Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - February 17, 2019
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Comedian and comedian Brendan Shaw joins Jemele to talk about his time at the Comedy Store, his love for the UFC, and why he doesn t want to be a security guard at a strip club. The guys also talk about the UFC Card, UFC 246, and the upcoming UFC Fight Night Card. Also, the guys debate who they think is the greatest UFC fighter of all time and who they believe is the best heavyweight in the history of the sport, and much, much more! Subscribe, Like, and Share to stay up to date on all things UFC 246 and the future of the UFC. Subscribe and Share on your favorite streaming platform so you don't miss out on any of the latest UFC news, fights, or anything else going on in the world of sports. You can't ask for much more. Enjoy, and spread the word to your friends and family about this podcast! Cheers, Joe Rogan and Friends! -The Joe Rogans Podcast -Jon Sorrentino & Jonny LoQuasto - This episode was brought to you by Droga5.co.nz/TheJoe Rogan Podcast -This episode was produced and edited by Jonny Rogan. -Our theme song is by Suneaters and our ad music is by Mavus White. Our ad music comes live on this episode is by Fountains of Brooklyn Records. If you like what you hear, please leave us a review on Apple Music and we'll get a shoutout on the rest of our social media platforms, we'll be giving you a shout-out in the next episode of the podcast, too! . Thank you for listening to the podcast. if you review the podcast and reviewing the podcast in the podcast on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe? Subscribe to our podcast and subscribe to us on Podchaser. and share the podcast? Thanks for listening and sharing it! and rating/tweet us your thoughts on the podcast review and review it on your Insta story on Insta or share it on the pod? or your thoughts about it's a review or review on Instagrasm? , etc. or any other podcast you're a review is a review, etc. etc. Thank you're rating and review is appreciated! -- Thank you, Jonny's Reviewed & review is is a big thank you!
Transcript
00:00:11.000
Brendan Shaw with the official Comedy Store jersey on.
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Dude, you'd be head of security if you were working the door.
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They're good if you've been doing stand-up forever.
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Fuck, yeah, they're good if you're Dave Chappelle.
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Well, the thing about that is, like, it's also good for you to be in front of a tired, small crowd.
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Like, a tired, small crowd is good to test out shit.
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I did a spot, an unannounced spot, the other night at the comedy store in the OR. It was, like, half-packed.
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It was fairly late, but people were beaten down.
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And even though he was really famous and everything like that when he was doing this, still is, right?
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But when he would show up, what he liked is that they weren't there to see him.
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So then he would get a more honest response to his material.
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Like when you go on, like the guys that go on, the actors that go on, like Jimmy Fallon or Jimmy Kimmel or whatever, like anything they say, anything they say, the crowd is just, they got that applause sign ready to go.
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You know what's really hilarious when you watch those guys try to do stand-up?
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When they get it in their head that they can't, you know, like, come on, I can't fail.
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Michael Rappaport is getting pretty fucking sporty.
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I saw him do a couple of minutes the other day, and he seemed like a real comic.
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And I know he's only been doing it for like a little bit.
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I saw him once, and he was struggling a little bit, but it could have just been the crowd.
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But then I saw him recently, and I'm like, damn.
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Not on ESPN+. This is on ESPN ESPN, which is huge for the sport.
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My vote for the best heavyweight in the UFC ever.
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Fabrizio Verdum, what a fucking record that guy has.
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There's a good argument for Verdum being one of the greatest of all time.
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Because he tapped Minotaro, tapped Kane, tapped Fedor.
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I mean, who the fuck has tapped all those guys?
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But as far as what I've seen from when he's in his prime, outside of all his injuries, Kane at one point in time was just a storm.
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We were backstage, and I was talking to Bob Cook, and I was like, people want to try to ride that storm out.
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Remember when he beat JDS when it was JDS and beat the brakes off of him?
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Kane had a really fucked up knee in that fight.
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First round, Miles Jury, Andre Feely, and then of course Kane's fighting the scariest motherfucker in the history of the sport.
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Well, after Stipe, Stipe kind of exposed some holes in his game, but the guy's only been fighting for a few years.
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Stipe did expose, but to Francis' credit, he fucking ate some big shots at Stipe, and he took it and lasted all five rounds.
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And he came back and had a terrible fight with Derek Lewis, but Derek Lewis is a beast.
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It was a bad fight, but then came back and stopped Curtis Blades.
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Worst fight, Derek Lewis Francis, which we thought there was going to be fireworks, or Paul Daly MVP last night.
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It wasn't good, but it was better than Francis vs.
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Paul Daly was able to take down MVP? Which is not good for MVP. MVP took him down.
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It's not good for MVP. Imagine what Tyron Woodley would do to MVP. Imagine.
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Well, he doesn't have to worry about it because he's a mentor.
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But with John Fitch, though, he's got to be able to grab a hold of him.
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The thing about Paul Daly is he fucking threatens the shit out of you with that power.
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But what I like about Page is that I've always said that one day we're going to see a guy who's a point fighter who learns how to do other shit.
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Because their whole thing is lunging in and lunging out, lunging in and lunging out.
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Wonderboy a little bit, but he's more of a kickboxer than a point fighter.
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What you see from MVP is like one of the best point fighters that's ever even attempted to fight in MMA. He doesn't get touched.
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Raymond Daniels was another one who was a legit, world-class point fighter.
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And MVP's undefeated in professional boxing, too.
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The first real fight that he had was last night against Daly.
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But it's still way too easy for Daly to take him down.
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But what's crazy is that Daly was talking so much shit on John Fitch after John Fitch took him down.
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Dude, Daly, all he did is talk shit about guys wrestling.
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He did this sneaky right hand that he hit him with.
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He tried to hit him with a hook kick at one point in time.
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If he gets his wrestling takedown defense on point, I mean, he's a phenomenal athlete.
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But he goes to London Shoot Fighters, great goddamn gym.
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The thing that he's missing, you know, I mean, is just the wrestling takedown defense.
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Like, if you could take a page out of Stylebender's book.
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Like, you look at Stylebender, I'm not too worried about him fighting a grappler.
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Very tough takedown, and you're coming in, you're going to pay.
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He might be the most tactical striker in the sport.
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I was working out watching some old Glory fights with Stylebender when he fought Jason Willness.
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Dude, how about Roy Nelson and Krokop fought last night?
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Why are you talking about Roy Nelson and Roy Jones?
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I bet Roy Nelson hits harder than Roy Jones right now.
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Yeah, I think if you had him on that power meter, I think Roy probably hits harder.
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Roy Jones Jr. is probably about 200 pounds these days.
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Well, when he was at his heaviest, he was about 200, right?
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When he fought John Ruiz, won the heavyweight title?
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When you watch that, I mean, that was just artistry, speed, and precision versus, you know, a world champion, John Ruiz, who's a real good fighter.
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But Roy Jones was, at that time, you know, the big fucker, the big fuck-up, rather, was going from that fight, dropping down to fight Tarver at 175. Going back down.
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And also, Tarver and him had gone to a decision in one fight earlier, and Tarver thought he won.
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And Roy apparently had something to say about why he didn't perform at his best.
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So when they were faced off tonight, and the referee goes, any questions?
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You got Fury and you got Wilder rematch coming up in May.
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When you were talking at the beginning of the show, it wasn't my crowd.
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I always have to watch fights when I get back home.
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We don't see each other, so we gotta catch up and shit.
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Dude, I thought Francis was going to go to a new camp, and I saw he's just training full-time in France.
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I'm like, not the best wrestling in France, but we'll figure it out.
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You'd want him to go to two places, in my opinion.
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I'd want him to go to either ATT or AKA. ATT, they've got enough heavyweights, and they have a phenomenal coaching staff.
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But you want someone big to work with, and AKA, they're not really going to probably take them.
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Or go to Elevation Fight Team, where you got Curtis Blades and Overeem, who he's fought, both of them.
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And you got great coaching at the altitude there.
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You know, the thing about that altitude training is it's really interesting.
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I was talking to TJ Dillashaw, and he used to think that altitude training was where it's at until he started working with Calavita.
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And then when you come to C-level, you're like, fuck, I can do work, man.
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Yeah, so what they're saying is the amount of reps, the amount of work you do.
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What he's doing with Calavita is fucking phenomenal.
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The podcast I did with him was one of the most informative podcasts I've ever done with a fighter in terms of how technical his training routine is, his diet is, how everything is broken down to a science as far as what to do when and when to do what.
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Unless someone's on it and they're not talking about it, but when TJ talks about it, yeah, there's no one more in tune with their body than TJ. That fucking Aaron Pico, and he's getting on that same level, because he trains with them, but I asked TJ, I'm like, why didn't he just follow you around?
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He's like, dude, he has all these people kind of pulling him every which way.
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Do you ever see the video of us watching him lose?
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That could have been one of the most viral videos on Instagram in that week.
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Anyone who trains with Sterling, I guess in the training room, he's a freak.
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He's the motherfucker I want to see fight for the title.
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The way he looked against the Sun Tzau when he finished the Sun Tzau?
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You beat him with a close decision if you're lucky.
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I asked TJ about it, and he's like, yeah, I'd fight on him, but all they care about is the Cejudo rematch.
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That's not a good move because he could push off the cage with his feet and cause a scramble.
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Yeah, because someone was talking about Anderson versus Nick, and Connor said, I'll fight Nate on the same card.
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And then Nick said, yeah, I'm not fighting anybody.
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He was one of the youngest guys to ever fight in the UFC. I believe he beat Robbie Lawler when he was 20. Dude, you look at his resume, it's impressive.
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The guys that he's fought, he's been doing for a hot second.
00:17:08.000
The focus on Anthony Smith, it's a Jon Jones thing.
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I don't know anyone in light heavyweight or heavyweight that would beat Jon Jones.
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Like, name a tough matchup for him at heavyweight.
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If he goes, you know what, I'm a fucking heavyweight now.
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If he gets up to like jackmified like he was when he was powerlifting.
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But the thing about that is though, like, you know, I talked to Greg Jackson about that and Greg was saying that he didn't like him when he was powerlifting like that.
00:18:02.000
Rashad's 70. It's more of Rashad, whether Rashad should have been fighting.
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I think Rashad's heart wasn't in the game anymore.
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He reaches out to me when things are going bad or I'm having an issue.
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I mean look, when he knocked out Chuck Liddell with one punch, he started doing the heart thing.
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He was like, I will never forget that because he knocked him out and then he beat Forrest Griffin.
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Do you know what he's doing when he does the heart thing?
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But I remember Rashad knocked out for us and he was training with us and came back to the gym.
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And at the time, I wasn't in the UFC yet and I was like, dude, you have the belt.
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And he was like, I feel exactly the same, Brendan.
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I thought it would be everything and more and I feel exactly the same, dude.
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He's almost kind of like, it's not all that it's meant to be.
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You think you get to the top of the mountain and it's everything, but he's like, I feel like I'm back here training.
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Do you remember when he coached against Rampage?
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Dude, when they were in front of each other, you a bitch.
00:20:06.000
That whole show was like, fucking, everyone's going to pop off at any second.
00:20:31.000
It's at 135, 134, 133, 132, 131 of the third round in the first fight.
00:20:41.000
It's good that we don't give people expectations of what we're going to do here when we do Fike Opinions.
00:20:52.000
I look more forward to this than anything I do.
00:20:53.000
Yeah, I mean, I love doing podcasts with scientists and geniuses and shit like that.
00:21:28.000
I was thinking of Eddie today because I don't have cable right now because I moved.
00:21:34.000
I was watching this Earth, Planet Earth and Will Smith is the narrator on it.
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It's all about Earth and they're like scanning up and it's astronauts talking about what they saw from space.
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The whole time I was thinking, God, Eddie must watch this.
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It would show how many hours they had in space.
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I was like, I bet Eddie's like, fuck these hoes.
00:22:06.000
But that's what Callen's good for, because he won't listen to us, and he'll watch it, and then be like, Miles Jury, two rounds to one.
00:22:19.000
I don't know, he didn't say, he just said his flight landed late.
00:22:44.000
They have one on Paramount and then they have one on DAZN. I watched it on DAZN on my phone.
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I was in Vegas for this event my daughter was doing.
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I had to run to the top of the stairs and watch that shit.
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We're supposed to talk some business about the show.
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Do you have DAZN? I have DAZN. They got a lot of good fights on that.
00:23:39.000
It's D-A-Z-N. Do you have to have cable to watch the fight?
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No, you can watch it on any internet connection.
00:23:48.000
Because Paramount Network, you have to have an account with DirecTV or some shit.
00:23:52.000
Yeah, but DAZN covers whatever Paramount fights have.
00:23:54.000
They need to get rid of that because people don't have TV no more.
00:23:58.000
Yeah, so they got to just have it just through your goddamn app I love TV. Don't make me get an app and then I gotta order fucking DirecTV too.
00:24:04.000
What's interesting is DAZN, they spent a shitload of money on Canelo Alvarez.
00:24:08.000
They signed him to some multiple hundred million dollar deal.
00:24:11.000
I think it's something like, it's like 300 million dollars or something like that?
00:24:14.000
Yeah, he's the highest paid athlete in the world.
00:24:17.000
Yeah, some insane amount of money over 10 fights, I believe it is.
00:24:33.000
What's interesting is if it's no pay-per-view, it's actually a really good deal, right?
00:24:41.000
I didn't pay attention to how much that shit costs.
00:24:49.000
You gotta think that if you're watching, say if you're watching a pay-per-view, like a big fight, like Wilder Fury 2, how much is that gonna cost?
00:25:08.000
I watch fights all the time while I'm working out.
00:25:10.000
It's the best thing to watch while you're working out.
00:25:14.000
I watched the whole Gordon Ryan series the other day.
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The whole little documentary they had, I watched that while I was working out.
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This Friday on UFC Fight Pass, 7pm Pacific Standard Time.
00:25:45.000
We're going to do Verdum, Gordon Ryan later on this year.
