This week, the boys are joined by comedian Steven Crowder (The Nasty Show) to talk about Moby, Trump, and a whole lot of other things. They also talk about how they got into comedy, and how they came up with the name "Nasty" and what it means to be a comedian in the 21st century. Also, they talk about the first time they met each other, and why they don't have the same name as each other. They also discuss how they first met and became friends, and what they do in their spare time to make money on the internet. And of course, there's a special guest appearance from their good friend and former co-worker Steve Crowder! Enjoy the episode and don't forget to leave us a rating and a review on Apple Podcasts! If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and tell a friend about the podcast and we'll give you a shoutout! Thank you so much for all the love and support you've been showing us love, support, and support! We really appreciate it. Cheers! -Your continued support is so appreciated and we really appreciate all the support we've gotten so far. Thank you for all your support, we really do appreciate all of the love, we've got a lot going on in this episode. and we're looking forward to seeing you back next week! Love ya. -Moby and the boys! XOXO! xoxo -P.S. -PODCAST -Drew and the crew xo - The Nasty and the Nasty show! -PJ & the boys. PODCASTING is a little bit more! . -JACOB P.O. -JOSEPH AND THE NICKY SHOW -SORRY FOR ALL THE MONEY! -JUICY! -DUYO! -TALKER - JOSY & THE MOSCHEESE - DADDY'S MOSYCH AND THE DOGS - POTTERY - SONGS - MOBY AND THE PODOSY CHECK OUT THE JOYDS AND THE FASTEST AND THE MOST CHEERING - YA'LLY AND JAYBODY - BONUS EPISODES
00:00:49.000Moby says he has, like, inside information about Donald Trump, that he knows that Donald Trump talked to the Russians.
00:00:54.000First of all, when you look at Moby with his fucking hashtag vegan t-shirt on, do you really think anybody in the Russian fucking intelligence community is talking to Moby?
00:01:02.000Actually, it would be a brilliant ploy from the Russians.
00:01:04.000They just give a little info to Moby, like, you go, you tell them, and he's going to do it, you know?
00:01:09.000You should definitely leak this information.
00:02:49.000Steven Crowder, who's from Louder with Crowder, his internet show, and he has a thing on his internet show where you have like a little pipe rack.
00:07:49.000And we've seen this transition with Trump or people who are really afraid to speak out now.
00:07:54.000You're seeing that change online because the establishment has been Barack Obama.
00:07:58.000So kids who were raised for eight years under Bush, man, I hate Bush, you know, listen to NoFX, go to the Vans Warped Tour, whatever it is.
00:08:04.000And now they've been raised under Obama for eight years and all this political correctness is run amok and they're rejecting that.
00:08:09.000So for the longest time, you know, I had this small YouTube channel and I was on Fox.
00:08:13.000So I was kind of muzzled a little bit because I was there and there were certain things that I could say or couldn't say online because it was a liability.
00:09:03.000So, you know, I like to think, but, you know, there's also the real possibility that people just don't like me because, you know, I'm kind of a dick.
00:09:09.000Well, you can be a dick sometimes, but you're a funny dick.
00:11:02.000I went back in the Roman times, in the Colosseum.
00:11:05.000This is what, and I can't entirely corroborate this.
00:11:07.000I will say this, but I can corroborate it when you do.
00:11:09.000So they would bring up the lions, and they said the lions have to be on three points and can paw, whereas the Siberian tigers would leverage back and pounce.
00:11:20.000Not to mention that the tigers are way bigger, but they were able to just go back on their two legs, whereas the lion has to have three points of contact, which is like a dog giving the paw.
00:11:54.000You gotta train them good, but they're sketch.
00:11:56.000Well, he ran for president with Dean Cain, and he had like a few hundred votes, which I felt bad about, because it was a gag.
00:12:01.000So who knows if that changed the state of Michigan.
00:12:03.000But, by the way, if it starts going out, you put two fingers over, kind of create a slipstream, and suck it in, and it'll give you, probably not now, you probably need to relight it.
00:12:25.000It was one of the things like he wanted to fly and he would only fly if he could smoke on the plane because he was so addicted to tobacco that he had to constantly smoke.
00:15:28.000Have you noticed a change kind of in the air of Trump?
00:15:31.000Well, culturally, I think there's, I know this sounds like a broken record, but counterculture-wise, you have a lot of people who were afraid to even speak up, even from the last time I was on the show, where they've been called racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic as a new thing, where everyone's going, you know what?
00:16:30.000Well, my friend, I can't say his name because it's illegal, actually had his concealed carry with him in an Uber and he forgot his magazine and that person rated him like a one.
00:16:38.000So it took one bad rating to drop his score because he had to call him and say, hey, I think I forgot something in the back of your car.
00:17:49.000She goes, because Donald Trump removed the gay rights thing on the website.
00:17:52.000I said, what about the fact that all presidents, they remove everything from the previous administration?
00:17:56.000And they put up a whole new whitehouse.gov website.
00:17:59.000And these people, they buy in LA, they're in such an insular bubble.
00:18:02.000I don't think they realize that there's a whole bunch of people who voted for Donald Trump.
00:18:06.000And I wasn't a fan of him in the primaries.
00:18:08.000But they didn't vote for him because they're racist.
00:18:10.000They didn't vote for him because they don't want Caitlyn Jenner to take a dump at Trump Towers.
00:18:13.000They didn't vote for him because they hate brown people.
00:18:16.000They voted for him because they're tired of being called all those things.
00:18:19.000And that's why I think you see a lot of these young people who just kind of want to be instigators and provocateurs.
00:18:24.000At the same time, they're appreciating more traditionalism and some of the values their parents try to instill in them because that's kind of more rebellious than going along with the entertainment industry.
00:18:33.000Well, there's always this sort of longing for nostalgia that people exhibit.
00:18:37.000There's always like, back in the good old days.
00:18:39.000Like, back in the good old days is bullshit.
00:18:41.000Because the good old days, you died of syphilis.
00:18:43.000And the good old days, people got fucking plagued from rats.
00:18:51.000There's always this longing for nostalgia.
00:18:54.000I think you're right with some people, but for sure there's some people that are racist that voted for Donald Trump just because some people are racist.
00:19:02.000But to try and paint, I mean, if you look at the numbers, a huge percentage of people who voted for Barack Obama had to have voted for Donald Trump, particularly in Michigan and Pennsylvania.
00:19:11.000Well, don't you think that they probably voted for him, a lot of it is for economic reasons, because they thought that he's going to loosen up some regulations, encourage industry?
00:19:22.000I think a lot of the union voters, they thought Hillary Clinton was in the pocket of Goldman Sachs, and they thought Donald Trump, his sort of economic protectionism, is going to bring jobs back to the Midwest.
00:20:01.000The thing about that stuff is it's always one fucking person or a couple people out of hundreds of thousands that are acting in that mob mentality and doing violent shit.
00:20:51.000There were reports of rapes that occurred.
00:20:53.000Were they rape rapes, or were they like...
00:20:55.000I think back then they were rape rapes.
00:20:57.000Back then, Lena Dunham wasn't, you know, shoving fast food napkins in her sister's cooch, claiming she was raped because she saw the condom in a potted plant.
00:22:07.000So the day of the Women's March, when there were hundreds of thousands of people all over the country marching together in one day, there was never a movement like that for the Tea Party.
00:23:27.000And essentially he was saying that these people that were doing what they're claiming they're fighting fascists, he's like, you're being a fascist.
00:23:34.000Do you understand what a fascist means?
00:23:53.000We need to call this out, and we need to take ownership over this, and we need to squash it, because it's becoming a real problem.
00:24:00.000It's also a problem when you say the left, the left or the right, because it's not necessarily just the left.
00:24:05.000It's these fucking idiots that go to these things and put masks on and want to beat people up and mace women.
00:24:10.000I saw that girl with a Make Bitcoin Great Again hat.
00:24:13.000She had a joke hat and someone hit her over the head with a stick that was holding up a sign and then another guy maced her in the face.
00:24:22.000At inauguration, you had people getting pulled out of cars, getting punched, you know, Occupy Wall Street, you had people putting bloody rags on tents that they claimed had AIDS. I mean, anywhere, again, just go back through history in the last decade, it's very different.
00:24:35.000You have to speak in generalities to save time.
00:24:37.000But as a general rule, if you look at The right, if you look at, for example, the Tea Party, you look at the movement, people who were complaining about the stimulus package, you look at people with economic problems with Barack Obama, they didn't riot, they didn't beat people up in record numbers, there was not a single trash can lit on fire thrown through a window.
00:24:55.000That seems to be a common occurrence at these leftist protests.
00:26:05.000That's something that people need to recognize about Hillary Clinton.
00:26:07.000She was anti-gay marriage as recently as 2013. She was speaking in 2013 and she said, I believe that marriage is a bond between a man and a woman.
00:26:18.000In 2013. And she was making arguments, too.
00:26:22.000It wasn't like she was put on the spot and, well, I think she was out there arguing against same-sex marriage.
00:26:28.000So, you know, my point here is they're out of power.
00:27:08.000But I think people are also freaking out.
00:27:10.000They're freaking out about his appointment of a Golden Sacks executive.
00:27:14.000They're freaking out over what's happening with that Flynn fellow who was forced to resign because he was coordinating with Russia and talking about removing sanctions before they got into office and all that stuff.
00:29:05.000There's a lot of meathead qualities that I possess, although I'm a kind person who's very open-minded and probably more left than I am right, if you looked at a giant spectrum.
00:29:28.000I just think one of the real problems that I have right now with all these protesters and all these people that are going crazy and calling everybody Nazis is you're stifling communication.
