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00:00:25.000We just got back from a wild pig hunt, ladies and gentlemen.
00:00:29.000So if you're super not into killing animals, super not into eating animals, or hearing people talk about eating animals, now's definitely the time to shut this one off.
00:01:48.000Like the idea that you could just take that white plastic wrapper, rip it open, and that chocolatey, delicious hockey puck with the cream inside of it was there.
00:01:56.000Oh, you didn't give a fuck about your health.
00:01:58.000You're like, I'm going to eat this thing right now.
00:03:09.000I've always wondered, when people enjoy something that's really strange, like in Iceland, they have this really bizarre pickled shark that is supposed to be atrocious for everybody but people from Iceland.
00:05:20.000She's like, Oh my god, that's disgusting.
00:05:22.000While she says that, she didn't have her glasses on, she literally pushes cherry coke and she filled her cup with cherry coke.
00:05:29.000So Sharon and I kind of just looked at each other and did this.
00:05:32.000We went back and sat down and she was like, she went through her coke like that.
00:05:37.000So she was just staring, she didn't know it was cherry coke?
00:05:40.000No, when we were doing it, she asked because she saw the red, but when she did it, she didn't have her glasses, so she selected that one anyway.
00:05:49.000So yeah, about halfway through the meal, she's like, oh, isn't that Coke just so good here?
00:06:21.000It's probably people have done it poorly, and then you get that weird prejudice that a lot of people have of it being gamey, quote-unquote gamey.
00:09:08.000Was based on this crazy guy who also coincidentally is the guy who campaigned to make weed illegal He was the guy that owned Hearst Publications and so he he had this idea in his head This is the story was that hemp they started to make paper out of hemp and he was threatened There was like a popular science magazine said hemp the new billion-dollar crop Because he owned like these fields of hemp,
00:09:36.000or excuse me, these fields of trees that they used to make paper out of.
00:09:40.000He owned paper mills, and he owned newspaper.
00:09:42.000So apparently his fear was, in converting everything to paper, he would lose millions of dollars on all his traditional trees that they used for paper.
00:09:51.000So he started printing stories about marijuana being this terrible thing, and that Mexicans and black men are raping white women, and people went, what the fuck is this possible?
00:10:02.000And so they made the prohibition on marijuana, and it happened directly as a result—that's the conspiracy theory—of him wanting to stop a competitor in the paper business.
00:10:15.000So it's so hilarious that this one crazy fuck also brought over a bunch of wild boars and just let them run loose so he could shoot them.
00:11:37.000Their family had never been around hunting.
00:11:39.000So when they came here, it was a whole new perspective of How many wild animals are one in society?
00:11:48.000We almost hit several with our car when we lived in Wisconsin, and then they just started, you know, they would just destroy any hopes of a garden that we would have.
00:11:57.000So Sharon started going out and filming me on some hunts, and one time we were on a hunt in Illinois, and this doe comes running in, her tongue's hanging out, Three bucks come behind her, and these bucks are like, she's literally trapped between three bucks,
00:12:27.000One buck came in, kind of, you know, ended up kind of scooting her with his horns, and then they were just running and ragging, and Sharon's like...
00:12:51.000When she watched it, she said, so, she goes, if I were to get into deer hunting, because at that time the only thing she had shot was a turkey, and then she hunted a wild hog.
00:13:05.000And she goes, so if I go hunting for deer and I decide to do it, she goes, I would only want a buck.
00:13:25.000She goes, that is like your friend at the bar, and she went up to get two of you drinks, and now there's three dudes that will not leave you alone, and you can't get back to your normal life.
00:13:38.000And she's like, I feel like I'd be helping a sister out.
00:13:40.000I'm like, yep, that's what you'd be doing.
00:13:43.000I don't think people who live in cities have any idea of how many deer there are now.
00:13:48.000If they went through Iowa, like people who went through your area, they would be like, what the fuck?
00:13:54.000It's like every mile or so you're seeing these packs of deer.
00:13:59.000Well, how many just ones did you see on the side of the road that people had struck?
00:15:30.000A book to try to introduce some people in Europe to bow hunting.
00:15:37.000I wasn't trying to get it necessarily legalized.
00:15:41.000I was just trying to give information on why hunting in the U.S., Is something that people at least need to keep an open mind to on why it's necessary.
00:15:52.000And I was trying to write a book and granted, for those of you who are listening, who aren't familiar with Joe and I, our relationship, I shot competitively for a long time.
00:17:44.000But some places where they get away from, like, a ranch environment, which is kind of ironic, Because, like, in some places like San Jose, which have never had a problem with wildlife at all, other than the occasional deer, they're getting wild pigs.
00:18:30.000But once they go out into the wild and there isn't a family that's utilizing that, you know, small batch of hogs or chickens or whatever it is, then they just go crazy.
00:18:54.000You know, they have like that bad reputation.
