Joe Rogan Experience #814 - Ari Shaffir
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 58 minutes
Words per Minute
203.81943
Summary
In this episode, the boys discuss Led Zeppelin's early days in America, the early days of rock and roll, and the controversy surrounding Stairway to Heaven. Also, the band's new album "Don't Tell Mom" is out and it's pretty good! Check it out and tweet us if you like it! Timestamps: 1:00 - Who was the first person to play the song? 4:30 - Who stole the original version of "Stairway To Heaven"? 7:40 - What was it like to be in the band Led Zep's first tour 8:00 - What is it like touring with Led Zeppep 9:30 What's it like being in a rock band and playing music 11:20 - Who's the biggest rock star in the history of rock & roll 16:20 - Who is the most underrated rock band of all time 17:40 - Which is the greatest rock band in rock n roll? ) 18:15 - What's the worst rock band you ve ever heard? 19:10 - What s it like going back in time with a rock and rolling band? 21:00- What's next? 22:30- Who's going to be the biggest Rock and Roll band in America? ? 26:10 27:10- Who are the most influential band in the 70s of the 20th century? 28:40- What s the most iconic rock band from the 80s and 90s? 29:00 What s your favorite rock and 30th century rock and heavy metal band you grew up listening to? 31:00 -- Who s your favourite rock and what s your biggest rock and metal icon? 32:30 -- What are you listening to right now? 35:40 -- Who's your favorite song from the 70's and 40th anniversary album? 36:20 -- Who is your favorite group? 37:00-- Who is it? 39:30-- Is it better than the best rock and blues song you ve listened to in the last 5th of your life? 40:00 | Who are you're listening to in this week? 45:00 // 45:30 | Who you think you d like to hear in the first place? 47:30 // Can you keep it on YouTube?
Transcript
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I've been saying that doing a lot of these theaters is like doing a functional museum.
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Apparently, that's like one of the first places that the Led Zeppelin, the Led Zeppelin, you know those, that Led Zeppelin played.
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I don't know if it was the first or one of the first.
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But uh, yeah, man, I mean that is like as Museum like it's floor-to-ceiling too with the pictures all the way over Yeah, it's a big-ass place man So like I mean as far as like it's not that big it's like 450 people But I mean as far as like what it stands for.
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Yeah, there's a few places like that The Chicago theater is definitely like that just walking around that place like whoa Yeah, the look of it.
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Yeah There's a bunch of them that are just so old that it's kind of weird that they let people just fucking run around on stage and tell dick jokes in them.
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See, everybody's like- The first place in Denver?
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1969. Do you know that their lawsuit is going on right now for stealing Stairway to Heaven?
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Bill Burr was the one who turned on to this shit.
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He calls me up and he sends me this YouTube video to listen to.
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Like, dude, I couldn't be a bigger Led Zeppelin fan.
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A whole lot of love is like my get-high-and-sit-back-with-headphone song, you know?
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Because before they played hip-hop on the radio.
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The closest they had, I guess, was Led Zeppelin.
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They were hiding Robert Johnson, stealing all his music.
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Led Zeppelin singer claims foggy memory in Stairway to Heaven lawsuit.
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How's this guy supposed to remember shit 50 years ago?
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But if I stole Stairway to Heaven, I bet I'd fucking remember that.
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Can we play it for us and not have it on the YouTube?
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Or would it just get us pulled from the YouTube?
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So we'll listen to it, and we'll be able to talk to you.
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Wait, is it possible this band was like stole it from Led Zeppelin?
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No, no, apparently it's not because they recorded it several years before they toured with Led Zeppelin.
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Yeah, I think they recorded it like two years before Zeppelin did theirs.
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If this is just like four chords that they play in the middle of the song, oh wow.
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Well, another argument that someone said, they're called Spirit.
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The best of Spirit is just a little bit better.
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But someone said, no, I don't know shit about music, and I know you don't either, right?
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Someone said that the music is like a very commonly used series of chords.
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As I say, there's only three chords in rock and roll.
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I don't know what that means, but there's still a lot of different songs.
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So they said that that has been used in many songs before.
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Once you hit, like, 60, you just pretend you're old as fuck and you don't know what's going on anymore.
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We should have been like, oh, you didn't get pills, man.
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Instead of not believing it was cover-up, we should have been like, oh, he's crying for help.
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He's telling the world he can't remember things.
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They're injecting people's brains with stem cells and fixing all kinds of weird shit that's going wrong.
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It's like having a cancer patient living on your head.
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If you have a flat back, that's the worst kind of head.
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The back of your head just looks like a laptop.
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What you need to do is get one of them, like a head, like a fake butt.
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Well, you could always say, yeah, I was in a motorcycle accident.
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Meanwhile, you just had a butt put in the back of your head, like a fake plate.
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I think they go in through the lip area, or the teeth are, and they shove, like, an implant in your chin.
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Because some people have, like, very small chins.
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Like, their chin is tucked up in their neck, and they feel like it's unattractive.
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Some people don't like joke around about it so they get a piece of plastic screwed into their chin.
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People take it to the next level and then go too long?
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If they can make it feel like a skull back there...
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What if you're banging a girl and she grabs your head and she pops it loose and she thinks she broke your skull?
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Putting a fucking plastic plate on the back of your head is not...
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I guarantee you there's a plastic surgeon out there right now running to a notepad and writing this shit down.
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And he's going to offer it to dudes with flat heads.
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You'll have to convince somebody they have a flat head.
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Did your parents never buy you a pillow until you were old enough to complain?
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Dr. Krickenheimer specializes in making your fucking mutant, alien, rodent-looking head attractive.
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How about those weird ancient cultures that used to flatten heads on purpose?
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They could have fucked with the shape of their head, but they also could have been, like, inbreeding.
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Because apparently, like, Tutankhamen had a series of, like, we'll go to Tutankhamen next, Jamie.
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No, go to these, like, well, you see that guy, the baby up there, where they're stretching the baby's head out?
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See the black and white one right next to that, Jamie?
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That's like, that's an actual baby, where they're distorting this young baby's head while it's soft with pressure by these cords, and they tighten it down.
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And this is modern times, because this is from- It's kind of a dumb head.
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It can totally, like, fuck the shape of your head up forever.
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And then that's what your head's shaped like now.
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Because it's all done when you're a baby and your head is really flexible.
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But if you look at the images of ancient Egypt, like right there, you just clicked on that one.
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They think that that was maybe part of the practice that they were doing to differentiate them from the rest of the people.
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But Tutankhamen apparently had a series of issues.
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They think that he might not have been healthy.
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They grip bigger and bigger, and they can't take them off because they get all wobbly.
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So we're looking at King Tut had feminine hips.
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Farrell suffered from several afflictions because his parents were brother and sister.
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King Tut's list of ailments isn't the result of ancient Egyptian curse.
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The researchers were able to point out a more scientific culprit incest.
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Albert Zink, scientific director of the Institute of Mummies and the Icemen in Italy, used genetic fingerprinting and tests.
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On mitochondrial DNA to determine that King Tut's parents were, without a shadow of a doubt, brother and sister.
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They just ruled out there was an Egyptian curse?
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He had a prominent overbite, pronounced overbite.
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L-O-S-E. You're not supposed to fuck your brother or sister, huh?
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You're not supposed to fuck your brother or sister.
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It's almost like they listen to the protests against them from the far, whatever, liberal.
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It's super hard to imagine someone abandoning their mom like that when they're that much of a pussy.
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Because that's one thing that pussies want, is they want to be around their mommy.
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The only chick who's ever given out the puss to him.
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She's pretty, and she knows the fuck she's doing, and she's got a gay brother, so you know she's a freak.
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Dude, those guys in America killed, all those guys killed their girlfriend's ex-husband or husband, right?
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She stayed like a student in high school and then made the student kill her husband.
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I think she was the one who paid the high school kid to kill her husband.
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Well, people have definitely gotten away with it.
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For every, like, dumb chick who hired two 15-year-olds, there's a smart lady who hired an actual assassin.
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Oh, did you ever go down the Block Dahlia YouTube tools?
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I watched a whole special, one of those crime TV documentaries.
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Like, as they just finish this, you're going to kill my husband then.
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And the way they say it, too, like, I just can't go through the divorce.
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It's almost, like, easier than letting him know, I don't love you anymore.
