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00:02:16.000I was at a restaurant once, a very fine restaurant, a very fine Italian restaurant, and a gentleman walked in with a briefcase with two bottles of wine and velvet in the briefcase.
00:02:25.000I had to resist the chimpanzee urge to leap over the table and smash him in his fucking head with that case.
00:04:08.000And I told you that he said, we're going to open this wine that Robert Parker gave 100 out of 100 and called it one of the wines of the century.
00:06:18.000But there's some lightning fast decision making going on there.
00:06:22.000But when Senna died, if you look at the streets of Brazil for his funeral, it was something that you would never see in the United States.
00:06:29.000If a great race car driver, like say a great NASCAR driver, you wouldn't see, I think it was some crazy number of people that showed up in the streets of Brazil.
00:06:37.000Well, the Brazilians are insanely nationalistic.
00:06:43.000So when someone comes along like Senna, who dominates something that's traditionally a European-dominated sport like Formula One, and he was a wild man.
00:07:16.000But that is something that I don't know anything about it, but I'm sure when you follow it and that sort of those millimeters, those differences are what make everything, you know, when you have a cultivated sense, when you know what you're looking at and what looking for, it's...
00:07:55.000Like, if you had, like, sciatica or something, your ass went numb, which I would imagine it would be a real problem with someone who sits down all the time.
00:08:25.000Because I think horseback riding, if you watch high, high level jumpers, they, you know, or dressage guys, they, they, it's the same exact thing.
00:08:34.000It's all feel and it literally looks like they're doing nothing.
00:08:36.000So the difference between the best in the world and the number 300, you and I could never tell the difference because they don't look like they're doing anything.
00:08:44.000Literally, they just, they look like, for me, they look like they're sitting upright, very still, is why I could never ride a horse, and just, there's nothing going on.
00:08:51.000But the details, those little, like, where they place the micro, how they micromanage that saddle, and the signals they're sending to the horse with their hands, their legs, and their ass, is a whole different thing.
00:09:03.000That's so often the case though with things where things look effortless because the people that are awesome at them do it so smoothly that you can't appreciate it unless you actually do it.
00:09:17.000That's literally what I love about, you know, and it sounds silly, but you can touch a little of that In anything you do when you practice something you're not good at.
00:09:29.000So tennis, I always talk about tennis and boxing.
00:09:38.000I swear to God, maybe the actual activity is secondary to...
00:09:44.000How I love to work on the little details and get better through daily attendance, through daily practice.
00:09:53.000Because something happens to me that reaches beyond that sport.
00:09:56.000So when I do something that I'm maybe a little afraid of or maybe I'm not good at, it forces me to think in a way that informs the other things in my life that I make a living at.
00:10:13.000Yeah, it totally makes sense, because I think very difficult endeavors, you know, whatever it is that you're trying to do, anything, fucking dance, if you were trying to be a ballerina.
00:10:26.000Ballet is my foundation, but I'm so passionate, I live, there's too much equator in me, I live in my groin, so I had to move to salsa and merengue.
00:10:34.000Well, people that really get into jiu-jitsu say that as well.
00:11:57.000It's kind of why I feel like a lot of times I do think there's a place for self-help and, you know, inspiration when you're young.
00:12:05.000But after a while, you know, just trying to get really good at something under proper tutelage, I think will teach you all of those things.
00:12:14.000But there's a lot of people that just try to get good at it, they never get good at it, that probably would do better if they had better pathways to think.
00:12:23.000Well, I think first, what someone like Tony Robbins does, because I've listened to a lot of his tapes when I was younger, I was all set to make fun of him, because I was trying to write this parody on him, and then I listened to him and I went, oh, this motherfucker knows exactly how my brain works.
00:12:38.000I mean, in a lot of ways, he simplifies, and he has tools that help me...
00:12:45.000Focus my energy and recognize certain patterns.
00:14:02.000And by the way, we're just talking about regular pornography.
00:14:05.000There's certain pornography that you go, okay, what the fuck is that for?
00:14:08.000Like, why does anybody need to see people spit in people's eyes and cum in people's noses and stuff?
00:14:13.000Like, there's a lot of really fucked up pornography.
00:14:15.000But I always equate that to, like, the same thing was, like, if you watch certain violent movies, it's almost like they are the product of the ramping up effect.
00:14:24.000Every other violent movie that's come before them, they've had to go further and further and further to the point where it's just totally ridiculous.
00:14:34.000It's just a response to taking it to the next level.
00:14:38.000The guy who wrote the double helix, quote-unquote, for a serial killer, for the making of a serial killer, a guy named Richard Walter, who's an FBI profiler, brilliant guy, he said that...
00:14:48.000Serial killers will typically, and this is from literally interviewing 20,000, 30,000 prisoners, many of whom were murderers, violent criminals.
00:14:57.000And he put together this profile, which was that serial killers many times start with fetishes.
00:15:17.000Then that doesn't do it for you anymore.
00:15:18.000And then you have to go into a store and cut leather jackets with a razor because you might get caught, but it's like skin, all that stuff.
00:15:26.000And what he said was that once you get to one level, you never can go back.
00:15:50.000But I do know that there have been some studies about how less...
00:15:54.000There are, I guess, a lot of serial killers or maniacs are doing less of that stuff because they can get more of it through a simulated environment.
00:16:03.000Well, that was the argument that the Japanese had, or some Japanese scholars had, about pornography.
