The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion

00:00:01.000 Alright, you're on.

00:00:02.000 We're on live?

00:00:03.000 Yeah.

00:00:05.000 We're on live, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:06.000 Nobody even knows it.

00:00:08.000 Justin Scoggins is about to fight.

00:00:10.000 There was a bit of a delay with Callan and Schaub getting here.

00:00:15.000 Southwest Airlines.

00:00:16.000 Yeah, Southwest Airlines.

00:00:17.000 They fly every 15 minutes.

00:00:19.000 It's amazing they get anywhere at all.

00:00:21.000 I agree.

00:00:22.000 It's like a bus.

00:00:23.000 They fly everywhere.

00:00:26.000 Anywhere anybody won't fly, they're like, alright, we're cool.

00:00:29.000 If you've never heard this podcast before, this is what we call Fight Companion Podcast.

00:00:35.000 Scoggins, this kid right here, Justin Scoggins, that's his name, right?

00:00:39.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:00:39.000 He's a bad motherfucker.

00:00:40.000 I called one of his fights before.

00:00:42.000 And he is about to fight.

00:00:44.000 The fight is going to start.

00:00:46.000 Mario Yamasaki says, go now.

00:00:48.000 Fight starts now.

00:00:50.000 Pressure.

00:00:51.000 Really interesting fighter.

00:00:53.000 He fights.

00:00:54.000 He's got this karate style, but he also throws a lot of traditional martial arts techniques, and he's got a wrestling background, so it's pretty interesting.

00:01:08.000 Oh, he's getting dragged to the ground.

00:01:09.000 Look at this.

00:01:12.000 Scoggins is the guy with the black shorts.

00:01:13.000 He's the guy on the bottom.

00:01:15.000 Dustin Ortiz.

00:01:16.000 Justin Scoggins and Dustin Ortiz.

00:01:20.000 Dustin came out.

00:01:21.000 Pressure, man.

00:01:22.000 Yeah, big pressure.

00:01:22.000 Just put it on him right away.

00:01:23.000 Which is pretty impressive, because Scoggin's a good wrestler.

00:01:26.000 If you've never heard this podcast before, this is what we call a fight companion podcast.

00:01:30.000 What we do is we watch the fights live.

00:01:32.000 We're watching the fights live.

00:01:33.000 It's 4.15 on the clock right now, if you want to sync up.

00:01:36.000 Who's trying to say?

00:01:38.000 Arbar, son.

00:01:39.000 Arbar, son.

00:01:39.000 Pretty good, pretty good.

00:01:40.000 Oh, it's tight.

00:01:41.000 Very nice.

00:01:42.000 I like how he scooted his hips up there.

00:01:44.000 That was some expert shit.

00:01:45.000 Oh, sneaky.

00:01:46.000 We do these podcasts while the fights are going live and we talk while the fights are happening.

00:01:51.000 And that's what we're doing right now.

00:01:52.000 Dustin Ortiz is on top.

00:01:53.000 Justin Scoggins is on the bottom.

00:01:55.000 Who came out with Fight Companion?

00:01:57.000 Who came out with that?

00:01:58.000 I don't know.

00:01:58.000 It just happened.

00:01:59.000 It just kind of happened.

00:02:00.000 But it's a good way to call it.

00:02:01.000 And so a lot of people, what they do is they watch this and they watch the fights at the same time.

00:02:06.000 If you're doing that, look at these kind of kneeing him in the face when he's down.

00:02:10.000 Which is kind of a sneaky thing you can do, right?

00:02:12.000 Can you do that?

00:02:13.000 Yeah, you can.

00:02:14.000 Oh, he's done.

00:02:15.000 He's done.

00:02:16.000 He's done.

00:02:16.000 It's going to pop.

00:02:17.000 I'm surprised he doesn't stop it.

00:02:18.000 Look at this, he's putting his foot in between.

00:02:19.000 I'm surprised he doesn't stop it.

00:02:20.000 Look at this, he's putting his foot on there.

00:02:22.000 That's pretty slick.

00:02:23.000 That's super slick, son.

00:02:25.000 Slick, but...

00:02:25.000 Oh, oh, [...

00:02:27.000 It's hyperextended.

00:02:29.000 Oh, this is so ugly.

00:02:30.000 Damn, that dude is gangster.

00:02:32.000 He's so tough that he's not...

00:02:35.000 Wow!

00:02:35.000 Wow, he got out of that.

00:02:36.000 That was amazing.

00:02:38.000 He got out of that.

00:02:38.000 But keep an eye on that arm.

00:02:40.000 That arm might be jackmified.

00:02:42.000 For sure.

00:02:43.000 Jackmified.

00:02:44.000 Another word.

00:02:45.000 Yeah, that thing's done, son.

00:02:47.000 That arm, for sure, it's going to suck jerking off with that thing for the next couple of weeks.

00:02:51.000 You're going to have to play the mystery man.

00:02:53.000 You have to use the left arm, Doug.

00:02:54.000 It's going to get really weird.

00:02:56.000 It was his left arm, wasn't it?

00:03:01.000 Wasn't it?

00:03:03.000 We'd have to go back over it again.

00:03:04.000 I'm pretty sure it was his left arm that he was attacking.

00:03:07.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:03:10.000 But Scoggins, very high on this kid.

00:03:13.000 He's only 21 too.

00:03:16.000 Wow.

00:03:16.000 And like I said, wrestling background, but real good at karate.

00:03:20.000 He's out of ATT? Yeah.

00:03:21.000 Are these guys 35ers?

00:03:23.000 No.

00:03:24.000 125. They're flyweights.

00:03:27.000 These motherfuckers go for days.

00:03:29.000 Cardio is even in their minds.

00:03:30.000 They don't even think about it.

00:03:32.000 They should have 25 minute rounds.

00:03:33.000 25 minute rounds.

00:03:35.000 Three 25 minute rounds.

00:03:36.000 They're hummingbirds.

00:03:38.000 Let's keep that hand down.

00:03:40.000 Look at this.

00:03:41.000 Goggins takes his back.

00:03:42.000 Very nice.

00:03:43.000 Good roll by Dustin.

00:03:44.000 Dustin looks like more of a wrestler.

00:03:46.000 And Scoggins has a lot more jujitsu.

00:03:51.000 But look at this.

00:03:52.000 Dustin's not giving up, man.

00:03:53.000 Motherfucker's on his back right now.

00:03:57.000 Ooh, good trip.

00:04:00.000 So we just got back from Vegas, too.

00:04:02.000 Incredible fights, man.

00:04:04.000 Amazing fights.

00:04:05.000 Crazy.

00:04:06.000 Look at this.

00:04:06.000 Ortiz is getting Scoggins back.

00:04:10.000 Scoggins fighting off those hooks.

00:04:12.000 He's going to spin.

00:04:12.000 Look at that.

00:04:13.000 Look at this.

00:04:14.000 He's going to spin.

00:04:16.000 Trying to hit that switch, the cage is in the way.

00:04:18.000 Cage fucks you up a lot of times, huh?

00:04:19.000 Cage really limits a lot of stuff.

00:04:21.000 It can help you sometimes, especially if you're a ground-and-pound guy, wrestler ground-and-pound.

00:04:25.000 It's a dream for you.

00:04:27.000 But as a jiu-jitsu guy, it makes things tougher, I think.

00:04:30.000 You can't shrimp out.

00:04:31.000 You can't maneuver.

00:04:31.000 Dustin Ortiz is Duke Rufus' guy.

00:04:34.000 Very interesting.

00:04:35.000 That's why he's so fucking good.

00:04:36.000 Who is Duke Rufus?

00:04:37.000 How dare you?

00:04:38.000 Sorry.

00:04:38.000 How dare you ever do a podcast about fighting?

00:04:39.000 It's for the fans.

00:04:41.000 It's for the fans.

00:04:41.000 I like asking questions that a lot of people don't know.

00:04:44.000 It's too bad we don't have a whip.

00:04:45.000 That's what I'm here for.

00:04:46.000 If we had a whip and they'd just slap Callen when he says that.

00:04:49.000 For real, how do you not know who Duke Rufus is?

00:04:51.000 I don't know.

00:04:51.000 Only this Coggins dropped down for a guillotine.

00:04:54.000 Duke Rufus is the brother of Rick Rufus, Rick the Jet Rufus, who is one of the big PKA karate stars, like one of the most exciting ones.

00:05:03.000 Yeah, amazing fighter who turned into a Muay Thai fighter after he had some Muay Thai fighters and got fucked up.

00:05:10.000 And then his brother, Duke, after Rick got fucked up by some Thai fighters, his brother went into Muay Thai himself and Duke became a Muay Thai world champion, and now he trains Anthony Pettis, Sergio Pettis.

00:05:25.000 He's trained Alan Belcher.

00:05:27.000 He's trained a lot of high-level fighters, and he trains this guy Dustin Ortiz, too.

00:05:31.000 He was on my podcast last week, two weeks ago.

00:05:33.000 Great, great, great guy.

00:05:35.000 Really good guy.

00:05:36.000 Salt of the earth.

00:05:37.000 Couldn't get a nicer person.

00:05:38.000 And super intelligent and really well-read when it comes to fighting.

00:05:44.000 She knows everything about Muay Thai, especially.

00:05:47.000 On TV, a lot of empty seats out there.

00:05:50.000 Yeah.

00:05:50.000 In the crowd.

00:05:51.000 Well, this is one of the first fights of the second card of the second day, and they're in a 14,000-seat arena.

00:05:58.000 Dude, if you're a UFC fan, you are just jizzing your pants for this weekend.

00:06:04.000 Listen, look at me right now.

00:06:06.000 Have you ever seen me this?

00:06:07.000 I have one lazy eye.

00:06:09.000 I'm exhausted.

00:06:10.000 Just got off the plane, straight to Rogan Studios.

00:06:15.000 Exhausted.

00:06:15.000 Nowhere to go.

00:06:16.000 And UFC, what?

00:06:18.000 I mean, it's been UFC 24-7.

00:06:20.000 I'm like CNN of UFC right now.

00:06:21.000 Well, I was out drinking with Mark Delgrate, Brian Callen, Brian Stan, my buddy Justin, and we were out until 4 o'clock in the fucking morning.

00:06:31.000 I had to get up at 7 and catch my flight.

00:06:32.000 I didn't realize how late it was.

00:06:33.000 Yeah.

00:06:34.000 Well, that's Vegas, man.

00:06:35.000 Everybody's...

00:06:35.000 At 4 o'clock in the morning, the place is mobbed.

00:06:37.000 Yeah.

00:06:37.000 And also, the casinos are set up so you don't realize how late it is.

00:06:41.000 Yeah.

00:06:41.000 There's music, the lights...

00:06:43.000 Dustin with a nice left hook there.

00:06:44.000 Look at this.

00:06:45.000 Boom with the right hand.

00:06:46.000 And then, boom, with the left.

00:06:48.000 Look at this.

00:06:50.000 Boom.

00:06:52.000 After two days in Vegas, though, I'm good.

00:06:54.000 You can keep it.

00:06:55.000 You can keep it.

00:06:56.000 That's my thoughts.

00:06:56.000 You can keep it.

00:06:58.000 That's my thoughts exactly.

00:06:59.000 Two days in Vegas is all you need.

00:07:03.000 Some dudes love it there, man.

00:07:04.000 I know.

00:07:05.000 Well, gamblers.

00:07:06.000 Look at how Scoggins' style, man.

00:07:07.000 It's a really interesting style for a guy who's a good wrestler.

00:07:09.000 Footwork's interesting, for sure.

00:07:10.000 Yeah, it's all karate.

00:07:12.000 He's very Machida-like.

00:07:14.000 Look at that.

00:07:14.000 But he throws a lot of front leg sidekicks.

00:07:16.000 Almost like point style.

00:07:21.000 Dustin Ortiz is no joke, though, man.

00:07:23.000 Not at all, man.

00:07:24.000 Just bringing it.

00:07:25.000 I love that leprechaun beard, too.

00:07:26.000 Oh, Bulletproof Coffee.

00:07:29.000 This podcast can get a lot better.

00:07:30.000 Look at this.

00:07:31.000 Scoggins with a beautiful tie-up of that.

00:07:33.000 He's got that right arm hooked like he's going for a crucifix here.

00:07:38.000 Someone almost got a crucifix this weekend.

00:07:40.000 I forget who it was.

00:07:42.000 Someone rolled into a crucifix.

00:07:43.000 Did the same thing.

00:07:44.000 Tied up one arm.

00:07:46.000 One of my faves.

00:07:46.000 Beautiful.

00:07:47.000 Drysdale got a rear naked choke first round.

00:07:50.000 Did he really?

00:07:50.000 Yep.

00:07:51.000 First fight of the night.

00:07:52.000 Not surprising.

00:07:53.000 Drysdale's a monster.

00:07:55.000 All I know is I got to hang out with Dan Severin.

00:07:58.000 The beast.

00:07:59.000 Yes.

00:08:00.000 He looks...

00:08:00.000 His skin's better than anyone's in this room, first of all.

00:08:03.000 56 years old.

00:08:04.000 Couldn't look better.

00:08:04.000 Yeah, it's amazing, right?

00:08:05.000 Was he drinking fucking raw milk all day and stuff?

00:08:08.000 I don't know.

00:08:08.000 Yeah.

00:08:09.000 Working on a farm somewhere?

00:08:10.000 Yeah.

00:08:10.000 He looks like a muscular Freddie Mercury.

00:08:13.000 He's a great guy, too.

00:08:15.000 Yeah.

00:08:15.000 He's got some great stories about the old wrestling days, international wrestling.

00:08:19.000 Look at this, Ortiz rolls Dustin over right in front of Rufus.

00:08:24.000 The other thing about having a coach like Duke Rufus is he's such a great guy that he motivates you so much.

00:08:30.000 You want to fight well for him.

00:08:31.000 Yeah, you want to win for him.

00:08:33.000 That's real, man.

00:08:34.000 Guys talk about their relationships that they have with their trainers like that.

00:08:38.000 Me and Dwayne were talking.

00:08:39.000 I had breakfast with Dwayne in Vegas for a time.

00:08:41.000 Him and TJ held close there.

00:08:43.000 He was saying for him it's cool because it's like he's living through TJ. He wished he had himself as a coach when he was coming up.

00:08:50.000 So for TJ, it's cool.

00:08:52.000 That is interesting.

00:08:53.000 It takes a lifetime to accumulate knowledge.

00:08:56.000 And a lot of times, by the time guys get there...

00:08:58.000 Their bodies are worn out.

00:09:00.000 It's crazy that TJ had no time to bask in the championship.

00:09:03.000 He'd just go right back into camp.

00:09:04.000 I don't like that.

00:09:05.000 I don't like that.

00:09:06.000 I was talking to TJ about it.

00:09:07.000 He goes, I'm right back into camp.

00:09:09.000 I said, already, man?

00:09:10.000 You just won the belt.

00:09:11.000 He goes, yeah, that's what they want, man.

00:09:12.000 I said, alright.

00:09:13.000 Well, you know, it was supposed to be in Vegas.

00:09:16.000 It was supposed to be August.

00:09:18.000 The late August show was supposed to be in Vegas.

00:09:21.000 And something happened.

00:09:22.000 They decide to move it to Sacramento because it's TJ's hometown.

00:09:27.000 Good for TJ. Yeah, great for TJ. Terrible for Burrell because of the quick turnaround after a KO. That's the only thing that concerns me.

00:09:35.000 But why rush it like this?

00:09:37.000 That's a good question.

00:09:38.000 Burrell's camp wanted it.

00:09:39.000 They wanted it right away.

00:09:41.000 They think it was a fluke.

00:09:42.000 No, homie.

00:09:43.000 A fluke is if you get hit right in the first round and get knocked out.

00:09:46.000 That's a fluke.

00:09:47.000 Five rounds of a pure ass whooping is not a fluke.

00:09:50.000 They think the five rounds came about because of the first round.

00:09:53.000 Because he clipped them.

00:09:53.000 Because he got dropped in the first round.

00:09:55.000 He didn't know where the fuck he was for the rest of the fight.

00:09:57.000 Oh, wow.

00:09:58.000 He went into the fifth round, apparently, and he thought it was the third round.

00:10:01.000 He had no idea what was going on.

00:10:03.000 I get that.

00:10:04.000 That speaks to your point about having him fight that early, though.

00:10:08.000 He needs more time off.

00:10:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:10:09.000 That's head trauma, man.

00:10:11.000 Those Brazilians are tough as nails, man.

00:10:13.000 They want They want to get that title back.

00:10:15.000 It's almost a default, though, you know?

00:10:16.000 Yeah.

00:10:16.000 Dustin Ortiz is strong as fuck, dude.

00:10:18.000 Look at this.

00:10:19.000 Meanwhile, he's all over Scoggins.

00:10:22.000 Unbelievable.

00:10:22.000 And Scoggins is like this kid that has a lot of hype behind him, and justifiably, but I am blown away by Dustin Ortiz.

00:10:30.000 Bring it.

00:10:31.000 I mean, just the fact that he got out of that armbar, man.

00:10:33.000 That armbar was fucking nasty.

00:10:34.000 It was his left arm, you're right.

00:10:36.000 I saw on the replay it was his left arm.

00:10:37.000 Was it?

00:10:37.000 Yeah.

00:10:37.000 Yeah, you're correct.

00:10:40.000 So maybe he jerks off lefty.

00:10:42.000 We don't know.

00:10:43.000 We don't know.

00:10:43.000 Maybe he makes it up.

00:10:44.000 Could be ambidextrous.

00:10:46.000 Maybe he just gets a cortisone shot so he can keep eating off.

00:10:49.000 He's flexible.

00:10:50.000 He might use both his feet.

00:10:52.000 Finds a doctor and gives him a cortisone shot so he can continue this jack-off.

00:10:56.000 I like how he almost got caught in a bad situation there and instinctively shoved that second arm in.

00:11:04.000 Where Scoggins was fishing for the triangle.

00:11:06.000 Ground and pound's tough, especially if you're a wrestler like this where you're at a wrestling base and you're heavy on a ground and pound like a Mark Munoz, it opens you up for submissions.

00:11:16.000 What are you saying, Brian?

00:11:17.000 This guy in the little box here, I saw him leaning against the...

00:11:20.000 Do you know who that is?

00:11:21.000 No.

00:11:22.000 How dare you again?

00:11:23.000 Yeah, who is it?

00:11:23.000 That's Marcus Conan Silviero.

00:11:26.000 He is such a stud.

00:11:27.000 That guy's a fucking legend.

00:11:28.000 He was one of the heavyweight champions of Extreme Fighting Championship.

00:11:32.000 He was a part of one of the fights that changed MMA. Really?

00:11:35.000 Yeah, because he fought Maurice Smith, and Maurice Smith head-kicked him.

00:11:40.000 He's from Denver.

00:11:41.000 Maurice is from Denver?

00:11:44.000 Yeah.

00:11:44.000 Really?

00:11:45.000 Originally?

00:11:45.000 Yeah.

00:11:46.000 No kidding.

00:11:46.000 He trained out of Seattle, though, right?

00:11:48.000 Mm-hmm.

00:11:48.000 Did most of his...

00:11:49.000 He lives in Seattle now.

00:11:50.000 Ran into Maurice this weekend at the Lion Fights.

00:11:52.000 Really?

00:11:52.000 Yeah, Muay Thai Fights.

00:11:53.000 How's he look?

00:11:54.000 Looks great.

00:11:55.000 Really?

00:11:55.000 Fucking just fought.

00:11:57.000 He's 50. He just fought?

00:11:58.000 Yeah, he won.

00:11:58.000 Head kick.

00:11:59.000 What?

00:12:00.000 Yeah.

00:12:00.000 At 50?

00:12:01.000 50. Oh, my God.

00:12:02.000 Yeah, had a fight.

00:12:02.000 Who did he fight?

00:12:03.000 Some guy who shouldn't have been fighting Maurice Smith.

00:12:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:12:06.000 Some guy who needs to work on his technique.

00:12:08.000 Some guy.

00:12:08.000 The guy Maurice Smith beat the shit out of him.

00:12:10.000 Tell me about Conan and the fight.

00:12:12.000 Oh, so Conan was a jiu-jitsu black belt, and...

00:12:15.000 That was back at the time when everybody thought the jiu-jitsu black belts were unstoppable.

00:12:19.000 If someone was a jiu-jitsu black belt, it was it.

00:12:21.000 You were getting killed.

00:12:23.000 It was like the Hoist Gracie days, the early days.

00:12:25.000 It was like 93, 94, somewhere around there.

00:12:27.000 And Maury Smith, leg kicked the fuck out of him and then head kicked him.

00:12:32.000 Wow.

00:12:32.000 Yeah, just kept the fight standing.

00:12:34.000 When he got taken to the ground, used good butterflies, got back up to his feet.

00:12:38.000 Just really never...

00:12:39.000 Maury's ground game was all about defense, 100% defense.

00:12:42.000 It was all butterflies and defense and endurance.

00:12:45.000 Maurice has crazy, crazy cardio for a heavyweight.

00:12:48.000 Or did.

00:12:49.000 Yeah, I remember that fight with Mark Coleman.

00:12:51.000 I remember that so well.

00:12:52.000 Just kept kicking him going, what's up?

00:12:53.000 Come on, ground and pound me, Mark.

00:12:54.000 Ground and pound me.

00:12:55.000 Mark Coleman, that's what he said during the pre-fight.

00:12:58.000 He was like, I'm going to ground and pound the shit out of him.

00:13:00.000 And so I was there, man.

00:13:01.000 I was there live.

00:13:03.000 I interviewed him after the fight.

00:13:04.000 That was back when I was the post-fight interviewer.

00:13:06.000 And Maurice was standing in front of him.

00:13:08.000 He goes, come on, Mark.

00:13:09.000 Ground and pound me.

00:13:09.000 Come on, Mark.

00:13:10.000 Whack!

00:13:11.000 Leg kick.

00:13:12.000 Come on, Mark!

00:13:12.000 He's talking to him like that?

00:13:13.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:13.000 Come on, grind and pound me.

00:13:14.000 Come on, grind and pound me.

00:13:15.000 Whack!

00:13:16.000 Damn gangster.

00:13:16.000 Whacked him with that leg kick, yeah.

00:13:18.000 Pure gangster.

00:13:19.000 Yeah.

00:13:19.000 But he was, he's not an, Morris is an interesting guy because he's not like an angry guy.

00:13:25.000 Mark was done.

00:13:26.000 He was so exhausted.

00:13:27.000 But Maurice never tried to close the deal.

00:13:30.000 Never tried to finish him off.

00:13:31.000 Just fought real smart.

00:13:32.000 But was fucking with him and beating his ass.

00:13:34.000 Some guys are like that, right?

00:13:35.000 Guys with real nice personalities.

00:13:37.000 You look like a Pacquiao.

00:13:38.000 He doesn't want to hurt anyone.

00:13:40.000 Maurice loves to play around.

00:13:41.000 He's a silly goose.

00:13:43.000 But Conan just looked like...

00:13:45.000 I was watching him as you were taking pictures.

00:13:47.000 And I looked at him.

00:13:47.000 And he's so wide.

00:13:48.000 And he looked like just an old...

00:13:51.000 Like, lion with barnacles on him.

00:13:53.000 Just sitting there.

00:13:54.000 Not Sony on the vest.

00:13:55.000 No, not at all.

00:13:56.000 He just looked like...

00:13:57.000 Are we still recording?

00:14:13.000 Yeah.

00:14:13.000 We got a little computer issue, ladies and gentlemen.

00:14:15.000 Are we still on Ustream?

00:14:17.000 Yep, yep.

00:14:17.000 Okay.

00:14:18.000 We had a little issue.

00:14:19.000 Oh, Dustin Ortiz with a nice straight left.

00:14:21.000 This is a great fucking fight.

00:14:23.000 Meanwhile, we're talking about all sorts of shit from the past and Scoggins and Ortiz are doing a war.

00:14:28.000 Having a crazy fight.

00:14:29.000 Oh, back kick.

00:14:33.000 This is a great fight.

00:14:37.000 Scoggins takes him down again.

00:14:39.000 Hey, Brendan, thanks for making me do a wheel kick in my jeans this morning at 10 in the morning.

00:14:43.000 That was a lot of fun in front of a bunch of people.

00:14:44.000 That was good for you, man.

00:14:45.000 Yeah.

00:14:46.000 That was someone else's idea, though.

00:14:47.000 Yeah, that's real good.

00:14:48.000 I had to hold the thing.

00:14:49.000 What are you talking about?

00:14:49.000 What was good about it?

00:14:51.000 Nothing.

00:14:52.000 Nothing.

00:14:54.000 I thought Cal was going to blow his asshole out throwing this kick.

00:14:57.000 Exactly.

00:14:57.000 These jeans were super tight, too.

00:15:00.000 How often do you throw kicks?

00:15:02.000 Like once a year?

00:15:03.000 Actually, since I've been boxing, I kick the bag now, but nothing like that.

00:15:07.000 I don't throw wheel kicks.

00:15:08.000 I had no business doing that.

00:15:09.000 Some fan demanded it.

00:15:10.000 Head and arm, head and arm.

00:15:12.000 Yeah, head and arm choke.

00:15:13.000 Oh, boy.

00:15:16.000 Stuck in half guard, though.

00:15:17.000 Very hard to finish from half guard.

00:15:19.000 Look at this.

00:15:20.000 Dustin rolls over.

00:15:21.000 Oh, Scoggin stays on him.

00:15:23.000 Unbelievable fight, man.

00:15:24.000 This is why I love little guys, man.

00:15:25.000 The transitions, I love it.

00:15:27.000 You don't see heavyweights moving like this.

00:15:29.000 Wish I was little.

00:15:30.000 I was talking to Callum the way here.

00:15:31.000 I wish I was tiny, man.

00:15:33.000 Callum goes, no you don't.

00:15:34.000 It's good to be the king of the beach.

00:15:36.000 Bitch, I don't care about the beach.

00:15:38.000 Fuck the beach.

00:15:38.000 You say you don't care about the beach.

00:15:40.000 I won't be in the octagon.

00:15:40.000 I'm rolling around with everyone.

00:15:41.000 You say that.

00:15:43.000 Meanwhile, sitting next to you, wedged in those little seats on Southwest, I wish you were smaller.

00:15:48.000 Have you ever thought about trying to go to 205?

00:15:51.000 Yeah, I have.

00:15:51.000 I've thought about it before.

00:15:53.000 Towards the end of my career, I'll do it.

00:15:55.000 I'll do one cut to it.

00:15:57.000 Everyone seems to do that.

00:15:58.000 It's like the older phase of the guys.

00:15:59.000 They make the cut.

00:16:03.000 Right now, I'm 250 pounds.

00:16:07.000 That's a really tough cut.

00:16:09.000 Everyone always asks me that, though.

00:16:11.000 You're about 230 fight week, though, right?

00:16:14.000 235. When you think about that, you're not watching your diet at all.

00:16:17.000 You're eating healthy, but you're not...

00:16:19.000 Like, think about some of the shit that some of these guys do.

00:16:22.000 Like, um, you know, like a guy like Weidman.

00:16:25.000 What does Weidman walk around at before he tries to make 205 or 185?

00:16:28.000 He's a big fucking guy.

00:16:30.000 Uh, yeah.

00:16:32.000 Yeah, he is.

00:16:33.000 This is the difference, though.

00:16:34.000 A lot of those guys get crazy out of shape in between fights.

00:16:37.000 Like, crazy out of shape.

00:16:38.000 I don't.

00:16:40.000 I don't put on tons of weight.

00:16:42.000 Who puts on the most weight in between fights?

00:16:44.000 Well, he used to be Rumble Johnson.

00:16:46.000 Yeah, Anthony Johnson.

00:16:47.000 I've never seen anything like it.

00:16:48.000 He was walking around at 235. He sucked down to 170. We were doing this movie and I looked at him and I said, what do you weigh right now?

00:16:55.000 He goes, about 235. I said, you're going to make 170 in two months?

00:16:59.000 He goes, I'll make it.

00:17:00.000 I think it was six weeks.

00:17:01.000 This fight is fucking madness.

00:17:02.000 This fight is awesome.

00:17:04.000 We should really pay attention to this fight because it's so good.

00:17:06.000 It is really good.

00:17:07.000 It's a crazy scramble.

00:17:12.000 Dustin Ortiz is no joke, man.

00:17:14.000 He's on the map now.

00:17:15.000 Win, lose, or draw, he's on the map.

00:17:18.000 Because this is a great fight.

00:17:20.000 I like how this guy's protecting his knee.

00:17:21.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:17:23.000 Go for the knee bar.

00:17:25.000 Look at that.

00:17:26.000 Beautiful.

00:17:27.000 How he switched it.

00:17:28.000 Yeah, nice.

00:17:28.000 And wound up on top.

00:17:29.000 Unlock his legs.

00:17:30.000 Pressure on him, man.

00:17:31.000 Yeah.

00:17:33.000 Well, he's strong.

00:17:33.000 Ortiz is very strong.

00:17:37.000 This is great stuff.

00:17:38.000 Look, he's covering Scoggins' face.

00:17:40.000 That's a sneaky fucking move, man.

00:17:43.000 You know, we were talking about this the other day, that Brian Carraway fishhook incident.

00:17:47.000 That's dark, man.

00:17:49.000 That's dark.

00:17:50.000 That's frowned upon.

00:17:51.000 I can't believe how long he held that fishhook in.

00:17:54.000 That's not by accident.

00:17:55.000 No.

00:17:56.000 I think he said it was a genuine accident, right?

00:17:59.000 Well, that's what he said.

00:18:00.000 I don't want to call him a liar, but I think I just did.

00:18:04.000 I like Carraway.

00:18:05.000 I like him a lot.

00:18:06.000 I mean, he might have not even known he was doing it because he was so ferocious in the heat of the moment trying to finish that show.

00:18:11.000 But that's a crazy fucking...

00:18:13.000 Come on, bro.

00:18:14.000 I'm trying to be nice.

00:18:15.000 I know.

00:18:15.000 That was a straight fish hook.

00:18:17.000 That was a straight elementary yard...

00:18:20.000 Fish hook.

00:18:21.000 Complete, total fish hook.

00:18:22.000 How long did he hold it for?

00:18:23.000 Five seconds?

00:18:24.000 More, maybe?

00:18:25.000 Right?

00:18:26.000 Just yanking him back?

00:18:27.000 Maybe five seconds?

00:18:28.000 A solid five seconds.

00:18:29.000 Yeah, like five seconds is a long time.

00:18:31.000 For anything.

00:18:32.000 One, two, three...

00:18:35.000 You know, that's a long time.

00:18:37.000 And he's got his fingers deep in this guy's mouth.

00:18:40.000 And he's pulling them towards him to try to get the choke.

00:18:43.000 Playing for keeps.

00:18:44.000 Are they really doing a Purge, too?

00:18:46.000 Yep.

00:18:47.000 Starring one of my best friends, Frank Grillo.

00:18:49.000 Did you see Purge 1, though?

00:18:51.000 Oh, of course I didn't.

00:18:53.000 Man, I kind of like him.

00:18:55.000 I can't wait for that, bro.

00:18:56.000 I can't wait.

00:18:57.000 Purge 1 started as a small movie.

00:18:59.000 I think they made the movie for something really tiny, like a million dollars.

00:19:03.000 Whatever they spent, it was too much.

00:19:04.000 It was so popular that Ethan Hawke made $7 million on that movie.

00:19:09.000 Why are you blowing up Ethan Hawke's spot?

00:19:11.000 I'm just telling you what he made.

00:19:12.000 People are going to hit him up for loans now.

00:19:14.000 There you go, baby.

00:19:16.000 I need some cash.

00:19:17.000 Yo, Ethan, man, I have this independent project.

00:19:20.000 How many guys come to you with independent projects they're doing?

00:19:24.000 Three a day, including emails.

00:19:26.000 Really?

00:19:26.000 You get it too, Joe?

00:19:28.000 Yeah, I get dudes who want me to help them produce their animated features.

00:19:32.000 Animated features?

00:19:33.000 Animated things, movies, TV shows.

00:19:37.000 A good friend fucking gave me an ear beating, a ferocious ear beating the other day about some reality show.

00:19:42.000 He's trying to put together about him being, you know, you're in the TV business.

00:19:46.000 I go, how am I in the TV business?

00:19:47.000 What the fuck are you talking about?

00:19:48.000 What does that mean?

00:19:48.000 Well, you have that TV show, man.

00:19:50.000 You know, you're in the TV business.

00:19:51.000 I'm trying to put together this show.

00:19:53.000 Well, find somebody who actually is like a TV producer.

00:19:55.000 I want you to help me connect with me.

00:19:57.000 No, I don't have time.

00:19:58.000 I don't have time.

00:19:59.000 This is the difference between me and you guys.

00:20:01.000 No one hits me up about doing that stuff.

00:20:02.000 I get dick pics.

00:20:04.000 That's what I do.

00:20:04.000 I get dick pics on Instagram and Twitter.

00:20:07.000 Who won this fight?

00:20:08.000 I get long.

00:20:08.000 It's tough, man.

00:20:09.000 Get some volume here, Jamie.

00:20:10.000 It's a tough one to call.

00:20:12.000 I think you're going to give it to your boy on the right.

00:20:14.000 Oh.

00:20:16.000 I bet they give it to Dustin.

00:20:19.000 Wow.

00:20:19.000 He just brought the pressure, man.

00:20:21.000 Take that.

00:20:21.000 Wow.

