In this episode, we talk about the wage gap between men and women in the tech industry, and what it means to be a woman in tech and a man in tech. We also talk about why women are paying less than men for the same amount of work, and why men are more likely to get into tech. We also discuss the fact that women are getting paid less than their male co-workers, and how this might be a good thing, because men tend to be more ambitious and driven, and get paid more because of it, and women tend to get paid less because of the lack of work they do. Also, we discuss why women should be paid more than men, because they have to work more hours and are better at their jobs than men do, and the benefits that come with those jobs, like maternity leave and parental leave. We finish up with some listener mail, and then we're off to the races! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. Art by Skynet. Thank you to our sponsor, VaynerMedia. Please rate, review, and subscribe to our podcast, and spread the word to your friends about this podcast! If you like what you hear, share it on your socials, and tell us what you think about it! We'll be looking out for us in next week's next week! Timestamps: 5 stars! 6 stars 7 stars 8 stars 9 stars 10 stars 11 stars 12 stars 13 stars 14 stars 15 stars 16 stars 17 stars 18 stars 19 stars 16 thumbs up! 17 thumbs up? 18 thumbs down! 19 thumbs down? 21 stars 22 thumbs down 18 points 19 20 thumbs down?! 22 stars 21 points! 21 15 14 24 thumbs up 17 points 19 points 20 points 16 points 22 points 15 points 21 up 22 13 points 24 points 18 23 points 14 points 13 26 25 points 23 27 points 26 points 25 6 4 7 12 8 points 27 28 points 17 10 5
00:00:26.000You definitely don't sound like a woman.
00:00:28.000Whenever I call for, like, tech support, they'll lead me through the first few steps, and then I'll be like, alright, and then I hit delete, and they'll be like, no, man, what you do is...
00:00:38.000And then it's like, it's too far into it for me to correct them, because it feels too...
00:00:43.000I'm too embarrassed to correct them at that point.
00:00:45.000So then I just let them assume I'm a woman for the rest of the call.
00:00:50.000And it's weird because then you see what it's like to be treated like a woman.
00:00:54.000I find that they talk down to you more.
00:01:56.000Well, because there's, you know, there's this sort of like postmodern feminism coming back where, you know, with the lean in and the like, you know, women really, they really are going to start getting, I think they're still making like 80 cents on a dollar.
00:02:16.000When they say women make 80 cents on the dollar?
00:02:18.000It means overall women make 80 cents compared to the dollar that men make, but not for the same jobs.
00:02:24.000When women and men are making the same, when they're doing the same job, The problem with that statistic is it leads you to believe that a man and a woman are working alongside each other, doing the exact same amount of work, the same amount of hours, but the woman makes less.
00:02:39.000Well, there's a lot of executives that have been found out to be—I know a couple that are executives that were doing the same job, leading the sales team and making less money.
00:03:31.000You're talking about it as if there's some sort of discrimination, when in fact there's a natural tendency that a lot of women have to choose different jobs.
00:03:39.000As far as nursing, overwhelmingly, it's predominantly women.
00:03:45.000So you're saying if you take the total amount women make versus the total amount men make- That's where the 80 cents of the dollar comes from.
00:03:51.000There's a difference, but it's the job choices you're saying that are different.
00:13:51.000And so I walk in, and everybody's drinking Pabst Blue Ribbons.
00:13:54.000This is like 7 o'clock in the morning.
00:13:56.000Everybody's drinking Pabst Blue Ribbons, and they give me this joint to smoke, which I didn't expect it to be that strong, and I was ripped out of my mind.
00:14:06.000So I go into the studio, and Bubba has a 12-gauge Israeli handgun, which is a fucking monster.
00:16:15.000Um, but he had like a limo driver, and apparently he pulled out a gun, he was like playing with a gun, and accidentally shot and killed his limo driver.
00:18:07.000Alright, what if, here's a more innocuous situation, you're driving down an alley late at night, and a homeless person walks out in front of your car, and you hit him, and he dies.
00:18:20.000You can either just drive away, wash your car, and know that a homeless guy is no more.
00:18:28.000Or you can go get the police and say, I was speeding, and I killed a man.
00:18:38.000Isn't it fascinating that when you say that story, when you give that scenario, that a homeless person in some way or another makes it less fucked up?
00:18:50.000No, I just mean in terms of the family blaming you for it.
00:18:56.000But even so, it's not as bad a scenario as hitting a nice person who's got their shit together.
00:19:06.000Well, it's like if you kill somebody and you get sued by the family, depending on it, like if you kill a child and you get sued, you don't have to pay a lot of money.
00:19:15.000But if you kill a guy who's supporting his family, they'll take everything you got.
00:19:20.000So that life in the eyes of the law is worth more.
00:19:25.000How strange is it that we put a monetary value on actual life itself?
00:19:50.000This guy's driving down the road, like somewhere, probably near where they kicked you out of that club that one night and made you drive home, even though you're not supposed to drive home at night because of Moose.
00:20:27.000All these other people had slowed down because these moose were out and these people had seen the moose and they were kind of checking it out.
00:20:34.000But look, this guy fucking hits it full on and sends everything flying.
00:21:39.000But if you're too close to a mama moose, and she's got her babies near her, she'll just fuck you up.
00:21:45.000There was this kid that got killed, I want to say it was on a campus somewhere in Alaska, and apparently someone had been throwing snowballs at the moose, and they had agitated the moose.
00:23:11.000That was a weird one because they have a different way of looking at you as opposed to like a regular bear does like a brown bear is a more aggressive bear in terms of like it's more of a hunter whereas black bears they're kind of hunters but they're more I think they tend to eat more berries and things along those lines but those big ass brown bears they have to be like really aggressive because they're so big like you gotta feed a thousand pound body or whatever the fuck they wear Do they eat meat?
00:24:46.000I did it at this ranch, and they have a bunch of guys that work at the ranch that just drag it into a pickup truck, and then you take it to this cold storage area, and in the cold storage area, they break it down.
