The Joe Rogan Experience - May 06, 2016


Joe Rogan Experience #795 - Ian Edwards


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 23 minutes

Words per Minute

189.34367

Word Count

27,215

Sentence Count

2,875

Misogynist Sentences

88

Hate Speech Sentences

82


Summary

In this episode, we talk about the importance of carrying a case on your phone and why it's a good idea to have one. We also talk about what to wear with it and how to look like a man with a case. We hope you enjoy, sit down, and have a nice drink! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. All rights reserved. Used by permission. This episode was produced and edited by Riley Bray. The opinions and thoughts expressed here are our own, not those of our companies, unless otherwise specified. We do not own the rights to any music used in this episode. If you or someone you know is enjoying it, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever else you get your music. It helps us to keep bringing you quality, diverse and authentic content. Thank you for listening and supporting the podcast. Your continued support is so appreciated and helps keep us on our journey to becoming the best podcast in the industry we can be. Thank you, thank you, and God bless you. -Jon Sorrentino Jon and Ian. Jon is a comedian, writer, podcaster, and podcaster. Ian is a good friend of the pod, and a great human being. . Jon talks about his love of all things hipster and hipster. and everything in between. In this episode he does not only has a case, but he also talks about how to carry a case for his phone. And he wears a case to keep it safe. He also does a little bit more than that. Also, he talks about why he likes to wear a case and he does a lot of stuff that makes him feel like a good time. so much so that you should have one too. he also does it all the time and he also wears it well. Can you do it all, so you can be the best of it all in a way that he does it in a good way. Thanks Jon does it well, and he s a good one, so he s the best, he s so good at it. I hope you can do it, you ll do it. He s a job well enough, so thank you so much, he really does it so much more than he s good enough, and it s not just good enough.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Man has to be careful about what size accoutrement he carries around with him, right?
00:00:03.000 I know.
00:00:04.000 When you get into like the man bag category, it's like...
00:00:06.000 I don't know if you can pull that off.
00:00:09.000 That is a note too, so it's big.
00:00:11.000 So what we're talking about is Ian's phone cover here.
00:00:15.000 It's very purse-like.
00:00:17.000 It's like a change purse.
00:00:19.000 Nah, you can put your cards and shit in there.
00:00:21.000 So it is a purse.
00:00:22.000 Well, you know, nah.
00:00:24.000 In a way.
00:00:25.000 It's like a wallet, like a wallet phone.
00:00:26.000 Yeah, wallet's a good word.
00:00:28.000 Isn't that funny?
00:00:29.000 Like, there's words you're allowed to use.
00:00:30.000 Like, you can walk around all day with a backpack and no one says anything.
00:00:34.000 Like, well, Ian, let's just keep a shit in the backpack.
00:00:36.000 Yeah, no problem with that.
00:00:38.000 But if you have some sort of a satchel.
00:00:40.000 Yeah.
00:00:41.000 It's very suspect.
00:00:43.000 Very suspect.
00:00:44.000 You open yourself up for a lot of verbal attacks, you know what I'm saying?
00:00:49.000 And the style of satchel is important too, because if you've got a satchel that's in any way stylish, then you can't just be wearing Converse All-Stars and a t-shirt.
00:01:01.000 You have to wear hipster clothes.
00:01:02.000 You have to have rolled up cuffs, and you have to have a nice tie-up leather shoe.
00:01:08.000 You know, like you have to go Gavin McGinnis.
00:01:10.000 Gavin McGinnis.
00:01:12.000 You know, you gotta figure out what you're gonna wear with it.
00:01:15.000 Yeah.
00:01:16.000 You gotta look the part.
00:01:18.000 Yeah.
00:01:19.000 So that's why I still take a lot of heat for the fanny pack, and I think it's funny, because I wear that thing all the time.
00:01:25.000 But yeah, I feel uncomfortable when I wear it sometimes.
00:01:27.000 Like, quite honestly.
00:01:29.000 Yeah, I wear it, and I realize people are looking at it, and they notice it, and they're mocking me.
00:01:35.000 Hey, I don't have the balls to wear a panty pack.
00:01:37.000 I gotta tell you that right now.
00:01:38.000 I wear it on stage.
00:01:39.000 You wear it on stage?
00:01:39.000 I wore it on stage a bunch of times.
00:01:41.000 Why?
00:01:41.000 You're not gonna pull anything out of there?
00:01:43.000 Because I don't want to leave my wallet in the green room.
00:01:45.000 Shady people working on the comedy club.
00:01:48.000 It's hilarious.
00:01:49.000 I'd rather them steal my wallet than wear it on stage.
00:01:54.000 That's how much I'm into looking like a man.
00:01:58.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:01:59.000 I'm like, I can't do it.
00:02:01.000 You just call this a purse?
00:02:02.000 You may never see this again.
00:02:04.000 Because I called it a purse.
00:02:05.000 I might throw the phone away with it and just get a new phone.
00:02:09.000 You have to have a cover though.
00:02:10.000 I found that out, man.
00:02:11.000 I tried to go natural with my last phone.
00:02:14.000 And man, I dropped it a few times and it was toast.
00:02:17.000 It shattered.
00:02:19.000 Jamie's going natural?
00:02:20.000 You don't drop it?
00:02:21.000 Nah.
00:02:21.000 Pretty careful with it.
00:02:22.000 Oh, I'm going to drop it here and there, but it's still good to go.
00:02:25.000 You know what?
00:02:25.000 I don't think I dropped this one now that I have a case.
00:02:28.000 That's what's fucked up.
00:02:28.000 That's the funny thing.
00:02:29.000 Yeah, that happens.
00:02:30.000 Yeah, like you don't have a case, you're like, better not drop it!
00:02:32.000 Yeah.
00:02:34.000 Yeah, when you go, I've been raw.
00:02:37.000 Yeah.
00:02:37.000 Like no case, just raw, no condom on the phone.
00:02:40.000 Yeah, I like it.
00:02:42.000 You got to be careful with that shit.
00:02:43.000 Feels good that way, though, doesn't it?
00:02:44.000 Yeah, it feels good that way.
00:02:45.000 I have the natural phone in your hand.
00:02:47.000 Yeah.
00:02:47.000 Nothing on it, yeah.
00:02:48.000 It also feels like you're a risk taker.
00:02:51.000 Yeah.
00:02:55.000 I'm a wild motherfucker.
00:02:57.000 I don't even have a case on my phone, bitch.
00:02:59.000 That's hilarious.
00:03:00.000 Right?
00:03:00.000 Doesn't it feel kind of like that?
00:03:02.000 In modern times, that is a risk.
00:03:04.000 That's 2016. It is a risk to not have a case on your fucking phone.
00:03:09.000 That's crazy.
00:03:09.000 You're a rebel.
00:03:11.000 This is how we're rebelling.
00:03:13.000 This is the softest time to be alive ever.
00:03:16.000 It's so easy to be alive.
00:03:19.000 We're trying to eradicate all the dangerous parts that are left.
00:03:23.000 The dangerous parts that are left, particularly in America, they're so highlighted now.
00:03:28.000 It's one of the reasons why I think Chicago and Baltimore and Detroit, and when we find out the murder statistics for all these cities, one of the things that freaks us out is that for the most part, most of this country is as easy going and soft as it's ever been,
00:03:44.000 ever.
00:03:45.000 So when you see some crazy violence, like in a YouTube video or WorldStarHipHop or something like that, LiveLeak.
00:03:50.000 I watched some LiveLeak shit the other day.
00:03:53.000 I gotta stop doing that, man.
00:03:55.000 It's traumatizing.
00:03:57.000 Yeah, man.
00:03:57.000 They'll get you.
00:03:58.000 But you realize, like...
00:04:00.000 There are still spots where it's dangerous as fuck, but for the most part, it's so soft right now.
00:04:06.000 It's so soft right now.
00:04:07.000 We're risk takers if we have no phone cover.
00:04:10.000 That's us.
00:04:11.000 Yeah, that's the new tattoo.
00:04:13.000 Yeah.
00:04:13.000 Like, having no phone cover.
00:04:15.000 Everybody's tattooed now, too.
00:04:16.000 That's weird.
00:04:17.000 I mean, obviously I have them, but it's odd for me to see how many more people have tattoos today.
00:04:22.000 How long you had your tattoos?
00:04:23.000 A while?
00:04:24.000 Well, I had one on my shoulder forever.
00:04:26.000 I got one when I think I was like 23 or 4 or something like that.
00:04:31.000 That was rebellious back then.
00:04:33.000 Yeah.
00:04:33.000 I was like, ooh, I'm going crazy.
00:04:35.000 It was something I drew too.
00:04:37.000 And my friend Tommy, my friend Tommy Jr. had gone to this guy already.
00:04:42.000 Danny Williams in Connecticut.
00:04:44.000 He was a really good artist, man.
00:04:46.000 This guy was a really good artist.
00:04:47.000 Big biker looking dude.
00:04:50.000 That's who you trusted with your tattoos back then.
00:04:52.000 He was a wicked artist.
00:04:55.000 It's like back then, tattoos as an art form was way more obscure.
00:05:01.000 Now I think people know Kat Von D. They recognize these celebrity tattoo artists like Ed Hardy.
00:05:08.000 He came out with the line of clothing.
00:05:10.000 Like, Ed Hardy was like a world-famous tattoo guy, like, way, way back in the day.
00:05:14.000 Like, his, like, his whole style of tattoos that people associate with Ed Hardy.
00:05:18.000 But there was only a few other ones.
00:05:21.000 And now it's like they have all these magazines and TV shows.
00:05:25.000 The guy that did me, Aaron Della Vadova, is fucking awesome.
00:05:29.000 He's down in San Diego at Guru Tattoo.
00:05:33.000 He's a good friend.
00:05:35.000 I really love that guy.
00:05:37.000 He's a cool guy to talk to, which is, I think, important if you want to have someone draw on you for the rest of your life.
00:05:43.000 That's funny.
00:05:44.000 They have the hairdresser, barber shop style conversations when you go in there to get the tats.
00:05:52.000 Yeah.
00:05:52.000 Well, you do.
00:05:53.000 You get to learn about a guy.
00:05:55.000 You'll get to have, like, these deep conversations.
00:05:58.000 Like, Aaron and I, we talk for, like, 45 hours on my right arm and, like, probably, like, 60 hours on my left arm.
00:06:07.000 It's a lot of just talking.
00:06:08.000 That's a lot of talking, yeah.
00:06:09.000 Sometimes you don't really talk, though, because sometimes he's just deep into it, and I'll just, like, watch a...
00:06:14.000 I was watching...
00:06:17.000 That's where I watched, like, most of Breaking Bad.
00:06:19.000 Oh, for real?
00:06:20.000 Season 1 and Season 2, I was watching.
00:06:21.000 Oh, shit, that's funny.
00:06:22.000 Getting tattooed.
00:06:23.000 That's like the perfect show to watch if you're getting a tattoo.
00:06:26.000 That's good mood music.
00:06:28.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:06:30.000 Watching Breaking Bad and getting a tattoo.
00:06:32.000 It's almost like the pain of the tattoo accentuates the show.
00:06:35.000 Because the show is so chaotic and fucked up.
00:06:38.000 It's almost like better while someone's drilling on your elbow with the tattoo needle.
00:06:43.000 Damn, you said elbow and needle.
00:06:45.000 Damn, I felt that.
00:06:46.000 You feel it.
00:06:47.000 That's a rough spot.
00:06:49.000 The inside of the elbow, like right here, that's a really rough spot.
00:06:52.000 What's interesting is that the closer it gets to your chest, it's a really rough spot.
00:06:57.000 You're like, woo!
00:06:58.000 Different spots have different levels of pain that you experience from.
00:07:02.000 It's very strange.
00:07:03.000 Like, your shoulder?
00:07:04.000 Nothing.
00:07:05.000 You could draw on me all day on my shoulder.
00:07:07.000 I'd fall asleep.
00:07:08.000 Like, I'm not kidding.
00:07:09.000 It's weird.
00:07:10.000 Like, the shoulder just doesn't seem to hurt.
00:07:12.000 But you get down to, like, some area of the inside of the arm.
00:07:16.000 Yeah!
00:07:17.000 Ha ha!
00:07:18.000 It's like a different feeling.
00:07:20.000 I guess the nerves are closer.
00:07:22.000 Like, anywhere that's got more meat on it.
00:07:24.000 Is like protected more from the...
00:07:27.000 I don't know.
00:07:27.000 It doesn't make sense.
00:07:28.000 It's funny though.
00:07:28.000 No, it's like you're finding out shit about your body while you're getting tattooed.
00:07:36.000 It's kind of like sometimes you're having sex with a girl and you...
00:07:39.000 And I always like when she's, oh, I never felt that before.
00:07:42.000 Like, that nobody's ever touched that part or explored that part.
00:07:46.000 And it's like, you find it shit out.
00:07:48.000 Where are you digging, Ian Edwards?
00:07:51.000 Everywhere.
00:07:52.000 Everywhere.
00:07:53.000 Where am I not digging?
00:07:56.000 Especially if you love a chick, you just, you'll try to find some shit.
00:07:59.000 Oh, of course.
00:08:00.000 When a girl says like that, a good percentage of me always goes, yeah, right.
00:08:05.000 Yeah.
00:08:08.000 Ah, shit.
00:08:10.000 Fuck Joe.
00:08:12.000 Every time in my life a girl said something like that, I've always been like, okay.
00:08:18.000 Because it seems like something that girls think that guys want to hear, don't you think?
00:08:21.000 Yeah, it's a part of faking it.
00:08:23.000 Yeah.
00:08:23.000 Well, it's a part of getting the guy to like you.
00:08:26.000 Like, getting a girl to like you, guys will do all kinds of ridiculous, artificial shit, pretend to be a certain way, pretend to behave a certain way, but when it gets down to it, You know, you get to know them.
00:08:40.000 It takes a long time to chip away from that stuff.
00:08:44.000 So when someone says something that's like, cliche, ridiculous, or along those lines, you gotta think like, oh, this person just running their game.
00:08:52.000 Running their game, yeah.
00:08:53.000 They're running their fall in love with me game.
00:08:55.000 They're falling in love with me.
00:08:56.000 You gotta challenge those women just so that they respect you and you keep it on that level, you know?
00:09:02.000 Or don't date fakers.
00:09:04.000 That's hard though.
00:09:05.000 That's hard though.
00:09:06.000 Some of them are hot.
00:09:10.000 What are you doing?
00:09:11.000 Checking tweets while the show's going on?
00:09:12.000 No, I was trying to retweet the thing, but I'm not getting any reception.
00:09:17.000 That's the only thing I want to do is retweet it.
00:09:19.000 But my purse ain't allowing me to do that shit.
00:09:23.000 Yeah, you're a rebel because you have an Android phone too.
00:09:26.000 You're a rebel in both ways.
00:09:27.000 You don't give a fuck.
00:09:30.000 Is that the note where you can draw on the screen?
00:09:32.000 Yeah.
00:09:32.000 Those are the shit.
00:09:33.000 Yeah, I love that shit.
00:09:34.000 I love it.
00:09:35.000 Do you have that?
00:09:36.000 No.
00:09:37.000 You had one though, right?
00:09:38.000 I had one of those.
00:09:38.000 And then you switched it back out?
00:09:39.000 Yeah, now I have a Galaxy.
00:09:41.000 Okay.
00:09:41.000 And I have an iPhone.
00:09:43.000 I have two different phones.
00:09:44.000 Oh, that's good.
00:09:44.000 So you got both.
00:09:45.000 Yeah.
00:09:46.000 But to miss that note, I just think that...
00:09:49.000 Ability to draw on the show.
00:09:51.000 I was like, God, it's going to come into play someday.
00:09:53.000 I'm going to make some funny shit with this.
00:09:55.000 You know, like, have your friends.
00:09:56.000 But it seems like those meme generators, we just go and get, like, a little thing and put the text into it.
00:10:02.000 It seems like that's easier.
00:10:04.000 It's easy, but it's a pain in the ass sometimes to move it to where you want to move it to and all that shit.
00:10:09.000 One of the reasons I like having this is like last year, I was living in a friend's.
00:10:16.000 I sold that place.
00:10:18.000 Remember one last time?
00:10:19.000 I was living at a friend's house.
00:10:20.000 I didn't have no printer, no setup where you could like, if you get a contract for a show or just anything, so you could print it up yourself.
00:10:30.000 With this, you just...
00:10:31.000 Look at the thing on your phone.
00:10:32.000 You could sign it.
00:10:33.000 You could read the contract and then sign it and just send it via email back without printing anything out or anything.
00:10:41.000 That's incredible.
00:10:42.000 That's a big thing to have in that case.
00:10:44.000 But how weird is it that we're still signing things?
00:10:47.000 Like, how much longer is that going to go on?
00:10:49.000 I mean, think about it.
00:10:50.000 A unique movement with your hand, really?
00:10:53.000 Like, we all know that I used to replicate all the KISS signatures.
00:10:59.000 Every kid knows how to do that, right?
00:11:01.000 Yeah, sure.
00:11:02.000 Michael Jordan's autograph, for sure.
00:11:03.000 Oh, for sure.
00:11:04.000 Well, probably a bunch of people who have fake memorabilia, right?
00:11:07.000 Oh, yeah.
00:11:08.000 Like, with a guy like Michael Jordan, like, a basketball signed by Michael Jordan is worth...
00:11:12.000 How much more than a regular basketball?
00:11:14.000 And a fake basketball, not signed by Michael Jordan, is worth, still, not a lot of money.
00:11:20.000 Yeah, well, how about, yeah.
00:11:22.000 It doesn't even have to be a real basketball.
00:11:23.000 It could be a child's toy.
00:11:25.000 If Michael Jordan signs it, it's worth a lot of money.
00:11:27.000 So it only makes sense that a unique hand movement, it could be easily replicated.
00:11:32.000 It's not like what he could do on the basketball court, he could do with his handwriting.
00:11:36.000 Yeah, it's hilarious.
00:11:37.000 Nobody could fuck with his handwriting.
00:11:38.000 You can't do it, dude!
00:11:39.000 Nobody could...
00:11:40.000 That's hilarious.
00:11:41.000 Who the fuck slams Gunk from center court like he did?
00:11:44.000 You know, nobody.
00:11:45.000 You can't do it.
00:11:45.000 I can't do it.
00:11:46.000 But the motherfucker writes just like us.
00:11:49.000 Exactly, right?
00:11:51.000 He doesn't have some crazy writing move that nobody can replicate.
00:11:54.000 That's hilarious.
00:11:56.000 He just writes his name.
00:11:58.000 So all you have to do is look at that thing and then recreate it.
00:12:02.000 Like, I was watching this...
00:12:05.000 Documentary on art forgery.
00:12:07.000 Fascinating shit.
00:12:08.000 Oh shit.
00:12:09.000 Fascinating shit.
00:12:10.000 Which one?
00:12:10.000 I wish I could remember because I caught it on television and I caught it when it was already started, you know, just flipping through the channels like, what is this?
00:12:19.000 And I don't remember.
00:12:20.000 But what I do remember was that there was an article that I had read as well about this one guy who was a forgery guy, but in a weird way.
00:12:30.000 What he would do is he would make a fake version, a new piece of art, but from that artist's style.
00:12:37.000 And this guy apparently was making fucking millions of dollars in Europe with this.
00:12:43.000 People would go crazy.
00:12:44.000 Was it like after the war or during the war or something like that?
00:12:46.000 I wish I remembered that.
00:12:48.000 Do you know what it is?
00:12:49.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:12:49.000 I'm pretty sure this is it.
00:12:50.000 I'm pretty sure it's on Netflix or it was.
00:12:52.000 Yes, that's the guy.
00:12:53.000 Bill Trachy, The Art of Forgery is what it is.
00:12:55.000 Yes.
00:12:56.000 Okay, there we go.
00:12:56.000 His story is really cool how he does it.
00:12:58.000 You can probably explain it.
00:12:59.000 Yeah.
00:13:00.000 No, it's incredible.
00:13:01.000 He would study the art of each guy or woman or whoever he was trying to replicate.
00:13:08.000 And then he would create a new fake piece that they did that was so good that experts couldn't understand it.
00:13:18.000 Experts were, they were like, this is a Picasso.
00:13:22.000 Like, I know Picasso, I've seen Picasso, I've studied Picasso, this is a Picasso.
00:13:25.000 That's how good he was.
00:13:26.000 And I think what fucked him up was he got cocky, and he used a color of paint that wasn't available back then.
00:13:35.000 And it was almost like some had speculated that he did it, like he wanted to see if he could get caught.
00:13:40.000 Like, it's almost like he wanted to take credit for his work.
00:13:44.000 Yeah, like a serial killer or some shit.
00:13:46.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:13:47.000 You know, that was how it happened, right?
00:13:51.000 I'm pretty sure, because I was really confused as I was watching it, because he and his wife both got, they were both arrested, and both were serving prison sentences, but they were allowed out during the day to go work.
00:14:01.000 To draw.
00:14:02.000 And they had to be separated in some part.
00:14:04.000 But yeah, I think he was working...
00:14:06.000 Now selling art of his own because he was so good and people knew how good his forgeries were.
00:14:10.000 Some people actually wanted those forgeries because they were so good.
00:14:13.000 So now he made a name of his own.
00:14:14.000 I can't wait till somebody forges his shit.
00:14:16.000 Well, he doesn't have a style.
00:14:18.000 He's like a hack comedian.
00:14:19.000 He's a hack comedian.
00:14:21.000 You know what I mean?
00:14:21.000 But obviously, super talented.
00:14:24.000 What a bittersweet thing, though, because you got to think that a guy that can be that talented, that can replicate that, that is art, right?
00:14:31.000 Right.
00:14:32.000 That is art.
00:14:33.000 Yeah.
00:14:33.000 He's doing new pieces.
00:14:35.000 New pieces in their style.
00:14:37.000 Which, in a way, is kind of more honorable a form of forgery.
00:14:41.000 I mean, if you're gonna go down the fucker food chain to recreate...
00:14:48.000 A piece of art is probably more honorable or to create your own version of this person's art is probably more honorable than like if you had a painting and I'd made an exact duplicate of it.
00:14:58.000 When you first started the story, I was like, fuck rich people for being so much into art.
00:15:04.000 They deserve to get screwed by this dude.
00:15:06.000 Then when you said he's a hack, then I related to it on a comedy level and I was like, fuck this guy.
00:15:14.000 Because I feel the pain of following hacks who are ripping.
00:15:18.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:15:19.000 Or getting accolades and audiences don't know that they're a hack.
00:15:25.000 Oh, that's the worst.
00:15:26.000 So the story, I can relate to it on different levels.
00:15:29.000 Isn't that a terrible feeling when you walk in a room and someone's Killing with some really bullshit material.
00:15:35.000 You know for sure this is just chop-chop material.
00:15:38.000 Yeah, it makes me more angry at the audience than the person.
00:15:41.000 Because I've already been angry at this person.
00:15:43.000 I've already seen him before, known him before, most likely.
00:15:46.000 I have to try to do my shit in front of this audience that doesn't know that this is fake.
00:15:51.000 This is a fake, y'all.
00:15:52.000 Yeah, I watched somebody steal one of Freddie Soto's bits the other day.
00:15:56.000 Oh, shit.
00:15:56.000 I had to leave the room.
00:15:58.000 The audience was laughing.
00:15:59.000 I had to leave the room.
00:16:00.000 I was like, oh, God.
00:16:02.000 I can't even see this.
00:16:05.000 Especially a guy like Freddie, who's dead, who was awesome.
00:16:09.000 One of the best guys ever.
00:16:10.000 Just such a sweetie.
