Coffee, man, coffee, coffee. It's the one thing we can all agree on: it's good, it's bad, and it's all the same thing. In this episode, we talk about the joy that is coffee, and the people who make it, Keith Jardine, Tate, and Jamie, and how they love to go to coffee shops and talk about coffee. We also talk about how much Keith loves to drink coffee and how much he loves to talk about it, and what it's like to be in a coffee shop with someone who loves coffee so much that he's willing to drink it all the time, and that's not even close to being drunk enough to enjoy it the way Keith does. We also discuss how much Tate drinks too much, and why it's a good thing that he does so much of it, because he's a monster when it comes to drinking coffee and drinking it at the same time, because it's just as good as it is when he's sober, and he's drinking it in a nice way that makes you feel like you're not drinking it as much as you should be drinking it. We're in no way affiliated with the coffee company, but we're drinking it and talking about it so we should all drink it, so why not drink it? and drink it with Keith and Jamie . we're in a way that's just like that, right? , right? We'll see you soon. Da Da da da da Da Da Da DA DA DA! We are live! (and we're live! We'll be back soon, soon, we'll be with you soon, y'all. Da da Da da DA DA Da Da, Da da, Da Da-da, we are live, we're here! We're live, right now! -Tate and Jamie. -Peeeeeeee -Jon & Keith Jon & Tate - Jon & Jamie - EJ - PeeeeeeEEEeee! -Jon and Tate Colin Tim - TAY AND KEVIN Keith JARDIN - BOBBY & KELLY - SONGS - KEVAN - DEREK JARDINE - JAMES - TAY & KAREN - CURTIS - RYAN
00:01:58.000I remember when we were training together, we'd get done training and he would take off to a bookstore or a coffee shop, put on his glasses and just read and sip coffee.
00:04:32.000And it's just so cool to watch that guy just light up to be just a world champion kickboxer and then just smoke a cigarette once in a while.
00:04:58.000If a sport relies on cardio as a huge factor, why would you personally limit one of the biggest factors I mean, you can mitigate it somewhat with hard training and a healthy lifestyle and, you know, moderation.
00:05:31.000Decrease in performance you would get from smoking cigarettes versus the amount of increase in performance you can get from taking some things.
00:05:37.000Like, what's this shit they keep getting popped with?
00:06:01.000But going back to Joe Schilling, this is my only, and I don't advocate smoking ever, right?
00:06:07.000My family members die from it, cancer, all that stuff.
00:06:11.000But with Joe Schilling, a guy like that, if he smokes every now and then, I don't know how often he's smoking, but if he's smoking cigarettes...
00:06:18.000And it allows him to be more free and creative inside the ring.
00:07:46.000If you try to stop something, it means you want to stop something.
00:07:50.000So if you try to stop and then you don't stop, that means it beat your ass.
00:07:54.000That is an important part of your life where you can win.
00:07:58.000You're in a competition with yourself and you can win and you don't.
00:08:01.000This is my feeling about this and I'm not trying to be hard on people, but I think this is an important distinction.
00:08:06.000When you fail yourself, When you decide to yourself that you're gonna take care of something and you're gonna kick an addiction, you're gonna do something, and you don't do it, you don't like yourself as much.
00:08:17.000It's one of the most important things about accomplishments and about overcoming bad things in your life.
00:08:23.000If you have something you're doing, like smoking cigarettes, and you don't kick it, you won't respect yourself the same.
00:08:30.000The only thing I would say, though, is that sometimes liking yourself isn't so important for accomplishing great things.
00:08:42.000But, you know, sometimes happiness can be the great stopper.
00:08:45.000You know, it's like Harriet Doerr, when she won the Book Award, they said, were you happy being a housewife for 35 years?
00:08:50.000And she said, why would anybody who's happy write a book?
00:08:52.000I'm not saying that you have to be suffering, but a lot of times I don't know that being satisfied, having peace of mind, and even being happy, which of course we all are striving for, sometimes that can be a hindrance to what got you Where you are in the first place.
00:09:10.000And I'm speaking primarily, a lot of great books, screenplays, films made by smokers.
00:09:19.000But when it comes to addiction, one of the things that they found that's way easier to deal with, so a lot of people say, well, stop smoking because it'll kill you, or stop smoking because it makes no sense, or stop smoking because you're not disciplined.
00:09:31.000That tends to not, that might work for a short period of time, but people always go back to their set point.
00:09:36.000And what does work better is Well, I don't think you should say always because a lot of people quit.
00:09:41.000But what helps with quitting from what I have read and what I've talked to and even in my own experience is that you have to start associating The act of smoking or whatever your vice might be with something negative and associating and even feeling the difference.
00:09:59.000I always say about people who want to get in shape.
00:10:01.000If you could feel, if people are out of shape and eat a lot and eat shitty food, if they could feel how much better they feel, I'm just talking about the pleasure principle.