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For some people, that actually becomes what they want to do instead.
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They're like, I don't want to go through this divorce.
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What if, you know, what if he fucking kicks you out on the street?
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I mean, if you don't care about him at all, then yeah, that's the easier way to go.
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There's just some people out there that are just fucking nuts.
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And if you marry one of those people, and you live with one of those people for a long time, then you try to break up with them, you got a fucking problem.
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You're some lady from Nebraska who just wants to be on her own.
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The clutches of her father held her down when she was young, and now she's got this fucking asshole, this man, that she's like legally obligated, and he says he's gonna kill her if she leaves?
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Dahlia Del Belito, she was calling the guy in afterwards when she found out he was still alive.
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He was almost like, and he's like, I can't help anyway.
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They have you trying to hire someone to kill me.
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When they supposedly find out their husband got killed.
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Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people out there that are getting people whacked are completely fucking insane.
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I wonder if you met them if you would feel that.
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I wonder if you'd feel that vibe if you were talking to them.
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You shut that door and then let it in as if it's new information.
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There's also people that have killed people before, and it gets easier.
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Like that story, Jamie, that you were telling me about, that they suspected some seal stabbed some guy after a fight.
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They got in a fight, and then afterwards, I don't know, to pull the guy's name up, who knows if it's even true.
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Well, they got in a fight, apparently, and then afterwards they arrested him because the guy got stabbed somewhere and died, and they think it might be connected.
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But you gotta imagine, just forget about this story, which I don't know what happened, right?
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But a guy who you teach how to kill people, who you hire to kill people, and order to kill people, is probably used to fucking killing people, right?
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And they might say something crazy, like, I'll fucking kill you, bitch.
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And they say that to a Navy SEAL. And he goes, oh, really?
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And then he waits until you get outside of that building and say, hey, dude, I don't really want you to kill me, so I'm going to kill you.
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But I would assume that if a dude gets super used to killing people and really good at it, that's not the guy to fuck with.
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I'm not going to pull it up, but I just Googled it again.
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Sorry, but I was gonna say, people that get in bar fights, they have a lot of fucking people that hate him.
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The reason, too, of the fight is what they were saying is that he detained him on the pier for allegedly taking pictures of underage girls.
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There might be a lot of people that wanted to kill that guy.
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If you're taking pictures of underage girls, you haven't, like, led an awesome, pristine life, and then one day you're like, you know what, man?
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Did you hear the shit they found at Michael Jackson's place?
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Like a whole underground ranch, like another whole play area for when the apocalypse comes, that kind of thing.
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Or, possibly even, some unreleased tapes of music that you never put out.
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They found a cache of photos of Michael Jackson getting his dick sucked by boys.
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And right next to that cache was one of the best goddamn albums that Michael's ever put out.
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And what if the music company is the ones that found it?
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And they get together, they have a little music meeting.
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Either, everybody assumes that he fucks some kids, but there's no proof.
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And we ruin the legacy of one of the greatest artists of all time.
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Look, we're not gonna save these kids from sucking his dick.
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It would be a greater crime if we didn't release this music to the public.
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They're gonna take food out of the mouths of your children.
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They probably have a furnace going 24-7 at any major record label just in case something like that comes up and they could chuck a hard drive in there.
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They found photos of adult bodies with kids' faces engaged in pornographic acts.
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Because I haven't seen it, and I don't know what's...
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Among the items found were pictures of adult bodies with children's faces superimposed on them, sexy pictures of his nephews in their underwear, pictures of bleeding children and animals, including a photo of a child holding what looks like a goose bludgeoned to death, diaries, audiotapes, videotapes,
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One insider claimed that Michael Jackson had a book called Room to Play, which included a picture of JonBenet Ramsey lookalike with a noose around her neck.
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Whoever that insider is, like, I never trust that when I read that somewhere.
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Yeah, and you can't show the pictures we're talking about because underage stuff.
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But that term, one insider, makes me super skeptical.
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Well, the problem is, like, when you say something like that, one insider, what that tells me is you either don't have enough...
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Ron Zonin, a former Santa Barbara DA, was on the prosecution team, told Radar.
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Well, okay, well that guy, he's saying something.
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Yeah, he's saying a lot of this stuff was used to desensitize the children.
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He added, we identified five different boys who all made allegations of sexual abuse.
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There's not much question in my mind that Michael was guilty of child molestation.
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Yeah, but that's also a guy who can never prove it, so maybe he's still like...
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Dude, this girl's spent like a hundred thousand dollars on surgery to turn herself into a real-life Barbie.
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I've seen at least one television show that had her on.
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They're all saying a person that shape couldn't walk.
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This ruins the purpose of this by them taking these photos with filters.
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Because I could look like Barbie, too, with filters.
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You should show this in a raw, gritty, close-up.
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Now that doesn't look too filtered, but it's definitely filtered, right?
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That's going to be your fucked all of the future.
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That'll be one of the first versions of commercial artificial intelligence.
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I mean, people are already using those fleshlights.
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Dude, they're probably going to figure out a way to make it have actual skin.
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They can reproduce like little things like they've reproduced a person's bladder.
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Or a woman got bladder cancer and they recreated her bladder with stem cells.
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What do you mean they can't use it to make hair?
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But the organ thing, they're going to figure that out too.
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They're going to be able to replace hearts and livers and all kinds of different things and make them all in a lab and then put them in your body.
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But they're definitely going to be able to make a skin.
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Could you feel the heart beating while you're fucking a woman?
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You have to beat a human before they're like, oh no, you can't.
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How much brains and heart would they have to get?
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They have some kind of goofy looking robots, you know, that can mostly just torsos, they talk, and some of the bodies move pretty decent.
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If you just go a hundred years from now, do you have any idea how crazy whatever the fuck they have now is going to be in a hundred years?
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It's going to be impossible for us to imagine because there's inventions that you need to have for the big inventions.
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There's gonna be some leaps in the understanding of the very nature of the universe itself and they're gonna be able to change all sorts of stuff that they do and Life itself is also gonna be on that list.
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They're gonna make it man They're gonna they're gonna make it and even if they make it like a fuck doll that has like a limited brain That it's only good for like fuck activities.
00:28:05.000
Yeah You just come home, and this thing has some sort of an artificial brain that wants to suck dick.
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She just wants to wait for you to fuck the shit out of her.
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And you're looking at your watch like, I can't wait to get home and fuck the shit out of this thing.
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We need to go home and fucking gun people down online.
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I think women are gonna protest the fuck out of those fuck dolls.
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Especially when they give them away with an oil change to get a free fuck doll.
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I wonder if they have like a shelf life in the beginning.
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So some women who don't like dick, is that what you're saying?
00:29:05.000
They should get pounded all night and not have to deal with the guys.
00:29:08.000
Oh, so they would just hire some guy or build a robot for sure.
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It's definitely going to happen for some women.
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They also have a desire for a deep connection with somebody.
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Almost like the same way people who live entirely online are completely socially fucked.
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Michael Jackson had some sort of a sex addiction.
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It's just spooky that that guy was doing that to these kids while he was the biggest star in the world.
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The auditorium for the school is the Michael Jackson Auditorium.
00:30:35.000
At least change to Auditorium ODD. That's Jamie's version of for sure change that.
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Yeah, it's always 100% guilty if they're saying that they have all this stuff.
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The mutilated animals and shit, like, what's, hmm.
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And if people still be like, he did everything but.
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He just liked to cuddle with them at night, didn't do anything creepy to them.
00:31:05.000
He looked at pictures, sure, but that's not actions.
00:31:07.000
Well, if you take a kid's head, here's the thing.
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That might be the only way he could legally possess child pornography.
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That might be the only way he could have legally possessed child pornography, by taking a photo of a kid's head and putting it on an adult's body where two adults are having sex, which is apparently what he did.
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He superimposed the photos or had someone do it.
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That might be like a legal loophole that allows you to watch child porn.
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You'd have to do a really good job of it, but yeah, for sure.
00:31:42.000
I don't know if there's any loopholes for child porn.
00:31:44.000
But it's not child porn, because it's adult porn.
00:31:44.000
No, you just have a picture of a guy, of a little boy's face.
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Because I think I read something recently about...
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It was pretty explicitly saying that even animated child pornography...
00:32:28.000
And I feel like a hypocrite because I've always resisted the pornography equals rape of women idea.
