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00:01:22.000It's like these people don't understand.
00:01:23.000Never respond to someone who's like way less than you.
00:01:27.000Basically, I called her parents war criminals and she was like, yeah, you know, I should have listened more during the 2003 Iraq war to the anti-war activists.
00:01:38.000But she initially called people who were protesting the Afghanistan war and like the AUMF anti-American.
00:01:45.000And so she was like, yeah, because there was a story that came out that said Chelsea Clinton, actually with like American flags and all these things, like went and disrupted an anti-war protest after 9-11.
00:01:57.000Yeah, like a group of like patriots, including Chelsea Clinton.
00:02:06.000So then people were calling her out and being like, you know, like mother, like daughter, because there's stories of Hillary Clinton really working hard to quell the protests, the Vietnam War protests on campus and stuff, as the president of the Young Republicans Club.
00:02:48.000She just said, she was like, you know, I wasn't really, she was like, I don't think that people protesting the Afghanistan war anti-American.
00:02:54.000She was like, you know, 140 characters, limiting.
00:02:57.000I was like, do you see that I just called your parents war criminals and you're actually responding to me?
00:03:13.000The country's an imperialist warmongering country that's killed millions of people, usurp the democratic processes of dozens of countries, and the world actually thinks that America's the number one threat to global peace.
00:03:24.000So, I actually agree with the Americans you denounced, Chelsea.
00:03:55.000Well, it's like, the problem is, as soon as you engage in someone that's calling anyone who is absolutely responsible for death a war criminal, as soon as you engage, it's like, well, then you have to define what do you think is a war criminal?
00:04:12.000I mean, like, you could kind of call any president ever a war criminal, except for maybe Jimmy Carter.
00:04:18.000Jimmy Carter gets slippery because he was really a peaceful man in a really weird situation.
00:04:23.000And I think a lot of people capitalized on that weakness, including Ronald Reagan, which is the reason why the hostages in Iran weren't even released until after Reagan took office.
00:04:35.000It's a crazy story because they literally kept those people prisoner and negotiated with their release based on Ronald Reagan winning the election to make him look better.
00:05:00.000It was almost as good, the Chelsea Clinton recognition, as when John McCain tweeted a segment that I did about him on Breaking the Set, which was like the most scathing segment, calling him a senile, like crazy war criminal, like sadistic fuck.
00:05:32.000But, God, did you hear about all the DNI report, that intelligence report, that basically claimed that I, along with another show, cost Hillary Clinton the election?
00:05:41.000I mean, this intelligence report came out.
00:05:43.000After months and months, everyone's waiting with bated breath, thinking, okay, we're finally going to get evidence that Russia hacked the election, right?
00:05:50.000This claim that Russia hacked the election.
00:05:51.000And then they come out with this report.
00:06:27.000They said that that was when, like, Russia had begun to foment, like, all this dissent and trying to, you know, discredit American democracy.
00:06:37.000Like, that's when Russia really, like, began the propaganda campaign was when my show, I was like the vector.
00:06:43.000I was like this person that was put in there and started to unravel democracy from inside out.
00:06:59.000Of course they're going to cover Putin in a positive light.
00:07:01.000The crazy thing is that the intelligence report essentially said that covering real issues, like covering greed and fracking, are Russian propaganda talking points.
00:07:10.000And that was really bad because you're calling reality propaganda.
00:07:14.000Like, people are living in poverty in this country.
00:07:23.000What is slippery though working for something like RT if they are going to view Putin in a positive light, but they are going to criticize Clinton?
00:07:33.000Are you happy you're not there anymore?
00:07:35.000I am happy that I'm doing the reporting that I'm doing, which is more just on the ground investigation.
00:07:40.000Since I last saw you, I've been to Palestine.
00:07:43.000Now I finally really have a sense of these issues that I was covering from the studio and feel like I know them more after going and talking to the people in the communities and stuff like that.
00:07:52.000So the journalism is definitely much better.
00:08:16.000When does a billionaire become a globalist?
00:08:19.000Because why is Rex Tillerson not a globalist?
00:08:22.000He's the ExxonMobil CEO. Good question.
00:08:26.000This whole thing about Soros is this globalist and all these people are against the globalists, yet Trump, it's totally fine to have Rex Tillerson and all these Goldman Sachs bankers in the government.
00:09:28.000So she, her and her, I think her husband's name's Dick.
00:09:32.000But she married into this, like, education privatization scheme where it's like a super right-wing religious extremist education privatization thing where they're trying to, like, get vouchers for creationism and all these things, like private schooling that teaches creationism.
00:09:49.000And so they funneled the Betsy DeVos, like, family...
00:09:53.000I forget what the organization's called, but they've funneled millions and millions of dollars into this scam.
00:09:59.000Meanwhile, her brother, Eric Prince, you know what he's been doing?
00:10:02.000I mean, he's now working for like Qatar, Saudi Arabia.
00:10:04.000I think it's the UAE, United Arab Emirates.
00:10:08.000And I think he literally, when Arab Spring broke out, he took his whole business over there.
00:10:14.000He's like, listen, there's a way to prevent this, boy.
00:10:19.000So they have like a private militant group over there or rather a mercenary group over there that's kind of running their army.
00:10:28.000It's like this family is working together to create these like obedient Christianized soldier children who are growing up in schools thinking that You know, the kingdom and the messiah are going to come.
00:10:40.000And when she was in the confirmation hearing, of course, she was the only one that actually wasn't confirmed and Mike Pence had to do the tiebreaker because everyone was like, she's the most unqualified fucking person.
00:10:52.000Why is she even like in the running here?
00:10:54.000And she lied multiple times in the hearing.
00:10:56.000She was like, yeah, no, that was a clerical error when it said that I was vice president or on the board of this organization, which is this right wing extremist hate mongering organization that's Funnel millions of dollars to knock down all the gay marriage propositions in all these states and stuff like that.
00:11:12.000So she lied and said she wasn't on the board.
00:11:13.000But really, when you look at the paperwork, she was on the board for like 10 years or something.
00:11:17.000I mean, how could a clerical error happen that long?
00:13:03.000It's crazy because you could be on OxyContin and all sorts of disassociative drugs, SSRIs, which are almost entirely connected to school shootings and mass shootings.
00:13:13.000If you look at mass shootings, The vast majority of them either were on psych meds or have been on psych meds or off psych meds.
00:13:21.000And of course, then the argument, the real scientific argument is, you know, that they're not necessarily the cause, you know, that causation and correlation are not necessarily connected.
00:13:32.000So no one knows exactly why those people do that.
00:13:36.000But if you've ever talked to someone who's on like Zoloft or anything, one of the problems is there's a disassociation with reality and that nothing bothers you anymore.
00:13:46.000Like I had a friend who was on it and she was telling me like, she's like, I could come home and my house could be on fire.
00:13:51.000And I'd be like, oh, my house is on fire.
00:14:22.000How many people they just throw on those goddamn things, and I know that some people benefit from them.
00:14:29.000I've had friends that benefit from them.
00:14:30.000I know there's a positive, but I gotta think there's too many people that are going right to them and not exercising, not changing their diet, not trying to meditate, not trying to seek some sort of a positive avenue for their life and their energy and see if that has any effect on their depression.
00:16:24.000But there is a medical use for cocaine.
00:16:26.000There's a medical use for heroin, opiates, things along those lines.
00:16:31.000So I think they have different designations because of that, because they still refuse to admit there's a medical use for marijuana, despite all the millions of people using it for positive, including kids with epilepsy.
00:16:46.000I have a good friend who has a kid that had severe seizures, and there was nothing they could do about it until they started giving him, they would give him hash and like a piece of melon.
00:16:56.000You know, like, and all of a sudden, gone.
00:16:59.000Like all seizures, and he's more communicative, he's more responsive, he's got like pretty severe cognitive issues.
00:17:51.000Yeah, and how in that article, it said that the South passed all of these anti-cocaine laws after the race riots, and then they were, like, scared.
00:17:59.000And then in San Francisco, they passed an opium ordinance targeting Chinese people.
00:18:03.000So it was, like, kind of racially bent back in the day.
00:18:05.000But, of course, weed was never an industry behind it, so they just...
00:19:11.000And the vast majority of Americans just totally want legal recreational marijuana.
00:19:16.000Well, that's the only thing holding that Sessions guy back, is that 57% of Americans support legalized recreational marijuana, which is just unprecedented.