00:25:49.000
But it's a four-man combat jiu-jitsu absolute bracket with Yuri Samos, who's arguably one of the best Brazilian jiu-jitsu practitioners ever.
00:26:06.000
And then the second seed is John Thor Blank, who won EBI 17. He won the first and only 16-man combat jiu-jitsu tournament.
00:26:18.000
Every fight within two minutes, he subbed everybody.
00:26:21.000
So it's Yuri and John Thor Blank are the top two seeds.
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And then if they win their first fights, then they'll fight each other.
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So, on paper, it looks like it'll be Yuri and John Blank on paper.
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Plus, we got the best jujitsu girl that's ever lived.
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Only, only girl ever to win Abu Dhabi, IBJJF, Gia Nogia, black belt, and EBI. She hot.
00:27:03.000
She's fighting combat jiu-jitsu against Kayla Patterson.
00:27:21.000
When you go back and think about that cyborg fight, would you ever think about doing that again?
00:27:32.000
What do you think about Pettis fighting Wonderboy?
00:27:40.000
He goes from 45, can't make it anymore, all the way up to 70, 25 pounds.
00:27:44.000
Fucking, this is how much of a beast Pettis is.
00:27:51.000
Then fucking, he was like, you know what, fuck it.
00:27:59.000
But then he jumps up and he's fighting Wonderboy.
00:28:16.000
How about Max Holloway and Tony Ferguson talking shit to each other?
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He has a suspension, so he's out for a little bit.
00:28:36.000
He won't do that thing that Vegas is asking him to do.
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Conor and Cowboy is a done deal, as far as I know.
00:29:04.000
Conor and Cowboy is great, and Conor Tony is great.
00:29:24.000
Tony Conner, Conner would be a slight underdog, I think, in that fight.
00:29:29.000
So I think Tony, Max, because Conner needs to get a win.
00:29:34.000
I'm not saying Conner's going to be a huge favorite over Cowboy, but he's more favorable in that fight than he is against Tony.
00:29:40.000
So he needs a win before he comes back and fights.
00:29:57.000
Stylistically, that's a better fight for Cowboy and Conor.
00:30:21.000
Who is this and Samuel L. Jackson is a different superhero now?
00:30:23.000
Yeah, this was at the end of the Avengers movie.
00:30:31.000
Yeah, and she brings all of them back to life in the comics.
00:30:59.000
People get mad if you start chewing on the microphones.
00:31:25.000
Captain Marvel was a guy and a girl in the kitchen.
00:31:39.000
Captain Marvel 1956. That's why I was about the Spider-Verse movie that just came out.
00:31:44.000
It's like only a four-year-old Spider-Man story.
00:31:54.000
Yeah, but one of those Spider-Men is like a duck, right?
00:32:04.000
They should turn Bruce Lee into a superhero and give him powers.
00:32:33.000
And then he leaves the girlfriend because Han Solo pulls up in the Millennium Falcon or whatever.
00:32:41.000
This is the old Captain Marvel, but he was a gaming comics character.
00:32:51.000
Dude, if you held a gun to my head and asked me, is Shazam DC or Marvel, I would have said he's DC. For sure.
00:33:00.000
There was a Captain Marvel character in the DC Comics universe from back then.
00:33:04.000
I don't know if that's what you're remembering, but that's one that existed, so...
00:33:12.000
Is that like someone from Bellator fighting someone from the UFC? It's confusing, dude.
00:33:16.000
All I know is she comes back and you know how everyone died in the last one?
00:33:26.000
Do you remember in the Lego movie when Batman, he leaves his girl to jump in that Millennium Falcon with Han Solo and Chewbacca?
00:33:35.000
So he jumps and he thought he was going to party in space.
00:33:49.000
He goes, there's no chicks on the Millennium Falcon.
00:34:03.000
This picture is from 2012. Okay, but here's the deal.
00:34:09.000
It's a new thing now, because guys are into it.
00:34:19.000
That's 2012. Yeah, that's a UFC fighter chick right there.
00:34:26.000
So Captain Marvel, sometimes a guy, sometimes a girl.
00:34:35.000
There's so many superheroes that they have like 10 different ones on Netflix.
00:35:46.000
How is Francis going to solve Kane's wrestling or his cardio?
00:35:50.000
He's been training in France, so watch your talk.
00:35:56.000
He's been eating escargot and throwing nuclear weapons with his hands.
00:35:59.000
This may be true, and God is very dangerous, but I feel like he's got a one puncher's chance.
00:36:05.000
But everything else Kane does, including boxing, he's better at.
00:36:09.000
I'm just curious to see what he looks like now after all this time off, injury and all that.
00:36:15.000
Which one do you want me to open, B? You can open them all, my friend.
00:36:24.000
I won one Barolo and I decided to go California.
00:36:31.000
What do you think of that menage a trois I get from Ralph?
00:36:34.000
Oh, Luque just tagged Barbarino with a left hook.
00:36:42.000
If I look a little harder, it's because I was just at American Top Team with my friend, my good friend Dustin Poirier, Mike Brown, and Tiago Alves.
00:36:55.000
That's because I can't have any wasted space when I'm doing striking with Thiago Alves.
00:37:10.000
Yeah, he was getting some stem cells or something, wasn't he?
00:37:18.000
Super impressed with him against Justin Gaethje.
00:37:43.000
Dude, Barboza's going to go, you like leg kicks?
00:37:55.000
Tiago and Dustin were showing me those low kicks.
00:38:07.000
Look at Primas, what he did to Michael Chandler.
00:38:22.000
Yeah, you know, the thing about kicking the knee, it's hard to fuck your knee up.
00:38:25.000
Like, you can hyper-extend the knee with a sidekick.
00:38:28.000
You could fuck someone's knee up that way, but...
00:39:52.000
Guys, from a guy who trains a top team, I can tell you that's a fight.
00:39:55.000
American top team in Coconut Grove or wherever the fuck it is?
00:39:59.000
Dude, I wish Amanda Nunes walked in there and beat the shit out of you.
00:40:30.000
And he looked at me and he goes, Hey, tell Shob I'm not hearing a fucking peep out of him.
00:40:35.000
I'll be in Miami March 16th through the 18th doing stand-up.
00:41:21.000
So to use your phone, you have to leave the theater.
00:41:24.000
So you would think they would just sit down and watch the show.
00:41:27.000
In Miami, they kept leaving the theater and coming back, leaving the theater.
00:41:31.000
They're doing blow and having fucking parties and talking.
00:41:35.000
Oh my God, they just kept going back and forth and back and forth.
00:41:43.000
That's where Tiffany Haddish, she just had a really bad New Year set.
00:41:51.000
There's a sneaky thing that happens, man, when you're doing movies, and then you become a huge star, so you're doing these big theaters as well, but you're not really doing enough stand-up to do those big theaters.
00:42:02.000
You've got to fucking do mad reps to do big places.
00:42:13.000
When you do see one, you know he means business.
00:42:16.000
He's turning away and getting him back to the center.
00:42:20.000
But when Luque's throwing elbows like that from in close, maybe he's really good at elbows or maybe he hurt his hands.
00:42:29.000
Luque can just sit there and kind of take those shots off his gloves.
00:42:42.000
Well, he's also probably really tired from the choke attempt and the Darce attempt in the first round.
00:42:49.000
Not that one of these guys are worried about leg kicks, are they?
00:42:55.000
I feel like front kick to the body is one of the most underused weapons.
00:42:59.000
You know, that was one of the things that I was so impressed with Barboza in the Hangman fight, in the Dan Hooker fight.
00:43:10.000
Paul Felder said, I was cage side when Paul Felder was taking those kicks to the body from Barboza.
00:43:15.000
And his skin was so red, and I said, I was like, you seem like you didn't even notice.
00:43:26.000
Vic's like, he's like one win from fucking, I feel like, being that guy.
00:43:42.000
I've never seen so many fucking elbows being thrown.
00:44:05.000
I'll take my shirt off right now and put it up against...
00:44:07.000
I'll stand right next to him and you tell me if I don't have a better body.
00:44:32.000
You're very slim around the forearms and the wrists.
00:44:35.000
It doesn't look like you'd have a lot of pop to your shots.
00:44:42.000
Dude, I feel like I could choke you with one hand.
00:44:45.000
You know what's confusing to me is the hand-to-wrist ratio.
00:44:51.000
I don't see a lot of power coming out of those hands.
00:45:17.000
These guys are playing rock and stocking robots here, man.
00:45:19.000
They're just standing right in front of each other.
00:45:21.000
Wouldn't you think that Luque would want to take this fight to the ground?
00:45:52.000
I rarely see a fight where guys are just standing right in front of each other like that.
00:46:06.000
You don't see a lot of guys just swinging these days.
00:46:12.000
Brian Count, did you watch MVP versus Paul Daly last night?
00:46:15.000
I did not watch it, and I only wonder how someone like MVP will do if he ever goes to the UFC. I want to see him fight guys like...
00:46:22.000
Dude, he's in the welterweight tournament, though.
00:46:31.000
And after watching Daily take him down, you gotta think what Tyron would do to him.
00:46:40.000
But the thing about Tyron is, Tyron's a legit wrestler with nuclear weapons.
00:46:46.000
He's gonna put your fucking jawbone through the back of your head.
00:46:53.000
He rocked Wonderboy, which is impossible to do.
00:46:56.000
How about he sat Darren Till down with one shot?
00:47:03.000
Imagine Darren Till MVP. He's so jacked, though.
00:47:10.000
It's like, first of all, you gotta give it all to the Cuban.
00:47:14.000
Yoel Romero wins best body competition, period.
00:47:26.000
But when Yoel Romero walks in with bikini briefs on, you're like, what in the fuck is he taking?
00:47:46.000
And then Alistair Overeem goes, oh my horse meat.
00:47:56.000
Nobody had a better body than Overeem when he was Ubering.
00:47:59.000
I think we bring it up on every podcast we do together.
00:48:07.000
No, Overeem was ridiculous, but Yoel just is a perfect specimen.
00:48:17.000
When he's standing on the scales and he's flexing, I remember being behind him when he was waiting, just blinking, going, what in the fuck am I looking at?
00:48:25.000
Even Brock Lesnar was like, what the fuck is he on?
00:48:28.000
I was so pumped for that fight because that was his UFC debut and his UFC debut against Brock Lesnar.
00:48:38.000
Because Brock looked like a fucking grizzly bear as well.
00:49:00.000
Damn, these guys are still playing rock and roll.
00:49:03.000
I feel like these fights are both all five minutes.
00:49:22.000
We were talking about this before you got here.
00:49:31.000
But, man, there's something special about these.
00:49:40.000
Like, Stylebender didn't be like an old-weathered Anderson.
00:49:45.000
I mean, he looked a little overmatched in terms of, like, technique.
00:49:49.000
Because Stylebender is a legitimate, world-class, world-championship caliber kickboxer.
00:49:56.000
He was hanging in there, and Anderson also trying to...
00:50:17.000
If you saw this in a movie, you'd be like, nobody punches that.
00:50:21.000
I watched some Glory fights today while I was working out.
00:50:23.000
Two things that Glory does better than UFC. One, five judges, not three.
00:50:33.000
After every round, the judges have to put up their scores.
00:50:36.000
So if you see a fucking domination, and then you see 10-9 for the wrong guy, the whole crowd can go, what the fuck?
00:50:49.000
It's the commission, it's not the UFC. And by the way, the best place to do that kind of change is right here.
00:50:55.000
Andy Foster is one of the most proactive, ahead of the curve, intelligent guys.
00:51:02.000
And Bob Bennett over in Nevada is just as good.
00:51:12.000
But that's not entirely true because of the new rules.
00:51:58.000
This is probably not the way to fight if you want a long-term career.
00:52:01.000
If you want that $50,000 bonus and some brain trauma.
00:52:04.000
If you want to play Jeopardy when you're 40. This is a bad move.
00:52:13.000
He ended up at the end of it with minus four points.
00:52:52.000
Just stop and think about how many bad motherfuckers came out of Brazil.
00:53:02.000
There's a few, but the majority are all coming out of Brazil.
00:53:10.000
The hoes are the girls who need help with their rent.
00:53:44.000
They had been playing Rock'em Sock'em Robots for a few fucking rounds.
00:53:52.000
Good fight, though, and good for ESPN, too, because the common fans watching are going, yeah, suck each other in the face.
00:54:02.000
Nevada State Athletic Commission adopts new unified rules.
00:54:07.000
November 13th, 2018. Oh, so 2018. Okay, so they finally adopted it.
00:54:16.000
So they took the new rules, but they don't accept the one point down.
00:54:30.000
Dude, how about that says fucking Paul Daly protests MVP loss says Bellator rigged it to protect their investment Paul Daly, you're a monster.
00:54:47.000
I mean, think about what he did to Lorenz Larkin, right?
00:54:52.000
And Paul Daly, he lands that fucking left hand on you.
00:54:58.000
MMA politics and Bellator protecting their investment.
00:55:06.000
I can't see how he thinks he won three rounds, though.
00:55:08.000
Like, if they give it to Dale, I'm like, alright, fine.
00:55:12.000
But how he says three, I'm like, alright, that's fine.
00:55:36.000
I thought he had a rear naked there for a second.
00:55:38.000
I was amazed that Paul Daly was able to take him down, though.
00:55:42.000
He really made some big improvements in his wrestling.
00:55:44.000
I guess maybe he felt like after the John Fitch fight, if you can't beat him, join him.
00:55:55.000
Yeah, that's 70. I saw Colby Covington at the American Top Team.
00:56:04.000
When you see them when they're off-season, you're like, how are you?
00:56:22.000
Well, he looks huge when he's weighing 155. He would get on the scale and I was like, what are you, hollow?
00:56:55.000
Yeah, it looks shiny and it looks very healthy.
00:57:34.000
Sometimes I'm walking to the cage and they give me a thing in my ear.
00:57:40.000
Did they even approach you to work for ESPN? ESPN was like, no, we know where you stand.
00:57:45.000
I would take this for zero money over being in Phoenix right now.
00:57:49.000
Although I would want to see those fights live and I'd love to call those fights live.
