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00:00:47.000Yeah, this is for my daily example of why I need to be patient.
00:00:51.000I had an iPhone 6 Plus, the biggest storage.
00:00:54.000I was really happy with it, and I was like, man, I need to get that iPhone 7. And the only one they had was the small one with the smallest storage, and it's a piece of garbage.
00:01:43.000When you're looking at websites in particular, where you don't have to expand the screen to get the entire thing, you don't have to go back and forth to get the entire article.
00:01:51.000And there's little tricks that people don't know, where it's like you double tap, not push in, but double tap, and all that shit that's on the top of the screen, it comes down for you.
00:01:59.000They just use it for people with tiny hands.
00:03:55.000I think the moment I had my first kid, I was like, okay, this is my realization that at any point I could have the most damaging pain in the world.
00:04:04.000So I get that I don't need to be depressed and reminded of that at every moment, because that's what I'm constantly thinking about.
00:04:09.000When I'm not having a happy moment, I'm like, how could the world completely fuck up my whole being?
00:04:15.000Yeah, I'm more interested in funny things these days or really stupid horror movies.
00:04:21.000Is that just escapism from like the fucking insanity that we're dealing with?
00:06:11.000The amount of information, the amount of data that people are getting on a daily basis, you're not designed for this.
00:06:17.000No one's designed to have unlimited options for entertainment viewing at your disposal, on demand, all the time.
00:06:25.000If you ever want a quick reminder of how ADD and how true that is, just look at your fucking, not you specifically, but your own Twitter history.
00:06:33.000I'll go from talking about something deeply political and I'm like, this fucking craziness, to like, did you Did you see tonight's episode?
00:06:40.000And there's like a difference of five minutes.
00:07:15.000They all do that thing where they take out all the ums and pauses and they go from one thing to the other.
00:07:21.000Well, because it is a battle of attention and battle of eyes.
00:07:24.000But I think people are seeing more and more, especially even the YouTube algorithm, podcasts.
00:07:30.000I think that there is 100% always going to be an audience for longer form things.
00:07:34.000My videos started out as, it was even in the little intro sequence, it started out as three to four minutes.
00:07:40.000Let me talk about the world for three or four minutes.
00:07:41.000My videos now are 10 to 18 minutes every day.
00:07:44.000Granted, a lot more is happening every day under this new presidency and stuff like that, but there is an audience that wants more.
00:07:54.000And so you had the Vine guys, but even, I mean, Vine's dead now, but those guys have now launched into longer form pieces where some of it is three to four, and then some are daily 10 to 18 minute pieces.
00:08:05.000So I think there's always going to be an audience.
00:08:08.000People are tuning in longer, more than ever, because the internet was tuned in for six seconds, 15 seconds, one minute, three to four, and it's just getting longer and longer.
00:08:19.000But it's not even just the longer and longer.
00:08:20.000Even if you do a three-minute thing, you're still going to edit out all those little tiny gaps in between sentences.
00:09:01.000You know, the main difference between, I think, the last time I came on here, which was about two years ago, and now, is back then I was kind of scared to share my opinion, right?
00:09:11.000So I was just kind of repetition of...
00:09:14.000Reddit stories that popped up, and things that popped up on websites of, like, this thing happened.
00:09:19.000Anyway, here's the next thing that happened.
00:09:21.000So you're more of an aggregator of things that have happened?
00:09:24.000I feel like I was then, and now it's more of, because no one trusts anything, right?
00:09:28.000Where we talk about right-wing or left-wing people being in their own bubbles, and, you know, we go in like, I know, I know the truth, but you might not, because you're just sticking to the stuff that you believe in, and then you see something from an outside source, and you go, well, that's bullshit.
00:09:47.000I mean, BuzzFeed really, in my opinion, fucked themselves with the way that they released those documents that couldn't be completely confirmed, right?
00:09:53.000With the whole, like, Trump and the prostitutes peeing on the bed stuff.
00:09:57.000And they're like, we can't confirm it.
00:10:00.000And neither can any of the other places that have gotten this information.
00:10:56.000And they became this example of, as long as it's hilarious enough, I forget who said it, as long as it's hilarious enough, people will just roll with it.
00:11:05.000It's like, that's like what a hack premise writer would write.
00:11:09.000Like if you want to write a hack story, a hack scene in a movie about a crazy person, he hires all these hookers, yeah baby, come on pee on daddy.
00:11:19.000I feel like if you heard that, though, and you're like, oh, it's like a coke-fueled businessman from the 80s, you'd be like, yeah, that probably happened.
00:11:33.000You don't think that a multi-billionaire who's kind of a freak would go into that thing and have someone scrub the room and have some expert...
00:12:13.000Yeah, they're going to take the smallest things on TV, and I mean, the media does it at times, and they're going to expand on it and make it this crazy thing.
00:12:22.000The same example with the urination story.
00:12:25.000All of a sudden, I look to Facebook, all my left-leaning friends...
00:12:50.000And I would prefer to actually see, because I am a big fan of get as much information out as possible so that we can actually break shit down.
00:12:58.000Well, every single president has done it before him.
00:13:01.000That's what's so unprecedented about it.
00:13:02.000And he has multiple business ties, apparently, with Russia.
00:13:06.000And he owes a shitload of money to China.
00:13:09.000Like, those things are massive factors.
00:13:12.000And he has these business ventures that he has in all these countries all over the world.
00:13:16.000What's really crazy is his sons are running his business now.
00:14:30.000Yeah, because there are a lot of people that'll ask me why didn't you cover a certain story and it's just I am one guy making like at that time a 16-minute show that I'm trying to explain things properly So how am I going to how am I going to get a point get across all the points?
00:14:43.000Yeah, look at this in Forbes Trump's family cost his trips to cost taxpayers nearly as much in a month as Obama's cost in a whole year Yeah, the whole thing is very bizarre.
00:14:55.000And what's really crazy is he was very critical of Obama, President Barack Obama's vacations, costing taxpayers millions of dollars.
00:15:26.000I mean, but even like, you're throwing out your opinions now, and I think that it's important to have those people, but I think it's also then important to take the time to look into where the Fox News, the Breitbarts, the Donald, all those places, where they're coming from as far as where their opinions come from.
00:15:41.000Well, also Salon.com, Huffington Post.
