The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion

00:00:00.000 Bam!

00:00:00.000 Don't talk shit now.

00:00:03.000 Oh, perfect timing!

00:00:05.000 Oh shit!

00:00:07.000 I know you didn't bring fucking wine.

00:00:10.000 It's about to get weird.

00:00:11.000 We have two bottles already, but you'll probably tell me they suck, which you brought us.

00:00:16.000 Have a sit down so people can hear you.

00:00:18.000 Boy, that stevia is terrible.

00:00:19.000 Wine and condoms.

00:00:20.000 It's the worst stevia ever, right?

00:00:22.000 There's no juice to it.

00:00:23.000 Thanks for nothing, Steve.

00:00:24.000 There's no nothing.

00:00:24.000 You could really shake it in there like it's less strong than sugar.

00:00:27.000 I think they watered it down or something.

00:00:29.000 God damn it.

00:00:29.000 This is that organic shit.

00:00:31.000 Lock this bitch.

00:00:32.000 Michael Johnson versus Benil Dariush.

00:00:35.000 Ooh, I think he loses.

00:00:36.000 That's a good fight.

00:00:37.000 Johnson loses?

00:00:38.000 Yes.

00:00:38.000 Really?

00:00:39.000 I think Johnson is.

00:00:40.000 Dariush is a fucking monster.

00:00:42.000 He is.

00:00:43.000 And on the ground.

00:00:43.000 But you know what?

00:00:44.000 So is Johnson.

00:00:45.000 Not on the ground, he's not.

00:00:46.000 But good luck getting him there.

00:00:48.000 Watch, son.

00:00:50.000 Call him the underdog.

00:00:52.000 What's his name?

00:00:53.000 Barouche?

00:00:54.000 Did he wrestle over eight years in college?

00:00:56.000 No, but he's really good at jiu-jitsu.

00:00:58.000 He's world-class on the ground.

00:00:59.000 It's pronounced Darouche.

00:01:00.000 Yes, but how is he going to get him there?

00:01:02.000 Michael Johnson is very hard.

00:01:04.000 To take down.

00:01:05.000 Oh, and his stand-up's better than Johnson's.

00:01:06.000 Wait for it.

00:01:07.000 Oh, wait a minute.

00:01:08.000 What are you saying?

00:01:09.000 I think Benil is really good, but you're underestimating Johnson's stand-up.

00:01:13.000 I don't think you could say one guy's better than in that situation.

00:01:17.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:01:18.000 I'd kind of lean towards Johnson in the stand-up a little bit.

00:01:20.000 Should we do a taste test?

00:01:21.000 Not me.

00:01:22.000 Didn't he get stopped by...

00:01:24.000 De La Rouge?

00:01:25.000 No.

00:01:26.000 Benil Dariush.

00:01:26.000 Didn't he get stopped by Ramsey Nijim?

00:01:30.000 No.

00:01:30.000 No?

00:01:31.000 No, he knocked him out cold.

00:01:33.000 He knocked Ramsey Ninjan out.

00:01:34.000 Who did Ramsey Ninjan beat that's really good?

00:01:36.000 Ramsey beat somebody that was really good.

00:01:37.000 Ramsey, you know, he's off and on.

00:01:39.000 Great guy.

00:01:40.000 Oh, he's a great guy.

00:01:41.000 He's a young fighter.

00:01:41.000 Ramsey got robbed.

00:01:42.000 He got fucked, man.

00:01:44.000 Holy fuck.

00:01:44.000 I cannot put enough Steve in this goddamn coffee.

00:01:47.000 Yeah, it's really sad, man.

00:01:47.000 Bro, Steve, yeah.

00:01:48.000 I call it Steve, Callan.

00:01:50.000 Hey bud, how you doing?

00:01:51.000 Benil, Steve?

00:01:52.000 What's up, brother?

00:01:52.000 No, he beat Benil Darius, dude.

00:01:54.000 I'm right.

00:01:55.000 He knocked him out.

00:01:55.000 Ramsey did?

00:01:56.000 Yes.

00:01:57.000 Ramsey Nijim in UFC Fight Night Nogueira vs.

00:02:01.000 Nelson.

00:02:02.000 What?

00:02:02.000 It took place in Abu Dhabi.

00:02:04.000 That's the one in Abu Dhabi.

00:02:05.000 Yeah, dude, I'm telling you.

00:02:07.000 Ramsey, look, Ramsey's had some tough losses, but he's a bad motherfucker.

00:02:10.000 He's a tough dude.

00:02:12.000 He's a tough dude, and He works hard.

00:02:13.000 He was so relaxed, too.

00:02:14.000 That guy was a beast that he was wrestling with.

00:02:17.000 You're saying his last fight.

00:02:18.000 Yeah.

00:02:18.000 That guy was a killer.

00:02:20.000 Andrew Holbrook.

00:02:21.000 Andrew Holbrook.

00:02:22.000 He got robbed.

00:02:23.000 He got robbed.

00:02:24.000 That's just bad fucking judging, dude.

00:02:26.000 Really bad judging.

00:02:28.000 There's so much bad judging.

00:02:30.000 But, you know, that Holbrook kid's a tough kid, too.

00:02:33.000 It was a great fight.

00:02:34.000 Really tough.

00:02:34.000 A lot of fun.

00:02:35.000 But Ramsey tagged him.

00:02:36.000 Ramsey did way more work, I thought.

00:02:39.000 I just didn't think it was a good decision.

00:02:40.000 He's also got a really big frame for 55. If you look at him up close, tall, long.

00:02:45.000 Ramsey?

00:02:46.000 Yes.

00:02:46.000 He's a long guy.

00:02:48.000 He's a really big guy.

00:02:48.000 Yeah.

00:02:48.000 He's just a tough dude and a smart dude.

00:02:50.000 I just really like him.

00:02:51.000 And I really like that Holbrook kid, too.

00:02:53.000 No disrespect.

00:02:54.000 I thought that Holbrook kid's a bad motherfucker.

00:02:56.000 Good wrestler, real tough kid.

00:02:57.000 And he took some good shots, too, and came back.

00:03:00.000 Eddie, are we going to bet on any of the fights tonight, my man?

00:03:02.000 Fuck yeah, you want to bet?

00:03:03.000 You want to take Toshera?

00:03:04.000 You want to take Toshera?

00:03:06.000 Eddie's looking sexy as a motherfucker.

00:03:08.000 Look at Eddie in his tank top.

00:03:10.000 Let's not talk over people, Brian.

00:03:11.000 Sorry, I got excited.

00:03:12.000 In the middle of negotiating some dollar-dollar bills here.

00:03:15.000 Who's that?

00:03:16.000 They were negotiating it.

00:03:17.000 Sorry, buddy.

00:03:17.000 I'm sorry.

00:03:18.000 I got excited.

00:03:18.000 For anybody who's never heard one of these podcasts before, you're like, what the fuck kind of podcast is this?

00:03:23.000 What's a fight companion?

00:03:24.000 If you just started downloading the podcast, what's happening right now is the UFC is on TV, on Fox Sports 1. We watch the card.

00:03:30.000 We get fucked up.

00:03:32.000 We talk over each other.

00:03:33.000 We talk nonsense.

00:03:34.000 We make a lot of ludicrous statements that get blown up in the MMA media.

00:03:39.000 We write three or four articles for them.

00:03:45.000 Three or four articles for these journalists.

00:03:47.000 And we have a good time.

00:03:49.000 They're just all on standby like this.

00:03:51.000 And go.

00:03:51.000 Go.

00:03:51.000 And so we'll let you know when the fight starts.

00:03:56.000 We'll let you know at the moment it starts.

00:03:58.000 Because if you're trying to watch it live, we're like five or maybe more seconds behind you.

00:04:04.000 How many seconds, Jamie?

00:04:05.000 Like ten, maybe?

00:04:06.000 Yeah.

00:04:06.000 Yeah, we gotta watch it when they do it.

00:04:08.000 This goes to the internet.

00:04:09.000 Yeah.

00:04:11.000 Joey's calling.

00:04:12.000 Joey!

00:04:14.000 We're on air right now on the fight campaign.

00:04:16.000 What's up?

00:04:17.000 I was switching around, but I forgot you were up there.

00:04:20.000 No worries.

00:04:22.000 Joey!

00:04:23.000 You hear a joke?

00:04:25.000 What happened?

00:04:25.000 You hear a joke?

00:04:28.000 What's up, brother?

00:04:29.000 How you doing?

00:04:29.000 Hey, we're doing a podcast.

00:04:31.000 Let's just do this podcast, Eddie.

00:04:32.000 Jesus Christ.

00:04:34.000 Let's do it.

00:04:34.000 What are you saying?

00:04:35.000 Nothing.

00:04:36.000 We're doing a podcast, Joey.

00:04:37.000 We love you.

00:04:38.000 We love you.

00:04:38.000 We'll let you go.

00:04:39.000 All right.

00:04:42.000 So when the fight starts, we'll let you guys know at the moment it starts.

00:04:45.000 We'll say ready now.

00:04:46.000 And if you can, just pause your DVR and sync it up with that.

00:04:49.000 There's no good way to do this.

00:04:52.000 The only way to do this really is if you watch it afterwards and you watch it on the DVR and you got the laptop there and you sync it up.

00:04:59.000 Otherwise, just enjoy it.

00:05:02.000 The good news is we're not ahead of you.

00:05:04.000 So we're not going to notice some shit and go, oh shit!

00:05:07.000 And then you go, when's it coming?

00:05:09.000 When's it coming?

00:05:09.000 That would suck.

00:05:10.000 That would suck.

00:05:12.000 But it's all good.

00:05:13.000 These, I discovered these.

00:05:15.000 Never gonna eat regular pistachios again.

00:05:16.000 They're already shelled.

00:05:18.000 Ooh.

00:05:18.000 Makes pistachios seem like nonsense.

00:05:20.000 That's brilliant.

00:05:21.000 It seems to me the fad these days because I found Starburst the same way.

00:05:25.000 Unwrapped.

00:05:25.000 Ooh, Starburst, unwrapped.

00:05:27.000 Unwrapped, guys.

00:05:27.000 Really?

00:05:28.000 How do they keep them from sticking to each other?

00:05:30.000 Look at Candy Boy over there.

00:05:31.000 What'd you say?

00:05:31.000 How do they keep them from sticking to each other?

00:05:33.000 They put talcum powder on them?

00:05:35.000 Yeah.

00:05:35.000 They kind of stick together.

00:05:36.000 I'm not gonna lie to you.

00:05:38.000 There's a reason those wrappers are on there.

00:05:40.000 Yeah, but so what?

00:05:40.000 Well, they're not as tasty.

00:05:42.000 I feel like the wrapper kind of seals the flavor.

00:05:44.000 The juices?

00:05:44.000 Yeah, for reals.

00:05:46.000 Let's take our time with this wine, guys.

00:05:48.000 Somebody may spend a lot of time making this.

00:05:49.000 So what is this wine?

00:05:51.000 You're a connoisseur.

00:05:52.000 I got us a beautiful Chianti, a 2010 Chianti, and Castello di Amma San Lorenzo.

00:06:00.000 Don't know what that means, but it's an earthy piece of work here.

00:06:04.000 There you go.

00:06:05.000 Now, the difference is you're going to get some earth in your wine.

00:06:08.000 You're going to get some leather and some...

00:06:09.000 Please don't make me hate you.

00:06:10.000 Sorry, buddy.

00:06:11.000 Sorry.

00:06:11.000 Just don't do it.

00:06:12.000 Don't start this off.

00:06:14.000 Ray Borg and...

00:06:15.000 Boy, how do you say this gentleman's name?

00:06:17.000 G-E-A-N-E. Jean.

00:06:19.000 Jean.

00:06:20.000 Jean.

00:06:21.000 Jean.

00:06:22.000 Gene, Mr. Herrera.

00:06:23.000 We'll call him Mr. Herrera.

00:06:24.000 Beautiful body.

00:06:25.000 Ray Borg's a bad motherfucker, though, and really good on the ground.

00:06:27.000 This should be a lot of fun.

00:06:28.000 That guy's got a great body and a skin on him.

00:06:30.000 Both of them do.

00:06:30.000 Shredded.

00:06:31.000 You have to be.

00:06:31.000 They're fighting 155 or 45?

00:06:33.000 No, that's smaller.

00:06:34.000 I think that's 45. You ever seen a fat 45-er?

00:06:36.000 That's a bad sign.

00:06:38.000 Yeah, that's not good.

00:06:39.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:06:39.000 That's danger.

00:06:41.000 No one's like, God, this 45-er's out of shape, everybody.

00:06:43.000 He's a chub-chub.

00:06:44.000 Yeah.

00:06:44.000 Check out the love handles on that 45-er.

00:06:46.000 I've seen a few 55-ers that were, like, a little on that body fat side.

00:06:49.000 Really?

00:06:50.000 Yeah.

00:06:50.000 Are featherweights too big for you, personally?

00:06:53.000 A little bit.

00:06:53.000 Dude, these guys are 125s.

00:06:56.000 You're in my pocket.

00:06:57.000 You are in my pocket.

00:06:59.000 What?

00:07:00.000 Too light in the ass for you, Cal?

00:07:02.000 I'm very happy with Bravo's hair and shoulders.

00:07:04.000 Me too, man.

00:07:04.000 You look good.

00:07:06.000 He's a beautiful man.

00:07:07.000 He's a beautifully young man.

00:07:08.000 Thank you.

00:07:08.000 Bravo's a beautiful man.

00:07:09.000 45, son.

00:07:10.000 That's young to me.

00:07:11.000 That's young to me.

00:07:12.000 You don't look it, man.

00:07:13.000 Thank you.

00:07:13.000 I just shaved.

00:07:14.000 He doesn't look 45. He had a gray beard an hour ago, so...

00:07:17.000 Yeah, he doesn't look 45 at all.

00:07:19.000 Not at all.

00:07:20.000 Thank you.

00:07:20.000 You look beautiful.

00:07:21.000 Every bit of 28. Jesus.

00:07:22.000 Really?

00:07:23.000 I would say 28. I'd give you 32, 33. Dude, they're trying to fuck you.

00:07:28.000 No, that's bullshit.

00:07:31.000 We're going to this party.

00:07:32.000 You should come with us.

00:07:33.000 It'd be just the two of us.

00:07:35.000 I know that you think that you can just be friends with guys.

00:07:37.000 Have you seen the moon at 10 and 11 on the beach?

00:07:42.000 There's a sushi restaurant at the top.

00:07:46.000 Of La Cienega.

00:07:47.000 Have you ever seen the Sunset Marina?

00:07:50.000 We'll figure it out, man.

00:07:52.000 Have you ever done one-step sparring?

00:07:54.000 Here we go.

00:07:54.000 Ready?

00:07:55.000 Fights 4.57 on the clock right now.

00:07:58.000 So here we go.

00:07:59.000 First fight of the night.

00:08:00.000 4.50.

00:08:03.000 Right there.

00:08:04.000 Bam.

00:08:05.000 So sync that bitch up.

00:08:06.000 Oh, right hand.

00:08:07.000 I mean, I'm just going to start.

00:08:08.000 Look at this.

00:08:08.000 Damn!

00:08:09.000 Borg with a big takedown.

00:08:10.000 Terrible wrestling.

00:08:14.000 Borg is strong as fuck, man.

00:08:16.000 Bro, in every fight, I know you let me know what you think, but their trunks drive me fucking nuts.

00:08:21.000 White and black and black and white.

00:08:22.000 Hey, how about we switch it up?

00:08:24.000 Why not red and blue?

00:08:25.000 The corners.

00:08:26.000 Red, blue.

00:08:27.000 It's confusing.

00:08:28.000 They had a whole warehouse of shit that they had to get rid of, and that's the first stuff that we're going to...

00:08:32.000 Because they have to supply them.

00:08:33.000 How cool is it for the UFC? Reebok steps in and they give them all this cash, and it doesn't cost them anything.

00:08:40.000 They give them cash, and...

00:08:42.000 They get to dress their fighters.

00:08:44.000 Did you see the Reebok guy?

00:08:46.000 What a great deal.

00:08:46.000 Did you see the interview, Joe?

00:08:48.000 No.

00:08:49.000 I think he's the president or he has something to do.

00:08:51.000 He's like the head of something with Reebok that deals with the UFC. He said, your ass is next in line to be wearing Reebok.

00:08:57.000 What does that mean?

00:08:58.000 It means that he basically said they rushed to get things done because they said, you know, how come some fighters' names are misspelled?

00:09:05.000 And he goes, listen, there's over 500 guys.

00:09:07.000 What do you expect?

00:09:08.000 We'll for sure spell people's names right and have everyone on there.

00:09:10.000 That's what I expect.

00:09:12.000 And then he goes, you know, we didn't think far enough ahead.

00:09:14.000 We just want to get this out.

00:09:15.000 So we didn't think about the Ring Card Girls or Joe Rogan.

00:09:19.000 It doesn't matter.

00:09:20.000 I don't have a contract with them.

00:09:21.000 Well, you're going to be wearing pumps, my man.

00:09:22.000 It's just the way it is.

00:09:24.000 Welcome.

00:09:24.000 I'm going to wear what I feel like wearing.

00:09:26.000 Well, you better like pumps, then.

00:09:28.000 Or I won't do it.

00:09:29.000 I don't have to do it.

00:09:31.000 Unless I had some sort of a deal with Reebok, I'm not going to wear their stuff for free.

00:09:35.000 I'm just not.

00:09:36.000 It just doesn't make any sense to me.

00:09:38.000 I'm not a fighter.

00:09:39.000 I'm not in the same situation where you get paid for it.

00:09:40.000 And I would have to decide whether or not I would want to do that.

00:09:44.000 That's the problematic aspect to this.

00:09:47.000 There's many, but that's one of the big ones.

00:09:49.000 But if they offer you a contract and they're like, hey, we need you to wear these UFC Reebok pumps for every show.

00:09:54.000 You know what I like, dude?

00:09:55.000 I like chucks.

00:09:56.000 Me too, brother.

00:09:56.000 I wear them all the time.

00:09:58.000 Fuck yes, Rogan.

00:09:59.000 If Converse wants to come with some cash, I got you.

00:10:02.000 You know why?

00:10:02.000 Because these are what I like.

00:10:03.000 I wear these all the time.

00:10:05.000 It's all I wear.

00:10:05.000 There's been amazing jiu-jitsu going on, man, and we're talking about Reebok.

00:10:09.000 Occasionally I'll wear Nike.

00:10:11.000 Yeah.

00:10:12.000 And I would wear Reebok if they were cool sneakers.

00:10:14.000 I don't have a brand that I love.

00:10:17.000 Both of these guys are really good on the ground.

00:10:21.000 Both are really good, man.

00:10:23.000 We're seeing a high-level jiu-jitsu match right here, seriously.

00:10:26.000 These guys are awesome.

00:10:29.000 Yeah, a lot of jiu-jitsu and thrown in with punches and shit, too.

00:10:32.000 And I don't know any- I don't know either of these guys.

00:10:34.000 Did you see the Jake Shields series- Speaking of which, because he's going for this Kimura.

00:10:37.000 Did you see the Jake Shields-Poharis fight?

00:10:39.000 Yes!

00:10:40.000 How fucked up was that?

00:10:42.000 Poking his eye eight times and stuff like that?

00:10:43.000 Is Paul Ahari the most Danish guy in the world?

00:10:45.000 I think so.

00:10:46.000 He's scary.

00:10:47.000 He's gonna poke you in the eye and rip your fucking arm off.

00:10:49.000 Well, he's also taking stuff to some crazy different primal level.

00:10:53.000 You know, like the eye poking and the holding, the submission, even after all he's been through.

00:10:58.000 He's been kicked out of the UFC for it, and he still holds submissions.

00:11:01.000 You know, they warned him in the back.

00:11:03.000 That's why he got banned, because in the back they go, listen, if you get a submission, do not hang on to it.

00:11:10.000 We're not giving you another warning.

00:11:11.000 This is it.

00:11:12.000 What's this motherfucker do?

00:11:13.000 Yeah.

00:11:14.000 Hangs on to it.

00:11:14.000 Jake Shields was just owning him, just controlling him on the ground.

00:11:17.000 Then he started poking him in the eye.

00:11:19.000 You know?

00:11:19.000 It was just really fucked up.

00:11:21.000 And really messed his eyes up, by the way.

00:11:23.000 Really messed his eyes up.

00:11:24.000 His eyes look really bad.

00:11:25.000 He's just a scary dude, man.

00:11:27.000 But he did catch that submission.

00:11:29.000 He legitimately caught Jake.

00:11:31.000 Legitimately caught him.

00:11:32.000 So the end of the fight is not in dispute, but how did he get there?

00:11:34.000 Jake couldn't see.

00:11:35.000 Jake couldn't see in round three.

00:11:37.000 He could not see.

00:11:38.000 He was like, I can't see.

00:11:39.000 And Tariq wanted to call the fight, and he goes, don't call it.

00:11:42.000 He couldn't see.

00:11:43.000 He literally was fighting at blurs.

00:11:47.000 Jake Shields is one of the best passers in MMA, period.

00:11:52.000 He's one of the best passers in the whole game, if not the best, if not the best.

00:11:57.000 He's awesome at passing.

00:11:58.000 And he passed Husamar Paharis' guard a few times, and that itself was impressive, because Paharis' jiu-jitsu all the way around is top-notch.

00:12:07.000 He's not just going He's good at leg locks.

00:12:09.000 He doesn't have any holes in his game.

00:12:11.000 He's world class.

00:12:11.000 He's world class everywhere.

00:12:13.000 And the one thing that I was really impressed with is his side control escapes.

00:12:17.000 His guard recovery.

00:12:18.000 If you watch that, it was beautiful escapes.

00:12:21.000 You're talking about Paul Harris or Paul Harris?

00:12:23.000 Paul Harris.

00:12:24.000 The way he dismounted and the way he...

00:12:26.000 Because Jake Shields was passing his shit.

00:12:28.000 It wasn't easy.

00:12:29.000 But he ruins all that.

00:12:30.000 He ruins all that being a fucking...

00:12:32.000 This is what I'm saying.

00:12:33.000 Look at this triangle attempt.

00:12:34.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:12:35.000 It's very primal when he's fighting.

00:12:38.000 It's animal shit.

00:12:39.000 Did the Jick Shield shoulder, did it get tore off?

00:12:43.000 He has some damage, yeah.

00:12:45.000 There's damage in there?

00:12:45.000 There's gotta be.

00:12:46.000 His shoulder and his eyes are all jacked up.

00:12:49.000 What about Magusaki?

00:12:51.000 Mazzagatti.

00:12:52.000 He's just not good.

00:12:54.000 Mazzagatti just...

00:12:55.000 Look, Dana's been saying it for years that he's the worst referee in the business.

00:12:58.000 I don't know if he's the worst, but he's made some fucking giant errors.

00:13:01.000 He's up there, bro.

00:13:01.000 He made a big error in the Frank Mir-Brock Lesnar fight.

00:13:04.000 That's one of the big ones, because Brock Lesnar was completely locked up in a submission, and he took too fucking long.

00:13:10.000 There was tap, tap, tap, and then he's moving in.

00:13:13.000 He doesn't train, and if he doesn't train, he's never been tapped.

00:13:15.000 If he doesn't tap, especially to a leg lock like that, he doesn't know how close you are to getting your shit destroyed.

00:13:20.000 Well, that's what big John McCarthy was saying.

00:13:22.000 He trains every day in jiu-jitsu, and he goes, I train to keep up with the kids.

00:13:26.000 Yeah, he goes, I train to keep up so I know what's going on.

00:13:28.000 A lot of these guys don't train, so they don't know what the fuck's going on.

00:13:29.000 Well, Mazzagato is in the wrong place, too.

00:13:31.000 You don't tap the guy's back.

00:13:32.000 Hell no!

00:13:33.000 The guys get a fully locked kimura.

00:13:34.000 You get in between them.

00:13:36.000 You let him know without any question that the thing touching his back is not the fight.

00:13:42.000 Tapping on his back?

00:13:42.000 Because he doesn't know.

00:13:43.000 Look, Paul Jarez is a fucking gorilla, right?

00:13:46.000 He's destroying.

00:13:47.000 He's in the middle of yanking, he's in the middle of winning, and he feels something touching his back.

00:13:52.000 He doesn't know what the fuck it is.

00:13:53.000 I mean, it's almost not his fault.

00:13:55.000 He knew that Jake Shields was tapping, for sure.

00:13:58.000 But, Murillo Bustamante, who was his coach, almost lost to Matt Lindland, tapped him and then had a tap again.

00:14:04.000 I shouldn't say almost lost because he dominated the fight.

00:14:06.000 But he got fucked because he tapped Matt Lindland.

00:14:09.000 He caught Lindland in an arm bar.

00:14:10.000 Lindland said he tapped, but then let go.

00:14:13.000 And then he caught him in a guillotine and finished.

00:14:16.000 You know what?

00:14:17.000 You can't blame that on Mazzagotti, man.

00:14:19.000 That was who Samar Paharis's...

00:14:22.000 It's both.

00:14:22.000 It's a combination of both.

00:14:24.000 It's both.

00:14:24.000 I guarantee you, if John McCarthy was refereeing that match, it would have been different.

00:14:28.000 100%.

00:14:28.000 John would have bowled him over.

00:14:30.000 But you've got to remember.

00:14:31.000 He also probably would have taken a point away from that blatant eye catch.

00:14:34.000 Exactly.

00:14:34.000 As would Herb Dean.

00:14:35.000 Yes.

00:14:36.000 They were shouting.

00:14:38.000 He's gouging his eyes, and Shields kept going, and his eyes were bleeding.

00:14:41.000 Well, did you hear what Mazgati said?

00:14:41.000 He said, I'll take care of it.

00:14:43.000 And Jake said, no, you won't.

00:14:44.000 No, you're not doing anything.

00:14:46.000 I'll take care of it.

00:14:47.000 What does that mean?

00:14:48.000 You're going to talk to him?

00:14:48.000 He's going to smile at you and poke him in the eye.

00:14:50.000 That was one thing for sure.

00:14:53.000 Maybe Mazzagotti fucked up really bad there.

00:14:55.000 But if you watch that Kimura, that was in transition.

00:14:58.000 It was so nasty.

00:15:00.000 It was a huge transition from the bottom to the top.

00:15:03.000 And then he switches and...

00:15:07.000 There's just no way he could have got there in time.

00:15:09.000 I think the pat on the back was like, this is the quickest I can get here.

00:15:12.000 I'm going to bypass trying to stop him and go around.

00:15:15.000 He was just not in position.

00:15:17.000 Look at this.

00:15:17.000 Mounted guillotine.

00:15:18.000 Mounted guillotine.

00:15:19.000 Ray Borg.

00:15:20.000 That's nasty, too.

00:15:21.000 He has his legs locked up.

00:15:22.000 Oh, dude.

00:15:22.000 It looks like it's over, kid.

00:15:24.000 It looks like it's over.

00:15:25.000 This guy's battling it out.

00:15:26.000 Clear the legs, son.

00:15:28.000 Isn't it amazing that that's all you have to do is get out of that fucking mount, get those legs separated.

00:15:34.000 That mounted one, too, when they're doing like a guard from the top, when they cross their legs like that?

00:15:39.000 God damn, that's nasty.

00:15:40.000 Joey Benavidez style.

00:15:41.000 Which one?

00:15:42.000 My 17?

00:15:43.000 No, when Benavidez, right there with the mounted guillotine, when Benavidez tapped Tim, who the fuck was it?

00:15:48.000 Tim Means?

00:15:49.000 Yeah.

00:15:49.000 No, not Tim Means.

00:15:50.000 Tim Elliott.

00:15:52.000 He had to tap with his feet.

00:15:54.000 Both his arms were trapped.

00:15:56.000 He was getting guillotined.

00:15:57.000 Both his arms were trapped.

00:15:58.000 And he's slapping with his feet like a dolphin.

00:16:00.000 He had to tap with his feet.

00:16:01.000 Benavidez got a nasty one.

00:16:03.000 These guys have very good chits, man.

00:16:05.000 So let me tell you about being in Brazil, watching Ronda Rousey walk out into the arena with 16,000 people.

00:16:14.000 Originally, they were chanting over her fucking song.

00:16:17.000 Like, she's going out there with her song, and they're going, Then you're gonna die.

00:16:22.000 Yeah, that's that you're gonna die song that they always sing.

00:16:24.000 Been there.

00:16:25.000 And then people are like, Touching her as she's walking.

00:16:28.000 They have to reach really far, so they're trying to touch her.

00:16:35.000 She's not close enough for them to just know exactly how to reach her.

00:16:39.000 So they're trying to reach like a white guy jumping up trying to touch a basketball rim.

00:16:43.000 You can't really do it delicately.

00:16:45.000 There's no passive way to do it.

00:16:47.000 You gotta do your best to try to touch her.

00:16:49.000 But dude, she walks forward with this fucking stare of death.

00:16:53.000 Like she didn't give a fuck about anybody else.

00:16:56.000 All that stuff was just nonsense.

00:16:57.000 Total tunnel vision.

00:16:59.000 And while it was happening, I was like, whoa, we're seeing some crazy history shit here.

00:17:03.000 Like, there's something about her right now where she's kind of transcended this sport in some crazy way.

00:17:09.000 You're emotional.

00:17:10.000 Dude!

00:17:10.000 I almost cried!

00:17:11.000 I almost fucking cried!

00:17:12.000 I almost cried when I was interviewing her because I felt like, you know, I always say that if you could tell your kids, like, I was there when Muhammad Ali beat Sonny Liston.

00:17:19.000 Yeah, Rumble in the Jungle.

00:17:21.000 That was Ronda in Brazil.

00:17:22.000 I was there when Mike Tyson beat Trevor Burbick and won the title, the youngest heavyweight ever.

00:17:27.000 I was there.

00:17:28.000 You know, if you could say that, like, wow.

00:17:29.000 Like, Dom Herrera always talks about Michael Spinks.

00:17:31.000 He was there for Mike Tyson, Michael Spinks.

00:17:32.000 He goes, Joe, I was in the audience.

00:17:34.000 I saw him in the eyes.

00:17:35.000 It was a historic event.

00:17:37.000 You know the only difference is when you say those names, and I'm not hating on Ronda, but when you say like Evander Holyfield or Tyson, I was there for that.

00:17:43.000 Muhammad Ali, Sonny Liston, I was there for that.

00:17:45.000 I was there for Ronda versus Betch Cohera.

00:17:48.000 Listen, Betch Cohera is the best chick in Brazil at 135. No, she's not.

00:17:55.000 She's ranked number eight.

00:17:57.000 There's Brazilians ranked higher than her?

00:17:59.000 No, no, she's ranked number eight.

00:18:00.000 No, but Eddie said the best chick in Brazil.

00:18:02.000 No, no, no, no.

00:18:02.000 No, Cyborg's the best chick in Brazil.

00:18:04.000 Yeah, but she can't make the weight.

00:18:05.000 But that's a different story.

00:18:06.000 And she just recently got signed by the UFC. This is Ronda's first time in Brazil.

00:18:10.000 You know, it's her first time in Brazil.

00:18:12.000 It's that when Ronda came to Brazil, that's what he's talking about.

00:18:15.000 It could have been fucking, you know, Flavia.

00:18:18.000 It's different.

00:18:19.000 I think it's different.

00:18:20.000 Listen, it doesn't have to be equal.

00:18:22.000 I'm not saying that.

00:18:23.000 What I'm saying is it is, without a doubt, an historic event.

00:18:26.000 She got 1.5 million Instagram followers in a fucking day.

00:18:30.000 How many?

00:18:30.000 1.5 million.

00:18:32.000 That's significant.

00:18:33.000 Dude, this pay-per-view is going to be bigger than UFC 189. It's going to be bigger than the Conor McGregor fight.

00:18:37.000 That's insane.

00:18:37.000 She's by far the biggest star.

00:18:39.000 There's all these memes all over the internet saying, don't be a do-nothing bitch.

00:18:44.000 Because that's what she said.

00:18:45.000 She said, I'm not some do-nothing bitch that sits around waiting for some millionaire to fuck her.

00:18:49.000 That's so gangster.

00:18:51.000 She's the most gangster chick of all time.

00:18:54.000 She's the walking example of feminism or meritocracy.

00:18:58.000 She does it.

00:18:59.000 She doesn't talk like Gloria Steinem.

00:19:01.000 She's not asking to be judged on a curve at all.

00:19:03.000 She walked out, when she knocked her out...

00:19:06.000 She KOs her, and then she goes, don't cry, and then walks away from her and struts around the ring.

00:19:15.000 She's a different demeanor, bro.

00:19:16.000 Did she really shit in her pants?

00:19:18.000 No, no, no.

00:19:18.000 That's fake.

00:19:19.000 Oh, that's fake, okay.

00:19:20.000 She's strutting around the octagon, and the audience has to give it up.

00:19:24.000 They have to cheer for her.

00:19:25.000 Oh, she's destroying these girls.

00:19:27.000 And now you're going to give us Misha take three?

00:19:29.000 But in Brazil, Captain Negative over here, in Brazil...

00:19:33.000 Even in Brazil, they're cheering for her at the weigh-ins.

00:19:36.000 They were booing Betch Coheia in Brazil at the weigh-ins.

00:19:39.000 She's by far the biggest star.

00:19:41.000 She's transcending.

00:19:42.000 It's not like Conor McGregor flying Irish people over.

00:19:44.000 This is actual Brazilians.

00:19:46.000 This is actual Brazilians booing one of their own country women, which is unheard of.

00:19:51.000 It's an insanely proud and nationalistic country.

00:19:53.000 I think she's undeniable.

00:19:55.000 Undeniable.

00:19:56.000 There's a human example here of triumph over all odds, in a way.

00:20:00.000 Just to be a woman, and in such a short period of time, to be the biggest draw.

00:20:04.000 Where I was in a...

00:20:05.000 Where the hell was I? I was doing stand-up in Dallas, and I was in this bar.

00:20:10.000 It was just And the minute she walked out, everybody went crazy.

00:20:15.000 If you told me that a woman could garner that kind of attention as a fighter, I would have told you two years, three years ago, whatever.

00:20:20.000 Well, she's just not like anybody we've ever seen before.

00:20:22.000 When you say a woman fighter, you're judging on the women fighter that you've seen up until her.

00:20:26.000 Even the girls that were really good as boxers.

00:20:29.000 You know, Christy Martin was kind of fun to watch, and Layla Ali was fun to watch.

00:20:33.000 Even Gina Carano.

00:20:33.000 And Gina Carano was fun to watch.

00:20:35.000 This is another level.

00:20:37.000 This is some Tyson shit.

00:20:39.000 Yes.

00:20:39.000 She's the female version of Mike Tyson.

00:20:41.000 These girls are fucking terrified when they get in there with her.

00:20:43.000 She's even more dominant than Tyson.

00:20:44.000 Did you think that she would dispatch Correa that easily?

00:20:47.000 I thought she would submit her.

00:20:49.000 I thought she would ragdoll her and maybe beat her face in with elbows.

00:20:52.000 That's what I was thinking.

00:20:53.000 I think if they fight 100 times, that fight goes like that 100 times.

00:20:56.000 It's no competition, man.

00:20:58.000 She does whatever the fuck she wants to that girl.

00:20:59.000 She does whatever she wants.

00:21:00.000 Stand in.

00:21:01.000 She does whatever she wants.

00:21:02.000 I called UFC 190 Honeydick.

00:21:05.000 Oh my god, look at Ray Borg's head.

00:21:06.000 It's squealing blood.

00:21:08.000 Look at that.

00:21:08.000 It's flying out of him.

00:21:10.000 That is crazy!

00:21:12.000 Dude, that is like a broken faucet.

00:21:14.000 They're stopping it because of the blood.

00:21:15.000 It's on his eye?

00:21:17.000 Yeah, it's on his cheek.

00:21:19.000 I think it's above the eye, bro.

00:21:20.000 Blood is pumping.

00:21:21.000 It looks like there's something on his cheek.

00:21:23.000 It's hard to tell.

00:21:24.000 It's hard to tell.

00:21:24.000 Can you tell?

00:21:25.000 It's like the slit of that eye, huh?

00:21:26.000 Yeah.

00:21:27.000 Oh, it is on the eyelid.

00:21:28.000 Oh, it looks like more...

00:21:29.000 Yeah, it's the eye.

00:21:29.000 It's like at the slit.

00:21:31.000 At the bottom, you're good.

00:21:32.000 They shouldn't have stopped.

00:21:34.000 He's in a really good position.

00:21:35.000 No, that's bullshit.

00:21:36.000 Well, they better put him back in that position.

00:21:37.000 That's one thing Herb always does.

00:21:39.000 Oh, yeah.

00:21:39.000 Okay, that's good.

00:21:40.000 Think about what you're saying about Ronda right now and how this is such a historical time and what Callan's saying.

00:21:47.000 And then even the fact that Brendan is saying, well, she's not really getting any competition.

00:21:55.000 Put all that together and then you look at Cyborg.

00:21:59.000 You know what I mean?

00:22:00.000 Cyborg's nowhere near Ronda's level.

00:22:03.000 Cyborg's in the CFL. Cyborg is nowhere near Ronda's level?

00:22:07.000 Not even close.

00:22:07.000 Wait a minute.

00:22:09.000 Cyborg is nowhere near Ronda's level?

00:22:11.000 As a fighter, yes.

00:22:12.000 What?

00:22:13.000 Because if Ronda's not facing...

00:22:14.000 If we're going to make fun of Ronda's competition...