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Just because it doesn't do that to me doesn't mean it can't foster that in somebody.
00:32:43.000
But it's one of those things where like, okay, look, if you eat a whole bottle of aspirin, you could fucking die.
00:32:48.000
Should we only sell aspirin one at a time to prevent death?
00:32:51.000
Should you have to go to the store and buy one aspirin or should I fucking trust you with a hundred aspirin in your house?
00:32:58.000
So that's got to be the same way with porn because for a lot of us, you watch porn, you're just watching two people have sex, you get excited, you jerk off, you feel better, you move on with your life.
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It doesn't foster some fucking need to rape in a normal person.
00:33:12.000
I get more aggressive when I haven't had sex in two weeks.
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There's been an update as of today, since we've been doing podcasts, that say Michael Jackson's estate reached out to Vanity Fair and said everything in these reports, including what the County of Santa Barbara calls content that appears to be obtained off the internet or through unknown sources,
00:33:42.000
And maybe that guy would just tell it to get him.
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It's one website that started reporting all this.
00:33:51.000
I'm going to throw out the evidence of that guy, the former DA, because he's definitely got an axe to grind.
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If you know, if you knew that guy was guilty, And you couldn't do anything about it.
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And you were a former DA. You would fucking go to great lengths.
00:34:16.000
You remember during the Mark Furman days, where they accused Mark Furman of planting evidence?
00:34:27.000
In that documentary, I haven't watched it all yet, but they were saying something about it.
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He showed up with, like, a baseball bat and some crazy shit, and they had to, like, talk him away from having a baseball bat.
00:34:39.000
That night when the three detectives, and he was one of the three that showed up to OJ's house.
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Are you sure you don't have that story screwed up?
00:34:51.000
I thought OJ was looking at him and wouldn't come out of the house because he saw that or something.
00:34:55.000
Oh, so Mark Furman was out of his house with a baseball bat.
00:35:16.000
Mark Furman had to pull out a baton on O.J. Simpson to get him to drop a baseball bat.
00:35:35.000
But the point was, they think that Mark Furman planted evidence, though.
00:35:45.000
That's what the prosecution kept telling the press, for sure.
00:35:56.000
We should both pretend we watched it and talk shit.
00:36:07.000
Let's let it be out for a month before you decide it's the best thing ever.
00:36:10.000
They showed it at Sundance, and everyone watched the whole thing there in its entirety.
00:36:22.000
But if the guy planted evidence, my point was if he knew that OJ did it, right?
00:36:26.000
If OJ had beat up his girlfriend before or his wife before and he had a baseball bat and they had to talk him down and, you know, but he was this football star and everybody kept it under wraps, if he fucking knew that the guy did it, like the guy was like close to doing it a couple of times and never did it like this with the baseball bat, I wonder what that fucking thought process is where I'm just gonna take one of these gloves,
00:36:45.000
dip it in a little bit of blood, and chuck it in his fucking bushes.
00:37:08.000
Because he has big-ass hands, and he just went like that.
00:37:14.000
If you want to put a pair of gloves on, you go like this.
00:37:17.000
If you open your fingers, you're doing them to articulate your fingers into the holes.
00:37:34.000
This is one of the most preposterous moments in history.
00:37:37.000
They interrupted my some sort of sociology class in college and let one of this lady listen on the radio.
00:37:50.000
He's got rubber gloves on underneath and he's pretending he can't get it any further.
00:38:14.000
It looks like he's pretending like he's trying to get them on.
00:38:28.000
Okay, let me see these gloves, OJ. Pull them up.
00:38:37.000
No, it's a big difference if you have a pair of Italian racing gloves.
00:38:43.000
Those Italian racing gloves, they fit right over your skin.
00:38:54.000
Do you think the people who own the glove company were like, can we use this?
00:39:04.000
That would be a great billboard at the time to have Mondavi gloves.
00:39:09.000
Well, that's what Joey Diaz said they were doing in New York after Len Bias died.
00:39:20.000
That's what Joey said about the shit that killed Freddy Soto.
00:39:42.000
If there was a drug that you could buy that killed a guy, like say if there was a guy like Len Bias today and cocaine was legal, and this guy was buying Pepsi cocaine.
00:39:57.000
And if they died, do you think the sales would go up?
00:40:09.000
If you've got Mike's Coke, dude, it's Mike's Coke.
00:40:12.000
Is this the Mike's Coke that killed a basketball player?
00:40:16.000
Dude, if I saw some weed that gave someone a panic attack, I would be like, no, no, no, let me try.
00:40:29.000
And he was like, alright, it was too much for me.
00:40:47.000
Yeah, but you can fucking, you can go on a bad ride.
00:40:56.000
I had crazy dreams about being on slippery rooftops.
00:41:15.000
You're never in your dream like, what am I even doing here?
00:41:21.000
That was every scene in Memento, not Memento, Inception.
00:41:36.000
Yeah, I enjoyed it, but I didn't enjoy it as much as a lot of people enjoyed it.
00:41:46.000
Yeah, well, it's definitely a provocative movie and fucking amazingly well done.
00:41:51.000
But the problem is not even with the movie itself, but with the idea of it.
00:41:58.000
When your reality that you're creating in whatever this dream state that they're putting these people into, right?
00:42:05.000
If the reality they're creating is that convincing, like, how is it any different?
00:42:17.000
Yeah, it's not like, like, if you bought a fake Ferrari.
00:42:27.000
I want to go to the world where I can touch it and know I can put it on a scale.
00:42:41.000
What, you need to be in the real world, you pussy?
00:42:48.000
Yeah, if you could drive a brand new Ferrari, get the smell.
00:42:51.000
Dude, have you ever tried to quit something, like carbs or cigarettes or anything like that?
00:42:55.000
Or even coffee, and you dream about the thing you've quit?
00:42:59.000
I've had dreams about cigarettes, and I wake up with a negative feeling like, fuck!
00:43:04.000
It takes me like 20 or 30 minutes to get the feeling out of me.
00:43:08.000
Like, no, it's just a dream, but the feeling remains.
00:43:10.000
You're a weird one when it comes to this cigarette thing, but you're a weird one in that, you know, when you describe it, you have a very honest way of describing the addiction to cigarettes.
00:43:24.000
You're a smart dude, so you know exactly what's going on.
00:43:27.000
But you know what's going on, like the weirdness of this, the addiction to cigarettes.
00:43:32.000
So when you quit, when you quit and you would talk about this desire, even though you intellectualize the fact that it's stupid.
00:43:39.000
But your way of describing it is very honest in the way that it's like, oh, okay.
00:44:18.000
I was like, you know, this feels fucking right.
00:44:27.000
And then the next day I was like, I want a cigarette.
00:44:30.000
It was right back in, just like you were saying.
00:44:48.000
Just come in for a second, but then you gotta go.
00:45:14.000
Big Jay and his girlfriend started smoking again.
00:45:17.000
They're like, no, we just did it on the weekend in Philly.
00:45:25.000
It's been like a year now they're still smoking.
00:45:28.000
You know, they say that nicotine has nootropic properties to it, just like alpha brain or neuro one or something like that.
00:45:38.000
It means it's like a mental stimulant in the sense of...
00:45:42.000
...increases memory, increases cognitive function.
00:45:52.000
Because of Joey Diaz, I'll get one of those blue cigarette things and I'll suck on them before a show.
00:46:00.000
No, it's not nicotine that you have to worry about.
00:46:16.000
And then sometimes I like to suck on them before a show.
00:46:28.000
Well, I smoked a cigarette the other day with Doug Stanhope.
00:46:31.000
Yeah, I didn't smoke a cigarette, but I took a hit of his cigarette.
00:46:34.000
And I took a hit of Tony Hinchcliffe's cigarette once before I went on stage, too.
00:46:47.000
Yeah, because if you don't smoke and you take a hit off of a cigarette, it definitely gives you like a weird little buzz.
00:46:55.000
But I think there's also some sort of stimulating factor of all those different chemicals the FDA kindly allows them to put into that shit.
00:47:06.000
One of it is smoking of the cigarette, like the nicotine in that form is apparently more addictive in some strange way.
00:47:16.000
Maybe it's because the delivery method is more powerful and potent.
00:47:21.000
Did you see that Insider movie with Russell Crowe?
