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00:03:17.000Well, the thing, alright, somebody emailed me this morning and they're like, you know, because I'd said, I tweeted, like, hey, this guy's actually making sense.
00:03:24.000And they were like, dude, he's like a, he denies the Sandy Hook massacre.
00:05:23.000And so, I mean, you and I and Duncan talked about this a bunch when we were doing the shrimp parade thing, you know, like, because I see it as the end of humanity and that is a negative thing because I kind of like, I like the way we lived for 200,000 years embedded in the environment like other animals and pretty fucking happy and living in the moment and all that,
00:06:26.000And if it breaks off, Foxville, just a gigantic floating iceberg, like the size of a state that might just, you know, head to Hawaii and fucking crash into it.
00:08:38.000So maybe he's right, or maybe people are right, that we will come up with technology that's going to be able to figure out a way to solve these problems.
00:08:53.000Or, you know, radioactive diamond batteries making good use of nuclear waste.
00:08:59.000So they're going to have these diamond batteries that last for thousands of years.
00:09:04.000Which is really incredible because what Shane Smith was saying is essentially we have enough nuclear waste to power the earth for thousands of years.
00:10:39.000But, you know, when your advancing stage requires the destruction of your entire environment and all the other species as well, that's kind of fucked.
00:12:27.000And it's much more likely, considering the fact they've found these essentially like graveyards filled with woolly mammoths that died instantaneously.
00:13:47.000I mean, Darwin was a long fucking time ago.
00:13:52.000What we're looking at is this weird, accelerated existence, and it's happening right in front of it, and we've sort of acknowledged it, but we're not recognizing it.
00:14:11.000You know, this whole, like we assume the generational misunderstandings are sort of common human experience, but if you're a hunter-gatherer, your parents and grandparents lived in the same world you live in.
00:15:46.000And this one warrior runs into the clearing and fires an arrow at the airplane.
00:15:51.000And they're laughing like this fucking guy thinks he's going to shoot down an airplane with an arrow, you know.
00:15:55.000And they go back to the village and one of the pilots, it's Tom Waits and...
00:15:59.000I forget the other actor, but he plays a Navajo, and they're like Vietnam vets bombing around South America with their plane, right?
00:16:06.000And they're back in the village, and they get shit-faced, and then the Tom Waits character goes to bed, and the other guy's still hanging out in this little bar, and somebody slips him some ayahuasca.
00:16:24.000Flies off in the airplane in the middle of the night, flies out to this spot in the jungle where they're supposed to bomb them that day.
00:16:32.000Instead, he puts on a parachute, ditches the plane, jumps out, lands in the jungle, takes off all his clothes and his pistol, buries it in the jungle, and then walks naked into the village.
00:17:16.000So this guy literally goes back in time, right?
00:17:19.000Because he's a Navajo, and when he saw that guy shoot the arrow, he sort of had this vision of how his people had lost their dignity and their culture had been destroyed, and if only they had known what they were facing, and these people in the jungle had no idea what's coming for them,
00:19:58.000There's an amazing video that Neil deGrasse Tyson posted on his Instagram page the other day, and it's a guy using a camera, and he has some incredible lens on it.
00:21:42.000There was actually an article recently about Neanderthals, and they're trying to figure out when.
00:21:47.000There's still a debate as to whether or not they actually knew how to make fire.
00:21:52.000Or whether they knew how to keep it lit once they found it.
00:21:55.000You know, that they would find it and it would be like the sacred fire and they would keep it lit, but they weren't quite smart enough to actually make it.
00:22:01.000But now they're thinking that might not be the case.
00:22:12.000Whenever I hear someone say, people definitely did this, they definitely did that, when they're looking back at evidence as far as who could handle fire, who was the first people and when did they figure it out, how do they put all that shit together?
00:22:27.000Well, I mean, it depends on the specific case, right?
00:22:31.000In the case of fire, what they're looking at is...
00:22:35.000And also, because there's such a scarcity of evidence, things change really quickly, right?
00:22:41.000Like, for a long time they thought people crossed over the first Americans or about 10,000 years ago, and now they're saying, oh, at least 14, and now they're finding places in Chile that appear to be 40,000, and now they're thinking they came over in boats, and there were several different...
00:23:21.000And then you'd look at pieces of bone or something that they were cooking.
00:23:25.000And if you get the same area, then you can figure, okay, this wasn't a fire 10,000 years after somebody ate a rat here or something, right?
00:23:33.000They weren't cooking it, especially if the bones show charring as well, then they're cooking the food.
