On this episode of the podcast, we have our first guest on the show, Gary Vaynerchuck. Gary is a comedian, writer, podcaster, and podcaster. He's been with us for a long time and is one of the funniest people I've ever met. We talk about his early days in the game, how he got started in comedy, and what it's like to travel the world as a non-American living in a foreign country. We also talk about some of his favorite places in the world, and some of the crazy things he's done in his life. It's a great episode and I hope you enjoy it as much as we did making it. Thank you so much to Gary for being a part of this podcast, it was a pleasure to have him on the podcast and we hope you guys enjoy listening to this episode! Have a great rest of your week and rest of the week! -Jon Sorrentino and Timestamps: 4:00 - What are you looking forward to this week's episode? 6:30 - What do you think of Gary's new book, Dear Reader? ? 7:15 - What would you like to see in a movie? 8:20 - What is your favorite part of the show? 9:40 - How do you feel about Gary's music? 11:00 12:30 14:15 15:40 16: What's your favorite country? 17:00 | What s your favorite place in the most interesting place? 18: What are your favorite food? 19:00 / 16: Is there a country that you ve ever been to go to? 21:30 | What is a country you ve been in? 22:20 23:40 | What country do you miss? 26:00 // 27:30 // 28:40 // 29:10 32:30 / 33:40 / 34: Is your favorite culture? 35:10 / 35:00/36: What s a good place to grow up in a place you re from? 36:30/35: What is the best country you re going to go back to do next? 37:10 | What kind of country you think you d like to grow in the future? 39:30 & 36:00 + 39:00 & 45:00 Intro song?
00:01:48.000I'm taller than most people, and I'm Caucasian, you know, and there's a lot of places there.
00:01:53.000Like, I'd try to go to, like, I'd get the lowdown on a sushi spot from somebody that I knew there, and then you'd go there and be like, oh, no, no, Kaijin, we don't serve y'all here.
00:02:01.000Like, still places like that, you know what I mean?
00:02:03.000When you try and get the down-low Anthony Bourdain treatment, like, if you ain't...
00:02:06.000If you ain't Anthony Bourdain, you might not have no luck.
00:02:39.000It was just language like everybody knew what everybody spoke, right?
00:02:42.000And your language was this the sounds that they make and the way they interpret things and the way they interpret things Shapes the way they look at reality.
00:03:03.000Yeah, we learn a basic set of parameters and rules that we all kind of, yeah, we're all individuals within it, but like, there's, you know, hey, you know, in this society, this is what's acceptable and this is what isn't, and here's how we peer it.
00:03:15.000And then when you see something, like we were talking about this book, Dear Reader, Michael Malas, who was on yesterday, who was just an amazing podcast guest, but was talking to us about North Korea.
00:03:24.000Like, that's a different, totally different operating system.
00:04:00.000Trying to revolutionize or start a revolution or buck up and make a coup would be a problem, because I think the old guys around them are even crazier.
00:08:10.000Or am I just sitting at home in a dad world of taking care of these babies and going on tour and I just turn on the TV and it blows my fucking mind, dude.
00:08:20.000I mean, there's a weird line that's happening now, too, and this isn't really even a criticism, but Newsweek had an article that they tweeted, and the article shows how Melina rejects Trump's hand.
00:09:49.000He's aware that there's been a lot of criticism, and he's trying to iron things out.
00:09:53.000But what he's doing is he's taking this approach that he's made, become this real estate magnate, this big tycoon, big businessman, which is like, he was always this...
00:10:05.000Rambunctious sort of flamboyant personality, right?
00:10:08.000He always put his name and gold letters on these buildings and we didn't mind that when he wasn't running the country Just when you run the country and you start doing the same stuff like the criticism that he's getting is kind of You can't kind of do the same thing when you're the president you can't like talk about how shows are number one It's a bigger than yourself thing.
00:10:37.000And honestly, I grew up in an age where politics and religion, if it was going to be bad news, you didn't bring it up with people you liked.
00:10:47.000The hatred I see, like even from people I respect.
00:10:50.000The red and white, red and blue hatred.
00:10:53.000Yeah, they cripping and blooding out here hard, man.
00:10:55.000Hard for their parties, and it's stupid because none of them care about you.
00:11:00.000None of them want anything from you but more of your tax money, no matter how much they're going to tell you they're going to cut your taxes.
00:11:25.000But the point is they don't give a fuck because they just stole it out the back end of your healthcare or they just took it off the top of not rebuilding all the roads.
00:11:41.000I would like to think that some of them have your best interests in mind that there's just a crazy competitive system and that we maybe Maybe it's just what the system makes.
00:11:52.000The system kind of makes corruption because of lobbyists, because of the way it's set up.
00:11:55.000It's almost like you can't pull it out of it.
00:11:58.000I totally agree with you that there's plenty of good ones.
00:13:20.000But there comes a time, and there's been a few of them lately in recent history, where there should have been an overwhelming condemnation by a smaller group of that group's actions.
00:13:34.000A perfect example is that Eric Gardner case in New York, where they choked that guy who was just selling cigarettes.
00:14:05.000It was more like, honestly, I mean, it was a choke hold, but it was more like the way he was applying it was like a restraining thing more than it was, I want to see it.
