In this episode, the brother and sister duo of the sit down with a good friend of the show, Joe Eastwood. Joe and I talk about growing up in the same house as Clint Eastwood, how we met, and how we became friends. We also talk about how we got into archery, and Joe shares some of his favorite memories of growing up with his dad. Joe also talks about how he got into public service and how he became involved in the fight against the Surfrider Foundation and the fight to protect public lands in general. Thanks to our sponsor, Under Armour, for sponsoring this episode! We hope you enjoy, sit down, and have a nice rest of your day. Cheers, Joe and Joe! XOXO - The Eastwood Brothers. -Joe and Scott Eastwood - The Westwood Boys is a production of Native Creative Podcasts. Hosted by and . Produced by , & Featuring . . . . , , . . , . , , . , and . . and . & . - Joe and Co-hosted by . . & . . ! Hosts: , Joe, , & , Brad, , , & Cam, . and , is a proud member of the Native Creative Crew. . We are proud to be able to provide you with access to all of the amazing resources and resources provided to us by Native Creative and Native Creative Commons. , including our patrons! , our sponsors! and all of our supporters! . ) Thank you so much for all of your support and support, we really appreciate you, thank you for making this podcast possible. Thank you, so much, we appreciate you! - Thank you for all the support, and we appreciate all the love, support, appreciation, and appreciation, we truly appreciate all of you, you are amazing support, support you, and much more! ... thank you, we can t do this, we are so much more than we can do this... we appreciate it, we love you, thanks, we will keep on, we'll see you back, we're going to keep on Thank you back and we'll keep on keep on coming, we re gonna keep on moving forward, we see you.
00:08:58.000You know, prove myself that I was down for hard work and, you know, down to throw hits that, you know, that sort of, you know, bridged the gap.
00:09:06.000And then ultimately, they were part of my team.
00:09:09.000And then so we would, you know, go to other schools and, you know, play other schools.
00:09:13.000And then I was still the Howley boy to everybody else, but they had my back now.
00:09:30.000Okay, well, this is what I got to deal with now is the cards I got dealt, so I either got to man up.
00:09:36.000Yeah, I have a bunch of buddies who live in Hawaii, and they say that if you're respectful and you're not a douchebag, after a while you just fit right in and everybody's cool with it.
00:09:50.000I was growing up surfing, and so there's definitely a pecking order and a respect there that you have to learn, or you're going to learn the hard way.
00:09:59.000And I think that was a good thing, ultimately, because it kind of humbles you and makes you know your place, which is good.
00:10:09.000Did you start training jiu-jitsu there?
00:10:12.000I started, you know, actually, one of my good buddies who passed away, Paul Walker, got me into jiu-jitsu.
00:10:44.000And that's, you know, that's another thing that's great about over there is, like, you really realize, like, obviously, you know, jits is, like, the ultimate humbling, you know, for people, especially for, you know, I think for men that carry a lot of ego around or carry a lot of, you know,
00:11:01.000you know, I think as men, we're trying to figure out who we are, especially when we're young.
00:11:06.000It really calms your ego down because you always know, you know, I'm gonna choke some people out and people are gonna choke me out.
00:11:29.000And once you've done it a bunch of times and, you know, trained for a few years, it just it all calms down.
00:11:35.000Yeah, you notice like all the all the you know guys who do it consistently or eat the high-level guys Just so calm.
00:11:41.000Yeah, so calm and that's actually one thing I noticed about Cameron too.
00:11:44.000He's like he's a calm motherfucker cuz He spends a lot of time out in the wilderness and I think that has a big You know with the world we live in now today.
00:11:56.000Yeah, we're Yeah, and we talked about this.
00:12:00.000Some of the experiences, the stressful experiences and the hard.
00:12:03.000I mean, life here is never hard, really.
00:12:07.000The challenges we face in the regular everyday world.
00:13:54.000I was telling you the other day, Cameron, I did a lot of reading about circadian rhythms in our body because I've had chronic sleepwalking, chronic night terrors since I was a little kid.
00:14:55.000So I've been reading a lot about that and I obviously listen to your podcast a lot about just about the way humans are supposed to operate in the natural life cycle.
00:15:07.000You wake up in the morning because it gets light and you go to bed because it gets dark and we're screwing that all up with The TVs and the phones and all the stuff.