00:23:38.000But that's just in the last 15 or 20 years, the estimate of human use of fire has gone from like...
00:25:40.000I mean, considering you're always moving around, you're always enjoying different parts of the world, you're always coming back with these crazy stories and interesting perspectives.
00:25:48.000You've gathered up, but you don't seem stressed.
00:25:51.000And so many people that I know that are in your intellectual realm are fucking freaking out all the time.
00:26:47.000So last night I did, when I'm drinking beer, I'm like reading letters from people and yeah, going off on whatever the fuck I'm going off on.
00:26:54.000And it occurred to me later, I'm not dealing with the kind of numbers you're dealing with, but I've got a stadium of fucking people listening to me.
00:28:39.000The smart thing to do is just put it down, and this form of conversation, I would encourage people to have podcasts, to have their own podcasts, not even if they want to release it, they don't even have to release it, but by doing it, by just the act of doing it,
00:28:54.000you're having these conversations, these extended conversations with people, and I think it exercises your thought process in a way and the engagement process.
00:29:50.000I really like being in a room with somebody.
00:29:53.000Also, the kind of people that I have on my podcast are...
00:29:56.000Like you, they're people you want to know.
00:29:58.000They're interesting fucking people, you know?
00:30:00.000So I want to, like, hang out and meet their friends and meet the husband or the wife and the kids and, you know, sit in the driveway in my van for a few days and get to know the crowd.
00:30:10.000And I was thinking I'd love to meet, what's his name down in Bisbee, your buddy?
00:30:29.000So I was at his house, and we were talking about how comics think differently, because I was like, I love hanging with you guys, because nobody gets offended about anything.
00:30:37.000You can just say whatever the fuck comes out of your head, out of your mind.
00:30:41.000And he was like, we were talking about podcasts, and I said something about Stan Hope, and he's like, dude, you've got to listen to the Cliffhanger episodes.
00:31:41.000So at the end of this hour and a half, two hour conversation where they're talking about this relationship, it turns out she's going to have open heart surgery.
00:32:52.000I really think there might be something to that.
00:32:54.000Like, we might enforce it, and there might be, like, this urge and instinct to enforce extreme grief, because we feel like people who don't feel that are either not on my team, really didn't care about the person that I cared about, or might be a psycho.
00:33:40.000Because they didn't mourn hard enough and they were just the worst fake acting like all throughout the streets and they're filming it for their propaganda films.
00:33:48.000But it's like, see if you can pull some of it up.
00:33:56.000And one of the things that terrifies me the most about it is that it is in our face every day, direct evidence that things could go terribly wrong at any point in time with human beings.
00:34:07.000And we got so fucking lucky that we're born, wherever you are that you can listen to this and not have to worry about being locked up for possessing it, whether it's in England or Norway or Canada or wherever you're listening to this.
00:40:11.000I don't know where it is geographically.
00:40:14.000I flew in for this TV show, Meat Eater, with my friend Steven Rinella and my friend Brian Callan and Giannis Putelis, and we went to this island.
00:40:29.000But one of the most amazing things about it was that I was wet and uncomfortable in this weird sort of environment where you never really get dry because it's constantly raining.
00:41:09.000And I think that, especially for California, the weather here is so goddamn good that we have a few days where it rains and people literally start to complain.
00:41:19.000And I'm like, do you know how crazy it is that you're complaining that it rains maybe 10 days a year out of 365?
00:41:27.000And the fucking light is so beautiful after the rain.
00:41:49.000We live a fairytale life, you know, for anyone else anywhere in the world.
00:41:53.000And I think just coming here from the rain-soaked island, like as I was driving around, I would realize like, oh, at least for me, I have to go through some intense struggle to appreciate normal existence.
00:42:10.000There is no yang without yin, for me, for sure.
00:42:13.000And there's no comfort without discomfort.
00:42:16.000So for me to be happy and calm and sit here and talk to you, I gotta beat the fucking shit out of a heavy bag for an hour.
00:43:49.000I mean, Jamie and I were talking about this earlier, how, like, L.A. I've been here a couple months now, so I'm sort of getting my head back into it.
00:44:29.000I was hiking up in the hills in Topanga a couple weeks ago, and I'm sitting there on this trail, taking in the view, and I hear these two guys coming up the trail, and they can't see me because it's a curve.
00:44:42.000And they're talking and the one guy says, so are you feeling anything yet?
00:44:50.000And the other guy's like, well, my legs feel a little funny, but you know.