00:19:26.000And that's people willing to answer polls.
00:19:28.000I would venture that if you really got down and dirty with a bunch of people like you and I that aren't answering polls, I bet you're going way over 70%.
00:19:35.000Because it just doesn't make any sense.
00:19:37.000And when D.C. passed the law, it was overwhelming.
00:19:40.000And that's where all the legislators are.
00:19:41.000Like, obviously they want it too, so what the hell is holding us back here?
00:19:44.000You guys are in D.C. You all smoke weed.
00:19:47.000There's a massive amount of money that's still being spent by really odd groups, like prison guard lobbies.
00:20:25.000I mean, as a comedian, I mean, I know that like the alt-right is kind of blended in with like this anti-PC culture that I think comedians relate to, but like, do you just wake up and think like, holy shit, Donald Trump is the president ever?
00:21:49.000The EPA standards, that's some spooky shit, because that's literally the ground that we grow our food in, the water that we drink, the air that we breathe, is one of the most important things, but it becomes this ideological issue between right and left, where right wants work and jobs and industry,
00:22:15.000That if you're on the right, you're supposed to, if not deny climate change, you're supposed to ignore it at the very least.
00:22:22.000And if you're on the left, you're supposed to be a tree hugger and a hippie and you're supposed to be all about clean water.
00:22:28.000The fact that these people can make these distinctions like that and then figure out a way to make money despite that you're poisoning the Mother Earth, it's insane.
00:23:49.000So that means the people that remain are going to leave.
00:23:51.000Because look, if you cut out 31% and then 25% of the workforce, that means you're cutting out more money than you are cutting out people.
00:23:59.000So I guarantee you that's going to equate to people leaving.
00:24:04.000Yeah, and the whole, like, climate accords or whatever that, you know, the US is not only the biggest polluter, the Pentagon pollutes more than any other entity in the world, but...
00:24:16.000All the billions of plastic debris in the ocean, all the fucking bombs exploding, God knows what we're doing around the world.
00:24:23.000But yeah, I mean, when the Pentagon's the biggest polluter, and then you pull out of the Paris Accords or whatever, like, Trump was just like, yeah, We're going to pull out of that climate change agreement.
00:24:32.000It's like, well, who's going to hold it together then?
00:25:05.000Well, it would be good if you streamlined the business and tried to make it more practical and cut out waste and bureaucracy and red tape and made it better for everybody.
00:25:16.000But as soon as you start saying things like, we're going to shut down all those satellites that track global warming.
00:25:52.000If you look at every department, Rick Perry, the guy who's, you know, we go from Dancing with the Stars to now he's in charge of the department he wanted to abolish.
00:26:48.000I mean, the whole thing is like a reality show.
00:26:50.000Looking back on it, I do think, you know, I believed all the polls and I was, I don't know why, because they're, you know, it's coming from like this ivory tower elite who's totally out of touch with the rest of the country.
00:27:00.000But I really did believe that Trump had no chance because I thought Hillary would Steal the vote.
00:27:04.000I mean, if it came down to it, I'm like, they have measures in place to really lock this down.
00:28:03.000Let me ask you this, because you're a journalist.
00:28:06.000What did you think about that WikiLeaks claim that the young man who was murdered in Washington, D.C. was the guy who gave them the info on the DNC? Seth Riker or whatever.
00:28:19.000If people don't know the story, he was a young guy who was working for the DNC. He was murdered at like 3 o'clock in the morning or something crazy.
00:28:26.000They shot him in the back and they didn't take anything from him.
00:28:30.000They didn't take his wallet, his phone, his cash.
00:30:02.000Well, you know, that guy's like super problematic.
00:30:05.000Regardless of how ridiculous the Pizzagate thing is and what's real and what's not real, what is real is that him and his brother were close friends with Dennis Hastert, who was the Speaker of the House, who was fucking kids for decades.
00:30:20.000Fact, that he's in jail for fucking kids.
00:30:35.000Look at Alan Dershowitz, Trump, and Bill Clinton were on the Lolita Express with that billionaire, that rape plane that had like a bunch of underage girls.
00:30:55.000Whistleblowers go through significant efforts to get us material, often very significant risks.
00:31:00.000A 27-year-old that works for the DNC was shot in the back, murdered just two weeks ago for unknown reasons as he was walking down the street in Washington.
00:31:07.000So, and the guy says, Anchor, that was just a robbery.
00:32:21.000We all know that that's not really true.
00:32:23.000The thing about the Pizzagate thing is there's a lot of weird shit there.
00:32:26.000Like the little international child molesting symbol was a part of their logo.
00:32:31.000All the weird artwork that that guy owned.
00:32:34.000You know, I did a whole expose on Podesta, and he is a bougie chef, so it's not surprising that he would talk about pizza as being some, like, really highbrow chef, and they, like, pride themselves on how they cook all these expensive dinners and have these dinner parties, and then the spirit cooking thing is,
00:32:50.000like, they're really into this, like, elitist, subversive art scene, and so they have, yeah, they have weird-ass art, and it's really creepy, and What about the emails where they were talking about little kids coming over and getting in the jacuzzi and hanging out with them?
00:33:03.000The kids were going to come over and entertain them?
00:33:20.000Because I feel like what's out there right now seems pretty self-explanatory.
00:33:24.000It's like the art and the cooking stuff.
00:33:26.000I agree with you, but little kids coming over the house and getting in the jacuzzi like that little kids are coming over for entertainment Did you ever read that?
00:33:34.000I read the email it did and it seemed like they're just really out of touch with how to talk about like their child fucking They need to mask it better.
00:34:35.000Okay, we plan to heat the pool so a swim is a possibility.
00:34:39.000Bonnie will Uber service to transport Ruby Emerson and Maeve Lazon, whatever, 11-9 and almost 7, so you'll have some further entertainment and they will be in that pool for sure.
00:35:55.000Bannon also worked for a bunch of child molesters at IGE, this internet gaming entertainment company that just like mined virtual resources in World of Warcraft games and would sell them.
00:36:05.000And he was like a money bundler for Goldman Sachs because he's a Goldman Sachs shill.
00:36:09.000And he was working for like all the people on the board were just pedophiles.
00:36:32.000But what do you think about, you know, Trump being really one of the first people who's won a political office that has catered to, like, the conspiracy crowds and conspiracy culture and the Alex Jones crowd and all the conspiracy culture...
00:36:43.000Well, I liken it to how Ronald Reagan figured out that if you court the Christian right, they will vote for you.
00:36:48.000I mean, there's a whole market in that.
00:37:17.000And as long as he gets on Alex's show and doesn't say anything too fucking crazy, like, those people are like, I can't believe the president is with Alex!
00:37:24.000You get those people, and then you get the people that don't like Alex.
00:37:54.000He knew how to play the audience, Bannon knew exactly how to work the media, too.
00:37:58.000It's fascinating to cultivate that Alex Jones crowd because people are analyzing the results of the election and wondering, you know, how did he win?
00:38:49.000This is one of the real problems with the left.
00:38:52.000There's a real problem with these really hardcore lefties that are outraged and want to do something and they want to be positive.
00:38:58.000So they want to shut down all these people like Milo that they think are Nazis or Ann Coulter and all these people.
00:39:04.000But by doing that and by having these gigantic protests and literally shutting down people communicating and talking, you invite people to resist that.
00:39:14.000And then you start these anti-fub people who hit people in the head with fucking bike locks.
00:39:20.000You see, they found out it was a professor.
00:39:21.000That was hitting people in the head with bike locks.
00:39:25.000This is going to have people show up and want to hit you with something.
00:39:50.000And so I feel like to provoke the Antifa block where you know that they're like really strategically oriented and keep going to Berkeley and keep going to Berkeley and then making it like this big free speech blowout where it's like why do you keep going and like creating the situation?
00:40:06.000It seems like a manufactured thing and then at the end of the day it makes the left easier to demonize and basically protests Easier to demonize, where now you have 200 people facing felony riot charges at the inauguration protests, and a couple of them are just journalists who are filming,
00:40:22.000and all the Trump people are like, whatever, they're fucking rioting, and they're fascists, and they're Antifa.
00:40:27.000It's like, well, because this happened in Berkeley, now, like, all protesters are, you know, they're scapegoated to these people.
00:40:34.000Well, certainly, it's easy to demonize.