00:15:18.000And anytime I've ever been in the wilderness, I do a lot of backpacking and been on a lot of hunting trips and fishing and stuff.
00:15:30.000And what they said was, in all the reading I've done, is that your creation of melatonin is in your optics because of the assimilation of light.
00:15:41.000So when it gets dark, your mind's supposed to create more melatonin, which obviously puts you to sleep.
00:16:02.000You know, just in order to deal with the fact that we're constantly surrounded by lights and staring at your phone before you go to bed and watching TV and go to the bathroom and the light's bright.
00:18:03.000Between the time the plane was invented, between the invention of the airplane and someone dropping an atomic bomb out of the airplane, it was less than 50 years.
00:18:15.000It was like somewhere like 44 years or something like that between the invention of the airplane by the Wright brothers, the first flight, and then a bomb dropping on Hiroshima.
00:22:03.000Like maybe a few classic Ferraris from that day, but like a Camaro from 1990, push that thing off a cliff and shoot at it while it's on its way down.
00:22:13.000Hey, don't let your girl drive that car.
00:25:10.000About horseback riding and this guy was explaining how people try to wear hiking boots when they go horseback riding and they jam their food.
00:25:17.000He's like, there's a reason why cowboy boots fall off so easy.
00:25:21.000You don't get dragged behind a fucking horse.
00:25:37.000I just bought, I got my, the ones I had yesterday, which were like a thousand bucks, and I just got them resold because I'd worn them so much.
00:29:36.000But one of the reasons for accusing them of being fake is that they always have to...
00:29:41.000Put on the best show, like, as far as their behavior and the way they act and think and their opinions, because they're constantly trying to get cast in things.
00:29:49.000And it's all about getting people like you and politicking.
00:29:52.000And we were talking also about, like, you kind of have to have liberal sensibilities.
00:29:57.000Like, in this town, if you're a right winger...
00:31:01.000Yeah, that's a big issue with people in general, but in LA, I think this is the magnet for all the narcissists and all the people that want attention and the people that have a hole.
00:31:12.000They have a hole they need to fill up for whatever their childhood, whatever the fuck it is.
00:31:17.000And they gravitate here and then they just communicate with each other the same way.
00:31:22.000And everybody kind of like pretends to be someone who they're not.
00:34:00.000Right at that falling down with that Michael Douglas, you know, when he's fucking, he's got the briefcase and he goes in traffic, starts shooting people.
00:34:25.000Because, like you said, you know, you get a reputation for being an asshole or, you know, showing up late to work or this, that, and the other, and, you know, everyone's going to know about it.
00:34:33.000It's a small place, LA. Or being a diva.
00:36:26.000My dad used to always say, believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.
00:36:32.000And that always stuck with me because, you know, you sit down with people in the industry or whatever, and you just hear, you know, a lot of Hollywood is gossip, right?
00:37:37.000And that's where the business side of the business is so delusion, because the agents and the people around us, they're not the ones there Putting in the sweat every day for five months to make a film.
00:37:51.000Pulling the creative ideas, pulling the hard work, the grips and all the guys who are underpaid and are working just to make money to feed their families.
00:38:05.000It's interesting because I saw it from a very different lens.
00:38:08.000I saw it from my father's lens, which is, you know, my dad show up on time, get the movie done, shoot it fast, treat everybody good, and work with the same people over and over again, do the right thing by people, have integrity.
00:38:24.000People don't see that side of the business.
00:38:28.000There's so much other stuff that people never get love for in the film industry.
00:39:36.000But yeah, so I think working out during lunch seems to be the best thing for me because I don't do well in the mornings for a workout because I feel stiff.
00:39:44.000So I like to get the blood going first.
00:39:46.000If I can hit it during lunch, even if I'm on set, I'll do whatever.
00:39:58.000But now, lately, over the last, like, not even lately, but over the last, like, five or six years, I like to get up and the first thing I do, work out.
00:40:05.000Especially, like, if I was doing jujitsu in the afternoon and I needed to do a lifting session...
00:40:11.000I want as much space between the lifting and the jujitsu as possible so I can recover.
00:40:18.000And even though I don't feel good in the morning, once the blood starts pumping and the sweat, you got to just remind yourself, like, yeah, I know you feel like shit.
