% of the money goes to bullshit.
00:53:30.000It doesn't even go to the actual people.
00:53:31.000We would have to build a better infrastructure.
00:53:33.000We would have to build a better infrastructure for social services and public interest and things like that.
00:53:38.000Because yes, the non-profit sector, a lot of the times it's super ineffective at remedying the issues that everybody's giving them money for.
00:53:45.000Well, the problem is that there's so much money involved in red tape and bullshit and employees and overhead and all the different operating costs.
00:53:54.000When you look at the actual operating costs involved in charities and you compare it to how much money actually goes to the charity that you're sending money to, it's disturbing.
00:54:24.000Like, when you don't have money, like when I was young, and I didn't have any money, man, I remember the first check that I got, I got a big check from Disney.
00:54:31.000I got a development deal when I was like 24. And all of a sudden, I didn't have to worry about my bills.
00:54:37.000It was the first time in my life I didn't have to worry about my bills.
00:54:40.000And I was like, my rent is taken care of this month.
00:55:03.000Because that feeling was a revelation as far as like how much stress I was under and most people are under on a daily basis.
00:55:09.000So because of that stress, what people think about is, man, I got to make money because that is the way to get away from this fucking stress.
00:55:54.000He's like, some people, they just want to live.
00:55:56.000And so after the salary cap, after $500 million, what if that money from those billionaires and one percenters goes into guaranteeing A baseline amount of wealth.
00:56:07.000Maybe it's $30,000 and it goes to American people who are not making that much money.
00:57:51.000If you take people from scratch and make them entitled from scratch and just have them programmed to think that money comes free and it's coming off, then you have a nation of spoiled kids.
00:58:02.000You ever seen a spoiled kids that come from rich parents that get everything they want?
00:59:57.000It's also about understanding yourself and knowing that you can accomplish things.
01:00:00.000And not just accomplish things from a financial standpoint, but accomplish things as far as going on a diet and taking care of your health, pursuing an athletic goal, pursuing a creative goal of finishing a book or writing a manuscript.
01:00:12.000There's a lot of things that people won't do if you just give them money.
01:00:39.000In this country, if you look at the amount of people in this country that have baseline need issues and how much money they earn as opposed to the rest of the world, there's a crazy statistic that I've quoted before.
01:00:52.000If you make more than $34,000 a year, you are in the 1% of the world.
01:01:10.000Yeah, there's a few cases, not a few, there's tons of cases where you don't pay your parking tickets, they pull you over again, late parking tickets, they'll end up putting you in jail.
01:01:21.000I think it was in- I think there was a couple cases in Ferguson, Missouri that people were talking about last year with a woman, a couple people, who did not have the money to pay their parking tickets or traffic violations, and then over time, you can't pay.
01:02:21.000And not only that, you have this fucking asshole on a bus or this little scooter thing that goes around and gives tickets and marks your tire with chalk to make sure that you've...
01:02:32.000Not been parking there for more than 90 minutes.
01:04:02.000Well, we have to figure out a way to make the hands that people are dealt with in life far easier to move with.
01:04:10.000And there's a lot of people that are dealt with a fucking terrible, shitty hand, and we just turn a blind eye towards these terrible, impoverished communities that are fucking filled with crime, and these children that grow up there, by the time they get to be 17 and 18, they've seen so much shit, and the programming in their mind is so...
01:04:29.000It's so disturbing because everything that they've been involved with, everything they've seen, they've seen loved ones get incarcerated, they've seen people get shot, they've seen crime, they've seen a lack of hope, they've seen police brutality, they've seen all these terrible things.
01:04:43.000That is what we need to clean up in this country, not keep people from making tons of money.
01:04:48.000Well, the thing is, alright, if I take the salary cap thing away, my idea is this, though, is I want to guarantee a baseline of living for people in America.
01:06:35.000I'm privileged because my parents, maybe they beat the crap out of me, maybe they were hard on me, but I never...
01:06:42.000I never didn't feel like I had a chance if I worked hard.