00:15:44.000I mean, we've got two echo chambers on the left and on the right, and the sound of the both of them is deafening to the point where you can't make out what the fuck is going on.
00:15:53.000Right, and I think that's why it's important to look at both, so you can kind of fucking shimmy it through a filter and see where these sources are coming from.
00:18:24.000And so, with talking about a story like that, that becomes a little different than just talking about politics, because it's seeing something, not knowing fully how it started, so you're having to take the word of two people without having the evidence, and trying to get across the point.
00:18:39.000My main points in the video, I don't like that the cop Didn't seem to de-escalate the situation, didn't continually announce that he was a police officer, didn't announce that he was- Did he announce it at all?
00:18:50.000So there's this point in the video where a kid, I believe, says, I don't believe you're a cop, or how do I know you're a cop, or something like that.
00:18:59.000So it seems like maybe he announced it, but if I was him, right, this is hindsight, of course, I'd be constantly announcing that I am an off-duty police officer and I'm detaining this kid until the police show up, rather than potentially just some stranger grabbing a child.
00:19:13.000And also, I don't agree, or if I was in his position and all of a sudden I started being attacked, I would 100% have pulled the gun out, but I wouldn't have fired it because they were already running away.
00:19:24.000Yeah, but they're only attacking him because of the way he was handling the situation.
00:19:49.000And those are important questions, right?
00:19:51.000So you have to, especially someone that has a concealed weapon, someone that's an off-duty cop, you have to hold them to a higher standard.
00:19:57.000My argument there, though, is if I was in that same position, I would have 100% as I was being attacked, especially if I have a weapon on me that all of a sudden I'm going to get worried that maybe it could be used against me as these kids are already attacking me, I would pull it out.
00:20:09.000But then he takes it to a different level.
00:20:11.000Well, even the way he pulled it out, he pulled it out slow and sloppy.
00:20:55.000Yeah, but the press conference afterwards, it feels very much like they're getting their ducks in a row before they really come down on him.
00:21:02.000Of course, but a cop is just a person.
00:21:05.000And there's gonna be great cops, and there's gonna be morons.
00:21:08.000And there's going to be people that just didn't realize the situation was going to get to where it got to.
00:21:13.000And they just didn't handle all the steps along the way.
00:21:17.000And that's probably what happened with him.
00:21:18.000He probably thought he was going to say, hey, stop coming through my lawn and making noise, you little fucks.
00:21:23.000And the kid's like, fuck you, I'll shoot you.
00:21:32.000But so, like, talking about that story, it's trying to take in both sides of the argument, and then me separately giving my opinion.
00:21:37.000And I did an event last night, and a kid said, you know, what do you say to people that disagree with you there, especially from, like, the Latino community, right?
00:21:46.000Where, like, how a cop is going to treat me...
00:21:49.000It's going to be different than how they treat us.
00:21:51.000And I said, I think it's 100% fine for you to have a disagreement.
00:22:18.000Because I have far left, far right people that watch.
00:22:21.000They don't always agree, but they know that I'm always going into it with the best of intentions and I'm not going to hide facts and I'm not going to hide my opinion.
00:22:30.000Yeah, well, when you're seeing a video like that, you're not seeing what had to transpire before it got to the point where he's holding on to that kid.
00:27:02.000And so then, that got a little traction.
00:27:06.000And then people started going through his other videos, and they were like, he's dressed up, he's watching Hitler in this one.
00:27:12.000Taken completely out of context of him saying that the YouTube Heroes program, which was a program where people can highlight videos, or not highlight them, but mark them down for deletion, because they're offensive, right?
00:27:24.000And so people were like, oh, that's censorship, that's, you're talking about like, Obviously, hyperbole.
00:27:31.000So he made that joke and that relation.
00:27:33.000And then there was one, I want to say if it was on The Verge or Wired, but then they go even further and they're like, he used Leslie Jones' picture.
00:27:42.000On Harambe, taken completely out of context because he was using, there's this Microsoft AI bot, like this chat bot, and you'd say, let me see Harambe as Jesus.
00:27:52.000And either the AI was messed up or people had manipulated it, where it was putting Leslie Jones's face on it, and he was horrified by it.
00:28:00.000And that was the whole joke, but they were saying that he was doing it.
00:28:03.000So this is clear, like you saw him use the software, you saw the error?
00:28:07.000If you try and use the bot today, a picture won't come up, because now they are aware that that's what was happening.
00:28:12.000And so they took all these things and it was this crusade of, look guys, we're looking at this bad guy.
00:28:22.000Some things are not defensible where I can't say it in the sense of, like you say that words don't have power based on intent, and I think there's a lot of truth in that.
00:28:32.000I'm not saying words don't have power based on intent.
00:28:34.000I'm saying that words should just convey intent.
00:30:19.000So for them to call him a Nazi and say that PewDiePie has seven videos where he's done something about Nazis, like...
00:30:27.000People, when they're doing these long-form spitball improvisation videos like that and you're interacting with people, you're gonna say all kinds of shit that in the moment is legitimate.
00:30:39.000But if you chop it up and edit it and splice them all together and then make a five-minute montage of him saying Nazi, like he's obsessed with Nazis!
00:30:47.000And what kind of sucked from it was a lot of people think that, oh, there are articles about the downfall of PewDiePie.
00:30:54.000I think he's gone up half a million, if not more than a million subscribers since all of this happened, right?
00:31:49.000And many are touting it as this victory because he lost Google-preferred ads on YouTube, which I will say I don't know how he was still seen as family-friendly, because I'm not family-friendly on my show.
00:32:00.000His past two years at the very least, not family friendly.
00:34:19.000The problem is so many people have written about it.
00:34:22.000There was one article that was promoted and it said all these articles or all these people defending Felix with but context, that's a bullshit argument.
00:34:39.000If you're talking about a mathematician discussing algorithms, yes, context doesn't really mean that much because he's talking about numbers.
00:36:04.000But do you feel, and you have a legitimate viewpoint on this, do you feel like there is some sort of resentment or anger or...
00:36:18.000So people that are working against the folks that have become these new media stars, because, I mean, you essentially mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but you kind of run your own thing, right?
00:36:39.000No, this is where I start the negotiations.
00:36:43.000No, in a year, because I want to start my own larger news organization of people that are from the left and from the right can debate, like one of my favorites.