00:14:23.000Well, I mean, honestly, let's not even go down the road, but the point of this conversation, I believe, was just saying like, oh, that overwhelming larger number of good folks, whether it's cops, politicians, soldiers, whatever.
00:14:36.000I do believe that exists, that the majority of them are decent, good people.
00:14:42.000But when the shit hits the fan, they don't collectively say, that's wrong and that's fucked up.
00:14:47.000No, they all band together and say, alright, we'll try and bury this and hide it or just deny it.
00:14:53.000And that, as a group, loses you respect when People that are interested in justice and interested in fair play and interested in that see these things happen.
00:15:41.000It gets real divisive online with people separating men and women, like criticizing men, all men in general, criticizing women, all women in general.
00:15:52.000It exists, whether it's Democrat versus Republican, it's the same shit.
00:15:57.000Vegans versus carnivores, it's the same shit.
00:16:00.000People pick a fucking team and they fight for it, and they think they're right, and they have many, many good reasons for thinking they're right.
00:16:07.000But I think All of us are way better off if we're taught about these team ideas early and recognize when you see them in yourself and do some self-governing and avoid those.
00:16:21.000Avoid those and we'll find common ground on a lot more shit than we think.
00:16:26.000It's pretty much, we can sum that up, but think for yourself.
00:16:32.000Especially when you're bombarded the way we are now.
00:16:35.000That's another thing about how we started this conversation is how do you know what the fuck is really true?
00:16:39.000If you really want to know what the fuck is true or at least get a good semblance of it, you have to look at more than one fucking thing.
00:16:46.000If you read some story on Facebook that outrages you and fucking makes you so pissed off, I think?
00:17:05.000I try to be like, alright, CNN is on at my studio a lot without the sound, because we'll be making music and whatnot, and mostly I just read the ticker, because if you know nowadays, news is on the ticker.
00:17:18.000Opinions are what are coming out the fucking speakers when the personalities are talking.
00:17:22.000News is just the facts that roll, scroll along down on the bottom, and there's some spin on it and whatnot, but I try not to listen to the talking heads, because They, you know, Fox has two pro-Democrat guys that no matter what the Democrats do, they're gonna defend it, and CNN has a couple of Trump guys that no matter what goes on.
00:17:46.000I was watching it not too long ago when CNN came on after a commercial and the studio was lit up red and Korean stars were everywhere and there was nuclear missile launches like pictures in the background.
00:17:57.000And I was like, oh my god, what the fuck is going on?
00:18:36.000My conscience, my soul, you know, evaluates why I'm being entertained by it and finds it disturbing a lot.
00:18:40.000And wants to say, like, hey man, we should all fucking take a step back.
00:18:45.000And I love you because the love shit...
00:18:49.000I mean, I've always had love in my life.
00:18:51.000I've been a very fortunate man, but like, coming in here as grown men, and when I first started doing your podcast, you would always be preaching love, and you know, I mean, Joe Rogan's a tough guy.
00:19:00.000He kicked the shit out of 90% of the fucking people around.
00:21:42.000Started probably the last, right before I stopped, the last time I came on the show, there was like a big lawsuit over Jump Around that I actually wound up winning, but like, it froze money that I depend on.
00:24:36.000I had a lot of guilt involved because with a kid with CF, I couldn't have my mom in home with a nurse and any infections that she could, you know, she was getting lung infections all the time.
00:24:44.000So I had her in a home, a really beautiful home.
00:24:46.000They took a magnificent care of my mother, but there was a lot of guilt.
00:24:50.000I was freaking for a while, like, with a lot of darkness that I was swimming through.
00:24:55.000And it just wasn't good for me to come through.
00:25:31.000My wife and I, I won't fucking make it funny.
00:25:35.000We've been very close to the brink a few times, but we've finally gotten to a stage where it's like, no, none of that's going to break us.
00:25:42.000We're good, and we're good in this life, and we accept where we are, and we're going to make sure this young lady is going to make it funny.
00:28:14.000Because a few people have sent me things and we're investigating some stuff on that level right now because...
00:28:18.000There are a lot of good things going along with this because it's one of the best anti-inflammatories there are with no side effects and all kinds of stuff.
00:28:25.000We're not using it on my daughter yet, but we're investigating what kind of uses there are.
00:28:59.000So me and my wife are known as what are known as carriers, which we never knew because we've searched our whole history after we found out nobody in my family's ever, ever had this.
00:29:08.000Nobody in her family's ever, ever had this.
00:29:12.000So when we got together and we had a child, there's a one in four chance that child's gonna have cystic fibrosis.
00:29:19.000There's a two in four chance they're gonna be a carrier.
00:29:23.000There's a one in four chance they have nothing at all, which is our other daughter, Sadie.
00:29:29.000So we kind of represent the whole spectrum, like our family, you know, Layla, her mom, me, and Sadie.
00:29:36.000Which is another reason I'm not having six kids, because I love being a dad, but it's like two cystic fibrosis children in the same household is even, and a lot of people do it, It's hard because they pass infections and it's very...
00:29:50.000I can't even imagine how the people with multiple two or three kids with cystic fibrosis pull it off.
