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00:03:12.000So, like, some people, like, they gotta get away from the crazy people on the street?
00:03:15.000I guess, or they'll probably get someplace to sleep and eat and what have you, you know, and, you know, tell each other psalms.
00:03:22.000Isn't it weird that we look at people like that and we'll go, yeah, you're a loser.
00:03:26.000Like, all you people, we're not gonna help you.
00:03:28.000Well, and see, it's easy to do that because to look at the situation on a far more complex level, you know, looking for what all the issues that can write into this.
00:03:40.000I mean, a majority of these people are probably mental health, you know, issues.
00:03:54.000And there are some people there that maybe they are just total fucking down and outers that they just gave up on life in one way or another or got hooked on something or hooked on something else.
00:04:06.000It's much easier for people to just look at it as, like, these guys are losers, there's losers of the system, and I'm some sort of a winner.
00:04:14.000But, I mean, in a way, some of these people were born losers then, I guess, because they didn't get to choose to be born with schizophrenia or any of these other sort of things.
00:07:38.000It's always harder to take a fighter with a bunch of bad habits and try to cure them of that or re-establish new good habits than it is to just start off teaching them something correct from the fucking get-go.
00:07:50.000Yeah, you always see that for whatever reason with kicking technique.
00:07:53.000Kicking technique, like a lot of guys that come from like bad backgrounds, they have a really hard time, like maybe karate to Muay Thai, real hard time transitioning over.
00:08:02.000And like I would see it even in Taekwondo, guys who came from a karate background didn't understand the importance of raising the knee up above the hip.
00:08:10.000It's like when things got weird, they couldn't pick their knee up for certain kicks.
00:08:13.000And it also, I guess it would depend a lot on the style of karate.
00:08:16.000So like one of my guys, Shohei Yamamoto, is a...
00:08:20.000He's a junior world champion in Kyokushin.
00:08:23.000He was the youngest ever to compete in the World Openweight Tournament at 18 years old.
00:08:44.000I don't know where that really came about necessarily, but yeah, you can kick him full on in the face, knee him in the face, things like that, but don't throw a punch to the face.
00:09:14.000Yeah, they clinch or a point gets scored and the ref will kind of, you know, there's always these little breaks that seem to happen.
00:09:20.000Yeah, it's interesting because I always feel like for little kids especially, what's really good about Taekwondo is the same thing that's really good about gymnastics and even like cheerleading.
00:09:30.000Yes, body control and flexibility and yeah, there's all kinds of great...
00:09:48.000Take you on like gnarly old Korean dude who is going to teach you how to punch the face and throw people and all kinds of stuff but maybe gear your competition training towards the rule set that's allowable but or you could just have some dude that just wants you to flip around and scream to get your points which is the most ridiculous it's almost up there with like flopping and soccer Dude flopping in soccer has hit some new levels lately.
00:10:11.000People, they know that I think it's hilarious if some dude sent me one, and the guy doesn't even get hit.
00:10:16.000The other guy like throws his hand back and doesn't even come near him.
00:10:18.000And the guy launches himself through the air, writhing on the ground.
00:10:23.000I mean, it's just like, I've never seen anything like it.
00:10:26.000What is it that, how does one graduate to that level?
00:10:32.000I'm out here, I'm playing a sport at, let's say, the highest level, and I'm competing against other incredible athletes, and we train our asses off, and we develop all these skill sets, and we get so good at handling a ball with our feet, and not even for foot fetish stuff,
00:10:51.000I'm going to now concede and completely destroy all the toughness, all the grit, all the things that I've developed mentally to be able to run and kick and do all this stuff and build up all these wind sprints.
00:11:05.000And then I'm just going to see a guy swat his hand at me and then I'm going to fling myself from the ground and scream bloody murder.
00:11:50.000I think what you've got to do is if somebody does foul you, if somebody actually fouls you, that guy just gets removed and they bring in a new player.
00:14:11.000The guy just stopped, and the other guy used him as a tripping mechanism.
00:14:15.000Because if you can get the right card, you can get a guy taken out of the game and then you're at a huge advantage for the rest of the game.
00:14:20.000Like if you can manipulate a ref in an MMA fight, which you kind of can I suppose, but you can't get the other guy just DQ'd all the time.
00:15:23.000I mean, I don't know if they really are, because it probably takes away from their stature as an athlete, but getting in these videos where you're just getting shown all over the internet again and again and again...
00:15:32.000Honestly, a couple of these were guys doing goofy stuff and then laughing about it as like, ha ha ha ha.
00:19:10.000When these dudes from Scotland and Argentina and all over who would play all their AAA leagues and stuff, I'm out there playing defense, and I could hustle, I had quick feet, and I wasn't movable, so that was kind of good.
00:19:22.000But at one point, my team kept trying to get an opportunity for me to score on goal, and I'm like...
00:21:40.000The pool we were drawn from, when I'm going to University of Washington football camp, when I'm playing against nationally ranked teams like O'Day, this is different.
00:21:49.000Who they're drawn from is a much, much bigger pool.
00:21:52.000The stakes for them are much, much bigger than you and your college team floating around and then drinking beers after your games.
00:22:01.000Yeah, especially someone that has a potential NFL career and they're super focused.
00:22:06.000If you look at some of the super athletes that you get that enter the NFL today, just the sheer size and speed that these guys have, it's only so much of that can be genetics.
00:22:18.000You've got some serious training involved and dedication.
00:23:07.000Boom, this tackle happens and they're going to try and shuttle the ball back to their other teammate and shove the ball down the line again and keep it moving until they can finally break through.
00:23:16.000Whereas watching the other one, to me, it slows down way too much.
00:23:31.000You have your skirmish, you regroup, you skirmish again, you regroup, you skirmish again, and by the end of all these skirmishes, the war is either won or lost by this team.
00:24:38.000Call the Conqueror you're thinking of, right?
00:24:41.000But this guy was apparently just massive and I mean I would have loved to like seen that with my own eyes like what it looks like to be like a direct lineage of warrior culture like if that guy was living in the 1800s like he is directly from The original Native Americans that came here from Siberia,
00:25:02.000you know, whatever, thousands and thousands of years ago.
00:25:47.000Yeah, well, and the thing is, one of my arguments with the rugby kids is like, dude, you don't get hit as hard as you do in American football as you're doing here in rugby.
00:26:05.000But what do you think would happen if, like, what if, by some crazy reason, people decided, hey, look, we're gonna no longer do American football, we're gonna do rugby.
00:26:35.000If we're talking that everybody would switch over to rugby, that means all these rugby teams in the league and all that would then be the ones with all the big merchandise deals and the TV deals and all the money would funnel into it.
00:26:46.000And therefore, the potential prosperity of it would drive the interest for people to try and apply their wares of being not only a part of that hero myth that would come with being a champion football team player, you know,
00:27:01.000or rugby team player, but also with the Hero myth of just being a part of that within your normal society, you're of this elite, exceptional status, this thing that stands alone, that it seems a bit foreign to your normal person,
00:27:18.000but also the money and the success that comes from that kind of notoriety and the doors that it opens in terms of, to use an overused word, the privilege of being at that level, within that inner circle of Exceptional or seen as exceptional people anyways.
