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00:07:07.000All right, my guest today is a friend of mine from the comedy scene in Lochangras.
00:07:13.000And Owen Benjamin is a funny dude, and I wanted to have him on for a long time.
00:07:16.000He's very well known for being on the church of what's happening now with Joey Diaz and eating too many stars of death.
00:07:58.000We were just talking about kind of being outside of the bubble of the big cities and living in a nice, calm place, you know, like you're doing now.
00:08:44.000Like 3,000 people, like I go back and forth between here and there, and I'm like, if someone dies, like everyone chips in if they can't afford it.
00:11:07.000Yeah, it was like 19th century newspaper delivery.
00:11:10.000And also, like, if someone said they left it and you know that they didn't, like someone else took it and then they put it on a nine-year-old, it was like, it was intense to have to argue them down and be like, no, you do have to pay me.
00:11:38.000Because if you're driving, what you want to do is you want to just chuck that sucker down either the pathway or in the driveway and keep moving.
00:11:45.000Boom, you got a lot of newspapers, son.
00:16:31.000But like coming from someone me who has chickens and I get to see these animals' behavior and other birds that I've watched in my neighborhood, I posted a picture on Instagram recently of a hawk.
00:16:41.000There's a hawk war going on in my neighborhood.
00:18:10.000I really think that happened because I was reading about this, that some owls wind up dying because, and coyotes as well, because they'll eat rodents that were infected by this rodent pesticide.
00:18:23.000It's poison they give for rats, just rat poison.
00:18:26.000And animals eat the rats and then they get it and die off.
00:18:29.000And they were talking about owls in specific who are really important for taking control of a population of rodents.
00:19:52.000There's a nice fact they had here on the forced copulation.
00:19:56.000Male ducks are notorious for attempting forced copulation with females.
00:19:59.000So females seem to have involved vaginas to make it hard for a male duck to actually inseminate them if they don't want to by forcing it towards the dead ends.
00:20:22.000So their dicks get longer the more they rape.
00:20:24.000I wonder if the female duck like laughs a little, like when the rapey duck's like, meh, and she's like, meh, because she like sent them the wrong way.
00:20:31.000She's like, she's like, you're not going to get me pregnant, but I just keep expelling calories.
00:21:58.000There was some correlation between promiscuous females and like women having sex with more than one, I mean in a derogatory term, just like scientifically.
00:22:06.000They were saying that women who were having sex with more males, those males grew bigger dicks and bigger balls.
00:22:55.000There was a study that they did where they could not recreate the idea that some sperm actually attack sperm and kill them.
00:23:05.000They couldn't show that there was a real differentiation in cells, like there were cells that have the ability to go out and kill other sperm.
00:23:12.000They were saying that that was more theoretical than anything, and the guy who originally wrote it might have like leaped to a conclusion.
00:23:20.000But this is just what I had read, was that like scientifically, it doesn't really jive.
00:23:25.000But what does jive is with primates, this idea that the more females are around, the more you grow more balls and you grow like bigger loads, I'm sure.
00:24:07.000Especially with a big old scientist manhand.
00:24:10.000Yeah, they're like, start sucking or you're not going to get a sample.
00:24:13.000Yeah, and if it's a lady scientist, you can't let a lady scientist go in there and jerk off a chimp because that's like some sort of prostitution almost, right?
00:27:01.000Like that what we are is just sort of like, you know, even like what we are as a culture, it's just sort of kind of like worked into this spot, and that's what it is.
00:27:12.000You know, like what we are, it didn't have to work out this way.
00:27:15.000You know, it could have worked out some other really weird way.
00:27:18.000Like all the other life forms that you see around.
00:27:22.000They think dolphins are as smart as us.
00:27:24.000They think it's entirely possible that without the context of our culture, like our ability to display intelligence through tests and math and building things, engineering, without any ability to display that, we don't really know how smart they actually are.
00:27:39.000We just assume that the social intelligence they have is not as valuable as the intelligence that's involved in creating things.
00:27:46.000But they have a cerebral cortex that's 40% larger than a person's.
00:27:58.000I mean, I'm sure there's some other tests that they do, and they know there's some really complex language that they have that they can't decipher.
00:28:06.000They still haven't figured out what the fuck they're saying.
00:29:04.000Like, somehow or another, of all the years of these things trying to improve to get to the position they're at now to be the most sturdy, the most viable, the most complex, the most able to figure out a way to survive.
00:29:19.000After all that, one of the options for one of the smartest things on the planet is eat babies.
00:29:39.000Do you think that there's a massive, I mean, there's got to be a massive, massive advantage in being able to physically record things that people have learned and to be able to recreate them in the way that only we can?
00:29:54.000Like as much as we can say that dolphins are intelligent, and I'm sure they are, and their brains might work better than ours.
00:32:46.000He's sitting there with his legs crossed, and this crazy electrical thing is going on behind him.
00:32:54.000And that's the guy that would fall in love with a pigeon.
00:32:56.000Because it's like if that, like, what, like in his mind, he's like, yeah, I'll just make all these crazy sparks with my brain and read a book and then just love a pigeon.
00:33:04.000Can you imagine what it must be like to be a guy as smart as that?
00:33:08.000Like, clearly, like, a next-level intellect.
00:33:11.000Like, there's like us as normal folks, and then there's these like super genius, like, you know, like a LeBron James of thinking.
00:35:32.000I'm just saying that like she was saying it is possible for a building to fall directly on top of itself is all she was saying.
00:35:38.000Well, you know, that whole Tower 7 thing is so fascinating because that's the one thing where everybody points to when it comes to 9-11.
00:35:47.000Now, what a lot of people don't know is that there's a longer video.
00:35:52.000When you watch the thing collapse, it absolutely looks like a controlled demolition.
00:35:56.000And the problem with that is, if you're not an actual engineer and you don't really know how they built that building, it was unusual.
00:36:04.000If you don't really know enough about it, there's a lot of things that I kind of know about, but I don't really.