00:31:20.000I don't know him personally, but I'm a huge fan.
00:31:22.000He's a great dude, but one of the things he said to me that I'll never forget, he was talking about The Secret.
00:31:27.000Do you remember when The Secret was this big movie, and it was about the law of attraction, and people were going to manifest their own destiny, and they were going to make it happen, and everything in your life, you created in your mind.
00:32:50.000And the more important thing for me...
00:32:52.000The second most important thing in my life, other than keeping Layla as healthy as possible, is making sure she knows that she can still achieve...
00:33:02.000She's at an age now where she kind of...
00:33:07.000I'm not trying to have her hate me in 10 years if she ever hears this for giving up her business, but she's in a stage right now where she's very resentful of...
00:36:10.000Yeah, so that's three years, kind of a condensed Reader's Digest version, as I emotionally was unprepared to be here and hang out and have fun.
00:36:48.000And I know I didn't need anything to promote, but all of a sudden it's like I did this free project and I was like, I really just put it out and my fans have found it, but the response has been so good behind it.
00:37:01.000It's like, I want to get this out there a little further.
00:37:03.000So it gave me an excuse to be like, I think it's time for me to be on the podcast again.
00:37:07.000And if you want to buy a CD, they still make CDs.
00:37:10.000No, you can buy these maybe at our shows.
00:39:22.000I know it's like, if you were sick, you'd tell me.
00:39:26.000But you still, you live that life, and after a while you get tired of asking your friends every five seconds, and so the invitations to hang out become a little less.
00:39:36.000It's this slow kind of isolation of yourself.
00:39:39.000My friends didn't do it to me, I did it to myself.
00:39:41.000And I'm coming out of that now, like I'm hanging out with a lot of my old friends and seeing things, which is great.
00:39:48.000So like I was stuck in the studio was just me and like an engineer kid who I Had a guy that worked for me for many years who moved up north and then I I had this new guy who I who's good at his job But it was like I there was no but you're kind of your own boss, right?
00:40:02.000So how do you decide when you're gonna go into the studio?
00:40:04.000How do you decide when you're gonna write just well because I don't know how you think about life because we don't live by the paycheck rules, you know what I mean we So I'm thinking six months out I know I'm good probably right now.
00:40:17.000I could sit on my ass for a year before cash ran out.
00:42:27.000I think we talked about this on the first podcast I ever did, that my music is more famous than my face.
00:42:33.000Because I did say, I like to go to Ralph's and get at the Olive Bar and just fucking get olives and nobody knows who the fuck I am and Jump Around is actually playing in the supermarket or something.
00:45:24.000Because I would imagine, if you're standing there, like some of those, I passed by some of those in downtown LA. If you were in a room like this and tried to paint that whole wall just with no ventilation, you probably would.
00:45:35.000But this is mostly outdoor, on the wall, on the bus, on...
00:45:38.000In L.A., the scene was, we had a yard.
00:45:42.000Every crew, you'd have a yard somewhere, like in an industrial area between buildings where there's a brick wall and two buildings, and you'd just bomb them.
00:49:36.000He came in and played on an album of mine on a couple of songs, Love War and the Ghost of Whitey Ford, and he came in with this little crate...
00:49:45.000Amp head, which Crate is not a fancy company.
00:49:47.000It's like a cheaper, not cheaper, I won't insult them, but like it wasn't like super hot.
00:49:52.000It was like some regular fucking head and this one pedal and the sound.
00:50:08.000I have electric guitars, but I could have that same fucking guitar as Gary Clark Jr. right there, and the same equipment, and set it the same way.
00:50:30.000Well, that's what's amazing about someone who can play an instrument like that, is that they're making some sound that it syncs up with our brain so well.
00:50:39.000It syncs up with our hearing so well that it just gives you pleasure.
00:50:44.000And by the way, folks, that's with an iPhone...
00:50:49.000I mean that is a terrible recording device as far as like getting good audio quality So when you they're getting really fucking good There's more computing power than there was it when they supposedly sent people to the moon You know I mean to the moon Alice supposedly do you think they sent people on the moon?
00:52:56.000That's the kind of shit I'm talking about.
00:52:57.000Well, that is about as clear as an example as you can get, where it's $540 billion.
00:53:01.000That's as clear as back when, remember, what, was it 20 years ago when they came up with the whole thing where, like, the Pentagon was paying, like, $1,000 a hammer, and, like, toilet seats were, like, $7,000.
00:58:27.000Sick Jack is one of the most slept on underrated MCs ever.
00:58:31.000Technical weaponry, rhyme style heavenly, learn my pedigree, burn my effigy, spit my therapy, smoke my remedy, passive aggressively, choke my enemy, invoke my reverie, provoke my devilry, bucket list trilogy, war upon industry,
00:58:47.000terminate assassinate with extreme bigotry, heavyweight armor plate, subatomic energy, Necronomicon, triple hexagon, one level Woo!
00:59:15.000I'm pouring in streets in the building baby!
01:01:22.000On some street-level hood shit, but the way he puts it together is so crazy.
01:01:27.000It's almost like we're a representation of like almost like physical like Mental and spiritual like mine's more mental like you guys are like see no here evil here.