00:28:02.000They didn't, or at least they weren't able to single out any particular factor in general.
00:28:08.000But, you know, there was a lot of theories as to why that might be, but they were able to track professional fighters' careers over length of time.
00:28:24.000I do believe that they were able to account for a number of fights too and weigh that against that metric and see how that may influence things.
00:28:33.000But seven years was this magic number, like six, seven years.
00:28:37.000And once you start going over seven years, your percentage of success started just crumbling.
00:28:43.000Like it was dramatic about how a guy would be like 13 and 3 and he'd get to seven years and all of a sudden it's like 13 and 6, 13 and 7, 13. He just starts losing just about everything.
00:28:54.000Yeah, BJ Penn's a good example of that, right?
00:28:57.000There's a certain drop-off where the person just looks totally different.
00:29:02.000We would have to isolate a lot of different factors to figure out any one particular thing, but there's so many elements that go into being a professional fighter and being successful at that.
00:29:15.000Let's say we'll take BJ. Maybe it is physicality.
00:30:00.000I don't know recognize things that he was five years ago six years ago and seeing those opportunities and being able to react on them quicker There's a number of things and especially when it comes to mental now now you're getting into such a subjective area that You know go pull that apart.
00:30:20.000Yeah, that's a really good point The mental aspect is a really good point because who knows?
00:30:25.000You know the only only the person that's competing knows we really never have any idea how what's going on inside a person's head I mean for me I decided to take a break after my Arlovsky fight and that was somewhat physically based but most of it was mental I I just didn't I had no interest to go into any kind of training camp to put myself through all that again to Then to fight again,
00:30:49.000you know, it's just for one when you start off fighting and what those goals are to As you get further in and further in and further in and you know getting it 20 years of being a professional fighter and being a top 10 heavyweight and arguably in top five most of the time for Shit,
00:31:33.000It got to a point where it's just like, well, you know, my reasons for fighting are essentially still the same, but I don't have the same motivation to go out there and be like, oh, I'm going to conquer the whole world.
00:31:57.000I'm going to take some time to work on some of the other stuff that is going to be more of my life after this because fighting is going to end sooner.
00:33:54.000Yeah, and then Hiran Gracie was a big feather in your cap, too, because Hiran is one of the most respected young Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt guys out there.
00:34:28.000So when Hiram was the only guy that Hallett could get to step up and wrestle me, that was the option.
00:34:35.000There was all these heavyweights and all these dudes, and I'm like, I found a bunch of guys that had recently competed and won belts and stuff, or won one tournament.
00:34:43.000I'm like, hey, pick, what about that guy?
00:37:29.000You know, a big expansion from that idea can come from it.
00:37:33.000And that's, you know, one of the great things about that.
00:37:35.000Well, that's one of the things that people like about you, is that you, most of the time, you're going old school.
00:37:41.000I mean, you're doing catch wrestling stuff.
00:37:43.000I mean, you're doing, like, the shit that Carl Gotch and all those dudes from those old school wrestling, catch wrestling books, like a lot of those submissions.
00:37:51.000You're proving those things to be 100% legit.
00:37:55.000And, you know, I understand completely some of the incredulousness about looking at that and being like, that doesn't fucking work, because you'd think, well, if it did, it would be everywhere.
00:38:08.000But, for one, there's just not enough people teaching it, so that's...
00:38:13.000Really diminishes the ability to expand it, although like myself and All the people from the Japanese shoot wrestling side that that has come from like Sakuraba and Maeda and Fujiwara I mean there's guys out there.
00:38:28.000Explain that connection because it's really kind of fascinating that who went over there was it?
00:38:33.000Carl Gotch was brought over there by Antonio Inoki to create the New Japan Pro Wrestling Dojo and teach all of his students, all of the wrestlers, how to be catch wrestlers.
00:38:44.000And to give them a foundation in basically shooting, which is real fighting, so then they could go out there and work these matches, but keep the intensity, the realism.
00:38:55.000It's like the difference between, you know, I know you're not the biggest fan of professional wrestling.
00:39:10.000But, you know, I also understand some of the gripe with looking at, like, the way wrestling has been for quite a while now, it's like, oh, so it got outed, right?
00:39:53.000But that's how a lot of these guys get into wrestling now that would never be wrestlers.
00:39:59.000To be a wrestler back even in, say, the 70s, early 80s, you had to be a fucking tough guy.
00:40:04.000Dusty Rhodes, you look at him, you're like, that guy's not tough.
00:40:06.000You're like, no, actually, he was recruited by the fucking Miami Dolphins.
00:40:12.000And he was like, I think I can make more money being a wrestler than I can being a football player back then.
00:40:16.000Or Ric Flair was an all-American or big-time college football player, and he went and trained under Vern Gagne and Billy Robinson at this barn out in Minnesota somewhere,
00:40:31.000and they would have to run miles and lift weights and do squats and wrestle each other for real.
00:40:36.000And it's just like all these dudes that you think it's like, oh yeah, woo, and all that.
00:40:40.000These motherfuckers had to go through some real shit, and they had to prove themselves to be legitimately tough enough to be even a professional wrestler to work matches.
00:40:49.000And they used to do things like hold tryouts.
00:40:52.000People would come down, they'd pay in their money, and these wrestlers would just run them into the ground, and then, alright, whoever's left, whoever could get through the endurance part of this, okay, now you're going to get in the ring with some dude, and then they would just get the shit tortured out of them, just totally ripped apart,
00:41:09.000and then like, alright, cool, bye, you didn't make it.
00:45:32.000It's like what we were talking about before the podcast started, about people that form cults and Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard and all that shit.
00:45:39.000It's the diminishing element of critical thinking.
00:46:26.000We will do that if given the opportunity.
00:46:28.000And so not having to think critically, finding a group identity of some sort, even as crazy as a cult, which I would argue that there's a lot of ideologies around nowadays that are just as cult-like as Scientology or Heaven's Gate,
00:46:49.000But to belong in one of these groups, to be a part of that identity means that you no longer have to take as much responsibility for your own actions because this group has decided your value system,
00:47:05.000how you're going to operate, your ethics.
00:47:17.000It stems from fear of death and having to mitigate the anxiety and nihilism that could come with confronting and accepting the fact that you're going to die and everything that you did is going to die with you, essentially.
00:47:32.000Your lack of existence is coming around the corner.
00:47:35.000Not if you put on the purple Nikes and cut your balls off and wait for the comet.
00:48:08.000Whether it's a religious hive or I'm fascinated.
00:48:11.000Well, it operates on the same principles, you know, whether it be religion.
00:48:14.000And you can tell people, of course, to me, religion is kind of one of the ultimate ones because the Everything we do is measured against a wager.
00:48:25.000If we talk from games, what's at stake increases the importance of the game itself.
00:48:34.000Fighting increases that So much higher because the more greater potential for death or pain whatever right you're fighting somebody and as you go down the lines but you know poker is is popular because the raised stakes the money and that as at play and the reward that could come with it and the potential that you could lose from it so everything has this This measure against what you're potentially giving up and what's at hazard.
00:49:37.000So all this suffering and strife and difficulty and any, like, bullshit that happens to me, all of this, in the end, it really isn't going to matter because eventually I'm going to go to this true world and this is the real world and this is my payoff for all of the shit I had to go through down here.