00:22:18.000 I'm not making fun of Ronda's competition.

00:22:19.000 You are.

00:22:20.000 And I'm saying Ronda's competition is nothing.

00:22:22.000 That's how much better she is than those girls.

00:22:24.000 And it's not Ronda's fault.

00:22:25.000 It's not the UFC's fault.

00:22:26.000 It's the state of the female fights right now.

00:22:28.000 It's just that's what it is.

00:22:29.000 It's so new.

00:22:29.000 And Ronda's pretty fucking badass, dude.

00:22:32.000 You know what I mean?

00:22:32.000 She's the best we have.

00:22:33.000 Ever.

00:22:33.000 We won't see another.

00:22:34.000 But Cyborgs, she's just not in the same realm as Ronda.

00:22:38.000 Well, that's just because she doesn't get any fights.

00:22:41.000 I mean, she's fighting these girls.

00:22:42.000 Oh, you're talking about popularity-wise?

00:22:44.000 Everything across the board.

00:22:47.000 She had a kickboxing bout with this chick.

00:22:52.000 Her name was J-O. I know how you say it.

00:22:55.000 She's a world champ.

00:22:57.000 She fought one of the best female kickboxers on the fucking planet.

00:23:02.000 A chick that can't get a fight.

00:23:03.000 Nobody wants to fight her.

00:23:04.000 Bars is big.

00:23:05.000 She fought her to the distance, too.

00:23:07.000 She went the distance with her, which is not her sport, because she's an MMA fighter.

00:23:11.000 There is a big difference, especially with the big gloves on.

00:23:14.000 It's just not the same.

00:23:15.000 She can't take people down.

00:23:17.000 There's a lot of things you can't do.

00:23:18.000 But that chick, she got in there with one of the best in the fucking world.

00:23:22.000 She's trying to fight people, but there's all the allegations of steroids.

00:23:27.000 Well, she's failed tests.

00:23:28.000 Yes.

00:23:29.000 There's no allegations.

00:23:30.000 She failed one test.

00:23:31.000 Look at her physically.

00:23:33.000 No, you're right.

00:23:33.000 Absolutely.

00:23:34.000 Look, I'm not...

00:23:35.000 I'm a Chris Cyborg fan.

00:23:37.000 Let me just say that right now.

00:23:38.000 As a fight analyst or a fight fan, she's fun to watch, man.

00:23:43.000 I mean, I don't know if it's fair.

00:23:44.000 Isn't her striking and her jiu-jitsu world-class?

00:23:49.000 She's a brown belt level on the ground.

00:23:51.000 She's really good.

00:23:51.000 She's not as good as Ronda on the ground.

00:23:54.000 No, but she's fucking way bigger.

00:23:56.000 She looks like she hits harder than any woman.

00:24:00.000 And that's unforgiving, right?

00:24:01.000 Oh, yeah.

00:24:02.000 But now get her to 135. Let's see her hit like that.

00:24:05.000 Well, that's the thing that Robin Black had a really good point.

00:24:07.000 Robin Black, who's one of the best fight analysts out there, and good dude.

00:24:11.000 I had him on the podcast.

00:24:12.000 Very, very knowledgeable and a huge fan of the sport.

00:24:14.000 He's like, it's bullshit.

00:24:15.000 All she has to do is eat less and run.

00:24:18.000 Everybody does it.

00:24:18.000 You want to lose weight?

00:24:19.000 You can lose weight.

00:24:20.000 Fucking 50 Cent did it for a movie.

00:24:22.000 He lost like 100 pounds.

00:24:23.000 Look at fucking Matthew McConaughey.

00:24:25.000 Exactly.

00:24:25.000 Matthew McConaughey did it.

00:24:26.000 Looked like he had AIDS. People can do it.

00:24:27.000 You can do it.

00:24:28.000 What about Homeboy with fucking Batman?

00:24:31.000 What's his name?

00:24:32.000 Christian Bale.

00:24:33.000 Christian Bale in The Machinist?

00:24:35.000 But can you fight at that weight?

00:24:36.000 Well, you can fight at any way.

00:24:37.000 You can fight even better if you don't ever cut weight.

00:24:40.000 How about that?

00:24:41.000 How about you let her fight at 170?

00:24:42.000 That's what she walks around at.

00:24:43.000 Right.

00:24:43.000 No, it's bullshit.

00:24:44.000 There's a reason why you have to cut weight.

00:24:46.000 You have to cut weight because they're trying to figure out some way where you can both agree uneven terms.

00:24:50.000 I don't think she has a bone structure.

00:24:52.000 You can't be any heavier than 135, 24.5.

00:24:54.000 Five pounds.

00:24:55.000 Any athlete.

00:24:56.000 If Dana called me up right now and was like, hey, Brennan, listen.

00:24:58.000 We need you to get to 185 and you can fight the champ at 185. I'm going to try my fucking best to make that fight.

00:25:04.000 I'm sure it's fucking like, no, no, no.

00:25:06.000 We got to do that 190. No.

00:25:07.000 Whatever they want, I'm going to do.

00:25:09.000 Especially if I'm cyborg.

00:25:10.000 I want to become relevant.

00:25:12.000 I have to make...

00:25:13.000 Okay, but what you're talking about, Cyborg, they asked how much she was walking around, and she goes, about 175. She didn't interview.

00:25:20.000 That's a lot of weight.

00:25:21.000 That is a lot of weight, and it's very unusual.

00:25:23.000 A lot of weight.

00:25:23.000 But here's the other thing.

00:25:24.000 It's not normal either.

00:25:24.000 One of the things about steroids, and this is not saying that she's on it, I'm not making any allegations, but one of the things about the people that compete on them is that they find it very addictive.

00:25:35.000 And it's not just a matter of the fact that it allows you to heal.

00:25:38.000 It's not just a matter of fact that it gives you, you know, this ability to train harder.

00:25:43.000 But it also, there's a confidence thing where you know you're on this shit.

00:25:47.000 Yes.

00:25:47.000 You know?

00:25:47.000 And they all talk about it.

00:25:49.000 They all talk about it.

00:25:49.000 Like, when I was on it and I was fighting, I felt invincible.

00:25:52.000 Especially with a female.

00:25:53.000 They would all talk about it.

00:25:53.000 You put testosterone in a female's body, it's going to change some things.

00:25:56.000 Exactly.

00:25:57.000 Bone structure.

00:25:57.000 And attitude.

00:25:58.000 The way she fights.

00:25:59.000 What?

00:25:59.000 She fights like an angry dude.

00:26:01.000 Yes.

00:26:01.000 She mauls bitches.

00:26:02.000 So you take that away.

00:26:03.000 And again, I'm not saying she's on testosterone.

00:26:05.000 She's failed a testosterone test before.

00:26:07.000 If you look at the two factors, the fact that she's failed the test before and the way that she looks.

00:26:12.000 Her voice.

00:26:13.000 How about her voice?

00:26:14.000 Especially the way she used to look when she was in Strikeforce and she fought Gina.

00:26:17.000 Okay?

00:26:17.000 All that nonsense aside, I think it's worth, when we know what we know about the sport, it's worth considering the possibility.

00:26:23.000 I agree.

00:26:24.000 Right?

00:26:24.000 That's fair.

00:26:24.000 That's fair as fuck.

00:26:25.000 That's about as fair as you can get.

00:26:26.000 Yes.

00:26:26.000 That said, she's just bigger.

00:26:28.000 She's way bigger.

00:26:29.000 And this idea that Ronda has to move up, like, actually she doesn't.

00:26:32.000 Why would Ronda move up?

00:26:33.000 Why does she have to do anything?

00:26:34.000 She's the champ.

00:26:35.000 Because to the common folk, to the common fan, no one knows who Cyborg is.

00:26:40.000 This is not a matter of her not being able to do it.

00:26:42.000 It's a matter of her not taking any of the steps to attempt to do it.

00:26:46.000 Like, if you really want to do it, what you do is you make that wait.

00:26:49.000 Hire Mike Dolce.

00:26:50.000 You hire Mike Dolce, you make that wait, and you put up a fucking video of you making that wait.

00:26:53.000 Here, I'm weighing in.

00:26:55.000 135. See, I can do it.

00:26:57.000 Ronda, let's do this bitch.

00:26:59.000 I want my title.

00:26:59.000 Boom.

00:27:00.000 Biggest fight.

00:27:00.000 Biggest women's fight ever.

00:27:02.000 Biggest fight ever.

00:27:03.000 Ever.

00:27:03.000 Biggest fight ever.

00:27:04.000 Ever.

00:27:05.000 What do you think would happen?

00:27:06.000 I said that shit back at JRE1-whatever when Ronda was on Joe Rogan's show.

00:27:10.000 Before the UFC even had chicks.

00:27:12.000 You know what I thought?

00:27:13.000 What freaked me out is when Cyborg fought Gina Carano and Strikeforce.

00:27:19.000 I worked for the UFC for eight years.

00:27:21.000 You're used to the crowd and what it sounds like.

00:27:23.000 I never heard a crowd like that, ever.

00:27:26.000 In all the hundreds of shows I've been to, that sounded like a Beatles concert.

00:27:30.000 When Gina Carano came out, it sounded like it was a Britney Spears concert.

00:27:34.000 And I thought, wow.

00:27:36.000 Multiply that times the hundreds, and that's Ronda in Brazil.

00:27:38.000 They were screaming like Justin Bieber was on stage.

00:27:41.000 Girls were screaming.

00:27:43.000 It was like Elvis was there in the 60s.

00:27:44.000 I think Ronda beat Cyborg even at 145. Really?

00:27:48.000 You might be right.

00:27:48.000 But I don't think Rhonda has any reason.

00:27:51.000 Reason?

00:27:52.000 That's the biggest fight of all time.

00:27:53.000 That's the biggest fight of all time.

00:27:55.000 For Cyborg.

00:27:55.000 For everybody.

00:27:56.000 For Rhonda it's dangerous.

00:27:57.000 It's a very dangerous fight.

00:27:58.000 Not for Rhonda.

00:27:59.000 It's a dangerous fight.

00:28:00.000 The public doesn't know who Cyborg is, so they don't give a fuck.

00:28:03.000 Listen, if Cyborg fought, if signed right now in the UFC, how long would it take for them to blow that the fuck up and everybody knows who Cyborg is?

00:28:12.000 It'll take a while.

00:28:13.000 Oh, it will take fucking one week.

00:28:15.000 Okay, let me ask you this.

00:28:16.000 Let me ask you this.

00:28:16.000 Come on.

00:28:17.000 Let's look at this rationally.

00:28:18.000 Let's say we know for sure, because we don't know anything for sure, right?

00:28:22.000 But let's say we know for sure that Rhonda is not juicing.

00:28:24.000 She's not doing anything.

00:28:25.000 Guaranteed she's not.

00:28:26.000 Okay.

00:28:26.000 I believe you.

00:28:27.000 But let's say we know for sure, okay?

00:28:29.000 And let's say we also know for sure that Cyborg might be on something.

00:28:34.000 And she might be on something to make $145,000.

00:28:36.000 Then are you okay with it?

00:28:37.000 Are you okay with it if they both fight at 145 and one person is naturally bigger and might be on something?

00:28:42.000 I don't care where they fight 145, 135. This is my question.

00:28:47.000 Do you have a different opinion about this with women than you do with men?

00:28:52.000 Not really.

00:28:52.000 I don't at all.

00:28:53.000 Here's the thing.

00:28:53.000 With Chris Weidman, here's a perfect example.

00:28:55.000 Chris Weidman's dominant champ, just like Ronda.

00:28:58.000 If he was going to fight Vitor, and we knew that Vitor might be on TRT, I still wouldn't have a problem with it.

00:29:03.000 And I don't think Weidman would have a problem with it either.

00:29:05.000 I think Weidman would be like, I'm going to still fuck this team.

00:29:06.000 The reason I wouldn't have a problem is because I think Weidman's already bigger.

00:29:10.000 You're right.

00:29:11.000 Weidman's already got a bigger frame and all that.

00:29:13.000 But that's the point.

00:29:13.000 It's a different fight.

00:29:14.000 It's a completely different fight.

00:29:16.000 You know how dangerous Vitor is?

00:29:18.000 He knocked Bisping's eye into fucking the next level.

00:29:22.000 Bisping will never be the same.

00:29:24.000 Dan Henderson.

00:29:25.000 Look at all these dudes.

00:29:27.000 He was, what, seven in a row, six in a row?

00:29:28.000 Just KO'ing dudes.

00:29:29.000 Take him off testosterone?

00:29:31.000 What the fuck was that?

00:29:32.000 His body doesn't look the same.

00:29:33.000 He doesn't perform the same.

00:29:34.000 He's not even remotely close.

00:29:35.000 It's like going from a Ferrari to a Civic.

00:29:37.000 So that's the question.

00:29:38.000 If she's capable of doing something that's not natural, to stay at 145 or to get up higher than 145 in the 170s, then how do you feel about the fight then?

00:29:51.000 Because then it's because of a different fight.

00:29:52.000 And then what's the UFC do?

00:29:55.000 Let's say they do do that fight and Cyborg knocks Ronda out.

00:29:59.000 Yeah.

00:30:00.000 Knocks her out.

00:30:00.000 Dead.

00:30:01.000 Dead.

00:30:01.000 Yeah.

00:30:02.000 And then what do we do?

00:30:03.000 It's a beautiful thing.

00:30:04.000 It makes everything beautiful.

00:30:05.000 It's not.

00:30:05.000 It is.

00:30:05.000 It doesn't matter if she loses.

00:30:06.000 It makes it better.

00:30:07.000 What if she tastes positive?

00:30:09.000 What if she loses and then Cyborg tests positive?

00:30:11.000 It makes the sport even more interesting.

00:30:13.000 No, it doesn't.

00:30:13.000 Yes, it does.

00:30:14.000 Because then we don't have our star.

00:30:15.000 We don't have anyone crossing over into pop culture.

00:30:18.000 Oh, who cares about that?

00:30:19.000 That's all extra shit.

00:30:20.000 No, it's not.

00:30:21.000 The fans don't need that shit.

00:30:22.000 You don't mind if someone is on the shit and they knock somebody out like that?

00:30:26.000 And then you find out that the reason why she got knocked out like that is because the other person was enhanced?

00:30:30.000 I do.

00:30:30.000 I think it's cheating.

00:30:32.000 This is the thing, this is what my, the sexist in me, the sexist in me, I have more of an issue with it for some reason with women.

00:30:37.000 Well, maybe because it's testosterone.

00:30:39.000 I'm not comfortable with it, right?

00:30:40.000 I'm not comfortable with it at all.

00:30:41.000 What I'm saying, I'm not even comfortable with my opinions on it.

00:30:44.000 Like, I'm like, why do I have a different opinion if it's women and the woman was on something?

00:30:49.000 Ugh.

00:30:50.000 I agree.

00:30:51.000 It's different.

00:30:51.000 When me and Rhonda were hanging out, I would tell her, unless Cyborg agrees to this strict testing, you are not fighting her.

00:31:00.000 It's you!

00:31:01.000 It's you!

00:31:02.000 I haven't talked to her in forever.

00:31:04.000 When I was with her, I still care about her, but the thing is, There's no way you're taking this fight against fucking the Brazilian Drago if she's on shit.

00:31:13.000 Unless she's going to enlist.

00:31:14.000 Especially at 145. There's no way.

00:31:18.000 At 145, she's just a way bigger human being.

00:31:20.000 It's dangerous, man.

00:31:21.000 What you guys said before, just lose the goddamn motherfucking weight already.

00:31:26.000 Shit!

00:31:27.000 Stop with this.

00:31:28.000 It's a fucking journey shit.

00:31:31.000 What the fuck is going on?

00:31:32.000 Just lose the goddamn weight.

00:31:33.000 It's the biggest fight of all time.

00:31:35.000 The fuck you doing, Cyborg?

00:31:36.000 Let's do it.

00:31:37.000 I want to see it.

00:31:37.000 In a way, getting down to 35 would cancel out, in some ways, the idea of testosterone in terms of, I think, it'd be hard to do it.

00:31:45.000 It'd be hard to do it when you've lost literally 45 pounds.

00:31:49.000 She would also have to guarantee that she actually made the weight.

00:31:52.000 Because another sneaky fucked up thing that people do is they just don't make the weight.

00:31:56.000 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. in his last fight.

00:31:59.000 They contracted, the first fight was supposed to be at 168, then they moved to 170, and he didn't even make 170. That guy drives me fucking nuts.

00:32:06.000 170.8, came in, he was out of shape, didn't fight well, fought through just a few punches per round, but he was way bigger than that.

00:32:14.000 Way bigger, and the guy would land 30 shots and he'd land two, and wobble the guy.

00:32:19.000 You can't do that, man.

00:32:20.000 And won the round with just a few body shots.

00:32:23.000 It was literally Like a guy eating punches, getting close, and swinging with clubbing blows.

00:32:28.000 It looked like you and me in the ring.

00:32:30.000 Swear to God.

00:32:31.000 Julio Chavez Jr. was a big dude and was a tiny guy.

00:32:34.000 That's like Ronda and Cyborg.

00:32:35.000 If they didn't agree to 135, you're going to have some shit on your hands, man.

00:32:38.000 That's not going to be good.

00:32:39.000 It's going to happen at 135. It's going to happen.

00:32:42.000 And imagine the fucking audience.

00:32:45.000 Every niece, grandma, aunt, your girlfriends.

00:32:51.000 Everybody's going to watch that shit.

00:32:52.000 The whole fucking world in Africa and Latin America.

00:32:55.000 Eddie, you don't know.

00:32:58.000 The regular person has no fucking idea who Cyborg is.

00:33:01.000 They have no idea.

00:33:02.000 It doesn't matter.

00:33:03.000 It's not a smart move.

00:33:04.000 The smart move is Misha Tate versus Cyborg at 140. I'm not disagreeing with that.

00:33:11.000 Gigantic fight.

00:33:12.000 The world sees it.

00:33:13.000 She's gonna kill Misha Tate though.

00:33:14.000 You're not right.

00:33:15.000 I wasn't saying it happened immediately.

00:33:16.000 I said, let's do that.

00:33:17.000 I'm not disagreeing with that.

00:33:18.000 It would be the toughest fight that Misha Tate has ever had.

00:33:20.000 Oh yeah.

00:33:21.000 And Cyborg.

00:33:21.000 Or the toughest fight, rather, that Cyborg has ever had.

00:33:23.000 Really?

00:33:24.000 Misha Tate would be.

00:33:24.000 100%.

00:33:25.000 Why is that?

00:33:26.000 Misha Tate's gangster!

00:33:27.000 Misha Tate is a gangster.

00:33:29.000 She's tough as fuck.

00:33:30.000 She's the only girl that's taking Ronda Rousey into the third round.

00:33:32.000 And she's destroying the other girl.

00:33:34.000 Cyborg hits, all due respect to Misha Tate, I believe Cyborg hits a whole lot harder than Misha Tate does at 45. I think you're right, but I'll tell you right now, with all due respect, I would favor Misha Tate over Gina Carano.

00:33:48.000 And Cyborg and Gina Carano was a very competitive fight.

00:33:51.000 That's the thing that people don't remember about That was forever a gun.

00:33:54.000 Gina Carano mounted her.

00:33:55.000 You're right, she's better now, I'm sure.

00:33:56.000 But Gina Carano, she was still fucking girls up back then.

00:33:59.000 She was fucking girls up.

00:34:00.000 Yeah, she was tougher.

00:34:01.000 Gina Carano mounted her.

00:34:02.000 I think she'll light up.

00:34:02.000 They scrambled on the ground, and it was some control situations.

00:34:05.000 I think even at 140, I think Misha Tate's going to give Cyborg some fritz.

00:34:09.000 She'll get lit up.

00:34:11.000 And then if they do it at 135, and she fights for it at 135, it doesn't get past the two-minute mark.

00:34:17.000 You know what?

00:34:17.000 She's not going to be able to take Cyborg down.

00:34:19.000 Her wrestling's not that good.

00:34:20.000 Cyborg's hard to take down, and she hits hard.

00:34:23.000 I think Misha will get lit up.

00:34:25.000 I love Misha, but Cyborg would be too much for her.

00:34:28.000 You know what's fascinating about this?

00:34:29.000 Misha won the scrambles against Sarah McMahon.

00:34:31.000 Sarah McMahon's an Olympic medal.

00:34:33.000 She's about to fight right now, by the way.

00:34:34.000 She beat Sarah McMahon up.

00:34:35.000 You know what's fascinating about this?

00:34:37.000 Four guys.

00:34:39.000 Are talking passionately about women fighters.

00:34:42.000 That's what I'm talking about!

00:34:43.000 That's amazing.

00:34:44.000 That's what I'm talking about because what happens with Ronda Sideboard...

00:34:47.000 Who's Ronda Fight up there?

00:34:48.000 Go.

00:34:51.000 Holly Holm.

00:34:52.000 She's not ready yet.

00:34:53.000 You know what?

00:34:53.000 Whatever.

00:34:54.000 Throw her in there.

00:34:55.000 That's the fight, though.

00:34:56.000 Throw her in there.

00:34:56.000 If I want to see a fight, that's the fight I want to see.

00:34:58.000 That's the next one I'd want to see.

00:35:00.000 And you know who's really tough?

00:35:02.000 Man, she just beat...

00:35:04.000 She was on Invicta.

00:35:06.000 She's like an old-school fighter who's really good.

00:35:08.000 She just beat a new...

00:35:09.000 Irene Aldana.

00:35:12.000 If you're Misha, and you came in a different lifetime, and there was no Ronda, Misha's killing shit, right?

00:35:19.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:35:19.000 She's the best.

00:35:20.000 She's as good as she is because Ronda is so goddamn good that the aspiration, the inspiration, the top of the mountain is so high that everybody else, their vibration comes up.

00:35:29.000 They have to step their game up.

00:35:31.000 They have to.

00:35:31.000 She's like the Michael Jordan.

00:35:33.000 Everyone's trying to pursue that.

00:35:34.000 There's something about her, man.

00:35:35.000 She's got this crazy aura of championship, Ronda.

00:35:38.000 Oh, yeah.

00:35:39.000 Dude, I really did almost cry when I was interviewing her.

00:35:42.000 The moment was so powerful.

00:35:44.000 And plus, knowing her story, knowing her story with her dad and the whole thing about this girl...

00:35:50.000 I mean, whether or not that's actually what she was trying to say, what she was saying, she hopes Rhonda doesn't kill herself, but Rhonda's dad did kill himself, so that was like, it's part of her story, and she had all this extra motivation, seeing her there, and having daughters, too, and just, there's so much going on.

00:36:06.000 I get it, man.

00:36:07.000 I'm emotional.

00:36:08.000 I'm emotional.

00:36:09.000 God, she's so powerful.

00:36:11.000 I think what's really important, too, about the steroid debate, and just as we're talking about, whether or not, you know, whenever we get excited about a fight, we always assume, or we like to assume, that in many ways there's an equal playing field.

00:36:26.000 They're kind of starting, even though they may be genetically different and stuff.

00:36:29.000 You want to believe that nobody is actually...

00:36:33.000 Doing underhanded things that clearly give you an advantage before you even get into the ring, right?

00:36:38.000 Yes.

00:36:38.000 And I think that's the heart of real competition.

00:36:43.000 That's what makes it so much fun.

00:36:45.000 You've been around the sport way too long to think like that, Brian.

00:36:48.000 You've been around way too many professional athletes to think that way.

00:36:50.000 I'm just saying that's what we as spectators want that.

00:36:54.000 True.

00:36:54.000 We want a level playing field.

00:36:56.000 So when we think about Chris Weidman and Luke Rockhold, all of us are really excited about that fight because we don't know what's going to happen.

00:37:02.000 Best fight ever.

00:37:02.000 We don't know what's going to happen.

00:37:03.000 And we wouldn't want to think Luke was doing something or that somebody was doing something underhanded to get an advantage before they even stepped in the ring.

00:37:11.000 That's all, I guess.

00:37:13.000 Meanwhile Ronda Rousey's in some crazy commercial.

00:37:16.000 That's nuts man, but the thing is this isn't anything Manufactured that's what's crazy is this is really her.

00:37:23.000 She really is that badass like her technique is spectacular This isn't like look with all due respect like Paige Van Zandt is tough as fuck and she's really cute and she has good scrambles But when you see her you see a young fighter that's learning how to fight as a long way A long ways to go.

00:37:38.000 A long ways to go.

00:37:38.000 When you see Rhonda launching bitches through the air, when she's dropping down on Misha Tate after a highlight reel fucking hip toss.

00:37:47.000 Boom!

00:37:48.000 Drops down on her.

00:37:48.000 Or Sarah McMahon body shot.

00:37:50.000 It's silly.

00:37:50.000 You're just seeing some next level technique as well as this aura of this epic person.

00:37:56.000 On a podcast, have you ever talked about an MMA fighter longer than we've talked about Ronda today?

00:38:01.000 Well, because there's so much controversy, exactly.

00:38:04.000 I don't know, man.

00:38:04.000 I don't know.

00:38:05.000 Right?

00:38:05.000 With guys, there's not too much controversy, right?

00:38:07.000 It's pretty cut black and white.

00:38:09.000 With Ronda, it's not black and white.

00:38:10.000 Well, here's the deal, man.

00:38:10.000 I think the UFC should have more women's weight classes.

00:38:13.000 I think they should have a 145. There's not enough women, bro.

00:38:15.000 I think if they did have a 1-4, you build it and they will come, man.

00:38:18.000 Gaby Garcia.

00:38:19.000 Build it and they will come.

00:38:20.000 Build about 225 at a heavyweight.

00:38:21.000 Listen, you just don't, that's true, that too.

00:38:23.000 But I don't think you should have, like, you don't have to have that many fights.

00:38:27.000 Like, if you have a woman like Cyborg, and she's at Invicta, and she has these fights, and they're every now and again, they're not that often, and when she's fighting, she's fighting girls that are a way lower level than her, why not have those fights in the UFC? Why not have everybody aspire?

00:38:40.000 Because that's exactly what you had in the strawweight division.

00:38:42.000 Until Jon Jacek stepped up and became this monster at 115, just smashing everybody.

00:38:47.000 Do an ultimate fighter at 145 for females.

00:38:50.000 You can get every female at 145 fucking doing it.

00:38:53.000 That's exactly it.

00:38:54.000 Instead of giving us the same old dudes and all that, do a 145 just all house.

00:38:58.000 16 145s.

00:38:59.000 The answer might be that there are just too many fighters to begin with in UFC. No, there's so many.

00:39:04.000 They should find out what Gabby Garcia can cut down to and then focus a whole division on her.

00:39:11.000 She's not that big!

00:39:12.000 She's so shredded.

00:39:16.000 She's 200 plus pounds.

00:39:17.000 Is she over 200 pounds?

00:39:18.000 Yes.

00:39:29.000 I was in the elevator with her in China for Abu Dhabi and I looked up like holy shit I thought I was standing next to Brock Lesnar.

00:39:38.000 I would ask her to carry me in a photo.

00:39:40.000 I'm going to ask her to carry me like a baby.

00:39:43.000 Me too.

00:39:43.000 You know what?

00:39:44.000 The only opponents she's going to fight are like...

00:39:45.000 She can carry both of us.

00:39:46.000 You know what?

00:39:47.000 There she is right there.

00:39:48.000 She's shredded now.

00:39:49.000 That's 200 pounds?

00:39:50.000 She lost a lot of weight.

00:39:51.000 She lost so much weight.

00:39:53.000 What if she just fights a bunch of...

00:39:54.000 Because you know America got millions and millions and millions of fat bitches.

00:39:58.000 Why don't they just throw...

00:39:59.000 Like a 10. Take that shit to China, bro.

00:40:05.000 We got a whole shitload of them.

00:40:07.000 Can you imagine?

00:40:09.000 Just a bunch of fat bitches.

00:40:11.000 Gabby's just shredded, just fucking up.

00:40:13.000 She's 105 and 0. But you don't want to run any drug tests on her either.

00:40:19.000 You bring in fat bitches to UFC. Maybe that surgery that she had might have weakened her chin too.

00:40:24.000 Like Bigfoot?

00:40:25.000 She used to have, yeah.

00:40:26.000 She had jaw, it looks like at least.

00:40:28.000 Yeah, it does.

00:40:28.000 That's the rumor.

00:40:29.000 What does it say?

00:40:30.000 I'm not lying, nor is Tito.

00:40:33.000 UFC called my manager last time to see if I would fight Ron at 135, December 5th.

00:40:37.000 Hey, Tito!

00:40:38.000 Hey, Cyborg!

00:40:39.000 How about you take a lesson in Business 101?

00:40:41.000 And if the UFC asks you that, you don't fucking blurt it out and tell the world until it's done.

00:40:46.000 Because now Dana came out and was like, no, I never said that.

00:40:48.000 Did he?

00:40:48.000 Yes.

00:40:49.000 But still, it brings it up.

00:40:51.000 Let's bring it up.

00:40:51.000 So either way, Dana wants to make Tito fucking her.

00:40:54.000 She's not supposed to do that.

00:40:55.000 You're not supposed to do that.

00:40:56.000 Rule number one, as soon as the UFC says, hey, we're thinking about you fighting whoever, please don't say anything.

00:41:01.000 Brandon, right now, let's be honest.

00:41:03.000 Right now, can a girl be that buff?

00:41:06.000 Sarah McMahon?

00:41:07.000 Yes.

00:41:07.000 Because she's been wrestling since she was a kid.

00:41:10.000 And Rhonda's been doing judo since she was a kid.

00:41:12.000 When I interview her, when I put my hand on Sarah McMahon, it's like Gleason Tebow.

00:41:16.000 She's so yoked.

00:41:18.000 I don't know.

00:41:18.000 I'm not an endocrinologist.

00:41:20.000 But that's what most girls look like to me.

00:41:23.000 That, to me, if I saw them, heard of that.

00:41:25.000 Jesus Christ.

00:41:27.000 Okay, let's watch this shit.

00:41:27.000 It is weird that you have women ring girls when women are fighting.

00:41:31.000 I think Shaw, Big Brown, you need to strip down.

00:41:33.000 Dude, I'll do it, man.

00:41:34.000 Wax up.

00:41:35.000 I won't wear Reebok, but I'll fucking do it.

00:41:37.000 You won't wear Reebok?

00:41:38.000 I'll wear Reebok, Speedo.

00:41:39.000 Will you bullshit me about Reebok saying that I have to wear their shit?

00:41:43.000 No, in the interview it said, we rushed this out to get the fighters done, and then they said, you know, next, we didn't even think about Joe Rogan or the ring card girls.

00:41:51.000 That's another thing, just like you were saying about Cyborg not talking about that, they shouldn't talk about that.

00:41:56.000 You know, don't, like, the whole thing's silly.

00:41:58.000 The whole thing's super sloppy, because people, they're like, we know we're taking a lot of criticism on the outfit, stuff like that, but...

00:42:03.000 Well, how about they spell people's names wrong?

00:42:05.000 Damn, she's stuffing Sarah McMahon!

00:42:06.000 She's stuffing her!

00:42:07.000 Look at her!

00:42:08.000 Who is this chick?

00:42:09.000 She's good.

00:42:10.000 Damn, she Brazilian?

00:42:11.000 Yeah.

00:42:12.000 She's badass.

00:42:13.000 She just slipped.

00:42:14.000 She twisted her ankle.

00:42:16.000 Yeah, but basically what the Reebok guy said is, you know, we rushed to get this done, so we've made some mistakes, but we're learning.

00:42:21.000 Why are you trying to scare Joe?

00:42:23.000 It doesn't matter, dude.

00:42:24.000 I'm not at all.

00:42:24.000 You can't really scare Joe.

00:42:26.000 Listen, man.

00:42:27.000 He's different, because, you know, Reebok can say, hey, Joe, jump, and he's not going to do it.

00:42:30.000 I would just not do the weigh-ins.

00:42:31.000 It wouldn't be that hard.

00:42:33.000 You know, I would go and watch.

00:42:34.000 I watched the Ronda weigh-ins.

00:42:35.000 See ya, Joe.

00:42:36.000 Yeah, I watched the Ronda weigh-ins from the audience because they had a Brazilian guy that was introducing them.

00:42:41.000 How did he do it?

00:42:42.000 Not so good.

00:42:43.000 He needs work on his enthusiasm.

00:42:45.000 He's no Joe Rogan.

00:42:46.000 He was fine.

00:42:47.000 I don't know.

00:42:47.000 I don't understand the language.

00:42:49.000 Wow.

00:42:50.000 She's trying to get her back.

00:42:51.000 Take it back.

00:42:52.000 Lose the position.

00:42:55.000 What's moving on the bottom?

00:42:56.000 What's her name?

00:42:57.000 Amanda Nunez.

00:42:58.000 Tough girl.

00:42:59.000 Very tough.

00:43:00.000 She's tough, but when you watch them and then you watch Ronda, it's like, bro.

00:43:04.000 It's like LeBron versus a fucking pickup game in the park.

00:43:07.000 No, it's like LeBron versus me.

00:43:09.000 Straight up.

00:43:11.000 LeBron was in that movie.

00:43:12.000 These guys know how to play.

00:43:13.000 These girls look good.

00:43:14.000 They look strong and fast.

00:43:17.000 That's so funny.

00:43:18.000 You know LeBron had a big part in that Amy Schumer movie?

00:43:21.000 Trainwreck.

00:43:22.000 Have you seen it?

00:43:22.000 Yeah, I love it.

00:43:23.000 The first 45 minutes, I was screaming.

00:43:26.000 It was amazing.

00:43:27.000 I heard it's one of the funniest movies ever.

00:43:28.000 It's great.

00:43:28.000 The first 45 minutes, I couldn't stop going, ah!

00:43:32.000 But then, you know, when you get really raunchy in the movie...

00:43:36.000 Oh!

00:43:37.000 Oh!

00:43:37.000 Did she get her in the eye?

00:43:39.000 She caught her with a bomb, dude.

00:43:40.000 She caught her with a bomb.

00:43:42.000 She's a pretty big underdog, too.

00:43:45.000 Is she?

00:43:45.000 Nunez is tough, dude.

00:43:47.000 Yes, she is.

00:43:48.000 So, Sarah's an underdog.

00:43:49.000 Sarah's not good on the bottom.

00:43:50.000 No, Sarah was the favorite, I thought.

00:43:52.000 Well, she probably is.

00:43:53.000 Yeah.

00:43:53.000 Because she's an Olympic medalist, but she's not very good on the bottom.

00:43:55.000 And I noticed that in the Misha fight.

00:43:57.000 That's a good back take.

00:43:58.000 That's a long time.

00:43:58.000 That's a professional back take.

00:43:59.000 Oh, she's getting fucked up.

00:44:01.000 Bro, name a wrestler who's really good on the bottom.

00:44:03.000 It's tough.

00:44:04.000 That's the problem, because they're so dominant.

00:44:06.000 They're so used to being on top.

00:44:07.000 They spend all their time dominating on top.

00:44:09.000 Sarah's moving.

00:44:10.000 She's about to get choked out, son.

00:44:12.000 Oh my goodness.

00:44:13.000 It's close.

00:44:14.000 I bet you she taps to it.

00:44:16.000 She's going to tap.

00:44:17.000 She's going to tap.

00:44:18.000 She's going to tap.

00:44:19.000 It's over.

00:44:20.000 Oh my goodness.

00:44:21.000 Oh my goodness.

00:44:23.000 That's a bad bitch right there.

00:44:24.000 Amanda Nunes.

00:44:25.000 She beat the shit up.

00:44:26.000 Damn.

00:44:27.000 She is badass.

00:44:28.000 Holy shit.

00:44:28.000 She's really badass.

00:44:29.000 Shit.

00:44:29.000 Dude, look at that.

00:44:30.000 She battered her.

00:44:31.000 Wow, she just said that she's the girl to beat Ronda.

00:44:34.000 Wow.

00:44:34.000 I got a whole new respect for this girl right here.

00:44:37.000 Yeah, but she can't say she's the girl to beat Ronda because she just got ground out by Misha Tate.

00:44:41.000 Oh, she's American Top Team.

00:44:43.000 Powerful, Amanda.

00:44:44.000 Good for her.

00:44:45.000 She's badass.

00:44:46.000 That was her professional groundwork right there.

00:44:47.000 I love that she did this.

00:44:48.000 Hopped over the fence.

00:44:49.000 Fuck it.

00:44:50.000 Mike Brown.

00:44:50.000 Good for her.

00:44:51.000 She's wicked.

00:44:52.000 She's wicked, man.

00:44:53.000 That's 135, huh?

00:44:54.000 Damn.

00:44:55.000 She looked great.

00:44:56.000 Got a new star right there, 135. But she was striking against a wrestler, so she was striking against a wrestler.

00:45:03.000 You fucked up, bitch.

00:45:03.000 You fucked up.

00:45:04.000 But I'll tell you what, Sarah McMahon hits hard.

00:45:06.000 That's a good fight for Ronda right there.

00:45:07.000 You know what I mean?

00:45:08.000 I'm not saying she's going to beat Ronda.

00:45:11.000 I'm saying I would want to watch that shit.

00:45:13.000 Come on.

00:45:13.000 I would watch it.

00:45:14.000 I want to watch see her get fucked up.

00:45:15.000 Watch this, watch this, watch this.

00:45:17.000 Oh, man.

00:45:18.000 You're the biggest Ronda fan ever.

00:45:19.000 Boom!

00:45:20.000 Oh!

00:45:21.000 Damn.

00:45:21.000 Look at this.

00:45:22.000 Goddamn.