00:57:56.000
But did they even approach you or they didn't even want to?
00:58:09.000
Listen, man, I was thinking that I was on my way out.
00:58:11.000
I was really thinking I was on my way out, but I still love it.
00:58:14.000
And I love it way more now because I don't have to do it as much.
00:58:19.000
Because we can do all this shit talking and have fun and be silly.
00:58:25.000
I wouldn't mind doing this for some of the big boxing.
00:58:31.000
Mikey Garcia versus Earl Spence Jr. Oh, Dan motherfucking Severn!
00:58:46.000
I want to reach out to him and get him on because he had some amazing stories about wrestling back when he was wrestling.
00:59:06.000
I've heard some classic stories about him, too.
00:59:08.000
I saw Jeff Munson at, uh, I didn't say anything.
00:59:17.000
There's a video of him driving around in a Russian car singing Russian songs.
00:59:25.000
Eddie, remember when he took off all his clothes and left Abu Dhabi in 2003?
00:59:30.000
When Eddie beat Hoyler, we were down in Sao Paulo, and Monson got robbed.
00:59:35.000
So Monson, to protest, took off all his fucking clothes and threw his shorts into the...
00:59:47.000
You know, I asked Eddie at the time, I'm like, is that a legit choke?
00:59:52.000
And it was before Marcello started tapping guys with that.
00:59:56.000
We used to think that the North-South choke was a goon.
00:59:58.000
He'd just grab his head and squeeze the shit out of it like Mark Coleman style.
01:00:16.000
Novitski, if they tried saying, I'm like, nope, no, no, no.
01:00:19.000
He definitely looks like he's probably 45 and he's in very tight.
01:00:30.000
He fought Chuck Liddell as a light heavyweight way back in the day.
01:00:37.000
You ever seen a picture of him when the protesters and he's fucking like this?
01:00:40.000
And he's got that fucking, the capitalism tattoo on the back of his neck.
01:01:13.000
The guy with the mask on is like, at least he won't bite my nose off.
01:01:19.000
For 10 points, do you know where that's from, though?
01:01:26.000
That's from a Believe, and that's from Vietnam, where the guy is shooting another guy.
01:01:45.000
This is a great Vice documentary, the Munchies documentary on Crone, what Crone eats, and his training routine.
01:02:13.000
Yeah, well, someone needs to take him up on a fucking hot air balloon.
01:02:20.000
Anybody who tries to get away with a crime, for example, like this guy, Jesse Smollett or whatever, how crazy is that story?
01:02:46.000
Some people were saying online that it was like what happens when you let actors write a script.
01:02:55.000
Even worse, getting an actor to try to get away with a crime, there are cops, Chicago cops, because they haven't seen everything, because those guys don't study crime.
01:03:05.000
And you're new to the game, and you come and you're going to pull the wool over the Chicago police, all those detectives.
01:03:10.000
It's like me going, I started fighting a little.
01:03:14.000
Dude, how about they brought in his boys though?
01:03:17.000
How about they brought in his boys and they squealed real fast.
01:03:43.000
I think the brothers are just like a Chinese finger.
01:03:46.000
Have you guys seen that documentary, Abducted in Plain Sight?
01:04:03.000
The dad sucks off the dude who's molesting his daughter and having sex with his wife.
01:04:16.000
It's a long story, but this guy abducts this girl, drugs her, and she wakes up strapped to a bed.
01:04:52.000
Why does this knife in my hand feel so at home?
01:04:59.000
This guy abducts this 12-year-old girl, drugs her, she wakes up, she's strapped up, and she's got this speaker next to her.
01:05:16.000
They're the worst parents I've ever seen in my life.
01:05:18.000
She gets abducted and this guy makes her think that she got abducted by aliens.
01:05:26.000
So then the aliens tell her he's got this on a tape recorder and she's tied up.
01:05:30.000
His name's Mr. B. Yeah, his name's the guy who abducted her.
01:05:34.000
And the aliens tell her that she must marry this man to save the world and if anybody finds out...
01:05:44.000
She must get pregnant by this guy, that guy that abducted her.
01:05:50.000
She believes it and falls in love with the guy.
01:05:52.000
And she's in love with him for like four years because she thinks she has to save the world.
01:05:58.000
He got her to think she got abducted by aliens.
01:06:06.000
I think it's some people, high-level people, doing experiments and getting them...
01:06:20.000
They're being abducted by people who make them think they're getting abducted by aliens.
01:06:24.000
Wouldn't it be more obvious if they were just dreaming?
01:06:29.000
The thing about alien abductions is there's no...
01:06:33.000
If you look at people that have been alien abducted, there's no evidence they actually leave their house.
01:06:44.000
When people sleep, your brain produces all these chemicals that make you dream.
01:06:50.000
So all of these alien abductions, almost all of them...
01:06:55.000
These alien abductions all take place while people are sleeping.
01:07:07.000
Sleep paralysis is something that afflicts people where they're semi-awake and they can't move their body because your body's just like in a half state of dreaming and awake.
01:07:18.000
So during this time, your brain is producing dimethyltryptamine.
01:07:21.000
You're producing DMT. So you're tripping your balls off and you're having these weird fucking visions and you think you're aboard spaceships and shit.
01:07:29.000
But after watching this documentary, another possibility is that they're drugging people and making them think they gotta...
01:07:46.000
I'm more excited about this fight than I am the...
01:08:13.000
Think about Hickson Gracie and that level of girl that he would marry.
01:08:37.000
He's a vegan and Crohn's a pescatarian, so this is one for the people who don't read meat.
01:09:08.000
Crone Gracie's close guard is insane, so he will pull guard.
01:09:14.000
He submitted JT Taurus, who's one of the best guys out there, in Abu Dhabi 2013 in China from close guard.
01:09:21.000
What I'm surprised is he's not taking his dad's approach, which is that front leg sidekick to the leg.
01:10:04.000
Joe Benavides took a guy down three or four times in his last fight with that move.
01:10:14.000
This is a real world class submission strangler.
01:10:36.000
Callan, if you were his corner man, what would you be doing?
01:11:09.000
Alex just shook his head like, what the fuck is that?
01:11:26.000
There's a certain phlegmy sound when people chew cheese on a microphone that's really disgusting.
01:11:37.000
He basically pulled guard right there and dragged him to the ground.
01:11:45.000
You wouldn't take a guy down if it was a wrestling match.
01:11:49.000
And Henrik Gracie's doing a breakdown of it right now.
01:11:55.000
We're going to go over the breakdown right now.
01:11:58.000
He's been racing with amazing rear naked choke.
01:12:04.000
Alex Caceres is a good fighter, but he doesn't know crazy jiu-jitsu.
01:12:16.000
You know, he's maybe not even watching, like surfing in Rio or some shit.
01:12:24.000
Or he's balls deep in the most beautiful Brazilian we know.
01:12:26.000
Hey, dude, there's no way Hickson wasn't there.
01:12:37.000
He had the most interesting description of how he finishes people.
01:12:45.000
And he goes, when I move to one, I'm not going back to zero.
01:12:48.000
He goes, I'm moving to two, and then to three, and then checkmate.
01:13:43.000
Do you do the baby style where you preach their legs up like a baby?
01:14:08.000
He's got a great school too, Culver City in the house.
01:14:10.000
He got out of the shower and just shook it out.
01:14:18.000
I just want to let everybody know that the earth is flat.
01:14:33.000
That's like believing in Santa Claus and then finding out that he doesn't exist, and then you go back to Santa Claus.
01:14:46.000
No, Eddie's off it, but he has a following now of Flat Earthers, so he can't.
01:15:00.000
This is a softer cheese, and I'm getting this beautiful knife a little bit tarnished.
01:15:07.000
You know, I was a little concerned with Krohn's fighting career, because when he was on my podcast, when we were discussing Flat Earth, he said that he doesn't know if fighting is for him.
01:15:17.000
There's a lot of pressure, the family pressure, and he was basically saying that he likes living without any pressure, and he doesn't know if he wants to keep fighting.
01:15:26.000
But now, you know, when you listen to the Countdown show and all that, he said, you know what, I realize that just teaching is like, every day is like Groundhog Day, and I'm not at my best when I'm just teaching.
01:15:39.000
I'm at my best when I'm training for something, so I always have to be trained for something, so I realize I need to be fighting.
01:15:46.000
So when I heard that, that's like some, you know, he's evolving and figuring himself out.
01:15:51.000
So this might be the beginning of some championship shit here for the UFC. Listen, if he gets his striking together and he did tag Caceres with a couple of punches, everybody who goes to the ground with this kid is fucked.
01:16:13.000
I'm going to say fucking Brian Ortega versus Krohn.
01:16:46.000
John Jock knew it because he's really tight with Hickson and Hickson's family.
01:16:53.000
Well, you know, I mean, he's been doing MMA fights.
01:17:01.000
The thing is, his striking is like his father's striking.
01:17:06.000
It's not really to do it in terms of he's never going to be like...
01:17:18.000
Krohn is just going to get in, clinch up, and like you said, go from step one, step two, step three, not go backwards.
01:17:28.000
I wouldn't have been disappointed or shocked if Alex Caceres escaped a couple times on the ground and maybe stood up again and maybe Krohn got him in the third round.
01:17:38.000
I wouldn't have been that surprised because Alex Caceres, he's been fighting for so long, he's squirrely on the ground.
01:17:50.000
Look at that when Anthony Smith knocked out Shogun.
01:17:53.000
Meanwhile, how good did fucking Shogun look in his last fight?
01:17:56.000
Shogun has made some sort of a crazy resurgence, man.
01:18:40.000
And I think he's the type of guy that's going to rise to the occasion.
01:18:51.000
I don't know if he's capable of beating John, because I legitimately feel like John is not just the best light heavyweight of all time.
01:18:57.000
I think he's absolutely in the conversation for the best fighter of all time.
01:19:02.000
There's three or four guys that are in that conversation.
01:19:07.000
This is Mighty Mouse, who I think is the best representative of martial arts I've ever seen.
01:19:13.000
I mean, Kane is the best heavyweight I've ever seen.
01:19:16.000
But the best fighters I've ever seen, I think Fedor is in the conversation.
01:19:19.000
I think Anderson Silva, when he was in his prime...
01:19:36.000
Luke Rockhold and Daniel Cormier said when he was healthy, he was the baddest man on the planet.
01:19:42.000
Well, DC said to me, man, he goes, I can't beat that guy.
01:19:48.000
He goes, I thought about that when I was training with him.
01:19:51.000
Look, his corner man's got his headphones on, too.
01:20:46.000
I have really good conversations with that guy.
01:20:51.000
Why don't you come with me on the podcast tomorrow?
01:20:54.000
I could do that, but I have a podcast tomorrow.
01:21:05.000
Brandon Schaub and Brian Callen do a podcast every Monday and Wednesday without fail.
01:21:25.000
You and Chris D'Elia doing some stand-up together?
01:21:46.000
But it's why I don't have to do local press and why I basically sold out the West Palm Beach Improv, which I've never done, which is a big deal for me.
01:22:10.000
Well, Palm Beach, if you have five shows, you've got to sell about 4,500 tickets.
01:22:14.000
I bet a tinfoil hat would do really well there.
01:22:26.000
We're doing a show in Spokane at 4.20 in the afternoon, stand-up.
01:22:41.000
Not on April 20th, just at 420. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:22:51.000
When the sun is still out, it's a little bit tough for comedy.
01:23:42.000
I had a friend of mine who went there and took a picture of this lake.
01:23:45.000
This lake, 100 foot deep, you could see the bottom of the water.
01:23:50.000
Crystal clear, you could see the bottom of the water.
01:24:03.000
It's like a stomping ground for white supremacists.
01:24:11.000
So, Friday, March 8th, Tinfoil hat me in Sam Tripoli or in Tacoma, but that 420 show is in Spokane on a Saturday.
01:24:27.000
I was like, I was like, almost like, fuck that.
01:24:35.000
I've been a terrible opener more than once in my life.
01:24:40.000
This Thursday, I'll be at the Vogue Theater in Vancouver.
01:24:43.000
This Wednesday, I'll be at the Ice House in Pasadena.
01:24:47.000
You go to the Ice House website because Monday night at the Comedy Store sold out.
01:25:19.000
How weird is it that we actually did do a fight companion show, but it wasn't planned.
01:25:27.000
If you guys are out there, then I'm going to fucking do it.
01:25:30.000
I haven't announced it, so I haven't booked it.
01:25:33.000
You know, I don't believe in anything you believe in.
01:26:09.000
But my point was, we don't, when it comes to our beliefs, we're on opposite ends of the fucking spectrum.
01:26:17.000
But that doesn't mean that I'm not going to compliment you.
01:26:20.000
When I see you live, dude, you fucking smash, dude.
01:26:27.000
You can believe we live on a ball and all that shit.
01:27:20.000
I'm a very, I'm not, I don't believe in free speech?
01:27:33.000
You know, I was really into her until she had this clause about people.
01:27:39.000
Young people that are interested in helping people and changing the world.
01:27:42.000
I don't agree with a lot of her ideology, but she had this one clause that was people who were unwilling to work.
01:27:48.000
She wanted to give money to people who were unwilling to work.
01:27:53.000
What do you want, this knife B? I mean, how about, how about, like, passing legislation for late-term abortions?
01:28:03.000
In New York, they're celebrating late-term abortions.
01:28:10.000
Yeah, they're partying, they're doing coke, they're doing all that shit for late-term abortions.
01:28:27.000
You can't even get into Canada if you had a fucking DUI. Hold up.
01:28:42.000
There's literally hundreds of miles of open woods we just walk right through.
01:28:48.000
Well, you know, they don't have the same problem that we have with Mexicans.
01:28:55.000
Eddie, just because I'm a capitalist and a free market guy, and I'm basically a libertarian, doesn't mean I'm a Trump guy.
01:29:28.000
By the way, Brian Callen, your fucking wine choice is excellent.
01:29:36.000
The YouTube comments will be filled with hate for the smacking, flimmy sounds.