00:30:10.000It may not be true, but what do you think about what Breitbart was saying, like, way back in 2011 about Podesta, that Podesta, like, shields pedophiles.
00:30:48.000Well, because you asked me about it, and the first thing where my antenna went up with Pizzagate is they said James Aliphantus means I love kids in French.
00:30:56.000And I know where they're trying to get it from.
00:31:21.000But no, that is a symbol that the FBI admits that they use in these secret organizations when they capture pedophiles, which they do all the time, they use that symbol.
00:32:39.000I mean, he was actually the guy who got my start.
00:32:40.000And he wrote about that, you know, Neverland Ranch.
00:32:43.000His photographer was a pornographer who specialized in European actors who looked underage.
00:32:50.000And so once he talked about this, the guy was fired from Neverland Ranch.
00:32:54.000I think it was six months later he was back.
00:32:56.000So my point with the Pizzagate stuff is there are things that are provable, like that, which people can go search Andrew Breitbart and find that story.
00:33:02.000And because people are cocked and loaded to hate someone from the right online...
00:33:09.000You really do go into a different voice with nasty words.
00:33:12.000That was my Beavis and Butthead voice.
00:33:14.000Because of that, I'd rather dwell on stories that we know we can prove, or commentary, because it's really easy to go, oh, Crowder was wrong with Pizzagate, or whatever it is, so there's so much there that's real.
00:34:36.000And then realized, like, holy shit, these people are telling me that my kid didn't die.
00:34:41.000Well, I realized how dangerous this whole thinking that the government's spraying shit in the sky for mind control and the CIA's a mind control organization.
00:35:48.000Jamie's got tweet deck, and he sets up one hashtag, black Twitter, and it's just all black Twitter references, and he tells me that people steal from black Twitter, and they make jokes on late night TV. Yeah,
00:38:07.000I think if you hit someone after the bell and it's really clear it should be an immediate point deduction and they should be given time to recover more than a minute.
00:40:37.000You never hear Guy Metzger yelling at people.
00:40:39.000And he's also, you know, he's worked really hard to mitigate some of his brain trauma and been really open about it, which I think is very, very, very important.
00:40:49.000Because it's like this silent thing that guys don't want to talk about the issues that they're dealing with from fighting.
00:42:51.000Because Babalu was one of the first Brazilian wrestlers, which a lot of people don't know.
00:42:56.000I mean, he was a black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu and very good striker and all those things.
00:42:59.000But he also was on the Brazilian national wrestling team back in the day.
00:43:03.000And so Brad Kohler, who's like this really beefed up fucking just jacked dude, couldn't touch him on the feet, and Babalu eventually got him tired out, and when he dropped him, got him down to the ground, he fucking soccer kicked him into oblivion.
00:43:17.000Those days when you could soccer kick someone who was already tired and down, those are dark days.
00:43:23.000But to put into context, the Brazilian national wrestling team, They'd be like benchers to Oklahoma State wrestlers.
00:43:52.000You know, there's no one in female wrestling, no one who would even come close to her level of experience.
00:43:57.000And the same can be said about Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
00:43:59.000You know, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, which isn't in the Olympics yet, but really should be, is there's some phenomenal, like, have you seen Mackenzie Dern?
00:44:06.000Have you seen her compete in MMA? She has one of the most badass choke outs that I've ever seen in my life.
00:44:14.000She started with an omoplata, worked her way to this girl's back.
00:44:17.000She's got this move that she does where she gets a girl in an omoplata and she rolls over onto her back and chokes this chick out.
00:44:24.000Apparently, she hits this move all the time.
00:44:27.000Well, they teach something similar to that at Marcelo Garcia School in New York, where if ever someone's turtling, you wedge your knee into their ribs and their hip crease, and you kind of get around, not quite an omoplata, but you're bringing your other leg around their front, and you're wrapping, and you're blocking.
00:44:40.000Let's say you're coming in from your right side.
00:44:43.000You block their left arm, which is something we actually would learn in judo quite a bit, a really basic back.
00:44:48.000So you block it by taking an underhook and grabbing wrist control?
00:44:51.000Yeah, so you're putting a knee in and you're grabbing wrist control around.
00:44:55.000And when you control this, the way they taught it to me, like if you watch Marcelo Garcia, they'll just go for the choke straight from there.
00:45:00.000They don't even need to get their hooks in.
00:46:31.000He got really good at takedowns, really good at trips, really good at guard passing, and side control, a few chokes, paper cutter chokes, things like that.
00:46:38.000And he's diverse enough where he can protect himself in areas.
00:47:20.000So he can try his, you know, scissor sweep, which is a big thing for him as a strong guy, and if it doesn't work, he can do a technical standout and come up.
00:47:27.000Well, Halston Gracie has the best description of jiu-jitsu.
00:47:30.000He said, you do this, then I do that, then you do this, then I do that, forever.
00:51:51.000She's like, you just said, you know what?
00:51:53.000I don't really know, but I'm a libertarian, so he wouldn't even be in Aleppo, so what does it matter?
00:51:57.000Yeah, but see, I don't buy that either, man.
00:51:59.000Once you've entangled yourself in the world of politics, foreign politics, and international politics, the idea that you're not going to be there anymore.
00:52:06.000Well, we found out what happens with that in Iraq.
00:52:09.000We found out what happens with that in Libya.
00:52:11.000You create a vacuum, and that vacuum is filled by terrible, terrible people.
00:52:15.000Well, particularly when you give them a timetable of when you're going to pull out, like Barack Obama.
00:52:18.000Yeah, you know, and everyone on the right was saying, well, listen, that's a mistake.
00:52:21.000No, no, no, this is going to work well, trust me.
00:52:23.000But in his defense, what the fuck else do you do?
00:53:18.000Well, the point is, people like Bernie or Hillary, when they do that, until you realize, hold on a second, there's a line, and I've lined up with everyone except for the rest of America.
00:55:35.000And rent was cheaper in Old Money Upper East Side than in East Village or Lower East Side, because that's where all the hipsters and the artists were, so they all wanted to be there now, and the Upper East Side was seen as not cool.
00:55:46.000So I got a place that was so inexpensive compared to if I wanted to live downtown.
00:56:06.000Bertrand and Russell are very intellectual.
00:56:09.000We smoke pipes and stomp on the little man.
00:56:12.000Yeah, I think you're right, and I think it also, I mean, there's obviously, this is where leftists tend to congregate, leftist ideology in big cities, right?
00:56:19.000They want you on public transportation, they want you dependent on the government.
00:56:23.000No, they want you, well, bikes, public transport, but certainly they want to limit what kind of cars you can drive, how far you can drive them, you look at any big city.
00:56:31.000They definitely want to reduce independence, and there's a real out-of-touchiness.
00:56:34.000Well, do you think that's what it really is?
00:56:35.000No, they want to reduce carbon emissions.
00:56:51.000Maybe some percentage of the people do, but if Tesla came out with some car that you could drive across the country on one charge, you think people would be suppressing that?
00:59:11.000No, you were trying to say that if you really wanted to save money on gas, you'd get a fucking shitty old Ford Fiesta, and that's nonsense.
00:59:25.000Joe, Joe, you can yell about it all you want, but here's the truth.
00:59:26.000You're wrong by many tens of miles per gallon.
00:59:30.000You are incorrect if you look at the actual price of a Prius versus the best thing you can do for the environment is buy an old beater car.
00:59:36.000Buy an old Camaro that's horribly on gas.
01:01:43.000Shouldn't everyone be on board with that?
01:01:45.000Why do you have people like Bernie Sanders or Nancy Pelosi banning them or Austin politicians and constituents banning them from their city?
01:01:52.000If we're talking about sharing, socialism, you can't do Uber in Austin.
01:01:59.000Do you think they're doing that because they want taxis to survive?
01:02:02.000No, I think they're doing it because just like people like to throw out this big conspiracy about big bankers and their own self-interest, which is true, I think that people don't want to acknowledge that the left is beholden to giant cabbie unions who are punching people in the face in New York because Uber removes their surcharge and decides to ignore the Trump travel ban.
01:02:18.000I think they're against Airbnb because they're beholden to, for example, the culinary union who might work certain hotels.
01:02:23.000Did you just sneak in an aside about the Trump travel ban when you were talking to No, no, that was what happened.
01:02:27.000People were protesting an Uber in New York City.
01:02:30.000They went in, and they were still going to the airport.
01:02:32.000The cabbies unions in New York said, we're not going to go.
01:02:34.000And so people were punching Uber drivers.
01:02:36.000People were getting furious about it, saying, you're scabs.
01:02:56.000So Uber's going in, and they're removing their surcharge.
01:02:59.000Well, if we're talking about the sharing economy, if we're talking about bringing in refugees and resettling them against people's will, right?
01:03:06.000Well, just take that and say, okay, instead of resettling refugees against somebody's will because you want to share, what about somebody deciding to share their car at an agreed-upon service or share their house?
01:03:16.000And the left, the political left, has fought against that vehemently.
01:03:27.000Let's go with Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi, Elizabeth Warren.
01:03:30.000What they want to do is either get Uber banned in cities, as you see in cities like Austin or in cities in Europe, or they want to make sure that cabi-unions either get first right or that Uber hires these union workers.
01:03:41.000Well, I definitely have an issue with that.
01:03:43.000So let's pull up that story that Bernie Sanders is in favor of banning Uber, Bernie Sanders Uber.
01:03:51.000And let's break that down and unpack it because I think when something comes along that's better and it fucks with a business that is worse, the better things should win because that's progress.
01:04:18.000As long as they certify and test you and make sure you're not a crazy person, as long as they know where you are at every time, they can actually monitor your You can make like 35 bucks an hour doing that.