00:45:23.000 Sarah McMahon broke Misha's orbital.

00:45:25.000 Yeah, her eye was fucked up from that.

00:45:27.000 She hits hard, man.

00:45:29.000 Amanda battered her, dude.

00:45:30.000 Dude, you know what I don't want to see happen?

00:45:32.000 Paige Van Zandt's fight Joanna.

00:45:34.000 No, that's horrible.

00:45:35.000 Because Paige is so damn hot, and Joanna is just totally ruthless.

00:45:40.000 I would love to see that.

00:45:41.000 Eddie!

00:45:42.000 I would love to see it.

00:45:43.000 Hey, you know what?

00:45:44.000 Paige Van Zandt is a fucking hustler.

00:45:46.000 She might be able to pull it off.

00:45:49.000 But, you know what, I put all my money on Joanna, I'll never bet against her, but the bottom line is, if that fight was coming on right now, if you just, Paige Van Zandt, Joanna, I can't say her last name, you'd freak the fuck out!

00:46:00.000 It's not a competitive fight, it's not a smart fight.

00:46:02.000 But you wouldn't really care for the fight?

00:46:05.000 No, because I don't see Paige's face get destroyed.

00:46:09.000 Have you ever seen another female fighter destroy a girl?

00:46:11.000 Yes, I've never seen another female destroy a girl's face like Joanna did to Pena.

00:46:17.000 That's the beautiful part of the game.

00:46:19.000 That's why we love the game.

00:46:20.000 Juliana Pena, the 135, was also badass.

00:46:23.000 She hasn't fought in a while.

00:46:24.000 She's a fighter.

00:46:25.000 Paige Van Zandt trying to beat up everybody.

00:46:27.000 Who did she beat?

00:46:30.000 Felice Herrig.

00:46:31.000 Yeah, she beat the shit out of her.

00:46:34.000 Were you sad?

00:46:35.000 No.

00:46:36.000 That was a competitive fight.

00:46:37.000 It was different.

00:46:38.000 Are you going to think Felice is that pretty?

00:46:39.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:46:40.000 No, I didn't say that.

00:46:41.000 I think Johanna's a monster and she's going to throw elbows at Paige's dime piece face.

00:46:47.000 I don't want to see that good rest.

00:46:49.000 I agree with Brennan 100% on that.

00:46:51.000 I just think you shouldn't fight someone if you're not ready.

00:46:53.000 And I think she's really learning MMA when Johanna's a six-time world Muay Thai champion.

00:46:57.000 Yeah, she's just not have the experience yet.

00:46:59.000 You're right, Joe.

00:47:01.000 Take down defense is fucking stellar.

00:47:02.000 Give Paige like four fights and then...

00:47:04.000 And then give her to Joanna.

00:47:05.000 Give her four years.

00:47:07.000 Anthony Hardonk, who is Ben Saunders' striking coach now, I hung out with him at the Chicago show.

00:47:13.000 He mentioned that Joanna was going and training with the Dutch guys at his gym for years, forever.

00:47:19.000 They knew that she was going to be a stud.

00:47:21.000 Yes.

00:47:21.000 Because she's this little girl from Poland training with all these giant monsters.

00:47:26.000 He said there was nobody her size.

00:47:28.000 She was in there sparring with big dudes.

00:47:30.000 I'm a fan.

00:47:31.000 She's just crazy.

00:47:32.000 And they knew, man, if she keeps it up, they knew she would be a star.

00:47:34.000 She won me over in that Peña fight.

00:47:36.000 I was like, holy balls.

00:47:38.000 I've never seen a female like this.

00:47:39.000 It's Peña.

00:47:40.000 Yeah, she smashed her.

00:47:41.000 Pena, that's right, I'm saying Pena, my bad.

00:47:43.000 She's the best striker, period, in MMA. It's arguable.

00:47:48.000 I said that today, and I did some UFC countdown shit today.

00:47:50.000 I'm like, she might be the best technical striker in all of MMA. And the combo with her takedown defense?

00:47:56.000 You take her striking and her takedown defense?

00:47:59.000 Goddamn.

00:48:00.000 She's terrifying.

00:48:01.000 She's going to be very hard to beat.

00:48:02.000 She might not ever lose.

00:48:04.000 You know what's a good story?

00:48:05.000 It's Juliana Pena vs.

00:48:08.000 Ronda Rousey.

00:48:08.000 That's a good story.

00:48:10.000 Yes, eventually.

00:48:11.000 Why is that a good story?

00:48:12.000 Because she was on Ultimate Fighter with her.

00:48:15.000 She's Misha Tate's training partner.

00:48:17.000 She doesn't like Ronda.

00:48:18.000 And you know what?

00:48:19.000 She is mentally as strong as you've got to be to go against someone, Ronda.

00:48:24.000 She's gangsta.

00:48:25.000 I'm telling you right now, I'm very impressed with her.

00:48:28.000 She's no joke.

00:48:29.000 No, she's no joke.

00:48:30.000 Are you kidding?

00:48:31.000 She's no joke.

00:48:32.000 Sarah McMahon's back to the drawing board now.

00:48:33.000 Dangerous.

00:48:34.000 Good lord, is she ever.

00:48:35.000 That's tough.

00:48:36.000 She has a rough story, too, man.

00:48:37.000 Ultimately, every girl's got to be that good.

00:48:38.000 Stop talking over each other so much here, boys.

00:48:40.000 She has a rough story, Sarah?

00:48:41.000 She has a rough story.

00:48:42.000 I think her brother died or something like that in high school.

00:48:45.000 That's why she started wrestling or some shit.

00:48:47.000 That sucks.

00:48:47.000 Nunez cracked, too, man.

00:48:49.000 Everybody want to thank her.

00:48:50.000 Prepare very hard for this fight.

00:48:52.000 Everybody.

00:48:53.000 I'd live for fire.

00:48:54.000 I'd die for fire.

00:48:54.000 They're all getting better, man.

00:48:56.000 Everybody's gonna pay attention to me now in the UFC. They know why I love you.

00:49:00.000 Well, how long has Women's MMA been around, Joe?

00:49:03.000 Not very long.

00:49:04.000 2001. 2001. What would you be saying?

00:49:07.000 Translate.

00:49:07.000 I just want to thank Brian Kellen for his acting and his comedy.

00:49:12.000 For me, it's my big inspiration.

00:49:14.000 It's a pleasure for me to watch him so much, so I wish he was here.

00:49:17.000 And to kiss him just one time, his lips.

00:49:19.000 I know he's married.

00:49:22.000 You know, he's skinny, but he's a beautiful ass.

00:49:27.000 How would Joey translate what she's saying?

00:49:30.000 Listen, Ron, I'm coming for you, bitch.

00:49:32.000 You better hide.

00:49:34.000 Lock your fucking cats up.

00:49:36.000 We're making everybody up in here.

00:49:39.000 Hide your mom.

00:49:41.000 Hide your mother.

00:49:42.000 Hide your fucking acai.

00:49:46.000 Put your fucking beans and rice and Fogo the Childs in half-mask.

00:49:50.000 Run away, cocksucker.

00:49:53.000 That's what he said when Eddie beat Hoyle Gracie, he called us up and he goes, Fogo the Childs got their flag at half-mask today.

00:50:05.000 That's one of the funniest things anybody's ever said ever.

00:50:08.000 That's hilarious.

00:50:09.000 He called while I did the podcast the day after, right?

00:50:13.000 Wasn't it the next day?

00:50:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:15.000 That's one of those things I wish I thought of.

00:50:16.000 He's just so brilliant.

00:50:18.000 He called us up.

00:50:20.000 He's just like the funniest fucking guy ever.

00:50:22.000 He was on the podcast when we were talking about suicide.

00:50:24.000 It was fucked up.

00:50:25.000 We were talking about knowing people that died, and I talked about this girl that I used to date that died, and I said, Joey, do you know anybody that ever, did you ever date a girl and she wound up killing herself?

00:50:35.000 He goes, no, they should've.

00:50:38.000 He goes, I had chlamydia for seven years.

00:50:42.000 He gets that fucking infested dick in your mouth as you shoot yourself right in the head.

00:50:47.000 We are crying!

00:50:48.000 This is the funniest thing anyone's ever said on the podcast.

00:50:51.000 Ever.

00:50:52.000 I'm literally, I can't breathe.

00:50:55.000 Tears are rolling down my face.

00:50:57.000 This is the pause.

00:50:58.000 He goes, no.

00:51:03.000 You know you talk about Rhonda being some phenomenon MMA What about Joey fucking Diaz being a phenomenon, man?

00:51:11.000 His followers are so goddamn He's got some followers that would die for him and his periscopes He periscopes every morning and he smokes a bowl and periscope and he's got like 2,000 people watching him smoke weed every morning He's the best comedian ever I've seen them all.

00:51:27.000 Ever.

00:51:27.000 I've seen them all.

00:51:28.000 I've seen everybody.

00:51:29.000 I've seen Live.

00:51:30.000 I saw Kinnison.

00:51:31.000 I saw Hicks in his prime.

00:51:34.000 I've worked with Richard Pryor who's out of his prime.

00:51:36.000 I saw Bill Cosby.

00:51:38.000 I saw Rodney Dangerfield in his prime.

00:51:40.000 I saw all these guys in his prime.

00:51:41.000 I think Joey's better than all of them.

00:51:43.000 I think he's the funniest guy that's ever lived.

00:51:45.000 He's the funniest.

00:51:45.000 He's crazy funny.

00:51:46.000 I don't want to give up the bit because this new Bill Cosby bit, I was screaming and slapping the table.

00:51:52.000 I was sliding under the table and acting.

00:51:56.000 Goddamn, he's funny.

00:51:57.000 He's the funniest guy ever.

00:51:58.000 Tell us off air.

00:51:59.000 Off air, I'll tell you.

00:52:00.000 He's so funny.

00:52:01.000 I don't want to give it up, but he's...

00:52:02.000 I don't know if he's at the store tonight.

00:52:03.000 I don't know where he's at tonight, but goddamn, he's good.

00:52:06.000 You know, Brian, you know what?

00:52:07.000 I think he's right after me tonight.

00:52:09.000 Hold on a second.

00:52:10.000 I think he's at the store.

00:52:11.000 Tonight?

00:52:11.000 Yup.

00:52:12.000 I'm bringing him up tonight at 1130. Oh.

00:52:16.000 It's Bobby Lee, Duncan Trussell, me, and Diaz.

00:52:23.000 That's an hour of power right there.

00:52:25.000 Joey's the best, man.

00:52:26.000 I love him.

00:52:27.000 He's a good dude.

00:52:28.000 How can you not love him?

00:52:30.000 Warm, sweet guy.

00:52:31.000 He'll call me.

00:52:31.000 I mean, me and Joey are cool.

00:52:33.000 We're cool.

00:52:34.000 But he'll call me like, how you doing, man?

00:52:36.000 I love you.

00:52:37.000 You doing all right?

00:52:38.000 Love you, brother.

00:52:38.000 Yeah, I'm good, man.

00:52:39.000 He said to me, he goes, you know, Joey Diaz is just a really good guy.

00:52:42.000 What do you mean?

00:52:42.000 He goes, just call me up and ask me how you're doing.

00:52:44.000 I told him he loved me.

00:52:45.000 He wanted to make sure I was all right.

00:52:46.000 He's beautiful.

00:52:47.000 He's an old school gangster, man.

00:52:49.000 He's beautiful.

00:52:49.000 He don't want to text.

00:52:50.000 He just wants to talk to you.

00:52:51.000 He goes, I gotta hear your voice.

00:52:53.000 Yeah, I know.

00:52:53.000 Yeah, he goes, I go, how come you don't like text messages and voicemails?

00:52:56.000 He goes, I'm insecure.

00:52:57.000 And my fingers are too fat.

00:52:59.000 He goes, if I fucking talk to you, I know.

00:53:00.000 Are we cool?

00:53:01.000 Everything good?

00:53:02.000 I love you.

00:53:02.000 All right, I love you.

00:53:03.000 He goes, we're losing that shit.

00:53:05.000 He's right.

00:53:06.000 He's 100% right.

00:53:06.000 How many times has someone texted you something?

00:53:08.000 You're like, what is that?

00:53:09.000 He's the only guy I talk to on the phone.

00:53:11.000 Joey Dears.

00:53:12.000 I get it.

00:53:12.000 I don't talk to anybody.

00:53:13.000 I talk to Joe occasionally.

00:53:16.000 Occasionally.

00:53:16.000 But generally, it's all texting.

00:53:18.000 You're right.

00:53:18.000 I talk to you occasionally, I talk to Brian on a fairly regular basis, and I talk to you fairly regularly, and Joey.

00:53:25.000 And that's it.

00:53:26.000 And Duncan.

00:53:27.000 And Ari.

00:53:27.000 And Ari occasionally.

00:53:28.000 I talk to Joey every day, sometimes two or three times a day.

00:53:31.000 But Ari mumbles so bad, I can't talk to him on the phone.

00:53:33.000 What's wrong with that?

00:53:34.000 I have to be able to read his voice.

00:53:35.000 Ari Shapiro?

00:53:35.000 Because he just talks like this.

00:53:36.000 I'm going to rumble.

00:53:37.000 Yeah, this guy is fucking New York City, whatever.

00:53:41.000 Is he still in New York?

00:53:43.000 Yeah, man.

00:53:43.000 Dude, Ari is balling completely out of control right now.

00:53:47.000 His podcast is killing it.

00:53:49.000 It's always like top 15, top 20 on iTunes in the comedy section.

00:53:52.000 Selling out everywhere.

00:53:54.000 Goes on tour internationally for like a month.

00:53:57.000 He's doing a month like in Australia, doing a month in Scotland.

00:54:01.000 Good for him, man.

00:54:01.000 Just does whatever he wants.

00:54:02.000 Yeah.

00:54:03.000 Has an apartment in New York City that he's got somebody else that leases it while he's not there.

00:54:07.000 He has like a laptop.

00:54:08.000 He has my old couch.

00:54:09.000 Oh, he sold it.

00:54:10.000 He sold my old couch.

00:54:10.000 He's not materialistic at all.

00:54:12.000 At all.

00:54:12.000 He's the most unmaterialistic guy in the world.

00:54:14.000 But he's got money for years now.

00:54:17.000 Yeah.

00:54:17.000 He's just been saving it.

00:54:18.000 He's squirled away all his money because he doesn't spend it.

00:54:20.000 He's so frugal.

00:54:21.000 I was trying to get him to buy a nice car.

00:54:24.000 I was like, dude, treat yourself to like a nice BMW 3 Series.

00:54:28.000 Hey, I go, come and drive my car.

00:54:29.000 I'll let you borrow my car for a few days.

00:54:31.000 The opposite of Frugal over there.

00:54:33.000 Just give me the best shit.

00:54:34.000 I'm more like Joe.

00:54:36.000 Joe's always been that way.

00:54:37.000 Yeah.

00:54:37.000 I think it works.

00:54:38.000 I don't like the...

00:54:39.000 You know what?

00:54:40.000 I agree with you, man.

00:54:41.000 I'm the exact same way.

00:54:42.000 Me and Joe are a lot.

00:54:43.000 We have cars that have trash everywhere.

00:54:46.000 Our office is a fucking disaster.

00:54:48.000 And I don't like to think about money.

00:54:51.000 I go, like, today I went to Cheesecake Factory, me and my wife and my son.

00:54:54.000 $40 check.

00:54:55.000 I tipped him $15.

00:54:57.000 Yeah, man.

00:54:58.000 Or $10, sorry.

00:54:59.000 $10.

00:54:59.000 That's not bad, right?

00:55:01.000 I wouldn't brag about it.

00:55:03.000 I would leave $100.

00:55:04.000 Yeah, I'd leave a stone cold 50 if I was going to say it on this podcast.

00:55:08.000 Joe, we were in Seattle and Joe...

00:55:11.000 That's not bad.

00:55:12.000 Check this out.

00:55:12.000 We're at the airport in Seattle, me and Joe, and we get coffee.

00:55:15.000 I just get a coffee.

00:55:16.000 And Joe goes, he gives the guy money, and then I see him put something in the jar.

00:55:21.000 And he goes, get out of here.

00:55:22.000 And I go, what are you doing?

00:55:24.000 And I look, and it's a $100 bill on the tip jar.

00:55:27.000 And I go, what the fuck?

00:55:28.000 He goes, yeah, I call that a love bomb.

00:55:29.000 Did I get He was so aggressive.

00:55:33.000 I put $100 in jail.

00:55:34.000 I get the fuck out of there before they even know what the fuck happened.

00:55:37.000 Like, aggressive.

00:55:38.000 I was like, alright, bro.

00:55:39.000 Take it easy, man.

00:55:41.000 I mean, did you date the guy?

00:55:43.000 No, you don't want credit for it.

00:55:45.000 You don't want to see, like, hey, man, did you just give me $100?

00:55:48.000 You don't even want to get credit for it.

00:55:49.000 Just get out of there.

00:55:50.000 Just get out of there and know that when you're over by gate 22, this guy's going to have a good feeling when he looks into his tip jar.

00:55:56.000 I love you for that.

00:55:57.000 You don't feel it, but they feel it.

00:55:59.000 If you can make someone feel happy like that, but it doesn't bother you at all, if you do know whether or not you have an extra 20 or an extra 50 or 100, I don't know.

00:56:06.000 It's not real.

00:56:07.000 Me and Cal were talking about this the other day.

00:56:09.000 If someone needs money, I just give it to them.

00:56:11.000 I don't give a fuck, man.

00:56:12.000 I stopped loaning people money a long time ago, but I've given people.

00:56:15.000 I give it to you.

00:56:16.000 I don't expect to get anything back.

00:56:17.000 Because if I expect to get it back, then we're going to have problems.

00:56:19.000 And then there becomes this weird kind of dynamic between us.

00:56:22.000 So if I just give it to people, and then whatever, man.

00:56:26.000 I've had a few friends like that.

00:56:27.000 See what happens with red wine?

00:56:28.000 You just keep drinking it.

00:56:29.000 I mean, I'm doing good.

00:56:30.000 I'm not Joe Rogan Scrooge McDuck, Rich.

00:56:33.000 Yeah, but luckily, dude, you guys are on your way.

00:56:35.000 That podcast is goddamn gigantic.

00:56:36.000 I see those shirts all the time now.

00:56:39.000 I see the sex, drugs, and podcasting shirt the most for some reason.

00:56:42.000 I see that bitch everywhere.

00:56:43.000 Look at that sexy motherfucker.

00:56:44.000 There he is.

00:56:45.000 That's me.

00:56:46.000 There's a lot of it.

00:56:47.000 This is a good goddamn fight right here.

00:56:48.000 Great fight.

00:56:49.000 Who else?

00:56:49.000 Is Arlovsky and Frank Mir on this one, too?

00:56:53.000 Dodson and Mighty Mouse?

00:56:54.000 Yes, Arlovsky and Frank Mir are on that card.

00:56:56.000 Because it sucks, because these are two of the most talented guys in the UFC. Mighty Mouse might be the most talented in the world.

00:57:02.000 By far in the UFC, but these two can't carry a pay-per-view.

00:57:05.000 They just can't.

00:57:06.000 You know what it is, man?

00:57:07.000 I really think that it's going to take some time, but I think that Mighty Mouse is such a good guy.

00:57:12.000 He's so well-spoken, and Dotson is the same thing.

00:57:15.000 Dotson is just spectacularly fucking talented.

00:57:18.000 It's just going to take a while before people realize it, but I talk about it as enthusiastically as I physically can.

00:57:24.000 I know, man.

00:57:25.000 I'm very high on this fight.

00:57:26.000 I can't wait for this fight.

00:57:27.000 I agree.

00:57:28.000 We didn't need some Russian destroyer to come in to make it interesting, you know what I mean?

00:57:31.000 And he got fucked up.

00:57:32.000 He got popped for PEDs.

00:57:34.000 He tested hot for EPO. He was on EPO. Yes.

00:57:37.000 And Mighty Mouse still ran a train on him.

00:57:39.000 How about some Chinese guy comes in with some serious kung fu.

00:57:42.000 You need a rival.

00:57:43.000 You need a rival.

00:57:44.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:57:45.000 We need something.

00:57:46.000 We can't have two brothers going at it at the flyweight.

00:57:50.000 It's tough, man.

00:57:51.000 It's a tough sell.

00:57:52.000 A Brazilian.

00:57:52.000 If we see a Brazilian, that would be interesting.

00:57:55.000 I'm surprised there's not more small Brazilians killing the game.

00:57:57.000 A little tiny Brazilian who's killing everybody who's like...

00:57:59.000 That'd be dope.

00:58:00.000 You said something very controversial recently that the MMA media picked up on.

00:58:04.000 Surprise!

00:58:05.000 You said that Brazilians, they have a four-part diet.

00:58:09.000 You like jujitsu, wrestling, steroids.

00:58:13.000 What was the other one?

00:58:14.000 You got heat for that.

00:58:16.000 I get death threats.

00:58:18.000 There's one guy, he's like, fuck you, motherfucker, you fucking fuck, motherfucker, he used fuck 50 times.

00:58:23.000 I get death threats now.

00:58:24.000 I got a legit point, man.

00:58:26.000 Well, you gotta, look, you know, I've heard mad accusations behind the scenes, like mad accusations, and I can't talk about it because it's not responsible, but it's that old thing from the fucking CNC Music Factory song, things that make you go, hmm, yes.

00:58:42.000 100%.

00:58:43.000 No, I just don't throw these bombs out without having information behind it.

00:58:47.000 But again, there's certain stuff I can't talk about.

00:58:50.000 So I throw out these bombs and I get the people just talking shit to me like, no, no, I didn't just make this shit up, you idiots.

00:58:56.000 There's stuff I can't talk about.

00:58:58.000 You're coming from a place of knowledge.

00:58:59.000 You're not some dude who works in a tire shop who's talking shit.

00:59:03.000 Yes, no.

00:59:03.000 He's never strapped on a cup.

00:59:05.000 Yes.

00:59:05.000 Yeah.

00:59:06.000 If anybody's allowed to talk about it, you know, this is a big fight for me, man.

00:59:10.000 I really am into this fight.

00:59:12.000 Look at how fucking goddamn fast John Dotson is.

00:59:16.000 And not only that, John Dotson knocks motherfuckers dead.

00:59:20.000 He knocked out TJ Dillashaw.

00:59:21.000 Look at this.

00:59:22.000 Look at that.

00:59:22.000 Come on, son.

00:59:23.000 Who the fuck knocks guys out at flyweight?

00:59:26.000 Dude, he's so powerful.

00:59:27.000 Me and him is my second fight ever.

00:59:29.000 Look at him.

00:59:30.000 Listen to this, my second fight ever in Washington, and I have my headphones on, and John Dotson and I are in the same locker room because Greg Jackson was cornering us.

00:59:36.000 It was by far my biggest fight at the time, my only second fight ever.

00:59:40.000 And I was fighting this Olympic wrestler, Johnny Curtis, and I have my headphones in, and I'm so nervous, I'm like, Fuck, man, this wrestler, man, he's about to dry hump the fuck out of me.

00:59:50.000 And I'm getting ready to walk out, and I'm listening to Rihanna in my headphones.

00:59:54.000 Which one?

00:59:55.000 I forget which one, but it's like more of an up-tempo beat.

00:59:58.000 Look at Tim Johnson's mustache before we go any further.

01:00:01.000 Let's keep him away from the high school.

01:00:04.000 Kudos to you, sir.

01:00:06.000 Continue.

01:00:06.000 So I'm walking out for this big fight, and John Dodson goes, hey, we don't know each other very well at all.

01:00:11.000 He goes, hey, are you listening to Rihanna, man?

01:00:13.000 I went, yeah.

01:00:13.000 He goes, fuck, that's lame.

01:00:15.000 I went, hmm.

01:00:16.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:00:16.000 Oh, thanks, man.

01:00:18.000 And he just kept walking.

01:00:19.000 I'll never forget that, man.

01:00:20.000 He said, fuck, that's lame.

01:00:21.000 Yeah, he's like, fuck, that's lame.

01:00:22.000 That's funny.

01:00:23.000 Literally as I'm walking to the octagon.

01:00:25.000 He's being silly.

01:00:25.000 No, he's a silly-ass dude.

01:00:27.000 He's a silly dude.

01:00:27.000 He's working at Buffalo Wild Wings at the time.

01:00:29.000 Wow.

01:00:30.000 He pulls the mustache off, this guy.

01:00:31.000 Usually, you know, it's a pedophile thing.

01:00:33.000 No, he's an animal.

01:00:33.000 He pulls it off.

01:00:35.000 And Rochelt's a bad motherfucker, too.

01:00:37.000 He's a team takedown.

01:00:38.000 Big boys.

01:00:39.000 With Hendrix.

01:00:40.000 He's doing a Hendrix-Tyron Woodley fight.

01:00:42.000 That's interesting.

01:00:43.000 That's a great fight.

01:00:44.000 It is.

01:00:44.000 Look at that goddamn Tim Johnson mustache.

01:00:46.000 I love you.

01:00:47.000 You know what?

01:00:47.000 Real soon, that's going to be popular amongst high school kids.

01:00:50.000 I agree.

01:00:51.000 We're all going to wear them.

01:00:52.000 I'll be the first one here with that bullshit mustache.

01:00:55.000 Just fucking...

01:00:56.000 That doesn't look good on you, sir.

01:00:57.000 Well, you don't know.

01:00:58.000 I think slowly, the one that goes down.

01:00:59.000 The one that goes down.

01:01:00.000 I don't know.

01:01:01.000 I've seen it.

01:01:02.000 I've seen it.

01:01:03.000 It's gonna come back.

01:01:04.000 First of all, it doesn't come in that this one.

01:01:05.000 It doesn't.

01:01:06.000 You could work on that.

01:01:07.000 Yeah.

01:01:07.000 Figure out a way to fucking put some testosterone.

01:01:11.000 You know what's gonna happen?

01:01:12.000 It's gonna come in, it's gonna be popular, everyone's gonna have one of those Tom Selleck mustaches, then it's gonna get played out, and it's gonna be gross, and then the new young kids are gonna look at you when you're older with that mustache.

01:01:24.000 He looks like an overgrown musketeer.

01:01:27.000 Eddie overthinks everything when it comes to style and fashion.

01:01:30.000 At one point, the Burt Reynolds child molester mustache was fucking getting you pussy.

01:01:35.000 No, they kind of came in.

01:01:36.000 They came back for a little while, and then they faded back out.

01:01:39.000 Look at now, beards.

01:01:40.000 Beards are so in.

01:01:42.000 Who would have ever thought Grizzly Adams would look cool?

01:01:45.000 Beards are going away now, though.

01:01:46.000 Beards are like a fucking tramp stamp.

01:01:49.000 Everyone has one.

01:01:51.000 No, I think beards are pretty strong.

01:01:53.000 No, I'm telling you, they're not, man.

01:01:54.000 It's on its way out.

01:01:54.000 You think so?

01:01:55.000 Yeah.

01:01:56.000 The way Joe always wears his is what's in right now.

01:01:59.000 I'm a trendsetter, bitch.

01:02:02.000 I read GQ every week.

01:02:04.000 How about the 5 o'clock is in now?

01:02:06.000 5 o'clock is what you want.

01:02:07.000 Oh my god, I'm going to rule that shit.

01:02:10.000 I was doing 5 o'clock before it was cool.

01:02:12.000 Because I was lazy.

01:02:14.000 I'm not good with style.

01:02:15.000 That's what I just said.

01:02:16.000 I just said that.

01:02:17.000 So it's called being lazy.

01:02:18.000 Oh really?

01:02:19.000 You don't even listen.

01:02:20.000 Oh my god.

01:02:21.000 I'm ripping off your material subconsciously.

01:02:24.000 You repeated punchlines seconds later.

01:02:26.000 Fuck yeah.

01:02:27.000 Who can do that?

01:02:29.000 It's called the Bravo Echo.

01:02:31.000 The beard and skinny jeans is like a tribal freaking band tattoo.

01:02:35.000 Well, it's also like cardigans went away.

01:02:37.000 They were in for a while.

01:02:38.000 Guys were trying to look lame on purpose.

01:02:40.000 Rolled up pants seem to be in.

01:02:42.000 A lot of guys are rolling up the bottoms of their pants.

01:02:44.000 Oh, roll out pants!

01:02:45.000 How long is that gonna last?

01:02:47.000 I gotta turn you onto these fucking jeans.

01:02:49.000 They're called barbell jeans.

01:02:51.000 I just started wearing them.

01:02:51.000 My shit was tightening up this.

01:02:53.000 Wait, what are they?

01:02:54.000 These motherfuckers?

01:02:54.000 Dude, these are, look at this.

01:02:56.000 They're made out of like this stretchy hair.

01:02:58.000 Oh, and then they bounce back.

01:02:58.000 Dude, they're like sweatpants!

01:03:00.000 Look, you have no restriction.

01:03:01.000 You want stretchy jeans?

01:03:03.000 Totally, 100%.

01:03:03.000 Girls been wearing them for a while now.

01:03:05.000 But dude, they're loose.

01:03:06.000 They're good for stretchy jeans.

01:03:08.000 Good for turning sidekicks.

01:03:10.000 Sorry, guys.

01:03:10.000 Guys, what if you get jumped by ninjas?

01:03:12.000 Sorry guys, not worried about it, man.

01:03:13.000 For like sitting around.

01:03:14.000 For comfortable.

01:03:15.000 They're the most comfortable jeans I've ever worn by far.

01:03:17.000 It's like sweatpants.

01:03:18.000 What year did Tramp Stamps get gross?

01:03:22.000 On a dude.

01:03:23.000 What year?

01:03:24.000 On a dude?

01:03:25.000 They were always gross on a dude.

01:03:26.000 No, no.

01:03:27.000 I haven't seen one of them.

01:03:29.000 Your memory is...

01:03:31.000 It depends on which dudes you're fucking.

01:03:32.000 Wait, do you have one?

01:03:33.000 No.

01:03:34.000 You fucking have one?

01:03:35.000 No.

01:03:35.000 There you do.

01:03:36.000 I wish I did.

01:03:37.000 Let me see your lower back.

01:03:38.000 Arch your back.

01:03:39.000 Lick your lips.

01:03:40.000 Let me see what's going on.

01:03:42.000 There you go.

01:03:43.000 There you go, Eddie.

01:03:44.000 There you go, Eddie.

01:03:45.000 Nothing.

01:03:46.000 I'm just checking, Eddie.

01:03:47.000 You got a back on you, though.

01:03:48.000 Because you defended the shit houses on his coccyx from doing the guard.

01:03:51.000 No, what I'm saying is, at one point, it wasn't not cool.

01:03:56.000 But at one point, nobody had it.

01:03:58.000 That's incorrect.

01:03:59.000 They were never cool, bro.

01:04:00.000 For males, it's always a critical error.

01:04:02.000 The first dude, are you telling me the first dude that got a tramp stamp, people thought he was gay?

01:04:07.000 He came to his buddies and his buddies went, God, that's a bad idea, bro.

01:04:11.000 If you're a Tommy Lee, leave me.

01:04:12.000 Right away.

01:04:12.000 So you're saying right away.

01:04:13.000 Right away.

01:04:13.000 It was never cool.

01:04:14.000 Now if a girl has it, I see a girl with that, I'm like, yo, do you have good parents?

01:04:18.000 Nah, my dad sucks.

01:04:19.000 Cool, let's talk.

01:04:21.000 I do those kind of guys.

01:04:23.000 But for a girl even, it's kind of not cool, right?

01:04:25.000 Not now.

01:04:26.000 It depends.

01:04:27.000 It's a little slutty thing now.

01:04:28.000 It doesn't bother me at all.

01:04:29.000 Do girls still get tramp stamps?

01:04:33.000 No, absolutely not.

01:04:33.000 I think they don't even get them.

01:04:34.000 They don't even get them.

01:04:35.000 I think tramp stamps are at an all-time low.

01:04:38.000 Girls are ribs, right?

01:04:38.000 I think if we saw a graph of the tramp stamp, you would see 1993, the fucking peak!

01:04:43.000 And then BAM! And by 2015, that shit's fucking...

01:04:47.000 It's true.

01:04:48.000 Where do you get them?

01:04:49.000 That's true.

01:04:50.000 There's not as many, but if a girl has something artistic back there, like really good work, it's like the tribal stuff is kind of like, why are you doing that back there?

01:04:59.000 But every now and then you'll see something that looks really good.

01:05:01.000 You'll see like a Yakuza tattoo.

01:05:02.000 That is so rare.

01:05:04.000 Personally for me, I don't give a shit.

01:05:07.000 If a girl has a tramp stamp, who gives a fuck if she's hot?

01:05:10.000 You should start a website called reallygoodtrampstamps.com.

01:05:14.000 I'm sure it's out there.

01:05:14.000 Who gives a fuck?

01:05:15.000 Let's see if reallygoodtrampstamps.com is hot.

01:05:18.000 Can you imagine a guy, a hot chick, she's cool, she's making you laugh, and you turn around, and then you're like, oh no, I'm out of this bitch.

01:05:28.000 Fuck no!

01:05:29.000 Guess what, guys?

01:05:31.000 Reallygoodtrampstamp.com does not exist.

01:05:32.000 What?!

01:05:33.000 So anyone listening, go for it.

01:05:35.000 Hey, this heavyweight fight is probably not going to last long.

01:05:40.000 Because they're both wrestlers.

01:05:42.000 Let's see what this fight is all about.

01:05:44.000 Does she have a trap step?

01:05:45.000 She's pretty.

01:05:47.000 Who's that young lady?

01:05:47.000 Did you see the new Brazilian ring card girl?

01:05:50.000 Which one?

01:05:53.000 The new one!

01:05:54.000 Alright, Tim Johnson and Jared Rochalt.

01:05:56.000 Yeah, well, there's a bunch of really pretty ones, man, for sure.

01:05:58.000 Bro, this new one I just saw the other day.

01:05:59.000 I almost fell in my seat.

01:06:01.000 Tim Johnson, Jared Rochalt.

01:06:03.000 Tim Johnson's the one that looks like Bronson from that Australian movie.

01:06:06.000 Yeah, right.

01:06:07.000 English movie.

01:06:08.000 Was it English?

01:06:09.000 English, yeah.

01:06:09.000 It's a big fella.

01:06:10.000 The Australian guy, Tom Hardy, was the actor, right?

01:06:12.000 Yes.

01:06:14.000 Great movie.

01:06:16.000 There's a couple of big white guys.

01:06:18.000 Big boys.

01:06:20.000 Big fucking boys.

01:06:21.000 Giant whites.

01:06:21.000 A lot of flesh flying around right now.

01:06:23.000 A lot of stakes.

01:06:24.000 Like, there's different stakes when you're fucking dealing with a 230-pound man punching you.

01:06:28.000 Right, Brendan?

01:06:28.000 Yeah, a jab will rock your world.

01:06:30.000 You were talking about that, about the 225 division.

01:06:32.000 You got a good point, man.

01:06:33.000 I think that's exactly the right weight, too.

01:06:36.000 225 makes sense.

01:06:38.000 Yeah, that's the right weight.

01:06:38.000 Because you're talking about, you know, if I weigh in at, you know, I've weighed in as light as 231, 232, and I've weighed in as 265. Basically, 35 pounds heavier.

01:06:48.000 That's insane.

01:06:49.000 And you would get a lot of those guys cutting weight down, too, to get to 225. All the time, man.

01:06:53.000 You get a lot of guys.

01:06:54.000 I mean, we have guys that have cut to get to 265, right?

01:06:58.000 Tim Sylvia, Brock Lesnar.

01:07:01.000 Soapololele, he just lost, right?

01:07:02.000 He had to cut to 265. I was there when Tim Sylvia was at his most muscular best, when he beat Rico and those days.

01:07:13.000 Tim Sylvia was giant.

01:07:14.000 Good luck beating that guy.

01:07:15.000 He used to cut weight to get to 265. A lot of people sleep on Tim Sylvia, but I'll tell you what, the Tim Sylvia that beat Rico Rodriguez, He was a monster.

01:07:22.000 One of the best heavyweights.

01:07:24.000 Especially at that time, would be one of the hardest heavyweights to be in.

01:07:26.000 You're talking about a guy, how tall is he?

01:07:27.000 Six?

01:07:28.000 Eight?

01:07:28.000 Something crazy like that.

01:07:30.000 Crazy.

01:07:30.000 Crazy takedown defense.

01:07:31.000 Great stand-up.

01:07:32.000 That motherfucker who was bad.

01:07:34.000 Who was that?

01:07:35.000 Kim Sylvia.

01:07:36.000 He doesn't get enough credit.

01:07:37.000 Game as fuck.

01:07:38.000 Super game.

01:07:38.000 Frank Mir breaks his arm.

01:07:39.000 He's trying to punch him with the other arm.

01:07:40.000 Didn't even know.

01:07:41.000 Do you remember the Noguera fight?

01:07:43.000 Yes.

01:07:43.000 How did Noguera win?

01:07:44.000 Guillotine.

01:07:45.000 How?

01:07:45.000 Because he reversed him.

01:07:47.000 He baited him into it and reversed guillotine.

01:07:48.000 He baited him.

01:07:48.000 Baited how?

01:07:49.000 Go back, back, backtrack.

01:07:51.000 Was it Winslow from half guard and he let him get up and then got it?

01:07:54.000 How did he get to half guard?

01:07:57.000 Pulled guard.

01:07:58.000 Did he pull?

01:07:58.000 Half guard?

01:07:59.000 Pulled guard.

01:07:59.000 He got hit.