01:06:45.000There's a lot of people in this world that just for 20 years they've lived in America and they're like, even if I worked hard, even I see my parents working hard, we just never got the opportunities.
01:09:58.000If he wanted to retire young and step away, I mean, I guarantee you he probably made somewhere in the neighborhood of five million bucks for the Jose Alda fight.
01:10:10.000He probably made more than that for the Nate Diaz fight.
01:10:13.000I would imagine after he spent a fuckload of it, he's probably still got a few million bucks laying around.
01:10:27.000The only reason why it would make sense, the only reason why it would make sense is Conor had actually thought about retiring from MMA before he got the call for the UFC. There was a point in time where he had some friends that were experiencing some serious health issues from fighting and then most recently that young man from the Portuguese guy died in an MMA contest which I think took place in the UK. Wasn't...
01:11:37.000If I had to guess, I'd say he's trolling and fucking around with people.
01:11:39.000If he decided, I'm gonna retire young, and then, like I said, like one day or two days later, which means around 34. You know, he's like 28 now.
01:11:48.000I mean, if he's smart, he will retire young.
01:15:34.000Alcohol intoxication where you kind of see things for what they are because the the veil that's in front of your mind the veil of inhibition and Struggle and bullshit and insecurity is removed by that alcohol for the most part alcohol makes people a lot of makes a lot of people assholes Because they lose their inhibitions,
01:15:56.000because they get cocky, because they don't have fear anymore.
01:16:09.000But when someone's an asshole when they're drunk, I usually find that's incredibly revealing of who they're trying not to be when they're sober.
01:16:15.000Like what they're hiding from you when they're sober.
01:16:17.000It usually is like revealing of the demons inside of them.
01:17:17.000I knew some people that had been into trouble and I learned from other people's experiences.
01:17:21.000No, I've never been a fan of drunks, especially girls.
01:17:24.000Like, I just feel like if you're on a date with someone, If you date a drug addict or you date an alcoholic or something like that, man, the burden of just getting to know someone, enjoying their company and being even with each other and enjoying each other's company, it's hard enough to figure out if you're compatible with someone socially without this monkey on their back.
01:17:45.000Someone's got a heroin problem and you're going to date a girl with a heroin problem.
01:17:49.000I have a buddy, my buddy Brian Callen.
01:18:15.000Yeah, but some guys are like, yeah, she's just alone, and she just needs a friend, and you know, once they clean up, I mean, we all make mistakes.
01:18:25.000Here's the reality of Captain Save-A-Hose.
01:18:28.000When you find someone's problems are greater than your own, it lets you concentrate on things other than your problems, which you are not fixing because you are a lazy fuck.
01:18:39.000And people find really strange ways to procrastinate.
01:18:42.000And one of the ways they find to procrastinate is to create other problems in their life that take precedent over the problem that they're avoiding.
01:19:48.000So you have to figure out a way to either make more money, you have to figure out a way to get a better business, or operate with less employees.
01:19:56.000The only thing that they have to do is they have to help subsidize the small mid-sized businesses to compete with like the Walmarts and the Best Buys and the Targets.
01:20:05.000Tax incentives and things like that to the small mid-sized businesses because to absorb this new salaries right now immediately, the big companies have a lot more of a cushion and a margin to absorb this shit.
01:21:57.000I mean, all these restrictions on behavior and what you can and can't do are a gigantic part of the problem with the fiber of our economy and the fiber of our culture.
01:22:07.000We've got all these weird restrictions that are in place that are archaic and don't make any sense.
01:22:12.000And when you accept one thing that doesn't make any sense, well then it leaves room for a lot of other weird shenanigans, like Ted Cruz wanted to lock people up for dildos.
01:22:22.000This dumb motherfucker is really close to being president.
01:22:25.000Ted Cruz was trying to pass a law that would put you in jail for having dildos.
01:22:31.000Pull this up, Jamie, because this is just one of the most hilarious things about this dumbass that people are trying to force down the American public's face because the Republican candidates are all a joke other than Donald Trump.
01:22:42.000No one can get past that guy, and he's a joke.
01:22:44.000No one can get past that guy, so the Republicans are panicking.