00:44:53.000So either he took Viagra and they're going to go to the woods to fuck.
00:44:58.000See, that didn't even occur to me, Joe.
00:45:06.000Yeah, it was a bit that I used to do about edibles, where it was like the worst thing you could ever hear someone say after they take an edible is, I don't feel shit.
00:45:44.000So he's like, could you just come in and talk to this guy and see what you think?
00:45:48.000So I meet with the guy, and I'm like, so what's your story, man?
00:45:50.000He's like, well, look, I was in Amsterdam.
00:45:53.000I ate a brownie, and I wasn't feeling anything, and so then I took these mushrooms, and next thing I know, I woke up, I was in a jail cell, naked, and I started walking down this,
00:46:08.000apparently, they told me I was screaming and singing, and I was like, so, but are you alright, man?
00:46:13.000He's like, yeah, I'm fine, but everyone thinks I'm crazy, because of this thing, and it's just like, I keep telling them it's no big deal.
00:46:20.000It's like the guy from the Tom Barringer movie.
00:48:27.000Anyway, so I can't tell the whole story, but I decided to take a heroic dose because it was like, I'm not going to do a lot more acid in my life.
00:49:22.000Well, in any case, LSD was marketed to doctors and to psychiatrists and psychologists who would take it in order to experience psychosis so they could better treat their patients.
00:49:57.000And what an interesting time where it was like, hey, we all need to experience nine hours of insanity so that we'll be better psychiatrists.
00:50:08.000It's a very cool way of looking at it, right?
00:50:10.000Yeah, it's a lifeguard who jumps into the water, not a lifeguard who stands on the beach and throws you a pill, you know?
00:50:15.000Yeah, if you talk to a psychiatrist and the psychiatrist doesn't have any psychedelic experiences, You can understand it, because, you know, especially if you're an academic, you want to be respected.
00:50:26.000Psychedelic experiences, for the most part, are illegal.
00:50:29.000And, you know, people get weird about it.
00:50:31.000And I can understand wanting to keep it under wraps.
00:50:33.000But if you're not really interested in it at all, how much are you studying the mind?
00:51:43.000There's a clip of him doing it, and then he talked about what happened later, I think it was with you, maybe on one of Duncan's podcasts, but here's the clip of him doing it.
00:53:01.000But what happened, I think is they just probably talking too much and he probably snapped out of it and he was in the middle of this haze of reality and illusion.
00:53:10.000I think doing something like that, like you got to be around people who are going to be quiet.
00:53:13.000You know, when you do it, you know, they're quiet.
00:53:16.000When they do it, you're quiet and you'll just sit there and Yeah.
00:53:20.000After I saw you, I saw you about a year ago, I think.
00:54:09.000The first few minutes, or who knows how many minutes or time, whatever, but the first period Yeah, there was that sort of ego dissolution where it's not me having this experience, it's just fucking experience.
00:54:25.000It's just what it is, just colors and shapes and wow, holy fuck.
00:54:30.000But then in my case, and this just reminded me of it watching Ari there, in my case what happened was I got overwhelmed by sadness.
00:54:41.000Because some people I'm close to are going through really heavy shit in the last couple of years and You know, you sort of, you feel compassion and you check in with them and you, compassion literally means to feel together, right?
00:54:55.000And so you feel it with them, but on another level it's like, I'm not the one who's got MS, you know?
00:55:01.000I'm not the one who's, you know, got chronic pain and, you know, suffering all this shit.
00:55:05.000So there's a separation, but what I experienced with that was the absence of separation.
00:55:09.000And I was just immersed in the sadness of people I love and seeing them suffering and not being able to help them.
00:55:25.000And the room was quiet and it was candlelight and all this.
00:55:27.000And the person who was sort of overseeing it was really nice and, you know, sort of, okay, you're starting to feel better now and here's a tissue and whatever.
00:55:38.000And my first thought, my first conscious thought was, remember when I write the Yelp review of this experience to mention that the music should be different.
00:56:38.000When he and I did it and he did it and I've never seen anybody get hit by it harder like he Literally he was like slumped on my couch and he was making he was groaning like It was it was disturbing it was it was so it was so extreme that I was wondering like I knew that this is like something that the human body makes I knew that it's one of the most transient drugs ever observed in the body your body brings it back To baseline really quickly.
00:57:15.000But it hit him like a goddamn Mack truck.
00:57:19.000And he came out of it, and he just kept saying, life just becomes life, and then eats life and becomes life, and just, life just becomes life.
