The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion

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00:00:04.000 Fight Companion 2016 returns, ladies and gentlemen, live from Salt Lake City.

00:00:09.000 Yair Rodriguez versus Alex Caceres.

00:00:12.000 A real slobber knocker.

00:00:14.000 A slobber knocker.

00:00:16.000 So with me here, if you've never heard the Fight Companion before, you're like, oh great, what's a Fight Companion?

00:00:22.000 It's sort of a podcast.

00:00:24.000 It is definitely a podcast.

00:00:26.000 But we're sort of watching the fights and calling the fights, but probably most likely not that much.

00:00:31.000 But it's fun.

00:00:33.000 And the nonsense meter hits red hot.

00:00:35.000 It gets as high as it ever gets.

00:00:36.000 Uh-huh.

00:00:37.000 Ever.

00:00:37.000 Sometimes it breaks.

00:00:38.000 In the history of us.

00:00:39.000 Yeah.

00:00:39.000 Edgy Brahe is here.

00:00:41.000 Edgy Brahe.

00:00:42.000 Eddie Bravo.

00:00:43.000 Hello.

00:00:43.000 Fresh out of recovery.

00:00:45.000 His fucking back is beautiful.

00:00:47.000 Really?

00:00:47.000 Ladies and gentlemen, there's some fucking new technology going on.

00:00:49.000 Eddie Bravo has his disc replaced.

00:00:51.000 We're going to get to that.

00:00:52.000 Brian Callen is here.

00:00:54.000 Holla, Eddie!

00:00:56.000 Clean shaven.

00:00:57.000 Clean shaven.

00:00:59.000 All pro-P shit out.

00:01:01.000 Look at that hair.

00:01:02.000 You look beautiful.

00:01:02.000 Thanks, buddy.

00:01:03.000 I appreciate that.

00:01:03.000 Brandon motherfucking Schaub is in the building.

00:01:06.000 The biggest, strongest guy in the room.

00:01:09.000 Holla.

00:01:09.000 And handsome and young and shit.

00:01:11.000 He's like a gorilla.

00:01:12.000 That's right.

00:01:14.000 I gotta show you guys something because yesterday changed my fucking world.

00:01:17.000 Okay.

00:01:18.000 I did Duncan Trussell's...

00:01:19.000 Duncan Trussell?

00:01:20.000 I did Duncan Trussell's podcast and he introduced me to the world of virtual reality goggles.

00:01:27.000 Holy shit.

00:01:29.000 I'm gonna show you something.

00:01:30.000 I'm gonna show you this game.

00:01:31.000 This is a boxing game.

00:01:33.000 Look up in the upper left hand corner.

00:01:35.000 Alright.

00:01:36.000 This is a boxing game, so I have these gloves on, and it's kind of wacky because the gloves aren't the way you punch.

00:01:43.000 You're holding onto these handles, and I'm fighting this Russian boxing coach dude.

00:01:49.000 Your punching looks good.

00:01:50.000 It's okay, but here's what's goofy about it.

00:01:53.000 In order for your fists to be level, like parallel with the ground, you have to hold them like this.

00:01:58.000 Joystick, almost.

00:01:59.000 Yeah, so you're looking at your...

00:02:00.000 If you're holding your hands like this...

00:02:02.000 Oh, I see.

00:02:02.000 If you're holding your hands with the heel of your hand facing the ground...

00:02:09.000 Like your ski pole.

00:02:10.000 Right, like your skiing.

00:02:11.000 If you're holding your hands like that, your punches are parallel with the floor.

00:02:16.000 Okay.

00:02:17.000 So it's twisted.

00:02:19.000 Okay.

00:02:19.000 Oh, that's weird.

00:02:19.000 For sure fix that.

00:02:20.000 Yeah.

00:02:21.000 They should make it so that you could hold your hand like an actual punch.

00:02:24.000 Right.

00:02:24.000 So like, wherever your hands are, that's where your gloves are.

00:02:27.000 So I'm holding it like this and I'm punching like this.

00:02:29.000 It's real weird.

00:02:31.000 Because you're not...

00:02:32.000 It looks like really good exercise though, right?

00:02:33.000 Oh, it's real good exercise.

00:02:34.000 Is that a prototype?

00:02:35.000 No, it's a new shit.

00:02:37.000 You can go out and buy that too?

00:02:37.000 Yes, you can buy that.

00:02:38.000 There's a bunch of games for these things now, but here's my point.

00:02:40.000 I was moving around this guy.

00:02:43.000 He's throwing punches at me.

00:02:44.000 I'm moving around.

00:02:45.000 I kept hitting him in the back of the head.

00:02:46.000 I would sneak around behind him and beat him in the back of the head and uppercut him.

00:02:49.000 And I'm doing this, and I'm like, oh, my footwork's all awkward.

00:02:52.000 I didn't know what I was doing.

00:02:53.000 I felt weird, like I'm in this virtual world.

00:02:55.000 But after I did it a few times, I started to get the feeling of it.

00:02:58.000 I was like, this is an amazing shadowboxing program.

00:03:01.000 That's pretty sick.

00:03:01.000 That's amazing.

00:03:02.000 I think you can do Muay Thai with it, too.

00:03:04.000 I think you could have it so that you could throw kicks, because it was getting me, it was getting all my movement from these two cameras that Duncan has set up in the room.

00:03:12.000 They're motion detectors.

00:03:13.000 So the cameras, they scan you when you're standing there, and then they build a perimeter around you, and there's a blue line on the ground.

00:03:20.000 You look down, and you're in this 3D world, but you see this blue line on the ground.

00:03:24.000 You can't go past that blue line, because that's the amount of free space that you have in your area.

00:03:27.000 Wow.

00:03:28.000 So sick.

00:03:28.000 Dude!

00:03:29.000 Can you imagine if you could download the opponent you're going to fight and they can shadowbox against them?

00:03:34.000 Exactly.

00:03:34.000 That's exactly what Duncan was saying.

00:03:36.000 What he was saying is if you could make a training simulation of a guy, you could fight him a hundred times before you ever actually fight him.

00:03:46.000 You can get comfortable with seeing him in front of you.

00:03:49.000 And I'm telling you, man, what I was looking at was kind of cartoonish, like this Russian boxing guy's kind of cartoonish.

00:03:56.000 He's got a wife beater on and headgear and shit.

00:03:57.000 It's kind of cartoonish.

00:03:59.000 It doesn't have to be.

00:04:00.000 It's only cartoonish now.

00:04:02.000 You could get to a point within a few years where you're going to be boxing a guy that looks exactly like Joe Schilling.

00:04:09.000 And has his tendencies.

00:04:10.000 You know how big of a deal that would be?

00:04:12.000 You can do that.

00:04:13.000 That can be done.

00:04:13.000 How big of an advantage that would be?

00:04:15.000 That's insane.

00:04:15.000 Well, it would certainly be a great training tool.

00:04:16.000 Well, this looks like Wolfenstein, but we've got a ways to go.

00:04:19.000 But look at this.

00:04:20.000 This is what it looks like.

00:04:21.000 See, so your gloves, it's weird.

00:04:24.000 You have to kind of turn your gloves off.

00:04:26.000 Funky.

00:04:27.000 So that they look normal on the screen.

00:04:29.000 Right.

00:04:30.000 But other than that, it's kind of dope.

00:04:32.000 It's fun to do.

00:04:33.000 And I'll tell you what, this isn't nearly as fun as the archery program.

00:04:37.000 There was an archery one when you're in a castle, and you're on a roof, and you hear...

00:04:42.000 And these fucking warriors come storming at you, and they have helmets on, and they have shields, and you're shooting arrows at them.

00:04:49.000 Sounds so sick.

00:04:51.000 It's the same handles, though, right?

00:04:54.000 The same goofy handles, but there's haptic feedback, so this is the archery one that I was playing.

00:05:00.000 Those graphics are fucking tough, though, Joe.

00:05:03.000 It's like Nintendo 64. They're a little tough.

00:05:08.000 It's because you're dealing with massive amounts of rendering in real time.

00:05:12.000 Right.

00:05:13.000 360 degrees, up and down.

00:05:14.000 And these are all new things.

00:05:16.000 Yeah.

00:05:16.000 Like, you get to use them.

00:05:17.000 But I was jacking these motherfuckers up.

00:05:20.000 Ooh, headshot, son.

00:05:21.000 What are you, a Mongol on horseback?

00:05:22.000 I am, I am.

00:05:24.000 So it's weird.

00:05:25.000 So when you pull the bow back, there's no resistance, but there's this vibration.

00:05:29.000 It's like shaking as you pull it back.

00:05:31.000 Damn.

00:05:31.000 So it really feels like you're pulling it back.

00:05:33.000 Yeah.

00:05:33.000 And then it gets to the point where it's locked out, you feel it, like, click.

00:05:37.000 That's pretty fucking cool.

00:05:38.000 Dude, it's dope!

00:05:39.000 I shot this stupid fucking game until my arms were so sore they were shaking.

00:05:45.000 I was going to say, now gamers are probably going to look like MMA fighters.

00:05:50.000 Or at least runners.

00:05:51.000 They're going to be in shape.

00:05:52.000 But I think, man, if you remember those Dance Dance Revolution kids that were losing like 30 pounds playing Dance Dance...

00:05:58.000 Okay, first fight is on.

00:06:00.000 It's between two ladies.

00:06:01.000 We do not have their names yet.

00:06:03.000 Jamie, can you pull up the card so we'll let people know?

00:06:06.000 So I've seen this tall woman fight in, I think, Tough.

00:06:10.000 Round one of three.

00:06:12.000 It's at 443-210.

00:06:16.000 Powerful rash guard.

00:06:18.000 Yeah, you know, they've just passed new rules today.

00:06:20.000 They're going to make women wear tight-fitting clothing.

00:06:23.000 They're not going to allow loose-fitting clothing.

00:06:25.000 Who's ever worn loose?

00:06:27.000 This girl's got shorts.

00:06:29.000 I mean, how tight are those?

00:06:30.000 I think they should all wear spandex.

00:06:31.000 I think men should, too.

00:06:33.000 I've seen guys grab shorts.

00:06:34.000 You have, too.

00:06:35.000 If you go back to the Chael Sonnen-Anderson Silva fight, there's a famous picture of Anderson Silva pulling Chael Sonnen shorts down.

00:06:42.000 I feel like in the last year alone, I feel like women have gotten exponentially better.

00:06:49.000 Oh, yeah.

00:06:49.000 Is that true?

00:06:50.000 Oh, yeah.

00:06:50.000 Well, there's some fucking beasts.

00:06:52.000 Damn, she's jacked in that picture.

00:06:53.000 Okay, so we got Marina Moroz.

00:06:59.000 Is it Marina, you think?

00:07:01.000 Marina Moroz.

00:07:03.000 And Danielle Taylor.

00:07:05.000 From Ukraine.

00:07:06.000 Iron Lady.

00:07:07.000 There's a lot of women from the Ukraine, man.

00:07:09.000 A lot of those hard-ass Soviet bloc women.

00:07:11.000 Come from those boxing programs.

00:07:14.000 Dude, Valentina Shevchenko, the woman who just beat Holly Holm, she's so solid, man.

00:07:19.000 She's so solid.

00:07:21.000 She's gonna be trouble.

00:07:21.000 Her counter, she's got it in her DNA where she's throwing them spinning back fist counters.

00:07:27.000 She's got that down better than anybody I've seen, right?

00:07:30.000 Yeah, she does everything, man.

00:07:31.000 She does that real good.

00:07:33.000 She's got that sweet counter right hook.

00:07:35.000 Poor Holly, man.

00:07:36.000 That girl's a multiple-time Muay Thai champion.

00:07:40.000 So, like, the girls who are going to give her problems are not the girls like Holly.

00:07:44.000 Girls like Holly, like, Holly's going to, like, stand there and strike with her, and Valentina has so much fucking striking experience.

00:07:50.000 The girls who are going to give Shevchenko problems are the girls who are going to be looking to take her down.

00:07:55.000 A girl is not going to just stand in front of her.

00:07:58.000 A girl is going to present a bunch of options.

00:08:02.000 Misha Tate, the striking would be an issue.

00:08:05.000 She can grapple her ass off though.

00:08:07.000 She can scramble her ass off.

00:08:09.000 So can Shevchenko.

00:08:11.000 Shevchenko can wrestle really well.

00:08:13.000 She's strong.

00:08:14.000 She's not like Misha's love as far as grappling goes.

00:08:16.000 But when she fought Sarah Kaufman in her first fight, she out-grappled her.

00:08:19.000 She kind of did.

00:08:21.000 Surprised her with the takedowns.

00:08:22.000 She did surprise her.

00:08:23.000 And she took that fight on super short notice, if I remember.

00:08:27.000 She's a beast, man.

00:08:28.000 I feel like Holly's hesitant lately.

00:08:31.000 Hey, man.

00:08:31.000 She has tough matchups.

00:08:32.000 No joke, dude.

00:08:33.000 And she kept cracking her with that counter right hook.

00:08:36.000 That lead counter hook.

00:08:37.000 She kept taking her head off the center line and just dropping that right hook in.

00:08:40.000 She's a world-class striker, man.

00:08:42.000 So is Holly, though.

00:08:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:08:44.000 She is.

00:08:44.000 But don't you think that Holly is in more of a boxing world?

00:08:48.000 Like, she's a 19-time boxing champion.

00:08:51.000 Like, Holly's boxing.

00:08:52.000 Like, as far as her footwork, her speed, her movement, especially her counters.

00:08:57.000 Like, when someone's going after her, she's brilliant as a counter striker.

00:09:00.000 I feel like Holly is the fastest, probably the fastest striker as far as just being able to get her shots off.

00:09:06.000 Like if you were to time from when she throws to somebody's face.

00:09:09.000 She's certainly fast, but I mean, in her weight class, maybe she's the fastest.

00:09:13.000 Or one of the fastest.

00:09:14.000 Yoana's going, huh?

00:09:15.000 Yeah, Yoana's faster.

00:09:15.000 Shut your fucking mouth, Yoana.

00:09:17.000 This is true.

00:09:17.000 You ever seen Yoana do those videos on Twitter where her trainer's holding pads and she's ripping into them?

00:09:23.000 Yeah.

00:09:23.000 It looks fake.

00:09:24.000 Dude.

00:09:25.000 She's insane.

00:09:26.000 Yeah.

00:09:27.000 Ta-da-da-da!

00:09:27.000 She's the best striker in the UFC. Jamie, see if you can pull some of those up.

00:09:31.000 If you can try to spell her name.

00:09:33.000 You think she's the best striker in the UFC even among guys?

00:09:35.000 I do.

00:09:35.000 That's a huge thing to say.

00:09:37.000 Damn.

00:09:38.000 Well, I would say Wonderboy would argue with that.

00:09:41.000 And I would say that there's a few other fighters that are just strikers.

00:09:46.000 Overeem being K-1 Grand Prix champion.

00:09:48.000 But you know what, man?

00:09:50.000 The real problem is saying she's the best or one person's the best.

00:09:54.000 It's so subjective, especially if they're never going to fight each other.

00:09:57.000 We all love to do it.

00:09:58.000 It also depends the caliber of person you're fighting, too.

00:10:01.000 Watch this.

00:10:01.000 Look at this.

00:10:02.000 She's doing these sprawls, and she's getting up, firing combinations.

00:10:06.000 You look at pure technique, though, man.

00:10:07.000 She's a fucking nightmare.

00:10:09.000 Oh, dude.

00:10:10.000 She's so sharp.

00:10:11.000 In the fight, too?

00:10:12.000 Yeah.

00:10:13.000 She's super sharp.

00:10:14.000 You don't see Overeem with that same technique.

00:10:15.000 Granted, he's a K-1 world champion.

00:10:17.000 It's different, too.

00:10:18.000 It's hard to compare.

00:10:19.000 115-pound girl, 200-gillion-pound man.

00:10:22.000 It's kind of tough.

00:10:23.000 He smoked Junior Dos Santos with one shot.

00:10:25.000 200-gillion-pound man.

00:10:26.000 I don't know why that's funny to me.

00:10:28.000 He smoked Junior Dos Santos with one left hook.

00:10:31.000 I mean, Alistair Overeem is a beast.

00:10:34.000 Oh, God.

00:10:34.000 Yes, he's a beast of the beast.

00:10:36.000 It's hard to look at him the same way you look at anybody else, because first of all, he's in a division where anyone connects, everybody goes night-night, right?

00:10:45.000 Correct.

00:10:46.000 So you're fighting differently.

00:10:47.000 It's such a totally different kind of world.

00:10:49.000 We don't see his technique, because one of his jabs will knock a motherfucker out, so you don't see five rounds of over him like you do with Johanna.

00:10:55.000 Johanna will go the distance, and her technique will be flawless.

00:10:59.000 Minute one in the first round to minute one in the next.

00:11:02.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:11:03.000 But she can also tend to be...

00:11:04.000 Somebody at that size can afford to be and take more chances and actually stand in the pocket and throw.

00:11:10.000 Whereas you guys, at your weight, you've got to be so careful because one mistake...

00:11:15.000 Don't say you guys.

00:11:15.000 I got out of that bullshit.

00:11:16.000 I'm saying heavyweights.

00:11:17.000 The margin for error seems like it's so much smaller.

00:11:20.000 100%.

00:11:20.000 You're totally right.

00:11:22.000 100%, Brian.

00:11:22.000 I think that these guys, you know, you're looking at, like, Ben Rothwell.

00:11:27.000 Like, Ben Rothwell knocked out Overeem in the first round.

00:11:30.000 And now Overeem is going to be fighting for the title against Stipe.

00:11:34.000 But Ben Rothwell just got, like, a full five-round beating by Junior Dos Santos.

00:11:40.000 He got dealt with.

00:11:41.000 Junior Dos Santos boxed his face off.

00:11:43.000 It was crazy.

00:11:44.000 It was like, the best Junior has looked in years.

00:11:46.000 And kicked him.

00:11:47.000 Front kicked him.

00:11:47.000 And then you've got to think that Alistair knocked out Junior.

00:11:50.000 I agree.

00:11:51.000 So the MMA math in the heavyweight division is bananas.

00:11:54.000 Yep.

00:11:55.000 Silly.

00:11:55.000 Super silly, yeah.

00:11:56.000 Everyone is so powerful.

00:11:58.000 Everyone's so big.

00:11:59.000 Like, Stipe knocking out Verdum like that.

00:12:01.000 Nuts.

00:12:01.000 Jesus Christ.

00:12:03.000 This is a crazy-ass division in the craziest sport.

00:12:06.000 And it's also an older division.

00:12:09.000 That's what's amazing to me.

00:12:10.000 Do we know any young heavyweights who are 21, 22, like that age, even in the mix?

00:12:16.000 Well, I'll tell you who everybody should be putting their attention on.

00:12:20.000 Can I guess?

00:12:21.000 Yeah.

00:12:22.000 Go ahead.

00:12:22.000 Derek Lewis?

00:12:23.000 Francis Ganot.

00:12:25.000 Oh, you're talking about the...

00:12:26.000 The Cameroon dude who's a natural 2.0?

00:12:29.000 What?

00:12:30.000 Dude.

00:12:30.000 What?

00:12:31.000 We haven't seen him grapple, though.

00:12:33.000 Cameroon.

00:12:34.000 Dude, he's a fucking powerful man.

00:12:37.000 He looks like straight Predator.

00:12:38.000 I'm telling you, when that dude moves in on guys and he throws bombs on them, I'm just, I'm waiting for a really solid opponent for him.

00:12:46.000 Because, like, we have not seen him tested.

00:12:49.000 He's fought all scrubs.

00:12:51.000 And starched him.

00:12:52.000 Yeah, we have not seen him tested, but I'll tell you, look at him up there.

00:12:55.000 Dude, I'm telling you.

00:12:56.000 And he's got very sharp technique.

00:12:58.000 How old is he?

00:12:59.000 He's young.

00:13:00.000 He's not that young, is he?

00:13:01.000 I think he's 28. How old is he?

00:13:04.000 I would say 28's young.

00:13:05.000 It's in the heavyweight division, it's young.

00:13:07.000 I think in the heavyweight division, guys just need more time.

00:13:10.000 Francis Nagano.

00:13:11.000 29. 29. So he's damn near 30. Yeah, he'll be 30 in September, actually.

00:13:16.000 He's a monster, though.

00:13:18.000 I think he's in his prime, for sure, as an athlete.

00:13:21.000 We don't know what he can do.

00:13:22.000 I'd like to see him versus Derrick Lewis.

00:13:23.000 I would love to see that.

00:13:25.000 Derrick Lewis looked so good in that Roy Nelson fight.

00:13:27.000 Goddamn, he looked good.

00:13:28.000 That's a tough fight, too, man.

00:13:29.000 He looked good, man.

00:13:30.000 His combinations were fast.

00:13:32.000 He looked really improved.

00:13:34.000 You know how you see a guy fight and you go, whoa, this guy hit another level.

00:13:38.000 That's how I felt with Derrick Lewis.

00:13:39.000 Was he the guy who got knocked out by Metreon?

00:13:40.000 Yes.

00:13:41.000 He just wasn't ready for that.

00:13:43.000 But that Roy Nelson's a huge step.

00:13:46.000 And to go three rounds with Roy, there couldn't be a better thing for his career.

00:13:49.000 Because he's just starching guys.

00:13:51.000 You don't learn shit, trust me.

00:13:52.000 You don't learn shit.

00:13:53.000 And then you go three rounds with a vet like Roy.

00:13:55.000 I was just so impressed with his combinations.

00:13:58.000 That's what I was most impressed with.

00:13:59.000 Wow, the way he's putting it together.

00:14:01.000 And his endurance, too.

00:14:02.000 Because I thought he was just a meathead throwing bombs.

00:14:04.000 No, no, no.

00:14:06.000 If you look at his previous side, it's kind of like, alright, he's just a big, powerful guy.

00:14:09.000 Yeah, he lands right hand, the guy's going to sleep.

00:14:11.000 But you look at Roy, you're like, shit, he's putting combos together, man.

00:14:13.000 Yeah, he This cardio is decent.

00:14:15.000 Oh, she got clipped.

00:14:17.000 Yeah, he put real good combinations together.

00:14:19.000 I'd like to see him versus your boy, the predator.

00:14:22.000 That would be a very interesting fight.

00:14:24.000 He's had much more experience against higher level guys, I guess you'd say, right?

00:14:30.000 Mitrione and now Roy Nelson.

00:14:33.000 Mitrione's tough guy got starched, so he didn't get a lot of experience.

00:14:36.000 He didn't really learn from it.

00:14:37.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:14:38.000 But how many fights has Derrick had now in the UFC? I want to say four?

00:14:43.000 Probably five, right?

00:14:46.000 The thing is, with both those guys, if you give them...

00:14:49.000 You know, because when you get to the top, not every guy's going to sit there and bang with you.

00:14:53.000 Right.

00:14:53.000 You can get a wrestler.

00:14:54.000 See, but the thing about Gano is his Muay Thai.

00:14:56.000 What makes me super interested in him, not just is his speed, his size, his ability to put guys away, like what we're seeing.

00:15:05.000 I mean, he puts guys away.

00:15:06.000 But it's also the way you're watching them move.

00:15:09.000 Very, like, fluid athlete.

00:15:12.000 Like, when he's doing things, everything's...

00:15:14.000 He's smooth.

00:15:15.000 And he throws hard fucking kicks, man.

00:15:18.000 Yeah, the only X factor with him is the grappling.

00:15:20.000 Yeah, so Derek's had four more wins.

00:15:23.000 He beat Gabriel Gonzaga, he beat Grabowski, and he beat Victor Beska before he fought Nelson.

00:15:31.000 Looks good, man.

00:15:32.000 He looks real good, dude.

00:15:34.000 Real good.

00:15:34.000 Four fight, win streak, and getting wins over Gonzaga and Nelson, two vats.

00:15:38.000 Yeah, I remember that fight with Sean Jordan, too, but I think Sean Jordan hook kicked him in the head.

00:15:43.000 Yeah, he did.

00:15:44.000 That was crazy.

00:15:45.000 That was crazy.

00:15:45.000 That was the first time anybody has ever, and he's a huge guy, but the first time anybody ever, like, hay-oed somebody with a hook kick.

00:15:51.000 I don't think so.

00:15:52.000 Did he?

00:15:53.000 Sean Jordan?

00:15:53.000 I feel like he did.

00:15:54.000 Maybe.

00:15:55.000 Wow.

00:15:56.000 Great guy, though.

00:15:57.000 Really nice guy.

00:15:58.000 And he was short for a heavyweight, man.

00:16:00.000 He's a large man.

00:16:01.000 He's a tank, though.

00:16:02.000 What is he?

00:16:02.000 Played football at LSU fullback on the national championship team.

00:16:05.000 By the way, he could do backflips.

00:16:07.000 What?

00:16:07.000 Very easily.

00:16:08.000 He's 260. That's ridiculous.

00:16:09.000 That's a backflip.

00:16:10.000 Fucking sticks it.

00:16:11.000 That is stupid.

00:16:12.000 And he's nice as fuck.

00:16:14.000 He's a great guy.

00:16:15.000 Great guy.

00:16:15.000 What's up?

00:16:16.000 Is it easier to become untakedownable as a heavyweight or as a lightweight or a welterweight?

00:16:23.000 No.

00:16:24.000 Probably depends on who you're wrestling on.

00:16:25.000 At heavyweight, there's a lot less explosive guys that are going to take you down.

00:16:33.000 I disagree with that.

00:16:35.000 Really?

00:16:35.000 There's some explosive fucking guys at heavyweight, man.

00:16:38.000 Taking shots, though.

00:16:40.000 There's this Russian dude who's going to join the ranks of MMA after the Olympics.

00:16:46.000 You know what I'm talking about?

00:16:47.000 The Russian heavyweight dude?

00:16:49.000 Not Karelin.

00:16:50.000 Just pull this motherfucker up.

00:16:52.000 Pull this guy up.

00:16:53.000 Everybody's fucked.

00:16:54.000 Everybody's fucked.

00:16:56.000 Everybody's fucked.

00:16:57.000 Those Russian scientific experiments that live in Siberia.

00:17:00.000 This dude is so good.

00:17:02.000 He's so technical.

00:17:04.000 And so fucking stupid strong.

00:17:06.000 He's freestyle.

00:17:07.000 Freestyle.

00:17:08.000 His fucking takedowns are ruthless.

00:17:11.000 He runs through guys.

00:17:12.000 He just keeps running backwards.

00:17:14.000 He just keeps running forwards.

00:17:15.000 Just tripping.

00:17:16.000 I'm hitting one takedown after the next.

00:17:18.000 Who can do that in the heavyweight division right now?

00:17:20.000 Well, there he is.

00:17:20.000 Cain Velasquez.

00:17:21.000 Yeah.

00:17:22.000 Pull up video of the homeboy and give me his full name because I don't want to butcher his name.

00:17:25.000 He's not hearing a peep out of any wrestler he comes up against.

00:17:28.000 Not a peep.

00:17:29.000 Well, MMA's different.

00:17:31.000 MMA wrestling's different.

00:17:33.000 Bilyal Makov.

00:17:34.000 Is that how you say it, Brian?

00:17:36.000 How do you say that?

00:17:36.000 I would say it's Bilyal Makov.

00:17:42.000 So watch this motherfucker wrestle.

00:17:46.000 He's so fucking fast and so big.

00:17:49.000 He's 290. And so strong.

00:17:50.000 And when he gets to MMA, when he gets to MMA, he's running through motherfuckers.

00:17:55.000 You are not stopping this takedown.

00:17:59.000 This is not happening.

00:18:00.000 Oh, what a nightmare.

00:18:01.000 And for sure he's going to do MMA? Yes, 100%.

00:18:03.000 100%.

00:18:04.000 Dude, I'm telling you, he's just going to be throwing dudes around.

00:18:07.000 They're not going to know what the fuck to do.

00:18:09.000 You know how it is, Joe.

00:18:11.000 MMA wrestling's different than what he's doing, though.

00:18:13.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:18:13.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.

00:18:14.000 Look, he's going to have more trouble.

00:18:15.000 There's going to be guys who figure out how to push him off.

00:18:18.000 They're going to be more defensive.

00:18:19.000 These guys are forced to engage with him, right?

00:18:21.000 There's going to be guys that are not going to want to engage with him.

00:18:23.000 We're going to have much more distance.

00:18:25.000 Verdum ain't going to be easy to take down.

00:18:26.000 That's right.

00:18:27.000 Even when you do take him down, enjoy that.

00:18:30.000 He's got a problem.

00:18:31.000 Yeah, he's got a lot of problems.

00:18:34.000 But he's not going to fight Verdum right off the bat, obviously.

00:18:37.000 No, he's going to be on that Derek Lewis and the Francis Ganot track.

00:18:40.000 And by the way, who's to say this guy can't punch a fucking hole through your universe?

00:18:46.000 I'm not saying he can't.

00:18:47.000 Look at the way he's built.

00:18:48.000 I bet that guy could throw fucking hammers.

00:18:51.000 I want no problems.

00:18:52.000 Who's to say he's not been boxing anyway since he was eight?

00:18:54.000 Listen, if he's preparing for the UFC, is this him right here?

00:18:58.000 Yep.

00:18:58.000 Oh, don't show me.

00:18:59.000 This is terrible.

00:18:59.000 God damn it.

00:19:01.000 That doesn't mean anything.

00:19:02.000 He just ruined everything.

00:19:03.000 Elbows in, sir!

00:19:04.000 He's just shadowboxing.

00:19:05.000 I want to see him hit something.

00:19:06.000 Stiff as fuck.

00:19:08.000 Yeah, his hands are...

00:19:08.000 What's going on with his wrists?

00:19:10.000 It's like he's trying to grab people as he's punching them.

00:19:12.000 Hey, for the record, I'm not the one laughing.

00:19:15.000 I was going to say, I'm just watching.

00:19:16.000 I don't have to find him either.

00:19:18.000 I think he looks great.

00:19:20.000 Yeah, see, he's such a big fucking gorilla, though.

00:19:23.000 He could just haymaker on you.

00:19:24.000 True.

00:19:25.000 He could be on that Brock Lesnar and say, fuck, strike, and check this double leg out.

00:19:30.000 He's definitely got to work on his kicks, too.

00:19:32.000 But hey, man, he's a super athlete.

00:19:34.000 Yeah, that's terrible.

00:19:35.000 Goddammit.

00:19:36.000 His timing's off so bad.

00:19:37.000 Yeah, who knows how long ago this is, too.

00:19:39.000 Yeah, and by the way, he probably could get better in a month.

00:19:42.000 Like, bring him to Dwayne Ludwig.

00:19:44.000 Yeah, his learning curve is probably...

00:19:46.000 Oh, yeah, man.

00:19:47.000 You know, he's such a super athlete.

00:19:48.000 He should fly right to AK right now and just be like, what's up?

00:19:50.000 Yeah, he's a fucking super athlete, man.

00:19:52.000 Look at the size of this fuck.

00:19:53.000 Stop.

00:19:54.000 How tall is it?

00:19:55.000 He's so big!

00:19:56.000 How tall is it?

00:19:56.000 I don't know.

00:19:57.000 Probably like 7'8".

00:19:58.000 Jamie, how big is this fucking gorilla?

00:20:00.000 Oh my god.

00:20:01.000 6'5", 290. Jesus Christ!

00:20:03.000 Jesus Christ!

00:20:04.000 He's got a lot of weight to lose!

00:20:05.000 He's got to get to 265!

00:20:07.000 6'5", 290!

00:20:08.000 How is he going to get to 265?

00:20:10.000 Because you saw the test better than the Olympics.

00:20:12.000 That's what I was going to say!

00:20:13.000 Yusala's going to be sniffing his ass so much.

00:20:17.000 All wrestling muscle.

00:20:18.000 This guy's probably on some straight fucking DNA manipulation.

00:20:23.000 He's out of a movie.

00:20:24.000 He's fucking Bebop and Rock Study from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

00:20:28.000 He's so far ahead of the curve, they don't even need steroids.

00:20:30.000 They just put this dude in one of them easy-bake microwave ovens.

00:20:34.000 He's like Bane.

00:20:35.000 He's fucking Bane.

00:20:36.000 Good luck with that.

00:20:37.000 The size of this fucking dude is a big guy.

00:20:41.000 Just wrestling, just throwing men around.

00:20:42.000 And the problem is, like, okay, say he does get down to 265 and then he starts fighting in MMA. And if he's 290, I don't know if he competes at 290. Well, he's a heavyweight.

00:20:50.000 I don't think he has to lose any weight, right?

00:20:52.000 So maybe if he just watches his diet and incorporates more striking and some running and shit like that, he might get down to 270 anyway and just be able to slide under.

00:21:02.000 Yeah.

00:21:03.000 Just get in the steam room, lose a couple 10 pounds?

00:21:06.000 I don't think it's gonna be that hard.

00:21:07.000 That guy takes 10-pound shits.

00:21:09.000 He has a side of him.

00:21:10.000 He has a long road ahead of him, either way.

00:21:12.000 Oh, yeah.

00:21:12.000 Well, he does.

00:21:14.000 But, you know what, man?

00:21:15.000 Guys that become, like, that level world champion at anything that's combat sport related, they figure it out, man.

00:21:22.000 Look at DC. Yeah, exactly.

00:21:25.000 DC's a perfect example.

00:21:26.000 That guy's a monster.

00:21:27.000 Perfect example.

00:21:28.000 Yeah, that kind of work ethic.

00:21:31.000 DC's not physically, you know, this big either.

00:21:34.000 Imposing.

00:21:34.000 Yeah, imposing at all.

00:21:35.000 I don't want this guy hitting me.

00:21:37.000 You don't want this guy hitting you.

00:21:39.000 If it's that slow, you do.

00:21:40.000 He might be stiff, dude.

00:21:42.000 This is a big motherfucker.

00:21:43.000 You do not want this guy hitting you.

00:21:45.000 I'm telling you, man, he's not even doing it perfectly yet.

00:21:50.000 He's off his feet when he's punching.

00:21:51.000 He's not sitting down enough.

00:21:53.000 He's not torquing his hips enough.

00:21:55.000 But good luck if you take one of those on the chin.

00:21:59.000 That's a big fucking dude, man.

00:22:01.000 Yeah, he's getting a lot of people problems.

00:22:02.000 I mean, if you look at the way he's striking, like fluidity, you want to look at a big, fluid guy?

00:22:08.000 Look at Rico Verhoeven.

00:22:10.000 Rico Verhoeven, the Glory Heavyweight Champion?

00:22:13.000 Yeah, he's doing both, right?

00:22:14.000 He's gonna fight Badr Hari, though.

00:22:17.000 Yes, I saw that.

00:22:18.000 Badr Hari's my boy!

00:22:20.000 We should do something for that.

00:22:22.000 See if you get a clip of that guy fighting.

00:22:25.000 He's like what you want to see when you look at a heavyweight striker.

00:22:29.000 So if this gentleman, this Russian gentleman, just figures out how to sit down more on his stuff, he's so athletic!

00:22:36.000 Rico's not hearing a peep out of that Russian polar bear.

00:22:40.000 Not a fucking heap.

00:22:43.000 Well, you don't think that guy can take Rico down?

00:22:46.000 Fuck no!

00:22:47.000 He's that AK just training takedown defense.

00:22:49.000 Oh man.

00:22:50.000 Throwing fucking knees to end your world.

00:22:52.000 I wish I had so much faith.

00:22:54.000 I don't know, man.

00:22:55.000 Rico and Rico's more of a beast, I think.

00:22:58.000 He's a bad motherfucker when it comes to kickboxing, for sure.

00:23:00.000 My God!

00:23:01.000 What's interesting about him is his pace.

00:23:03.000 Because he puts a pace on heavyweights they just can't fuck with, and he's not a little heavyweight.

00:23:07.000 No, he's massive.

00:23:08.000 Look how big his fucking legs are.

00:23:12.000 Oh!

00:23:14.000 He's left high-cooking people in the face with his front leg as a heavyweight.

00:23:18.000 He's a big dude.

00:23:19.000 What he's doing is more impressive to me as a big guy.

00:23:22.000 To be that athletic and smooth and just world-class kickboxer, it's nuts.

00:23:27.000 Well, yeah, I mean, look, it's super impressive, but you can't deny how impressive it is that that Russian gentleman is just dominating.

00:23:35.000 They're both impressed.

00:23:36.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:23:37.000 I'm saying if I have to invest in one, let's say they're both 21 years old, Rico's about to kick your fucking face off.

00:23:43.000 Yeah.

00:23:44.000 The other guy's gonna take you down and hump you.

00:23:46.000 He's a bad motherfucker.

00:23:46.000 Well, that guy might, I don't know, he might take you down.

00:23:48.000 He might spike it on your neck and...

00:23:48.000 He might pull your face off.

00:23:51.000 It helps to put your face off.

00:23:52.000 Russian stuff.

00:23:54.000 Will Sasso was telling us about that.

00:23:56.000 Who was a Samoan wrestler?

00:23:58.000 He was a WWE guy, and he was so big, he got in a fight in a bar, and he reached into the dude's mouth.

00:24:03.000 Oh, no.

00:24:03.000 He reached into the dude's mouth with his giant Samoan fingers, and he grabbed the bottom of his teeth and just went, and broke his teeth out of his mouth.

00:24:11.000 King Kong.

00:24:12.000 Yeah, he just went, hey, you're talking to him.

00:24:15.000 Oh, my God.

00:24:17.000 Pulled his bottom teeth out, broke them off.

00:24:19.000 Jesus Christ.

00:24:20.000 Some big guys.

00:24:21.000 Hey, you know what this party needs?

00:24:24.000 Who whine?

00:24:25.000 I could use a little wine.

00:24:27.000 Send out the Brian signal.

00:24:29.000 I just forgot what the fuck I was going to ask you guys about.

00:24:32.000 We're talking about Rico and the Russian barbarian.

00:24:34.000 I wanted to talk about the Russian doping program.

00:24:36.000 Because they almost pulled the entire Russian team out of the Olympics.

00:24:41.000 Because the government was in on it.

00:24:42.000 I got a great Russian doping story.

00:24:45.000 Alright, we'll wait on it.

00:24:47.000 There's a whole fight going on, we're not even paying attention.

00:24:49.000 I didn't see one minute.

00:24:50.000 This is what a fight companion is.

00:24:52.000 No, I've been balls deep in this Russian.

00:24:54.000 I haven't seen one fucking ounce of this fight.

00:24:57.000 Back to this fight real quick, unless you guys got more shit, but you were talking about a new rule change, about tighter clothes and like...

00:25:03.000 Yeah, there was one of the things that I might have read it wrong.

00:25:06.000 I want to make sure I get it right, but I believe that one of the new rule changes is no loose clothing for female fighters.

00:25:12.000 It's been a problem?

00:25:14.000 I don't know.

00:25:15.000 If they had to make a rule, you would think that, you know, we got to stop this.

00:25:18.000 How are they not going to change the 12-6 elbows?

00:25:20.000 Might have happened once or twice.

00:25:21.000 I do not know.

00:25:22.000 What the fuck?

00:25:23.000 You know they changed all these rules, right, Eddie?

00:25:24.000 Yeah.

00:25:25.000 The sanctioned body changed a bunch of rules, like what wins rounds, 10-8 rounds, stuff like that.

00:25:30.000 And I'm like, sweet, I bet they do 12-6 elbows.

00:25:33.000 Yeah, they should have done that, but what they did do that's even more interesting, honestly, is this new rule about putting your hands down the mat.

00:25:41.000 You have to have both your hands flat on the mat, both hands, to constitute being in a position where you can't get kicked or kneed.

00:25:48.000 That's better.

00:25:49.000 Oh, yeah.

00:25:50.000 That's way better.

00:25:51.000 Way better.

00:25:51.000 Because it makes it less of a fucking game.

00:25:53.000 It's real shit.

00:25:55.000 I agree.

00:25:55.000 I think that's the beginning of just crushing that altogether.

00:25:58.000 Yeah, it needs to be crushed because we have to be honest about what the sport is, okay?

00:26:03.000 And there's a sport of fighting.

00:26:05.000 And if you take away some really super effective maneuvers, but you leave in a bunch of other super effective maneuvers, like, we've got to be consistent, and we're not consistent.

00:26:14.000 And there's a position where you can be kind of safe When you have your hand on the mat, you can't be kneed in the face, you can't be kicked in the face.

00:26:21.000 But that causes, like, safety-first kind of behavior.

00:26:24.000 But also, guys are taking advantage of it.

00:26:26.000 Playing this weird game.

00:26:28.000 It's super unrealistic.

00:26:29.000 So that's gone from this point on.

00:26:30.000 You can't do that.

00:26:30.000 Both hands.

00:26:31.000 Fuck.

00:26:32.000 It's super unrealistic.

00:26:33.000 Yep, and then they're also putting more emphasis on 10-8 rounds.

00:26:37.000 You're going to see more frequently 10-8 rounds now.

00:26:39.000 You know, it's like, what if they decided to not...

00:26:41.000 Fucking finally.

00:26:42.000 That's way better.

00:26:43.000 The 12-6 elbows, though, is the one thing I went through the list.

00:26:47.000 I'm like, how the fuck did they not address that?

00:26:49.000 But they did allow this new rule.

00:26:51.000 The hands on the mat rule, I think, is going to be more of a factor than even the 12-6 elbow rule.

00:26:58.000 I think it's very smart that they did it because I think you can still protect yourself in those positions.

00:27:04.000 You're talking about someone who's trying to make their way back up to their feet, ideally to strike or to grapple again.

00:27:10.000 It's a transitionary period.

00:27:12.000 So to say this guy can't kick you in a transitionary moving period, it's stupid.

00:27:16.000 It's very stupid.

00:27:16.000 Yeah.

00:27:17.000 No, they also changed open hand policy.

00:27:19.000 You know John Jones and Travis Brown?

00:27:22.000 They're going to warn you and they're going to take a point.

00:27:24.000 If you're fighting with open hands, you're going to have some issues.

00:27:27.000 That's smart.

00:27:27.000 I think they should change the gloves.

00:27:29.000 I really do.

00:27:30.000 I think they should go back to Pride.

00:27:31.000 I think they can go back to Pride gloves.

00:27:33.000 I don't think it's going to be...

00:27:34.000 I think if you look at the amount of eye pokes in Pride versus the amount of eye pokes in the UFC, I don't think you can compare it to them.

00:27:41.000 That's because those guys are so juiced up even if you hit their eyes.

00:27:43.000 They didn't give a fuck.

00:27:45.000 There's like sharks.

00:27:46.000 You shut their eyes like, I don't care.

00:27:49.000 You know what other rule I would like changed as well, and this sounds brutal, but when you have someone's back, you should be able to elbow them in the back of the fucking head.

00:27:56.000 Why can't you?

00:27:57.000 You can elbow them in the front of the head.

00:27:59.000 That's so intense.

00:28:00.000 You can elbow them in the front of the head.

00:28:02.000 The back of the head's too...

00:28:03.000 No, no, no, it's too...

00:28:04.000 People tap quick.

00:28:05.000 You know, back in the day when that shit was legal, you didn't even have to have a good rear naked choke.

00:28:09.000 You get on their back.

00:28:10.000 You throw a couple of these and dudes just fucking...

00:28:12.000 No, I'm a weird.

00:28:13.000 They're tapping quick.

00:28:14.000 Different game now, my man.

00:28:15.000 You can't have that.

00:28:17.000 Back of the head?

00:28:18.000 It's a brutal sport.

00:28:19.000 You can head kick someone with your shin in the front of the eyes.

00:28:23.000 In the eyes.

00:28:23.000 That's fine.

00:28:24.000 Kick them in the eyes, but you can't kick them in the back of the head.

00:28:26.000 No, but you can kick them in the back of the head.

00:28:28.000 That's where it's weird.

00:28:30.000 When you're fighting, you're standing up.

00:28:32.000 If you throw a head kick and you hit a guy in the back of the head and he goes to sleep, you don't get penalized at all.

00:28:37.000 You won by knockout every single time.

00:28:39.000 There you go.

00:28:39.000 It's a brutal sport.

00:28:40.000 Guys, almost always, when they throw high kicks, you'll see, especially if it goes over the left shoulder, say if you're both standing orthodox, and you throw a right high kick and it goes over the left shoulder, the first place it's hitting is the back of your head a lot of the time.

00:28:53.000 It wraps around, too.

00:28:54.000 Imagine what everyone's records would look like in the history of MMA if that was never taken out.

00:29:01.000 There would have been a lot of wins and losses switched up.

00:29:05.000 Oh, yeah.

00:29:06.000 People forget that in the beginning when you'd get the back, you didn't even need a rear naked choke.

00:29:11.000 You just ride the dude and you fuck him up and they tap really quick.

00:29:14.000 I'd rather see knees to a down opponent than kicks.

00:29:16.000 I don't see what's the big deal with that.

00:29:18.000 Was it Ben Spiker versus Henzo Gracie?

00:29:21.000 Is that who it was?

00:29:22.000 It was a judo guy?

00:29:23.000 I remember John Lewis did it to somebody and the guy tapped so quick.

00:29:27.000 As soon as he took it, John Lewis went, bop!

00:29:29.000 The guy tapped and was fucking over.

00:29:31.000 The fight was done.

00:29:32.000 Back of the head's tough, Eddie, with the elbows, man.

00:29:34.000 I don't know.

00:29:35.000 But isn't it really effective?

00:29:37.000 Can you just explain how people are getting kicked in the back of the head and no one's complaining about that?

00:29:41.000 It's because you can't control it.