01:22:48.000They don't know what to do, so they put this fucking Ted Cruz dummy in, not knowing there's a million different things that are wrong with him.
01:22:54.000The time Ted Cruz defended a ban on dildos, his legal team argued that there was no right to stimulate one's genitals.
01:23:03.000In one chapter of his campaign book, A Time for Truth, Senator Ted Cruz proudly chronicles his day as a Texas Solicitor General, a post that he held from 2003 to 2008. Bolstering his conservative cred, the Republican president candidate notes that during his stint as the state's chief lawyer in front of the Supreme Court and federal state appellate courts,
01:23:23.000he defended the inclusion of under God in the Pledge of Allegiance, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:26:00.000Because this is not getting discussed in the news hardly at all.
01:26:03.000It's some, not enough, but it's basically people, leaders of countries, like the British Prime Minister's dad and Brazil, the guy Brazil's involved, but there's people, leaders, presidents, prime ministers have been keeping their money in offshore accounts Not paying the taxes that they owe in their country and keeping this money off the books.
01:26:27.000And then somebody gave this information from a law firm that does most of these transactions and it's now being published.
01:26:35.000So you can see where all the money is being hidden.
01:29:48.000I'm glad people are looking at it that way, though, that they've ostracized him instead of like concentrating only on the guy who is banging other girls, you know?
01:29:59.000The priorities are totally, definitely solid.
01:30:02.000Yeah, priorities in that case, because regardless of whether or not the guy who did the deed shouldn't have done it or should have done it, like whatever your opinions are about cheating...
01:30:40.000But no, it was interesting though, because that same week, it was this girl Kalani had supposedly, people had assumed she had cheated on her boyfriend who was in the NBA, Kyrie Irving, right?
01:30:52.000So then this D'Angelo thing happened, but when it was the girl, everyone beat her up over cheating or whatever, and she actually didn't.
01:35:31.000Single Asiatic male seeks ride-or-die chick is that that's perfect like it cool, but it's funny cool See when it's funny.
01:35:38.000It's cool But there's one of you this is just for all the boys out there listening Okay, and girls too if you're lesbians if you go to a girl's page And it's all this stuff about love and what true love is and you when you find the one you'll know Fucking run.
01:37:57.000Because he's white isn't wrong, but it's the Quan.
01:38:01.000You remember like in Jerry Maguire, they're like, the Quan.
01:38:03.000The thing with a lot of these chefs that win these awards, the food and wine, best new chef, Michelin, fucking James Beard...
01:38:10.000It's a lot of the times because they can speak English, they can communicate with the writers, and the writers can write a story about them.
01:38:17.000They're not winning because it's the best food.
01:38:20.000They're winning because there's a story to write and a story to tell.
01:38:23.000And Rick Bayless, being a white guy from Oklahoma, cooking Maybe slightly above average Mexican food is a story.
01:38:54.000Like, if you're a stand-up comedian, okay?
01:38:56.000And you open up a comedy club, and some whack-ass comedian comes to perform.
01:39:00.000If you're a stand-up comedian, and you open up a comedy club, and some whack-ass comedian comes and performs at your comedy club, no one says, hey, Joey Diaz's comedy club, I went there the other day, and this guy went up and performed, this guy sucks, so Joey Diaz must be a bad comedian.
01:39:14.000Like, if you were gonna judge Rick Bayless, you would have to judge him by his own cooking.
01:40:18.000For all the accolades he has, it's not the best.
01:40:21.000But also, there's a bit of a thing with food that...
01:40:26.000The literati, the intelligentsia, the blogs, the magazines, they're always electing people that they can tell a story about, speak English, have this shishi dining room.
01:40:38.000They always talk about the food, but it's not.
01:40:41.000And I think that people of ethnic cultures, from the background of Mexican food and things like that, people get upset when there's somebody else that didn't live the life, didn't grow up with it, isn't The best at it, representing it.
01:40:56.000Like, if it's gonna be somebody from the outside, he better be the fucking best.
01:40:58.000Otherwise, get somebody who lived this life and knows all the history and identity and culture attached to this food and let them speak for their own food.