01:08:00.000 He got tagged.

01:08:01.000 He got hurt.

01:08:01.000 He pulled guard.

01:08:02.000 No, he just went for a shitty single.

01:08:06.000 Oh, and then went to his back.

01:08:06.000 And then pulled a deep half.

01:08:07.000 There you go.

01:08:08.000 Swept him with a deep half.

01:08:09.000 Got on top.

01:08:10.000 That's right.

01:08:11.000 Top half and then guillotined him.

01:08:12.000 He couldn't take him down.

01:08:14.000 And he was losing.

01:08:16.000 Didn't Tim Sylvia heard him?

01:08:17.000 Tim Sylvia was fucking him up standing.

01:08:18.000 And he couldn't take him down, and he was like, I'm losing this motherfucker.

01:08:21.000 I can't take him down.

01:08:22.000 So what did he do?

01:08:23.000 What did he do?

01:08:24.000 He said, I gotta pull fucking guard.

01:08:25.000 Okay, so he pulled guard by going with a fake takedown.

01:08:28.000 Like a shitty single, and then he just fell.

01:08:30.000 And then he just swept him.

01:08:32.000 He outsmarted him.

01:08:33.000 And then baited him into sitting up, grabbed the neck, and then choked him out.

01:08:37.000 He just went right through him.

01:08:38.000 He had to pull guard to get that fucking gun.

01:08:41.000 How goddamn tough is Noguera?

01:08:42.000 Did you see the fight with Stefan Struve?

01:08:44.000 I wanted to jump out of my TV and be like, can someone please stop this?

01:08:47.000 Fuck this, man.

01:08:49.000 He's too tough.

01:08:49.000 He's too tough for his own good.

01:08:51.000 He's getting destroyed.

01:08:53.000 His body was getting just smashed.

01:08:56.000 That made me feel sick.

01:08:58.000 Speaking of great heavyweights, Fedor, in the talk with the UFC. Why'd they just stop this?

01:09:03.000 They separated him because they weren't active enough.

01:09:06.000 What do you think?

01:09:06.000 You just give him Verdum right away and say, fuck the world.

01:09:09.000 It's Fedor.

01:09:09.000 Say, fuck the world.

01:09:10.000 We're going to do it.

01:09:11.000 Fuck you guys.

01:09:11.000 Shut the fuck up.

01:09:12.000 Let's do it.

01:09:13.000 You don't have to be so aggressive.

01:09:14.000 It's business.

01:09:15.000 No, because you know what?

01:09:16.000 Because there's It's going to be a bunch of douchebags out there going, he should have to earn his way to the top.

01:09:22.000 It doesn't matter, man.

01:09:23.000 No, it's Fedor.

01:09:23.000 No one's really going to say that.

01:09:24.000 I have a guy call me.

01:09:26.000 You're always going to have people complaining.

01:09:27.000 Always, no matter what you decide.

01:09:28.000 He lost a big foot.

01:09:29.000 He lost a...

01:09:30.000 Look at this.

01:09:32.000 Rochalt.

01:09:32.000 He's trying to get to full mount.

01:09:33.000 For sure let go of that headlock.

01:09:34.000 No, he's in full mount, man.

01:09:35.000 He's in full mount.

01:09:36.000 Oh, yeah, he is now.

01:09:37.000 For sure.

01:09:38.000 This dummy doesn't know what he's doing.

01:09:39.000 He has no idea.

01:09:40.000 He could go Von Flu choke.

01:09:41.000 Yep.

01:09:42.000 Should he jump over to the other side with both feet?

01:09:44.000 No, he should go Von Flu.

01:09:45.000 He's going Von Flu.

01:09:46.000 He's going Von Flu.

01:09:47.000 Or Von Flu.

01:09:48.000 No, he has Von Flu.

01:09:49.000 Or Kimura.

01:09:49.000 What's up?

01:09:50.000 Von Flu.

01:09:50.000 Go to the other side.

01:09:51.000 Yeah, this side's Von Flu.

01:09:52.000 Oh, he's out.

01:09:53.000 This side's Von Flu.

01:09:54.000 He's going to put him out.

01:09:55.000 He let go, but he still could get choked out here.

01:09:58.000 I had a Fox reporter call me.

01:10:00.000 He's like, I want to get your thoughts of fighting Fedor.

01:10:03.000 You got no interview, man.

01:10:05.000 There's no thoughts.

01:10:06.000 I don't even deserve to fight that guy.

01:10:08.000 They just know you're a loose cannon.

01:10:09.000 You'll say nutty shit.

01:10:11.000 They know I'm going to drop some bombs.

01:10:12.000 Not when it comes to Fedor, though.

01:10:14.000 I was just like, I got nothing for you, man.

01:10:16.000 I wouldn't disrespect that guy like that.

01:10:17.000 He needs to fight for the title.

01:10:19.000 I think he goes right to Verdum.

01:10:20.000 Oh, so if they wanted you to fight him?

01:10:22.000 If they said, hey, let's get Fedor in here.

01:10:25.000 We'll introduce him.

01:10:25.000 A warm-up?

01:10:26.000 Yeah, we'll get him Brendan Shaw.

01:10:27.000 You wouldn't do it?

01:10:28.000 I probably would for Fedor.

01:10:30.000 But they're not going to do that.

01:10:31.000 He needs to go right to Fedor.

01:10:33.000 Yeah.

01:10:33.000 You never know.

01:10:35.000 You never know.

01:10:36.000 You never know.

01:10:37.000 It doesn't make sense, man.

01:10:39.000 I personally, I would give him right to Verdum.

01:10:42.000 How about Cain?

01:10:43.000 Cain Velasquez?

01:10:44.000 Yeah, let's not give him any...

01:10:45.000 Let's just go right to what he wants.

01:10:47.000 The rematch.

01:10:48.000 The story is the rematch.

01:10:49.000 That's the story.

01:10:49.000 Let me ask you this about these shorts.

01:10:51.000 Are you allowed to wear regular shorts or tight shorts?

01:10:55.000 Yeah, you pick.

01:10:56.000 Reebok makes both.

01:10:56.000 Don't you think they should just go with only tights so that grabbing them is no longer an issue?

01:11:00.000 No, because some guys are self-conscious about it and they don't feel comfortable in tights.

01:11:03.000 So you're going to force me to wear fucking tights now?

01:11:05.000 You're already in your underwear.

01:11:06.000 It's not a problem.

01:11:07.000 People grabbing shorts is not a problem.

01:11:08.000 It's not a game changer.

01:11:10.000 It's not like an epic problem.

01:11:11.000 Oh, it does come up occasionally.

01:11:13.000 Yeah, but it's not like, holy shit, these guys keep grabbing shorts.

01:11:16.000 Right.

01:11:16.000 I feel you, though.

01:11:17.000 I just feel like it's like, even if it's one percent or one-tenth of one percent of clinch situations, you can avoid that.

01:11:24.000 True.

01:11:25.000 I'm not trying to see fucking...

01:11:26.000 It's not a problem, though.

01:11:26.000 This dude with the mustache and some tights, though.

01:11:29.000 It's bad for marketing, bro.

01:11:31.000 Is Rochelle wearing tights or shorts?

01:11:33.000 It looks like shorts.

01:11:34.000 He's just so goddamn big they look like tights.

01:11:36.000 I like that American flag on his chest.

01:11:39.000 Pull that chest apart.

01:11:41.000 It's an interesting American.

01:11:42.000 Oh, I see.

01:11:43.000 He's American underneath his skin.

01:11:45.000 Heart of American.

01:11:47.000 Not like this fucking guy from Australia that used to be in prison.

01:11:50.000 We're about to fight.

01:11:51.000 Damn!

01:11:52.000 That guy's mean-looking.

01:11:54.000 Australian prisoner.

01:11:56.000 His body looks like- Oh, man!

01:11:57.000 Yeah, his body is- If he fucked you in the ass, you wouldn't be shocked.

01:12:01.000 He's got a relaxed physique.

01:12:02.000 He looks like you're fucking- He's rather relaxed.

01:12:04.000 It would be the humiliation of not just a big guy fucking you, but feeling his gut slap against your ass.

01:12:09.000 But you wouldn't be shocked at all.

01:12:11.000 You wouldn't be surprised.

01:12:12.000 The sides of his gut wrap around the sides of your ass.

01:12:15.000 Chris touched his shirt, and that went through my mind.

01:12:17.000 I thought, if I lose this guy, he's the worst body I've ever seen.

01:12:20.000 How dare you?

01:12:21.000 How dare you?

01:12:23.000 Knock the gentleman out.

01:12:23.000 There's got to be a way.

01:12:24.000 He could definitely lose that gut.

01:12:25.000 That gut is...

01:12:26.000 All they have to do is just not eat the same foods.

01:12:29.000 Oh, he's kind of rocked them.

01:12:31.000 Oh, the standard American diet.

01:12:33.000 I mean, these guys are big, giant dudes.

01:12:35.000 But listen, it's real simple.

01:12:36.000 Calories in, calories out.

01:12:38.000 100%.

01:12:39.000 If you're carrying around that much body fat, you're taking in too many calories.

01:12:42.000 And the wrong kind of calories.

01:12:43.000 The question is, though...

01:12:45.000 25 to 30. But is there a benefit?

01:12:47.000 Is there a benefit to carrying a little body fat like these guys are if you don't have a weight limit and maybe you're not as big as, say, a Bigfoot solo?

01:12:55.000 A little?

01:12:56.000 My boy Tony's just, he said, fuck it.

01:12:59.000 Fuck it.

01:12:59.000 A tan for what?

01:13:01.000 A tan.

01:13:01.000 Calorie restriction for what?

01:13:03.000 You're talking about, like, looks.

01:13:04.000 But forget about looks.

01:13:05.000 Is there any benefit to, like, having this extra weight?

01:13:08.000 No.

01:13:08.000 Especially if you're on top?

01:13:09.000 Hell no.

01:13:10.000 What about padding?

01:13:11.000 Does it make that much of a difference?

01:13:12.000 It's rather unsightly.

01:13:14.000 It's unsightly.

01:13:14.000 I'd be the first to say it, but I think it's rather unsightly.

01:13:17.000 Have you ever had a backpack?

01:13:18.000 You ever take your backpack off and it's just your laptop in it and some other bullshit?

01:13:22.000 You take it off and you're like, phew, that's light.

01:13:24.000 Yeah, hell yeah.

01:13:25.000 Think about that.

01:13:25.000 That's like 10 pounds.

01:13:26.000 I mean, these guys might have like two or three fucking backpacks on all the time.

01:13:30.000 They just got used to it.

01:13:31.000 Yeah.

01:13:32.000 And if they got rid of that shit, they would move a lot better.

01:13:36.000 That's a good analogy.

01:13:37.000 I never looked at it as backpacks.

01:13:39.000 You feel fucking good when you take a loaded backpack off.

01:13:42.000 Like, holy fuck.

01:13:43.000 When you take a t-shirt off, you feel way better.

01:13:46.000 Yeah, dude.

01:13:46.000 Look, I've worn backpacks.

01:13:48.000 When Rinella and I were hunting, Brian, we wore backpacks and carried rifles for miles and miles.

01:13:53.000 It's annoying.

01:13:54.000 When you take that stupid...

01:13:55.000 I don't know.

01:13:56.000 How much does a rifle weigh?

01:13:57.000 You feel like a feather.

01:13:58.000 25, 30 pounds.

01:13:59.000 I don't know.

01:14:00.000 Yeah, my rifle's pretty heavy.

01:14:01.000 It's a heavy rifle.

01:14:03.000 I think when you take that rifle off and you set it down, you feel lighter.

01:14:08.000 I think it weighs about 15 pounds, right, a rifle?

01:14:11.000 Well, it's probably at least 15. Let's say 15. Mine's a really heavy rifle.

01:14:15.000 30's a shit rifle.

01:14:17.000 I bet your rifle's easily 20 pounds.

01:14:20.000 But either way, the bottom line is it's awkward and you're carrying all that weight around.

01:14:23.000 You've got fat around your legs that impedes your legs from moving as quick as they should.

01:14:27.000 For sure.

01:14:28.000 Especially like kicks and stuff.

01:14:29.000 Could you imagine if you had to throw kicks and you had like five pairs of pants on?

01:14:33.000 How goddamn annoying that would be?

01:14:34.000 It'd be tough.

01:14:34.000 But think about it.

01:14:35.000 Well, first of all, and this is the way that Johnson dude, that belly's not helping right now.

01:14:40.000 This is the way that Johnson dude looks training for eight weeks.

01:14:44.000 Now think about when he says, fuck it and retires.

01:14:46.000 Oh, shit.

01:14:47.000 Think about when he says, fuck this noise.

01:14:49.000 I know, this guy's in good shape.

01:14:51.000 Yeah, he's in good shape.

01:14:52.000 He's in the middle of the second round still kicking.

01:14:55.000 Once he retires, it's off to the races.

01:14:58.000 Didn't Paul Harris say that about Jake Shields, that Jake Shields was greased?

01:15:02.000 He says that about everyone.

01:15:03.000 Yeah, we thought that about Nate Marquardt, but Nate Marquardt explained it.

01:15:07.000 Nate Marquardt put rubber pants on, he got a real good sweat before he went out there.

01:15:10.000 For that exact reason, and then knocked his ass out.

01:15:13.000 He's like, I'm not stupid, because I'm going to come out there sweaty.

01:15:15.000 Yep, with shave your legs and all that shit.

01:15:17.000 Yeah, fuck it.

01:15:18.000 He didn't shave your legs.

01:15:18.000 Who's got the fucking razor?

01:15:21.000 He's suspended and they took away his title.

01:15:23.000 They stripped him of his title.

01:15:24.000 Well deserved.

01:15:25.000 Well, I think they're going to bring him, I mean, if they get rid of him, oh, Rochardt looking for the head and arm.

01:15:30.000 I think if they get rid of him, he goes to Bellator.

01:15:32.000 I think Bellator would be crazy to not take him.

01:15:33.000 I agree.

01:15:34.000 For sure.

01:15:35.000 He'd be crazy to not take him.

01:15:36.000 He's got so much controversy behind him.

01:15:38.000 He's a bad boy.

01:15:38.000 Everybody's afraid of him.

01:15:39.000 Let me just get him some ayahuasca therapy, take him out to the fucking jungle, give him a straw hat.

01:15:44.000 That shit ain't gonna work, dog.

01:15:45.000 Give him a fucking coconut with a straw in it.

01:15:47.000 You know what?

01:15:47.000 I think if someone else signs up, Brian, Brian goes, hey, I need you to do me a favor.

01:15:52.000 You need to whoop Paul Harry's ass.

01:15:53.000 I ain't whooping his ass.

01:15:55.000 I'm scared of that motherfucker as much as everyone else.

01:15:57.000 I'll give you steel, I'll give you steel, ankle girdles, and goggles.

01:16:03.000 Will it make your organization look bad if you signed him?

01:16:06.000 Will the public turn against that organization when they start petitioning him?

01:16:11.000 Don't give a fuck.

01:16:11.000 They had Ken Shamrock and Kimbo Slices.

01:16:14.000 This is different.

01:16:15.000 Americana, look at the tap.

01:16:16.000 Look at the tap.

01:16:17.000 Look at that left hand.

01:16:18.000 The left hand's not defending.

01:16:19.000 It's thinking it's happening.

01:16:22.000 Look at that hand.

01:16:23.000 That hand is thinking.

01:16:24.000 Yeah, but this is okay up here.

01:16:25.000 Up here's okay.

01:16:27.000 It's really when you get it down to your body that you have no room for movement.

01:16:30.000 He just needs to free that.

01:16:32.000 Oh, there you go.

01:16:34.000 Sometimes guys just don't know about just sucking it up next to the guy's ribs.

01:16:37.000 Or he's exhausted.

01:16:38.000 That's possible, too.

01:16:39.000 They're focused on the arm that's being attacked instead of using the other one to escape.

01:16:43.000 That's the way out.

01:16:44.000 Well, the guy on the bottom, yeah.

01:16:45.000 The guy on the top.

01:16:46.000 The guy at the top, once you have that double wrist lock, you gotta concentrate everything on getting that fucking elbow to his side.

01:16:51.000 That's everything.

01:16:52.000 Getting the elbow to the side- Keeping it tight.

01:16:54.000 Yeah.

01:16:55.000 Bringing it down, I think he was going for the Americana, right?

01:16:58.000 So if he brings it down towards the ribcage, the amount of movement that you could tolerate is so small.

01:17:04.000 Yeah, there's not much range.

01:17:05.000 Yeah, up here, there's so much range up there.

01:17:08.000 A guy can fuck you.

01:17:09.000 If a guy is really strong, like some Alistair ovary motherfucker can get you up here and it'll hurt and you'll just tap just because you know it's going to get ripped apart anyway.

01:17:16.000 But anybody can get you down here.

01:17:18.000 Like once that thing gets down to your ribs, boy, the tolerance of the shoulder joint in that position.

01:17:22.000 Yeah, there's not much movement there.

01:17:24.000 It's powerful Rhonda in another commercial.

01:17:25.000 Jesus fucking Christ!

01:17:26.000 That's her fourth one, I think.

01:17:30.000 What's Overeem?

01:17:31.000 What the fuck's up with Overeem?

01:17:33.000 Overeem Junior Dos Santos.

01:17:34.000 I just called it today.

01:17:35.000 I did a countdown thing for it today.

01:17:37.000 What?

01:17:37.000 That's official?

01:17:38.000 I don't know, but I just leaked it.

01:17:39.000 Sorry.

01:17:42.000 When's that going down?

01:17:45.000 Sometimes I do things that don't ever take place.

01:17:47.000 There's a bunch of fights that I have done countdown shows for that have never taken place.

01:17:52.000 I did two theoretical fights today.

01:17:54.000 I did two theoretical fights that may or may not happen, but they haven't been signed.

01:17:58.000 That might have been one of them.

01:17:59.000 I forget.

01:18:00.000 Another one was Cyborg Rousey.

01:18:02.000 No, I didn't do that.

01:18:04.000 But I've done some before where the fights never took place.

01:18:06.000 Or, you know, along the way.

01:18:07.000 Something falls out.

01:18:08.000 Something falls out.

01:18:09.000 People get injured.

01:18:10.000 I think they've been fighting.

01:18:12.000 They've been trying for this fight for a long time.

01:18:13.000 But what's going on right now is that Junior is coming back from surgery.

01:18:17.000 He's never been the same after those camps.

01:18:27.000 It's 100% true.

01:18:29.000 There's no way anybody can avoid it.

01:18:32.000 It's just the way of the game.

01:18:33.000 We've seen it too many times.

01:18:35.000 There's no one who gets out of it without...

01:18:37.000 I mean, even Mark Hunt.

01:18:38.000 When Stipe beat the shit out of Mark Hunt, that was like...

01:18:41.000 You could see that this is a different Mark Hunt.

01:18:44.000 This is a Mark Hunt that's like at the end of the line.

01:18:47.000 Well, I was talking to...

01:18:48.000 Tough as he is.

01:18:50.000 I was talking to my buddy Cody.

01:18:51.000 God, that guy's tough.

01:18:51.000 My buddy Cody goes to Vegas to have his brain researched by some clinic there, and they're using fighters.

01:18:58.000 And they're doing a lifetime test where you go every year, and they do five years, ten years.

01:19:02.000 And Cody went back for his five years until he did it five years ago.

01:19:06.000 And they said, when you get knocked out, it affects...

01:19:08.000 It depends on you, on your brain.

01:19:11.000 It can affect certain parts.

01:19:12.000 For some people, it's the way they act.

01:19:14.000 For some people, it's the way they think.

01:19:16.000 For a lot of people, it's their motor skills.

01:19:19.000 It just depends.

01:19:20.000 For a lot of people, it's their speech.

01:19:21.000 So he was saying it just depends on...

01:19:24.000 Basically the way your brain's designed.

01:19:26.000 And he was telling Cody that there's certain fights, and he was having Cody go through all his fight history, and he goes, there's certain fights where, for whatever reason, you took one punch and you will never be the same.

01:19:38.000 Ever.

01:19:38.000 It doesn't matter what you do, but you will never be the same fighter ever again.

01:19:41.000 Because it affects a certain part of your brain?

01:19:42.000 Yeah, it affects a certain brain that will never, ever be the same again.

01:19:45.000 Damn.

01:19:45.000 Yeah, I had Kirk from MixedMartialArts.com on the podcast, and he was talking to me about this guy that we knew that they told him he could never get hit in the head again.

01:19:55.000 They're like, don't ever get hit in the head again.

01:19:58.000 Because of an aneurysm?

01:20:01.000 It's been just cracked too many times.

01:20:02.000 Or one time too many.

01:20:03.000 You can get head kicked, especially if you get head kicked.

01:20:06.000 Yeah, man.

01:20:07.000 It's so hard and nasty.

01:20:08.000 Me and Cody were talking about our original team.

01:20:10.000 I'm not going to mention names, but we were going through it.

01:20:12.000 I'm like, bro, who's doing well now?

01:20:14.000 Who's the same mentally that we can talk to?

01:20:16.000 There's not many, man.

01:20:18.000 There's just not many guys, and we had a ridiculous team.

01:20:21.000 If you're watching a guy like, say, Anthony Pettis.

01:20:23.000 Anthony Pettis, when he knocked out Joe Lozon with that nasty head kick, or knocked out Cerrone with that body kick.

01:20:29.000 How many times can you let Anthony Pettis kick you before you're never the same again?

01:20:33.000 There's a certain amount of numbers you can get hit with.

01:20:35.000 That guy hits you so fucking fast and hard, and when he hits guys, they slump.

01:20:39.000 They blam!

01:20:40.000 And then they slump.

01:20:41.000 Like Lozon.

01:20:42.000 Lozon's tough as fuck.

01:20:43.000 You watch that head kick, and you go, Jesus Christ.

01:20:46.000 Or the Iaquinta fight?

01:20:48.000 Yeah.

01:20:48.000 You know, it's tough, man.

01:20:50.000 But the thing that people forget, you're only going to get those crazy hits.

01:20:54.000 The body doesn't know whether you're doing it in training or you're doing it for money.

01:20:58.000 The body does not know if it counts for the UFC or in training.

01:21:00.000 Well, did you see the glory?

01:21:02.000 Joseph Valtellini relinquished his title because of post-concussion syndrome.

01:21:07.000 No, I didn't see that.

01:21:08.000 Valtellini was the glory champ.

01:21:11.000 Badass.

01:21:11.000 Bad motherfucker.

01:21:11.000 Super bad.

01:21:12.000 Right up there with Nicky Holtzkin.

01:21:14.000 They had a great fight.

01:21:15.000 Nicky stopped him in the last round.

01:21:17.000 Nicky was winning the fight, but it was a good fight.

01:21:19.000 And Mark DeBond, he's another guy that he fought.

01:21:21.000 He head-kicked DeBond, knocked him down.

01:21:23.000 I mean, he's fucking very, very high level.

01:21:25.000 And he goes, you know what?

01:21:26.000 I gotta stop.

01:21:27.000 I gotta stop and take some time off.

01:21:28.000 So he did commentary on this last card.

01:21:31.000 It's a reality that everybody wants to avoid.

01:21:33.000 It's a part of this because it's everything you do.

01:21:36.000 You throw your whole heart and soul into it.

01:21:37.000 It just doesn't seem fair that everything you love and everything that makes you who you are and gives you your identity is also stealing your mind.

01:21:44.000 But that's why people respect fighters.

01:21:46.000 That's why we look up to fighters and that's why fighters are a lot of people's heroes.

01:21:49.000 But there's a price.

01:21:50.000 Yeah.

01:21:50.000 Well, it's also combat sports.

01:21:52.000 There are two parts of your body that are not made for combat sports, no matter what.

01:21:55.000 Your knees and your head.

01:21:56.000 You know, regardless.

01:21:57.000 I thought you were going to say your dick and your balls.

01:21:58.000 Yeah, me too.

01:21:59.000 And your dick and your balls.

01:22:00.000 I thought you were going to say your dick and your brain.

01:22:01.000 It's the back too, Brian.

01:22:03.000 I have contact.

01:22:03.000 The back is worse because they can fix the knees.

01:22:06.000 Yeah.

01:22:06.000 They can do some pretty good fixing of the knees.

01:22:08.000 They can basically fix everything except your brain.

01:22:11.000 With science these days.

01:22:12.000 Almost.

01:22:13.000 Almost.

01:22:14.000 There's some back stuff that they really can't fix.

01:22:15.000 Your knees really aren't an issue.

01:22:16.000 That's a bad point.

01:22:17.000 But your knees are always the first to go, aren't they?

01:22:20.000 Not really.

01:22:20.000 Your brain for sure goes before everything else.

01:22:22.000 Well, your knees can go early, but they can fix them and make them better than they were before as long as you don't have too much meniscus and cartilage damage.

01:22:30.000 And now, apparently, they're regenerating cartilage with these stem cell treatments.

01:22:35.000 It's crazy.

01:22:35.000 Yeah, and this is like what we have now.

01:22:37.000 What's it going to be like five years from now?

01:22:39.000 I agree.

01:22:39.000 They have a scaffolding now that allows them to regrow meniscus.

01:22:45.000 I wonder if they have to take a cadaver, I think.

01:22:47.000 No, it's an artificial meniscus.

01:22:50.000 It's something that they create.

01:22:52.000 I think it's like they take the...

01:22:53.000 Oh, shit!

01:22:55.000 This fight is getting crazy.

01:22:57.000 Johnson just hit Roshaw with a bomb of a right hand.

01:23:00.000 Now he's got him down on the ground.

01:23:02.000 I wonder what percentage of NFL football players have had knee surgery.

01:23:06.000 Oh, God.

01:23:06.000 Knee surgery?

01:23:07.000 Yeah.

01:23:07.000 I mean, a ton.

01:23:08.000 Probably like 90%.

01:23:09.000 They're getting hit in the knees, though.

01:23:11.000 90%.

01:23:12.000 Well, they took away chop blocking.

01:23:13.000 Like, you can't tack out the knees.

01:23:15.000 There's no chop blocking.

01:23:16.000 There's certain rules they put in.

01:23:17.000 But in a scramble, crazy shit happens.

01:23:19.000 Just like sometimes guys don't mean to punch a guy in the back of the head.

01:23:23.000 Crazy shit happens, and that happens in football, too.

01:23:25.000 Well, in the NFL, now the guy's running fucking 30 yards, runs a 4-3 in the 40. What?

01:23:31.000 What?

01:23:32.000 Football is gnarly as fuck.

01:23:34.000 So nuts.

01:23:34.000 It's so crazy to think of how fucking powerful these guys are.

01:23:37.000 I love it.

01:23:38.000 It's insane.

01:23:40.000 It's insane.

01:23:41.000 I couldn't stop staring at Aldon Smith.

01:23:43.000 He was in just a pair of shorts.

01:23:45.000 Oh, the guy that we were talking about on the TV last night?

01:23:48.000 Is that the guy you were talking about?

01:23:50.000 The guy you got cut by the 49ers?

01:23:55.000 He got cut?

01:23:56.000 The 49ers released him, but I can't talk about it, but I have some shit that I know because I talked to Tariq, his head coach, and you'll see.

01:24:03.000 He's okay, huh?

01:24:04.000 He's fine.

01:24:05.000 I love that guy.

01:24:06.000 It's a bummer.

01:24:06.000 I love that guy.

01:24:07.000 Oh, Jesus, look at this fucking exchange.

01:24:09.000 I don't know who won.

01:24:10.000 I didn't watch close enough.

01:24:11.000 I didn't watch close enough either.

01:24:12.000 Anytime a heavyweight fight gets a decision, no one's a fan.

01:24:15.000 Believe me.

01:24:15.000 Oh, that was a wild fight, man.

01:24:17.000 Yeah, that was a wild fight.

01:24:18.000 I think our definition of wild is different, but yeah.

01:24:20.000 That was kind of fun to watch.

01:24:21.000 Yeah.

01:24:22.000 I'm going to say wild.

01:24:22.000 It's not the greatest.

01:24:24.000 My God, Brendan.

01:24:25.000 I'll just say it's not wild, bro.

01:24:27.000 Let the gentlemen have their bout.

01:24:28.000 He's being rather judgmental and confrontational.

01:24:33.000 I would do that.

01:24:33.000 I'm going to eat into the mic for sure.

01:24:36.000 Yep.

01:24:37.000 We tried to hide those.

01:24:38.000 I knew he was going to do this.

01:24:39.000 Where'd you get those?

01:24:40.000 I'm not going to eat into that.

01:24:42.000 Yeah.

01:24:43.000 We can hear it.

01:24:44.000 We can hear that shit loud and clear, dude.

01:24:46.000 Yeah.

01:24:46.000 These are good microphones.

01:24:48.000 This isn't your setup.

01:24:49.000 This isn't Fox.

01:24:51.000 These are real microphones.

01:24:52.000 This is all high-tech shit.

01:24:53.000 Hold on now.

01:24:53.000 Hold on.

01:24:54.000 Yep, can still hear it.

01:24:56.000 There's microphones that we can get that'll catch even more of the atmosphere of the room than this, but I think this is the right compromise.

01:25:02.000 This is my favorite studio, man, I've ever been in.

01:25:05.000 I love this studio.

01:25:06.000 Me too.

01:25:06.000 I gotta recreate this bitch in the new spot.

01:25:09.000 I was telling you guys a little bit off here, because we were renegotiating our contract with Fox, And the heads of Fox, the suits, they hate the kid in Big Brown, but they love our numbers.

01:25:22.000 How do you know they hate you?

01:25:23.000 Are you paranoid?

01:25:23.000 They don't know the podcast.

01:25:25.000 No, no, no.

01:25:25.000 They don't know the podcast.

01:25:26.000 But they listen to it because, like, what's going on?

01:25:28.000 We're getting all these comments, and then me and Brian are talking about dick jokes and honeydicking and chicken heads.

01:25:33.000 It's not very corporate.

01:25:34.000 Yeah, it's not very corporate.

01:25:36.000 Tell them what they tell you.

01:25:37.000 This is Pete.

01:25:38.000 He goes, is there any way you guys can talk less about dicks?

01:25:42.000 Is there any way?

01:25:43.000 I went, no!

01:25:45.000 No, that's what we do, bro!

01:25:47.000 Probably not.

01:25:47.000 We just can't.

01:25:48.000 We're too young to do that.

01:25:49.000 I'm 48. Well, here's the thing, man.

01:25:51.000 Once they start asking you, it's just never going to stop.

01:25:53.000 No, no, that was the term, though, because we came to an agreement.

01:25:56.000 And they go, we're going to let you keep doing your thing because you have great numbers.

01:25:58.000 You guys do that.

01:25:59.000 And now we're going to do, we just signed this deal to do digital shows of Brian and myself like Robin Bigg.

01:26:07.000 What's Robin Bigg?

01:26:09.000 Basically like...

01:26:10.000 How would you describe Robin Bigg, Jamie?

01:26:13.000 What is it?

01:26:14.000 It's a reality show.

01:26:15.000 But like, you do stupid stuff like Brian and I are going to attempt Naked and Afraid.

01:26:19.000 We're going to go fucking out in the woods butt naked.

01:26:21.000 Who let you do this?

01:26:22.000 Why didn't you guys talk to me first?

01:26:24.000 Don't do this.

01:26:25.000 Don't do a reality show.

01:26:27.000 It's not a reality show.

01:26:29.000 It's an extension of the podcast.

01:26:30.000 Yeah, it's just two or three minute sketches.

01:26:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:26:32.000 Like sketches.

01:26:33.000 Naked and Afraid for two or three minutes.

01:26:34.000 Yeah.

01:26:35.000 Yeah, Brendan learns how to be an actor.

01:26:37.000 Your podcast numbers are undeniable now.

01:26:40.000 Yeah, it's going well.

01:26:41.000 You're getting 50 cent as a fucking guest.

01:26:43.000 It's crazy.

01:26:43.000 All these different people are your guests.

01:26:44.000 It's undeniable.

01:26:45.000 So once that happens, there's really nothing they can do.

01:26:47.000 They fucked up.

01:26:48.000 It's like what happened with the internet.

01:26:50.000 The government, I'm sure, would not like everyone to have access to all the information in the world all the time.

01:26:56.000 But the door's open.

01:26:57.000 There's nothing they can do about it now.

01:26:59.000 Once it gets open like that, that's what it is.

01:27:02.000 Yeah, they were cool about it.

01:27:03.000 They're just like, hey man.

01:27:04.000 What is the Kings of Leon?

01:27:06.000 It's a band.

01:27:07.000 They haven't done shit in a while though.

01:27:08.000 Things are rough in Nashville if that's the star there.

01:27:12.000 That's it.

01:27:13.000 That's all it's there.

01:27:14.000 That's it.

01:27:14.000 No Big Brown in the audience.

01:27:16.000 Smiling.

01:27:17.000 No one's invited Big Brown to fight.

01:27:20.000 Big Brown's on the outs.

01:27:22.000 Their latest album has a really good song called Wait For Me.

01:27:26.000 Most of the album, not that really into.

01:27:28.000 Not my cup of tea, but wait for me.

01:27:29.000 I'm worried if I show up to a UFC event, they're going to put me in the nosebleeds and be like, you've got to wear all this Reebok shit.

01:27:34.000 Well, lucky for you, you know somebody with tickets.

01:27:37.000 Yeah!

01:27:38.000 Over in St. Prue.

01:27:40.000 They're not gonna do that to you, man.

01:27:42.000 They wouldn't put you in the lowest place.

01:27:43.000 Listen, you're an ally and an asset for the UFC. You're a huge UFC fan.

01:27:47.000 Huge fan.

01:27:48.000 But someone like Fox, they're gonna have a problem with what you're doing because it's so unconventional.

01:27:52.000 And if you say something ridiculous, they're the ones who are gonna get blamed for it.

01:27:55.000 Who let these fucking guys get on the Fox network?

01:27:58.000 That's also why our numbers are so big, because I don't sugarcoat things.

01:28:02.000 And I realize I'm going to get in trouble.

01:28:04.000 This is why I told you, you guys shouldn't be on anybody's network.

01:28:06.000 I know, you've always said that.

01:28:07.000 But that's why I said to Fox, don't censor us.

01:28:09.000 And they're like, cool, keep doing your thing.

01:28:11.000 As soon as your numbers drop, we're going to...

01:28:13.000 But you shouldn't have a contract with anybody.

01:28:16.000 There's no need.

01:28:17.000 There's no need for anybody to have anything in writing that connects you and them to what you guys are doing.

01:28:23.000 What you guys are doing is you guys.

01:28:24.000 There's no need.

01:28:26.000 You're not gaining anything by being affiliated with someone.

01:28:29.000 In fact, you're losing money.

01:28:31.000 You're losing money, you're losing control, and you're losing your mind because you're having to have these conversations where they tell you not to talk about dick.

01:28:37.000 You shouldn't be connected to anybody.

01:28:39.000 It should be only you.

01:28:41.000 This is 2015. You don't need that anymore.

01:28:43.000 Another Ronda commercial.

01:28:45.000 Another one.

01:28:45.000 Unstoppable.

01:28:46.000 Dude, just beyond Bruce Lee.

01:28:48.000 Ridiculous.

01:28:49.000 Come on.

01:28:50.000 Ridiculous.

01:28:50.000 Bruce Lee never got this big.

01:28:51.000 Oh, real quick.

01:28:52.000 If he didn't die, Bruce Lee wouldn't be doing commercials.

01:28:54.000 She would fuck Bruce Lee up.

01:28:56.000 Joe Rogan.

01:28:57.000 How about that?

01:28:57.000 He sure would.

01:28:58.000 Joe Rogan, Eddie Bravo.

01:29:00.000 Brian said he could beat up Bruce Lee.

01:29:01.000 I believe I could beat him in a fight.

01:29:02.000 He's dead serious.

01:29:03.000 And I'm being serious.

01:29:04.000 Well, he weighed 135 pounds and you're at least 140. Hey man, I'm 170, bro!

01:29:09.000 A little respect, number one.

01:29:11.000 There's also the possibility that you were some sort of a Taekwondo fighter.

01:29:16.000 Yeah, man.

01:29:17.000 That's why I'm wearing a shirt, bro.

01:29:19.000 So, I don't know.

01:29:20.000 I don't like the way you just implied that maybe I wasn't by the way you said it because you took a sip of wine in a very...

01:29:25.000 I'm so glad there's at least one video of me knocking somebody out online.

01:29:28.000 I know.

01:29:28.000 Just one.

01:29:29.000 Thank you.

01:29:29.000 I'm like, something.

01:29:30.000 Somebody thought something.

01:29:31.000 Something.

01:29:32.000 Because otherwise I sound like you.

01:29:33.000 There weren't a lot.

01:29:35.000 Oh!

01:29:35.000 Hey!

01:29:36.000 Oh!

01:29:37.000 Brian always goes, no, my mom has them.

01:29:39.000 She'll send me.

01:29:40.000 I'm like, cool.

01:29:40.000 Tell her to say that.

01:29:41.000 Joe used to say that because I used to ask him.

01:29:42.000 I go, do you have any tapes?

01:29:44.000 I have nothing.

01:29:44.000 For the longest time, I was like, shit.

01:29:47.000 But I experienced his turning sidekick, like, first-hand.

01:29:52.000 We'd be in his garage, and he'd be murdering the bag, and I didn't know if that was normal.

01:29:58.000 I'm like, is that normal?

01:29:59.000 Is that the normal?

01:30:01.000 So I didn't know.

01:30:02.000 So I went to...

01:30:03.000 So this is what happened.