00:40:36.000It's easy to box people in, but I think what's going on in Berkeley is it's the most outrageously liberal place in the country.
00:40:43.000I mean, Berkeley is and always has been.
00:40:45.000If you go there, it's so lefty that it's a great target.
00:40:50.000It's a great place to get things popping.
00:40:52.000So if I was Milo or if I was Ann Coulter, and what does Ann Coulter do?
00:41:40.000Just like we were talking about how Reagan sort of mobilized the right-wing conservative people that were Christians that really weren't about politics before that.
00:41:58.000It's kind of like a bait-and-switch, this whole Milo-Berkeley thing, because they know exactly what's going to happen when they go there, and then, of course, that's exactly what happens, and then they can use it to be like, free speech, free speech.
00:42:13.000I mean, he knows exactly what he's doing.
00:42:15.000And Milo, at one point in time, by the way, was a guy who was very anti-hate speech.
00:42:23.000You know, and it was very anti shutting down people who are writing things to hurt people people like pulled quotes of his from the past Which is interesting because I mean, I'm sure people's philosophies changed.
00:42:35.000I'm sure mine have and yours have but this is like one more piece of evidence that what you're seeing with a lot of people that are in the public eye that are involved in this whole political arena is You're seeing their working angles.
00:42:51.000Okay, let's go that way And you can justify it.
00:42:53.000Look, I could justify a lot of different angles.
00:42:55.000If I wanted to do that, if I wanted to be an anti-Trump protester, an anti-free speech protester, if I wanted to be a person who thinks that free speech should be limited because hate speech is not protected by the Constitution, like Howard Dean just said.
00:44:08.000You know, and just thrown out, and everybody is sort of repeating it over and over and over again, and I just don't think he thought about it when he was saying it.
00:44:15.000He doesn't think about it a lot, yeah.
00:44:18.000Yes, it was about Ann Coulter's upcoming speech in Vermont.
00:44:22.000The Vermont DNC chair, Howard Dean, elaborated on his argument that Ann Coulter's upcoming speech at Berkeley does not have to occur because hate speech, in quotes, is not protected by the First Amendment.
00:44:54.000Because if you want to have debates or you want to have speeches, you can't stop people in Berkeley from coming and protesting you or heckling you.
00:45:02.000It's such a fundamental idea that we all know that in order to, if you're going to have a discussion with someone, you have to let that person establish, this is what debates are about, right?
00:45:15.000Let that person establish their position and then give your counter to that position.
00:45:19.000This is like so firmly established in the way we communicate and the way we go over ideas.
00:45:25.000That is essentially the marketplace of ideas.
00:46:47.000But if you don't debate them, if you shut down their speech, If you stop, then they can frame what they were going to say in a very different way.
00:46:57.000They can gather sympathy with people who are more pro-speech, more pro-free speech, than they are anti what you're saying.
00:47:05.000Yeah, I think that they still are, like we were saying before, Nazis still have rallies.
00:47:09.000No one's shutting down these from a government level, so I think the whole censorship thing is not relevant to this situation, because that really does mean the black end of the state coming down and blocking you, and instead we have what we see Antifa Blocking, like, physically these venues,
00:47:26.000but it's not like these people are blocked from having venues or access or speech platforms.
00:48:05.000One person has an allotted time where they can express themselves, then the other person has an allotted time where they can counter, and you're not allowed to chime in, you're not allowed to interrupt, you're not allowed to in any way disrupt this person's flow of ideas, then there should be a time set aside where you could go back and forth with each other.
00:48:25.000And unless you do it that way, you're going to involve the cult of personality.
00:48:30.000You're going to involve the cheers from the crowds.
00:48:32.000You're going to involve all these different people that can organize to sway things one way or another.
00:48:37.000All this, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down.
00:48:40.000And it gets as ridiculous as like Jordan Peterson's speeches.
00:48:43.000I'm sure you've seen that professor of University of Toronto that doesn't want to use all these made-up gender pronouns.
00:48:59.000Council, and they've decided that these 78 or whatever the fuck they are, however many they decide on, gender pronouns, that if you don't use them, if someone says, you know, I want you to call me Foxkin 26, but for real, like, if you don't do that,
00:49:15.000you're imposing on their human rights.
00:49:18.000Other people have debated him and say that though that's not how it should be interpreted but he's like a very staunch critic of Marxism and he understands the the real ideology of Marxism and how it went horribly wrong all throughout the world throughout history and That he thinks that what you're trying to do when you when you're invoking When you're asking the government to tell people what they must or must not say,
00:49:44.000that you are going down this road, this very dangerous road of cultural Marxism.
00:49:50.000Because I've heard this said a lot, and I actually have no idea what the hell it means, because Marxism is simply a critique on capitalism.
00:49:57.000So I don't understand this whole cultural Marxism...
00:50:00.000And how it has anything to do with gender pronouns, but let's check it out.
00:50:03.000Well, you'd have to talk to Peterson about how it...
00:50:05.000But he makes a very compelling argument about how the two of them are connected.
00:50:09.000Essentially, what people are trying to do is control your behavior, and they're trying to, in some way, force you to behave the way they would like you to behave.
00:50:19.000Even if it's a preposterous thing, like making up words, and you have to call them this...
00:50:29.000Which is, you know, plurals, which is fine.
00:50:31.000I mean, like, that's a real word, you know, if you want to use it in an incorrect way.
00:50:35.000And it does get used, like, you know, it does use, like, if anybody wants to use the bathroom, they can go ahead.
00:50:42.000You can be using that in a singular term, you know, and it's non-gender specific.
00:50:57.000I can't really find a great definition for it.
00:50:59.000There's a couple, like, the Google search says there's a couple things calling it a conspiracy theory.
00:51:05.000But the Urban Dictionary definition, this isn't like the obvious.
00:51:09.000Social political movement that promotes unreason and irrationality through the guise of various causes often promoted by so-called social justice.
00:51:19.000These causes and their proponents are often contradictory and are almost always never rooted in fact.
00:51:26.000Indeed, true argument or discussion with proponents of these causes is almost impossible, as most attempts at discourse descend quickly into shouting, name-calling, and chanting of slogans.
00:51:39.000Otherwise known as the regressive left, a play on the contradictory nature.
00:51:43.000I think that this seems to be like a hub of the alt-right, where this is founded on this reactionary movement on PC culture, on things like the gender pronouns thing.
00:51:52.000And it seems like there's no real political ideology behind what is the alt-right other than just a reaction to this, like, I don't want to conform to this progressive, whatever, cultural Marxism.
00:52:08.000What bothers me right now is just the empire fucking killing people in my name and Trump being a disgusting war criminal who's flip-flopped on all the shit that he said that he's going to do.
00:52:17.000That's a different argument, but you're absolutely right.
00:53:32.000The issue of free speech, the issue of not having people enforce whatever ideology that they have on you that you have to Behave the way they want you to and communicate they want you to, or you're a bigot, or you're a Nazi.
00:53:49.000Meanwhile, there's actual Christian evangelicals employing top-down policy that's actually telling people, here's how education's going to be run, here's how you're going to be indoctrinated.
00:53:57.000Like, that's what I feel like we're really missing the boat here.
00:54:00.000All these, like, new atheists who agree with what you're saying, like, don't want to be policed and are more, like, in line with Trump.
00:54:07.000How come they're not speaking out against, like, the Christian evangelical hold over this administration?
00:54:12.000Well, which ones are you talking about?
00:54:45.000It's like you're not even choosing the lesser of two evils.
00:54:48.000You're choosing incompetence versus this radical right-wing Christian ideology that we were terrified of in the beginning or from the beginning.
00:54:58.000It's like Ted Cruz would have been a terrible president, but many people now think he would have been a better president than Donald Trump.
00:55:05.000And Ted Cruz and Mike Pence would never have won because they're disgusting creatures.
00:55:09.000And Ted Cruz is the creepiest motherfucker I've ever seen where he actually tweeted a photo of a cow made out of butter and said, look at this cow.
00:55:18.000And he was like, my daughter's first word was butter.
00:56:10.000I saw this chart of how many times, like, you know, this is kind of a stupid thing because I'm not opposed to, like, taking vacations or golfing or whatever, but the amount that he's gone, where he's just, like, gone half the week in Mar-a-Lago, like, golfing.
00:56:22.000They've spent $10 million so far in the first hundred days.
00:56:27.000Trump spent almost as much money as Obama did in an entire year.
