The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion

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00:00:06.000 Cheers.

00:00:06.000 Cheers, gentlemen.

00:00:07.000 Cheers, boys.

00:00:08.000 Look each other in the eye.

00:00:09.000 Always look in the eye.

00:00:10.000 We're drinking because Eddie Bravo's not here.

00:00:12.000 Let's be honest.

00:00:13.000 Sorry, Eddie.

00:00:14.000 Tower 7. Hashtag chemtrails.

00:00:18.000 So we're here.

00:00:19.000 This is a fight companion.

00:00:21.000 If you've never seen a fight or listened, either one you listened or heard or watched a fight companion.

00:00:26.000 We watch the fights.

00:00:27.000 We kind of talk about them, but most of the time now.

00:00:30.000 Who's this fake Conor McGregor that's selling video games?

00:00:32.000 See this guy?

00:00:34.000 Turn this up, Jamie, so you can hear the volume on this.

00:00:36.000 He looks like Conor's dad.

00:00:37.000 Listen to this.

00:00:39.000 Listen to this.

00:00:46.000 He's too old for that haircut.

00:00:48.000 He is, but what they're doing...

00:00:49.000 You're definitely right.

00:00:50.000 What they're doing is they're capitalizing on the fucking...

00:00:53.000 The Irish.

00:00:54.000 Oh, for sure.

00:00:55.000 The Irish are hot right now.

00:00:56.000 Did you see Connor's commercial with John Levitz?

00:00:59.000 No.

00:01:00.000 No.

00:01:00.000 He shot a commercial.

00:01:01.000 Have you seen it, Jamie?

00:01:03.000 And he's like, I'm one of those horse things, going, how's this going to help me win my fight?

00:01:07.000 John Lovitz is like, what's that M-A-A thing?

00:01:10.000 And Connor throws something at him.

00:01:12.000 Yeah, bad idea.

00:01:14.000 He's not doing movies.

00:01:16.000 He's not doing movies.

00:01:16.000 That's good.

00:01:17.000 If he's an expendable 19, then we've got a problem.

00:01:19.000 We've got a problem.

00:01:20.000 Well, he's passed on movies, which I think is a very, he's a very wise man.

00:01:23.000 Yes, he is.

00:01:24.000 Very wise.

00:01:25.000 Yes, he is.

00:01:25.000 You ever had a conversation with him?

00:01:27.000 Oh yeah.

00:01:27.000 Yeah, you guys had him on your show, right?

00:01:28.000 Yeah.

00:01:30.000 I've had some meals with a dude.

00:01:32.000 Very smart guy.

00:01:33.000 Yeah.

00:01:34.000 He's not fucking around.

00:01:35.000 No, not at all.

00:01:35.000 And he's been offered, and I know from my agent, he's been offered some big time movies.

00:01:40.000 Yeah.

00:01:40.000 Like not this bullshit most fighters do, like legit stuff.

00:01:43.000 And he's like, nah man, I can't right now.

00:01:45.000 Are you talking about Triple X? No, no, no.

00:01:48.000 The return of Xander.

00:01:48.000 I'm talking about some legit shit.

00:01:52.000 Yeah, I mean, he's a smart dude.

00:01:53.000 That Triple X movie looks so bad, they should show it to prisoners.

00:01:56.000 No.

00:01:57.000 They should play it over and over again.

00:02:00.000 Those people in Guantanamo Bay.

00:02:01.000 They'll give up ISIS. They'll give up everybody.

00:02:03.000 Did you see the bombs on?

00:02:05.000 Did you see the bombs on?

00:02:06.000 Did you see the bombs on?

00:02:07.000 Did you see the bombs on?

00:02:09.000 Did you see him lip-syncing?

00:02:21.000 He was happy because a deal came through and he put on Instagram him lip-syncing but he was doing a Beyonce song?

00:02:27.000 Hey, bro!

00:02:28.000 He was being silly, though.

00:02:29.000 He's opening himself up.

00:02:30.000 Not silly.

00:02:31.000 Oh, no, that's a problem.

00:02:32.000 You've got to have irony when you do that.

00:02:33.000 You must have irony.

00:02:35.000 How do you know he didn't have irony?

00:02:37.000 You've got to see it for yourself.

00:02:38.000 How do you know he didn't have irony?

00:02:40.000 I'm feeling that jacket.

00:02:42.000 That jacket's wonderful.

00:02:43.000 Is that real?

00:02:44.000 No, that's from Triple X. I don't mind him in the first one.

00:02:47.000 I like that jacket on him.

00:02:49.000 That's a dope jacket.

00:02:50.000 I want to make a jacket out of a muskox.

00:02:52.000 Yes!

00:02:53.000 Have the furry part on the inside.

00:02:54.000 God, that'll keep you warm.

00:02:55.000 Fuck yeah, it would.

00:02:56.000 Maybe too warm.

00:02:57.000 My dentist almost died from cold hunting muskox.

00:03:01.000 Oh, you have a nutty dentist.

00:03:03.000 It's like a crazy big game hunter, right?

00:03:05.000 Yes, big game hunter.

00:03:05.000 He almost died.

00:03:06.000 He was hunting muskox, and it was the coldest winter for them up there, and he almost died.

00:03:11.000 He and his guide.

00:03:12.000 Why the fuck isn't he fixing your teeth?

00:03:15.000 He does, and then he makes the money, and then he goes and shoots animals.

00:03:21.000 Guys get addicted, man.

00:03:23.000 They get addicted to chasing animals.

00:03:24.000 And muskox is a crazy one because you've got to go up to the frozen north, and when you're up there, man, there ain't shit up there.

00:03:30.000 I mean, there's this guy named Tom Miranda.

00:03:32.000 This is actually a very good fight.

00:03:33.000 Fun fight.

00:03:34.000 John Moraga versus Sergio Pettis.

00:03:36.000 Dangerous fucking fight for Pettis.

00:03:38.000 Moraga, who went five rounds with Mighty Mouse, got armbored, maybe four rounds.

00:03:42.000 He got beat up pretty bad, though.

00:03:44.000 He got beat up, but he rocked Mighty Mouse to the straight left.

00:03:46.000 That's true.

00:03:47.000 Then he got dealt with by Joey Benavidez.

00:03:49.000 That's right, he did.

00:03:50.000 There's an interesting fight, though, because Pettis is really young.

00:03:53.000 It's a big step up for Pettis.

00:03:54.000 Big step up.

00:03:55.000 But anyway, there's this guy, Tom Miranda.

00:03:58.000 He's got this show, Adventure Bowhunter.

00:04:01.000 And this motherfucker travels all over the world hunting things.

00:04:03.000 And he went to, I think it was Antarctica.

00:04:06.000 Wherever the fuck Muscox live.

00:04:07.000 Yeah, they're way up there.

00:04:08.000 Somewhere in the Arctic.

00:04:09.000 Somewhere in the Arctic Circle.

00:04:10.000 The roof of the world.

00:04:11.000 It's just nothing.

00:04:13.000 I mean, there's nothing.

00:04:14.000 It's white and flat and snow for as long as the eyes can see, and occasionally these animals, I don't know what the fuck they even eat.

00:04:20.000 I guess they must burrow under the sand and find whatever vegetation.

00:04:24.000 What do they look like?

00:04:26.000 Lichen and shit?

00:04:27.000 Yes, they eat the grass underneath the tundra.

00:04:30.000 What do they look like?

00:04:31.000 There's Tom Miranda right there.

00:04:32.000 That's him shooting one of those things.

00:04:34.000 That's his fucking guy.

00:04:35.000 Look what he's wearing, a moon suit.

00:04:36.000 Literally a moon suit.

00:04:37.000 Well, he's got to wear, that's camo up there.

00:04:39.000 He's dressing all white.

00:04:40.000 But he...

00:04:42.000 What?

00:04:42.000 Oh shit, he shot a polar bear.

00:04:44.000 Why the fuck did he shoot a polar bear?

00:04:45.000 Look at all the dogs around.

00:04:47.000 He shot a polar bear?

00:04:49.000 Apparently you talk to the people in Canada and polar bears are a lot more common in Canada than they would have you believe.

00:04:57.000 Where they're not common or where they're endangered is in areas where the ice shelf is melting.

00:05:02.000 Like Greenland?

00:05:04.000 Right.

00:05:04.000 But it's like grizzly bears.

00:05:06.000 Grizzly bears used to be in California, but now they're gone.

00:05:09.000 The last grizzly bear died in the 1800s in California.

00:05:12.000 Which is weird because grizzly bear is our state mascot.

00:05:15.000 Correct.

00:05:16.000 If you look at our state flag, rather, the grizzly bear is on the state flag.

00:05:19.000 Is that not a black bear on the state flag?

00:05:21.000 No.

00:05:22.000 No, it's a grizzly bear.

00:05:23.000 That'd be a grizzly bear.

00:05:23.000 It's a grizzly bear.

00:05:24.000 And you can hunt grizzly bears in Alaska.

00:05:29.000 There's a lot of them.

00:05:30.000 So, they're extinct here, but there's a lot of them in Alaska.

00:05:33.000 That's kind of the same thing with polar bears.

00:05:35.000 Like, people think that polar bears are extinct, or going extinct.

00:05:39.000 They're not in Canada.

00:05:40.000 And my friends in Canada that live up there that are hunters, they tell me there's a lot of polar bears.

00:05:44.000 They also say they're the most aggressive bear, right?

00:05:47.000 Yeah, it's a terrifying bear.

00:05:48.000 Polar bear, too.

00:05:49.000 Polar bear is the most aggressive.

00:05:50.000 They say polar bear is the worst.

00:05:51.000 Oh!

00:05:52.000 Yeah, there he shot.

00:05:53.000 This guy is a different guy.

00:05:54.000 That thing looks like straight out of the fucking dinosaur age.

00:05:58.000 It looks like a Star Wars animal, right?

00:05:59.000 Well, it's got to deal with those insane winners.

00:06:02.000 Yeah.

00:06:02.000 And he just dropped that thing.

00:06:04.000 It's supposed to be delicious, too.

00:06:06.000 It's like one giant ribeye.

00:06:07.000 Oh, yeah?

00:06:08.000 Like a lot of fat.

00:06:09.000 Yeah.

00:06:10.000 Okay, so Moraga and Pettis, it's four minutes and 15 seconds in.

00:06:14.000 Has the Princess Leia horns?

00:06:15.000 Yeah, look at it, man.

00:06:16.000 Well, you can see...

00:06:18.000 Yeah, if you're watching this fight at home, 4 minutes 8, 4 minutes 7, 4 minutes 6, 4 minutes 5, 4 minutes 4, so sync it up.

00:06:26.000 But these guys that go up there, you know, you're experiencing 30, 50 below zero.

00:06:31.000 Fuck all that.

00:06:32.000 Can you schedule me that?

00:06:33.000 The first to never?

00:06:34.000 I would never ever do that.

00:06:36.000 And they do it in tents sometimes.

00:06:37.000 And they go out there on snowmobiles.

00:06:40.000 That's the only way to travel.

00:06:41.000 Yep.

00:06:41.000 No thanks.

00:06:42.000 Which is also fucked up.

00:06:43.000 I can't deal with that cold.

00:06:44.000 That's just crazy.

00:06:45.000 A Moraga, I always thought he was a southpaw.

00:06:47.000 I guess he's switching up a bit.

00:06:49.000 He's going back and forth quite a bit.

00:06:51.000 Yeah, this is a lot for Pettis.

00:06:53.000 Yeah, he's an experienced guy.

00:06:55.000 He's ten years older almost, nine years older.

00:06:57.000 He's been around.

00:06:58.000 But you know what?

00:06:59.000 One of the things that happens with those guys that have been around, you always gotta wonder, like, have they decided they can't be champion anymore?

00:07:06.000 You know, are they still 100% all-in, living it, breathing it, or have they reached that point where they've got a few losses against top flight competition and the reality of their bills and their life sets in?

00:07:20.000 And, you know, you gotta wonder.

00:07:22.000 I think that's more realistic, especially with a guy like him.

00:07:24.000 Who knows?

00:07:25.000 I don't know where his mindset's at, but he got dominated by Joey Benavidez, and then you get smashed by the champ.

00:07:32.000 It's kind of like, God.

00:07:33.000 Yeah.

00:07:33.000 He had a good fight with Mighty Mouse, but Mighty Mouse is just too goddamn fast.

00:07:37.000 Yeah, Mighty Mouse did work, though.

00:07:38.000 But he did crack Mighty Mouse, man.

00:07:40.000 He probably caught Mighty Mouse the hardest in a championship fight.

00:07:45.000 He caught him flush.

00:07:47.000 So we were talking about this before the fight.

00:07:49.000 I still haven't seen it.

00:07:49.000 Let's see if Jamie can find it.

00:07:50.000 Oh!

00:07:51.000 He got cracked!

00:07:51.000 He just got cut.

00:07:53.000 Sergio landed a nice right hand there.

00:07:55.000 Someone landed an Ezekiel choke while mounted earlier in the card.

00:08:00.000 The heavyweight.

00:08:02.000 Whatever Ezekiel choke in the UFC, and he did it from the bottom.

00:08:05.000 What is an Ezekiel choke?

00:08:06.000 I have to see that.

00:08:06.000 Ezekiel choke is mostly done with a gi.

00:08:09.000 You can do it without the gi, but this is what you do.

00:08:10.000 God, almost all the time with a gi.

00:08:11.000 Yeah, you grab your sleeve like this here, and then you go like that and wrap it across the guy's neck.

00:08:17.000 Right, right, right.

00:08:17.000 Look at this.

00:08:18.000 From the bottom.

00:08:19.000 Look at this.

00:08:20.000 This is incredible.

00:08:21.000 He's essentially doing a rear naked choke almost while mounted.

00:08:25.000 Oh, it's so sneaky.

00:08:26.000 Oh, yeah.

00:08:27.000 It's nasty.

00:08:29.000 So disappointed with himself.

00:08:30.000 Oh, he's on bottom.

00:08:32.000 Yes, that's what I'm saying.

00:08:33.000 He was mounted.

00:08:35.000 He was mounted and he caught that choke.

00:08:37.000 One more time.

00:08:37.000 That might be the most embarrassing loss if you have heavyweight on top.

00:08:40.000 I don't know if it's embarrassing, man, because look, what the fuck do you do when a guy's got that on you?

00:08:45.000 Go ahead and poke that eye out.

00:08:47.000 What do you do?

00:08:48.000 By any means necessary, get the fuck out of that.

00:08:51.000 Well, I don't think he expected it, so he thought he was safe because he was mounted, and he just fucking tapped.

00:08:55.000 Wow.

00:08:55.000 That's amazing.

00:08:56.000 That should be submission of the year.

00:08:58.000 That's a heavyweight, huh?

00:08:58.000 That's a heavyweight with 50 fights.

00:09:00.000 Who is homeboy?

00:09:01.000 What's his name?

00:09:02.000 He's fucking old as shit.

00:09:05.000 The boa constrictor.

00:09:06.000 And he has 50 fights.

00:09:07.000 Alexei, early Nick.

00:09:08.000 Russian feller.

00:09:10.000 Interesting.

00:09:11.000 Very awkward.

00:09:12.000 Just submitted another heavyweight from the bottom of mount.

00:09:15.000 I wonder if he let him mount him.

00:09:16.000 I would like to see the whole fight.

00:09:17.000 I didn't see the fight at all.

00:09:18.000 That's like his go-to move.

00:09:19.000 I didn't see it either.

00:09:20.000 My brother texted me and said, hey, this heavyweight just submitted a guy from mount.

00:09:23.000 So he always does that?

00:09:24.000 No.

00:09:25.000 I'm saying I wonder if he let him get mount because that's like maybe his go-to.

00:09:28.000 I've got that in no gi from the mount, from when I was mounting someone.

00:09:32.000 When you're on top all the time.

00:09:34.000 It's rare, man.

00:09:36.000 Well, against a high-skilled guy, it's going to be tough.

00:09:38.000 Well, with a gi.

00:09:39.000 I've got it with a gi.

00:09:41.000 I've never seen it without a gi, to be honest with you.

00:09:43.000 Oh, really?

00:09:43.000 No.

00:09:44.000 Henner's done it to me a couple of times, but I've never done it.

00:09:46.000 Who has?

00:09:46.000 Henner.

00:09:47.000 Henner's done it with no gi?

00:09:48.000 Yeah, no gi.

00:09:49.000 Wow.

00:09:49.000 Well, they have long-ass arms, man.

00:09:51.000 Long, skinny arms are so good for those kind of moves.

00:09:55.000 I mean, that's for sure the first no-gi Ezekiel choke in the UFC. Even crazier, the guy was mounted.

00:10:03.000 And a heavyweight.

00:10:04.000 Yeah.

00:10:04.000 Crazy.

00:10:05.000 Oh!

00:10:07.000 Oh, they both cracked.

00:10:08.000 They both cracked at the same time.

00:10:09.000 Damn.

00:10:11.000 Dude, Pettis looks real good.

00:10:12.000 Yeah, he does.

00:10:12.000 He looks real good.

00:10:13.000 Moraga's swinging for the fan.

00:10:14.000 Oh, he tagged him again.

00:10:15.000 Pettis tagged him again.

00:10:16.000 Catch him on the forehead.

00:10:18.000 Pettis is looking slick.

00:10:20.000 Yeah, he really is.

00:10:20.000 So what do you think of his brother?

00:10:22.000 I thought his brother's fighting Marabek Tysimov.

00:10:25.000 Wait, is that his brother Anthony Pettis?

00:10:27.000 Yes.

00:10:28.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

00:10:28.000 Oh, man, that's the end of the first round.

00:10:29.000 I did not know that.

00:10:30.000 Sergio looked really good.

00:10:31.000 Not in this fight, and not in this card, he's not.

00:10:33.000 But I saw that on Instagram.

00:10:35.000 I'm going to make sure that's true.

00:10:36.000 It might not be true.

00:10:38.000 At 55, though, yeah?

00:10:39.000 Yeah, he's going back up to 55. And that's the right choice, man.

00:10:43.000 Yeah, I think so too.

00:10:44.000 But I think he's got to put some mass on.

00:10:46.000 I think he's got, you know, when you're dealing with these Eddie Alvarez, Rafael Dos Anjos type guys that are just mauling him and just staying close to him like glue, I don't think he's physically strong enough.

00:10:56.000 I think it's a physical thing, but it's also a technique thing.

00:10:58.000 Grappling's just not in his wheelhouse, really.

00:11:01.000 Well, it is.

00:11:01.000 He's gotten better.

00:11:02.000 I'm not saying that he's not good at it, but to the level of Eddie Alvarez and Dos Anjos, it's tough.

00:11:08.000 Mm-hmm.

00:11:08.000 Although he did submit Benson Henderson, right?

00:11:11.000 Yep.

00:11:11.000 And submitted Gilbert Melendez.

00:11:13.000 With a guillotine.

00:11:15.000 He has some slick jiu-jitsu, but when it comes down to the grind, the transitions and stuff...

00:11:20.000 He submitted Oliveira, too.

00:11:21.000 He has slick jiu-jitsu.

00:11:24.000 Whenever he fights a bigger dude who can grapple, it's typically when he loses.

00:11:29.000 Right, yeah.

00:11:29.000 Well, these fucking guys, man, that lose a ton of weight, they come in big and heavy and strong, and they're better wrestlers, and they're mauled.

00:11:35.000 It's a nightmare.

00:11:36.000 Yeah, and he's used to getting mauled in the gym.

00:11:38.000 You know, he's a training partner with Askren.

00:11:40.000 Look at that.

00:11:41.000 He gets cracked, and then he cracks him back.

00:11:44.000 That was crazy.

00:11:45.000 Straight right.

00:11:46.000 Pettis.

00:11:46.000 Wow.

00:11:46.000 Pettis looking slick.

00:11:48.000 Coming together.

00:11:48.000 He looks amazing.

00:11:50.000 Amazing.

00:11:56.000 126. Small guys.

00:11:59.000 Flyweight, son.

00:12:00.000 God.

00:12:00.000 Flyweight, son.

00:12:02.000 Thanks, buddy.

00:12:05.000 Yeah, it's a tough division to sell right now.

00:12:07.000 You know, I mean, Mighty Mouse dominating the division, then they have that Ultimate Fighter episode.

00:12:12.000 Tim Elliott wins the Ultimate Fighter.

00:12:15.000 Fights Mighty Mouse, gives him a hell of a fight.

00:12:17.000 Hardest fight he's ever had.

00:12:18.000 And then Mighty Mouse, I mean, he essentially says, I can't ever fight this weight class again.

00:12:22.000 I gave Mighty Mouse a hell of a fight, but he goes, my body was freezing up, locking up while I was inside the octopus.

00:12:27.000 That's what Tim Elliott said?

00:12:28.000 Yeah.

00:12:29.000 Wow.

00:12:29.000 He's going up to 35. So that's one more.

00:12:32.000 And of course, Lineker...

00:12:35.000 Was a big guy at 25. He goes up to 35 and TJ Dillashaw just fucking ran a train on him.

00:12:41.000 God, I was crazy.

00:12:42.000 Woo!

00:12:42.000 Shows you how good TJ is.

00:12:43.000 Straight up train.

00:12:45.000 Now you got TJ versus Cody.

00:12:46.000 That's gonna be fun.

00:12:47.000 Yeah.

00:12:48.000 Yeah, that's gonna be amazing.

00:12:50.000 That is a tough fight to call, actually.

00:12:51.000 Okay, so here's the fight, right?

00:12:53.000 So the dude's on top of him, and he locks it up.

00:12:56.000 Look, he's got the arm.

00:12:57.000 He's holding on.

00:12:58.000 It looks like he's just controlling the posture.

00:13:00.000 Here he has it set up.

00:13:01.000 Sort of, almost.

00:13:02.000 And the dude mounts him, and then he slides it under the neck.

00:13:04.000 Look at this.

00:13:05.000 He baited him into it, I feel like.

00:13:07.000 Yeah, I feel like he did, too.

00:13:08.000 And look at that.

00:13:09.000 Look at how he's, like, locking him in place.

00:13:12.000 Wow.

00:13:12.000 He's holding on in the mount while he's getting tapped.

00:13:15.000 That's crazy.

00:13:16.000 The guy on top is using the grapevine.

00:13:20.000 Look at how he...

00:13:21.000 This is pretty slick, man.

00:13:24.000 It's pretty slick.

00:13:25.000 This is hard.

00:13:26.000 Well, you hold onto your arm the same as a rear naked choke.

00:13:28.000 It's like a rear naked choke, but you're doing it in the front of his neck instead of the back of his neck.

00:13:32.000 It's face to face, though.

00:13:33.000 So he's grabbing his own bicep there?

00:13:35.000 Yeah, but look at the guy on top.

00:13:36.000 Look how the guy on top is grapevining the legs.

00:13:38.000 Here you go, Joe.

00:13:38.000 That's kind of crazy.

00:13:40.000 Yeah.

00:13:40.000 It's like he's holding him in position.

00:13:42.000 I guess he's trying to take some of the pressure off.

00:13:45.000 He even gave him mount.

00:13:45.000 You see how he leaned his hips to the way to let him slide into mount?

00:13:49.000 He must do that all the time.

00:13:50.000 He's sliding that in there.

00:13:51.000 That's some veteran shit to give a heavyweight mount to choke him out.

00:13:55.000 Crazy.

00:13:55.000 With a Nogi Ezekiel.

00:13:57.000 Crazy.

00:13:57.000 That is fucking crazy.

00:13:58.000 One more time, Jamie?

00:13:59.000 That's pretty cool.

00:14:00.000 Can we see that one more time?

00:14:01.000 I'd like to know what he's doing with his hand underneath there.

00:14:03.000 Well, he's doing like a rear naked choke, like a karate chop.

00:14:05.000 Think of rear naked choke, but we're nose to nose.

00:14:08.000 Right, and he's doing this with his hand.

00:14:09.000 Mm-hmm.

00:14:09.000 Okay.

00:14:10.000 You know how old school rear naked choke was?

00:14:13.000 See, it's the same setup.

00:14:14.000 You know, old school rear naked choke, like Ken Shamrock style, they used to grab the back of the head like this.

00:14:19.000 They would palm the back of the head and just squeeze it, which kind of can work, but not on the best guys.

00:14:23.000 On the best guys, you gotta get the karate chop in the back of the neck.

00:14:27.000 That's when you get, like, vicious leverage.

00:14:29.000 So he's doing exactly that same move, but he's doing it on the front of the neck.

00:14:33.000 And the guy on top had no idea what was going on, otherwise he would a hand fight.

00:14:37.000 Yeah, man, he's like...

00:14:38.000 He could a hand fight on the front there.

00:14:40.000 He doesn't even have a chance to get out of it.

00:14:43.000 Look, he doesn't even try to get his hands in between.

00:14:46.000 Well, he doesn't know what's going on.

00:14:47.000 Yeah, he doesn't know what's going on, and all of a sudden he's getting tapped.

00:14:50.000 Amazing.

00:14:51.000 That's amazing.

00:14:52.000 It's rare you get surprised, right?

00:14:53.000 Something in the UFC? Super rare.

00:14:54.000 Well, think about it.

00:14:55.000 There's only one ever Ezekiel choke.

00:14:58.000 That's it.

00:14:58.000 And it's from while the guy was mounting him, which is crazy.

00:15:02.000 There's only one ever omoplata.

00:15:05.000 That's Ben Saunders who's also on this card.

00:15:07.000 Correct.

00:15:07.000 Only ever omoplata in the UFC, which is crazy.

00:15:10.000 It's tough to pull off.

00:15:11.000 But it happens all the time in the gym.

00:15:12.000 Mm-hmm.

00:15:14.000 Man, it's tough to pull off.

00:15:15.000 You know what it is, man?

00:15:16.000 Guys usually roll over.

00:15:18.000 Yeah, because they want position instead of submission.

00:15:20.000 Because your chance of finishing, especially with a really tough guy, especially if they have shoulder mobility.

00:15:24.000 But you've seen how Imanari finishes it, right?

00:15:27.000 Oh, yeah.

00:15:28.000 I'm amazed that that hasn't been in the UFC, because that is such a good technique.

00:15:32.000 Because you can get that position because a lot of times guys will give you like that rubber guard and mission control position and all you have to do is clear the neck, get that foot across.

00:15:41.000 Then once you have that foot across and you just start to set up the omoplata, as the guy's defending the omoplata, usually they expose their neck because they're so concentrating on defending the omoplata.

00:15:51.000 Have you seen how Mackenzie Dern sets it up?

00:15:53.000 Yeah, did you see her last fight?

00:15:55.000 Yes!

00:15:55.000 What the fuck?

00:15:56.000 Amazing!

00:15:57.000 And she's a timepiece!

00:15:58.000 Timepiece!

00:15:58.000 What is going on in the world?

00:15:59.000 Jamie, pull up Mackenzie Dern's submission.

00:16:02.000 A lot of people are saying it's like submission of the year.

00:16:04.000 She's a real elite Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt, and she's Megaton Diaz's daughter.

00:16:09.000 And she's a dying piece.

00:16:11.000 And she sets up this omoplata and then moves from the omoplata to a choke from the back.

00:16:18.000 So she has the omoplata and she rolls.

00:16:20.000 And then she reaches up and grabs her waist first.

00:16:22.000 She does, but she rolls.

00:16:23.000 And she winds up on her back choking the girl from behind.

00:16:26.000 Check it.

00:16:27.000 Yeah, check it.

00:16:27.000 It's beautiful.

00:16:28.000 She's so good.

00:16:29.000 You know, it's so interesting to see super high-level Jiu Jitsu.

00:16:33.000 Look how she pins down the neck, she goes with a high guard, and she's using the...

00:16:37.000 It's not like rubber guard style, she's doing it different.

00:16:39.000 She's setting up the omelette.

00:16:40.000 Okay, so she avoids that leg.

00:16:41.000 That's the big issue as far as defense is, right?

00:16:44.000 Yeah, keep the leg.

00:16:44.000 You can't let them roll.

00:16:45.000 Right.

00:16:45.000 So she sits up, she gets her butt out, right?

00:16:48.000 And so the girl keeps trying to do it, and she won't let her.

00:16:50.000 But now, once she gets this position, watch how she rolls.

00:16:53.000 Watch.

00:16:54.000 She rolls on her shoulder.

00:16:55.000 Boom!

00:16:55.000 So she pulls her on her back.

00:16:56.000 So look.

00:16:57.000 Look at her shoulder and neck.

00:16:58.000 Oh my god.

00:16:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:17:00.000 Oh my god.

00:17:00.000 So look.

00:17:00.000 She sneaks that left arm under the chin.

00:17:03.000 Yes.

00:17:04.000 Sneaky.

00:17:05.000 Beautiful technique, man.

00:17:06.000 Because she can't defend with that arm.

00:17:08.000 And look.

00:17:08.000 She uses the butterfly in the left leg, too.

00:17:10.000 Oh, that's crazy.

00:17:11.000 It's so nasty.

00:17:12.000 That's crazy.

00:17:12.000 It's so nasty.

00:17:13.000 That's so beautiful.

00:17:15.000 It's so high level.

00:17:16.000 So high level.

00:17:17.000 And look, the way she sets it up is so cool, too, because she rolls onto her back, too.

00:17:22.000 Like, you rarely see anyone do this.

00:17:24.000 Like, watch how she does this.

00:17:25.000 She rolls onto her back and pulls her on top of her, and that girl's like, what in the fuck is happening?

00:17:30.000 She's still got her omoplata.

00:17:31.000 Yeah, that's the whole key.

00:17:33.000 She's holding onto the omoplata still.

00:17:34.000 The whole key.

00:17:35.000 Oh, no.

00:17:35.000 You know how BJ used to do it when he would take guys' backs?

00:17:38.000 And BJ has that incredible leg sexuality.

00:17:40.000 He would tie up the arms.

00:17:42.000 Yeah.

00:17:42.000 So he's an octopus.

00:17:43.000 Yes.

00:17:43.000 Yes, yes.

00:17:44.000 And so he could defend against the, or he could stop the defense with that leg.

00:17:50.000 Well, she's doing that kind of same thing, but she's doing it from an omelette.

00:17:53.000 Look at that girl's arm is locked the fuck up.

00:17:56.000 That's so awful.

00:17:57.000 That girl, you know when zebras get attacked by lions, there's just that sheer tear on their face?

00:18:01.000 Like, that girl had no idea.

00:18:02.000 Look at her arm!

00:18:03.000 She had no idea what was going on.

00:18:05.000 Her arm is wrapped up tight, and then on top of that, she's using her butterfly to trap the leg.

00:18:10.000 Like, look, she wraps that left leg over, and then she goes with the butterfly on the left side.

00:18:14.000 See how she's doing that?

00:18:16.000 Goddamn, that's so much control.

00:18:17.000 So much control.

00:18:18.000 I wonder how her English is.

00:18:20.000 Who gives a fuck?

00:18:21.000 I am trying to mark it here.

00:18:22.000 You could talk to her through one of the maps.

00:18:24.000 I'm gonna slide in the DM's with Portuguese, just broken Portuguese.

00:18:28.000 You see one of those, there's apps that it's like, I think it's called Google Lens.

00:18:32.000 I've used a world lens.

00:18:34.000 I've used it.

00:18:34.000 It's really cool.

00:18:35.000 When you're in another country, you hold it up to a sign and it translates the sign to English.

00:18:39.000 Really?

00:18:39.000 Yeah.

00:18:40.000 Wow.

00:18:40.000 It's amazing.

00:18:42.000 Dude, when I was in Italy, I would just hold it up to signs and it would translate everything to English.

00:18:46.000 That's so cool.

00:18:47.000 It's incredible.

00:18:48.000 Yeah.

00:18:48.000 It's incredible.

00:18:48.000 I mean, real time too.

00:18:50.000 Real time.

00:18:50.000 No delay.

00:18:51.000 Damn.

00:18:51.000 Yeah.

00:18:52.000 It's amazing.

00:18:52.000 I mean, it's a little broken because the translation's off the way they use their pronouns.

00:18:56.000 You do it with your phone or what?

00:18:57.000 Yeah.

00:18:58.000 You just hold your phone up.

00:18:59.000 God.

00:18:59.000 It's so cool.

00:19:00.000 That's crazy.

00:19:01.000 Fuck a tour guide now.

00:19:02.000 Yeah, man.

00:19:02.000 And apparently they're getting so close to having something that sits in your ear.

00:19:06.000 Like when you go on tour or if you go somewhere, something that sits in your ear and then translates what they're saying to you in real time in your ear.

00:19:15.000 God damn, so we don't need to learn anything.

00:19:16.000 You don't need to learn shit.

00:19:18.000 I... Thank God.

00:19:19.000 Look at this.

00:19:19.000 In-ear device that translates foreign languages in real time.

00:19:22.000 That's so dope!

00:19:23.000 What is this called, Jamie?

00:19:25.000 That's amazing.

00:19:27.000 So many people losing jobs.

00:19:30.000 So many people losing jobs?

00:19:32.000 I don't know how good they work, but they're readily available.

00:19:35.000 So it's already available?

00:19:37.000 It says you can pre-order it, so maybe it's not.

00:19:39.000 Sergio looking for the choke.

00:19:41.000 Moraga's all over him.

00:19:42.000 We're barely paying attention.

00:19:43.000 Pettis has got a huge contusion on the inside of his leg.

00:19:46.000 $200?

00:19:47.000 I'm fucking in.

00:19:47.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:19:49.000 That would be $200,000 five years ago.

00:19:53.000 Wait, what's that?

00:19:54.000 Four thousand?

00:19:55.000 Oh, four million raised.

00:19:57.000 Oh, so it's like a Kickstarter?

00:19:59.000 Indiegogo.

00:19:59.000 Ah, fuck.

00:20:00.000 I want the second generation.

00:20:02.000 You don't want that first one.

00:20:03.000 It'll get you in trouble, huh?

00:20:05.000 It'll get you in big trouble.

00:20:06.000 Get you in trouble in South America.

00:20:07.000 You might talk some shit accidentally.

00:20:09.000 It'll lead you to a whorehouse.

00:20:12.000 I'm so confused.

00:20:15.000 The Moraga on top here.

00:20:16.000 I'm so confused.

00:20:17.000 Look at this.

00:20:18.000 Moraga on top here.

00:20:19.000 So aggressive.

00:20:20.000 So aggressive.

00:20:22.000 Whorehouse.

00:20:23.000 What?

00:20:24.000 Hey, man, I don't know.

00:20:25.000 You get weird down in South America.

00:20:27.000 Of course you do.

00:20:27.000 I hope you guys never been, for God's sakes.

00:20:29.000 I hear it's, uh, yeah, that's legal down there.

00:20:33.000 And if it's legal, it's not...

00:20:35.000 How about Pettis?

00:20:36.000 People love to go to South America to surf.

00:20:39.000 Yes.

00:20:40.000 Oh, look at this.

00:20:41.000 Moraga dropping down for a leg lock.

00:20:42.000 Hold on.

00:20:43.000 Hold on.

00:20:44.000 You know what, man?

00:20:44.000 This is changing no-gi.

00:20:46.000 Changing no-gi is leg locks.

00:20:48.000 It is a transforming no-gi.

00:20:50.000 And it's just a matter of time before these Gary Tonin-type characters, these Eddie Cummings...

00:20:56.000 Start getting into MMA and dominating guys.

00:21:00.000 We got Held tonight.

00:21:00.000 Held tonight's a master.

00:21:01.000 Marcin Held, yeah.

00:21:02.000 He's a master with leg locks.

00:21:03.000 He is.

00:21:04.000 But he's fighting Lozon.

00:21:05.000 And Joe Lozon is a very, very good grappler and certainly good enough to defend and keep that guy off him.

00:21:13.000 So it's going to be really interesting to see whether or not Marcin can get it to the ground and whether Lozon is up on all the latest shit.

00:21:19.000 I hope it goes to the ground.

00:21:20.000 Could be real interesting.

00:21:21.000 I really do.

00:21:22.000 Lozan's no joke, man.

00:21:23.000 His ground game is super fast, too.

00:21:25.000 Yeah.

00:21:25.000 He dives on things.

00:21:27.000 Great transitions, yeah.

00:21:27.000 Why are leg legs changing Nogi?

00:21:30.000 Well, there's a whole path that took place, and one of the big parts of it was Dean Lister.

00:21:39.000 Dean Lister was one of the original leg lock guys in America, and super high-level black belt, Abu Dhabi champion.

00:21:45.000 I mean, Dean Lister's a beast.

00:21:47.000 Not as thick a human being is a He's about as thick as he gets.

00:21:50.000 He hasn't had the success lately that he had when he was younger, but make no mistake about it, his knowledge of grappling, super, super high level.

00:22:00.000 Well, he went down to Henzo's.

00:22:02.000 Who the fuck was fighting that he went down to Henzo's to help somebody out?

00:22:05.000 How long ago is this?

00:22:06.000 It was a while ago.

00:22:08.000 Goddammit, why don't I know the fucking...

00:22:10.000 Anyway, point being, he helped some guys down at Henzo's and showed them some of his leg lock stuff.

00:22:19.000 And that started with this John Donaher.

00:22:23.000 John Donaher, who's essentially one of the smartest guys in jiu-jitsu.

00:22:27.000 He might be a prophet.

00:22:28.000 He's a fucking genius.

00:22:30.000 When he comes to jiu-jitsu, he's a savant.

00:22:32.000 He's got a fucking awesome Instagram post today, I think, or maybe yesterday, about using the legs while grappling and how important it is to learn how to use your legs and how much more strength you have in your legs and endurance you have in your legs.

00:22:44.000 And if you get used...

