The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion

00:00:00.000 Damn, Sam Stout got KO'd in the first round.

00:00:02.000 Ain't that a bitch.

00:00:03.000 We're alive.

00:00:05.000 Sorry we're late, but that's just how shit goes.

00:00:08.000 This is a Fight Companion podcast.

00:00:10.000 Have you ever heard one of these before?

00:00:12.000 Expect chaos.

00:00:13.000 Expect a lot of talking over.

00:00:15.000 Expect very little...

00:00:16.000 This is not like a regular podcast.

00:00:18.000 If you listen to this, it's like, wow, they're going to talk about some cool shit.

00:00:20.000 Maybe, but what we're actually doing is watching fights.

00:00:24.000 And during the fights, while they're playing off live, we're going to be talking.

00:00:29.000 Eddie Bravo's here.

00:00:31.000 Thank you for having me, John.

00:00:32.000 You motherfucking owls.

00:00:33.000 Aubrey Marcus is in this.

00:00:35.000 What's up?

00:00:36.000 Tate Fletcher just has entered the domicile.

00:00:40.000 The big Tate Fletcher.

00:00:42.000 Holla.

00:00:43.000 He's got a little more feminine when Tate was here.

00:00:47.000 Say hi to the world, Brian Callen.

00:00:49.000 I'll do whatever you say.

00:00:50.000 And Brendan motherfucking Schaub is also here.

00:00:53.000 The fight has already started.

00:00:55.000 We've got 3 minutes and 30 seconds on the clock left in the round.

00:00:59.000 First fight, Marina Moroz and Valerie Neterno.

00:01:04.000 Letourneau.

00:01:05.000 Banging, too.

00:01:05.000 The girls are banging.

00:01:06.000 This is the first fight, and if you're watching this live, you will probably be about 10 to 15 seconds behind the actual live fight.

00:01:16.000 Oh!

00:01:17.000 Oh!

00:01:18.000 Big right in.

00:01:19.000 Letourneau!

00:01:20.000 She shut her lights down for a second there.

00:01:22.000 That's that weird moment when someone's legs give out.

00:01:26.000 Look at this.

00:01:27.000 Empty half.

00:01:28.000 Oh, I like that elbow to the stomach.

00:01:30.000 To the gut.

00:01:31.000 Yeah.

00:01:31.000 You don't see that too often.

00:01:33.000 To the baby maker.

00:01:33.000 The way she's trying to catch the half guard, the girl on the bottom.

00:01:37.000 But you know who stopped Chuck Liddell?

00:01:39.000 Rampage stopped Chuck Liddell with elbows to the body.

00:01:40.000 Remember that?

00:01:41.000 But from side control like that, with a downward elbow right there, you don't see that often.

00:01:45.000 Well, you're not supposed to.

00:01:46.000 Even on the body, you're not even supposed to throw that down.

00:01:48.000 You see knees from there now.

00:01:49.000 So stupid.

00:01:50.000 From side control.

00:01:50.000 You can't even throw a downward elbow to the thigh.

00:01:53.000 No 12 to 6, right?

00:01:55.000 Yeah.

00:01:55.000 That's illegal.

00:01:56.000 That's so stupid.

00:01:57.000 It's so stupid.

00:01:58.000 Super old school rule.

00:01:58.000 Do we have a seat for young Tate Fletcher?

00:02:00.000 It's an old school rule, wasn't it, Joe?

00:02:03.000 Because they were saying a karate move was breaking, right?

00:02:06.000 This is a true story.

00:02:07.000 Breaking boards 12 to 6. That shit's so dangerous.

00:02:11.000 It was actually the Athletic Commission when John McCarthy met with them.

00:02:15.000 Big John McCarthy way back in the day.

00:02:17.000 He told me this.

00:02:18.000 They were so scared because they had seen ESPN like 2 o'clock in the morning, white dudes breaking cinder blocks.

00:02:25.000 With elbows, so lame.

00:02:27.000 Can you do that any other way though?

00:02:30.000 Is that the most powerful fucking strike?

00:02:33.000 No, a heel, a spinning heel kick will knock you into the next dimension.

00:02:37.000 But can you break the same kind of shit they break with their elbows with other parts of your body?

00:02:41.000 It's just not there.

00:02:42.000 Your heel or shin.

00:02:44.000 There's nothing tougher than your heel and shin.

00:02:46.000 Your heel doesn't hurt.

00:02:48.000 Like you can kick someone in the head with your heel And it doesn't hurt.

00:02:52.000 Yeah.

00:02:52.000 Like, you break the shit out of your hands.

00:02:54.000 When was the last time you ever heard of someone breaking their heel by kicking someone?

00:02:57.000 Look at this girl's got some pretty clever jiu-jitsu, man.

00:02:59.000 Inverted triangle?

00:03:00.000 Look at this, she's only got the head in there, but this bitch can't breathe.

00:03:03.000 Valerie Naterno, I shouldn't say bitch, because I do work for this organization.

00:03:07.000 Be professional.

00:03:09.000 That's a really weird position.

00:03:10.000 It's not doing anything.

00:03:12.000 It's just control.

00:03:12.000 It's not necessarily doing anything, but people have gone out from no arm triangles.

00:03:17.000 That's a fact.

00:03:18.000 People have gone unconscious.

00:03:19.000 If you have a good squeeze and you have short legs...

00:03:22.000 You need something else in there, though.

00:03:23.000 Most of the time.

00:03:24.000 You really need an arm in there.

00:03:25.000 You should shut the fuck up right now, probably.

00:03:28.000 Sorry, man.

00:03:29.000 Are you sure she could be pushing it down on her knee?

00:03:30.000 No, you don't know anything.

00:03:31.000 I do.

00:03:32.000 You don't know.

00:03:32.000 But you know, one thing that does work, though, is the fucking leg scissors.

00:03:36.000 People do go to sleep with that leg scissors.

00:03:37.000 I agree.

00:03:38.000 Leg scissors, yeah.

00:03:39.000 I agree.

00:03:39.000 This is different, though.

00:03:41.000 It is different.

00:03:41.000 This upper triangle is a little different, especially at a high level.

00:03:43.000 You're not fucking seeing anyone like that.

00:03:45.000 Right, but as Valerie Letourneau, she had a high level with jiu-jitsu.

00:03:48.000 I know her striking's really good.

00:03:49.000 She could go for a leg scissor right here if she untriangled her legs.

00:03:52.000 Scissors are a different animal.

00:03:53.000 Her fucking head is stuck under the chin, though.

00:03:55.000 Look at that.

00:03:55.000 That's nasty.

00:03:57.000 She's stretching her neck out.

00:03:58.000 That bitch is going to be taller after this fight.

00:03:59.000 Whenever I'm caught in something like that.

00:04:00.000 Call her bitch again.

00:04:03.000 I can't help it.

00:04:04.000 Here comes a chin.

00:04:05.000 It's like a birth.

00:04:06.000 It's like a birth.

00:04:07.000 Dude, she's in trouble.

00:04:09.000 Anytime I'm caught in something like this and I can't get my head out, my main goal, if I can't get my head out, is to do the exact same thing to them.

00:04:16.000 And it's like, dude, I got you too.

00:04:18.000 You guys want to let go together?

00:04:19.000 Let's let go together.

00:04:20.000 Took the word right out of my mouth, Eddie.

00:04:21.000 Yeah.

00:04:22.000 This girl is not letting go, man.

00:04:23.000 This is really interesting.

00:04:24.000 That's a lot of energy on your legs, too.

00:04:27.000 It is?

00:04:28.000 What are they doing?

00:04:29.000 Are they stopping it?

00:04:30.000 It's over.

00:04:30.000 They're not standing them up.

00:04:31.000 What are they doing?

00:04:32.000 End of the round.

00:04:33.000 Oh, I was about to say.

00:04:34.000 Oh my god, I'll be...

00:04:35.000 Fram oil filtered!

00:04:36.000 Oil shades done right!

00:04:37.000 The Fram cam!

00:04:39.000 The Fram cam!

00:04:40.000 I appreciate what you were saying.

00:04:41.000 I missed it.

00:04:42.000 Don't let him talk about jiu-jitsu.

00:04:45.000 You don't know a fucking thing.

00:04:47.000 That's why I butter my chin before I fight.

00:04:49.000 My chin is always buttery.

00:04:50.000 I always, always butter my chin.

00:04:53.000 Is that beer?

00:04:54.000 Yeah, yeah, it's beer, man.

00:04:56.000 Uh-oh, the Indian's out.

00:04:57.000 Grass-fed butter.

00:04:58.000 Not yet.

00:04:59.000 I think you need a bottle opener, brother.

00:05:01.000 Hold on a second.

00:05:02.000 I saw you the other day at the store, but I didn't say anything.

00:05:06.000 Hey, Brian, you're on the microphone.

00:05:08.000 You know this is a podcast.

00:05:09.000 Yeah, man, but I'm talking to my boy Tate Fletcher.

00:05:10.000 He and I have a connection.

00:05:11.000 Aubrey, your boy from Texas, Daniel Jolly.

00:05:15.000 Brian, Jamie, do we have a...

00:05:17.000 Tough.

00:05:18.000 Tough first fight.

00:05:19.000 That's a hell of a first fight to give somebody, too.

00:05:22.000 They're both newcomers, though.

00:05:23.000 This Latvian dude who looks like a killer.

00:05:27.000 They were tough.

00:05:28.000 I went to college with Daniel Jolly.

00:05:30.000 Oh, look at that right hand.

00:05:31.000 Nice right hand.

00:05:32.000 I'll tell you what, though.

00:05:32.000 That girl did recover, and that was a funky position she had Valerie in.

00:05:36.000 Boom!

00:05:37.000 Damn.

00:05:42.000 Man, I am so fired up for December 12th.

00:05:45.000 You guys should all make a point of let's all try to head out to Vegas for the December 12th event.

00:05:51.000 That's a mad event, dude.

00:05:53.000 Chris Weidman.

00:05:54.000 Chris Weidman takes on Luke Rockhold.

00:05:57.000 Robbie Lawler takes on Carlos Condit.

00:06:00.000 And Aldo and McGregor, which probably won't happen.

00:06:02.000 No, Lawler-Condit's in Australia.

00:06:04.000 Oh, that's right.

00:06:05.000 It's not Lawler-Condit.

00:06:06.000 What is it?

00:06:06.000 It's the other one.

00:06:06.000 Yeah, Conor McGregor, Aldo.

00:06:08.000 But there's one other fight.

00:06:09.000 There's one other big fight on there.

00:06:10.000 Jacare.

00:06:11.000 Hold on.

00:06:12.000 I'll read that for you.

00:06:13.000 Hold on.

00:06:13.000 That might be right.

00:06:14.000 Jacareo Romero?

00:06:15.000 Is it that?

00:06:16.000 That's a motherfucking fight.

00:06:18.000 I'll tell you right now.

00:06:19.000 Dude, we should do a fight companion from there, Joe.

00:06:22.000 Fuck yeah.

00:06:23.000 On a Friday.

00:06:24.000 Yeah.

00:06:25.000 Yeah.

00:06:25.000 For the biggest card of the year.

00:06:26.000 That would be awesome.

00:06:29.000 Okay, hold on a second.

00:06:30.000 I'll tell you exactly what it is.

00:06:32.000 Okay, here it is.

00:06:33.000 Why do you want to rock hold?

00:06:46.000 I don't agree with that fight, the Holly Holm fight.

00:06:48.000 I just don't think that's smart.

00:06:49.000 I would have gone with Amanda Nunes before Holly Holm.

00:06:52.000 Amanda Nunes looked like a badass Badass.

00:06:54.000 She sure knocked out Sarah McMahon.

00:06:57.000 That's a more dangerous fighter.

00:06:58.000 It's a more marketable fighter.

00:07:00.000 I get it, though.

00:07:01.000 What do you do?

00:07:02.000 I think that's a good fight.

00:07:04.000 You know, all you're doing is, because when Ronda leaves, you need people to know these other girls, so basically you're just putting all these marketing dollars into these girls.

00:07:10.000 They're going to get their ass whooped.

00:07:11.000 What are you going to do?

00:07:12.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:07:13.000 So at least when Ronda leaves, we're like, oh yeah!

00:07:15.000 That's Holly Holmes!

00:07:16.000 She thought Ronda got her neck snapped off.

00:07:18.000 Amanda Nunez looks so impressive.

00:07:19.000 She definitely has a better stand-up than Ronda, right?

00:07:23.000 I disagree.

00:07:24.000 You disagree?

00:07:25.000 Non-mixed martial arts.

00:07:26.000 Really?

00:07:26.000 I would say, too, as a boxer, best boxer in the world, probably.

00:07:29.000 In the world?

00:07:30.000 Yeah, as a woman.

00:07:31.000 But the deal is, in boxing, it's a lot of point fighting.

00:07:35.000 It's like point karate, and so...

00:07:36.000 Is there knockout power in those hands, and Ronda has it, and Holly's been doing a different kind of sport for a long time.

00:07:42.000 I agree 100% with Tate.

00:07:43.000 Like, if it was boxing, yeah, man, now we gotta fight.

00:07:46.000 She's only the best boxer in the world for women if Ann Wolfe decides to still not box.

00:07:51.000 Ann Wolfe will break a bitch's face.

00:07:54.000 She might be 40 or whatever the fuck she is, but if Ann Wolfe decides to run through a training camp, tell you what, man, that is one chick that, as a dude, I would not want to get punched by.

00:08:04.000 She's ferocious.

00:08:05.000 I'll slap a bitch.

00:08:06.000 I don't care who Ronda fights, really.

00:08:08.000 I just want to see her fight.

00:08:11.000 I just want to see her fight.

00:08:12.000 Tell me you're not going to be interested and excited to see Holly Holm against Ronda.

00:08:15.000 I want to see it.

00:08:16.000 If she demolishes her in a minute, fuck, that's a great fight.

00:08:19.000 I guess, man.

00:08:20.000 If that's your cup of tea...

00:08:21.000 Look at Mike Tyson with...

00:08:23.000 Bruce Seldon.

00:08:25.000 Bruce Seldon.

00:08:26.000 Frank Bruno.

00:08:28.000 Trevor Burbix.

00:08:29.000 All those guys.

00:08:31.000 At least those guys were world class though, my man.

00:08:33.000 That's true.

00:08:34.000 Ronda competing is like Usain Bolt going to the Special Olympics running track.

00:08:38.000 They were world class against opposition that wasn't Mike Tyson.

00:08:43.000 You know what I mean?

00:08:44.000 Mike Tyson made all those guys.

00:08:45.000 They were really terrified in the ring.

00:08:48.000 He went right through them all.

00:08:49.000 He looks just like Ronda.

00:08:50.000 But they were legit world-class fighters.

00:08:52.000 Bruce Seldon?

00:08:53.000 Yes.

00:08:54.000 A lot of them were former world champs to get to that point.

00:08:55.000 Bruce Seldon was a legit world-class heavyweight.

00:08:57.000 Henry Tillman?

00:08:58.000 You're talking about Olympians?

00:08:59.000 Yeah, they were really good fighters, man.

00:09:00.000 The real problem with those guys is that they were fighting Tyson.

00:09:04.000 The real problem with Ronda is Ronda is like a Mike Tyson.

00:09:07.000 She's elite of the elite.

00:09:09.000 Katzingano's good.

00:09:10.000 She's good.

00:09:11.000 Alexis Davis is good.

00:09:12.000 Those girls are good.

00:09:14.000 They're good.

00:09:15.000 They're good.

00:09:16.000 She's great.

00:09:17.000 Are the girls better than them out there?

00:09:19.000 No.

00:09:20.000 They're among the best, then.

00:09:21.000 This is what we got.

00:09:22.000 Well, they're amongst the best in...

00:09:26.000 See, if you look at...

00:09:27.000 There's some girls.

00:09:28.000 Like, I think Amanda Nunes has real potential.

00:09:31.000 She has real potential.

00:09:32.000 If you look at Klaudia.

00:09:34.000 Klaudia Gidea.

00:09:35.000 She's world-class.

00:09:36.000 Yes.

00:09:36.000 Right?

00:09:37.000 Klaudia Gedalia is dangerous.

00:09:38.000 Ioana Jacek, world-class.

00:09:40.000 There's a few.

00:09:41.000 Cyborg, steroids or no steroids, you know, take away all that controversy, just go based on her performances, ferocious, terrifying, world-class, dangerous fighter.

00:09:51.000 That's four.

00:09:52.000 What is she saying lately, Cyborg?

00:09:54.000 What's going on with her?

00:09:54.000 What's the latest shit?

00:09:56.000 Cyborg, whoever the fuck her manager is, she needs to fire that person.

00:09:59.000 100%.

00:10:00.000 She needs to just lose weight, get on a scale, show, here I am, I make 135, Rhonda, that bell is my, you bitch.

00:10:07.000 That's it.

00:10:08.000 But what about your idea?

00:10:09.000 I'm not gonna try and steal your idea.

00:10:10.000 What about Misha Tate, cyborg catchweight?

00:10:13.000 Why the fuck Misha's not screaming for this?

00:10:15.000 I have no idea.

00:10:15.000 You know what?

00:10:16.000 I've been thinking about that.

00:10:17.000 Fuck a catchweight.

00:10:18.000 If that chick wants to fight at 135, prove you can make 135. I've been saying this, but you guys jumped all over me.

00:10:24.000 Yeah, I thought about it.

00:10:25.000 And now I honeydicked my way up.

00:10:27.000 You know what, 140's cool.

00:10:30.000 I like that.

00:10:31.000 I like Rousey Holm and Cyborg Misha on the same card.

00:10:35.000 Yes, because the fans really don't know Cyborg.

00:10:37.000 They really don't know who she is.

00:10:39.000 And if she goes in there and mops Misha Tate, which I don't think she does, I think she loses to Misha.

00:10:43.000 Just saying.

00:10:44.000 She could easily lose to Misha at 135. I think she does.

00:10:47.000 135 is a different animal for Cyborg.

00:10:48.000 Not only that, it's a different animal now because no IVs.

00:10:52.000 Oh, and if you get caught with IV, two-year ban, homie.

00:10:55.000 Two-year ban.

00:10:56.000 Two-year ban if you use an IV to rehydrate.

00:10:58.000 Whoa.

00:10:59.000 You did a podcast with the guy.

00:11:00.000 Jeff Nowitzki.

00:11:01.000 Who was that?

00:11:01.000 You?

00:11:02.000 Nope.

00:11:02.000 Who was that?

00:11:03.000 You?

00:11:03.000 How dare all of you.

00:11:05.000 Why...

00:11:05.000 Did he talk about how you get...

00:11:08.000 It was me, I'm sorry.

00:11:10.000 Did he address the fact that it's dangerous for the fighters?

00:11:12.000 Well, he said, there's actually some studies that show that it's more effective to rehydrate with water, with drinking it orally.

00:11:19.000 I've not looked into that.

00:11:21.000 But he said not in extreme cases, though, Joe.

00:11:24.000 He goes, our athletes are extreme.

00:11:25.000 He goes, that's for the average person who's dehydrated.

00:11:28.000 Mouth orals better.

00:11:29.000 But for extreme cases, IV's better.

00:11:31.000 If you have a doctor's note, you can get it.

00:11:33.000 After that podcast, I'm a huge Jeff Nowitzki.

00:11:37.000 Huge fan.

00:11:38.000 I was like, damn, this dude is legit.

00:11:40.000 He's 100% legit.

00:11:41.000 People are fucked.

00:11:42.000 Oh, he busted Lance Armstrong.

00:11:44.000 He busted, well, sort of busted Barry Bonds, because Barry Bonds got...

00:11:47.000 That was one thing we found out after the podcast.

00:11:49.000 He was recently acquitted on all charges.

00:11:52.000 They didn't catch Barry on anything.

00:11:54.000 Yeah, they wasted all that money.

00:11:56.000 He was making out some big message they were sending to the children.

00:11:59.000 I was like, alright, whatever with all that.

00:12:02.000 Let's not think about kids.

00:12:03.000 We're talking about adult professional athletes.

00:12:06.000 They just wanted to screw Barry Bonds over.

00:12:08.000 Well, what they were doing was they were trying to prosecute.

00:12:12.000 What they do is they have a mandate.

00:12:14.000 Someone tells them to prosecute, and they have to prosecute.

00:12:16.000 What's up with that girl's shorts, by the way, on the left?

00:12:18.000 You don't like them?

00:12:19.000 This is like a combination of...

00:12:21.000 Like, tie shorts and, like, short shorts.

00:12:23.000 She's got something under them, Joe.

00:12:25.000 What?

00:12:25.000 Underwear?

00:12:26.000 She's got, like, booty shorts under those.

00:12:27.000 What I never understood was why Congress cared about steroids.

00:12:30.000 That never made any sense to me at all.

00:12:32.000 Tremendous waste of money.

00:12:34.000 Tax-based money.

00:12:34.000 None of them are athletes.

00:12:35.000 And Nowitzki was very, uh...

00:12:37.000 Well, that's the funniest thing about the congressional thing, was listening to Joe Biden talk about how back when he was an athlete...

00:12:43.000 Bitch, please.

00:12:44.000 I always wondered if a guy was on something.

00:12:47.000 Oh, I'm sure, Joe.

00:12:48.000 My God-given talent.

00:12:50.000 He's so gross.

00:12:52.000 Joe Biden's disgusting.

00:12:53.000 George Bush mentioned steroids in the State of the Union.

00:12:56.000 People always forget that Joe Biden's a plagiarist, by the way.

00:12:58.000 Yep, he sure is.

00:12:59.000 They forget that Joe Biden...

00:13:00.000 We used to do a Joe Biden night.

00:13:01.000 Cheered on his law school exam, right?

00:13:03.000 Yeah, well not just that.

00:13:04.000 He plagiarized Kennedy's speeches when he was running for president back in 88. When we were at Stitch's Comedy Club in Boston, we used to do a Joe Biden night in the 80s, where comics would go up.

00:13:14.000 Like, I would do your material, you would do my material.

00:13:16.000 We'd do each other's shit.

00:13:17.000 We'd call it Joe Biden night.

00:13:19.000 Now, how does someone like that, how does someone like that, and someone like Hillary Clinton, forget about the email stuff, but all the stuff she did with Bill Clinton with that Whitewater stuff?

00:13:29.000 Oh yeah, it's terrifying.

00:13:30.000 How about all that stuff?

00:13:32.000 How are they still like candidates?

00:13:34.000 You need to read the book, The Strange Death of Vince Foster.

00:13:37.000 Vince Foster was one of the people that was involved in the Whitewater scandal.

00:13:41.000 Jesus Christ.

00:13:42.000 Shot himself in a park, okay?

00:13:46.000 Had the gun still in his hand, which never fucking happens.

00:13:51.000 Every single expert will tell you, when you shoot yourself in the head, your body goes, wah!

00:13:56.000 And that gun goes flying.

00:13:57.000 He's still got the gun in his hand.

00:13:58.000 No blood at the scene of the crime.

00:14:00.000 It's a message.

00:14:00.000 His body had been moved.

00:14:02.000 100% his body had been moved.

00:14:04.000 Conspiracy.

00:14:04.000 That's a message.

00:14:05.000 That ain't even a conspiracy.

00:14:08.000 That's gangster.

00:14:08.000 That's what gangsters do.

00:14:09.000 They don't want to just kill a body and have them disappear.

00:14:11.000 They want to leave a message.

00:14:13.000 You're going to try to bust us?

00:14:14.000 We're coming after you.

00:14:15.000 Keep this shit out of court.

00:14:16.000 You and your family are dead.

00:14:18.000 Makes sense.

00:14:19.000 Eddie Bravo just went into fucking conspiracy mode.

00:14:21.000 Here we go!

00:14:22.000 Beer, conspiracy mode.

00:14:25.000 Keep the weed under wraps, Jamie!

00:14:28.000 Under wraps!

00:14:30.000 How about Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush are both candidates for the presidency of the United States?

00:14:35.000 This is how much Eddie Bravo loves conspiracies.

00:14:39.000 These criminals!

00:14:39.000 This girl's in full guard, and he's not even talking about jiu-jitsu.

00:14:42.000 Doesn't give a fuck.

00:14:43.000 If she went up to Michigan draw, shut the fuck up.

00:14:45.000 Ha ha ha!

00:14:52.000 I'm pissed because I didn't get that joke.

00:14:54.000 I don't see why after that Ben Saunders fight, everybody's not doing that.

00:14:58.000 Well, you know what?

00:14:58.000 I got a message today.

00:14:59.000 It was really interesting.

00:15:00.000 It's the jiu-jitsu coaches of the MMA camps.

00:15:03.000 They decide what they're going to train in.

00:15:06.000 What was the message, Joe?

00:15:08.000 If they don't make that decision to stick that into training, let's work a little bit on this elbows from Mission Control.

00:15:14.000 Look at this.

00:15:15.000 Look what she's trying to do here.

00:15:17.000 She's trying to wrap her leg and stick her foot underneath the armpit of Letourneau, who's on the bottom or on the top.

00:15:22.000 Dude, I wish she gave up on him, but look, she keeps driving.

00:15:26.000 Oh, Triangle City!

00:15:27.000 Oh, damn.

00:15:29.000 All she's got to do is squeeze her legs, leg curls, pull the head.

00:15:33.000 She needs to control the head.

00:15:34.000 Grab the shin.

00:15:36.000 It's just grab the head at this point.

00:15:39.000 Oh, but look at...

00:15:39.000 Laterno thinks she's safe by tucking her arm under like that.

00:15:42.000 Oh, man.

00:15:42.000 Definitely not, though.

00:15:43.000 That shit doesn't work.

00:15:44.000 Especially like this.

00:15:45.000 Oh, you get the squeeze.

00:15:47.000 You'll get the squeeze.

00:15:47.000 No, it's not going to happen.

00:15:49.000 I wish in between rounds they'd have highlights.

00:15:51.000 It would already happen.

00:15:51.000 Oh, wow.

00:15:52.000 Nice.

00:15:52.000 Nice escape.

00:15:53.000 I wish they'd show the previous fights.

00:15:55.000 Like, just a quick highlight in between rounds.

00:15:56.000 Laterno's a nasty striker, man.

00:15:58.000 She's got good technique.

00:15:59.000 You see the way she moves?

00:16:00.000 Very loose and relaxed.

00:16:02.000 Good, like, variation in her speed.

00:16:06.000 She counters well, too.

00:16:07.000 She just keeps her head down, chin down, just pow, pow!

00:16:11.000 I think, and I'm beginning to listen to Nick Curzon about this, I think a giant part of what holds fighters back is strength and conditioning.

00:16:20.000 I used to think that it's more important to work on skills than anything, and I think up to a certain point it is, but now I think what holds these people back is like Letourneau right now.

00:16:30.000 I see a slower fighter than I saw in the first round.

00:16:33.000 I see some significant slowing, and she's having a hard time executing.

00:16:39.000 I agree.

00:16:39.000 It depends on your skill level.

00:16:41.000 Yes.

00:16:41.000 It depends on your skill level.

00:16:42.000 You should focus more on strength condition and get in shape so you can show your skills for three rounds, 15 minutes.

00:16:47.000 Right.

00:16:47.000 In the first minute, two minutes of a fight, it's all about your skills.

00:16:50.000 But then as fights go on, it's all about how much conditioning do you have in the tank to use those skills.

00:16:55.000 And nerves.

00:16:56.000 It's all about...

00:16:57.000 How quickly you can recover and can your body recover multiple times?

00:17:01.000 And you'd think at an elite level they would be able to go 25 minutes.

00:17:06.000 Most can.

00:17:07.000 At a very high level most can.

00:17:08.000 They don't seem gassed, they seem a little...

00:17:10.000 Well they're slower.

00:17:11.000 They're slower for sure.

00:17:12.000 But they're still like Dos Anjos.

00:17:15.000 When we saw Dos Anjos fight Pettis, that motherfucker kept that same pace for five rounds.

00:17:20.000 He was guns a-blazin' for five rounds.

00:17:22.000 Dude, look at Demetrius Johnson against Ali Bagatinov.

00:17:25.000 Ali Bagatinov was on EPO! And he outworked that motherfucker.

00:17:29.000 TJ Dillashaw, same thing.

00:17:30.000 Yep, exactly.

00:17:31.000 Same thing.

00:17:31.000 He put a clinic on Burrell.

00:17:33.000 You think TJ Dillashaw, Mighty Mouse would happen?

00:17:36.000 Can't happen?

00:17:37.000 I think that would be a great fight.

00:17:39.000 Why?

00:17:39.000 It's only ten pounds.

00:17:41.000 Mighty Mouse has fought 135. He fought Dominic Cruz.

00:17:43.000 He lost to Dominic Cruz.

00:17:45.000 Yep.

00:17:45.000 I think that T.J. Dillshaw is one of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world.

00:17:48.000 I think that fight with Hennon Burrell was like a wake-up call to everybody.

00:17:51.000 He beat the fucking shit out of Hennon Burrell.

00:17:54.000 What's next for T.J.? He beat the fucking shit out of him.

00:17:57.000 Like he owned him from the moment.

00:17:58.000 It wasn't even a fight, really.

00:17:59.000 It wasn't a fight.

00:18:00.000 It was a clinic.

00:18:01.000 What's next with TJ? Dominic Cruz?

00:18:03.000 Dominic Cruz.

00:18:04.000 Cruz's knee doesn't fall off.

00:18:06.000 Everything.

00:18:07.000 His knee, like...

00:18:08.000 He breaks his hands all the time.

00:18:11.000 So you can't count on that.

00:18:12.000 I'd love to see that fight.

00:18:13.000 That's going to be a huge fight.

00:18:15.000 And Dominic is natural.

00:18:16.000 He's all natural.

00:18:17.000 And he's in his 30s.

00:18:19.000 At 135 pounds, traditionally, especially in boxing, once you hit the 30s...

00:18:24.000 Tough, man.

00:18:25.000 NFL running backs, too.

00:18:27.000 You rely on speed and reflexes more than anybody.

00:18:30.000 Because they're so fast.

00:18:31.000 You look at Mighty Mouse and Dodson.

00:18:33.000 Holy shit, that's going to be a blur.

00:18:35.000 That fight's going to be...

00:18:36.000 Dodson is a legit threat, though.

00:18:40.000 He's a legit threat.

00:18:42.000 Dodson can knock out anybody.

00:18:43.000 He knocked out TJ. People don't forget about that.

00:18:45.000 On The Ultimate Fighter.

00:18:46.000 Fuck yeah, he did.

00:18:47.000 He beat the shit out of TJ. He did.

00:18:49.000 Different TJ for sure.

00:18:50.000 Totally different TJ. There's TJ pre and post bang.

00:18:56.000 True.

00:18:56.000 It's tough, man, because no one loves fighting more than us, right?

00:18:59.000 But that frickin' Dotson vs.

00:19:05.000 Johnson fight, it's a tough sell, man.

00:19:07.000 Like, I'm not like, ooh, I can't fucking wait to see them throw down.

00:19:10.000 It's different.

00:19:10.000 And those guys are more talented than anyone.

00:19:12.000 It's because you're a sizist.

00:19:15.000 You might be right.

00:19:16.000 You're a sizist!

00:19:17.000 Hey, me and the entire world then, apparently.

00:19:20.000 No problem.

00:19:21.000 Because he's not selling pay-per-views.

00:19:22.000 Do we got another round of this?

00:19:23.000 Are his shows among the worst?

00:19:25.000 You're a sizist.

00:19:26.000 Like, real bad?

00:19:28.000 Not good.

00:19:29.000 It's tough, man.

00:19:29.000 He's the most talented guy in the UFC. It's just people, it's hard for people to jump on board on a small guy.

00:19:34.000 Like, he got denied access to another club.

00:19:37.000 He's the frickin' multi-time world champion of the UFC. They thought he was 15?

00:19:41.000 They had a height limit?

00:19:42.000 I don't know what they had.

00:19:43.000 No, there was just a lot of people that didn't know who he was.

00:19:45.000 You know those lines in Vegas?

00:19:46.000 Nobody gets in those fucking lines.

00:19:48.000 Oh, they didn't recognize him.

00:19:49.000 Yeah, they didn't recognize him.

00:19:51.000 Yeah, those lines are bullshit.

00:19:51.000 It's a bummer, man.

00:19:53.000 Because he's so talented.

00:19:54.000 He needs a couple more good fights like Dodson.

00:19:57.000 No, he needs an arch-rifle.

00:19:58.000 He needs someone to talk about.

00:19:59.000 He needs a Conor McGregor, a 125. Pearson Felder?

00:20:02.000 Holy shit.

00:20:03.000 Great fight.

00:20:05.000 Felder, I'm a huge fan of that dude.

00:20:07.000 Yeah, he's a beast.

00:20:08.000 Holy fuck.

00:20:08.000 Yeah, he's fun to watch.

00:20:09.000 That guy...

00:20:10.000 He throws strikes from everywhere.

00:20:11.000 Especially after that Barboza fight.

00:20:13.000 God damn.

00:20:14.000 The fact that he went the distance with him.

00:20:18.000 Oh yeah.

00:20:18.000 He went the distance with him and Barboza was kicking the shit out of his body.

00:20:22.000 That switch kick.

00:20:22.000 That switch kick is the fastest switch kick I've ever seen in my life.

00:20:26.000 Ever.

00:20:27.000 Ever.

00:20:28.000 Remember Jamie Varner was talking about how before, and he beat him, but before that he was the most scared he's ever been before a fight?

00:20:36.000 That's a scary fight.

00:20:37.000 Against Barboza?

00:20:38.000 When Joe Silva calls him and said, you want Barboza?

00:20:41.000 There's a couple guys where you get that call and you're like, oh shit, I guess I'll take it.

00:20:45.000 Think about that Terry Edom fight with that wheel kick to the head, first wheel kick KO in the UFC. And then you gotta fight him next?

00:20:50.000 Yeah.

00:20:51.000 Jesus.