01:41:05.000Okay, I think part of the problem of this conversation is you want to talk about the restaurant this guy runs.
01:41:11.000And I'm saying you haven't had his food as a chef.
01:41:15.000And what I've read is that he makes excellent Mexican food and he really is a student of the culture and is enamored by Mexican culture and Mexican traditions and he's essentially a scholar of Mexican food.
01:41:53.000I just feel like, you know, if you're leaving it to someone else to do it, I mean, you might have had the bad...
01:41:57.000It's like, if you're an architect and, you know, you're a builder of a house and someone comes along and does a shitty job building your creation, are you responsible?
01:42:06.000Well, if you were supposed to oversee every single aspect of the construction, yes.
01:42:10.000I'll even get beyond him because I don't think he's done anything wrong.
01:42:13.000And this is the one thing in this discussion that I feel is unfair to some of these chefs, especially the white chefs.
01:42:18.000It's not their fault that journalists and people want to give them more.
01:42:25.000The problem, though, is the media and the people giving these awards and the ones selecting saying, this is the best chef, this is the best Mexican food...
01:42:33.000It's really obnoxious to the people of that culture that are like, dude, that's not really representing who we are, but now this guy's representing our food in America, and he's the one you go to for information.
01:44:25.000And then also, Connie's Seafood in Inglewood is one of the best Mexican restaurants you'll ever eat at.
01:44:30.000So there's some excellent Mexican restaurants.
01:44:32.000But my point being, does this guy, so you think it's deserved, that he's getting shit, not because he's the best Mexican, because he's getting all these accolades, not because he's the best, but because it's easy to write a story about him because he's a white guy from Oklahoma.
01:44:46.000And he's very articulate when it comes to this culture.
01:44:49.000And the people that select the gatekeepers and the people who speak for culture, they're picking a guy that they can communicate with easily, makes their job easy, and can tell a story that's easily disseminated amongst the masses.
01:45:04.000And I don't think it's Rick Bayless' fault.
01:45:05.000I don't think Rick Bayless has done anything wrong Like, in this context ever.
01:45:10.000It's the media selecting him as, you are now the spokesperson for Mexican food in America.
01:45:56.000It was a delicious hamburger, but it wasn't a hamburger.
01:45:59.000It tasted like they had a Philly cheesesteak and my buddy was like, he's from Van Nuys, he ate it and he was like, listen, I have so many friends that are Mexican or Asian growing up in LA that get mad when white people or people not of the culture make their food and they're like,
01:46:25.000And he goes, I never understood why they got mad until I ate this Philly cheesesteak because this is not a Philly cheesesteak.
01:46:31.000This is like stir-fried beef in bread.
01:46:35.000And they should call it the Hunan Hoagie because it tastes good, but it is not a Philly cheesesteak.
01:46:39.000And I love Philly cheesesteaks and I love hamburgers.
01:46:42.000And it's like when you see something that you love being called something else and being represented a different way, it's upsetting because that's your identity.
01:46:49.000But Rick Bayless, in his defense, does follow traditional Mexican cooking methods and makes food that tastes like Mexican food.
01:47:00.000But the thing is, is that he's a fan and he's a degree removed.
01:47:03.000And it's like, if you're gonna go to a source, why not just go to the source?
01:47:07.000For many cultures, you know, like Andy Ricker is a really good friend of mine.
01:47:12.000But when people talk about Thai food in America, they go to him and he's a white guy from Portland.
01:47:16.000To Andy's credit, and he is one of my best friends and I love him for this, he puts the names of the Thai people that taught him things on his menu.
01:47:23.000As much as he can, he pushes the credit and he pushes people towards the Thai people he learned from so they can get it from the source.
01:47:29.000But these journalists are fucking lazy.
01:47:48.000Have you ever dealt with, like, douchey journalists that you felt like were kind of out to get you?
01:47:55.000Yeah, there's a few people that I've done interviews with in the first five minutes that could tell they're out to get me, but then once they can tell I'm pretty genuine and honest and straightforward, they're like, alright, I'll level with this guy.