00:20:22.000 Dustin Ortiz with the split decision.

00:20:24.000 Solid beer.

00:20:25.000 Wow.

00:20:25.000 Scoggins is very bummed out, man.

00:20:28.000 Of course.

00:20:29.000 Wow.

00:20:31.000 Wow.

00:20:31.000 Wow, you know what?

00:20:32.000 We were talking so much, we didn't really score that.

00:20:37.000 That's fair.

00:20:38.000 I don't know if it's fair.

00:20:39.000 I'd have to watch it.

00:20:40.000 No, I'm saying that's fair.

00:20:41.000 You're saying we're talking so much.

00:20:43.000 I always say that.

00:20:44.000 Like, sometimes during a fight, like while we're doing commentary, like I talked about it with Jimmy Smith.

00:20:50.000 The last fight companion when you motherfuckers weren't around.

00:20:54.000 Good schedules, dawg.

00:20:55.000 Good schedules, man.

00:20:56.000 Not committed.

00:20:57.000 Busy, son.

00:20:59.000 But Jimmy Smith was great, and Ian McCall was on it, too.

00:21:02.000 It was really fun.

00:21:03.000 It was good, huh?

00:21:04.000 But Jimmy was talking about they make him score at Bellator.

00:21:06.000 They make him score the rounds.

00:21:08.000 Oh, that's dope.

00:21:09.000 Yeah, but they make him score the rounds while he's doing commentary.

00:21:11.000 And I'm like, man, I don't know about that.

00:21:13.000 That's tough.

00:21:14.000 I don't do it.

00:21:15.000 Me, personally, I could do it, but I don't want to do it.

00:21:19.000 I say it during the podcast.

00:21:21.000 I say, you know, I think this guy won the fight or won the rounds, but the reality is, if you want to really call the fight correctly, you have to shut your mouth.

00:21:30.000 You're still scoring it boxing-wise, right?

00:21:32.000 I mean, when you Well, it's a 10-point must system, but it's really dumb because you're working within a flawed system.

00:21:38.000 Right, yeah.

00:21:39.000 But the real problem with that flawed system is a round in boxing is three minutes, and there's a bunch of them.

00:21:45.000 A regular fight is 10 rounds.

00:21:48.000 Non-title fights, 10 fucking rounds.

00:21:50.000 Title fight is 12 rounds.

00:21:51.000 In an MMA fight, big difference.

00:21:54.000 Three rounds, only three rounds, and there could be a 10-9 round where one guy just beats the shit out of a guy.

00:22:01.000 And then another 10-9 round where it's like a toss-up.

00:22:04.000 That doesn't make any sense to me.

00:22:05.000 Why is that?

00:22:06.000 Because it sucks.

00:22:07.000 Because the system sucks.

00:22:07.000 The sport's so new, too.

00:22:09.000 We stole a system.

00:22:11.000 We stole a judging system from boxing.

00:22:15.000 Because there just isn't a criteria for somebody keeping pressure on, holding position on somebody, takedowns.

00:22:21.000 Take down defense?

00:22:22.000 How about take down defense?

00:22:23.000 How about that?

00:22:24.000 That should go a long way.

00:22:25.000 How about submission attempts?

00:22:26.000 Yeah.

00:22:26.000 Submission defense?

00:22:28.000 Yeah.

00:22:28.000 All that stuff.

00:22:29.000 And there should be like a scale of like 1 to 10 of how close a submission is.

00:22:33.000 Yes.

00:22:34.000 Okay, like Scoggins and Ortiz.

00:22:36.000 Perfect example.

00:22:37.000 That was a fucking 9. That armbar was a fucking 9. 9 and a half.

00:22:41.000 That was about as close as you can get to not getting tapped.

00:22:43.000 You have to take that into consideration.

00:22:45.000 Yeah, he got out of it.

00:22:46.000 Not mad at her at all.

00:22:49.000 She's probably 14, bro.

00:22:51.000 No.

00:22:51.000 Whatever.

00:22:52.000 She's solid 24. She's already tattooed up.

00:22:56.000 I can't believe that.

00:22:56.000 She can't be 14. That's not legal.

00:22:58.000 I'll tell you what was fun, though, at the expo.

00:23:00.000 I'll tell you what was so fun.

00:23:02.000 The questions I was getting about Arlovsky.

00:23:04.000 Oh, that was amazing.

00:23:05.000 Here's the guy we were in the elevator with.

00:23:07.000 It was exhausting, man.

00:23:09.000 Dude, what happened?

00:23:10.000 Although I had you, man.

00:23:11.000 And I do this.

00:23:12.000 Then I'm finally out of there.

00:23:13.000 I'm like, alright, this was a good day.

00:23:14.000 This is fun.

00:23:16.000 Last interview.

00:23:17.000 I go on some show.

00:23:18.000 I'm not going to call him out.

00:23:20.000 This dude, I've had an issue with him before.

00:23:21.000 I did not want to do this radio interview because of this.

00:23:23.000 So I do this interview and he goes, yeah, man, that fight was awful.

00:23:28.000 That sucked.

00:23:29.000 Excuse me, sir?

00:23:30.000 You're 300 pounds.

00:23:32.000 You've never fought in your life.

00:23:33.000 You can't talk to people like that, man.

00:23:35.000 I will never come on your show again.

00:23:37.000 Did you say that to him?

00:23:39.000 Oh, when we were done, he's like, listen, man, I'm going to give you my...

00:23:41.000 Don't bother.

00:23:42.000 Do not bother, man.

00:23:43.000 I was like, I'm good.

00:23:44.000 You know me, I don't like confrontation.

00:23:47.000 Right.

00:23:47.000 So I was just like, oh, I'm good, man.

00:23:49.000 I just walked away.

00:23:50.000 It's crazy to me.

00:23:51.000 Crazy to me, man.

00:23:53.000 That fight was terrible.

00:23:54.000 I said, that's fine.

00:23:55.000 Who'd you have winning?

00:23:56.000 He goes, oh, you for sure won that.

00:23:58.000 I go, thanks, man.

00:23:59.000 You know what it is, man?

00:24:00.000 It's that sports guy radio bullshit.

00:24:03.000 There's a certain amount of sports guy radio bullshit that's leaked into MMA. They think that they can be cool.

00:24:11.000 Well, there's no repercussions.

00:24:13.000 You can talk to me however you want.

00:24:15.000 I can't do anything.

00:24:15.000 I'll get in trouble.

00:24:16.000 Obviously, I'm not going to snap your neck.

00:24:17.000 I'd love to.

00:24:18.000 I'm not going to.

00:24:19.000 I can't do anything.

00:24:20.000 Not only that, it's just like, can't you talk about a fight without being disrespectful to the guy that was fighting?

00:24:29.000 It seemed like you guys knew each other.

00:24:32.000 You were both very tentative.

00:24:34.000 There was a lot on the line for both of you.

00:24:36.000 Arlovski looked particularly nervous.

00:24:38.000 What was frustrating about the fight, too?

00:24:40.000 You could talk about a fight.

00:24:42.000 For sure.

00:24:43.000 Anybody who's ever competed before, if you've had more than a few fights, there's going to be some that just go off.

00:24:50.000 You might be sick.

00:24:51.000 You might be injured.

00:24:53.000 You can't think that every fight is going to be great.

00:24:57.000 They're just not going to be.

00:24:58.000 You're going to have shitty ones.

00:25:00.000 Things happen.

00:25:01.000 But the thing is, when I talked to him, I was like, yeah, on the air, I go, did that fight suck?

00:25:07.000 100%.

00:25:07.000 Should I have won?

00:25:08.000 Yeah.

00:25:08.000 Do I need to do things different?

00:25:10.000 Yes.

00:25:10.000 I was banking on, just like I'm used to when I used to train with him, an aggressive Orlovsky, which I hate that we're talking about this again.

00:25:18.000 However, it just shit happens.

00:25:19.000 But Orlovsky would come forward aggressive.

00:25:22.000 And I'm a back foot counter fighter.

00:25:24.000 That's how I get my takedowns, my big combination, stuff like that.

00:25:27.000 So when he's not being aggressive and approaching, I should have adapted and I didn't.

00:25:32.000 So you get a shitty fight.

00:25:33.000 That's what happened.

00:25:34.000 Straight up.

00:25:34.000 Fight sucked.

00:25:35.000 However, I won the fight.

00:25:36.000 So this guy, when you were doing this interview, was he like...

00:25:42.000 No, listen, obviously I could take his job if I wanted to on air.

00:25:47.000 I just destroyed him on air with everything, fight talk, everything.

00:25:51.000 So he was a little defensive already.

00:25:53.000 And I'm like, yeah, man, that fight sucks.

00:25:55.000 So it gave him a chance to jump in.

00:25:57.000 Oh, that fight was terrible.

00:25:59.000 Oh, so before that, oh, so there was like a build-up already where he was like kind of like...

00:26:04.000 A little bit, and then I even told him, and then he was like, well, what's next?

00:26:07.000 I said, I have no idea, man.

00:26:09.000 This is a weird fight.

00:26:10.000 You know, what they're going to do with me, I don't know, because technically, really, I won the fight.

00:26:15.000 They gave Arlovsky a main event against Bigfoot, so obviously they're not too mad at him.

00:26:19.000 So with me, I'm not sure.

00:26:20.000 I said, who do you think I should fight?

00:26:23.000 And he had, you know, he couldn't come up with anything.

00:26:26.000 He had nothing.

00:26:28.000 What did you think about the Strew situation, man?

00:26:30.000 That's kind of crazy.

00:26:31.000 Heartbroken.

00:26:32.000 I was looking forward to that fight.

00:26:33.000 And honestly...

00:26:35.000 I think it was almost a, I don't want to say a blessing in disguise, but I don't think Shreve would have won that fight.

00:26:40.000 Really?

00:26:41.000 You're off?

00:26:42.000 I don't.

00:26:42.000 Wow.

00:26:43.000 I don't at all.

00:26:43.000 And I think the time away, they wanted to give him more of an easier fight, a guy where he could get his bearings back, get used to the octagon and the lights.

00:26:53.000 It's a different animal, man, when you haven't fought in a while.

00:26:55.000 Instead, Mitchell calls him out.

00:26:57.000 Let's explain what happened.

00:27:00.000 No, go ahead.

00:27:00.000 You got this thing.

00:27:01.000 For folks who don't know what happened, Stefan Struve is a really tall fighter.

00:27:06.000 Seven foot.

00:27:07.000 Yeah, he's a skyscraper, they call him.

00:27:09.000 Legit seven feet.

00:27:11.000 And doing well in the UFC, has some pretty big wins, and then all of a sudden he has a heart condition, like a serious, legit heart condition.

00:27:17.000 They don't know if he's ever going to be able to fight again.

00:27:20.000 So he takes some time off.

00:27:23.000 I don't know what they did to try to fix his situation.

00:27:26.000 He had surgery.

00:27:26.000 He had surgery on his heart?

00:27:28.000 Mm-hmm.

00:27:28.000 Oh my god.

00:27:28.000 He had surgery with these valves and stuff.

00:27:30.000 Crazy stuff.

00:27:31.000 Fuck.

00:27:32.000 In his hometown.

00:27:32.000 He had to see all these doctors before one was like, yeah, let's do this.

00:27:38.000 So anyway, he has his surgery.

00:27:40.000 He takes how much time off?

00:27:41.000 Quite a while.

00:27:42.000 Quite a while, yeah.

00:27:43.000 More than a year.

00:27:44.000 Yes.

00:27:44.000 Oh, for sure.

00:27:45.000 So he's off for a long time and he's in the locker room getting ready for his fight and his heart starts beating like really fast and he has like an almost fainting spell.

00:27:58.000 Essentially, his body goes limp.

00:28:00.000 And they go, yeah, that's about it for you, buddy.

00:28:03.000 And they pull him off the card an hour before you're supposed to fight.

00:28:08.000 Can you imagine if that happened inside the octagon?

00:28:10.000 They announce his name and this giraffe passes out on the side of the cage, like a zoo animal.

00:28:21.000 Skyscraper!

00:28:21.000 Actually, before, everybody's taking the steps up to the octagon.

00:28:25.000 Boom!

00:28:26.000 Seven foot?

00:28:27.000 No one's catching him, son.

00:28:29.000 He's breaking Ariane's neck when he falls.

00:28:31.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:28:32.000 You don't want that.

00:28:33.000 That's happened plenty of times on a basketball court where somebody didn't live.

00:28:36.000 You can't play around.

00:28:38.000 Big guys have a real hard time.

00:28:40.000 Those really tall, tall, tall guys.

00:28:42.000 There's a condition, and I can't remember the name of it, where people dropped dead of a heart attack.

00:28:48.000 Well, they don't live very long.

00:28:49.000 Oh, yeah.

00:28:50.000 Those seven-foot dudes.

00:28:52.000 Well, he has two strikes against him.

00:28:54.000 One, name the oldest fighter you know.

00:28:56.000 There's not a lot of grandpas out there with cauliflower.

00:28:58.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:28:59.000 There's just not.

00:29:00.000 And then he's seven foot tall with a little nub.

00:29:02.000 I made that up.

00:29:03.000 I don't know if he has a little nub.

00:29:04.000 A little nub for a dick, you're saying?

00:29:05.000 Yes.

00:29:06.000 Why'd you say that?

00:29:06.000 I don't know.

00:29:07.000 How do you dare you?

00:29:08.000 I have no idea.

00:29:08.000 You calm down right now.

00:29:10.000 The man's already having a bad day.

00:29:11.000 I know, I know.

00:29:12.000 Listen, I love Strew, man.

00:29:14.000 With a little nub.

00:29:14.000 So he's seven foot and he's a fighter.

00:29:16.000 So yeah, he's on the back nine of life for sure.

00:29:19.000 That's the kind of insult the guy with a giant dick just throws around right now.

00:29:23.000 All willy-nilly.

00:29:26.000 He's got a little nub.

00:29:27.000 You called him a giraffe, and now he's got a little nub.

00:29:30.000 Well, giraffe is a perfect way to describe him because he's so long and gangly.

00:29:34.000 I think Mitrone would have beat him.

00:29:36.000 Really?

00:29:36.000 I do.

00:29:37.000 I think it was a horrible matchup for him.

00:29:38.000 Because we have the same manager.

00:29:40.000 He was telling me, he's like, yeah...

00:29:43.000 Because when I was looking for a fight before Arlovsky, before the Hunt fight fell off, they're like, Struve's going to be back, man.

00:29:47.000 I'm like, I don't want to fight the guy coming back from heart surgery.

00:29:51.000 Everyone's going to hate me, man.

00:29:52.000 If he dies.

00:29:53.000 Exactly.

00:29:54.000 I'm like, I don't want him dying on me.

00:29:56.000 I don't want to be known as that guy.

00:29:57.000 That's a good point, because did you see the Justin Gagey-Nick Newell fight?

00:30:02.000 I did.

00:30:03.000 I heard Gagey just beat him.

00:30:04.000 Nick Newell has one arm.

00:30:06.000 He's a one-armed fighter, and everybody's rooting for him because he's a one-armed fighter.

00:30:10.000 Everyone roots for him.

00:30:11.000 That Gaethje kid's a bad motherfucker.

00:30:13.000 He is.

00:30:13.000 He's an animal.

00:30:14.000 I started with Gaethje.

00:30:15.000 Well, Gaethje, his first day in the gym, I was there.

00:30:18.000 We had the same head coach in Denver.

00:30:19.000 He's an animal.

00:30:20.000 He's an animal.

00:30:21.000 All-American wrestler.

00:30:22.000 Finished seventh at nationals.

00:30:24.000 Brutal striker.

00:30:25.000 Brutal striker.

00:30:26.000 And Nick Newell's tough as shit.

00:30:27.000 I didn't see the fight.

00:30:29.000 I know Gaethje just manhandled him, right?

00:30:30.000 Beat him up.

00:30:31.000 Just beat his ass.

00:30:31.000 He's got one arm.

00:30:32.000 Yeah, but that's the weird thing.

00:30:34.000 It's like you're watching a guy beat a guy up who has one arm.

00:30:37.000 And Newell's very tough.

00:30:39.000 No doubt about it.

00:30:40.000 Newell's very good.

00:30:41.000 He's very tough.

00:30:42.000 Now, let's say you've never seen MMA before.

00:30:44.000 You're flipping through the channels.

00:30:46.000 You're like, oh, check it out, MMA. Hold up.

00:30:48.000 Yeah.

00:30:49.000 This guy has one arm.

00:30:50.000 Getting his ass whooped.

00:30:52.000 What is this?

00:30:52.000 Make a wish?

00:30:53.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:30:53.000 Like, this isn't cool.

00:30:54.000 And then again, if a guy with one arm beats you, that's even more of a mind fuck.

00:30:59.000 Yeah.

00:30:59.000 Do you guys beat a guy with one fucking arm?

00:31:01.000 I remember when in high school we would wrestle guys sometimes who were deaf or blind.

00:31:06.000 It was always an interesting thing.

00:31:07.000 Well, that's different.

00:31:08.000 I had a buddy who thought he was going to be the next frickin', you know, I wrestled a couple guys who were deaf, and I wrestled a couple guys who were blind.

00:31:22.000 Deaf, they can see you, they grab ahold of you.

00:31:27.000 One arm's tough.

00:31:28.000 One arm's tough.

00:31:30.000 It's a good question.

00:31:30.000 It's a very good question.

00:31:31.000 You know, there's a dude who's like the best pool player in the world who's deaf.

00:31:35.000 And when he plays pool, he turns his hearing aid off.

00:31:37.000 He doesn't hear shit.

00:31:38.000 You can talk all the shit you want.

00:31:40.000 Just goes into a zone and just fires balls.

00:31:42.000 See, that's an advantage.

00:31:43.000 That's an advantage.

00:31:43.000 Somebody was talking about how...

00:31:44.000 I remember Timmy was saying, with wrestlers at least, they can't hear themselves breathe, which has an effect.

00:31:52.000 Deaf wrestlers?

00:31:52.000 Yeah.

00:31:53.000 Which I never thought about.

00:31:54.000 Has a good effect or a bad effect?

00:31:56.000 I guess a good effect in terms of it doesn't get psychological.

00:31:59.000 They don't freak out?

00:31:59.000 Yeah, they don't freak out.

00:32:00.000 You don't know you're fatigued?

00:32:01.000 I don't know about that.

00:32:02.000 You might be onto something because when I listen to music and I do conditioning, when I listen to music, I take it off.

00:32:08.000 I'm all, dang, I'm driving, son.

00:32:10.000 I'm about to pass out.

00:32:11.000 Put the music back on.

00:32:12.000 I'm like, oh, I'm straight.

00:32:13.000 But when you're running and listening to music, you don't realize how tired you are.

00:32:16.000 You're just sweating.

00:32:17.000 You feel good.

00:32:17.000 Yeah, I think that you get better cardio in when you have the music jam.

00:32:22.000 Matter of fact, I've seen a clinical study where music does help your endurance and stuff like that.

00:32:26.000 It seems like it would.

00:32:27.000 It seems like it would help you if you're doing strength and conditioning workouts.

00:32:31.000 I have the Tiger guys on a loop for me.

00:32:34.000 Dun, dun, dun!

00:32:35.000 It's the Eye of the Tiger!

00:32:37.000 And I bench, I bench hard.

00:32:39.000 You know, the Eye of the Tiger guy is the same guy that is the Bud Light guy.

00:32:44.000 Bud Light.

00:32:45.000 You remember that?

00:32:46.000 No, really?

00:32:46.000 Yeah, he would sing it.

00:32:48.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:49.000 They would have these funny things.

00:32:52.000 To you, Bud Light guy.

00:32:53.000 To you, Mr. Couch Carry Guy.

00:32:56.000 Oh, yeah, that's him?

00:32:57.000 Mr. Couch Karaoke Guy!

00:33:00.000 He was a really nice guy, man.

00:33:02.000 He was the guy from Survivor, the lead singer of Survivor.

00:33:06.000 He was with us on the Maxim Comedy Tour when I did it with Charlie Murphy and John Heffron.

00:33:10.000 Super nice guy.

00:33:11.000 Great voice, too.

00:33:13.000 Real quick, we got heavyweights up right now.

00:33:15.000 We were in the elevator with this guy.

00:33:18.000 He's a legit giant.

00:33:20.000 Much bigger than you, Brennan.

00:33:21.000 He's got Knockout King tattooed on his chest.

00:33:25.000 It's kind of scary, really.

00:33:27.000 He was just hanging out.

00:33:28.000 We were like, what are you doing?

00:33:29.000 He goes, I'm fighting tonight.

00:33:30.000 That's scary.

00:33:31.000 This girl's ass is scary.

00:33:33.000 This Brazilian chick, good googly moogly.

00:33:35.000 Really?

00:33:36.000 They had international fight week, so they had the Brazilian girls walk up and the American girls walk up.

00:33:41.000 And someone needs to scrape some DNA off those Brazilian girls and clone that shit.

00:33:46.000 Here, I'll do it.

00:33:48.000 Clone.

00:33:49.000 They can cross the desert without the water.

00:33:50.000 He's loading up a heavy right hand from downtown.

00:33:53.000 Yeah, whatever they have that grows asses like that in Brazil, please preserve it.

00:33:58.000 Don't let it go out like the dodo bird.

00:34:03.000 I'll tell you what it is.

00:34:04.000 It's a mix of Spanish and black.

00:34:07.000 And everything.

00:34:09.000 Well, it's such a melting pot.

00:34:10.000 Bro, they had all the ring card girls.

00:34:12.000 I went into the green room, and I was literally like, fans back there, I had to shut them down.

00:34:18.000 I'm like, just give me a second.

00:34:19.000 I'm literally trying to focus over here.

00:34:21.000 Oh, how about this?

00:34:22.000 You know, I change, and I have to wear a suit.

00:34:26.000 You know, I wear this custom tailored suit to the UFC. Your boy Goldie wears a three-piece.

00:34:29.000 Yeah.

00:34:30.000 Guess where I change?

00:34:31.000 I change the same room where the girls change.

00:34:33.000 Ooh.

00:34:33.000 So we're all buddies.

00:34:35.000 Boner patrol.

00:34:36.000 No, no.

00:34:37.000 All friends here.

00:34:37.000 I'm fucking professional as shit.

00:34:39.000 That's true.

00:34:40.000 You keep your eyes on the floor.

00:34:42.000 Do you think I ever don't flex when I'm in there, though?

00:34:44.000 First, you're sucking it in.

00:34:46.000 You know you do.

00:34:47.000 Do I ever let go of my gut and just stick it out like I'm pregnant?

00:34:51.000 Listen, bro.

00:34:51.000 I was just in Mexico for three days walking around the beach with no shirt on.

00:34:55.000 My stomach hurt.

00:34:56.000 I was holding it in the whole time doing everything I could.

00:34:59.000 I got news for you, pal.

00:35:00.000 People let themselves go.

00:35:01.000 If you hold it in, it doesn't matter.

00:35:03.000 Hey, bro.

00:35:04.000 You don't know.

00:35:04.000 Look what you're packing.

00:35:05.000 I got a beautiful body.

00:35:08.000 Derek Lewis.

00:35:10.000 Derek Lewis has got...

00:35:12.000 Yeah, we should talk about the fights here.

00:35:14.000 Guto Innocente.

00:35:16.000 That's his name.

00:35:17.000 I've never even heard of this guy, Guto.

00:35:19.000 Me neither.

00:35:20.000 I think I have no heavyweights.

00:35:22.000 He's got some old school trauma.

00:35:23.000 I was talking to Derek on the elevator.

00:35:25.000 No idea who he is.

00:35:26.000 I was like, what's up, bro?

00:35:27.000 How are you doing?

00:35:27.000 Because Brian wouldn't stop...

00:35:29.000 Freaking fantasize about his big ass body.

00:35:31.000 I was staring at him and I go, are you a lawyer?

00:35:33.000 So I said to him.

00:35:34.000 He goes, I'm fighting tonight.

00:35:35.000 I said, light heavyweight?

00:35:36.000 He goes, heavyweight bro.

00:35:37.000 I said, oh damn.

00:35:38.000 No, you said, what weight?

00:35:39.000 I go, 135 Brendan, good question.

00:35:42.000 Like literally a foot taller than you.

00:35:44.000 I just didn't know him.

00:35:45.000 What can you do?

00:35:45.000 Foot taller than Brandon?

00:35:46.000 No.

00:35:46.000 He's bigger.

00:35:47.000 He's bigger.

00:35:47.000 He's a legit 6'5".

00:35:49.000 No.

00:35:50.000 Yes, he was.

00:35:50.000 He might be at sandals on.

00:35:52.000 A lot bigger than you.

00:35:52.000 Yeah.

00:35:53.000 Thicker for sure.

00:35:54.000 Brian's kind of fucking with you.

00:35:55.000 Oh, shit.

00:35:56.000 Big shot.

00:35:57.000 Brian's kind of fucking with you.

00:35:58.000 Well, I just...

00:35:58.000 He needs to be careful of this guy.

00:36:00.000 Do you hear what I'm saying?

00:36:00.000 That's all I'm trying to say.

00:36:01.000 You gotta be careful of Derrick Lewis.

00:36:03.000 He's trying to get me fired up.

00:36:04.000 I'm protecting him.

00:36:05.000 I'm protecting my friend from Derrick Lewis.

00:36:06.000 You know the last time he did this?

00:36:08.000 You know the last time he did this on our podcast?

00:36:11.000 He started talking about Frank Mir.

00:36:12.000 And Frank Mir is one of my all-time favorite fighters.

00:36:15.000 I love the guy.

00:36:16.000 I didn't challenge him.

00:36:17.000 You started talking shit about him and me and him fighting.

00:36:19.000 So I'm like, I'd love to fight Frank Mir.

00:36:21.000 Sign me up, man.

00:36:22.000 That'd be amazing.

00:36:22.000 It'd be an honor.

00:36:24.000 Sure enough, headlines come out, Schaub wants to fight Frank Mayer, calls him out.

00:36:27.000 It's all because of Calen talking shit, pushing your buttons.

00:36:30.000 That's what it is, for sure.

00:36:30.000 Brendan, how tall are you?

00:36:32.000 6'4".

00:36:32.000 You're taller.

00:36:34.000 And Derek Lewis?

00:36:35.000 Yes.

00:36:35.000 Derek Lewis is 6'3".

00:36:37.000 So shut your mouth, Calum.

00:36:37.000 He looked a lot taller than you.

00:36:38.000 Did he not or did he?

00:36:41.000 I didn't think so.

00:36:42.000 He did to Calum because he's black.

00:36:45.000 Every person we walked by, Calum would be like, God, that guy's tough.

00:36:48.000 I bet he's tough.

00:36:49.000 I went, Brian, if you're going to do that all day, we're at a fucking UFC expo.

00:36:53.000 They all are.

00:36:54.000 We're at a UFC. I was about to freak out, bro.

00:36:56.000 They all are to me.

00:36:56.000 No, bro, I was about to freak out.

00:36:58.000 We go in the green room.

00:37:00.000 There's Anthony Pettis in there, Joey Benavidez, you know, Chuck Liddell.

00:37:03.000 Brian goes, bro, there are some tough guys around here.

00:37:07.000 That's what he said.

00:37:08.000 Oh, shit, he's out!

00:37:09.000 He's out!

00:37:10.000 Oh, beautiful.

00:37:12.000 Beautiful job.

00:37:13.000 In the transition, Derek Lewis cracked him with a right hand.

00:37:16.000 What's he doing, though?

00:37:16.000 Easy, Derek.

00:37:17.000 That's a terrible celebration.

00:37:19.000 That was like a donkey.

00:37:20.000 Oh, my God.

00:37:21.000 That dude's gone.

00:37:22.000 He just goes, what happened?

00:37:24.000 What happened?

00:37:24.000 Yeah, been there.

00:37:25.000 Did he say the bell?

00:37:26.000 Yeah, be careful, Brennan.

00:37:27.000 Did he say belt?

00:37:28.000 Brennan, just buy him lunch.

00:37:30.000 Oh, look at this.

00:37:30.000 He's doing the belt thing.

00:37:32.000 Yeah, you don't even want to be in the same room as Cain Velasquez, dude.

00:37:35.000 I was in the same room.

00:37:36.000 I like the confidence, though.

00:37:37.000 I was in the same room as Cain Velasquez.

00:37:39.000 That's...

00:37:41.000 Far stretch, my man.

00:37:42.000 Phil Barone, when he knocked out Dave Manet, he's like, I'm the best ever!

00:37:46.000 Best ever!

00:37:47.000 I'm the best ever!

00:37:48.000 He was so fired up.

00:37:49.000 I love it.

00:37:49.000 That, by the way, is one of the best ever knockouts.

00:37:53.000 True.

00:37:53.000 He pinned him up to the cage with punches.

00:37:56.000 Kept him up with punches.

00:37:57.000 Manet was out cold.

00:37:59.000 And Barone was like literally keeping his body standing up.

00:38:02.000 Little story about Barone.

00:38:03.000 I was even finding out I was just a super fan.

00:38:05.000 And Pride came to Vegas.

00:38:06.000 I got all my money together to buy these bullshit tickets with my best friend.

00:38:10.000 And they were taking pictures outside the Caesars Palace.

00:38:13.000 Fedor.

00:38:14.000 Everyone's there.

00:38:15.000 I got a boner the entire time.

00:38:16.000 I'm so excited, man.

00:38:18.000 I see Barone.

00:38:19.000 My boy liked him.

00:38:20.000 And I didn't want to take a picture with Barone.

00:38:22.000 But my boy goes, hey man, get a picture.

00:38:24.000 I'm like, alright.

00:38:25.000 There's a line.

00:38:25.000 I go up to Bro and I tap on my shoulder.

00:38:27.000 I go, hey man, you mind if we get a pic?

00:38:28.000 I'm not making this up.

00:38:29.000 Turns around, gets in my face, goes, yo bro, you just called me a prick?

00:38:34.000 Like, absolutely not.

00:38:36.000 As for a picture, I said, pic.

00:38:38.000 He goes, let's do it.

00:38:39.000 And I still have the picture.

00:38:40.000 He takes the picture, but he's staring off at like some girl's ass.

00:38:44.000 He's not even looking at the camera.

00:38:45.000 And that's the first time I ever met Phil Barone.

00:38:47.000 Jeez, take it easy.

00:38:48.000 Did you just call me a prick?

00:38:50.000 And I literally was like, no, no, no, no.

00:38:52.000 Stuttering and shit?

00:38:53.000 No, sir.

00:38:55.000 Weird.

00:38:56.000 Phil Barone in the house, man.

00:38:58.000 Beast.

00:39:00.000 Cain Velasquez.

00:39:01.000 There he is.

00:39:03.000 Hmm.

00:39:06.000 Hmm.

00:39:07.000 Size that guy up?

00:39:08.000 Oh, yeah.

00:39:08.000 I was around him all weekend.

00:39:09.000 They were in the same room.

00:39:10.000 I was there.

00:39:11.000 I was like, alright.

00:39:11.000 What do you do when you stand around that guy?

00:39:13.000 What goes through your mind?

00:39:15.000 I just want what he has.

00:39:16.000 You know, I'm just like...

00:39:17.000 You want me to be 100% honest?

00:39:19.000 Fuck that guy.

00:39:20.000 That's what I do.

00:39:21.000 When I walk down, I'm like, man, fuck that guy.

00:39:30.000 I'm so glad you're so honest.

00:39:34.000 Brian says, oh boy.

00:39:36.000 What's he going to do?

00:39:37.000 Fight me?

00:39:38.000 Sure, let's do it.

00:39:39.000 Yeah, I'm in.

00:39:40.000 More of the shit like, fuck EA Sports.

00:39:45.000 Fuck Game Blast.

00:39:46.000 Fuck that guy.

00:39:47.000 Fuck everything.

00:39:47.000 I used trouble with his stuff.

00:39:50.000 He got in a little trouble.

00:39:50.000 No, I love the purge.

00:39:51.000 I love the purge.

00:39:52.000 But you were just fucking around, man, you know?

00:39:55.000 With the EA Sports stuff?

00:39:56.000 Yeah.

00:39:56.000 Listen, man, my feelings got hurt because I'm not in the EA Sports game, so they asked me what I thought of it.

00:40:01.000 So you lashed out.

00:40:01.000 A fan asked me what I thought of it, and I give my...

00:40:04.000 That's how I feel, man.

00:40:05.000 I was like, I think I should be in the game.

00:40:08.000 And so, you know, I'm not going to say what I re-said, but, you know, I said some bad things about not being in the game because my feelings were hurt.

00:40:14.000 But then I went and said, hey, listen, Fire in the Kid fans, tweet EA Sports and tell them how much you love for me to be in the game.

00:40:21.000 So, of course, headlines came out.

00:40:23.000 Shop says blank, blank EA Sports.

00:40:25.000 Did not go well.

00:40:26.000 What happened again?

00:40:27.000 Got a call from Uncle Dana.

00:40:29.000 All from Uncle Dana.

00:40:31.000 Well, that's the problem with podcasts.

00:40:33.000 You can take something that we say out of context over the course of a long show.

00:40:37.000 Three hour show.

00:40:38.000 Fucking around and talking shit and having fun.

00:40:41.000 And you joke around.

00:40:43.000 You're like, fuck this or fuck that.

00:40:45.000 Bro, when I say fuck...

00:40:46.000 When I walk...

00:40:48.000 So there's a UFC party I went to at some club in, who knows, in Vegas, right?

00:40:52.000 I walk in, there's the table, and it's Cain Velasquez.