00:16:08.000Is that Japanese porn is, I might be wrong about this, that it's more embraced, and that when you look at deviant behavior, it's more embraced in films and things like that, and that sort of keeps them from doing it in real life.
00:16:22.000Yeah, I would imagine that you can get satiated visually.
00:16:39.000Yeah, or at least we can't take our eyes off it.
00:16:41.000Yeah, we definitely can't take our eyes off of it.
00:16:44.000But I think that also it's possible that that could...
00:16:47.000Like, they say that about video games.
00:16:49.000Like, the argument against video games has always been that video games encourage violence.
00:16:52.000But it shows that the actual facts show that it's the opposite is true.
00:16:57.000That video games actually get people involved in the violence of video games and it satisfies whatever weird cravings people might have for violence.
00:18:02.000And that man-made lake, like to drain it, the drainage system to build that lake, they're just discovering some of the areas of the Colosseum today.
00:18:51.000It's wild when you go to Italy, and especially Rome, and you're standing in structures that have been there for, and were living, and had, you know, people died on that.
00:19:02.000It's kind of like the octagon, the original octagon, you know?
00:19:17.000And they've literally just discovered this.
00:19:20.000They discovered some sort of artwork or some writing that indicated that these boat fights took place for a very short amount of time, like a couple of years.
00:19:40.000They would fill up the bottom with two meters of water, six feet of water, and have these boats and float these boats around, and they would fight to the death on boats.
00:21:19.000Well, they had to figure out how to do it, too, because they would get these animals in there, and most of the time they'd let the animals out, and the animals would be just fucking scared.
00:21:27.000So they realized that by keeping them down there with no food and no water and getting them to a complete state of desperation and hysteria, that would allow them to ensure that when they pop that trapdoor, the lions would come out and just try to jack people.
00:21:43.000They had elephants, they had all sorts of crazy fucking animals they had brought in from Africa, which, by the way, is not even a thousand miles away.
00:21:50.000I had no idea Africa was so close to Italy.
00:26:31.000It was also sort of what gave food to the Reformation when Martin Luther, this German Jesuit priest, said, hey man, all this money that's going to, you know, idolatry essentially, like building these incredible statues and these incredible cathedrals and we're starving over here.
00:26:50.000If we just read the Bible, then maybe we'll be, you know, just as in favor with God as you guys.
00:26:57.000And maybe we don't need a hierarchy of bishops and all these and popes and all this sort of rank and file that also needs a salary, that's also taking money.
00:27:07.000Well, Martin Luther was also the first guy to translate the Bible phonetically so that regular people could read it.
00:27:13.000Because everybody else was like, no one knew Latin.
00:27:31.000He was always on the run, but you're right.
00:27:32.000But if he was anyone else, if he wasn't a very respected, high-standing person in society, they probably would have jacked him a long time ago.
00:31:46.000Okay, but when you look at like wage slavery today, when you, I mean, there's no slavery today, but if you can imprison people in a state of poverty, right, and it's not against their will, right, voluntarily, you get people hooked on buying things and you get them hooked on credit,
00:32:06.000So they need to work, they constantly need to work, and then they're in these jobs that are completely dead-end, low-wage jobs where they can't go anywhere, and then they perform these menial tasks until we figure out robots that can do those tasks far better and far more efficient.
00:32:21.000It's not slavery, because they can quit and leave anytime they want.
00:32:25.000But in a lot of ways, it has the same effect.
00:32:48.000It has gained traction in most of the world, and even in parts of the world where it isn't, they try to defend it as it being so.
00:32:55.000And that is the idea of universal human rights.
00:32:59.000Universal human rights was not an idea that was embraced by most of the world, even as far back, probably you can make the argument, as 1940. Slavery was alive and well.
00:33:10.000Think about this country in itself, this country until 1964, was it, where there was separate but equal.
00:33:18.000The idea that you had black and white water fountains.
00:33:22.000A hundred years before that, which is nothing, slavery.
00:33:26.000And so the idea that, and of course that had to be defended along biblical grounds and all these kind of shoddy ideas, but the idea of Universal human rights.
00:33:37.000Even though the Judeo-Christian ethic and even Islam talked about sort of everybody being of the same moral worth because we're all from the same father, right?
00:33:45.000That's the monotheistic notion and where value comes in those religions.
00:33:49.000We're all the same as long as you, you know, read the Bible and follow these tenets.
00:33:55.000Universal human rights is something a little bit different, and it's a modern concept.
00:33:59.000And that, like, say, germ theory, the idea that these things you can't see, but you still have to wash your hands or you can spread bacteria and things like that.
00:34:07.000Those things that move very slowly, but that is, I think...
00:34:11.000I was just talking about how both those ideas are ideas that took a long time to gain traction, you know, even though they were good for us.
00:34:19.000But let's stick to universal human rights.
00:34:23.000I think that that idea is just that mindset and the fact that you have to defend it as a society is why there's such a stark difference between...
00:34:35.000I understand what you're saying by being at bondage to your lifestyle, to having to make a living because you got people to depend on you and stuff like that.
00:35:42.000How is that the civil rights movement?
00:35:43.000That's the first day that someone's brought to the United States against their will.
00:35:47.000That's not the first day that someone enacted some sort of a civil rights movement.
00:35:52.000What he was saying was that everybody is always fighting for dignity and their own sovereignty and their own civil rights.
00:36:00.000Regardless of where they are, if you put someone in bondage and you make them do things against their will and you take their dignity away...