01:04:36.000Wouldn't you rather do that if you have a car like a Prius that gets 50 fucking eight miles to the gallon?
01:05:12.000You're more balls deep in politics than I am.
01:05:15.000So let's, Jamie's gonna pull up a story and we're gonna figure out what the fuck is wrong with Bernie Sanders' take on it from an individual point of view.
01:05:22.000Yeah, or you can look up, I mean, you can even look up European cities that have banned it or Austin.
01:05:27.000I remember watching those cab drivers that had decided to block streets.
01:05:31.000They decided to shut their cars off in the middle of the street and literally stop cars from passing.
01:05:35.000People had to go way around them and it was a huge issue.
01:05:38.000The reason the term political left and right matters right now, to me anyway, it may not matter to some people, but the reason it matters to me is because you do look at one side of the political spectrum right now, and I think the line's been pretty clear in this last election, where there's an ideological divide, and where one is deliberately looking at marginalizing and targeting and dividing victimized groups,
01:05:57.000and they do so and ignore other groups of people who are victimized as a result of them complaining about victimization.
01:06:11.000I was trying to find a quote about what he had, so here's about what I guess he has serious problems with it.
01:06:17.000Serious problems with popular mobile ride hailing service Uber.
01:06:22.000Speaking with Bloomberg, the Democratic presidential candidate, contender rather, called the service unregulated, wading into one of the most closely watched economic debates of the 2016 race.
01:06:34.000Workers on demand at on-demand economy companies like Uber, Airbnb, or Lyft are considered independent contractors and therefore do not receive the benefits and protections afforded to full-time employees.
01:06:46.000Okay, so I could see that, but they do make more money.
01:08:31.000The drivers in Denver, Detroit, and Houston make less than $13.25 an hour after expenses using calculations based on more than a million trips.
01:08:43.000This spring, Uber was hit with two class action lawsuits from drivers in Florida and Illinois who seek to recover unpaid overtime wages and other expenses.
01:09:20.000California, Massachusetts, big union strongholds.
01:09:22.000But if they have lawsuits, and if there is a lawsuit that does make sense enough where a judge decides that they're going to rule against Uber...
01:09:39.000But wouldn't you assume that the lawyers and the judges in Massachusetts would make a strong enough case where they would show the legality of it to the point where it wouldn't lose a $100 million lawsuit?
01:10:25.000Just for example, that's why when we do hidden camera videos, we have to make sure that it's a one-party consent state as opposed to a two-party consent state.
01:10:31.000Right, like Nevada, when they used to do those prank call shows.
01:11:02.000That depending on the judge read as a two-party consent state.
01:11:05.000So that's really scary because you can be in the clear, right?
01:11:08.000We recorded a prank call or we found some kind of corruption and it should be legal, but there's a little wiggle room where they can say, actually, this isn't legal and you committed a felony.
01:11:19.000So in these right-to-work states, when you have this Uber situation, is the issue that it's taking cabs out of business, or is the issue that they are not paying people enough and they're taking cabs out of business?
01:11:34.000So the cab drivers, if they switched over to becoming Uber drivers, they would actually lose money because these companies aren't regulated, so they don't have to pay insurance, health insurance.
01:11:45.000I mean, that seems like what the issue is, right?
01:11:48.000That's what they would say the issues are.
01:12:54.000Because there's some competition there.
01:12:55.000But if the government steps in and says, no, you have to use the cabbies unions, well, even then you can artificially increase wages at the expense of the taxpayer who now has to pay more for a taxi ride.
01:13:18.000And I think there's also a real problem with people resisting change because technologically influenced change is coming at such a high rate.
01:13:26.000There's no way you could put a finger in all the holes in the dam.
01:13:29.000There's too many things that are happening that are going to change the way we communicate, change the way we do business, change everything from top to bottom.
01:13:38.000You're not going to be able to stop it.
01:13:39.000So anytime you're trying to stop something like an Uber, the only thing that I think is that...
01:13:44.000You've got to figure out, how's the money being distributed, and is that fair?
01:13:48.000And if it's not fair, what's the solution?
01:13:52.000Because is the solution alert people to what the actual numbers are and let it all sort itself out, or is it passing regulation?
01:14:01.000I'm a firm believer that the less regulation you have...
01:14:05.000The better right and that's what it's not like environmental pollution type shit the invisible hand right the mark that moves the market I certainly believe that the market is more efficient at regulating itself than the government creating a monopoly Well, also because unions can be influenced.
01:14:21.000And when you get large groups of people together, I think it's good because what a union can do is they can say, you know, hey, we're going to stand strong.
01:14:31.000We're not going to let these people take advantage of us like some sort of slave labor factory in the Middle East or wherever the fuck it is.
01:14:54.000It's no different than being the mayor of a city or the leader of a country.
01:14:57.000It's no different than being beholden to Goldman Sachs or J.P. Morgan.
01:15:01.000And if you look at the top political donors, you can bring that up from Open Secrets, if you look at the top 20, it's like 16 out of the top 20 are big unions.
01:15:07.000So this idea that it's big banks and the Koch brothers and energy companies...
01:15:11.000No one wields more influence in American politics today than big unions, particularly the Democratic Party.
01:15:17.000Because it's power, because they can influence the people that are members.
01:15:19.000Or they can also take dues from you, give 100% to Democrats, and you have no say.
01:15:23.000Well, it's one of the big contributors to the war against drugs.
01:15:26.000One of the big things that's happening in this country is the prison guard unions have spent money to ensure that innocuous things like marijuana are They stay illegal.
01:15:38.000Because if they stay illegal, then they keep their jobs.
01:15:40.000Like, they've literally fought for that.
01:15:42.000Like, fought to keep more people in cages, because that would earn them more money.
01:15:55.000I didn't say black and white because I meant black and white people.
01:15:57.000I meant black and white in terms of the reality of the situation is that prison guard unions are spending money and using their influence to ensure...
01:16:36.000That's actually not true if you look at the collective donations from union members and from union organizations.
01:16:40.000And when you look at that, and what bothers me is when people follow the money trail on only one side and act as though the political left is unbeholden to people.
01:16:49.000Big point, what you just said, on one side.
01:16:51.000Because I think you can see the benefits in unions as well.
01:16:54.000You can see the benefits in protecting wages, and making sure that people get insurance, and making sure that people live a good life.
01:17:01.000That, like, if you're going to work for this company, you're going to be well compensated, and there's going to be an agreement between the workers, And the people that run the company.
01:17:29.000So he's getting less than, well, if you add up all the workers, not the full-time workers, it would be less than $10 per person he's employing and providing an active living.
01:17:38.000So when you have workers who say, well, he has 19 million, that's more than, I have no million, 19 is 19 more millions.
01:17:45.000These people, they pick an arbitrary number.
01:17:47.000That's what Bernie Sanders was doing in the debate with Ted Cruz.
01:17:49.000Whether you like him or not, it was such a floor mopping because Bernie Sanders dealt with these phantom fears and, again, tried to victimize groups and marginalized groups.
01:17:58.000And my point that I was talking about there is, for example, we talked about the victimized groups, the marginalized groups who don't have insurance in the country, right?
01:18:11.000So you talk about them, and they're getting more affordable insurance now, and now the play is, we're going to take all these people off of insurance.
01:18:17.000Okay, so we're talking about that victimized group, people who didn't buy insurance.
01:18:20.000But what about the people who've seen their premiums go up?
01:19:15.000You subsidize, technically, healthcare at the cost of other taxpayers who couldn't afford it, and now they can't afford healthcare.
01:19:21.000Let's start from the beginning, because you went way out there, and you started out with the CEO. I went out there, and you have Alex Jones on the show, and I went out there.
01:19:28.000You went out there in terms of you covered so many different things before anybody could address either one of them.
01:19:33.000You have to slow down and take it point by point if you want to.
01:19:37.000You said that this guy makes so much money that if everybody gave him 10 bucks, like, why should they give him 10 bucks?
01:20:27.000You can just tell them, this is too much.
01:20:29.000But don't you think, and this is what I think, if that guy really does make that amount of money, he's probably like, how the fuck am I pulling this off?
01:20:36.000All he's doing is extracting numbers from some system by his choices.
01:21:20.000But it should be determined by the value of a company and the services rendered, not some arbitrary number because Bernie Sanders throws at a percentage point.
01:21:28.000I'm just saying, well, I think it's totally within the interest of all the people that work for a company that are critical to this company actually working to figure out, like, hey, how much should we get for this?
01:21:40.000And when one guy's getting 15 million bucks and the other guy's getting $15 an hour, and you've got to, like, this guy, if this guy doesn't work, this guy doesn't get any money.
01:21:55.000So I don't think it's outside the realm of rational discourse to discuss how much a person should make to be a CEO. No, I don't think it's outside the realm of rational discourse.
01:22:05.000I do think people are wrong when they say, for example, to take your argument, how much a CEO should make.
01:22:13.000Just like I don't think you should be able to say $15 an hour for putting together fish fillets.
01:22:19.000You know, fucking Steve Jobs type character comes in and starts running a company and all of a sudden it goes blockbuster through the roof and becomes Apple.
01:22:28.000I don't think you should be able to say that guy doesn't deserve way more money than the average person because fucking of course he does.
01:22:34.000That guy is an obsessed genius who's making this company...
01:22:49.000The people that are making the least amount of money, they're the easiest to replace, and they're the ones that are worried about being treated fairly.
01:25:34.000No, but that's not the point I was making.
01:25:35.000The point I was making was you took an example.
01:25:37.000See, I was talking about the media, the entertainment industry, the backlash for someone who, I'm not even a huge supporter of Donald Trump.