00:20:52.000 His kicks, he's the only guy to ever stop two fighters with leg kicks.

00:20:56.000 He's nasty, man.

00:20:57.000 Mike Lulo and Rafael Oliveira, both with leg kicks.

00:20:59.000 I'm not going to rat the guy out, but super high-level guy.

00:21:02.000 Super high-level guy.

00:21:03.000 My manager goes, Brendan, I want you in on this call.

00:21:06.000 This is the best part of my job.

00:21:07.000 Watch this, bro.

00:21:08.000 Just got this huge fight announcement.

00:21:10.000 He's texting Joe Silva.

00:21:11.000 Watch this.

00:21:12.000 We're in a hotel.

00:21:13.000 Calls him on speed dial.

00:21:14.000 He goes, my man!

00:21:16.000 Got a fight for you.

00:21:17.000 Who said this?

00:21:18.000 Alexander Gustafson.

00:21:20.000 September whatever.

00:21:22.000 And he's all, wait, wait.

00:21:23.000 And the guy goes...

00:21:24.000 Ah, shit, really?

00:21:26.000 He goes, yeah, man.

00:21:27.000 He goes, ah, fuck.

00:21:29.000 Well, let's get this paper.

00:21:30.000 Hangs up the phone.

00:21:31.000 My manager's all, ah, fuck, man.

00:21:34.000 Your boy's gonna lose for sure.

00:21:35.000 Let's get this paper.

00:21:36.000 He goes, ah.

00:21:37.000 Let's get this paper.

00:21:38.000 His first reaction goes, ah, fuck.

00:21:41.000 How do I solve that?

00:21:42.000 Yeah.

00:21:42.000 How do I solve that?

00:21:43.000 Can't tell you, man.

00:21:44.000 I'm not gonna sell the guy out.

00:21:45.000 Big, long, tall motherfucker.

00:21:46.000 And how long ago was this?

00:21:48.000 It was TJ, before they had weight classes.

00:21:50.000 It was TJ Dillashaw.

00:21:51.000 It was so funny, man.

00:21:53.000 He was in Japan.

00:21:53.000 He was so heartbroken.

00:21:55.000 That's crazy.

00:21:56.000 Yeah, that's the thing about the UFC and MMA in general.

00:22:00.000 Like, there's a lot of fighters that they jump into the UFC, and they're starting to have some success.

00:22:05.000 Well, there's a very short climb until you're in world-class territory, and if you beat one of those motherfuckers...

00:22:11.000 Off to the races!

00:22:12.000 B-shop style!

00:22:13.000 You're in...

00:22:14.000 B-shop stop.

00:22:16.000 I thought Chris Tush's shirt and they're like, oh cool, here's Gonzaga.

00:22:18.000 I was like, holy fuck, man.

00:22:20.000 Easy, bro.

00:22:21.000 I have five fights.

00:22:24.000 What's up, Brad?

00:22:25.000 Who's that?

00:22:26.000 Stanley Coppin.

00:22:27.000 Brad!

00:22:27.000 Dallas, Tampa.

00:22:28.000 Excuse me, sir, is that an affliction shirt?

00:22:30.000 Yes, it is.

00:22:31.000 He's an hockey player, man.

00:22:32.000 I don't know anything about it.

00:22:33.000 God damn it.

00:22:33.000 It's about ice and there's a black puck, I think they call it.

00:22:37.000 You gotta get it in the net and when they do it, you can go crazy.

00:22:39.000 And live, when you see it live, it's incredible.

00:22:40.000 This is a good fight, man.

00:22:41.000 This is a dope fight.

00:22:42.000 Oliver, Aubin Mercier is amazing.

00:22:44.000 No, no, no.

00:22:45.000 Tony Simms is from Denver.

00:22:47.000 He's older.

00:22:47.000 He's been boxing since he was like six.

00:22:49.000 He got in the UFC super late, man.

00:22:51.000 This is his second short fight in a row.

00:22:53.000 I'm telling you, this kid is a monster.

00:22:55.000 Tough fight for him, though, either way.

00:22:57.000 Hey, give me one of them beers there, Mr. Callum.

00:22:59.000 Yeah, sure.

00:22:59.000 I want mine a little wobbly pop, Callum.

00:23:02.000 You'll hear me going, Olivier.

00:23:03.000 I'm excited about this main event, man.

00:23:05.000 Eddie, we got the bet on the main event or what, bro?

00:23:08.000 You honeydicked me.

00:23:09.000 That's illegal.

00:23:11.000 No, we did co-main event.

00:23:12.000 I got Neil Magny.

00:23:13.000 You got Eric Silva, remember?

00:23:14.000 But you honeydicked me, man.

00:23:15.000 Doesn't matter.

00:23:15.000 Hold on.

00:23:17.000 The people listening to this don't know what we're talking about.

00:23:20.000 Because we had this discussion before the podcast.

00:23:23.000 But Brendan Schaub sent me a photo.

00:23:25.000 And I'm going to take this photo.

00:23:27.000 And I'm going to...

00:23:28.000 I'll show it to you guys.

00:23:32.000 But this is the difference.

00:23:34.000 You can find this photo online.

00:23:35.000 This is the difference between Eric Silva...

00:23:38.000 A while ago and Eric Silva now.

00:23:40.000 A fan said that to me.

00:23:41.000 Honeydicking should be like steroids.

00:23:43.000 You know what I mean?

00:23:43.000 That shit should be bad.

00:23:45.000 You know what I mean?

00:23:46.000 Look at the photo on the top.

00:23:47.000 That's him now.

00:23:48.000 Look at the photo on the bottom.

00:23:49.000 Oh, I got honeydicked.

00:23:50.000 No, you got Eric Silva, bro.

00:23:51.000 Are you suggesting?

00:23:52.000 Can I see that, please?

00:23:52.000 This is the suggestion.

00:23:53.000 Oh, no!

00:23:54.000 Oh, God, no!

00:23:57.000 That was quick, though.

00:23:58.000 That was beer and a laptop.

00:24:00.000 I've just been thinking about getting a new laptop.

00:24:03.000 I'm really thinking.

00:24:04.000 Oh, no, that's $1,500.

00:24:07.000 What'd you say, Jamie?

00:24:10.000 Anyway, so the suggestion is that it's possible that Eric Silva may or may not have been...

00:24:17.000 Oh, looks like I got lucky here.

00:24:19.000 Good Lord, what a difference.

00:24:21.000 It only got on my screen.

00:24:22.000 God, all I know is I'm getting on the old TRT. I hate to tell you you're still not going to look like that.

00:24:27.000 You don't know.

00:24:28.000 I won't have his hair, I'll tell you that much.

00:24:30.000 You're already 80. You should have done that in the 60s.

00:24:32.000 Guys, I've been taking creatine.

00:24:33.000 That's why I look thicker.

00:24:35.000 He has been taking creatine.

00:24:36.000 Yep.

00:24:37.000 Well that stuff sort of works.

00:24:39.000 It does.

00:24:39.000 It makes your face fat.

00:24:40.000 It does.

00:24:41.000 Adds water weight for sure.

00:24:42.000 I made my face fat.

00:24:43.000 That's what I was telling him.

00:24:44.000 I was like, why is my face fat?

00:24:46.000 I gained five pounds of a face.

00:24:51.000 That is a remarkable difference.

00:24:53.000 I guess he's just not working at it as hard.

00:24:55.000 Yeah, he changed his diet.

00:24:57.000 He's eating more fatty foods.

00:24:59.000 Maybe more acai or some shit.

00:25:01.000 More acai?

00:25:03.000 Either way, Eddie, you can't back out now, brother.

00:25:06.000 I got Neil Magny, he took the fight on two-week notice.

00:25:11.000 I think Eddie is allowed to back off before the fight actually starts.

00:25:15.000 You know what, I'm not gonna back off.

00:25:17.000 Even with your steroids, I'm gonna do it.

00:25:19.000 I'm gonna go with the honeydicken.

00:25:21.000 Notice how he said your steroids?

00:25:22.000 Like I'm the dealer or something.

00:25:25.000 We'll do it.

00:25:26.000 It's on.

00:25:27.000 Brian, how do you feel about this?

00:25:28.000 I'm excited.

00:25:30.000 You know Eric Silva's the favorite.

00:25:32.000 Yeah, but he looks soft now.

00:25:36.000 He's still a cutie pie.

00:25:38.000 He already had a problem with cardio, right?

00:25:40.000 Yes.

00:25:40.000 He's a monster that first round.

00:25:42.000 He's a ferocious guy, and he expends a lot of energy.

00:25:45.000 When you fight a guy like Matt Brown, that shit is not recommended.

00:25:48.000 Who would you take if you had to bet?

00:25:49.000 The last thing you want to do is be drained.

00:25:51.000 If you had to bet, who would you take right now?

00:25:52.000 I like Magny.

00:25:53.000 I like Magny in that fight because I think Magny is more consistent, and Magny has great endurance, and Magny's only problem that is shown inside the octagon at all is dealing with Damian motherfucking Maia, who is a constrictor.

00:26:05.000 He's a constrictor.

00:26:06.000 That's like you're a chained-up sheep.

00:26:09.000 And this fucking giant anaconda's wrapping its body around you and squeezing it tight.

00:26:14.000 Well, who do you have in the main event, Eddie?

00:26:16.000 I had Holloway, but you didn't want...

00:26:19.000 Me, too.

00:26:19.000 No, I got Holloway, too.

00:26:20.000 Really?

00:26:21.000 That guy's a beast.

00:26:22.000 Okay, I disagree.

00:26:23.000 I got Oliveira.

00:26:24.000 You got $1,000?

00:26:25.000 Yeah, I do have $1,000.

00:26:26.000 Well, why don't you bet Brian Kelly?

00:26:28.000 I'm fairly wealthy.

00:26:30.000 I'll take the bet just to make the...

00:26:34.000 I don't want to take a thousand dollars from a good friend, but I'll bet you 20 bucks just so I could win.

00:26:40.000 All right, what are we betting?

00:26:41.000 Why can't we do 20 dollars?

00:26:43.000 Well, how about we get out of here and you pay?

00:26:46.000 Yeah, let's do dinner.

00:26:46.000 That's a good call.

00:26:48.000 I've got to make sure I can do that.

00:26:49.000 We go get some steak.

00:26:50.000 We've got to make sure.

00:26:51.000 Isn't that gross?

00:26:51.000 We're married.

00:26:52.000 We have kids.

00:26:52.000 This is bullshit.

00:26:54.000 This is bullshit.

00:26:55.000 We're not even masters of our own domain.

00:26:58.000 It's true.

00:26:59.000 I gotta see if I can.

00:27:00.000 Makes me sick.

00:27:00.000 I gotta see if I can do what I want to do.

00:27:02.000 I know.

00:27:03.000 Because my boss, I have to check in with the boss.

00:27:04.000 Well, she's so awesome.

00:27:05.000 She lets me do everything, so, you know.

00:27:07.000 Yeah, no, I get that.

00:27:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:09.000 You're going to dinner, though, huh?

00:27:11.000 Except having dinner.

00:27:12.000 On Sundays, you kinda gotta...

00:27:13.000 I understand.

00:27:14.000 ...put in your time.

00:27:16.000 Alright, so make it 20 bucks.

00:27:17.000 Nah, we'll go to dinner.

00:27:18.000 Oh, okay.

00:27:20.000 Alright.

00:27:21.000 I got bullied into dinner.

00:27:22.000 I have to pay now.

00:27:23.000 But don't get me wrong, Max Holloway can win, and I would not be surprised.

00:27:26.000 He's the favorite.

00:27:27.000 Is he?

00:27:28.000 He's the favorite.

00:27:29.000 Who am I taking?

00:27:29.000 See, I disagree with that.

00:27:31.000 It's a close fight.

00:27:32.000 I think it's a close fight.

00:27:33.000 This is my take on it.

00:27:35.000 I think that Oliveira is a little more tactical, both standing up and on the ground.

00:27:39.000 Better on the ground, I agree.

00:27:41.000 I'll switch it up.

00:27:41.000 I'll take Oliveira.

00:27:42.000 Even standing up.

00:27:43.000 You want to switch up the bet?

00:27:44.000 Switch it up.

00:27:45.000 Double or nothing, I'll forget about the Eric Silva.

00:27:48.000 Well, that one's fun to bet on, too.

00:27:50.000 Well, let's see how...

00:27:51.000 Well, no, no, no.

00:27:51.000 Isn't Oliveira, like, kind of...

00:27:53.000 Wouldn't he be kind of flubby, too?

00:27:55.000 What do you mean?

00:27:55.000 Flubby?

00:27:56.000 Yeah, Oliveira, no?

00:27:57.000 What's flubby?

00:27:59.000 Basically...

00:27:59.000 He's not going to look the same, you're saying?

00:28:01.000 Yes.

00:28:02.000 Nah, he's a really skinny guy.

00:28:03.000 Yeah, he's thin.

00:28:04.000 Yeah, he doesn't look like a Reuter at all.

00:28:07.000 He actually dropped down from 55 to 45. Yeah, he's shredded always.

00:28:11.000 Yeah, I don't think he's a steroid user.

00:28:13.000 You want to switch it up?

00:28:14.000 You take Holloway?

00:28:14.000 Well, let's see after the Neil Magnet fight.

00:28:17.000 We'll do double or nothing, and I'll stick with Holloway.

00:28:19.000 Well, let's, before we, before I ask you this question, before I ask you this question, before I ask you this question, let's think about the possibility of the MMA media blowing us out of proportion, because they always do.

00:28:32.000 TMZ? What, what, it is TMZ now, right?

00:28:34.000 Straight up TMZ. Yahoo!

00:28:35.000 The last fight companion we had had like seven different articles.

00:28:39.000 Dude.

00:28:39.000 Us drunk and stoned, talking shit.

00:28:42.000 I snapshot it, sent it to the rogue and went, oh shit.

00:28:45.000 It just said fuck.

00:28:47.000 Now here's the question.

00:28:48.000 What percentage of the Brazilian jiu-jitsu fighters or Brazilian MMA fighters you think are on steroids?

00:28:56.000 If you had a guess.

00:28:57.000 Freezing.

00:28:57.000 Don't say it.

00:28:58.000 Look at that face.

00:28:59.000 No, you know what?

00:29:02.000 I don't want to just single out Brazilians.

00:29:03.000 I think a majority of the guys are.

00:29:06.000 A majority.

00:29:06.000 But a lot of the Brazilians.

00:29:08.000 So you think it's 90% of all the MMA fighters are on steroids?

00:29:11.000 Correct.

00:29:12.000 What Brazilians do you think are not on steroids?

00:29:15.000 That's a good question.

00:29:16.000 That's ridiculous.

00:29:17.000 Which ones are not?

00:29:19.000 Nogueira for sure, right?

00:29:21.000 Nogueira.

00:29:22.000 He's not.

00:29:23.000 Brandon, why are your eyes so wide?

00:29:25.000 Brandon, why do you look like you've seen a ghost?

00:29:27.000 Little Nog?

00:29:28.000 Why do you look like a fighting jeep?

00:29:29.000 Come on.

00:29:30.000 Let's not do this.

00:29:30.000 Eddie gets me in trouble, man.

00:29:31.000 How do you think we knew the Ronda thing last time?

00:29:34.000 No, it wasn't me.

00:29:35.000 Yeah, it was you.

00:29:36.000 I apologize.

00:29:37.000 I feel so bad.

00:29:38.000 No, seriously, I feel really, really bad for that.

00:29:41.000 The understated thing about the steroids.

00:29:43.000 Was Tate's beard on steroids?

00:29:45.000 The understated thing about the steroids is the mental aspect.

00:29:47.000 These fighters aren't coming out as aggressive.

00:29:50.000 Silva's a destroyer normally, but let's say he was on TRT. What's he going to be now?

00:29:54.000 Is he going to be a little more passive?

00:29:55.000 Completely different game.

00:29:56.000 It's not just the body, it's the mind.

00:29:58.000 People rely on that testosterone for aggression.

00:30:00.000 What we see when everybody came from Pride.

00:30:03.000 Pride is the Killers were like, that's the better show than the UFC athletes.

00:30:07.000 They all came and got beat up by guys that weren't top-tier guys in the UFC. Every one of those Pride athletes.

00:30:13.000 And that's all due to drugs.

00:30:15.000 And that's not abilities or strength, even.

00:30:18.000 I think it's exactly what Aubrey's saying.

00:30:20.000 They're like, who am I without this?

00:30:23.000 Not only that, these guys weren't doing it properly, I'm sure.

00:30:26.000 They didn't take enough time to recover and get their natural test level, so they were probably compromised.

00:30:31.000 So not only were they not on steroids, they were compromised.

00:30:33.000 Because when you look at some of those guys in Pride, we don't need to name names.

00:30:36.000 It's awesome.

00:30:37.000 We don't need to name names.

00:30:38.000 But when they came over, they looked physically different.

00:30:41.000 They looked physically different.

00:30:42.000 You know?

00:30:43.000 I mean, look at Krokop.

00:30:45.000 There's a perfect advantage.

00:30:46.000 Example, Krokop was a goddamn destroyer.

00:30:48.000 I mean, you look at some of the fights that he had, the wear and tear, there's a lot going on, but he just was a different guy when he came to.

00:30:55.000 You could probably look at the amount of high kicks he threw before and after, and it's just he wasn't aggressive enough when he came back.

00:31:01.000 He used to throw that left kick all the time.

00:31:04.000 It was just like...

00:31:05.000 Still fucking him.

00:31:06.000 1FC? Do they care about steroids?

00:31:08.000 1FC? Yeah, they want you on them.

00:31:10.000 For sure?

00:31:10.000 1FC? Yeah.

00:31:11.000 It helps soccer kicks to the face.

00:31:13.000 Steroids are not.

00:31:14.000 Steroids are not.

00:31:14.000 Broke out fucked me up.

00:31:16.000 When is Roger fighting?

00:31:18.000 Coming up soon, I think.

00:31:19.000 September 1st, maybe even.

00:31:21.000 He looks good in training.

00:31:22.000 Look at some of the videos of him hitting pads.

00:31:24.000 I hung out with him in Thailand.

00:31:26.000 It was a trip.

00:31:26.000 He was doing good as a coach.

00:31:27.000 It was a trip.

00:31:28.000 He had fun, man.

00:31:29.000 Right when I got to Thailand, right when I landed, the thing that I tripped out on the most is everybody.

00:31:33.000 I'm in a taxi, and we're getting driven to Tiger Muay Thai, and everybody's on little scooters.

00:31:39.000 Like four people per scooter, kids, they're holding their kids and everyone's riding scooters.

00:31:44.000 And I thought, how insane and scary is this?

00:31:48.000 I end up at Roger Huerta's house a couple nights later.

00:31:52.000 We're hanging out, chilling, and there's like four of us and they said, let's go to the party town down the street.

00:31:58.000 You know, it's like 45 minutes away.

00:32:00.000 We're like, okay, let's go.

00:32:04.000 I'm like, how are we getting there?

00:32:05.000 They go, we're getting on scooters.

00:32:07.000 So I drove, Roger Werther drove me in a scooter, and I'm sitting behind him in a scooter 45 minutes through the hills.

00:32:14.000 Come on, Tony Sims.

00:32:15.000 This fight is starting right now.

00:32:17.000 Auburn Mercier and Sims.

00:32:19.000 Powerful Tony Sims.

00:32:19.000 Four minutes, 53 seconds right now.

00:32:35.000 I'm telling you, Tony Simms boxing is fucking nasty.

00:32:39.000 His boxing is filthy.

00:32:45.000 I'm doing French.

00:32:47.000 You need to have earphones on so you hear how retarded you sound.

00:32:50.000 Yeah, but I'm doing French, bro.

00:32:51.000 I'm helping the French people.

00:32:53.000 You're French fans.

00:32:54.000 Is there meat you could eat that can get you the similar effects as steroids?

00:32:59.000 No.

00:32:59.000 If you just eat nothing but rhino meat or something?

00:33:03.000 Yeah.

00:33:04.000 Don't spread those rumors.

00:33:05.000 Asians will pick up on it and there'll be no rhino blood.

00:33:07.000 Bison testicle.

00:33:08.000 There's got to be something I could eat.

00:33:10.000 Eat a shitload of raw bison testicle.

00:33:11.000 That they can't ban.

00:33:13.000 Oh, you can't eat moose anymore, because it turns out moose shrinks your bones.

00:33:18.000 There's some stuff that has IGF-1 in it, you know, that you can get, but like really good deer antler will have IGF-1 in it.

00:33:25.000 How about you eat cows that are...

00:33:36.000 Do that thing with the antlers there's a guy who ran an elk farm up in Alberta and He got an elk farm just for the deer antler shit.

00:33:46.000 It would take the velvet velvet And the velvet, and the velvet has IGF-1.

00:33:50.000 You spray it in your mouth, and it gives you a benefit, like, similar to taking growth hormone.

00:33:55.000 The market dried up, like, instantaneously.

00:33:58.000 Somehow or another, I don't know what it was.

00:34:00.000 Whether it became too easy to get real growth hormone, or people just stopped using it.

00:34:05.000 I don't know what the fuck happened, but this guy's stuck with a bunch of elk on his land.

00:34:09.000 Every now and then he wanders out there and shoots one and eats it.

00:34:11.000 Spent a million bucks.

00:34:13.000 He's got these fenced-in elk.

00:34:15.000 Yeah, it's just not the most efficient way to do it.

00:34:17.000 Boxing doesn't help you in this position.

00:34:17.000 IGF-1 isn't legal anyways, and so, like, what's the point?

00:34:21.000 Is it legal to take that, if you take that deer antler shit, you can test positive?

00:34:25.000 So, the trick is, is that if you test it and show that it has IGF-1, then it's not illegal.

00:34:30.000 So, you have to do it untested, and then you don't know whether it's got it in there or not.

00:34:34.000 So, it's like this weird cat mouth thing.

00:34:36.000 I'm confused.

00:34:37.000 Well, you're not really allowed to sell IGF-1 over the counter, right?

00:34:41.000 So if you standardize the elk antler to make sure that it has IGF-1, then it's not legal, as far as I understand when I looked into it.

00:34:49.000 So even though it's still just a natural product that contains...

00:34:53.000 IGF-1, so it's illegal no matter what.

00:34:55.000 To sell as a dietary supplement.

00:34:56.000 I mean, you could sell it, but it's not approved as a dietary supplement.

00:35:00.000 So it would be illegal, but you wouldn't test for it.

00:35:02.000 So you could sell antler, but you don't test for it.

00:35:05.000 But then the consumer doesn't know if it's bullshit antler.

00:35:07.000 You can't say anything.

00:35:08.000 You just gotta sell it.

00:35:09.000 Does it have to be new antler, like the velvet on the new antler or something?

00:35:12.000 Well, velvet is when they grow.

00:35:14.000 It only happens when they grow.

00:35:16.000 Unless you have a female that grows antlers, which is very rare.

00:35:19.000 And sometimes they stay in velvet.

00:35:20.000 How the fuck did someone find that out?

00:35:23.000 How did they figure there's IGF-1 in the antlers?

00:35:26.000 What kind of crazy fuck figured that out?

00:35:29.000 I don't know.

00:35:30.000 Some fucking country axe-swinging redneck was just eating antlers.

00:35:34.000 And just shredded.

00:35:35.000 It's like, shit!

00:35:36.000 This dick was just nine feet.

00:35:38.000 My knee feel better.

00:35:40.000 IGF is insulin growth factor one.

00:35:42.000 Is that what that is?

00:35:42.000 Isn't it what HGH converts to in the body?

00:35:45.000 Is that correct or no?

00:35:47.000 I'd have to do a little research and go deeper on that.

00:35:50.000 I'm not sure.

00:35:52.000 A lot of guys were taking that, though.

00:35:53.000 A lot of football players were taking that.

00:35:55.000 Yeah, a ton of football players.

00:35:56.000 Deer Antler?

00:35:56.000 Yeah.

00:35:57.000 It's real popular stuff.

00:35:58.000 I know a tennis pro does it.

00:35:59.000 And I was like, oh, I don't know.

00:36:01.000 And what did he say?

00:36:02.000 He swears by it.

00:36:03.000 He can play all day.

00:36:05.000 Do they test in tennis?

00:36:06.000 He swears by goji berries and deer antler.

00:36:09.000 Goji berries are very high in antioxidants.

00:36:11.000 Yeah.

00:36:11.000 Do they test in tennis?

00:36:14.000 For sure, yeah, definitely.

00:36:16.000 That's why they tried to test, it was Venus or Serena.

00:36:20.000 For sure.

00:36:20.000 She ran into her fucking safe, she had a safe house, safe room in her house in case her house got home invaded.

00:36:26.000 She ran into her safe room and called the cops on the fucking drug testers.

00:36:30.000 Really?

00:36:32.000 Because she didn't want to get tested?

00:36:33.000 Exactly.

00:36:34.000 Dude, after talking to Nowitzki and talking to the two guys that I've talked to, what's his face, from Balco, Victor Conte and Nowitzki, I am convinced that there's just a giant percentage of professional athletes that are on steroids and You need to talk to them to figure that out,

00:36:52.000 Joe.

00:36:52.000 You really need to find out what the methods are.

00:36:55.000 They have testosterone now that they're making with animals.

00:36:57.000 It's no longer with yams.

00:36:59.000 So now the carbon isotope test that they used to catch people that were taking plant-based testosterone doesn't work anymore.

00:37:07.000 So now this guy's going to be on this animal-based testosterone.

00:37:12.000 So explain to me how they get...

00:37:13.000 I mean, I can't believe they get testosterone from yams.

00:37:16.000 There's no idea.

00:37:17.000 You should probably pull out your phone and Google it and explain it to us all.

00:37:21.000 And there's micro-dosing now, right?

00:37:23.000 Your boy was talking about that.

00:37:24.000 They're doing four-hour doses, a dose that only stays in your system for four hours.

00:37:29.000 Yeah, that's like the Alex Rodriguez shit.

00:37:31.000 He was taking gummy bears.

00:37:32.000 Testosterone gummy bears.

00:37:33.000 Damn.

00:37:34.000 It's not going to be long until they can clone your pituitary and just have it pumping out your own hormones.

00:37:39.000 Yeah, right?

00:37:39.000 Yeah, I want some more from my spare pituitary over there.

00:37:42.000 Yeah, people get a second pituitary gland stalled in their head.

00:37:45.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:37:46.000 Why'd your head get wider?

00:37:47.000 Shut up!

00:37:48.000 Just put one in the taint.

00:37:49.000 Just right in the taint.

00:37:51.000 Right in the taint.

00:37:52.000 Yeah, you get your spleen removed, replace it with a pituitary gland.

00:37:55.000 Totally.

00:37:56.000 Did he say anything about the long-term effects?

00:37:57.000 It doesn't seem like there's any evidence that microdosing testosterone is bad for you.

00:38:03.000 Your body has testosterone in it.

00:38:04.000 It's not a foreign substance.

00:38:05.000 Your body knows what to do with it.

00:38:07.000 The problem with things that your body doesn't know what to do with is toxicity, liver toxicity.

00:38:12.000 You know, there's a lot of issues with all sorts of different substances like EPO that cause strokes.

00:38:18.000 Unnatural things.

00:38:18.000 Like, when you take an EPO, your body's producing way more fucking red blood cells than it's supposed to.

00:38:23.000 Your blood's like sludge.

00:38:24.000 All sorts of issues with that.

00:38:26.000 But testosterone?

00:38:27.000 Your body knows what to do with it.

00:38:28.000 It's in there naturally.

00:38:30.000 EPO, though, they're talking about the bike riders wake up in the middle of the night because their blood's so thick.

00:38:37.000 Yeah, I told you this.

00:38:38.000 Yeah, they would wake up and ride their bike in the middle of the night.

00:38:40.000 Yeah, that's a buddy of ours.

00:38:42.000 How crazy is that?

00:38:42.000 Because they had to get rid of the blood cells?

00:38:44.000 What do you mean?

00:38:45.000 The blood's so thick.

00:38:46.000 The blood's so thick you have to wear yourself out and you have to do workouts and drink a lot of water in the middle of the night.

00:38:52.000 They would set their alarm so they'd get up every few hours and work out.

00:38:55.000 I heard a heart surgeon talk about one of the easiest things you can do.

00:38:58.000 There are some studies that suggest that giving blood once a year actually is the best thing you can do to avoid stroke.

00:39:06.000 And the reason women, they think, have less stroke and less heart disease, it might be because they bleed once a month.

00:39:13.000 So what happens is you, I guess, your blood actually literally gets thinner.

00:39:18.000 Man, that was some rationale for leeches back in the day.

00:39:21.000 Well, no, but I mean, in fact, as this heart surgeon was talking about it, it was really fascinating.

00:39:25.000 He goes, you know what you can do to increase your, I guess, lower your cholesterol and especially give blood?

00:39:31.000 I don't know.

00:39:32.000 Goddammit.

00:39:33.000 Goddammit, Tony.

00:39:35.000 How about Mercier?

00:39:37.000 Stacked.

00:39:39.000 Yeah, he looks very strong.

00:39:41.000 Very strong.

00:39:42.000 Powerful Easter bowling in the corner there.

00:39:48.000 Yeah, Elliott, Christian Allen.

00:39:50.000 Yeah, they're just having a hard time keeping this guy off of him.

00:39:53.000 Yeah, man, he's just all over him.

00:39:54.000 He wants nothing in the stand-up game with him.

00:39:56.000 He's just pinning him and taking him down.

00:39:59.000 Smart.

00:40:00.000 Yeah, it's smart, though.

00:40:05.000 There's my boyfriend, Christian Allen.

00:40:08.000 It's gonna be weird when they come up with all these fucking genetic manipulations that they're working on right now.

00:40:14.000 They think China's already got myostatin inhibitors in place for their athletes.

00:40:18.000 Jesus, man.

00:40:19.000 Seriously?

00:40:19.000 Mm-hmm.

00:40:20.000 Yeah.

00:40:20.000 Damn.

00:40:21.000 Yeah, they think they're already experimenting on it.

00:40:22.000 They got someone locked up in a mountain somewhere and they got some fucking dude who's got triple muscle and is gonna live to be 190. That's awesome.

00:40:30.000 That's awesome, by the way.

00:40:31.000 I can't wait.

00:40:32.000 That's what happened to those mice when they ran those tests on those myostatin inhibitors in mice.

00:40:36.000 The mice became superhuman, or super mice.

00:40:38.000 They got all this muscle on them, and they lived longer.

00:40:41.000 And they don't degenerate.

00:40:42.000 Sign me up.

00:40:43.000 So their muscle is like double muscles.

00:40:45.000 Sign me up right now.

00:40:47.000 They'll take it right now.

00:40:49.000 Hey, look at this.

00:40:49.000 Sim's turning around.

00:40:50.000 Look at this.

00:40:51.000 He's about to get taken down again.

00:40:54.000 How about a guillotine?

00:40:55.000 How about a guillotine?

00:40:56.000 A little wider there, fella.

00:40:57.000 A little wider with that stance, please.

00:41:01.000 There'll be a time when we choose bodies like cars.

00:41:03.000 That's going to be a bummer.

00:41:05.000 We just insert consciousness into whatever body we want.

00:41:07.000 Every girl's going to look the same.

00:41:09.000 There's going to be designer cars.

00:41:10.000 Yeah, they'll always switch it up, though, you know?

00:41:13.000 They'll come out with a new model, and that'll be hot for a while.

00:41:15.000 What else can you do?

00:41:17.000 It's not going to matter.

00:41:18.000 How long, 500 years, where they could pull your consciousness out and put it into Tate's body?

00:41:25.000 How long, 500 years?

00:41:26.000 Well, we're going to be able to have chips.

00:41:28.000 Less than that?

00:41:29.000 We're going to be able to have chips, and you're going to be able to live your life, and then give me a chip at the end of the day, and I'm like, what'd you do today?

00:41:34.000 You're like, watch it.

00:41:35.000 Do it.

00:41:37.000 Plug it into me, and I'll live the life of Eddie Bravo for a day.

00:41:40.000 I'm like, bro, check out this chick I hooked up with.

00:41:41.000 Play this.

00:41:42.000 You should have watched it.

00:41:44.000 You can sell your dreams, you know what I mean?

00:41:45.000 Record your dreams, sell them, boom.

00:41:47.000 Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of weird shit going on in the next 100, 200 years.

00:41:51.000 There's one thing though with that novelty of like being able to choose your body or whatever it is, it's like one of the things I think that people appreciate, it's like, is hard work.

00:42:00.000 Is people meriting what it is and like if there's no merit to it, what's the value of it?

00:42:03.000 I need more, Kate!

00:42:05.000 Forging character.

00:42:06.000 That's old school, Kate.

00:42:07.000 That's a spiritual crisis in a way.

00:42:08.000 I mean, it's a thing because like outside of the physical realm, there's a whole entire other conversation to have with that.

00:42:14.000 At what time do we get tired of the novelty for something with substance?

00:42:17.000 Right.

00:42:17.000 Our entire paradigm is built on that, on struggle.

00:42:20.000 Yeah, the paradigm is going to shift.

00:42:23.000 Doesn't substance come from who you are, though?

00:42:26.000 Not your body, right?

00:42:28.000 If you could be a 12-year-old boy right now, would you be?

00:42:31.000 What if you identify as a 12-year-old boy?

00:42:33.000 Can you still get into Chuck E. Cheese?

00:42:37.000 You can identify as anybody now.

00:42:38.000 You can identify as black.

00:42:40.000 They caught a second guy pretending to be black.

00:42:42.000 Did you see that guy who identified as being an amputee and thought that's what he was and then he cut off his arm?

00:42:49.000 His hand didn't feel normal to him.

00:42:51.000 You saw that on HBO, right?

00:42:52.000 I did see that.

00:42:53.000 It's called mental illness.

00:42:55.000 It also flies in the face of all this stuff about like, oh, we're all born equal.

00:43:00.000 No, we're not.

00:43:01.000 There's some different shit out there.