00:57:30.000It just goes on, it just goes on, it just goes on.
00:58:09.000And I was thinking, maybe this is like slapping a Corvette engine into a 1969 Dodge Dart that's got 289,000 miles and shaky shocks and bad brakes.
00:58:22.000It just seemed like, whoa, what have I done?
00:58:25.000When I did it, it felt like I got shot through a cannon.
00:58:30.000It was like the experience of the launch.
00:58:48.000And then it was just flying to know me.
00:58:51.000So like where I flew to, there was no me.
00:58:54.000There was no difference between me and the air that's in front of me and the wood that makes this table and the floor beneath and all the different molecules and atoms.
00:59:18.000Like it would bring you to this weird geometric white thing.
00:59:22.000Whereas DMT is like NN dimethyltryptamine.
00:59:26.0005-methoxy dimethyltryptamine is 5-MeO.
00:59:30.000And it's just a different visual experience than NN dimethyltryptamine, which is the one that brings you these intense...
00:59:36.000Visions of geometric patterns and dancing like the last time I did it was there were dancing Jokers that were giving me the finger They just kept giving me the finger, and I was like, oh, yeah, I deserve that.
01:00:34.000Yeah, because I gave this old psychiatrist three hits, and I saw him a couple weeks later, and he was like, oh, that was good, clean stuff.
01:01:14.000Last night I watched this documentary called The Sunshine Makers about the guys Owsley and the two guys who were making orange sunshine together, the famous acid of the 60s.
01:01:45.000Yeah Nicholas and Tim Scully unlikely duo at the heart of the 1960s American drug counterculture Wow Yeah, it's quite good.
01:01:54.000It's so weird that that was so incredibly recent but within like a few decades They had basically erased all evidence of it from culture except for a few fringe people Yeah, I mean, talk about old research.
01:02:07.000There were thousands, tens of thousands of scientific papers published on how hallucinogens affect the brain.
01:02:13.000In fact, the serotonergic system, the whole understanding of neurotransmitters really was fueled by trying to understand how so little LSD could make you so high.
01:02:24.000That's what got people into looking at neurotransmitters and the effects on consciousness in the late 50s.
01:02:30.000Anyway, I mean, we could talk forever about how hallucinogens have changed culture.
01:02:42.000But the movie, this guy says, you know, he's talking about how they're, like, doing the vats, and he's a chemist, and he's like, every once in a while, you know, you, like, touch something, and it's hot, and you go, oh, and you put your thumb in your mouth, and you're like, oh, I just took 200 micrograms of LSD. Like, oh,
01:03:05.000Now, isn't there like a number, like someone told me this, this is maybe one of those urban myths, like you have to register your hands as lethal weapons once you get your black belt.
01:03:47.000Correlation I wonder if there's a connection between like some of them have like really distorted perceptions of what's going on right now in Terms of like like an experience will happen and they'll have a version of the experience Yeah, and you'll relay your version of that experience and they didn't remember that at all and you're like man I don't know who's got this right because memory is kind of a slippery thing,
01:04:06.000but I don't remember him saying that to you, man.
01:04:08.000I don't remember someone doing that to you.
01:04:22.000But isn't it like somebody who works out and they mess up their back, and you say, well, you could blame it on working out, or you could blame it on working out wrong, or you could blame it on the fact that you probably already had a structural issue in your back that this just uncovered.
01:04:37.000So I think a lot of people who have bad experiences or end up fucked up from hallucinogens, They're going to be fucked up anyway.
01:05:10.000And it's one of the things that you've got to think about when you talk about food or alcohol or anything that people wind up getting addicted to, right?
01:05:17.000I mean, people can blow their brains out on a variety of different substances that are readily available.
01:05:23.000We're always looking for the reason for the effect, but normally it's a million reasons for an effect.
01:05:28.000But it's no consolation if your son goes crazy from taking acid.
01:05:32.000It's one of those things if acid became legal and your son walked into a CVS and bought acid and did too much of it with his friends and never came back and you had to take care of him when he's 50. No, it's no consolation, but a lot of people have psychotic breaks when their girlfriend breaks up with them the first time.
01:05:47.000So are we going to blame women for psychosis?
01:07:10.000But there's other ones where you're like, God, this feels terrible.
01:07:13.000You know, it's like an emotional flu that doesn't want to go away.
01:07:18.000And I think it's because we get addicted to each other.
01:07:21.000In the same way that we bonded to create these communal tribes of 50 people back in the day, those instincts still remain.
