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00:06:00.000Water into wine, healed the sick, gave wine, all that shit.
00:06:03.000The people still killed him, you know?
00:06:05.000It doesn't matter how good you are or what you do, there's always gonna be some fucking asshole who talks shit and does, you know what I mean?
00:06:10.000And that was an interesting little perspective that seemed to work out for me.
00:06:13.000Like, who cares what these people think?
00:06:14.000It doesn't matter what you do, they're gonna fucking hate you.
00:06:16.000If everyone was perfect, you wouldn't appreciate perfect people.
00:06:20.000If everybody was awesome and really cool and easy to talk to and friendly, you wouldn't...
00:07:18.000But, you know, people do stuff like that, and they don't even know why they're doing it.
00:07:22.000They're doing it to get a reaction, or they're doing it because they're upset, and they're like, why is this fucking Joe Schilling guy on TV this piece of shit?
00:07:42.000Or I'll get like a message like, I was in a bad mood, I said something really bad about you a couple months ago online, I'm really sorry, can you unblock me now?
00:07:49.000I'm like, no, you're a fucking asshole.
00:08:12.000But I think, you know, if someone is upset at you because they don't like, you know, a painting that you did or they don't like a song that you made, that's one thing.
00:08:20.000But a fight is so emotional and so personal and it's so, the consequences are so much different than any other endeavor.
00:08:29.000Even if you lose a game, LeBron James, you fucking suck.
00:09:00.000I think one of the reasons why people attack people, like, when something goes wrong in their life, like a Charlie Sheen thing or something like that, is that they know that that could happen to them, but it's not happening to them right now.
00:09:12.000So they feel like, well, fuck him, man.
00:09:52.000Did you ever see that HBO, was it 24-7 with Floyd Mayweather, where he's eating a cheeseburger with his friend, and some guy, some fucking fat, doughy cunt is yelling at him how he's afraid to fight Manny Pacquiao?
00:10:08.000Like, you're talking to arguably the best boxer that's ever lived.
00:10:28.000And he's talking to some Doughy shithead, some flapping jaw, dumb cunt, who's giving him a hard time about fighting Manny Pacquiao, who he then went shut out a couple months later.
00:10:41.000But it's those people that aren't doing anything, those are the ones that are gonna yell something like that out.
00:10:47.000Those are people that, they don't have anything to gain or to lose.
00:10:52.000And that guy bought the Mighty Pacquiao, he bought the pay-per-view, that same fat doughy piece of shit.
00:11:27.000But I think that that's just, you know, there's this broad range of people.
00:11:32.000There's going to be winners and there's going to be losers.
00:11:34.000And there's going to be people that take risks.
00:11:36.000There's going to be people that don't ever take risks.
00:11:38.000And they just, they live their life, this sad, muted experience with no risks, no fun, and no rewards.
00:11:48.000They just never, they never get to shine.
00:11:51.000You know and a guy like you I Mean you fucking take some big-ass risks with your life and you have some big shining moments You know like the the fourth round kale of Simon Marcus, you know like you don't get those moments unless Sometimes those moments are turned on you.
00:12:10.000It's just there's no other way like the way you do it There's no other way.
00:12:13.000I mean sometimes you the hammer sometimes you the nail I am proud as hell of that, you know what I mean?
00:12:20.000Like having this conversation like two or three days ago, it would have been a little rough conversation, but now like looking at it like...
00:12:28.000I'm going to be remembered as that guy that always brought it.
00:12:31.000My name's going to go down when I'm dead and gone.
00:12:33.000They're going to remember what I've done for the sport of kickboxing, and I take a lot of pride in that.
00:12:36.000And when you turn on a Joe Schilling fight, kill or be killed, I'm going to fucking try and knock his head off.
00:12:41.000And I'm going to get caught again in the future, and I'm going to have some huge fucking ups, and I'm okay with that.
00:13:10.000And if you have that attitude and you press forward with that attitude, I know that you don't like losing, but if you can deal with it, it makes all the other stuff so much easier because you can get right back on the horse.
00:15:08.000I think they came up with these rules for K1, because K1 had this idea.
00:15:12.000It used to be no back spinning back fist.