00:29:42.000 If you're kicking a guy, if you throw a head kick, And it goes over the shoulder and lands with the instep.

00:29:47.000 It's almost always hit in the back of the head.

00:29:49.000 I agree, but same thing if you're throwing a huge right hand, the guy goes to slip in the back of the head.

00:29:53.000 But there's no difference.

00:29:54.000 You can't control that.

00:29:55.000 You can't control if a guy has...

00:29:57.000 It doesn't matter if it's on purpose or on access.

00:29:59.000 It does, though.

00:30:00.000 It's happening.

00:30:00.000 We just saw a guy get head kicked.

00:30:02.000 It's happening.

00:30:02.000 It was just exactly what we were looking at.

00:30:04.000 Someone did a cartwheel kick and kicked the back of someone's head.

00:30:07.000 Yeah.

00:30:08.000 Yair did.

00:30:08.000 Yair threw a cartwheel kick.

00:30:10.000 And it's not intentional.

00:30:11.000 But that back of the head gets hit all the time with kicks.

00:30:14.000 Yeah.

00:30:14.000 Gets hit with wheel kicks, too.

00:30:16.000 A lot.

00:30:16.000 All the time.

00:30:18.000 What do you think hits with a harder impact?

00:30:23.000 One of those kicks that you're talking about?

00:30:24.000 Or when you're riding on someone's back and you're throwing an elbow?

00:30:27.000 Those aren't nearly as hard as the head kicks.

00:30:29.000 They're not nearly as hard.

00:30:31.000 The head kicks are way harder.

00:30:31.000 But you're stationary and you're really stuck.

00:30:34.000 The dudes are going to go like this now.

00:30:35.000 Dudes are going to go like this.

00:30:36.000 They should shell up and they've got to realize they can't just sit in that position and defend the choke.

00:30:42.000 Guys are punching away anyways.

00:30:45.000 You look at Kane, Travis Brown.

00:30:48.000 Kane just punches.

00:30:49.000 They're gonna stop the fight when they get back there.

00:30:51.000 Guys really aren't going for the choke unless they're jiu-jitsu based.

00:30:54.000 They're really just raining down punches and they stop the fight.

00:30:56.000 There's a big fucking difference between punching someone in the back of the head on the back and then elbowing.

00:31:01.000 Yeah, because Elvin, you're gonna have someone's fucking career or smash their skull.

00:31:04.000 They're just gonna tap real quick.

00:31:05.000 Unless you're Rumble Johnson.

00:31:07.000 Rumble Johnson put Ryan Bader to sleep.

00:31:11.000 When he had his back in that same way, you know?

00:31:14.000 I mean, that guy hits so goddamn hard.

00:31:16.000 So does Shane Turlin.

00:31:17.000 Eddie, in a lot of ways, I agree with you.

00:31:21.000 I mean, we should really consider it.

00:31:22.000 It is a very effective technique.

00:31:24.000 The real question is, like, how dangerous is it?

00:31:27.000 Why is it more dangerous?

00:31:28.000 I guess it's because the brainstem is there.

00:31:31.000 Correct.

00:31:31.000 There's not as much protection and bone back there.

00:31:33.000 The brainstem.

00:31:34.000 Yes.

00:31:35.000 But, well, it seems that that is an area that's vulnerable, much like your eyeballs, much like your temple.

00:31:44.000 It's like these are vulnerable areas.

00:31:46.000 And it's real weird to me that we take, like, even if it's the most vulnerable one, why are we taking that spot and not really taking it out of the game either?

00:31:56.000 Like, you can still hit guys there with head kicks, and you...

00:31:59.000 Then why not just kick guys in the dick?

00:32:01.000 If you want to end the fight, just forget the cup.

00:32:03.000 Let's just start kicking the dick.

00:32:04.000 Let's make it a real fight.

00:32:05.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:32:06.000 That's where I draw the line.

00:32:07.000 Where do you stop?

00:32:07.000 I draw the line.

00:32:08.000 No, right there.

00:32:08.000 You stop at the dick.

00:32:09.000 Why?

00:32:10.000 Listen, man.

00:32:10.000 That's a real good question.

00:32:11.000 Why?

00:32:11.000 It is a good question.

00:32:12.000 Because without a dick...

00:32:14.000 Listen, it's a good question.

00:32:15.000 Because honestly, if you look at the early UFCs, there was a lot of dick fucking kicking.

00:32:21.000 Yes!

00:32:22.000 Remember Joe Son?

00:32:23.000 Do you remember Keith Hackney and Joe Son?

00:32:25.000 Fuck yes!

00:32:26.000 Keith Hackney's in side control dropping bombs on Joe Son's dick bombs.

00:32:31.000 Dick bombs, son.

00:32:32.000 And I'll go you one better than that.

00:32:35.000 Back of the head is different than your dick.

00:32:37.000 That's a big difference.

00:32:38.000 You can't fuck someone with the back of your head.

00:32:40.000 I'll go you the most fucked up one ever.

00:32:42.000 Big Daddy Goodridge.

00:32:44.000 And the Pedro.

00:32:45.000 Do you know this one?

00:32:46.000 I do.

00:32:47.000 Big Daddy Goodridge reached into that dude's shorts and crushed his dick and balls.

00:32:52.000 The Pedro.

00:32:52.000 We talked about it on the podcast before.

00:32:54.000 Crushed it.

00:32:54.000 It's the Pedro.

00:32:55.000 Like Play-Doh.

00:32:56.000 That fat dick like Play-Doh.

00:32:59.000 He turned his nut sack into peanut butter.

00:33:04.000 That's what he said.

00:33:05.000 So that's unacceptable, but back of the head's all good?

00:33:08.000 That is so awful.

00:33:10.000 How do you not understand the difference between your Johnson and the back of your head?

00:33:15.000 I'd rather get kicked in the fucking Johnson in the back of my brain.

00:33:19.000 Oh, I don't know about that.

00:33:23.000 That could ruin your dick forever.

00:33:25.000 You dick a full-blown kick from Mark Hunt or somebody.

00:33:30.000 I'd let him kick my head.

00:33:34.000 Oh my god.

00:33:35.000 I don't know.

00:33:35.000 Pick your poison.

00:33:36.000 Both aren't good.

00:33:37.000 Yeah, but if he kicks you in the head, your dick might never work again.

00:33:40.000 Or you won't remember.

00:33:42.000 Yeah, you won't even know it again.

00:33:43.000 You would choose the dick over the back of the head?

00:33:46.000 100%.

00:33:46.000 Wow.

00:33:48.000 Wow.

00:33:49.000 That's strong.

00:33:50.000 We need to take a poll.

00:33:51.000 That's strong.

00:33:51.000 Dick or the back of the head?

00:33:52.000 What part cunt kicks you in the back of the head?

00:33:54.000 You're not going to remember doing shit.

00:33:56.000 That's true.

00:33:56.000 At least you could...

00:33:57.000 And the potential he can die.

00:33:59.000 No one's going to die from being kicked in the dick.

00:34:01.000 It depends on where is he kicking you in the dick.

00:34:03.000 Yeah, is he on the trunk?

00:34:04.000 What if he kicks you across the...

00:34:06.000 If your dick is riding high and he kicks you the shin across the top, Bring it.

00:34:13.000 I say bring it.

00:34:14.000 You know, you might be able to deal with that.

00:34:15.000 It's just going to smash your dick down a little bit and then let it go.

00:34:18.000 You might need surgery on it.

00:34:20.000 You hit the trunk.

00:34:20.000 I'm all good, Doug.

00:34:23.000 You got a strong dick, dude.

00:34:25.000 Yeah, I got a power dick.

00:34:27.000 I never work up in football.

00:34:28.000 I get fucking cleated all the time.

00:34:30.000 My dick looks like the front of a great white shark nose.

00:34:33.000 Just battle wounds.

00:34:35.000 Just a shark nose.

00:34:42.000 Oh, that's so funny.

00:34:43.000 Look at that shit!

00:34:46.000 Jamie's got it up there.

00:34:47.000 Oh, play it again.

00:34:47.000 I'm sorry.

00:34:48.000 That's what I want!

00:34:49.000 This is Keith Hackney.

00:34:51.000 Meanwhile, he could have gone for the Von Flu choke, Eddie Bravo.

00:34:54.000 He just said, fuck the Von Flu choke.

00:34:56.000 The Von Flu is there, son.

00:34:58.000 The Von Flu is there.

00:34:59.000 You don't give a fuck about the Von Flu when you're punching the man's dick off.

00:35:03.000 I know.

00:35:03.000 It's amazing how many guys still hold on to the headlock when they get taken down.

00:35:07.000 Unbelievable.

00:35:08.000 They're in side control and they're still clamped down on the headlock.

00:35:11.000 Super amateur.

00:35:11.000 Super amateur when I see that.

00:35:12.000 Drives me fucking nuts.

00:35:14.000 Last time I saw it get used, though, was OSP. Against Cody Donovan.

00:35:20.000 He did it against...

00:35:21.000 And he also did...

00:35:21.000 They...

00:35:22.000 I think...

00:35:23.000 Oh, no.

00:35:23.000 He took Cody down.

00:35:24.000 He was looking for...

00:35:25.000 Yeah, he did do it against Nikita.

00:35:27.000 Yeah, he did it to Nikita.

00:35:28.000 A lot of power, too.

00:35:29.000 Fuck, yeah.

00:35:31.000 That fucking Krilov.

00:35:32.000 Holy shit.

00:35:33.000 Did you see him against Ed Herman?

00:35:35.000 That head kick?

00:35:36.000 Not just the head kick.

00:35:37.000 It was everything.

00:35:38.000 He kept kicking his body, kneeing his body, and he just marched forward.

00:35:42.000 He's looking good.

00:35:43.000 Remember, he was a heavyweight.

00:35:45.000 He started off at a heavyweight.

00:35:45.000 Dude, that guy's 23. He's like 23, 24. Might be 24. He's trouble.

00:35:50.000 He's super young and fucking real talented.

00:35:53.000 Well, fuck middleweight.

00:35:54.000 He's middleweight.

00:35:55.000 He's middleweight.

00:35:56.000 What do you mean?

00:35:57.000 Didn't he fight at middleweight?

00:35:58.000 No, no.

00:35:58.000 Light heavyweight.

00:35:59.000 Yeah, he's light heavyweight.

00:36:00.000 He's a big boy.

00:36:00.000 When did Ed Herman go to light heavyweight?

00:36:02.000 He went recently.

00:36:02.000 This is his second fight at light heavyweight.

00:36:04.000 Is it really?

00:36:04.000 Yeah.

00:36:04.000 God, I feel like it was middleweight.

00:36:06.000 He won by knockout.

00:36:07.000 No, Ed Herman's definitely light heavyweight now.

00:36:09.000 He won by knockout in his last fight before this Krylov fight.

00:36:16.000 Krilov just, man, he's something.

00:36:19.000 He's hit his stride for sure.

00:36:20.000 His goddamn karate is so good.

00:36:22.000 He's got that, like, Kilkishin karate style.

00:36:27.000 That's right, he knocked out Tim Bosch.

00:36:29.000 That's right.

00:36:29.000 That was that light heavyweight.

00:36:32.000 This Krilov guy, man, he's something.

00:36:35.000 Yeah, it's going to be cool to see.

00:36:36.000 And they need that young blood there, too.

00:36:38.000 Yep.

00:36:39.000 It's great, man.

00:36:40.000 How about fucking Woodley?

00:36:42.000 Dude.

00:36:43.000 You want to talk about a smart business decision, not fighting, sitting out for that title shot and it paid off.

00:36:49.000 Hey, can you explain to me the UFC deal?

00:36:53.000 The selling of the UFC and how that works really?

00:36:57.000 I know Dana's still on board, right?

00:36:59.000 He's still part owner?

00:37:00.000 I honestly have not even asked a single person what the deal is.

00:37:05.000 Oh, really?

00:37:06.000 Yeah.

00:37:06.000 Isn't it public, though?

00:37:07.000 Yes.

00:37:08.000 I know they're selling it.

00:37:11.000 This is what I know.

00:37:12.000 They're selling it, and Dana stays on.

00:37:14.000 Correct.

00:37:14.000 But I don't know what kind of deal he has.

00:37:16.000 He's sold.

00:37:18.000 He's still the president, and the Titas are no longer involved in it.

00:37:22.000 At all.

00:37:22.000 There's different guys involved.

00:37:23.000 There's a bunch of people involved now.

00:37:25.000 But nothing changes, really.

00:37:26.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:37:27.000 Dana's still on board as the president.

00:37:30.000 He has the power to make all the decisions.

00:37:32.000 I don't know.

00:37:33.000 Not as much power?

00:37:34.000 I don't know.

00:37:34.000 I don't know those details.

00:37:36.000 I don't, you know, I don't know how they did it before.

00:37:38.000 Lorenzo and Frank are out.

00:37:39.000 They're done.

00:37:40.000 Wow.

00:37:41.000 They went, cha-ching!

00:37:43.000 Four billion.

00:37:44.000 Give us our fucking million.

00:37:46.000 Four billion?

00:37:47.000 Give us our billions.

00:37:48.000 We the fuck out.

00:37:49.000 Who the fuck bought it?

00:37:50.000 That agency in Hollywood?

00:37:52.000 WME. And some other partners.

00:37:54.000 I don't know how that works, what they call it.

00:37:56.000 If it's a new organization that's bought the UFC, I don't know how it works.

00:38:00.000 If they just came together and formed a new...

00:38:02.000 I don't know how that works.

00:38:04.000 So there's no more Zufa in the beginning.

00:38:06.000 No more Zufa.

00:38:07.000 No more Zufa.

00:38:07.000 That's gone.

00:38:08.000 Wow.

00:38:08.000 Just UFC. The same company bought the rodeo, too.

00:38:12.000 And you know what, man?

00:38:12.000 We, as fans that are sitting here watching the fights right now, we owe the Fertittas everything.

00:38:19.000 Fuck yeah.

00:38:19.000 If they didn't have the balls and the money and the risk-taking acumen, they didn't know when to stay in and when to bail and how they could turn this thing around.

00:38:30.000 They're brilliant.

00:38:31.000 Dude!

00:38:32.000 They deserve everything.

00:38:33.000 They are what Eddie and I used to always dream of.

00:38:35.000 Eddie and I, when we were fans back in the old days, when nobody...

00:38:40.000 The dark days.

00:38:40.000 You couldn't get it.

00:38:41.000 You couldn't even get it on cable.

00:38:43.000 It was banned from cable.

00:38:43.000 You had to get DirecTV.

00:38:45.000 I had DirecTV specifically so I could get the UFC. You needed two Scrooge McDucks to go, yeah, we'll see what we can do with this thing.

00:38:51.000 Dude, those guys, they came in at the perfect time.

00:38:55.000 It was dead in the water.

00:38:57.000 And through all their risk-taking and all their just smart business decisions, smart promotional decisions...

00:39:07.000 They're brilliant, man.

00:39:08.000 And then putting together the ultimate fighter.

00:39:09.000 It's amazing.

00:39:09.000 You know what they're going to do?

00:39:11.000 You know what I think they're going to do?

00:39:13.000 Their passion is football.

00:39:15.000 They're going to bring the Raiders to Vegas.

00:39:17.000 They might.

00:39:17.000 That's what I think they're going to do.

00:39:18.000 Is that what they're trying to do?

00:39:20.000 You must have heard that.

00:39:21.000 You can't just make that shit up.

00:39:23.000 Might be.

00:39:23.000 They might build a gold spaceship and just fly all over Vegas.

00:39:27.000 Or they might build a gold spaceship.

00:39:49.000 They're still gonna get killer seats at the UFC. Yeah, they don't give a fuck about seats.

00:39:56.000 Yeah, they can sit right next to me.

00:39:57.000 Nothing's really going to change with their life.

00:40:00.000 No.

00:40:00.000 They can go backstage anytime.

00:40:01.000 They can just walk and just be like they are.

00:40:03.000 They could buy all of us in here except for Rogan.

00:40:05.000 They could buy all of us.

00:40:06.000 Those guys are beautiful.

00:40:08.000 We owe them.

00:40:09.000 We owe Frank and we owe Lorenzo.

00:40:11.000 Their passion's football though.

00:40:11.000 We owe them big time.

00:40:12.000 Especially Lorenzo.

00:40:14.000 So that's what I think.

00:40:14.000 He loves football.

00:40:15.000 He loves football.

00:40:15.000 And their son's a fucking stud at Notre Dame.

00:40:19.000 He's passionate about MMA too.

00:40:20.000 But he knows that MMA's...

00:40:22.000 Their work is done as far as getting it mainstream.

00:40:26.000 It's on Fox.

00:40:26.000 Yeah.

00:40:27.000 It's on television all the time.

00:40:29.000 It is mainstream.

00:40:30.000 It's a mainstream, crazy, super popular sport.

00:40:33.000 So, cash out!

00:40:36.000 No, you don't get to their level without...

00:40:38.000 Yeah, they're like, look, we got this.

00:40:39.000 We're good.

00:40:40.000 We're good.

00:40:41.000 We're good.

00:40:41.000 I'm giving you guys a fucking killer business.

00:40:43.000 Give me the cash, and I'm just going to watch it and enjoy it from the outside.

00:40:46.000 Fucking see ya.

00:40:46.000 Yeah, I'm going to go fucking...

00:40:47.000 From the exact same seat.

00:40:48.000 Nothing changes.

00:40:49.000 He can enjoy it.

00:40:50.000 Dana, you good?

00:40:52.000 You stay here.

00:40:53.000 We're the fuck out.

00:40:54.000 You good?

00:40:54.000 See ya.

00:40:55.000 Give us our billions.

00:40:56.000 He can probably enjoy it more.

00:40:58.000 You know?

00:40:58.000 Because you can just relax and enjoy the fights.

00:41:00.000 It's great that Dana stayed.

00:41:01.000 That's great.

00:41:02.000 I mean, it's...

00:41:03.000 Yeah.

00:41:04.000 Made a big difference.

00:41:05.000 Look at this position.

00:41:05.000 And it's great that you stayed, too.

00:41:07.000 You know what, man?

00:41:07.000 I came real close to not.

00:41:09.000 Real close to not.

00:41:09.000 Did you really?

00:41:10.000 Oh, fuck yeah.

00:41:10.000 I know you were telling me that.

00:41:11.000 I never bought it, John.

00:41:12.000 Yeah, I was real close.

00:41:13.000 Really?

00:41:14.000 Yeah, I had to make sure that I was thinking about it correctly.

00:41:18.000 I really had to spend time thinking about what I was doing.

00:41:22.000 I definitely knew that I had to reduce the schedule.

00:41:24.000 There was no way I was going to go back to doing it as many times as I was doing it before.

00:41:30.000 I don't think it's good for you, man.

00:41:31.000 I don't think flying that much is good for you.

00:41:33.000 Fuck no.

00:41:34.000 It's just not.

00:41:35.000 Nothing.

00:41:35.000 No, we're not made to be in the air and breathing that recycled air and shit in all the time.

00:41:38.000 People that are flying every week, like road guys, like comics too, they have this look about them.

00:41:44.000 They look like shit.

00:41:45.000 They look weary.

00:41:46.000 Yeah.

00:41:46.000 I just don't think it's good for you.

00:41:48.000 And by the way, man, I read about radiation in space.

00:41:52.000 I'm pretty sure.

00:41:53.000 I'm pretty sure.

00:41:53.000 I'm an expert.

00:41:54.000 I guess it is radiation though, right?

00:41:56.000 When you go up in space.

00:41:57.000 I think it's probably worse.

00:41:58.000 I hate flying.

00:41:59.000 I think I read that it's more radiation than you get when you get an x-ray.

00:42:03.000 Every time you get in a plane.

00:42:04.000 Really?

00:42:05.000 Yeah.

00:42:05.000 Let's see if that's true.

00:42:06.000 I might have made that up.

00:42:06.000 And then you're on the plane for what?

00:42:08.000 12 hours?

00:42:09.000 14 hours sometimes?

00:42:10.000 I just went to Italy.

00:42:11.000 That was at least 12 hours.

00:42:12.000 You can keep that shit.

00:42:13.000 I don't fly along in 5 hours.

00:42:15.000 5 hours.

00:42:16.000 But Italy's amazing.

00:42:18.000 It's worth getting a little radiated.

00:42:19.000 Nah.

00:42:21.000 You don't think so?

00:42:22.000 Nah, I won't do it.

00:42:23.000 Real?

00:42:23.000 No.

00:42:24.000 Do you go through...

00:42:25.000 We have great Italian food in LA. Do you opt out on the security line?

00:42:28.000 What?

00:42:29.000 Do you opt out on the security line?

00:42:31.000 I got the fast pass, son.

00:42:34.000 What he's saying is opting out of the scanner.

00:42:37.000 Hell no, man.

00:42:39.000 Fucking U.S. of A. They don't let you opt out.

00:42:42.000 Wait a minute.

00:42:42.000 Yeah, you can opt out.

00:42:43.000 You don't have to go through that scan.

00:42:44.000 Oh, but then they pat you down and shit and go through your luggage.

00:42:46.000 They feel your dick.

00:42:48.000 Dude, it's the craziest thing how they're allowed to touch your dick as long as it's with the back of the hand they tell you.

00:42:53.000 Yeah, because where are you going to hide shit?

00:42:54.000 With the back of my hand, that's where I'm going to hit your sensitive areas.

00:42:57.000 Is that cool?

00:42:58.000 I don't mind.

00:42:58.000 As long as it's the back of the hand.

00:43:00.000 Fuck yeah.

00:43:01.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:43:01.000 I wonder what the reasoning is there.

00:43:03.000 Like there's less nerves on the back of your hand?

00:43:05.000 Yeah, it doesn't feel good.

00:43:06.000 It's not as lame.

00:43:07.000 It's not dirty.

00:43:08.000 Yeah, it's not as gross.

00:43:09.000 It's not as dirty.

00:43:10.000 Exactly.

00:43:11.000 It's the back of my head.

00:43:12.000 If I did this, then oh, now I'm molesting it.

00:43:14.000 Well, there you go.

00:43:15.000 Risk on a flight is small.

00:43:16.000 It says cosmic rays sound scary, but radiation risk on a flight is small.

00:43:21.000 See if that was right about you get as much as you get when you get x-rayed.

00:43:24.000 See if that's correct.

00:43:26.000 That might be total bullshit.

00:43:28.000 You never know what the fuck.

00:43:29.000 It says pilots in the flight attendants get twice the incidence of melanoma compared to the general population, which could be part of where that comes from.

00:43:37.000 Oh, well, there you go.

00:43:39.000 Yeah, no shit, sure.

00:43:40.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:43:41.000 Fuck all that, man.

00:43:41.000 Pilots look like shit, too.

00:43:43.000 You ever seen a handsome pilot?

00:43:44.000 They all look like, fuck.

00:43:46.000 You're not supposed to be up that high.

00:43:48.000 Hell no, all the time.

00:43:49.000 Up that high and breathing recycled air and other people's farts.

00:43:51.000 And just fucking hanging with a guy next to you for hours.

00:43:54.000 God damn it.

00:43:55.000 God damn it.

00:43:55.000 Fuck that job.

00:43:57.000 Fuck you.

00:44:00.000 We haven't said a word about this fight.

00:44:02.000 I haven't seen one fucking...

00:44:04.000 We haven't seen each other recently.

00:44:07.000 We haven't, man.

00:44:08.000 We get together.

00:44:09.000 We have so much to talk about.

00:44:10.000 I know.

00:44:10.000 It's a good fight so far, though.

00:44:11.000 The guy's got his back.

00:44:12.000 Now, Eddie Bravo, case in point.

00:44:14.000 Elbows dropping, right?

00:44:15.000 You get that back mount, you immediately go right here.

00:44:17.000 It's over.

00:44:17.000 The fight can be just over.

00:44:18.000 Can't have that shit on Fox, son.

00:44:20.000 Boom, boom, boom.

00:44:21.000 Save the back of the head.

00:44:22.000 But wouldn't it be a position where you would have to protect that, like, really quick?

00:44:26.000 Okay, no cup.

00:44:27.000 How about you just fucking heel kick him in the nuts?

00:44:30.000 No, but how come, seriously, how come it's okay to heel kick a guy in the temple?

00:44:34.000 How come it's able to elbow a guy?

00:44:36.000 I agree.

00:44:36.000 A guy could have his head sideways, and you could smash down the point of your elbow into his temple, and that's a legal strike.

00:44:42.000 Because I think with the brainstem, you don't have as much protection back here.

00:44:46.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:44:47.000 Right, so it's like the connection.

00:44:49.000 Yes.

00:44:50.000 The critical connection to the brain?

00:44:51.000 Yes.

00:44:52.000 The fight would be over here.

00:44:53.000 Yeah.

00:44:53.000 I wonder, like, what...

00:44:56.000 I mean, obviously it's dangerous to get hit anywhere in the head.

00:44:58.000 But I wonder, like, how much more dangerous it is.

00:45:01.000 I bet you it's significant.

00:45:02.000 But it's already happening.

00:45:03.000 Again, we talked about it with the kicks.

00:45:05.000 You explained it.

00:45:06.000 It's already happening all the time.

00:45:08.000 You're not promoting it.

00:45:10.000 No one's trying to...

00:45:11.000 No one's promoting it, but we're not changing the result of a fight if somebody wheel kicks a guy and clips the back of his head.

00:45:17.000 Because that shit happens all the time.

00:45:19.000 Yeah.

00:45:20.000 If it was that serious, they should, like, DQ the guy for those head kicks.

00:45:24.000 Yeah.

00:45:24.000 If they do the replay, the instant replay, they go, you know what?

00:45:26.000 You lost.

00:45:27.000 Do you ever see Ernesto Hoost versus Maurice Smith?

00:45:32.000 God, forever ago.

00:45:33.000 Check this.

00:45:34.000 Jamie, pull that up.

00:45:35.000 This is like a classic example of a behind-the-head kick.

00:45:40.000 He's the lover, Nesta Hoos.

00:45:42.000 Me too, and Maurice as well.

00:45:44.000 I love Maurice.

00:45:45.000 He's from Denver, son.

00:45:46.000 Maurice is a bad motherfucker.

00:45:47.000 Better represent.

00:45:48.000 Kicking the fucking face.

00:45:49.000 Maurice is a seriously skillful kickboxer, too.

00:45:53.000 Hell yeah.

00:45:53.000 And look at this.

00:45:54.000 Watch this.

00:45:55.000 Kaboosh!

00:45:57.000 Well, that's right on the back of the neck.

00:45:58.000 Yeah.

00:45:59.000 I mean, absolutely perfectly placed.

00:46:01.000 He should have been DQ. Look at this exchange.

00:46:03.000 Look how good Hust is.

00:46:04.000 Check this exchange out.

00:46:06.000 In the middle, he blocks the knee.

00:46:09.000 The kind of hip dexterity.

00:46:11.000 I mean, he's almost doing a full split.

00:46:13.000 Well, look how close they are.

00:46:14.000 And he comes down.

00:46:14.000 Yeah, look at this.

00:46:16.000 But watch how he does it.

00:46:17.000 Look at the distance, though.

00:46:18.000 That's what's nuts.

00:46:18.000 Maurice throws his knee.

00:46:19.000 And check this.

00:46:22.000 BOOM! I mean, that is just artwork over the top of the shoulder.

00:46:27.000 That's the correct reaction.

00:46:28.000 Your opponent throws a knee, you know that you got time.

00:46:31.000 There's no way he's gonna get that knee back.

00:46:33.000 He's just timing the movement.

00:46:35.000 And a guy like Anderson, he would time when you would put your feet down, when you would...

00:46:41.000 So he knows that if you're doing this, you're going here, and then maybe you have a pattern.

00:46:46.000 Maybe you have something to do afterwards.

00:46:48.000 Maybe you stay in the pocket and grab.

00:46:49.000 Maybe you back up.

00:46:51.000 But he just timed it perfect.

00:46:52.000 As soon as that knee came down, he had a feeling Maurice would be there.

00:46:55.000 That's why he's thrown that kick up 10,000 times, too.

00:46:58.000 Oh, yeah.

00:46:58.000 And the way he brought it around behind his shoulder.

00:47:01.000 Oh, my God.

00:47:01.000 But the crazy thing there is from that distance, it's fucking nuts.

00:47:05.000 Yo, dude, they were like uppercut distance.

00:47:07.000 Yes, that's nuts.

00:47:08.000 And he kicked them in the back of the head.

00:47:09.000 And the flexibility of the hips is what you really have to have because you've got to have that ability to drop down over.

00:47:16.000 Boom!

00:47:16.000 God damn, that was beautiful.

00:47:18.000 That was amazing.

00:47:18.000 Good fucking clip.

00:47:19.000 He's such a beast.

00:47:21.000 Super beast.

00:47:21.000 Ernesto Hoos was so technical, man.

00:47:23.000 I still love watching him.

00:47:24.000 Remember him and Bob Sapp?

00:47:25.000 Fuck yeah.

00:47:26.000 Remember that?

00:47:27.000 I can't Bob Sapp beat him twice.

00:47:28.000 I can't believe it.

00:47:29.000 Well, because he fucked up his shoulder on one and then Bob just kept kicking at it.

00:47:32.000 Oh, really?

00:47:32.000 Remember that?

00:47:33.000 Yeah, he fucked up his shoulder bad and then Bob realized it and kept kicking it.

00:47:36.000 Oh, look at this.

00:47:37.000 He's going for Darce.

00:47:39.000 Look at this.

00:47:40.000 I'm still waiting for the first Japanese necktie.

00:47:42.000 Look at that.

00:47:42.000 Right there.

00:47:42.000 Boom.

00:47:43.000 Right there, right?

00:47:44.000 Drop down to that left shoulder.

00:47:45.000 It would be over right there.

00:47:46.000 It's done.

00:47:46.000 Put your leg over.

00:47:47.000 Look, he might even go for it.

00:47:48.000 So weird.

00:47:48.000 I don't think he knows it.

00:47:50.000 A lot of people don't know it, man.

00:47:51.000 But you know what?

00:47:52.000 He still has...

00:47:53.000 Oh, he's still...

00:47:54.000 Oh, damn.

00:47:55.000 It's pretty good dars.

00:47:56.000 He's short-arming it, so it's...

00:47:58.000 The guy doing good staying flat.

00:48:01.000 Explain that to me?

00:48:02.000 Oh, Bill.

00:48:03.000 He didn't really have a full...

00:48:04.000 It wasn't sunken.

00:48:05.000 It was like this.

00:48:06.000 That's why you're on short arm and neck.

00:48:08.000 The guy had good defense too, staying flat.

00:48:10.000 You see the hand, how deep the hand is?

00:48:12.000 If you're like...

00:48:13.000 The fingers are right here, you could just tell that's not deep enough.

00:48:16.000 You know who I still want to fucking see in the UFC before all this bullshit is out?

00:48:21.000 Let me guess.

00:48:22.000 Take a guess.

00:48:23.000 Hold on.

00:48:24.000 He hasn't fought in the UFC ever?

00:48:26.000 Right.

00:48:26.000 Wrestler.

00:48:27.000 Take a guess.

00:48:27.000 He's a wrestler.

00:48:28.000 Vladimir Klitschko.

00:48:31.000 Jesus Christ.

00:48:32.000 You know who it is.

00:48:33.000 Yeah, I know who it is.

00:48:34.000 Homeboy.

00:48:35.000 Ben Askren.

00:48:36.000 Ben Askren.

00:48:37.000 They might do it now.

00:48:39.000 There's the kid with the wine and a fucking smile.

00:48:43.000 Look at his arms.

00:48:44.000 Jesus Christ.

00:48:46.000 Sinewy.

00:48:47.000 Steel.

00:48:48.000 It's corded flesh.

00:48:50.000 Hardened.

00:48:51.000 The hard man.

00:48:52.000 Do we have a bottle opener and glasses?

00:48:54.000 It's about to get loose now.

00:48:56.000 It's about to get loose.

00:48:57.000 You thought dick talk was too much.

00:48:59.000 Hey, what about Joey Diaz getting his fucking blue belt, right?

00:49:01.000 Isn't that amazing?

00:49:02.000 That's cool, man.

00:49:03.000 Dude.

00:49:03.000 That's so beautiful.

00:49:04.000 Dude.

00:49:04.000 Come on, man.

00:49:05.000 That's amazing.

00:49:06.000 So beautiful.

00:49:07.000 He is so into jiu-jitsu.

00:49:09.000 Loves it.

00:49:09.000 It really did.

00:49:10.000 It is saving his life.

00:49:11.000 He's so into it.

00:49:13.000 He talks about jujitsu every time we talk on the phone.

00:49:15.000 He talks about how we did in class.

00:49:17.000 He's training all the goddamn time.

00:49:19.000 He goes in on Sundays and does jujitsu.

00:49:21.000 He's so into it.

00:49:23.000 And he's incredibly humble about it.

00:49:28.000 Every time he talks about jujitsu, he says, listen, Eddie Bravo, I'm terrible.

00:49:32.000 I'm terrible.

00:49:34.000 But every day I'm getting a little bit better.

00:49:37.000 Just a little bit better.

00:49:38.000 But I'm terrible.

00:49:39.000 I suck.

00:49:40.000 But he's tapping people out.

00:49:42.000 He's getting taps.

00:49:43.000 Of course he is.

00:49:44.000 He's passing the guard.

00:49:44.000 He loves Twister side control.

00:49:46.000 He gets the camora from Twister side control.

00:49:48.000 With Eddie Bravo, that Twister side control.

00:49:52.000 He said that to me once.

00:49:53.000 I wasn't even sure he was being serious about it.

00:49:55.000 Joe Rogan, now I know why you like that Twister side control, dog.

00:49:58.000 Now I know why that's your spot.

00:50:00.000 I can see you camping out there.

00:50:02.000 Right, Joe Rogan?

00:50:03.000 I get my hip on you.

00:50:05.000 I get my hip on you.

00:50:06.000 On the side.

00:50:07.000 I'm turning towards your feet.

00:50:08.000 I got my hands on your hips.

00:50:10.000 Where the fuck are you going?

00:50:11.000 Where the fuck are you going?

00:50:15.000 Oh, man.

00:50:16.000 He is so into jiu-jitsu.

00:50:18.000 I love him.

00:50:19.000 I love it.

00:50:20.000 It's really...

00:50:21.000 It's given him something to work towards, and it's given him an awesome way to do real rigorous exercise.

00:50:29.000 Yeah, and get healthy, man.

00:50:30.000 That's what you want.

00:50:31.000 If that guy's your friend, you want to be healthy.

00:50:32.000 Yeah, well, you also...

00:50:34.000 You can't ever give Joey advice, you know?

00:50:36.000 Joey's a strong man, and he's a proud man, and he's beautiful.

00:50:42.000 This is just...

00:50:43.000 He's the rarest of rare birds.

00:50:44.000 That's what makes him who he is, though.

00:50:46.000 There's certain guys like that, man.

00:50:47.000 You don't want to change that for anything.

00:50:48.000 You can't...

00:50:48.000 You know, I've known...

00:50:49.000 I mean, I've known Joey for a long time.

00:50:52.000 You gotta just let Joey be Joey.

00:50:53.000 But what he is is awesome, you know?

00:50:55.000 Hell yeah.

00:50:55.000 And I just love the fact that he's...

00:50:58.000 He's gotten really into being healthy, really into jiu-jitsu, really into comedy, man.

00:51:03.000 His comedy's killing it.

00:51:04.000 He's traveling all over the country now, doing gigs everywhere.

00:51:07.000 He's selling out everywhere.

00:51:08.000 Joey's selling out like five shows before he even gets into town.

00:51:11.000 He's destroying.

00:51:13.000 Just destroying.

00:51:14.000 His podcast is bigger than ever.

00:51:16.000 Yeah, he's just...

00:51:17.000 I'm so happy for that guy.

00:51:19.000 I'm just so happy I know him.

00:51:21.000 His jujitsu story of how he got into it is the most inspirational jujitsu story ever, man.

00:51:28.000 There needs to be a documentary about him and how he got turned on to jujitsu and following him around, videotaping his training and all that.

00:51:38.000 That's so inspirational, his story.

00:51:41.000 Yeah.

00:51:42.000 If you listen to that story and you don't want to do jujitsu, you need a psychiatric evaluation.

00:51:49.000 This is a good fight, man.

00:51:50.000 We're missing a good fight.

00:51:53.000 Yeah, I agree, man.

00:51:55.000 But, you know, kind of jujitsu has that effect on people.

00:51:59.000 It's a really exciting, fun thing to do.

00:52:04.000 What are you showing me there, buddy?

00:52:05.000 Is that a Japanese necktie?

00:52:08.000 I can't see.

00:52:10.000 Yeah, it looks more like a darse.

00:52:12.000 Let me see it again.

00:52:12.000 Yeah, it looks like a guillotine.

00:52:14.000 You gotta take it from the top.

00:52:16.000 Go back, go back, go back.

00:52:17.000 That's kind of like it.

00:52:19.000 No, no.

00:52:20.000 It's like a guillotine-type darse.

00:52:23.000 Right.

00:52:27.000 The body, what he's doing with his body is he's placing it in the exact same place as you would with a Japanese necktie.

00:52:35.000 It's just his grip is different.

00:52:37.000 Right.

00:52:37.000 So it's like a Japanese necktie with a different grip, but it's similar.

00:52:40.000 It's like a guillotine Japanese necktie.

00:52:42.000 It's in between.

00:52:43.000 And Jamie, for all the people that are listening, what was that fight that we were just watching and were just talking about?

00:52:47.000 Unless I'm retarded and I couldn't tell by that angle or something.

00:52:52.000 Maybe it was a Japanese necktie.

00:52:53.000 Say it one more time, Jamie.

00:52:55.000 I'll just pull it up.

00:52:56.000 You can read them.

00:52:56.000 We'll see it one more time anyway.

00:52:58.000 It looks like a Japanese necktie to me.

00:52:59.000 I mean, if you look at the placement of his left elbow, yeah.

00:53:03.000 His left shoulder, though, is way down.

00:53:05.000 See how far down his left shoulder is?

00:53:07.000 And the head's perfect.

00:53:08.000 The head's perfectly locked in.

00:53:10.000 Go back.

00:53:11.000 Go back.

00:53:11.000 Here it is again.

00:53:12.000 You're saying this is a Japanese necktie?

00:53:14.000 It is.

00:53:14.000 Wait a minute.

00:53:15.000 No.

00:53:16.000 No.

00:53:16.000 It's close.

00:53:17.000 It's like in between.

00:53:18.000 In between a guillotine and a Japanese necktie.

00:53:20.000 Yeah, he might have his own version of it.

00:53:21.000 His grip doesn't look like Japanese.

00:53:23.000 No, it's not quite the same, but it's still...

00:53:26.000 The fact that you can see his hands in the front, the hands gotta stay in the back of the head.

00:53:30.000 Yeah, but isn't it interesting though that there's like a lot of different ways to grip the guillotine, right?

00:53:35.000 There's a lot of different ways to hold your hands, but they're all considered guillotines.

00:53:39.000 But this choke, which is like pretty similar, like the head is trapped, it's twisted, left shoulder's down, hands are coming up like this, the neck is getting wrenched and cranked.

00:53:48.000 It's getting wrenched and cranked in both positions, right?

00:53:54.000 Japanese necktie has arm evolved because the guy's got that underhook on you.

00:53:58.000 Say if I'm getting it, and he's got his underhook on the left side, my arm is overhooking his arm, and then that's going behind his head, and that's where I'm clamping down.

00:54:06.000 I clamped down with a scissors grip, but that guy looked like he had something like this.

00:54:11.000 It was almost like a gable grip, right?

00:54:14.000 I don't know.

00:54:14.000 I could be wrong, but that didn't look like a Japanese necktie, but I could be wrong.

00:54:18.000 It was hard to tell.

00:54:19.000 With the grip, that looked like an arm in guillotine.

00:54:22.000 Well, whatever it was, that guy's neck was getting cranked, too.

00:54:25.000 Super cranked.

00:54:25.000 It wasn't just the choke.

00:54:28.000 It was a neck crank.

00:54:29.000 Real bad, trapped in the chest.

00:54:31.000 Let me see it one more time.

00:54:32.000 Let me see it one more time.

00:54:33.000 It's super similar.

00:54:35.000 Because look at his right elbow.

00:54:36.000 If he's doing a Japanese necktie, his right elbow should be T-Rexed here.

00:54:41.000 But it looked like he was like that.

00:54:42.000 Yeah, maybe he just has a wide open way of doing it.

00:54:46.000 Can we see it again, Jamie?

00:54:46.000 Maybe it's just not the best way to do it.

00:54:48.000 Come on, motherfucker.

00:54:49.000 Hurry.

00:54:49.000 Jamie.

00:54:50.000 The fuck, dude?

00:54:51.000 How come you don't want to show it to him?

00:54:52.000 Joe, talk to him.

00:54:53.000 Come on, Jamie.

00:54:53.000 Don't do this.

00:54:54.000 He's a good guy.

00:54:55.000 Don't do this, man.

00:54:55.000 It's like he gets passionate about his work.

00:54:57.000 Come on, man.

00:54:58.000 This is important, Jamie.

00:54:59.000 Is Callen stomping on the grapes or something?

00:55:01.000 Callen's coming.

00:55:02.000 Right now he's coming in my sink.

00:55:06.000 He went in there and got blueberries and cheese.

00:55:11.000 You are so strange.

00:55:14.000 We're going to start with a light barbaresco.

00:55:17.000 I'm wrong about that though.

00:55:19.000 The right elbow wouldn't be T-Rex because it couldn't be because you have the overhook.

00:55:22.000 There's no way it could be.

00:55:23.000 Can't be T-Rex because he's got the overhook.

00:55:25.000 So it is a Japanese necktile.

00:55:26.000 Fuck, it's so hard to tell.

00:55:27.000 But he's got the left shoulder down, right?

00:55:29.000 Which is where you wouldn't be necessarily there in a darse.

00:55:32.000 You would want the right shoulder down, right?

00:55:34.000 Correct.

00:55:35.000 So the way he's doing it is totally a Japanese necktie.

00:55:38.000 Yeah, I give you that, Joe.

00:55:39.000 Because the head's trapped the exact same way you trap the head.

00:55:41.000 The neck is cranked in the exact same direction.

00:55:44.000 And also, he's got the leg tied up, which I like.

00:55:47.000 I like how he did it, too.

00:55:48.000 How he tied up the near side leg.

00:55:51.000 It's for sure not a darts because his hips and his right shoulder would be down.

00:55:55.000 I've always wondered.

00:55:56.000 Gentlemen.

00:55:58.000 To fight companions.

00:55:59.000 To fight companions.

00:55:59.000 That actually answered a question that I had.

00:56:02.000 I'm looking at it right now, and I was always like, what's the best leg to tie up?

00:56:05.000 Because I would always tie up whatever leg I could.

00:56:07.000 It doesn't matter.

00:56:08.000 I always said that, but if you look at that, if he ties up the left leg, he doesn't have that, he can't move with that right leg.

00:56:15.000 Excuse me, if he ties up the right leg the way he's got it like there, that other leg's not helping him as much.

00:56:20.000 Correct.

00:56:20.000 But if he ties up the other leg, then he can get that right leg under him and he can use it to manipulate his base more.

00:56:26.000 Even more pressure.

00:56:27.000 His problem here is he immediately should have stomped on dude's right thigh with his left foot.

00:56:35.000 I don't think he would matter there.

00:56:36.000 And that's how you escape.

00:56:37.000 You get your leg out and spin.

00:56:39.000 If you can't get that leg free, you're fucked.

00:56:42.000 I know.

00:56:42.000 Look how he has his legs tied up.

00:56:44.000 He's got to kick his leg free.

00:56:45.000 He's got to kick it free or you're done.

00:56:47.000 That's the first thing you've got to do.

00:56:48.000 The first thing.

00:56:49.000 So he would kick out the right leg.

00:56:51.000 Yeah.

00:56:51.000 Push it away.

00:56:52.000 The leg that's caught, use your free leg.

00:56:54.000 It's just like a leg lock.

00:56:55.000 Someone's attacking that leg, you kick it free.

00:56:57.000 Well, here's a question.

00:56:57.000 Here's a real good question.

00:56:58.000 If you're in a position like that or somewhere similar where you have access to kick the knee, can you kick someone's knee on the ground when you're grappling with it?

00:57:08.000 Yes.

00:57:08.000 And if so, yeah.

00:57:09.000 100%.

00:57:10.000 How come no one's ever done that?

00:57:11.000 No one's, like, attacked the knee.

00:57:13.000 Like, no one's ever been in a position, like, maybe they have side control or something like that, and they drop axe kicks down on someone's knee.

00:57:19.000 Just attack their knee from there.

00:57:21.000 I'd have to see it, but...

00:57:23.000 It feels like you should be able to definitely attack the thighs.

00:57:26.000 You're saying in a grappling tournament?

00:57:27.000 Yeah, like, no, [...

00:57:30.000 You're saying MMA. Like, say if someone has someone in, like...

00:57:32.000 But does he ever see it?

00:57:35.000 No.

00:57:36.000 Maybe it'll fuck up your balance and you'll lose position.

00:57:39.000 I've seen some of it.

00:57:40.000 But in that guy, in that situation, where that guy is getting choked, if he could have kicked at the knee itself, this isn't a good position for it.

00:57:50.000 No, he's not going to do shit there.

00:57:52.000 He's got to kick that leg free.

00:57:53.000 He's got to kick that leg free and get flat on your back.

00:57:57.000 Is there ever a time where you can kick someone's legs when you're holding them down?

00:58:05.000 There's no rule.

