The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #973

00:00:11.000 Boom.

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00:00:15.000 Fuck yeah.

00:00:15.000 Joe Rogan, my man.

00:00:16.000 Thanks so much for having me back.

00:00:18.000 Thanks for coming back.

00:00:19.000 There's a lot of people everywhere I... This is the fucking Tonight Show, man.

00:00:22.000 Before I go, man, I heard you on Joe Rogan.

00:00:25.000 Heard you on Joe Rogan.

00:00:26.000 It's been the last year of my life, so...

00:00:29.000 I can stop fucking answering them when I'm going to be back.

00:00:34.000 I'm back right now.

00:00:34.000 You are back right now.

00:00:36.000 Yeah.

00:00:36.000 Feels weird.

00:00:37.000 It feels like I was here like two days ago.

00:00:39.000 That's a problem.

00:00:42.000 Maybe you were drinking too much on the road.

00:00:44.000 I definitely was drinking too much.

00:00:47.000 The last tour I ended up in...

00:00:52.000 I don't want to make it sound too bad.

00:00:53.000 I ended up in the emergency room in the last tour.

00:00:55.000 With the IVs, with the fucking fluids and shit.

00:00:58.000 Yeah.

00:00:59.000 I went a little too...

00:01:00.000 I don't know.

00:01:01.000 They said it was kind of just exhaustion and, you know, whatever.

00:01:07.000 You know, the normal...

00:01:08.000 I think the people at the emergency room wouldn't believe me that I wasn't, you know, on hardcore drugs.

00:01:13.000 Because they come in and I'm just fucking out of it.

00:01:16.000 And I... They're like, where have you been?

00:01:20.000 I've been out on tour, and they're like, oh shit, we know what's up.

00:01:22.000 And they, of course, did all my blood work, and there was no shit in there.

00:01:25.000 Nothing at all?

00:01:27.000 No, I think it was honestly kind of just...

00:01:30.000 They did find some kind of bug that I had been on that probably was more of it than I thought, but I really do think it was just...

00:01:43.000 Kind of non-stop, every night, rocking out and, you know, pushing it a little too hard.

00:01:50.000 So you really did wind up in the emergency room?

00:01:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:01:52.000 I mean, the official diagnosis was just exhaustion.

00:01:55.000 What were you worried about?

00:01:56.000 Like, what did you think?

00:01:57.000 You didn't think you could just go to sleep?

00:01:59.000 Like, how does one go to the emergency room for being tired?

00:02:01.000 What happened was, I was off the tour and I had a meeting with some managers and shit, and in the meeting I fucking barfed.

00:02:08.000 Like in a nice building.

00:02:10.000 We're in a nice building talking about shit.

00:02:12.000 We're actually talking about the shit that Rick is over here doing.

00:02:15.000 It was like guys in suits and I fucking threw up on myself.

00:02:18.000 Whoa.

00:02:18.000 And they go, are you okay?

00:02:19.000 And I go, I think I am.

00:02:21.000 And then they hand me a banana to get some food in me and I couldn't peel the banana.

00:02:26.000 So then I drove myself to the emergency room.

00:02:29.000 You couldn't peel the banana.

00:02:30.000 I didn't have the strength to open a banana.

00:02:32.000 Really?

00:02:32.000 Yeah.

00:02:34.000 But I do now.

00:02:35.000 And then I drove myself to the emergency room, and they hooked me up to IVs, put me on fluids and everything.

00:02:43.000 Just to give you an example, when they finally said I was good to go, I went back out and I couldn't fucking find my car.

00:02:50.000 And I checked my parking ticket.

00:02:51.000 I was like, where's this lot?

00:02:52.000 And I called the guy in the lot.

00:02:54.000 He's like, yeah, your car's in here.

00:02:57.000 The windows are down and it's running.

00:03:00.000 Apparently, I just drove myself to the emergency room and fucking closed the doors and walked into the emergency room and said, help me.

00:03:07.000 Wow.

00:03:09.000 We talked about it last time.

00:03:12.000 A guy who was a big help to me then.

00:03:14.000 I reached out to Sturge.

00:03:16.000 I was like, do you ever get...

00:03:17.000 At the time, I didn't know I had a bug.

00:03:20.000 I thought it was just pure exhaustion.

00:03:23.000 Doesn't that sound like the old rock star heroin excuse?

00:03:26.000 He's exhausted.

00:03:27.000 He has to cancel a tour.

00:03:28.000 I reached out to Sturgill and he's just like, yeah man, you gotta take care of yourself out there.

00:03:34.000 It's mental, physical, everything fatiguing.

00:03:37.000 I think I need to figure out a way.

00:03:39.000 It's funny, I forget who you were talking to a few weeks ago, talking about...

00:03:45.000 You're talking serious shit about, like, suicide and stuff and about how exercise is such an important part of that.

00:03:50.000 And I've been on a pretty, like, vigorous...

00:03:52.000 I've been...

00:03:52.000 You can't tell, but I've been running a ton, which you've been running, too.

00:03:55.000 Yeah.

00:03:56.000 And I was talking to a doctor recently, and he was, like...

00:04:00.000 He was talking about a study they did with...

00:04:24.000 I don't want to give out, you know, medical information, but that's, you know...

00:04:27.000 Yeah, the woman I had on, Kelly Brogan, she's a psychiatrist, she said that it's more effective, that exercise is actually more effective than psych meds.

00:04:35.000 I'm wondering if that, just the fact that a doctor told me that makes me think that he was airing, you know, he still wants to sell the drugs, but I'm just wondering if, like, um...

00:04:44.000 Because when I fucking run, I feel fucking great.

00:04:47.000 I mean, I can't do it in cowboy boots and shit.

00:04:49.000 But, you know, it's hard to do it.

00:04:50.000 It's hard to wake...

00:04:51.000 When you do the tours, too, it's just hard to wake up before a show and just go home.

00:04:56.000 Yeah, it's very hard.

00:04:57.000 But you've got to do it.

00:04:58.000 You've got to do it like it's brushing your teeth.

00:05:01.000 It's just something that is...

00:05:02.000 If you give yourself the possibility that you won't do it, then you won't do it.

00:05:08.000 Exactly.

00:05:08.000 And I think in the back of my head, I'm like, well, this is a tour.

00:05:10.000 This is a little vacation.

00:05:11.000 A little break.

00:05:12.000 And that's just, that's when I need it the most.

00:05:14.000 So I gotta start.

00:05:15.000 When you think about it as a tour, is that what you think about?

00:05:17.000 I think about it as work.

00:05:18.000 I think about it as work, but I think about it as like, that's my excuse for not.

00:05:22.000 Oh, okay.

00:05:22.000 Oh yeah, it's definitely, it's definitely more work than anything.

00:05:25.000 Yeah, the human brain seeks comfort, man.

00:05:27.000 We like to fuck ourselves up by trying to take those little naps that you don't really need and blow things off that you really should do.

00:05:34.000 It's a weird thing.

00:05:35.000 Shit, we just got back from New York City and I, I fell asleep on the couch for, you know, I just woke up from, I just slept for 12 hours.

00:05:43.000 Wow.

00:05:44.000 And I feel, I mean, I feel great now, but...

00:05:46.000 I bet it would help you with this touring.

00:05:48.000 I bet if you, like, really got hardcore into shape and started eating right, I bet it would definitely help you with this tour.

00:05:54.000 Oh, totally, yeah.

00:05:54.000 Well, I'm not gonna, we got a tour lined up for, I think, mid-July, and I'm not...

00:05:59.000 I'm not going if I don't do, like, if I don't get up and, if I don't make sure there's someone there making me do all that shit, I ain't gonna do the tour.

00:06:06.000 Dude, I've been looking at your tour online.

00:06:08.000 I've been looking at some of the photos and videos from your shows.

00:06:10.000 They're insane.

00:06:11.000 Yeah, it's been pretty crazy, you know.

00:06:13.000 You're doing giant places.

00:06:15.000 I don't know about giant, but, you know, uh, hoping it gets bigger, but, um, it's been, it's been fun.

00:06:21.000 It's a, it's a, um, It's been a fucking blast, you know.

00:06:27.000 To me, one thing, and I hate to change the subject, but it's just like, you know, I got the new record out here, pointed out, and...

00:06:35.000 Still making records.

00:06:36.000 Yeah, I think this one's better.

00:06:38.000 Jamie, what do you think?

00:06:38.000 That's not what I mean.

00:06:39.000 I mean, like, actual physical copies.

00:06:40.000 Yeah, I know.

00:06:41.000 It's the only thing I can bring.

00:06:41.000 I can't, like, bring it.

00:06:42.000 Like, it's linked to Spotify.

00:06:44.000 I know.

00:06:44.000 Isn't that weird, though?

00:06:46.000 Yeah.

00:06:46.000 It's almost like these are kind of silly now.

00:06:49.000 Yeah, because I gave it to one guy, he's like, you give it to somebody, their laptop doesn't even have a CD player, and they're like, thanks for the CD, I'll throw it in the back of the car and load it up.

00:07:00.000 Well, you can listen to it in the car.

00:07:02.000 Most cars still have a CD player, for now.

00:07:04.000 I bet they'll stop pretty soon.

00:07:05.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

00:07:06.000 I used to have an Acura NSX and had a cassette player in it still.

00:07:11.000 The cell phone holders, that's where they're putting the thing to hold them now.

00:07:14.000 Instead of putting it in your air filter thing or the AC comes out to clip on that, there's like a little thing that spreads out and just fits in the CD slot.

00:07:23.000 It's taking up space.

00:07:24.000 I don't know about you, but my new thing is everywhere I go, you know, I rent a car.

00:07:27.000 I'll get to the airport and I'll rent a car.

00:07:29.000 Right.

00:07:29.000 And the first 20 minutes is me sitting in that fucking car trying to figure out the Bluetooth.

00:07:34.000 You find that and it's just like every fucking one.

00:07:36.000 They make it so fucking impossible.

00:07:37.000 Yeah, I love Cadillacs, but goddamn that Escalade infotainment system is a piece of shit.

00:07:43.000 It's so bad.

00:07:44.000 It's so hard to work.

00:07:46.000 Apparently they switched it now and they're gonna do Apple CarPlay, which is infinitely better.

00:07:50.000 Yeah, my Uber driver had that the other day.

00:07:52.000 I asked him.

00:07:53.000 I finally had something to talk about with my Uber driver.

00:07:55.000 He was explaining it to me.

00:07:56.000 It looked like the whole interface was just on the...

00:07:58.000 Yeah, it's like a phone.

00:07:59.000 It's not the whole interface because, you know, you can't get most of your apps, but you get things like messages, podcasts, things along those lines.

00:08:06.000 Yeah, I mean, what I was kind of getting to before is, you know, we're talking about the crowds and shit, which was when I first put out these crazy records of mine...

00:08:16.000 You know, the assumption was, you know, there's nowhere to go, terrestrial radio won't play me, I ain't doing foul and all that shit, but I don't want to kiss your ass too much, you know that, but it was kind of finding this kind of, like, this is all,

00:08:32.000 everything's fucking equal now.

00:08:33.000 That was kind of the big breakthrough for me, was like, And I did, a few weeks ago, did Joey Coco Diaz, who's my new favorite fucking dude.

00:08:42.000 He's the best ever.

00:08:43.000 And I'm now in the Rogan world.

00:08:45.000 I did that and Bert Kreischer.

00:08:46.000 Oh, you're in.

00:08:47.000 It's like doing The Tonight Show, then Colbert.

00:08:52.000 And I'm telling you, these things, and I've got numbers to prove it.

00:08:55.000 There is no mainstream media.

00:08:57.000 It's like, if you go through the back door and do all this shit, it's bigger than that fucking shit.

00:09:01.000 Well, mainstream media, if you know the actual numbers that they get, it's not even close.

00:09:07.000 Like a good show on CNN might get a million, a million and a half views.

00:09:12.000 If we got a million and a half downloads, we'd be pretty bummed out at this point.

00:09:16.000 Yeah, it's crazy because the week I came in here, I never even told you this, so that week I came in here, someone has access to these numbers.

00:09:24.000 I don't have them, but they said...

00:09:27.000 I sold more albums from being on here than the artist that week did on SNL. So this is...

00:09:34.000 That makes sense.

00:09:35.000 Like, what does SNL get?

00:09:36.000 What kind of views does SNL get?

00:09:40.000 On a good episode, we'll get 10 million downloads.

00:09:43.000 That's fucking crazy.

00:09:43.000 I mean, also, too, here, it's me talking to you on SNL. It's like, do they make it to the music?

00:09:49.000 Probably not.

00:09:49.000 They're just there to do some funny fucking...

00:09:51.000 Well, not only that, they don't watch the whole thing, because SNL... I love SNL, sometimes.

00:09:57.000 SNL's one of those things, though, they fuck you, like, 70% of the time.

00:10:00.000 Yeah, I got really pissed about...

00:10:01.000 8.7 million views, oh, with The Rock.

00:10:04.000 Yeah.

00:10:05.000 That's a big one.

00:10:06.000 Oh, the finale?

00:10:07.000 Okay, so that's their big one of the year.

00:10:09.000 So their big one is smaller than yours.

00:10:12.000 Yeah.

00:10:12.000 A normal one.

00:10:14.000 Okay, Melissa McCarthy was $10 million.

00:10:16.000 Those are their top two for the year.

00:10:17.000 Oh, the top two.

00:10:18.000 Okay.

00:10:19.000 So our top one for the year was Alex Jones, which was, what, $15 million?

00:10:23.000 And then number two would be Neil, I think.

00:10:25.000 And then Alex Jones got to put out a country record.

00:10:28.000 He should.

00:10:29.000 He probably should.

00:10:31.000 Reptilians and black helicopters.

00:10:33.000 He could do it, too.

00:10:34.000 He's from Texas.

00:10:35.000 That shit would sell, yeah.

00:10:36.000 I fucking would.

00:10:37.000 If Alex Jones just went into country music, country New World Order music...

00:10:41.000 I'll fucking...

00:10:42.000 Reach out.

00:10:44.000 I'll produce that shit.

00:10:45.000 You should go on a show.

00:10:46.000 You should go on a show and just start talking crazy shit about Sturgill again.

00:10:49.000 Yeah, oh, by the way, and this is not for lawyer reasons, but Sturgill Simpson is not affiliated with the CIA, nor is he a trained CIA assassin.

00:10:58.000 I want to get that on the record.

00:11:00.000 Last time, it's possible, I may have mentioned that.

00:11:02.000 I think you did.

00:11:03.000 I think you said he worked for James Comey, and he was...

00:11:06.000 Yeah, he has no affiliation with the CIA. He's doing some weird fucking gigs in Europe this year that look a little fishy to me.

00:11:15.000 And I don't get it, but...

00:11:17.000 You think he might be over there doing some hits on the side?

00:11:20.000 The lawyer part of me says no, but the sensible part of me, he's doing some dates in Europe with John Prine.

00:11:26.000 I think John Prine kind of talks to him, settles him down, and then Sturgill fucking takes him out.

00:11:31.000 Who's that guy?

00:11:32.000 Who's John Prine?

00:11:32.000 You know John Prine?

00:11:33.000 Great fucking folk kind of country singer.

00:11:37.000 He's great.

00:11:37.000 I'm just getting into the country world over the last four years.

00:11:40.000 I would almost call him more like folk.

00:11:43.000 He's more in that kind of Isabel Sturgill.

00:11:45.000 Him and Sturgill share an office in Nashville.

00:11:47.000 Yeah, Isbell's in a weird category, right?

00:11:49.000 He's kind of country, but he's also kind of folk.

00:11:52.000 Yeah, I mean, at this stage, we don't know...

00:11:54.000 Nowadays, what the fuck is country?

00:11:55.000 I don't know.

00:11:56.000 I complain about it all the time, but, you know...

00:11:58.000 Jason Isbell is a bad motherfucker, though.

00:12:00.000 Oh, dude, he's the best.

00:12:01.000 Goddamn, he's good.

00:12:02.000 I heard a few songs from his new record, Sounds Killer.

00:12:04.000 Yeah.

00:12:05.000 I think he's gonna ruffle some feathers, too, because it sounds like a little political, which is a no-no in that world, you know, so...

00:12:13.000 It's kind of a crazy day.

00:12:14.000 Did you watch any of that shit this morning?

00:12:16.000 The Comey stuff?

00:12:17.000 No, I didn't watch it.

00:12:18.000 Did you watch it?

00:12:19.000 I watched some of it, but it was...

00:12:20.000 I felt like it was a waste.

00:12:22.000 It's just like...

00:12:24.000 Shit we knew before.

00:12:26.000 Politicians lie.

00:12:28.000 Comey.

00:12:29.000 I felt like we knew.

00:12:30.000 I didn't see anything fucking new.

00:12:32.000 It seems like it's way too easy to fire him.

00:12:35.000 Like, you just decide you don't like what he's doing and fire him.

00:12:38.000 There didn't seem to be any real, clear, definitive reason why he was fired.

00:12:42.000 Yeah, I mean, to me, the main news is, like I said, politicians lie.

00:12:46.000 Newsflash.

00:12:46.000 And the other one was, like, you know...

00:12:48.000 They kept making the point that Trump is different than most presidents.

00:12:53.000 He used to host a reality show.

00:12:54.000 No shit, we knew that.

00:12:55.000 That was their big takeaway.

00:12:57.000 Two hours of fucking...

00:12:59.000 I just used the time to fucking tweet about my new record.

00:13:02.000 I kept tweeting that James Comey was all code for my new record, that he wanted people to buy it.

00:13:07.000 I know, I saw some of your Instagram posts that had Comey endorsing your album.

00:13:11.000 Yeah, he's a big fan.

00:13:12.000 He said he wanted to talk about it during the hearings, because that's a big audience, but apparently...

00:13:17.000 They wouldn't let him?