00:40:26.000Just do the few reps, get that blood going, and then once you're sweating, you're sweating.
00:42:27.000Yeah, see, he's got such a better attitude because I would have said, worry about yourself.
00:42:33.000I'm used to getting critiqued online, and so maybe I'm just a little defensive.
00:42:38.000Well, these seats that we're sitting in are the best.
00:42:41.000These are called Ergo Depot is the name of the company, and it's called a Capisco.
00:42:45.000And what it is is they're comfortable, but they make you sort of sit and support yourself with your spine, whereas a lot of times people just kind of slump in chairs.
00:44:42.000Well, for jiu-jitsu, it's huge because range of motion is one of the most important things in jiu-jitsu and flexibility, especially when you have a good guard.
00:45:22.000So his dad is like one of the original.
00:45:24.000Originators of Brazilian jiu-jitsu so he grew up with it.
00:45:27.000It's in his DNA He trained his whole life under the best teachers in the world and then Yoga and training and exercise like Hickson does bounce beams who stands on a bounce beam and does a full split standing up holds his foot over his head I mean it's fucking freaky to watch.
00:45:43.000He's just got incredible control of his body so The dexterity and the control of the body along with the strength and jujitsu, that's what made Hickson who he is.
00:45:55.000It's just, it's again, it's one of those things that's not as cool as telling someone you deadlift 600 pounds.
00:47:53.000You know, any chance I got just to, you know, get on set, play any role, do any lines, whatever, just learn, soak it up.
00:48:01.000And, yeah, I was doing that for years.
00:48:03.000I mean, I was doing that for seven, eight years, you know, while I was bartending, while I was, you know, valet parking cars, anything to, you know, pay the bills.
00:48:14.000But how important is that, that you actually worked your way through it, even though you're Clint Eastwood's son?
00:49:12.000He could do that, I guess, in his movie, but I think the common thing is, well, you had it easy because somebody else, he can't just pick up a phone and call some big director and tell him who he should cast.
00:49:25.000Yeah, and the director would probably tell him, you know, thank you, Clint, but I'm not doing that.
00:49:32.000This is my movie and I don't even know who your son is.
00:49:35.000When he went on TV and did that thing where he had a seat next to him and he talked to Obama and talked to the empty chair, did you call him up and go, what the fuck, Dad?
00:50:28.000Yeah, you know, I auditioned and, you know, I remember actually talking, I knew Bradley Cooper and I said, hey, you know, I'd love to play your brother.
00:51:58.000I think that's the same way with inheritance.
00:52:00.000I mean, it's very rare that someone inherits a shitload of money early on in life and then winds up having character and being...
00:52:07.000They say that Donald Trump is like that, that he's a cool guy.
00:52:10.000Like everybody I know that's met him, I know he gets a lot of weird press, but the guys that I know that know him say he's a really nice guy, really down to earth, really normal, really healthy.
00:52:20.000And I've heard that about a lot of Trump's kids, which is really strange.
00:53:50.000And it is like very, like you said, it's totally in the pocket.
00:53:57.000All of a sudden, it's now an adrenaline, adrenaline, and then you're, you know, it's over because you either missed the shot or you didn't take it.
00:54:08.000That there's a direct correlation between lower heart rate and good archery.
00:54:13.000That there's actually been studies done, you know, like in these European circles where there are target archers.
00:54:18.000And one of the things they've found to improve...
00:54:21.000Dudley was talking about this on his podcast, Knock On...
00:54:24.000On his podcast, he was talking about that running, in particular, is really good at lowering your heart rate, obviously, but then also the side effect of that is it improves archery, and it improves your ability under pressure to keep your heart rate down,
00:54:40.000because your heart rate is naturally lower.
00:55:03.000So when you have that going for you, like say if your heart rate gets jacked up and you calm it down, you're probably still going to be like within the 60s or 70s.
00:55:12.000Whereas a guy who's like some fucking bubba with some big sloppy gut and, you know, and he's taking rip fuel just so he can get up to the top of the mountain.
00:57:02.000And so the race actually tweeted and said that I wouldn't be able to finish because I'd want to get up in a tree stand and kill some of the wild pigs running around.