00:15:14.000If you watched the old K1 fights, the only rule they'd say, come out, touch clothes, come out, swing, or whatever, and it was like, no spinning back fist.
00:15:25.000You know this the rule set is I believe designed for a certain style of fighter of entertainment same thing with the clinch.
00:15:32.000Yeah, so they that's the Those are the rules that they want.
00:15:36.000Yeah, they're not big on elbows in Japan because pride didn't allow elbows either Which is crazy because they allowed stomps and soccer kicks, but they didn't allow elbows on the ground So K1 came up with that rule set, and the idea behind it, I guess, was to make the fights more entertaining.
00:15:51.000Because you wouldn't be able to clinch, and you'd be forced to fight it out.
00:16:14.000This high-level kickboxing, whether it's Glory or it's Showtime or any of these big organizations, when you look at the high-level talent in kickboxing, that, to me, is some of the most exciting shit to watch in all combat sports.
00:16:27.000When I watch a fight like your fight this past weekend, or the tournament, or the Simon Marcus fight, or your fight with Artem Levin...
00:16:38.000I mean, that's what people love, I think, potentially the most about MMA. Obviously, you know, I'm a big fan of jiu-jitsu as well, and I love when fights go to the ground, and I love when guys win by submission, but...
00:16:51.000Man, I mean you want to talk about just pure excitement.
00:16:54.000Kickboxing is one of the most exciting sports on the planet, but Dana White's point was it got fucked in America by that goddamn PKA karate that used to be on ESPN where you would watch these guys throw these bullshit ass fake kicks where they had to get in like X amount of kicks per round so they would like throw these flippy fake stupid kicks and then they would have just really shitty sloppy boxing.
00:17:18.000Oh, man, there's some really good fucking boxers, though.
00:17:55.000You have to throw seven kicks before you can, you have to throw seven kicks per round just to keep it from, you know, turning into just straight boxing matches.
00:18:07.000I mean, they're bad motherfucking boxers.
00:18:09.000So, like, there was some really good, um, There were some really good guys back then that did go overseas and competed worldwide.
00:18:19.000Yeah, there was some, but there was also a lot of sloppy shit.
00:18:22.000Oh, there's a lot of sloppy shit, too.
00:18:24.000But if you look at the level that you're seeing now today in high-level kickboxing in comparison to them, like the Nikki Holtzkins and the Joe Valtellini and the Raymond Daniels and you, there's no comparison.
00:18:51.000I think it's an interesting way to do it.
00:18:53.000Have a cage and a ring right by each other.
00:18:55.000Yeah, the setup of the ring in the cage is, you know, Coker really likes it for the fans that are there that they can watch both at the same time.
00:19:03.000You know, I think the seating arrangements get weird or whatnot, but from a marketing perspective to get exactly what we were talking about, America, to pay attention to kickboxing so that we can build this sport, you got all these people that tuned in to watch Rampage.
00:20:11.000It was just a few people had heard of UFC from the old days and the Hoist Gracie days and the vast majority of the public was kind of out of the loop.
00:20:18.000And then they put on The Ultimate Fighter and you know, it was sort of the prime of reality TV back then.
00:20:25.000And that fight between Forrest Griffin and Stefan Bonner, which was such a wild ass fight, that sort of made MMA. I mean, it really did.
00:20:34.000It made the UFC. And Bellator needs something like that.
00:20:38.000What if those two played it safe that night?
00:20:45.000I'd probably be in Texas right now doing stand-up.
00:20:50.000Probably would have never worked for the U.S. Probably would have went under.
00:20:53.000How many keyboard warriors were telling Forrest Griffin how sloppy he looked that night and Stephan Bonner was a chode or whatever the fuck they would say.
00:24:13.000If you don't like actually watching your wife get guerrilla fucked by some greater...
00:24:18.000First of all, you gotta find a dude to fuck your wife that you can't kick his ass.
00:24:22.000That's not like a regular guy, Joe Schilling.
00:24:25.000So this is a different sort of scenario.
00:24:27.000A real cuck is supposed to be like a feeble person who lets some fucking Lawrence Taylor type dude come into his bedroom and fuck the shit out of his little white wife.
