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00:00:53.000Man, the first time it came was the first time I did ayahuasca, and I saw this bear, and it was wrapped up in all these chains, and it was struggling against these, like, gold chains.
00:03:38.000I mean, whether or not you ever meet one or whether or not one exists in a physical state where you could drag it in front of the National Enquirer photographers and get some good shots of it.
00:03:55.000And are you seeing them because you did mushrooms and you're hallucinating?
00:04:00.000Or are you seeing them because we've created this archetype that plugs into the imagination easily?
00:04:07.000And connects you to this thing, this imaginary world, or this world that...
00:04:14.000See, I don't even like the word imaginary.
00:04:16.000Because every time I've done a psychedelic, I don't like that word imaginary.
00:04:20.000Because to me it seems like it's some sort of a frequency that you're tuning into where a real world exists that you can't bring back anything physical from.
00:04:34.000It's entirely possible that what we think of as these gray aliens, they're almost like a frequency of the universe that you can tune into, whether you're on psychedelics or whether you're dreaming, which is, of course, your brain producing its own psychedelics.
00:04:51.000Your brain produces dimethyltryptamine while you're sleeping.
00:04:54.000So these things that we think of as being all these imaginary things, like Aliens or bears that talk to you or...
00:07:27.000There's no way you're ever going to solve.
00:07:29.000No one's going to say, oh, we figured out exactly what's happening when you're tripping on mushrooms, and here is what it is.
00:07:36.000And this is why you see these things, and this is what those things actually are, and this is the part of your brain that creates them, and they're absolutely not real.
00:07:46.000Yeah, well, there's the materialist reductionist point of view, like something that Sam Harris could explain very well.
00:07:51.000All right, when you take psilocybin, the default mode network of your brain gets starves of blood, which starves it of oxygen, which downregulates it, allowing the other parts of your brain to come forward.
00:08:11.000And the experiencing itself, this is, I mean, if you've heard me say this before, but this is kind of important.
00:08:16.000The experience is exactly the same, whether or not it's in a physical form, or whether or not it's something that happens to you while you're tripping.
00:08:24.000Like, if you have a trip, and during that trip, you meet a golden serpent that explains the universe to you, and it explains that Every single person is in fact a representation of what we think of as love.
00:08:40.000Love or a god or creativity or some divine force that is pushing forward improvement and innovation and that that is the reason why life today is so much different than it was 30 years ago or 30 years before that or 300 years before that it will constantly keep improving and it is the way of the universe.
00:09:01.000If you have that in a psychedelic trip, it's exactly the same as if it happens to you.
00:09:07.000If you go to a field and a dragon rises out of a marsh and confronts you with all of the problems of your personality and all the mysteries of the past and gives you an understanding and a blueprint for how to move forward with your life and then goes back in the swamp,
00:09:25.000it's exactly the same as if you're tripping.
00:10:17.000That feels kind of like random, like you're just shaking up some dice and throwing it.
00:10:21.000This stuff comes to you in a way that just leaves a significant impact.
00:10:25.000Yeah, and the scientific reductionist point of view is really important because we really do need to understand what's the chemical process that's going on in the brain when you consume, you know, whatever, peyote, whatever it is.
00:10:38.000I mean, it's fascinating and it's important for research and it's important that science keeps moving forward, the greater and greater understanding of the mind, but...
00:10:47.000You can't discount what is happening as a human, as a person, as an entity with consciousness, what's happening during that experience.
00:11:21.000You'll go to these ayahuasca retreats, you'll have 20 people, and seven of them will talk to God.
00:11:26.000That's the same dude they're describing.
00:11:28.000It doesn't matter what religion background they come from.
00:11:30.000You hadn't pre-discussed what this notion is.
00:11:33.000It's like the wisdom that comes through from that element, source, or whatever you want to call it, God, or If you talk to Mother Earth, the wisdom is all consistent, and it's weird that way.
00:11:43.000You never hear something like, man, that's strange.
00:11:46.000It's really contradictory to what he told me.
00:11:49.000I would like to see some people given DMT, preferably the way Strassman does it.
00:12:32.000The idea that I'm looking at you through my eyes, we're making noises with our faces, and somehow or another we're translating this back and forth to each other through this thing, which is a microphone which works in a way that neither you nor I can describe to anybody.
00:12:46.000It goes through these wires, and it's going wirelessly out into people's phones.
00:12:51.000I mean, these people that are streaming it right now, live, with their phone, in their car, driving around, 4G, LTE. The fucking world is slippery as shit.
00:13:14.000Yeah, there was an article about that recently, about how primate brains are sort of predisposed to being able to adapt incredibly quickly.
00:13:22.000And that sort of makes sense if you look at the wide variety of cultures throughout the world and what they think is normal, what they accept, like those women in Africa that have those giant plates in their lips.
00:13:47.000The primate brain is pre-adapted to face potentially any situation.
00:13:51.000It's a really interesting article, and I'm not going to do a good job of it without someone reading it, but that's the title of it.
00:13:58.000It's on phys.org, phys.org, and the title is The Primate Brain is Pre-Adapted to Face Potentially Any Situation, and it just talks about how your brain Sort of calculates potential outcomes and all these different variables that could possibly take place.
00:14:15.000So when it moves into that direction, it starts to set the landscape.
00:14:19.000Well, you look at how we developed and you look at something like the genetic bottleneck theory where these big cataclysms would happen, dramatically reduce the human population.
00:14:27.000You're dealing with these macro changes on a global level.
00:14:30.000Well, the most flexible and adaptive are going to survive.
00:14:33.000The stubborn asses are like, nope, I'm not leaving my forest.
00:15:02.000Like, I told you, and I know you rented a place there recently, too.
00:15:06.000I've rented a place in Malibu for a while on the beach.
00:15:09.000And I'm like, what the fuck kind of place is this?
00:15:12.000Like, you're just banking that something that's constantly changing and moving and growing is going to stick around long enough for your investment to pan out.
00:16:23.000And in the daytime, it looks so amazing.
00:16:27.000It's so beautiful and blue and lovely and you see the birds and the waves are so gentle and inviting but at nighttime in the dark it becomes a monster a giant dark black uncaring beast that will swallow you whole and not give a fuck It's absorbed a billion people before you.
00:17:01.000If you could get a high-rise, and that high-rise could hit the edge of an alternative galaxy.
00:17:08.000It's like if you could climb on top of your roof and throw rocks into the event horizon of a black hole and it would disappear into another galaxy.
00:19:22.000I had Remy Warren on, who's a great guy, and he has a television show called Apex Predator.
00:19:29.000And one of his Apex Predator episodes, in his show, he's a hunter, and he used to be on this show called Solo Hunter, where he would go by himself with a bunch of cameras and just go deep, deep into the woods and hunt, and capture this experience in this really remote forest in a really cool way,
00:19:49.000because it was literally just him, Survivorman-style, With a few cameras set up and hunting and then cooking the food and eating it and heading back and running into some like weird difficulties and dangers and strange animals while he's out there too.
00:20:01.000But he did an episode on octopus and he came in and was talking to us about it and it fucking blew my mind.
00:20:55.000But eventually he jams his hand back in there, pulls the octopus out, and when he was fighting with the octopus on the surface, the octopus knew to go for his airway.
00:21:05.000It kept wrapping its tentacles around his mouth and his nose as he was trying to get this thing off his head.
00:21:46.000But that's, you know, that's, again, that bias of all of the things.
00:21:50.000Like, if people say, oh, no, this animal's too intelligent to eat, but they're a pescatarian, well, they're probably eating the fuck out of some octopus.
00:23:24.000Because I know a lot of vegans that are absolutely nutritionally deficient.
00:23:30.000They're not getting enough vitamin D. They're not getting enough D3. They're not getting enough B12. They're definitely not getting enough essential fatty acids unless they're scooping coconut oil and almond butter into their mouth every day.
00:24:04.000So your whole cause of why you're not eating them gets a little blurry when you start to think, all right, well, plants are smart as shit, and mollusks are mollusks, and they're probably equivalent.
00:24:15.000Just one has the ability to move slightly more than the other one.
00:24:19.000Yeah, the movement thing is something that we cling to.
00:24:22.000What we essentially cling to is things that are closest to us.
00:24:25.000Like, we really don't give a fuck about fish.
00:24:28.000Like, we're worried about people killing all the fish in the ocean, we're worried about the depletion of the ocean, but when a little kid catches a fish, you go and look at the Instagram page, there's no hate.
00:25:52.000But apparently there's a documentary about a wolf, and ironically enough, it's called The Black Wolf, and there was a black wolf that apparently wasn't following any of the rules.
00:26:02.000And this wolf would go across the highway, away from the rest of the pack, and lure the women over to him.
00:26:10.000And he was banging these women, and female wolves, obviously, not women, human.