01:30:04.000 I would go back to jiu-jitsu school, and there was one bag.

01:30:08.000 It was a jiu-jitsu...

01:30:08.000 John Jacques Machado Academy.

01:30:10.000 There's one kicking bag that's heavy on the bottom.

01:30:14.000 It's not even hanging from the ceiling.

01:30:16.000 And in jiu-jitsu, there's always karate black belts, taekwondo black belts.

01:30:22.000 In jiu-jitsu, it's very, very common that these black belts from the striking disciplines, the traditional martial arts, are taking jiu-jitsu.

01:30:28.000 So I didn't know if he was like...

01:30:31.000 If it was normal.

01:30:33.000 So I would have a guy kick the bag, a black belt, and I'd say, throw a turning sidekick.

01:30:38.000 Let me see what it feels like, or it looks like.

01:30:40.000 And then he'd throw it, then Joe would come and fucking throw it, and everybody would just stand back and say, what the fuck just happened?

01:30:47.000 At 48 years old, he's kicking.

01:30:48.000 No one else kicked the bag.

01:30:49.000 No one else kicked the bag.

01:30:50.000 At 48 years old.

01:30:51.000 Just me, trying to fucking work on it.

01:30:52.000 Just me.

01:30:53.000 I go, okay, so it's real.

01:30:54.000 And then I would get into that.

01:30:57.000 There was one time he went to go get his car.

01:31:00.000 We talked about this on one of the other Fight Company podcasts.

01:31:03.000 Yeah, we did.

01:31:03.000 Oh, okay, okay.

01:31:04.000 But we didn't talk about this.

01:31:05.000 We were sitting with Mark Delagrate.

01:31:07.000 You're great, dude.

01:31:07.000 That card's amazing, by the way.

01:31:09.000 I'm sorry to interrupt you guys.

01:31:10.000 That card's amazing.

01:31:11.000 Anthony Johnson, Jimmy Manoa.

01:31:13.000 Ooh!

01:31:14.000 Someone's going to sleep, son.

01:31:15.000 Paige!

01:31:16.000 There's your girl.

01:31:17.000 Versus Alex Chambers.

01:31:18.000 We were sitting with Mark De La Grotte, me and Joe and Mark De La Grotte, and De La Grotte was saying that he...

01:31:23.000 You may laugh, but I spent a long time kicking, and I spent a long time around really good guys who could kick really hard.

01:31:29.000 I've never seen anybody kick the way he does.

01:31:33.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:31:34.000 And he's 48 years old.

01:31:35.000 And Mark De La Grotte said, I can't hold pads because my forearms, I couldn't sign.

01:31:40.000 He was trying to sign checks.

01:31:41.000 He goes, my hands were shaking too much after holding fucking pads for you as you were kicking them.

01:31:47.000 I, when I saw that Instagram, personally, I've spent a long time around good kickers and trying to kick really well myself.

01:31:55.000 I've never seen anybody kick like that.

01:31:56.000 I've never seen that.

01:31:56.000 These dudes who kick harder than me.

01:31:58.000 You should watch videos of Melvin Manhoff kicking them.

01:32:00.000 Yeah, he kicks, but you're not that far behind, bro.

01:32:02.000 You're really not.

01:32:03.000 You're not that far behind.

01:32:04.000 All I know is anybody that holds pads for him, and I've been around, everyone says the same thing.

01:32:11.000 Holy goddamn shitty hits hard.

01:32:13.000 He's got weird power.

01:32:14.000 It's every strike.

01:32:15.000 It isn't just the turning sidekick.

01:32:17.000 It's every goddamn strike.

01:32:19.000 It's just leg stuff.

01:32:20.000 I just grew up doing it, man.

01:32:22.000 Taekwondo gives you this weird dexterity.

01:32:24.000 Your hips are open, too.

01:32:25.000 I did it for a long time.

01:32:26.000 I don't have that.

01:32:27.000 Well, I have a loose, like a snap to my hips.

01:32:30.000 I don't tighten them up.

01:32:32.000 It's all loosened to the end.

01:32:33.000 And then in the end, you're digging in.

01:32:36.000 We got the pickles out, Doug?

01:32:37.000 We got the pickles out, Doug?

01:32:39.000 I fucking love me some pickles, man.

01:32:41.000 There was one podcast where we just went balls deep in these pickles.

01:32:44.000 That's those Grillo's pickles, though.

01:32:46.000 These are like regular fucking store-bought pickles.

01:32:48.000 Those things are really good, though.

01:32:50.000 They're okay, but Grillo's are the shit.

01:32:52.000 They're okay.

01:32:52.000 Grillos are the shit.

01:32:54.000 I think if more guys did yoga, I think yoga would help your kicking a lot.

01:32:58.000 I love me some yoga, man.

01:32:59.000 Yoga is the shit, dude.

01:33:00.000 I agree.

01:33:00.000 And I think stretching and flexibility.

01:33:03.000 Eddie Bravo's guard is one of the most preposterous guards you can get caught in.

01:33:08.000 His leg dexterity is ridiculous.

01:33:10.000 It's so unusual.

01:33:11.000 And a lot of that is because of his flexibility.

01:33:13.000 His flexibility is crazy.

01:33:15.000 It's not that crazy.

01:33:16.000 It's crazy.

01:33:21.000 You're way more flexible in certain ways than me, and I'm very flexible.

01:33:25.000 It's an illusion.

01:33:26.000 No, it's not.

01:33:26.000 I'd love to roll with you sometime, Eddie.

01:33:28.000 But listen, but I see people trying to emulate what he does, but they don't have the flexibility.

01:33:33.000 They don't have the dexterity.

01:33:35.000 They don't have flexibility.

01:33:36.000 And it makes such a giant difference.

01:33:38.000 It's those numbers that you get in.

01:33:40.000 It's just those numbers and the idea of what you're trying to do.

01:33:42.000 And then there's all the physical shit.

01:33:44.000 Some people are just born with different bones.

01:33:47.000 Some people are born like Hodger Gracie.

01:33:50.000 These long-ass fucking arms.

01:33:52.000 They can just cinch Darces in from anywhere.

01:33:54.000 Long triangles that can get both your fucking arms trapped in, like in a dead orchard.

01:33:58.000 You can do things with your body if you have these long bodies that you can't do.

01:34:03.000 But then there's these Paul Harris bodies.

01:34:05.000 Like, you've got this goddamn gorilla.

01:34:06.000 I stand next to that guy, I feel like I'm you.

01:34:09.000 That's what it's like.

01:34:10.000 Really?

01:34:11.000 I stand next to him?

01:34:13.000 That was dark.

01:34:15.000 Brian is a slender guy.

01:34:18.000 I have a beautiful expressive body.

01:34:19.000 I always feel like a claw.

01:34:21.000 I always feel like an extra wide claw.

01:34:23.000 I see a big ass fucking arm over there.

01:34:25.000 That's what I see.

01:34:26.000 Are you looking at that arm?

01:34:28.000 No, seriously.

01:34:30.000 I'm Brian?

01:34:30.000 You do lift, right?

01:34:31.000 Yeah, I lifted.

01:34:32.000 Here's the body of Kermit the Frog.

01:34:34.000 Hey, bro.

01:34:35.000 Hey, bro.

01:34:36.000 What, man?

01:34:36.000 Bro, what are you talking about?

01:34:38.000 Kermit has skinny legs and I have trouble with jeans, bro.

01:34:41.000 You're feeling like Kermit the Frog.

01:34:43.000 Oh, come on.

01:34:44.000 Sir.

01:34:44.000 Look at that arm.

01:34:45.000 Sir.

01:34:46.000 Hey, flex for it.

01:34:46.000 Sir.

01:34:47.000 Show him the choice.

01:34:48.000 Guys, I'm relaxed.

01:34:48.000 Look at that.

01:34:49.000 I'm relaxed as shit right now.

01:34:51.000 I'm relaxed as shit.

01:34:51.000 Dude, did you just say Kermit the Frog?

01:34:53.000 My legs are way bigger than that.

01:34:55.000 God, that's so funny.

01:34:55.000 I got big, I got...

01:34:57.000 Kermit the Frog is so funny!

01:34:59.000 Imagine Kermit the Frog!

01:35:02.000 His arms are one size all the way down!

01:35:06.000 Kermit the Frog!

01:35:08.000 Kermit the Frog!

01:35:09.000 Kermit the Frog!

01:35:10.000 Kermit the Frog!

01:35:11.000 Kermit the Frog!

01:35:12.000 Kermit the Frog!

01:35:13.000 Kermit the Frog!

01:35:14.000 Kermit the Frog!

01:35:15.000 Kermit the Frog!

01:35:18.000 Kermit the Frog!

01:35:20.000 Kermit's is the farthest I go.

01:35:21.000 I'm picturing Kermit's arms with no movement at all.

01:35:26.000 Nothing.

01:35:27.000 Just like pipes.

01:35:28.000 Just straight pipe cleaners.

01:35:29.000 Oh, it's so silly.

01:35:31.000 Eddie, man, you and I. That's why it's so funny.

01:35:32.000 I don't know.

01:35:34.000 Kermit the Frog is like the perfect reference.

01:35:37.000 That is like, seriously, if you're going to make fun of a dude's arms, Kermit the Frog's arms, Kermit the Frog's arms, Kermit the Frog.

01:35:45.000 That's the funniest shit of all time.

01:35:48.000 Kermit.

01:35:51.000 I'm pissed now.

01:35:54.000 I think you have Uriah Faber arms.

01:35:56.000 Thank you, brother.

01:35:56.000 Thank you, man.

01:35:58.000 Eddie, the fucking Instagram post that you and I both posted, you posted a caption with it.

01:36:03.000 There's a dude who's sucking this guy's tongue.

01:36:05.000 I sent that to my brother.

01:36:08.000 Eddie Bravo had the best caption on his.

01:36:11.000 Eddie Bravo says, when you partying and Rodman has the last rock...

01:36:19.000 Is the dude sucking on Rodman's toe?

01:36:23.000 For cocaine?

01:36:24.000 The reason why it came up to me was because the guy has Kermit Defar's body.

01:36:28.000 We were talking about how this guy's like so meek.

01:36:31.000 He's probably like only like three feet tall and he's just like used to being humiliated.

01:36:35.000 So he likes big women.

01:36:37.000 He's like suck their toes.

01:36:38.000 He's a gimp.

01:36:44.000 That foot is like this, and this dude is just deep-throating these toes.

01:36:49.000 Have you not seen it?

01:36:50.000 I sent it to you.

01:36:51.000 I found a disturbing...

01:36:52.000 I snap-shot Joe's and sent it to everyone.

01:36:54.000 Dude, that's probably how Dennis Rodman's feet actually look.

01:36:59.000 Eddie Bravo on Instagram is not you.

01:37:02.000 Who's Eddie Bravo on Instagram?

01:37:03.000 He's at the real Eddie Bravo.

01:37:04.000 It's a girl.

01:37:05.000 I gotta follow you.

01:37:06.000 Someone named Lindsey Sturge?

01:37:08.000 Who the hell's that?

01:37:09.000 I don't know.

01:37:10.000 On Instagram?

01:37:11.000 I don't know.

01:37:11.000 There's someone named Lindsey on Sturge.

01:37:13.000 That had me crying, man.

01:37:14.000 Who's must be an Eddie Bravo fan.

01:37:16.000 She took my shit.

01:37:17.000 That's weird.

01:37:18.000 So I had to do that douchey thing by saying the real Eddie Bravo.

01:37:22.000 As I feel really douchey.

01:37:23.000 Nah, don't.

01:37:24.000 Someone took your shit.

01:37:26.000 Originally, I just thought that's what you're supposed to do.

01:37:28.000 Look at this.

01:37:31.000 This is just incredible.

01:37:33.000 It's a real fucking foot.

01:37:34.000 But the caption, dude.

01:37:37.000 Bro, look at that second toe!

01:37:41.000 Somebody told me once that if a girl has a second toe that's bigger than the big toe, that she's undoubtedly a freak.

01:37:52.000 No matter what she tells you, she can tell you, she goes to church, the girl's a freak.

01:37:55.000 Really?

01:37:56.000 That's not a girl, though.

01:37:57.000 That's not a girl's foot.

01:37:58.000 That's not a girl's foot.

01:37:59.000 You're right.

01:38:00.000 It might be a girl's foot.

01:38:01.000 I don't think so.

01:38:02.000 I think it's anatomically impossible.

01:38:05.000 No, the girl played Gabriella Reese.

01:38:07.000 Yeah, there's some big girls, man.

01:38:09.000 Okay, here we go.

01:38:10.000 Rebecca Lobos.

01:38:11.000 Derek Brunson, Sam Alvey.

01:38:12.000 This is a good goddamn fight right here.

01:38:13.000 Story about Sam Alvey.

01:38:15.000 On the Ultimate Fighter season 14, I was a guest coach on there, and he drove me fucking nuts.

01:38:21.000 I didn't think he was going to make shit because he quit nonstop all the time.

01:38:24.000 In practice?

01:38:25.000 Yeah.

01:38:26.000 How did he quit?

01:38:27.000 Like when he's sparring?

01:38:28.000 Things would be going rough, and he'd just stop, and then be like, oh, I'm hurt, and would sit out all the time.

01:38:32.000 He looks nervous, man.

01:38:33.000 Oh, shit.

01:38:34.000 He is a tough fight.

01:38:36.000 Brunson has really good kicks, man.

01:38:38.000 He caught Yoel Romero with a switch kick to the head.

01:38:41.000 That's when I realized what a freak Yoel Romero is.

01:38:44.000 Because Yoel Romero took it right on the neck and just stunned him for a second and then just went right back to his normal natural movements.

01:38:51.000 Does Yoel have a fight coming up?

01:38:52.000 Did he sign anything?

01:38:53.000 I do not know.

01:38:53.000 That's a good question.

01:38:55.000 I think he's Wyman's biggest threat in many ways.

01:38:58.000 Yoel?

01:38:59.000 Yeah.

01:38:59.000 No, I think Rockhold is.

01:39:00.000 I think it's the greatest fight in middleweight history.

01:39:02.000 You're out of your mind.

01:39:03.000 Well, he's not out of his mind, for sure.

01:39:05.000 It's a good fight.

01:39:06.000 What's better?

01:39:07.000 No, no, Brian, no, you're wrong.

01:39:08.000 They're both in their prime.

01:39:10.000 They're both fucking monsters.

01:39:11.000 In their prime.

01:39:12.000 You gotta tell me how you watch him go through Lyoto Machida like fucking hot butter, and you don't want to see Rockhold fight against Wyvern.

01:39:21.000 I actually thought Lyoto Machida won that last round, or at least was on his way to.

01:39:26.000 You got the wrong fight.

01:39:27.000 You got the wrong fight.

01:39:27.000 What the fuck are you talking about?

01:39:28.000 Rockhold destroyed Lyoto Machida in two rounds.

01:39:30.000 I was talking about Machida and Wyvern.

01:39:31.000 I'm sorry.

01:39:32.000 Either way, he lost.

01:39:33.000 Either way, he lost.

01:39:34.000 Well, Machida and Weidman had some great exchanges, and there was one exchange, particularly when Machida poured it on, but Weidman is really fucking durable.

01:39:43.000 His legs never went.

01:39:44.000 He got tagged with some shots, but it was never like, oh my god, he's going!

01:39:48.000 He's going out!

01:39:48.000 It wasn't like that.

01:39:49.000 He's a beast.

01:39:50.000 What I'm trying to say is, I... I think that Yoel Romero is a bigger threat to Wyman.

01:39:55.000 I disagree.

01:39:56.000 His cardio is going to be an issue.

01:39:58.000 Well, his cardio is definitely going to be an issue, but I don't think he's a bigger threat.

01:40:01.000 I think he's a huge threat.

01:40:02.000 I think they're both huge threats.

01:40:04.000 He's a different threat.

01:40:04.000 Whoa, look at Derrick Brunson going off!

01:40:07.000 He's a different threat.

01:40:08.000 This guy's tough, man.

01:40:09.000 He's just swinging for the fences.

01:40:10.000 All these are 100% on him.

01:40:12.000 I'll be better to close his mouth, though.

01:40:13.000 But see, this is one where you should relax.

01:40:15.000 Relax.

01:40:17.000 But he can move better than this if he was relaxed.

01:40:20.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:40:21.000 If he was relaxed here and not just fucking teeing off with 100%, he's wasting energy.

01:40:26.000 I agree.

01:40:27.000 If he was more efficient, he'd be landing more shots.

01:40:29.000 He's ferocious.

01:40:30.000 This is what I want to see though.

01:40:31.000 I want to see guys like this.

01:40:33.000 Yeah, but for him as a fighter, he could do better.

01:40:36.000 He stopped it.

01:40:36.000 Stopped it.

01:40:37.000 That was smart.

01:40:37.000 That was good.

01:40:38.000 That's a good stoppage.

01:40:39.000 I love that shit.

01:40:40.000 I'm a huge fan.

01:40:41.000 For him as a fighter though, I am too.

01:40:42.000 But if he just took it down a notch with the wildness and was more accurate.

01:40:46.000 More control.

01:40:47.000 Compose, mark control.

01:40:47.000 That's experience.

01:40:48.000 Yeah, it is experience.

01:40:50.000 You've all been in that situation, especially if you're angry at somebody and you find yourself chasing them.

01:40:54.000 Emotion.

01:40:54.000 You're being emotional and you're rushing for the fight.

01:40:55.000 We have enough smart guys like that.

01:40:58.000 Every now and then, can I get a guy that's going to go out there?

01:41:01.000 More than not, you're getting that, though, Eddie.

01:41:03.000 More than not, you're getting that until you get to the higher levels.

01:41:05.000 I want to see this.

01:41:06.000 I want to see him develop to the highest skill level possible.

01:41:08.000 I think Derek Brunson's a bad motherfucker.

01:41:09.000 That's hurting the guy, being controlled, and then timing it for the exact time.

01:41:13.000 We can't have one motherfucker that goes out there and throws bombs on top.

01:41:17.000 We can, but we're not looking for unique individuals that don't reach their potential.

01:41:21.000 We're looking for everybody to be as good as they can be.

01:41:23.000 Fight like this, you're going to be 50-50.

01:41:26.000 Fight like this, you're going to go 5-10 in the UFC. Here's a perfect example.

01:41:30.000 Ioannia Jacek, when she had Jessica Panay hurt in the same type of situation, she didn't do this, okay?

01:41:36.000 Everything she did looked crisp and controlled.

01:41:39.000 Calculated.

01:41:39.000 It was way more devastating.

01:41:40.000 I love fighters like that.

01:41:41.000 It was more devastating.

01:41:43.000 But they can't all be like that.

01:41:44.000 Can we have crazy motherfuckers like this every now and then?

01:41:46.000 It's not that.

01:41:46.000 He's going to get to a higher level where this doesn't work.

01:41:49.000 He just needs to get better.

01:41:50.000 That's all it is.

01:41:50.000 He's really good.

01:41:51.000 Take that.

01:41:52.000 Take him away from me.

01:41:54.000 But it's not even a matter of the fact that he can't perform the punches or kicks correctly, because obviously he can.

01:42:00.000 It's just a matter of composure while executing.

01:42:03.000 Like, I guarantee if you got Derek Brunson and you were like, if Anthony Hardonk was working pads with him and you got to see him throw some combinations, he would look smooth as butter.

01:42:11.000 Instead of wild like that.

01:42:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:42:12.000 He's just fighting emotionally there.

01:42:14.000 I've been there, man.

01:42:15.000 And he broke the dude.

01:42:16.000 He did it.

01:42:16.000 I mean, he really did do it.

01:42:17.000 He broke him, and he beat him down.

01:42:18.000 But you're going to get to a certain level, and it happened with me.

01:42:20.000 When I fought Ben Rothwell, I threw a spinning back elbow, rocked him, and I rushed in just like he was doing.

01:42:27.000 And Rothwell went, oh, cool story.

01:42:28.000 He's hurt?

01:42:29.000 He threw a left hook.

01:42:31.000 Fight's over.

01:42:32.000 But if I would have been more controlled, smart, Calculated.

01:42:36.000 Kind of like Orlovsky did actually with Travis Brown.

01:42:40.000 Yeah, he took that fight smart.

01:42:41.000 Yeah, he kind of kept waiting.

01:42:43.000 He got caught.

01:42:43.000 He got caught bad.

01:42:44.000 Got caught hard.

01:42:45.000 He got hurt.

01:42:46.000 Orlovsky's also, you know, he's a former world champ.

01:42:48.000 He has a lot of experience.

01:42:49.000 A lot of guys, when you get rocked like that, especially, you know, you want to get in and get, you're like, oh, he's hurt.

01:42:54.000 I'm going to jump on him.

01:42:55.000 That's one of the guys most dangerous.

01:42:57.000 Look at this.

01:42:57.000 Carl's Jr. is selling a beef burger with no steroids.

01:43:01.000 That's what it said.

01:43:02.000 It said no steroids.

01:43:02.000 You know Carl's Jr. signed Ronda Rousey.

01:43:05.000 Damn.

01:43:06.000 Who didn't?

01:43:07.000 I don't know.

01:43:08.000 Right?

01:43:09.000 Ronda Rousey is going to be so goddamn rich when she retires.

01:43:12.000 It's going to be preposterous.

01:43:14.000 She's already pretty rich.

01:43:15.000 She's already pretty rich.

01:43:17.000 But the amount of rich she's going to be, she's going to be like Oprah rich.

01:43:20.000 She's not a materialistic person at all.

01:43:22.000 What if you guys got back together again?

01:43:25.000 Might be a good move for you right now.

01:43:27.000 You might start texting.

01:43:30.000 Believe me, believe me.

01:43:33.000 I did her a favor, man.

01:43:36.000 I'm not the guy for the job.

01:43:37.000 I'm just not, man.

01:43:39.000 Not man enough.

01:43:40.000 I'm too much woman there.

01:43:41.000 I'm too much.

01:43:42.000 I'm too much.

01:43:43.000 You're too man?

01:43:44.000 Yeah, she needs a guy who's going to take a back seat.

01:43:46.000 That's not me.

01:43:47.000 Really?

01:43:47.000 She also needs a guy who's going to say, yes, ma'am.

01:43:50.000 Yes, ma'am.

01:43:50.000 Really?

01:43:51.000 Well, she's surrounded by, you know, she's so successful, she's surrounded by people that warsper and go, yes, yes, that's a great idea.

01:43:57.000 And when I went, I don't think that's a good idea.

01:44:00.000 Now I'm a hater.

01:44:01.000 No, no, no.

01:44:01.000 I have no financial gain from you.

01:44:04.000 I don't need anything from you.

01:44:06.000 I've earned everything myself.

01:44:07.000 I don't think we should have this conversation out of respect for her.

01:44:10.000 My bad.

01:44:11.000 She can't defend herself.

01:44:12.000 You got me on it, Eddie.

01:44:13.000 I apologize.

01:44:15.000 Eddie, you stirred the top.

01:44:17.000 You said get back.

01:44:18.000 I apologize.

01:44:19.000 All respect to Rhonda.

01:44:20.000 I really do respect her a lot.

01:44:22.000 Me too, man.

01:44:23.000 You know what?

01:44:23.000 We've been talking nothing but good shit about her this whole time.

01:44:26.000 All of us.

01:44:27.000 I think that...

01:44:28.000 I fucked up.

01:44:29.000 I'm sorry.

01:44:29.000 We've talked about this before.

01:44:30.000 I'm a fucking idiot.

01:44:31.000 I think that...

01:44:31.000 You kind of have to be out of your mind to be as good as she is.

01:44:34.000 You have to be.

01:44:35.000 And I think that she'll probably admit it as quickly as anybody.

01:44:38.000 And I think that in that position that she's in, when you are that powerful and that strong and such a shining star...

01:44:48.000 Man, finding a guy to match that with you, finding a guy that you mesh with perfectly, has got to be crazy difficult.

01:44:55.000 Well, that's the struggle.

01:44:56.000 That's the balance, right?

01:44:57.000 People who are that great, it's going to be tough in your personal life, man.

01:45:00.000 What do I always say to you, Joe?

01:45:01.000 I wish I was more batshit crazy.

01:45:03.000 I'd be a way better fighter.

01:45:04.000 Yeah, we've said that.

01:45:05.000 If I wasn't so fucking god...

01:45:06.000 And nice.

01:45:06.000 If I wasn't so nice and friendly and creative, I'd be a way better fighter, man.

01:45:10.000 And the opposite, like Bobby Lee.

01:45:12.000 You know?

01:45:13.000 It's very hard for him to find a woman that can control him and dominate him correctly.

01:45:20.000 Who?

01:45:21.000 Bobby Lee.

01:45:21.000 Because Bobby Lee is the opposite.

01:45:23.000 Bobby Lee is this really small, feeble guy who's afraid of everything.

01:45:29.000 So he's got to find the right woman for that situation.

01:45:32.000 Him and Ronda might be a match.

01:45:33.000 For most women, it doesn't jam up.

01:45:35.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:45:35.000 Yeah, most women want to be taking care of, like, throw me against the wall.

01:45:39.000 Bobby Lee's like, throw me against the wall, motherfucker.

01:45:42.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:45:43.000 But he's funny.

01:45:45.000 Funny helps out, man.

01:45:47.000 It's a weird dynamic, man.

01:45:48.000 People gotta find the right person for the job.

01:45:50.000 They really do.

01:45:51.000 That's really what's up.

01:45:53.000 And the funny shit is, Jay Leno and I were having this conversation about it.

01:45:57.000 Name drop.

01:45:57.000 Watch it.

01:45:59.000 We were talking about this guy that showed up at his studio once and just started asking questions about some actress and said, do you think I could meet her?

01:46:07.000 Because if I met her, I'm pretty sure that she would know that I'm the one.

01:46:11.000 And he's like, Jesus Christ.

01:46:13.000 Like, could you imagine being a famous woman and have a bunch of dummies out there that think that if they got to you, that they could be the one, and then they just go, I just gotta meet her.

01:46:24.000 Bro, think about Ronda.

01:46:25.000 She has all these keyboard warriors jacking off to her all the time.

01:46:30.000 God, if I could just get in front of her, man, I'm the guy for the job.

01:46:33.000 Just smell her ass.

01:46:34.000 Enjoy that.

01:46:35.000 If I could just drink her bath water, man, I would fucking, if I could just suck her big toe.

01:46:39.000 Oh shit, Peniel Darius, Michael Johnson.

01:46:41.000 Who wants to bet on this fight?

01:46:43.000 You want to bet on this?

01:46:44.000 You know what?

01:46:45.000 I like both these guys.

01:46:46.000 I would never bet against any one of them.

01:46:47.000 I would never ask you to bet.

01:46:48.000 I'm excited about this fight, but if you pick one, I'll pick the other.

01:46:52.000 I got DelaRouche.

01:46:53.000 Okay.

01:46:53.000 And he's an underdog.

01:46:54.000 DelaRouche.

01:46:55.000 It's not DelaRouche.

01:46:56.000 Yeah, man.

01:46:56.000 DelaRouche.

01:46:57.000 I've had some wine!

01:46:58.000 I've had a little bit of wine!

01:46:59.000 I've been known to fuck up names from time to time.

01:47:03.000 I most certainly don't want to bet against Benil DelaRouche because I'm a big fan.

01:47:07.000 No, you and I aren't betting.

01:47:07.000 We're just for the fun of things.

01:47:09.000 In the favor of just sport and fun.

01:47:11.000 Or dinner.

01:47:12.000 You want to bet dinner?

01:47:12.000 Okay, that's dinner.

01:47:13.000 Thanks, brother.

01:47:14.000 I'm taking the underdog.

01:47:15.000 It's whatever, though.

01:47:16.000 Is he an underdog?

01:47:16.000 Yeah.

01:47:18.000 I think he's a very skilled fighter.

01:47:19.000 I like the way he fights, and I also like what Rafael Cordero's done, man.

01:47:22.000 Me too.

01:47:23.000 I was cornering Brian, T-City, the kid who's tearing up in the UFC right now.

01:47:27.000 I was cornering him on a low-level show in LA, and Dariush was in the back warming up because he was the main event, and I was watching him hit mitts, and I was like, holy...

01:47:36.000 Fuck!

01:47:36.000 Really?

01:47:37.000 Who is that guy?

01:47:38.000 And T City was like, oh, that guy's the next big thing.

01:47:41.000 So I went and talked to him.

01:47:42.000 I saw his fight, and I'm like, dude, what's your deal?

01:47:44.000 He's like, man, I'm just trying to get better, blah, blah, blah.

01:47:47.000 I'm like, oh, what's your background?

01:47:48.000 And he starts telling me, like, jiu-jitsu's my passion.

01:47:50.000 He's this world-class jiu-jitsu guy.

01:47:52.000 But I saw him just wreck some dude on the feet.

01:47:54.000 I was like, you're good at jiu-jitsu?

01:47:56.000 He goes, yeah, man, it's my thing.

01:47:57.000 I was like, holy fuck.

01:47:58.000 He's very good at jiu-jitsu.

01:47:59.000 You see his fight with Jim Miller?

01:48:01.000 Phenomenal.

01:48:01.000 He dominated Jim Miller on the ground.

01:48:02.000 Dominates him on the ground, man.

01:48:06.000 Dominates him.

01:48:08.000 Crazy shit, man.

01:48:10.000 Crazy, man.

01:48:11.000 It's crazy.

01:48:12.000 Dominate Jim Miller on the ground.

01:48:13.000 You're fucking pretty good.

01:48:16.000 Look at that.

01:48:19.000 Yeah, Jim Miller's tough as fuck, man.

01:48:22.000 They don't get any tougher.

01:48:23.000 And he's a black belt in jiu-jitsu.

01:48:24.000 He submitted that Brazilian world champ.

01:48:27.000 There by armbar.

01:48:28.000 Nasty.

01:48:29.000 Jim Miller's one of the best.

01:48:30.000 Yeah, Fabricio Camois.

01:48:32.000 Yes.

01:48:32.000 Yeah, he's elite.

01:48:34.000 Very elite on the ground.

01:48:35.000 He also submitted Charles Oliveira.

01:48:37.000 He's elite.

01:48:39.000 He's one of those guys that I always watch fight, and I always appreciate his fights.

01:48:42.000 He's fantastic, but I'm always like, man, how many more of these does this guy have in him?

01:48:46.000 Bummer, right?

01:48:47.000 Yeah, because that style is just so taxing.

01:48:49.000 Miller's just fucking super aggressive.

01:48:52.000 Speaking of that style, we had a buddy, I won't mention names, fighting the UFC, and his style was kind of like that Leonard Garcia style.

01:48:58.000 And I talked to him on the phone and could not understand him.

01:49:01.000 Damn it.

01:49:02.000 Literally could not understand him.

01:49:03.000 And I go, what are you doing these days, man?

01:49:06.000 I'm just teaching a little kickboxing and I'm working at this school.

01:49:11.000 Dude, did you know Shane Mosley's fighting soon?

01:49:13.000 What?

01:49:14.000 Shane Mosley is fighting Ricardo Mayorga.

01:49:16.000 That's such a bummer.

01:49:17.000 That's such a bummer.

01:49:18.000 Have you ever met Mosley?

01:49:19.000 No, but I've seen him talk.

01:49:21.000 Punch drunk, son.

01:49:22.000 Not just punch drunk, but how about the fact that his body seems to have deteriorated.

01:49:26.000 Like he shrank.

01:49:27.000 Like his muscle definition was gone.

01:49:29.000 That bums me out, man.

01:49:30.000 He was on one of those shows.

01:49:32.000 Is that white wine?

01:49:33.000 Get that fucking shit away from me.

01:49:34.000 What's up with that white shit?

01:49:35.000 Where's the red, bro?

01:49:36.000 I'm a man, bro.

01:49:37.000 I'm a drink white wine.

01:49:38.000 I mean, if it's all we have.

01:49:39.000 Hey, what's up with that red right there?

01:49:40.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:49:41.000 Don't put that angel piss in here.

01:49:46.000 Angel Piss!

01:49:48.000 Angel Piss!

01:49:49.000 He calls it Angel Piss!

01:49:53.000 That's hilarious.

01:49:55.000 That's hilarious.

01:49:56.000 Some of that red, dawg.

01:49:57.000 Alright, man.

01:49:58.000 Hold on, man.

01:50:00.000 I'm a fan of this kid, man.

01:50:03.000 Smart fucking dude, too, man.

01:50:05.000 Benil Darius is a smart dude.

01:50:07.000 Very, very calculated fighter.

01:50:08.000 Wicked on the ground, man.

01:50:10.000 Look at his ground game.

01:50:11.000 Nasty fucking submissions.

01:50:13.000 Michael Johnson on the road.

01:50:14.000 Michael Johnson's been sparring on a regular basis with Nicky Holtzkin.

01:50:19.000 Nicky Holtzkin's been training with the Black Zillions.

01:50:21.000 There's some great videos of them going to war.

01:50:23.000 They've been sparring exclusively down there.

01:50:25.000 Jesus Christ, I didn't know that.

01:50:26.000 Nicky Holtzkin's also been working out with his Dutch kickboxing coach, the kickboxing coach for Holtzkin.

01:50:31.000 They're showing him combinations that they use.

01:50:33.000 That's trouble, because he's good enough athlete to pick it up like this.

01:50:35.000 He's picking it up.

01:50:37.000 His sparring sessions have been fucking legendary down there with Holsken.

01:50:40.000 Hopefully not too tough.

01:50:41.000 There's some videos of it.

01:50:41.000 Well, no.

01:50:42.000 There's some videos of him getting...

01:50:43.000 There's one of them.

01:50:43.000 He can get rocked.

01:50:44.000 Holsken caught him with a left hook.

01:50:46.000 Someone made that.

01:50:48.000 That was fuckers.

01:50:50.000 That was fuckers.

01:50:51.000 Who is that?

01:50:53.000 That's good.

01:50:53.000 Already.

01:50:54.000 That's nice.

01:50:54.000 That might be a good t-shirt.

01:50:58.000 That's a great idea.

01:50:59.000 The fighter and the kid, you with the girl with the frog fucking flippers.

01:51:03.000 Me as Miss Piggy?

01:51:04.000 I always thought that Dutch kickboxing, like the Anthony Hardong style, I always thought that was the Dutch's version of Muay Thai.

01:51:11.000 But hanging out with Anthony, he's giving me the history.

01:51:15.000 And it really has nothing to do with Muay Thai.

01:51:17.000 It's more karate-based.

01:51:18.000 It's karate-based.

01:51:19.000 Yeah, it's karate-based, but they did incorporate some of the Thai techniques, and they definitely did incorporate.

01:51:26.000 But they use, it's more like a Shotokan, or not Shotokan, like Gojo-Ru.

01:51:32.000 Like one of those hard styles.

01:51:33.000 You said the main difference is the footwork.

01:51:35.000 In Muay Thai, you kind of just plod forward, and there's no footwork.

01:51:39.000 And what they do is like Machida.

01:51:42.000 There's a lot of footwork.

01:51:43.000 In and out and you just don't stand there and take shots.

01:51:46.000 Yeah, they also had this fucking hard style, man.

01:51:49.000 It's a hard style.

01:51:50.000 There's the Holland style of kickboxing.

01:51:52.000 They had some innovations of their own, too.

01:51:56.000 Like, you know, that combination that everybody calls the dutchy, that left hook to the body and the right leg kick behind it.

01:52:01.000 That's something that's like really classic to Muay Thai, but the Dutch really took it to another level.

01:52:08.000 They throw, like, boxing-style combinations that the Thai guys didn't.

01:52:14.000 And then when Ramon Deckers went over there and fought the Thais...

01:52:18.000 Ooh, he's a beast.

01:52:19.000 Oh, my God, he's fun to watch.

01:52:21.000 He's a monster.

01:52:21.000 And he fought the Thais at their weight.

01:52:23.000 It wasn't, like, Kamen or a lot of these other guys who were, like, bigger.

01:52:27.000 Guys from Holland are huge.

01:52:28.000 You know, the average height of a guy in Holland is six feet tall.

01:52:31.000 And a woman is 5'10".

01:52:33.000 Is that where overings are?

01:52:35.000 You know what Anthony also said?

01:52:38.000 You know what Anthony said?

01:52:39.000 He said that a low-level boxer can beat a low-level Dutch kickboxer, but an elite Dutch kickboxer will always beat an elite boxer.

01:52:50.000 That's interesting.

01:52:51.000 Because they will never withstand the leg kicks.

01:52:53.000 Says the Dutch kickboxer.

01:52:54.000 Exactly.

01:52:54.000 No, but he's right.

01:52:55.000 No, he's right.

01:52:55.000 They can never...

01:52:57.000 They don't even know how to counter it.

01:52:58.000 But especially with boxing gloves on.

01:53:01.000 Especially with boxing gloves on.

01:53:02.000 No, I agree.

01:53:03.000 The whole game gets way trickier when you have little gloves.

01:53:05.000 That's why you see Joe Schilling got knocked down in glory.

01:53:08.000 The stance is different.

01:53:08.000 Everything's different, man.

01:53:09.000 Those gloves sneak through.

01:53:10.000 For sure.

01:53:11.000 And you're worried about takedowns.

01:53:13.000 He was talking about the difference between boxing and the Dutch style kickboxing.

01:53:17.000 He really was talking about boxing like it was...

01:53:21.000 I mean, primitive.

01:53:22.000 Like, there's so many things that you do wrong in boxing that when the legs are involved, you get smashed.

01:53:26.000 It's a different game.

01:53:27.000 I think I said Joe Schilling got knocked out in glory.