01:25:42.000Neither one of us are, so I think we can be relatively objective.
01:27:33.000Because I remember I was listening to your podcast once and you said, it's only to the point when you make so much money that you no longer care about money.
01:27:56.000Like, the idea of, there's part of Buddhism that you should not be attached to items, you should not be attached to objects, and you, you know, I have a friend of mine who became a Buddhist monk and he wouldn't even have sex anymore.
01:28:09.000All carnal pleasure, all pleasure, all attachment to women, attachment to relationships, and the idea is that you don't want to be connected to that because what you are connected to owns you.
01:28:18.000And my take on that was, okay, but does it have to own you?
01:30:09.000This is the whole point of this whole thing.
01:30:11.000It's not a rational, normal position to take because most people are behind the eight ball all the time and always need to pay their bills.
01:30:46.000There's a company that takes them, and this is what I like, they take the inside of it and the engine and all that stuff out, and they put a 2012 Shelby GT500 inside of it.
01:30:58.000So you get, like, anti-lock brakes, you get airbags, you get everything.
01:31:51.000His business was customizing cars like that Porsche Spyder and doing high-end cars, people like George W. Bush, the nicest cars in the country, and he drove a 2003 Ford Taurus that I bought from him.
01:32:03.000It was just this surreal experience walking through these cars that, I mean, you don't even want to touch, right?
01:32:07.000You don't want to put a fingerprint on it.
01:32:09.000And this guy, I found out later, was a multi-millionaire, could afford any car that he wanted.
01:33:10.000If you take away the money, all you can think about is money because you need money.
01:33:14.000And my point was, like we were talking about earlier, is we don't want people in those positions determining exactly what I have to do with my money.
01:33:21.000Well, conversely, personally, as soon as you get money, you get this stress alleviation that's palpable.
01:33:29.000I mean, I'm sure it's happened to you, because you've been really successful over the last few years.
01:33:32.000When you, all of a sudden, don't worry about whether or not you could pay your gas bill this month, it's a different feeling.
01:33:39.000Until I was 25 years old, every day of my life was check to check.
01:33:44.000Every day, I was barely, I mean, fucking barely, you know, lying to the landlord.
01:34:15.000They wanted me on TV. Well, it was, you know, 1993 or something like that, so I got a development deal because I did an MTV half-hour comedy hour.
01:34:25.000I did one episode of the MTV half-hour comedy hour, and I got a development deal from Disney because of it.
01:34:30.000I got this little thing, and they sent me some money.
01:34:34.000And as soon as they sent me some money, it was like literally like someone just took a weight, like lifted it, like I was carrying around a weighted backpack my whole life.
01:35:30.000In that you know that someone like Meryl Streep, who gets up in front of the Golden Globes or whatever the fuck it was, and says crazy shit...
01:36:17.000But what I'm saying is that those people that are reacting to that, they may agree with it or they may feel like they have to agree with it.
01:36:29.000I grew up in a weird way where like my parents got, they broke up when I was really young and we moved around a lot and I didn't have roots.
01:36:38.000I didn't live in one place until Massachusetts when I was 13. I lived there for a long time.
01:36:43.000That was the first place I lived for a long time.
01:36:46.000And I got a chance to see the way people cling to ideas versus Actually believe things and I think it's very important to find out what you actually believe and it's almost impossible in Hollywood Yeah Because in Hollywood people have to audition for things right and I've been there man It's gross you go in this room and some person looks at you and they have a clipboard They're judging you and they have power and the same way that unions can have power and unions can control groups
01:37:16.000of people the same thing can happen for really self-righteous ideologues who happen to be holding that clipboard Well, then there's also the throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
01:37:25.000We're calling anybody who has a worldview an ideologue.
01:37:28.000And I do think that you're susceptible if you don't have a framework from which you look through the world.
01:37:33.000If you don't have a prism where you go, okay, hold on a second.
01:37:35.000But if you're a hardcore Democrat, do or die, without any exceptions whatsoever, you're an ideologue.
01:40:31.000Yeah, I mean, I think what we should do...
01:40:34.000See, I think a big part of the problem with human beings today is that it's not a fair hand of cards that we're all dealt, and some want to pretend that it is.
01:42:19.000When I had the opportunity to do something.
01:42:22.000Look, if you see someone and they're a good friend and you have a bounty of wealth, like let's say a good friend is hungry and you have all this food, you would have to be some kind of piece of shit to say, don't eat my food that I can never possibly all eat myself.
01:42:38.000You would want them to eat so you feel better.
01:42:40.000But my point is that's who you are, right?
01:42:42.000And I will say, Joe has been generous with me in the sense of actually allowing me on the show, supporting content, whether people get mad about it or not, and I appreciate that.
01:42:52.000But the point is the money didn't change.
01:42:55.000You're not a racist and you Well, I'm not an alcoholic, so it amplifies my character.
01:42:59.000No, no, but I'm saying money amplified your character, right?
01:43:01.000And so that's important for people to know because if you take that and you believe that, again, as a worldview, that money doesn't necessarily, it can, doesn't inherently change who you are, you'll find that you'll see just as many greedy, poor people as you will wealthy people.
01:43:15.000And that's important because when we're deciding on some arbitrary number and we just toss it to democracy, you can have just as many greedy portions of the masses as you would big bankers, and they can just vote in their own self-interest, and that's not right either.
01:43:27.000What do you mean by an arbitrary number?
01:43:29.000Well, I'm saying what should a CEO make?
01:43:33.000And if you understand that there can be people making less than minimum wage who, if they got the Joe Rogan, they made their break, you worked really hard, but all of a sudden they have millions of dollars, they're just as greedy as they are making $13 an hour?
01:43:43.000Again, it's looking at the human condition.
01:44:43.000Yeah, I had knee surgery recently, and so for me...
01:44:46.000I know, you went through the jiu-jitsu drawbacks, and then you got back in and blew your ACL out.
01:44:51.000Well, actually, I tore my LCL, and the ACL was slightly torn, but they were like, actually, the guy who does the surgery on the Red Wings, he came out, he goes, do you wrestle?
01:44:59.000He goes, okay, we rarely ever see an LCL that torn without a blown ACL. He's like, did you do anything where your ankle was going towards your face?
01:45:12.000I guess whatever it is, the tissue that holds that in place is gone.
01:45:16.000And they said it would be easier if you had a torn ACL to fix because we know what it is, like with a kneecap, take it out, do a replacement.
01:46:31.000They're in compression shorts, and the outside of them is like this rubberized thing, and the outside in the front is all like a really hard plastic.
01:46:41.000There's videos of them showing people taking full groin shots on purpose while they're wearing it.
01:46:46.000Yeah, that was their advertisements, like getting kicked in the balls.
01:46:47.000It really does protect you in an amazing way.
01:46:51.000It doesn't hurt like one of those steel tie cups.
01:46:54.000So these dudes who are fucking real sadists, they get these steel tie cups.
01:48:13.000It's the wrong way to think because when you're generous especially when you're generous to friends It's super important the people you actually love that you express that to those people when you do do that and It's good for you too.
01:48:27.000It just doesn't seem like it's good for you because people are so survival oriented.
01:48:31.000There's a great book called Who Really Cares?
01:48:35.000But he went out kind of seeing who actually donates and who's generous and kind of going by political persuasion, by geographical, by just the whole landscape.
01:48:55.000Especially ones from fucking Michigan.
01:48:57.000First off, stop mentioning my home state, especially with jihadis out there.
01:49:02.000You know, you've seen the Muslim videos.
01:49:04.000But there is the ism, and this is one thing that I do sincerely believe, and this is why I don't shy away from saying, listen, I'm a conservative.
01:49:12.000You said something that was pretty telling.
01:49:13.000You said, because I wanted to work hard, I never wanted to be beholden to someone again, right?
01:49:35.000Under an optimistic society, under people believing they can retire and do better, socialism, collectivism, can only operate by appealing to people's most selfish nature.
01:49:45.000By appealing to people saying, listen, the deck is stacked against you.
01:50:29.000And if you do do that, how do you do it?
01:50:31.000Do you do it in the form of generosity?
01:50:33.000Like, do you tip waitresses more than you should?
01:50:35.000Do you do it in the form of giving out to charities that you feel are very worthy and, you know, you've researched them and you know the people that are behind them?
01:50:43.000Do you do it in terms of, you know, social work you do?
01:50:47.000Do you do it in terms of putting out informational videos that help people figure out how they can advance their own lives?
01:50:54.000We all do, and I know you do too, certain charitable things amongst people we care about.
01:51:01.000When you address causes that you care about, you go out of your way in a non-selfish way to try to illuminate certain things or add to the coffers of certain organizations that are doing what you think are good things.
01:52:33.000So it actually removes the artistry, where a lot of people are like, this is the blend I can get in, I don't know, you know, Holland, Michigan.
01:54:10.000Yeah, he's the guy who, now he's in jail for giving to ISIS or something from the UK. So we had to create a whole new Skype address for that.
01:54:59.000Something went wrong somewhere along the line to get him to that place where he's arguing about something where he really doesn't know the facts.
01:55:22.000And they've gone down a dark road, and instead of saying, okay, I can't really talk about this because I don't have any facts at my disposal.
01:55:28.000Instead of doing that, he kept arguing it.
01:56:09.000Whereas someone like a Michael Woods Jr. who refused to come on the show, tried to leverage coming on this show to debate me, is dishonest.
01:56:16.000And someone who's afraid, or Michael Ian Black, who I recently got into it with, hopefully he'll come on the show.
01:56:40.000And then I get into the stats as to why rape culture doesn't exist in the United States and it does in the Middle East.