00:18:57.000Because, you know, when someone calls someone a pig, like if you call a person a pig, it's like one of the worst things you can say to a person.
00:19:51.000I guess if I was the big guy, that was actually just kind of soft.
00:19:54.000Which one would freak you out the most of primates?
00:19:57.000Well, I was going to give you a silverback, but now that you say that, I would say if I had to fear one thing of the primates, I don't know.
00:20:30.000I have so much respect for grizzlies, you know, and brown bears, and then I see something like a silverback and the strength of those things, and I think...
00:20:39.000If this was a society where everything fought for its turf and those two met, I mean...
00:20:46.000What's interesting is there used to be bigger and bigger animals than them.
00:22:17.000That thing, that short-faced bear, there's this guy named Dan Flores, and he believes that that short-faced bear, and apparently a bunch of other people that studied the migration of people into North America, they believe that short-faced bear might have been one of the barriers.
00:22:33.000And it was so ferocious and so fierce.
00:22:35.000Could you imagine if you were a dude and his family and you're walking from Asia to the United States and you see one of those motherfucker of motherfucker bears?
00:22:48.000You'd be like, what in the fuck am I doing here?
00:26:29.000If I was a kid and I went through the woods with my buddies and we encountered a short-faced bear and ate one of my friends, just right in front of you, you'd be like, that's a monster!
00:27:10.000I can't believe how close we got to those pigs.
00:27:12.000Some rogue and experienced follower that's a genetic specialist is probably going to construct one of those suckers just so you don't hunt anymore.
00:27:39.000And Steve Rinella, my good friend and the host of the amazing podcast Meat Eater and television show Meat Eater, they were on this hunt, and they got charged by these grizzlies.
00:28:42.000I think if one was within 20 yards and then started, like, with full intent to come, I think you would think about turning and you would get maybe two strides.
00:28:54.000And that thing's giving you the Leonardo DiCaprio.
00:31:06.000We were there and a guy had a membership out there and had his camper there, totally kept to himself.
00:31:11.000And on his last day when he was coming out, he saw us and he's like, hey dudes, I've been on this really cool big red boar that I saw and, you know, literally told us like, go up here, turn here, go here.
00:31:25.000I mean, the guy was like genuinely helpful to another hunter and, you know, that...
00:31:31.000100% is what we need in society really.
00:31:34.000We need everyone to just like help one another out when it's possible.
00:31:37.000I mean you're gonna have pettiness in every single group of humans, but I think overall the tone that I've experienced from people that are involved in hunting Very helpful, very respectful.
00:31:49.000But I think that they have, by being in nature and experiencing these life and death moments in nature, I think it addresses a certain part of them and their place in the food chain that almost like calms an internal aspect of people that are involved in it.
00:32:06.000Because the real struggle, the life and death struggle of consuming meat, Is undeniable.
00:33:08.000Like, if you cooked an elk roast, which, I mean, it's not even fair that I'm bringing this up because we did it the first night I came in, but if you cooked an elk roast and you didn't eat it all, would you dump that into the trash?
00:35:26.000The best thing I did was went down, on your recommendation, I flew down to the Onnit Academy and met all those guys and spent, I think, two days in there.
00:35:37.000And just said, I want to do everything.
00:35:38.000Show me the maze, show me kettlebells, you know, I did some stuff on rings, did some stuff on bungee straps, and it's all, I mean, and you see people that have conditioned, they've worked out that way, and something real simple, and then you have someone that's,
00:36:20.000Only certain types of weights that most people do.
00:36:23.000When I met Frank Zane years ago and I went and trained with him on my weight training, specifically on free weights, I felt like I had wasted...
00:37:02.000I'm like, I wish when I was in high school, my football coach would have been having people do windmills.
00:37:07.000Because they're talking about how, you know, you go to wrestling practice, everyone's talking about how important it is to be solid.
00:37:13.000But everything was like bench, squat, deadlift.
00:37:17.000I mean, things like what we just talked about with a windmill, it's totally different.
00:37:21.000I think bench squat deadlift is still the kings, but I just think that people get a little bit...
00:37:26.000It is the kings for total mass, right?
00:37:28.000People get a little caught up in the numbers, and to the point where they're willing to ignore the form, and I think that's where a lot of people get hurt.
00:37:36.000It's like a real problem with people being a little bit too macho, and I've fucking absolutely been guilty of that.
00:37:43.000Where I was lifting way too much weight.
00:38:17.000They had Brock Lesnar versus Shane Carr when it was like a big heavyweight fight because it was two super powerful, really dangerous wrestlers.
00:38:25.000When you look at the combine scores, you realize what a freak Brock Lesnar is.
00:38:33.000It's a straight Viking DNA from the motherland.
00:38:38.000If I was a little guy coming from Asia with my whole family and I had to walk up to that dude, I would think the same thing as a short-faced bear.
00:38:45.000I'd be like, wait, I have to go by that flat top?