00:27:00.000It's like there's a certain time per pound of bird, like however big the bird is, but it's so good, dude, because you cook it in peanut oil, and it's just juicy and delicious and crispy on the outside.
00:27:12.000It's my all-time favorite way to get a turkey.
00:28:27.000This genetic selection where they're just like super fucking plump and like ridiculously big breasts and then they get those to do that in a very short period of time and then they kill them.
00:28:39.000And they can't walk because their chests are so big they fall over forwards.
00:29:49.000It's like you're taking these chickens and you're literally compartmentalizing them into a specific size, like a cell.
00:29:56.000And the mitochondria of the cell is this chicken.
00:29:59.000And you've got hundreds and hundreds of them stacked into this place.
00:30:03.000They're like these living organisms that you've got locked into these clearly defined spaces, and you're extracting energy from those chickens.
00:30:54.000These things that he does with these chickens, where he puts them in these giant chicken houses that are on wheels, and he'll roll them into an area, and then you just let them out.
00:32:32.000Tyson Foods is one of the leading supporters of American agriculture, paying more than $15 billion annually to independent farmers who supply us with cattle, hogs and chickens.
00:32:42.000We depend on more than 11,000 independent farmers across the country.
00:32:45.000This includes more than 4,000 poultry farmers who contact us to raise chickens.
00:33:12.000It was about this guy who was like this super badass sushi chef in Japan, like the best sushi chef in Tokyo right now, I guess they were saying.
00:33:20.000And it's really interesting, like watching this guy acquire the fish and how he talks about how he ages the fish.
00:33:32.000Yeah, and then they age them a lot of times at the fish market before he takes it, or he takes it back and he'll age it another five days more.
00:35:03.000I mean, he hasn't even taken office yet, and he's already alienated China.
00:35:07.000He thinks he's friends—the best part is he thinks he's friends with Russia.
00:35:11.000That's like hanging out with a school bully and thinking you're safe until one day you say something the bully doesn't like, and he fucking cracks you in the face, and you realize he's just a broken child.
00:35:23.000You know way more about this than I do, because I've spent the majority of my adult life ignoring almost everything about how the system works.
00:35:47.000Well, what you've already seen is by taking a phone call from Taiwan, a simple act that he didn't think twice about, that opened up the floodgates to China saying that we are recognizing Taiwan as an independent state, which has been...
00:36:02.000There's been a one-China policy going back to Nixon, which basically ensured that it clamped down on the Cold War.
00:36:10.000And it said, we're not going to keep building up against each other.
00:36:14.000And part of that is, we're going to live by certain doctrines, like the one-China policy.
00:36:20.000And when he takes a call from Taiwan, something as simple as that, all of a sudden, China's talking about a nuclear buildup.
00:36:30.000It's about him as a spokesman for our country and what messages he sends out.
00:36:35.000I mean, it's like Obama did it with Israel.
00:36:37.000I don't know why, but in his 11th hour, he has soured relations with Israel to the point where, you know, even though he's a lame duck president on his way out, it was a destructive thing he did.
00:36:56.000Well, the UN had a resolution that was saying that Israel has new developments in the West Bank, which are illegal according to previous UN resolutions.
00:37:08.000And so, I don't know what they're calling it, but it's illegal what they've done.
00:37:23.000Well, the disputed Palestinian territory.
00:37:25.000And they just decided to start building there?
00:37:27.000They've been building there for years.
00:37:30.000And they put up like 600 homes, but they're planning on putting up 5,000.
00:37:35.000In an area that, you know, there is no peace over there, but what's keeping it from being an all-out war is that area that is supposed to be kept neutral for now, and now they're building on it.
00:39:31.000And you're talking about people that are right next to each other with opposing ideologies and various There's no reasons for being righteous.
00:39:43.000Well, and Iran, Iran, looking at Israel as...
00:41:01.000This is just one I... Does it say, like, I just want to know, like, I'm too stupid to know what that is, so why don't you, like, ask Google compared to a state.
00:41:14.000Because I think there's a simple comparison, I just don't remember what it is.
00:41:17.000It's like Connecticut or something like that.
00:48:05.000Salt, it's amazing that we give it away for free because if you really think of what it was worth like five, six hundred years ago, salt was incredibly valuable, right?
00:48:36.000I don't know how long you could have a piece of meat and just cover it with salt and leave it laying around at room temperature, but I think it's a lot more than it would if you didn't have the salt.
00:48:46.000And I think it's one of the reasons why it was one of the most valuable things in the world at one point in time, which is crazy now when you think about it.
00:48:56.000Yeah, and everything you ate must have been salty as shit.
00:49:00.000People must have just gotten used to the taste of salt.
00:49:03.000Do you remember when everybody was thinking that salt causes high blood pressure?
00:49:17.000And then there was this study that came out recently.
00:49:21.000A paper that came out recently that was pointing to the sugar industry accepting bribes or giving bribes to scientists in the 1950s and 60s.
00:50:00.000Well, it would taste better that way, probably.
00:50:03.000Okay, so it says protection of foods from microbial spoilage using salt, usually sodium chloride or sugar, usually sucrose, has ancient roots and is often referred to as salting, salt curing, corning or sugar curing.
00:50:18.000Pieces of rock salt used for curing are sometimes called corns, hence the name corned beef.
00:50:24.000Ah, I always wondered why they called it corned beef.
00:50:38.000Several ways in which salt and sugar inhibit microbial growth.
00:50:42.000Most notable is simple osmosis or dehydration.
00:50:46.000Salt or sugar, whether in solid or aqueous form, attempts to reach equilibrium with the salt or sugar content of the food product with...
00:50:57.000This has the effect of drawing available water from within the food to the outside and inserting salt or sugar molecules into the food interior.
