The 500 is a production of Native Creative Podcasts. New Artist/Song influenced by Metallica: Mooze Live with James Hetfield (Live at Wembley Stadium) MOOZE is a hard rock band from the late 90s and early 00s. They are a rock band with a rock and roll sound and a unique style that is still going strong 20 years after releasing their first album. In this episode of the 500, we sit down with the band and talk about their new album, "Caveman" and what it means to be a rock & roll band in the 21st century. We also talk about the importance of being honest in your music and how important it is to be authentic in your lyrics and music delivery. We talk about what it takes to be successful in music, and why it's important to be honest in everything you do. We hope you enjoy this episode, and stay tuned for more! Thank you so much for listening and supporting Native Creative. We can't wait to do more of these interviews and podcasts in the future. . . . and thank you to everyone who has been a part of this journey with us and supported us along the way. , and we appreciate all the love, support, support and support we've gotten so far. We're looking forward to seeing you all in 2020. Thank you for all the support, and supporting us in 2020 and beyond! , . Music by Native Creative - MOOze. -MOOZE and MOOOSE (MOOOSE (Live with James Heetfield & Coachella POD (featuring MOOOKEVIN) - is a tribute to the late James HETFIELD in the new album "Cavesman LIVE with James & Sons by MOOose with James and the boys at Wembley Wembley Stadium on November 15th, 2020 at the Wembley Bowl Come check out the amazing MOOONE at Wembley at Wembley @ Wembley Stadium on November 16th, 19th, 20th, 21st, 27th, 28th, 29th, 26th, 2019 and 30th, July, 2019 at the Union St. St. Ave @ Union St., 6th St. Crescendo, 6th, & 27th St, St. Pete, NYC, New York, NY
00:00:58.000There's a transition that very successful people make, and either they make it or they don't.
00:01:03.000And the transition is to go from being hungry and filled with all this angst to being stupid, wealthy, and famous, but still keeping your art relevant.
00:03:03.000It's refreshing to see a band that's been at it for a long time, that's super successful, that still goes after it.
00:03:10.000Yeah, the thing that bugs me a lot is when people say, you know, okay, now that you're sober or now that you're matured, now all this, and you've worked out all your demons and things like that, that your music's going to be all soft and flowery and...
00:03:28.000I tell you, if I could exercise all those demons, I would have.
00:03:58.000I get to watch people at our shows transform from, God, I just took my tie off, or I still have my friggin' briefcase, you know, like, handcuffed to me.
00:04:11.000I want out of this, and I get to let loose, and I get to see these people transform and watch music do stuff to them.
00:04:20.000Yeah, transform's the right word, right?
00:06:45.000We get to look at the Gore Range right out of our mountain, and I've drank plenty of Coors Lights in my life, and that's the one on the can.
00:10:09.000It's so absorbed with one aspect of society, technology and cell phones and the internet and electric cars.
00:10:17.000And it's so locked into that one sort of mode of being that I think a guy like you goes out there and shoots an elk or something like that.
00:10:26.000It's probably a little creepy to them.
00:10:28.000Well, I just think I feel more at home in the Midwest or the mountains or something.
00:10:54.000You were doing that show, The Hunt, that show, what is it, on History Channel or something like that, where it was all about grizzly bear hunting.
00:11:02.000You were doing the narration for that.
00:11:04.000And I saw this crazy blowback because of that, where people wanted to boycott a music festival that you guys were on, and there was photos of...
00:11:15.000Another guy, who wasn't you, they were getting circled around, they were saying it was you that killed a grizzly bear, and they were saying, we have to ban this, this is hard.
00:11:40.000I don't think they understand that someone can be as passionate about something else As passionate as they are about what they are passionate about.
00:11:53.000So if you're as passionate about something, there's someone who's the opposite.
00:15:09.000I had a friend who Who, in his backyard, he probably had six hives, and he had this one really intense kind of rogue hive where maybe the queen had some kind of strain of Africanized or something, and his wife could not go out in the backyard without being attacked.