00:22:46.000 Using your legs a lot in grappling how much quicker you can progress.

00:22:50.000 He used BJ Penn as an example.

00:22:51.000 He's also the same guy that will rock an Under Armour fit shirt with jeans at the bar.

00:22:56.000 He'll wear a rash guard to a wedding.

00:22:59.000 Oh, John?

00:23:00.000 That's what you're dealing with.

00:23:01.000 John's always in a rash guard, no matter what.

00:23:03.000 He's an animal.

00:23:04.000 But he does not give a fuck.

00:23:06.000 And he has rules that he'll give you as to when you should get married, and they're basically never.

00:23:11.000 But he goes over all the rules.

00:23:13.000 He gives the students rules?

00:23:14.000 Yeah, if you're over 50, and she's under 25, and she's worth millions of dollars, and she makes it so you don't have to work, and she brings in other women.

00:23:23.000 Yeah.

00:23:24.000 You look crazy.

00:23:25.000 He's got a great sense of humor.

00:23:27.000 He's always tongue in cheek.

00:23:28.000 He's always joking.

00:23:29.000 He's got his PhD in philosophy from Columbia.

00:23:33.000 Do you know how he got started?

00:23:34.000 Do you know how Donaher got started?

00:23:36.000 No, but I was there when John was...

00:23:38.000 When I was Hensos for the year, I would see John literally every day.

00:23:42.000 John was a bouncer.

00:23:43.000 And he was a big fucking power lifter dude.

00:23:46.000 What?

00:23:46.000 That's right.

00:23:47.000 And he wanted to learn how to do martial arts to protect himself.

00:23:50.000 And he's a real smart guy.

00:23:51.000 So he starts doing Jiu Jitsu and goes...

00:23:53.000 Oh!

00:23:54.000 Look, I found my life's work!

00:23:55.000 Ding!

00:23:55.000 Yes!

00:23:56.000 And then he gets super into it, becomes a black belt.

00:23:58.000 Not just, like, one of the most respected black belts, but starts coaching and teaching people.

00:24:02.000 Apparently he's got, like, some bad joints, man.

00:24:05.000 Like, real bad.

00:24:06.000 Like, he's got a bad hip and he had it replaced.

00:24:08.000 He's been doing it forever.

00:24:09.000 He's got a bad knee, but I think the knee is a genetic defect.

00:24:12.000 There he is.

00:24:12.000 Yeah.

00:24:14.000 He's so funny.

00:24:15.000 Fucking genius guy when it comes to jiu-jitsu.

00:24:17.000 Nicest guy, too.

00:24:18.000 The Donaher death squad, all those guys that he's got in New York out of Henzos, like Gary Tonin, like Eddie Cummins, all these super high-level leg-lock attack guys.

00:24:28.000 But by the way, Gary Tonin's having a submission grappling match against Hector motherfucking Lombard.

00:24:33.000 What?

00:24:34.000 Yes.

00:24:34.000 In what league?

00:24:35.000 I think it's Flo Grappling.

00:24:37.000 Flo Combat?

00:24:38.000 Is that what it is?

00:24:38.000 See if you can find that.

00:24:39.000 It's like Sonnen stuff?

00:24:41.000 I don't know.

00:24:42.000 I don't know.

00:24:42.000 It might be.

00:24:43.000 I hope it is.

00:24:44.000 Me too.

00:24:44.000 I hope for Chael that it is.

00:24:45.000 Me too.

00:24:45.000 Because that's an awesome matchup.

00:24:46.000 Sick.

00:24:46.000 That's a great...

00:24:47.000 And he just got done fighting Takino.

00:24:49.000 You know, he fought Husamara Palhares.

00:24:50.000 That's right.

00:24:50.000 Went to a draw.

00:24:51.000 Went to a draw with him.

00:24:51.000 And Palhares was...

00:24:53.000 Like Jack LaLanne in one of those late night commercials.

00:24:57.000 Hold on.

00:24:57.000 Like the old Pride days.

00:24:59.000 Look at that.

00:25:00.000 Okay, what is it?

00:25:01.000 Oh my god.

00:25:02.000 Is Jeff Glover in this too?

00:25:05.000 Who's Jeff Glover have an event with?

00:25:06.000 It's called Submission Underground.

00:25:08.000 Oh, Submission Underground.

00:25:09.000 Okay.

00:25:09.000 Is this Chael Sonnen's thing?

00:25:10.000 I feel like it is.

00:25:11.000 I feel like it is too.

00:25:12.000 Who's that giant guy?

00:25:15.000 That's Hector, bro.

00:25:16.000 That's Hector Lombard?

00:25:17.000 He's j-j-j-j-j-jacked!

00:25:18.000 I was gonna say, yeah.

00:25:19.000 Hector Lombard is...

00:25:21.000 Is he suspended for a while?

00:25:23.000 Yeah.

00:25:24.000 Dude, he was in some sweats.

00:25:25.000 I thought they were spray-painted on when I saw him.

00:25:27.000 Remember that?

00:25:28.000 Remember that in Vancouver?

00:25:29.000 We were together.

00:25:30.000 Sergio Pettis.

00:25:31.000 Sergio Pettis by decision.

00:25:33.000 Best ass I've ever seen.

00:25:34.000 Can you scroll up a little there?

00:25:35.000 What is this Dylan Dennis?

00:25:36.000 Jeff Glover's Chad Mendes?

00:25:38.000 What's this right here?

00:25:38.000 What's going on here?

00:25:39.000 John Jones Dennis.

00:25:40.000 Oh!

00:25:41.000 John Jones is taking on Dylan Dennis?

00:25:42.000 I don't know, it says it's a fan poster, so I don't know.

00:25:45.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:25:46.000 Oh, that's Boss Logic, that artist?

00:25:48.000 Might be the best in the world.

00:25:49.000 You've seen his posters?

00:25:50.000 Amazing.

00:25:50.000 He's the one that does all those crazy posters?

00:25:52.000 Dope, dope posters.

00:25:53.000 Oh, ridiculous.

00:25:54.000 Is he the one that did Conor McGregor in an MMA glove punching Floyd in the mouth?

00:25:57.000 Correct.

00:25:58.000 He also did the New York one with all the dope stuff.

00:26:01.000 Let me tell you, here's where Conor McGregor can win.

00:26:03.000 Here's where Conor McGregor can win.

00:26:05.000 MMA gloves.

00:26:07.000 Let's have a boxing match with MMA gloves.

00:26:09.000 I don't think you need to do that.

00:26:10.000 Well, Floyd's had some serious problems in the past with his hands.

00:26:14.000 Correct.

00:26:14.000 And he uses those big-ass pillow gloves because of it.

00:26:17.000 And he's been known to not really sit down on his punches.

00:26:19.000 He just picks guys apart.

00:26:20.000 There's no doubt about it.

00:26:21.000 Floyd is a masterful boxer.

00:26:23.000 But that's a big transition for him to fighting with small gloves.

00:26:27.000 He's never going to agree to that.

00:26:28.000 Just as big as the transition is for Conor to fight with bigger gloves.

00:26:31.000 Right.

00:26:31.000 You're right.

00:26:32.000 They're going to do boxing, but I honestly think with how Conor moves, don't get me wrong, Floyd's one of the best of all time, if not the best, but it's a lot for him to adapt to.

00:26:42.000 Conor's big, he hits fucking hard, he can go both ways.

00:26:45.000 We'll see.

00:26:46.000 We'll see.

00:26:47.000 I want to see what...

00:26:48.000 Look at all the work this guy puts in.

00:26:50.000 Oh, is he the one who did the fucking Joey Diaz and me?

00:26:53.000 Ha ha ha!

00:26:55.000 Fucking Calabeeb has got him!

00:26:57.000 Joey with his gum flying out of his mouth.

00:26:59.000 Your gun's flying out of your mouth.

00:27:01.000 His fucking gum's always flying out of his mouth!

00:27:04.000 Conor's not gonna really fight.

00:27:06.000 That's not gonna happen, that fight.

00:27:07.000 Hey dude, it's a lot of fucking money.

00:27:09.000 Here's the deal.

00:27:10.000 Floyd Mayweather's last pay-per-view made 300,000 bucks.

00:27:13.000 Dana had a real good point.

00:27:14.000 He goes, Conor's last two pay-per-views were 1.3 million and 1.5 million.

00:27:18.000 He goes, Floyd's was 300,000.

00:27:20.000 And it's a great point.

00:27:20.000 He goes, and Floyd's asking for 500 million, or 100 million rather.

00:27:24.000 He goes, you're out of your fucking mind.

00:27:25.000 He goes, here's a real deal.

00:27:26.000 I'll give you 25 million, I'll give Conor 25 million, and then we'll talk about pay-per-view after a certain amount.

00:27:31.000 And then you get 1,000 from Reebok.

00:27:33.000 You get 4,000.

00:27:35.000 It's not a championship fight, but it's a main event.

00:27:38.000 Boom!

00:27:39.000 Look at this.

00:27:39.000 Boom!

00:27:40.000 Hey, B, this is why it's getting serious, because Dana addresses it, made an offer on national TV. Floyd was on Showtime last night, and they go, is there any boxer that could bring you out of retirement?

00:27:50.000 He goes, nope.

00:27:51.000 The only fight that would get me out of retirement is Conor McGregor.

00:27:54.000 It's the only fight I want.

00:27:55.000 He knows there's so much money in that fight.

00:27:57.000 Conor McGregor is a goddamn giant.

00:27:59.000 I've been saying it's going to fucking happen.

00:28:01.000 But see, the thing is, that's a fight that would transcend into the total casual person.

00:28:05.000 Yes!

00:28:06.000 The same way the Ronda Rousey fights do, but even more so.

00:28:09.000 But that would dump on that.

00:28:10.000 This might be like 3 million.

00:28:12.000 This might be like 3 million.

00:28:13.000 Because it might be such a freak show that people would come out of the woodwork.

00:28:17.000 How is 3 or 4 million?

00:28:19.000 I think so.

00:28:19.000 He's going for it!

00:28:20.000 I'm getting nuts!

00:28:21.000 What's the most pay-per-view?

00:28:22.000 I never exaggerate.

00:28:23.000 What would you say is the biggest pay-per-view fight ever?

00:28:25.000 What was the number?

00:28:26.000 No.

00:28:26.000 1 of all time.

00:28:28.000 Pacquiao Mayweather, right?

00:28:29.000 Pacquiao Mayweather.

00:28:30.000 Is that the biggest of all time?

00:28:31.000 Isn't it?

00:28:32.000 Okay, but before we look at the numbers, let's guess.

00:28:35.000 I'm going to say 2.5.

00:28:37.000 Is that the biggest ever?

00:28:38.000 I'm going to say almost 3. It is for that fight.

00:28:43.000 It is for Pacquiao Mayweather?

00:28:44.000 Yeah, but you're off on the number.

00:28:46.000 What's the number?

00:28:46.000 I think it's five, right?

00:28:47.000 4.6 mil.

00:28:48.000 Wow!

00:28:50.000 That's why I'm saying Conor and them can beat that!

00:28:52.000 But damn, how much money did Mayweather make in that fight?

00:28:55.000 Revenue of 400 million.

00:28:56.000 Oh my Jesus!

00:28:57.000 So he probably made at least 100 plus million.

00:29:00.000 Didn't they say he made 150?

00:29:02.000 160 million?

00:29:03.000 Wow.

00:29:04.000 And Pacquiao made like 80 or 100. But him and Conor, you're getting...

00:29:08.000 Even if you hate Conor, you're still getting all those MMA fans because he represents us.

00:29:12.000 Even if you hate Floyd, you're getting all those boxing fans, even if you hate Floyd.

00:29:15.000 And then the two worlds just go, good douche!

00:29:18.000 Do you think that they can make it up to that level?

00:29:21.000 Oh, yeah.

00:29:22.000 Wow.

00:29:23.000 That's why Dana's entertaining it.

00:29:24.000 I want to know why Connor or how Connor isn't concerned he'll get knocked out in the first round.

00:29:29.000 He has nothing to lose.

00:29:30.000 He won't get knocked out in the first round.

00:29:32.000 No?

00:29:32.000 He won't get knocked out in the first round.

00:29:33.000 It doesn't work that way.

00:29:34.000 I mean, you can protect yourself against even somebody that good.

00:29:37.000 Connor's very high level and quick.

00:29:39.000 And also, Mayweather doesn't hit that hard.

00:29:42.000 Connor's a lot bigger.

00:29:44.000 Right.

00:29:44.000 Conor moves different than a lot of boxers do because he's so used to leg kicks, he's so used to takedowns, and he has a different stance.

00:29:51.000 That alone will take a little bit of time for Mayweather to adjust to, but Mayweather has the ability to be in the right place at the right time always, and it's so deceptive.

00:30:01.000 It's so deceptive because it doesn't look like he's doing anything special.

00:30:04.000 But if you watch the way he's moving, he's never out of position, and he's always popping you with that jab, and he's still, even at 37?

00:30:11.000 38?

00:30:11.000 No, he's 39, yeah?

00:30:13.000 Or he might be 40. Lightning fast.

00:30:15.000 He doesn't take, especially lately, though, he doesn't take advantage of getting out of the way.

00:30:19.000 He's winning rounds with the jab, then he's dicking and dodging, getting out of the way.

00:30:24.000 I think for Conor, though, man, it's a win-win for him.

00:30:28.000 Could you imagine...

00:30:30.000 If Conor lands the left hand...

00:30:32.000 That's what I'm saying!

00:30:34.000 It ain't gonna happen.

00:30:35.000 What would we do?

00:30:36.000 Hey man, listen.

00:30:37.000 Conor fought, I mean rather, Floyd fought Riccardo Mayorga.

00:30:42.000 Yeah.

00:30:42.000 No, not Riccardo Mayorga.

00:30:43.000 You're thinking of Madonna.

00:30:45.000 Who is Madonna?

00:30:45.000 Madonna.

00:30:45.000 Marco's Madonna, right?

00:30:46.000 Yes.

00:30:46.000 And Madonna connected at the end of one of the rounds.

00:30:49.000 He connected with a big fucking right hand and had him sit down for a second.

00:30:54.000 Yeah.

00:30:54.000 Did he hit him though?

00:30:55.000 Because I watched that fight.

00:30:57.000 He clipped him once.

00:30:58.000 It felt like he still caught a little shoulder, you know?

00:31:02.000 No, no, no.

00:31:03.000 It was really only once.

00:31:04.000 But it was the first fight.

00:31:04.000 The second fight, Floyd boxed his fucking face up.

00:31:07.000 Sugar Shane wobbled him, too, though.

00:31:09.000 See, and Maidana is, you know, murderous puncher.

00:31:12.000 And he would throw those crazy Chuck Liddell-style overhand rights.

00:31:15.000 So he's all over Floyd here.

00:31:18.000 And at the end of one of the rounds, amazing.

00:31:20.000 Look at him.

00:31:21.000 But listen, this guy is way smaller than Conor.

00:31:24.000 Let's think of this.

00:31:25.000 We're talking about a guy here that's fighting 147, 154. Conor, although he's made it down to 145, he's physically much larger than this guy.

00:31:33.000 Conor won't put a glove on him.

00:31:35.000 I love that you guys are talking about it.

00:31:36.000 He won't put a glove on him.

00:31:37.000 And he will not hit him.

00:31:39.000 And I think Floyd's going to do whatever he wants.

00:31:41.000 Hey, you want to bet Bryce lose every bet.

00:31:44.000 And you pay none of them off.

00:31:46.000 It's very strange.

00:31:48.000 To say that Conor McGregor is...

00:31:50.000 He won't land a shot?

00:31:51.000 No.

00:31:52.000 Can you pour me some more wine?

00:31:53.000 No, he certainly won't land a clean shot.

00:31:55.000 Nah, what do me and Joe know?

00:31:56.000 Pour me some more wine.

00:31:56.000 Well, what I do know is that great fighters haven't done it.

00:32:00.000 I mean, I know that he made Manny Pacquiao look clumsy.

00:32:03.000 I know that.

00:32:04.000 Sure.

00:32:05.000 Pacquiao had one arm.

00:32:06.000 I know that.

00:32:06.000 But look at this mauling.

00:32:07.000 But he's done it to everybody.

00:32:08.000 Oh, see, Maidana clipped him there with a left or a right uppercut, rather.

00:32:12.000 But at the end of one of the...

00:32:13.000 Oh, dude, he's a beautiful boxer.

00:32:14.000 Look at him.

00:32:15.000 Look at that.

00:32:15.000 Beautiful boxer.

00:32:16.000 Does whatever he wants.

00:32:17.000 Hey, man, you don't get to be 49-0 without being fucking sensational.

00:32:20.000 No.

00:32:20.000 You just don't.

00:32:21.000 He's the best defensive boxer of all time, right?

00:32:23.000 Yeah, I would say so.

00:32:24.000 I would say so.

00:32:26.000 He also hasn't fought in two years.

00:32:28.000 Pernell Whitaker lost later on in his career.

00:32:30.000 He wasn't able to sustain it as long as Mayweather has.

00:32:33.000 So what Mayweather's been able to do is sustain it better than anybody and also keep improving.

00:32:38.000 When he fought Canelo, a lot of people thought Canelo was going to give him a hard time.

00:32:43.000 Young Canelo is too big for him.

00:32:45.000 He fought Canelo up.

00:32:46.000 Okay, look at this.

00:32:47.000 They're having the ultimate fight.

00:32:48.000 They're having Cody and DJ and TJ to coach each other on the ultimate fighter or to coach opposite each other.

00:32:54.000 That's going to be amazing.

00:32:54.000 How much shit talking is going on in that season?

00:32:56.000 God, it's going to be Team Alpha Male versus TJ? Dude, the psychological damage he could take from that encounter.

00:33:03.000 I guess Cody has tape of him knocking out TJ in practice.

00:33:07.000 Yeah, that's what he keeps saying.

00:33:08.000 Yeah.

00:33:08.000 He wouldn't be saying it unless it was real.

00:33:09.000 No, he definitely has it.

00:33:11.000 Not that that really matters because it's practice, isn't it?

00:33:13.000 It kind of does.

00:33:17.000 I mean, it just kind of does.

00:33:19.000 It kind of does at the end of the day.

00:33:21.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, man, I'm a huge Floyd Mayweather fan of him, like, skill-wise as a boxer, and I think that he made it through prize-fighting better than anybody ever.

00:33:32.000 That's right.

00:33:32.000 And he takes top-ranked fighters.

00:33:34.000 I mean, the best in the world who are boxers, specifically.

00:33:37.000 And does anything he wants.

00:33:39.000 I've never seen anything like it.

00:33:40.000 Gentlemen, he hasn't fought in two years, and he's 40 now.

00:33:43.000 He's 40. Those things are all true.

00:33:46.000 I don't care.

00:33:47.000 I don't care.

00:33:48.000 Well, you're both right.

00:33:50.000 You're both right.

00:33:51.000 You're both right.

00:33:52.000 You know, I mean, that's what makes it so intriguing.

00:33:54.000 He is 40. Look, if he was in his prime and...

00:33:57.000 It's not a conversation.

00:33:59.000 Yeah, it's not really a conversation.

00:34:00.000 And, you know, Conor would most likely get boxed up.

00:34:03.000 It's just a different thing, man.

00:34:05.000 What Mayweather can do with his movement, like right there.

00:34:07.000 Oh, look at that.

00:34:08.000 I mean, it's just a different thing.

00:34:10.000 His language is...

00:34:11.000 You know what, man?

00:34:12.000 Look what Joe Smith Jr. did to Bernard Hopkins.

00:34:15.000 Exactly.

00:34:15.000 And Bernard Hopkins was like the untouchable man forever.

00:34:18.000 Now, granted, you're dealing with a...

00:34:19.000 He was 50. 11 years old.

00:34:20.000 He was 51, almost 52. Father Time, like Brendan was saying, Father Time sometimes will just go, he'll just tap you on the shoulder and just go, it's time now.

00:34:28.000 And that's when you get knocked out.

00:34:29.000 To everybody.

00:34:30.000 To everybody.

00:34:30.000 Undefeated.

00:34:31.000 Father Time is a motherfucker, and he just waits.

00:34:34.000 For now, I think within our lifetime, we're going to see Father Time start to take some L's.

00:34:38.000 Technology takes out Father Time, too?

00:34:41.000 I think what's going to happen is, do you know that there's a startup now that will fill your body with the blood of young people like a goddamn vampire?

00:34:48.000 What?

00:34:49.000 Give me some of that vampiro blood right now.

00:34:51.000 There's some fucking new research that's shown that if you take old blood from mice and put it in young mice, they slow down and get tired and they get sicker.

00:35:00.000 But if you take young blood from young mice and put it in old mice, they literally go back in time.

00:35:05.000 They reverse.

00:35:06.000 They get faster.

00:35:07.000 They have more energy to recover better.

00:35:08.000 They probably have more testosterone in their bodies and everything?

00:35:10.000 Yeah.

00:35:10.000 Yeah, that too.

00:35:11.000 Everything.

00:35:11.000 But not just that.

00:35:12.000 It's new cells.

00:35:13.000 Yeah, the age of the blood itself changes.

00:35:16.000 You got them old ass cells.

00:35:18.000 Hey bro, don't try biting me and sucking my blood.

00:35:21.000 How much is it, Jamie?

00:35:22.000 80,000?

00:35:22.000 8,000.

00:35:23.000 8,000 bucks to start up and fill your veins with the blood of young people.

00:35:27.000 Jamie, book an appointment.

00:35:29.000 The kid's going in.

00:35:30.000 No, we could just put a post on Instagram and get some young broads in LA and just drain them a hundred bucks for their blood.

00:35:37.000 That's a lot of estrogen in the blood, bro.

00:35:37.000 But you have to get the right blood.

00:35:39.000 You want a guy's blood, you don't want a girl's blood.

00:35:40.000 Get man blood.

00:35:43.000 Why did you say that?

00:35:45.000 Does it matter?

00:35:46.000 What if you get the blood?

00:35:47.000 Seriously, though.

00:35:48.000 Get man blood, bro.

00:35:50.000 Hashtag man blood.

00:35:51.000 But they check your blood.

00:35:52.000 Think about that.

00:35:53.000 They check your blood, and they find all these different things in your blood, right?

00:35:55.000 They can find steroids in your blood.

00:35:57.000 They find drugs in your blood.

00:35:58.000 They also find what your testosterone levels are and all sorts of different hormone levels.

00:36:02.000 If that's the case, then that means the blood must vary in its potency.

00:36:06.000 What you would do is you'd hire someone to live a monastic life of nothing but grass-fed muskox.

00:36:12.000 Like a little deal.

00:36:13.000 And broccoli.

00:36:14.000 And broccoli and fucking asparagus and shit.

00:36:17.000 You feed this guy all the best supplements and get his hormones just perfect.

00:36:23.000 You inject him with the drugs?

00:36:25.000 No, you drain him.

00:36:25.000 You take his blood and you pump it into you.

00:36:28.000 You pay him.

00:36:29.000 You pay him to give up a gallon of that blood.

00:36:31.000 Yeah.

00:36:33.000 How much blood does a person keep on them at any given time?

00:36:36.000 Eight pints, right?

00:36:36.000 Is that what it is?

00:36:37.000 Yeah, eight pints.

00:36:37.000 Because you can only donate, what, two or three before you get all lightheaded and have to drink OJ and shit?

00:36:41.000 I think one.

00:36:41.000 One or two.

00:36:42.000 Maybe one.

00:36:42.000 One.

00:36:42.000 So if these people are giving up their blood, I mean, are you getting the blood from, like, one guy and then another guy?

00:36:49.000 Well, one guy's a fucking...

00:36:50.000 I want it pure.

00:36:51.000 He's just napping, jerking off all day.

00:36:53.000 I want some pure blood.

00:36:54.000 They're going with this fake Conor McGregor guy getting this ad.

00:36:56.000 God damn it.

00:36:57.000 Selling video games.

00:36:58.000 Way too old for that haircut again.

00:36:59.000 Conor's dad.

00:37:00.000 With a mohawk.

00:37:00.000 Hey, this has to be in LA or fucking, or it's like in some dark part of Germany.

00:37:06.000 San Fran.

00:37:07.000 What?

00:37:07.000 It's in Monterey.

00:37:08.000 What is?

00:37:09.000 Well, I'm up there the first week of fucking February.

00:37:12.000 Jamie, book it.

00:37:13.000 The doctor used to be an Olympic rower.

00:37:15.000 We're doing cobs.

00:37:16.000 Hold on, say that again.

00:37:17.000 The doctor used to be an Olympic rower.

00:37:18.000 Yeah?

00:37:19.000 The girl that's running the trial.

00:37:20.000 Yeah?

00:37:21.000 That doesn't make me feel any better.

00:37:22.000 Well, is it a trial?

00:37:22.000 Do they have any results so far?

00:37:24.000 Have they done it?

00:37:24.000 Young Plasma clinical trial.

00:37:25.000 They're going to post results as they get them.

00:37:27.000 I don't want to be a guinea pig.

00:37:29.000 Yeah, man.

00:37:30.000 Oh, no, I need some legit shit.

00:37:31.000 It's new.

00:37:32.000 We're doing a...

00:37:33.000 Well, I'm gonna do that and then have that translated in my ear like an asshole.

00:37:36.000 Go ahead and have some of that.

00:37:37.000 Jeez, it's ridiculous.

00:37:37.000 I would normally say there's gotta be...

00:37:40.000 Don't chew in the microphone, Brian.

00:37:41.000 Jesus fucking Christ.

00:37:42.000 I would normally say that there's probably gotta be something to it, but...

00:37:48.000 On the heels of that Theranos thing, do you know about Theranos?

00:37:52.000 You don't know about that?

00:37:53.000 Oh my god.

00:37:55.000 Theranos is one of the most fascinating technology stories of the last year.

00:37:59.000 Theranos was this huge startup that was, they were working with Walgreens, and they had these contracts, I think with, I want to say with Costco too, I don't know who it was, but there was this woman, she was the Biggest self-made billionaire ever.

00:38:14.000 She was worth, at one point in time, some, like, $30 billion or something fucking crazy.

00:38:19.000 She was the female Steve Jobs, and she would dress like Steve Jobs.

00:38:23.000 Down to the turtleneck and the sweater, the whole deal.

00:38:26.000 Some bullshit.

00:38:26.000 No, no, worse than that.

00:38:29.000 It was all fraud.

00:38:31.000 Her company was bullshit.

00:38:32.000 The results were like 65% accurate, and they were trying to pass it off as being in the high 90s.

00:38:38.000 What was she selling?

00:38:39.000 They hid results.

00:38:40.000 It's a blood test.

00:38:42.000 All they would have to do is take a prick of your blood, and then with that blood, they can test you for a variety of different diseases.

00:38:49.000 So people were making critical health decisions based on this blood test that they had proof wasn't working correctly.

00:38:56.000 So one of the people that worked at Theranos became a whistleblower.

00:39:00.000 She went from being worth billions of dollars to being worth zero.

00:39:04.000 Because they sued her?

00:39:05.000 I'm sure she sued through the ass, too.

00:39:06.000 No, because the government stopped them from doing these tests.

00:39:09.000 She's getting sued through the ass, for sure.

00:39:11.000 I'm sure she has money in the bank, but that's going to go away.

00:39:13.000 No, there's no money anymore.

00:39:14.000 There's no money.

00:39:15.000 She didn't have personal money?

00:39:16.000 It doesn't matter.

00:39:17.000 It was stock money.

00:39:17.000 It's all gone.

00:39:20.000 Not only that, there's hundreds of millions of dollars in lawsuits.

00:39:23.000 I got a good bullshit leader.

00:39:24.000 But let me just explain what's happening.

00:39:25.000 So what happened was, everybody bought this package of who this person was.

00:39:29.000 This female Steve Jobs.

00:39:31.000 And they wanted to buy into it so hard.

00:39:34.000 And it became a marketing thing.

00:39:36.000 She was wearing black turtlenecks, man.

00:39:38.000 God damn it.

00:39:38.000 Damn it.

00:39:38.000 She was literally doing the Steve Jobs look.

00:39:40.000 I will kick that bitch in the titty and say that she had white new balances on it.

00:39:43.000 And here's where it all came down to.

00:39:44.000 It all came down to one really fucking clunky sentence that she said when she was trying to explain what went wrong.

00:39:52.000 See if you can pull up the Wired magazine article.

00:39:55.000 She said something.

00:39:56.000 And what she said was like, they explained how it worked.

00:39:59.000 And she goes, well, it's a chemistry that takes place and use incorrect terminology.

00:40:04.000 And so a writer started digging in.

00:40:06.000 And you realize she didn't know what she was talking about.

00:40:08.000 I saw a speech that she gave at this women's conference thing, this women's empowerment thing.

00:40:14.000 And when I was watching her talk, I'm like, God, her thoughts are so cluttered.

00:40:17.000 It's like she didn't know she was going to give a speech, and she's giving this speech.

00:40:21.000 By the way, this fight is a good fight for two reasons.

00:40:23.000 I haven't seen Holt.

00:40:24.000 One, because Ben Saunders is fucking wicked on the ground, especially off of his back.

00:40:27.000 And two, because Court McGee has incredible stamina.

00:40:31.000 I mean, incredible.

00:40:33.000 He works out at...

00:40:34.000 Yeah, and he's at the pit elevated, which is up there in Utah, high elevation, and the fucking guy is just relentless with his cardio.

00:40:42.000 I haven't seen him in a while either.

00:40:44.000 He's taking a little time off.

00:40:46.000 So Ben has had more problems with his stamina, and I hope he's corrected that.

00:40:52.000 Ben's nasty in the clinch, man.

00:40:54.000 He is.

00:40:55.000 He's very nasty with knees, and he's super good off of his back.

00:40:58.000 Like one of the best guys off of his back.

00:40:59.000 He's long too, man.

00:41:01.000 He's got those mutton chops.

00:41:02.000 Do you see the statement, Jamie?

00:41:05.000 I don't see an exact statement.

00:41:06.000 There's an article that said that came out.

00:41:07.000 Ben's a huge 170. He kind of started it all.

00:41:09.000 He started the whole problem, and then they followed that article.

00:41:13.000 First of all, if you buy anything from a lady dressed as a fake Steve Jobs, you're fucked already.

00:41:21.000 I would walk in, like, oh, she's dressed like Steve Jobs.

00:41:23.000 See you later.

00:41:25.000 What's the headline?

00:41:26.000 Pull up the headline of this article so I can see if that's the right one.

00:41:28.000 No, go to the top.

00:41:29.000 Go to the top.

00:41:32.000 Everything.

00:41:33.000 No, that's not it.

00:41:34.000 Let's find her and get her blood.

00:41:36.000 No, her blood is filled with debt.

00:41:38.000 She's fucked.

00:41:39.000 Yeah, she's fucked, man.

00:41:41.000 Negativity?

00:41:41.000 Hey, think about that phone call when they called her that it's all out.

00:41:45.000 Wall Street Journal did an article about it, exposing it, and then Vanity Fair did an article exposing it.

00:41:50.000 Where do you get your news from, bro?

00:41:51.000 That's what she should have said.

00:41:53.000 Fake news.

00:41:54.000 Eddie, quick!

00:41:55.000 Hire Eddie Bravo.

00:41:57.000 Did you see Trump said that to CNN? Yeah.

00:41:59.000 He wouldn't answer CNN. He said, you're fake news.

00:42:02.000 In front of them.

00:42:03.000 Like, nope, not answering fake news.

00:42:05.000 So bad for CNN. And you know what?

00:42:08.000 In this case, he's right.

00:42:09.000 They talked about unsubstantiated reports.

00:42:12.000 I mean, they basically were spreading propaganda for whoever the fuck invented it, whether it's a troll or whether it's a government organization.

00:42:20.000 Yeah, not good.

00:42:22.000 Not good.

00:42:23.000 You know, and Trump had a really good point.

00:42:25.000 I kind of like that.

00:42:26.000 He had a really good point, too.

00:42:27.000 He's like, everybody knows I'm a germaphobe.

00:42:29.000 He goes, I'm not hiring people to pee on me or pee on anybody.

00:42:31.000 Like, what the fuck are you talking about?

00:42:33.000 Yeah, that was ridiculous.

00:42:34.000 Well, apparently that guy, that ex-British operative, wasn't he hired by...

00:42:40.000 I think certain Democratic super PACs are somebody like that to discredit Trump.

00:42:44.000 I mean, it's basically...

00:42:45.000 And he came up with a golden shower party?

00:42:48.000 It's just so uncreative.

00:42:49.000 I bought that shit.

00:42:50.000 Did you?

00:42:50.000 I did.

00:42:51.000 I was like, damn, he likes to party.

00:42:53.000 Saunders is looking good on the outside, man.

00:42:55.000 Looking good with those...

00:42:56.000 I gave it to Rogan.

00:42:57.000 I'm not eating while the podcast's going.

00:42:59.000 I'm a professional.

00:43:00.000 God, you are a professional.

00:43:01.000 You're so disciplined.

00:43:01.000 That's some of the best cheese you've ever tried.

00:43:02.000 I'm here to work, bro.

00:43:03.000 It's gotta be some of the best cheese, right?

00:43:05.000 Is it raw milk cheese?

00:43:06.000 Sure is.

00:43:06.000 Wow, you are an artisan lover.

00:43:09.000 I don't tolerate cow milk as well as I tolerate goat milk.

00:43:14.000 Court has had some serious fucking injuries, man.

00:43:16.000 He's had some battles.

00:43:17.000 Didn't he have like a serious hand injury?

00:43:20.000 He had something really wrong with his hand.

00:43:21.000 He took like two years off.

00:43:23.000 Yeah.

00:43:24.000 I want to say it was a hand injury.

00:43:26.000 Ben Saunders got cut from the UFC. This is his first fight back, huh?

00:43:30.000 No, no, no, no.

00:43:31.000 No, he's had more than one fight back, I believe.

00:43:33.000 No, his last fight was in some weird location in Wisconsin.

00:43:36.000 Oh, he went back again?

00:43:37.000 Really?

00:43:38.000 Pretty sure.

00:43:39.000 Can you confirm that, Jamie?

00:43:40.000 I'm pretty sure, though.

00:43:40.000 You know what?

00:43:41.000 I think you're right.

00:43:42.000 This is his third run with the UFC, then.

00:43:44.000 Yeah.

00:43:45.000 Wow.

00:43:45.000 He's looking good, man.

00:43:46.000 And Court's caught.

00:43:47.000 Court's caught over that left eye.

00:43:48.000 See, but here's the thing.

00:43:50.000 What's the matter?

00:43:51.000 No?

00:43:52.000 Fight night.

00:43:53.000 Fight night at the island is what it was called.

00:43:55.000 I'm sorry.

00:43:55.000 Yeah, UFC didn't do those.

00:43:56.000 He had a fight earlier last year.

00:43:57.000 Oh, he had a fight.

00:43:58.000 UFC fight night 81, January 2016, and then September he fought.

00:44:02.000 Fight night at the island.

00:44:04.000 In Wisconsin, though, yeah?

00:44:05.000 Versus Volkman.

00:44:06.000 Oh, Jacob Volkman.

00:44:08.000 Yeah, Jacob Volkman.

00:44:10.000 That was outside the UFC. There's no UFC island in Minnesota.

00:44:14.000 Yeah, Volkman is a guy from Minnesota.

00:44:17.000 Remember that guy?

00:44:18.000 Yeah, good grappler, man.

00:44:19.000 Real good grappler.

00:44:20.000 He was winning fights, too.

00:44:22.000 Yeah.

00:44:23.000 He was one of the guys that called out Obama after...

00:44:26.000 He had been visited by the Secret Service.

00:44:27.000 Oh, that's right.

00:44:28.000 Because he called out Obama because he fucking...

00:44:30.000 Obamacare basically killed his business.

00:44:32.000 Damn.

00:44:33.000 Really?

00:44:33.000 A lot of small doctors, small practices apparently suffered from Obamacare.

00:44:38.000 If you talk to Volkman about it, he's very, very vocal about it.

00:44:41.000 Very upset.

00:44:42.000 Vocal as he can be, yeah.

00:44:43.000 Yeah, I don't...

00:44:44.000 You know what, man?

00:44:45.000 There's not enough shit...

00:44:46.000 And not enough time, rather, in the world to pay attention to everything.

00:44:49.000 And when you're paying attention to things that...

00:44:52.000 Like, you know, Obamacare.

00:44:54.000 If you want to really go through how it affects all these doctors, you'll just probably go crazy and start feeling sad for all these people that got fucked over.

00:45:00.000 Look up how long, how big the bill was.

00:45:02.000 The initial bill I think was 2,400 pages.

00:45:04.000 2,400 pages?

00:45:06.000 Who's gonna read that?

00:45:07.000 Nobody.

00:45:07.000 Nobody read it.

00:45:08.000 Isn't that part of the problem?

00:45:09.000 I think two people, two journalists read it and they broke it down.

00:45:12.000 And I tried to read that and it was hard.

00:45:14.000 Think about that gig.

00:45:16.000 Not so fun.

00:45:17.000 No.

00:45:17.000 Definitely not like doing a podcast.

00:45:19.000 No.

00:45:19.000 They probably didn't get paid much for that.

00:45:20.000 Nope.

00:45:22.000 Yeah, they probably got on a secret FBI list, too.

00:45:24.000 They probably didn't smoke weed and drink wine with their friends.

00:45:27.000 No, they did it.

00:45:28.000 They read the whole thing, broke it down.

00:45:31.000 I read that, and I read it again, and I still didn't really understand it.

00:45:35.000 You read their summary?

00:45:36.000 I read the summary.

00:45:37.000 How long was their summary?