00:10:09.000If they could feel what it's like to be in shape, I think they'd have an easier time going on.
00:10:14.000The road to get there, though, be like, you won't realize how good you feel smoking until, I mean, the withdrawals and all.
00:10:20.000It's going to take forever, man, to get through that point.
00:11:35.000It's like, we better hang on to this shit.
00:11:36.000The only way fasting's good is when your body's in ketosis.
00:11:40.000Because then your body just starts burning fat.
00:11:42.000The fucked up thing about addictions is that this evolutionary biologist, his name escapes me, was talking about how the fact that, like an addictive mindset, people who are extreme, who need a lot of food, for example, or whatever, that kind of mindset actually served our ancestors.
00:12:00.000Cavemen, the idea of finding, pinpointing what you want, which is that deer, and running after it for three days until it, you know, falls over, that need, that sort of reptilian Yes.
00:12:13.000The problem is when you take away the fact that you have to chase a deer for three days, we still have a lot of that reptilian sort of caveman mentality.
00:12:23.000And the most successful people in those societies now will tend to be the same people that have the same insane drive to do all the cocaine or eat all the food or drink all the alcohol.
00:12:36.000Or they're addictive to working out or to their sport.
00:12:41.000Most of the time, you know these people, Joe, and so do you.
00:12:45.000Those world, those elite of the elite, the one percenters, they're not the funs to hang out with.
00:13:15.000Do you want to be some miserable person that's laden with addictions that you may or may not be managing, but that is creating some success, like in the form of art, like maybe music or something like that?
00:18:57.000Rico Ciapparelli, who was probably one of the most important guys in the early days of MMA as far as incorporating wrestling and submissions.
00:19:06.000Rico was a huge asset to a lot of guys that were just starting out.
00:19:12.000And to this day has helped a lot of fighters.
00:19:16.000Mac Danzig was working with Rico before he retired, and it was his last few fights, and he was like, Rico is a fucking genius, man.
00:21:50.000So he wants you to hit paths and then shoot doubles, and he's going to shoot doubles on you and take you down and hit you as well?
00:21:56.000Yeah, he was doing this setup where he would, it was like a straight right, left hook, and then he'd get in on a single leg.
00:22:02.000And I was like, God, man, when you're coming and striking, I feel like you're open for it.
00:22:07.000Because his setup, again, I don't know Raina, I didn't train with him before that, so I I didn't feel like I was in a position to say anything, but I was like, God, I feel like you're opening yourself up with Leota, man.
00:23:01.000There's only so much your body can do if you're not supplementing your hormones after a certain age.
00:23:08.000And when you see guys that fucked with steroids most of their life and then tried to operate off of them, you have real problems just kick-starting your endocrine system.
00:23:29.000He's younger a little bit than Vitor, first of all, but he's figured out a way to get down to 240, and maybe he doesn't have as much power.
00:23:35.000Well, I think what he's realizing now is technically, like as a striker, he is at a fucking very high level.
00:23:45.000He's made mistakes in some of his fights, mistakes in his approaches, mistakes in how big he tried to be, or running out of gas, like in the Travis Brown fight when Travis caught him with that front kick to the face.
00:23:57.000He would try to finish guys off, and if he didn't finish guys off, he'd kind of be fucked.
00:24:01.000And now, you know, he's relying on skills.
00:24:10.000I'm just saying, now that he's one of the guys where you see drug testing kick in, and obviously he looks completely different, but now he has to adapt the way he fights.
00:24:18.000He has more skills in the heavyweight division than anyone else when he comes striking.
00:25:37.000Jerome LeBan or Ernesto, when you go back to like the history of K1, goddamn Andy Hoog, some of the greatest strikers of all time, the most entertaining, exciting, wild, crazy fights between heavyweights, and they would knock each other out all the time!
00:25:53.000Yeah, Peter Archer, Sam Schilt, I mean, you got some monsters.
00:25:57.000Oh my god, Sammy Schilt, good luck trying to get in on that guy.
00:26:00.000Seven feet tall, he would front kick the shit out of you.
00:26:04.000How the fuck did he not play professional basketball?
00:26:06.000Well, dude, he was such a good kickboxer.
00:26:08.000I just wish there was more money in kickboxing.
00:28:41.000If Cain is in shape in that cardio thing and just in his grill, boxing, getting close, and wrestling, he's probably at least as good a wrestler or a better wrestler than Stipe.
00:28:58.000As a person who's watched fighters my whole life, like watching the UFC, all the thousands of fights, I've never seen a heavyweight that can put the kind of pressure on somebody that Cain can.
00:30:04.000But the reason I'm saying this is coaches were saying that.
00:30:06.000His own MMA coach, after he knocked out Brett Rogers, said that Fedor won with his old tricks, but he would have liked to have him for more time training.