00:49:54.000And so, for a lot of people, the concept of having meaning for their difficulty, for their struggle, is absolutely important.
00:50:05.000Because otherwise, why am I doing this?
00:50:08.000You know, to take your own existence, your own being in the world, and take it onto yourself, and have all your own accountability, and look at it as, I'm here living the best life I can because I need to live the best life I can because it's the only life I will ever live.
00:50:26.000And the anxiety of people dealing with that, trying to really take that on, face on, with death, and their lack of permanence in this world, the argument is that's where nihilism can come from.
00:50:42.000And then with nihilism, it's like, well, nothing matters.
00:50:44.000So if nothing matters, then you're not able to operate anymore.
00:51:16.000I mean, I think for me, a lot of it came from being ostracized as a kid and being someone that was not of hive mentality and not of herd mentality.
00:54:26.000And it's just like, he looks like he's going to walk away, whatever.
00:54:28.000I'm saying, all right, you know, okay, do your own thing.
00:54:31.000He's like, he's just getting even more worked up and finally points his finger out and I'm laughing at him.
00:54:35.000And the girl who, uh, who was, uh, does jujitsu and was a fighter.
00:54:40.000She reaches out and grabs ahold of this guy's wrist and pulls his hand out.
00:54:43.000She's like, don't, you don't want to do that.
00:54:45.000And then he looks at her, and he looks at me, and I'm just smiling, and he pulls his hand back, and I go, I know what must have gone through his head, is just like, this girl's grip is serious.
00:54:56.000And she's telling me, don't fucking do it.
00:54:59.000It's probably a good idea not to fucking do it.
00:55:02.000But other times there have been like, you know, I'm not impervious to getting in a mood.
00:55:08.000And so sometimes I've been out and about and someone's been a dickhead and I see it and it's like, okay, this guy, he's clearly trying to egg something on somehow.
00:55:17.000And so maybe I, you know, add a little something to that, seeing if he'll bite and just won't happen.
00:55:27.000You know, or I've had some people go, oh, yeah, of course no one's going to fight you.
00:56:21.000Imagine getting your ass kicked because you picked a fight with a guy whose shirt you have on.
00:56:27.000Like, you're wearing a Josh Barnett shirt, and you don't know who Josh Barnett is.
00:56:32.000Well, a lot of this shit comes from people...
00:56:36.000Putting themselves into situations where they have upped the ante for them not to follow through is going to bring about a huge internal conflict with them.
00:56:47.000They're going to know that they raised the stakes and then they had to back down, which I think is really...
00:56:55.000Hard for just about anybody to deal with to get yourself to a point where you're like, yeah You know, I'm in the right and then to dial that back I mean people don't even want to really apologize for anything Let alone have to admit that they took something too far It got to a point where they weren't willing to go any further and they realized they fucked up and then to fucking tuck tuck tail and leave again and back down and There's a lot of insecurity involved in that.
00:57:18.000There was a lot of insecurity probably to get to that point in the first place, which is why people that really know how to fight don't have to go out there and try to prove to somebody else that they are capable or that, hey everybody, look at how badass I am.
00:58:03.000Now that you see that somebody was willing, now how much is it worth to you?
00:58:07.000And of course, it's almost never worth it to them.
00:58:09.000And even people that have been all fucking fired up and, of course, they're operating off of anger and emotion and of upping something to a point where they don't feel that they can back down.
00:58:19.000Because if you give someone an out, especially in these kind of things, 90% of the time they take it.
00:58:24.000But it's always that last word thing that everybody wants.
00:58:27.000That is almost as valuable as winning the fight to a lot of dickheads.
00:58:32.000But sometimes you turn to somebody and you go, you don't know anybody that knows anybody that knows anybody that knows anybody that knows anybody that can kick my ass.
00:58:38.000So I don't know what you're going to do right now or who you're going to call, but it ain't going to fucking work.
00:58:43.000Or it's just, you know, turn to somebody and be like, how many friends you got with you?
00:59:14.000Everything is a reduction to violence.
00:59:15.000At the base level, the final element is violence.
00:59:22.000What I'm saying is that, so we create laws, we create social norms, we create all the customs and things to, honestly, to avoid things getting to violence.
00:59:33.000But even your simplest law is essentially rooted in the element of violence.
00:59:38.000So, okay, you will use some law, right?
00:59:55.000Well, okay, then if you're not going to pay the thing, you're not going to do this, and you're not going to let, you're not going to, oh, well, then what we're going to do is we're going to arrest you.
01:00:05.000At some point it reduces down to violence So we're using violence all the time to or at least the con the for a lot of things For pretty much everything, you know in terms of social controls Eventually if someone doesn't want to adhere to those controls in some way Violence is the final solution.
01:00:25.000It's what it's what it boils down to it is the basis for for all of our police and military and even honestly It still exists within all of us on a social level.
01:00:37.000It's just that we have managed to take that concept and put it onto something else.
01:00:44.000But the reality is that if some guy just at some point says, you know, I don't really give a fuck and you were an asshole and I'm just going to wreck you.
01:01:22.000So, all these things are, you know, customs, norms.
01:01:26.000A lot of this stuff is to avoid anything breaking down to violence because, you know, you bump into someone, you spill their drink, and they turn you in and go, hey, man, well, that was fucked up.
01:01:35.000And you turn to them and you go, you know what?
01:01:51.000Everything starts to escalate and as soon as one person takes a stand and if that other person rises to that We're good to go.
01:02:18.000Pull yourself entirely out of that situation, which a lot of people aren't necessarily...
01:02:23.000If it really, really, really got to that point, they're not willing to do.
01:02:26.000A lot of people just don't have the emotional maturity to realize that they've made a mistake or to just not engage and not want to be a part of it.
01:02:34.000But then there's that psychological thing of wanting to win whatever weird battle of words.
01:02:53.000If you're really super concerned about what other people think or how you're going to be perceived by others in a group setting, that could also play into a factor, which happens out and about on the town or whatever.
01:03:07.000Your buddies always see you in this situation, or other people, everyone, okay, you got their attention, now what are you going to do?
01:03:13.000And so if they see you completely retreat, everyone's like, uh-huh, alright, well that guy really wasn't what he said he was.
01:08:41.000I could just hit you as hard as I wanted to.
01:08:43.000I could do whatever, and it wouldn't fucking matter.
01:08:45.000Because you're you, and you're just so much bigger and stronger.
01:08:49.000And I'm just like, Jesus fuck, why is that my fucking fault?
01:08:52.000We have an argument about something, and you escalate it, and then you're mad at me because you You couldn't beat me up at the end of it.
01:09:02.000You got so mad that you can't kick my ass, and now that makes you madder.
01:09:05.000Let me play armchair psychologist, because I'm good at this.
01:09:08.000What I would think is that a gal like that, first of all, she probably enjoys having a certain amount of physical power over people, and when shit escalates, she wants that violence to be real.
01:09:19.000She wants it to be a real threat coming from her, which is why she probably started fighting in the first place.
01:09:23.000Now when she's fighting, when she's arguing with you, All of a sudden, she's in this fucked up situation where what she's worked for her whole life is to become this scary girl.