01:07:29.000And I think one of the reward systems, and you would know better than I, of connecting everybody together with this has got to be this deep Yeah, well, we need to be loved.
01:08:14.000So the 4th of July, they had the dog out in the backyard, and they went to watch some 4th of July thing, some party somewhere, and apparently the fireworks scared the dog, and the dog jumped the fence and took off.
01:08:26.000And so my dad and my sister were all freaked out, and they were putting up signs all over the neighborhood and calling into the shelters and all that.
01:08:34.000A day or two later, they get a call from a shelter.
01:08:40.000They're in the backyard throwing the ball with the dog, and my sister's boyfriend comes home, and he looks out the window, and he says to my mom, whose dog are they playing with?
01:11:12.000I watched a video online of a wild pig that had eaten through a cow's body and got stuck.
01:11:19.000And the farmer found the cow, and this wild pig is coming out through a hole in its stomach, like he'd eaten through the cow and got stuck.
01:11:29.000It's like Jim Carrey in Pet Detective.
01:11:31.000When he comes out of that zebra's ass.
01:12:59.000But there's always going to be an issue, even if we didn't eat any animals.
01:13:03.000If you don't want all of your vegetables eaten up by wild pigs, somebody has to control the population because there's no way to control them.
01:14:22.000And so these things are just, they're tanks!
01:14:25.000They're super durable tanks who are born at a ridiculous rate.
01:14:30.000There's millions of them roaming through the country.
01:14:32.000There was an article that I posted on Twitter just a few days ago where these scientists were saying it's just a matter of time before every county in every state has a wild pig problem.
01:14:44.000It's just they're not stopping the breeding, they're not stopping the growth, and they're just going to slowly spread out like coyotes.
01:15:12.000They're brought over here from different parts of the world.
01:15:14.000There's some ferocious Russian ones that are in the Northern California coast that are connected to, I think it was William Randolph Hearst.
01:16:37.000Yeah, I've got no problem eating something that lived a life, a free life, like these wild boars.
01:16:43.000What I have a problem with is the industrial process.
01:16:46.000Wild boars might be one of the few things that...
01:16:51.000We almost have enough where everybody can hunt them.
01:16:54.000Because, I mean, there's not enough deer, there's not enough elk for people to hunt in this country.
01:17:01.000Like, if everybody wanted to do what some people are trying to do, where they're just trying to get all the meat from the wild, there's just not enough wild.
01:17:09.000But there's enough for the amount of people that are doing it, for sure, definitely.
01:17:13.000But that's also why it's, like, really difficult to get certain tags for certain animals in certain areas where they do monitor the population and they say, well, we have, like, a certain amount here.
01:17:23.000This is the amount that we have and this is the amount that we think would be healthy to remove from the population because of the competition for food and this and that.
01:17:31.000And, you know, so these people compete for, not compete, but they put in their, like, they apply for a tag.
01:18:32.000Michael Pollan wrote a very interesting essay about him shooting a wild pig up in Sonoma.
01:18:38.000I think it's included in The Omnivore's Dilemma, his big bestseller, where he wanted to trace the origins of everything, every element of a meal, and so he built a book around that.
01:18:48.000But I remember reading that essay in The New Yorker, I think, and I was struck by how he conveys really powerfully the feeling of having killed something, where there was this sort of jubilation followed by shame,
01:19:05.000followed by confusion and disgust, and all these things were waves passing through him.
01:19:36.000Face it, you're killing shit, you know?
01:19:37.000And just because someone's doing it for you in a factory and cutting it up and putting in plastic, that doesn't mean you're not involved in that process.
01:19:45.000Would you be one of the people that would adopt lab-created meat?
01:19:49.000Would you put that in your diet once that actually happens?
01:19:52.000Because they're pretty sure that they're going to be able to make that happen soon.
01:19:55.000Or would you look at it and say, well, I mean, how would you look at it?
01:19:59.000I'd want to look at it scientifically and know what's the nutritional content because I'm very suspicious of these things that come out of laboratories.
01:20:09.000But if it turned out that it tasted the same, the nutritional content was as good as wild meat with grass-fed omega-3 and all that kind of stuff, the omega-3, omega-6 ratios were right.
01:21:20.000Do you know the whole, like, sort of fertilizer and, not fertilizer, pesticide and insecticide, you know, farm spraying crops and all that shit?
01:21:30.000That all started because at the end of World War II, there were huge stockpiles of chemical weapons that weren't used.