00:36:09.000They are immediately beginning the struggle for their own freedom.
00:36:14.000Right, and that's where the conspiracy theories fall into play, where modern capitalism is thought of as being some sort of a new way around that.
00:36:22.000That instead of having people slaves, like literally bonding them, putting them in chains, keeping them against their will, instead you just set up these honey traps.
00:36:31.000And you allow people to get sucked into these things like having massive debt from student loans and making credit cards easy and allowing people to mortgage a house they can't really afford, knowing full well that eventually the bank's gonna foreclose on this and reap some sort of a profit.
00:36:49.000And that all these things, this is where conspiracy theories fall into play, That all these things are set up to enact a modern form of slavery, and that there's always going to be people that are taking advantage of people below them and putting them in very disadvantageous situations for their own gain.
00:37:06.000I would say that that's literally the state of nature.
00:37:10.000And what I mean by that is that, let's just take, for example, the marketplace.
00:37:14.000If you just let people go, let people do their thing.
00:37:18.000They are going to, for example, there's going to be a marketplace for differences of opinion.
00:38:15.000So for me, capitalism is just a bunch of people with different opinions who are trying to make money, who are coming up with ideas.
00:38:22.000And if you create a society where you can enforce contracts and make people keep their promises, and you can ensure that people have what's called property rights, which is really important, You know, courts essentially that have integrity,
00:39:14.000And I see what you're saying about capitalism, and I see what you're saying about society.
00:39:17.000But I think that all these things, when we point to ancient Rome, we point to how fucked up their world was, and slavery as recently as a couple hundred years ago, I think what we're saying is things are getting better.
00:40:28.000If you did something wrong, if you put a one instead of a zero in a line of code and the fucking phone crashed when it hit a thousand emails or whatever, you'd probably beat the fuck out of you.
00:41:42.000That's a power that you can use for good.
00:41:44.000If you have all those eyeballs on you, you can say, hey guys, I know you're all looking at me and you do this all the time.
00:41:49.000How many people download this podcast?
00:41:52.000You're very aware of the responsibility that comes with, so you do two things.
00:41:55.000You try to keep it really honest and true to yourself, but you also try to have really smart people on who have different perspectives so you can kind of figure out a way to get those ideas out into people's heads.
00:42:05.000That's one form of power that I would consider a positive use.
00:42:09.000Then there's the Russian model of power.
00:43:12.000I believe that Russia, which is such an amazing group of people, they could do anything they wanted, and a strong culture.
00:43:19.000But I think the mindset of Russians, and in many ways, maybe it's not their fault, maybe it's a product of their history, their mindset is that they admire Russia.
00:43:27.000The first example of power, control and strength and dominance more than they admire the power that influences and inspires.
00:44:20.000And he said that if Donald Trump becomes president and has the key to the nuclear football, he said he literally could be the end of civilization.
00:44:27.000He said the book should have been titled, instead of The Art of the Deal, should have been titled The Art of Sociopath.
00:46:12.000I remember being amazed that the United States voted a man by the name of Barack Hussein Obama in when our public enemy number one was Osama bin Laden.
00:46:23.000Phonetically, they sound very similar.
00:46:45.000Well, there's that, but there's also the fact there's a two-party system where if you are on the left, you have to support whoever's on the left.
00:46:52.000That's why all these people are lining up to support Hillary Clinton and ignoring left and right all the crazy evidence against her just being completely full of shit.
00:47:03.000We played this video the other day where they were showing the difference between what the FBI has said about her trial, about them looking into the email server, the illegal use of the email server, the fact that top-secret documents were shared,
00:47:19.000cut and pasted, and shared with people that did not have the status to be able to check those, and that multiple devices were used to access these.
00:47:27.000And then compared them to what she has said about it.
00:48:03.000I had Mike Baker in here from the CIA, a former CIA operative, who said flat out, if he had done the same thing, he goes, I would be in jail.
00:49:22.000I said, well, the people that are close to her that have worked with her had more...
00:49:27.000Favorable things to say, and I'm not a Hillary supporter, but they had more favorable than negative, which I thought was pretty interesting because I never thought of actually interviewing people that have worked closely with her.
00:50:34.000They're angry that she's choosing to become healthy.
00:50:37.000So they're saying this is in direct contrast to who she was before, who we loved, is this fucking cartoonish fat lady.
00:50:44.000And this cartoonish fat lady who we want to pretend is healthy.
00:50:47.000You know, there's a fucking slew of people out there that have blogs out there talking about different things that are healthy about being fat.
00:50:56.000And I went down a rabbit hole one night because some woman was writing, she was this obese woman, and I was really sad when I was looking at her photos and...
00:51:04.000You know, people like to highlight things that people say about them on social media and, you know, like, you know, all these people are harassing her for being fat.
00:51:22.000Different aspects of being overweight that are healthy.
00:51:26.000And this is one weird phenomenon where healthy people that catch a disease sometimes don't do as well as fat people that have the same disease.
00:51:39.000In the old days they said you should have some weight on you in case you get a disease and you can fight it better.
00:51:46.000I guess because maybe, and this is bro science, but from what I remember reading, your fat can actually absorb or store more, I don't know, or you have reserves when you're not eating and stuff.
00:52:02.000Your body will use the fatty acids for energy.
00:52:05.000So your body gets in this state of burning fat rather than burning food.