00:13:18.000 Yeah, a collusion between me and Comey would have fucked things up.

00:13:20.000 Is that what it's called?

00:13:23.000 Yeah.

00:13:23.000 Well, actually, it's funny, because this guy...

00:13:25.000 Because they say there's a chance, which is looking less like...

00:13:29.000 There's this guy, Luke Combs, who's like my arch-nemesis, even though he's a good dude.

00:13:32.000 I just...

00:13:33.000 He was up against me this week on the country charts, because my album comes out...

00:13:37.000 My new album came out this week, and I'm trying to beat him, and I said on Twitter that Russians have colluded with Sony Records to, like, have him outsell me, and he kind of played along, so we'll see.

00:13:47.000 I think they are.

00:13:49.000 I mean, Nashville's definitely trying to keep me down, but...

00:13:51.000 Are they really?

00:13:52.000 Are they fucking with you?

00:13:53.000 How are they receiving you now, now that you've become a mainstream success?

00:13:57.000 Because I hear about you all the time, Donald Cowboy Cerrone, I think you know that, he listens to your music before he goes out and fights.

00:14:03.000 Oh, Cowboy Cerrone reached out to me thanks to you.

00:14:05.000 He called me up and he was on the set of a movie.

00:14:09.000 With Michael Madsen and they go, I don't know how, it seems like last second, but they go, hey, cowboy, you got a scene tomorrow where you sing karaoke with Michael Madsen.

00:14:17.000 Any song you want to sing?

00:14:19.000 And he's like, fucking eating pussy, kicking ass.

00:14:20.000 The producer's like, what the fuck are you talking about?

00:14:23.000 He's like, I want to sing eating pussy, kicking ass.

00:14:25.000 He's like, do you have the rights to this song?

00:14:26.000 He's like, I'll have it in like five minutes.

00:14:28.000 And he just fucking calls me.

00:14:29.000 I call my people.

00:14:30.000 He's like, now I'm in a movie with Cowboy Cerrone and Michael Madsen singing Eatin' Pussy, Kickin' Ass.

00:14:34.000 And he said he was in the trailer, you know, like, you know, rehearsing with Michael Madsen, you know, gets to the Suckin' Dick Park.

00:14:40.000 And I think he was just like, what the fuck we singing here, man?

00:14:47.000 So yeah, he's been awesome.

00:14:49.000 And, um...

00:14:50.000 Yeah, like I said, too, I'm now in, like, your world, you know, doing...

00:14:53.000 I just did...

00:14:54.000 I was telling you before, I did Joey, Coco, Diaz, Bert Kreischer, like, all these dudes.

00:14:58.000 It's like, it's cool to have...

00:14:59.000 It's cool, because I went into this second album, I was like, I gotta make my fucking money back, you know?

00:15:04.000 It wasn't about the money, I'm just saying, it's like, what am I gonna...

00:15:07.000 It's gonna be the same shit again, but, like, knowing I have these other places to go now is so fucking great.

00:15:12.000 Yeah, well, that's...

00:15:13.000 There's a transition happening, and I think for the longest time, they always felt like...

00:15:18.000 The whole idea of mainstream media, that was just going to be locked up.

00:15:23.000 That was going to be the case forever.

00:15:25.000 It's done.

00:15:25.000 CBS, NBC, the cable news networks, they were going to be there forever.

00:15:29.000 That's not really the case anymore.

00:15:31.000 It's just not.

00:15:32.000 And like I said, I've got the numbers to prove it, but, you know, I came...

00:15:36.000 Everyone was telling me, you know, you can't get on fucking Good Morning America.

00:15:39.000 You can't be on fucking Terrestrial Radio.

00:15:42.000 And I just kind of lucked into finding this, and you guys been being supportive and shit.

00:15:46.000 It's just like...

00:15:47.000 These things are, it's all, I think I saw Marc Maron, some guy was tweeting to him like how your podcast fucking it ain't the Tonight Show or something, and he said something back to the guy, you know, it's just all media now, and that's kind of how I look at it.

00:16:01.000 Yeah.

00:16:02.000 It's all fucking even.

00:16:03.000 Right.

00:16:03.000 I mean, I mean, you guys are probably bigger than what they quote-unquote mainstream media, but to me it's just all part of the same fucking thing.

00:16:13.000 Yeah, what's bigger and what's more popular is all kind of silly.

00:16:16.000 But the one thing that's different is that if you go to mainstream media, if you go to television shows, for the most part...

00:16:22.000 You're not going to get a 100% dedicated audience.

00:16:25.000 You get people who are just flipping through the channels.

00:16:27.000 So some people might fall upon it because they were looking for it, but a whole lot of people are just going to be flipping channels.

00:16:33.000 Like, what's on?

00:16:34.000 Let's check it out.

00:16:34.000 Exactly, and the people who listen to you, like, that's why the first podcast, you know, I don't want this whole podcast to be a review of the last one, although I wouldn't mind, because I had a blast, but...

00:16:44.000 When they tune in to you, it's your buddy.

00:16:47.000 If you say buy the new Wheeler Walker Jr. record, they fucking buy it.

00:16:50.000 Buy the new Wheeler Walker Jr. record.

00:16:52.000 There.

00:16:53.000 I said it.

00:16:54.000 They're gonna buy it now.

00:16:56.000 It's called Old Wheeler.

00:16:58.000 By the way, I just found out something.

00:17:00.000 Either of you guys know about this?

00:17:01.000 I became a hit yesterday on something I never heard of on black Twitter.

00:17:06.000 You became a hit on black Twitter.

00:17:07.000 You know what black Twitter?

00:17:08.000 Jamie's a big fan of black Twitter.

00:17:10.000 He alerted me to black Twitter.

00:17:12.000 I wasn't even aware until about a year ago.

00:17:14.000 It's weird.

00:17:14.000 I didn't know, but the more black people I can bring to country music, the happier I'm going to fucking be.

00:17:18.000 Darius Rucker's not bringing in a ton?

00:17:20.000 No, no.

00:17:20.000 Just white girls, right?

00:17:21.000 It's all white people, yeah.

00:17:22.000 Most of the white girls, too, right?

00:17:24.000 Probably, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:17:25.000 But no, no, I'm the king of black country.

00:17:27.000 And I'll say that loud and proud.

00:17:29.000 Really?

00:17:29.000 Yeah.

00:17:29.000 So they took a clip from Fuck You Bitch from the first record and one of the big black Twitter guys put a clip of it and at the top it's like, I didn't know country music went this hard.

00:17:42.000 And so then it got millions and millions of views, and all of a sudden, because now the new album, Old Wheeler, is out, and the first one's going back up the fucking charts, too, because of black Twitter.

00:17:57.000 So we got white people buying the new one, and black people buying the old one.

00:18:01.000 Interesting.

00:18:02.000 Yeah, who's this guy?

00:18:04.000 If you know Black Twitter, do you know Daquan?

00:18:06.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:18:06.000 Daquan.

00:18:07.000 You know Daquan?

00:18:08.000 Yeah, it's a really big Instagram account.

00:18:10.000 I'll pull it up for you.

00:18:10.000 And who is this fella?

00:18:12.000 It's not a fella.

00:18:13.000 It's a group of people like the Fuck Jerry account.

00:18:15.000 Oh.

00:18:17.000 I have no idea.

00:18:18.000 So they're like a business?

00:18:19.000 Definitely.

00:18:20.000 And then Erykah Badu fucking tweeted about it and shit.

00:18:23.000 Who's that?

00:18:24.000 She's a big singer.

00:18:26.000 Yeah, she's the biggest singer in the 90s.

00:18:27.000 R&B singer.

00:18:27.000 The biggest singer in the 90s?

00:18:29.000 No, no, no.

00:18:29.000 A big singer in the 90s.

00:18:30.000 Oh.

00:18:31.000 She's the song Tyrone.

00:18:33.000 Tyrone.

00:18:33.000 The song Tyrone.

00:18:34.000 I feel like I'm calling in from another planet.

00:18:36.000 I have no idea what this is.

00:18:37.000 This is a fucking black show today.

00:18:39.000 Yeah, black Twitter is fascinating to me.

00:18:42.000 I thought it was like a hashtag, but it's not even.

00:18:46.000 Dayquan.

00:18:46.000 Nine million followers.

00:18:48.000 Wow.

00:18:49.000 Yeah, go down.

00:18:49.000 You'll see it down there somewhere.

00:18:51.000 Right there.

00:18:53.000 It's on the right, yeah.

00:18:54.000 I never heard of a country diss track till now.

00:19:05.000 2,700,000 views.

00:19:08.000 And that was in a few hours.

00:19:09.000 After being on the road for a fucking year, I should have just talked to Daquan.

00:19:14.000 Well, there's so many of those guys that have YouTube accounts now, too, that they'll put up a video just talking about something that just happened in the news, and they'll get seven million views.

00:19:24.000 You know what's crazy you say that?

00:19:25.000 Because one of the guys I work with called me up, and they go, who's Jehovah?

00:19:32.000 And they go, somebody on your video keeps talking about Jehovah.

00:19:36.000 And so, of course, I look it up.

00:19:37.000 There's a guy playing, he just fucking plays video games in his parents' basement.

00:19:41.000 And while he was playing the video, and millions of people watch, while he's playing the fucking video games, he was singing my songs, just along to it.

00:19:49.000 And the album went back up the charts.

00:19:52.000 And it's like, that's the world we live in now, is a dude in his mom's basement singing...

00:19:57.000 Sorry if you don't live in your mom's basement, Jehovah.

00:19:59.000 He probably doesn't.

00:20:00.000 He's probably making millions of dollars playing video games.

00:20:03.000 That's what's crazy.

00:20:04.000 And then he tweets me.

00:20:06.000 He goes, I always thought about doing a podcast.

00:20:09.000 He goes, you mind if I just Skype in and just try it out with you?

00:20:13.000 And I'm like, that's where other artists would just be like, fuck that.

00:20:16.000 I go, I'm home.

00:20:17.000 Yeah, let's do it.

00:20:18.000 So I went on his...

00:20:19.000 He posted an interview with me on his YouTube page, and it just...

00:20:23.000 I don't know that it was huge, but it was just like, why say no?

00:20:27.000 It's like you said, it's all fucking even now.

00:20:30.000 Yeah, it might not even be even.

00:20:33.000 Guys like that PewDiePie guy, I don't know how much he's dropped off since the Nazi controversy.

00:20:38.000 But that guy, he has millions and millions of downloads for every single thing he does.

00:20:44.000 Like, he might be above mainstream media.

00:20:47.000 I think that's one of the reasons why he felt like they were going after him.

00:20:50.000 Like, the Wall Street Journal went after him.

00:20:52.000 Was it the Washington Post or the Wall Street Journal?

00:20:54.000 Wall Street Journal?

00:20:56.000 I think it was both of them eventually.

00:20:57.000 They went after him and they kind of made it seem like he was a Nazi sympathizer.

00:21:01.000 He was making a few inappropriate jokes, apparently.

00:21:04.000 What'd he say?

00:21:04.000 He just joked around and did like a Sieg Heil salute or something like that, but he was apparently making fun of people that were Nazis.

00:21:11.000 Making fun of the idea of being Nazis.

00:21:13.000 That's all been distorted and twisted.

00:21:17.000 I agree with you.

00:21:18.000 This new record, I feel like there's people out there that are coming after me and trying to make sure I don't chart high.

00:21:25.000 By the way, I'm banned from all the chains.

00:21:27.000 Are you really?

00:21:27.000 Best Buy?

00:21:29.000 Best Buy, Walmart.

00:21:31.000 Who fucking buys this stuff anymore on there?

00:21:34.000 Exactly, but the weird thing is country music fans do, and that fucking pissed me off.

00:21:37.000 And there was this other site, Pledge Music, where you can pre-order albums.

00:21:41.000 I was the first album they ever dropped.

00:21:43.000 So they're buying CDs still.

00:21:45.000 Is that one of the few genres that still buys CDs?

00:21:48.000 First of all, one of the few genres that buys CDs.

00:21:50.000 So I can't compete on the charts as well, because they're making sure I don't go...

00:21:55.000 And I think, honestly, it's not just the language that's bothering me, it's the fact that I'm doing it outside this.

00:22:00.000 Oh, yeah.

00:22:00.000 Like, you can't go on Rogan and Joey Diaz and, you know...

00:22:05.000 Like, we have a way that we do it.

00:22:06.000 We do it on the radio, we go on fucking Tonight Show, like, you're messing up...

00:22:10.000 Like, it's all these guys in suits walking down Music Road in Nashville, like...

00:22:14.000 Don't tell anyone that nobody needs us or you're going to fuck up our fucking jobs.

00:22:20.000 Yeah.

00:22:20.000 Well, I think also they don't like that you're opening up the door for people doing pretty much anything in country music now.

00:22:28.000 With the crazy fucking lyrics and the fact that it's been so successful.

00:22:31.000 And you got people, you got a whole goddamn theater filled with thousands of people singing along to eating pussy and kicking ass.

00:22:39.000 My favorite one is when I go out on tour and I see a sea of just, like, dude, you know, bros, backwards baseball hats, and they're all singing along, which one of you queers is going to suck my dick?

00:22:50.000 And they're singing every fucking word.

00:22:52.000 And for all I know, I was going to call it the Make America Gay Tour, just because I think they're all going home.

00:22:58.000 I think because they listen to everything, I think they're just going home and blowing each other.

00:23:01.000 Do you think that you have that kind of power with a really good song, Get a Guy to Go Homo?

00:23:07.000 I mean, if anyone can, it's me, because my songs are that fucking good.

00:23:10.000 But there's no way these dudes have ever in their life screamed, which one of you queers are going to suck my dick.

00:23:14.000 Yeah, I would imagine.

00:23:16.000 In a fucking open fucking area.

00:23:19.000 Yeah, but along with a bunch of other people doing it.

00:23:22.000 That's the thing.

00:23:22.000 Gives them freedom.

00:23:23.000 Yeah, I think it's weird.

00:23:24.000 Yeah, it's probably weird for their wives when they go...

00:23:26.000 If they have a wife.

00:23:27.000 Yeah, what'd you do tonight?

00:23:28.000 We went out with 800 dudes and screamed about blowing each other.

00:23:32.000 She'd go, hmm, did you actually blow each other?

00:23:35.000 Like, girls will find a loophole.

00:23:37.000 Like, no, we didn't actually do it.

00:23:38.000 Okay.

00:23:39.000 Yeah, I think I'm kind of...

00:23:41.000 I'm hoping to get some of the women back with this...

00:23:43.000 Do you think you lost a lot of them with Fuck You, Bitch?

00:23:47.000 No, the women...

00:23:48.000 That's women's favorite song, because I think they can...

00:23:50.000 They could sing it, too.

00:23:52.000 They see it, like, from...

00:23:56.000 A victory perspective?

00:23:57.000 Yeah, that they had that much...

00:24:00.000 For example, the woman who made me write Fuck You Bitch had that much power over me to make me write that fucking song.

00:24:06.000 Does she know who she is?

00:24:09.000 I think she does now, unfortunately.

00:24:12.000 Do you think she laughs?

00:24:15.000 No, I think she's honestly upset.

00:24:16.000 And that's happened a couple times.

00:24:19.000 I've been on some...

00:24:20.000 You know, there's this podcast I fucking love called...

00:24:24.000 I think you've talked about it before, too.

00:24:26.000 The Guys We Fucked podcast.

00:24:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:27.000 Which is basically women talking about dudes the way that guys talk about women.

00:24:33.000 Right.

00:24:34.000 And I fucking love it.

00:24:35.000 And it's the way women talk about men when we're not around.

00:24:39.000 So it's like an eye-opener for dudes.

00:24:41.000 But for some reason, there's been no...

00:24:43.000 No one's really done that before and I was in New York to impress and they'd reached out before they wanted to use one of my songs.

00:24:48.000 I was like, while I'm out there, I was like, can I stop by?

00:24:50.000 And of course, I just start telling a bunch of fucking stories and then my phone starts blowing up like, don't fucking, you know, don't fucking talk that shit.

00:24:57.000 And I got in a lot of trouble for that one because you can't really go telling those kind of stories on it.

00:25:01.000 Because my thing was, I didn't know that the podcast was that fucking popular.

00:25:06.000 Yeah, they're very popular.

00:25:08.000 They're a good example of what I use.

00:25:09.000 People always try to say that, oh, you can't start a new podcast and have it be successful today.

00:25:14.000 I'm like, that's not true.

00:25:15.000 Those girls started that podcast just a couple of years ago.

00:25:17.000 It's fucking gigantic.

00:25:19.000 Yeah, I mean, I got a lot of fucking people talking.

00:25:21.000 I mean, I lost some pussy over it, but I got in a lot of trouble.

00:25:25.000 That's sad.

00:25:25.000 Well, don't forget, I got a podcast, too.

00:25:27.000 You do?

00:25:28.000 Yeah.

00:25:29.000 When did you start doing that?

00:25:30.000 Like a month ago.

00:25:33.000 What's weird is it was the number one music podcast for like a month.

00:25:38.000 And I'll even admit, the problem with doing a podcast now, and I kind of want your notes on this, but the problem is with someone like me who sells records is I don't get the months of...

00:25:53.000 Testing and you know, it's like they hear it from the everyone listen to the first you know, there's no way there's I can't experiment as much and I can't you know I see what you're saying.

00:26:01.000 Yeah, well your first case with us to our first ones are terrible Well, I'm saying but that was to him but but yeah, but you but it was probably for but it was at least before it got huge Yeah, yeah for sure, but they're still available like if people who I'm gonna start from the beginning They might get to episode three and go fuck this dude Yeah,

00:26:18.000 I mean you were in the early days you were doing just like straight to video right with like video effects and shit like that.

00:26:23.000 Yeah, sometimes.