00:58:06.000And the course isn't marked, so you're navigating with a map that you have to create yourself.
00:58:11.000And to get the checkpoints, there's books there at every checkpoint, and you have a certain number of the page, and they say, you go and pull out page 12 of every book, this is how it works, and then you bring it back to make sure, and they check you when you get the lap completed and say,
00:58:27.000okay, you hit every checkpoint, here's all the pages of those books, and then you do another lap.
00:58:32.000But what if you run with some douchebag who's like, fuck page three.
00:59:24.000And he was like 60 hours and six seconds or something like that.
00:59:28.000It says when he was going around the race, he came to a staircase, and there's no staircases in the marathon, so he knew he fucked up then.
01:04:16.000Like this morning, I ran the treadmill before I hit the weights, but just to warm up because there was nothing in the gym I was at, but not really.
01:09:04.000Well, we filmed today, and so I took a shot at 61 yards with my big old heavy arrow, and I shot, and I run up to the binoculars, and I look, and it was a perfect shot, and I was so excited.
01:09:16.000It was the first time I ever shot a bow.
01:10:04.000They should have, like Hoyt should have a Hoyt Academy, or a place you can go where you could buy a bow, they size you, they fit you up to the correct draw length, and then you sign up for a class, and there's a teacher, and they show you how to do it.
01:10:18.000If there was something like that, where it's like You know, you can go take karate somewhere.
01:11:17.000You never know what you're going to get.
01:11:19.000There's all sorts of different type of people out there.
01:11:22.000I pulled up to the hotel to come up to LA because I had to do some press.
01:11:27.000I opened up the hotel at the Hotel Bel Air, and I opened up the door of my truck, and all the field tips come out, and the bellman's looking at me going, what the fuck are you doing with compound bows in the car in L.A.? Yeah,
01:12:21.000I think before we realize the venom that'll come out of...
01:12:25.000of bear hunting but Joe retweeted the video of this bear stood up and was grabbing this beaver up there and I shot it and we had a GoPro on the backside of it and the arrow went through the bear came out the backside and it was just like didn't even slow down no I mean and just kind of all this stuff kind of came out with the arrow just like what was the sound That's the sound the arrow made going through the bear.
01:12:51.000It just blasts through the bear's body, and then the bear went on a full sprint.
01:12:56.000Almost right where you guys were, just slightly off to your right.
01:13:01.000If you've never seen a bear sprint before, when you see them lumber around, you go, oh, well, I kind of get an idea what that thing can do.
01:14:15.000They didn't know for sure until really recently that it was even produced by the pineal gland.
01:14:21.000Now that they know, there's a guy named Rick Strassman, Dr. Rick Strassman out of the University of New Mexico.
01:14:29.000And he put together these clinical trials that were the first ever FDA approved clinical trials on a psychedelic drug.
01:14:36.000First ever on DMT and they were done in New Mexico and he did them and he wrote a book about it called DMT the spirit molecule and one of the things that he found it's a great book and one of the things he found really fascinating and I read the book before I ever did DMT the thing that he found really fascinating was that these people had used uniform experiences and It wasn't like one person saw this thing and then another person had a totally different trip.
01:16:48.000And what ayahuasca is, is an orally active DMT. So DMT, normally when you eat it, your body produces something in your digestive tract called monoamine oxidase.
01:17:02.000And so what ayahuasca is, is DMT from one plant and an MAO inhibitor from another plant.
01:17:08.000And they combine it together and they create an orally active DMT. Because otherwise, you'd just be tripping every time you eat a salad.
01:17:15.000You get some wheatgrass juice, you chip your balls off, but your body keeps that from happening.
01:17:21.000But the purpose of that DMT and what it does in human neurochemistry is not really understood that well.
01:17:28.000But what they do know now because of Rick Strassman and the work of the Cottonwood Research Foundation, which is a foundation that's dedicated to exploring these subjects, they've found that in live rats, Rats or mice, I forget which one, that they've proven that their pineal gland is producing dimethyltryptamine,
01:17:46.000which is what they've always, it's always been anecdotal evidence.
01:17:49.000So now they know that it's not just produced by the liver and the lungs, but it's also produced by this little gland.
01:17:54.000And this little gland, they think, during near-death experiences and during heavy REM sleep, it's producing DMT. How much?