00:24:49.000I mean, I wonder if we've run out of insults.
00:24:51.000I mean, because this cuck one, they're using it so often, even when it's not really applicable, and they're doing it because it's a new one.
00:25:01.000Like, it's not like, this makes sense, let me call him a faggot.
00:25:04.000This makes sense, let me call him a pussy.
00:25:05.000No, it's like, we got this word, let's just throw it around until it's almost like they found a new word, and they're just throwing it around until it's useless.
00:25:50.000And then she starts looking up cuck, and she finds cuck porn, and she gets excited, and she thinks, my husband wants a guy to fuck me in front of him.
00:26:01.000And then she goes on Craigslist, finds some dude, and she thinks, you know, she's fulfilling a fantasy, tries to spice up the relationship, and suicide.
00:26:39.000Yeah, it used to be like you could live in some weird town in Kentucky and you would never find out about the goth people or the furries or any of the weird shit out there, but now you find out.
00:27:25.000What do you like about downtown LA? Right now I like it because it's close to the gym and it's close to my kid's house and it's convenient.
00:28:56.000I was like, I can't believe you're hating on downtown LA. No, I like downtown LA. Jamie and I talked about putting a studio up.
00:29:02.000I think what we might do, we're going to set up another place around here, but we're talking about doing a place on one of those penthouses.
00:32:57.000Like, with this shit that was going on in Germany where all these women were getting raped during New Year's Eve because of all these Islamic refugees that they had come in from Syria.
00:33:06.000I mean, it's just, that's just the way it is.
00:33:08.000People are coming from a completely different culture.
00:33:10.000In their culture, women are much more suppressed.
00:33:13.000They come over to this country, Germany, where women are westernized.
00:33:17.000They're free, and they're wearing skirts, and their tits are hanging out.
00:33:20.000They're dressed normal, and they're getting attacked.
00:33:23.000And so, what does the fucking mayor of, what was it, Berlin, tell them?
00:33:27.000Stay away from men and dress different.
00:33:29.000Stay an arm's length away from men and dress more conservatively.
00:33:35.000These people are so sensitive and worried that they're gonna hurt someone's feelings or they're gonna be called Islamophobic or racist in some way that they're telling women who've done nothing wrong that they should dress differently because they've unfortunately let these people in from another culture that think about things differently.
00:35:07.000A demasculated millennial liberal male who often speaks of white privilege and modern feminism blames white men for all of the world's problems.
00:35:57.000The language is evolving before our eyes.
00:36:00.000Cucks do not care about Islamic countries throwing gays off buildings or hanging them as much as the cake baker who is Christian and won't serve gay wedding customers.
00:36:51.000So, if you, okay, that's how Norton, I think, described it to me.
00:36:56.000Like, man, if your wife is out banging other dudes and you know about it but you don't say anything, you become a cuckold.
00:37:03.000But there's also, like, cuckold porn where it's, like I said, the guy's there while, like, sobbing in the corner while his wife gets gorilla fucked.
00:40:01.000Because it looks like it's still a lot of padding.
00:40:03.000I think it's more about the Thai culture and that was like the...
00:40:08.000Siam warrior days when they were going to war they had that kind of thing and the monk on that they wear when they walk out for the thing we would wear they would wear that around they wouldn't take that off like you know now they would pull it down and I wear it around their neck like a necklace when they would fight and go to war really but it's still the same thing it's like a cloth that's been blessed it might be your your mother's shirt or something like special and you're taking that with you to battle you would never would never take that off and years and years ago No shit.
00:41:31.000One of the most influential countries ever, if you really take into consideration, like, what they've contributed to overall combat sports, Thailand is one of the most influential countries ever.
00:41:46.000That's the first and foremost because the Japanese even taught jujitsu to Elio Gracie and Carlos Gracie and then it became Brazilian jujitsu, but Brazil is responsible for a massive amount of evolution of submission fighting, but other than that you got I guess Western wrestling,
00:42:26.000Kung Fu was a huge martial art from China and Judo and Karate.
00:42:31.000Before there was guns and bombs and cucks everywhere, there was Vikings who had fucking swords that went across the globe and fucking raped and pillaged and dominated people.