01:09:34.000A girl who's like literally a threat physically.
01:09:37.000She could probably knock a lot of dudes out, right?
01:09:40.000But she's confronted with a giant former UFC heavyweight champion and she's like, God damn it.
01:09:46.000Well, I do think that that psychology can absolutely hold true.
01:09:50.000For this one particular girl, for her, I think it was a matter of Not being able to, you know, having this frustration about not being able to get the outcome that they wanted.
01:10:03.000And having what they would feel is no recourse to get me to come to their terms and their way.
01:10:13.000But usually she uses physical violence.
01:10:15.000No, no, this girl never used physical violence.
01:10:43.000To me, it's just like, even with arguing, we would get into these arguments, and someone would make statement A, and I'd say, okay, well, I don't think statement A holds true because of these reasons.
01:10:56.000And then we'd start going, and then all of a sudden, statement A gets straw-manned into something else, and then, no, no, no, you can't leave statement A because you're basing your arguments on that.
01:11:05.000We're not talking about statement B. That's a whole different scenario altogether.
01:11:54.000But nonetheless, it wasn't something that I ever saw, especially to begin with.
01:11:58.000It didn't seem like that was what I was in store for until one day...
01:12:03.000I look over and I'm like, huh, das Kapital.
01:12:06.000Well, yeah, I think reading Marx is interesting and I think it's worthwhile to understand some of his arguments.
01:12:12.000And I think he's got some interesting critiques of capitalism, especially back in its day with this industrialism, industrial society at that time.
01:12:23.000But he doesn't understand people at all.
01:13:00.000Once it even gets to that, let alone someone even back in the day talking about, oh, it really upsets me that no matter how angry, no matter whatever, if I hit you or did this, it wouldn't matter because you're you.
01:13:11.000It's like, well, both of these statements come from the same...
01:13:17.000Both of those scenarios come from the same place.
01:13:19.000It's like, now you're attacking me, the individual, because if you're going to do that...
01:13:24.000You aren't thinking about me as the person that, no, no, no, I got your back through heaven and hell.
01:13:29.000I will kick the gates of hell down and kill everyone there if I got to.
01:13:34.000They want to devalue me, the person, because they feel attacked in some way.
01:13:42.000They feel like they're so attached to their statement, to whatever that may be, which has some attachment to maybe what they feel is their existence.
01:13:55.000To call it outright wrong would be an even bigger problem.
01:13:59.000And I mean, you know, it's just like this stuff would start showing up at the house.
01:14:02.000And so I'm like, all right, I'm going to start doing research on marks and angles and all this different stuff.
01:14:07.000And then as I would go further and further and further down the rabbit hole, I come back and I go, oh, okay, so this argument stems from this and this and this and this and this.
01:14:25.000What is it about social justice warriors or left-wing people where Marxism is so attractive to them?
01:14:31.000Well, for one, it's this idea of equity, like this sameness.
01:14:37.000Nobody is being left behind and no one is becoming greater than anybody else.
01:14:43.000It's also the idea, I like to think of it, I think a lot of these young people look at it as Mom's house, mom and dad's house.
01:14:52.000So when you're at mom and dad's house, someone does your laundry, someone cooks your food, you know, you always just show up, you got a place to live, you know, the TV turns on and there's your cable.
01:15:01.000And they think the government should become mom and dad once you leave the house.
01:15:04.000Exactly, so they want mom and dad's house to exist forever, so it's just like they can run off and do whatever it is they want to do.
01:15:10.000There's plenty of money for food, there's plenty of money for shelter, we just need to spend it.
01:15:58.000Well, that's the other thing, the back of someone else is an interesting thing, too.
01:16:00.000It's like, if someone agrees to do a job, if their skill set is limited in such a way that they are capable of doing this job at this moment, Now, of course, if you're asking me, they have a potential to do more than that as long as they're willing to invest back in themselves and find another skill or expand that skill.
01:16:20.000There's always possibility for growth within a human being, within their lot in life, whatever that is.
01:16:27.000And that could be transferred into work, could be transferred into personal goals.
01:16:32.000I mean, it's all about how you value things also.
01:16:59.000The guy that made the widget also has the most responsibility because he had to come up with the money to produce the widget, to be able to hire the people to make the widget, to then market the widget, to do all these things to the widget, to get it out there, to make it successful enough to then support more people.
01:17:14.000And that doesn't necessarily mean it's on the back of that other person because you could also say, well...
01:17:21.000Is everything on the back of the guy that made the widget?
01:17:24.000I mean, his idea can't belong to him because he created it.
01:17:30.000We should take it for us, even though we did not come up with it.
01:17:34.000We didn't even have the facilities to make it.
01:17:36.000The people that didn't create it and didn't invent it are the ones who want to define how much this guy should get for inventing it versus how much they get.
01:17:42.000Sure, and I would get into arguments with my ex about, she's like, oh, I think all businesses should be co-ops.
01:19:19.000And sometimes it would appear that she would be upset at me for what I was able to do and somehow think that maybe I was less deserving or somehow it's an exception.
01:20:51.000You should make more money, but we can't.
01:20:53.000It's not available, so we have to deal with what we have.
01:20:57.000For me, and then I would look at something like Mark Hunt and be like, well, I beat Mark Hunt, but so what?
01:21:02.000I'm more glad that Mark Hunt was able to create an opportunity to make $800,000, so therefore, if he can make $800,000, now the potential for me to do that exists as well.
01:21:11.000And it's just similar to like the old Gina Carano thing where everyone got on the train about wanting to beat Gina Carano.
01:24:40.000I know she just fought Betch Cohea, but as soon as Megan Anderson dropped off, if Holly could take it, I mean she didn't have, she's not injured, maybe she is, who knows, she might be.
01:26:27.000By funneling that down to those specific skill sets with boxing, you create a specialized athlete.
01:26:34.000While there are skills within boxing that will transfer to MMA, even just in terms of boxing, the timing and the footwork that you might use in boxing isn't necessarily what you would use in MMA and vice versa.
01:26:51.000So I see that it would be great if Conor goes out there and wins.
01:26:55.000It would make MMA look that much bigger.
01:26:57.000And he's got the power, and he's a great athlete, and he's got good timing and accuracy.
01:27:03.000I just don't see him being able to get flush on Mayweather the way it's going to be needed.
01:27:08.000It seems highly unlikely unless he's old school Bernard Hopkinson.
01:27:12.000Remember, Bernard used to fight, he used to clinch guys and just seriously rough them up and clinch, and outside he was just straight defensive.
01:27:19.000But do you really think that boxing referees are going to let that happen?
01:29:17.000And I feel like if, but look, man, it's still, you know, I had a conversation with a buddy of mine who's a really good jujitsu black belt and he was going to fight in MMA and he had very little sparring in terms of like MMA sparring or very little kickboxing sparring,
01:29:34.000And I said, you know how you can do things to people on the ground where you get some guy who doesn't know what he's doing, you can just do whatever the fuck you want to him?
01:29:40.000I go, there's guys that can do that to you standing up.
01:29:44.000Like, you can't get this in your head that you're awesome at something, so you're awesome at everything.