00:51:06.000The result is a reduction of the so-called water activity measure of unbound free water molecules in the food that is necessary for microbial survival and growth.
00:51:21.000I never thought about how, because I always think about when I put salt on my food, it seems like, especially with sea salt, where they're so big, the particles, that you don't just get like, that it doesn't spread.
00:51:51.000I mean, think about how difficult it must have been to get fresh food to a city in 1700. Throwing salt on everything and packing things in salt and taking them down the road on the back of wagons being pulled by horses.
00:52:09.000With out-of-control mosquitoes and flies on everything.
00:54:03.000Well, didn't AIDS come from a monkey, or is that a myth?
00:54:07.000That, man, I wish I could remember exactly how to answer this because I listened to a radio lab podcast called Patient Zero, I think it was, that was all about this.
00:54:17.000They were trying to figure out who was the first person that contracted the HIV virus.
00:54:21.000And it did have something to do with someone who was tending to meet that he had killed of a chimpanzee and maybe perhaps had an open cut.
00:56:33.000And all I could think of was like, a big one of these?
00:56:37.000A real full-grown one of these things?
00:56:39.000And they get aggressive around people.
00:56:41.000When we were down in, we were in South Africa in Cape Town, and we were taking a walk down to the Cape of Good, Cape of whatever, at the tip, the very tip of South Africa.
00:59:32.000A police officer who responded to the scene of the attack shot and killed Travis when he clawed open the cop's cruiser door and flashed his bloody teeth.
00:59:58.000Imagine if that was you and you didn't have a gun and you weren't a cop, you just pulled up and you saw some chimp tearing apart a lady and you're like, what the fuck?
01:00:06.000And the chimp just goes running towards you and decides he's going to open up your fucking door now and he's flashing his bloody teeth after he just ate some lady's face.
01:04:26.000It rumored that it only happened once, but apparently he got arrested and sent away to work in a veterinary station in Kazakhstan and died two years later.
01:04:44.000But rumor that he did actually inject a woman with sperm.
01:04:48.000This story, the story of this is like the beginning of like some crazy superhero X-Men type reveal of some new, instead of Wolverine, some man-chimp, some hybrid.
01:05:01.000Like Wolverine looked like he was kind of a man-chimp hybrid.
01:05:04.000The real Wolverine, like from the comic books, he was...
01:05:54.000The research also suggests that modern humans did not cause Neanderthals to rapidly go extinct, as some researchers have previously suggested.
01:09:11.000So, I'm so stupid to have these conversations.
01:09:14.000I'm so stupid because I read an entire book about sapiens and this whole transformation, and I just, the problem is I read when I go to sleep, and I don't, I'm so fucking tired, it all goes through me.
01:09:25.000The next night I can't even find out, I can't even find where I left off on the book.
01:09:29.000Isn't reading at night like the best way to fucking fall asleep?
01:09:32.000It makes you go to sleep so much easier.
01:09:34.000Like something about reading, I'm just like, conk.
01:09:37.000Dude, my wife opens up her book at night, every night, and she does not get to the second page, and she's sitting upright, and I can hear her breathing change, and she's asleep.
01:15:26.000Because by the time they move out, it's like you're not going to be there to make these decisions for them.
01:15:36.000Yeah, the task of raising a human is probably one of the most important things, one of the most impossible to correct once you've fucked it up, and it's put in the hands of everybody who is most likely raised incorrectly themselves.
01:15:54.000Well, the hope is there's more therapy than there was today.
01:16:21.000And now, parents, it's a partnership, the mother and the father.
01:16:24.000Because the worst thing, and I know a couple that's like this, where they're never on the same page, and their kids are all fucked up, and neither one of them is a bad parent.
01:16:33.000They're just doing it in opposite ways.
01:16:37.000He's very, like, you know, checked out in some ways, but, like, in the way...
01:16:44.000The healthy way I describe hands-off...
01:16:47.000He's still caring and controlling and supporting.
01:16:50.000His is a little bit more like, I can't handle this.
01:16:54.000Hers is, she's super A-type personality, and she's trying to drive the kids to be their best potential, which is good.
01:17:02.000A little bit of that is good, and a little bit of what he's doing is good, but they're both polar opposites and not really handling their strategies well either.
01:17:12.000But I really think that the main thing is that your kids can't feel like they're getting two different messages at the same time from mommy and daddy.
01:17:19.000It can't feel like they're being smothered either, right?
01:17:22.000One of the things about kids that you find out real early is if you tell them not to do something, that's what they want to do.
01:17:29.000They don't want you telling them what to do because they're little people.
01:17:32.000And even though they might be five or six, they're still little people.
01:20:10.000A lot of us, I think, have this idea about people who meditate as like, oh, you know, he's just trying to find some spiritual peace and this is like some masturbatory weirdness and you stand in front of some fucking incense and pretend you're from a different culture.
01:20:24.000But I think that just being alone with your thoughts...
01:20:46.000You know, Eckhart Tolle talks about, you know, with meditation, it's just really, it's reminding you to not think about the past or the future for a little while.
01:20:54.000It's about just thinking about the breathing that's happening right now or the mantra that's happening right now.
01:21:00.000And when you come out of it, you're not going to stay in that state all day, but you will have brought yourself back to that point, if only for 20 minutes.
01:21:08.000And that will sort of, that will guide you for the rest of the day.
01:21:12.000Yeah, I think the momentum of most people's lives is so strong, mine included, I'm sure yours included, that oftentimes you just get caught up in how you're thinking or how you're behaving or what you're doing.
01:21:29.000It's just like, wow, it's like pushing you from behind.
01:21:32.000And if you can just stop as often as possible and do nothing for an hour and breathe, just do nothing but think and breathe, you come out of it with a more balanced perspective.
01:22:30.000Well, that's why you're supposed to set goals, because goals are you sitting down in a cold, calculating way and saying, where do I want to be in a year?
01:22:38.000What are the steps that I need to get to that?