01:53:28.000 I meant in Bellator.

01:53:30.000 But a great kickboxer fighting a guy who's a karate guy.

01:53:33.000 Yeah.

01:53:34.000 He was a fucking tough karate guy, though.

01:53:36.000 Very tough.

01:53:36.000 Dude, I can't get enough of boxing right now.

01:53:38.000 I watch every fucking boxing match.

01:53:40.000 Dude, did you see Kovalev's last fight?

01:53:43.000 Yes!

01:53:43.000 God damn, he's good.

01:53:45.000 Lord, he's good.

01:53:45.000 God damn, he's good.

01:53:46.000 He's a beast, man.

01:53:47.000 He hits so hard.

01:53:48.000 He's a monster, dude.

01:53:48.000 Kovalev hits so fucking hard.

01:53:50.000 How do you have the time, Brandon?

01:53:51.000 He's such an athlete.

01:53:52.000 You're single.

01:53:53.000 No, I have a girlfriend.

01:53:54.000 They're usually on Saturday nights, though.

01:53:56.000 I watch all fights.

01:53:57.000 I watch all those bitches.

01:53:57.000 I watch them when I DVR. I don't even have time for the fucking UFC, and you're such a UFC expert.

01:54:01.000 You know every goddamn fight.

01:54:03.000 I record them, man.

01:54:04.000 Holy shit.

01:54:05.000 You must watch fights twice.

01:54:07.000 Every fight.

01:54:07.000 It just depends.

01:54:08.000 Most fights you watch.

01:54:10.000 Important ones you watch twice.

01:54:11.000 Important ones, yeah.

01:54:11.000 So Kovalev is such a smooth boxer.

01:54:15.000 I want to see him fight Andre Warden.

01:54:17.000 It's a phenomenal fight.

01:54:18.000 Andre Ward needs to do something.

01:54:20.000 I mean, I know.

01:54:21.000 Because he's recovering from shoulder surgery.

01:54:22.000 He is, but he just fought.

01:54:24.000 Yeah, he fought for the first time.

01:54:25.000 They brought him up super slowly.

01:54:28.000 Look at you guys.

01:54:29.000 Boxing experts.

01:54:30.000 I don't know shit.

01:54:31.000 I feel like a chick right now.

01:54:32.000 But Andre Ward, pound for pound, I think he's the best fighter right now.

01:54:35.000 He's very smart.

01:54:35.000 He's so good, man.

01:54:36.000 How would he do with Kovalev?

01:54:38.000 That'd be a really interesting fight.

01:54:38.000 Is he white?

01:54:39.000 Such a good fight.

01:54:40.000 He's black.

01:54:41.000 But he's a gold medal winner.

01:54:42.000 His dad was white.

01:54:43.000 His mother was black.

01:54:44.000 Really?

01:54:45.000 Yes.

01:54:45.000 He's a half.

01:54:46.000 Andre Ward, yeah.

01:54:46.000 He's so good, man.

01:54:49.000 Yeah.

01:54:49.000 And now boxing's on ESPN, NBC. It's so dope, man.

01:54:54.000 Really?

01:54:55.000 Yes.

01:54:56.000 Wow.

01:54:56.000 I'd really like to see that fight.

01:54:58.000 That'd be a ridiculous fight.

01:54:59.000 There's a lot of really good fights in boxing right now.

01:55:02.000 You know, the middleweight division is heating up.

01:55:04.000 You've got Canelo Alvarez, Gennady Golovkin, and Alvarez is going to fight...

01:55:09.000 Cotto.

01:55:10.000 Miguel Cotto.

01:55:11.000 You've got Thurman.

01:55:12.000 Yeah.

01:55:14.000 You got Garcia?

01:55:15.000 A lot of good fights.

01:55:16.000 I feel like a girl right now.

01:55:18.000 Boxing's weird.

01:55:19.000 A lot of listeners are like, what the fuck?

01:55:21.000 I love boxing.

01:55:22.000 It's fun.

01:55:23.000 It's fun to watch.

01:55:24.000 Yeah, shit.

01:55:25.000 But kickboxing is more fun to me.

01:55:26.000 I'm a big fan of Lion Fight, man.

01:55:28.000 I love watching Lion Fight.

01:55:29.000 I love Lion Fight.

01:55:30.000 Where do you see that, Ty?

01:55:32.000 On AXS TV? AXS TV. Real Muay Thai, man.

01:55:34.000 Tiff Timebomb, man.

01:55:36.000 Tiff Timebomb.

01:55:36.000 Dude, she's a world champ.

01:55:38.000 If she gets into MMA, it's going to be trouble, man, with her stand-up.

01:55:41.000 Oh, yeah.

01:55:42.000 Her stand-up's nasty.

01:55:42.000 She's already kind of talked a little shit to Ioana.

01:55:45.000 Yeah, she has.

01:55:46.000 I'm a fan of Tiff Timebomb, too.

01:55:47.000 She said Ioana was basic.

01:55:48.000 She thought her stand-up was basic.

01:55:50.000 Tip Timebomb.

01:55:51.000 Is that what she said?

01:55:52.000 That's her name.

01:55:53.000 She's a cutie too, man.

01:55:54.000 She's good looking too.

01:55:56.000 I saw her mitts in Black House and I was like, good lord.

01:55:59.000 She's legit.

01:56:00.000 It's one of the best mitts ever.

01:56:01.000 You know what I'm looking forward to, man?

01:56:03.000 I'm looking forward to some of these jiu-jitsu girls getting into MMA. Like jiu-jitsu world champions.

01:56:08.000 Kira?

01:56:09.000 Yeah.

01:56:09.000 Kira fighting.

01:56:10.000 You know how hot she is.

01:56:12.000 She would be fighting 115. She's a looker.

01:56:14.000 If she got in there, oh my god.

01:56:16.000 Sign me up.

01:56:16.000 She's like 5'7", 115 I think she weighs.

01:56:19.000 Kira?

01:56:19.000 Yeah.

01:56:19.000 Kira Gracie.

01:56:20.000 Kira Gracie.

01:56:21.000 Dude.

01:56:21.000 She had a baby, too.

01:56:22.000 She's a 10. Really?

01:56:24.000 She's a 10. God damn it.

01:56:27.000 She's a 10 and a legit strangler.

01:56:29.000 She will armbar your dick, Brian.

01:56:31.000 I don't know about that.

01:56:32.000 She's a strangler.

01:56:33.000 100% she will armbar your fucking face.

01:56:35.000 Yeah, man.

01:56:36.000 I mean, she's no Bruce Lee, but she'll give you a fight.

01:56:39.000 I love her.

01:56:40.000 She's no Bruce Lee, man.

01:56:42.000 You could have your hands full.

01:56:44.000 Michael Johnson getting vasolined up.

01:56:46.000 This is going to be a good fight, man.

01:56:47.000 Fuck yeah, it is.

01:56:48.000 This is a great fight.

01:56:48.000 Eddie, do we have a bet on the main event?

01:56:50.000 OSB Glover.

01:56:51.000 I got OSB. Do you really?

01:56:53.000 Damn, I have OSB, too.

01:56:55.000 But I'll take Glover.

01:56:56.000 There's no way.

01:56:56.000 I'll take Glover just for the bet.

01:56:58.000 How much?

01:56:58.000 What do you want?

01:57:01.000 Here we go!

01:57:02.000 You guys don't think that Glover's a tough fight for him?

01:57:04.000 Hell yeah, it's a tough fight.

01:57:06.000 But if the Glover, before he fought Jon Jones, do you think Glover has had too many tough fights?

01:57:11.000 Hey, Glover's tough.

01:57:12.000 Like the Phil Davis fight.

01:57:13.000 OSP's my boy.

01:57:15.000 And he just hasn't been training right.

01:57:16.000 He's doing something wrong.

01:57:18.000 Yeah, Eddie can't really bet on this because OSP is his boy.

01:57:22.000 So this is one of those situations.

01:57:23.000 Well, OSP's the favorite.

01:57:24.000 Yeah, but Eddie can't, you know.

01:57:27.000 She's so hot.

01:57:28.000 He's biased here.

01:57:28.000 She's so hot.

01:57:29.000 He's going to bet on OSP no matter what.

01:57:30.000 But even if he wasn't.

01:57:31.000 But I'll take Glover.

01:57:33.000 I'll take Glover.

01:57:35.000 He's very good at the twister, and he's a...

01:57:37.000 Well, he's not gonna twister Glover.

01:57:40.000 He's not gonna twister Glover.

01:57:42.000 That ain't happening.

01:57:43.000 Famous last words.

01:57:45.000 Dude, trust me.

01:57:46.000 Glover is grappling better than OSP, my man.

01:57:49.000 OSP is a phenomenal athlete, man.

01:57:53.000 He's...

01:57:53.000 That's great.

01:57:54.000 Yeah.

01:57:54.000 Okay, here we go.

01:57:55.000 And his jiu-jitsu is very dangerous.

01:57:57.000 Let's bet on it, then.

01:57:59.000 How much do you want to bet?

01:58:00.000 500?

01:58:01.000 500. Deal.

01:58:03.000 Dude, I love it.

01:58:04.000 I'm liking it.

01:58:04.000 Did you pay him the last bet?

01:58:05.000 I don't have heat.

01:58:06.000 No, they covered it even, remember?

01:58:08.000 I honey-dicked him into the Frankie Edgar, you're my favorite fight.

01:58:15.000 That's the best way.

01:58:16.000 Just keep doing it back and forth and just keep a tab on.

01:58:19.000 We're going to pay each other money.

01:58:20.000 Yeah, just keep it going.

01:58:21.000 Come on, we'll keep a tab going.

01:58:23.000 What if it gets dark and we have to have a meeting and shit?

01:58:27.000 Hey man, you owe me $50 million.

01:58:29.000 Or if it's like, bro, you have to pay me, man.

01:58:31.000 It's $13,000.

01:58:33.000 It's $13,000, but just give me five right now and we'll shut the fuck up.

01:58:37.000 I can't let you just walk away.

01:58:40.000 I gotta get something.

01:58:41.000 I gotta get something.

01:58:42.000 Instead of me giving you five, I'll bet you five on the next.

01:58:45.000 If I win, we call it even.

01:58:47.000 There you go.

01:58:48.000 But then you lose, and fuck, you lose a thumb.

01:58:52.000 You lose a thumb.

01:58:54.000 I buried it in the back room back there.

01:58:56.000 I'll bet you a thumb.

01:58:57.000 Michael Johnson, here we go.

01:58:58.000 Now let me ask you this.

01:58:59.000 Where's Darius from originally?

01:59:01.000 Do we know?

01:59:02.000 I used to know.

01:59:03.000 I can't remember right now.

01:59:05.000 It's somewhere in like Azerbaijan or something.

01:59:09.000 Herb looks sexy.

01:59:10.000 It's from the steps somewhere.

01:59:11.000 This is the best fight on the card, I think.

01:59:15.000 You better get Reeboked on, girl.

01:59:17.000 I mean, I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers.

01:59:21.000 Which one?

01:59:22.000 That ring card girl.

01:59:23.000 I don't know her name.

01:59:24.000 Chrissy or Vanessa?

01:59:25.000 This guy reminds me of a...

01:59:26.000 Yeah, they're both very nice ladies.

01:59:27.000 ...Gegard Mousasi kind of thing.

01:59:29.000 He's kind of...

01:59:30.000 Oh, that's racist.

01:59:31.000 Relax there.

01:59:31.000 So what happened with Dariush and I need to watch that fight with...

01:59:35.000 It was his last loss, right?

01:59:36.000 Him and Ramsey.

01:59:37.000 Yeah, me too.

01:59:38.000 I had no idea.

01:59:39.000 But that just shows to anybody can get caught.

01:59:42.000 Anybody can get caught.

01:59:43.000 At any given time, you zig when you should have zagged.

01:59:46.000 He has confidence now, though.

01:59:47.000 He's ripped off a couple big wins.

01:59:49.000 So is Michael Johnson's confidence.

01:59:51.000 Fuck, dude, man.

01:59:51.000 He does a good job of keeping his chin tucked.

01:59:54.000 You know, he doesn't keep his hands up high, but he keeps his chin tucked pretty good.

01:59:58.000 He's from Iran.

01:59:59.000 He's from Iran.

02:00:00.000 Thank you, Jamie.

02:00:01.000 There you go.

02:00:01.000 Powerful young Jamie.

02:00:02.000 But see how he's keeping his chin tucked here?

02:00:04.000 I bet you he's a Syrian from Iran.

02:00:08.000 Why do I know that?

02:00:09.000 Did you know that it's a sin?

02:00:11.000 Because he's a Christian.

02:00:13.000 And so if he's a Christian in Iran, he's probably an Assyrian.

02:00:17.000 Powerful knowledge of the world.

02:00:18.000 Oh, Brian will drop some world shit on you, man.

02:00:21.000 There you go, brother.

02:00:21.000 How about when I guessed all their nationalities?

02:00:23.000 That was amazing.

02:00:24.000 We went to a coffee shop, no one spoke English.

02:00:26.000 Brian just started saying, you're from Afghanistan, you're from Belarus, you're from Croatia, and I was like, this fool's on drugs.

02:00:32.000 And all the girls started clapping.

02:00:33.000 And I go, and you're from Turkey.

02:00:35.000 Did you see that HBO special on Iran?

02:00:37.000 What the fuck's wrong with you?

02:00:38.000 Come on, brother, you know I got the guns, I got the Kermit guns, and I got the knowledge.

02:00:43.000 I'm fucking getting pumped right now.

02:00:45.000 You know I got them Kermit!

02:00:46.000 That weed last night.

02:00:48.000 Dude, I'm still high.

02:00:50.000 You want some more?

02:00:51.000 Nope!

02:00:52.000 Okay, right here.

02:00:52.000 I'm good.

02:00:54.000 I went to a different planet.

02:00:56.000 That was very interesting.

02:00:56.000 I'm not a seasoned weeder.

02:00:58.000 You see that HBO special about Iran where you can die if you're gay, but if you have a sex change, they'll let you live?

02:01:05.000 Yes.

02:01:05.000 No, I didn't see that one.

02:01:07.000 So all these gay dudes are having sex change.

02:01:09.000 Because you're supposed to take advantage of science.

02:01:10.000 Science has never been something that Islam had a problem with.

02:01:15.000 Yeah, but what did you say?

02:01:16.000 They're trying to kill you if you're gay.

02:01:18.000 That's not very scientific.

02:01:19.000 That's insane!

02:01:20.000 There's no science behind that.

02:01:23.000 There's a bunch of transvestites that just wish they were dudes.

02:01:27.000 They didn't want to be chicks.

02:01:29.000 It's just a shitload of Caitlyn Jennings over there.

02:01:33.000 But they're not pretty.

02:01:34.000 It was either that or die.

02:01:36.000 Or jail or something.

02:01:38.000 Believe it or not, They say that, but there are gay communities in Iran and places, and like anywhere else, they're kind of left alone.

02:01:46.000 Hey, look at what's going on here.

02:01:47.000 There's a commercial that's going on while the fight is going on.

02:01:51.000 For a movie, that's weird.

02:01:52.000 They just showed a commercial in the corner.

02:01:54.000 A movie preview.

02:01:54.000 Like full videos and shit.

02:01:56.000 You know how much they had to pay for that shit?

02:01:57.000 Is that a new thing?

02:01:58.000 I've never seen that.

02:01:59.000 That's some crazy VIP treatment.

02:02:01.000 I am not.

02:02:02.000 I'm not a fan of that.

02:02:03.000 I'm not a fan of that.

02:02:04.000 Yeah, I'm not appreciating that.

02:02:05.000 Especially these two frickin' world class fighters.

02:02:08.000 Yeah, this is not just words like Monday Night Football coming up next.

02:02:10.000 They should have the stock market on the bottom.

02:02:12.000 We should just show naked chicks.

02:02:14.000 Just show shit that's gonna distract you.

02:02:17.000 Dude, what if the ring girls did like a buy Reebok?

02:02:20.000 Just like on the corners.

02:02:21.000 I don't know the corners.

02:02:22.000 There's chicks dancing on a pole.

02:02:24.000 Yeah, just a girl naked throwing a monster energy drink down her pussy.

02:02:29.000 Yeah.

02:02:32.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:02:33.000 These guys are no joke.

02:02:34.000 You're wearing your pants on stand-up comedy on the side.

02:02:37.000 You remember that Bill Hicks bit about that?

02:02:38.000 Bill Hicks got a great joke about advertisers, if they could do what they wanted to do.

02:02:41.000 You'd just see a girl, and you'd focus on her, and you'd go down to her pussy lips.

02:02:46.000 You'd see she's spreading her fingers, spreading her pussy, and looking you in the eye, and it just says, Drink Coke.

02:02:53.000 Yes.

02:02:54.000 Snickers or drink Coke?

02:02:56.000 Yeah.

02:02:57.000 It's such a great bit.

02:02:59.000 It's so true.

02:03:00.000 If they could do it, that would totally work.

02:03:02.000 I mean, it would turn a lot of women off from Coke.

02:03:04.000 Think if you could do whatever you want and there's no freaking repercussions how different society would be.

02:03:09.000 It's called what you're doing right now on the internet, son.

02:03:10.000 This is true.

02:03:11.000 That's why Fox is panicking.

02:03:13.000 They can't control Big Brown.

02:03:15.000 What do we do?

02:03:17.000 Nobody can control Big Brown.

02:03:19.000 They might pull some JFK shit and the UFC might just snipe me out.

02:03:22.000 Listen, my Porsche.

02:03:23.000 Oh!

02:03:24.000 Damn!

02:03:25.000 Nice straight left.

02:03:26.000 Beautiful timing by Johnson.

02:03:28.000 Damn, I missed it.

02:03:29.000 That was pretty.

02:03:30.000 Oh, man.

02:03:31.000 He's teeing him up.

02:03:33.000 Oh, shit.

02:03:33.000 Dude, Michael Johnson's on fire!

02:03:36.000 Dude, he's been sparred.

02:03:37.000 Damn!

02:03:37.000 Nicky Holtzkin, man.

02:03:38.000 Damn, he looks fast, too, son.

02:03:40.000 Holy shit!

02:03:40.000 He's a fucking animal right now.

02:03:42.000 See, now Dario probably feels like there's something going on here.

02:03:45.000 It's like he's hypnotized.

02:03:47.000 Oh, caught him.

02:03:48.000 Caught him with a knife.

02:03:49.000 He did catch him.

02:03:50.000 For sure makes up the takedowns, though, huh?

02:03:52.000 Don't be so flat-footed where I come from.

02:03:54.000 Yeah, but he thinks he just wants to stand with him.

02:03:56.000 Yikes, he's countering.

02:03:57.000 I think he's so fucking confident in his stand-up from sparring with Holtzkin.

02:04:01.000 Look at this, man.

02:04:03.000 I think as good an athlete as he is, he's picking it up at a very high rate.

02:04:07.000 I agree.

02:04:08.000 He's got really good training down there in Florida.

02:04:10.000 Great camp.

02:04:11.000 Henry Hooft is so fucking clever as a kickboxing coach.

02:04:14.000 Where is he?

02:04:14.000 Down in top of the black zillion guy.

02:04:16.000 Boca Raton, yeah.

02:04:17.000 Will he ever throw a wheel kick?

02:04:18.000 One day.

02:04:19.000 I'm sure he will.

02:04:20.000 We might see that shit.

02:04:20.000 When he trains with me, he will.

02:04:21.000 Edson Barboza, holy shit, right?

02:04:23.000 Edson Barboza, holy goddamn shit.

02:04:25.000 We haven't done a...

02:04:26.000 Oh, that's great, but you know what's the scariest thing?

02:04:27.000 His switch kick is so fast.

02:04:30.000 Remember how fast that was?

02:04:31.000 It was like whack.

02:04:31.000 The guy, he fought that.

02:04:32.000 We were cage side.

02:04:34.000 I couldn't even see it.

02:04:34.000 That Felder guy was good.

02:04:35.000 Holy shit.

02:04:36.000 Felder is really good.

02:04:38.000 They're both throwing serious wheel kicks, serious karate, traditional martial arts shit.

02:04:43.000 Like with death behind it.

02:04:45.000 Like super kung fu theater death.

02:04:46.000 He's tough as shit.

02:04:48.000 When he did that switch kick and he caught him in the ribs, his side was lobster red.

02:04:55.000 I mean, it was like a hematoma almost.

02:04:58.000 Didn't miss a beat.

02:04:59.000 He was protecting it a little bit, but overall...

02:05:00.000 He took a lot of shots at the legs that cut down his movement.

02:05:03.000 You can see, especially in the third round, he was very labored in his movement because of those kicks.

02:05:07.000 It slowed him down, but he is tough as fuck.

02:05:11.000 Edson Barboza, holy motherfucking shit.

02:05:16.000 That guy hits hard.

02:05:17.000 Muscles on muscle.

02:05:18.000 He might be the best kicker in the UFC. Dude, he's scary.

02:05:21.000 Might be the best kicker.

02:05:22.000 That's the last guy you want to fight.

02:05:23.000 He's the only guy that's ever stopped two guys with leg kicks.

02:05:26.000 He stopped two different guys.

02:05:28.000 Anthony Hardong said that...

02:05:29.000 What's that?

02:05:30.000 Pettis is up there.

02:05:31.000 Pettis is up there, but...

02:05:33.000 Anthony Hardong said that Donald Cerrone has the best kicks, he thinks.

02:05:38.000 That's a bad motherfucker, too.

02:05:39.000 Top bad motherfucker, for sure.

02:05:41.000 Yes, he is.

02:05:42.000 Donald's his game as anybody that's ever lived.

02:05:44.000 He's amazing.

02:05:45.000 Game as anybody.

02:05:46.000 He's so much fun to hang around with, too.

02:05:48.000 I love that guy.

02:05:50.000 I love him.

02:05:52.000 Dude, this is a good fight.

02:05:53.000 But Darius's got to figure out how to get this fucking fight to the ground.

02:05:56.000 Yeah, it's hard.

02:05:57.000 Because right now...

02:05:57.000 Oh, look at this.

02:05:58.000 Darius's coming after him now, though.

02:06:01.000 Press him.

02:06:02.000 Darius is not stupid.

02:06:04.000 It's just that I feel like the level of sparring that Johnson's been getting is such a high level.

02:06:10.000 It's going to be hard to take that dude down, man.

02:06:12.000 I mean, you're going to take him.

02:06:13.000 It's going to be impossible.

02:06:15.000 Yeah, he's so quick.

02:06:16.000 His sprawl's so good.

02:06:17.000 I mean, he wrestled in college, right?

02:06:19.000 Yeah, he's a good wrestler, too.

02:06:24.000 When he first started fighting in the UFC in the Ultimate Fighter, showed a lot of wrestling talent.

02:06:27.000 Darius is bigger than him.

02:06:29.000 He looks bigger, but it doesn't seem to matter at this point.

02:06:30.000 Well, he's a long guy, you know, but Johnson's thick.

02:06:34.000 Oh, damn.

02:06:35.000 Darius is no joke.

02:06:36.000 These guys are...

02:06:36.000 Johnson has, like, a nice snap to his punches, too.

02:06:39.000 Yes, he does.

02:06:40.000 Like, he's, like, he's popping it at the end, you know?

02:06:43.000 Speed, man.

02:06:44.000 But, and this is the second round is when you start to see these guys slow down quite a bit, you know?

02:06:50.000 It's some real good footwork, Johnson.

02:06:52.000 Fuck yeah.

02:06:53.000 Looking like T.J. Dillashaw.

02:06:55.000 Except he's not switching.

02:06:56.000 Dude, nobody...

02:06:57.000 Oh!

02:06:58.000 But Daniel's tried for the fucking knee there.

02:07:00.000 Dude, nobody looks as good as T.J. right now.

02:07:02.000 Goddamn T.J. looked good in that Henneper out fight.

02:07:04.000 Him and Dominic next, or what?

02:07:07.000 It depends on where Dominic is at, health-wise.

02:07:10.000 That's the fight, though.

02:07:11.000 That's the money fight.

02:07:12.000 That's the fight.

02:07:12.000 But he obviously doesn't want to come back too soon.

02:07:16.000 I mean, he's already done that a couple of times.

02:07:19.000 Blowing himself out.

02:07:20.000 Fucked his knees up.

02:07:21.000 And it's just the whole thing.

02:07:22.000 It's just such a disaster over and over and over again.

02:07:24.000 I think TJ even said he'd go up to 45 and fight Conor.

02:07:27.000 Yes, he did.

02:07:28.000 Yeah.

02:07:28.000 That's a phenomenal fight, dude.

02:07:30.000 TJ Dillashaw, Conor McGregor.

02:07:32.000 TJ seems...

02:07:33.000 Dude, that would be fucking crazy.

02:07:35.000 He said if Dominic can't go, he wants Conor.

02:07:37.000 Oh, shit!

02:07:39.000 Wow, that would be crazy.

02:07:40.000 Dude, TJ. I feel like TJ's a lot smaller than Conor, though.

02:07:44.000 He's a lot smaller.

02:07:45.000 He's a little dude.

02:07:46.000 But you know what?

02:07:46.000 His wrestling's really good.

02:07:48.000 Good luck hitting him.

02:07:49.000 And his jiu-jitsu.

02:07:50.000 His jiu-jitsu's very good.

02:07:51.000 I remember back in the day when he was first coming up, TJ, I'm like, that little wrestler, he understands jiu-jitsu right away.

02:07:58.000 He's young in this game, and a lot of wrestlers, it takes him years to figure out, you gotta fall in love with jiu-jitsu.

02:08:03.000 That's such a high-stakes gamble, though, to fight a guy like Conor, because Conor can knock him out.

02:08:08.000 And Conor's not slow.

02:08:10.000 He's definitely not slow with his hands.

02:08:13.000 So when TJ fought Barrow, the first fight, he got caught off guard, and TJ cracked him.

02:08:21.000 Nobody expected TJ to be as good as he was.

02:08:23.000 And after that first round, that dude was on autopilot, and TJ just beat the brakes off of him.

02:08:27.000 Like a punching Just beat his ass.

02:08:28.000 But the second fight, you could see Burrell was not the same human being.

02:08:32.000 He's not the same human being.

02:08:33.000 He's not.

02:08:34.000 What do you think that is, Joe?

02:08:36.000 Shell-shocked.

02:08:37.000 It could have been extreme loss of confidence.

02:08:41.000 You also have to deal with post-concussion syndrome because that first fight, he took a fucking beating.

02:08:46.000 Beatdown.

02:08:46.000 He took a beating from the first round to the fifth round.

02:08:49.000 And especially that last combination when TJ Head kicked him.

02:08:54.000 Come on, son.

02:08:55.000 That's terrifying, terrifying shit.

02:08:57.000 Oh, you're right.

02:08:58.000 So you got that.

02:08:59.000 You got the recovery of that.

02:09:00.000 We all know someone who's had a fight like that and never really totally recovered.

02:09:03.000 True.

02:09:04.000 So you got that, and then you got confidence loss because he was this monster who hadn't been beaten in nine years and just was running through people, finding a way to beat everybody.

02:09:13.000 How long does it take to get over, like your last fight, you retire, you got beat down, you got your title taken, you never come back.

02:09:20.000 Obviously, you're going to be sad from that the next day and then two days later and a week later.

02:09:25.000 When does it get to a point where that fight doesn't matter, the fact that you're a boxing icon or an MMA legend, you're beyond that last fight?

02:09:35.000 How long does that take?

02:09:36.000 You're asking the wrong guy.

02:09:38.000 It's different for everybody.

02:09:39.000 I'm not a legend.

02:09:40.000 You know, some guys, look, no guy has ever gone from the Ultimate Fighter and become as good as TJ did, as quick as TJ did.

02:09:46.000 TJ is like a real freak.

02:09:48.000 And he's also a sponge, and he's a super nice guy.

02:09:52.000 Even though TJ is like ultra competitive, right?

02:09:55.000 Obviously.

02:09:55.000 He's wicked competitive.

02:09:57.000 He doesn't have a big ego.

02:09:58.000 It's weird.

02:09:59.000 He's like super confident.

02:10:00.000 He just works hard.

02:10:01.000 He works hard.

02:10:02.000 He doesn't have any road bumps.

02:10:04.000 You know what's a bummer?

02:10:05.000 It's like personality road bumps that some fighters have to keep them from learning.

02:10:08.000 You know what's a bummer, Joe?

02:10:09.000 What?

02:10:09.000 Is the kind of the, I almost want to say the trash truck between Alpha Male and Dwayne now.

02:10:16.000 Like Chad Mendes goes, we fucking made Dwayne Ludwig.

02:10:18.000 Well, it's true.

02:10:19.000 It's true.

02:10:20.000 They did.

02:10:21.000 No, listen, they did.

02:10:22.000 He needed disciples, and he found super athletes that were willing to listen, and it showed what he's capable of.

02:10:29.000 But also what made him is how good he is at it.

02:10:32.000 He's undeniably one of the best striking coaches I've ever seen.

02:10:35.000 For sure.

02:10:36.000 And his relationship with TJ and the progress TJ's made cement that.

02:10:39.000 But you also consider Rafael Cordero.

02:10:42.000 You consider Duke Rufus.

02:10:43.000 You consider Farras Zahabi.

02:10:45.000 You consider Mike Winklejohn.

02:10:47.000 There's a lot of really good striking coaches out there.

02:10:49.000 I agree with that.

02:10:50.000 A lot of it is dependent upon their students.

02:10:52.000 I don't think you can say they made them.

02:10:53.000 But Dwayne found a great stable of studs.

02:10:58.000 That's like every athlete or every trainer's dream.

02:11:01.000 It's a collaborative marriage.

02:11:03.000 It's a symbiotic relationship.

02:11:05.000 Exactly.

02:11:05.000 And nobody should be taking credit for anybody else's.

02:11:10.000 It just bummed me out.

02:11:11.000 It's so unnecessary.

02:11:11.000 I love Team Alpha Male.

02:11:13.000 Obviously, Dwayne and I are very close.

02:11:15.000 I'm very close.

02:11:16.000 I'm very close with both of those guys.

02:11:18.000 I'm very close with TJ. I'm very close with Danny.

02:11:21.000 I love Chad Mendes.

02:11:22.000 I love Uriah.

02:11:22.000 Me, too.

02:11:23.000 I love all those boys.

02:11:24.000 And I love Dwayne, too.

02:11:25.000 And, you know, Onnit, this is not really talked about very much, but we had one point in time thought about buying their gym.

02:11:31.000 We thought about setting up an Onnit gym through them, and we had considered doing it, but we knew that they were having some disputes with Dwayne, and they were trying to sort it all out, but we were talking about going into some sort of an Onnit partnership with them, because we sponsor a lot of those guys.

02:11:45.000 Well, now Campman even left the gym.

02:11:47.000 And we want to start making some more on-it gyms.

02:11:50.000 And having an on-it MMA gym was an idea that we bounced around a few times.

02:11:55.000 And I think that when you have a stable full of guys like Chad Mendes, Lance Palmer, T.J. Dillashaw, Joey Benavidez, Danny Castillo, Uriah motherfucking Faber.

02:12:05.000 I mean, Jesus goddamn Christ.

02:12:07.000 Monsters.

02:12:07.000 These guys are savages.

02:12:09.000 And if you get a guy who's as nuts as Dwayne is, and Dwayne is fucking nuts, about training and about the fanatical approach that he takes to training guys, he's obsessed.

02:12:19.000 He's like a true mad scientist.

02:12:21.000 I mean, the day TJ fought Burrell, he and I had lunch, and there was like five or six other people there.

02:12:26.000 We're all laughing, joking around.

02:12:28.000 Can't wait for the fights today.

02:12:29.000 And Dwayne is sitting there.

02:12:30.000 He's like, what is he going to do?

02:12:30.000 He's going to fake to the left and the whole deal about what you see Burrell does.

02:12:33.000 He's flat-footed.

02:12:34.000 Flat-footed guy is never going to be a guy like TJ. He goes, you're just going to set up these angles.

02:12:38.000 He went out and did exactly what Dwayne said he was going to do.

02:12:40.000 But Dwayne had this maniacal, fanatical thing.

02:12:43.000 It's like TJ's his tapestry.

02:12:45.000 He's like a painter.

02:12:46.000 You need that, though.

02:12:48.000 I don't think those guys would be Exactly.

02:12:50.000 And Dwayne wouldn't be where he's at without them.

02:12:53.000 But Danny Castillo has gotten a lot better.

02:12:56.000 You see Danny Castillo in his last fight, he's throwing all these head kicks, his footwork looks amazing, and he's learning from TJ and he's learning from Dwayne too.

02:13:04.000 Because he's in Denver with those boys.

02:13:06.000 Yes, exactly.

02:13:06.000 But that's the point.

02:13:07.000 It was too bad those guys couldn't work it out.

02:13:10.000 No.

02:13:10.000 Because that is literally the dream relationship.

02:13:13.000 Even Campman's out now.

02:13:16.000 Martin Campman's leaving.

02:13:17.000 Well, he might just be tired of training people.

02:13:19.000 No, he said his family doesn't want to be in Sacramento anymore.

02:13:21.000 That's what he said in the interview.

02:13:23.000 So now they're looking for other coaches.

02:13:24.000 They asked, I think, Kenny Florian.

02:13:26.000 Kenny Florian considered it, apparently.

02:13:27.000 He can sit, but I don't think he can do it because of all his obligations here with media and stuff like that.

02:13:32.000 But Kenny would be great.

02:13:33.000 He would be great.

02:13:34.000 Kenny's a phenomenal coach.

02:13:35.000 He's smart as fuck.

02:13:36.000 Very smart.

02:13:36.000 These guys are actually taking shots to the head, and they don't seem to be faced at all.

02:13:40.000 I don't know what's going on.

02:13:42.000 Sometimes you watch a fight, and you watch these guys.

02:13:43.000 They take a lot of Tylenol, dude.

02:13:45.000 That's the deal.

02:13:46.000 Martin Katzler was the head coach, the head MMA coach.

02:13:48.000 Yeah, he replaced Dwayne.

02:13:50.000 He replaced Dwayne.

02:13:51.000 He's leaving now, too.

02:13:53.000 Ooh, nice uppercut.

02:13:55.000 Michael Johnson has been hit four times and he just keeps coming forward.

02:14:00.000 This is a great fight, I guess.

02:14:02.000 We'll have to go over and watch it.

02:14:03.000 We're not talking shit.

02:14:04.000 It's a good fight.

02:14:05.000 That's the problem with these goddamn fight companions.

02:14:07.000 We miss amazing fights because the company's too good.

02:14:11.000 By the way, Darius right now is winning this round.

02:14:13.000 He's tagged him five times.

02:14:15.000 He's tagged Michael Johnson five times.

02:14:17.000 Might be the only round, though.

02:14:19.000 Yeah, well, look at this.

02:14:21.000 He keeps hitting him.

02:14:22.000 But it's really not fair.

02:14:23.000 It looks like Johnson has slowed down a bit, man.

02:14:25.000 Yeah, Johnson's slowed down.

02:14:26.000 Now's your chance.

02:14:27.000 You know, who knows how hard a time he has making 155. A lot of these dudes have a hard time making that weight, man.

02:14:33.000 Yeah.

02:14:34.000 You see Diego Sanchez drop to 145. He's crazy!

02:14:37.000 How crazy is that?

02:14:38.000 So crazy.

02:14:39.000 Fighting Ricardo Lamas, right?

02:14:40.000 He's so crazy.

02:14:41.000 Mexico.

02:14:41.000 He's so crazy.

02:14:42.000 Phenomenal fight.

02:14:43.000 Hey, now let me ask you this.

02:14:44.000 What do you think about Rockhold dropping down to 185 now with the lack of IVs when they take away your IV? That starts in October, right?

02:14:52.000 Right.

02:14:52.000 When are they fighting?

02:14:55.000 Why did I think they were fighting after that?

02:14:58.000 I thought they were fighting in September.

02:15:00.000 Am I wrong?

02:15:01.000 You might be right.

02:15:02.000 No, I don't think you are.

02:15:03.000 Do you know Jamie?

02:15:03.000 Oh!

02:15:04.000 Beautiful left hand.

02:15:05.000 Damn!

02:15:05.000 Where is it in September?

02:15:07.000 Where is it taking place?

02:15:08.000 You're right.

02:15:09.000 Because...

02:15:09.000 You're right.

02:15:10.000 Because in...

02:15:11.000 Jamie will find out for us.

02:15:13.000 Either way.

02:15:14.000 But either way.

02:15:14.000 Rockhold's a fucking huge...

02:15:15.000 Oh!

02:15:16.000 Darius with a knee!

02:15:16.000 ...huge 85-er.

02:15:18.000 He's big, dude.

02:15:18.000 And those IVs?

02:15:20.000 I mean, they gotta have them, man.

02:15:21.000 But do they?

02:15:22.000 Because Joe Silva was trying to tell me that there's doctors that say it's actually more effective to orally rehydrate.

02:15:28.000 You just have to do it correctly.

02:15:30.000 Come on.

02:15:31.000 I don't think that's true, Joe, because in hospitals, they rehydrate you with IVs, right?

02:15:36.000 Right, yes.

02:15:37.000 But maybe they're lazy.

02:15:38.000 They have to regulate and ensure that you get the right amount of fluid at the right time, and maybe there's a method to rehydrating orally.

02:15:45.000 Well, a lot of time when you just drink, obviously...

02:15:47.000 You'd have to talk to scientists.

02:15:48.000 But when you drink just water to rehydrate, it strips the electrolytes and it actually doesn't rehydrate you.