00:52:09.000And many times when people are sick, that's a huge issue.
00:52:13.000It's coming up with some form of energy.
00:52:15.000My Italian relatives, you know, the Sicilian side back in the day, I remember if somebody was too skinny, they would say, you know, be careful.
00:52:24.000If you get sick, you know, you'll die.
00:52:41.000This book by Gary Taub I just love called Why We Get Fat and What to Do About It.
00:52:46.000And he traces the genealogy of the obesity epidemic.
00:52:49.000And he goes all the way back to the 30s in New York City.
00:52:52.000And he looks at how ineffective all these obesity clinics and even the signs of obesity has been.
00:52:59.000It's been so difficult because a lot of times they treated it like it was a psychological disease, like you eat too much, so you'd go to a psychiatrist.
00:53:07.000Or they would put you on these very restrictive diets, 1200 calories a day, and you would lose weight, but at the end of the day you'd descend.
00:53:14.000Also, your body gets into this state of panic where it tries to store energy really quickly because it's worried that you're in a famine state.
00:53:22.000So what he traces and he looks at the Native Americans that had to sort of get on government rations when their land was taken and they all blew up like balloons because they were given white flour.
00:53:31.000And the thesis of the book is essentially that when you eat simple carbohydrates and a lot of carbohydrates, especially things like white flour and sugar, your body produces a lot of insulin and for a whole bunch of metabolic reasons, It's insulin that causes you to retain fat molecules and need more sugar for energy.
00:53:50.000And he does a really great job in the book of explaining it.
00:53:53.000But that sort of, you know, when you look at it that way and when you look at the fact that it's just a question of changing what you put into your body...
00:54:03.000You know, you will then eventually have this keto diet, for example.
00:54:08.000It's a really good way to lose weight and not have to restrict your calories.
00:54:47.000There's nothing wrong with eating a certain amount of carbs and breads and pastas, but it is universal that massive amounts of sugar are bad for you.
00:54:54.000I don't think there's any question anymore scientifically.
00:54:57.000But one of the things that's hard for very fat people, obese people, who have trouble with this, who may have gotten caught into that pattern as kids, and it's very true that some people genetically do put weight on, they don't process carbs the way other people do.
00:55:10.000Like, I can eat carbs all day and stay very thin.
00:55:17.000But for a long time, what I'm saying is that there's always been and still is a stigma, which is you're fat, which means you are of weak character or you have a faulty character.
00:55:27.000And that's why they take so much shit.
00:55:29.000Whereas Gary Taubin's book said a lot of it was just the fact that people didn't know how the body worked.
00:55:35.000And a lot of this information came out in Germany before the war.
00:55:38.000There were these Austrian and German scientists that were really closing in on what insulin does to make you gain weight.
00:56:02.000There's a fucking thing about Wernher von Braun being a great American.
00:56:06.000And, like, Wernher von Braun was a fucking Nazi.
00:56:08.000The guy who ran the NASA space program was a straight-up Nazi who the Simon Wiesenthal Center said if he was alive today, they would prosecute him for crimes against humanity.
00:57:43.000And what they just showed is that sometimes, and we've all known this, sometimes people that have done horrible, horrible things are also amazing at something that benefits a lot of folks.
00:59:49.000And his country was under direct threat.
00:59:51.000And he said, I think I know a way to help this war effort so we can stop the enemy.
00:59:56.000And you know, we should all, again, it's not what you think, it's how you think.
01:00:00.000We should all put ourselves in his shoes.
01:00:03.000If I had a way, and I think I'm right about that, if I had a way as an American, as Brian Callen, To save my country from people I thought were going to actually take it over or kill a bunch of people, including my family, I'm going to gas the fuck out of them if I can invent a technique.
01:00:19.000I'm going to gas them and I'm going to come up with a way to shoot a rocket at them.
01:00:24.000So if that makes me a bad person, call me Fritz.
01:00:26.000Well, isn't it crazy, though, that this guy was literally receiving the Nobel Prize for the Haber Method at the same time for being wanted for crimes against humanity.
01:01:38.000Dresden before and after the firebombing.
01:01:40.000But Curtis LeMay, I think in a period of eight days in Tokyo, I mean, one million people died from fire.
01:01:46.000And Curtis LeMay said, war is the business of killing people, and if I had been on the losing side, I'd probably be tried as a war criminal.
01:01:54.000And if you see Curtis LeMay, he's always chewing a cigar, and he was the commander, and he was the one who made those decisions.
01:02:00.000And he said, we're going to punish the German workers.
01:03:19.000Giant scale war is like that and and Europe what was it was it?
01:03:25.00050 million people at the end of World War two that were dead maybe as many as 80 million put that into context and that from those ashes from these experiments like fascism and The idea that you can perfect human beings and perfect society and create utopias from those experiments Came ash and 80 million graves,
01:03:52.000I mean, the idea, like, if you just wanted to improve upon human beings without killing people that you thought were inferior, if you just wanted to create the ubermunch without making everybody else die, But you need to re-educate.
01:04:07.000So re-education camps that Pol Pot would put people in.
01:04:10.000You had to be marched to the countryside because he was creating an agrarian utopia.
01:04:58.000You know, you get these jewels of art.
01:05:01.000You know, you get these people that come out of these horrible environments, and they have this power to them.
01:05:07.000But you have to create, you're right, you still have to create some respite.
01:05:12.000You know, the great Matthew Arnold who said that the United States is the land of stock market and big guns and powerful, you know, and agrarians that can feed the world.