00:15:30.000So he says, hey, can I go put my bees on your property so they can cycle this queen out?
00:15:37.000They got some breeding, and it was just off.
00:16:46.000Yeah, but he's kind of used to it, and she was not.
00:16:50.000She was out to go swimming or something.
00:16:51.000So he would go out there, and they would get crazy with him, but he's like, this doesn't bother me, but she was like, fuck this queen, fuck this hive.
00:19:16.000And I think being stung by bees helps you too.
00:19:19.000It helps with something getting your immune system built up to the...
00:19:23.000It's supposed to be really good for arthritis.
00:19:25.000They take people, like literally take bees, people that have serious arthritis in their hands, and they sting their hands with it on purpose.
00:19:33.000I think there's some people that do it for their lips here in L.A., I think you need people that are so deep, deep, deep in the bee world, because you're not going to do it and I'm not going to do it, but if someone's just so far gone, they're measuring all their bees and monitoring their flight patterns and checking their DNA,
00:19:51.000I'm just fascinated that there was a clear differentiation between a normal bee And the way these bees were behaving.
00:19:58.000You could tell that the queen was kind of a freak.
00:20:01.000But I tell you, those freak bees, the Africanized or whatever, now there's a zombie bee and we can get into that too.
00:20:08.000But they are aggressive and an aggressive, you know, like any society, they do well.
00:20:18.000They produce a lot of honey, and they're very, very prolific in what they do.
00:20:32.000Killer bee honey is better than regular honey, but it's just pretty dope to have killer bee honey around your house.
00:20:38.000Well, yeah, you know, that and the, gosh, what's this stuff called?
00:20:45.000I mean, there's lots of really cool healing properties in, like, even the kind of glue that they use to plug up holes and, you know, the royal jelly, which is, you know, comes from their, like, the brain, and that's how they produce a queen.
00:22:53.000And if there's three or four queen cells in there, the first queen that's born, she comes out and she kills all the other queens so she can rule.
00:23:12.000I'm just looking at websites in my head.
00:23:14.000I'm trying to find out where to get the bees.
00:23:15.000Yeah, that sounds like an amazing way to get honey.
00:23:18.000I mean, it just sounds like a really cool thing to do, too.
00:23:21.000It tastes so good, and we've got, you know, we have a place in Hawaii, so we've got Hawaiian-flavored, Hawaiian-flavored, well, there's stuff, you know, that they get the nectar and pollen from over there, and, you know, Hawaii is nonstop, you know,
00:24:20.000But there was a big concern that they were going to take over and that it was going to be that these bees were just going to come here and outbreed the regular bees.
00:24:38.000I'm somewhat into it, but I haven't investigated that part yet.
00:24:42.000So these bees that came over from the perhaps Africanized bees that when they killed the queen and then introduced those bees to the rest of the bees, did everybody chill out?
00:25:24.000And without them, I mean, there's lots of, you know, orange, almonds, all kinds of stuff, especially here in California, in the center of California, all that farming.
00:26:07.000They don't have a hive society like the honey bees do, but all these other bees are like loners.
00:26:14.000They live in the ground or something, and they just get enough pollen for themselves.
00:26:20.000So they're kind of lone wolves out there, but the honey bees are the ones that have more of a society.
00:26:27.000I raise chickens, and the chicken thing with us happened.
00:26:32.000We just got a couple chickens, and next thing you know, we got this giant fucking chicken house with 23 chickens, and they're running around my yard.
00:27:32.000I don't have one of those, but I got a couple different kinds of hives, and it's fun to see.
00:27:37.000You know, sometimes you have the frames that...
00:27:40.000Are already kind of pre-built, and then they just deposit their stuff in it, or you watch them grow their own comb from nothing, and it's pretty amazing.
00:27:49.000How do you get them to stay there, though?