01:29:45.000
If you want to have a better life, stop commenting on any YouTube videos.
01:29:49.000
I don't know anyone who is successful who goes on YouTube and comments.
01:29:51.000
Do you think Michael Jordan's up on YouTube commenting?
01:29:55.000
These guys that, you know, when you can comment on a video and the whole world's going to see it, it gives them power.
01:30:03.000
It's like a message board that doesn't get censored.
01:30:08.000
It's the only one that doesn't get censored, right?
01:30:12.000
Well, people think it gets censored, but what happens is people, like, say you're spamming and they mark your shit as spam and enough people do it.
01:30:29.000
My thing about negative comments is that I have read some, and the thing is, I'm like, well, I kind of agree with you.
01:30:35.000
You know, I'm not my own biggest fan, so fuck off.
01:30:38.000
You're not going to say anything that I don't, you know, kind of like.
01:30:46.000
I'm amazed I've gotten as far as I've gotten with how little I feel about my work.
01:30:51.000
I think you've become, I think I've known you for 25 years, and I believe you've become not only incredibly thoughtful, and you probably have made the biggest transformation of any friend I've ever had, and you've become somebody who listens and podcasts so well.
01:31:11.000
You know, I made a mistake of listening to one of my early ones the other day.
01:31:20.000
Listening to you now, listening to how you listen and don't take a position and just are so open about everything, that pot debate, it's just unbelievable, man.
01:31:30.000
The pot debate was important to me because I legitimately think that there are people who should not smoke pot.
01:31:35.000
This is coming from someone who smokes a lot of pot.
01:31:42.000
I see there's people that shouldn't fucking do it.
01:31:44.000
And there's people that it does make them lazy.
01:31:48.000
Everybody's brain reacts differently to caffeine, to nicotine, to fucking all the drugs.
01:31:53.000
And there are some people that I legitimately feel like have a really hard time with THC. Especially in edible form.
01:32:03.000
I think it's legitimately one of the most potent psychedelic drugs that's freely available.
01:32:08.000
I called the Poison Control Center after I ate a brownie, okay?
01:32:19.000
I woke him up, because Artie's a seasoned drug addict, and back then I had eaten a brownie, and I didn't know what was going on with me.
01:32:34.000
If they made edibles illegal, I would understand.
01:32:48.000
And I think it's one of the things that I'm trying to do, and it's one of the things I was trying to do with that pot debate podcast, is let people know, hey, I've taken some pretty zealot-like positions in the past where I was like, everybody should smoke pot.
01:33:04.000
And if you're thinking about smoking pot, smoke a little tiny bit.
01:33:13.000
The one thing that I've always said, because I've influenced a lot of people to smoke pot, but the one thing that I've always said for the last 20 years is I've always said this, that I don't think you should start smoking weed until you're at least 28. I've always said that.
01:33:30.000
I never said 21, 15. I feel that fully develop, know who you are, become who you are, and then smoke weed.
01:33:39.000
That way you can tell the difference between what the pot is doing to you and what you are without the pot.
01:33:44.000
Well, not only that, your frontal lobe does not fully form until you're 25. That's a good time.
01:33:51.000
To that point, they say you shouldn't play football or fight or spar or anything like that.
01:33:55.000
I'm thinking you shouldn't play football, period.
01:33:59.000
Joey Diaz sent me this link, or he told me about this HBO Real Sports that they did on...
01:34:11.000
You know, I love Eddie because he's such a good person.
01:34:13.000
HBO Real Sports on football with his kid was 10 years old.
01:34:18.000
He had a concussion, another one right afterwards, and he committed suicide at 12. Jeez!
01:34:24.000
Here's my thing with this, though, in football.
01:34:28.000
Like, that kid probably wasn't going to have problems whether they had a concussion or not down the road.
01:34:33.000
You know where you see the proof, though, is in the retired NFL players that get into commentating?
01:34:42.000
But like Troy Aikman, for instance, he's had like a hundred concussions.
01:34:47.000
But he's one of the best commentators out there.
01:34:54.000
Rhonda Patrick actually detailed this in length.
01:34:56.000
There's actual scientific evidence about APO4. There's a genetic thing.
01:35:11.000
So you still get damage, but it's not the same kind of damage.
01:35:36.000
I always wear a robe and I go into a cheese cave.
01:35:49.000
He has a steakhouse where I ate a 380 day dry aged New York strip.
01:36:25.000
Well, you know how there's genes for brain damage?
01:36:28.000
There's also genes for flat earth belief and bad cheese taste.
01:36:40.000
I'm not bringing you to APL. I'm all over that.
01:36:57.000
This fucking guy goes home and sits there eating your little snacky poos.
01:37:09.000
Never invite you because you won't come over because you're like, nah, I'm too busy.
01:37:14.000
You have a chef come over and cook or just some guy you know?
01:37:24.000
Dude, you know where we need to go is Crossroads.
01:37:26.000
We need to go to Crossroads, Travis Barker's vegan place.
01:37:29.000
So, John Joseph invited me this, what is it, Wednesday?
01:37:34.000
Wednesday, you're going to fucking Pasadena, asshole.
01:37:36.000
Yeah, you've committed the fans of our tickets.
01:37:39.000
He wants us to go to dinner with Travis Barker.
01:37:40.000
Well, how are we going to do that when we're going to Pasadena?
01:37:44.000
It's already sold out by the time we mention it on this podcast.
01:38:04.000
His brother was the offense coordinator for the Alabama Crimson Tide.
01:38:09.000
They appreciate the fuck out of comedy at that place, too.
01:38:11.000
That's one of the most underrated clubs in the country.
01:38:18.000
My parents live in Deer Valley, so they come to my show, bring all their friends.
01:38:22.000
Dude, there's a place next to Keith Wiseguy's called Red Iguana Mexican Food.
01:38:45.000
Cynthia Cavillo trying to get that strangle on Courtney Casey.
01:38:52.000
I was talking about how your lifetime is not enough to learn MMA. Right.
01:38:58.000
Yeah, and you're always having to keep up and always having to train.
01:39:03.000
You know, I saw your boy, the guy who needs that guy in the head, the giant pro bowler black guy.
01:39:16.000
Like, I don't know anything about him, so I didn't want to be...
01:39:19.000
But I was like, you were saying stuff, and I was like, yeah!
01:39:23.000
You did not go bad on me in front of Greg Hardy.
01:39:24.000
No, I would have, though, because I'm a coward.
01:39:29.000
And I knew that we'd gotten kind of bad on him on the podcast.
01:39:33.000
And so I saw him, and I was at American Top Team, and I was like, and I said to Jimmy Burke, Jimmy Burke was from there, I go, Jimmy, Jimmy, I go, that guy, I think I bad-mouthed him, or I was at least didn't, I was kind of like, yeah.
01:39:43.000
And I go, he's so giant, I go, I gotta take a shower, but I just gotta sneak over, because when I went in there, a bunch of guys were like, hey, because they all listened to the podcast, I was like a celebrity, and I thought he was there, and I was just, I legitimately was a little worried.
01:39:56.000
I would have flown down there and choked him out in 30 seconds.
01:40:00.000
As I'm dying, Brandon's going to get you for this.
01:40:09.000
Yeah, you've got to be big to play for the Dallas Cowboys.
01:40:28.000
So let's settle the fuck down on convicted and acquitted.
01:40:41.000
I know, but I'm saying that's the reason why you're looking at it that way.
01:40:49.000
He seemed like he was very well liked because the guys around him were just all terrified.
01:41:02.000
He did in that one interview where he was like, hypothetically, this is what I did.
01:41:10.000
You could talk to him about what life is like now.
01:41:21.000
Just want to let the audience know that this is not real and just let them go off.
01:41:32.000
Do you guys ever see when O.J. did a music video after he got acquitted?
01:41:47.000
Yeah, Jamie, pull up the O.J. Simpson music video.
01:41:57.000
How crazy is it that he beats that rap and then he gets thrown in jail for some stupid shit?
01:42:24.000
Look, OJ Simpson wearing a wig, dressing up like Elvis after he's murdering people.
01:42:32.000
He murdered two people less than ten years before he made this video, and he's dancing around with these hoes.
01:42:38.000
Dude, they said when he got to Miami, they said he fucked all the girls.
01:43:05.000
I think it goes back to the alpha male who kills and rules ruthlessly.
01:43:12.000
There's probably a feeling of safety if you can...
01:43:22.000
But then powerlifters would have all the changes.
01:43:24.000
So I think that is also the idea that if I can tame him, that there's a challenge to that.
01:43:51.000
My wife thought Tony Soprano was sexy as fuck, even though he had belly and everything else.
01:43:58.000
And same thing when you watch Narcos with Pablo Escobar, even dudes are rooting for him.
01:44:04.000
There's something about- Like Tony Montana, for instance.
01:44:08.000
When he died at the end, every time you watch Scarface at the end, you're like, what are you doing?
01:44:24.000
The whole key to making people happy as well as doing a good show is don't chew on the mic.
01:44:36.000
I remember when Courtney Casey and Felice Herrig, they literally, one of the things we were talking about during the commentary was, like, they never moved from the same spot.
01:44:45.000
Like, Courtney stayed in one spot, Felice stayed in the same spot.
01:44:49.000
They were just standing in front of each other, and Felice spit blood on her.
01:45:20.000
I would like to see it again at 25. TJ wants it at 25. That fight was stopped too soon.
01:45:24.000
I think UFC wants it at 35. Well, it would be good for Cejudo.
01:45:28.000
It would be good for TJ if it's at 25. I really believe that.
01:45:31.000
I think he'd be better at 35. 35 would be better for Cejudo because it would give him the chance to be champ champ.
01:45:43.000
I want to see 35. Yeah, so what's the plan with 25?
01:45:53.000
He could have CM Punk fight at 125. He could have CM Punk cut one of his feet off.
01:45:59.000
They should have, if they do keep 125, have Joey Benavidez fight Henry Cejudo for a championship.
01:46:24.000
I thought you said TJ. No, DJ. I might have said TJ. I meant DJ. If I did.
01:46:36.000
Amanda Nunes says she'll fight Holly Holm, and then she's out.
01:46:59.000
I don't think she's made enough money to be talking about retiring.
01:47:12.000
All those guys, they all come back, they retire, and then they think, and then they get used to that money.
01:47:17.000
They get used to, like, oh my god, I have three million.
01:47:20.000
Then in two years, they go, oh my god, I only have two million.
01:47:23.000
Chris Cyborg explains why she's at WWE Performance Center.
01:47:27.000
She's going to go to WWE and challenge Ronda Rousey.
01:47:30.000
Can you imagine if her and Ronda Rousey have a goddamn WWE-type match?
01:47:52.000
It's a video game, B. Welcome to 2019. Does my neck look jacked?
01:47:58.000
I like when Brennan goes, when you're talking about duty, I think I have extra meat on my neck, and Brennan kind of, there's a pause, and Brennan goes, do you really need a thicker neck?
01:48:09.000
I always think about that guy who choked out that mountain lion.
01:48:52.000
Whoever you are, gentlemen, sir, find this man's name.
01:49:16.000
It was a wrestling match, and he got his fucking foot on this thing's neck.
01:49:23.000
He killed this fucking cat with his goddamn bare hands.
01:49:31.000
Eddie's like, the world's not round, but sticks aren't fake.
01:49:36.000
Sir, according to Colorado Parks and Wildlife, weighed 35 to 40 pounds.
01:49:48.000
Find another one that said it would be 85 pounds.
01:49:59.000
I'm a catologist, and I can tell you right now.
01:50:23.000
I was listening to Steve Rinello's podcast today and he said it was 85 pounds as well.
01:50:34.000
That thing was sleeping in a den and he stomped its face.
01:50:44.000
In fact, the thing had already been eaten by another one.
01:50:50.000
We were just fucking with you, and it turns out there's some real legit shit.
01:50:57.000
I just typed in 85 pounds to see what comes up.
01:51:01.000
One says 40, one says 85, one says 50, one says 110 to 180 pounds.
01:51:07.000
Whoever wrote that article needs a killing of balls.
01:51:26.000
Bro, the thing was already eaten, and he took the nails, and he scratched his own face.
01:51:34.000
Find the one that says 85 pounds and put it up on the screen.
01:51:36.000
Hey, Joe, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
01:52:00.000
He'll probably do something on Logo TV. First of all, he's going to get prosecuted.
01:52:03.000
The black community is ridiculing him now, and he's done.
01:52:10.000
The director of Empire, when I was like, I can't believe someone did this.
01:52:18.000
Dude, did you see his interview with Robin from fucking Good Morning America?
01:52:22.000
He's like, and the people that think I'm making this up.
01:52:42.000
Even if it was a kitten, it's still a mountain lion.
01:52:58.000
John Anik was doing research today, or yesterday, and he put up on his Instagram one of the pics of Paul Felder from his theater days.
01:53:25.000
I'm not prepared to make fun of him because he's such a badass.
01:53:51.000
How about John Anik goes, please don't elbow me in the face for sharing this.
01:54:01.000
I dressed up as a chick for Halloween a couple times.
01:54:11.000
I think Felder, I mean, he can beat anybody in the world at the right time.
01:54:17.000
I mean, I don't think anybody, he's not a kick walk for anyone.
01:54:22.000
I mean, he went the full three rounds with Barboza and took some ferocious shots.
01:54:40.000
Quick correction on something you guys were just talking about.
01:54:57.000
By the way, Joey Benavidez, one of the nicest guys on the planet.
01:55:20.000
There's no circus by the time those kids get older.
01:55:25.000
Like, you know, weird fucking middle of the country.
01:55:30.000
The Ringling shit's done, because you can't have elephants anymore.
01:55:36.000
Like, Azerbaijan, there are a lot of fighters there that are waiting to get visas.
01:55:42.000
MMA and wrestling in Azerbaijan is their national sport.
01:55:51.000
And he said, all these kids from, literally from 8 to 16 years old, they're all wrestling.
