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00:01:22.000Like, if you, like, knocked me over the head ten years ago and put me in a coma and then woke me up today and then I was like, well, what's going on?
00:02:34.000Like, the internet, you have to, like, I always look at comedy like music, you know, and I always say, like, I know how to do, I know how to play acoustic guitar, which is like stand-up, you know what I mean?
00:02:44.000And I know how to write, I've written for TV shows, that's like playing the piano.
00:02:47.000Instagram, Twitter, that's like the saxophone, man.
00:02:51.000I'm trying to learn the music, but it's funny, man.
00:03:39.000Yeah, so it's like you just have to embrace it and go like, nah, that's a funny form of comedy that I need to figure out.
00:03:43.000There's a lot of thievery going on with memes, too.
00:03:44.000Oh, yeah, you know a lot of people like that fat Jewish guy that just take everybody else's memes and he doesn't even like put repost He just puts their name in it like that's enough.
00:03:53.000Yeah, like he puts their name somewhere in the in the post Yeah, he's one of those dudes where I don't know anything about him, but It's hard to like him.
00:04:33.000Yeah, it's just, there's a funky thing.
00:04:36.000But also, I gotta be honest, I've been sent some things, I don't know where the fuck they came from, and I put it up just because I thought it was hilarious.
00:04:56.000I mean, I've only made one Instagram thing that like did okay, which was it was a picture of Ivanka Trump in that silver dress and Right when she released it, I was like, oh, I gotta do something about this.
00:05:11.000And I said to my girlfriend, I go, what does this look like?
00:05:14.000So I found a Chipotle burrito wrapped in tinfoil, and I was like, who wore it better?
00:05:19.000And it did really, it was like the only time I did something on Instagram, because a lot of times I put a joke on Instagram, I'm like, get ready, Internet.
00:08:16.000That's what I... For me, it was like, you know, The Daily Show, when I used to be at The Daily Show, it was like, we were doing stuff, and it always felt like we were the fastest ones doing it.
00:08:25.000Now, with memes and stuff, you're going...
00:08:31.000Yeah, I mean it's it's the speed by which things are launched and are good.
00:08:37.000Yeah, they're not crappy like the mock-ups are funny and the graphics are funny and like people are doing like I don't know how fast people are editing photos on their phone or like Photoshop but instantaneously well they happen during podcasts while we're doing podcasts I'm gonna make a meme about something said on the podcast and it'll be up before the podcast is over yeah for me that the moment I For me,
00:10:32.000And we'd have to get up at like 5 o'clock in the morning and show up at people's houses to catch them working when they were supposed to be on insurance.
00:11:02.000I mean, I would be crying, like, tears rolling down my eyes, laughing and thinking, like, I'm the one who's a fucking comedian, and my boss is way funnier than me.
00:11:10.000Yeah, all the guys I grew up with are funny.
00:12:10.000Well, everybody said something funny at one point in their life.
00:12:13.000And one of the weird things about being a comedian is it's a special skill that doesn't look like it's a special skill.
00:12:19.000Like, if I walked up to somebody who's, like, you know, making a sculpture or something like that, I'd be like, Oh, wow, how are you doing that?
00:12:52.000And so it's one of the things that's so deceptive about it.
00:12:55.000And then you watch someone who's really good at it.
00:12:58.000It's like, well, that seems so effortless.
00:13:00.000This guy's up there killing like this.
00:13:02.000I always feel like the years of it or being on stage, it's like you have to become as close to you As you can be in front of a group of people.
00:13:17.000I always found in the beginning the hardest stuff about it was you don't realize how much superhuman hearing and stuff you have when you're on stage.
00:13:50.000So it's like you learn, but that for me in the beginning was like an issue.
00:13:54.000I remember emceeing clubs and thinking I was being sharp, you know, and people being like, we did not experience that same sensation you experienced.
00:14:02.000Well, learning how to relax, learning how to actually be yourself in front of all those people, it's fascinating to me.
00:14:07.000I have a buddy of mine who's thinking about doing stand-up now, and I've known him forever, and he's been working on his act.
00:15:10.000But it's going to be interesting to see, because the whole process of becoming so comfortable that you can relax while you're on stage in front of all those people, it's just so odd.
00:16:35.000I was gonna say something, but I was gonna throw somebody under the bus, but there's no need to.