00:36:11.000Like if I had to explain a double clutch transmission in like a BMW, I think I could half-ass it, but if there was someone right next to me that knew, that really knew about it, they would go, what the fuck are you talking about?
00:36:35.000You know, like, you have this, like, this knowledge balls without, because that's what's getting a little infuriating with me now is a lot of the things being debated I actually know a ton about.
00:36:45.000And like, like I was a World War II history major, like who lived in the Czech Republic studying authoritarian governments and stuff.
00:36:52.000And like, so like, I mean, I'm not like an expert expert.
00:36:55.000Like you, sometimes you have people on the show.
00:36:57.000But he's actually read books about tons.
00:36:59.000We're about, so when they just get the most basic things about the everyone's a Nazi, this is Nazi.
00:37:05.000And then you, because then you can't point out the actual Nazis and, you know, and just how it, and everyone thinks that it's left wing, right-wing, but it's really not.
00:37:14.000Like, like right-wing dystopia would be like Mad Max.
00:37:32.000The need for everything to be conspiracy is a real problem.
00:37:35.000It's a real problem for a lot of people.
00:37:36.000The need to know that they're right about things is a real problem.
00:37:40.000You know, the not admitting that you don't really know part is a problem because until I'm absolutely certain that what you're saying, like I have to know when I'm talking to you, if you say I'm absolutely 100% positive that if I light this paper on fire, it'll burn.
00:38:44.000On both sides, as being a skeptical person, like there's a lot of people that are skeptics that they'll look at things even like Operation Northwoods and they'll be like, well, that's just no big deal.
00:38:53.000Like they were planning on killing Americans.
00:38:56.000They were going to arm Cuban friendlies and have them attack Guantanamo Bay.
00:39:00.000They were trying to get us to go to war with Cuba and they were going to manipulate us.
00:39:03.000They were going to blow up a drone jetliner and blame it on Cuba so we'd be outraged.
00:39:08.000We want to go over and kick Cuba's ass.
00:39:10.000It would cost, who knows, countless thousands of American lives for sure.
00:39:15.000Because you're talking about 1961 or two or whatever it was when Kennedy vetoed this shit.
00:39:21.000It was signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
00:40:57.000And they would all start out with this one of, man, the gayest black guy you could ever find going, something about duck hunting make me horny.
00:41:16.000Oh, because that, because then they can't just do it without having to apologize to people and be like, dude, we're not into all that shit.
00:41:22.000My point was that it started like they took over the rainbow.
00:44:28.000And then you have like a good point and you're clearly not hateful.
00:44:31.000And then they're just like, so like, what do we do now?
00:44:35.000It's like they can't stay mad when you're like, no, you double men and then you're going to get dudes who love working out and like, you know, real estate.
00:45:16.000Okay, that's the problem because they get victimized by people outside of their community.
00:45:21.000I found one that says there's a study that suggests that same-sex relationships suffer higher levels of domestic violence than heterosexual ones.
00:45:50.000Domestic violence is a weird word, right?
00:45:53.000It's like it's extra creepy violence because it's violence against someone you care about.
00:45:58.000You're near them and you lose your temper to the point where you're enacting violence on someone, at least at one point in your life, you probably loved.
00:46:06.000Right now, you want to get violent with them, like physically violent.
00:48:49.000Like, especially if you go super deep, it gets really weird, especially when you lie down with your eyes closed.
00:48:55.000If you get like that and you're really freaking out, one thing that can kind of bring you out of it, if you can enjoy this, is go somewhere dark and close your eyes.
00:49:03.000And like if you're really freaking out on weed, I bet there is a light show for you to watch.
00:49:10.000Like it'll be like, for me, one of the things that I remember, like consistently, I would see neon cartoons having sex.
00:49:18.000Like neon looking old school, goofy, old school Mickey Mouse cartoons with them moving weird, but they were made out of neon.
00:49:26.000And they were having sex with each other and creating more.
00:49:28.000And they were like branching off like some sort of a fractal.
00:50:05.000And to deny it is really interesting because I think it's another one of those things, much like where people want to talk about, I know for a fact something was a conspiracy.
00:50:14.000They also want to say, I know for a fact that this is a hallucination and that's all it is.
00:50:21.000I know for a fact that this is just chemicals interacting with your mind.
00:50:28.000You mean your mind is like constantly processing different chemicals, whether it's adrenaline or whatever it is, different emotions.
00:50:34.000There's a lot of different things going on chemically in your body all the time.
00:50:38.000And then there's the big one, which is when your eyes shut and you go to sleep and then you imagine a bunch of shit happening that's not really happening.
00:50:47.000Yeah, like whole civilizations have been built on like the reverence for what you're talking about.
00:50:50.000So it's not like there's definitely something going on.
00:50:54.000There easily could be something going on.
00:50:55.000There could be different frequencies that our normal biology is tuned into a very specific frequency.
00:51:02.000And when something's off, it could be that they're not picking it up.
00:51:06.000Like maybe that's one of the things about schizophrenics, right?
00:51:08.000They have these issues with their brain chemistry.
00:51:10.000Maybe they're tuning into a totally different world than us.
00:51:13.000Maybe their world is like the fucking dark city.
00:51:15.000Remember that movie with Kiefer Southern?
00:51:18.000Yeah, everything is fucking, everybody's got like four foot long fingers and they're fucking creeping around corners.
00:51:23.000Maybe in their world, everything's like completely fucked because they're tuned in with their own brain chemistry.
00:51:29.000Literally, they're interacting with the universe around them in such a different way that their world is dark and scary and ugly and twisted.
00:51:59.000There was Something really recently about dark matter where they were saying that they think that dark matter is stored inside black holes.
00:53:30.000And my mom is like six foot, loves sports, sweatpants, you know, crushes.
00:53:36.000And it's like, but my mom is such a great woman and my dad's such a great dad.
00:53:40.000And that's why sometimes, you know, my piano teacher got a sex change when I was 11.
00:53:43.000So like, whoa, I've been thinking about this stuff for quite some time where I got to see the same person on different hormones as my, you know, and I'm a classical piano player.