00:43:03.000 It's stupid.

00:43:03.000 It's stupid to say that we're born equal.

00:43:05.000 It's nonsense.

00:43:06.000 No, we don't all start at the same starting line.

00:43:08.000 Gender is a social construct, man.

00:43:11.000 It's a social construct.

00:43:13.000 No, it's not.

00:43:14.000 No, we're all different as fuck.

00:43:16.000 There's a broad spectrum of human beings.

00:43:19.000 And some of us have hands, and some of us don't want hands.

00:43:23.000 Well, a lot of it, like the amputee you're talking about, a lot of it's mental disease, right?

00:43:27.000 So what do you do with those guys?

00:43:28.000 Like I was talking with Brian, how about child molesters?

00:43:30.000 Yes, that's what I was going to say to you.

00:43:32.000 They're mentally fucked up, man.

00:43:33.000 The subway guy.

00:43:35.000 You're going to get a footlong, son.

00:43:36.000 You're going to get a footlong now in jail.

00:43:39.000 Please don't say that again.

00:43:40.000 Jared, the subway guy?

00:43:41.000 That was the cover of New York Daily News.

00:43:43.000 Was it really?

00:43:43.000 Yes.

00:43:44.000 Yeah.

00:43:45.000 Goddamn it.

00:43:45.000 There was what?

00:43:46.000 Cover of New York Daily News.

00:43:48.000 Expect a footlong in jail.

00:43:50.000 Is that true?

00:43:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:52.000 But I think...

00:43:53.000 He's super screwed.

00:43:54.000 He's super screwed.

00:43:54.000 But there was an article recently that was talking about people that have a natural, like, inclination towards pedophilia.

00:44:03.000 And that it's something that is hardwired into their brain.

00:44:07.000 And they were trying to make this argument along those same lines as someone being transgender.

00:44:11.000 And I was like, whoa, this is a fucking very tricky argument.

00:44:15.000 It is.

00:44:16.000 Because if you start giving people the green light to be pedophiles in any way, shape, or form, there's a lot of people going to jump on that.

00:44:22.000 That's not the debate.

00:44:23.000 No, that's not the debate.

00:44:24.000 No, it's not the debate.

00:44:24.000 I'm not saying it's a debate.

00:44:26.000 I'm talking about the science behind it.

00:44:27.000 The science behind it is...

00:44:28.000 It raises questions that they were born.

00:44:29.000 Look, there's no science behind transgender, either.

00:44:32.000 It's a social issue, right?

00:44:33.000 There's no science where people are saying people are absolutely born a woman trapped in a man's body, but socially we are all accepting that now.

00:44:39.000 The bigger question becomes this.

00:44:40.000 If you can prove that it's neurological, then what it classifies as is disability.

00:44:46.000 Now, we all agree we don't want those people near children, but the question becomes twofold.

00:44:51.000 All of us, before punishment, the most important thing is that they don't molest children.

00:44:55.000 That's what we want to stop them from doing.

00:44:57.000 So the question becomes, do you give them safe haven to talk about it, go get help, figure out how to cure it, whatever it might be?

00:45:03.000 You have to trust them deeply.

00:45:05.000 You have to trust them deeply to not do anything about it, not to act on their urges.

00:45:09.000 It's like trusting a guy who lives in an island of hot chicks to not fuck.

00:45:13.000 No, no, you keep them very far away from children.

00:45:15.000 At this point, that means jail.

00:45:16.000 But how do you do that?

00:45:18.000 So are you going to take them in jail if they have a certain gene, or are you going to wait until they act?

00:45:22.000 That's the question.

00:45:23.000 So most important is if they do find it's neurological, maybe there's a way to cure that or block the gene eventually.

00:45:30.000 But before that...

00:45:31.000 I don't think it's a genetic thing.

00:45:33.000 Well, what they find is it might very well be...

00:45:35.000 Most pedophiles, in a strange way, are left-handed.

00:45:37.000 Why?

00:45:38.000 We don't know.

00:45:39.000 But for the most part, there is a lot of evidence that suggests it could be neurological.

00:45:43.000 It's not something in their childhood?

00:45:46.000 Maybe, in some cases.

00:45:48.000 Yeah, there's a lot of different reasons.

00:45:49.000 There's a lot that goes into it, man.

00:45:50.000 But as we learn more about brain science, you're just finding more and more that sometimes this is a form of, quote-unquote, brain damage or mental illness or whatever.

00:45:58.000 Well, the brain doesn't come out perfect every time.

00:46:01.000 No.

00:46:01.000 Sims is on top here, landing some fucking hammers, man.

00:46:04.000 These are legit shots.

00:46:06.000 Big punches.

00:46:06.000 He hits hard, man.

00:46:07.000 He hits fucking hard in close quarters.

00:46:09.000 That's one thing about strikers.

00:46:11.000 You see that there's a big difference in what they can generate, the amount of power they can in short distances with ground and pound.

00:46:18.000 You see that with Krokop in that Gonzaga fight?

00:46:20.000 Oh, my God.

00:46:21.000 Those elbows inside the guard?

00:46:22.000 It's because Krokop is a legit striker.

00:46:25.000 I agree.

00:46:25.000 And you're seeing this here with Sims.

00:46:27.000 In close quarters.

00:46:27.000 He's fucking Mercier up.

00:46:29.000 The same with Tony Ferguson or little John Dodson, man.

00:46:33.000 They generate power in, like, inches.

00:46:35.000 Yeah, they make it count.

00:46:35.000 Oh, speaking of which, Ferguson's gonna fight Khabib.

00:46:38.000 That's a fight.

00:46:40.000 Khabib.

00:46:40.000 That is a motherfucking fight.

00:46:41.000 I don't know.

00:46:45.000 I do not know, but I love it.

00:46:47.000 I love that fight.

00:46:48.000 I also love that fight.

00:46:49.000 That's a great, especially when you see what Ferguson's been fucking doing to people lately.

00:46:53.000 It's going to be interesting to see Nygamurdov because he's been hurt for a grip.

00:46:58.000 Nygamurdov.

00:46:59.000 What did you call me?

00:47:03.000 Khabib.

00:47:03.000 Khabib Nygamurdov.

00:47:05.000 It's going to be interesting to see him because he had so much time off.

00:47:07.000 He's been hurt.

00:47:08.000 And his knee's jacked.

00:47:09.000 It's a tough fight.

00:47:10.000 I don't think his knee's 100%.

00:47:12.000 I don't think it can be.

00:47:13.000 It's a tough fight.

00:47:14.000 Oh!

00:47:15.000 Oh boy.

00:47:17.000 Oh boy.

00:47:18.000 It's a hap.

00:47:19.000 Oh boy.

00:47:19.000 Eddie, has he got it?

00:47:21.000 Eddie?

00:47:21.000 No.

00:47:22.000 He's trying.

00:47:22.000 He doesn't seem to be struggling.

00:47:25.000 He's sideways here.

00:47:27.000 Triangle?

00:47:28.000 Come on, it's right there.

00:47:29.000 Triangle!

00:47:30.000 You know, when a guy goes against a guy who's just better than him at Jiu Jitsu, there's a certain amount of recognition that the guy's better and you don't try for certain shit.

00:47:38.000 Like you get big brothered a little bit or something.

00:47:40.000 Yeah.

00:47:41.000 Almost too much respect.

00:47:43.000 But then you go for a sub and you're like, fuck, I'm not really going to get this.

00:47:47.000 You don't believe in it.

00:47:50.000 Ultimate Fighter, September 9th, Aldo and my boy, Uriah Faber.

00:47:56.000 Or McGregor, rather.

00:47:58.000 I don't know about the Ultimate Fighter format.

00:48:00.000 I don't know about that format.

00:48:02.000 Well, they're banking on Conor bringing the views now, right?

00:48:04.000 Like, they're doing whatever they can to get the views back up.

00:48:07.000 I don't know, man.

00:48:08.000 You just gotta switch it up.

00:48:09.000 If I was Conor, I wouldn't be into doing it.

00:48:12.000 Me neither.

00:48:12.000 I think it hurts his brand.

00:48:14.000 Does that mean he's gonna fight Uriah?

00:48:16.000 No.

00:48:16.000 It could possibly happen.

00:48:18.000 Listen, let me tell you something right now.

00:48:20.000 If Aldo gets hurt again, they easily could have that fight.

00:48:23.000 They easily could have Uriah Faber vs.

00:48:25.000 Conor.

00:48:25.000 Just super fight style.

00:48:27.000 Easily.

00:48:28.000 It's a great backup, for sure, if Aldo gets hurt.

00:48:30.000 Especially if they can somehow generate some respectable ratings.

00:48:35.000 How is Aldo doing, dude?

00:48:36.000 Does anybody know?

00:48:36.000 Who knows.

00:48:38.000 Hopefully good.

00:48:38.000 Why do you think he's gonna get hurt again?

00:48:40.000 He could easily get hurt again.

00:48:41.000 He's pulled out of multiple fights.

00:48:43.000 Yeah, and there's, you know, depending on what is actually going on when it comes to PEDs over there, who knows?

00:48:49.000 Who knows?

00:48:51.000 I mean, there's so much speculation.

00:48:52.000 This coach had a press conference.

00:48:53.000 I know.

00:48:54.000 About PEDs.

00:48:55.000 And about Brennan.

00:48:56.000 We would be...

00:48:57.000 He said Brennan should wash his mouth out.

00:48:58.000 Yeah.

00:48:59.000 Like, hey guys, Brennan likes Brazilians.

00:49:01.000 Take it easy.

00:49:01.000 We're not insulting Brazilians.

00:49:02.000 That's not obvious you're doing shit at all.

00:49:04.000 Well, there's without a doubt a certain amount of people that have been on the PEDs.

00:49:08.000 I think it's a legit focus of discussion.

00:49:11.000 I just do.

00:49:12.000 I'm not going to not talk about it.

00:49:13.000 I'm not going to not talk about it as a speculation.

00:49:15.000 There's not.

00:49:16.000 It's legit.

00:49:17.000 And especially after talking to Nowitzki and talking to many, many, many, many, many fighters and managers and trainers.

00:49:23.000 They work.

00:49:24.000 Of course they work.

00:49:25.000 And here's the other thing.

00:49:26.000 What Tim Kennedy said to you.

00:49:28.000 He's like, have you been tested?

00:49:29.000 I haven't been tested.

00:49:31.000 You know, that.

00:49:32.000 Like, everyone's being tested.

00:49:33.000 Everyone's being tested.

00:49:34.000 Really?

00:49:34.000 He's like, who's been tested?

00:49:36.000 Are you being tested?

00:49:37.000 Tim got, I think he got tested yesterday or the day before.

00:49:39.000 No, I asked him if that was UFC. It wasn't UFC. Really?

00:49:42.000 Who tested him?

00:49:43.000 Because Tim had piss bottles up and he was like...

00:49:45.000 But that was for the Army.

00:49:48.000 No, because he put that out and goes, UFC still hasn't tested me.

00:49:50.000 He goes, I'm getting tested now.

00:49:51.000 I think the military tests them all the time.

00:49:53.000 And he goes, the UFC still hasn't tested me.

00:49:55.000 Jesus Christ.

00:49:56.000 And the question is, too, not even who's currently on steroids, but who's on the live roster that's moving that has been?

00:50:04.000 There's guys that are cycling in and out all the time, and really I think the question Eddie asked about who's not?

00:50:10.000 How many guys aren't?

00:50:12.000 Who's never done that that's signed under that contract that gets that check?

00:50:16.000 Yeah, that was that weird moment in the Anderson Silva press conference where they said, is this the first time you've ever been tested at a competition?

00:50:22.000 And he goes, yes.

00:50:24.000 And they're like, fuck, the one time they pop you.

00:50:27.000 The only time you've ever been tested at a competition they pop you.

00:50:31.000 But didn't he take Viagra or something?

00:50:33.000 Allegedly.

00:50:33.000 That's what he says.

00:50:35.000 There's more than one story.

00:50:36.000 Bas Rutten was going over it and he said that he changed his story three times.

00:50:41.000 What happens?

00:50:42.000 You take Viagra, you test positive?

00:50:44.000 Is that what happens?

00:50:45.000 Let's not talk over each other.

00:50:46.000 It elevates testosterone?

00:50:48.000 Is that what Viagra does?

00:50:48.000 No.

00:50:49.000 It has nothing to do with it.

00:50:50.000 What did you say, Viagra?

00:50:51.000 Hold on.

00:50:51.000 Sorry.

00:50:51.000 But Viagra is a performance enhancing drug and it is illegal.

00:50:54.000 Correct.

00:50:54.000 Because Viagra actually does enhance your body.

00:50:58.000 It's like a very extreme version of nitric oxide.

00:51:01.000 Phasodilator, yeah.

00:51:01.000 Blood flow, right?

00:51:02.000 So it really does benefit you in endurance.

00:51:04.000 Yeah.

00:51:05.000 Endurance athletes take Viagra.

00:51:07.000 I've trained on it before.

00:51:09.000 I did jujitsu.

00:51:10.000 I took a Cialis and did jujitsu to see what it was like.

00:51:12.000 You noticed the difference?

00:51:13.000 Yeah.

00:51:14.000 It benefits you.

00:51:15.000 But no more so than Shroom Tech.

00:51:17.000 Don't ever do that again.

00:51:21.000 Don't tell anybody!

00:51:23.000 What's the 10th planet secret?

00:51:27.000 You don't get hard unless you're excited.

00:51:31.000 He takes your back and he's like, that's exactly what you think it is, motherfucker.

00:51:34.000 Is that a steel cup?

00:51:36.000 You just say, is that?

00:51:37.000 Shut up.

00:51:38.000 Nope, that's my dick.

00:51:40.000 I own you.

00:51:41.000 Steel cups are brutal, man.

00:51:43.000 And what could you do if you got the guy's back with your hooks in?

00:51:45.000 Just find a happy space in the wall and stare at it until he's done.

00:51:49.000 Just press down on his taint.

00:51:51.000 Just tap right away?

00:51:52.000 No, tap.

00:51:53.000 Don't be silly.

00:51:53.000 Don't be impolite.

00:51:54.000 Just realize that there's a pecking order and he's the alpha.

00:51:57.000 It's amazing to me that those metal cups are not illegal in the UFC. Well, if you kick one, you break your foot.

00:52:03.000 To train with guys with cups on is a drag.

00:52:05.000 That's a crummy thing to do.

00:52:07.000 For sure.

00:52:08.000 Because it hurts, you mean?

00:52:10.000 Yeah.

00:52:10.000 It's painful.

00:52:13.000 It's a fulcrum point for arm bars.

00:52:15.000 Break people's arms with it.

00:52:16.000 Even if you're a guy's on top and half guard and grinding.

00:52:19.000 That's a thing, man.

00:52:20.000 That's a not comfortable thing.

00:52:21.000 You know who did it the first time?

00:52:23.000 You remember Amir Renovati?

00:52:24.000 Amir Renovati mounted me once and he put the grapevines in and he had a...

00:52:28.000 I go, what the fuck is that?

00:52:29.000 He goes, it's a tie cup, bro.

00:52:31.000 A steel tie cup.

00:52:32.000 I go, ow!

00:52:33.000 What the fuck, man?

00:52:34.000 He was like, no, it was mounting me.

00:52:36.000 He was pressing it down on my...

00:52:38.000 But back in the day, those were the only guys.

00:52:40.000 When you were training and there's a new guy, there are always kickboxers or boxers that came in that wanted to try jiu-jitsu.

00:52:45.000 Those were the only guys that wore a cup.

00:52:46.000 There was never really grappling dudes.

00:52:48.000 I never really knew jiu-jitsu guys that would wear cups.

00:52:50.000 Some do.

00:52:51.000 But now, back then, it was guys that came in from kickboxing.

00:52:55.000 The way I train is I put shorts on, I get my shoes on, and I put my cup on.

00:52:59.000 That's the same way they would come onto the mats.

00:53:01.000 I'm amazing.

00:53:02.000 How many guys fight and they have like cups that are loose in their jockstrap.

00:53:06.000 They have regular old cups.

00:53:08.000 Like you guys are out of your fucking mind.

00:53:09.000 Like plastic cups?

00:53:09.000 That's what I wore.

00:53:10.000 Yeah, those shitty ones.

00:53:11.000 I'm wearing a cup right now.

00:53:12.000 Those diamond MMA cups are so goddamn good.

00:53:15.000 You'd have to be fucking crazy to wear anything else other than a tie cup.

00:53:19.000 Other than a tie cup with the rope.

00:53:20.000 I just didn't give a fuck.

00:53:22.000 You'd have to be crazy.

00:53:22.000 I never wore one in football.

00:53:25.000 It's whatever, man.

00:53:26.000 You let that fucking three-piece set, that baby bird just flop around.

00:53:30.000 Good job, guys.

00:53:33.000 You let that little nub free.

00:53:35.000 I don't give a shit.

00:53:36.000 Did you always wear one, Eddie?

00:53:38.000 I never wear a cup.

00:53:40.000 No.

00:53:40.000 He wears a holster.

00:53:41.000 Oh!

00:53:42.000 Oh, guys!

00:53:43.000 Sorry.

00:53:44.000 I would only wear one like a week or two weeks before a fight to get used to it because I was going to wear it at the fight.

00:53:50.000 But I would never, never, ever wear it at training or anything.

00:53:52.000 I never wore it at training once until I was rolling with Einstein.

00:53:55.000 He was trying to pass my guard and he shoved his knee right into my dick.

00:53:59.000 Yes.

00:54:00.000 And I got out of the class, and I took my jockstrap off, and it was filled with blood.

00:54:07.000 And blood was coming out of my dick.

00:54:09.000 He smashed my dick.

00:54:11.000 Like, it smashed.

00:54:12.000 And I was trying to figure out if I should go to the hospital.

00:54:15.000 And I figured, well, if it was my nose when I go to the hospital, no.

00:54:18.000 So I said, all right, let me just go home and see.

00:54:20.000 So I was feeling it.

00:54:21.000 It didn't hurt.

00:54:22.000 So I said, let me see if I could get it hard.

00:54:24.000 So I got hard, and I jerked off.

00:54:26.000 I jerked off, and it came out like one of those chickens.

00:54:31.000 You ever get a chicken that's got an embryo in it?

00:54:32.000 It's all bloody and all fucked up.

00:54:34.000 Pictures?

00:54:34.000 You got any photos?

00:54:35.000 No.

00:54:36.000 So I pissed and came blood for three or four days, but it never hurt.

00:54:41.000 I would have gone right to the doctor.

00:54:43.000 Me too.

00:54:43.000 I kind of feel like under that scrutiny of, hmm, if it were my nose, my cock is so much more important than my nose.

00:54:49.000 You say that, but if you don't have a nose, good luck using your cock.

00:54:53.000 I agree.

00:54:53.000 If your nose is missing, no one's gonna suck your dick.

00:54:59.000 This fucking Skeletor dude with his giant dick, get out of here.

00:55:03.000 Did he smash your balls or the trunk?

00:55:06.000 Right into my dick hole.

00:55:07.000 Big difference.

00:55:09.000 That's happened before.

00:55:10.000 You know, it's that pass where someone's trying to slice the knee through, and he just made a mistake.

00:55:16.000 It stings.

00:55:17.000 Slammed into my dick.

00:55:18.000 It was only one time it happened after who knows how many years of training, but that was it for me, dog.

00:55:24.000 Thank God you weren't on Cialis.

00:55:25.000 That would have been hard.

00:55:27.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:55:27.000 Well, I probably would have absorbed it better.

00:55:29.000 Or rip that shit off.

00:55:30.000 Like, you ever have a girl riding you and then slips out and then lands on it?

00:55:34.000 Jesus.

00:55:34.000 I don't, because mine is too long.

00:55:35.000 I got his dick broken.

00:55:37.000 How about that homeboy?

00:55:39.000 Remember homeboy who got his dick broken?

00:55:41.000 I talked to him.

00:55:42.000 He was in a wheelchair.

00:55:43.000 I talked to that guy in a wheelchair after it happened, and he told me exactly what happened and how his dick broke in half from a girl riding him.

00:55:53.000 Oh, that's...

00:55:54.000 That's a reckless girl.

00:55:56.000 He was in a wheelchair.

00:55:57.000 His dick broke.

00:55:58.000 Some real freaks out there.

00:55:58.000 Sex.

00:55:59.000 Blood everywhere.

00:56:00.000 Dick broke.

00:56:01.000 The guy's an MMA fighter.

00:56:03.000 I know a guy who got kicked in the nuts from fighting, and then his testosterone went, got really low, later on in his life.

00:56:10.000 And the doctor said, it's probably because, because one ball was bigger than the other, because it never swelled and never went down.

00:56:16.000 The doctor said, you injured your nuts fighting, and that's why, that's probably why your testosterone...

00:56:22.000 There was one of the guys who was fighting for the UFC who was...

00:56:25.000 Training, and he went to a spar with a buddy, and he just didn't bother putting his cup on because we're just gonna move around light.

00:56:30.000 Got kicked in the balls, lost his ball.

00:56:32.000 Jesus.

00:56:33.000 Never, never, never see him again.

00:56:34.000 Because he didn't go to the doctor?

00:56:35.000 No, he went, his ball exploded.

00:56:38.000 He got kicked in the ball, and he was just like, pfft, dying, no more ball.

00:56:41.000 You get surgery, you just leave it.

00:56:42.000 What are you gonna do?

00:56:43.000 You get surgery.

00:56:43.000 You gotta reabsorb.

00:56:45.000 You just do, you take a cheesecloth, you wrap it up.

00:56:48.000 Tighten it down.

00:56:49.000 No, it's nothing.

00:56:50.000 It's like they removed it.

00:56:52.000 It exploded.

00:56:53.000 I finally figured out...

00:56:54.000 You see those, like, spectacles where they have some guy who gets kicked in the nuts, like, really hard, like a kung fu guy who just stands out?

00:57:01.000 Well, I figured out what he's doing, because occasionally when I'm having sex, like, one ball will find a hiding place.

00:57:06.000 Yep.

00:57:08.000 Under the cartilage.

00:57:10.000 Where the hernia is.

00:57:12.000 And then you just plop it out.

00:57:13.000 But they just must do that.

00:57:15.000 They just go backstage and they just hide their balls above the bone.

00:57:19.000 Fight Science did a study on it and they said that actually...

00:57:22.000 Fight Science is not science.

00:57:23.000 Let's just be honest about that.

00:57:24.000 But they said that their balls actually develop calcium deposits.

00:57:28.000 Their balls develop calcium deposits.

00:57:31.000 So their balls actually get super hard from trauma.

00:57:34.000 Come on.

00:57:34.000 I feel like Red Band's not even here, and I feel like, oh, Brian.

00:57:38.000 You know what I mean?

00:57:39.000 A little bit.

00:57:40.000 I'm telling you.

00:57:41.000 I realize.

00:57:42.000 We need a highlight reel of the ultimate ball shots.

00:57:46.000 Arlovsky versus Mir.

00:57:47.000 They're using Arlovsky from a decade ago.

00:57:50.000 Look at this fight.

00:57:51.000 I'll tell you what, that Frank Mir-Todd Duffy fight was crazy.

00:57:55.000 Insane.

00:57:56.000 Crazy.

00:57:56.000 That was a crazy round.

00:57:58.000 How about Bigfoot?

00:57:59.000 Couldn't take a punch at all, then fights Soapoleli and he's back.

00:58:04.000 Can take a punch, no problem.

00:58:05.000 Bro, I don't like that rematch with Bigfoot-Mark Hunt.

00:58:08.000 That's a legendary fight, and now you gotta...

00:58:11.000 I don't like it, man.

00:58:12.000 Doesn't matter.

00:58:12.000 It doesn't take away from that fight.

00:58:15.000 I'm sorry, but I thought Andrzejewski was fighting for the title.

00:58:18.000 Why?

00:58:18.000 No, Kane is.

00:58:20.000 I don't know.

00:58:20.000 I thought that was the rumor.

00:58:22.000 No, Kane.

00:58:23.000 I think it was going to either be Dos Anjos or Dos Santos, rather.

00:58:31.000 I don't know why they don't do Dos Santos-Overeem.

00:58:34.000 Overeem's begging for it.

00:58:35.000 Yeah, they are doing that.

00:58:36.000 That's the fight.

00:58:37.000 But Arlovsky, god damn, look at this.

00:58:39.000 When he stopped Travis Brown, god damn he's back.

00:58:43.000 He's a vicious fucking striker.

00:58:45.000 You know, the guy had some confidence problems, he got KO'd a bunch of times, but at the end of the day, that guy is a vicious fucking striker.

00:58:51.000 How about for him sticking through it?

00:58:53.000 Yeah.

00:58:53.000 What did he get?

00:58:54.000 Knockout four in a row?

00:58:55.000 Many times.

00:58:56.000 Look at him now.

00:58:56.000 Well, watch this fight with Karatanov in Strikeforce.

00:58:59.000 That's a tough fight to watch, man.

00:59:00.000 You watch that fight and you're like, this fight's over.

00:59:02.000 Yes.

00:59:02.000 This is over.

00:59:03.000 It is Todd Duffy.

00:59:05.000 Goddamn, son.

00:59:08.000 Those are both similar fights.

00:59:09.000 Mir, Duffy, and Orofsky, Travis Brown.

00:59:13.000 Yeah, in a lot of ways, right?

00:59:14.000 Yeah, just wild.

00:59:15.000 Except the end.

00:59:16.000 Mirrors was so definitive.

00:59:19.000 I mean, Mirrors, there was no coming back from that.

00:59:22.000 I mean, they could have counted to a hundred.

00:59:24.000 How about Mare too, man?

00:59:25.000 Mare's another guy just stuck with it, man.

00:59:27.000 Look at him.

00:59:29.000 Yeah, yeah, you just got to think about just a few years ago.

00:59:32.000 He was like, what is he, one out of his last six?

00:59:35.000 How about when Josh Barnett crushed him just like two years ago?

00:59:39.000 Josh Barnett crushed him two years ago, and now he's on the verge of a title shot.

00:59:43.000 Chad Lapreze, Francisco Trinaldo.

00:59:46.000 Trinaldo fought 185 at Ultimate Fighter in Brazil, and now he's 155. Hmm.

00:59:56.000 Crazy.

00:59:56.000 Chad Lapreet is coming out with a cross on.

00:59:58.000 The IV thing doesn't start to October, correct?

01:00:01.000 Exactly.

01:00:02.000 That's why this December fight with Aldo is going to be real problematic for Mr. McGregor.

01:00:06.000 Because Mr. McGregor cuts a fuckload of weight.

01:00:09.000 So does Aldo, though.

01:00:10.000 Yep.

01:00:10.000 Both guys do.

01:00:11.000 They both look like shit.

01:00:12.000 They just got to start cutting early.

01:00:13.000 So does Weidman, though.

01:00:14.000 Weidman cuts a shitload of weight.

01:00:16.000 Well, you know, that's the conversation that I had with...

01:00:19.000 Nowitzki, I was like, they have to add weight classes.

01:00:21.000 They have to.

01:00:22.000 But the UFC doesn't want to add weight classes because they think it waters down the sport.

01:00:25.000 Yeah, I'm not a fan of that.

01:00:27.000 I think there's enough weight classes.

01:00:29.000 Leave it the way they are.

01:00:29.000 Deal with it.

01:00:30.000 But there's not.

01:00:31.000 There's giant jumps.

01:00:32.000 There's a 20-pound jump.

01:00:34.000 It does matter.

01:00:35.000 185 to 205 is a huge jump.

01:00:37.000 That's fine.

01:00:38.000 Guys make nine jumps anyway, though.

01:00:39.000 They're still doing it.

01:00:40.000 You guys transcend three weight classes.

01:00:42.000 But you're not fighting.

01:00:43.000 If you were fighting, you wouldn't be fine with it.

01:00:44.000 No, I know, maybe for the fighters it could be better, but for the sport, we have enough weight classes.

01:00:48.000 No, I'm with Joe, man, because a lot of these guys, look at heavyweight, 206 or 265, it's fucking insane!

01:00:55.000 That's a nice problem.

01:00:56.000 I like it.

01:00:57.000 No, it's not.

01:00:57.000 It's interesting.

01:00:58.000 As a fighter, it's not cool, man.

01:00:59.000 As a fighter, no.

01:01:00.000 As an audience member, I'm not talking about the fighters, I'm talking about spectators.

01:01:04.000 I like that.

01:01:05.000 Yeah, it's too much already.

01:01:06.000 We don't need more.

01:01:07.000 You do, though, because what about a guy like Chris Weidman?

01:01:10.000 He's a bad motherfucker, right?

01:01:12.000 He's a champion right now.

01:01:12.000 He's doing great.

01:01:13.000 He walks, what, 220?

01:01:14.000 He's doing great.

01:01:15.000 215?

01:01:15.000 He's a big boy.

01:01:16.000 He's killing himself to get 85. He needs to, in between camps, maybe not blow up as much.

01:01:23.000 You don't understand, he's not blowing up.

01:01:25.000 He's dehydrating.

01:01:26.000 He's naturally.

01:01:26.000 He fights at 185?

01:01:28.000 Yes.

01:01:28.000 Then he should fight 205. What if he fought at 200?

01:01:31.000 He's a champ at 185. What if his optimal weight's 200?

01:01:33.000 Huh?

01:01:34.000 What if his optimal weight to perform's at 200?

01:01:36.000 I like the weight classes the way they are.

01:01:38.000 I don't want any more.

01:01:39.000 You don't find a problem.

01:01:40.000 You're not using any logic.

01:01:42.000 You're just saying you like it.

01:01:43.000 The heavyweight class, that argument, that is ridiculous.

01:01:48.000 Especially when the heavyweights are so poor, there's six really great heavyweights, and then the rest is just hard to get guys that are that big that are really moving the envelope like that.

01:01:58.000 And a lot of those guys are 205ers easy.

01:02:01.000 Easy 205-ers.

01:02:03.000 And so if you had a weight class that started at 230 that was reasonable, to have a guy that's like a Frank Mirsai that's not super huge and have a guy fight a 300-pound man on the day, whoa!

01:02:13.000 To Joe's point, do you care if Conor McGregor and Aldo fought at 150?

01:02:20.000 160?

01:02:21.000 Do any of us give a fuck in here?

01:02:22.000 I don't care.

01:02:24.000 I want to see the best fighter at the best weight.

01:02:27.000 Then you need more weight classes.

01:02:28.000 That's what I mean.

01:02:29.000 I'd rather see Aldo, if Aldo fights better and faster and longer and with more intensity at 155, I'd rather see that.

01:02:35.000 I think the weight class is the way they are.

01:02:38.000 Force fights more instead of going, well, I'm in this weight class and I'm in this weight class.

01:02:42.000 Well, you could see more super fights where people meet in the middle for a belt.

01:02:46.000 That's what it should be.

01:02:47.000 Belts are bullshit.

01:02:49.000 Who cares?

01:02:49.000 It's the best fighters or the best fighters.

01:02:51.000 We all know who the best fighters are, right?

01:02:53.000 Have the best fighters fight the best guys.

01:02:54.000 When you beat the best guys, you're the best fighter.

01:02:56.000 This idea of the champion, I just think at a certain point in time, who cares?

01:03:01.000 If Aldo has the belt, look, McGregor has, let's be honest, McGregor has an illegitimate belt.

01:03:07.000 Sure.

01:03:08.000 Made up.

01:03:08.000 It's a made-up belt.

01:03:09.000 I mean, we call it the interim belt, but Aldo defended his title a year ago.

01:03:13.000 Stripping a guy because he can't get through a camp without getting injured is a part of MMA. It's always been a part of MMA. But because of the marketing, because of the hype behind it, because of the huge event, the enormity, the economics of the event, they decide to make it an interim fight.

01:03:28.000 So he's got a title.

01:03:30.000 Aldo's got a title.

01:03:31.000 They both have titles.

01:03:32.000 So they're fighting for the undisputed title.

01:03:34.000 So it becomes this big thing that they have to get on a scale and they have to have a certain amount of mass in their body and then they rehydrate like crazy and do their best to get back up to whatever the fuck they really are.

01:03:44.000 Wouldn't it be better if they just fought?

01:03:46.000 We know how big Conor is.

01:03:47.000 We know how big Aldo is.

01:03:49.000 Let's go fight, guys.

01:03:50.000 The other thing that would be cool, if you didn't have belts like that, or you had a mitigated value to them, you could have catch fights for everybody.

01:03:58.000 You could go, okay, Jon Jones, what do you want to fight Weidman at?

01:04:01.000 Or whatever.

01:04:03.000 You could do any of that stuff with every single fight, and then it would be real match-ups.

01:04:07.000 I also feel it adds another dimension.

01:04:10.000 So fighting, the biggest thing is that it does become, if you're sucking inordinate amounts of weight, part of being a champion then has to be how good is your nutrition program, how good is your weight loss program, and that becomes a huge part of fighting when it probably shouldn't.

01:04:27.000 What about more brain trauma?

01:04:28.000 Correct.

01:04:29.000 Because homeboy Jeff Novitski was saying that it takes 72 hours to rehydrate your brain.

01:04:35.000 So even with IVs.

01:04:36.000 No belts.

01:04:37.000 You guys are saying no belts.

01:04:38.000 Just catch weight fights.

01:04:39.000 No, no.

01:04:39.000 I want belts, but let's get more divisions.

01:04:41.000 So guys aren't killing themselves to make these weights.

01:04:43.000 You just want to see the best athlete.

01:04:44.000 I think the UFC is amazing and they're doing an amazing job to add this and add that.

01:04:51.000 I don't know.

01:04:51.000 It'd be funny if you took your mask off and you weren't Eddie and you were actually Dana.

01:04:57.000 There's so much good shit happening in the UFC, too much, that you can't even keep track of it to add more weight and then take away the belts?

01:05:04.000 I think this is an illogical discussion.

01:05:06.000 It's not that they're not doing a great job.