00:26:23.000 Yeah, we had snowflakes in the background and we'd do it right to a webcam.

00:26:27.000 I love it.

00:26:27.000 Yeah, I mean it's been fun.

00:26:29.000 It's it's a cool way to just talk directly, you know to your people, but um It's not my natural what happens is and you had you had you talked a good example about the other day, which is You just have conversations like I've been doing them all over the phone because all the musicians I want to talk to are on the road.

00:26:49.000 And when you do it over the phone, it becomes like an interview.

00:26:51.000 And I don't want an interview.

00:26:52.000 I just want to talk to my friends.

00:26:54.000 Over the phone and over Skype, they're both weird.

00:26:56.000 I mean, it's better than nothing.

00:26:58.000 Some people do it well.

00:26:59.000 Like Sam Harris does a good podcast over Skype.

00:27:01.000 But I think that it's just you lose something.

00:27:04.000 You want to be in the room with somebody.

00:27:05.000 Yeah, I mean, Bert was the one who told me that.

00:27:08.000 Said, like, you know, don't do it over the fucking phone.

00:27:10.000 And then I did one in person with a singer I really like, and it was so much fucking better.

00:27:15.000 We were just hanging out.

00:27:16.000 That's what I liked to listen to when I was in the podcast, is buddies hanging out, you know.

00:27:21.000 So when you started touring from your last album, and it was this just out of the gate, surprise, smash hit, took the whole country music industry by storm, what was that like?

00:27:35.000 Did it feel surreal?

00:27:37.000 Because it seemed surreal on the outside.

00:27:39.000 Yeah, what felt surreal was...

00:27:42.000 Because of my...

00:27:43.000 That's why this one's so much different.

00:27:46.000 And I kind of hate it that there's expectations.

00:27:48.000 Because I left the studio on the first album with the...

00:27:51.000 I just paid cash for it, I think I told you.

00:27:53.000 I didn't have a label.

00:27:54.000 I didn't have any way to release it.

00:27:57.000 And I was just like, this is a great fucking record, but it's a bummer no one's going to hear it.

00:28:01.000 And then I finally started getting it out there.

00:28:03.000 And so then I really thought it was going to just be like a cult record.

00:28:07.000 And like I was going to run into some dude 10 years from now down the street go, you know...

00:28:11.000 I dig the record.

00:28:14.000 The guys who do the tours for me were calling up like, you're not going to fucking believe this, man.

00:28:17.000 We sold out LA. What's weird for me is because it's so country to me.

00:28:24.000 We did a West Coast tour and I'm like, what the fuck are we doing a West Coast tour for?

00:28:27.000 The whole West Coast sold out.

00:28:31.000 It's like, how the fuck did I sell tickets in Seattle and Portland?

00:28:34.000 That makes no fucking sense to me.

00:28:35.000 Like, do they even know what country music is there?

00:28:37.000 I think it's almost like they're looking at me in a glass cage, like, look at the redneck in his natural habitat kind of thing.

00:28:44.000 You think so?

00:28:45.000 I think they're just having fun, man.

00:28:46.000 Well, I think they're having fun.

00:28:47.000 I think it's that, too.

00:28:48.000 I think they're also...

00:28:49.000 There are a lot of people out there who do love country music, and if you love it, there's not much of it left anyway, not to mention not much that probably goes to Seattle or Portland.

00:28:57.000 Isn't there seemingly some sort of a resurgence, though, in, like, really good country music?

00:29:01.000 Seems like there is.

00:29:02.000 Seems like there is a little bit, you know...

00:29:04.000 You know, there's Sturgill, Isbell...

00:29:08.000 You know, the guys who still aren't...

00:29:10.000 Chris Stapleton?

00:29:11.000 Stapleton, yeah.

00:29:14.000 Yeah, I mean, I feel it, too, but then again, you know, there was an award show on, there's like a country music award show on, like, every fucking week now.

00:29:22.000 Are there really?

00:29:23.000 Well, there's a lot.

00:29:24.000 There was one last night, like, for the CMT Awards.

00:29:27.000 Like, how do they even have, don't they just show fucking redneck reality shows?

00:29:30.000 But is CMT still country music television?

00:29:33.000 Because I think they're, like, changing or something, right?

00:29:35.000 Aren't they changing, like, their name?

00:29:36.000 Yeah, they reached out to me about something, and I said, I told them I wanted to host the Top 20 Countdown.

00:29:41.000 I got a hard pass on that.

00:29:43.000 They're like, would you make fun of the artists?

00:29:45.000 I'm like, if they're shitty, yeah.

00:29:46.000 I'm just like, alright, see you fucking later.

00:29:50.000 Yeah, I feel like real country's coming back, but I also feel like the shitty stuff is getting bigger.

00:29:58.000 It's not that pop bro country shit which I talked a lot about last time.

00:30:03.000 Florida Georgia Line.

00:30:04.000 There's a new song by this guy Chris Jansen called Fix a Drink that just came out.

00:30:08.000 I'm looking at everything that's coming out the same week as mine.

00:30:10.000 The song Fix a Drink, it was the worst fucking thing I've ever fucking heard in my fucking life.

00:30:16.000 It's this white guy just kind of rapping about Fox News and he sings about, I can't fix the world but I can fix you a drink.

00:30:23.000 I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ.

00:30:25.000 It's doing well?

00:30:27.000 It's doing better than me.

00:30:28.000 There's a lot of mutants out there.

00:30:29.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of...

00:30:30.000 I mean, who the fuck would...

00:30:32.000 I mean, even if you're not an expert music fan, who would want to listen to a song about a dude fixing a fucking drink?

00:30:39.000 A dude who wants to fix a drink?

00:30:41.000 A dude with limited use of his brain?

00:30:43.000 Exactly.

00:30:44.000 That's like his main...

00:30:46.000 But think about it.

00:30:48.000 We know there's a lot of fucking idiots, right?

00:30:50.000 Think about how many people are just dull-minded folks.

00:30:53.000 And then think about how few people are talking directly to them.

00:30:56.000 And then finally someone comes along that does.

00:31:00.000 Finally, yeah, finally.

00:31:01.000 Enough about, you know, life and, you know, enough Sturgill, you know, about life and, like, what it's about.

00:31:06.000 Finally, something I can relate to.

00:31:08.000 Just how much whiskey, how much sour, you know, that's what I want to fucking hear about.

00:31:12.000 Some people just want life simple down.

00:31:14.000 Isn't that sort of always been the knock on country music in the beginning?

00:31:18.000 Country music, what it does is sort of reinforces these stereotypes of this simplified world that doesn't really exist.

00:31:25.000 They tried to get me on that shit before.

00:31:26.000 Did they?

00:31:27.000 How so?

00:31:28.000 I think they were just like, you know, you're like doing like a...

00:31:30.000 You're like mocking redneck...

00:31:32.000 You're using a mocking redneck shit and all the crazy shit.

00:31:36.000 You know, like fucking your cat and like, you know...

00:31:39.000 You know, killing your dog and all that shit.

00:31:41.000 I didn't think they got that.

00:31:42.000 I was just kind of making fun of my buddies back, you know, like, what the cliche of being a redneck was.

00:31:47.000 You know, and I still see it.

00:31:48.000 It's weird because we were talking about the political shit, like, in SNL. There was a sketch on SNL near the end of the season.

00:31:55.000 I don't know if you saw it, but it was Alec Baldwin doing Trump, and he was in a small town called Union, Kentucky, is what they said, which is actually not far from me.

00:32:03.000 And the whole idea of the sketch was that this...

00:32:10.000 Which I've been hearing a lot with these Southern people who were so dumb that they voted against Trump against their own interests, which I'm so sick of that fucking narrative, you know?

00:32:19.000 Against their own interests?

00:32:20.000 How can they say that?

00:32:21.000 Well, they're just saying that, like, there's a lot of—there's been a lot of shit in the press about how, you know, these old quote-unquote Southerners and rednecks voted for Trump, but it's like— They're the ones who are going to lose their health.

00:32:32.000 Have you been hearing that a lot?

00:32:34.000 I don't know.

00:32:34.000 Maybe it's just from my point of view.

00:32:36.000 But I found it very condescending to Kentuckians.

00:32:40.000 I don't like the sketches.

00:32:42.000 It seems like the 40s, some character, hey, Mr. Trump, that kind of shit.

00:32:51.000 I think that people are nervous because the same thing that you're saying when you're talking about how there's no mainstream media anymore and there's just media.

00:33:00.000 When a guy like Donald Trump gets in office, it's changed what being a politician is.

00:33:06.000 Because now it seems like anybody could be a politician.

00:33:09.000 Now we had a reality star that became the President of the United States.

00:33:12.000 What is this?

00:33:14.000 There's no real president there.

00:33:16.000 It's just a guy.

00:33:17.000 We have no control.

00:33:19.000 There's nothing we can control anymore.

00:33:20.000 We can't stop non-politicians from being president anymore.

00:33:23.000 And it seems like they were able to do that for the longest time.

00:33:26.000 Obviously, there's a lot of other factors.

00:33:28.000 He's very rich.

00:33:29.000 He's very famous.

00:33:30.000 He handled a bunch of politicians for many, many years and paid them off and understood from behind the scenes.

00:33:38.000 Is that going to be the next 20 presidents?

00:33:40.000 Yeah.

00:33:41.000 President Kanye...

00:33:42.000 Coming up.

00:33:42.000 Mark Cuban is the one they're talking about.

00:33:44.000 He's a good one.

00:33:45.000 He's rich.

00:33:47.000 He's a nice guy.

00:33:48.000 Smart.

00:33:48.000 Yeah, I mean, why not?

00:33:49.000 He'd be superior.

00:33:51.000 It's entirely possible he might do it.

00:33:53.000 Yeah.

00:33:53.000 I mean, that's the one I keep hearing.

00:33:54.000 But yeah, it could just be from now on you just buy the presidency.

00:33:58.000 Well, it could be.

00:33:59.000 I mean, until we figure out that's a dumb idea, that being a president is a dumb idea.

00:34:03.000 It's a dumb idea to have one person running shit.

00:34:06.000 Just the fact that Trump has the ability to fire that call me guy is ridiculous.

00:34:10.000 That he could just say, I don't like what you're doing, you're fired.

00:34:14.000 Like, doesn't he have to have some, like, rocks...

00:34:16.000 Like, if you get fired from Walmart, they have to have a reason.

00:34:20.000 You can get fired from the fucking head of the FBI and he doesn't like the fact that you're not willing to drop an investigation?

00:34:29.000 That seems insane.

00:34:32.000 Yeah, the whole thing is just fucking...

00:34:34.000 I mean, there's nothing more you can say other than that this guy hosted a reality show and now he's president.

00:34:39.000 And I think that's another thing that fucking scares people about old Wheeler Walker Jr. is, you know, country stars aren't allowed to fucking talk about that shit.

00:34:48.000 You know, you can't talk politics.

00:34:49.000 You gotta fucking...

00:34:50.000 Right, remember when the Dixie Chicks talked about George Bush?

00:34:52.000 They still can't go back.

00:34:53.000 Yeah, they're done.

00:34:54.000 What happened with that?

00:34:56.000 They were essentially blackballed from country music for years.

00:35:00.000 For saying that they were against the war.

00:35:02.000 Which, by the way, which Trump...

00:35:05.000 Basically got elected saying, you know, he kept saying he was against that war, too.

00:35:09.000 Yeah.

00:35:10.000 So they like, you know...

00:35:11.000 Well, I think they said that he's an embarrassment.

00:35:14.000 That they're embarrassed that George Bush is their president.

00:35:16.000 I think it had more to do with...

00:35:17.000 They said it at a club in England, so doing it out of the country.

00:35:20.000 It's like, you can't leave the country and talk shit about America while you're not...

00:35:23.000 But if that was pop music, that would be super standard.

00:35:26.000 Like, no big deal at all.

00:35:27.000 Oh, yeah, that's the weird thing.

00:35:27.000 I mean, like, you know, me and you, we grew up on, like...

00:35:31.000 Dylan and you know Beatles and whatever Hendrick people all they did was talk about that shit, you know, Neil Young It's like he has whole albums just you know fuck this Politician fuck this guy and you just can't do it in country.

00:35:42.000 I don't know why that is.

00:35:43.000 Well, it's the same thing we're talking about that simplified narrative that these stereotypes of This world where, you know, you go to bed, and you get up in the morning, the birds chirping, and you work hard all day, and, you know, and everybody loves God, and it's just this simple version of the world that's boiled down to,

00:36:02.000 like, there's things that are allowed inside this simple version of the world.

00:36:07.000 And there's things that are expected, and then there's things that are just not discussed.

00:36:11.000 You don't discuss sucking dick and kicking ass.

00:36:13.000 Yeah, I mean, you're supposed to keep that to yourself, about sucking dick and kicking ass.

00:36:17.000 You're not supposed to, in any way, mock the president.

00:36:21.000 Well, that's the other thing, too, is my first single, Pussy King.

00:36:26.000 That's your new...

00:36:27.000 The first song, I put that out, and everyone got so pissed, you know, you can't be...

00:36:32.000 I go...

00:36:32.000 And I said in the interviews, I'm like...

00:36:34.000 I heard worse talk about this on Meet the Fucking Press.

00:36:38.000 You know, they show...

00:36:40.000 Right, all that grab the pussy talk.

00:36:42.000 Yeah, I was like, I'm not grabbing the pussy, I'm just talking about how I'm going to stick my dick in it, with consent, you know?

00:36:47.000 Yeah.

00:36:47.000 I don't think I used the word consent in the song.

00:36:49.000 But I think even grabbing them by the pussy was implied consent.

00:36:53.000 Because he was saying they let you.

00:36:55.000 They let you grab them by the pussy.

00:36:56.000 That whole thing was so fucking weird because it's like, I hate to still be talking about it, but it's like, I just found it funny.

00:37:05.000 It didn't change my opinion of the guy at all.

00:37:08.000 Well, you knew he was a scumbag.

00:37:09.000 I mean, you knew in whatever ways.

00:37:13.000 That's just who he is.

00:37:14.000 I think part of it, too, is...

00:37:15.000 I don't know about you guys, but I'd never heard that phrase before, grabbing by the...

00:37:19.000 You know, it's like...

00:37:19.000 No, yeah.

00:37:20.000 It's not something I'd heard, so it was new.

00:37:21.000 Here, I have a question for you guys.

00:37:23.000 I have a question for you.

00:37:24.000 What do you think?

00:37:24.000 Here's a theory I have, which is...

00:37:27.000 Do you think someone in the Trump Organization, I've been wondering this for like a year now, secretly after that happened, because he's smart, no doubt he's a smart businessman, copyrighted that phrase?

00:37:38.000 Because you know spring break from now on there's going to be grabbing by the pussy shirts.

00:37:41.000 Maybe for a little while you could sell it, but I think that's kind of died off.

00:37:45.000 Those things have like a short shelf life.

00:37:47.000 Like those fidget spinners.

00:37:49.000 Anybody making those fidget spinners?

00:37:51.000 Sell as many as you can now.

00:37:53.000 Because a year from now, no one's going to have a fucking fidget spinner.

00:37:55.000 Is that part of black Twitter?

00:37:56.000 No, no, no.

00:37:57.000 It's kids.

00:37:58.000 They have these little things and they spin them.

00:38:00.000 And they hold them up on their finger and they spin around in circles.

00:38:03.000 And people are buying that shit.

00:38:04.000 People buy them like crazy.

00:38:06.000 Yeah, I was looking at them the other day.

00:38:08.000 I was like, how the fuck did this become a popular item?

00:38:11.000 But it won't be for very long.

00:38:13.000 You know what?

00:38:14.000 I've seen those online, just these things spinning around.

00:38:17.000 Is that how dumb we've become?

00:38:19.000 You're just watching shit spin around?

00:38:20.000 Yep.

00:38:21.000 Well, there's another thing to do in this anti-stress device that you hold on to, and it's got switches on it and buttons that don't do anything.

00:38:29.000 You just hit switches and press buttons.

00:38:31.000 And supposedly, like, if you hold onto this thing while you're stressed out and start hitting switches and pressing buttons, you feel better?

00:38:36.000 Yeah, I'm sure that works like a fucking charm.

00:38:40.000 I think I can go back.

00:38:40.000 Let's just run instead.

00:38:42.000 Oh, by the way, we haven't even mentioned, but I think, Rick, you're cut.

00:38:47.000 I'm so fucking big now, they're doing a fucking TV special on me.

00:38:49.000 Yeah, we have a guy here from Showtime who's doing a Showtime special on you.

00:38:54.000 They're recording my life and work, and, you know, it's weird for me to...

00:39:03.000 That they're making a TV special about me, but they're letting me do it on censored, telling the real story, and I was like, fuck it, just shoot it.

00:39:11.000 All right, man, but they follow me around like that, and I'll do an interview in five minutes, and I'll just go get the fuck out of here.

00:39:17.000 Wow.

00:39:18.000 How's he with that?

00:39:19.000 Does he bring it up afterwards and go, hey, man, the way you told me to fuck off was kind of harsh.

00:39:23.000 No, that guy's really cool, because the guy who's doing it I don't know if I'm allowed to say his name.

00:39:30.000 He's part of the Jackass crew, so he's literally the show Jackass, so the fact that there's no fucking goat jizz and shit, I'm sure he's just happy.

00:39:40.000 Yeah, he's excited there's no explosions.

00:39:42.000 And also, don't forget he's working, so anytime someone says fuck off, he's off the clock.

00:39:45.000 Ah, there you go.

00:39:46.000 That's right.

00:39:47.000 So he gets to relax.

00:39:49.000 Yeah.

00:39:50.000 So this Showtime thing, are they doing a Showtime special like you're going to play your music on?

00:39:55.000 Yeah, I don't know how much music's going to be.