00:16:13.000 I'm trying to get over stuff like that, though, and not let it affect me.
00:16:16.000 Yeah, you gotta just get away from it.
00:16:18.000 We were talking about that last night, Tony Hinchcliffe and I, because he was talking about people that Get to a certain point in their career and then they wind up fucking things up.
00:16:29.000 Right, right.
00:16:29.000 And Tony's, like, super ambitious.
00:16:31.000 Mm-hmm.
00:16:32.000 So Tony's, um...
00:16:33.000 He's essentially making sure that none of this stuff ever happens to him.
00:16:37.000 Right.
00:16:37.000 So he's, like, seeing things that people have fucked up.
00:16:40.000 Mm-hmm.
00:16:40.000 And then dealing with people that hate on him because he's ambitious, because he's always getting after it.
00:16:46.000 That kid's always writing, always doing new stuff.
00:16:49.000 And some people, they just get upset with him.
00:16:52.000 They think they feel that his ambition is threatening to their examination of themselves.
00:17:00.000 We were having a conversation about it last night, and I was like, don't dwell on it.
00:17:06.000 It's easier said than done, but you see all these people out there that are fucking up.
00:17:10.000 Don't pay attention to them.
00:17:11.000 There's plenty of people around like Burr, like you, like Joey, like Ari.
00:17:16.000 There's plenty of people that are out there that are just killing it.
00:17:19.000 Pay attention to them.
00:17:21.000 This is the best time ever for this shit.
00:17:25.000 My new thing is, and I've done it in spurts, Just focus on the shit that I want.
00:17:32.000 Not the stuff that can stop me from getting what I want.
00:17:34.000 Yeah.
00:17:35.000 But I find like if you focus on the stuff that you want or where you want to get to and you have tunnel vision, then you'll be fine and you'll get there.
00:17:44.000 Like instead of creating all this wasting time, taking the time away from your creativity, thinking about what people are thinking about you and all that stuff and just focus on like, I need to make this joke work, this joke work.
00:17:57.000 I need to do this.
00:17:58.000 I need to do that.
00:17:58.000 Everything that gets you that step further, you know?
00:18:01.000 Well, I think there's patterns of thought that are really easy to fall into.
00:18:05.000 They just seem natural.
00:18:06.000 And one of them is when there is something that's in your way, and you're trying to figure out why it's in your way, you start concentrating on some of the aspects of it that are out of your control.
00:18:15.000 Like, you know, how come they don't like what I do, but they like what she does?
00:18:19.000 Or how come, you know, this is happening?
00:18:20.000 How the fuck did this guy get this?
00:18:22.000 Instead of...
00:18:24.000 Try to figure out how to get so tuned into what you're doing that you don't concentrate on what they don't want.
00:18:32.000 You just concentrate.
00:18:33.000 How many times did I clear my fucking throat?
00:18:36.000 I gotta stop drinking this butter coffee.
00:18:38.000 It fucks up podcasts.
00:18:39.000 It does, right?
00:18:41.000 I'm a little too...
00:18:43.000 A little too much, but it's hard to say.
00:18:46.000 I mean, it's easy to say it's hard to do.
00:18:48.000 It's hard to actually get your mind into a place where you're concentrating on only what you're trying to do, especially in the beginning of your career where you're trying to get out there and get booked and nobody wants to book you.
00:19:01.000 Some dude was bitching about that at the Comedy Store the other night.
00:19:04.000 He was talking about How nobody's helping him out and all these other people are doing well, but it seems like it's bullshit and the system is stacked against him.
00:19:15.000 It's like, Jesus Christ.
00:19:17.000 You're dead.
00:19:19.000 Well, it's so foolish because nobody knows who you are, first of all.
00:19:22.000 If nobody knows who you are, there's no plotting against you.
00:19:25.000 They don't know yet.
00:19:26.000 And this idea that it's some big grand conspiracy just because- That's fear and ego.
00:19:33.000 Both of those together.
00:19:34.000 But these patterns, and these patterns that people go down to, down through, they seem real normal.
00:19:41.000 It seems normal to concentrate on stupid shit.
00:19:44.000 It's almost like it's a distraction from concentrating on the really important shit.
00:19:49.000 It's so comforting.
00:19:52.000 I'm trying not to clear my throat.
00:19:54.000 Fuck it.
00:19:54.000 Just do it, man.
00:19:56.000 But it's so comforting to go down those stupid patterns.
00:19:59.000 Right.
00:20:00.000 That's what happens with people.
00:20:01.000 That's how people get obsessed about things.
00:20:02.000 They get obsessive.
00:20:03.000 They start freaking out.
00:20:05.000 It's like they're patterns.
00:20:06.000 You're creating your own distractions.
00:20:08.000 Listen, man.
00:20:08.000 Nobody can work harder to stop you than you want to work hard enough to make it.
00:20:15.000 So just work hard and you're good.
00:20:17.000 Nobody's taking that much time out of their life to stop you like that.
00:20:21.000 Yeah.
00:20:22.000 Well, most of it is in your head.
00:20:24.000 Yeah, most of it's in our head.
00:20:25.000 Most of it.
00:20:25.000 Yeah, especially comics.
00:20:26.000 Well, I guess everybody, but I have had a good...
00:20:30.000 As a comic, I've been in my head.
00:20:33.000 We all have.
00:20:34.000 Yeah.
00:20:34.000 Everybody has.
00:20:35.000 You know, Frank Castillo and I were talking about this last night, the Comedy Store Bar.
00:20:39.000 We were talking about...
00:20:41.000 The difference between when you're learning how to do stand-up, you kind of wonder if this is going to work.
00:20:48.000 You have this idea.
00:20:49.000 Like, oh God, is this going to work?
00:20:51.000 Can I get this to work?
00:20:52.000 How do I get this to work?
00:20:54.000 Which you still kind of do as you get better at it or more experienced, but as you get older, it's how do I convey why I think this is funny?
00:21:03.000 Right.
00:21:07.000 Yeah, before I had, like, jokes.
00:21:10.000 Yeah.
00:21:10.000 But now I have, like, concepts or premises that aren't funny.
00:21:14.000 It's like, how do I make this funny?
00:21:16.000 Yeah.
00:21:17.000 What do I think is funny about this?
00:21:19.000 Yeah.
00:21:20.000 Yeah.
00:21:20.000 How do we get started on this?
00:21:21.000 We're talking about something...
00:21:23.000 I was gonna diverge.
00:21:25.000 But I forgot.
00:21:26.000 What did we go from?
00:21:28.000 We went from...
00:21:29.000 We're gonna show the Tom Segura thing.
00:21:30.000 We should probably just show that.
00:21:31.000 That's why I'm so distracted.
00:21:34.000 This...
00:21:34.000 Tom...
00:21:35.000 Let me just explain this.
00:21:36.000 Let me give you...
00:21:38.000 Let me get a little in-depth.
00:21:40.000 Tom Segura, our pal, is killing it.
00:21:44.000 He's been on the road.
00:21:45.000 He's selling out theaters.
00:21:45.000 He's killing it all over the place.
00:21:47.000 And one of the things that he has to do, unfortunately, is sometimes he has to do these morning shows.
00:21:54.000 So if he's trying to sell tickets and let everybody know that he's in town, he does morning radio, and he'll do these morning TV shows.
00:22:02.000 And when you talk about levels of lameness for entertainment, morning shows are the most...
00:22:10.000 It's like people who think milk is spicy.
00:22:14.000 They're just like, how can you drink a whole milk?
00:22:16.000 I have to water my milk down and put sugar in it.
00:22:19.000 It's like the last remnants of Grandma TV. They're the weirdest shows.
00:22:24.000 Yeah.
00:22:25.000 They don't bear any resemblance to anybody that I know that's that age.
00:22:29.000 When I see them talking, these young people, young, handsome, good-looking people, and you go, who the fuck are they?
00:22:36.000 Who talks like this?
00:22:37.000 What planet are they from?
00:22:38.000 Where is this taking place?
00:22:39.000 You guys are a time capsule to a 1950s that never really existed.
00:22:44.000 It's a media depiction of the Norman Rockwell days.
00:22:48.000 It's like they colorized some old black and white news footage.
00:22:52.000 Yeah.
00:22:53.000 They're brutal.
00:22:54.000 They're brutal to do, point being.
00:22:56.000 Morning radio shows are usually pretty fun.
00:22:59.000 You know, most of those guys are just trying to have a good time.
00:23:01.000 But...
00:23:02.000 So Tom goes on these morning TV shows, and now he has a character, and his character is a rapper, and he's got a chinchilla scarf on and a giant fat gold rope, and he's wearing his sunglasses.
00:23:17.000 With his Cincinnati hat on.
00:23:19.000 And he plays this character now.
00:23:22.000 And he just says a bunch of crazy shit.
00:23:24.000 And to him, so much more fun than actually trying to have a...
00:23:30.000 So, Tom, where'd you start comedy and when did you know that you were gonna be a funny man?
00:23:37.000 Instead of that, he, you know, he does this.
00:23:42.000 So the announcement.
00:23:44.000 The big announcement, the big announcement I wanted to make is that last year, you know, I came out as poly and bi, and now I'm proud to say that I'm non-binary.
00:23:55.000 What is that?
00:23:57.000 Is there more to this?
00:24:00.000 Because I'm confused.
00:24:02.000 Oh yeah, so most people fall within the male and female binary, and then I'm non-binary, so I don't fall into either one.
00:24:12.000 I'm actually fluid binary, meaning that depending on the moment, I kind of go between different genders.
00:24:22.000 So like today, I'm astral gender right now.
00:24:25.000 I'm a gender from outer space.
00:24:28.000 As two hosts who couldn't find a door yesterday to get into a place, we are totally lost.
00:24:36.000 It's a pretty big thing to come out as non-binary.
00:24:40.000 You're the first we've encountered.
00:24:41.000 Really?
00:24:42.000 So that is a big announcement.
00:24:43.000 It's a big announcement, yeah.
00:24:44.000 And thanks for announcing that on our show.
00:24:45.000 Yeah, I'm happy to share with everybody.
00:24:47.000 She actually...
00:24:48.000 Listen to the way he talks.
00:24:49.000 If you don't mind referring to me as they...
00:24:51.000 Like being phony all the way.
00:24:53.000 But the chick is at least trying to be real.
00:24:56.000 It's done.
00:24:56.000 They are going to be at the Comedy Zone tonight, so what can people expect from you all?
00:25:01.000 Oh, God.
00:25:02.000 Well, you know, we're going to do our thing.
00:25:04.000 It's a whole new hour.
00:25:06.000 It's different than mostly stories or completely normal with the last two Netflix specials.
00:25:12.000 So it's a whole new hour.
00:25:13.000 And then, you know, I'll be going from the stage, like I said, to spinning records at a local place for an after show.
00:25:22.000 Maybe doing some recruiting here in the area too, right?
00:25:25.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, I might have time to swing by Tallahassee maybe on Friday, meet some players and try to sign somebody else.
00:25:33.000 But I'm excited.
00:25:35.000 You are a busy guy.
00:25:36.000 A triple threat, but in different careers.
00:25:39.000 I like that.
00:25:40.000 Absolutely.
00:25:42.000 Come on.
00:25:43.000 Well, you can catch Tom on stage all weekend at the Comedy Zone.
00:25:46.000 Shout out to Throatzilla.
00:25:48.000 And we're going to give away this right now.
00:25:53.000 Shout out to Throatzilla!
00:25:56.000 Oh shit!
00:25:57.000 He said Throatzilla?
00:25:57.000 Do you know who Throatzilla is?
00:25:58.000 Nah, nah.
00:25:59.000 Tom Segura is obsessed with black Twitter.
00:26:02.000 And so is Jamie.
00:26:05.000 So Jamie can clue you in on it better than anybody.
00:26:07.000 But Throatzilla is apparently a prostitute who's famous for her oral skills.
00:26:13.000 And she was involved...
00:26:15.000 And some sort of a paid sexual experience with a football player who turned out to be a cheapskate.
00:26:22.000 Didn't want to pay up.
00:26:23.000 So she blew him up.
00:26:25.000 And then everybody got to know who Throatzilla is.
00:26:29.000 Throatzilla has a fucking hilarious Instagram page.
00:26:35.000 Well, we don't need to see what football player it is.
00:26:37.000 Like, let people do some Googling.
00:26:39.000 Leave the man alone.
00:26:41.000 He liked getting his ass eaten.
00:26:43.000 Nothing wrong with that.
00:26:44.000 She's got a popular Snapchat, too, apparently.
00:26:47.000 But she's hilarious.
00:26:48.000 She's hilarious.
00:26:49.000 She's actually been a guest on Your Mom's House.
00:26:51.000 You ever listen to Your Mom's House?
00:26:52.000 I've been on it, but I don't know.
00:26:53.000 You haven't listened?
00:26:55.000 I haven't listened, no.
00:26:55.000 Well, you listened to the one that you were on, because you were in it.
00:26:58.000 You were involved.
00:26:59.000 You had to be listening, right?
00:27:00.000 Mm-hmm.
00:27:01.000 So one.
00:27:01.000 Me too.
00:27:02.000 I've listened to a couple of their clips, though, online.
00:27:05.000 Their fucking shit is hilarious.
00:27:06.000 They're so funny together.
00:27:07.000 Yeah, they've been pumping up their YouTube channel, so they got all their new podcasts, just like we've been doing, and some clips up there, too.
00:27:12.000 They're killing it.
00:27:13.000 Tom is killing it on the road, too.
00:27:15.000 He's killing it.
00:27:16.000 It's so nice.
00:27:17.000 It's so nice to see a guy who's that talented just get recognized.
00:27:21.000 Yeah.
00:27:21.000 You know?
00:27:22.000 Yeah, he's doing dope, man.
00:27:23.000 I'm happy for him.
00:27:25.000 Yeah.
00:27:25.000 He's a funny fucking dude, man.
00:27:27.000 Yeah.
00:27:28.000 Like, even just watching that.
00:27:29.000 He's just having fun.
00:27:30.000 Like, you can make anything fun, man.
00:27:32.000 Like, you don't want to get up in the morning and do that shit.
00:27:34.000 That shit is tiring.
00:27:35.000 He's just...
00:27:36.000 I'm going to figure out a way to do this shit.
00:27:39.000 Yeah.
00:27:41.000 They're brutal.
00:27:42.000 Those are the most brutal.
00:27:44.000 But it's also brutal because you know that you're going to have to, like...
00:27:47.000 Figure out a way to be awake at 8 o'clock for the show.
00:27:50.000 Like, you can't be sleepy.
00:27:52.000 You know, so you know you only got like two or three hours sleep before you got up for this thing.
00:27:55.000 Because most of the time, most comics don't go to bed until like 1 or 2. You can get up at 6, do this radio thing, bleary-eyed.
00:28:02.000 And most of the time it sucks.
00:28:04.000 And then you got to kind of be phony too sometimes because you're like with a bunch of phony people.
00:28:08.000 So it's like, this is a great way to not be phony and make fun of this phony situation.
00:28:13.000 Yeah.
00:28:14.000 Yeah, but Tom's, he's figured it out.
00:28:16.000 I never figured it out.
00:28:17.000 I would just go and do them.
00:28:18.000 Yeah, me too.
00:28:19.000 Like that guy in the blue shirt, full of shit.
00:28:21.000 Yeah.
00:28:22.000 At least the girl was like, I don't get it.
00:28:24.000 And she nervously said it, but she said it.
00:28:27.000 Yeah.
00:28:27.000 And then there's another thing she reacted to, like the correct way, but still with a nice morning TV personality person way.
00:28:36.000 But at least she was like more honest.
00:28:38.000 The guy was like...
00:28:39.000 Hey!
00:28:40.000 Well, that's good to know.
00:28:42.000 Rolling with the thing that he doesn't even understand.
00:28:44.000 Well, what he's doing is what they do.
00:28:47.000 It's that way of talking.
00:28:49.000 There's a bunch of different fake ways of talking that people just slide right into.
00:28:54.000 Like, strip club DJ. That's one.
00:28:58.000 Top 40 DJ. That's one.
00:29:01.000 Hey, coming up next.
00:29:02.000 All right.
00:29:03.000 There's a way of talking that is exactly the same.
00:29:06.000 And they all replicate it.
00:29:08.000 Those are two, like, real big ones.
00:29:09.000 Yeah, news people voice.
00:29:11.000 Mm-hmm.
00:29:11.000 News.
00:29:11.000 News man voice.
00:29:12.000 The news.
00:29:13.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:29:14.000 There's a way of talking.
00:29:16.000 What makes people think.
00:29:17.000 And there's, like, subtle variations that even, like, today's pros use.
00:29:21.000 There's a style of communication that lets you know they mean business.
00:29:26.000 Right.
00:29:27.000 This is very serious.
00:29:29.000 Very, very serious.
00:29:31.000 Yeah, and so these morning guys, they have like Ryan Seacrest posters up all over their house.
00:29:36.000 He's the god.
00:29:37.000 He's the god of that style.
00:29:39.000 Ryan Seacrest nailed it.
00:29:41.000 He nailed it at life.
00:29:43.000 All he did was...
00:29:43.000 Name his talent!
00:29:44.000 All he does is talk smooth and look great.
00:29:47.000 Keeps his hair coiffed.
00:29:49.000 Like, literally.
00:29:50.000 Guys made hundreds of millions of dollars by talking smooth and looking great.
00:29:54.000 That's it.
00:29:55.000 Just being that guy.
00:29:56.000 All right.
00:29:57.000 Way to go, Janet.
00:29:58.000 All right.
00:29:59.000 Likes everything.
00:30:00.000 Next two, yeah.
00:30:01.000 Next two colors.
00:30:02.000 That's all you have to do.
00:30:03.000 Just never get negative.
00:30:04.000 Let it all roll off your back.
00:30:06.000 Yeah.
00:30:06.000 When you go home, you scream into a pillowcase.
00:30:09.000 Ah!
00:30:12.000 What is this?
00:30:13.000 Who wants to dress like Ryan Teacrest?
00:30:15.000 A lot of people in New York Magazine.
00:30:16.000 What are you showing me here, buddy?
00:30:17.000 He's got a clothing line.
00:30:18.000 He's got a popular clothing line.
00:30:20.000 No, of course he does.
00:30:22.000 Did you hear about what happened with Arsenio and Sinead O'Connor?
00:30:27.000 No.
00:30:28.000 Somebody told me on the way up.
00:30:29.000 I saw a photo of him on a news feed, but she's accusing him of giving Prince Percocet.
00:30:40.000 What?
00:30:41.000 And Prince dying off her overdose.
00:30:43.000 Sinead O'Connor is accusing Arsenio Hall of doing that?
00:30:47.000 Why would she do that?
00:30:49.000 Is that true?
00:30:50.000 Wait a minute.
00:30:51.000 First of all, just because you gave someone a fucking Percocet, like a lot of people take Percocets and there's nothing wrong with them.
00:30:58.000 They're going to be okay.
00:30:59.000 But she called the feds and said, I called the feds and you better get your house in order because they're coming for you.
00:31:05.000 Like she's basically blaming him for Prince's death.
00:31:08.000 That's so crazy.
00:31:10.000 First of all, he had an addiction to pain pills.
00:31:14.000 Hall has denied the heinous accusations in the lawsuit.
00:31:17.000 Despicable fabricated lies.
00:31:19.000 That's awful.
00:31:21.000 It's awful in a whole bunch of ways.
00:31:22.000 It's awful that Prince was addicted to pills.
00:31:26.000 Right, I didn't expect that.
00:31:27.000 I guess he was addicted to pills because of his hips.
00:31:30.000 Apparently his hips just fucked up from all those years of spinning around and throwing kicks and fucking doing splits.
00:31:36.000 Throwing kicks.
00:31:37.000 You know, when he would do those shows, man, he was super active.
00:31:40.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:31:40.000 And he was always just dropping down and doing the splits.
00:31:43.000 Like, that's probably not the best way to treat your body.
00:31:46.000 Like, a lot of that stuff is super impressive because it was like real explosive.
00:31:49.000 You know, he'd spin around with his guitar and drop down and do the splits.
00:31:53.000 It's like WWE moves.
00:31:56.000 And yeah, those wrestlers and shit, they get hooked too.
00:31:59.000 When Dave Chappelle had that whole bit about Prince being a really good basketball player with Charlie Murphy, it made sense.
00:32:06.000 Like, of course he is.
00:32:07.000 Like, look how fast he is.
00:32:08.000 Look how well he moves when he dances on stage.
00:32:11.000 But I guess that shit just wreaked havoc on his legs.
00:32:15.000 Yeah, that motherfucker was electric, man.
00:32:17.000 Like, I was...
00:32:18.000 After he died, I was watching some concert footage.
00:32:21.000 He makes you feel like you're there.
00:32:23.000 He puts on a show, man.
00:32:25.000 Yeah, he was one of the greats, without a doubt.
00:32:27.000 One of the all-time greats.
00:32:29.000 When it comes to music, we were talking about this on a recent podcast about I Want to Be Your Lover.
00:32:36.000 When that song came out, I was like, who is this guy?
00:32:39.000 It just had this completely new sort of feel to it, where you were hoping...
00:32:46.000 I hope this...
00:32:48.000 I remember there's a bunch of artists that when they came out, like Terrence Trent Darby was one of them.
00:32:53.000 He was one of them where he came out and his songs were so cool and I was like, I hope this guy figures this out.
00:32:59.000 I hope this guy keeps going.
00:33:01.000 Because some of these guys, they'll come out with some really cool songs and a really cool thing and then it goes away.
00:33:09.000 Which is crazy.
00:33:10.000 We were talking about Guns N' Roses last night.
00:33:12.000 Because they were one of the groups that, alright, this is going to be around for a long time for sure.
00:33:17.000 They're the next new Rolling Stones or whatever.
00:33:20.000 And it's just, like, they just...
00:33:22.000 They just...
00:33:24.000 It's more of a shock that they didn't last than if they did.
00:33:29.000 Right.
00:33:29.000 You know?
00:33:30.000 Yeah.
00:33:31.000 And Terrence Tranjabi, like, yeah, he was...
00:33:34.000 He's one of those short things back then.
00:33:36.000 Some people you heard, you're like, they're a one-hit wonder.
00:33:39.000 You're like, no, this person is going to be a man.
00:33:41.000 Talented.
00:33:41.000 Yeah.
00:33:42.000 Sinead O'Connor, too.
00:33:43.000 She's one of them.
00:33:44.000 Yeah.
00:33:45.000 That bitch was so fucking...
00:33:47.000 And is so fucking talented.
00:33:49.000 Mm-hmm.
00:33:49.000 That you go, well, where's her body of work?
00:33:52.000 Yeah.
00:33:52.000 Why doesn't she have a hundred albums out?
00:33:54.000 Why doesn't she have a million hits?
00:33:55.000 Mm-hmm.
00:33:56.000 She's so good when she's on.
00:33:58.000 Mm-hmm.
00:33:59.000 You know, like the early shit when she first came out...
00:34:03.000 You're like, whoa.
00:34:05.000 She's a storm, like an electric storm.
00:34:08.000 Like, Jesus Christ, she was good.
00:34:11.000 She might be like sensitive or something happened to her.
00:34:13.000 Probably.
00:34:14.000 She got turned off from the business or something.
00:34:16.000 Well, do you remember when she tore up that picture of the Pope?
00:34:18.000 Right.
00:34:19.000 That was a big problem.
00:34:21.000 I think she wasn't ready for that negativity that came with that opinion.
00:34:25.000 That was like 20 years ahead of time.
00:34:27.000 Yeah.
00:34:27.000 Yeah.
00:34:27.000 I know, man.
00:34:28.000 She was right.