01:22:40.000And then setting small goals to get you there, because day to day, you're reacting to people are codependent with their wives or their kids, and so they're reacting to that.
01:22:48.000You're wondering if your phone's going to ring.
01:22:50.000You're wondering what people are saying on social media.
01:22:52.000There's so many dynamics that have you spinning around and not in your own space, so that I love the beginning of the year.
01:23:01.000I love sitting down and setting up some new goals.
01:23:03.000I mean, you and I just talked a couple nights ago about that.
01:23:06.000Your goal is to sort of try to get off social media more, not answer your phone all day.
01:23:12.000Yeah, stay off my phone for many, many hours at a time.
01:23:33.000After a while, look at that chimpanzee attacking a car.
01:23:37.000Well, that video that I showed you today, that's how I found it.
01:23:40.000The fucking lady that hit that, or the guy that hit that moose.
01:23:43.000I don't know if it was a guy or a girl, whoever fucking hit that moose.
01:23:45.000But I'm inundated by that, and people keep sending me these fucking videos of these Russian crazy Like, acrobats doing flips on the top of buildings.
01:24:10.000And some of them get up on top of them with those hoverboards, those little wheelie boards, and they go like to the edge on the hoverboard and back.
01:25:38.000My friend lives on the fifth floor of an apartment building and there's a picture of me when I was about 14 hanging off his balcony by my knees.
01:27:16.000Yeah, but I've got two St. Patrick's Day shows, which you've done, I think the last three years you've done my St. Patrick's Day show at the Hollywood Improv.
01:27:26.000I have to support the one quarter Irish that I am.
01:28:19.000And the place, they don't know what to make of them at first.
01:28:22.000It takes them like a good two minutes for them to just pick their jaws up off the table, put the jaw back in their head, and then start to laugh.
01:28:31.000And then you just saw them convulsed, destroyed.
01:28:35.000And in the back, Sarah and all of them, they're going like, who is this guy?
01:29:30.000She can play in a room like the store where they didn't all come to see her, and she can fucking prove something to people that maybe don't know what a good comic she is.
01:29:39.000Yeah, well, I would agree with you that I think she's one of the best comics alive, for sure.
01:29:43.000She killed at the fucking comedy store last time I saw her, which was, I want to say it was quite a while ago.
01:29:49.000It might have been a year ago, as a matter of fact.
01:30:07.000I mean, there's guys like Paul F. Tompkins.
01:30:10.000That dude, I haven't seen him in a comedy club in 10 years, but he does his show at Largo, I don't know how often, and he'll go to San Francisco and fucking sell out cobs.
01:30:21.000The guy's got his circuit, he's got his crowd, I think he makes a very nice living.
01:30:26.000And I think he does the style of comedy he does, which is a little bit more storytelling.
01:30:31.000It's a little slower, a little more esoteric.
01:30:34.000It may not work in the other kinds of clubs.
01:30:36.000So yeah, maybe it fosters his ability to go deeper into what he's doing by playing select clubs.
01:30:42.000Yeah, I mean, I guess it's all in whether or not what you enjoy doing, whether it fits in with clubs.
01:34:06.000You might get stuck on the side of the road.
01:34:07.000If you see flashing, like, a light on the side of the road, like someone's hazard lights, they pulled over, like, a lot of times people help.
01:34:25.000But if you were driving down a snowy road in New Hampshire and you saw someone pulled over to the side of the road and you start thinking, what if that's a mom with her kids?
01:35:08.000There's no sense of, I don't need to help you if I hang out with you.
01:35:11.000It's because I want to hang out with you.
01:35:13.000There, you hang out with your neighbor because you're fucking surviving together.
01:35:17.000We were all hanging out in the back of the comedy store last night, and we were all stoned.
01:35:21.000And we were all laughing and giggling and joking around.
01:35:24.000And I was thinking, boy, what a great place this is to be at the Sunset Strip in Hollywood in 2016. And then all I could think of, because of the pot probably, was like, what if...
01:35:38.000An asteroid, just not even a big one, but a pretty big one, just slammed into downtown LA right now.
01:35:45.000Not enough to kill me, but enough for me to just feel the impact, see the thing flying through the sky, and hear the people scream and run for the fucking hills.
01:35:55.000And realize, I realized at that moment, because I was so high, I was like, how fragile is this existence that we think is so concrete?
01:36:04.000We think it's so locked in and permanent and secure.
01:36:07.000And all we take is one fucking rock that comes hurling from the sky, boom, into downtown L.A., Kill a half a million people.
01:36:17.000And then the rest of us would beat you shit in our pants in terror.
01:36:21.000One highway goes out in L.A. We're fucked.
01:36:24.000Because there's only two roads downtown.
01:37:44.000Maybe he will have a revelation while he's in office that this has achieved the highest achievement that any human being can ever attain, that he has won the race.
01:38:19.000My wife has this app where every day she can call or write a congressman or a cause or a place you can donate money so that you feel like every day...
01:38:45.000I've used it as an example on the show before, but you remember when the United States had that...
01:38:50.000The president had the press conference where Obama was saying that we're probably going to go to war with Syria, and America was like, fuck you.
01:38:57.000It was a unanimous, cross the board, right and left.
01:39:00.000So when he said they drew a line in the sand about if they used chemical weapons, we'd go to war?
01:39:04.000Yeah, there was something along those lines, but there was a fucking...
01:39:09.000Blatant rejection by the American people.
01:39:38.000I mean, it's hard for us to even imagine what it would be like to be living there.
01:39:43.000Living over here in fucking Los Angeles where everything's perfect.
01:39:47.000Imagine what it's like to be someone who just by a bad roll of the dice, you were born over there.
01:39:52.000About parts of Africa, you know, South Sudan and the Congo and places where people are giving their lives in the street because there were voter discrepancies.
01:40:03.000That, you know, ideologically are letting themselves be shot in public squares because they're demonstrating.