00:39:57.000 They've been following me around forever, and they're going to do like...

00:40:00.000 I don't know what the title will be, because like I said, this is literally the first time I've ever mentioned it on any sort of...

00:40:05.000 Jesus, it's a scoop!

00:40:07.000 Yeah, do you got that Rogan exclusive button you can press?

00:40:10.000 Yeah, wish we had one.

00:40:12.000 And they've been following me around for years, not years, but for a couple years now.

00:40:18.000 Obviously, we've got footage from the old days, so they're going to tell my whole life story.

00:40:23.000 And we'll get some songs in there and, you know...

00:40:26.000 I was just psyched to be able to hopefully fucking tell it my way and not sick of all these fucking...

00:40:30.000 All these lies and rumors.

00:40:33.000 Lies and rumors.

00:40:34.000 Yeah, I mean, it was weird too, because that was another thing too about Comey today, which is, Comey admitted, he's like, they kept bringing up these New York Times articles, he's like, no, that's not true.

00:40:44.000 You know, almost like backing up Trump, you know, he's saying like, you know, these stories, if the head of the FBI under oath is saying that these stories, he goes, how much of it's true?

00:40:54.000 He's like, none.

00:40:55.000 Had the FBI saying that a New York Times article was completely untrue, I gotta believe him, you know?

00:40:59.000 Yeah, there's definitely people that are printing things they hope are true with a limited amount of references that can verify it.

00:41:08.000 Yeah, it's like, and there's also, too, there's stories that will sell newspapers.

00:41:13.000 It's not just that.

00:41:14.000 It's also the bias of the people that are writing the stories who are heavily left-wing.

00:41:18.000 You're really freaking me out with that bottle.

00:41:20.000 You keep opening it and closing it.

00:41:21.000 Yeah, this is still from the airport.

00:41:23.000 Are you tweaking?

00:41:24.000 No, I'm fine.

00:41:24.000 It seems like you got something going on with that opening and closing that bottle.

00:41:28.000 I'm going to stop now.

00:41:29.000 It's become a fidget thing.

00:41:30.000 Like one of them fidget spinners.

00:41:33.000 That's what it is.

00:41:34.000 That's why they do it.

00:41:34.000 We're selling Wheeler water bottles to get the stress relievers.

00:41:38.000 Wheeler-Walker water bottles.

00:41:40.000 What were we just talking about?

00:41:44.000 Stress...

00:41:44.000 You were talking about New York Times something.

00:41:46.000 Oh, the bias of the people who are writing it.

00:41:48.000 They want to get at Trump.

00:41:50.000 So if they have any sort of an article...

00:41:53.000 That even might be true.

00:41:55.000 They kind of think might be true.

00:41:57.000 It seems like it would be exciting if it was true.

00:41:59.000 They just run with it.

00:42:00.000 I thought that was interesting what Comey said, actually, which is like, because it's highly classified information, he's not allowed to go out there and say it's not true.

00:42:08.000 Right.

00:42:08.000 Because that would, you know...

00:42:10.000 Sure.

00:42:11.000 Would put them in a weird place.

00:42:13.000 Then you know what top secret information isn't true.

00:42:16.000 So he has to keep quiet about it.

00:42:18.000 So when he's doing these interviews, and they're rather...

00:42:22.000 When he's under investigation, they're giving these statements, how do they justify it then?

00:42:28.000 How does he say it's not true?

00:42:30.000 Because isn't that still top secret?

00:42:32.000 Well, this is, you know, he's under oath and they're asking him, I guess, is just the only reason.

00:42:37.000 But there are definitely some questions where he said, I'm not allowed to, you know, I can't say that in an open hearing.

00:42:42.000 Yeah, that's what I figured was one of the reasons why Trump could fire him, because he wouldn't be able to talk about the investigation until they hired a special prosecutor and all the stuff that you're seeing now.

00:42:51.000 I would assume that, you know, people are like, oh, Comey's going to talk.

00:42:54.000 I'm like, well, he can't really talk.

00:42:56.000 That's one of the reasons why Trump can fire him, because that guy's under oath.

00:42:59.000 And, you know, rather, all the stuff that he's talking about is top secret.

00:43:03.000 What's he allowed to talk about now that he's gone?

00:43:04.000 Is it the same rules?

00:43:05.000 No, it's top secret.

00:43:06.000 Everything's top secret.

00:43:07.000 I bet he's not allowed to talk about his job at all.

00:43:09.000 I bet they could fire him.

00:43:10.000 Not fire him, rather.

00:43:11.000 I bet they could arrest him.

00:43:13.000 Yeah, because he admitted today that he leaked some stuff.

00:43:16.000 Yeah, but he leaked stuff that was unclassified.

00:43:18.000 He just leaked his memos.

00:43:20.000 They weren't classified.

00:43:21.000 And people were freaking out about it.

00:43:23.000 No, he did it because it was real simple.

00:43:26.000 He didn't want to be the one who was making the statement.

00:43:28.000 And the way he described that, he had a funny description.

00:43:31.000 He said it would be like feeding seagulls at the beach.

00:43:33.000 They would just follow him around and look for more.

00:43:36.000 And he was like, I just wanted to get the information out there.

00:43:39.000 So I had someone put it out there.

00:43:42.000 But he was honest about it.

00:43:44.000 And, you know, it lets you understand that that's how these people do business.

00:43:47.000 And this is one of the ways that information does get beat.

00:43:50.000 Yeah, I think it's just...

00:43:51.000 I think a lot of it is guys like...

00:43:53.000 What was that movie, All the Presidents Men?

00:43:54.000 I think it's a lot of guys who think that if they get the scoop, they're going to have a hit book.

00:44:00.000 Like, you know, Brad Pitt's going to play them in a fucking movie if they get this fucking scoop.

00:44:05.000 Well, there's also that, but then there's just...

00:44:08.000 If you're an investigative journalist and you're covering the President of the United States in this unprecedented event where a reality star has become the fucking president, and he's a liar, and he just keeps lying about shit and getting caught lying about shit, and there's a bunch of people that don't care that he's a liar.

00:44:21.000 They're like, everybody lies, and they just jump on in with it, and you don't expect a higher standard of behavior from the number one most influential person in the free world.

00:44:30.000 You know, he's still tweeting about, like, people that suck and people who get terrible ratings.

00:44:36.000 That's the crazy shit.

00:44:39.000 I mean, I'll never forget it.

00:44:40.000 I remember watching the Republican, one of the Republican debates, and he talked about how fat Rosie O'Donnell was.

00:44:47.000 I was like, can we do all the debates like this?

00:44:49.000 I fucking love this.

00:44:50.000 You know, like a roast debate.

00:44:51.000 Like, how the fuck, even Rosie O'Donnell's gotta be sitting there like, why are they talking about my weight?

00:44:56.000 Well, Rosie O'Donnell has decided to dedicate most of her Twitter feed to shitting on Trump now.

00:45:00.000 She's losing her marbles, man.

00:45:02.000 What about Kathy Griffin, too?

00:45:04.000 That was fucking insane.

00:45:05.000 What did you think about that?

00:45:07.000 When you saw Kathy Griffin holding up that fake head of Donald Trump covered in blood, what did you think?

00:45:13.000 Well, all I think is how fucking badly do you need fucking attention?

00:45:18.000 Yeah.

00:45:18.000 You know, it was like...

00:45:19.000 I mean...

00:45:20.000 Exactly.

00:45:20.000 What did you think best case scenario was?

00:45:23.000 Right.

00:45:23.000 I think if your viewpoint is...

00:45:28.000 Like, you want the president's head, I mean, just to twist it, imagine Ted Nugent holding up Obama's head, like, it's over, dude.

00:45:36.000 Well, Ted Nugent did, at one point in time, say he wanted Obama to suck on his machine gun.

00:45:41.000 He did say that.

00:45:42.000 Words are less powerful than that image, I guess.

00:45:45.000 I heard a picture's worth a thousand words.

00:45:47.000 That's what they're saying now?

00:45:48.000 That's what they're saying.

00:45:49.000 Oh, shit.

00:45:50.000 Well, I didn't know it was gotten that big.

00:45:52.000 Yeah, maybe more than a thousand if it's a picture of Trump's head.

00:45:55.000 What was it for?

00:45:56.000 I never found out.

00:45:57.000 She's just doing it to get attention.

00:45:59.000 That's what it was for.

00:45:59.000 She's just dicking around the house and just like, I'm going to hold up.

00:46:01.000 She had a photographer come over and the photographer set up the thing and, you know, they covered this mask with blood and she held it up like she was ISIS. I mean, this is not...

00:46:12.000 You're not talking about, like, guillotines in medieval France.

00:46:16.000 I mean, that's just a sign of a fucking idiot.

00:46:18.000 You know, it's like...

00:46:21.000 If that's your viewpoint, you've got to be smart enough to know that that's only going to hurt where you're coming from.

00:46:27.000 Well, not only that, she did this press conference and painted herself out to be a victim.

00:46:31.000 She was saying he's a bully and he's trying to ruin her career.

00:46:34.000 And then she was celebrating the kind of comedy she does.

00:46:38.000 She was like, you know, I've always pushed the boundaries.

00:46:42.000 My comedy is not for everybody.

00:46:44.000 She was like...

00:46:46.000 Like, relishing the moment to express how she feels about her comedy or to sort of describe her comedy.

00:46:54.000 And it's not a free speech thing.

00:46:55.000 I mean, no one's saying she didn't have the right to do it.

00:46:58.000 We're just all saying it's fucking lame.

00:47:01.000 It's an attention thing.

00:47:02.000 It's purely an attention thing to the point where there's no entertainment value to it.

00:47:09.000 It's one thing if you have some ridiculous idea in your head that is funny or is entertaining.

00:47:16.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:47:17.000 What was the best case scenario?

00:47:18.000 There was nothing, no thought.

00:47:20.000 It was just like, let's do this.

00:47:21.000 People are going to see it.

00:47:22.000 Well, the only funny part for me was that, you know that guy, Mike, who does all the Photoshopping for Joey Diaz?

00:47:28.000 I don't know if you know him, but he's been helping me with some Photoshop.

00:47:31.000 And the second I saw that picture, I go, do me a favor.

00:47:33.000 Put my head on Kathy Griffin's head and change Trump to Sam Hunt.

00:47:39.000 And the dude fucking did it in five minutes, and it looks pretty good.

00:47:41.000 And I put it up.

00:47:43.000 So then I loved how some of the people thought I was like, I actually wanted to...

00:47:46.000 I was like, no, no, it's a comment on the fucking Kathy Griffin thing.

00:47:48.000 I didn't hear about the Kathy Griffin thing until I saw her apology.

00:47:52.000 That's how I found out about it.

00:47:53.000 I found out about it through her apology on Instagram.

00:47:55.000 And so I was clicking on this video and it was her apology and she looked like hell.

00:48:01.000 She looked like she hadn't slept and she was freaking out.

00:48:03.000 As opposed to when she looked awesome?

00:48:04.000 As opposed to when she looks hot as fuck.

00:48:06.000 Yeah.

00:48:09.000 That's good Photoshop right there.

00:48:10.000 It's perfect.

00:48:12.000 Your head sits perfectly on her neck.

00:48:14.000 It's weird.

00:48:15.000 Yeah, I mean, hair's perfect.

00:48:16.000 My beard and her beard look exactly the same.

00:48:19.000 I don't think she has a beard, dude.

00:48:20.000 Okay.

00:48:21.000 But, um...

00:48:23.000 I saw the apology and I was like, what did she do?

00:48:27.000 She was like, I went too far.

00:48:28.000 I went too far.

00:48:29.000 I'm sorry.

00:48:30.000 I've seen the comments.

00:48:31.000 I went too far.

00:48:32.000 I apologize.

00:48:33.000 I'm a comedian and sometimes we go too far.

00:48:36.000 I was like, what the fuck did she do?

00:48:38.000 And then I went and saw what she did and I was like, oof.

00:48:42.000 Like, God.

00:48:43.000 I'm trying to think, have you heard anybody...

00:48:47.000 Even in the comedy?

00:48:48.000 Have you heard anybody defending her?

00:48:50.000 Yes.

00:48:50.000 Who?

00:48:51.000 You have to say their name.

00:48:52.000 I don't remember their names, but it was a defense of the intent behind it, which I agree with.

00:48:59.000 The intent behind it, meaning what she was trying to do is be funny.

00:49:02.000 She was trying to get some attention.

00:49:05.000 It's like a joke that you do that falls short.

00:49:07.000 Like, here's a perfect example.

00:49:09.000 Bill Maher's joke.

00:49:10.000 Did you hear what he said?

00:49:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:11.000 Yeah.

00:49:12.000 So if you people haven't heard, the senator from Nebraska, was it a senator?

00:49:17.000 Goddamn this fucking voice of mine.

00:49:20.000 The senator from Nebraska, I believe, said you should come visit.

00:49:24.000 We can have you work in the fields.

00:49:26.000 And Bill threw his hands up and go, not me.

00:49:29.000 I'm a house nigger.

00:49:30.000 That's what he said.

00:49:31.000 And everybody was like, what the fuck?

00:49:33.000 Like, what makes you think you can say that?

00:49:36.000 And when he did, HBO released a statement, they were pissed off, and there was a fire, Bill Maher, Twitter hashtag thing going on.

00:49:47.000 That one don't you think to me is a little more, at least I understand the intent of his joke.

00:49:51.000 Yeah, he was trying to be naughty.

00:49:53.000 Yeah.

00:49:53.000 He made a mistake.

00:49:54.000 Look, here's the thing.

00:49:56.000 He's working on a show, okay?

00:49:58.000 He's working on a very important show for HBO that is a very high profile show.

00:50:04.000 There's an extreme amount of pressure, extreme amount of demands.

00:50:07.000 There's a lot going on behind the scenes.

00:50:09.000 He's probably working very hard.

00:50:10.000 He's probably tired and he's in the middle of this interview And he's trying to make something entertaining.

00:50:16.000 The guy gives him an opportunity, right?

00:50:18.000 The guy says, you could work in the fields.

00:50:20.000 And he's thinking, work in the fields?

00:50:21.000 Where are the fields?

00:50:22.000 Oh, no.

00:50:23.000 Who works in the fields?

00:50:24.000 Slaves work in the fields.

00:50:25.000 Who's the guy that's in the house?

00:50:27.000 Okay, I'm going to say this.

00:50:28.000 And he just goes with it to try to be shocking because he tries to be that naughty, edgy guy.

00:50:34.000 And it just was lame.

00:50:37.000 And it wasn't funny.

00:50:39.000 Yeah, I get more pissed when I see his shows.

00:50:42.000 It seems like when he makes a joke, he gets mad when they don't fucking laugh.

00:50:47.000 That's the part that bothers me.

00:50:48.000 He's a silly boy.

00:50:49.000 But when he made a joke and it was lame...

00:50:54.000 He was just trying to be funny.

00:50:55.000 He was trying to entertain people.

00:50:56.000 It's important to him.

00:50:57.000 His show is important to him.

00:50:59.000 It's a very good show.

00:51:00.000 He works hard at it.

00:51:01.000 And most of the jokes are really funny.

00:51:03.000 And there's a lot of edgy, controversial jokes on Bill Maher's show that are really funny.

00:51:09.000 And that's the line he pushes.

00:51:11.000 And sometimes you cross that line.

00:51:12.000 And he crossed that line.

00:51:14.000 Is he racist?

00:51:15.000 Fuck no.

00:51:16.000 Is he a bad guy?

00:51:17.000 No.

00:51:18.000 Is he an idiot?

00:51:19.000 No.

00:51:19.000 He made a fucking mistake.

00:51:20.000 He's a human being.

00:51:21.000 It wasn't like the N-word slipped out talking derogatory.

00:51:24.000 He was trying to make a point about slavery.

00:51:28.000 He was just trying to be silly.

00:51:29.000 He was trying to be funny.

00:51:30.000 He's not like being...

00:51:31.000 Remember when Dog the Bounty Hunter got caught?

00:51:33.000 Dropping a bunch of N-bombs by people?

00:51:36.000 There's a way...

00:51:37.000 Look, there's no words that are forbidden.

00:51:39.000 And the idea that that word exists in...

00:51:44.000 Countless rap songs, but you can't sing along to those rap songs?

00:51:48.000 Are you a racist?

00:51:50.000 And yet I'm fucking banned from Walmart.

00:51:50.000 It's ridiculous.

00:51:51.000 I think those rap songs are banned from Walmart, too, though.

00:51:53.000 You know what I found out recently, which is those...

00:51:57.000 There's Walmart versions of all those albums.

00:52:00.000 I didn't know that.

00:52:00.000 Oh, where they take out the cuss words?

00:52:03.000 Yes.

00:52:03.000 You know how I know that?

00:52:05.000 I fucking ordered on iTunes once a copy of one of the dead...

00:52:10.000 Not dead presidents.

00:52:12.000 Who the fuck was it?

00:52:14.000 It was one of those hardcore rap bands.

00:52:17.000 And as I was listening to it, it was all this like...

00:52:20.000 Backwards shit, yeah.

00:52:21.000 No, like bleeped out or like empty spots where there was the...

00:52:26.000 I downloaded an Eminem album and I heard all these backwards sounds.

00:52:31.000 I thought it was like any of those old Sgt. Pepper shit.

00:52:33.000 I guess they took all the bad words and just played them backwards.

00:52:36.000 Even worse, I listened to one from Gangstar, and they had alternative words.

00:52:41.000 Alternative words?

00:52:42.000 And I was like, oh no.

00:52:44.000 You can't have alternate words for Gangstar.

00:52:45.000 My thing is, why don't the hip-hop guys, why don't just all those Jay-Z or some big guy go, fuck this, we ain't doing this anymore.

00:52:51.000 I think they're not doing it anymore, but the reason why they do it is for money.