01:05:23.000It's also the land of What he also said, I was going to say, he said, we have to always remember to create safe haven for our gentler spirits, our weirdos and people that think differently and act differently, because that's where you get Prince, Little Richard, Marilyn Manson, and all the things that make our culture interesting.
01:05:39.000And that's a very important thing to keep in mind.
01:05:42.000But again, look, when you talk about bombing and how we're getting better, think about for a second the methodology in our brain of how we, a lot of people, think of not only terrorism, and I'm guilty of this too, or even say something like cancer.
01:05:59.000So if you have cancer, there's one method of treating it, and sometimes it works, which is there's a tumor, let's cut it out.
01:06:13.000So you're talking now about the duality, is what I'm saying, is that we fall sometimes into the mindset that every problem can be cut out and removed, right?
01:06:53.000Because we could make the problem worse.
01:06:56.000And instead, sometimes we might want to say, maybe this time, maybe this is a problem that doesn't require cutting and radiation and, you know, removing.
01:07:42.000And when you get, by the way, when I was in Italy, one of the weirdest fucking things about it, and I've never been there before, so I don't know, but the people that were there were describing to me how everything has changed.
01:07:53.000I was talking to this one cab driver, he was a really interesting guy, and he was, we were commenting, I was asking him about, everywhere you look, they have these Land Rover Defenders that are in camo with these military people standing out there with fucking machine guns.
01:08:25.000He goes, they don't want it to happen here.
01:08:27.000So all the places where there was tourists, whether it was the Vatican, whether it was the Colosseum, you saw these camouflaged Land Rover defenders and these public displays of guns.
01:10:35.000Well, this is the other thing is, again, not only do they do that because they're fanatical, they think they're actually gonna change something and make the world a better place by behaving in this mad fashion, by killing children.
01:10:50.000In some way, they might, because they're gonna unleash the Jocko Willinks in the world.
01:10:53.000We're gonna go out there and they're gonna fucking kill people like this.
01:11:25.000You have to understand that that's not like they're all camped out in one area.
01:11:29.000They're in a town the size of, let's say, Baltimore, and they have safe houses, but for the most part, they're all over that place.
01:11:36.000But more importantly, as ISIS fighters die, what they do is they come to families that are peace-loving families, and they say, listen, we need to conscript your son.
01:14:26.000And I think the argument against that, that you should not have that because you're more likely to kill someone in your family, that's not a great argument either.
01:14:35.000I think on both sides, the real issue is mental health.
01:15:14.000If you were born in Iraq, or in Saudi Arabia, or in Afghanistan, or in any of these places where they're dealing with these ancient ideologies, you're fucked.
01:15:24.000It's like there's a race, and the race is 30 miles long, and you're starting out at mile one, where some people are at mile 29. There's no way.
01:15:40.000And there's got to be a way through either time or effort or just the sheer expression of ideas that permeate through this world.
01:15:52.000Where slowly but surely things have to even out to the point where people realize the correct way to behave and treat people.
01:16:01.000Look, you could say religious tolerance all you want, but when there's a fucking woman dressed like a ninja at the mall, that lady is not in a good place.
01:16:10.000She's being forced to dress like that.
01:16:29.000And I think that it makes their country weaker.
01:16:32.000If you categorize and, you know, creates these sort of fencing around an entire...
01:16:40.000Class of people and a gender if you take women and say you guys have to walk a little bit behind me You have we just know that that doesn't work.
01:16:48.000You're wasting a lot of human potential Yes, a lot of people with ideas that can make the world a better place You also you're stifling the debate and the discussion look there's a lot of people that think different than me man a lot of people whether they're From different parts of the world or whether they have different likes or dislikes and they have different Art that they appreciate and I I like hearing their point of view There's a lot of people that I don't agree with what they're saying and I like to hear what they say there's Radical
01:17:19.000feminists that I listen to their ideology and listen to what they're saying and I try to figure out where the fuck they're coming from and I try to figure out, okay, is this a direct response to something they've experienced in their life?
01:17:30.000Like, how much of this has to deal with them being persecuted?
01:17:34.000How much of what people say has to do with their direct experiences with the opposite sex?
01:17:53.000Well, how much of this anti-male sort of ideology that they're espousing, like how much of that comes from their direct experiences with men, and how different would it be if they grew up looking like Julia Roberts?
01:19:12.000Human beings are smart because they borrow culture.
01:19:15.000Human beings are smart because societies that excel have to be open and have to be open enough so that they can borrow the best things from other cultures.
01:19:26.000So, for example, if you and I are put in the middle of the Arctic, Unless we find a bunch of Inuit, we're dead in about three days.
01:19:35.000If you and I are in the Amazon, if you take an Inuit who can kick ass and find seal meat and everything else and put him in the Amazon, he doesn't have the culture.
01:19:44.000Human beings survive and grow and excel because we are really good at learning from each other, borrowing ideas.
01:19:51.000It's called the diffusion of innovation.
01:19:56.000And when you have societies that have these strong...
01:19:59.000Rules and these strong ideologies that keep people essentially restricted, you are not going to have the free flow exchange of ideas.
01:20:10.000Look at, for example, mixed martial arts.
01:20:13.000Think about where martial arts has come once the Ultimate Fighting Championship and the Gracies created this crazy thing where everybody got to fight everybody else.