00:34:29.000 Isn't that crazy?
00:34:30.000 Yeah, she was right.
00:34:30.000 Yeah.
00:34:31.000 If she did that shit today, people would support her and cheer for her.
00:34:34.000 She's a very brave person in that regard.
00:34:36.000 Yeah, if she did it today, they'd be like, she's a hack.
00:34:38.000 Yeah.
00:34:38.000 People have been doing that.
00:34:40.000 Yeah.
00:34:41.000 Then she did it too soon.
00:34:43.000 Too original.
00:34:45.000 Too soon.
00:34:45.000 There was this kid a long time ago that had an MTV music video and people were saying that this kid is the future of rock and roll.
00:34:53.000 He was like 19 years old.
00:34:56.000 He had a song called Beat So Lonely.
00:35:00.000 Who fucking sings that?
00:35:02.000 But this dude was like a badass guitarist and he was like 19 years old.
00:35:06.000 And it was one of those things where they were hyping him up.
00:35:08.000 Yeah, Charlie Sexton.
00:35:10.000 So, if we play this, it'll probably get us kicked off YouTube, right?
00:35:14.000 I can play it for the audio.
00:35:15.000 Play it for the audio.
00:35:16.000 For people who...
00:35:17.000 Anyway, this guy was really young, and he was this good-looking, like a Johnny Depp who does a lot of speed.
00:35:26.000 It was like this good-looking, young, talented guitarist.
00:35:30.000 And what year does it say down there, Jeremy, if you scroll down?
00:35:35.000 Yeah, okay, so this is my senior year in high school.
00:35:39.000 And this guy came out and there was this crazy black and white music video.
00:35:45.000 This is the days of MTV, you know?
00:35:47.000 So he's walking down this black and white stream and in between him walking with his cool looking earrings and his fucking Fonzie leather jacket on.
00:35:55.000 You see the producer sliding up the dials on the mixing board and all these neon signs.
00:36:02.000 And, you know, so stylish and produced and so obviously contrived.
00:36:08.000 But as a 15, what was I, 17, I guess?
00:36:11.000 Yeah, 17-year-old kid watching this, I remember thinking, whoa.
00:36:16.000 Like, this guy is, you know, he's not that much older than me.
00:36:21.000 And he's, like, smoking cigarettes, hanging out with these rockers.
00:36:28.000 But it's not playing any of the song yet.
00:36:32.000 But his singing is kind of interesting too.
00:36:38.000 But they put so much effort into this.
00:36:41.000 It was one of those things that was like, well, they're for sure going to force feed us this guy.
00:36:50.000 Present rock stars make videos like this now.
00:36:53.000 Retro shit.
00:36:54.000 Retro versions of this.
00:36:56.000 That one is good.
00:36:57.000 This is a pretty good song.
00:37:00.000 People are getting mad at me right now.
00:37:01.000 No, it's not, you fuck!
00:37:03.000 I'm telling you, I really like this song, especially when it came out when I was 17. And I thought this fucking guy was going to be giant.
00:37:10.000 He had all the right pieces.
00:37:11.000 He didn't have tattoos back then because dudes didn't have tattoos.
00:37:14.000 But if it was today, he would have tattoos all over his hands and shit.
00:37:17.000 He'd have some shit written on his neck.
00:37:19.000 But he's got all the right bracelets.
00:37:22.000 All the right bracelets.
00:37:24.000 All the right bracelets.
00:37:25.000 His hair looks perfect.
00:37:27.000 That's hilarious.
00:37:27.000 I want him to listen to this show and call in or something.
00:37:31.000 Where is he now?
00:37:32.000 Maybe I'm wrong.
00:37:32.000 Maybe he's like a giant country star.
00:37:34.000 There's country stars that you don't even know about that are like fucking hundreds of millions of sales.
00:37:39.000 Boy, I just saw the...
00:37:40.000 When you showed the image of me, I realized how high I am.
00:37:43.000 Slow down, bitch.
00:37:46.000 Shit, I'm getting high.
00:37:47.000 I'm not even bullshitting.
00:37:48.000 You got high in this room.
00:37:50.000 We hotboxed, Ian.
00:37:52.000 Ian's got an adversity to the weed.
00:37:54.000 Anybody who tells you you can't get hotboxed is a fucking liar, too, by the way.
00:37:57.000 I can tell you that right now.
00:38:00.000 Somebody tried to tell me the other day that hotboxing isn't real.
00:38:03.000 I was like, what are you talking about?
00:38:05.000 It's 100% real.
00:38:06.000 You're breathing in weed in a room where there's weed.
00:38:10.000 It's like smoking weed.
00:38:11.000 Yeah.
00:38:11.000 I mean, it's not as effective as taking a hit, but it's pretty close.
00:38:16.000 If you're staying there long enough and the room is like...
00:38:19.000 Like, if there's a lot of weed going around and the room is small and it's intense and it's in the air, that's all you're going to breathe in.
00:38:25.000 That's all you're breathing in.
00:38:26.000 It might be more than taking a few hits when you're out in the street with some friends.
00:38:30.000 Did I ever tell you about when I was a judge for the Cannabis Club?
00:38:34.000 No.
00:38:34.000 Cannabis Cup.
00:38:35.000 Cannabis Cup.
00:38:36.000 Yeah, I judged the Cannabis Cup one year.
00:38:38.000 And they would hand you...
00:38:40.000 You know how, like...
00:38:41.000 Old people that have hip injuries.
00:38:43.000 They carry around a lot of pills.
00:38:44.000 They'll have Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
00:38:47.000 One of those little seven tray things.
00:38:50.000 This is what they gave you.
00:38:51.000 And it was filled with weed.
00:38:53.000 And they were handing out pipes and lighters and edibles.
00:38:56.000 And it was so ridiculous.
00:38:58.000 The idea that anybody got judged was so ridiculous.
00:39:01.000 Hilarious.
00:39:02.000 Because it was me and a bunch of other people who were judges, like people from the local cannabis community.
00:39:07.000 And I think there were some rappers in there as well.
00:39:10.000 But by the time you're on pot number two, like who knows what's happening?
00:39:16.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:39:17.000 How do you know if three is affecting you or four is affecting you or five or one?
00:39:23.000 You don't.
00:39:23.000 You don't.
00:39:24.000 You don't have any idea.
00:39:25.000 You have to do that.
00:39:27.000 Each one for a day.
00:39:28.000 You do one, and you come back the next day, do the other one, and that still might not be enough time.
00:39:34.000 I think you're 100% right.
00:39:36.000 And then you also would have to deal with the fact that if you did it on Monday, Tuesday, if you did it every day like that, your body would get accustomed to getting high.
00:39:43.000 So you'd probably get less high as the week goes on.
00:39:46.000 Some people say that you get accustomed to different strains.
00:39:49.000 That's Joey Diaz, though.
00:39:51.000 Joey Diaz, listen, dog, I smoke different shit every day.
00:39:54.000 I don't want these motherfuckers getting used to me.
00:39:57.000 Used to me.
00:39:59.000 He thinks you get used to certain kinds of weed and they don't affect you anymore.
00:40:04.000 You gotta try new shit.
00:40:06.000 He might be onto something, though.
00:40:08.000 I think he's right.
00:40:08.000 I think he's right?
00:40:09.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:40:10.000 Yeah, I think he's right too, in some sort of a way.
00:40:12.000 For sure, with like, sativas versus indicas, there's definitely a different feeling, right?
00:40:18.000 There's so many strains here you can get out of the store.
00:40:20.000 You can try it.
00:40:21.000 Just smoke one for a week, and then just get a different one.
00:40:25.000 You'll be like, holy shit.
00:40:26.000 You can't even get cheaper weed instead of smoking all the top shelf stuff.
00:40:29.000 What's fucking me up now, sativa or indica?
00:40:32.000 This is sativa.
00:40:32.000 Sativa.
00:40:33.000 Yeah.
00:40:34.000 This is, I'll tell you what it's called.
00:40:36.000 Are they labeled?
00:40:37.000 These are all from L.A. Speedweed.
00:40:40.000 L.A. Speedweed's the way to go, ladies and gentlemen, if you're in Los Angeles.
00:40:44.000 Los Angeles is the most ridiculous thing in the world because they're trying to stop that, and they're trying to stop it in some sort of a zoning way.
00:40:54.000 What they're trying to say is, because he's delivering it, where he's selling it becomes a place of business.
00:40:59.000 So it has to be zoned in a certain way.
00:41:02.000 This is the argument.
00:41:03.000 Which is ridiculous, because how would fast food restaurants deliver?
00:41:07.000 How would Domino's deliver?
00:41:08.000 Because these places aren't zoned for being restaurants.
00:41:11.000 If someone just shows up at your house with a pizza, your house doesn't have to be zoned for being a restaurant for him to show up at your house with a pizza.
00:41:18.000 But if someone shows up at your house selling weed, And you live next to a school.
00:41:24.000 It becomes problematic.
00:41:26.000 It's interesting.
00:41:27.000 It's an interesting argument.
00:41:28.000 It's going to go away because it's silly.
00:41:30.000 But it's going to cost a lot of people some money.
00:41:33.000 And probably Gino from L.A. Speedweed is going to cost him some money.
00:41:36.000 Speed is like something the city makes up to try to make some money.
00:41:39.000 Yeah, probably.
00:41:40.000 Well, it might be someone who's anti-weed, who is at the top.
00:41:43.000 I have some friends that are not pot smokers, that don't like pot, don't believe in pot, and they're older than me.
00:41:51.000 And they'll still hang on to some of these silly ideas about pot.
00:41:56.000 And they'll go, well, you're different.
00:41:58.000 You know, to me.
00:41:59.000 I go, oh, I'm different.
00:42:01.000 Like, what are you talking about?
00:42:02.000 I'm like, 90% of potheads are like me.
00:42:05.000 Like, it's the ones who stand out are the ones that are the outliers.
00:42:09.000 It's the ones with the dirty feet and the fucking macrame clothes and, you know, playing fucking...
00:42:14.000 What is that thing when you kick the ball with your foot?
00:42:17.000 Hacky sack?
00:42:18.000 Yeah.
00:42:19.000 It's funny.
00:42:19.000 It's like when you belong to a group, there's always an annoying...
00:42:23.000 Section of that group.
00:42:25.000 Yes.
00:42:25.000 That makes you not want to belong to that group.
00:42:26.000 Of course.
00:42:27.000 That's where black people or gay people, a certain type of gay people that other gay people like can't stand.
00:42:32.000 Yeah.
00:42:33.000 Because it might give gay people a bad look and they say same thing with weed.
00:42:38.000 Yeah.
00:42:38.000 And then somebody who's against that thing completely beats you.
00:42:42.000 Like I've been, you know, like when I was a teenager, white people were like, you're different than other black guys.
00:42:48.000 Yeah.
00:42:49.000 Which was an insult.
00:42:50.000 For sure.
00:42:51.000 That's like in the social justice warrior handbook of how not to talk to black guys.
00:42:55.000 Exactly.
00:42:55.000 It's almost as bad as saying nigga.
00:42:59.000 But you're telling me?
00:43:00.000 I'd rather you call me nigga at that point.
00:43:03.000 Because now you're telling me I'm not black enough.
00:43:06.000 Right.
00:43:07.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:43:07.000 Right.
00:43:07.000 And first of all, you don't know any other black people.
00:43:10.000 We're working at Burger King.
00:43:11.000 I'm the first one you met.
00:43:12.000 So you're only listening.
00:43:13.000 The only thing you know about black people is what you see on the news.
00:43:16.000 So then you meet me and you don't feel threatened.
00:43:19.000 Then you're like, you're not like other black guys.
00:43:20.000 But I'm the only black person you know.
00:43:22.000 You live in an all-white neighborhood.
00:43:23.000 I'm working in an all-white neighborhood Burger King.
00:43:26.000 That's hilarious.
00:43:27.000 It's so true.
00:43:28.000 That's one of the reasons why New York City is such a good place to live.
00:43:32.000 Because everybody integrates.
00:43:33.000 Because New York City, everybody's on the subway, everybody's walking on the street, and everybody's around everybody.
00:43:38.000 One of the weird things about LA in general is that it's a car culture, and you're in your little isolated box, and you drive to your little isolated community, and then you go back and forth from work to wherever you hang out, and those are your spots.
00:43:52.000 And you don't interact with other people face-to-face, person-to-person on a daily basis.
00:43:57.000 That's the best thing about New York.
00:43:59.000 Yeah.
00:43:59.000 Because that train, man, everybody's on that train.
00:44:01.000 Everybody's on the train.
00:44:02.000 All kinds of people.
00:44:03.000 Because even if you're rich enough to take a taxi...
00:44:08.000 It's traffic up there.
00:44:10.000 The train is still the fastest place, fastest way to get somewhere.
00:44:13.000 It's the only way to go.
00:44:14.000 It's mixed, man.
00:44:16.000 It's good.
00:44:17.000 It's super important, too, because one of the things that I think everybody who I know who used to be poor...
00:44:25.000 Ron White and I were talking about this the other night.
00:44:27.000 When you haven't made it, when you're broke, you always feel like It's never gonna happen.
00:44:34.000 You always feel like it's completely out of touch.
00:44:36.000 Like, I'm poor.
00:44:38.000 I'm always gonna be poor.
00:44:39.000 This fucking struggle's never gonna go away.
00:44:41.000 But when you're around people who used to be poor too, but they figured out how to do it, you go, oh, they're just a fucking person.
00:44:50.000 You know and when you see some dude and he's in some corner office and some giant-ass building and he's a CEO of the company You can't imagine that at one point in that guy's life He was fucked up like at one point in his life.
00:45:03.000 He's depressed and lost and failing in school and couldn't figure it out You know and was wondering about his future, but almost everybody has Lowe's most everybody has Almost every successful person that I've ever met had some crazy adversity early on.
00:45:19.000 They figured their way through that, and then they figured out how to become successful, partially even because of that.
00:45:24.000 So when you're on a train and everybody's all together, I think it's one of the best ways to keep that separation, that us and them separation, with the classes especially.
00:45:37.000 Because...
00:45:38.000 That's a real fucking mindset of rich people and a real mindset of poor people.
00:45:44.000 That they're just two different groups of us.
00:45:47.000 But it's so stupid.
00:45:49.000 It's just a bunch of people and they're on the same journey that you're on in a different direction, just maybe a little bit further down the road.
00:45:57.000 Right, right.
00:45:58.000 Or maybe they didn't stop as many times as you did.
00:46:00.000 Maybe they didn't get flat tires.
00:46:01.000 Maybe they didn't, you know, have as many potholes in the road.
00:46:04.000 But we're all just on this fucking same thing.
00:46:07.000 We're all just people.
00:46:08.000 So when you look at some dude, you know, and you're poor, and you got holes in your sneakers, and some guy's got a Rolex on, and he's wearing this expensive suit, and he's got cufflinks, and he's checking his newspaper and reading the Wall Street Journal, and you look at his expensive shoes like, this motherfucker's got some money, man.
00:46:23.000 How the hell did he do that?
00:46:24.000 And I'm here a loser.
00:46:27.000 He just did it.
00:46:28.000 He's just a person, just like you, man.
00:46:30.000 Right.
00:46:30.000 You don't know.
00:46:31.000 You never look at it as an origin story.
00:46:33.000 Yeah.
00:46:33.000 You just look straight at Batman doing his shit.
00:46:36.000 Exactly.
00:46:37.000 You don't see where they had to go through to, you know.
00:46:38.000 That's a good point.
00:46:39.000 Learn all that shit.
00:46:40.000 That's a good way to put it.
00:46:41.000 You want to get there.
00:46:43.000 Yeah, you want to get there, but it seems like it's impossible.
00:46:46.000 Speaking of getting there, I tried to watch soccer last night, Ian Edwards.
00:46:49.000 Oh, yeah, I was going to bring that up.
00:46:50.000 People tweeted me that you're watching soccer.
00:46:53.000 I'm going to invite you to a game on Sunday at the Galaxy.
00:46:57.000 I can't.
00:46:57.000 This is Mother's Day.
00:46:58.000 Mother's Day.
00:46:58.000 Oh, shit.
00:46:58.000 Yeah, it can't happen.
00:46:59.000 I can't do it.
00:47:00.000 Yeah, what happened?
00:47:01.000 Why?
00:47:02.000 Well, I was at the store, and we were hanging out in the secret comedian's bar, and soccer was on.
00:47:09.000 So we just started watching it.
00:47:11.000 Who was watching that shit?
00:47:12.000 Who had that on?
00:47:13.000 Ron White was watching it.
00:47:14.000 I was watching it.
00:47:15.000 Some of the employees were watching it.
00:47:17.000 Who else was in there with us?
00:47:19.000 Tony was watching it at one point.
00:47:20.000 But I started getting upset at these dudes getting slapped and going down like they got hit with a meteor.
00:47:26.000 I didn't like that.
00:47:27.000 I'm like, I just can't support this kind of nonsense.
00:47:30.000 You were watching a really good game.
00:47:32.000 Yeah.
00:47:32.000 You were watching a really good game.
00:47:34.000 Yeah, it was amazing, skill-wise.
00:47:36.000 Bayern Munich in the red.
00:47:37.000 They're the best German team.
00:47:39.000 And this is a Champions League game.
00:47:42.000 So I don't even know how to explain it.
00:47:44.000 Champions League is where the four...
00:47:47.000 Best teams in each league in each country playing a tournament to be the best club team in Europe.
00:47:55.000 So Bayern is the number one team in Germany.
00:47:59.000 Athletico, they're number two, number three.
00:48:01.000 Right now, they're actually in the number two spot right now.
00:48:04.000 But last year, they finished maybe second or third.
00:48:06.000 And they have less money.
00:48:10.000 But their coach is an ex-Argentina player, and he figured out a system where they just hustle.
00:48:17.000 They just out-hustle you.
00:48:18.000 You get the ball, and there's three motherfuckers on you, and you're gonna cough it up, and they're gonna get it, and they'll score one or two goals a game, and that's enough.
00:48:27.000 And Bayern is just so really skilled that they might be able to...
00:48:32.000 They beat most teams, but Atletico is just so disciplined that they knocked them out.
00:48:39.000 And they're going to the Champions League final versus Real Madrid.
00:48:43.000 So there's two Spanish teams in the Champions League final, and both of them are from the same city.
00:48:49.000 So it's like the Lakers versus the Clippers for the best...
00:48:53.000 The championship of what are we in?
00:48:57.000 Of North America?
00:48:59.000 When we do it in North America, we call it the World Championships.
00:49:03.000 We call it the what?
00:49:04.000 Yeah, the NBA is the World Championships, right?
00:49:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:49:08.000 It's just because it's all the best players in the world, technically.
00:49:10.000 No, I understand.
00:49:11.000 But when they do it in the World Cup, it actually is the world.
00:49:15.000 It is the world, yeah.
00:49:16.000 It is the world.
00:49:16.000 Because there's not really any competition coming over from Europe trying to play against the Lakers, right?
00:49:22.000 It's just not really going to happen.
00:49:24.000 They're not going to have a team that they develop overseas that can compete with an L.A. team.
00:49:27.000 Like, basketball has this thing where...
00:49:29.000 I think they have, like, all the North American...
00:49:32.000 They have a tournament where all the...
00:49:33.000 Like, Brazil and...
00:49:35.000 And, like, all the...
00:49:38.000 Are we in North America?
00:49:39.000 Where are we?
00:49:40.000 There's North America.
00:49:40.000 All the North American teams or...
00:49:42.000 Did you really ask that?
00:49:42.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:49:44.000 Listen, man.
00:49:44.000 You were born in another country.
00:49:45.000 I've just been hotboxed.
00:49:47.000 Oh.
00:49:48.000 Like, I don't know what the fuck is...
00:49:50.000 I've just been hotboxed.
00:49:52.000 So...
00:49:53.000 So yeah, all the countries play around this area, around this area, play against each other.
00:50:00.000 And I guess America normally wins.
00:50:02.000 But this is a big tournament, man.
00:50:06.000 Yeah, this is the actual whole world.
00:50:08.000 And that's what I was thinking.
00:50:10.000 Are there any sports where the United States competes with the whole world and does well?
00:50:15.000 In soccer?
00:50:16.000 No, in any other sport.
00:50:17.000 Yeah.
00:50:18.000 Well, I was just going to say the difference in this, too, is where you're thinking, I guess, maybe World Cup is teams for countries.
00:50:24.000 This is teams for professional clubs.
00:50:26.000 These teams are owned.
00:50:27.000 So these teams wouldn't necessarily play the United States.
00:50:30.000 They would play like the Columbus Crew or the LA Galaxy.
00:50:34.000 But they're not on the same skill level, so it would be a really bad game.
00:50:37.000 Okay, so when someone says like Manchester United, that's a club?
00:50:41.000 That's a club.
00:50:41.000 That's like...
00:50:42.000 The Yankees.
00:50:43.000 Okay.
00:50:43.000 Yeah, that's like the Yankees in soccer in England.
00:50:46.000 Okay.
00:50:48.000 But when you would think of...
00:50:49.000 So they would play against a bunch of other different...
00:50:52.000 They also...
00:50:52.000 There's a Real Madrid basketball team and they wouldn't want to play against like any NBA team because they would get destroyed the same way they would beat our soccer teams.
00:51:00.000 But the United States plays Spain in like World Cup type competition.
00:51:04.000 And we also have something like that where it's a CONCACAF And it's like United States versus Mexico versus some of the smaller Latin American countries.
00:51:11.000 What I was getting at was, is there a sport where the United States is competitive in a world stage?
00:51:19.000 Like basketball.
00:51:21.000 Yeah, like basketball.
00:51:22.000 Yeah, but the world doesn't play basketball.
00:51:25.000 The problem with us being competitive at basketball, it's like someone over here being a cricket champion.
00:51:30.000 Nobody gives a fuck.
00:51:31.000 Like if you go to Greece or Turkey or Spain, they have...
00:51:35.000 They have their version of the NBA, right?
00:51:38.000 Right.
00:51:38.000 They have their version of the NBA, but those teams and those players are not as good as ours.
00:51:43.000 And they come from all different countries.
00:51:46.000 And then when it's time for you to play for your country, you're still not as good as America.
00:51:50.000 And that's when, in the Olympics, they have a world championship for basketball, for real, I think.
00:51:56.000 And they have the Olympics, which is like the one that everybody pays attention to the most.
00:52:02.000 That's where all the countries get together and play basketball.
00:52:04.000 But isn't it fascinating that there's a clear winner as far as like who's the best?
00:52:10.000 Still, when what is basketball really?
00:52:12.000 It's moving your feet, which everybody knows how to do, throwing a ball, which most people know how to do, dribbling, and then learning how to get super awesome at all those skills, right?
00:52:23.000 That doesn't seem like...
00:52:25.000 It's not like something where someone has to teach you, some master strategist who's like the greatest in the world has to teach you.
00:52:32.000 It's almost like a form of expression.
00:52:34.000 Right.
00:52:35.000 It's like, why are Americans so much better at it?
00:52:38.000 I think...
00:52:40.000 I don't know.
00:52:40.000 It's like in soccer, Brazil.
00:52:43.000 I've been trying to ask myself the same question.
00:52:44.000 Why is Brazil so good at soccer?
00:52:46.000 They love it.
00:52:47.000 But a lot of countries around the world love it.
00:52:49.000 But they have like five World Cup championships.
00:52:53.000 Or maybe six.
00:52:54.000 Germany's good too.
00:52:55.000 Brazil has a great history of soccer.
00:52:58.000 Like with Pelé, of course.
00:52:59.000 But they also have a great history of nationalism and competitive athletics.
00:53:05.000 Think about how many Brazilian MMA champions there are.