01:55:57.000
Guy comes out with mouthpieces and boxing gloves, no headgear.
01:56:00.000
And all the kids are like, yeah, they start cheering.
01:56:02.000
Put on their gloves, put in the mouthpieces, and start banging.
01:56:05.000
Well, they need nuclear physicists so they can compete with us in the global world war.
01:56:12.000
The thing is, that shit, that's great if you want cage fighters.
01:56:17.000
Oppenheimer flipped the switch on all that shit.
01:56:21.000
If you want to really run the world, you can't do it Mongol-style anymore.
01:56:36.000
He painted for me, and I looked at it, and the first time, when I saw it in the flash, I was like, that needs to be in the fucking studio.
01:56:54.000
The reason why this show is called The Joe Rogan Experience is Hendrix.
01:56:58.000
I probably listen to Hendrix more than I'm listening to any human being on the planet Earth.
01:57:07.000
I was about to say, Zeppelin to me is my number one.
01:57:09.000
No, for me, he's saying for me, but I think I've listened to Hendrix more, you know?
01:57:26.000
This is where Joe turns into a conspiracy theory.
01:57:30.000
His manager, though, there was a shady situation.
01:57:32.000
Yeah, his manager was a gangster, and there was a guy who was one of the henchmen for his manager that said the manager killed him because Hendrick was leaving him.
01:57:38.000
The one thing that supports that is that it was weird that he died choking on his own vomit, and he didn't have heroin in his system.
01:57:46.000
There's some weirdness to it, but then the other part of it is that the girlfriend, Hendrick's girlfriend, was...
01:57:52.000
Allegedly committed suicide by jumping off a roof, but the henchman says they threw her off a roof.
01:57:58.000
That was the other thing that's disappointing about Hendrix.
01:58:01.000
You hear that Hendrix used to beat his girlfriend, but that might have been...
01:58:09.000
Well, Richard Pryor also did a lot of coke and fucked everyone.
01:58:36.000
Dude, Marlon Brando sucked the meanest dick in Hollywood.
01:58:42.000
I've never done coke, but when you do coke and you're in the 60s and 70s, apparently, those guys are just fucking whatever was in front of them.
01:58:51.000
Yeah, well, she was saying, Pryor's wife was saying, her exact quote, I think, was, you'll fuck a radiator if you get enough coke in front of you.
01:59:09.000
Didn't they get their stomach pumped or something like that?
01:59:13.000
But that was like that Richard Gere gerbil myth.
01:59:19.000
Do you think the Richard Gere gerbil thing was real?
01:59:20.000
But you know what the thing about the Richard Gere thing is?
01:59:22.000
No, no, no, but the Richard Gere gerbil thing apparently came right after he left Scientology.
01:59:31.000
They found some lettuce in his underwear as well.
01:59:37.000
When I first met Eddie, Eddie and I talked about this because he grew up in LA, I grew up in Boston.
01:59:41.000
We both heard the Richard Gere story at the same time.
01:59:53.000
By the way, Jamie, bring up young Richard Gere.
02:00:13.000
If he didn't win, the world's fucking terrible.
02:00:18.000
And you watch it with a chick, like, cheating on her?
02:00:36.000
Dude, he was the shit when he was younger, man.
02:00:40.000
Yeah, but he didn't have any kids until his lows were fucking like 380 days right in New York Strip.
02:00:50.000
Listen, I beat that guy to death in front of his mom.
02:00:54.000
He's vulnerable, he cries, and your girl's like...
02:01:00.000
How about that picture of you and I in the 90s going to fucking...
02:01:23.000
We're definitely going to watch the main event.
02:01:33.000
But you've got to think he cuts the shit out of weight.
02:01:47.000
Yes, it's 55. That guy was 85. Vic's 63. Vic's 63 and 55. Holy shit.
02:01:55.000
But he also cuts so much weight when he gets hit.
02:01:59.000
Felder and I were in the fucking locker room last time we were working together and we were getting changed, getting ready for UFC. I go, dude, what the fuck do you weigh?
02:02:05.000
And he goes, 190. I go, bitch, you're 200 pounds.
02:02:48.000
Remember he had that heart issue, then he lost his last fight.
02:02:53.000
He's not in the top 15. I think he might have retired.
02:03:22.000
Do you remember when we, I met him, we were all hanging out because you guys had the same manager.
02:03:26.000
And we were hanging out and he's sitting down and he's as tall as I am standing and I, and I said to Brendan, I go, I go, dude, what would you do if you had to fight him?
02:03:33.000
And Brendan was still fighting and you know him.
02:03:36.000
Dude, don't do that to him because Brendan goes, oh, I'd knock him the fuck out.
02:03:40.000
You took it, you took it, We were supposed to fight like twice.
02:03:56.000
Brian, do you ever think about doing actual commentary?
02:04:01.000
But would you be willing to do actual commentary?
02:04:08.000
I had an offer and I said I don't know enough about fighting to actually do it.
02:04:12.000
I think M1 should pick you up or Ryzen, B. You'd be sick.
02:04:16.000
Remember they had Dennis Miller do NFL commentary?
02:04:21.000
That was the issue when I started working for the UFC. I was concerned.
02:04:25.000
I was legitimately concerned because this was before UFC 37 and a half when I started working for the UFC. Dennis Miller was doing Monday Night Football and I was like, I don't want to fuck this up.
02:04:35.000
I'm not even going to remotely try to be funny.
02:04:50.000
This is just like when George Washington was coming across to Delaware.
02:05:00.000
I feel bad for him, because he wasn't set up for success in that.
02:05:04.000
Well, he was trying to throw those jokes around.
02:05:08.000
I think they probably brought him in to do that, though.
02:05:12.000
For his jokes, they had to okay all of his shit.
02:05:14.000
So thinking about pre-write that, it was a nightmare.
02:05:17.000
That is one of the craziest things about the UFC is that they don't tell me what to do.
02:05:28.000
But the fact that they have this billion dollar, multi-billion dollar organization that let me talk is fucking insane.
02:05:40.000
Joe Buck never played baseball and he's one of the best in...
02:05:49.000
Play-by-play guy doesn't have to be a professional ball player or ex-ball player.
02:05:56.000
What I'm saying is Joe's so goddamn good, they said, fuck it.
02:06:01.000
Well, the thing is, I wasn't good when I first started.
02:06:31.000
Dietary cholesterol has almost zero effect on blood lipids.
02:06:37.000
But people that have certain genes really shouldn't fuck with a lot of high cholesterol foods.
02:06:41.000
But for the most part, dietary cholesterol has been scientifically proven to have almost zero effect on blood lipids.
02:06:48.000
I think I might have naturally high cholesterol, so I have to Well, some people do.
02:06:51.000
Well, the thing is about, what is it, LDL or HDL? And if they're balanced out together, the real thing is like checking for artery plaque.
02:07:04.000
No, you need to go to a real doctor, motherfucker.
02:07:06.000
No, no, no, I'm saying can you do that with a...
02:07:14.000
What's the last time you saw a doctor, B, for your psoriasis?
02:07:17.000
What's the last time you had a finger in your butt?
02:07:31.000
I'm 50. When you're 50, you gotta get a colonoscopy.
02:07:48.000
I gotta say that I'm so happy that the UFC is on ESPN. I think it's so good for the sport.
02:07:54.000
Yeah, it's so good because so many people that are just sports fans just watch the ESPN all day long.
02:08:05.000
If I'm just at home, that's my default ESPN. Yeah, and I don't give a fuck about sports, but I understand it.
02:08:11.000
Oh no, it's such a big move for the FC. It's huge.
02:08:18.000
When I heard it was happening, and then the streaming service, because I spend so much time...
02:08:26.000
I spend so much time doing online stuff, I was really happy about that.
02:08:32.000
I was like, good, streaming is where the future lies.
02:08:36.000
He's probably top 25. They don't really rank you until you're top 15, though.
02:08:42.000
Well, that was why he didn't get that Khabib fight, and Al Iaquinta did.
02:08:47.000
But in retrospect, that was actually really huge.
02:08:51.000
Because Al fought a great fight, went five full rounds with Khabib, which Conor couldn't do, and then beat Kevin Lee's ass in his next fight.
02:09:02.000
Al Iaquinta, when he's focused, is a fucking gangster.
02:09:14.000
I think Jimmy said, what's the one discipline that you think is the best thing to have before anything?
02:09:27.000
That's why you shouldn't do commentary except in the movie Warrior.
02:09:37.000
It's the ability to dictate where the fight takes place.
02:09:40.000
That's why I fucking lied your P's and Q's around me.
02:09:45.000
I remember when I brought Brian to Carlson Gracie School back when Carlson was still alive, and Carlson had a school in Hollywood off Hawthorne, right when Vitor was making his UFC debut and Brian and I became friends, and he was wrestling with Sergio Cohen, and Sergio got mad at him and headbutted him.
02:10:03.000
Because back then they didn't know how to take that.
02:10:10.000
I was looking over at Brian and Brian was going hard with Sergio Cohen.
02:10:15.000
Yeah, he took it on top of him and just donked him.
02:10:18.000
Because we were going takedowns and I had my elbow in it and he just pulled it out and went boom on my head.
02:10:35.000
We're a little Bustamante, Carlos Barreto was there.
02:10:48.000
One of the things Mario Sperry said, he goes, I got so good at my triangle because I get my girl and my guard, and I get her in my guard, and I just tease, and tease, and tease, and tease, and she says, no, I don't want to do it no more.
02:11:10.000
I taught an old girlfriend of mine a triangle, so she gets really into it.
02:11:17.000
Back when I worked as a DJ at a stripper at a strip club.
02:11:22.000
Because I wanted her to do it on her next boyfriend, and then...
02:11:26.000
Have him ask her where the hell you learned that from?
02:11:28.000
So then it's like I pissed on her, you know what I mean?
02:11:34.000
She's obsessed with triangles, so I'm trying to watch Howard Stern, right?
02:11:39.000
And she's trying to put me in a triangle, and I keep telling her, stop.
02:11:42.000
I'm like really into this Howard Stern episode.
02:11:52.000
I go, you're gonna fucking start crying right now.
02:11:57.000
So she put me in a triangle and I fucking rampaged Ricardo Arona on the bed though.
02:12:04.000
So I picked her up and I told her, you're going to start crying.
02:12:12.000
When I slammed her on the bed, she lets go, bounces off the bed and goes flying and lands on the ground and lands on her wrist and she starts fucking crying.
02:12:24.000
So she runs to the bathroom, and I walk into the bathroom, and she's got the hot water running over her wrist, and she's crying.
02:12:42.000
I just wanted to get her to stop crying, and she stopped, and that was it.
02:12:51.000
Paul Felder lifts his hands up, feels like he won that round.
02:13:01.000
That'll happen when you start roughhousing and all of a sudden you're hurt.
02:13:06.000
Yeah, never show your girlfriend how to do a triangle.
02:13:10.000
Because then she's going to get obsessed with it.
02:13:13.000
You're saying it as Liam Neeson now, but you're fine.
02:13:18.000
I had a girl take a swing at me halfway into the punch.
02:13:26.000
I go, she's not going to follow through with this.
02:13:44.000
When I held on to her afterwards and she admitted it to me, it was really sad.
02:14:11.000
That's a weird thing, man, when someone expresses some shit that they saw from their mom and their dad.
02:14:16.000
I was really lucky that my stepmom and my dad...
02:14:21.000
My stepdad and my mom, rather, had a really good relationship, and my mom and my dad had a bad relationship.
02:14:28.000
I get to see what people, when they love each other, and just real friendly.
02:14:50.000
But I'm glad he was because it made me the man I am today.
02:15:24.000
It's like when dudes bug you to be on your podcast and if it's your real dad.
02:15:29.000
What if your real dad contacted me to get a hold of you?
02:15:34.000
How many people contact you to get on the podcast?
02:15:37.000
Dude, I got people that contact friends that I know that contact me to contact you.
02:15:42.000
And I always tell them, I go, it's never going to work.
02:15:49.000
The guy goes, doing fight campaign tonight, right?
02:16:01.000
When I have enough money, I'm going to move to Montana and get off the internet.
02:16:18.000
Eddie, if you go online, Jamie Vernon, pull up pictures of Coeur d'Alene, Iowa.
02:16:57.000
If you shoot it up there before, it'll make you shit harder.
02:17:02.000
Hey, you know the problem with that is when you take one of those shits where you got just shit all over your ass and then you spray something on it.
02:17:36.000
How's it a secret if Kanye West has a house there?
02:17:45.000
It's just, Kanye is, you know, he's a complicated artist.
02:18:00.000
Dude, you and Kanye on the podcast would fucking melt.
02:18:06.000
When I talk to him on the phone, he's a very, very nice guy.
02:18:18.000
Hey, I told you guys, I really like doing these as much as I like doing anything.
02:18:22.000
Like, when someone says, like, what's your favorite guest?
02:18:37.000
That guy who's working on longevity drugs, that was fascinating.
02:19:20.000
I should be going for Kane because he's Mexican.
02:19:24.000
But when it comes to the UFC, I don't give a fuck about Mexicans.
02:19:36.000
He wouldn't throw any punches against Derrick Lewis.
02:19:40.000
But his last fight though, he fucking starched Curtis Blades.
02:19:43.000
Here's my big black guy who's a fucking national champion juco wrestler.
02:20:06.000
Francis is a fucking specimen and his story literally is like right out of corner in the Barbarian.
02:20:14.000
No, he worked in a fucking sand mill, digging sand, making sandbags all day.
02:20:23.000
I mean, he lived in this incredibly poor country in Africa.
02:20:31.000
He learned how to fight, and he wanted to be a boxer, and they said, you should do MMA. Four years later, the guy is at the pinnacle of MMA, fighting in the UFC against world-class competition and fucking people up.
02:20:44.000
Do you understand that when he knocked out Alistair Overeem with that vicious shovel hook, it's like...
02:20:51.000
It's insane that he beat a guy who's not just a world-class fighter, but a K-1 Grand Prix champion.