00:37:59.000He's one of the most fascinating people I've ever talked to.
00:38:02.000Because of his passion for things, like the way he describes space and astrophysics, it's not just that he's so knowledgeable, it's the intense passion in which he delivers that information that's so infectious.
00:38:14.000Well, that's what separates people, is the passion relating everything to art, right?
00:38:18.000That way, at least it's relatable to everyone.
00:38:20.000Well, it really is, and there's an art form to the way he does it.
00:38:24.000I mean, there's so many people, I mean, I'm sure you probably experienced at some point in your life a boring science teacher, right?
00:38:38.000I would be constantly looking at science blogs and reading all these scientific papers and paying attention to every single news released by NASA of new exoplanets that they've discovered.
00:39:20.000Well, for sure, but the role of the schoolteacher is such an underappreciated and undervalued and Also, it's not just undervalued, underappreciated, but when done incorrectly, it's so fucking potentially damaging.
00:39:37.000I mean, you could really screw a kid's head up.
00:39:57.000That was stuff that maybe pushed me more away from the religion.
00:40:01.000I think later on it was probably my Spanish teacher who was just so disappointed any time I got anything wrong that it just made me scared and made me...
00:40:10.000I didn't have any enthusiasm to all of a sudden learn a new language.
00:40:13.000And so now I'm one of these dumb fucks that only knows one language.
00:41:09.000I stopped doing interviews with mainstream outlets several years ago because they made everything about, like, I would talk about all the really cool ventures that we're going into, how our space is changing things up, and it would always be turned into one comment that maybe was somewhat critical of,
00:41:36.000And so the point has become, when the Wall Street Journal knocks on Felix's door after they didn't apparently approach him for the original story, and they're like, hey, we want to give you a platform to tell your story.
00:42:15.000I highly doubt that they would go, hey, we're super sorry.
00:42:18.000We called you a Nazi in front of millions of people, and we were totally lying.
00:42:21.000Yeah, but the argument all of a sudden is, why should he do an interview with the Wall Street Journal?
00:42:26.000Maybe because they have a different audience, but he has his own larger platform where he controls the narrative.
00:42:32.000He's not going to be selectively edited.
00:42:33.000Right, but he's not speaking to the people that the Wall Street Journal disparaged him in front of.
00:42:37.000But I would assume that they're also covering their ass by going to him and reaching out and giving him a platform.
00:42:42.000They can say, well, we gave him a chance to respond, and the facts remain.
00:42:47.000He did say those things, and they are valid.
00:42:50.000I think if he was confident enough, he should probably do what I've seen Milo Yiannopoulos do in the past, where he had someone film at the same time.
00:42:57.000So if they did misrepresent him in some manner...
00:44:23.000But then there's an argument that you leave it up because you show that you were wrong.
00:44:27.000If it's on Twitter, you quote tweet it.
00:44:29.000But that still doesn't fix it because as much as we talk about bubbles and separation, that tweet, that promotion of a thing is separate from everything else in the world.
00:44:38.000Tweets are problematic anyway, because it's 140 characters, and it's very difficult to adequately explain some subjects in 140 characters.
00:44:45.000But if you put out some information that's not true, like this PewDiePie thing, you absolutely should print a retraction, and you absolutely, if you have it still up on your website, the first thing you should say is, this is all taken out of context, and it's incorrect,
00:45:00.000and it does not represent who this guy is, and you should absolutely not have those writers do that again.
00:45:06.000I mean, whether you fire them or whether you...
00:45:52.000That is part of the problem with doing something like you do, and it's certainly part of the problem with a podcast, is if you're talking for three hours and you take these little snippets of those three hours out of context, it paints a completely distorted perception of who the person is.
00:47:43.000What they're doing is trying to find a way to control you and call you a bad person and be angry at you.
00:47:49.000They could see that it was a mistake or if it wasn't a mistake, you just, look, if someone was a he for 30 fucking years and they became a she for a year and you still call them a he, I don't think you're a monster.
00:48:26.000Because I try to make it to no one's the villain in my head so that I can see where they're coming from.
00:48:30.000I go, well, maybe that person, maybe they're not...
00:48:33.000Because there are definitely professional victims and cry bullies out there.
00:48:36.000Maybe there's someone that in their day-to-day life, someone says, you fucking tranny.
00:48:40.000Maybe they say all this hateful stuff.
00:48:42.000No, but that's not what you're saying.
00:48:43.000No, I know, but then they take it out on the wrong person, right?
00:48:45.000I try and see if, like, is this person being attacked so much that then they become this accidental monster, which is what has pushed me more towards the center.
00:48:54.000Before I came to California, I was an ultra-liberal.
00:48:57.000I had the most liberal ideas of like, yeah, if I'm a doctor and I'm making $3 million a year, I should give 70%.
00:51:26.000I saw a headline this morning that said, like, Caitlyn said something that, like, this presidency is ridiculous, and I was like, why do we care?
00:51:53.000I don't know what traditions you're talking about.
00:51:56.000But anytime any of these places get any of these celebrities to have an opinion, I'm like, I think the election proved no one fucking cares.
00:52:05.000No one cares what these fucking people say.
00:52:08.000At the end of the day, you don't get a free pass just because you change your gender.
00:52:12.000You're still judged based on the quality of your thoughts and how you express yourself.
00:52:16.000And if you are a fucking grown adult and you're against gay marriage but you're also transgender, you're crazy.
00:52:24.000And I know she's buckled down because of some of the pressure that people put on her, like Ellen, and she kind of softened her stance on it.
00:52:31.000But the bottom line is, you're in your fucking 60s, and you don't think that men should be able to get married if they're in love with each other.
00:52:37.000You're out of your mind, or women, or anybody.
00:52:51.000So, a lot of people have then talked about...
00:52:55.000There's this weird thing where it's like, all of a sudden, you say new kind of Republican, and they go, oh, so you're talking about white supremacists under a whole different banner.
00:53:03.000Yeah, so what I was talking about were people that, Republicans that don't give a fuck about gay people getting married, and they're like, I'm about...
00:53:10.000I'm a Republican because, you know, small government, right?
00:53:13.000And jobs, but if gay people get married, that's fine.
00:53:17.000If it's a moral issue like that, I find myself more liberal.