00:42:50.000Killing people and going to war and all of these countries made up, you know, samurais and made up their own style or whatever.
00:42:58.000But like, I think Burma, which is like right next to Thailand, has like Burmese boxing, which is very similar.
00:43:04.000Cambodia has Muay Thai or its own version of those things, you know.
00:43:08.000Yeah, there's Bando, you know, that's from Burma too, right?
00:43:15.000It's just amazing the style that the Thais use as far as the clinching, the knees in the clinch, and the kicks and elbows in the clinch, and then leg kicks.
00:43:24.000They really revolutionized stand-up striking, certainly in MMA. One of the most important aspects of MMA. And, you know, some guys just become so proficient at it.
00:43:37.000It's interesting when you watch pure Thai boxing, like Yotsin Klai, or like really high-level Thai guys.
00:43:45.000You watch it, you're like, wow, this is like a totally different way of doing it.
00:43:50.000Like, they have a very specific type of style.
00:44:59.000You know, it's a really good time to watch just even straight Muay Thai.
00:45:04.000Yeah, I mean, you got guys with 200 fights that were trained by guys with 200 fights that were trained by guys with 200 fights that were trained with guys by 200 fights, you know, so it's...
00:45:14.000You know, and they start when they're seven years old and that's this their way of life and their culture and their, you know Muay Thai is like in their blood and in their DNA and their You know, I have 90 fights somewhere on that 90 fights like man.
00:47:08.000Yeah, he's another guy who paid the price physically.
00:47:13.000His craziness and his madness in his pursuit, because he would talk about on the podcast how he would just shoot cortisone into his joints and his shins and just numb everything up.
00:47:25.000And lidocaine, he'd shoot lidocaine into his shins.
00:49:34.000I tore My MCL ripped my MCL like detached it from my shin and then that allowed my knee and I tore my ACL in half and then I partially tore my LCL, so there's like four tenons and you hold your knee like two of them were completely torn and then one of them was like pretty fucking close to being completely torn.
00:49:56.000I took a fight on short notice and in Vegas we fought a Chinese guy and it was like the San Shao I didn't even know what San Shao was they were like they told me the rules like five minutes before the fight in the back backstage and I was throwing it went to throw a knee and as I was like standing on one foot and As I was standing on one foot,
00:50:17.000throwing the knee, he kicked right under my knee, and it shifted so hard that it just ripped my...
00:51:29.000Dr. Mora in Orange, City of Orange, did an amazing job.
00:51:32.000And he fought with the insurance company for me because they didn't want to do the cadaver thing.
00:51:38.000What they do is they'll actually cut a sliver out of your patella or your hamstring or your patella tendon, which is the big fat tendon that goes down the front of your knee.
00:51:47.000And they would cut a sliver out of that, take that piece, put it in your ACL, and then wait for that to scar over.
00:51:53.000And I'm like, so I already have a weak knee, and you're gonna fucking take one of the only tendons I have left and make that one weak again?
00:53:04.000Your body has to proliferate it with cells and, you know, it has to make, you gotta make sure the blood supplies work in and it's a lot of work.
00:53:14.000Now they can do like PRP and all this cool stuff.
00:53:16.000You were talking about that orange shit last time I was here.
00:53:19.000Oh, now they're doing stem cell treatments for a lot of people.
00:53:30.000What they're finding with stem cells is that it can take on The form, especially if they're doing it from women's placenta, like a woman who gets a cesarean section, they take a young girl who's getting a cesarean section, they take her placenta, and they take the stem cells out of that,
00:53:46.000and they can inject it into various areas of your body, and it can become anything.
00:53:50.000It can become a tendon, it could become a ligament, it could repair torn muscles.
00:53:55.000It's really interesting what they're able to do.
00:53:57.000But there's also some danger, apparently, especially if you go to Mexico.
00:54:01.000Some dude went to a bunch of different places.
00:54:05.000I think he went to like six different places to get stem cells because he had a back problem.
00:54:12.000He started growing some weird tumor in his back that was like pressing on his spine and when they cut the tumor out they realized it was not his tissue that it was like someone else's tissue was growing in his body Like,
00:56:58.000But it would get so bad that it would swell up like a fucking tennis ball, and then that would pinch off all the nerves running down my arm.