00:28:10.000And if she's there, you know, when they go off to, they swarm to go find a new hive.
00:28:16.000If you've ever seen a swarm up in a tree, just like a giant, like football size or even bigger, a shape of just bees, that queen is right in the middle and they're all just around her.
00:28:29.000And then they send off the scouts to find a new spot.
00:28:33.000They come back and say, hey, it's over here.
00:28:35.000They do their little wiggle dance and that shows them how to get there and they all go there.
00:28:40.000We had an incident once on Fear Factor where we covered these people with bees.
00:28:43.000There was like a beekeeper there and he had his hive and a local hive came over and a group of bees came over and met with these bees and we had to clear the area out and they had to have a conversation.
00:28:56.000They were in the air, just floating around, and then they worked it out, and then our bees came back, and they went back to the hive, and their bees went about their business.
00:29:04.000They were just like, what the fuck's going on?
00:31:13.000I've planted stuff that, you know, okay, it blooms in the spring, and then there's other stuff that blooms in the summer, and then there's other stuff that blooms, you know, like in the late summer.
00:31:22.000So they've always got something going on.
00:32:42.000I remember hearing about Neil Young's place, that he's got some giant ranch up there, and Neil Young just goes and chills out.
00:32:47.000Apparently he has speakers set up around a lake where he can be on a boat and push the boat out into the middle of the lake, and the speakers will broadcast.
00:33:05.000It didn't really catch on for some reason because people are just so attached to listen to music on their phones now, but it's an amazing little device.
00:33:11.000To really put that much effort and intention into something that's not really necessary in the modern world just shows you what a serious audiophile that guy is.
00:33:48.000Yeah, I mean, for a guy like you that is...
00:33:51.000I mean, I think you've found, like, this really amazing and enviable balance between the arena shows and all the fucking craziness of rock and then chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp.
00:34:04.000You know, like, you've kind of like, ouch, ouch, fucker.
00:36:00.000Well, it's also, I mean, I gotta imagine that you guys have to realize what an unbelievably fortunate and amazing experience you guys are on.
00:36:11.000I mean, how many people have a dream when they're kids of being a fucking rock star?
00:36:17.000How many people get to be in Metallica?
00:36:40.000It is hard at times, being on the road, doing stuff, and when you don't want to do stuff, you do it, but then you find something, you find someone, you find a thing, and it's usually someone in the crowd that's just, you know,
00:39:54.000Let's be the ones that stand up for artists.
00:39:58.000And he grabbed the flag and said, I'm going.
00:40:03.000And there were lots of other musicians and people that were...
00:40:09.000On board as well, but they weren't as vocal or taking the hits like he did.
00:40:14.000There was something about, you know, even like a Dr. Dre, he was on board with it, but for some reason in the rap world, it's like, well, it's all about money anyway, so what?
00:40:27.000For heavy metal, there was some kind of stigma around...
00:40:31.000You know, you're an asshole if you're rich or if you've been successful or something.
00:40:36.000It's like, we got to pull you down into hell with us, you know?
00:41:37.000We acknowledge that, yeah, there's an inspiration somewhere for everything, but blatantly taking that and using it is pretty frustrating to me.
00:41:47.000And we were at that point where we had...
00:41:53.000Such a following we had such a strength in Metallica that we survived all of that stuff But there was a lot of bands that didn't you know They couldn't sustain themselves couldn't feed their families because of what happened and I think the frustrating part was no one really understood that Music is our life.
00:42:16.000You know if you take that If you take our...
00:42:22.000like the way we want to present our music is part of the art.
00:42:27.000Like in an album, meaning like one song leads to the next song?
00:43:18.000But also, you know, when you look at the record deals, the deals that record companies make with artists, and you see, like, what are record companies selling?
00:43:26.000Well, they're only selling your work, without your work, without your creativity, without your creations.