00:53:19.000And I all of a sudden became kind of excited about all these new people that didn't give a fuck.
00:54:21.000When you're talking about people who troll online, go back to when you were a young liberal and you thought that if I was a doctor and I was making $3 million a year, of course I should be given 70% in taxes.
00:54:31.000You don't have that, so you're looking at the people who do, and this part of you is like, give it away, man.
00:54:53.000Half the reason why they want to say go Trump is because they want this clearly maniacal person to just throw a fucking monkey wrench into the gears and watch the whole system explode.
00:57:10.000Because they want I think it's part of it.
00:57:13.000Part is going to be that they want to burn it down.
00:57:16.000But I think it's just also there are a lot of people that don't have the concept of shit that we do online having potentially horrible ramifications in the real world.
00:57:23.000I think that slowly we're getting closer to that where it's all the fucking same thing.
00:57:28.000And if you do some crazy outlandish shit, you should know that a ton of people might see it.
00:57:33.000It's why it's one of my favorite things to...
00:57:36.000Screenshot and and and talk back to a few people that say stupid shit to me online Just because it's like you think that you're saying it in this like tiny room But the internet's fucking everybody in a room, right?
00:57:45.000You know everyone like what you say has ramifications Well, not only that you shouldn't want to say it so you have to get to the root of the problem Like what why would someone want to be so evil?
00:57:55.000Why would someone want to hurt someone's feelings so badly that you're mocking his I think there are a lot of people that just died I So that's a horrible emotional example.
00:58:07.000So what I would say separately from that, if you're talking about trolling liberals or something like that, I think that there are people that want to burn the whole thing down, and then I think there are some people that literally have the mindset that it's just for laughs, right?
00:58:43.000Well, you gotta go back in time to where their mother was raising them and take them away from the mom and bring them to a happy person and give them love and lots of hugs.
00:58:51.000I think people, as long as you don't automatically call someone the villain, I think that you can get some people.
00:58:57.000Not all of them, because some people, like you said, they want to fucking throw a hand grenade.
00:59:00.000If you don't automatically call them the villain when they're a troll?
00:59:05.000Yes, when they're maybe saying something they would see as evil things.
00:59:07.000I'm not talking about the Patton Oswalt situation, because if you go after someone grieving over their wife, you're a fucking horrible monster, and hopefully you do understand that that has real-world ramifications.
01:00:23.000There's going to be the whole, like, let's destroy each other war.
01:00:25.000I'm just going to try and be the asshole...
01:00:28.000That's in the middle with leanings here and there that tries to go like, hey, maybe we fucking calm down.
01:00:33.000It's not the best thing for my career because I would have a far larger audience if I pandered to just one side because I alienate people daily by having left views and then right views.
01:01:39.000It can be under the veil of, I hate snowflakes, but there's hypocrisy in that a little bit, in the sense of every time she's screaming, she does seem like a snowflake on some of the topics.
01:01:49.000But don't you think that's for effect, though, for dramatic effect?
01:01:53.000Because half of it is performance art.
01:02:56.000No, but she, like you were saying, whether you consider it performance art, whether you consider it anything, she plays one side, and it has been a very massive, successful rise.
01:03:05.000I think that, but what I want to do for the long term...
01:03:12.000Like, you're saying that if you went one way, show me another guy who's gone one way, who looks like you, a reasonable, normal-looking fella.
01:03:20.000You're not some super buff pro athlete or some androgynous weirdo that people can't take their eyes away from.
01:04:20.000I like the conversations on mine, though.
01:04:22.000I mean, you have people that are really passionate, but then there are a lot of threads where it's like people having conversations that don't normally disagree with each other.
01:04:29.000Well, I'm saying this, the whole reason why I said it in the first place is more of a compliment than anything.
01:04:33.000I think it's a great thing that you're very, like, here's a perfect example.
01:04:37.000The way you handled the Milo Yiannopoulos thing.
01:04:40.000I think you're very fair, and I think it's great that you're neither left nor right, but rather reasonable.
01:04:46.000You know, you're reasonable and considered, and I think that's one of your strengths.
01:04:50.000I don't think you'd have a bigger audience if you just went all right.
01:04:53.000I think you'd be a big ol' phony, unless you became Felina and then you got some tits and put on a nice little dress and then you could wear like sleeveless shirts, you know, because right now if you wear sleeveless shirts,
01:05:09.000you're a douchebag because you're a male, right?
01:05:12.000If you're a man and you show your arms, you're a piece of shit.
01:05:15.000Also, I gotta start going to the gym because no one wants to see that now.
01:07:02.000Shoving things up her vagina when she was little like what well so that's that's where right that's where when you say like I'm reasonable with a Milo thing well because you have to take into context other other people right is it is it a hit job but also what you said earlier where people are human beings and and look like let's talk it out so Milo said some some things that even he said he apologized for others he said was misconstrued but And then there's the George Takei thing,
01:07:28.000which is different, but still the same.
01:07:30.000Well, the George Takei thing, you have to explain to people, because most people have no idea what you're talking about.
01:07:37.000I have conversations in my head that then I utter words halfway through.
01:07:40.000Well, you're just so entrenched with media.
01:07:42.000You have so much shit coming into your head every day that you assume everybody else is watching the same videos.
01:07:46.000But they're just actually living their lives.
01:07:48.000So they did a hit piece on George Takei, essentially, to sort of show that George Takei Well, he was talking about his own personal experiences when he was very young with a camp counselor who did some sexually inappropriate things to him.
01:08:00.000But he was talking about them in a very positive way, that he enjoyed it, and people were saying, George Takei is promoting sex amongst 13-year-olds as being okay.
01:08:09.000No, he's talking about his own personal experience and being honest about it.
01:08:12.000Well, and then the way that ends up becoming a comparison is that because it ends up being this weird argument of numbers, of lines in the sand, where he said, I said 13 because that's when I had my first experience.
01:08:28.000He talked about the age of 14, which was, I think, when you were...
01:08:31.000So that was a conversation he had with you with the priest situation.
01:08:35.000And then people were pointing out that his mindset changed.
01:08:39.000And my argument there was, what you're talking about, to me, even if he, at any point before, before he acknowledged it, to me, it sounded like he was a victim.
01:08:48.000But then that creates the argument, too, of...