00:53:08.000 I mean, there's so many Brazilians.
00:53:10.000 Roger Gracie just won one FC last night, so there's a new Brazilian champion.
00:53:15.000 There's so many Brazilian champions.
00:53:17.000 He choked out some dude in one FC, which is the Asia version of the UFC, which is getting bigger and bigger.
00:53:24.000 There's a bunch of like...
00:53:26.000 Really big organizations overseas now that are starting to build up momentum.
00:53:32.000 But if you look at martial arts champions from Brazil, Jesus Christ, there's so many of them.
00:53:38.000 So many in the UFC, so many former champions, so many elite high-level fighters.
00:53:43.000 There's a card...
00:53:45.000 Next weekend in Brazil.
00:53:46.000 And it's all like the killers of the killer.
00:53:51.000 Brazilian champions.
00:53:52.000 Vitor Belfort versus Jacare.
00:53:55.000 Anderson Silva's fighting Uriah Hall.
00:53:57.000 Oh my god.
00:53:58.000 It's incredible.
00:53:59.000 There's so much super high-level talent that came out of Brazil.
00:54:03.000 Is Uriah Brazilian?
00:54:04.000 Uriah Faber?
00:54:05.000 Yeah.
00:54:05.000 No, you mean Raya Hall.
00:54:06.000 Oh, okay.
00:54:07.000 Uriah Hall's black.
00:54:08.000 He's from Jamaica, I believe.
00:54:10.000 Oh, that big monster dude.
00:54:12.000 Dude.
00:54:12.000 Oh, yeah, the robot.
00:54:13.000 He's dark as cold.
00:54:14.000 Yeah.
00:54:15.000 Fucking lightning fast.
00:54:16.000 He's one of my favorites.
00:54:17.000 That dude, he's such a nice guy, too.
00:54:20.000 That's the thing about him.
00:54:22.000 He made some really heartfelt statement once after one of his fights about people getting along.
00:54:30.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:54:31.000 This guy is legit.
00:54:32.000 This is really him.
00:54:33.000 He's such a nice guy.
00:54:35.000 That's almost been one of the things that held him back.
00:54:38.000 Dana White had criticized him of it.
00:54:39.000 He said he's so talented, but he's almost too nice for fighting.
00:54:43.000 I don't think that's true.
00:54:45.000 I think he just needs more fights, but he's got a big one with Anderson Silva.
00:54:49.000 It's a big crossroads fight.
00:54:51.000 It shows where Anderson's at, because if Anderson can get past Uriah, who's one of the best 185-pounders alive right now, Uriah is a lightning-fast striker.
00:54:59.000 I'm picturing Uriah...
00:55:00.000 And he feels bigger than Anderson Silva.
00:55:03.000 No, he's more muscular for sure.
00:55:05.000 He's built way better.
00:55:06.000 He's probably faster, which is crazy.
00:55:09.000 But, you know, we're talking about Anderson Silva at 40 years old versus Anderson Silva at like 34. But Uriah, he's got traditional martial arts skills at a super, super high level.
00:55:21.000 He does a lot of stuff like spinning back kicks and wheel kicks and knocks guys out with him.
00:55:26.000 And real high level guys.
00:55:27.000 Like he hit Gegard Mousasi.
00:55:29.000 There's Uriah.
00:55:30.000 He hit Gegard Mousasi with a spinning back kick to the face.
00:55:34.000 And it was a fight that we were calling for Fight Companion.
00:55:37.000 And my thoughts on him, I was like, I'm telling you, this guy can do things in these explosive movements.
00:55:43.000 And I'm like...
00:55:45.000 I'm so used to seeing people move.
00:55:47.000 You know, I'm so used to seeing the way people throw kicks, the way people throw punches.
00:55:50.000 When someone's movements stand out, like, ooh, Jesus Christ.
00:55:54.000 Like, they've got it honed down to a razor's edge with just lightning precision.
00:56:00.000 It just really stands out.
00:56:02.000 And that's Uriah Hall.
00:56:03.000 Uriah Hall has these movements occasionally where he'll just drop a right hand on someone's chin and you just go, whoa!
00:56:09.000 Like, that guy was not moving.
00:56:12.000 By the time that punch got to him, he had no idea that punch was coming.
00:56:15.000 I mean, his ability to close the distance with a shot is so fucking scary.
00:56:22.000 So it's an interesting fight in that regard.
00:56:24.000 And I don't think it has, does it have their age there?
00:56:27.000 Why are they hiding their age?
00:56:29.000 What are they, little girls?
00:56:30.000 What kind of shit is that?
00:56:31.000 Show your fucking age.
00:56:33.000 Why would they have all these different things?
00:56:36.000 Yeah, I was looking for height, too.
00:56:37.000 Oh, okay.
00:56:38.000 So this is the stats.
00:56:40.000 They have the reach, and they have the weight, and then they have the height.
00:56:44.000 I was always amazed how Anderson Silva's body does not match his record.
00:56:49.000 Well, Anderson Silva, when he was in his prime, looked a little bit better than that.
00:56:54.000 But his body is a really good body for fighting.
00:56:58.000 Because in fighting, say a guy like Uriah Hall might be able to punch 10 or 15% harder than Anderson.
00:57:06.000 Who knows?
00:57:07.000 He hits really fucking hard.
00:57:09.000 Let's say he can.
00:57:10.000 But if Anderson hits him, the 90% That Anderson can come up with is just as good.
00:57:17.000 The clean shots are the most important thing.
00:57:20.000 It doesn't take a giant bomb to knock you out.
00:57:23.000 A giant bomb can knock you out, but it doesn't take a giant bomb to knock you out.
00:57:28.000 What it takes is a shot you don't see coming and a perfectly placed shot.
00:57:32.000 And Anderson is the master at perfectly placed shots.
00:57:35.000 He's the master.
00:57:37.000 He's the ultimate sniper.
00:57:38.000 Out of all the guys that have ever fought in the UFC, he impresses me the most with his ability to land these highlight reel shots on people.
00:57:48.000 Highlight reel.
00:57:50.000 He caught James Irvin's kick and just caved his face in with a punch.
00:57:54.000 The guy threw a kick, Anderson caught it, and ba-boom!
00:57:58.000 And you could see the dude had never been hit like that before.
00:58:01.000 He goes down and Anderson just uncorks a couple more on him and opens him up.
00:58:05.000 When he fought Vitor, he front kicked Vitor in the face.
00:58:07.000 It was like the perfect front kick knockout.
00:58:10.000 And it was the first ever front kick knockout in the history of the UFC. Nobody had ever done it before.
00:58:16.000 And he did it in a high-level world championship fight against Vitor Belfort.
00:58:20.000 It's crazy because it's the first kick you learn in martial arts.
00:58:24.000 It's like the first kick.
00:58:26.000 You learn how to do a front kick.
00:58:27.000 And nobody, everybody goes, ah, that shit doesn't work.
00:58:29.000 You gotta go with the brownhouse kicks.
00:58:31.000 And Anderson lands it right on his face.
00:58:34.000 Anderson's a free-ass dude.
00:58:35.000 You think, is he back?
00:58:38.000 He's 40, so whatever back is, it's not going to be the same back.
00:58:44.000 But if you look at a guy like Bernard Hopkins, Bernard Hopkins, who's an incredibly skillful, technical boxer, is still, at this day, like there's a video of him working out the other day, he was hitting mitts.
00:58:56.000 He looks...
00:58:56.000 Fucking great.
00:58:57.000 He's 50 years old.
00:58:58.000 He looks fucking great.
00:59:00.000 Like Bernard Hopkins right now at 50 years old could get in the ring and school solid 50% of the professional light heavyweights in the world.
00:59:09.000 School them.
00:59:09.000 He would look ugly, but he'd school you.
00:59:11.000 School them.
00:59:11.000 He would hold the shit out of you.
00:59:13.000 Hold the shit out of you.
00:59:14.000 Jab your fucking face off.
00:59:16.000 Move in weird ways.
00:59:18.000 Step on your toes.
00:59:19.000 Upset your balance.
00:59:20.000 Mug you in the corner.
00:59:22.000 Hit you with short, hard punches while he's clenching you.
00:59:25.000 Annoy you, get in your head, get you out of your game, frustrate you.
00:59:29.000 Or bomb you out like he did Felix Trinidad.
00:59:32.000 That Felix Trinidad fight, he put on a show with Felix Trinidad.
00:59:35.000 I was always a big Bernard Hopkins fan, so when he fought Trinidad and fucked him up, for me it was like, I knew it!
00:59:41.000 I was surprised.
00:59:42.000 I thought Felix was the truth, you know?
00:59:44.000 Well, he was.
00:59:45.000 He was for a moment.
00:59:46.000 I don't think he respected Bernard.
00:59:51.000 I don't think he knew how good Bernard really was.
00:59:54.000 I think he was doing so well, and Trinidad was such a world beater and just such a tough dude.
00:59:59.000 I think he thought he could get through anything.
01:00:02.000 I think he was one of those guys that, I'm going to get through everybody.
01:00:06.000 He's been to war before, he's been tagged, come out and knock guys out.
01:00:10.000 But Bernard was on another level that night.
01:00:13.000 Yeah, I've never seen anybody like Bernard.
01:00:16.000 It's not traditional boxing.
01:00:20.000 Somebody who does that doesn't get as far as him.
01:00:23.000 I've never seen somebody and do it that much.
01:00:25.000 Well, he's a master.
01:00:27.000 He's a real master.
01:00:28.000 If you watch his footwork in the ring, it's always measured.
01:00:33.000 It's always under control.
01:00:34.000 He always knows exactly what he's doing.
01:00:36.000 And when he doesn't know exactly what he's doing, he resets.
01:00:39.000 He's not winging anything.
01:00:40.000 He's not taking any stupid chances.
01:00:42.000 What was that?
01:00:43.000 The dude he beat for the title at 49 years of age was this fucking young stud.
01:00:48.000 This guy was like 32 years old, some Russian dude, bad motherfucker, and he dropped him.
01:00:54.000 Bernard dropped him at 49 years of age.
01:00:56.000 And people were like, God, and then he fought Kovalev.
01:00:59.000 And that was the fight that showed there's a difference between the highest of the high level right now and where Bernard is right now with his life, being 49 years old.
01:01:09.000 Because Kovalev was just too much for him.
01:01:11.000 And Bernard went into a shell.
01:01:12.000 And just fought real defensively and tried to survive, but Kovalev was opening up on him.
01:01:17.000 Kovalev is fucking scary.
01:01:18.000 That guy's the real deal.
01:01:20.000 There's a lot of badass fucking Russians these days.
01:01:23.000 I know.
01:01:25.000 Like, it must be tough in Russia, right?
01:01:27.000 It's gotta be tough.
01:01:28.000 It's gotta be tough in Russia.
01:01:29.000 Like, they're getting all the boxes.
01:01:31.000 Like, this is like the sport where, like, a lot of sports, a lot of poor people come out and they get to the top of it, but you could tell where it's poor Where the poorest people are based on who's the best boxers in the world.
01:01:44.000 It's true.
01:01:44.000 Like, Russia must be rough right now.
01:01:46.000 That's a real good point.
01:01:48.000 You know, that's how it always worked in America, too.
01:01:50.000 It's like, that's why Jews were a lot of boxers in the early days of the early part of the 20th century were Jewish.
01:01:57.000 Slappy Maxi Rosenblum.
01:01:59.000 That was a dude.
01:02:01.000 There was a bunch of them, man.
01:02:02.000 You could not have that as a boxing name right now.
01:02:05.000 You could.
01:02:05.000 You could be silly.
01:02:06.000 You could be silly, but nobody would take you serious.
01:02:08.000 Slappy Maxi.
01:02:09.000 One of the top featherweight in the UFC, Andre Feely.
01:02:12.000 His nickname is Andre Touchy Feely.
01:02:15.000 Oh, boy.
01:02:18.000 That's a weird-ass name.
01:02:19.000 He's a fun dude.
01:02:20.000 He's a fun dude.
01:02:21.000 He has fun with it.
01:02:23.000 That's hilarious.
01:02:24.000 Yeah, man.
01:02:25.000 It's interesting how that works that way.
01:02:28.000 Then it was the Italians.
01:02:29.000 There was a lot of Italians like Rocky Marciano, Rocky Graziano.
01:02:32.000 There's a lot of...
01:02:34.000 Some Irish.
01:02:35.000 Yeah.
01:02:36.000 A lot of Irish, a lot of immigrants.
01:02:38.000 It's immigrants that are poor people that need to learn how to fight to survive.
01:02:42.000 Yeah, literally fight to survive.
01:02:44.000 That's one of the reasons why these Russians are so fucking tough, man.
01:02:47.000 They're coming from a harder place.
01:02:49.000 It's a harder world.
01:02:53.000 Kovalev is a straight-up killer.
01:02:54.000 You see it in his eyes when he's in the ring.
01:02:56.000 He ain't scared of shit.
01:02:57.000 He's just gonna fuck you up, you know?
01:03:00.000 Damn, son.
01:03:01.000 And then Gennady Golovkin, he's another one.
01:03:04.000 Everybody's scared of that fucking thing.
01:03:05.000 No, what weight class?
01:03:06.000 I haven't watched boxing in a while.
01:03:08.000 He's 160. He used to be my thing, but...
01:03:09.000 He's a middleweight champ.
01:03:10.000 He fucks everybody up.
01:03:12.000 Damn.
01:03:12.000 He's 100% undefeated, and he's knocked everyone out.
01:03:15.000 Jesus.
01:03:15.000 I think maybe he had one fight that went in the distance, or maybe a couple fights that went the distance, but he's on some ridiculous knockout streak in a row.
01:03:23.000 Mm-hmm.
01:03:23.000 I should know that for sure.
01:03:24.000 Pull that up.
01:03:25.000 Gernardi Golovkin.
01:03:26.000 Triple G. Just a Triple G record.
01:03:28.000 I'm just impressed you can say his name so smoothly.
01:03:31.000 Well, he's got a second name that I can't.
01:03:33.000 If there's a Triple G, it's Gernardi something something something Golovkin.
01:03:37.000 The middle one.
01:03:38.000 I don't even try with that.
01:03:40.000 It's hilarious.
01:03:41.000 But he's a fucking assassin, man.
01:03:44.000 His name sounds like when you fall asleep on your keyboard.
01:03:48.000 Yeah.
01:03:49.000 And then you wake up and you just see a bunch of letters.
01:03:53.000 Yeah, they're all KOs.
01:03:56.000 Okay, unanimous decision, there we go.
01:03:58.000 That's way back in 2008, he had a unanimous decision win.
01:04:04.000 But he's got a couple unanimous decisions, three there that I see.
01:04:07.000 So he's on a streak of like, how many KOs in a row?
01:04:11.000 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, it's a lot.
01:04:15.000 21 KOs.
01:04:18.000 You know, it's funny about this chart, like, to see the flags from the different countries that people he's knocked out.
01:04:24.000 Yeah, it is funny, right?
01:04:25.000 That's a lot of, you know, knocked out a lot of people from a lot of places.
01:04:29.000 He's so next level.
01:04:31.000 He fought Dominic Wade in his last fight.
01:04:33.000 Jesus Christ, man.
01:04:35.000 He fucked that dude up.
01:04:37.000 He's so next level.
01:04:38.000 So dangerous, man.
01:04:41.000 At one point in the fight, he dropped his hands, and he was letting Wade punch him.
01:04:45.000 Oh, shit.
01:04:46.000 He was just moving his head as Wade was punching him, and then he uncorks bombs on him.
01:04:49.000 He's a terrifying guy.
01:04:51.000 And he looks like a little cutie pie.
01:04:53.000 Like, you ever see what he looks like?
01:04:55.000 No.
01:04:56.000 Go to a picture of him.
01:04:57.000 Look at him.
01:04:58.000 He's a cutie.
01:05:00.000 Oh shit, that's a baby!
01:05:01.000 He's a baby-faced assassin.
01:05:03.000 He's like the real baby-faced assassin.
01:05:05.000 Like that guy looks like a straight-up cutie.
01:05:07.000 Like a handsome young man.
01:05:08.000 Like an innocent ass.
01:05:10.000 A handsome young man with fine manners.
01:05:13.000 He dresses well.
01:05:14.000 Dress almost a mime, just like a mime kind of French.
01:05:17.000 Meanwhile, that dude is probably a direct descendant of the Mongols.
01:05:22.000 That's probably what it is.
01:05:23.000 Like, no bullshit.
01:05:24.000 Russians, like Russia, was occupied by the Mongols for 200 years.
01:05:30.000 And a lot of these guys, like Ruslan Provodnikov, who's going to be on the podcast soon with Nick Curzon.
01:05:36.000 Yeah, they're going to come on together.
01:05:37.000 That should be fun.
01:05:38.000 That fucking dude grew up in, like, Siberia.
01:05:40.000 He was eating raw moose.
01:05:42.000 He ate raw meat until he was, like, 25 years old.
01:05:46.000 He'd never had cooked meat.
01:05:47.000 His family ate raw moose.
01:05:49.000 Jesus Christ.
01:05:51.000 Pravodnikov is a fucking animal.
01:05:54.000 Now, he looks like he ate raw moose.
01:05:56.000 Yeah, he did.
01:05:57.000 But I mean, this is a guy who is another one, probably a direct descendant of the Mongols.
01:06:03.000 There were so many fucking super warriors that came out of that DNA. And you look at a guy like Provodnikov, I mean, he just screams like ancient warrior DNA. I mean, look at him.
01:06:19.000 Look at his face and the way he fights.
01:06:21.000 You gotta hit that dude with a fucking crowbar to hurt him.
01:06:26.000 He engages in wars with these people.
01:06:29.000 Man, I gotta get back into boxing.
01:06:30.000 That Lucas Matisse fight was insane.
01:06:33.000 Provodnikov and Matisse just teed off on each other.
01:06:36.000 And Matisse is a brutal knockout puncher.
01:06:39.000 And when he was hitting Provodnikov, you were like, how is he absorbing these shots?
01:06:46.000 He's absorbed shots that Matisse was able to put everybody else away with.
01:06:49.000 Like, look at that shot.
01:06:50.000 Boom!
01:06:51.000 Matisse, like, it's a weird, like, you look at the guy and you say, okay, obviously he looks like he's in shape, he looks athletic, but he doesn't look like a big power puncher, right?
01:07:00.000 Mm-hmm.
01:07:01.000 If you look at him, he's not built like Marvin Hagler or Mike Tyson or something like that.
01:07:06.000 He's more smooth.
01:07:07.000 And it just shows you that punching power is a really weird thing.
01:07:13.000 And it's not saying that Matisse is in any way unfit.
01:07:16.000 He's very fit, very strong, very good athlete.
01:07:19.000 But his punching power is almost just skeletal.
01:07:23.000 It comes from his frame in some sort of a strange way.
01:07:26.000 And there's a bunch of guys that are like that.
01:07:29.000 There's this kid in the UFC. His name is Mike McDonald.
01:07:32.000 And he's like that.
01:07:33.000 Go to Mike McDonald.
01:07:34.000 This kid is a murderous puncher.
01:07:36.000 But if you look at him, he looks like a regular kid.
01:07:42.000 Like a regular athlete.
01:07:44.000 Some people, you expect them, when you look at their body, you're like, this person probably can hit hard.
01:07:49.000 Look at this kid.
01:07:49.000 And they don't.
01:07:50.000 He's got a sweet face.
01:07:53.000 Goofy face.
01:07:54.000 See if you can get a picture of his whole body just standing there.
01:07:58.000 You get a sense of, like, he's obviously a good athlete, but, like, right there, it's a good example.
01:08:05.000 He's obviously a good athlete, but his punching power is disturbing.
01:08:08.000 It's disturbing.
01:08:10.000 Like, he fucking cracks guys with shots, and you see the look on their faces, like, what in the fuck?
01:08:16.000 What is going on with this dude's hands?
01:08:19.000 He just hit so fucking hard and with so much precision.
01:08:23.000 He's nasty on the ground, too.
01:08:25.000 He's a real threat, this kid.
01:08:27.000 And he's super young.
01:08:28.000 I think he's only like 23. Jesus.
01:08:31.000 Yeah, he already fought for the title.
01:08:32.000 He lost to Burrell in a crazy fight.
01:08:34.000 But a fight where he really got tested.
01:08:37.000 Really showed what he's capable of.
01:08:39.000 But the body thing, it's very strange.
01:08:42.000 You never know.
01:08:44.000 It's weird.
01:08:45.000 Punching power is different than almost any other kind of athletic power.
01:08:50.000 You don't see it coming.
01:08:51.000 If you see someone who has a big ass and fucking giant quads and they're on the starting block, you're like, I bet that fucking dude can run.
01:08:59.000 But you see a guy like McDonald's and you wouldn't necessarily go, I bet that guy can fucking punch.
01:09:05.000 Whereas Uriah Hall, They're both murderous punchers, but Uriah Hall, you see it.
01:09:09.000 You literally go, well, obviously that guy can punch.
01:09:11.000 Look at him.
01:09:11.000 You'd be more surprised if he couldn't.
01:09:13.000 Yeah.
01:09:14.000 And there are guys like that, too, which is weird.
01:09:16.000 Yeah, it's weird.
01:09:16.000 Like, this person should be able to, you know...
01:09:18.000 Yeah.
01:09:19.000 It's like seeing a seven-foot center, you know?
01:09:21.000 Right.
01:09:21.000 Like, there's these centers in the NBA... You're like, oh, he's seven feet.
01:09:26.000 And they sucked from the day they were drafted, but every team, year after year, will still put them on the team because he's seven feet.
01:09:32.000 Maybe this is the year, 12 years in, when he's going to do the seven-foot shit.
01:09:39.000 And they never do it, but they make all this money because they're built like they should be able to do seven-foot shit.
01:09:44.000 Or people are built like they're supposed to be able to hit and they just can't.
01:09:47.000 So do they get a guy like that and they say, well, we're going to take him in and then we're going to get our coaches on him and we're going to show this guy how to reach his full potential.
01:09:55.000 And then they just don't.
01:09:56.000 And then through the season they say, oh, I see why the other teams dropped him.
01:10:00.000 And we stuck with him on the bench.
01:10:02.000 No, you get stuck with him on the bench.
01:10:03.000 You bring him in once in a while.
01:10:05.000 With a guy that big, is it just difficult to move their body right?
01:10:09.000 They say that, but Shaq did it.
01:10:12.000 Shaq, his movement was amazing.
01:10:19.000 Almost small forward-like.
01:10:20.000 Really?
01:10:21.000 Some of the shit that he used to do.
01:10:22.000 And Akeem Alonjoan moved well.
01:10:24.000 And David Robertson moved well.
01:10:27.000 There was a lot of...
01:10:28.000 There was some...
01:10:30.000 I don't know.
01:10:34.000 There's a lot of centers that could move.
01:10:37.000 So when they say it's tough to move your body, I don't get it.
01:10:41.000 It is...
01:10:42.000 It is rare.
01:10:44.000 Like, good centers are rare.
01:10:46.000 So I guess maybe it is.
01:10:47.000 But when you see the ones that do it, it makes you look down on the people that can't.
01:10:53.000 Like, if I'm seven feet, I'm thinking, I could do some stuff.
01:10:57.000 I could be decent enough.
01:10:58.000 But there's some guys that are seven feet, and they really don't do anything except be seven feet.
01:11:04.000 Hmm.
01:11:05.000 Now, is it a benefit just having the big guy there because they can do things and block people and get in the way and make it difficult for the other team to use their offense?
01:11:14.000 Yeah.
01:11:14.000 It's a mentality.
01:11:15.000 It's like they always say you can't teach height.