00:43:34.000But then you look at these insanely one-sided deals that they cut with artists, especially emerging artists that might be a little bit more desperate, don't realize the potential, especially the potential for income that they might have in the future.
00:43:48.000There was that one that somebody said that Courtney Love didn't really write it, that it was ghost written.
00:43:53.000I don't know who the fuck wrote it, but Courtney Love put it out saying that she wrote it, but it was a breakdown of how artists make money.
00:44:00.000From the creation of an album, to having it sold in record stores, to where the money gets extracted, and how much is left for the actual artist.
00:46:26.000He's coming up with different ways of doing vinyls and colors and hidden tracks and cool stuff like that.
00:46:33.000And it's just another way to get creative in your career.
00:46:38.000Is vinyl what's selling more than anything now when it comes to actual physical hard copies of things?
00:46:46.000I don't know the numbers, and they probably vary all over the place, but vinyl has never gone away.
00:46:53.000I don't know if it's coming back, but it's more popular than it was.
00:46:58.000I think there's just something tactile about it.
00:47:01.000There's something great that people are finally understanding.
00:47:04.000That you can look at artwork, you can feel it, and then the ritualization of opening up the player, taking it out and blowing on it, cleaning it, putting it down, setting the needle down.
00:50:45.000Maybe the friggin' goggles or some kind of audio-visual stuff will reproduce live shows, but there's something about being next to a sweaty fucker at a gig and them pushing you or seeing someone headbang wildly or getting thrown over the top of you.
00:51:06.000There's just so much smells, things like that, that just can't be recreated.
00:51:11.000So live music, my daughter just like, I can't believe that guy just pressed a button on his computer and he's singing over his own music.
00:52:41.000But I've seen shows where there's that going on, and then they'll get real.
00:52:46.000You know, like, sit down on a couch, plug it in acoustic, and sing at a key, and, like, really try and struggle with the song, or sing it, you know.
00:53:10.000You're breaking it down to the bare bones, just a guitar and two people singing or something.
00:53:14.000Yeah, that is pretty intimidating, I tell you, when we do like that Neil Young benefit where it's, you know, acoustic only, and you're friggin' naked up there, dude.
00:53:25.000Every note is like, you know, and every fuck up on the vocal.
00:53:58.000Yeah, you see a Photoshop of yourself, and it's like, you know, they smoothed out all your lines, and you're like, what the fuck are you doing?
00:54:06.000Sometimes you gotta do it, or like, you know, if you're in a band, like I am, and the three guys get the stuff put on, and then I show up, it's like, dude, oh my god, you're shiny!
00:54:31.000There's what's really happening, and there's how people look at it.
00:54:34.000And what's really happening was all of a sudden this door got opened up, or this Pandora's box got opened.
00:54:40.000And you guys were looking at it going, whoa, we're going to lose our record sales.
00:54:45.000Do you understand that people have been consuming music in a certain way, you've been paying for music, and that paying for music is supported.
00:54:53.000All these people that are a part of this industry that makes albums, there's this gigantic thing behind it, this is all gonna go away, because you just put a hole in the bottom of it and all the money's gonna get dropped out.
00:55:04.000But then the way it looks is, look at this rich motherfucker, you know, he doesn't appreciate his fans, hey man, I can't afford your album right now, is it okay if I just download it for free?
00:55:17.000A lot of people thought, well, hey, people who can afford it will still be downloading it, and then they'll buy it when they can.
00:55:25.000But that wasn't really the case, was it?
00:55:29.000You know, I'm all for convenience in the technology moving forward.
00:55:35.000Getting music out to people is the important part.
00:55:38.000But just make sure the artist gets what they deserve from it.
00:55:43.000Because without that, it's going to become a hobby.
00:55:47.000No one wants, you know, I don't want to see the paramedic show up at my house and it's like a hobby for him.
00:55:53.000Hey, you know, I'm not really getting paid for what I think I should get paid for, my creation, but I guess I'll save your life, you know, maybe.