02:21:05.000
Well, it's an Alistair without the secret sauce.
02:21:20.000
I'm going to text him right now because I'm friends with him.
02:21:26.000
He used to get all fanboyish when you text certain people.
02:21:30.000
I'm texting this guy, this rapper that I'm a huge fan of.
02:21:43.000
It's like a Tim and Eric awesome show, great job type video.
02:21:51.000
And we're texting now, and I'm like, we're going to make a song together.
02:22:03.000
Oh, no, you stopped doing the podcast for a second.
02:22:10.000
Once I started repeating myself all the time, I'm like, you know what?
02:22:34.000
He's literally one of the reasons why he started doing it.
02:22:36.000
Every time we go on the road, sometimes I have shitty ass nights.
02:22:40.000
I thank God that Sam Tripoli goes after me and saves the goddamn show.
02:22:47.000
I spent two weeks in Afghanistan with that guy.
02:22:49.000
That guy would get up and he would open for us because he was the only one who could.
02:22:53.000
Soldiers sitting there would be in the middle of nowhere.
02:23:04.000
I've been doing stand-up with Tripoli for 20 plus years.
02:23:14.000
That's a compliment that he looks like Stephen King.
02:23:20.000
I subdue myself here about conspiracy theories, but if you want to hear me go off, go to Tinfoil Hat Podcast.
02:23:27.000
There's a good chance I wrecked that new Raptor after tonight.
02:23:44.000
Come on, that had to be one of the most iconic moments in the history of the internet.
02:23:48.000
First of all, it's the biggest moment in podcasting.
02:24:07.000
Hey, first of all, that'd be the biggest moment in podcast history.
02:24:16.000
I didn't dislike him, but that made me like, oh, he's cool.
02:24:18.000
I had to buy his car because I told him I'd buy his car when I did the podcast.
02:24:27.000
You should see if my Raptor can run over your Tesla.
02:24:30.000
But listen, man, I'm telling you, that goddamn Tesla is the future.
02:25:06.000
I like to think that if I was gay, I'd tell you all.
02:25:16.000
Let me drive mine while I'm high and drunk right now.
02:25:22.000
What about that Tesla that he pretended to launch into space?
02:25:34.000
Mine is the fastest fucking thing I've ever driven in my life.
02:25:53.000
Brendan's mad because now Joe and Brian can bond on their Teslas.
02:26:34.000
I got a four-door sedan that goes zero to 60 in three seconds.
02:26:45.000
How are you supposed to go to Vegas on a last minute whim trip?
02:26:56.000
You're telling me you feel alive when you drive in a Tesla compared to your GT3? I feel like I'm living in the future.
02:27:14.000
Do you guys leech when you get sick too, you fucking old timers?
02:27:30.000
Dude, I'm going to line up both your testes like this.
02:27:42.000
Dude, my car has four-wheel drive, more than 700 horsepower, and it goes zero to 60 in two and a half seconds.
02:27:59.000
If you want to buy a car that will never break down and can tow your fucking grandmother's house, get a Tundra.
02:28:16.000
I'm embarrassed when I drive to the podcast and you guys pull up in your fucking $90,000, fucking $100,000 cars.
02:28:26.000
Get with it, bro, with your internal combustion engine.
02:28:45.000
You might be the most successful jujitsu guy with Henzo Gracie.
02:29:04.000
No, I'm saying that he's successful just out of the love.
02:29:27.000
We got people listening at home and they got their headphones on and then we start screaming.
02:29:34.000
You know, he is such a badass, but his body is not...
02:29:42.000
When you look at his body, you'd be like, that just doesn't look like...
02:29:47.000
You've got to save all that look shit, because he's got the best body ever for the MMA's heavyweight division when he was in his prime.
02:29:57.000
He took giant bombs from Czech Congo and still took them down.
02:30:07.000
He never had the best heavyweight of all time in my opinion.
02:30:18.000
In his prime, when he was at his best, like when he knocked out Minotauro, you know, when he beat up Brock Lesnar.
02:30:34.000
We'll find out tonight, because Francis has the best body, and Kane looks like a...
02:30:38.000
You guys never talk about the female UFC bodies.
02:31:23.000
She makes her ring walk and she's got this long wig.
02:31:25.000
And then she takes it off and she gets into the outfit.
02:31:33.000
You know, Rose is one of the most beautiful women in the history of the sport.
02:31:37.000
And she's the one who emphasizes it almost the least.
02:31:40.000
She could easily be on the cover of Elle magazine.
02:32:04.000
When she wins the fight and knocks out Nama Yunus, you're like, you know, y'all just be nice to each other.
02:32:31.000
If you had to write it down, it wouldn't be right.
02:32:39.000
Brian Stan just started calling her Ioana champion.
02:32:53.000
How the fuck is he going to pronounce that crazy name?
02:33:31.000
No one spells really anymore, because you have phones.
02:33:36.000
Those names are hard to remember, because to this day, right now, I still don't know Zabit's last name.
02:33:48.000
But did you have to spend five, ten minutes on it?
02:33:52.000
I practiced it over and over again because I had a really hard time with it to the point where his coaches were saying just call him Zabit.
02:34:00.000
But yeah, but I felt like this is the gentleman's name.
02:34:05.000
I never thought I was going to get Nurmagomedov.
02:34:11.000
At one point, I just gave up on it and said, there's no way I could do this.
02:34:14.000
Well, you know, we have to respect the fact that...
02:34:17.000
But we have to respect the fact that they have a totally different language in terms of their letters.
02:34:22.000
They need to respect the fact that they have a completely different language.
02:34:29.000
I don't know what the fuck's going to happen right here.
02:34:31.000
I do not know what the fuck's going to happen right here.
02:34:35.000
No, we'll get kicked off of YouTube or some shit.
02:34:43.000
In terms of best I've ever seen, performances, he's one of the most stunning athletes I've ever seen, Cain Velasquez.
02:34:49.000
One of the most amazing heavyweights of all time, if not the best of all time.
02:34:55.000
And then Francis, out of all the guys I've ever seen fight, is the scariest of all time.
02:35:04.000
He's only been fighting a small amount of time and he's already in world class competition.
02:35:10.000
You have to understand to knock out a guy like Alistair over him literally like five years in a training.
02:35:16.000
He's something uniquely special in terms of his like the shit that he had to endure working in a fucking sand mine digging bags of sand the kind of power that he possesses if he just gets all those other pieces in place In terms of an overall physical specimen,
02:35:50.000
For, you know, fast rising stars that are rising because of their beastliness and their knockout power.
02:35:58.000
It's not uncommon for them to not train jujitsu right.
02:36:07.000
Zengonu actually trained jujitsu right and fell in love with him.
02:36:15.000
Well, I know when he got away from Stipe, they say he just hit bags at the performance center.
02:36:35.000
You could only survive on your knockout power for so long.
02:36:42.000
Guys, we're killing this show by talking over each other like this.
02:36:47.000
No, what I'm saying is, eventually, no matter, we see it over and over again, no matter how beastly you are and how powerful you are with those punches, eventually you're going to get clipped.
02:36:58.000
So eventually, you might have to switch your strategy to, instead of going out there and just trying to knock a dude out, to going out there and trying to take a dude down.
02:37:15.000
But the thing is, with wrestlers, don't you think that you have to learn it at a really young age?
02:37:24.000
Kane got clipped with the left hand right there.
02:37:51.000
Dude, he blew his ACL, MCL, LCL. Something's wrong with his leg, or maybe not.
02:38:09.000
That's what I was saying right before the fight!
02:38:10.000
I'm like, this is the scariest guy I've ever seen!
02:38:13.000
And it wouldn't have been a surprise if Ngannou was super cautious.
02:38:24.000
But the fact that he fucking threw down like this, boom, he went out.
02:39:08.000
When it's bent this way, when it comes this way, that's MCL. How old is he now?
02:39:13.000
I don't know, but he's a weathered whatever he is.
02:39:41.000
I think guys that are that championship caliber like Kane, their mind is so ferocious that their body is almost like a spaceship re-entering that's missing tiles.
02:39:53.000
They're so powerful in terms of their ability to keep driving.
02:39:57.000
They just keep driving and then their knees go and the neck goes and the back goes.
02:40:01.000
And then you deal with these physical realities of the body that you're given.
02:40:08.000
I was thinking about that when I was saying that.
02:40:15.000
Right now, it's been six months since my shoulder surgery.
02:40:27.000
But I'm rolling with 130-pound blue belts and shit.
02:40:33.000
The last three weeks, I've been rolling with some little blue belts.
02:40:36.000
I got to be able to have 50 pounds on them and have total control at this point.
02:40:43.000
Is it for Francis or is it a blown ACL for Kane?
02:40:46.000
Well, I mean, it definitely is a blown knee for Kane, but Francis wins the fight because when Francis was coming after him, he clipped him.
02:40:54.000
He definitely clipped him with that forearm behind the neck.
02:41:03.000
It would be better if Kane got just clipped and knocked out.
02:41:26.000
Thank you for ESPN. I want to dedicate this victory to my aunts who passed away on December 6th.
02:41:35.000
It's been a rough time, 2018. But I promise you, guys, I mean, he blew his knee out, but...
02:41:53.000
The way he was moving in on him, man, I mean, he really did look...
02:42:31.000
I think you might be correct, but I do think that he connected with his neck.
02:44:12.000
I know I speak for UFC. By the way, how good is John Anik?
02:44:32.000
Remember he had the first MMA show on ESPN? MMA Live.
02:45:22.000
And that's why Kane goes, I was getting too close.
02:45:27.000
He blew his knee out for sure, but it was the uppercut.
02:45:34.000
Ladies and gentlemen, I didn't see no uppercut.
02:45:38.000
Matt Taibbi has a fantastic article out right now about one of the problems with society today is that people look at the news like they look at sports.
02:45:54.000
This is a perfect example of four guys who are lifelong martial artists.
02:46:18.000
I thought it was stopped early, but I've talked to people that say they didn't think it was stopped early.
02:46:27.000
But I felt like when I watched it that you gotta give a guy a chance to fight more.
02:46:33.000
In the NFL, when they review plays, they review them and one of the most important things about reviewing a play is that you have multiple angles.
02:46:49.000
We didn't get a good enough angle because that right hand was like a ghost right hand.
02:46:56.000
I think it's so exciting when shit like that is going on.
02:47:01.000
Like Mark Dellegrate and all those dudes back there.
02:47:29.000
Todd Feldman made bank off fucking Francis, by the way.
02:47:33.000
I'm telling you, dude, if that guy keeps learning, and it seems like he had a weird spot, but you know what I really like about that weird spot that he got into?
02:47:44.000
He said, I carried over fear from my last fight.
02:47:50.000
Plus his ego got out of control because he was knocking dudes out.
02:47:59.000
Even his ego and his coaches, he just thought he was bigger than the game.
02:48:02.000
But they got humbled, and now he fucking just knocked out Cain Velasquez.
02:48:13.000
He looked like he was in a different weight category.
02:48:20.000
The future is an athlete that really, at 265 pounds, doesn't have to gain any weight, doesn't have to lose any weight.
02:48:32.000
The debut of Fox, Kane gets knocked out by JDS. Jesus Christ.
02:48:36.000
The debut of ESPN, he gets knocked out by Francis.
02:48:50.000
I just wanted to be like, oh damn, that's a tough reaction.
02:48:59.000
He has been scrambling right now to play this over and over.
02:49:34.000
From this angle, it looks like he beats him down.
02:49:36.000
Just play, pause, play, pause, play, pause, play, pause.
02:49:42.000
This angle, it looks like Ngannou beats him down.
02:50:01.000
When you think about a person that might be like 40 pounds lighter than him.
02:50:05.000
We don't want to invite Ariel to a cocaine party.
02:50:07.000
When you think about a person, he's essentially optimized at 265. He's optimized.
02:50:14.000
He's like a real 265. Is he for five rounds, though, Joe?
02:50:21.000
All he has to do is get better at that first round.
02:50:24.000
And do you really think a lot of guys are going to make it into that second or third round?
02:50:46.000
That's why King throws a single leg on the ref because he's concussed.
02:50:56.000
The thing about Francis is he's learning at this really rapid rate when you look at a guy that's only been doing it for how many years now?
02:51:11.000
I think five years from the time he learns martial arts.
02:51:20.000
If he can just get over the hump that he got...
02:51:22.000
Look, the Stipe Miocic fight, that's what's up, man.
02:51:45.000
Michael Jai White is huge, but Francis is a giant.
02:52:03.000
Maybe he's not as tall as him, but in the movies you can make him taller.
02:52:15.000
I watched Michael Jai White do a hopping sidekick on a bag at Legends and snapped a chain.
02:52:32.000
Listen, nobody is a more critical judge of kicking technique than me.
02:52:48.000
Michael, I'm telling Michael Jai White over and over, I'm trying to explain to him how bad of a motherfucker Joe is with that turning sidekick.
02:52:56.000
I go, dude, I'm telling Michael Jai White all the stories that, there's so many stories of Joe hitting the bag in front of traditional martial artists, you know, and taught everybody.
02:53:12.000
Everybody knows that now, because it's all over YouTube.
02:53:15.000
But before that, I was the one trying to fucking tell everybody, because I'm hanging out with Joe, he's kicking the fucking bag.
02:53:23.000
And everybody, GSP freaks out when Joe Rogan kicks.
02:53:41.000
I'm telling Michael Zai White all about Joe Rogan's turning sidekick.
02:53:47.000
Telling him the GSP story that's on YouTube that has a gazillion views.
02:53:55.000
Now the old Taekwondo footage is coming out where he's fucking, there's a clip with Joe doing a turning sidekick, hitting a dude and the guy drops.
02:54:04.000
And Joe just walks away like he's seen it, like he's done it a million times.
02:54:08.000
He's just, you know, so he's become like this legend.
02:54:11.000
So I'm telling Michael Chiwine all this at Legends and then we walk up to the fucking, the bag.
02:54:16.000
He goes, I got a pretty good turning sidekick too.