02:15:53.000 If you use the IV, it goes straight to the bloodstream to rejuvenate those muscles.

02:15:57.000 That's what I would have thought.

02:15:58.000 But I'm obviously not medically qualified to talk about it.

02:16:01.000 But one thing that Jeff Nowitzki told me is that they do it because people can use IVs to mask steroids.

02:16:08.000 Who's Jeff?

02:16:08.000 Jeff Nowitzki is the guy that busted Lance Armstrong.

02:16:10.000 He's the guy that's the new USA drug dude.

02:16:14.000 Blood doping, I think, right?

02:16:15.000 So Joe Silva, the guy who works for the UFC, said IVs are bad.

02:16:19.000 Well, no.

02:16:19.000 He didn't say IVs are bad.

02:16:21.000 Not bad, but he said you should use.

02:16:22.000 But he didn't say that it was more effective.

02:16:25.000 The Novitski guy is very impressive.

02:16:28.000 He doesn't engage in propaganda.

02:16:30.000 He doesn't engage in hyperbole.

02:16:32.000 He's very logical and very calm, very fair.

02:16:36.000 I had a really good conversation with him, and he's doing the podcast soon.

02:16:39.000 That's going to be amazing.

02:16:40.000 Because I need to ask him a million questions about how these guys do things and how the cyclists got away with it.

02:16:46.000 And we were talking about the Tour de France.

02:16:49.000 That was a good fight.

02:16:50.000 We were talking about the Tour de France and how this guy who is at the leader, he goes, he's got to be doing something.

02:16:55.000 He's breaking all the records that the juicers were making.

02:16:58.000 He's like, this guy is setting new record times, and somehow or another he's testing clean.

02:17:03.000 And he said, you know, who knows what they're doing.

02:17:05.000 But the thing is, they have steroids that they're developing testosterone that's not based on plants.

02:17:11.000 Okay, because testosterone now, somehow or another they grow it with yams?

02:17:14.000 Wow.

02:17:15.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

02:17:16.000 It's insane.

02:17:16.000 And there's somehow or another, they can test and they can find that it's non-endogenous, that it's exogenous, I guess that's the word.

02:17:24.000 They can't do that if it's animal stuff.

02:17:26.000 So they're figuring out a way to get testosterone from animals.

02:17:29.000 They're getting animal testosterone, they're injecting it in people.

02:17:31.000 Because it mimics human testosterone?

02:17:33.000 It's bio-identical.

02:17:34.000 It's bio-identical and they can't figure out how to test it.

02:17:36.000 So if guys are doing that, then it doesn't even look like they're on testosterone.

02:17:40.000 That podcast is going to be so dope.

02:17:41.000 Damn.

02:17:42.000 Dude, he's telling me crazy shit.

02:17:44.000 Telling me crazy shit about gene doping, about the next level.

02:17:48.000 You know, I talked about this with Rhonda Patrick on the podcast recently.

02:17:51.000 The next level, by the way, you guys have to have her on.

02:17:53.000 Yeah, we've got to have her on.

02:17:54.000 She'll blow your fucking mind.

02:17:55.000 Let's get her on.

02:17:55.000 I listened to her on yours.

02:17:57.000 This is what you do.

02:17:58.000 For the fighter and the kid, ask her to just study steroids and what steroids you could hide and what steroids would do what and why you would take certain things and what the benefits of it.

02:18:07.000 She'll look through the research on it and come on your show and blow your fucking mind.

02:18:12.000 Drop some knowledge.

02:18:12.000 She's the smartest person I've ever talked to.

02:18:14.000 Wow.

02:18:15.000 Ever.

02:18:15.000 Yeah, when I get her on the podcast, I just wind her up.

02:18:18.000 I just give her a subject.

02:18:19.000 The last thing was cold shock proteins.

02:18:21.000 She was talking about cryotherapy and the positive results of sauna and that sauna people had 40% less mortality across the board.

02:18:30.000 40% reduction in mortality, whether it's cancer, drugs, heart attacks.

02:18:34.000 She was saying sauna's an advantage.

02:18:36.000 Sauna's a spectacular advantage for your body.

02:18:38.000 Really?

02:18:39.000 For longevity, for health.

02:18:40.000 That's what she was saying.

02:18:41.000 There's something about heating your body up to 170 degrees.

02:18:44.000 You put it in that 170 degree environment for as long as you can take it.

02:18:47.000 What if it kills like pathogens or something?

02:18:48.000 No.

02:18:48.000 It creates heat shock proteins.

02:18:50.000 She went into this big thing about heat shock proteins that are only created heat shock proteins and from cryotherapy very similar cold shock proteins.

02:18:58.000 Dude, you gotta listen to the podcast, because it's literally, it's not even me.

02:19:01.000 It's dope.

02:19:01.000 I would lob a ball at her, and then I'd sit back for 20 minutes while she just goes off.

02:19:07.000 And you gotta take notes, you gotta write shit down.

02:19:09.000 Damn, she's a monster.

02:19:10.000 So getting your body at a certain temperature...

02:19:12.000 Yes.

02:19:13.000 It triggers a compensatory response.

02:19:15.000 That compensatory response is called either heat shock proteins or cold shock proteins.

02:19:20.000 And neoprenephrine, which is something that has an effect on mood.

02:19:26.000 What's the word?

02:19:29.000 Neoprenephrine?

02:19:29.000 Wait, what happened here?

02:19:30.000 The fuck is that word that she used?

02:19:31.000 But anyway, whatever it is, it regulates mood.

02:19:34.000 Darius Schwann!

02:19:35.000 Darius Schwann.

02:19:36.000 Wow!

02:19:36.000 Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, Joe.

02:19:38.000 Sorry, brother.

02:19:38.000 No worries.

02:19:39.000 Look at Michael Johnson's furious, man.

02:19:41.000 I think Johnson definitely won that fight, by the way.

02:19:43.000 I do not think I was paying attention.

02:19:45.000 I was just enough.

02:19:46.000 You owe me dinner, though.

02:19:47.000 Not that you haven't paid for 100 dinners.

02:19:49.000 I felt like Darius was actually connecting more.

02:19:51.000 Nor epinephrine.

02:19:52.000 Nor epinephrine.

02:19:53.000 Thank you very much, sir.

02:19:55.000 That fight hasn't been booked yet, either.

02:19:56.000 Oh, it hasn't?

02:19:57.000 Which fight?

02:19:57.000 Which one?

02:19:58.000 Weidman.

02:19:58.000 Really?

02:19:59.000 Rockhold?

02:19:59.000 They haven't a venue yet?

02:20:00.000 I saw a rumor that it may be December 5th, but not officially yet.

02:20:03.000 Oh, you know what?

02:20:04.000 I bet it's the big one.

02:20:05.000 Because they're trying to do a big one December 5th.

02:20:07.000 That's what Knucklehead shouldn't have kept their mouth shut about the UFC calling her out.

02:20:11.000 Cyborg?

02:20:12.000 Oh, in Dallas?

02:20:12.000 Yeah, that's what they're saying.

02:20:13.000 They're saying, listen, can you make 135?

02:20:15.000 If you can make 135 in Dallas, December 5th, let's do this.

02:20:18.000 But she's going to have to get on the scale before they ever make a deal.

02:20:22.000 She's going to have to make that wait before Ronda's doing movies and shit, so it has to work for Ronda's schedule.

02:20:27.000 Well, it's going to be December 5th.

02:20:28.000 If it's the big fight.

02:20:30.000 Sounds like Rocky II. This is what they're trying to do.

02:20:32.000 December 5th, they're trying to do a gigantic arena in Dallas.

02:20:36.000 That huge football arena.

02:20:37.000 Cowboy Stadium.

02:20:38.000 And if they do Cowboy Stadium, it is going to be the motherfucker of all motherfucker cards, dude.

02:20:43.000 It's going to be like McGregor vs.

02:20:45.000 Aldo, Ronda vs.

02:20:47.000 Cyborg, and if they sign Fedor vs.

02:20:50.000 Verdum, and that's also on the card, are you kidding me?

02:20:55.000 Holy shit.

02:20:56.000 Overeem will be versus Dos Santos the next time they fight.

02:20:59.000 Most likely.

02:21:00.000 You think they'll ever do a Super Bowl card like that?

02:21:02.000 That would be the big card.

02:21:03.000 That would be the card.

02:21:04.000 They're supposed to, yeah.

02:21:05.000 And then Joanna versus Claudia.

02:21:08.000 Once a year, right?

02:21:09.000 Once a year you have a super card.

02:21:11.000 Once a goddamn year, give me a super card.

02:21:14.000 God damn it.

02:21:15.000 Well, they're apparently planning UFC 200 for next July.

02:21:18.000 It's Rafael right there, right?

02:21:18.000 They're already advertising.

02:21:20.000 Yeah, there's Rafael Cordero.

02:21:21.000 Great guy.

02:21:22.000 Awesome coach.

02:21:23.000 So friendly.

02:21:24.000 Beautiful dude.

02:21:25.000 Yeah.

02:21:25.000 Always like that.

02:21:26.000 Beautiful smile.

02:21:27.000 And just a warm, friendly guy.

02:21:29.000 Just truly loves his students.

02:21:30.000 Damn.

02:21:31.000 Great guy.

02:21:31.000 So they're already showing these teaser trailers for UFC 200, which is next July.

02:21:36.000 So they're planning it.

02:21:37.000 There's a fucking stud.

02:21:38.000 Matt Hughes and Robbie Lawler.

02:21:40.000 Yeah, Robbie Lawler healed up like Wolverine.

02:21:42.000 Yeah, he did.

02:21:43.000 Yes, he did.

02:21:43.000 He healed up like Wolverine.

02:21:44.000 You can't even tell that he was split open.

02:21:46.000 Wolverine, man.

02:21:47.000 You can't even tell he was split open.

02:21:48.000 That's awesome.

02:21:48.000 Too rough looking.

02:21:49.000 Yeah, UFC 200 is going to be fucked.

02:21:51.000 Dude, how about they're going to do Robbie Lawler versus Carlos Condit?

02:21:56.000 Brian Callen was calling for that fight.

02:21:58.000 I can't wait for that fight.

02:21:59.000 How about this fight right here?

02:22:00.000 Max versus Oliveira.

02:22:03.000 Max Holloway's a bad motherfucker, dude.

02:22:05.000 Is this going on right now?

02:22:06.000 This is coming up.

02:22:08.000 I called this one today, too.

02:22:09.000 I did one of those countdown shows for this.

02:22:13.000 Max Holloway impressed the fuck out of me versus Cubs.

02:22:15.000 Where do you do those countdown shows, Joe?

02:22:16.000 Here?

02:22:17.000 Two of them near this area.

02:22:19.000 What were those white things hanging from?

02:22:21.000 California?

02:22:23.000 Well, I didn't know if you had to go to a UFC studio or what.

02:22:26.000 No, we go to a sound studio.

02:22:27.000 Gotcha.

02:22:28.000 Yeah, it's just a place.

02:22:28.000 There's a hundred of those fucking places.

02:22:30.000 Have you ever done those?

02:22:31.000 I do one for the video game, too, man.

02:22:34.000 I've been doing the video game again.

02:22:35.000 I did one for them for the top five greatest fights of all time, and I went to Unbreakable Gym.

02:22:41.000 Oh, that's cool.

02:22:42.000 Eric Silva, Rick Story, holy shit.

02:22:44.000 That's a great fight.

02:22:46.000 Max Holloway and Charles Oliveira.

02:22:48.000 I fucking love that fight.

02:22:49.000 Kote Berkman's a fun fight.

02:22:50.000 Hey boys, what date is that?

02:22:51.000 August 23rd.

02:22:52.000 Are we doing this or what?

02:22:53.000 It's a Sunday.

02:22:54.000 That sounds like a good day to do a fucking fight companion.

02:22:57.000 I'm here.

02:22:58.000 Dude, who's here?

02:23:00.000 Let's see it in August.

02:23:00.000 Hell yeah, I'm here.

02:23:01.000 I'm here.

02:23:02.000 We're going to Onnit next week, but that's it.

02:23:04.000 Let's do it.

02:23:04.000 Then we go to Costa Rica next week.

02:23:06.000 Yeah, it's a Sunday.

02:23:07.000 I like it.

02:23:08.000 I'm here.

02:23:08.000 Are you sure you're not doing it?

02:23:09.000 I'm here on the 23rd.

02:23:10.000 Are you sure you're not doing it?

02:23:11.000 I'm 100% not doing it.

02:23:12.000 No, that's a fight night.

02:23:13.000 That's a fight night.

02:23:14.000 Joe says not.

02:23:15.000 Let's do it.

02:23:16.000 That's Brian Stan.

02:23:17.000 Dude, it's going to come to one day.

02:23:19.000 This is going to be too fun.

02:23:20.000 It's going to be like Fight Companion is going to be more fun than actually being there at the fights.

02:23:25.000 Dude, when I text you guys, especially when I text you, I'm like, bro, Fight Companion for this?

02:23:28.000 You're like, I'm out of town.

02:23:30.000 I'm like, oh.

02:23:31.000 I know, but it makes it...

02:23:31.000 So sad.

02:23:32.000 When you said the other day, and I said, fuck yeah, and you said, fuck yeah.

02:23:35.000 So happy.

02:23:36.000 We both got all jazzed out of our ass.

02:23:38.000 Makes my week.

02:23:39.000 Eddie texted me, fight companion, I go, fuck yeah.

02:23:41.000 Oh shit, the stars are aligning.

02:23:43.000 And then Callan texts me, we're all texting each other.

02:23:46.000 It's better that way.

02:23:46.000 The gang is back.

02:23:48.000 The gang is back, ladies and gentlemen.

02:23:50.000 When we did the companion without you, it felt weird, man.

02:23:53.000 Well, how about Bobby Lee's girlfriend stole the show?

02:23:55.000 I know.

02:23:56.000 She dropped some knowledge and she was hot as shit.

02:23:58.000 She knew a lot more than I did.

02:23:59.000 Bobby Lee shut down.

02:24:00.000 Bobby Lee shut down.

02:24:02.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:24:03.000 Oh, by the way, if you tell me Bobby, she was on the Filipino national swimming team.

02:24:07.000 Exactly what I'm saying.

02:24:08.000 I was like, huh?

02:24:09.000 That's what you're saying, yeah.

02:24:10.000 If you have a woman as dominant as Ronda, a man, there's going to have to be some sort of an odd balance.

02:24:17.000 Yeah.

02:24:17.000 If you have a man as submissive and small as Bobby Lee, you're going to have to have a woman that takes up the slack.

02:24:23.000 I guess so.

02:24:23.000 Or Ronda needs like a fucking Thor.

02:24:26.000 Just this badass motherfucker.

02:24:28.000 I think that's more likely.

02:24:29.000 Like she's not going to go for a real passive.

02:24:30.000 Like a Brock Lesnar?

02:24:32.000 Yeah, Todd Duffy that's been in a lab.

02:24:35.000 Yeah, something stuff.

02:24:36.000 Artificially created.

02:24:37.000 She's so rich, she's going to have some dude artificially created.

02:24:40.000 But you were one of the ones that said that Todd Duffy's insanely physically talented, right?

02:24:45.000 Might be the best I've ever seen in the gym.

02:24:47.000 Really?

02:24:47.000 I've seen Todd Duffy move.

02:24:49.000 Mentally, it's just...

02:24:50.000 He struggles.

02:24:51.000 He's lost a few times by knockout, and that's not even mental.

02:24:54.000 That's heavyweight.

02:24:54.000 He just got cracked.

02:24:56.000 But if you see him move, he's got an extremely impressive way of movement.

02:25:02.000 Like, there's like...

02:25:03.000 This is hard to describe, but when you see guys fight so many times, you see like thousands and thousands of fights up close, one of the things you notice is if someone's sloppy in their movement, if they're sloppy in their movement, that they're probably sloppy in their thinking, and they're probably sloppy somehow in their preparation,

02:25:21.000 and it might just be a little bit, but that little bit might be they get, they pull back, and then they relax, and then they get back up, and then The way they set up.

02:25:29.000 Whereas some guys have this super efficient movement, like Anderson.

02:25:34.000 Anderson in his prime had this super efficient movement.

02:25:37.000 There was no slop in anything he did.

02:25:40.000 So when Anderson moved in on you, and when he uncorked shit on you, it was just, shoom!

02:25:45.000 It was just coming in out of nowhere, which was half the magic of what he did.

02:25:48.000 There was fractions and milliseconds of things that were missing in his movement that were available in other people's things.

02:25:55.000 And you couldn't read.

02:25:55.000 You couldn't read.

02:25:56.000 And he would do shit like he was setting you up for stuff and you didn't know.

02:25:59.000 Like when he front kicked Vitor in the face.

02:26:01.000 Jesus Christ.

02:26:02.000 He was setting him up for it.

02:26:03.000 He just saw Vitor's movement.

02:26:05.000 He saw how it was going.

02:26:06.000 And it comes out of nowhere.

02:26:08.000 And next thing you know, it's the ball of the foot to your chin.

02:26:11.000 There's some guys don't recognize that.

02:26:14.000 Unless you train that way.

02:26:16.000 Unless you have this very, very, like, miserly approach to movement.

02:26:21.000 Like, all that extra shit.

02:26:22.000 All this sloppy.

02:26:23.000 Waste of time.

02:26:24.000 Where the hand drops.

02:26:25.000 Everything has to be locked.

02:26:27.000 Like, you watch Ioana.

02:26:28.000 Ioana Injecek when she moves in.

02:26:30.000 That bitch is, like, locked down and lethal.

02:26:33.000 Everything is super efficient.

02:26:35.000 Like, when you see her moving in, everything is just locked into position.

02:26:38.000 And when the techniques come off, it's like, yeah!

02:26:41.000 Todd's that way.

02:26:43.000 Duffy's that way in training.

02:26:44.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:26:45.000 This is why I think he has a...

02:26:48.000 The mental game's not there for him because when I saw him fight Frank Mare, I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?

02:26:53.000 Why are you running with your chin down throwing bombs?

02:26:55.000 He got excited.

02:26:56.000 He got excited.

02:26:57.000 He thought he was going to win by knockout.

02:26:58.000 But that's everything.

02:26:59.000 You're right.

02:27:01.000 You're right.

02:27:01.000 I'm telling you, man, in the gym, and he went to AKA, and I asked Daniel Cormier, I'm like, how good's Todd Duffy?

02:27:07.000 He goes, bro, that guy's a fucking monster.

02:27:10.000 I went, right?

02:27:11.000 But for whatever reason, it's just not translating.

02:27:13.000 And this is a good way to tell if a guy's mentally strong.

02:27:16.000 And I'm not saying Todd's not, but there's an issue.

02:27:18.000 Look at the guys he's beat, and then look when he fights someone who doesn't back down, who's not scared of your body, who's not scared of your previous records.

02:27:26.000 When you fight a vet who's like, what?

02:27:28.000 You did what?

02:27:29.000 I'm not going to get knocked down by a single punch.

02:27:32.000 That's when you can tell a guy's record.

02:27:34.000 In his defense, he's had a long time off the UFC. He went through a lot of health issues.

02:27:39.000 And I think he's getting back on track.

02:27:41.000 And I think he doesn't have a lot of recent experience.

02:27:44.000 I mean, he's got that one Anthony Hamilton fight where he knocked him out.

02:27:47.000 He looked spectacular in that fight.

02:27:49.000 And how many other fights has he had since he's been back?

02:27:50.000 I think that's it.

02:27:51.000 Since he's back, it's just that one.

02:27:53.000 Yeah, that was his first fight back.

02:27:54.000 But the lack of experience.

02:27:57.000 His recent experience.

02:27:59.000 For sure.

02:28:00.000 But think about, you look at the guy he's beat, he really hasn't beat any big names.

02:28:06.000 Right, but he hasn't fought any big names either.

02:28:08.000 He's only fought Alistair when Alistair was on Moon Juice.

02:28:14.000 Yeah, he fought Uber.

02:28:18.000 They were pulling lava out of the fucking core of the moon.

02:28:22.000 Right out of its thyroid.

02:28:23.000 And stuffing it right into his fucking muscle tissue.

02:28:26.000 Dude, have you ever seen that fight?

02:28:28.000 He's like Silver Surfer, bro.

02:28:29.000 He wasn't even a real human.

02:28:30.000 He wasn't like Silver Surfer.

02:28:31.000 He was just running over Todd Duncan.

02:28:34.000 He was like, don't do it!

02:28:36.000 There's a video of you looking at him as he's weighing in, and you're just like, huh?

02:28:39.000 That was when he fought Brock.

02:28:41.000 Oh, my God.

02:28:42.000 He weighed 265. That was before all they did was urine tests back then.

02:28:46.000 That's the only fight I've ever seen where when he weighed in, I thought, we're all fucked.

02:28:51.000 Yeah, we're all fucked.

02:28:52.000 Watch out.

02:28:52.000 Well, I should just retire right now.

02:28:54.000 We're fucked.

02:28:54.000 If you gave Alistair Overeem the whole medicine cabinet and said, have at it, sir.

02:29:01.000 You would have the most terrifying guy of all time.

02:29:04.000 He would never lose.

02:29:05.000 Yeah, at his best when he was whatever he was on.

02:29:08.000 If he was on anything or not.

02:29:09.000 We know he got caught, but who knows if that was one time.

02:29:12.000 I'm just trying to be nice.

02:29:13.000 I'm just trying to be nice.

02:29:14.000 I like the guy.

02:29:16.000 But my point being, when he was that guy, when he fought in K-1 like that, when he was just jacked to the fucking tits.

02:29:22.000 They had strict testing.

02:29:23.000 He was a monster.

02:29:24.000 Yeah, they made sure you were on terror.

02:29:26.000 They test you.

02:29:27.000 Not enough.

02:29:28.000 He was a monster.

02:29:29.000 He's a monster.

02:29:30.000 I think that him at that level, when he's at that level, would be super hard to beat.

02:29:35.000 But it's like when you get used to competing like that, and you get used to being at that level, and then you're no longer anymore, then the mental game kicks in.

02:29:42.000 For sure.

02:29:42.000 Him and Dos Santos, look at him.

02:29:44.000 Oh my god!

02:29:45.000 Look at that photo!

02:29:47.000 He went first in Mr. Olympia!

02:29:48.000 Look at that photo!

02:29:49.000 That's so insane!

02:29:50.000 What a body!

02:29:51.000 Look at his arms!

02:29:52.000 You know, he used to fight at 205, right?

02:29:54.000 I know!

02:29:54.000 And he was thin!

02:29:56.000 I don't know why he didn't say it at 205, but I remember watching...

02:29:59.000 The crazy thing is, he said it was from horse meat.

02:30:02.000 Horse meat.

02:30:02.000 And everyone...

02:30:03.000 And some people bought it.

02:30:05.000 Some people, I was like, what?

02:30:07.000 And then you think, like, maybe it is horse meat.

02:30:09.000 He's an Amsterdam.

02:30:10.000 He makes me look like Kermit the Frog.

02:30:12.000 But you know what's really crazy?

02:30:13.000 He's not even pumped up there.

02:30:14.000 So weird.

02:30:15.000 See, that's a guy who's just flaccid and flexing.

02:30:18.000 Like, when you lift weights, it's a thing.

02:30:20.000 Like, if you see a photo of someone and they look giant, they might have just lift weights and their arms literally get, like, twice as big.

02:30:26.000 You get pumped up.

02:30:27.000 He's just chilling there.

02:30:28.000 He's just relaxing in his underwear on a scale in front of millions.

02:30:31.000 Poor Brock Lesnar.

02:30:32.000 Got kicked right in the fucking liver.

02:30:34.000 Was like, oh, fuck this.

02:30:35.000 He got kicked right where he had surgery.

02:30:37.000 Yes.

02:30:37.000 I mean, that's crazy.

02:30:38.000 On purpose.

02:30:38.000 The guy had 12 inches of his colon removed, and then he fought a year later.

02:30:43.000 We got 500 on this, right?

02:30:44.000 We got 500. Man, you think he's going to lose in his hometown?

02:30:47.000 No, no.

02:30:47.000 You think he's going to lose in his hometown?

02:30:48.000 No, no.

02:30:48.000 I think OSB's going to win, but just for the fun of this show, I got Glover taken.

02:30:54.000 For the record, I think OSB's not a guy.

02:30:57.000 Annul that bet.

02:30:58.000 I'm taking Glover.

02:31:00.000 I got Glover.

02:31:01.000 I think Glover's going to win by submission.

02:31:03.000 And it's going to really hurt your feelings.

02:31:05.000 Glover's going to block and knock him out.

02:31:08.000 Glover's going to knock him out?

02:31:09.000 I don't want to hurt you, brother.

02:31:11.000 I think Glover is a very composed...

02:31:13.000 When Ovensen Pru knocked out Pat Cummins, he woke my eyes up.

02:31:17.000 Me too.

02:31:18.000 He knocked out...

02:31:19.000 Didn't I tell you?

02:31:19.000 That was a nice uppercut on his back foot.

02:31:22.000 Well, I think he's talented as fuck.

02:31:23.000 I've always loved him.

02:31:24.000 He's explosive as fuck.

02:31:24.000 But what he's doing is he's getting better.

02:31:26.000 He's getting more and more skillful.

02:31:27.000 And when he knocked out Shogun with that beautiful step-aside left hook...

02:31:30.000 Confidence is a big thing for us.

02:31:32.000 He likes twisters, dude.

02:31:33.000 That was spectacular.

02:31:34.000 He's so hilarious.

02:31:35.000 He's got all these victories by knockout, and he's like, the twister.

02:31:41.000 You know what?

02:31:42.000 I think he's the only guy or the second guy in history in MMA. He got someone in the truck and got him in a calf crank.

02:31:48.000 He's always in the truck.

02:31:49.000 You see those scars on his arm?

02:31:52.000 It's the Omega.

02:31:54.000 That would make you like, wouldn't that create some texture?

02:31:59.000 Wouldn't that make it, like, difficult, like, for you to slip out of stuff?

02:32:02.000 Depends.

02:32:02.000 Like, if you decide, if someone was so gangster, they decided to scar all their arms, from their wrists all the way up to the top of their shoulder, so they have a more textured skin, so guys couldn't get out of chokes.

02:32:14.000 So you couldn't slip out of guillotines.

02:32:16.000 That's some dedication, bro.

02:32:17.000 If someone found out that there was a way of creating scarification that made a textured surface, and scars don't sweat the same way regular skin sweats.

02:32:28.000 They burn their skin like Darkman.

02:32:30.000 Yeah.

02:32:30.000 If somebody did that, a long process, and created a super textured skin all over their arm.

02:32:36.000 Like Freddy Krueger, bro.

02:32:37.000 There's a tribe.

02:32:39.000 There's actually a tribe in Africa that does that.

02:32:41.000 Well, think about it.

02:32:42.000 They do a lot of scarification.

02:32:43.000 In Africa, they scar their backs, and sometimes they die and go into shock and all that, but they'll scar their entire back.

02:32:51.000 To look like a crocodile.

02:32:52.000 Yeah, I've seen that.

02:32:53.000 I think OSP's by far the better athlete.

02:32:57.000 I just think Glover has more experience.

02:32:59.000 And, dude, when I trained with Glover, his wrestling and grappling, he hasn't shown it much, but he's a fucking nightmare.

02:33:06.000 Well, his top game is heavy.

02:33:08.000 When he got Kyle Kingsborough in the ground, you could see, like, ooh, that's a heavy top game.

02:33:12.000 His arm trying was nasty.

02:33:13.000 He wears him like a sweater, Joe.

02:33:15.000 He had a lot of hype coming in.

02:33:16.000 A ton of hype because of Chuck Liddell.

02:33:17.000 Right, but also you've got to think those six years he was out of the UFC were six years of his prime.

02:33:22.000 When he was Chuck Liddell's main training partner, everybody was high on him.

02:33:25.000 He was the first guy to...

02:33:29.000 What the fuck is his name?

02:33:31.000 Looks like the Predator, the Crazy Dreadlocks.

02:33:33.000 Sokiju.

02:33:34.000 He was the first guy that knocked out Sokiju.

02:33:35.000 He knocked out Sokiju in the WEC? Or was it WEC? Or Palace?

02:33:40.000 Which fight was it?

02:33:42.000 It was WEC. And that was the first time I saw Glover fight.

02:33:46.000 I was like, whoa, this dude is a gangster.

02:33:48.000 There's so much hype on him from everyone, though.

02:33:50.000 Yeah, but you gotta think, man.

02:33:52.000 He's like, what, 37, 38 now?

02:33:54.000 How old is he?

02:33:55.000 Isn't he 36, Jamie?

02:33:57.000 Find out how old the Glover is.

02:33:58.000 Oh man.

02:33:59.000 Oh fucking man.

02:34:00.000 The reality is if he's not doing anything, if you get to this stage in boxing, if you get to this stage like back in the day when no one was taking anything, right?

02:34:09.000 Like the Marvin Hagler era.

02:34:10.000 Yeah.

02:34:10.000 We assumed nobody was taking anything.

02:34:12.000 Let's hope not.

02:34:12.000 What guy got to be like 36, it's the fucking end of the road.

02:34:15.000 Yeah.

02:34:15.000 Over, over.

02:34:16.000 All dogs go to heaven.

02:34:17.000 Yeah, it's over.

02:34:18.000 All dogs go to heaven.

02:34:20.000 The line of the night.

02:34:21.000 It's over, my man.

02:34:23.000 It's true.

02:34:23.000 All dogs go to heaven.

02:34:24.000 It is.

02:34:25.000 It was the line of the night earlier.

02:34:26.000 Kermit the Frog?

02:34:27.000 Yeah.

02:34:28.000 There was another one before that, too.

02:34:30.000 Angel Piss?

02:34:30.000 Angel Piss.

02:34:31.000 No, but there was another one, too, actually.

02:34:33.000 I don't even know, man.

02:34:34.000 Why don't you just stand up?

02:34:36.000 Come on.

02:34:36.000 Dude, you could do it.

02:34:37.000 Believe me.

02:34:38.000 If you could do it on this podcast, you could do it on stage.

02:34:40.000 You would love it.

02:34:41.000 I agree.

02:34:42.000 You 100% could do it.

02:34:43.000 Listen, what you should do...

02:34:44.000 I just want to do it and hang out with you guys at night.

02:34:46.000 Anytime.

02:34:46.000 You can always do that.

02:34:47.000 I just want a reason to hang out at night.

02:34:49.000 I don't know why you wouldn't.

02:34:50.000 I don't know why you don't start writing and just...

02:34:51.000 We'll go over some stuff and just get up and have fun with us.

02:34:54.000 Here's what you do.

02:34:55.000 This is your move.

02:34:56.000 Ready?

02:34:56.000 You go on the road with Brian and Brian brings you up and you do like five minutes.

02:35:01.000 That's it.

02:35:01.000 You tell a story for five minutes.

02:35:03.000 Really?

02:35:03.000 And even if it The bombs, you laugh, and then you bring him back, and then, you know, everything's groovy.

02:35:07.000 Because there's no expectations.

02:35:08.000 It'd be sick.

02:35:09.000 I mean, I'm not scared.

02:35:10.000 I just don't want to disrespect the...

02:35:12.000 I don't want to disrespect.

02:35:14.000 That's like saying I don't want to try Jiu-Jitsu because I don't want to disrespect Jiu-Jitsu.

02:35:17.000 It's like everything else.

02:35:18.000 Everybody sucks at first.

02:35:19.000 And you'll be funny because you're funny already.

02:35:22.000 I agree.

02:35:22.000 Dude, you can do it.

02:35:23.000 I agree.

02:35:23.000 I'm down with you guys' help.

02:35:24.000 Right now, there's keyboard warriors all across America going, You guys are fucking ridiculous!

02:35:28.000 He's not funny!

02:35:30.000 He's a fucking meathead!

02:35:31.000 You're screaming!

02:35:33.000 Everybody's not funny!

02:35:35.000 You're not funny either!

02:35:36.000 Fuck you!

02:35:37.000 Fuck him!

02:35:38.000 Stop trying to get everybody to do comedy!

02:35:41.000 Stop telling everybody to do a podcast!

02:35:43.000 It worked!

02:35:43.000 Look, the podcast worked.

02:35:45.000 It did, man.

02:35:46.000 The podcast is stellar.

02:35:47.000 Listen, man.

02:35:48.000 Goddamn, the biggest thing both of you guys do now.

02:35:49.000 I'm going to get to you after five minutes.

02:35:51.000 You're going to come on the road with me.

02:35:52.000 I'm down, man.

02:35:52.000 Fuck yeah, man.

02:35:53.000 You can do it easy.

02:35:54.000 By the way, you guys have a giant, crazy live show if you did that.

02:35:58.000 It'd be nuts.

02:35:59.000 He's 35. There we go.

02:36:00.000 We got our live show, by the way, October 1st.

02:36:03.000 Brea Improv.

02:36:04.000 Tickets just went on sale.

02:36:06.000 First live show just went on sale.

02:36:07.000 Oh, shit.

02:36:08.000 Oh, I'm going to be at the Cot Theater September 4th in Vegas with Ian Edwards and Greg Fitzsimmons.

02:36:13.000 I like it.

02:36:14.000 We just had Greg on.

02:36:15.000 He's a funny dude.

02:36:16.000 He said you guys were roommates.

02:36:17.000 And then, of course, I went, you ever seen his dick?

02:36:20.000 And he went, no, I didn't.

02:36:21.000 I went, you were roommates?

02:36:22.000 You never checked out his dick?

02:36:23.000 Yeah.

02:36:23.000 I hear Greg's got a piece on him, though.

02:36:25.000 That's the rumor.

02:36:26.000 He doesn't have a little dick.

02:36:27.000 It's not little.

02:36:28.000 Well, no, he said it's, like, award-winning.

02:36:30.000 Well, he's a little guy.

02:36:32.000 You know what?

02:36:33.000 That'll throw you off.

02:36:34.000 Yeah, if that was on Ben Rothwell, it wouldn't look so big.

02:36:36.000 There you go.

02:36:37.000 Are you going to be here next week?

02:36:38.000 Ben looks like he's a small dick.

02:36:40.000 He's huge.

02:36:41.000 He's so big.

02:36:42.000 He gave me a hug the other day.

02:36:43.000 I was like, Jesus.

02:36:43.000 He's so big.

02:36:44.000 And hairy.

02:36:45.000 What was it like fighting that dude?

02:36:48.000 I was so cocky, I thought I was going to smoke him.

02:36:50.000 I think it was spinning elbow and landed.

02:36:53.000 And I never trained it before.

02:36:55.000 I saw John do it.

02:36:56.000 I was like, oh, I'm going to do that again.

02:36:58.000 Never trained it, landed, wobbled him.

02:37:00.000 Guess what?

02:37:01.000 The last words before I went in the cage, my coaches know me.

02:37:04.000 They go, listen, you have better cardio, better technique.

02:37:06.000 Let's drag this in the third round.

02:37:08.000 I went, yeah, cool.

02:37:09.000 Went in, spinning elbow, nuts.

02:37:11.000 Knocked out.

02:37:12.000 Damn it.

02:37:13.000 I like this.

02:37:14.000 Nuts.

02:37:15.000 Nuts.

02:37:16.000 Oh my god.

02:37:19.000 It's a bad idea.

02:37:20.000 Here we go.

02:37:21.000 Ovin St. Proof.

02:37:22.000 Finding out in Knoxville, Tennessee, bitches.

02:37:24.000 I think it's crazy that Bruce Buffer does all this amazing, passionate shit and they never show it on TV. I love watching it.

02:37:32.000 It's one of my favorite things to watch.

02:37:34.000 They never show it.

02:37:34.000 They always cut to a crowd shot.

02:37:37.000 Bruce Buffer might be one of my favorite Americans.

02:37:39.000 Tara Swift said it best.

02:37:41.000 Haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.

02:37:43.000 That's a nice song.

02:37:44.000 It's true.

02:37:46.000 Are those the lyrics?

02:37:47.000 Yeah.

02:37:48.000 People don't know this, but Bruce Buffer's going off right now.

02:37:52.000 Listen to it.

02:37:52.000 Can we hear it, Jamie?

02:37:53.000 He's going off.

02:37:54.000 We just don't see him.

02:37:56.000 Let's see if we can hear.

02:37:58.000 Here, pump it up.

02:38:00.000 Here we go.

02:38:01.000 Here we go.

02:38:03.000 Keep it cranking.

02:38:04.000 Dude, he jumps and spins right here.

02:38:06.000 Watch.

02:38:07.000 Look at him.

02:38:09.000 Yeah, they pulled back on him.

02:38:10.000 They pulled back.

02:38:11.000 You got a little bit.

02:38:12.000 Why hate on Bruce?

02:38:14.000 I don't know.

02:38:15.000 They're going to do the best ref in the game right there.

02:38:18.000 Yeah.

02:38:19.000 Give him the reach around right there.

02:38:20.000 Big boys.

02:38:21.000 Got a set of tits on him.

02:38:22.000 These are some big fighters right here.

02:38:24.000 I like that Big John's doing this.

02:38:26.000 Me too, man.

02:38:26.000 Guaranteed a good referee here.

02:38:28.000 I wonder why Bruce doesn't just give Big John the mic.

02:38:32.000 So you take the mic.

02:38:33.000 Hey, hear me out here.

02:38:34.000 Hear me out here.

02:38:35.000 Why not?

02:38:36.000 What?

02:38:36.000 OSP, right?

02:38:37.000 Yeah.

02:38:39.000 USA, Glover, Brazil.

02:38:40.000 Why not have the trunks?