01:01:38.000No almost It's a weird car together and when we get together all three of us will tell you it's it's The energy that we create with each other, we don't find it anywhere else.
01:02:07.000And I think that being around a bunch of bad motherfuckers on a regular basis like you are in war porn like everything is probably like everybody's sharp and everybody's not everybody is also aware of the full body of work You're all real hip-hop fans.
01:02:20.000So you're aware of like Nas's best shit.
01:02:22.000Oh, yeah, and Jay-Z's best shit and the bar gets so high and so sharp the edge gets It's sharp.
01:02:28.000So that riff right there, that's one of my all-time favorites that I've heard in the last couple of years.
01:03:03.000But anybody who's listening to me and is really hip to the game knows there's these youngsters that are kind of almost trying to make noise by disrespecting.
01:03:11.000And it's like, listen, the path that was walked before you is the only reason you can fucking wear that fucking cheesy fucking shit jewelry you get and fucking act so ignorant.
01:04:29.000The idea, like, you meet people and personalities vary so much.
01:04:33.000In other words, let me qualify what I was just talking about, actually.
01:04:36.000Because really what I was talking about wasn't young people, if I want to be perfectly clear.
01:04:40.000What I was talking about was people my age that I hear throwing a lot of hate and a lot of just like, oh, that ain't rap or that ain't hip-hop or anything.
01:04:50.000Maybe not to you, but you really just sound old and bitter.
01:04:58.000I didn't try to make a record that Designer or Future or any of these cats that are doing it now would make because that would look stupid.
01:05:05.000I would look like a thirsty idiot because that's not what I'd do.
01:06:49.000Send an extra case this way to the Joe Rogan experience.
01:06:52.000Isn't it amazing that we're interested in stuff that sits in barrels that have been fire-brewed?
01:06:58.000They take fire, they burn the inside of the barrels, right?
01:07:01.000Isn't that part of the process of making this stuff?
01:07:03.000A lot of the new shit, too, is the darker versions is like some people actually get the whiskey that's soaked into the wood and somehow get that out.
01:07:11.000And that's where you get these dark versions of like Jameson Caskmates and other stuff like that.
01:09:44.000I'd probably be the weight I wanted to be.
01:09:47.000I might be closer to the weight I really truly want to be.
01:09:51.000I have a theory and my theory is that much like How will you take sugar out of things and then just have like processed sugar and you eat it?
01:10:00.000It's terrible for your body because it doesn't have all the natural fibers It's very dangerous like you're like you get fat It's not dangerous.
01:10:08.000I'm not saying it's like nuclear power.
01:10:10.000But my theory is that I bet those coca leaves are exactly the same way.
01:10:15.000I bet if you just chew those coca leaves like those people do up in the mountains, I think it's great for you.
01:10:19.000I think it's just like eating fruit is really good for you right now.
01:10:22.000If you have a bowl of fresh blueberries, just because it has some sugar in it, that's really good for you.
01:10:27.000Rich in antioxidants, rich in vitamins.
01:10:45.000I would actually, with all my heart issues, I got a heart valve.
01:10:49.000If you sat two plates on them and a plate of Coke and you said you had to do one of these and here's some Coke leaves, I'd be like, oh, fuck, I'll chew those Coke leaves all day.
01:11:57.000But there's another thing right there.
01:11:57.000When your video started playing, we sparked up again.
01:11:59.000There's the whole thing right there of this whole new, hey, I've smoked my fair share of some dabs and whatnot here.
01:12:05.000But now we're talking about, if we're going to keep it 100% honest, We've always kind of sat around, smoked joints, and be like, we don't really do drugs.
01:13:10.000I'm personally a little bit more into what they call the solventless, like ice hash and shit like that, like a little bit different.
01:13:16.000I mean, BHO scares me a little bit sometimes, I won't lie.
01:13:18.000But there's a thing, there's a trigger that hits me when someone says, you want to do dabs, like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, because you're one of those people that does dabs.
01:15:57.000Now, the wife and I, at the end of a long day, we'll go out in the backyard, because we don't smoke anywhere near the kids because of cystic fibrosis and all that, but we will, like that, and you know what?
01:17:05.000I don't want to just accept it's there.
01:17:06.000I don't want to go Buddhist like that and wash the dishes just to wash the dishes.
01:17:09.000I want to get high to get the fuck out of here for fucking five minutes.
01:17:12.000You know what I find that's one of the most beneficial things about being high is that I'm only thinking about a few things, but I'm thinking about them very intensely.
01:17:21.000Instead of thinking about a whole host of things peripherally, where it's almost like there's too much data coming in from all these other things that I don't really care about or need.
01:17:29.000Look, you care about all sorts of things in your life that you're not going to deal with right now, and to harbor even a chunk of that in your consciousness It robs the rest of your resources for thinking about other things and that's one of the most apparent things about pot to me because like when I here's a perfect example when I smoke pot and then I play pool I am 20% better like a legitimate 20% better and I really think that it's because I'm not thinking about
01:18:00.000oh I got to do this and then I got to call that guy and then this guy I got to respond to his text I got to respond to that person's email when I get high I I just see balls.