00:57:32.000And then I had this woman on who's a doctor, Dr. Rhonda Patrick.
00:57:36.000She's a clinical researcher, and she was talking about the dangers of non-steroidal anti-inflammatories.
00:57:41.000They cause high blood pressure, they can cause strokes in some people, especially when you're using them on a daily basis.
00:57:46.000She's like, there's a lot of people that are using non-steroidal anti-inflammatories, and actually there's a fucked up loop that's going on, and this is the loop.
00:57:55.000When you take non-steroidal anti-inflammatories, it actually causes inflammation because it fucks with the gut flora in your body, especially if you take it on a regular basis, which in turn causes inflammation, which you're taking non-steroidal anti-inflammatories to deal with the inflammation.
00:58:11.000So the pills that you're taking to deal with joint pain sometimes are causing joint pain.
01:03:21.000Well, see, commentating is interesting because being someone who's done it before, there are things that you see on television when you're watching it.
01:03:31.000Honestly, the best view in the house is your house.
01:03:36.000When you're watching fights, because when you're watching kickboxing or whether you're watching MMA... When you're watching on television, you're seeing it, like, inside the cage and inside the ring, and you're seeing it from the right angle.
01:03:49.000Like, there's a lot of times where I'm watching a fight, first of all, I have the best seat in the house.
01:04:11.000And when the fight is playing in front of me, it's like I'm looking up, and then I'm looking down at the screen.
01:04:16.000I'm looking up, and then I'm looking down at the screen.
01:04:17.000And sometimes I have to do commentary when I'm down at the screen.
01:04:19.000But I want to watch the actual action playing out.
01:04:23.000And when that is going on, sometimes you don't see everything.
01:04:27.000But I feel like there's some subtleties that you see when you're looking at a guy.
01:04:32.000There's some things that you see in movement where your brain...
01:04:35.000I've got to think that all the years of...
01:04:38.000Watching martial arts and doing martial arts my brains chunked a bunch of information and I see Certain traits and I see trends and I see things and you see them when you're actually looking at the person's body better than you do if you're looking at a monitor a video representation of it but Like,
01:04:56.000there's sometimes the ref's in the way, and I don't see what's going on.
01:05:00.000Like, the ref's here, and they're right behind the ref, and so I might miss something.
01:05:03.000Or their back is to me, and they get hit with an uppercut, and you don't see what they get hit with.
01:05:07.000There's a lot of times you miss a few things.
01:05:13.000I know that these guys were sitting ringside and they're watching it through the ropes and they're seeing it live and sometimes you don't catch anything.
01:05:18.000But I did think that the commentary was a little one-sided.
01:05:22.000And I did think that there was a lot of things that you were doing that they weren't either picking up on or they weren't giving you credit for.
01:05:30.000And in all fairness, you told me about that before I saw the fight.
01:05:34.000And so I saw the fight and I was watching.
01:05:36.000I was like, wow, this is an interesting way they're talking about this fight.
01:06:59.000They were definitely painting you out to be, but that's also, in their defense, I mean, they're trying to develop personalities for people to tune into.
01:07:07.000You know, here's this guy who comes out with fucking prison pants on, with L.A. on them.
01:07:14.000I mean, why develop or promote the fact that he was the first American to ever win a global combat tournament, or a three-time world champion, or holds the record for the fastest knockout in combat sports?
01:07:24.000You know, why promote any of those accomplishments?
01:07:51.000When you're in it, you don't realize what you've actually done, but what I think I've been a part of with Can't Stop Crazy for the sport and the growth in the sport here in this country, from Lion Fight to Glory to now Bellator Kickboxing and being where I am...
01:08:08.000The weight is on my shoulders, so to speak, with pushing this new brand and showing high-level kickboxing to the world and putting on exciting fights is proud.
01:08:17.000Which is why we gotta get you off the fucking ibuprofen, get you off the cigarettes.
01:08:29.000I'm telling you, I think that there's a real possibility that the inflammation that's being caused by taking this stuff and fucking with your gut flora is actually making your joints hurt even more than they would have normally.