01:05:07.000 They're saying all these reasons why more weight classes would be beneficial and not cutting weight would be beneficial.

01:05:13.000 And you're like, everything's great!

01:05:15.000 It's a crazy way of looking at things.

01:05:17.000 Maybe he's super positive.

01:05:18.000 Call Dana.

01:05:18.000 He might be super positive.

01:05:19.000 Give me one of those beers.

01:05:23.000 It's a good beer, by the way.

01:05:24.000 Hey, you know what?

01:05:25.000 I appreciate...

01:05:25.000 Are you part of the company?

01:05:26.000 Yeah.

01:05:27.000 Nice.

01:05:28.000 It would be safer and it'd be easier.

01:05:30.000 It'd be better for the fire.

01:05:31.000 We'd get better performances if they weren't killing themselves.

01:05:34.000 Nuevo Star.

01:05:35.000 Nuevo.

01:05:36.000 That's the name of the company?

01:05:37.000 Trying to get me in trouble again, man.

01:05:38.000 There he goes.

01:05:40.000 Okay, what do we got here?

01:05:41.000 I love what's going on.

01:05:43.000 Chad LaPreece.

01:05:43.000 It's perfect.

01:05:44.000 And...

01:05:45.000 Screwy-ass, fucked-up judges and all that shit.

01:05:47.000 You never know who's gonna win.

01:05:48.000 Fuck yeah.

01:05:49.000 It adds to the excitement.

01:05:50.000 I love that shit.

01:05:51.000 Bro, Adelaide Berg, give me more.

01:05:53.000 And he's happy with what he has, okay guys?

01:05:55.000 Back off.

01:05:56.000 I'm appreciative.

01:05:58.000 I love the belts and all that shit.

01:06:00.000 I love the fact that if you're a champion and...

01:06:04.000 Knowing that if you don't take this fight, if you try to back off for whatever reason, maybe you fake an injury, maybe you don't fake an injury, maybe you don't want to get busted with steroids.

01:06:14.000 Whatever it is, I think it's good for them to know that, hey, if you fuck around, we're going to strip that fucking belt.

01:06:19.000 I like that.

01:06:21.000 Like, oh, I'm not gonna fight.

01:06:22.000 Oh, I hurt my ankle.

01:06:23.000 Oh, I hurt my shoulder.

01:06:24.000 You know what I mean?

01:06:25.000 You never know.

01:06:26.000 It's nice to know that you can't do that shit anytime you want.

01:06:29.000 We're gonna take your fucking belt, and we're gonna make you guys fight.

01:06:31.000 That's ridiculous.

01:06:32.000 Because if they're the champion, and the champion gets hurt in training, if they are clean, and they actually do get hurt, and they can't fight, you're just gonna take their belt?

01:06:39.000 That's crazy.

01:06:39.000 It adds excitement.

01:06:40.000 No.

01:06:40.000 I like it.

01:06:41.000 There's no stability.

01:06:43.000 I like it.

01:06:43.000 You're talking crazy.

01:06:44.000 Oh, come on.

01:06:45.000 You guys start a fighter's union.

01:06:48.000 You're a troublemaker.

01:06:49.000 He's a troublemaker, man.

01:06:50.000 He's kind of a positive troublemaker.

01:06:51.000 Hey, listen.

01:06:52.000 I love what's going on.

01:06:53.000 I love this shit.

01:06:54.000 And you love it, too.

01:06:55.000 We're having a fucking podcast because of this shit.

01:06:57.000 You're not even watching the fights.

01:06:58.000 I'm watching right here.

01:06:59.000 He's watching me.

01:07:00.000 He's watching me, man.

01:07:01.000 Who's winning?

01:07:03.000 Who's fighting is a better question for you.

01:07:04.000 Is that an American black guy or is that a Brazilian black guy?

01:07:07.000 Brazilian, man.

01:07:08.000 Okay, I don't know.

01:07:09.000 It's hard to tell.

01:07:10.000 Oh, the breeze with a nice right hand.

01:07:12.000 Holy shit.

01:07:13.000 He's throwing.

01:07:13.000 He's no joke.

01:07:15.000 This kid would be a handful in the ring.

01:07:18.000 You know what I mean, guys?

01:07:19.000 They got the jerseys color-coded, by the way, Eddie, so that'll give you a little heads up.

01:07:23.000 Green on the shorts means Brazil.

01:07:24.000 Do they make one guy wear...

01:07:25.000 Oh, really?

01:07:26.000 Yeah, green on the shorts.

01:07:27.000 I don't like that.

01:07:27.000 They should change that.

01:07:28.000 They should make them all wear the same shorts.

01:07:31.000 By the way.

01:07:32.000 Has anybody worn, like, have you ever seen someone wearing, like, those Reebok fighter kits?

01:07:36.000 Have you ever worn anybody in the street?

01:07:38.000 Haven't seen one.

01:07:39.000 I got the pants when I was in Andrew Craig's.

01:07:41.000 Come on, man.

01:07:42.000 No one's buying that shit.

01:07:43.000 You had to wear them?

01:07:44.000 Oh, yeah, they had them all laid out in a locker.

01:07:47.000 Wow.

01:07:47.000 They make you wear a sneaker?

01:07:48.000 Oh!

01:07:50.000 Damn, I missed it.

01:07:51.000 Damn!

01:07:52.000 Did they make you wear sneakers, too?

01:07:53.000 100%.

01:07:54.000 Socks, too.

01:07:54.000 Everything?

01:07:55.000 Only my underwear was socks.

01:07:56.000 Wow.

01:07:57.000 Oh, he pulled guard.

01:07:58.000 The only kid I've ever seen was at Aubrey Marcus' house.

01:08:02.000 It was hanging in your closet, and I was like, oh, cool.

01:08:04.000 I saved my shit from the Ben Saunders fight.

01:08:06.000 It's all bloody.

01:08:07.000 I saved that shit.

01:08:09.000 I'll never wear it.

01:08:10.000 I'm gonna frame it.

01:08:11.000 It'd be brutal if they made you give it up and then they sold it.

01:08:14.000 Sign it and sell it.

01:08:15.000 They sell it at eBay.

01:08:17.000 Worn kits.

01:08:18.000 Oh, look at this.

01:08:19.000 Hey, that's too hard.

01:08:20.000 That's too hard.

01:08:21.000 It's gonna ruin his brain.

01:08:22.000 Yeah, this one's over.

01:08:23.000 This is definitely gonna ruin his brain.

01:08:25.000 All these count.

01:08:26.000 All these count.

01:08:27.000 What about the downward elbow right there?

01:08:28.000 What happens then?

01:08:29.000 Fernando's a bad motherfucker.

01:08:31.000 Those aren't that hard.

01:08:33.000 They'll stop it, though.

01:08:34.000 That's it, bitch.

01:08:35.000 Damn.

01:08:35.000 Wow.

01:08:38.000 Nice.

01:08:39.000 Holy shit.

01:08:40.000 Francisco Trinaldo.

01:08:42.000 Where is Saskatoon, by the way?

01:08:44.000 Saskatoon is Saskatchewan, huh?

01:08:46.000 Yeah, I think it's the capital of Saskatchewan.

01:08:48.000 Is that where this is at?

01:08:49.000 I think.

01:08:49.000 Yeah.

01:08:50.000 Hey, Chris Beal already fought, right?

01:08:51.000 Saskatoon.

01:08:52.000 What happened?

01:08:53.000 Chris Beal fought?

01:08:54.000 Is that what you said?

01:08:54.000 Yes.

01:08:54.000 He's the black guy, right?

01:08:56.000 Yes.

01:08:57.000 Man, I just came from Gracie Worlds with Tate.

01:09:01.000 I didn't keep track of the prelims.

01:09:04.000 Man, I'm sad that Sam Stout got killed in the first round.

01:09:06.000 Me too, man.

01:09:06.000 That bumps me out.

01:09:08.000 What happened to Chris Beal?

01:09:09.000 I'm trying to find out right now.

01:09:10.000 Prelim results...

01:09:13.000 Fuck, man.

01:09:14.000 Super bummer for Sam Stout, man.

01:09:16.000 Sam retired.

01:09:16.000 He retired in the octagon after the fight.

01:09:19.000 Um, man.

01:09:21.000 Uh, do-do-do-do-do.

01:09:24.000 Arontes beat JoBoi.

01:09:27.000 Tapped him out.

01:09:29.000 Wait, Chris Beal lost?

01:09:30.000 Uh, no.

01:09:31.000 JoBoi is not Chris Beal.

01:09:33.000 I thought he said JoBoi.

01:09:34.000 Hold on.

01:09:34.000 I thought he said he beat JoBoi.

01:09:36.000 I was watching Chris Beal.

01:09:37.000 I think he won a decision, I think.

01:09:39.000 I'll tell you right now.

01:09:41.000 Um...

01:09:42.000 No, Beal lost.

01:09:44.000 In a decision joke?

01:09:45.000 Yeah.

01:09:45.000 Yeah, I wasn't watching close.

01:09:46.000 29 was a split decision.

01:09:48.000 It was a close fight.

01:09:49.000 Damn.

01:09:49.000 Yeah.

01:09:49.000 Oh, no, no.

01:09:50.000 It wasn't a split decision.

01:09:51.000 29, 28, 29, 28, 27, 30 for the Greek gentleman.

01:09:56.000 You trained with him, Eddie?

01:09:58.000 Yeah, and he's been coming out.

01:09:59.000 Okay.

01:09:59.000 He's a bad motherfucker, Chris Beale.

01:10:01.000 Yeah, hell yeah he is, dude.

01:10:03.000 Dude, Sam Stout, though, that's heartbreaking, man.

01:10:04.000 You guys know him?

01:10:05.000 He's such a good dude.

01:10:06.000 He just can't take a shot anymore.

01:10:08.000 Man, he's a good dude.

01:10:09.000 He's been doing it forever.

01:10:10.000 We've seen it so many times.

01:10:11.000 Guys that have an iron chin, and then all of a sudden, they reach a certain point, they can't take it anymore.

01:10:16.000 And a lighter guy.

01:10:17.000 A guy that's always cut a lot of weight.

01:10:19.000 You know, like a real legend, but always, always cut a lot of weight.

01:10:23.000 Yep.

01:10:24.000 Man, that stuff's real.

01:10:25.000 It stays with you.

01:10:26.000 And then the training.

01:10:27.000 You know, like, you always train, always being hit.

01:10:29.000 There's never a rest.

01:10:30.000 Yeah.

01:10:31.000 Yeah, it was interesting.

01:10:32.000 You guys watch Ultimate Insider, the John Anik show?

01:10:35.000 Good show.

01:10:36.000 And they had Rashad on.

01:10:37.000 Rashad was talking about how he used to train and how he trains now.

01:10:40.000 And they used to think that you had to beat yourself up so that, you know, you could be able to fight.

01:10:44.000 And he's like, no, that doesn't really work.

01:10:47.000 He's like, it's a good theory.

01:10:49.000 It's good in theory, but in actual practice, you just can't do that.

01:10:52.000 I think the thing is, I mean, the smart way, I think that there's only a few guys that are doing it, and I think Ronda probably does it, but the only good thing about sparring a lot is that it's not like you're staying sharp.

01:11:04.000 I think you're just learning you're tough, and you learn you can withstand stuff.

01:11:07.000 You're not getting better, but to hit mitts, to work on timing, all that stuff, I think after the first couple, three years of your fight, you don't need to spar ever.

01:11:15.000 What was Kenny doing?

01:11:16.000 You just don't.

01:11:17.000 Yeah, Tim Kennedy, we were talking about, and he goes, oh, I don't spar at all.

01:11:20.000 He goes, what I need to know, I can take a shot?

01:11:23.000 Because I've been fighting for how long?

01:11:24.000 Because I don't spar at all.

01:11:26.000 He goes, the only time we go live is when I'm inside the octagon.

01:11:30.000 And I've heard this from a number of fighters.

01:11:31.000 And there's a trend in NFL, too, and college.

01:11:34.000 There's a lot of college teams.

01:11:35.000 They do not hit anymore.

01:11:37.000 There's no more live practice.

01:11:38.000 These are top, top teams.

01:11:40.000 Don't you pay a price, though, when you're going full and distance and, like, I don't know.

01:11:45.000 It doesn't make a difference in speed, distance, and defense.

01:11:47.000 Well, when you've been doing it for that long, do you really, you know what I'm saying?

01:11:50.000 I don't know.

01:11:50.000 And you're hitting targets.

01:11:51.000 You've got a guy hitting mitts.

01:11:53.000 It's just like hitting somebody in the face.

01:11:54.000 Right.

01:11:54.000 You know, your footwork is the same.

01:11:56.000 You know, the guys that are holding mitts for these guys on the top are the fucking finest fighters in the world that are now holding mitts for guys.

01:12:02.000 I mean, you look at, like, a Bang Ludwig or a Mike Winklejohn that's holding mitts, a Brandon Gibson.

01:12:08.000 It's like, those guys are...

01:12:10.000 Fucking killers.

01:12:11.000 Don't get it twisted.

01:12:12.000 I heard Winklejohn has some serious power.

01:12:13.000 Oh!

01:12:14.000 He is so frightening.

01:12:15.000 I'd go into the gym, and he'd be in, and it'd be early in the morning, and he'll hold knits, and like, and I'd hear, whoop, [...

01:12:22.000 Like, just somebody beating the fuck out of a bag.

01:12:24.000 And it's just him back there.

01:12:25.000 It's dark.

01:12:26.000 It's so fucking eerie.

01:12:27.000 And just a bag taking a beating.

01:12:30.000 He was a world champ, right?

01:12:31.000 A world champ.

01:12:32.000 Multiple times.

01:12:33.000 Kickboxing.

01:12:33.000 Kickboxer.

01:12:34.000 Bad, bad, bad dude.

01:12:35.000 Like, compare him to somebody power-wise, like a Melvin?

01:12:38.000 Melvin Manhoof?

01:12:40.000 What kind of power has he got?

01:12:41.000 I don't know.

01:12:42.000 I heard he's ridiculous.

01:12:43.000 I heard his kicks have ridiculous power.

01:12:46.000 You're looking at him and I go, what's your workout?

01:12:47.000 What are you doing on the bag?

01:12:48.000 He goes, I'm doing nine minute rounds and it's just non-stop.

01:12:52.000 He's an animal.

01:12:53.000 It's like, whoop, [...

01:12:55.000 It's like the cadence is fucking crazy.

01:12:58.000 How big is he?

01:12:58.000 Is he a big guy?

01:12:59.000 Was he a heavyweight?

01:13:00.000 185, 190. He's probably not even that big.

01:13:03.000 But I just keep hearing from people.

01:13:05.000 They go, dude, you need to see that guy kick the bag.

01:13:08.000 They say he has ridiculous power.

01:13:10.000 Such a good dude.

01:13:11.000 The work ethic is amazing.

01:13:14.000 He's one of the toughest, kindest, most gracious dudes ever.

01:13:17.000 Helps everybody.

01:13:18.000 Well, he's the one training Holly Holmes, right?

01:13:21.000 Yeah, he's Holly Holmes.

01:13:22.000 I mean, he's been Holly's coach for ages.

01:13:28.000 You good on here, Jamie?

01:13:29.000 Since she was a boxer.

01:13:31.000 Let's try not to talk over each other, though, because we've got a lot of mics going on.

01:13:34.000 We've got five, seven mics.

01:13:36.000 Yeah, I don't know, man.

01:13:38.000 The Holly Holm fight is not as intriguing to me as Amanda Nunes would be.

01:13:43.000 I would just like to see Holly get maybe another one or two warm-ups, because we've seen her in the octagon, and she's just not putting it together yet to get to that level of Ronda.

01:13:51.000 And her big issue is the grappling, you know?

01:13:53.000 That's a huge issue.

01:13:55.000 With Ronda?

01:13:56.000 Yes.

01:13:58.000 She's very patient, too.

01:13:59.000 That's not really going to work against Ronda.

01:14:02.000 Ronda's going to come right after her.

01:14:03.000 She won't have time to be patient.

01:14:05.000 That's another thing, another drawback, I think, to being such a fine boxer in that arena.

01:14:10.000 You can be patient.

01:14:12.000 It's a long, drawn-out battle.

01:14:14.000 Ronda doesn't fight that way.

01:14:15.000 Who knows, though, man.

01:14:16.000 You never know.

01:14:17.000 Maybe Holly, because her stand-up is so much more refined, she's been doing it for so much longer, maybe she can keep Ronda away from her.

01:14:24.000 Who the fuck knows?

01:14:26.000 I'm serious.

01:14:27.000 I just think, honestly, the real problem is there's a lack of talent.

01:14:32.000 Like I said, I'm not mad at the UFC. I get it, man.

01:14:35.000 Let's at least let the world know who Holly is.

01:14:37.000 She's going to get all this marketing.

01:14:38.000 Ronda's only going to fight for so long.

01:14:40.000 Holly is a badass.

01:14:41.000 Whoever's managing Cyborg.

01:14:43.000 I think there's plenty of talent.

01:14:45.000 Ronda's just way better than all of them.

01:14:47.000 No, she fired him.

01:14:49.000 They still train together, though.

01:14:50.000 She needs to get with MC Hammer.

01:14:52.000 Go, Hammer.

01:14:53.000 Go.

01:14:54.000 He was doing that for a while, right?

01:14:55.000 Yeah.

01:14:56.000 He's my manager, son.

01:14:58.000 I was in an MC Hammer rap video.

01:14:59.000 Wait a minute.

01:15:00.000 I was in an MC Hammer rap video.

01:15:01.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:15:02.000 What happened with MC Hammer?

01:15:04.000 I was in a rap video, but I wasn't dancing.

01:15:05.000 What did you do in this room?

01:15:07.000 Is he out?

01:15:08.000 He's not in MMA no more?

01:15:10.000 What happened?

01:15:12.000 You can't touch this?

01:15:15.000 Seriously, though, I wondered what happened to MC Hammer.

01:15:18.000 He's not involved at all.

01:15:20.000 He's killing the game, man.

01:15:21.000 He's an investor in Facebook, Salesforce.

01:15:25.000 Money for gold or whatever is one of his deals.

01:15:27.000 Cash for gold.

01:15:28.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:15:28.000 Oh, so he's blowing up.

01:15:29.000 But no more MMA. He's a businessman.

01:15:31.000 No more MMA. He's got a lot of money.

01:15:33.000 Does he perform anymore?

01:15:34.000 I don't think so.

01:15:35.000 Oh, he does.

01:15:36.000 He does, man.

01:15:37.000 I just saw him...

01:15:38.000 With Digital Underground.

01:15:39.000 He could do Vegas for the next 20 years.

01:15:42.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:15:42.000 You went to see him?

01:15:44.000 You know, he came here.

01:15:45.000 And you left the house, and today I'm going to go see...

01:15:49.000 Yeah, I worked with him, man.

01:15:49.000 No, he's got all those big sponsors that everyone's giving me shit for.

01:15:53.000 All of those came from MC Hammer.

01:15:54.000 Salesforce, all that.

01:15:55.000 From MC Hammer.

01:15:56.000 Does he still have the pants?

01:15:56.000 Airbnb.

01:15:57.000 No.

01:15:58.000 I wish.

01:15:59.000 Those are the dopest pants.

01:16:00.000 He sells out in, like, Africa and shit.

01:16:02.000 You don't hear that.

01:16:03.000 That was the funniest thing I've ever said, dude.

01:16:07.000 Like in China.

01:16:08.000 Africa and shit.

01:16:10.000 Well, like in China, Expendable 17's huge.

01:16:13.000 But here we're like, what the fuck?

01:16:13.000 This is a good fight.

01:16:15.000 Cote and Berkman, this is a good fight.

01:16:16.000 It's a throwback to 2006 right there.

01:16:19.000 Can you imagine the numbers he does in the Congo?

01:16:22.000 No, I'm serious.

01:16:23.000 Holy shit.

01:16:24.000 He plays open air jungles.

01:16:27.000 Jiu-Jitsu with the gi.

01:16:29.000 Every day I improve with the gi.

01:16:30.000 Notice I'm doing things that no one can do in the fight because they don't have the grip.

01:16:35.000 No, he did not say that.

01:16:38.000 This is three years since he became a black belt today.

01:16:40.000 He's going to give him the first black stripe.

01:16:42.000 Charles Oliveira.

01:16:43.000 Damn, he had that piece of tape in his fucking collar.

01:16:45.000 That was awesome.

01:16:47.000 How cool is that?

01:16:47.000 Yeah.

01:16:48.000 You just learned the technique.

01:16:49.000 Oh, my friend.

01:16:51.000 My friend.

01:16:52.000 I think the girls in the game, too, right now, they've got to realize they've got way more power than they think because there is such a small amount of them that are valuable as talented fighters.

01:17:01.000 Yeah, man.

01:17:02.000 Ooh, I disagree.

01:17:04.000 I don't.

01:17:05.000 You disagree on what?

01:17:05.000 Who else are you going to get?

01:17:06.000 When you're looking at women to fight Ronda, Holly Holmes is the baddest woman walking, I think.

01:17:12.000 She's badass.

01:17:13.000 I think it's early for her, whatever, whatever.

01:17:15.000 However, how many more are out there?

01:17:17.000 Five?

01:17:18.000 Six?

01:17:18.000 Tate, my friend.

01:17:19.000 It's not like the UFC The Tough Show.

01:17:21.000 Listen to this, though, bro.

01:17:22.000 So Rhonda could fight, my mom could fight Rhonda at UFC 192 and they'd still sell as many pay-per-views.

01:17:27.000 It does not matter who she fights.

01:17:29.000 That's not true.

01:17:29.000 That's true.

01:17:30.000 It does not matter.

01:17:31.000 Bech Correa, America doesn't know who the fuck she is.

01:17:35.000 Holly Holmes, we know who she is.

01:17:37.000 Two of her friends.

01:17:38.000 It's like Roy Jones when he was in his prime and he was just starching everybody.

01:17:42.000 It doesn't matter.

01:17:42.000 It was the Roy Jones World Tour, you know?

01:17:45.000 Yeah, man.

01:17:45.000 We're paying to see Ronda beat up whoever.

01:17:48.000 Ronda's going to have to do things now.

01:17:49.000 She's going to have to do like a judo match during the day and then have like an MMA fight at night.

01:17:54.000 Remember when Roy Jones played basketball?

01:17:56.000 That's right.

01:17:56.000 He played basketball the day of a world title defense.

01:17:59.000 The day of!

01:18:00.000 Not the day before.

01:18:02.000 Day of!

01:18:03.000 Played basketball.

01:18:05.000 And then went out and whooped some ass at night.

01:18:07.000 You know, one of my favorite stories about that is John Jones chasing a guy down, a robber, a purse snatcher, in New York City.

01:18:13.000 Fucking runs him down, tackles him, retrieves the purse from the lady, holds the guy for the cops, and then goes, who's he not?

01:18:20.000 Shogun, right?

01:18:20.000 For the title.

01:18:21.000 Becomes the youngest ever champion.

01:18:23.000 That's like a made-up story.

01:18:25.000 That's fiction in its real life.

01:18:27.000 Someone's making that John Jones movie right now.

01:18:29.000 He's back training, by the way.

01:18:30.000 Hell yeah!

01:18:30.000 There's footage of him training at Jackson's right now.

01:18:33.000 Right away, right after he got in that trouble, Mr. Winklejohn was like, you're back in, help all the rest of the guys.

01:18:38.000 Whatever you're doing, you're doing, but help these guys.

01:18:39.000 And he was in right...

01:18:40.000 He's a good...

01:18:41.000 He's a stand-up dude, man.

01:18:42.000 The whole division's like, eee, fuck.

01:18:45.000 He's training again.

01:18:46.000 I saw him doing crunches.

01:18:47.000 Well, here's the problem.

01:18:49.000 Like, what's going to happen with him criminally?

01:18:51.000 You know, running away from...

01:18:53.000 It's a big fucking deal.

01:18:55.000 Running away from an accident.

01:18:56.000 It's a felony, right, Joe?

01:18:57.000 Because she got...

01:18:58.000 Broken bones, correct?

01:18:59.000 Yeah, it's a serious injury.

01:19:02.000 Not only that, he was of mind to come back and get whatever he needed from his car and then leave again.

01:19:08.000 The problem with that is, I'm not saying you should lie, but there's a defense that you could always use in a car accident that you got hit so hard in the head you didn't know what the fuck you were doing.

01:19:18.000 And then you left.

01:19:19.000 No one could use that argument better than a guy like Jon Jones.

01:19:23.000 Why is it taking so long?

01:19:25.000 I don't know how long it takes for these things.

01:19:27.000 I hate to say this, but that's why they always say if you are in a situation and you're drunk, people in the know will run away from the scene.

01:19:38.000 Because you can say, I hit my head and I was disoriented.

01:19:40.000 There's no way to prove.

01:19:42.000 Yes.

01:19:42.000 The next day that you weren't.

01:19:43.000 Exactly.

01:19:44.000 So leaving the scene is not...

01:19:45.000 The defense, and it wins, is I didn't know where I was, and I just...

01:19:48.000 I know he came back and got cash, though.

01:19:50.000 Even still?

01:19:51.000 No.

01:19:52.000 The difference with this is that somebody was hurt makes it felonious.

01:19:55.000 If you're just leaving the scene, not as bad a deal as a drunk driving.

01:19:59.000 Hurting somebody, leaving the scene, way worse.

01:20:02.000 Dude, I love the fact you used the word felonious.

01:20:04.000 I do, too.

01:20:04.000 Yeah, that was intense.

01:20:05.000 Felonious Monk.

01:20:06.000 I'm with it, though.

01:20:07.000 That should be a rapper, Felonious Monk.

01:20:09.000 You know, instead of Thelonious Monk?

01:20:11.000 There probably is a rat, I bet.

01:20:13.000 I bet you're right.

01:20:14.000 Let's look it up right now.

01:20:15.000 I bet you're totally right.

01:20:16.000 I bet you're wrong.

01:20:17.000 I bet that's easy, Eddie.

01:20:19.000 That's your shit.

01:20:19.000 Come back, take Verdum's belt, and take fucking...

01:20:23.000 That's exactly what's gonna happen, Aubrey.

01:20:26.000 He's become fresh out of prison.

01:20:28.000 Yeah, there's the guy.

01:20:29.000 His name is Thelonious Monk.

01:20:32.000 He was a great pianist and he went crazy.

01:20:36.000 Thelonious.

01:20:37.000 Thelonious went crazy.

01:20:38.000 He was a great jazz pianist.

01:20:39.000 He actually went crazy.

01:20:41.000 Even the best jazz pianist, you can keep him.

01:20:43.000 How about that?

01:20:44.000 He was a genius.

01:20:44.000 How about that?

01:20:45.000 You've got the nicest jazz penis I've ever seen.

01:20:47.000 I went to the LA County Museum of Art the other day.

01:20:51.000 Save your fucking brain cells.

01:20:54.000 Save your time.

01:20:55.000 I'm going to show you some pictures.

01:20:57.000 I'm not bullshitting.

01:20:58.000 There's a plexiglass box on the ground.

01:21:01.000 It was roped off.

01:21:02.000 I go, is that the art?

01:21:04.000 That's the art.

01:21:04.000 It is a plexiglass box.

01:21:07.000 And there's some bullshit written on the wall what this box is supposed to represent.

01:21:11.000 It's a fucking box!

01:21:12.000 I paid money to see a box.

01:21:15.000 It's a box.

01:21:15.000 Were your kids bored out of their minds?

01:21:17.000 Out of their mind.

01:21:18.000 They were ready to run through walls.

01:21:19.000 There was a critic who said that the reason that those kinds of things sold for millions of dollars was because a small group of people who are modern art aficionados wanted to be and feel really exclusive.

01:21:31.000 It was essentially like...

01:21:32.000 Assholes.

01:21:33.000 Yeah.

01:21:33.000 Assholes.

01:21:33.000 It's so bad.

01:21:34.000 The art there is so bad.

01:21:36.000 There's one piece of art.

01:21:38.000 There's a screen that has 18 different separate videos playing at the same time.

01:21:42.000 It's just people like throwing a ball to each other.

01:21:45.000 One guy's juggling.

01:21:47.000 One guy's smoking a cigarette.

01:21:48.000 It's so fucking dumb.

01:21:50.000 It's so dumb it made me angry.

01:21:53.000 I was like, I can't believe you fucks made me look at this.

01:21:56.000 One of them was supposed to represent tar and feathering.

01:22:00.000 So it was like a black background with some feathers on it.

01:22:03.000 I was like, I'll fucking kill you.

01:22:04.000 I'll fucking kill you if you put this in a museum.

01:22:07.000 And you paid to get in there?

01:22:07.000 I paid!

01:22:08.000 I didn't have to pay either because I'm a fucking resident of LA County.

01:22:11.000 I could have got in for free.

01:22:12.000 And a celebrity.

01:22:13.000 I'm like, let's contribute.

01:22:14.000 Let's contribute.

01:22:15.000 So we paid.

01:22:16.000 To get in.

01:22:17.000 I told you, there's nothing more maddening than a modern art exhibit.

01:22:21.000 Especially the art that came out of the 60s and 70s.

01:22:23.000 Rauschenberg and those guys.

01:22:24.000 Not only that, man.

01:22:25.000 The people that were so fucking pretentious.

01:22:28.000 Damien Lichtenstein and all those guys.

01:22:29.000 There's one of them is Junk.

01:22:31.000 There's an exhibit that they call Junk.

01:22:33.000 And you go there and it's just garbage that they've glued in frames.

01:22:37.000 It's so fucking stupid.

01:22:39.000 There's some place that they just opened where they opened it to a lot of street artists, and they just had blank walls in there, and they let that go, which I think has huge potential to be badass.

01:22:48.000 Well, some street artists are fucking amazing.

01:22:50.000 Really fucking amazing.

01:22:51.000 Super talented.

01:22:52.000 That dude never down in Venice.

01:22:56.000 You see him?

01:22:56.000 He did, like, Baby Blues.

01:22:57.000 He did a place by Clutch.

01:22:59.000 Oh, yeah, that he's never he is wicked red bands like red bands the one who really turned like He text me goes hey, dude cuz Justin boo his daughter trains at my school, and I don't know any artist I know Todd white.

01:23:12.000 That's it, and I didn't know who Justin boo.

01:23:15.000 Yeah, I'm not I'm not big in the artwork He's a painter of lots of shit, but he's known for painting hip-hop artists and doing weird-looking paintings of them that are insane.

01:23:30.000 He's got books and...

01:23:32.000 Anyways, Red Band wanted me to...

01:23:37.000 Well, that's why Red Band should do his own podcast.

01:23:39.000 I've been telling him forever.

01:23:40.000 You have all these interests that I don't have in.

01:23:42.000 You should do your own podcast.

01:23:44.000 You'd be good at a podcast.

01:23:45.000 Just start your own thing and do it.

01:23:47.000 Doesn't Red Band do his own?

01:23:48.000 I thought he had five of them.

01:23:49.000 Doesn't he have 16?

01:23:50.000 No.

01:23:51.000 He has this thing called Dysentery, but it just gets girls on.

01:23:53.000 He gets drunk and harasses them.

01:23:55.000 What?

01:23:56.000 It's called The Sexual Harassment of Brian Redband.

01:23:58.000 That's the name of the podcast.

01:23:59.000 What I'm saying is he should do like a show where he has guests on.

01:24:02.000 Call it like the Redband Show.

01:24:03.000 I thought he had that.

01:24:04.000 No, he doesn't.

01:24:05.000 That's Squad TV? No, he doesn't have any single podcast that's like the Redband Show.

01:24:10.000 He does Kill Tony.

01:24:11.000 He does all of them with other people.

01:24:12.000 But he would be good one-on-one.

01:24:15.000 Well, he knows.

01:24:15.000 But you know what?

01:24:16.000 He knows that he's like the engineer guy.

01:24:18.000 He's like the Dr. Dre of podcasts.

01:24:20.000 Well, he doesn't even act as an engineer on my show anymore.

01:24:23.000 He sits as like a co-host.

01:24:25.000 You know, I think he's better off when he's not distracted by computers in front of him and all this stuff.

01:24:29.000 First of all, he's so ADD. He'll just start Googling things.

01:24:32.000 I'll catch him going on his Facebook and like, we're doing a show.

01:24:36.000 Like, put your phone down just for a show.

01:24:37.000 But that's how his mind is.

01:24:39.000 Like, if you go to dinner with him, he's like that.

01:24:41.000 But that's also why he's got so much information on stuff that's going on on the internet.

01:24:46.000 I mean, he'll tell you, look, I'm looking for things to talk about.

01:24:49.000 Like, yeah, but you've got to kind of like talk.

01:24:52.000 But we're in an actual conversation now, currently.

01:24:55.000 It's not his fault, but what I'm saying is he would probably recognize that more if he was doing his own show.

01:25:00.000 Like if he did like the Red Band show.

01:25:02.000 It's not like you don't have time for it.

01:25:03.000 You only do my show like once or twice at the most a week.

01:25:06.000 You have all these other days.

01:25:07.000 You don't have another job.

01:25:09.000 It's like you could be really good at it.

01:25:11.000 I think he would really have a huge market.

01:25:14.000 Because I think he's a weird guy.

01:25:16.000 He's funny.

01:25:17.000 He says a lot of crazy, silly shit.

01:25:19.000 He's got a lot of varied, bizarre interests.

01:25:21.000 I think it would help him so people could see what he's really all about.

01:25:26.000 What people like about him.

01:25:27.000 It'd be better for him.

01:25:29.000 It would help his comedy, for sure.

01:25:31.000 Yeah, fuck yeah.

01:25:31.000 And then, like, a guy like this guy, like this artist, or, you know, he would expose people to things that he's into, because he's in a lot of, I mean, I find out about a lot of stuff from him.

01:25:39.000 He's into fringe stuff, right?

01:25:40.000 Yeah, a lot of weird stuff.