01:29:48.000Because the type of mentality that a person has to become Whether it's a championship level MMA fighter or boxers, that focus, that intense focus.
01:29:58.000Sometimes guys get twisted and they think that because I'm a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu champion, I could be a kickboxing champion.
01:30:11.000People forget all that they went through to acquire such a set of skills to get there in the first place.
01:30:18.000And I understand that a highly specialized jujitsu or wrestler can go out there and experience success in MMA right away.
01:30:27.000However, like you said, they might come across that guy who is so good on their feet that they can do whatever they want to to that guy and just leave them clueless.
01:31:11.000And even still, Damien Maia has learned to...
01:31:15.000Create striking that helps mitigate other people's striking so that he can get his best game off.
01:31:21.000So that's still a type of stand-up work that he's working on that has been specialized for MMA as he fights in the UFC. Do you agree, though, that a guy like Conor McGregor would have way more...
01:31:35.000I feel like the odds of Floyd beating Conor are extremely high in a boxing match, like in the high 90%, right?
01:31:45.000But the odds of Conor beating Floyd in an MMA match are 100. Pretty much.
01:32:11.000The idea that Conor's just gonna step in and just clang Floyd with a straight left is almost as ridiculous as the idea that Floyd's gonna step into an MMA fight and catch Conor with a big punch and knock him out, Ray Mercer, Tim...
01:32:42.000Catch him with one of them crazy heel hooks.
01:32:44.000Well, you know Floyd and his heel hooks.
01:32:47.000Well, that was one of the crazy things when James Toney fought Randy Couture.
01:32:51.000There's all these people speculating how much James Toney's been training MMA, and you get to see him do some stuff with an MMA trainer, and you're like, oh, okay, he's not barely doing this.
01:33:15.000I mean, he punched him a few times and then just choked him.
01:33:18.000Yeah, Randy wasn't known for being a particularly vicious competitor.
01:33:23.000Yeah, I have a feeling you probably would have treated that situation slightly differently.
01:33:27.000Yeah, I would have tried to tear him absolutely limb from limb.
01:33:29.000Not because of any particular personal animosity, just because I go out there to wreck people.
01:33:36.000Because I want to make sure that if I'm winning, I'm winning.
01:33:39.000But if you had a guy like a James Toney on the ground who came in from professional boxing, no MMA fights, would you have it in your mind that you need to prove a point?
01:33:47.000Or would you have it in your mind, just finish him when you can?
01:34:06.000It's what I learned at an early age that it was something that I excelled at.
01:34:11.000I asked you just partly to see your response because I knew that you were going to get worked up about it and you were thinking about smashing them and what you would do.
01:34:20.000I could see it in your eyes thinking about taking them down.
01:34:22.000I love, that's part of the reason why by leaving fighting I know is going to be tough not competing because I love going out there and in some way it is, I was explaining this, I was actually at a philosophical lecture the other night.
01:35:16.000I mean, a lot of these arguments always come from some idea of a base motivation from somebody, like the idea that all capitalism is theft.
01:35:24.000It's like, well, you know, you don't have to be a horrible person to operate successfully within a capitalist system just as much as just because you create a communist system doesn't necessarily make you benevolent because, as you will look, you know, in the Soviet Union and as you've had...
01:35:43.000Jordan Peterson on here, and he'll tell you all of the elements of the brutality of communist systems.
01:35:50.000And then, of course, I remember being in the 80s and even seeing slides from one of my teachers who was over in the Soviet Union and sneaking photos out of the USSR because they didn't want any photos of Of living conditions and all these sort of things,
01:36:08.000breadlines, all that stuff, brought back to the Western world because they felt it would make them look bad.
01:36:16.000And people were entrenched in these systems and abusing these systems to their benefit, just like politicians abuse our system to their benefit, just like all human beings will abuse a system to its benefit when given the chance to do so, either out of selfishness to the point of maliciousness or even just direct maliciousness.
01:36:34.000The human element is the key process in all systems.
01:36:39.000They're pretty much the cause of all systems failing, and they always will be.
01:36:51.000You know, these other crazy concepts as to why or, you know, you create these micro group ideologies, and you distill and distill and distill, and you constantly create like with Marxism, it's a conflict theory.
01:37:04.000So there's always has to be some sort of oppressor, there always has to be a conflict, you know, a lot of human beings aren't out there trying to oppress people, they're just trying to get theirs.
01:37:11.000Or creating their little tribes and creating what they, to use an overused word, safe space for themselves in which they understand this area.
01:37:22.000They understand these demarcations about this group and these people and this thing and even this area of land at which you live in.
01:37:32.000I know I'm going off on a tangent here from our original discussion, but the idea of personal property and you have your fence lying around, let's say, a piece of property.
01:37:41.000I was walking through Joshua Tree and looking at all this stuff and pondering some things and That property line isn't just about me owning this and keeping other people out and looking at it.
01:37:52.000Someone wants to say, oh, you just want to be selfish and own and be greedy and dominate something.
01:37:56.000Well, actually, think about it this way.
01:37:59.000That line is the same as an extension from my own personal space.
01:38:12.000I have a good understanding of who you are as Joe Rogan and your being in the world and you understand me to a degree as well as Josh Barnett.
01:38:20.000Versus some guy who just shows up at your house.
01:38:22.000Versus some guy, something, anything that you don't know.
01:39:13.000You know, our personal space is about our vulnerability, about the ability for someone else to, you know, interact with us physically as well as emotionally.
01:39:22.000And so, even just having your little cabin with your little fence.
01:39:26.000Yeah, the idea that you can't have that, right?
01:39:29.000That would be Marxist ideas of no private property.
01:39:37.000They're all pretty much neo-Marxists from the, as Peterson and other people have described, from the Frankfurt schools permeating into academia and going after the superstructure instead of the base.
01:39:53.000I think there's an undeniable aspect that you talked about before where, with your ex-girlfriend at least, or with some people like that, we don't even have to single out her, that people that are not successful in the competition of life seek to diminish the success of those around them.
01:40:32.000If I envy Joe Rogan and his podcast, which I do, I can see that, well, Joe was able to create this podcast.
01:40:39.000So the possibility exists for a person to create a podcast and to be successful with and expand from there on out.
01:40:45.000So that envy can drive me to then work towards it because I know it's a possibility.
01:40:49.000Having unchecked envy would be to be angry at you for having that podcast and thinking that, well, he's got this thing and I want that thing.
01:41:04.000That's the lowest of self-esteems, right?
01:41:06.000The people that not only do they not think they can't compete, they don't want anyone to be successful because they don't think they're ever going to be successful.
01:41:11.000And every day, throughout social media, people are seeing manufactured, manicured interpretations of life and thinking and weighing themselves against that.
01:41:22.000So that's just one example of how you are...
01:41:27.000Using these external forces to determine your value systems or putting value on things that are beyond your control or putting value in areas that are unnecessary, that are actually harmful to you.
01:41:56.000But I'm replacing it with a 75 Formula Firebird with a 455 that I punched out the 470, automatic overdrive trans, and Hotchkiss suspension, and Wilwood brakes all the way around on it.
01:42:48.000So they put a front new nose piece on it, they put the shaker scoop, they put it- and this one they put an LS3 and you know they do all this stuff.