00:16:41.000This whole journey of like going from like you started off as a comic and then you worked for The Daily Show for so long, and you kind of missed comedy, did comedy while you were doing it a little bit.
00:16:50.000Yeah, like I did a half hour special when I was at The Daily Show, but it was weak because I was putting 95% of my energy into The Daily Show.
00:21:32.000Because he just went fucking straight to Benghazi, he went straight to the email scandal, and he fucking hammered it constantly to the point where, you know, locker room talk aside, we could certainly say that was inappropriate, but let's get to the facts here, let's get to what's important.
00:21:46.000And just BAM! BAM! BAM! He's a big Trump ally.
00:21:54.000But, I mean, when that was going on against Obama, they were like, look, why the fuck are we having these people even, why are we even pretending they're press?
00:23:24.000I mean, I just still to this day I think that he's probably as far as like as a human being not not as like I hate presidential speeches because I hate I hate that whole political talk I hate the way people talk I know like they're not a real person and he is like the king of the pause man the big fake stupid artistic pause Well,
00:23:49.000I mean, he's just good at that kind of shit, and there's a thing to that.
00:25:02.000Obviously, the goal of Sean Hannity's show or AC360, any of these shows, is to get people to watch so they can sell ad time, so they can make money.
00:25:11.000So that's my issue with it more than...
00:27:04.000You need to be able to formulate your own opinions, and when you're being steered in one way or another, whether it's steered by Bill O'Reilly or steered by someone on the left, it's a...
00:27:13.000Who the fuck is, like, a big reporter for CNN? I don't even know anybody.
00:28:12.000Well, I would imagine that once you work for the CIA, you're in the fucking CIA. Yeah.
00:28:17.000Yeah, I imagine you always have a little contact.
00:28:19.000Yeah, I have a friend who used to be in the CIA, and I still consider him in the CIA. You know, I mean, I know another guy whose dad was in the CIA. He was a fucking dad still in the CIA, essentially.
00:28:30.000Well, you figure you gotta know a couple people over at the CIA. Like, I don't know, I don't have any CIA contacts, you know?
00:28:35.000It's like if you used to work there, you probably have a few.
00:28:36.000This is a shitty comparison, but if I left the UFC, I'd still be with the UFC. You know what I mean?
00:28:44.000There's a giant bond that you've got to have with the fucking Central Intelligence Agency.
00:28:50.000You know, you don't fuck with those guys.
00:29:03.000I don't know man, like all of those guys in the intelligence community, like they're the reasons we're safe.
00:29:08.000And when I say we're safe, I live in New York City, okay?
00:29:10.000So my attitude on terrorism is If you live in New York or a city, like, you know, I always take issue with people, and I travel doing stand-up, and, you know, I make a joke about ISIS or something, and people go, ooh, in small towns.
00:29:26.000And I go, it's amazing to me that, like, people in, like, Kentucky think that there's someone in a cave, like, we've got to get to Louisville.
00:30:03.000And it feels divided in the sense of like, we hate everything you guys are about, but we'll use that thing that impacted your lives as a way to gain our...
00:30:19.000So if you're talking about someone from, like, you know, a very conservative part of the country saying, we hate New York, because New York's the liberal elite.
00:30:24.000And then you say, oh, the terrorists hate New York, too.
00:30:28.000You should be on the side of the terrorists, you fucks.
00:30:46.000I got my news a lot from The Daily Show.
00:30:51.000When I would watch The Daily Show, I feel like Jon Stewart is obviously a very left-leaning guy, but he's also a very smart guy and a very funny guy.
00:31:00.000And when he would talk about events in the news and mock them and show clips and mock the clips, That, to me, is a way better version of what I would get.
00:31:08.000Like, I can discern what's a joke, I can discern how he's making fun, but then I will also get the actual information of these events from him as well.
00:31:17.000That, to me, is a way better version of news entertainment than what fucking CNN is doing.
00:31:21.000Because what CNN is doing is having what are essentially actors, like really boring people that are reading some stupid shit off a teleprompter.
00:31:28.000Like, you take fucking Anderson Cooper away from the news?
00:32:36.000I think it was just he felt like, and he said it on the last show.
00:32:39.000I wasn't there for the, I mean, I had stopped working there before he retired, but I think he just got to a point where he said, like, I'm not doing this at the level I could do it at anymore.
00:33:40.000When John came on and he was really a writer, producer, mind, there was definitely a sea change at the show of the original writers going like, Hey, buddy, don't ruin our little show.