00:26:44.000It's interesting because, you know, in all of these ayahuasca trips and all of these things, I've talked to animals of all kinds of variety.
00:26:52.000And again, this could be just pure imagination.
00:26:54.000But in that, you know, they always have lessons or things that we discuss.
00:26:59.000Common themes is the amount of free will that the animal has.
00:27:03.000So when I talk to the insects, and you don't talk to one insect, you talk to the insect overmind.
00:27:08.000Again, this could all just be my imagination, but it helps me understand things a bit.
00:27:11.000You talk to the insect overmind, and the insects say, basically, we are like the trash keepers of the world.
00:27:32.000We're perfect creatures acting in perfect accordance with the laws of nature to allow it to happen.
00:27:38.000Where you get these things like the automatons, like the digger wasps that No matter how much you fuck with things, they'll try to do the same thing over and over again.
00:27:45.000Well, really, that's perfect because it's doing absolutely what it must.
00:27:49.000And then you go on up the chain towards the mammals, and there gets to be greater and greater access to free will.
00:27:55.000So you talk to, like I've talked to dolphins, and dolphin spirit was like super happy, playful, and they said, you know, dolphins are one of the best existences of all because we have...
00:28:45.000Yeah, we were talking about this on the ride when we were in Edmonton, or in Alberta rather, and it was really interesting because we were talking about, was it Ben O'Brien that was telling us about a queen that got stuck in someone's car?
00:29:00.000Yeah, a queen bee that got stuck in a car.
00:29:02.000A queen bee got stuck in someone's car and the colony followed them for like 20 miles, some insane amount of distance.
00:29:11.000And, you know, this guy was just getting fucking followed by bees and couldn't figure out what the hell was going on.
00:31:55.000But when they use those things, it's really, it's that, that's only one aspect of one of the things that's problematic about large-scale collecting of food.
00:32:15.000Yeah, this is like something like if you had a small farm you would do, but anything that's in there is getting chewed up.
00:32:22.000And one of the things about fawns, it's really unfortunate, but fawns, when they're young, they will lie down in these fields and they don't move because they can't outrun any predators.
00:32:34.000So their strategy is to just not move and hope something doesn't find them.
00:34:00.000So that's when I was in bear camp, that's what I needed to get straight, is what my intentions were.
00:34:06.000If I was going after to hunt a bear so I would be cool and Cam would think I was cool and everybody in the hunting party would be like, yeah, well that was the wrong intention for me.
00:34:25.000Well, to me it was some part meat acquisition.
00:34:27.000I wanted to Have that experience of taking my own meat from the field, which was incredibly powerful for me the first time I hunted.
00:34:34.000And then I wanted to be able to use the code and use the claws for jewelry and really connect with that.
00:34:42.000So if that intention was leading, then it was a correct action for me.
00:34:46.000If that intention was not leading and I was doing it to be cool or doing it because I was nervous or any other way, then it was an immoral act for me.
00:34:53.000And that's to me how I just kind of sorted it out.
00:34:55.000So I was able to get to that comfortable place where I knew that if the bear came, the right boar came, I was going to do it for the right intention.
00:35:04.000Because I'd worked through all of the other forces and pressures, that desire to be cool or the desire for this or all these other reasons that would have made that act not cool.
00:35:13.000I worked through those as best I could.
00:35:16.000And so I knew if the bear came, I was comfortable killing it.
00:35:18.000I had no idea in my head that this was the wrong thing because my intentions were right.
00:35:45.000They even go into dens and pull them out of dens and kill them.
00:35:50.000There's a lot of debate as to why they do that.
00:35:53.000The initial thought was that it brings the female back into estrus and that the bear can breed with the female and that way that bear is passing on his genetics.
00:36:02.000But there's some scientists, some biologists, some wildlife biologists that believe they're just doing it for meat.
00:36:09.000There's a lot of competition out there, and it's hard to get meat, and this is meat, and they've become accustomed to it.
00:36:15.000Whether they're doing it because they're hungry, or whether they're doing it because they want the female to survive or come back into heat and breed again, either way, they're killing cubs.
00:36:26.000And they're limiting the DNA. They're limiting the genetics.
00:36:30.000And it's not good for the overall population of the bears.
00:36:34.000So the idea is when you kill the large male boars, that what you're doing is you're actually enhancing the genetics of the area and you're saving the cubs.
00:36:45.000So even though it seems counterintuitive, when you kill boars, you're actually increasing the population of bears.
00:36:53.000When you look at it outside of the world of hunting, when you don't have all the information at your fingerprints, you have this idea that hunters are like those bad guys in that Wolverine movie that were poisoning the bear.
00:37:55.000You know, one of the stories that Cam told, I think, gave me one of the biggest lessons and takeaways of the trip for me was when he told about there was a mother with her cubs and the cubs were kind of cruising around and then a boar, a big male bear, came in and then killed one of the cubs.
00:38:11.000And I think the mother, like, scared her off, scared off the boar.
00:38:14.000And so there was just a dead cub that she had there.
00:38:17.000And so for a moment, the mother kind of like wanders around and looked like she was like mourning the death of this cub, but just for a moment.
00:38:25.000And then within minutes, you know, seconds, it was eating the cub.
00:38:52.000What's there now is there's meat on the ground that'll feed her and provide, you know, an opportunity for her to live longer and provide for the rest of her cubs.
00:39:00.000So it's a simple decision at that point if we don't carry the traumas of our past with us.
00:39:46.000But this other bear, which was right in the same area...
00:39:49.000It was really interesting because I was very aware of the forest around it and I just looked at the forest around it and the forest was not mourning the death of the bear.
00:40:22.000Ultimately, the forest doesn't weep for the death of the bear, and ultimately, the cosmos won't weep for the death of the earth when the sun explodes.
00:40:30.000You know, like everything will just be in the present.
00:40:32.000And that's where the ease of all the suffering is.
00:40:37.000So much of our own suffering is we're carrying all these dead bodies of the past with us all the time and these expectations of the future.
00:41:03.000It's just constantly moving forward It's one of the things that I find so attractive about wolves and I think many people do they're so romantic in that their their existence is so Vibrant and powerful and so brief, you know, if a wolf is super lucky they get to 10 You know,
00:42:41.000It's part of what they are that we have this intense romantic connection to wolves.
00:42:46.000It's like they have a little bit of us in them.
00:42:48.000They have a little bit of party in them.
00:42:51.000They're howling and shit and having a good old time and they have battles with each other to see who becomes the king.
00:42:59.000Did you see that video recently of these folks who were in Canada and they were driving down the highway and as they were driving they saw these mountain goats running or sheep running away from a wolf and the wolf's chasing them and the wolf tackles the fucking sheep and kills it instantly right in front of them.
00:45:08.000And you just fucking live to the very fullest.
00:45:10.000And we can count those moments that we have as our best moments in life.
00:45:14.000And we can recall maybe dozens of times.
00:45:17.000If we're lucky, there'll be hundreds of times in a normal person's life where they're just totally present, embodied, free, doing exactly what they fucking want to do.
00:45:27.000Yeah, and in a lot of ways, the world that we've constructed, the modern world, with social media and with constantly being inundated with new news stories that have almost nothing to do with you.
00:45:39.000They're on the other side of the world.
00:45:54.000It makes it really difficult to focus on the actual life that you're living.
00:45:57.000I mean, we almost are getting too much data.
00:46:00.000I think that's one element, but I think the more toxic element is the look-at-me element, which is the, here's what I'm doing at this time.
00:47:13.000But when there's a gal like that that has 5 million Instagram followers, and her notifications are constantly coming in, she's checking her likes, and, damn girl, you hot.
00:47:31.000And then, I mean, I would hope that they're well-rounded and they also read books and they also do a lot of other things and they meditate and take yoga and really get in.
00:47:42.000It's highly likely that they just stare at the pictures of their own ass and go back to the gym, you know, for the second time in a day and do deadlifts and just fucking pump that ass up.
00:47:52.000And they're thinking about getting fat injected into it and like...
00:47:55.000Yeah, what people fail to realize is that that in itself is a pressure and that pressure needs a response of equal magnitude in order to balance it.
00:48:04.000It's like all of these people with fame, especially fame that you really didn't work that hard for.
00:48:12.000And kind of just celebrities, pop culture celebrities or Instagram celebrities, have a little bit of a different feel because that athlete knows all the fucking quiet moments.
00:48:22.000Like, Steph Curry knows all of those hundreds of thousands of shots he took when nobody was watching.
00:48:27.000Dribbling around and practicing and practicing.
00:48:30.000So when he gets out there, what he's doing and what he's known for, it makes sense and it's solid.
00:48:37.000But all of a sudden, you have a great ass and the ability to take a decent photo and you've got the reach of five million people.
00:48:43.000I think that amount of pressure really fucks with you and you have to take extreme measures to counteract that and to get yourself back grounded again.