00:47:28.000
Because you've got to have your ducks in a row when you make a goddamn expose movie with Russell Crowe about the cigarette industry.
00:47:36.000
I mean, otherwise it wouldn't be available anymore.
00:47:38.000
They would remove it from iTunes and all that shit.
00:47:40.000
But it's essentially, Russell Crowe, if you haven't seen it, is a super scientist that they have engineered these cigarettes to make them more addictive.
00:47:49.000
And they go to his house, and they scare him, and they threaten him, and all this shit.
00:47:57.000
There are a bunch of different chemicals, like hundreds of them, that they allow these companies to put into cigarettes that alter the flavor profile and all sorts of other different things they do, but it also makes them more addictive.
00:48:09.000
And he outlines them in the movie and explains how they engineered it.
00:48:13.000
So that's why when you're taking a hit off those things, it's different than a cigar or different than a lot of other ways that you're getting tobacco.
00:48:53.000
Well, I know for a fact that caffeine is pretty fucking addictive.
00:48:59.000
Yeah, you have withdrawal symptoms of caffeine.
00:49:00.000
If you get headaches when you quit, that's not like you quit seat cushions.
00:49:05.000
I was going way too hard at one point in time writing.
00:49:09.000
Where I would make a pot of fucking coffee and I would down that shit at like 9 p.m.
00:49:16.000
and write till 5, 6 o'clock in the morning just jacked out of my mind on coffee.
00:49:21.000
And when I tried to quit that, I had a problem.
00:49:29.000
My body was like, you're going to have to deal with a ridiculous amount of stimulants over the course of seven hours.
00:49:37.000
And then once I shut the fucking fun farm down, they were like, hey, where's all I fucking...
00:49:54.000
I'll never drink more than a couple of cups a day.
00:49:57.000
But I thought it was bad for you at one point in time, which has also been debunked.
00:50:05.000
And caffeine in the form of coffee is not necessarily bad for you either, but it's like one of those things where you can fuck it up if you just go too hard.
00:50:14.000
So, like, what I was doing when I was writing, when I was drinking, like, literally pots of that shit.
00:50:20.000
Yeah, I remember you and Tate used to get that late-night Starbucks in Sacramento.
00:50:41.000
Well, there's also a lot of other ways that you can get caffeine.
00:51:03.000
There's a lot of groovy-ass stimulants that you could purchase.
00:51:08.000
Ari Shaffir at the Comedy Store tomorrow night.
00:51:26.000
I have like 80 more seats I don't want to fill up.
00:51:59.000
We stopped in Nashville and then we stopped in Memphis the next night.
00:52:07.000
I would drive until the sun went down and then we would just stop.
00:52:10.000
See, I always think of states like Massachusetts.
00:52:13.000
If you drive 10 hours, you're not in Massachusetts anymore.
00:52:30.000
Like, you did that 1, 2.30 in the morning show that we were talking about.
00:52:38.000
I was like, I'm finding out when I get there, I'm finding out where it's going to be and when.
00:52:55.000
Well, for people who don't understand why he did that, everybody was fucked up on drugs.
00:53:10.000
We fucked up in classification of drugs in this country.
00:53:12.000
Drunk seems as inebriating as any of the other stuff.
00:53:17.000
But somehow or another, we've found ourselves in this position where most people are in denial that they do drugs while they drink.
00:53:23.000
And then you're going to put mushroom and heroin in the same category?
00:53:49.000
He's the first guy to take this stance on this.
00:53:51.000
Where instead of saying, the other side always takes, we've got to protect children.
00:53:56.000
And the only defense against that is, well, it's got benefits to sick people and stuff like that.
00:54:04.000
Trudeau is like, Canada has, I think, top five instances of underage people getting marijuana.
00:54:17.000
Because he goes, look, I think it should be legal, but I also see there's problems with people getting it when they're developing, when their mind is developing.
00:54:23.000
So let's do what we can to keep it out of their hands, which is legalization, regularization.
00:54:31.000
If alcohol was fully illegal and you just get it from mafia guys...
00:54:34.000
14-year-olds will have the same access as 34-year-olds.
00:54:45.000
That 22-year-old's taking a big chance these days.
00:54:55.000
You would wait outside a liquor store and a guy would buy booze for you.
00:55:02.000
20 bucks surcharge, then the price of the whatever?
00:55:05.000
We'll give you 20 bucks if you go and get us a fucking case.
00:55:08.000
We may or may not have used the drive-thrus and they would just give it to us when we were 17, 18 years old.
00:55:28.000
Yeah, it's weird that we have this one drug we give a pass to.
00:55:32.000
And it's the one that's the most destructive to your health.
00:55:39.000
Well, the problem is, it's existed for so long, and it hasn't changed yet, in spite of all we know.
00:55:45.000
So, like, more recently, this Nixon thing came out.
00:55:51.000
That the whole reason why they instituted this war on drugs is to try to break up the civil rights movement and to try to break up the anti-war movement.
00:56:03.000
Because they knew that the people involved in the civil rights movement and the anti-war...
00:56:10.000
The civil rights movement and the anti-war movement were doing marijuana.
00:56:21.000
To break up those organizations by arresting their members for drug-related crimes, locking them up in jail.
00:56:30.000
So it's one of those things where, you know, you hear like an Alex Jones type guy talk about it, you know?
00:56:39.000
Then you see something like this and you go, that is exactly how they operate it.
00:56:42.000
But it's still stuck in your head of like, yeah, but they're different.
00:56:44.000
Well, you know, there was a WikiLeaks thing that Facebook is apparently censoring.
00:56:51.000
That was another one of the things that I wanted to talk to you about, where they're saying that there was all this Hillary Clinton emails that Facebook is censoring that they don't want to get out, that WikiLeaks is trying to print.
00:57:02.000
And then Facebook says we won't let you retweet that?
00:57:04.000
I'm not sure how they stop something like that.
00:57:07.000
I heard about this leak about some Hillary Clinton stuff.
00:57:14.000
Right, but the problem is you have to trust the hacker?
00:57:19.000
That's who you trust because he's never let us down.
00:57:25.000
I'm just saying, his word is, I will put out real shit only.
00:57:30.000
Dear Facebook, stop censoring our Hillary Clinton email release.
00:57:40.000
And WikiLeaks is putting that up on Twitter with a photograph of it.
00:57:48.000
See, the problem is when you're getting something from a guy who hacked into her email server, how is it not possible that he could trick them?
00:57:58.000
He's so fucking smart that he can get into her email server.
00:58:05.000
Like, they got into her email to get this stuff.
00:58:12.000
I mean, someone who could do that can make it look like he did it, too.
00:58:24.000
Yeah, maybe, but there's not the only person that have claimed to have hacked the server either.
00:58:28.000
Russian hackers, as of yesterday, I think I saw, say they're in there right now.
00:58:32.000
So there's a gang of different people who have hacked it.
00:58:35.000
And the issue is she's like, don't worry about it.
00:58:37.000
I have this secret server on my own for no reason.
00:58:42.000
30,322 emails pulled from a private account she was using during her tenure as the Secretary of State.
00:58:49.000
You know, I have this guy in here who was a CIA guy.
00:58:55.000
And he said pretty flat out if he had done any of the things that she did, he'd be in jail.
00:59:02.000
The CIA guy was telling me that if he did any of the things that she did with this email server, she'd be in jail.
00:59:11.000
Yeah, this guy, Mike Baker, very interesting guy.
00:59:16.000
Yeah, they're talking about whether or not they're going to indict her, and it's like, no, the people doing the indicting are her buddies.
00:59:20.000
They're not going to indict her, especially not until after, if she loses, then maybe, but not beforehand.
00:59:25.000
Well, if this is all coming out right now, it looks like she's going to be the nominee for the Democrats, and this is the part at home where people start going.
00:59:33.000
I fucking hate it when you talk about politics because you don't know shit.
00:59:38.000
Leave politics behind and come Thursday night to the Comedy Store at 9pm.
00:59:48.000
This is a terrible time for this stuff to come out because there's no other option.
00:59:55.000
Somehow or another, she would have to be indicted.
00:59:57.000
They would have had to come out a month and a half or two months ago.
00:59:59.000
And they don't know, like, when people look at it, they don't know whether or not Bernie can win.