00:52:54.000 There's so much money out there.

00:52:55.000 I mean, if they can get their shit played on radio and get the more...

00:52:58.000 It's all about exposure.

00:53:00.000 I mean, you know, it's all about the most amount of people that you can reach with your stuff.

00:53:03.000 Yeah, well, they asked me to do a clean version.

00:53:05.000 I said no.

00:53:06.000 Good for you.

00:53:07.000 But my morals definitely is going to cost me a lot of fucking cash.

00:53:13.000 Nah.

00:53:14.000 I think so.

00:53:31.000 F-U-B. You broke my heart.

00:53:34.000 Screw you, girl, or whatever it is.

00:53:37.000 Well, remember when CeeLo Green had that?

00:53:39.000 Forget You?

00:53:41.000 No, no, no, no.

00:53:43.000 It's not Forget You, it's Fuck You.

00:53:45.000 What's the song?

00:53:46.000 Again, why can't you say Fuck You on the radio?

00:53:48.000 I mean, I know why, but...

00:53:50.000 Yeah, it's stupid.

00:53:51.000 Because a long time ago, people were dumb.

00:53:55.000 And they thought that the sun was 17 miles away, and they thought there was an old man living in the clouds that had friends that used harps, and that you had to be careful with the words you used.

00:54:04.000 They really are clinging on to...

00:54:05.000 I mean, the same thing in, like, you know, TV and, like, radio.

00:54:09.000 They're still, like...

00:54:11.000 Like...

00:54:12.000 Dude, it's like, there's YouTube.

00:54:15.000 We premiered another video from this record again.

00:54:18.000 We did the Pornhub premiere, you know?

00:54:20.000 Like, fuck this.

00:54:21.000 Let's reach the people.

00:54:23.000 Yeah, you premiered on Pornhub, which is hilarious.

00:54:26.000 How did that come about?

00:54:28.000 What happened was my people were just kind of like, you know...

00:54:33.000 Let's find a place to premiere.

00:54:34.000 They always do this thing where you can premiere a video on, I don't know, what would be an example, like AV Club or some shit, and we're Rolling Stone or something.

00:54:42.000 I go, give me those numbers.

00:54:43.000 It's like so-and-so gets 50,000.

00:54:44.000 I go, what about, look up Pornhub's numbers.

00:54:47.000 It was like 200-something million.

00:54:49.000 I think Rolling Stone was something like the 8,000th or something biggest website.

00:54:55.000 And I go, check out what Pornhub is.

00:54:57.000 And Pornhub is like number 19 in the world.

00:54:59.000 And I go, let's just reach out to them and see if they'll be the first guy to premiere a country music video on Pornhub.

00:55:05.000 The problem is when people go to Pornhub, they're sweaty and nervous and they're just thinking about beating off.

00:55:11.000 So you get in the wrong mindset.

00:55:13.000 Well, I think after you beat off, you're ready to fucking chill out and listen to some good country music.

00:55:17.000 Yeah, but you're also ready to hide what website you were watching.

00:55:21.000 I don't know, but I'll tell you what.

00:55:21.000 You're going through your browser and erasing your history.

00:55:23.000 It fucking worked, man.

00:55:25.000 I mean, I saw a lot of people, you know, like, I don't know how many people I could tell you that came up to me like I first heard about you, because they don't want to admit it, you know.

00:55:33.000 Right.

00:55:34.000 But the numbers show that people fucking...

00:55:36.000 It was crazy, because we premiered it on Pornhub, and they're like...

00:55:40.000 It was almost like, you know, if you guys do this for me...

00:55:43.000 I'll show that, you know, it works.

00:55:46.000 You can sell things besides fucking boner pills, you know?

00:55:48.000 Right.

00:55:49.000 Well, it's also, it's one of the things that if you did it, just knowing that you did it, people would go there to check it out.

00:55:55.000 Like, he's premiered his shit on Pornhub.

00:55:57.000 Ah!

00:55:58.000 Exactly, yeah.

00:55:58.000 People would go there to check it out.

00:55:59.000 And it's funny, because we put it up at like, you know, noon or something.

00:56:03.000 I was like, I thought it was like hundreds of millions.

00:56:06.000 The views aren't that high.

00:56:07.000 And someone there was like, wait till five o'clock.

00:56:09.000 When people get off work and start beating off?

00:56:11.000 Yeah, I was like, at five o'clock the numbers fucking just shot through the roof.

00:56:15.000 It's like once that fucking work bell rang, it's like they were fucking...

00:56:19.000 Yeah, people get in trouble for beating off at work, right?

00:56:21.000 You can get fired.

00:56:23.000 Yeah, it's a bummer.

00:56:23.000 I wish there was like a section...

00:56:25.000 A place.

00:56:25.000 There's no country music section of Pornhub, you know.

00:56:28.000 You think there would be?

00:56:29.000 There would just be the Wheeler-Walker section.

00:56:31.000 Yeah, right now, I gotta figure out how to, because I set up my own channel to, um, to premiere that video, and I gotta figure out how to turn it off.

00:56:40.000 I get alerts on my phone every fucking two minutes, so-and-so clicked like on your Pornhub video, or so-and-so, like, from, like, left a comment on your Pornhub videos, like, I gotta get that shit off.

00:56:53.000 It's all day.

00:56:53.000 It's like I wake up in the middle of the night to like a buzz.

00:56:55.000 Your phone's just getting...

00:56:56.000 I look at it and it's like, you know, Trump Jizz 44 digs your new song.

00:57:04.000 Did you ever look at some of the comments on porn website videos when they start rating videos and describing?

00:57:10.000 That's how I know what to fucking watch.

00:57:12.000 Yeah, well, the star system is pretty good.

00:57:14.000 But when you get to the actual words, you start feeling real uncomfortable.

00:57:19.000 What were you expecting?

00:57:21.000 Yeah.

00:57:21.000 I didn't like how she winced when it went in her ass.

00:57:24.000 Huh?

00:57:25.000 Jesus.

00:57:26.000 Yeah, like, sometimes you'll go on there and you'll see the first thing.

00:57:29.000 He's just like, don't watch this one.

00:57:31.000 Fucking finish.

00:57:32.000 He finishes Insider.

00:57:33.000 You can't see shit.

00:57:34.000 Yeah.

00:57:35.000 Thanks for the heads up.

00:57:35.000 Jesus Christ.

00:57:37.000 People get mad.

00:57:37.000 They think it's fake.

00:57:38.000 It's fake coming.

00:57:40.000 Like, what?

00:57:42.000 It's weird.

00:57:42.000 Yeah, I believe in fake news.

00:57:44.000 I don't believe in fake cum.

00:57:45.000 There's definitely fake cum.

00:57:46.000 I've seen it.

00:57:47.000 I've seen fake dicks.

00:57:49.000 Actually, I've seen one.

00:57:50.000 He always had sex with his pants on because he's got a big fake rubber dick.

00:57:54.000 And it has a button in it where he could jizz.

00:57:59.000 And he presses the button and it comes out, it looks like, what's that Cetaphil, that face lotion that people use?

00:58:07.000 What's that?

00:58:07.000 No, no, no, that's for zits.

00:58:10.000 Cetaphil.

00:58:11.000 It's like that face soap.

00:58:13.000 It's kind of like jizz looking.

00:58:15.000 I saw one of those too and then right before he jizzed it was like a hard cut.

00:58:18.000 You could tell that they filled up the fake dick machine.

00:58:22.000 Yeah, they had to pump it up.

00:58:24.000 Get it to the...

00:58:26.000 I wish I could sit here and honestly say I didn't jack off to that one.

00:58:29.000 Wow.

00:58:31.000 Now, do you think you're going to have more songs that come out on Pornhub, or is that a one-time thing?

00:58:38.000 What about you, Jizz?

00:58:40.000 You ever thought about going to one of the other competitors' websites?

00:58:43.000 They might offer you a better deal.

00:58:44.000 Some company called Perv City gave me a free membership.

00:58:47.000 Perv City?

00:58:48.000 Yeah, I'd never even heard of them.

00:58:49.000 They're looking to get through your webcam.

00:58:51.000 That's what they're looking to do.

00:58:52.000 I think they were looking for me to mention it on your show, and I just fell for it.

00:58:55.000 Oh, you did it.

00:58:55.000 Fuck.

00:58:56.000 I didn't mean to.

00:58:57.000 Sorry.

00:58:57.000 God damn it.

00:58:59.000 But they got their money's worth, I guess.

00:59:01.000 But yeah, if I could do only porn, I mean, CMT ain't gonna fucking play it, so...

00:59:05.000 Now, they won't even play one of your clean songs.

00:59:08.000 How many clean songs do you have?

00:59:10.000 Like, with no swearing?

00:59:11.000 Zero.

00:59:13.000 I'm rounding off there, but yeah.

00:59:16.000 Would you...

00:59:17.000 You know what's weird, too?

00:59:19.000 I got one of my new tunes.

00:59:22.000 It's definitely an American thing, because I just...

00:59:25.000 The CMT of Australia, whatever it is, one of my new songs from the new record is in heavy rotation there.

00:59:33.000 And it's thinking about, you know, a stretched out pussy and shit in it.

00:59:36.000 Whoa.

00:59:37.000 And they play it in regular rotation.

00:59:38.000 I guess they're just...

00:59:39.000 Australia, they don't give a fuck?

00:59:40.000 They don't give a fuck in Australia.

00:59:42.000 They're savages.

00:59:43.000 Those people, they're descendants of prisoners.

00:59:46.000 And they're just freer over there.

00:59:48.000 And they got...

00:59:49.000 I didn't even send them the video.

00:59:50.000 I think they took it off YouTube and just put it on fucking TV. No, they're pretty badass in Australia.

00:59:55.000 Legalized prostitution.

00:59:57.000 Really?

00:59:57.000 Oh, yeah.

00:59:58.000 They want me to come over and do some shows, and I'm like, that's a long fucking trip.

01:00:02.000 It's a long trip, but you would sell out over there.

01:00:04.000 But here's the thing.

01:00:05.000 Weed's illegal there.

01:00:07.000 Really?

01:00:07.000 It's so backwards with that.

01:00:08.000 You can sing about a stretched out pussy on TV and weed's illegal.

01:00:11.000 Crazy.

01:00:13.000 Legalized prostitution, no weed.

01:00:15.000 How soon do you think...

01:00:17.000 Because I keep looking at the...

01:00:18.000 I think weed's going to change big.

01:00:20.000 Kentucky, you know, my home state, is the place where I think it'll be the most...

01:00:24.000 Because I know a lot of tobacco farmers...

01:00:26.000 Friends of mine whose families are in the tobacco farm business, which is like...

01:00:30.000 Tough business.

01:00:31.000 They need that shit right now.

01:00:32.000 Yeah.

01:00:33.000 They could get their business back, and I don't know why it's not legal there yet.

01:00:37.000 It's renewable.

01:00:37.000 It's very easy.

01:00:39.000 It doesn't require much in terms of resources.

01:00:42.000 It's less pervious.

01:00:44.000 And I'm seeing the tide change.

01:00:46.000 Every time I go home, you see more and more...

01:00:49.000 Legalize, you know, from like more and more businessmen and shit in town, you know?

01:00:52.000 Yeah.

01:00:53.000 Because it would really help the economy.

01:00:55.000 Well, it's also people realize it's stupid.

01:00:57.000 It's stupid just like making whiskey illegal stupid.

01:01:00.000 It was dumb.

01:01:01.000 They figured that out in the 1920s.

01:01:03.000 And the fact that here we are in 2017 and they haven't completely embraced it.

01:01:07.000 That's one of the things that pissed me off about this Jeff Sessions guy.

01:01:10.000 Like, what a giant step backwards that asshole is.

01:01:13.000 Coming back with wanting to bring back Just Say No.

01:01:16.000 Yeah.

01:01:16.000 Saying that marijuana users aren't good people.

01:01:19.000 It was basically...

01:01:19.000 What's that crazy movie?

01:01:21.000 It was basically...

01:01:21.000 Idiocracy.

01:01:22.000 No, what's the crazy weed movie from the...

01:01:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:01:25.000 Reefer Madness.

01:01:26.000 Reefer Madness.

01:01:26.000 He was acting like that.

01:01:28.000 He's just a guy who doesn't smoke pot and probably never has and doesn't even know what it does.

01:01:32.000 His idea of it is like people doing meth or sniffing glue or something.

01:01:36.000 He doesn't know what he's talking about.

01:01:37.000 Yeah, it's fucking...

01:01:38.000 It pisses me off, too.

01:01:40.000 It's just like...

01:01:41.000 Well, it's also, there's a lot of money involved.

01:01:43.000 I mean, these guys are all whores.

01:01:44.000 You gotta pay attention to, like, who's buttering their bread.

01:01:47.000 And there's a lot of people that have a very strict agenda.

01:01:50.000 And if you go out there and start talking about, look, that's one of the things that pissed me off about Hillary Clinton more than anything.

01:01:55.000 She gave some sort of a speech, and in that speech she said that she was absolutely, in every sense of the word, against marijuana legalization.

01:02:03.000 Well, fuck you, old lady.

01:02:05.000 Well, she also said she was against...

01:02:07.000 she wanted flag burning to be illegal, right?

01:02:10.000 She was also against gay marriage until 2013. A lot of people forget things about her.

01:02:16.000 They just think when you just say the word Democrat that you believe in all these things.

01:02:21.000 They're strategic.

01:02:22.000 Their opinions aren't real.

01:02:24.000 Their opinions are their strategic sort of conglomeration of ideas that they think are going to serve them well when they go out in public.

01:02:32.000 That's what their opinions are.

01:02:33.000 And they forget that it's 2017 and everything.

01:02:35.000 There's a record of fucking everything.

01:02:36.000 I mean, I was getting pissed because there were a couple of weed companies who wanted to sponsor some of my tour, but it's too complicated right now because on different states, I could get arrested in certain states just for advertising it, which is crazy.

01:02:50.000 So I couldn't put it on a tour bus or anything, so there's no way to really do it right now.

01:02:53.000 Yeah, and you also become a target in the states where it's very illegal.

01:02:57.000 Where cops have been arresting people for a long time.

01:03:00.000 You've got them trained to arrest people.

01:03:01.000 Then all of a sudden you tell them they can't.

01:03:03.000 And they're like, what?

01:03:04.000 Well, it's legal now.

01:03:06.000 Like, what?

01:03:07.000 Fuck that.

01:03:08.000 Like, there's guys that still want to arrest people.

01:03:10.000 Out here?

01:03:10.000 Out here.

01:03:11.000 I mean, there's still arrests that are taking place in other states.

01:03:15.000 But it's so fucking...

01:03:16.000 D.C., for instance.

01:03:18.000 Washington, D.C., marijuana's legal.

01:03:20.000 People are still getting arrested for it.

01:03:22.000 They don't spread that around because I didn't even know that.

01:03:24.000 Black people.

01:03:25.000 It's not white people getting arrested for it.

01:03:27.000 It's black people.

01:03:28.000 Black Twitter.

01:03:29.000 Yeah, well, they, you know, it's a reason that they can arrest you.

01:03:33.000 They can find a reason to arrest you.

01:03:35.000 And, look, there's a lot of gross shit that goes along with law enforcement.

01:03:40.000 But one of the grossest ones is that these fucking people have requirements for how many people they're supposed to arrest.

01:03:46.000 They have quotas they're supposed to be making.

01:03:48.000 How many people they pull over.

01:03:50.000 How many tickets they write.

01:03:51.000 You know, it's been exposed.

01:03:53.000 It's the wrong guy at the wrong time, yeah.

01:03:54.000 Yeah, you're the wrong guy at the wrong time, or, you know, the cop just decides he's gonna arrest you for it because it's federally illegal and he just makes a call.

01:04:03.000 I don't know.

01:04:04.000 It's not good.

01:04:05.000 Yeah, I mean, if it's fucked up that you could, you know, I could have a tour bus with, like, you know, You know, bourbon on the side and go across the country and back, and that's fine, but which you can advertise on the fucking road where it can kill people.

01:04:18.000 Yeah, my friend Ron White, he runs around in a giant truck that has his number one tequila on it.

01:04:25.000 He's got a huge bus, a huge-ass tour bus, which says number one tequila on the side.

01:04:30.000 They probably pay for the bus, yeah.

01:04:32.000 They probably pay him good money, and I was all psyched about it.

01:04:34.000 It's his company.

01:04:35.000 Okay, yeah.

01:04:35.000 I was fucking excited about some fucking marijuana money.

01:04:38.000 Like, help me out.

01:04:39.000 Get a nice bus.

01:04:40.000 Yeah, people have asked me to partner up with them or to get involved, and I'm like, it ain't the time yet.

01:04:46.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:04:47.000 You'd be target number one.

01:04:49.000 It's just not...

01:04:50.000 It's worth it financially, but it's not worth it in terms of, like, the mental mortgage that you have to pay to be involved with something that's semi-legal.

01:04:58.000 I've always wondered about that, like...

01:05:00.000 I always wonder, like, you know, like Snoop Dogg's on tour.

01:05:02.000 If you see Snoop Dogg's bus, why wouldn't the cop...

01:05:04.000 They do?

01:05:05.000 They do all the time.

01:05:06.000 Oh, he's been pulled over before.

01:05:07.000 He's been arrested before.

01:05:08.000 Yeah, it's weird to just be that adamant about it, you know.

01:05:11.000 Dude, they went after Willie Nelson!

01:05:13.000 Yeah, you don't go after fucking Willie Nelson.

01:05:15.000 Here's the thing, though.

01:05:16.000 Like, if you're a stoner, an unknown stoner, all you have to do is just know somebody in a town.

01:05:22.000 Like, you don't have to travel with it.

01:05:23.000 Like, traveling with it is stupid.

01:05:25.000 Like, people that get busted with weed, like, don't you know there's weed where you're going?