00:48:51.000More time in nature, meditation, float tank, eating weed, whatever you want to do.
00:48:57.000Find that other thing to counteract that.
00:49:00.000Recognize it for what it is and don't just look at the positive aspect of it.
00:49:04.000Look at the negative that it's having.
00:49:06.000Because I think if you don't, we see the effects of that all the time.
00:49:10.000We see the people who are dying of these overdoses that They ostensibly should be happy as fuck, but they're not.
00:49:16.000They haven't dealt with the pressure of fame in a way that's as aggressive as the pressure that it's caused on them.
00:49:22.000Yeah, Robin Williams might not be the best example because we had Bobcat in the other day, and Bobcat was a really good friend of Robin's, and Robin was diagnosed with several illnesses.
00:49:31.000One of them was Parkinson's, but there was another one.
00:49:33.000There was a brain illness that he was diagnosed with.
00:49:37.000Do you remember the name of it, Jamie?
00:49:38.000Lewy body disease, I believe is what it's called.
00:49:41.000Yeah, but it directly affects the way he perceived the world.
00:49:58.000So the pressure, but they're responding to the pressure in a way that's deleterious for their life rather than responding to the pressure being like, man, this is fucked up.
00:50:07.000I got all of these people looking at me.
00:50:34.000I wrote a note earlier because we were talking about depression and I've always wondered if the depression that people see in mass today, there's so much depression that people, I mean, it's a common trait.
00:51:53.000And this guy lives in this incredibly remote area of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
00:52:01.000The Alaskan interior and he he lives in this really small log cabin and He hunts and gathers and that's all he does and he's very smart like he's not a dummy at all and he's been up there He lives with his wife and his he raised children up there and it's really really There's some dark moments in there because they lived like this from the time like when they had children up there and They lost their two-year-old baby in a fucking canoe Like they tipped over,
00:52:31.000you know in a canoe and lost their kid and it's like it's really intense when they revisit the site and leave flowers and it was like 30 years ago and they had several children since then but this moment is still like this intense moment of loss for them when they lost their baby, but this fucking guy Is very happy and very smart and very connected and very articulate.
00:52:55.000And he firmly believes that human beings, when we evolved and developed and were hunter-gatherers, that there's a set of rewards.
00:53:07.000There's reward systems that are set up inside the human body, inside the very being that we embody.
00:53:13.000That don't get met in today's society and it's one of the things that's causing depression One of the things that's causing this funk that people are in is that we're living our lives many of us at least in these very unfulfilling ways where you're going to this office with artificial light and you're doing something you don't want to do all day long and then you get home and you're tired and on top of that you're eating shit and You're eating potato chips,
00:53:37.000and you're drinking soda, and your body is just like, what in the fuck is this?
00:53:41.000We're supposed to be out in the fields.
00:53:43.000We're supposed to be walking up hills.
00:53:45.000We're supposed to be looking for animals or gathering vegetables.
00:53:48.000We're supposed to be doing all these things that our body's designed to do.
00:53:56.000Like, it literally is a medicine to you.
00:53:59.000Like, people that go, you don't have to go hunting, you don't have to go fishing, just go fucking hike, man.
00:54:04.000Just go hike up to the top of a mountain and look out.
00:54:07.000You know, there's a reward that you get from that that is intensely, like, soul-filling.
00:54:13.000There's, like, something about, like, when I was in Colorado, And there was this area of Boulder where you drive up one of these roads and there was this area where you could park.
00:54:54.000Suffering is something created by our own minds.
00:54:58.000And I think nature is one of the great ways to do this.
00:55:00.000Because humans, we learn, we take cues from our environment.
00:55:04.000And nature, as I was saying earlier, is always in the present.
00:55:07.000You know, there's this natural presentness of all the animals, everything around you.
00:55:11.000Whereas if you get around a bunch of people watching Housewives and stressed about this and popping pills, you're going to take on that energy too.
00:55:17.000And you're going to lose your presentness because...
00:55:48.000Everything's relatively easy and it's all about advancement and all this.
00:55:52.000We've lost a lot of the basic mission, which was the mission to survive and procreate.
00:55:56.000And we haven't replaced it with any other universal mission, which is, I think, one of the big allures of These things like wars and these things like creating an enemy.
00:56:05.000Well, at least then you have a mission.
00:56:07.000And when you have a mission, human beings are happy.
00:56:09.000You know, like Bertrand Russell talked about, he did the book Conquest of Happiness, and he had his own fucked up attributes.
00:56:15.000Every time I bring him up, people talk about his fucked upness.
00:56:18.000He was into phrenology and he might have been a racist.
00:56:20.000Whatever, but he was a good philosopher.
00:56:23.000But anyways, he talked about the happiest person he knew.
00:56:27.000The happiest person he could find was a groundskeeper on a manor who every day woke up and was at war with the rabbits of the grounds.
00:56:34.000He just declared that the rabbits were the fucking enemy and he would go out with his gun and he would hunt as many as possible and he would go morning till night and he would kill as many rabbits as he could because the rabbits were the ones eating the hedges and the flowers and whatever.
00:56:48.000So he basically made the rabbits his enemy and struck out every single day to kill as many rabbits as possible.
00:56:53.000And that dude, according to Bertrand Russell, was happy as fuck.
00:57:47.000He would go crazy and he would jump up and try to grab a lizard and occasionally he would get one and he'd be like, fuck yeah!
00:57:53.000And he would get one and they would go looking for another one.
00:57:55.000And it was a pretty big yard, so he would go wandering around the yard looking for anything else that fucked up, anything else that was slipping.
00:58:02.000Unfortunately, twice I had to take him to the hospital because he got bit by rattlesnakes.
00:58:06.000Because rattlesnakes were slipping too, apparently.
00:58:09.000He killed the rattlesnakes, but the rattlesnakes fucked him up.
00:58:12.000He had like a water balloon growing out of the side of his head.
01:00:05.000And then I'm depressed because I've lost my purpose.
01:00:07.000It's very hard to rise above, like literally, when something like that happens and realize like, oh, you're encountering one diseased individual.
01:00:15.000You've got to look at the mass of humanity.
01:00:18.000Like, when you encounter one diseased individual, it's so, like, this guy who shot up that nightclub in Orlando, you're looking at one diseased individual.
01:00:27.000And if you say, man, people fucking suck, look at what they did.
01:00:31.000Well, look at how many people that are responding with rainbows on their Twitter pages and love and all the best wishes to those folks that got killed and all that.
01:00:39.000I mean, I was looking at this guy's There's a lot.
01:01:52.000You know, it's like this real impulse to sort of batten down the hatches.
01:01:56.000When really it's just some fucking 36-year-old loser sitting in his parents' basement, you know, farting and smelling his own farts and angry online.
01:02:04.000I mean, that's really what a lot of you're dealing with.
01:02:42.000Even if you look at the U.S. penal system, it's very much about punishment.
01:02:45.000Whereas if you watch that documentary that Michael Moore did, Who to Invade Nest, where they go to Norway, they have a whole different idea of what the penal system is for.
01:03:27.000You know, the right impulse is always that compassion and looking to see as if that was you, how all of these fucked up elements of the world and choices.
01:03:35.000I'm not overriding the fact that they had choices in all this.
01:03:41.000This is the person that just made some bad choices and had some tough shit to deal with and couldn't overcome it.
01:03:47.000The resistance in the video game was higher than his skill set and he wasn't able to choose to work and choose the positive elements that would allow him to overcome it.
01:03:58.000It's also Norway's dealing with far fewer people.
01:04:21.000I mean, like, when anyone does anything wrong online, the amount of people that feel like it's their job to shame that person and embarrass that person and insult that person, it's pretty crazy to watch when something goes down.
01:04:33.000It's all so counterproductive, you know, and I see that in the people shaming people for appropriation, right?
01:04:40.000So let's say, for example, someone wears a headdress at a fucking festival, right?
01:04:44.000They're probably mildly, they're not doing it to mock the Native Americans, most likely.
01:04:48.000It's probably like a mild appreciation and interest.
01:05:19.000We'll create trauma and that trauma will have a poisonous impact that will make them feel weird and make them want to do that to other people.
01:05:27.000So it's like you're injecting someone with a hate virus that they're going to then pass on to other people rather than doing the opposite.
01:05:36.000Spreading the love herpes where it's this contagious positivity that goes the other way.
01:05:40.000And we have those choices with how to deal with people, but more often than not we come With this thing to punish and create more trauma, which triggers their own self-judge and their own self-hate, lowers their own self-love, and then they're gonna pass that off to kids, family members, people around them.
01:05:56.000You know, there's just two sets of dominoes that we can choose to take either path.
01:06:01.000And the concept of culture appropriation is so stupid because culture itself is bullshit.
01:06:07.000Culture itself is just a bunch of shit that people have done over and over again as a habit.
01:06:11.000So your idea that no one should appropriate someone's other bullshit habits is so fucking ridiculous.