01:00:04.000
Like, people are pretty sure that Hillary is going to win because you're going to get a lot of women that are going to vote on her just because she's a woman.
01:00:10.000
I thought they said, like, Bernie does better against Trump than Hillary does against Trump.
01:00:25.000
He said, how come you see all this hype for Bernie Sanders and you don't see any hype for Clinton, and yet Clinton still wins these elections?
01:00:34.000
Well, a lot of it is because you had to have changed from an independent to a Democrat like months ago, and then when it's time to vote, you're like, well, I can't vote in the primaries because I'm an independent.
01:00:50.000
So then it's too late for them to vote in the primary.
01:01:00.000
Why do they have to be registered as independent?
01:01:03.000
There was all these people who registered as independent.
01:01:05.000
Some people were Democrat, Republican, Independent.
01:01:07.000
The people who registered as independent couldn't vote in the Democratic primary.
01:01:14.000
So that's one of the reasons why you see more support than he's actually getting.
01:01:17.000
My point was more like, you don't see very, or I don't, very many Hillary bumper stickers and signs and online support.
01:01:30.000
You have to join a Democrat club, and that's how you get to vote in the Democratic primaries.
01:01:43.000
You should be able to go independent slash Democrat.
01:01:45.000
You should be able to do whatever the fuck you want!
01:01:47.000
Most people don't vote in these primaries that have been happening, which is the issue.
01:01:55.000
We're all just voting on who gets the paycheck.
01:01:57.000
But what a better way to control the system by making you have to be a registered member of the party in order to vote in the primaries.
01:02:07.000
Boy, I don't want to keep going if it's not true.
01:02:10.000
It literally matters depending on where you live.
01:02:12.000
But let's say you're a Tea Party guy and you're an independent of that side.
01:02:20.000
If you're like, I would definitely vote for Trump, you couldn't do that either.
01:02:24.000
I think the Tea Party started off with a good idea.
01:02:26.000
But somewhere along the line, the morons took over.
01:02:38.000
Well, it's a historical precedent that they set when they threw the tea into the ocean to protest Great Britain.
01:02:54.000
They let people talk for them that were like, not the people they should've talked for.
01:03:02.000
Sort of like if you're like one of those bitchy housewives and everybody knows you as the bitchy housewife.
01:03:09.000
You gotta throw drinks at bitches' faces, claw their weaves off.
01:03:17.000
It's probably like the sheepdog and the coyote.
01:03:41.000
It just seems like this way has got to fucking melt down in front of our face until we come up with a better way.
01:03:52.000
This is like some colonial, feather-writing, fucking parchment bullshit.
01:03:58.000
The rich people get money from the corporations, and the rich people keep being the ones deciding how the elections go.
01:04:06.000
So they're going to decide to make it a little more favored towards them.
01:04:11.000
And you have to register for a party to vote in the primary.
01:04:21.000
Primaries are like a club that you have to belong to, and that's how you pick presidents.
01:04:26.000
And by the way, when you become a registered Democrat, that's like being a fucking Raiders fan.
01:04:31.000
Why can't I just be like, oh, see what people have to offer?
01:04:33.000
And I'm not saying anything bad about the Raiders.
01:04:46.000
They're so glad they're not coming to LA. So glad.
01:04:57.000
I see another fucking woman dancing in a cage on the ceiling.
01:05:11.000
It's all like, this is how parties seem like they'd be in movies, right?
01:05:20.000
You're handling, I mean, this is, when you're going to these fucking clubs, it's not a surprise why they all have glow sticks.
01:05:31.000
It's this band, but they use the lights so fucking good.
01:05:34.000
They sing that song Daft Punk is playing at my house.
01:05:38.000
They have a couple of minor hits, but man, they blew Pearl Jam out of the water.
01:05:45.000
Yeah, but Jeremiah hasn't ever done any drugs, and he thought LCD Sound System was better, too.
01:05:55.000
You can't really compete with that if you're just someone who plays your hits and you like to talk about politics in between the song and fucking...
01:06:01.000
Fucking Vedder gave like three speeches and he brought his daughter out and made us all sing Happy Birthday to her.
01:06:07.000
The whole Light Show is just them up close playing Happy Birthday to I don't know your goddamn daughter!
01:06:27.000
Dude, half of them coast off their fame, and the other half like, oh, people don't know me here.
01:06:42.000
I saw Bill Burr on that, it was like a Comedy Central year in review kind of thing.
01:06:49.000
He did five minutes there and he was like, okay, you guys aren't my fans yet.
01:06:55.000
Yeah, he was just like, and he just hammered him.
01:06:58.000
No, it was a different one, but Bill was in this politically correct sort of group of people, and they weren't accepting it, and he had a hammer at home.
01:07:13.000
He came on, I was like, this guy is good as shit.
01:07:16.000
I've listened to that CD, whatever you want to call it, album.
01:07:28.000
So his new album, or the album that I have, I think it's only one, I think he only has one out.
01:07:40.000
I told you about the time that Stone Temple Pilots played at Dana White's birthday party.
01:07:50.000
That guy might have been a crazy junkie out of his fucking mind.
01:07:53.000
All sorts of personal problems and all that jazz.
01:07:58.000
Maybe 200, but they were scattered all throughout this.
01:08:01.000
We had to get people to get closer towards the stage and kind of get excited about the fact that's fucking Stone Temple Pilots.
01:08:08.000
That guy could have been in a football stadium filled with people.
01:08:48.000
Okay, I thought maybe the video I definitely had but the sound was so loud.
01:08:53.000
It was it was useless Oh, right cuz it was my shitty iPhone video, you know, it's like six years ago to six years ago You can't replicate that kind of sound into an iPhone when you're there at the thing.
01:09:02.000
It was just noise You couldn't even understand what the fuck it was saying, but My point being that guy was awesome.
01:09:11.000
He went for it more than you could ever have hoped He just fucking cranked it out.
01:09:28.000
I saw Smashing Pumpkins at Rockin' the Rage one year.
01:09:36.000
It's just Billy Corgan, and then he gets a fucking Asian bass player and a fucking female blonde, whatever the fuck she plays.
01:09:47.000
He might even be like, I'm just making things up now.
01:10:01.000
And then you see a band go for it, and you're like, oh, right, yeah.
01:10:10.000
Well, that's, you know, I've probably said that too.
01:10:21.000
If that was a video of an actual body slam, that would be a video for sure to watch.
01:10:41.000
He was dating Courtney Love before she put out that banging album.
01:10:51.000
He got a hold of her, and then Gavin Rossio got a hold of her, too.
01:11:14.000
That does sound wrong now that I think about it.
01:11:16.000
Well, she definitely was banging Ed Norton before he was the Hulk.
01:11:24.000
Just throwing around thrift stores in Philadelphia.
01:11:27.000
When she was at her height, she was such a wreck.
01:11:32.000
You see that documentary that thinks that she had Kurt Cobain killed with the recreations?
01:11:38.000
It was like, I can't trust a movie with recreations.
01:11:42.000
You don't know what was said, and you're just reproducing it.
01:11:44.000
What possibly could have happened was, he went over to her.
01:11:52.000
She claimed on an interview on Howard Stern that she had an affair with him.
01:12:02.000
I don't think he helped her with that album, though.
01:12:06.000
How about you Google things first before you accuse Ari of being wrong?
01:12:16.000
Went and played Hey Jude into the crowd and went around.
01:12:26.000
Just get really into the stuff you make if it's good.
01:12:28.000
Some rockers, after a while, they just get beaten down by the pressure and fans and negativity and all that jazz.
01:12:36.000
And then the intoxicating sound of the true lovers of your work.
01:12:42.000
They pull you in and lavish you with praise and get your face tattooed on their ass.
01:12:48.000
Next thing you know, you start producing good stuff.
01:13:00.000
I was like, I guarantee you, a band that's like that for 25 years, they're gonna kill it.
01:13:08.000
Apparently, Mick Jagger is still a bad motherfucker.
01:13:13.000
He does, like, yoga and lifts weights and does all kinds of crazy shit to keep his body in shape so he can fucking bang it out for, like, an hour and a half show.
01:13:25.000
The guy from Iron Maiden runs around the whole time.
01:14:00.000
Above 70. 72. There's a video of them at last year in concert.
01:14:07.000
When you watch him, I'm telling you, man, for a guy who's...