01:05:29.000 Yeah, I don't think I've gotten off stage once and there hasn't been a joint ready for me for some dude I've never even met.

01:05:34.000 Yeah, there's always something.

01:05:35.000 But the thing is, do you smoke that weed?

01:05:39.000 I usually do, but...

01:05:41.000 I would say don't do it.

01:05:42.000 Every once in a while I'll smoke it and later that night I'm like, something don't feel right.

01:05:46.000 Be careful.

01:05:48.000 People are going hardcore.

01:05:50.000 People are going hardcore.

01:05:52.000 Some dude was telling me about this spray that he invented that's an acid spray.

01:05:57.000 It's LSD in spray form.

01:06:00.000 And he goes, just as many pumps as you take off of this spray is how deep you go into Alice's rabbit hole.

01:06:08.000 I was like, what?

01:06:09.000 Jesus Christ.

01:06:10.000 Did you see that?

01:06:11.000 There's a new documentary out there.

01:06:12.000 I got scared just talking to him.

01:06:14.000 There's a documentary out that's pretty good.

01:06:16.000 I'm not a big Grateful Dead fan, but there's a documentary out now about them that was pretty crazy watching them in the old fucking days.

01:06:22.000 I lack the Grateful Dead gene.

01:06:24.000 I'm with you.

01:06:25.000 I don't get it.

01:06:26.000 I watched this to try to get into it, but the acid tests they were doing back then were fucking crazy.

01:06:31.000 They would dose the fucking record company dudes.

01:06:34.000 Yeah.

01:06:35.000 Well, people just dosed people back then, which is one of the things I think we're seeing.

01:06:39.000 That's a dick move.

01:06:39.000 Well, I think it's one of the things we're seeing with this Bill Cosby thing.

01:06:42.000 I think people had a different opinion about dosing people.

01:06:45.000 I think Bill Cosby was amongst a group of many people that were dosing people back then.

01:06:51.000 I think it was super common.

01:06:53.000 Oh, you think it was a common thing?

01:06:53.000 I think it was super common, because they joked around about it.

01:06:57.000 You know, Bill Cosby had a whole routine about giving people Spanish fly.

01:07:02.000 And he's joked around about dosing people.

01:07:06.000 What was the TV show he did?

01:07:07.000 He did a routine on someone's late night talk show.

01:07:09.000 Oh, I saw that.

01:07:10.000 It was Larry King.

01:07:11.000 Dude, it's dark.

01:07:12.000 And he talks about Spanish flying, and him and Larry King started laughing, as I would have, because I would have thought he was dicking around.

01:07:17.000 Right, you would have thought he was joking around.

01:07:19.000 And then when you find out...

01:07:20.000 I just think all those old dudes that used to go to the Playboy Mansion and hook up and...

01:07:25.000 You know, meet all these young ladies, and we're very happy to see them, and I think they were dozing people in the 60s and the 70s.

01:07:31.000 I actually say that to girls when I take them out, and if I go to the bar and get a drink, and I'll come back with two drinks, it's like, do you usually do this?

01:07:37.000 Because I'm cool, but like, how do you know, you know?

01:07:40.000 Right, how do you know?

01:07:41.000 Oh yeah, if I was a girl?

01:07:43.000 You know, you shouldn't be drinking this, you know?

01:07:45.000 Yeah.

01:07:45.000 Well, I won't take a drink if I don't know who it is and someone just hands it to me out of nowhere.

01:07:50.000 Yeah, that happens a lot too.

01:07:51.000 They'll put shots on the stage.

01:07:53.000 Yeah.

01:07:54.000 Fuck that.

01:07:54.000 And then they'll call me a pussy for not drinking.

01:07:56.000 Like, I ain't drinking.

01:07:56.000 I don't know you.

01:07:58.000 I know people.

01:07:59.000 I know people personally that have been drugged.

01:08:02.000 I know several people that have been drugged.

01:08:05.000 It's not uncommon at all.

01:08:08.000 Hunt for tattooed woman who drugged and robbed two wealthy men of $200,000 worth of cash and watches after targeting them at exclusive Hollywood nightclub.

01:08:17.000 Wow.

01:08:18.000 The woman, 20, met two men at a Hollywood nightclub on March 5th.

01:08:22.000 She went with them to an apartment in Studio City, made them drinks.

01:08:25.000 Men say they passed out, woke up hours later, but she had gone.

01:08:28.000 They claim $200,000 worth of watches, cash, jewelry, or awesome.

01:08:31.000 First of all, these guys are fucking assholes.

01:08:34.000 They have $200,000 worth of cash and watches, and they're living in an apartment in Studio City.

01:08:39.000 Shut up.

01:08:39.000 What you guys were doing, you were pimping on a budget, right?

01:08:42.000 I know what you're doing, and you just dragged in the wrong cat.

01:08:47.000 You fucked up.

01:08:49.000 You fucked up.

01:08:50.000 You got lucky.

01:08:50.000 You're lucky you're alive.

01:08:51.000 You're lucky you didn't wake up in a bathtub filled with ice with a big fucking incision mark where your liver used to be.

01:08:56.000 And you're lucky that you made it that fucking long.

01:08:58.000 Yeah.

01:08:58.000 It didn't happen the fucking first week you tried that shit.

01:09:00.000 Dumbasses.

01:09:01.000 You got tricked by a 20-year-old, you fucking rookies.

01:09:05.000 I might want to...

01:09:05.000 It's almost like...

01:09:06.000 It's almost like you almost want to, like...

01:09:09.000 I mean, it ain't cool, but, like, you totally see where she's coming from.

01:09:12.000 It's just like...

01:09:12.000 Yeah, fuck these assholes.

01:09:13.000 Fucking dopes, you know?

01:09:14.000 Well, they might have been shitheads, too.

01:09:15.000 They might have been, like, real gross to her, and she might have been like, I'm finna get paid.

01:09:19.000 Just rob these dummies.

01:09:22.000 That 200...

01:09:23.000 Yeah.

01:09:24.000 I mean, it didn't sound like it was too tough for her, either.

01:09:27.000 Some about drugging people, man.

01:09:29.000 Like, it's a very dark, dark thing to do, though, honestly.

01:09:33.000 All jokes aside.

01:09:34.000 It's pretty fucking evil, yeah.

01:09:35.000 You put something in their drink and watch it affect them.

01:09:38.000 Like a lab rat.

01:09:40.000 Like, you know, they don't even know what you did.

01:09:42.000 I know people that's happened to, like, maybe not even high school or even junior high, and they still aren't over it, you know?

01:09:47.000 Oh, yeah, for sure, man.

01:09:48.000 It could fuck you up for life.

01:09:49.000 Rape.

01:09:50.000 Yeah, you get raped.

01:09:51.000 But I'm saying even like, if you were like in ninth grade and someone dosed you, and you had like the worst fucking day of your fucking life...

01:10:01.000 Want to hear something crazy?

01:10:02.000 My uncle in Nashville was a med student back in the 50s, and the professor comes into class one day and goes, so here's the assignment for today.

01:10:15.000 There's this new thing that the government's testing out called lysergic acid.

01:10:18.000 We don't really know what it does.

01:10:19.000 So he goes, here's your assignment.

01:10:21.000 I'm going to split you up into groups of two.

01:10:23.000 One of you takes this, and the other one has to do a report on how he reacts to it.

01:10:29.000 You want some weed?

01:10:30.000 No, I'm good.

01:10:31.000 I got a show tonight, man.

01:10:34.000 You do your show sober?

01:10:36.000 I drink a little bit, but if I get stoned, I forget all the lyrics.

01:10:39.000 Really?

01:10:40.000 Because I forget who's fucking who and who's whacking who off.

01:10:41.000 You know, it's all specific.

01:10:44.000 It's very critical.

01:10:45.000 Yeah, it's like, I need to know that Rita's blowing this dude.

01:10:48.000 I get it.

01:10:48.000 It's all the names.

01:10:49.000 You don't have to explain to me.

01:10:52.000 You've been there.

01:10:53.000 But yeah, it actually led to the lawsuit about when you weren't allowed to...

01:11:01.000 You know, test drugs on students.

01:11:03.000 Oh, yeah.

01:11:04.000 Well, you know, they did that to the Unabomber.

01:11:09.000 The Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, was a part of the Harvard LSD experiments.

01:11:13.000 No way, I didn't know that.

01:11:14.000 Yeah.

01:11:15.000 Doing what?

01:11:16.000 Dosing him up.

01:11:18.000 They dozed the shit out of that dude.

01:11:19.000 Because didn't they originally think of some kind of truth serum, maybe?

01:11:21.000 They didn't know what it was.

01:11:23.000 So they were trying to figure out, well, Albert Hoffman figured it out, right?

01:11:26.000 He accidentally discovered it.

01:11:29.000 I think he was coming up with a drug to induce labor.

01:11:32.000 I think that was the original premise behind creating LSD. And he got some of it in his hands and then on his drive home through absorption through the skin, he was tripping his fucking balls off riding his bike.

01:11:46.000 That's the whole story behind the understanding of LSD as a psychoactive substance in human beings.

01:11:52.000 So they started doing all sorts of studies.

01:11:54.000 There's some videos from the...

01:11:56.000 I believe it was the British Army.

01:11:58.000 They dosed their soldiers up and they filmed them.

01:12:01.000 They're running around laughing and giggling and they can't do anything.

01:12:04.000 It's like a black and white footage from...

01:12:07.000 I want to say like the 50s.

01:12:08.000 Yeah, there was a lot of that crazy footage.

01:12:11.000 I don't think...

01:12:12.000 I mean, it's hard to say because it's obviously influenced a lot of great fucking music.

01:12:16.000 Oh, yeah.

01:12:16.000 Also, these guys were taking so much acid.

01:12:19.000 There was a part in the movie where the drummer for The Grateful Dead was telling the record company guy, he goes...

01:12:25.000 I always love these kind of drugged out hippie stories.

01:12:27.000 This guy goes, he goes, we want to take a microphone and we want to record the smog in LA. We want to go out to the desert where there's clean air and record clean air.

01:12:37.000 And put the two sounds together, that'll be a rhythm track.

01:12:41.000 That's a lot of acid, man.

01:12:43.000 And they want that to be the drum track and some guy at Warner Brothers Records in a suit is like, what the fuck are you talking about, man?

01:12:49.000 Yeah, it's that dead gene.

01:12:50.000 I don't have that gene.

01:12:51.000 I feel like if you could play the dead to a young fan of rap music that never heard the dead, like a young black dude, just sit him down and tell me what you think about this.

01:13:05.000 They'd be like, what the fuck is this?

01:13:07.000 That's how I feel.

01:13:09.000 I just don't get it.

01:13:11.000 It sounds to me like, again, like a bunch of drugged out hippies just noodling around.

01:13:15.000 But I think when you're on acid at the show, it's amazing.

01:13:18.000 I've heard people say that I was never a fan of the Grateful Dead until I saw them when I was on acid.

01:13:23.000 I'm more than willing to agree to that because there's some songs that I've heard when I was tripping that, like, you go, oh, now I understand.

01:13:32.000 I remember the first time I got stoned heard in Black Sabbath, I remember saying to my friend, like, are there people who listen to this without being stoned?

01:13:39.000 Like, what does it sound like?

01:13:40.000 What's the point of fucking Black Sabbath if you're not stoned?

01:13:43.000 Doesn't even make sense to me.

01:13:45.000 Yeah, but Black Sabbath, to me, I can still listen to, even not stoned.

01:13:48.000 They've got some great jams.

01:13:50.000 There's something about the sort of hippie nature of the Grateful Dead people, too.

01:13:55.000 I was always like, well, you're just running away from life.

01:13:57.000 Go get a job, you stinky fucks.

01:14:00.000 Fucking dirty hippies.

01:14:01.000 But then my own cousin became a deadhead for a while.

01:14:03.000 She's cool.

01:14:04.000 She traveled with the dead for years, and she was like one of those people that lived out of the back of a VW band.

01:14:09.000 They would go to a store and buy bacon and eggs and cook them up for the people that were in the concert, and then they would sell them and shit.

01:14:16.000 And that's how they got by.

01:14:17.000 They'd sell bracelets and shit.

01:14:19.000 Like, she lived like that for, man, I want to say it was more than a year.

01:14:22.000 She traveled around with the dead.

01:14:24.000 Yeah, I mean, it was kind of, because they had a big kind of country influence to what they did, according to this documentary.

01:14:28.000 I'm like, well, I don't fucking hear it.

01:14:31.000 You know, it's like, I love the idea that they were making kind of trippy kind of country, but it's like, that's not what I'm hearing in my ear.

01:14:37.000 Yeah, I get it.

01:14:39.000 I get it if you're into that music.

01:14:41.000 But I feel like it's like food.

01:14:43.000 You know, there's certain people that I just...

01:14:45.000 Like my friend Tom.

01:14:46.000 I have a friend, Natsugura.

01:14:48.000 Tommy Hershko.

01:14:48.000 Hey, Tommy.

01:14:49.000 Shout out.

01:14:49.000 Shout out to Tommy.

01:14:50.000 He's a buddy of mine that...

01:14:52.000 I've always been a fan of spicy food.

01:14:54.000 I can eat some fucking spicy food.

01:14:56.000 I go deep.

01:14:57.000 But not nearly as deep as this motherfucker.

01:15:00.000 There's some dudes that I think their taste buds are just wired different.

01:15:05.000 They can just take in a different level of spice than I can.

01:15:09.000 It must be affecting their body differently.

01:15:12.000 And I know for me, I have friends that don't like anything spicy at all.

01:15:15.000 I don't like spicy shit at all.

01:15:17.000 It just doesn't get to them.

01:15:18.000 To me, I love it, man.

01:15:20.000 I eat jalapenos pretty much every day of the week.

01:15:23.000 I put hot sauce on everything.

01:15:25.000 I'm putting a habanero sauce on everything.

01:15:28.000 But some people, it just doesn't work with them.

01:15:30.000 The only thing I can tell, I tried these shots of like super, it was like, there's some little shot you can take.

01:15:35.000 I thought I was coming down with something on the road once and they gave me this super, something like filled with vitamins and it had some kind of pepper in it that was supposed to help me.

01:15:43.000 Oh, okay.

01:15:44.000 Like cayenne?

01:15:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:15:45.000 And it hurt.

01:15:45.000 It hurt, but it fucking helped.

01:15:47.000 It definitely helped.

01:15:47.000 Yeah, I wonder what the real science is behind cayenne pepper, but they always like to add it to those wellness shots to make you feel like it's doing something.

01:15:54.000 Gives you a little woo, it opens up your snot.

01:15:57.000 I think it's the way they market it, too.

01:15:59.000 Yeah, I mean, you feel great right after you get the shot done because you're just kind of...

01:16:04.000 Like, can't believe you got it down.

01:16:06.000 There was this place that we went to that doesn't exist anymore that was in Encino.

01:16:09.000 It was called Chili My Soul.

01:16:11.000 And it was a chili place that had levels of chili, like, from mild all the way up to, like, I think, I forget what their system was.

01:16:18.000 It was an X system or a number system.

01:16:20.000 I think it was a number system.

01:16:21.000 And I think the top was, like, 10. And one day I tried an eight, and they would give you a sample, and it was like the size of those, you know those little paper cups that you get like at a hamburger joint that you're supposed to fill up with ketchup?

01:16:32.000 Like it was that small, a tiny little thimble full of, I was like, this is so little.

01:16:37.000 And they're like, just try it, just try it for a sample.

01:16:40.000 And I put that fucking tiny spoon in, like an ice cream spoon, like a sample spoon.

01:16:45.000 I put it on my tongue, and I just started sneezing and hiccuping out of control.

01:16:51.000 Snot was pouring down my nose.

01:16:53.000 I couldn't believe how fucking hot it was.

01:16:55.000 And that was just an eight.

01:16:56.000 I remember thinking, I had one of those, probably not that hot, but I remember thinking, like, I'm never going to recover.

01:17:01.000 Like, my mouth was burning.

01:17:02.000 And then I remember sitting on the toilet just like...

01:17:05.000 I was apologizing to my asshole for what I'd done to it.

01:17:08.000 It was just a fucking attack, man.

01:17:11.000 That's what I worry about, especially on the road.

01:17:14.000 I can see how, like, you know, like a big band can go, eat the wrong thing, get up there and fucking shit your pants.

01:17:19.000 Oh, for sure.

01:17:20.000 There's also something about really spicy food that makes your shit just want to get out of your body immediately.

01:17:24.000 Oh, no, yeah, it was like, if someone had been in that stall at that restaurant, in this particular case I'm talking about, I would have fucking tore through my fucking pants.

01:17:34.000 I was going to shit no matter what.

01:17:36.000 Would you shit in the sink or the garbage can?

01:17:39.000 Which way would you go?

01:17:41.000 Honestly, I think at that point, I would have just probably...

01:17:43.000 Just shit your pants?

01:17:44.000 No, I would have taken...

01:17:45.000 I probably wouldn't have wanted to ruin my pants.

01:17:46.000 I probably would have just pulled them down and just shit like on the fucking bathroom floor, I'll bet.

01:17:52.000 You think?

01:17:52.000 It's hard to know.

01:17:53.000 I mean...

01:17:54.000 What's the move, though?

01:17:55.000 If you want to be like...

01:17:56.000 I bet there would be a lot of arguments.

01:17:58.000 I probably would have gone to the urinal.

01:17:59.000 Really?

01:18:00.000 Shit in the urinal.

01:18:01.000 That's rough.

01:18:02.000 Someone's got to clean that.

01:18:03.000 Yeah, well...

01:18:04.000 Would you offer to clean it?

01:18:05.000 Fuck no, but I wouldn't...

01:18:07.000 I don't think I would have, you know...

01:18:10.000 It wouldn't have been too nice to do it on the fucking floor either.