01:06:17.000Like, you shouldn't wear your hair like that because other dummies have been wearing their hair like that for a hundred years.
01:06:32.000And it's just one of those things that Michael Shermer likes to call virtue signaling, where you see someone who's doing something and in chastising them, you're not just trying to stop them from doing it.
01:06:45.000You're also letting the world know how ethical and how moral you are.
01:06:49.000So you get a lot of really goofy fucking white people who get mad at other white people for doing things that they deem to be cultural appropriation.
01:06:57.000It's one thing if you're deeply embedded and rooted in that culture.
01:07:02.000What is that thing that Hindu people put on their forehead when they're in love?
01:08:38.000Like, you want to talk about it and say, like, this is what worked for me.
01:08:41.000This is, hey, how can you, you know, how can you improve yourself, too?
01:08:45.000Well, ironically, that's what people believe.
01:08:47.000The biblical scholars who have studied the connection between psychedelics and ancient religions, I'd say, believe where it all went wrong is that they tried to hold back these psychedelic rituals and hide them from conquering armies and That's what John Marco Allegro believed that Christianity was really initially all about.
01:09:05.000It was about writing down these things in the Bible in parables and hiding them in these stories, and that these stories were to mask it from the conquerors, from being conquered by the Roman army.
01:09:17.000Yeah, and then really the opposite is what they needed.
01:09:20.000They needed to share this, open source it as widely as possible.
01:09:23.000So you look at that period, it's riddled with war and atrocities and all this fucked up stuff that's happened.
01:09:29.000It's in the human record and in the archaeological record.
01:09:35.000Then you go take the counterpoint of that to a culture, ancient Chavin in Peru, which archaeologically has been shown that for 700 years there was no records of war in this region around Chavin.
01:09:46.000And Chavin were the curators of Huachuma, the plant medicine which enhances serotonin, a very heart-opening medicine that I've talked about here on this podcast.
01:10:49.000Yeah, it only makes sense that if you want the world that you live in to be a better place, you've got to tell people the things that have made your life better.
01:11:01.000And the things that made your life fucked up.
01:11:24.000Be in, like, some sort of an invisible cone of protection and just sit down in a village, you know, in ancient days and somewhere in a really populated area of the world, whether it's Greece or Rome or wherever, and just try to take in what these fucking people were doing,
01:11:48.000I think we can look at ancient cultures and ancient societies and see, if we look back and see all their weird, crazy stories and traditions and the way they sort of established their government and we look at what we're doing now,
01:12:04.000And if you sort of extrapolate deep into the future, like, these are all, this is just, it's not that long ago.
01:12:13.000And there's obviously some sort of a process going on.
01:12:16.000Some sort of a process of improvement and of innovation in some sort of a weird way.
01:12:21.000Innovation of culture and society and communication.
01:12:24.000And I think that's one of the things that we're dealing with now, with this age of information and all the The data that we have to sift through and all the communication that we have to sift through.
01:13:18.000Yeah, and still we're in this weird transitional period that I think we all can notice because truth hasn't percolated down to the rest of society.
01:13:50.000It's like when you go from switching from McDonald's to starting to eat healthy and drinking kale shakes, the body doesn't respond instantly.
01:13:58.000You know, you have to be patient with the body.
01:13:59.000Like, it's not just because you change your mind.
01:14:18.000Everything is going to bubble up through the body and you're going to have this massive detoxification period where you actually feel worse than if you had just continued to eat McDonald's all the time because the body is going to go through the process of re-acclimating to a new way.
01:14:32.000I think we're in a little bit of that stage now where truth has come out in a lot of different ways.
01:14:37.000Aspects of things, but it hasn't percolated all the way through.
01:14:40.000So we're going through this kind of societal detox where we haven't applied the knowledge that is there readily available.
01:14:47.000I have feelings on that too where I think that a lot of this resistance to new knowledge, new information, and even the resistance to freedom.
01:14:55.000Like the marijuana laws and a lot of things that we deeply deeply disagree with that this is all in some sort of a way Fueling change that the resistance actually fires people up and makes them more motivated to move forward It actually it actually strengthens the resolve of the resistance to know that there's so much ignorance out there in the world like when some slob like Chris Christie starts going on about nonsense Saying how dangerous marijuana is.
01:15:23.000Meanwhile, he's clearly abusing the fuck out of his meat vehicle.
01:15:27.000I mean, that guy, if anybody should not talk about health and consequences of negative actions, it's someone who's morbidly obese, who's already gone through fucking stomach surgery and still morbidly obese.
01:15:41.000But that guy, whether he knows it or not, through his ignorant statements, has fueled a massive amount of resistance.
01:15:48.000There's people that have, like, fucking...
01:15:50.000Double down on their resolve because of the stupid shit that he said.
01:15:53.000And it actually fuels things in a positive way.
01:15:56.000And in a horrible way, even a mass killing of gay people, like what happened to Orlando.
01:16:05.000But ultimately, that's not going to stop people from being gay.
01:16:09.000What it's going to do is it's going to fuel all the people like you and me, who have nothing but love and acceptance for everybody, regardless of your sexual persuasion.
01:16:18.000To double down on that and to get that out more.
01:16:21.000And that's where all the people on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook and all the social media posts about love and respect and not giving a fuck.
01:16:30.000I've seen I don't know how many fucking memes from that bit that I did about those two reasons to hate gay marriage.
01:16:38.000You know, you're either dumb or you're secretly worried that dicks are delicious.
01:16:42.000That is fucking all over the place after one of these things happen.
01:16:46.000That and then a million other ones like it and a million other rainbows and hearts in the shape of a rainbow.
01:16:53.000And it's people doubled down on their acceptance, doubled down the resolve.
01:16:57.000And there might be some people that were on the fence that might have had some negative ideas about gay people and see all this and go, man, you can't fucking kill people in a nightclub just because they're gay.
01:17:38.000Like, why would anybody care if you love somebody and then you wind up touching your body with them and pleasuring each other?
01:17:45.000Like, to some people, that becomes this taboo worthy of violence.
01:17:50.000That's a nonsense point of view that is highlighted by horrific acts, and these horrific acts, as horrible and despicable as they are, in fact fuel people to be more open and more understanding.
01:18:04.000It's like the more you push back, the more the resistance grows.
01:18:08.000Yeah, and that's a point that you always fall back on that's absolutely 100%.
01:18:15.000These things that, you know, in any video game, you need resistance in order to test your skills and improve.
01:18:21.000In a weight room, you need gravity and the additional weights to stress your body so that you respond.
01:18:26.000And that's the same case with all of these elements.
01:18:29.000We underestimate the value of resistance, and that's a great constant reminder.
01:18:34.000Like, yeah, there's a lot of fucked up things that happen, but that resistance will allow us to cultivate our own consciousness and our own love In a much greater way than if it wasn't there.
01:18:45.000And so in a lot of ways, to really grow, you have to seek out resistance in your own life.
01:18:52.000It'll come naturally in society, but put yourself up against your own fears to grow and put yourself up against it.
01:18:59.000And when these things do happen, they are great natural things that you can rally behind and then bring forth your best attributes and best aspects because that's what allows us to grow.
01:19:44.000We live in a society that loves to take choice from us and say, all right, everything is a disease, everything is privilege, everything is this thing.
01:19:52.000You know, you really didn't have a choice because there were these preconceived conditions.
01:19:57.000And really, it's robbing us of choice because if we accept our inherent superpower, which is choice, then we have responsibility for who we are.
01:20:04.000And if we have responsibility for who we are, all of us have such a harsh self-judge that every failing we have, if we say, well, it was up to us, the judge just beats us to death about it.
01:20:15.000So we'd rather shrug our responsibility and go with our hands up to the judge.
01:20:53.000It's like we're all going to have come to the place we are through any variety of channels, and it's going to be an imperfect path no matter what.
01:21:01.000So continue to pound that own message of self-love and forgiveness, and then re-harness that element of choice so that we can then decide what we want to be, who we want to be, what we want to go, and put our intent forth.
01:21:15.000And yeah, maybe not everything is possible, but what better thing to do than to Fail in the cause of your greatest wish and your greatest intention, your greatest desire.
01:21:25.000I mean, that's the ultimate warrior's death.
01:21:27.000That's what they would talk about with Valhalla.
01:21:28.000To find an enemy worthy enough to kill me in battle.
01:22:23.000I mean, in some sort of a weird narcissistic way, you could look at it this way that those people are there to teach you.
01:22:28.000This is the consequences of not feeling that awful feeling when you fail.
01:22:33.000Well, that comes from the ego being so fragile.
01:22:36.000Their ego is so fragile that they can't accept the fact that they may have not done a good job.
01:22:42.000So they will manufacture ideas in their heads so that they did a good job no matter what because their ego can't take the truth of the blow like, man, you fucking bombed out there.