01:56:45.000So all Michael Ian Black tweets out is a portion of that video, a snippet that is not the statistics that I present, a snippet that's a sketch cutaway, just tweets out, holy shit.
01:56:55.000And this is the thing that a lot of people do.
01:56:57.000Right, but if someone sent that to him, if he got a clip, and he saw that clip.
01:57:02.000And this is the constant thing, right, that often people who disagree with me politically, who I identify as a left, go, Crowder doesn't think there's a rape culture.
01:57:10.000And so if they say it as though it's absurd enough, people go, yeah, that's silly.
01:57:43.000If you have to ask, then you don't know.
01:57:44.000And that's the position today that we see on cable news, that we see from in this election, but you particularly see from people trying to silence dissent.
01:57:52.000I love the idea of, as a white man, you shouldn't be able to talk about this certain thing.
01:57:57.000You should be able to talk about bugs on Jupiter, okay?
01:58:00.000It doesn't fucking matter what your sexual orientation is, what your gender is, what your race is.
01:58:08.000You should be able to talk about things.
01:58:10.000Just because you talk to somebody about something doesn't mean you're the premier expert of it.
01:58:28.000What that is, is you're saying things that you think people could possibly criticize you about, and you're cutting it off at the pass before their preposterous ideas get to you and your Twitter feed.
01:58:40.000Well, to me, I mean, like you said, you disagree with people on certain things, but you're not a coward ideologically.
01:58:45.000I'm not talking about physically, but you'll allow people on who you disagree with, and you'll change your mind.
02:01:01.000But I also think it's not necessarily true that the reason people can't smoke up is because Big Pharma is sitting somewhere, you know, Martin Shrekly going, oh, let's make potty illegal.
02:02:30.000If people are high a lot, and the same amount of fatalities exist, but the people that get checked once they get into these accidents happen to be high, it does not necessarily mean that marijuana caused those fatalities.
02:02:46.000It could be that you have an increased incidence of people doing marijuana and altercations that could not have been avoided.
02:03:25.000Well, listen, scientific studies have proven that it shrinks tumors, that it helps people with cancer, much like turmeric, much like any things that reduce inflammation, including CBD oil.
02:05:08.000Bring up the study that we wrote about on our website.
02:05:09.000Look, I don't care about your website, you fuck.
02:05:12.000Since marijuana legalization highway fatalities in Colorado are at near historical...
02:05:19.000Since you call me a fucking puss and you do this with the crazy lady in a comedy club, you think if you scream enough that it makes a point.
02:06:41.000And meanwhile, you're over here in America, fucking just as much of an immigrant as some dude who sneaks over the wall that Trump just built.
02:06:50.000I was born in Detroit, so that remains to be seen.
02:06:56.000Have you seen that thing where there's a guy who is making an urban farm in Detroit?
02:07:03.000Oh, that's very common in Detroit now.
02:07:04.000Well, he's got the largest urban farm, and he's bought up all this land, and as he's bought up all this land, he's taking these dilapidated houses, they tear them down, he's building this farm, really cheap land, and people are getting pissed off at him.
02:07:18.000They're getting pissed off because this one guy now buys all this land.
02:07:23.000And there's this weird thing that's going on where people somehow or another are mad at this guy who's trying to do something positive.
02:07:29.000If I'm not mistaken on that story, I could be wrong, but urban farming was a real...
02:07:33.000We wrote about that when we did this report in Detroit.
02:07:35.000I was telling, actually, Jamie about it beforehand.
02:07:36.000We did a real-time ride-along because people said we selectively edited the worst parts of Detroit.
02:07:41.000So I went back with my producer, Not Gay Jared.
02:07:43.000We said, okay, we're going to start dead center downtown Detroit where all the hipsters drink their coffee and talk about how it's being revived.
02:07:48.000We will drive out in three different directions.
02:07:50.000We put a GoPro on top of the car, GoPro in the car, a mileage tab, and a timer clock.
02:07:56.000And it never took more than about, I think,.9 miles out of the city to certain death.
02:08:10.000And if I'm not mistaken with that story...
02:08:13.000Everyone was doing urban farming, but there were some problems with the soil.
02:08:16.000And so there was a guy who probably found out he could make money if he improved the soil, and he got it down to a system that was more efficient.
02:08:21.000And people didn't like that aspect of it, because now it's the big urban farmer, right?
02:08:25.000Well, it's a wealthy guy who bought up a lot of land.
02:08:29.000And he's a white guy, and he bought it up in this, you know, really urban area.
02:08:33.000And, you know, the buildings were all fucked up, and somehow or another people felt like somebody was encroaching in their neighborhood that they had watched deteriorate.
02:09:05.000And whether it's change because of nature, like the fucking shoreline changes, the ocean rises, tsunamis hit the coast, earthquakes change the landscape, volcanoes.
02:09:16.000Whether it's that kind of change or whether it's economic change or whether it's technological change, there's going to be change.
02:09:22.000And if you're trying to stop change, you're on the wrong side of history.
02:09:30.000I think, you know, my view is you should allow people to be the change they seek, as Barack Obama put it, and shouldn't try to force change.
02:09:38.000But if you live in a shit neighborhood and some dude wants to break down the terrible houses and build a farm, that's not necessarily a bad idea.
02:09:53.000And we got fact-checked on it because we did a video on this where we said, you know, packs of...
02:09:57.000And then I made a joke where I said, apparently there have been grizzly bear sightings, so hopefully this will be our next National Geographic special.
02:10:03.000Well, there's been black bear sightings.
02:11:10.000If an old male or a predatory male that has killed another human being and recognizes human beings as food, that has happened before, where hikers have disappeared.
02:11:21.000And hikers disappear all the time to the tune of hundreds of people every year just vanish.
02:11:30.000I read that actually polar bears will stalk people.
02:11:33.000See, polar bears are completely predatory, which means they don't eat any vegetation.
02:11:38.000You can get lucky with grizzly bears, where grizzly bears can have a fucking field of blueberries, and they don't want to have anything to do with you.
02:11:46.000Because blueberries are delicious, they don't run, and they can just sit there and eat, and they don't have any hunger pangs.
02:11:52.000How many blueberries would it take to feed a grizzly bear?
02:11:54.000Well, you know, you're talking about Alaska, like a mountainside.
02:11:57.000Like in the spring, or in the fall rather, like before they go into hibernation, that's what they primarily eat because all that sugar just gets like straight into the fat, into their bodies, and they store it up big thick fat layers.
02:12:57.000And all these people were furious and they're going, no, no, we're doing this so that the bears don't become dependent on humans for food.
02:13:02.000If you euthanize one bear, that prevents the rest of them, they no longer can forage, can hunt for themselves because they realize these people are going to throw us a sandwich.
02:13:10.000And that's a great example of just people not knowing, not being informed enough on an issue and instead deciding to be outraged.
02:13:17.000Like, I don't know about grizzly bears.
02:13:19.000I assume the Yellowstone Rangers kind of have their crap together on it.
02:13:22.000Well, that's also like PETA people that don't want to admit that PETA kills Thousands of cats and dogs every year and their heads a diabetic who uses insulin which came to you courtesy of animal testing Yeah, but she feels like that's okay because she's a vegan She's skinny fat,
02:13:37.000but there's a great podcast that's available right now the most recent meat-eater podcast with Steve Ranella where he talks to a bear biologist Who discusses the history of Yellowstone.
02:13:49.000At one point in time, the dumps where people in restaurants used to dump all their food was places where people would go to watch bears.
02:15:16.000So if you have some kid and he pulls out a squirt gun, now he's not aggressive, he's just a bark if he doesn't like something.
02:15:22.000And people, I don't know if it was PETA, some animal person got really mad.
02:15:25.000Well, there's so many dogs that need homes.
02:15:27.000I'm going, listen, I've rescued a dog.
02:15:28.000I think if you know what you're handling, you should, if you're able.
02:15:32.000But if you have kids who don't have a lot of dog training and you don't know where this dog's come from, I place kids higher on the totem pole than dogs.
02:16:05.000Ranella, the same guy who has the podcast I was talking about, told me a story of a guy who went on his very first hunt, and while he was in his tent, a 500-pound predatory grizzly bear attacked him.
02:16:17.000His friend shot the bear and hit him in the wrist.
02:16:20.000The bear takes off out of the tent, goes to another dude's tent, and they shoot it in that tent to kill it.
02:16:26.000So everybody's covered in blood and hair.
02:21:32.000And because I always watch those movies like The Revenant, and I go, could you imagine how much it smelled or imagine what their teeth were like?
02:21:38.000But this guy claimed he went down to like, you know, third world sort of African nations where they didn't brush their teeth, but they had perfect smiles.
02:21:46.000And he claims it was because I don't know if it's true at all.
02:21:50.000But he says it was because they ate a lot of organ meats.
02:21:52.000They were getting a lot of vitamin K, natural vitamin D, as opposed to kind of the sugary lifestyle with refined carbohydrates in the new world.
02:22:01.000And that's a big part of like this whole kind of high saturated fat, organs, bone broths.
02:22:08.000It's called like Westin something Price Foundation.
02:22:11.000But I remember there were these pictures side by side of people in the New World who were on largely grain fed diets.
02:22:15.000And these people were basically third world sort of tribesmen, but they had these beautiful white teeth.
02:22:19.000That makes sense in some ways that people that live natural lives with natural foods without anything processed would be healthier.
02:22:34.000We know that kids who eat a lot of sugar and don't brush their teeth, and I think a lot of that is also that stuff getting caught in your gums and your teeth, and it's just not good.