01:48:14.000It's harder and harder to do that these days, too, because of the internet.
01:48:19.000You know, if someone writes a shitty review, it's so easy to out that person and describe what exactly was going on behind the scenes and who that person really is.
01:48:25.000And I respond on IG, Twitter, YouTube.
01:51:34.000Non-fiction, it's hard to keep putting yourself out there in the most honest way.
01:51:39.000So I started writing fiction because I want to write about my life, but I want to kind of ground it in other characters and things like that and explore it and work through the ideas.
01:53:59.000Jazz song or it'll be like Smith and Wesson or Lana Del Rey or Can't Blow and I'll just play that song looped for hours and hours and hours and it gets in a trance because you stop listening to the song.
01:55:30.000I used to write a bunch of different stuff, but now primarily what I do is I write essays, and out of those essays, I take stand-up ideas.
01:55:37.000I used to write a lot of blog entries, but I found out that a lot of those blog entries would eventually become stand-up, and it was almost like I was giving people a preview of the stand-up.
01:55:45.000I'm like, better to write them for myself and then just steal from them.
01:56:29.000And for me personally, I'm like, you know what?
01:56:31.000I'd like to be in the lab and just only put something out and I put out a lot of shit about my life in the last few years, so I'm kind of making sure I really want to share these things now.
01:57:09.000Yeah, we're going to learn a lot about ourselves constantly.
01:57:12.000I mean, we're always learning about ourselves, but I think this internet thing, people are starting to see, wow, I put a lot of my shit out there.
01:57:47.000When I was going to school, nobody knew shit.
01:57:49.000You heard a rumor about some girl across town that jerks some dude off, and you're like, whoa, you hear about that?
01:57:54.000Let me go jerk off and think about that.
01:57:57.000But nobody put it out there in that way where the rest of the world could look at it, and the rest of the world can see virtually anything that you put online today.
01:58:06.000It's just a strange thing because when you're young, you also don't understand the consequences.
01:59:37.000In millions and millions of hits within a day because people recognize it and they were disgusted by it and then people are also tired of all these Self-appointed gatekeepers self-appointed, you know people that can tell people one of the beautiful things about culture is that culture can be shared and that people can like like me I grew up learning taekwondo and in teaching classes in Korean because I grew up that's what I spent my life doing and And so that culture became a part of my culture.
02:00:07.000It's not like I was stealing it or culturally appropriating it.
02:00:09.000I was doing it honor and trying to do it justice.
02:00:12.000But people have decided it's another new way for someone to stand above them and take the moral high ground and try to control people's behavior.
02:00:31.000When it becomes something about intention, and we're talking about intentions, and we're talking about, like, are you trying to take a culture?
02:00:57.000Like, my opinion about Mexican food doesn't matter, shouldn't matter.
02:01:00.000But my opinion about this appropriation, co-optation stuff is I wish people didn't have to have a gatekeeper or a tour guide or somebody culturally similar for them to try this food or go to this neighborhood.
02:01:18.000I would love if people didn't have to have a shishi dining room with like American-style service or a whiteface or a great article to try this Mexican food.
02:01:29.000I wish they would just go to the neighborhood and go to the source.
02:01:32.000And then there's no problem with Rick Bayless's food if we're all informed about it.
02:01:37.000It's just tough when he is the point of entry.
02:01:40.000Well, cultural appropriation to me is really when you're pretending you're a part of a culture.
02:01:45.000Like if a dude pretends he's Native American and starts wearing feathers in his hair and shit like that.
02:01:53.000Well, it's also real cultural appropriation if you're wearing something that's supposed to be sacred.
02:01:56.000Like there's certain articles of clothing that in some cultures are considered sacred and you're not supposed to be just walking around on them.
02:03:50.000Anybody that tells little white lies maybe, they'll watch Rachel Dolezal or someone else who got busted in some gigantic cataclysmic lie and go, oh, that's why you shouldn't lie.
02:04:01.000Oh, that's why honesty and integrity are very important to people.
02:04:05.000We communicate through noises that we make with our face that's supposed to level out the intent of your mind.