02:54:24.000
He fucking just, at Legends, does a turning sidekick, blows the bag off the chair.
02:54:31.000
I've been going 30 minutes talking shit about Joe Rogan.
02:54:34.000
I think you're, I think I was there for the 100% of it, but I'm pretty sure he did a hopping sidekick.
02:54:52.000
I hate to be shitty about it, did he do like high level martial arts?
02:55:00.000
And not only was I embarrassed because I just went off on Joe and he just fucking Broke the chain.
02:55:06.000
The first thing I thought was like, oh shit, Chris Riley owned the gym.
02:55:15.000
So we turned it into one of those grappling bags that you fucking mount and beat the shit out of, but we had to get rid of the chain.
02:55:25.000
I'm telling you, man, it was like a scene in a movie.
02:55:29.000
Eddie Bravo's talking about kicking bags and shit.
02:55:40.000
And someone said to me afterwards, yeah, we're having a problem with that chain.
02:55:48.000
Can you imagine if I would have just said, well, anyways, Joe's kick is just so amazing.
02:56:06.000
If you put that in a movie, that would be bullshit.
02:56:13.000
People would have Get up and walk out of the goddamn movie if you put that in a goddamn movie.
02:56:19.000
Brian Callen, we're talking about one thing at a time, Fur.
02:56:29.000
If LeBron James at 18 went, you know what, let me try and hit the mitts.
02:56:33.000
There's certain athletes, and this is what I'm thinking about Kane, and what I'm thinking about Francis tonight.
02:56:37.000
There's certain athletes that, if they can get the mental game into a place where Kane was when he was at his peak, it's all about how easy is it For you, how much do you have to work for it?
02:56:52.000
How much of the reason why you're successful is because you've built up this insane work ethic?
02:56:56.000
So you have phenomenal cardio and an ability to push.
02:57:00.000
And can you get a guy who has that but spectacular genetics?
02:57:18.000
Yeah, can you get that freak, a genetic freak who has advantages?
02:57:23.000
I would also have to say there's a big difference.
02:57:24.000
You might be a great athlete, but when you get hit in the face, when you get knocked out, what are you like the next day at practice?
02:57:36.000
I think certain fighters, certain people, that doesn't deter them, and some people it would.
02:57:43.000
I talked to Charles Barkley, and I said, did you ever want a dude to play football?
02:57:48.000
And he goes, those guys, I played for one day, and I was like, these guys are crazy.
02:57:54.000
Do you guys hear what happened with Bob Costas?
02:58:00.000
There should be CT. They went, cool, why don't you sit the Super Bowl out?
02:58:03.000
His exact words were someone told him that he crossed the line.
02:58:10.000
That's like you shitting on the UFC. It is a weird thing.
02:58:14.000
The UFC would go, cool, that's your belief and you're probably right, but we can't have you on our airwaves.
02:58:20.000
Can you imagine having Dana White on your show and you're like talking shit on him?
02:58:25.000
Dana White is one of the first guys to tell people to stop.
02:58:28.000
He's one of the first guys to tell people to stop.
02:58:38.000
He'll tell guys that he can make millions of dollars off.
02:58:45.000
There's people that want to fight, and this is where the real philosophical debate comes in.
02:58:49.000
If you think a guy should retire, but he doesn't think he should retire, but he's going to die someday, and so are you.
02:58:58.000
How do you have to say fighters from themselves?
02:59:03.000
It's like one of those really complicated debates where it's like, what does that mean?
02:59:09.000
But I love him and I knew he was on his way out.
02:59:13.000
And I would hope that if I was fighting and someone was close to me and knew...
02:59:21.000
When I was doing Taekwondo tournaments, we got to a point when I was somewhere around like 20 or 21 when I realized there was no future in it, and I started dropping off.
02:59:29.000
And one of the things was because I started training with other young guys, like a lot of guys who were doing kickboxing and boxing, and I realized, oh, they're doing it the way I used to do it, but I'm not doing it that way anymore.
02:59:44.000
And I realized, I was like, you know, I'd met some...
02:59:48.000
One kid, this guy, Dana Rosenblatt, who wound up being New England middleweight boxing champion.
02:59:56.000
I remember watching him fight on Tuesday Night Fights.
03:00:23.000
But the thing is, he let me know from sparring with him that he was way more focused on fighting than I was.
03:00:30.000
And I used to think I was as focused as I used to be.
03:00:35.000
Here I'm a 20-year-old guy with a bunch of jobs.
03:00:39.000
And here's this kid who's, I think at the time he was like 18. He was kickboxing and boxing.
03:00:49.000
Because when we would spar, that's where he would fuck me up.
03:00:53.000
I'm like, dude, there's no money in kickboxing.
03:01:06.000
What about the PKA? What is that, PKA? PKA. What I'm saying is back then, there was nothing.
03:01:16.000
You're saying that kid was super passionate about it.
03:01:21.000
I'm like, these young guys are gonna fuck me up.
03:01:37.000
But my take from it wasn't, you know, my take from it 100% was, oh, this guy's way more focused than I am.
03:01:46.000
And so when I saw that you had your foot out the door, I was like, shit, he's got his foot out the door.
03:01:54.000
Yeah, but I saw it and I was like, dude, you have a real chance.
03:02:14.000
They're going to like you on podcasts and doing stand-up.
03:02:23.000
You can't give that advice to everybody and a lot of people got mad at me for giving that advice.
03:02:32.000
I saw it and I was like, ah, this is a fucking hill.
03:02:35.000
Fighting is like a part of your past, you know what I mean?
03:02:39.000
Dude, I was like, this is a hill I'm willing to die on.
03:02:42.000
No one wants to tell you you don't want to be doing this.
03:02:48.000
Because instead of losing a friend, now I see a friend grow.
03:02:55.000
I'm going to cut to 205. And I was dieting, training.
03:03:21.000
Yeah, you almost started crying when you were going out there.
03:03:32.000
What's crazy is I did stand up in the comic store last night, drove back to watch Roy Nelson and Crow Cop fight.
03:03:46.000
Because you have a pro-athlete's work ethic applied to something that you really enjoy.
03:04:00.000
If you guys fought, I'd go, Brennan got a lot of size on him.
03:04:07.000
I wouldn't be surprised if Joe Rogan landed a fucking turning sidekick.
03:04:13.000
If Fett has decided to fight Joe at me, he kills both of us.
03:04:19.000
No way is Brendan going to be able to finish Joe.
03:04:38.000
I know I have seen Brendan Schaub with some of the best jiu-jitsu guys ever.
03:04:45.000
And I've watched him tap them every 12 seconds.
03:04:51.000
Listen, I saw Brendan 100% stall out with Cyborg and get in his guard and go to the ground with him purposefully.
03:05:14.000
Joe could tap me out right now if we're dead serious.
03:05:27.000
Anybody who's any good anywhere near as big as you.
03:05:30.000
I've watched Brendan Schaub take the best in the world.
03:05:33.000
There's physical advantages that people have that are so stunning.
03:05:43.000
When I give you a name, when I tell you the name, he's a giant.
03:05:49.000
There's certain people that they get a hold of you.
03:05:54.000
I watched him destroy one of the best guys in the world.
03:06:09.000
I'm saying, I'm going back to Brennan because I know Brennan's in fucking Colorado.
03:06:16.000
I got a new bit on SeaWorld I want to talk about.
03:06:18.000
I just tried new material about being a Backstreet Boy.
03:06:22.000
He puts those yoga mats on his hips and does like 500 pound fuck thrusts.
03:06:35.000
You know how many times I saw him get through a round, and I wanted to give him advice on what he did wrong?
03:06:43.000
He's like, I can't fucking even breathe right now.
03:07:01.000
My cardio was always the worst part of my jiu-jitsu game.
03:07:06.000
When you got somebody in a truck and you put a crotch repper on, Joe would just rip through people's legs.
03:07:24.000
Joe is fucking the master of that motherfucker.
03:07:32.000
Are there any other comedians who wrestled or anything like that?
03:07:47.000
Well, people tell me that Jay Moore actually has coached wrestling.
03:07:56.000
Yeah, he coached, but Jay wasn't a real wrestler.
03:07:58.000
But I'm just being, oh my god, look at this crash on TV. Holy shit.
03:08:26.000
Yeah, I had Dale Earnhardt Jr. You didn't watch Dale Earnhardt Jr.?
03:08:32.000
And talk about a guy who's had some problems with concussions.
03:09:01.000
So a good night, you take the family to the raceway, a good night, three, four crashes.
03:09:18.000
They don't watch NASCAR. I'm going to go with Jamie.
03:09:22.000
Louisiana watches NASCAR. I would say most races end in some kind of a crash.
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Can you imagine taking your family and spending $200 on the race and there's no crash?
03:09:54.000
They're probably counting all the amateur races.
03:09:57.000
They're talking about the assholes in the back.
03:10:23.000
You know, I was watching that there's a, on YouTube, there's a video of an overlap between a GT3 car, which is like a Porsche like Brendan has, and a Formula One car.
03:10:35.000
It's like, Jesus Christ, they're so much faster!
03:10:38.000
You watch the GT3 car, you're like, oh, that guy's flying.
03:10:47.000
Comparison between Formula One and GT3. GT3 is like a Porsche.
03:10:52.000
You know how big Talladega Nights, the sequel, would be?
03:10:59.000
Especially if they can get Borat to jump back on board.
03:11:05.000
Who's better than John C. Reilly and Will Ferrell?
03:11:17.000
The one on the left is GT3. It's fucking crazy the difference.
03:11:30.000
That's why Europeans think Americans are goofy.
03:11:38.000
That's basically, you're like sitting on a missile.
03:11:45.000
The Formula 1 course has a lot of turns, right?
03:11:49.000
See if you could get a map of a Formula 1. That's right.
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Formula is like a crazy track when NASCAR is just a circle.
03:12:54.000
Because they want to be able to see the whole race from where they're sitting.
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Because here, you can't see shit if you're sitting in Formula One.
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Meanwhile, the country, they're the ones that are geniuses.
03:13:40.000
This wreck happened this year in the F1 race in China.
03:14:17.000
But Formula One is so expensive, like just to have one car.
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It's like the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds.
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If the Illuminati are not at Formula One races, what the fuck are you doing?
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Hold on, listen to Jamie here for a moment, please.
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An average team costs anywhere between $20 to $60 million for NASCAR. For F1, it's anywhere between $200.
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And those Red Bull, Mercedes, Ferrari, Porsche, those boys make bank too.
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His dad would fucking work like three jobs just because it's so expensive as a kid to do it.
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How crazy is it that nobody knows about it, but there's so much money involved in it?
03:15:46.000
Guys, we've got to stop talking over each other.
03:15:54.000
Nobody, there's no like, no kids are into Formula One racing.
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Unless you're born into like the Vanderbilt, the fucking Harrimans, you know what I mean?
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The kids don't give a fuck about that shit in Europe.
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As somebody who grew up overseas, I can promise you, in the Middle East, in anywhere in Europe, my father is at Vanderbilt.
03:16:51.000
And take a look at how many people showed up for his funeral in Brazil.
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There's an amazing documentary just called Senna.
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I mean, you're living your life on these split-second decisions and controlling some impossibly powerful vehicle when you're going around these fucking turns and everything's happening so fast.
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And this guy just had this lightning precision ability to make decisions.
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It's like Dale Earnhardt Jr. when his pappy died.
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Then they fixed the car, so no one's really died since.
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Once his dad died, they're like, we need to fix this shit.
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And now there's all sorts of safety stuff in it.
03:18:02.000
That was a fascinating conversation about how many concussions that guys had because I never would have thought of that.
03:18:14.000
And he had moments where for six months he was just a mess.
03:18:18.000
Andy Stumpf, he's had so many concussions because they would blast doors, and he would be the one to set the charge, and all his friends are hanging, hiding, and he'd be like, where the fuck am I going to go?
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Andy said he's had over like 200. 200 concussions.
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Got shot in the hip, can't feel his foot from the knee down.
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Because he had a place to stay, but I go, stay with me.
03:18:45.000
When we were on The Man Show, we had a sketch that got declined.
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He was blowing up because he was just always wrecking and drove the ratings up, so everybody wanted him.
03:19:01.000
You would have to have an Asian guy write that, though.
03:19:03.000
Like, if Bobby Lee wrote that, it would be cool.
03:19:25.000
They can't wiretap you out in the fucking golf course.
03:19:28.000
That's why all those rich white people, they're out there going, I'm glad you guys agreed that you have the same view on politics.
03:19:39.000
Is there a one game that symbolizes more like really super rich dudes out there making deals, playing a game, like golf?
03:19:48.000
They literally tell you, if you want to succeed in business, people tell you, you should learn how to play golf.
03:19:56.000
He doesn't go out there playing golf with business people.
03:19:59.000
Hypothetically, like OJ. I'll tell you a real story.
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So, my mother and my father, this guy comes out to play golf.
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My father, who was a big investment guy, and he wanted my father to invest in his company.
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1990. And they go out to play golf in Greenwich, Connecticut.
03:20:34.000
But my mother sees him kick the ball just a little bit into a better lie.
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Because he was in a taller grass, kicked the ball into like shorter grass so he could get a better swing.
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He did it, but he looked around to make sure nobody was watching.
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My mother, Sicilian girl from New York City, just went, oh, interesting.
03:21:05.000
My mother goes, wow, that guy just cheated secretly and it's a bullshit game.
03:21:28.000
I'll tell you his name afterwards, but he was a huge fucking scam artist.
03:21:33.000
In the news, everything else, that whole thing, everybody invested went pro.
03:21:52.000
Eddie, remember, there was one time where Eddie met this guy.
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And he called Eddie up and he told Eddie, yeah, I got a bunch of guys on a triangle today.
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And he was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
03:22:10.000
Bro, you didn't triangle a bunch of people and armbar people on your first day.
03:22:22.000
Because the only reason he started doing jujitsu is because he wanted us to co-promote some kind of martial arts event.
03:22:33.000
And I didn't know if he was a legit promoter or not.