00:39:30.000And one of the weird things that I experienced this weekend and I've experienced before while wild pig hunting is it's almost like you see something that other people are not seeing.
00:39:41.000It's like, where you look at it, you go, hey, this could be a giant problem.
00:40:13.000But seriously, though, why don't we do that?
00:40:17.000I wonder if we have like a food bank or something to where, you know, if we're out for the places giving food to the homeless, why aren't we out doing some aporkalypses?
00:40:28.000And bringing in some serious pork chops for people.
00:40:32.000Get Chad out there from Whiskey Bent BBQ. Get him doing some pulled pork butts at the homeless shelters.
00:41:50.000Because he's a real old-school farmer, but really smart.
00:41:53.000And what he realized somewhere along the line is that these animals are only happy when they're living like animals, and you get better product from them.
00:42:22.000You're going to grow better grass everywhere they took a dump.
00:42:26.000So he does that with his chickens, too.
00:42:27.000He has this gigantic mobile chicken unit, and he pushes this thing around, and he lets these chickens out, and they all run around, and they do chicken shit, and they go back up into their little houses when it gets dark out.
00:42:40.000It's really, really interesting, man, because it's less of a disconnect, and some people are uncomfortable with there being less of a disconnect.
00:42:50.000Some people like to just get a chicken sandwich.
00:42:52.000I don't know how the fuck you got in that sandwich, but thanks, dude, here's your five bucks, gotta go.
00:42:56.000And then there's other people that go, okay, what is a chicken?
00:42:59.000It's a little cunty dinosaur thing that's just...
00:43:02.000Still around and wants to eat your kids.
00:44:58.000Listen, we've got a real problem with these genetic engineers.
00:45:01.000All these, like, super geeks out there.
00:45:03.000If one of those assholes decides to recreate one of these things and keep it around, like William Randolph Hearst, the year 2017, if that dickhead just brings, instead of bringing around wild hogs, he brings around terror birds.
00:49:27.000And I think there's a problem when someone believes something, and then someone else doesn't believe what they believe, and then on both sides there's an issue.
00:49:36.000Because the side that believes that they're right, the side of the astronomers and the astrophysicists, we get angry.
00:49:43.000We get angry at people that believe something other than what we are pretty sure to be true.
00:49:48.000So you start making it into a personal thing, and it's stupid.
00:49:51.000And I think that's part of the problem is that people get invested in their ideas.
00:49:55.000You get invested in the idea of Bigfoot.
00:49:57.000I was fucking 100% over-invested in the idea of Bigfoot.
00:50:01.000I was super helpful, or hopeful rather.
00:50:04.000Every time I would see a news story about Bigfoot, please let this be the one.
00:53:07.000Dude, I was telling Jamie, I think I've told you this story, I've probably told it to everybody I've met, that I have a little baby chimp on the set of news radio, like way back in the day.
00:53:31.000No, he got on top of me, just hit me a couple times on the back, and I was like, what in the fuck?
00:53:37.000I just was thinking, immediately I started doing the math in my head, and thinking what it would be like to be confronted by a full-grown chimp.
00:53:45.000Okay, well that's my argument with the Silverback vs.
00:59:46.000You were walking your dogs and this big ass cat, it was like a 120 pound plus cat.
00:59:52.000So the actual cat that had a collar, he knew that's the one he encountered?
00:59:55.000Yeah, he saw the collar, and then he went on the website, and you can track, because he'd found out that this cat had died, and when he found out the cat died, he went and, oh, the sound of whiskey.
01:00:36.000Is one of the most super, super freak, predator, animal, freak-out things.
01:00:42.000Like, if a bear was little, like a nine-pound bear, like the size of a nine-pound rat was trying to kill you, you'd be freaking the fuck out.
01:00:49.000If it was running at you, like a little tiny bear, you'd be fucking terrified!
01:00:53.000Now think of a giant one and realize how you are totally defenseless.
01:00:58.000And I don't think it's going to be that much difference for a gorilla.
01:01:02.000I literally think of a silverback gorilla with the way they're built and they swing around.
01:01:07.000I think if he stood on the chest of a grizzly he could grab its paws and literally rip its arms out and beat it with it.
01:01:55.000There's just a lot of people that have argued this on the internet for the last five to ten years.
01:01:58.000We get dangerously close to this argument.
01:02:00.000Seriously, why don't they put Thor's hammer on the ground and put a taco in it or something to where a grizzly has to try to grab it and pull it off and have a sensor versus the silverback?
01:02:13.000Well, the grizzly definitely can't grab as hard because he doesn't have thumbs like we talked about.
01:02:17.000Yeah, but that's relative to a beating.
01:04:51.000I asked you what you thought of him because a big part of me knowing that I'm teaching the right way is once my students are able to identify when I'm not there, I think that's a very important thing that coaches miss.
01:05:08.000They want the student dependent on you being there all the time.
01:05:13.000They want to go with you to the tournament.