00:56:36.000He's so pampered he can't even get away from this world that he's a part of where he has to go to his fucking country club and be surrounded by billionaires.
00:56:43.000Well, it's also so incredibly hypocritical because he was constantly complaining about Obama taking vacations and going golfing.
00:56:51.000You look at the first hundred days of Clinton, Bush, Obama, and him, it's like no one has done this.
00:56:55.000I think Obama maybe went golfing once in the first hundred days, and Trump is like every week, four out of seven days, he's just like gone.
00:57:02.000It's like, who's running the country here?
00:57:32.000Remember how weird that was when he would have all these props, like the steaks and the manila folders and all these things, like the magazines and shit?
00:58:06.000He goes, we were talking about, he asked me to find like a suitable representative of the alt-right to come on his show and sort of talk about these ideas.
00:59:11.000And he's trying to figure out a way where that empowers him.
00:59:15.000I find it interesting like the Tommy Lauren thing was fired because she was pro-choice it's like that went too far for the blaze you know like the pedophilia things too far for for the alt-right I was thinking that about Hillary Clinton how crazy would it be if Chelsea Clinton went to work for the blaze oh god if she just started she started going super hardcore right and she's got two flags motorcycle jacket on pearly whites Hey,
00:59:39.000just go interrupt those anti-war demonstrations again, Chelsea.
01:00:07.000Well, I think he's incredibly impulsive.
01:00:09.000I mean, that's sort of been established that he's very impulsive.
01:00:12.000So I also think that he's got this desire to be a strong leader and to be a guy who makes strong decisions and it's not going to take any bullshit.
01:00:25.000Because when you really find out how much the power the president has in terms of like launching a nuclear strike, And then you look at the conflict that we're getting into with North Korea.
01:01:05.000And we're also the closest, I guess, we would be the target for China.
01:01:11.000I guess we would be the target for a lot of places.
01:01:14.000Yeah, let's talk about this North Korea thing really quickly, because the media is painting it like North Korea, like we're going to strike back, really.
01:01:21.000When North Korea has repeatedly said, we will never strike the US ever, we'll never strike anyone unless we're attacked.
01:01:27.000What are they doing that we're so intense with them right now?
01:01:39.000And we have historical amnesia where Americans don't know geography until we bomb somewhere, right?
01:01:44.000So we have completely no memory about the Korean War, where the US military invaded North Korea Most people don't even know.
01:02:12.000Like, they don't even think about, why is there a North and a South Korea?
01:02:15.000Like, what the fuck is this, you know?
01:02:18.000So, Kim Jong-un, obviously, probably what he's learned by now, in terms of U.S. empire, imperialism, and interventions, is that you have to not only act like you will use nukes, like you have to have nukes, and you have to act like you will use them if you get attacked, unless you want to get invaded.
01:02:34.000Look what happened with Gaddafi, Saddam, all these things.
01:02:37.000Assad, you give up your chemical weapons, and then it doesn't matter.
01:02:44.000I'm terrified of this whole North Korea conflict, as I think everybody is.
01:02:48.000It's a terrifying place, first of all, because it's one of the last really obvious military dictatorships in this country, in the world, rather.
01:02:59.000It's one of the ones that's like, you can see, they're so extreme.
01:03:03.000You see them goose-stepping, walking down the street.
01:03:05.000You see the people wailing in agony when Kim Jong-il died.
01:03:10.000Like, it's a very, very strange world where people are born in prison and they live as prisoners their whole life and some of them have escaped and detailed the horrors of the prisons and what's going on over there.
01:03:22.000That's what worries me is because it won't be hard to sell.
01:03:31.000So, like, yeah, I guess we should just do regime change there.
01:03:33.000Well, that's what I was going to get to, is what you had said before the podcast started, that it's a massive reserve of minerals in North Korea.
01:03:42.000And this is what you and I were talking about, conflict minerals and phones, before the podcast started.
01:03:56.000That's probably why we're still fucking there, to be honest.
01:03:58.00016 years later, we dropped that mother of all bombs, that dick measuring contest that Trump just laid his dick out on the table and was like, I'm going to drop this giant fucking bomb, dust it off from the shelf.
01:05:15.000And it was like, and then Fareed Zakaria, you know, here they are telling us that Trump is a mentally unfit puppet of Russia who's retarded, yet the second he starts bombing, it's like, oh, love at first strike.
01:05:26.000Like, he started bombing Assad, now we all love him.
01:05:28.000Rachel Maddow has been talking the last 30 days or three months, six months, about how he needs to be impeached, he's guided by Putin, and then the second he started bombing Syria, oh, it becomes a commercial for Tomahawk missiles.
01:05:39.000Rachel Maddow did a 30-minute segment just analyzing how efficient Tomahawk missiles are.
01:06:03.000Joe, that's how I became a journalist because I saw the Iraq war being sold by quote leftists or liberals on TV and I just couldn't understand why they were selling a completely insane unnecessary illegal war.
01:06:14.000Well, there was a lot of people that were selling it, or at least in support of it, because we were really terrified after 9-11.
01:06:20.000So after 9-11, there was this movement to do something, and this massive amount of people that ordinarily would have a lot of distrust towards the right, they all of a sudden were trusting in Bush and trusting in the government to go and take adequate measures.
01:06:37.000You're not supposed to be a stenographer because you're scared.
01:06:39.000That's like the time that you're supposed to step up and say, okay, I need to question my government's claims because we're in such a state of hysteria and acquiescence that I need to, as a journalist, question authority, question my government.
01:06:50.000That's the number one job that you have.
01:07:07.000I mean, I agreed with the Afghanistan war at the time because I didn't really know.
01:07:10.000And then I went into college and learned about what the fuck this government and country has been doing to the rest of the world and what militarism and empire has been doing.
01:07:58.000So, like, if you wanted to sell something, she's your huckleberry.
01:08:02.000And she was trying to sell that Russia shit real hard.
01:08:04.000I mean, she talked more about Russia than any other issue.
01:08:06.000And that's the problem with this so-called resistance, is that when you focus on a fake issue, like Russia usurping Trump's brain or, like, occupying Trump's brain and puppeting him, then you forget about all the rapid-fire executive orders he's throwing down.
01:08:20.000You aren't focusing on the real important things that he's doing that we could actually galvanize and stop.
01:08:25.000And especially when you're just pro-war.
01:08:27.000These motherfuckers are funded by defense contractors and banks.
01:09:18.000His speeches are almost like a parody of a guy who is...
01:09:23.000It's almost like an old Christian Slater movie about a guy who's got some sort of a ham radio thing and he's fighting against the oppressive government.
01:12:07.000I stopped watching when it became really like all about the Putin character because you know first Frank Underwood's like he kills a journalist and then...
01:12:42.000Because I look at them as a unit, just like the Underwoods, you know, and they work together where Clinton even admitted that Hillary was the one who sold the Yugoslavia bombing and stuff.
01:12:50.000And she was like, I'm going to appoint Bill to run the economy.
01:16:33.000It was before Trump got elected, but it's hysterical.
01:16:36.000His stuff on gun control is really, really funny.
01:16:39.000And he's doing it to like a Houston audience where it's a lot of Trump supporters and he just goes balls to the wall like everyone's walking out.
01:18:52.000It's like, I think scholars, educators, people who actually understand the consequences of these ideological structures that we're trapped in.
01:19:03.000Left versus right is a structure because they provide you with a predetermined pattern of behavior that you adopt.
01:19:11.000And there's many, many easily influenced people that go super hardcore right or super hardcore left because they want Social brownie points within the structure and that's a natural part of being a human it's a natural part of tribal behavior and It has to be addressed and it has to be addressed openly it has to be addressed from an Understanding a fundamental understanding about the way the human mind works and the way the human psychology works and our need for social acceptance works There's
01:19:41.000a lot of the way we behave that's just based and predicated on these really simple obvious principles that everybody knows peer pressure The desire to be loved, those things all play a massive part in how you're manipulated and how you manipulate yourself.
01:19:57.000You convince yourself of certain things.
01:19:59.000I really firmly believe that when you go super hard right and super hard left, the distance between these two is not nearly as far as you think.
01:20:09.000And that the ideological point of views and what they want and what they're trying to accomplish is very different, but the way they think The way they've locked themselves into these predetermined thought patterns.
01:20:25.000They just were indoctrinated one way or indoctrinated another way.