01:14:14.000
He looks like that gay phase that he went through with, what's his name, that just died?
01:14:58.000
Apparently, he's just a fanatic about working out.
01:15:08.000
When people say he works out every day, that's also an exaggeration for it.
01:15:13.000
Yeah, I don't think working out every day is smart.
01:15:20.000
I think your body responds better when you give it little breaks.
01:15:26.000
But I think what is also important is you build up a certain level, like with a Mick Jagger, and then you maintain that.
01:15:33.000
That's very critical that you maintain that level.
01:15:44.000
Also, your bones start to break in the heel, right?
01:15:47.000
This guy on the podcast earlier, Shane Dorian, big wave surfer, great guy, really interesting dude.
01:15:55.000
He's 43. He took five months off of working out because he was busy traveling and then tried to go back in with a light workout.
01:16:09.000
Remember that Married Children where Peggy got a personal trainer?
01:16:18.000
This is supposedly his workout routine he does.
01:16:25.000
Leading up to a tour, Mick Jagger runs eight miles a day, including sprints.
01:16:35.000
This would explain his ability to sing and move continuously during a concert without sounding short of breath.
01:16:42.000
He does some resistant training to maintain his balance and his posture.
01:16:45.000
He takes ballet lessons and performs yoga and Pilates.
01:16:50.000
On stage, I did not witness any hesitancy in his movements, and he still moves with a certain amount of fluidity, grace, and efficiency.
01:16:57.000
He's been known to cover 12 miles on stage while he's dancing and strutting.
01:17:16.000
It says at that pace he'd be able to do a marathon in just under four hours.
01:17:44.000
This thing even says, I find this hard to believe, though for a two hour concert it means he's moving at least six miles an hour when he clearly doesn't run the entire show.
01:17:59.000
So we don't know about all the rest of that stuff either.
01:18:05.000
Remember that Bigfoot documentary we saw, but then it showed like intentionally stuff that was disproven?
01:18:19.000
Oh yeah, it was like a lot of different conspiracies, right?
01:18:30.000
They think that's a big-ass fish, like a sturgeon.
01:18:37.000
Yeah, there's a bunch of different explanations.
01:18:39.000
Some people think it might be some sort of a giant landlocked catfish.
01:18:49.000
It's just massive, and there's big boats on it, you know?
01:18:57.000
It's that guy, he's this English dude, travels all over the world and catches fish.
01:19:02.000
Like crazy fucking giant piranhas and lionfish, fish with giant ass fucking crazy teeth.
01:19:15.000
Do you remember the stuff in Maryland where somebody brought it back from China?
01:19:17.000
There was a snakefish and it could come out of ponds and go on land for a while to find another pond.
01:19:28.000
Anyway, there was an animal in Lake Champlain and they would call it a champ.
01:19:34.000
It's like some sort of another kind of dinosaur thing.
01:19:40.000
And so they're pretty sure that that's what it is.
01:19:48.000
And so they had a video of a sturgeon swimming through the water that they took from a drone or a helicopter or something from above it.
01:20:22.000
Look at the size of this goddamn dinosaur he caught.
01:20:29.000
And by the way, that's not even like the biggest one ever caught.
01:20:45.000
So if it was dark out and you saw it in the water and you were in a boat, you would shit your pants and say there was a monster in that water.
01:20:51.000
So if that thing exists and he caught that, it's super possible there could be something that's super similar to that.
01:21:02.000
Like, dude, I'm telling you this thing was massive.
01:21:04.000
And then you went to the bathroom and you just spread that.
01:21:08.000
But it definitely could be, you see, something like that.
01:21:23.000
I think a world record halibut's like 300 pounds or something crazy.
01:21:28.000
I've seen people catch 100-pound ones on TV, and they have to pull it into the boat, and it's just like, what?
01:21:44.000
It may be the biggest Pacific halibut ever caught.
01:21:47.000
Back up to the one that was the biggest one, that one that...
01:21:50.000
Yeah, go to the visit the page, see what the fuck it says.
01:22:07.000
Those are things you have to fish for like two hours, right?
01:22:09.000
You have to keep them on the line and keep wearing them down and wearing them down.
01:22:14.000
I never caught anything that big, but I caught a Marlin once.
01:22:20.000
That was a fun fishing trip when we went up there.
01:22:24.000
The time before, it was like five, six years before that, or ten years before or something, I don't know, whatever.
01:22:29.000
We went salmon fishing, then we went halibut fishing, but the water was too choppy because of the wind, so we couldn't sink the line all the way to the bottom.
01:22:38.000
Halibut is the best tasting, though, in my opinion.
01:22:40.000
Yeah, when you bake halibut with some butter and a little bit of garlic.
01:22:51.000
I mean, I think the fish that are in the ocean are more hardy, and I think they're more durable, too.
01:23:00.000
This doesn't make any sense, but this is what I'm saying.
01:23:02.000
The difference in the taste between catching them and cooking them on the shore, like a trout or something like that, versus a tuna.
01:23:11.000
You could cook it a couple hours later and it'll still be alright.
01:23:14.000
That's what I heard about those rainbow trout and stuff like that.
01:23:22.000
Rainbow trout tastes really good if you cook it right on the shore.
01:23:25.000
If you catch it and then you cook it right on the shore.
01:23:52.000
And you're doing it all like in a cast iron frying pan overlooking a river.
01:24:27.000
Yeah, dude, if we go out of the way enough, we could find nobody around us.
01:24:32.000
Killing that DEET all over us and just fucking enjoy ourselves.
01:24:43.000
Hey, would you ever do that catfish hunting where you just fucking shove your fist down and pull one up?
01:24:49.000
Those guys fuck up sometimes and get a snapping turtle.
01:24:58.000
There's a certain type that they call a muscalunge.
01:25:33.000
Now imagine if that was as big as a cow flying through the air.
01:25:42.000
Look how big his mouth is in comparison to his body, too.
01:25:49.000
That frog, his little reptile brain can't fuck with a mammal brain.
01:25:59.000
If there were flying mammals back in the day, thank God our ancestors wiped all those fuckheads off the planet.
01:26:06.000
But they let only things live that we could kill with our hands.
01:26:12.000
Like, an eagle might be able to kill you, but I like my chances.
01:26:45.000
He just swoops down, grabs the kid, and flies off, and the guy chases after him.
01:26:49.000
And they even went to the ground with the camera.
01:27:08.000
Put a dude in a ghillie suit and have him wander around through the woods, and they filmed it.
01:27:18.000
This tape that we took got lost for about a week with all the hubbub of traveling and stuff.
01:27:39.000
But it was a pretty scary afternoon, I've got to say.
01:27:53.000
Like as if someone would be filming him just sitting there in the sun.
01:28:05.000
But I just love the fact they're filming for no fucking reason.
01:28:11.000
Look, I'm moving around a little so you know it's real.
01:29:13.000
It was big, and it was black, and it was fucking hairy.
01:29:17.000
After all that bullshit about Sasquatch and all that shit.
01:29:26.000
All that bullshit about Sasquatch and all that shit.
01:29:32.000
That's from 1997. He made a Blair Witch Bigfoot movie on his tour bus.
01:29:44.000
Boston people add extra R's that aren't necessary and remove other ones.
01:29:51.000
They don't have to say the word garbage, because that's what they are.
01:29:55.000
But when you perform there, you enjoy them, though, no?
01:29:57.000
They're all right, but the ones that aren't garbage, most of them are garbage.
01:30:05.000
This is a really dumb video, and you can take it down.
01:30:27.000
Jamie's like, dude from Aerosmith, it's not the main guy, can I talk to you about the opportunity?
01:30:34.000
Yeah, we discussed this on the podcast yesterday.
01:30:42.000
I saw him at Apple Store getting my phone fixed back when I had one, and he was just giving a talk there about the movie, just randomly.
01:30:50.000
Oh, he must have edited it on iMovie or something?
01:30:55.000
I was going to ask him when he said he was coming out.
01:31:17.000
He just became a full director like years and years ago, right?
01:31:20.000
Well, he's just a very smart dude and he could kind of do anything he wants.
01:31:34.000
He just has to set his mind to it, then he just does it.
01:31:37.000
It's not shocking to me that he does a horror movie.
01:31:44.000
It's a documentary that he did about Barry Crimmins.