02:23:23.000Well, trans fats are now, they're illegal, but you have, there's a grace period until 2018, I believe, or maybe 19, where companies are allowed to still use that stuff in their potato chips or whatever the fuck they sell, up until then,
02:24:02.000But that was a huge, powerful lobbying group where the vegetarians, you know, the San Francisco kind of hippie era, that's why trans fats became ubiquitous.
02:24:09.000Well, it was also a byproduct of the sugar industry bribing scientists to lie about the beneficial qualities of their sugar.
02:24:19.000They just pretended that sugar's fine.
02:24:28.000And these people went out and bought margarine because it terrified of saturated fat because the sugar companies had bribed some scientists.
02:24:34.000We had that when we were kids, country croc margarine.
02:24:48.000To literally lie to everybody about the...
02:24:53.000They just made up a bunch of shit about saturated fat, and they just diminished all the negative effects of sugar, and people just started drinking that milk from Captain Crunch.
02:25:18.000And in Canada, we had a whole different...
02:25:21.000I didn't realize until I moved to the States.
02:25:22.000Corn pops in Canada are actually like spherical Captain Crunch.
02:25:26.000They're not at all like corn pops in the States.
02:25:28.000There are a lot of little differences because it's such a silly country where you'll be raised there and you'll come here and be like, wait, Oreos aren't the same?
02:27:26.000We were sitting there as this kid, he was hanging with Mr. Cooper, and so as a kid, you're like, well, we watched that show on TGIF, we have to get Reese's Peanut Butter Cuff cereal.
02:29:09.000But I was there for like the first week.
02:29:11.000No, I was there for like the first week they brought it back.
02:29:13.000And so it's him and Dr. Drew sitting there doing their shtick at a table, and then I'm literally at the end of the table with nothing to say.
02:29:25.000A little bit, but it just, you know, Adam Carolla does his podcast like this with an interview, and that was just, it was really weird, and I think what happened was they didn't realize he wasn't doing the show that day, and they brought me, they were very nice.
02:29:35.000Dr. Drew and Adam was gracious afterward, but it was clear like it's a two-guy show taking phone calls.
02:29:56.000He had his radio show that was a big hit radio show, and then the station went under in L.A., and I think he just decided to do the same format and just do that same format online.
02:30:15.000And what we did was, well, no one really cares about these commercial breaks nationally, so we just did a bunch of sketches and fake commercials.
02:30:21.000And that's what created all these characters that people have created these Twitter profiles for because we just said, well, you know, so we're not going to run an ad for a local car dealership.
02:31:58.000He got outed from the church because I think his pregnant wife was at a Detroit Lions game, and there was a guy with a bullhorn behind her, right up against her ear.
02:32:07.000And this guy was a pat, but a really good guy, regardless of someone's religious affiliation, but a good guy.
02:32:13.000And he's like, hey, man, could you stop?
02:32:15.000My wife's here, you know, whenever she was either pregnant or something.
02:32:17.000And the guy just looked at him and went, And kept doing it right next to his wife's ear, like got right up on her ear.
02:32:23.000And he ended up kicking the guy's ass, getting into a fight with him because the guy was getting up on their space and getting...
02:35:06.000And I think Amy Schumer's a 30-something-year-old girl who bitches at people on Twitter now and is unmarried and miserable, and unmarried to a woman I'm pretty happy with.
02:35:57.000How are you paying your bills at stand-up comedy when you were 22 years old?
02:36:00.000Yeah, so I would do stand-up, and I had some pretty relatively successful acting gigs, did some films, commercials, some TV. At that point, I was a Fox News contributor, which paid me a retainer.
02:36:11.000I did freelance writing, where they would pay by the word.
02:36:13.000So you were doing stand-up on a regular basis?
02:38:37.000I looked at an apartment in the East Village, because they'd have like 19 Polish family members per apartment, and the toilet was right in the middle of the kitchen.
02:40:02.000And he told me that when people from Asia who are used to that environment as the norm come over to the United States, sometimes they actually stand on the toilet seat and shit that way.
02:40:14.000But the toilet seat is not designed for the aim to be accurate.
02:40:17.000If you're sitting on the toilet seat, you'd be crapping on the water tank.
02:40:43.000Yeah, I think that Donald Trump has been a lightning rod.
02:40:45.000I would disagree with him on some policy issues, for sure.
02:40:48.000But I think that because everyone has called him a Nazi and a racist and a sexist and a transphobe, that it's removed those arguments from the table.
02:40:58.000Because people are going, yeah, but you said it about John McCain and Mitt Romney.
02:41:01.000Everyone you disagree with is a racist.
02:41:03.000I think that card's been played too much, and because of Donald Trump, it's been overplayed.
02:41:07.000And I think now, we see with our channel, granted it's not as big as the outreach you guys have, but it's grown pretty substantially, and a lot of our audience are self-professed liberals going, you know what?
02:42:49.000I don't know the whole story with the real Rick Ross.
02:42:51.000Dude, the real Rick Ross, not the rapper, but the real Rick Ross, who's been on my podcast twice, was a drug dealer in South Central, who they put away for a life due to the three strikes rule, but didn't know how to read.
02:43:04.000Okay, went to jail, was a drug dealer, made millions of dollars selling coke, okay?
02:43:09.000Did not have any idea who was bringing him the coke, how he was getting it, where it was coming from.
02:43:14.000The profits that they were making was literally paying for Oliver North to arm the Contras versus the Sandinistas.
02:43:23.000I mean, it was literally, it was all proven in court.
02:43:26.000I mean, this is what Michael Rupert stood in front of I forget what the gathering was, but on television, on C-SPAN, Michael Rupert, who was a narcotics officer for the Los Angeles Police Department,
02:43:41.000who has also been on my podcast before he committed suicide, he was the guy that was the focus of that movie Collapse.
02:43:48.000Remember that movie Collapse where he's talking about...
02:43:50.000I'm trying to remember who was in that.
02:43:51.000It was just him smoking cigarettes, sitting there talking about what he knew about the economy, what he knew about all these different things that were problematic in our society and how there's only a certain amount of time before it's going to collapse.
02:44:03.000It was kind of a crazy doom and gloom documentary.
02:44:07.000He had caught CIA agents, rogue, cowboy CIA agents, in the middle of selling drugs in South Central Los Angeles, reported it, and was in trouble because of that, and decided to go public with it.
02:44:23.000And they were selling these drugs, they were making shitloads of money, and they were transferring the money to arm these rebels.
02:44:29.000Well, Rick Ross was in the middle of that and didn't know he was in the middle of that.
02:44:34.000He was literally selling drugs and funneling this whole thing, went to jail as an illiterate person who literally couldn't read, learned how to read in jail, became a lawyer in jail, learned law, figured out that But you can't charge him for the three strikes rule if it's one thing.
02:44:52.000If you're charging him with a bunch of counts under one incident, the three strikes law doesn't apply, and that's how they got him in jail, so now he's out.
02:44:59.000Like, all of this came because of that.
02:45:02.000Well, I knew about Oliver North in the Contra thing.
02:45:04.000I didn't know about Rick Ross, specifically.
02:45:06.000Well, there's been proof that some elements of our government have sold drugs to impoverished neighborhoods in order to fund black ops.
02:45:17.000And this is one of the things that Robert Anton Wilson was talking about when he was talking about the Reagan administration.
02:45:21.000He became the intellectual president because people were so frustrated by how fucking crazy and chaotic and movie-like things had become that they had decided to arm themselves with information.
02:45:35.000I wonder if a big part of it, too, is the backlash with Ronald Reagan because everyone said, again, he had no chance, he was a moron, and he won in a landslide where people go, all right, screw you, we're going to consider him an intellectual.
02:46:04.000But I think people might have just been like, you know what, you called him a moron for so long and everyone who voted him a moron that then...
02:46:09.000Well, they didn't really call Reagan a moron.
02:46:23.000Dick Cheney can't be a moron, so he's evil.
02:46:25.000I think you're confusing the narrative a little bit because Reagan might have been simplistic, but he was a wonderful speaker.
02:46:31.000He gave really articulate, well-thought-out speeches that spoke to Americans, again, longing for this nostalgia of a time where the Norman Rockwell painting made sense.
02:47:06.000Yeah, but the media treated him like a real moron.
02:47:08.000If you go back and watch that, and right before his landslide election win, if you look at the electoral map, sort of the polls and the predictions, they give him no chance of winning.
02:47:16.000We already proved you're full of shit about Colorado and traffic deaths.
02:47:21.000Should we go and fuck you up with this, too?
02:48:09.000So then the article links to a couple, like this for instance, is one that says it has deadliest year of traffic fatality since 2008. This article doesn't say anything about marijuana, not one thing, doesn't mention weed at once.
02:48:22.000It does say that it could be attributed to lower gas prices, people driving more, more people in the state, et cetera, et cetera.
02:48:33.000Because you have someone here at the ready, and what you do is, instead of bringing up information, this is what happens with Christopher Titus, right?
02:48:39.000You don't have information that you bring up.
02:48:41.000You have another guy look up a source that you specifically want him to find.
02:50:55.000No, I'm not incorrect in that instance that traffic fatalities have increased in areas where pot have increased.
02:50:59.000We did the same study in Michigan where pot was legalized and people were actually selling more marijuana under Okay, that doesn't have anything to do with traffic fatalities.
02:51:07.000It doesn't have anything to do with traffic fatalities unless you can prove there's more traffic fatalities in underage kids since marijuana has been legal.
02:51:27.000Okay, so it says the percentage of drivers involved in fatal crashes who recently used marijuana more than doubled from 8 to 17% from 2013 to 2014. One in six drivers involved in fatal crashes from 2014 had recently used marijuana,
02:51:44.000which is the most recent data available.