01:08:51.000If someone's a victim early in life, what does that excuse later on?
01:08:55.000Now, I'm not making the argument that Milo then went on to do and became a Sandusky, right?
01:09:01.000He was having a conversation, and it's words.
01:09:04.000But at what point do we excuse things?
01:09:06.000And that's a conversation I like to have, where it's not damning.
01:09:10.000I don't want to go in on a victim, but also at the same time, I'm going, it's fucking weird.
01:09:15.000It's a me, and I think it's completely wrong if you have an adult...
01:09:22.000And I feel like you always have to put people in their shoes, where if I was a parent and I'm dropping my kid off to fucking middle school and I find out some 25-year-old is fucking my son, I'm going to go to jail, but that's going to be a fucking dead person.
01:09:43.000Yeah, I mean, I completely feel you and I understand what you're saying.
01:09:47.000I think the Milo situation is very bizarre because I think there is irreparable damage that's done to people when they're molested as children.
01:09:56.000And I think Milo has been really clear about the fact that he was molested and he's tried to paint it in a positive light.
01:10:02.000But he tries to paint a lot of fucked up things in a positive light and it could easily be his rationalizing and trying to figure out...
01:10:09.000No one wants to be a victim in their own life, right?
01:10:47.000If it's valid, if the outrage is valid, and I think it's valid, I think that what they're saying about what he was saying is absolutely valid.
01:12:20.000Pick apart his arguments about feminism, about transgender people, about gay rights, because he's got some crazy thoughts about gay people, and he's gay.
01:12:29.000He thinks that it's a choice, and he thinks that it's offensive, and if he could have a pill to not be gay, he would take it in a heartbeat.
01:12:38.000I think when you have someone like Milo or anyone else, the number one thing shouldn't be, let me silence that person, right?
01:12:43.000Because that's just going to, one, bolster them, validate them, let them talk.
01:12:48.000So when you see situations like Berkeley, where I did see, I had people that sent me videos, and there was a protest in the beginning that it was just people being outspoken, and then there was the fucking crazy chaos of people, I know that you've talked about it before, of the people getting sprayed in the face with fucking pepper spray,
01:13:08.000What I really, really hate is the people that aren't doing that, that are like, yeah, that's what we should be doing, that aren't doing it.
01:15:22.000Giant groups of people face something called diffusion of responsibility.
01:15:26.000And that means when chaotic events are going on, they don't take responsibility for their own action because they're a part of this gigantic chaotic movement.
01:15:32.000And I've personally, and this is just Totally unfounded.
01:15:38.000And I think people are used to large-scale tribal war, and I think it's been going on for so long, and the atrocities that are required for you to survive in war, like, you know, with battle axes and shit, Braveheart style.
01:15:49.000I think once that breaks out, you lock into this massive mind sink with all the people around you, and you just accept this violent chaos.
01:15:59.000And I think that happens on campuses, when people...
01:16:16.000You know, like, I'm sure you saw the girl that got maced in the face that had the mate Bitcoin Great Again hat, and they hit her over the head with a stick.
01:16:35.000I think if you listen to the audio before all of it happens, outside of that clip, she's literally saying, I'm actually surprised things are pretty calm here.
01:16:43.000Because sometimes things go out of hand, and then 20 seconds later, pepper spray to the face.
01:17:05.000Find out that, because someone told me that, that it was a 60-year-old man that pepper sprayed her in the face.
01:17:11.000So, I mean, obviously we're talking about different kinds of severity, but there are people on both sides, and it's important to acknowledge that, that want to burn the whole fucking thing down, whether it be a person or an argument.
01:17:21.000Yeah, and if you're a 60-year-old man, you're still a fucking loser, and there's a pretty girl in front of you, and you're like, burn it down!
01:17:28.000I could never fuck you when I was young, and I can't fuck you now!
01:17:37.000I'm very much of the belief that we have, rather than...
01:17:40.000More and more people are talking about generalities, where it's the left versus the right.
01:17:44.000I feel like a lot of the conversation, a lot of the stories end up being about these far left and far right people that are fucking Pac-manning their way to the middle and just slowly absorbing more and more people.
01:18:08.000After the election, I don't know about your personal family and friend group, but how many people cut off contact with each other for a while?
01:18:15.000Because on mine, holy fuck, it was like war.
01:18:18.000It was war, ending of relationships that had been longer than a decade.
01:19:23.000I know a dude who was in the CIA, and he was telling me about his office where he works, that one of the women at the office was openly weeping.
01:19:56.000Yeah, I feel like everyone was was either like burning bridges or Coming out to their friends in a way of like our friends and family as Trump supporters because there are a lot of people that were scared.
01:20:06.000Yeah Well, I think that he represents a lot of very dangerous things You know and he in a lot of people's eyes.
01:20:14.000This is the death of responsibility He can get away with more things and then also these We're good to go.
01:20:46.000But him as a human being standing in front of that podium talking as the president was a joy, in that he was very measured and very calm, and I think that he's also very articulate and very well-educated,
01:21:02.000and that thing that he represented when he was up there, that thing, the president, ta-da, ta-da, that figurehead that he represented, he did such an amazing job of representing that, because he was exceptional.
01:22:38.000Well, there's been people that have been controlling the system, people that were deeply entrenched in the left and deeply entrenched in the right for so long, and he's the first businessman that has been...
01:22:51.000He's been a participant in our system.
01:22:53.000He's been essentially paying these guys off for years and years, and now here he is.
01:22:58.000Like, he talked pretty openly, which I thought was hilarious, about Hillary and Bill coming to his wedding, and that the reason why they did it is because he paid them.
01:23:08.000You know, I mean, he paid them, I think it was more than $100,000 for them to come to his wedding.
01:23:21.000I mean, let's be real about what the Clinton Foundation is, whether or not it did good work.
01:23:25.000It's a goddamn pay-to-play operation, and one of the things they got, besides the donations, which I'm sure did go to charitable causes, they got paid to speak.
01:23:33.000They didn't just get paid to speak a little.
01:23:35.000They got paid to speak hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they did it over and over and over again, both Bill and Hillary.
01:23:41.000And there's a reason why, for the same reason why Trump won't release his taxes, Hillary won't release the transcripts of those speeches that she gave to the banks, because they would be horrific.
01:23:51.000If they weren't horrific, she would release them.