00:33:52.000And he was like, I don't know if you understand how this is gonna work.
00:33:55.000You know, there was a little bit of...
00:34:16.000Yeah, and comedy writers are, like you said, there's definitely a thing with comedy writers where it's, we have this special, unique skill.
00:35:55.000I was like, oh, there's some weird ego shit going on here, where the writers didn't want to be replaced by some stand-up comic who was on it.
00:36:48.000Well, there's a lot of reasons I think it didn't work.
00:36:51.000Mainly, it takes a talk show a while to figure out what it is.
00:36:56.000If you watch the last six months of the show, we really started nailing it.
00:37:02.000We really had something special, and we figured it out.
00:37:05.000We got the groove down, we figured out what the acts were, the kind of stories we were tackling, and it takes that long.
00:37:12.000But in figuring that out, You know, Jon Stewart left The Daily Show, so our lead-in, and, you know, there's another new Trevor, but our lead-in was now a new host of the show.
00:37:23.000So I think the audience gave us a chance, which any audience would when we first aired, and the show wasn't quite there yet, as no show is, but they gave us a chance.
00:37:32.000And then when Jon left, I think they had already given us our chance.
00:37:39.000Like, meaning, within the show, by the time we made it good and really figured out what it was, the audience was like, ah, no, we already tried that show.
00:39:17.000We started to infuse what, for me, was my dream of comedy, which was the daily show topics with the Conan O'Brien absurdity.
00:39:26.000So we would do stuff like Like one of my favorites was when that San Bernardino shooting happened and they were trying to get in that guy's phone, Larry noticed it.
00:39:35.000Everyone in the news was going, we got to get backdoor access, backdoor access, backdoor access, backdoor access.
00:39:40.000So we did a bit where I was a backdoor access expert, you know, and it was like just a creepy dude in a basement with like a mustache and like a mesh shirt.
00:39:47.000And I was like, yeah, baby, you want to get in the back door, Larry?
00:39:49.000You can't come at it so hard, you know?
00:42:07.000We went to these places that you go down an alleyway, you pass a dumpster, you go through an unmarked door, and we're in this weird secret bar.
00:45:31.000I did the show Thursday, and then they did it, because I was showcasing my hour.
00:45:35.000So they created a show before your show.
00:45:38.000So I did my hour at like 6 o'clock or something, like early.
00:45:42.000Like they made an early show, which they had never done, and I was like, I'm like, I gotta showcase for somebody at like 6 o'clock, but man, that Club Comedy Works.
00:47:19.000You have to be consistently good there to stay.
00:47:22.000I've seen guys come and go at that place, and that place sometimes will drive a comic crazy, because they're so excited to be in, and then they panic.
00:47:36.000Every time I come in, they're like three tables further away.
00:47:38.000I'm like, you're getting further from the table.
00:47:39.000And then they're at Mahmood's, the falafel place next door.
00:47:42.000I'm like, you're not going to be working there anymore.
00:47:44.000That place, you know, drives people a little, can drive you a little crazy because you want to succeed there and you want to be a part of it and you want to be accepted.
00:47:52.000You know, and my first year or so in that place, I was like that for sure.
00:47:57.000You know, before I was like, okay, like I'm Well, in the 1980s, there was a bunch of communities all over the country.
00:50:15.000Once it's taped and I'm sitting at home and I go, everyone turn on, blah, blah, blah.
00:50:21.000This business always feels like you're one head of a network getting fired away from not having the thing you thought you were going to have.
00:50:27.000So I always try to be not only superstitious, but it looks like one way or the other I'll be taping my hair in the spring.
00:50:39.000Obviously, I wanted the show to be on for 10 years or 20 for everybody who worked there.
00:50:43.000But personally speaking, my goal with the nightly show was never to stay there as the executive producer forever.
00:50:48.000My goal was to launch it, get it going, sort of, you know, teach everyone how to do it because it was the daily show model that we were, you know, and I know how to do that very well.
00:50:56.000And then my hope was I would just be on the show and like slowly relinquish my authority of like running it to other people so I could work from like noon to three and then just do stand up.
00:52:11.000And all you need now is a room with a camera.
00:52:15.000I mean, that's literally all you need is the space to film whatever you're filming, the budget to afford cameras, and the ability to stream and upload things.