00:56:04.000People didn't relate that to their career or something equivalent.
00:56:12.000Well, I think because the money wasn't equivalent.
00:56:14.000They looked at you guys like, you guys are already so rich.
00:57:53.000And what it seems like to me, and I could be talking out my ass, but the record companies dropped the ball and the new record companies became iTunes.
01:00:37.000Pharrell made only $2,700,000 in songwriting royalties from 43 million plays of his song that I can't look at the ad because it's a fucking ad blocker.
01:01:52.000One of the things that I loved about your new album is it's totally clear 100% that this is a real Metallica album.
01:01:58.000This isn't just some, hey man, we need to make some money, let's slap together some shitty ideas and make a Metallica album out of it, and we know how to do it.
01:02:37.000That's going to be much of shitty CGI and explosions and a hot girl and the guy and the girl kiss at the end and fuck you, I saw it all coming.
01:02:45.000Yeah, it's been done before because you're just slapping together a formula, and that stuff drives people nuts when you know that someone is doing something just for money.
01:02:53.000So whenever money gets discussed, people automatically get that sort of weird distaste, like, oh, it's money.
01:03:50.000The last sperm, the fucking last survivor with a one-eyed sperm with a fucking axe wound across his face, marches through the battlefield and punches through that egg.
01:04:36.000You know, the Stones, music-wise, and the rest of the band, you know, they're doing what they've always done, but it's not the physicality like, say, Metallica has.
01:04:46.000So, you know, Charlie Watts is not Lars Ulrich.
01:06:04.000Take some vitamins, get back out there, bitch.
01:06:06.000Yeah, well, I'll tell you, out of the big four, if you know the big four, Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth, Anthrax, these four bands that are still going, and unbelievably, after 35 years, Myself, Dave Mustaine, and Tom Mariah have all had neck surgery from all of this headbanging.
01:07:18.000Because it's the only way to legitimately stretch your neck.
01:07:21.000And a lot of spinal decompression, a lot of bulging discs and the pain and discomfort associated with it, you can mitigate a lot of that with one of those things.
01:08:00.000Yeah, not just that, but just the posture of your guitar.
01:08:04.000You're playing really low and you're down.
01:08:08.000There's posture stuff, but I agree that making it straight, making your back straight is harder now than it was.
01:08:16.000You know, leaning against the wall and thinking, wow, I don't want to be that old dude, you know, who's hunched over the middle of his back as like a friggin', you know, like the hunchback at Notre Dame or something.
01:09:53.000He's completely out of his fucking mind.
01:09:55.000He's been on steroids straight since 1976. He's never gone off of them.
01:09:59.000Well, he's pointing at that lady like something's happening.
01:10:02.000So fuck, Liz is explaining what it does to your back.
01:10:06.000But that machine, man, anybody with back issues, any back issue at all, because what that machine does is it allows your back to actively decompress from the lower back all the way up to your neck area.
01:10:19.000And it strengthens everything and decompresses it.
01:10:23.000It stretches all that tissue out and pulls all the fascia and all that stuff out.
01:10:30.000You can see him demonstrating it here.
01:10:32.000When this woman gets up there, see as it goes down, it's actually pulling your back.
01:10:37.000And that's like the only exercise that I've ever seen that decompresses and then on the lift up, strengthens all those muscles, and then on the way down, it pulls them down.
01:10:45.000I have a bunch of different things in the back, because I've had some disc issues myself, but I took care of all of them without surgery.
01:12:39.000Well, I mean, I've done things where, you know, okay, we're going to ask your body some questions, and here, put this statement against your chest, or here, where are these colored glasses, and, you know, here's tuning forks on your body, you know, things like that, you know.