01:18:12.000 Yeah, it's one of the rare things about going to a public place, like a restaurant or something like that.

01:18:16.000 You're not, you shit all over the place.

01:18:18.000 They don't go, hey man, you gotta clean that.

01:18:20.000 And you're like, no I don't.

01:18:22.000 It's funny, before I ever hit the road, I was talking to some other- Isn't that weird?

01:18:25.000 Yeah, some other musicians, they were just like, the main thing about the road is, and you maybe know, is like, find a good place to shit.

01:18:31.000 It's all about finding a good place to shit.

01:18:34.000 And I'm like, I put my heart and soul into these records.

01:18:36.000 Like, there's got to be more to it than that, you know?

01:18:38.000 You're dealing with support people.

01:18:38.000 They've already given up.

01:18:40.000 Those dudes, they're just giving up on their dreams.

01:18:41.000 They're just there to play drums on the road.

01:18:43.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:18:44.000 But they're just talking about how, like, you know, if you're in this town, there's this one restaurant that doesn't check you, make sure you're eating there.

01:18:51.000 What?

01:18:52.000 There's like a, you know, they're giving me the fucking toilet tour of America.

01:18:56.000 I'm like, you know, if that's my biggest problem, it'll be fine.

01:18:59.000 There's something about shitting in a bathroom in a gas station that's actually kind of satisfying.

01:19:04.000 It's like, yeah, it's disgusting, but you're not going to ruin it.

01:19:06.000 You take a terrible dump in that bathroom, you're just like, this is what I'm here for.

01:19:11.000 Or a park.

01:19:12.000 When you go to a park and they have those stainless steel toilets that don't even have a lid and you just sit down on it.

01:19:17.000 Oof.

01:19:18.000 And you've got to wipe all the piss off of it first before you sit down.

01:19:21.000 Yeah, those rest stop bathrooms are pretty nice.

01:19:25.000 I've messed some of those up myself.

01:19:27.000 Yeah, you can mess them up.

01:19:28.000 It's a weird thing that that's where dudes chose to go to get together when they were gay and in hiding, like throughout the 50s and the 60s and the 70s.

01:19:36.000 That was like the thing.

01:19:38.000 They would go to rest stops.

01:19:40.000 It was a hacky joke in the early days of stand-up comedy.

01:19:44.000 Sounds like I got a new song.

01:19:47.000 Yeah, guys meeting at rest stops.

01:19:49.000 I should sell my album at rest stops.

01:19:52.000 You probably sell some, for sure.

01:19:54.000 Truckers are one of the few people that definitely still have CD players.

01:19:57.000 Oh, yeah.

01:19:58.000 They probably have VHS still.

01:19:59.000 I definitely have a lot of trucker fans.

01:20:02.000 I meet people after the show that's like, you know, I drove fucking 36 hours or whatever.

01:20:07.000 Yeah, we do too.

01:20:08.000 Shout out to the truckers.

01:20:10.000 Yeah, there's a lot of people out there just...

01:20:11.000 I mean, if you're stuck in a truck for fucking 12 hours, you need some goddamn content.

01:20:15.000 Totally.

01:20:16.000 I mean, I don't know how you do without, like...

01:20:18.000 I think some of those guys don't know technology that well, but without having access to podcasts or fucking Spotify, that shit, how would you fucking survive?

01:20:25.000 Those guys, you'd be amazed.

01:20:26.000 I think truck drivers are more in tune with that kind of technology, like entertainment technology, that they can take in while they're driving, than anybody.

01:20:34.000 What is that, Jamie?

01:20:35.000 It's the luxury sleeper cab for a long-haul truck.

01:20:38.000 Oh wow, it's a goddamn apartment.

01:20:40.000 That's what I need to get.

01:20:41.000 That's that big?

01:20:42.000 Yeah.

01:20:43.000 That's like a camper.

01:20:44.000 Holy shit.

01:20:46.000 Well, that's cool for him, man.

01:20:48.000 So he just goes back there when he's done.

01:20:50.000 Oh, there's the thing.

01:20:52.000 He goes there, but he's got a coffee machine there and shit.

01:20:54.000 I can live in that.

01:20:55.000 Yeah, one of my buddies got one of those with a shower in it, too.

01:20:57.000 He's got a magazine thing.

01:20:58.000 But you know, it's still the rule.

01:20:59.000 You can't shit in it, no matter what.

01:21:01.000 Yeah, you're not supposed to shit in those things.

01:21:03.000 However nice it is.

01:21:04.000 Well, people do it, though.

01:21:05.000 They wreck those things.

01:21:06.000 Yeah.

01:21:07.000 Yeah, there's...

01:21:08.000 I mean, still, it's a sucky job for those poor bastards.

01:21:11.000 And they all get fucked up backs.

01:21:14.000 You're sitting in that chair all day.

01:21:17.000 Ergonomic chairs for driving a car.

01:21:19.000 That's what they need, right?

01:21:20.000 And hemorrhoids too, right?

01:21:21.000 How come no one's figured that out?

01:21:22.000 Hey, Ergo Depot, I got a fucking task for you.

01:21:26.000 How about you guys figure out replacement car seats?

01:21:30.000 Does that make sense?

01:21:31.000 Yeah, it does.

01:21:32.000 You could sit in this.

01:21:33.000 You could sit in this and drive in cars that keep you straight up.

01:21:36.000 Yeah, I'll bet there's tons of cushions and weird shit you can buy.

01:21:38.000 Yeah, there are.

01:21:39.000 They say the lumbar thing is the big one because it forces your body to stay straight instead of that hump thing.

01:21:45.000 Yeah, I was going to say, there's probably uncomfortable shit that's probably good for you that makes your back.

01:21:49.000 Yeah.

01:21:49.000 Yeah, you're supposed to sit like this.

01:21:51.000 You're supposed to sit straight up.

01:21:52.000 That's why they say those balance balls are really good, like sitting on balance balls are good, because you kind of have to sit up straight.

01:21:59.000 Yeah, a lot of guitarists have a lot of back problems because you put it on and it's not really that heavy, but just a little bit of weight every night of your fucking life.

01:22:07.000 Right.

01:22:07.000 After 30 years, it'll start to get to you a little bit.

01:22:10.000 That makes sense.

01:22:11.000 That makes sense.

01:22:12.000 In the exact same place.

01:22:13.000 Yeah.

01:22:13.000 I feel like people that wear backpacks are probably the same thing, right?

01:22:16.000 It's just pulling on you.

01:22:18.000 Slowly but surely.

01:22:19.000 Women with purses.

01:22:20.000 They say women with big tits.

01:22:22.000 You wouldn't think that tits would fuck your back up.

01:22:24.000 Oh, yeah, it happens a lot.

01:22:25.000 I know people who've had breast reductions because it's helped their back.

01:22:29.000 Oh, I knew a girl who had one.

01:22:31.000 And that's another thing, too.

01:22:33.000 I saw a funeral.

01:22:34.000 What's that?

01:22:35.000 I threw a funeral for her old tits.

01:22:37.000 Did you?

01:22:38.000 No, I was definitely bummed, but...

01:22:41.000 But for her, she's probably like, God damn it.

01:22:43.000 She was one of those girls who was always like a pain in the ass, like, I got these fucking giant things.

01:22:48.000 Giant jugs.

01:22:49.000 Yeah.

01:22:50.000 Yeah, it's probably annoying as hell.

01:22:52.000 I get it.

01:22:54.000 Imagine if your dick was so heavy, it'd hurt.

01:22:56.000 What do you mean, imagine?

01:22:58.000 I mean, imagine.

01:23:00.000 Is your dick that heavy?

01:23:01.000 No fucking way.

01:23:03.000 I was gonna try, like the Sergio thing.

01:23:06.000 I'm gonna start a rumor here that my dick's too heavy and I gotta be rolled around in a wheelchair to my shows.

01:23:12.000 Well, who's the guy that they said had the giant hog?

01:23:14.000 Milton Berle.

01:23:16.000 They would say Milton Berle would just whip his hog out just to settle everybody the fuck down.

01:23:22.000 People would be talking a bunch of shit and Milton Berle would go, just let me show you something here.

01:23:25.000 Shut the fuck up.

01:23:27.000 Yeah, who's got the biggest fucking...

01:23:29.000 Just pull his hog out.

01:23:30.000 Like how big, how big, I mean, what are we talking here?

01:23:33.000 Ten inch limp.

01:23:33.000 Jesus Christ.

01:23:34.000 Monster hog.

01:23:35.000 Fat.

01:23:36.000 Can you even get erect if you're ten inch limp?

01:23:38.000 Yes, he could.

01:23:38.000 Milton Berle could.

01:23:39.000 That's like an elephant, yeah.

01:23:41.000 Milton Berle on the rumors of his endowment.

01:23:43.000 Let's hear this.

01:23:43.000 Don, by word of mouth, you never know how much truth there is to any of them.

01:23:49.000 So just once, for the record, Milton, is it true?

01:23:59.000 Are you talking about my endowment?

01:24:03.000 Yes, sir.

01:24:04.000 Endowments?

01:24:07.000 Is it true?

01:24:11.000 All I can say is that I'm still working on it.

01:24:18.000 What does that mean?

01:24:20.000 No.

01:24:25.000 That's been thrown at me so many times, that question.

01:24:29.000 I don't know what's so thrilling about, is it true?

01:24:33.000 I really don't know.

01:24:35.000 You know, I'm not the only man in the world.

01:24:40.000 There are better men than me.

01:24:43.000 Of course, you'd have to show them to me.

01:24:47.000 Now, I've had a little success with it, even recently at 88, so it seems quite true.

01:24:58.000 All I know that when I get an erection, I black out.

01:25:09.000 I'll bet that's fucking true.

01:25:10.000 I really do hope that he was getting laid at 88. They say that...

01:25:16.000 I had a friend, and one of her friends worked at a nursing home, and she was saying that they just fuck like cats and dogs in that place.

01:25:27.000 I believe it, yeah.

01:25:28.000 Those old dudes get a hold of Viagra, and they don't give a fuck.

01:25:32.000 And it's like a dormitory.

01:25:33.000 It's like they don't have any responsibilities, because, look...

01:25:36.000 Viagra probably changed their whole fucking game.

01:25:38.000 Oh yeah, changed the game.

01:25:39.000 But here's the thing when you think about people in nursing homes, right?

01:25:42.000 Essentially, no one can take you in, right?

01:25:44.000 You have to be in a nursing home because your family can't handle you anymore, or it's just you need assistance.

01:25:49.000 So as soon as you start getting assistance, right, you get assisted living.

01:25:52.000 It's not good, but it's also you have less responsibility, less things to think about, less things to worry about.

01:25:59.000 You're in this assisted living place, and you're with a bunch of other chicks that are just like you.

01:26:04.000 In the same boat, and they're like, come on, girls.

01:26:06.000 It's not like you get to a certain age, you just get tired of dick, right?

01:26:09.000 They probably still want some dick, and they probably remember 20, 30 years ago when they were young and hot, and the guys can kind of remember it, too, and they're like, let's just do this.

01:26:19.000 What else are they going to do?

01:26:20.000 Play bingo?

01:26:21.000 But also, yeah, their nephews come by with fucking chocolates.

01:26:24.000 You'd much rather have a dick than, you know.

01:26:25.000 Yeah, probably someone's coming by trying to change the will, get them to sign some shit.

01:26:29.000 It's probably gross.

01:26:30.000 Imagine talking to your relatives.

01:26:31.000 You know they're trying to weasel you out of money.

01:26:33.000 Just wait.

01:26:34.000 Yeah, we got an aunt like that in Nashville right now where it just feels like everyone's stopping by just to hope to get into, you know, gonna have your fucking apartment when you're gone.

01:26:44.000 Oh, dude, it happens.

01:26:46.000 I know a family where the son tried to get the mom to change the will and the other son found out about it and they start suing each other and fucking Christ.

01:26:57.000 Over your mom's money?

01:26:59.000 Like, really?

01:26:59.000 But it's real common.

01:27:01.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:27:02.000 Everybody thinks they're right, you know?

01:27:04.000 It's like, oh, I helped her.

01:27:06.000 I have the right to this.

01:27:07.000 Everybody gets real weird.

01:27:09.000 Uncle Mike said that...

01:27:10.000 I always like it when they have those wills where the guy, you know, those really rich guys, and all of a sudden there'll be like a mystery, like five million to some girl who they never knew, you know?

01:27:21.000 There's some secretary who used to work for like 20 years ago that he stuck it in there.

01:27:25.000 Yeah, he's throwing dick at her for years.

01:27:26.000 Nobody knew.

01:27:27.000 That would be the best relationship.

01:27:29.000 If you had, like, a secretary to keep her mouth shut.

01:27:32.000 You guys just both smashed it.

01:27:33.000 And you could say, I'll leave you something in the will.

01:27:35.000 You ain't got to pay her then.

01:27:36.000 Yeah.

01:27:37.000 Well, is that what it is?

01:27:39.000 Paying her?

01:27:39.000 Maybe she liked the dick.

01:27:41.000 As a gift.

01:27:43.000 Saying, like...

01:27:45.000 I'm gonna start telling women that.

01:27:46.000 That you leave some money in the will?

01:27:49.000 My last album, Broke Even, you can have half of it.

01:27:51.000 But with your reckless lifestyle, don't you think that they would be worried that you would die penniless?

01:27:55.000 Because you're so impulsive and...

01:27:56.000 Well, I'm gonna be penniless soon if these things don't turn around, but yeah.

01:28:01.000 Did your record really just break even, as many as you sold?

01:28:04.000 Yeah, well, I say that as a joke, but not really a joke, because...

01:28:08.000 What I did was I took all the money and put it into the new record.

01:28:12.000 So, in a weird way, I've seen no money from it, but I have...

01:28:15.000 Touring money, though.

01:28:16.000 But I have, you know, like...

01:28:18.000 I'm putting everything I have into the new band, into the new record.

01:28:22.000 Do you mind saying how many albums you sold?

01:28:25.000 I forget what it was.

01:28:26.000 I mean, it was a crazy number for physical.

01:28:29.000 It was like over 50,000 physical copies, which is...

01:28:33.000 That's very rare.

01:28:34.000 Which seems rare, which to me didn't seem like very much.

01:28:37.000 Dude, someone brought me in a CD just a few days ago, and I was like, look at this thing.

01:28:40.000 Who was it?

01:28:41.000 Oh, it's Everlast.

01:28:44.000 He brought me in War Porn.

01:28:47.000 Here's another thing.

01:28:48.000 Can you read that?

01:28:49.000 You think you can read that bottom, the white part?

01:28:52.000 What does that say?

01:28:56.000 Infestation?

01:28:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:28:58.000 It says war porn.

01:28:59.000 Yeah, man, you gotta fix the font on that shit.

01:29:01.000 Yeah, that's what I've been saying.

01:29:02.000 And he's like, no, it's art, man.

01:29:03.000 It's art.

01:29:04.000 I was like, okay.

01:29:05.000 Well, art, people aren't gonna know what it's like.

01:29:07.000 Get out of here with that shit.

01:29:08.000 Yeah, I've been having a lot of issues, too.

01:29:10.000 I'm fucking pissed at Spotify right now.

01:29:12.000 Why?

01:29:12.000 What are they doing?

01:29:13.000 Here's my issue with Spotify, which is...

01:29:18.000 I don't know if you guys use Spotify, but almost everybody does.

01:29:21.000 And people don't know this.

01:29:22.000 I'm going to get the truth out.

01:29:23.000 Which is, those big giant numbers you see on Spotify.

01:29:26.000 The thing that people do, people not like me and you, but there's these playlists that are fucking huge.

01:29:30.000 Some people just go on Spotify and listen to country hits.

01:29:34.000 Right.

01:29:34.000 Or country, wild country.

01:29:36.000 I don't know why the fuck.

01:29:37.000 They refuse to fucking playlist me.

01:29:40.000 So everyone else has these inflated numbers.

01:29:44.000 When I did your show the first time, Eatin' Pussy Kicking Ass became the number one...

01:29:51.000 I probably sent you that info.

01:29:53.000 They had the viral charts of the actual listens.

01:29:57.000 Eatin' Pussy Kicking Ass was the number one most viral song on the planet after I did your show.

01:30:03.000 I said, well now can you put me on some of your country playlists and shit?

01:30:06.000 And the guy who runs the country playlist, it's back to the meat, the new boss, same as the old boss shit.

01:30:13.000 They hired a guy from Terrestrial Country Radio who designs those playlists.

01:30:18.000 And he won't put me on the fucking playlist because I say fucking dirty words.

01:30:23.000 So I'm losing tons of listeners and I can't get on the, you know...

01:30:27.000 Like when you see Florida Georgia Line with the 100 million...

01:30:30.000 A lot of those are just from automatic listens just from those fucking playlists and people don't know that shit.

01:30:35.000 We had an offer to do one of those.

01:30:37.000 Was it Spotify or the other one?

01:30:40.000 Pandora or Spotify.

01:30:42.000 Yeah, they do podcasts.

01:30:43.000 But I was like, well, you guys have an app.

01:30:46.000 You guys have money.

01:30:47.000 Like, what's going on with this?

01:30:48.000 Like, what is this?

01:30:50.000 Like, you guys are just distributing content.

01:30:53.000 So you must be making some money.

01:30:55.000 They didn't want to pay you?

01:30:56.000 It's very, very, very, very, very little.

01:30:59.000 It just doesn't make any sense that you would be willing to do it.

01:31:00.000 I'm one of the few guys who actually, I actually make, when it gets played, I actually make decent money from Spotify.

01:31:06.000 How much?

01:31:06.000 Because I don't, Do you want to say how much online?

01:31:10.000 Because I own my own label.

01:31:12.000 Most of those artists have to, the label takes all their Spotify money.