01:20:39.000Wrestlers learn submissions and kickboxing and all that stuff.
01:20:41.000That's how societies, that's how innovation happens.
01:20:45.000That's the best way to get ideas to move forward.
01:20:48.000And again, the problem with this sort of countries that are restrictive, like Russia, like Saudi Arabia, with these strong sort of either cultures of power or cultures of religion, is that they create It's a very difficult atmosphere,
01:21:05.000not only to be open with your ideas, but to benefit from your ideas.
01:21:11.000You are not going to start a company like Apple in Russia when you know that the government, like Putin or whoever, could take it anytime they want.
01:21:43.000The Iran hostage crisis with Jimmy Carter and all that jazz.
01:21:48.000But if you really go back and think about what that was all about, and if you really look at the history of the United States intervention in the Middle East, it was really about controlling resources, controlling natural resources.
01:22:02.000But that was also about resources, too, because they were trying to...
01:22:05.000The Mujahideen, they were trying to control Afghanistan, and they wanted to get the natural gas pipelines.
01:22:09.000And there's a lot of it that deals with monopolizing natural resources and the amount of money that you can get from there.
01:22:15.000And then also the amount of natural resources that could be used to strengthen military regimes.
01:22:22.000There's a lot of control issues in that.
01:22:24.000But you didn't have the kind of terrorist activity...
01:22:29.000That you're having today, which also coincides with the freedom and expression of ideas and information at an unprecedented rate that we're all experiencing today.
01:22:39.000And the areas where this is not true, the areas where the freedom of expression and the tolerance of ideas...
01:22:46.000I mean, if you look at the United States, there's some nonsense that's going on today with political correctness, and there's some complete The left that's taken so far left that it almost becomes right because they're just completely...
01:23:25.000We are in the real marketplace of ideas.
01:23:28.000This is the boiling point of all these ideas where things are changing at this radical rate.
01:23:33.000And this is the world that is also being attacked.
01:23:39.000And really being opposed by this completely constricted world that really doesn't feel like it has a chance.
01:23:46.000Like, this world is trying desperately to cling to these old ways.
01:23:50.000I mean, if you look at what ISIS is, they are desperately trying to cling to these ancient religious ideologies that were established in a way that does not allow for the even exchange of ideas and information.
01:24:05.000And this new way is also attached, of course, to the military-industrial complex.
01:24:14.000It's also attached to the idea that there's hundreds of different military bases in hundreds of different countries where we're in control of massive amounts of people's safety.
01:24:25.000There hasn't been in the rest of the world.
01:24:26.000You know, terrorism, by the way, in the 70s, and I remember being in Rome Airport, they had plenty of guys with machine guns because of the Red Brigade.
01:25:00.000Because when you say there wasn't anything like ISIS, you're right.
01:25:03.000But, for example, in Indonesia, which was essentially an American ally, Indonesia had...
01:25:12.000Take a look at how many people in one year died during the communist purge, and I think it was 1965. By many accounts, there were probably one million people, most of whom were Sort of take the commando oxy.
01:25:29.000They were the sort of civilian conscripts that the military kind of recruited and said, find us the communists in your villages.
01:25:37.000And they were marched down to the river.
01:26:33.000He got banned from Twitter for writing a bad review about Ghostbusters, which essentially confirms what he said about the regressive left, is that they're trying to stifle ideas.
01:26:44.000And then they're saying that he's responsible for the harassment of Leslie Jones, which is horrible.
01:27:09.000What he did was make an incredible amount of sense when he was describing that you cannot make fun of this movie, you cannot criticize this movie, if you do, you're labeled a misogynist.
01:27:20.000And he talked about how preposterous this movie is, that these women are all out kicking ass, and every man in the movie is a buffoon, and the women don't have any negative traits or qualities at all.
01:27:29.000They're super powerful and super awesome and hilarious, and the humor is non-existent because they put them in this restrictive box.
01:28:25.000If you can stop people from being shitty to people, and you say, well, here's someone who's using Twitter, and they're going after people in a very shitty way, but...
01:28:33.000The problem with that is, look at how many fucking people have made shitty, horrible, evil comments about police officers.
01:28:45.000When it comes to safety, everyone plays a role.
01:28:48.000Please make that larger so I can read it.
01:28:50.000Twitter empowers every voice to shape the world, but you can't do that unless you feel safe and confident enough to express yourself freely and connect with the world around you.
01:29:02.000To help give your voice more power, Twitter does not tolerate behavior intended to harass, intimidate, or use fear to silence another user's voice.
01:29:39.000When they did that, he gained 20,000 new followers immediately because there was a massive backlash.
01:29:45.000So now they're in a place where there's even more backlash because if you look at the actual words that he typed, Versus what they're accusing him of and it just doesn't stack up It's clear that they don't like him because he's a Republican.
01:29:57.000He's a Trump supporter He and he is a fucking troll.
01:30:02.000I think he's hilarious He's a troll but in the marketplace of ideas, you should be able to combat his trolling behavior without gagging him Engage him In a debate,
01:30:18.000in a vigorous spirited debate, don't gag the guy.
01:30:28.000And if he's actually harassing people, if he's actually saying, hey, go find Leslie Jones and throw dog shit at her or do something horrible to her or slash her tires or something like that.
01:30:40.000If he's actually doing something like that, yeah.
01:31:54.000He thinks that they did it on purpose.
01:31:56.000He thinks Trump is a master troll and he thinks that the plagiarism was on purpose because now more people are talking about it and then more people are...