00:45:38.000 It was long enough.

00:45:39.000 No, it was long.

00:45:41.000 It was long enough for me to be terribly bored.

00:45:43.000 So what is the main beef?

00:45:47.000 Is that it makes employers spend more money on insurance for their employees, right?

00:45:52.000 No, because you can opt out.

00:45:53.000 You can get people...

00:45:55.000 I know that I've talked to business owners about...

00:45:59.000 So you can give them an option, I guess.

00:46:03.000 So in other words, if you're a full-time employee, I have to pay all of your insurance.

00:46:08.000 So one of the side effects is that Companies will say, well, if it means I have to hire you for 40 hours a week or 30 hours a week is full time, I'm going to hire you for 18 hours a week and hire somebody else for 9 hours a week.

00:46:25.000 So both of you guys have to work part time.

00:46:26.000 So what does that do to the busboy or guys like that?

00:46:29.000 They really need that full time work.

00:46:31.000 Right.

00:46:31.000 So now they can only work part-time because the company can't afford to hire him full-time because there's some kind of a mandate.

00:46:37.000 Either he's got to pay a $2,000-something fine in not paying his health care, or he's got to pay for his health care.

00:46:44.000 So there are certain mandated things.

00:46:45.000 And the problem, I don't know enough about it, and I think it has helped some people.

00:46:49.000 That's right, though, B, because I know people who are affected by that.

00:46:52.000 Yeah, and I know people who need it, and there are about 20 million people that are on it now or something crazy, and they benefit from it, so it's a tough issue.

00:47:03.000 So who's benefiting from it?

00:47:04.000 The people that drafted it were probably not very business savvy.

00:47:08.000 They were probably bureaucrats and not necessarily small business savvy.

00:47:10.000 They didn't realize they were going to take advantage of some of the rules.

00:47:13.000 Right, that someone would figure out a loophole.

00:47:14.000 So who does benefit from it?

00:47:17.000 People who can't afford healthcare, people who get a condition, for example, and then the insurance company drops them.

00:47:24.000 You know, there are a lot of people that had healthcare, they get a very serious illness, and they get dropped.

00:47:29.000 And then they say, if you really want healthcare now, try getting healthcare when you've got a life-threatening disease.

00:47:35.000 So it does help a lot of people.

00:47:38.000 The problem is, once again, who pays for it?

00:47:42.000 Oh, ooh.

00:47:44.000 How do you get doctors to do it?

00:47:46.000 There's all kinds of things.

00:47:49.000 What do you think is the solution?

00:47:51.000 As a civilized society, do you think that everybody should have healthcare?

00:47:54.000 Personally, I do.

00:47:55.000 I get more that way as I get older.

00:47:56.000 However, I also think one of the culprits is a lack of competition among states.

00:48:03.000 And the reason for that is this.

00:48:05.000 So, you're not really able to shop for insurance across state lines.

00:48:09.000 Why?

00:48:09.000 Because insurance companies basically have their territory that they all agree not to encroach upon.

00:48:15.000 Okay?

00:48:16.000 So that's another part.

00:48:18.000 They just agree to it?

00:48:19.000 Yeah!

00:48:20.000 They all agree, right?

00:48:21.000 This is my garbage route.

00:48:23.000 That's your garbage route.

00:48:24.000 Don't mess with my business.

00:48:24.000 I won't mess with your business.

00:48:25.000 What we need to do is have competition.

00:48:28.000 One of the ideas is to have competition among all the insurance companies and to the lowest bidder goes the spoils.

00:48:34.000 So now if I can't get insurance in California, maybe somebody in Hawaii, maybe somebody in Tennessee is offering insurance for less.

00:48:44.000 We're missing a real good fight right here.

00:48:45.000 Yeah, we are.

00:48:46.000 In the UK, don't they get free health insurance?

00:48:49.000 Yes, they do.

00:48:49.000 And I heard it sucks for them.

00:48:50.000 Yes, it does.

00:48:50.000 Because if something goes wrong, they have to wait, like, for fucking ever to get seen.

00:48:55.000 Not only that, look at the innovation in healthcare.

00:48:59.000 The innovation in new drugs and all that is here in this country.

00:49:02.000 It's the same issue with Canada.

00:49:04.000 Some people tell you it's awesome, they have free healthcare, but I've had friends that had surgery up there by subpar doctors, and they've had to go in second and third time to fix things.

00:49:12.000 Or they have to wait nine months before they get their office.

00:49:14.000 That's the big thing, the wait.

00:49:16.000 So a lot of them that have money wind up coming to America to get surgery from American surgeons, but I don't know, man.

00:49:21.000 But also the innovation in medical technology, most of it happens in this country, and the theory is because there's more profit to be made.

00:49:28.000 Yeah, well, that's where innovation gives birth.

00:49:32.000 Yes.

00:49:33.000 I mean, they have to have incentive in order to spend money.

00:49:35.000 In order to come up with things like this, whoa, this is a good fucking fight, man.

00:49:41.000 Real veteran scrap.

00:49:42.000 I'm amazed at how good Saunders is looking on the outside, like able to slide in and out using his reach.

00:49:47.000 I'm more impressed with Corda, how he's just making a dogfight.

00:49:50.000 Every fight he fights in is a dogfight.

00:49:52.000 That guy's a beast.

00:49:54.000 Didn't he like die from meth or some shit and then came back?

00:49:56.000 Yeah, from some drug.

00:49:57.000 Heroin or something?

00:49:58.000 Something like that.

00:49:58.000 He was homeless too, I think.

00:49:59.000 Yeah, he's been to the other side.

00:50:02.000 We call it the dark side.

00:50:04.000 Him and Matt Brown both have like that similar quality.

00:50:07.000 I spoke to him for a while one time, and he's such a smart, nice guy.

00:50:12.000 He's such a fucking nice guy.

00:50:13.000 Smart dude, too.

00:50:14.000 He struck me as very intelligent.

00:50:16.000 Yeah, when he gets out of this, he's going to do well for himself in life with whatever he chooses to do.

00:50:22.000 I hope he doesn't wait too long to get out.

00:50:24.000 And Ben Saunders is a really nice guy.

00:50:25.000 We had dinner with him that time.

00:50:26.000 Great guy.

00:50:27.000 He's been on The Companion.

00:50:28.000 And Eddie's there with him right now.

00:50:29.000 That's why Eddie's not here.

00:50:30.000 Eddie's right there in his corner.

00:50:31.000 That's Eddie, right below him.

00:50:33.000 He's, well, remember Tower 7. Chemtrails.

00:50:37.000 Remember.

00:50:38.000 Tell them about Pizzagate right now.

00:50:40.000 He's worked with Ben extensively, especially on his guard.

00:50:44.000 Ben's guard is wicked.

00:50:45.000 Ben's the only guy to ever get an omoplata in the UFC. And his guard is fucking super high level.

00:50:50.000 And he's also got the perfect build for it because he's so long and tall.

00:50:54.000 And he spends a lot of time with Eddie.

00:50:57.000 I wonder if 70 is too much of a cut of diminishing returns.

00:51:00.000 He's so fucking big.

00:51:01.000 No, no, he's okay.

00:51:02.000 He's okay at 70. You know, when we joke around about Eddie, but Eddie's my boy, and he's like legitimately one of the very best jujitsu instructors on the planet Earth.

00:51:12.000 Yeah.

00:51:13.000 He's amazing at it.

00:51:14.000 I don't think anyone gets that twisted, do they?

00:51:16.000 Well, they do sometimes because they hear the conspiracy theory talk and they just sort of dismiss everything.

00:51:21.000 But people love to do that, you know?

00:51:24.000 Like...

00:51:25.000 Eddie loves conspiracies.

00:51:26.000 That's his shit, you know?

00:51:27.000 That's what he's into.

00:51:28.000 Who gives a fuck?

00:51:29.000 His jiu-jitsu is top-notch.

00:51:31.000 Yeah.

00:51:32.000 Top-notch.

00:51:32.000 He's one of the best professors in the world.

00:51:35.000 His gym's all over.

00:51:36.000 He's a super successful guy.

00:51:37.000 But he's not teaching jiu-jitsu in here.

00:51:39.000 His innovation, too.

00:51:40.000 What's this hot-looking Japanese girl doing?

00:51:43.000 What's this commercial?

00:51:45.000 Oh, she's leaving him.

00:51:46.000 Oh, shit.

00:51:47.000 She's going to a black guy's house.

00:51:48.000 Hey!

00:51:49.000 Whoa.

00:51:51.000 Marvin Eastman's waiting on the other side.

00:51:53.000 You went old school.

00:51:55.000 Marvin Eastman.

00:51:56.000 Marvin Eastman was a tank.

00:51:58.000 He really was a tanky tank.

00:51:59.000 Maybe Bobby Lashley's texting her right there.

00:52:03.000 Speaking of tanks.

00:52:06.000 Bobby Lashley's ridiculous.

00:52:08.000 He's just huge.

00:52:09.000 You know who's ridiculous?

00:52:11.000 He's fighting soon.

00:52:12.000 It's Francis Ngannot.

00:52:14.000 He's fighting Orlovsky, right?

00:52:16.000 He's ridiculous.

00:52:16.000 His first big test.

00:52:18.000 Where is he fighting Orlovsky?

00:52:19.000 Is that Brooklyn?

00:52:20.000 In the Congo.

00:52:23.000 That's crazy.

00:52:24.000 The last bottle of malaria medication.

00:52:26.000 Yeah, they're going to airdrop in the middle of the Congo.

00:52:28.000 It's definitely not Congo, and it's not Brooklyn, because that'd be a great fucking card to be on.

00:52:33.000 Why not put them on there?

00:52:34.000 They should put them on there, but I think they're headlining a card.

00:52:37.000 Then it's fight pass, huh?

00:52:38.000 I think it's a fight pass.

00:52:39.000 Oh, God damn it.

00:52:41.000 Oh, it's in Denver?

00:52:41.000 Why would they put heavyweights in Denver?

00:52:43.000 Oh, in Denver.

00:52:44.000 It's on Fox.

00:52:44.000 See, that's how you know Joe Silva's gone, because after Mark Hunt fought Ben Rothwell, I asked for a fight in Denver, he goes, we will never let heavyweights fight in Denver again.

00:52:53.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:52:53.000 Just because guys can't deal with the thinness of the air.

00:52:54.000 Did you see Ben Rothwell, Mark Hunt?

00:52:56.000 Yeah.

00:52:57.000 Oof.

00:52:57.000 Too exhausted.

00:52:58.000 They gas out hard.

00:52:59.000 Meanwhile, then they have fucking Kane versus Verdum in Mexico City, which is 2,000 feet above fucking Denver.

00:53:04.000 Oh.

00:53:04.000 See, I don't think that's our boy Joe Silva doing that.

00:53:07.000 He knows better.

00:53:08.000 What, Mexico City?

00:53:09.000 Yes.

00:53:09.000 Yeah.

00:53:10.000 The new guy's like, ah, they'll figure it out.

00:53:11.000 But no, but Mexico City was, well, Joe Silva was there.

00:53:14.000 Damn, Sam Alvey and Nick Martin.

00:53:15.000 I know, but he doesn't make the title fights.

00:53:18.000 Oh, that's right.

00:53:19.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:53:19.000 Okay.

00:53:20.000 That's crazy.

00:53:21.000 Oh, shit.

00:53:22.000 Nate, Sam.

00:53:22.000 So, this is funny.

00:53:23.000 Nate was Sam's coach on Ultimate Fighter.

00:53:26.000 Like, they were training partners in his coach.

00:53:27.000 Wow.

00:53:29.000 You know, guys sleep on Nate, you know, which is interesting.

00:53:32.000 Like C.B. Dalloway went chasing after Nate like Nate's done.

00:53:35.000 And Nate uncorked one on him and knocked him out cold.

00:53:37.000 I mean, he's on the back nine for sure.

00:53:39.000 For sure.

00:53:40.000 We're walking him out to the pat down.

00:53:41.000 One of the greats, though.

00:53:42.000 But you can't fuck around.

00:53:43.000 His nickname's the great.

00:53:44.000 He's still a powerhouse.

00:53:46.000 Yeah, power's the last thing to go, yeah.

00:53:47.000 Last thing to go.

00:53:48.000 He's a super vet.

00:53:50.000 He's been fighting since he was 17. 17 years old.

00:53:53.000 So crazy.

00:53:54.000 I was just with Eve Edwards who started fighting when he was 17. Eve was at our show, right?

00:53:58.000 Yeah.

00:53:59.000 Eve is remarkably well composed.

00:54:02.000 Oh yeah, he's so smart.

00:54:03.000 He's doing stunts now.

00:54:05.000 Stunts for movies?

00:54:06.000 That's a dangerous gig.

00:54:08.000 Not really.

00:54:09.000 Yeah, someone died on a Steven Seagal movie, dude.

00:54:11.000 Stunt?

00:54:12.000 That's all you need to know.

00:54:13.000 No, being a stuntman is super dangerous.

00:54:15.000 Yeah, super dangerous.

00:54:16.000 Your friend Karen.

00:54:17.000 Yeah, depends on the show.

00:54:18.000 You can do TV and you're running through sugar glass and stuff.

00:54:22.000 Some of it's cushy.

00:54:24.000 Like, the Goldbergs doesn't have a lot of big stunts, you know.

00:54:27.000 You have stunt guys on your show?

00:54:28.000 Yeah.

00:54:28.000 For falls, for wrestling, all that kind of stuff.

00:54:31.000 Hey man, what's going on with your show?

00:54:32.000 Are you doing a pilot?

00:54:33.000 Are you doing a spinoff from the Goldbergs?

00:54:35.000 I'm doing a spinoff starting in March, I think.

00:54:37.000 That's beautiful, man.

00:54:38.000 Congratulations.

00:54:39.000 Thanks, buddy.

00:54:39.000 You excited about that?

00:54:40.000 I am excited about it.

00:54:41.000 You going to do table reads, all that stuff?

00:54:42.000 All that stuff.

00:54:44.000 It's the greatest job.

00:54:44.000 It's the easiest job.

00:54:45.000 It's the best job in the world.

00:54:46.000 Let me come on and play your retarded brother.

00:54:48.000 I love it.

00:54:49.000 I would love it.

00:54:50.000 I want to do it, man.

00:54:51.000 They'd have you on.

00:54:52.000 Dude, come on, man.

00:54:52.000 Are you kidding me?

00:54:53.000 You would do it, Joe?

00:54:54.000 Yeah, he played my brother on his radio.

00:54:56.000 I owe him one.

00:54:56.000 Oh, I love it.

00:54:57.000 Him and Nick DiPaolo and Epstein from Welcome Back, Cotter.

00:55:00.000 They were my brothers.

00:55:00.000 They all beat the fuck out of me.

00:55:02.000 They threw me through a place glass window.

00:55:03.000 I had to throw myself through one of those sugar glass windows.

00:55:06.000 It's freaky, man.

00:55:07.000 Really?

00:55:07.000 It looks like a real window.

00:55:09.000 Are you scared a little bit?

00:55:09.000 I was a little nervous.

00:55:10.000 I bet.

00:55:10.000 You had such a great time on that show, didn't you?

00:55:12.000 So much fun.

00:55:13.000 Yeah.

00:55:14.000 Do you stay in touch with any of those guys?

00:55:16.000 Just Dave, mostly Dave Foley.

00:55:18.000 How's Dave doing?

00:55:19.000 And Steven Rude if I see him, and Candy.

00:55:21.000 I've seen Candy since, you know, it's always great when I run into him.

00:55:24.000 Damn!

00:55:25.000 Oh, Phil Hartman.

00:55:26.000 And that's Callan right there?

00:55:27.000 That's me, buddy.

00:55:28.000 Callan and me.

00:55:29.000 You got a head on you there, Callan.

00:55:31.000 He threw me through a window, or did Nick.

00:55:33.000 One of you guys threw me through a window.

00:55:34.000 It was so much fun.

00:55:35.000 Do you miss acting at all, Joe?

00:55:37.000 No.

00:55:37.000 Nothing about it?

00:55:38.000 Nope.

00:55:39.000 Not at all.

00:55:39.000 Not a thing.

00:55:40.000 It takes too much time.

00:55:42.000 I'm not into doing it.

00:55:45.000 You do it with actors, which is never the best thing to do.

00:55:49.000 The actors on your show were so good.

00:55:50.000 They were great.

00:55:51.000 Mora Tierney, Steven Rood, Phil Hartman.

00:55:53.000 That's part of the reason.

00:55:56.000 Ben Sarnes went for that leg, but didn't quite get to it quick enough.

00:55:58.000 Andy Dick is hilarious.

00:55:59.000 This is super dangerous for court, even though there's not much time left.

00:56:02.000 And I feel like he's winning the fight.

00:56:03.000 I wouldn't mess with it.

00:56:04.000 I don't know about that.

00:56:05.000 I think Ben is winning the stand-up, but he's on top right here, so we'll see.

00:56:08.000 I don't know.

00:56:08.000 Okay, see, here it is.

00:56:09.000 Dangerous.

00:56:09.000 Here's the wrap-up.

00:56:11.000 Look at this.

00:56:12.000 Let's see.

00:56:12.000 Oh, wow.

00:56:13.000 Court shook it off quick.

00:56:15.000 Ben went for the transition.

00:56:17.000 He went for the transition to clear the neck.

00:56:19.000 Be a honey lamb chop and put a little wine in there.

00:56:21.000 Be a little honey lamb chop.

00:56:23.000 Be a little humming lamb chop.

00:56:24.000 I wonder who's winning this fight since we weren't really paying total suspension.

00:56:27.000 See, I have Court winning it.

00:56:29.000 Court's doing good ground and pound here.

00:56:31.000 See, Ben had that position, man, for a very short period.

00:56:33.000 Okay, now he's wrapping it up again.

00:56:35.000 Let's see what he can do.

00:56:36.000 But it's not high enough.

00:56:37.000 Okay, now it's better.

00:56:38.000 Oh, look at this.

00:56:39.000 What is that now?

00:56:40.000 This is called a dead orchard.

00:56:42.000 He's got both arms trapped.

00:56:43.000 Long legs!

00:56:44.000 Both arms trapped inside the triangle.

00:56:45.000 This is named after Nathan Orchard.

00:56:47.000 This is called a dead orchard.

00:56:49.000 But the problem is, can he submit from here?

00:56:52.000 Because a lot of times, he had guys stuck in here, like Kenny Rogerson.

00:56:56.000 No, Kenny Roberts.

00:56:57.000 He had him stuck in here, but he couldn't fit him.

00:57:01.000 It's going to be tough to finish Court McGee out of this.

00:57:03.000 It's not going to finish him now.

00:57:04.000 He's on the foot.

00:57:05.000 See, he's on the toes, on the back of the calf.

00:57:07.000 You really want to get deep in on the ankle on this.

00:57:10.000 And even so, it's just not there for him.

00:57:12.000 He doesn't have much time to work here.

00:57:14.000 Now it's totally gone.

00:57:15.000 He can do damage there with elbows, but you're not going to win the fight.

00:57:18.000 And Court dropped some elbows on him.

00:57:19.000 Court just cut him.

00:57:23.000 Oh, man.

00:57:24.000 Yeah, Kort's on top of him, and he's tired now, too.

00:57:26.000 You know, I think he's gonna try to switch to a leg.

00:57:29.000 He's in half guard here.

00:57:31.000 He's gonna try to go to the underhook on that left leg and slide under, but in the meantime, he's taking some shots.

00:57:40.000 Kort's trying to darts him up.

00:57:41.000 He is.

00:57:42.000 And with guys who are long, it's easier to get when they're long.

00:57:45.000 Does that make sense?

00:57:45.000 So they're really good at them, but they're also easier to get caught in.

00:57:48.000 Yep, you're totally right.

00:57:49.000 Damn, Kort's doing work.

00:57:50.000 Yeah, big finish to the fight for Kort.

00:57:53.000 Kort is such a warrior, man.

00:57:55.000 Every fight's just...

00:57:57.000 It's never easy for him, is it?

00:57:58.000 It's just a scrap.

00:58:00.000 That's what he likes.

00:58:01.000 Interesting, man.

00:58:02.000 Very interesting.

00:58:04.000 He looks like an Islamic cleric.

00:58:06.000 I wish we were paying more attention.

00:58:08.000 Me too.

00:58:08.000 In the 30 seconds I saw, I'd probably give it to Court with aggression.

00:58:11.000 And then the takedown at the end?

00:58:12.000 I don't know, Mems, because I think Ben was winning on the outside earlier in the fight.

00:58:17.000 Interesting.

00:58:18.000 But that round, that last round was big for Court.

00:58:21.000 That was the most we watched, so I kind of gave it to Court.

00:58:25.000 I don't know what we do here.

00:58:26.000 They're fucking terrible.

00:58:27.000 Or you, me, and Eddie would be arguing, and Brian's watching, and Brian would drop some serious knowledge, and we discredit it.

00:58:35.000 Well, shut up!

00:58:36.000 You're not watching either!

00:58:37.000 And he's spot on!

00:58:38.000 I get nothing!

00:58:40.000 I'm watching every beat, and I'm like that, and you're like, shut up!

00:58:43.000 No, he didn't!

00:58:44.000 And I'm like, what did I do?

00:58:45.000 What the fuck were we just talking about before that?

00:58:48.000 Any idea?

00:58:49.000 Yeah.

00:58:50.000 We were talking...

00:58:52.000 It's tough to get back to.

00:58:53.000 We need a court stenographer in here.

00:58:55.000 I know.

00:58:55.000 To pull up records.

00:58:56.000 It's true.

00:58:57.000 In Millie's.

00:58:58.000 I want to start taking a pistol class.

00:59:02.000 Fucking do it, man.

00:59:03.000 What do you want to do?

00:59:04.000 Oh, we were talking about acting.

00:59:05.000 I just got to be ready.

00:59:06.000 I want you to get back into acting.

00:59:08.000 Oh, my spinoff.

00:59:09.000 We were talking about my spinoff.

00:59:10.000 No, I'll do Brian's show.

00:59:11.000 The last thing I did is a Kevin James movie because Kevin's my buddy.

00:59:14.000 I heard you were good in that, though.

00:59:15.000 It's fun.

00:59:16.000 I want you to do my...

00:59:17.000 It'd be great.

00:59:18.000 You come on my show.

00:59:19.000 Brandon, let me look at you.

00:59:20.000 You're not ready.

00:59:22.000 I loved it because I got to work with Leslie Bibb from Talladega Nights.

00:59:27.000 Which one's that?

00:59:29.000 She's the girlfriend.

00:59:31.000 Oh, she's the girlfriend?

00:59:32.000 Oh, she's hilarious.

00:59:34.000 She's like, and you're going to get on that car.

00:59:36.000 You're going to ride it like a pony.

00:59:37.000 She's fucking hilarious in real life.

00:59:40.000 In real life, like hanging out talking to her.

00:59:42.000 She's hilarious.

00:59:44.000 She's so fucking silly.

00:59:45.000 She's really silly, really smart, really good actress.

00:59:48.000 Your boy Kevin has a new show out.

00:59:50.000 He's back to acting.

00:59:51.000 He's like a straight-up series sitcom.

00:59:52.000 And he did a movie on Netflix.

00:59:53.000 He did a movie on Netflix, and now he's doing a series on CBS that apparently is doing really well.

00:59:57.000 Kevin's an excellent actor, man.

00:59:59.000 He's really good at that.

00:59:59.000 He never misses, I feel like.

01:00:01.000 He's a really good, like, classic sitcom actor.

01:00:05.000 He knows how to do that.

01:00:06.000 In that form, he's a master.

01:00:08.000 I fucking loved him in, uh, what's the movie?

01:00:11.000 Will Smith.

01:00:12.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:00:14.000 Will Smith was like the dating advice guy.

01:00:15.000 What's that called?

01:00:16.000 Hutch.

01:00:17.000 Hutch.

01:00:17.000 Hitch.

01:00:18.000 Hitch.

01:00:19.000 Dude, one of my favorite movies.

01:00:20.000 I thought he was great in that.

01:00:21.000 How do you spell Leslie's last name?

01:00:23.000 B-I-B-B. B-I-B-B, right.

01:00:25.000 Ben Saunders, winner by decision.

01:00:27.000 We're wrong.

01:00:27.000 Wow.

01:00:28.000 Powerful Ben Saunders.

01:00:29.000 That was an earned win.

01:00:30.000 Good job, Ben.

01:00:31.000 Earned win.

01:00:32.000 I was off.

01:00:32.000 I apologize.

01:00:33.000 Yeah, I felt like he was winning the stand-ups, particularly in the first and second round.

01:00:37.000 He looked good on the outside.

01:00:39.000 Swollen him out the eyes there.

01:00:41.000 I heard Kevin James was a beast of a comic, too.

01:00:43.000 Oh, yeah.

01:00:44.000 Oh, he's hilarious.

01:00:44.000 Very good stand-up.

01:00:46.000 Does he still do it?

01:00:47.000 Sort of.

01:00:48.000 He takes a lot of time off, and then he'll go and do theaters, tours, and does theaters and shit.

01:00:54.000 Since he's a veteran, he doesn't have to do a lot of spots?

01:00:57.000 He can just go to those theaters?

01:00:58.000 He can always do those theaters if he wants to, but honestly, in order to really be on top of your game, you've got to do the clubs.

01:01:06.000 Night after night.

01:01:07.000 Yeah, it's like...

01:01:09.000 I mean, it's not that he's not going to be great, and he's going to rehearse, and he's going to go through all of his stuff, and if he does a few of those in a row, he'll get right back into shape again.

01:01:16.000 But the thing about stand-up is, in order to be like...

01:01:20.000 You go out of shape if you take a week off.

01:01:23.000 That's true.

01:01:23.000 A week.

01:01:24.000 Rhythm, timing, everything from it.

01:01:26.000 Dude, and sometimes for me, where I get scrambled is I'll do a UFC on the weekend and then I'll work on Sunday night or work the night after the UFC, whatever it is, and I'm scrambled because my brain is still in MMA mode.

01:01:38.000 It's like commentary mode.

01:01:40.000 To be in the groove, if you're doing a big show on Saturday night, ideally you want to work Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, maybe Friday too, and then gear up for Saturday.

01:01:52.000 It's like you've got to tune up.

01:01:54.000 You've got to keep sharp.

01:01:56.000 And when I do a lot of sets, like I'll do three sets on a Wednesday, three sets on a Thursday, I come into Friday, I'm just loose.

01:02:02.000 It's all in the groove, and you feel it.

01:02:05.000 You feel efficient.

01:02:08.000 It's kind of like on a Thursday, when you haven't done stand-up in a while, Thursday on the road, and by Saturday, you've done five shows, five hours of comedy.

01:02:16.000 That's why you told me to start doing some stamp, because...

01:02:20.000 We would do Live Find the Kid at theaters.

01:02:23.000 We'd start with 10 minutes of stand-up.

01:02:25.000 I'm like, dude, I can't go one month there, take three months off, and then go in front of this theater.

01:02:30.000 I gotta start doing some shit, man, in between.

01:02:32.000 Yeah.

01:02:33.000 There's no substitute for actually going on stage.

01:02:36.000 And for you, it would be fun anyway, man.

01:02:38.000 Just do open mic nights and all these bullshit spots.

01:02:41.000 It's good with Brendan, though, because what I'm encouraged with Brendan is that he just changes it every time.

01:02:46.000 He's always writing.

01:02:47.000 He's always...

01:02:48.000 He's always carving it, changing it, taking out words, adding things.

01:02:52.000 Look at that sexy bitch.

01:02:53.000 This fight right here, I was talking about me, by the way.

01:02:55.000 I find Holly not her.

01:02:57.000 That would be so rude.

01:02:59.000 I was talking about myself.

01:03:00.000 This is a weird fight, man.

01:03:02.000 Are they really trying to sell this right now?

01:03:03.000 Well, yeah.

01:03:03.000 I mean, it's one of those things where literally no one's talking about it.

01:03:07.000 I mean, this is maybe one of the least hyped up world championship fights in recent memory.

01:03:13.000 I feel like maybe Dana was on vacation and came back like, you booked what?

01:03:16.000 Well, I just don't know what else they can do.

01:03:19.000 I mean, you have this fight at 145, you're trying to book Cyborg, Cyborg keeps canceling, then they test her, she pisses hot, now you're fucked.

01:03:28.000 Because now she's out forever.

01:03:30.000 Then you stack the rest of the card and just toss these two on it.

01:03:33.000 Well, they didn't have the fights.

01:03:33.000 They literally didn't have the fights.

01:03:35.000 They didn't have the fighters available.

01:03:36.000 They didn't know what to do.

01:03:38.000 And this is a fucking...

01:03:40.000 If you want to make a star out of Holly Holm, wrong fight.

01:03:44.000 Correct.

01:03:44.000 Wrong fight.

01:03:45.000 Correct.

01:03:45.000 Because Jermaine Durandame is a fucking nasty kickboxer.

01:03:49.000 And a real, legit, multiple-time world Muay Thai champion.

01:03:53.000 And when she's presented with someone like Holm, Who is an excellent striker, you know, I think 18-time world boxing champion or something crazy like that.

01:04:03.000 You know that Holly Holm is going to be striking with her.

01:04:07.000 Well, that is where Jermaine Durandamy shines.

01:04:10.000 Her number one issue in MMA has just been girls holding on to her, taking her down, you know, using their grappling.

01:04:17.000 It's not Holly.

01:04:18.000 I mean, Holly can do that to girls, but that's also how she lost her title.

01:04:23.000 She got choked out.

01:04:24.000 It's not her thing either.

01:04:24.000 It's not her thing.

01:04:25.000 Yeah.

01:04:25.000 What you saw in the Valentina Shevchenko fight was when Holly fights...

01:04:30.000 Valentina is one of the best, super high-level, most technical strikers in women's MMA, and she kept using that check-right hook, and she was kicking her a lot, working the legs a lot, and she just beat her by a clear-cut, unanimous decision.

01:04:45.000 So I feel like this is a super dangerous fight for Holm.

01:04:49.000 She's lost two in a row for the first time in her career.

01:04:51.000 She gets choked out by Misha, and then she loses her next fight against Valentina Shevchenko.

01:04:58.000 So I feel like this is a real dangerous fight for her.

01:05:00.000 It's gonna be a tough sell if she loses this one.

01:05:02.000 Super tough sell.

01:05:03.000 And she's the girl who knocked out Ronda Rousey.

01:05:05.000 I mean, that's that's her main claim to fame is that highlight reel left high kick.

01:05:10.000 She's the first one to do it.

01:05:11.000 I mean, it's pretty...

01:05:12.000 Well, she was D1, right?

01:05:13.000 It's time in history.

01:05:14.000 Yeah, she outclassed her.

01:05:15.000 How crazy are these fights?

01:05:16.000 Look at me.

01:05:17.000 What do you have here?

01:05:17.000 You have Jacare...

01:05:19.000 Versus Tim Boach.

01:05:20.000 Like, what?

01:05:21.000 Who saw that coming?

01:05:22.000 How weird.

01:05:23.000 I mean, Tim Boach just knocks out, what's his face, Rafael Natal.

01:05:28.000 That's right.

01:05:29.000 Yeah, I mean, huge fight for him.

01:05:31.000 I mean, Rafael Natal, I think, was number six, and Boach knocked him out.

01:05:35.000 So, look, Boach jumps into the top ten with that.

01:05:37.000 Boach just will not go away.

01:05:39.000 But for Jacare, it's got to be pissing him off, because he's been knocking at the fucking door for a title forever.

01:05:44.000 That's crazy.

01:05:45.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:05:47.000 Joel Romero beats him by a small amount, but then pisses hot.

01:05:52.000 Remember?

01:05:53.000 So they suspend Yoel Romero.

01:05:55.000 Romero comes back, smashes Chris Weidman.

01:05:59.000 Smashes Chris Weidman.

01:06:00.000 So he gets the title shot.

01:06:01.000 Meanwhile, Jacare's got to be like, what in the fuck, man?

01:06:05.000 I'm sitting here while Bisping fights Henderson.

01:06:08.000 You know, I thought I was going to be next.

01:06:09.000 Bisping gets Henderson.

01:06:10.000 He beats Henderson.

01:06:11.000 Now Bisping's going to fight Yoel.

01:06:13.000 Yikes.

01:06:14.000 Jacare is one of the most dangerous, besides Yoel, he's the second most dangerous.

01:06:19.000 He's phenomenal.

01:06:21.000 I think he beats almost anybody.

01:06:23.000 Yeah, poor Jacare.

01:06:23.000 Well, he's really good, but you know what?

01:06:25.000 Yoel caught him with that wicked spinning backfist.

01:06:28.000 I want to see Sousa fight Luke Rockhold again.

01:06:33.000 I want to see what happens.

01:06:34.000 Well, they almost did, but Luke fucked his knee up.

01:06:36.000 Yeah, they're supposed to fight in Australia.

01:06:38.000 I think Luke had a...

01:06:39.000 Did he have surgery?

01:06:40.000 Did he just do like PRP injections or some shit?

01:06:42.000 I'm not sure.

01:06:43.000 He's training again, I think.

01:06:45.000 He's had a seriously fucked up knee for a while.

01:06:47.000 Even though he's training now, he's kicking with his right knee only, I think.

01:06:50.000 How old is Neil Siri there?

01:06:52.000 Is he about...

01:06:52.000 58?

01:06:53.000 Yeah, he's about 58. He's a weathered 58, too.

01:06:56.000 Well, listen, no one's had more fucking miles on their body than our boy Ian.

01:06:59.000 Ian McCall can't even make a fist.

01:07:02.000 It's tough to fight when you can't make a fist.

01:07:04.000 Dude, if you haven't seen him, Brian, he makes a fist.

01:07:06.000 His index finger on his right hand is like that.

01:07:09.000 And what I'm doing for people that are listening here is like if I was playing pool and I had a cue tucked under my finger.

01:07:16.000 Yeah, like I'm pulling a trigger.

01:07:18.000 He can't make a full fist.

01:07:20.000 His hand's been broken so many times.

01:07:22.000 He's such a little monster, too.

01:07:24.000 Travis Brown and Derek Lewis is on that card.

01:07:26.000 That's an interesting fight for Travis.

01:07:28.000 Ooh, Dustin Poirier and Jim Miller's on that card.

01:07:30.000 Ooh.

01:07:32.000 Is Travis...

01:07:33.000 Is Travis...

01:07:34.000 Eve is actually down there getting Dustin ready for that fight.

01:07:37.000 Is Travis Brown still in Edmonds camp?

01:07:40.000 I don't know.

01:07:41.000 I don't know.

01:07:42.000 I assume so.

01:07:43.000 Yeah, I assume so too.

01:07:43.000 Has anybody heard from Rhonda or has she still been radio silent?

01:07:47.000 She posted an inspirational quote on Instagram.

01:07:50.000 A Harry Potter quote, right?

01:07:51.000 Yeah.

01:07:51.000 Which is awesome.

01:07:53.000 Was it a Harry Potter quote?

01:07:54.000 J.K. Rawlings?

01:07:55.000 Is that what it was?

01:07:55.000 Yeah.

01:07:56.000 A J.K. Rawlings quote.

01:07:58.000 Which is...

01:07:59.000 Even Rock Bottom has a wiggle room.

01:08:03.000 That's a quote from, what's his name?

01:08:05.000 What's our boy?

01:08:06.000 That's a great quote.

01:08:07.000 Even Rock Bottom has wiggle room.

01:08:09.000 That's hilarious.

01:08:09.000 What's our boy?

01:08:11.000 Don.

01:08:12.000 Don Herrera.

01:08:13.000 Yes.

01:08:13.000 We had dinner that night.

01:08:15.000 He said, even Rock Bottom has wiggle room, son.

01:08:19.000 I went, that's fucking hilarious.

01:08:21.000 Hey, you gotta start coming out to dinner.

01:08:22.000 We were at Bianconi, the best restaurant on the planet.

01:08:24.000 Stop with all this.

01:08:25.000 Brian goes there every night.

01:08:26.000 You need to come.

01:08:27.000 It's the best restaurant.

01:08:28.000 Listen, I go home, I get some sleep, and I go work out in the morning.

01:08:31.000 Look at me.

01:08:31.000 You can come hang and have an amazing meal for an hour with us.

01:08:33.000 Or I can go home.

01:08:34.000 Or I can go home and go to sleep.

01:08:36.000 It's unbelievable.

01:08:36.000 You're going out on a Thursday night at midnight.

01:08:38.000 So what?

01:08:39.000 I was not.

01:08:40.000 I was out at 11. You could have come out.

01:08:41.000 Every night.

01:08:42.000 Well, I was doing sets every night.

01:08:43.000 I get up in the morning, buddy.

01:08:45.000 Yeah, I don't like my mornings to be fucked, man.

01:08:47.000 Gotta go to yoga.

01:08:48.000 Whatever.

01:08:49.000 Just come out to dinner once in a while.

01:08:50.000 I actually do go to yoga.

01:08:51.000 I know you say you do, but I really do.

01:08:53.000 You do, huh?

01:08:54.000 I really do.

01:08:55.000 I see your girl posts on your yoga teacher you guys take pictures and shit with her shirt off, right?

01:08:59.000 She's on the popular page usually.

01:09:01.000 She looks like a...

01:09:02.000 Joe's super flexible, so...

01:09:04.000 I think that yoga is one of the most important things I've done over the past few years.

01:09:08.000 I really do.

01:09:09.000 It's making a giant difference.

01:09:10.000 I try to do it three times a week now.

01:09:12.000 Giant difference in regards to what?

01:09:14.000 The way I feel.

01:09:16.000 Relaxation, flexibility.