00:30:17.000And he thinks he's not approaching it correctly, and he just won by being Fedor.
00:30:21.000But he also caught Verdum with that old trick.
00:30:25.000He caught him, knocked him down, and then the mistake Fedor made was he jumped into his guard.
00:30:30.000But remember, he jumped in to pound him, but he caught him really, really well, knocked him down with the exact same timing that he did to everybody before that.
00:35:04.000Struve would be such a freaking handful if he could learn to use his reach.
00:35:09.000But guys like Roy Nelson, when you get these upper echelon guys, nothing against Bigfoot, but off TRT or whatever, because he actually needs it, off it, I think anyone in the top 20 kind of fucks him up.
00:35:22.000But with Struve, the real test would be who they'd give him next.
00:35:25.000Well, Struve got fucked up by Overeem.
00:35:27.000And Overeem, that was a super intelligent fight the way he fought it.
00:37:42.000Now, what I'm saying is it's rare that you see a guy like that who comes over to MMA and fights super technical, super smart, who's also really, really tough.
00:38:00.000He's a great guy, but he's got a rare set of attributes, meaning that he's at pro, sports, athlete level, as far as his ability, his movement, and his intelligence, and his approach, and his training.
00:38:13.000And then on top of that, he's tough as fuck.
00:38:23.000And one of the things that I was noticing was like how calm he was through everything.
00:38:29.000Watch when they're staring each other down.
00:38:31.000One of the things you really pay attention to is the shortness of the breathing.
00:38:35.000If you watch people breathing during nervous situations, a lot of times, even if they look calm, you can sort of see this uneasiness in the way they're taking in oxygen.
00:39:24.000It's just like, if a guy's like a really skillful trainer, and you know, you've only been doing it for a few years, you have to wait for the right guy to sort of walk through your door.
00:39:33.000Oh, yeah, it's all about them walking through the door.
00:39:35.000I remember that was a big thing with Eddie Bravo.
00:39:37.000With Eddie Bravo, it took forever for him to find someone who could do his style And prove in competition that it's very effective, not just with him.
00:48:49.000Well, Orleans, this is important because someone said to me after I posted the picture of the Oak Ridge Boys, they said they didn't have nothing on Orleans.
00:48:56.000And they put that up and I was like, whoa.
00:51:03.000Who would have ever thought that this country would be so concerned with hurting people's feelings that that would be a big part of the national debate?
00:53:49.000For people who think and act differently.
00:53:52.000That's where you get people like Marilyn Manson and Prince and great artists.
00:53:57.000So the debate becomes, how do you make those people feel safe without creating major inconvenience for the vast majority of us who say, we may not have the funds for a third bathroom.
00:54:10.000Now you're talking about an entire different infrastructure.
00:54:33.000Look, I definitely think that there is a spectrum of transgender people.
00:54:38.000And I think there's people that you wouldn't even notice.
00:54:42.000And then there's people that look a lot like men.
00:54:46.000Want to identify with women and people are gonna be scared of them and there's gonna be weirdness involved with that because Not because the transgender people might be creepy But because we know that there are men that are predators that are not transgender men that are straight That's what I worry about and if you give them the opportunity to wear a dress and go into the women's room and just say they identify with being a woman What they wanted on North Carolina and this is where it gets interesting is It's not that you had to be a transgender
00:56:07.000And it's a very different area than the legislation that exists.
00:56:12.000It's cloudy because now you're not talking about male-female.
00:56:17.000You're not saying, hey, if you are in the pension plan in this company, because women live, say, 15 years longer or whatever it might be, you have to pay more into that pension plan.
00:56:27.000As an example, that was unconstitutional because it was sex discrimination.
00:56:31.000Now, these laws are concerned with How someone identifies.
00:56:58.000Well, because if you can say, ah, well, guys are going to put on dress and just to go look at little girls, but wouldn't that be the exception overall?
01:00:10.000The other day I had to send her into a public bathroom at the movie theater.
01:00:13.000I assume when I send my eight-year-old into a woman's bathroom that she's going to be safe because it's going to be little girls and women.
01:00:20.000If there's a dude in there with a beard who says he identifies as a woman, I'm not letting my daughter go in that bathroom until that guy's out of there.
01:00:58.000This was a big part of the Fallon Fox debate, about Fallon Fox becoming a transgender and then fighting women and saying she's a woman now, with a man's frame.
01:01:07.000And then it becomes a sociological or a political issue more than a scientific and a fight analysis issue.
01:01:15.000Which is stupid because physically she's built like a man fighting little girls.
01:01:37.000Look, if you're fighting against women, and if you're fighting against women who are just taking nothing, but you're taking male hormones, where's this line?
01:02:11.000But I would suggest that question becomes relevant only when it begins to...