01:08:58.000Essentially, it's a more potent form of fish oil or a more bioavailable, a really good bioavailable form, I should say, because even regular fish oil is excellent.
01:09:08.000This total gut health is different probiotics and enzymes that is really good for digesting food, the enzymes, and also absorbing nutrients through your food with the enzymes.
01:09:19.000But the probiotic aspect of it is very important.
01:12:03.000Tell them not to take 5-HTP? They tell them not to take it, because then you can get what's called serotonin syndrome, where your body has too much serotonin in it.
01:12:11.000Sort of like when guys are on steroids and they get...
01:12:22.000They just don't work with each other well.
01:12:25.000Neil Brennan, a friend of mine who's a comic, was the first guy that I ever met that was on 5-HTP. And then when he got on SSRIs, they told him to get off the 5-HTP. Like, there's too much going on here.
01:12:38.000Oh, so the antidepressants, that's what they do is they create serotonin?
01:14:45.000I've never had a session with Nick where I left and I was like, oh fuck.
01:14:49.000They were always hard and difficult, but they were never breaking me down.
01:14:55.000The results and the increase every week was really noticeable and impressive.
01:15:01.000Yeah, that's the intelligent approach, and that's the approach that a lot of trainers are using now, is they're giving you enough work so that your body improves and recovers, but not so much that your body can't improve.
01:15:12.000So this old stupid idea that a lot of us have, and I used to have, you gotta get out of there like you fucking, you can barely walk.
01:15:40.000Well, I've been really into that a lot lately because I started listening to Pavel Tatsulin.
01:15:46.000He's the guy that brought kettlebells to America.
01:15:50.000Badass Russian dude and he has some really interesting ideas about strength and conditioning and one of the things that's that he said that I think is most important is That the way you're training and especially training with kettlebells in particular What you what you're trying to do is you're trying to give your body work so that your body feels like Like,
01:16:14.000it can recover and you slowly build upon these things and think of them as a skill.
01:16:24.000And you're not trying to leave yourself completely exhausted and blown out and all your joints are fried and all your muscles are just rubber.
01:16:33.000Like you're trying to what he calls grease the groove, which means like slowly build this up and do it like instead instead of sets of like 25 reps like CrossFit style.
01:16:43.000He's like everything more than five reps is bullshit.
01:16:46.000He's like everything more than five reps is bodybuilding.
01:16:49.000He's like you should be doing like Heavyweight, five reps.
01:17:25.000When you go to high altitude, your body has...
01:17:27.000Picks up a signal that there's not enough oxygen in this air, I need to make more red blood cells.
01:17:32.000So your body sends a neurological signal to create more red blood cells from your blood marrow or whatever.
01:17:38.000So your body's like a computer and you're just trying to get, okay, I want to be a little faster, I want to be a little whatever, and I'm doing enough work to send that signal to make my body adapt.
01:17:48.000As opposed to, I want to be faster, so I'm going to just destroy my legs until I can't walk for a week, and then it's going to build back faster.
01:17:59.000The right way to do it really is to, like, and I've been getting great results with Pavel's methods with doing lighter, or not lighter weights, but Lower reps.
01:18:10.000Lower reps and, like, if I could do eight or nine reps, I do five.
01:18:19.000I know I put in, you know, 45 minutes or more of hard work, but I don't feel, like, broken down.
01:18:25.000Whereas before, when I was, like, sort of structuring it off of my own ideas, I would just have these fucking brutal workouts where I would just...
01:18:38.000And then when it was over, I just felt like a zombie for the rest of the day.
01:18:41.000Yeah, and then now your serotonin levels, by the time you're three days in, I'm like, fuck, I need some new mood, because I don't feel like I want to do this shit anymore, and you're not going to perform as well, and you're not going to, you know...
01:19:09.000Yeah, there's a lot of science to athletics, to sports training with athletes today that just didn't exist 10, 20 years ago, and take advantage of that.
01:20:13.000You know, the ideas of absorption of certain fats and essential fatty acids that they had, especially plant-based stuff, just a few years ago.
01:20:21.000They're realizing, like, yeah, this stuff exists in these plant forms, but it's not as bioavailable as it is in animal forms.
01:20:29.000And this is, like, really recent stuff.