01:24:13.000It's a system that they've figured out how to find loopholes, and they've created legislation over the years that have allowed them to skirt through these weird sort of fucking avenues of legality, and they get to this point where they're making insane amounts of money as a public servant.
01:24:30.000I mean, Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton have earned hundreds of fucking millions of dollars, and Doing what?
01:25:13.000He's not guilty of getting paid hundreds of millions of dollars to talk and to give his influence as a person who's serving, whether it's the Senate or someone who's a president.
01:25:25.000That's not why he's getting that money.
01:25:27.000He's corrupt in a totally different way.
01:25:48.000I should probably learn more and then get more upset and then talk more.
01:25:51.000I used to joke about, I mean, I still do it from time to time, that I would want to be president, but when you see these dudes become president, they look like one month in, they look like they're in a race they didn't train for.
01:26:02.000Somebody should have a picture of Trump now.
01:26:05.000Well, he talked at CPAC this morning, and he was on the prompters, but I was just like...
01:26:09.000I don't know if it's the white balance on this video, but...
01:27:52.000Oh, yeah, right It's who's gonna last the longest who's gonna who's gonna keep on fighting.
01:27:56.000It's shaking You know, we're having an earthquake and the earthquake is gonna fuck up all those shitty buildings all the the ones without the strong foundation They're gonna they're gonna be wrecked and we're gonna have to condemn them and tear them down and start fresh and See I don't like it.
01:28:17.000I would have hoped that we got a savior.
01:28:19.000I would have hoped that someone stepped in that was a really reasonable person, but I don't think a reasonable person even can get traction.
01:28:25.000I think our system is so fucked up that we almost might benefit from some crazy asshole coming in here and doing what he's doing.
01:28:32.000Well, I don't think you get a normal person who, one, wants to be president and then gets propped up by all the people that are already in power.
01:30:02.000I mean, things are a bit chaotic, or are chaotic now, but we live in Disneyland compared to most of the world, and I think that's important for people to remember.
01:30:10.000But the problem is those people that are over there in non-Disneyland, they're just like you or I. They just got a shitty roll of the dice.
01:30:18.000And that's what's fucked up about this whole refugee thing, you know, this idea that somehow or another, if someone's a Muslim, you can keep them from coming into this country.
01:30:25.000Like, man, I know a lot of Muslims and they're nice people.
01:30:28.000Like, you can't, like, just because someone believes wacky shit, okay, whether they're Moonies or whether they're Mormons, whether, I know some really nice Mormons.
01:31:03.000You know, there's a lot of people that believe some ridiculous shit, and they need the opportunity, just like all of us do, to have peace and prosperity, and to have the opportunity to take in more information that may make you reconsider your belief system.
01:31:17.000Yeah, I feel like when it comes to the immigration thing, there's people on two fronts, right?
01:31:20.000There's one as far as general immigration, people coming through legally from countries, and then there's also the refugee program, right?
01:31:30.000What I've seen is a lot of arguments of, okay, so you're saying that these people are displaced.
01:31:35.000They're having to go through all these horrible things.
01:31:37.000People are saying, why is that my problem?
01:31:40.000Is it because America is the land of dreams and we should offer that because we're great?
01:31:46.000Why should that, and then, once again, not my argument, but why is that taking precedent over me, who's, you know, I went to college, things haven't worked out, my life's fucking in shambles, I have people yelling that I have white privilege all the time,
01:32:02.000and the fucking, seems like the world's more and more against me every day.
01:32:05.000Why, if, and in their head, like, all these people are at risk, right?
01:32:09.000First of all, let me stop right there.
01:32:37.000Are you finding shit to complain about?
01:32:39.000Look, everybody has their own hand that they're dealt, right?
01:32:42.000And some people are in impoverished fucking coal miner communities in West Virginia, and some people are born in Marin County with a fucking silver spoon in their mouth.
01:32:51.000But if you don't think that your opportunities are far greater because you live in America than they are if you're a Syrian refugee coming over here wrapped up in a fucking tent, you're crazy.
01:33:02.000And one of the things that makes this place so fucking special is that it's the land of opportunity.
01:33:08.000As soon as you stop having it be the land of opportunity, you stop taking in those new people, you stop giving those people that opportunity, and then you make this place a different thing.
01:33:17.000You make this place this secluded, isolated, you know, put the fence up, put the wall up, everybody in is in, everybody else could go fuck themselves.
01:33:42.000Well, there's certainly good and bad to all forms of immigration, and there's certainly good and bad to cultural integration.
01:33:50.000Cultural integration is where things get really problematic, especially for women.
01:33:54.000For women and women that have dealt with all the horrific situations that have happened in all these European countries where Muslims have come in and the radical ones have wanted to enforce their ideas, the Sharia law ideas on the women in the area,
01:34:09.000and they see women walking around in miniskirts.
01:34:14.000The integration of cultural norms and values into a Western society that has just a completely different idea of what's acceptable and not acceptable.
01:34:23.000That's going to take some fucking time.
01:34:24.000And if I was in that area, I'd get the fuck out of Dodge.
01:34:27.000I would not want to be around if there's a culture war going on, where people are fighting and arguing over ideas that may or may not include your wife, your daughter, your mother.
01:34:47.000You cannot let that happen in America.
01:34:49.000If you get people that are coming, you have to have a no tolerance policy to anyone that's giving anyone a hard time Over accepted values in America, like the way women are allowed to dress or driving cars.
01:35:01.000What if you come over from Saudi Arabia and you want to kill all the women that are driving cars?
01:35:04.000You know, like what if you want to impart Sharia law on women that are committing adultery or doing any of the things that are just...
01:35:13.000There's no law against a girl deciding to fuck a hundred guys in America.
01:35:17.000If a girl decides to rent out a warehouse and go, hey, first hundred guys get to fuck me, come on in.
01:35:22.000In another country, you could be put to death for that.
01:35:53.000I mean, Christians used to be a part of the Inquisition.
01:35:57.000I mean, they were torturing people, and they're getting people to confess to horrific crimes that they never really did.
01:36:03.000They did all sorts of things to people that were nonbelievers, and that was a normal part of life in some parts of the world a long time ago.
01:36:11.000We have to assume that that kind of progress is not just isolated to Christians.