01:20:29.000They might have gone through the church system or they might have gone through the university system, but they've sort of both taken these hardline stances, whereas the reality of the world and of most reasonable people is there's a lot of weirdness and there's a lot of Yeah,
01:21:09.000Don't they have like 16 different political parties or something crazy?
01:21:12.000It's insane that we have this two-party dictatorship and I was reading this quote from Chris Hedges that really says it all.
01:21:18.000It's like exactly what you're saying right now.
01:21:20.000You have, you know, conservatives across the country who are worried about abortion and obsessing about these issues and then you have the liberals in New York who are obsessing about creationism in schools.
01:21:29.000Meanwhile, Goldman Sachs continues to fucking win.
01:21:43.000And it's, yeah, like you were just saying, I mean, why do we have a system that props up these two parties that, going back to the corporate media, continues to sell war after war, continues to just sell off our government to corporations?
01:21:55.000It's just the matter of which they do so.
01:22:00.000Anytime you have one person or one organization that has control over a group, whether it's a dictatorship, whether it's a government, it's like, what is a government for?
01:22:11.000Is it to control groups of people or is it to provide people with services like schools and utilities and infrastructure?
01:23:11.000I mean, every country with a military tries to enforce that military in some way, shape, or form on other countries.
01:23:18.000I mean, it's gone on since the beginning of time, as far as people getting together in groups and then going over and conquering other people that have resources.
01:23:28.000Well, some people would say it's the it's the system, the economic system that once you control one area, you have to move capital and extract capital from other areas through force through military force.
01:23:39.000And that's the extension of imperialism through capitalism.
01:23:42.000And then so you just go and now we're the biggest, most powerful empire controlling the entire world.
01:23:47.000And we have to go after the last remaining sovereign, quote unquote, sovereign states to completely control.
01:23:53.000I mean, yes, other countries have done that before, but never on the level of what we're doing.
01:23:58.000If we could just get everybody to speak English and everybody to listen to us, we would be fine.
01:24:03.000What we need to do is wipe out all the other cultures.
01:24:06.000We need to just wipe out all the other languages.
01:25:44.000It's part of the whole thing with the internet, is like these little 140-character soundbites you're getting off Twitter, but then the fact that it's coming at you from websites, it's coming at you from Facebook, it's coming at you from Instagram, it's just coming at you in a way that,
01:25:59.000like, there's no fucking way you can keep up with all this.
01:27:42.000It's supposed to be the foulest thing on Earth, and they love it.
01:27:45.000It's almost kind of like the moon, where you're like, there's not even insects here, so you understand why they have to import all their fisheries.
01:39:23.000Just a short bunch of essays on things, but they wanted this is what they asked me to do They asked me to transcribe my stand-up once they were like they read some of my writing because I used to do a lot of blogs and I used to put up a lot of blogs on my website and I put them on Online and some other venues.
01:39:40.000And they were like, hey, we want to give you a book deal and we'll just write whatever you want to watch.
01:40:30.000I go tell them we're giving the money back and they like a fucking serious Yeah, I'm giving them their money back.
01:40:34.000I don't want to do it That's crazy that they would actually change like the language of what you how you would even write I'm never gonna do it again That way.
01:40:42.000If I do do it again, if I do write a book, I'm going to write a book, and then I'm going to sell the book, or I'm going to put the book online if nobody wants to buy it.
01:40:49.000If nobody wants to buy it and turn it into a book, I'm going to go, okay, this is the book.
01:40:54.000You can think it sucks, but at least it sucks, and it came from my head and my fingers.
01:40:59.000Like, I'm going to write it, I'm going to think it.
01:41:01.000You can totally think it sucks, and you don't want it.
01:41:05.000The reality of things is, when someone creates something, it's going to resonate with a certain amount of people, and other people are going to hate it.
01:41:12.000There's fucking music that I think is terrible, and people love it.
01:41:17.000They go to see these concerts that you would have to strap me to a chair and pry my eyes open like clockwork orange for me to sit there and watch it.
01:41:54.000But as long as I'm actually paying attention to it, as long as I'm actually sitting there and I'm actually going over it and editing it and thinking about it myself and practicing it on stage, I don't want your opinion.
01:42:10.000If the book came out and it sucked, then people would be like, you suck!
01:42:14.000You're like, no, it actually isn't me, it's this ghostwriter and he sucks!
01:42:18.000Well, I think a movie has to be a collaboration, right?
01:42:20.000Like, if you're doing a movie, you have actors, you have writers, you have directors, you have producers, you have the people that are giving you the money.
01:42:28.000That's got to be a goddamn nightmare, because there's a lot of different cooks in that kitchen.
01:42:33.000But that makes sense to me, that you have to collaborate with these people.
01:42:36.000Say if you're playing some chick in some movie, and you have this idea of how it's supposed to be, and that's how you audition.
01:42:44.000But then you get on set, and the director's like, Abby, what I want you to do is play a Chinese lady in the 1500s.
01:43:52.000I want to get her in a room with Sam Harris, though, because she hates Sam Harris, and she thinks Sam Harris wants to fucking bomb every country where brown people live.
01:44:04.000Like, she wants to take things so far.
01:44:06.000Like, you can't even talk to her about, like, what social justice warriors do.
01:44:11.000She's like, she's not even thinking about it.
01:44:13.000She's just like, yeah, but why are they paying attention to that while Trump's doing this and they're ready to bomb North Korea and blah blah blah.
01:48:44.000Yeah, like that whole collapse documentary that they did where they interviewed him and he's just sitting there smoking cigarettes talking about the end is near.
01:49:04.000That movie, that documentary, Collapse, and his worldview, a lot of it was based on how he thought of things, because he was really depressed.
01:49:12.000Exactly, it was a reflection, just kind of an externalization of his own depression.
01:49:51.000Well, he was an LAP narcotics officer, and he stood in front of that CIA guy, and I forget what the meeting was about, and he was talking about how he had witnessed CIA agents selling narcotics,
01:50:06.000and that they had been doing it forever, and that he had been stopped from prosecuting and arresting them, and everybody went crazy.
01:50:55.000I will tell you, Director Deutch, as a former Los Angeles police narcotics detective, that the agency has dealt drugs throughout this country for a long time.
01:52:01.000I will come back to you as we roll back across to the center section.
01:52:09.000Director Deutsch, I will refer you to three specific agency operations known as Amadeus, Pegasus, and Watchtower.
01:52:16.000I have Watchtower documents heavily redacted by the agency.
01:52:20.000I was personally exposed to CIA operations and recruited by CIA personnel who attempted to recruit me in the late 70s to become involved in protecting agency drug operations in this country.
01:52:31.000I have been trying to get this out for 18 years, and I have the evidence.
01:52:35.000My question for you is very specific, sir.
01:52:37.000If in the course of the IG's investigations, and Fred Hitz's work, you come across evidence of severely criminal activity, and it's classified, will you use that classification to hide the criminal activity, or will you tell the American people the truth?
01:53:31.000I mean, that's how he made millions and millions of dollars, by selling the CIA's drugs, and that's how they funded the Contras versus the Sandinistas.
01:53:57.000Because I think Afghanistan is the only other country other than, if I'm not mistaken, Kenya, that is actually not only the metadata, you know, like we're collecting metadata everywhere, but that is one of two countries in the world that WikiLeaks exposed that we're actually collecting every phone call.
01:54:13.000Every phone call is being archived and recorded from Afghanistan.
01:54:15.000So which kind of adds to the weirdness that somehow these this giant heroin opium manufacturing like operations going on and we still can't get a grasp on where it's coming from.
01:55:54.000This is why Philip Seymour Hoffman and so many other people die of overdoses because the drug war and these people just sell like laced heroin and shit and it's so dangerous and yeah, it's absolutely horrible.
01:56:07.000Well, we were talking about Bourdain's show.
01:56:08.000He had a great show on Massachusetts on his CNN show and it was about the heroin epidemic that's hit Massachusetts and many other places as well, but he kind of talked about Massachusetts.
01:56:20.000Because they had a few people that they were referring to where these people, they got hooked on like Oxycontin, synoxycodone.
01:58:08.000Some people call it paranoid, but I think it's more like hyper-awareness.
01:58:12.000You know, and that hyper-awareness, you have to take into account all the variables, that you are going to die, that you are in a ball that's spinning a thousand miles an hour with a thin layer of gas.