01:40:40.000We were trying to figure out, we're like, imagine if there was a way where you could infiltrate those people, but they wouldn't, you would have to, they would not, the only way to really know how they lived Yeah.
01:41:13.000Well, also you might kill them because very often anthropologists try to go in there and study and they give them a disease.
01:41:21.000There's been cases where they've wiped out entire tribes.
01:41:25.000Yeah, there's a guy named Dan Flores who wrote a paper about the bisons.
01:41:32.000And it's bison diplomacy, bison ecology, I think it's called.
01:41:36.000And one of the things he was talking about was the amount of Native Americans that were wiped out just because of diseases by settlers.
01:41:44.000And it was some insane number, like high 80%.
01:41:51.000I don't know where it was, but what percentage of Native Americans, Google this, what percentage of Native Americans were Killed by diseases from European settlers.
01:42:04.000Because I know the Spanish, when they came into Central America, they fucking, so many people died from diseases.
01:42:11.000Well, he was equating it to the boom in the buffalo herd sizes.
01:43:08.000The same thing that I said about that tribe that lived in the jungle, I would love if there was a way where you could somehow or another be amongst them without them knowing it.
01:43:18.000So you could really truly see how they behave and exist unaffected by a person like you or a person like me that obviously wasn't born there.
01:43:30.000There was this documentary about this guy from Greenwich Village.
01:44:23.000They all put on paint, and they went to the next village, and they killed, and then they ate flesh, and the guy just went, I'm fucking out of here.
01:44:35.000And so he came back to the village, and he wrote about it, and he lectured about it, and then he went back like, yeah, like 15 years later, he goes back.
01:45:58.000Or they capture you if you're trying to get away from them.
01:46:01.000But in their case, I mean, do you imagine if you and your people had lived in this one patch of land for 10,000 years, then all of a sudden these fucking demons carrying death in their breath.
01:46:15.000And their very touch, like just getting in contact with them makes all of your relatives wilt away.
01:46:45.000Well, I didn't know how bad it was until I read a priest's account of Columbus's men interacting with Native Americans, and it is horrific.
01:46:56.000This religious guy went with them on one of the voyages and wrote books about how they would hack off guys' arms, and they would tell them to bring them gold.
01:47:05.000They had to bring their weight in gold, and if they didn't do it, they would hack off one of their arms, and they'd do it in front of everybody else.
01:47:33.000So when we think of Christopher Columbus, we think of this noble Spanish gentleman who came over and landed in America and looked regal as he got off with fucking rosy cheeks and walked amongst the people and declared this American and all that bullshit and made friends with the Indians.
01:48:59.000So it confused the shit out of them when they would get accused of stealing.
01:49:03.000There was a whole different, in many of these encounters apparently, there was a whole different, not just a language barrier, but a culture barrier.
01:49:11.000Like understanding what these fucking crazy white assholes were doing.
01:49:15.000And the whole concept that you still see in a lot of Middle Eastern countries, which is the idea of giving.
01:49:22.000As a host, when you come to somebody's home, you give them your bed, and you give them food, and you would never ask them to leave as long as they want to stay.
01:49:44.000It's interesting, and isn't that also what we were talking about before, that a long time ago is a lot like living in a place that has unbelievably harsh winters.
01:49:55.000A long time ago, you were faced with danger all the time, and you had to make bonds.
01:50:15.000So there was this intense need to form these community bonds.
01:50:21.000Today, nobody even knows who their fucking neighbor is.
01:50:23.000Do you think they lived like that a thousand years ago?
01:50:25.000You fucking for sure knew who that guy was.
01:50:28.000You for sure knew who that guy was, and everybody would be on the lookout for some people that we didn't know that might be sneaking over the top of the hill.
01:51:13.000Just people like what we've become right now as the people that are living here in 2016, it's a weird process that's been going on for hundreds and hundreds of years, and we're just at the end of it.
01:51:27.000We're obviously not the end-to-end, but we're at the front of the line.
01:51:30.000As far as all the history of it all pushing behind us, it's hard for us to appreciate how weird it must have been to be our parents or to be our parents' parents.
01:52:09.000I just think about landing, even later, like the beginning of the 19th century, when people were, or the 20th century, when people were coming over from Europe, you landed in Manhattan.
01:52:23.000You got a burlap sack with some clothes on it and an address of a fucking second cousin out in Brooklyn.
01:52:29.000You don't know how to get to Brooklyn.
01:52:40.000People don't realize that today, because that stigma's kind of gone away.
01:52:43.000My grandfather used to talk about it all the time, because he came over from Italy and my grandmother came over from Italy on my mom's side.
01:52:49.000And they would talk about it all the time, how horrible it was.
01:53:45.000But you get blown away by what the Italians are capable of.
01:53:49.000You see the craftsmanship of marble work in this country that the Italians brought over, and the opera, and then you see Jersey Shore.
01:53:59.000It's such a fucking weird dichotomy of Italians can be so fucking dumb and materialistic, and yet they are the fucking high point of culture and civilization.
01:54:11.000Well, in some ways, but they were also fucking kids.
01:54:20.000They did that along with make incredible architecture, unbelievable art, incredible buildings filled with statues that are just beyond compare.
01:54:31.000This incredible artistic expression, but rampant kid fucking.
01:54:55.000Or my friend was, he went away to some fucking camp and the priest climbed into bed with him and was trying to grab his hand and shove it down his pants and he was literally fighting the guy off and running away from him.
01:56:25.000Like throughout human history, throughout Rome and the Middle East, and there's so many fucking instances of great men Wasn't Socrates a kid fucker?
01:56:39.000How many people quote Socrates and then have that caveat, but he also fucked kids?
01:59:23.000You would take a bag, like one of them Ziploc storage bags, put the chicken cutlet in the bag, and then heat up some water to about 99 degrees.
01:59:32.000And then you'd dunk the chicken cutlet in the water so that it heats up.