01:09:18.000 I'm back to a full split with no strain at all.

01:09:24.000 I can just drop right now.

01:09:24.000 You're doing hot yoga?

01:09:25.000 Yes.

01:09:26.000 That shit stresses me out, man.

01:09:27.000 It's not very relaxing.

01:09:28.000 It's not relaxing.

01:09:30.000 It's brutal.

01:09:30.000 Yeah, it's brutal.

01:09:31.000 When you're done though, you feel great.

01:09:32.000 I can't stop sweating.

01:09:33.000 My favorite thing right now is to fucking torture myself for 90 minutes, hot yoga, and then go right into a cold shower.

01:09:38.000 Because right now, it's January, so the water's really fucking cold.

01:09:42.000 So you're going there, you're hurting, like barely getting through.

01:09:45.000 Like the last 10 minutes of a hot yoga class.

01:09:47.000 You're doing Bikram?

01:09:48.000 Yeah, like you barely can make it through.

01:09:50.000 It's so intense.

01:09:51.000 You ever fucked up and thought it was 60 but it was 90?

01:09:54.000 It'll ruin your fucking week.

01:09:56.000 Yeah, I haven't, but I know what you mean.

01:09:57.000 Where you're like, dear God, 45 minutes, let's go, 15. Meanwhile, it's another half an hour.

01:10:03.000 Dude.

01:10:03.000 Yeah, I love it.

01:10:05.000 What is this Cody Garbrandt?

01:10:06.000 Is it the snakes?

01:10:08.000 Oh, wow.

01:10:09.000 Who made that?

01:10:11.000 God, dawg, that is sick.

01:10:13.000 He should sell those for shirts.

01:10:15.000 Fuck your Reebok money.

01:10:17.000 I should sell posters.

01:10:18.000 Shirts all day.

01:10:19.000 Do you know who that's signifying?

01:10:20.000 You know what?

01:10:21.000 God, everybody?

01:10:21.000 Come on, guys.

01:10:22.000 Medusa.

01:10:23.000 I'm right, Medusa.

01:10:24.000 What happens when you stare at Medusa?

01:10:25.000 She turns you to stone.

01:10:26.000 What's fucked up, man, is that Conor McGregor is the one.

01:10:30.000 Conor McGregor called him a snake, and it's never let off.

01:10:33.000 Never.

01:10:34.000 Ever.

01:10:34.000 Conor says, he's a fucking snake, and everybody was like, what?

01:10:38.000 What?

01:10:39.000 Stamp!

01:10:39.000 Snakey!

01:10:40.000 They just stamped his forehead with that stamp!

01:10:41.000 But there's nothing about TJ that made no sense when I heard him say that.

01:10:45.000 Well, because he left the camp.

01:10:46.000 Team Alpha Male was his brothers, and he left that camp, and he went with Dwayne Ludwig, and he went to Muscle Farm, and they were like, fuck you.

01:10:53.000 You know, look, they needed, look, and they knew at that point, Well, it's not.

01:10:58.000 Listen, his loyalty was to his own future, and he felt like his best chance to get better was not with Team Alpha.

01:11:06.000 Clearly the right choice for a champion when he leaves.

01:11:10.000 Yeah, and he felt like his choice was to go with Dwayne Ludwig because he felt like Dwayne Ludwig had a bond with him and a deep, deep, deep pool of knowledge, and together they gelled well.

01:11:22.000 And it was the right move.

01:11:23.000 It was the right move for him, maybe.

01:11:25.000 What do you mean, baby?

01:11:26.000 He became world champ.

01:11:27.000 Yeah, but how close was he really to those guys?

01:11:31.000 See, here's the thing, man.

01:11:32.000 It's like, you can't work this out.

01:11:33.000 There's not a way to work it out where you're still with Team Alpha Male.

01:11:36.000 I don't know.

01:11:37.000 Listen, I'm just playing devil's advocate.

01:11:39.000 I'm a huge Dwayne fan.

01:11:40.000 No, because for a while, he would go back to Alpha Male and go to Dwayne.

01:11:43.000 I'm a huge Dwayne fan, and I'm a huge TJ fan, but I'm also a huge Alpha Male fan, you know, and I'm also a huge fan of loyalty.

01:11:50.000 It's also not a team sport, though.

01:11:51.000 It's not a team sport, and that's where it gets weird.

01:11:53.000 Super weird.

01:11:54.000 Super weird.

01:11:55.000 You know, I mean, if there's another guy that's in 135, like Cody, who's coming up, coming up hot.

01:12:00.000 And clearly coming up.

01:12:01.000 Coming up hot, knocking everybody dead, you know, smashing Thomas Almeida, you know, knocking on the door, and then winds up winning the title in his first attempt, the first guy to fucking beat the shit out of Dominick Cruz like that.

01:12:12.000 I mean, the only guy that beat Dominick Cruz before was Uriah, and Uriah caught him in a guillotine.

01:12:19.000 I would say at that weight class, with MMA being, you know, with the margin for error, if your priority is loyalty, which I'm a huge fan of loyalty, over...

01:12:28.000 A guru that could improve and change your style, then you're gonna get left behind.

01:12:33.000 There's no mercy in this sport.

01:12:36.000 You're right.

01:12:36.000 No, you're right.

01:12:37.000 There's no mercy.

01:12:38.000 You're right.

01:12:39.000 I'm not arguing with you.

01:12:39.000 Don't say no mercy again, though.

01:12:41.000 Did you say no mercy?

01:12:43.000 Is that a movie?

01:12:43.000 So dramatic.

01:12:44.000 There is no mercy.

01:12:46.000 You said it twice, though.

01:12:46.000 You're 100% right.

01:12:47.000 But there's no mercy.

01:12:48.000 But there's also, like...

01:12:50.000 Brotherhood and friendship and I feel like there's almost there's almost always a way to do things different And I don't know I don't know if they did the right thing.

01:12:59.000 I don't know what happened I don't I wasn't there right and but it's what here's my point results of the Fascinating in terms of the matchup now and now that they're gonna I think it's a giant move to do that on The Ultimate Fighter It's fucking huge because it might be the one thing that gets a lot of fans even though they're cutting the budget Are they cutting the budget?

01:13:20.000 How do you know this?

01:13:21.000 Are you deep inside?

01:13:21.000 I just know.

01:13:22.000 On Ultimate Fighter they are?

01:13:24.000 Yes.

01:13:24.000 They're cutting the budget, how so?

01:13:26.000 Correct.

01:13:26.000 Who are they not paying as much?

01:13:28.000 Just the whole production thing, because the UFC used to do it, now they're going to outsource.

01:13:32.000 Well, it might be better.

01:13:34.000 It could be better.

01:13:35.000 Get people who are trying to make a name for themselves.

01:13:37.000 You fucking never know, man.

01:13:38.000 All I know is lately, when they do the matchups from Ultimate Fighter, it doesn't build it for me as much.

01:13:47.000 Tell you what, man, not a whole lot of shit makes me feel bad.

01:13:50.000 These goddamn poverty commercials, they make me feel worse than anything.

01:13:53.000 Me too.

01:13:53.000 In the world.

01:13:54.000 You know what?

01:13:54.000 I see people, like little kids, cooking food.

01:13:56.000 I agree.

01:13:56.000 If they show kids, or you know what fucks me up even more?

01:13:59.000 When they show the animals, for whatever reason.

01:14:01.000 Tugs at my heart more than humans.

01:14:03.000 Well, you got a problem.

01:14:04.000 You should go to a doctor.

01:14:05.000 I love animals.

01:14:10.000 I hate to see that.

01:14:12.000 I hate to see that, but I hate more to see little kids that don't have any fun.

01:14:14.000 Oh, and then you got Alanis Morissette singing behind it?

01:14:17.000 Yeah.

01:14:17.000 I know that's it.

01:14:18.000 In the arms of an angel.

01:14:21.000 Yeah, and I just start dishing money.

01:14:22.000 That's Sarah McLaughlin.

01:14:23.000 Same shit.

01:14:23.000 Guys, guys.

01:14:24.000 Ten for you.

01:14:25.000 What did you say?

01:14:26.000 Alanis Morissette.

01:14:27.000 Alanis Morissette.

01:14:28.000 All right.

01:14:29.000 What does she sing?

01:14:31.000 Well, it's girls with great voices that Brian Callen would fuck.

01:14:34.000 Don't you think?

01:14:35.000 I put them in that category.

01:14:37.000 Girls who are just really kind of rooted.

01:14:39.000 Girls who Brian Callen would have like a six-month intense relationship with before she fucking changed her number and kicked it out.

01:14:45.000 Earth mothers who are really grounded.

01:14:47.000 Earth mothers.

01:14:49.000 Earth mothers women.

01:14:50.000 You're saying Sarah McLachlan sings that, right?

01:14:52.000 Yeah.

01:14:52.000 Did she say that already?

01:14:54.000 Got to get my fucking money.

01:14:56.000 She'd have like little beads around her ankle with like some string, some twine, some hemp twine.

01:15:01.000 I was driving down beads.

01:15:02.000 Give me some good red flags.

01:15:03.000 Good red flags for sure.

01:15:05.000 Marcin Hell, Joe Lozon.

01:15:06.000 Damn, he's young.

01:15:07.000 With a shitload of fights.

01:15:08.000 Yeah, man.

01:15:09.000 Now, he came from Bellator, correct?

01:15:11.000 Correct.

01:15:12.000 Had a lot of fights in Bellator.

01:15:13.000 Did he win the title in Bellator?

01:15:14.000 I don't think so.

01:15:14.000 I don't think he was the champ at Bellator.

01:15:16.000 Is that right, Jamie?

01:15:18.000 Only 24, huh?

01:15:19.000 Joe Lozon has had some motherfucking battles.

01:15:22.000 I almost said he's got a nice body out loud.

01:15:24.000 So he lost to Diego in his last fight.

01:15:26.000 Before that, he beat Dave Jensen and Bellator.

01:15:29.000 But he lost to Will Brooks.

01:15:31.000 Okay, so he lost his title to Will Brooks.

01:15:33.000 Lost a title fight, rather, to Will Brooks.

01:15:36.000 Five-round fight.

01:15:37.000 Does Bellator have any other five-round fights other than title fights?

01:15:40.000 No.

01:15:40.000 They don't, right?

01:15:41.000 Never.

01:15:41.000 So that was his first loss since way back in 2013 when he fought Dave Jensen.

01:15:46.000 So he beat Dave Jensen in his last Bellator fight.

01:15:50.000 So he lost to him.

01:15:51.000 And then he beat him in his last fight.

01:15:52.000 But no title fights, right?

01:15:53.000 One fight against Will Brooks, but Will Brooks beat him.

01:15:56.000 Will Brooks is a little horse.

01:15:58.000 He's a tough guy.

01:15:59.000 Who stopped Will Brooks?

01:16:00.000 Somebody stopped Will Brooks in the UFC. Why are you laughing?

01:16:03.000 He hurt his rib.

01:16:06.000 But he was looking good.

01:16:08.000 Who beat him?

01:16:09.000 Someone big.

01:16:10.000 Cowboy Oliveira.

01:16:11.000 Yes.

01:16:11.000 He missed weight.

01:16:13.000 Cowboy Oliveira beat him, but he missed weight.

01:16:15.000 By like 80 pounds.

01:16:15.000 Yeah.

01:16:15.000 It was like, fuck it!

01:16:17.000 Remember to get all mad?

01:16:18.000 He grabbed the mic and got mad?

01:16:20.000 Yeah.

01:16:20.000 He was talking shit at Wayne.

01:16:21.000 He's like, bro, you missed it by 40 pounds.

01:16:23.000 You shouldn't even be allowed to fight.

01:16:25.000 What the fuck are you talking about?

01:16:26.000 Yeah, he missed weight by...

01:16:27.000 It might have been like 8 pounds.

01:16:29.000 It was a good amount, and he just said, fuck it.

01:16:31.000 I won't say it was like 12. Okay, here's Joe Lozon.

01:16:34.000 Powerful Boston.

01:16:36.000 He's got a lot of savage in him.

01:16:38.000 And Marcin Held.

01:16:40.000 Real interesting fight.

01:16:41.000 Let's see how this goes.

01:16:42.000 Please just jump to guard, both of you.

01:16:44.000 Well, here's the thing about Held.

01:16:45.000 I don't think Held has the same kind of boxing that Lozon has.

01:16:48.000 Lozon's very sharp with his stand-up.

01:16:51.000 I wouldn't call it sharp because he does that shell up, and I feel like especially elite strikers are starting to figure it out.

01:16:56.000 Knocked out Diego Sanchez in his last fight.

01:16:58.000 And then before that, remember that Melvin-Gallard fight?

01:17:00.000 Cracked Melvin with a jab and then choked him the fuck out.

01:17:03.000 Because Melvin got a little...

01:17:04.000 Well, Melvin was fucking people up back then.

01:17:07.000 And Melvin's lightning fast.

01:17:08.000 He's a wildcat.

01:17:09.000 Wildcard.

01:17:10.000 Wildcat.

01:17:10.000 Yeah, who knows with Melvin.

01:17:12.000 He was one of the first guys to test positive for cocaine.

01:17:15.000 I was like, holla!

01:17:16.000 My man!

01:17:17.000 My man!

01:17:18.000 Here's the thing about cocaine.

01:17:19.000 That shit always stays in your system for like two days.

01:17:22.000 There's also like no shit.

01:17:23.000 And it was a post-UFC fight.

01:17:25.000 5.5s over.

01:17:27.000 That's what Oliveira was.

01:17:28.000 5.5 pounds over when he fought Will Brooks.

01:17:30.000 Then he came in.

01:17:31.000 Ooh.

01:17:31.000 Yeah, that should be illegal.

01:17:32.000 Hell getting tore up.

01:17:33.000 In some states, they wouldn't allow that.

01:17:35.000 Like, I don't think New York would have allowed that.

01:17:37.000 New York straight.

01:17:38.000 Oh, hard elbows by Lozon.

01:17:39.000 These are fucking nasty elbows by Lozon.

01:17:41.000 Marcin Hell's in big trouble here.

01:17:43.000 Ooh, mount, son!

01:17:44.000 Big elbow.

01:17:44.000 Oh, he's hit the arm!

01:17:45.000 Oh!

01:17:45.000 Oh, and he went for it.

01:17:46.000 He went for it.

01:17:47.000 Aggressive.

01:17:48.000 He still got it.

01:17:48.000 He still got the arm.

01:17:49.000 He still got the arm.

01:17:49.000 Oh, wow.

01:17:50.000 Now Held's got the leg.

01:17:51.000 Oh, damn.

01:17:52.000 Lozon with a fucking vicious elbow.

01:17:53.000 He's trying to get that performance of the night bones and be the all-time leader.

01:17:56.000 Those are the Travis Brown elbows, man.

01:17:58.000 Those elbows from that single.

01:17:59.000 You're talking about that old Travis.

01:18:00.000 Yeah, those were nasty.

01:18:02.000 Not the single, rather, but the wide stance, the takedown defense.

01:18:05.000 Josh Barnett, Gonzaga.

01:18:07.000 Yes, Gonzaga, man.

01:18:08.000 So nasty.

01:18:09.000 Horrible.

01:18:09.000 Travis Brown, man, used to fuck people up with those elbows.

01:18:12.000 Sure did.

01:18:12.000 He changed that position for a lot of people.

01:18:14.000 Yep.

01:18:15.000 And Joe Lozon just took a page out of his book.

01:18:18.000 It's still illegal to go from 12 to 6, right?

01:18:21.000 Yeah, I don't understand how that didn't get changed.

01:18:23.000 I really don't understand it.

01:18:25.000 I understand that they wanted to change a bunch of shit, and I think they did a good job with most of it.

01:18:30.000 Someone made a real good point, though, about the new rules about how many points of contact you have on the ground.

01:18:40.000 Three now, yeah.

01:18:40.000 Yeah.

01:18:41.000 So if you have three, it's legal.

01:18:44.000 So if you have two feet on the ground and a hand on the ground, it's legal.

01:18:48.000 But here's the thing, man.

01:18:50.000 Did you see that?

01:18:51.000 You saw the Tim Means fight with Oliveira, same guy, Oliveira, who came in overweight.

01:18:56.000 That's his karma.

01:18:57.000 Goddammit, that's what you get, son.

01:18:59.000 He got fucked up by Tim Means.

01:18:59.000 Enjoy that.

01:19:00.000 He had one knee down.

01:19:02.000 One knee down.

01:19:03.000 Look at this.

01:19:03.000 And only one knee down.

01:19:05.000 Beautiful takedown by Marcin.

01:19:06.000 Strong grappling by Marcin.

01:19:08.000 Nice, Marcin.

01:19:09.000 But Joe Lozon, very good at getting back up, too, man.

01:19:11.000 This could be interesting.

01:19:12.000 Marcin's definitely more decorated when it comes to jiu-jitsu.

01:19:16.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.

01:19:18.000 But again, MMA jiu-jitsu's a little different.

01:19:20.000 Lozon's a monster.

01:19:21.000 Right, and Lozon has already cracked him with a few elbows, so we'll see where Marcin's head's at now.

01:19:27.000 I mean, who knows where he's at right now?

01:19:29.000 He might be on...

01:19:30.000 They've also given him 18%.

01:19:32.000 No gimmies.

01:19:33.000 They said, oh, you're from Bellator?

01:19:34.000 That's cool.

01:19:35.000 You're going to get...

01:19:36.000 Who did they give him last time?

01:19:37.000 Diego Sanchez.

01:19:37.000 He lost to Diego.

01:19:39.000 And then in Lozon's last fight, he stopped Diego.

01:19:42.000 Mm-hmm.

01:19:44.000 What were we just talking about?

01:19:46.000 We were just talking about...

01:19:47.000 Oh, we were talking about Tim Means and Cowboy.

01:19:49.000 The Brazilian Cowboy.

01:19:51.000 So the knee on the ground, it was only the knee.

01:19:54.000 Even his foot was off the ground.

01:19:55.000 And the knee was still illegal.

01:19:57.000 So you can't have...

01:19:58.000 It's not points of contact, even though we always refer to it as points of contact.

01:20:02.000 John McCarthy told me that's a bad terminology.

01:20:04.000 He said you should really think of it as anything other than the bottom of the foot is illegal.

01:20:12.000 I don't know about that, though.

01:20:13.000 What about the top of the foot?

01:20:15.000 What if you only have the top of the foot down?

01:20:18.000 I think they're saying, though, that anything other than the bottom of the foot.

01:20:24.000 So the thing is, what if a guy is shooting in on a takedown, like Cyborg versus Michael Page, and someone catches you with a knee coming in while you have one knee down?

01:20:35.000 You're sliding in, and you get thumped in the face and knocked unconscious.

01:20:40.000 Well, that's the same as if you get wheel kicked behind the air, right?

01:20:44.000 You're moving into it, which just shit happens.

01:20:46.000 Maybe it's a shit happens rule.

01:20:47.000 Well, transition rule.

01:20:48.000 Right, right, right.

01:20:49.000 Like, don't be an idiot and cut with a flying knee.

01:20:51.000 Good defense right there by Loza on the break.

01:20:53.000 Knew that hook was coming, that right hand was coming, rather, and got that left hand up.

01:20:57.000 I loved when they were grappling.

01:20:58.000 Yeah.

01:20:59.000 High-level shit.

01:21:00.000 Really interesting.

01:21:01.000 I don't want to see hell throw jabs.

01:21:05.000 It's called a fake with the left guys and then he came in with a right.

01:21:08.000 It's one of my favorite things.

01:21:09.000 What are you talking about?

01:21:10.000 Something I do in street fighting.

01:21:13.000 I go 12 to 6 in street fighting, just so you guys know.

01:21:16.000 What do you think?

01:21:17.000 How much different would MMA be if they had three minute rounds?

01:21:23.000 I think you get a watered-down product.

01:21:26.000 Do you get a watered-down product, or do you get more explosive and faster-paced?

01:21:32.000 Faster-paced, worse technique.

01:21:34.000 Is that true?

01:21:35.000 What about five three-minute rounds?

01:21:36.000 Oh, he fell down.

01:21:38.000 Oh, shit.

01:21:38.000 What happened there?

01:21:39.000 That's weird.

01:21:40.000 Look at that.

01:21:40.000 Oh, on the break.

01:21:42.000 That was weird.

01:21:43.000 What happened there?

01:21:44.000 Five three is you're thinking?

01:21:45.000 Yeah, five three-minute rounds instead of three five-minute rounds.

01:21:47.000 Do you think that that would be better for like...

01:21:51.000 Chael Sonnen said it best.

01:21:52.000 He said, it's just too much time for people to fight.

01:21:55.000 It's like five five-minute rounds.

01:21:57.000 He goes, no one can fight.

01:21:58.000 25 minutes?

01:21:58.000 Yeah, he goes, no one can really fight five five-minute rounds.

01:22:01.000 Let's come from a guy who lost to Anstron Silva with two minutes left and 23 minutes left.

01:22:05.000 It's also coming from a guy who fought a bunch of five-round fights.

01:22:08.000 You know, he fought against Paulo Filho, right?

01:22:10.000 Didn't he fight twice?

01:22:11.000 Those weren't five minutes, were they?

01:22:12.000 Although, listen to the belt, WC. That's right.

01:22:14.000 At least the second one.

01:22:16.000 And he got armbarred.

01:22:16.000 The first one, he got armbarred.

01:22:17.000 The second one, he won a decision, but Filho didn't make weight, so he never got the belt.

01:22:22.000 Yeah, that's right, because the belt wasn't on the line.

01:22:23.000 Yeah, so he was like the uncrowned champ at 185 in the WAC. Really, he got fucked.

01:22:29.000 Because he won that fight pretty clear.

01:22:31.000 That was also when Paulo Filho was kind of...

01:22:34.000 Going a little cuckoo.

01:22:34.000 He's going cray-cray.

01:22:35.000 He's going cray-cray.

01:22:36.000 Full cray-cray.

01:22:36.000 Went missing Brazil some shit.

01:22:38.000 Got that Tyson tattoo on his face.

01:22:39.000 Yeah, I know that.

01:22:40.000 And they found him amongst the sheep or some shit in Brazil.

01:22:42.000 Like choking sheep out.

01:22:44.000 I'm sorry, I just had this...

01:22:45.000 It's weird.

01:22:45.000 He went full AWOL. I just had this thought, and maybe your brother didn't know me.

01:22:50.000 I was thinking about what Floyd did to Canelo Alvarez.

01:22:53.000 Yeah.

01:22:53.000 Brilliant.

01:22:55.000 Oh, you're going back to this?

01:22:56.000 Yeah.

01:22:56.000 Did my brother text you this?

01:22:57.000 Yeah.

01:22:58.000 That's what I just said.

01:23:00.000 Might be your brother.

01:23:01.000 Hey, what do you think of the fight that just got announced?

01:23:04.000 I just remembered that.

01:23:04.000 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and Canelo.

01:23:06.000 Yes.

01:23:06.000 Mexican on Mexican crime.

01:23:08.000 May 6th.

01:23:09.000 Cinco de Mayo weekend, baby.

01:23:11.000 Chavez Jr. is way tougher than he should be.

01:23:13.000 He's a tough dude, man.

01:23:14.000 Tougher than he should be.

01:23:15.000 In other words, he grew up wealthy.

01:23:16.000 His dad's fucking...

01:23:17.000 But he grew up wealthy.

01:23:18.000 I mean, kids like that.

01:23:20.000 But his dad is Julio Cesar Chavez.

01:23:21.000 Joe Lozon going for the guillotine, getting crafty.

01:23:23.000 I see what you're saying, though, B. But didn't work out.

01:23:25.000 He slept and sat in sheets.

01:23:27.000 Yeah.

01:23:28.000 It's rare.

01:23:29.000 But you see his father at his fights?

01:23:30.000 His father's like...

01:23:31.000 B.J. Penn's family's rich as fuck.

01:23:33.000 Yeah, B.J. Penn's family's wealthy too.

01:23:35.000 B.J. just loves fight.

01:23:36.000 Look at this.

01:23:36.000 Joe Lozon is going for the fucking leg lock.

01:23:38.000 Look at this.

01:23:39.000 Oh my god, he gave up the back.

01:23:41.000 Ooh, Held is so high level.

01:23:42.000 Can't give your back up.

01:23:43.000 What is Held's jiu-jitsu credentials?

01:23:46.000 Didn't he win an Ogi...

01:23:48.000 World title.

01:23:49.000 He won gold in super high level.

01:23:52.000 Oh, look at this, man.

01:23:53.000 He's wrapping up.

01:23:54.000 Joe Lozon managed to keep that left arm on the outside, though.

01:23:56.000 That's critical for defense.

01:23:57.000 I think he's been doing jiu-jitsu since he was 12, too.

01:23:59.000 Good move in here by Joe Lozon.

01:24:01.000 I like it.

01:24:02.000 He's posturing up.

01:24:03.000 He's...

01:24:04.000 If Marcin can get away from that left hand, he's essentially free.

01:24:07.000 He's essentially free here if he just keeps going.

01:24:09.000 Yep.

01:24:09.000 Oh, no!

01:24:10.000 Marcin pulls him down!

01:24:11.000 Oh, such a strong move pulling him down there.

01:24:14.000 Joe was almost out.

01:24:15.000 A lot of people, like Joe Lozon, would have been out the door right there.

01:24:19.000 He's almost choked here.

01:24:20.000 He's in a real bad spot here.

01:24:22.000 Because in order to advance in this position, he's got to move.

01:24:25.000 And if he's got to move, he's got to make sure he moves with his chin tightly pressed to his neck here.

01:24:29.000 Damn!

01:24:30.000 Fucking...

01:24:31.000 Is that Mike Goldberg in the crowd?

01:24:33.000 Wow.

01:24:33.000 Yeah!

01:24:35.000 That's kind of weird.

01:24:36.000 Going nuts!

01:24:37.000 Who's his replacement again?

01:24:39.000 Um, I don't know, man.

01:24:41.000 I don't know because I thought someone...

01:24:43.000 Oh!

01:24:44.000 Nicely done!

01:24:45.000 Yeah, I thought they used that Grissom?

01:24:47.000 Yeah, is that true though?

01:24:49.000 No, but he was doing the pre-show in the UFC Tonight studio.

01:24:54.000 Yeah, I heard he was going to do this, but Anik is on this, so maybe he's not doing that.

01:24:59.000 Maybe they're wrong.

01:25:00.000 Maybe they just hired him for more of that pre-show stuff.

01:25:02.000 Like more analyst work instead of play-by-play and color.

01:25:06.000 Oh, look at this!

01:25:07.000 Lozon with the fucking arm triangle!

01:25:08.000 Oh my god, Lozon.

01:25:10.000 Lozon attacking, man.

01:25:11.000 I love that about him.

01:25:12.000 Even though he's fighting a real elite grappler, he's not afraid to dive on shit.

01:25:16.000 He's one of my faves to watch, man.

01:25:17.000 He's just getting cut off at the checkmate door.

01:25:20.000 You know, he gets to the door and checkmate's getting cut off.

01:25:22.000 He's had a long career and some wars.

01:25:25.000 He has, but I mean, also the difference is Marcin Held is a really, really high-level grappler.

01:25:30.000 And although Lozon has taken some chances, like, when he's going for that armbar, he gets blocked on the way up and at it.

01:25:35.000 Yeah.

01:25:37.000 Bang!

01:25:39.000 So they're keeping that Skip guy on the air even after he got caught tweeting to himself, huh?

01:25:43.000 Yeah.

01:25:44.000 How embarrassing is that?

01:25:45.000 Didn't he say it was one of his assistants?

01:25:47.000 He's like, you're the man, Skip.

01:25:49.000 Skip, you're a fucking genius.

01:25:51.000 Love the show on FS1. I heard you have a big dick, too.

01:25:52.000 I heard your hog taste like a candy cane.

01:25:56.000 I heard you're rich as fuck, man.

01:25:57.000 That's awesome.

01:25:58.000 Did he say somebody else was doing it for him?

01:25:59.000 Like he has somebody hired or something?

01:26:01.000 I don't give a fuck what he said.

01:26:01.000 No, he said nothing.

01:26:02.000 He was just like...

01:26:03.000 I don't know what he said, and I don't give a fuck what he said.

01:26:07.000 The fact that it can ever happen.

01:26:10.000 It can ever happen.

01:26:11.000 That guy gets fucking brutalized online.

01:26:15.000 Does he?

01:26:15.000 All the time.

01:26:16.000 Does he?

01:26:16.000 Oh, okay.

01:26:17.000 Some things can't ever happen.

01:26:18.000 That's why he was like, we need some positive here.

01:26:20.000 Let's create some catfish accounts.

01:26:22.000 We need some super positive energy on our side.

01:26:24.000 Just from me.

01:26:26.000 Those old dudes, man, that just talk sports.

01:26:28.000 Fuck, man, that gig is hard to come by.

01:26:31.000 Well, he was a writer.

01:26:31.000 Sports writer.

01:26:32.000 Yeah, but it's just talking sports, whether he's writing about it or not.

01:26:35.000 It's just talking sports.

01:26:36.000 Football's his thing, Dallas Cowboys.

01:26:37.000 You know, there's a big difference between a guy like, you know, a fucking Michael Irvin, who is a world-class player, who wants to talk about...

01:26:45.000 Oh, look at this!

01:26:46.000 Look at this!

01:26:47.000 Joe Lozon trying to snatch up an armbar from the fucking guard!

01:26:51.000 And he's controlling the leg so he can't step out.

01:26:54.000 Dude, this is fucking dangerous for Marcy.

01:26:57.000 Oh, he's lost it now.

01:26:58.000 He's lost it.

01:26:59.000 He's lost it.

01:27:01.000 He's not nearly as close as he was just a few minutes ago.

01:27:04.000 Oh my god.

01:27:05.000 No, no, no.

01:27:05.000 He's out.

01:27:06.000 He's out, dude.

01:27:06.000 He's out.

01:27:07.000 Now he's at omoplata.

01:27:08.000 No, no, no.

01:27:09.000 He's nowhere near an omoplata.

01:27:10.000 You know what I mean.

01:27:11.000 Oh, how dare you.

01:27:13.000 It's like a blue belt attempt.

01:27:14.000 Well, he got real close in the beginning, but then you see the shift from the guard.

01:27:18.000 That's when you know he can relax.

01:27:19.000 They're both outstanding grapplers.

01:27:21.000 My god.

01:27:22.000 He was at 9. He was at like 9 out of 10, and then he went back to 8. And when you go from 9 to 8, usually the other guy...

01:27:28.000 At this level?

01:27:28.000 Yeah, usually the other guy gets out of it.

01:27:30.000 I'm so envious that you guys have such a knowledge of...

01:27:34.000 Jiu-Jitsu's so beautiful.

01:27:35.000 Well, listen, man.

01:27:36.000 Anthony Bourdain didn't start training until he was 58. That could be you, Brian.

01:27:39.000 You know what, dude?

01:27:40.000 Fuck this spin-off.

01:27:40.000 Right now, I think I'd put my money on him.

01:27:43.000 Do you think he would tap you?

01:27:44.000 Do you think Anthony Bourdain could tap you?

01:27:45.000 He's a purple belt, yeah?

01:27:46.000 He got a purple belt?

01:27:47.000 I thought he was a purple belt.

01:27:48.000 I know he's a blue belt.

01:27:48.000 He would roll Callan up like fucking Kobayashi.

01:27:51.000 He's very big, and I never do jiu-jitsu.

01:27:52.000 I don't think he's a purple belt.

01:27:53.000 I think he's still a blue belt, but he trains regularly.

01:27:55.000 Like, I mean, almost every day.

01:27:56.000 And he's got tricks.

01:27:57.000 You know what, though?

01:27:58.000 Blue belt, blue belt, and he's always traveling, and he looks a little weathered.

01:28:01.000 I'll take my boy Callan here.

01:28:02.000 Scrappy.

01:28:02.000 And maybe hungover.

01:28:03.000 Callan's scrappy though.

01:28:04.000 Scrappy and in shape.

01:28:05.000 I don't know.

01:28:06.000 You are in shape.

01:28:06.000 I mean, essentially, how much sand does this motherfucker have left in his hourglass?

01:28:10.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:28:10.000 He's 60 years old.

01:28:11.000 He hits the booze hard.

01:28:12.000 Callan, let's set this shit up.

01:28:13.000 We'll put you on the undercard of Soldier Boy Chris Brown.

01:28:16.000 Okay, I'm ready.

01:28:16.000 You know what's interesting about Bourdain is essentially like...

01:28:21.000 He's a guy who has had numerous substance problems in the past.

01:28:26.000 Yes, heroin included.

01:28:26.000 Exactly.

01:28:27.000 Alcohol, too, yeah.

01:28:28.000 But alcohol, you know, he doesn't drink when he's at home.

01:28:31.000 I mean, he's not an alcoholic.

01:28:32.000 And he's aware.

01:28:33.000 Look at that.

01:28:33.000 He won a fucking IBJJF New York Open.

01:28:37.000 He's every bit of 6'4".

01:28:38.000 Everyone in that photo is 107. Yeah, that's a big guy.

01:28:40.000 Yeah, they're 89-year-old people.

01:28:41.000 He's choking out.

01:28:42.000 It's awesome.

01:28:43.000 He just lay on top.

01:28:45.000 Ah, fuck it.

01:28:45.000 That one guy's got an interesting haircut at that age.

01:28:47.000 He's awesome.

01:28:48.000 Just being...

01:28:48.000 Just past their broken hip.

01:28:51.000 But the point is...

01:28:53.000 So fucked up, went bad on him.

01:28:54.000 I love him.

01:28:55.000 I love him too.

01:28:57.000 But the thing is, he has taken all those problems that he had, like his addictive tendencies, and now he's using him for jiu-jitsu.

01:29:04.000 He's addicted to jiu-jitsu.

01:29:05.000 A lot of those addicts go to triathlons and shit, right?

01:29:09.000 Because it releases the same endorphins?

01:29:11.000 Yeah, that guy from the Cro-Mags.

01:29:12.000 What's his name?

01:29:13.000 John Joseph, is that his name?

01:29:14.000 He's a good friend of the Cro-Mags.

01:29:15.000 One of my best friends.

01:29:15.000 Is that his name?

01:29:16.000 I've known John since literally I was 23 years old.

01:29:18.000 One of your best friends?

01:29:19.000 Yeah, I don't think he's one of your best friends.

01:29:20.000 I've never heard you talk about him once.

01:29:22.000 John Joseph is...

01:29:23.000 You're one of your best friends, though?

01:29:24.000 Are you serious with this one?

01:29:26.000 Because I will fucking find him and I'll bring him in here.

01:29:28.000 No, no.

01:29:28.000 John's one of my- John's literally- I've known John- Maybe one of your oldest friends.

01:29:32.000 No, no, no.

01:29:32.000 You say, no, no, no.

01:29:34.000 One more time, you fuck.

01:29:35.000 No, John and I are close.

01:29:36.000 No, you said oldest.

01:29:37.000 Let's go oldest.

01:29:38.000 If you asked John, I promise you, he would say- You're his best friend?

01:29:42.000 Is he in your will?

01:29:42.000 We spent a lot of time together.

01:29:44.000 We wrote a script together.

01:29:46.000 1974?

01:29:46.000 Me and John Joseph wrote a script together.

01:29:49.000 And in fact, I'll say how far back we go.

01:29:52.000 John used to live on Ludlow and Rivington.

01:29:54.000 And John used to have to meet me on, which is the most expensive real estate in New York.

01:29:58.000 You and I have been there.

01:29:59.000 And John used to have to meet me on Houston Street and walk me to his apartment or I would get jumped because nobody knew me in that neighborhood.

01:30:05.000 That was how far back we went.

01:30:06.000 We wrote a script together.

01:30:08.000 And I'll tell you a crazy story.

01:30:09.000 This doesn't mean he's your best friend, though.

01:30:11.000 Getting jumped.

01:30:12.000 Why would you get jumped?

01:30:13.000 Because no one knew you in that neighborhood?

01:30:14.000 You got jumped on Houston Street?

01:30:16.000 That's how dangerous that neighborhood was.

01:30:18.000 When?

01:30:19.000 In 1990, 1991. It was that bad?

01:30:23.000 Dude, you have no idea.

01:30:25.000 Is this the plot of Bronxdale?

01:30:26.000 I walked through Tompkins Square.

01:30:29.000 I met John in 1987. When I was with John, the first time I met him, it was 1987, and we walked through Tompkins Square Park.

01:30:38.000 And it was so fucking dangerous.

01:30:40.000 I couldn't believe how dangerous it was.

01:30:42.000 And John was very much feared.

01:30:45.000 They called John in jail Mighty Whitey.

01:30:47.000 John was a really tough guy.

01:30:48.000 What was he in jail for?

01:30:49.000 Well, he did a lot of stuff.

01:30:50.000 John grew up in abandoned buildings.

01:30:52.000 Hey, don't be general, bro.

01:30:53.000 What did he go to prison for?

01:30:55.000 John used to rob.

01:30:56.000 I don't know.

01:30:57.000 Anyway, point is, he had a problem with substances now.

01:31:00.000 And now he's like this radical, plant-based, triathlete guy.

01:31:05.000 He's in the best shape in the world.

01:31:07.000 He eats vegan food.

01:31:08.000 He's in his 50s.

01:31:09.000 Does he look good?

01:31:10.000 He looks amazing.

01:31:12.000 He looks great.

01:31:12.000 He's a fucking animal.

01:31:13.000 When it comes to conditioning and workouts, he rides his bike all over New York.

01:31:17.000 No, he sounds awesome.

01:31:18.000 He sounds like a good guy.