01:22:52.000So it comes from insecurity and fragility, and then they create this ridiculous story in their head about what it is because they can't withstand that truth.
01:23:02.000Because ultimately, I think it all comes from the same thing, this lack of self-love, that lack of ability to be like, man, I fucking shit the bed, and I'm okay.
01:23:57.000So he's able to take that feeling, but at a certain point, he'll be able to have a beer, drink, or dinner, and just laugh about it.
01:24:05.000And he's not going to carry that trauma forever.
01:24:08.000It's just like, Feel it like fuck I could almost had it and that's healthy But then it ultimately you have to have that moment of forgiveness.
01:24:15.000Of course Well, that's the beauty of being a comic as opposed to being a fighter because a comic can have that moment and just the next night go on stage and I'm sure he killed Yeah, where he was killing like he's a super self-critical guy.
01:24:28.000So whatever the bad moment at the very end was probably just Fairly You know Like, less funny than normal.
01:25:09.000That's a little engine that when he's thinking about, like, when he's at the top of the hill, and he's like, this has got to be the last sprint.
01:25:16.000That engine will be like, wrong, bitch!
01:25:17.000Michael Bisping knocked you out and he mocked you.
01:25:21.000And then we'll get right back to the bottom of that hill and hopefully he won't blow his joints out and break his body with that kind of motivation because that also can happen to people where their motivation sort of outpushes the physical capacity of their meat vehicle.
01:25:37.000You've got to be real careful with that.
01:25:39.000But that, even though it seems like a terrible thing that happened to him, it's not just a good thing for him, it's a good thing for all martial artists.
01:26:14.000Another kook, Carlos Castaneda, he had a great quote that, for the ordinary person, everything is a blessing or a curse, but for the warrior, there are only challenges.
01:26:31.000Is he going to respond like GSP did when he got knocked out by Matt Serra and revolutionize his fighting style and become the legend that we know him today?
01:26:41.000Yeah, maybe the old GSP was more exciting, but it carried way more risk.
01:26:44.000So he adapted and he became better and he became this indomitable force.
01:26:49.000See, I don't even think the regular GSP was more exciting.
01:26:51.000You know, exciting to me is a weird term.
01:26:55.000Like, when I look at the GSP that destroyed BJ Penn or John Fitch, that motherfucker was pretty goddamn exciting.
01:27:34.000But you think that because you beat Chris Weidman, you destroyed Lyoto Machida, you beat the fuck out of all these people, and you strangled Bisping the first time you met him, you're like, there's no way this guy's going to beat me.
01:28:25.000Well, you can surf some baby-ass waves, some two-foot waves on a sand bottom, and you're not going to get in flow state.
01:28:31.000You're just going to be kind of paddling and cruising around.
01:28:33.000But you surf that gnarly fucking double overhead on a coral reef bottom, fuck yeah, you're in flow state, let alone what Laird Hamilton is doing, surfing those monsters.
01:29:01.000But yeah, these people that are doing really exciting, really dangerous things, they carry with them the consequences of those really exciting, really dangerous things.
01:29:11.000Like, occasionally you're going to fail.
01:29:13.000And when you fail, it is important to know that you can fail.
01:29:16.000It's important to know that no matter how much you have mastered whatever you're trying to do, there are consequences to every zig and zag.
01:30:11.000And then another story where he's trying to build this tunnel under a mountain, and he sends a letter to the mountain, has his emissaries go out to announce this letter to the mountain, saying to the mountain, Mountain, if you give us any trouble, I will move you piece by piece into the sea.
01:30:33.000He's been fed his own bullshit so much that he thinks he's the god and he plays that role and then he runs into 300 bad motherfuckers at the hot gates at Thermopylae and they just wipe out half of his forces because he can't fucking see beyond it.
01:30:49.000And there's so many ways that ego does that.
01:30:51.000It either inflates you or it makes you too fragile.
01:30:54.000And that's really, if you're going to be good at anything, you're going to have to come and confront that.
01:31:15.000You have all of this bestowed upon you for...
01:31:18.000Some mysterious combination of luck and timing and looks and whatever.
01:31:23.000But royalty is the weirdest example of it.
01:31:25.000You know, I was at Disneyland a few weeks back with my family.
01:31:29.000And I was talking to this guy that works there.
01:31:31.000And he was talking about this five-year-old boy who was a prince from some Middle Eastern country.
01:31:38.000And he came here with this huge group of guardians and watchers or whatever it was.
01:31:44.000But they were all at his beck and call.
01:31:47.000And so this five-year-old was telling all these adults what he wanted, when he wanted it, what he wanted done, and they all just scrambled and ran over.
01:31:55.000And he was saying like it was so bizarre watching all these people terrified at the wrath.
01:32:01.000Terrifying of the wrath of a five-year-old boy and that this five-year-old boy wielded just fucking supernatural power.
01:33:54.000So they have no problem beating the shit out of you.
01:33:58.000I remember one time, they bought us all paintball guns, and I remember one of my older stepbrothers just laid in wait behind a wall like this.
01:34:08.000We were on the property, and he just could hear me coming and just shot me point blank in the fucking face.
01:34:14.000This paintball gun just lit me up, you know?
01:34:17.000And that's the thing, like, obviously at the time I was not happy about it, but this, you learn things about the world and you get like a different toughness that comes from that form of resistance that if I didn't have that, I wouldn't be nearly the balanced person I was, you know, I am now.
01:34:32.000And I'm not, fuck, I'm not perfect or balanced or anything, but that certainly fucking helped.
01:34:36.000Yeah, I think competition is good for that too.
01:34:39.000Failure, losing, especially individual one-on-one type competition where you realize the consequences of not working hard and you run into someone who has worked hard.
01:34:49.000I remember in my competing days, I had a chance to see some...
01:34:54.000When I was 19, I went to the Olympic Training Center, and there was the World Cup in Colorado Springs, and I got to see the best of the world compete.
01:35:04.000And I remember seeing this insanely high level, and it was one of the most important things as far as my development as a competitor, seeing the top of the food chain, seeing the best guys, and realizing...
01:35:20.000And I was realizing, like, I'm not nearly as dedicated as these people are.
01:35:25.000I have to ramp it up, like, in a big, big, big fucking way.
01:35:29.000And seeing that and comparing yourself against other people's efforts and realizing that you fall short is so critical for people.
01:35:37.000It's so critical to realize, like, oh, that guy would fuck me up.
01:35:43.000Because if you're that five-year-old prince, that five-year-old prince probably has no idea that someone could beat his ass.
01:35:48.000He probably just thinks he just gets to yell at you and you have to get on your knees and start bowing and lowering your head.
01:35:55.000And if you don't experience other people's efforts, if you don't experience like...
01:36:03.000A real competition where you see people pushing themselves as far as they can to try to win, like a race, where you see the last few meters of the race, where guys, you could see it in their face, the fucking struggle.
01:36:19.000If you never do that, if you never do that, if you never push to that very edge of physical capacity, then you don't really understand what's out there.
01:36:30.000It's like one of the reasons why people who have never had any martial arts experience at all or don't know how to fight at all get so weird around confrontation with men.
01:36:40.000I mean, how many times have you been around men who don't know how to fight, but all of a sudden they get a few drinks in them and they start yelling at people and talking crazy shit.
01:36:52.000And so they're almost inviting their own doom.
01:36:55.000They're almost like sending out a bat signal for someone to punch them in the face.
01:36:59.000It's almost like a subconscious thing where they want someone to kick their ass because they kind of know that they're so unbalanced in their approach.
01:38:07.000Oh my God, I didn't think that that consequence of my actions was even a fucking feasible possibility.
01:38:13.000Like that moment of like, oh shit, this other dude may punch me if I fucking do this again and be that disrespectful.
01:38:20.000It was like, you know, for him, he had surrounded himself with other people in this environment where just having respect for somebody and the consequences for repeated disrespect might actually be there was like a world-changing moment for him where he looked up like, Oh,
01:39:52.000And it may come from the fact that, particularly skateboarders, they're constantly getting persecuted by lame-ass authority figures telling them not to skate on their fucking handrails.
01:40:01.000Some banker comes up, don't skate on my handrails, kid, you fucking punk.
01:40:06.000So they're constantly being chased around by people who are dummies.
01:40:09.000And so maybe it develops this kind of like...
01:40:32.000Like I've seen some crazy stunts on YouTube where these dudes jump on top of these reelings and slide them to the bottom and fuck up and plow into people.
01:43:16.000And he shows up, like, no chip on his shoulder, no, like, he comes in wearing silly little shorts and a fanny pack and just a big old smile on his face and a silly fucking mustache.
01:43:29.000But then he has that switch, you know, obviously where...
01:43:34.000He can do whatever, access whatever that place is, that fucking wolf heart.
01:43:38.000Is this a new post of his, Jamie, that you put up?