01:02:17.000Interfere with your everyday routine, rights, when it starts getting into situations where you're going to have to share, for example, public space, a bathroom, something intimate.
01:02:37.000In sports, it's way more important because if Gabby Garcia's on some shit, she's fighting some poor girl who's just on the regular protein.
01:03:16.000You look at Cyborg and she's a woman, of course, but there is something about her physicality that clearly she just looks like she was built to fucking bang on people like a drum.
01:04:26.000To take a fighter that has that many fights and to give them this set of skills now, because notice, this is what was most impressive to me in that fight.
01:05:35.000But he's trying to say my mouthpiece, he's talking to the ref, and wouldn't you think, would you agree, like when is there a break in the action, technically?
01:05:43.000If a guy is talking to the referee, and he's moving away, and he's not in exchange, he's like, hey, I'll drop my mouthpiece, drop my mouthpiece, is that a break in the action?
01:05:50.000Or is he calling for a break in the action, and it could be perceived that he's calling for a break in the action because the momentum is not shifting his way?
01:07:15.000He turned and pointed at his mouthpiece.
01:07:17.000Remember when Paul Harris with Nate Markor turned the ref and said, hey, he's got slippery stuff on his ankle and Nate just dove in and went, That's got to be on the fighter who voluntarily, unilaterally takes a minute to...
01:10:25.000So what would happen is Floyd Mayweather would box with Conor McGregor and basically move around and be like, all right, here goes, and it'd be a spectacle.
01:10:40.000You've got to remember, the one thing that Dana and Floyd Mayweather, who would be responsible for putting this fight together, and Conor for that matter, all they care about is money and numbers.
01:10:50.000That fight would be money and fucking numbers.
01:10:53.000It would break Pacquiao Mayweather, can't it?
01:10:55.000Okay, I know, but what I'm saying is that how would they do in that fight?
01:11:01.000So Floyd probably could knock him out anytime he wanted, right?
01:11:23.000Floyd is a guy who's broken his hands many many times, and he's not known for like really uncorking all of his might and trying to knock guys out.
01:11:31.000Not a knockout artist in the least bit.
01:13:37.000And now you're taking a guy who, he's an elite striker in the UFC, but boxing's a different game, man.
01:13:44.000You know, I would have loved to seen Canelo fight Floyd, like, in a couple of years, when Canelo's, like, 27, 28. You know, when he has the experience.
01:13:53.000Because I think, like, if you look at, like, Sugary Leonard versus Roberto Duran, like, both guys were, like, really in their prime.
01:14:18.000If I'm Canelo's management, and as a fan, I won't see Canelo Triple G. And granted, they say Canelo's probably going to have to vacate in his belt if he doesn't fight Triple G. That's what they're saying.
01:15:35.000If Triple G has to drop down five pounds, they think it'll be enough to weaken him and maybe Canelo can have a chance and they can slug it out in the trenches.
01:15:43.000If you look at the fight, the actual fight itself, when Amir Khan just fought Canelo, he did expose that speed and movement are still a problem.
01:15:54.000He doesn't have the same speed or the same movement as Floyd, but his speed and movement were a bit of a problem.
01:16:39.000MMA, you're dealing with, you know, from middleweight to light heavyweight, which guys jump back and forth, you're dealing with 20 fucking pounds.
01:16:58.000You're telling me some of these amazing fighters that you have that are superstars, like a Donald Cerrone, like a Diego Sanchez, like all these different guys that are just amazing guys that never won a title, that are huge fan favorites, right?
01:17:10.000If you look at all these different guys, Uriah Faber is another one.
01:17:13.000You're telling me those guys couldn't have been champions and you wouldn't have had even more champions and an even crazier thing if there was a weight class every 10 pounds?
01:20:19.000They're aware of that as a consequence, and I think she's become much more of a defensive-minded counter-striker, which was super effective against Ronda, obviously.
01:21:55.000It's taken so long for her to finally get her.
01:21:57.000Now she's here, and everyone's like, God.
01:22:00.000And even when she's here, man, they did it in Brazil, and they did it at 140. They made her suffer.
01:22:04.000In my personal choice, I would have had the first ever 145-pound fight in the UFC, let a bunch of people sign up to be who wants to get in there and duke it out with Cyborg.
01:22:14.000Ain't no one signing up for that, my man.
01:22:17.000But I think you've got Invicta girls that are agreeing to fight her.
01:22:19.000So if you've got Invicta girls that are agreeing to fight her, you're telling me those girls wouldn't take a fight in the UFC? Of course they would.
01:28:13.000And when I, and I don't eat a lot of bread because I'm aware of, because I monitor my body.
01:28:18.000Like, so if I eat two slices, even of really good bread, I notice that my energy kind of, it's not the same as if I eat slow cooked oatmeal, I feel really good.