01:59:37.000It gets, you know, like a body skin temperature.
01:59:39.000And then you just cover that bitch with KY. Just lather it in there, and then you put an oven mitt on.
02:02:11.000But it was breaking down if what he did was actually illegal or not, and it has to be a dead animal, or this was a dead animal in this case.
02:02:19.000So if it's a live animal, it's sex with an animal.
02:02:46.000You can only kill them if you're going to eat them.
02:02:48.000You can't just shoot a cow in the head and leave it to rot.
02:02:50.000Even though that's the natural process is an animal falls down, crows start eating it, rats eat it, the grass devours it, it decays and goes into the ground.
02:04:10.000Sometimes they just have a nice pet dog and they love him, and they give him a kiss on the face, and they throw the ball for him, and he's a wonderful companion.
02:04:17.000But at least a few guys are out there right now while I'm talking.
02:04:22.000There's 300 million people in this country plus Mexicans.
02:04:38.000But what I'm saying is, out of 300 plus million people, there's at least one person right now who has his balls covered in whipped cream, his dog is sucking on his balls, and he's jerking off.
02:05:56.000The states which do not criminalize bestiology yet ban same-sex marriages are Kentucky, Montana, New Jersey, Nevada, Ohio, Texas, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wyoming.
02:08:12.000Meanwhile, the Democrats, I heard, I don't know, is this confirmed that the Democrats are putting on a concert that same night and they've got Springsteen, Lady Gaga, fucking Jay-Z and Beyonce, like literally like 15 of the biggest names in entertainment.
02:10:11.000Phrase cuckold and which is like a guy fucks your wife in front of you like some guys like like watching Oh, no cuckold goes back to Shakespeare.
02:10:23.000But how is it that they're maligning her for her husband cheating when Trump has had three wives But wait a minute and the first who's who's they the all right, but it's not a big generalization Well, they brought out all of Clinton's ex-mistresses at the Republican convention.
02:10:44.000Well, wasn't that all people that he allegedly sexually assaulted?
02:10:47.000That's a little stronger than just mistresses.
02:11:37.000What is weird is that without permission, and again, I'm not defending Trump on this one, but your first move, you can go hard or you can be Johnny Gentleman.
02:11:51.000And not too many guys are saying, may I kiss you?
02:11:54.000You usually just go in and try to kiss somebody, which is what he did.
02:13:49.000You can't expect someone's words when it's two guys talking shit to each other like that to be transferred literally onto like when you're reading it, you're reading it out.
02:14:02.000And you're not taking into account there are two guys sitting next to each other on a bus talking shit, being funny.
02:14:07.000And that one of them is a fucking renowned entertainer.
02:14:11.000And his whole thing is about him being this braggadocious winner.
02:14:19.000And he's playing it up to an audience of one.
02:14:21.000Not to an audience of 80 million or however many people found out about it or more or whatever the hell it was that read that.
02:14:27.000But can you see that as sort of an insight into his character in terms of seeing women from a power structure of him having the power and them not?
02:15:56.000Well, it's kind of animalistic because if you think about it, procreating is the most important thing, and you get to do that as a male when you are the most powerful.
02:16:38.000The interesting thing to me is now there's a guy who has been literally paying off politicians for the longest time, giving massive campaign contributions.
02:16:50.000What's he going to do when he gets in there?
02:16:51.000I mean he's even talked himself about how the electoral college is stupid and he's like, yeah, well we probably should go to the popular vote.
02:16:58.000He goes, that would be a different race, though.
02:17:02.000Like, saying that she won the electoral vote, or that she won the popular vote, but he won the electoral college vote, and she won the popular vote by many hundreds of thousands.
02:19:27.000The idea was great when we first started.
02:19:30.000The idea was great to have one person who was really exceptional and have that one person lead.
02:19:35.000But I think at this point in time, the collective strength of human beings has been demonstrated really clearly in this world.
02:19:42.000The collective strength is far greater when everyone contributes, when it's a collective group of minds thinking and communicating about things.
02:19:50.000And people go, oh, everybody's going to want their way.
02:19:53.000We have to realize what's the right way.
02:19:56.000There's too much debate back and forth about what's the left and what's the right.
02:20:01.000What's the correct way for the society to be even and smooth and your kids be able to walk to school in the morning without worrying about someone taking them and eating them?
02:20:11.000You know like there was this fucking guy Jordan Peterson that I had on recently was talking about these posters that they put up in Russia in the 1930s saying don't eat your children Dude.
02:20:25.000He was talking about Marxism and, you know, communism and where it can go awful and where a lot of these ridiculous posturing intellectuals that claim to be Marxists, they don't understand the consequences of Marxism.
02:20:37.000And so, you know, he talked about the Gulag Acapella and reading about all the different things that had happened to people that had become, you know, indoctrinated into these ideologies and then started carrying out these horrific crimes in the name of them and Fuck, it's terrifying.
02:20:52.000You find out all the people who died because of communism.
02:20:55.000Like, when you look at human history, it's just a bunch of people getting jacked.
02:20:59.000Well, wait, so you're saying that there shouldn't be a strong leader or there should?
02:21:02.000Because Marxism is without a strong leader then.
02:21:04.000Well, I don't think there should be one person.
02:21:07.000I think we should figure out who the top minds, as far as the people that want to contribute, who the top minds are and vet them out and have a whole goddamn panel of people.
02:21:20.000What superhero movies would they go to?
02:25:04.000You feel your intestines, you feel your anus, you make a judgment call, and you let it rip.
02:25:09.000What's interesting if you think about how tuned in you are to the sensations you get from your inner colon, because there's times you know, like, oh no, I'm about to shit my pants.
02:25:18.000There's a certain alarm that goes off, like when you're like, oh, no, no, we're clenching a little too hard here.