01:05:15.000They want to go with you to the UFC fight, whatever.
01:05:20.000But the reality is, like with me personally, thankfully, if I agree to work with someone...
01:05:28.000The reality is, I don't get to see you every week.
01:05:31.000A lot of the people that I work with, I pick because I enjoy working with them.
01:05:36.000But I want you to be able to help yourself when I'm not there.
01:05:42.000You and I only get to see each other every three months, maybe.
01:05:46.000So, if I'm not able to be there seeing you shooting for three months, Am I a good coach because you're, you know, for whatever, 89 days, you're wondering if you're doing it right?
01:05:59.000So when I asked you that, it was for a reason because I thought, if you ever called me and said, am I doing something wrong, I could be able to say, well, have you take a picture and look.
01:06:11.000Because hopefully we've worked on the same things enough to where you're able to identify, I want you to be able to tell me what you're doing wrong.
01:06:22.000I don't want my students to be dependent on me.
01:06:28.000I want to push myself because I'm wondering, do you know as much as I do right now?
01:06:35.000And can I take this to another level where I introduce you to something new?
01:06:38.000Well, you know, this is something that I've experienced in a big way with jujitsu, that the very best coaches, not only do they not hold anything back, but they encourage their students to be as good as them or better.
01:06:56.000Like my friend Eddie Bravo is a perfect example of that.
01:06:59.000He has this whole team of top killers.
01:07:04.000He's really put together this fascinating style and now has incorporated all these leg locks into it, this fascinating style of jiu-jitsu, and openly encourages any new moves, explores them, gives everyone credit,
01:07:19.000and they're all battling it out, trying to come up with the best method.
01:07:25.000And the only way to do that is to encourage growth, to not be afraid of competition, to embrace losing to your students or getting tapped by your students.
01:07:56.000And when you do that, all you're concentrating on is the growth and the improvement of the art, the actual art of jiu-jitsu.
01:08:01.000And I think the same could be said for archery.
01:08:03.000You're not trying to hold anything back.
01:08:05.000You're trying to put it into someone's head so they could do the very best job they can at minimizing all the things that can go wrong, tune everything right, and then you'll know what you're doing.
01:08:33.000I'm sorry every 10th planet jiu-jitsu guy.
01:08:36.000Dwayne Ludwig actually used that in a fight.
01:08:39.000Dwayne Bang Ludwig is such a motherfucker, he was beating this dude up, and in the middle of beating, it was in the King of the Cage, in the middle of beating the dude up, he goes into the crane kick, and this was when Dwayne Ludwig, he's still a motherfucker, don't get me wrong, but this was when Dwayne Ludwig was a young, buck wild motherfucker,
01:09:52.000He was like on another level back then compared to a good percentage of the people that fought in MMA. Like, the kid he's fighting is wearing shoes, okay?
01:10:39.000You don't have any BRB? We're talking about bouncy road boners.
01:10:44.000There is something that happens to a man when he's in a car that's going down a bouncy road for too long when he's like, what is this rod in my pants?
01:12:15.000She told her husband to put Borat on, and when he put it on, I don't know if when he put the CD on, if it started up where they stopped before, but it was literally when Borat was like 69 and that fat guy in the bed, and she's like,
01:12:31.000no, just wait, it's really good, and we're just sitting there like...
01:14:18.000I went from seeing him in a normal suit, I guess it would be a jacket and a nice white shirt, to being in the Borat, like, suspender outfit.
01:14:29.000I would say that was normal, and that was on the extreme side.
01:15:43.000Like, he got sued by those young kids that he had on, like, where they were saying, would they say something that was racially inappropriate or something along those lines?
01:16:27.000Because you're very advanced for an archer.
01:16:31.000I don't think it's worth not giving credit to you for that.
01:16:34.000Well, I'm only advanced because of you, dude, and because of Cameron Haynes.
01:16:37.000Cameron Haynes for introducing it to me, you for tightening everything up and taking the time to...
01:16:43.000I mean, when you have a guy who's an Olympic coach in archery, and to get someone like you for a dork like me who just gets into it, you know, is really fascinated by it.
01:16:51.000I feel very fortunate to be your friend, because you've taught me some stuff that's changed, like probably taken not just years off of my progress, but changed it.
01:17:02.000So, like, it didn't matter, like, five years down the road, I might be better at doing it wrong to the point where I kind of have my brain calculated how to do it.
01:17:09.000I've practiced it enough so I can do it wrong and still get away with it.
01:18:43.000Many of those years competitively and you still practice it every day.
01:18:46.000That's one of the most important things.
01:18:48.000Well, I've competed, I've competed, let's see, I've competed, let's say I've competed 25 years.
01:18:57.000But the only reason I competed was because I wanted to make sure that when I was hunting, I was proficient as a hunter.