01:43:41.000It says, my friends and I are just kicking back, waiting for the call when we can fight these bastards the way we need to and not go to jail.
01:44:19.000And the thing that you can really appreciate is the truth of it.
01:44:23.000It cuts all the way through to the core.
01:44:25.000The people that you shake them a little bit and some other person emerges and you shake them again like a fucking magic eight ball and they got another thing that's going to come out.
01:44:34.000Those are the people that are the worst.
01:44:38.000If you shake him again, it's a little slightly angrier Tim.
01:44:40.000It's the same fucking guy and that's always a beautiful thing when you see it.
01:44:44.000People who've dealt with those deeper things, they've reconciled all these forces that, you know, you're not going to put them in a situation where this other person emerges and you're like, what the fuck is this selfish piece of shit guy, you know?
01:44:56.000Yeah, and this is also something that we were talking about earlier when you were talking about people like the camaraderie and the craziness of going to war that they actually enjoy it and become happy there in some sort of a weird way because life becomes real.
01:45:12.000Because life becomes real in this chaotic moment.
01:45:32.000And one of the things they got into was these people that went over to Iraq and Afghanistan and served, and they would come back and talk about it.
01:45:41.000And they said, it was horrific, it was chaotic, it was scary, but it was the happiest days of my life.
01:45:46.000And one of the reasons why it was the happiest days of their life was this intense bond and camaraderie that they had developed with these other people that they were serving with.
01:45:56.000There's no sort of closeness and bond of brotherhood that even comes close to the bond of brotherhood when you need to rely on these people and they rely on you for your very life and you're taking other people's lives.
01:46:11.000Yeah, I think that's a huge missing piece in our society.
01:46:14.000And I think a few people get to access it on sports teams and on different, you know, and obviously in war.
01:46:20.000But I think, you know, that tribal element of going through these shared rites of passages and going through these things that bonded a group together so that you really had true altruistic love for I think that's a deep calling that we've kind of ignored.
01:46:37.000Those soldiers would truly fight and die for each other, which is the epitome of altruism.
01:46:44.000It's wanting the other person's good even at the cost of your own.
01:46:48.000And that's a feeling that I think feels inherently the best.
01:46:52.000It's our natural state to be this, like the sun of love, you know, like just pouring it out and not deciding who gets it, but truly feeling that way about a group of people.
01:47:02.000And I think there's, you know, as we develop, I think that's, you know, one of the concepts that I'm always talking about is recreating some kind of tribal element where you do go through these rites of passage and doesn't have to involve war, which is inherently...
01:47:16.000An unsustainable and unnecessary practice.
01:47:19.000But how do you create that same closeness, but do it through ritual, do it through, you know, going and climbing this mountain and taking this psychedelic, however you want to do it, you know, in a way that can bond you together with the group.
01:47:31.000So you have those feelings where there's nothing you're holding back.
01:49:43.000That's something that's really deeply moving and powerful.
01:49:46.000And to have that, you need to have that force of resistance that you're all allied against.
01:49:52.000So you're all banded together against that other thing.
01:49:56.000And it's just choosing a thing that is truly worthy of your fight.
01:50:01.000So choosing to fight against something that's not just another people or another race or all the stupid things that we choose to fight against, but choosing to fight against something truly worthy of that fight.
01:50:12.000Yeah, and this thing to them, to these soldiers, was this concept of the enemy being a truly evil force.
01:50:22.000Whether it's ISIS or whether it's anything else, these guys were all united against it.
01:50:27.000And to have Tim Kennedy as this person who's like a figurehead representing them and win by knockout in a military base.
01:50:35.000In such a spectacular fashion on television and understanding all the weight behind all that because there are cameras.
01:51:00.000You know, like history, especially like history of Rome, which I'm most familiar with, there was always these moments in time, you know, where a leader would naturally emerge like that, for whatever reason.
01:51:11.000And then it always made the emperors really squirrely, because at any point in time, that person could all of a sudden be like, Yep, my army now, bitch.
01:51:42.000We need someone who understands the realities and the consequences of what these people in these hallowed halls of justice are trying to pull off all throughout the world.
01:51:53.000Instead of having these old chicken hawks, they're sitting in these...
01:51:59.000It was one of the best quotes from the documentary on Hunter S. Thompson, where he was talking to, it wasn't Ed Muskie, it was McGovern.
01:52:12.000And McGovern was saying, I'm sick of old men in air-conditioned buildings sending young men to go off and die in war.
01:52:22.000And that's really one of the most despicable aspects of the decision-making process by quote-unquote leaders, is that their consequences are so minimal.
01:52:33.000I mean, if every single politician and leader had to be at the head of the army, had to go to the fray, had to be on the front lines, how many actual wars would we get into?
01:52:48.000Or serve, let's say they weren't capable of fighting, but at least they would have to serve at the frontline hospital.
01:52:54.000So that every person, like for a week, you're at the front lines, you're just a nurse assistant.
01:52:59.000So everybody coming back blown up, shrapnel, can you pass this message to my sweetheart?
01:53:51.000It's one of the main problems with war and with leadership is that the people that are in charge at the very top in a lot of ways are behaving like that five-year-old boy at Disneyland who's a prince.
01:54:03.000They have too much power with no consequences.
01:54:05.000They have too much power that essentially they haven't really earned.
01:54:09.000You know, when you got a guy like Jocko Willink who was A real military hero who was over there commanding.
01:54:18.000When that guy talks about the military or talks about war or talks about actions, the respect is not...
01:54:35.000Dick Cheney starts talking about military actions.
01:54:38.000You're dealing with some fucking weird detachment from the reality and consequences of war from a guy who, during the Iraq invasion, a lot of the times was in a bunker.
01:55:31.000And the nature of war is, I don't think we're, obviously, with post-traumatic stress being such an epidemic that it is now, we're not adequately dealing with that element of things.
01:55:43.000I mean, it's an incredibly traumatic aspect of, we're not prepared for death can come at any moment unseen.
01:55:53.000All right, there's the barbarian horde.
01:55:54.000They're going to run with their pointy thing, and I'm going to have time to run at them with my pointy thing, and that's when death might come.
01:56:02.000But death's not going to come from this random explosion that happens.
01:56:06.000Every car could be a bomb, all of this.
01:56:09.000It's this crazy time that we're in, and we have to really pay attention to what that's doing to the humans and use the best technology available to fix that.
01:56:17.000And I think, obviously, Rick Doblin, who's been on here a few times, is on the forefront of that Yeah.
01:56:21.000But we're just looking at the whole thing completely wrong.
01:56:24.000You know, we have old ideas, bad ideas, bad leaders.
01:56:27.000And it's again that thing where truth is there.
01:56:29.000We understand that there's this epidemic.
01:56:31.000We understand here's some possible ways to fix it, but it hasn't percolated all the way through.
01:56:36.000So we're in this transition period that's, you know, it's ugly right now in a lot of ways.
01:57:12.000He posted a whole video the other day about some dude who was arguing against the flat earth or for the flat earth in the weirdest way possible.
01:57:20.000But what I was talking about before that I don't know if I articulated it so well is that when you look at our culture and look at society and then you think back to the time of Xerxes and all the crazy shit that was going on, Thousand years ago or two thousand years ago.
01:57:38.000No, it's not it seems like it is it seems like it is but like When I was listening to Dan Carlin's hardcore history and he was talking about world war world war one And he does this amazing, I think it's a five-part series on World War I. And it sinks in like,
01:57:56.000Jesus Christ, that was a hundred years ago.
01:58:27.000And then you take it back it out to, you know, some of Graham Hancock's theories that he puts out in Magicians, which seem to make a lot of sense, that we'd reached heightened states before and gotten kind of wiped out and restarted.
01:58:44.000With Randall Carlson's evidence, with the two of them together, they really sort of both provided the missing pieces that each other need.
01:58:51.000And if you've never heard those podcasts, they're some of my all-time favorite podcasts.
01:58:56.000The Randall Carlson ones, and the Graham Hancock ones, and the one time that I had the two of them on together, which was just a fucking epic meeting of the minds.
01:59:02.000The world has most likely experienced some cataclysmic disasters, most likely due to asteroid impacts.
01:59:09.000And it was most likely the cause of the end of the Ice Age and also the collapse of whatever civilization was available then and the rebirth of what we're seeing now as ancient history.
01:59:22.000So when we look back at things six, seven thousand years ago, we think, wow, this is the dawn of civilization.
02:01:45.000God, it would give so much to see the construction of the pyramids.
02:01:48.000If there was like one time in history, if you could take that sort of a time capsule and go back and watch, for me, it would be ancient Egypt.
02:01:57.000I would want to see how those crazy fuckers were walking around with their wacky goth makeup on and weird golden robes and making those hieroglyphs.
02:02:12.000Or weird era in the development of the human mind and of culture.