01:15:05.000I don't want to continue a rumor, but just hearing that, yeah, some of the guys in the Stones will have their decorator come in and they've decorated their hotel room like their home or something, put their favorite things in there and all that, and then they're there for a night and then they go off to the next place,
01:21:15.000People will make fun of that, and they'll take advantage of it sometimes, but most of the times, people will relate to it, like, ah, he's human.
01:24:01.000Fear was a big motivator in that for me.
01:24:06.000Losing my family, that was the thing that scared me so much, that was the bottom I hit, that my family's gonna go away because of my behaviors that I brought home from the road.
01:24:19.000I got kicked out of the house by my wife.
01:25:37.000Well, what worked for me was seven weeks someplace.
01:25:44.000Like, basically tearing you down to bones.
01:25:50.000Ripping your life apart, anything you thought about yourself or what it was, anything you thought you had, your family, your career, your anything, gone.
01:26:00.000Strip you down to just, okay, you're born.
01:26:04.000Here's how you were when you were born.
01:26:34.000I didn't know what I could or what I should or shouldn't do, you know?
01:26:39.000So the last place we went to was a place that helps relationships.
01:26:44.000So they got me and my wife together and we'd see people separately and then come together and talk about what we did and communication friggin saved my life, saved our family and working through that stuff.
01:28:07.000Did it start out when you first started doing it?
01:28:10.000Did it feel like as you broke through and you went to therapy and you got out of rehab and you're going through this whole thing, was there a shaky leg period where you're like, man, do I know who I am anymore?
01:29:23.000I gotta accept him, you know, and quit running from him and pretending like I am some immovable object on stage that's tough and, you know, nothing can do, you know, nothing can hurt me.
01:29:35.000But inside, you know, it's kind of a cliche saying, you know, the harder that external shield, the softer the inside and the more vulnerable and balancing that, you know.
01:29:49.000Almost like you're concentrating so much on the hard outside that you ignore the inside.
01:29:55.000And then you lose yourself in that other person.
01:29:58.000And yeah, being in a band certainly accelerated that.
01:30:04.000You know, there was drink and drug and all kinds of stuff just thrown at you all the time, and it starts off as a fun little thing, and then it turns into an escape, and then all of a sudden you don't remember why you're out there doing stuff.
01:30:18.000I went on tour just so I could go to the strip club.
01:30:21.000Hey, we're going to this place, you know, or we're going to drink here, and, you know, knew all that stuff.
01:30:26.000But the actual playing on stage, it kind of got...
01:30:33.000We get caught up in the rock star stuff.
01:30:35.000There's a song on this album called Moth Into Flame that directly talks about how fame can be this crazy drug and it can completely take you over if you let it.
01:30:49.000You're searching for that thing that's going to save you and it's you.
01:31:12.000But it seems like for someone who's as famous as that, who gets on stage and thousands of people just...
01:31:23.000Going fucking crazy and you're up there.
01:31:25.000I mean that has got to be intoxicating and confusing and oftentimes I feel like people are a prisoner to whatever image that either they projected initially or it becomes how the public perceives them because of all their success and because of the fact they go on stage and a hundred thousand people go fucking apeshit.
01:31:48.000What What is that like trying to find yourself while you're also...
01:32:26.000They have their own vision or version of me, just like I had my own version of Lemmy.
01:32:31.000You know, there's this thing that it was strong.
01:32:33.000And, you know, these people expect me to be a certain way.
01:32:37.000And when they meet you in normal life, you're sitting with your family eating or you're frigging in the supermarket, you know, throwing salad on some guy, you're...
01:32:49.000People want you to do the thing you do.
01:32:51.000Hey, headbang, jump up on the salad bar and rock out or something.
01:37:49.000Almost no one's prepared for, I don't think.
01:37:51.000I don't think there's a single human being that can do that and not be somewhat affected by it, or at least need a lot of decompression, a lot of downtime to sort that out, which, hence Vale.
01:38:04.000Yeah, it's like, you go out into the mountains...
01:38:08.000Nature doesn't give a shit who you are.