01:32:05.000I don't know if that's true, but I think it's hilarious that, did you know that his tweet, Trump's tweet that he put out to congratulate his wife for speaking is exactly verbatim the same tweet that Obama put out to congratulate his wife for speaking.
01:32:48.000That's another thing that they did with Leslie Jones, which she was really upset, is that trolls were taking words and putting them, like they were taking a photoshop and making her, like her name, like what she had, you know, her Twitter name, and then writing horrible shit about gay people.
01:33:38.000But I think what Leslie said, like, white people shit, it could have been that she was saying, like, someone did something, and goddamn white people, this is some white people shit.
01:35:33.000It was fucking Otto and George had a great line.
01:35:35.000You know, Otto and George, if you don't know, Otto was this fucking great, hilarious comedian who had a puppet named George, and his puppet was evil, and these bushy eyebrows.
01:35:45.000And the puppet would say these fucked up things, and Otto would go, ah, I can't believe you're saying that.
01:36:13.000It's part of being a human being, man.
01:36:16.000Well, there's a friend of mine who is dealing with these folks that are Jewish that are incredibly cheap.
01:36:23.000And this friend of mine was saying, like, how fucking embarrassing is it when someone just reenacts the most disgusting stereotype about a race?
01:36:34.000Like a Chinese guy that just closes his eyes and just drives straight into traffic.
01:36:41.000It's fucking horrible stereotypes that when you see them, you're like, oh, come on, man.
01:36:46.000If I was Chinese and I saw someone driving like that, I'd be like, you motherfucker!
01:36:49.000Do you know what I'm dealing with here?
01:36:52.000If there's an accident and I'm involved, people go, oh, of course!
01:38:25.000When I'm driving and I see a dude in his car and I see the back of his head, I can make a lot of fucking assumptions on how he's driving and whether or not he's going to signal.
01:40:28.000The Jews were like, I can make fucking really nice clothes and I can label them and I can get you to think that they're even nicer because I understand a little bit about marketing.
01:40:50.000You were taught that that's how you get ahead.
01:40:54.000And you were taught that holding on to your money is, by the way, also a way to ensure your survival.
01:40:58.000So the more you learn about, you know, the more you learn about a people's history, the more you learn about our biology, the more we learn about brain science, I think, the more compassionate it makes us.
01:41:09.000Well, that's also why a lot of people feel that some Asian folks are bad drivers because they're used to minding their own business, not looking left and right.
01:41:16.000And when they walk, they walk straight ahead and they bump into each other all the time.
01:42:38.000Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of cultures that have their own little thing that they do to sort of deal with the numbers that they're dealing with.
01:42:47.000And, you know, you see that in America, too.
01:42:49.000One of the things that I really like about small towns, when I go to a small...
01:42:53.000Like, I was in Bozeman, Montana recently.
01:42:55.000There's only 35,000 residents in Bozeman, Montana.
01:42:58.000It's a great town, and everybody drives really nice.
01:43:05.000See, people are like real easy going, let everybody, and I realize like, what you're dealing with in Los Angeles, like I felt it the moment I got off the plane when I went from Montana to here, the moment you get here, you're like, you gotta go, gotta go, cut this guy off, get ahead, gotta get it.
01:43:23.000And they did a study, and one of the things that they did a study on was they put up cameras in cities, and they measured the amount of footsteps that people take, like how quickly they walk.
01:43:36.000And then they measured how many syllables people say in a minute, how quickly they talk.
01:43:42.000And through those two numbers, they were able to accurately estimate how many people lived in that city, down to like a thousand.
01:44:33.000No, I was going to say Malcolm Gladwell in his book.
01:44:37.000I think it was Blink where you mentioned when people would come to his office and if you mentioned Florida, raisins and orange juice, people left the room a lot slower.
01:45:46.000There are a lot of rules that would penalize anybody, for example, young men for misbehaving by punching each other in the face or imposing their aggression on a weaker group of people.
01:45:57.000I think that's also how I characterize a liberal small academic town.
01:46:02.000They are safe, for the most part, safe environments for you to figure the world out and express yourself.
01:46:10.000Do you know what I'm saying about that?
01:46:11.000Yeah, safer, like Boulder's a good example of that.
01:47:06.000And he said, what I would notice, and everybody would notice, is that when the shootout was about to happen, or a fight was about to break out, he said there was almost like this...
01:47:15.000Like, whatever it was imagined or not, there would be this calm before the storm.
01:48:11.000He's got this great show called Uncharted.
01:48:13.000And it's kind of a hunting show, but not really.
01:48:16.000It's more of an exploration of culture because he travels to all these different countries and he really gets deeply embedded in their country.
01:48:43.000And the people in the village, man, it was fucking horrific.
01:48:46.000They would go through this village with cameras and people would be showing, like, this guy's missing an arm, this guy's missing a leg, this guy has a bite taken out of his head.
01:50:32.000Great Whites, they played, they had, this guy, Paul DeGelder, who did our podcast, Fighter and Kid, and he ended up losing his arm and his hand and his leg to a bull shark in Sydney Bay.
01:51:54.000Where Buddhists come from and meditation comes from and veganism comes from.
01:51:59.000And meat that doesn't have a central nervous system.
01:52:01.000Utopian ideologies and all these thoughts about what we're trying to do is, whether misguided or not, we're trying to strive towards improvement.