01:58:47.000Everybody that I talk to that believes in flat Earth, you show them that Japanese satellite that takes a photo, high resolution, every 10 minutes from 22,000 miles away, a full picture of the Earth.
02:00:11.000Let alone cover up the flat earth thing.
02:00:13.000The moon landing at least happened in 1969, and it happened with a limited amount of people that had access to all the technology, there was no internet, they controlled the media, and we never went back.
02:00:26.000So there's all sorts of beautiful things that connect together to form a nice juicy fat conspiracy that I love.
02:00:33.000The moon landing conspiracies- Oh, it's a fun one, yeah.
02:00:35.000I secretly, not even so secretly, covet that one like no other conspiracy.
02:00:42.000There's a there's a great quote from Bill Clinton from his book my life on the moon landing and it is It's fascinating because he's talking about an old carpenter and he says the carpenter says that Them TV fellows that he didn't believe the moon landing that those TV fellows I never believe anything because they can pretty much do anything and make you believe that's real and you don't he goes back then I thought he was a crank but after eight years in the White House I was wondering if he's not ahead of his time That's in Bill Clinton's book.
02:01:18.000I will give you the most cryptic piece of information about the moon landing.
02:01:23.000Neil Armstrong gave a speech on the 25th anniversary of the moon landings, and it is one of the most what-the-fuck speeches you'll ever hear in your life.
02:01:35.000Because it's not a guy saying, look, we went to the moon, it was amazing, and you can't Kids are going to accomplish amazing things as well.
02:01:41.000Pull up Neil Armstrong's cryptic speech.
02:01:44.000Is that when he says he doesn't remember if there were stars?
02:02:08.000On the 25th anniversary of the event in 1994, Neil Armstrong made a rare public appearance and held back tears as he spoke these brief cryptic remarks before the next generation of taxpayers as they toured the White House.
02:03:01.000At the end when they show the Apollo mission and it shows them putting the piece of paper where it makes it look like they're farther away, I was like, what the hell is this?
02:03:26.000It's the one conspiracy that still, to this day, you go, huh.
02:03:30.000Because there's no technological achievement from 1969. It's not easier, cheaper, and faster to reproduce today, other than the moon landing.
02:03:38.000They went six times, seven attempts, six successful attempts.
02:03:43.000Apollo 13, obviously, they never went.
02:03:46.000They had that accident that made Tom Hanks make a great movie.
02:03:49.000But that was the only time human beings had been more than 400 miles from the Earth's surface.
02:03:57.000It's trippy that we haven't gone back.
02:03:58.000Not only have we gone back, we never even left the magnetosphere.
02:04:02.000We've never gone through the Van Allen radiation belts since then.
02:04:06.000We never went into deep space, like, all the way out and back, like, around the moon.
02:04:09.000They never even did, like, a flyby since then.
02:05:31.000Now here's what someone explained to me, that it's entirely likely, and this made a lot of sense, that it's entirely likely, this is during the Nixon administration, by the way, which was all going on, massive deception.
02:05:42.000I mean, Nixon was just a fucking fraud in every way, shape, or form, and a crook, and a liar.
02:05:47.000That it's entirely possible that they filmed a lot of stuff and that they filmed all this fake stuff and they passed it off as the real footage, but that they actually did go.
02:06:00.000And one of the reasons why they probably couldn't get footage of it, if that's the case, is that you can't even get that fucking film through the radar detector at the airport or the x-ray machine at the airport without it killing it, right?
02:06:12.000I was looking some stuff up on this the other day.
02:06:18.000The spaceship itself and all the stuff they were wearing would have protected them from most of the radiation that would have potentially harmed them or anything.
02:07:20.000Because here these guys are, they're in one-sixth Earth's gravity, and they're just fucking jumping around through the air, and you can't see their feet.
02:07:28.000Like you only see their feet when they're in the air.
02:07:31.000They're hiding behind this lunar module and they're bouncing around in a way that you never saw them bounce around before.
02:07:39.000So I think it's entirely possible that they fake some stuff.
02:07:43.000And that there could have been an issue with them being on the surface of the moon.
02:07:47.000Yeah, and also being on the surface of the moon, the radiation on the surface of the moon, there's no protection on those cameras, and there's no magnetosphere, there's nothing.
02:07:56.000Those Hasselbad cameras that they had, that they kept in the center of their chests, those weird-looking cameras that they used, there's nothing different about those.
02:08:03.000There's nothing protective about them.
02:08:05.000Their suit was protecting it from what I was reading.
02:09:57.000The thing that bothers me about the ISIS stuff is that, like I said before, that 70,000 number, it's like you could just say anything's ISIS. Like the ISIS caves that we dropped the Moab on, and it's just like, oh, it's an ISIS cave.
02:10:07.000And that's why 70% of Americans just support bombing the shit out of Afghanistan because ISIS was there.
02:10:26.000And they bombed, they dropped the mother of all bombs right after we had accidentally killed a bunch of people that were on our side in Syria, right?
02:10:49.000And you know what Trump learned after the Syria strike?
02:10:52.000He learned that he can get, because all he cares about, he's like a little child, wants positive reinforcement, and he hates, you know, the fake news, CNN, why don't you cover me fairly?
02:11:00.000He goes out there and does these press conferences begging the news to cover him better, because that's all he cares about.
02:11:05.000But that's what he learned, is that he can get bipartisan support and praise from the media if he just bombs the shit out of people.
02:11:15.000Because you know now how to be popular.
02:11:16.000Just like Reagan came in and was seen as a joke until he got swept into the military-industrial complex and became a war president.
02:11:23.000And I think that Trump came in as a reality star president joke.
02:11:27.000And he's surrounded himself with more generals than any other president since World War II. And he's just...
02:11:33.000Letting them lead him wherever they want.
02:11:35.000And of course, generals just want to be in charge of conflict so they can get more stars and emblems and honors and lead us into different wars.
02:11:45.000I was going to bring this up earlier, but I forgot.
02:11:48.000That was one of the things that was most creepy is that he's saying he's gonna let the military do their job like like oversight of the military is what Eisenhower warned us about at the end of his term I mean remember when Eisenhower was leaving he talked about the military industrial complex and everybody's like what the fuck but that was something that was broadcast on television and back in the day That's when it ended.
02:12:10.000It was broadcast on TV, some people listened, and then business went about as usual.
02:12:14.000And it wasn't like today, where you could watch that video over and over again.
02:12:19.000When you see that video, Eisenhower saying, military, industrial complex, yeah.
02:12:24.000Trump is now adding 10% of the fucking budget, cutting all of these agencies and bolstering the Pentagon even more.
02:12:30.000We already have the biggest military in the goddamn world, bigger than the next 10 countries combined.
02:12:44.000Okay, if President Abby gets elected, what do we do?
02:12:48.000Well, first, abolish money in politics and start some sort of true democratic representation where you have simple laws to prosecute criminals whether or not they have money or they're billionaires.
02:12:58.000So if you're a corporate criminal, you go to fucking jail.
02:13:00.000Sounds like somebody wants to get assassinated.
02:13:05.000Sounds like suicide by government to me.
02:13:09.000I mean, yeah, it's hard to say, but I just know that Trump is taking us down a very dangerous path, and these people who are thinking that he's somehow anti-empire, anti-deep state, are very confused.
02:14:12.000It's like a photo from a Cabela's catalog.
02:14:15.000I mean, it's hilarious when you're looking at the five of them next to Trump.
02:14:20.000And when you were saying the military do your job, he's already like changed the rules of engagement where we were killing a thousand civilians.
02:14:27.000He killed a thousand civilians in March.
02:16:16.000Totally under military rule by Israel.
02:16:19.000And then there's the Gaza Strip, which is like the open air prison, which they bomb the shit out of like every couple of years and Hamas controls that area.
02:16:26.000And then there's Jerusalem, which is an international city center that both Arabs and Jews live in.
02:16:30.000But the West Bank has been occupied militarily since 1967 and it's complete martial law.
02:17:29.000You know, all the women are wailing and crying.
02:17:31.000And as we're leaving, the Israeli forces had set up a checkpoint right outside of this dude's house and started tear gassing and shooting rubber bullets like at People who were simply attending the funeral, just to punish people for attending the funeral.
02:17:44.000We went to another girl's house named Aya who got shot in the vagina for peacefully protesting at some protest and they shot 200 people that day.
02:17:57.000One guy next to her died, another guy was paralyzed.