01:11:17.000 Okay.
01:11:18.000 That makes sense.
01:11:19.000 And then it was like the 80s and the 90s was like the center game.
01:11:23.000 So everybody just felt more secure with a center, you know?
01:11:26.000 Right.
01:11:27.000 So they would plan their strategy around the tall guy.
01:11:29.000 Yeah, the tall guy.
01:11:30.000 Yeah, because he can get the ball above people.
01:11:33.000 He has more, like, especially the way they're throwing the ball down at people instead of, like, up and down.
01:11:38.000 Right.
01:11:39.000 He could probably do some stuff as far as, like, get in the way.
01:11:42.000 Yeah.
01:11:42.000 Get his physical body to block people in a way.
01:11:44.000 But sometimes they're not even good enough to do that, and then they have to get rid of him.
01:11:47.000 Yeah.
01:11:47.000 For real.
01:11:48.000 They say, let's get this guy.
01:11:51.000 He'll do the least.
01:11:52.000 And then they don't even do the least.
01:11:55.000 Do you think that's because they're lazy?
01:11:58.000 Because it was always easy for them?
01:12:00.000 Because they were always so big?
01:12:01.000 And so through their career, they always had a giant height advantage?
01:12:04.000 It's like being transgender.
01:12:06.000 You're a 5'4 person born in a 7' person's body.
01:12:11.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:12:14.000 Like, you're not supposed to be there.
01:12:16.000 You're supposed to be doing something else.
01:12:17.000 You just got stuck with this basketball frame.
01:12:20.000 Like, some people just can't do it.
01:12:22.000 So some people, they got stuck with a basketball frame, but they don't have a basketball mind.
01:12:27.000 Or heart, yeah.
01:12:28.000 Or heart.
01:12:28.000 You have to, like, want to move your body in very difficult ways, right?
01:12:33.000 One of the things you notice about fighters in particular, like you ever seen that guy Chocolatito fight?
01:12:40.000 No.
01:12:40.000 I believe he's a flyweight.
01:12:42.000 What weight is he?
01:12:43.000 Champion.
01:12:44.000 I watched him fight the other day.
01:12:45.000 Awesome boxer.
01:12:46.000 Amazing counter fighter.
01:12:48.000 But so light and so small.
01:12:50.000 Like Mighty Mouse in the UFC is probably a better example.
01:12:52.000 Because Mighty Mouse fights at 125 pounds and he's the best in the world.
01:12:57.000 No one can fuck with him.
01:12:58.000 Not just the best in the world at 125. He's the best in the world, hands down.
01:13:02.000 There's no argument anymore.
01:13:03.000 After his last fight where he destroyed Henry Cejudo, everybody just lifts their hands up and goes, he's the best.
01:13:08.000 He's the best.
01:13:09.000 That's good.
01:13:09.000 But he's 125 pounds, and the way he moves, I always wonder, could a 200-pound guy move like that?
01:13:15.000 Could a 255-pound guy move like that?
01:13:18.000 Is it even possible?
01:13:20.000 When you look at the super athletes that are in the NFL, and I think we can all agree, the most explosive, best athletes are in the NFL. Agreed?
01:13:30.000 Pretty close.
01:13:31.000 I mean, I think there's probably some really high-level guys in MMA at this point, but I think that overall the most explosive high-level athletes are in the NFL. If you can get one of those NFL top guys, could you teach him to move like Mighty Mouse?
01:13:47.000 If you started with him at a young age, or is it a gravity thing?
01:13:52.000 Is it that the 125-pound guy, he can just do stuff with his joints and his movement that the 260-pound guy just physically, his body can't keep up?
01:14:02.000 You know what the issue is?
01:14:04.000 It's like, if you're little, you know you're little from your little, from your young person.
01:14:09.000 So you live little, you move little, and you act little.
01:14:15.000 If you're big, Then you know you're big and there's certain things you just don't gravitate to doing because it doesn't fit your size or you're big.
01:14:25.000 So it's crazy.
01:14:27.000 You almost have to convince, hypnotize a big dude that you're little.
01:14:33.000 And make them, like, live little.
01:14:35.000 Move like a little person.
01:14:36.000 Move like a little person, like, and get used to it, and then it becomes natural.
01:14:39.000 Like, Mighty Mouse moves like, I'm little.
01:14:42.000 If I, if I, he fights like if he's fighting a bully in high school.
01:14:46.000 Like, I can't let that guy grab me.
01:14:48.000 I gotta keep moving.
01:14:49.000 Like, a big guy's like, let this motherfucker grab me.
01:14:53.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:14:54.000 I want you to grab me.
01:14:55.000 So they fight big.
01:14:57.000 It's just a mentality.
01:15:00.000 That's an excellent way of putting it.
01:15:02.000 I think you're totally right.
01:15:04.000 I think you're totally right.
01:15:05.000 Because we all do things according to just our physical makeup.
01:15:09.000 Sure.
01:15:10.000 But I wonder if you could get a guy at a young age.
01:15:14.000 Do you know the story of Marv Marinovich and Todd Marinovich?
01:15:18.000 I know Todd Marinovich.
01:15:19.000 Todd Marinovich was a famous football player, and his dad, Marv, was a famous strength and conditioning coach, and a football coach.
01:15:27.000 So his dad took Todd from the time he was really little, had him eating only healthy food, no sugar, working out like crazy, put him through all his drills, and turned him into this super athlete.
01:15:38.000 But he rebelled because it was just too much pressure and work.
01:15:41.000 He didn't want to do it.
01:15:42.000 He was doing it for his dad, then he wound up.
01:15:44.000 Then he went drugs and unhealthy.
01:15:46.000 Yeah, drugs, unhealthy.
01:15:47.000 He became an artist.
01:15:48.000 Maybe he's healthy now, I think.
01:15:49.000 Hopefully.
01:15:49.000 But it's interesting.
01:15:50.000 It's an interesting thing.
01:15:52.000 Like, this guy grabbed his young son from the time he was a baby and had him doing these strength drills and coordination drills.
01:16:00.000 Like, raised him with the idea of turning him into this.
01:16:03.000 And the results were amazing.
01:16:04.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:16:05.000 So you wonder, like, if someone could take a guy like Herschel Walker.
01:16:10.000 Herschel Walker is one of the...
01:16:11.000 It's a perfect example.
01:16:12.000 Yeah, one of the best examples.
01:16:13.000 Because Herschel actually fought MMA. Yeah, yeah.
01:16:16.000 Herschel, but he fought like a big man.
01:16:18.000 He fucked dudes up, dude.
01:16:19.000 He did it in his late 40s.
01:16:21.000 And he was legitimately a threat or good?
01:16:24.000 He was very good for the class that he was fighting in.
01:16:28.000 But he was fairly recent to MMA. But a lifelong martial artist.
01:16:34.000 Like Herschel Walker, even back in the days when he was in the NFL... Had some sort of a black belt in something.
01:16:40.000 Oh shit.
01:16:40.000 Look at him, man.
01:16:41.000 I think in that picture he was like 47. Jesus Christ.
01:16:45.000 He always looked young and good in shape and shape.
01:16:48.000 I don't understand what's going on.
01:16:49.000 I mean, that shit doesn't even make any sense.
01:16:52.000 Because he looks like he's as big as he was when he was playing professional football.
01:16:58.000 There's two line heads.
01:16:59.000 Two bare heads, yeah.
01:17:01.000 I'll kill you with my bare hands.
01:17:02.000 He's on top of this dude, ground and pounded him.
01:17:05.000 And on top of that, he trained at a world-class gym.
01:17:09.000 He went to AKA. And he trained at American Kickboxing Association, which is where...
01:17:14.000 That's Tyron Woodley, bro.
01:17:15.000 Don't get racist on me.
01:17:17.000 How dare you?
01:17:18.000 Just mixing up black men.
01:17:19.000 Yeah, you're mixing black people together here.
01:17:21.000 How dare you, Jamie?
01:17:22.000 How dare you Google?
01:17:24.000 It's Google.
01:17:25.000 It's not Jamie, it's Google.
01:17:26.000 Sorry.
01:17:26.000 Google's racist.
01:17:27.000 But Hershel Walker, when he was training, was training with Cain Velasquez when Cain was the champ.
01:17:34.000 Or if Cain wasn't the champ, he was one of the best in the world.
01:17:38.000 I'm pretty sure he was the champ, though.
01:17:40.000 And he was training with Daniel Cormier, I believe, was there at the time.
01:17:43.000 Luke Rockhold.
01:17:44.000 Kyle Kingsbury.
01:17:46.000 I mean, he's training with, like, John Fitch was there.
01:17:48.000 He's training with, like, legit, world-class mixed martial artists.
01:17:52.000 Legit guys.
01:17:53.000 And...
01:17:55.000 He was just fucking doing it like a real pro athlete would do it.
01:18:00.000 He wasn't doing it like, hey, I'm a celebrity, former football player.
01:18:03.000 I'm just going to take a fight like a Jose Canseco might do.
01:18:07.000 You ever see some of Jose Canseco's celebrity boxing matches and shit?
01:18:11.000 It's like, come on.
01:18:12.000 He kind of barely did.
01:18:13.000 Not Herschel.
01:18:14.000 Herschel went at it like a real professional martial artist.
01:18:19.000 And Strikeforce had him fight a few times.
01:18:21.000 He did that Olympic bobsled stuff for a while, too.
01:18:24.000 That's right.
01:18:24.000 He just stays active.
01:18:26.000 But he's an unbelievable athlete.
01:18:30.000 He's a rare Bo Jackson type athlete.
01:18:34.000 An outlier.
01:18:35.000 An outlier amongst professional outliers.
01:18:38.000 So if you could take a Herschel Walker and train him, get him to a guy like Matt Hume, who trained Mighty Mouse, and train him from the time he's a young man, like 15, 14 years old.
01:18:48.000 He could do it.
01:18:49.000 Fuck yeah, he could do it.
01:18:50.000 He could do it.
01:18:52.000 Yeah.
01:18:53.000 Yeah.
01:18:53.000 Yeah.
01:19:12.000 You know, your body stays like that.
01:19:14.000 It just requires unbelievable discipline.
01:19:17.000 Yeah, it does, man.
01:19:18.000 He's easy to skip days.
01:19:19.000 He's also real weird, man.
01:19:21.000 He has what's called trauma-induced multiple personality disorder.
01:19:27.000 Oh, shit.
01:19:27.000 I believe that's how he describes it.
01:19:29.000 But trauma, I'm not sure they mean head trauma.
01:19:33.000 I think it's more like childhood trauma.
01:19:36.000 Oh, okay.
01:19:37.000 I'm sure head trauma doesn't help.
01:19:39.000 Yeah, on top of that.
01:19:41.000 Because for sure, there was some head trauma.
01:19:44.000 I mean, he was one of the greatest football players of all time.
01:19:46.000 I mean, think about, I mean, if you made a list, and I'm not a football fan, but if I know you, And you never got arrested and you never raped anybody, you must be pretty fucking awesome.
01:19:56.000 Right, right, right.
01:19:56.000 You know what I mean?
01:19:57.000 Like if it wasn't some giant controversy where you were involved in like a Ray Rice type situation and a murder or something like that, if it wasn't that and I hear about you...
01:20:04.000 He was so good that the Cowboys traded him for a completely new football team that won three Super Bowls.
01:20:12.000 That's how good he was.
01:20:15.000 That's incredible.
01:20:16.000 That's incredible.
01:20:17.000 It was crazy when they were going to trade Herschel Walker.
01:20:20.000 It's like, you're going to trade Herschel Walker?
01:20:21.000 But they got a brand new team and a set of young players that ended up being their franchise.
01:20:28.000 That's how good he was.
01:20:29.000 They could get all those players.
01:20:31.000 Yeah, it's always, to me, as someone who analyzes athletics, it's always so confusing and interesting when I see someone who's just so much better than everybody else.
01:20:44.000 Like, how the fuck is he so much better?
01:20:46.000 Like, what is it?
01:20:46.000 Right.
01:20:48.000 This is a soccer thing.
01:20:49.000 I'm going to tell you the soccer thing.
01:20:51.000 So you have the NBA, right?
01:20:55.000 And the NBA is the Basketball League of America.
01:21:00.000 In England, the top league, the soccer version of the NBA is called the Premiership, right?
01:21:06.000 Premiership?
01:21:07.000 Premiership, yeah.
01:21:08.000 So there's this team named Leicester.
01:21:11.000 Now the Premiership works different than the NBA. The NBA... All the teams stay the same every year.
01:21:18.000 In soccer, there's 20 teams in the league, and the bottom three would go down to the league below at the end of the year.
01:21:29.000 If you have the least amount of points, the three teams go down, and there's a league below where the teams that finish first, second, and third come up.
01:21:41.000 So that's important because Leicester...
01:21:46.000 We're good to go.
01:22:04.000 We're good to go.
01:22:19.000 And they're winning, you know?
01:22:20.000 They're winning.
01:22:21.000 But at the beginning of every soccer season, the lower teams always win a little.
01:22:26.000 And then there's the championship stages of the season, like the second part of the season, the third, and the final fourth where teams start slipping.
01:22:36.000 But Leicester doesn't slip.
01:22:39.000 And all the players are players from cast-off teams and players that no team ever wanted to buy.
01:22:48.000 So then they get into the last seven, eight games of the season.
01:22:52.000 Everybody's like, they're going to start losing and the team behind them, Spurs, is going to catch them.
01:22:57.000 But these motherfuckers, they gel together in a style...
01:23:04.000 That I've never seen before.
01:23:05.000 Like, they're very defensive, but they'll attack you, really.
01:23:10.000 If they have these two forwards, like if you kick the ball out to them, they're fast, and then they'll score, and then they'll just shut the whole shit down.
01:23:16.000 Like, you ain't going nowhere.
01:23:18.000 It don't matter who the fuck you are, you are not going nowhere.
01:23:20.000 And on Thursday, no, on Monday...
01:23:25.000 This team, 5,000 to 1, won the premiership.
01:23:29.000 Whoa.
01:23:29.000 5,000 to 1?
01:23:31.000 Won the fucking premiership.
01:23:33.000 It is fucking crazy.
01:23:35.000 All kinds of people had little bets that they won like 50,000 on 10 bucks or 10 pounds or whatever.
01:23:41.000 It cost bookmakers 15 million dollars.
01:23:44.000 Whoa.
01:23:45.000 Because it's like the most impossible sports story.
01:23:49.000 Wow, that's incredible.
01:23:51.000 I love hearing shit like that.
01:23:52.000 But as you were talking, I started getting discouraged.
01:23:54.000 I was like, I don't know about this soccer project.
01:23:58.000 This soccer project seems like it's gonna cost me a lot of paying attention.
01:24:01.000 Start at the top.
01:24:02.000 No, you know what you do?
01:24:03.000 Just pick a team.
01:24:04.000 Get your good team.
01:24:05.000 I want you to be my mentor.
01:24:07.000 I've sort of brought you into MMA, brought you to a bunch of fights.
01:24:11.000 I want you to be my mentor and get me into soccer.
01:24:14.000 Because it seems like if I'm gonna follow some shit, I should follow some shit the whole world follows.
01:24:19.000 Everybody loves the NFL in the United States.
01:24:22.000 I'm sure it's awesome, but...
01:24:24.000 If I'm gonna follow something, I'm gonna try to follow soccer.
01:24:26.000 I'm gonna give it a shot.
01:24:27.000 Right now, Americans going crazy.
01:24:29.000 What the fuck is Joe Rogan doing?
01:24:30.000 All this goddamn bullshit.
01:24:33.000 Black Lives Matter.
01:24:34.000 All of a sudden, he's fucking following soccer.
01:24:37.000 Soccer!
01:24:38.000 Don't worry.
01:24:39.000 There's Black Lives Matter in soccer, too.
01:24:41.000 Some of these countries are racist and shit.
01:24:43.000 I'm sure.
01:24:44.000 They monkey chants to the black players.
01:24:47.000 No.
01:24:47.000 Monkey chants?
01:24:48.000 Yeah.
01:24:48.000 There's a lot of fascists.
01:24:50.000 What do they do when they broadcast that shit?
01:24:52.000 Do they bring it up?
01:24:53.000 They'll bring it up and the ref will stop the game.
01:24:56.000 Wow.
01:24:57.000 Or sometimes the players will stop the game.
01:24:58.000 They'll get those people out.
01:25:00.000 Or they'll ban that team.
01:25:02.000 And the next time, they have to play a real game.
01:25:04.000 Imagine the Lakers playing San Antonio Spurs in an empty stadium because there was racist chants the last time the game was played by the Lakers.
01:25:13.000 So they just say, you have a blackout game where none of the fans can come as punishment.
01:25:18.000 They do shit like that.
01:25:19.000 Ooh, I like that.
01:25:21.000 I like that idea.
01:25:22.000 Blackout game.
01:25:23.000 Yeah.
01:25:24.000 But then people are like, yeah, I made him black out the game.
01:25:27.000 I yelled out monkey shit.
01:25:30.000 Everybody doesn't learn.
01:25:32.000 No, there's a lot of people that just want to fucking flip over the board.
01:25:35.000 They don't want to actually play the game.
01:25:37.000 They want to flip over the board.
01:25:38.000 Or get some type of attention from it.
01:25:40.000 Of course.
01:25:41.000 From liking it, yeah.
01:25:41.000 Well, it's like we were talking about before with people don't feel like we're all the same.
01:25:46.000 They feel like those people over there playing that game.
01:25:49.000 Those are just people, man.
01:25:51.000 It's their dream to do this, and they figured out how to do it.
01:25:54.000 You can't be angry at them.
01:25:56.000 You should be inspired.
01:25:57.000 It doesn't have anything to do with you.
01:26:00.000 Don't be a fucking asshole.
01:26:02.000 But people also get so attached to one team versus the other.
01:26:06.000 That's another giant problem.
01:26:08.000 I like sports because it brings people together.
01:26:10.000 But then at that point, it also separates people too much.
01:26:13.000 Oh, yeah.
01:26:14.000 There's riots regularly at games, right?
01:26:17.000 I mean, if you looked at all the games that are played between teams all over the world.
01:26:22.000 They have respect now.
01:26:23.000 They fight in the town.
01:26:24.000 Yeah.
01:26:25.000 Outside the stadium.
01:26:27.000 And they throw bottles and shit from the bars and all that shit or in the town fountain.
01:26:31.000 They fight over teams.
01:26:33.000 That's so fucking dumb.
01:26:35.000 It's dumb.
01:26:36.000 It's dumb, man.
01:26:36.000 It's hard to believe that that's like a common occurrence with football, with soccer, with baseball.
01:26:42.000 Right.
01:26:42.000 There's always like fights in the parking lots with the Lakers.
01:26:45.000 I heard some terrible story about some guy who was wearing the wrong basketball team shirt.
01:26:50.000 And he's with his son.
01:26:51.000 And these guys at the Lakers games beat the fuck out of him.
01:26:54.000 KO'd him.
01:26:55.000 Knocked him out.
01:26:56.000 His head bounced off the concrete.
01:26:58.000 He was in a coma for weeks.
01:26:59.000 He was there with his kid.
01:27:00.000 They just beat the fuck out of him because he had the wrong shirt on.
01:27:03.000 That happened to a dude at a Dodgers game like a while ago when the McCourts used to own the team.
01:27:06.000 Maybe that's what I'm talking about.
01:27:08.000 Is that what I'm talking about?
01:27:09.000 Probably.
01:27:10.000 We're a Raiders thing too.
01:27:12.000 Raiders fans might knock you out too.
01:27:15.000 Why are Raider fans cunts?
01:27:16.000 Like why is that a thing?
01:27:17.000 Because everybody was worried about if the Raiders came to Los Angeles that we would have a bunch of cunts at the game.
01:27:22.000 That was a big issue.
01:27:23.000 It's just been their culture and everybody just identified with it and accepted and said this is who we are.
01:27:28.000 Is it because the rappers started taking on Raider hats and started wearing Raider hats in the 80s?
01:27:32.000 Is that what brought it around?
01:27:34.000 Nah, they were like that from, I don't know, like, it's like there's some teams in Italy that the fans are just fascists.
01:27:46.000 And then they, that's some of the culture.
01:27:50.000 It's hard to tell, but the Raiders seem like they've been through, they've gone through...
01:27:54.000 All the routes to have that type of fan base.
01:27:57.000 Right.
01:27:57.000 You know what I mean?
01:27:57.000 From coming up in Oakland, so even when they moved to LA and rappers started joining them, and then now they're back in Oakland.
01:28:05.000 It's like, I don't know, it's just to have the right temperature for ignorance amongst some of their fans.
01:28:13.000 I think there's something going on with people, too, where we want to be united by a common cause, even if that common cause is terrible.
01:28:20.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:28:21.000 I think that's one of the things that's going on with Trump.
01:28:24.000 When I see some of these people that are Trump supporters, I'm like, are you really?
01:28:28.000 Or are you just in a cunt gang?
01:28:30.000 Because it seems like a lot of them are in a cunt gang.
01:28:33.000 They're wearing sunglasses, they're being dicks, they're honking at these people that have Bernie Sanders signs.
01:28:39.000 Have you seen this?
01:28:40.000 I forget what city it was in, where Bernie Sanders wound up winning.
01:28:45.000 Trump was but was a big one that he won recently was Indiana Indiana so he's driving by and these Mexican Americans are on one side of the road and they're fucking screaming at this guy who's in a Donald Trump supporting truck and they're screaming shit and hurling you know insults back and forth at each other and I'm watching this I'm going what what are we seeing here like we see in gangs form because it seems like They're not really talking about Trump's policies.
01:29:11.000 They're not talking about his credentials.
01:29:14.000 They're not talking about his ability to lead and the way he carries himself.
01:29:18.000 It's almost like he's their guy.
01:29:20.000 Like, they decide, this is my guy.
01:29:22.000 And they don't want to change their mind.
01:29:24.000 Yeah, this is the guy for douchebags.
01:29:25.000 And then, you know, it's discerning to people.
01:29:29.000 It's concerning.
01:29:30.000 Because it makes you think, like...
01:29:32.000 There's so many of us, so many of us, that when something can unite us, even if it can unite us in a bad way, like the fucking Heaven's Gate cult where they all cut their dicks off and fucking wear purple sneakers on.
01:29:43.000 A lot of them did.
01:29:44.000 They got castrated themselves.
01:29:46.000 Oh shit, I didn't know that part.
01:29:48.000 Yeah, it was part of what that guy wanted people to do, and he was gay.
01:29:51.000 He didn't like being gay, and he was trying to free himself from his sexuality, but at least one or two of his other big people in that group also castrated themselves.
01:30:00.000 They couldn't just do the thumb like the Yakuza does?
01:30:04.000 What's wrong with them?
01:30:04.000 I think they do pinkies, right?
01:30:06.000 They do a joint at a time.
01:30:08.000 Whenever you fuck up, it's a joint at a time.
01:30:11.000 Do you remember that Trump painting I showed you a few weeks ago?
01:30:15.000 Someone painted him with a small dick?
01:30:16.000 The girl who painted it got attacked by some Trump supporters and, like, they punched her in the face and yelled Trump 2016 and ran off.
01:30:22.000 They punched her in the face?
01:30:23.000 That's what she's claiming.
01:30:24.000 I mean, I don't know if it was on tape or anything, but...
01:30:26.000 Well, you don't...
01:30:27.000 Oh, shit.
01:30:29.000 Oh, my God.
01:30:30.000 It happened here in L.A. They found her where she lived based off of some Facebook information and found her when she came outside.
01:30:37.000 Jesus Christ.
01:30:38.000 That's what she's claiming, though, too.
01:30:39.000 I mean, it could be...