01:25:41.000 Well, that's the other thing, too, is if he was doing that, and he had a regular time, and he had to be true to somebody else, he invited a guest, it would hone his discipline, and if he did that...

01:25:49.000 Oh, no, did we just lose DirecTV?

01:25:50.000 Boom!

01:25:51.000 Ah, so close.

01:25:52.000 Wow, DirecTV almost shit.

01:25:54.000 Couple 35 year olds going at it.

01:25:56.000 I think that for almost everybody that is involved in stand-up comedy, doing your own podcast is a great idea.

01:26:04.000 Unless you don't need your Russell Peters or Louis CK, why bother?

01:26:08.000 You know, but for anybody else, like a guy like me, or for Bill Burr, I'm sure it's been gigantic for his career.

01:26:13.000 For Joey Diaz, it's been gigantic.

01:26:15.000 It's been gigantic for you.

01:26:16.000 It's been gigantic for you.

01:26:17.000 For me, it's been fucking amazing.

01:26:19.000 It's been a lifesaver for me, man.

01:26:20.000 Me too.

01:26:21.000 I think it's the best form of communication.

01:26:23.000 I just think more people should find what's true to them.

01:26:28.000 I know podcasts where guys work with other guys and they fucking wind up hating each other.

01:26:34.000 Eddie Ift had that with Jim Jeffries.

01:26:37.000 They had this great podcast together, but they couldn't keep it together together.

01:26:40.000 Now Eddie's got his own thing, talking shit.

01:26:42.000 He's had three different ones like that, like Eddie's gone through.

01:26:45.000 What was that about?

01:26:46.000 They just didn't get along?

01:26:47.000 It's hard, man.

01:26:48.000 Sometimes you want to talk and they're talking and sometimes you disagree and you don't want to discuss certain things or the things that you think are interesting they think are dumb and you get mad.

01:26:57.000 Never had that with my boy over here.

01:26:59.000 Well, that's one of the reasons why you guys work so well together.

01:27:00.000 You guys have interesting dynamics and you know when you say ridiculous shit that it's ridiculous and so you play along with it when everybody shits on you.

01:27:09.000 Right.

01:27:09.000 Because you're kind of semi-serious when you first bring things up and then you're not married to it and you realize along You've said, why does he just hit him with the right hand here?

01:27:18.000 And they're like, yeah, for sure, Brian.

01:27:20.000 And then it becomes, you kind of go with it.

01:27:23.000 No, guys, guys, I box.

01:27:24.000 No, guys.

01:27:25.000 No, clinically, I was reading a study, and it's a fact, actually.

01:27:29.000 That's like watching Sean Porter and George A. Moseley box, and I was like, I feel like I could navigate that kind of movement.

01:27:36.000 I literally think that sometimes because I'm watching it and I'm like, oh God.

01:27:39.000 And then your comedy turned into that same personality he was talking about.

01:27:44.000 You go out and you say, fuck, I wish I was a bad motherfucker.

01:27:48.000 I wish that knife throwing thing.

01:27:50.000 You just want to be this knife expert.

01:27:52.000 Meanwhile, we're missing a good fight.

01:27:53.000 It's a really good fight.

01:27:54.000 Berkman's lighting them up.

01:27:55.000 He's throwing a lot of kicks.

01:27:56.000 These guys know what is up.

01:28:00.000 I got Kote winning via TKL. Kote's Jiu-Jitsu has really improved.

01:28:07.000 Really improved.

01:28:08.000 I was really impressed with his takedowns and his Jiu-Jitsu in his last fight.

01:28:12.000 How about that he was the guy that went the longest with Anderson.

01:28:16.000 Well, before he blew his knee out.

01:28:18.000 Well, he exposed a fundamental flaw in Anderson's game.

01:28:20.000 That is, if you don't lead, he doesn't either.

01:28:22.000 True.

01:28:23.000 Oh!

01:28:25.000 No joke, man.

01:28:26.000 He stood in Lombard's face, man.

01:28:28.000 Very tough guy.

01:28:29.000 Choked out John Fitch in one round, put him to sleep.

01:28:32.000 That's right.

01:28:33.000 I forgot about that.

01:28:33.000 Caught him in that guillotine, put him to sleep.

01:28:35.000 He's a fucking veteran.

01:28:37.000 Yeah, he's been very good.

01:28:38.000 It was very good in World Series of Fighting.

01:28:40.000 Relaxed.

01:28:40.000 He doesn't want to fight since.

01:28:41.000 He's very calm coming back.

01:28:42.000 He doesn't want to fight in the UFC yet, correct?

01:28:44.000 Well, he fought Lombard, came in short notice, and wasn't feeling well for that fight either.

01:28:48.000 Then fought Stun Gun and got choked.

01:28:51.000 Did he get choked?

01:28:53.000 Which kind of choke was it?

01:28:54.000 He's lost four in a row, I think.

01:28:56.000 Berkman?

01:28:57.000 Tell you what, man.

01:28:58.000 I will always keep a guy like Berkman around.

01:29:00.000 He makes shit interesting.

01:29:01.000 Swings to the fences.

01:29:03.000 He's very smart.

01:29:04.000 He's a good dude.

01:29:06.000 His boxing is very good.

01:29:08.000 Dude, he fucking hurt Cotain.

01:29:09.000 That's the guillotine.

01:29:11.000 That's the shit, man.

01:29:12.000 He lost the left hand.

01:29:14.000 That left hand he tagged him with?

01:29:16.000 Dude, he hits hard.

01:29:18.000 And you know what else about Berkman?

01:29:19.000 He's real calm in there.

01:29:21.000 Very.

01:29:21.000 He gets real relaxed.

01:29:23.000 Look at him right now.

01:29:24.000 He doesn't expend his energy.

01:29:25.000 He also went through some significant injuries with his back.

01:29:29.000 Oh, that's right.

01:29:29.000 Yeah, he healed it up in some weird way.

01:29:31.000 He was talking to me about it, and I really didn't understand it, and I wanted to go more in-depth with him.

01:29:35.000 But he said he did, like, balance work, and, like, it was a lot of positive thinking.

01:29:41.000 What kind of injury are we talking about?

01:29:42.000 The dude from Westside Barbell?

01:29:44.000 Bulging discs.

01:29:45.000 The dude from Westside Barbell, he broke his back in, like, five different ways.

01:29:48.000 Louis Simmons?

01:29:48.000 Louis Simmons.

01:29:49.000 Yeah.

01:29:49.000 And Shane Sweat, he's one of his main instructors, he was saying that that's why he developed the reverse hyper machine.

01:29:56.000 Mm-hmm.

01:29:57.000 Specifically to heal his back.

01:29:58.000 And he healed his back by himself.

01:30:00.000 Five breaks in his fucking spine.

01:30:02.000 They all wanted to cut him open.

01:30:04.000 They all wanted to fuse his discs.

01:30:06.000 That's a bad dude, man.

01:30:07.000 He's a bad motherfucker.

01:30:09.000 Those guys talk about transfer of power, man, in a huge way.

01:30:12.000 When you see tip-tap boxing and all that stuff and what is making guys turn it over, that stuff is trained.

01:30:18.000 You can change.

01:30:20.000 Everybody's like, oh, he's got knockout power.

01:30:21.000 He doesn't.

01:30:22.000 You can give that to somebody.

01:30:24.000 You can train yourself.

01:30:24.000 Sort of.

01:30:25.000 I've never seen anybody that is a pity-pat puncher become a bomber.

01:30:28.000 Look at his takedown defense.

01:30:29.000 Look at Berksman's takedown defense.

01:30:30.000 Nobody trains it either.

01:30:31.000 Nobody trains it either, but like a George Foreman guy, you don't have to train that shit.

01:30:34.000 Sure.

01:30:35.000 There's guys you don't have to, but it doesn't mean that it's outside of the realm of others' possibility.

01:30:40.000 That is true.

01:30:40.000 I mean, I think it has to do with your ability to cover distance in a very quick amount of time, but it also has to do with bone mass.

01:30:47.000 Sure.

01:30:48.000 Bone mass is undeniable when it comes to punching.

01:30:49.000 It's not a weird secret that people with giant hands hit way fucking harder.

01:30:54.000 They just do.

01:30:55.000 But even like you look at Little Dodson, he's not a huge guy by any means.

01:30:59.000 He's explosive.

01:31:00.000 And he puts guys down.

01:31:02.000 He's so ridiculous and fast.

01:31:04.000 Like a heavyweight.

01:31:04.000 So fast.

01:31:05.000 He's explosive.

01:31:05.000 He was born.

01:31:06.000 He turns his hips over like that.

01:31:08.000 No, no, no.

01:31:10.000 He's got some serious speed.

01:31:12.000 Every movement that he makes is 100%.

01:31:15.000 This is a good fucking fight, man.

01:31:17.000 Nice short elbows by Kote there.

01:31:18.000 I slept on Berkman.

01:31:19.000 I thought he was going to get starched by Hector Lombard, a juiced up Hector Lombard, and he freaking rolled that thing out, man.

01:31:26.000 Yeah, he's tough as fuck, dude.

01:31:27.000 Did Lombard get popped for juice soon?

01:31:28.000 He got popped for that fight.

01:31:30.000 Oh, Jesus, these guys are going off.

01:31:32.000 Yeah, and...

01:31:33.000 Kote is fucking tough.

01:31:36.000 God, he's tough, man.

01:31:37.000 He's one of the toughest guys as far as his ability to take a shot and keep his confidence.

01:31:42.000 He looks like he's in a different weight class than Bergman.

01:31:44.000 Well, he has.

01:31:44.000 He fought at 185 for the title.

01:31:46.000 And he was a 205 or two.

01:31:48.000 He's a good analyst, too.

01:31:49.000 He fought Tito in his first fight in the UFC. He knocked Tito down and surprised him a lot.

01:31:53.000 He's a bad motherfucker.

01:31:54.000 Look at him.

01:31:55.000 He's got a lot better with his grappling.

01:31:57.000 His grappling has really improved in a big way.

01:31:59.000 He broke his hands.

01:32:01.000 Oh!

01:32:02.000 It's over!

01:32:03.000 Oh!

01:32:04.000 Berkman is fucking hurt!

01:32:05.000 Look at Berkman swinging fast.

01:32:08.000 I love Berkman.

01:32:11.000 He's still hurt, man.

01:32:12.000 He's still hurt.

01:32:13.000 He doesn't know where he was when he threw that.

01:32:15.000 He has no idea.

01:32:16.000 Wow.

01:32:17.000 Wow.

01:32:19.000 He's like, I'm over here trying to pretend I'm unfazed by that.

01:32:21.000 I'm just going to walk it off.

01:32:23.000 I hope I'm walking the right direction.

01:32:24.000 Are these my coaches?

01:32:26.000 Jesus Christ.

01:32:28.000 When he caught Patrick with that shot, and you know guys hit pretty well when he's like, I'm going to just change directions, go right for a double leg right now and not even think about it.

01:32:36.000 True.

01:32:37.000 Oof.

01:32:39.000 That single leg is not finished all that often, but someone who does it really well, I think, is Shogun.

01:32:44.000 Like, I see him finish that single leg a lot.

01:32:47.000 The best is DC. If he gets a whole motion, you're like, you're going for a ride.

01:32:51.000 But does he go to the crotch?

01:32:53.000 Shogun, I'm not a wrestler, I don't really know, but he seems to do it a different way.

01:32:57.000 He snaps it.

01:32:58.000 He knows how to snap it.

01:32:59.000 He knows how to straighten your leg out and snap you down.

01:33:01.000 But in my opinion, the scariest is Nurmagomedov.

01:33:04.000 Nurmagomedov, that motherfucker outgrapples everybody.

01:33:07.000 True.

01:33:07.000 Like, you see him get a hold of people, he just ragdolls everybody.

01:33:10.000 It's the way he's doing it that's so confusing.

01:33:13.000 Like, Dos Anjos is strong as fuck, and he's a really good grappler.

01:33:17.000 And when you see him fight Nurmagomedov, Nurmagomedov's like, eh, not today.

01:33:21.000 I think you'll be on bottom for a while, eating elbow sandwiches.

01:33:24.000 He beat Dos Anjos.

01:33:26.000 He beat everybody.

01:33:29.000 He beat everybody.

01:33:30.000 That combat sambo.

01:33:31.000 Oh, look at that right hand!

01:33:33.000 Combat sambo.

01:33:34.000 He was a world champion sambo, but wasn't he also a high-level wrestler?

01:33:37.000 He can wrestle, for sure.

01:33:38.000 But his background is primarily soundball.

01:33:41.000 I don't know if he has experience.

01:33:43.000 He drew a lot of Greco in that shit.

01:33:44.000 Tony got a little better wrestling than Rafael Dos Anjos.

01:33:49.000 Tony Ferguson?

01:33:51.000 Oh, you're saying better wrestling than Dos Anjos?

01:33:53.000 Yes.

01:33:54.000 Ooh, that's tough.

01:33:55.000 Come on, man.

01:33:56.000 Tony wrestled in college.

01:33:57.000 Tony is a real wrestler.

01:33:59.000 I agree.

01:34:00.000 Dos Anjos is a world champion.

01:34:02.000 Tony wrestled in high school and college and he's legit.

01:34:05.000 American.

01:34:05.000 He's legit.

01:34:06.000 Freestyle.

01:34:07.000 America.

01:34:07.000 Trust me.

01:34:08.000 He's a legit wrestler.

01:34:09.000 No, I'm with you, but I'm talking about UFC grappling wrestling.

01:34:12.000 Rafael Dos Anjos is a jiu-jitsu guy.

01:34:14.000 He's from Brazil.

01:34:15.000 There's three wrestlers in Brazil.

01:34:17.000 I know, but in the UFC, he's the champ.

01:34:20.000 They have a team.

01:34:28.000 How weird was it that Hinata Babalu was that Brazilian MMA fighter that was a wrestler.

01:34:35.000 He was the only Brazilian wrestler out there.

01:34:38.000 You don't have a lot of big wrestlers to come out of Brazil.

01:34:41.000 Hinata Babalu was a wrestler.

01:34:42.000 You know who does an amazing job with a single leg is Glover Teixeira.

01:34:46.000 The way he runs that pike when he grabs that.

01:34:49.000 That's a great wrestling.

01:34:50.000 Another Brazilian who can wrestle?

01:34:52.000 That's a basic pike run.

01:34:53.000 A lot of Brazilians can wrestle now.

01:34:54.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:34:55.000 Well, Glover can do it because of Chuck Liddell.

01:34:57.000 It's different when you're raised that way and you're going to junior high school and you're wrestling and then you're going to high school and then you're going to college.

01:35:03.000 I mean, those Brazilians would go to Cuba.

01:35:04.000 You guys can't talk over each other.

01:35:06.000 I'm going to explode.

01:35:08.000 If Glover grabs your leg, if you're single leg, he's the one guy that your takedown defense probably isn't going to work too well.

01:35:13.000 He was doing basic stuff, too.

01:35:15.000 What's really impressive, there's a video of your boy Cyborg, the other Cyborg, Roberto Abru.

01:35:20.000 Cyborg Abru?

01:35:21.000 Yeah, he's doing these drills.

01:35:23.000 God damn, that guy moves good.

01:35:24.000 Tornado drills or what?

01:35:25.000 He's doing drills, like guard pass drills.

01:35:28.000 Jamie, go look at CyborgBJJ on Instagram and pull up the video.

01:35:33.000 Just watch how he moves for a 235 pound guy.

01:35:36.000 I know what you're talking about.

01:35:37.000 He passes, knee on the belly, and then the guy rolls into him and then he jumps to the back.

01:35:42.000 Dude, you saw the video today?

01:35:44.000 Yeah.

01:35:44.000 Amazing, right?

01:35:45.000 Was it today?

01:35:45.000 Yeah.

01:35:46.000 No, I'm talking about a video from like a week ago.

01:35:47.000 Oh, well, I'm sure he's got a bunch.

01:35:49.000 Did you post it, Joe?

01:35:50.000 No, he posted it.

01:35:51.000 Look at this.

01:35:52.000 Watch it, Jetty.

01:35:52.000 Eddie.

01:35:53.000 Jetty.

01:35:53.000 I'm sorry.

01:35:54.000 Eddie, watch this.

01:35:55.000 No, no, this is a different one, Jamie.

01:35:57.000 This is him.

01:35:58.000 That's him.

01:35:59.000 That's just an escape that he does.

01:36:01.000 That one, right-hand corner.

01:36:03.000 This is it.

01:36:03.000 Watch this shit.

01:36:04.000 Watch this pass.

01:36:05.000 I've seen this, yeah.

01:36:06.000 Look how fast this motherfucker moves.

01:36:07.000 When he rolls into him, he gets side control.

01:36:09.000 Look at that.

01:36:09.000 Jesus.

01:36:09.000 He's a big guy, man.

01:36:11.000 Look at this.

01:36:12.000 For a guy this big to move that well.

01:36:14.000 I mean, fuck.

01:36:16.000 Freak.

01:36:16.000 What's that hat he has on?

01:36:18.000 It's ear guards, brother.

01:36:19.000 How dare you?

01:36:20.000 How dare you, Tate?

01:36:22.000 Beautiful.

01:36:22.000 I mean, I'm so impressed with that.

01:36:25.000 I mean, I can't imagine.

01:36:26.000 That's a 240-pound man that can move like that.

01:36:29.000 That's fucking crazy.

01:36:30.000 That's how big he is, right?

01:36:31.000 He's about 240?

01:36:32.000 Yeah, 240. Man.

01:36:34.000 Matt Morris think he was 230. He's a fucking panther.

01:36:36.000 I mean, he really is a panther.

01:36:38.000 That is freakish.

01:36:40.000 He beat Buchecha the last time they competed.

01:36:44.000 He's a freak, man.

01:36:45.000 He is as good as he gets when it comes to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

01:36:49.000 That guy's as good as he gets.

01:36:50.000 He's a monster.

01:36:51.000 So strong.

01:36:52.000 He's different from a lot of those guys in his physical preparation, too.

01:36:56.000 He puts all these videos up of the strength and conditioning shit that he does.

01:36:59.000 Fuck.

01:37:00.000 Fuck!

01:37:00.000 Like NFL combine shit.

01:37:02.000 That motherfucker is running with rubber bands pulling them and shit.

01:37:05.000 He's a true pro.

01:37:06.000 Yeah, he's a true pro.

01:37:07.000 He's like a real pro.

01:37:09.000 Super nice guy, too.

01:37:11.000 Really nice guy.

01:37:12.000 Great guy, man.

01:37:12.000 Real positive online.

01:37:14.000 Real, like, inspirational online.

01:37:16.000 I'm a huge fan of his.

01:37:17.000 I'm gonna follow him.

01:37:19.000 Were you bummed out that people were mad at you about that Metamorris bout?

01:37:22.000 Are you talking about the shop shutdown?

01:37:23.000 Yeah.

01:37:24.000 What is that?

01:37:26.000 Brandon Schaub just shut down all of his takedowns and just made him stand up there and realize, if I don't want this fight to go to the ground, you're not going to get me to the ground.

01:37:36.000 But then I went in his guard eight times.

01:37:38.000 Yeah, you did.

01:37:39.000 After a while.

01:37:40.000 Cool, check this out.

01:37:41.000 I'll go on your guard.

01:37:41.000 But the first thing you did, and you did this within a couple months of a UFC fight, and everybody was mad at you, but I was like, well, listen, you've got to look at it this way.

01:37:49.000 The guy's a professional MMA fighter.

01:37:51.000 The other guy who's fighting is known for tearing knees to pieces.

01:37:54.000 Like, this is...

01:37:56.000 Oh, look at this, Berkman!

01:37:56.000 Look at that guillotine again!

01:37:58.000 It wasn't even that, Joe.

01:37:59.000 It was more like...

01:38:01.000 It's not worth the risk.

01:38:02.000 Well, not even that.

01:38:03.000 I wouldn't have signed up if it wasn't for that.

01:38:06.000 The plan was to wear him out.

01:38:07.000 I wanted to keep shooting, keep shooting, so I could get a hold of his neck.

01:38:10.000 Because all my stuff is in transitions.

01:38:12.000 He knew this.

01:38:13.000 So he stopped shooting, and then he just sat to his butt.

01:38:17.000 I was like, well, we gotta get something going here.

01:38:18.000 So that's why I kept going to his guard.

01:38:20.000 So your whole game plan was to try to catch him as he was trying to take you down.

01:38:24.000 Yes, and then when he decided to sit to his butt, I was like, I didn't even think of that.

01:38:27.000 I'm like, well, fuck.

01:38:28.000 And then you get that kind of weird...

01:38:30.000 Like, he's not engaging, I didn't, you know?

01:38:32.000 Even when you were actually grappling, he never was able to put you in a weird position.

01:38:35.000 No.

01:38:35.000 You should really do some Adam Morris type shit, dude.

01:38:38.000 I would love to, man.

01:38:38.000 I don't know what Hullick's deal is.

01:38:39.000 Or Eddie Bravo, Invitational, a super fight in the heavyweight division...

01:38:46.000 Eddie, who you got for him?

01:38:47.000 What's up, Eddie?

01:38:48.000 In Austin, Texas.

01:38:50.000 Hey, we might be able to promote.

01:38:53.000 Want to do Cyborg?

01:38:54.000 Can I get someone else?

01:38:55.000 We've already been there.

01:38:56.000 We've already been there.

01:38:57.000 I want to see part two.

01:38:59.000 I just saw that guard passing.

01:39:01.000 I need somebody else.

01:39:02.000 Now that I know, what you was trying to do to me is catch me when I come in for the shot.

01:39:05.000 Because you're not going to be able to do that in overtime, EBI overtime.

01:39:07.000 You ain't going to be able to do that.

01:39:09.000 I'm not worried about that.

01:39:11.000 There's only one guy in the world who I do that to, and that's Cyborg.

01:39:15.000 Hey, you know what?

01:39:16.000 When the rule set says that if there's no submission at the end of 15 minutes or 20 minutes, it's a draw, I would do the exact same thing.

01:39:27.000 If I'm going with a guy that was fucking crazy dangerous, I'd rather take the goddamn draw than get choked out, or I would do the same goddamn thing.

01:39:34.000 Well, no, that wasn't my plan.

01:39:35.000 Oh, let's just go to a draw.

01:39:37.000 My plan was to choke his ass out in a darts or a guillotine.

01:39:41.000 That was the plan to get him shooting to open up and transition.

01:39:44.000 Dude, if you submitted Cyborg, do you know how goddamn big that would be?

01:39:48.000 Yeah, I do.

01:39:49.000 That's why I signed up for it.

01:39:50.000 Holy shit.

01:39:51.000 I would be super fucking cautious.

01:39:54.000 Are you kidding me?

01:39:55.000 Super cautious.

01:39:56.000 I would be cautious.

01:39:57.000 This is Cyborg?

01:39:59.000 Oh, damn.

01:40:00.000 Dude, Bergman is a bad motherfucker.

01:40:02.000 Oh!

01:40:03.000 Look at this.

01:40:04.000 He came out a different fighter.

01:40:06.000 Bergman is hurting Cote.

01:40:06.000 Joe Bergman.

01:40:08.000 Oh my god, and he returns!

01:40:10.000 Returns fire!

01:40:11.000 Holy shit!

01:40:12.000 He's tough, man!

01:40:13.000 These guys are rough!

01:40:14.000 Oh my god!

01:40:15.000 Damn!

01:40:16.000 He tagged him again!

01:40:17.000 He's wobbled!

01:40:18.000 Damn, Berkman is so accurate!

01:40:21.000 Berkman's a great fighter, man!

01:40:24.000 He's so calm in the pocket, too.

01:40:27.000 It's the football.

01:40:28.000 Super.

01:40:28.000 Yeah, he doesn't get emotional, does he?

01:40:30.000 No.

01:40:30.000 He stays way calm.

01:40:31.000 Especially coming after.

01:40:32.000 Oh!

01:40:33.000 He sees everything that way, you know?

01:40:35.000 He's a real veteran.

01:40:36.000 But so is Cote, man.

01:40:38.000 He really is.

01:40:39.000 Cote is as calm as they get under fire.

01:40:42.000 Cote's one of the hardest hitters at 70, man.

01:40:44.000 Jesus Christ.

01:40:45.000 Is he though?

01:40:46.000 I think so.

01:40:46.000 Because don't you think that the cut down to 170 has maybe diminished a bit of that?

01:40:51.000 Because it's hard.

01:40:51.000 He's not the same.

01:40:52.000 He's lost physical size.

01:40:54.000 True, but he's still a big 70er.

01:40:56.000 Yes, he's big, for sure.

01:40:57.000 But we haven't really been seeing him knock guys out like he did.

01:41:00.000 Oh!

01:41:04.000 I'm sorry, I missed that last part.

01:41:06.000 What were you saying?

01:41:07.000 Oh my god.

01:41:08.000 Dude, how tough is Berkman?

01:41:10.000 How tough is Berkman?

01:41:11.000 He's almost back up.

01:41:12.000 Don't stop it!

01:41:13.000 Don't stop it!

01:41:14.000 Don't stop it!

01:41:14.000 Oh, that's it!

01:41:15.000 That's it!

01:41:16.000 Could that not have been Berkman?

01:41:18.000 That was a perfect timing.

01:41:19.000 There's never been a better timing ever.

01:41:22.000 You're like, he's not really knocking guys up.

01:41:24.000 Boom!

01:41:24.000 Dude, I'll go power at 170. Listen to me, Joe Rogan.

01:41:27.000 I carry power.

01:41:29.000 At 170 as well as 185. I think it's a great cut for him, too.

01:41:34.000 I mean, that's the third round, and he's not tired at all.

01:41:37.000 That was fucking amazing.

01:41:38.000 That was a hell of a fight.

01:41:40.000 What a fight.

01:41:40.000 And you've got to think how rocked he got early in that round.

01:41:44.000 Yes.

01:41:44.000 Well, he was covering up, and Berkman was going off on him.

01:41:47.000 That motherfucker is tough as shit.

01:41:51.000 That was dope.

01:41:52.000 Goddamn, that right hand was picture-perfect, too.

01:41:56.000 It's a huge fight in front of all his fans, too, in Canada.

01:41:59.000 And a war!

01:42:01.000 That's like the sweetest victory.

01:42:03.000 Because it's one where, you know, you pull yourself out of the fire.

01:42:07.000 Fuck.

01:42:08.000 Like, you see the benefits from your training and your camp.

01:42:11.000 He was in a couple spots where he was in a lot of trouble.

01:42:13.000 Oh, my goodness.

01:42:14.000 But that right hand was so beautiful.

01:42:16.000 Look how he sets it up, too.

01:42:18.000 Faints with the jab first.

01:42:20.000 Still didn't knock him out cold.

01:42:22.000 Oh, Josh Berkman's tough as fuck.

01:42:24.000 Tough as fuck.

01:42:25.000 Berkman almost got up.

01:42:26.000 Yes.

01:42:26.000 You know what?

01:42:27.000 And I'll tell you what.

01:42:27.000 If they didn't stop the fight, Berkman would have eventually gotten up.

01:42:31.000 Watch.

01:42:31.000 What he does here, he goes, I don't want to come up.

01:42:33.000 I'm going to pull guard.

01:42:34.000 He rolls to his back here.

01:42:35.000 He's not like...

01:42:37.000 He's right there.

01:42:38.000 Yeah.

01:42:39.000 Right?

01:42:39.000 Yeah, they probably shouldn't have stopped it.

01:42:41.000 But either way, whatever.

01:42:42.000 He wasn't upset that they stopped it either, though.

01:42:45.000 Powerful Patrick Cote.

01:42:47.000 Well, he knows.

01:42:48.000 I mean, he knows.

01:42:48.000 He got a bomb dropped on his chin.

01:42:51.000 I love how he set it up, too.

01:42:53.000 The pawing with the jab to get that distance.

01:42:55.000 Then, boom!

01:42:57.000 Fight of the night so far.

01:42:58.000 Oh, yeah.

01:42:59.000 I commentated a fight where the ref stopped it early, and the guy was complaining that it stopped it early.

01:43:04.000 So the ref said, this was in the hall, and the ref said, okay, fight again.

01:43:08.000 So the guy got knocked out again.

01:43:10.000 Oh, hell no.

01:43:11.000 I don't want to throw the fighter under the bus.

01:43:14.000 He's a really nice guy.

01:43:15.000 What organization, King of Kids?

01:43:16.000 Too hot to handle.

01:43:18.000 The guy complained.

01:43:19.000 He was complaining, why did you stop it?

01:43:21.000 I wasn't rocked.

01:43:21.000 He goes, you were out.

01:43:22.000 I wasn't rocked.

01:43:23.000 And the ref said...

01:43:24.000 Alright, let's go again.

01:43:26.000 And then he backed up in the corner so you could see it in his eyes.

01:43:29.000 He's like, fuck.

01:43:30.000 He never thought the ref would continue the fight.

01:43:33.000 Hasn't that happened in the UFC before where they're like, no, no, watch the replay.

01:43:37.000 You're unconscious.

01:43:39.000 Well, not, but Murillo Bustamante had to tap Matt Lindon out twice.

01:43:45.000 Remember that?

01:43:46.000 Yeah.

01:43:46.000 Why?

01:43:47.000 What do you mean?

01:43:47.000 Big John McCarthy fucked up.

01:43:49.000 Matt Lindland, he caught Matt Lindland in an arm bar.

01:43:51.000 Matt Lindland tapped, and then he said he didn't tap, so he was just trying to change his position.

01:43:55.000 And so they made him fight again, and then the next round, Murillo, I think, caught him in a guillotine.

01:44:01.000 Pretty sure it was a guillotine.

01:44:02.000 But he had to tap him twice.

01:44:04.000 Right.

01:44:05.000 Because, you know, it's an error by the referee.

01:44:07.000 Hey, bro.

01:44:08.000 I'm just trying to change position.

01:44:10.000 Well, I think John saw the arm was fully straightened out.

01:44:14.000 Saw he's fighting Bustamante.

01:44:15.000 Saw, you ain't getting out of that.

01:44:17.000 No, that's legit.

01:44:17.000 Stop, man.

01:44:19.000 That's Carlson Gracie's original squad of black belts.

01:44:22.000 Tall man, too.

01:44:23.000 He's good, man.

01:44:24.000 He's good.

01:44:24.000 And Matt Lindland, you know, he's a fucking competitor.

01:44:27.000 You could say that about him.

01:44:28.000 He bit somebody while I was wrestling with him.

01:44:30.000 He did?

01:44:30.000 Yeah, he was like one of his amateur wrestling matches.

01:44:33.000 He bit some dude.

01:44:34.000 He would always gross me out with all that tobacco on his upper lip type tobacco dude.

01:44:40.000 Straight hillbilly shit.

01:44:41.000 He was one of the toughest guys alive for a little while.

01:44:44.000 Oh, that whole squad up there.

01:44:46.000 Yeah, he was one of the toughest 185 pounders in the world.

01:44:49.000 When Randy was up there.

01:44:51.000 Well, that's when he fought David Terrell, when David Terrell was a real threat.

01:44:55.000 Dude, he was a savage.

01:44:56.000 David Terrell knocked him out.

01:44:57.000 David Terrell was terrifying.

01:44:58.000 I remember him on Grappler's Quest, and he was just ripping heads off.

01:45:05.000 Yeah.

01:45:05.000 I heard in the gym he's like the biggest freak.

01:45:08.000 He's a monster.

01:45:08.000 I heard he's an absolute nightmare to grapple with.

01:45:10.000 Well, you should see him fucking go back and watch his early Abu Dhabis.

01:45:14.000 Dude, Dave Terrell was a monster.

01:45:16.000 Oh, I'm familiar with him.

01:45:16.000 He's a super monster.

01:45:17.000 I'm a huge fan.

01:45:18.000 You know, he had some serious fucking infections in his ear from Cauliflower where they had to remove his ear.

01:45:24.000 They cut his ear off his head and they had to scrape it out and there's all pus and everything in there.

01:45:29.000 I think they had to wind up cauterizing inside his ear.

01:45:32.000 He had some serious fucking ear problems.

01:45:35.000 I had no idea about that.

01:45:35.000 Dude, cauliflower ear, you know, most of it, you look at Cote's ear right there, most of it is just cosmetic, but there are times where you get ear problems where it goes deep inside the ear and you're in a big fucking terrible situation.

01:45:48.000 The worst I've ever seen is guys when they, like on the outside it's not a big deal, but when it starts to close off and then their hearing is mitigated.

01:45:55.000 Oh yeah, and they get staph.

01:45:57.000 You get staph inside your ear too.

01:45:58.000 That's another thing that can happen.

01:46:00.000 Yeah.

01:46:00.000 Yeah, it's fucking, it's terrifying.

01:46:03.000 Oh my god.

01:46:04.000 What a perfect timing.

01:46:06.000 Crazy that didn't put him out.

01:46:08.000 Oh my god.

01:46:09.000 Right on the button.

01:46:11.000 Cote.

01:46:12.000 Cote's still getting better.

01:46:13.000 It's amazing.

01:46:14.000 It's awesome to see, man.

01:46:15.000 He just, he never loses his enthusiasm for it.

01:46:18.000 It'd be cool if we could press a button, like a mute button, where he could say some shit that you wouldn't want to say on air, but you just want to tell everyone else.

01:46:25.000 Like what?

01:46:26.000 No, I'm just saying.

01:46:27.000 Throughout the night.

01:46:27.000 I feel like you've got something right now.

01:46:30.000 You think that right now?

01:46:31.000 No, no, no, no.

01:46:32.000 Just throughout the UFC in general.

01:46:35.000 It'd be nice to have a mute button.

01:46:36.000 Patrick Cote, I'm sure, is kind of sensitive.

01:46:38.000 He's thinking maybe you're talking shit about him.

01:46:39.000 Hey, I love Patrick Cote.

01:46:41.000 Are you kidding?

01:46:42.000 Josh Berkman.

01:46:42.000 Love him to death.

01:46:43.000 Motherfucker.

01:46:44.000 I'm just talking in general.