02:02:18.000If you think of what they were capable of doing and what they did accomplish over who knows how many, you know, we're sort of going back trying to piece it all together, but one of the things that Graham Hancock and even more importantly John Anthony West, John Anthony West has a new series apparently,
02:02:34.000Magical Egypt 2. I haven't seen it yet, but Magical Egypt 1 is just Fucking mind-blowing when he goes into great detail about the different construction methods from the old kingdom to the new kingdom and that he points out that this is most likely evidence of a different era of construction and not just a different era but different by 10,000 years maybe and that the hieroglyphs on the inside of some of the pyramids Which dictate,
02:03:03.000or rather, which go over and depict the various pharaohs throughout the different stages of Egypt, they go back 30,000 years.
02:03:15.000But what modern Egyptologists choose to do is to say, well, that was all fiction.
02:03:21.000Anything more than 6,000 years ago is just fiction.
02:03:36.000But it's no more crazy to think that they were doing it 30,000 years before that.
02:03:40.000Like, this whole thing is this majestic sort of monument to human innovation in a weird way that's not like what we do now with cement and steel and glass and asphalt roadways and fiber optic cables.
02:03:59.000No, they had some other thing going on.
02:04:03.000And I think Graham makes that kind of a cool point.
02:04:05.000Like, they were building something specifically for permanence.
02:04:32.000And that's kind of an interesting speculative part of Graham's theory, but what seems concrete is that there was these cultures advanced and decided to do it.
02:04:41.000Now, why gets into the speculation, but Gobekli Tepe and Gunung Panang and Indonesia and then Egypt and all of these places.
02:04:51.000And interesting to imagine, you know, if the Flood did kill off most of that civilization, then they kind of just settled in different places in the accounts.
02:04:59.000Just one of the best books, I think, ever written was Magicians.
02:05:03.000And just going into the mindset of, you know, he talks about, they called these people watchers.
02:05:07.000And then some of the watchers, you know, would get a bad reputation because they like sleeping with the local girls.
02:05:12.000So they would be like the bad watchers.
02:05:34.000Could have learned so much about why the ancient Greeks would go to Egypt to learn shit and to engage in psychedelic rituals.
02:05:41.000It's funny that the greatest minds of their time would go specifically to Egypt to engage in these psychedelic rituals and to learn from the Egyptians.
02:05:50.000The greatest minds of our time today will mock psychedelics.
02:05:56.000So few, in terms of mainstream, recognized scholars, will even entertain the possibility that there could be some beneficial aspects to engaging in ritualistic hallucinogenics Well, all of academia is about defending to the death your own structure of information and psychedelics are inherently disruptive and I think people have that knowledge.
02:06:19.000They know like, shit, I may totally rethink all my whole theories and you'll have to confront those demons that you're hiding.
02:06:26.000That which is hidden will come to the surface and that's generally the beauty of this process.
02:06:31.000But if you're defending something, We're good to go.
02:07:01.000It's a manufacturing of that ego, that attachment.
02:07:06.000And so psychedelics are a threat to that.
02:07:08.000If you've been defending something that you don't want to get challenged, it could threaten your position of authority and power, and people are afraid to do it.
02:07:16.000There's no real other reason To have that fear widespread, yeah, there's a time and a place, and it's not for everybody, etc.
02:07:25.000But, you know, really, it's such a powerful tool to access truth.
02:07:43.000But one of the weirder moments in it was when Robert Schock, the geologist from Boston University, and John Anthony West presented this evidence that the Sphinx most likely was far older than 2500 BC because of the erosion in the Sphinx compound that could only be attributed to water.
02:08:04.000Um, against it being water and it being wind and sand, but they just, they don't fly.
02:08:09.000It seems like they're working to try to make that a wind and sand erosion, whereas it's pretty obvious the fissures, the way it's cut into the, I mean, it makes total sense that it was water.
02:08:20.000But the only thing that could make it water would be that it had to be before 9,000 B.C. Because 9,000 B, or 7,000 B.C., 9,000 years ago, one of those.
02:08:32.000Somewhere a lot longer than 2500 BC. And the argument when it was presented to this archaeologist, he was laughing.
02:08:40.000What culture was around 10,000 years ago that could have done this?
02:09:26.000And we definitely don't know what the fuck happened before that.
02:09:29.000Before that, there is a lot of unfilled pieces in that puzzle.
02:09:34.000Yeah, it really is the greatest mystery of all.
02:09:38.000It's like the greatest mystery novel that I've ever read was Graham Hancock's book.
02:09:43.000It's just you're uncovering something that was real and trying to piece together the puzzle.
02:09:47.000And in 20 years, from fingerprints to magicians, all the new evidence that have come has really supported his initial evidence, which was pretty good in fingerprints.
02:09:55.000But then by magicians, it's like fucking overwhelming.
02:09:59.000He was just so openly mocked by a lot of people that didn't want him to be right or didn't want anyone to achieve any sort of notoriety by having some sort of an innovative idea.
02:10:09.000I mean, they pushed back on him so hard.
02:10:12.000But the stuff that Randall Carlson presents...
02:10:15.000Like these various craters that they've uncovered all throughout the world that indicate asteroid impacts as recently as 5,000 years ago and deep into 12,000, 10,000.
02:10:29.000The nuclear glass they found all throughout Asia and Europe that indicates massive meteor impacts somewhere in the neighborhood of 11,000, 12,000 years ago.
02:11:03.000The circumstantial evidence is just mounting and mounting.
02:11:07.000And it's interesting, you know, we hear about these things that are like myths.
02:11:10.000And one of the ones that I saw that I'm not sure if it's true or not, but it's an interesting take on what actually happened to the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, because in the Bible...
02:12:31.000So in his mind, his wrath is like the wrath of God on these people.
02:12:38.000In 2016, with the information that we have, With all the evidence that we have, there are still people that are inclined to go towards some sort of a biblical or, in his case, the Quran version of the reality in which we live in.
02:13:26.000When that type of person would stand up and tell the people, this is because you have angered God and it will come again if you keep doing that.
02:14:21.000I don't know exactly when, but there's several of them there.
02:14:23.000And all the different torture devices that they have.
02:14:26.000So many of which, by the way, involve the genitals.
02:14:28.000Like, I would say at least 40% involve different things, different ways to torture someone.
02:14:33.000Balls and dick and pussy and tits and all this.
02:14:36.000I mean, it's just these ways that they could channel their own perversions into this unarguable point about, you know, this is God, this is what God wants.
02:14:47.000But they're really just pure sadists accessing that sadistic demonic energy.
02:15:51.000And then, you know, the final level is just to really, the great mystics, and even if you go back to Jesus and you go back to the really great mystics, their message truly is that, you know, you don't need us to fix you.
02:16:26.000And that he was the first one to translate the Bible from Latin into German.
02:16:34.000And translate it in a phonetic way, that the people could actually understand what the Word of God was and not have to be a priest, because they were relying upon these priests.
02:16:43.000And not only that, he was also the first one to say that your interpretation of what God meant is essentially up to you.
02:16:52.000Which was just blasphemy to these people that had massive amounts of control.
02:16:57.000I think if you're looking for that one, I think it's called The Prophets of Doom or The Prophet of Doom.
02:17:02.000I think that's the name of the podcast from Carlin on that insane time.
02:17:09.000But it's amazing, amazing to think that, you know, in that sense, you're talking about, like, what was it, the 1400s or something like that?
02:17:58.000They already established one way of behaving, like even the Pope.
02:18:01.000Popes used to have wives, they had armies.
02:18:04.000Like, Popes weren't like this weird feebled guy who sits on a golden throne and has little gay people do Cirque du Soleil dances in front of them like that last asshole.
02:18:33.000Yeah, again, it's the control of power, the control of information rather than the shamanic way, which is always show you, not tell you.
02:18:43.000That's another great way if you're trying to find out who you should go with.
02:18:48.000If someone's busy blabbing their mouth and trying to tell you all of the things that you'll see from an ayahuasca journey or something like that, Tell you all the lessons and give them to you that way.
02:19:37.000And I think any good spirituality system is going to have that in common.
02:19:41.000Isn't it interesting, though, that that's sort of the exception to the rule to find a system or find an individual like a Martin Luther or like someone who steps up and says, no, the whole world should benefit.
02:20:06.000And in many ways, it's like what we were talking about before.
02:20:12.000Almost negativity and evil to bring out the best in people in a response and it almost it sort of takes this horrible control this dictatorship of religion and ideology to Resist in such a powerful way that you change Everything around you because of these people were just like sort of well,
02:20:34.000you know There's the word of God and go with it.
02:20:43.000There'd probably be no resistance to that religion and there would be no sort of rebound effect where people are trying to find their own truth to this and understanding that the negative...
02:20:55.000Attachments that they have to all these religious cults or sex or whatever you want to call them the negative Attachments that we have them are completely unnecessary like they don't have to be there that through what everyone's trying to find Through religion.