01:53:08.000And basically, as far as I looked, it was all his.
01:53:10.000And he said, by law, he needs to kill 21 deer a year on his property because deer are such a problem.
01:53:18.000You know, because there are no natural predators.
01:53:20.000There's another thing they've found out today, there's an article today, there was always these myths about mountain lions being loose in England, in the countryside.
01:55:24.000Because the mountain lion had jumped on the back of this fucking gigantic 900 pound bull elk and rode it for 150 yards and then taken it down.
01:57:44.000Look how the female's vagina has sort of adapted to deal with the male raping.
01:57:53.000They've created these bizarre pathways in their pussies.
01:57:57.000When you listen to Dan Carlin's Wrath of the Cons or you read History, And it was always, here we come, we're knocking down your walls, and we're selling everybody into slavery.
01:58:31.000It's really interesting how, I guess, women had to adapt and evolve.
01:58:35.000And this woman wrote an article, and I can't remember her name because it was pretty controversial, and she said that because so much of history women...
01:59:07.000But the other really controversial thing she said was that there are cases where women are turned on by aggressive sex, you know, being held down and all that stuff.
01:59:17.000And it's probably the fact that they had to evolve because otherwise they'd get injured if they didn't get lubricated.
01:59:24.000I read that and I was like, well, good luck with that.
02:00:12.000There's a New York Times article they wrote where they were saying that he altered the carbon footprint of human beings on Earth, a measurable altering of the carbon footprint because it killed so many people.
02:00:25.000You could measure the difference in the amount of people that were there before him and after him by core samples.
02:00:33.000Well, you know, Hitler did something similar in the Russian countryside.
02:00:36.000He killed entire villages because he was trying to clear an area for sort of the migration of the German peoples.
02:00:45.000The idea that, you know, let's get rid of these sort of people that think and talk differently and let's create a utopia.
02:00:52.000Well, what Genghis Khan did that was so fucked up is he did it all before there was even guns.
02:01:50.000Very controversial, but of course, with everything, it goes back to exactly what we were talking about, where Where when you come up in the ghetto, you might just create Miles Davis.
02:01:59.000I mean, there's a lot of heartache and terrible things, and from shit is the brightest flower, that kind of stuff.
02:02:04.000Yeah, and once there's enough time passed, then you can sort of look at it with this distance, and you can kind of objectively look at it and go, well, you know, here's the benefit of that.
02:02:15.000Where that doesn't really hold up, though, is if you look at where the bulk of innovation and artistic expression on a high level came out of.
02:03:12.000Look at, in today's world, the amount of innovation that's coming out of a peaceful society, and a society that respects other people's ideas, and a society that, for the most part, at least from a historical perspective, gives a great deal of freedom and benefit to those that have the guts to come up with their own ideas.
02:03:32.000Well, that's the interesting aspect about what the United States is as this Experiment and self-government and what it is what it started off as what it is currently Is that this is the most recent of countries and it's also the one that has overwhelmingly the most innovation the most artistic Contributions we're pioneers,
02:03:55.000but there's so much that comes out of here in terms of comedy Film.
02:04:00.000I mean, obviously the rest of the world has its contributions.
02:04:03.000I'm not saying that the United States is the best.
02:04:05.000I mean, the Beatles came out of England.
02:04:06.000There's a lot of amazing works of art that come out all over the world.
02:04:09.000But this country is a hotbed of artistic expression and innovation.
02:05:08.000I mean, what he did to Baghdad in 1260. Yeah, well they say that to this day Baghdad maybe still hasn't recovered from them invading and they said that the rivers ran red with blood and ink, black with ink, like all the amazing works.
02:05:24.000The libraries burned and everything else.
02:05:25.000Yeah, Islamic scholars throughout history were like innovators.
02:05:29.000They were like the head of math, philosophy, of course.
02:05:34.000And a lot of people say that the Middle East has never even recovered, has never quite recovered from that.
02:05:40.000But, you know, there are so many important things for why a nation, you know, for example, one is that your political parties that lose Live to see another day.
02:05:53.000When you lose an election in a lot of countries, like the hardliners, and somebody said to me, I said, why are the hardliners in Iran such a pain in the ass?
02:06:00.000He goes, because if they lose, they will die.
02:06:03.000That's a very important thing to keep in mind.
02:06:05.000So when you have power and your survival depends on holding on to power, you're going to have a secret police that basically is pretty brutal when they sniff any kind of insurrection.
02:06:38.000But our country and the UK and Australia and Canada and a couple other countries, when you lose, democracy is built on the idea that when your political party loses, you live to see another day and fight on.
02:07:08.000Let's base reality on what you can measure and what you can see.
02:07:13.000Those things are so fucking important.
02:07:15.000If you don't have those Those central principles as a through line, if that's not the scaffolding of your society, you're just not going to do as well as a country like the United States.
02:07:28.000You're not going to have people that innovate because there's no fucking incentive.
02:07:42.000You don't have the ability to express yourself.
02:07:44.000You don't have the ability to take chances.
02:07:46.000Yeah, so the irony, the ironic thing is when you're sensitive and nice to people, when you're empathetic, and when you're respectful of other people, even the ones you disagree with, You make a stronger society.
02:07:59.000Your society is stronger in every way, including militarily.
02:08:03.000Including you have more innovation with weaponry.
02:09:07.000Yeah, we've been talking about that recently, that I think that people have a massive overestimation, massive, of what they can and can't do with their body.