01:31:48.000
Yeah, really influential Boston stand-up comedian, like one of the most important guys in the early days of Boston and was brutally molested when he was a kid by his babysitter's boyfriend.
01:32:00.000
Like, fucked in the ass, like, well, she, like, watched The Door, like that kind of shit.
01:32:10.000
She came down and he's unconscious, like he would shove his head in the couch so he couldn't breathe, like he couldn't scream, and the guy would fuck him and he would like literally black out.
01:32:21.000
From getting fucked with his face and it's a horrific, horrific documentary, but really well done and really fascinating and really open and the way Barry Crimmins talks about like getting over it and you know and and then all the people that love Barry and talk about what a massive influence he had on stand-up in Boston during the early days of Boston and then a lot of people that he knew like all his life did not know about this story.
01:32:47.000
You know, and he wanted to kind of put it out in this documentary form, and it's so well done.
01:33:09.000
The Blackhearts, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts and Lita Ford, had their managers line them up, said, it's time for you guys to become a woman.
01:33:27.000
Their manager fucked them all when they were the Runaways.
01:33:34.000
Yeah, I think it was in some, like, one of those documentaries.
01:33:43.000
It was a real piece of shit manager they had and just...
01:33:45.000
But would you be surprised that, like, some crazy showbiz manager would fuck his clients?
01:33:58.000
And it wasn't like they had a lot of leverage when they were just signing with somebody.
01:34:10.000
Look what's happening with that singer girl's name who wants to get out of her contract.
01:34:17.000
I mean, who knows what the truth is behind that story or what's really going on, but it's kind of a similar thing.
01:34:22.000
Like, her producer was having sex with her, apparently, and she said he raped her.
01:34:30.000
But meanwhile, she's tied into a contract with this dude, so she can't make music unless she makes it with him?
01:34:39.000
Yeah, the judge was in a tough spot on that one.
01:34:45.000
If nothing happens, then you have to honor your contract.
01:34:53.000
So we can't just go on you saying, alleging this, because then everyone would just say, well, rape out of my contract, please.
01:34:59.000
So he's like, unless I have a proof of something, there's nothing I can do by contract law.
01:35:11.000
Yeah, he's definitely denying it, but it's one of those really heinous crimes where you gotta go, how do you find out who the fuck told the truth?
01:35:24.000
Well, especially when women get way upset about it, because it's so hard to prove it.
01:35:29.000
Well, that also sets it up for this thing where you're never supposed to question a victim.
01:35:37.000
Like, you definitely shouldn't automatically question the victim.
01:35:40.000
But if something seems goofy, you should not question the victim.
01:35:45.000
I know people that have had false rape accusations.
01:35:51.000
And everybody at his level is like, we know she's crazy and that's just not a thing.
01:35:59.000
It can happen just like there can be crazy men.
01:36:06.000
There's people that will absolutely fucking make up a story.
01:36:11.000
And the thing is, if you don't know about it, or if you're like, well, how dare you?
01:36:16.000
So it becomes one of those things where it's like the person who is...
01:36:26.000
Yeah, so we're supposed to ignore that victim and Concentrate the problems are based on this idea physical better a thousand men a thousand guilty men go free than one innocent man Go to prison.
01:36:38.000
Yeah, right people don't really like to apply that to rape No, no.
01:36:43.000
Well, it's one of those weird ones that you can't look at it objectively.
01:36:48.000
Yeah, you know these internet maiming mobs they do now?
01:36:52.000
That's in response to women not finding justice through the legal system.
01:36:56.000
So they're like, well, let's just fucking ruin his life.
01:36:59.000
Let's do these things and really fuck up his life.
01:37:05.000
I mean, we know that people have done horrible shit and gotten away with it.
01:37:10.000
And there might be an occasional, like, innocent man or North Carolina lacrosse team, Duke lacrosse team.
01:37:21.000
On her side about, like, you signed a bad contract.
01:37:25.000
Maybe at the beginning of it, you shouldn't have been into that?
01:37:27.000
No, but I don't think the contract has anything to do with her getting raped.
01:37:31.000
That's why she's suing him, because she can't supposedly make music because of the contract she has with that guy.
01:37:36.000
That's why her career is supposedly ruined right now.
01:37:38.000
The record industry has a long history of that, just burying people.
01:37:46.000
She can't leave and make music because he has her under contract, even though she says he raped her.
01:37:53.000
Well, in my interpretation, I thought she was saying that she was raped in order to probably get out of this contract.
01:38:02.000
She's saying she was raped in order to get away from this guy who has her under contract.
01:38:11.000
Not that you shouldn't be bringing up the rape, but if she's making it up, this would be a good thing to make up to get you out of a contract.
01:38:19.000
Yeah, I mean, honestly, if you had an 8-and-8 contract in the UFC, and then some other company offered you $50,000 a fight, but you had a six-fight contract, you'd be like...
01:38:34.000
I don't know what it is you would say to get out of your contract, but you'd have to make up something to get out of it.
01:38:41.000
She's making us up to get out of a shitty contract.
01:38:55.000
You're like, wait, no, wait, that's not what I meant.
01:38:57.000
It's entirely possible that either one of them could not be telling the truth.
01:39:06.000
So all I'm seeing is that she went to court and tried to get free, and they wouldn't let her free.
01:39:12.000
And the guy's still wandering around, so they're not prosecuting him for any sort of sexual offense, right?
01:39:23.000
Yeah, I mean, she's obviously got some sort of a contract with her.
01:39:29.000
If I had a contract with someone and they falsely accused me of rape, I think I'd fucking let them go.
01:39:36.000
I wouldn't want to be tied into a contract with them.
01:39:38.000
But the idea of if in any way, shape, or form she's telling the truth of forcing her to work with somebody.
01:39:57.000
Like, what if you had a contract to do your stand-up?
01:40:00.000
And, like, you had some guy that was, like, a producer that made you go on the road, and you had a pact with him, and he made you do his jokes, and he would help you write your act, and you couldn't do comedy without him.
01:40:18.000
That in the music business happens all the time.
01:40:26.000
He was that show New Girl with whatever his name is.
01:40:31.000
It's been on Fox for about seven or eight years.
01:40:36.000
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
01:40:50.000
And he was like, uh, I don't want to get locked into this thing for seven years.
01:41:00.000
Yeah, and he was sleeping on couches at the time.
01:41:12.000
And what if the direction of the show becomes more corny?
01:41:16.000
If you walk away, you'll never work here again.
01:41:28.000
There were some episodes where it was just unbelievably bad.
01:41:31.000
You feel like you're supposed to have to do it or something?
01:41:35.000
You feel like, you know, you just feel gross when you say these lines because you know they're bad.
01:41:43.000
And you know that the show is bad and you know that this is the exact opposite of the way you feel when you're doing stand-up at a club.
01:41:52.000
Well, when you're doing stand-up at a club, if you're doing your best and it doesn't work out, at least you know you can fix it and you can figure out how to make it funny again.
01:42:00.000
When you're doing these shows and it's bad, they tell you it's good and they make you keep going.
01:42:06.000
Yeah, and they'll put a billboard up there and they'll show you where they've raised in the ratings, but you know it's terrible, so who cares?
01:42:14.000
I worked with this kid who was on the set and she had...
01:42:24.000
She was a nice young fella and a nice young girl that were on the show at one point in time.
01:42:32.000
They had tutors and shit and they could only work a certain amount of hours in a day.
01:42:38.000
Well, I had a conversation with one of them about it.
01:42:40.000
And I was just trying to figure out what's the idea behind it.
01:42:45.000
And they were kind of saying, you've got to strike while the iron is hot.
01:42:49.000
You have an opportunity right now to secure a lot of money.
01:42:59.000
That's just another 50 industries you can work in.
01:43:05.000
Like, okay, chances are, you'll barely ever book anything, and you'll just get filled with this, like, mommy's not proud of me.
01:43:13.000
And by the way, if you've booked two out of 50 things, that's still a really high percentage, which is you're getting rejected 48 times.
01:43:22.000
So, constant rejection, and then if you get it, like, finally I get their love.
01:43:36.000
You get super sensitive, everybody loves you, River Phoenix.
01:43:40.000
Except like Jodie Foster, she seems to be okay.
01:43:56.000
Your grow up period is supposed to be this struggle.
01:44:25.000
They're also actors, so that's part of it, too.