00:53:53.000Like, this is one of the most important people in my life that I'm still friends with.
00:53:55.000And it's like, to see like it, you know, transition, you're like, oh, dudes are way different.
00:54:57.000I'm boys with the Impractical Jokers, and I'm always wondering, like, if one of them really needs help in public, is everyone going to be like, it's Sal.
00:57:51.000Where I'm like, no, dude, I was like that before hipsters.
00:57:54.000And I'm like, holy fuck, a hipster would say that.
00:57:56.000I could have easily been a hipster if they caught me.
00:57:59.000I could have been a Scientology if I didn't know better.
00:58:01.000You know, I mean, I just would have walked into the wrong door, took one of them personality tests and going, man, maybe I could get my shit together with these people.
00:59:42.000When you saw those guys walking down the street with those Citronella Home Depot torches, I was like, this is the craziest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life.
01:00:13.000He said, for starters, I would say, this is Rick Strassman saying this, that what we're seeing is a failure of the educational system.
01:00:21.000This is due to faults within the system itself, as well as attacks on the system, that system from outside by forces and institutions that gain to benefit from ignorance and addiction.
01:00:33.000Both religious faith and the love of community have degenerated into crude parodies of what they're capable of being.
01:00:42.000Regarding where this is all heading, he says, my Zen teacher used to say that the force of good, this is what I thought was really interesting, the forces of good relative to the forces of evil are always around 50.1% versus 49.9%.
01:00:59.000There's a similar notion in Judaism along these lines that the future of the world depends upon a single individual's actions.
01:01:08.000And I think it says something like, paradoxical, like, we are a speck of dust and the fate of the universe hinges on us.
01:01:32.000I mean, you see this right now, like, what's going on with Charlottesville and what's going on with the way Trump is reacting to it all and the way people reacting to it all.
01:01:42.000People are digging in their heels and forming sides.
01:01:44.000And this is any group, any group that wouldn't think that this is completely insane and totally out of control.
01:01:54.000Any group of people that wouldn't think that someone driving a car into a group of protesters just randomly running over a girl, any group that wouldn't denounce that instantaneously as one of the most heinous things ever.
01:02:08.000This is exactly what we're terrified of.
01:02:10.000We see happening in Paris and in other parts of the world.
01:02:13.000And here we have an American doing it.
01:02:15.000And our differentiation is not even that we're being attacked.
01:02:21.000The way we're looking at it in terms of it's white people and white nationalists versus Antifa, right?
01:02:28.000We're not even looking at it like we're all Americans.
01:02:31.000We're not even looking at it like we're all on the same team.
01:04:21.00010,000 people and it might be a lot more than you think, man.
01:04:25.000Might be a lot of closet racists out there.
01:04:27.000I see so much similarities between like, you know, white racists and then like the social justice racists where it's like, it's just, it's usually like the white Nazis are like the losers trying to get something out of their skin.
01:04:39.000And then social justice warriors, a lot of times, are trying to get something out of an oppressed, being in an oppressed status.
01:04:44.000And both of those groups, I'm like, you're both trying to avoid merit.
01:04:48.000Like you're both just trying to get something from your stupid group.
01:04:51.000Because you never see like a Nazi as like good looking or successful.
01:04:56.000They're always just like, I deserve some shit because I'm white.
01:04:59.000And you're like, then That means you're weak as fuck.
01:05:02.000I just think it's just a massive failure from the beginning to now of thinking.
01:05:09.000That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
01:05:11.000Yeah, and just like the agenda thing, where it's like you start ignoring basic reality to get clicks or outrage culture.
01:06:58.000I don't even see color, man, except with the gay rainbow.
01:07:01.000Yeah, just so I'm not into Raiders fans or, you know, Chinese food shoppers.
01:07:06.000Like, I used to do a song where it was like, black dudes with more than one pit bull scare the shit out of me, but a black guy with a cell phone on his belt, I trust.
01:07:17.000Yeah, because it's all cultural signifiers.
01:07:19.000And so I would have the crowd yell out anybody, you know, white people.
01:07:22.000It's like white dudes with teardrop tattoos in Idaho scare the, you know.
01:07:26.000And you just go through any race and you're like, look, it's always, it's that Chris Rock joke that I won't repeat because I have my privileged.
01:07:34.000But like, there's this group and then there's this group.
01:07:36.000And everybody knows which one are the dickheads and which one, not even dickheads, but from a position of like desperation.
01:07:43.000Depending on where you are in history.
01:07:45.000If I walk by too many dudes that have their pants sagging, it's like more than two of them, I go, oh, these guys must make stupid decisions.
01:07:54.000If you got like your, your pants like down, like to like the curve, the downward curve of your ass, it's riding the curve and I can see like a giant percentage in your underwear.
01:09:19.000Like, do you want to be one of those people that survives nuclear holocaust or do you want to be one of those people that dies in the initial blast?
01:09:28.000Alone death with my friends and family survive.
01:09:36.000If I was alone, like if it was The Road, that book.
01:09:40.000I didn't read that book, but I watched a little bit of the movie up until he was teaching his son where to shoot himself in the mouth to kill himself.
01:10:13.000Yeah, you're up in the middle of the night, cocked and ready to rock, looking out the window, always worried about invaders that might eat you.
01:10:22.000Yeah, because I lost a bunch of chickens to a raccoon and a fox recently, and it dawned on me that stakes of life where I'm like, if I needed those eggs, like I'm fucking dead.
01:13:04.000Yeah, I used to work at a dock and I'd feed ducks bread and just watch them fucking destroy each other.
01:13:09.000Oh, bite each other, stealing bread from each other.
01:13:12.000That's why when a girl does a duck face, I instinctively throw bread at them.
01:13:19.000So let's go back to that Google memo thing.
01:13:22.000Because this is one of the weird lines in the sand that got crossed with this, is that everybody, I mean, everybody established a line in the sand, I should say.
01:13:31.000And it was like, you either thought that memo was the worst thing you've ever read ever, and that guy's a misogynist piece of shit.