01:46:45.000 See, that's a fight where I agree that you almost shouldn't cut Berkman.

01:46:49.000 He's a fucking animal.

01:46:50.000 He's an animal.

01:46:51.000 Why cut him?

01:46:52.000 He's entertaining too.

01:46:53.000 And by the way, he beats a lot of guys in that division.

01:46:56.000 A ton of guys.

01:46:57.000 A lot of guys.

01:46:57.000 If you give him the right matchups.

01:46:59.000 But there comes a point where...

01:47:01.000 You've beat so many good guys, they're not going to give you those easy matchups.

01:47:04.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:47:05.000 You're such a veteran.

01:47:07.000 Like this guy.

01:47:07.000 How about that matchup?

01:47:09.000 Is there anybody more explosive than that guy?

01:47:12.000 Is he straight out of Compton?

01:47:14.000 No.

01:47:14.000 I heard he was in it, though.

01:47:15.000 Did you see him?

01:47:16.000 There's a video with him and this bodybuilder guy, and they're doing all these bodybuilder exercises.

01:47:20.000 I was going to say, he might help.

01:47:21.000 I sent it to my friend who's a strength and conditioning coach, and he was horrified.

01:47:29.000 He was like, why the fuck would you ever do this kind of a workout, like a superset workout for MMA? He's like, you're literally going to make your body work against itself.

01:47:38.000 You're going to stress your muscles out, blow your muscles out in weird ways, stress out all, you know, like you're going to do bodybuilding stuff like bench presses.

01:47:46.000 It was really an interesting conversation and no one knows because what's good for you is not good for him.

01:47:52.000 Everybody's got their own different way of improving their body, but for Woodley, he feels that he was not as exposed.

01:47:58.000 Like he listened to many people like me that were saying he's carrying around too much muscle and that it was taken away from his explosion.

01:48:05.000 Because he was trying to lean out a little bit.

01:48:07.000 So then he went back to it.

01:48:08.000 Maybe he's right.

01:48:09.000 That's Woodley's body type, right?

01:48:11.000 Super explosive.

01:48:12.000 He might not have the best cardio, but he's going to be a motherfucking beast to hang out with for those first two rounds.

01:48:17.000 But that's him.

01:48:18.000 He's never going to be a Neil Magny.

01:48:20.000 But he just has to do what he does best, you know?

01:48:22.000 Like Shane Carwin, he tried that too.

01:48:25.000 Shane tried losing all this weight and shit, tried being a cardio guy, and he just wasn't the same fighter, man.

01:48:30.000 Yeah, you don't have what brought you to the dance, right?

01:48:32.000 No, yeah, exactly.

01:48:34.000 Stick what got you to the dance.

01:48:35.000 Yeah, it's an interesting problem because if you fight in a guy like Johnny Hendricks, who's his next opponent, great fight by the way, right?

01:48:43.000 Phenomenal fight.

01:48:44.000 That's a great fight.

01:48:44.000 If the fight goes into the third round, can he compete at the same level?

01:48:49.000 Robbie Lawler.

01:48:50.000 You know Robbie Lawler can go balls to the wall for five rounds.

01:48:54.000 He can do it.

01:48:55.000 So if you try that shit in the first round on him and you're still there for the second and third rounds, you're going to be, you know, you're a different person now.

01:49:03.000 You're not the same guy.

01:49:04.000 You're a guy operating at 40%.

01:49:06.000 That's what you gotta do, though.

01:49:08.000 With all these strength coaches that you talk to.

01:49:10.000 That's his best shot to win.

01:49:11.000 Right.

01:49:11.000 That first two rounds.

01:49:13.000 Just to be a fucking demolition machine until you can't be a demolition machine and then get taken out.

01:49:18.000 Yeah, but until you meet a guy, until you meet a veteran who can weather your storm like Glover with OSM. OSB, OSB. And OSM. And OSM. I think you're doing great, Brian.

01:49:27.000 Thank you, Tate.

01:49:30.000 When you talk to these strength coaches, are there like three, four exercises all of them agree are very important to do?

01:49:35.000 Pilates.

01:49:37.000 You say that, but Sergey Kovalev, he believes in Pilates.

01:49:41.000 The fucking one of the best boxers on the planet.

01:49:43.000 Yeah.

01:49:44.000 Kovalev does?

01:49:44.000 Yeah.

01:49:45.000 Wow.

01:49:45.000 He does Pilates.

01:49:45.000 Crazy power.

01:49:46.000 Yeah, well, he does a lot of Pilates because he wants to stay flexible and has a big range of motion.

01:49:50.000 Yeah, he's into Pilates.

01:49:52.000 It's kind of interesting, I thought.

01:49:53.000 Because I've seen a lot of guys that are into yoga.

01:49:55.000 I've never seen anybody that's into Pilates.

01:49:56.000 Right.

01:49:57.000 Rhonda did Pilates for a while, too.

01:49:58.000 Pilates isn't kind of like yoga.

01:49:59.000 It's just a strengthening stretch.

01:50:01.000 Oh, Brian.

01:50:02.000 It's nothing like yoga.

01:50:03.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

01:50:04.000 You actually lie down.

01:50:06.000 You have cables and equipment.

01:50:07.000 Yoga is your own body weight.

01:50:08.000 That's what I mean.

01:50:08.000 Like yoga, but with cables and lying down.

01:50:11.000 Have you ever done Pilates?

01:50:12.000 It's like that because it's a lot of housewives.

01:50:15.000 I'm not going to answer that question.

01:50:16.000 I'm not in the court of law right now.

01:50:18.000 Pilate hottie.

01:50:19.000 I pass it.

01:50:20.000 I've never even once thought about going in.

01:50:22.000 I've driven by it.

01:50:23.000 I've seen it being done.

01:50:24.000 Those chicks look like they're putting out almost no effort.

01:50:27.000 Every time I look in there, I'm like, this looks like maybe the easiest workout you can do.

01:50:31.000 Everybody comes out, their body looks exactly the same.

01:50:34.000 Somebody who was a real athlete told me it was no joke.

01:50:37.000 I'm sure.

01:50:38.000 I'm fucking around.

01:50:39.000 I'm sure it's hard.

01:50:40.000 Here we go.

01:50:42.000 What's up?

01:50:43.000 What's up?

01:50:43.000 Oh, no, no.

01:50:44.000 We're not on this.

01:50:44.000 Yeah, we are.

01:50:45.000 No, you don't have to.

01:50:46.000 That section was not there.

01:50:47.000 Listen, you don't have to.

01:50:48.000 Joe, you and I are betting on this one.

01:50:49.000 Okay, now we are.

01:50:50.000 We are.

01:50:50.000 I thought we changed you.

01:50:51.000 We were going to bet on the main event, weren't we?

01:50:53.000 Oh, if I lose this one.

01:50:54.000 Where would I? You're willing to go?

01:50:56.000 You're willing to take Charles Oliver?

01:50:58.000 No.

01:50:59.000 Okay, okay.

01:51:00.000 Which one are we betting on, Brian?

01:51:01.000 I don't know, man.

01:51:02.000 Hey, you know what?

01:51:03.000 They just showed Eric Silva.

01:51:04.000 He didn't look that yoked.

01:51:06.000 They just showed him standing there.

01:51:08.000 He didn't highlight, son.

01:51:08.000 There have been times where he looked unbelievably yoked.

01:51:11.000 No, no.

01:51:12.000 You guys are wrong.

01:51:13.000 We just watched it.

01:51:14.000 You guys are wrong.

01:51:17.000 You and Callum bet on the main event.

01:51:19.000 Okay.

01:51:20.000 Holloway.

01:51:20.000 Okay.

01:51:21.000 I bet Olivera.

01:51:22.000 You got Max Holloway.

01:51:23.000 I got Holloway all day.

01:51:24.000 For dinner.

01:51:25.000 Do you really?

01:51:25.000 Well, listen.

01:51:26.000 Holloway can certainly win.

01:51:27.000 I don't want anybody to think that I think he's going to lose a fight.

01:51:29.000 I don't know what the fuck's going to happen.

01:51:31.000 I'm getting lost in Silva's eyes.

01:51:34.000 Dreamy.

01:51:34.000 He's handsome.

01:51:35.000 He's a handsome kid.

01:51:36.000 Who's the top three most handsome UFC fighters, Brian?

01:51:38.000 Oh, well, Luke Rockhold, without question.

01:51:40.000 Rockhold.

01:51:41.000 Let's go.

01:51:42.000 Eric Silva.

01:51:43.000 Let's go.

01:51:44.000 I would have to put...

01:51:45.000 This is a very good question and one of my favorite kinds of questions.

01:51:50.000 I have to say, you see, you got character.

01:51:54.000 You got a little character in the mix.

01:51:55.000 Conor McGregor is a kid.

01:51:56.000 Women go nuts for Conor.

01:51:59.000 He's got style.

01:52:00.000 Cain Velasquez is not an ugly man.

01:52:02.000 He's got perfect proportions.

01:52:03.000 I'm sorry, sir.

01:52:04.000 Who was it?

01:52:04.000 Felice Herag?

01:52:05.000 Sir, sir.

01:52:06.000 If he was shredded, if Cain had Luke Rockett in his body.

01:52:10.000 Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to step out of this conversation.

01:52:12.000 I love Woodley's ass.

01:52:14.000 If you're into a manly face, Mark Hunt has the thickest face.

01:52:20.000 Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to take a step.

01:52:22.000 Fabrizio Verdum has very interesting facial expressions.

01:52:25.000 Sir, please take the bench.

01:52:25.000 Take the bench for a second.

01:52:26.000 I'm going to ask you to stand down, sir.

01:52:30.000 I appreciate your enthusiasm, but right now you're disrupting the conversation.

01:52:33.000 What's your top five, Callan?

01:52:33.000 I gotta go with my boy Shob.

01:52:35.000 You gotta put Shob in top five.

01:52:37.000 He's retired.

01:52:38.000 The kid's retired.

01:52:39.000 Not yet.

01:52:39.000 Not officially.

01:52:40.000 Not officially.

01:52:40.000 He's not officially retired.

01:52:41.000 Stop getting your friend beat up.

01:52:43.000 What do you base that on?

01:52:44.000 His height?

01:52:44.000 Shob hungry eyes.

01:52:45.000 When he walks in the room, he creates a hungry eye epidemic, man.

01:52:51.000 Tell me right now.

01:52:53.000 It's nuts.

01:52:54.000 So you gotta go with Shob.

01:52:56.000 He's bigger.

01:52:57.000 He's very, very...

01:52:58.000 He's V'd out.

01:53:00.000 And he walks like a peacock.

01:53:03.000 He's always holding his breath when he walks.

01:53:06.000 And you gotta give it up.

01:53:08.000 He's got a full, beautiful mouth.

01:53:09.000 So, what about Eric Silva?

01:53:11.000 Eric Silva's gotta be top ten.

01:53:12.000 You gotta put him in the top ten.

01:53:13.000 Yes, with his hair with that beauty.

01:53:15.000 You see no scalp.

01:53:16.000 I feel like it's offensive that you haven't mentioned Tim Kennedy at all.

01:53:19.000 I love Tim Kennedy, I just can't give him top ten.

01:53:22.000 He's all man, but I'm speaking aesthetically as a connoisseur of the male physique and face.

01:53:28.000 Without the face.

01:53:29.000 Without the face.

01:53:30.000 Just body.

01:53:31.000 We all agree that Luke Rockhold is number one.

01:53:33.000 I have to say.

01:53:33.000 I said on this podcast.

01:53:34.000 We all agree.

01:53:35.000 The only reason why anybody gets laid is because Luke Rockhold didn't get that first.

01:53:39.000 Thank you.

01:53:40.000 He should sell t-shirts with that on it.

01:53:42.000 Yeah.

01:53:43.000 We gotta go.

01:53:44.000 Who's number two?

01:53:45.000 I mean, this is a big question.

01:53:47.000 Well, there's people that like a Chris Weidman, an all-American-looking fella.

01:53:51.000 He's a cutie pie.

01:53:52.000 He's not top five.

01:53:53.000 I just can't give him top five.

01:53:54.000 You know who's overlooked?

01:53:55.000 I think Robbie Lawler is overlooked.

01:53:57.000 Too ferocious.

01:53:58.000 Robbie Lawler is overlooked.

01:53:59.000 Too scary.

01:54:00.000 What about Johnny Hendricks?

01:54:02.000 Too scary.

01:54:03.000 How about this one?

01:54:04.000 Dark Horse, Carlos Condit.

01:54:05.000 Yes!

01:54:06.000 He's handsome as fuck.

01:54:08.000 By the way!

01:54:09.000 Too skinny yet, he says.

01:54:10.000 Excuse me.

01:54:10.000 I'm giving him number two.

01:54:12.000 I like him big.

01:54:13.000 Handsome as fuck.

01:54:14.000 In my book, he's number two.

01:54:15.000 Over here, Silva?

01:54:15.000 Yes, I have to say.

01:54:17.000 I'm going to say Tyrone Woodley.

01:54:18.000 I got one.

01:54:19.000 Alan Joban.

01:54:20.000 Oh, he's a male model.

01:54:26.000 That's not even fair!

01:54:27.000 You can't say Alan Juban!

01:54:30.000 He might be number one.

01:54:33.000 He's number zero.

01:54:34.000 The only thing that separates him from Rockhold is Rockhold's taller.

01:54:37.000 We gotta ignore Alan Juban.

01:54:39.000 He's a professional.

01:54:41.000 It fucks everything up.

01:54:42.000 He doesn't count.

01:54:43.000 He gets paid for that.

01:54:44.000 We're talking about regular guys.

01:54:45.000 Look at that face.

01:54:46.000 He's a goddamn beautiful man.

01:54:47.000 I'm not even sure yet.

01:54:48.000 Yeah, come on.

01:54:50.000 Jesus Christ.

01:54:51.000 What a dick.

01:54:53.000 Perfect man.

01:54:53.000 I was staying next to him at a hotel, and he's just working out in the hallway, and I'm walking through with my girlfriend.

01:55:00.000 Who?

01:55:00.000 Joban.

01:55:01.000 He's working out in the hallway.

01:55:03.000 What was he doing in the hallway?

01:55:04.000 With a trainer?

01:55:04.000 By himself?

01:55:05.000 She was sprinting through the hotel hall, just kind of getting warmed up.

01:55:08.000 What if somebody opens the door?

01:55:09.000 I don't know.

01:55:11.000 Just shirt off, sweating in the hallway.

01:55:13.000 Why did you have to bring him up?

01:55:15.000 Jesus Christ.

01:55:16.000 We had a real conversation here and you gotta bring up a professional.

01:55:19.000 He makes Eric Silva look like some dude from The Hobbit.

01:55:23.000 He does.

01:55:24.000 Eric Self looks like Lord of the Rings now.

01:55:28.000 Is Juban still fighting him?

01:55:29.000 He's out there.

01:55:30.000 What are you talking about?

01:55:30.000 Shut the fuck up.

01:55:31.000 You are really on a fighter podcast.

01:55:34.000 You've got to do a little research, son.

01:55:36.000 No, I am.

01:55:37.000 I'm just thinking.

01:55:38.000 I did karate when I was 12. I've researched.

01:55:42.000 He just won in San Diego.

01:55:43.000 Look at the difference in his body, guys.

01:55:45.000 Yeah, his body definitely looks smoother.

01:55:46.000 You know what?

01:55:46.000 Eric Silva isn't even in my top five anymore.

01:55:48.000 Kiss my ass?

01:55:50.000 He looks like a natural athlete.

01:55:53.000 Yeah, he does, but there you go.

01:55:55.000 You can keep that.

01:55:55.000 Poor facial hair.

01:55:56.000 He's a good-looking guy.

01:55:57.000 He's not making my top five.

01:55:58.000 Condit.

01:55:59.000 I got Condit.

01:56:00.000 We got Rockhold Condit.

01:56:01.000 Joban is right there.

01:56:03.000 Joban.

01:56:03.000 No, Joban.

01:56:04.000 Allen's number one.

01:56:05.000 I'm sorry.

01:56:06.000 Sorry, Luke Rockhold, but Allen's number one.

01:56:09.000 Really?

01:56:09.000 He doesn't count.

01:56:11.000 You can't count.

01:56:11.000 I count him.

01:56:12.000 He's a professional.

01:56:14.000 5'11", I think?

01:56:15.000 5'11", no, I can't give it over.

01:56:17.000 It's not fair.

01:56:18.000 6'3", Luke, I can't do it, my friend.

01:56:20.000 Yeah, but that's the only thing that Luke has over him.

01:56:22.000 But it's a big thing.

01:56:23.000 Facially, he's like a 10. I like my men tall, Bob.

01:56:26.000 I like my men tall.

01:56:27.000 I like them to tell over me.

01:56:27.000 He's an LA 6'4".

01:56:28.000 I like them to leave peanuts off my head.

01:56:30.000 I gotta go with my man.

01:56:32.000 Well, if you want to count that, then, you know.

01:56:34.000 Who's the hottest announcer?

01:56:36.000 Eve Levine.

01:56:36.000 Joe Rogan.

01:56:37.000 No, no, no.

01:56:38.000 I'm sorry.

01:56:39.000 The ring announcer.

01:56:40.000 Oh, Bruce Buffer.

01:56:41.000 He's the hottest?

01:56:42.000 Bruce Buffer's the hottest man, period.

01:56:43.000 Yeah, he's slick.

01:56:44.000 He looks like a fucking James Bond character.

01:56:46.000 He might be the best-looking man.

01:56:46.000 Here we go.

01:56:48.000 Come on, Neil.

01:56:49.000 Wow, Eric is smooth as fuck.

01:56:51.000 He does not look...

01:56:52.000 Oh, this is my shit, right?

01:56:53.000 This is not shit.

01:56:54.000 Yo, he's lost a lot of muscle mass, too.

01:56:56.000 Are you kidding me?

01:56:57.000 But he looks like a young Wilmer Valderrama.

01:56:59.000 Now, do you think that he's lost muscle mass because he's trying to be leaner so he has more cardio because that has been his issue?

01:57:06.000 Yeah, that could be it, too.

01:57:07.000 Or do you think this is a PED issue?

01:57:09.000 It could be both.

01:57:10.000 Brendan Schaub, you specifically, for the press.

01:57:12.000 Yeah, for TMZ. That's tough, man.

01:57:16.000 It could be both.

01:57:18.000 It could be, right?

01:57:18.000 It could be a combo of both.

01:57:20.000 You have to consider it.

01:57:21.000 And here we're seeing the aggression, like Aubrey was talking about.

01:57:24.000 He's just not as ferocious right now.

01:57:26.000 Well, you know what?

01:57:26.000 He just threw some fucking big bombs right now.

01:57:28.000 I don't know what you guys are talking about.

01:57:30.000 No, he just took a big, deep breath.

01:57:32.000 He used to be super aggressive, dude.

01:57:34.000 You see the fight?

01:57:35.000 Look at that!

01:57:35.000 As he throws a spinning elbow!

01:57:37.000 Well, he has to be careful, too, because Neil's number one thing is cardio.

01:57:41.000 If you're Eric Silva, the worst thing is your cardio.

01:57:44.000 And Neil has a good ground game, man.

01:57:45.000 He's fucking real good on the ground.

01:57:47.000 Super solid on the ground.

01:57:49.000 I'd say purple belt.

01:57:51.000 Yeah, solid.

01:57:52.000 Damn, dude.

01:57:53.000 Say that after a Damian Maia fight.

01:57:56.000 Yes.

01:57:57.000 But other than that, he's looked awesome on the ground.

01:57:59.000 Look at this.

01:58:00.000 Come on, son.

01:58:01.000 He's got a good ground game.

01:58:02.000 A little too high, but there was a wild scramble there.

01:58:06.000 Oh!

01:58:06.000 Eric Silva takes him down.

01:58:08.000 Pretty aggressive.

01:58:09.000 Come on, come on, come on, come on.

01:58:12.000 Well, for a guy like Eric, you know, when he fights a guy like Matt Brown, and Matt Brown just outworks him and beats him down.

01:58:18.000 Oh, look at that pass.

01:58:19.000 Okay, that's a big sign right there.

01:58:20.000 That's a sign of some dark shit on the ground for Magny right there.

01:58:23.000 That quick, that fast.

01:58:25.000 There's a big difference of groundwork right here.

01:58:28.000 Also, he's got to also think after the Maya fight that Magny's a little suspect on the ground.

01:58:34.000 And he's passing the weak side.

01:58:35.000 Mm-hmm.

01:58:36.000 Well, that's Neil's biggest weakness if you have to pick something, right?

01:58:39.000 That's on purpose.

01:58:39.000 He's grappling.

01:58:41.000 Off his back.

01:58:42.000 Yeah, off his back.

01:58:43.000 Well, Neil's just so...

01:58:45.000 He's a cardio machine.

01:58:46.000 He's the same guy for every round.

01:58:49.000 That's so big.

01:58:50.000 If he could just...

01:58:51.000 Add the other skills on top of that, that cardio that he has is such a giant advantage.

01:58:57.000 Hopefully mentally.

01:58:58.000 Let's say he were to lose this fight, worst case scenario, and he's lost two in a row, and he's come off a seven-fight win streak.

01:59:03.000 What a change.

01:59:04.000 You go from seven-fight win streak to losing two in a row within two weeks.

01:59:07.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:59:08.000 I think at a certain point you need to be known for some kind of offensive weapon, like they gotta watch out for this or that, because you've been blasting people.

01:59:15.000 If you don't have that fucking special power or two or three, you're not gonna be able to hang at the top.

01:59:21.000 You gotta have some shit that they're worried about, you know?

01:59:25.000 He's got cardio, though.

01:59:26.000 He's got a lot of cardio.

01:59:27.000 He's the gazelle.

01:59:28.000 It took him a certain distance, and now he needs some firepower.

01:59:31.000 That's exactly what I said.

01:59:32.000 Me and his head coach, Lisa, were talking.

01:59:34.000 I said, you're going to get to a certain point with those cardios and winning off points.

01:59:37.000 You're going to get a bad motherfucker who's going to go, nah, man, this ain't going to work.

01:59:41.000 Damian Maia.

01:59:42.000 He's like, oh, you're good at cardio?

01:59:43.000 Check this out.

01:59:44.000 Ben Henderson who doesn't care about your cardio.

01:59:45.000 And Silva here is looking good.

01:59:48.000 What are you doing?

01:59:49.000 Oh!

01:59:50.000 Look at that!

01:59:52.000 Maggie takes him down.

01:59:53.000 Look at this!

01:59:54.000 I may have Gustafson!

01:59:55.000 Look at this!

01:59:57.000 Full mount!

01:59:58.000 Holy fuck!

01:59:59.000 Look at this shit!

02:00:00.000 Come on, Eric!

02:00:03.000 Yeah, Magny looking good.

02:00:05.000 Looking for that second hook, son.

02:00:07.000 Risk control, son.

02:00:08.000 Underhook on the left side gives him that second hook.

02:00:10.000 Oh, come on, Eric.

02:00:11.000 Underhook.

02:00:11.000 Damn it, there you go.

02:00:12.000 He's good now.

02:00:13.000 He's good.

02:00:13.000 Drags him right down to the ground.

02:00:15.000 Either way, this is good for Neil.

02:00:17.000 This transitions all this.

02:00:18.000 As the rounds go on, this is good for Neil.

02:00:20.000 Well, what's what we're saying about the Matt Brown fight, that Eric just could not keep up with Matt Brown.

02:00:24.000 So for a guy like that, he's got to realize, now that he's been there before and he's drowned, you've got to realize, okay, I've got to figure out how to be able to sustain this, if it's possible.

02:00:33.000 Yeah, maybe he addressed this shit.

02:00:34.000 Maybe he's going to be fine with his cardio.

02:00:36.000 He watched that fight, and I'm sure his coroner said, dude, we've got to get the cardio together.

02:00:41.000 If they were smart, they would be honest with him.

02:00:44.000 I think it's kind of a power thing, though, too.

02:00:46.000 Either you're a cardio guy or you're not.

02:00:48.000 Neil's never going to be a knockout artist.

02:00:50.000 He's always going to be a cardio guy.

02:00:51.000 You can fix the cardio.

02:00:52.000 Kane knocks people out.

02:00:54.000 Robbie Lawler knocks people the fuck out.

02:00:56.000 Yeah.

02:00:57.000 Well, they have both, right?

02:00:58.000 They have both.

02:00:59.000 Like, Kane...

02:01:00.000 Who's Kane knocked out, though?

02:01:01.000 Oh, my God.

02:01:02.000 Nogueira.

02:01:03.000 Dead.

02:01:03.000 Bigfoot Silva.

02:01:04.000 Dead.

02:01:05.000 Yeah.

02:01:05.000 I mean, he should have...

02:01:06.000 I mean, he put a fucking...

02:01:08.000 Look at this.

02:01:08.000 Oh, man.

02:01:09.000 Oh, flatten out.

02:01:11.000 Whoa.

02:01:11.000 30 seconds to go.

02:01:12.000 Silva's in deep shit.

02:01:14.000 Oh, shit.

02:01:15.000 Oh, shit.

02:01:15.000 Eva Levine taking a close look.

02:01:17.000 Damn.

02:01:18.000 Eva Levine will let that shit go.

02:01:19.000 He's a good one for that.

02:01:21.000 He does let things go.

02:01:22.000 I may have Gustafson in my top five handsome guys.

02:01:26.000 That's a thing you have for Europeans.

02:01:29.000 That's not honest.

02:01:30.000 He's a handsome dude, bro.

02:01:33.000 Honestly, he's got a perfect Swedish face.

02:01:37.000 Perfect genetics.

02:01:39.000 But he's not really ripped.

02:01:40.000 He's not very muscular.

02:01:41.000 He kind of looks like that vampire from True Blood.

02:01:51.000 You know, in Sweden, for many years, they sterilize kids that didn't have perfectly symmetrical faces.

02:01:59.000 Is that a fact?

02:02:00.000 That's actually not true.

02:02:00.000 Hey, that's some eugenics.

02:02:02.000 That's why they're so good looking.

02:02:05.000 I don't know.

02:02:06.000 No, look into it.

02:02:07.000 You think that's crazy?

02:02:08.000 Wait a minute.

02:02:10.000 When you say look into it, did you look into it?

02:02:13.000 I got on the internet!

02:02:14.000 My brother-in-law is from Sweden and his face is not at all symmetrical.

02:02:19.000 Is that bad?

02:02:20.000 They had him in the woods and they kept him from the officials.

02:02:24.000 That's how crazy it is.

02:02:25.000 You guys don't believe it.

02:02:28.000 That's why they're so good looking.

02:02:29.000 Eddie, this is all you need to do.

02:02:30.000 Just Google it and pull up some studies and some peer-reviewed papers.

02:02:33.000 Yeah, that's what we're doing.

02:02:34.000 That's what we did.

02:02:35.000 You got a phone right in front of you, brother.

02:02:36.000 Hey, I already did that shit.

02:02:38.000 Hey, I started off the conversation with, this is what I heard.

02:02:41.000 I didn't say, this is a fact.

02:02:43.000 But you said, look it up.

02:02:45.000 You said, look it up, but you haven't looked it up.

02:02:47.000 I have, but I'm not saying it's true.

02:02:48.000 I have looked it up.

02:02:49.000 I don't know if it's bullshit.

02:02:51.000 I don't know if it's bullshit.

02:02:52.000 I don't know.

02:02:53.000 But, you know what, if I had to choose right now...

02:02:55.000 DocSecret.com says...

02:02:57.000 They do say that Swedish jails are probably the best places to be if you get arrested.

02:03:00.000 Google Swedish eugenics in like the 1930s.

02:03:04.000 They're not doing that.

02:03:05.000 Don't do it until Eddie reads it first.

02:03:07.000 Hey, I didn't say it was true.

02:03:08.000 I just said, hey, there's some rumors out there.

02:03:10.000 There are some rumors.

02:03:10.000 All right?

02:03:11.000 Here's the second round.

02:03:11.000 That shit happened.

02:03:12.000 What if it's true?

02:03:13.000 Let's see if Eric and Silva can still keep his shit up in the second round.

02:03:16.000 It explains Gustafsson.

02:03:16.000 Silva's hands are very low here.

02:03:17.000 It's very strange.

02:03:18.000 That's how he fights.

02:03:19.000 This first, like, two minutes is super dangerous for Neil.

02:03:22.000 Silva looks like a different...

02:03:23.000 Get him down.

02:03:23.000 Oh!

02:03:24.000 Looking for that spinning back kick to the body but didn't land it.

02:03:27.000 He looks like he's so open to get punched right in the face.

02:03:29.000 He doesn't look tired at all.

02:03:32.000 Well, he's got to think he must have done some serious cardio.

02:03:35.000 Or he's ignoring his faults.

02:03:37.000 Magnet looks exhausted.

02:03:40.000 Come on.

02:03:41.000 You're so controversial, Eddie.

02:03:43.000 Magni always looks exactly the same in every fight.

02:03:45.000 He's always in shape.

02:03:46.000 Yep.

02:03:47.000 What does he do for cardio?

02:03:48.000 He just trains nonstop.

02:03:49.000 Then his strength coach, Lorne Lando, has him do all these sleds and frickin' sprints.

02:03:55.000 Has he ever been knocked out?

02:03:57.000 You know Magni?

02:03:58.000 No.

02:03:58.000 I saw him in the video with Kat Singano.

02:04:02.000 The video training?

02:04:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:04:04.000 They have a whole crew.

02:04:05.000 It's like Brandon Thatch, Kat Zingano.

02:04:07.000 Oh, right.

02:04:07.000 He got hurt.

02:04:08.000 Oh, look at that.

02:04:08.000 He's hurt.

02:04:09.000 He got hurt to the body there.

02:04:10.000 Look at that.

02:04:11.000 That's where cardio comes into play, man.

02:04:12.000 You recover way faster.

02:04:14.000 Even from...

02:04:15.000 How much of an advantage training at Denver, too, right?

02:04:18.000 Denver, that's got to be an advantage.

02:04:20.000 You know, that's one of the things I had a conversation with about Nowitzki.

02:04:24.000 I'm like, what about altitude tents?

02:04:25.000 How come they're not cheating?

02:04:27.000 How much of an advantage...

02:04:28.000 No!

02:04:29.000 Good uppercut.

02:04:30.000 But he had a good comeback, Joe, because he goes, I don't think it's that much of an advantage yet.

02:04:34.000 He's saying it's not the same as EPO. When you travel, and then so you're in Vegas or wherever you're going to fight for a week, all that shit equalizes out in like three days.

02:04:43.000 What do you mean?

02:04:44.000 I mean, all the benefits that you have of training at altitude.

02:04:50.000 Is that true?

02:04:51.000 Dissipates.

02:04:52.000 I don't think so.

02:04:52.000 Within three days.

02:04:53.000 I heard eight days.

02:04:54.000 But guess what I did, Tate?

02:04:55.000 I would bring a hyperbaric chamber with me.

02:04:57.000 I heard you guys, there's a thing called the internet, before you go on podcasts, and you say, I heard, maybe you should Google this fucking shit along with these goddamn eugenics studies.

02:05:07.000 That's just ridiculous.

02:05:08.000 Google Sweden eugenics.

02:05:10.000 Google Bigfoot.

02:05:13.000 Oregon Woods.

02:05:14.000 Dude, that's why they're so beautiful.

02:05:16.000 Back kick.

02:05:18.000 They cheated.

02:05:19.000 Google dong life.

02:05:20.000 I'm gonna get a tattoo.

02:05:21.000 Eric's putting it on right now, man.

02:05:22.000 Should I get a sleeve tattoo?

02:05:24.000 You should get something on your face.

02:05:25.000 Maybe teardrops or a heart.

02:05:27.000 You should get knives everywhere.

02:05:29.000 You should do what Jason Ellis did.

02:05:35.000 Just tattoo the whole top of your head.

02:05:37.000 I'll have a different animal.

02:05:38.000 Do a tiger.

02:05:39.000 Like a polar bear.

02:05:41.000 How about a seal?

02:05:43.000 I think an octopus.

02:05:45.000 A sea cucumber would be the dumbest because nobody would know what it is.

02:05:49.000 It just looks like a big dick.

02:05:50.000 Oh, he put a dildo on his head.

02:05:56.000 Does anybody have a snail tattoo?

02:06:04.000 There's got to be dudes that are obsessed with snails.

02:06:07.000 Who studies snails?

02:06:08.000 Snail experts?

02:06:10.000 I like a good snail.

02:06:11.000 I like a good snail myself.

02:06:13.000 Get on that forum.

02:06:16.000 I like Googling the tattoos that incorporate body parts, like armpits or vaginas or like assholes.

02:06:21.000 Who's that right there?

02:06:22.000 Oh, shit.

02:06:23.000 That's Elliot Marshall and Christian Allen.

02:06:25.000 Jesus, Brian.

02:06:27.000 Sorry.

02:06:27.000 Who's that?

02:06:28.000 Oh.

02:06:30.000 Oh.

02:06:30.000 He's going to pass.

02:06:31.000 Eric passing.

02:06:33.000 Oh!

02:06:34.000 He's going to take a guillotine.

02:06:36.000 Oh!

02:06:37.000 Look at Neil Magny!

02:06:39.000 Holy shit, he turned it all around.

02:06:41.000 That was everything.

02:06:42.000 The wrist control was everything.

02:06:42.000 You got a little Hunji right there.

02:06:44.000 Yep.

02:06:44.000 And look at this.

02:06:45.000 Nice narrow stance by Eric Silva.

02:06:47.000 Catch that breath, son.

02:06:48.000 Silva's legs look so different.

02:06:50.000 Yeah, his body looks different for sure.

02:06:52.000 He doesn't look bad though.

02:06:53.000 But he's doing well in the fight.

02:06:55.000 It really could be that he changed up the way he trains.

02:06:58.000 And he does more conditioning stuff, aerobic stuff, than he does strength stuff.

02:07:02.000 Physically, he does look different.