01:30:40.000 It might not be true, but I don't know.
01:30:42.000 I don't want to say it, but it probably is, but...
01:30:43.000 It's hard to tell, and it's unfortunate that you even have to say that, but she does have tattoos on her face.
01:30:51.000 You know?
01:30:52.000 I mean, who knows?
01:30:55.000 I would like to believe, I would be more happy if she made it up, but ultimately, you gotta kind of have to believe someone like that.
01:31:03.000 That's sad, because that was a cool painting.
01:31:05.000 They shouldn't be so angry.
01:31:07.000 Why would they be so angry?
01:31:08.000 If Trump was cool, he'd buy that shit.
01:31:10.000 You know, like your Mormon joke?
01:31:12.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:31:13.000 Yeah.
01:31:14.000 Did you see the recent thing that he has on his Twitter?
01:31:17.000 I retweeted it yesterday.
01:31:19.000 I was like, this taco bowl.
01:31:20.000 Yeah, I saw that.
01:31:21.000 I love Mexicans.
01:31:22.000 I know, Hispanics.
01:31:23.000 Hispanics, yeah.
01:31:24.000 He's out of his fucking mind.
01:31:25.000 Like, this is madness.
01:31:26.000 He doesn't care.
01:31:27.000 He's flaunting it.
01:31:28.000 It's almost like he's reaching out and tuning into the frequency of those kind of guys.
01:31:35.000 And they're out there.
01:31:38.000 The thing is, I'm not opposed to someone like him trying it out.
01:31:42.000 Happy Cinco de Mayo.
01:31:44.000 Best Taco Bowls are made in Trump Tower Grill.
01:31:46.000 I love Hispanics.
01:31:48.000 Like, what the fuck?
01:31:50.000 I love Hispanics.
01:31:52.000 And he's got that evil, old school, the man look.
01:31:56.000 And someone pointed out, if you click on the picture itself, that there's a photo of his ex-wife Marla Maples in a bikini in the lower corner of a magazine he's eating his fucking lunch on.
01:32:08.000 Like, I wonder if he just eats, like...
01:32:11.000 He has the noose clippings of his victims.
01:32:15.000 And he piles it on his desk and that's how he eats.
01:32:17.000 Why else would he be eating on top of a pile of papers?
01:32:20.000 Those are trophies.
01:32:22.000 Like he's a trophy hunter.
01:32:23.000 Instead of, it's probably all people he's burned in business deals and fucked over and smashed in competition.
01:32:32.000 Well, it's like his favorite stories of people he's crushed.
01:32:35.000 Crush your enemies, have them driven before you, and hear the laminations of the women.
01:32:40.000 That's what he's doing.
01:32:41.000 He's eating dinner on a pile of skulls.
01:32:45.000 They're just print.
01:32:47.000 With his bent thumbs up.
01:32:48.000 With his fucking American lapel pin, American flag lapel pin.
01:32:53.000 It's kind of hilarious.
01:32:54.000 I'm so torn.
01:32:55.000 Because as a person who thinks that the system that we have is so fucking absurd and it needs to change, this is one of the best ways to get it to change.
01:33:03.000 Yeah, this is proof that you're right about that.
01:33:06.000 Well, it just shows you.
01:33:07.000 You can't have a popularity contest to run the government.
01:33:10.000 It should be more than that.
01:33:12.000 It shouldn't be this easy.
01:33:14.000 And it shouldn't be an electoral college, and delegates shouldn't be able to decide who they're going to vote for despite what the state votes for.
01:33:21.000 They shouldn't be superdelegates.
01:33:23.000 All this is craziness.
01:33:24.000 We have an antiquated, nonsensical system that was developed back when people wrote with feathers.
01:33:30.000 Well, you have to really fucking think about that.
01:33:32.000 And for whatever dumbass reason, we continue to use the same thing.
01:33:36.000 And anytime anybody talks about reforming it or changing it or updating it or coming out with new models, everybody freaks the fuck out.
01:33:43.000 Like it's some sacred fucking scroll that Jesus wrote.
01:33:46.000 We found a clay pot.
01:33:48.000 We've updated everything.
01:33:48.000 Why can't we update this?
01:33:50.000 It's stupid as fuck!
01:33:52.000 And the only reason why it's in place at all, like this electoral college and representative government, is because you couldn't talk directly to the leaders.
01:33:58.000 You couldn't talk directly to the government.
01:34:00.000 It was too hard.
01:34:01.000 But we have all these new tools in place and the idea that we're not using them.
01:34:05.000 Like, we're not using the internet, we're not using social media, we're not using our instantaneous ability to communicate with each other to find out what we actually want as a collective group.
01:34:15.000 The fact that that's...
01:34:17.000 And also, we should agree.
01:34:19.000 There should be like parameters where things can't get passed.
01:34:23.000 There should be like parameters where we all agree.
01:34:25.000 Okay, we cannot set aside any rules or create any laws that intentionally victimize certain segments of the population.
01:34:34.000 We all agree on that.
01:34:35.000 Yeah.
01:34:35.000 Yeah, like we make a new constitution type thing.
01:34:38.000 We all agree on that.
01:34:39.000 Everyone agrees on that.
01:34:39.000 Right, right.
01:34:40.000 So when anything comes up, whether it's about gay marriage or whether it's about fucking whatever it is, you look at that and you go, okay, is this a law that would victimize intentionally certain aspects of our population?
01:34:53.000 And if so, we can't do it, especially if they're not doing anything to anybody else.
01:34:57.000 We should have rules like that.
01:34:58.000 We could update and make a real simple new constitution that would be way better.
01:35:03.000 And we'd keep most of this shit in the original.
01:35:05.000 Most of the ideas are freedom of speech, but update it to represent what we're dealing with today.
01:35:12.000 Because what free speech is today is very different than standing on a box and yelling into a courtyard without a microphone.
01:35:20.000 Because that's what people were doing.
01:35:21.000 Writing something down and not being worried about being killed for it.
01:35:24.000 We all agree on that kind of stuff.
01:35:26.000 But we should figure out, like, how many of these laws are good?
01:35:31.000 How many of these laws make any fucking sense?
01:35:33.000 How many of these laws we just have?
01:35:35.000 Because they've been around forever and nobody examines them.
01:35:38.000 You just have some really smart people making some really bad laws on purpose.
01:35:43.000 Like, when you're talking about laws that doesn't affect a certain segment, not making laws that affect a certain segment of society, like the ones that we have now that exist that does hurt segments of society were done on purpose, but they're just done so slickly.
01:36:00.000 It's just tough to get...
01:36:05.000 There's just some bad people in the wrong places right now.
01:36:10.000 Yeah.
01:36:10.000 Well, there's just too much money involved in making decisions.
01:36:14.000 That's the big issue.
01:36:15.000 The big issue is there's all these gigantic groups of people with immense amounts of money, and they can gain more money by influence people's decision-making that are in judgment or that are in positions of power.
01:36:29.000 And that's our real problem.
01:36:30.000 Our real problem is these giant groups of people.
01:36:32.000 Call them whatever you want.
01:36:33.000 Call them corporations.
01:36:34.000 Call them, you know, whatever.
01:36:36.000 Call them the banks.
01:36:37.000 Call them whatever it is.
01:36:38.000 They have the ability to influence the decision-making of the people that are in power.
01:36:43.000 And whether it's through fear, intimidation, manipulation, or straight-up bribing, there's a system that's in place that's very difficult to buck.
01:36:51.000 That's why I find it intriguing if Donald Trump gets in.
01:36:55.000 I don't find it intriguing because I like what he's saying and that I like this crazy character that he's doing.
01:37:01.000 What I find intriguing is it doesn't seem to fucking matter who the president is in any way other than socially.
01:37:08.000 Like socially it seems to matter.
01:37:09.000 Like I think one of the best things about having Obama in office...
01:37:13.000 Was that he was a guy who was pretty liberal on most things, as opposed to the eight years we had to deal with scary conservative Bush and Donald Rumsfeld and John Ashcroft.
01:37:26.000 They were scary people.
01:37:28.000 John Ashcroft covered the breasts of a statue.
01:37:31.000 Was it in the White House?
01:37:33.000 No, not the White House.
01:37:34.000 Was it at the Pentagon?
01:37:35.000 No.
01:37:36.000 I forget what the statue it was, but they put a drape over the breasts of a statue that had been exposed forever.
01:37:44.000 Ashcroft was a guy who went after Tommy Chong, because Tommy Chong's son was selling bongs.
01:37:50.000 And so he went after Tommy Chong, saying that, if you don't go to jail, I'm going to put your whole family in jail.
01:37:55.000 So Tommy Chong had him wind up going.
01:37:56.000 That was all Ashcroft.
01:37:58.000 Man.
01:37:58.000 They're like Operation Nice Dreams is what they were doing.
01:38:01.000 It was a sting operation.
01:38:03.000 Justice Department covers partially nude statues because of Ashcroft.
01:38:07.000 He was a scary, scary guy.
01:38:09.000 And this is an example of the people, wrong people, in the places where they shouldn't be because they're out of control.
01:38:17.000 Well, it also heightened our suspicions of conspiracy theories and hysteria in this country because we saw really dangerous people that were running the show.
01:38:28.000 A guy like him is fucking dangerous.
01:38:30.000 A guy like Rumsfeld who pushed aspartame, that's how aspartame is legal.
01:38:34.000 It all came out of Rumsfeld.
01:38:35.000 He was one of those directly responsible for making aspartame illegal and avoiding all the information that pointed to the fact that it's probably super fucking bad for you.
01:38:44.000 It's just fucked up that we didn't do anything about it.
01:38:47.000 No.
01:38:47.000 We just, like, wrote it out.
01:38:49.000 Well, we had to.
01:38:50.000 I mean, we didn't know what we even could do then.
01:38:52.000 It would be really interesting to see what would happen if the Bush administration was in office today with the current ability to communicate about things.
01:39:01.000 Because that's where it's really crazy.
01:39:04.000 From 2000 to 2016 is a different world.
01:39:08.000 It's a different world.
01:39:09.000 And towards the end of the Bush administration became more and more preposterous, where people were like, what in the fuck is going on?
01:39:15.000 To the point where they went out stealing money.
01:39:17.000 Remember when they went out and gas prices went up to like fucking five bucks a gallon and everybody was like, what the fuck is What's going on?
01:39:22.000 It just felt like they went out stealing money.
01:39:26.000 They're just like, look, before Obama comes into office, we're just going to suck as much money out of this bitch as we can.
01:39:31.000 Let's just go hard.
01:39:33.000 You know, just ridiculous.
01:39:35.000 My question is, what is money?
01:39:36.000 Good question.
01:39:37.000 You know, what is money?
01:39:38.000 And then the money that...
01:39:41.000 We lost you in a recession.
01:39:43.000 It wasn't burnt in a fire.
01:39:45.000 It wasn't like that money went somewhere.
01:39:47.000 So where the fuck is that money that they had to get more money to replace that money?
01:39:51.000 Somebody has that money.
01:39:52.000 It's spending that money.
01:39:53.000 So it's not like it went to a vacuum and it'll never come back.
01:39:58.000 So it's just so...
01:40:01.000 They never teach you in school, so you don't know, you don't think about it, but where the fuck...
01:40:06.000 Well, it's voodoo.
01:40:07.000 It's agreed upon voodoo.
01:40:08.000 Yeah.
01:40:09.000 It's agreed upon voodoo.
01:40:10.000 I mean, that's really what it is.
01:40:11.000 We have all the same amount of stuff.
01:40:13.000 Right.
01:40:13.000 We have the same amount of minerals.
01:40:15.000 We have the same amount of raw materials.
01:40:16.000 We have the same amount of people.
01:40:18.000 We have the same amount of land.
01:40:20.000 We have all the same stuff, but somehow there's no money.
01:40:23.000 Right.
01:40:23.000 Whereas two months ago, everybody was rolling in dough.
01:40:26.000 Right.
01:40:26.000 That's a sign of someone fucking you.
01:40:28.000 Yeah.
01:40:29.000 He's like, man, I don't know what happened.
01:40:30.000 We lost all the goddamn money.
01:40:32.000 It's crazy.
01:40:32.000 It's gone.
01:40:33.000 Hey, y'all take care, and we're real sorry it worked out this way, but we gotta get going.
01:40:38.000 The recession was one of the craziest things.
01:40:40.000 There's like...
01:40:41.000 They came on the news and said, we're broke.
01:40:42.000 All the money's gone.
01:40:43.000 And everybody just started acting broke.
01:40:46.000 Everybody was just like broke and laying off people.
01:40:48.000 We're broke, y'all.
01:40:50.000 And then they said, things are getting better.
01:40:53.000 Yeah, I feel it getting better.
01:40:55.000 Feel that?
01:40:56.000 Feel that it's getting better.
01:40:57.000 I saw something that said that the 150,000 jobs were added to the economy, but unemployment stayed the same.
01:41:04.000 The same rate, but they added 150,000 jobs.
01:41:07.000 Like, what is the rate based on?
01:41:09.000 And then someone else told me that the rate is not based on people who stop looking.
01:41:13.000 The rate is only based on people who claim unemployment.
01:41:16.000 Like, there's way more unemployment than that.
01:41:18.000 It's just people aren't looking.
01:41:22.000 Meanwhile, easiest time to live ever.
01:41:25.000 Everybody bitching about shit.
01:41:26.000 You could take some dude from the Depression and put him in America today and be like, what the fuck are you complaining about?
01:41:33.000 No soup lines, no one starving.
01:41:35.000 Look how big everybody is.
01:41:36.000 They would be like, everybody in the Depression days, they weighed like 110 pounds.
01:41:40.000 It's hilarious.
01:41:40.000 Dudes were tiny.
01:41:42.000 They'd be like seeing all these giant people with McDonald's fucking falling out of their pockets.
01:41:45.000 Look at all the food these fucking people have.
01:41:47.000 All you gotta do is wait by a garbage can.
01:41:49.000 Yeah.
01:41:49.000 Poor people are fat today.
01:41:51.000 You know how crazy that is?
01:41:54.000 That's true, right?
01:41:55.000 Yeah, it's true.
01:41:56.000 I mean, back then, you were starving.
01:41:58.000 You were terrified.
01:41:59.000 Yeah.
01:42:00.000 People legitimately were worried about not having something to eat.
01:42:04.000 Right.
01:42:05.000 I read this book about this guy named Danny McGurdy.
01:42:08.000 Danny McGurdy is like a famous Depression-era pool hustler who traveled across the country during like the darkest days of the Depression and would hustle from town to town and gamble with guys and make money, like barely get by.
01:42:23.000 But was an alcoholic and just wrote a bunch of crazy stories about all his times.
01:42:29.000 But there was times where he's begging people for food.
01:42:32.000 Like he was starving.
01:42:34.000 He just showed up at someone's house and was begging him for food.
01:42:36.000 And the guy comes out and gives him a bowl of sausages and shit.
01:42:39.000 Yeah.
01:42:40.000 You realize there were times in this country, and by the way, back then, no one was telling them everything was going to be okay.
01:42:46.000 There was no Oprah on TV. There was no positive thinking.
01:42:49.000 There was no mind coaches on late night infomercials.
01:42:53.000 I'm going to give you the tools to achieve your greatness!
01:42:57.000 It was none of that.
01:42:58.000 They were just almost animalistic.
01:43:00.000 Traveling around in boxcars.
01:43:02.000 And this book was really intense, man, because this guy was talking kind of with shame about how he had broken down a couple of times and was just asking people for food.
01:43:13.000 He goes, I didn't have any other options.
01:43:15.000 I had to beg people for food.
01:43:17.000 And you realize, yeah, that's a different time than today.
01:43:20.000 Right.
01:43:21.000 Because people are just out there doing that.
01:43:22.000 Well, you know, there's way more charity today than ever before.
01:43:27.000 But I think also we understand that a lot of the people that we're seeing that are out on the street corners and begging, they have mental problems.
01:43:34.000 Yeah.
01:43:34.000 Yeah.
01:43:35.000 I mean, I'm sure they did back then, too.
01:43:37.000 But I think back then, there were probably more people who were legitimately...
01:43:42.000 Broke.
01:43:43.000 Yeah.
01:43:44.000 And didn't have the information.
01:43:46.000 Didn't understand.
01:43:47.000 Like, where are all the jobs?
01:43:49.000 What's the economy?
01:43:50.000 You can't Google it.
01:43:52.000 So if you were a 35-year-old man who was essentially illiterate, And you were a laborer your whole life.
01:43:58.000 And then all of a sudden the jobs dried up.
01:43:59.000 You had no grasp of why or how to fix it or who was going to change it.
01:44:04.000 So any politician who stood up and started yelling things about immigrants or about...
01:44:09.000 I mean, that's essentially what happened to Hitler.
01:44:10.000 Hitler rose to power because Germany was a bad economic place.
01:44:15.000 And this guy came along and said, these motherfuckers are ruining it for us.
01:44:19.000 And everybody was like, Sieg!
01:44:20.000 Hi!
01:44:21.000 Yeah, they all just jumped on.
01:44:23.000 Yeah.
01:44:24.000 He was so charismatic, too.
01:44:25.000 That's another scary thing about a guy that's really charismatic, that can unite people for a cause, even if it's a bad one.
01:44:32.000 You know what's crazy about, I went to a, what do they call it, like an opera?
01:44:37.000 What's the thing when they have the conductor?
01:44:39.000 Yeah, it's an opera, right?
01:44:40.000 It's an opera.
01:44:40.000 Music, symphony?
01:44:41.000 Yeah, symphony.
01:44:43.000 The thing when they have a conductor.
01:44:44.000 Well, the opera's when they sing.
01:44:46.000 Yeah, I'm hotboxed.
01:44:48.000 Orchestra?
01:44:48.000 Yeah, I'm hotboxed.
01:44:51.000 I don't even know if I'm saying that right.
01:44:53.000 Hot boxing's real.
01:44:54.000 Hot boxing is real, y'all.
01:44:55.000 Because a lot of people don't believe.
01:44:56.000 And I was watching the conductor, and there's a lot of Jewish people there.
01:45:02.000 And you know, the conductor's doing this shit.
01:45:04.000 And if you turn off the music, it looks like you're watching Hitler.
01:45:09.000 Really?
01:45:10.000 Yeah, because the conductor has the same motions as Hitler.
01:45:16.000 You know, At an opera, like the way he's directing a band.
01:45:20.000 Someone should make a split screen.
01:45:21.000 Yeah.
01:45:22.000 Yeah, Hitler was really animated, right?
01:45:24.000 Yeah, he's really animated and moving his arms.
01:45:28.000 Isn't it interesting, when you stop and think about that, is that we don't like that from a president.
01:45:33.000 We don't like it.
01:45:34.000 And it's one of the things that sank Howard Dean.
01:45:37.000 Said Howard Dean got caught screaming.
01:45:39.000 Remember that?
01:45:40.000 We're going to the White House!
01:45:43.000 And it was over.
01:45:43.000 And it was over.
01:45:44.000 It was over.
01:45:45.000 It was like a bad thing.
01:45:46.000 Yeah, we don't want anyone yelling.
01:45:48.000 We don't want anyone...
01:45:53.000 When you see Hitler in those speeches, that fucking dynamic way of talking, that scares the shit out of everybody today.
01:45:59.000 That was good for back then.
01:46:01.000 You could reach people back then because he's like expressing the anger that everybody was feeling.
01:46:06.000 Well, in a way, that's where people have a legitimate beef with how Trump is behaving.
01:46:11.000 Because although it might be effective...
01:46:14.000 And getting people to pay attention to him, it's very dangerous in the doors it opens up.
01:46:18.000 As far as getting people to unite.
01:46:20.000 Like the shitty said, I was on the phone with the President of Mexico!
01:46:24.000 And he said, who you think is going to pay for that wall?
01:46:27.000 And I said, you're going to pay for it.
01:46:28.000 We're not going to pay for it.
01:46:30.000 Oh, yes, you are.
01:46:31.000 And the fence just got 10 feet taller.
01:46:33.000 And the whole audience cheers.
01:46:35.000 I'm paraphrasing if I fucked up his speech.
01:46:38.000 But the idea that he would yell that out, the fence just got taller.
01:46:43.000 So you're going to make a fence taller than it needs to be so that you spite this person?
01:46:49.000 Is this a normal behavior pattern for a leader of the greatest army the world has ever known?
01:46:55.000 Right.
01:46:55.000 That seems crazy.
01:46:56.000 Plus, especially in a world where Mexicans who smuggle stuff across the border build tunnels.
01:47:02.000 Yeah.
01:47:03.000 Including they smuggle people through on the tunnels.
01:47:07.000 So good luck building your wall.
01:47:08.000 Yeah.
01:47:08.000 Your wall will never affect anything.
01:47:10.000 Yeah, they don't go over.
01:47:12.000 They don't go over.
01:47:13.000 They have all these secret tunnels, like every documentary or even Sicaro.
01:47:20.000 It's just all tunnels.
01:47:22.000 Yeah.
01:47:22.000 Apparently that's real too.
01:47:23.000 Yeah.
01:47:24.000 And your president is like talking about building a wall.
01:47:26.000 It sounds dumb as shit.
01:47:28.000 Yeah.
01:47:29.000 Your president to be.
01:47:30.000 How are you going to find all those tunnels?
01:47:32.000 Do you know how much square miles you're dealing with and how deep they go in?
01:47:36.000 Especially when you look at the guys who got out El Chapo.
01:47:39.000 They went a mile in.
01:47:41.000 A mile.
01:47:43.000 Underground.
01:47:43.000 For a mile.
01:47:44.000 Everything is underground.
01:47:45.000 Everything is underground.
01:47:46.000 The construction noise that you're making to build a wall helps them to dig tunnels at the same time.
01:47:54.000 You're smothering the sound.
01:47:56.000 It's so stupid.
01:47:58.000 They're like the best tunnel builders ever.
01:48:00.000 Yeah.
01:48:01.000 If you really think about it.
01:48:03.000 The best tunnel builders in the game.
01:48:04.000 Who's built more secret tunnels than Mexican drug dealers?
01:48:07.000 Fucking nobody, man.
01:48:08.000 Is this El Chapo's tunnel?
01:48:09.000 I was looking at that, but I just typed in just generic tunnel.
01:48:12.000 There's a lot of them.
01:48:13.000 Drug tunnels?
01:48:14.000 Yeah.
01:48:14.000 There's a ton of them, man.
01:48:15.000 They just keep digging them.
01:48:17.000 But it's so fascinating that there's this border.
01:48:21.000 We have this line.
01:48:22.000 And if you could dig a hole and pop out on the other side, you could sell drugs.
01:48:28.000 Pop out on the other side.
01:48:30.000 It's hilarious.
01:48:31.000 But it's so weird.
01:48:32.000 Like, what a weird...
01:48:33.000 Fucking thing that we've done.
01:48:35.000 We've made lines on the ground of the earth that you can't cross.
01:48:39.000 And there's no difference between the people on either side, other than the fact that they speak different languages.
01:48:45.000 But they're just people, and there's a lot of each people on the other side.
01:48:48.000 My fucking parents live in Mexico, man.
01:48:50.000 A lot of Mexicans live in America.
01:48:54.000 A lot of my friends are from Mexico.
01:48:56.000 I know a lot of people from Mexico.
01:48:57.000 A lot.
01:48:58.000 I probably know 20 or 30 people who were born in Mexico.
01:49:02.000 So we integrated, right?
01:49:03.000 Obviously, there's no difference between us other than culture and language, right?
01:49:09.000 But we still have this crazy line like you can't come over and you guys are fucked you're listen listen listen listen You were born into a worse system than us.
01:49:17.000 We can't lay over here, right?