02:04:11.000What people also don't realize is, a lot of the times, they think that we're friends with them for the peripheral shit, but I think most people, like, good people that you actually want to be your friends, they're not your friend because you have dreadlocks, they're not your friend because you're aping or you're doing this shit.
02:04:27.000They're your friend because they fucking like you.
02:04:47.000And then if people don't like you, we'll figure out why they don't like you and improve upon whatever aspect of your life that needs improving.
02:07:39.000I think they said within 99% certainty that there's a gigantic planet somewhere around four to five times the size of the Earth that is out way, way, way past Jupiter.
02:07:53.000And so I was going to a lot of these YouTube videos that were describing it and then reading the comments.
02:09:08.000Yeah, and this was 6,000 years ago when a lot of people didn't even think that the world, they thought the world was flat, right?
02:09:14.000But it also depicted this What they believe is one of the things that the Sumerian texts describe is this elliptical orbit of this planet called Nibiru.
02:09:26.000And this planet is the outside edge of our solar system.
02:09:33.000In this Zacharias Hitchin translation, I think it was 3,600-something years, and that this is where the Anunnaki came from.
02:09:41.000And what they did is they came down here, they studied some lower hominids, they introduced their DNA into these lower hominids and made human beings.
02:09:49.000And so he had predicted this planet being outside of our solar system for a long time.
02:10:00.000The size of the orbit is different compared to what he described.
02:10:05.000No, we don't even have a picture of it, so we definitely don't know what it looks like.
02:10:10.000But the Anunnaki, as described by Zacharias Hitchin, is the same thing as in the biblical term of the Elohim.
02:10:21.000There's also different descriptions of these giants that came from somewhere else.
02:10:27.000I think the description of Anunnaki, what it means is those from heaven to earth came.
02:10:32.000And the idea is that these advanced beings came down here and genetically engineered human beings.
02:10:38.000It's widely discredited by other scholars of ancient Babylonian and Sumerian culture, but fun as shit to pretend and read and wonder, well, what if he's right, man?
02:10:51.000But see, when you do look at some of the stuff, though, you go, okay, well, how did they know about the solar system?
02:10:56.000How did they know about all those planets?
02:10:58.000Not only that, they had the caduceus, the symbol for medicine, and It's also the double helix of DNA, and that's what he believes it represented.
02:11:07.000He believes that Caduceus symbol that they had represents DNA, and that that's what the ancient Sumerian people were trying to describe when they carved these things into clay tablets.
02:11:22.000They were trying to, as best they could, Make some sort of a rational, logical depiction of what they are being told by these ancient people.
02:12:20.000There's also some weird shit in terms of some of the imagery that they had.
02:12:25.000The solar system one is one of the most telling because it's really bizarre that without a telescope they were able to draw a detailed image of the solar system.
02:12:43.000Not only that, they also had a detailed depiction of the creation of the moon.
02:12:47.000They have two, you know, scientists and astronomers, they have Earth 1 and Earth 2, meaning that Earth was a certain size and a certain shape in the beginning, and then it was hit by another planet.
02:12:59.000That's also in the ancient Sumerian depiction of how the universe was created, or how the solar system was created.
02:13:06.000There's a planet called Marduk and Tiamat, and Tiamat collided with Marduk or something like that, I forget exactly what they, but essentially it's Earth-1 and Earth-2.
02:13:16.000It's the same model that actual astrologers or astronomers use today when they're describing the Earth.
02:13:24.000But he thinks these people from the other planet came here and created humans.
02:14:05.000And this was what he believed was describing the Anunnaki's genetic alterations of monkeys, of taking these lower hominids, introducing their superior advanced DNA into these monkeys, and creating something that's very different.
02:15:28.000But if you look at that image that you had pulled up before, Jamie, there's an image of one of those Anunnaki having a little monkey-like person sitting in their lap.
02:15:38.000It's before when you had some of those other images.
02:15:42.000There's these ones where these guys, these enormous-looking characters, have these little tiny monkey people with thumbs on their feet, and they're sitting on this guy's lap.