00:58:06.000 In Pride, a good combo would be, if you get them out, bop bop bop, stand up, stomp.

00:58:12.000 And then walk away.

00:58:13.000 He did that to Dan Henderson.

00:58:15.000 Bop bop bop on the mountain and you stand up, boom.

00:58:17.000 That's something you'd have to practice.

00:58:18.000 That's a combo.

00:58:19.000 That cheese is a combo.

00:58:21.000 And it's an effective move.

00:58:23.000 It's weird.

00:58:23.000 It's weird what effective moves are legal and what are not legal.

00:58:27.000 One of the most underutilized kicks, in my opinion, are those hicks in those leg curl kicks while you have someone's back.

00:58:36.000 That's legal now.

00:58:37.000 It's legal.

00:58:38.000 It was always legal.

00:58:39.000 No, it wasn't.

00:58:40.000 Why?

00:58:41.000 It was attacks to the kidney.

00:58:42.000 They were considered attacks to the kidney.

00:58:44.000 It's one of the new revisions in this...

00:58:46.000 No, no, I'm not talking about from Full Guard.

00:58:47.000 I'm not talking about that.

00:58:48.000 Oh, you're talking about from Backmount.

00:58:49.000 You have the guy's back.

00:58:50.000 Remember what Hickson was doing to Zulu?

00:58:52.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:58:52.000 Remember those kicks?

00:58:53.000 To the abdomen.

00:58:54.000 To the abdomen.

00:58:56.000 Why aren't people doing that?

00:58:58.000 Who was the last guy that did that?

00:58:59.000 I feel like Cole Miller did that.

00:59:01.000 That should be normal shit.

00:59:02.000 Did Cole Miller do that in a fight?

00:59:04.000 And then the guys defend it and then he comes up and chokes.

00:59:06.000 Exactly!

00:59:07.000 That's how you set up the chokes.

00:59:08.000 Nobody does that.

00:59:10.000 It's true.

00:59:13.000 Well now at least guys can attack when they're on their back, they can kidney kick.

00:59:18.000 And it makes someone want to...

00:59:19.000 In full guard.

00:59:20.000 Yes, in full guard.

00:59:20.000 Oh, beautiful.

00:59:21.000 I'm happy.

00:59:22.000 Hey, they're making progress.

00:59:23.000 That's a very good move.

00:59:24.000 I'm very shocked.

00:59:25.000 So when somebody's in your guard, you can do kidney kicks?

00:59:28.000 You can kidney kick them, yes.

00:59:30.000 Wow.

00:59:30.000 Yeah, that's huge.

00:59:31.000 Gotta protect the kidneys.

00:59:33.000 Well, you're not going to be able to just lay there.

00:59:35.000 It's another offensive option for the grappler.

00:59:38.000 So if you're in a full guard position and someone has good kicks, like say if you get some Anderson Silva type character who has good kicks, he can fuck your back up, man.

00:59:46.000 And when you do get free, you break free, you could be all bunched up and tightened up just from eating those heel kicks to the kidneys.

00:59:52.000 Isn't there danger there that you can actually create, you can cause internal bleeding that'll mess with them later on?

00:59:58.000 Yeah, this is going to be a lot of internal bleeding, son.

01:00:01.000 Yeah.

01:00:01.000 Really?

01:00:01.000 You're in a cage fight.

01:00:02.000 I don't think you're too weird.

01:00:03.000 Yes.

01:00:03.000 Oh, man, though.

01:00:05.000 We've got to stop the kidney injuries.

01:00:06.000 Listen, man, how can you say you can stop kidney injuries, but you won't stop a spinning back kick to the ribs?

01:00:12.000 Yeah, but that's one kick.

01:00:13.000 I feel like it's a constant difference.

01:00:15.000 Listen, man, if someone, like some elite guy, like a Wonderboy, spinning back kicks you in the ribs...

01:00:21.000 Yeah, you're going to be...

01:00:22.000 Jesus Christ, dude.

01:00:23.000 If Overeem kicks you in the ribs...

01:00:25.000 Oh, yeah.

01:00:26.000 Ask Brock how that works.

01:00:27.000 You're going to shit your pants.

01:00:28.000 Dude, Overeem, that left round kick to the ribs that he landed on Brock before he put him away.

01:00:33.000 Fuck you.

01:00:33.000 Fuck all that.

01:00:34.000 Oh my god.

01:00:34.000 Those giant thighs and that enormous ass.

01:00:37.000 I'd rather get kicked in the dick.

01:00:38.000 Whose ass?

01:00:39.000 Overeem.

01:00:40.000 Oh.

01:00:40.000 And Overeem, when he fought Brock, was Overeem, too.

01:00:44.000 That was when he was at his biggest.

01:00:45.000 Did you notice when people are going to take body shots like that, there's a pause?

01:00:49.000 They're like, they go, and then they fall.

01:00:51.000 They say, I'm not sure, but they say that's because your liver gets lifted up, and when it falls back down, somebody told me that, that's why there's that pause.

01:00:58.000 So you watch guys who get hit?

01:01:00.000 Oh my God.

01:01:00.000 So if you guys get watched, if you watch anybody who takes, there's a pause.

01:01:03.000 You know who used to train to hit like that and fall down?

01:01:06.000 Liotta Machida.

01:01:07.000 He used to train as if he got hit in the body and practice just falling down to his back.

01:01:12.000 Whoa.

01:01:12.000 Yeah.

01:01:12.000 First guy I've ever seen do it.

01:01:14.000 Smart.

01:01:14.000 What a samurai.

01:01:14.000 Because one of his buddies, I forget who it was, lost a fight by getting a body shot.

01:01:20.000 And he just kind of crumbled and went to the ground.

01:01:22.000 And Leo was like, no, we do this all the time.

01:01:25.000 And then showed him that he kept doing reps, like getting hit, balling up into guard and bringing the guy down into your guard to give you time.

01:01:33.000 Is he suspended right now?

01:01:36.000 Lieto?

01:01:36.000 Yeah.

01:01:37.000 I'm not sure I think so.

01:01:38.000 I know he just opened up a gym in California.

01:01:40.000 But something happened.

01:01:42.000 Yes.

01:01:43.000 He tested positive for something.

01:01:44.000 Dan Anderson, right?

01:01:45.000 And he tested positive?

01:01:45.000 What was it for?

01:01:48.000 Jamie, see if you can find that out.

01:01:50.000 That fucking card, though.

01:01:51.000 There's your card of the year.

01:01:52.000 As far as number-wise, pay-per-view number-wise.

01:01:54.000 You think the match-ups get better?

01:01:57.000 The cards get better now?

01:01:58.000 Because you get new blood in there.

01:02:00.000 I bet the new owners want to go, let's fucking...

01:02:01.000 What new blood?

01:02:02.000 None of that's new blood, though, right there.

01:02:03.000 What new blood, brother?

01:02:04.000 The power, the new blood.

01:02:06.000 The executive power is all new blood.

01:02:08.000 Oh, you mean the suits?

01:02:10.000 They might say, hey, let's fucking make...

01:02:12.000 Let's come in with some fire and blow up these cards.

01:02:16.000 Let's just get crazy with it.

01:02:19.000 No, I think Joe Silva...

01:02:20.000 Not much you can do.

01:02:20.000 You need a guy who loves fighting and knows fighting.

01:02:23.000 Usually...

01:02:23.000 Those suits don't know fighting.

01:02:25.000 Yeah.

01:02:25.000 Corporate...

01:02:26.000 Big corporations that get involved doesn't necessarily mean...

01:02:28.000 That's why Dana's staying on board.

01:02:30.000 You know, he's a fucking genius with fighting.

01:02:32.000 So is Joe Silva.

01:02:32.000 You can't get rid of those guys and have suits who, you know...

01:02:35.000 You can never...

01:02:36.000 It would never work.

01:02:36.000 You could never have a suit run the company either.

01:02:38.000 You need Dana.

01:02:40.000 Yeah.

01:02:40.000 But they could say, hey, listen, we'd like to see...

01:02:42.000 The company has gotten to a crazy place.

01:02:44.000 He knows.

01:02:45.000 You don't have to be a genius to come up with dream matchups.

01:02:48.000 This is going to be an interesting fight.

01:02:50.000 You could be an average fan.

01:02:50.000 This is your boy, right?

01:02:51.000 Correct.

01:02:52.000 Zach Cummings, he's fighting this Ponzinubio guy who's a beast.

01:02:57.000 Zach Cummings is a welterweight.

01:02:59.000 That is crazy.

01:03:00.000 That is such a big dude.

01:03:02.000 Is he really?

01:03:02.000 Oh, yeah, man.

01:03:04.000 Like, he's a big fella.

01:03:09.000 I mean, he's got to walk around well over 200 pounds.

01:03:11.000 I think he's an underdog in this fight.

01:03:13.000 Ponzinobio's no joke, man.

01:03:15.000 No joke.

01:03:16.000 This fucking cheese, Cal, and you outdid yourself.

01:03:18.000 I know.

01:03:18.000 And this is a nice Barbaresco.

01:03:20.000 This is 2008. It's like a meal, gentlemen.

01:03:23.000 Look at that.

01:03:24.000 Yeah, Ponzinobio's a scary guy.

01:03:26.000 Oh, my God.

01:03:26.000 Serious knockout striker.

01:03:29.000 Beast of a guy.

01:03:32.000 Look at those ears, too.

01:03:33.000 Let's pin those ears back.

01:03:34.000 Jesus.

01:03:34.000 Handsome guy, but gee whiz.

01:03:35.000 Who's been headlocking him?

01:03:37.000 Yeah.

01:03:37.000 Everybody?

01:03:38.000 Yeah.

01:03:39.000 It's such a crazy look.

01:03:42.000 Even?

01:03:43.000 Yeah, it's a tough fight.

01:03:44.000 Tough fight to call.

01:03:46.000 What do we need to talk about?

01:03:48.000 We need to talk about the Tyron Woodley fight.

01:03:50.000 I'll tell you what I do with Woodley.

01:03:52.000 If I'm Scrooge McDuck, if I'm Dana, this is what you do.

01:03:56.000 So the loyal purists of the sport are going to say, Wonderboy's next.

01:04:01.000 We can't do that because sell that pay-per-view, you get 300 buys.

01:04:04.000 That ain't happening.

01:04:05.000 Neither one's a big draw.

01:04:06.000 It sucks to say.

01:04:07.000 I love both those guys.

01:04:08.000 Let's just be real here.

01:04:09.000 So you do the GSB fight to make Woodley a star so he can be a pay-per-view headliner.

01:04:14.000 Because he's not a headliner right now.

01:04:16.000 Let's get more realistic.

01:04:17.000 If GSP actually wants to fight...

01:04:20.000 Which he does.

01:04:20.000 Is that true?

01:04:21.000 He asked for the fight.

01:04:23.000 If he actually wants to fight, I feel like GSP gets a free pass.

01:04:28.000 He gets a free pass right to the front.

01:04:30.000 You mean like Lesnar?

01:04:31.000 No!

01:04:32.000 No, no, no.

01:04:32.000 Or he can piss hot?

01:04:33.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:04:34.000 What do you mean free?

01:04:34.000 I mean, you've got to let him fight for the title.

01:04:36.000 He's George goddamn St. Pierre.

01:04:38.000 He stepped away as the champion.

01:04:40.000 He's only fighting for title.

01:04:42.000 That's what I feel.

01:04:43.000 So the question is, does he fight now, and does he fight Tyron, or does he fight the winner of Tyron vs.

01:04:51.000 Wonderboy?

01:04:51.000 Or does Wonderboy get paid, or rather, does Tyron get paid, and he fights Nick Diaz?

01:04:58.000 Will he get paid more if he fights Nick Diaz, do you think?

01:05:01.000 Listen, if I was Tyron Woodley, I'd be asking for the Nick Diaz fight.

01:05:04.000 That's what he's doing.

01:05:05.000 Why?

01:05:05.000 He wants GSP or Nick Diaz.

01:05:08.000 He doesn't want Wonderboy.

01:05:09.000 I want money.

01:05:10.000 You know how much stoner money is out there rooting on Nick Diaz?

01:05:14.000 I don't think the UFC maybe even realizes what they have in Nick Diaz.

01:05:18.000 I think they do.

01:05:19.000 Because they put up with this shit.

01:05:20.000 I love Nick Diaz.

01:05:20.000 They should be putting up with everything and more.

01:05:24.000 I agree.

01:05:24.000 He's the best.

01:05:25.000 All this flying him to press conferences.

01:05:28.000 Give him a pass.

01:05:30.000 Give him a pass on that.

01:05:31.000 What is he going to say that's going to be...

01:05:33.000 You're just going to annoy him.

01:05:34.000 Just let him train.

01:05:36.000 Let him train.

01:05:36.000 We all know what Nick Diaz is capable of.

01:05:38.000 Bro, you know what's scary?

01:05:39.000 It's how much press Nate Diaz has been.

01:05:41.000 I love it.

01:05:42.000 He's been doing a lot, a lot of press.

01:05:44.000 He's been doing a lot of press.

01:05:44.000 He's on that Conor McGregor press tour right now.

01:05:46.000 He is.

01:05:47.000 He bashes Wonderboy Thompson and says he should be able to pick his next opponent.

01:05:51.000 Well...

01:05:52.000 As Dana White, if we want entertainment and you want numbers, you do GSP or Nick Diaz.

01:05:57.000 100%.

01:05:57.000 If you're a purist of the sport, you do Wanderboy.

01:06:00.000 I agree.

01:06:01.000 I agree 100%.

01:06:01.000 But the bottom line is, Tyron Woodley is the fucking champion.

01:06:05.000 When you're the champion, you can say all the crazy shit you want.

01:06:09.000 I should be able to pick my opponent.

01:06:11.000 I want to get the money.

01:06:13.000 Yes!

01:06:13.000 Why not?

01:06:14.000 He's the fucking champ!

01:06:15.000 You're fighting Wonderboy on fucking Fox Sports one year on a Wednesday night and you're going to shut your fucking mouth.

01:06:21.000 No, no, you can't say that.

01:06:22.000 That's exactly what they can do.

01:06:24.000 On the same card, GSP versus Nick Diaz and Woodley versus Wonderboy.

01:06:28.000 Same card.

01:06:29.000 Nah, fuck that because you're killing two birds with one storm.

01:06:31.000 No, no, you don't want GSP versus Nick Diaz.

01:06:33.000 You can't do that.

01:06:33.000 Super cards, man.

01:06:34.000 Super cards.

01:06:35.000 No.

01:06:35.000 No super cards?

01:06:37.000 No.

01:06:37.000 Spread it out.

01:06:38.000 Do you know that John Donaher made a post recently saying that GSP, he put it on Instagram, saying that GSP's camp for the Nick Diaz fight was one of the best camps he ever had.

01:06:49.000 Came out of it injury-free, super healthy, and then the night before the fight drank some watermelon juice that had been sitting out for too long and got deathly ill.

01:06:58.000 Was throwing up all night.

01:07:00.000 What kind of watermelon juice was he drinking?

01:07:01.000 I don't know.

01:07:02.000 Probably something crazy.

01:07:03.000 And so he came in that fight.

01:07:04.000 He came in that fight depleted.

01:07:06.000 And they devised a strategy of conserving his energy and not engaging too much.

01:07:10.000 Wow.

01:07:11.000 And when did time his takedown?

01:07:12.000 Jesus Christ.

01:07:13.000 And then when they came in to see the wraps, he was talking about they wrapped GSP's hands and the Diaz camp wanted to see them wrap his hands.

01:07:23.000 So they had to come in, and then he said that George had to, like, imitate this sense of vitality, you know?

01:07:30.000 Because he was, like, so depleted.

01:07:32.000 He had to, like, pretend.

01:07:33.000 He feels fucking great.

01:07:34.000 I feel fucking great.

01:07:36.000 I'm ready to go kick some ass.

01:07:37.000 You know?

01:07:37.000 He had to, like, pump it up.

01:07:40.000 And then when they left, he was like, oh my god.

01:07:42.000 Do I have to do this shit myself again?

01:07:44.000 But didn't Nick Diaz say that someone drugged him in that fight?

01:07:48.000 Yeah, he said that too.

01:07:49.000 Could you imagine if someone drugged both of them, if that's what was going on?

01:07:52.000 They didn't even know it, but somebody drugged both guys.

01:07:55.000 Some asshole who was like, maybe two guys were gamblers.

01:07:58.000 Is that possible?

01:07:58.000 Did someone drug them?

01:07:59.000 GAMBLERS, bro!

01:08:00.000 Fuck yeah!

01:08:01.000 Gamblers!

01:08:01.000 Let me tell you something, man.

01:08:02.000 If you're around some shady, degenerate gamblers, and they put some money on you, and they see Eddie Bravo out for the night in the town, and they know that you're supposed to be fighting someone the next day, and they can drug you and jack the fight, If you read the book about,

01:08:18.000 there's a book written by David Remnick about the fight between Muhammad Ali and Sonny Liston.

01:08:23.000 And in round, I think, seven, they put something on Sonny Liston's gloves that blinded him.

01:08:29.000 And he said, I can't see, I can't see.

01:08:31.000 And I think it was Dundee who said...

01:08:33.000 Kept moving, just move and box.

01:08:34.000 Yeah, just keep moving and keep boxing.

01:08:35.000 And it was a huge turning point.

01:08:36.000 He said, they put something on the gloves.

01:08:38.000 Yep, yeah.

01:08:38.000 And on one.

01:08:39.000 Some shady shit.

01:08:40.000 They did some shady shit, too.

01:08:42.000 Like when he fought Henry Cooper.

01:08:43.000 I think that's a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.

01:08:44.000 He wouldn't let anybody touch his water bottle because they thought they were going to poison him, so he had his water bottle wrapped.

01:08:49.000 That sounds like conspiracy theory shit.

01:08:50.000 He wrapped tape around his water bottle.

01:08:50.000 You don't believe that shit, but you believe Tower 7?

01:08:53.000 If you watch the Sonny Liston fight, it's clear.

01:08:55.000 You hear him say it in the corner.

01:08:56.000 I've watched the fight.

01:08:57.000 It's an interesting one, too, because...

01:09:00.000 Mike Tyson's old manager was the narrator for the fight.

01:09:05.000 You know Mike Tyson's old manager?

01:09:06.000 He had the Jewish guy that died who was his confidant.

01:09:11.000 It was...

01:09:12.000 God damn it.

01:09:13.000 There was a couple different guys that handled Mike Tyson after...

01:09:17.000 Something Jacobs?

01:09:18.000 The black Jewish guy?

01:09:19.000 No, he's a white guy.

01:09:20.000 It was something...

01:09:22.000 Goddammit.

01:09:23.000 It was Kevin Rooney, something Jacobs, and that was like the whole crew that was left over.

01:09:28.000 Anyway, this guy was the narrator for those old fights because they didn't really have audio for them that was correct.

01:09:35.000 But a more interesting example is when Ali's camp cheated, when Henry Cooper caught him with a left hook.

01:09:41.000 Henry Cooper caught him with a left hook and sat him down.

01:09:44.000 Henry Cooper was this badass British heavyweight boxer back in the day.

01:09:48.000 And when Muhammad Ali was still Cassius Clay...

01:09:51.000 Henry Cooper cracked him, and he went down, and when he went back to the corner, he had no idea what the fuck was going on.

01:09:57.000 He was out on his feet.

01:09:58.000 So Angelo Dundee took a razor blade to his gloves, cut his gloves open.

01:10:03.000 Damn!

01:10:03.000 So we gotta change the gloves.

01:10:04.000 The gloves are cut.

01:10:05.000 Tight move.

01:10:06.000 Smart.

01:10:06.000 Smart dude.

01:10:07.000 That's that ATT shit.

01:10:08.000 Smart dude.

01:10:10.000 Back then.

01:10:11.000 So Ali has the chance to recover.

01:10:13.000 Several minutes go by.

01:10:14.000 They change the gloves.

01:10:15.000 They re-tie him up.

01:10:16.000 They re-tape him.

01:10:17.000 Several minutes go by.

01:10:19.000 Brilliant.

01:10:19.000 And then he fucks Henry Cooper up, gets him cut, and winds up stopping him on cuts.

01:10:23.000 Shit, it worked.

01:10:24.000 Yeah.

01:10:25.000 You want to see it?

01:10:25.000 See, watch Henry Cooper drops Muhammad Ali.

01:10:29.000 Because, I mean, dude, he got ja-ropped.

01:10:31.000 That's very similar to your boy, Yoel, in the corner, buying time.

01:10:36.000 Yes, that Tim Kennedy fight.

01:10:38.000 Tim Kennedy should have gotten the win.

01:10:40.000 Stoolgate.

01:10:41.000 Tim Kennedy should have gotten the win because he was not willing to get off his stool and fight at the end of the round.

01:10:46.000 He knew it was the end of the buzzer.

01:10:50.000 When are we going to see him fight Tim Kennedy, please?

01:10:52.000 Well, what fucked up Tim Kennedy after that fight is that...

01:10:56.000 Those are the gloves?

01:10:57.000 That's the actual gloves that was split?

01:10:59.000 They cut the shit out of them.

01:11:01.000 Is there a video of him cutting it?

01:11:03.000 They, like, covered each other up.

01:11:05.000 And they weren't doing videos back then.

01:11:06.000 They had a film of the fight.

01:11:08.000 And then, you know, there was probably only one camera.

01:11:10.000 So you're saying there's no concrete evidence?

01:11:13.000 Well...

01:11:13.000 That glove, son.

01:11:14.000 The gloves are cut up.

01:11:15.000 I mean, they have the gloves.

01:11:16.000 Maybe it happened naturally.

01:11:17.000 It could be.

01:11:18.000 It could be like...

01:11:19.000 Eddie, you're losing Eddie.

01:11:20.000 Eddie, the biggest conspiracy theorist, and he's just...

01:11:22.000 I thought he was going to be in on this.

01:11:24.000 You guys are the biggest skeptics, and you guys didn't believe in this shit.

01:11:26.000 Watch this.

01:11:27.000 Watch this left hook.

01:11:27.000 Check it out right here.

01:11:28.000 Right here.

01:11:29.000 Against the rope.

01:11:29.000 Boom, bitch!

01:11:30.000 Oh, shit.

01:11:32.000 I've never seen him get dropped like that.

01:11:33.000 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

01:11:35.000 Dude, he got fucked up.

01:11:36.000 Look at him.

01:11:37.000 And that's the end of the round.

01:11:38.000 The very end of the round.

01:11:39.000 He gets up, and he sits down.

01:11:40.000 So, I mean, there is like one second before...

01:11:43.000 Look at this.

01:11:44.000 Check this left hook.

01:11:45.000 Boom!

01:11:46.000 That shit is perfect, too.

01:11:48.000 That British power, son.

01:11:49.000 Is there a video of his corner the whole minute?

01:11:53.000 Can we see that?

01:11:53.000 I don't know.

01:11:54.000 That's a good question.

01:11:55.000 Oh, you can see him in front of him, though.

01:11:56.000 They put smelling salts, too.

01:11:58.000 That was the other thing they used to do.

01:11:59.000 You ever use those?

01:12:00.000 They used to use smelling salts.

01:12:01.000 Do you ever use those?

01:12:02.000 Do you believe that Richard Pryor...

01:12:03.000 Oh, we're missing your boy Zach Cummins and Ponzinobio throwing diggity-diggity down.

01:12:07.000 Hey, what about that Aaron Pryor story with the cocaine and all that shit?

01:12:10.000 Yeah, that's supposed to be legit.

01:12:11.000 Is that legit?

01:12:12.000 It's supposed to be legit, but I never heard of liquid cocaine being drank like that.

01:12:16.000 It could have been some other stimulant.

01:12:18.000 It doesn't have to have been.

01:12:20.000 But everybody was like, it's cocaine, it's cocaine.

01:12:21.000 Maybe it was speed.

01:12:22.000 It could have easily been speed.

01:12:23.000 I think you're dead right.

01:12:24.000 You think it's true?

01:12:25.000 Yeah.

01:12:26.000 Either way, you're partying.

01:12:26.000 That guy, Panama Lewis, was busted for a bunch of different things.

01:12:31.000 And one of them was, he had this fight between Billy Collins, I think it was Billy Collins Jr. was his name, and the other guy was Louis Resto.

01:12:42.000 And they took Louis Resto's padding out of his gloves.

01:12:46.000 And when he fought this kid, I think it was Billy Collins Jr. I think that was his name.

01:12:52.000 James Heath, if that's correct.

01:12:55.000 Louis Resto.

01:12:56.000 It's a Louis Resto glove controversy.

01:12:59.000 So anyway, Panama Lewis was the guy who did that, too.

01:13:01.000 He was involved in that.

01:13:04.000 He was banned from boxing after that.

01:13:07.000 You're fucking right he was.

01:13:08.000 He's a cheater.

01:13:09.000 He had went through that thing with Aaron Pryor, and then he went through this new one.

01:13:14.000 But who knows what the fuck was in that bottle?

01:13:16.000 It could have been anything.

01:13:17.000 It could have been a stimulant, but it could have been some sort of fucking sport drink.

01:13:22.000 It could have been something with some sort of nutritional supplement in it that maybe is illegal now, wasn't illegal then.

01:13:29.000 Who the fuck knows?

01:13:29.000 I don't know what he put in there.

01:13:30.000 I think they might have used speed a lot.

01:13:32.000 I know Andre Agustin is...

01:13:33.000 And his autobiography talks about how his dad used to give him speed when he was a kid.

01:13:39.000 And like in the middle, because you know, those matches last four or five, they're five matches.

01:13:44.000 It's a long time, four hours, or whatever it was.

01:13:47.000 And he would give his son and his brothers, he'd be like, here you go, take this.

01:13:52.000 And he'd be like, pat me up.

01:13:53.000 Those little fuckers went nuts on it.

01:13:55.000 Oh yeah.

01:13:58.000 Speed was a huge thing in baseball as well.

01:14:01.000 A lot of guys were taking speed and even Adderall.

01:14:05.000 It's always been...

01:14:06.000 Adderall's still big.

01:14:07.000 It was always big in medical school.

01:14:09.000 Medical school was always big.

01:14:10.000 It was always big among fighter pilots.

01:14:14.000 Louis Resto, and who was the other gentleman's name?

01:14:16.000 Billy Collins?

01:14:17.000 Was it Collins?

01:14:18.000 I don't see the name.

01:14:19.000 There's a documentary about it called Assault in the Ring.

01:14:21.000 Have you used Adderall?

01:14:22.000 No, I have not.

01:14:24.000 You haven't used it either?

01:14:25.000 No, no.

01:14:25.000 Billy Collins Jr., yes, I was right.

01:14:27.000 Adderall's good stuff?

01:14:28.000 I did it once in college, but for some final, I write this paper.

01:14:32.000 I took it, and dude, I was a chatty Cathy.

01:14:35.000 I got nothing done.

01:14:37.000 Someone walked by like, hey, what are you doing?

01:14:38.000 What are you doing?

01:14:39.000 Nothing fucking, for six hours just talking.

01:14:42.000 Straight.

01:14:42.000 You boy, Zach Cummings just landed a hard body kick.

01:14:45.000 Dude, I haven't watched one round of any of these guys.

01:14:47.000 These guys are welterweights?

01:14:49.000 Yeah.

01:14:49.000 That's crazy.

01:14:49.000 They're giants.

01:14:51.000 Cummings is a big boy.

01:14:52.000 How big is he, Brendan?

01:14:54.000 6'1"?

01:14:55.000 Whoa!

01:14:56.000 Wheel kick.

01:14:56.000 That's a wheel kick.

01:14:57.000 Definitely looks like it.

01:14:58.000 Oh, we've got a clip in the right hand.

01:15:00.000 Here we go.

01:15:00.000 Oh, he likes it.

01:15:01.000 Oh, shit.

01:15:01.000 Nice takedown.

01:15:03.000 Ah, good recovery.

01:15:03.000 Ponsonobio, right back up.

01:15:04.000 Ooh, just missed with the hook of death.

01:15:06.000 They're both listed at six foot.

01:15:09.000 Yeah.

01:15:09.000 Joe, you want one of these berries to knock your socks off?

01:15:11.000 No, I'm good.

01:15:12.000 I mean, they're fucked.

01:15:13.000 I've been balls deep in berries and shoes right now.

01:15:15.000 It might be the best blackberries I've ever tried.

01:15:17.000 Oh, big kick to the body by Cummings at the end of the round.

01:15:22.000 Jason Statham.

01:15:23.000 This is so silly.

01:15:25.000 Jason Statham is reviving his Charles Bronson character.

01:15:29.000 That guy would fuck both of you up.

01:15:32.000 Hey, man.

01:15:32.000 Easy.

01:15:33.000 Olympic athlete.

01:15:35.000 He was an Olympic diver.

01:15:37.000 That's a big deal, actually.

01:15:38.000 Sure.

01:15:39.000 Jessica Alba, back.

01:15:41.000 Tommy Lee Jones, a bad guy.

01:15:43.000 Oh, he looks ridiculous.

01:15:45.000 Yeah, with a goatee.

01:15:45.000 He looks ridiculous.

01:15:47.000 Holy shit.

01:15:47.000 The mechanic, resurrected.

01:15:49.000 He had those same glasses.

01:15:50.000 He looks ridiculous.

01:15:50.000 Look, if they made that movie good, you'd be upset.

01:15:54.000 Yeah.

01:15:54.000 If that was a really good movie with an awesome plot, you'd be pissed.

01:15:56.000 That's kind of hilarious.

01:15:59.000 With, like, depth and you had to wait for character development.

01:16:02.000 Where's the actions?

01:16:03.000 Is somebody gonna get shot?

01:16:04.000 What the fuck?

01:16:04.000 I've been 20 minutes into this goddamn movie.

01:16:06.000 If they took the guy that made Ex Machina and they made him direct the new mechanic, you'd be like, what the fuck is going on?

01:16:12.000 Who wrote this?

01:16:13.000 Dude, you know what movie you were wrong about?

01:16:15.000 What?

01:16:15.000 That fucking Cloverfield.

01:16:17.000 How dare you?

01:16:18.000 You didn't like that?

01:16:19.000 No!

01:16:19.000 The ending...

01:16:20.000 Sucked, right?

01:16:20.000 Yes!

01:16:21.000 I thought it was crazy.

01:16:22.000 I thought it was amazing until the ending, right?

01:16:24.000 The ending was like, what the fuck?

01:16:25.000 But meanwhile, I'm in.

01:16:30.000 I'll take both endings.

01:16:31.000 Goddammit!

01:16:31.000 I like it.

01:16:32.000 I like the ending of the first one.

01:16:33.000 I like the ending of the second one.

01:16:34.000 You like a good sci-fi movie, right?

01:16:36.000 I wrote stupid fucking shit.

01:16:38.000 I love Bigfoot.

01:16:39.000 I wrote this tweet the other day.

01:16:40.000 It was half joking, but not even half.

01:16:44.000 It was at least 2% of my thoughts every day are secretly hoping that Bigfoot's real.

01:16:50.000 I'm retarded, man.

01:16:52.000 UFOs, Bigfoot, all that shit.

01:16:53.000 We all do have loopy, like, we have thoughts.

01:16:55.000 Like, you'll have a loop that you think about all the time, you know what I mean?

01:16:58.000 Like, you come back to the same theme.

01:17:00.000 I'll have arguments in my head with people that it never happens.

01:17:04.000 It's weird.

01:17:04.000 I have a really weird thing that I think about every day.

01:17:07.000 Wait a minute, what?

01:17:08.000 You get arguments with people and you figure out an argument.

01:17:11.000 Yeah, I'm like, oh really?

01:17:13.000 We talk about it all the time.

01:17:15.000 Like with my agent too.

01:17:17.000 Oh no!

01:17:17.000 And then when I talk to them, it goes nothing how I thought it was going to go.

01:17:20.000 That's so crazy.

01:17:21.000 You're like betrayed.

01:17:22.000 I'm still confused.

01:17:23.000 We were talking about this.

01:17:25.000 Like if you're betrayed.

01:17:26.000 You have an argument?

01:17:27.000 I'll have an argument.

01:17:28.000 Like with a buddy, I know he's going to say something.

01:17:31.000 So in my head, I'm like, yeah, he's going to say this.

01:17:32.000 I'm going to do this.

01:17:33.000 And I think he's going to say this.

01:17:34.000 Then when I see him, he goes, nothing like that.

01:17:36.000 No.

01:17:37.000 He's like, yeah, cool, man.

01:17:38.000 He's all, yeah, cool, man.

01:17:39.000 What the fuck are you talking about?

01:17:40.000 Really?

01:17:41.000 You're planning an argument, and then it doesn't go the way you planned?

01:17:44.000 Yeah, it goes nothing like I planned.

01:17:46.000 What kind of arguments do you plan?

01:17:48.000 I have hypothetical conversations with important people in my life, and then when I see them, it goes nothing like that.

01:17:53.000 But you have hypothetical adversarial conversations about important people.

01:17:57.000 It's weird.

01:17:58.000 You're ready for the conversation, you're ready for the debate, and you're like, fuck, he crushes you?

01:18:02.000 No, no, no.

01:18:03.000 It means it becomes all friendly.

01:18:05.000 It doesn't get adversarial at all.

01:18:07.000 Yeah, he's like, what's up, bro?

01:18:07.000 I'm like, hey, how's it going?

01:18:08.000 That's it.

01:18:08.000 I do the exact same thing.

01:18:10.000 Man, I'm still confused.

01:18:11.000 And what I also do is...

01:18:12.000 What the fuck are you talking about?

01:18:14.000 It's weird.

01:18:15.000 He's crazy.

01:18:16.000 He's what he's telling you.

01:18:16.000 What I do is...

01:18:17.000 If somebody, like, did something that I was like, oh, that's kind of mean, or whatever, then I'll extrapolate, and I'll be like, what if he was that way all the time?

01:18:25.000 And then what if he shoved me?

01:18:26.000 And then what if he called me a bitch?

01:18:28.000 And then I'll just keep going.

01:18:29.000 Before I know it, I'm having the same exact thing.

01:18:31.000 I'm having a verbal argument in my car.

01:18:33.000 I have done that.

01:18:36.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:18:37.000 Now I get you.

01:18:39.000 He explained it better.

01:18:41.000 You're thinking, okay, this motherfucker's going to come at me with this, and he's going to come at me with that.

01:18:45.000 Well, I got this ready for him, and I got that ready for him.

01:18:48.000 And you're like practicing this shit.

01:18:49.000 No, I go through the whole thing.

01:18:51.000 Yeah, I do that.

01:18:52.000 I think everybody does that.

01:18:53.000 I do something even more ridiculous.

01:18:56.000 I daily have a fantasy that I live in a part of the world where gangs are running everything and they're terrorizing my village or my town.

01:19:06.000 That's Los Angeles, right?

01:19:07.000 Yep.

01:19:07.000 And what I do then is I secretly, I push a cart, a food cart.

01:19:12.000 I'm humble, but I have a small gun with a silencer and I kill all the bad guys quietly.

01:19:17.000 And they're like, who the fuck is killing us, man?

01:19:19.000 What the fuck is going on?

01:19:20.000 And I'm like, would you like another hot dog?

01:19:22.000 Is this the plot of the professional?

01:19:23.000 Would you like some...

01:19:23.000 Yeah, that's literally how I... What the fuck?

01:19:25.000 I think about how I protect myself.

01:19:27.000 You're totally sane, all of you.

01:19:28.000 I feel like Eddie Bravo died.

01:19:29.000 Well, that got weird.

01:19:31.000 That got...

01:19:31.000 That got weird.

01:19:32.000 Eddie Bravo died.

01:19:32.000 I'm sorry, guys.

01:19:33.000 You know what?

01:19:33.000 I have thought something similar.

01:19:35.000 What the fuck?

01:19:36.000 I thought...

01:19:36.000 No, this isn't what I'm talking about.

01:19:38.000 What if you could figure out how long it takes to kill someone with a choke and then how long it takes to put them in a vegetative state permanently?

01:19:47.000 Well, you can do that.

01:19:47.000 And you master that.

01:19:48.000 That's interesting.

01:19:49.000 So like anybody, like you're like a vigilante.

01:19:51.000 Yes.

01:19:52.000 And anybody who deserves to be a vegetable, you're not going to kill them.

01:19:55.000 Child molesters.

01:19:55.000 You're just going to kill them and you have a timer, you have 45 seconds, you let them go and they're a vegetable.

01:20:00.000 You didn't kill them.

01:20:00.000 That's genius, dude.

01:20:02.000 You didn't kill them, but they're like...

01:20:03.000 Hold on.

01:20:03.000 I hold the timer.

01:20:04.000 I hold the timer.

01:20:05.000 You know what I mean?

01:20:06.000 One by one you just turn.

01:20:07.000 There's like this epidemic of vegetables.

01:20:09.000 That's amazing.

01:20:10.000 It's like a vigilante vegetable maker.

01:20:12.000 But then there's a guy that you didn't hold that choke long enough and it wasn't lined up right.

01:20:15.000 And he's all like...

01:20:18.000 Fuck!

01:20:19.000 You gotta put him in another arm triangle!

01:20:21.000 You're like, oh shit!

01:20:22.000 So you change it to an arm triangle and you fucking, oh, I need 15 more seconds.

01:20:27.000 Fuck, the cops are showing up.

01:20:28.000 Goddamn!

01:20:29.000 And then you let him go.

01:20:30.000 So basically, you guys want to be like fake superheroes.

01:20:33.000 He's a vigilante.

01:20:34.000 That's what it is.

01:20:34.000 You're gonna be superheroes.

01:20:36.000 There's a sick play.

01:20:36.000 There's a sick play called the Toyer.

01:20:38.000 It's called Veggies.

01:20:40.000 That's the end of the movie.

01:20:41.000 There's like an epidemic of vegetables.

01:20:44.000 Like there's vegetables everywhere and they're like...

01:20:46.000 Detectives are just like...

01:20:47.000 But he figures out they're all bad guys.

01:20:49.000 They're all bad guys.

01:20:50.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:20:51.000 All the vegetables...

01:20:52.000 Would I go to jail for holding the tire?

01:20:54.000 It's like Dexter.

01:20:54.000 It's like a jiu-jitsu Dexter.

01:20:56.000 Yes.

01:20:57.000 Eddie, do you remember that conversation we had once about guys getting hit so hard that it turns them gay?

01:21:03.000 That's ridiculous.

01:21:05.000 You and I went off for at least an hour like children about how incredible it would be if dudes had to get revenge because a guy turned them gay and they showed up for the next fight with a parasol and pink clothes on, holding a handbag.

01:21:20.000 He had them in the sand and then fucked them.

01:21:23.000 It just, someone knocked him out so bad that they turned gay, and that it was a possibility.

01:21:28.000 Like, you know how you can get CTE? Yeah.

01:21:31.000 Like, the idea is, like, imagine, and they were like, what if it was like a thing?

01:21:36.000 What if it was a thing like, like, there was a keep you from breeding if you got your ass kicked?

01:21:40.000 Like in the wolves population, the alphas and the betas duke it out, the beta gets kicked out of the crew if he gets his ass kicked, right?

01:21:45.000 Right, yeah.

01:21:45.000 Right?

01:21:46.000 Maybe it would be something like that, where two guys duke it out, one guy beats your ass, he turns you gay.

01:21:50.000 Every time.

01:21:51.000 How much more would the stakes be every time you lost?

01:21:55.000 No one's fighting anybody.

01:21:57.000 We were talking about how much...

01:21:58.000 Do you remember the conversation?

01:21:59.000 I forgot.

01:22:00.000 We were so high.

01:22:02.000 We were like, how much more dangerous would fighting be if you lost, you turned gay?

01:22:07.000 Oh, people would carry helmets with us.

01:22:09.000 If someone KO'd you, if you became gay.

01:22:11.000 Oh, Wolverine just turned everyone gay.

01:22:14.000 He's gay, too.

01:22:15.000 That's true.

01:22:16.000 He's been knocked out more than anyone.

01:22:17.000 You know fighters that are like starting to slur their words and you start seeing signs of like the fucking...

01:22:21.000 Makeup.

01:22:22.000 Like they're going full zombie.

01:22:23.000 Yeah, but you'd see signs of them turning gay, but they're trying to hide it.

01:22:27.000 You know what I mean?

01:22:27.000 They start slowly with like wooden beads and tight-fitting shirts.

01:22:32.000 They start wearing shirts like the one I'm wearing.

01:22:34.000 Yeah, you gotta sit them down and have that Brendan Schaub talking or you gotta stop.

01:22:38.000 Look what you're doing.

01:22:39.000 You're looking at my dick all day.

01:22:41.000 It would start like this.

01:22:42.000 You gotta start looking for alternative careers, man.

01:22:45.000 You're looking at my dick every time we hang out.

01:22:48.000 I think it would be more subtle.

01:22:49.000 It'd be more subtle.

01:22:50.000 It'd be more subtle.

01:22:51.000 You'd be like, I think Wolverine is plucking his eyebrows.

01:22:54.000 Do you notice that?

01:22:55.000 Yeah.

01:22:55.000 It's like he's contouring you.

01:22:56.000 Yeah.

01:22:57.000 Is he wearing cologne?

01:22:57.000 Did he put those ice ice baby shaves in him?

01:23:00.000 Those fucking beautiful vanilla ice slices.

01:23:03.000 Did he get a facial?

01:23:04.000 What's going on with him?

01:23:05.000 Dun, dun, dun.

01:23:05.000 He keeps smiling at me.

01:23:08.000 We'd all be fucked up over and turn gay.

01:23:10.000 He's taking too many shots.

01:23:12.000 It's clear.

01:23:13.000 But maybe you have to get a win back to get your heterosexual back.

01:23:16.000 This is the worst idea.

01:23:18.000 So you can choose.

01:23:18.000 You can choose to either...

01:23:19.000 Every time you knock someone out, it's like you get a...

01:23:22.000 Hey, ladies and gentlemen, two of us in this conversation are almost 50. And how old are you now, Eddie?

01:23:29.000 29. There you go.

01:23:31.000 Oh, my God.

01:23:32.000 Yeah, we should definitely be more grown up by now.

01:23:35.000 I think so, but you know, I keep waiting.

01:23:36.000 The crazy thing is I'm fucking 46. I'm an old motherfucker.

01:23:40.000 50 is right there.

01:23:41.000 I have a kid.

01:23:42.000 I'm sitting there at the fucking breakfast table with my son and my wife, and I feel like I'm 19. I feel like I'm acting in this.

01:23:51.000 I feel like a little kid, but I'm 46. I'm old as shit.

01:23:55.000 Yeah, I don't feel like a grown-up.

01:23:56.000 You know what I mean?

01:23:57.000 Growing up on TV, you see that guy reading the newspaper and he's got his kids and he's only 38, like 5. Well, you could be that guy if you want.

01:24:06.000 And I'm way older than that motherfucker that's in my head.

01:24:09.000 But how would you define...

01:24:10.000 And I feel like a little kid raising a kid.

01:24:12.000 I feel like a kid raising a kid.

01:24:14.000 It's so weird.

01:24:14.000 How would you define what an adult is?

01:24:17.000 Right?

01:24:17.000 So here he goes.

01:24:19.000 No, but I mean...

01:24:20.000 Hey, here's one.

01:24:22.000 Someone that doesn't lose their wallet at 49. Goddammit.

01:24:26.000 But you're supposed to be like, how would he define, like, well, now I'm an adult.

01:24:29.000 Well, I guess that would mean what?

01:24:31.000 That I have people I'm responsible for?

01:24:33.000 That I make my own money?

01:24:35.000 You're not dependent on your parents?

01:24:37.000 Yeah.

01:24:38.000 You have your own pills.

01:24:39.000 But you depend on other people, right?

01:24:40.000 Not really.

01:24:41.000 In a way, like, just, well, yeah, you're right.

01:24:43.000 Oh, shit.

01:24:44.000 I don't know.

01:24:44.000 It's a boring conversation.

01:24:45.000 All right, cheers, boys.

01:24:46.000 Dude.

01:24:47.000 Cheers to not getting knocked out training games.

01:24:48.000 Hey, that's a huge glass you just poured yourself.

01:24:50.000 You poured this.

01:24:51.000 What is it, Kool-Aid?

01:24:52.000 Am I going crazy?

01:24:53.000 No, you did.

01:24:53.000 No.

01:24:53.000 It's these fucking voices, man.

01:24:55.000 Hey, slow down, dude.

01:24:57.000 You got a child now.

01:25:00.000 How is fatherhood, man?

01:25:01.000 Who's this so far?

01:25:02.000 Isn't it amazing?

01:25:03.000 Yeah, it's the best, man.

01:25:03.000 Dude.

01:25:04.000 Well, like, the first couple months, like, eh, he needs his mom.

01:25:07.000 It's whatever.

01:25:07.000 He doesn't recognize me.

01:25:08.000 Now, he's finally recognizing me.

01:25:10.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:25:10.000 He loves the shit out of me.

01:25:12.000 And we look identical.

01:25:14.000 It gets so...

01:25:15.000 Wait, show him the picture.

01:25:15.000 It gets better and better.

01:25:16.000 You see a picture of him?

01:25:17.000 It gets better and better and better.

01:25:18.000 I've seen a few pictures.

01:25:19.000 It's awesome.

01:25:20.000 It's not...

01:25:21.000 There's nothing like it.

01:25:21.000 You know, I'm not the guy.

01:25:23.000 Wait till he says daddy hold me.

01:25:23.000 I want a squad.

01:25:24.000 Wait till he says daddy.

01:25:25.000 I want, like, five.

01:25:26.000 I want five.