01:36:16.000It's not just something that one belief system can sort of embody that sort of evolution.
01:36:23.000This can be something that we experience in a lot of different Thank you.
01:36:58.000Anything's better than being in a bomb zone where things are just going off left and right and suicide bombings and missiles and chaos and death and Isis throwing people off the roof for being gay.
01:37:09.000I mean, it's just horrific So those people that are living in that it's almost like their life is It can't get any worse.
01:37:53.000I mean, it goes back to the Disneyland thing.
01:37:54.000We're at Disneyland and we're really pissed that some of the rides are closed and we're in line and we feel like other people are getting ahead.
01:38:07.000I have a bleeding heart in some capacities when you see those things and you're like, we have to help whoever we have to help.
01:38:13.000But my goal is to always understand the guy that doesn't want to have to fucking move out of his neighborhood because all these people came in and the culture changed.
01:38:22.000It's just taking into account his mindset.
01:38:25.000Even you said, all of a sudden you're worried about your daughter, your wife, that there are people that have that mindset.
01:38:32.000It's the easiest thing in the world to create an us-versus-them argument, especially if there's fear unto my family.
01:38:39.000You have fear for yourself, but any time all of a sudden you have a family, it's next level.
01:38:46.000Well, also I think people are worried about people coming over here and not integrating.
01:38:50.000They're coming over here and then they start these communities where they all use the same language, they all use the same language.
01:38:57.000The same written language on their signs, and then they develop these Chinatown type neighborhoods.
01:39:02.000Not disparaging Chinatown in any way, but that's just as an example of ethnic communities that sort of stay isolated.
01:39:08.000Like, there's places in Chinatown where you go and no one's speaking English.
01:39:11.000They're all just running around speaking Chinese and they can't speak English, but they figured out a way to integrate.
01:39:15.000There's also Latino communities in this country that are like that similarly as well.
01:39:20.000And I think people are worried about that, like that spreading.
01:39:23.000And they say that that has actually happened in parts of Paris, and it's happened in parts of Germany, where these people have come over from other countries as refugees, and they've established communities, and then they enforce their laws.
01:39:34.000And that was something that Milo was going to do.
01:39:38.000He was going to do some sort of a march, and he was going to do like some gay march through, I think it was Sweden.
01:39:48.000I think he was going to go through the worst Muslim neighborhoods in Sweden, but they just decided it was far too dangerous.
01:39:53.000Sweden had so much promo in the past week.
01:40:00.000And then right after they said that, some horrific...
01:40:03.000Outbreak took place like by the way It's got a little violence going on there now that you didn't used to have right around but the growing pains like if you take people from a violent place and then you let them loose like there was this one horrific story about this guy from Iraq that came over some some refugee and he raped some boy in Germany and his Response where they asked him why he did is like I hadn't seen my wife in six months and I was having a sexual emergency Yeah,
01:40:33.000so and wow, you know like what like there's things actually I don't think it was from Iraq I think it was from Afghanistan, but there's there's things that go on in other parts of the world that become I don't want to say the norm, but they do happen there,
01:40:50.000That's where I think it's important, and I feel like general people don't have the time, where it's important to be as educated as possible, because if we're basing things off of the way things are generally becoming, or it seems like more and more, yes.
01:41:03.000But if you're basing stuff off of outliers, I think that's where things are crazy, where you hear someone that was here illegally They keep talking about the same story over and over.
01:41:15.000It was like, it was someone here illegally, there was a murder, right?
01:41:17.000And it's like the same story, and I want to see the bigger picture, because yes, that's fucking horrifying in a bubble.
01:41:25.000If it leans more towards, holy shit, this is scary, then yeah.
01:41:29.000But if you base something off of, like with guns, right?
01:41:34.000If you base something off of one specific shooting that is, like if you look at the body count, the guns involved specifically, if it's an outlier, If it's representative of a bigger problem, then you feel you go after the bigger problem if you actually want to have an effect that's not just superficial,
01:42:13.000I remember watching some documentary on suicide bombings, and they were raising these children to be suicide bombings, and they had these pictures of these kids, these holy images of these children with suicide vests on, on the wall that had already committed suicide.
01:42:26.000And there was a sign in Islamic that said, today's Actually, Islam is not a language.
01:43:16.000Productive, kind, reasonable people that are stuck in a really shitty place, and isn't that supposed to be what America's about?
01:43:22.000So you can't just say, there's a small percentage of people that are doing horrific shit, so now we can't let anybody that looks like them in.
01:43:29.000Because that gets crazy, and that isolates us from the whole rest of the world, too.
01:44:23.000That's not safe either, because there'll be consequences for, you know, going against Big Brother.
01:44:27.000So it's like, for me, when I talk about these things, it's just, it's a, we're fucked, but in what way are we going to be fucked situation?
01:45:31.000Like, one of the things that really freaked me out was when they started finding all these scraping marks on the inside of Neanderthal heads that indicated that people were eating the Neanderthal brains.
01:46:27.000So things are much more reasonable in terms of foreign travel, in terms of international relations, things are much more reasonable.
01:46:34.000You've got to think that if it continues to go in that direction...
01:46:38.000We'll have a better world for our grandchildren and our great-grandchildren, but what steps have to be taken to make sure that the rest of the world's horrific conditions don't spill over to America?
01:46:52.000Well, isn't one of the best ways to take those people out of those horrific conditions and introduce them to this beautiful, free concept, this concept of Self-government, this unique place where there isn't a caste system,
01:47:08.000where you can, if you play your cards right and you're fortunate and you get the right breaks and put in the right amount of work, you literally can go from being a poor person to being a very wealthy person.
01:47:19.000You can go from being We're good to go.
01:47:41.000The idea of all of us coming together on a positive idea will bring us all together?
01:47:45.000I 100% think it has to be a bad thing that unites us, right?
01:49:09.000It has to be a bad thing that unites us of where we become the we or the us versus the them, the other.
01:49:16.000But the problem is there's, whether it be nationalism or religion or fucking anything, there's so many things that within our own create an easy us versus them mentality.
01:49:27.000And, I mean, I'm a personal believer in that eventually we're just going to kill each other.
01:49:48.000When you're talking about statistically speaking, that's the grand scale.
01:49:51.000I'm talking about the next big thing to happen, as far as whether it be all-out war, not the things that are happening in our streets right now.