00:40:56.000 And when I say I walk in and say, fuck that guy, it's because I want what he has.

00:40:59.000 I'm not being disrespectful.

00:41:00.000 Fuck that guy means I'd love to fight him, I want what he has, and I work just as hard as he does, if not harder.

00:41:07.000 That's how I feel about it.

00:41:08.000 Hopefully you'll see him one day across the ring and you can't have reverence for him.

00:41:12.000 No, and hopefully one day he comes into a party and looks at me and says, man, fuck Brendan Chubb.

00:41:17.000 Because he wants to fight me.

00:41:19.000 That's what you want.

00:41:20.000 Right.

00:41:23.000 That's it.

00:41:23.000 If it comes to Derek Lewis, just stay out of his way.

00:41:26.000 It's just a thing where, you know, when you take things out of context.

00:41:30.000 I know.

00:41:31.000 Oh, I get so comfortable.

00:41:32.000 Like, you guys are my boys.

00:41:34.000 We're in this room.

00:41:35.000 It's all comfy.

00:41:36.000 I got coffee.

00:41:37.000 It's all warm.

00:41:38.000 We're chilling.

00:41:39.000 We're all friends.

00:41:40.000 Got mics on.

00:41:41.000 I don't know.

00:41:42.000 I forget where I'm at sometimes.

00:41:43.000 Yeah, it is what it is, man.

00:41:45.000 It's one of those things.

00:41:47.000 I'm learning.

00:41:47.000 You're having fun.

00:41:49.000 I mean, to combine the two of them and the professionalism.

00:41:52.000 Look at this.

00:41:53.000 Boom!

00:41:54.000 Boom!

00:41:54.000 One shot from that guy.

00:41:55.000 Boom!

00:41:56.000 Boom!

00:41:58.000 He's 6'8".

00:41:59.000 Oh, man.

00:42:00.000 6'3", Brian.

00:42:01.000 He slouches when he's 6'3".

00:42:03.000 When he's standing tall, look at that.

00:42:04.000 He's got a t-shirt of himself.

00:42:08.000 He said he's been looking at Kane for a while?

00:42:13.000 Picture everybody as Kane.

00:42:15.000 That's what he's saying.

00:42:16.000 So he's trying to set himself up for a title shot.

00:42:19.000 Boy, okay.

00:42:20.000 Hold, hold.

00:42:21.000 I like the dream, though.

00:42:23.000 It's good to have a dream.

00:42:24.000 Yeah, you know, it's good to have a dream.

00:42:26.000 You might want to wait a little bit.

00:42:28.000 There's a lot of guys kind of waiting in line and stuff.

00:42:31.000 Might want to wait a little bit.

00:42:33.000 Oh, boy.

00:42:36.000 I would be surprised if Homeboy got knocked out because it's a 205. Real small heavyweight.

00:42:42.000 Damn.

00:42:45.000 Herb Dean.

00:42:47.000 I love Herb.

00:42:49.000 You gotta love this celebration.

00:42:50.000 Ba-boom!

00:42:52.000 For sure show some emotion, though.

00:42:54.000 Yeah.

00:42:54.000 Alright, there we go.

00:42:54.000 Kid hits hard.

00:42:55.000 Gotta give him that.

00:42:56.000 No doubt about that.

00:42:57.000 No doubt.

00:42:58.000 He's a giant man.

00:42:59.000 This just in, though.

00:43:00.000 Every heavyweight hits hard.

00:43:01.000 This just in.

00:43:02.000 This just in.

00:43:03.000 If you don't, it's a bad time for you.

00:43:06.000 Any word on your head.

00:43:08.000 Has there ever been a heavyweight that doesn't hit hard?

00:43:10.000 A guy like a pillow fighting heavyweight.

00:43:12.000 What is Oscar De La Hoya doing?

00:43:15.000 Let's hear this.

00:43:16.000 Crank this shit up.

00:43:19.000 Crank this shit up.

00:43:20.000 I just picture him in drag.

00:43:22.000 Yeah.

00:43:22.000 Is that weird?

00:43:23.000 He can't not.

00:43:25.000 I'm not mad at him for that, though.

00:43:26.000 No, me neither.

00:43:26.000 I would probably do the same thing.

00:43:28.000 A little more volume, Jamie.

00:43:29.000 I respect him more.

00:43:34.000 Oh, how cute.

00:43:38.000 Is he selling us on the fight right now?

00:43:39.000 I think he is.

00:43:40.000 They must be in some sort of thing.

00:43:43.000 Huge fan.

00:43:45.000 Sweet science, knockouts.

00:43:47.000 I love it.

00:43:48.000 Well, and we certainly appreciate your support.

00:43:50.000 Now, Wednesday night, you're on Fox Sports 1. You've got a gold boy promotion.

00:43:53.000 Oh, he's promoting.

00:43:54.000 Okay.

00:43:55.000 Boring!

00:43:56.000 Hey, oh, Oscar, like you'll see?

00:43:58.000 Sweet.

00:43:58.000 Looks fantastic, by the way.

00:44:00.000 Doesn't look bad.

00:44:01.000 Doesn't look like he took any shots to the face at all, actually.

00:44:03.000 Well, you know, he just got out of rehab, man.

00:44:06.000 Like, a lot of guys that have long boxing careers start getting depressed.

00:44:10.000 Yep.

00:44:11.000 And a lot of them start seeking, like, help with...

00:44:15.000 They're dopamine levels using the wrong shit, like alcohol and cocaine.

00:44:20.000 That will 100% be me.

00:44:22.000 I'm going to tell you guys that right now.

00:44:24.000 100%.

00:44:24.000 After our loss, I was like, I might need to check myself.

00:44:27.000 You'll be able to fight at 205. I might need to go into rehab.

00:44:30.000 You felt it?

00:44:32.000 Are you kidding me?

00:44:33.000 What?

00:44:36.000 First of all, him in drag, you can't be mad.

00:44:38.000 He was hooking up with some dime piece.

00:44:39.000 She was like, listen, the only way you're going to hit this is if you put on these stockings and put some lipstick on.

00:44:43.000 Guess what?

00:44:44.000 I'm putting on some stockings and some lipstick to hit that.

00:44:47.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:44:47.000 Well, she's Russian, too.

00:44:48.000 A Russian stripper.

00:44:49.000 Those bitches are mercenaries.

00:44:50.000 They get wild, man.

00:44:51.000 Whatever.

00:44:52.000 Mercenaries.

00:44:53.000 Mercenaries.

00:44:54.000 Mercenaries.

00:44:55.000 Who was the guy who brought the girl up and she had her phone, her iPhone?

00:44:58.000 She recorded the whole...

00:44:59.000 What's the guy's name?

00:45:01.000 Recorded everything he was saying.

00:45:02.000 Who's that?

00:45:03.000 She kept it in her purse.

00:45:05.000 Oh god, he had a TV show.

00:45:07.000 What did he say?

00:45:08.000 Talking about Jay Springer?

00:45:09.000 Just all kinds of nasty stuff when he was having sex with everyone.

00:45:12.000 Canelo, man.

00:45:12.000 God damn, this kid's good.

00:45:15.000 Super good.

00:45:15.000 Oh, beautiful!

00:45:16.000 That Austin Trout fight.

00:45:17.000 Look at that.

00:45:19.000 Sweet.

00:45:19.000 Ah, that fight was...

00:45:21.000 I don't want to get into boxing, but yeah.

00:45:24.000 The Austin Trout fight?

00:45:25.000 I don't know if he won that one.

00:45:27.000 That was tough, man.

00:45:28.000 The Trout fight.

00:45:29.000 That one right there that you just saw him drop that dude?

00:45:31.000 Yeah, you see him drop him, but that was a close fight, man.

00:45:33.000 And then all you do is see the highlights because he's fighting Floyd Mayweather next.

00:45:36.000 They made it seem like he just...

00:45:39.000 Destroyed Trout.

00:45:39.000 He definitely did not.

00:45:41.000 I would have to go back and watch that again.

00:45:42.000 You'll have to see it, yeah.

00:45:43.000 And then Floyd Mayweather just put a clinic on him.

00:45:45.000 He's too much, I think.

00:45:47.000 He's too big.

00:45:48.000 He's too big for that weight class.

00:45:50.000 Canelo, as you think?

00:45:51.000 Yeah, well, to fight Floyd Mayweather at the weight they fought in.

00:45:54.000 You think he cuts too much or he's not fast enough?

00:45:57.000 He's not fast enough for Floyd.

00:45:59.000 Yeah, that's interesting, man.

00:46:00.000 Floyd is fast as fuck.

00:46:01.000 He's also just so smart.

00:46:03.000 So smart.

00:46:05.000 His defense is the best in the world.

00:46:07.000 Yeah, there's nothing like it.

00:46:09.000 I've only seen him hit once.

00:46:10.000 The only time I've ever seen him hurt was Shane Mosley.

00:46:13.000 That was the only time I've ever seen him really hit.

00:46:15.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:46:17.000 My Donna tagged him a little bit.

00:46:18.000 My Donna tagged him.

00:46:19.000 They're rematching.

00:46:20.000 I don't want to see that rematch.

00:46:23.000 They're rematching.

00:46:23.000 You want to see it?

00:46:24.000 Really?

00:46:24.000 I'm not into it.

00:46:26.000 Well, I definitely want to see the Floyd Mayweather-Sugar Shane Mosley rematch.

00:46:30.000 Although I met Sugar Shane at STK. Boy, a little punchy.

00:46:35.000 A little punchy.

00:46:36.000 That's what happens.

00:46:38.000 A few years back, I ran into Terry Norris at a boxing event, and it was super depressing.

00:46:44.000 I hadn't seen him in forever, and all of a sudden I see...

00:46:47.000 What's going on here with this guy?

00:46:50.000 Oh, helping guys with injuries coming off of a war, probably.

00:46:57.000 He builds champions.

00:46:58.000 Is this a show?

00:47:03.000 It's all just strength and conditioning.

00:47:04.000 Everybody has to have AstroTurf now.

00:47:06.000 American Muscle.

00:47:07.000 That's what it is.

00:47:08.000 A new series.

00:47:08.000 American Muscle.

00:47:09.000 I will 100% watch that.

00:47:11.000 I will be into that.

00:47:12.000 For sure.

00:47:13.000 American Muscle.

00:47:15.000 How crazy is that?

00:47:16.000 I didn't say a word when that was there and I was just super into it.

00:47:18.000 You guys probably won't watch that.

00:47:19.000 I'll watch it for sure.

00:47:21.000 They have shows now about guys making pools.

00:47:24.000 My friend who came up with me with this show, I told you that I got an ear beating this weekend, this guy trying to tell me how can I make this show.

00:47:32.000 I'm like, I'm the wrong guy to talk to.

00:47:34.000 But he's like, do you think it could be a show?

00:47:35.000 I'm like, dude, there's a show about a guy that makes pools.

00:47:38.000 That's it.

00:47:38.000 So anything's possible.

00:47:40.000 Not only that, all those shows, 100% bullshit.

00:47:43.000 It's all scripted, right?

00:47:44.000 Those Pawn Star shows, not Pawn Star shows, the storage stores, they fill those lockers up.

00:47:51.000 They set it all up.

00:47:52.000 There's a guy who got fired from one of those shows and he ratted them all out.

00:47:57.000 I'll tell you right now, if you tell me Team Mom's scripted, I'm going to freak out.

00:48:00.000 I'm going to freak out.

00:48:02.000 If bitches are getting pregnant just for the show, I'm about to freak out.

00:48:04.000 I love that show, man.

00:48:05.000 Well, I guarantee you there are some girls out there that are young and dumb who would get pregnant to be on TV. For sure.

00:48:13.000 Hey, MTV, if you think that made people not want to have babies, it did the exact opposite.

00:48:17.000 These girls are like, hold up.

00:48:18.000 I get more Instagram followers by getting pregnant and getting on MTV? 100% blow your load in me.

00:48:23.000 Well, they're not doing it because they're trying to save the world.

00:48:27.000 I mean, I hate when they're like, We're just trying to let everyone know.

00:48:30.000 It's like Team Prexy is a serious problem this day and age.

00:48:33.000 Derek Lewis and Guto Innocente.

00:48:36.000 How do you say it?

00:48:37.000 Guto Innocente.

00:48:39.000 I was just looking at Daniel Cormier in a suit and there's no reason he should be as tough as he is.

00:48:42.000 He just looks like the UPS guy.

00:48:44.000 What are you talking about?

00:48:46.000 Daniel Cormier does not look like the killer.

00:48:48.000 Please shut your mouth.

00:48:49.000 He doesn't.

00:48:49.000 He's wide as a house.

00:48:51.000 Yeah, but I mean, he's actually in a suit.

00:48:53.000 He looks kind of like a thick guy.

00:48:55.000 He's just small.

00:48:55.000 You're saying he's kind of small?

00:48:56.000 He just doesn't look like, you know, he's so amazing and such a killer and has been so dominant.

00:49:01.000 It's just not what you, when you look at him in a suit, you're like, well, he looks like a thick guy.

00:49:05.000 I've seen a lot of guys like that.

00:49:07.000 You're so weird.

00:49:08.000 You're such a string guy, bro.

00:49:09.000 That's so weird, right?

00:49:10.000 Yeah, you're so weird.

00:49:10.000 Because he'll see a little jiu-jitsu guy and be like, God, I bet that guy would rip your dick off.

00:49:15.000 But Conan looks like a monster.

00:49:18.000 You know, do you have any idea what Cormier would do to Conan?

00:49:20.000 Oh, I know all about it.

00:49:21.000 I know.

00:49:22.000 Now, back then.

00:49:24.000 I know.

00:49:24.000 That's what's amazing.

00:49:25.000 3 o'clock in the morning, drunk, standing outside a fucking pizza place.

00:49:30.000 And what is he, 5'10", maybe 10?

00:49:33.000 5'11", maybe?

00:49:34.000 I don't know.

00:49:34.000 I'll give him 5'11".

00:49:35.000 Yeah.

00:49:36.000 He's an animal.

00:49:37.000 You know what he is?

00:49:38.000 He's a world-class athlete.

00:49:40.000 That's what he is.

00:49:41.000 And the mind of a world-class wrestler like that is something that...

00:49:44.000 He never seems remotely nervous.

00:49:46.000 It looks like he's going to buy milk.

00:49:48.000 You know what?

00:49:48.000 The only time I saw him nervous?

00:49:49.000 Frank Mir.

00:49:50.000 Really?

00:49:50.000 Really.

00:49:51.000 And he even admitted it.

00:49:53.000 He admitted it.

00:49:53.000 He had UFC jitters when he fought Frank Mir.

00:49:55.000 He was like, dang.

00:49:56.000 Yeah, he actually talked about that, the UFC jitters.

00:49:59.000 UFC jitters are real, man.

00:50:00.000 100% it's real.

00:50:01.000 Guess what?

00:50:01.000 He didn't have them with Dan fucking Henderson.

00:50:03.000 Holy shit, he didn't have them.

00:50:05.000 God.

00:50:06.000 Nobody's ragdoll for Henderson.

00:50:07.000 I thought it was an episode of Bully Beatdown.

00:50:09.000 I was like, oh cool, Bully Beatdown.

00:50:10.000 Nope, UFC preview.

00:50:11.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:50:12.000 Pay-per-view.

00:50:12.000 He just beat the shit.

00:50:13.000 Why'd he pick him up and body slam him like that?

00:50:16.000 Don't do that to Dan Henderson!

00:50:18.000 You bastard!

00:50:19.000 You killed Dan!

00:50:21.000 You killed Dan!

00:50:23.000 Why'd he do that to him though?

00:50:24.000 Dan was all tan and shit too.

00:50:26.000 And choked him unconscious.

00:50:27.000 Dan didn't even tap.

00:50:28.000 He went out like a man.

00:50:31.000 Brian said, we're in better shape than anybody.

00:50:35.000 I was grabbing his arms.

00:50:37.000 I was like, are you ready to fight?

00:50:38.000 He's like, I'm two weeks out.

00:50:39.000 I can't stand when guys wear three-piece suits on TV. I don't know.

00:50:43.000 It's like, what are we doing?

00:50:44.000 You work at a funeral home?

00:50:46.000 I'm sorry.

00:50:46.000 They got me those jackets and the whole thing.

00:50:49.000 They got me the collared shirts that are form-fitted and the pants that are fitted to my legs and all that shit.

00:50:56.000 And the jacket, I wore it a couple times and I'm like, this is just too goofy.

00:50:59.000 It's just not you, huh?

00:51:00.000 I can't do it.

00:51:01.000 You want to put your jacket on for this interview?

00:51:03.000 Put your jacket on for this...

00:51:04.000 Is it going to make it better if I have a jacket on?

00:51:07.000 This is ridiculous.

00:51:09.000 The three-piece suit's too formal, man.

00:51:11.000 It's too much for me.

00:51:12.000 Behind me, people in their underwear about to shin kick each other in the face.

00:51:16.000 And you want me to wear a jacket like I'm selling insurance.

00:51:19.000 I don't get it, man.

00:51:21.000 I don't get it.

00:51:22.000 It's weird.

00:51:23.000 It's too weird.

00:51:25.000 It's a weird thing, our cultural desires to all have the same fucking outfits on if we're being serious or classy or doing business.

00:51:33.000 Formality.

00:51:33.000 I have a suit on, so listen to what I'm saying.

00:51:35.000 I know what I'm saying.

00:51:36.000 Clearly, I'm prepared for no nonsense.

00:51:39.000 Apparently, if I have a v-neck on, I'm playing grab ass.

00:51:41.000 Standards?

00:51:42.000 Well, guess what?

00:51:42.000 I'm playing grab ass all the time then.

00:51:44.000 Iron Mike Productions?

00:51:46.000 Yep.

00:51:46.000 Oh my god, Mike Tyson has his own production?

00:51:49.000 Oh my god, Mike Tyson must be bored as shit.

00:51:52.000 It's Wednesday and Thursday.

00:51:53.000 Wow, Iron Mike Productions.

00:51:55.000 Interesting, man.

00:51:56.000 Did you see his show when he was doing Broadway stuff?

00:51:58.000 No.

00:51:59.000 Oh, it was good.

00:51:59.000 I heard it was awesome.

00:52:00.000 Was he done with it?

00:52:01.000 Did he stop doing it?

00:52:02.000 I think so, because he's doing that bullshit promotion thing now.

00:52:04.000 Oh, the fights?

00:52:05.000 Yeah, I bet so.

00:52:06.000 I bet he's done.

00:52:06.000 Well, he's only got so many stories, I guess.

00:52:09.000 You know, I mean, it's one of those things like...

00:52:11.000 Did you guys remember Defending the Caveman?

00:52:15.000 Yes.

00:52:15.000 It was essentially like a hack stand-up comedy act.

00:52:19.000 And it was like...

00:52:20.000 He's made so much money on that?

00:52:22.000 Yeah, not only did he make so much money out of it, Michael Chiklis, that guy from The Shield, he actually performed it for a while.

00:52:29.000 He was selling it so other guys could perform it.

00:52:32.000 Like, he had this act...

00:52:33.000 And guys would do it.

00:52:35.000 It was like they were selling it as a theater show.

00:52:38.000 But it was essentially like kind of a hacky stand-up comedy act.

00:52:41.000 It's still performed everywhere.

00:52:43.000 I've never heard of it.

00:52:43.000 It's still making a fortune.

00:52:44.000 It's so weird.

00:52:45.000 It's the difference between men and women.

00:52:46.000 Yeah.

00:52:46.000 Men are like this and women are like that.

00:52:49.000 But it's nothing groundbreaking.

00:52:51.000 It's like, you know, I mean, I guess it's probably well done if people enjoy it.

00:52:54.000 I saw it on Broadway, actually.

00:52:55.000 What did you think about it?

00:52:56.000 I thought that it was well written.

00:52:58.000 I didn't think he was a performer.

00:53:00.000 He wasn't.

00:53:00.000 I saw the original guy who wrote it do it and so then now he just licenses it out to other actors.

00:53:07.000 To scrubs?

00:53:08.000 Yeah, but it's actually back then.

00:53:10.000 They have to have it for material?

00:53:12.000 He basically draws the distinction between hunters and gatherers.

00:53:14.000 And the difference is when men go to shop, for example, they're linear.

00:53:18.000 They want to go get their jeans.

00:53:19.000 They're going to find it and kill it and take the jeans and leave.

00:53:21.000 Women, when they go shop, they want to touch things, smell it.

00:53:23.000 They go through it.

00:53:24.000 They're gathering.

00:53:25.000 Well, Then I'm a chick because I take forever.

00:53:27.000 There's a lot of truth to it.

00:53:28.000 I take forever.

00:53:29.000 You have a lot of feminine energy, bro.

00:53:31.000 I like my fashion, man.

00:53:33.000 I don't like to rush and fucking grab jeans from Target.

00:53:36.000 Why'd you look at my groin?

00:53:38.000 It's in my face.

00:53:39.000 There you go.

00:53:39.000 You like my Japanese denim, huh?

00:53:41.000 Jeans from Target.

00:53:43.000 These are Japanese down and these are not from Target.

00:53:44.000 I buy 90% of my clothes online.

00:53:46.000 Really?

00:53:47.000 Yep.

00:53:48.000 How's it fit?

00:53:49.000 Because you're not a small dude.

00:53:50.000 You have weird dimensions.

00:53:52.000 You do.

00:53:52.000 You have weird dimensions.

00:53:53.000 Like a bridge troll.

00:53:55.000 No, because you're like thick.

00:53:56.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:53:57.000 You're in shape.

00:53:58.000 So you can't buy just like regular sweatpants from freaking Sam's Club.

00:54:02.000 Yeah, I buy things that are, like, certain brands that I can buy, like Lucky Jeans.

00:54:07.000 I can buy, like, Lucky Jeans, but I have to buy the waist too big.

00:54:09.000 Yeah.

00:54:10.000 I have a 32-inch waist, so I buy, like, a 33 or 34-inch waist.

00:54:14.000 So they fit my legs.

00:54:15.000 Yeah.

00:54:16.000 Loud snore on the planet, by the way.

00:54:17.000 How's your snoring going?

00:54:18.000 It's not bad.

00:54:19.000 No?

00:54:19.000 It's pretty good.

00:54:20.000 I couldn't sleep.

00:54:21.000 Went deer hunting, didn't sleep for four days.

00:54:23.000 Because he was snoring neck.

00:54:25.000 It would start about two in the morning, just...

00:54:28.000 I'm a little bit of snoring myself.

00:54:30.000 It's a neck thing.

00:54:31.000 I would do this to you.

00:54:32.000 I go, eh, eh.

00:54:32.000 I go, eh, eh, eh.

00:54:33.000 And you go, and stop for a second.

00:54:37.000 Then you go, eh, eh, eh.

00:54:38.000 By the way, I got a new mouthpiece, so you don't have to worry about that anymore.

00:54:41.000 Really?

00:54:41.000 Yeah.

00:54:42.000 So we can cuddle now.

00:54:43.000 It's amazing.

00:54:44.000 Fantastic.

00:54:44.000 I got a mouthpiece that presses my tongue down.

00:54:47.000 And it keeps my tongue from falling back in my mouth.

00:54:50.000 So you don't snort?

00:54:50.000 Yeah, that's what it is.

00:54:51.000 It's uncomfortable at first.

00:54:52.000 It feels like you're going to throw up.

00:54:53.000 Like someone's trying to put their dick down your mouth.

00:54:56.000 Trying to deep throat your mouth.

00:54:57.000 My father's got really bad sleep apnea.

00:54:59.000 He's got to have like a mask and everything.

00:55:01.000 Yeah, but that's what I'm trying to avoid doing.

00:55:03.000 Yeah.

00:55:03.000 Yeah, and then there's also a surgery that you can get where they take out your tonsils and your adenoids.

00:55:07.000 My friend did it.

00:55:08.000 Yeah.

00:55:08.000 It was a long recovery.

00:55:09.000 Or you just keep snoring and you go on with life, all right?

00:55:12.000 Yeah, but you know what?

00:55:13.000 Dudes say that as a long recovery.

00:55:14.000 They also say that about the fucking nose thing.

00:55:16.000 The deviated septum can't get me from doing it for a long time.

00:55:20.000 I had it done.

00:55:20.000 It was easy.

00:55:21.000 It was great.

00:55:22.000 I mean, my nose was a little sensitive, but I was rolling six weeks later, and I was breathing great.

00:55:27.000 Yep.

00:55:27.000 Do you still breathe great?

00:55:28.000 Because my surgery...

00:55:29.000 Man.

00:55:30.000 Pretty good.

00:55:31.000 Oh, it's so good.

00:55:32.000 Dude, my whole life I had a whack nose.

00:55:35.000 I fell down a flight of stairs.

00:55:36.000 My surgery wasn't successful.

00:55:38.000 Well, you probably went back to the gym like a week later and started getting punched in the face.

00:55:41.000 You just said you went back a week later.

00:55:42.000 Rolling.

00:55:42.000 I was rolling.

00:55:43.000 No punches.

00:55:44.000 You fell down the stairs and broke your nose.

00:55:46.000 When I was five.

00:55:47.000 Yeah, when I was five years old, smashed my nose, shattered it.

00:55:50.000 Cement stare.

00:55:51.000 And from then on, it was useless.

00:55:53.000 And then my whole life was wrestling, martial arts.

00:55:56.000 I got hit in the face who knows how many times.

00:55:58.000 I know I broke my nose at least probably ten, a dozen times.

00:56:02.000 At least.

00:56:02.000 And then there's all this scar tissue buildup.

00:56:05.000 And then they take your turbinates.

00:56:06.000 They trim your turbinates down.

00:56:08.000 My nose actually got wider after the surgery because...

00:56:12.000 When he cut me open, this guy was a real wizard.

00:56:16.000 He retired, Dr. Feinstein in Encino.

00:56:20.000 And he put these forms, these things, these plastic splints and shoved it.

00:56:27.000 He's like, what is your main concern?

00:56:29.000 And I explain, you know, like I do martial arts and stuff and I can't breathe out of my nose and all this different jazz.

00:56:35.000 And he's like, you know, we're going to open it wide.

00:56:37.000 We're going to really get in there.

00:56:39.000 We're going to trim down what's called the turbinates, all these different things.

00:56:41.000 We're going to spread it out.

00:56:42.000 So he, like, cut me open and took out all this scar tissue.

00:56:47.000 I mean, he showed it to me.

00:56:48.000 He had, like, a plate of all the shit that he pulled out of my nose.

00:56:51.000 Oh, it was incredible.

00:56:52.000 And then he stuffed these plastic things in that sort of wedged my nose open and then stuffed these foam inserts in place.

00:57:00.000 I had the same thing, but my nose collapsed, and he had to take a piece of cartilage and put it under my nose.

00:57:05.000 And this is...

00:57:06.000 I am not kidding.

00:57:07.000 Where'd you get the cartilage?

00:57:07.000 Where'd they cut it out?

00:57:08.000 I don't know.

00:57:08.000 He had to put an extra piece.

00:57:10.000 And I'm telling you that for two weeks, my nose, look, my nose, I look like a pig.

00:57:15.000 Hold on.

00:57:16.000 No, Brian had a nose job.

00:57:18.000 Brian had a nose job.

00:57:19.000 Brian, but they don't take cartilage from other people's body and put it in your body.

00:57:23.000 No, no.

00:57:23.000 They must have taken it from my nose, but he said I had to take a piece of cartilage and put it under your nose because it collapsed.

00:57:28.000 They don't take cartilage from your nose and put it in your nose.

00:57:30.000 That doesn't make sense.

00:57:31.000 I'm going to bail Brian out.

00:57:33.000 So they just showed the Ultimate Fighter, the hometown, where they go to their hometown and show them.

00:57:39.000 This is funny.

00:57:40.000 When I was on...

00:57:42.000 You guys are just passing over my nose.

00:57:44.000 Well, you for sure made that up.

00:57:46.000 Something's clearly made.

00:57:46.000 I'm doing a saw in here.

00:57:47.000 I'm doing a saw in here.

00:57:48.000 I literally had to have my nose glass and they had to put it under.

00:57:52.000 And so my nose was up like this as patty for two weeks.

00:57:54.000 It's called a nose job.

00:57:55.000 And I said, is my nose going to come back to normal?

00:57:56.000 I said, it'll come back.

00:57:57.000 Well, they gave you a dick nose.

00:57:59.000 Which it did.

00:57:59.000 Yeah, your nose looks like a...

00:58:00.000 And my nose is a little more turned up than it was, by the way.

00:58:03.000 It used to have a nice bend to my nose.

00:58:05.000 What year was this?

00:58:07.000 1983. No, it was 1990. 1989. That's a number.

00:58:11.000 Another summer.

00:58:12.000 98, I think?

00:58:13.000 98. Yeah.

00:58:14.000 Yeah.

00:58:15.000 It's a great operation, though, if you get it done correctly and it takes.

00:58:19.000 God.

00:58:19.000 Mine didn't take.

00:58:21.000 So they showed the Ultimate Fighter where they go hometown.

00:58:23.000 This is when I was the Ultimate Fighter.

00:58:24.000 This is how naive and stupid I was.

00:58:27.000 This is how cocky I was back then.

00:58:29.000 So I had four fights.

00:58:30.000 Made it all the way to the finale on Ultimate Fighter.

00:58:33.000 They come to your hometown, you're training to get ready for the fight, and they go into your background, your life, stuff like that.

00:58:39.000 And my thing on there, I was talking about how Roy Nelson, who was a former world chairman of all these fights, has never fought anybody like me.

00:58:48.000 And that was my comment.

00:58:50.000 I was like, don't worry, he's never fought anyone like me.

00:58:51.000 And everyone on mine was like, huh?

00:58:54.000 He fought Andre Oloski, he fought freaking everybody.

00:58:57.000 I just didn't take that into account, man.

00:59:00.000 Back in the day.

00:59:00.000 I was just talking shit on mine, yeah.

00:59:03.000 Well, you talk shit, but I love the fact that you admit that you talk shit.

00:59:06.000 Yeah, what can you do, man?

00:59:07.000 You gotta keep it real.

00:59:09.000 You gotta keep it real.

00:59:09.000 At least you get back in there and fight.

00:59:11.000 Yeah, you're honest about the shit talk.

00:59:14.000 Yeah.

00:59:14.000 It is important.

00:59:16.000 It's important if you're gonna talk shit, to be honest about it.

00:59:18.000 Have you seen this?

00:59:19.000 This is the strain.

00:59:20.000 This is the...

00:59:21.000 Guillermo del Toro.

00:59:22.000 It was a really good book for like three-quarters of the way in and then it became shit.

00:59:27.000 I wonder what they're gonna do.

00:59:28.000 But apparently the whole time they were making the book for a miniseries.

00:59:34.000 They were designing it as a miniseries.

00:59:36.000 It's about vampires.

00:59:38.000 I hope they do a good job.

00:59:40.000 Ooh, anything with vampires I watch.

00:59:41.000 Me too.

00:59:42.000 Vampires or zombies, but I prefer to be a vampire if I had to pick one.

00:59:46.000 I don't know if you guys are thinking about that.

00:59:47.000 I love me a monster movie.

00:59:49.000 Me too, man.

00:59:50.000 Love them.

00:59:51.000 Farmers only.

00:59:52.000 This is all for dudes trying to date chicks.

00:59:54.000 But you have to be a farmer?

00:59:55.000 Like, can I get on there even though I'm not a farmer and just clean house with these farmer bitches?

01:00:00.000 Just like, listen girl, I know you're looking for a farmer to send her dick pics, but from Marina Del Rey, just on the ocean with a dick.

01:00:09.000 You ain't no farmer.

01:00:11.000 You ain't no farmer.

01:00:12.000 Get out of here.

01:00:12.000 I'm farming sand, bitch.

01:00:15.000 Farming sand.

01:00:16.000 Farming sand and growing loads.

01:00:24.000 Like, is there going to be repercussions since I'm not a farmer and I'm trying to slang all these bitches on farmers only?

01:00:29.000 No, if you're into dating farmers, you know, like maybe the girls are not just into farmers, they're into guys who like farmer girls.

01:00:36.000 But is there like one farmer girl who's just a beast on there, none of these...

01:00:40.000 Shitty farmers can get to her.

01:00:42.000 Then I create a profile and they hate me.

01:00:44.000 Maybe.

01:00:45.000 And then they come find me.

01:00:46.000 Yeah, there's like some Misha Tate looking farmer.

01:00:49.000 Yeah, right?

01:00:50.000 Out there wearing mini skirts and high heels.

01:00:53.000 Pushing the big ass.

01:00:55.000 Just on a horse.

01:00:56.000 Just blow out ass on a horse.

01:00:58.000 Yeah, some Jessica Biel looking farmer bitch.

01:01:00.000 Yeah, she's out there.

01:01:01.000 I'm going to sign up for that when we need you.

01:01:03.000 You think so?

01:01:03.000 I do.

01:01:04.000 Really?

01:01:04.000 Sure, man.

01:01:05.000 100% there's someone like that out there, right?

01:01:06.000 I mean, you do stand about in Minnesota and places like that.

01:01:08.000 There's some Jessica Marichick picking apples.

01:01:10.000 Just innocent, just has no idea what's going on.

01:01:14.000 Looks over her shoulder at you.

01:01:16.000 Oh, hi, Brendan.

01:01:17.000 Want to help me with these apples?

01:01:19.000 Drinking raw milk and eating apples all day.

01:01:21.000 You're just trying to be nice, trying to be nice the whole time.