02:16:19.000But that's one of them that's similar, but this is Egyptian.
02:16:23.000You're looking at something that's Egyptian.
02:16:27.000But the Anunnaki one, you had had it from just, if you go back to that window that you had before, go back to that window that you had before that had the depiction of the solar system.
02:16:37.000Yeah, because when you went, whatever search that you used for that, there was one of them that had, one of those homeboys had one of them sitting on his lap.
02:16:46.000Right up there, right up there at the top.
02:18:06.000Isn't it better to be at the top of the food chain than to be waiting for our galactic overlords to tell us how much we suck?
02:18:12.000It would be just awesome if somebody showed up like, this is what life's about, this is what you're supposed to do, Eddie, your fucking ideas are terrible.
02:18:22.000It would be devastating to the self-esteem of people living on Earth, I'll tell you that, because they would realize...
02:18:26.000We would be like very Lord of the Flies-esque.
02:18:29.000Like, we were a bunch of kids left alone to our own devices, and then when the adults showed up, they're like, what the fuck are you doing?
02:18:36.000You know, and you realized everybody's just...
02:18:38.000Acting like a psychopath, because they have no one to look over them.
02:18:42.000It would be cool, though, if I've been doing it all wrong, I kind of want to know what the hell we're supposed to do.
02:18:47.000Well, we're definitely doing it all wrong.
02:18:49.000But I think we're supposed to figure it out on our own.
02:18:51.000Look, if we've got Ted Cruz, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, and Bernie Sanders, there are only hopes to be the commander-in-chief of the greatest army the world has ever known.
02:19:03.000These are not the great scholars and the great intellectuals that we need to help run this world.
02:19:10.000There's no one amongst them that has a brilliant philosophy.
02:19:13.000Even when you're looking at Bernie and Hillary, and Bernie, as much as I love him and as much as I love some of his ideas, you see that guy and Hillary and they're bickering back and forth during these debates.
02:19:24.000That's so unbecoming of someone who's supposed to be the president.
02:19:39.000Like, you're supposed to be further along in this crazy journey than us.
02:19:43.000If you want to be the president, you should be so far ahead that you have some lessons that you can impart upon the rest of us.
02:19:49.000You have some ideas about how we can improve our policies.
02:19:52.000You have some ideas on what laws that we can establish that would probably be better to protect us from greed and from evil corporations and from people that are raping the world of all its natural resources.
02:20:17.000Not Illuminati, but I just think that, I mean, for some of these people, like Michael Bloomberg, why would Bloomberg run?
02:20:24.000Bloomberg can already fucking call shots from where he's at.
02:20:26.000He has more money than fucking anybody.
02:20:28.000Well, maybe he feels like the system is broken and he's in a situation to give his life meaning and maybe enhance the lives of other people by helping.
02:20:38.000I don't know, because I don't know him.
02:20:39.000I'm not even familiar with him, but I'm just playing devil's advocate.
02:20:43.000Devil's advocate would say that, I mean, if you have all that money and you have all that freedom, why wouldn't you try to make the world a little bit of a better place?
02:20:50.000Yeah, I agree, but I think that they can do it in a different way.
02:20:54.000I mean, look, the Koch brothers, I mean, they're using their means to mold the world the way they see it.
02:21:01.000I think the people who really have power, they're like looking at the president and say, that guy's a puppet, you know?
02:21:06.000Well, it's definitely been shown to be a puppet more than once.
02:21:10.000More than one different administration has been shown to be completely at the influence of the people that got him in the office in the first place.
02:22:08.000I feel like if it was between humans and Anunnaki, it's not a human fucking Anunnaki.
02:22:12.000It would be the Anunnaki fucking the human.
02:22:14.000You say that, but what if it's a really smart, clever, crafty person and an Anunnaki that's been getting $30,000 a year and really doesn't have any motivation and they're weak.
02:22:25.000I think even the shittiest Anunnaki is going to fuck a human through a wall.
02:22:31.000You say that, but take one of the dumbest people today and put them in a room with one of the smartest people from ancient Rome and who would be running shit.