01:30:03.000But Damien Maia's jiu-jitsu is so solid and so slick that whatever shot attempts he gets off, mostly it deflected, and then he eventually sweeps him, and now he's mounting him up against a cage.
01:30:13.000And Matt Brown right now is in quicksand.
01:30:15.000When you have Damian Maia on top of you and your legs are pinned together like that, that's terrifying.
01:30:20.000Because what he's done here is he's isolated his legs with a triangle.
01:30:24.000So by having those legs extended like that, he has no power from his hips.
01:30:28.000He can't throw any punches, he can't get his feet back under him, and he can't get those legs back.
01:30:33.000So he's got to push down with his hands, and while he's pushing down with his hands, Maia can punch him in the face.
01:30:38.000And so finally he gets his half guard back up, but whatever, good luck with that.
01:30:43.000He'll get these butterflies, and Maya will just sit on your legs, wear them out, put pressure on you, and then when you stand up, he'll just get to an even better position.
01:30:51.000He does this for all three rounds, by the way.
01:35:54.000And Habib, I think, you know, training with a guy that's as high-level as Habib, you mirror some of his movements, you understand what he's doing, and then Habib's dad down there helping guys out there.
01:36:08.000You know, I mean, his dad's always around Habib.
01:36:10.000And his dad coached a few other guys that have fought in the UFC as well.
01:36:14.000But you're also getting from Habib and, you know, DC and Kane, you're also picking up their training tendencies and the blueprint of these elite of the elite.
01:36:24.000And the three of them and the four of them are coming together.
01:38:32.000Ortega's transition, his guard is, I think, the best in that division at 145. I think it's the best in the UFC. Nobody fucking throws up triangles the way Brian Ortega does.
01:41:16.000But I think, like, if you look at talent level and skill level, I go back to, like, the Michael McDonald fight when he fucking just blitzkrieged him and smashed him and choked him.
01:41:24.000We haven't really heard from Michael McDonald since then.
01:44:15.000It's just that, like, what I would always think is if you wrestled and you did jiu-jitsu and you boxed and you kicked, you'd come out looking very, very muscular.
01:44:23.000When you look at guys back, you know, five years ago and you look at guys now, there is a difference.
01:44:30.000Like, if anything, they get kind of skinnier.
01:47:38.000I don't know that there's been definitive proof that everything he's saying is true, that he hasn't exaggerated something.
01:47:44.000Well, the New York Times ran two articles on their front page, and if the New York Times is going to do that, they've checked their sources.
01:47:49.000Yeah, but it's not a matter of checking sources.
01:47:51.000Like, what is the physical evidence that you have?
01:49:11.000They're going after him now for $100 million still because they said he defrauded the government of how much they paid him because he raced for the post office.
01:50:33.000But he benefited, the reason why he has a name, the reason why he got so big is because he was helping so many big name athletes, and then now he's against it.
01:50:42.000But should that, should the fact that he was helping all those big name athletes, should that disclude him from being able to realize the error of his ways and make an attempt to try to clean up the sport?
01:51:37.000So you're giving someone some sort of, you're investigating them being involved in something that's not even taking place on American soil.
01:51:49.000Second of all, you are saying as the post office, you're suing this guy for all the money that he made while he was cheating and using drugs.
01:51:55.000If you don't know that cyclists are cheating, what the fuck are you doing in the cyclist business?
01:51:59.000Because I know, I'm a comedian living in LA, and I know they're all cheating.
01:55:02.000Yeah, that guy can't post social media or nothing without getting hate.
01:55:05.000It's sort of relaxing a bit now, but I mean, dude, when the storm comes your way, like when you get in trouble for something along those lines, the storm of being a national disgrace and someone who everyone's angry at, and there's so much going on with the lawsuits and the And he's still involved in the lawsuit with the post office.
01:55:24.000The storm of pressure and stress is probably overwhelming and never-ending.
01:55:29.000But it also gives everyone now a voice on social media who's never done shit in their lives to fucking contribute and try and shit on Lance Robson, one of the greatest athletes of all time.
01:56:50.000He was playing that he has all this money and all this stuff from being one of these top poker players in the world, but it came out that he comes from a lot of money.
01:56:57.000So he puts on this lifestyle, like this baller.
01:59:02.000What I'm saying is, like, a person promotes himself on Instagram, where it's a girl who's got yoga pants and a nice big butt, and she makes money all of a sudden doing squats.
01:59:10.000I mean, there's a lot of those people.
02:00:16.000If you were a guy who didn't have any set of skills and all of a sudden by hook or by crook or by luck or by fuck, you find yourself with $100 million.
02:02:15.000What I'm saying is that I think there's a difference between the skill of stand-up, for example, and coming up with a body of work and taking all that money and shooting guns and being on a private jet and having chicks around, right?
02:02:26.000How do we know he's not giving to charity, though?