01:01:23.000 Okay, so Eddie Gordon, who is, this is Matt Serra's guy, and he's fighting out of Ray Longo's camp.

01:01:30.000 Matt Serra, Ray Longo.

01:01:31.000 And then Diego Lima, who's Douglas Lima, who's the Bellator champion.

01:01:35.000 Bad motherfucker.

01:01:36.000 That's his brother.

01:01:38.000 Diego Lima had some fucking good fights in the house.

01:01:42.000 Three rounds in the UFC. Three rounds.

01:01:47.000 I flew in with Bruce Buffer.

01:01:48.000 We had some interesting conversations about dating.

01:01:51.000 It was fun.

01:01:53.000 It was fun.

01:01:54.000 Was it really?

01:01:56.000 It's only a 40 minute flight.

01:01:59.000 How many times did you talk about pussy in 40 minutes?

01:02:02.000 For 40 minutes.

01:02:04.000 It was Bruce and this stuff.

01:02:05.000 It was interesting.

01:02:06.000 Have you ever seen the cover of Fighters Magazine?

01:02:08.000 Fighters Only Magazine with Bruce?

01:02:09.000 No.

01:02:10.000 Bruce with lipstick all over his face.

01:02:12.000 Kisses all over his face.

01:02:14.000 Two hot broads with him.

01:02:15.000 Greatest cover ever.

01:02:16.000 He's got two champagne bottles with him.

01:02:19.000 Jamie, pull that shit up.

01:02:20.000 Pull that shit up.

01:02:21.000 Living the life.

01:02:23.000 Yeah, it's quite redonkulous.

01:02:29.000 Eve Levine.

01:02:29.000 So you know someone is definitely in fucked up if they get knocked down.

01:02:32.000 Because he does not jump in early.

01:02:34.000 No.

01:02:35.000 Whenever Eve Levine comes into your back room and he's like, listen, I'll be your referee.

01:02:38.000 You're like, damn, I better be on it this fight.

01:02:41.000 I'm about to get my ass whooped if he's done it.

01:02:42.000 He stopped the Alexis Davis fight the right time when Ronda had her out.

01:02:46.000 I agree 100%.

01:02:47.000 I'll joke in a side.

01:02:49.000 I'm just making a joke.

01:02:49.000 He's a great referee.

01:02:50.000 He's a very good referee.

01:02:51.000 Yes.

01:02:51.000 Look at this.

01:02:52.000 There's Bruce.

01:02:53.000 Two different weight glasses.

01:02:53.000 Look at him.

01:02:54.000 He's got the glass.

01:02:55.000 Look, the girl's kissing him.

01:02:56.000 He's got the two glasses.

01:02:57.000 Oh, I love it, man.

01:02:59.000 Bruce is living the La Vida Loca.

01:03:02.000 That's Cub Swanson.

01:03:04.000 That's Cub Swanson.

01:03:05.000 If you scroll up, you can see what it says about Bruce Buffer.

01:03:08.000 Scroll down.

01:03:08.000 Scroll down, yeah.

01:03:10.000 Buffer's popping bottles and kissing bottles.

01:03:13.000 The secret Playboy lifestyle.

01:03:14.000 Damn!

01:03:15.000 And it's like a tell-all?

01:03:17.000 Of course.

01:03:18.000 All.

01:03:19.000 All.

01:03:19.000 Like, really all.

01:03:20.000 He doesn't hold anything down.

01:03:21.000 I love it.

01:03:22.000 He told me, Brendan, why don't you get down to Malibu and we'll find some bitches?

01:03:27.000 All right.

01:03:28.000 Yeah, that's exactly what he said.

01:03:29.000 That's a strange choice of words.

01:03:31.000 No, I love it.

01:03:32.000 Eddie Gordon and Diego Lima.

01:03:33.000 Let's get to this, because these are two good fighters.

01:03:35.000 Gordon's a banger, man.

01:03:36.000 He's tough as shit.

01:03:37.000 Depending on the camera angle, man.

01:03:38.000 Looks like Lima's a lot taller.

01:03:39.000 Oh, he's tall.

01:03:40.000 He's very tall.

01:03:41.000 Oh, Gordon cracked him!

01:03:43.000 Whoa.

01:03:43.000 Damn, he's throwing.

01:03:44.000 Oh, no!

01:03:47.000 I'm assuming he has...

01:03:48.000 Oh!

01:03:48.000 Hammered is bringing it, son.

01:03:50.000 I'm assuming he has good jiu-jitsu training with Matt Serra.

01:03:52.000 Oh, he cracked him with that uppercut.

01:03:54.000 Beautiful uppercut.

01:03:55.000 That's behind the head.

01:03:55.000 Oh, he's...

01:03:56.000 Lima's in big trouble.

01:03:58.000 Big trouble.

01:04:00.000 Boom!

01:04:01.000 Boom!

01:04:02.000 Boom!

01:04:02.000 Oh, he's out.

01:04:03.000 They should stop him.

01:04:04.000 You are so right about Levi Levine.

01:04:05.000 He's out cold.

01:04:06.000 So right.

01:04:08.000 Look at that.

01:04:09.000 Damn, what a performance by Eddie Gordon.

01:04:12.000 Man, that kid can crack.

01:04:13.000 I love that uppercut through under the armpit from the side.

01:04:17.000 You can't see it.

01:04:18.000 It's so hard to get out of the way of it.

01:04:20.000 Such a nasty punch.

01:04:20.000 Especially when you're against the cage.

01:04:22.000 That's how Henderson got knocked out by...

01:04:23.000 I mean, that's how Fedor got knocked out by Henderson.

01:04:26.000 Man, that kid brought it.

01:04:29.000 It's been brought in.

01:04:30.000 Strong fella.

01:04:31.000 Yeah, he brought it, planted it, built a forest with it, cut the forest down, made houses with it.

01:04:35.000 He's 185 pounds, by the way.

01:04:36.000 Now he's on Farmers.com.

01:04:37.000 What's he weight right now walking around?

01:04:38.000 220?

01:04:40.000 It's interesting.

01:04:40.000 I don't know.

01:04:41.000 I don't know, Brian.

01:04:42.000 He's definitely got a little bit of fat on his body.

01:04:45.000 Yeah, he's also got a lot of muscle on his body.

01:04:46.000 He's got a little bit jiggling going on there.

01:04:48.000 Look at that.

01:04:50.000 Matt Serra, very excited.

01:04:54.000 Weidman.

01:04:54.000 His name's Weidman, motherfucker.

01:04:55.000 He's the champ of the world.

01:04:56.000 How dare you?

01:04:57.000 How good did he look?

01:04:58.000 Yeah, he looked awesome.

01:04:59.000 No one fucks up Machida like that.

01:05:01.000 Look at that.

01:05:01.000 Boom!

01:05:02.000 With that right hand.

01:05:03.000 I see you having a beard in the back.

01:05:05.000 Boom!

01:05:05.000 Is that him?

01:05:07.000 Boom!

01:05:07.000 Check this out.

01:05:09.000 Boom!

01:05:09.000 He fakes it.

01:05:10.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:05:14.000 Is he hitting the back of the head there?

01:05:15.000 Yeah, but if it's in transition, you're fine.

01:05:17.000 Where is he hitting the back of the head?

01:05:18.000 Boom.

01:05:18.000 You'll see he hits him in the back of the head.

01:05:19.000 Yeah.

01:05:20.000 Right there?

01:05:21.000 Boom.

01:05:21.000 Oh, yeah.

01:05:22.000 Well, that was kind of behind the ear.

01:05:23.000 Yeah.

01:05:24.000 In transition, you're good, though.

01:05:25.000 It doesn't matter.

01:05:26.000 They tell you that, too.

01:05:27.000 They tell you that in the back.

01:05:27.000 In transition.

01:05:28.000 In the back, they go, if you're in transition, you turn your head and you get hit on the back of the head.

01:05:32.000 That's not you.

01:05:33.000 Boom.

01:05:34.000 These are legal.

01:05:34.000 He's out here.

01:05:35.000 He's out here.

01:05:35.000 Boom.

01:05:35.000 Now he's out.

01:05:36.000 Boom.

01:05:37.000 Boom.

01:05:37.000 So he took about four that he probably shouldn't have.

01:05:40.000 No, I think it was perfect.

01:05:42.000 Perfect.

01:05:42.000 Perfect stoppage.

01:05:43.000 His arm went limp.

01:05:44.000 You know what's kind of crazy when it comes to back of the head?

01:05:46.000 Those head kicks.

01:05:48.000 When you think about a head kick, you're wrapping around.

01:05:50.000 You're completely targeting the back of the head.

01:05:53.000 The thing is, though, like they said, it's in transition.

01:05:55.000 There's nothing you can really do.

01:05:56.000 Yeah.

01:05:57.000 And like I said, they tell you in the back.

01:05:59.000 They're like, listen, man, if it's in transition, you're moving, it hits you in the back of the head.

01:06:03.000 It's on you.

01:06:04.000 Weidman and Anthony Bourdain.

01:06:06.000 Oh, I love Anthony Bourdain.

01:06:08.000 Do you watch that show?

01:06:09.000 Yeah.

01:06:09.000 Please don't know.

01:06:10.000 I watch it too.

01:06:11.000 What is this?

01:06:11.000 Hercules is shooting a lion?

01:06:12.000 This is Hercules, dude.

01:06:14.000 That's The Rock is Hercules.

01:06:15.000 Yes, he is.

01:06:16.000 100% natural.

01:06:17.000 45 years old.

01:06:18.000 Never done a steroid in his life.

01:06:20.000 No, never, man.

01:06:20.000 He's not 45. How old is he?

01:06:22.000 35, I think.

01:06:24.000 Shut the fuck up.

01:06:26.000 The Rock?

01:06:26.000 He was making shit up.

01:06:27.000 He's not 35. He is every bit of 40-something.

01:06:30.000 No.

01:06:31.000 No, no, no.

01:06:32.000 You're wrong.

01:06:33.000 Why do you say you're wrong when you don't know?

01:06:35.000 First of all, Brian, he's 42. Ah, damn it!

01:06:39.000 Is he?

01:06:40.000 It's insane.

01:06:41.000 He's 42. The thing is, I don't need to check.

01:06:43.000 I don't need to check.

01:06:45.000 Yeah, you're always wrong.

01:06:46.000 I'm always wrong.

01:06:47.000 Pretty much always wrong.

01:06:48.000 You know, give or take, I meant 35. Come on, guys.

01:06:51.000 Seven years.

01:06:51.000 What are we fucking splitting hairs?

01:06:53.000 You know?

01:06:54.000 I'm only arguing over it.

01:06:55.000 You guys are all like accurate.

01:06:57.000 So boring.

01:06:59.000 Whatever.

01:07:02.000 I just like being, what is the word?

01:07:05.000 Incendiary?

01:07:06.000 Have you ever ridden a motorcycle, man?

01:07:08.000 Yes, a long time ago.

01:07:09.000 No, never.

01:07:10.000 Do you want to?

01:07:11.000 Really, really bad.

01:07:12.000 Fuck yeah, right?

01:07:13.000 I'm going to buy one, man.

01:07:13.000 I see those goddamn commercials.

01:07:15.000 It looks like so much fun.

01:07:16.000 I know.

01:07:16.000 So dangerous, though, right?

01:07:17.000 I just rode my bike through Venice, and I was scared as shit.

01:07:20.000 Super dangerous.

01:07:21.000 I was on the road.

01:07:21.000 It's more dangerous, because you can't move.

01:07:23.000 You can't really get away from shit.

01:07:26.000 But they say your chances of crashing on your bike is 99% the first year you buy one.

01:07:31.000 Yeah.

01:07:31.000 Motorcycle.

01:07:32.000 Yeah, motorcycle.

01:07:33.000 Every biker will tell you it's a matter of time.

01:07:35.000 You're going to crash.

01:07:36.000 Yeah, it's just how bad is it?

01:07:37.000 I saw a guy die.

01:07:38.000 Did you?

01:07:39.000 I just don't want to do it.

01:07:40.000 It was really weird.

01:07:41.000 He slid off his bike and hit a curb and hit his head.

01:07:44.000 That was it.

01:07:44.000 You saw it?

01:07:45.000 Yep.

01:07:46.000 Whoa.

01:07:46.000 What'd you do?

01:07:47.000 Anything?

01:07:47.000 Sucked his dick while he was dead.

01:07:49.000 Jacked him off.

01:07:49.000 Stopped.

01:07:50.000 Stopped.

01:07:50.000 I got out, jacked him off, jumped back in my car.

01:07:53.000 I got out, fucked him, came in his ass.

01:07:56.000 Took his watch.

01:07:57.000 Drove home with his wallet in my pocket.

01:07:59.000 There it is.

01:08:00.000 Yeah, that's bad news.

01:08:02.000 Gordon's a beast, man.

01:08:03.000 Oh, I know how this guy on the left feels right now, losing the Ultimate Fighter.

01:08:06.000 You think your life is over?

01:08:08.000 I started applying at Monsters.com.

01:08:10.000 Put a resume on after the Ultimate Fighter on Monsters.com.

01:08:14.000 What's Monsters.com?

01:08:15.000 It's a job search place where you upload your resume and people try to find you for a job.

01:08:20.000 Oh, man.

01:08:21.000 I'm making that up.

01:08:22.000 I didn't do that.

01:08:22.000 But I felt like doing it.

01:08:24.000 Look at this.

01:08:25.000 Very exciting.

01:08:26.000 Not matter the ring card, girl.

01:08:29.000 I didn't notice.

01:08:33.000 That guy's got a future.

01:08:34.000 He's got a future.

01:08:35.000 They both do.

01:08:35.000 Yeah.

01:08:36.000 You're right.

01:08:37.000 Diego Lima's got a future, too.

01:08:40.000 What is Diego Lima now?

01:08:42.000 What does his contract say now?

01:08:44.000 He still fights in the UFC? Yes.

01:08:45.000 He'll get one more shot.

01:08:46.000 You lose that one, you're done.

01:08:48.000 Really?

01:08:48.000 Scariest fight I've ever had.

01:08:50.000 Lose to Roy Nelson.

01:08:51.000 Then they tell me, oh, we want you to fight in your hometown.

01:08:53.000 No pressure.

01:08:53.000 Hometown.

01:08:55.000 I think four months later.

01:08:56.000 Who'd you fight?

01:08:57.000 Chase Gormley.

01:08:58.000 And beat the brakes off him in 37 seconds.

01:09:02.000 37 seconds in front of the home crowd.

01:09:03.000 Who was your fight after that?

01:09:05.000 I just was throwing like this.

01:09:07.000 I was so nervous.

01:09:09.000 I had no idea what I was doing.

01:09:12.000 I was so nervous, man.

01:09:14.000 Most nervous I've ever been, because I thought if I lost that, I wouldn't have a career.

01:09:17.000 Which is kind of true.

01:09:18.000 All that work.

01:09:19.000 Kind of true.

01:09:20.000 Yeah, it is kind of true, right?

01:09:21.000 You lose that one, the UFC goes, oh, we're good, man.

01:09:24.000 Has anybody ever gone from the UFC, gotten cut, came back...

01:09:28.000 From the Ultimate Fighter?

01:09:29.000 Yeah.

01:09:30.000 Came back and, like, made a run at the title.

01:09:36.000 So far.

01:09:36.000 Nobody, right?

01:09:37.000 I can't think of anyone.

01:09:38.000 No.

01:09:39.000 Who's like the best guy that's been cut and looks sensational in other organizations?

01:09:45.000 Probably Anthony Johnson.

01:09:47.000 Well, at one point, Nate Marquardt, who at Strikeforce won, beat Tyron Woodley.

01:09:51.000 Yeah, but he was in Strikeforce.

01:09:53.000 Still in the Zufa banner.

01:09:55.000 That's true.

01:09:55.000 Yeah, because Zufa owned him at the time and gave him the title shot.

01:10:00.000 That's a good question.

01:10:01.000 Anthony Johnson got cut, but that was mostly a weight issue thing.

01:10:04.000 It was a weight issue.

01:10:06.000 But God damn, did he look good.

01:10:08.000 Think about it.

01:10:08.000 When you get cut from the UFC and you move on, especially a young guy, I'm trying to think who does well.

01:10:15.000 Melvin Gillard just won, but that's really his first one.

01:10:18.000 Did Gillard win?

01:10:19.000 He did win.

01:10:20.000 He missed weight though again.

01:10:21.000 He did again?

01:10:22.000 Yes.

01:10:23.000 It's frustrating.

01:10:24.000 Oh my god.

01:10:25.000 Do you not get any purse when that happens?

01:10:27.000 No, you lose 20% of it.

01:10:30.000 The other guy gets 20%.

01:10:32.000 It's so interesting to see different guys and their different weight cutting strategies and Some guys believe in drinking distilled water and some guys say you shouldn't drink distilled water.

01:10:43.000 They're trying to rid their body of electrolytes so it's easy to...

01:10:47.000 Look at this.

01:10:48.000 Boom!

01:10:49.000 Gordon with the big right hand.

01:10:51.000 The idea behind it is that you rid your body of all these electrolytes, keep pumping it with fluids, and then the fluids just flush out of your system quicker and then you can replenish them quicker.

01:11:06.000 You know, I gotta have Dolce on and talk to him about that show.

01:11:09.000 Yeah, I'd say whatever Dolce's doing, probably stick to that, everybody.

01:11:12.000 Yeah.

01:11:13.000 Yeah, Tiago Alves never looked better in his last fight.

01:11:16.000 That's another thing, a lot of guys are coming in.

01:11:18.000 They're like real light, like the week of.

01:11:21.000 Like Machida...

01:11:23.000 Well, Machida walked around at 203 pounds.

01:11:26.000 When he was champ, when he was competing at 205, he was 203 pounds.

01:11:31.000 That's just his natural weight.

01:11:33.000 Yeah, that's just what he does.

01:11:34.000 You know, he's thinking of going to 170. No.

01:11:37.000 Yep.

01:11:37.000 That's what he said in the interview?

01:11:38.000 The week of the fight, they said he could go to 170. I was asking them.

01:11:41.000 I was in the locker room or the training room with them.

01:11:44.000 See, that's the thing.

01:11:46.000 People ask me about cutting to 205 all the time.

01:11:48.000 When you go down a weight class, everyone's skills get better and everyone's way faster.

01:11:53.000 So my advantage at heavyweight is cardio, speed, right?

01:11:57.000 When you go down to 205, now it's almost even.

01:12:00.000 It doesn't become your advantage, really, I don't think.

01:12:02.000 Right.

01:12:02.000 This comes a point of diminishing returns, right?

01:12:05.000 Yes.

01:12:05.000 That hits the...

01:12:06.000 There was you.

01:12:06.000 Look at him.

01:12:07.000 You're on TV. You can check that on UFC Now.

01:12:11.000 Looks like he's wearing eyeliner, but he's just got that natural sort of dark thing on.

01:12:15.000 Just a black eye all the time.

01:12:16.000 Just the pure black eye.

01:12:18.000 Smoldering.

01:12:19.000 Smoldering is right.

01:12:20.000 Straight smoldering.

01:12:21.000 A little cutie on UFC Now.

01:12:22.000 Here it is.

01:12:23.000 Here's your show again.

01:12:24.000 American Muscle.

01:12:27.000 Look at me.

01:12:28.000 I'm picking up weights and I'm doing it on some fake grass.

01:12:33.000 Fake grass.

01:12:33.000 Everybody has to have fake grass.

01:12:35.000 He builds champions from the inside out.

01:12:38.000 Dun, dun, dun, dun.

01:12:39.000 It looked like that was Rashad Evans.

01:12:41.000 Yeah.

01:12:43.000 All these guys are running.

01:12:45.000 Your strength coach had me...

01:12:47.000 Lauren Lando?

01:12:48.000 Yeah, invited me to come run with the NFL. Did you do it?

01:12:52.000 No, I did not.

01:12:53.000 You're a pussy.

01:12:54.000 I had to get on a plane to go to Mexico.

01:12:55.000 I doubt that.

01:12:56.000 Didn't want to get humiliated.

01:12:57.000 Didn't want to get humiliated, by the way.

01:12:59.000 I would have come up with an excuse anyway.

01:13:00.000 Because guess what?

01:13:01.000 I don't want to have to try to run against the Denver Broncos.

01:13:03.000 No, you're not running against them.

01:13:06.000 You're...

01:13:06.000 No, no, no.

01:13:06.000 You're jumping their work out.

01:13:07.000 Hey, Brennan.

01:13:08.000 Yes, I am.

01:13:09.000 In my mind.

01:13:10.000 The mind of Brian Callen.

01:13:11.000 Yeah, he's running.

01:13:12.000 Oh, then definitely don't show up.

01:13:13.000 I'm running against them.

01:13:14.000 I'm running against them.

01:13:15.000 Because not only are you not going to win, but they're dicks and are slapping the face as they run by me.

01:13:19.000 That's exactly right.

01:13:19.000 Yeah, definitely don't show up then.

01:13:21.000 I thought you were going as like a fanboy.

01:13:23.000 It'd be cool for you.

01:13:24.000 Hey, even if I was, it doesn't make me feel good about myself.

01:13:26.000 How many times a week are you working out, Brian?

01:13:28.000 You talk a lot about working out.

01:13:29.000 Twice a day.

01:13:30.000 I don't know if you know that.

01:13:32.000 No, quite honestly.

01:13:33.000 Be real.

01:13:34.000 I do something almost every day.

01:13:35.000 Really?

01:13:36.000 Yeah.

01:13:36.000 You do something almost every day.

01:13:38.000 You know what?

01:13:38.000 Can you not like...

01:13:39.000 Really?

01:13:41.000 You made up a nose job.

01:13:42.000 So it's a little tough.

01:13:43.000 I didn't make up a nose job.

01:13:45.000 I bailed out, but I had to go back to it.

01:13:46.000 You made up, you had a nose job.

01:13:47.000 That'd be a weird thing to make up, wouldn't it?

01:13:49.000 I know, but you definitely made up the part about them taking cartilage out of your nose and putting it in your nose.

01:13:52.000 Your details are super sketchy.

01:13:53.000 Here's what they did.

01:13:54.000 They took cartilage and they put it under right here.

01:13:59.000 That never happened.

01:14:00.000 You can just...

01:14:01.000 Here's the problem.

01:14:02.000 I think you're confused.

01:14:02.000 If you're a doctor, please write in about how that happened.

01:14:05.000 They take a plastic splint, and they do put it right there where you're talking about.

01:14:09.000 I had that.

01:14:09.000 To sort of keep that thing up.

01:14:10.000 They did that to me, too.

01:14:12.000 But it's plastic.

01:14:13.000 It's not cartilage.

01:14:13.000 No, no, no.

01:14:14.000 That's exactly what he said.

01:14:15.000 He said, when you were under, you were under for a long time, your nose collapsed.

01:14:18.000 A long time.

01:14:18.000 Days.

01:14:19.000 I was under for days.

01:14:20.000 Anesthesia for days.

01:14:21.000 Michael Jackson stuff.

01:14:22.000 And I had to take, I had to add a piece of cartilage to it.

01:14:26.000 Right under here.

01:14:27.000 Yeah, that's what he's calling his dick.

01:14:29.000 Where did they get it from?

01:14:31.000 Probably from the inside.

01:14:33.000 I have spare cartilage.

01:14:34.000 Brian, there's no spare cartilage.

01:14:36.000 I'm not a doctor, guys.

01:14:38.000 I think this is a long time ago.

01:14:40.000 We bailed you out and we're back on it.

01:14:42.000 I tried bailing you out, Brian.

01:14:44.000 This is 16 years ago.

01:14:45.000 Things get real shady when you're talking about something wrong.

01:14:46.000 Guys, I'm going to stick to my guns here.

01:14:48.000 I had cartilage in my nose.

01:14:51.000 I don't really have a dog in that race.

01:14:52.000 In Brian's defense, he is at the boxing gym all the time.

01:14:55.000 He's there a lot.

01:14:56.000 I'll give him that.

01:14:56.000 I believe that.

01:14:57.000 Boxing a lot.

01:14:58.000 I like working out.

01:14:59.000 Yeah, it's good for you.

01:15:00.000 You need it.

01:15:01.000 I feel better.

01:15:02.000 If I don't want to work out, I get a little crazy.

01:15:04.000 Yeah.

01:15:04.000 By the way, your boy Lauren took me through a workout for an hour in that Denver altitude, and I didn't lift a lot of weights.

01:15:11.000 Let me tell you something.

01:15:12.000 I'm having trouble walking around right now.

01:15:14.000 Oh, this is supposed to be a good fight.

01:15:16.000 This happened earlier.

01:15:17.000 Adriano Martins.

01:15:19.000 Homeboy kicks from the nuts.

01:15:20.000 Does he?

01:15:22.000 Martins is the guy that Donald Cerrone KO'd.

01:15:24.000 He's a jiu-jitsu champion.

01:15:26.000 Yeah, he's a jiu-jitsu guy.

01:15:27.000 With a bad head kick.

01:15:28.000 Oh, it was a McNasty head kick.

01:15:31.000 Yeah, it was a shin to the neck.

01:15:33.000 Damn!

01:15:33.000 This guy's looking like he's just walking in.

01:15:34.000 Bang, bang, bang.

01:15:36.000 Not a lot of head movement.

01:15:37.000 Not a lot of technique.

01:15:38.000 Just straight forward.

01:15:40.000 Muscular guys are just walking in.

01:15:42.000 Well, the dude has good striking and good jiu-jitsu too.

01:15:45.000 Really good jiu-jitsu.

01:15:46.000 Definitely better than striking.

01:15:48.000 The guy with the beard or the guy who are you talking about?

01:15:50.000 The guy without the beard.

01:15:52.000 Martins.

01:15:53.000 He's the guy that Cerrone KO'd in his last fight.

01:15:58.000 But his Muay Thai is very good too, man.

01:16:04.000 There's so many good fighters now.

01:16:05.000 It's just such a crazy time for the sport.

01:16:07.000 Crazy.

01:16:08.000 It's amazing.

01:16:08.000 I mean, you're seeing these guys in other organizations.

01:16:12.000 You're seeing these guys in other shows.

01:16:14.000 You're seeing every week, like, every time there's a new car, there's some new guy who's coming up.

01:16:20.000 You know what was weird?

01:16:20.000 At the UFC Expo, obviously it's the UFC Expo, so everyone's there looking for UFC fighters.

01:16:25.000 I can't walk through, right?

01:16:27.000 It's a beast.

01:16:27.000 You have to have security.

01:16:28.000 Most UFC fighters do.

01:16:30.000 If you're a popular fighter, you can't walk through.

01:16:33.000 Chandler from Bellator.

01:16:35.000 I saw him like, oh shit, there's Chandler.

01:16:37.000 I've never seen him.

01:16:38.000 Not one person stopped him.

01:16:41.000 Could walk straight through.

01:16:42.000 That's the difference.

01:16:44.000 Oh, you want to go to Bellator?

01:16:46.000 Good luck.

01:16:47.000 No sponsors.

01:16:49.000 No one knows who you are.

01:16:50.000 People might kind of watch, but not really unless you're Rampage Jackson.

01:16:53.000 For now, do you think that if Bellator sticks around and changes its goofy fucking name?

01:16:58.000 I think, look, they're on Spike TV. Oh, nice elbow.

01:17:01.000 Straight down the middle.

01:17:02.000 And I think the biggest move they've ever made, Hiram Scott Coker.

01:17:06.000 Oh yeah, that is nice.

01:17:07.000 They gotta get some young talent though, man.

01:17:09.000 You can't be...

01:17:10.000 I mean, I love Rampage, but you need to build your own.

01:17:13.000 You can't have ex-UFC guys.

01:17:15.000 Right, but that was how they built that pay-per-view.

01:17:18.000 They sold 100,000 pay-per-views.

01:17:20.000 The reason why they did it was because of Tito Ortiz and because of Rampage.

01:17:23.000 I agree.

01:17:23.000 Yeah, that's great.

01:17:24.000 Oh!

01:17:25.000 Beautiful straight left.

01:17:26.000 Oh, and a kick to the saccaroonie.

01:17:28.000 Ouch.

01:17:29.000 Down.

01:17:29.000 Dick shot.

01:17:30.000 Down.

01:17:31.000 Dick shot.

01:17:32.000 That was another thing that I talked to Duke Rufus about, and Delegrate says the same thing.

01:17:37.000 He said, you gotta wear a tie cup.

01:17:38.000 Those steel tie cups.

01:17:40.000 Steel cup.

01:17:40.000 Oh, your boy sent me one.

01:17:42.000 I got a diamond cup.

01:17:43.000 Diamond cup.

01:17:44.000 Yeah, it was dope.

01:17:45.000 Loved it.

01:17:45.000 Great, right?

01:17:45.000 Loved it, yeah.

01:17:46.000 It really protects you?

01:17:48.000 It protects this dime piece of a dick I got.

01:17:50.000 Dime piece.

01:17:51.000 Only the best for this thing.

01:17:53.000 But this is what I was going to tell you.

01:17:55.000 What Delegrate said and what Duke Rufus said is like the tie cups are steel.

01:18:00.000 And so when someone kicks you, it hurts their foot.

01:18:03.000 That makes sense.

01:18:03.000 Yeah, and it just completely snugs up against your junk.

01:18:08.000 So it can't go anywhere.

01:18:09.000 I might just wear one anyway.

01:18:10.000 It's like Snuffleupagus and a ski mask.

01:18:12.000 Yeah, I mean, you're tying it in place.

01:18:14.000 You said it feels uncomfortable and it wedges you.

01:18:16.000 You tie it in place?

01:18:17.000 Yeah, you tie it like a wedge.

01:18:19.000 It goes up your ass like a G-string.

01:18:21.000 Yeah.

01:18:22.000 But after the fight is over, first of all, the area near your butthole must smell awful.

01:18:27.000 That's strange.

01:18:29.000 You can wear it to the mall.

01:18:30.000 Get ready to watch this.

01:18:32.000 I'm telling you guys, you want to see this.

01:18:34.000 He goes, you kick me in the nuts?

01:18:36.000 You kick me in the nuts?

01:18:38.000 Alright.

01:18:39.000 Boom!

01:18:41.000 Eve Levine was on that one.

01:18:42.000 Beautiful right hand.

01:18:44.000 Very nice.

01:18:45.000 Very nice.

01:18:45.000 Guys get upset when you kick them in the nuts.

01:18:47.000 It's got a pretty decent back.

01:18:48.000 It's a good call there, Brennan.

01:18:49.000 Good back structure there.

01:18:50.000 You called it.

01:18:50.000 What happened earlier today, Brian?

01:18:52.000 Oh.

01:18:53.000 Yeah.

01:18:54.000 I read on Twitter what happened.

01:18:56.000 I know.

01:18:57.000 I'm not that smart.

01:18:59.000 I was just saying.

01:19:00.000 Yeah.

01:19:01.000 Did you remember the part where I said, I heard this was a good fight?

01:19:04.000 And I said, yeah, someone gets kicked in the nuts.

01:19:06.000 Not a close listener, guys.

01:19:09.000 Not when it's not about you.

01:19:10.000 I'm not all about details.

01:19:11.000 If we're talking about you, you'd be about the details.

01:19:13.000 Yeah, I get very cute in.

01:19:15.000 I get very cute in.

01:19:18.000 In Brian's world, he had a nose job in The Rocks, 25 years old.

01:19:24.000 It wasn't a nose job.

01:19:25.000 It was a deviated septum.

01:19:26.000 There's a difference, man.

01:19:27.000 I can't tell you when I told people we were going to do this, but look at that beautiful right hook.

01:19:31.000 Oh my goodness.

01:19:31.000 Did everybody say, go easy on me?

01:19:33.000 Oh yeah, that's all they said.

01:19:34.000 Be nice to Callen.

01:19:35.000 Do you understand that Brian Callen's like my brother, you fucking idiots?

01:19:38.000 There's people listening.

01:19:40.000 We love each other.

01:19:41.000 He thought The Rock was 24 years old.

01:19:43.000 And by the way, he deserves it.

01:19:45.000 He deserves everything he gets.

01:19:46.000 He didn't have cartilage put in his fucking nose.

01:19:48.000 We all know that.

01:19:49.000 We're going to let it go.

01:19:50.000 I'll call the doctor right now, you guys.

01:19:53.000 Probably really isn't a black belt in Taekwondo, but it's okay.

01:19:55.000 It's okay.

01:19:55.000 Shh.

01:19:56.000 Keep it down.

01:19:57.000 Keep it down.

01:19:58.000 Details.

01:20:00.000 What's his face as a wrestler in this?

01:20:02.000 Channing Tatum.

01:20:05.000 Hung with him in Vegas one weekend.

01:20:07.000 Oh my goodness, this is that movie about that fucking crazy asshole.

01:20:11.000 This is that movie about...

01:20:12.000 Schultz?

01:20:13.000 Yes.

01:20:13.000 Oh boy.

01:20:14.000 Dave Schultz and Mark Schultz.

01:20:16.000 What?

01:20:16.000 He got shot by that guy who was a patron.

01:20:19.000 Yeah, what the fuck was his name?

01:20:21.000 Damn, it looked good.

01:20:22.000 Crazy guy.

01:20:23.000 His name was...

01:20:24.000 It's supposed to be a good movie.

01:20:24.000 He was a big mogul or came from a family.

01:20:28.000 God damn it.

01:20:29.000 Oh man.

01:20:30.000 What the hell was his name?

01:20:34.000 I can't remember.