01:31:19.000 No, you dismissed him.

01:31:20.000 Best friend?

01:31:21.000 I know.

01:31:22.000 Best friend, though?

01:31:23.000 You've known Rogan for 70 years.

01:31:25.000 You've known me for 10 now.

01:31:27.000 I've known him longer, and I've known John.

01:31:28.000 I knew John Ferry.

01:31:29.000 When's the last time you talked to him?

01:31:30.000 Who do you know better, me or John?

01:31:33.000 Who do you know better?

01:31:34.000 You.

01:31:35.000 Interesting.

01:31:35.000 Nope, that's just because I spent time, but I know John very well.

01:31:38.000 Hey, bro, how many best friends?

01:31:38.000 If this is my space, is he in your top ten?

01:31:41.000 I'll tell you something even more important about John.

01:31:43.000 Is it a nine?

01:31:44.000 Isn't it a nine?

01:31:45.000 That's the last time I texted him.

01:31:46.000 It says Merry Christmas.

01:31:48.000 It says Merry Christmas.

01:31:49.000 He says shut up, fag.

01:31:51.000 Why did he call you a fag?

01:31:52.000 He's talking, he's watching, I just watched the Club Swanson-Doo-Hoo-Troy fight.

01:31:56.000 Holy shit, amazing fight of the year.

01:31:58.000 That was a while ago, bro.

01:31:58.000 He said Merry Christmas especially to my mom.

01:32:00.000 I will.

01:32:01.000 Okay, okay.

01:32:01.000 You're going a little too hard here.

01:32:03.000 No, but the point I'm making is that...

01:32:04.000 Let me tell you something.

01:32:05.000 If I explain to people that you're one of my best friends, I don't have to go all through all this.

01:32:09.000 Zero.

01:32:10.000 Because everybody knows.

01:32:11.000 They go, oh yeah, Brian Callen's one of your best friends because you're with him all the time.

01:32:14.000 I know John very well.

01:32:16.000 I talk to John regularly.

01:32:17.000 John did my podcast.

01:32:19.000 I know John very well.

01:32:19.000 If someone says, hey, is Eddie Bravo a friend of yours?

01:32:22.000 Eddie Bravo's one of my best friends.

01:32:23.000 I don't have to say, Eddie Bravo and I have known each other since he used to help me and walk me through House of Street because people were going to jump me.

01:32:29.000 And he texted me and said, Merry Christmas.

01:32:31.000 John and I are very close.

01:32:32.000 I don't show people a fucking text from Eddie.

01:32:34.000 We're very close.

01:32:35.000 I've got eight gigs of text from Eddie.

01:32:37.000 And they're all memes.

01:32:38.000 He always sends memes.

01:32:40.000 He sends some fucking hilarious memes.

01:32:42.000 Eddie Bravo has some fucking hilarious memes in his chambers.

01:32:46.000 And they're savage memes too if someone loses.

01:32:49.000 Savage memes.

01:32:50.000 Oh, the memes today.

01:32:51.000 It's a totally whole new element when it comes to losing fights.

01:32:56.000 Who's winning this fight, by the way?

01:32:58.000 Listen to this.

01:32:58.000 Who's winning this fight?

01:32:59.000 Listen to something really weird.

01:33:00.000 I think it might be Lozon.

01:33:01.000 It is Lozon.

01:33:02.000 But Marcin Held's gotten some real good positions.

01:33:06.000 Wait, I have to tell you the story about John Joseph.

01:33:07.000 No, you definitely don't.

01:33:08.000 Yes, I do.

01:33:08.000 You can stop now.

01:33:09.000 I know what you're trying to do, and you can let it go.

01:33:11.000 I don't care about that.

01:33:12.000 I don't care whether, guys, you believe that or not.

01:33:14.000 But listen, listen, I got a great story.

01:33:15.000 I'm still waiting for a picture of him.

01:33:17.000 Lower East Side, there used to be a guy who used to wrap, he'd be naked, and he used to wrap himself in a rug.

01:33:22.000 Is this a Mickey Rourke movie?

01:33:23.000 No, listen.

01:33:24.000 Listen, goddammit.

01:33:26.000 Goddammit.

01:33:26.000 He was a bare knuckle boxer.

01:33:28.000 Listen, you fucker.

01:33:29.000 There he is.

01:33:30.000 On Avenue A, there was a guy who used to roll himself in a carpet and he was naked.

01:33:34.000 And he would want people to...

01:33:35.000 He would ask you to step on him because he would be...

01:33:38.000 He was on your podcast.

01:33:39.000 Episode 7, he was on your podcast.

01:33:41.000 Yes, that's my boy!

01:33:42.000 Episode 7?

01:33:42.000 How many episodes have you done, B? I've seen John do...

01:33:45.000 I don't know a lot.

01:33:46.000 2 million.

01:33:47.000 I've seen John...

01:33:47.000 2,000.

01:33:48.000 I saw John give...

01:33:49.000 When John had no money...

01:33:50.000 John is the most generous person in the world.

01:33:52.000 I saw him give this homeless dude who he knew had nowhere to stay for the night.

01:33:56.000 I saw him give him 20 bucks.

01:33:57.000 Oh, oh, oh, you can't do that!

01:33:59.000 Whoa!

01:33:59.000 He did like a wheel kick to the head on the ground.

01:34:02.000 He's trying to go for, what, a reverse?

01:34:04.000 I know!

01:34:04.000 Well, he was trying to step over and do a triangle, but it looked like he was almost going for a wheel kick on the ground.

01:34:09.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

01:34:11.000 Is that the fight?

01:34:11.000 Maybe he was trying to set up a triangle.

01:34:12.000 Dude, we haven't paid much attention at all to this fight.

01:34:14.000 Yeah, you were just trying to defend John Joseph for a full round and a half.

01:34:17.000 I've been watching it!

01:34:17.000 No, you've been defending your friend for a long time.

01:34:19.000 Definitely weren't watching.

01:34:20.000 John's one of the best people on the planet.

01:34:21.000 I believe you.

01:34:22.000 I believe you.

01:34:22.000 He seems like it.

01:34:23.000 And I saw this documentary where they followed him around.

01:34:26.000 They followed him on his bike riding and his food preparation.

01:34:30.000 You know, he's really into eating real foods.

01:34:32.000 This is where Lowe's on fucked up.

01:34:34.000 You can't just jump guard on a guy like Held like that.

01:34:38.000 But in the judge's eyes, you lose too, though.

01:34:40.000 Yeah.

01:34:40.000 Well, especially because he never had it.

01:34:42.000 You know, I mean, as soon as Held feels like he's got guillotine on him, he goes to side control.

01:34:48.000 He passes right away.

01:34:48.000 He passed in the transition.

01:34:49.000 In the takedown transition.

01:34:51.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:34:51.000 So that's the difference between a super high-level guy that's used to avoiding that stuff all the time.

01:34:55.000 He's thinking two, three steps ahead, whereas maybe Lozon's only thinking maybe two or one.

01:35:01.000 I mean, he saw it, he went for it.

01:35:03.000 I admire that Lozon went for a bunch of shit there.

01:35:05.000 Me too.

01:35:06.000 Tried that armbar on the ground, but I feel like that transition where he had Marcin hurt.

01:35:11.000 Like, you know, and then he dove on him on the ground.

01:35:14.000 It's too early.

01:35:15.000 I agree.

01:35:15.000 If he had just separated him, he smashed him with those elbows.

01:35:18.000 If he had just created him some space and avoided the clinch.

01:35:21.000 And strike.

01:35:21.000 Especially when a guy of that high caliber grappling, his default is jiu-jitsu.

01:35:26.000 Don't you feel like...

01:35:27.000 So Auburn stuff, it's his natural reaction to defense.

01:35:29.000 Sometimes scrappy dudes like Lozon, they want to prove a point maybe and try to submit a guy like Held, which would be a huge feather in his cap.

01:35:37.000 Oh, that makes sense.

01:35:37.000 Kind of an ego thing.

01:35:38.000 Yeah, so he decides, look, I'm not scared to grapple with this guy.

01:35:40.000 I'll do everything with this guy.

01:35:41.000 Instead of sticking to a very calculated game plan.

01:35:44.000 Remember Alan Belcher did that with Paul Harris.

01:35:46.000 He went, fuck.

01:35:47.000 Go and grab that leg.

01:35:48.000 After dude!

01:35:49.000 Oh, and beautiful defense on the ground, too.

01:35:52.000 He's one of the only five, and I saw him, we had an appearance together for the UFC after, and I went, dude, I just gotta, I've never done this.

01:35:58.000 I just gotta give you a fucking hug.

01:36:00.000 I was like, I was so scared for you, man.

01:36:02.000 He had a leg lock master come in with him, too.

01:36:05.000 It might have been Lister.

01:36:06.000 It might have been Lister.

01:36:07.000 And he's also a high-level black belt.

01:36:09.000 Find out who trained Alan Belcher for the Husamar-Paul Jarez fight.

01:36:14.000 Husamar is spelled with an R. Paul Jarez.

01:36:17.000 Be a top nine Myspace friend and fill that up.

01:36:20.000 Let me open another bottle, guys.

01:36:22.000 Why worry?

01:36:23.000 Am I in your top nine if it's Myspace?

01:36:25.000 You are, buddy.

01:36:26.000 I'm about seven or eight.

01:36:27.000 Oh, you are.

01:36:28.000 You both are my t-shirt sales.

01:36:29.000 Is that fucking random New York guy is two or three?

01:36:31.000 No, he's not random.

01:36:32.000 Fuck you.

01:36:33.000 If the vegan from New York who defended you from the bum sucking your dicks three, where am I at, bro?

01:36:38.000 He's not random.

01:36:39.000 Dude, I gotta tell you.

01:36:41.000 I'll tell you a story about John Jones.

01:36:43.000 No, please don't.

01:36:43.000 No more stories about him.

01:36:45.000 Please.

01:36:46.000 No more.

01:36:46.000 He was the first guy to get tattoos.

01:36:48.000 I remember I... Shut the fuck up.

01:36:50.000 Just shut the fuck up.

01:36:50.000 Hey, bro, you fucking this guy?

01:36:52.000 Hey, how about this?

01:36:53.000 I'll do you one better.

01:36:54.000 No, no, no, no.

01:36:56.000 Decision, decision.

01:36:56.000 I did security for him.

01:36:58.000 They tell us about the time he caught all those carrots.

01:37:00.000 Who wins this decision?

01:37:01.000 I was on stage with him.

01:37:02.000 Who wins this decision?

01:37:03.000 Joe Lozon.

01:37:04.000 Oh, it's a split decision.

01:37:06.000 First one for held, second one for Lozon.

01:37:10.000 Split decision.

01:37:11.000 Joe Loza!

01:37:13.000 Yeah!

01:37:13.000 Joe Loza, Marcin Held, feeling kind of fucking salty.

01:37:17.000 Walks away.

01:37:18.000 I'm a fucker can't buy a win in the UFC. Two down.

01:37:21.000 Two down.

01:37:22.000 Wow.

01:37:23.000 John Anik.

01:37:24.000 No, they're throwing him to the dogs.

01:37:30.000 Powerful Joe Lozon.

01:37:31.000 Congratulations.

01:37:32.000 That's a giant for him.

01:37:33.000 Powerful gray hair by our friend Annick.

01:37:35.000 Yeah.

01:37:36.000 Looks like John Annick.

01:37:37.000 Here you go, buddy.

01:37:38.000 Dean Lister.

01:37:38.000 Yeah, Dean Lister.

01:37:39.000 Yeah, that's what he said.

01:37:40.000 Is that what he said?

01:37:41.000 Yes, that is what he said.

01:37:42.000 So Dean is the guy that helped out John Donaher initially, and Dean is also the guy that helped out...

01:37:50.000 Alan Belcher for the Husmar Palharas fight.

01:37:53.000 And then, of course, like we said, Donaher trained Tonin, who went toe-to-toe.

01:37:57.000 Like, look at this!

01:37:58.000 Like, this position here, man, when he had held Fucksville there, he had held in all sorts of trouble.

01:38:04.000 That's the classic Travis Brown move.

01:38:05.000 Yeah, I just feel like he should have separated and maybe just struck.

01:38:09.000 And not go to jiu-jitsu.

01:38:11.000 That's his wheelhouse.

01:38:12.000 You know what it's like?

01:38:13.000 It's like when Noguera had fucking Frank Mir against...

01:38:16.000 Remember he blasts him with that right hand and then shoots for the guillotine?

01:38:19.000 Frank Mir is a black belt through and through and was like, hold, let me figure this shit out.

01:38:23.000 Instead he could just pull back and knock them out.

01:38:26.000 Different story too.

01:38:27.000 Another story about John Joseph.

01:38:28.000 Shut your fucking mouth.

01:38:32.000 Gosh, if I could just get one more John Joseph story in.

01:38:34.000 Do you remember early on in Frank Mir's career, his first fight ever in the UFC? He won Roberto Traven.

01:38:42.000 He caught him in a fucking arm bar and snapped his arm.

01:38:45.000 So Traven was a world jiu-jitsu champion.

01:38:48.000 He was a black belt.

01:38:49.000 And I think Frank Muir was a purple belt.

01:38:51.000 And Frank Muir just jumped on him.

01:38:53.000 He cracked him with a shot, took his arm and snapped it.

01:38:56.000 And tapped him.

01:38:57.000 You know Frank is asking the UFC, like, please just let me go.

01:39:00.000 He goes, I won't even fight in the USA and compete.

01:39:02.000 I'll fight in like Russia or some shit.

01:39:03.000 He just wants to fight, right?

01:39:04.000 He just wants to fight for money.

01:39:06.000 Well, what's going on?

01:39:07.000 Well, he has that suspension.

01:39:09.000 Yeah, but if he has a suspension, he can't fight anywhere else.

01:39:11.000 Oh, yeah.

01:39:12.000 Russia's like, we don't give a fuck.

01:39:14.000 You know what he said?

01:39:15.000 Wear a fucking lizard suit.

01:39:17.000 How about when he said, wear a lizard suit.

01:39:20.000 Fucking inject your ass with whatever the fuck you want.

01:39:23.000 How about when he said, when he used to first be in the UFC, he wouldn't warm up before he'd go out to a fight.

01:39:29.000 Me?

01:39:29.000 I said, what do you mean?

01:39:30.000 He goes, well, to me, it's a fight.

01:39:32.000 If I get in a real fight, I'm not warmed up.

01:39:34.000 If I'm stepping in the octagon, I'm not going to warm up.

01:39:36.000 It was like a mental thing for him.

01:39:38.000 That makes no sense, sir.

01:39:40.000 That's not smart.

01:39:40.000 I need to talk to him.

01:39:42.000 Yeah.

01:39:43.000 Well, I think now he's doing it, though.

01:39:44.000 Yeah.

01:39:45.000 When you get older...

01:39:47.000 Valentina Shevchenko and Juliana Pena.

01:39:49.000 Interesting fight, man.

01:39:50.000 Interesting fight.

01:39:51.000 Pena's got to get that fight to the ground.

01:39:52.000 Dude, Pena versus Nunez is a fun fight.

01:39:55.000 Well, I mean, this has got to happen first.

01:39:57.000 And then when Shevchenko and Juliana Pena fight, we're going to find out a lot about how Shevchenko can deal with relentless ground and pound and takedowns.

01:40:07.000 Pena is fucking strong.

01:40:10.000 For 135, she mauls girls.

01:40:11.000 She's on a win streak, too, like a crazy.

01:40:13.000 She's very tough.

01:40:14.000 Pena?

01:40:15.000 Yeah, isn't she?

01:40:15.000 Well, she just beat Kat.

01:40:16.000 But it was Kat's comeback fight.

01:40:18.000 Kat had been out for a long time.

01:40:19.000 It's a huge win.

01:40:20.000 It was a good fight.

01:40:21.000 Good fight.

01:40:22.000 Good fight for her.

01:40:23.000 And this is a big fight for her.

01:40:24.000 This is like really all the marbles.

01:40:27.000 Yeah, this is a game changer.

01:40:29.000 Valentina's fucking, she's no joke, man.

01:40:32.000 She's fucking scary.

01:40:33.000 Yeah, beat Holly on that Chicago card, right?

01:40:35.000 And she shows that nasty fucking right hook, man, where she stands in that southpaw stance and she slides back and just catches you with that check hook.

01:40:44.000 The check hook, yeah.

01:40:45.000 Yeah.

01:40:46.000 It's a fucking interesting fight, man, because this girl is as game as they come.

01:40:50.000 Pena is super fucking aggressive.

01:40:52.000 Dude, there's some good prospects in Invicta.

01:40:54.000 I was catching some of the highlights.

01:40:56.000 I think it was last night or two nights ago.

01:40:58.000 Did you see that one fight where the girl choked the girl to sleep?

01:41:01.000 Find out what that is.

01:41:02.000 It's on the underground, Jamie.

01:41:03.000 And I saw one girl.

01:41:05.000 Choked the girl to sleep and lost.

01:41:07.000 Put her to sleep at the end of the third round, and she was out cold at the buzzer.

01:41:11.000 So it should have been end of the fight.

01:41:13.000 Game over.

01:41:13.000 And they fucking went to the judges' scorecards, and the girl got the decision.

01:41:16.000 What the fuck?

01:41:16.000 That violates everything about fighting.

01:41:19.000 That violates everything about fighting.

01:41:21.000 Donald Cerrone, Jorge Masvidal.

01:41:22.000 That's a fun fight, man.

01:41:23.000 I'm excited about that fight.

01:41:24.000 That's in Denver, yeah.

01:41:25.000 It's a good Fox card.

01:41:26.000 Cerrone, Denver crowd.

01:41:28.000 Jorge Masvidal looks so damn good, but I think Donald's got...

01:41:32.000 They're both very good.

01:41:33.000 Jorge Masvidal just beat up Jake Ellenberger in his last fight.

01:41:36.000 It was a big victory for him.

01:41:38.000 And Masvidal was super sneaky.

01:41:40.000 Real technical.

01:41:40.000 That's such a good matchup, man.

01:41:42.000 Excellent boxer.

01:41:43.000 Not just a great boxer, very good takedown defense, very good submissions.

01:41:46.000 He's good at everything.

01:41:47.000 Remember, he's the original backyard brawler, too.

01:41:49.000 And he's fighting Donald, though.

01:41:50.000 Yeah, he was in the Kimbo Slice backyard brawls, where he fought bare knuckle in fucking Miami.

01:41:54.000 Yeah, he's one of my favorites.

01:41:55.000 Yeah, he's on YouTube, man, fighting bare knuckle.

01:41:58.000 And he's a schooled boxer, though.

01:42:00.000 He seems like an educated boxer.

01:42:01.000 He's good at everything.

01:42:02.000 Very good at everything.

01:42:03.000 He's a legit, 100% mixed martial artist.

01:42:05.000 He does everything.

01:42:06.000 Hey, did you see Robbie Lawler left ATT? Why?

01:42:11.000 He said, deuces.

01:42:12.000 Why?

01:42:13.000 Where'd he go?

01:42:14.000 He's just gonna inject himself that new young blood and fuckin' punch meat.

01:42:17.000 He's gonna go to Monterey.

01:42:19.000 Oh wait, is that legal?

01:42:20.000 That would be legal, right?

01:42:21.000 That's blood-doping, son?

01:42:23.000 No, they're just gonna stop you.

01:42:24.000 They won't even know you did it.

01:42:25.000 Yeah, or you get somebody- Oh, but you're not even allowed to do an IV. Yeah, let alone blood dope with a young fuckin' shit.

01:42:31.000 Hold on, is this John Wick 2?

01:42:32.000 Cause I might be all in.

01:42:33.000 Sign me up.

01:42:34.000 I might be all in.

01:42:37.000 But Vin Diesel, he shit on right away.

01:42:40.000 No, no, no, he shit on Vin Diesel's mouth.

01:42:42.000 John Wick, not only does he drive a muscle car, he...

01:42:45.000 Oh, look at this thing.

01:42:47.000 He's into motorcycles, too.

01:42:48.000 And they killed his dog, and that's why he had to fuck everybody up.

01:42:50.000 I'm in.

01:42:51.000 The first John Wick, so underrated.

01:42:53.000 Oh, it's a great fucking film.

01:42:54.000 Dude, I saw him in Starbucks.

01:42:56.000 I'm gonna shit my pants.

01:42:57.000 Oh, really?

01:42:57.000 He's tall, isn't he?

01:42:58.000 He's a lot taller.

01:42:59.000 He's a big dude.

01:43:00.000 Yes.

01:43:00.000 Jumped on a Harley.

01:43:01.000 Do you know what his nationality is?

01:43:02.000 He owned that joint.

01:43:03.000 You know what he's half?

01:43:03.000 Japanese.

01:43:04.000 No.

01:43:05.000 Korean.

01:43:06.000 No.

01:43:06.000 Gay.

01:43:06.000 I like your attitude so far.

01:43:08.000 Gonna need more guesses.

01:43:09.000 Filipino.

01:43:10.000 What?

01:43:10.000 Not Filipino either.

01:43:11.000 So they got a John Wick VR coming out.

01:43:13.000 Keep guessing what he's half.

01:43:15.000 Because one side's white and the other side is...

01:43:17.000 Look at what Jamie's got here.

01:43:18.000 John Wick VR game.

01:43:19.000 Not Russian.

01:43:20.000 I'm gonna have to have you keep guessing.

01:43:21.000 I don't give a fuck.

01:43:22.000 Just come up with the answer.

01:43:23.000 It's important.

01:43:23.000 Just come up with the answer.

01:43:24.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:43:25.000 Let me look at his face.

01:43:25.000 Look at his face.

01:43:26.000 Chinese.

01:43:27.000 Okay, no.

01:43:28.000 Just say it.

01:43:29.000 I said Asia.

01:43:29.000 Oh, look at his...

01:43:29.000 I'm not going to say it until you tell me.

01:43:31.000 God damn it, get your fucking microphone on.

01:43:33.000 Guess what it is.

01:43:33.000 Ready?

01:43:34.000 Guess what it is.

01:43:35.000 What?

01:43:35.000 And after this, I got a John Joseph story, but listen to this.

01:43:38.000 No.

01:43:39.000 One more.

01:43:39.000 No.

01:43:40.000 Dude, can you believe it?

01:43:42.000 He's half Samoan.

01:43:43.000 I can't believe you even bothered to fucking waste our time with that.

01:43:45.000 Because he just sounded dramatic.

01:43:46.000 Samoan's a tough one.

01:43:47.000 It's a tough one, but he's big.

01:43:48.000 That's why he's so big.

01:43:49.000 He's tall.

01:43:50.000 He's 6'2".

01:43:51.000 Easy.

01:43:52.000 Hey, how much fucking money did he make off Matrix?

01:43:55.000 A lot.

01:43:56.000 Hundreds of millions.

01:43:56.000 Enough to buy everybody a Harley.

01:43:58.000 He bought all the stunt guys Harleys, I think.

01:44:01.000 That don't mean shit.

01:44:03.000 He's so rich.

01:44:04.000 I just love that movie, man.

01:44:06.000 I look, it's a stupid movie, and it's ridiculous, and it's unrealistic, but I like a guy who drives a muscle car and fucks everybody up.

01:44:11.000 I never saw John Wick.

01:44:12.000 And he's solo.

01:44:13.000 I'm in.

01:44:13.000 There's no sidekick.

01:44:14.000 Exactly.

01:44:15.000 He calls no help.

01:44:16.000 I'm in.

01:44:16.000 Yeah, me too.

01:44:16.000 Do you remember Cobra with Sylvester Stallone?

01:44:18.000 You bet your sweet ass the cover was like this.

01:44:21.000 And he comes out and he's got a match in his mouth.

01:44:23.000 Yeah!

01:44:23.000 Fuck yeah.

01:44:24.000 He drove that old car, that cool old car.

01:44:26.000 What was it?

01:44:27.000 What was it?

01:44:27.000 Okay, here's the...

01:44:29.000 What is the fight?

01:44:29.000 What is the fight, Jamie?

01:44:30.000 What does it say here?

01:44:31.000 This is where she gets...

01:44:32.000 Okay, well, we'll find out who it was, but check this out.

01:44:35.000 Watch the transition.

01:44:36.000 This is the end of the fight.

01:44:37.000 Check it out.

01:44:38.000 So there's a scramble, and in the scramble, okay, well, this is way later, but the girl catches, like, a rear naked choke from the side and puts the girls to sleep.

01:44:47.000 She's hanging on.

01:44:47.000 Buzzer.

01:44:48.000 Watch.

01:44:48.000 Gets up.

01:44:48.000 Girl's out cold.

01:44:49.000 Fight's over.

01:44:50.000 Game over.

01:44:51.000 Game over.

01:44:52.000 100%.

01:44:52.000 TKL. That girl's out fucking cold.

01:44:55.000 459 seconds.

01:44:56.000 Powerful Gracie Baja on the booty right in front of you.

01:44:59.000 Not a good ad.

01:45:00.000 Not a good ad while you're getting put to sleep.

01:45:01.000 Not the kind of representation.

01:45:02.000 Find out who it was, young Jamie.

01:45:05.000 It says Haga?

01:45:07.000 Well, just find out who it was.

01:45:08.000 Just find out who it was.

01:45:10.000 But the actual names.

01:45:11.000 Let's find the actual names of both girls.

01:45:13.000 Because it was on Invicta last night, so see if you could find it.

01:45:17.000 But anyway, point being, it's terrible officiating.

01:45:19.000 When someone's asleep, the fight's over.

01:45:20.000 Period.

01:45:21.000 End of discussion.

01:45:22.000 She's like getting knocked out with one second to go.

01:45:24.000 It doesn't...

01:45:25.000 Just because, oh, you're out cold, but ding, there's the bell.

01:45:29.000 That tatted up girls trying to fight in the UFC too, right?

01:45:31.000 Didn't she get on the mic and was like, put me in the fucking UFC to murder you?

01:45:35.000 She just won.

01:45:35.000 So is she going to UFC now?

01:45:36.000 I didn't see her fight.

01:45:37.000 She looks kind of hot.

01:45:38.000 I saw a few seconds of her fight, but I was running out the door.

01:45:41.000 Dude, there's one girl on this card that will knock your dick in the dirt.

01:45:44.000 Hold on, Jamie.

01:45:44.000 Say it again, Jamie.

01:45:45.000 Amy Montenegro defeated.

01:45:47.000 She defeated Celine Haga via unanimous decision while being unconscious.

01:45:52.000 Tight move, girl.

01:45:53.000 Fuck that.

01:45:54.000 So, in my world, Celine Haga wins.

01:45:58.000 Yeah, but we don't live in that world.

01:46:00.000 No, no, they changed that.

01:46:01.000 They reversed that.

01:46:03.000 That fight, there's no way that stays.

01:46:05.000 No, that's crazy.

01:46:06.000 They reversed that.

01:46:07.000 You can't have that.

01:46:08.000 You can't have that.

01:46:09.000 That's an offense to fighting.

01:46:11.000 Hey, let's go ahead and call up the girl that won at 145, though, huh?

01:46:14.000 We kind of need some fucking contenders up there.

01:46:17.000 It says it was at the buzzer and shit.

01:46:18.000 She lost?

01:46:19.000 She put her to sleep.

01:46:20.000 Still loses on scorecards.

01:46:21.000 So what?

01:46:22.000 But that's bad officiating because she was out before the bell rang.

01:46:26.000 Exactly.

01:46:26.000 The fight's over.

01:46:27.000 The fight's over.

01:46:28.000 It's ref air.

01:46:29.000 Yeah, the ref made a huge mistake.

01:46:31.000 He fucked up.

01:46:32.000 They should appeal.

01:46:33.000 They'll win.

01:46:33.000 What state is that in?

01:46:34.000 If they don't win, it's a huge injustice.

01:46:36.000 If they don't win, I will fly out there and piss on...

01:46:39.000 You say Kansas City?

01:46:40.000 Missouri.

01:46:41.000 Missouri, get your shit together.

01:46:43.000 Your chief's already fucking lost.

01:46:45.000 Figure it out.

01:46:45.000 This guy's taekwondo reminds me of me when I was young.

01:46:48.000 Shut your fucking mouth.

01:46:49.000 All right.

01:46:51.000 All right.

01:46:52.000 Don't make me.

01:46:52.000 Right before you even get to it.

01:46:53.000 Don't make me.

01:46:55.000 I'm like, all right.

01:46:55.000 Don't replay the video of your sidekick lesson.

01:46:58.000 Guys, my wheel kick.

01:46:59.000 I'm just sitting here recording the whole thing.

01:47:01.000 I'm just glad there's no video of my wheel kick in the air.

01:47:03.000 I've seen it.

01:47:04.000 Damn it.

01:47:04.000 Needs work.

01:47:05.000 Every live show they ask for it, B, huh?

01:47:07.000 Yeah, it's exhausting.

01:47:08.000 And I'm in jeans.

01:47:09.000 I'm like, nah.

01:47:10.000 Yeah, you wear athletic shoes because you know they're going to ask.

01:47:12.000 That's not true, Brendan Chopper.

01:47:13.000 I forgot that Sean Shirk knockout.

01:47:16.000 That Sean Shirk one.

01:47:17.000 Oh, that's Sean Shirk back in the day, too.

01:47:19.000 Remember?

01:47:20.000 I was texting you this the other day.

01:47:22.000 I had a random thought about Sean Shirk because my brain's very strange.

01:47:24.000 He was a beast.

01:47:25.000 He was a beast.

01:47:26.000 He was a beast.

01:47:26.000 You know what I remember for?

01:47:27.000 Those shitty, shitty teeth, though.

01:47:29.000 They were like a real Mako shark's teeth.

01:47:33.000 Very sharp teeth.

01:47:34.000 I don't remember that at all!

01:47:35.000 I know!

01:47:35.000 You're so superficial!

01:47:37.000 Joe, no!

01:47:38.000 I text Joe, I go, remember his teeth?

01:47:40.000 He go, not at all.

01:47:42.000 I sent a picture of Sean Shirk smiling like this.

01:47:45.000 Brandon will pick up some stuff.

01:47:47.000 There's his teeth.

01:47:47.000 Looks totally normal.

01:47:48.000 Handsome guy.

01:47:49.000 Wait a minute.

01:47:49.000 His bottom teeth look like...

01:47:50.000 Get in on those teeth.

01:47:51.000 Get in on those teeth.

01:47:52.000 Small guy.

01:47:53.000 I don't get it, dude.

01:47:54.000 Excuse me, sir, it looks like a jigsaw puzzle.

01:47:57.000 You are so weird.

01:47:58.000 Would you get your teeth fixed if you were him?

01:48:00.000 Would that be before or after you got your fake tan?

01:48:03.000 Like, if you were him, how would you handle it?

01:48:05.000 Would you get a fade?

01:48:06.000 The important thing is he's all natural.

01:48:08.000 Oh, yeah.

01:48:09.000 You remember the videos they'd show him with, like, weighted vests and climbing up stairs, just this little fucking people?

01:48:15.000 Some of the most insane strength and conditioning workouts.

01:48:18.000 He was jacked.

01:48:19.000 The shark.

01:48:20.000 Don't you ever fucking forget it.

01:48:22.000 And he had a tunnel under his house that went straight to Mexico.

01:48:26.000 And that's what he would get.

01:48:28.000 All of his vitamins.

01:48:29.000 All his fucking shark blood.

01:48:31.000 All his bull shark blood.

01:48:33.000 They would pull it right out of Great White Shark.

01:48:36.000 Bull shark.

01:48:37.000 They would grind up Great White Shark's dicks and put it in a protein shake for him every morning.

01:48:42.000 He was such a savage for a while.

01:48:45.000 Hey, remember he lost to BJ and then ran out of the arena?

01:48:47.000 They found him underneath the car.

01:48:50.000 Chewing on the muffler.

01:48:51.000 From Tesla, right?

01:48:52.000 What?

01:48:52.000 That's not true.

01:48:53.000 They were trying to test him?

01:48:54.000 No, he was just sad.

01:48:55.000 No, he was fucking bummed because BJ threw a flying knee and knocked him out.

01:48:58.000 BJ beat the shit out of him in that fight.

01:49:00.000 So he ran under MGM and was under a van.

01:49:02.000 Look at BJ. He looks very fired up, man.

01:49:04.000 BJ's loving it.

01:49:05.000 This goes one of two ways.

01:49:06.000 Either we feel really bad for BJ and he gets just outclassed by a young line, or I think it's a fucking five-round scrap.

01:49:12.000 Well, this...

01:49:13.000 It's not going to be...

01:49:14.000 Five-round.

01:49:15.000 Look how fucking intense BJ looks, man.

01:49:17.000 He looks fired up.

01:49:17.000 Is it safe to say he's never fought anybody with this kind of style?

01:49:20.000 No.

01:49:21.000 Yeah, no one has a style of Yair Rodriguez.

01:49:23.000 Yair is very good at scrambling off of his back, too.

01:49:26.000 He's really good from the bottom, and that's gonna be really interesting because BJ has a fucking crushing top game.

01:49:33.000 And he had a crushing top game at 55 and above.

01:49:36.000 At 145, which is where he's at, and apparently he's been making 45 easy.

01:49:41.000 Yep.

01:49:41.000 And, you know, he just is super focused on cardio.

01:49:43.000 He's been training at Jackson's for a long time now because he's had two cancellations.

01:49:48.000 One injury cancellation and one IV cancellation.

01:49:51.000 He took an IV out of competition because he was dehydrated.

01:49:54.000 So silly.

01:49:55.000 He did a hard, hard training session and was honest about it.

01:49:58.000 Just said, yeah, you know, I took an IV. I just had some water put in his body.

01:50:01.000 It's nothing.

01:50:02.000 It really is nothing.

01:50:03.000 That was supposed to be in the LA card, too, yeah?

01:50:05.000 Mm-hmm.

01:50:05.000 And they pulled him from the card because of that.

01:50:07.000 So...

01:50:08.000 He's had a ton of time.

01:50:09.000 The positive is he's had a ton of time, and he's never wavered.

01:50:12.000 He's been at Jackson's the whole time.

01:50:14.000 How old is he now?

01:50:14.000 BJ's 38. And he has Perillo, he has Winklejohn in his corner, and Jackson.

01:50:20.000 He's been fighting a long time.

01:50:21.000 Perillo's my coach of the year, man.

01:50:23.000 Perillo's an excellent boxing coach.

01:50:25.000 Excellent, excellent boxing coach.

01:50:26.000 Who is that guy right there?

01:50:27.000 That's Perillo.

01:50:27.000 That's Jason Perillo.

01:50:29.000 Only works with the best of the best.

01:50:30.000 Creme de la creme.

01:50:31.000 He's very, very good.

01:50:32.000 And he's with BJ for a long fucking time.

01:50:35.000 Well, you know, BJ just felt real bad about how his fight with Frankie Edgar went.

01:50:40.000 And he just really felt like that wasn't him.

01:50:43.000 It was a strange style.

01:50:44.000 He was up on his toes.

01:50:45.000 He was almost in that boxing style, which was crazy.

01:50:47.000 It wasn't even like a boxing style.

01:50:50.000 It was like his legs were so close together.

01:50:52.000 He thought he'd be more efficient and he'd use less energy.

01:50:58.000 That was the idea behind it.

01:50:59.000 And he apparently had been doing it in camp and had been working.

01:51:03.000 Not against Frank Edgar who didn't dive into that double leg.

01:51:05.000 Well, it's also, you know, you're going right in against Frank Edgar.

01:51:08.000 This boy is a young fucking lion.

01:51:12.000 He's so athletic.

01:51:12.000 He's so, like, kicking with those crazy Taekwondo kicks.

01:51:16.000 Well, here's the thing.

01:51:18.000 BJ might have the best chin in the history of fighting.

01:51:21.000 At this age?

01:51:22.000 Might have the best chin.

01:51:23.000 Still has not been knocked out.

01:51:24.000 He's never been knocked out.

01:51:25.000 He's been beat up.

01:51:25.000 He's been stopped.

01:51:26.000 He got stopped by Frankie on cuts.

01:51:29.000 Frankie got on top of him and beat the shit out of him.

01:51:30.000 Frankie did work and didn't knock him out.

01:51:33.000 Didn't knock him out.

01:51:33.000 He took shots.

01:51:34.000 He got beat up by Rory McDonald when Rory was a legit 170. Top of the food chain 170. Rory beat the shit out of him.

01:51:41.000 And he didn't stop him.

01:51:42.000 Nick Diaz beat the fuck out of him.

01:51:44.000 That's another one who's never been knocked out.

01:51:46.000 Nick Diaz.

01:51:47.000 But George St. Pierre stopped him.

01:51:49.000 George St. Pierre kept him on his corner.

01:51:51.000 He kept him on his stool in between the corner.

01:51:52.000 But just overwhelmed him, beat him up, and just mauled him.

01:51:56.000 You know, when George was at the top of his game.

01:51:59.000 Did they stop that fight early?

01:52:00.000 Yes.

01:52:01.000 I didn't know that.

01:52:01.000 I never root against BJ. Never root against BJ. I'm not rooting for anybody in this fight.

01:52:07.000 This fight for me is like, can the legend come back?

01:52:11.000 I mean, does he have it in his shell?

01:52:12.000 Does he have it in his body?

01:52:13.000 Does he have it in his will?

01:52:14.000 How has he been treating his body?

01:52:16.000 How has he been taking care of himself?

01:52:18.000 Where's his motivation?

01:52:19.000 You know, does he look at this as one last shot at redemption?

01:52:22.000 And then this fucking kid who is just an assassin He's so good and so hungry and he's coming up and he's so dynamic and he shows all of this massive potential.