01:42:56.000Because Pontiac, for folks who don't know, doesn't even exist anymore.
01:45:11.000And that's the thing, is that these things wouldn't exist if people weren't driven to express their will to power and grow, to want to be their greatest version of themselves, to create a greater thing than the last thing, to push that envelope.
01:45:24.000While it's not always going to be successful, it's the idea of creating something greater and greater and greater.
01:45:28.000Now, I mean, there's the argument with science that there's always a, you know, is it...
01:45:33.000Shoulda or coulda, you know, of course.
01:45:57.000They enjoy the new laptops and the new iPhones and all that stuff.
01:46:00.000They love all the modern conveniences of the capitalist country that we live in.
01:46:05.000And if someone wanted to sit down and talk to me about the elements of our society, of our capitalist economy, and how the issues within it now, totally.
01:46:30.000I mean, we already have enough trouble with people in power being unseatable, in a sense.
01:46:36.000Like, us having a very ineffective way of really affecting our political system and creating change within it and having things, you know, taken away, new laws created, altered.
01:48:25.000And, you know, at the end of the day...
01:48:29.000The thing about all this stuff is that if you give people the most opportunity to be free, you're also given the most opportunity to be shitty.
01:48:40.000You just have to accept that some people are just going to be fucking assholes, some people are going to be shitty, some people are going to try and create a system that you're not going to like, that's going to reward others for things that you don't think it should.
01:48:53.000You're always going to get those hedge fund dudes.
01:48:55.000You're always going to get those guys who have those gigantic estates in the Hamptons and fuck people over.
01:49:00.000My ex-girlfriend graduated with a physics degree.
01:49:14.000You didn't probably understand or were ill-equipped to understand like all of us were when it came to school.
01:49:20.000Yeah, when you're 18, you don't know what the fuck that means.
01:49:22.000We didn't really understand what a racket it was at the time, so I totally feel for her there.
01:49:28.000So then she goes and she gets a different job doing something else, but made her great money, but she hated it, didn't like it, didn't want to be in that.
01:49:34.000All right, so then chose to fight and do personal trainer stuff, and then would always gripe about how she didn't make enough money, and it's like, well...
01:49:44.000You could do, okay, well then how about this?
01:49:46.000You charge X amount per hour normally.
01:49:49.000Well, how about you set a limit to where you get to X amount of people and then once you go over that, now you double the fee because it's not really worth it to you anymore, is it?
01:49:58.000So you create an increase and you see what your minimum is and then over that...
01:50:05.000And if people are willing to pay it, then they pay it.
01:51:07.000Being truly free, let's just say in an existential sense, means that you have to take responsibility for all these actions, but it's also all on you to find your own success.
01:52:09.000I got completely betrayed and cheated on for months in the end of it.
01:52:13.000So it's just like, oh, well, I put all this investment into trying to help this other person and create a life with them only to get completely screwed over in the end.
01:52:21.000I'm sorry to hear about that, but we're getting super personal here.
01:52:25.000But what it comes down to also is that...
01:52:28.000When you look at these kind of things, you have to say, well, okay, what would I have done differently?
01:52:34.000And you should be like, for the most part, you shouldn't have done anything differently.
01:52:38.000When you invest in somebody else, when you do for somebody else, you don't do it for the return or for what you think you're going to get out of them.
01:52:45.000You do it because you're doing it because it is what you believe is the right thing to do.
01:53:08.000For me, I could be like, nah, I thought my ex was the greatest woman I'd ever met.
01:53:12.000And she absolutely possessed qualities that aligned with that.
01:53:16.000But she also had some really terrible ones that ended up being...
01:53:20.000Right, but whenever you meet someone and all they do is complain about their exes, there's usually a little of them and what they're saying too.
01:53:26.000But see, that's just, you know, this is just human beings in their own existence.
01:53:30.000And so, be it their relationship, be it their business, be it, you know, all these things are all stemming from the same elements within themselves.
01:53:38.000Now, they are subject to other, you know, very specific elements to, like, things that are specific to a relationship.
01:53:48.000So you had a point to, like, what's the, for most people, like, what's the big factor in not getting their shit together?
01:53:55.000The big factor in not getting their shit together is not coming to terms with their own Inefficiency, failures, or inability to accomplish a certain task.
01:54:06.000And looking outside of that for a reason versus looking internally to see, like, I didn't have enough skill to do X, Y, to do this thing.
01:54:17.000Or I didn't put in enough time to acquire the skill to do that.
01:54:22.000Or I made a mistake here that cost this.
01:54:25.000When it comes to relationships, you know, it's where it lies.
01:54:31.000It can be specific to different emotional elements versus your work, versus how you even find time to make the most out of your leisure time.
01:54:46.000Every situation has its own subjectivity to it based on these other external factors that change from each situation.
01:54:55.000But ultimately, everything's stemming from you anyways.
01:54:58.000So your way of approaching these things and dealing with these problems and how you let them affect you.
01:55:05.000And I'm not just talking about being a complete stoic and being just cold and unaffected and unfeeling.
01:55:19.000If you have the greatest year of life and then you have an hour that's super shitty in traffic, did that really stuck with you and someone hit your car and my challenger's got a dent in it?
01:55:34.000Or did I just have an hour of an aggravation that sucked, but ultimately, if I allow that to take away from everything that happened up to that point, then I just assigned all this value into this one moment.
01:56:13.000Honestly, eventually it'll be a small element, but it has a lot of impact and meaning.
01:56:20.000I mentor people when I work with them.
01:56:22.000I'm trying to help them visualize and achieve their greatest state of being from what they can get.
01:56:31.000Now, fighting may be a vehicle to help try to achieve that, but ultimately...
01:56:37.000They're living their life and they have something that they're trying to accomplish with that.
01:56:41.000And so for me, I'm trying to help them realize what that is.
01:56:45.000And that's going to be different for other people just as much as you can't coach everyone the same way.
01:56:50.000Everybody needs something a little different in terms of what they're trying to achieve and people want to achieve different things.
01:56:55.000Of course, they have this element of fighting and success within fighting that is a bond that is a similarity amongst the rest of them and even amongst me.
01:57:06.000But beyond that, that changes from there on out.
01:57:09.000So, you know, just recently I've been working with Travis Brown.
01:57:15.000You know, people are like, holy fuck, you guys are your homies?
01:58:05.000Man to man, eye to eye, and just go over any of the beef that we had had and make his statements and any apologies and anything that I might have to say and any apologies.
01:58:21.000But any person that is willing to sit down and be accountable...
01:58:26.000And hear somebody else's side and just show up and be like, look, man, I'm not looking for something from you, but I'm trying to be open and deal with whatever this is out here.
01:59:57.000The thing is, he just didn't feel that he was getting what he best needed, so he made a change.
02:00:06.000And even still, for fighting someone like Alexi, he felt that, oh, well, having a guy that was a good grappler and also good at that head and arm position, which Alexi likes...
02:00:16.000To have someone come in here and work with him in these very specific areas.
02:00:20.000But for me, it's like, well, if you want me to be here, I'll be here and I'll help you in any way I can.
02:00:25.000And so I would work with him while we're sparring.