01:20:36.000 Let's see.

01:20:37.000 It's not about me.

01:20:38.000 I'll follow it up right here.

01:20:39.000 It was killed by DuPont.

01:20:41.000 John DuPont.

01:20:42.000 John DuPont, right.

01:20:43.000 Really rich guy.

01:20:44.000 I like to wrestle with people.

01:20:45.000 Yeah.

01:20:46.000 And Steve Carell is playing DuPont.

01:20:48.000 Wow.

01:20:49.000 I love it.

01:20:49.000 That'll be a good movie.

01:20:50.000 And apparently he knocks it out of a fucking park.

01:20:53.000 Really?

01:20:53.000 Yeah, by the way, Channing Tatum.

01:20:55.000 Dime piece.

01:20:56.000 You need to make your body look way better if you want to play Mark Schultz, bitch.

01:21:01.000 How about that?

01:21:02.000 He's a little chunky in 22 Jump Street.

01:21:04.000 Smooth and chubby.

01:21:05.000 It's because he's hanging out with Joe, what's his name?

01:21:07.000 Jonah Hill.

01:21:08.000 Jonah Hill's fabulous.

01:21:08.000 He's the guy who looks great compared to Jonah Hill.

01:21:10.000 Well, he's like, yeah, I still kind of have it.

01:21:12.000 But if you notice in 22 Jump Street, and this kind of stuff I know is because I'm super vain, he had his shirt on the entire time.

01:21:18.000 The other one, you take your shirt off.

01:21:19.000 From what I saw in that preview, he looked alright.

01:21:21.000 Well, yes.

01:21:22.000 I mean, in my opinion, that's like offensive to me because if you've ever seen what Mark Schultz looks like, Mark Schultz, the wrestler, is a fucking animal.

01:21:30.000 A beast.

01:21:31.000 Well, it'd be like The Rock playing Hercules and it's like a smooth build.

01:21:34.000 That fool is jacked to play Hercules.

01:21:37.000 He's got to be.

01:21:37.000 He's pretty jacked.

01:21:38.000 Well, Schultz, when he was in his prime, too, he used to grab guys, he used to get guys in illegal moves.

01:21:45.000 He'd use Kimuras, and he would hit a Kimura and just rip guys' shoulders off while he was taking them down.

01:21:51.000 Mangled guys.

01:21:53.000 I mean, he was a fucking animal.

01:21:54.000 I don't know the story of that movie, but I'll for sure buy a ticket to that.

01:21:58.000 It's a fascinating story because these guys were all broke, and DuPont would pay these guys to come to his compound.

01:22:05.000 He built this wrestling thing and wrestle with them and roll around with them and get all sweaty and gay with them.

01:22:11.000 Wait, are you being for reals?

01:22:12.000 Yes.

01:22:13.000 Oh, it was gay?

01:22:14.000 Mm-hmm.

01:22:15.000 Was he gay?

01:22:16.000 I don't know.

01:22:16.000 Are we being funny or not?

01:22:16.000 No, no, I'm not being funny at all.

01:22:18.000 It's totally true.

01:22:18.000 And he wound up killing Dave Schultz, who was a great wrestler.

01:22:24.000 Don't want to see the movie now.

01:22:26.000 I mean, he just told me the whole plot.

01:22:27.000 Am I right?

01:22:28.000 No, well, it's based on a real story, bro.

01:22:30.000 It's based on some shit.

01:22:30.000 Yeah, man.

01:22:31.000 No, I'm just kidding.

01:22:31.000 It's more of the movie.

01:22:32.000 I'm just kidding.

01:22:33.000 The movie's different.

01:22:34.000 In the movie, he becomes a werewolf and he can fly.

01:22:36.000 Now I'll buy it.

01:22:37.000 I'll tell you what.

01:22:38.000 I saw that new horror movie with...

01:22:40.000 Does anyone like scary movies here or no?

01:22:42.000 No?

01:22:42.000 Yeah, I love scary movies.

01:22:44.000 The new one with Eric Bana?

01:22:45.000 You know what I'm talking about?

01:22:46.000 What is it?

01:22:47.000 It just came out last week.

01:22:49.000 You know what I'm talking about or no?

01:22:50.000 What is it?

01:22:52.000 Yeah, he's a cop and it's supposed to be a true story.

01:22:54.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:22:55.000 Oh, yeah.

01:22:57.000 Scary as shit.

01:22:57.000 What's the scariest movie for you?

01:22:59.000 Scariest movie of all time?

01:23:00.000 The Conjuring.

01:23:01.000 The Conjuring.

01:23:02.000 Oh, what did you say?

01:23:03.000 The Exorcist?

01:23:04.000 Yeah, I am.

01:23:05.000 God damn it.

01:23:05.000 Yeah, I am going to say The Exorcist.

01:23:06.000 This is how I know you're all of 60 years old.

01:23:08.000 Yeah, whatever.

01:23:08.000 That movie sucks.

01:23:09.000 The Conjuring.

01:23:09.000 Actually, The Conjuring was scary.

01:23:11.000 I'll give you that it was scary.

01:23:12.000 No, this new movie with Eric Bana.

01:23:14.000 What's it called?

01:23:14.000 What is it?

01:23:15.000 Deliverance from Evil with Eric Bana.

01:23:19.000 I'll tell you what.

01:23:20.000 Definitely slept with my lights on.

01:23:22.000 Yeah, I'm not afraid of it.

01:23:23.000 I had my lights on.

01:23:24.000 Did you really?

01:23:25.000 This shit was scary, man.

01:23:26.000 Joe, what's your scariest movie all time?

01:23:27.000 I live by myself, man.

01:23:29.000 Scariest movie of all time.

01:23:30.000 I don't know.

01:23:31.000 Don't say the actress.

01:23:32.000 I don't know.

01:23:32.000 I mean, not the actresses today.

01:23:34.000 The Omen was scary.

01:23:35.000 I would have to think about that.

01:23:38.000 Angel Heart scared the shit out of me, man.

01:23:41.000 You got anything new, Brian?

01:23:43.000 No, I don't.

01:23:44.000 You got anything new?

01:23:44.000 No, I do not.

01:23:45.000 Angel Heart.

01:23:46.000 It scared the shit out of me.

01:23:48.000 For real.

01:23:49.000 The Exorcism's a cop-out, man.

01:23:52.000 Maybe greatest of all time, though.

01:23:54.000 No!

01:23:55.000 What?

01:23:55.000 The greatest of all time?

01:23:56.000 As far as a scary movie?

01:23:57.000 Horror movie?

01:23:57.000 Yeah.

01:23:57.000 Oh, no.

01:23:59.000 No, because you've got to put them in perspective.

01:24:01.000 It might have been great down then.

01:24:03.000 Watch it now, you're bored as fuck.

01:24:05.000 I actually did watch it recently, about four years ago, and I was pretty damn scared.

01:24:09.000 In the middle, you were watching it, you were tweeting and checking your Instagram.

01:24:13.000 I didn't tweet back then.

01:24:14.000 See, that's the thing.

01:24:15.000 When I saw Delivers from Evil, when I saw that movie, I saw it at the marina theaters where there's that dining experience.

01:24:21.000 This fuck next to me is chewing on popcorn.

01:24:25.000 He has like a margarita.

01:24:27.000 It fucks up the whole experience.

01:24:28.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:24:28.000 Yeah.

01:24:29.000 I would be terrified.

01:24:31.000 Chompy Chompers over here is on Twizzlers and Sour Patch Kids.

01:24:35.000 Balls deep in his girl.

01:24:37.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:24:37.000 I'm like, dude, reclining back and shit.

01:24:39.000 It's not as scary.

01:24:40.000 He's a loud watcher.

01:24:42.000 The Shining.

01:24:42.000 The Shining's a good one.

01:24:43.000 The Shining is a good one.

01:24:44.000 Shining's legit.

01:24:45.000 That was scary as shit.

01:24:46.000 That might be my scariest.

01:24:48.000 Filmed in Colorado.

01:24:49.000 I might jump ship and say...

01:24:52.000 I don't have any characters, so I don't usually stick to my original.

01:24:55.000 But I'd say that The Shining is probably...

01:24:58.000 I'm going with The Conjuring.

01:24:59.000 Texas Chainsaw Massacre was pretty fucking scary, too, because it really pictures...

01:25:03.000 The original one or the one with Jessica Biel?

01:25:05.000 The original one.

01:25:05.000 No, I liked the one with Jessica Biel.

01:25:07.000 Yeah?

01:25:07.000 Well, I liked it because of Jessica Biel.

01:25:09.000 Me too.

01:25:10.000 I'll take it because of that.

01:25:11.000 That was a scary goddamn movie.

01:25:13.000 You know what else was scary, man?

01:25:14.000 Jaws.

01:25:15.000 Jaws was fucking scary.

01:25:16.000 I agree.

01:25:16.000 That ruined me for the ocean.

01:25:17.000 Dude, someone got attacked by a great white off the Manhattan Beach.

01:25:20.000 Yeah, but I think they were long-distance swimmers, right?

01:25:23.000 And they had hooked the great white.

01:25:25.000 It was a seven-footer.

01:25:26.000 Hey, guess what, Brian?

01:25:27.000 I don't give a fuck what happened.

01:25:29.000 He got attacked by a great white.

01:25:30.000 But they did say he was fishing, and the guy caught a great white.

01:25:34.000 Yeah, he was...

01:25:35.000 What are you going to do with it?

01:25:36.000 What are you going to do with it?

01:25:37.000 He was reeling it in.

01:25:38.000 40 minutes later, these long-distance swimmers swim between the rod and basically the shark, and the shark bit the dude.

01:25:44.000 In the torso.

01:25:45.000 He's fine, though.

01:25:45.000 Yeah, he's fine.

01:25:46.000 Gangster tattoo.

01:25:47.000 That is, right?

01:25:48.000 Super cool tattoo.

01:25:50.000 I just want to get bit, just got to tell the story.

01:25:52.000 Oh, God.

01:25:54.000 Yeah, Jaws was scary, though.

01:25:55.000 I'll give you that.

01:25:56.000 Jaws was a scary one.

01:25:56.000 Yeah, that was very scary.

01:25:57.000 I'm guessing no one's seen The Conjuring.

01:25:59.000 I have.

01:26:00.000 I saw it.

01:26:00.000 Here's another one that was scary as fuck.

01:26:02.000 28 Days Later.

01:26:04.000 That was scary as fuck.

01:26:05.000 See, that's Rhonda's favorite movie.

01:26:06.000 I'm not...

01:26:07.000 That does nothing for me.

01:26:08.000 That does nothing for me.

01:26:09.000 You know what scared me was...

01:26:10.000 What was that movie?

01:26:13.000 Paranormal Activity, the first one?

01:26:15.000 The first one.

01:26:15.000 It scared the shit out of me.

01:26:17.000 I saw the Blair Witch Project.

01:26:18.000 Did you see that?

01:26:19.000 Yeah.

01:26:19.000 When I thought it was real, I was super scared.

01:26:21.000 Yeah.

01:26:21.000 You thought it was real, huh?

01:26:22.000 It was a home camera, man, the way they filmed it.

01:26:24.000 It was pretty genius in that sense, but I didn't really.

01:26:28.000 But Blair Witch Project scared me a little bit.

01:26:30.000 And so did the second one.

01:26:32.000 Blair Witch scared me.

01:26:33.000 I saw Blair Witch with my buddy Chris McGuire.

01:26:36.000 We were working in Houston.

01:26:38.000 We were doing the Laugh Stop, which doesn't exist anymore.

01:26:41.000 And these kids that worked at the movie theater across the street came to the show and they said, hey, do you guys want to go see the Blair Witch Project, just all of us in the movie theater?

01:26:52.000 We have the keys.

01:26:53.000 And we were like, are you fucking kidding me?

01:26:55.000 And so we did a show.

01:26:56.000 I think it was like a Thursday night show.

01:26:58.000 So we did like an 8 o'clock show.

01:26:59.000 After the show, you know, say goodbye to everybody.

01:27:02.000 Go across the street.

01:27:02.000 And they turned on the movie theater.

01:27:04.000 They turned on the lights.

01:27:05.000 Locked the door.

01:27:06.000 We went in.

01:27:07.000 They turned on the fucking theater.

01:27:09.000 That's scary.

01:27:09.000 And we sat down and watched Blair Witch.

01:27:11.000 And it scared the piss out of me.

01:27:12.000 Damn.

01:27:12.000 You guys are super scared.

01:27:14.000 Well, at first I was like, this is fucking goofy.

01:27:16.000 That's how I was, yeah.

01:27:17.000 It was so low budget.

01:27:18.000 So low budget.

01:27:19.000 And then I saw it again in a movie with a bunch of people and it was whack.

01:27:22.000 People were talking.

01:27:24.000 Yeah, man.

01:27:24.000 You can't have that environment.

01:27:26.000 You need to be alone.

01:27:27.000 That's a scary setting.

01:27:28.000 Some guy brought his three-year-old.

01:27:29.000 Three-year-old was talking during the whole movie.

01:27:31.000 If you're alone in a big movie theater, you could die right there.

01:27:34.000 That could be a trap he's setting.

01:27:36.000 It's true.

01:27:37.000 Nah, they were, you know, one kid had a nose ring and he weighed 80 pounds.

01:27:43.000 It was a girl that was overweight.

01:27:45.000 Like, no one was getting hurt.

01:27:46.000 If anybody was getting hurt, it was going to be them.

01:27:49.000 But they were nice.

01:27:50.000 It was cool that they did that for us, though.

01:27:51.000 It was really fun.

01:27:52.000 Oh, by the way, I will be...

01:27:54.000 Are you going to plug your fucking dates?

01:27:56.000 July 18th and 19th, I'll be at the West Palm Beach Improv.

01:28:01.000 Son of a bitch.

01:28:02.000 So make sure you come by.

01:28:03.000 I will be bringing heat.

01:28:04.000 So are we officially hunting the last week in September?

01:28:08.000 Are we doing that?

01:28:08.000 Are you down for Alaska?

01:28:10.000 Last week?

01:28:10.000 I thought you said first week.

01:28:11.000 Now you're changing it on me.

01:28:12.000 Fucking idiot.

01:28:13.000 You're changing it on me.

01:28:13.000 I gave you the dates.

01:28:14.000 I know you didn't.

01:28:15.000 You didn't give me any dates.

01:28:16.000 I have the text here.

01:28:17.000 Don't make me pull it up.

01:28:18.000 Please pull it up.

01:28:18.000 Because I will.

01:28:19.000 Because it says the last week.

01:28:20.000 No.

01:28:21.000 Hold, please.

01:28:21.000 Please hold.

01:28:22.000 What are you guys going to hunt?

01:28:23.000 Again.

01:28:24.000 Black-tailed.

01:28:25.000 This time it's going to be black-tailed deer in Alaska.

01:28:29.000 At Steve Rinella's place.

01:28:33.000 I don't hear Brian talking.

01:28:34.000 I'll tell you.

01:28:35.000 Are you around the end of September?

01:28:37.000 Yeah, I told you.

01:28:38.000 The answer is yes.

01:28:40.000 Are you around?

01:28:41.000 Yes.

01:28:41.000 So you are around the end of September.

01:28:42.000 Okay.

01:28:43.000 So it'll be like, I think the dates he gave me are like...

01:28:53.000 I think it's like the 29th, from the 29th on into October.

01:29:00.000 What are you guys, killing a black-tailed deer with bazookas or something?

01:29:03.000 No, rifles, bro.

01:29:04.000 Rifles, bro.

01:29:05.000 And maybe even a bow and arrow.

01:29:06.000 Animal lover?

01:29:07.000 I'm bringing my bow.

01:29:08.000 Yeah, well, guess who's going to shoot it?

01:29:10.000 Oh, it's 90 pounds.

01:29:10.000 Not you.

01:29:11.000 90 pounds?

01:29:11.000 Damn it!

01:29:12.000 Can't pull it back.

01:29:13.000 Oh, damn it!

01:29:14.000 Get the gym, son.

01:29:15.000 I don't want to talk about it.

01:29:15.000 I am in the gym all the time with Lauren Landau.

01:29:17.000 You're boxing.

01:29:18.000 I'm saying get on a bench press.

01:29:20.000 Hey, bro, how many pull-ups did I do?

01:29:21.000 Yeah, but you weigh eight pounds.

01:29:23.000 How many pull-ups?

01:29:24.000 You keep saying that.

01:29:25.000 But you do a kick in your legs.

01:29:26.000 You don't weigh a lot.

01:29:28.000 Don't do that.

01:29:30.000 Don't make that motion, bro.

01:29:32.000 That's what you kept doing.

01:29:33.000 See, you talk about how many pull-ups you do, but what do you weigh?

01:29:35.000 I weigh 170 pounds.

01:29:38.000 Are you 170?

01:29:38.000 You weigh about 165. You're a solid 163. About 165. I'm 170. And how many chin-ups can you do?

01:29:46.000 31. He did 31. I'll give him that.

01:29:47.000 31?

01:29:47.000 But it was like he was throwing his legs.

01:29:51.000 What do you call it?

01:29:51.000 Kipping?

01:29:52.000 Bro, it wasn't that much of a kip.

01:29:54.000 And then he goes, it's like CrossFit.

01:29:55.000 I did it at CrossFit.

01:29:56.000 I said, one, you're suspended from being my friend for two days because he said CrossFit.

01:29:59.000 Yeah, well, Brian, those aren't chin-ups.

01:30:01.000 Those are kipping chin-ups.

01:30:03.000 And the guys who do those, they do like 100. Well, I did.

01:30:06.000 You know, like Fedor, when he was a heavyweight, he used to do like 100 or 100. Really?

01:30:09.000 Oh, God.

01:30:10.000 There's a video of Fedor doing kipping chin-ups.

01:30:12.000 It's a frightening fucking guy.

01:30:14.000 Is that the one where he's in, like, the wilderness of Russia and he's, like, carrying wood and shit?

01:30:17.000 He's, like, doing his kipping chin-ups.

01:30:21.000 And he's in a sunga, like, he's in some whitey-tidies just fucking doing work.

01:30:25.000 Well, he used to wear black socks and fucking running shoes from the 80s.

01:30:30.000 Some New Balances with black socks and his whitey tighties.

01:30:34.000 But no one said shit because he's such a bastard.

01:30:36.000 Then I came to the gym and guys were in black socks and whitey tighties trying to do the same shit.

01:30:41.000 Well, it's not like they have Foot Locker in the middle of Russia.

01:30:43.000 You know where that guy lives?

01:30:45.000 Where are you getting your sneakers?

01:30:46.000 You make them yourself.

01:30:48.000 You steal them from people who are running by you.

01:30:52.000 He used to do a lot of old school training methods.

01:30:54.000 You put hand weights and throw punches.

01:30:58.000 You know where I caught up with him?

01:31:00.000 It's interesting because I was watching some old Fedor fights.

01:31:02.000 Huge Fedor fan.

01:31:04.000 Who's not?

01:31:05.000 If you're not, you're not an MMA fan.

01:31:06.000 Him and Sakuraba.

01:31:08.000 Yeah, well, Fedor was just a different thing, man.

01:31:10.000 He was a totally different thing.

01:31:11.000 But I used to go back and watch his fight.

01:31:14.000 I was watching his fights recently, and he was much bigger back in the day.

01:31:18.000 Physically bigger, stronger.

01:31:19.000 Still about 230, though.

01:31:21.000 You mean bigger than what?

01:31:21.000 Much more muscle.

01:31:22.000 Bigger than other guys, you mean, or?

01:31:23.000 More muscle than he did at the end of his career.

01:31:25.000 At the end of his career, he stopped lifting weights, done with the weights, he was just doing fight training.

01:31:30.000 But if you go back to the Fujita fight, he was thick traps, big shoulders, he was fucking strong as shit.

01:31:37.000 And somewhere along the line, he just got tired of lifting weights, I think.

01:31:40.000 I mean, I don't know what it was.

01:31:41.000 Or he got older, right?

01:31:44.000 And started losing muscle mass, maybe.

01:31:45.000 No, no.

01:31:46.000 He stopped lifting weights.

01:31:47.000 He talked about it.

01:31:48.000 He just did fight training only later on in his career.

01:31:51.000 I think he thought that technique was more important than physical strength, which is true for the most part.

01:31:56.000 I've gone towards that route, personally.

01:31:58.000 Towards technique, yeah.

01:32:00.000 I'm like, let's see.

01:32:01.000 I'm going to go in the gym and spend an hour lifting weights, throwing down weights, or I can be on the mat working on my boxing technique or jiu-jitsu in wrestling.

01:32:09.000 I'm going to go do jiu-jitsu in wrestling.

01:32:10.000 Well, you know what Steve Maxwell's thought on that is?

01:32:13.000 It was really interesting because Maxwell spent a lifetime with strength and conditioning, working with athletes.

01:32:19.000 He thinks that if you're going to lift weights for sports, you shouldn't lift weights like strength and conditioning style.

01:32:24.000 He thinks if you're doing like martial arts, if you're in the middle of like training technique, he goes, you should do like sets.

01:32:31.000 Like do sets of deadlifts, do sets of bench, do sets of chins.

01:32:35.000 You mean like eight to ten?

01:32:37.000 No, just to get stronger.

01:32:38.000 He's like, you shouldn't work on your endurance.

01:32:40.000 Like, you shouldn't be, like, doing these fucking crazy strength and conditioning workouts while you're in camp, working out for fights.

01:32:45.000 He's like, if you're...

01:32:46.000 He goes, you should lift weights to keep your muscle mass and to keep your strength, but all your conditioning should come from your kickboxing, should come from your wrestling, should come from your jiu-jitsu.

01:32:55.000 Yeah, actually, I'm actually going to Arizona on Thursday to meet with this new strength conditioning coach who Tim Tebow works with, and...

01:33:03.000 Yeah, I'm going out there with Tim, and he said the exact same thing.

01:33:07.000 This guy works with everyone.

01:33:08.000 He's like, you shouldn't have a session where you're working reps and stuff like that.

01:33:13.000 He said exactly what you just told me.

01:33:14.000 Yeah, these guys are saying that your skills are the most important thing, and your strength and all your physical strength, like the mass and size that you could put on and maintain.

01:33:23.000 He's like, you should maintain that.

01:33:25.000 You should get strong.

01:33:26.000 You should do all that.

01:33:26.000 But don't do strength and conditioning while you're in a fight camp.

01:33:30.000 Like the CrossFit stuff.

01:33:32.000 Yeah, don't do that because you're not going to have the same energy to do your jiu-jitsu work.

01:33:36.000 Like when I was doing jiu-jitsu all the time, if I would lift weights, I could lift weights in the morning and do jiu-jitsu at night.

01:33:42.000 You know why?

01:33:42.000 Because I would do like a set of bench and then I would sit around me and I would talk shit for five minutes and laugh and goof off.

01:33:49.000 And then we would do another set.

01:33:50.000 So we would get all the strength workout in, but I still had energy to train at night.

01:33:55.000 Whereas like if I do my kettlebell routine that I do, If I do that shit, that's a wrap.

01:34:00.000 You're done.

01:34:00.000 I'm done.

01:34:01.000 That's interesting, man.

01:34:02.000 When you do strength training, do you do it twice a week when you're in camp?

01:34:05.000 When I'm in camp, I do it twice a week, yeah.

01:34:07.000 Twice a week.

01:34:07.000 But out of camp, like now I lift four or five times a week.

01:34:09.000 Is it a full body thing?

01:34:10.000 I'm just trying to get bigger, stronger.

01:34:11.000 So when I go in camp, my body's going to break down.

01:34:13.000 I'm going to lose some size.

01:34:14.000 I just try to keep it, you know what I'm saying?

01:34:16.000 You break it up in body parts.

01:34:17.000 But, like, people ask me, like, even younger fighters at RAINN or Grace Academy, like, oh, like, what should I be doing in the weight room, stuff like this?

01:34:25.000 But if you're a younger fighter, you shouldn't really waste your time in the weight room.

01:34:29.000 You don't get paid to bench and squat and power clean.

01:34:32.000 You get paid to submit bitches and knock them out.

01:34:34.000 So work on submitting and knocking bitches out.

01:34:36.000 Here's the finals.

01:34:38.000 This is the light heavyweight finals, right?

01:34:40.000 Yeah, those breasts are...

01:34:42.000 Yeah, those are Gynomastica.

01:34:45.000 Gynomastica, interesting.

01:34:45.000 Corey Anderson and Matt Van Buren.

01:34:48.000 He does have a set of nipples on him, doesn't he?

01:34:49.000 Yes, he does.

01:34:50.000 That's the other dude.

01:34:51.000 The other dude does.

01:34:51.000 Not him.

01:34:52.000 That dude's straight.

01:34:52.000 Yeah, him.

01:34:53.000 Matt Van Buren's a fucking animal.

01:34:55.000 So is Corey.

01:34:56.000 This is a good fight.

01:34:57.000 Really good fight.

01:34:59.000 And this is like what we're talking about, like the high level of guys that are coming up, man.

01:35:03.000 These guys that are fighting.

01:35:05.000 I mean, you go back to the day when Forrest was fighting Stefan Bonner, and then look at these guys, and you're dealing with some pretty high level guys now.

01:35:13.000 They're a lot more well-rounded.

01:35:15.000 Yeah.

01:35:15.000 A lot more well-rounded.

01:35:18.000 First of all, that dude's 6'5".

01:35:20.000 For a 205, that's insane.

01:35:21.000 Yeah, he's a big boy.

01:35:22.000 Big boy.

01:35:23.000 Oh!

01:35:24.000 Oh, he's in trouble.

01:35:25.000 Oh, Corey's cracking him.

01:35:26.000 Oh, he's rocked, man.

01:35:27.000 He's out of it.

01:35:28.000 He's out of it.

01:35:28.000 Oh, yeah, he's in trouble, man.

01:35:30.000 He's covering up.

01:35:31.000 He's super out of it.

01:35:32.000 He's taking it.

01:35:32.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:35:35.000 No, look, he's coming back.

01:35:36.000 No, he's not.

01:35:37.000 He might be done.

01:35:38.000 He's super out of it.

01:35:40.000 Wow.

01:35:40.000 Damn.

01:35:41.000 My homeboy's coming back.

01:35:43.000 But he's still trading.

01:35:45.000 Oh my goodness.

01:35:46.000 He got hit in the eye so hard.

01:35:47.000 Oh, it's over.

01:35:47.000 This fight's over.

01:35:48.000 It's super over, man.

01:35:50.000 Corey's all over him.

01:35:51.000 No, why take him?

01:35:52.000 See, I... Just smash him.

01:35:53.000 Look at this.

01:35:54.000 Nah, he should have kept on the feet.

01:35:56.000 I don't know, man.

01:35:56.000 Because you can recover right now.

01:35:57.000 You can recover this.

01:35:58.000 Not like this.

01:35:59.000 A lot more than when you're on the feet.

01:36:00.000 Mario's going to stop it.

01:36:01.000 That's it.

01:36:02.000 That's it!

01:36:03.000 That's how you get hurt.

01:36:04.000 That's a good stoppage.

01:36:05.000 Good stoppage.

01:36:05.000 The two tough ones have just been some whoopings, son.

01:36:09.000 Corey Anderson can cry.

01:36:12.000 Power of the nipples, son.

01:36:13.000 That's what it is.

01:36:15.000 Yeah, for people who don't know, there's a bunch of different ways to get those nipples.

01:36:19.000 It doesn't mean you did steroids.

01:36:20.000 No, not at all.

01:36:21.000 Really?

01:36:22.000 Yeah, but a lot of times it means...

01:36:23.000 What are the other ways?

01:36:24.000 A lot of times it means...

01:36:25.000 Not to put you on the spot, what are the other ways again?

01:36:28.000 Purple nipples?

01:36:29.000 You can be a girl.

01:36:30.000 Real quick, how do I avoid that?

01:36:32.000 I like it because Joe got really quiet.

01:36:34.000 I'd like to hear...

01:36:35.000 Everyone just got quiet about it.

01:36:36.000 Nobody's pointing fingers.

01:36:37.000 I didn't see any needles.

01:36:38.000 Try to be nice, bro.

01:36:39.000 Try to be nice.

01:36:39.000 Okay.

01:36:40.000 There was one guy that fought in the UFC once that had a serious problem.

01:36:48.000 When he was younger, I guess he did a lot of steroids.

01:36:51.000 He was jumping up and down inside the octagon and his boobs were flopping and flopping.

01:36:59.000 He was fighting 170. Damn, Corey can crack.

01:37:03.000 Look at this.

01:37:04.000 Beautiful striking.

01:37:05.000 Boom!

01:37:06.000 Straight through the middle.

01:37:07.000 Boom!

01:37:08.000 Great straight shot.

01:37:09.000 Boom!

01:37:11.000 That fight was about 15 seconds long and his hand wraps came apart.

01:37:15.000 Who fucking wrapped his hands?

01:37:17.000 Look at that.

01:37:18.000 It's that war tape.

01:37:19.000 On the thumb it's tough.

01:37:22.000 Yeah, you never want a set of tits like that.

01:37:24.000 You don't want nipples like that.

01:37:26.000 Not that bad.

01:37:28.000 I mean, I've seen way worse.

01:37:29.000 It doesn't take away from his great performance.

01:37:31.000 Go to Gold's Gym.

01:37:33.000 You want Gino?

01:37:33.000 Go to Gold's Gym.

01:37:34.000 Is that right?

01:37:34.000 Oh my God.

01:37:35.000 Bro, get a bra on, would you?

01:37:37.000 Correct me if I'm wrong.

01:37:38.000 That place, last time I worked out there, smells like ammonia.

01:37:41.000 Smells like protein farts.

01:37:43.000 Yeah, protein farts.

01:37:44.000 That's exactly what it smells like.

01:37:45.000 Yeah, this is Nick Spendable's Mel Gibson.

01:37:48.000 Mel Gibson.

01:37:49.000 Back to work.

01:37:51.000 I love it.

01:37:52.000 Playing a bad guy.

01:37:53.000 Back to work in the Expendables.

01:37:56.000 There's my boy, Wesley Snipes.

01:38:01.000 These Expendables movies, America loves them.

01:38:03.000 There was a little talk about you fighting Wesley a long time ago, wasn't there?

01:38:06.000 It was a long time ago, yeah.

01:38:07.000 What happened with that?

01:38:08.000 He decided not to get his ass kicked.

01:38:10.000 Wait, what's the story?

01:38:11.000 Is it actually going to go down?

01:38:13.000 Yeah, we had lawyers involved and everything.

01:38:15.000 What happened?

01:38:16.000 He changed his mind.

01:38:17.000 He needed a lot of money.

01:38:18.000 He called you out?

01:38:19.000 How did he start?

01:38:20.000 It was Campbell McLaren, who was the guy who was the original producer for The Ultimate Fighter, calls me up out of nowhere and says, this is going to sound crazy.

01:38:30.000 But, would you be interested in fighting Wesley Snipes?

01:38:33.000 And I'm like, what are you talking about?

01:38:35.000 And so then they start explaining what's going on.

01:38:37.000 I was training a lot.

01:38:38.000 How long ago was this, first of all?

01:38:39.000 2006?

01:38:40.000 So Blade was out.

01:38:42.000 He did make Blade.

01:38:43.000 That would scare me out of the fight.

01:38:44.000 I think what was going on was that the IRS was coming down on him hard.

01:38:51.000 So he's looking for cash.

01:38:52.000 Yeah.

01:38:52.000 He's not unathletic, by the way.

01:38:54.000 No, he knows martial arts.

01:38:56.000 But never competed and no jiu-jitsu.

01:38:59.000 And I think he just thought I was just a grappler.

01:39:02.000 And then somewhere along the line, I don't know what happened, but he just decided not to do it.

01:39:07.000 You know, I think if you've never competed your whole life and you have these ideas, plus I think he's probably hanging around with a bunch of dudes who are taking Bolivian marching powder and like, you know what?

01:39:16.000 Just go in there and fuck everybody up, Wesley.

01:39:18.000 Time to make your money.

01:39:20.000 Wesley, let me tell you something, Wesley.

01:39:22.000 There's a lot of motherfuckers out there doing that karate, doing all kinds of martial arts, but they don't know what you know.

01:39:27.000 You got something special inside you, bro, and this is your time to shine.

01:39:30.000 Heart of a lion.

01:39:32.000 He's probably crunk from Blade and doing all these stunts.

01:39:34.000 He's like, fuck yeah, I'll do it.

01:39:36.000 Well, if you talk to Patton Oswalt, Patton Oswalt did Blade with him, and apparently there was just bags of cocaine involved in the making of that.

01:39:45.000 Patton Oswalt has a whole bit he does about it.

01:39:47.000 Wow.

01:39:47.000 About being on the set with Wesley, how fucked up he was.

01:39:51.000 He went through some dark periods.

01:39:53.000 He had three lines in that movie.

01:39:54.000 He had three lines and he just killed vampires.

01:39:56.000 No, they pulled the lines from him, hired a double to do all the scenes.

01:40:01.000 There was another guy.

01:40:03.000 So he did nothing.

01:40:05.000 I don't know what happened, but half that movie, like Patton Oswalt has a whole bit about how they brought in the way cooler black guy to pretend to be played, but that guy didn't get to talk.

01:40:13.000 So Wesley had some struggles with...

01:40:16.000 Yeah, he also had some issues with a bunch of questionable characters that told him not to pay taxes.

01:40:21.000 Let me get this straight, Joe.

01:40:22.000 So, you weren't scared at all about a coked up Wesley Snipes that just got done doing Blade?