01:18:09.000I see balls and green cloth and chalk.
01:18:53.000But the thing about doing that is that, I don't know why, but when you do something correctly, when it all flows in harmony, just like with pool, it's the same thing.
01:19:05.000When you have a long shot and it goes in, if you've ever been at a bar, when you watch people play pool, and some dude makes, or some woman, makes the craziest shot ever for the win, and everybody goes crazy, oh shit!
01:19:16.000Because we know how hard it is to do and there's something poetic and beautiful about watching it happen.
01:19:22.000It's that you just described why golf makes any sense at all.
01:19:29.000I like to hit the balls, and fucking I suck.
01:19:32.000But what keeps you coming back is you'll play that 18-hole day, and one time you'll hit the shot that you meant to hit, the way you meant to hit it, and it went where you meant to go, and you're like, I can do that again!
01:20:08.000It's the same reason I've never done coke, the exact same reason.
01:20:11.000My friend in high school, Jimmy Lawless, good buddy of mine to this day, when we were back in high school, we went to a party, and people were doing coke, and he goes, Joe, don't do it, you'd fucking love it.
01:20:22.000It's like Dewey Cox, the movie where he's like, you don't want this!
01:20:25.000And I was like, okay, Jim, I trust you, buddy.
01:22:27.000It's just like, that's what that drug creates.
01:22:30.000And that's why, I think three times in my life I've done it.
01:22:34.000Well, any drug that radically changes your brain chemistry, whether it's whiskey, or whether it's coke, or, you know, honestly, even pot, especially pertaining to edibles, we should watch very carefully what happens when people take it.
01:22:46.000You know, and I think that's one of the things that I've been guilty of, and I know a lot of other people have been guilty of it, too, just to totally come clean.
01:22:52.000I defend pot so much that I never look at the potential negative consequences of people doing pot if they're too young.
01:22:59.000Because I didn't do it when I was young.
01:23:35.000And then the next time I did, I was probably like 14. And then I did it probably maybe again when I was 17. I did it about 14 when we cut school and a couple of kids that were the cool guys that kind of took a liking to me.
01:23:48.000And I was like, cool, cool kids like me.
01:23:49.000I'm going to go hang out with these dudes.
01:23:57.000Nothing might happen to you the first time.
01:23:59.000But I remember vividly hitting this joint with these dudes and literally spending probably an hour and 30 minutes laughing my balls off at nothing.
01:24:08.000And I thought it was the greatest thing ever.
01:24:23.000Weed is another thing that's probably semi-responsible for my path.
01:24:27.000I had a very important moment when I was 16. I had only smoked weed a handful of times before I was 30 years old, like less than 12, like legitimately.
01:24:37.000And one time when I was 16, it was me and my girlfriend and my best friend who went over her house and I had stole some weed from my stepdad.
01:25:56.000I went from, like, the end of elementary school into junior high, right, in that era.
01:26:00.000So, like, once we hit the junior high, it's like a lot of the Mexican kids I was hanging out with started hanging out with the little bit older Mexican kids, and a lot of them were dealing in, like, kind of gang life over there.
01:26:11.000It's just part of the way they get down.
01:26:13.000And a lot of them like to fucking do dips, which is like a fucking Sherm cigarette dipped into my fucking...
01:26:46.000And literally, the way you just described that time traveling, it was like, I felt like if I thought of something to do, by the time I was finished with the thought of thinking to do it, I had already done it.
01:27:34.000But it made for a good story on Joe Rogan, so now we're even.
01:27:40.000I had an ex-boxing coach who had his finger bitten off when he was on dust and he had his toe removed and his second toe replaced his index finger and he made it curled so that he could keep throwing right hooks.
01:27:57.000So when you'd shake his hand, you'd shake his hand.
01:29:35.000I don't know if that's the right word.
01:29:37.000But strange and uncomfortable as being around And I'm not talking about like ex-marines or guys who have been in the war or anything like that.
01:29:48.000I'm talking about like a civilian person, and I've been around quite a few of these kind of people, whether it be biker gang guys or whatever, that you know.
01:30:48.000That's funny because I had a cousin when I was young, like before, like probably 1918. I was in California visiting and he was a correctional officer.
01:30:59.000In upstate New York and he said the thing they were taught first is cuz all they walk around there's only like maybe 30 guards at a time on duty and what?
01:31:11.000You know depending on what the circumstances are and all they have is a big metal key ring And they're taught the first thing you fucking do is punch a dude right in his fucking throat Yeah, if you feel like you're any kind of thing that's the and he told me that like that He was like if I was gonna give you any advice and you felt like you were fucking say the first thing you do and I And he explained it well enough that I knew,
01:31:30.000even as a young man, like, you're playing with a person's life punching them in the fucking Adam's apple or something.
01:32:09.000And sometimes they crumple from chin shots, but I think it's the same thing.
01:32:12.000I think what the chin shot is doing is somehow or another pinching the garden hose that is the spine and shutting the system off.
01:32:20.000It's also, if I'm not mistaken, your brain sits in that little bit of fluid, and if your skull moves fast enough, the brain doesn't move as fast, and if the brain touches the skull, that lights out.