01:25:27.000 Yeah, I'm not the guy that tells people that they need it in their life.

01:25:31.000 Because, uh, smoke that.

01:25:33.000 Alright guys, we're going down a weird rabbit hole now.

01:25:36.000 Hey listen, all you guys out there, I say, live single and experience everything and travel the world.

01:25:45.000 And then once you do all that shit, there's good shit.

01:25:47.000 The kid stuff, it used to be, when I was growing up, getting a girl pregnant was like Your life is over!

01:25:54.000 Your life is over!

01:25:56.000 Nowadays, it seems like people are having kids and their life means more than ever.

01:26:02.000 It's also the people you're hanging out with.

01:26:04.000 Yeah, that's the people you're hanging out with.

01:26:05.000 But you know what, man?

01:26:06.000 I've come across a lot of different people in this world.

01:26:09.000 And I think at a certain point in time, I... Personally think we gotta stop like thinking everybody's gonna live the same way.

01:26:19.000 Yeah, you know, and if if somebody gets pregnant at 18 and they marry the the their high school sweetheart at 18 That shit sometimes works.

01:26:27.000 Oh, yeah, just like hell.

01:26:28.000 Yeah, but we're immediately as men were like that fucking dude damn So pure Well, you know what, man?

01:26:38.000 It's not just that, but it's also everybody's fucking different, man.

01:26:42.000 You know, that's like for some people, they find the right person like real early and they just grow together.

01:26:48.000 They figure out a way to be like really open and friendly really early and they grow together.

01:26:53.000 There's also nothing worse when I meet a 50 year old, and we have a friend like this, who's not married, has no girlfriend, still playing the field, and he's lonely as fuck.

01:27:01.000 I'm like, that's how this movie ends, my man.

01:27:04.000 Not everyone's fucking George Clooney, buddy.

01:27:06.000 It looks fun, but it's super lonely.

01:27:08.000 Man, there were times in my life, and me and Joe discussed this many times before we had kids, like, do we really want kids?

01:27:16.000 You're like, do you want kids?

01:27:17.000 I think I want kids, but not now, but maybe.

01:27:20.000 And then a lot of kids.

01:27:20.000 It's like, fuck, I don't want kids.

01:27:22.000 Fuck that.

01:27:22.000 And then you'd see fathers on planes with their kids and they're like, fuck, we're lucky we're not them.

01:27:28.000 So there were times where I thought, man, I don't want any kids.

01:27:33.000 I think I was afraid that I was going to feel the same way about my kids as my real dad felt about me.

01:27:39.000 And that would have been a nightmare.

01:27:41.000 So I'm like, maybe I got that same shit that my dad has that he don't give a fuck about his kids.

01:27:46.000 So I'm like, I'm afraid to have kids because I'm afraid that my kid is going to feel about me like I feel about my dad and that would make me want to fucking hang myself.

01:27:55.000 So there was a lot of time for like, I'm thinking no kids, no kids.

01:27:59.000 But then I'm like, maybe kids?

01:28:00.000 I don't know.

01:28:01.000 Same thing Joe.

01:28:02.000 There's times where Joe was saying no kids.

01:28:04.000 But I will say this.

01:28:05.000 Let me finish real quick.

01:28:05.000 Let me finish this really quick.

01:28:07.000 If I was if I was if I found out I was gonna die in five minutes One of my messages would be to all these kids grown up and everything the me like my My version of the meaning of life really after all the shit after no kids kids fuck having kids I want to be free and all that shit I live single up to I'm 40 I would say Having kids is the meaning of life.

01:28:32.000 That's what I would say.

01:28:33.000 Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I would say.

01:28:35.000 I would leave my advice like, you're all confused and all that shit.

01:28:40.000 At the end of the day, when you're getting old, and everyone's going to get old, unless they die young, but when you get old, you're kids.

01:28:47.000 Your kids are everything.

01:28:50.000 They're everything.

01:28:52.000 And then your grandkids.

01:28:54.000 Without kids, if you're going to grow old and alone, if I was going to die, I'd say, don't.

01:29:00.000 Try to have kids.

01:29:01.000 Don't die old and alone.

01:29:04.000 You only have one, though, yeah?

01:29:05.000 Don't.

01:29:06.000 I want more.

01:29:07.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:29:07.000 Let's pop out more, though.

01:29:09.000 Yes.

01:29:09.000 For me.

01:29:09.000 Just give this huge speech on kids.

01:29:11.000 Right now, man, I'm super crazy ultra...

01:29:17.000 I'm a family man right now.

01:29:18.000 It's everything to me.

01:29:19.000 It's everything.

01:29:20.000 My life is...

01:29:21.000 I every day remind my...

01:29:22.000 Because sometimes you get so busy and you've got all these decisions and there's so much shit going on.

01:29:26.000 Why don't you adopt like six African kids?

01:29:28.000 You're with your kid and you're thinking about...

01:29:30.000 The Eddie Bravo Orphanage.

01:29:33.000 The 10th Planet Orphanage.

01:29:34.000 10th Planet Kids.

01:29:35.000 There's 10. I'm going to stop with this.

01:29:37.000 Sometimes you're with your kids and you guys out there, you might feel the same way if you're with your kids.

01:29:43.000 Sometimes you're with your kid and you're spending these beautiful moments together, but you're thinking about all this stressful shit and all these decisions you've got to make in your life and fucking EBI AIDS coming up September 11th.

01:29:53.000 You're like, fuck.

01:29:54.000 But then I stop and I think.

01:29:55.000 Nice plug.

01:29:55.000 Yeah.

01:29:56.000 That was impressive.

01:29:57.000 Seriously, this was all day.

01:29:58.000 Fight pass.

01:29:59.000 This is stressful shit.

01:30:02.000 And I'm thinking, I'm here, I'm on the beach today.

01:30:04.000 I'm at the beach with my son.

01:30:05.000 I'm like, these are the moments I'm going to be thinking about when I'm dying.

01:30:08.000 And I'm fucking thinking about some bullshit.

01:30:11.000 Right now, this is a moment that I would want to come back to if there was a time machine and I can get back...

01:30:18.000 I would come back to this moment, and I wouldn't be thinking about any of the bullshit.

01:30:21.000 I would be thinking about every millisecond I had with my son on the beach, playing in the water and shit.

01:30:27.000 And I'm thinking about other shit, so I constantly remind myself what is the most important thing.

01:30:33.000 Kids that do that, my man.

01:30:34.000 That motherfucker right there, he's the most important thing.

01:30:37.000 That little motherfucker right there?

01:30:39.000 I hear you.

01:30:40.000 You know what I mean?

01:30:40.000 So, I'm going to stop.

01:30:43.000 I'm done.

01:30:44.000 For sure you need more kids, though.

01:30:45.000 I do.

01:30:46.000 I do.

01:30:46.000 I want more.

01:30:48.000 Well, I'm done.

01:30:49.000 Joel looks exhausted.

01:30:51.000 I'm done.

01:30:52.000 No, listen, what you're saying is all beautiful.

01:30:54.000 For sure, man.

01:30:54.000 I'm with you.

01:30:55.000 That's the most important thing when I provide myself.

01:30:57.000 I'm like, shit, I got all this shit.

01:30:58.000 I'm like, listen, focus on this motherfucker.

01:31:00.000 I think for all of us, living in the moment is very important.

01:31:04.000 And it's tough to do.

01:31:05.000 It's hard to do.

01:31:06.000 It's something you've got to be real conscious of because it's so easy to get trapped up with your thoughts.

01:31:11.000 Your thoughts can get gummed up with some unnecessary patterns.

01:31:15.000 Even plans, right?

01:31:16.000 Trying to foresee the future.

01:31:17.000 You've got to remind yourself what the most important thing is.

01:31:20.000 And the most important thing, if you've got kids, that should be the base of your existence right there.

01:31:29.000 If it's not, something's wrong.

01:31:31.000 Besides having kids, there are those moments...

01:31:33.000 What do you think when you were in your 30s that you had that one switch where you decided you were going to...

01:31:40.000 Is that Paige Van Zandt in a Sprite commercial?

01:31:42.000 No, this is that bullshit mobile phone.

01:31:46.000 It's like cricket, but for UFC. Oh.

01:31:48.000 Huh.

01:31:49.000 Metro PCS. They're only in the hoods.

01:31:51.000 She's adorable.

01:31:52.000 They're like 9.99 flippo.

01:31:54.000 This is a sad, like, they're like diminishing that poor man.

01:31:58.000 He has to chase her and she's not tired and he's exhausted.

01:32:01.000 It's Metro PCS. She's got some beefy arms too.

01:32:03.000 It's very Metro.

01:32:05.000 Metro's cricket, yes.

01:32:06.000 Right, like, if he tried to get fucking crazy, she would beat his ass.

01:32:10.000 Maybe.

01:32:11.000 That's the commercial.

01:32:12.000 He might be a black belt.

01:32:13.000 Oh, that's the commercial.

01:32:14.000 No, no, no, no.

01:32:14.000 In that commercial, right there, that girl beats that dude's ass.

01:32:17.000 You put me in that commercial, I'll sprint past that bitch.

01:32:20.000 Hey, Brendan, she ain't beating me anywhere in the world.

01:32:23.000 Two or three years ago, guys...

01:32:25.000 Cut!

01:32:25.000 Dude, you gotta let her beat you.

01:32:26.000 It ain't fucking happening, man.

01:32:28.000 Two or three years ago, guys, MMA fans or experts or whatever, there would be a big movement on how, no matter how good an MMA female fighter is, she could never beat a normal man.

01:32:40.000 It's totally different.

01:32:41.000 Well, now these...

01:32:42.000 I think shit's different now.

01:32:44.000 Oh, I know.

01:32:45.000 Depends on the culture, Eddie.

01:32:46.000 Oh, come on.

01:32:47.000 Depends on the culture.

01:32:48.000 In Spain?

01:32:49.000 Claudia will fuck up a dude who doesn't train.

01:32:52.000 A dude who doesn't train, which is 99. How big?

01:32:54.000 How big, though?

01:32:55.000 It does matter.

01:32:57.000 It always matters in everything.

01:32:59.000 Within experts in jiu-jitsu, it matters.

01:33:01.000 It always matters.

01:33:02.000 But an entretening 250-pound dude and Claudia...

01:33:06.000 He's gonna knock that bitch to the moon.

01:33:08.000 No, but if he's like 99.9999% of the population who doesn't train, I'll put my fucking money on Claudia.

01:33:16.000 Are you talking about Claudia Gedalia?

01:33:18.000 Yes!

01:33:18.000 Are you kidding me?

01:33:21.000 He's 250 pounds.

01:33:23.000 Oh, no, no, no.

01:33:23.000 If he doesn't train?

01:33:25.000 Yeah, but if he's way bigger than her?

01:33:27.000 She would still get his back and still choke the fuck.

01:33:29.000 I'll put my money on her.

01:33:30.000 Maybe because she's got jujitsu.

01:33:31.000 If he doesn't train.

01:33:32.000 It's possible.

01:33:33.000 250-pound guy that doesn't train against Claudia.

01:33:36.000 Today, if you're going to put your money on...

01:33:38.000 Claudia will get her...

01:33:39.000 She'll stand on the outside.

01:33:40.000 I'd have to see the guy.

01:33:41.000 It depends on what kind of guy.

01:33:43.000 If he was like a Ray Lewis...

01:33:44.000 Hey, listen.

01:33:45.000 Like, Ray Lewis doesn't train...

01:33:46.000 I'm not talking about...

01:33:47.000 He would spike on her head.

01:33:49.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:33:50.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:33:52.000 Bill Romanowski doesn't train.

01:33:53.000 He doesn't train.

01:33:54.000 Claudia touches him, he's gonna flicker back to Brazil.

01:33:57.000 Man, you guys are talking about a 250-pound Ray Lewis.

01:34:00.000 I'm talking about 99.999% of the population.

01:34:03.000 We're just trying to clarify.

01:34:05.000 Yeah, I'm trying to see what you...

01:34:06.000 Ray Lewis doesn't train.

01:34:08.000 I'm trying to say it.

01:34:10.000 Eddie, you need more wine.

01:34:11.000 Hey, listen.

01:34:11.000 My point is...

01:34:12.000 No, don't say that.

01:34:12.000 No, no.

01:34:13.000 My point is...

01:34:15.000 The top UFC female fighters today, I would always put my money on them over a guy, any guy on the planet that doesn't train.

01:34:27.000 I'm going to put all my money on a professional UFC champion.

01:34:31.000 Think about Johanna on the street and there's a 190 pound guy who's never trained.

01:34:38.000 Who are you going to put your money on if there was a confrontation in an alley?

01:34:42.000 I've got to see the guy, Eddie.

01:34:43.000 Show me a picture of the fucking It's Johanna.

01:34:46.000 Come on!

01:34:48.000 Generally, I'm not talking about technically.

01:34:50.000 We gotta get no age.

01:34:51.000 What are you gonna want?

01:34:52.000 The guy's background and what he did growing up and all that shit?

01:34:55.000 I'm talking about generally.

01:34:56.000 If he played high school football, he's 250 pounds, he's in shape, does CrossFit, he will kick that bitch straight in the throat.

01:35:01.000 CrossFit?

01:35:02.000 What world are you in?

01:35:03.000 What fucking world are you living in?

01:35:05.000 You're gonna put your money on a CrossFit guy who's never trained martial arts over Johanna.

01:35:10.000 Who's wearing some caterpillar boots and doesn't give a fuck about women?

01:35:14.000 You hate women.

01:35:17.000 Eddie, what an indictment.

01:35:18.000 I'm done.

01:35:19.000 I'm done.

01:35:20.000 I'll put my money on Claudia.

01:35:21.000 If Claudia...

01:35:22.000 I gotta see the guy, Eddie.

01:35:23.000 Johanna's 115 pounds, and if she was gonna go against a 200-pound random dude who doesn't train...

01:35:29.000 She's gonna mess him up.

01:35:29.000 You say Claudia.

01:35:30.000 Fuck that dude up.

01:35:31.000 That's gonna be a little...

01:35:33.000 That's...

01:35:34.000 What are you talking about, guys?

01:35:36.000 Jesus fucking Christ.

01:35:38.000 These are professional killers!

01:35:42.000 Just because a girl's like, no, a guy is a guy, and a guy just smashes.

01:35:47.000 It's a bad Brendan impersonation.

01:35:48.000 Well, it depends on what kind of guy you're talking about.

01:35:51.000 These are professional.

01:35:51.000 Yes, correct.

01:35:52.000 It just depends.

01:35:53.000 I'm with you 100%.

01:35:54.000 I don't even give a fuck if the guy played high school football and he's fucking a state champion.

01:35:58.000 I would take a state champion.

01:36:00.000 Come on.

01:36:01.000 That's where I disagree.

01:36:03.000 Oh, you're going to put your...

01:36:04.000 Those guys, they never train though.

01:36:05.000 They never train.

01:36:06.000 They know how to tackle people.

01:36:08.000 They got this.

01:36:09.000 If you got a college football player as a starting linebacker.

01:36:11.000 You think guys know how to throw?

01:36:12.000 You could just throw a punch?

01:36:14.000 Just because you're big and he's doing whatever he wants.

01:36:15.000 You gotta train to throw punches.

01:36:17.000 You don't watch world star hip-hop.

01:36:19.000 You gotta train, Eddie.

01:36:20.000 You don't watch world star hip-hop.

01:36:20.000 Let me ask you this, Eddie.

01:36:21.000 In all earnestness.

01:36:22.000 In all earnestness.

01:36:23.000 Okay, you got it.

01:36:23.000 Eddie, there has to be some sort of a weight...

01:36:29.000 That you're talking about.

01:36:30.000 Like, if there's two people at 115 pounds, one of them is Ioannion Jacek, and the other one is Mitch Frickin' Fuck.

01:36:39.000 At Kingco's.

01:36:40.000 From fucking Westchester, New York.

01:36:42.000 He's going to sleep.

01:36:43.000 Yeah, this guy who works in the accounting office and eats McDonald's every weekend.

01:36:47.000 Yeah.

01:36:47.000 He's getting his head kicked off.

01:36:49.000 He's getting a nose done.

01:36:50.000 He's a man!

01:36:53.000 I'm talking about a non-training athlete or non-athlete male the same size as her.

01:37:00.000 She's going to kill him.

01:37:01.000 The lesbian community is coming after you guys.

01:37:03.000 Listen, man.

01:37:05.000 We're just trying to establish some parameters here.

01:37:08.000 What she's capable of doing If you're talking about...

01:37:12.000 There's a spectrum.

01:37:14.000 And there's the non-training, non-athlete male that's the same size as her.

01:37:20.000 She'd kill him.

01:37:21.000 He's gonna get fucked up.

01:37:22.000 He's gonna get fucked up.

01:37:23.000 Most likely, right?

01:37:24.000 But then, as you get bigger and bigger...

01:37:28.000 Physics.

01:37:28.000 You get different things.

01:37:30.000 What if the guy wrestled in high school?

01:37:33.000 Does that count as being trained?

01:37:34.000 He wrestled one year in high school.

01:37:36.000 You guys love men.

01:37:37.000 You guys fucking love men.

01:37:39.000 What if he took some karate classes when he was in high school?

01:37:43.000 What if he's just a tough guy who fights a bar?

01:37:44.000 I said he never trained.

01:37:45.000 He knows how to kick and punch, but he also does CrossFit and he's 250 fucking pounds.

01:37:50.000 Shredded.

01:37:50.000 Then it gets weird.

01:37:52.000 It does get weird because you're not going to hurt him.

01:37:53.000 What if he's just fighting bars?

01:37:56.000 He's just your local tough guy.

01:37:57.000 I'll put my money on Claudia.

01:37:58.000 I'll put my money on Claudia.

01:38:00.000 God bless you.

01:38:01.000 You might be right.

01:38:03.000 195 pound high school football player.

01:38:07.000 High school football player against Claudia.

01:38:10.000 He might win, but you got to go, shit.

01:38:13.000 You don't know what's going to happen.

01:38:14.000 You might get surprised.

01:38:15.000 You might get surprised.

01:38:17.000 She's going to get this dude's back.

01:38:18.000 I've seen big dudes come in class all the time.

01:38:20.000 They get wrecked by my girls.

01:38:22.000 I see it all the time.

01:38:24.000 I see it.

01:38:25.000 They're doing jiu-jitsu.

01:38:27.000 They're starting in a jiu-jitsu manner.

01:38:29.000 Put that big dude on his feet.

01:38:32.000 That's where it gets weird.

01:38:33.000 If he lands an uppercut, that bitch is going to think she's on another dimension.

01:38:36.000 If he never had a punch at all, and he's a big giant dude...

01:38:39.000 But they've never trained.

01:38:40.000 They've never trained.

01:38:41.000 I think Eddie has a point.

01:38:42.000 I think Eddie has a point.

01:38:43.000 You have a point.

01:38:44.000 99% of the population has never trained.

01:38:46.000 I'm agreeing with Eddie.

01:38:47.000 If they're the same weight...

01:38:49.000 You guys hate chicks.

01:38:50.000 Oh, God.

01:38:51.000 No, Eddie's right.

01:38:52.000 If it's Claudia or if it's Joanna, and they're fighting a 195-pound male who's never trained, the male's going to be in some trouble for a lot of reasons.

01:39:05.000 One, on the ground, he's going to have some trouble.

01:39:07.000 How's she going to take the line?

01:39:10.000 Let's stop the sex thing altogether.

01:39:13.000 Let's just go with the size of humans.

01:39:15.000 If Mighty Mouse has to fight Ray Lewis in his prime, there's a fucking problem.

01:39:21.000 Okay?

01:39:22.000 Mighty Mouse has a fucking giant problem.

01:39:25.000 I put my money on Mighty Mouse.

01:39:27.000 Okay, but Eddie, okay, but let's stop saying this is a male or a female thing.

01:39:31.000 You want to eat a J-Check weighs 10 pounds less than Mighty Mouse.

01:39:34.000 Correct.

01:39:34.000 Okay?

01:39:35.000 And she's a woman.

01:39:36.000 It's not saying that women can't beat the fuck out of men.

01:39:39.000 They absolutely can.

01:39:40.000 But at a certain weight, it becomes weird.

01:39:43.000 And it depends on what kind of athlete you're talking about.

01:39:45.000 It depends on what.

01:39:47.000 It depends.

01:39:47.000 It always depends, yes.

01:39:47.000 If they have any experience in moving their body at all, the key word has to be totally uncalled.

01:39:55.000 What kid grows up with zero knowledge of how to throw a punch?

01:40:01.000 Who the fuck are they?

01:40:03.000 I want to meet these people.

01:40:04.000 Most people can't throw punches.

01:40:06.000 They know how to throw a shitty...

01:40:08.000 They know how to throw a shitty, looping, dog shit punch.

01:40:13.000 But if it lands and you're way smaller than them, you're fucked.

01:40:17.000 If you're a 110 pound accountant and there's a 300 pound Samoan dude that's never sparred a day in his life...

01:40:23.000 Why do you gotta make Samoans?

01:40:24.000 Because they're the strongest!

01:40:26.000 Okay, listen.

01:40:27.000 David Tula, motherfucker!

01:40:29.000 I'm talking about the odds and betting.

01:40:31.000 I'm not saying 100%.

01:40:32.000 I think you're right.

01:40:33.000 You're talking about gambling.

01:40:34.000 Of course a guy can throw.

01:40:36.000 Of course you're never going to bet and go, a million percent I'm going to win.

01:40:39.000 That guy's not going to hit you on it.

01:40:42.000 Yes, if that big dude lands that crazy looping punch that he learned from watching Chuck Norris movies, yes, he will knock him out.

01:40:48.000 But the money, you've got to put the money.

01:40:50.000 The money's on Claudia.

01:40:51.000 Claudia's not going to get hit by an overhand shitty looping shot.

01:40:54.000 She's going to move out of the way.

01:40:55.000 Here's the point.

01:40:56.000 You're going to get that dude's You and I are feminists.

01:41:00.000 You guys are fucking chauvinists.

01:41:01.000 This is the point and this is what we love about MMA. This is the point and what I love about martial arts.

01:41:08.000 You might be right.

01:41:09.000 You might be right.

01:41:11.000 To pretend you know you're right is ridiculous, but you might be right.

01:41:15.000 It's entirely possible that Claudia Gedalia could fuck up Ray Lewis and that they could have a crazy wild scrap Not Ray Lewis.

01:41:23.000 Don't use Ray Lewis.

01:41:23.000 He's just too much of a super athlete.

01:41:24.000 Now you're backing up.

01:41:25.000 He was a state wrestling champion.

01:41:27.000 She catches him in a truck.

01:41:29.000 Why do you have to bring up Ray Lewis?

01:41:30.000 Oh, so they're a good athlete.

01:41:32.000 Why Ray Lewis?

01:41:33.000 Ray Lewis killed two people.

01:41:34.000 Ray Lee Gunn represents the ultimate non-fighting guy.

01:41:38.000 When I think of a guy who's not a fighter, but is just a fucking superior athlete.

01:41:44.000 He's going to do whatever he wants to those girls.

01:41:46.000 I think of Ray Lewis.

01:41:47.000 He's never trained.

01:41:48.000 Because I don't know shit about football, but I've watched Ray Lewis move.

01:41:52.000 I've watched that guy run through people.

01:41:54.000 Most people are not Ray Lewis.

01:41:57.000 That's a small percentage of the population.

01:41:59.000 It's a.01.

01:42:00.000 Hershel Walker!

01:42:01.000 Even less than Ray Lewis!

01:42:03.000 Disaster!

01:42:03.000 Keep him away from me!

01:42:04.000 Disaster!

01:42:05.000 Keep him away from me no matter what you weigh!

01:42:08.000 They're.01 percenters, those guys!

01:42:10.000 Jesus!

01:42:10.000 In every way!

01:42:11.000 Look at him!

01:42:12.000 Just get the fuck out of here!

01:42:13.000 Just get the fuck out of here!

01:42:15.000 Goddamn!

01:42:15.000 If you're Claude Ciccadillo, you've got a huge problem on your hands!

01:42:19.000 We're talking about betting!

01:42:20.000 We're talking about betting!

01:42:21.000 Oh, Eddie, stop!

01:42:22.000 He'll run right at you, Eddie!

01:42:23.000 He'll run right at you!

01:42:24.000 He'll do whatever he wants!

01:42:25.000 Look at that tackle!

01:42:25.000 You die!

01:42:26.000 Look at how he tackled these people!

01:42:28.000 Fuck him up!

01:42:29.000 I don't know what you smoked, Eddie.

01:42:32.000 Ray Lewis?

01:42:33.000 Claudia would fuck up Ray Lewis?

01:42:34.000 Fuck yes!

01:42:35.000 Stop it, dude!

01:42:36.000 I would put my money on Claudia!

01:42:38.000 Here's the match.

01:42:40.000 Here's the match.

01:42:41.000 Here's the match.

01:42:41.000 I would put my money on Claudia.

01:42:42.000 Here's the match.

01:42:43.000 Claudia Gedalia versus Ray Lewis in the middle of a football field.

01:42:47.000 Ray gets a running start.

01:42:49.000 How about the Cyborg versus Ray Lewis?

01:42:51.000 Fuck that story.

01:42:52.000 You want to go with Super Athlete?

01:42:53.000 I'm going with Super Athlete.

01:42:55.000 Who would you put your money on?

01:42:56.000 Ray Lewis versus Ray Lewis?

01:42:57.000 Ray Lewis would smash her on her head like a fake wrestling move.

01:43:01.000 No way!

01:43:01.000 You actually think so?

01:43:03.000 No, maybe.

01:43:03.000 170 pounds.

01:43:04.000 You can't put money on that.

01:43:06.000 175 pounds.

01:43:07.000 I'm going to leave this room.

01:43:08.000 I'm going to leave this room if you think Cyborg beats Ray Lewis.

01:43:11.000 I do.

01:43:12.000 We've got to really stop talking over each other.

01:43:15.000 And we gotta really, like, open up this discussion to more of a give and take, more of a flow.

01:43:21.000 Look at Talos Latis right now.

01:43:22.000 Take a fight break, guys.

01:43:23.000 We're gonna take a fight break.

01:43:24.000 Hold on.

01:43:25.000 Talos Latis has got Chris Camozzi's back.

01:43:27.000 We're taking a fight break, guys.

01:43:28.000 That's bad news for Chris.

01:43:29.000 Yeah.

01:43:30.000 Talos is a world champion in jiu-jitsu.

01:43:31.000 Look, Ray Lewis is a superior athlete.

01:43:34.000 You guys picked He's one of the best players of all time.

01:43:38.000 Well, that's what I'm thinking.

01:43:39.000 I'm thinking of a super explosive...

01:43:40.000 He's the number one non-martial arts guy in history against Claudia.

01:43:44.000 Well, here's the thing.

01:43:44.000 You can't say Herschel Walker.

01:43:46.000 You can't say Herschel Walker because Herschel Walker is an actual martial artist.

01:43:50.000 John Stockton from the Utah Jazz.

01:43:52.000 John Stockton versus Claudia Goodell.

01:43:54.000 John Stockton?

01:43:55.000 Yeah.

01:43:56.000 Fucking wheel kicker in the face.

01:43:58.000 Come on.

01:43:58.000 He's John Stockton!

01:43:59.000 You're gonna put money on John Stockton.

01:44:00.000 He's the most assist ever in the NBA. Yes!

01:44:02.000 You're gonna go with John Stockton.

01:44:04.000 Seriously?

01:44:04.000 Over Claudia Gidea.

01:44:05.000 John's never fought.

01:44:06.000 Oh my God.

01:44:07.000 Fuck both of you two.

01:44:08.000 Claudia Gidea.

01:44:09.000 I'm done.

01:44:09.000 Please, everybody.

01:44:10.000 Claudia Gidea.

01:44:11.000 Brian, you fought taekwondo.

01:44:13.000 You think you can beat Claudia up?

01:44:14.000 You're 170 pounds soaking wet.

01:44:16.000 Her name's Claudia.

01:44:16.000 Who would you put your money on?

01:44:17.000 Can you beat her up?

01:44:18.000 Who would you put your money on, Brian?

01:44:20.000 I mean, I don't want to say anything I love.

01:44:21.000 Because you think you're going to beat her up.

01:44:23.000 And you think you're a better athlete than John Stockton?

01:44:25.000 Guys, we can't talk over each other like this.

01:44:26.000 This is ridiculous.

01:44:27.000 No, but John Stockton's never done anything.

01:44:29.000 He's never wrestled, never thrown a punch.

01:44:31.000 He might have been in bar fights, though.

01:44:32.000 So you think you're doing a few years of taekwondo?

01:44:35.000 It's more than a few years, but keep going.

01:44:36.000 You could beat her up?

01:44:38.000 I never said I could beat up anybody.

01:44:40.000 Stop putting words in my mouth.

01:44:41.000 This is disturbing.

01:44:43.000 I'm asking, okay.

01:44:44.000 If a grown man has never had...

01:44:45.000 I'm asking, can Brian Callen...

01:44:46.000 How the fuck did we go from Ray Lewis to Brian Callen in one job?

01:44:49.000 I love the comparison.

01:44:50.000 Ray Lewis is too easy.

01:44:51.000 Listen, can we get Dean Cain in the mix?

01:44:54.000 Can I get like a mediary?

01:44:56.000 Dean Cain is the bridge!

01:44:57.000 He's the bridge!

01:44:59.000 Dean Cain is a great name.

01:45:01.000 Herschel Walker.

01:45:02.000 He played D1 Walk, Dean Cain.

01:45:03.000 Herschel Walker and you.

01:45:05.000 Dean Cain.

01:45:06.000 Who do you got?

01:45:07.000 That's a great bridge.

01:45:08.000 He's a stud.

01:45:09.000 Mario Lopez versus Claudio.

01:45:11.000 Mario boxes all the time.

01:45:13.000 Oh, okay.

01:45:13.000 Okay.

01:45:14.000 You're right.

01:45:15.000 There's Dean Cain.

01:45:16.000 Yeah, now you might have to have a guy between me and Dean.

01:45:18.000 That's a big bridge.

01:45:19.000 I'm trying to be nice.

01:45:20.000 You're my friend.

01:45:20.000 Thank you.

01:45:20.000 I appreciate that.

01:45:21.000 There's a gang of people.

01:45:23.000 There's a gang of people between you two.

01:45:24.000 There probably is.

01:45:25.000 I hate to say it.

01:45:26.000 What about Jason Statham?

01:45:28.000 He's in between.

01:45:29.000 Versus who?

01:45:30.000 Cyborg?

01:45:30.000 Oh no, Ben Affleck.

01:45:31.000 How about Ben Affleck?

01:45:32.000 Versus who?

01:45:34.000 Rhonda?

01:45:35.000 Versus who?

01:45:37.000 You guys are so serious!

01:45:39.000 What the fuck is going on right now?

01:45:42.000 Oh my god!

01:45:44.000 I'm serious!

01:45:47.000 I've never seen Joe more serious!

01:45:49.000 I guarantee you, I can bring you a gang of bitches that can fuck up Ben Affleck.

01:45:53.000 That's Batman, you motherfucker!

01:45:55.000 Just say jump, motherfucker.

01:45:57.000 That's Batman.

01:45:58.000 I'm making a call.

01:45:59.000 We're going to make some shit happen.

01:46:00.000 Look at him right there.

01:46:00.000 He's telling me.

01:46:01.000 I will get your ass kicked.

01:46:02.000 I've never seen you more yet since in my life.

01:46:04.000 I will get your ass kicked.

01:46:06.000 Hey, Brendan, serious question.

01:46:07.000 Can we let each other talk?

01:46:08.000 This is one of those things where it really does come up.

01:46:11.000 You're talking about the difference between a trained fighter and an actor.

01:46:15.000 Yeah.

01:46:17.000 Who do you put your money on?

01:46:18.000 Ben Affleck or Cyborg?

01:46:20.000 Right now.

01:46:20.000 Oh, Cyborg.

01:46:21.000 Oh, come on.

01:46:21.000 Cyborg.

01:46:22.000 She's a million dollars.

01:46:24.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:46:26.000 Ben Affleck represents the average man.

01:46:29.000 You said Claudia.

01:46:31.000 But he's the average male.

01:46:33.000 Ben Affleck looks athletic.

01:46:36.000 I don't know how much he did in his stunts in Batman.

01:46:38.000 He's a big guy.

01:46:38.000 He can move.

01:46:39.000 He's a big guy.

01:46:40.000 He's a strong guy.

01:46:40.000 I need to say one thing.

01:46:41.000 There's a giant difference between him and a cyborg.

01:46:44.000 Let me ask a question.

01:46:44.000 I want to ask a question.

01:46:45.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:46:46.000 This is to Brennan the MMA fighter.

01:46:47.000 That's Batman and he was in Good Will Hunt.

01:46:49.000 He did do some fighting.

01:46:50.000 Hold on, Brennan.

01:46:51.000 For real.

01:46:51.000 This is a real question.

01:46:53.000 Let's get scientific.

01:46:54.000 You guys ready to get scientific?

01:46:55.000 I'm serious here.

01:46:56.000 Ready?

01:46:57.000 Okay.

01:46:57.000 Brennan.

01:46:58.000 Cyborg at 175 pounds.

01:47:00.000 You put her in the octagon against Ray Lewis.

01:47:02.000 And I'm talking about Ray Lewis when he was playing.

01:47:04.000 Yeah.

01:47:05.000 Okay, now we know Ray Lewis is a freak athlete, one of the greatest football players of all time.

01:47:08.000 State champion wrestler.

01:47:09.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:47:10.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

01:47:11.000 It's a rout.

01:47:11.000 Hold on.

01:47:12.000 Now wait.

01:47:12.000 Wait.

01:47:13.000 Keep going.

01:47:14.000 Explain to me, though, how Ray Lewis deals with Cyborg's striking and her jujitsu.

01:47:20.000 Oh, how about he picks her up and throws her to the fucking moon?

01:47:23.000 Then what?

01:47:24.000 What are you talking about?

01:47:25.000 He can crush her by slamming her to the ground.

01:47:29.000 I'm with you, Brian.

01:47:29.000 He's so big, strong, and powerful.

01:47:31.000 You're going to put your money on him?

01:47:33.000 So check it out.

01:47:34.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:47:36.000 Cyborg?

01:47:36.000 Ray Lewis?

01:47:39.000 Cyborg brawls, right?

01:47:40.000 Let's say Cyborg tags him.

01:47:42.000 Probably not going to knock him out.

01:47:43.000 Sure.

01:47:43.000 He lands one fucking Baltimore punch.

01:47:47.000 Dude, how is he gonna land that punch?

01:47:49.000 Cyborg is a trained striker.

01:47:51.000 She gets hit all the time.

01:47:53.000 She gets hit all the time?

01:47:54.000 Oh, come on.

01:47:54.000 She might slip her dog.

01:47:55.000 It's Ray Lewis!

01:47:56.000 We need a tale of a tape with Cyborg versus Ray Lewis.

01:47:59.000 That's what we need.

01:48:00.000 Put that shit on Instagram.

01:48:01.000 Here's issue number one, okay?

01:48:03.000 We're dealing with almost 100 pounds of difference.

01:48:07.000 Yes, of pure muscle.

01:48:08.000 And a man.

01:48:08.000 Yes.

01:48:09.000 Okay, so we're dealing with a super athlete in Ray Lewis who's a good solid 240 versus a woman who fights at 145 but really is a 145. And he's also a Hall of Famer.

01:48:19.000 Some say the best linebacker of all time in the NFL. But it's all in the debate though.

01:48:21.000 You got people on both sides.

01:48:22.000 You guys are making good points, but we're making good points too.

01:48:25.000 You don't really know.

01:48:26.000 Competitive wrestling experience.

01:48:28.000 Yeah, huge difference.

01:48:29.000 That's a giant difference.

01:48:29.000 I guarantee you, Ray Lewis has beat someone's ass before.

01:48:34.000 He killed a guy!

01:48:35.000 You gotta train to throw punches.

01:48:38.000 One of his friends allegedly was involved in an altercation where a man went to heaven.

01:48:42.000 Guys, guys, guys, guys, wait a minute.

01:48:46.000 Ray Lewis, Ray Lewis, hold on.

01:48:49.000 Ray Lewis could also, he could pick her up, throw her to the ground.

01:48:52.000 Ray Lewis could also start punching her in the face and get armbarred.

01:48:54.000 And we know that you're talking about Ray Lewis' huge arm.

01:48:57.000 Hold on.

01:48:58.000 No, he takes her down.

01:48:59.000 He takes her down.

01:49:00.000 Listen, can he learn about this fight a week before it happens?

01:49:03.000 Yeah, does it just happen in here?

01:49:04.000 The answer to that question, sir, is no.

01:49:07.000 That's an important question.

01:49:08.000 It's very important.

01:49:09.000 When was he aware of the fight?

01:49:10.000 Listen to me.

01:49:12.000 If I could get Michael Irvin...

01:49:14.000 He finds out the game.

01:49:15.000 How old is Michael Irvin now?

01:49:17.000 40-something.

01:49:18.000 If I could just get six weeks with Michael Irvin, any woman in the world that wants to get crazy could step up.

01:49:25.000 No.

01:49:25.000 I agree.

01:49:27.000 100%.

01:49:28.000 You bring him to Farasa, Javi.

01:49:30.000 No training camp.

01:49:31.000 We're not talking about a fucking training camp.

01:49:32.000 You just found out.

01:49:34.000 Ray Lewis.

01:49:34.000 You're talking about training camp?

01:49:36.000 Oh, look at him.

01:49:38.000 He's so serious.

01:49:40.000 He finds out.

01:49:43.000 Day of.

01:49:44.000 And then you fight.

01:49:46.000 Cyborg versus Ray Lewis.

01:49:47.000 My money would be on Ray Lewis 100% of the time.

01:49:49.000 Amazing.

01:49:50.000 I'm shocked.

01:49:51.000 I'm standing here shocked.

01:49:53.000 With my jaw on the fucking floor.

01:49:55.000 Do you not watch football?

01:49:56.000 Okay, but let me tell you this.

01:49:57.000 I got my money on Cyborg 100% 100 times in a row against Ben Affleck.

01:50:02.000 Yeah!

01:50:03.000 Yes!

01:50:04.000 Big difference!

01:50:05.000 Bet the house on the Brazilian gal!

01:50:08.000 100%.

01:50:08.000 All in!

01:50:09.000 100%.

01:50:10.000 All in!

01:50:11.000 100%.

01:50:11.000 You put money on Ray Lewis, though?

01:50:14.000 Ray Lewis is so much bigger, and I think he probably knows how to fight.

01:50:18.000 He's not totally unskilled.

01:50:21.000 Listen, you think she can stop the shot?

01:50:24.000 Do you think she can stop the shot?

01:50:26.000 No, no.

01:50:26.000 Ray Lewis is a bad example.

01:50:27.000 How are you gonna stop the shot of a state champion wrestler's 1040 pounds?

01:50:30.000 That bitch is gonna fucking kneel when he comes in.

01:50:32.000 Ray Lewis is a bad example.

01:50:32.000 He's just too good.

01:50:33.000 He's a bad example.

01:50:33.000 He's just too good.

01:50:33.000 This ain't the Super Bowl!

01:50:35.000 This ain't the Super Bowl!

01:50:38.000 This ain't the Super Bowl!

01:50:39.000 This ain't the Super Bowl!

01:50:41.000 Ray Lewis is a bad example.

01:50:43.000 He's just such a freak athlete.

01:50:44.000 Yeah, it's a bad example.

01:50:46.000 This is the greatest event of all time!

01:50:49.000 This is the greatest event in the universe!

01:50:52.000 Here's a huge X Factor.

01:50:54.000 If you saw it in this bitch, because then they're both juiced to the gills.

01:50:58.000 Hey, Cyborg's looking like...

01:50:59.000 She's looking very natural.

01:51:03.000 She's looking very natural.

01:51:04.000 In what world?

01:51:07.000 She's been tested as much as anybody.

01:51:09.000 She's 100% clean now.

01:51:12.000 She's not crazy yoked no more.

01:51:14.000 Could Cyborg get behind Ray Lewis like this?

01:51:16.000 Absolutely not, sir.

01:51:17.000 Why not?

01:51:18.000 Because we live in the real world.

01:51:20.000 But he doesn't have to stop that.

01:51:21.000 Do you understand the difference between you, Brian, just you?

01:51:26.000 You and Ray Lewis.

01:51:28.000 Ray Lewis would probably fuck me up.

01:51:30.000 Can you imagine?

01:51:30.000 Not in real fight, Brennan.

01:51:32.000 Ray Lewis would give me some problems.

01:51:33.000 No, that's not true.

01:51:34.000 You would kill him.

01:51:34.000 I don't think so.

01:51:35.000 You would stop him in less than a minute.

01:51:36.000 I don't think so.

01:51:37.000 And I'm going to tell you why.

01:51:38.000 If he'd never trained, you would choke him to death.

01:51:40.000 But we know he's trained.

01:51:42.000 While Ray did some wrestling, Brennan would kill him.

01:51:45.000 Somebody showed Ray Lewis how to choke people.

01:51:47.000 No training camp!

01:51:48.000 But hold up, hold up.

01:51:50.000 You can't have a training camp!

01:51:52.000 But let's be realistic.

01:51:53.000 You don't think someone has shown Ray Lewis how to choke people to sleep?

01:51:56.000 How do I hold it like this?

01:51:58.000 Yeah, you're probably right.

01:51:58.000 And like this here?

01:51:59.000 You might be right.

01:52:00.000 Oh, you mean just do this?

01:52:01.000 I'm the captain of the fucking defense, which is complicated as fuck?

01:52:05.000 I just do this?

01:52:06.000 Oh, it's that easy?

01:52:07.000 Oh, it's that easy?

01:52:08.000 Oh, here we go.

01:52:09.000 It's that easy?

01:52:10.000 It's definitely not that easy.

01:52:11.000 It ain't that fucking easy.

01:52:12.000 I got super athletes coming in all the time.

01:52:14.000 They don't know shit.

01:52:15.000 Eddie, hold on.

01:52:15.000 He's a smart guy.

01:52:16.000 He's a state champion wrestler.

01:52:17.000 He's also a smart guy.

01:52:18.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

01:52:20.000 If you're the captain of a defense team, he was explaining to me how intricate football is.

01:52:23.000 You gotta have a brain.

01:52:24.000 That dude is smart as shit.

01:52:25.000 Okay, Ray Lewis is a bad motherfucker.

01:52:27.000 Make no mistake about it.

01:52:28.000 Maybe the best.

01:52:30.000 He ain't gonna learn no fucking rear naked.

01:52:32.000 He's not gonna be rear naked.

01:52:33.000 He doesn't need to.

01:52:34.000 You guys are not being respectful at MMA. I'm disgusted.

01:52:37.000 Not until maybe five months into jiu-jitsu.

01:52:40.000 Oh, shit.

01:52:41.000 Kamozi with the right hand.

01:52:42.000 Kamozi with the right hand.

01:52:43.000 Kamozi is so tough.

01:52:43.000 We got a scrap.

01:52:45.000 Kamozi is so tough.

01:52:46.000 Fuck you and Ray Lewis.

01:52:48.000 This is way better.

01:52:49.000 One of the things I like the most about Kamozi is he maintains a steady pace through the entire fight.

01:52:54.000 Look at this.

01:52:55.000 If he chokes him out...

01:52:58.000 His pace just destroys people.

01:53:00.000 Eddie Bravo just went to the bathroom.

01:53:01.000 Let's talk shit about him.

01:53:03.000 That motherfucker's on one tonight!

01:53:05.000 Oh my god!

01:53:06.000 That motherfucker's on one!

01:53:08.000 He's so passionate.

01:53:10.000 Super passionate.

01:53:12.000 And you know what?

01:53:12.000 I think the moral of the story tonight?

01:53:14.000 Eddie needs to have more kids.

01:53:16.000 He needs to adopt some little African kids.

01:53:18.000 Well, it's beautiful.

01:53:19.000 I love hearing that.

01:53:20.000 Yeah, it was.

01:53:20.000 I love hearing that.

01:53:21.000 Yeah, all 20 minutes.

01:53:22.000 I love hearing that.

01:53:23.000 He got a little crazy.

01:53:25.000 All 20 minutes.

01:53:26.000 I got a little crazy for a while.

01:53:26.000 No, I got it in the first two minutes.

01:53:28.000 It was just sweet, though.

01:53:29.000 There was no way it was going to end.

01:53:31.000 I tried even jumping in.

01:53:33.000 Listen, man, he's a passionate guy.

01:53:35.000 What he is saying is what is on his mind, and he's so overwhelmed with it.

01:53:40.000 But that's why he's so great at everything he does.

01:53:42.000 He's also right, though.

01:53:43.000 Eddie gets obsessed with things.

01:53:44.000 He is right.

01:53:44.000 He's also right.

01:53:45.000 There's nothing better than kids.

01:53:46.000 Eddie gets obsessed with things, and it's why he's this jujitsu...

01:53:52.000 Phenom.

01:53:52.000 Phenom, yes.

01:53:52.000 I mean, that's really what it is.

01:53:54.000 And his mind works like that with everything.

01:53:55.000 And it's working like that with parenthood, too, which is a beautiful thing to see.

01:53:59.000 If you're not obsessed with your kid, though, you kind of suck.

01:54:02.000 A lot of people aren't.

01:54:03.000 It's uncomfortable, for sure, to think that there's people out there that don't care, and they don't love people that are with them, and they don't love their families.

01:54:11.000 Brian said, oh, a lot of people aren't, Brandon.

01:54:13.000 That's not fair.