01:18:49.000Or no, I just mean, there's something, there's a phenomenon happening that we just, as humans, can't possibly understand, and maybe we'll never understand in our lifetime.
01:18:58.000Well, you know, there's two different ways of looking at it.
01:19:00.000One is that it's a human neurochemistry, and that it's a chemical that is just producing these crazy visuals, and it's just all the meaning that you attach to it is just your own.
01:19:11.000And then the other way of looking at it is it's some sort of a chemical gateway into the afterlife.
01:19:15.000And that what you're seeing is like the souls of these people that have lived before and all the people that have ever lived, like a sea of souls.
01:19:23.000And I don't know what, who's right or who's wrong, but it's impossible to describe.
01:19:28.000Like you describe it, it's just like you're just throwing words around.
01:20:58.000I can go out of town for a week and come back, and it's fine.
01:21:01.000Yeah, so that's a really cool-looking cactus that people keep in their yard all the time in LA. Like, one of the things in LA, because of the drought that we have for so many years until this year, which is awesome, everything looks like New Zealand out there now.
01:23:03.000And it's also, there's also a real problem with perception, especially amongst people that haven't experienced psychedelic drugs, that when you say the word drug, or you say psychedelic compounds maybe, because when you say the word drug, people automatically have in their head, oh, you're a weak person, you're trying to hide from reality.
01:23:20.000You know, you're trying to shield yourself, you're just trying to get high and just lay around like, I don't even want to be here, man.
01:23:52.000I mean, it depends on how you're coming into it and then what kind of defense mechanisms you have, what kind of ego you have, whether or not you can just realize, like, now that you've seen this, you know that life will never be the same again.
01:24:06.000You're always going to know that that's a possibility, that you can smoke this crystal powder that's extracted from plants And when you smoke it, you're transported to a world of love and understanding and geometric patterns of Infinite description to the point where like you can't even describe you know You don't even know what you're looking at while you're looking at it It's just so beyond like lifts the veil know what we think is reality Yeah,
01:24:35.000It might be the afterlife It really might be it might be there might be a reason why people think that heaven is filled with ultimate love Because people have had near-death experiences and they've come back with these stories and during those near-death experiences It's entirely possible not just speculative not just like it might absolutely be That your brain is producing this dimethyltryptamine that it already produces in high doses and that's what it's there for.
01:25:24.000You realize it's humbling, I think, too.
01:25:26.000There's a lot we don't understand that's happening.
01:25:29.000And then we may never understand and and to be so close-minded to think we know One path or the other what's the right thing or the wrong thing?
01:29:10.000Do you think there should be controls over it?
01:29:12.000Like, just outside of being, you know, the FCC being able to, like, sue people or whatever that never really happens, it feels like, do you think that it should be hard to control it?
01:29:20.000I don't know, because then there's, like, things like The Onion.
01:29:50.000And most of them are pretty humorous, but occasionally people will tweet me with like an Onion story and like, can you fucking believe this shit, man?
01:32:44.000But you don't have to do much more than that, and you kind of cover your ass, and you say, I have to protect my sources, I have the First Amendment right, and it's a weird time.
01:32:52.000And it's a weird time because essentially the boundaries to publication have been dissolved.
01:32:57.000It used to be that you had to work for the New York Times, or the Washington Post, or a newspaper, whatever.
01:33:03.000Now, all you need is a blog or a Facebook page, and you're breaking news, and just Scott Eastwood admits to wearing women's clothes while he hunts for deer.
01:34:03.000The ability to communicate where anybody can do anything at any time and everybody can find out about it.
01:34:09.000You can write something on your Twitter page, just publish it, and then it gets to the right amount of people, and then they share it, and then all of a sudden a million people have seen it inside of an hour.
01:38:39.000Then he defended it against Dan Henderson, and now he's going to fight GSP. So the thought is, how is this guy getting two fights that aren't...
01:38:58.000If you look at it in terms of who's the most viable contender, who's the guy that you would think would be the most threatening guy, who's the guy that might be the uncrowned champion, you've got to go with Yoel Romero.
01:43:55.000So it seems, I don't know, it doesn't seem, life isn't fair, who cares?