01:21:27.000It's about how much corn we eat and how corn is subsidized, how they pay people to grow corn.
01:21:32.000The government pays farmers to grow corn.
01:21:35.000If the government didn't subsidize corn production in this company, corn agriculture would fucking collapse.
01:21:41.000There's so many of these people that are reliant, these agricultural farms that are growing corn, reliant on government subsidies in order to stay afloat.
01:22:18.000Isn't beef the protein that you think would be in the beef jerky?
01:22:22.000Well, it must have something to do with the flavoring or something to do with the sauce that they, you know, they marinate them in teriyaki or whatever the fuck they do when they make it.
01:22:30.000But there was corn protein in beef jerky.
01:22:46.000Yeah, I had two back-to-back fights anyway, and I'm looking forward to having a little time off, relaxing a little bit, getting my mind wrapped around what happened, why it happened, where I go from here.
01:22:58.000Do you move around your training camps at all?
01:23:19.000I think my team is really solid, and I think that's where I need to be.
01:23:24.000I was at American Top Team before, well, when Saki Koff knocked me out the first time, I was at American Top Team working on my wrestling and stuff, and it was a cool experience.
01:23:33.000I don't think it was the best experience for me.
01:23:35.000Just being away from my sports system and my coaches and my team, and I think that was a mistake to jump ship, so to speak, and go train someplace else.
01:23:45.000Yeah, it seems to me that there's a lot of comforts of home that help relax you and just being in the same environment all the time is probably real good for you in terms of like your comfort level, recovery, and being in your own home.
01:23:58.000Yeah, and I think just your coaches and being with somebody that's trained you for 10 years and he knows what you're thinking, you know what he thinks.
01:24:03.000He knows how you are, what you need to hear, how hard to work you, things like that, you know?
01:26:13.000But have you had much experience besides American Top Team working with different kickboxing trainers or is there anybody that you would really enjoy working with?
01:26:23.000No, I haven't had a lot of experience outside of working with ATT. Even ATT was mostly, I just worked at my wrestling.
01:26:36.000In trying out, you know, different people, just having some sessions with some different people just to see if you can pick up a few things?
01:27:01.000I just think, you know, for a guy like you at your level, like any little variables that you could pick up from any of these guys is probably a good thing.
01:28:23.000No, he is a fucking amazing dude and so important for the growth and development of MMA. I mean, what he's done with American Top Team and putting together this world-class facility.
01:28:33.000By the way, spending millions of dollars to do it.
01:28:37.000Just throwing money at that and having guys take advantage of that.
01:31:05.000Weird freak shit like that happens a lot in the sport.
01:31:08.000Well, sure, and there's also injuries you get in the second and third round that you don't even know what...
01:31:12.000You felt your knee pop, you're not exactly sure what it is, and you're still standing on it and everything seems fine, and then you throw a kick and it just gives out.
01:33:01.000They have made fight week so stressful now for everyone and you get so mentally just stressed out and you can't do this and you can't do that and you gotta do these interviews and like fight week used to be our whole camp you know when I first started it was you want to fight on Saturday and it's like Monday and like okay I'm training all week and you fought on Saturday you know and uh you know I think that uh What's so stressful about it?
01:33:35.000If you sat at home and didn't eat, you know, and you're already dieting, you sat at home, the only thing that you can think of is on Saturday night, this guy's gonna try and kill me and blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:33:43.000And it's like it eats you up and like stresses you the fuck out.
01:34:02.000I used to watch my fight, my opponents a million times, you know, before I fought.
01:34:06.000Now it's like, I'll watch them fight maybe once or twice to see if there's anything that jumps out at me that would look, you know, like he does this sometimes, but other than that, try not to overanalyze it and make it in there and just do it.
01:34:30.000And you've, you know, is cowboy drinking a beer during fight week gonna change what his body, what he's done to train for the last 12 years of his life?
01:34:40.000He's not gonna, you know, perform because he had that beer.
01:35:22.000Timeline therapy is like, it's like a hypnosis state, but you're basically, you know, like a timeline in a book.
01:35:28.000There's like, Jesus born, whatever, World War I, World War II. And you kind of like, did you feel like you floated at all when you were under, or no?