01:54:14.000 Hey, bro.

01:54:14.000 I didn't say anything.

01:54:16.000 A lot of people aren't.

01:54:17.000 I said it twice, too.

01:54:18.000 In a really weird way, like in a movie, I went, a lot of people aren't, Brandon.

01:54:21.000 A lot of people aren't.

01:54:22.000 You're too young, Brandon.

01:54:23.000 When you say something twice, it's always kind of like one of those things.

01:54:26.000 Watch this.

01:54:28.000 Hashtag shitty dick.

01:54:29.000 No, it means something else.

01:54:30.000 So you can say, watch this.

01:54:31.000 Ready?

01:54:31.000 Watch this.

01:54:32.000 Joe Rogan's a strong...

01:54:33.000 No, wait.

01:54:33.000 Hold on.

01:54:34.000 Joe Rogan's a strong guy.

01:54:36.000 He's a strong guy.

01:54:38.000 Yeah, there's a way to, like, you can sarcastically...

01:54:42.000 Or it adds something else.

01:54:44.000 Yeah, you can do a lot of different things if you say it twice.

01:54:47.000 It means you're dead serious is what I thought.

01:54:47.000 Sometimes it's dead serious if you, like, overemphasize a second time, you know?

01:54:52.000 If you're like, Conor McGregor is a bad motherfucker, dude.

01:54:54.000 Conor McGregor is a bad motherfucker.

01:54:57.000 Yes.

01:54:58.000 Now, hold on.

01:55:00.000 Here's an acting job.

01:55:01.000 Can you say it three times and change the third time's meaning?

01:55:06.000 Like, what do you mean?

01:55:07.000 I don't know.

01:55:07.000 Conor McGregor's a bad motherfucker.

01:55:08.000 That motherfucker is bad.

01:55:10.000 That motherfucker is bad!

01:55:12.000 You see, it just boom, boom, boom.

01:55:14.000 But you got super, like, black.

01:55:16.000 Well, no, that's how I talk.

01:55:17.000 I'm from Aurora.

01:55:18.000 That's what we do.

01:55:19.000 Yeah.

01:55:19.000 Remember when Kimbo Slice asked you if you were black?

01:55:23.000 That's like one of my favorite stories from this podcast.

01:55:26.000 Kimbo Slate thought that he was black.

01:55:28.000 They had heard that there was a guy on the podcast, or on the podcast, on the Ultimate Fighter.

01:55:33.000 Oh shit, Talos Slate does has Kamozi.

01:55:35.000 He taps.

01:55:36.000 Shit.

01:55:37.000 Damn.

01:55:38.000 Talos' jiu-jitsu is legit as fuck.

01:55:40.000 Hell yeah.

01:55:40.000 Poor Kamozi, he gets jacaray twice and then like a thousand ladies.

01:55:44.000 That's a big win for Talos Latis.

01:55:47.000 Yeah.

01:55:48.000 I haven't seen him in a long time.

01:55:50.000 Oh, so there was a guy on The Ultimate Fighter that was possibly a Nazi.

01:55:54.000 He went full rogue racist.

01:55:55.000 And they got together and they were all talking about it and they went to Brendan.

01:56:00.000 Because they said, you know, they thought that Brendan was black.

01:56:03.000 And Brendan's like, dude, I'm not black.

01:56:04.000 He's like, you ain't black.

01:56:05.000 And Kimbo said, what did he say?

01:56:07.000 He goes, that's why I like Brendan.

01:56:08.000 That's why I like Sean.

01:56:09.000 I can't tell what the fuck he is.

01:56:12.000 That's hysterical.

01:56:14.000 It was the best.

01:56:15.000 That's hysterical.

01:56:17.000 Talos Latis always had a nasty rear naked choke.

01:56:20.000 Talos Latis always had a nasty choke.

01:56:23.000 He always had a nasty choke.

01:56:25.000 You know what?

01:56:26.000 If he would have held that in for 30 more seconds, he would have turned him into a vegetable.

01:56:30.000 Good chance.

01:56:31.000 That's why there's refs there, Eddie.

01:56:32.000 Dude, there's a play, a sick play called The Toyer, and it's about this guy who has been coming into women's houses, and he sticks a needle in their back that causes them to become vegetables, like you're talking about, and then he dresses them up like dolls.

01:56:47.000 Eddie, look up there.

01:56:48.000 Oh no.

01:56:49.000 That is so ridiculous.

01:56:52.000 That's awful.

01:56:53.000 Did you make up Jamie?

01:56:54.000 Did you make up Jamie?

01:56:57.000 Jamie, well done.

01:56:59.000 Jamie, that is so ridiculous.

01:57:01.000 That's amazing.

01:57:02.000 Look at fucking Callen's face.

01:57:04.000 Can you Photoshop Ray Lewis in full football gear like tackling somebody in the octagon with cyborg knee in him in the face and it says, this ain't the Super Bowl, bitch?

01:57:13.000 No.

01:57:14.000 That's a lot of work.

01:57:15.000 That was a lot of shit.

01:57:17.000 If that's too hard, I apologize.

01:57:18.000 Send that to Photoshop Steve.

01:57:19.000 They're already doing it right now.

01:57:21.000 Their people are doing it right now.

01:57:22.000 When you get out of here, you're going to have 40 of them.

01:57:25.000 Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan.

01:57:26.000 If that's too much, I apologize.

01:57:27.000 Joe Rogan, I'm not going to give you a pic.

01:57:29.000 Just disregard that request.

01:57:30.000 Nate Diaz, Conor McGregor 2, what's your call?

01:57:33.000 They didn't give a call.

01:57:34.000 I don't ever give a call.

01:57:35.000 I know that.

01:57:35.000 I'm being dramatic.

01:57:36.000 Listen, man.

01:57:37.000 Nate Diaz has a full camp, but he also has all that goddamn press.

01:57:40.000 He's also got all that pressure, and Conor has an opportunity to prepare exclusively just for him.

01:57:47.000 And it's not like he didn't have some success in the first fight.

01:57:50.000 A lot of success.

01:57:50.000 Because he pretty much dominated the first round.

01:57:52.000 He looked beautiful, but the problem was he tried to...

01:57:56.000 He used those one-hitter-quitter punches.

01:57:58.000 He tried to just crack them and drop them.

01:58:01.000 And Nate is a bigger, stronger man than most of the people that Connors fought.

01:58:06.000 And he knows how to absorb punches.

01:58:08.000 And he sparred with a lot of world-class boxers like Andre Ward.

01:58:13.000 Who's fighting right now.

01:58:13.000 Who's fighting tonight.

01:58:14.000 Don't tell me the results.

01:58:15.000 I don't know the results.

01:58:16.000 I'm not touching my phone until I get back.

01:58:18.000 Me neither.

01:58:18.000 Me too.

01:58:19.000 You guys are crazy.

01:58:20.000 I love Andre Ward.

01:58:21.000 He's one of my favorite fighters.

01:58:22.000 He's awesome.

01:58:22.000 He's so fucking smart.

01:58:23.000 That's what I like about Andre Ward.

01:58:24.000 Top three, pound for pound.

01:58:25.000 Damn.

01:58:26.000 He's so goddamn smart.

01:58:27.000 When he breaks down boxing, like when he does the analyst position on HBO, you realize, like, oh, okay, this dude is just a super smart guy.

01:58:36.000 Undefeated gold medalist.

01:58:37.000 He's a monster.

01:58:38.000 Gold medalist in the Olympics?

01:58:39.000 Yes.

01:58:40.000 Yeah.

01:58:40.000 You know what?

01:58:41.000 I was talking about him.

01:58:42.000 Was there an Andre Ward that was a different Andre Ward?

01:58:45.000 No.

01:58:46.000 Or is that football?

01:58:47.000 No, no, no.

01:58:47.000 Because I'm thinking Andre Ward's like...

01:58:48.000 Andre Ward played for the Lions.

01:58:50.000 You're right.

01:58:51.000 That's what I'm...

01:58:51.000 There's a boxer now.

01:58:53.000 Yes.

01:58:54.000 He's the best boxer in the world.

01:58:55.000 When you say underwear boxer, I'm like, is that guy like 45 now and fighting like Bernard?

01:59:00.000 The Ward you're talking about played for the Detroit Lions.

01:59:02.000 Yes.

01:59:03.000 Good call, Eddie.

01:59:04.000 I had a conversation with Andre Berto, who's in his camp.

01:59:08.000 That's a retarded call, actually.

01:59:09.000 I got confused.

01:59:10.000 I'm sorry.

01:59:11.000 Go ahead.

01:59:12.000 So I had this conversation with Andre Berto about Andre Ward.

01:59:17.000 Because they're in the same camp and they're buddies.

01:59:19.000 They came up together.

01:59:19.000 And he was telling me that he learned a lot just watching Andre Ward.

01:59:23.000 The way Virgil Hunter has him do it, if you watch him warm up, he'll do things.

01:59:28.000 He's so technical where he...

01:59:31.000 Like, literally, he won't throw punches when he shadowboxes.

01:59:34.000 He spends a lot of time literally just doing the perfect kind of hooks.

01:59:39.000 Like, everything is...

01:59:40.000 Like, he's obsessed with...

01:59:42.000 For people who are not watching you, you're doing everything super slow in the air.

01:59:44.000 And shadowboxing.

01:59:45.000 Everything.

01:59:46.000 He's obsessed with perfect technique.

01:59:48.000 Like, every detail.

01:59:50.000 Where his feet are.

01:59:51.000 And he always does that.

01:59:52.000 And he obsesses over exactly where his body's going to be in almost slow motion for a long time.

01:59:59.000 And then he'll start doing things.

02:00:01.000 Well, I didn't know.

02:00:02.000 Fundamentals.

02:00:02.000 When I was a kid, I used to think that forms were stupid, and I used to think that, like, even throwing kicks in the air couldn't compare to doing things like throwing kicks in the bag.

02:00:11.000 And then, like, a lot of the decorative aspects of martial arts, like, you know, you throw a sidekick and you hold it up there, and then you throw a second sidekick, and then you do all these different combinations that you'd have to do in these forms.

02:00:20.000 I think they're stupid.

02:00:21.000 But now I understand that it's almost like you're doing, like, a form of yoga.

02:00:26.000 Yes.

02:00:26.000 But you're throwing those kicks out there and you're holding them in place.

02:00:29.000 And even though that's not how you would ever fight, these are all important movements if you could figure out how to do that and make it beautiful.

02:00:36.000 The muscle memory.

02:00:37.000 And make that flow.

02:00:37.000 Well, also body control.

02:00:39.000 Yeah, body control.

02:00:40.000 Body control.

02:00:41.000 Yeah.

02:00:41.000 Jamie, bring up Andre Ward.

02:00:44.000 But for sidekicks, that is one of the most important aspects of throwing a sidekick is throwing it in the air.

02:00:50.000 Learning how to throw it in the air where your body is moving forward.

02:00:54.000 Because if you use a bag prematurely, you grow accustomed to bouncing off of it.

02:01:00.000 And that's the difference between someone who bounces off of that technique and drives through it.

02:01:05.000 And the person who drives through it, when they drive with their hip, there's so much more power.

02:01:10.000 And it takes the same amount of time.

02:01:12.000 There's no difference in the amount of time.

02:01:13.000 But the amount of force that someone who knows how to really drive their hip forward, you develop that.

02:01:19.000 A lot of it is by kicking the air.

02:01:21.000 Because you snap.

02:01:22.000 And you extend that side kick out, and you pull it back, and you snap.

02:01:25.000 And it's all about doing it as fast as you can.

02:01:28.000 And then, once you develop the technique perfectly, then you start moving to kicking things.

02:01:32.000 Usually it's a person with a cushion that moves towards you slowly, or it's a really light bag, and you slowly develop your ability to move your weight into it.

02:01:41.000 But if you don't do it right, you can develop this one aspect of that kick that most people have, which is they kick off of people.

02:01:48.000 They kick them and they push off.

02:01:50.000 That's right.

02:01:50.000 The woman who's responsible for the Russian Revolution in tennis, like she came up with Sharapova and all these amazing tennis players.

02:02:02.000 She will have her students in a group, before they even hit a ball, just slowly, you know, literally just practicing their stroke in a really slow manner.

02:02:14.000 It's the same exact thing.

02:02:17.000 I think their first two weeks of camp is all basics and super slow like that.

02:02:21.000 Jamie, bring up Andre Ward shadow boxing, warming up.

02:02:24.000 It's really wild to watch.

02:02:26.000 Don't bring up it going on right now, though.

02:02:28.000 It is really interesting, man.

02:02:30.000 It is really interesting, the idea of what is the best way to learn how to execute certain techniques.

02:02:37.000 You know, there's always a lot of debate about it, man.

02:02:41.000 There's a lot of debate about how much sparring you should do versus how much, you know, simulation drills you should do versus how much bag work you should do.

02:02:49.000 Well, and this might be it.

02:02:50.000 I don't know if this is the one.

02:02:51.000 People are watching him right now.

02:02:53.000 There's another one where he's, yeah, he's being watched right now, so he's going to go faster.

02:02:57.000 Well, he's just doing regular shadow watching there.

02:02:59.000 But he might not, man.

02:03:00.000 I mean, he doesn't give a fuck.

02:03:01.000 Bring up the other one.

02:03:02.000 Bring up the other one where he's, you'll see it even more slow.

02:03:05.000 How nuts is that fight going to be?

02:03:06.000 Holy shit.

02:03:07.000 Shit.

02:03:08.000 Look at how specific he is, though.

02:03:09.000 I'm interested in, I don't want to know who won tonight, but if Andre Ward wins, I'm very interested in him versus Kovalev.

02:03:16.000 That's the plan.

02:03:17.000 It's for sure.

02:03:18.000 Kovalev has a fight, Ward has a fight, and the next is Kovalev.

02:03:21.000 Very interested in that fight.

02:03:22.000 God, I tell you what, man.

02:03:24.000 If I had to put my money on someone right now, it's Kovalev.

02:03:27.000 Kovalev is scary.

02:03:29.000 He killed a guy.

02:03:30.000 He did and you know what I was really most impressed was when he outboxed Bernard Hopkins.

02:03:35.000 See what he's doing right there?

02:03:36.000 See what he's doing?

02:03:36.000 Look at this.

02:03:37.000 He was boxing him up.

02:03:39.000 See what he's doing?

02:03:39.000 He's going pretty fast, Brian.

02:03:40.000 I don't see it yet, buddy.

02:03:41.000 No, he's trying.

02:03:44.000 Some of it was slow.

02:03:45.000 Yeah, no, it's super slow.

02:03:46.000 There we go.

02:03:46.000 Now he's speeding up.

02:03:48.000 That is the most impressive shadow boxing I've ever seen.

02:03:51.000 He's awesome.

02:03:52.000 He's so good.

02:03:53.000 It's interesting because he's throwing those punches with power.

02:03:56.000 You can tell in the snap.

02:03:57.000 It's all...

02:03:58.000 It's perfect.

02:03:59.000 It's Andre Ward for God's sake.

02:04:01.000 That's Kata.

02:04:01.000 People talk shit on Kata.

02:04:03.000 Oh, you won a Forum's gold medal?

02:04:04.000 People talk shit on Kata for so long.

02:04:07.000 This is just Kata.

02:04:08.000 Yeah, it might be even better even than Kata.

02:04:10.000 You know, what's interesting when you watch a guy like him do that, as opposed to that Russian gentleman that we were seeing earlier that's learning how to box, that's where you see the difference.

02:04:17.000 We're talking about best in the world versus the guy who just learned last week.

02:04:20.000 But those movements, they're not unattainable.

02:04:23.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:04:24.000 It's like if you're watching someone do a move, right?

02:04:28.000 Like, say, if they're choreographing Michael Jackson's Thriller, all the zombies are doing it.

02:04:34.000 That was like a choreographed thing, right?

02:04:36.000 So the idea is that there's similar movement.

02:04:38.000 Everybody has similar movement.

02:04:40.000 Like, that movement that he's doing is not unattainable.

02:04:43.000 What he's doing is things that everyone can do.

02:04:45.000 They just can't do it the way he's doing it.

02:04:47.000 He's just done it 10,000 times.

02:04:48.000 But what makes it so special...

02:04:51.000 Nothing he's doing is crazy, acrobatic, ridiculous movements that the average person can't do.

02:04:56.000 Like Javier Rodriguez, who we're gonna watch fight tonight.

02:04:59.000 This fucking dude does wild shit.

02:05:02.000 Flying kneebars, fucking wheel kicks.

02:05:04.000 Flying round kicks and jumping double round kicks.

02:05:07.000 He's fun.

02:05:08.000 He's ridiculously athletic.

02:05:09.000 Is he a capoeira guy?

02:05:10.000 No, he's a Taekwondo guy.

02:05:11.000 Mexican dude.

02:05:12.000 Holy shit.

02:05:13.000 He's a regular Mexican guy?

02:05:14.000 I thought he was Brazilian.

02:05:15.000 Mexican as fuck.

02:05:16.000 No, Mexican as fuck.

02:05:18.000 Oh shit!

02:05:19.000 So what he's gonna do, the big difference is, what he's gonna do is shit that we can't do.

02:05:25.000 Like, you look at him throwing those kicks, you're like, fuck!

02:05:28.000 Like, look at this crazy guy!

02:05:29.000 Like, he's jumping, spinning cartwheels through the air and roundhouse kicking dudes in the back and the neck.

02:05:35.000 Yeah, that ain't for everybody.

02:05:36.000 It's not for everybody.

02:05:37.000 No, I think it is for everybody, just most people have never gone that far with the reps.

02:05:43.000 Also, some people aren't explosive enough.

02:05:45.000 It's not like Cirque du Soleil stuff.

02:05:47.000 What he's doing, it takes some genetic capabilities.

02:05:50.000 It's not genetic.

02:05:51.000 My point is that no one...

02:05:53.000 It's not genetic.

02:05:53.000 He's Mexican.

02:05:54.000 Come on.

02:05:54.000 It's not genetic.

02:05:55.000 My point is that no one has a problem doing this or this or this or this.

02:06:01.000 No one has a problem throwing a normal punch at a very slow pace.

02:06:05.000 But you can't even do what he's doing like those cartwheel kicks.

02:06:09.000 You can't even do that slowly.

02:06:10.000 You can't move the way he's moving.

02:06:12.000 So the difference between what a guy like Yair can do and a guy like Andre Ward can do, in a way, it makes what Andre Ward can do even more impressive.

02:06:20.000 Way more impressive.

02:06:20.000 Because he's boxing guys up, and he's doing it based on his understanding of each different position that might come up while two guys are trying to punch each other in the face.

02:06:29.000 And also the basics.

02:06:30.000 Yeah.

02:06:30.000 Super solid.

02:06:31.000 But those basics, I could teach my daughter to do.

02:06:36.000 If she just listened to me and moved slowly.

02:06:39.000 I'm not saying that someone could punch someone or hurt someone immediately, but I think you could take a 60-year-old executive who's never thrown a punch in his life, and you have him stand there, just make him listen to you, make him put his foot here, lower your weight, lower your weight, okay, square your shoulders, hands up right where your cheekbones are,

02:06:55.000 and just do this.

02:06:56.000 I just want you to do this.

02:06:57.000 Now do this.

02:06:57.000 Okay, now try to get the same guy to do a wheel kick.

02:07:00.000 Yeah.

02:07:01.000 Like, you can't do that.

02:07:01.000 He's gonna blow his asshole out.

02:07:03.000 So what Yair Kuhn Rodriguez would do is, in one way, more impressive, because he can do physical shit that most people can't do, but another way it makes what Andre Ward does more impressive.

02:07:12.000 Because Andre Ward is way better than everybody else at just doing shit that everybody can do.

02:07:17.000 Yes, that's true.

02:07:17.000 Because I think actually, what you're saying, what you're actually saying is that Punching is more anatomically natural, I think, to a human being walking around than is kicking.

02:07:29.000 Kicking is really hard.

02:07:31.000 Like, understanding a really good sidekick or a roundhouse or a wheel kick.

02:07:34.000 It's not natural.

02:07:35.000 It's not natural.

02:07:37.000 But it's like everything else.

02:07:38.000 Even though punching is easy to attain, you can drill it into someone over and over and over and they can reach that razor-sharp level of proficiency where an Andrzej Ward or a Kovalev is.

02:07:48.000 Yeah.

02:07:49.000 Which I can't wait to see that fight, by the way.

02:07:52.000 It's the best fight of the year.

02:07:53.000 All the most acrobatical Taekwondo kicks that you could do in the cage.

02:08:00.000 There's some acrobatical Taekwondo stuff that's Cirque du Soleil stuff when you have those forms and dudes will start like fucking they'll spin like fuck!

02:08:09.000 That shit you'll never do, but maybe you will one day.

02:08:13.000 A lot of guys can't do it, though, because they're not athletic enough.

02:08:16.000 They don't have the vertical, they don't have the genetics.

02:08:17.000 That's the super crazy shit.

02:08:20.000 If you could do it in the cage, anybody could do it.

02:08:23.000 But listen, Michael Page did a 360 roundhouse kick in Bellator.

02:08:29.000 He knocks some dude out with a 360 roundhouse kick in the face.

02:08:32.000 He's a freak.

02:08:32.000 He jumps spinning 360 roundhouse kick like he was a fucking dude in a video game.

02:08:37.000 Can I see that?

02:08:39.000 He's the same guy that broke Cyborg's face.

02:08:41.000 I love that dude.

02:08:42.000 Oh, he's so good.

02:08:43.000 Michael fucking paid.

02:08:44.000 Venom paid.

02:08:45.000 He's fun to watch, man.

02:08:46.000 I barely watch Pelotor, but I remember him.

02:08:49.000 He's the breakout star of Bellator.

02:08:51.000 They need to just keep feeding him.

02:08:53.000 Him and Chandler.

02:08:53.000 He's their wonder boy.

02:08:54.000 People don't know how good Chandler is either.

02:08:56.000 Well, Chandler beat Eddie Alvarez.

02:08:57.000 He's the UFC champ.

02:08:58.000 He didn't just beat Eddie Alvarez.

02:08:59.000 You see the way he knocked out Pitbull in his last fight?

02:09:01.000 No, Michael Chandler's a fucking monster.

02:09:03.000 Dude, Bellator vs.

02:09:04.000 UFC might be cool.

02:09:05.000 Chandler and Michael Venom Page.

02:09:07.000 It's possible.

02:09:08.000 Look, I would love that.

02:09:09.000 Wait, what did Eddie say?

02:09:10.000 Sorry, I missed it.

02:09:10.000 Bellator versus UFC could happen.

02:09:12.000 Why the fuck would UFC do that?

02:09:13.000 I would, listen, man.

02:09:14.000 Why not?

02:09:15.000 Get crazy.

02:09:15.000 Why would the UFC do that?

02:09:16.000 The new owners.

02:09:17.000 Is that going to ruin the UFC? Would that ruin the new owners?

02:09:20.000 No, it's going to ruin Bellator, but UFC would have no reason to do it.

02:09:22.000 Listen, man, I don't think it's ruining anybody.

02:09:24.000 I don't think it would be a bad idea.

02:09:26.000 It makes no sense.

02:09:27.000 I think there might be money in it.

02:09:28.000 I think there might be money in it.

02:09:29.000 Watch this.

02:09:30.000 Look at this.

02:09:31.000 Watch this.

02:09:31.000 Watch Paige.

02:09:32.000 He backs up.

02:09:33.000 Here it comes.

02:09:34.000 Check this shit out.

02:09:35.000 He got him hurt.

02:09:37.000 Boom!

02:09:39.000 Oh, shit.

02:09:40.000 He just stands there.

02:09:43.000 You do that all the time.

02:09:44.000 Dude, he just stands there.

02:09:45.000 What?

02:09:46.000 He's a monster.

02:09:47.000 That's a great way to win.

02:09:48.000 That takes a lot of practice.

02:09:49.000 That's a great way to win.

02:09:50.000 You can't just do that.

02:09:51.000 They're being smart with him, too.

02:09:53.000 They're being super smart with him, which they should be.

02:09:55.000 He's their star, man.

02:09:56.000 And he speaks well.

02:09:58.000 He's a character.

02:09:59.000 He's awesome.

02:10:00.000 Is he 170 or 55?

02:10:02.000 70. Damn.

02:10:03.000 I want to see that guy fight like world-class fighters.

02:10:06.000 I want to see that guy fight a really good wrestler.

02:10:08.000 Oh no, he just got caught in that.

02:10:09.000 Robbie Lawler.

02:10:10.000 Look, if Bellator, if the UFC's not going to sign Ben Askren, Bellator, sign Ben Askren.

02:10:17.000 Ben Askren mops the floor with him.

02:10:18.000 I know that people have a problem with a guy who can just take everybody down.

02:10:23.000 That's the Andre Ward thing.

02:10:25.000 That's the Andre Ward thing, though.

02:10:26.000 Ben Askren's the best at the bit.

02:10:28.000 You know exactly what the fuck he's gonna do.

02:10:30.000 But he still does it anyway.

02:10:31.000 You cannot stop him.

02:10:31.000 He's the best in the world.

02:10:32.000 Is he knocking everybody out?

02:10:33.000 Is he knocking everybody out?

02:10:33.000 He's knocking some people out in one FC because they let him use knees in the ground.

02:10:37.000 And he can use knees in the ground now with the new rules.

02:10:39.000 Ben Askren gets way more dangerous.

02:10:41.000 Ben Askren mops the floor with anyone in Belgium.

02:10:44.000 Yeah, I'm talking about Andre Ward.

02:10:44.000 Is he knocking everybody out?

02:10:45.000 Oh, he knocks a lot of guns out.

02:10:47.000 He's a knockout artist.

02:10:49.000 He's a knockout artist.

02:10:50.000 And he's at light heavyweight now.

02:10:51.000 He's not like a Pernod Whitaker.

02:10:52.000 No, no, no.

02:10:52.000 You guys might want to watch this fight.

02:10:54.000 And Honey Jason is throwing down.

02:10:56.000 Watch Samir Minis.

02:10:57.000 He's doing his front kicks to his body.

02:10:59.000 That's a young Roberto Duran right there.

02:11:01.000 He's rough.

02:11:02.000 Roberto Duran was never that thick.

02:11:04.000 It's a good call.

02:11:04.000 No, he wasn't.

02:11:05.000 But Duran is a great...

02:11:07.000 They made a movie about Roberto Duran.

02:11:10.000 How crazy is that?

02:11:11.000 Did you know they made a movie about Vinny Pazienza?

02:11:13.000 Have you seen that ad?

02:11:14.000 I want to see that.

02:11:15.000 Yeah, they made a movie about Pazienza.

02:11:17.000 Broke his neck in a car accident, came back and fought.

02:11:20.000 What are you, watching trailers all day?

02:11:21.000 Now I don't need to see the fucking movie.

02:11:24.000 I love Pazienza.

02:11:25.000 Spoiler alert.

02:11:26.000 Spoiler alert.

02:11:27.000 Guy breaks his neck.

02:11:28.000 Well, no, he did it in real life, you bastards.

02:11:30.000 Look at Dennis Bermudez.

02:11:32.000 He's just crushing him.

02:11:33.000 He's a fucking monster.

02:11:34.000 He won like seven in a row, remember that?

02:11:36.000 Then lost.

02:11:36.000 I met Pazienza in Vegas once, and he was wearing this beautiful suit with a bandana that was made out of the same material that he was made of.

02:11:45.000 Oh, he's awesome.

02:11:45.000 You're fucking right.

02:11:46.000 He looked beautiful.

02:11:47.000 He looked beautiful.

02:11:50.000 Pazienza's a badass.

02:11:51.000 He's a badass Italian guy.

02:11:53.000 I fucking love him.

02:11:55.000 I went to see that guy fight.

02:11:56.000 I paid to see him fight a couple of times.

02:11:59.000 Me and my friend Jimmy Lawless, we went to Providence, Rhode Island to watch him fight.

02:12:03.000 Just a brawler.

02:12:04.000 Did you see Lawless?

02:12:05.000 Jimmy Lawless.

02:12:06.000 That's his name.

02:12:06.000 Is he related to Blackie Lawless?

02:12:09.000 Blackie Lawless?

02:12:09.000 From Wasp?

02:12:10.000 I asked Boom Boom Mancini.

02:12:12.000 That's his real name, though.

02:12:13.000 Jimmy Lawless.

02:12:13.000 Like, your name's Eddie Bravo, and that sounds ridiculous.

02:12:15.000 His real name is Jimmy Lawless.

02:12:17.000 My name sounds ridiculous.

02:12:18.000 Well, it sounds cool.

02:12:19.000 It sounds like a superhero.

02:12:20.000 Eddie Bravo.

02:12:21.000 It sounds like you picked it.

02:12:22.000 Like, Bravo is like, you know, it's like Eddie Awesome.

02:12:25.000 It's like, my name's Eddie Awesome.

02:12:28.000 I wish my name was Brendan Awesome.

02:12:29.000 People really think that it's my stage name.

02:12:34.000 Like a porno man.

02:12:35.000 Isn't it funny that you can't pick your own name?

02:12:37.000 I just want to name myself something awesome.

02:12:39.000 Well, why can't you?

02:12:40.000 I did.

02:12:41.000 My name is The Kid.

02:12:42.000 You did name yourself The Kid.

02:12:45.000 Nobody gave me that.

02:12:46.000 I came to set one day, I was doing a movie, and I said, my new name is The Kid.

02:12:50.000 Is that related to Larry?

02:12:51.000 The Larry effect?

02:12:55.000 I just call myself the kid, bro.

02:12:58.000 That's how you introduce yourself to me?

02:12:59.000 The cameraman started saying, hey kid, can you?

02:13:02.000 And I was like, what did you say?

02:13:03.000 And he goes, kid, can you move?

02:13:04.000 I go, it's the kid, so please call me the kid.

02:13:07.000 And I was dead serious.

02:13:09.000 Well, here's the thing.

02:13:09.000 Brian and I have been friends for 20, what?

02:13:12.000 Two years or something like that?

02:13:14.000 Since 1995, sir.

02:13:15.000 Okay, so 21 years?

02:13:16.000 Yeah.

02:13:17.000 And he always called himself the kid.

02:13:20.000 He introduced himself as the kid to me.

02:13:22.000 He called himself the kid back when he was a kid.

02:13:24.000 I love it.

02:13:25.000 I'm a young guy.

02:13:26.000 He was always the kid.

02:13:28.000 You know how the kid rolls.

02:13:29.000 He was always the kid.

02:13:31.000 He was always calling himself the kid.

02:13:33.000 I love that.

02:13:33.000 It's how the kid rolls.

02:13:36.000 Brian Callen always was ridiculous.

02:13:38.000 I remember the first time I went over to Brian Callen's house, he had no doorknob.

02:13:42.000 Okay?

02:13:43.000 I go to his house.

02:13:44.000 I get to his door.

02:13:45.000 I get to his door.

02:13:45.000 There's no fucking doorknob.

02:13:47.000 I'm like, dude, you don't have a doorknob?

02:13:49.000 He's like, no, no.

02:13:50.000 It's like a fucking homeless lady came in.

02:13:52.000 She was cooking eggs one day.

02:13:54.000 I go, what?

02:13:54.000 A homeless lady came in?

02:13:56.000 For real?

02:13:56.000 She was cooking eggs?

02:13:56.000 He goes, yeah, yeah.

02:13:57.000 I call the cops.

02:13:58.000 He's beating the fucking tar out of shit.

02:14:01.000 I used to walk my pit bulls with no leash.

02:14:04.000 They'd kill cats.

02:14:05.000 I'd...

02:14:05.000 That was the worst thing.

02:14:07.000 They killed his cat, and I was like, oh no, and I grabbed the cat and ran away and buried it.

02:14:12.000 He's got that professional base.

02:14:15.000 Bermudez is just...

02:14:16.000 I felt so bad about that.

02:14:17.000 Bermudez is so close to the title shot, he won seven in a row.

02:14:20.000 You know what I mean?

02:14:20.000 He's beating him with the base.

02:14:21.000 Yeah, there's some dudes you cannot let posture up, and Bermudez is certainly one of them.

02:14:25.000 He knows how to drive his weight and smash and crush.

02:14:29.000 You know he has a cooking show?

02:14:31.000 Bermuda's does?

02:14:32.000 Yes, on YouTube.

02:14:33.000 It's a cooking show, yeah.

02:14:35.000 And he's doing well with it.

02:14:36.000 Good for him.

02:14:39.000 Him and Pat Cummins do the same shit.

02:14:42.000 Yeah, get it?

02:14:43.000 Him and Pat Cummins, they make their own sriracha and shit, ride bikes.

02:14:47.000 Oh man, that's awesome.

02:14:50.000 I love Pat Cummins.

02:14:51.000 One of my favorite people.

02:14:53.000 He's a good dude, man.

02:14:53.000 I hung out with him.

02:14:54.000 We went to dinner one of the nights in Brazil before he beat Feijão.

02:15:00.000 Yes.

02:15:01.000 And he's a fucking good dude, man.

02:15:04.000 He's one of the best, man.

02:15:05.000 He makes a mean sriracha.

02:15:07.000 A mean sriracha.

02:15:08.000 Does he?

02:15:08.000 How do we get a hold of it?

02:15:09.000 It's sugar-free sriracha.

02:15:10.000 Where do I get it?

02:15:11.000 From Pat.

02:15:12.000 No Pat.

02:15:13.000 I want to buy it.

02:15:14.000 I want other people to be able to buy it.

02:15:16.000 Well, it's not in fucking Ralph's.

02:15:17.000 Pat's like making it in his backyard.

02:15:18.000 We gotta get it.

02:15:19.000 It's really good, dude.

02:15:20.000 We don't have a Matt's production line.

02:15:21.000 It's special.

02:15:21.000 We gotta sell his formula to Anna and get Pat.

02:15:24.000 There's Matt Serra.

02:15:24.000 I'm not mad at that idea.

02:15:26.000 Hey.

02:15:26.000 The great?

02:15:27.000 I thought it was Matt Serra.

02:15:28.000 That's not Matt Serra, you fucking asshole.

02:15:29.000 Sorry, Matt.

02:15:30.000 How fucking dare you?

02:15:31.000 Matt, I'm sorry, dude.

02:15:32.000 Sorry, Matt.

02:15:33.000 I saw Matt do stand-up.

02:15:34.000 Matt was good.

02:15:35.000 Matt's a funny guy, man.

02:15:36.000 He was funny, man.

02:15:37.000 Matt's hilarious.

02:15:37.000 One of my favorite people.

02:15:38.000 I'm doing their podcast this week.

02:15:40.000 The UFC Unfiltered.

02:15:42.000 Matt, Sarah, and Jim Norton have a podcast.

02:15:45.000 Matt was funny.

02:15:46.000 And so was Dana.

02:15:47.000 Dana actually was pretty good.

02:15:48.000 Damn, he has Ultimate Fighter Tattoo.

02:15:50.000 Why not?

02:15:51.000 That's aggressive.

02:15:51.000 Fuck it.

02:15:51.000 Riding the storm, bitch.

02:15:53.000 Yeah, get it, son.

02:15:54.000 Come on, man.

02:15:54.000 That changes his life, you know?

02:15:57.000 Yeah, I know.

02:15:58.000 Why not?

02:15:58.000 I know.

02:15:59.000 What if it's like chained over his ex-girlfriend?

02:16:01.000 I know.

02:16:02.000 Who else is on that chain?

02:16:04.000 It's Jason from the movie, Friday.

02:16:07.000 That's who's on his arm?

02:16:09.000 Yes.

02:16:09.000 And then his back says jujitsu.

02:16:11.000 I love it all, man.

02:16:13.000 I love it all.

02:16:13.000 And then he has a Reebok sign on his neck.

02:16:15.000 Do you know what Reebok's new saying is?

02:16:27.000 You know what their logo is?

02:16:28.000 My bad.

02:16:29.000 Be more human.

02:16:30.000 I want to be more human.

02:16:31.000 Be more like Dennis Bermudez.

02:16:34.000 Dude's a fucking beast.

02:16:35.000 Be more creative.

02:16:36.000 Look at him on top here.

02:16:37.000 Yeah, he is fucking screwed up.

02:16:40.000 Dennis Bermudez is a beast.

02:16:41.000 Sweet.

02:16:42.000 Check this out.

02:16:43.000 Half Nelson, welcome to high school.

02:16:45.000 Let me bully you real quick in front of everybody, motherfucker, and get paid for it.

02:16:49.000 Damn, he's tough.

02:16:50.000 You know what you rarely see in MMA is fights stomped on cuts.

02:16:56.000 Conor's got his hands full with Dennis Bermudez if he comes down to 45. Bermudez ain't touching Conor.

02:17:05.000 Brian, Brian, Brian, Eddie was talking.

02:17:06.000 Come on, man.

02:17:06.000 We can't keep interrupting each other like this.

02:17:09.000 It seems like in the UFC, blood isn't a big deal like it is in boxing.

02:17:13.000 It's like you rarely see fights stopped on cuts.

02:17:16.000 You rarely see that.

02:17:17.000 They let it go.

02:17:18.000 Yeah, look at this blood.

02:17:19.000 You know what?

02:17:20.000 Maybe blood.

02:17:21.000 In the WWF and WWE, blood equals money.

02:17:24.000 That's why guys are cutting themselves up.

02:17:26.000 It's only three rounds.

02:17:28.000 That's not true, Brian.

02:17:29.000 It's 15 minutes.

02:17:30.000 This is a squirter.

02:17:34.000 It's based off time.

02:17:35.000 That's good ratings, right?

02:17:36.000 Look at Jason's head.

02:17:38.000 Dude, look at his head.

02:17:39.000 His head is literally dripping.

02:17:42.000 As long as he's sliding into his eyes.

02:17:43.000 I would have the corner guys with ketchup, just like blood, just squirting people.

02:17:48.000 That's a lot of blood.

02:17:50.000 If it goes in his eyes, that's when they stop it.

02:17:51.000 Look at these kicks, dude.

02:17:53.000 Look at these kicks.

02:17:54.000 Dennis Bermudez has beautiful technique.

02:17:56.000 Dude, he is fucking this kid up.

02:17:58.000 Ryan Parsons is very high on Dennis Bermudez.

02:18:01.000 Always has been.

02:18:02.000 Hell yeah, he has been.

02:18:03.000 Him and Pat.

02:18:04.000 You know, that fight with Jeremy Stevens was insane.

02:18:08.000 What a crazy fight that was.

02:18:09.000 What a crazy knee Stevens lands to close the show.

02:18:13.000 And think about Bermudez.

02:18:14.000 Again, I can say it's seven or eight in a row.

02:18:16.000 Brian, get that fucking cheese out of my face.

02:18:18.000 I can't stop eating it.

02:18:20.000 I have an eating fry.

02:18:21.000 You think that's a fake suntan or is that the real suntan?

02:18:24.000 That shit is natural.

02:18:25.000 Oh!

02:18:27.000 Him and Pat ride bikes in the Orange County like it's their fucking job.

02:18:32.000 So he's tan.

02:18:32.000 You know he's riding with his shirt off.

02:18:34.000 So it's legit.

02:18:35.000 He's a Mexican gentleman.

02:18:36.000 So Bermudez doesn't touch Connor?

02:18:39.000 Well, he's not big enough star to get that fight.

02:18:41.000 Oh, I see.

02:18:41.000 You don't think it's fake suntan?

02:18:44.000 No, not at all.

02:18:45.000 Bermudez is a nice mocha brown all the time.

02:18:48.000 Oh, okay.

02:18:48.000 He's...

02:18:49.000 I don't think he's Mexican.

02:18:53.000 Puerto Rican?

02:18:54.000 Spanish.

02:18:55.000 Cuban?

02:18:56.000 Something like that.

02:18:57.000 He's got great skin.

02:18:59.000 He's got great skin.

02:19:00.000 Honey Jason's like, get me the fuck out of here.

02:19:02.000 It's too even to be natural.

02:19:02.000 It's too perfect to be natural.

02:19:04.000 I don't think so.

02:19:05.000 They ride with their bike off in the ocean, man.

02:19:06.000 Big John McCarthy.

02:19:08.000 How awesome is he?

02:19:08.000 Did fake suntanning go under?

02:19:11.000 It went under with GSP. It went under?

02:19:12.000 Yes.

02:19:13.000 Fake suntanning?

02:19:14.000 Yeah, you can't do that shit anymore.

02:19:15.000 But did GSB have fake tan or did he just get tanned a lot because tan makes your body actually produce vitamin D, which helps your endurance, helps your anabolic state?

02:19:23.000 I'm talking about the industry, the fake sun tan industry.

02:19:25.000 Did it go under?

02:19:26.000 I don't see them anymore.

02:19:27.000 Hold on a second.

02:19:28.000 That is true.

02:19:30.000 Tanning, tanning booths.

02:19:31.000 Is that gone?

02:19:31.000 When you see people tanning, no, it's not gone.

02:19:34.000 No, they're fucking everywhere.

02:19:35.000 But there's an athletic benefit to that.

02:19:36.000 There's an actually athletic benefit.

02:19:38.000 Your body actually does produce vitamin D. Where did you get that?

02:19:41.000 From the sun.

02:19:43.000 Did you go to the internet to get that?

02:19:45.000 Eddie Bravo, come on.

02:19:47.000 Steve Maxwell.

02:19:47.000 Steve Maxwell was talking about it.

02:19:49.000 He said that GSP was at the center of this.

02:19:51.000 Steve Maxwell was talking about how Russian athletes have been doing this for a long time, and a lot of other athletes have figured out...

02:19:56.000 Ain't the darkest Russian you know.

02:19:58.000 It's always like the Russians are doing it.

02:20:00.000 It's legit.

02:20:02.000 Vitamin D. There it is.

02:20:03.000 Fake sun tanning.

02:20:04.000 New research shows vitamin D can dramatically increase athletic performance.

02:20:07.000 And you get that from fake sun tanning?

02:20:09.000 Yes, you can get vitamin D. You get the same rays that you do from the sun, just intensify.

02:20:14.000 Oh, shit.

02:20:15.000 I think GSP did it for both.

02:20:17.000 It's going to be floating.

02:20:18.000 He's a marketing genius.

02:20:19.000 You're going to be sun tanning.

02:20:20.000 Well, GSB did it because he knew it could help his performance, for sure.

02:20:23.000 And he'd look better, both.

02:20:24.000 Yes, he looked better.

02:20:25.000 He's very savvy when it comes to that stuff.

02:20:27.000 But, you know, Maxwell is, like, he's got his thumb on the pulse.

02:20:30.000 I mean, of the whole, like, athletic spectrum as far as, like, people's strength and conditioning, little hacks and little things that people do.

02:20:37.000 He's always got new shit.

02:20:38.000 Yeah, always something.

02:20:38.000 He's, like, he's constantly on top of it.

02:20:40.000 So when he was talking about that, I take everything Maxwell says when it comes to, like, physical fitness and strength and conditioning.

02:20:47.000 He's a very respectful...

02:20:49.000 Oh, yeah, I don't think he's bullshit.

02:20:50.000 I think GSP was doing it for looks and maybe that.

02:20:53.000 Damn, I never heard that.

02:20:54.000 That's going to be the new thing.

02:20:55.000 Dudes are going to be coming in fucking tanned as fuck.

02:20:58.000 They're going to look like bodybuilders.

02:21:01.000 They always have.

02:21:01.000 They're going to have that blackness look.

02:21:03.000 But you could also take vitamin D, especially D3, and get probably pretty similar results, too.

02:21:08.000 You just wouldn't get the tan.

02:21:09.000 But you could get both.

02:21:11.000 You could supplement with it.

02:21:13.000 You could take the tan.

02:21:14.000 You could do a lot of different things.

02:21:16.000 So basically, if you come in white and not tan, you're not coming in at your full potential.

02:21:20.000 That's not necessarily true because you'd be supplementing vitamin D. So if you take it...

02:21:24.000 I don't know.

02:21:25.000 If you're getting D3... D3 is a hard one to get, man.

02:21:29.000 If you're not tan, you ain't trying.

02:21:31.000 I always tan.

02:21:34.000 What an uncomfortable moment.

02:21:36.000 This is awkward.

02:21:37.000 Brian Callen, it's time you start talking.

02:21:40.000 I was going to say, I'm waiting.

02:21:41.000 I'm waiting for my opening.

02:21:43.000 This is getting weird.

02:21:44.000 This podcast is going to bring back the tanning fucking industry.

02:21:48.000 You know what I was thinking?

02:21:49.000 It's definitely not.

02:21:50.000 You guys are talking?

02:21:50.000 It's definitely not.

02:21:52.000 Millions of people listen to your shit.

02:21:53.000 It's going to bring it back.

02:21:55.000 You created the floating industry.

02:21:57.000 This is going to bring back tanning.

02:21:59.000 I was saying, as you were talking, I was thinking to myself, as people move to higher latitudes, They lost the melanin in their skin because they got less sun, so you have to lose melanin in your skin so you can absorb the ultraviolet rays that create vitamin D. That's why Russians are so white.

02:22:18.000 And get that skin cancer.

02:22:20.000 That's right.

02:22:21.000 That's right.

02:22:21.000 That doesn't even make any sense.

02:22:22.000 So white people are actually black people who just need less sun to produce vitamin D. You lost me there.

02:22:30.000 That's evolutionary biology, you racist bastards.

02:22:33.000 You said white people are just black people?

02:22:35.000 What was the rest?

02:22:37.000 What was the rest?

02:22:38.000 That just need less sun to produce essential vitamin D, goddammit.

02:22:43.000 Well, you lost me there.

02:22:45.000 Is that white people are just black people?