01:21:37.000And so they're like, what are we going to do with this shit?
01:25:53.000Anyway, so I ended up hooking up with this woman, and I remember one time, we're in my bed, and we're having sex, and the cat walks in, and he looks at me, and he backs up to my bookshelf and just...
01:27:09.000But he picked the one of me and you and Duncan and I'm telling the story about this cat and the pencil and the cats humping the pencil and all this shit.
01:28:40.000And I wrapped a climbing rope around it so they can climb straight up this thing.
01:28:44.000And then there's a series of shelves along the ceiling so they jump around and they can go all around the room and chase each other and hang out up there when you're having a party.
01:28:53.000They're like up there just hanging out watching people.
01:28:55.000Because that's where they want to be, right?
01:28:58.000And then on the terrace I built this big tree thing that they go on and there's a hammock in it and the cats get in the hammock and swing.
01:29:05.000So I love seeing animals happy, you know?
01:29:10.000I mean, maybe in a way, the things I write are trying to make people happy.
01:29:15.000Because what I'm trying to do is get people in their natural environment.
01:29:18.000That's what I'm writing about, you know?
01:30:28.000So the story is, okay, I'm eight years old, it's the 70s, and my parents are going to a bridge party at their friend's place, so there's no babysitter, they take me with me, and yeah, it's like, you know, Love American style, the Brady Bunch those days,
01:30:43.000if anyone's old enough to remember that shit.
01:30:46.000Anyway, so I'm like, hey, they put me in the basement in the family room, and they say, keep the door closed because the cat's in heat.
01:30:59.000So I go down, I watch a TV, and this fucking cat is just like all over the place, rubbing her ass on my leg and just like looking at me and just like, really?
01:31:09.000Because somebody scratched my itch, you know?
01:31:12.000And I look down and there's this pencil on the table next to the sofa.
01:36:01.000So she lived in a place where she would have waist-high water everywhere she went so the dolphin could swim freely through the house and live with her.
01:36:08.000But the dolphin was horny all the time.
01:36:10.000And so he didn't want to do his studies.
01:36:23.000They got in trouble, but recently, because she talked about it recently when she wrote a book about the time, and she was working with John Lilly, who went on to invent the sensory deprivation tank.
01:36:32.000Well, no, I think he'd already invented it at the time.
01:36:35.000He was on, like, one of the first iterations of it, and he was also giving acid to dolphins.
01:40:09.000I don't know what his official title was, but he was like the guy who got everything together, like got everybody in place and made sure everything was running.
01:42:31.000And even, like, you look, if you go back and look at videos from the Glory days, you know, the Dan Aykroyd days and, you know, John Belushi and all that, there was still a lot of filler in there.
01:44:02.000Yeah, Ralph Nader just kind of went with them.
01:44:04.000Well, what happened was, so Ali G's doing this whole thing where they're talking about the environment and global warming, and he says, well, but isn't a major cause of global warming the cow farts?
01:44:16.000And so shouldn't we just put balloons on cows?
01:44:20.000And he gets into this whole thing, right?
01:44:21.000And Ralph Nader's looking at him, and you can see When the balloons on the cow's asses thing comes out, Ralph Nader's like, oh, wait a minute.
01:44:30.000And so he just sort of, when Ali G finishes talking, he says, well, you know, scientists have been working on that, but it's very hard to develop a valve that perfectly fits a cow's asshole.
01:49:22.000Because people see famous people all the time in LA, so it's like, if you're like, oh, I saw Joe Rogan in the supermarket, people are like, yeah, yeah, whatever, man.
01:49:29.000It could also be that some people don't like talking about their work.
01:49:33.000Some people avoid talking about, especially talking about the work of stand-up when they're not talking to a stand-up.
01:52:18.000So it doesn't require personality or flair or sense of humor or unique points of view other than unless I recognize something, like a pattern that's happening in a fight that allows the people at home to enjoy it more and it allows the person who's fighting,
01:52:34.000the two people that are fighting, it represents them in an honorable way.
01:52:47.000I'm not into UFC. I've started watching it since I've been hanging out with you, and I've gotten to know some of the personalities, and I've watched the whole Ronda Rousey thing, and this guy, the Irish guy.
01:54:18.000By the fifth fight of the night, I'm totally in the groove, and I'm just laser focused, concentrating on the action, trying to pick the right words, trying to describe it in the right way, and trying to give that perspective to someone at home that might not be seeing something that I might be seeing.
01:54:35.000Yeah, especially all the wrestling, grappling techniques and shit.