00:52:23.000Yeah, you just need a little venture capital.
00:53:46.000Yeah, Nick's just came out on CISO. And CISO, you know, I mean, it is a branch of NBC, but they're uncensored, and they're doing great stuff, you know?
00:55:10.000I mean, it's definitely a lot of people, but it is definitely, I mean, it's growing constantly.
00:55:14.000Netflix is a goddamn snowball rolling down the mountainside.
00:55:16.000Netflix has completely revolutionized and reinvigorated this whole entertainment industry.
00:55:21.000I mean, I went and met with those guys while I was out here, because I've been out here for like a month, and, uh, You want to talk about the difference of, you take a meeting at, like, a Viacom-type place versus, like, a Netflix-type place.
00:55:32.000Like, Netflix, it's like, they just moved into a new office building.
01:00:39.000All I know is there's a scene where he's running in a field and he's panicking and the only thing that's happening is grass is blowing.
01:00:45.000Meanwhile, if nature wanted to, have you ever seen some of those giant storm clouds that they photograph over the, like, Kansas cornfields and shit that are as big as cities?
01:01:06.000People are always trying to find some new hook.
01:01:09.000Like the village where these people, they think that it's 1612, but it's really 2015. And they're living in the middle of a place where they're not allowed to fly planes.
01:02:28.000Some comics have one great special, and then they, like, I'm a huge Kinison fan, but I always point out to him, he's the best example of a guy who came out of the gate, like, with the greatest of all time, or one of the greatest of all time.
01:02:41.000I think Pryor's the greatest of all time.
01:02:42.000But Kinison's right up there, like, number two.
01:02:45.000It's funny, because people don't bring him up in those conversations enough.
01:02:47.000Yeah, I'm saying, when you have the who's the best conversation about stand-up, Kinison's name isn't even, like...
01:02:53.000Yeah, they go with Carlin, and all due respect, I just don't think they're comparable.
01:02:57.000Carlin is a great comic, and his body of work is fantastic, and he just did a new hour every year for decades, but he had a lot of duds.
01:03:29.000No, he's got fantastic work, don't get me wrong, but it's not as funny as Kinnison's best work.
01:03:35.000Kinnison's best work, when he was doing that bit about the homosexual necrophiliacs that were paying money to spend a few hours undisturbed with the freshest male corpses...
01:06:09.000And it kind of made me, I was inspired.
01:06:11.000I was like, couldn't you guys just be with me all the time?
01:06:14.000Because you're 26, and you're funny, and you're talented, and you know how to shoot and edit, and everything they shoot looks good, and they still have energy.
01:06:21.000And also, ten years ago, they were in high school.
01:08:15.000They were so desperate for, like, it to feel, and I was like, you're going to have the loudest, most unshootable show if you go find a loft in Soho, and you just wire it with lights.
01:08:36.000How about we just get Starbucks and go to a studio?
01:08:39.000Why would you want to go to Starbucks?
01:08:40.000So you want to take the chance at people next to you having arguments with their agent on the phone or screaming at their dog walker or whatever.
01:08:56.000But everybody wants to do something crafty and creative and different, you know?
01:09:00.000Yeah, I mean, I always think, I find that, too, with stand-ups, a lot of times, younger stand-ups will say, like, I'm really trying to be outside the box.
01:09:15.000Like, in other words, you gotta, like, start with some sort of basic skill set before you're like, now let's, you know, like, start a podcast.
01:09:25.000Yeah, I'm not saying I'm a fan of his.
01:09:28.000I'm just saying He was a painter before he started splattering shit.
01:09:32.000Well, I watched that movie, the Ed Harris movie, and I was like, okay, well, there's nothing exceptional here going on.
01:09:38.000Like, this guy's throwing paint around, and I'm watching a movie about a guy throwing paint around, and he's got some trials and tribulations.
01:11:20.000And people get so upset if you don't like what they like.
01:11:25.000I've talked about Jackson Pollock before, and you get these Jackson Pollock fans and believers, and they're like, you don't understand the layers of paint and the way his vision was manifested onto the canvas.
01:11:41.000That sounds like the aliens from Galaxy Quest.
01:11:54.000When a dude goes to the hospital and they find that he has, like, intestinal worms, and they pull them all out onto the operating table, that's what it looks like.
01:12:00.000Those are, like, white intestinal worms.