01:19:06.000That's the only reason I started competing was I wanted to make sure that, you know, I remember going out the first time as a hunter and finally having an opportunity and then missing, and I think I was a lot like you, When you got into it and you realize this is something I'm really into, you're like, okay,
01:19:34.000I want this to be something I'm cool with.
01:19:38.000And then I want to be able to enjoy the benefits of it.
01:19:41.000So that's why I started competing was...
01:19:45.000I actually went to my first archery tournament based on a sign on the road.
01:19:51.000I was driving down the road and I saw a sign that said, and for those of you who are listening, there's actually a cool little documentary that Hoyt did.
01:20:03.000Yeah, you were part of that whole program.
01:20:07.000Yeah, if someone's listening and they kind of want to see my background and know how Joe and I came together, the I Am Defiant video from Hoyt is really good.
01:20:19.000You can find it on YouTube, but You know, I was supposed to play college football, and I was a bow hunter, but I wasn't very good at it.
01:20:28.000I didn't have anyone that really taught me how to do it.
01:20:44.000I lost all my arrows before I'd finished because I was so bad at shooting.
01:20:50.000And being a person that was really wanting to play college football, that was like the first time I really felt defeat and just the competitive...
01:21:02.000Driving me is like I have to do this right So the people that won that tournament all of them had these shirts on that had the name of the shop So the next day I was in that shop and I was just watching these people shooting and started asking questions and I realized that My self-taught or family-taught way was just a way to get in.
01:21:25.000But then it just got so much more diverse.
01:22:33.000Cameron Haynes is one of the greatest bull hunters in the history of human beings, right?
01:22:36.000So just becoming friends with him is amazing, and I should probably just follow his lead, right?
01:22:40.000But my thought is, I know that that works, and I know that works for him, but I know that there's certain things that work for me that don't work for my friends.
01:22:48.000Like, I have friends that won't do yoga.
01:23:23.000Everything just sort of relaxes and sort of gives.
01:23:27.000You know, like, there's, like, tight areas in your back.
01:23:30.000Besides, like, the mental properties, the things you can do mentally, one of the big things it does is all the magnesium gets inside your muscles, and it's like a massive Epsom salt bath.
01:25:58.000I'd say weights, but then heart rate is relative to cardio too.
01:26:04.000But I just feel like your ability to maintain posture is really relative to yoga.
01:26:15.000So like when I was stalking, one thing that you did...
01:26:20.000That when I was filming and I stayed back just for sound, I stayed back and let you do your thing.
01:26:26.000I wished I was the guide at that point where I could tell you, because you were behind the guide so you didn't really know what you were doing, but I was really wishing I could say like...
01:26:36.000Your bow, instead of being sideways, where it's easiest to carry, it needs to be at the ready.
01:26:42.000And everything you did needed to be...
01:26:46.000Maybe it's your martial arts background, but you were...
01:28:24.000That'll definitely give you some calluses.
01:28:27.000For a lot of people, I think a very neglective movement, and I heard this on your podcast, and I called you and I'm like, dude, I do those.
01:30:08.000And then when I was too ignorant to know that it was a frozen shoulder and I forced myself to talk myself into the fact it wasn't a rotator, Then it went back in and that noise,
01:30:32.000So the guy said, by the way the injury, like the way the inside tissue looked, he goes, it looks like your shoulder was disconnected, dislocated.
01:31:44.000Some bears have very short tempers, and they're, you know, they're total, like, snap, spazzes, like Jim Miller, just instantly snaps on you and freaks out.
01:33:09.000Well, that's hard to argue, honestly, because he's lost to some of the best guys, and there's still Tony Ferguson, there's still Habib Nurmagomedov.
01:33:27.000That was the first fight that I ever watched, and I remember the first UFC fights, but that was the first time I ever watched one where I felt...
01:33:37.000I had vestment in someone, and I knew Jim was fighting for, was that 208?
01:33:45.000Because I saw him fight at 200, and he stood on the cage, and then, because I was sitting right behind you, and he said, let's go hunting!
01:36:11.000Someone's gonna take that out of context, right?
01:36:13.000Yeah, that'll be a front page of the news.
01:36:16.000I would assume if people came from lower primates, right, if human beings came from lower primates, which they think we did, like, it couldn't have been a totally even process.
01:36:25.000You know, there's people, like, I have always wondered Like, what is the ultimate form of the human being?
01:36:34.000If we came from some sort of a hominid, some sort of an Australopithecus monkey thing, and became what we are now, right?
01:36:42.000What the hell are we going to be two million years from now?
01:39:09.000There's fundamentals to pool that mirror.
01:39:12.000They don't mirror the consequences or the actions of archery, but they mirror the mindset and the proper form and the proper delivery.
01:39:24.000With the minimal amount of like variables, like muscle movement or torquing of the hand or all those things, it's very similar in pool.
01:39:33.000Like when you get really good at pool, and I'm definitely not really good, but when you get to a certain level, the people that are really good, they get this, well, it's like I used to play eight to ten hours a day, like all the time.