02:22:48.000 I'm just telling you what my thoughts were, dude.

02:22:51.000 By the way, I'm gonna start speaking in a seductive voice right now.

02:22:54.000 I'm not mad at you.

02:22:55.000 Because I'm getting some wine running through my body and I feel real good and warm.

02:22:58.000 Oh, nice inside leg.

02:22:59.000 I love you guys.

02:23:00.000 I mean as a group too.

02:23:02.000 As a clump.

02:23:03.000 When I think of you guys, I think of you guys as a fucking clump.

02:23:06.000 Bermuda's attacking those inside legs.

02:23:08.000 I'm not done.

02:23:08.000 I don't give a fuck about Bermuda's.

02:23:10.000 I think about you guys as one big brown muscular clump.

02:23:14.000 You're a brown, skilled, muscular clump.

02:23:19.000 I don't give a fuck about Trent.

02:23:22.000 Bermuda just lends another leg at another one.

02:23:24.000 This vodka is going off the straight fucking...

02:23:27.000 Bermuda's chopping at those legs.

02:23:28.000 He's chopping that leg.

02:23:30.000 And Roni Jason is a tough kid.

02:23:34.000 I call him Roni.

02:23:36.000 I call him Roni.

02:23:39.000 And he needs less sun.

02:23:40.000 He needs less sun to produce essential vitamin D. He could end it right here if he had a fucking anaconda show.

02:23:49.000 Stuff it.

02:23:50.000 Stuff that shit.

02:23:52.000 He's exhausted, too.

02:23:53.000 He's been in his ass.

02:23:54.000 Yeah, throw that anaconda, you fuck.

02:23:57.000 I like how the color of his shorts are exactly the color of his skin.

02:24:01.000 So do I, buddy.

02:24:02.000 It looks like he's naked.

02:24:04.000 With a green tattoo.

02:24:06.000 Come on, you ivory fuck.

02:24:09.000 There you go.

02:24:11.000 He's Brazilian too.

02:24:12.000 I don't give a fuck.

02:24:13.000 You ivory fuck.

02:24:15.000 It's weird he's Brazilian and white as fuck.

02:24:18.000 Dude, it's like he's naked.

02:24:20.000 Oh my god.

02:24:20.000 Dude, his shorts had the black, like, crack.

02:24:23.000 Hey, why can't guys wear skin?

02:24:25.000 You could sublimate that.

02:24:26.000 Why can't guys wear skin color shorts with fake dicks drawn in the front?

02:24:30.000 Good idea.

02:24:31.000 That's what I'm talking about.

02:24:32.000 I'm talking about doing a skin tight shirt.

02:24:37.000 With skin color, skin tight, with a dick with a snake head.

02:24:43.000 Like a bikini with your dick popping out of your balls, but it's a bikini.

02:24:48.000 It's sublimated.

02:24:49.000 It's the sublimation of the bikini with your balls.

02:24:52.000 I'm just happy you used the word sublimated correctly.

02:24:56.000 I tried.

02:24:57.000 Bro, I went to a Halloween party.

02:24:59.000 I've never used that word ever.

02:25:01.000 Sublimated.

02:25:02.000 I'm not even sure what it means.

02:25:03.000 It's a good word.

02:25:04.000 It was legit.

02:25:05.000 Sublimated is a good word.

02:25:06.000 I'm an industry.

02:25:07.000 It's real.

02:25:07.000 It's legit.

02:25:08.000 If your mind can conceive it, you can print that shit.

02:25:11.000 What does that mean, sublimated?

02:25:12.000 I'm going to look it up right now.

02:25:14.000 He's full mouth.

02:25:16.000 He's going to get his back because he's a wrestler, so he's going to turn and stand up.

02:25:20.000 That's trouble, man.

02:25:21.000 Oh, shit.

02:25:22.000 Now he has wrist control.

02:25:23.000 Oh, fuck!

02:25:24.000 Oh, fuck!

02:25:25.000 It's over!

02:25:25.000 He got him!

02:25:26.000 No fucking way!

02:25:27.000 He got him!

02:25:28.000 He got him!

02:25:28.000 Oh!

02:25:29.000 No, he don't got him!

02:25:29.000 His chin's tucked!

02:25:30.000 His chin's tucked!

02:25:31.000 God damn it!

02:25:32.000 You've been beating the fuck out of him!

02:25:33.000 Dude!

02:25:34.000 Can Honey Jason pull it off?

02:25:35.000 Standing up!

02:25:36.000 Standing up!

02:25:37.000 Oh, shit!

02:25:38.000 Defense!

02:25:39.000 Defense!

02:25:39.000 Stand up!

02:25:40.000 Stand up!

02:25:40.000 Spin!

02:25:40.000 Oh!

02:25:41.000 Honey Jason drags him back to the ground!

02:25:44.000 Damn seven!

02:25:45.000 Body lock!

02:25:45.000 You go right to that shit!

02:25:46.000 Close that motherfucker!

02:25:48.000 How tough is Jason, man?

02:25:49.000 Oh, look at this!

02:25:50.000 Leg lock!

02:25:50.000 Ronny Jason is tough as neck.

02:25:53.000 Critical error.

02:25:56.000 Critical error.

02:25:57.000 It's like he fumbled.

02:25:58.000 You fucked up, son.

02:25:59.000 He fumbled.

02:26:00.000 So, sublimate or sublimated is to divert or modify an instinctual impulse into a culturally higher or socially more acceptable activity.

02:26:12.000 But that's infant care, bro.

02:26:14.000 It came up when I typed it in.

02:26:16.000 You're reading Sublimate Infant Care.

02:26:17.000 That's Infant Care.

02:26:19.000 You're reading Infant Care too?

02:26:20.000 You weren't reading the same.

02:26:21.000 That's Sublimate.

02:26:21.000 You were reading something different.

02:26:23.000 Sublimate.

02:26:23.000 So how was it used in this conversation?

02:26:27.000 I don't know, but I think he used it wrong.

02:26:30.000 And that's alright.

02:26:32.000 I love how you said it, that's alright, that shows you're a dad.

02:26:34.000 At least you tried, buddy.

02:26:37.000 It's a great word.

02:26:38.000 I had a brilliant thought though, you fox, and I can't remember what it was.

02:26:41.000 Hey, can you share it and then let's find out what the real definition is?

02:26:44.000 Sublimate in the apparel business is, now they got machines now, that you can take any picture you want and put it on material.

02:26:51.000 It's not about like, oh, like those old school graphic arts type shit.

02:26:55.000 Sublimate then?

02:26:56.000 Sublimate.

02:26:57.000 Sublimates.

02:26:58.000 There's a couple other...

02:26:59.000 You see rash guards?

02:27:01.000 You see rash?

02:27:02.000 Sublimates.

02:27:03.000 No, there's a couple of different definitions here.

02:27:05.000 It's a sexual one, it appears.

02:27:06.000 In the apparel business, it means make rash guards about...

02:27:10.000 You could take a picture and make a rash guard out of it through the sublimation process.

02:27:16.000 Oh, I see.

02:27:17.000 That's chemistry.

02:27:18.000 It's a technology.

02:27:20.000 That's why rash guards are so amazing now because of sublimation.

02:27:23.000 Before sublimation, you had to do like old school graphic arts, like two color type simple logos.

02:27:32.000 He's right.

02:27:33.000 Now you can do anything.

02:27:34.000 So there's a bunch of different definitions.

02:27:36.000 Because that one was sexual in the beginning.

02:27:40.000 Do we run out of noises we can make with our face?

02:27:42.000 Why do we have words that mean a bunch of different shit?

02:27:46.000 So people can sound smarter than others?

02:27:48.000 Noises we make with our face.

02:27:49.000 I mean, do we run out?

02:27:50.000 Why do we have to use Sublimate for a bunch of different things?

02:27:53.000 Why should it be confusing?

02:27:55.000 You should be able to go to the dictionary and it's just one fucking definition.

02:27:58.000 I agree.

02:27:58.000 I fucking agree with that.

02:27:59.000 It's so exhausting.

02:28:01.000 You know?

02:28:01.000 People have words like trite.

02:28:03.000 That was one of those words where people are also afraid to say they don't know what it means.

02:28:07.000 Trite, trite, glib.

02:28:09.000 I didn't know what supplement meant.

02:28:10.000 I just rolled with it.

02:28:11.000 Do you know what trite means?

02:28:12.000 I don't think I've ever used supplement.

02:28:13.000 Trite is like ridiculous, nonsensical, not important.

02:28:19.000 Dude, do you know what glib means?

02:28:22.000 Yeah, because I watched the Matt Lauer, Tom Cruise interview.

02:28:26.000 It was like, Matt, you're being glib.

02:28:28.000 What's glib mean?

02:28:30.000 It means like he's dismissing something that he's not...

02:28:36.000 It's like a harsh dismissal.

02:28:39.000 Insincere.

02:28:39.000 Insincere, thank you.

02:28:40.000 Dude, Brian had to explain what cahoots meant, because I thought it meant enemies.

02:28:43.000 But is it insincere, glib, when he's saying it like that?

02:28:45.000 When he's saying he's being glib.

02:28:47.000 I don't think he's saying he's being insincere.

02:28:49.000 I think he's saying he's being...

02:28:51.000 Is this the actual word of it?

02:28:52.000 Public education.

02:28:53.000 The person speaking fluent and voluble, but insincere and shallow.

02:28:58.000 It means shallow.

02:28:59.000 I didn't want to say it, but that's what it really means.

02:29:01.000 Shallow.

02:29:01.000 Wow.

02:29:03.000 I thought it was dismissive, so I had it wrong.

02:29:06.000 No, so glib would be when you're not being almost reverential to something that requires gravitas.

02:29:13.000 Like us with cyborg fighting Ray Lewis.

02:29:15.000 It'd be like, yeah, but basketball is just like throwing a ball into a bladder.

02:29:20.000 Don't be glib, Brian.

02:29:21.000 Don't be glib, Brian.

02:29:22.000 That's just not a word that's in my frequent vocabulary.

02:29:26.000 If we used it, it would be.

02:29:28.000 Like if a girl says...

02:29:29.000 Like you say sun all the time, so I say sun all the time.

02:29:31.000 It's fun.

02:29:33.000 But if you use glib, I'd do it.

02:29:35.000 Now you're talking about two different things.

02:29:37.000 That's what she went on the antidepressant for.

02:29:40.000 But what happens to the antidepressant, all it does is mask the problem.

02:29:42.000 There's ways of vitamins and through exercise and various things.

02:29:45.000 I'm not saying that that isn't real.

02:29:47.000 But aren't there examples where it works?

02:29:50.000 You don't even...

02:29:51.000 You're glim.

02:29:52.000 You don't even know what Ritalin is.

02:29:53.000 If you start talking about chemical imbalance, you have to evaluate and read the research papers on how they came up with these theories.

02:30:00.000 He's kind of schooling them.

02:30:01.000 He's crushing them.

02:30:03.000 Whatever, Cruz.

02:30:03.000 That's a dumbass...

02:30:05.000 I don't think Matt Lauer is being sincere.

02:30:08.000 Matt Lauer was asking him questions, and he was saying, hey, there are examples when antidepressants, you're not a fucking doctor, Tom Cruise.

02:30:15.000 There are examples when they work and save lives, you fucking dummy.

02:30:18.000 Stick to acting and make him believe, and that was him on a Scientology riff.

02:30:24.000 Easy, bro.

02:30:25.000 Brian, come on.

02:30:26.000 You know what else?

02:30:27.000 Just because he got to roll over, you know, you hate the guy.

02:30:29.000 You're right, buddy.

02:30:30.000 You're right.

02:30:30.000 I'm being gloom.

02:30:31.000 I'm being gloom about Tom Cruise.

02:30:32.000 Don't bring up chemtrails, because that's...

02:30:35.000 Oh, this is when he went full batshit crazy.

02:30:38.000 I'd be dancing like this, too.

02:30:39.000 I love Katie Holmes.

02:30:40.000 Yeah, fuck yeah, he loves you.

02:30:41.000 Yeah, he got divorced.

02:30:42.000 Tell you something about that guy.

02:30:43.000 You're a fan of Ritalin?

02:30:45.000 I've met him twice.

02:30:45.000 He's the nicest human being on the planet.

02:30:47.000 You're a fan of Ritalin?

02:30:48.000 What's that?

02:30:48.000 Are you a fan of Ritalin?

02:30:49.000 I don't know anything about Ritalin.

02:30:51.000 I don't know.

02:30:52.000 I'm not a fan of any medication that I don't have to give to my children, but I do think that there are certain drugs that are made by big pharmaceutical companies that save lives, that make people's lives better.

02:31:05.000 I don't know, I'm not a pharmacologist, but I can give you examples of the things that I've seen with my own eyes.

02:31:10.000 Listen, man, if you need antibiotics, you need fucking science.

02:31:12.000 Goddamn right.

02:31:13.000 What about antidepressants?

02:31:14.000 If you get staph infection, you better listen to fucking doctors and not listen to some voodoo doctor.

02:31:19.000 I'm down with antidepressants.

02:31:23.000 Fuck yeah.

02:31:24.000 Fuck that staph.

02:31:27.000 So, I don't think there's an either or.

02:31:29.000 Exactly.

02:31:29.000 I think there's a lot of medications that do a lot of people a lot of good.

02:31:32.000 Yep.

02:31:32.000 And I think there's also a lot of medications that pharmaceutical companies are profiting off of people.

02:31:37.000 Correct.

02:31:37.000 Using them in ways that they don't need them.

02:31:40.000 Exactly.

02:31:40.000 Especially painkillers.

02:31:41.000 I agree with that.

02:31:42.000 And a lot of other stuff.

02:31:43.000 However...

02:31:44.000 Brenda, you had a fucking real issue, right?

02:31:46.000 With those goddamn painkillers?

02:31:47.000 Yeah, there's a rumor I was addicted to.

02:31:50.000 You talked about it.

02:31:52.000 You know, it's scary shit, man.

02:31:54.000 Because you're a together guy.

02:31:55.000 Like, to hear that you got caught in the grip of those fucking things.

02:31:58.000 The most addictive thing in the world, they say.

02:32:01.000 And my doctor was trying to be cool, and I was only supposed to have like 50. He's like, here's like 200, man.

02:32:05.000 Just, you know, you know.

02:32:07.000 Explain what it was, though.

02:32:08.000 Like he was a fan.

02:32:08.000 I was like, okay.

02:32:09.000 But explain what they urged.

02:32:11.000 They're addictive.

02:32:12.000 So in what way?

02:32:13.000 So when you stop using them, you're depressed.

02:32:16.000 You feel itchy.

02:32:18.000 So then you keep taking them.

02:32:19.000 It just makes you feel better.

02:32:21.000 Makes you feel better.

02:32:21.000 And then you're dependent on it.

02:32:22.000 So when I'd go out with my friends, I knew I had 200. So I was like, I might as well take one of those and not be all cranky and itchy and in pain.

02:32:29.000 I'll just take one of those and have one beer.

02:32:31.000 And it's a fun fucking night.

02:32:32.000 Wow.

02:32:33.000 And the next thing I know, every morning, I'm just boom, boom, boom, boom.

02:32:36.000 And to my friend and brother, like, what the fuck are you doing?

02:32:39.000 And they took him from me.

02:32:41.000 I was talking to two pretty well-known fighters.

02:32:43.000 Why?

02:32:43.000 Does anyone have any in here?

02:32:44.000 Why?

02:32:44.000 What's up?

02:32:45.000 I'm addicted to this fucking Conor McGregor, Nate Diaz countdown thing they're doing right now.

02:32:50.000 Me too.

02:32:51.000 I think Conor wins a decision.

02:32:51.000 Goddamn, I can't wait for this fight.

02:32:53.000 I think Conor wins a decision.

02:32:54.000 He might.

02:32:55.000 Who knows?

02:32:55.000 Do you really?

02:32:56.000 Yes.

02:32:56.000 Nate might get him.

02:32:58.000 I mean, who the fuck knows, man?

02:33:00.000 All we know is Nate got him the first time they fought.

02:33:02.000 I don't know.

02:33:03.000 I'm just telling you in my educated opinion, I think Conor McGregor wins by decision based off that first round and more knowledgeable training.

02:33:09.000 We're talking about Nate Diaz with zero training.

02:33:12.000 Coming in with 11 days notice.

02:33:14.000 It's a five-round fight, isn't it?

02:33:15.000 He's still won.

02:33:15.000 It's a five-round fight.

02:33:17.000 But do you know how more comfortable Nate is going to be with a full camp than he's going to be?

02:33:23.000 I mean, you just assume that given...

02:33:25.000 Okay, there's psychological variables that come into play, especially when you deal with the amount of pressure that Nate is under now.

02:33:32.000 You deal with the amount of press obligations he's now...

02:33:36.000 Forced to attend.

02:33:37.000 More than he's ever done.

02:33:37.000 More than he's ever done, for sure.

02:33:39.000 But he's also getting a good long stretch of time to know what kind of shape he's got to get in before the fight, right?

02:33:48.000 I mean, if you thought logically, taking psychological considerations out, logically you would say, well, if he won the first fight, if he's got more time to prepare in the second fight, he's going to be even better than he was in the first fight.

02:34:00.000 You could say the same thing for Conor, though.

02:34:02.000 You could say he's never fought at 170 before.

02:34:04.000 All he did was throw power punches.

02:34:06.000 That first round, it kind of murked him.

02:34:07.000 The second round, he was in trouble because he gassed and got caught.

02:34:10.000 Man, if he can do in that first round for 25 minutes, he wins that fight.

02:34:14.000 It's a long time.

02:34:15.000 Sure.

02:34:15.000 You're right.

02:34:16.000 I'm just saying he can play both sides.

02:34:18.000 You know, you could say he was not without success in the first fight.

02:34:21.000 He had a very successful first round, and he had a very successful minute plus of the second round.

02:34:26.000 Then he got in trouble.

02:34:27.000 A lot of trouble.

02:34:28.000 He got in trouble, and Nate started talking shit, and he started getting gassed, and he started getting dinged, and then he shot for a takedown.

02:34:35.000 You know where the payday is at, right?

02:34:36.000 The payday is if McGregor wins, because you're not going to have to have a three-peat.

02:34:40.000 Well, the payday is if McGregor and Diaz have an old-time schlabanaka.

02:34:46.000 And McGregor wins.

02:34:47.000 He has to win.

02:34:48.000 Yeah.

02:34:49.000 Or he could have a fucking real close decision loss.

02:34:52.000 Nope.

02:34:52.000 He's 0-2 then.

02:34:53.000 You can't do that.

02:34:54.000 I am obsessed.

02:34:55.000 I will not stop until I beat Nate Diaz.

02:34:58.000 Because you lose two in a row in the UFC and you go, nah, bitch, go ahead and get down there.

02:35:01.000 No, no, no.

02:35:02.000 Not if you're a little white guy from Ireland named Conor McGregor.

02:35:05.000 That's the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, motherfucker.

02:35:07.000 There's a leprechaun.

02:35:08.000 There's your leprechaun!

02:35:10.000 No, the UFC's leprechaun is the guy he's juiced to the gills.

02:35:13.000 His name's Brock Lesnar.

02:35:14.000 That's your leprechaun.

02:35:14.000 That's the other leprechaun.

02:35:15.000 That's the other leprechaun.

02:35:16.000 He's way bigger.

02:35:17.000 He's not your typical leprechaun.

02:35:19.000 That's a different leprechaun.

02:35:21.000 Who won that?

02:35:22.000 Bermuda's.

02:35:23.000 That's Bermuda's one.

02:35:23.000 Yeah.

02:35:24.000 He dominated the first two rounds.

02:35:26.000 This is the main event.

02:35:27.000 We haven't talked about a single fucking fight other than a few random seconds.

02:35:30.000 I think we were doing great until that wine came.

02:35:34.000 We went a little off the deep end when the wine came from.

02:35:37.000 That's the gold ship right there.

02:35:38.000 But it's not always.

02:35:40.000 Look at that.

02:35:42.000 Kung Fu Masters here.

02:35:43.000 Come on.

02:35:45.000 That is hilarious.

02:35:47.000 Somebody put that up on YouTube.

02:35:48.000 Who put that up on YouTube?

02:35:51.000 Philly Chimp?

02:35:52.000 Philly Chimp?

02:35:53.000 Was that always up on YouTube?

02:35:54.000 But he put it up tonight.

02:35:56.000 Someone just made a...

02:35:57.000 It's not even a real video.

02:35:58.000 I don't think he just made a picture.

02:35:59.000 That's hilarious.

02:36:00.000 What is his name?

02:36:02.000 What is his name?

02:36:03.000 Philly Chimp.

02:36:04.000 Alright, Philly Chimp.

02:36:05.000 Shout out to Philly Chimp.

02:36:06.000 Hey, you know Ray Lewis trained with Rashad Evans, right?

02:36:08.000 We're aware of this?

02:36:09.000 Yeah.

02:36:10.000 Trained a bunch with him in Miami.

02:36:11.000 I didn't know that.

02:36:12.000 If the new owners of the UFC want to get fucking gangster, they want to get medieval, make this happen.

02:36:18.000 You're too high, sir.

02:36:19.000 Ray Lewis is retired.

02:36:21.000 Ray Lewis is retired.

02:36:23.000 He's a millionaire.

02:36:24.000 It's too gangster.

02:36:25.000 Cyborg has a tough fight in the next fight.

02:36:27.000 No, Ray Lewis, if you want to make the fight, you make it with Hershel Walker, because he actually still fights.

02:36:31.000 I'm not trying to see those two old fucks.

02:36:33.000 Money can make anything happen.

02:36:34.000 Hershel Walker is ready to fight.

02:36:35.000 It's just a matter of millions.

02:36:38.000 Here's 20 fucking million.

02:36:39.000 Make it happen.

02:36:41.000 Here's 20 million.

02:36:42.000 Make it happen.

02:36:43.000 Everyone will dance.

02:36:44.000 If it was anybody else that was 50 years old that said he wanted a fight, I'd be like, man, you gotta stop.

02:36:50.000 Anybody else, I would say I don't want to see that.

02:36:53.000 Anybody else!

02:36:54.000 If it's Hershel Walker, I'm like, where do I sign up?

02:36:56.000 You're too high, sir.

02:36:57.000 Where do I sign up?

02:36:58.000 You're too high.

02:36:58.000 No!

02:36:59.000 50's 50. You saw him when he was 47. Jacked.

02:37:03.000 Jacked.

02:37:03.000 I believe he was 48 in his last fight.

02:37:07.000 I stopped fighting at 31. Dude, but dude, Herschel Walker is a freak.

02:37:13.000 He's an athletic freak.

02:37:16.000 Yes, he is.

02:37:16.000 Dude, do you see the video of him fighting in Strikeforce?

02:37:18.000 I've watched every single fight he ever did.

02:37:22.000 It is shocking.

02:37:23.000 His ass would get eaten up like a fucking Asaker porno if he jumped into the UFC right now.

02:37:28.000 Yeah, but he's not fighting.

02:37:29.000 When I talk about the UFC, man...

02:37:31.000 Oh, you're talking about like 1FC or some shit?

02:37:33.000 I'm talking about him just as a freak specimen.

02:37:37.000 Like, if he was going to have to fight...

02:37:39.000 We were talking about Ray Lewis.

02:37:41.000 Like, Ray Lewis, we know he is a wrestler, but we don't know how much martial arts experience he had.

02:37:46.000 That's one, but Herschel Walker, Herschel Walker at whatever he is now, 15 years old, at 99.9% of the fucking plan are better.

02:37:57.000 They better run.

02:37:58.000 I agree.

02:37:58.000 You better run.

02:37:59.000 I agree, except for every guy in the light heavyweight division on the roster in the UFC. He's a heavyweight.

02:38:05.000 Okay, even worse.

02:38:06.000 Yeah.

02:38:06.000 He comes to the UFC, everyone's going to go, wow, but he's 50?

02:38:09.000 He's 50?

02:38:09.000 I'm going to kick him on his fucking knee.

02:38:11.000 He's more than 50. I think he's 52. Me too.

02:38:13.000 He's one of the biggest freaks of all time.

02:38:14.000 You're 50. He might still be able to fuck a lot of guys up.

02:38:19.000 Show him running the 100. There's a video of him.

02:38:22.000 In the UFC? When he was at world-class speed.

02:38:24.000 He had world-class speed.

02:38:25.000 Did you see that guy?

02:38:28.000 Let's just go back a year or two.

02:38:31.000 I don't even want to name a name.

02:38:33.000 Think about a questionable heavyweight performance between a guy that's nowhere near the top 20. Some new guy, maybe.

02:38:42.000 You don't think that Hershel Walker could fuck up some new guy?

02:38:45.000 No.

02:38:47.000 Not at 50. That's interesting.

02:38:48.000 Watch Herschel Walker sprint.

02:38:50.000 This is when he's a world-class game.

02:38:51.000 No, let's see him.

02:38:52.000 Not that bad.

02:38:53.000 This Herschel Walker would.

02:38:54.000 Let's see Strikeforce where he's stiff as fuck.

02:38:55.000 See if you can get some video of Herschel Walker fighting in Strikeforce.

02:38:58.000 He's so stiff, Joe.

02:39:00.000 Yeah, but he's fucking strong as shit.

02:39:04.000 I can't wait to see him.

02:39:05.000 Even if he's stiff, it almost doesn't matter, man.

02:39:09.000 Yeah.

02:39:10.000 It almost doesn't matter.

02:39:11.000 Dude, when you turn 50, I can't fucking.

02:39:14.000 I would never fight.

02:39:14.000 Look at how fast he is.

02:39:15.000 Look at how fast he is.

02:39:16.000 I can't wait.

02:39:17.000 Dude, he's one of the biggest freaks of all time.

02:39:19.000 I'm not saying that.

02:39:20.000 That's like in the U.S. right now, the heavyweights would eat him alive.

02:39:24.000 Yeah, the heavyweights.

02:39:25.000 But they're lucky he didn't start this shit about 20 years ago.

02:39:28.000 Oh, I agree.

02:39:29.000 Oh, if Bo Jackson decided to do MMA, he would kick your fucking dick to Jupiter.

02:39:34.000 He's a monster.

02:39:36.000 Best athlete of all time.

02:39:37.000 Look at Herschel Walker at 47. I think he was 48 here.

02:39:41.000 Look at his body.

02:39:42.000 Was he 48 here?

02:39:43.000 Yeah.

02:39:44.000 This is 48 here, defending the leg lock.

02:39:47.000 Yeah, he'll beat your ass.

02:39:49.000 They say he's a monster.

02:39:52.000 That's some good defense.

02:39:53.000 Look at this.

02:39:54.000 Spun around instantly behind his back.

02:39:57.000 And he's a super athlete.

02:40:00.000 One of the best athletes of all time.

02:40:01.000 I think a lot of us sort of underestimate the difference between the elite of the elites and a regular human.

02:40:08.000 Even a regular trained human.

02:40:09.000 Look how he just ragdolled that dude to the ground.

02:40:11.000 Oh my god.

02:40:13.000 Not too tired either.

02:40:14.000 It doesn't look easy.

02:40:15.000 Oh, dude, he's a stud.

02:40:17.000 He's such a super athlete.

02:40:19.000 Yes!

02:40:20.000 25 years ago, amazing athlete.

02:40:22.000 Didn't he win a gold medal in his Olympics?

02:40:24.000 Bobsled.

02:40:25.000 Let's think for a moment.

02:40:26.000 Let's think for a moment.

02:40:27.000 What if Customato existed in 2016 and he found a young 13-year-old Mike Tyson and brought him to Farras Ahabi?

02:40:38.000 Yeah, that'd be amazing, bro.

02:40:40.000 And brought him to Matt Hume.

02:40:41.000 What's the question?

02:40:42.000 Because freak athletes!

02:40:43.000 Every now and then you get a dude, like you remember when Mike Tyson used to hit that heavy bag?

02:40:47.000 You never saw a heavyweight do that, ever.

02:40:51.000 Athletically, Mike Tyson couldn't handle Bo Jackson's jockstrap.

02:40:54.000 If you get Bo Jackson when he's 13...

02:40:57.000 We are talking about different endeavors.

02:40:59.000 We don't know what Mike Tyson's athletic ability would have been if he had been playing football.

02:41:03.000 What we do know is what it was when he got into boxing.

02:41:06.000 And it's almost better than anybody ever in a lot of ways.

02:41:10.000 And the fact that he was so short and he had this crazy style of bobbing and weaving and ripping ridiculous fucking power and speed punches at you.

02:41:18.000 Let me ask you this, Joe.

02:41:19.000 Who's the best guy that he beat?

02:41:22.000 Probably Larry Holmes, but Larry Holmes was out of his prime.

02:41:25.000 But Leon Spinks, or excuse me, Michael Spinks.

02:41:27.000 Watch this, though, dude.

02:41:28.000 I'm just saying, compared to other heavyweights, I don't think he's the best heavyweight.

02:41:31.000 Well, it was all before he went to jail, man.

02:41:34.000 But also, once he went to jail...

02:41:35.000 The best guy he's beat, are old Larry Holmes or Spinks?

02:41:38.000 Dude, it's the way he ran through the division.

02:41:42.000 He changed the whole fucking thing.

02:41:44.000 But you look at Lennox Lewis and Vander Holyfield, much more impressive.

02:41:47.000 It's true.

02:41:48.000 No, there's no doubt about it.

02:41:49.000 Ultimately, when Lennox Lewis...

02:41:51.000 Well, he beat Tyson.

02:41:53.000 No, those old-school boxing shoes he used to wear.

02:41:57.000 But when he beat Tyson, Tyson was an older man, and he had been in the game a long fucking time.

02:42:03.000 It just wasn't the same.

02:42:04.000 Once he was disconnected more and more from the original custom model crew.

02:42:08.000 I'm just saying, look at the body of work compared to Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis.

02:42:11.000 If you look just on paper, Mike Tyson has the scare factor.

02:42:15.000 That's what we all remember.

02:42:16.000 But remember, Brandon, he went out there and fucked everybody up in the first round.

02:42:20.000 Nobody else was there.

02:42:22.000 He didn't beat anyone.

02:42:24.000 Nobody fucking had the fear.

02:42:26.000 When they fought Mike Tyson, they were fucking And that's why we say he's the best.

02:42:30.000 That's why you say he's the best.

02:42:31.000 But if you look at it on paper, he's really not.

02:42:32.000 But the reason they were scared was because he was going through everybody with one fucking punch.

02:42:37.000 He was crushing everybody.

02:42:38.000 Evander Holyfield wasn't scared.

02:42:40.000 Yeah.

02:42:41.000 It's true.

02:42:41.000 Buster Douglas wasn't scared.

02:42:42.000 True.

02:42:44.000 It's true.

02:42:44.000 But if you look at Evander Holyfield's career, he wasn't...

02:42:49.000 He's a gold medalist.

02:42:50.000 He wasn't shocking the world like Mike Tyson was.

02:42:52.000 Mike Tyson was just...

02:42:53.000 He beat Mike Tyson!

02:42:54.000 Mike Tyson blew up pay-per-view.

02:42:56.000 People, they were pissed that he would knock dudes out in the first round.

02:43:00.000 But it's nobody's.

02:43:01.000 It's nobody's if you look at it.

02:43:03.000 That was the problem.

02:43:04.000 Like, look, he's just going to knock them out in the first round.

02:43:06.000 That was the problem.

02:43:07.000 People were pissed off with the pay-per-view.

02:43:08.000 Mike Tyson's just going to beat them in the first round and we're going to lose our money.

02:43:12.000 Fuck!

02:43:13.000 That was a problem.

02:43:15.000 He created a problem.

02:43:16.000 Against nobody, if you look at it, though.

02:43:17.000 No, he's got points.

02:43:19.000 He fucked everybody up.

02:43:20.000 People were scared shitless.

02:43:21.000 Name the best guy, Eddie.

02:43:22.000 There was no other fighter ever that provoked that fear.

02:43:26.000 You're not answering the question, Eddie Bravo.

02:43:27.000 No, you're right, Eddie.

02:43:28.000 You're right.

02:43:29.000 He was a special force.

02:43:30.000 Most scariest fighter on earth.

02:43:32.000 But listen, what Brendan's talking about is like hindsight.

02:43:35.000 So when Brendan's talking about it now, when you look back and you think about the guys he beat, it's very arguable that Holyfield was the superior fighter.

02:43:43.000 He beat him twice.

02:43:44.000 And we always want to say, well, he wasn't the same guy as when Tyson was younger.

02:43:49.000 It doesn't matter.

02:43:50.000 He still beat him when they got together.

02:43:52.000 And Holyfield, you've got to put him on a higher level because he was able to maintain his enthusiasm for fighting way longer than most folks.

02:44:01.000 He had so many fights with Riddick Bowe.

02:44:04.000 Also an amateur.

02:44:06.000 He won the gold.

02:44:07.000 He didn't even make the team.

02:44:08.000 Look at the body of work.

02:44:10.000 His career was amazing.

02:44:12.000 The fights he was in.

02:44:13.000 But Tyson was known for going through dudes.

02:44:16.000 That doesn't mean he's a better fighter.

02:44:18.000 I think you have to give it to Evander because Evander beat him twice.

02:44:22.000 But Tyson is one of the all-time greats.

02:44:24.000 And they're both all-time greats.

02:44:25.000 We're super lucky to have watched those guys fight.

02:44:28.000 I agree.

02:44:29.000 You know, Tyson and Holyfield, I mean, those were epic contests.

02:44:31.000 It's a little bit X-Factor because you're so scared you're stalking these guys out.

02:44:35.000 Boys, here we go.

02:44:35.000 Here we go with the main event.

02:44:36.000 I've never had the answer, but Tyson was more exciting.

02:44:38.000 Main event, boys.

02:44:39.000 Doesn't make you a better fighter.

02:44:40.000 Here's Alex Caceres and Yair Rodriguez.

02:44:42.000 What should be Tyson?

02:44:44.000 Main event.

02:44:44.000 Look at that perfect hook.

02:44:46.000 It's better than me.

02:44:49.000 Yeah, but you always got to wonder, what was the training like for Tyson then in comparison to the training when he was young?

02:44:55.000 What was the mindset like?

02:44:56.000 I'm a firm believer that a really elite fighter can only maintain a certain number of RPMs when they're just smashing people.

02:45:05.000 They can only maintain that for a certain amount of time.

02:45:09.000 The past would prove you right.

02:45:11.000 You look at all fighters, throw down.

02:45:13.000 But we don't realize it when they're going through it.

02:45:15.000 If you look at Ronda, it's like, yeah, that's what she does.

02:45:17.000 You look at Junior Dos Santos, you look at Kane, it's weird.

02:45:21.000 Then you step back and go, oh, that's the run there.

02:45:24.000 That's the greatest we're ever going to see him.

02:45:26.000 But as it's happening, you really don't notice.

02:45:29.000 I was thinking about that the other day.

02:45:30.000 It's very weird.

02:45:33.000 You're accustomed to it and you think that's just what they do.

02:45:35.000 And then they lose like two or three.

02:45:37.000 You're like, oh shit.

02:45:38.000 That was it.

02:45:39.000 That was the run.

02:45:40.000 Those six, seven fights, which it was pure greatness.

02:45:43.000 Music is like that too.

02:45:44.000 Like bands that come out with their new album.

02:45:46.000 But their new album is not like their old shit.

02:45:49.000 Their new album is not like their old shit.

02:45:51.000 But then after 15 years, that new shit is old shit.

02:45:54.000 And it's all great.

02:45:54.000 Guys, we're missing an amazing fight.

02:45:56.000 There's an amazing fight going on right now.

02:45:58.000 Watch Rodriguez.

02:45:59.000 He's better.

02:46:00.000 Rodriguez is going to...

02:46:01.000 Rodriguez is...

02:46:02.000 Caceres has fucking threatened him a few times.

02:46:05.000 Rodriguez is a heavy favorite.

02:46:06.000 He missed him with a spinning backfist.

02:46:10.000 Caceres is too...

02:46:11.000 He's athletic, but he's too...

02:46:14.000 For sure spit it out.

02:46:15.000 He doesn't have the fundamentals, I don't think.

02:46:17.000 What are you talking about, man?

02:46:19.000 He doesn't.

02:46:19.000 He makes mistakes.

02:46:22.000 He makes big mistakes.

02:46:23.000 His hands are down.

02:46:24.000 Watch.

02:46:25.000 He's been getting tagged.

02:46:26.000 I've been wanting to fight.

02:46:26.000 They both fight with their hands down.

02:46:28.000 Rodriguez is a better time.

02:46:30.000 I'm with Callan on this one.

02:46:33.000 When they're close, Rodriguez's hands are up.

02:46:35.000 He's got better defense.

02:46:36.000 Way better defense.

02:46:37.000 Rodriguez is excellent.

02:46:38.000 But dude, Caceres is very good.

02:46:40.000 Very athletic.

02:46:41.000 Very good.

02:46:42.000 That's racist.

02:46:43.000 He needs Brian Callen's workshop.

02:46:45.000 He's not as good fundamentally.

02:46:46.000 He's just not as Rodriguez.

02:46:49.000 He's just not.

02:46:49.000 Watch your mouth.

02:46:50.000 I feel sick.

02:46:51.000 I would disagree with you.

02:46:52.000 I would say Caceres is very underrated.

02:46:55.000 He's very crafty.

02:46:56.000 Very athletic, very crafty, and watch who wins this.

02:46:58.000 He's very comfortable in there.

02:47:00.000 Hey, Brian, Rodriguez is a heavy favorite.

02:47:02.000 Yeah, I'm not saying that...

02:47:03.000 My point is, look at this beautiful leg lock attempt here by Rodriguez.

02:47:07.000 I'm not saying that he's not going to win.

02:47:10.000 You're saying that he doesn't have good fundamentals.

02:47:12.000 I'm not being insulting to Caceres.

02:47:15.000 What I'm saying is that I just watched the first minute, guys, and I saw him make big mistakes where he's coming in and throwing and being really athletic by getting caught in the face by a guy who's a better counterpuncher.

02:47:28.000 I don't see that, and I fought for eight years.

02:47:30.000 Well, I did, because you weren't watching.

02:47:31.000 You were talking the whole time.

02:47:33.000 No, I can't watch that off any fight.

02:47:34.000 Are you a fan of Caceres?

02:47:36.000 Have you ever watched him fight before?

02:47:37.000 I have.

02:47:38.000 Have you ever seen his fight with Sergio Pettis?

02:47:39.000 He's great!

02:47:40.000 What happened in the fight with Sergio Pettis?

02:47:42.000 I didn't see that fight.

02:47:44.000 He beat him.

02:47:46.000 He was the first guy to beat him.

02:47:47.000 I'm not saying he's not really good.

02:47:48.000 I'm saying he doesn't have the fundamentals to fight in the UFC. Alex Kinceras is...

02:47:52.000 Listen to me right now and don't ever say anything different.

02:47:55.000 Compared to Rodriguez.

02:47:57.000 Brian, please.

02:47:58.000 Alex Kinceras is a bad motherfucker.

02:47:59.000 I never said he wasn't.

02:48:00.000 Yair Rodriguez is a bad motherfucker.

02:48:02.000 They all have fundamentals.

02:48:02.000 The fight is happening right now, you fuck!

02:48:05.000 Hey, hey, I said Rodriguez has better fundamentals.

02:48:09.000 That's what I said.

02:48:12.000 You said he has no fundamentals.

02:48:13.000 I didn't say that.

02:48:15.000 You see how he evaded that high kick and then it was a side kick?

02:48:17.000 Look how he's evading everything.

02:48:19.000 Stop trying to control my eyeballs.

02:48:20.000 Brian, Caceres is very good.

02:48:23.000 Of course he's very good!

02:48:24.000 I said he's not as good as Bermudez!

02:48:26.000 He's not fighting Bermudez, you fuck!

02:48:29.000 His fundamentals are not as good as Rodriguez or Bermudez!

02:48:31.000 You didn't say that!

02:48:32.000 Not Bermudez, you fuck!

02:48:34.000 Sorry, man!

02:48:35.000 Look at that!

02:48:36.000 Jumping double round kick!

02:48:37.000 Great takedown!

02:48:38.000 Good fundamentals!

02:48:39.000 Good fundamentals!

02:48:41.000 Good fundamentals!

02:48:42.000 Oh my god!

02:48:43.000 There it is!

02:48:43.000 Look at the fundamental grip!

02:48:44.000 We're like a bunch of children!

02:48:46.000 We're the example of how not to behave when you're on a live podcast.

02:48:51.000 It's so true.

02:48:52.000 What about those shorts?

02:48:53.000 Are those going to be illegalized?

02:48:55.000 Shorts are great.

02:48:55.000 I don't think they're an issue for men.

02:48:56.000 I think it's an issue for women, at least as far as what I read.

02:49:00.000 But I loosely looked over it.

02:49:03.000 See if you can find it, Jamie, what the new regulation is about women's clothing.

02:49:06.000 Imagine if I just made that up.

02:49:08.000 Joe doesn't say anything about women's privilege.

02:49:11.000 Somebody put something in my coffee, bro.

02:49:14.000 That's what someone said, man.

02:49:15.000 This is fucked, bro.

02:49:17.000 What does the loose shit do for us?

02:49:18.000 It's doing nothing.

02:49:20.000 Bermudez is good, man.

02:49:21.000 No, no.

02:49:22.000 It's because of wardrobe malfunctions.

02:49:24.000 It's Rodriguez, Brian.

02:49:27.000 Someone's butt was hanging out recently.

02:49:31.000 Maybe I was talking about the fight before.

02:49:32.000 Maybe I was thinking about Bermudez just now.

02:49:34.000 Oh, Caceres.

02:49:36.000 Powerful Sugar Ray Leonard is still fucking whacking that bag.

02:49:39.000 He'll still fuck you up.

02:49:41.000 In Skechers.

02:49:42.000 You eat your ass whooped by getting Skechers.

02:49:44.000 He's already wearing socks.

02:49:45.000 Imagine if he's wearing Birkenstocks with socks and beat the fuck out of it.

02:49:49.000 He could, too.

02:49:51.000 He could.

02:49:55.000 That's George Hamilton.

02:49:56.000 That's George Hamilton.

02:49:58.000 Wait a minute.

02:49:58.000 Do you guys want some cheese?

02:49:59.000 Wait a minute.

02:49:59.000 Hold on, hold on.

02:50:00.000 What do you mean that's George Hamilton?

02:50:01.000 I believe that would be George Hamilton doing Kentucky Fried Chicken.

02:50:05.000 Wait a minute.

02:50:05.000 He's Colonel Sanders now?

02:50:06.000 What happened to Norm MacDonald?

02:50:07.000 No, it's Norm MacDonald.

02:50:08.000 Nope, that was not.

02:50:09.000 That was George Hamilton.

02:50:10.000 They've had like five different ones recently.

02:50:12.000 What?

02:50:12.000 Yeah, there's one per commercial kind of.

02:50:14.000 Oh, they're getting crafty.

02:50:16.000 It doesn't take place until January 1st, it says, too.

02:50:19.000 Joe, if they give you a million dollars, would you be Colonel Sanders?

02:50:22.000 Just for one campaign.

02:50:24.000 Just only three months.

02:50:25.000 Let me think about it.

02:50:26.000 I like chicken.

02:50:27.000 Female competitors must wear a short-sleeved above-the-elbow or sleeveless form-fitting rash guard and or sports bra.

02:50:33.000 No loose-fitting tops are allowed.

02:50:36.000 Female competitors will follow the same requirements for bottom coverings as the male competitors.

02:50:41.000 Oh, okay.

02:50:42.000 So they only have to have a tight-fitting upper top.

02:50:46.000 Because, did anybody ever have a loose-fitting upper top?

02:50:49.000 You can't have your titties slinging around.

02:50:51.000 But did anybody, did they just want to cover their ass with that?

02:50:53.000 Is that what that was?

02:50:54.000 Nobody, but it was never an issue, right?

02:50:56.000 It happened recently.

02:50:57.000 Someone's, like, their bra got fucked up and she had to look at the ref while something was happening.

02:51:01.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was...

02:51:03.000 Riguez!

02:51:04.000 Riguez!

02:51:05.000 Doing cartwheels!

02:51:06.000 His taekwondo's off the charts!

02:51:08.000 This shows you that Taekwondo is the shit.

02:51:12.000 Brian, you sound like a guy acting like a commentator in a movie right there.

02:51:16.000 His Taekwondo is off the charts!

02:51:18.000 It's like the Karate Kid 7. Did I just say off the charts?

02:51:22.000 I've never said off the charts in my life.

02:51:24.000 I've never said off the charts in my life and I just did.

02:51:26.000 It's coming back.

02:51:27.000 For sure, just don't talk.

02:51:32.000 Dude, that's fucked up.

02:51:34.000 I can't stop laughing thinking of Joe doing the KFC commercials.

02:51:38.000 Would you do it for a certain price, Joe?

02:51:40.000 Probably not now that you guys brought it up.

02:51:44.000 It can't happen.

02:51:46.000 Dude, Jair Rodriguez is throwing some fucking whipping kicks.

02:51:50.000 Yeah, man.

02:51:50.000 His fundamentals are so sound.

02:51:53.000 Dude, tell me, look how good Caceres' defense is, man.

02:51:56.000 Caceres is a very good athlete.

02:51:58.000 He's a beautiful young man.

02:52:01.000 At what point does the afro become like a hindrance?

02:52:04.000 Never.

02:52:05.000 Cushion.

02:52:06.000 Cushion for those fucking hard round kicks in the back of the head.

02:52:08.000 I wonder how much of a cushion that is.