01:33:06.000I've never experienced it, nor can I throw one that high.
01:33:09.000But I would imagine why it might be worse is because like, alright, you can punch and it's the motion of the head almost and the brain not moving that is causing the knockout.
01:33:18.000If you get kicked like this, it's a shin, it's everything.
01:34:39.000You know, unless you're like some high, even like Hoyler Gracie fucks up when he's wearing the gi pants because he knows that those gi pants provide insane amounts of friction and traction and can clamp ahold of you and he can do some shit to you that you're just gonna be super uncomfortable with.
01:34:53.000In a way, that's as much of an advantage for him to be able to wear the gi pants as it would be for a striker to wear the gloves.
01:35:00.000But only a striker gets to wear the gloves.
01:35:02.000Like, the grapplers have to wear shorts.
01:35:04.000It's really kind of interesting because having your knuckles taped up and having your knuckles padded up is a real advantage for someone who knows how to hit things.
01:35:14.000Because you can be much more relaxed and liberal with your use of punches.
01:35:19.000You don't have to worry about hitting bones.
01:35:21.000But you would never allow that the other way.
01:35:24.000Like giving the option of a striker to wear hand pads and then a grappler to wear gi pants.
01:35:30.000It's like we have a very accepted idea of what's civilized.
01:35:34.000One of the things is you cover your knuckles.
01:35:35.000It's kind of stupid because you don't have to cover your elbows.
01:35:38.000People are smashing and slashing people up with their elbows.
01:35:42.000My case against it is that it's not logical.
01:36:24.000Yeah, it's kind of fascinating when you think about it, but I really do think that the gloves, I think we're doing a huge disservice to the art of fighting.
01:36:31.000Because I think we have unrealistic expectations based on the idea that you could just punch someone with padded knuckles.
01:36:37.000I think if we didn't have padded knuckles, we'd be much more clever in how we use our hands, because you might break your hand at any shot.
01:36:44.000And it would be easier to choke people, so jujitsu would be more effective.
01:36:48.000Two of those things are way better for the athletes.
01:36:51.000And way better for the honest interpretation of what fighting is.
01:36:55.000The problem is no one's gonna agree to that because people from home, they're gonna look at it and go, oh, this is barbaric.
01:37:10.000What's the difference between your fist and your chin?
01:37:12.000You're preaching to the choir with me, but...
01:37:15.000What's the difference between you catching one in your knuckle or catching one on the end of your foot when you kick someone's face sideways?
01:37:21.000You can wheel kick them in the head with your heel, but you can't punch them with bare knuckles.
01:38:19.000They're trying to breathe, and you're crushing your arm and their teeth.
01:38:22.000Rarely do you see his arm come away bleeding or something.
01:38:24.000I'm saying there's a rare occasion, but far less rare would be if there was no gloves and you're punching a guy in the mouth, you're going to catch them teeth.
01:38:33.000There's going to be a lot more cutting of the hands, too.
01:38:49.000And then you have a space in the middle.
01:38:50.000Bernard Hopkins always used to fight with one of those.
01:38:53.000And it covers your lower teeth and your upper teeth and there's a space in the middle and you breathe through that and you breathe through your nose and you get used to doing that.
01:39:00.000And the lower mouth guard, the problem with having only an upper mouth guard is most people do that, but only an upper mouth guard will work for the most part.
01:39:08.000But there is, if you're bare knuckle, there's a real argument for using an upper and a lower because you're dealing with a different situation.
01:40:14.000He was in Puerto Rico Talking shit on Felix Trinidad, at the time, the fucking almighty fucking son of all Puerto Rico, took the Puerto Rican flag, which if you know about Puerto Rican guys, and I know plenty of Puerto Rican guys,
01:40:29.000you put that flag on anything, they got so much pride.
01:40:31.000They'll buy it, they'll wear it, the flag is everything.
01:40:42.000Where he steps on the Puerto Rican, in Puerto Rico, and I literally told my friends, if he gets off that island, nobody on earth is beating his ass.
01:40:49.000I was like, because they should be trying to fucking kill him right now, if I know anything about Puerto Rican people.
01:41:05.000Anytime it was a black guy versus any Spanish guy, it could be any kind of Spanish guy, I would always bet against the house and more times than not, I won.
01:41:15.000But like, yo, he stomps on the goddamn flag and got out of that island.
01:46:15.000If Floyd didn't tag him with a knockout punch in the first few seconds of the fight, Conor would be way away from him kicking his legs out.
01:46:27.000What if Conor took the fight with Mayweather and just came out, picked him up, slammed him on the fucking ground and dismantled him and like ripped his arms just to do it.
01:47:26.000Come on, don't act like you didn't say let's drink some whiskey.
01:47:28.000Now, if you expect Neverlast to say no to let's drink some whiskey, then you have made the faux pas.
01:47:34.000But what I want to say real quick, because I've been drinking and I haven't been there in a while either, my good friend Jason Ellis just won his King of the Cage match a week ago.
01:48:45.000I was saying I think earlier I'm here because I followed road signs and I just I I consider myself Adept at reading the signs of life and where I'm put when there's the the forks in the road I happen to be good at making the right choice There's certain guys that don't give a fuck about the fork in the road and determine their own fucking path and decide you're kind of one of those dudes And I admire that in a way.