01:13:38.000Or you said, well, yeah, evolutionary psychology sort of tries to explain why people choose certain things and like what factors, what factors are environmental, what factors are hormonal, what factors have to do with being a male, what factors have to do with being a female.
01:15:27.000Like you have to find out, okay, what is the actual suppression?
01:15:31.000What is stopping people from getting to this position that happen to be female?
01:15:35.000Is it because they're being suppressed along the way?
01:15:37.000Is it because the way they interact with each other is different than the way men interact with each other?
01:15:42.000And so when men interact with them, they get upset by it.
01:15:47.000There's different rules that have to be established in these working environments.
01:15:51.000Is it that they don't want to have anything to do with that and they would rather not compete in one of those hostile, male-driven environments?
01:15:58.000Is that why they choose not to get involved?
01:16:19.000The very qualified ones with the job, people start looking at them like, oh, because they're women, even though programming itself was founded by a chick.
01:18:05.000But if you're going like these dudes go up 200-foot trees and spend all day like chopping them down, it's like that isn't going to draw 50% women.
01:20:56.000But yeah, it's like, if you say that there has to be an equal outcome, you're going to sacrifice quality.
01:21:01.000I wonder what jobs there would be where you have, if you have 100 men and 100 women, what jobs would you have to be where you had an equal number of men and an equal number of women that are interested in those jobs out of 100?
01:23:13.000There's a category that they use, but there's this very popular book, and it's being attacked by all these social justice warriors because of this one character that's racist.
01:23:26.000And so someone took the racist quotes that this character said and took them completely out of context, out of the context of the book, and published it in a blog and was saying, like, look at this racist bullshit that's in this book.
01:23:40.000And then people were getting like really mad at the, of course, they never read the book.
01:23:44.000They just read the blog, which is what people do.
01:25:52.000I'm upset that this is a repeated, repeating pattern that's happened through human history where people decide that there's specific groups that somehow or another deserve preferential treatment or are better or superior or should dominate over other groups.
01:26:12.000It's stupid and it's bad for business.
01:26:16.000It's bad for the business of being human beings.
01:26:52.000I understand if you run into people that are black and they're racist against white people and you feel like white people have to protect themselves.
01:27:00.000If you get in one of those situations, and those situations are real, they can happen.
01:27:16.000But this is something that people were, I think they've kind of let it go for most recently, like out there in the Twitter sphere.
01:27:23.000But for a good long time, it was a defensible argument that a black person couldn't be racist because racism is all about power and black people don't have power over white people.
01:27:33.000Like, well, that is, you're changing the word.
01:27:36.000You're changing the fucking word and you're going to empower actual racists.
01:27:40.000And it's like no one, you don't know Nazis till you know Treaty of Versailles and you don't know this until you like, you know, just over shaming always has a springboard effect.
01:27:56.000Where it's like shame is a horrible thing in people.
01:27:59.000And so World War I, blood on all hands.
01:28:01.000You know, that was started and executed for very bizarre reasons.
01:28:05.000They blame Germany for all of it to the point where they destroyed Germany and then they were looking for a voice that gave them hope and that voice is insane.
01:28:14.000And so that happens, that happened in this where it's like, dear white people, being white, you should just say sorry all the fucking time, even though your people came in 1904.
01:28:22.000Well, you can see it today in the people that never criticize Trump and have like exclamation points and they write MAGA after all their tweets, no matter what Trump does, no matter what Trump says.
01:29:13.000You can't compare George fucking Washington with Robert E. Lee is actually a problem.
01:29:18.000But the left is like over-pointed out problems to the point where no one, like you can't have your, you don't trust your instincts right now.
01:29:26.000Where you're like, if I say this, does this make me racist?
01:29:28.000It's like, what, that it's 80 degrees outside?
01:29:32.000You know, and also I think anybody coming in and deciding to do something is a problem.
01:29:38.000You know, like people coming in and deciding to take down a statue.
01:29:42.000That statue is a symbol to a lot of people, and a lot of people step in and say, hey, this is it.
01:29:48.000I think there should be some sort of real, prolonged, intelligent conversation about what that statue means and have it in a way where a bunch of people can see it and have it represented on both sides.
01:30:01.000Have it represented by the side of people that think it's a good idea to keep it up and have it represented on the side of someone who thinks it's a good idea to move on and maybe we should take this thing and put it in some sort of a war museum and not having it represent the goddamn Confederate soldiers in the middle of this town that's not Confederate.
01:30:19.000The war is gone because you're holding on to this idea that your team lost a battle and that there's an invading army that's in with you right now.
01:32:55.000That's how I felt about Confederate flag.
01:32:56.000I'm like, obviously take it off state buildings, justices.
01:32:59.000Well, it's still a part of a few different flags.
01:33:02.000That to me crosses that line where you're like, oh, well, now you're incorporating it into the government that a lot of people associate with like valid social issues.
01:34:16.000But like the bounce back thing we're talking about, it doesn't really work like that.
01:34:20.000When you push too hard at people and you don't respect them, even if they're as ridiculous as a white nationalist, when you push at them, and why do I say it's ridiculous if you're asking?
01:34:57.000The reason why it all works so well is that we're all intertwined with each other, learning from each other, trying to figure out how to navigate this thing together, competing with each other, improving upon whatever the fuck it is we're working on because of the competition from all sorts of different parts of the world, different cultures and behavior patterns and levels of aggression, levels of intellect, and all of us combined in some sort of a swarming soup of innovation and ideas and communication and trying to figure this thing out together.
01:35:25.000And as soon as you just lump it all up to white people only, like, get the fuck out of here with that old stupid idea.
01:37:04.000Like, you know, what year are they like, all right, we're 18-15 guys?
01:37:08.000Well, as long as you can keep together.
01:37:09.000I mean, this is a nice representation of what we're talking about, non-integration.
01:37:14.000You know, if you keep together in your own little community and only cohabitate with your own, you keep this thing going as long as you can, and that's what they're doing right now.