02:51:47.000Now, do you understand that causation does not equal correlation?
02:51:50.000The significant increase in fatal crashes involving marijuana is alarming.
02:52:57.000Before you do that, though, test how many of the marijuana-related fatalities also involved alcohol, because it's a massively significant percentage.
02:55:58.000I said, I don't like the dishonesty where people just say, it cures cancer, it'll end the war on drugs, it's completely harmless, and I have some arguments that it's not harmless?
02:56:45.000Okay, what do you believe marijuana does, for example?
02:56:47.000Well, no, I'm not going to get baited into this because you're trying to force me to say that I don't think pot cures cancer and there's a big pharma.
02:57:39.000You've gotten into this pot issue because of an issue where you think there's an argument, and it's the one area that you're super, super informed into.
02:58:45.000That medical marijuana laws may contribute to decreasing traffic fatalities.
02:58:49.000One study published in the Journal of Law and Economics in 2013 reviewed traffic fatalities in the 19 states that had passed medical marijuana laws by 2010 and found that legalization is associated with an 8 to 11 percent decrease in traffic fatalities for the year.
02:59:06.000After the laws took effect, the researchers from the University of Colorado Denver and elsewhere also found the decrease is more significant for alcohol-related fatalities at 13.2%.
03:00:52.000Joe, here's the thing, and I still mean the complimentary things I said, but you can't bring people on and call them pussy and dumb fuck and bias and then continue going back to an issue with someone who agrees with you entirely and act as though,
03:04:06.000Well, for example, we had a woman on the show, a psychiatrist, who basically said, she said, people who are adult, healthy, smoke pot, probably not a problem.
03:04:14.000She said, it is a problem for the developing brain, people who are under the age of 25. And she explained as to why.
03:05:09.000The point being, I think you agree and I agree that as long as it doesn't hurt other people any more than anything else, like sugar hurts other people.
03:05:17.000Look, if you want to make an argument for high insurance rates and you want to look at the overall causes of disease in this country and why insurance and health insurance cost so much, you would almost immediately go towards simple sugar.
03:06:08.000It is when someone comes into something where they know they disagree and two other people with the same opinion are going to do a team up.
03:06:27.000I don't think you've ever actually gotten to a place without someone who can bring up sources for you.
03:06:31.000I don't think you've gotten into an argument or done anything with a debate team where people would actually hold you accountable to the arguments that you make.
03:06:38.000Why are you saying you don't think that I have if you don't know what conversations I've had?
03:08:33.000It's bullying because there are two people who hold one opinion, ask me on something that I don't care about, follow up three, four questions to go into an area where you two are very specifically passionate, and I said, I don't want to talk about it.
03:08:44.000You don't want to talk about it because you're wrong.
03:08:46.000No, I don't want to talk about it because I don't care.
03:08:48.000If states want to legalize it, that's fine.
03:08:50.000But it is a valid issue when people of Colorado are looking at this now and there are people in Colorado who might vote differently on the marijuana issue because of how it's perceived or because of the information at hand.
03:08:59.000And I believe that people in Colorado should be able to vote.
03:10:22.000That's why I wanted to have you on here.
03:10:23.000I thought we were gonna have some fun.
03:10:25.000We were having fun, and then toward the end of the conversation, you asked me what issue do you not care about.
03:10:30.000I don't really care about the pot issue, which I thought I cared about when I was 21. You said you wouldn't defend issues from when you were seven years ago, right?
03:10:37.000When I was 21, I was probably a lot harsher on pot than I am today.
03:10:46.000I don't really care much anymore about it.
03:10:47.000I think states should be able to do what they want to do.
03:10:49.000Then three, four, five follow-up questions, so we could get to a point into this debate where the show has now gone on two, three hours long, and I've missed my flight.
03:10:57.000Well, what you were trying to say was that people that are pro-marijuana ignore the negative consequences of marijuana, and I asked you what those were, and you said traffic fatalities.
03:11:36.000It's an interesting argument because it shows what happens when people not necessarily disagree, but getting into a position where one person wants to have the upper hand.
03:12:48.000Okay, if Christopher Titus comes on the show, if Sally Cohn comes on the show, if you come on the show and you say, I want to talk about pot in the show.
03:12:54.000If you say that and you say, I disagree with you.
03:14:38.000And some of those consequences can be damage to the developing brain when they're 25. We had a psychiatrist on talk about it, and people called her a dumb bitch who, you know, weed cures cancer.
03:15:13.000And I think that the people who have tried to make you think, you know, reefer madness and wacky tobacco, I think that's overblown.
03:15:20.000But I also think there are some issues that people who simply want to justify it, sometimes a habit, which could be negative to some people, not all, Overlook completely one side of the issue and there is an entire side of the medical community who disagrees with you.
03:15:33.000And I don't know that I agree with them or disagree with them yet.
03:16:03.000You should be 16 years old to drive a car.
03:16:04.000You're not telling kids to go and smoke up.
03:16:06.000But I think a lot of people who are listening, you have many young listeners, who are in that developmental state, certainly under the age of 25, who only hear the positive virtues extolled of marijuana.
03:16:17.000Sometimes they're not entirely honest.
03:16:19.000Sometimes they're not entirely accurate, I should say.
03:16:22.000I don't think that's necessarily a good thing.
03:16:58.000And I know, and you know, and I'm sure we all know someone who did get completely overindulgent in marijuana and became one of those wake-and-bake people that ruined their life.
03:17:08.000And I think people can do that with almost any substance, anything that's psychoactive at least.
03:17:13.000I think people do that with cigarettes where they need that fucking cigarette more than they need anything.
03:17:17.000I think a lot of AA people do that with cigarettes and alcohol.
03:17:21.000They replace their weird addiction to alcohol to something that's not as bad for them.
03:17:26.000I think there's a lot of things for the developing mind, particularly for the developing mind.
03:17:31.000That we have available to us all the time that are really dangerous.
03:17:35.000You know, I had Henry Rollins on here.
03:17:37.000He was talking about when he was a little kid, he was like five year old, they put him on Ritalin.
03:18:03.000I think you can calculate those consequences.
03:18:05.000Well, I think you can, but I mean you would have to fuck up a lot of kids in order to really prove the statistical viability of what damage is being done to kids and how much would cause the damage.
03:18:58.000Well, whatever the most common date rape drug, I don't know if it's actually Rufalin or whatever it's called, but most commonly used or the most effective date rape drug.
03:19:06.000I know what you're thinking about, but I can't, it's not coming to me.
03:19:10.000I know the drug, but it's a weird one where it helps bodybuilders sleep.
03:22:46.000There's like a ginger one, and one of them, the problem is I don't remember which one.
03:22:50.000So it's rolling the dice every time you have it.
03:22:52.000See, some people, I just tell them about kombucha, about the positive benefits of probiotics, and like, you should try it, and you should eat kimchi, and you should eat sauerkraut.
03:23:45.000Kombucha is not really a fungus, but it's somehow or another like a cousin of a fungus, and people think it's a fungus, but it's a life form.
03:23:53.000And when you get it, like I had it at one point in time, it was like the size of a laptop, and I had this like big salad bowl, and I was growing kombucha in my refrigerator in a salad bowl, and the whole top of the salad bowl was this rubbery sort of life form.
03:24:11.000And then what I would do is I would drain it into a pitcher, and I would put the pitcher into the refrigerator, and then I would put more of the sugar water, and I forget what all the ingredients were, but I know sugar was a part of it.
03:24:23.000Because the culture had to eat sugar in order to stay alive, and then it would ferment, and the fermentation was a part of it, and then you would, you know, get, like, some sort of probiotic benefit from it.
03:24:37.000Because kefir, you just pour the milk and the lactose is the sugar, and that's it, and it's done.
03:24:41.000What's actually good about it, too, if you read the studies on it, like two tablespoons of kefir, like actual homemade kefir, is tens of billions, you know, of microorganisms.
03:24:53.000And it's higher in protein, because if you do the math, so you can still, basically at that point, you're left without the lactose, so you're left with really just the fat and the protein.
03:25:01.000And all the B vitamins, so it's like, I read an article once, I cannot corroborate this, but they said that goat's milk, whole goat's milk kefir, if you could only have one food, would be the most complete food you could have.
03:25:27.000They said, if you could only have one, and then there was an article that said, if you could only have two, it'd be like that and egg yolks.
03:25:33.000Have you ever fucked with some of those pharmaceutical-grade probiotics?
03:25:39.000Rhonda Patrick was talking about those once on the podcast.
03:25:41.000She was talking about some stuff you have to refrigerate it, you buy it as super potent.
03:25:56.000And I had a problem one time where I just, I was so stressed.
03:26:00.000You know, I have all these nerve endings where my stomach just, I felt like I thought, oh no, ulcerative colitis was getting tested for it.
03:26:49.000It has this one effect on some people, particularly if you take too much of it, or if your life is getting away from you, you know, if it's like slipping away from you, and then you start waking bacon, and then you just don't ever deal with all your issues, so they compound and fucking whirlwind.
03:27:13.000So it's mainly used in psychiatry now, but they're saying it's going to have all kinds of future with determining cancer and things like that.
03:27:19.000And they actually use it to look for depression, bipolar, ADHD, and they can look at your genes.
03:27:24.000Now, I'm not a doctor, so I'm going to butcher this.
03:27:43.000Well, again, because I don't choose a pretty much new, when I tuned into the OC when I was a kid and I was looking at Misha Barton and Rachel Bilson and the people who wanted to screw Adam Brody, I think that's when you realize you're gay.
03:28:21.000And with me, that's the case with dopamine.