01:49:09.000I know I recognize there's a skill and a talent and a blessing in what I do, but there's something about being able to decide something and fucking make it so, even though maybe it's not supposed to be so.
01:50:22.000The whole key, I think, to anything you do, whether you're a guy who makes furniture or a woman who paints or whatever the fuck you do, whether you're a rapper or a blues singer or a stand-up comedian or an author, whatever the fuck.
01:50:47.000Half of the reason why you're not tuning in perfectly to whatever fucking vibration is available to you in the universe is you get in your own fucking way.
01:50:57.000You get in your own way with insecurity and with ego and with expectation and with pressure and with all the different judgments you cast on different forms of art that you may or may not like.
01:52:59.000Direct subordinates one of my guys that worked for me he would he would call me up or pull me aside with some major problems some issue that was going on And he'd say boss we got this and that and the other thing and I look at him and I'd say good and Finally one day he was telling me about some issue that he was having some problem and He said I already know what you're gonna say I Said well,
01:55:17.000My kids got pneumonia and are fucking left Lund to a degree that nobody fucking knows what to do and fucking even the doctors are perplexed.
01:55:33.000All I'm saying, I actually came on this show today to say if something in this realm, if somebody in the Valley area or LA greater area, my Twitter's OG Everlast, my fucking, everything's the same.
01:55:44.000OG Everlast or Eric Schrody on Facebook.
01:55:49.000I need a little help in the sense that I want to be in better shape, but I travel so much, and then at home is a stress of like, I want to go to the gym.
01:55:57.000I couldn't go to the fucking gym for the last 10 days.
01:55:59.000It was either me or my wife at the fucking hospital.
01:56:02.000No, no, no, Joe, I don't want to make you feel bad at all.
01:56:04.000I want to say it's like, that was beautiful.
01:56:10.000That is fucking supremely motivational on any level, except what I'm trying to say is like, skating your way around this fucking kind of emotional fucking dilemma of like, it's hard.
01:58:16.000You don't get on a fucking platform like Joe Rogan and say, hey, I'm failing at this, unless you're fucking trying to do something about it, you know what I mean?
01:58:26.000I want to achieve I don't want to be you, but I'm like, I see the way I've been watching.
01:58:39.000Another thing that has also gotten to me and gets me when I do get to work out, it's because I hear Joe Rogan tell me, don't let the inner bitch fucking get you.
01:58:51.000And that's been a big motivator for me.
01:58:53.000But it's not an inner bitch to be disturbed and upset and your life upheaved by this thing.
01:59:30.000Like, how do I... Broken and snapped by a guy who tapped me out or or life just kicked my ass and I didn't get the job or the Opportunity I wanted and good I understand that but I am personally struggling with Not using this as an excuse,
01:59:48.000but the truthful, emotional fucking agony of seeing a child tell you, and not just tell you, but go through this hospital of the last two weeks, these things of like, how do I be stronger?
02:00:03.000And what I'm saying, I'm not being argumentative with you again, is saying, please, if you've got a book, tweet it to me.
02:00:10.000If you're the dude who fucking is local and says, I know how to help you, plus, I understand I have a heart valve replacement.
02:00:32.000I'll I'll get distrustful of my own heart like a pain or a tinge that really might not be anything will come along and fucking scare the shit out of me because there's nothing I never was afraid of anything in my life Until I had children and the only thing I'm afraid of on this planet is not being here for my children My life or death.
02:01:44.000But there's too much extra energy spent on things that aren't helping you.
02:01:51.000I know you have these time constraints, but to focus on them is counterproductive.
02:01:55.000Because you have the time constraints, the time constraints rob you of your time, and then the focusing on the time constraints and the agony of those time constraints and the fucking frustration of having those time constraints robs you of more time and more energy.
02:02:44.000And then I thought about that that day and then I applied that to my life because that's the best advice anybody could ever get if anybody was doing anything they don't like to do.
02:02:55.000Of course you don't like to do it, but to concentrate on the fact that you don't like to do it compounds the not like to do it aspect of it.
02:03:06.000Actually, what you're describing is actually a lot of the stuff I'm reading right now, which is like the art of mindfulness, which is, again, when I keep saying wash the dishes to wash the dishes, it's kind of like saying exactly that.
02:03:16.000Like, wash your dishes to wash your dishes.
02:03:18.000Don't wash your dishes to get to the next thing, because then you're not living life.
02:03:21.000You're not breathing, you're not living in your moment.
02:03:30.000In the last couple years, especially through the little social media that I managed to be successful at, that people want to know the real deal.
02:12:01.000I know it doesn't happen often, but anything like staff or anything like that is so dangerous for Layla that it's really scary.
02:12:08.000So like working out in a gym with like 40 guys working out, there's two frightening things for me working out in a normal jiu-jitsu class.
02:12:16.000The fucking average novice that doesn't realize he's fucking stupid and fucking pulls my left arm out or my right arm out and I can't play guitar for fucking six weeks or six months even.
02:14:55.000And it even hails back to the beginning of what we talked about, the blues and the reds.
02:14:59.000They are trying to separate us because we're communal.