02:00:50.000So now Travis is in town doing some press stuff and I'm going to try and link up with him as much as possible and just keep working with him.
02:00:59.000And the thing is, guys like that, I mean, they're already physical.
02:01:02.000They already have fights under their belt.
02:01:26.000I just need to be in there, in the trenches with these guys, putting our heads together, and helping Travis be the best he can be as a fighter.
02:01:36.000And even then, through these training sessions, you're teaching somebody about getting out of a move, you're teaching somebody about doing a move, but wrapped in that whole bubble is, okay, you're having a hard time right now, yeah?
02:02:30.000I'm just throwing out examples, but it's just about working with him on a mental level too and getting his mind in that best state to then best use those physical capabilities because ultimately, in my opinion, mental is the most important aspect when it comes to fighting.
02:02:46.000How you approach these things, your mentality towards...
02:02:50.000Each individual skirmish within that fight that eventually leads to either your success or your failure.
02:04:14.000Instead of just swimming out there, freaking out and treading water and trying to figure out how long you can do it for, have a very specific mindset that you adopt or that you take on when you're in a bad spot.
02:04:24.000And a lot of drills and things that I'll create for fighters are based on creating comforts.
02:04:32.000And familiarity to where things get to a point where you're not thinking about it anymore, but you're so comfortable and in that moment, in that space, that you can react and act as most easily as possible.
02:04:50.000Position that is negative to you, that is detrimental, how to then work your way through it and still do so with comfort.
02:04:58.000Like, I loved watching Liz Carmouche on Rhonda's back because Rhonda stayed so, so calm that that's how she was able to work her way through it, fight that arm off her head, keep in good position, and eventually work her way out of it instead of seizing up and possibly You know,
02:05:19.000locking in place and then Liz being able to finish that face lock or that choke.
02:05:23.000What did you think about that Kevin Lee Chiasa fight?
02:09:14.000And you know, I'm also of the sort that sees guys that are getting hit in the four-point position, turtle position, you know, guys are swinging on them, and they've got their arms up and they're covered.
02:09:25.000Often, a lot of times, they're like, just keep letting it go.
02:09:27.000You're not getting through, but reps will see, like, oh, it looks bad, we're stopping it.
02:09:30.000It's like, but he's not really getting hit.
02:09:33.000I think there's been many fights where fights were stopped quick, when a guy was covered up, where there's nothing else he could do but cover up.
02:09:51.000Beyond that, he wouldn't put that kind of effort into it, unless he's just completely losing his shit and being like, oh, fuck it!
02:09:56.000And he's not thinking about it, which could come back to haunt him.
02:09:59.000Like, I've seen a lot of times, old, old, old, old school fights, guys even in mount just unload on a guy, and the guy survives it, reverses it, and eventually he gets his...
02:10:36.000There could be an argument where Brock Lesnar is on the bottom and he's not moving enough and maybe some people who are a little bit more cautious might have stopped that fight.
02:10:44.000But there's no argument to stop that fight.
02:10:45.000I don't think that the fight should have been stopped.
02:10:48.000I also think that Michael Chiesa needs to do a better job at not letting guys get under his chin.
02:11:02.000I kind of feel like you have to give him the win.
02:11:05.000It's hard to reverse something like that.
02:11:07.000It's a mistake that the referee fucked up for sure.
02:11:09.000He stopped the fight, but he stopped the fight based on a, and this is where I'm going to go against myself, a very advantageous position that was as close to finalizing and finishing as you can discern, where a guy's no longer defending with his hands.
02:15:37.000Well, when you look back at your initial fights in MMA, like in Superbrawl, and then entering into the UFC, which is like, when was your first fight in the UFC? What year?
02:16:07.000Dude, we showed a clip yesterday of Pedro Hizzo leg-kicking some guy and making him fly through the air.
02:16:12.000Some journalist pulls the pad on his leg, and Pedro leg-kicks him, and the guy's legs literally go upside down, where his legs are above his head.
02:16:22.000It's just like seeing him over all the years, training at his gym in Brazil when I was down there.
02:16:28.000He came and picked me up, picked up me and my ex, and we went out there, trained with this guy, Master Letao, who is one of the Was this before or after your second fight?
02:16:40.000Yeah, we were down there, me and my ex, and we're down there to help corner Shayna in her last fight in the UFC. It was in Brazil against Nunes.
02:16:49.000And while we're down there, it's like, hey, I still want to get in training, and I want to train with all the lute de libre, like, catch-derived guys that I can.
02:16:56.000And so, yeah, we trained with Master Leitao for a while, and Pedro just let us use his gym.
02:17:02.000And we would sit there and talk, and I go, you know, one of the things about Pedro, I go...
02:17:06.000He taught me how to throw the counter right hand even better than I'd ever known, and that pivot step, and they hit it from the other angle, because he knocked me the fuck out with it.
02:17:16.000And it was so beautiful in the replay, I'm like, I need to learn that.
02:18:48.000And he hits this, he right hooks this pad, this tie pad.
02:18:52.000It goes, it tears the straps off of Paulson's arm, and it goes flying across the room and hits the wall and bounces off the wall and falls on the fucking ground.
02:19:45.000He crushed people with those high kicks.
02:19:47.000His middle kick was so dangerous to me.
02:19:49.000His middle and his low kick were the most dangerous because I felt like you could more read the high kick, but if you read the high kick, or if you were too...
02:20:18.000But it's when you see the penetration of that kick you realize like that's insane.
02:20:23.000And he had a Taekwondo background that helped him.
02:20:26.000But, you know, a guy like that, you could have gave him fucking, you could have had him doing anything, and he's just gonna be a beast, you know?
02:20:30.000Well, he had just such ferocious, explosive power.
02:20:34.000Remember his stare down with Vanderlei?
02:20:36.000Probably the best stare down of all time.
02:23:51.000You know, and the thing is, people that were, by having Pride, it opened up I would always say, like, having another company with a different flavor, maybe it'll draw in other fans that wouldn't maybe necessarily be a fan of UFC,
02:24:08.000but they like the way that Pride did it.
02:24:11.000And so that would get them interested in MMA, and therefore, then they might also...
02:24:16.000Okay, well, maybe I will give this UFC stuff a try.
02:24:19.000Maybe, well, I like this one fighter, so I'll watch when he's on.
02:24:40.000And, you know, you had Mitrion fight Fyodor, which, you know, Crazy match.
02:24:45.000Yeah, double knockdown and then Mitrion gets up first.
02:24:48.000It's a crazy thing you can't plan for.
02:24:50.000So a guy like Fedor, when you see him at this stage of his life and you see him getting KO'd again, what are your thoughts on that when you watch that?
02:26:26.000When I was in Romania, I don't know the truth on this stuff.
02:26:30.000I haven't done the research, so up to your listeners to go follow up.
02:26:36.000The Romanians have said that they have found texts and archaeological findings that would show...
02:26:43.000A language that was not a Romance language that still possessed words that existed in modern-day Romanian and that the idea that perhaps the Romanian language was older than Latin.
02:26:58.000But they also went to the Palace of Vlad the Impaler in the middle of Bucharest, which was awesome.
02:27:10.000It's all dug underground so they keep it cool.