03:22:40.000
He wanted to do the show and he was going to involve me in it.
03:22:44.000
Then he came down to my school and after one class, he's telling me the next day, I fucking loved it, man.
03:22:58.000
And I thought, shit, maybe I shouldn't go into business with this guy.
03:23:02.000
So right there, I was like, I gotta back out now.
03:23:10.000
There came a time where I had to sit him down, you know, but it was ugly.
03:23:15.000
Joe and I, ever since we were, like, we've known each other since we were 28, and we'd just be talking, and then, like, I'd say something.
03:23:27.000
Like, I tapped him out, and then I'm like, not really.
03:23:33.000
You'd tell a little white lie because you just didn't, you're just, it's convenient, and then I was like, you have to walk it back.
03:23:40.000
It's a weird thing when people make shit up, though.
03:23:44.000
Traveled to Okinawa, fought everyone bare knuckle.
03:23:48.000
Back when I first opened up 10th Planet, this was 2004, there was a girl that trained there.
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And she starts telling me that she tapped one of my purple belts.
03:24:23.000
Sometimes when you go with a kid You let them take an arm bar.
03:24:28.000
But when they're adults, if you do that to them, they're gonna actually think they really tapped you.
03:24:40.000
Some will go, fuck, I'm tapping these motherfuckers out.
03:24:47.000
Well, I remember when I first learned, man, I was a little confused.
03:24:59.000
The girl called me and said, hey, listen, I'm excited.
03:25:02.000
I just won first place in my division and second place in absolute.
03:25:12.000
She won first place in her division and second place in absolutes.
03:25:35.000
She won her division and she got second in absolute.
03:25:56.000
I went on a date with a girl, and she was weird.
03:25:59.000
We went on a date, and I was like, this is weird.
03:26:03.000
And then I get a call from her a year later, and she goes, make sure you watch.
03:26:10.000
She goes, because my hands are in it, and I push a door.
03:26:26.000
Tell them because that's like my first TV thing.
03:26:44.000
Because I guess Glenn closed somebody who was going to push the door, but they used her hands instead because she's not going to do a close-up picture.
03:26:54.000
She's a good person, but I was like, you can't tell people that.
03:26:57.000
You can't tell people that, because they're going to think it's weird.
03:27:00.000
And some people just don't have a gauge, maybe, for how weird that sounds.
03:27:03.000
It might be a big deal to them, though, you know?
03:27:05.000
Like, you're on all these big TV shows for her.
03:27:08.000
Maybe she comes from a small town, and she's like, look, those are my...
03:27:11.000
A huge part of success is knowing when you suck and when you're good.
03:27:18.000
It's a matter of it's not being that important a moment.
03:27:21.000
But for her, if she likes you, she thinks maybe you'd want to see her.
03:27:32.000
Maybe or maybe she was trying to reconnect with one of the more interesting guys.
03:27:42.000
Maybe she was trying to reconnect with a well-read, handsome gentleman with a real six-pack without even flexing.
03:27:54.000
She likes strange, whittled-down wrists and forearms.
03:27:57.000
Hey, man, don't say anything about my wrists, man.
03:28:12.000
I'm 52, and I took my shirt off, and I was throwing punches.
03:28:15.000
The only difference is you're better at being a person than you were when you were 32 or 22. Yeah, that's all it is.
03:28:23.000
You're better at doing it with the least amount of fucking stress and more friendly.
03:28:31.000
But at the end of the day, you're just a person.
03:28:44.000
Dick root is when guys pull their sweatpants down.
03:28:51.000
It's a weird thing that, you know, it's kind of grown.
03:29:04.000
I think it's going to go the way of the bell-bottom, personally.
03:29:18.000
I can't believe the game showed his dick like that.
03:29:36.000
Dick root is the base, like the bottom of the tree, bro.
03:29:50.000
That's the difference between ESPN from decades ago and now.
03:29:55.000
Think about how many YouTube videos that people watch that are all grainy and shit.
03:30:03.000
I think Brendan needs CNN. I think he needs good production.
03:30:22.000
I don't bet against DC, unless it's against John Jones.
03:30:28.000
I mean, you could tell how much stronger he was than Kane.
03:30:32.000
Usually Kane throws people around, but he couldn't throw this dude around.
03:30:55.000
The thing about, if DC fought Francis, DC would not, you know, he has more options.
03:31:03.000
He's got more options in terms of the way he moves.
03:31:06.000
But also, he's got success at heavyweight against Stipe.
03:31:18.000
And then at 205, it may very well be that he fights at his best at heavyweight.
03:31:22.000
I like him and John at heavyweight because DC has power at heavyweight.
03:31:30.000
We've seen how that works out, just not in the cards.
03:31:36.000
But this guy at heavyweight, that's the scariest one.
03:31:44.000
You think it'll be like a DC avenging his brother's loss?
03:31:51.000
When he turns 40. Which Dana's going to shut your fucking mouth for his money.
03:32:04.000
DC, to me, just from his stature, is the most impressive fighter to ever step in the octagon in terms of what he has to work with as far as being 5'9", 5'10", maybe?
03:32:28.000
And is basically undefeated except for Jon Jones.
03:32:36.000
But Google doesn't count for height and weight.
03:32:40.000
I have an Instagram and he's standing next to him.
03:32:44.000
But the UFC. You can have fucking cowboy boots on.
03:32:57.000
I'm pretty sure 4'8 is probably the shortest heavyweight champion in the history of the sport, right?
03:33:10.000
Nganou is like 10 times more muscular than that dude.
03:33:18.000
It's the one thing I don't give a fuck about to college basketball.
03:33:22.000
But it's weird, though, when you see these athletes...
03:33:26.000
When you see these athletes like LeBron James, who's like a clear top-of-the-food-chain freak, when you see one of those guys, you see more of those guys in things like basketball and football, clearly, right?
03:33:57.000
How about your boy, your Corn Fred fan you brought to San Diego?
03:34:04.000
That gigantic gentleman is from another gene pool.
03:34:26.000
All of them are freaks in the NBA. The Greek freak is seven foot.
03:34:33.000
As opposed to guys that are just throwing balls.
03:34:39.000
There's nobody tackling him against a guy where there's people trying to kill you and drag you down.
03:34:44.000
But as far as pure athletic ability, NBA has the biggest freaks in the world.
03:34:58.000
You have these specimens that stand out in almost every sport, right?
03:35:04.000
What basketball player can fuck with Ray Lewis?
03:35:25.000
Okay, in terms of like top of the food chain athletics.
03:35:38.000
Let's go NFL. Let's go NBA, UFC. Just narrow it down to those three.
03:35:44.000
Toughest guy is UFC. Right, but what are the percentages of real freaks?
03:36:06.000
Does freak mean you're a freak because you're a beast?
03:36:21.000
Every player in the NBA. Look at all the fucking Golden State Warriors, the Greek freak.
03:36:28.000
Height is important in basketball because they're throwing a ball around.
03:36:35.000
Well, when you're talking about fighting, football is a way more violent encounter.
03:36:41.000
Be probably better at fighting would be drawn to that.
03:36:43.000
You'd have to be more of a freak to be in that more of a violent sport.
03:37:03.000
But that doesn't mean you're more athletic because you're willing to run into a wall or get punched in the face.
03:37:09.000
But we need super athletic guys to survive in this sport.
03:37:20.000
They're not in the UFC. Why would they trickle over though, Joe?
03:37:23.000
Well, because they think that they have a better chance at controlling their destiny fighting than they would if they think they're colliding with people all the time in the football field.
03:37:33.000
The thing about colliding with people is like, I really feel like certain guys, like look at Ryan Bader's last few fights.
03:37:41.000
I mean, they were talking about this in the Bellator broadcast.
03:37:53.000
Football players be making like $10 million a year.
03:37:56.000
But the thing is, he controlled his destiny in these encounters, which I don't think you totally can in football.
03:38:02.000
But still, Ryan Bader, the money he makes and the longevity and all that is a fraction of what an NFL or NBA player is.
03:38:11.000
So he might be the most famous guy in the world, but there's the guy who's the third-string quarterback on the San Diego Chargers who makes more money.
03:38:25.000
Wouldn't you rather be the guy who controls his own destiny?
03:38:29.000
No, because for every guy that controls his destiny, a lot of those guys are fucked over.
03:38:35.000
Because you have a pension, too, in the NFL. And there's a blueprint.
03:38:51.000
What do you think he made with his sponsors and shit?
03:39:17.000
Remember they tried to do that shit with Fedor?
03:39:24.000
They invented a whamma, and everybody was like, what did you call it?
03:39:28.000
When you were watching Cro Cop last night, I thought, are they going to do Cro Cop Fedor?
03:39:37.000
I went, I bet they're going to do set up Cro Cop Fedor.
03:39:44.000
And that's where I'm at with those guys, right?
03:39:47.000
If they still want to do it, Cro Cop obviously still wants to do it.
03:39:50.000
Maybe you have Fedor on your show and you talk about a fight.
03:39:59.000
Joey and Yoel was great because I knew Joey and I knew Yoel.
03:40:03.000
Like when Joey and Yoel were together and Joey was like translating back and forth.
03:40:08.000
But I would have to really know someone real well who spoke Russian.
03:40:16.000
We're going to go to the beach and pick up a bottle with a message in it.
03:40:20.000
They say Fedor's favorite place there is Red Lobster, and his favorite clothing store is Abercrombie, which I find fascinating.
03:40:26.000
Likes that smell, and plus them pretty faces on the walls.
03:40:50.000
You go to Bloomingdale's, you pick up their jeans.
03:41:05.000
You know what I want before we leave this podcast?
03:41:16.000
One example, Eddie, of why we should believe the earth is flat.
03:41:24.000
We can talk about flattery as long as it's a joke and it's funny.
03:41:54.000
I want to direct everyone to hashtag space is fake.
03:41:58.000
Because I've been doing research on space being fake.
03:42:02.000
Hashtag space is fake is something I'm investigating for my next hour.
03:42:07.000
For legitimately looking deep into people that- Dude, flat earthers mock them.
03:42:27.000
Anybody that thinks the Earth is flat, they totally don't believe what we're taught about what's above us.
03:42:34.000
So when people say space is fake, they mean all the stuff, information we're getting.
03:42:53.000
It means that all the information we got, all those lights in the sky, they're lying to us.
03:43:01.000
And there's a reason, and I can sit here and tell you, but you guys don't want to hear it.
03:43:19.000
The goal has always been for the most powerful emperors is a one-world government.
03:43:28.000
All the Roman emperors, they try to figure out, they try to do different combinations.
03:43:32.000
And they would fall and a new emperor would come and go, you know what?
03:43:48.000
There's no way to have a fucking one world government.
03:43:52.000
Not even other rulers from small countries are like, one world government?
03:43:58.000
People that don't know shit about politics don't want a one world government.
03:44:02.000
There's no way you're gonna sell a one world government.
03:44:08.000
The only way to make a one-world government work is to have the people embrace it.
03:44:16.000
So the trick is to make people want it, to embrace it.
03:44:32.000
The Vatican, the Pope wanted to rule the world.
03:44:36.000
They all knew it, but they knew one way, but there's no way.
03:44:40.000
The only way is if there was some extraterrestrial threat from up above us.
03:44:48.000
That would be the only way to have everyone embrace...
03:45:04.000
And you go to the Vatican, you see paintings of UFOs with aliens in them.
03:45:10.000
And back when I used to believe in UFOs, before I figured out that...
03:45:19.000
They're preparing us for a fake alien invasion.
03:45:25.000
The only way to do it is to get us to embrace it.
03:45:28.000
And the only way to embrace it is from an alien attack.
03:45:31.000
Ronald Reagan talked about it many times at the UN, CFR. He talked about it.
03:45:36.000
He looked at all the leaders of the world and said, wouldn't it make our lives easier?
03:45:43.000
If we just had some kind of extraterrestrial threat, he said that shit.
03:45:50.000
He said that in front of the UN. He's trying to get everybody into believing.
03:46:06.000
He was talking about, and there's many videos of him saying what lies before us.
03:46:11.000
He's in front of the nation doing a State of the Union address saying what lies before us is the opportunity to forge a new world order, a world, an order.
03:46:35.000
I've never heard a politician talk about a fake alien attack without space.
03:46:39.000
But I've never heard a politician talk about...
03:46:58.000
All the ones that are giving us this information about space.
03:47:04.000
You know what the name of the Vatican telescope is?
03:47:06.000
The Vatican doesn't have the most powerful telescope?
03:47:36.000
When people ask me, why would they fake all this shit?
03:47:39.000
Well, I don't think that's the biggest telescope, Eddie.
03:47:47.000
But, Eddie, these new Chile Very Large Array telescopes that they're creating are fucking gigantic, and they take over enormous pieces of land.
03:48:03.000
I watched the documentary with you at your house.
03:48:07.000
And they said in five years, it's a documentary about them putting together the very large telescope in Chile, and they're talking about by the year 2005, we're going to have three telescopes linked with a computer to make us,
03:48:23.000
we're going to see further into space than ever before.
03:48:39.000
Isn't it weird that every space documentary, all the series...
03:48:47.000
I tried to remember all the shit about a neutron star and a super hypernova.
03:48:54.000
And then every now and then, we'd watch this documentary after documentary.
03:49:04.000
I thought I was better than people and shit because I knew so much about space.
03:49:07.000
And every now and then I'd watch all that shit and wonder, this is all cartoons.
03:49:18.000
All DVDs on space are all CGI. There's nothing real.
03:49:26.000
What's above us and what we're on, we're being lied to.
03:49:43.000
It's not that we believe something ridiculous and you don't believe it.
03:49:50.000
We believe some weird shit about the flat earth.
03:49:57.000
It's about we actually don't know what we're on, and we always say that.
03:50:01.000
We don't know, but based on all the shit that we got by the mainstream, we don't believe that.
03:50:09.000
So it's not that we believe something crazy, and you don't, because you smell it, the bullshit.
03:50:23.000
You use that microphone and you use a cell phone, right?
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