01:35:37.000Didn't feel like I floated, but I felt like I went inward more.
01:35:59.000I know what it feels like to fly based off of that.
01:36:02.000And you go up, up, up, up, and you're looking at your life in a timeline.
01:36:06.000Think about a time when you're as far back as you can possibly remember, and you will tap into some shit from your childhood that you didn't even know that you even remembered.
01:36:20.000If you think about it, Everything that's ever happened to your whole life, everything you've ever seen, thought, heard, where did that information go?
01:36:34.000And with these hypnosis things, you have the opportunity to still tap into that or get better at tapping into that and accessing that information.
01:37:58.000Not necessarily fighting that person, like, not pretending it's my dad, but it was more like, I'm gonna, you know, I had a lot of motivation for my dad.
01:38:04.000And, uh, yeah, when the session was over, I had, I couldn't even tap into that.
01:38:09.000I was able to go, and I decided to go and start a new relationship with my dad.
01:38:14.000And it wasn't like, I forgive you, but say you're sorry.
01:38:17.000And, you know, it was like, I just didn't give a fuck anymore.
01:38:33.000The idea of timeline therapy, the idea of thinking about your life and being able to separate yourself like who you are right now and go back and look at all these moments in your life and what they meant to you and how you're carrying that around today.
01:42:13.000There's a video of him, some guy was working at the front desk of a hotel, and I don't know what the fuck he said, but Bada didn't like it, so he went behind the counter and smacked him in his head.
01:45:23.000I don't think being a traveler, from what I know about, well, I don't really the fuck do I know, but I don't think that it's about a money thing, because I think a lot of those people have money and flashy stuff and whatever.
01:47:11.000Well, it's just interesting to watch it all play out on YouTube, because you might have heard about all this stuff before, or you hear about it in stories and legends, but I think our age is the first age that's ever had a chance to watch these guys challenge each other.
01:47:41.000There's not a lot of history behind it in terms of documented culture, and they could go away.
01:47:51.000That's something that might not be here a hundred years from now.
01:47:53.000We might be watching a type of people or a group of people that are living a certain way that things might change in the next hundred years and they might integrate back into society.
01:48:38.000I just think it's so interesting to see all this stuff on YouTube because we have a view into this culture that you never would have gotten this before.
01:48:50.000You would have heard, you know, Patti O'Brien called out Mickey O'Fuckface and they met in the swamps and duked it out.
01:49:16.000It's not like you're talking about people like, oh, these are guys that live in Detroit, and Detroit's always had this sort of gypsy community.
01:50:33.000Yeah, they just set up shop and started partying.
01:50:36.000And people were like, what in the fuck?
01:50:38.000Can you imagine if you're like one of those pinkies out, teetotaler type English people who are super proper, and these motherfuckers moved next door, started bloodying each other up, having bonfires, I don't know, man.
01:50:52.000Something about the way they live is fun.
01:52:09.000It's like you're on wheels and you can do it in place or you can do it you could actually race people in it and it's a You race people you can race in it Can you find it Jamie no?
01:52:32.000Do you know the company that makes it?
01:53:13.000What I'm looking at, folks, it's sort of like a super advanced version of an ab wheel, but you have one on your feet and one on your hands, and you're pushing forward with the one on your hands, where it's almost like a cart, and then you're pulling the ab wheel that's connected to your feet forward and pushing...
01:54:09.000Okay, so it's got resistance bands, so you push the forward cart, and the resistance bands are resisting you as you push forward, and then you pull your legs forward.
01:57:19.000Lately I've been doing a lot more just pad work and speed work and using a double in bag a lot.
01:57:24.000For a long time I was trying to be very physical and outworking the other person and being more aggressive and trying to get more to speed and technique than trying to outwork people.
01:58:16.000Yeah, they gave me a Ferrari for like a week till the fight, and then gave it back, went to the fight, and then I got a brand new Z06 outside right now.
01:59:23.000But I'm driving in the Ferrari and I get a text and it was the Bellator social media team sends me that video and I'm watching this video of how far I've come and what I've done for the sport and That Can't Stop Crazy and Focus piece in the driver's seat of a Ferrari.