01:54:40.000People are used to seeing boxing and they know what an uppercut is or a hook or whatever, but yeah, when they get on the ground, I have no idea what's going on and you're talking about the arm bar and this and that.
01:56:03.000Staph infections are a real big deal, too.
01:56:05.000Sometimes people will get staph from the fighter they're fighting, and you find out the guy had a sore, a staph sore, and he wasn't alerting anybody to it.
01:56:54.000Because you don't get the vaginal bath of skin flora, and also intestines.
01:56:59.000They've actually rubbed vaginal, whatever that jazz is, on babies post-birth that have been given cesarean sections just to sort of get it on them.
01:57:08.000Because if you don't, it gets colonized by whatever's floating around in the air, and you don't want what's floating in the air in the hospital.
01:58:58.000And I picked this massive 1,000, 1,500 mile, whatever, like, see all of Southern Africa, which was dumb because you're just sitting in a van most of the time.
01:59:08.000What kind of shots did you have to get?
01:59:55.000Well, I mean, I've been doing it for years.
01:59:57.000When I was on the road, backpacking in places, tropical places, I was eating raw garlic every day, which is really good for your intestines, by the way, your intestinal flora and all that.
02:00:55.000Anytime there's any feeling at all of stomach disease or if I feel bad and I feel like I'm a little run down, I just choke down a bunch of cloves of garlic.
02:01:05.000The other day I did it and it hit me so hard I had to take a knee.
02:02:15.000Like the most rotten meat you could ever...
02:02:19.000Like if you opened up a refrigerator and the power had gone off while you were on vacation and you came back and there was some hamburger meat that was rotten.
02:02:43.000It was all going on inside my stomach because I wasn't eating much.
02:02:46.000And it was something that went around through my whole house, my littlest daughter.
02:02:50.000I mean, I didn't know what she was going through, but she was just constantly complaining about her stomach being really awful for like a whole week.
02:02:57.000We were skiing in Aspen, and that's when it kicked in.
02:03:00.000And when I get back, I was like, oh no, like this is bad.
02:03:04.000I was like, I don't know if I could do this show.
02:03:08.000Like a wet fart or something, or like, uh-oh.
02:03:11.000No, I haven't, but interestingly enough, there's a new law that just got, well, it might be proposed, a new rule got proposed for the unified rules of mixed martial arts, where if you shit yourself, they stop the fight.
02:03:44.000And Benil Darius, it was a big, because I remember it was a big victory for him because he choked Benil Darius out, which was giant, because Benil Darius was like super respected, jiu-jitsu black belt.
02:03:54.000And Michael Chiesa, as he got into the octagon, looked over at me, he goes, dude, I might shit my pants!
02:03:59.000He goes, I might shit my pants right while the fight's going on.
02:04:24.000I was convinced I was going to shit myself.
02:04:26.000I used to get, like, before I would go on a TV show or do a big public speaking thing where there were going to be a lot of people there, I would, like, five, ten minutes before I was supposed to go on stage, I'd be like, I need to take a dump.
02:04:51.000It's like, oh, I've got to get my shit together, literally, and get it out of me so I'm light.
02:04:57.000Well, it's also your body does not want to waste any resources dealing with that because it feels like there's some catastrophe about to take place.
02:05:05.000There's a video of these two bears, these giant bears, and it was in that movie Grizzly Man, that crazy dude that lived up.
02:06:27.000I was talking to him about it, and it's like he's running all these marathons in the fucking desert with no water and in the Arctic and, you know.
02:07:57.000It's about the way running shoes are developed.
02:08:01.000Yeah, and how our bodies are designed to run on the balls of our feet.
02:08:04.000And he goes down and lives with the Tarahumar Indians in Mexico and the Barranca del Cobre, where I was in 1988. I was back there with those Indians.
02:08:15.000And they run into like really thin shoes or barefoot.
02:08:17.000Barefoot or they make these sandals out of tire.
02:09:22.000Occasionally I'll do like an elliptical machine or something like that with shoes on.
02:09:26.000But I feel like when you are barefoot, like I do yoga barefoot obviously, I feel like when you're barefoot you can feel your toes are like digging into the ground.
02:10:44.000Yeah, there's some nefarious intentions.
02:10:46.000I just like watching dogs fuck robots.
02:10:50.000It's just for, yeah, dogs that wander by.
02:10:54.000Yeah, my friend Joe, when I was growing up, Joe Spagnuolo, he had a dog that was this really ornery little dog, and this dog had a stuffed animal that it would fuck.