01:43:59.000But it doesn't seem fair that it's GSP. Well, the thing is, is it a sport, or is it entertainment?
01:44:06.000I mean, you're just trying to put on a spectacle, or is it a sport?
01:44:09.000And if it's a sport, if you're going to have the World Series, people play this guy to play that guy, and it gets to the World Series, and here's the World Series, folks, and this is, we've had all, this whole season, we've been building to this moment, and this is the hierarchy.
01:45:42.000Yeah, yeah, most people don't know that it's a it's it's pretty crazy he and I'm gonna I'm gonna butcher the details, but just you know from growing up But what happened was he was in the army and it was right around the time the Korean War was starting and He was they were flying they're doing a routine flight or something and they had to crash land in the ocean whoa and it was getting night and I I
01:46:12.000believe the pilot died, and I could be wrong.
01:46:16.000The pilot died, but the other guy he was with survived.
01:46:20.000So him and this other guy, they were swimming to shore, and they got split up because it was getting dark at night.
01:46:28.000And so now they're swimming alone, and anyone who knows San Francisco, it's cold.
01:48:02.000I was gone for six months in Australia, in China...
01:48:07.000And then before that I was working on Fast, and then before that I was on a movie.
01:48:10.000Not as much as I'd like, but he is turning 87 this year, and I'm taking some time off because I really feel like that's an important time in my life to try to be around him.
01:52:58.000There's also some weird thoughts that go through your mind when you're sleep deprived that don't ordinarily go through your mind.
01:53:04.000One of the reasons is like some writers on purpose will wait until like really late at night until they write.
01:53:10.000Like the writers that wrote for news radio, the sitcom that I used to be on, they would wait until like 2 or 3 in the morning before they started writing.
01:53:17.000They would just stay up and get silly and joke around.
01:54:57.000Like, one of the biggest bummers about the Dukes of Hazzard is watching these old Chargers slam nose-first into the ground and then pretending that thing's okay.
01:55:06.000Yeah, there was some of that driving off the snow.
01:56:41.000I mean, if anyone's got good gun discipline, you know, I mean, that's how I grew up is, you know, good gun discipline, you know, muzzle down.
01:56:56.000They do testing and stuff first to see, and they'll tell you, hey, you can't pass this line if you're walking up and you're going to draw a gun on somebody.
01:57:05.000We don't want you to go past this line or so.
01:57:08.000And obviously, hey, can you not aim it directly at their head?
01:57:12.000They'll find a good point for you to aim it at that can cheat with the camera a little bit.
01:57:17.000I'd heard that that happened after Brandon Lee got killed in the movie The Crow.
01:57:27.000You know, what happens is sometimes, like, what happens is sometimes, you know, even in these airbags, the same sort of stuff, they had all these recalls in these airbags, is what happens is these blanks, you know, sometimes they'll bunch up together over time if it's an old blank,
02:00:57.000And he's hosting this award show, and he's doing something for the troops, and he's doing this movie, and he's finishing up that movie, and he's like, how?
02:01:04.000I tell you, the travel is what kills me.
02:01:06.000I know you've been in show business for longer than all of us, and the travel is what kills you, right?
02:01:13.000These long flights, and then jet lag, and then you've got to go hit the gym.
02:01:22.000I just flew in from Buffalo, and it just takes a day or two for your brain to re-sync.
02:01:28.000Today I feel normal, but yesterday I just was foggy.
02:01:31.000I haven't tried it, but I keep hearing about the...
02:01:35.000what you're supposed to do with the light for the jet lag because like the simulation of light wherever you're at and they have you know you're supposed to put on the eye thing like when it's supposed to get dark like say you're flying into the light you're flying you know going away all those eye covers yeah and simulate wherever you want where you ever you're supposed to end up yeah and that really is supposed to help with jet lag I was reading a podcast about Alaska,
02:01:58.000about people that hunt in Alaska, and then when you go up there in the summer and you get like two hours of...
02:02:14.000Excuse me, I was listening to a podcast where they were talking, this guy was talking about how he usually sleeps like a baby, but he went up to Alaska because it's only dark for two hours a night in the summer where they were at.
02:02:27.000I think they were in the Brooks Range.
02:02:28.000And he was saying that after six or seven days, he started getting delusional.