02:10:05.000When you do it as a child, it developed in that way.
02:10:09.000One of the highlights of my life, and I'm a skinny guy, the highlights of my life was when I was at John Varvedo's trying on impossibly expensive jeans and couldn't fit my calves or my upper thighs.
02:11:36.000The first thing he said is, he goes, if you're a homeless person, I don't know why these guys don't grab a seagull, kick it into the ocean, break its wing, and fucking eat it right there.
02:11:43.000They're like, alright, this is going to get weird.
02:13:10.000But it was a nice spot in the middle towards the back.
02:13:13.000And I was amazed at how difficult it is to understand what he's saying once the laughter rolls.
02:13:20.000Because when you're on stage, you hear your mic, you have monitors that are projecting towards you, and you're saying things, and the punchline hits, and then the people laugh.
02:13:31.000You have to be real careful what you're saying while people are laughing.
02:13:36.000Because it's different than a comedy club.
02:13:37.000In a comedy club, you can just hammer over it.
02:13:39.000There's 200 people in there, you say something that's funny, they're laughing, and you can add a tag in the middle of it and it makes it even funnier.
02:13:49.000In the middle of people laughing, he'll slam Slam me with something else, and then slam me with something else.
02:13:53.000But in a theater that's like 3,000 plus people, you have to wait.
02:13:58.000Because when I was sitting in the audience, it occurred to me, like, oh, when people are laughing around you, it's like people yelling at you.
02:17:15.000It's going to be, I don't know, we're selling a lot of tickets.
02:17:17.000The Wilbur is one of the best theaters to do stand-up in, because it's a three-tier, and it's shallow, meaning the people are right on top of you.
02:17:24.000So even though there's more than a thousand people in the room, it feels way more intimate.
02:17:29.000It seems like a bunch of 300-seaters stacked on top of each other.
02:20:35.000How easy is it to just order something, have it sent to you, and then how much of a difference is getting things in the mail these days as opposed to going to stores?
02:20:45.000How much of an impact has that had on actual retail stores?
02:24:35.000It's so good that it makes you go, whoa, if this guy was doing stand-up, he would be fucking murdering it right now.
02:24:41.000Do you think he just doesn't care anymore?
02:24:44.000He's absolutely so rich and absolutely so busy, and he likes doing movies, and when he does movies, he's in a lot of ways, he's like sheltered from all these people that would fuck with him.
02:24:53.000He hasn't done a movie in a while, though.
02:24:56.000For sure make Nutty Professor 4. I don't know what he's done in a while.
02:24:59.000I haven't really been paying attention, but the amount of money that Eddie Murphy's made from all those movies that he did.
02:26:58.000It was from the Mark Twain Awards from earlier this year.
02:27:00.000I'm telling you, man, just looking at that thing right there, when you're talking about a guy who hasn't done stand-up in forever, and he just goes up there and murders it like that, and is in perfect form, his timing's perfect, he's a fucking fantastic stand-up.
02:28:16.000So you go to the top of this house, and he has this...
02:28:19.000Fucking insane view of the city where it looks like Blade Runner, you know, and he's got just 180 degrees of windows.
02:28:27.000His party house is like a flying saucer that just got stuck in the side of a building, but the whole outside edge of the flying saucer is all windows.
02:28:37.000So you're sitting, there's all seats around the windows, and then he has this big bar, and I mean, the guy's just...
02:29:27.000But it was all these, I was talking to all these musician dudes about MMA. It was like, I got cornered by all these musician dudes who started throwing that.
02:32:59.000Your summers are of the gods, and I get it that it makes you appreciate one when you don't have the other, but it's hard to know that all I can do is get on a jet and I can be in LA and it's perfect.
02:33:12.000The problem in LA right now is that it's really good.
02:33:16.000Like, comedy-wise, it's never been better.
02:33:19.000Like, there's more clubs, there's more comics, there's more inspiration, there's more fun.
02:33:23.000Me and Stan Hope and Ron White were hanging out at the Comedy Store the other night, drinking and laughing and having fun, and I'm like, where else can this take place?
02:33:32.000It's like, it's so rare that you'll go there and, like, a guy like Ron White drops in to do 15 minutes.
02:35:55.000The only thing that holds me back, really, and it's not really holding me back, but having a family, you have to take them into consideration when you make any move.
02:36:45.000And I remember sitting there, thinking there, watching this, going, here's this beautiful city, this crazy ancient city in the mountains in Mexico, like 7,000 feet above sea level, you know, just with 20-plus million people stuffed in it.
02:37:37.000Like anything else, what happens is people go, you know what, LA's great, but you know there's this place, Raleigh, North Carolina, they're really doing the building infrastructure, and people move to those places.
02:37:45.000Nashville, Raleigh, you know, look what happened to Portland.