02:38:41.000 If you're going to do them like that, they have this name.

02:38:43.000 But to make it different, why not have the trunks yellow and green and black and then have OSP's USA colors?

02:38:50.000 Not a bad idea.

02:38:52.000 Bro, his wrestling is fucking good.

02:38:55.000 OSP early is tough to take down.

02:38:57.000 Trust me.

02:38:58.000 Super tough to take down.

02:38:59.000 As the rounds go on, it gets easier and easier.

02:39:01.000 Look at this.

02:39:01.000 Glover took him right down.

02:39:02.000 OSP off his back.

02:39:03.000 No bueno.

02:39:04.000 No bueno.

02:39:04.000 Glover just took him right down, right in the half card.

02:39:06.000 That was impressive.

02:39:07.000 Hey, I'd have to pay you right now.

02:39:08.000 Dude, that was impressive.

02:39:10.000 I could pay you next time.

02:39:11.000 You're kind of fucked.

02:39:12.000 He's a beast on the ground, man.

02:39:14.000 Super beast on top.

02:39:15.000 He's so dangerous on top.

02:39:16.000 He's got such good control.

02:39:17.000 You know what OSP's worst thing is?

02:39:19.000 Oh, look at all that great control.

02:39:21.000 Oh, so great.

02:39:22.000 Little ground and pound.

02:39:23.000 Dude, OSP's hip.

02:39:24.000 You're right, though.

02:39:25.000 You're right, though.

02:39:27.000 No, you're right.

02:39:28.000 No, but he, look, OSP got out of there, man, for sure.

02:39:30.000 Oh, low.

02:39:31.000 It's OSP's hips, man, or a beast from football.

02:39:34.000 Someone doesn't have a diamond cup.

02:39:36.000 Diamond MMA cups.

02:39:38.000 Gotta have a diamond cup.

02:39:39.000 Took one right to the jewels.

02:39:41.000 Just like a diamond-shaped pisshole.

02:39:43.000 Took one to the acai berries.

02:39:46.000 Acai, that's never fun.

02:39:47.000 Especially when you're trying to grind a guy out.

02:39:49.000 If he's okay right now, he lied.

02:39:51.000 Because it takes way longer than that.

02:39:52.000 No, sometimes there's pressure.

02:39:53.000 No, sometimes there's pressure, man.

02:39:55.000 You need five minutes for real.

02:39:56.000 I know, but there's pressure.

02:39:57.000 The fans are like, come on!

02:39:58.000 There's obviously levels of getting hit by nuts.

02:40:00.000 You can't heal in 30 seconds.

02:40:02.000 Look at the size of his ass and legs.

02:40:04.000 Jesus Christ.

02:40:05.000 Oh!

02:40:05.000 Look at the nasty kick to the body.

02:40:07.000 Oh, he hurt him.

02:40:08.000 Oh, he rocked him.

02:40:08.000 I want my money right now.

02:40:10.000 Oh my God.

02:40:10.000 Right now.

02:40:11.000 Right now.

02:40:12.000 Look at this.

02:40:13.000 Olvens has got a hold.

02:40:14.000 Look at this.

02:40:16.000 Oh shit!

02:40:17.000 Elbows!

02:40:18.000 Elbows!

02:40:18.000 Hammer fist!

02:40:19.000 If you pay me now, 200 bucks.

02:40:21.000 No sir.

02:40:21.000 200 bucks, just give it to me now.

02:40:22.000 Oh!

02:40:22.000 No sir.

02:40:23.000 Oh, look at these elbows!

02:40:24.000 Okay, I'll wait then.

02:40:25.000 Dude, Ovin St. Prue's a monster.

02:40:27.000 Super athletic monster.

02:40:29.000 Oh, he's fucked up.

02:40:31.000 He's super fucked up.

02:40:33.000 OSB's about to win.

02:40:34.000 Glover's very good in these situations.

02:40:36.000 That's how he knocked out Ryan Bader.

02:40:37.000 Get that kick to the body, man.

02:40:39.000 Oh, run that pipe.

02:40:40.000 Run that pipe.

02:40:41.000 Look at this.

02:40:42.000 Straight to mount.

02:40:43.000 Straight to mount.

02:40:44.000 What?

02:40:44.000 Oh, goddamn.

02:40:45.000 Dude, are you kidding me right now?

02:40:46.000 That's Glover's ground game.

02:40:48.000 Oh, this is a crazy fight!

02:40:50.000 Hey, he's gonna roll.

02:40:51.000 There he goes.

02:40:52.000 He's gonna get his back.

02:40:52.000 But he's high.

02:40:53.000 He's high on the back, man.

02:40:54.000 He's high on the back.

02:40:54.000 Get behind the arms!

02:40:56.000 He's flattening him out.

02:40:57.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:40:58.000 Dude, are you kidding me right now?

02:41:00.000 He likes that arm triangle.

02:41:02.000 Oh, boy.

02:41:03.000 Look at this goddamn ground game.

02:41:06.000 There's a lot of time left.

02:41:07.000 He will.

02:41:10.000 I hear you, dude, but you gotta be impressed with Glover here, no?

02:41:12.000 You're not impressed?

02:41:15.000 Yes.

02:41:15.000 Dude, this is wicked.

02:41:16.000 And plus, he was tested here.

02:41:18.000 I love Owens' left kick, man.

02:41:20.000 Me too.

02:41:21.000 It also got him taken down, though.

02:41:22.000 So I didn't love it.

02:41:23.000 It did, but the one before is what started off that combination that had Glover hurt.

02:41:27.000 For sure you can't just do this.

02:41:29.000 He's gonna roll his back and get out.

02:41:30.000 Ooh, he's too high.

02:41:31.000 He's gotta stand up.

02:41:33.000 He's good control, though, man.

02:41:34.000 Stand up.

02:41:35.000 Stand up.

02:41:37.000 There's a little critical moment here, right?

02:41:39.000 Stand up!

02:41:40.000 Stand up!

02:41:41.000 What do you do here?

02:41:42.000 Oven needs to stand right now.

02:41:44.000 Hand fight and stand.

02:41:44.000 Because he only has one hook in.

02:41:46.000 Stand and hand fight.

02:41:47.000 He's trying to create that opening.

02:41:49.000 Trying to create that opening.

02:41:50.000 Go, Oveny!

02:41:51.000 Go!

02:41:53.000 Oh, damn!

02:41:54.000 No, get up now!

02:41:54.000 Oh, shit!

02:41:55.000 He got up.

02:41:56.000 He's about to get taken down.

02:41:57.000 Damn, that was crucial.

02:41:58.000 That was like a movie right there.

02:42:00.000 Yeah, but I'll tell you what.

02:42:00.000 Ovens landed some fucking hard shots while he was trying to take him down earlier.

02:42:04.000 There ain't no picnic standing up with him.

02:42:06.000 Fuck, no.

02:42:06.000 And if you separate that left kick to the body and to the head...

02:42:10.000 Oh, on the feet, OSP's better.

02:42:12.000 I think.

02:42:13.000 He's dangerous.

02:42:14.000 Way more dangerous.

02:42:15.000 Because all Glover does is he's like a really good Rampage who can grapple is what I think.

02:42:21.000 Well, it's also Ovens has those two big knockouts over Shogun and Cummins.

02:42:24.000 Dude, he's got great takedowns.

02:42:25.000 You're right about his wrestling.

02:42:26.000 His wrestling is ridiculous.

02:42:28.000 I'm telling you, it's so fucking good.

02:42:30.000 Oh, he's a beast, man.

02:42:32.000 But look at Ovens looking for the fucking Paul Harris.

02:42:34.000 That's what we're going to call it from now on.

02:42:35.000 It's not the Kimura anymore.

02:42:36.000 It's the Paul Harris.

02:42:37.000 He's using that Kimura to recover, too.

02:42:39.000 He is the Kimura to recover.

02:42:41.000 Oh, he's at Mount.

02:42:42.000 Oh, shit.

02:42:42.000 I thought he was an half guard.

02:42:43.000 Shit.

02:42:44.000 I got him to right to Mount.

02:42:44.000 Damn.

02:42:45.000 Again, this is exhausting for Ovens and Prue.

02:42:48.000 Super exhausting.

02:42:49.000 Especially if you're not a grappler.

02:42:50.000 You could wind up in guard here.

02:42:51.000 Oh, look at that!

02:42:53.000 Pass!

02:42:54.000 Pass!

02:42:54.000 That was some serious top game right there.

02:42:58.000 Alvin St. Prue loves the Von Flew.

02:42:59.000 Yeah, he does.

02:43:00.000 Pass to do it!

02:43:01.000 Yep, he's almost there.

02:43:02.000 It's open.

02:43:03.000 It's over.

02:43:04.000 He might get the Von Flew here.

02:43:06.000 He might get it.

02:43:07.000 That's his shit.

02:43:08.000 There you go, son!

02:43:11.000 Glover's going out.

02:43:12.000 He's going out.

02:43:13.000 Sometimes the glove's stuck.

02:43:15.000 No, Glover's smart.

02:43:16.000 He's turning away from it.

02:43:18.000 Wow, this is close though.

02:43:20.000 You know what I would do here?

02:43:21.000 Look at this man, he's stuck!

02:43:25.000 I jump in the top half, go lock down and let the guy get on top of me and I finish from my back.

02:43:30.000 It's easier from the back.

02:43:31.000 What do you do, Eddie?

02:43:32.000 I jump in the top half, they take it, I lock down their legs in advance, let them roll on top of me and it's easier from the back with the lockdown.

02:43:39.000 So this position right here, even Vaughn Flew, Vaughn Flew is easier from the lockdown?

02:43:43.000 Yep.

02:43:43.000 Wow, he lost it.

02:43:45.000 Oh man, Ovin St. Proust swings.

02:43:47.000 Wow, what a fight!

02:43:48.000 What a fight!

02:43:49.000 Don't kick!

02:43:49.000 Are you kidding me?

02:43:50.000 Are you kidding me?

02:43:51.000 Kick, please.

02:43:52.000 Kick.

02:43:52.000 His kicks are awesome.

02:43:54.000 That's a bad idea.

02:43:56.000 That's a horrible idea.

02:43:57.000 He's such an athlete.

02:43:59.000 The way he moves, he's got so much fucking horsepower behind him.

02:44:03.000 He does, but at this level.

02:44:05.000 Look at his ass.

02:44:05.000 Kim Kardashian ass.

02:44:07.000 That's a Kim Kardashian ass.

02:44:08.000 Maybe after she goes to Brazil for one of them surgeries.

02:44:10.000 That critter gots a shitter on him, for sure.

02:44:12.000 Hey!

02:44:14.000 That critter's got a shitter, sir.

02:44:16.000 Do you mind?

02:44:17.000 Oh, you didn't.

02:44:18.000 Son of a bitch.

02:44:20.000 Son of a bitch.

02:44:21.000 Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to...

02:44:23.000 Who is this?

02:44:24.000 Some dude who runs fast and high-five signs.

02:44:27.000 He's an actor.

02:44:28.000 Montel Williams is in it.

02:44:31.000 Some zombie movie?

02:44:32.000 Is this the Day of the Dead or some shit?

02:44:34.000 Is this the new Walking Dead one?

02:44:35.000 Bro, Montel Williams is not in it.

02:44:36.000 Is that what this is?

02:44:37.000 No.

02:44:38.000 You know there's a new Walking Dead.

02:44:40.000 Rosewood.

02:44:40.000 Is it called Rise of the Dead?

02:44:42.000 I don't know.

02:44:43.000 For sure kind of switch it up though.

02:44:44.000 Well, the idea is to keep it as close as possible because it's the same writers.

02:44:48.000 They're going to have like a chain of them.

02:44:50.000 Gotcha.

02:44:50.000 Yeah.

02:44:50.000 It's something super close like Run of the Dead or Jog of the Dead.

02:44:53.000 It's smart, man, because everybody who loves that show can't get enough of it.

02:44:57.000 I can't get enough of that show.

02:44:58.000 I saw the first two seasons.

02:44:59.000 Is that good?

02:45:00.000 Walking Dead?

02:45:00.000 Really?

02:45:01.000 I need a show.

02:45:01.000 So fun.

02:45:02.000 Zombies?

02:45:03.000 I love it.

02:45:03.000 Let me ask you this though, Rogan.

02:45:05.000 Let me ask you this.

02:45:05.000 I couldn't get into it.

02:45:06.000 Huh?

02:45:07.000 What?

02:45:07.000 The new one takes place here in LA. Well, the old one took place in Atlanta.

02:45:10.000 There's no black zombies in Walking Dead.

02:45:13.000 It's in Atlanta, son.

02:45:14.000 Well, they pale up.

02:45:15.000 They pale up once they die.

02:45:16.000 They do pale up.

02:45:17.000 There's a few black ones, actually.

02:45:19.000 But there would be a lot more if it's in Atlanta.

02:45:21.000 You're dead right.

02:45:21.000 Dude, he's dead right.

02:45:23.000 That shit gets super racist.

02:45:24.000 Sam Cruz got real problematic.

02:45:26.000 That is a big, strong man.

02:45:28.000 Look at his ass.

02:45:29.000 His ass is ridiculous.

02:45:29.000 He played for Tennessee Volunteers.

02:45:31.000 It's that kick to the body.

02:45:32.000 His kicks are nasty, man.

02:45:34.000 He's got so much power behind him.

02:45:36.000 Ouch.

02:45:37.000 And he's another guy that just gets more and more efficient.

02:45:39.000 He loves that uppercut, too.

02:45:41.000 He gets more and more efficient.

02:45:42.000 By the way, Glover is a hell of a boxer.

02:45:45.000 Glover's more technical when he throws real short shots.

02:45:47.000 There's that fucking kick again.

02:45:49.000 There's that fucking kick!

02:45:49.000 You got a good point, but look, Vince, same group.

02:45:52.000 Back to his feet.

02:45:53.000 It's going to come down to cardio.

02:45:54.000 It's going to come down to cardio.

02:45:56.000 And you know what?

02:45:56.000 It looks like Glover has good cards.

02:45:59.000 OSP's never been in dangerous rounds, like championship rounds.

02:46:02.000 Glover's never been knocked out, right?

02:46:03.000 Well, Glover's starting to slow down, or excuse me, OSP's starting to slow down a little bit here, and we're at four minutes.

02:46:08.000 He just looked at the clock.

02:46:09.000 It's a lot of muscle to feed oxygen, too.

02:46:11.000 That's a sign of weakness.

02:46:11.000 A lot of muscle to feed oxygen, too.

02:46:13.000 Ooh, good body shots.

02:46:14.000 He's got to be aware of what he's doing, because he's exploding.

02:46:17.000 He's not as mechanically efficient as Glover is.

02:46:18.000 Glover's a better boxer.

02:46:19.000 He keeps looking at the clock.

02:46:21.000 That's a bad sign, man.

02:46:22.000 You know what?

02:46:23.000 Glover's just wasting less time movement, but the movement that OSP does has so much pop behind it.

02:46:29.000 You can only do that for so long, though, no matter how athletic you are.

02:46:32.000 Yep, that's the difference.

02:46:33.000 And getting taken down.

02:46:34.000 He's going for a ride right here.

02:46:36.000 And Glover's so strong.

02:46:38.000 You see him smile?

02:46:39.000 He's smiling.

02:46:40.000 He's smiling, son.

02:46:41.000 He's like, I'm winning this bitch.

02:46:42.000 You know what?

02:46:43.000 He's wearing his ass out.

02:46:44.000 Yeah, he's a better fighter.

02:46:46.000 Eddie Bravo?

02:46:46.000 Eddie Bravo, you want to check your cash?

02:46:48.000 You want to do check or cash?

02:46:49.000 200 right now.

02:46:49.000 I'll give you 200 right now.

02:46:51.000 And then we call it.

02:46:53.000 200 cash?

02:46:54.000 200 cash?

02:46:55.000 200 cash right now.

02:46:56.000 Don't let them honey take you, brother.

02:46:57.000 Take the money.

02:46:58.000 Deal.

02:46:59.000 Deal.

02:46:59.000 Oh, shit.

02:47:00.000 Deal.

02:47:00.000 Take the money.

02:47:02.000 Sure?

02:47:02.000 Wait a minute.

02:47:03.000 Come on, the fight's still going on.

02:47:04.000 Yeah, man.

02:47:04.000 No, that's part of the deal.

02:47:05.000 We didn't make the deal right now.

02:47:07.000 We cash out.

02:47:08.000 Cash out.

02:47:09.000 This is the only time we ever pay each other.

02:47:11.000 And he cut his losses.

02:47:12.000 And he cut his losses.

02:47:12.000 The only time we ever really pay each other.

02:47:14.000 Damage control.

02:47:15.000 You chew your own foot off, but you still got your life.

02:47:18.000 Well, you don't want to get in a cardio fight with OSP. He's not going to win that one.

02:47:22.000 Be not explosive.

02:47:23.000 Yeah, it didn't look good.

02:47:24.000 It's the second round.

02:47:25.000 It doesn't look good.

02:47:25.000 So I think I made out.

02:47:28.000 Well, would if OSP just can kind of chillax down here and take a little breaky-poo and just defend himself well?

02:47:33.000 Tough to do when you're eating elbows.

02:47:35.000 When you're eating elbows.

02:47:36.000 That's true.

02:47:37.000 To share our elbows is very tough to do.

02:47:39.000 I don't have the money with me right now.

02:47:41.000 You know what?

02:47:45.000 I don't have the money now.

02:47:47.000 I can come back later.

02:47:48.000 Let's go.

02:47:50.000 Let's come back again and start over.

02:47:52.000 I'll spot you, baby.

02:47:53.000 How about this, Eddie?

02:47:54.000 How about you make an alternative bet?

02:47:56.000 Since you're going to let him out.

02:47:57.000 I don't have all the money.

02:47:58.000 I have like $73.

02:47:59.000 How about you bet?

02:48:00.000 I owe you.

02:48:01.000 How about you bet whether or not OSP makes it past five?

02:48:04.000 Is he going to make it past the fifth round?

02:48:05.000 I like that!

02:48:06.000 No, he's going to get finished.

02:48:07.000 He's going to get finished.

02:48:08.000 I'll tell you right now, not a shot.

02:48:09.000 Hey, double or nothing, Eddie.

02:48:10.000 Not a shot?

02:48:11.000 Not a shot he goes past.

02:48:12.000 I'll take anybody's bet.

02:48:13.000 Not a shot he lasts.

02:48:14.000 Me too.

02:48:15.000 I'll bet at two grand he doesn't make it.

02:48:17.000 Hey, by the way, I say he doesn't last until round three.

02:48:19.000 He's just too tired.

02:48:20.000 How much do you want to bet?

02:48:21.000 And we could annul that last bet and go back to the original one if I feel, oh, he's coming back.

02:48:26.000 I'll make you the offer.

02:48:28.000 You have a right to refusal, okay?

02:48:31.000 But I'm going to give you the option.

02:48:32.000 We'll just add it to the next companion.

02:48:34.000 Because if he starts coming back, I'll go, we annul this shit.

02:48:38.000 We'll see.

02:48:39.000 But right now we're good.

02:48:42.000 That's incredible.

02:48:43.000 I think OSP TKO third round.

02:48:47.000 Okay.

02:48:47.000 Gets TKO'd in the third round.

02:48:48.000 Okay, Brian, is that what you think, too?

02:48:50.000 Fuck yeah!

02:48:51.000 Who wants to give me a good bet that it goes the full five?

02:48:55.000 Not a shot.

02:48:55.000 I'll bet you anything you want.

02:48:56.000 Really?

02:48:57.000 Oh, yeah.

02:48:57.000 Can you give me ten to one?

02:48:59.000 I sometimes fight.

02:49:00.000 Ten to one?

02:49:01.000 Ten to one.

02:49:02.000 All right.

02:49:02.000 Ten to one.

02:49:03.000 A hundred dollars?

02:49:03.000 Oh, damn.

02:49:03.000 So you get a thousand?

02:49:05.000 No, I don't want to bet that much.

02:49:06.000 A hundred dollars?

02:49:07.000 A dollar to win ten.

02:49:08.000 I'm looking at Max Weinberg profits.

02:49:09.000 Damn, he's going for an electric chair right now.

02:49:10.000 Bro!

02:49:14.000 I'll bet you 10 to win 100. I'm not taking the money anyway.

02:49:18.000 Glover's beating his ass, though.

02:49:19.000 That's for fuck sure.

02:49:20.000 Damn, come on.

02:49:20.000 He's hitting him with some serious ground.

02:49:22.000 Oh, he's cutting him up with that elbow.

02:49:24.000 That elbow is nasty.

02:49:27.000 No, third round, it's over.

02:49:28.000 Unless he knocks him out.

02:49:29.000 See, this is the Glover that beat Ryan Bader.

02:49:31.000 This is the Glover that was making his run at the title.

02:49:33.000 He's a beast.

02:49:34.000 People slept on him a little bit in this fight.

02:49:36.000 His grappling is so underrated.

02:49:38.000 OSP's getting up now.

02:49:39.000 So, Ovin St. Pru's the underdog in this fight, correct?

02:49:41.000 No, he's the favorite.

02:49:42.000 Oh my god, who made those odds?

02:49:44.000 Look at that!

02:49:44.000 He's getting up here!

02:49:45.000 He's got the underhook.

02:49:46.000 I would've thought they'd be even money, quite honestly.

02:49:48.000 It was almost even.

02:49:49.000 It was like plus 105. There he goes!

02:49:51.000 Look!

02:49:51.000 Oh shit!

02:49:52.000 Oh shit!

02:49:53.000 It's bad!

02:49:54.000 He's bad!

02:49:55.000 He's gonna get taken down.

02:49:56.000 He's gonna get his ass slammed again.

02:49:57.000 Glover's getting tired now.

02:49:58.000 He's so tired.

02:49:59.000 They're both so tired.

02:50:00.000 You know what Glover said?

02:50:01.000 He said in the Phil Davis fight in Brazil, he just didn't cut the weight right and he was exhausted.

02:50:05.000 So he just got fucking grappled for five rounds.

02:50:08.000 Was also a lot of people felt like, you know, he didn't go to American Top Team for that fight.

02:50:11.000 He stayed in Connecticut and trained in his garage.

02:50:13.000 Dude, there's a long time.

02:50:14.000 He did his camp in Connecticut this time too, I thought.

02:50:16.000 Look at this.

02:50:17.000 He's back!

02:50:18.000 He's back!

02:50:19.000 He's back!

02:50:19.000 Look!

02:50:20.000 Oh, shoot!

02:50:22.000 Glover's tired as fuck.

02:50:23.000 Oh, shit!

02:50:24.000 He's back!

02:50:24.000 Oh, shit, son!

02:50:25.000 Okay, I'll take the bet back.

02:50:26.000 Glover, smile!

02:50:27.000 I'll take the bet back.

02:50:28.000 You want to go back?

02:50:28.000 You want to revert?

02:50:30.000 Sure.

02:50:30.000 You want to revert?

02:50:31.000 Relive it!

02:50:32.000 Relive it, you fucks!

02:50:33.000 You fucks!

02:50:34.000 We're going back.

02:50:35.000 The bet is back on.

02:50:36.000 Thank God Eddie Bravo didn't pay out.

02:50:38.000 Guys, guys, we're back.

02:50:39.000 We're fucking back.

02:50:40.000 I'm eating a fucking Cheeto.

02:50:41.000 You know what?

02:50:42.000 We're back.

02:50:43.000 I lost faith, and I'm ashamed of that.

02:50:45.000 I'm ashamed of that.

02:50:46.000 You lost faith in your boy.

02:50:47.000 I am ashamed of that.

02:50:48.000 When you lose faith, you're looking at my eyes, and I give it back to you.

02:50:50.000 Look at my eyes, I give you strength.

02:50:52.000 I am ashamed of that.

02:50:53.000 But I feel now he's coming back, and he's going to take this, and you're going to owe me five.

02:50:57.000 Shit, he might after seeing that.

02:50:58.000 Let me explain to both of you guys.

02:51:00.000 I have one complaint.

02:51:00.000 Is there any way we can get more Ronda Rousey ads?

02:51:03.000 This is ridiculous.

02:51:04.000 I love it.

02:51:05.000 She's not that famous, though.

02:51:08.000 A little much.

02:51:10.000 She's a different kind of woman, man.

02:51:12.000 You know two guys that can handle her?

02:51:13.000 Two guys.

02:51:15.000 Thor and Hulk.

02:51:16.000 Demetrius Johnson.

02:51:17.000 I think I could.

02:51:18.000 He says Thor and Hulk.

02:51:20.000 Demetrius Johnson.

02:51:21.000 Captain America.

02:51:22.000 The Thing.

02:51:22.000 And Conor McGregor.

02:51:24.000 Not a chance.

02:51:24.000 I think Conor McGregor could handle her.

02:51:26.000 Not a chance.

02:51:27.000 She would eat him alive.

02:51:29.000 No way.

02:51:29.000 Are you kidding?

02:51:30.000 I could.

02:51:31.000 Are you kidding?

02:51:32.000 And I think Demetrius Johnson.

02:51:34.000 You can't because you're a super fan.

02:51:35.000 Which you would hate.

02:51:36.000 No, I would have sex with her a lot.

02:51:38.000 I would have sex with her a lot and I'd break her walls down and I'd be super nice to her and make a laugh.

02:51:42.000 Let's watch this fight.

02:51:43.000 Let's watch this fight.

02:51:44.000 Make a laugh and have sex with her.

02:51:45.000 This left kick of St. Bruce and surprise her with my piece.

02:51:49.000 Here we go.

02:51:50.000 Here it is.

02:51:51.000 Here we go.

02:51:52.000 By the way, Oven St. Pru might just pull this out.

02:51:55.000 Dude, he could pull it out.

02:51:56.000 He's exhausted.

02:51:57.000 If he gets taken down, he proves he's already proven that he can come back from being exhausted.

02:52:01.000 That's what I wanted to see.

02:52:02.000 He's not.

02:52:03.000 He could recover.

02:52:03.000 He recovers.

02:52:04.000 No, no, no.

02:52:05.000 He recovers.

02:52:06.000 He's hurt Glover.

02:52:08.000 Oven St. Pru has to run.

02:52:10.000 He has to do a lot of running.

02:52:11.000 He needs to get off the fucking cage.

02:52:13.000 His feints are beautiful.

02:52:14.000 Glover's footwork and his feints, he's staying just far enough that he knows what Ovens can do right now.

02:52:20.000 That's a bad idea.

02:52:21.000 He knows the amount of spring he's got left in his step.

02:52:24.000 He's calculating it well.

02:52:25.000 I think he's going to take him down again.

02:52:27.000 He's going to pop his hips to lift him up or trap his...

02:52:30.000 He's going to scoop him right in the fucking air.

02:52:32.000 That's what he's going to do.

02:52:32.000 Boom.

02:52:34.000 Oh, Vince.

02:52:35.000 Time to carry some weight.

02:52:36.000 Yeah.

02:52:36.000 He's going to get finished this round.

02:52:38.000 You got four minutes of this?

02:52:40.000 Eddie, would you like to go back?

02:52:41.000 It doesn't mean that he's going to be on the ground for four minutes.

02:52:43.000 No, no.

02:52:43.000 He's going to wear him out.

02:52:44.000 He's too tired to get up.

02:52:45.000 He's going to wear out Glover.

02:52:46.000 He's going to wear him out.

02:52:47.000 You think he's too tired to get up?

02:52:48.000 Yeah.

02:52:48.000 He's too tired.

02:52:49.000 It doesn't go past.

02:52:50.000 Third round.

02:52:51.000 I think he can still get up, man.

02:52:52.000 I'm not underestimating this guy.

02:52:54.000 This kid's got mad heart.

02:52:55.000 I think Ovens is a tough fucking dude, man.

02:52:58.000 I think he finishes him this round.

02:52:59.000 I think he's not as mechanically efficient as he can be in the future because he explodes so much in everything.

02:53:05.000 But I think that's also his strength.

02:53:06.000 He may be training wrong.

02:53:08.000 Well, it's also his strength.

02:53:09.000 He should talk to some boxers and run for a long time.

02:53:11.000 Yeah, maybe that would help for sure, but it's also something that he does to people they don't expect.

02:53:15.000 The amount of explosion that he jumps into stuff.

02:53:17.000 He's had success with that.

02:53:18.000 Yeah, it works, man.

02:53:19.000 Only to a certain level.

02:53:21.000 And then when you fight a vet, a true vet who has seen that, you don't think Glover's seen an explosive guy before?

02:53:26.000 Well, you know what the deal is?

02:53:27.000 He's got to be able to do both and got to know when to do each one.

02:53:30.000 In spots.

02:53:31.000 Yes.

02:53:31.000 You got to know when to do it.

02:53:32.000 When to do each one.

02:53:33.000 But I think right now, he's not quite as technically proficient as a guy like Glover, where Glover throws short combinations and they're smooth and efficient.

02:53:43.000 Yeah.

02:53:43.000 I think Ovens hasn't reached that level yet, but Ovens can hit fucking hard.

02:53:48.000 Ooh, he keeps working for that mount.

02:53:50.000 Look at that.

02:53:50.000 He's going to get finished.

02:53:53.000 Look at this shit.

02:53:55.000 Look at how you earn your money.

02:53:56.000 Such good control, man.

02:53:58.000 Glover's control is so good.

02:53:59.000 Not me, bro.

02:53:59.000 Don't say you.

02:54:00.000 That mount is so nasty.

02:54:03.000 I earn my money by saying dick jokes on The Fire and the Kid.

02:54:05.000 Good man, brother.

02:54:06.000 Once he got on top of Kyle Kingsborough, I could really see that mount.

02:54:10.000 I was like, ooh, that's a scary-ass fucking mount.

02:54:12.000 Yes.

02:54:14.000 He's strong as shit, too, man.

02:54:15.000 You know, the other thing about OSP, he's super strong.

02:54:17.000 The other thing about OSP, he doesn't train at a high-level camp.

02:54:20.000 Where's he train?

02:54:21.000 He trains in Tennessee at this...

02:54:23.000 Oh, my God.

02:54:24.000 He doesn't have, like, a lot of high-class training partners.

02:54:26.000 Oh, he's getting fucked up, dude.

02:54:27.000 He's getting fucked up.

02:54:28.000 He's gonna get finished.

02:54:29.000 Oh, oh, oh.

02:54:30.000 Oh, that's it.

02:54:31.000 What did I tell you?

02:54:32.000 Eddie Bravo, give me my 500. He's gonna tap.

02:54:35.000 Cash money.

02:54:37.000 He's gonna tap.

02:54:37.000 That's done.

02:54:38.000 That's too deep.

02:54:39.000 Way too deep.

02:54:39.000 That's too deep.

02:54:41.000 And he's going to sleep.

02:54:43.000 And let's...

02:54:45.000 He's out.

02:54:46.000 He's out.

02:54:47.000 He went out.

02:54:47.000 Wow.

02:54:48.000 Eddie, I'm sorry.

02:54:49.000 Dude.

02:54:50.000 I think I said third round submission.

02:54:51.000 Hey, respect to OSP. He was thinking about tapping and decided not to tap.

02:54:56.000 He's a bad motherfucker, man.

02:54:56.000 OSP's a bad motherfucker.

02:54:57.000 He decided not to tap.

02:54:57.000 He went out, man.

02:54:58.000 God bless him.

02:54:59.000 And look at how awesome Glover is.

02:55:01.000 Glover's like the nicest guy ever.

02:55:02.000 What a great guy.

02:55:03.000 Stone Cold Killer?

02:55:03.000 Nice guy.

02:55:04.000 What a fucking great guy.

02:55:05.000 What a crazy moment that is when a fighter decides not to tap.

02:55:09.000 It's pretty gangster.

02:55:10.000 Fuck.

02:55:11.000 Sometimes they don't know though.

02:55:12.000 You think you're like, you know, I'm gonna f- light down.

02:55:15.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:55:16.000 It's true.

02:55:17.000 It's true.

02:55:17.000 I've gotten choked out.

02:55:19.000 You're like, I'm gonna fight.

02:55:20.000 Look at this.

02:55:21.000 Look at this combination.

02:55:22.000 Mitrion gave a thumbs up when I'm in a dars.

02:55:24.000 That's a cool story, bro.

02:55:26.000 Look at this.

02:55:26.000 Fucking right here, man.

02:55:28.000 And then watch when he cinches it up onto the bicep.

02:55:30.000 Like, why wouldn't you tap though?

02:55:31.000 He's not even fighting.

02:55:32.000 He's trying to fight in the one hand.

02:55:34.000 He's trying to fight.

02:55:35.000 Glover's got that squeeze, son.

02:55:37.000 And that's where a guy like McCarthy is so important.

02:55:39.000 John McCarthy is so fucking awesome.

02:55:41.000 I love that guy.

02:55:42.000 He's the best.

02:55:44.000 Legit Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt, too.

02:55:46.000 He knows exactly what's going on there.

02:55:47.000 And he trains.

02:55:48.000 Fuck.

02:55:50.000 You know what?

02:55:50.000 This is good for OSB, though, man.

02:55:52.000 Two minutes?

02:55:53.000 We're done.

02:55:53.000 Yeah, hey, perfect timing.

02:55:55.000 What a fucking fight companion.

02:55:56.000 Great for OSB. Yeah.

02:55:57.000 We'll learn from this.

02:55:58.000 Eddie owe me $500.

02:55:59.000 We'll do it for the next fight companion.

02:56:01.000 Are you guys going to be here next weekend?

02:56:02.000 EBI is next weekend.

02:56:03.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:56:04.000 You going to be here?

02:56:05.000 Next Saturday, yeah.

02:56:05.000 Oh, shit.

02:56:05.000 You going?

02:56:06.000 You going to be here next Saturday?

02:56:07.000 If you give me an invite, I'll go.

02:56:08.000 Absolutely.

02:56:09.000 VIP tickets.

02:56:10.000 Brian Callen.

02:56:10.000 Son.

02:56:12.000 If you're listening, I got a submission-only jiu-jitsu tournament going on next Saturday.

02:56:17.000 It's going to be on BudoVideos.com Saturday night.

02:56:19.000 We'll be tweeting about it all next week.

02:56:21.000 Yeah, we'll all tweet about it.

02:56:22.000 You can go to YouTube and search EBI4 Countdown Show on YouTube, and then that'll explain what it's all about.

02:56:29.000 Yeehaw, fucks.

02:56:31.000 Eddie Bravo on Twitter, 10thPlanetJJ.com.

02:56:37.000 Instagram, TheRealEddieBravo.

02:56:38.000 Yeah.

02:56:39.000 The Real Eddie Bravo Instagram.

02:56:40.000 Don't go to Eddie Bravo.

02:56:41.000 Big time.

02:56:41.000 Somebody ganked his shit.

02:56:43.000 Some super fan.

02:56:44.000 Too famous.

02:56:45.000 Brian Callen with a Y. B-R-I-A-N Callen.

02:56:48.000 The Fighter and the Kid podcast.

02:56:50.000 The formerly of the Brian Callen experience.

02:56:53.000 Brennan Schaub.

02:56:55.000 Brennan Schaub on Twitter.

02:56:56.000 The Fighter and the Kid.

02:56:56.000 Watch the Fighter and the Kid.

02:56:57.000 And when are you going to bring back Eddie Bravo Radio?

02:56:59.000 Is that going to happen?

02:57:00.000 That's coming.

02:57:00.000 Eddie, come on the Fighter and the Kid.

02:57:02.000 Also, first Fighter and the Kid live.

02:57:05.000 First Fighter and the Kid live.

02:57:07.000 Brea Improv.

02:57:07.000 Tickets are on sale.

02:57:09.000 BreaImprov.com.

02:57:10.000 Thank you guys.

02:57:10.000 I'd love to be on your show, God damn it.

02:57:12.000 Let's do it.

02:57:13.000 I love it.

02:57:13.000 Make it happen.

02:57:14.000 We love you, so we'll have you on.

02:57:15.000 Are you kidding me?

02:57:15.000 We love doing these things, and we appreciate all the positive energy that we get for you guys.

02:57:20.000 We get super psyched when you guys get psyched that we do these.

02:57:23.000 We get fired up.

02:57:24.000 These are so much fun, because we are 100% ourselves on these things, and get to fuck off and have fun.

02:57:31.000 It's a very unusual thing to be able to do, so I appreciate the fuck out of you guys.

02:57:35.000 This is an awesome show.

02:57:36.000 We love you, man.

02:57:37.000 That's my favorite.

02:57:38.000 The wine, the weed.

02:57:39.000 We've all known each other.

02:57:40.000 I've known you guys for 20 years almost now.

02:57:43.000 How about that?

02:57:44.000 It's been awesome.

02:57:44.000 How about that?

02:57:45.000 We're so lucky.

02:57:46.000 That's, I think, one of the most important things in life is having cool friends.

02:57:49.000 That's why I drove to the comedy store yesterday.

02:57:52.000 I had no other reason.

02:57:53.000 I said, maybe Joe's there.

02:57:54.000 I see you right in the parking lot.

02:57:56.000 I got out and we hang out for two hours just talking.

02:57:58.000 We take pleasure.

02:57:59.000 They always say the coolest shit is the shit you don't expect, the shit you didn't plan for.

02:58:03.000 And, like, this crew, we didn't plan this shit.

02:58:06.000 It kind of just happened.

02:58:07.000 We're probably in a fucking tonight.

02:58:08.000 You know what I mean, guys?

02:58:10.000 And on that note, ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much.

02:58:14.000 See you guys soon.

02:58:15.000 Bye.

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Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - August 8, 2015

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