01:52:35.000 He has incredible creativity.

01:52:36.000 He has unbelievable dexterity in his legs.

01:52:40.000 That Andrew Feely knockout where he hit him with that flying switch round kick.

01:52:45.000 Dude, he's no joke.

01:52:46.000 He can do things that no one else can.

01:52:49.000 So what he's like, he's like a top-level taekwondo fighter who also knows how to fight on the ground, who also knows how to box.

01:52:56.000 Was he brought into Jose Aldo's camp to get him ready for...

01:52:59.000 No.

01:53:00.000 That wasn't him.

01:53:01.000 That was the other guy.

01:53:02.000 Completely different guy.

01:53:03.000 That guy's in jungle fights.

01:53:05.000 Rumble in the jungle or something like that?

01:53:07.000 Yeah, he's in jungle fights.

01:53:08.000 This is a different camp.

01:53:09.000 That guy's a killer, too.

01:53:10.000 I don't know.

01:53:10.000 Yes.

01:53:11.000 No, he is.

01:53:12.000 Goddammit, why am I blanking on his name?

01:53:14.000 Jonas...

01:53:14.000 Jonas Speed...

01:53:17.000 Goddammit, what is his last name?

01:53:20.000 Jungle Fight Champ.

01:53:21.000 Jonas Speed brought in to help...

01:53:24.000 Jose Aldo.

01:53:25.000 Jose Aldo.

01:53:26.000 And he looks just like...

01:53:27.000 Jamie will find him.

01:53:28.000 Bill Harino?

01:53:29.000 Billerino, yeah.

01:53:30.000 Billerino.

01:53:31.000 Billerino's a bad motherfucker.

01:53:33.000 Let's get that motherfucker over.

01:53:35.000 He'll come over eventually, I'm sure.

01:53:37.000 But he's fighting in Jungle Fight, and he put up a highlight reel of Jonas Billerino, man.

01:53:42.000 He does some crazy shit, bro.

01:53:44.000 That's one of the reasons why they brought him in for Conor.

01:53:47.000 Didn't work, by the way.

01:53:48.000 Didn't help.

01:53:49.000 Thanks for all the help.

01:53:50.000 Kadoosh!

01:53:50.000 19 seconds.

01:53:51.000 What Billerino doesn't have is that fucking piston on the left hand that Conor asked.

01:53:56.000 Talking about the X Factor?

01:53:57.000 Yeah.

01:53:57.000 I'm with the Irish X Factor.

01:53:59.000 Well, he's also got a fucking iron chin, and he's a savage.

01:54:02.000 Look at that kick, look at that.

01:54:03.000 But Bill Arino's nasty with his kicks, man.

01:54:05.000 Nasty.

01:54:06.000 He leans way back.

01:54:07.000 You can't punch him in the face.

01:54:08.000 Oh, that was a round kick, but thanks.

01:54:10.000 No, I'm saying before that.

01:54:11.000 Look at that switch high kick, yeah.

01:54:14.000 He's nasty.

01:54:16.000 Well, you know what, man?

01:54:16.000 There's a ton of those guys now all over the world.

01:54:20.000 Yes.

01:54:20.000 There's a ton of those guys who are traditional Kyokushin fighters, traditional Muay Thai fighters, and they're getting into MMA now.

01:54:27.000 Gaston Bolanos is making his fucking MMA debut in DeBelletor.

01:54:31.000 Is he?

01:54:31.000 Everybody be working on your takedown skills.

01:54:33.000 You best work on those takedown skills, son.

01:54:36.000 That's all you're gonna be doing.

01:54:37.000 Fuck the stand-up game.

01:54:38.000 You're standing with a legit Muay Thai master.

01:54:42.000 I'm gonna go ahead and do that Randy Couture, James Toney game.

01:54:44.000 Look at this guy.

01:54:45.000 Look at how hard this guy is to hit.

01:54:46.000 Look at this.

01:54:47.000 Yeah, he's nasty.

01:54:49.000 Then again, then again, it's not the UFC. But he's beautiful from that southpaw stance, and he throws that nasty leg kick, or a nasty left kick, rather, to the body.

01:54:57.000 Holy shit, we're about to watch BJ Penn fight.

01:54:59.000 Yeah, fuck that guy.

01:55:00.000 Yeah, put Billerino off.

01:55:02.000 Let's focus.

01:55:03.000 Let's focus.

01:55:05.000 Focusing, guys.

01:55:06.000 How are you feeling right now?

01:55:07.000 I'm a little nervous.

01:55:09.000 BJ's one of my faves.

01:55:10.000 Brian Cowan, are you paying attention to this, or are you thinking of John Joseph stories?

01:55:13.000 I've got a lot.

01:55:14.000 I've got a bunch of them on the tip of my tongue.

01:55:16.000 I just can't wait for this to end.

01:55:18.000 Last thing about John Joseph.

01:55:19.000 One more thing.

01:55:21.000 There's a time we juiced and then we fucked each other.

01:55:23.000 And then we went and ate vegan food.

01:55:25.000 I dove into a crowd.

01:55:27.000 The only time I did something, I dove into a crowd off of his stage when he was in the Cro-Mags.

01:55:31.000 Okay, shut the fuck up.

01:55:32.000 I was joking.

01:55:33.000 BJ Penn's up, sir.

01:55:35.000 It was the scariest time for me because I'm a radical kid.

01:55:38.000 Excuse me.

01:55:40.000 Come on, BJ. It's time.

01:55:43.000 There's nothing worse than seeing a legend just get murked.

01:55:46.000 Well, he's finding the new blood.

01:55:49.000 By the way, Bruce Buffer has a blown ACL while he's screaming and jumping around up there.

01:55:53.000 Yeah, he has not had the surgery because he does not want to take the time off of announcing.

01:55:57.000 That is a goddamn savage.

01:56:00.000 I don't want to see the UFC without Bruce Buffer.

01:56:02.000 He's a savage.

01:56:03.000 He's amazing.

01:56:04.000 Bruce Buffer is the greatest ring announcer in the world.

01:56:07.000 Ever.

01:56:08.000 Hey, do you think Mike Goldberg's in the crowd going, Virtually identical!

01:56:12.000 Oh, how dare you.

01:56:13.000 How dare you.

01:56:14.000 He's yelling out for BJ to embrace the grind.

01:56:18.000 BJ's embracing the grind!

01:56:19.000 Well, this is in Phoenix.

01:56:20.000 This is Mike's hometown.

01:56:22.000 Mike fucking loves MMA, man.

01:56:24.000 Oh yeah, he's a fit.

01:56:25.000 There's BJ's girl.

01:56:25.000 You're gonna miss Mike, I'm sure.

01:56:26.000 I will stay in contact with Mike till the day I die.

01:56:29.000 Yeah.

01:56:29.000 Mike is my friend, and you know, the UFC was sold to WME. They have their own thoughts on what they want to do, and I will be friends with Mike Goldberg till the day I die.

01:56:40.000 I love that guy.

01:56:41.000 Can't get the guy a sign off, though.

01:56:42.000 Yeah, man.

01:56:43.000 You're so good.

01:56:44.000 I didn't know what to do, man.

01:56:45.000 Can't do one of those old, weird animal videos?

01:56:46.000 They didn't want to, man.

01:56:48.000 You know, I don't know what's going on.

01:56:50.000 You should be civilized.

01:56:51.000 I know.

01:56:52.000 Well, I don't know what's going on in terms of organizations, you know?

01:56:55.000 I don't either.

01:56:57.000 I literally know Dana, and Dana's the reason why I'm still there.

01:57:00.000 I mean, I've met Ari.

01:57:01.000 He's a very nice guy.

01:57:02.000 He's a very smart guy.

01:57:04.000 He's a very successful guy.

01:57:05.000 I wish them all the best.

01:57:06.000 I'm rooting for them 100%.

01:57:08.000 Obviously, I'm still with the company.

01:57:09.000 I love them.

01:57:10.000 It's an honor to work for the UFC. But if Dana was out, you're out.

01:57:16.000 Oh, yes.

01:57:18.000 He's the only reason why I'm there.

01:57:20.000 What if he's kind of there, but he's on the island all the time?

01:57:23.000 Fight companion, motherfucker!

01:57:28.000 I'm gonna be 50 in August.

01:57:31.000 I like staying home.

01:57:32.000 I like playing with my kids.

01:57:34.000 I like doing jujitsu.

01:57:35.000 I like playing pool.

01:57:36.000 I like doing yoga.

01:57:38.000 I've been rolling again.

01:57:39.000 Loving it.

01:57:40.000 Where at?

01:57:40.000 Jean-Jacques Machado's.

01:57:42.000 Nice.

01:57:43.000 I've been doing a little gi roll to get myself back.

01:57:45.000 Right away.

01:57:46.000 Kick to the body.

01:57:47.000 Kick to the body.

01:57:48.000 453, 452, 451. First round if you want to sync it up.

01:57:52.000 Hey, no advice to BJ Penn, right?

01:57:54.000 I know, I know.

01:57:54.000 Brian, please shut the fuck up.

01:57:55.000 You've never had a fight.

01:57:57.000 No advice to BJ Penn.

01:57:58.000 I was a Taekwondo master.

01:57:59.000 BJ moving.

01:58:00.000 No, you're never a master.

01:58:01.000 BJ with the takedown.

01:58:01.000 Uh-oh.

01:58:02.000 He's got the clinch.

01:58:03.000 He caught the kick.

01:58:05.000 Good job of stepping inside that spinning kick, too.

01:58:08.000 That's one thing I can't handle.

01:58:09.000 Hall of Famer?

01:58:10.000 You might want to stay offline, Brian, for a few days after this.

01:58:12.000 You might want to lay low, but let me talk to you about that.

01:58:14.000 Yeah, definitely don't look at those Facebook comments.

01:58:16.000 Alright, here we go.

01:58:17.000 Look, Aaron tries to take BJ down.

01:58:19.000 Interesting.

01:58:19.000 Well, he ties up with that overhook.

01:58:21.000 Do you ever hit that?

01:58:22.000 You know that...

01:58:23.000 You ask me?

01:58:24.000 No.

01:58:26.000 Yair on the outside, super dangerous.

01:58:28.000 Now BJ is also moving to his right, which I don't like when Yair throws that horrible left kick.

01:58:34.000 I know.

01:58:35.000 But you know what?

01:58:36.000 It's weird for guys who are right-handed to move to their left.

01:58:39.000 You've got to train it.

01:58:40.000 It's a natural reaction for whatever reason for guys to want to move to their right.

01:58:44.000 So when you're fighting a guy who's a southpaw who's a nasty kicker, so you have distance, you have a distance issue to deal with, and then you also have to mitigate the fact that you're walking into his power kick.

01:58:54.000 But remember, Yaya's switching constantly.

01:58:56.000 Yep, constantly.

01:58:57.000 So it's like pick your poison, son.

01:58:58.000 Yep, constantly.

01:58:59.000 Kind of just got to do your thing if you're BJ. But that's that Taekwondo style.

01:59:03.000 He can fight off of either way, left or right forward.

01:59:07.000 So BJ is more of a boxing-oriented striker.

01:59:11.000 He's only boxing.

01:59:11.000 He throws leg kicks.

01:59:12.000 I mean, remember he fucked up Diego Sanchez with a head kick, remember?

01:59:16.000 Goddamn, that was a while ago.

01:59:17.000 Yeah, that was a while ago.

01:59:18.000 But that kick to the head was what opened up that giant gash.

01:59:21.000 Ooh, nice jab there by BJ. He needs to relax just a little bit and pick his shots and he can get him out in the first round.

01:59:26.000 Oh, don't say that ever.

01:59:28.000 I know, it's fucked up, right?

01:59:29.000 I don't know why you said that.

01:59:30.000 I know.

01:59:30.000 Ooh, right hand by Yair.

01:59:32.000 See, the thing is, BJ looks in shape and BJ looks fit.

01:59:36.000 He looks motivated.

01:59:36.000 It's just a matter of whether or not he can get this to the ground or he can get something going and try to sap something out of this young kid.

01:59:43.000 I don't know if Rodriguez is as fast as the roadrunner.

01:59:45.000 Oh!

01:59:46.000 He got stunned with that kick.

01:59:47.000 He got stung.

01:59:48.000 Or BJ Penn slow as fuck.

01:59:49.000 That left kick went through the guard and it caught part of the...

01:59:53.000 Oh!

01:59:53.000 Head kick!

01:59:53.000 Please keep your hand up.

01:59:55.000 And again, he's moving to his right.

01:59:56.000 I see it.

01:59:57.000 I know.

01:59:58.000 And Yair is- Oh!

01:59:59.000 Wheel kick!

02:00:00.000 He catched BJ in the head with a wheel kick.

02:00:04.000 Oh my god.

02:00:05.000 Yair is so fucking scary.

02:00:08.000 Oh wow.

02:00:09.000 Barely, barely avoided that high kick.

02:00:11.000 So what BJ's gotta do is move on the outside and then figure out the- Oh!

02:00:16.000 Look at this!

02:00:18.000 Oh, Yair is so strong.

02:00:20.000 Knee to the body.

02:00:21.000 Come on, BJ. No, hands up, please.

02:00:24.000 This is so interesting.

02:00:26.000 This is so interesting.

02:00:28.000 Hard to fight him, man.

02:00:29.000 He's still in there.

02:00:30.000 But here's the thing.

02:00:32.000 A fight can change at any moment.

02:00:35.000 So right now you've got Yair walking him down, looking for that big kick, and you look like BJ's in a bit of trouble.

02:00:41.000 But let's see if BJ can recover.

02:00:43.000 You've got to remember, BJ's been around for a long fucking time.

02:00:46.000 He's fought a lot of tough guys.

02:00:47.000 Not like this.

02:00:48.000 But here's the thing.

02:00:49.000 I was going to say, here's what we haven't seen from BJ. I don't remember BJ ever coming back in a fight and winning.

02:00:56.000 Do you?

02:00:57.000 His kicks just...

02:00:58.000 I remember BJ winning.

02:01:00.000 He beat a lot of fucking guys.

02:01:01.000 But have you ever seen BJ get beat up and then come back and won?

02:01:05.000 BJ just looked at the clock.

02:01:06.000 BJ's like, holy fuck, this is not Matt Hughes.

02:01:08.000 It's the kicks, man.

02:01:09.000 The kicks and from the outside.

02:01:11.000 It's the angles, man.

02:01:12.000 Look at that front leg sidekick.

02:01:13.000 He can't get in either.

02:01:14.000 He does everything from a farther distance than BJ can hit him.

02:01:18.000 Yes, exactly.

02:01:19.000 Everything is like a...

02:01:20.000 Oh!

02:01:20.000 360 round kick!

02:01:22.000 Buck!

02:01:23.000 He's hitting him with some jack!

02:01:24.000 Oh!

02:01:24.000 Jumping front kick to the face!

02:01:26.000 I don't want to see this.

02:01:26.000 Right hand!

02:01:27.000 I don't like this.

02:01:29.000 Oh, man.

02:01:30.000 The high kick is there, man.

02:01:31.000 He's got to be careful.

02:01:32.000 Oh!

02:01:32.000 Beach it with the right hand.

02:01:33.000 He's got to be careful because he's backing up.

02:01:35.000 He's dropping that right hand.

02:01:37.000 Oh, my God.

02:01:38.000 He's getting lit up.

02:01:39.000 This is what I didn't want to see.

02:01:41.000 And he's got his back to the cage.

02:01:42.000 And he catches the kick again.

02:01:43.000 Oh, again to the arm.

02:01:44.000 And again.

02:01:46.000 Yeah, but he's taking on the forearm, dude.

02:01:47.000 He's doing it with one arm.

02:01:48.000 Oh, and then he goes under to the body.

02:01:50.000 He's going to switch kick to the head.

02:01:52.000 He's going to switch kick to the head.

02:01:54.000 Jesus Christ.

02:01:55.000 Get ready, kids.

02:01:55.000 It's ugly.

02:01:56.000 Switch kick to the head for a walk-off.

02:01:57.000 He's doing that slide in with the right leg, looking to switch with the left in the air.

02:02:02.000 Oh, inside leg kick.

02:02:03.000 He's setting up a head kick.

02:02:04.000 My, he's chewing BJ up.

02:02:06.000 Those kicks are nasty.

02:02:07.000 God damn it.

02:02:07.000 Doug, he is fucking him up.

02:02:09.000 He's so fast, young.

02:02:11.000 Oh, man.

02:02:11.000 But it's a guy that's a dynamic kicker who can also box with such an advantage.

02:02:17.000 Oh, look at that low round kick.

02:02:19.000 How dare you kick him in the ankle?

02:02:21.000 Show a little respect.

02:02:22.000 He has such an advantage in distance.

02:02:24.000 It's almost like having a reach advantage.

02:02:26.000 It's almost like being a taller fighter.

02:02:27.000 Is he kicking him with the top of his foot or with his shin?

02:02:30.000 Both.

02:02:30.000 He's mixing it up.

02:02:31.000 He's mixing it up.

02:02:32.000 He's throwing tight window kicks.

02:02:33.000 He's throwing whatever the fuck you want.

02:02:34.000 He's throwing Muay Thai style.

02:02:35.000 I've always thought that was so risky if you hit somebody's elbow with the top of your foot.

02:02:38.000 What's risky if you hit them with the shin?

02:02:40.000 Yeah.

02:02:40.000 You ever hit someone's elbow with your shin?

02:02:41.000 It's horrible.

02:02:42.000 When they check it too?

02:02:42.000 Or if they check with their knee?

02:02:44.000 Holy shit, what a round.

02:02:45.000 Big John is talking to BJ. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:02:47.000 Go to BJ's corner, man.

02:02:50.000 Look up at the air.

02:02:51.000 That ain't good.

02:02:52.000 That ain't good.

02:02:53.000 When you look up at the sky when you get kicked.

02:02:56.000 360, son.

02:02:59.000 Also, what people don't realize is when he blocks it and he has just one hand, it fucks you up.

02:03:04.000 Look at how tough BJ is to take these shots, though.

02:03:06.000 Dude, I'm telling you, BJ might have the best chin ever.

02:03:09.000 Maybe even better than Mark Hunt.

02:03:10.000 Or Roy.

02:03:11.000 Yeah, he's fucking up there when you think about the shots he's eaten.

02:03:14.000 Well, Roy's been knocked out, remember?

02:03:16.000 His last fight against Mark Hunt.

02:03:18.000 Not last, but last time he got stopped.

02:03:20.000 The walkaway uppercut.

02:03:21.000 He walkaway KO'd him.

02:03:22.000 It is nuts that he's able to take that kind of punishment.

02:03:24.000 Those are crazy shots.

02:03:26.000 Unbelievable.

02:03:28.000 Head getting rocked back.

02:03:29.000 God, BJ getting his ass whip just makes me want to eat some Taco Bell.

02:03:33.000 I like any excuse to hate yourself.

02:03:36.000 You gotta hate yourself to eat that Taco Bell.

02:03:38.000 Yeah, I do.

02:03:38.000 You want some more wine?

02:03:39.000 I never hate myself that much to have Taco Bell.

02:03:41.000 Have you ever had Chick-fil-A though?

02:03:43.000 Because you should celebrate that.

02:03:46.000 I fucking...

02:03:46.000 Celebrate Chick-fil-A or Taco Bell?

02:03:49.000 Chick-fil-A. No, fuck Taco Bell.

02:03:50.000 That shit's for the birds.

02:03:51.000 Chick-fil-A is fucking very yummy.

02:03:53.000 You know who doesn't ever eat Chick-fil-A? They're closed on Sundays, though.

02:03:55.000 You know who never eats Chick-fil-A? Here we go.

02:03:57.000 John Joseph.

02:03:58.000 John Joseph.

02:03:59.000 Oh!

02:04:00.000 Oh, he heard him!

02:04:00.000 He heard him!

02:04:01.000 He heard him.

02:04:02.000 This is it, boys.

02:04:03.000 I'm depressed.

02:04:03.000 Pour me that wine.

02:04:05.000 Oh, my God.

02:04:06.000 Oh, my God.

02:04:07.000 Big John's stepping in here.

02:04:08.000 Fucking Callan told him to keep his hands up.

02:04:10.000 BJ's still moving.

02:04:10.000 He's still moving.

02:04:11.000 He's still moving.

02:04:14.000 Goddamn!

02:04:14.000 Hey, stop the fight!

02:04:15.000 Who survives better than BJ? Stop the fight!

02:04:17.000 No, no, [...

02:04:35.000 Oh, man.

02:04:36.000 Oh, man.

02:04:36.000 Look, BJ's pissed.

02:04:37.000 BJ said I had that.

02:04:38.000 I don't know if he's pissed.

02:04:39.000 I mean, he's upset, obviously.

02:04:41.000 See, that's BJ right now.

02:04:42.000 The goat in Jurassic Park.

02:04:43.000 And Yair is the fucking philosopher.

02:04:45.000 First of all, how dare you have that as a ready?

02:04:46.000 No, he's an old goat.

02:04:49.000 Get that fucking primed!

02:04:51.000 It's true, though.

02:04:52.000 Go to that picture above it when you see the Velociraptor with the goat.

02:04:55.000 One at a time, Jamie.

02:04:57.000 Who did that?

02:04:57.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:04:58.000 Oh, my God.

02:04:59.000 God damn it.

02:05:00.000 So let's take a look at the replay, man.

02:05:03.000 Hey, BJ, let's go ahead and just go.

02:05:04.000 What do you think Greg Jackson's telling him?

02:05:05.000 That's a wrap?

02:05:07.000 Just saying, hey, you did everything you could.

02:05:10.000 You trained your hardest.

02:05:11.000 This shows you the limitations of having a boxing-only style when you're fighting a kicker.

02:05:16.000 Look at it.

02:05:16.000 It's not even that, though, Joe.

02:05:18.000 Is it?

02:05:18.000 No, I think it's that.

02:05:19.000 But look at this.

02:05:20.000 Front kick to the face and then a right hand behind it really stuns him.

02:05:23.000 It's also 2017. It shows you how advanced the UFC is now.

02:05:28.000 He kicked him in the front foot!

02:05:29.000 It was a front kick to the face, watch this, boom, and then a right hand behind it.

02:05:34.000 It's just, his range is different because he's kicking.

02:05:37.000 His ability is different.

02:05:39.000 Everything's different for him.

02:05:40.000 Everything's different.

02:05:41.000 When you're fighting and you only have boxing...

02:05:43.000 It's a terrible fight for BJ. Yeah, when you only have boxing and you're fighting a guy who can box and also is a dynamic kicker, you're in such a disadvantage.

02:05:51.000 But also doesn't play the boxing game.

02:05:53.000 He doesn't do the boxing range, which is what you're seeing in practice.

02:05:57.000 You get out there like, what the fuck is this?

02:05:59.000 Oh, it's 2017. He's also not doing a Muay Thai range.

02:06:03.000 He's doing like a sport karate range.

02:06:04.000 Yeah, but he's also mixing up, going to clinch, then doing crazy kicks and all this shit.

02:06:08.000 So good.

02:06:09.000 Hey, BJ, I haven't found in a little while.

02:06:10.000 Here's the most dynamic guy.

02:06:11.000 Oh, so there's the guy.

02:06:11.000 There's Todd Grisham.

02:06:12.000 So this is the new guy that they hired.

02:06:14.000 So this is what they hired him for, to work the desk.

02:06:16.000 Who's the girl that did it before?

02:06:17.000 Karen Bryan.

02:06:18.000 I think she still does it.

02:06:18.000 Did they say Karen hit the showers?

02:06:21.000 I don't think so.

02:06:21.000 I think she still does it.

02:06:22.000 I don't know, did they?

02:06:22.000 I think she still does it.

02:06:23.000 I think they just hired this guy as well.

02:06:25.000 Karen was great.

02:06:25.000 This guy's pretty cool because we were making fun of him, not in a mean way, but he called him.

02:06:28.000 Nah, we roast him pretty bad on the show.

02:06:30.000 Yeah, and he says to Shabby, he goes, what did he say to you?

02:06:32.000 He's got a He said, you and I have the same haircut, man.

02:06:35.000 And we were saying he looks like a guy you'd rent a car from.

02:06:37.000 He goes, hey, I heard Hertz has an opening, too, for you.

02:06:39.000 I'll ask him if I can hook you up.

02:06:41.000 He's really funny.

02:06:42.000 It was funny.

02:06:42.000 And he goes, goddammit, I love the show.

02:06:44.000 That's funny.

02:06:45.000 He's a good guy.

02:06:46.000 Well, hey, man, it's maybe one of the hardest gigs to step into at this stage of the game.

02:06:51.000 Everyone's going to hate on you, no matter what.

02:06:52.000 No matter what.

02:06:54.000 Mike Goldberg was really fucking good.

02:06:56.000 He's not replacing Mike.

02:06:57.000 That's what people don't realize.

02:06:58.000 He's not the replacement for Mike.

02:07:00.000 He's not going to be next to Joe.

02:07:02.000 Everyone thinks just because he got announced.

02:07:04.000 I think it's going to be John Anik.

02:07:06.000 I think it's going to be Anik.

02:07:07.000 John Anik's great.

02:07:07.000 I love Anik.

02:07:08.000 Yeah.

02:07:09.000 Yeah, it's weird, man.

02:07:10.000 You know, it's like whenever you change something, it's weird.

02:07:12.000 And what's really weird is that Goldberg's last show is like one of our best ever.

02:07:15.000 We were laughing, flowing together.

02:07:17.000 He's a good dude.

02:07:18.000 I've known him forever.

02:07:20.000 I mean, I've known him since 1997. Wow.

02:07:22.000 Fucking Penn& Teller.

02:07:24.000 He hasn't been doing it forever, man.

02:07:25.000 Wow.

02:07:26.000 Since 1997. Hey man, when, you know, you spend four fucking billion dollars on something, you just want to just do whatever you want.

02:07:34.000 You want to tear out the kitchen and replace the shower head and put a fucking new staircase in.

02:07:39.000 Fire all the maids.

02:07:41.000 Fire everybody.

02:07:42.000 Bring in Reebok.

02:07:42.000 Yeah, fire everybody.

02:07:44.000 All right.

02:07:44.000 I wonder if the Reebok deal sticks.

02:07:46.000 Does the Reebok deal stick during the transition?

02:07:48.000 How's that work?

02:07:49.000 I mean, they have to honor all the contracts.

02:07:51.000 I guarantee as soon as it's up, WME's going to be like...

02:07:54.000 Double birds.

02:07:56.000 Double birds.

02:07:57.000 Double birds.

02:07:58.000 Now, how many more years did they have?

02:07:59.000 Seven.

02:08:00.000 Seven.

02:08:00.000 Signed a lifetime.

02:08:01.000 No, I'm just joking.

02:08:02.000 No, I'm just joking.

02:08:03.000 I think it's up in two.

02:08:04.000 I'm pretty sure Reebok's like, get us the fuck out.

02:08:08.000 Hey, Jamie, crank the volume up on this because I guarantee you they're going to interview BJ. You have to.

02:08:13.000 This is his last fight.

02:08:14.000 It's a goddamn disservice.

02:08:15.000 And since he didn't go out cold...

02:08:18.000 I'd probably interview him too.

02:08:19.000 If they don't interview him, Mike Goldberg should jump in and do the Kanye West-Taylor Swift thing.

02:08:24.000 That'd be sick.

02:08:26.000 Let's see what happens here.

02:08:32.000 Could you have been any worse of a matchup for BJ? Who's the guy in the tie?

02:08:43.000 You need to back off Yair.

02:08:45.000 Is that his translator?

02:08:46.000 You don't have to.

02:08:47.000 He speaks perfect English.

02:08:48.000 How about we just find that fucking air piece?

02:08:50.000 He threw up on my feet once.

02:08:51.000 Yair did?

02:08:52.000 Yeah, he won a fight and then threw up on me.

02:08:55.000 He threw up on the ground.

02:08:56.000 He tried to throw up under his shirt and it landed on my feet.

02:08:59.000 You wearing your nice shoes?

02:09:00.000 Some Proud or some shit?

02:09:01.000 Or you wearing those workout shoes?

02:09:03.000 I wear some shoes that I wear that are comfortable for the UFC. They have fairly soft bottoms.

02:09:10.000 You don't give a fuck.

02:09:11.000 You don't give a fuck.

02:09:12.000 No, he wears a fanny pack.

02:09:14.000 I think you had a fanny pack on on stage the other night.

02:09:16.000 No, he didn't.

02:09:16.000 He had shit in his pocket.

02:09:17.000 No, you didn't.

02:09:18.000 The other night you had a bunch of shit in your pocket.

02:09:19.000 Not the other night, but the night before that I had a fanny pack on.

02:09:21.000 Depending on what I'm wearing.

02:09:22.000 I was like, he has a bunch of shit in his pocket.

02:09:24.000 I will never wear a fanny pack.

02:09:26.000 Never.

02:09:27.000 Oh, good for you.

02:09:27.000 I'm way too fucking...

02:09:29.000 You're way too vain.

02:09:30.000 I'm macho.

02:09:31.000 I'm vain.

02:09:31.000 Cro-Cop's not macho?

02:09:32.000 I like nice...

02:09:33.000 Cro-Cop wears one?

02:09:34.000 Chuck Norris.

02:09:35.000 Cro-Cop wears one all the time.

02:09:37.000 And John Hapman.

02:09:38.000 Guys, I'm easily influenced.

02:09:39.000 Take it easy.

02:09:40.000 And Dice Clay.

02:09:41.000 And your boy who's vegan.

02:09:43.000 And John Joseph?

02:09:44.000 But he doesn't wear it, not out of leather.

02:09:45.000 He wears no leather.

02:09:47.000 None.

02:09:48.000 He wears no leather?

02:09:50.000 Nylon, something that kills the whole planet.

02:09:51.000 What shoes does he wear?

02:09:52.000 He is a Hare Krishna, right?

02:09:53.000 Legit.

02:09:54.000 What shoes does he wear?

02:09:55.000 Oh, BJ stepped out.

02:09:56.000 He wears anything that's made of canvas, hemp.

02:09:59.000 Bro, that wasn't at the comic store.

02:10:01.000 That's at the Ice House the other night.

02:10:02.000 Look at that.

02:10:02.000 Strong fanny pack.

02:10:03.000 That's a Kuyu camo jacket.

02:10:05.000 Damn, that's snake skin, son.

02:10:06.000 No, no, no.

02:10:06.000 That's Kuyu camo.

02:10:07.000 No, that's Stingray.

02:10:07.000 I see you flashing up there.

02:10:09.000 No, this is this.

02:10:09.000 This is this.

02:10:10.000 Nah, that looks like Stingray with diamonds.

02:10:12.000 You're incorrect.

02:10:13.000 Oh, man.

02:10:14.000 Look at that.

02:10:14.000 That front kick to the face.

02:10:15.000 That makes me want to go hunting when I see that 360. It should.

02:10:19.000 That 360 round kick, man.

02:10:21.000 Goddamn.

02:10:21.000 That wasn't fun to see.

02:10:22.000 It goes to the body, too.

02:10:24.000 It was a domination.

02:10:25.000 Like a total, complete domination.

02:10:27.000 Wow.

02:10:28.000 And Yair was a strong favorite in this fight.

02:10:30.000 Yair, Max Holloway?

02:10:32.000 Although he's number 10. What's up, son?

02:10:34.000 Let's build the guy up.

02:10:36.000 That's what I said about Coach Garbrandt.

02:10:39.000 Well, someday in the future, I think that's a legit fight.

02:10:42.000 And I think that's an interesting fight.

02:10:43.000 Because Max Holloway is a bad motherfucker.

02:10:47.000 Max Holloway is a bad motherfucker.

02:10:49.000 It's a really interesting fight.

02:10:50.000 I agree with you.

02:10:53.000 Well, hey, they made Ferguson Khabib official.

02:10:56.000 Yes.

02:10:58.000 For interim title.

02:10:59.000 Yes.

02:11:00.000 Everybody getting titles.

02:11:01.000 Look at how thick that dude.

02:11:02.000 Look at that guy's head.

02:11:02.000 Every fight now, from now on, will be an interim title.

02:11:05.000 God damn it, that'd be nice.

02:11:06.000 Wait, Khabib, I'm sorry, they made what?

02:11:08.000 Khabib Ferguson, official.

02:11:10.000 Yeah, but they made it as an interim title, which I don't understand.

02:11:12.000 Wow.

02:11:13.000 Super confusing.

02:11:14.000 It's very confusing.

02:11:15.000 Because Conor just won the title.

02:11:17.000 See, I think this is more of a sign that Conor's going to fight Floyd next.

02:11:21.000 Because he's probably talking to Dana like, you ain't seen me anytime soon, son.

02:11:24.000 Or it's more of a sign that they wanted to have a pay-per-view card that was stacked with championship fights.

02:11:32.000 But if you keep doing interim titles, people are like, alright, we get it.

02:11:35.000 Everyone's a fucking well champion.

02:11:36.000 Well, you know that Conor's about to have a baby.

02:11:38.000 His wife's about to have a baby.

02:11:39.000 Correct.

02:11:39.000 So that's going to be...

02:11:41.000 Lots of guys fight with babies, though.

02:11:42.000 Well, maybe he's not.

02:11:43.000 I mean, he's richer than lots of guys.

02:11:46.000 That's true.

02:11:47.000 Maybe he's like, listen, I don't want to go through training camp right now.

02:11:49.000 I want to experience this.

02:11:49.000 That's a legit point.

02:11:50.000 My first kid.

02:11:50.000 Anyone who had a baby, don't go through training camp.

02:11:52.000 Yeah.

02:11:53.000 I mean...

02:11:53.000 It's a fucking beast.

02:11:55.000 Man, how badass is Yair Rodriguez?

02:11:58.000 Unbelievable.

02:11:58.000 That's the coming out party, folks.

02:12:00.000 BJ's head on his back.

02:12:01.000 Is it, though, or is it a product of BJ being basically a heavy bag in there?

02:12:04.000 And I love BJ. It's that, but it's also...

02:12:07.000 Look, I think BJ, when he was 10 years younger, it would have been a tougher fight for Yair, for sure.

02:12:12.000 Oh.

02:12:12.000 10 years ago, BJ? For sure.

02:12:14.000 Way tougher fight.

02:12:14.000 It's still a different style.

02:12:17.000 Who fucking knows?

02:12:18.000 This is the problem, though, is that it's not just a matter of BJ being a legend, BJ being an all-time great, two-division world champion, bad motherfucker without a doubt.

02:12:26.000 But his style is a boxing-based attack and then a vicious ground-and-pound and vicious top-game submission game.

02:12:34.000 BJ is not a guy who submits guys off of his back, and BJ is not necessarily a guy who kicks that much.

02:12:41.000 So Yair, who's an outstanding kicker, one of the best kickers...

02:12:45.000 He has just this huge advantage.

02:12:47.000 You know what it's like.

02:12:48.000 If you used to do Taekwondo, if you had a guy who said, and you boxed a little bit, if you had a guy that said, hey, let's spar, you can kick, and I'll just box.

02:12:57.000 You'd be like, well, good luck with all that.

02:12:59.000 Can I kick your legs?

02:13:00.000 And he'd be like, yeah.

02:13:01.000 I'd be like, oh, well, you're going to have a terrible afternoon.

02:13:04.000 Yeah, terrible.

02:13:04.000 Game over.

02:13:05.000 Yeah, you're fucked.

02:13:06.000 Didn't BJ fight...

02:13:07.000 Am I crazier?

02:13:09.000 Did he fight...

02:13:10.000 Lioto Machida.

02:13:11.000 As a heavyweight.

02:13:11.000 That's so crazy!

02:13:12.000 As a heavyweight.

02:13:13.000 It's called The Rock.

02:13:14.000 The Rock fight.

02:13:15.000 Rumble on the Rock.

02:13:16.000 Rumble on the Rock in Hawaii.

02:13:17.000 No.

02:13:18.000 No.

02:13:18.000 He fought Lioto in Japan.

02:13:21.000 In Rumble on the Rock, he fought Carlos...

02:13:23.000 No, he didn't fight Carlos Condit.

02:13:24.000 I thought he fought Lioto in Rumble on the Rock.

02:13:26.000 Who did he fight in Rumble on the Rock?

02:13:27.000 He fought Gomi.

02:13:29.000 He beat the fuck out of Gomi.

02:13:31.000 Remember he brought Gomi over to Rumble on the Rock?

02:13:33.000 Beat the shit out of him.

02:13:34.000 And strangled him.

02:13:36.000 He fought somebody else.

02:13:38.000 I think he fought in, I want to say K1. Because he fought Dwayne Ludwig in K1 as well.

02:13:44.000 Yeah, I thought he fought Liotto in Rumble of the Rock.

02:13:47.000 That's crazy.

02:13:48.000 You might be right.

02:13:49.000 I don't know.

02:13:50.000 Wikipedia that, Jamie.

02:13:50.000 What a powerful fucking tie and pocket handkerchief for Tyron Woodley.

02:13:56.000 They announced him versus Wonderboy, huh?

02:13:57.000 I know.

02:13:58.000 I like it.

02:13:58.000 Him versus Wonderboy, too.

02:13:59.000 When it goes to a draw, you gotta fucking do that.

02:14:01.000 I kind of feel like you have to.

02:14:03.000 You have to.

02:14:03.000 Unless...

02:14:05.000 George St. Pierre comes out of retirement.

02:14:06.000 Then you make an exception.

02:14:08.000 But since George...

02:14:08.000 Oh, look at this.

02:14:09.000 Just as horrible to watch, man.

02:14:10.000 He's just taking that left kick to the head.

02:14:12.000 Oh, the wheel kick.