02:18:00.000They have a policy called shoot to cripple where they shoot guys in the dicks.
02:18:07.000I thought that I was going to die several times.
02:18:09.000We were at this checkpoint going through Calandia, and there was this old man walking, like, clearly drunk or something, and kind of, like, walking a little bit toward the checkpoint.
02:18:30.000And as we go through the checkpoint, the soldier's like, hey, stay safe out there.
02:18:34.000And I was like, yeah, when you guys are arbitrarily shooting people.
02:18:38.000And the person who was driving us had just told us that a couple months prior to that, some woman, Palestinian woman, because you can't go to Jerusalem, like if you're Palestinian, there's like barely any Palestinians who are even allowed to go pray at the most holy site, the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem.
02:18:56.000And he was just telling us that months before we went through this checkpoint, someone was going through the checkpoint because they got a permit to go into Jerusalem, which is like a lifetime golden ticket, like Willy Wonka.
02:19:05.000And they're walking and they get and she just got executed.
02:19:27.000We were banned from going into this territory because I was told by the Israeli government that I was a propagandist and that I was like an enemy agent.
02:19:34.000And so I wasn't allowed to go into Gaza.
02:20:18.000And when the Israeli military wanted more and more land...
02:20:21.000By the way, all settlements in Israel are illegal.
02:20:25.000All of them are illegal in the West Bank, but they just keep creating more and more and more.
02:20:28.000And we would go to these villages of just Arab people living in these villages and the settlers will come.
02:20:33.000You have to be a fanatical fucking asshole to move from California to an Arab village in Palestine and set up a goddamn tractor trailer and just live on top of their home.
02:20:42.000And they can have, you know, giant machine guns.
02:21:35.000And we were, you know, we were simply and people want to quabble about like, oh, it's not apartheid.
02:21:40.000There are different fucking license plates for Arabs and Jews like you cannot go to areas like Israeli soldiers were arbitrarily set up checkpoints and just shut you out of your neighborhood and force you to walk three miles to your home like they can do whatever they want because you are under martial law.
02:21:55.000And you can't, you have no mobility, like you have no freedom.
02:22:00.000And we just did a whole series on the Empire Files talking about how Israel was created up until today.
02:22:05.000And we go over like the settlements, the demolitions, the jail, and why I think there's no hope from within Israeli society to change.
02:22:12.000Because it's becoming a more theocratic state and a more fascist state as it grows.
02:22:17.000Because you have to be to maintain this Jewish supremacist state.
02:22:26.000Militaristic in the way that you rule society, just like the U.S. I mean, people who were considered outlier fringe assholes 30 years ago are now like the Christian evangelicals are now in power.
02:22:39.000I mean, it's not the same because Israel is a white nationalist, like ethno supremacist state.
02:22:44.000And you see the way that they treat Ethiopians and African refugees and it becomes obvious that even if you're a Jew and you're black, you still are a second class citizen there.
02:22:55.000Have you interviewed anybody that's pro-Israel?
02:23:05.000In order to really reject the notion, it's like rejecting being an American.
02:23:10.000It's like such a hard thing for people to really accept.
02:23:13.000So there's a huge mobilization within Israel, people who are opposed to the military, who talk openly about how awful the occupation is, how brutal it is, all the crimes they committed.
02:23:23.000But you'll very rarely find anti-Zionists who will come out and say, the notion of a Jewish state is wrong.
02:23:30.000Because then it means you're just rejecting everything that you are.
02:23:33.000And like, who are you then, if you're an Israeli and you are not Zionist?
02:23:37.000You know, it's like, it's just a really hard notion for you to wrap your mind around.
02:23:41.000But we interviewed about 40 Israelis, man on the streets.
02:23:57.000Like, maybe they should have their own water supply.
02:24:00.000When you say an occupation, you mean occupation of Palestine or occupation of Israel itself?
02:24:04.000So, the West Bank has been militarily occupied since 1967. So when Israel was created in 48, there were those three partitioned areas that I talked about.
02:24:14.000And ever since that happened, Israel has just continued to take over more and more land in the West Bank.
02:24:19.000So these settlements just keep growing and growing and growing and growing.
02:24:22.000And so, you know, over time, there was like mass resistances that happened.
02:24:27.000And then in 67, Israel was like, we're just going to do a large scale invasion and try to take over all the land.
02:24:31.000And then they just stayed and occupied this area.
02:24:33.000And they just have been there ever since.
02:24:34.000And so that's like the huge international crime.
02:24:36.000When the international community is like, by the way, these settlements are illegal and we're like condemning you at the U.N. and the U.S. just vetoes it every time because the U.S. is just like boys with Israel unconditionally.
02:24:48.000And they just signed that $10 billion aid package, giving it to Israel for the next 10 years.
02:24:54.000Actually, I think it was $30 billion over the next 10 years, which is crazy because this would never be able to happen if it weren't just completely supported by the U.S. And why is it supported by the U.S.? I don't know.
02:25:05.000I think that the U.S. loves using Israel as a military garrison.
02:25:09.000They love using that strategic point in the Middle East to have.
02:25:14.000And also, someone was shedding some light.
02:25:17.000This Israeli soldier that I interviewed, who's amazing, his name is Arana Franti.
02:25:21.000He was telling me that the military aid package that we just signed with Israel, it may look like just a gift to Israel.
02:26:39.000I had no idea how crazy it was until I was there.
02:26:41.000And you've been pretty vocally pro-Calistanian for a while.
02:26:44.000I remember you had a piece that you were criticized about on your show where you were furious about...
02:26:50.000Oh my god yeah and people are just it's so confusing and convoluted on purpose because that it really relies on Israel being the victim and for people not really understanding that Palestinians are not all terrorists and that it's really just a case of being occupied and like getting freedom so it's it's really tough man but a lot of these Israelis want they just want to push the Palestinians completely and where do they want them to go they want them they don't care as long as they're gone As
02:27:27.000You know, in the US when police kill black people and we have rallies like Black Lives Matter, people have rallies in support of these people who get killed.
02:27:35.000In Israel, they have mass rallies, 10,000, 20,000 people strong in Tel Aviv.
02:27:41.000If a soldier executes an unarmed Palestinian man and gets a slap on the wrist, like this guy Elor Azaria executed an unarmed Palestinian.
02:27:51.000And because there was this international uproar about it, Israel had to put him on house arrest.
02:27:56.000The Israeli government put him on house arrest.
02:27:57.000And that was enough for, like, mass mobilization of tens of thousands of people to come out and protest the fact that he was getting even reprimanded, a slap on the wrist to get house arrest.
02:28:18.000He's been there and he documents these crazy rallies, these fascist fucking rallies that no one else has shown.
02:28:24.000And until I saw that, until I saw people chanting death to the videographers because they hate when you even film what's going on there, Death of the leftists.
02:29:27.000Once a soldier understands that he can be charged with manslaughter, next time he'll think twice, and that hesitation is likely to cost soldiers lives.
02:29:42.000So everyone's cheering on the soldier.
02:29:45.000We're certain you're now sitting in an open jail in an army base in the center of the country, watching TV. Look, Alor, the Jewish people support you.
02:30:25.000They're mad because they're all taught summary execution is like an institutionalized thing.
02:30:32.000So they're all like, why the hell is this guy getting persecuted for something that everyone just acknowledges that this is So the soldiers have to be, in their eyes, soldiers have to be able to just execute Palestinians anytime they want.
02:30:44.000Go to that huge rally at the end, yeah.
02:30:46.000So do you think that they feel like trapped and surrounded?
02:30:51.000And that they make this justification because they feel like there's Arab states all around.
02:30:56.000Oh my god, they have a fucking concert.
02:31:20.000Yeah, there's a part in this video, people should watch it, where it says, yeah, we'll flip the country over, free the boy, death to Arabs.
02:33:37.000Luckily, he's an Israeli Jew, so he doesn't get that much heat.
02:33:40.000But my friend Dan also looks like he is a Jew.
02:33:44.000So they don't really give him heat, but like, yeah, it's really dangerous to film there, and it's really dangerous to document what's going on.
02:33:49.000They must be particularly furious about Israeli Jews that expose this stuff.
02:34:37.000So you can be anti-Semitic and still love the notion of fostering like a certain group, you know, a certain identity.
02:34:46.000So does he think we should have mandatory military service the way they do?