02:21:12.000You're trying to find the Word of God.
02:21:14.000You're trying to find ultimate love and wisdom and power and this one individual who's created literally the entire universe or this force has created literally.
02:21:23.000So why is it this guy's trying to fuck my wife?
02:21:26.000And why is it I have to give everybody my gold?
02:21:27.000And how come I can't read the Bible myself?
02:21:29.000How do I have to trust this guy who's trying to fuck my wife and steal my goats?
02:21:44.000And obviously just based entirely on Dan Carlin's podcast, but apparently his influential position in the community was the only thing that kept him alive.
02:21:54.000Anybody else doing the exact same thing he was doing would have been killed by the church.
02:21:59.000The church would have killed people for distributing the word of God in a way that other people could understand.
02:22:19.000How does a system like that take hold and take effect?
02:22:26.000You've talked about the toxoplasma that alters behavior.
02:22:30.000This disease that will alter human behavior or alter mice behavior.
02:22:35.000And we have that disease too, and it's called fear.
02:22:38.000And it is the primary disease that once fear takes a hold of us, once we fear that if we do something wrong, we'll be punished in the most obscene ways.
02:22:48.000You know, look at like a Bosch painting from Italy during the time of all of these inventions of how you were going to be tortured if you went against the will of God.
02:22:56.000And you'll be punished not only for a little while, but eternally.
02:23:01.000Eternal torture and suffering like that's some kind of just punishment for you know having lustful thoughts or whatever but that's what they believe so they inject people with this fear virus and then the fear virus robs them of their own free will robs them of their ability to think so it's like this form of virus that takes hold of somebody and then you allow these atrocities to take hold because fear is within you and in other cases maybe it's the greed virus or some other thing that takes hold but it's It's really like this thing that really limits your ability
02:23:31.000to use rational thought and to harness your own power of choice.
02:23:36.000But fear is that original virus that the religions played so, so well.
02:23:54.000You have to have a healthy respect for the consequences of stepping off of a cliff or the consequences of walking into a bear den with a mom and her cubs.
02:24:48.000Well, then everything else is just twisted up and fucked up and you can't even use your rational mind.
02:24:53.000You can't find the way out because the whole paradigm has been turned on its head and twisted.
02:24:58.000Well, isn't it interesting in that respect then that it seems that the more knowledge we gather, the more information we acquire, the less we have to be fearful of.
02:25:08.000The more we can say, oh, that's not an angry god, that's a meteor.
02:25:12.000And then one day, oh, we'll figure out how to deflect those meteors.
02:25:17.000We don't have to worry about the Ice Age ending or rather a dinosaur killing chunk of iron and stone from the sky slamming into the ocean and killing all of us.
02:25:26.000Because we see those fuckers coming now and we just shoot a net at it and push it off into Jupiter or some shit.
02:25:32.000I mean, this is all information that will slowly but surely eliminate the need for fear.
02:25:38.000And I guess that's probably going to extend to the consequences of injury and death as well.
02:25:47.000I mean, at one point in time, things keep going the way they're going.
02:25:51.000I guarantee if they get to you within a certain amount of time, they're probably going to be able to reanimate you.
02:27:48.000I felt like since you've been practicing archery for a couple years now and you've been really getting into it, that would have been the perfect first archery hunt because it's a controlled environment.
02:28:00.000It's a really high likelihood of success even though we both struck out.
02:28:06.000It's a high likelihood of success and there's a crazy intimate connection that you have with an animal Yeah.
02:28:47.000But they say it's even stronger in that shooting, even just shooting regular bows, like a recurve bow, has an even more visceral connection to the human body.
02:29:01.000And the human mind, you know, what Ted Nugent calls the mystical flight of the arrow, that there's some sort of a weird ancient calling when you do that.
02:30:07.000And it applies to the regular, you know, compound bow.
02:30:11.000But you really feel it when you have the recurve in your hand.
02:30:14.000Just a piece of wood and sinew twisted.
02:30:17.000And you're knocking the arrow and you're just going off instinct.
02:30:20.000Because there's so much more variability.
02:30:22.000It's less, you know, Mechanic it feels like you're just right.
02:30:27.000It's more of like a flow type of thing and it's fun It's fun to do that.
02:30:31.000Well, I always imagine that it's like a lot like playing pool in that You develop a feel for where it's gonna go and you have to do it.
02:30:41.000So what they say that it's one of the most important things about Traditional archery instinctive shooting is you have to shoot hours every day to be really Really accurate, but like if you watch like Olympic recurve shooters, they have a lot of weird shit going on, man.
02:30:56.000They have like a clicker, so they'll pull the arrow back a certain distance and a click will go off because you could have the bow all the way to heat.
02:31:17.000And guys like John Dudley, who was a guy who set up my bow, and he wrote the curriculum for the World Archery Federation, or whatever the fuck it is, and travels all over the world to teach people proper technique and teach people and coach international teams in archery.
02:31:37.000That if you get like a rifle shooter and they shoot like freehand and not resting in something to 100 yards, that archers are actually regularly more accurate at 100 yards with a bow and arrow than someone holding a rifle is.
02:31:57.000Yeah, I mean, with the traditional shooting though, you know, compound bow shooting, if you got a 70 pound bow, it's going to shoot 70 always.
02:32:06.000So that's a variable you don't have to factor.
02:32:08.000Any kind of recurve bow can shoot 20 pounds if you just pull it back a little bit to fucking 65, whatever, depending on how much you can actually bend the limbs of that thing and go.
02:32:19.000So the up and down variability, I mean, side to side you should get pretty accurate.
02:32:23.000You know, just by anchoring and kind of lining that up.
02:32:25.000But the up and down really depends on how far you pull and your breath.
02:32:29.000And your release gets super squirrely, too, because it's in your fingers.
02:32:33.000You don't have a little release thing.
02:32:35.000So you hold on a little tight or you don't let the string flow through your fingers the right way.
02:33:10.000You're starting to move it all the way towards the compound bone.
02:33:13.000At a certain point, might as well just shoot the compound bone if you take all of the feel of that thing out.
02:33:19.000Yeah, and if you look at a compound bow, if you look at someone who's shooting a compound bow, like people, I put a picture of me up from our camp that Ben took when we were there, and one of the things that people have commented on, like, look at that fucking weird thing, like all these pulleys and cables and all these things hanging off of it,
02:33:38.000and the sight and the stabilizer, there's like so much going on.
02:33:55.000Yeah, there's a lot going on on that fucking thing.
02:33:59.000But all those cables and the pulleys and the stabilizer and the adjustable sight that goes up and down depending on distance, but it's so fucking accurate.
02:36:02.000Because you realize that you really are a part of this enormous, almost infinite system.
02:36:08.000Infinite in the terms of if you go down to the macro level or the micro level, you're down to atoms.
02:36:15.000And you're down to subatomic particles and then you expand from there to cells and cell walls and the structure of tissue in the body and then the instincts that come with keeping the body alive and then with a human being language and then the culture and Media that you have absorbed that has given you this distorted idea of what life is what being a human is what being a man is and That music should play when you see your girlfriend.
02:36:45.000There should be a score to your life and that you are enormously important because your ego wants you to survive long enough to shoot your loads into someone and make little baby arteries.
02:36:57.000And all these things, they don't matter when you're in those woods.
02:37:01.000All those things, it's like the woods confront you with this ultimate reality that you are a part of this infinite system.
02:37:10.000And this infinite system, when you really expand upon it, the very planets itself, the very planet, this planet, and all planets themselves, become tiny little subatomic particles in the nature of the universe.
02:37:23.000Yeah, the perspective is so key, and it can be kind of mind-boggling to think about it.
02:37:30.000It's almost like we're lords of our own universe, and our universe is our body.
02:37:35.000Our thoughts can manifest different things.
02:37:37.000Our choices create the environment that we live in.
02:37:40.000You know, it's like we have our own universe, and then we're plugged into this, you know, greater universe that we know all around us, the planet and everything else, and that's plugged into the larger.
02:37:50.000And you start just expanding your perspective, and it just kind of really goes on infinitely.
02:37:56.000You know, like the cell is part of an organ.
02:38:02.000The universe of the liver cell is the liver, and they're one cell in that thing.
02:38:05.000It goes up and down infinitely, and you just get a perspective that everything's gonna be okay no matter what.
02:38:12.000Everybody just fucking relax, enjoy yourself, get back in touch with the monkey, get back in touch with love, and whatever happens, it's gonna be alright.
02:38:21.000There'll be another Earth, there'll be another time, there'll be another opportunity for this thing to go.
02:38:26.000We get so caught up in the minutia of the details of this thing or that thing, It'll be okay.
02:38:31.000If the earth blinks out, you know, some other point in some other time in the vastness of eternity, another fucking awesome earth will come with new awesome animals and it'll be okay.