01:39:57.000But I learned how to get, I got better and better, and if I played for many, many hours in a row, I'd start getting loose, and I could run some racks sometimes.
01:40:11.000It's like I knew that the less control I had of it, the more I could let the cue do the work, and I had it tuned into my mind, and it was all about being in the correct stance, making sure that you come through the ball perfectly, meaning the delivery of the stroke, where it's just this natural, smooth motion.
01:40:28.000And if you do that, you get to this state they call dead punch, or you get into dead stroke.
01:40:35.000Like some guys call it dead punch, some guys call it dead stroke, but when you're in dead stroke, you can't miss.
01:40:44.000You see when you know that when you release the cue, when you let that cue go forward, that tip is going to smoothly strike the cue ball and it's going to collide perfectly with the ball that you were aiming at.
01:40:55.000It's going to go to the center of the pocket and it's going to roll to perfect position.
01:40:58.000You might only be able to do that like a game or two in a row.
01:41:01.000For me, I never got into it where it stuck with me.
01:41:04.000Hours and hours, but I had a friend my friend Johnny B who I grew up with like I grew up in pool with who was a hustler.
01:41:12.000I met him when he was a pool hustler and He was this really fucking smart dude who was good at who just he could play chess He could do numbers in his head like you could throw 500 times a thousand minus six divided by three he'd go 465 Definitely not,
01:42:32.000And I think it's the same with archery.
01:42:34.000One of the things about archery is if you watch a guy like yourself or any of the top target archers and you see those guys on TV in the Olympics and they're aiming at those spots and they release that arrow and it goes into the center, at home you're watching it going, yay, he got another bull's eye.
01:42:50.000Or a guy misses and you're like, what the hell?
01:46:11.000Well, it's also you can regulate through those.
01:46:14.000And one of the things that I've noticed is when I've taken days off of exercise, and I've done it many times, and I did it pretty recently because I was kind of feeling sick.
01:46:25.000I was just kind of feeling kind of crappy, and my kids had colds.
01:46:28.000And I was like, man, I might be coming down with something.
01:46:31.000So I said, I'm just going to just chill out.
01:47:54.000But when I exercise, that comes almost natural.
01:47:58.000It just feels like the thing to think of, the way to do, especially if I exercise hard.
01:48:02.000If I can get through a brutal workout, the sky seems brighter, the air seems cleaner, people seem happier, I feel like I can change the way I interface with the world around me.
01:48:14.000It's not just as simple as, you know, you work out because it's good for you.
01:48:18.000You work out because it's good for life.
01:48:21.000And I just think it's so easy to fall prey to our natural instincts to want to be comfortable all the time.
01:48:30.000And I think the more you do that, the more you fall prey to the natural instinct to want to be comfortable all the time, you deny the observable yin and yang to the universe.
01:48:40.000That the universe requires these moments of discomfort, like hard workout sessions, in order for you to feel good.
01:48:47.000And I also think your body has these natural reward systems that have been implanted in us through millions and millions of years of being whatever the fuck we were when we were, you know, millions of years ago.
01:48:59.000I think people have these things embedded in their head, and there's a certain requirement of panic, there's a certain requirement of exercise, there's a certain requirement of Protecting your environment, recognizing the dangers around you.
01:49:16.000Well, if you grow up in the inner city in a really gang-infested, crime-ridden neighborhood, it's way higher ramped up than it is if you're a kid in Beverly Hills and your parents are super rich and their parents are super rich and you don't understand what it's like to be in a dangerous place.
01:51:28.000I think with any sport that's an individual sport, especially when it's a finesse sport, a lot of times you have to lose control and especially lose the ego in order to excel in In the outcome.
01:51:44.000So, like a lot of the ways that I coach, I take away your ability to control and then slowly bring it back to you.
01:51:52.000What people don't understand what you're saying, let me just explain to people that have no idea what archery is if you're still here.
01:52:01.000But what I'm saying is that when you learn archery, one of the things that happens to some people, I should say a lot of people, is you get something called target panic.
01:52:10.000And that means, like, what you try to do is you try to have...
01:52:41.000And it's weird because it becomes like this psychological, um, Sort of a trap that they fall into and it's really common with target archers and I think something has to do with the monotony of continuing to stare at a spot and Sometimes being dead on it and sometimes not and eventually it builds up in your head We're trying to figure out how do I time this thing where I hit that trigger perfectly?
01:53:03.000Well someone figured out a long time ago that if you use a release that doesn't let you know when the arrow is going to go off It's a surprise shot, then all those tricks don't get worked into your system.
01:53:17.000All the tricks your brain plays on you don't get worked into the system.
01:53:20.000And John has an amazing method of what we're saying, taking away control.
01:53:28.000What you do by taking away control is you develop this tension release that you're just pulling through the shot.
01:53:33.000So you can't anticipate when it's going off because the muscles are not nearly as sensitive as the ones that are on your finger or anything that's used to manipulating things.