01:15:47.000Like, I'm going to San Antonio in two weeks, and I'm like, it's gonna be fun, but there's definitely, like, a chunk of my act, and I'm like, there's gonna be dudes in cowboy hats, like, there's a Jew on stage talking about Jesus, like, I don't like it.
01:15:56.000And I'm gonna be like, uh-huh, I gotta go out the back door.
01:18:08.000Protect that significant business and also trying to justify the baby dicks They've cut in the past so if they have three sons and they've cut all the sons dicks They're like well, it's really important to prevent AIDS. Let me tell you something if you're gonna get AIDS You're not gonna get it from having a dirty foreskin, okay?
01:18:25.000There's no no one's getting AIDS from dirty force I don't know anything about the diseases, but I do know that uh Just as a guy who wears button flies, it would be nice to have one more layer protecting my penis from just smacking around my jeans.
01:18:37.000Well, how about underwear, you weirdo?
01:18:39.000Yeah, well, I do wear underwear, but it doesn't matter.
01:23:11.000So, in Canada, you're supposed to use the term Inuit.
01:23:14.000In Alaska, you can still use the term Eskimo, and they want you to use it, because it does not refer to a certain type of native person that lives up there.
01:23:23.000Those are fucking, those are the real natives, man.
01:23:25.000I mean, if you really think about it, those are the people that, not only did they cross the Bering Strait, but they fucking stayed in the cold spot.
01:23:37.000Those people don't have any access to vegetables, and yet they lived almost entirely free of cancer until we started importing cigarettes and booze up there.
01:23:45.000Yeah, they had incredibly low instances of cancer, and what they're basically living off is fat.
01:23:52.000They're living off seal fat, and they would take seals, and they would take frozen fish, and they would dip frozen fish in hot seal oil and eat the frozen fish.
01:24:01.000So they'd take a frozen fish, and they would slice...
01:24:04.000Almost like carpaccio, thin pieces of this frozen fish, and then dip it in seal oil.
01:24:09.000And that's how they, to this day, that's how they...
01:24:38.000See, that's a common misconception, and it's one of the things we've addressed ad nauseum on the show, unfortunately, but I'll give you the short version of fats versus carbohydrates.
01:24:48.000In the 1950s, the sugar industry paid scientists to write about saturated fat and to blame saturated fat for heart disease and heart attacks.
01:25:13.000That's where people develop hardening of the arteries and fucking clog this and that, along with genetics and a lot of other things.
01:25:21.000Saturated fats become dangerous is when you mix saturated fats with sugars.
01:25:26.000Saturated fats and sugars together somehow or another accentuate like, you know, like fried foods and sugary food, like sugary drinks, like And fried chicken and deep-fried fatty things.
01:25:40.000That's where things get really dangerous, apparently.
01:25:42.000And this is a recent study that connected saturated fat mixed with simple sugars and processed sugars as being especially dangerous, but on their own.
01:25:54.000Saturated fats are the precursors for hormones.
01:25:57.000And in fact, a diet high in saturated fats and cholesterol actually raises your hormone levels and it's healthier for your body.
01:26:04.000Not only that, saturated fat and dietary cholesterol in particular, food you eat, cholesterol from food, doesn't raise your blood cholesterol at all.
01:26:13.000It barely moves the needle on blood lipids.
01:29:18.000You can find these little spots where you can get real authentic food from people that came from there and say, look, this is what we miss.
01:29:26.000So we're going to set up shop here and just make it a little India.
01:30:30.000The only food resources you can get in China, like you said, supermarkets that have You've never seen anything in the store before, because you're not from China.
01:31:20.000I think Quebec, they're clinging strong to their French heritage, which I completely understand, because they have a long history of French-speaking people living in Quebec.
01:33:10.000So a fucking snake ate a snake its own size and he filmed the one snake that tried to eat it dying and then the other one wiggles out of its fucking body.
01:35:19.000It's like, what is going on in that part of the world?
01:35:23.000And what's really fascinating about that part of the world is they didn't really have animals there, other than kangaroos and fucking wallabies and shit.
01:35:30.000There's a lot of the animals that they have there were imported.
01:35:33.000Well, they're also one of those countries that did that thing where they were being overrun by a certain plant, and then they put rabbits out there to eat the plant, and then the rabbits went rampant, and then they put wolves to get the- Well, then they brought foxes.
01:35:44.000Yeah, foxes to get the rabbits- And the foxes fucked them up, and then they bring cats, feral cats.