02:14:14.000 I mean, this is like right away, early in the fight.

02:14:16.000 He's getting staggered.

02:14:16.000 He's getting his legs kicked out.

02:14:18.000 I feel like those WME boys made this matchup.

02:14:20.000 Oh, man.

02:14:20.000 That 360 round kick to the neck.

02:14:22.000 Oh, my God.

02:14:23.000 Jumping front kick behind it.

02:14:24.000 I can't watch that shit.

02:14:25.000 Oh, my God.

02:14:26.000 I'll tell you what.

02:14:27.000 Yair Rodriguez versus Brian Ortega is a fun one.

02:14:30.000 Look, Yair Rodriguez versus anyone is a front one.

02:14:32.000 I mean, the kid's 24 years old.

02:14:34.000 Who the fuck knows what happens with Yair?

02:14:35.000 Yair might not even stay at 45. He might be stepping up to 55 in the next few years.

02:14:39.000 He might be the Mexican Conor McGregor.

02:14:41.000 He might be the motherfucker.

02:14:42.000 Look at that.

02:14:44.000 Boom!

02:14:45.000 Yeah, Ortega's 45. He's ranked ahead of Yair.

02:14:48.000 He's number nine.

02:14:49.000 Dude, when you say BJ Penn, get rocked like that, you see his legs give out.

02:14:53.000 Click on that K1 Heroes for me.

02:14:55.000 Where's that at?

02:14:57.000 Longest active win streak in the featherweight division, Max Holloway.

02:15:00.000 Japan, Joe.

02:15:01.000 You're right.

02:15:02.000 Yeah.

02:15:02.000 I think it was K-1, right?

02:15:03.000 Yeah.

02:15:04.000 And before that, it was Rumble on the Rocks.

02:15:07.000 And who did he fight in Rumble on the Rocks?

02:15:09.000 Back up a little bit there.

02:15:10.000 UFC, go down, go down.

02:15:12.000 It's way down.

02:15:13.000 Keep going.

02:15:14.000 Takanori Gomi.

02:15:15.000 He fought Takanori Gomi.

02:15:17.000 Did he fight someone else in Rumble on the Rock, too?

02:15:20.000 Gracie.

02:15:20.000 Rodrigo Gracie.

02:15:21.000 Oh, Rodrigo Gracie.

02:15:23.000 That's right.

02:15:23.000 And that was a decision, right?

02:15:25.000 That was kind of a boring fight, if I remember correctly.

02:15:28.000 Powerful Larry Landless referee.

02:15:29.000 Having seen what Conor did to Eddie Alvarez, what is your take on Alvarez, I mean, Conor, Khabib?

02:15:36.000 It doesn't matter.

02:15:38.000 He has to fight Tony.

02:15:39.000 He's got to fight Tony.

02:15:40.000 You can't just dismiss that.

02:15:42.000 No, you don't.

02:15:42.000 That's not one like...

02:15:43.000 Phil Khabib gots this.

02:15:45.000 That's a tough fucking fight.

02:15:46.000 You're right.

02:15:46.000 I forgot about that.

02:15:47.000 That's very true.

02:15:48.000 And you can't ever use MMA math.

02:15:49.000 Here's why.

02:15:50.000 Ronda Rousey submits Kat Zingano in 14 seconds.

02:15:54.000 Kat Zingano stops Amanda Nunes in the third round.

02:15:58.000 Amanda Nunes destroys Ronda Rousey in 48 seconds.

02:16:00.000 MMA math never ever works.

02:16:02.000 It doesn't work.

02:16:03.000 You can't base it off that.

02:16:04.000 Matchup styles.

02:16:05.000 It's one-on-one.

02:16:06.000 It's like when you're using that translator thing that I told you about and you read things incorrectly.

02:16:10.000 But Ferguson is That's so unorthodox.

02:16:12.000 That's boss logic, right?

02:16:14.000 That motherfucker is nasty.

02:16:15.000 He's such a badass.

02:16:16.000 Oh, what a great picture, man.

02:16:17.000 That guy is awesome.

02:16:18.000 He's so fucking good, man.

02:16:19.000 He's the best in the game.

02:16:20.000 Powerful boss logic.

02:16:21.000 I know.

02:16:21.000 Getting some shout outs.

02:16:22.000 Shout out to that guy.

02:16:23.000 Yeah, man.

02:16:24.000 I like these artists, man.

02:16:25.000 John Jones versus Dylan Dennis is interesting because Dylan Dennis is way smaller than John Jones.

02:16:30.000 Oh, John's like a rampage him.

02:16:32.000 Or Rona style.

02:16:33.000 If that really does happen.

02:16:34.000 But I think that's like a suggestion more than a signed fight.

02:16:37.000 Does John Jones have a signed grappling match?

02:16:40.000 Oh, no, no, no.

02:16:40.000 You know what, Jamie?

02:16:41.000 No, no, no.

02:16:41.000 Dana's joking around says...

02:16:43.000 Excuse me?

02:16:43.000 That was a...

02:16:44.000 Dana's thing was a fan...

02:16:45.000 Oh, it was fan-made by BossLogic, though.

02:16:47.000 Wasn't it made by BossLogic?

02:16:48.000 Yeah, but people were just talking about that potential matchup online.

02:16:51.000 Dylan Dennis said he doesn't understand I would play with him.

02:16:54.000 What?

02:16:54.000 Dylan Dennis said that?

02:16:56.000 Yeah.

02:16:56.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:16:57.000 Did you see what Jon Jones said?

02:16:58.000 Kid's kind of a douchebag.

02:17:00.000 He said that about Dennis?

02:17:01.000 It looks like it.

02:17:01.000 There you go.

02:17:02.000 A douchebag.

02:17:03.000 Did you see what Jon Jones did to Dan Henderson in that grappling match?

02:17:06.000 Yeah, listen.

02:17:07.000 Dan Henderson's a far cry from...

02:17:09.000 Oh, very very different.

02:17:10.000 He's also 60. Dylan Dennis is pretty elite.

02:17:13.000 And there for a paycheck.

02:17:14.000 He's pretty elite.

02:17:14.000 But Gary Tonin worked him.

02:17:16.000 You ever see the Gary Tonin-Dylan Dennis match?

02:17:18.000 Yes.

02:17:19.000 You know, Gary Tonin's one of the best in the world.

02:17:21.000 If not the best.

02:17:23.000 He's up there.

02:17:24.000 He's up there.

02:17:24.000 He's in like the handful of very best guys in the world right now.

02:17:29.000 Crone Gracie, him, you know, Eddie.

02:17:32.000 There's a few guys.

02:17:33.000 John Jones and him, those guys, both of them, have really revolutionized the ground game with the leg lock attack, like we were talking about earlier, the John Danner.

02:17:43.000 Look at that transition again by Held.

02:17:46.000 Dylan Danner said he would submit John Jones in under eight minutes.

02:17:50.000 Jesus, he doesn't understand how much bigger John is.

02:17:53.000 John would do the shop shutdown and crush his face in.

02:17:56.000 He wouldn't have a chance.

02:17:58.000 I just used myself there.

02:18:00.000 He would not have a chance to get a hold of his ankles or anything.

02:18:04.000 You gotta be real careful talking shit to John.

02:18:07.000 To John?

02:18:08.000 Yeah.

02:18:08.000 Dude, he will run into a bitch breaker on Runaway and then fuck you up.

02:18:12.000 It's John Jones, son.

02:18:14.000 He's so much bigger.

02:18:15.000 The baddest man on the planet.

02:18:17.000 He's about 238 when he fought Henderson in a grappling match.

02:18:21.000 He's 238. He submitted Vitor Belfort.

02:18:24.000 With a broken arm.

02:18:26.000 Yes.

02:18:26.000 He had his elbow capsule popped.

02:18:28.000 Dude.

02:18:29.000 In an arm barge the round before.

02:18:30.000 He will take dick pills all night, stay up to 6 a.m., and fuck your world up.

02:18:35.000 It's Jon Jones, man.

02:18:38.000 I don't think he understands how good Jon is on the ground.

02:18:40.000 No.

02:18:41.000 And I don't think he understands how strong Jon is.

02:18:43.000 He doesn't.

02:18:43.000 I think Jon will get a hold of him.

02:18:44.000 He'll be like, you ever see one of those praying mantis pick things up?

02:18:48.000 You're like, how the fuck is that?

02:18:50.000 He cradled.

02:18:51.000 He cradled.

02:18:52.000 That'd be like a fruit fly.

02:18:53.000 Just what the fuck?

02:18:54.000 Ryan Bader.

02:18:54.000 Have you ever seen a praying mantis kill a hummingbird?

02:18:57.000 No.

02:18:57.000 You can't believe it.

02:18:58.000 They kill hummingbirds.

02:18:59.000 Oh, shut your mouth.

02:19:01.000 Why do you think I would say that unless I knew?

02:19:02.000 I gotta see that.

02:19:02.000 Bring it up.

02:19:03.000 See, unlike you.

02:19:04.000 Does he rip its face off?

02:19:04.000 I don't talk about things unless I'm absolutely sure.

02:19:07.000 Whatever, dude.

02:19:08.000 Whatever.

02:19:08.000 Pull up.

02:19:09.000 I was saying notes for drama.

02:19:12.000 Oh, the praying mantis is hanging out right now?

02:19:14.000 Praying mantis kills him.

02:19:15.000 Oh my god!

02:19:17.000 Pull that back again.

02:19:18.000 Pull that back again.

02:19:18.000 It doesn't show the kill, it just shows them hanging out.

02:19:21.000 Oh, really?

02:19:21.000 Oh, they caught it.

02:19:22.000 But there are ones that show the kill.

02:19:24.000 For sure show the kill, Jimmy.

02:19:27.000 Watch this.

02:19:28.000 Oh, look at him hanging out.

02:19:29.000 Right there.

02:19:30.000 Go ahead and sip on in, buddy.

02:19:31.000 Watch this.

02:19:32.000 The hummingbird, he just waits to the right time.

02:19:37.000 It's so much smaller than a hummingbird, too, which is really fucked up about insects.

02:19:41.000 With their exoskeleton, it's so scary.

02:19:44.000 Like, look at those little skinny arms.

02:19:45.000 You're like, well, how's that skinny arm gonna fuck up a bird?

02:19:47.000 Well.

02:19:48.000 Very well.

02:19:49.000 You ever seen any pull-ups I can do?

02:19:51.000 Um...

02:19:51.000 Yeah, but you're pulling up 18 pounds.

02:19:53.000 Nah, my life is very big.

02:19:54.000 This thing's catching a hummingbird.

02:19:56.000 So is this hummingbird trying to fuck with the praying mantis?

02:19:58.000 No, he's trying to get some nectar.

02:19:59.000 He doesn't even know the praying mantis is there.

02:20:01.000 Oh, it knows it's there.

02:20:01.000 Oh, it knows, sir.

02:20:03.000 They're very aware that the threat that a praying mantis causes.

02:20:06.000 Yeah.

02:20:06.000 Well, Jamie will find one.

02:20:08.000 But there's a ton.

02:20:10.000 If I don't see a death of a hummingbird, I'm a freak.

02:20:12.000 They hang out in front of hummingbird feeders.

02:20:13.000 They sit on hummingbird feeders.

02:20:15.000 Snipers.

02:20:16.000 That's smart.

02:20:16.000 Well, the hummingbirds are too fucking stupid.

02:20:18.000 If they don't move, the hummingbirds don't see them.

02:20:21.000 Because a lot of these animals that are prey animals, like deer in particular, their vision is what's called edge detection vision.

02:20:28.000 They see movement.

02:20:30.000 They don't really see things that well.

02:20:31.000 But they see movement.

02:20:33.000 That's why, have you seen that ASAT pattern, A-S-A-T pattern for camo that First Light has?

02:20:38.000 One of the reasons why this First Light, F-I-R-S-T-L-I-T-E. You looked at me like I was a veteran hunter or some shit.

02:20:44.000 First Light's one of the reasons why their pattern is so effective is like a zebra's pattern.

02:20:48.000 Although that is disputed though.

02:20:49.000 Like a zebra pattern, they think it's camouflage.

02:20:51.000 I always wonder why it's white and black.

02:20:53.000 Well, this is why.

02:20:54.000 The idea is that the lines break up the pattern of the body and it confuses predators when they're in...

02:21:01.000 Is it attacking a cat?

02:21:03.000 Dude, a praying mantis eats a cat?

02:21:06.000 It's my fucking hero.

02:21:08.000 It's defending itself.

02:21:09.000 They're so gangster, man.

02:21:11.000 Look at it.

02:21:11.000 It's just going after the cat.

02:21:13.000 The cat's like, what the fuck?

02:21:14.000 Jesus!

02:21:15.000 Is it stuck on the cat?

02:21:16.000 Yeah, it grabbed it and hung onto it and bit the fuck out of it.

02:21:18.000 I'll let mine see it kill this cat.

02:21:20.000 No, it's not going to happen.

02:21:21.000 Man, how about Coyote Peterson talking about centipedes and what that venom does?

02:21:24.000 The one guy who's been bit by everything, he said, look, tarantula hawk, bullet ant, don't do the centipede.

02:21:30.000 Look at me.

02:21:30.000 What kind of centipede?

02:21:30.000 Don't do it.

02:21:31.000 It's the one actually in Arizona.

02:21:33.000 Big ass red one with all the legs.

02:21:35.000 He said, don't let it bite you.

02:21:36.000 Why?

02:21:37.000 What does it do?

02:21:37.000 Those kill birds, too.

02:21:39.000 No, he said the hardest bite's the gila monster.

02:21:42.000 Well, not the most painful, because it was a toxin that you have to...

02:21:44.000 Was this a car gets attacked by praying mantis?

02:21:47.000 Goddamn, they eat cars!

02:21:49.000 Dude, they're so ferocious.

02:21:50.000 We're so lucky they're little.

02:21:52.000 Yep.

02:21:52.000 I put up a post today of these ants dragging away this worm.

02:21:56.000 There's 10,000 trillion ants in the world, and they represent approximately the same biomass as all the humans.

02:22:03.000 There's 7 billion people in the world, and there's 10 trillion ants.

02:22:07.000 10,000 trillion ants?

02:22:09.000 I love an ant, man.

02:22:09.000 Oh, here it goes.

02:22:10.000 Look at this.

02:22:10.000 See, this is like a common tactic that praying mantis do.

02:22:14.000 Look at that, bitch!

02:22:16.000 Oh!

02:22:17.000 Goddamn, grab him by the face!

02:22:18.000 Dude!

02:22:19.000 But dude, how strong are those little fuckers?

02:22:21.000 Dude, he closed his beak like, get over here, bitch!

02:22:23.000 He just clamped his fucking Muay Thai clinch on that hummingbird's head.

02:22:28.000 Who just pecked it out?

02:22:29.000 Oh, what kind of dick let him go?

02:22:31.000 Who did that?

02:22:32.000 Oh, some fuck with the gloves on who's jacking off the hummingbirds every morning.

02:22:35.000 Oh, a person.

02:22:36.000 Look at this.

02:22:36.000 Look how fast that thing was.

02:22:38.000 Why did someone film this and then set that hummingbird free?

02:22:42.000 You fucking pussy.

02:22:43.000 This is nature, you bitch.

02:22:43.000 Why are you interfering with the natural order of things?

02:22:46.000 Yeah, he probably hurt the praying mantis when he did that shit, too.

02:22:48.000 Probably.

02:22:48.000 Well, no, the praying mantis is starving now and probably dies.

02:22:51.000 Yeah, look at this.

02:22:51.000 That takes a lot of time.

02:22:52.000 He's got it clamped down.

02:22:53.000 I mean, this is an awesome catch.

02:22:54.000 You've got to let that play out.

02:22:55.000 God, you know how hard that is for the praying mantis to get ahold of a fucking hummingbird?

02:22:59.000 Look at this.

02:22:59.000 This guy got in there and separates it.

02:23:01.000 Oh, we need to find that guy and fucking piss on him.

02:23:04.000 You know what that's like?

02:23:05.000 That's like when your boy's getting his ass kicked and you jump in and start throwing kicks to the head.

02:23:09.000 It really is.

02:23:09.000 And the guy's on top.

02:23:10.000 It's dirty.

02:23:11.000 He's got your boy.

02:23:11.000 It's dirty.

02:23:14.000 It's the ultimate cock block.

02:23:16.000 God damn it.

02:23:17.000 But isn't it crazy that praying mantis wait on these goddamn feeders?

02:23:20.000 I had no idea.

02:23:21.000 Here's another one.

02:23:21.000 I just thought they looked gangster.

02:23:22.000 He's just sitting there in his hummingbird feeder.

02:23:24.000 Hey, don't they have sex and then rip the other one's heads off?

02:23:27.000 Do the humming...

02:23:28.000 Yeah, a praying mantis?

02:23:29.000 Yeah.

02:23:29.000 The female rips the male's head off.

02:23:31.000 Look at that, bitch!

02:23:31.000 Oh, no!

02:23:32.000 Watch how he gets them to this.

02:23:34.000 Hold up.

02:23:34.000 It's so crazy how they're so much smaller than these hummingbirds.

02:23:38.000 Oh, he's getting him.

02:23:39.000 He just landed on them.

02:23:39.000 No, no, no.

02:23:40.000 He does that once, but watch the second time.

02:23:42.000 The hummingbird comes close, and he's like, nah, not today, son.

02:23:48.000 He said, yeah, try that again, bitch.

02:23:49.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:23:50.000 Watch.

02:23:51.000 He gets close to him.

02:23:52.000 So they know that the praying mantis is a threat.

02:23:55.000 So the praying mantis is kind of laying low.

02:23:58.000 Come on, give me this up.

02:24:00.000 He's playing freeze tag.

02:24:01.000 He's playing freeze tag.

02:24:02.000 Yeah.

02:24:03.000 Look, he comes back in.

02:24:04.000 He's like, well, I took care of that problem.

02:24:06.000 Oh, I killed him.

02:24:08.000 Don't take your eyes off.

02:24:09.000 Pay attention.

02:24:10.000 Be careful of that.

02:24:13.000 Ass first, son.

02:24:14.000 Eat that ass.

02:24:15.000 Look how he hangs on and just takes him over the edge.

02:24:19.000 What a creepy animal.

02:24:20.000 Ooh, first is a spider?

02:24:22.000 That's a black widow.

02:24:23.000 Hold on.

02:24:24.000 Is that a black widow and a praying mantis going to war?

02:24:26.000 Who filmed this?

02:24:27.000 Full screen, please.

02:24:28.000 Yes, please.

02:24:30.000 Look at that fucking monster.

02:24:31.000 Look at what a praying mantis looks like.

02:24:33.000 Look at this.

02:24:34.000 That thing's a badass, dude.

02:24:35.000 Don't fuck around.

02:24:36.000 I've told you that ten times.

02:24:37.000 Ooh, but he's got to be careful.

02:24:38.000 Look at the black widow scrapping.

02:24:40.000 They've got to be careful there.

02:24:41.000 Just burst his abdomen.

02:24:42.000 But here's the thing.

02:24:43.000 A black widow is not a fucking weak animal either.

02:24:46.000 Yeah, it is.

02:24:46.000 Burst his fucking abdomen.

02:24:48.000 Yeah, it is.

02:24:48.000 Pop his abdomen.

02:24:49.000 It's a fucking bone.

02:24:50.000 One of them might have a good Muay Thai clinch, but the other one has venom.

02:24:54.000 Yeah, it's like B-J-E-I over here.

02:24:56.000 If you get bit by a black widow, you're fucked.

02:24:58.000 Imagine if a praying mantis does.

02:24:59.000 Look at this.

02:25:00.000 Game over.

02:25:01.000 Sadistic fuck with this camera.

02:25:02.000 Oh, first of all, this sadistic fuck set this up like a psycho.

02:25:06.000 This is a fight.

02:25:07.000 He set it up like a psycho.

02:25:09.000 100%.

02:25:09.000 I'm trying to see it in their natural habitat.

02:25:13.000 What's this?

02:25:13.000 Oh, that's a hissing cockroach.

02:25:15.000 What happened to the fucking praying mantis?

02:25:17.000 This is like the guys waiting on deck.

02:25:19.000 Yeah, it's tag team.

02:25:20.000 Let's see the fucking prank.

02:25:21.000 Oh, the spider's like, I'm out of here, yo.

02:25:23.000 Bug fights.

02:25:23.000 The spider's trying to climb the wall.

02:25:25.000 Let's see if they let him.

02:25:26.000 They might have greased up the wall with Vaseline.

02:25:28.000 Oh, that's dirty.

02:25:29.000 Well, that's what I would do.

02:25:30.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:25:31.000 If I wanted to have a fight to the death.

02:25:32.000 That Black Widow wants no part of that prank.

02:25:33.000 I would have KY-jellied the entire wall.

02:25:36.000 I'd be like, bitch, this is going down.

02:25:37.000 You ain't going nowhere.

02:25:38.000 I have YouTube hits to get.

02:25:40.000 You're forced to fight, sir.

02:25:41.000 When did you get, remember your piranhas?

02:25:43.000 Well, I'm going to step on everybody.

02:25:44.000 Joe had all these piranhas, and he had a goldfish.

02:25:47.000 He had his goldfish in death row.

02:25:48.000 I used to feed goldfish.

02:25:50.000 I had a goldfish tank that was right next to the piranha tank, and I would scoop goldfish out of the goldfish tank and drop them into the piranha tank.

02:25:56.000 The piranha would fuck them up.

02:26:01.000 Shred them.

02:26:01.000 Yeah, if you wait a couple of days.

02:26:03.000 Just flakes.

02:26:03.000 But here's the thing.

02:26:04.000 You can't wait.

02:26:04.000 You got to wait two days, not four.

02:26:06.000 They die in four?

02:26:07.000 No, no, no.

02:26:07.000 They eat each other.

02:26:08.000 The piranhas eat each other?

02:26:09.000 Oh, yes, they do.

02:26:10.000 Yes, they do.

02:26:11.000 So you got to feed them every two?

02:26:12.000 Well, I don't remember the exact days because this is a long-ass time ago that I had them.

02:26:16.000 Before I realized it was illegal.

02:26:18.000 It's illegal?

02:26:19.000 I don't know.

02:26:21.000 I mean, this is all theoretical.

02:26:22.000 I don't even know if I really had them.

02:26:25.000 I don't think so, man.

02:26:26.000 You know what's really actually way better than piranhas, that's totally legal, is barracudas.

02:26:31.000 What the fuck do you do with a barracuda?

02:26:33.000 Oh, dude, they have little barracudas, and people feed them fish.

02:26:36.000 And barracudas are ferocious little motherfuckers.

02:26:39.000 They're so mean.

02:26:39.000 Yeah, and here's the thing about them.

02:26:41.000 Do you know what island dwarfism is?

02:26:43.000 It's like if you have an elephant that lives on an island, there'll be really small elephants.

02:26:47.000 It's really interesting.

02:26:48.000 No reason to get huge.

02:26:49.000 But lizards, on the other hand, grow giant on islands.

02:26:52.000 That's why Komodo dragons are so big.

02:26:54.000 Komodo dragons are the largest reptiles.

02:26:56.000 Or the largest lizards?

02:26:57.000 Yeah, the largest lizards.

02:26:58.000 Crocodiles are the largest reptiles, right?

02:27:00.000 I always fuck that up.

02:27:01.000 But when they take these barracudas and they put them in a smallish, like a 500 gallon plus saltwater tank, they don't get that big.

02:27:14.000 But they stay ferocious.

02:27:16.000 They stay small.

02:27:16.000 They're mean motherfuckers.

02:27:18.000 Yeah, see, look at this guy's got barracudas.

02:27:20.000 I like when they're all big and shit.

02:27:22.000 Incorrect.

02:27:22.000 Watch when these motherfuckers decide to feed.

02:27:24.000 I'd slap the shit out of that barracuda.

02:27:26.000 Are they feeding?

02:27:27.000 Yeah, they're eating minnows or something.

02:27:28.000 They're gonna jack these minnows.

02:27:31.000 There's a bunch of cool fucking, like, cichlits.

02:27:33.000 Oh, here he goes.

02:27:34.000 He's moving in.

02:27:35.000 Dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-boom!

02:27:36.000 Look at that speed he picks up.

02:27:38.000 How quickly he just jumps on that minnow and just jacks.

02:27:40.000 I heard they're mean as fuck in the ocean.

02:27:42.000 Barracudas, you better watch out.

02:27:44.000 They'll bite your dick.

02:27:45.000 Yeah.

02:27:45.000 Look, he just ate that minnow.

02:27:47.000 I wonder if those minnows are freshwater minnows or saltwater minnows.

02:27:49.000 Well, Barracuda has saltwater.

02:27:51.000 Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

02:27:52.000 Do you think they threw some freshwater minnows in it?

02:27:54.000 Like, deal with it, bitch.

02:27:55.000 So they're super lazy?

02:27:56.000 Well, they're super fucked.

02:27:57.000 Like, you're not gonna live.

02:27:59.000 Can't breathe, huh?

02:28:00.000 Ooh, look how quickly they jack them.

02:28:01.000 Goddamn, they're fast.

02:28:02.000 Goddamn, they jack them so fast.

02:28:04.000 Did you say all muscle?

02:28:05.000 Never seen a fat fish, sir?

02:28:06.000 I think a dolphin swims 40 miles an hour through the water.

02:28:09.000 Wait a minute, you've never seen a fat fish?

02:28:10.000 You ever ordered Toro?

02:28:11.000 Toro is fatty tuna.

02:28:13.000 Yeah, but you ever seen them in the water?

02:28:14.000 They don't look out of shape.

02:28:15.000 They're fat as fuck, bro.

02:28:16.000 Nah, it's like they got Spanx on underwater.

02:28:18.000 No, dude, they have flip-flops on, they fucking lounge chairs.

02:28:23.000 Beer in there.

02:28:26.000 Eating cake and ice cream.

02:28:27.000 I love me some fatty torah.

02:28:28.000 I'm just saying, you look at them, they look pretty fucking in shape in the water.

02:28:31.000 That makes me want to eat torah right now.

02:28:32.000 It's not like, oh, that's an out of shape fish.

02:28:34.000 Yeah, it's a fat fuck fish.

02:28:35.000 Oh, come on!

02:28:36.000 That fish is slender shit.

02:28:39.000 That fish is eating Twinkies.

02:28:40.000 Eating Twinkies, lazy, waiting for government housing.

02:28:44.000 Look at that.

02:28:45.000 That's a fat fucking tuna.

02:28:47.000 That's a nice looking tuna.

02:28:48.000 Do you ever catch tuna?

02:28:50.000 Me?

02:28:50.000 Yeah.

02:28:51.000 You ever catch fish?

02:28:52.000 No.

02:28:52.000 I used to when I was young.

02:28:53.000 I used to fish all the time.

02:28:54.000 Born and raised in Denver, son.

02:28:56.000 We caught tuna in Hawaii.

02:28:57.000 And then, what kind of tuna?

02:29:00.000 Skipjack tuna?

02:29:01.000 Yeah.

02:29:01.000 And then brought it back to the hotel.

02:29:04.000 And the chef at the hotel cooked him up.

02:29:07.000 How fresh was that?

02:29:08.000 Oh my god, it was so good.

02:29:10.000 We ate sashimi from it.

02:29:11.000 I want to go there right now.

02:29:13.000 So good.

02:29:13.000 Why don't we go three and let's get a time share in Ohio?

02:29:14.000 Aw, you guys!

02:29:16.000 Come on!

02:29:17.000 Hey, and bring your vegan friend!

02:29:19.000 I got a buddy of mine.

02:29:20.000 Yeah, that guy who's your best friend.

02:29:22.000 I had a buddy of mine who bought a house.

02:29:24.000 He bought a vacation house, and then he said, if I had to do it over again, I wouldn't do it over again.

02:29:27.000 He goes, just get a fucking Airbnb.

02:29:29.000 He goes, you can rent a dope house.

02:29:31.000 Whenever you want.

02:29:32.000 He goes, if you have a house out there, you feel, like, obligated to go there.

02:29:35.000 He goes, the toilet breaks, you gotta hire somebody, the sprinkler fucks up, you gotta hire somebody.

02:29:41.000 Or you own it, and then you Airbnb that bitch out and make bank.

02:29:44.000 Yeah, but then you gotta deal with a bunch of people farting in your house.

02:29:48.000 A bunch of people jacking off in your fucking garbage chute.

02:29:50.000 Well, I'm not renting out the booger-nosed kids.

02:29:52.000 They're taking dumps.

02:29:53.000 High-class only.

02:29:54.000 Toilet girls.

02:29:54.000 What if they just lean their asshole right over your kitchen sink and just unload your shit?

02:29:58.000 You're fired.

02:29:58.000 No, and then clean it.

02:30:00.000 You don't even know.

02:30:01.000 Like, you're in there.

02:30:01.000 They use, like, the garbage disposal?

02:30:02.000 You're in there.

02:30:02.000 Boy, I'm so glad we're making additional income here.

02:30:05.000 You know what?

02:30:05.000 You're fucking...

02:30:07.000 So ridiculous.

02:30:10.000 Meanwhile, they're fucking bukkake-ing my garbage.

02:30:15.000 Brian, when you interrupt someone, you're basically saying, I'm more important than you.

02:30:18.000 No, I was going to tell you, based on that, I'm shitting in a sink.

02:30:22.000 There was a gym at Marina del Reyes.

02:30:25.000 Was John Joseph there?

02:30:26.000 Nope, nope, nope.

02:30:27.000 Why was he there?

02:30:28.000 He's your best friend.

02:30:29.000 Yes, in Marina Del Rey.

02:30:30.000 Remember that one?

02:30:30.000 That's where my place is, my condo is.

02:30:32.000 There was a guy who used to shit in...

02:30:34.000 No, it was right off of Via Marina.

02:30:36.000 So this guy used to shit in the shower.

02:30:39.000 And he would take a shit in the shower.

02:30:40.000 And they knew it was him, but because they can't have cameras in the shower...

02:30:44.000 Well, where is he?

02:30:45.000 In a house?

02:30:45.000 In the gym.

02:30:46.000 Oh, in a gym.

02:30:47.000 This is Marina City, son.

02:30:49.000 Marina City Club.

02:30:51.000 How'd they know?

02:30:52.000 And he would look at the guy, he would look at the main guy, who was always trying to catch him and freaking out, and he would go, have a good day.

02:31:01.000 And wink, apparently.

02:31:03.000 Now would he shit a log?

02:31:05.000 Did he ask him if he shit in the sink?

02:31:09.000 Oh, the guy would lose his mind, but they could never prove it, right?

02:31:12.000 So why would he think that that guy did it?

02:31:15.000 Well, because they 100% knew that the guy did it, because every time he'd be in there, he would disappear, and they started putting two and two together.

02:31:22.000 He would leave a log.

02:31:23.000 And not only that, he would leave a huge log, but more importantly, he would go, have a nice day.

02:31:31.000 He would wink.

02:31:32.000 Every time he did it.

02:31:33.000 Now you can't prove that, but he got off on the fact, and at one point, the main guy, who was the manager of the gym, they had to hold him back.

02:31:41.000 Lou Perotum, the guy I used to work out with, told me this story.

02:31:43.000 They had to hold him back because he just was like, I'm fucking, I don't care if he's a customer, I'm going to beat the shit out of him.

02:31:49.000 Somebody had to clean up.

02:31:50.000 He got off on taking a shit.

02:31:52.000 In that shower.

02:31:53.000 It's a weird move.

02:31:54.000 I've never seen that.

02:31:55.000 Oh my god.

02:31:56.000 I've never seen anyone take a shoot.

02:31:57.000 There are a lot of people that like to do weird shit like that.

02:31:59.000 Leave their mark somewhere and be like, see ya.

02:32:02.000 Yeah, that's like borderline fucking serial killer behavior.

02:32:05.000 Oh yeah.

02:32:06.000 You get real close.

02:32:07.000 Then you start torturing cats.

02:32:09.000 Yes.

02:32:09.000 Well, it's the idea.

02:32:11.000 I might get caught.

02:32:12.000 You know what another perversion is?

02:32:13.000 People breaking into other people's houses and jerking off in their house or in their closet.

02:32:20.000 Busting loads on their clothes?

02:32:22.000 Yes.

02:32:22.000 And then running off?

02:32:23.000 Yes.

02:32:24.000 That's so disrespectful.

02:32:26.000 Well, that's when you know you're not a winner.

02:32:28.000 You're not Spider-Man.

02:32:29.000 You're not saving the world.

02:32:30.000 You're not going to be the president.

02:32:31.000 No superpower.

02:32:32.000 Or you are.

02:32:33.000 Or you're like a high-functioning executive and you get off on the fact that you might get caught doing something sexual.

02:32:39.000 What high-functioning executives do you know that break into people's houses and jerk off on their shoes?

02:32:44.000 None.

02:32:45.000 However, apparently it is a perversion that affects a lot of people.

02:32:49.000 So you can be a lawyer or whatever, and you get off on the fact that you break into somebody's house, you're jerking out of the closet, you might get caught.

02:32:56.000 Who knows if somebody comes home, you come and you leave, you run out.

02:32:59.000 That's something that affects, no matter what your socioeconomic status is.

02:33:02.000 But you don't even see the results unless you set up a camera.

02:33:05.000 It's the idea you might get caught.

02:33:07.000 So take a shit.

02:33:09.000 It's exciting for him.

02:33:10.000 So do people admit that they do this?

02:33:12.000 Is that how they find out about this or they catch them?

02:33:13.000 No.

02:33:14.000 So in a book called A Billion Wicked Thoughts, these guys who – neuroscience who studies sexual perversion and stuff, this is something that a lot of psychiatrists would deal with, right?

02:33:24.000 Or in people who have sexual perversions, it's a recognized thing where danger, where the idea you might get caught and doing something behind closed doors, doing something which would be outrageous – Is that from suppression?

02:33:37.000 When you say high-powered executives, I always think of people that are in a position where they're being forced to behave in an unnatural way and that bottles up.

02:33:46.000 When they start jacking off to your Louis Vuittons.

02:33:48.000 They start doing weird shit.

02:33:50.000 That's a big issue with businessmen that are really powerful guys.

02:33:54.000 They like to have women shit on them and do crazy things.

02:33:57.000 Or dominatrix.

02:33:58.000 Hey Jamie, someone jacks off on your Yeezys.

02:34:01.000 Well, there's a girl who was a dominatrix that met me and Jim Norton in Austin.

02:34:07.000 We were eating dinner after a show, and we're hanging out, and this girl, because she knew that Jimmy Norton, who's a fucking pervert and a half, is into dominatrixes, so she came over.

02:34:16.000 Did you say dominatrix is?

02:34:18.000 Dominatrix.

02:34:19.000 Into being dominated, and he likes...

02:34:21.000 Yeah, but do you say is dominatrixes?

02:34:23.000 He's into dominatrix.

02:34:25.000 Would you say a bunch of dominatrix?

02:34:27.000 San Diego Wings.

02:34:28.000 Would you say they're like deer?

02:34:29.000 I don't think you can say he's into dominatrixes.

02:34:32.000 No, dominatrix.

02:34:33.000 He's into being dominated.

02:34:35.000 Okay, but if you have a room full of women that work as a dominatrix, what do you have a room full of?

02:34:39.000 Bitches.

02:34:39.000 You have...

02:34:42.000 Yeah, it's called dominatrix.

02:34:44.000 What would you call it?

02:34:45.000 I mean, has it ever been used in the plural?

02:34:47.000 I've never heard it.

02:34:48.000 Are they so rare they're never in a room together?

02:34:50.000 It would have to be dominatrixes.

02:34:52.000 Dominatrixes.

02:34:53.000 So you were saying, though, Jim Norton likes to be dominant?

02:34:55.000 Oh, so this girl, she came over to our table?

02:34:58.000 No, he doesn't go that deep, but he's just a freak.

02:35:01.000 He's the best.

02:35:02.000 So anyway, this girl comes over and she says, I just want to introduce myself.

02:35:05.000 My name is, you know, Madam Crush Your Balls, whatever the fuck her name is.

02:35:08.000 And then, you know, we say, come on, sit down with us.

02:35:10.000 Tell us stories.

02:35:11.000 So she sits down with us.

02:35:12.000 You know, she doesn't name any names.

02:35:13.000 She's an actual real pro.

02:35:15.000 And she starts telling us about all these different guys that she shits on.

02:35:20.000 Celebrities?

02:35:20.000 No, no, no.

02:35:21.000 Mostly wealthy businessmen.

02:35:23.000 Wow.

02:35:24.000 Lawyers people that have a lot of people that work under them they have power and they're also like like bent they're all fucking pressured and high strong strung out I dated I gave one of these girls who had a chair she took me to her dungeon and she had a steel chair and When you say dated,

02:35:42.000 is it like you say John Joseph's your best friend?

02:35:45.000 Yes.

02:35:46.000 That's very good.

02:35:47.000 We had sex lots.

02:35:48.000 And she brought me to the steel chair, and you sit in the steel chair, and your balls...

02:35:53.000 Not for me.

02:35:54.000 Your balls go through the chair.

02:35:55.000 When you say you, don't say you.

02:35:57.000 They say the guy.

02:35:58.000 Well, the guy.

02:35:59.000 Me, I was just observing.

02:36:00.000 I'm not into being dominated.

02:36:03.000 Your balls go through the hole?

02:36:04.000 She was a cutout for your balls?

02:36:06.000 Yes.

02:36:07.000 And so you'd tie your balls, you take a string, wrap it around your balls, and tie it to a chain, to a link, on the bottom of the floor.

02:36:14.000 What are we talking about here?

02:36:15.000 You're not going anywhere.