02:07:04.000 Cut or lost a weight.

02:07:05.000 You know, the other thing he's got to realize, or you've got to, we all do, is that he's a guy who cut a lot of weight to make 170. He probably realized, I can't fucking do that anymore without the IVs.

02:07:14.000 There's a lot of these guys that are going to have to lose a tremendous amount of weight.

02:07:18.000 They're going to have to lose like 10 pounds of muscle.

02:07:20.000 There's a lot of guys that are going to have to lose 10. They're going to be a different person.

02:07:23.000 Different fighter, different person, different results.

02:07:28.000 Maybe it'll equal itself out, though, with less weight they had to cut because they already lost a lot of weight.

02:07:35.000 It might just even itself out.

02:07:36.000 Maybe.

02:07:37.000 Less torture to the body, less trauma to the body.

02:07:40.000 Yeah, that's possible.

02:07:41.000 That's super possible.

02:07:42.000 Does Neil Magno have a tough time losing weight?

02:07:44.000 No.

02:07:45.000 He literally trains year-round like a gazelle.

02:07:48.000 Just running nonstop.

02:07:49.000 Never gets hurt in the gyms?

02:07:50.000 Never.

02:07:51.000 That's amazing.

02:07:52.000 I know, man.

02:07:52.000 He lived with Nate Markhart for three years.

02:07:55.000 And sparred with him all the time?

02:07:56.000 All the time.

02:07:56.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

02:07:57.000 Who do you think won the first round?

02:07:58.000 Because Eric Silva's got the second round.

02:08:00.000 I think it's 1-1, probably.

02:08:01.000 Is he American?

02:08:02.000 Is he East African?

02:08:03.000 Well, Magny's an American.

02:08:04.000 He's from Chicago.

02:08:05.000 And he was in the service.

02:08:07.000 I think guys that have been to war and guys that are in the military, there's a different consequence to your discipline.

02:08:12.000 Like a guy like Tim Kennedy.

02:08:14.000 He's got a different kind of discipline.

02:08:17.000 It's like a tried and tested in battle discipline.

02:08:20.000 I just think there's an advantage to having that.

02:08:23.000 You just don't see a lot of guys that have that high level discipline and military background get into MMA. You got like Colton Smith.

02:08:29.000 You got a few guys that have done it.

02:08:31.000 Stan.

02:08:32.000 Stan, of course, but Stan and I think Tim Kennedy are the highest profile that fought at the highest level.

02:08:37.000 You don't have to worry about their mental game at all.

02:08:39.000 He also doesn't get nervous.

02:08:41.000 We were talking to him and his buddy was there and he said, you never see me nervous.

02:08:45.000 He doesn't get nervous, but it kind of makes sense for a guy like Tim Kennedy who's been through such extreme life and death circumstances.

02:08:52.000 And now it's just a fight, which means you'll break your nose or whatever.

02:08:55.000 And for him, it's a competition.

02:08:57.000 It's fun.

02:08:57.000 Well, what you were saying was the craziest fucking thing when you guys were revealing on your podcast that Kennedy is still involved in military operations.

02:09:04.000 Tip of the spear stuff.

02:09:05.000 That's fucking insane.

02:09:06.000 He just got back from Columbia, I think, a couple weeks ago.

02:09:08.000 Tip of the spear.

02:09:08.000 That's fucking crazy.

02:09:10.000 Insane, man.

02:09:10.000 That's crazier than his MMA career.

02:09:12.000 Well, he's in the UFC right now, and he's still involved in special ops shit.

02:09:18.000 Oh, yeah.

02:09:18.000 High level stuff.

02:09:19.000 It's fucking nuts, man.

02:09:20.000 Not like, you know.

02:09:20.000 I mean, he talks about, when he talks about it, too, he's like, yeah, go on six missions a night.

02:09:23.000 Half of them are gunfights.

02:09:25.000 Like, shit's happening.

02:09:27.000 His best friend just died.

02:09:28.000 His best friend died four days ago when we did the interview.

02:09:31.000 In, like, some operation?

02:09:32.000 Yeah.

02:09:33.000 An operation he was involved in, right?

02:09:34.000 Yeah.

02:09:35.000 Was he involved in that one?

02:09:36.000 He wasn't there.

02:09:37.000 He wasn't there for that one?

02:09:37.000 Can he talk about that on your podcast?

02:09:39.000 Yeah, he talked about it.

02:09:40.000 Do you think he's allowed to?

02:09:41.000 General.

02:09:41.000 You can't reveal the details.

02:09:43.000 But it's amazing that he's still involved in those operations.

02:09:46.000 It's insane, man.

02:09:46.000 Eric Silva fucking him up.

02:09:48.000 Where's my money?

02:09:49.000 Where's my money?

02:09:49.000 Every time he kicks that, where's my money?

02:09:52.000 Where's my money?

02:09:53.000 When Tim Kennedy knocked out Rafael Natal at the military base, the fight for the troops, that was one of the most emotional moments I have ever seen any fighter ever experience inside the octagon.

02:10:03.000 It was incredible.

02:10:04.000 He jumped on top of the cage.

02:10:05.000 There was no cameras on him.

02:10:07.000 We had gone to commercial, and he was pointing to each individual people in the audience.

02:10:12.000 He just kept saying, I love you, I love you, I love all of you, I love you, I love you.

02:10:16.000 Jesus, man.

02:10:17.000 They were screaming for him, and he was screaming for them.

02:10:18.000 There was a bond that he had with those people.

02:10:21.000 He talks about the level of bonding when you can smell somebody in the dark.

02:10:26.000 You know what they smell like in the dark.

02:10:28.000 That's what he said.

02:10:29.000 He goes, and you've been through life and death situations over and over again.

02:10:31.000 I don't think that's a big thing.

02:10:33.000 Smell.

02:10:36.000 I'm trying to be dramatic right now.

02:10:39.000 I'm just glad the dudes like that exist.

02:10:43.000 I'm glad that he exists.

02:10:46.000 They're the gatekeepers.

02:10:47.000 You know what?

02:10:49.000 He's even a different athlete than Jon Jones or any of the top athletes in the UFC. He's a different type of dude.

02:10:56.000 Oh shit, Eric Silva!

02:10:57.000 Neil got cracked there.

02:10:59.000 Oh!

02:11:00.000 Neil Mackie comes back with a knee.

02:11:02.000 You know, I'll tell you one thing.

02:11:03.000 If I was hanging out with Tate and Joe and one of them farted, I would know who farted.

02:11:08.000 That's all I'm going to say.

02:11:09.000 In the dark?

02:11:09.000 In the dark.

02:11:10.000 Trust me, I would know.

02:11:12.000 I know you're farting.

02:11:14.000 Mine might smell, but Tate's might kill you.

02:11:18.000 Yes, it's my time.

02:11:19.000 That was a lot of the time, though.

02:11:21.000 That was, in my defense, that was when Eddie was my dietician.

02:11:25.000 And we would go to like 7-Eleven before we'd get on a plane and be like, ooh, this one's got malitol in it.

02:11:30.000 Let's get four of those.

02:11:31.000 Eat those and sit next to Joey Diaz.

02:11:33.000 And eat a bunch of kimchi.

02:11:35.000 Malitol apparently makes you fart.

02:11:37.000 Look at this, Eric Silva.

02:11:40.000 See, Magny, man, he just can keep that pace.

02:11:42.000 The only time Magny's been in trouble, like where he got TKO'd, was on the Ultimate Fighter by Mike Ritchie.

02:11:47.000 But in his regular UFC career, he's really not been rocked.

02:11:51.000 No, because his cardio's so damn good.

02:11:53.000 How's Ritchie doing these days, man?

02:11:55.000 He's fighting somewhere else, right?

02:11:56.000 He's fighting in Titan.

02:11:57.000 Yeah, how's he doing?

02:11:58.000 Is he doing well?

02:11:59.000 Yeah, I think he's doing alright.

02:12:00.000 He's a talented kid.

02:12:01.000 I always wondered why he never made it back to the UFC. Well, the UFC owns Titan now, right?

02:12:07.000 So he's fighting with Titan.

02:12:08.000 Is that a recent deal?

02:12:09.000 Yeah.

02:12:10.000 It's not available on Fight Pass.

02:12:11.000 That's amazing.

02:12:12.000 Crazy, right?

02:12:13.000 It's like a feeder league.

02:12:14.000 It's kind of cool.

02:12:15.000 And it's not just that.

02:12:15.000 It's Chuto Brazil's on Fight Pass now.

02:12:18.000 I think Jason Chambers is doing commentary for Chuto Brazil.

02:12:22.000 Jason called me.

02:12:23.000 I've got to text him.

02:12:24.000 Right now?

02:12:25.000 Yeah, right now.

02:12:25.000 Don't do it right now.

02:12:26.000 All right, I won't now.

02:12:27.000 Jason, sorry.

02:12:28.000 One minute 50 to go here.

02:12:30.000 Neil Magny looking fresh as a daisy.

02:12:32.000 Fresh?

02:12:33.000 Come on, he doesn't?

02:12:35.000 Neil Magny looks fresh as a daisy.

02:12:38.000 He looks like he's shopping at Whole Foods right now.

02:12:40.000 He's in such fucking good shape.

02:12:42.000 Oh my god.

02:12:42.000 That fucking, look at this.

02:12:45.000 Easy takedown.

02:12:47.000 Easy wilting.

02:12:48.000 The wilting Eric Silva.

02:12:50.000 Long legs.

02:12:50.000 This is a big difference between Neil Magny and Eric Silva as far as how much he can keep this up.

02:12:56.000 It's crazy, that cardio, man.

02:12:58.000 That is nuts.

02:12:59.000 Oh, beautiful!

02:13:01.000 Take down, my friend!

02:13:02.000 Take down!

02:13:03.000 Oh, shit!

02:13:04.000 Is that an Uchimata?

02:13:05.000 You know what?

02:13:06.000 That just equalized that shit right there.

02:13:08.000 Hell yeah.

02:13:08.000 Stay on top, kid.

02:13:10.000 Stay on top, kid.

02:13:11.000 Here we go.

02:13:11.000 Look at that.

02:13:12.000 You're right the first time.

02:13:12.000 Nice.

02:13:13.000 Hey, they equalize each other.

02:13:15.000 Sort of.

02:13:15.000 And so far, Eric Silva landed way more shots.

02:13:19.000 Oh, you're crazy.

02:13:20.000 What?

02:13:20.000 They showed the numbers.

02:13:21.000 It's not even close.

02:13:21.000 And also, when Maggie just took him down, he hammered him five or six times.

02:13:26.000 No, he didn't.

02:13:26.000 And zero strikes here.

02:13:27.000 What fight are you watching?

02:13:30.000 I googled eugenics in Sweden.

02:13:33.000 In the middle of googling eugenics in Sweden, I occasionally looked up when Eric Silva was on a rampage.

02:13:40.000 Head down like that.

02:13:41.000 That's a good setup.

02:13:44.000 I get my information at the library, guys.

02:13:46.000 I go to the library.

02:13:47.000 Who goes to the library?

02:13:50.000 I go to the library.

02:13:51.000 You guys get your information from the internet.

02:13:54.000 I go to the library.

02:13:55.000 I love how you say the internet as if it's all the same source.

02:14:00.000 I go to the library.

02:14:01.000 I read books.

02:14:01.000 There's very different websites on the internet.

02:14:05.000 Neil is just accurate.

02:14:06.000 Look at that.

02:14:06.000 When was the last time somebody went to the library?

02:14:08.000 Some guy asked me the other day if I wanted to have someone who's a flat earth proponent.

02:14:14.000 He's apparently the best arguer for a flat earth.

02:14:17.000 Come on, bro.

02:14:17.000 I want to hear that.

02:14:18.000 I want to hear that argument.

02:14:20.000 What can they possibly say?

02:14:21.000 No fucking way.

02:14:22.000 They're either trolling or retarded.

02:14:24.000 Trolling.

02:14:24.000 Yes.

02:14:24.000 You know the one thing that's weird?

02:14:25.000 Of course it's true, but the one thing that's fucking weird is you would think with all the satellites we have going in and out of our solar system, and how come there's no pictures of the Earth?

02:14:37.000 Good point.

02:14:38.000 There are pictures of the Earth.

02:14:40.000 So many pictures of the Earth.

02:14:42.000 Good point.

02:14:44.000 No, I'm with you.

02:14:45.000 Hey, I don't know!

02:14:46.000 It's a fact, huh, Brian?

02:14:48.000 Google pictures of the Earth.

02:14:52.000 Do it.

02:14:52.000 You're going to see Earth.

02:14:54.000 Around Earth.

02:14:54.000 You're going to see CGI cartoon.

02:14:57.000 You would think there would be all these weird pictures of the sun here, the moon here, the Earth there, the sun here.

02:15:02.000 There would be thousands of them.

02:15:04.000 I have one of those in my Trapper Keeper when I was a kid.

02:15:07.000 First of all, with the satellites, they're all inside of 400 miles, most of them at least.

02:15:12.000 And then when you get past that, they usually don't take pictures.

02:15:14.000 They take a few.

02:15:15.000 You don't think they would take a bunch of pictures of Earth?

02:15:17.000 They show the Earth when it's like a little tiny dot in the distance.

02:15:20.000 Hey, if I'm wrong and there is like thousands of pictures of Earth, there's just all these weird, like, the sun here, the moon here, then hey, I don't know.

02:15:26.000 I didn't research it.

02:15:27.000 These people are Earthists.

02:15:28.000 They're all Earthists.

02:15:29.000 Why are you arguing with me?

02:15:30.000 I didn't research it.

02:15:30.000 But to have a satellite that far out and take pictures, they've only sent a few of those out there.

02:15:36.000 They've only sent a couple different satellites that deep into space.

02:15:40.000 No, but sure, there is hundreds of pictures on the internet that you can see of the Earth with the sun in the background, the moon over here, sun in the moon, moon-sun, from this angle.

02:15:48.000 But, Eddie, you can see the Earth rounded from space.

02:15:51.000 I'm going to need you to send this round out, Eddie.

02:15:53.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

02:15:55.000 Maybe has never been the worst way of beginning that statement.

02:16:04.000 I just want to see pictures of Earth.

02:16:05.000 I just want to see pictures of Earth from space.

02:16:08.000 Where are that?

02:16:09.000 Where are that?

02:16:11.000 I hope this is all bullshit, for sure.

02:16:18.000 Oh, I hope.

02:16:23.000 Usually I can kind of hear you out, Eddie, but...

02:16:25.000 Yeah, the Earth is so round.

02:16:27.000 A bunch of photos.

02:16:27.000 Aren't those on cartoon photos?

02:16:29.000 There's the one that they faked in the Apollo 11 moon missions.

02:16:36.000 How did that happen?

02:16:38.000 Wait, who won?

02:16:41.000 Oh, shit!

02:16:43.000 Bring me my money, Eddie.

02:16:45.000 Neil Magni brings it home.

02:16:47.000 Double or nothing Olivero Holloway?

02:16:50.000 I got Holloway for a grand.

02:16:52.000 This is the amazing shit.

02:16:57.000 The pictures of Earth from like...

02:17:00.000 That could be flat.

02:17:01.000 Space station type shit.

02:17:02.000 That could be flat.

02:17:04.000 That could be flat.

02:17:05.000 Okay.

02:17:07.000 There's a bunch of pictures.

02:17:08.000 Okay.

02:17:09.000 Fuck.

02:17:09.000 Is that the guy that did that?

02:17:11.000 The high-altitude jump?

02:17:12.000 Is that what that is, Joe?

02:17:13.000 I think it is.

02:17:14.000 The Red Bull guy?

02:17:15.000 That's the Red Bull guy right there?

02:17:17.000 Eddie, did you ditch third grade?

02:17:22.000 Now, did you take that day off when we were talking about Earth?

02:17:27.000 Alright.

02:17:27.000 Alright, whatever you say.

02:17:32.000 I love it.

02:17:33.000 Goddammit!

02:17:33.000 Maybe I'll just pay you $1,000.

02:17:35.000 Double or nothing, man.

02:17:36.000 Maybe I'll just pay you $1,000.

02:17:37.000 You don't want to keep going?

02:17:38.000 Dude, $2,000 off some stupid fucking bet?

02:17:41.000 Well, you could just do the Halle Gravesy method and just pay him in private lessons.

02:17:46.000 That's pretty good.

02:17:47.000 Two private lessons.

02:17:49.000 Be nice, dude.

02:17:50.000 That is being nice.

02:17:51.000 Jesus Christ.

02:17:52.000 Isn't it?

02:17:52.000 It's not his fault.

02:17:53.000 It's not?

02:17:54.000 No, it's all his fault.

02:17:56.000 Are you sure?

02:17:56.000 I don't know who to believe.

02:17:58.000 I don't know what's going on.

02:18:00.000 Let's not start shit here.

02:18:02.000 It's not his fault.

02:18:04.000 So Brian tried poaching athletes from EBI. I knew that.

02:18:08.000 It's still going on?

02:18:09.000 I thought you settled that.

02:18:10.000 Settled what?

02:18:11.000 I thought you guys are cool now.

02:18:13.000 Fuck no.

02:18:16.000 Fuck no.

02:18:17.000 Really?

02:18:18.000 Because I heard you guys were cool.

02:18:19.000 Hey, listen.

02:18:20.000 I'm not gonna, like, fucking stalk him or anything like that.

02:18:21.000 Hey, how come he stopped using the crowd?

02:18:23.000 How come he stopped using the crowd for Hannah Morris?

02:18:25.000 Cheaper.

02:18:26.000 He does it in Black House so that they don't have a big overhead now.

02:18:29.000 So they just get pay-per-view.

02:18:30.000 Smart.

02:18:31.000 Think about it.

02:18:32.000 That's terrible.

02:18:34.000 That's like doing stand-up with no audience.

02:18:37.000 That's like having a concert.

02:18:39.000 Let's have a fucking festival, but let's not have the audience.

02:18:42.000 I think that was a terrible idea.

02:18:45.000 Can you imagine doing stand-up with no audience?

02:18:47.000 Always been practicing in this room.

02:18:49.000 I'm thinking about doing it alone.

02:18:50.000 Oh my god.

02:18:52.000 Just you alone.

02:18:54.000 Just me, no opening act.

02:18:55.000 No camera.

02:18:56.000 No camera.

02:18:57.000 I'm just going to record it on my iPhone.

02:18:59.000 If you have a show, if you have an event, and nobody shows up, and no one shows up to be in the audience, no matter what happens, that show sucks.

02:19:08.000 You know what I mean?

02:19:09.000 But he's making that happen because he wants it.

02:19:12.000 He's doing it purposely.

02:19:13.000 I would say, especially with as boring as a lot of his matches are, that it's nice if you could pan down and go, God, there's Hicks and Gracie.

02:19:20.000 Or...

02:19:20.000 I don't think it's a good move.

02:19:22.000 It's a nice thing to fill.

02:19:24.000 We're talking about what the UFC should do, what the commission should do, and what this show should do.

02:19:28.000 I don't think that's a good move for Metamorris.

02:19:31.000 I want Metamorris to succeed.

02:19:34.000 I competed in Metamorris.

02:19:36.000 It's a good thing that we have all these shows.

02:19:38.000 I'm not against Metamorris.

02:19:39.000 I just think he's making bad decisions.

02:19:43.000 That's what I really believe.

02:19:44.000 And I think the majority agrees with you.

02:19:45.000 Yeah, you know, and I would love that there's a show out there and there's going to be super fights being put on.

02:19:53.000 I'm not against that shit.

02:19:56.000 It's great for Jiu-Jitsu.

02:19:58.000 It's not going to affect EBI at all.

02:20:00.000 Here's the thing about EBI, though.

02:20:02.000 You've thrown a monkey wrench in the whole game with those overtime scenarios.

02:20:05.000 It makes everything so much better.

02:20:08.000 You know, first I was like, how is this going to work?

02:20:10.000 When you tell me about it, I didn't have the vision.

02:20:13.000 But then the first time I went and saw it live, I went, that's the way.

02:20:16.000 It's so powerful.

02:20:16.000 It's the way.

02:20:18.000 Because you would go through these matches, they would hit 20 minutes, there would be no finish, and that would be the end of it.

02:20:23.000 But now, there's a finish in a lot of those matches.

02:20:26.000 And if there's no finish, it's still crazy.

02:20:28.000 Because you're almost getting finished.

02:20:30.000 Because you're starting off in a three-quarter position.

02:20:33.000 You're starting off with your back tape.

02:20:38.000 It's the best grappling show I've ever been to.

02:20:40.000 It's by far the best grappling show.

02:20:42.000 It's the solution to the problem of grappling.

02:20:43.000 Everyone tells me it's boring.

02:20:44.000 It is amazing.

02:20:45.000 Eddie nailed it.

02:20:46.000 There's no hiding there in that.

02:20:47.000 It's not just no hiding.

02:20:49.000 You're put in danger.

02:20:50.000 You're put in danger.

02:20:52.000 Like, everybody gets put in danger.

02:20:53.000 I don't want people to go to overtime and the people, most of the reviews have 90% no shit have been super positive.

02:21:01.000 It's incredible.

02:21:02.000 I can't believe it.

02:21:03.000 That's amazing when you look at the internet.

02:21:04.000 1, 2, 3, 4. It's incredible.

02:21:06.000 Just nothing but positive, positive, positive, positive.

02:21:10.000 And occasionally people will say, I hate the overtime rounds.

02:21:12.000 They suck.

02:21:13.000 Because it's not fair that we put, you know, you're going to get a guy who couldn't pass the guard and couldn't get his back naturally.

02:21:19.000 Now you're going to take me to overtime and And you're going to put that guy on the back who couldn't earn that on his own?

02:21:26.000 Like, who cares?

02:21:27.000 We're just trying to make it exciting.

02:21:28.000 It's gangster.

02:21:29.000 I want you to hate overtime.

02:21:30.000 You know what's really funny?

02:21:32.000 You hear that argument a lot of times from wrestlers.

02:21:35.000 It's so ironic because wrestling, they'll start on their knees with a guy behind them with one hand on their waist.

02:21:42.000 What are you talking about?

02:21:43.000 You start in a disadvantageous position all the time.

02:21:47.000 It's a big part of high school and college wrestling.

02:21:50.000 But Eddie, you didn't lose any of your competitors, right?

02:21:53.000 You guys are all good now.

02:21:54.000 No, he did.

02:21:55.000 I did.

02:21:55.000 Oh, you did pull one.

02:21:56.000 He went after EBI. When EBI 3 was announced, it was the 170 welterweight and the returning champion was Gary Tonin.

02:22:05.000 He was coming back for sure.

02:22:08.000 Dylan Dennis, who I didn't even know who Dylan Dennis was, to be honest with you.

02:22:12.000 I don't really keep up with what's going on in the gi, IBJJF shit.

02:22:16.000 I really don't.

02:22:16.000 You have to be a superstar for me to know who you are.

02:22:18.000 So Dylan Dennis comes to me.

02:22:19.000 He comes to my school and says, I want to go into EBI. I want to go against Gary Tonin.

02:22:23.000 I think I can beat him.

02:22:24.000 And I didn't even know who he was.

02:22:25.000 I go, I can't promise you anything, but let me look into you.

02:22:29.000 And he came and he trained.

02:22:30.000 And I looked into him like, holy shit, this guy is a Phenom, freak, brown belt, who's killing everybody in absolute...

02:22:38.000 He just went in gold after gold, just tapping everybody.

02:22:41.000 I'm like, hell fucking yes.

02:22:42.000 Texted him and go, you're in, son.

02:22:44.000 And then they started talking shit.

02:22:46.000 Gary Tonin and Dylan Dennis on the internet, on Facebook.

02:22:49.000 I hope I get you in the first round.

02:22:50.000 So there was some hype building.

02:22:52.000 I'm like, this is fucking perfect.

02:22:53.000 And then Hallett comes in and offers Dylan Dennis and Gary Tonin Exclusive contracts.

02:23:00.000 Dylan bought a bit and Gary said, fuck no.

02:23:03.000 So, he almost got them both.

02:23:06.000 Both my top seeds.

02:23:07.000 He almost got them both.

02:23:08.000 And I was already hyping the show.

02:23:09.000 He got Dylan, but he didn't get Gary, thank God.

02:23:12.000 The show went off and Gary ended up winning and it was a great show and it got great reviews, but But if Gary would have agreed to this, you know, and what Halleck says is, anytime anybody brings this up, he just distracts everybody and says, hey,

02:23:27.000 the UFC does exclusive contracts.

02:23:29.000 I'm just doing what the UFC's doing.

02:23:30.000 It's like, it's not about exclusive contracts.

02:23:32.000 You specifically went after my top two guys in my show, and you tried to ruin my show.

02:23:37.000 But the UFC, you talk shit on the UFC, then the UFC does that.

02:23:42.000 What an arrogant guy to think also that you are the UFC. You're not.

02:23:49.000 You're a guy dying of scarcity.

02:23:53.000 Stop it.

02:23:54.000 I thought we were cool.

02:23:55.000 I actually thought me and Halleck were cool.

02:23:56.000 I thought we were working together.

02:23:58.000 I thought, hey, you need submission specialists for your show.

02:24:01.000 Your show gets a lot of bad reviews because of the boredom.

02:24:05.000 That's the big problem with jiu-jitsu, just like Joe was saying.

02:24:08.000 Jiu-jitsu is like, how do you remove the boredom from it?

02:24:10.000 Because it's like playing chess.

02:24:12.000 A lot of people are really into chess.

02:24:13.000 It's a very complicated, sophisticated little game, but you're not going to put it You'll never have it on Fox.

02:24:19.000 Although the game has a lot of prestige and a lot of respect behind it, but you're never going to see it on TV. Jiu Jitsu is exactly the same way.

02:24:33.000 Gi Jiu Jitsu is very intricate, very sophisticated, beautiful, the way they're using the Gi to control body, but you're just not gonna put it on TV. It's just too much holding.

02:24:44.000 It's just not gonna happen.

02:24:45.000 You can't put, it's like chess.

02:24:46.000 Even guys who know Jiu Jitsu, I noticed when I've been at Metamorphosis.

02:24:49.000 Black belts don't even like matches.

02:24:51.000 They don't even watch it.

02:24:53.000 They don't even watch it.

02:24:54.000 Black belt legends don't even keep track of the Mundials.

02:24:58.000 So that's the problem right there.

02:25:00.000 You've got to recognize it and go, okay, if we want a show, if we want jiu-jitsu to, let's say, get on TV or get to the highest platform possible, we've got to do everything possible to remove...

02:25:14.000 The big problem.

02:25:14.000 The boredom.

02:25:15.000 The stalling.

02:25:16.000 What would you suggest?

02:25:17.000 Would you suggest points for, like, I don't know.

02:25:22.000 Never points.

02:25:23.000 Never points.

02:25:24.000 No matter what point system you come up with, it's a point is a point is a point.

02:25:29.000 If passing the guard is one point or it's 15 points, it's still you're up, and now there's no urgency to make the move.

02:25:37.000 Your coaches are going, slow down.

02:25:38.000 You've got a minute left.

02:25:39.000 Don't do shit.

02:25:40.000 Don't try to fuck you.

02:25:41.000 You pass the guard.

02:25:42.000 Don't do nothing.

02:25:43.000 The coaching is stalling.

02:25:45.000 The athlete, if he's smart, he's stalling.

02:25:48.000 I feel like you can have five minutes.

02:25:50.000 That's too short.

02:25:51.000 You can't have any point system.

02:25:53.000 Eddie, you did it.

02:25:53.000 You can't have any point system.

02:25:55.000 You figured it out.

02:25:55.000 You fixed it.

02:25:56.000 You've got to eliminate the points.

02:25:58.000 You've got anything.

02:25:58.000 Cal's talking about points over here.

02:25:59.000 God damn it.

02:26:00.000 Sorry, guys.

02:26:01.000 Karate background.

02:26:02.000 It's got to be submission only.

02:26:04.000 Taekwondo, bud.

02:26:05.000 And there had to be an overtime that determined a winner.

02:26:08.000 You fixed it.

02:26:09.000 That's all.

02:26:09.000 You win, Eddie.

02:26:10.000 What's the next show?

02:26:12.000 December 13th.

02:26:13.000 Austin, Texas.

02:26:14.000 December 13th.

02:26:15.000 Austin, Texas.

02:26:15.000 This one's going to be a special one.

02:26:17.000 I can't...

02:26:18.000 I'm still piecing it together.

02:26:20.000 I can't really talk about it.

02:26:22.000 It's way too early.

02:26:23.000 Yes.

02:26:23.000 EBI 5. You can see EBI... Is it true that Halleck's going to compete in yours?

02:26:27.000 It's absolutely true.

02:26:29.000 He's going against Brennan Schub.

02:26:32.000 Putting this out on Twitter.

02:26:34.000 Putting this out on Twitter.

02:26:36.000 Tweet it!

02:26:37.000 Tweet it!

02:26:39.000 It's so easy.

02:26:41.000 All I'm trying to do, I'm just trying to make jujitsu entertaining for the masses.

02:26:48.000 And you're doing it.

02:26:49.000 That's all I'm trying to do.

02:26:50.000 But hey, Eddie, you're about to lose two grand on this main event, my man.

02:26:53.000 I didn't agree to that.

02:26:55.000 You got glasses on, bro.

02:26:56.000 I love that he's wearing glasses right now.

02:26:57.000 You know what?

02:26:58.000 Fuck it.

02:26:59.000 Will you take a check?

02:27:02.000 Will you take a check?

02:27:03.000 Cash or a check, my man?

02:27:04.000 You will take a check?

02:27:05.000 For sure.

02:27:05.000 Because I don't have the cash.

02:27:06.000 It's kind of weird that Oliveira comes out with glasses on.

02:27:09.000 Okay, we'll do it.

02:27:10.000 You would think that, you know...

02:27:11.000 If he has vision issues, he should have corrected that.

02:27:13.000 Are they that bad?

02:27:15.000 I mean, it's weird that his vision issues are so bad that he wants to wear his glasses up until the time he gets in the octagon.

02:27:20.000 He's probably getting paid for it.

02:27:22.000 You know Justin Gaethje?

02:27:24.000 He's the World Series of Fighting world champ at 170. 55, right?

02:27:29.000 55, yeah.

02:27:29.000 He has these glasses.

02:27:30.000 You take him off, he couldn't recognize you.

02:27:33.000 Really?

02:27:34.000 He has to squint so bad.

02:27:35.000 Wow.

02:27:36.000 It's crazy.

02:27:37.000 Was it something he was born with?

02:27:38.000 No, he just has horrible eyes.

02:27:39.000 So you have to wear glasses.

02:27:41.000 Do fighters not fight with contacts?

02:27:43.000 You have to tell the condition.

02:27:44.000 They can't fight with contacts or LASIK. They used to fight with contacts.

02:27:48.000 Really?

02:27:48.000 What?

02:27:48.000 Not with LASIK either?

02:27:49.000 No.

02:27:50.000 They ask if you've had it.

02:27:51.000 It's supposed to be banned, yeah.

02:27:52.000 Well, LASIK, there's two different ways of doing it.

02:27:55.000 And LASIK is the most vulnerable way.

02:27:57.000 There's another way of doing it that it takes longer to heal.

02:28:00.000 And it's like actual surgery.

02:28:02.000 It starts with a P, right?

02:28:02.000 I don't remember.

02:28:04.000 There's two different...

02:28:05.000 I might be even saying wrong about Lasix is more vulnerable.

02:28:08.000 But there's two different ways.

02:28:09.000 And the more common way, you're not supposed to have contact sports.

02:28:12.000 Because if you get rocked, that stitching or the tearing, wherever the cut, the scar tissue, could open up and you're fucked.

02:28:20.000 Now he's crying.

02:28:21.000 Look at how emotional he is.

02:28:22.000 That's usually a bad sign.

02:28:24.000 He was like in Rapture.

02:28:25.000 Yeah, he's probably listening to some Jesus music or something.

02:28:29.000 Do you know why it doesn't hurt when they laser your eyes?

02:28:32.000 Legit point, right?

02:28:33.000 Legit point.

02:28:34.000 Why?

02:28:34.000 Why doesn't it hurt?

02:28:35.000 You don't believe you have nerve endings in your eyes.

02:28:37.000 You know why I believe that?

02:28:38.000 Because when I go in the cryo chamber, my eyes never hurt.

02:28:40.000 They don't even get cold.

02:28:43.000 You're burning them with lasers, and you're awake.

02:28:45.000 You're conscious.

02:28:46.000 I had LASIK. It was pretty freaky, my man.

02:28:48.000 Freaky, but not painful.

02:28:49.000 Wait a minute.

02:28:50.000 You had LASIK, and you can't fight anymore, then?

02:28:52.000 Well, no.

02:28:52.000 I never told him I did it.

02:28:54.000 Well, you just did, you fuck.

02:28:55.000 Jesus Christ.

02:28:57.000 Oh, no.

02:28:57.000 Now it's over.

02:28:58.000 What am I gonna do?

02:28:59.000 First Reebok, now this!

02:29:02.000 Dude, they're gonna sue you.

02:29:02.000 MMA media, Brendan Schaub lies under oath about LASIK. I got it when I was playing football.

02:29:09.000 Oh my God, so you lied a lot.

02:29:10.000 And then when they asked, I said, no.

02:29:12.000 What are you going to do?

02:29:13.000 Oh my God.

02:29:14.000 What are you going to do now?

02:29:15.000 Maybe you're kidding about getting a license.

02:29:17.000 You might be kidding about getting it.

02:29:18.000 I think you're kidding about it.

02:29:19.000 Maybe I'm lying.

02:29:20.000 Maybe he's lying.

02:29:21.000 This is all for entertainment, folks.

02:29:23.000 That's it.

02:29:24.000 I don't really think Conor McGregor doesn't have the legitimate, international, intermediate, intermittent belts.

02:29:31.000 You're crazy.

02:29:32.000 I don't think that's a headline.