01:38:10.000Mother Nature will kick your ass, you know, and leave you frozen and, you know, lost.
01:40:10.000Yeah, I got turned on to it by those guys.
01:40:13.000Yeah, you know, it can get pretty cold and scary up there, and it's fun.
01:40:18.000Well, Kuyu represents to me this really interesting sort of integration of technology and almost like gadget geek mindset applied to hunting to make the very best stuff.
01:40:32.000So as soon as I saw that you got a Kuyu pattern on your guitar, I'm like, oh, he's in deep.
01:41:45.000You know, I like the venison, but elk, that's probably the thing I would eat nonstop.
01:41:52.000Yeah, people who have never tried it before, really, I mean, you can get it in a restaurant, but you're getting it from New Zealand, and it's not going to be as fresh, and it's not the same, but it's an unbelievable meat.
01:42:02.000Well, pulling it out of your freezer and making it there for your kids, I mean, there's nothing more organic than that.
01:42:09.000Especially when you know specifically where it came from.
01:44:40.000It's a good way to just, because you can't think about anything else other than that target in order to do it right, especially when you're shooting it like 70 yards or something long.
01:45:44.000I got a Matthews that I really love, and who knows, next year, like you said, the technology, just the way they pull, the way they balance, and all that stuff that, like you said, with a gun...
01:45:55.000You know, guns have come a lot of ways, a long ways too.
01:45:59.000I got this awesome fierce gun that, you know, carbon fiber barrel and it's super lightweight for packing in, you know, it's down to like six pounds, you know, with the scope on it.
01:46:36.000I know guys who actually eat, like, they'll take pine leaves and chew them up inside their mouth just so that their breath doesn't come off as some meat-eating monster predator to a deer or an elk.
01:47:20.000It has to be directly on you, and the ozone somehow attaches itself to your scent molecules, and then when the deer gets it, he's like, what in the fuck is this?
01:48:51.000But if you're wearing merino wool, especially like base layers, it actually absorbs most of the smell.
01:48:57.000So you think the baby wipes do good or bad?
01:49:00.000Well, baby wipes, it's probably better not to smell like shit, especially human shit.
01:49:05.000You don't want to smell like a fake cleaning product either.
01:49:09.000Maybe the fake cleaning product won't.
01:49:11.000I think anything odd to a deer is probably not good, but I think there's probably specific predator smells that we, you know, unless you're like a strict vegetarian who also hunts.
01:49:23.000I would imagine you probably smell like a killer.
01:50:23.000I wanted to get into voiceover stuff, so that was offered to me.
01:50:28.000Yeah, I probably could have had a choice whether I did it or not, but that's what that was.
01:50:35.000I think the main head-butting happened when I did that show and then we went to go do Glastonbury, which is like the ultimate celebration of English hippiedom.
01:50:50.000And they somehow caught wind that I'd been, you know, Oh, he's a hunter.
01:51:57.000And they come to a spot, and they start getting shot at, and it's these bears come out of the woods, and they've shot the hunters, and they become the hunter, and the crowd loved it, you know?
01:52:16.000So it kind of just instantly diffused all that bullshit, and, you know, when you're able to, like, We said earlier, make fun of yourself and make fun of controversy.
01:54:14.000This was less fatty because it was, you know, spring bear, and then, you know, they were out, you know, they just come out of hibernation, so it's not my favorite thing, so I probably wouldn't hunt it again, because I do like to eat what I harvest,
01:54:50.000And we were in this little hut that was super short because, you know, it's really, really cold out there and there was like about eight feet of snow.
01:55:00.000And, yeah, you're in this little hut that's really short to keep warm, you know?
01:55:05.000And the hunter, the guides out there, they had AK-47s, you know, It was pretty scary.
01:55:15.000We probably flew two hours in this thing that looked like it survived World War I. Well, it wasn't around World War I, but survived World War II. And it was exhaust down the side and no seats.