01:40:28.000 No.

01:40:29.000 Not at all?

01:40:29.000 No.

01:40:30.000 Coming at you like a spider?

01:40:31.000 No.

01:40:32.000 Nothing?

01:40:33.000 No.

01:40:33.000 Clinch to ground.

01:40:35.000 Clinch, ground.

01:40:36.000 Squeeze, tap, or sleep.

01:40:38.000 But when he's all coked up, just like fidgeting, like freaking out?

01:40:42.000 I'm not worried about that.

01:40:43.000 Yeah, he probably shouldn't be.

01:40:44.000 Probably gas out pretty fast.

01:40:46.000 A guy who has never done jujitsu, who weighs 170 pounds, if I grab you...

01:40:52.000 He's heavier than that.

01:40:53.000 He's not.

01:40:54.000 He's pretty thick.

01:40:55.000 Trust me.

01:40:55.000 No, he's not thick at all.

01:40:56.000 You always do this.

01:40:57.000 You always do this.

01:40:58.000 He's not big at all.

01:40:59.000 He's not thick in the least bit.

01:41:01.000 I've seen him in person.

01:41:02.000 Really?

01:41:02.000 Yeah.

01:41:03.000 You'd say he's 170. He's heavier than that.

01:41:04.000 Please, he's heavier than that.

01:41:05.000 No, I don't think so, B. I get this, the gable grip around the waist, and then I squeeze.

01:41:24.000 I was planning on failing every drug test, by the way.

01:41:33.000 So is he.

01:41:34.000 So is he.

01:41:35.000 I mean, if they tested me for...

01:41:36.000 It'd been like Wanderlei and Chael.

01:41:37.000 You guys have been great.

01:41:38.000 Yeah.

01:41:38.000 I do all my training high, so I was trying to figure out whether I was going to fight high.

01:41:41.000 You always train high?

01:41:42.000 Jiu-Jitsu, yeah.

01:41:43.000 Yeah.

01:41:44.000 Why?

01:41:45.000 I don't always.

01:41:46.000 Why?

01:41:46.000 I like it.

01:41:47.000 I like doing Jiu-Jitsu high.

01:41:50.000 Like the smoke they're here for.

01:41:51.000 And then roll.

01:41:52.000 You know what I really like?

01:41:53.000 I like eating it.

01:41:54.000 I like eating it and then rolling.

01:41:55.000 Why?

01:41:55.000 I like eating it.

01:41:56.000 I think it makes me more sensitive, makes me more aware of what's going on, makes me more focused, like completely zone in.

01:42:01.000 A lot of guys do jujitsu high.

01:42:03.000 A lot of guys.

01:42:04.000 Yeah, I'm aware.

01:42:06.000 Yeah.

01:42:06.000 It's just, I've never, right?

01:42:08.000 I've never done it.

01:42:08.000 You should do it.

01:42:08.000 Bro, I'm telling you, if you did it, you might not.

01:42:11.000 Never, if you have some time off and you're going to do jujitsu, you do.

01:42:15.000 And so you know you're not going to get tested.

01:42:17.000 Ahem.

01:42:18.000 You're not really going to smoke pot.

01:42:19.000 I mean, this is all just joking around, right?

01:42:21.000 Yeah, joking around on the podcast.

01:42:22.000 Just try it once.

01:42:23.000 I'm telling you.

01:42:23.000 You'd love it.

01:42:24.000 I mean, I don't know if you'd love it, but I would assume you'd love it.

01:42:27.000 Yeah.

01:42:28.000 Eddie Bravo does it every goddamn time.

01:42:30.000 BJ Penn.

01:42:31.000 Eddie was a little high last night.

01:42:34.000 Hey, can we talk about it real quick?

01:42:35.000 Everyone's talking about their shitty dad stories, which I had nothing to contribute to.

01:42:39.000 Homeboy's one story was awful.

01:42:41.000 He had a great dad.

01:42:42.000 He had a great dad.

01:42:43.000 He kept trying to bring his story into it.

01:42:45.000 Oh, that dude?

01:42:46.000 Yeah.

01:42:46.000 Horrible story.

01:42:47.000 I kept looking for it.

01:42:48.000 I was like, how often do you talk to your dad?

01:42:49.000 And he goes, every day.

01:42:50.000 But then I was like, oh, well, your dad's very much in your life.

01:42:53.000 He goes, no, but my dad's all successful when he calls me.

01:42:56.000 He tries to give me tips and shit.

01:42:57.000 That guy's a nice guy, so let's not talk too much shit about him.

01:42:58.000 We're not giving names.

01:43:00.000 It was a little...

01:43:01.000 Horrible story.

01:43:03.000 Sometimes dudes get around guys like you guys that tell great stories, and they try to throw their own story in it, and they don't realize their story sucks.

01:43:11.000 You know, you're dealing with Eddie Bravo, who's a great storyteller.

01:43:13.000 My buddy Justin, who's a great storyteller.

01:43:15.000 Justin's story was depressing as fuck.

01:43:16.000 My buddy Justin.

01:43:17.000 It got dark.

01:43:18.000 It got dark.

01:43:19.000 You know, my story's not as bad as his.

01:43:21.000 Your story's pretty dark as well.

01:43:22.000 It's bad.

01:43:23.000 It's bad.

01:43:23.000 I didn't say it.

01:43:24.000 You know me, I'll talk your freaking air off.

01:43:28.000 I didn't say a word last night.

01:43:29.000 I had nothing.

01:43:30.000 I can't contribute.

01:43:31.000 I can't contribute to the story.

01:43:33.000 So I'm not good.

01:43:34.000 Nothing's worse when someone doesn't know what they're talking about, especially with experiences like that.

01:43:39.000 My dad loved the shit out of me, straight up.

01:43:41.000 So when you guys talk about these shitty childhoods, I can't really jump in.

01:43:45.000 There's nothing worse than when a guy, oh, I hear that, bro.

01:43:48.000 I hear that.

01:43:49.000 One time I went to McDonald's, my dad didn't buy me a fucking Happy Meal.

01:43:52.000 I feel you, bro.

01:43:53.000 All those presents at Christmas, I was like, another one?

01:43:56.000 I know, I was like, this is too much.

01:43:58.000 I'll be here forever.

01:43:58.000 Yeah, depressing childhood stories are rough.

01:44:01.000 They're hard to deal with.

01:44:02.000 But yeah, that one dude's story was not so good.

01:44:03.000 I mean, Justin's was horrible.

01:44:06.000 Mine wasn't the best.

01:44:07.000 Eddie's is horrible.

01:44:08.000 I was trying not to laugh.

01:44:09.000 I can't hide when I think something's funny.

01:44:11.000 I was trying to not laugh at his story.

01:44:13.000 And he kept bringing it back in.

01:44:14.000 And even his friend goes, Hey, bro, maybe pipe down.

01:44:19.000 He goes, No, man, fuck that.

01:44:20.000 It sucks when your dad's disappointed in you.

01:44:23.000 I went sober up, for sure.

01:44:25.000 Sober up.

01:44:26.000 Spilled half a drink on my jeans last night.

01:44:29.000 But a nice guy.

01:44:30.000 As the day went on, he got even more drunk.

01:44:32.000 Really?

01:44:32.000 He was trying to explain something to me later on that night.

01:44:35.000 It was tough.

01:44:37.000 It was like he was waking up from anesthesia.

01:44:41.000 Trying to explain something to me.

01:44:43.000 I was like, it's okay, man.

01:44:44.000 I got it.

01:44:45.000 I get it.

01:44:46.000 I get it.

01:44:46.000 That happens in Vegas.

01:44:47.000 About 3.30 in the morning, you'll get cornered by some people.

01:44:49.000 I don't hang out with anyone.

01:44:51.000 No, I can't get down with it.

01:44:53.000 So did you know him from before or no?

01:44:55.000 No, he's my buddy Justin's pal.

01:44:57.000 He's a good dude.

01:44:58.000 He just got hammered.

01:44:59.000 And you know what happens, man?

01:45:00.000 Like I said, when people are around guys like you guys that tell great stories and they want to contribute and tell a great story too, and they're just not used to being around...

01:45:08.000 You know, you're around a fucking world-class stand-up comedian like Brian Cowan who tells great fucking stories.

01:45:13.000 And you want to throw yours into the mix.

01:45:16.000 Good luck.

01:45:17.000 Bring your A-game though, bro.

01:45:18.000 He doesn't have an A-game.

01:45:19.000 He had that false sense of reality because he's drunk.

01:45:22.000 There's nothing like being around Joey Diaz when he starts telling stories.

01:45:24.000 He's amazing.

01:45:25.000 I've never met him, man.

01:45:26.000 I hear him on your podcast.

01:45:28.000 He's the funniest guy that's ever lived.

01:45:30.000 I've met a lot of funny people.

01:45:31.000 Why can't you bring him in one of the fight companions?

01:45:33.000 Anytime.

01:45:33.000 I'll do it.

01:45:34.000 Next time.

01:45:34.000 Next one we do.

01:45:35.000 He'll do it?

01:45:36.000 If he's in town, I'll have him do it.

01:45:37.000 Dude, he wants to do the fighter and the kid.

01:45:38.000 I talked to him two days ago about it.

01:45:40.000 He's the funniest guy that's ever lived.

01:45:41.000 Are you serious?

01:45:42.000 Yeah, I've met a lot of really funny guys.

01:45:43.000 And he's from Sopranos?

01:45:44.000 Is that right?

01:45:45.000 No, no, no, no.

01:45:45.000 He looks like the guy from Sopranos.

01:45:46.000 He looks identical to him.

01:45:48.000 He looks like Big Pussy.

01:45:48.000 Yes!

01:45:49.000 He's not at all?

01:45:49.000 Not really.

01:45:50.000 If you saw Big Pussy, you saw him, he looks different.

01:45:52.000 He's working a lot as an actor, though, man.

01:45:53.000 Yeah, he's worked a lot.

01:45:54.000 But you know what?

01:45:54.000 He's making more money now with his stand-up than ever, and it's all because of the internet.

01:45:58.000 It's all because of podcasts, because he can be himself.

01:46:00.000 He just never runs out of stories, and he's got a fucking personality that goes on for days.

01:46:05.000 This is BJ Penn and Frankie Edgar, and I'm going to piss, so please be kind when I leave the room.

01:46:10.000 Don't worry.

01:46:10.000 We're about to see two fucking legends go down.

01:46:13.000 Real quick.

01:46:14.000 Now look at Daniel Cormier.

01:46:15.000 Please look at him.

01:46:17.000 Come on.

01:46:18.000 Couldn't look more normal.

01:46:19.000 Couldn't look more like a 9-to-5-er?

01:46:21.000 He looks like a 9-to-5-er.

01:46:22.000 No, he doesn't.

01:46:23.000 He certainly does.

01:46:25.000 You know how much I love him.

01:46:26.000 I pick him every time.

01:46:28.000 I just find it amazing.

01:46:30.000 He's having knee surgery and then waiting for his title shot.

01:46:33.000 Smart move, I think.

01:46:34.000 Yeah.

01:46:35.000 This was a mistake, Brandon.

01:46:37.000 His hands weren't up, right?

01:46:38.000 What was going on with that?

01:46:41.000 Hold.

01:46:42.000 Hold.

01:46:43.000 What?

01:46:43.000 I don't give a fuck.

01:46:45.000 We just already saw that, man.

01:46:47.000 What happened?

01:46:47.000 He got punched in the face very, very hard.

01:46:50.000 He got disoriented, and then more punches happened.

01:46:52.000 Well, okay, thanks a lot, doctor.

01:46:54.000 No help.

01:46:54.000 I mean, what do you want me to tell you, man?

01:46:56.000 He got punched directly in the face.

01:46:58.000 Yeah, but his hand should have been up, right?

01:46:59.000 That's tough, man.

01:47:00.000 Shit happens.

01:47:03.000 I love Ron Stan.

01:47:05.000 Everyone does.

01:47:06.000 Nothing I love about the guy.

01:47:12.000 Square-jawed Marine.

01:47:13.000 Could he look any more American?

01:47:15.000 He should be...

01:47:17.000 To be a U.S. citizen, you should have to know who Brian Stanton is.

01:47:21.000 He's Jack Armstrong.

01:47:22.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:47:22.000 He could run for president and fucking win, by the way.

01:47:25.000 I would vote for him.

01:47:26.000 I think Chael Sonnen could, too, if before...

01:47:27.000 No, no, before...

01:47:28.000 No, hold on.

01:47:29.000 Hold on.

01:47:29.000 If we went in a time machine to six months ago...

01:47:33.000 No, he's still a felon.

01:47:35.000 Let's say before he's a felon.

01:47:37.000 I love Chael.

01:47:39.000 I'd vote for him too.

01:47:40.000 Chael could talk his way into it.

01:47:42.000 Chael's better talking than Brian.

01:47:44.000 More creative.

01:47:45.000 Brian's more clear because he was in freaking doing tours and killing bitches.

01:47:50.000 So he's a lot more clear.

01:47:51.000 You get real clear when you start killing bitches.

01:47:53.000 There's no stuttering when you're ordering Stan.

01:47:55.000 Stan is very direct.

01:47:57.000 I guess they're going over the final.

01:47:59.000 They're going to show Eddie Gore and Diego Lima again.

01:48:01.000 Why are they showing it?

01:48:02.000 And they just showed us the other one.

01:48:03.000 They're killing a little time.

01:48:04.000 I just saw it.

01:48:05.000 Why are you re-showing this?

01:48:06.000 Because the last fight was a one-round knockout, too.

01:48:08.000 There's a lot of knockouts on this guy, right?

01:48:10.000 Boom!

01:48:11.000 Gordon cracks.

01:48:12.000 Slacker.

01:48:14.000 And tell you what, man, Diego Lima is tough as shit.

01:48:17.000 You know, the kind of punishment.

01:48:18.000 Limit to what your head can take.

01:48:19.000 They're both going to be fun.

01:48:20.000 Angry this fight looks.

01:48:21.000 This is where I should have stopped right there, I think.

01:48:23.000 Gordon looks so angry.

01:48:24.000 This is like a...

01:48:25.000 If you wanted to talk about how evil cage fighting is, look at this.

01:48:29.000 Rawr!

01:48:32.000 It's the end of the world.

01:48:33.000 It's the end of the world.

01:48:35.000 That scared me.

01:48:37.000 When they start looking back in the future about when society crumbled, this is like the first steps.

01:48:43.000 The return of the gladiator.

01:48:45.000 The coliseum.

01:48:46.000 Tell me this isn't similar to the coliseum.

01:48:48.000 Tell me that reality shows aren't similar.

01:48:51.000 That's exactly what it is.

01:48:51.000 You had a good answer when somebody said, why is it so popular?

01:48:54.000 Why is MMA so popular?

01:48:55.000 And you said it's the closest you can come to watching two men kill each other with their bare hands.

01:49:00.000 Yeah, because guess what?

01:49:01.000 If Eve Levine or Herb Dean's not in there, and no one stops it, someone's dying.

01:49:05.000 Yeah, the guy's out cold, and you're stomping his head until it's jello.

01:49:08.000 Yes.

01:49:09.000 It's not good.

01:49:09.000 Unfortunately.

01:49:10.000 The only reason why the ref is there is to make sure that doesn't happen.

01:49:13.000 Yeah.

01:49:14.000 Damn, a lot of empty seats back there, huh?

01:49:16.000 Super empty.

01:49:17.000 Well, guess what?

01:49:18.000 It's Sunday in Vegas after 4th of July.

01:49:20.000 I know.

01:49:20.000 I'm not even a partier.

01:49:22.000 I'm fucking exhausted.

01:49:24.000 I was thinking that this morning, because I left this morning...

01:49:26.000 And when I flew out, man, the airport was mobbed.

01:49:32.000 Vegas looked like it was full of zombies.

01:49:34.000 The airport looked like zombies.

01:49:36.000 You got about an hour of sleep.

01:49:39.000 The kid takes vitamins.

01:49:40.000 Not bad.

01:49:40.000 You should see my piss.

01:49:41.000 It's bright orange.

01:49:43.000 Really?

01:49:43.000 It's like a glowing vitamin orange.

01:49:44.000 You know who doesn't do well?

01:49:45.000 It's impressive.

01:49:46.000 Bro, if I don't get eight hours of sleep...

01:49:48.000 Yeah.

01:49:48.000 Well, you train really hard, man.

01:49:50.000 I don't do well.

01:49:51.000 This is a good weekend, man.

01:49:52.000 I got two real solid workouts in.

01:49:54.000 I worked out with Della Grotte, and yesterday I lifted.

01:49:57.000 I worked out with the same time as Rhonda's girl, Marina.

01:50:02.000 Marina, yeah.

01:50:03.000 Very cool chick.

01:50:04.000 Yeah, very cool.

01:50:05.000 She was there.

01:50:05.000 Chick works out hard.

01:50:07.000 She's a beast, man.

01:50:08.000 She's a little beast.

01:50:09.000 She's like Rhonda's best friend and protege.

01:50:10.000 She's a beast.

01:50:11.000 Yeah, you could tell.

01:50:12.000 She's a 145-er, though.

01:50:13.000 Yeah, she was putting her strength and conditioning workout.

01:50:15.000 She had a phone in front of her with all of her routines on it.

01:50:20.000 She put in some fucking work.

01:50:21.000 I was impressed.

01:50:23.000 So here it is.

01:50:24.000 We're going to watch Frankie Edgar and BJ Penn.

01:50:25.000 Third time, I believe.

01:50:27.000 Does anyone cheer against BJ Penn?

01:50:29.000 I mean, who?

01:50:30.000 BJ Penn!

01:50:31.000 Frankie Edgar's wife, Frankie Edgar's mom, Frankie Edgar's dad.

01:50:35.000 I love Frankie Edgar, man.

01:50:36.000 I do, too.

01:50:36.000 I love Frankie Edgar.

01:50:37.000 BJ went down to Jose Aldo's camp, I guess, right?

01:50:40.000 Well, he did a little bit of training at Novo Uñao, but he did most of the training in Hawaii for this.

01:50:44.000 Always, always.

01:50:46.000 Yeah, I mean, Ian McCall, who went with BJ down to Hilo to train with him, did some training.

01:50:54.000 He said, BJ's in incredible shape.

01:50:56.000 He said, and Ian has fantastic endurance, and he said BJ was outworking him.

01:51:03.000 He said he was blown away by how good a shape BJ's in.

01:51:05.000 Now, I've heard this a million fucking times before.

01:51:07.000 Every fight I hear this.

01:51:08.000 Literally every fight, someone tells me this.

01:51:10.000 Every time.

01:51:10.000 But what blew me away about this is that, first of all, they were going to fight at 145. Like, that's going to be a disaster.

01:51:15.000 BJ's zombie was making 155. Right.

01:51:18.000 But whatever he did, I don't know what he adjusted.

01:51:21.000 I would love to talk to him about it, how he changed his body.

01:51:24.000 But he got down where he was walking around like under 160. Dang.

01:51:28.000 Like on a regular basis.

01:51:29.000 And then the fight week, he was 149 fight week.

01:51:32.000 Wow.

01:51:33.000 You know, without any cutting.

01:51:34.000 Wow.

01:51:34.000 Yeah, and then he easily made 145. Frankie weighed 145.5.

01:51:39.000 BJ weighed 145 on the nugget.

01:51:40.000 Looked good at the weigh-ins.

01:51:41.000 Jeez.

01:51:42.000 You know, I mean, looked skinny.

01:51:43.000 So he had trouble making 55, BJ. I didn't know that.

01:51:47.000 Oh, yeah.

01:51:47.000 He's not tall, you know?

01:51:49.000 Well, that's why he fought 170 all the time.

01:51:51.000 He fought Nick Diaz, and he fought Rory McDonald.

01:51:53.000 Two big 170s.

01:51:54.000 That Rory McDonald fight was hard to watch, and Rory's my boy.

01:51:57.000 That was awful.

01:51:57.000 Yeah.

01:51:57.000 Such a reach advantage.

01:51:59.000 BJ Penn, as far as...

01:52:01.000 He's a superstar.

01:52:03.000 He is, as big as they get, superstar.

01:52:05.000 The most down-to-earth, nicest guy I've ever met in the UFC, hands down.

01:52:09.000 Yeah, BJ Penn.

01:52:11.000 He's a salt of the earth.

01:52:12.000 And he's a real warrior.

01:52:13.000 But you know what, man?

01:52:14.000 He's a guy that has an incredible amount of pride.

01:52:17.000 And, you know, he...

01:52:19.000 He's got a lot of ego.

01:52:21.000 He's got a lot of pride.

01:52:22.000 He wants to get in there and be the BJ that he used to be.

01:52:26.000 Well, that's why he's who he is.

01:52:28.000 You don't get to that point without having an ego.

01:52:29.000 Listen, everyone who fights in the UFC has an ego.

01:52:31.000 But if he could use that and motivate himself to get back in the kind of shape that he was back when he fought Diego Sanchez, back when he fought Sean Shirk, he was in insane condition back then.

01:52:42.000 How old is he now?

01:52:44.000 He's probably 35, 36. How old do you think?

01:52:46.000 I'm going to say he's 42. He's Dwayne.

01:52:49.000 He's the rock stage.

01:52:50.000 Brian thinks BJ Penn's 21 years old.

01:52:52.000 That's right.

01:52:52.000 He's the rock stage.

01:52:53.000 I don't think he is.

01:52:54.000 He's 36, right?

01:52:55.000 I'd say mid-30s for sure.

01:52:57.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:53:00.000 A final long time.

01:53:01.000 Yeah, it's been a while.

01:53:03.000 The UFC, by the way, the UFC website is dog shit.

01:53:07.000 It's horrible.

01:53:08.000 You can't go to the fighter until their fight is on.

01:53:12.000 Like, if you try to go to the fighter when their fight's not on, it takes you to the previous fight.

01:53:19.000 Like, you go to the card, and when you go to the card, it shows, like, the fighters, and you try to...

01:53:26.000 Read the bio on them and it doesn't even allow you to click on it.

01:53:32.000 It actually takes you back to the other fight.

01:53:36.000 It's weird.

01:53:39.000 It's weird.

01:53:39.000 Okay, let's see if I can search Fighters BJ Penn.

01:53:42.000 I'm saying BJ's probably 35. You could just do BJ Age on Google.

01:53:44.000 I'm saying 34. I'm going to say 36. Okay, let's try here.

01:53:49.000 Let's see.

01:53:49.000 BJ Penn.

01:53:51.000 Do, do, do, do, do.

01:53:53.000 35. Wow.

01:53:55.000 35. Hilo, Hawaii.

01:53:58.000 35. So for BJ's, you know...

01:54:00.000 Last chance for romance.

01:54:02.000 At the lighter weights especially, heavier guys can last longer.

01:54:06.000 They oftentimes, especially heavyweights, mature a little bit later and are still effective.

01:54:12.000 I'm still grown.

01:54:13.000 I take my Flintstone vitamins.

01:54:15.000 Word.

01:54:15.000 Word up.

01:54:17.000 Listen, I'm rooting for BJ. I want him to win.

01:54:19.000 I don't think he stands a chance.

01:54:20.000 Really?

01:54:21.000 I don't.

01:54:21.000 It hurts to say because I love BJ. Do you know what the odds are?

01:54:24.000 No, I don't.

01:54:25.000 They opened up at 10 to 1. Frankie?

01:54:28.000 Mm-hmm.

01:54:29.000 Frankie is the favorite.

01:54:30.000 Makes sense.

01:54:31.000 Yeah.

01:54:31.000 Makes sense.

01:54:32.000 Frankie's outstanding.

01:54:33.000 I mean, he's just a fucking, he's a stud.

01:54:34.000 He's a fucking stud.

01:54:36.000 He's an outstanding athlete.

01:54:37.000 He's got some of the best footwork in the UFC. I'd say the heart.

01:54:40.000 Yeah, I'd say if not the best.

01:54:42.000 No one's got a bigger heart.

01:54:43.000 No one's got a better chin.

01:54:44.000 No one's more of a fucking gamer than Frankie.

01:54:48.000 He's his game as fuck.

01:54:49.000 Take those Gray Maynard fights.

01:54:51.000 Jesus Christ.

01:54:52.000 Bro, his coach, Mark Henry, I worked with him before I fought Cro Cop.

01:54:55.000 I flew out to New Jersey with his camp.

01:54:57.000 I was with Ricola Almeida, his striking coach, Mark Henry.

01:55:00.000 And it's insane.

01:55:03.000 I've never seen anything like it.

01:55:05.000 If you watch Mark Henry in the corner, he's drenched in sweat by the end of the fight.

01:55:09.000 It's literally like he has a control stick, and he's doing this with Frankie.

01:55:14.000 He's just shouting out, Frankie, they have a whole system in code.

01:55:18.000 He'll go, 1-3-4-5, 1-3-4-5, and It changes every fight so he can't pick up on it.

01:55:23.000 It's like his coach is Peyton Manning and is running the offense.

01:55:27.000 And he's so nervous before the fight because he feels like it's banking on him because he calls every combination you see.

01:55:34.000 Wow.

01:55:34.000 There's no one else like him in the UFC, coaching-wise.

01:55:37.000 Wow.

01:55:38.000 Yeah, man.

01:55:38.000 Mark Henry.

01:55:39.000 That's interesting.

01:55:39.000 Beast.

01:55:40.000 Did you get a lot out of working with him?

01:55:42.000 A ton.

01:55:43.000 Really?

01:55:44.000 A ton.

01:55:44.000 Did you think about moving to New Jersey?

01:55:45.000 I did.

01:55:46.000 Really?

01:55:46.000 What held you back?

01:55:47.000 The chicks?

01:55:48.000 Accents?

01:55:50.000 Dudes with gold chains?

01:55:53.000 No, Jersey Shore came out and I was like, fuck that.

01:55:56.000 Jersey Shore came out on MTV and I'm good.

01:55:58.000 I'm all set.

01:55:59.000 If they all look like Snooki, I'm all set.

01:56:02.000 That's where I was born, man.

01:56:03.000 So I came to LA. That's where I was born.

01:56:04.000 Yeah, Mark Henry's a beast, man.

01:56:05.000 Yeah.

01:56:06.000 I was working as a bass man.

01:56:07.000 I worked with him so much.

01:56:08.000 Yeah.

01:56:09.000 The calluses on my feet were ripping off because I'd work in his basement nonstop at night.

01:56:13.000 Really?

01:56:14.000 The guy's work ethic is insane.

01:56:16.000 I don't think there's another coach in the world who works harder than Mark Henry.

01:56:19.000 Wow.

01:56:20.000 So you really get enough credit?

01:56:22.000 No kidding.

01:56:23.000 You don't get enough credit.

01:56:23.000 I was getting it from you.

01:56:24.000 Did you think about moving down there?

01:56:26.000 You really did?

01:56:26.000 I did.

01:56:27.000 I did.

01:56:28.000 But there wasn't big guys.

01:56:29.000 There was no big guys around.

01:56:30.000 Anyone.

01:56:31.000 That's a big thing, isn't it?

01:56:33.000 A bummer.

01:56:33.000 A super bummer.

01:56:34.000 Do you base where you train by the size of the guys?

01:56:39.000 I base on it on the coaches.

01:56:43.000 First I find the coaches and then I always think that at least if there's big guys in the area, I'll at least get to them somehow.

01:56:50.000 Honestly, I thought me and Verdun would work together more.

01:56:53.000 When I first came out to give a trial run, there was word that me and Verdun were going to fight each other.

01:56:59.000 Me and him started talking shit to each other on Twitter.

01:57:01.000 It got out of hand.

01:57:02.000 He tweeted me like, I'll fight you on the moon.

01:57:05.000 I put, okay, or we can just do in Las Vegas September 21st, not the moon.

01:57:09.000 Save your money.

01:57:12.000 Rockets are expensive.

01:57:13.000 Yeah, that's what I said.

01:57:14.000 I said rocket fuel is super expensive.

01:57:16.000 It's just doing Las Vegas, bro.

01:57:19.000 Definitely won that battle.

01:57:20.000 Kind of an awkward thing to step up.

01:57:22.000 Yeah, so we were going to fight, but then he was like, nah, man.

01:57:25.000 We might have to fight, so he doesn't want to work together.

01:57:27.000 Great guy, though.

01:57:29.000 How about now?

01:57:31.000 Well, they still might have to fight, dude.

01:57:33.000 They're both in the heavyweights in the UFC. Are you paying attention?

01:57:35.000 Yeah, I am, but you can still train with him.

01:57:37.000 I would work with him, yeah.

01:57:38.000 Look how skinny BJ is.

01:57:39.000 It's kind of weird looking at him all skinny like this.

01:57:40.000 Looks like Brian Kelman.

01:57:42.000 I love his walkout.

01:57:43.000 His walkout's my favorite in the UFC. He gets so emotional, sometimes he cries when he walks out, huh?

01:57:50.000 Look at that.

01:57:51.000 He's getting me fired up, man.

01:57:53.000 Looking at him, just looking at his face gets me fired up.

01:57:55.000 I love it.

01:57:56.000 I'm a huge BJ Penn fan.

01:57:57.000 Me too, man.

01:57:58.000 God damn.

01:58:00.000 And Frankie Edgar.

01:58:01.000 They could not live in more contrasting places.

01:58:04.000 One of them lives in paradise, the other one lives in fucking Jersey.

01:58:08.000 Jersey.

01:58:09.000 Jersey.

01:58:13.000 That's Mark Henry right there.

01:58:14.000 Yeah, so I like those gloves, too.

01:58:17.000 Big, thick, padded gloves, but they still have...

01:58:19.000 I'm telling you, I don't know if you'll be able to pick it up on the broadcast, but you'll literally hear Mark shouting the entire rounds.

01:58:25.000 Four, five, six, seven, nine, nine, nine.

01:58:28.000 Just those are all combinations.

01:58:29.000 And they change it every camp.

01:58:31.000 God, that's incredible.

01:58:31.000 Because they don't want people picking up on it.

01:58:32.000 That's incredible.

01:58:33.000 It shows you how smart Frank is, too.

01:58:34.000 Well, it shows you how much work they put in.

01:58:36.000 There's some serious work.

01:58:37.000 Oh, Mark Henry, just off me, just when we worked together, I'm talking this notebook right here.

01:58:43.000 Completely full notes.

01:58:44.000 Wow.

01:58:45.000 It was overwhelming.

01:58:46.000 I was like, damn, I need to go study this for about a year.

01:58:48.000 So what does it feel like when you leave that and you train with someone else and you don't have all that?

01:58:53.000 You must feel like, what the fuck?

01:58:54.000 I'm not maximizing my potential.

01:58:56.000 Nope, I got a guy now here in LA. Does the same shit?

01:58:58.000 Does the same shit.

01:58:59.000 Really?

01:59:00.000 Does the same shit, but he's just boxing.

01:59:02.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:59:03.000 Yeah.

01:59:04.000 We've talked about this.

01:59:05.000 Yeah, we need to talk about that when you shut this off.

01:59:07.000 Yeah, we'll talk about this on air.

01:59:08.000 I got some new information for you.

01:59:10.000 All right.

01:59:11.000 We'll talk some more.

01:59:12.000 But here it is.

01:59:13.000 It's going down right now, man.

01:59:15.000 Oh, I'm so excited about this fight.

01:59:16.000 It's going to be great.

01:59:17.000 I almost thought about staying in Vegas just for this fight.

01:59:19.000 Wow, that place filled up.

01:59:21.000 That shows you, man.

01:59:22.000 I'll tell you right now, Fedor could be fighting in the prime, could be fighting a prime freaking whoever, and I wouldn't have stayed in Vegas.

01:59:28.000 I would have, well, man, I don't know.

01:59:31.000 I would have, Fedor, I would have stayed for.

01:59:32.000 Not me.

01:59:33.000 Fedor could have been fighting Cro Cop in the prime, and I would have went home to LA right now.

01:59:36.000 No, not me.

01:59:37.000 I would have told my wife, listen, bitch.

01:59:39.000 Mike Dolce in the background.

01:59:42.000 I'll see you in a day.

01:59:43.000 It's not me.

01:59:44.000 I gotta watch Fedor and Crow Cup.

01:59:45.000 It's not me.

01:59:46.000 I would have paid double for my ticket today to get home.

01:59:49.000 That's funny.

01:59:50.000 But out of all the fighters that I wish I had seen live, he's number one, Fedor.

01:59:54.000 Ooh, I saw him live when he beat up Mark Coleman in Vegas.

01:59:57.000 Never saw him live.

01:59:57.000 Real ass-whooping.

01:59:58.000 That was a real ass-whooping.

02:00:00.000 That was hard to watch.

02:00:01.000 Yeah, horrible.

02:00:01.000 Does it sound like they're booing him?

02:00:03.000 No, no, no, no.

02:00:04.000 No way.

02:00:05.000 No one's booing B.J. Ben, bro.

02:00:09.000 Fucking A, man.

02:00:10.000 This is wild.

02:00:11.000 Look at him.

02:00:12.000 He looks thinner, man.

02:00:13.000 He looks like he looks...

02:00:14.000 Oh, he's way thinner.

02:00:15.000 I mean, they're fighting at 145. You know, BJ fought heavyweight.

02:00:19.000 He fought Lyoto Machida.

02:00:21.000 In Hawaii?

02:00:22.000 It was over 205. It was called The Rock, correct?

02:00:24.000 No, no, no.

02:00:25.000 The promotion called The Rock?

02:00:26.000 They didn't fight in heavyweight.