02:29:34.000 I got my hope against a headline.

02:29:35.000 I want to keep this party going.

02:29:37.000 Literally all of them are like...

02:29:38.000 We got record downloads last time.

02:29:40.000 Is it possible for...

02:29:41.000 Our downloads can't get any bigger.

02:29:42.000 I better start doing some research.

02:29:43.000 We're getting millions of downloads for this show.

02:29:45.000 Jesus.

02:29:46.000 Is it possible for Joey Diaz to do an impression of Conor McGregor?

02:29:49.000 Is that even possible?

02:29:50.000 Yeah, it would be possible.

02:29:51.000 Joey would have to watch him, but if Joey...

02:29:53.000 No, I'm talking about you doing an impression of Joey doing an impression of Conor McGregor.

02:29:57.000 We're not here to take pot, cocksucker.

02:29:59.000 We're here to take over.

02:30:01.000 Who's done what I've done?

02:30:02.000 Who's done what I've done?

02:30:03.000 Who's done what I've done?

02:30:04.000 Who's done what I've done?

02:30:05.000 Who the fuck has done what I've done?

02:30:10.000 I'm doing this shit for Ireland, dog!

02:30:16.000 What the fuck?

02:30:17.000 Think about what I've done.

02:30:19.000 What the fuck, Eddie Bravo?

02:30:20.000 I love how he calls your full name.

02:30:22.000 Brendan Sharp.

02:30:23.000 What's going on, Brendan Sharp?

02:30:25.000 Joe does the best.

02:30:27.000 Joe is old school.

02:30:28.000 Joe's impressions are world class.

02:30:31.000 And if you've ever heard him do a Porsche or a Rottweiler, it's about as good as it gets.

02:30:35.000 Can you do a Porsche right now?

02:30:37.000 Or a pair.

02:30:37.000 What's a Porsche?

02:30:38.000 No, Porsche.

02:30:38.000 Come on, please.

02:30:39.000 911?

02:30:40.000 Come on.

02:30:40.000 No.

02:30:44.000 Hold on.

02:30:45.000 I'll tell you what.

02:30:46.000 He does an amazing bear.

02:30:47.000 He does a sick Grizzly.

02:30:49.000 He does a sick Kodiak and a sick Rockwell.

02:30:51.000 I can do a couple noises.

02:30:53.000 I got a good Grizzly too.

02:31:05.000 That's a monster.

02:31:07.000 That's the abdominal snowman.

02:31:09.000 That's that bitch from that movie, was it The Ring?

02:31:12.000 That's actually Bigfoot.

02:31:13.000 That's actually Bigfoot.

02:31:15.000 That's the real Bigfoot?

02:31:17.000 That's Noguera's joints when he wakes up in the morning.

02:31:19.000 Oh my god.

02:31:21.000 Didn't you say that Noguera has to have someone work on his back for over an hour before he actually works out?

02:31:26.000 Warm-ups, yeah.

02:31:26.000 What does he do?

02:31:27.000 He gets a Thai girl to walk on his hamstrings.

02:31:30.000 Yeah, he has to do all sorts of stuff.

02:31:30.000 And everyone told me when I was fighting, I'd be like, bro, don't worry, it takes him an hour just to get ready.

02:31:35.000 I'm like, I don't give a fuck.

02:31:38.000 Wow.

02:31:39.000 This is a great fucking fight we're about to watch here.

02:31:42.000 It's a good fight.

02:31:42.000 By the way, how fun are these goddamn fight companions?

02:31:44.000 The best, man.

02:31:45.000 I was looking forward to this all day.

02:31:46.000 I was immersed in girl activities, my daughters and my wives, all this girl, girl, girl shit, and I'm looking at that clock in six hours.

02:31:53.000 I get to be a man.

02:31:56.000 I get to be a man again!

02:31:58.000 Dude, it's almost over.

02:31:59.000 We got 15 minutes of manhood.

02:32:00.000 We can talk manly shit, talk shit to each other.

02:32:04.000 Brian's gonna take us to dinner.

02:32:05.000 Dude, I watched The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills today.

02:32:10.000 I was working out in my little gym, and it was on, and I watched it, and watched these bitches scream at each other, and watched these girls turn at each other, and I'm like, how bizarre is this behavior, and how bizarre are these women?

02:32:24.000 I'll watch that shit.

02:32:25.000 I will watch that shit.

02:32:26.000 I just saw a new one advertised.

02:32:28.000 The hot girls of Las Vegas, or the hot wives of Las Vegas.

02:32:32.000 You're talking about wags.

02:32:34.000 Wives and girlfriends of celebrities?

02:32:35.000 No, man.

02:32:36.000 I just saw it on a bus the other day.

02:32:37.000 Hot Wives in Las Vegas.

02:32:39.000 That's on VH1, son.

02:32:40.000 There's probably so many shows.

02:32:43.000 It's nice because they're tired of wives.

02:32:46.000 Nobody wants that anymore.

02:32:48.000 Well, if they fight, it's good.

02:32:50.000 Here's an old beat-up bitch that's torturing some poor guy that sucked into this existence.

02:32:55.000 Sorry, nobody wants to see the hot housewives.

02:32:58.000 There's a lot of that.

02:32:59.000 Tate Fletcher has spoken.

02:33:01.000 Damn.

02:33:02.000 People getting drowned.

02:33:03.000 This is very important.

02:33:05.000 So who's up right now?

02:33:06.000 Who's up?

02:33:06.000 Somebody just posted the main event.

02:33:08.000 But who was up in the betting here between you two?

02:33:11.000 Oh, me.

02:33:12.000 He's going to owe him $3,000.

02:33:14.000 On which fight?

02:33:14.000 Double or nothing now.

02:33:15.000 Double or nothing.

02:33:16.000 Would you bet on Magni?

02:33:17.000 Did you bet on the Magni fight?

02:33:19.000 Yeah, Magni.

02:33:20.000 You won $1,000 from the Magni fight?

02:33:22.000 No, no, $500.

02:33:23.000 Nah, betting another $1,000.

02:33:24.000 But we had another $500.

02:33:25.000 I'm going under.

02:33:26.000 Because remember, Joe, I won the $500 on Glover OSB fight.

02:33:29.000 I'm fucked here.

02:33:31.000 Damn, you bet against Glover.

02:33:32.000 What do you guys think about Glover vs Pat Collins?

02:33:35.000 It's a tough fight.

02:33:36.000 What do you think about that fight?

02:33:37.000 Two sick wrestlers.

02:33:39.000 Maybe we keep double or nothing until I win.

02:33:41.000 That's too much for Pat.

02:33:41.000 Is that cool?

02:33:42.000 Too much for Pat as in just Glover?

02:33:45.000 That's a big statement about how you feel about Glover.

02:33:47.000 I love Pat, man.

02:33:48.000 I love Pat.

02:33:49.000 He's my closest training partner when I was fighting, you know?

02:33:52.000 If I could pick a horrible matchup for him, it would be Glover.

02:33:55.000 I don't know how he's going to win, man.

02:33:57.000 And that breaks my heart to say it.

02:33:58.000 Super impressed with Glover vs.

02:34:00.000 OSP. Super impressed.

02:34:02.000 A veteran, man.

02:34:03.000 He's a monster.

02:34:04.000 Sits from the cut, like, relaxed.

02:34:05.000 Here it goes.

02:34:06.000 Oh, you're an amazing athlete with those crazy kicks?

02:34:08.000 That's fine.

02:34:08.000 Well, not the only chance, but a good chance that Pat can mimic is when he fought Phil Davis in Brazil.

02:34:14.000 But that was a Glover who was kind of like all worn down, was like eating fucking just veggies or some shit.

02:34:19.000 Also, he was coming off of that, he's only eating veggies?

02:34:21.000 I made that up.

02:34:22.000 He looked like shit.

02:34:23.000 He was coming off the Jon Jones fight, and he hurt his shoulder pretty bad in that fight.

02:34:27.000 I don't know what he did to fix it.

02:34:29.000 He never went through surgery.

02:34:30.000 He didn't look good.

02:34:31.000 Remember Phil just hung on him, wore him out?

02:34:33.000 So, I mean, Pat could do that for sure.

02:34:37.000 He was training for that fight in Connecticut in a garage, remember?

02:34:40.000 Like by himself.

02:34:40.000 Yeah, they heard the countdown shows, and they showed him riding a stationary bike, listening to ABBA. And that's it.

02:34:46.000 What was like 37?

02:34:47.000 That's it.

02:34:47.000 Is he 37?

02:34:49.000 Glover is not young.

02:34:50.000 He looks every bit of 45. This is not 37 from six years ago when you could do stuff and get away with it.

02:34:55.000 This is a legit 37. And that's not good.

02:34:58.000 Legit 37 is every boxer that's ever been good ever except for George Foreman is done.

02:35:03.000 These guys are the same guy.

02:35:04.000 Except Bernard Hopkins.

02:35:06.000 But we don't know what Bernard Hopkins is doing as far as growth and stuff like that.

02:35:09.000 If people don't think he's ever taken something, you're fucking crazy.

02:35:12.000 At 50?

02:35:12.000 He's 50. He's 50 and he's still winning.

02:35:15.000 Who's 50?

02:35:15.000 Bernard Hopkins.

02:35:16.000 And by the way, his body does look different.

02:35:18.000 It does look different.

02:35:19.000 But that may be, in many ways, one of the greatest sporting feats we've seen before.

02:35:23.000 Period.

02:35:24.000 You know what else is good, too?

02:35:27.000 He doesn't seem to be diminished as far as his ability to talk.

02:35:30.000 He's a very good announcer.

02:35:30.000 Yeah, he's a good announcer.

02:35:31.000 Not bad.

02:35:32.000 He's never been hurt.

02:35:33.000 Remember that.

02:35:34.000 He's very good for being 50. Yeah.

02:35:38.000 For a fighter, yes.

02:35:39.000 He's never been hurt.

02:35:40.000 Here we go.

02:35:40.000 Here we go, Max Holloway and Oliveira.

02:35:42.000 See, I feel like Oliveira is more technical, standing up, and I think he's way better on the ground.

02:35:48.000 But I think Holloway is so damn scrappy.

02:35:51.000 Yeah, he lets it go.

02:35:52.000 He's so confident, and he's so wild.

02:35:54.000 Like, right there, I love that.

02:35:55.000 Right hook to the body, and then straight left afterwards.

02:35:57.000 I was just so impressed with the way he took it to Cub, kept moving, wore him out, hurt him a couple times, almost finished him once, and then finished him again.

02:36:04.000 Look at the body shots, though.

02:36:05.000 He's going right to the body like that.

02:36:06.000 He's an animal, man.

02:36:07.000 Max Holloway's a bad motherfucker.

02:36:09.000 And the other thing about Holloway is he's young.

02:36:12.000 Super young.

02:36:13.000 23. When you get a guy like that, you're seeing him every six months.

02:36:16.000 You're seeing a way better version.

02:36:17.000 Look at his defense.

02:36:18.000 Look at that defense.

02:36:19.000 Crazy.

02:36:19.000 So you can't even judge him by who he used to be six months ago.

02:36:22.000 Agreed.

02:36:23.000 Because he's probably way better now.

02:36:24.000 I think Charles is more dangerous.

02:36:26.000 I just think Max is...

02:36:28.000 I think he puts it together better.

02:36:29.000 That's why I think Mack's going to win.

02:36:31.000 I think he just throws it all out there.

02:36:32.000 He's like, I'm just going to put all my training together.

02:36:34.000 I'm going to throw everything at him right now.

02:36:36.000 I'm not wasting shots.

02:36:38.000 Caution to the wind.

02:36:38.000 I'm having TJ Burrell flashbacks.

02:36:40.000 They have a common opponent, Cub Swanson.

02:36:42.000 Cub Swanson lit Charles Oliveira on fire.

02:36:45.000 And Max Holloway...

02:36:46.000 Yeah...

02:36:48.000 He stopped him early in the first round.

02:36:51.000 And then, of course, Max Holloway just got the biggest win.

02:36:53.000 Damn, he pulled a card.

02:36:54.000 Something was wrong with Cub when they fought.

02:36:56.000 Didn't he get hurt in the first round?

02:36:57.000 I'm not taking anything away from Max.

02:37:00.000 What happened?

02:37:01.000 Oh, shit.

02:37:02.000 His fight's over.

02:37:03.000 Broke his collarbone?

02:37:03.000 Oh, shit.

02:37:04.000 Oh, fuck.

02:37:05.000 Oh, no way.

02:37:06.000 Really?

02:37:07.000 Pay me my money.

02:37:08.000 Damn!

02:37:09.000 One can't put his arm down at her.

02:37:10.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

02:37:12.000 What's going on there, man?

02:37:13.000 He dislocated his shoulder.

02:37:14.000 The camera pulled away from him immediately.

02:37:21.000 Wow, powerful Max Holloway.

02:37:23.000 That's too bad.

02:37:23.000 It would have been fun to see him go.

02:37:24.000 Yeah, it was shaping up to be an interesting fight, but Holloway was teeing up on him already.

02:37:29.000 God damn.

02:37:30.000 I think I just lost 20 bucks.

02:37:32.000 Yeah, man, you did.

02:37:34.000 I'm down 2,000.

02:37:36.000 Eddie lost 2 grand.

02:37:37.000 Look at this.

02:37:38.000 Holy fuck.

02:37:38.000 His collarbone is shattered.

02:37:40.000 Oh fuck, man.

02:37:41.000 What's up, Bomber?

02:37:41.000 You don't want to see that go out like that.

02:37:43.000 Can we get a replay or something?

02:37:46.000 Yeah.

02:37:46.000 Give us some volume, son.

02:37:47.000 Give us some volume, you know, Jamie, so we can find out what they're saying.

02:37:52.000 Why are his wings tattooed differently?

02:37:53.000 One's a devil, one's an angel, bro.

02:37:55.000 Obviously.

02:37:56.000 He's not sure where he's going.

02:37:58.000 He just stopped and went, I'm done.

02:38:01.000 Oh, God.

02:38:01.000 Yeah, well, he's a smart dude.

02:38:04.000 He must have known something was cracked.

02:38:06.000 Write my check, he says.

02:38:08.000 Well, you can't ask for a performance bonus for that.

02:38:11.000 Guy got injured.

02:38:12.000 Definitely not.

02:38:12.000 That's kind of silly.

02:38:13.000 That's a bummer.

02:38:14.000 Let's see what happened here.

02:38:15.000 Although, it was an interesting fight.

02:38:17.000 So he shoots him and hits the fucking...

02:38:19.000 Pulls it up, rips his shoulder.

02:38:21.000 Oh, he hurt it right there?

02:38:22.000 Right there.

02:38:22.000 Yeah, look, look, look, look, look, look.

02:38:24.000 No, no, no.

02:38:26.000 No?

02:38:27.000 Yeah.

02:38:28.000 No, no, no.

02:38:28.000 This is something else.

02:38:30.000 This is something else.

02:38:30.000 Oh, no, no, no.

02:38:32.000 He gets up.

02:38:32.000 Yep, yep, that's it.

02:38:33.000 Something pulled a little bit.

02:38:35.000 No, no, no.

02:38:36.000 Eddie, that's off.

02:38:38.000 I'm not going to charge you too bad for that.

02:38:40.000 Oh, you're a beautiful person.

02:38:42.000 Look at this.

02:38:42.000 So he's been shooting for the takedown.

02:38:45.000 Shooting for the takedown.

02:38:46.000 I would think he broke it, and then he didn't really feel the extent of it until he stood up.

02:38:53.000 Well, let's be quiet.

02:38:53.000 Let's give us some volume.

02:38:54.000 Maybe we can hear.

02:38:55.000 Jamie, give us more volume.

02:38:58.000 Wow.

02:38:59.000 You know what?

02:38:59.000 I'll take whatever bet.

02:39:01.000 You make the next bet, and it'll be double or nothing.

02:39:04.000 You pick.

02:39:04.000 Let's hear what they're saying.

02:39:06.000 Main event.

02:39:08.000 Hold on, shh.

02:39:09.000 I don't know where Sean Shelby went, but I'll find them.

02:39:11.000 Let's circle a date, put these two back on, and put them back in a main event.

02:39:14.000 Let's run this one back.

02:39:15.000 Yeah, stung silence here in Saskatoon.

02:39:18.000 And hopefully Oliveira.

02:39:20.000 That's weird.

02:39:20.000 It seems like he's grabbing his neck, man.

02:39:22.000 That's a collarbone thing though, right?

02:39:24.000 I don't know.

02:39:24.000 Well, it's fucked up that his nose started bleeding immediately when he did that.

02:39:28.000 Shit.

02:39:29.000 It doesn't look good, guys.

02:39:30.000 It doesn't look like...

02:39:31.000 Yeah, no shit.

02:39:32.000 That was a neck thing.

02:39:33.000 It wasn't like his collarbone.

02:39:35.000 His coach kept going like this.

02:39:36.000 Behind him kept going like this.

02:39:37.000 Carotid artery or something.

02:39:39.000 Fuck.

02:39:39.000 That's a bummer.

02:39:41.000 That doesn't count.

02:39:42.000 All bets off on that.

02:39:43.000 Well, you're a beautiful person.

02:39:45.000 Wow.

02:39:45.000 Because Eddie Bravo would have stuffed it right up your ass.

02:39:49.000 I want to do the same thing.

02:39:51.000 That's not a real fight.

02:39:53.000 That's not a real fight.

02:39:54.000 Well, it was a real fight, but I'll tell you what, I was super impressed with Holloway before that.

02:39:57.000 Before the ending, he was really landing some nice shots.

02:40:01.000 He was bringing it in.

02:40:02.000 Moving really well, staying safe.

02:40:03.000 Motherfuckers getting better.

02:40:04.000 He could be the champ.

02:40:05.000 Holloway could be the champ.

02:40:06.000 I agree.

02:40:07.000 He's my dark horse in that division.

02:40:08.000 What's the next UFC? Dodson Johnson?

02:40:11.000 Well, it has to be on a companion, though.

02:40:14.000 Okay.

02:40:15.000 So we gotta figure it out.

02:40:16.000 Damn.

02:40:16.000 Okay.

02:40:17.000 Damn.

02:40:19.000 What a fucking...

02:40:19.000 His fucking collarbone fell off.

02:40:21.000 Well, we hope that's what happened.

02:40:23.000 I'm nervous that he was grabbing his neck.

02:40:25.000 Yeah.

02:40:26.000 I'm nervous that his neck's fucked up.

02:40:28.000 Is there any truth to that?

02:40:29.000 You can get hit in the neck there, like judo shots.

02:40:32.000 Those judo shots.

02:40:33.000 And get fucked up.

02:40:33.000 You saw The Man of Mystery.

02:40:35.000 What do you mean?

02:40:36.000 Austin Powers.

02:40:37.000 You can get hit in the neck and knocked out.

02:40:38.000 Oh, well, for sure.

02:40:39.000 Kicks.

02:40:39.000 Holy cow.

02:40:40.000 In the movies with the gun, they take the gun and go pshh.

02:40:43.000 That's gotta be real.

02:40:45.000 Aubrey's talking about like the judo chop and hit them and they pass out, right?

02:40:49.000 Well, apparently there's that movie about that cult leader that just came out and he killed somebody with judo chops, apparently.

02:40:59.000 The Source Family?

02:41:00.000 Really?

02:41:00.000 This is the guy from the Source Family, yeah.

02:41:02.000 I don't know what that is.

02:41:03.000 He killed a guy with judo chops and then started a cult with a bunch of hot chicks who wore white and he banged them all.

02:41:08.000 What the fuck?

02:41:09.000 There are no chops in judo, but you know what I mean?

02:41:13.000 We always say that.

02:41:13.000 It's in the newspaper clip.

02:41:16.000 In old judo, there was Brian.

02:41:19.000 Well, I saw the Flintstones and they said, Fred Flintstone said, a judo, a judo, a chop, chop, chop.

02:41:23.000 No, it comes from Austin Powers.

02:41:24.000 Judo, chop.

02:41:25.000 No, no, no.

02:41:25.000 It does not.

02:41:26.000 It comes from Fred Flintstone.

02:41:29.000 My decade, it comes from Austin Powers.

02:41:31.000 Austin Powers is a thief.

02:41:33.000 He stole that shit from Fred Flintstone.

02:41:34.000 Look up Source Family judo chops.

02:41:37.000 Alright, perfect.

02:41:38.000 Judo chops.

02:41:38.000 Hey, let's hear it.

02:41:39.000 Give us some volume.

02:41:40.000 Give us some volume.

02:41:40.000 That's a bummer, man.

02:41:41.000 Volume.

02:41:47.000 Let's hear the official...

02:41:50.000 Set of nipples on him.

02:41:57.000 Oh, come on.

02:41:58.000 Why are they calling that TKO? That's ridiculous.

02:42:03.000 Why not medical stoppage?

02:42:04.000 Well, do they revise that if they find out what happened to his neck?

02:42:08.000 I don't know.

02:42:08.000 Or his collarbone or whatever?

02:42:10.000 Let's see what he says.

02:42:13.000 Hey, you know, I want to do like BJ and be the champ.

02:42:18.000 Bring it home.

02:42:18.000 In every way class.

02:42:40.000 So, what is going on with Olivera?

02:42:43.000 We don't know what the hell...

02:42:44.000 Yeah, I'm trying to see it.

02:42:45.000 Fuck, now that's scary, him saying that?

02:42:47.000 Kenny Florence says Charles Olivia hurt his neck when he went headfirst into the cage.

02:42:53.000 Whoa.

02:42:56.000 For sure, he better not have stopped because it was Stinger.

02:42:58.000 Lose my number if you stopped because it was Stinger.

02:43:00.000 Right.

02:43:01.000 Lose my number.

02:43:02.000 He doesn't have your number.

02:43:03.000 First of all, he doesn't even speak English.

02:43:05.000 You'd be surprised.

02:43:06.000 So if he called, he'd be like...

02:43:07.000 You'd be surprised.

02:43:08.000 You talk a lot of shits about Brazil.

02:43:11.000 On the Brazilian internet, they released all his information so everybody can hate him.

02:43:15.000 Oh, I get death threats from Brazilians all the time.

02:43:18.000 One of the coolest moments was, you know, working for the UFC, you're running into these famous fighters all the time, and when Noguera first came over, we started talking, and we exchanged numbers, and I thought it was the craziest shit that I'm exchanging numbers with fucking Noguera.

02:43:34.000 It was so weird.

02:43:35.000 We've never, like, exchanged any texts or anything after that.

02:43:38.000 It was kind of like this, but it was...

02:43:39.000 Really strange.

02:43:40.000 You know who I said that Sam Stout retired?

02:43:42.000 Yeah.

02:43:43.000 His opponent retired.

02:43:44.000 It's his opponent, the 26-year-old opponent, not Sam.

02:43:46.000 His first UFC fight knocks out Sam Stout and says, I'm done.

02:43:50.000 Hey, tight move.

02:43:51.000 Just wanted to get there, knock the guy out.

02:43:53.000 Peace, bitches!

02:43:54.000 Save that head trauma for your mama.

02:43:57.000 Save that head trauma for your mama.

02:43:59.000 Not a bad idea.

02:44:00.000 That's a good t-shirt, Brendan.

02:44:01.000 Save that head trauma for your mama.

02:44:04.000 Let's see if the UG has a...

02:44:06.000 Oh, here it is.

02:44:07.000 Here's the man who killed somebody with judo chops.

02:44:11.000 Judo chops.

02:44:11.000 Looks like Justin Wren.

02:44:13.000 He also calls himself Father Yod.

02:44:15.000 Father Yod.

02:44:16.000 Holloway wins with the judo chop.

02:44:18.000 Abandoned his first wife and daughter to ride to Hollywood on a motorcycle in addition for the role of Tarzan.

02:44:23.000 Well...

02:44:24.000 Yeah, well, he may or may not have killed someone with judo chops.

02:44:27.000 Sounds like a sociopath.

02:44:28.000 He may have shot him.

02:44:29.000 Killed a man.

02:44:30.000 Killed a man.

02:44:32.000 Abandoned his daughter, but then killed a man.

02:44:33.000 So, well, and auditioned for Tarzan.

02:44:36.000 There's a lot of judo chops.

02:44:37.000 Not my guy.

02:44:38.000 It seems like your life.

02:44:41.000 Eugenics.

02:44:41.000 I'm jealous.

02:44:43.000 Eugenics?

02:44:44.000 Oh, no.

02:44:44.000 Somebody said something to theeconomist.com to me about it.

02:44:47.000 Swedish eugenics, 1930s.

02:44:49.000 Somebody was on your side, on my...

02:44:51.000 Timeline?

02:44:51.000 Is it real?

02:44:52.000 It's for real?

02:44:52.000 He also robbed 11 banks.

02:44:54.000 He robbed 11 banks.

02:44:55.000 He sounds like a real peach.

02:44:57.000 Still free though.

02:44:58.000 Still free and running.

02:44:59.000 In his cult, they made one of the doctrines was you had to smoke weed for exactly seven second pulls from the bong.

02:45:06.000 I was like, in the commandments, you had to go.

02:45:09.000 That's hilarious.

02:45:10.000 And then they would do kundalini yoga and get all high and then fuck each other.

02:45:13.000 That's hilarious.

02:45:13.000 I don't see anything.

02:45:14.000 That's hilarious.

02:45:15.000 That part.

02:45:16.000 Yeah, we're trying to find out what happened to Charles Oliveira, but I'm scared, man.

02:45:21.000 I don't like that.

02:45:22.000 No, I don't like that at all.

02:45:23.000 That's a bummer to say.

02:45:24.000 Garbage.

02:45:24.000 Because if you're all amped up with adrenaline and sweating and your neck gets hurt that bad, you're stopping.

02:45:29.000 Especially early on.

02:45:30.000 Early on, you have the nerves, like you said, all the adrenaline.

02:45:33.000 Turn the volume up.

02:45:34.000 What's Michael Bisping saying?

02:45:35.000 Because he had some significant neck problems.

02:45:45.000 Whoa!

02:45:52.000 Look at that dapper fucking Englishman.

02:45:54.000 Beautiful hair.

02:45:55.000 He's a handsome guy.

02:46:00.000 That right eye looks a little suspect.

02:46:02.000 Oh yeah, he's got some serious problems with his eye.

02:46:05.000 He's got oil in his eye.

02:46:06.000 Look at this, look at this, look at this.

02:46:07.000 He's like, dude, dude, dude.

02:46:09.000 At least he didn't punch him in the face there.

02:46:11.000 But he did hit him.

02:46:13.000 He's going, no, no, no, I'm done, I'm done.

02:46:15.000 He's like, oh wait, here's one for your liver.

02:46:17.000 You're not done yet, bitch.

02:46:19.000 So they sent me this thing for Eddie, and they go, between 35 and 76, no fewer than 60,000 young Swedish women deemed mentally defective or otherwise handicapped to a degree, which makes them, quote, incapable of looking after their children or sterilized.

02:46:33.000 Well, that's not quite the same as looking bad, but continue.

02:46:37.000 They were ugly.

02:46:38.000 They cut them out.

02:46:40.000 I'm on your side, brother.

02:46:41.000 The internet's with you.

02:46:42.000 The internet.

02:46:43.000 Apparently they were judged by the symmetry of their face.

02:46:46.000 The internet is mad.

02:46:48.000 They thought that the symmetry of your face determined how...

02:46:51.000 Is that what it says online or are you just guessing?

02:46:54.000 No, economist.com here.

02:46:57.000 I'm just guessing.

02:46:58.000 They did study faces to see if they had any correlation to criminal behavior.

02:47:03.000 That was like skulls, right?

02:47:06.000 Phrenology.

02:47:06.000 Of course, that turned out to be complete shit.

02:47:07.000 They found out ugly people were committing crimes.

02:47:09.000 They did look into it, right?

02:47:10.000 There's a way you could look at someone's face and say they're a criminal.

02:47:12.000 Of course, there's no science to it at all.

02:47:14.000 Of course, but they did it.

02:47:17.000 It was actually considered a science for a while.

02:47:20.000 In Sweden.

02:47:21.000 I think it was actually in the United States.

02:47:23.000 I'm not going to lie to you guys.

02:47:23.000 That main event bummed me out, man.

02:47:25.000 They did that in Sweden.

02:47:26.000 That main event bummed me out.

02:47:28.000 It was definitely a war.

02:47:30.000 It bums me out because I'm worried about that dude's neck.

02:47:33.000 That's real unusual, man.

02:47:35.000 Joe Riggs was the last time that happened when Joe went down from that takedown.

02:47:39.000 But Joe's so battered and beat up, I just figured it was probably an old injury.

02:47:44.000 Yeah, Charles is young, man.

02:47:46.000 Yeah, man.

02:47:47.000 Well, we don't know.

02:47:48.000 We never know.

02:47:53.000 You got out of this one, Eddie.

02:47:55.000 I'll give you that, my man.

02:47:57.000 Well, you got out because you let him out.

02:47:59.000 Yeah, I'll pay you if you want me to.

02:48:00.000 No, I don't want that tainted money.

02:48:05.000 Okay, next fight companion, you pick the main event.

02:48:08.000 If it's close, if it's like Ronda vs.

02:48:10.000 Holly, we can't do that.

02:48:11.000 I'll take Holly home.

02:48:13.000 There's no way he's going to do a fight companion for Ronda Rousey.

02:48:15.000 I can't.

02:48:16.000 I'll be there.

02:48:17.000 I'll be there for that one for sure.

02:48:19.000 Unless it's in Yugoslavia.

02:48:20.000 I was just making an exaggeration point here.

02:48:25.000 They decided to do it in Chechnya.

02:48:26.000 What about when's Barnett Roy Nelson?

02:48:30.000 In Japan, there's no way you're going to that show.

02:48:32.000 No, not happening.

02:48:33.000 But I might be on the road.

02:48:34.000 I don't know.

02:48:35.000 It's always tough.

02:48:36.000 That's the only thing that came to my mind.

02:48:38.000 It's tough to get us all together.

02:48:39.000 The stars align every now and then.

02:48:40.000 But it's good enough.

02:48:41.000 Every now and then, yeah.

02:48:42.000 It's every now and then.

02:48:43.000 And people are like, yeah, you guys talk over each other and you shit on each other.

02:48:47.000 Yes, that's what we do.

02:48:49.000 Yes, we do.

02:48:49.000 That's what friends do.

02:48:50.000 But it's amazing how controlled it is, even in this atmosphere.

02:48:53.000 Booze, weed, a lot.

02:48:55.000 It's amazing that Brian Cowen still tries to give jiu-jitsu advice.

02:48:58.000 Push down on the knee.

02:48:59.000 The first thing I say, butter your chin, push down on the knee.

02:49:03.000 That's when he sat down.

02:49:05.000 Inverted triangle, he said, oh, what you need to do in front of Eddie Brown.

02:49:08.000 It's annoying that people don't know that.

02:49:09.000 You were the most qualified talking about most handsome man, though.

02:49:12.000 No, no, I know that.

02:49:13.000 You're the games guy in this room, for sure.

02:49:15.000 100%, 100%, 100%.

02:49:16.000 But, I mean, and we still really haven't gotten down to it, because you've got to go, Luke, you've got to go your boy, Juban.

02:49:23.000 Also, I think what you're going to need to do in order to really have a definitive idea...

02:49:27.000 We're literally out of time.

02:49:29.000 We're probably done, right?

02:49:30.000 Yeah, we're already done.

02:49:31.000 We're done.

02:49:31.000 This is at three hours.

02:49:32.000 Eddie Bravo on Twitter.

02:49:34.000 Aubrey Marcus on Twitter.

02:49:35.000 Brian Cowan with a Y on Twitter.

02:49:37.000 Tatumus Maximus on...

02:49:38.000 No, Tate Fletcher, fool.

02:49:39.000 Oh, back!

02:49:40.000 Come on.

02:49:40.000 You've got it back.

02:49:41.000 Come on.

02:49:41.000 Who's got Tatum as Maximus?

02:49:42.000 You two?

02:49:43.000 I double up, but I don't ever look at that shit.

02:49:45.000 The other one you should post like ridiculous shit.

02:49:47.000 It's just to be dead.

02:49:48.000 Just post shit.

02:49:49.000 Eddie sends me.

02:49:50.000 That's it.

02:49:52.000 Brendan Schaub in the motherfucking house.

02:49:55.000 I'll show you.

02:49:55.000 Fighter and the Kid.

02:49:56.000 When are you going to bring back Eddie Bravo Radio?

02:49:59.000 That's a good question.

02:50:00.000 Alright.

02:50:01.000 Pirate Life Podcast.

02:50:02.000 Pirate Life Podcast.

02:50:03.000 On It Podcast.

02:50:04.000 Warrior Project.

02:50:06.000 Alright.

02:50:07.000 That's it, fuckers.

02:50:08.000 We'll be back soon.

02:50:09.000 And we're probably going to do an On It one from Texas this week.

02:50:12.000 Aubrey and I are going to go slay pigs.

02:50:14.000 That's right.

02:50:14.000 Not cops.

02:50:15.000 That's rude.

02:50:16.000 I don't call cops pigs.

02:50:17.000 But real wild pigs.

02:50:19.000 Oliveira's neck is braced and he's on a stretcher.

02:50:21.000 They're taking out back.

02:50:22.000 He's still grabbing at his neck.

02:50:23.000 Whoa.

02:50:24.000 Bummer.

02:50:25.000 They will not resign him.

02:50:26.000 Oh my god.

02:50:27.000 Fuck.

02:50:28.000 Alright.

02:50:29.000 Well, all of our hopes and wishes are for Oliveira.

02:50:33.000 You know, send him some love.

02:50:35.000 That's horrible.

02:50:35.000 That sucks.

02:50:36.000 For sure.

02:50:36.000 All right, folks.

02:50:37.000 Thanks for tuning in.

02:50:39.000 And that's it.

02:50:40.000 We'll see you soon.

02:50:40.000 Bye-bye.

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