01:37:23.000That's the irony of lack of oppression sometimes.
01:37:26.000I was talking to these gay dudes in Houston recently, and they were like almost bummed that everyone loves gay people so much because they don't feel as unified.
01:41:02.000You know, like, I don't know if you should be able to say that we're allowed to have murderers in a movie, but we're not allowed to have rapists.
01:41:58.000You should be able to have horrific characters that everyone is terrified of, that people are trying to get away from.
01:42:03.000If that includes rapists or murderers or whoever the fuck it is, if you're trying to tell a terrifying tale in a book, you can't be hindered.
01:42:19.000Because no one really cares that much, I don't think.
01:42:23.000I think they care, but I don't think they're thinking.
01:42:25.000I think it's more of a not thinking about this.
01:42:27.000Like, it doesn't, just because someone has a book about rapists doesn't mean people are going to rape more.
01:42:32.000It's like if there's a book about, you know, people that are murderers, they're not going to go out and murder more.
01:42:37.000You know, like that's, I don't, I don't believe that that's valid.
01:42:40.000I think when you're talking about fiction, and again, I don't want to read about it, but I don't want you to be able to tell people that they can't write about certain things.
01:42:50.000That seems to me like way over the line.
01:43:29.000Well, I didn't, I wasn't obviously traveling in the right circles, like for people that are really angry at Obama.
01:43:35.000But even the people that I saw online that are angry at him, they're calling him incompetent or a fool or spending all of our money and all these different accusations.
01:43:42.000But not like what I'm seeing with Trump.
01:43:44.000Like I'm seeing just like flat out insults from famous people all the time.
01:44:15.000And it's not that you don't wish that they were correct, right?
01:44:19.000It's that in them lying, even if you're on their side more than you're on the Fox News side, if CNN lies even a little, then it's fuel for the other side and it vastly diminishes the impact that you can have because you're not trustworthy anymore.
01:45:48.000One, you have people that are fighting and whoever side you're on, okay?
01:45:52.000Whether you're the side that wants to keep the statue up and you want white people to get their respect, or whether you're on the side that thinks that you guys are a bunch of racists and call yourself white nationals all day, you're a bunch of Nazis, like whichever side it is.
01:46:05.000But as soon as someone goes driving a fucking car into all those people and you find out that guy is a Nazi or that guy is a Nazi sympathizer or whatever he is, a white nationalist, you got to go, look, this thinking is shit-brained.
01:46:30.000It's just violence, random violence on terrorists.
01:46:34.000No look in the eye, no interaction with them, stomping on the gas of a car.
01:46:38.000It's one of the most cowardly acts you could ever do.
01:46:42.000It's a horrifically terrorist activity.
01:46:45.000It's horrifically terrorist in the way that it's like sheer terror that this could ever happen to you, that someone could just gun a car into a random group of people and slam into whoever didn't get out of the way.
01:46:58.000And they think that that would be the thing to do.
01:47:00.000Against America, like people from your own country just over ideology.
01:47:08.000Whether or not you should take down a statue of a guy who was the commanding general in the losing army of a civil war, and you got that in front of a courthouse.
01:47:20.000We should at least have this discussion.
01:47:22.000One problem is people aren't allowing discussions.
01:47:24.000You get labeled racist, sexist, immediately the opposite.
01:47:28.000You get labeled a Nazi if you even think, like from a historical point of view, like, hey, we should respect that this statue is a part of our culture and our history.
01:47:36.000We don't embrace the ideals of the Confederate Army.
01:47:40.000We're not trying to bring back slavery.
01:47:43.000We just think that there's a unique and interesting history of the South.
01:47:47.000As unfortunate as it is that it's all connected to slavery, you know, this is not entirely what this guy represents to us.
01:47:54.000Like, if that's the argument you're making, okay.
01:47:57.000Well, then we should probably have some sort of Confederate Army Museum, you know, where people can go and just observe like the strangeness of it all.
01:48:40.000Just stop and think about how insane that is.
01:48:43.000And there should be some way that we address this in these areas.
01:48:48.000I don't think it's a statue of Robert E. Lee in front of some important federal building or state building.
01:48:55.000I think you should take all that stuff and bring it someplace where you have like a museum or an area where you have where people can go and you have experts that give tours of this and explain, put it all in context, explain who this guy was.
01:49:14.000And it doesn't, you know, look, nobody today was a part of the fucking Confederate Army, okay?
01:49:20.000If you're a 30-year-old guy today, you were not a part of that, okay?
01:49:24.000You're a human being that lives in America.
01:49:26.000You're not responsible for the sins of your ancestors, nor are you obligated to continue the same ridiculous ideas that maybe you were raised with or other people were raised with too.
01:49:37.000We're supposed to be all in this together.
01:49:39.000If we all got attacked by whether it's some invading army or fucking aliens from outer space, I mean, that was like a famous Ronald Reagan quote about how quickly we would forget about our differences between us and Russia if we were attacked by an alien force from outside this planet.
01:50:34.000You know, I mean, think about back when the only reason why we're here is because people had to breed from the time we weren't people.
01:50:42.000They had to keep from the time we were some sort of, that's if you believe in all that liberal bullshit about evolution, which is mostly just a plot concocted by the Jews.
01:50:53.000But if you do pay attention to evolution, we came from some sort of a lower hominid and we evolved over time.
01:51:00.000We kept improving through natural selection, all sorts of different factors and mutations.
01:51:06.000We improved and became what we are today.
01:51:09.000Well, that means we bred back when we were almost like fish people, right?
01:51:15.000We kept going through this whole thing.
01:51:17.000What we are today, the only reason why anybody ever got better than those people that had to walk 10 miles for butter, because they were like, fuck walking 10 miles for butter.
01:52:56.000I really think it's a lot better than it was in the 60s.
01:52:58.000I think it still sucks in some spots, though.
01:53:01.000And I think emotion, like events like this, as horrific as they are, they're good for a lot of people that live in places outside of there where they didn't know.