02:27:15.000For people who don't know who Vlad the Impaler was, he was a guy who literally would put people on sticks and then eat in front of them.
02:27:21.000He would stick sticks through their assholes, put them on spikes, out their mouth, and then have them all lined up around him while he sat down and ate.
02:27:31.000He also took the merchants or these guys that he felt had been cheating and scamming the Wallachian area that he was in, in Romania, Wallachia, the people,
02:27:47.000and really getting super rich off their backs in a way that they...
02:29:57.000We're just saying that it's just like moving into...
02:30:03.000I had all these things that I was trying to accomplish, and so it's just like, alright, well, since I'm not putting energies in these areas, then I'm going to take that energy and put it somewhere else.
02:30:29.000I hate to say it, but Fox really dropped the ball big time on it, and the people that were working on the podcast just completely shit the bed.
02:30:40.000To the point of, like, I had Renato and Scotty Epstein on, and we're sitting there...
02:30:46.00015 minutes before we're going to go on just chatting, whatever.
02:30:49.000And then it's like, all right, guys, where we're going to go, we're going to film now, all right?
02:30:53.000One, three, two, all right, boom, do our thing.
02:30:57.000Nobody even pays attention to look at the front of the footage and cut it from what's not supposed to be aired, and then they just throw it up there raw.
02:31:05.000So Rahsaan, Hanato, is being Rahsaan, and we're all doing our stuff, and then I get this email, and Rahsaan I'm like, yo, what the fuck, dude?
02:31:39.000So then I had to go and reach out to another friend and be like, hey, man, you have some time to fucking chop this up for me and just make a few edits?
02:32:24.000I'm not going to throw anybody's names out there, but there were these two dudes.
02:32:28.000There was one guy that was like, he was part of the head of the division or whatever.
02:32:33.000The landscape has changed in their defense.
02:32:34.000And then there was another dude that was a producer of sorts, who I got along with great, but when it came to getting it all done, obviously fucking it didn't work.
02:32:41.000But the guy that was above him was unable to take blame for anything.
02:35:45.000See, they thought that they were doing something, and then now they've completely changed their tune.
02:35:49.000They've decided to, the only people that they're investing their time in now are people that they have exclusive relationships with.
02:35:56.000Their thoughts about the fighter and the kid were, and Brendan shared them with me, some article that they were talking about him in, where the fighter and the kid, they feel like rode on the Fox name and then became really popular and then made it.
02:36:31.000And then this build-up, the same thing that happened to Tom Segura and Christina Pazitsky and Bert Kreischer and all these popular podcasts.
02:36:38.000People find out about them and they're good.
02:40:15.000He's done some really hilarious social justice warrior things where he showed up at some...
02:40:21.000Well, he definitely dressed as a trans person for a while, was trying to push the boundaries of when can you decide that you're transitioning?
02:40:30.000How do you know whether or not someone has decided that they're transitioning or whether or not they're hoaxing you?
02:40:35.000Who are you to say that I'm not really trans?
02:40:37.000So he went to one of those all-women's gyms and said that he was trans, and then they let him in at first, and then after a while they're like, what the fuck?
02:43:20.000But you couch it under a different thing.
02:43:23.000You do things like use postmodernist philosophical arguments to then take the word racism and redefine it so that it works for your benefit.
02:43:32.000And that it only works against black people.
02:43:43.000It's creating power for a person to affect that against someone else.
02:43:50.000It's also creating moral high ground so you can feel as if you're in the right to say this or that and because you are supported by all these other people around you.
02:44:00.000Yeah, I'm trying to balance it out, I should say, but people get mad at me when I have too many right-wing people on in a row.
02:44:06.000I've been accused of being like Fox News.
02:44:36.000But at the end of the day, what really sucks is that when it came to...
02:44:40.000I had gotten so into politics because of my living situation.
02:44:46.000As I'm looking at all this stuff, trying to understand the currents of what's going on, I'd find I'd have to go...
02:44:54.000Read, like, the most crazy leftist stuff, and then I'd have to go find some gnarly alt-right garbage and have to go there and read all these preposterous arguments, racist, shitty arguments on both sides, just ridiculous stuff to them.
02:45:09.000Because even amongst some crazy racist or some crazy, you know, communists, either way, there's going to be some truth there that they figure is useful to their argument.
02:47:17.000But if you just want to start trying to cut me down into some specific class to minimize me and then devalue my opinion or who I am, it's just like, I'm not going to...
02:47:30.000I understand the biological potential for tribalism and the fear of the thing that is the unknown being maybe too much of a risk.
02:47:38.000So if you look at wild animals, they don't really get into fights all that much if they can help it.
02:47:43.000Because the risk of being injured, maimed, or dead, potentially, is just too much.
02:47:49.000So most of the time they get into their little scraps and they disperse.
02:47:52.000And if you're a full-on alpha, you normally don't get into any fucking fights whatsoever.
02:47:56.000It's the betas always trying to peck their way up and maybe eventually find an alpha that they might perceive having a weakness.
02:48:03.000But once they finally get to that point that they're going to really fucking full-on fight, it means everything because everything is at risk.
02:48:09.000Well, you look at some cave people, it's probably the same way.
02:48:12.000The first time one group sees someone that looks completely different from them, they're like, oh, what the fuck is that?
02:48:48.000But to me, I'm like, okay, I can understand that on that base element, but we have the ability to overcome that, to be greater than that, to be better than that, to not sit there and value people on all these surface-level shit.
02:49:04.000I mean, you can stereotype things all you want and be like, oh, well, this looks like a duck and quacks like a duck and this looks like a goose and honks like a goose, whatever, fine.
02:49:13.000But If you try to continue to keep people in these places...
02:49:23.000You're creating this element of prejudice.
02:49:26.000You're creating those barriers for that interaction to not happen.
02:49:31.000You're the one that's helping create that tribalistic element.
02:49:35.000And so as you continue to whittle these people down to more and more groups, but now when you couch that in with this neo-Marxist elements, it's like, well, now the more tinier the group you get, the more you get to be oppressed.
02:49:48.000The more you're a victim of something.
02:49:52.000It's a good market share, being a victim.
02:49:59.000Right now, no fights scheduled, still figuring it out?
02:50:03.000Actually, I'm still dealing with my USADA stuff.
02:50:07.000To my understanding, what my management is saying is that USADA, to I'm completely satisfied with understanding that the supplement that I took was tainted.
02:50:18.000And they even went out, and after they tested the one that I gave them, they went out and bought a whole brand new bottle, unopened, tested that one, again, laced with the same shit.
02:50:28.000And they had already, you know, they had tested me, not even that much in between.
02:50:33.000Or they had tested me in between, or there was barely any time in between tests anyways.
02:50:38.000So, my manager's telling me that the guy at the lab is going, well, this is such a negligible amount that it looks like you've been, whatever you took was tainted in the first place.
02:50:47.000So, because there's no reason why a guy your size would even bother to have such a negligible amount of whatever this shit is in your system.
02:50:55.000Especially since, to explain that, between the last test and this test, it would be such a small amount that there's no way that you were on something and you cycled off.
02:51:10.000The thing is that we've gone through...
02:51:12.000I've spent like two grand having supplements tested because I would keep bits of everything that I would take just in case and keep them around.