02:05:30.000There's a survey someone did online where it was like, keep John Anik, me, and Dominic Cruz was A, and then Goldberg was B, and it was like 90% B. Yeah.
02:14:52.000Yeah, it's weird when you go down there, too, because everybody looks normal, and they start driving on the left-hand side of the road, and they talk weird.
02:14:59.000And the steering wheel's on the wrong side.
02:16:09.000That's one of the reasons why they're so nice.
02:16:10.000I do hear, though, that there's a lot of interesting stuff happening in the desert out there with, like, nuclear waste that they're allowing them to dump out there.
02:16:19.000Oh, they're trying to make some Godzilla-type shit.
02:20:07.000You're out there in the woods by yourself and you're making a lean-to and you have to fight the coyote that's trying to drag your kid off in the middle of the night.
02:20:14.000Yeah, that coyote gets roasted over an open fire.
02:20:42.000When you were talking about bear hunting, and, like, you were saying, you know, that the bear populations have to be controlled, and the woman on the show was like, that's because you've killed off all their predators.
02:20:51.000Like, what are you talking about, dinosaurs, bitch?
02:20:53.000What the hell is killing a grizzly bear?
02:21:09.000I said, listen, these people just don't realize that if the grizzlies, the brown bears up there where you can kill two a year because there's so many of them, that if we didn't control them, there'd be no moose.
02:22:21.000Animals, they just don't manage themselves.
02:22:23.000What I mean by intervene is like what they did in Australia, where they brought over feral cats to control the rats and rabbits, and then they started eating the ground-nesting birds, so they bring in foxes to try to kill the cats, and then the foxes kill everything but the cats, and like, Jesus Christ!
02:22:37.000So wait, why did they bring the cats in?
02:22:40.000It's a long story, but they brought in rabbits in Australia, and the rabbit population got out of control.
02:22:47.000And then they brought in cats to deal with the rabbits, but the cats didn't just eat the rabbits.
02:22:51.000They also started decimating the ground-nesting birds and all the other local rodents.
02:22:56.000And then they brought in other things to deal with the cats.
02:23:24.000American alligator over there they have alligators in Australia, I believe I don't know I'm not sure about that But I do know that they they show cats in their hunting magazines.
02:23:36.000Yeah, they're hunting magazines dudes hold up cats like I got one mate and Like, and they think it's cool, but it's the same as in America if you killed, like, a coyote that's killing all the neighborhood pets.
02:23:47.000People would, like, shoot it with a bow and arrow and then take a picture of it and they'd be happy.
02:23:51.000Yeah, good, you got that fucking kitty-cat-eating coyote.
02:23:54.000But that's how these people are in Australia with the cats.
02:27:01.000I'm one of the very few people in Hollywood or anywhere in the world that can say, I lost a job because people had a drink cum on TV. Yeah, that's true.
02:31:57.000And it's, the thing is, it's also an important tool for conservation because they really do need to keep those populations down, especially in Alberta.
02:32:22.000Jamie played that video of that guy that's sitting, he's a photographer, and he's by a river, and the bear wanders up to him, and then they pan out to the rest of the river, and you see like a dozen grizzlies wandering through this river, jacking all these salmon.
02:33:40.000You smoke some of that devil's cabbage, and you sit in front of the old Netflix, and you watch Grizzly Man, because it is a goddamn unintentional comedy.
02:34:19.000He thought he was retarded because after the guy got eaten by the bear, because he was up there like way past when you're supposed to be up there too.
02:37:36.000Cam's shooting the most ridiculously powerful setup we were practicing today, and it's just so evident that these heavy arrows, so much momentum.
02:37:59.000We were doing this a long time ago on a podcast, and then I was driving home, and I was like, Jesus Christ, do we say grams when I meant grains?
02:38:05.000And then we were trying to figure out how many grams were in an ounce, and they were determining that it was a pound.
02:38:46.000But, yeah, we have our buddy Adam that we were talking about before that lives in Australia, and when Cam goes over there, you're going to be hunting stag over there, right?
02:41:08.000Here's a good illustration of having, I don't know what I'm trying to promote here, but a hard-hitting arrow.
02:41:17.000Because if you watch, when I shoot this buffalo, the arrow arcs up and actually hits the branch and ricochets and still kills that buffalo.