01:53:11.000You get caught in the pattern of whatever your environment is.
01:53:15.000And if you're in an environment of stagnant ancient racism that goes back to the slave days and goes back to pre-Civil War, and then it's like this same area, new ideas are slowly making their way in.
01:53:27.000Because it's not like a lot of influx of new people moving into these places either.
01:53:32.000It's people having kids and the kids maybe learn a little bit at school.
01:53:35.000And it's a slow process of getting out the shitty ideas.
01:53:39.000It's like your bit about the Middle East are the townies of the world.
01:54:22.000And there was a bunch of people that were there that were there, you know, guys that were in their late 40s and 50s that were telling me about back in the day with the bombings with the IRA.
01:54:35.000And they were explaining to me some horrific things that were done to people there.
01:54:39.000I mean, these are Irish people going after other Irish people, right?
01:54:44.000And the cop cars there are fully armored like war vehicles.
01:54:49.000Like, I've never seen anything like it.
01:54:51.000In all the places that I've been, I've never seen anything like it.
01:54:53.000Where the cop cars are covered with like steel plates, like steel mesh on the front, steel plates and battery ramps.
01:56:00.000Have you seen that area where it's like essentially no man's land?
01:56:05.000You can't go into it because there's so much unexploded ordnance that literally there's so much toxic shit from these bombs that there's an area the size of Paris that you can't go to.
01:57:30.000Like when my piano teacher got a sex change, like no one really cared as long as he still matched the demo, like liking the bills and shit like that.
01:58:47.000Yeah, and people are operating from fear too, where it's like they are starting to say like a six-year-old can choose their gender and then have hormones.
01:59:23.000The fucking frontal cortex doesn't even get fully formed until you're 25.
01:59:27.000So like, what are you doing making big choices?
01:59:29.000Like, if I had to go back and think about like some super important choices that I could have made when I was 18 and whether or not I'd have been rational.
02:01:00.000They're going to reconstruct the tip of your dick.
02:01:02.000Yeah, I feel like my leaner's like, you know, I got like a warm.
02:01:06.000They take your nose and they put it on the tip of your dick and they give you a rubber nose.
02:01:13.000It's like, why is my nose, my dick is sniffling?
02:01:16.000The kid can't even make a fucking choice for himself.
02:01:18.000I know it's happened before, and one kid lost his penis in a circumcision accident, and so they tried to transition him to being a woman, and then he was suicidal, and they turned him back into a man, and then he wound up killing himself.
02:03:22.000Yeah, because it's like they couldn't exit the browser, so they would have to like physically put it in the woods when they were disgusted at what they whacked to.
02:03:29.000When I was 20, One of my friends found, got a hold of one of those videos of women having sex with animals.
02:03:36.000It was like Barnyard Betty or something like that.
02:03:48.000I remember all of us, you know, just becoming men, you know, 20 years old, sitting there watching it over, I think it was someone's dad's, you know, someone's parents' house watching this fucking video going, what are we even seeing here?
02:09:48.000They basically painted the shit out of their whole body.
02:09:50.000I'd go with that, though, if given the option.
02:09:52.000If someone's like, we got a paint guy, I'm like, yeah.
02:09:55.000The movie, though, I mean, kind of demanded it because the movie was this fantastic visual masterpiece where I think you would have been thrown off if people had regular bodies.
02:10:06.000Like, I 100% support it in that movie because, like, Xerxes was like 10 feet tall, remember, like the Persian king?
02:10:15.000And then all the other people, like, everyone was totally jacked.
02:10:19.000It was perfect because it was like very much like one of those illustrated books, like a comic, a super high-end graphic novel come to life.
02:13:14.000I had this super stonered idea once that one day they would come out with a computer that is so powerful that it calculates the position.
02:13:26.000This would have to be dependent upon a bunch of other technologies that are new, like specifically the ability to monitor every single thing on Earth in high definition, and then put all that information to some crazy supercomputer.
02:13:38.000So you look at every object that is in every position, wherever it is, and somehow or another they could figure out how everything got there.
02:13:47.000And through some super powerful AI that hasn't even been invented yet, they would literally be able to recreate every single moment that happened that led to that happening right there.
02:13:58.000Like you get the math and just go backwards.
02:14:00.000Yeah, we realized at one point this is a super stoner idea that I don't think is real, folks.
02:14:08.000But this is my super stoner idea was that they would figure out computers that are so impossibly powerful and they can calculate and extrapolate and do this crazy sort of, some sort of algorithm that figures out exactly how everything got to wherever it is.
02:14:27.000And then you could recreate in some sort of visual form everything that's ever happened ever.
02:14:32.000I think that's possible theoretically.
02:15:19.000But that's how I think about people calling someone a misogynist.
02:15:21.000Like, a misogynist is someone who hates women.
02:15:23.000If someone writes a page and a half of different ideas of how you can encourage women to get into tech and so they would be more represented, that would, you know, like make it more interesting for them or ways to get them in.
02:15:58.000And it doesn't mean you hate women if you think that the reason why there is whatever the percentage is is 10% or 15% or 20% of women in tech.
02:16:08.000If that's that way, just because 20% of the women who decide to go into college and decide to pursue a career are interested in it.
02:16:15.000If it's any other reason, we need to examine it.
02:16:17.000But if it's that reason, then we should just kind of accept it for what it is and try to make it easier for those women that work there.
02:20:05.000Yeah, it's, you know, there's a bunch of people that are going to be better at things than you, whether it's better at math or it's better at music or it's better at whatever the fuck it is.
02:20:16.000And there's going to be a bunch of people of all sorts of genders that are better than you at it and all sorts of ethnicities and all.
02:20:22.000They come from all sorts of different parts of the planet.
02:20:49.000You know, that's why I'm not like Black, Redneck, White Liberals, one of my favorite books by Thomas Sowell.
02:20:54.000And like, culture is everything, you know?
02:20:58.000And a lot of it has to do with whether or not you herded animals or had a farm.
02:21:01.000And that's the size of government you want.