02:37:48.000That secret got out, people moved there, so...
02:37:53.000But as you get, like, one of the things I notice is, like, I'll be in places, like that place we were in in Oklahoma slash Arkansas, in the middle of nowhere, this tiny little beautiful town.
02:38:02.000We found the best coffee shop with the best single source, single origin, shade-grown coffee, you know, designer fucking coffee worthy of Keith Jardine.
02:38:10.000This is the kind of shit that he gets I'm not moving there though,
02:38:41.000And I think that it's important to note that the only reason to be in L.A., it's kind of retro, to have all these people jammed in together.
02:38:49.000The idea is that this is where the cool people are.
02:38:59.000And a lot of stuff doesn't shoot in L.A. But you don't want to shoot anyway.
02:39:03.000Your stuff that you're doing, most of it is you doing stand-up on the road, or you're doing your podcast on the road, or you're doing your podcast in town.
02:39:36.000I take you bow and arrow hunting, son.
02:39:38.000You get addicted to archery, I'll take you hunting.
02:39:40.000You realize the rush of taking out an elk and then eating it and then realizing all the guilt and weird shit that you have about food, about buying it from a grocery store.
02:43:00.000They don't know if that video is of the time that killed him, because apparently there's hundreds of hours of videos of those guys getting fucked by horses.
02:43:59.000He tries to, like, you know, like a high school girl, when they first learn how to get BJ's, they hold onto it, they have, like, a little stopper?
02:44:46.000As soon as I listened to that, I was on the plane just researching the shit out of it.
02:44:49.000But there's this guy, Jonathan Haidt, who's a social scientist, talking about that.
02:44:52.000Certain things are legal, but they elicit a disgust response, even though they don't hurt anybody.
02:44:58.000So he does this example of two things where he goes, if a brother and sister are in the woods having sex with a condom on...
02:45:07.000There's nothing inherently harmful to both of them, but all of us go, ooh.
02:45:11.000Or if a guy jerks off, or if a guy fucks a chicken then eats it, we all go, god damn, but it's not really, the chicken's already dead, and it elicits a disgust reaction, even though technically you can't really define why it's wrong.
02:45:27.000Well, you said I had to bet that bit about it, about why is it okay to kill something but you can't fuck it after you kill it?
02:45:33.000You can't do that, but if you jerked off with a chicken cutlet, I bet you wouldn't go to jail.
02:45:36.000If somebody caught you fucking a chicken, people would be really mad.
02:45:41.000But if you just took the breast, the chicken breast, wrapped it around your dick and jerked off, no one could say shit.
02:45:46.000Right, but we still have this automatic disgust.
02:45:49.000Especially if you're into ground beef.
02:45:51.000If you take ground beef and you just take raw ground beef and you warm it up to body temperature in a plastic Ziploc bag, wrap it around your dick, and just start jerking yourself with this warm beef.
02:53:20.000He mowed their lawn, repaired their car, even invited them around for dinner.
02:53:24.000Other residents in the small German town of Rottenburg also believed there was nothing odd about the 42-year-old computer expert whose light burned late into the night inside his creaking mansion.
02:53:55.000It was, he said, something he had wanted to do for a long time.
02:53:59.000I always had the fantasy, and in the end I fulfilled it, Mews said to the court on his first day of his trial for murder in the nearby city of Kessel.
02:54:09.000Yesterday, German prosecutors described how Mews had fantasized about killing and devouring someone, including his classmates, from the age of eight.
02:54:17.000The desire grew stronger after the death of his mother in 1999, Prosecutor Markus Kohler said, In March of 2001, Muse advertised on the internet for a young, well-built man who wanted to be eaten.
02:55:29.000The cannibal then chopped Mr. Brandis' into pieces and put several bits of him in his freezer next to a takeaway pizza and buried the skull in his garden.
02:55:39.000Over the next few weeks, he defrosted and cooked parts of Mr. Brandis in olive oil and garlic, eventually consuming 20 kilograms of human flesh before police finally turned up at his door.
02:55:52.000With my every bite, my memory of him grew stronger, he said.
02:55:57.000Behind bars, Muse told detectives that he first consumed his victim with a bottle of South African red wine, had got out his best cutlery, and decorated his dinner table with candles.
02:56:08.000He toasted, he tasted of pork, he said.
02:56:47.000Before setting off on his one-way journey to Rottenburg, Brandes was outwardly, at least, a successful, financially secure professional with a live-in girlfriend.
02:58:08.000Although they say that serial killers, like they get the final step is when they start eating and drinking the blood of their victims because it's their way of consuming and having complete and total power over them.
02:58:19.000Hey, he only gets five years in jail though.
03:00:28.000He was a mob assassin who just became a fucking complete-on, full-on psychopath, serial killer who killed God knows how many people.
03:00:37.000Just killed people left and right for whatever fucking reason he wanted to.