01:31:16.000 What's confusing to me is like, what's the benefit other than like being introduced to stuff that you never would have heard of before?

01:31:21.000 Like the benefit of Spotify is the same benefit you would get from radio, except it's streaming, except it's in real time, right?

01:31:27.000 Yeah, I mean, the benefit to me is to listen to, oh, I'm on the road, I haven't listened to this Zeppelin album in a long time, and then you have it.

01:31:34.000 So, like, you can make a Spotify playlist, and people can listen to your playlist.

01:31:38.000 Is that the case?

01:31:39.000 Correct.

01:31:39.000 You could make one, and everyone could listen to, like, the updated one you share at Diplo is a popular producer, and he has an updated hip-hop list.

01:31:46.000 He updates it every few days.

01:31:48.000 But there's those official Spotify ones, though.

01:31:51.000 That's separate from Spotify official playlists.

01:31:54.000 It's just when you search for him and follow an influencer you like.

01:31:58.000 So if I started a playlist, I could put your song on my playlist, and then it would be on.

01:32:05.000 Yeah, but people, for some reason, they own the interface, so they make it so their official ones are the big ones on the page.

01:32:11.000 Right.

01:32:11.000 So you want to hear the country hits?

01:32:13.000 Like, this album's going to be in the top ten.

01:32:16.000 They won't fucking play it.

01:32:17.000 Huh.

01:32:17.000 So, I'm not saying I'm banned, but, you know, if they're going to put me on the playlist, then I'm at a disadvantage.

01:32:24.000 Like, who the fuck cares about...

01:32:27.000 I mean, is it that big a deal?

01:32:28.000 But they pay you, so they do pay you when it goes on.

01:32:31.000 You actually make, like, you get checks.

01:32:33.000 When I get, when people listen, I get paid, yeah.

01:32:37.000 See, this, um, I don't, I just don't think, when I, There's a band of like a year.

01:32:42.000 You can't do this now, but they gamed the system and they made an album that was silence and told their fans to stream it all night long.

01:32:49.000 And so they made a bunch of money just off of the streams being played of silence for like eight hours.

01:32:55.000 How could you do that?

01:32:57.000 But there was no way.

01:32:58.000 They didn't have any writing to stop someone from doing that.

01:33:01.000 So do they stop it now?

01:33:02.000 You can't do that now, yeah.

01:33:03.000 That's hilarious.

01:33:04.000 I saw the other day someone uploaded eight hours of rain.

01:33:09.000 Well, that's good to go to sleep, too.

01:33:10.000 Yeah, but someone's going to get paid for that rain track.

01:33:13.000 Someone owns that recording of rain.

01:33:16.000 You've got to make sure you didn't steal it from YouTube or something.

01:33:18.000 Also, someone had to actually be up for eight hours recording.

01:33:21.000 You deserve a little bit of money.

01:33:23.000 There's a lot of people who do that to tell their fans, you know, listen to this song, just put it on repeat or whatever.

01:33:28.000 That seems ridiculous.

01:33:29.000 That's a silly request.

01:33:31.000 And it's unfair.

01:33:34.000 Like, hey, make me some money.

01:33:36.000 They used to do it back in the day, call your radio station and request my song on the radio.

01:33:40.000 That's different, though.

01:33:41.000 Requesting a song and you want to hear it, that's saying you want to hear it.

01:33:45.000 Saying stream my rain 24 hours a day.

01:33:48.000 But yeah, these playlists, you know, it's almost back, it's payola again.

01:33:51.000 It's like there's one guy who's controlling basically all the radio.

01:33:54.000 Yeah.

01:33:55.000 It's like this one dude is just doing it.

01:33:56.000 It's just like, if you're his buddy, you know.

01:33:59.000 Well, any of those things, it's like, whether it's Pandora or whether it's Spotify or anything, what you're doing is you're selling or distributing other people's work.

01:34:09.000 So you're basically just a distribution center.

01:34:12.000 I mean, that's all it is.

01:34:14.000 Other than, like, the unique features of the distribution.

01:34:16.000 Oh, but you can make playlists.

01:34:18.000 Or, oh, you can do this, and people can recommend things to you.

01:34:21.000 Oh, there's algorithms, and they can find out what you like, and then you go seek out those things.

01:34:26.000 But at the end of the day, if there's no things to seek out, you don't really sell anything.

01:34:31.000 That's like the YouTube, you know, people suing them.

01:34:34.000 Like, YouTube isn't anything people get.

01:34:36.000 It's just a player.

01:34:37.000 But YouTube has bandwidth, and the bandwidth is extremely expensive.

01:34:42.000 It's a different animal, because you're talking about, they're not just streaming something, they're streaming video.

01:34:49.000 Video is, you know, I mean, God, what kind of fucking, and they have to be able to store it when they upload it.

01:34:55.000 I mean, what kind of storage is fucking YouTube doing?

01:34:58.000 Yeah, where is it all fucking stored?

01:34:59.000 It's your mom's house.

01:35:00.000 My fucking upper upper fucking cunt.

01:35:02.000 Is it different than like a museum?

01:35:05.000 Maybe like YouTube, where a museum is a building and they store a bunch of stuff that people come to look at and they have to make some sort of money to keep it running, to keep people there.

01:35:14.000 I tried to make this argument the other day that I was talking to someone about it.

01:35:18.000 Is it the same or is it completely different?

01:35:21.000 Um, there's an argument that it's in the ballpark.

01:35:24.000 Well, the argument with, like, when YouTube originally sold for, like, billions, right?

01:35:28.000 Right.

01:35:28.000 At the time, it was mainly just clips of other people's shows.

01:35:31.000 Back in the old, now they have original content, now they have, like, people, they pay people back.

01:35:36.000 But back when it was sold, people made, people made, there were dudes who made hundreds of millions of dollars, basically.

01:35:41.000 Off stealing.

01:35:42.000 Selling off, you know, clips of fucking comedy shows.

01:35:45.000 Other people's content.

01:35:45.000 Other music videos.

01:35:47.000 Yeah, that is an issue.

01:35:48.000 It was a giant issue with YouTube, but they seem to have ironed out a lot of that.

01:35:52.000 Like, if we put up someone's content, like if someone has a...

01:35:54.000 Like, it happens a lot with me with animal attack videos.

01:35:57.000 Like, any time an animal's attacking another animal or some nature video, if you try to put that up on YouTube, you will get flagged and pulled off immediately.

01:36:05.000 Remember last time we got pulled...

01:36:07.000 Because for putting on my song, and I was like...

01:36:10.000 I told the distributor, like, I give you permission.

01:36:13.000 It kept getting...

01:36:14.000 Tagged or something, right?

01:36:15.000 Yeah, when we had Everlast on, when we were playing his war porn songs, we had to make sure that we had permission.

01:36:21.000 They had released the flags on all these things for us before we ever did it.

01:36:26.000 We had to, like, coordinate it.

01:36:27.000 Well, I get flagged uploading my own fucking videos, which is weird, you know.

01:36:31.000 Really?

01:36:31.000 I just, they say, do you own this?

01:36:33.000 But who owns it?

01:36:34.000 I own it.

01:36:35.000 You own all your stuff?

01:36:36.000 Yeah, I own it.

01:36:36.000 You own your videos, everything?

01:36:37.000 I own my masters, yeah.

01:36:39.000 Even Eatin' Pussy and Kickin' Ass, the one that was on Comedy Central?

01:36:42.000 I don't own that video.

01:36:44.000 Okay, so when that video gets uploaded though, like say if you took that video and you uploaded it onto your channel, would they flag it?

01:36:52.000 Would Comedy Central flag it?

01:36:55.000 Maybe, but that one, other than that, that one they would have a right to, I think.

01:37:00.000 Right.

01:37:01.000 But everything else, like when the Guys We Fuck podcast people called, they wanted to play a song from the new record on the podcast.

01:37:08.000 It's like an intro music.

01:37:09.000 I'm like, I'll give you permission.

01:37:11.000 I own it.

01:37:12.000 Right.

01:37:12.000 Even if they come at you, there's no lawsuit because...

01:37:15.000 So you don't have something like that where someone's looking for people that are uploading your stuff to YouTube or things along those lines?

01:37:22.000 I've actually, like I was talking about those, like, I have had YouTube gamers who want to like, can I upload your video to my channel?

01:37:29.000 I'll always be like, yeah, sure.

01:37:31.000 Right, but that's not what I'm talking about.

01:37:32.000 I'm talking about like somebody just creates a channel, just starts uploading your content, which happens all the time.

01:37:37.000 Oh yeah, I've seen it around a lot, but you know...

01:37:40.000 But you don't have anybody that flags that for you.

01:37:45.000 It's a good question.

01:37:46.000 I think that there's an algorithm on YouTube that catches it.

01:37:53.000 Because, you know, my distribution goes through this distribution company.

01:37:58.000 Right.

01:37:58.000 And I think they have someone on their team who does, like, you know, like, I don't know how they know it, but there's definitely some kind of algorithm, you know, like you said, when you put it in, it hears that Everlast song, you know.

01:38:12.000 And I think there's someone that does flag it for me, but, again, I don't know, I think we're finding out, too, I don't know where the fuck my money's going, you know.

01:38:20.000 You should do some sort of an online video series, like where you're giving people access to you getting on the tour bus, traveling, going to different places.

01:38:31.000 Because you know you're doing this podcast now.

01:38:33.000 I think that would sort of complement that really well.

01:38:36.000 Yeah, that'd be good, too.

01:38:37.000 Hopefully the thing Rick was shooting, that'll...

01:38:41.000 If that's around enough, we'll show enough behind this, you know, that'd be a bigger version of something like that.

01:38:48.000 Yeah, no, definitely.

01:38:49.000 And yeah, if you start doing it from Showtime and then take it to YouTube or wherever and start streaming it on the road, I think that's a great idea for you.

01:38:57.000 Yeah, it's been cool, but it's weird, too, because you get back into the whole, like, you know...

01:39:04.000 I'm giving my music...

01:39:05.000 The TV thing is going to be for myself, so how much do I sell myself the music?

01:39:13.000 Do I try to rip them off on the fucking price of the music?

01:39:18.000 No, because I want the thing to...

01:39:19.000 It's in very weird areas where people try to talk you out.

01:39:23.000 It's just like, oh, just give me the fucking music.

01:39:25.000 Right.

01:39:26.000 Yeah.

01:39:27.000 Like, if you do a stand-up special, I'm sure there's...

01:39:31.000 They've had negotiations.

01:39:32.000 I'm not speaking for you, but there's probably times where they're just like, listen, this special's gonna help you, so take fucking less money here, do that.

01:39:39.000 It's almost like they're doing you a favor, kind of, which I don't like.

01:39:42.000 They can do stuff like that.

01:39:43.000 They can say, you know...

01:39:45.000 If they're right, they're right.

01:39:47.000 If they're not, they're not.

01:39:48.000 I mean, if you're Chris Rock, they're not right.

01:39:50.000 They have to pay Chris Rock.

01:39:51.000 It's good for them more than it's good for him.

01:39:53.000 Well, I'm saying, have you ever had any issues with telling...

01:39:57.000 Well, I guess your last couple have been Netflix, right?

01:39:59.000 My last one was Netflix.

01:40:00.000 My one before that was Comedy Central.

01:40:03.000 And you want them to market it more?

01:40:05.000 Have you ever had issues and they're just like, you know...

01:40:07.000 No, fortunately, no.

01:40:09.000 Comedy Central is great.

01:40:10.000 Netflix is great.

01:40:11.000 I was going to say, the other thing, too, is you've got a bigger marketing outlet than any of them, so fuck it.

01:40:15.000 Now I do, yeah.

01:40:16.000 And Netflix doesn't really market.

01:40:17.000 They put up a few billboards and just leave it alone.

01:40:20.000 They let people word of mouth.

01:40:22.000 But that's the thing.

01:40:23.000 If someone puts out a comedy special, like Ari Shafir's comedy special, which is coming out July 18th.

01:40:31.000 He was just on here, right?

01:40:31.000 Yeah, it was yesterday.

01:40:32.000 If he puts something out...

01:40:34.000 Comedy fans are just gonna get the word out.

01:40:36.000 Word of mouth, you gotta go check it out, you gotta listen to it.

01:40:39.000 I mean, I found out about a lot of people's specials.

01:40:41.000 That was the main thing with my records, which I really loved, was that it was old school.

01:40:47.000 It was literally word of mouth.

01:40:49.000 It wasn't like, I mean, there wasn't memes until recently.

01:40:53.000 It wasn't memes or fucking...

01:40:55.000 YouTube ads and all that shit.

01:40:57.000 It was just, you gotta hear this shit.

01:40:58.000 That's how I found out about it.

01:41:00.000 I found out about it from people sending it to me.

01:41:03.000 I already knew you were doing something, but then people just started sending me shit.

01:41:07.000 Just randomly, they didn't even know I knew you.

01:41:09.000 Well, I think that it was...

01:41:10.000 Yeah, I think what happened is just, you know, it's like...

01:41:14.000 They never heard country music used with this line.

01:41:17.000 It's like, dude, you gotta hear this motherfucker.

01:41:18.000 He's talking, you know, like hip-hop guys in fucking country, and it's fucking crazy, you know.

01:41:24.000 Nowadays, you just gotta be so loud, I guess, is maybe what it is.

01:41:28.000 Well, it's hard to believe that you were the first guy that figured out sort of the Andrew Dice Clay approach to stand-up comedy.

01:41:36.000 To country music, you mean?

01:41:37.000 Did I say comedy?

01:41:38.000 I'm sorry.

01:41:39.000 To country music.

01:41:40.000 A comedy, sort of shock comedy entrance into country music.

01:41:45.000 Like I say, when people tell me that, I'm just like, all I did was not censor myself.

01:41:51.000 And have fun.

01:41:52.000 The new album, I think, you can hear us having even more fun than the last one.

01:41:56.000 The last one I felt, now it feels a little stiff, almost, like I was trying to figure out.

01:41:59.000 This one, you can hear us having a fucking blast.

01:42:02.000 It was like, because country music is so serious and the people are so serious, it's just like, you know, just fucking let loose and have some fucking fun.

01:42:10.000 Yeah, it's gotta be so bizarre to see a room full of guys singing along to some of your lines.

01:42:16.000 Then I sucked his dick and I kicked his ass.

01:42:19.000 Suck a dick.

01:42:20.000 Yeah, well, we got a new song called Puss in Boots and one of the lines is a line about, you know, Her tongue knows where my butthole's at is in the chorus.

01:42:36.000 And I'm seeing watching people scream that out.

01:42:40.000 It's like, I was dicking around, man.

01:42:42.000 Like, don't do that.

01:42:45.000 I want a girl in a cowboy hat.

01:42:46.000 Her tongue knows where my butthole's at.

01:42:49.000 That's a weird thing to hear back at you, just as loud.

01:42:51.000 Yeah.

01:42:52.000 Well, it's weird when you were thinking, like, should I even put this in the song?

01:42:54.000 Well, it's weird.

01:42:55.000 It's just like, this is a crazy thought.

01:42:56.000 What if I just go with it instead of trying to hold myself back, which is all the best shit, you know?

01:43:00.000 But obviously, the impact has been fucking tremendous.

01:43:03.000 I mean, the results are amazing.

01:43:05.000 I mean, just the idea that we're playing the Troubadour tonight and it sold out a month ago is fucking crazy.

01:43:10.000 Yeah.

01:43:10.000 You're selling out way in advance.

01:43:12.000 And that's a big place.

01:43:13.000 Well, the Troubadour is like a famous, you know...

01:43:16.000 Yeah.

01:43:18.000 You know, a lot of horrible fucking music got their start there, you know?

01:43:22.000 And just for me to go up there and sing about puss in boots, you know, is like...

01:43:26.000 To conquest.

01:43:27.000 Yeah.

01:43:28.000 You've conquered.

01:43:28.000 Yeah, fuck you, you know, I'll do it.

01:43:30.000 Yeah, he pads on a flag.

01:43:31.000 I'll do this shit the way I fucking want to do it.

01:43:34.000 Fuck you guys.

01:43:34.000 Well, it's another era.

01:43:36.000 It's another representation of our era.

01:43:39.000 That this world is not what it used to be.

01:43:41.000 We're in a different place.

01:43:43.000 Totally.

01:43:44.000 Well, that's why I kept bringing it back to this, which is just like, you can make whatever you fucking want, you don't have to censor yourself.

01:43:49.000 Find the people who, you know, find the Rogans, whoever in your world that, you know, can get the word out bigger, you know.

01:43:57.000 There's ways to make it, ways to distribute it, and ways to promote it without fucking sucking some network's dick, you know.

01:44:04.000 And on that note, ladies and gentlemen, this shit's available right now.

01:44:09.000 Go get you some.

01:44:12.000 Old Wheeler.

01:44:14.000 Wheeler Walker Tour.

01:44:16.000 The tour is available.

01:44:17.000 You can check it out on Instagram.

01:44:19.000 He's got a full picture of all the tour.

01:44:21.000 7-12 starts out in Atlanta, Georgia.

01:44:25.000 Woo!

01:44:26.000 Charlotte, North Carolina.

01:44:28.000 Virginia Beach.

01:44:29.000 He's traveling.

01:44:30.000 Wheeler Walker Jr., ladies and gentlemen.

01:44:31.000 Thanks as always, guys.

01:44:32.000 I love it here.

01:44:32.000 My pleasure, brother.

01:44:33.000 Always good talking to you.

01:44:35.000 We'll be back in just a few moments with Megan Phelps from the Westboro Baptist Church.

01:44:41.000 Wow.

01:44:42.000 Wheeler Walker Jr., ladies and gentlemen!

01:44:44.000 Fuck yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience - June 08, 2017

Joe Rogan Experience #973 - Wheeler Walker, Jr.

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