02:21:03.000Or it's like, it's the same with like certain Chinese people can count so well and they're so good at math because they just, it's one, two, three, four, five, and then 10, 1, 10, 2, 10, 3.
02:21:13.000So they never had 13, 14, 15 that set us back a month and that like starts snowballing.
02:21:22.000It's all about efficiency because it's year-round and you have like a little amount of land and then like, so that makes you a little more efficient as a culture.
02:21:31.000It just means like you guys value different shit.
02:21:34.000Yeah, I mean, you got to wonder how much of what a person is in 2017, how much of it has to do with all sorts of factors and influences that are completely out of your control.
02:21:47.000And if a lot of it, I'm inclined to believe it's most, almost all of it, has to do with things that are out of your control.
02:21:54.000Like, why would you think that would be a good idea to be aligned with a group of one people that have one thing in common?
02:23:02.000You know, you should be happy that you're a good person.
02:23:05.000And, you know, you should be happy that you have a lot of friends and that you enjoy each other's company and you can make them happy and they can make you happy and that you enjoy seeing them.
02:23:14.000You should be happy about accomplishments and good interactions that you successfully navigated through with people that maybe could have gone badly.
02:23:22.000Those are always good feelings when clear the air with somebody and you give a big hug at the end of it and everybody feels better.
02:23:36.000How about those dudes who showed up with guns?
02:23:38.000They showed up with guns, like full, full-on open carry, walking on the street with military outfits on, flak jackets, machine guns, showing up while they're taking down this fucking statue.
02:23:49.000Yeah, it's definitely a form of mental illness where it's like you're living out trauma that it doesn't really apply to your life.
02:23:55.000Well, there's no real war for these people.
02:24:26.000I have no idea if the police were at fault.
02:24:28.000There's a lot of people that believe that the police should have separated them and they did not, they didn't do anything about it and they allowed it to escalate and they stood back while it escalated.
02:24:37.000Like they didn't have the power, the manpower to go in and enforce some sort of civility.
02:27:06.000And there's also a lot of nice people.
02:27:08.000You just got to figure out a way to navigate away from the douchebags and don't be one of them.
02:27:13.000And as soon as you show up with a fucking torch, yelling white pride, and you're taking off your shirt to show your Nazi tattoo, like, dude.
02:27:20.000Dude, the Nazi flag is literally a red flag.
02:27:23.000It's the worst thing you can do to your body to show that you're a part of, like, one of the worst groups ever in human history.
02:27:32.000You're a part of this that randomly discriminates against Jews and wants to kill them and throw them in ovens.
02:29:01.000All hobbies to me are the same thing in that what you're trying to do is trying to like focus on something and get better at it and figure out what it is that makes this thing good.
02:29:20.000And I feel like it's like cross-training.
02:29:22.000I feel like when you get involved in hobbies and you really get in, as long as you manage them healthily where you don't let them take over your life, getting better at a thing like chess Or jiu-jitsu, or whatever it is, gets you better at the entirety of your life.
02:29:35.000As long as you look at the entirety of your life in balance and you don't let it run away from you.
02:29:40.000Because I've let it run away from me for a bunch of times.
02:35:53.000Well, that's the issue that a lot of people have with people getting really crazy with those kind of Olympic lifts and things along those lines.
02:36:00.000You got to be real careful with that shit.
02:39:03.000And I'm such like a, I'm just, I'm like retarded.
02:39:05.000You know, and I'm playing like the craziest songs ever written.
02:39:08.000We made this video because Eddie Bravo had always seen me do this and he would tell people and they would go, shut the fuck up.
02:39:15.000You know, because everybody always thinks that everybody's always exaggerating about their friend who does something, you know, whatever the fuck it is.
02:39:23.000And so he was always like talking to me about martial arts kicking.
02:39:30.000And I was like, well, there's a lot of like problems with some of the ways some people kick.
02:40:16.000If you like see like a really good like Muay Thai fighter and you watch someone kick someone's legs, it's so horrible.
02:40:24.000Like the sound it makes and the power it has.
02:40:26.000I see that in the US street all the time.
02:40:28.000It's one of the still to this day, one of the hardest because I'm like, god damn it, I don't think people are appreciating how hard that is.
02:41:05.000You lift your leg up and you check it.
02:41:07.000Like you would try, like they're trying to hit the meat.
02:41:10.000Well, they could be trying to hit low too.
02:41:11.000That's actually more recently a much more used tactic is the low leg kick where they're attacking like literally like right above the ankle.
02:44:31.000Because strength, endurance, mental ability, you know, you're basically a quarterback and a running back and a linebacker at the same time.
02:44:38.000The only thing that I would think might be harder to do is those ultra marathons when those dudes are running like we're talking about the Bigfoot 200.
02:44:47.000When those dudes are running 205 miles over mountains.
02:44:51.000That might be harder to do than an MMA fight.
02:44:53.000Like if you thought of the amount of people that could fight in an MMA fight versus the amount of people that could run for 78 hours in a row, run 205 miles.
02:45:08.000They're different things, obviously, because one of them is dealing with getting your ass kicked, but the other one is dealing with your own demons.
02:45:15.000Like your demons, the wanting to quit demon.
02:45:23.000You know, the fuck off demon that tripped up the disciplined demon and you didn't get in good enough shape to really run 205 miles in 78 hours, which is just insane.
02:45:33.000Man versus self versus man versus man.
02:50:03.000And what's interesting is they have red meat.
02:50:06.000They have ostrich burgers that you get at Fudruckers, and they're quite delicious.
02:50:10.000And they're actually very high in protein, like much higher in protein, I think, than beef.
02:50:14.000I think they're up there with like wild game, like in the neighborhood, like maybe not wild, not maybe not like wild moose or something like that, but in the neighborhood, like getting closer to that than it is to like beef.
02:59:11.000Ask these, these, these, the authors of these articles about him of Charlottesville and all these different things, they've have him lumped, Jordan Peterson, have him lumped in.
02:59:21.000And actually, not Charlottesville, because of the Google memo.