02:36:15.000 Your balls are tied.

02:36:17.000 Who would get off to that?

02:36:18.000 Well, and then you get peed on.

02:36:19.000 You did that?

02:36:20.000 No, I'm not into that.

02:36:21.000 Hey, do you want to hear Yair Rodriguez talk about this?

02:36:23.000 Not really.

02:36:24.000 Crank this volume up.

02:36:25.000 Nah.

02:36:25.000 What's he going to say?

02:36:26.000 What's he going to say?

02:36:27.000 He already talked about it.

02:36:29.000 But I want to hear what he's saying now because he's getting interviewed by Kenny Florian.

02:36:32.000 Let's talk about shit!

02:36:33.000 We will, we will.

02:36:35.000 Shit.

02:36:40.000 I went up stretching the strategy to him.

02:36:52.000 Tarvin Woodley making controversy.

02:36:58.000 God, he's good.

02:37:04.000 Look how quickly he steps to the side, too, once BJ goes down.

02:37:07.000 Watch, steps.

02:37:08.000 Look at that sidestep to get side control and hammer, hammer, hammer, hammer.

02:37:15.000 Who's this guy?

02:37:16.000 Is this the car rental guy?

02:37:19.000 Is that him?

02:37:21.000 Must be.

02:37:22.000 Of course it's possible, bro.

02:37:24.000 Okay.

02:37:25.000 Do you know why?

02:37:27.000 Do you know why?

02:37:27.000 Let's talk about Brian and his balls kicked in.

02:37:29.000 Do you know where most of the shit videos come out of?

02:37:31.000 Germany.

02:37:32.000 No.

02:37:32.000 And Japan.

02:37:33.000 And do you know why?

02:37:34.000 Especially Germany.

02:37:34.000 Because they lost the world war and then they failed deep shame.

02:37:36.000 It goes back to what you were saying.

02:37:37.000 What?

02:37:38.000 It goes back to what you were saying.

02:37:39.000 They're a very, very suppressed culture.

02:37:40.000 There's a very...

02:37:42.000 Disciplined, rigid.

02:37:43.000 Have you ever gotten down that bunny hole?

02:37:44.000 I never have.

02:37:45.000 Oh, bro, they have masks.

02:37:46.000 I can't do it.

02:37:47.000 And then they shit into the mask.

02:37:49.000 What?

02:37:49.000 I just can't do it.

02:37:50.000 Oh, bro.

02:37:50.000 One of my favorite pictures in the internet ever was from the 90s, and it was that girl, it's called, it's like Japanese bathtub girl.

02:37:57.000 The girl's in the bathtub, and she's got her asshole straight up in the air, and she's shooting a fountain of yellow diarrhea out of her asshole.

02:38:05.000 Ah!

02:38:05.000 It's landing in her face.

02:38:07.000 What are we talking about?

02:38:08.000 We're talking about life.

02:38:09.000 In all of its various forms.

02:38:11.000 What the fuck?

02:38:11.000 The spectrum of behavior.

02:38:13.000 I know a super wealthy man.

02:38:15.000 Super wealthy.

02:38:16.000 Don't say his name on the air, but write it down on a piece of paper and hold it up and I'll read it out.

02:38:19.000 Do we know him?

02:38:20.000 Do we know him, B? You don't know him.

02:38:22.000 Does Drogon know him?

02:38:23.000 You know somebody who knows him.

02:38:25.000 Look at that picture.

02:38:26.000 That's one of the greatest pictures in the history of the internet.

02:38:28.000 I just can't!

02:38:29.000 God damn it!

02:38:30.000 Joe Rogan, God damn it!

02:38:31.000 Well, it looks like she has a mask on, too.

02:38:33.000 Well, I don't fucking care, man!

02:38:36.000 That's what Will Sasso said, whatever you do, don't open my laptop.

02:38:39.000 And he put it in my dressing room, and I go, don't do that.

02:38:41.000 He goes, whatever you do, don't open my laptop and look at it.

02:38:45.000 And he was right in front of my dressing room, and I had to look, and that's what I fucking saw.

02:38:49.000 And now I saw it again.

02:38:50.000 I love about that picture.

02:38:51.000 She has her socks on.

02:38:53.000 God damn it.

02:38:53.000 She's classy at least.

02:38:55.000 And she's holding her toes.

02:38:56.000 Because she doesn't want to slip.

02:38:57.000 Good form if you're like, you know, you do.

02:38:58.000 I forgot what I was going to say too, motherfucker.

02:39:01.000 I'll throw up.

02:39:02.000 I had something fun to say too.

02:39:03.000 God damn it.

02:39:05.000 Will Sasso, diarrhea.

02:39:07.000 Diarrhea.

02:39:07.000 Throw it up on my laptop.

02:39:08.000 I feel sick.

02:39:09.000 No, not that either.

02:39:10.000 Why do they do that?

02:39:11.000 Why don't they do that?

02:39:12.000 Why do they shit on each other?

02:39:14.000 Well, it's like the whole idea...

02:39:15.000 Wow, look at that.

02:39:16.000 Champion, Jose Aldo.

02:39:17.000 That seems weird to me.

02:39:19.000 Doesn't make sense.

02:39:20.000 It seems weird to me.

02:39:21.000 And then Max Holloway, interim champion.

02:39:23.000 Like, what is going on?

02:39:24.000 When you have a champion who didn't win the title...

02:39:28.000 In a fight in the Octagon, he was awarded it after he won an interim title against Frankie Edgar, which is a beautiful performance on his part.

02:39:36.000 And then Max Holloway wears an interim.

02:39:39.000 But then think about how Max Holloway got it.

02:39:41.000 I love Max Holloway and he has nine fights in a row that he won.

02:39:43.000 But then he beats Anthony Pettis, who's never fought at that weight.

02:39:46.000 He did fight at the weight once before.

02:39:48.000 Well, fought once before Olivera.

02:39:49.000 But really not a top contender.

02:39:51.000 Really not.

02:39:52.000 Realistically not.

02:39:53.000 And then leaves the weight class.

02:39:55.000 Now he's at 55. And then he won your belt off that.

02:39:57.000 Yeah.

02:39:58.000 It's so fucking strange.

02:40:00.000 It's weird.

02:40:00.000 But I love how everyone has belts.

02:40:01.000 Well, do you think that this is just a part of the transition between Zufa and WME and that this is going to be like this transitionary period where everything...

02:40:10.000 Powerful watch, Tyron Woodley.

02:40:12.000 Champ's got good taste in watches.

02:40:14.000 Is it a Rolex?

02:40:15.000 It's a fat one, whatever it is.

02:40:16.000 It looks good.

02:40:17.000 But the thing being...

02:40:19.000 Look at that bad boy.

02:40:19.000 It could be an Invicta.

02:40:20.000 But the thing is, there's obviously some sort of a transition going on.

02:40:26.000 80 people have been fired, including Goldberg.

02:40:28.000 It's a crazy time.

02:40:31.000 I think they're scrambling for stars, and I think Belts brings along some sort of ratings.

02:40:36.000 I just think they're in this feeling-out period, this transition period, that they're just trying to figure it out.

02:40:41.000 And I think that's why Dana's entertaining this Conor McGregor fight, because what else would we talk about?

02:40:47.000 Name something else big going on in the UFC right now.

02:40:51.000 Go!

02:40:51.000 What's interesting is, does WME, or this organization, have they really been involved in anything where the outcome is totally unpredictable like combat sports?

02:41:02.000 Because the promotion for the Holley, or excuse me, the Ronda fight, was a perfect example of something like, well we really hadn't seen it that way before.

02:41:11.000 We really hadn't seen it go 100% heavy towards the superstar, right?

02:41:16.000 100% heavy.

02:41:17.000 Usually, it's like, you know, you would see a promo piece, like, say if it's like Woodley vs.

02:41:22.000 Wonderboy, you would see Wonderboy highlights, you would see Woodley highlights, you would see ass kicking on both sides, you'd be like, holy shit, what a fight, I can't wait.

02:41:30.000 They didn't do that at all.

02:41:31.000 Which scares me.

02:41:32.000 They did it the way they would do a movie.

02:41:34.000 Yes.

02:41:34.000 They did it the way they would promote a TV show, they did it the way they would promote a new Kiefer Sutherland series on Netflix.

02:41:40.000 Where you see only the star.

02:41:42.000 I shouldn't say Netflix.

02:41:43.000 I should say Fox.

02:41:45.000 That's what scares me because Dana White, when it comes to this, is a genius.

02:41:50.000 I don't think he would allow that to happen.

02:41:53.000 I'm just wondering how involved he is.

02:41:55.000 Without Dana, if you just have WME running it...

02:41:57.000 Fuck, man.

02:41:58.000 Well, it did look dope, though.

02:41:59.000 I'll tell you what, I don't agree with the fact that they ignore...

02:42:02.000 I'm a purist in a lot of ways when it comes to combat sports, and I think you have to respect the hierarchy of the champion.

02:42:08.000 I don't give a fuck who's the famous person.

02:42:10.000 This championship thing is so important.

02:42:13.000 When you have the...

02:42:14.000 If you're gonna have champions, you gotta respect the champion.

02:42:17.000 Like, whoever the fuck it is.

02:42:18.000 It's super important...

02:42:20.000 That you make a big deal out of the fact that that person's a champion.

02:42:23.000 And they made, like, almost no deal out of the fact that she was a champion.

02:42:26.000 It was this weird situation, but it was really well done in terms of, like, getting me amped up for it.

02:42:31.000 It wasn't, though.

02:42:31.000 I disagree.

02:42:32.000 I disagree.

02:42:33.000 But for me, it was.

02:42:34.000 For me, look, I... Because you're the one doing the fucking promo!

02:42:38.000 No, no, no, no, no.

02:42:38.000 No, most of that was not me.

02:42:40.000 Most of that was like you open up the fucking curtain, the garage door, and you see her hitting the pads.

02:42:45.000 I had almost nothing in that.

02:42:46.000 The only thing that I said is I can't imagine she's not going to come back and be motivated or pumped up or whatever.

02:42:53.000 By the way, a lot of the stuff they use in those promos, totally out of context.

02:42:57.000 Like when I was saying that she's the best ever, there's no one even close, there's her and there's everybody else.

02:43:01.000 Yeah, you said that.

02:43:02.000 That was a long time ago.

02:43:04.000 That was a long time ago.

02:43:06.000 Correct.

02:43:06.000 I did not say that for this fight.

02:43:08.000 No, you didn't say this for this fight.

02:43:10.000 I think you said that for the Betch-Cohea fight.

02:43:13.000 Yeah, so see, when they're making these promos, they're patching stuff.

02:43:18.000 For me, I have a problem with that, because that's not what I would say.

02:43:22.000 So you're using an old quote when she was dominating people versus a new quote post-headkick knockout, post-the emergence of Amanda Nunes after she stops Darren McMahon, versus...

02:43:37.000 What you're seeing now in this division, which is all this new blood coming up, you're seeing this division percolate and change and evolve.

02:43:46.000 And you're seeing higher-level fighters come in, like Valentina Shevchenko, like Amanda Nunes, like Holly Holm.

02:43:52.000 You're seeing all this stuff take place in front of you, seeing this change in the women's division the same way you saw a change in the men's division from 1997 to 2017. You're seeing that now take place at an accelerated pace.

02:44:07.000 In the women's division.

02:44:08.000 So who was dominant two years ago?

02:44:11.000 Like, to use a quote from two years ago is really not fair.

02:44:14.000 I agree.

02:44:15.000 Not at all.

02:44:15.000 It's really not fair.

02:44:16.000 It's a mischaracterization.

02:44:17.000 But it builds the fight up, right?

02:44:19.000 It builds the fight up, but...

02:44:20.000 But it's not the way to do it.

02:44:21.000 I agree.

02:44:22.000 I'm a purist, too.

02:44:23.000 But the thing is, is if you understand this sport and you look at...

02:44:26.000 Let's say you want to copy the NFL. The NFL would never just focus on Tom Brady.

02:44:30.000 Never.

02:44:31.000 Because there's a good fucking chance...

02:44:32.000 Roethlisberger wins next week.

02:44:34.000 Now imagine if they just did all promos on New England.

02:44:37.000 People would be like, what the fuck is this?

02:44:39.000 Exactly.

02:44:39.000 This is some bullshit.

02:44:41.000 Roethlisberger's fucking good, man.

02:44:42.000 Worse than that, you're talking about all promos that aren't the champion.

02:44:48.000 Yeah.

02:44:49.000 Which is worse than that, right?

02:44:50.000 Because you're talking about someone who just lost by brutal knockout.

02:44:52.000 They're getting a shot right away at the title.

02:44:54.000 And the idea is that even though they lost, they lost, but it was some bullshit.

02:44:59.000 Now she's back.

02:45:00.000 She's back.

02:45:01.000 Now she's back.

02:45:01.000 After 411 days, she's back.

02:45:02.000 Yeah, it's fucking...

02:45:04.000 It's just a bad business plan.

02:45:07.000 There was a lot of talk by people that I don't know, but I was listening to people talk about it, like I don't know who they are, executive type people, and I was like, wow, you guys have this idea of how this is going to go down.

02:45:18.000 Like, they were just super...

02:45:20.000 Super connected to this idea.

02:45:22.000 I don't know who they were.

02:45:23.000 I don't know if they're friends.

02:45:24.000 I don't know.

02:45:25.000 But there was a lot of people that were talking that had this idea that she was just going to go in and storm the castle and take back what's hers.

02:45:31.000 And Merker like this.

02:45:31.000 I had a conversation with a high-up exec at a big-time corporation, and we're talking to him and I'm like, oh my, you have no idea.

02:45:39.000 What did he say to you?

02:45:41.000 We were talking about Conor and Ronda, and he goes, listen, Ronda had that one hiccup.

02:45:45.000 She will never lose again.

02:45:46.000 I'm like, that's not true, man.

02:45:48.000 What?

02:45:48.000 He goes, no, no, no.

02:45:49.000 She would never lose again.

02:45:51.000 And he goes, and Conor, not a chance.

02:45:53.000 I'm like, what are you talking about?

02:45:54.000 Dude, these people were talking backstage.

02:45:56.000 The MMA gods are like, excuse me?

02:45:59.000 These people were talking backstage, and one of them didn't know Nunes' name.

02:46:03.000 And they were calling her cannon fodder.

02:46:05.000 Oh, boy.

02:46:07.000 It's just ignorance.

02:46:08.000 They don't know anything.

02:46:08.000 Who knows who these people are?

02:46:10.000 They could be...

02:46:11.000 I mean, I don't know who they were.

02:46:11.000 They could be people who are friends of people who know some people that work at William Morris and they're backstage dressed in fucking $2,000 suits and they look classy.

02:46:21.000 Who knows?

02:46:22.000 I don't know.

02:46:22.000 William Morris, they shouldn't be doing anything without going through Dana White first.

02:46:27.000 They should not be doing anything.

02:46:29.000 Yeah.

02:46:30.000 It's been in the game way too long for you guys to make any decisions without having some sort of influence from a guy who's come from the ground up from it.

02:46:38.000 Going, you can't do that.

02:46:39.000 Listen, our fan base is going to yell bullshit on this man.

02:46:42.000 And if Ronda doesn't win, we're going to get fucking reamed.

02:46:46.000 Calling her cannon fodder, huh?

02:46:48.000 Yeah, that was the word that someone used.

02:46:50.000 Do you think that at this stage that there should be some sort of clearly established protocol as far as who fights who and why?

02:47:00.000 You have to.

02:47:01.000 Otherwise, you're no different than the WWE. Then people won't take a lot of the interim titles and the championship fights serious.

02:47:08.000 Here's my argument against that.

02:47:10.000 Dan Henderson and Michael Bisping.

02:47:12.000 I wanted to see that fight.

02:47:13.000 It was crazy.

02:47:14.000 Goddamn time!

02:47:14.000 That's because we love Dan.

02:47:16.000 I agree.

02:47:16.000 I love Dan and I love Mike.

02:47:17.000 And I know Mike wanted it back.

02:47:19.000 He finally got the title.

02:47:20.000 He's like, fuck this.

02:47:22.000 I know, Joe.

02:47:22.000 It doesn't work like that, though.

02:47:23.000 That guy knocked me out.

02:47:24.000 He's got his fucking picture of him flying through the air, punching me in the head while I'm out cold.

02:47:30.000 Everybody knows what that logo is.

02:47:31.000 He's like, fuck this.

02:47:32.000 Fuck him.

02:47:33.000 And he landed it twice on him in the fight.

02:47:35.000 No, don't get me wrong.

02:47:36.000 It might be the fight of the year.

02:47:37.000 It's up there.

02:47:37.000 But I think you have to have some sort of structure where people can see what's going on.

02:47:42.000 Exemptions.

02:47:43.000 Maybe it's like a USADA exemption.

02:47:44.000 Yeah, maybe you have an exemption.

02:47:46.000 From Brock Lesnar, how he got away with that four month.

02:47:48.000 You get one a year.

02:47:49.000 The problem is if you do that, you're right, you miss out on those really fun kind of revenge fights.

02:47:53.000 Yes!

02:47:53.000 But then you can't say, oh, we want to be the next NFL, NBA. Let me ask you this.

02:47:58.000 Do you think, I mean, outside of promoting...

02:48:01.000 See, the thing is, it's weird.

02:48:04.000 It's like, are you a sport where someone has a very clear...

02:48:08.000 You know, like the World Series.

02:48:10.000 Someone can't lose a game and then all of a sudden be in the World Series, right?

02:48:14.000 It's just like there's a protocol.

02:48:16.000 You have to go through that protocol.

02:48:17.000 Some game series, yeah.

02:48:18.000 But do you think that there's a possibility, like, you could have something like that, some established setup, but then they could throw it to the internet for, like, a wild card?

02:48:27.000 You can't have that.

02:48:28.000 You cannot have that.

02:48:30.000 Every now and then.

02:48:31.000 You can't have that.

02:48:32.000 Maybe the UFC gets three wild cards a year.

02:48:35.000 Oh, God.

02:48:36.000 Oh my God.

02:48:36.000 The problem is the people that would answer that thing.

02:48:38.000 But here's the other thing.

02:48:39.000 I wonder if in MMA, young Jamie's shaking his head.

02:48:41.000 No, no, no.

02:48:42.000 It's crazy, Jamie.

02:48:42.000 Try that.

02:48:43.000 How important is...

02:48:44.000 Voting for the all-star teams and shit.

02:48:45.000 That's how Yao Ming is the number one vote hitter every year.

02:48:48.000 Every year.

02:48:49.000 Why?

02:48:49.000 Is it because Chinese people is more of him?

02:48:51.000 Well, technically, yes.

02:48:52.000 But let me ask you this.

02:48:53.000 Do they do it online?

02:48:54.000 Is that what they do?

02:48:54.000 There's a guy right now that's the number one forward for the Warriors, but no one knows even how to say his name.

02:48:59.000 Is he from China?

02:49:00.000 No, his name is Zsa Zsa Pachulia, but he's the leading vote-getter.

02:49:03.000 Where's he from?

02:49:04.000 He was good.

02:49:05.000 I have no idea.

02:49:07.000 Zsa Zsa, I don't know.

02:49:07.000 Lithuania, maybe?

02:49:08.000 But let me ask you this question about MMA. Michiro, to your point.

02:49:11.000 Here's a question.

02:49:11.000 Seattle Mariners.

02:49:12.000 Do you think, I wonder about MMA, whether being champion in most of the divisions is even that important to the fans?

02:49:19.000 In other words...

02:49:20.000 Oh, yeah.

02:49:21.000 No, hold on.

02:49:21.000 What's important to people is Conor McGregor, right?

02:49:24.000 Ronda Rousey.

02:49:25.000 There's something colorful about them.

02:49:27.000 Complicated people.

02:49:28.000 Somebody who speaks well.

02:49:29.000 So we watch those guys.

02:49:30.000 But I'm not so sure that because Michael Bisbing is champion that his viewership goes up as a result.

02:49:37.000 Oh, it does, for sure.

02:49:38.000 It's clinically proven it does.

02:49:40.000 Terrible point, sir.

02:49:41.000 Terrible point.

02:49:42.000 Terrible point.

02:49:42.000 And you know what?

02:49:43.000 I need you to take a break after that.

02:49:45.000 To your point, you...

02:49:46.000 You can say Ronda was the biggest, but Ronda was a different force, and the reason she got so big is because she was champion.

02:49:53.000 If Ronda was never champion, we're not even talking about it.

02:49:55.000 But also, what she did to indulge that whole popularity thing was very different than Conor's approach.

02:50:03.000 If Conor had decided to take that exact same approach and go do a ton of movies, He'd go do a ton of talk shows and go do a ton of commercials from Budweiser's and Entourage and all this different shit.

02:50:14.000 If he started doing that same shit, his star would rise proportionately to where her star rose and his performances inside the Octagon would suffer proportionately to where hers did.

02:50:24.000 And he didn't do it and he's still bigger.

02:50:26.000 We were talking about that guy that did that interview.

02:50:28.000 He's a sports guy and he was talking about...

02:50:31.000 No, no, the other guy, the black guy who was with him.

02:50:33.000 Shannon Sharp.

02:50:34.000 Is that his name?

02:50:34.000 Yeah.

02:50:35.000 And he had a great point.

02:50:36.000 Shannon Sharp had a great point.

02:50:37.000 And he said, Ronda cheated on MMA. He said, you've got to be all in.

02:50:42.000 He goes, you can't go and do a bunch of other shit and think you're just so much better than everybody else that it's never going to catch up to you.

02:50:47.000 It comes from another one percenter athlete who knows and who's had all this kind of temptation.

02:50:52.000 And Shannon Sharp stuck to the game plan.

02:50:55.000 Cheated on MMA. And when he said it, I was like, this guy's dead right.

02:50:58.000 I think the business model, though, the only problem with the business model is that with MMA, it's really hard to invest in the champion because of the nature of the sport.

02:51:07.000 The belt will change.

02:51:09.000 Yeah, you're investing for one fight, Brian.

02:51:12.000 But still, the belt changes all the time.

02:51:15.000 But you're not investing in the champion.

02:51:17.000 You're investing in the organization and the fact that they have the best fighters in the world.

02:51:20.000 What you're doing with each fight is promoting a fight.

02:51:23.000 What I'm saying is that you have to respect the hierarchy of the championship above all.

02:51:28.000 The champion is the champion.

02:51:30.000 And if you don't respect the hierarchy of the champion, if you're somehow or another saying that this champion ain't shit, unless this champion is fighting Mike fucking Tyson when Tyson was 20 years old and just smashing everybody and you knew, oh my god, this is going to be the youngest ever.

02:51:45.000 Right.

02:51:48.000 Right.

02:51:59.000 We're like, we really don't know what we're going to get.

02:52:02.000 Let's hope for the best and put all the money into it.

02:52:05.000 That's fucking insane!

02:52:06.000 But also, you have an insanely marketable champion.

02:52:10.000 First of all, the first ever openly gay women's MMA champion and man's We should have never been an openly gay MMA champion.

02:52:17.000 So you have the whole LGBTQ, whatever they are now, A? Is there an name there?

02:52:21.000 It's about 8% of the population.

02:52:23.000 But still, you've got a leader for them.

02:52:25.000 But you have also a bunch of people that respect that and are progressive people that say, hey, this is great.

02:52:29.000 Like, look, it shows how diverse the UFC is.

02:52:31.000 Sure.

02:52:32.000 And her story's amazing.

02:52:33.000 Yeah, and the stupid shit that Meryl Streep said the other day, like, one of the reasons why she probably said it is because she's seeing Ronda Rousey's face plastered all over the place, and she's saying, hey, you know, you take foreigners out of Hollywood, you're going to be left with football and MMA. She doesn't understand that MMA,

02:52:49.000 like you saw tonight with Yair Rodriguez, is 80% foreigners.

02:52:52.000 She's so wrong about that.

02:52:54.000 And that's also art.

02:52:55.000 That jumping, spinning back kick would be art.

02:52:57.000 Oh, come on.

02:52:58.000 You tell me that 360 round kick that he fucking landed.

02:53:02.000 It's just like dance, but harder.

02:53:03.000 Jesus Christ.

02:53:04.000 Because you've got to hit somebody with it.

02:53:04.000 Yes, it's just like rhythmic gymnastics.

02:53:06.000 Hell yes.

02:53:07.000 She just doesn't know.

02:53:08.000 She's uneducated.

02:53:09.000 I mean, if dance is an art, then gymnastics in competition is also an art, because it's very similar.

02:53:14.000 It's just under more pressure, right?

02:53:16.000 So if gymnastics is an art, how the fuck is...

02:53:18.000 How are 360 round kicks not...

02:53:21.000 Oh, shit.

02:53:22.000 That guy on the ground is a bad motherfucker.

02:53:26.000 Hey, it's weird she used her Lifetime Achievement Award to talk shit about MMA and football.

02:53:32.000 Well, I think she was making a clumsy, larger point, but...

02:53:35.000 Yes.

02:53:35.000 For sure, celebrate what you...

02:53:37.000 Oh, did Nina and Sarov get caught?

02:53:39.000 That was not the time.

02:53:40.000 No, Nina and Sarov won.

02:53:42.000 Whoa.

02:53:43.000 Rear naked.

02:53:44.000 Round three.

02:53:45.000 That's Amanda Nunez's girlfriend.

02:53:47.000 Holla!

02:53:47.000 Yeah, holla!

02:53:48.000 Get some.

02:53:49.000 Red panty night!

02:53:50.000 Get some.

02:53:51.000 Red panty night, sir.

02:53:52.000 Get some.

02:53:53.000 That is an awesome story, huh?

02:53:55.000 Listen, man, she's a bad motherfucker.

02:53:58.000 Amanda Nunez?

02:53:59.000 Yeah, I guess she is a motherfucker.

02:54:01.000 She's a motherfucker.

02:54:01.000 Yeah, she's a motherfucker.

02:54:03.000 She's a fucking world champion, man.

02:54:06.000 A legit champion.

02:54:07.000 She'd be tough to beat.

02:54:08.000 Who's her biggest challenge, do you think?

02:54:09.000 She's got a lot of big challenges.

02:54:10.000 Shevchenko's a good challenge, and so is Juliana Pena.

02:54:13.000 Whoever wins that fight steps up and emerges.

02:54:15.000 Outside that, though.

02:54:16.000 Well listen, Holly and whoever the fuck wins that fight versus Holly and Jermaine Durandame, it's a very interesting fight because if Shevchenko, you've got Jermaine Durandame, and you've got Holly Holm.

02:54:30.000 Those are three super advanced strikers that could wind up facing Amanda Nunes.

02:54:35.000 All very interesting.

02:54:37.000 I don't think Nunes can jump to 45 right now and vacate the back 35. Fuck yes she can.

02:54:42.000 Do whatever the fuck you want to do.

02:54:44.000 Just pure chaos.

02:54:45.000 Chaos!

02:54:45.000 Hey, I got an idea.

02:54:46.000 What the fuck is...

02:54:47.000 And here's the dark horse.

02:54:49.000 Kat Zingano.

02:54:50.000 Kat Zingano beat Amanda Nunes, and she stopped her.

02:54:53.000 She's not active enough.

02:54:54.000 She's not even in the conversation.

02:54:55.000 She's not active enough.

02:54:57.000 She ramps it up.

02:54:58.000 She's still in the heat.

02:54:59.000 Let's get ramped up, then.

02:55:01.000 I love you, Kat.

02:55:02.000 Let's get ramped the fuck up, then.

02:55:03.000 She's a badass.

02:55:04.000 I agree.

02:55:04.000 I like it.

02:55:05.000 There's a lot going on, man.

02:55:07.000 So then Amanda just...

02:55:09.000 Vacates that belt or two-time champ champ champ.

02:55:12.000 She becomes champ champ.

02:55:15.000 Female champ champ.

02:55:16.000 First female champ champ.

02:55:17.000 Fuck's sakes.

02:55:17.000 And then CM Punk's headlining a fucking pay-per-view.

02:55:20.000 I don't know, man.

02:55:21.000 I think Amanda has the one quality that I think that everybody wants to see and she has the ability to stop women.

02:55:27.000 I mean fucking stop them.

02:55:29.000 The way she stopped Sarah.

02:55:30.000 The way she stopped Misha.

02:55:32.000 She smashes people and then she jerks them.

02:55:34.000 She's murked two legends.

02:55:35.000 She feels like she seems like a...

02:55:39.000 She's faster.

02:55:39.000 She seems just generally more explosive than every female by far.

02:55:43.000 She's very long.

02:55:45.000 Cyborg's a hundred pounds heavier than her.

02:55:47.000 Cyborg's so big.

02:55:49.000 Cyborg's not 235. She's a building with feet.

02:55:54.000 She's the same lawyer as John Jones in Lesnar.

02:55:57.000 You see that?

02:55:58.000 Them motherfuckers nasty.

02:56:00.000 Who's the lawyer?

02:56:01.000 Nasty.

02:56:01.000 Whoever got OJ off?

02:56:03.000 Nasty.

02:56:03.000 No.

02:56:04.000 No, I don't know.

02:56:05.000 They gotta hire some powerful shit, though.

02:56:08.000 She hired Johnny Cochran.

02:56:09.000 Oh, he's dead.

02:56:10.000 I know.

02:56:10.000 I think that, you know, look, she's...

02:56:13.000 Obviously, she's got a real problem, but I don't even think she really is a 145-er.

02:56:17.000 I think Cyborg's a 155-er.

02:56:19.000 I wouldn't say 185-er.

02:56:20.000 I mean, that's what she's probably walking around at.

02:56:23.000 But if she, right now, decided to fight whatever her natural weight is...

02:56:27.000 We've been pushing this for a while.

02:56:28.000 I think that's the future.

02:56:29.000 I think the future is you show up.

02:56:31.000 God, are we going back to this?

02:56:31.000 You show up at people's camps randomly, just the same way you're doing your SATA test.

02:56:35.000 You do it for fucking six months.

02:56:37.000 You test them.

02:56:38.000 You find out what they actually fucking weigh.

02:56:39.000 What do you weigh?

02:56:40.000 What do you weigh when you're training?

02:56:41.000 You never know when they're coming, so you have to stay light.

02:56:43.000 And you have to find out, oh, look, Brian Callen, you're 175. That's what you weigh.

02:56:46.000 Not 145, you're 175. That's what you fight at.

02:56:49.000 And so you have an obligation to get to your lowest body fat, and you know that the UFC is coming knocking on your door with weight tests before you train.

02:56:58.000 Well, no one's gonna know.

02:57:00.000 No one's gonna know when this happens and then you sit it down and you blow up the fucking champions.

02:57:04.000 You blow up the whole thing and you start from scratch.

02:57:06.000 You have 37 champions.

02:57:07.000 You have a world series of champions!

02:57:11.000 Everyone's a champ.

02:57:12.000 Every 10 pounds.

02:57:13.000 You have the opportunity to lose some body fat.

02:57:16.000 You know what?

02:57:16.000 That's what they're doing now though.

02:57:17.000 Look at all these interim belts.

02:57:18.000 They might as well do it.

02:57:20.000 No, no, no.

02:57:20.000 This is different.

02:57:21.000 No, I'm just saying everyone's getting a belt.

02:57:22.000 Might as well fucking have 10 pounds.

02:57:23.000 Not everyone's getting a belt.

02:57:24.000 There's a couple of belts thrown around.

02:57:26.000 Tony Ferguson.

02:57:27.000 Tony Henderson and Kalabib.

02:57:30.000 I think Ferguson and Habib is such a good fight.

02:57:37.000 Best fight of the year so far.

02:57:38.000 I don't care.

02:57:39.000 I need it five rounds.

02:57:40.000 I'll give a fuck how many belts are in line.

02:57:41.000 Oh, he fucked up Victor Peska.

02:57:44.000 Look, he was doing it from a standing position.

02:57:46.000 Oh, look at that.

02:57:48.000 So he went for it earlier.

02:57:50.000 And then Peska gets on top.

02:57:53.000 And so he wraps his arm around, and then he lets Pesker mount him.

02:57:56.000 He doesn't even try to stop the mount.

02:57:58.000 And he just sinks it in from the bottom.

02:58:00.000 He's putting a karate, his hand is in a karate chop like that?

02:58:02.000 Mm-hmm.

02:58:02.000 Very interesting.

02:58:04.000 First Ezekiel choke finish in UFC history.

02:58:07.000 And he did it from being mounted.

02:58:09.000 He's a hard-looking man.

02:58:10.000 That's incredible.

02:58:10.000 That is so incredible.

02:58:12.000 I feel like, otherwise, you're just going to keep doing the same thing over there.

02:58:16.000 How much is Tyrone over the way right now?

02:58:18.000 Tell you what, it's not 170!

02:58:20.000 Fuck no.

02:58:21.000 What's he, every bit of 200 shredded?

02:58:23.000 He's huge.

02:58:24.000 He's not tall, but he's fucking huge.

02:58:26.000 Hey, real quick, that Todd Grissom said me and him have the same haircut.

02:58:29.000 I beg to differ, sir.

02:58:31.000 It doesn't matter.

02:58:32.000 It is not the same.

02:58:33.000 That's the first time I've seen this haircut.

02:58:35.000 They're going over the submission.

02:58:36.000 Really fascinating.

02:58:37.000 I wonder if other people are going to try to pull this off.

02:58:39.000 Oh, that's tough to pull off.

02:58:41.000 Obviously he's got it down, Pat.

02:58:43.000 So he gets this.

02:58:44.000 That's some Russian shit.

02:58:45.000 And the other guy's fucking punched him in the head here.

02:58:49.000 And he lets him pass and he forces him to stay there.

02:58:52.000 Incredible.

02:58:53.000 He grapevined his legs from the outside.

02:58:54.000 Yep.

02:58:55.000 Yep.

02:58:55.000 Crazy.

02:58:56.000 He's kind of holding on to him.

02:58:57.000 He's trying to create space or something.

02:59:00.000 It's interesting that he doesn't get this in.

02:59:03.000 I wonder if he were to pass, does it relieve...

02:59:07.000 Right, right, right.

02:59:08.000 We'd have to fuck with it after this.

02:59:09.000 Well, you'd have to go, like, knee to belly, maybe?

02:59:11.000 I don't know.

02:59:12.000 Is it more pressure?

02:59:13.000 Yeah.

02:59:13.000 Well, knee to belly, if you go knee to belly from there, say if you pass, instead of mount, instead if you, like, go to one side.

02:59:21.000 You know, Eddie Bravo doesn't mount anymore.

02:59:23.000 We were having this discussion about this.

02:59:25.000 I think it was on the podcast.

02:59:26.000 It was on here, and you're saying because he got submitted from there, so now he just does knee to belly.

02:59:29.000 Well, so many people are so good at that now, guys with a lot of leg dexterity and flexibility, and they throw those legs up on the top.

02:59:35.000 But they also go for the ankle lock.

02:59:37.000 And they're so tight with that, especially like, you know, Eddie rolls a lot of times with either gi pants on or with tights, with spats.

02:59:44.000 And so if you got those rash guards on, man, it creates a lot of friction.

02:59:47.000 Different game.

02:59:48.000 Yeah.

02:59:49.000 It's one of the reasons why a lot of the real high-level leg lock guys, you see Gary Tonin, you see Eddie Cummins, they wear shorts.

02:59:55.000 That's right.

02:59:56.000 Yeah.

02:59:56.000 Which is really even more impressive that you can catch those things, because that was part of the reason why a lot of guys like Aoki would wear those crazy tights, was for that extra traction.

03:00:06.000 He was known for him, too.

03:00:07.000 Yeah, that was awesome.

03:00:08.000 Yeah.

03:00:08.000 Then when he took him off, it wasn't shit.

03:00:10.000 If you think about it.

03:00:11.000 Shit.

03:00:12.000 He took him off and got his ass on.

03:00:14.000 Shit.

03:00:15.000 Got his ass whooped.

03:00:17.000 He had to deal with elbows, too, right?

03:00:19.000 Yeah, either way, he got his ass whooped.

03:00:19.000 You got a spot somewhere?

03:00:20.000 I'm going to have to go home and see my wife.

03:00:22.000 Oh.

03:00:22.000 She didn't get reason, sir.

03:00:24.000 Where you going, bro?

03:00:24.000 Just trying to watch.

03:00:25.000 Sling some dick?

03:00:26.000 Yeah.

03:00:26.000 All right.

03:00:27.000 Sling some dick to the wife.

03:00:28.000 I'm a gift to my peace.

03:00:29.000 All right.

03:00:31.000 Honey, you just earned this.

03:00:32.000 I'm 49. We wrap this up.

03:00:34.000 It's 10 past 10. This is a fun podcast.

03:00:37.000 Hell yeah.

03:00:37.000 Yeah, guys.

03:00:37.000 We actually talked some fighting.

03:00:39.000 Fuck yeah.

03:00:39.000 We did.

03:00:39.000 I'm proud of you guys.

03:00:40.000 We definitely talked the main fight.

03:00:41.000 And I want you guys to keep this image in mind.

03:00:43.000 The rich guy I was talking about would get in a canister.

03:00:46.000 A big fucking canister and have girls fart.

03:00:50.000 Hey, fight the kids live!

03:00:51.000 This week, Seattle, Vancouver, Portland.

03:00:53.000 Go see these guys.

03:00:54.000 T-Fact K this week.

03:00:55.000 And make sure you shit on Brian about John Joseph.

03:00:59.000 John!

03:01:00.000 John, tweet out!

03:01:01.000 Tweet for me, Johnny!

03:01:02.000 I'm sure you know him.

03:01:03.000 I'm sure.

03:01:04.000 Goodbye, you fucks.

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