01:44:31.000
Yeah, I think there's just something weird about developing your personality and your body going through puberty and all that shit while you're famous.
01:44:53.000
What's important for a guy like you or a guy like Joey or Duncan or anybody that I know that's interesting?
01:45:07.000
Fans and friends and just learn how to cope with no money.
01:45:13.000
Also, there's a certain amount of appreciation for whatever success you do attain, because you're always going to remember being poor and fucked up and sad.
01:45:22.000
If you were a waitress for a while, you'd enjoy being a movie star a lot more than just some child star who became...
01:45:29.000
I mean, not saying that the child star can't form some sort of an understanding.
01:45:38.000
My friend saw somebody at one of those award shows.
01:45:41.000
He said one of those American Pie ladies, you know, like Tara Reid or something like that.
01:45:46.000
Somebody pulled up in a Honda, you know, some valet.
01:45:51.000
I think it was like the lowest thing she could think of.
01:45:58.000
And it's just like, alright, you guys are never going to relate to actual people.
01:46:04.000
I had some lady mock me once because I had an Acura NSX. Really?
01:46:08.000
She just mocked me in front of a restaurant for having a fake Ferrari.
01:46:24.000
Dude, you would bring these toys into the store and just be like, hey guys, take a look at this.
01:46:28.000
First of all, I'm going to play the sound system loud enough and they'll hear it in the showroom.
01:46:31.000
And then I'll show you the fucking bootleg video machine I have where you can watch full Bruce Lee videos while you're driving.
01:46:40.000
You could watch Game of Death as you were driving.
01:46:49.000
Flipped over like Cannonball Run license plates.
01:46:54.000
That's what you do when you get that Fear Factor money.
01:46:56.000
Yeah, you would come with that and marijuana lemonade before there were dispensaries.
01:47:02.000
Well, I was ahead of the curve when it came to marijuana drinkables.
01:47:12.000
We call it marijuana wine, but it was like a soda that contained weed in it.
01:47:23.000
So you drink a whole glass of it and you just go on a spiral ride.
01:47:29.000
A tornado of emotions just turns you through the air.
01:47:42.000
Not only that, we didn't understand that it was a different drug yet.
01:47:48.000
Even to this day, most people don't understand.
01:47:51.000
Yeah, when you smoke it, you get the THC, but when you eat it, it becomes a totally different psychoactive substance.
01:48:03.000
Because those barbarians that live on the East Coast, they don't have fucking regulations.
01:48:33.000
Dude, all you have to do is pop that cap, right?
01:48:43.000
You'll barf on that if you don't have a tolerance.
01:48:49.000
I've seen Lee take 950. I've seen Joey eat two of those stars of death.
01:49:05.000
I was okay for my story at halfway through, and then I was like, fuck.
01:49:08.000
Do you remember one of those los jormones, those gummies, the gummy bears?
01:49:17.000
Dude, those guys come to the punchline and stuff like you want to smoke?
01:49:41.000
Here's my theory, because I've heard this a lot.
01:49:43.000
A lot of times, it's people with really low fat.
01:49:47.000
If they don't have anything for it to bind on...
01:49:50.000
With the people I've seen- He's lower fat than me, though, probably.
01:50:09.000
190. I'm lighter than I've been in a long time.
01:50:39.000
The people I've seen that happen to, it doesn't hit them, it's always real thin, real small people.
01:50:44.000
But when you're talking about like fatty foods, people think of fatty foods like things that make you fat.
01:50:55.000
I know sometimes when you eat a slice of pizza after you get high, it kicks it up again.
01:51:07.000
Same thought, I guess, but I don't know if that's true.
01:51:12.000
Like, someone said that mangoes enhance your high.
01:51:26.000
Mangos increase the effects of consuming marijuana.
01:51:48.000
Yeah, he's reversed it already, but he told his doctor he's lethargic and whatever.
01:51:52.000
He goes, oh yeah, man, I think I know what that is.
01:51:55.000
He eats a lot of candy, but from those tortilla shells and shit like that.
01:51:59.000
That turn to fat, pizza, stuff that turns to sugar in your body.
01:52:06.000
You know Sam Harris, the neuroscientist, the atheist character, really great podcast guest, he went vegan and his blood lipids are all fucked up because he's consuming so many carbs, like so many pastas and breads and things along those lines,
01:52:23.000
that that sort of breaks it down in his body to sugar, so it fucks up your blood lipids.
01:52:31.000
If you're going to do like a carbohydrate-rich diet, you really got to mix up a lot of green leafy vegetables.
01:52:39.000
And if you're going to get fats, you should get them from like, you got to use like coconut oil and coconut butter and things along those lines to keep everything.
01:52:47.000
I'm just going to try to stop eating as much candy.
01:52:55.000
Less than something, like less than a certain...
01:53:04.000
But it does in the way your body processes food.
01:53:12.000
Your body doesn't know about that mostly meat shit.
01:53:14.000
Your body knows, oh, I just took in 51 grams of sugar from barbecue sauce.
01:53:20.000
As a matter of fact, your body doesn't know when you're taking in sugar from fruit.
01:53:24.000
I thought it does because it binds with the fiber, if your actual fruit.
01:53:28.000
It helps if you eat it, but if you're drinking orange juice, that sugar is the same as sugar from Coca-Cola.
01:53:38.000
If you drink a giant-ass 20-ounce glass of orange juice, your body is just simply not designed to have that much sugar come out of an orange.
01:53:47.000
That's like fucking nine oranges with no fiber.
01:53:52.000
It's probably better for you because there's all vitamin C in it, there's no caffeine, and it's probably better for you than a 20 ounce Coca-Cola.
01:54:13.000
But we have to go soon anyway because I gotta get something somewhere.
01:54:18.000
Folks, don't put a camera on him because that's rude.
01:54:31.000
Folks, that's the first time anybody's peed on the podcast.
01:54:54.000
Ari Shaffir will be at the Comedy Store tomorrow night, ladies and gentlemen.
01:55:01.000
Tell them that you heard him pee on the Joe Rogan Experience and you will get absolutely nothing off your ticket price.
01:55:10.000
If you want it, we're going to put it on eBay for poachers.
01:55:22.000
We're going to stop the poaching with Ari's piss.
01:55:33.000
Someone tell those people there's a G and an H in there.
01:55:37.000
They also have rules against bringing knives because they get stabby there too.
01:55:44.000
This hour that I'm doing tomorrow at the Comedy Store.
01:55:46.000
And then I'm going to record in October in Cap City.
01:55:56.000
And your chairs are sitting and get serious at the end.
01:56:01.000
A few people won this award by doing this, like, full circle thing.
01:56:04.000
Trying to, like, that's when I realized, you know, I was...
01:56:07.000
And it's just like, then they all start trying to emulate that.
01:56:14.000
Okay, so you're doing American stand-up comedy, am I right?
01:56:32.000
So if you have friends that are going, tell them about it.
01:56:35.000
This place seats about 120. Oh, that's perfect.
01:56:38.000
But you gotta fill up on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
01:56:45.000
Sometimes those shows with 10 people are the best shows ever.
01:56:50.000
Or the shows with 50 people are sometimes the best show ever.
01:56:52.000
Also these Scottish people that don't get your references.
01:57:02.000
I'm a little bit of a communist for certain things.
01:57:07.000
They come outside afterwards like, I got a bucket.
01:57:14.000
And then the great shows that fill up, get more money.
01:57:18.000
It doesn't feel like begging because everyone is doing it there.
01:57:29.000
If you really like me, support a couple of fucking pounds.
01:57:31.000
You get way higher percentage, so less money, but like, the people who can't afford it, can't afford it.
01:57:38.000
See, the problem is you give people free tickets in America.
01:57:42.000
I don't know if it would work over here like that.
01:57:43.000
Yeah, but there, right, because they were crazy and they'll squeeze.
01:57:47.000
There, you tell them, hey, you didn't pay, get the fuck out.
01:57:51.000
They're like, I don't want to be here, I'll just go.
01:57:52.000
But when you comp people in America, oftentimes you get like a less enthusiastic crowd.
01:57:58.000
But maybe it's just an American idea, though, you know?
01:58:04.000
Alright folks, we gotta get the fuck out of here.
01:58:15.000
AriTheGreat.com for tickets for tomorrow night at the fucking Comedy Store.