01:49:18.000 I know you want to get better But fuck off fuck you get no if you get better over on this side if you're born in Phoenix Oh, you missed it by a mile See if you landed in Phoenix if you came out of your mother's pussy in Phoenix your gold Dude, didn't you get fucking Medicare and all that good shit?
01:49:31.000 You're in the Obamacare, but if you're born a mile the other way fucksville.
01:49:36.000 Yeah, what?
01:49:38.000 That's so crazy!
01:49:39.000 That doesn't make...
01:49:41.000 Like, logically, I understand there's a limited amount of resources.
01:49:44.000 I understand there's got to be some pragmatic decisions.
01:49:46.000 It's very unfortunate.
01:49:47.000 But what we really have to do is help Mexico get back on their feet.
01:49:50.000 Exactly.
01:49:52.000 But really, what it should be is there should be no Mexico.
01:49:55.000 There should be no United States.
01:49:57.000 There should be no Canada.
01:49:58.000 There should be the planet Earth.
01:49:59.000 Right.
01:49:59.000 That's really what it should be.
01:50:01.000 Right, right.
01:50:01.000 These ideas are fucking stupid.
01:50:03.000 They're like soccer clubs.
01:50:05.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.
01:50:06.000 Or like little soccer clubs.
01:50:07.000 Well, those things make sense.
01:50:08.000 Right.
01:50:09.000 They make more sense.
01:50:10.000 No, but I'm a thousand percent with you.
01:50:13.000 There's enough resources in the world, if everybody shares in white, right, for everything to be fine.
01:50:19.000 Well, both you and I are a direct result of immigration.
01:50:22.000 Right.
01:50:23.000 My parents were the first generation.
01:50:25.000 They came from, or they were born...
01:50:28.000 In America, but their parents, my grandparents, is that how it works?
01:50:31.000 I'm third generation, right?
01:50:32.000 Because my parents were second generation, because my grandparents were first generation Americans when they moved to America.
01:50:38.000 They weren't born in America.
01:50:39.000 How's that work?
01:50:41.000 The first one born here is the first generation.
01:50:43.000 First generation.
01:50:44.000 So I'm second generation.
01:50:45.000 So just two generations ago, You know, all of my family came from Italy and Ireland.
01:50:51.000 All of them.
01:50:52.000 Everyone.
01:50:53.000 My grandfather on my father's side came from Ireland.
01:50:56.000 My father or my grandmother on my father's side came from Italy.
01:51:00.000 My grandmother and my grandfather on my mother's side came from Italy.
01:51:02.000 Everybody came from another country all during the same time period.
01:51:05.000 So they were all like immigrants.
01:51:07.000 They came over here.
01:51:08.000 And this is why the United States is so interesting, because there's so many different kinds of people here.
01:51:14.000 Right.
01:51:14.000 But there's just too many of us, and it's too awesome.
01:51:17.000 This experiment was too badass.
01:51:21.000 So hilarious.
01:51:23.000 In Mexico, I don't know what happened in Mexico.
01:51:24.000 I don't know what went wrong.
01:51:25.000 They got cut off.
01:51:26.000 Is that what it has?
01:51:27.000 I know.
01:51:28.000 People don't want to share, man.
01:51:29.000 People just want mine.
01:51:30.000 Yeah.
01:51:31.000 Mine.
01:51:31.000 All mine.
01:51:32.000 I wonder how much of what Mexico is right now is a direct result of the Spanish invasions.
01:51:39.000 Like I wonder when something happens like during like the Aztec days and there's some crazy takeover and the Spanish language gets introduced to Central America and even North America.
01:51:52.000 I mean most of California, what we call California, used to be Mexico.
01:51:56.000 So I wonder, like, what impact that had because when you find out the atrocities that were committed with the Aztecs and the invaders and the introduction of horsebacks, I mean, people riding horseback,
01:52:12.000 that was all during Cortez, right?
01:52:15.000 And the people before him was all the Europeans that had brought over horses.
01:52:20.000 Just think about all that chaos that happened there.
01:52:23.000 They changed the language of the country.
01:52:24.000 I mean...
01:52:25.000 That's a lot.
01:52:26.000 That's big.
01:52:27.000 That's major.
01:52:27.000 It's insane.
01:52:28.000 Mexico was essentially Native Americans.
01:52:30.000 Right.
01:52:31.000 That's why the Mayans, they really resemble a lot of Native Americans, what we think of as Native Americans.
01:52:37.000 Mm-hmm.
01:52:37.000 When you look at, there's like a bunch of different styles of Mexican, like their appearance.
01:52:42.000 Right.
01:52:43.000 You've got like your Canelo Alvarez.
01:52:44.000 You've got like, who's real, he's an outlier.
01:52:47.000 He's a rare one.
01:52:47.000 But you've got like Oscar de la Hoya, who's that like handsome Spaniard version of Mexico.
01:52:52.000 Right?
01:52:53.000 Right.
01:52:53.000 And then you've got like real brown looking dudes that look like Native Americans.
01:52:59.000 Yeah.
01:52:59.000 That are also Mexican.
01:53:01.000 That are really dark.
01:53:03.000 And you go, well, that guy looks like an American Indian.
01:53:06.000 What we consider a Native American.
01:53:07.000 Because that's what it is.
01:53:09.000 They were introduced.
01:53:11.000 The Spanish language and all these different people from Europe interbred with all the people that are here and they created what is Mexico.
01:53:20.000 That's an hilarious picture because it's like, who drew that?
01:53:23.000 They didn't even look like that.
01:53:25.000 Those are hot Instagram chicks.
01:53:30.000 Who drew that version of that?
01:53:32.000 Some of them are supposed to be men.
01:53:34.000 Oh, for real?
01:53:35.000 Yeah, they're just covering their dicks.
01:53:36.000 Some of them are supposed to be men.
01:53:38.000 See, that one's got his panties on.
01:53:39.000 So they had transgender.
01:53:41.000 What's going on in this photo?
01:53:43.000 Well, I think these people, like Native Americans, used to keep their hair long.
01:53:47.000 I mean, that's what it's depicting.
01:53:49.000 You know, when you think of Native Americans, and you think of like cowboys versus Indians, they all have long hair, right?
01:53:54.000 Right, right.
01:53:54.000 Well, I think that that's what these people were encountering back then.
01:53:59.000 And, I mean, it was a fucking genocide, man.
01:54:02.000 I mean, it was essentially just a slaughter fest.
01:54:05.000 They killed so many fucking people.
01:54:07.000 They stole gold.
01:54:08.000 They came over on horseback.
01:54:10.000 They were considered gods.
01:54:11.000 Nobody knew what it was to ride a horse.
01:54:14.000 Imagine a guy comes over for the first time.
01:54:16.000 They land in a boat.
01:54:18.000 They get off the boat and they have horses and swords and they start fucking chopping everybody up.
01:54:22.000 Do you think that was...
01:54:23.000 They probably had horses, right?
01:54:25.000 And had seen horses or maybe...
01:54:26.000 No!
01:54:27.000 No, they didn't.
01:54:28.000 They did not have horses.
01:54:29.000 Horses were introduced...
01:54:30.000 Horses were introduced to North America by the Europeans.
01:54:33.000 There was horses in North America millions of years ago, but they went extinct.
01:54:40.000 I'm pretty sure.
01:54:41.000 I'm almost positive of this.
01:54:42.000 There was a type of horse that lived, like, in the Pleistocene or something like that, and they went extinct.
01:54:49.000 Yeah, find that out.
01:54:51.000 That's interesting.
01:54:52.000 When were horses first introduced to North America?
01:54:55.000 But horses being wild, like wild horses, Is a relatively recent phenomenon, like over the last few hundred years in North America.
01:55:04.000 It came with Columbus in 1493. There you go.
01:55:07.000 His second voyage to America, Spanish horses representing Cabalos were brought back to North America, first in the Virgin Islands, and in 1519, they were reintroduced on the continent.
01:55:23.000 In modern-day Mexico, from where they radiated through the American Great Plains, Yeah, I see, man.
01:55:29.000 I feel bad for the horses just being on a boat that long.
01:55:33.000 Yeah, no shit, right?
01:55:34.000 I wonder how many of them survived.
01:55:35.000 Yeah, it's a long-ass trip.
01:55:36.000 I wonder how they did that, because that was months and months at sea.
01:55:39.000 You had to have the right amount of food, people getting scurvy and shit.
01:55:43.000 I bet it's probably easier to bring hay than it is to bring anything.
01:55:46.000 Shit.
01:55:47.000 You know, when you think about it.
01:55:48.000 Hay, you can stack it up nice and dense.
01:55:50.000 Yeah.
01:55:51.000 But horses eat a lot of fucking hay.
01:55:52.000 Yeah, and you have to clean up after them and they're on a boat restricted.
01:55:55.000 Shit all over the place.
01:55:56.000 That makes that boat trip even worse than I imagined it in the first place.
01:56:00.000 Yeah, because then- With horses on board.
01:56:01.000 They're going to get off the boat and they haven't run or walked at all in months.
01:56:06.000 Their legs are going to be all fucked up.
01:56:07.000 Yeah.
01:56:08.000 I was just thinking, I was looking for a, not a picture, but a representation of it, because in Columbus, where I'm from, they have a replica of the Santa Maria, which is one of those boats.
01:56:16.000 It's not very big at all.
01:56:18.000 Maybe 20 or 30 people could comfortably be on it for a long period of time, so I don't know where the hell you would put animals to.
01:56:26.000 Where is it?
01:56:27.000 It's on the river.
01:56:28.000 Whoa.
01:56:28.000 Like, right in downtown Columbus.
01:56:30.000 How big is it?
01:56:31.000 Like, if you had to guess.
01:56:31.000 It's pretty big.
01:56:33.000 How many feet long?
01:56:34.000 60, 50, 60. That's it?
01:56:37.000 I'm trying to guess in my head.
01:56:38.000 That's 20 yards.
01:56:39.000 That's it?
01:56:39.000 It's not that big.
01:56:40.000 I'll pull the picture of it.
01:56:41.000 That's insane.
01:56:42.000 That's 20 yards.
01:56:43.000 That's crazy.
01:56:44.000 That's like what you shoot when you're practicing with a bow to tune it in before you start backing up.
01:56:49.000 Those little things change the world so much.
01:56:53.000 The scale of those things to how much they change the world is fucking crazy.
01:56:58.000 That's nothing.
01:56:59.000 How big do you think that is?
01:57:01.000 That's nothing.
01:57:01.000 That's small as fuck, dude.
01:57:04.000 That's so interesting, Ian.
01:57:05.000 The way you just explained that.
01:57:06.000 That's like a nuclear bomb.
01:57:08.000 Three of those.
01:57:09.000 Three of those.
01:57:09.000 Fucking A, man.
01:57:11.000 Boy, you just nailed it.
01:57:13.000 You just nailed it.
01:57:15.000 Those things changed the world.
01:57:17.000 Three of those fucking things.
01:57:18.000 I mean, changed everything.
01:57:19.000 Those three were like the seed that planted North America.
01:57:23.000 They came over here and explosion.
01:57:26.000 And it became the Empire State Building and the fucking Seattle Tower.
01:57:31.000 What's that tower?
01:57:34.000 Yeah, Space Needle.
01:57:35.000 Brought lots of murder, diseases.
01:57:38.000 Lots of murder, lots of diseases.
01:57:39.000 Genocide, rape.
01:57:40.000 Yeah, all sorts of groovy shit.
01:57:42.000 It's crazy.
01:57:43.000 It's crazy when you think that...
01:57:44.000 And iPhones.
01:57:45.000 Well, eventually.
01:57:46.000 Eventually turns into iPhones.
01:57:47.000 Yeah.
01:57:47.000 I wonder if iPhones would have existed if we just stayed in Europe.
01:57:50.000 Probably not.
01:57:51.000 See, that's one of the things that I think is really important about, like, having an asshole as a president for a brief respite, when we have a chance to rethink this whole thing, is I think...
01:58:02.000 I think we have to get outraged before things change, and we have to realize that the system is just fucking retarded.
01:58:07.000 Maybe he does, too.
01:58:09.000 Maybe, look, let's give him the benefit of the doubt, right?
01:58:12.000 You're talking about a guy who's obviously incredibly wealthy and obviously incredibly successful.
01:58:16.000 Maybe he is sick of it all himself.
01:58:19.000 Maybe he is one of the guys who's actually contributed.
01:58:22.000 I mean, look, that fucking guy paid Hillary to come to his wedding, okay?
01:58:26.000 Hundreds of thousands of dollars.
01:58:28.000 It's all it took, and she showed up.
01:58:29.000 I mean, this is a guy that's been deep, deep, deep in the system, handing out money to these motherfuckers.
01:58:34.000 And then finally he went, fuck you.
01:58:36.000 He went, fuck you.
01:58:37.000 I'm going to run this thing.
01:58:39.000 And they're like, there's no way.
01:58:40.000 There's no way, Donald Trump, we've looked at the numbers.
01:58:43.000 Impossible.
01:58:44.000 Everybody else has dropped out.
01:58:45.000 They've all given up.
01:58:46.000 I mean, Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton are neck and neck, right?
01:58:49.000 Except for in Delegates, where she's quite a bit above him.
01:58:52.000 But she still doesn't have enough to win.
01:58:54.000 Like, it's close enough to, it's like, it's weird.
01:58:57.000 It's like weirdly close, where you have to look at it and people, Bernie doesn't stand a chance.
01:59:03.000 Mathematically, he's already eliminated.
01:59:05.000 But then people say, well, what if Hillary gets indicted for one of the two criminal investigations she's currently involved with?
01:59:11.000 So he just sticks around and waits.
01:59:12.000 What if people find out about this fucking email thing that it's even worse than we thought?
01:59:16.000 What if people find out this?
01:59:17.000 What if they find out that?
01:59:18.000 What if there's some dirt?
01:59:19.000 What if there's some this?
01:59:20.000 It's fucking exhausting.
01:59:22.000 It's exhausting.
01:59:23.000 But meanwhile...
01:59:24.000 This fucking Trump guy is sitting pretty, just waiting for whoever gets most beat up by this fucking campaign on the Democratic side.
01:59:34.000 They're beating the shit out of each other.
01:59:36.000 So they're going to come through it.
01:59:38.000 Whoever's going to come through is going to be all fucked up.
01:59:40.000 It's like having an MMA tournament.
01:59:43.000 One guy wins by a quick knockout in the first round, the other guy goes through a three-round war.
01:59:48.000 Trump just ran through someone, Anderson Silva style.
01:59:52.000 And so now, like Hillary and fucking Bernie Sanders are like Mickey Ward and Arturo Gatti, just beating the shit out of each other, and we have to wait to see who emerges.
02:00:03.000 What a strange, strange, strange time.
02:00:05.000 It's crazy, man.
02:00:07.000 Like you said it, and I've been thinking it, you said it last week, I think when we was at the show about you're more afraid of Cruz than Trump.
02:00:15.000 He scares the shit out of me.
02:00:16.000 And I'm glad he's out.
02:00:17.000 Yeah, I'm glad he's out too.
02:00:18.000 He would have been the worst choice.
02:00:20.000 And Trump, I have a feeling, if he could fool people and do this just to win...
02:00:27.000 That he might actually just be doing it just to win.
02:00:30.000 That's what we hope.
02:00:31.000 And become a different person.
02:00:32.000 That's our hope, right?
02:00:33.000 That's our hope, but if he did become a different person, I wouldn't even be surprised, because it's kind of almost typical him.
02:00:39.000 Right.
02:00:39.000 You know what I mean?
02:00:40.000 Yeah, I don't know, man.
02:00:41.000 I don't have any interaction with him, but I do know that Jeff Ross worked with him on the roast, and he said he was very nice and very reasonable.
02:00:48.000 And one of the things that Jeff Ross said is, hey, when the camera turns to you and you're not laughing, it kind of looks bad.
02:00:55.000 You should just enjoy it.
02:00:57.000 Don't be upset that these guys are making fun of you.
02:00:59.000 Just laugh along.
02:01:00.000 It'll be great for you.
02:01:00.000 And he said Trump thought about it.
02:01:02.000 He goes, you know what?
02:01:02.000 You're right.
02:01:03.000 You're right.
02:01:03.000 He's not an asshole all the time.
02:01:06.000 It's a character that he's playing.
02:01:07.000 It is definitely a character.
02:01:08.000 It's like a wrestling character.
02:01:10.000 WWE style.
02:01:11.000 Exactly.
02:01:12.000 It's a WWE character.
02:01:13.000 I don't know him.
02:01:15.000 I don't buy any of this.
02:01:16.000 I don't buy Ryan Seacrest.
02:01:18.000 I don't know that guy.
02:01:19.000 I don't know Donald Trump.
02:01:21.000 I mean, I would like to get high with Ryan Seacrest and find out what's really going on in there.
02:01:24.000 I don't know.
02:01:25.000 You should tell him to come on.
02:01:26.000 What you see...
02:01:27.000 What's in his hand?
02:01:29.000 A cell phone?
02:01:30.000 Oh, he's gonna shave his hair.
02:01:32.000 Is that what it is?
02:01:32.000 A shaver?
02:01:33.000 Look at Vince McMahon.
02:01:34.000 It's hilarious.
02:01:37.000 They shaved Vince McMahon's head?
02:01:41.000 Vince McMahon's face was more fearful than somebody about to get beheaded by ISIS. Is that Bobby Lashley?
02:01:47.000 That's Bobby Lashley, right?
02:01:49.000 Bobby Lashley is fighting MMA now.
02:01:53.000 He has to fight in these weird Indian casinos so they don't test him.
02:01:58.000 Oh shit, that's hilarious.
02:02:01.000 So there's a rumor going around, Joe.
02:02:04.000 I saw something the other day that Floyd Mayweather's team has been trademarking Floyd 50 or something like that, saying that he might be coming out of retirement.
02:02:13.000 Right, I heard about this.
02:02:14.000 This rumor hit today that his potential opponent might be Conor McGregor.
02:02:20.000 Oh my god.
02:02:21.000 In a boxing match at T-Mobile Arena in Vegas.
02:02:25.000 Oh my god.
02:02:27.000 I think Conor McGregor's a very good MMA fighter.
02:02:30.000 I think if Conor McGregor and Floyd Mayweather fight in MMA, Conor McGregor will fuck him up.
02:02:37.000 He will fuck him up.
02:02:39.000 Floyd will get the shit kicked out of him.
02:02:40.000 He will kick his fucking body senseless.
02:02:43.000 He will kick his legs.
02:02:45.000 Floyd will be debunked.
02:02:46.000 Debilitated inside of one round a hundred percent and if Conor decides to take him to the ground I Guarantee you Floyd Mayweather can and Conor's no world-class wrestler.
02:02:55.000 He's no NCAA champion He's no Olympic gold medalist Guarantee you Floyd Mayweather cannot stop him from taking him to the ground and if Conor gets into the ground He's gonna mount him and cave his fucking face in or choke him or break his arm or do whatever he wants to do but in a boxing match I can't imagine a world where Floyd Mayweather doesn't fuck him up.
02:03:18.000 In a boxing match, I think Floyd Mayweather is arguably the greatest boxer of all time.
02:03:24.000 If you look at his accomplishments, who he's been able to beat, how he shuts everyone's offense down, He's a more boring version of what a lot of Bernard Hopkins does, and he does it in a more slick, skillful way with rapid reflexes, and he relies on speed and movement and just a deep,
02:03:41.000 deep, deep understanding of boxing.
02:03:44.000 He's just so much better.
02:03:45.000 And if people don't know, if you think you're really good, and then you get in there and you box a guy like that, he will fucking expose the shit out of you.
02:03:52.000 He will expose the shit out of you.
02:03:54.000 It's a different animal, man.
02:03:56.000 I mean, who knows, man?
02:03:57.000 Look, one of the things we know about Conor is he has a ridiculous belief in himself and he has unbelievable power.
02:04:03.000 One of the things we know about Floyd is he's 39, I think.
02:04:07.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:04:07.000 Is that how old it is?
02:04:08.000 Yeah, that's what I've seen on here, yeah.
02:04:09.000 So, when a guy turns 39, you never know.
02:04:12.000 I mean, for every guy like Bernard Hopkins, there's a bunch of guys who the wheels just fall off and all of a sudden they can't take a punch anymore and they can't fight anymore, they don't move good anymore.
02:04:22.000 But I can't imagine a world where he's not light years past Conor with boxing skill.
02:04:28.000 I think these guys are thinking about money.
02:04:30.000 Oh, yeah.
02:04:31.000 More than like a result.
02:04:34.000 The money will be giant.
02:04:35.000 And they'll probably figure out a way where both of them don't lose or something like that.
02:04:39.000 I don't think they're going to do that.
02:04:41.000 I think they're going to really fight.
02:04:43.000 I can't imagine that either one of them would be willing to negotiate with the other one while thinking that they might get double-crossed.
02:04:50.000 You know, like, nah, I don't buy that.
02:04:52.000 Because remember with Victor Ortiz and Mayweather, when Victor Ortiz was doing some dirty shit to Mayweather, and Victor Ortiz apologized, and Floyd Mayweather just stepped to him and sucker punched him in the face and KO'd him?
02:05:03.000 Do you remember that?
02:05:04.000 Watch this.
02:05:05.000 Here, pull that up because it's kind of hilarious.
02:05:09.000 There's no deals being made.
02:05:11.000 Not in this world.
02:05:12.000 This is a world of competitive boxing.
02:05:14.000 I'm only saying that because one's an MMA guy.
02:05:18.000 Watch this.
02:05:19.000 Victor Ortiz gets warned because he kept head-butting and getting really dirty.
02:05:24.000 And so he goes to touch hands.
02:05:26.000 Look at this.
02:05:28.000 Boom!
02:05:28.000 Bang!
02:05:29.000 He goes to touch hands like, yo, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
02:05:32.000 Bing!
02:05:32.000 Bang!
02:05:33.000 I mean, it's hilarious.
02:05:37.000 That's the real world of boxing.
02:05:39.000 Mayweather just knocked him the fuck out.
02:05:41.000 He thought they were gonna touch gloves and be buddies and then get back after it, and Mayweather's like, bitch!
02:05:47.000 Pop!
02:05:48.000 He hit him with a left hook that he never saw coming.
02:05:49.000 Straight right hand.
02:05:50.000 That's a wrap.
02:05:52.000 And I just think that the skill level in straight boxing that Floyd Mayweather has, it's very difficult to understand why you're just looking at...
02:06:01.000 Look, he's touching him here.
02:06:02.000 Look at this.
02:06:03.000 Bing, bitch.
02:06:05.000 He even had a bitch look on his face.
02:06:07.000 Ortiz is looking at the ref.
02:06:07.000 Look at his face.
02:06:08.000 He's like, bitch.
02:06:09.000 He even said bitch.
02:06:11.000 Bam.
02:06:11.000 Bam.
02:06:12.000 Yeah.
02:06:12.000 Look at this.
02:06:13.000 Bing.
02:06:13.000 Chin.
02:06:14.000 Hey, what is he doing?
02:06:15.000 Boom.
02:06:16.000 That's a wrap.
02:06:18.000 And that was a wrap for Victor Ortiz's career, really, essentially.
02:06:22.000 Is there another fight to bring Floyd out of retirement that he's on right now?
02:06:26.000 Sure, Pacquiao.
02:06:27.000 Pacquiao's the big fight.
02:06:28.000 Especially since Pacquiao just beat Timothy Bradley.
02:06:30.000 If Pacquiao decided to really ramp it up, I think he still can get a lot of people excited about him.
02:06:38.000 You know, he had a shoulder injury.
02:06:39.000 He had his shoulder repaired, but obviously it was great in the Bradley fight.