02:59:47.000And he has real concerns about all these things.
02:59:51.000And I think very valid concerns, in particular about people wanting to enforce their ideas on other people and make people behave a very certain way.
03:00:01.000And there's a real inclination that people have for that.
03:00:04.000And you're seeing that with Charlottesville.
03:00:07.000I mean, part of the reaction to all this stuff, part of the reaction to all this stuff is realizing that this kind of thinking can exist, right?
03:00:16.000This shit that you didn't expect to see can just pop up like that.
03:00:21.000Like, I almost think we have to see it to know it's real.
03:00:25.000Yeah, because I thought a lot of this was gone.
03:00:44.000And you have to be able to identify it.
03:00:45.000It's also extremely shitty to people that have been victims of actual Nazis where you're like, oh, a microaggression at Brown isn't my fucking grandmother in an oven.
03:01:55.000I've seen this when I was a Jehovah's Witness.
03:01:57.000And I was like, that's exactly what it's like.
03:01:59.000It's like this enforcing this and silencing debate.
03:02:03.000Like there was one of the things that was talked about in the Google memo that I thought was fascinating was that certain subjects are too sacred to be discussed.
03:02:11.000And that is one of them, like gender and tech.
03:02:14.000Apparently, I don't work in tech, obviously.
03:02:16.000But gender in specific, like any women's issues, you're not supposed to discuss them as a man.
03:02:21.000And any men's issue discussed by a woman is like the thought of a woman trying to steal your money or come up with sneak your divorce laws.
03:02:29.000We don't want anybody having any opinion whatsoever about a side that they're not on.
03:02:35.000And that's women's growth, and it's the opposite of science.
03:03:01.000And you got to listen to them if they're explaining the actual evolutionary mechanisms that have caused human beings to behave a certain way, why more men are inclined to favor specific activities.
03:03:11.000And you look at all the different numbers and variables that you could look at in terms of how many more men die on the job, how many more men pick difficult jobs.
03:03:18.000And also this weird thing that we're doing where we're trying to pretend that things are different than they really are to sort of support your point better.
03:03:26.000Like that's one of the things that people do with the gender pay gap, right?
03:03:28.000They always want to say, well, the gender pay gap shows is real prejudice between men and women.
03:03:32.000No, no, no, it's not what it shows at all.
03:03:34.000It shows that women and men choose different jobs.
03:03:37.000And when I told a good buddy of mine that, he didn't believe it.
03:06:23.000Well, I don't think anybody should tell anybody what to do.
03:06:25.000I mean, that's the whole point of all this.
03:06:27.000But I think we should also stop pretending that there's not some sort of meritocracy going on when it comes to most corporations and most jobs.
03:06:36.000You know, whatever discrimination that there is, boy, I really hope that gets rooted out so we can concentrate on what's important.
03:06:42.000And what's important is people finding something they enjoy and doing it without discrimination and doing it without, you know, having to deal with too much resistance from the people that you're doing it with.
03:06:50.000You know, that's a harmonious life, right?
03:06:53.000Find some sort of a path of least resistance to get to it where you can really enjoy it and participate in it, hopefully with like-minded people.
03:07:00.000Like one of the things that I've always been really happy about the store and about stand-up comedy in general is that it's a brotherhood and a sisterhood.
03:07:08.000Like when Whitney Cummings comes around the comedy store, she's as much my brother or sister as any of the other guys, as Andrew Santino, as any of these guys.
03:07:20.000And if you get through and you're funny, if you're Sarah Silverman or, you know, name that person, you're treated with the same amount of respect that guys are.
03:08:07.000Just like with fighting, it's like, well, if you commit to just, you know, taekwondo and not do the full package of jiu-jitsu and all that shit, like you're at a disadvantage.
03:08:16.000So it's like that, that identity can hurt you if you don't branch out into like what works.
03:08:21.000You know, I don't know shit about fighting, obviously, but I've just heard you talk about like just that well-rounded grappling and striking and all that shit.
03:08:28.000Like the stakes are so high That you can't really be nonsense.
03:08:32.000The only other option is you got to be a specialist at such a high level that you're better than everybody else at one thing.
03:08:38.000Like you get that with this guy, Damian Maya, who just lost actually, to a guy who's more well-rounded, ironically.
03:08:45.000But he's been able to beat so many world-class fighters just because he's so amazing at jiu-jitsu, gets a hold of guys, drags him to the ground, and either strangles him or gets really close to strangling him to the point where he dominates all the exchanges.
03:08:55.000He's done that with like, I think he beat six or seven guys in a row, and really good guys, by really, like Carlos Condit, former interim welterweight champion, strangled him, got him on the ground, choked him out.
03:09:06.000So it's like, there's a few guys that can do that, but for the most part, you got to be able to do everything.
03:09:10.000And I think if you have blind spots when it comes to like things that you, if you're like, if you're a blind spot, the blind spot is you don't respect women.
03:09:22.000Or you have a blind spot, you don't like black people, or you don't like gay people.
03:09:25.000If you have a real blind spot, that's going to emanate through all your thinking.
03:09:30.000It's going to fuck up your logic and how you look at anything that happens in the world that you try to turn into a bit.
03:09:35.000That prejudice thinking, like if you have that kind of stupid hate and anger or resentment, whatever it is in your mind where you're not thinking clearly, you're going to miss things.
03:09:46.000You're not going to be as good as you want to be.
03:09:50.000That's why I do a podcast, Why Didn't They Laugh?
03:09:54.000Where like I literally just, I don't always do it because I'm not always on the road, but I'll just show bombs and just almost like it's like sports where I'm like, why didn't that work?
03:10:05.000And it motivated me to try shit a lot because I was like, okay, I got an hour.
03:10:59.000If you're like in the mindset of like, oh, this works, so I'm just going to do that.
03:11:03.000But if you're in the growth mindset, you're like, because I love doing new shit, you know?
03:11:07.000Well, isn't it interesting like you coming from a music background, like you've been playing piano, like you said, as long as you can remember.