02:25:38.000Clamping down and it's the same exact feeling that you get is when you're trying to hold cum in you know that shit yeah like I'm free super bad at clamping everything in like that I always say One day I'm going to try Tantra.
02:25:53.000I'm going to learn how to completely...
02:25:54.000Like guys say that you can have an internal orgasm where your contraction is so long that you cum but no cum comes out and your body just reabsorbs it and it makes you like super scion power.
02:26:56.000Like if you said to a lot of guys, like if you had to choose between being blind or having your dick break, where your dick can never get it up again.
02:28:51.000People were expecting a hip-hop album from him because that's what he does usually, but it's a lot of, like, funkadelic, basically what you're describing.
02:30:21.000If we were all sitting around passing the joint, he would hit it the same amount as everybody else.
02:30:25.000We'd all be looking at each other like, whoa.
02:30:27.000There's been many a podcast we've done, including the beginning of this one, where as it starts out, you're like, whoa, I don't even know if I should be talking right now.
02:30:34.000I'm barely holding on to the words as they're coming out of my mouth and forming them in the right way.
02:30:40.000It's like they're little fucking clay kids that are running out of my mouth and I gotta like form them.
02:35:49.000That's the other weird thing about this world.
02:35:51.000The MMA world is changing so fast, the level of athlete is moving in such a fast direction.
02:35:57.000These guys keep getting better and better and better and better and better.
02:36:00.000And they're all getting better, so it's hard to tell.
02:36:02.000But when you compare a top-level athlete of today versus a top-level athlete of 20 years ago, that's when you see these stark, gigantic differences.
02:36:13.000When the UFC started in 1993 in comparison to 2016, just stark, crazy differences.
02:36:19.000But you're not going to see guys stay at the top as long, you think?
02:36:23.000Well, some guys can, or some girls can, you know, depending on how good they are.
02:36:26.000Some people just have massive advantages that are very difficult to overcome, like Anderson Silva when he was in his prime.
02:36:32.000Anderson Silva had a massive advantage in timing and speed and creativity and striking, whereas he could defend himself on the ground, he was difficult to take down, and when he got him down, he's pretty good defensively with his guard.
02:36:43.000But standing up, he's a goddamn genius.
02:37:01.000So when a guy like that is at the top, he's so truly exceptional at one particular aspect of the game, a lot of times they can go on a good run.
02:38:19.000John Jones, another one, perfect example.
02:38:21.000John Jones is a ridiculously talented athlete.
02:38:23.000So like when you have these like really, really talented guys, like extreme outliers, they tend to be able to go on rolls.
02:38:29.000Also because when you fight them, it's terrifying.
02:38:32.000Because you know you're stepping in there with the alpha.
02:38:34.000You're stepping in there with Anderson Silva in his prime and he bows to you and you're like, oh my god, what the fuck have I gotten myself into?
02:38:43.000You can pump yourself up for it and get yourself thinking, like, I'm the fucking man now.
02:38:47.000But, like, when you're actually across the street from the man, and you're looking at each other eye to eye, and you realize, like, that's Anderson motherfucking Silva.
02:38:55.000I'm about to step into the ring, step into the octagon, rather, with the best ever.
02:39:00.000You're doing Hanson on the edge of a tall building.
02:43:33.000You know, I think the talent level is probably a little bit better in the UFC. But it's arguable that it wasn't because, you know, he was fighting...
02:43:41.000Krokop in his prime and Noguera in his prime and Fedor fought some of the all-time greats at their best and beat him.
02:43:48.000So it's arguable that he fought a tougher range of opponents.
02:43:52.000So maybe it's arguable that Fedor's accomplishments are more impressive because the opposition he fought was bigger, more dangerous.
02:43:59.000He fought Krokop when Krokop was just an assassin, just smashing people, knocking everybody dead.
02:44:04.000And he walked him down and out-kickboxed him.
02:44:23.000I try really hard to be as objective as possible about what I'm saying.
02:44:29.000And sometimes people get upset that I'm friends with because I'm talking about things that they're doing wrong or things that are going wrong for them.
02:44:37.000And so they'll think that I'm rooting against them.
02:44:59.000I'm mocking someone for no reason or...
02:45:04.000Talking in a negative way about their technique for no reason.
02:45:07.000It's only because it's not happening, and I want everybody to know what's going wrong.
02:45:10.000You're pointing out the momentum of the fight.
02:45:11.000Also, I want to know what's going on that's wrong.
02:45:15.000Because your job as a commentator is not just to say what's happening and talk about what's happening, but in MMA, it's also to explain things.
02:45:25.000I have to explain certain things that are critical in a fight.
02:45:30.000Like, say if someone gets kicked in the leg really hard a few times, you see him start to limp on it.
02:45:34.000I have to point out that I see him limping.
02:45:36.000Now, this is going to be a huge issue if he tries to shoot in or if he wants to move away.
02:47:20.000Like, someone will think, like, if they fight that person, and they hate that person, and you like that person, but you like them, like, you're a traitor or something.
02:47:27.000Or, like, how can you talk to that person?
02:48:33.000A lot of guys, they started out friends, and then because they had to fight each other, like Jon Jones and Rashad Evans, that was a big story.
02:48:39.000Like, Rashad Evans was like Jon Jones' bigger, older brother.
02:49:47.000The lineup the other night was like D'Elia and you and him and Jesselnik and Spade.
02:49:54.000And it's like on any given night, you don't want to be called the legend because that just immediately puts you on a shelf instead of in the fight.
02:50:01.000And so anyway, he said that to me and the reason I want to say it is...
02:50:06.000I can see somebody taking that out of context and going like, oh, you hate being called a legend.
02:50:11.000But it's like, I've been called that by young comics.
02:50:14.000And it's like, don't call me a fucking legend because, first of all, I didn't earn it.
02:50:19.000And second of all, I'm still playing the game.
02:50:36.000There's probably things that they can only talk to each other about that they could never talk to straight people about because they just haven't been there.