01:35:49.000Like, they tried to fix shit, you know?
01:35:51.000And they made a disaster out of the place.
01:35:53.000Did you hear about that thing on the Galapagos Islands with the goats?
01:37:32.000I get it, though, because this is the Wild Wild West.
01:37:35.000I mean, we have a lot of websites that are taking our clips from this podcast, and they put it up, and then they put advertisers on it, and then they make money off of it.
01:37:42.000And then they're making money off of it.
01:37:43.000It's really weird right now because they're trying to figure out what's legal and what's not legal to do.
01:37:48.000There's entire channels that are just dedicated to this podcast, and then they take clips from this podcast, and they make money off of it.
01:40:10.000Well, once they make a deal with networks like that, man, fucking A. But that's really interesting for all those people like the PewDiePie's and the Philip DeFranco's and all these people that have shows on YouTube.
01:40:21.000It's going to blow them up even bigger because they're essentially now on a network.
01:40:24.000Because the network is just as well connected as Jimmy Kimmel is now.
01:40:30.000Right, so in other words, you're watching Colbert on YouTube, and then the next thing that comes up is the Rory Albanese show.
01:40:34.000You're fucking sitting there smoking weed in your underwear, your girl's underwear.
01:41:22.000It was me, Bill Burr, Doug Stanhope, Burt Kreischer, a bunch of people, and we were on stage in the comedy store the moment that weed passed, recreational weed passed in California, and Burt Kreischer takes his shirt off, and he's swinging his shirt in front of the crowd, and the whole crowd's got their arms up in the air,
01:44:20.000They were hiring mercenaries to fucking carry the cash around.
01:44:23.000So they have these, you know, former Navy Seals and shit, carrying fucking M16s, walking around with bags of cash and worried about being robbed.
01:50:08.000But you do have to kill some of those.
01:50:10.000There is an issue in North America where they have too many grizzly bears in certain areas, like in Alaska, you actually have to kill a certain amount of them in order to keep the moose population stable because the bears eat all the moose calves.
01:50:22.000What are you assuming that that's the place he's- That's a brown bear.
01:50:24.000No, that's definitely a brown bear and that looks like Alaska.
01:50:28.000Well, most places that you kill brown bears, if it is legal, if he's killing that bear legally, which I assume it is because he's taking a photo of it, You spend so much money to kill those things, and that money directly goes to conservation.
01:50:41.000It's a real catch-22, because the only reason why those things are alive and exist in high populations and aren't decimated, and then their wildlife habitat is protected, especially protecting habitat and wetlands for birds, for migrating birds, all that stuff comes from conservation money,
01:51:27.000Not only that, 2 million car accidents in the United States every year.
01:51:31.000Excuse me, 1.5 million car accidents in the United States every year from people hitting deer, and 200 people die because of accidents involving people hitting deer with cars.
01:51:41.000And unless you want to bring in wolves and mountain lions and overpopulate the suburbs with them, You're gonna have a problem with deer populations unless you have hunters.
01:52:16.000It's real sketchy stuff because in Africa, there's a great documentary that Louis Theroux did about African hunting farms, these wildlife sanctuaries that they have in Africa where they just hunt on them, these big high fence operations.
01:52:31.000Africa was on the verge, these animals were on the verge of extinction just a few decades ago.
01:52:35.000And now they're thriving in unheard of populations.
01:52:38.000But it's only because people are paying to go over there and hunt them.
01:52:48.000Most of the time you think of poaching, you think, well, poachers are bad because poachers are the people that are killing elephants for their ivory.
01:52:54.000They're killing rhinos for their horns.
01:52:55.000But a lot of what poaching is is poor people that are just trying to eat.
01:53:03.000So if someone's killing, like, a black buck or something like that, one of the game animals that they have that they eat, They're shooting at these people.
01:53:11.000They're shooting at them, killing them left and right.
01:57:09.000Yeah, where I grew up, we didn't cut any necks, you know?
01:57:13.000I've thought about doing a show where I take people hunting that I've never hunted, like maybe comics, but I just don't think it's the right way to approach hunting.
01:57:21.000I just think it's too confusing, it's too dark, and it's also...
01:57:26.000It would make hunting a spectacle to me versus what it is now.
01:57:31.000If I went with you and I went with people who knew what they were doing, I would do it, I guess.