01:53:40.000You literally minimize your focus on literally a process.
01:53:50.000This is probably equivalent to most sports.
01:53:53.000But your conscious mind, if you occupy it with a fight-or-flight syndrome or a fight-or-flight reaction, a lot of times when people experience performance anxiety...
01:54:22.000Once, say you get freaking cracked hard with that left hand, your conscious mind goes from your trainer saying, slip and move, slip and move, keep moving, and all of a sudden you get hit with this thing that occupies your conscious mind to a thought of fight or flight.
01:55:03.000So we're focusing 100%, 100%, and I've worked on you with this, I've worked on Aubrey with this, on a process.
01:55:13.000And if you only focus on the process, then if you couldn't, if that ice shield was out there, the ice wall, and you could never see the result...
01:55:23.000I would guarantee you that the result in the end would be, you know, if there was someone on the other side saying, Joe Rogan is an unbelievable archer, because you never knew the result, you were on this side of the ice wall saying, I'm only caring about the process.
01:55:39.000So I take away all the tools of the result, which essentially those tools are what you came up with on your own when you said, I want to get into archery.
01:55:51.000And then once you understand that process, and I 100% trust that you know the process...
01:55:59.000Then I all of a sudden give you a tool to have ultimate control of the result, which is like what, you know, for a year I worked with you and then in the end you came back to the Noctuit, right?
01:56:24.000Without the corrections in the form that you did for me, that made my archery alone more effective and more satisfying because, like, as we talked about, like, archery is a strange discipline.
01:56:34.000And when someone points out the pictures to you, it sort of...
01:56:39.000It sort of illuminates the process in this weird way that makes the process more exciting.
01:56:44.000Like, everything you do, if you enjoy doing something when you first start doing it, once you get better at it, you're going to enjoy it even more.
02:07:12.000But synchronized the mass spawning was a mystery.
02:07:16.000Okay, in today's issue of the journal Science, researchers reveal that they have isolated an ancient gene in the coral's DNA that can detect moonlight.
02:07:25.000By exposing the corals to different colors and intensities of light, the team found that the gene known as CRY2 was most active in acropora during a full moon.
02:08:00.000Well, dude, that was getting back to what we were talking about earlier about bucks, about how strange they are that they only breed once a year.
02:08:58.000Every year in Iowa, on the different farms that I hunt, I find either two bucks that are locked together and dead, or a buck that's dead, kind of based on a puncture wound, right?
02:09:12.000Actually, when we were at the Tejon, we talked about some of the elk that people took last year.
02:09:17.000And the manager said that one of the bulls they took was because of the fact he had broke his horn at one time and he grew that spear out of the front.
02:09:26.000And they said he kept killing other elk because when he would fight he literally had this broadsword Where everything else had this steel mace, right?
02:09:38.000Yeah, everything else they would connect almost like people locking their hands in a game of mercy.
02:09:44.000And one guy had a frickin' Wolverine spear, like a Terminator 2 frickin' sword on his arm.
02:10:10.000If we could only do it once a year, where would you go?
02:10:13.000If the quickening happened once a year, and once a year, everybody started getting crazy and horny and dudes were running red lights and breaking into people's houses.
02:10:21.000I'd go to my house and I'd lock the door.
02:11:18.000Art Bell was like this late-night radio host, a legendary late-night radio host that always entertained all these people.
02:11:27.000He had these people on his show that were psychics, or they were Bigfoot experts, or they worked at Area 51. Like the Joe Rogan Experience 2015. In many ways, I owe it to Art Bell.
02:11:39.000I did his show, and when I did his show, it was a huge honor for me.
02:13:19.000Yeah, a weather balloon, not a Zeppelin.
02:13:21.000They would use these weather balloons to spy on people.
02:13:24.000And there was another thing they did, this was a really fascinating episode of Radiolab, I wish I could remember it, the name of it rather, but they sent bombs, Japan sent bombs over to North America flying the jet stream in balloons.
02:13:40.000And the idea was to send bombs without any soldiers across the ocean, riding the jet stream, and they would land in America and fuck people up.
02:13:51.000And some of them didn't go off, and people would find them.
02:13:54.000Like when they would go digging around for shit, maybe some of the metal detector.
02:14:41.000But the episode is fascinating because you just think of the crazy mindset of people.
02:14:47.000Like, one of the first things they figured out when they figured out that there's wind that travels in a very predictable current around the world...
02:14:52.000Okay, how do we fly something up there and drop it on people?
02:17:10.000People with news footage of a missile launch outside the main railway station and, well, maybe this is just what their shitty design looks like.
02:17:17.000A North Korea missile test failed just moments after launch Wednesday, according to U.S. and South Korea.
02:17:21.000Maybe they reproduced a SCUD. I'm debunking that.
02:17:24.000Might just be an old picture they used to use for a picture.
02:21:25.000It's also in a language that's extremely complex, and I don't think it's the same.