02:15:02.000And if we all actually sat down, even the most fucking worst opinion over there and the worst opinion over there, if we were all in the room together, we could find somewhere over here where we could both at least be the least bit angry at each other.
02:15:17.000I honestly think we should eliminate political parties.
02:15:43.000It's better because, again, hailing back to what we said earlier, the day after the president's elected, it seems like they're talking about who's going to run in 2020 already.
02:16:00.000What I want to say is, The day after our president is elected, we shouldn't be talking about who's going to be the next fucking president until that guy fucks up enough to say who's going to be the next president.
02:16:13.000And again, we are in some extremely absurd and weird circumstances at the moment, but under normal circumstances, my argument would just be...
02:17:13.000We need to figure out what these things are that we're talking about living with, because I don't think there's very many of them that we're really disagreeing on between the left and the right.
02:17:22.000I think there's a lot of bullshit, and I think it's a lot of what we were talking about earlier, this tribal bullshit, dig our heels in the sand.
02:17:28.000The people who elected this personal president right now...
02:17:57.000What I'm saying is like a lot of people said fuck the whole system and for a second they bought into the fact that this guy actually might think the same when this guy spent his entire life fucking over the working class dude.
02:18:07.000In fact, as much as I would have voted the other direction for whatever you want to say, and again, I don't give a fuck.
02:18:18.000That was an entitled motherfucking person who was only given that fucking position because for some reason the elite of that party thought it was her turn or something.
02:19:10.000Bernie Sanders was probably our most logical choice, but I said fuck him because I read his tax plan and he would have fucking raped me!
02:19:19.000So, it's like, there's got to be, I don't know, there's got to be a whole new system where the money is, there has to be a flat tax kind of thing where every fucking person from corporation, the problem is too many corporations are considered legally people.
02:19:33.000Dude, we're talking way too much about politics.
02:20:12.000No, I just think it's a fact of the way they set up programs.
02:20:16.000They set up a program to say, what's going to be most...
02:20:18.000Like, the guy who invented Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg, whoever's his team, whoever's his team, wants the people who use his product to be the happiest they can be with it.
02:20:31.000So, if they look at the things you click on and start developing a pattern in an algorithm, and you click on these extremely right things, or you click on these extremely left things, sooner or later, that's all that's going to be on your page.
02:20:44.000Instagram even changed their fucking algorithm to it's not like what was just last posted.
02:20:48.000It's what was last posted that's most popular and what's appealing to you that you like.
02:21:23.000I understand what you're saying, but I think that an alternative point of view would not be that you're getting fed.
02:21:29.000Would that be these algorithms recognize your interests?
02:21:32.000And whether it's golf or South American fishing or fucking skydiving, whatever the fuck you're interested in, you start searching for that, it'll give you things that you can- But it's not just what you're searching, it's what you're liking.
02:21:44.000And it's like you're saying, the conversations that you've best had in your life are almost alternative opinions.
02:21:51.000And those start getting filtered out of your feed.
02:22:13.000I hope he's listening to you, but you hear what I'm saying though, right?
02:22:16.000It's not a fucking dismissed idea that there's guys who got their heads fucking down just trying to get their paycheck for the next week to get their fucking mortgage paid, and they look up for a long enough time, and maybe Facebook is the one thing they look at a week, and then that's where they get their information from.
02:22:32.000Yeah, but that's not Facebook's fault.
02:22:34.000That Facebook creates an algorithm that reinforces what your interests are.
02:23:42.000Comedians, truthfully, are the people who are challenging the status quo right now.
02:23:46.000Whether you're talking about the guy on HBO who has the Last Week Tonight show or the Daily Show kind of news, more Americans, and this is a studied fact, trust comedic news as truth than they do fucking Anderson fucking Vanderbilt Cooper.
02:25:38.000And I know we didn't want to go here and I know I tried to push it off for like hours, but I ain't making it personal about a president or a thing.
02:25:45.000I'm saying there's a system in place that's fucking keeping us locked down and it's fucked up and it's money related.
02:25:52.000And if we took money out of it, we could get more of an honest politician who would actually give a fuck about your kid.
02:25:58.000And whether there's fucking power lines going over your house, or whether you got healthcare, or whether you got this or that.
02:26:03.000Until then, don't expect me to give a fuck about any of y'all.
02:26:49.000There should be some kind of system that says it's not fucking the Koch fucking brothers pumping billions into a dude, whether it's through misdirection or fucking whatever.
02:29:08.000I could see that someone would want to lease something because it'd be a nice tax write-off, especially if you're incorporated, which I'm sure you are, and Bill is, and I am.
02:29:16.000But also, I could see someone who says, I like knowing.
02:29:19.000The guy who's got money has the games down because I have the guys who give me the information.
02:29:23.000There's a lot of guys that would say, I like knowing.
02:30:46.000My man Terminology, who's on the Warporn album, a rapper, started it as a movement for, like, you know, inner city kind of shit to get the Good Dad thing going, and it's Good Dad, and he's blowing it up, and it's doing really well.
02:30:57.000And I'm gonna get you a bunch of merch.
02:30:59.000But you can go get it also at gooddadgang.com.