03:00:40.000And this place that they lived, this bar area where they had an apartment upstairs where they used to kill people in this apartment, they just fucking killed like a hundred people there.
03:01:27.000You can't eat dicks until we just eat veggies.
03:01:29.000He's going to come out and he's going to start eating people again.
03:01:33.000You're eating 40 pounds a man, then be like, nah, man, I'm not into meat anymore.
03:01:36.000How much do you think the footage of the act itself, which was shown in a closed room during a trial, is described in the documentary as too disturbing to show and so shocking that only 19 minutes of the four-hour video was shown.
03:03:10.000I mean, it goes back to when we were talking about bathrooms and transgender people and the amount of creeps that are actually not transgender, just sexual predators.
03:03:37.000I mean, probably not, but is there likely someone...
03:03:40.000Look, all he has to do is one crime where someone drinks someone's blood and kills someone by biting them in the neck, and then it becomes a copycat.
03:05:21.000But I think if you only ate five things, you're probably going to get sick.
03:05:24.000Unless you're supplementing yourself, you've got to make sure you're getting a proper amount of vitamin C. Yams, I'd imagine yams, kale, avocado, elk.
03:05:35.000You've got a lot of stuff there, right?
03:05:36.000I think people benefit more than other animals do on a variety of different foods.
03:06:56.000You know, a lot of these things, it goes back to the Yoel Romero thing, and even the Jeff Nowitzki thing, a lot of the stuff that we see in these stores, like GNCs and health stores that have these muscle-building things, a lot of those things are really steroids.
03:07:16.000That's why guys keep pissing hot from them.
03:07:19.000The USADA has a website that we, when Novitski was here, he sent us to the website, and you go like A through Z, you find whatever the supplement is, and you list to see whether or not people have been popped for it.
03:08:11.000It's been a lesson to me where I look back and I realize when you play sports and you live weights, nobody's 240 pounds and just that jacked.
03:08:26.000But you don't go from being 185 when you're 25. If you see a big dramatic difference, especially if they're like a veteran, yeah, something's up.
03:08:33.000But there's a You can achieve some incredible results with discipline and the right protocol with hypertrophy.
03:08:39.000You could eat a lot of food all day long and lift crazy weights.
03:08:43.000And when you're young, if your body holds up to the workload, you can put on some massive weight when you're young.
03:08:49.000When your hormones are strong, if you do it the right way, like say if you had like a strength lifting coach and you said, hey, I want to gain 20 pounds of muscle.
03:08:56.000If you had to do it right now, they would go, oh, we got to fuck with your hormones.
03:10:03.000You're also 49. Yeah, I'm also 49. Well, you know, one of the things about Pavel Tatsulin, his interview with Tim Ferriss, he was talking about his dad getting involved in powerlifting when he was in his 60s.
03:10:16.000He taught his dad powerlifting when his dad was in his 60s, and like six, seven years later, he put on X amount of pounds of muscle, and he said he looks like a 40-year-old man now from, like, if you see his back.
03:11:02.000You've never seen some of the more skeptical.
03:11:03.000What he was talking about, what Pavel was talking about was his protocol, which is that never more than five repetitions and never go to failure.
03:11:13.000Yeah, his idea is that if you, say if you lift something and like the most reps you can do is like seven, cut it off at five and put it down.
03:11:23.000And then you want what he calls greasing the groove, like doing something over and over again, giving yourself plenty of time in between it so that you're strong, you're fully recovered, and you'll get stronger and you'll get stronger faster.
03:12:15.000Well, what I do is, what I've been doing over the last few weeks since I listened to this podcast is, because I have stuff at home, I have a little gym in my house.
03:12:23.000So what I'll do is I just start working out.
03:13:14.000I've been getting my cardio in with my lifting, so I'll do, like, heavy deadlifts, and the set is whatever, a set of 10 of heavy deadlifts.
03:13:22.000I go straight from there to the treadmill, and I'll sprint as fast.
03:14:02.000One of the safest, but it's also like you're gripping it, the way you're gripping it.
03:14:07.000There's something weird about that over-under grip that you do with a standard dumbbell, and then you bang it off your shins and straighten your back up.
03:14:13.000But this motherfucker is right in the groove, so you can have really excellent posture.
03:14:17.000It puts less of a load on your lower back, and you could really fucking stack up with some heavy weight.
03:14:22.000You can do some cool stuff with it, too.
03:16:33.000I've only done Helium in Portland, which is fucking outstanding, and Helium in Philly, which is one of the best clubs the world has ever known.
03:16:41.000I'm doing their club in St. Louis June 9th, 10th, and 11th, so get your tickets.
03:18:57.000So he's all about breaking up scar tissue, stretching yourself out, making sure that you're strong in all these different areas so that you don't create these vulnerable spots.