02:21:32.000I don't think their interpretations of what we call things, I don't think it matches up with the way they feel about things.
02:21:39.000So when you translate something from Japanese, especially Japanese I think it was the 1400s when Miyamoto Musashi wrote the Book of Five Rings.
02:21:48.000You translate from that to today, I think you're missing a lot.
02:21:54.000You're also missing the reality of their life, the futile life and death.
02:21:59.000The reality of sword fights and that there's an intensity to their existence that I think is very, very difficult for us to quantify today.
02:22:06.000And that book, you almost have to sit down and think for a long time before you open that book.
02:22:14.000You got to put yourself, and don't just read the words.
02:22:16.000Read the words and imagine that this is an interpretation of someone's words in Japanese who was maybe the greatest guy that ever lived at fucking people up with swords.
02:22:28.000But he was really into calligraphy, and he's really into art and poetry, and he was really into meditation, and he was really into mind games.
02:22:42.000Because he seemed to me, in a lot like when you're trying to talk about mastering archery or trying to master jiu-jitsu, there's things that are vehicles for you to try to develop your potential.
02:22:55.000And some vehicles are more extreme than others.
02:22:57.000Like our friend Cam Haynes who likes to run ultra-marathons.
02:23:00.000And then he run the Bigfoot 205-pound marathon.
02:23:07.000I mean, those people that pick those paths like that, in some sort of strange way, people that pick these super extreme paths are kind of redefining What people are capable of, you know, and engaging with the most extreme aspects of life.
02:23:27.000And then they turn life up to ten, and then regular life becomes almost unsufferable.
02:23:34.000Like with me, archery would be ten, which most people can't even relate to that, right?
02:23:40.000Yeah, most people have a hard time finding anything that they really, really sync up with.
02:23:44.000But what I think is that when you see a guy like You know, like a super athlete, like Mighty Mouse, when you see a fully dedicated super athlete, when you see, I mean, there's a lot of consequences to what Mighty Mouse does, extreme consequences, but then you go one more level,
02:28:11.000And he would just wail these full power punches.
02:28:15.000And when he would fight people, like when he fought Joe Frazier, he hit him with punches that you could tell Frazier had never been hit like that before.
02:28:35.000So his ability to single power punch was so extraordinary that almost no one could stand in front of him and withstand that sort of a barrage.
02:28:44.000That's a freak athlete and those come along and when those come along, if they're smart, two, and then they're really good at learning the sport, two, A lot of people are fucked.
02:29:15.000Like, you watch Brock Lesnar wind up and crack someone, which I saw, and then you see Connor, which you don't even realize the punch came in, and then their face is, like, swelling up instantly.
02:29:29.000That's, like, what we just saw with Foreman.
02:29:33.000The difference between that and Foreman is obviously Foreman has big heavyweight gloves on, and he's punching a bag that a guy's holding, and there's a lot of padding between that dude and the bag.
02:29:42.000It'd be interesting to see someone, when you see someone stand in front of Foreman and Foreman would hit them, he was one of the most extraordinary power punchers in history.
02:29:48.000It was like, have you ever been close to an airport and you see a big 757 coming in?
02:32:43.000I remember when I was a kid, my parents loved Muhammad Ali.
02:32:47.000It's like one of those things that people, the generation loved him because he didn't fight in the Vietnam War and he wanted to, like, protest against these senseless wars and so they stripped him of his title for three years.
02:33:00.000He represented so much to people back then in some sort of a weird way.
02:33:05.000So when he fought George Foreman, people were so terrified that he was going to get beat up that Hunter S. Thompson didn't watch the fight.
02:33:11.000He was sent to Africa to watch the fight.
02:33:13.000He had tickets to be ringside at the fucking fight to report for it for the Rolling Stone.
02:37:47.000At any moment, if Conor wanted to just slide a little back and start kicking his face or kicking his legs out from under him, he wouldn't know what the fuck to do.
02:37:55.000Do you think he knows how to block a wheel kick?
02:37:56.000He's going to get kicked in the back of the fucking head.
02:37:58.000Say Conor popped the referee and then just wheel kicked Mayweather.
02:38:03.000You know, he would have to get close enough to him to do that, and it wouldn't be as easy as it seems.
02:38:08.000But the distance between punching and kicking is pretty substantial.
02:38:12.000And Conor closes that distance in a really fast and really spectacular way.
02:38:23.000So I think in a boxing match, if you have $100 and you have to bet on someone, The odds are gonna most certainly favor Floyd Mayweather because it's a boxing match.
02:38:33.000If it was a fight, it would be a hundred million to one that Conor McGregor would fuck him up.
02:38:56.000If I hadn't have seen Connor live and how people's faces looked when they got tagged by him the first time, I would say I would put money on Mayweather based on what you just told everyone with $10 to do.
02:39:09.000But the fact that I've seen people get cracked by him and I've seen their face...