02:00:27.000 No, he fought...

02:00:28.000 I mean, he did fight in Hawaii, Rumble on the Rock.

02:00:30.000 Rumble on the Rock, that's what I was referring to.

02:00:32.000 But that's not when he fought Lyoto.

02:00:33.000 He fought Lyoto in Japan.

02:00:35.000 Mm-hmm.

02:00:36.000 He fought Gomi in Hawaii when Gomi was a legend, and he beat the piss out of Gomi.

02:00:44.000 That's when Gomi was at his best.

02:00:46.000 Look at this.

02:00:47.000 Frickin' love BJ Penn.

02:00:49.000 Goddamn.

02:00:50.000 Look at this.

02:00:52.000 Amazing.

02:00:52.000 TJ and Joey.

02:00:54.000 I wish I could hear it.

02:00:55.000 That's a living legend right there, folks.

02:00:57.000 Straight up.

02:00:57.000 He is a living legend.

02:00:59.000 Oh, you like Bruce Lee?

02:01:00.000 Yeah, we got BJ Penn fighting right now.

02:01:02.000 Yeah.

02:01:02.000 He's actually competing.

02:01:03.000 I'm a big fan of Bruce Lee, too, but I think all this Bruce Lee talk's getting out of hand.

02:01:08.000 I agree 100%.

02:01:08.000 He wouldn't last too long in the octagon.

02:01:10.000 People are saying he's the greatest this, the greatest.

02:01:12.000 He's a very good actor.

02:01:14.000 He had some really good ideas about martial arts.

02:01:15.000 Did some great stuff.

02:01:16.000 Did some great stuff with Jeet Kondo, but however, he never officially competed.

02:01:21.000 Exactly.

02:01:21.000 There's nothing on I think I said this on my podcast, The Fighting Kid, or on yours, I forget.

02:01:27.000 People bombard me with tweets like, how dare you?

02:01:29.000 No, man, I'm stating the facts.

02:01:31.000 I'm sure he's great.

02:01:32.000 He's great.

02:01:33.000 One of the best ever.

02:01:34.000 Dude, I wear Bruce Lee t-shirts all the time.

02:01:36.000 Me too.

02:01:36.000 I love Bruce Lee.

02:01:37.000 However, I can't talk about him and BJ Penn in the same sentence.

02:01:40.000 Exactly.

02:01:41.000 Keep it real.

02:01:42.000 One's a warrior.

02:01:43.000 One's an actor, one's a warrior.

02:01:44.000 Yeah, and again, he was hugely important.

02:01:48.000 Bruce Lee is hugely important.

02:01:49.000 I'm a huge Bruce Lee fan.

02:01:50.000 He was the original mixed martial artist.

02:01:53.000 He was the first guy.

02:01:54.000 When I came along in the 1980s, when I was doing martial arts, when I first started, they still had this issue where people were loyal to their style.

02:02:03.000 They still got a lot of that, man.

02:02:05.000 And Bruce Lee was the very first guy, and it was even before I started training.

02:02:09.000 The very first guy who came along and said, that's all nonsense.

02:02:12.000 Like, you should use what's useful.

02:02:14.000 And he built his own style that was based on incorporating all these different martial arts.

02:02:18.000 He also turned martial arts into a business.

02:02:21.000 And Enter the Dragon, he actually does an arm bar, too.

02:02:24.000 Oh, yeah, he does.

02:02:25.000 Well, he worked out a lot with Gene LaBelle.

02:02:27.000 Oh, he did?

02:02:28.000 Gene LaBelle was on the podcast.

02:02:29.000 He told me some great stories.

02:02:30.000 Wow.

02:02:31.000 Hey, that's classic.

02:02:31.000 Yeah.

02:02:32.000 He was a tiny guy, right?

02:02:33.000 He was like 5'4".

02:02:34.000 135. 135, yeah.

02:02:35.000 About 5'7", I think.

02:02:36.000 135. Yeah, 5'7", yeah.

02:02:37.000 They still really don't know how he died, right?

02:02:39.000 They say he mixed, like, aspirin with painkillers.

02:02:41.000 He had a head injury, apparently.

02:02:44.000 Like, some sort of aneurysm or something like that.

02:02:45.000 Obviously, you guys don't know about the Chinese mafia.

02:02:47.000 Let's find out.

02:02:48.000 Yeah, I know.

02:02:49.000 That's the other one, right?

02:02:49.000 No, no.

02:02:50.000 I literally, I Googled it because I was getting so much heat about Bruce Lee.

02:02:53.000 And they said he was at, like, some director's house.

02:02:56.000 He had a headache.

02:02:57.000 He took aspirin.

02:02:58.000 Then we went home, he took a painkiller, and it killed him.

02:03:02.000 Look at Frankie Edgar.

02:03:03.000 He always runs in.

02:03:03.000 And you'll see Mark Henry running right behind him.

02:03:05.000 You see him trying to keep up?

02:03:09.000 There he is.

02:03:10.000 Look.

02:03:11.000 There's your Nintendo controller.

02:03:13.000 Here he comes.

02:03:14.000 Nintendo 64 in the house.

02:03:18.000 Damn.

02:03:18.000 Frankie Edgar.

02:03:19.000 Holy shit.

02:03:20.000 Here we go.

02:03:24.000 Here we go.

02:03:27.000 Remember those Frankie Ben Henderson fights?

02:03:29.000 Those are so close.

02:03:30.000 I had Frankie beating Ben in Denver.

02:03:33.000 Yeah, I thought he won.

02:03:34.000 Me too.

02:03:34.000 I thought it was very close, but I thought Frankie won.

02:03:40.000 Man, I can't believe this fight's about to go down.

02:03:42.000 This is so exciting.

02:03:43.000 I can't believe they're fighting again.

02:03:45.000 Alright, death.

02:03:47.000 Lee collapsed in Golden Harvest Studios in Hong Kong while doing dubbing work for Enter the Dragon.

02:03:52.000 Suffering from seizures and headaches, he was immediately rushed to Hong Kong Baptist Hospitals where doctors treated him with chicken bones and voodoo.

02:04:00.000 Well, there's your problem.

02:04:01.000 Diagnosed a cerebral edema.

02:04:03.000 I was like, what?

02:04:04.000 Hong Kong Baptist Hospital.

02:04:05.000 So he had an aneurysm or something, right?

02:04:06.000 Listen to that.

02:04:06.000 Hong Kong Baptist Hospital.

02:04:08.000 Okay.

02:04:09.000 He had a cerebral edema.

02:04:11.000 They were able to reduce the swelling.

02:04:14.000 Wow, so he had bleeding in the brain, man.

02:04:18.000 Wow, that's fucked up.

02:04:20.000 So that was in May.

02:04:22.000 The same symptoms that occurred in his first collapse were repeated on the day of his death.

02:04:29.000 1973, Lee was in Hong Kong to have dinner with James Bond star George Lazenby, whom he intended to make a film.

02:04:36.000 According to Lee's wife Linda, he met with producer Raymond Chow at 2 p.m.

02:04:39.000 to discuss the making of the film.

02:04:40.000 They worked until 4 p.m.

02:04:42.000 and drove together at home to the home of Lee's colleague, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

02:04:47.000 Three went over the script and then Chow left to attend a dinner meeting.

02:04:50.000 Lee complained of a headache.

02:04:52.000 Team gave him an analgesic painkiller which contained aspirin and a muscle relaxant.

02:04:59.000 Around 7.30 he went to lie down for a nap.

02:05:01.000 He did not turn up for dinner.

02:05:03.000 She came to the apartment but could not wake him up.

02:05:05.000 A doctor was summoned, spent 10 minutes attempting to revive him before sending him to an ambulance.

02:05:10.000 He was dead at the time he reached the hospital.

02:05:12.000 There's no visible external injury.

02:05:14.000 However, according to autopsy reports, his brain had swollen considerably.

02:05:18.000 So it was probably from fucking brain injuries from getting a beating.

02:05:22.000 Like concussion style?

02:05:23.000 Could be, man.

02:05:25.000 Dang.

02:05:26.000 Oh, okay.

02:05:27.000 The doctor stated that he had died from an allergic reaction to the muscle relaxant.

02:05:33.000 Which he described as a common ingredient in painkillers.

02:05:37.000 When doctors announced Lee's death, officially it was ruled death by misadventure.

02:05:43.000 Oof.

02:05:44.000 Misadventure.

02:05:44.000 So in other words, misadventure is a recreational use of drugs or something?

02:05:48.000 A technical term?

02:05:50.000 Misadventure?

02:05:50.000 Well, that's...

02:05:51.000 Trying to have an adventure and that's...

02:05:52.000 Look at BJ. Look at BJ. You can see his abs.

02:05:54.000 Never seen that before on BJ. Well, when he fought Diego.

02:05:57.000 He's had him before, yeah.

02:05:58.000 Yeah, but he's obviously in good shape, man.

02:06:00.000 This is so interesting.

02:06:02.000 Definitely going for BJ. Never root against BJ. I'm so fascinated right now.

02:06:06.000 Me too, and I love his shorts.

02:06:08.000 Yeah.

02:06:09.000 Love them.

02:06:13.000 To a prodigy.

02:06:16.000 I think he was one of the fastest ever to get his black belt, correct?

02:06:18.000 Four years?

02:06:18.000 Three.

02:06:19.000 Three years.

02:06:19.000 Not just black belt, won the world championships.

02:06:23.000 What?

02:06:23.000 Three years?

02:06:23.000 Won the Mundials as a black belt three years after he began training.

02:06:28.000 That's insane.

02:06:29.000 Yeah.

02:06:29.000 That's insane.

02:06:30.000 He's amazing.

02:06:31.000 Well, he had incredible, always had incredible flexibility.

02:06:35.000 You know, that's one of the benefits that he's always had, dexterity and flexibility in his legs.

02:06:41.000 So instead of just being able to hold you with his arms, he holds dudes with his legs as well.

02:06:45.000 He's like a chimp.

02:06:45.000 Yeah, amazing leg.

02:06:47.000 Guys who roll with him, they always come back and they go, his ground game is so freaky because of his legs.

02:06:53.000 He's on such another level.

02:06:55.000 Have you ever rolled with him or no?

02:06:56.000 No, no, never have.

02:06:58.000 Here we go.

02:06:59.000 Here we go.

02:07:00.000 This is it.

02:07:00.000 Oh, my goodness.

02:07:01.000 Oh, boy.

02:07:02.000 Oh, my.

02:07:02.000 Well, Eddie Bravo's got the freakiest legs.

02:07:05.000 You want to talk about leg posterity?

02:07:06.000 Oh, my goodness.

02:07:07.000 He can do the craziest shit with his legs, put them in places without things that other people have to do where you have to grab your foot and put them in.

02:07:16.000 Eddie can just do it like a hand.

02:07:18.000 He can do it like a hand.

02:07:19.000 His flexibility is ridiculous.

02:07:22.000 That's cool.

02:07:22.000 In certain positions, but it's weird.

02:07:24.000 He doesn't have flexible hamstrings.

02:07:25.000 Here we go, kids.

02:07:26.000 Here we go.

02:07:27.000 BJ's opening up with strikes.

02:07:28.000 Look at this.

02:07:29.000 You know how Freddie Roach has worked with all these MMA guys?

02:07:31.000 Look at how tall BJ's standing.

02:07:32.000 Look how tall he's standing.

02:07:33.000 It's weird.

02:07:34.000 I don't think he's worried about getting taken down.

02:07:35.000 Look at that.

02:07:36.000 Look how tall he's standing.

02:07:37.000 Never seen him do that.

02:07:38.000 It's weird.

02:07:39.000 Weird.

02:07:40.000 Freddie Roach said BJ has the best boxing he's ever seen for an MMA guy.

02:07:43.000 Yeah.

02:07:44.000 Look at this, man.

02:07:45.000 Ooh, nice left hook there by BJ. Dude, BJ looks really tall.

02:07:50.000 This is really strange.

02:07:52.000 Standing right there in the pocket.

02:07:54.000 I mean, does he want to get taken down?

02:07:56.000 Dude, he looks different than I've ever seen him before.

02:07:59.000 So strange.

02:08:02.000 Wow.

02:08:02.000 He's looking good.

02:08:04.000 Nice leg kick by Frankie.

02:08:05.000 When you're that tall, the leg kick's there all night long.

02:08:08.000 So are the takedowns, right?

02:08:09.000 Takedowns especially, but the leg kicks are just there.

02:08:12.000 He's super tall on his tippy toes.

02:08:14.000 Standing up straight.

02:08:16.000 Literally on his tippy toes.

02:08:17.000 Yeah.

02:08:18.000 That's so weird.

02:08:20.000 It is weird.

02:08:21.000 He's like he's changed his style.

02:08:24.000 Frankie's looking for a takedown.

02:08:25.000 He gets it.

02:08:26.000 Maybe he want to go to the ground.

02:08:28.000 Maybe.

02:08:29.000 Feet on the hips.

02:08:34.000 BJ pushes him off.

02:08:39.000 Leg kicks by Frankie.

02:08:41.000 Wow, this is crazy to watch.

02:08:44.000 Super interesting.

02:08:45.000 I feel like BJ wants him down there.

02:08:47.000 I'm excited that it's five rounds.

02:08:48.000 Me too.

02:08:52.000 BJ wants to submit him.

02:08:53.000 Frankie went right back to it.

02:08:55.000 You think so?

02:08:56.000 I do.

02:08:57.000 Why else would you be on tippy toes inviting a takedown?

02:09:00.000 I don't know if that's it.

02:09:01.000 I really don't know if that's it.

02:09:03.000 And he's not kicking to get up either, is he?

02:09:05.000 No.

02:09:06.000 Did you notice that when he was throwing punches, when he was hitting the pads in the preview, he was standing straight up too?

02:09:12.000 It was weird.

02:09:13.000 Yeah, I just thought it was...

02:09:14.000 He was just fucking around, right?

02:09:15.000 Yeah.

02:09:16.000 Yeah, I thought so too, but it's almost like he's changed his style a little bit.

02:09:20.000 I wonder if he brought in someone new to work with.

02:09:22.000 He's got a philosophy behind it.

02:09:23.000 You'd have to, right?

02:09:24.000 You can't just switch it up for no reason.

02:09:26.000 I don't know.

02:09:26.000 Maybe he had a vision.

02:09:29.000 Maybe he said, come on down to the ground, son.

02:09:31.000 I was in the ocean.

02:09:32.000 I had a vision.

02:09:36.000 I took a rock and went under the water.

02:09:39.000 Now you sound Brazilian.

02:09:42.000 No, I'm not.

02:09:43.000 After a rock?

02:09:45.000 So he's not trying to get up.

02:09:47.000 No.

02:09:47.000 No, he's not.

02:09:48.000 But Frankie's not trying to let him up either.

02:09:50.000 It's weird.

02:09:51.000 Frankie tried to turn that corner back in the guard.

02:09:53.000 Trying to pass this butterfly guard.

02:09:55.000 DJ has a ridiculous guard.

02:09:58.000 Ridiculous guard to pass.

02:10:00.000 But, you know, doesn't get a lot of triangles.

02:10:02.000 He doesn't.

02:10:02.000 Doesn't leave a lot of shit off of his back.

02:10:05.000 He's in the middle of the octagon.

02:10:06.000 There's a lot of room to move.

02:10:08.000 Well, he sweeps guys and takes their back.

02:10:10.000 Yeah, he always gets their back.

02:10:11.000 Yeah.

02:10:12.000 I mean, he's known for that.

02:10:14.000 And locking guys up with one arm trapped, he's a master at that.

02:10:18.000 One arm trapped while he's got your back.

02:10:20.000 Good luck.

02:10:20.000 Frankie passes his butterfly.

02:10:21.000 I'm going to be impressed.

02:10:22.000 Yeah.

02:10:23.000 Look at that.

02:10:23.000 See, he could get up right there.

02:10:25.000 He could literally get up right there.

02:10:26.000 It seems like he doesn't want to.

02:10:27.000 That was badass.

02:10:28.000 That's Ensign Inouye style.

02:10:30.000 Old school.

02:10:31.000 You ever see that fight Ensign and Randy Couture?

02:10:34.000 Ensign threw some gangster kicks off of his back from the butt scoot.

02:10:39.000 And then he armbarred Randy.

02:10:42.000 Look at this.

02:10:43.000 Frankie trying to get back in there.

02:10:45.000 Back in there.

02:10:46.000 Again, the same.

02:10:47.000 Look at trying to pass.

02:10:48.000 Look at him trying to pass.

02:10:49.000 Ain't half that.

02:10:49.000 Is Ensen anyway a Samoan?

02:10:51.000 No, he's Japanese.

02:10:53.000 He's a big Japanese guy.

02:10:54.000 Is he a black guy?

02:10:55.000 Is that a black guy?

02:10:56.000 Is he Ethiopian?

02:10:57.000 He's about 6'7".

02:10:59.000 Anyway, could be.

02:11:00.000 He was so thick.

02:11:01.000 He was just so thick.

02:11:02.000 He has to be something else besides Japanese.

02:11:04.000 No, he doesn't.

02:11:04.000 There's a lot of thick Japanese guys.

02:11:06.000 Look at Fujita.

02:11:07.000 Super thick.

02:11:09.000 Look at Ishi.

02:11:10.000 Yeah.

02:11:10.000 Satoshi Ishi's a fucking real thick dude.

02:11:13.000 Judo champion.

02:11:14.000 Oh, by the way, don't call him Ishi.

02:11:16.000 He likes to be referred to as Satoshi.

02:11:18.000 Oh, really?

02:11:18.000 Learned that after two years of training with him.

02:11:20.000 What is Satoshi?

02:11:21.000 Well, is Ishi's first name?

02:11:22.000 Is that what it is?

02:11:23.000 And Satoshi's his last name?

02:11:24.000 No, Satoshi's his first name.

02:11:26.000 Ishi, I don't know.

02:11:27.000 I don't know how it works.

02:11:29.000 Someone's trying to explain.

02:11:30.000 BJ, back up.

02:11:31.000 Let's see this.

02:11:33.000 Upright again.

02:11:35.000 Straight up in the air.

02:11:37.000 We're a good kick to the body by Frankie.

02:11:40.000 Nice switch kick.

02:11:41.000 Why, Frankie, are going to throw more leg kicks?

02:11:44.000 There we go.

02:11:45.000 Checked one.

02:11:49.000 Great footwork.

02:11:50.000 Look at Frankie, man.

02:11:52.000 I wish we could hear Mark Henry right now.

02:11:54.000 So strange.

02:11:55.000 It is so weird.

02:11:57.000 So strange seeing this style from him.

02:11:59.000 Light on his toes, very narrow stance.

02:12:02.000 Very narrow stance.

02:12:03.000 The most narrow I've ever seen in the UFC, besides the kid who just got knocked out, who's 6'5".

02:12:07.000 No, he's more narrow than that guy.

02:12:10.000 I don't know.

02:12:11.000 That guy was straight upright.

02:12:12.000 Yeah, but BJ's got his feet practically touching each other.

02:12:15.000 BJ's feet are touching each other and he's tippy toes.

02:12:18.000 Yeah.

02:12:18.000 Ooh, nice left hook by Frankie.

02:12:20.000 Good combination.

02:12:21.000 Guess what's gonna happen tomorrow?

02:12:22.000 Kids gonna be in the gym on their tippy toes.

02:12:24.000 Guarantee it.

02:12:25.000 Copycat league.

02:12:26.000 Man, really, really interested to see how this plays out.

02:12:31.000 It's weird, man.

02:12:31.000 I gave that first round to Frankie.

02:12:33.000 Frankie took him down.

02:12:34.000 100%.

02:12:34.000 Frankie definitely landed more shots.

02:12:37.000 B.J. was able to stifle him in the guard, but Frankie kicked the shit out of his legs after he disengaged.

02:12:42.000 Frankie landed more, kicked, takedown, controlled him on the ground, although he was trying to pass.

02:12:46.000 It didn't happen.

02:12:47.000 See, how if you're a judge, when it goes to the ground, you can't pass and you do no damage.

02:12:54.000 B.J. gets no recognition for that.

02:12:57.000 Zero as a judge.

02:12:58.000 Yeah, totally true.

02:13:01.000 Yeah, it doesn't mean anything.

02:13:02.000 It means nothing in a fight.

02:13:04.000 However, I'm just saying...

02:13:06.000 Right, I know what you're saying.

02:13:07.000 Well, you know what it really is, man?

02:13:08.000 The system should be 30 points.

02:13:11.000 It should be a 10-point system.

02:13:12.000 It should be a 30-point system.

02:13:14.000 And they should take into account striking, grappling, submissions.

02:13:19.000 You know, all those three things should be taken into account.

02:13:23.000 And that, you know, maybe 10 points each side.

02:13:26.000 Like, maybe one guy gets 10 points for...

02:13:30.000 Grappling.

02:13:30.000 The other guy gets 9. The other guy gets 10 points of striking.

02:13:33.000 You know what I mean?

02:13:33.000 Yeah.

02:13:34.000 At what point are they going to make the change?

02:13:37.000 I don't know.

02:13:37.000 I don't think in my lifetime.

02:13:39.000 Oh, I think so.

02:13:40.000 You do?

02:13:40.000 Yeah, I think so.

02:13:41.000 They're actually looking at some alternative scoring methods now.

02:13:45.000 They've discussed it.

02:13:46.000 I mean, the UFC is very aware of it.

02:13:47.000 I would like to see them do something about the gloves.

02:13:49.000 Can you see Mark Henry in the back yelling?

02:13:51.000 No, I can't see him.

02:13:52.000 Look at him.

02:13:52.000 See him?

02:13:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:13:53.000 He's calling out.

02:13:53.000 Non-stop.

02:13:54.000 He wants leg kicks.

02:13:57.000 Interesting fight, man.

02:13:59.000 Interesting so far.

02:14:00.000 I want to see if B.J. gets in his groove.

02:14:02.000 He's in good shape, I'll tell you that, man.

02:14:04.000 In this second round, still looking good.

02:14:05.000 Good overhand right with Frankie.

02:14:07.000 I like how Frankie does that.

02:14:08.000 Goes through the single, makes it look like he's going to struggle for it, disengages and cracks you.

02:14:11.000 That's Mark Henry's thing, and they did it the first time B.J. fought.

02:14:14.000 What would they do?

02:14:15.000 He's so good at defending that single leg.

02:14:16.000 They're just attempting it so B.J. reacts so they can land a left hook.

02:14:20.000 Oh, he tagged him to the right.

02:14:24.000 Interesting.

02:14:24.000 Very interesting.

02:14:27.000 If you're BJ, though, what are you telling him?

02:14:29.000 Your corner's just like...

02:14:30.000 I don't know.

02:14:31.000 BJ's just walking him down.

02:14:32.000 It's interesting.

02:14:33.000 He's putting the pressure on, but...

02:14:35.000 If I say interesting one more time, I'm going to hit myself.

02:14:37.000 I'm fucking mad at myself.

02:14:39.000 This fight is interesting.

02:14:40.000 It is.

02:14:41.000 It's the best way to put it.

02:14:42.000 BJ's upright and just kind of walking forward, kind of...

02:14:46.000 I don't know.

02:14:46.000 Eating leg kicks and...

02:14:48.000 It's very odd.

02:14:49.000 Well, he's checked a lot of them, too, though, man.

02:14:50.000 He's doing a great job of checking them.

02:14:51.000 Judges don't care about that.

02:14:53.000 No, no.

02:14:54.000 There's that right hand again by Frankie.

02:14:55.000 But BJ's walking him down, man.

02:14:57.000 Walking him down.

02:14:58.000 Walking him down.

02:14:58.000 You ready for my prediction?

02:15:00.000 Mm-hmm.

02:15:01.000 Fourth round TKO Frankie Edgar.

02:15:03.000 Another takedown by Frankie.

02:15:04.000 From a right hand.

02:15:05.000 Really?

02:15:06.000 What makes you say that?

02:15:07.000 I just see some stuff.

02:15:08.000 That's what I think.

02:15:09.000 Wow.

02:15:09.000 What do I know?

02:15:10.000 That's a big prediction.

02:15:11.000 It is.

02:15:12.000 Bold bastard.

02:15:13.000 Bold.

02:15:13.000 You are bold though.

02:15:15.000 Brendan Schaub, if you're anything, you're bold.

02:15:17.000 Like that A1 sauce, but bold.

02:15:19.000 Bold, dog.

02:15:20.000 Spicy.

02:15:21.000 Spicy.

02:15:23.000 Again, feet on the hips.

02:15:25.000 See, I see this and I'm like, damn, that's so dope.

02:15:27.000 BJ can control in there and he can't pass.

02:15:29.000 Everyone else is like, damn, BJ's getting his ass whooped.

02:15:32.000 Isn't that weird?

02:15:33.000 He doesn't do anything offensive from his guard.

02:15:36.000 It's very rare.

02:15:36.000 I don't think he has a single armbar victory from the guard in his career.

02:15:40.000 What he does is control guys, stifles them, sweeps them, and then takes their back and chokes them.

02:15:46.000 Of all his submissions, what are they?

02:15:49.000 They're almost all rear naked chokes.

02:15:51.000 He gets your back.

02:15:52.000 Yeah.

02:15:54.000 Frankie landed a nice right hand there.

02:15:57.000 Isn't that weird?

02:15:58.000 BJ's such a BJJ... Just ridiculous skills.

02:16:03.000 And he really only rear-naked, guys.

02:16:04.000 Like, you're not seeing arm bars, leg attacks.

02:16:06.000 He knows them 100%.

02:16:07.000 He knows all of them.

02:16:09.000 But you have your niche that you do, and you get comfortable with doing it.

02:16:14.000 Isn't it weird?

02:16:14.000 This is also weird for him to be sitting on his back like this.

02:16:17.000 I don't know.

02:16:17.000 Some guys just do that.

02:16:19.000 Like, Marcelo Garcia, known for...

02:16:21.000 Rear nakeds and guillotines.

02:16:23.000 Very rarely do you see Marcelo attempt an armbar.

02:16:25.000 Although he did leg lock Rico Rodriguez in the absolute of Abu Dhabi.

02:16:30.000 Which is crazy.

02:16:30.000 Crazy.

02:16:31.000 Well, Rico was terrified of him.

02:16:32.000 Remember when he had Rico's back and Rico threw himself back on top of Marcelo?

02:16:37.000 Yeah.

02:16:38.000 250 pounds of Rico.

02:16:39.000 Yeah.

02:16:40.000 Slammed him.

02:16:40.000 Yeah, which is kind of fucked.

02:16:43.000 Yeah, I think it's weird, man.

02:16:44.000 It's so strange.

02:16:46.000 You get good.

02:16:48.000 You probably have two moves in your back pocket that are your go-tos.

02:16:52.000 You know the rest.

02:16:53.000 You know how to defend them, but they're not your go-tos.

02:16:56.000 Yeah, there are certain guys that do that over and over.

02:16:58.000 Look at Ronda and her arm bars.

02:17:00.000 Ronda's arm bars are fucking ridiculous.

02:17:02.000 Like when she fought Misha Tate when they did the Ultimate Fighter together and she said, better get used to wiping your ass with the other hand.

02:17:07.000 She's telling her, I'm going to arm bar you.

02:17:10.000 And what does she do?

02:17:11.000 Arm bars her.

02:17:12.000 I mean, incredible.

02:17:13.000 Mm-hmm.

02:17:14.000 It's crazy, man.

02:17:16.000 Yeah.

02:17:16.000 When someone has it, like, you remember Paul Sass?

02:17:19.000 Oh, yeah.

02:17:20.000 Really good triangles.

02:17:21.000 Yeah, great triangles.

02:17:22.000 He had something like nine triangle victories in a row.

02:17:25.000 Look at Chuck Liddell.

02:17:26.000 Arms crossed.

02:17:27.000 Just nod into it.

02:17:28.000 Just like, what the hell?

02:17:30.000 He's probably nodding out.

02:17:31.000 If we see Chuck nod out in the background, that would be fucked.

02:17:34.000 Yeah.

02:17:38.000 Boy, this is not the most exciting fight.

02:17:40.000 Yeah, BJ's got to be thinking he's two rounds in the hole here, though, no?

02:17:43.000 I mean, Frankie on top of him, two rounds in the hole.

02:17:46.000 Look at this.

02:17:46.000 He's in half guard.

02:17:47.000 Oh, he's going to sweep him.

02:17:48.000 Oh, he got blasted right there.

02:17:50.000 Blasted.

02:17:50.000 Took some serious shots there.

02:17:51.000 Now he's seeing some ground and pound.

02:17:54.000 Dexterity of his legs is ridiculous.

02:17:56.000 So few people can move around like that off their back with their legs.

02:18:00.000 But the bottom line is he's taking a beating, man.

02:18:03.000 Frankie's on top of him, elbowing the shit out of him here.

02:18:06.000 Oh, damn.

02:18:07.000 Frankie's relentless.

02:18:09.000 Frankie's so tough.

02:18:10.000 I hate seeing this, man.

02:18:11.000 Look at this.

02:18:11.000 I hate seeing BJ Penn get beat up.

02:18:14.000 He is getting beat up, too, man.

02:18:16.000 Two rounds.

02:18:17.000 BJ's got to come on strong.

02:18:18.000 Look at this.

02:18:19.000 Oh, my goodness.

02:18:20.000 BJ is getting rocked here with these elbows.

02:18:23.000 He's staying calm and everything.

02:18:27.000 See, like here, you can, I mean, at his level, you can go for legs here, and you can go for ankles.

02:18:33.000 He doesn't do it, though.

02:18:33.000 That's your options there.

02:18:34.000 He doesn't do it.

02:18:35.000 But he knows him, you know him.

02:18:37.000 I'd like to see him in his corner.

02:18:38.000 Look, he's tired now.

02:18:39.000 I'd love to hear the corner.

02:18:40.000 Not this one, the other one.

02:18:45.000 Man, interesting.

02:18:49.000 Ricardo Almeida's in his corner, too?

02:18:51.000 Great guy.

02:18:51.000 Give us a little volume there, Jamie.

02:18:55.000 Please give us BJ's.

02:18:56.000 BJ's all busted up a little.

02:18:58.000 His cheek, he's taking big deep breaths now.

02:19:00.000 Two rounds in the hole for Frankie.

02:19:03.000 I remember Ricardo when he was 17 at Hensos.

02:19:06.000 Walking around just beating everybody up at 17. Really?

02:19:09.000 Oh yeah.

02:19:11.000 Let me hear this corner.

02:19:14.000 Damn, his face looks like, fuck it.

02:19:18.000 I gotta be honest.

02:19:19.000 That's a face of, you know what, fuck this.

02:19:25.000 Just win this round.

02:19:26.000 That's not advice.

02:19:28.000 Just win this round?

02:19:29.000 He wasn't gonna.

02:19:30.000 What should he say, though, Joe?

02:19:31.000 What can you say?

02:19:32.000 Hey, bro, you are completely getting your ass kicked.

02:19:35.000 Let's try and revamp everything.

02:19:37.000 You can't.

02:19:37.000 He just took a big, deep breath, too.

02:19:39.000 Well, you know, what he's gotta do is he's gotta keep the fight standing, or he's gotta take Frankie down and get on top of him.

02:19:44.000 I mean, if BJ gets on top, his top game is nasty.

02:19:47.000 But he just can't hold him in his guard and put his feet on the hips like that.

02:19:51.000 Right hand's gonna drop.

02:19:52.000 Right hand is gonna drop BJ. And he's gonna get TKO'd.

02:19:56.000 Oof.

02:19:58.000 So weird.

02:19:59.000 This isn't as cool as I thought.

02:20:03.000 It's changing.

02:20:04.000 Now I'm super depressed.

02:20:05.000 Yeah, that was a beating in that second round.

02:20:06.000 I was all crunk about it.

02:20:07.000 Oh, another right hand by Frankie.

02:20:10.000 Frankie's just more active, more accurate, more unpredictable.

02:20:15.000 And more successful so far.

02:20:17.000 Look at that.

02:20:17.000 Nice kick on the transition.

02:20:19.000 Looks like he's pulling away.

02:20:20.000 Boom.

02:20:20.000 Lands that kick.

02:20:21.000 He does things like he'll shuffle in for the punches, and then the second time he shuffles out, he throws a hard kick.

02:20:29.000 Or he looks like he's going to do what he just did, and he goes for a takedown.

02:20:32.000 He mixes shit up so well.

02:20:33.000 He's great at mixing it up.

02:20:36.000 And you think that's all his coach, huh?

02:20:38.000 A big part of it, huh?

02:20:39.000 Huge part of it.

02:20:40.000 Very interesting, man.

02:20:42.000 Because when they hit mitts, they do it.

02:20:43.000 I'd love to watch those guys train.

02:20:45.000 See.

02:20:47.000 I loved his fight with Oliveira.

02:20:49.000 Charles Oliveira?

02:20:49.000 That was a great fight.

02:20:52.000 Oliveira, very underrated guy.

02:20:54.000 Dude, what happened to Gray Maynard?

02:20:56.000 He got knocked out by a couple different guys.

02:21:00.000 Nate Diaz knocked him out.

02:21:03.000 But you don't hear from him, right?

02:21:05.000 You don't really hear much lately.

02:21:07.000 What is his name that was going to fight for the title?

02:21:12.000 I'm just watching this.

02:21:13.000 I'm trying to pay attention while I'm watching this.

02:21:15.000 Sorry, man.

02:21:16.000 TJ Grant knocked him out, too.

02:21:19.000 With an elbow.