02:50:43.000So how do you not get close to other fighters that you might have to fight one day?
02:50:46.000Especially when there's a lot of guys in the same weight in the same camp, which is very beneficial.
02:50:51.000Because if you get a bunch of really good guys, like Team Alpha Male is a perfect example of that.
02:50:55.000There's all these guys that are around the 135 to 155 pound weight class.
02:51:01.000Bunch of really elite guys, and 125 even.
02:51:03.000But a lot of elite guys in the lower weight classes.
02:51:05.000And they all train together, but they never fight each other.
02:51:08.000Then they had a big falling out because TJ Dillashaw won the title, and then he left Team Alpha Male and went to Denver, and now they don't like each other.
02:51:15.000There's so much camaraderie and teams, and there's this weird sort of tribal bond that goes with teams.
02:51:23.000You know, the teams that compete against other teams.
02:51:59.000It's like there's a few big camps all throughout the world, but when it comes to elite level MMA fighters, who's got the biggest amount of them, it's between Jackson's in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and Miami, American Top Team.
02:52:13.000They just have so many fucking elite fighters.
02:52:16.000Must be tough for her to train with people if she's that good.
02:53:08.000You don't need to kick a person full blast.
02:53:10.000And so these big teams, the more talent you get in one weight class, the more you get a bunch of sharks circling the same seal or whatever the fuck you would...
02:53:41.000Well, also, I mean, I'm sure you know a lot more about this than I do, but the people that will be drawn to a sport like this might be contentious people.
02:53:50.000They might be people that have pretty good-sized egos and are maybe confrontational, and so those people aren't going to necessarily always interact that well with others.
02:54:01.000It's one of the more fascinating things about MMA. You'd be amazed at how many college-educated, very reasonable, rational people just view it as the ultimate extreme challenge.
02:54:10.000Whether it be riding a fucking snowboard off the top of a mountain, you get dropped off in a helicopter and you go down the side of a cliff...
02:54:19.000Those kind of extreme athlete people that might have gotten into BMX riding or might have gotten into a lot of things that we don't think of as being violent and aggressive, but they're ultra risk-taking sports.
02:54:31.000And the reward that comes from doing a flip when you're BMX jumping and you flip through the air and land on your feet, that's a I'm cheating death thing.
02:54:41.000And those same people, I think, a lot of elite ones, they're getting interested in possibly competing in MMA and taking that risk and challenging themselves in that way.
02:54:51.000So you're seeing a lot of very smart people, man.
02:54:56.000At the highest level, you have to be smart.
02:54:59.000If you talk to a guy like Jon Jones, he might make some poor decisions with his life because he parties a lot and he's kind of crazy, but he's very smart.
02:55:05.000When you talk to him and you look in his eyes, whether or not he has access to the same vocabulary as Christopher Hitchens did, no, maybe not, but he's a fucking genius in fighting.
02:55:29.000And if his focus and his interests were in intellectual pursuits, if that was really what stimulated him and made him want to follow through on something like that, I'm sure he'd be really good in that too.
02:55:40.000I would say it's really easy for people to sort of discredit someone and someone's intellectual capacity just because they're a fighter.
02:55:47.000I was just talking about in terms of alpha status, that it is hard to put a bunch of alpha people near each other without a little bit of, you know, banging elbows.
02:55:56.000Yes, but my point is that less than you would think it would be.
02:56:00.000Much more camaraderie and much more social, like very reasonable interaction, gentleman interaction than you would imagine.
02:56:50.000I don't know how much he gets per pay-per-view, but look at this.
02:56:54.000The entire roster drew 3.3 to 3.2 million in 2014. Conor McGregor drew double that on his own in 12 months.
02:57:06.000While GSP holds the record for the most pay-per-view buys in total, because he had a lot of pay-per-views more than Conor, Conor holds basically every other pay-per-view record.
02:57:15.000McGregor has drawn an insane 6.85 million buys in just 15 months.
02:57:38.000Like, he was saying recently that he wouldn't fight unless it's, well, actually, Nate Diaz was saying that he wouldn't fight, rather, who was his opponent in the last, not his last fight, which was Eddie Alvarez,
02:59:12.000That's how it is in, like, if you look at, like, the purses for, like, a lot of boxing matches, the way they have it described is, like, the big guys, like Floyd Mayweather, get a lion's share of the purse, and then everybody else gets less, including the promoters.
02:59:24.000And then you've got ticket sales, which is probably just a couple million.
02:59:27.000The ticket sales are probably pretty substantial, depending on where it is.
03:00:08.000The UFC has some sponsors in the octagon.
03:00:11.000I mean, they have some movie sponsors and stuff, but as for the fighters, there's really no sponsors that they carry into the octagon with them.
03:01:11.000Right, so if it's only 60 million bucks and then 15 million bucks from obviously I don't know and there's got to be international shit too because they sell it internationally all over the world I mean the UFC is everywhere so a big fight like Nate Diaz and Conor McGregor doesn't just sell in the United States it sells everywhere I don't know if that's all included I don't know how they work that shit out but my point is when someone says he wants 20 million dollars that might make sense Or that might not make sense.
03:01:37.000Like, I don't know what the numbers are.
03:03:13.000Like find out there's a chart, like a graph that they can show you that somebody put together that shows you the NBA, the NFL, Major League Baseball, and MMA is like below hockey.
03:03:26.000And you know that porn used to beat all of them put together, NBA, NFL, all of it, and...
03:04:47.000They're getting a regular massage from a woman, and it's a good massage.
03:04:51.000You can tell that these are like practice masseuses.
03:04:53.000And then all of a sudden, they're on their stomach, and they get up in that ass crack a little bit, and they get down in the valley, and they've got a camera on the woman's face, and above, and below, and usually somewhere else.
03:05:06.000And they keep it on the face so you can see the eyes open and kind of look around.
03:05:10.000And I'm telling you, fucking Mia Farrow.