02:34:50.000Well, he definitely doesn't want different races breeding, so I think that he probably just wants like an insular society of all just like white people.
02:34:59.000When you get a bunch of people and everybody has to join the army, there's a bond that they have that's very different than a regular civilian bond.
02:35:13.000The indoctrination that you get once you've been in the military and you fought side by side with your brothers and sisters in arms, it's a totally different feeling.
02:35:22.000I know a lot of people that have been in the military and some of them got deeper in it than others.
02:35:28.000And those people, it's almost like an us versus them.
02:35:33.000There's society, it's that whole Chris Kyle sheepdog thing.
02:35:40.000But they together as a group are much tighter than any other group in the United States.
02:35:47.000Like, I mean, there's division in all groups, right?
02:35:51.000But I got to imagine that the bond that they have as Israelis, all of them have been in the military, all of them living in this one small area surrounded by Arab states.
02:36:16.000I don't know enough about the history of that region.
02:36:19.000I mean, Sykes-Picot, Western, you know, empires, basically just drew a line through the Middle East and divided all these countries and formed all these borders back like a hundred and...
02:36:36.000So anyway, fast forward to when the Ottoman Empire was colonizing this area and the British were occupying what is Palestine, right?
02:36:45.000And the Zionist lobby was really strong.
02:36:47.000This is well before the Holocaust and they were super, super strong and emboldened and they were negotiating with the With the Brits about where they can form like a Jewish state and and there really was no support until the Holocaust where they were able to sell like you know the fear more and there was even false flag attacks where Zionist organizations were going around different Arab countries and committing terrorism and then saying like all right like the Jews need to come and escape that you guys are being persecuted like they would actually carry out terrorism at like synagogues and stuff and this is all documented yeah But
02:37:18.000the ethnic cleansing that went on, I mean, it's horrific.
02:37:21.000There's dozens of massacres that happen in the formation of Israel.
02:37:25.000Because even though it was partitioned initially by the UN, I don't know who gave this international body the authority to partition a country on top of another country.
02:37:35.000But on top of that, there was several massacres that just continued to take more and more of the land, as I said, and that was called the Nakba.
02:37:43.000And so all these people were expelled violently and purged from their land.
02:37:47.000We visited some of these refugee camps and the people were just like, we literally, our houses are like five miles away and we're just stuck in these camps and we've been here for 50 years.
02:38:00.000They just have one water tank every month.
02:38:03.000And Israeli soldiers will go and spray skunk spray, which is like a military manufactured, disgusting, toxic tasting spray that tastes like sewage water.
02:38:14.000And they'll just go target these water tanks and then your water will be fucked for the whole month.
02:38:18.000There's just little things like this just to make people's lives a living hell.
02:38:23.000Now, did you film when you were over there?
02:38:27.000Well, we have four episodes out where we, you know, I go to anti-refugee rallies and I'm talking to people who are telling me that these people are subhuman infiltrators who need to be executed and rounded up and put in chains.
02:38:40.000I mean, it's really crazy and you really don't understand how bad it is and why it's so dangerous and how really it's been the crux of so many problems in the world.
02:38:51.000Especially in that region, like what we've done just to create this settler colonial state in the middle of the Middle East and expel all these people violently and then just unconditionally support Israel no matter what war crimes they commit, no matter who they bomb, no matter who they kill, it's sick.
02:39:05.000And people don't respect us for doing that.
02:39:07.000And it's super hypocritical when we're engaging in military operations in the name of fucking morality and humanitarianism.
02:39:14.000Why do you think they openly support Israel the way they do?
02:39:27.000I don't believe the whole Zionist lobby controls the U.S. I think that it's a partnership.
02:39:31.000I think that the U.S. sees a lot of...
02:39:35.000Leverage having Israel there, but I think it's becoming more unpopular where it's almost becoming a liability because the rest of the world is increasingly realizing how fucked up the situation is and trying to boycott like the state, you know, and and the US is it's not gonna be a popular thing.
02:39:52.000Like even when Obama was leaving office, he did that kind of cursory like superficial thing where they for the first time didn't veto Israel or didn't veto like the condemnation of Israeli settlements.
02:40:02.000And so that was like we didn't not do it, but we just like didn't veto it for the first time in a long time.
02:40:07.000And that was like a huge slap in the face to Israel, even though it was like nothing but just a symbolic empty gesture.
02:40:12.000But that was kind of Obama's like, fuck you as I was leaving.
02:40:17.000But it shows you that there's a lot of divisions, I think, from the inside.
02:40:21.000And I think the government is realizing, like, it might not be worth it.
02:40:26.000If the pressure continues to mount, I mean, we need to put pressure on our government to stop this occupation because it's completely inhumane and disgraceful.
02:40:35.000So you said you have four episodes of this that are out right now?
02:40:39.000Yeah, four episodes and we're putting more out.
02:40:40.000We're putting the episode with all the interviews with Israelis next.
02:41:26.000And we also went to the Amazon and saw the mess that Chevron left there, like 18 billion gallons of just oil just festering in the Amazon jungle that's just been left.
02:41:45.000I mean, it's a whole nother level when you're, you know, you're not just reacting to the news and giving like commentary like we were saying before in a studio.
02:41:59.000So you just felt like when you were on RT that you were kind of shackled by being in the studio and to really get a feel of these subjects that you're covering.
02:44:12.000According to Reuters' report on Monday, it looks like General Motors is abandoning Venezuela for a while.
02:44:18.000Two employees told Reuters that the giant...
02:44:22.000Employee plants employees were all fired via text message blah blah blah Corporate email accounts were all deactivated over the weekend.
02:44:29.000We received a payment and text message The size of the payments was not disclosed were not disclosed but according to the union leaders they were too low of course unions never said they paid us perfect Everything's great.
02:44:41.000We're psyched Yeah, man, it's gonna be crazy.
02:45:16.000I just really take everything that I read with a grain of salt, especially in light of all the serious stuff.
02:45:21.000I just feel like we're in a really heavy propaganda war.
02:45:24.000You know, you look back in the coup when we actually removed Hugo Chavez from power for a couple days.
02:45:29.000The New York Times was praising it, being like, a distinguished businessman took over.
02:45:36.000You know, not mentioning like the US was behind all of this.
02:45:39.000So I just all the media talking about, you know, it's a dictatorship and this is a pro-democracy movement.
02:45:45.000I don't doubt that there are millions of people who want Maduro gone and they have absolutely valid things to say.
02:45:51.000And there's a lot of fucked up things about the country, mismanagement, corruption, etc.
02:45:55.000But, I'm gonna go there and try to find out what's going on.
02:45:57.000Well, if you want to get a Chevy Volt for $29,000, the only way you do it is you gotta get those Venezuelan people to work for a dollar a week.
02:46:04.000So, unless you've got a better idea, how about you fuck off?
02:46:08.000Wait, how great is Trump's economic plan?
02:46:10.000He's like, just give corporations giant tax breaks and all the jobs will come back here!
02:46:14.000You're like, wait, corporations already have giant tax breaks and they're never gonna fucking come back here unless they can pay people 10 cents on the dollar, like they do in Bangladesh.
02:47:24.000You gotta step up your game, Karmaphone.
02:47:27.000By the way, Joe, do you know how many emails I get from dudes saying, I listen to you in the Joe Rogan show and you are horribly unbecoming.
02:48:06.000I mean, look, there's a lot of shallow thinking in pretty much every part of the world.
02:48:11.000I mean, human beings are involved in this Weird sort of a race for for resources and for breeding rights and for you know for social You know, social position.
02:48:24.000There's a lot of weird shit going on with people.
02:48:27.000And we're like in some weird stage of evolution where we're close to like getting better than we are now, but we're not there yet.
02:48:37.000And the Trump thing is like a little slide back, the longing for nostalgia.
02:48:42.000You know, we've kind of slid back a few steps.
02:48:55.000And I feel like this situation that we're in right now, which is really unappealing to a lot of us, is going to force people to activate politically, socially, and also, I think, like, this Berkeley shit that's going on, these riots and everything,
02:49:10.000it's going to force people to reexamine the way they interact with each other.
02:49:17.000And that's where I think, like, you know, we're talking about, like, what's important about This regressive left ideology and addressing it.
02:49:26.000It's important because it fuels the right.
02:49:29.000It fuels these alt-right people to have some sort of regressive left.
02:49:33.000It's like literally what the alt-right's based on.