02:11:07.000And it would just bite this stuffed animal and fuck the shit out of it.
02:11:11.000And you'd come over his house, Joe Spaggs, you'd go over his house and his dog would be fucking the shit out of this stuffed animal.
02:12:30.000Oh, that's interesting, because I was under the impression that people just died of violence and a lot of diseases by the time they were in their 30s.
02:12:37.000No, most of the diseases that we suffer from are the result of agriculture.
02:12:43.000So you look at all the major killers of humans.
02:13:23.000By 1957, it rose to 66. 2007, it reached 75. Unlike the most recent increase in life expectancy, which is attributed largely to a decline in half of the leading causes of death, including heart disease, homicide, and influenza, the increase in life expectancy between 1907 and 2007 was largely due to the decreasing infant mortality rate,
02:13:50.000Is like the wage gap, the gender wage gap issue.
02:13:55.000Where a lot of people say, they love to quote that thing, they say that men make so much more money than women that women make sort of 80 cents to the dollar.
02:14:33.000Some men will fucking work themselves to death where very few women will take it to that level.
02:14:37.000There certainly are plenty of examples of men and women doing exactly the same job and women are getting paid less.
02:14:43.000I'm sure it must happen, but it's not statistically significant.
02:14:47.000Statistically, it's not what you're talking about.
02:14:48.000Yeah, and you know what they attribute that from?
02:14:50.000When women get less, they think that one thing to be considered when you look at that is that women might not be as aggressive when they're negotiating a starting salary.
02:15:07.000So I was under the impression that people did die...
02:15:10.000Yeah, well, most people are under that impression.
02:15:12.000I've given talks at medical schools and stuff, and all these doctors think that everyone died at 35. A 35-year-old was old.
02:15:20.000And it works its way into medicine, where they're like, okay, look, the reason you have chronic back pain is that the human body was not evolved to live beyond 35. And so, of course, you have wear and tear and things like that.
02:15:39.000It's like if Bill Gates moves into your neighborhood, suddenly everyone's average annual salary is hundreds of millions of dollars, right?
02:15:46.000So if you count all these infants who died in prehistory, many of whom, by the way, died from infanticide, like twins normally are not allowed to survive.
02:15:56.000The weaker one is left in the woods to die.
02:16:22.000Was just because the times were harder then, and it was more accepted that you were going to have to do some terrible things that you didn't want to do?
02:16:28.000Well, it's just that, you know, if a kid's born physically fucked up in some way, You know, you're not going to have the resources, and that person's not going to grow up to contribute to the group.
02:16:43.000And so generally, and also there's a different sense of life and death.
02:16:49.000You know, I think where death is much more a daily presence, it's not that big a deal.
02:16:55.000I was reading about a tribe in the Amazon.
02:16:59.000I can't remember the name of the tribe, but when someone gets too old to keep up with the group, Someone is chosen randomly, like they have a lottery or pick the shortest straw or whatever it is, and their job is to come up behind this old person and hit him in the back of the head with a hatchet.
02:19:26.000In Germany they had, what are they called, angel makers.
02:19:30.000And this is through the beginning of the 20th century up to World War II. It was a nanny that you hired with the understanding that your baby was going to die.
02:20:08.000And I don't want to get into, you know, heavy shit, but like now if a baby's inconvenient or there's a disease that's detected or whatever, you know.
02:20:41.000And there are a lot of issues like that.
02:20:43.000Yeah, it's one of those things where people scream at you and get crazy and they'll pick a side and it's death and it's this and it's that and it's a woman's choice to choose and it's...
02:20:54.000Like, I got in an argument once with a comedian about it and he...
02:20:59.000It was about Richard Dawkins was talking about a, um, it was on Twitter, that an embryo, a human embryo, is like, it's almost no different than a pig embryo.
02:21:10.000Like, he was making this, like, about, you know, six weeks of life or whatever it would be.
02:24:39.000And no woman can tell me whether to get a vasectomy or not, or a prostate exam, or whatever the fuck it is.
02:24:44.000They just passed a law in, I don't know, Arkansas or somewhere, that husbands need to be informed before a woman can have an abortion, and a husband can stop it, even if she's been raped.
02:24:59.000Yeah, a husband or a wife being able to tell the other one what they can or can't do with a medical procedure that's illegal, that definitely becomes an ownership issue.
02:25:08.000Like, if your wife told you you couldn't get a vasectomy, I will not allow it.
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