03:28:22.000So like a lot of people who would maybe typically be addicts, Or people with ADHD or people who, for me, I didn't realize this until I was a lot older.
03:28:30.000Look, I'm going to totally expose myself as vulnerable to all the angry potheads after the argument.
03:28:35.000I didn't realize until I was older, I didn't actually feel the same feelings of joy or pleasure that other people do.
03:28:56.000I never really felt that reward center in the brain.
03:28:59.000And they did this gene site testing and they found that basically they have the worst genetic pattern.
03:29:03.000It's not entirely accurate, but it's actually increased the efficacy of antidepressants from like a 1 in 2 to like a 2 in 3. Something like that.
03:29:13.000Because they can look and look at your genetics more effectively.
03:29:17.000I'm sorry to interrupt, but have you taken antidepressants?
03:31:22.000And I will say that I won't get into exactly what it is that I've done or what medications I've taken, but it was certainly life-changing as far as I didn't know what normal people felt like.
03:32:12.000And then when, you know, they started doing actual, like, you know, IQ testing and stuff, and we found, like, well, listen, medication doesn't make you smarter.
03:32:20.000See, I have my own theories about this whole thing that they do when they take kids and they make them all sit in the same school, in the same class, and listen to the same subject.
03:32:31.000I don't think there's anything in life that mirrors that.
03:32:34.000And I think experiences in life vary radically.
03:32:37.000And I think that if you looked at nature and the great spectrum of survivors and, you know, winners and losers and how genes get expressed and how evolution takes place in nature.
03:32:48.000There's all sorts of different kinds of animals.
03:32:52.000Why wouldn't we assume there's all sorts of different kinds of people?
03:32:54.000Whenever you force all people to sit down and do the same thing, you're going to have aberrations.
03:32:59.000You're going to have people that don't...
03:33:00.000Obviously, you've found something with your show and with public speaking that you excel at.
03:33:06.000You've found this thing, this ranting thing that you could do where you could just go on 100 words a second about all these different things.
03:34:39.000And I think that's a big reason, not because someone was bullied because someone used the word fag.
03:34:43.000I think you probably have a lot of incidents of depression in young boys, in particular, because you're putting them in an atmosphere where they can't possibly succeed.
03:34:50.000Yeah, well, I think both are problematic, but I think the square peg round hole issue has been there for the beginning of school in the first place.
03:34:57.000I mean, I don't mean to be like a proponent of homeschooling, but really...
03:35:03.000I mean, once you have kids, I think you kind of realize that, god damn, every kid out of the box is a totally different thing.
03:36:24.000They're probably the most well-adjusted kids I've ever seen.
03:36:27.000And then I have seen the weird, creepy, homeschooled kids where you do your class on your iPad and then afterwards you get to watch PewDiePie, you know, play video games or whatever it is.
03:36:36.000So it really does come down to the parents.
03:36:38.000But I do think that a parent who knows how to homeschool a kid...
03:36:41.000I think that's going to be, especially if the mom is at home with the kids, you know, I think that's a huge leg up for them.
03:36:46.000Well, there's obviously so many variables as far as the intellect of the parents and what their thought process is behind homeschooling their kid and what their experience level is and how much thought they put into it and where they're coming from emotionally, psychologically, intellectually.
03:37:26.000And then they got to a point, they were like, look, what are we doing here?
03:37:29.000Like, we're trying to, you know, the kids got older into their, like, pre-teens and then their teens.
03:37:34.000And then they came to this conclusion, like, what they're coming back from high school with and from middle school with is not what I want them to be exposed with.
03:38:06.000Yeah, think of the enclaves of crazy places where these social justice warriors go and often they go into teaching because it's their way to get power of these little kids Here's the thing that was really we wrote about that on the website and what I wrote about that was that interview.
03:38:19.000Yeah, whatever about that was This is a horrible interview because she's okay with violence in Berkeley But what really disturbs me is Is every other professor out there who isn't a national story.
03:38:30.000Let's say she didn't get caught on camera hitting a guy with a stick, right?
03:38:33.000But some kid stands up who's a conservative in middle school.
03:38:36.000I was that way where I would argue with a teacher and just says, well, I think you're wrong.
03:38:40.000And she kicks that kid out of class and just says that kid's being disruptive.
03:38:45.000Let's say that teacher is the principal, gets the kid expelled from school.
03:38:49.000These people have these little enclaves of power, these positions of authority, and parents kind of have to trust the teacher.
03:39:02.000Complain to my parents and talk about how disrespectful I was and what a horrible person I was because I think in the ninth grade I actually argued.
03:39:10.000I was like, I actually don't think we should give the land back to the Native Americans when she was teaching that.
03:39:29.000I said, the fact that you're wearing Levi's, and because you have a sore throat, you're speaking through an electronic speaker when you just drove here in a Toyota Yaris, and you're in an electrically-powered school in a union tells me you're glad that we settled here.
03:41:42.000And he talks about this, like Michael Medved and Dennis Prager have talked about this, but I was surprised as to how cogent Chael's arguments were.
03:42:04.000He wrote about it in a way, I'm butchering it, but he said, like, when we came, for example, like, let's talk about the Mayans.
03:42:09.000He goes, they had literally pyramids or Aztec, whatever, they had buildings entirely full of gold.
03:42:15.000He goes, now, how do you think they procured said gold?
03:42:18.000Do you think that they maybe went to other tribes or other members and said, you are going to bring us this gold or be, die.
03:42:26.000And so what happened was thousands upon thousands, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, said when the conquistadors came, who would never have had enough to take over that area of the world, said, we're going to take our chances with the red guys with the beards and the metal helmets because they've been treated so poorly for so long.
03:42:42.000And the same thing if you look at the Algonquins and the Iroquois and Quebec, those were the tribes that we had and the kind of the packs that they would have.
03:43:10.000That's why all of a sudden these new people who came in with sticks that go boom had thousands of Native Americans at their disposal who were willing to die with them because they were tired of being treated that way.
03:43:22.000And I made some argument to maybe that effect, got in trouble, got sent home.
03:43:26.000Well, it's a complicated issue that spans hundreds of years, but there was certainly intertribal warfare and the word that the Sioux used.
03:44:39.000Well, that's the thing that people, a lot of people who don't understand where diseases come from, a giant percentage of them come from our livestock.
03:44:46.000That's why you have swine flu and avian viruses and all these different things.
03:45:16.000I remember I got so much flack from conservatives, too, because I was like, listen, I don't like Barack Obama as a president, but you can't blame Ebola on the guy.
03:45:28.000I know, you know, and that's one of those things where I know I'm seen as an ideologue, but it seems like we get so much flack for criticizing Donald Trump, for example, on some trade policies.
03:46:58.000I did a video on this, and here's what's so funny.
03:47:01.000If I'm not mistaken, Google's definition brings up fascism and mentions right-wing.
03:47:05.000But if you bring up communism or socialism, maybe it's authoritarianism, something that's very clearly left-wing, they don't actually mention left-wing.
03:47:44.000When you talk about extreme left-wing ideologues, you are talking about authoritarians, and you're talking about totalitarians, and you're also talking about people that would advocate violence.
03:47:57.000Against anyone who does not fit their mold of how a person should think or behave.
03:48:04.000And what they do is they call them a fascist or they're calling them a Nazi.
03:48:07.000And that lets them alleviate themselves of any guilt of being a violent person against these people.
03:48:51.000I had Jordan Peterson on the podcast, and he really talked about how...
03:48:56.000It's like progressives who are sensitive and kind people gravitate towards Marxism in a lot of ways because the initial draw seems appealing, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid for according to their abilities and needs.
03:49:16.000So here's the point, and I wrote about this.
03:50:00.000Do you think there's a problem with also defining things in terms of a word like Marxism or like communism?
03:50:06.000Let's just talk about what are you trying to do?
03:50:08.000What are you actually trying to appeal to when you're saying that you can't have someone speak at your university if they say things that you don't agree with?
03:50:17.000Like, do you remember this story about the University of Toronto?
03:50:51.000I mean, that was this crazy moment in time where this guy had scheduled an appearance to speak about his book, and someone had misrepresented his book, decided what his book was actually all about,
03:51:06.000and decided that they were going to have a campaign to make sure this guy couldn't talk.
03:51:10.000So people would show up, and they would try to just go to listen to this guy talk, and women were screaming in their face, you fucking rapist, you piece of shit!
03:51:44.000And when I told her that, she couldn't...
03:51:45.000And then actually someone went on the news and said, well, what Ann Coulter needs to understand is that America has this idea of free speech and rugged individualism and all speech is protected.
03:51:57.000They trotted out where she basically said freedom of speech does not exist in Canada.
03:52:01.000And so you can read the YouTube comments where every time I see freedom of speech doesn't exist in Canada, thousands of people, that's bullshit because they think they get to type in an internet message board.
03:52:09.000But you can be jailed in Canada for saying something wrong.
03:53:22.000Because I do think you do, at a certain point, and I think a lot of people are readily acknowledging now, that, those stories that you're talking about, the red-haired girl, the Melissa Glick, this Asian lady, you really can't find that today on the right.
03:54:45.000But he just recognizes the intolerance today of the progressive left.
03:54:49.000Well, there's definitely an issue when you have that woman, the Melissa Glick lady, who was yelling at that kid who was just a photographer.
03:55:23.000Well, she was intolerant in that she was very adamant about getting her way, and she did not consider whether or not they were in a public place, and this kid had the right to take those photographs.
03:55:31.000And again, like you said, this is an Asian kid.
03:55:33.000I mean, this is not like some fucking white jock with a crew cut like from, you know, Back to the Future where you can say, oh, it's fucking Biff.