01:50:47.000And that was just, and in my head, it was a mix of horror to then also them, because they cut to certain shots, because they're the shots that you remember of people running away from the debris, but then there was also shots of people just looking at it, and then some people just like, Walking at a steady pace before the second one hit and I was like wow like nothing for a second when I looked at the people that were there before the you saw like the people running in to help people I thought nothing can destroy us like that was that was kind of my mindset of this
01:51:17.000horrible thing just happened and it was before the second one hit so it was like what's what's happening?
01:51:23.000But, I mean, I think that's a good example, too.
01:51:25.000I don't want that to ever happen again in a small or a big scale.
01:51:30.000But do you remember how united everyone was?
01:53:53.000They were burning buildings down that had nothing to do with the riots.
01:53:57.000I'm sure you saw there was a piece on these Korean business owners in Koreatown.
01:54:03.000They were invaded during the riots because they're not the best proximity to where all the South Central shit was going down post-Rodney King.
01:54:11.000And these people were on the rooftops just trying to defend their stores and trying to stop looters from taking away everything they earned and everything they worked for their whole lives.
01:54:21.000You know, those moments when things get chaotic, they do open up the door for people to reconsider how fortunate we are when things aren't chaotic.
01:54:31.000I think that's the very unfortunate thing.
01:54:34.000We only open ourselves up after something horrible.
01:54:38.000And because I think that we see horrible thing after horrible thing, We slowly get further and further away from being able to unite just because it's...
01:54:47.000At least in our 24-7 news cycle, it seems like that's just the world we live in, right?
01:54:52.000It's just like, there's scary shit, man.
01:54:53.000Hopefully we can keep that away from us.
01:54:55.000Well, and again, it goes back to what we were talking about really early on.
01:54:58.000I just honestly think we're taking in too much data.
01:55:02.000Like, your life and my life should really revolve around...
01:55:07.000The people that we're in contact with, the people that we communicate with, and our immediate surroundings.
01:55:12.000And our immediate surroundings, we both work in the same area, is really pleasant.
01:55:30.000This is our world, but now our world is extended to include Pakistan and North Korea and what is happening here and what's happening there.
01:55:39.000Did you hear that King John Un's half-brother was killed with some toxic paint or something?
01:56:07.000That you'd go outside and, you know, they'd be like, today on the news, AIDS, death, murder, pit bulls, guns, stabbings, and you go outside, you hear birds chirping, where the fuck's all this happening?
01:56:20.000I forget what I was listening to, but it was a comparison to when people are thinking about the world, when they're thinking about the country, all of that is usually far, far different when they talk about their local community.
01:56:31.000Because in our local community, we're like, oh, things are...
01:56:33.000A lot of people think things are good.
01:56:35.000Obviously, there are places where bad shit's happening.
01:56:36.000But when we look at our own community, we're like, that's great.
01:56:39.000And I do think that's a place where we start, right?
01:56:42.000Make the local good and try and expand from there.
01:56:46.000Because, yeah, when you look out and you look at specifically like Chicago...
01:58:39.000We're talking about with Chicago and Syria and all these other things is just where you're dealing with the data from 7 billion people and that is Unfathomable.
01:58:49.000Yeah, it's impossible to handle and so that's why Take a look then look like you're saying around you and start from there.
01:58:55.000Yeah, because otherwise you're gonna at some point just be completely wrong And I think it's probably a good idea for all of us, you and I included, to filter out some of the data that we're taking in.
01:59:39.000But I think that's why you have to have people that throw themselves out there that are going to get steamrolled by people that oppose on that specific day that viewpoint.
01:59:48.000Because otherwise, just the people that have that time, that want to see the world just fucking implode, right?
01:59:55.000There are a lot of people that have that time.
01:59:58.000So we have to, I think, be dedicated to have a conversation.
02:00:01.000This is the last thing I want to ask you about, and this might come off a scene silly, but I think there might be some validity to it.
02:00:07.000Do you think that this ability that you have, and that I have and all the people that come on this podcast or any podcast have, this new ability to express ideas and communicate, do you think that that is having an effect on On the way people view the world.
02:00:25.000And that this open form of communication where, you know, you and I with...
02:00:39.000We can communicate to millions of people having this conversation and then millions of people will talk to their friends and express their own opinions, whether they agree, disagree or maybe have some other things to add to it.
02:00:54.000They express that to their friends at work and their friends, you know.
02:00:59.000And these dialogues take on a life of their own.
02:01:03.000And these ideas that we're expressing and that other people are expressing at work or at play, they're more potent now and they spread faster now than they ever have before.
02:01:15.000And I think there's an evolution of ideas.
02:01:20.000That's where all the white privilege shit comes from and all the gender politics and all the weirdness.
02:01:27.000All of it comes from these turbocharged ideas, these nuclear ideas now, where ideas spread to the point where words become taboo and use the wrong words.
02:01:39.000Gender pronoun when you're talking about a trans person and you're the worst human ever and all these new things that are existing and I think these new things are because Dialogue and information is just it has a different weight to it now.
02:01:54.000It's almost like the gravity is shifted on it.
02:01:56.000I think a lot of the reason why We have our positions and other people do is because it is that it is a it is a dialogue It is in a weird way an extended friend group, right?
02:02:10.000That's where people have I think the the best conversations as far as where we grow right if if I mean, they constantly come out with numbers of, you know, the trust in media, right?
02:02:20.000Of just, like, they have an agenda, but if it's just people talking, right?
02:02:24.000Just guys talking, that you don't feel like Joe's got this agenda that he wants to just shove down everyone's throat.
02:02:31.000There are gonna be people that say that, but I think that's good.
02:03:59.000Information is something that you can take in, understand, but if it's a flawed argument, even if it's opinion-based, if it's a flawed argument, then you can use it.
02:04:08.000And maybe it's not a flawed argument and you fucking learned something.
02:04:23.000I think there are people that wake up in the morning and wanna fucking burn the world, but I refuse to believe that that's the majority.
02:04:30.000And I'm gonna start trying to deal with people I think that are sensible, that at the very least think they're sensible, weed out the ones that really aren't, ones tested, and just fucking go.
02:04:45.000I think you're very well thought out, and when you consider things like the most recent Milo video, you're being very fair, and I think the world needs more of that.