02:52:10.000 He just did a backhand.

02:52:11.000 He punched his knee and then came up with a backhand.

02:52:15.000 Wow.

02:52:16.000 You know what?

02:52:16.000 The refs will probably allow Kits to the back of the head.

02:52:19.000 These guys are both really fucking good.

02:52:22.000 This is a five round fight, boys.

02:52:24.000 Rodriguez is really trying to end the show.

02:52:27.000 This is incredible.

02:52:29.000 George Hampton is the new Colonel Sanders.

02:52:32.000 I called it.

02:52:32.000 How many colonels are there going to be, Jamie?

02:52:35.000 You know they have to do a black one, right?

02:52:37.000 Yair's going to spin.

02:52:39.000 What about a Mexican one?

02:52:41.000 That too.

02:52:42.000 Dude, you can't just have one like that all the time.

02:52:44.000 Oh, Twizzer.

02:52:45.000 Yeah.

02:52:45.000 Mix it up.

02:52:46.000 It's racist.

02:52:48.000 Yeah, I should definitely go with black Colonel Sanders.

02:52:50.000 Yeah, right?

02:52:50.000 That would be the best way to sell chicken.

02:52:52.000 Except the real Colonel Sanders.

02:52:54.000 The real Colonel Sanders is white.

02:52:57.000 Listen, have a black guy take over the Colonel Sanders and have it be like a D.L. Hughley character who just makes fun of white people.

02:53:03.000 And that's the new Colonel Sanders image.

02:53:07.000 Like a hilarious black stand-up comedian.

02:53:10.000 What if Joey took it over?

02:53:11.000 Tony Robbins does a thing about Colonel Sanders.

02:53:13.000 He wouldn't do it.

02:53:14.000 He wouldn't do it.

02:53:14.000 Could he do it?

02:53:15.000 No.

02:53:15.000 He would demand some sort of Latino name.

02:53:19.000 If they gave him one up money, they gave him a thick envelope of just fucking this.

02:53:24.000 Would someone think that it would be racist if you got a guy, like if you paid a hilarious stand-up comedian?

02:53:31.000 Like Kevin Hart?

02:53:32.000 He's too valuable.

02:53:34.000 He probably wouldn't do it.

02:53:35.000 What if Damon Wayans?

02:53:36.000 I'm not going to be rude.

02:53:38.000 Let's come up with someone...

02:53:39.000 Richard Pryor?

02:53:41.000 No, some non-real person.

02:53:43.000 But if you were a pretty decent stand-up comedian, really funny guy, and they were willing to pay you to be the new black Colonel Sanders, and you had a bunch of jokes where you only made fun of white people.

02:53:55.000 Martin Lawrence.

02:53:55.000 You would kill.

02:53:56.000 That would be a great idea.

02:53:59.000 He could do it.

02:54:00.000 What is this?

02:54:00.000 KFC taps David Allen Greer as the first African American.

02:54:02.000 I fucking knew it!

02:54:03.000 Get the fuck out of here!

02:54:04.000 That's great.

02:54:05.000 Oh my god, that's hilarious!

02:54:07.000 Now the white guy is so funny.

02:54:08.000 I love Panda Express.

02:54:09.000 That guy's hilarious.

02:54:10.000 That is so funny.

02:54:11.000 David Allen Greer is so fucking funny.

02:54:12.000 We knew it.

02:54:13.000 But that's hilarious.

02:54:13.000 We were just speculating.

02:54:15.000 Meanwhile, this is actually a real thing.

02:54:17.000 Oh, because it has to be.

02:54:19.000 That is just...

02:54:20.000 Alex Caceres coming on strong.

02:54:22.000 Yair Rodriguez.

02:54:24.000 Welcome to Deep Waters.

02:54:25.000 Alex with no fundamentals.

02:54:26.000 Gordon and Brian Callen coming on strong.

02:54:28.000 I never said he...

02:54:28.000 Hey Alex, he's going to hear this.

02:54:31.000 Caceres, I never said you didn't have fundamentals.

02:54:32.000 You're an amazing fighter.

02:54:33.000 You said he had bad fundamentals.

02:54:34.000 Just not as good as Rodriguez.

02:54:36.000 I don't remember what you said, but I just want to be really honest about this.

02:54:40.000 He probably should have stopped.

02:54:42.000 Somewhere in the middle.

02:54:44.000 I know you feel it too, right?

02:54:45.000 Like you got on a roll and you were defending your position.

02:54:49.000 No, I gotta defend.

02:54:50.000 I gotta keep defending.

02:54:50.000 I'm going down.

02:54:51.000 And you know that Brendan knows more than you.

02:54:53.000 Nope, I'm gonna die.

02:54:53.000 You know that he's right and that Caceres is obviously handling himself in this fight against one of the most dangerous guys in the division.

02:55:00.000 I'm going down.

02:55:01.000 And getting his own shots in as well.

02:55:03.000 I don't know about that, dude.

02:55:03.000 Yair is a fucking beast.

02:55:05.000 Look at the defense of Caceres, dude.

02:55:07.000 I can't agree with you, bro.

02:55:08.000 Can't agree with you.

02:55:09.000 And I'll tell you something else.

02:55:10.000 Those are two body shots.

02:55:10.000 Damn, he came at him with three straight strikes.

02:55:13.000 I told you.

02:55:14.000 Daniel Alan Greer will not be the first Colonel Sanders.

02:55:17.000 Oh, it's a lie.

02:55:18.000 He backed out.

02:55:20.000 He tweeted it?

02:55:22.000 David Alan Greer.

02:55:23.000 He's trying to jump in the pot and he doesn't have a fucking contract?

02:55:26.000 You know what he did?

02:55:27.000 He was joking.

02:55:28.000 No, he's honeydicking.

02:55:29.000 Was he honeydicking?

02:55:29.000 Hoping KFC would be like, yeah, that's a great idea.

02:55:31.000 That is a great idea.

02:55:32.000 Instead, KFC's race is fucked, like, absolutely not.

02:55:34.000 I would like to volunteer to make fun of white people.

02:55:37.000 If he gets that job, I will help.

02:55:39.000 I will help write some jokes.

02:55:41.000 I'll buy the chicken.

02:55:41.000 That could get ugly.

02:55:43.000 You gotta keep it white.

02:55:45.000 That could get ugly.

02:55:47.000 No, it'd get great.

02:55:49.000 Well, Popeyes does it, kind of.

02:55:51.000 I can't wait.

02:55:52.000 You gotta keep it white.

02:55:53.000 I can't wait until all fried chicken places just make fun of white people so I can eat fried chicken with zero guilt.

02:56:01.000 Zero guilt.

02:56:02.000 Feel comfortable.

02:56:03.000 Just mock all whiteness.

02:56:05.000 I'll take it for that delicious chicken.

02:56:07.000 Yeah, I'll take it.

02:56:08.000 I'll go through some shit to get that chicken.

02:56:10.000 I'm sorry things are the way they are.

02:56:12.000 I'm surprised the afro hasn't come back.

02:56:14.000 I didn't mean for anything anybody that looks like me did in the past.

02:56:17.000 I don't know those fucking people.

02:56:19.000 I have nothing to do with it.

02:56:19.000 I don't agree with it.

02:56:20.000 I don't agree with it at all.

02:56:21.000 Now I'll take a two-piece with a biscuit.

02:56:23.000 Just make fun of white people and give me some chicken.

02:56:27.000 Make fun of white people.

02:56:29.000 Anybody, please.

02:56:30.000 Let's level this playing field.

02:56:31.000 I'll roast them with you guys.

02:56:32.000 It's a disgusting thing that something as delicious as fried chicken isn't somehow or any way racist.

02:56:37.000 Everybody should be able to freely enjoy it.

02:56:39.000 Dude, I love grape drink.

02:56:39.000 I love a nice grape soda.

02:56:41.000 Try getting one of those these days.

02:56:43.000 For real, there is a...

02:56:44.000 I'm not being racist.

02:56:45.000 I'm not trying to be funny.

02:56:46.000 Try drinking a grape soda and just being cool as a white guy.

02:56:49.000 I had some buttermilk fried chicken in a restaurant in Atlanta.

02:56:52.000 It was so goddamn good.

02:56:55.000 That's not racist.

02:56:56.000 It was so goddamn good.

02:56:57.000 I had it two years ago, and I never forgot it.

02:56:59.000 Fried chicken's incredible.

02:57:00.000 It's so good.

02:57:01.000 Fried chicken?

02:57:02.000 How about there's a movie theater?

02:57:04.000 Oh, white people make Chick-fil-A chicken.

02:57:07.000 But this wasn't Chick-fil-A chicken.

02:57:08.000 No, how about this?

02:57:09.000 This is like a gourmet restaurant made fried chicken.

02:57:12.000 That's what I'm saying, though.

02:57:12.000 Old school way.

02:57:13.000 Well, I was just thinking in my head.

02:57:14.000 I was having a conversation again.

02:57:15.000 But KFC, Popeyes, right?

02:57:17.000 It's kind of, you know.

02:57:18.000 Right.

02:57:19.000 And then Chick-fil-A is owned by Mormons.

02:57:20.000 That's why they shut down, right?

02:57:21.000 No, it's not the Mormons.

02:57:22.000 There's some kind of crazy Christians, right?

02:57:24.000 Why people can like chicken, too?

02:57:25.000 But how about this?

02:57:26.000 How about there's a...

02:57:28.000 I don't want to mention your name.

02:57:29.000 Oh, shit.

02:57:29.000 You guys are missing a great fight here.

02:57:31.000 It's teeing off on Caseros.

02:57:32.000 Yeah, because it's fundamental.

02:57:35.000 It's fundamental.

02:57:36.000 It's so good.

02:57:37.000 Have you ever had that chicken baguette at the Arclight with watermelon barbecue sauce?

02:57:42.000 Have I had it?

02:57:42.000 I've lived it.

02:57:43.000 Oh, nice left hand by Rodriguez.

02:57:45.000 Yeah, that's racist.

02:57:46.000 With watermelon barbecue sauce at Arclight.

02:57:50.000 Rodriguez is...

02:57:51.000 Have you ever had that?

02:57:52.000 I sure haven't.

02:57:54.000 Rodriguez's style.

02:57:56.000 They close on Sunday because Christian believes.

02:58:00.000 What about his style?

02:58:02.000 His style requires a lot of exploding.

02:58:05.000 His style is all leaping forward and leaping back and moving forward fast.

02:58:11.000 There's a lot of serious explosions.

02:58:14.000 It's fun to watch, man.

02:58:15.000 No, it's great.

02:58:16.000 It's great, but what I'm saying is like it takes a really high level of fitness to fight this style because he's doing essentially like wrestling, but like with all these plyometrics built into it, you know?

02:58:28.000 He's like leaping forward and backward.

02:58:31.000 Where's Alex Strain?

02:58:32.000 Remember this is in Utah, so the elevation's high, but Rodriguez comes from Albuquerque, so it's not gonna be as high as Albuquerque.

02:58:40.000 So I'd assume later in rounds it's gonna favor Rodriguez if you think about that.

02:58:44.000 But he's also been teeing off.

02:58:47.000 He's doing crazy stuff.

02:58:48.000 How do you train for a guy like that?

02:58:50.000 I know that Caceres is from John Crouch's camp, and they do do some training up in the mountains.

02:58:59.000 That's in Arizona, yeah.

02:59:00.000 Yeah, they go into those Arizona mountains.

02:59:02.000 Arizona does have mountains, and a lot of people don't realize it.

02:59:04.000 So fucked.

02:59:05.000 Hey, Brendan, when he throws this right, the way his head's going all the way to the side like that, that's a really interesting thing.

02:59:10.000 Is that normal?

02:59:11.000 I didn't see it.

02:59:12.000 Joe, did you see it?

02:59:13.000 Watch him throw this right, and he ducks his head.

02:59:15.000 See what he's doing?

02:59:16.000 Who?

02:59:16.000 His head.

02:59:17.000 Caceres?

02:59:17.000 No, Rodriguez.

02:59:18.000 Rodriguez.

02:59:19.000 Really interesting.

02:59:20.000 He keeps punching the knee.

02:59:22.000 You'll see him go down, he punches the knee.

02:59:24.000 Oh, is that what he's doing?

02:59:25.000 Damn.

02:59:26.000 Although if Alex threw a fucking knee, he'd be in trouble.

02:59:29.000 But he's all the way to the side when he does it.

02:59:31.000 Watch.

02:59:31.000 What was that last one, was it?

02:59:32.000 See what he's doing?

02:59:34.000 It's knowing when you can do something, too.

02:59:36.000 It's like knowing when your opponent is leaning his weight backwards and being able to time it right.

02:59:41.000 Or knowing when he's committing to one side or another side and being able to anticipate it and time it.

02:59:47.000 It's a very one-sided fight right now.

02:59:49.000 Very one-sided.

02:59:50.000 Fun fight, though.

02:59:51.000 Yeah, but one-sided, really?

02:59:52.000 Brian, you're so connected.

02:59:55.000 Help me out with this.

02:59:56.000 Just think about what I'm saying.

02:59:58.000 You're so connected to your previous statement that you're not willing to enjoy this fight as it plays out.

03:00:05.000 No, sir.

03:00:06.000 You're wrong.

03:00:06.000 You're wanting this fight.

03:00:07.000 Alex is tearing him up right now.

03:00:08.000 Alex just hit him with a beautiful knee to the body and a nice combination before that.

03:00:12.000 He's not dominating.

03:00:13.000 There was a good shot.

03:00:13.000 Rodriguez isn't dominating.

03:00:15.000 I see a very even fight.

03:00:16.000 It's amazing.

03:00:17.000 Rodriguez is winning.

03:00:18.000 Look at that.

03:00:19.000 Oh!

03:00:20.000 Caceres just rang that bell, son!

03:00:22.000 It might be changing a little bit here, guys.

03:00:23.000 Brian, please, just listen to your voice.

03:00:26.000 The instinct in the back of your head is telling you right now to shut the fuck up.

03:00:29.000 No.

03:00:30.000 He doesn't have that.

03:00:31.000 No, no, no.

03:00:31.000 Because, no, I'm saying Rodriguez so far in round...

03:00:34.000 Oh!

03:00:35.000 Has been winning this fight handily.

03:00:38.000 Now it looks like, yes.

03:00:39.000 Brian, you sound like a guy in a movie.

03:00:42.000 Hey, Brian.

03:00:43.000 Handily?

03:00:43.000 Because I use the word handedly.

03:00:45.000 Is it handily or handedly?

03:00:47.000 Triangle attempt.

03:00:48.000 Look at this.

03:00:48.000 Rolling knee bar.

03:00:49.000 Pull it.

03:00:50.000 Oh, step.

03:00:51.000 Roll.

03:00:52.000 Roll.

03:00:53.000 Slippery, slippery, slippery third round.

03:00:56.000 Rodriguez is good.

03:00:57.000 Oh, yeah, man.

03:00:58.000 So is Alex Caceres, who's on top, bitch!

03:01:00.000 They need a real Mexican guy as a champ, as a big star.

03:01:05.000 Leg lock again, leg lock again!

03:01:06.000 What about that first round?

03:01:09.000 Caceres is hard to deal with.

03:01:11.000 I will admit that, man.

03:01:12.000 Fuck this.

03:01:12.000 I'm thinking about that first round.

03:01:15.000 He's making fun of you right now, Brian.

03:01:17.000 Whatever Eddie and Joe.

03:01:21.000 He's beating up Yair Rodriguez and he's making fun of you.

03:01:24.000 I'm ignoring your bait because I see the hook.

03:01:28.000 Guess who's winning this fight right now?

03:01:31.000 Alex Caceres is winning.

03:01:32.000 If this is a schoolyard fight and they pulled Alex Caceres off right now, everyone would agree that Alex Caceres won.

03:01:39.000 Alex wants to be where he's at right now.

03:01:41.000 He does not want to be right there.

03:01:43.000 Eddie Bravo is being sarcastic, ladies and gentlemen.

03:01:46.000 If you didn't know Eddie, you would assume he's on your side.

03:01:51.000 It's called honeydicking.

03:01:53.000 This is a good fight.

03:01:55.000 You know what you're doing.

03:01:56.000 Caceres won that round.

03:01:57.000 I'll give it to him.

03:01:57.000 He won one round.

03:01:58.000 It's probably 2-1, but it's close.

03:02:00.000 Please don't judge fights ever for fear of your own life.

03:02:03.000 For your safety.

03:02:04.000 2-1.

03:02:05.000 I know the fans listening are going to back me up on this.

03:02:09.000 I guess you're the...

03:02:10.000 Well, it's 2-1.

03:02:11.000 I agree with you there.

03:02:12.000 But I guess...

03:02:14.000 You're in the circle of trust here so you can judge the fights.

03:02:16.000 Thanks, buddy.

03:02:17.000 You know what?

03:02:17.000 And I agree with you.

03:02:18.000 That first round, he did win.

03:02:20.000 First and second, buddy.

03:02:21.000 First and second.

03:02:23.000 He's catching him a lot.

03:02:24.000 That's a nice straight left hand.

03:02:25.000 Let me know how Caceres is a loose.

03:02:26.000 Caceres is not touching.

03:02:28.000 That didn't hit.

03:02:29.000 That was beautiful.

03:02:30.000 He did, though.

03:02:30.000 He did.

03:02:31.000 He's not touching.

03:02:32.000 He's not really hitting.

03:02:33.000 Look at this.

03:02:34.000 Even there.

03:02:34.000 Hit him there, man.

03:02:35.000 Boom.

03:02:35.000 Hit him there.

03:02:36.000 A little bit.

03:02:37.000 A little bit.

03:02:37.000 He's caught a bump right there.

03:02:38.000 He's caught.

03:02:38.000 Yeah.

03:02:39.000 A little cut, deal with a cut, you know what I mean?

03:02:41.000 Brian, that was one highlight from a more than a minute of ground and pound when he was on top.

03:02:48.000 A little cut, no big deal.

03:02:49.000 It was more than a minute.

03:02:50.000 When I get cut, I go a little cut.

03:02:52.000 Two minutes, probably.

03:02:54.000 I'm not exactly sure how much time it went by.

03:02:56.000 It was around two minutes.

03:02:56.000 But he beat him up on the ground for at least a minute.

03:02:59.000 Beat him up is a strong statement.

03:03:03.000 You're being very strong.

03:03:04.000 You're being strong.

03:03:06.000 You're being a little strong.

03:03:07.000 Look at that beautiful round kick that Rodriguez has.

03:03:09.000 He whips it, man.

03:03:11.000 It's like a fucking weapon.

03:03:13.000 Look at him.

03:03:14.000 He's so quick.

03:03:15.000 See what he's doing when he's ducking his head like that?

03:03:17.000 It's interesting.

03:03:18.000 I haven't seen a lot of people throw rights that way.

03:03:19.000 He's obviously like super fit because he's recovered from that grapple fest.

03:03:23.000 He keeps exploding.

03:03:25.000 Super fit.

03:03:26.000 With his style, you'd have to be.

03:03:28.000 You'd have to be a cardio machine with that style.

03:03:31.000 Yeah, you have to be so ready to explode for five rounds.

03:03:34.000 He's connecting.

03:03:35.000 I would love to talk to him about like what kind of protocol he follows like for strength and conditioning because he's like all this is so fast like he's relying like a lot of his moves are like counter moves and like oh!

03:03:47.000 His angles though he keeps catching it's really interesting.

03:03:51.000 Well, they both have really good angles, man.

03:03:53.000 Yeah, they do.

03:03:53.000 I'm telling you, Caceres, you're looking at that afro and you're going, this guy's silly.

03:03:58.000 I'm not.

03:03:59.000 I respect him.

03:04:00.000 He's a bad motherfucker.

03:04:00.000 He's an amazing athlete and a great fighter.

03:04:02.000 Rodriguez is actually better.

03:04:04.000 He's also a really cool dude.

03:04:06.000 Oh, look at this, though.

03:04:07.000 Alex Caceres is a really cool dude.

03:04:09.000 I'm not being in any way.

03:04:10.000 Bruce Leroy.

03:04:10.000 I don't think I'm being in any way.

03:04:11.000 He's one of the nicest, friendliest dudes.

03:04:15.000 He's awesome.

03:04:15.000 I love watching him dance on the way to his fights, too.

03:04:18.000 I loved when he came out in the Bruce Lee jumpsuit.

03:04:21.000 The yellow and black.

03:04:22.000 That shit was so sick.

03:04:24.000 He looks like Jim and Kelly.

03:04:26.000 He was fun.

03:04:27.000 It's awesome when you guys talk over each other.

03:04:31.000 Look at that.

03:04:37.000 The count, Rodriguez has landed a lot more shots, but Caceres is so tough.

03:04:45.000 What was that?

03:04:47.000 Is that an assessment?

03:04:48.000 Is this 55 or is this 45?

03:04:50.000 Are you uncomfortable if no one's talking to me?

03:04:52.000 It just feels weird when no one's talking, right?

03:04:54.000 Yair, he's so good on the outside, but Caceres has an excellent idea of distance.

03:05:01.000 He's connecting when he's moving forward in particular, but Caceres is able to avoid a lot of the shit that Yair's throwing.

03:05:09.000 Bro, I can't get fried chicken out of my mind.

03:05:11.000 Love it.

03:05:12.000 Love fried chicken, man.

03:05:13.000 It's one of the problems with going keto.

03:05:15.000 Someone have a keto fried chicken?

03:05:17.000 Well, can't you do it with like...

03:05:19.000 It's goddamn delicious.

03:05:20.000 Oh, fuck.

03:05:21.000 Well, what we could do, you get chicken and just rip the skin off.

03:05:25.000 Listen, it doesn't have to be fried.

03:05:26.000 Let me tell you something about this fucking place, this Cuban joint in Encino, California.

03:05:32.000 What's it called?

03:05:33.000 Oh my god, what is that joint called?

03:05:35.000 There's a place on Versailles.

03:05:37.000 Dude, Versailles everywhere, son.

03:05:39.000 Oh, son.

03:05:39.000 They're in Venice.

03:05:40.000 I know, there's a couple of them.

03:05:41.000 I've only been to one.

03:05:42.000 The Cuban spot with the onions and chicken?

03:05:44.000 Oh my god, the chicken there.

03:05:45.000 They have this garlic chicken with onions.

03:05:47.000 Holy shit, dude.

03:05:48.000 It's keto-friendly?

03:05:49.000 Holy shit.

03:05:50.000 No!

03:05:50.000 Look at this.

03:05:51.000 I'm sure it's not.

03:05:52.000 It might be.

03:05:53.000 It might be.

03:05:54.000 I'll have to drink the sugar in the sauce.

03:05:55.000 Hey, who cares if it's fried chicken?

03:05:56.000 If it's fried chicken, fuck off and eat it.

03:05:58.000 It's not fried, I don't think.

03:05:59.000 I think it's broiled.

03:06:00.000 Whatever.

03:06:00.000 Eat the fried chicken and fuck off.

03:06:02.000 I'm telling you these Cubans are masters of the chicken.

03:06:06.000 I'm house-watering.

03:06:06.000 They're masters of this lemon garlic chicken with onions.

03:06:11.000 And they smother it with onions.

03:06:13.000 I mean smother it with like barely seared onions.

03:06:15.000 I love a nice onion.

03:06:16.000 Are you ever gonna not be keto now that you've done it?

03:06:19.000 Are you that much of a convert?

03:06:20.000 I think it's very beneficial for your health.

03:06:24.000 Is that it right there?

03:06:25.000 Yeah.

03:06:26.000 Ooh, beautiful.

03:06:26.000 Do you eat that?

03:06:27.000 Oh, look at that plantain!

03:06:29.000 Oh, sure.

03:06:29.000 Do you eat sweet potatoes, Joe?

03:06:31.000 Black beans and rice.

03:06:32.000 Yeah, I had a yam today.

03:06:33.000 And you'll eat black beans as well?

03:06:35.000 Yeah, you know what, man?

03:06:36.000 I follow more than it's ketogenic.

03:06:39.000 I follow the primal diet.

03:06:40.000 Can you do rice?

03:06:42.000 Very little, man.

03:06:43.000 I just think that your body should, at the most, get a certain amount of...

03:06:48.000 Some people think it's 25 grams of sugar.

03:06:50.000 They think that's probably the most important one.

03:06:52.000 Forget about carbohydrates.

03:06:53.000 The real important one, in terms of your own health, is never allowing yourself to get over 25 grams of sugar a day.

03:06:59.000 For most people, that's not even a single glass of soda.

03:07:02.000 That's hard for people to deal with.

03:07:03.000 Fruit, too, if you just shit a load of fruit.

03:07:05.000 I think that's smart, though.

03:07:06.000 It's a big part of Mark Sisson's ideas.

03:07:09.000 Mark Sisson said you need black beans?

03:07:11.000 You can't eat mayonnaise.

03:07:13.000 No, you're not really supposed to.

03:07:15.000 You could fuck around with it a little bit every now and then, but it shouldn't be a primary part of your diet.

03:07:19.000 What you want to do is get your body comfortable with eating a lot of avocados, a lot of flaxseed oil, coconut oil, healthy fats.

03:07:28.000 Guacamole.

03:07:28.000 If you're getting protein, you don't want to get too much protein.

03:07:31.000 You want to have a good, healthy amount of lean animal protein.

03:07:36.000 You guys gotta watch this fight.

03:07:38.000 You have to watch this fight.

03:07:39.000 You simply have to.

03:07:40.000 You don't have to do anything, bro.

03:07:41.000 Come on, out of respect for these amazing fighters.

03:07:45.000 Some guy came up to me at the UFC and said, hey man, can I get your picture?

03:07:48.000 I'm a keto kid.

03:07:49.000 I said, no.

03:07:52.000 No.

03:07:52.000 You said no?

03:07:53.000 No.

03:07:54.000 Think for yourself, you fuck.

03:07:56.000 You can't tell me you're a keto kid.

03:07:58.000 I'm kidding, man.

03:08:00.000 At my show at Oxfam, I had a bunch of keto kid t-shirts.

03:08:03.000 I take pictures with everybody.

03:08:04.000 I'm kidding.

03:08:06.000 That's so funny.

03:08:07.000 No, you can't, sir.

03:08:08.000 No.

03:08:09.000 You're not the keto kid.

03:08:10.000 Shut the fuck up.

03:08:12.000 No.

03:08:13.000 No.

03:08:14.000 No.

03:08:16.000 No.

03:08:16.000 A dude did say that to me at the UFC, but I was running back from taking a leak.

03:08:22.000 It was in between fights.

03:08:23.000 I like the idea of 25 grams of sugar.

03:08:26.000 That's a really good marker.

03:08:27.000 Hey B, how about at our last show?

03:08:29.000 I had an old Swinger Swinger couple ask me to go back to the hotel.

03:08:33.000 They wanted me to slang dick while he watched with his old ass wife.

03:08:36.000 Sounds like a good idea if you're disgusted with your life and you want to kill yourself soon.

03:08:40.000 I said, bitch, you gotta be crazy.

03:08:43.000 You gotta be fucking crazy.

03:08:45.000 I just need something really fucking gross to push me over the edge.

03:08:51.000 I just need one more thing where I'm just super disgusted with myself.

03:08:57.000 Go with it.

03:08:58.000 It's gonna work.

03:08:59.000 Trust me.

03:09:00.000 As long as you're not, you will kill yourself.

03:09:04.000 Are you sure?

03:09:04.000 Yeah.

03:09:05.000 Just fuck her in the ass.

03:09:06.000 She never cleans her ass.

03:09:07.000 She doesn't shave her asshole either.

03:09:09.000 She's from the 60s.

03:09:10.000 They didn't even know that assholes had hair.

03:09:12.000 Look at these guys.

03:09:13.000 Look at these guys.

03:09:15.000 Fifth round hugging.

03:09:17.000 I love these guys.

03:09:18.000 These are men.

03:09:19.000 These are men.

03:09:20.000 Brian keeps showing reverence in this encounter.

03:09:22.000 Well, they're hugging each other, man.

03:09:24.000 These guys are warriors.

03:09:26.000 Putting it all out there.

03:09:27.000 Please shut the fuck up.

03:09:28.000 Sorry.

03:09:29.000 Cliche machine.

03:09:30.000 There's nothing worse.

03:09:31.000 Hey, you're not on set of the Warriors.

03:09:34.000 These guys are leaving it out here in the ring, guys.

03:09:37.000 Next on G.I. Joe.

03:09:38.000 These guys are sweating.

03:09:40.000 You should narrate G.I. Joe.

03:09:41.000 Did you call me a cliche warrior?

03:09:43.000 You should narrate like a children's show about war.

03:09:48.000 He's never been so into watching a fight.

03:09:51.000 These men are all sinews and will, guys.

03:09:53.000 Here I am, in Warrior, me and Sam Sheridan.

03:09:57.000 And Eric Apple.

03:09:57.000 Powerful Eric Apple.

03:09:58.000 I like Eric Apple.

03:10:00.000 He's a good dude.

03:10:02.000 Sinews and will.

03:10:03.000 You know, Eric Apple had his wrist broke so many times.

03:10:07.000 I think, I'm going to do this injustice, but I think they had to shorten one of his wrists because he shattered it so badly.

03:10:15.000 Broke his neck, too.

03:10:17.000 And they told him, like, there's no way you'll ever be able to punch.

03:10:20.000 He's like, yeah, whatever, I'm fighting.

03:10:22.000 He's like, he fought with this thing.

03:10:24.000 Badass BMXer and badass MMAer.

03:10:27.000 He's a fun dude.

03:10:28.000 When we were doing Warrior, he went and got an x-ray because his neck was all fucked up, and he broke his neck.

03:10:33.000 Jesus Christ.

03:10:34.000 Yep.

03:10:34.000 He's like, oh, my neck broke.

03:10:35.000 Sounds like a complete lie, but Jesus Christ.

03:10:38.000 I had a chance to hang out with that dude in England.

03:10:40.000 He's a good dude.

03:10:42.000 When you're with people on the road, Eddie, you came with us, right, Eddie?

03:10:45.000 Wasn't it in England we all hung out together?

03:10:46.000 Oh, shit.

03:10:47.000 Why talk about this?

03:10:48.000 Because Sarah's on the town.

03:10:50.000 I don't remember one England trip from the next.

03:10:53.000 I know, there were so many of them.

03:10:54.000 There's been like ten.

03:10:55.000 Caceres on top.

03:10:57.000 Oh, Hammerfist.

03:10:58.000 Javier Rodriguez working for the leg.

03:11:00.000 Working for the leg.

03:11:01.000 Oh my god!

03:11:02.000 Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful job using the leg lock.

03:11:05.000 This is a great fight, man.

03:11:06.000 Look at this, Omoplata.

03:11:08.000 Not so good, though.

03:11:09.000 These guys are using it maybe to sweep, get past the right leg.

03:11:12.000 Oh, back up to your feet!

03:11:12.000 Are you kidding me with this fight?

03:11:14.000 Are you kidding me with this fight?

03:11:15.000 Wow, Brian, you really should be in an ABC after school special.

03:11:18.000 You should be the host for the next Gladiator.

03:11:21.000 Fucking...

03:11:22.000 Here's Turbo!

03:11:23.000 Whoa!

03:11:24.000 Look at him go!

03:11:25.000 It's a free country and I can express myself as I see fit.

03:11:28.000 My word!

03:11:30.000 What the fuck is going on?

03:11:32.000 Uh-oh, hold on.

03:11:33.000 Time out, guys.

03:11:35.000 We gotta time you fucks.

03:11:36.000 Hold on.

03:11:37.000 Any boring fight, Brian's going to bring into entertainment.

03:11:39.000 Wow!

03:11:41.000 He's perfect.

03:11:43.000 You're going to turn into the play-by-play guy.

03:11:44.000 I'm not bad, right?

03:11:45.000 You're going to turn into the Mike Goldberg.

03:11:47.000 I should be the third guy in the Rogan Goldberg.

03:11:49.000 Joe would kill him.

03:11:50.000 No, you've got to be the number one guy or the play-by-play guy here.

03:11:54.000 I think so too, buddy.

03:11:55.000 You would definitely get your ass kicked.

03:11:58.000 Someone's going to beat your ass.

03:11:59.000 It's going to be a matter of time.

03:12:01.000 Just a matter of time.

03:12:02.000 You're going to be like, Dad, I didn't mean that.

03:12:04.000 I mean, you're a warrior.

03:12:06.000 I mean, that's what I mean.

03:12:08.000 Is that your Brian Callen impression?

03:12:11.000 Terrible Brian Callen impression.

03:12:12.000 That's you trying to save your life.

03:12:13.000 The fuck?

03:12:13.000 Because some guy's about to beat the fuck out of you.

03:12:15.000 And they go, holy shit, fuck that.

03:12:16.000 Because he challenged his fundamentals.

03:12:18.000 I've never heard anybody that could do you.

03:12:22.000 Pow, pow, pow.

03:12:22.000 I've never heard one.

03:12:23.000 I've never seen him immature.

03:12:24.000 Nobody can do Joe, right?

03:12:26.000 It can be done.

03:12:26.000 It's not that good.

03:12:27.000 You're so out there and you're so pronounced and you got like such a character, but nobody could do you.

03:12:31.000 I could do Joe.

03:12:32.000 If I worked at it, I could do Joe.

03:12:34.000 Let me see you do it right now, Brian.

03:12:36.000 Look out!

03:12:37.000 I just feel super uncomfortable with these big fights going on right now, boys.

03:12:40.000 Oh, yeah, you're with the right hand!

03:12:42.000 Alex Caceres is a sweet defense.

03:12:43.000 Caceres is going to take crazy, crazy punches to the fa-fa-fa-fa face.

03:12:47.000 It's the afro.

03:12:48.000 The fa-che.

03:12:49.000 I love his afro.

03:12:50.000 Imagine if it was.

03:12:50.000 Imagine if the afro did actually protect you in some way.

03:12:52.000 It might.

03:12:53.000 Do you think it does?

03:12:54.000 People want Kimbo to cut his beard.

03:12:56.000 Remember that?

03:12:57.000 They want Kimbo to cut his beard because they said a guillotine or a punch on the chin.

03:13:00.000 It was cushion it.

03:13:02.000 There's an argument for chokes.

03:13:05.000 It does get in the way.

03:13:06.000 Yeah, for sure.

03:13:07.000 Makes it a little more difficult to navigate.

03:13:09.000 And a little harder to close up.

03:13:11.000 Correct.

03:13:11.000 But I wonder if that's a lot of hair.

03:13:13.000 That would act as cushion, don't you think?

03:13:15.000 But meanwhile, Kimbo Slice had a fucking magnificent beard, though.

03:13:20.000 Amazing beard.

03:13:21.000 I mean, for the sake of the people, you gotta let him have that beard.

03:13:24.000 You're gonna ask him to fucking cut it?

03:13:25.000 No, hell no.

03:13:27.000 It's like asking Chuck Norris to shave his mustache.

03:13:29.000 Look at Rodriguez, you guys.

03:13:31.000 Yeah, and look at Alex Cacero's coming out strong.

03:13:33.000 No, he's missing, but he's awesome.

03:13:36.000 Rodriguez is...

03:13:37.000 Oh, beautiful combination there, both guys.

03:13:41.000 They are both amazing.

03:13:42.000 This is an amazing fight.

03:13:44.000 A couple of men.

03:13:45.000 A couple of men.

03:13:47.000 But see, this is my question about Yair Rodriguez's style.

03:13:51.000 It's almost never been employed like all these kind of kicks.

03:13:55.000 It's almost never been employed this way for five rounds.

03:13:59.000 See that shit?

03:13:59.000 Yeah.

03:14:00.000 What's the question?

03:14:03.000 He's doing stuff that takes a lot of energy, right?

03:14:06.000 A lot of it is jumping and leaping.

03:14:08.000 He's not doing a lot of damage, though, is he?

03:14:11.000 He's not a damaged guy.

03:14:12.000 He's fighting a really skillful guy.

03:14:13.000 I mean, he did damage to Andre Feely in his last fight.

03:14:16.000 He knocked him out with a jumping roundhouse.

03:14:19.000 True, but before that, it's two decisions.

03:14:21.000 So good.

03:14:21.000 Yeah, but he's fighting tough guys, man.

03:14:23.000 And he's still doing serious combos.

03:14:24.000 Look at that shit!

03:14:26.000 Look at that shit!

03:14:27.000 Wow, what a fight.

03:14:29.000 Wow, what a fight.

03:14:30.000 What studs.

03:14:31.000 What studs.

03:14:33.000 That was a great fight.

03:14:35.000 Raise his arms.

03:14:36.000 Studs.

03:14:36.000 Alex Caceres is a good dude.

03:14:38.000 He is, but he lost that fight.

03:14:41.000 I was definitely not scoring that fight, and I know I was scoring it more than you were.

03:14:45.000 No, no, no, no.

03:14:46.000 There's no question that the only fight, the only round Caceres won was one round.

03:14:51.000 And that's no disrespect to Caceres because...

03:14:53.000 I shouldn't be talking right now.

03:14:54.000 It's no disrespect.

03:14:55.000 It's just that Rodriguez is amazing.

03:14:58.000 He's amazing.

03:14:59.000 God.

03:14:59.000 There was that one round that Caceres seemed to be winning, right?

03:15:03.000 At least.

03:15:04.000 Oh, for sure.

03:15:04.000 Yes.

03:15:05.000 We could probably give him two.

03:15:06.000 He lost the fight.

03:15:07.000 But I will tell you for sure.

03:15:08.000 Three-two, at least.

03:15:09.000 I will tell you for sure.

03:15:10.000 I definitely wasn't paying attention.

03:15:11.000 No, I wouldn't put money on it.

03:15:12.000 I wouldn't put money on it.

03:15:13.000 Me neither.

03:15:15.000 Listen, you guys, I didn't miss a round or a second of that fight.

03:15:20.000 It is super interesting, the concept of adjusting and changing how fights are scored and the new criteria for a 10-8 round.

03:15:28.000 That could also be a giant new issue.

03:15:31.000 Especially in three-round fights.

03:15:33.000 You're talking about a game-changer.

03:15:35.000 The guy has to get a finish, basically, to win.

03:15:37.000 Well, think of those two new moves, just the two new moves that we know.

03:15:41.000 The new hands-down position, being like, in order to be where you're off-bounds for head kicks or knees to the ground, you have to have both hands flat, palms flat on the ground.

03:15:57.000 Anything else, even the tips of your fingers, a guy could punt you in the face.

03:16:00.000 Really?

03:16:00.000 You know what he's saying, B? So remember, if a guy just had one down, you couldn't touch him.

03:16:05.000 Yes.

03:16:05.000 Now, and remember they do this, they do this thing, now you have to have both down.

03:16:09.000 Now a guy can knee you in the face, a guy can kick you in the face.

03:16:14.000 Damn, that's a huge difference.

03:16:16.000 So those two changes, and then the new change, the criteria of how to score 10-8 rounds, they're establishing clearer understanding of what does and does not constitute a 10-8 round.

03:16:26.000 And I think that's always going to be open to people's judgment.

03:16:32.000 You'd have to kill a motherfucker to get a 10-8 back in the day now.

03:16:37.000 Yeah, I've had some ridiculous conversations with people about what does and does not constitute a 10-9 round or a 10-8 round.

03:16:43.000 Explain how that works in boxing.

03:16:45.000 Yair won.

03:16:46.000 Yeah, of course.

03:16:47.000 Powerful Yair Rodriguez and powerful Eric Scaceres.

03:16:50.000 He's a bad motherfucker.

03:16:51.000 Great fight.

03:16:52.000 In boxing, all you got to do is knock a guy down and unless you completely...

03:16:55.000 Like, say if a guy like Andre Ward is beating your fucking ass all around the ring for two minutes and 56 seconds.

03:17:03.000 Is that 155 or 170?

03:17:05.000 Split decision.

03:17:05.000 Oh, this is 145. 145?

03:17:08.000 Yeah.

03:17:08.000 So if a guy like Andre Ward's beating the fuck out of you for two minutes and 50 seconds and then you just close your eyes and swing and catch him on the chin and he falls down on his ass and he gets up at the count of eight and they dust his gloves off and the round ends.

03:17:21.000 You win by 10-8?

03:17:22.000 No.

03:17:22.000 That would probably be 9-9.

03:17:24.000 Okay.

03:17:24.000 But any other circumstance when it's a close fight or a close round and a guy gets dropped, it's always a 10-8.

03:17:31.000 It's pretty much established that it's a 10-8.

03:17:33.000 So we know, if we're watching the fight at home, and we know, like, say if Manny Pacquiao's fighting some dude and he knocks the dude down three times in the first five rounds, like, that guy's fucked.

03:17:43.000 He can't win a decision.

03:17:44.000 He can't.

03:17:45.000 I mean, he can, but he'd have to knock Manny down.

03:17:47.000 In one round, so if you knock somebody down three times in one round, what would the score be usually?

03:17:54.000 Well, it's one point for every knockdown.

03:17:55.000 So it's 10-8 for one knockdown, 10-7 for two knockdowns.

03:17:59.000 And in most title fights, they waive the three knockdown rule so you can have some fucking crazy, chaotic shit.

03:18:05.000 Some organizations, they waive that three knockdown rule in title fights.

03:18:11.000 They'll say it in the beginning.

03:18:12.000 There's no three knockdown rule in effect.

03:18:14.000 K-1 took it to the next level.

03:18:16.000 K-1 had a two knockdown rule.

03:18:18.000 If you got knocked down twice in a fight, it was over because they made you fight like three times a night.

03:18:23.000 Damn!

03:18:23.000 Makes sense, though.

03:18:24.000 That's sick.

03:18:25.000 Yeah, it makes sense.

03:18:26.000 Do you fellas want a slice of cheese?

03:18:28.000 Nope, I'm good.

03:18:29.000 Getting knocked down once.

03:18:31.000 You're getting a pound of cheese, but it's so good.

03:18:33.000 I knew you'd love this aged provolone.

03:18:34.000 There's nothing quite like it.

03:18:35.000 My grandfather, 100% Sicilian, used to have a wheel of this shit.

03:18:39.000 Fuck you!

03:18:39.000 Is this...

03:18:40.000 You're for real?

03:18:41.000 I'm being dead serious.

03:18:41.000 I thought you'd tell the joke.

03:18:42.000 No.

03:18:43.000 Oh, it's amazing.

03:18:44.000 My grandfather would bring it home.

03:18:46.000 He'd bring a wheel of aged provolone.

03:18:48.000 Do you want to apologize to Alex Caceres now or after the news comes out?

03:18:51.000 I didn't say anything disrespectful, you fuck!

03:18:52.000 You said he didn't have any fundamentals.

03:18:54.000 I didn't.

03:18:54.000 I said his fundamentals were not as sound, essentially, as Rodriguez, and that's a fact.

03:18:58.000 Jamie, didn't he say his fundamentals aren't very good?

03:19:01.000 I honestly don't remember what you said.

03:19:03.000 No, I do.

03:19:03.000 I knew it had something to do with a critique.

03:19:05.000 I never said anything about...

03:19:07.000 Him at all.

03:19:08.000 But go back.

03:19:09.000 Take a look at the difference there.

03:19:11.000 That's what I just said.

03:19:11.000 Well, you know, Brian, it was a split decision, which means one judge thought that Caceres did enough to win.

03:19:16.000 That judge is an idiot.

03:19:17.000 Oh, I'm not so sure.

03:19:19.000 He is.

03:19:19.000 It's no disrespect to Caceres.

03:19:21.000 He's fighting an amazing fighter, and he did a great job, but he did get tagged a lot.

03:19:25.000 Look at that.

03:19:26.000 Our boy didn't get hit much.

03:19:27.000 Beautiful.

03:19:27.000 Isn't that crazy?

03:19:28.000 That flip kick.

03:19:29.000 He does.

03:19:29.000 I agree with you, B. He lost the fight.

03:19:31.000 I'm just saying, you can't tell from the naked eye that a guy doesn't have good fundamentals.

03:19:34.000 You just can't.

03:19:35.000 I didn't say he didn't have good fundamentals.

03:19:36.000 Yes, you did.

03:19:37.000 To a T! I said...

03:19:39.000 I don't remember what you said.

03:19:39.000 I said his fundamentals are not as good as...

03:19:42.000 You say that at first feet.

03:19:43.000 You said his fundamentals aren't very good.

03:19:45.000 I don't remember what I said, but I'm saying what I meant was...

03:19:47.000 Let's just give you a chance to clarify right now, because this has already been printed in like 50 different MMA websites.

03:19:53.000 Nobody cares, but here's what I say.

03:19:54.000 I think six wheels of cheese.

03:19:55.000 Here's what I say.

03:19:56.000 All I was saying when I was watching that is I said, huh, it looks like when Caceres throws the shot, he takes it in the face and misses Rodriguez.

03:20:05.000 This is round one.

03:20:06.000 And I went, and I saw it three times, and I went...

03:20:08.000 Well, and then I'd see Rodriguez throw a shot, and when he'd throw a shot, he was in a position where he couldn't get hit.

03:20:15.000 And I said, that looks like Rodriguez has better fundamentals than Caceres.

03:20:20.000 And I stand by that 100%.

03:20:22.000 You are a well-read version of the old man at the gas station that talks to his other old man friend.

03:20:27.000 I'm well-read.

03:20:28.000 I'm well-read.

03:20:28.000 We get together, and you're like, what he needed to do, this is what he did wrong, this is why you don't understand boxing.

03:20:34.000 Same guy that critiques Don Brady still in motion.

03:20:37.000 I absolutely agree.

03:20:38.000 No, I do some boxing.