02:06:42.000 He looked awesome in the Bradley fight.
02:06:43.000 He's a beast.
02:06:44.000 I think that could be a real fight.
02:06:45.000 But I also think that Floyd Mayweather vs.
02:06:47.000 Conor would generate insane amounts of money.
02:06:50.000 Insane.
02:06:51.000 The hype would just be fun to watch.
02:06:52.000 The 24-7 they would make would be great TV. Who knows, man?
02:06:56.000 Who fucking knows?
02:06:57.000 I don't think so, though.
02:06:59.000 I don't think he can.
02:07:00.000 I would imagine, unless the UFC is involved...
02:07:03.000 They'd have to let him out of contract.
02:07:04.000 Exactly.
02:07:05.000 And I can't imagine that they would be willing to do that.
02:07:08.000 And I can't imagine that they would let him fight Floyd Mayweather.
02:07:12.000 Dana and Lorenzo and Frank are serious boxing fanatics.
02:07:16.000 They know a lot about boxing.
02:07:17.000 Could there be a cross-promotion?
02:07:19.000 Oh, man.
02:07:20.000 In some way, like, have the fight on a UFC card?
02:07:21.000 If everybody can get a piece.
02:07:22.000 Look, it could happen, but I wouldn't throw a fighter to the Lions like that.
02:07:26.000 Like, I just don't...
02:07:28.000 Look, I could be wrong.
02:07:30.000 I'm no fucking...
02:07:34.000 I'm clairvoyant.
02:07:35.000 I don't really know what's going to happen in a fight.
02:07:37.000 But I think Mayweather is a ghost.
02:07:39.000 I think you go to punch where Mayweather is, and Mayweather's not there anymore.
02:07:44.000 And he's popping you with jabs and slowly getting you frustrated and setting traps.
02:07:48.000 And the next thing you know, he's uncorking shots on you.
02:07:51.000 Who the fuck knows?
02:07:52.000 But who knows?
02:07:53.000 Maybe Conor McGregor, if he went to straight boxing, would be even more successful than he is as an MMA fighter.
02:07:58.000 Because his best knockouts were with punches.
02:08:01.000 I mean, his left hand is a fucking piston.
02:08:04.000 He has a nasty left hand.
02:08:05.000 He fucks a lot of guys up.
02:08:07.000 But...
02:08:08.000 Is he fucking guys up that are just not at the level of boxing as, say, a Timothy Bradley or Maidana or, you know, Juan Manuel Marquez?
02:08:18.000 The guys who...
02:08:19.000 He is, though.
02:08:19.000 And they're distracted by training for other types of things.
02:08:24.000 Yes.
02:08:25.000 Right, right, right.
02:08:25.000 For the ground game.
02:08:27.000 Right.
02:08:27.000 For Muay Thai.
02:08:28.000 Yeah.
02:08:28.000 It's like...
02:08:29.000 Mayweather's just focused on...
02:08:34.000 Yes, exactly.
02:08:36.000 And he's a master at it.
02:08:37.000 Like a straight-up master.
02:08:39.000 In an MMA fight, it wouldn't even be close.
02:08:41.000 It would not even be close.
02:08:42.000 Conor would kick his body apart before Mayweather even got close to him.
02:08:46.000 I think his understanding of the distance, there's no way Mayweather would understand the distance.
02:08:51.000 Conor would hit him with spinning back kicks to the body.
02:08:53.000 Mayweather would crumble.
02:08:54.000 Conor would knee him in the body in a clinch.
02:08:56.000 It would be awful.
02:08:57.000 He would kill him.
02:08:57.000 He would kill him in an MMA fight.
02:08:59.000 He's much bigger, too.
02:09:00.000 Conor really struggles to get down to 145. He's a big fuck.
02:09:04.000 So I just think in an MMA fight it would be disastrous for Mayweather, but it could be equally disastrous in a boxing fight for Conor.
02:09:11.000 The only thing that makes me think that maybe Conor could survive is he's a fucking super dangerous puncher, just like Maidana was, or Maidana is, even though Maidana's a world-class boxer.
02:09:22.000 Maidana's the guy who beat Adrian Broner.
02:09:24.000 Maidana's a serious, vicious power puncher, and he's real aggressive and wild.
02:09:29.000 Makes me think, like, maybe if...
02:09:33.000 If Conor went straight into boxing, maybe he could have been a world-class boxer.
02:09:37.000 Maybe he could have been some real Ricky Hatton-type challenger.
02:09:42.000 Entirely possible.
02:09:43.000 But even Ricky Hatton got fucked up by Mayweather, man.
02:09:46.000 When Ricky Hatton was Ricky Hatton.
02:09:48.000 When he was in his prime.
02:09:49.000 I don't think Ricky Hatton should have quit after that fight.
02:09:52.000 Hey, man, he liked to do blow.
02:09:54.000 Yeah.
02:09:55.000 He wanted to get fat.
02:09:56.000 He was having a party.
02:09:57.000 He didn't get fat and do blow.
02:09:58.000 Well, he did have one comeback fight and just didn't like how he performed.
02:10:01.000 And I think he actually wound up winning, but he decided that it was over, that he lost it.
02:10:06.000 I think...
02:10:07.000 Got a beat out of him.
02:10:09.000 It could be that, but it also could be...
02:10:11.000 Well, Pacquiao really fucked him up.
02:10:13.000 Pacquiao hurt him bad.
02:10:14.000 When Pacquiao knocked him out, he knocked him dead.
02:10:16.000 Mayweather fucked him up, but when Pacquiao fucked him up, it was like, whoa, that was a bad knockout.
02:10:22.000 Manny's got those gigantic tree trunk legs, those spring...
02:10:26.000 He's got a calf.
02:10:27.000 His calf muscles are like 4x4 springs.
02:10:30.000 He just...
02:10:30.000 He just jumps at you and uncorks left hands on your chin.
02:10:34.000 And when he did that to Ricky Hatton, he just went to sleep.
02:10:38.000 Yeah, that's like the second, like, British, like, hope that that happened to.
02:10:43.000 Like, they was cleaning up in Europe and then they came out here.
02:10:45.000 Remember Prince Nazim Mohammed?
02:10:47.000 Hamed, yeah.
02:10:49.000 Prince Nazim Hamed got exposed by, um...
02:10:54.000 The fuck is his name?
02:10:56.000 A guy who is in a series of wars with, uh...
02:11:01.000 It wasn't Perna or Whitaker, was it?
02:11:03.000 No, no, no, no.
02:11:03.000 It was a Mexican gentleman.
02:11:05.000 Marcos Barrera.
02:11:06.000 Oh, okay.
02:11:06.000 Barrera?
02:11:07.000 Marcos Antonio Barrera?
02:11:08.000 Yeah.
02:11:09.000 Yeah, that's who it was.
02:11:10.000 And he exposed him.
02:11:12.000 He showed that fundamental boxing at the highest level is going to beat that crazy jumping in, wild shit.
02:11:18.000 Like, wild shit didn't work on the top-level guys.
02:11:21.000 And so he got kind of exposed in that fight.
02:11:24.000 But...
02:11:25.000 You know what, man?
02:11:27.000 Boxing is so specialized.
02:11:29.000 The guys that are really good, the really, really good guys, they're underrated how good they are.
02:11:36.000 As a person who's watching it from the outside, you don't understand how good a guy like Mayweather is, I think, unless you're there with him while he's doing his stuff.
02:11:44.000 I bet if a guy's boxing him, I bet that's when you get a real understanding of how good he is.
02:11:50.000 And he's disciplined, too.
02:11:51.000 He's more disciplined than he acts on the outside.
02:11:55.000 When I used to hang out with Kevin Hart a little bit, he used to hang out with Mayweather, and he said they'd be partying in the middle of the party.
02:12:00.000 He said, I gotta go.
02:12:02.000 And it's like, three in the morning, I gotta go do road work.
02:12:04.000 And he'd just go run.
02:12:06.000 And bring the car, and then run.
02:12:08.000 Runs in jeans.
02:12:09.000 Just says, just follow me.
02:12:11.000 And he goes running.
02:12:12.000 Well, he's in tremendous shape, always.
02:12:15.000 But apparently now, he's a little heavy.
02:12:18.000 Who knows, man?
02:12:19.000 I mean, if enough money gets thrown in the UFC's direction, the UFC might look at it this way.
02:12:23.000 Here's a pragmatic way of looking at it.
02:12:25.000 We can still make a lot of money with Conor McGregor.
02:12:27.000 Still make a lot of money with Conor McGregor in an MMA fight.
02:12:30.000 We can still make a lot of money if Conor rematches Nate Diaz, which I hear they're trying to make happen as well.
02:12:36.000 That's what the rumor's been.
02:12:39.000 But is he going to beat the best guys in the world now?
02:12:42.000 After Nate Diaz boxed him up and choked him out, is that going to happen again?
02:12:47.000 And if that does happen again, how much will that deflate his value on the open market?
02:12:52.000 If you're playing a game of chess, not looking in terms of a guy's career as an MMA fighter, but looking at it as a game of financial chess, how do you move your piece?
02:13:01.000 You might say, look, the amount of money that you can make with a Mayweather fight is off the charts.
02:13:06.000 Right.
02:13:06.000 Off the charts.
02:13:07.000 So you're talking about like a three million pay-per-view buy or something crazy.
02:13:11.000 So you do that, you move that up, and you take that chance, and he gets boxed up by Mayweather, and maybe he survives.
02:13:18.000 If he survives and loses a fucking decision, and he goes back and he says, all respect to Mayweather, you know, I'm back to MMA. I didn't understand his hands.
02:13:28.000 It's a learning experience.
02:13:29.000 And he has this great press conference.
02:13:31.000 If he can survive, he's not diminished too much.
02:13:34.000 And Mayweather's not like a murderous puncher.
02:13:36.000 He's not like a Canelo Alvarez or a Gennady Golovkin.
02:13:39.000 Golovkin is a bad fight for him.
02:13:41.000 Someone like that's a bad fight for him.
02:13:43.000 A murderous puncher.
02:13:44.000 Because most likely they're going to take him out.
02:13:46.000 But Mayweather, it's very possible he's going to get to the decision.
02:13:49.000 And at 39 is perfect age.
02:13:51.000 It's good age.
02:13:52.000 Look, if I was in his corner, I would say, look, this can be done.
02:13:56.000 This can be done.
02:13:56.000 And it feels like McGregor wants to get paid because he threatened to quit because he wanted to get paid more money.
02:14:04.000 No, no, no.
02:14:05.000 He really didn't threaten to quit.
02:14:07.000 What he didn't want to do is he didn't want to do any of the press conferences.
02:14:10.000 So he called the UFC's bluff.
02:14:12.000 He said, you're not gonna remove me from the card.
02:14:14.000 I'm fucking Conor McGregor.
02:14:15.000 I call the shots.
02:14:16.000 And the UFC is like, okay!
02:14:18.000 Well, we're gonna cancel your fight, so take care.
02:14:21.000 And, you know, they had like a long break where they weren't even talking back and forth to each other.
02:14:25.000 And Dana's like, nope, I haven't talked to him.
02:14:26.000 He's not on the fight anymore.
02:14:28.000 He wasn't at the press conference.
02:14:29.000 We're just gonna move on with UFC 200. And, you know, UFC 200 is about the sport.
02:14:34.000 It's all about the sport.
02:14:36.000 Well, it's also...
02:14:37.000 It's an honor to be on that card.
02:14:39.000 It's a historical card.
02:14:40.000 Just like UFC 100 was a historical card, UFC 200 is an absolutely historical card.
02:14:45.000 And one guy can't hold it up.
02:14:47.000 It doesn't matter if you're Conor McGregor or Ronda Rousey or it doesn't matter what kind of a superstar you are.
02:14:51.000 You can't hold up the UFC 200 card.
02:14:53.000 And you have to do the press.
02:14:54.000 So that was their position.
02:14:55.000 They took a stand.
02:14:56.000 And so now he's in this position where he's got to figure out what the fuck he's going to do.
02:15:00.000 He's going to fight Mayweather.
02:15:01.000 I don't know, he can.
02:15:03.000 I believe he would need the UFC's blessing.
02:15:05.000 I don't see a world, I can't imagine a world in which he doesn't need the UFC's blessing.
02:15:11.000 What's Rousey's plan?
02:15:12.000 What's she doing now?
02:15:13.000 You'd have to talk to her.
02:15:14.000 I think the type of champion that she was, as good as she was, as much as she dominated, I can't imagine that she's not going to do it again.
02:15:23.000 I can't imagine that one fight will set her back that much.
02:15:26.000 But she also has massive amounts of distractions.
02:15:29.000 She has a huge career in movies.
02:15:32.000 She's doing giant movies.
02:15:34.000 She's wanted for commercials and this and that.
02:15:37.000 She's got a book.
02:15:38.000 Oh, fuck yeah, man.
02:15:39.000 She's a superstar.
02:15:40.000 She's a superstar.
02:15:42.000 But does it haunt her that a girl that she beat twice, Misha Tate, has the belt, is the champion right now?
02:15:49.000 And was talking shit about her yesterday.
02:15:51.000 Right here.
02:15:53.000 Look, I think...
02:15:56.000 I think Ronda obviously had a bad fight with Holly Holm.
02:16:00.000 Holly Holm obviously had a great fight with Ronda.
02:16:02.000 And I think Holly Holm has a great style for Ronda if Ronda fights that way.
02:16:08.000 But if Ronda doesn't fight that way, if she fights the way that Misha fought, she stays on the outside and she fights a little more strategic and she uses more movement and she incorporates a bunch of different types of takedowns.
02:16:19.000 Ronda's a champion.
02:16:20.000 She's an elite athlete and she's one of the best Right.
02:16:31.000 Right.
02:16:34.000 Right.
02:16:40.000 But in her defense, she said she got rocked by a big punch early in the first fight.
02:16:44.000 So it's very difficult to say how much that had an effect on her because she did get cracked by Holly early in the fight.
02:16:51.000 So she could have been out of it and not able to stick to her game plan, whatever it might have been.
02:16:55.000 It's entirely possible.
02:16:56.000 When you get cracked like that, Everything goes out the window.
02:17:00.000 You never know.
02:17:01.000 The only person who knows is the person who got hit.
02:17:04.000 Because if we see it, like Aldo.
02:17:06.000 When Aldo fought McGregor, he just got knocked out.
02:17:08.000 It was obvious.
02:17:09.000 We saw it in front of us.
02:17:10.000 His body stopped working.
02:17:11.000 But Ronda could have got real close to that, and we didn't even see it.
02:17:14.000 She could have, bang!
02:17:16.000 She dropped one in on her, and Ronda could have been just out of it.
02:17:19.000 Like, drunk, not knowing what she's doing.
02:17:21.000 Like, literally looking at life through a hole in a shoebox.
02:17:25.000 That is entirely possible.
02:17:27.000 So, if they fight again and Ronda manages to not get hit like that, she fights a little bit more strategic, I could see Ronda absolutely making a go at the title again.
02:17:39.000 Absolutely.
02:17:40.000 Absolutely being a champion again.
02:17:41.000 She's one of the best in the world, no doubt about it.
02:17:44.000 It's a matter of what does she want?
02:17:46.000 What does she want to do with her time?
02:17:48.000 Does she want to dedicate herself the way she dedicated herself when she was tearing up the division?
02:17:52.000 It's a very difficult thing to maintain.
02:17:55.000 And especially difficult when you have the massive amount of distractions that she has.
02:17:59.000 So much Hollywood in her life.
02:18:01.000 So much Hollywood.
02:18:01.000 And money.
02:18:02.000 So much money.
02:18:03.000 Which is what you want to take care of your life and you got that...
02:18:06.000 I think that's the thing, too.
02:18:08.000 I also think she's taken care of, man.
02:18:10.000 I mean, Rhonda's got to be worth millions of dollars.
02:18:13.000 I mean, if she just lives fairly frugally, and she does, she's good.
02:18:17.000 I mean, she's not buying gold underwear or anything like that.
02:18:20.000 You know what I'm saying?
02:18:21.000 She's pretty set if she wants to just be set and be a normal person.
02:18:25.000 But I gotta imagine that fire probably still burns.
02:18:28.000 I can't imagine it doesn't.
02:18:30.000 I would think that the intelligent way to do it, though, would be to have a warm-up fight.
02:18:34.000 That's what I would think.
02:18:36.000 And people would say, oh, she should just go right into the title fight because what if she loses?
02:18:41.000 Boxing, there's a reason why boxing has warm-up fights.
02:18:44.000 They're smart.
02:18:45.000 They've already figured it out.
02:18:46.000 Warm-up fights are good for two things.
02:18:48.000 First of all, the name, warm-up.
02:18:49.000 It really does warm you up.
02:18:50.000 It gets you back to competition.
02:18:52.000 And we saw with Jon Jones, when Jon Jones recently fought, when he fought OSP, he was supposed to fight Daniel Cormier.
02:18:58.000 He felt himself, and he said it, that he just couldn't pull the trigger.
02:19:01.000 He felt kind of rusty in there.
02:19:03.000 It's because he'd been out for a long time, more than a year.
02:19:05.000 So, with a guy...
02:19:07.000 That's trying to get back at it.
02:19:10.000 You know, I think it was critical for him to have a tough fight against a guy like Ovin St. Preux, who's a world-class, number six-ranked light heavyweight.
02:19:17.000 Get down under the belt.
02:19:18.000 It's a warm-up fight.
02:19:19.000 Then fight Daniel Cuomo, and then we're going to see what's up.
02:19:22.000 I think for Rhonda, it's probably a good idea for her to do that, too.
02:19:25.000 Fight, like, a top ten contender, a tough girl, like a Jessica Ai or someone like that.
02:19:30.000 Give that girl a chance.
02:19:32.000 Give Jessica or Raquel Pennington.
02:19:33.000 Give her a chance.
02:19:34.000 Give her a chance to prove what she can do.
02:19:36.000 And maybe even upset Ronda, give Ronda a chance to get her feet wet, get back to competition, but not be fighting for the title.
02:19:42.000 So, who knows?
02:19:44.000 Who knows what she's going to decide to do?
02:19:46.000 But she's, again, she's set.
02:19:48.000 No matter what she wants to do.
02:19:49.000 It's a matter of what she wants to do with her legacy.
02:19:50.000 It's not a matter of a financial decision, I don't think, at this point.
02:19:54.000 And Connor, like, I'm thinking I'm Connor.
02:19:59.000 If I'm Connor, I'm like, I gotta work on my ground game.
02:20:02.000 100%.
02:20:02.000 Is he doing it?
02:20:04.000 I'm sure.
02:20:04.000 Yeah, there's pictures of him.
02:20:06.000 He has a brown belt apparently down.
02:20:07.000 He's training.
02:20:08.000 The real issue is...
02:20:11.000 It's a long road to develop those kind of skills at a high level.
02:20:16.000 You have to be, and you might look good with a few moves.
02:20:19.000 Like every blue belt, like some blue belts have like one nasty arm bar.
02:20:23.000 Like there's dudes that do like a certain technique and they hone that shit down to razor sharpness.
02:20:28.000 But if you can avoid that, how much else does he have?
02:20:33.000 Right.
02:20:34.000 It's like having an argument with someone.
02:20:36.000 If someone doesn't have a good vocabulary and you have an argument with him, they might say one thing, yeah, well, you're fucking stupid!
02:20:43.000 And it might work on some people, but you're like, I'm stupid.
02:20:46.000 What about you, dummy?
02:20:46.000 And then you start talking to that person.
02:20:48.000 You start talking with a lot of different words, having a lot of good points, saying a lot of things that you know that they can't argue against, and then you start stunning them, right?
02:20:56.000 That's what a good argument is with two people.
02:20:58.000 Well, if an MMA fighter only has like one or two moves, you only have a few things, you're not gonna win an argument with someone who's verbally skilled.
02:21:06.000 Jiu Jitsu is like that in a lot of ways.
02:21:08.000 Like someone can have a fairly good vocabulary and a fairly good understanding of the world.
02:21:14.000 But if you were in some sort of a debate with like Richard Dawkins about science, like you're gonna get fucked up.
02:21:22.000 You know, if you debate Christopher Hitchens while he's alive or Sam Harris about religion, you're gonna get fucked up.
02:21:27.000 They have more tools, more weapons, more understanding.
02:21:30.000 That's the same way with jiu-jitsu.
02:21:32.000 It's funny.
02:21:33.000 I like, you said Richard, what's his name?
02:21:34.000 Richard Dawkins.
02:21:35.000 Like, he's on a debate team.
02:21:37.000 He turns to a team.
02:21:38.000 We about to fuck these other scientists up.
02:21:40.000 They have no idea about the realm of vocabulary that's about to rain on their motherfucker domes.
02:21:48.000 And they just pound him.
02:21:49.000 It wouldn't be scientists, though.
02:21:51.000 It'd be like clergymen.
02:21:53.000 They're always debating clergymen and rabbis and all these crazy people that believe ancient shit.
02:22:00.000 Listen, man, I gotta get the fuck out of here, Ian Edwards.
02:22:03.000 So we're gonna do some soccer games, man.
02:22:06.000 Bring me to the world of soccer.
02:22:08.000 He's gonna introduce it to me.
02:22:10.000 Let me know.
02:22:11.000 It's very exciting.
02:22:12.000 It's funny, though.
02:22:13.000 I know what you're gonna do.
02:22:15.000 You're gonna come And then you're going to talk shit.
02:22:18.000 You're going to trash the whole thing.
02:22:20.000 Well, I'll tell you what, you people, I'm telling you right now, you got to stop falling down when people slap you.
02:22:25.000 Nobody likes that.
02:22:26.000 Nobody likes that.
02:22:27.000 They shouldn't do it.
02:22:28.000 You shouldn't do it.
02:22:29.000 It's in the NBA now, too.
02:22:30.000 It's in the NBA now.
02:22:32.000 I don't want to hear this.
02:22:33.000 Don't do it.
02:22:34.000 It's shitty.
02:22:34.000 I've never liked it.
02:22:35.000 But people do it to get the free kick or the penalty or to get the other person sent off.
02:22:40.000 It's become a part of the game.
02:22:41.000 It's unfortunate.
02:22:42.000 So let's just get that out the way before you come in.
02:22:45.000 Because you're going to see that.
02:22:46.000 But besides that, it's a man's game.
02:22:50.000 Yeah, I mean, get the fuck out of here.
02:22:51.000 When Raquel Pennington choked out Ashley Evan Smith, blood was pouring down her face.
02:22:56.000 She strangled her unconscious with one second to go with a bulldog choke in the first round.
02:23:00.000 That's a girl!
02:23:01.000 It's a 135 pound girl!
02:23:03.000 And you get smacked running down the field like, oh!
02:23:06.000 They fall, they hold their mouth, they roll around like a baby.
02:23:10.000 Yeah, and women, and when you watch women's soccer, women don't do that.
02:23:14.000 Women don't do that.
02:23:15.000 Women do not take dives and get smacked.
02:23:18.000 Someone needs to start a campaign.
02:23:19.000 Maybe we can help, Ian.
02:23:21.000 Maybe your podcast, because you have a soccer...
02:23:23.000 What is your podcast?
02:23:25.000 Soccer Comic Rant.
02:23:26.000 Soccer Comic Rant.
02:23:27.000 Maybe we can help.
02:23:28.000 Maybe we can help.
02:23:29.000 All right.
02:23:30.000 Go home, you fucks.
02:23:31.000 Or if you are home, go to sleep.
02:23:33.000 Or don't listen to me.
02:23:34.000 Do whatever the fuck you want to do.
02:23:35.000 Much love, everybody.
02:23:36.000 Thank you.
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