03:20:39.000 I obsess over fundamentals, and I love it, and I think I'm qualified to at least have, with my naked eye, with my naked eye, sir.

03:20:47.000 To judge two professionals.

03:20:48.000 Sir, with my naked eye, I'm able to decide, sir, with my naked eye, sir, sir, if I may, with my naked eye, I am able to see who is actually a little better.

03:21:01.000 Well, the odds would grade you.

03:21:03.000 What you said, to a T, you said, Alex doesn't have any fundamentals.

03:21:09.000 Dude, what I'm saying at the end of the day is that if you have two fighters...

03:21:14.000 I'm saying you're not qualified to judge the two fighters.

03:21:17.000 Then I'm able to fucking...

03:21:19.000 Look at my fucking arms.

03:21:20.000 I'm going to fucking start doing more curls.

03:21:22.000 Listen, Yair is a beast, no doubt about it.

03:21:25.000 He's amazing.

03:21:25.000 I just didn't think you were totally fair to what Caceres brings to the table.

03:21:31.000 Life is not fair, Joe.

03:21:32.000 Correct.

03:21:32.000 I just didn't think it was totally accurate.

03:21:34.000 Well, I'm not living in a nursery school.

03:21:35.000 And I think you got a little defensive afterwards, and you started defending it in some sort of weird way.

03:21:40.000 And then it got worse.

03:21:41.000 Guys, I made a good case.

03:21:42.000 You got a little uncomfortable.

03:21:43.000 But listen, ultimately you can walk away with this fairly unscathed, because Yair Rodriguez won a split decision, so it's all good, but...

03:21:51.000 They're both beasts.

03:21:52.000 Beasts.

03:21:54.000 I'm a gigantic guy here.

03:21:55.000 I love Caceres.

03:21:56.000 He's 23. I didn't know who the fuck he was.

03:21:59.000 5-0 in the UFC. He's so good.

03:22:01.000 He threw up on me.

03:22:02.000 Holy shit.

03:22:03.000 Threw up on you?

03:22:03.000 He threw up on me once.

03:22:04.000 Who?

03:22:05.000 It wasn't his fault.

03:22:06.000 I mean, some of it got on my shoes.

03:22:07.000 He threw up on himself.

03:22:08.000 He actually threw up underneath his shirt.

03:22:12.000 It was one of his fights.

03:22:12.000 He had a brutal fight.

03:22:14.000 And while I was talking to him, while I was interviewing him, he threw up.

03:22:16.000 Jesus Christ.

03:22:18.000 Yeah.

03:22:18.000 He should be ashamed of himself.

03:22:20.000 Dude, I was honored.

03:22:21.000 You know one judge gave all three rounds.

03:22:22.000 I want to say right now, I'm honored.

03:22:24.000 I'm honored Yair Rodriguez.

03:22:25.000 You know one judge gave all three rounds to Alex.

03:22:28.000 Look at that, 46-49 for Alex.

03:22:29.000 I might have changed the story.

03:22:30.000 He might have, like, a particle might have landed on my foot, and now all of a sudden, I'm like, he threw up on me?

03:22:36.000 He doused you?

03:22:37.000 Still counts.

03:22:38.000 Bro, it was like that fucking blueberry pie-eating contest from that Stephen King movie.

03:22:42.000 Stand by me?

03:22:44.000 Remember that?

03:22:45.000 Lardass.

03:22:46.000 Yeah, remember Lardass?

03:22:48.000 Lardass.

03:22:49.000 That was a fucking awesome movie.

03:22:51.000 You know what?

03:22:52.000 I wish they'd recreate IT. I think they were saying they were gonna do something like that.

03:22:59.000 They're redoing the Aliens, you know that?

03:23:01.000 He's so good, dude.

03:23:02.000 Danny McBride's in it.

03:23:03.000 Ooh, I love it.

03:23:04.000 Me too.

03:23:05.000 I love it.

03:23:06.000 I love it.

03:23:06.000 I love him.

03:23:07.000 Alex Caceres.

03:23:08.000 This is a fucking fun fight to watch highlights.

03:23:11.000 It is.

03:23:12.000 When we're not trying to calm Callan down.

03:23:14.000 Look at that.

03:23:15.000 Look at that.

03:23:16.000 That's beautiful.

03:23:16.000 Yeah, it's called spinning.

03:23:17.000 Look at that.

03:23:17.000 Whatever.

03:23:18.000 Who does that?

03:23:19.000 And that's the last move of the fight.

03:23:20.000 Conor McGregor don't even do that shit.

03:23:22.000 That's the last move of the fight.

03:23:23.000 By the way, that's the same division.

03:23:25.000 How crazy would that fight be?

03:23:27.000 Conor McGregor and Yair Rodriguez?

03:23:28.000 Not right now, son.

03:23:30.000 Holy shit.

03:23:30.000 He's not ready for that.

03:23:31.000 It's a smart thing to build up to, though.

03:23:32.000 For sure.

03:23:33.000 Smart thing to build up to.

03:23:34.000 Yair is 23 years old.

03:23:36.000 Wow.

03:23:37.000 That kid isn't even close to his prime.

03:23:39.000 I'm making a call right now.

03:23:40.000 You're looking at the future world champ in that division.

03:23:43.000 Yeah, no shit.

03:23:44.000 He's 23. He's amazing.

03:23:45.000 That's my call, everybody.

03:23:47.000 Write it down.

03:23:48.000 It is highly possible.

03:23:50.000 Highly possible that at one point in his career he could hold the title though.

03:23:53.000 I'll tell you what.

03:23:54.000 To have a guy that talented at 23. That's fucking nuts.

03:23:57.000 That's crazy.

03:23:58.000 So good.

03:23:59.000 And have you ever seen him hit the pads?

03:24:01.000 It's really kind of interesting because he does all that shit as a regular part of his training.

03:24:06.000 You know a lot of guys will throw kicks like one, two, left hook, right leg kick.

03:24:10.000 Left hook, right foot.

03:24:11.000 Nothing fancy.

03:24:12.000 Yeah, nothing fancy.

03:24:13.000 And that's like the majority of their training.

03:24:15.000 When Yair Rodriguez does pad work, it's like jab, wheel kick, jab, 360 roundhouse kick.

03:24:20.000 His coach must be a beast.

03:24:21.000 One, two, flying knee.

03:24:22.000 Oh, yeah.

03:24:23.000 Dude, his videos online of him at a gym doing pad work are super, super impressive.

03:24:30.000 God, 23. That's nuts.

03:24:31.000 But I'll tell you what, man.

03:24:32.000 That is nuts.

03:24:32.000 I'm still a believer in Alex Caceres.

03:24:35.000 I'm a big fan of this dude.

03:24:35.000 You should be.

03:24:36.000 I've been saying that from day one.

03:24:38.000 Oh, Brian...

03:24:39.000 He has...

03:24:40.000 I mean, he has...

03:24:40.000 Oh, my God.

03:24:41.000 What the fuck?

03:24:42.000 Is that it?

03:24:43.000 Fuck you.

03:24:45.000 Holy shit.

03:24:47.000 What's that?

03:24:47.000 Brian, you have...

03:24:48.000 Brendan, you have your finger on the pulse of American pop culture.

03:24:52.000 Oh, yes, he does, dude.

03:24:53.000 Yes, he does, bro.

03:24:54.000 It's very weird.

03:24:55.000 It's time for a new it, and bam, look at that.

03:24:57.000 And you did it totally independently.

03:24:59.000 I did.

03:24:59.000 And Colonel Sandals.

03:25:01.000 Sandals.

03:25:02.000 Colonel Sandals?

03:25:04.000 You nailed the black Colonel Sanders?

03:25:06.000 Colonel Sandals.

03:25:07.000 It turned out to be a rumor, though.

03:25:09.000 Oh.

03:25:10.000 Yeah, that's bullshit.

03:25:11.000 They need a black one, though.

03:25:12.000 It was a rumor that he started himself, though, right?

03:25:15.000 Yeah.

03:25:16.000 He was just having fun.

03:25:18.000 That's some bullshit.

03:25:19.000 They should do it.

03:25:21.000 If they were smart.

03:25:23.000 They should get George Wallace to do it.

03:25:25.000 They should have Dave Chappelle do it.

03:25:26.000 That would be good, too.

03:25:28.000 Chris Rock ain't doing shit.

03:25:29.000 I don't think Dave Chappelle would be willing to do it.

03:25:31.000 Well, you gotta do it just because you love chicken.

03:25:33.000 I don't think it's that hard to get chicken.

03:25:36.000 You don't have to act when you're a multi-millionaire if you want chicken.

03:25:39.000 No, I'm saying you love...

03:25:40.000 What the fuck?

03:25:40.000 No, no, no.

03:25:41.000 I'm not saying you can't afford it.

03:25:41.000 You know how hard it is to get chicken.

03:25:43.000 It's just ground fowl.

03:25:44.000 It's so rare.

03:25:44.000 God damn it.

03:25:45.000 You love the chicken so much you don't care about the money.

03:25:48.000 So you're doing the commercial.

03:25:49.000 This rare ground fowl tastes just like...

03:25:52.000 Chicken.

03:25:52.000 I like your attempt at recovery.

03:25:54.000 I like what you tried to do there.

03:25:55.000 I'm for reals.

03:25:56.000 Of course they can afford chicken.

03:25:59.000 Michael Bisping looking very fucking well tailored.

03:26:01.000 Fighting Dan Henderson, it's true, in Manchester, England.

03:26:04.000 He's got to fix that eye.

03:26:05.000 That's going to be huge.

03:26:06.000 Is it going to be huge?

03:26:07.000 Are you kidding me, after that first fight, what this means?

03:26:12.000 This is a fucking crazy...

03:26:14.000 Imagine when they're about to go, Dan Anderson, Michael Bisping, about to go again.

03:26:20.000 Dude, it's gonna be fucking nuts.

03:26:22.000 Dan Anderson, he's retiring.

03:26:23.000 Win or lose.

03:26:24.000 That's gonna be nuts.

03:26:25.000 Is he gonna lose his eye?

03:26:26.000 That's legendary, epic, iconic shit right there.

03:26:30.000 Oh, I love both guys.

03:26:31.000 Love both.

03:26:32.000 I love this idea of a title fight.

03:26:35.000 I think that's one of the beautiful things about the UFC, being able to make crazy fights like this.

03:26:38.000 Dan Henderson was like, you know, I'm probably done.

03:26:41.000 I would fight for the title.

03:26:42.000 And I'm a legend.

03:26:43.000 And I'm a legend.

03:26:45.000 He's the first fighter ever to hold two consecutive titles in two different weight classes in pride.

03:26:52.000 Never got the UFC one though.

03:26:54.000 Never got the UFC one, but if he gets it with this and then retires...

03:26:57.000 Oh my god!

03:26:58.000 Goes down pound for pound, one of the best ever.

03:27:00.000 He's already in the running, right?

03:27:02.000 Top ten.

03:27:03.000 Forget about numerically, who's more valuable, who accomplished more.

03:27:07.000 Just straight up Hall of Fame legends.

03:27:11.000 Who's more legendary than Dan Henderson?

03:27:13.000 Randy Couture.

03:27:14.000 Yeah, maybe.

03:27:15.000 But Dan Henderson's right there.

03:27:17.000 He's right up there.

03:27:18.000 Randy gets a bit more because Randy won the UFC heavyweight title.

03:27:23.000 He won the UFC light heavyweight title.

03:27:25.000 But at the time when Randy did win the light heavyweight title, I would say it's more impressive what Dan Henderson was doing in Pride.

03:27:32.000 The guys he was beating, the drug testing...

03:27:35.000 Yeah, maybe.

03:27:37.000 His weight, his height, it's crazy.

03:27:39.000 How about when Randy Couture knocked down Tim Sylvia?

03:27:41.000 He's outweighed by like 50 pounds.

03:27:44.000 He drops Tim Sylvia with a fake inside leg kick and a bomb of overhand right.

03:27:49.000 Same punch, by the way, that Henderson used when he fought Bisping.

03:27:52.000 Remember when he beat the brakes off Gonzaga?

03:27:55.000 And it ain't the Gonzaga-Brennan Schaub beat.

03:27:57.000 No.

03:27:57.000 He beat Gonzaga-Gonzaga when he had a broken arm.

03:28:01.000 Remember he broke Randy's arm and Randy was beating him with his fucking broken arm.

03:28:05.000 Damn.

03:28:05.000 And then remember when Randy fought Leoto?

03:28:07.000 And he said, oh, Captain America, cool.

03:28:10.000 Kadoosh!

03:28:10.000 Tooth out.

03:28:12.000 That was the end of the road.

03:28:13.000 That was when he was 50. That was his last fight.

03:28:15.000 You don't have to bring that up.

03:28:16.000 Well, no, I'm just...

03:28:17.000 Why do you have to bring everybody back to reality?

03:28:18.000 Why do you have to bring that up, bro?

03:28:19.000 Why do you have to bring that up?

03:28:20.000 You know, it's amazing to you today.

03:28:21.000 I was there for his first fight.

03:28:23.000 How disrespectful you are to these fighters.

03:28:23.000 I was there for his first and second fight in the UFC back there.

03:28:26.000 I was doing the backstage interviews.

03:28:27.000 You and I... You were not there.

03:28:29.000 We and I went to the fight between Randy Couture when he beat Vitor Belfort.

03:28:34.000 We thought Vitor was going to kill everybody.

03:28:36.000 Remember that?

03:28:37.000 Young Vitor.

03:28:38.000 I never forgot that.

03:28:39.000 Powerful Vitor.

03:28:40.000 You guys all in shock.

03:28:43.000 Joe and I flew down to Baton Rouge or somewhere like that.

03:28:47.000 Well, Vitor was so big, man.

03:28:49.000 He was like 240 back then.

03:28:51.000 And I'm not exaggerating.

03:28:52.000 He looked like a lion.

03:28:54.000 Jamie, can you bring up Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture?

03:28:57.000 Yeah.

03:28:59.000 He punched like the tank, too.

03:29:01.000 He looked like Bluto from Popeye.

03:29:03.000 Well, Eddie and I used to work out with his trainer.

03:29:07.000 Which one?

03:29:07.000 We worked out with his dude.

03:29:08.000 We used to call him Garden Hoses.

03:29:10.000 You're talking about the real tan guy who's jacked?

03:29:12.000 He was purple.

03:29:13.000 He wasn't tan, he was purple.

03:29:14.000 He was a super nice guy.

03:29:15.000 And he wound up...

03:29:17.000 Oh, shit.

03:29:18.000 I don't know what he died from.

03:29:20.000 Damn, this shit's 30 minutes, Jamie.

03:29:20.000 He died really young.

03:29:22.000 Yeah, we don't have to see everything.

03:29:24.000 Look at the size of him.

03:29:25.000 Jesus Christ, look how big he was.

03:29:27.000 Handsome seller, too.

03:29:28.000 Just get deep into the fight itself.

03:29:30.000 Mr. Take Yo Girl.

03:29:31.000 Randy Cove.

03:29:32.000 I think this is like, is this the actual fight?

03:29:36.000 It's out there.

03:29:36.000 There it is.

03:29:37.000 Let's show it.

03:29:37.000 Yeah, start it from the beginning, though.

03:29:39.000 Start it from the beginning.

03:29:40.000 That's the end of the round.

03:29:41.000 Look at this.

03:29:42.000 I think it's just highlights, fellas.

03:29:44.000 Oh, okay.

03:29:44.000 Powerful.

03:29:45.000 A little before this.

03:29:46.000 A little before this.

03:29:46.000 John McCauley looks so angry.

03:29:47.000 John McCauley's age very well.

03:29:49.000 He looks about the same age.

03:29:50.000 Look how big he is.

03:29:51.000 Oh my god, look how big Vitor's back is.

03:29:54.000 This was, I mean, what do you think Vitor weighed then?

03:29:57.000 240. See, but this is like a prime example of having maybe too much muscle.

03:30:02.000 Like, you almost get too strong and too powerful, and maybe it's not like the right thing for your frame.

03:30:09.000 Not back then.

03:30:10.000 God, look at the size of him.

03:30:11.000 Woodley would beg to differ, Joe Rogan.

03:30:13.000 He's built different.

03:30:14.000 Woodley is thicker boned.

03:30:16.000 He's got bigger feet.

03:30:16.000 Woodley's also way leaner.

03:30:17.000 You ever look how small Vitor's feet are?

03:30:20.000 He's not a big giant guy, but, you know, he's a super athletic guy.

03:30:25.000 And, you know, he's had a lot of issues with his hands breaking because he punches so hard and so fast.

03:30:30.000 He's also been doing it forever.

03:30:31.000 Look there, man, he's been as old as fuck.

03:30:33.000 Well, you know, Vitor's had, I believe, at least eight operations on his hands.

03:30:38.000 And he also had a TRT pass for a while.

03:30:41.000 When did they stop shoes?

03:30:43.000 Randy Couture is wearing shoes.

03:30:44.000 That's right, Jamie.

03:30:45.000 Powerful Jamie.

03:30:46.000 That's crazy.

03:30:47.000 He's wearing shoes.

03:30:48.000 Used to be an option.

03:30:50.000 I think you could wear shoes up until...

03:30:52.000 Fuck, man.

03:30:53.000 When I was doing the post-fight interviews, it was always you could wear shoes.

03:30:57.000 And early on, it was no gloves.

03:31:00.000 I think the gloves came along later.

03:31:02.000 Early on, no one was wearing gloves.

03:31:05.000 Like the first fights I worked, maybe like a couple guys were wearing gloves.

03:31:09.000 Like Vitor was wearing gloves.

03:31:10.000 Tank Abbott used to wear gloves.

03:31:12.000 But most guys weren't wearing gloves.

03:31:14.000 Gotta have gloves on.

03:31:16.000 Randy said, in this fight, Randy said, I'm gonna beat him and I'm gonna beat him with boxing.

03:31:20.000 Yeah, well, he just kept pressure on it, too.

03:31:23.000 Randy's a guy that you can't take for granted.

03:31:25.000 Look at how different his body is now there, and look at his body when he's 48. I think if you do that, granted, obviously he's on fucking, he's juiced to the gills, but if you do that with any 48-year-old to 19-year-old, they're going to look different.

03:31:39.000 This is a pretty technical fight back then.

03:31:41.000 How old was Randy?

03:31:41.000 Well, Randy was not 48. This looks like a modern day MMA fight.

03:31:46.000 No, I'm saying Vitor.

03:31:47.000 Oh, yeah.

03:31:47.000 If you compare his body when he's 19. Anyone from 19 to 39 or 42 now.

03:31:53.000 Joe, how old was Randy here?

03:31:55.000 Randy, well, I believe he had his first fight in the UFC when he was 36 or 34. I can't remember.

03:32:01.000 I'm pretty sure it's 36. Well, so he was in his 30s.

03:32:04.000 Well, this was in, what, 1999?

03:32:09.000 Probably not that late.

03:32:11.000 It might be 97, 98. Well, I came along, I started doing it in 97, and I only did it for like a year and a half until they wanted me to go to Japan.

03:32:22.000 I was like, check, please.

03:32:26.000 I didn't call the fights back then.

03:32:29.000 I just did the interviews afterwards.

03:32:31.000 I definitely did the interview after this one.

03:32:34.000 You and I went together.

03:32:36.000 Randy, once you got that takedown.

03:32:38.000 So far, this fight doesn't look dated.

03:32:39.000 This looks like a fight that could happen now.

03:32:42.000 The technique is so good.

03:32:45.000 It's so old.

03:32:46.000 It doesn't look dated at all.

03:32:49.000 You're right, Eddie.

03:32:50.000 You're right.

03:32:51.000 Randy was a beast, man.

03:32:52.000 I think he probably doesn't get nearly enough respect or credit with today's fighters.

03:32:57.000 You don't think so?

03:32:58.000 Not today's fighters, rather.

03:32:59.000 Today's fans.

03:33:00.000 I don't think the people that are newly to the game, I don't think a big percentage of them go back and watch the early fights.

03:33:08.000 It's one of the things about Fight Pass.

03:33:10.000 I hate to be a show for the company.

03:33:12.000 Randy Couture's not on there, brother.

03:33:13.000 But Fight Pass is fucking awesome.

03:33:15.000 Not if you're Randy Couture.

03:33:16.000 He's banned from the UFC, son.

03:33:18.000 Come on, they don't have him on Fight Pass.

03:33:19.000 I'm almost positive.

03:33:20.000 Is that real?

03:33:20.000 All his shit's banned from the UFC, right?

03:33:22.000 He's not in the Hall of Fame, can't come to the events, sure as fuck not on Fight Pass.

03:33:26.000 Is that true?

03:33:26.000 I'm barely on Fight Pass, and I said fuck Reebok, let alone Randy Couture.

03:33:30.000 I thought Fight Pass was all the UFC fights.

03:33:33.000 It's not?

03:33:34.000 I would be surprised if Randy's on there.

03:33:37.000 Find out, Jamie.

03:33:37.000 I don't think you can totally say that without knowing for sure.

03:33:41.000 Look at this beatdowns with the scarf hold.

03:33:46.000 He's on it.

03:33:47.000 I just Googled it on my phone.

03:33:48.000 He comes up on it.

03:33:49.000 You can watch his fight, though.

03:33:50.000 He just gets tired here.

03:33:51.000 This is technical shit.

03:33:53.000 All this.

03:33:54.000 I know, but can you watch his fights?

03:33:56.000 Randy Couture will wear you like a sweater.

03:33:58.000 Well, we have Fight Pass, right?

03:33:59.000 Yeah, I guess you can check.

03:34:01.000 Randy Couture's a legend.

03:34:02.000 He'll wear you like a sweater, you fucking...

03:34:04.000 You guys don't know shit.

03:34:06.000 How's his fundamentals, Brian?

03:34:08.000 His fundamentals are sound.

03:34:10.000 They're sound fundamentals, you guys.

03:34:11.000 He's such a stud wrestler.

03:34:13.000 When I wrestle, I go...

03:34:14.000 I say to guys, I go, I'm wearing you like a sweater, motherfucker.

03:34:16.000 And I put my chest on his chest.

03:34:17.000 How often does this happen other than when you're asleep?

03:34:20.000 When I train, when I train, I always say that.

03:34:22.000 I go, you ready to be worn by like a sweater?

03:34:24.000 I say that.

03:34:25.000 And then when I strike with guys, I say this.

03:34:27.000 I go, hey dude, you ever fight a ghost?

03:34:29.000 You're about to.

03:34:31.000 That's what I say.

03:34:32.000 I like that.

03:34:32.000 Hope you like swinging in fresh air because that's what you're about to get.

03:34:35.000 And then I fucking pull a Rodriguez on him because my fundamentals are sound.

03:34:39.000 Does anybody ever tap to the canoper anymore?

03:34:44.000 Remember when Mark Kerr used to get dudes in that can opener?

03:34:49.000 Goddamn, I remember Mark Kerr got this Russian dude in the can opener, and it was so goddamn nasty.

03:34:54.000 They're nasty.

03:34:55.000 He pulled on this guy's head, and Mark Kerr was, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you.

03:35:00.000 You know the last one I remember?

03:35:03.000 Alistair O'Ream's brother against Ray Sefo.

03:35:07.000 In Strikeforce or Elite XC. Wow, that's right.

03:35:10.000 That's right.

03:35:11.000 Did Seppo can't open hurt him?

03:35:13.000 What's up?

03:35:14.000 That's the last one I remember.

03:35:15.000 Yeah, he got it from...

03:35:16.000 Yeah, it was weird.

03:35:17.000 No, Overeem's brother got him, right?

03:35:19.000 Got him, yes.

03:35:20.000 Overeem's brother tapped out Randy.

03:35:21.000 Do you know that?

03:35:22.000 Yep.

03:35:23.000 Valentine.

03:35:23.000 I didn't know that.

03:35:24.000 Valentine Overeem's a beast.

03:35:25.000 He was really good, man.

03:35:28.000 Was this a three-round fight?

03:35:29.000 I can't remember.

03:35:30.000 He was a heavyweight.

03:35:31.000 Back when Alistair was fighting light heavyweight, Valentine was a heavyweight.

03:35:35.000 Can't you just do...

03:35:36.000 I heard those brothers were nightmares in fucking the Netherlands.

03:35:39.000 By the way, look at how much time is going on in this clock.

03:35:42.000 Five minutes and 49 seconds.

03:35:43.000 5.50, 5.51.

03:35:45.000 Like, these are long-ass fucking rounds, folks.

03:35:47.000 I have a hard time.

03:35:48.000 This is not the old UFC. I don't even honestly remember how long the fucking rounds were.

03:35:53.000 Well, I'm distracted by John McCarthy's boat collar.

03:35:56.000 Well, how about what happened to Randy Couture's shorts?

03:35:59.000 You see what happened to his shorts right there?

03:36:01.000 His shorts are jacked and ripped open.

03:36:03.000 Still back to the boat collar.

03:36:05.000 Look at that boat collar.

03:36:06.000 There you go.

03:36:07.000 Boat collar.

03:36:07.000 Oh, there you go.

03:36:08.000 Randy Couture.

03:36:09.000 I just saw him.

03:36:10.000 Yeah.

03:36:11.000 The Lesnar fight.

03:36:13.000 I don't know if you can watch the...

03:36:15.000 I'm sure if he's on there, they're going to have them everywhere.

03:36:17.000 There you go.

03:36:18.000 Randy Couture, Brock Lesnar.

03:36:20.000 Yeah.

03:36:20.000 See if there's more, though.

03:36:22.000 See if there's ones where he wins.

03:36:26.000 Yeah, you can watch him.

03:36:28.000 Here's all his losses.

03:36:29.000 He could only watch him get his ass kicked.

03:36:30.000 He's Randy versus Chuck Liddell, one and two.

03:36:33.000 Oh, no, two and three.

03:36:35.000 You want to imagine if it was only Randy.

03:36:38.000 Oh, this one you could knee on the ground.

03:36:39.000 Can you just search for Randy Couture?

03:36:40.000 But imagine if it was only Randy versus Chuck Liddell, two and three.

03:36:44.000 You couldn't watch one.

03:36:45.000 Is he one and one?

03:36:48.000 Damn, Randy Couture is still taking it to veto here.

03:36:51.000 I forgot how long this fight lasted.

03:36:52.000 This is seven minutes into the first round.

03:36:54.000 That's some grueling shit.

03:36:55.000 And he had the worm, remember?

03:36:57.000 It's crazy.

03:36:57.000 The worm.

03:36:58.000 You would think you had a worm, too, if Randy Couture was uppercutting you.

03:37:01.000 Hey, what's CM Punk's favorite fight?

03:37:04.000 You would think you would have fucking all kinds of shit coming out of your asshole.

03:37:08.000 He'd knock you around like a fucking old teddy bear.

03:37:12.000 Is there no fucking search on this thing, Jamie?

03:37:15.000 Jamie, we got to get the new version of the Fight Pass.

03:37:19.000 This version kind of blows.

03:37:22.000 Not the Fight Pass, rather the Apple ITV. There might be a better version of that.

03:37:28.000 Here goes Vitor.

03:37:30.000 But if you like watching old school fights, the fucking resource of the fight library at the Fight Pass, it's so...

03:37:39.000 Oh, look at these.

03:37:40.000 Knees to the head.

03:37:40.000 Downed opponent, knees to the head.

03:37:42.000 Illegal maneuver now.

03:37:43.000 Look at that.

03:37:43.000 So think about all these things that are taking place in this fight with Vitor and Randy.

03:37:47.000 First of all, Randy's still beating that ass.

03:37:49.000 It's 7 minutes and 58 seconds in.

03:37:52.000 Beating that ass.

03:37:53.000 He's still beating that ass.

03:37:54.000 He's still got the endurance to beat that ass.

03:37:56.000 No rest.

03:37:56.000 Look at him.

03:37:57.000 Just beating the fuck out of this dude.

03:37:59.000 He's trying to break him.

03:38:00.000 He's one of those dudes, man.

03:38:01.000 If he feels you breaking, especially then, so close to his athletic prime as an amateur wrestler, he's a fucking straight savage right here.

03:38:09.000 There's the fight right there.

03:38:10.000 Just beat him down.

03:38:11.000 Collision course right there.

03:38:13.000 Randy beats it.

03:38:14.000 Hey, go to the bottom.

03:38:15.000 It says related videos.

03:38:16.000 I think that's Randy vs.

03:38:19.000 Vitor.

03:38:19.000 Woo, look how stud he was back then.

03:38:21.000 Goddamn Randy Couture.

03:38:22.000 Yep.

03:38:23.000 One of the best.

03:38:24.000 Capitan America.

03:38:26.000 El Capitano.

03:38:27.000 Go to Randy...

03:38:28.000 Go to Maurice Smith vs.

03:38:30.000 Tank Abbott.

03:38:30.000 Go to that fight.

03:38:31.000 God, remember Tank Abbott?

03:38:32.000 Fuck yeah!

03:38:34.000 How about Mark Coleman versus Maurice Smith?

03:38:37.000 Oh yeah, man.

03:38:39.000 Everybody needed a dude like Tank Abbott around just to let you know that you could think that all martial artists are going to be the same thing.

03:38:46.000 They're all going to be like Leota Machida bowing.

03:38:48.000 No, there's some dudes who get drunk every night and will beat the fuck out of him.

03:38:52.000 Roy Nelson is kind of similar to Tank Abbott.

03:38:54.000 But Tank is even crazier.

03:38:56.000 Way crazier than Roy Nelson in a lot of ways.

03:38:58.000 I'm saying from the looks.

03:38:59.000 You're like, get the fuck out of him.

03:39:00.000 Oh, belly?

03:39:01.000 Yeah, but he can fucking knock your face off.

03:39:04.000 I ran into Mark Coleman after he lost to Maury Smith, and he basically gassed in that one.

03:39:09.000 Remember that fight?

03:39:10.000 He was like fucking...

03:39:11.000 He was leaning over, hands on his knees, and Maury Smith was throwing leg kicks and shit.

03:39:16.000 He was barely hanging on.

03:39:17.000 He was like panicking.

03:39:21.000 I was working for a guy who was trying to start a magazine, an MMA magazine called NHB. And so I interviewed Mark Coleman and I asked him, what has he been doing since that fight?

03:39:32.000 And this was at a bar and he goes, look down, brother, look at my feet.

03:39:36.000 And I looked down and he goes, I got some running shoes.

03:39:38.000 I've been running, man.

03:39:39.000 I've been running.

03:39:40.000 That's what I'm doing.

03:39:41.000 That's the difference.

03:39:42.000 I'm running.

03:39:43.000 Look at Tank.

03:39:44.000 Hey, Jamie, go back.

03:39:46.000 Go back to this show, the audience.

03:39:49.000 Go back.

03:39:49.000 I wanted to point this out.

03:39:51.000 Go back a couple minutes.

03:39:52.000 Look how small the audience is.

03:39:54.000 This is crazy.

03:39:56.000 You had to be just a fucking meathead to show up back then.

03:39:59.000 And this is a fight that I was at, too.

03:40:01.000 I remember this.

03:40:02.000 Two thousand people.

03:40:06.000 Maurice, I was really interested to see how Tank was going to be able to deal with those leg kicks.

03:40:12.000 Maurice was so fucking skillful.

03:40:15.000 As far as like a real heavyweight, because Maurice is a real natural heavyweight.

03:40:19.000 He's a big dude.

03:40:20.000 But a real heavyweight that's that fucking good at Muay Thai, who comes over into MMA. And again, just like...

03:40:29.000 Like a lot of guys, he came over after a long career in kickboxing.

03:40:33.000 Super long career.

03:40:34.000 He's a legend in Denver.

03:40:35.000 Yeah, he'd fought for a long time, won a bunch of titles.

03:40:39.000 You said the weirdest thing after this fight, too.

03:40:41.000 I remember you said, after the fight, you were next to him, and you said, I looked in his mouth, and it looked like his mouth had different parts in it.

03:40:48.000 Like he had all these thick jaw muscles.

03:40:51.000 You just looked into his mouth.

03:40:53.000 The tank?

03:40:53.000 Yes.

03:40:53.000 Yeah, he's definitely built different than the regular human.

03:40:55.000 What's he do these days?

03:40:56.000 I was wondering what he did with that.

03:40:58.000 Besides getting money for the fucking health angels.

03:41:02.000 Wait for anybody to open their fucking pie hall.

03:41:04.000 God, you don't want that.

03:41:05.000 That guy in a bar with a bad day?

03:41:07.000 He's scary, man.

03:41:08.000 He definitely don't want it.

03:41:09.000 He benched something like 600 pounds.

03:41:11.000 Yeah, he benched 600 pounds.

03:41:12.000 He's a gorilla, man.

03:41:14.000 Straight up vanilla gorilla.

03:41:16.000 I always enjoyed him, too.

03:41:17.000 Me, too.

03:41:18.000 I always enjoyed watching him fight.

03:41:20.000 I always enjoyed talking to him.

03:41:21.000 I always had a good time with that guy.

03:41:23.000 He was supposed to fight this year, but he didn't pass his physical.

03:41:25.000 God damn it.

03:41:26.000 He was supposed to fight Dan Severn.

03:41:28.000 You know what?

03:41:29.000 What happened when he was physical?

03:41:30.000 That made me sad.

03:41:30.000 He didn't pass his physical and was removed from the fight.

03:41:33.000 Dan, they brought his belt out.

03:41:34.000 That makes me feel bad.

03:41:35.000 Maurice.

03:41:36.000 Maurice had a great sense of humor, too.

03:41:38.000 Was Maurice the champ, then?

03:41:39.000 No.

03:41:40.000 Was this after he had beaten...

03:41:42.000 Was this after he had beaten Mark Coleman for the title?

03:41:46.000 Because Maury's beat Mark Coleman, remember?

03:41:48.000 Oh, I remember that.

03:41:49.000 Remember he kept saying, come on, ground and pound me.

03:41:51.000 Yeah.

03:41:51.000 Ground and pound me, Mark.

03:41:52.000 Boom.

03:41:53.000 Dude.

03:41:53.000 Ground and pound me, boom.

03:41:54.000 And the way Maury's is, Maury's like the nicest guy ever.

03:41:57.000 So he's talking like all calm.

03:41:59.000 Come on, Mark.

03:41:59.000 Ground and pound me.

03:42:00.000 Ground and pound me, Mark.

03:42:01.000 What's he up to?

03:42:02.000 What's he doing?

03:42:03.000 He's got a school, right?

03:42:04.000 I don't know, man.

03:42:04.000 I don't know what he's doing.

03:42:05.000 He's a good dude, though.

03:42:06.000 Yes, he is.

03:42:08.000 Enormous heart.

03:42:09.000 He definitely has enormous heart.

03:42:10.000 He's just funny.

03:42:11.000 He had a great sense of humor.

03:42:12.000 Well, he's also very smart.

03:42:14.000 When it came to fighting, he was very smart.

03:42:16.000 And one of the things that he had above everybody is cardio.

03:42:19.000 Maury Smith used to do crazy cardio drills.

03:42:22.000 He would do like these back-and-forth sprints in the pool, like really hardcore long-range cardio stuff.

03:42:30.000 So when he got into these long fights, you know, because you've got to remember, we're not even talking about a five-minute round.

03:42:35.000 I don't even know what the fuck the rounds were back then.

03:42:37.000 I don't remember.

03:42:38.000 Can you find out what the rounds were?

03:42:41.000 277. This is back like UFC 12-ish, 13-ish, somewhere around there.

03:42:46.000 UFC 12 is when I started.

03:42:47.000 This is maybe like 14, UFC 14. Oh my goodness, he's so young.

03:42:52.000 That's a young Bruce.

03:42:52.000 Oh my goodness.

03:42:54.000 Crazy.

03:42:55.000 I can't believe he goes all the way back.

03:42:56.000 He's inexorable.

03:42:58.000 He's such a part of the thing, you know?

03:43:02.000 God, I gotta get out of here.

03:43:03.000 I got a fucking gig.

03:43:04.000 Do you?

03:43:05.000 I gotta do the store.

03:43:11.000 Scooch this up a hair so we can watch this fight.

03:43:13.000 UFC 12 was the first one with weight classes.

03:43:17.000 And UFC 15 saw limitations in hair pulling, the banding of strikes to the back of the neck and head, headbutting, small joint manipulations, and groin strikes with five-minute rounds introduced to UFC 21. Ah, UFC 21. So I was already gone.

03:43:29.000 What do you think of the 12-6 rule?

03:43:30.000 They upheld that, right?

03:43:32.000 Stupid.

03:43:32.000 Stupid rule.

03:43:33.000 Doesn't make any sense.

03:43:34.000 Go ahead, right there.

03:43:34.000 Right there is good.

03:43:38.000 Let's see how far away...

03:43:41.000 Tank is just trapped out.

03:43:42.000 This is a big giant ass dude.

03:43:45.000 What's going on with this?

03:43:48.000 Oh, see we missed a giant chunk, son.

03:43:53.000 I forgot Tank Abbott got on top of him.

03:43:56.000 Took him down.

03:43:58.000 I forgot that.

03:44:03.000 Maury Smith had a very underrated, very good defensive guard.

03:44:08.000 He went butterfly.

03:44:10.000 Back then it was very hard to pass his guard.

03:44:13.000 You couldn't just pass his guard.

03:44:15.000 Well, Maurice is a smart dude.

03:44:17.000 He's very smart when it comes to fighting, too.

03:44:19.000 He had a remarkable ability to remain calm in combat.

03:44:25.000 It's one of the reasons why he was so dangerous.

03:44:27.000 You could take him out like we saw with the Ernesto Hu's head kick, but that's a kick that takes out everybody that ever lived.

03:44:34.000 In the back of the neck?

03:44:35.000 It's just one of those kicks.

03:44:36.000 That's a brutal kick that he did on Maurice, too.

03:44:39.000 Everybody gets KO'd by that kick.

03:44:41.000 But what Maurice was...

03:44:44.000 Capable of was at a super high world-class level.

03:44:49.000 I mean, he's an all-time great when it comes to kickboxers from America, for sure.

03:44:54.000 Dude, Tank just passed Maurice's guard.

03:44:55.000 Holy shit.

03:44:57.000 I was talking so much shit about Maurice's guard, and Tank passes guard.

03:45:00.000 Maurice put him right back in it.

03:45:01.000 And you know what?

03:45:02.000 That's a transition that I did not remember.

03:45:06.000 Yeah.

03:45:06.000 It's technical.

03:45:07.000 Tank actually technically passed Maurice Smith's guard.

03:45:11.000 Holy shit.

03:45:11.000 Tank could wrestle.

03:45:13.000 Do you see this photo up there?

03:45:15.000 Was that tank trying to throw a guy out of the ring?

03:45:16.000 Did that ever happen?

03:45:17.000 He came close.

03:45:18.000 The guy didn't go out.

03:45:20.000 The guy stayed sort of in it, but it was an issue.

03:45:23.000 He almost fell out.

03:45:23.000 They didn't have a rule then.

03:45:24.000 I was going to say, do you win?

03:45:25.000 Good question.

03:45:26.000 You have to open the door and let the guy back in.

03:45:30.000 You'd feel like a real bitch to toss out the ring on a walk back in.

03:45:33.000 Well, I feel like that guy just wasted a lot of energy and time to go after him.

03:45:37.000 Morris is very good at surviving on the ground.

03:45:39.000 Oh, yeah.

03:45:40.000 As a kickboxer, I don't really know that many kickboxers with a guard as good as his.

03:45:45.000 Well, you know why?

03:45:46.000 Frank Shamrock.

03:45:47.000 Him and Frank Shamrock were very close.

03:45:49.000 And this is when Frank Shamrock was at his best.

03:45:53.000 Like when Frank Shamrock was the UFC champion, when Frank beat John Loeber in the rematch, like he was palling around with Maurice back then.

03:46:02.000 And I think they both helped each other a lot.

03:46:04.000 I think Maurice helped Frank with a lot of cardio, like really emphasizing how strong a role cardio plays.

03:46:11.000 And also with Maurice, of course, showing him like real proper kickboxing fundamentals.

03:46:16.000 You can see he's in his corner there.

03:46:18.000 Yeah.

03:46:19.000 Frank.

03:46:19.000 Yeah.

03:46:20.000 No, he was in his corner for...

03:46:22.000 I watched Warriors fight once in Drakka.

03:46:24.000 You remember Drakka?

03:46:25.000 I sure don't.

03:46:26.000 It was like MMA, but you could take dudes down.

03:46:30.000 Or kickboxing, but you could take dudes down.

03:46:31.000 It was real weird.

03:46:33.000 It was just an alternative set of rules.

03:46:36.000 Kickboxing with takedowns.

03:46:37.000 Yeah.

03:46:37.000 Do you remember it, Eddie?

03:46:38.000 No, Drakka.

03:46:39.000 Yeah, you remember that shit.

03:46:40.000 It's only terrible because you gotta get used to it.

03:46:42.000 After a while, you get used to it.

03:46:43.000 Say it again.

03:46:44.000 Drakka.

03:46:45.000 Drakka.

03:46:45.000 Well, Bellator, is that any better?

03:46:47.000 Well...

03:46:47.000 But it seems like...

03:46:52.000 Kickboxing with takedowns is a big part of what Muay Thai is all about.

03:46:55.000 Sweeps and other crazy sweeps.

03:46:57.000 Damn Courtney!

03:47:00.000 And Dominic Steele.

03:47:02.000 Well, they're a crazy war.

03:47:03.000 I need to go back home and watch that.

03:47:04.000 That should have made it.

03:47:05.000 That should have made it.

03:47:07.000 That's quite more interesting to me than just regular kickboxing.

03:47:11.000 Kickboxing with throws and shit.

03:47:13.000 That's more interesting to me.

03:47:15.000 Yeah, oh, James got it up there.

03:47:17.000 Is that Drakka?

03:47:18.000 This is Drakka?

03:47:19.000 Yeah.

03:47:20.000 Oh, these guys are using MMA gloves.

03:47:21.000 This is another next level shit.

03:47:23.000 This is new, right?

03:47:25.000 2014?

03:47:26.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:47:26.000 You think this is full MMA? No, it says Drakka.

03:47:30.000 It says MMA Drakka.

03:47:32.000 It's just some weird Russian shit.

03:47:33.000 Maybe Drakka just moved to MMA. They adopted.

03:47:35.000 Yeah, they said, what the fuck are we doing with this bullshit?

03:47:38.000 Oh!

03:47:39.000 That guy has on UFC trunks.

03:47:42.000 Mmm.

03:47:42.000 That you could buy off the website.

03:47:44.000 It's beautiful trunks.

03:47:45.000 Why not wear them?

03:47:46.000 Might be a UFC. Well, it's the only thing that's sad.

03:47:50.000 It's got both the underwear on as well.

03:47:52.000 See that?

03:47:52.000 With the underwear on.

03:47:54.000 UFC trunks.

03:47:54.000 Hey man, the guy's got a fucking dream.

03:47:56.000 He's obviously a bad motherfucker.

03:47:58.000 But the old Draco was kickboxing.

03:48:01.000 They had boxing gloves on.

03:48:03.000 But you could shoot like double legs?

03:48:04.000 You could do throws and stuff.

03:48:06.000 It was weird.

03:48:07.000 Like judo throws or like tight throws?

03:48:08.000 All kinds of throws.

03:48:09.000 There's some more time where you could do throws.

03:48:11.000 Oh my god, I gotta get out of here.

03:48:13.000 This podcast has gone on far too late, ladies and gentlemen.

03:48:16.000 I have obligations to go before I sleep.

03:48:19.000 You can find Eddie motherfucking Bravo on Twitter.

03:48:25.000 It's Eddie Bravo on Twitter, right?

03:48:28.000 And Eddie Bravo 10 on Instagram?

03:48:30.000 Yeah, at Eddie Bravo 10 Instagram.

03:48:33.000 Brian Callen is B-R-Y. B-R-Y-A-N Callen.

03:48:36.000 B-R-Y-A-N? Yes, Brendan Schaub.

03:48:38.000 Not Brandon, you fuck.

03:48:39.000 Brendan.

03:48:40.000 Brendan Schaub.

03:48:41.000 You can find Brendan Schaub.

03:48:42.000 S-C-H-A-U-B. Anything, boys?

03:48:45.000 Any dates to plug?

03:48:46.000 Go!

03:48:47.000 August 18th, 19th, 20th.

03:48:49.000 I'm at the Comedy Store Wednesday night.

03:48:51.000 Wednesday Night Comedy Store, Brendan Schaub's actual comedy sort of kind of debut, but he's done it already.

03:48:56.000 Awesome.

03:48:57.000 EBI. Kind of a debut.

03:48:58.000 EBI. He's done it already.

03:49:00.000 Anytime you do the Comedy Store for the first time, it's your debut.

03:49:03.000 EBI 8, September 11th.

03:49:05.000 Middleweights, downtown Los Angeles at the Orpheum.

03:49:07.000 You can watch it on UFC Fight Pass.

03:49:09.000 Here it goes.

03:49:10.000 Hold on a second.

03:49:10.000 Wait a minute.

03:49:11.000 This is Tank Habit coming out.

03:49:14.000 Something happened, and it's 7 minutes and 55 seconds into the fight, and this is where it comes.

03:49:19.000 These fucking brutal leg kicks.

03:49:21.000 You got a guy like Maury Smith standing in front of you, and you're exhausted.

03:49:25.000 He's just tired.

03:49:26.000 That's it.

03:49:26.000 We don't need to see any more of this.

03:49:29.000 Bye, everybody.

03:49:30.000 Thanks for tuning in.

03:49:31.000 Appreciate you.

03:49:32.000 See ya.

03:49:33.000 Bye.

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