02:21:20.000 That's right.

02:21:20.000 Standing elbow.

02:21:22.000 It's a few KOs and that was after Frankie had knocked him out.

02:21:25.000 That right hand is finding the home.

02:21:28.000 Oh man, beautiful combinations by Frankie.

02:21:30.000 The movement was just so good.

02:21:32.000 He's not there for a recoil.

02:21:33.000 Oh man, he just ragdolled BJ to the ground there.

02:21:38.000 Crazy.

02:21:39.000 BJ's got to do something, man.

02:21:41.000 He can't just lay here with him in his guard like he's been doing.

02:21:48.000 Frankie trying to pass again.

02:21:50.000 Like, BJ's so comfortable in this position, but it's a terrible position for him.

02:21:54.000 It's almost bad that he's that comfortable here because you're just losing the fight, getting beat up.

02:21:58.000 But it's so weird because, you know, he doesn't have an offensive guard.

02:22:02.000 He doesn't have a guard where he's attacks off his back, tries to lock up triangles.

02:22:07.000 He's just impossible to pass.

02:22:08.000 Well, Frankie's half past here.

02:22:10.000 Yeah, he's about to if he can clear that other foot.

02:22:12.000 Well, look.

02:22:12.000 Nope.

02:22:13.000 Awesome dexterity.

02:22:14.000 It is impressive.

02:22:15.000 Great recovery.

02:22:16.000 It really is.

02:22:16.000 I love seeing it.

02:22:17.000 It is impressive.

02:22:18.000 Everyone else listening to this is like, this is the most bullshit fight ever.

02:22:22.000 Frankie's smashing up.

02:22:23.000 More elbows.

02:22:24.000 More elbows.

02:22:24.000 Boom, boom, boom.

02:22:26.000 How is BJ? Oh, BJ's cut bad now.

02:22:29.000 How is B.J. going to go?

02:22:30.000 Oh, he's lighting him up.

02:22:31.000 He's lighting him up.

02:22:32.000 That's nasty.

02:22:33.000 Look at it.

02:22:34.000 It's going into his eye now.

02:22:35.000 I wouldn't be surprised if he was corny throwing the towel.

02:22:38.000 You're dealing with a legend like this.

02:22:40.000 Look at that blood.

02:22:41.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:22:42.000 That's the bloodiest we've ever seen B.J. Yes.

02:22:45.000 He doesn't really cut a lot.

02:22:47.000 Well, he's cutting a lot now.

02:22:48.000 Frankie keeps targeting that same spot with elbows.

02:22:51.000 And BJ's got two more minutes of this to deal with.

02:22:54.000 Oh, another one on the same spot!

02:22:55.000 Oh my goodness, BJ's getting fucked up.

02:22:58.000 Dude, Herb Dean might stop this fight.

02:23:00.000 He's gonna look at the cut.

02:23:02.000 Wow.

02:23:03.000 Aw, damn.

02:23:05.000 Man.

02:23:06.000 BJ just doesn't have an answer.

02:23:07.000 He does not have an answer.

02:23:10.000 And Frankie's been saying, oh my god, he's pounded on him.

02:23:15.000 He's going to crucifix him.

02:23:16.000 You're not crucifixing BJ and finishing like that.

02:23:19.000 You're just not going to happen.

02:23:20.000 Look at this.

02:23:21.000 He's getting hit in the head.

02:23:22.000 Bang, bang, bang.

02:23:23.000 He can't stop because of that.

02:23:25.000 He's pounding him, man.

02:23:26.000 What if Frankie submits him?

02:23:28.000 How crazy would that be?

02:23:29.000 What if he gets the mount?

02:23:30.000 Yeah.

02:23:32.000 Frankie's just dominating.

02:23:33.000 Oh my god, he's crushing him.

02:23:34.000 He keeps going back to this butterfly guard and just doing nothing.

02:23:37.000 Oh, elbow.

02:23:39.000 Oh, another one.

02:23:40.000 He's getting worked.

02:23:41.000 This is crazy to watch.

02:23:44.000 This is not cool.

02:23:46.000 Frankie's a monster, man.

02:23:48.000 He is a monster.

02:23:49.000 He's a monster, man.

02:23:50.000 He really is.

02:23:50.000 Look at him.

02:23:51.000 Just fucking ferocious with these punches and elbows.

02:23:54.000 Herb's gonna stop the fight, man.

02:23:56.000 That's it.

02:23:56.000 Holy shit.

02:23:57.000 Yeah, there's no point.

02:23:58.000 That's it.

02:23:58.000 BJ Penn.

02:23:59.000 Wow.

02:24:00.000 Frankie Edgar puts BJ Penn away.

02:24:03.000 Wow.

02:24:04.000 Look at that.

02:24:05.000 That is weird.

02:24:06.000 That is crazy.

02:24:09.000 Wow, that was a route.

02:24:10.000 That sucked.

02:24:11.000 It was a three route.

02:24:12.000 Well, it was great for Frankie.

02:24:14.000 Amazing performance.

02:24:15.000 That's why he's a 10 to 1 favorite?

02:24:17.000 I would guess so.

02:24:18.000 Is he a 10 to 1 favorite?

02:24:19.000 Yeah, well, the opening line, I mean, I don't know what it was when the actual fight went down, but man, that's hard to watch.

02:24:24.000 Hard to watch.

02:24:26.000 Hard to watch.

02:24:28.000 It's crazy, man.

02:24:29.000 They all go down, man.

02:24:31.000 They all go down.

02:24:31.000 Everyone does.

02:24:32.000 Hate to tell you, your favorite fighter, that's going to happen in one day.

02:24:35.000 Unless he gets out before that happens.

02:24:37.000 Yeah, man.

02:24:38.000 I hope that we've seen the last of certain guys like GSP. I don't want to see him go down like this.

02:24:44.000 Me neither.

02:24:44.000 I don't see Anderson go down like this.

02:24:46.000 No.

02:24:47.000 Yeah.

02:24:48.000 Do you think he's going to go down like this again?

02:24:50.000 Do you think Anderson's going to wind up fighting again or fighting someone else?

02:24:53.000 Yep.

02:24:53.000 Look at this.

02:24:54.000 Boom.

02:24:55.000 Boom.

02:24:56.000 Because they're going to give him a fight.

02:24:57.000 It'll probably be in his favor.

02:24:58.000 He'll win that one.

02:24:59.000 And then you get some demon who's not going to be down like that, you know?

02:25:03.000 Do you remember when he was coming out for the Weidman fight, the second fight, and he paused during his walk-in?

02:25:08.000 That was weird.

02:25:08.000 He got down on his knees.

02:25:10.000 He squatted and just sat there, almost like he was having a hard time breathing.

02:25:13.000 Yeah.

02:25:14.000 Trying to keep it together.

02:25:15.000 That was weird, right?

02:25:15.000 Recollect himself.

02:25:16.000 Yeah.

02:25:17.000 Well, it's just the fucking nerves, man.

02:25:19.000 Knowing that you're about to go in there against this dude who's made out of concrete.

02:25:22.000 Tell me about it.

02:25:24.000 Especially at heavyweight.

02:25:25.000 I feel like...

02:25:25.000 I'm not saying...

02:25:27.000 But it is.

02:25:28.000 I am saying it's different.

02:25:29.000 Heavyweight's different.

02:25:30.000 Because they can crack you with one shot.

02:25:32.000 Because you're going in and you're just like, all right, well, this guy's 265 pounds.

02:25:36.000 Literally, if I make an error, it's over.

02:25:37.000 And I'm going to get really, really hurt.

02:25:39.000 So at heavyweight, it's just different, man.

02:25:41.000 The nerves are different you're dealing with.

02:25:43.000 That's scary.

02:25:44.000 What's the guy that hit you the hardest, you think?

02:25:47.000 Hardest in my life?

02:25:49.000 Everyone said, you know, like Roy Nelson, who I got knocked out by.

02:25:51.000 He hit me behind the ear, so it wasn't that hard.

02:25:54.000 Same with Noguera.

02:25:55.000 I would say...

02:25:58.000 Rothwell?

02:25:58.000 No.

02:25:59.000 No?

02:25:59.000 That's the lightest I've ever been hitting one out.

02:26:01.000 And the reason was I was sparring with Shane Carman the week before and got wobbled with a left hook.

02:26:06.000 Almost knocked out, basically.

02:26:07.000 And then fought.

02:26:08.000 That's why that shot put me down.

02:26:10.000 Wow.

02:26:11.000 Because if you look, Rothwell really doesn't hit me that hard.

02:26:13.000 I'm flailing, trying to put him away, and he just clips me in the back of the air and I fall down.

02:26:18.000 I was rocked before that fight.

02:26:20.000 Wow.

02:26:21.000 That happens all the time, right?

02:26:22.000 All the time.

02:26:23.000 And a heavyweight's a different bird.

02:26:24.000 I would say who rocked me where I kept going would be probably LeVar Johnson.

02:26:29.000 He hit me with an uppercut, and it literally almost ripped my lips off.

02:26:32.000 Wow.

02:26:33.000 I was just like, good lord.

02:26:34.000 He's a banger, huh?

02:26:36.000 Yeah, a banger.

02:26:36.000 That guy can hit.

02:26:38.000 He was put on his earth to knock bitches out.

02:26:40.000 He's a strong motherfucker.

02:26:41.000 Might have been a boring fight, but it put a wrestling clinic on his big ass, and he cuts it positive for steroids.

02:26:47.000 Yeah, he did, right?

02:26:49.000 Well, that's it.

02:26:50.000 Wrestling 101. The end of the BJ Penn career, man.

02:26:53.000 I think we've seen the end, right?

02:26:56.000 Well, now I'm super depressed.

02:26:58.000 I am?

02:26:59.000 No.

02:26:59.000 It wasn't fun to watch, man.

02:27:00.000 It wasn't cool to watch.

02:27:01.000 I was hoping it would be a competitive fight.

02:27:06.000 You just don't want to see that, man.

02:27:07.000 That shit sucks.

02:27:09.000 I'm all out of Bulletproof Coffee.

02:27:11.000 BJ Penn got his ass whooped.

02:27:13.000 There's another little thing to that.

02:27:14.000 Yeah, I know.

02:27:15.000 I gotta sleep tonight.

02:27:17.000 I went to Zuman.

02:27:18.000 He did some weird stuff.

02:27:19.000 I need sleep.

02:27:20.000 I need sleep, man.

02:27:22.000 Man, it's tough to watch.

02:27:25.000 Another fighter companion.

02:27:26.000 When I was a kid, I watched Donald Curry, who's a big fan of mine, fight Mike McCallum.

02:27:31.000 You remember Mike McCallum, the body snatcher?

02:27:33.000 No.

02:27:34.000 You don't remember him?

02:27:34.000 No.

02:27:35.000 Middleweight champion, bad motherfucker.

02:27:37.000 And he, Mike McCallum, hit Donald Curry with a left hook to the body and then a left hook and knocked Donald Curry the fuck out.

02:27:45.000 Donald Curry went out flat on his back.

02:27:48.000 And I was so depressed, I just put on my fucking shoes and went running.

02:27:52.000 It was cold out.

02:27:53.000 I was living in Boston.

02:27:54.000 I ran down the street.

02:27:56.000 I just went running.

02:27:58.000 I couldn't take it.

02:27:58.000 I was just so depressed.

02:28:00.000 And then I remember deciding at that moment, I'm never going to get depressed when a fighter loses ever again.

02:28:05.000 I'm never going to invest.

02:28:07.000 You're never going to let it affect you that way.

02:28:08.000 I can't let it affect me like that.

02:28:10.000 I remember deciding that because I was so bummed out.

02:28:13.000 I took it so personally.

02:28:14.000 That happens to a lot of people.

02:28:16.000 It happens to me.

02:28:17.000 Like when I found out or lost to get the main event against Bigfoot, I went and ran probably six miles.

02:28:23.000 I get super stressed out and sad about it because that should have been me.

02:28:27.000 I didn't know what to do, so I just hit the gym running.

02:28:29.000 Let's talk about that because Bigfoot's a weird situation, man, because Bigfoot has a real issue.

02:28:36.000 Like, he's got a tumor on his pituitary gland.

02:28:38.000 He has giantism, gigantism, I guess, which made him...

02:28:43.000 I mean, they had to...

02:28:45.000 At one point in time in his career, he was over 300 pounds.

02:28:47.000 Yeah, he cut to 65. Yeah, he used to cut down to 265. He was fucking enormous.

02:28:52.000 Shredded, too.

02:28:53.000 Shredded.

02:28:54.000 Yeah.

02:28:54.000 When he fought Arlovsky, when he fought Fedor.

02:28:56.000 What?

02:28:57.000 Yeah.

02:28:57.000 Shredded.

02:28:58.000 Huge.

02:28:58.000 He was absolutely gigantic.

02:29:00.000 When he fought Arlovsky.

02:29:02.000 He fought Arlovsky?

02:29:03.000 Oh, yeah.

02:29:03.000 When?

02:29:04.000 Yeah, they fought in Strikeforce.

02:29:06.000 Or it might have been Elite XC. It was Elite XC. How did he do?

02:29:09.000 He won in, I think it was a controversial decision, but it was a good fight.

02:29:13.000 Really?

02:29:14.000 He won.

02:29:15.000 It might have been a decision, but he won for sure.

02:29:19.000 Listen, Bigfoot...

02:29:20.000 Oh, look at that cut.

02:29:21.000 My God.

02:29:22.000 It's pretty bad.

02:29:23.000 Crazy.

02:29:24.000 Bigfoot on those stuff, though, just because he has an issue doesn't make it okay that he takes stuff.

02:29:30.000 No.

02:29:30.000 Because you want to make it fair?

02:29:32.000 Say, all right, Orlowski, you can take whatever he's taking.

02:29:36.000 Right.

02:29:36.000 That would be fair.

02:29:37.000 Well, the only problem with that, of course, is that when you tell a guy they can take hormones, especially if you don't really need them naturally, if your body's healthy, you're going to fuck your whole endocrine system up.

02:29:50.000 Your system's not going to know what's going on.

02:29:52.000 All right.

02:29:53.000 Yes.

02:29:53.000 So it's irresponsible.

02:29:54.000 It's irresponsible.

02:29:55.000 At the same time, you're fighting a guy who is on different supplements to enhance his fighting career than you are, and you can't do anything about it.

02:30:03.000 Right.

02:30:04.000 And he has a past to do this.

02:30:06.000 Oh, and they're fighting in Brazil?

02:30:08.000 Weird.

02:30:10.000 Weird.

02:30:10.000 You're fighting in Brazil.

02:30:12.000 Bigfoot in Brazil.

02:30:13.000 Orlovsky, this is not a gift.

02:30:15.000 This is a punishment.

02:30:16.000 Do you think that when he gets down there that, I mean, is it possible for Bigfoot to fight clean?

02:30:22.000 That's the real question.

02:30:23.000 Nope.

02:30:24.000 Not possible.

02:30:24.000 Nope.

02:30:24.000 Not possible.

02:30:25.000 With his condition and stuff like that, not possible.

02:30:27.000 And he's been on it his entire career, and you want to get him off?

02:30:30.000 You want to rank him in the top five?

02:30:31.000 Good luck.

02:30:32.000 Good luck.

02:30:33.000 So what happens?

02:30:34.000 There's a reason to fight him in Brazil.

02:30:35.000 So you think he's going to juice up?

02:30:36.000 I think so.

02:30:37.000 Wow, interesting.

02:30:38.000 I think so.

02:30:39.000 Listen, and this is what I would have done.

02:30:40.000 If UFC said, hey, why don't you fight Bigfoot in Brazil?

02:30:43.000 I'd say, listen, I'll fight Bigfoot, no problem.

02:30:46.000 I want to fight him in Vegas or California where the drug testing is strict.

02:30:49.000 Where, all right, he doesn't eat this stuff?

02:30:51.000 That's fine.

02:30:51.000 That's fair game.

02:30:52.000 However, I want it regulated.

02:30:53.000 I want random tests to make sure he's not overdoing it.

02:30:55.000 Because that's what guys are doing.

02:30:57.000 Let's be real here, man.

02:30:58.000 Right.

02:30:58.000 Fuck that noise.

02:30:59.000 Yeah, but what do you think about Vitor now?

02:31:01.000 Because Vitor's gonna...

02:31:02.000 And he's gonna get a title shot!

02:31:04.000 But Weidman, that ain't no picnic, bro.

02:31:06.000 No!

02:31:06.000 Him fighting Weidman?

02:31:08.000 No!

02:31:08.000 Coming off the sauce and fighting Weidman?

02:31:10.000 I know, man.

02:31:11.000 Have you seen photos of Vitor?

02:31:12.000 Have you seen video of him lately?

02:31:14.000 No.

02:31:14.000 He does not look the same.

02:31:15.000 He doesn't?

02:31:15.000 He does not look the same.

02:31:16.000 He looks much smaller.

02:31:17.000 He's gonna probably get destroyed, man.

02:31:20.000 Yeah, it looks like he almost can make welterweight.

02:31:22.000 Dang.

02:31:22.000 Wow.

02:31:23.000 Yeah.

02:31:24.000 He takes a size 9 shoe.

02:31:25.000 He's got small hands and feet.

02:31:26.000 Yeah, he's not the biggest guy in the world.

02:31:28.000 He's had a lot of broken hands because of that.

02:31:29.000 Ooh, his wife is a dyme.

02:31:31.000 You like that, huh?

02:31:32.000 I like that.

02:31:33.000 Look at you.

02:31:33.000 Sorry, man.

02:31:34.000 Yeah, with the Bigfoot stuff, it's tough, man.

02:31:38.000 It's tough.

02:31:39.000 You almost want to say, alright, if you can't fight without taking this stuff, you should probably stop fighting.

02:31:44.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:31:45.000 It's not fair.

02:31:46.000 Either way you paint it, even if he needs the stuff, it's not fair.

02:31:48.000 Because the other guys aren't on it.

02:31:50.000 And that is the truth.

02:31:51.000 If you can't fight without it, you really should stop fighting.

02:31:55.000 Because a lot of the reasons why these people need that stuff is because of head injuries.

02:32:00.000 Or cheating.

02:32:01.000 Or you used to do steroids.

02:32:03.000 You used to cheat.

02:32:03.000 Whatever the reason is, if I fight Bigfoot Silva and he's all juiced up on whatever cocktail he has in Brazil that I'm not on, you punch me in the face and I suffer horrible brain trauma because you were sauced up.

02:32:16.000 Or how about I punch him as hard as I can?

02:32:19.000 Dude, there's about two guys in this world who can take a Mark Hunt punch to the face.

02:32:24.000 Roy Nelson, who he's fighting September, and Bigfoot Silva, juiced up.

02:32:28.000 Only juiced up.

02:32:29.000 He's not taking his...

02:32:30.000 Well, his head is enormous, so it probably helps him.

02:32:32.000 However, juiced up, it's helping him.

02:32:34.000 You can't sit in the pocket with Mark Hunt.

02:32:36.000 No one in this world can except for those two guys.

02:32:37.000 I wonder if it did help him, because if you know the whole story, Hunt fought Bigfoot...

02:32:43.000 And they had this incredible war, but then it turns out they tested Bigfoot after the fight.

02:32:48.000 He was on testosterone replacement, tested him before the fight, he was at normal levels, tested him after the fight, jacked to the roof.

02:32:54.000 Took some stuff in the locker room, maybe.

02:32:56.000 Allegedly.

02:32:57.000 And he blamed his doctor.

02:32:58.000 Yeah, blamed his doctor, which is crazy.

02:33:00.000 His doctor's gonna sue him.

02:33:01.000 He said he was gonna sue him.

02:33:02.000 I don't know.

02:33:03.000 Who knows what the fuck happened.

02:33:04.000 Either way, he illegally took stuff.

02:33:06.000 He definitely had elevated testosterone and he definitely had a tremendous ability to absorb punishment.

02:33:13.000 It didn't show in the Cormier fight.

02:33:16.000 Cormier put him away.

02:33:17.000 Kane put him away.

02:33:18.000 Kane lit him up and dropped him and put him away quick in their fight.

02:33:21.000 And Mark Hunt hits harder than both of them combined.

02:33:24.000 There's no one in this heavyweight division that hits harder than Mark Hunt in the world.

02:33:28.000 There's just not.

02:33:28.000 Isn't that fascinating that testosterone can do that for you?

02:33:31.000 It's crazy.

02:33:31.000 All you have to do is just go in there with...

02:33:33.000 Hyper elevated levels.

02:33:35.000 So take out the part that he has fucking giganticism.

02:33:38.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:33:38.000 He's an absolute monster.

02:33:40.000 But now he can absorb punches and hit harder and better cardio.

02:33:45.000 Fuck.

02:33:46.000 If you're doing EPO and everything, you assume he's also doing that.

02:33:50.000 I don't know.

02:33:51.000 Listen, if you're open to this cocktail, if you love whiskey, you're not going to turn down vodka.

02:33:57.000 You're going to take the best cocktail.

02:33:57.000 You're going to do whatever.

02:33:59.000 You guys believe that I don't do anything?

02:34:01.000 No, I think you're on...

02:34:02.000 He had to bring it back to himself.

02:34:03.000 That is the question.

02:34:05.000 It's like, how many guys are on things?

02:34:08.000 This is the thing, Joe.

02:34:09.000 If you're open to put these...

02:34:12.000 Supplements in your body.

02:34:13.000 Why wouldn't you be open to putting these other supplements in your body?

02:34:16.000 Of course.

02:34:16.000 You're not just like, well, I'll do this, but I gotta stay at this limit.

02:34:19.000 And they're like, well, if you do this, you're really gonna be a badass.

02:34:21.000 No, that's just ethically wrong.

02:34:24.000 Yeah.

02:34:24.000 If you're putting a needle in your ass, what do you care if it's filled halfway or full?

02:34:28.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:34:28.000 That's true.

02:34:29.000 Yeah, that is true.

02:34:30.000 I mean, and a guy like Chael, I mean, that pretty much proves it.

02:34:34.000 You know, Chael had his reasons why he said that he took those first two supplements.

02:34:38.000 And then it turns out that they have this incredibly detailed, Testing that Lorenzo pays for that's $45,000 per fighter.

02:34:47.000 And they're taking this.

02:34:48.000 This is a crazy thing.

02:34:49.000 They take the blood, rather.

02:34:51.000 They take a test from you.

02:34:53.000 And then the guy has a direct chain of custody.

02:34:56.000 So he's taking this, flying with this blood, to the place where they're testing it.

02:35:00.000 That's nuts.

02:35:00.000 He's like a notary.

02:35:02.000 Mm-hmm.

02:35:02.000 Yeah, I mean, well, he's basically like the guy carrying the fucking nuclear codes.

02:35:06.000 You know, he's flying with it in his possession at all times, gets to the lab, so it's never left his possession, and then they test it.

02:35:13.000 And, you know, they test it.

02:35:14.000 That's how Chael got busted for all that stuff.

02:35:16.000 Mm-hmm.

02:35:16.000 EPO and HGH, which the athletic commissions were not testing for, because it's fucking expensive as shit.

02:35:22.000 Yeah.

02:35:22.000 You know, if they had a...

02:35:23.000 Look, if a fighter's getting paid eight grand, eight and eight, eight to win, eight to show...

02:35:28.000 And it's cost $45,000 to test him.

02:35:31.000 Something's crazy.

02:35:32.000 That's why only the superstars are going to get caught.

02:35:34.000 Because you're paying the superstars so much money, it's worth it to risk it.

02:35:37.000 Is it worth it now?

02:35:38.000 Because now we just lost one of the biggest faces of the UFC who could talk people into liking the UFC. Yeah.

02:35:45.000 Is it, though?

02:35:46.000 I don't think it's worth it.

02:35:47.000 Well, what is...

02:35:48.000 Because he's not the only one.

02:35:49.000 No.

02:35:49.000 It's like baseball.

02:35:50.000 When people figure out Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa, you dumb fucks, all the pitchers were on it.

02:35:55.000 So it's a fair game.

02:35:57.000 Lance Armstrong, listen, when he tested positive, they had to go back to 15th place to find a guy who didn't test positive.

02:36:03.000 It's a level playing field if everyone's on it, you fucks.

02:36:06.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:36:07.000 Sort of, but it's kind of...

02:36:09.000 Well...

02:36:10.000 It's like, especially in combat sports, like, well, it's dangerous.

02:36:13.000 Well, so is getting punched in the face.

02:36:14.000 Yeah.

02:36:15.000 You know, that's pretty dangerous, too.

02:36:17.000 Super dangerous.

02:36:17.000 It also keeps your career...

02:36:18.000 You can fight longer.

02:36:20.000 You can play longer.

02:36:21.000 Yeah.

02:36:22.000 You know, you're not hitting a fastball if your bat speed slows down a lot of times in the major leagues.

02:36:26.000 But you can make 20 more million dollars and play for five years if you take...

02:36:30.000 Some stuff.

02:36:30.000 Ryan Braun?

02:36:31.000 Ryan Braun, the guy who got busted and ratted out everyone saying how he was against stuff.

02:36:35.000 That guy made $144 million.

02:36:37.000 Went to fucking Costa Rica.

02:36:39.000 I was suspended.

02:36:39.000 Came back.

02:36:40.000 He's fine.

02:36:41.000 Why wouldn't I do it?

02:36:42.000 And you stay injury-free.

02:36:43.000 I'm balls deep in Costa Rican bitches.

02:36:44.000 You stay injury-free.

02:36:46.000 $140 million in the bank.

02:36:47.000 Right.

02:36:47.000 Everyone forgets.

02:36:48.000 He got a stand ovation when he went back to Milwaukee.

02:36:51.000 Really?

02:36:51.000 Like, yeah, he's back.

02:36:53.000 Hey, guys.

02:36:54.000 Took a year off.

02:36:56.000 Recuperated my body.

02:36:57.000 Rich as shit.

02:36:58.000 Yep.

02:36:58.000 And you stay injury-free, though.

02:37:00.000 That's the other thing he's saying.

02:37:01.000 Guaranteed.

02:37:02.000 Guaranteed.

02:37:03.000 And so they don't take any of that away from you when you test positive for drugs and rat out your friends?

02:37:06.000 Maybe like 10 million.

02:37:07.000 Who gives a fuck?

02:37:09.000 Filthy rich.

02:37:10.000 Filthy rich.

02:37:11.000 That's so gross, though, isn't it?

02:37:13.000 That's an issue with Chael, as well.

02:37:15.000 They're bringing in the federal guys, so they're going to ask him questions.

02:37:18.000 Where'd you get the EPO? Especially EPO. That is a motherfucker.

02:37:21.000 That's a super, super illegal thing.

02:37:24.000 Yeah, you have that stuff.

02:37:25.000 All of it's not good, man.

02:37:26.000 EPO, HGH, testosterone, whatever else he's on.

02:37:29.000 But HGH is normal.

02:37:30.000 You could find that.

02:37:32.000 EPO is tricky.

02:37:33.000 It's very dangerous.

02:37:34.000 They always say nobody went to jail for taking steroids, but you go to jail for lying to the feds.

02:37:38.000 You go to jail for lying.

02:37:39.000 You go to jail for lying, and you go to jail for selling it in mass distributions.

02:37:44.000 Yeah, it's going to be really interesting to see what happens with jail.

02:37:47.000 I mean, I don't know where the fuck he got it from, but...

02:37:49.000 Brian Stan was talking about it, like, you know, that he had a conversation with Shale.

02:37:52.000 He's like, you better be forthcoming.

02:37:53.000 When they come to you and they ask you questions, that is where you can't lie to them.

02:37:57.000 Listen, if Brian Stan tells me something as far as the government goes, I'm for sure listening.

02:38:01.000 Because he's working for him.

02:38:03.000 I'm calling him sir, too.

02:38:04.000 Yes, sir.

02:38:05.000 Why are you calling me sir?

02:38:06.000 I don't know.

02:38:06.000 I'm really freaked out right now.

02:38:08.000 I'm really freaked out right now.

02:38:09.000 Can you just come back to my hotel room and talk to me?

02:38:12.000 Can you talk me to sleep?

02:38:13.000 You're the inside guy here, more than any of us, right?

02:38:16.000 If I had to ask you, how many guys do you think, what percentage guys are taking HGH? There's a headline going to be tomorrow.

02:38:25.000 Shop thinks everyone's on shit.

02:38:27.000 Refuses to fight Bigfoot.

02:38:28.000 Only in Denver.

02:38:29.000 I'm just going to say some numbers and you just give me facial expressions that don't necessarily confirm nor deny.

02:38:36.000 Okay?

02:38:38.000 60%.

02:38:41.000 70%.

02:38:42.000 Wow.

02:38:42.000 We're going to stop there.

02:38:43.000 I don't want it to be...

02:38:44.000 That's amazing.

02:38:45.000 I don't even...

02:38:45.000 Yeah.

02:38:46.000 Like when I fought LeVar Johns, for instance, we went on the scales, and we get off, I turn my coach, I go, come on, bro.

02:38:53.000 He's obviously on stuff.

02:38:54.000 I just assumed.

02:38:56.000 Everyone's like, bro, he's jacked.

02:38:57.000 I'm like, yeah, yeah, I know.

02:38:59.000 Literally, I just assume he's on shit.

02:39:02.000 I assume he's on HGH. I assume he's on testosterone.

02:39:04.000 It's just part of the game we play.

02:39:06.000 Which is fucking insane!

02:39:08.000 Right.

02:39:08.000 Because he hit me with like this 30% uppercut and I was like in La La Land, almost ripped my fucking lips off.

02:39:14.000 30% uppercut.

02:39:15.000 30% because it kind of went with it.

02:39:18.000 Right.

02:39:18.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:39:19.000 That thing lands, my jaw's all shattered.

02:39:21.000 I'm fucking Kanye West style, like slurping my dinner and shit.

02:39:25.000 What happened to Kanye West?

02:39:26.000 He got shot, I think, right?

02:39:28.000 And broke his jaw or something.

02:39:29.000 Was it?

02:39:29.000 Car accident.

02:39:30.000 Car accident.

02:39:30.000 When shot.

02:39:31.000 I like figure gangster shot.

02:39:33.000 I made that up.

02:39:33.000 He's not a gangster.

02:39:33.000 I assumed.

02:39:35.000 He wears like Gucci loafers and shit.

02:39:37.000 He's a gangster.

02:39:38.000 I don't know.

02:39:39.000 Sports are crazy.

02:39:40.000 Listen.

02:39:41.000 It's just not the UFC. We're talking about like it's just UFC prom.

02:39:44.000 This is everything.

02:39:46.000 Watch the NFL Network.

02:39:47.000 The bottom of the screen goes Jordan Dixon gets spent for enhancing performance enhancers.

02:39:53.000 It happens all the time but they don't make a big deal of it.

02:39:55.000 Literally.

02:39:56.000 You don't hear about it.

02:39:57.000 You didn't hear about it on SportsCenter.

02:39:58.000 Well, no one gets tested more than combat athletes, but in my opinion...

02:40:01.000 But it's weird.

02:40:02.000 They make such a big deal of it.

02:40:03.000 Well, here's the reason.

02:40:04.000 These other sports, they don't.

02:40:05.000 Because if you're better because of performance-enhancing drugs, you're better at hitting a ball.

02:40:11.000 You're better at throwing a ball.

02:40:13.000 You're better at doing sports.

02:40:15.000 But you're not better at beating the fuck out of a person and causing damage to their brain.

02:40:20.000 And definitely taking years off their life.

02:40:22.000 Yeah.

02:40:23.000 We saw A-Rod last night in Vegas.

02:40:24.000 I'm a fan.

02:40:25.000 I'm a fan.

02:40:26.000 I've always liked him.

02:40:27.000 Had a couple of gals with him.

02:40:28.000 Looks like he's having a good old time.

02:40:30.000 What the fuck?

02:40:31.000 This guy was at the bar.

02:40:32.000 Two blonde dime pieces who I was going to go up to and kind of snagged myself.

02:40:35.000 Good thing I didn't.

02:40:36.000 Because they've been like, huh?

02:40:39.000 Get the fuck out of here.

02:40:41.000 You know what kind of money A-Rod's paying is?

02:40:43.000 Get the fuck out of here.

02:40:44.000 He's in the suite.

02:40:45.000 Oh, I'm in the cellar.

02:40:46.000 I'm sorry.

02:40:46.000 I'm down below.

02:40:47.000 I'm down below in New York.

02:40:48.000 Literally in the subway.

02:40:49.000 But I tell you, if I was A-Rod, I would be like, hey girls.

02:40:51.000 Here, my eyes are up here.

02:40:52.000 Look at me.

02:40:53.000 They did have the hungry eyes for Big Brown, huh?

02:40:55.000 They were looking at me.

02:40:57.000 You got a little wave.

02:40:58.000 I still got it, son.

02:40:59.000 You got a wave.

02:40:59.000 Hey, A-Rod, your girls were looking.

02:41:01.000 Well, let's talk about that.

02:41:02.000 They like the merchandise.

02:41:03.000 There's a difference.

02:41:04.000 There's a difference between an athlete and a fighter.

02:41:07.000 When there's a bunch of athletes, but then the fighter walks in the room, the stakes have been changed.

02:41:12.000 For sure.

02:41:13.000 Alpha male in the house.

02:41:16.000 Cool, you hit a little white ball?

02:41:18.000 That's awesome.

02:41:19.000 I'll snap your fucking neck.

02:41:21.000 That's great.

02:41:22.000 I wish I could say that.

02:41:23.000 I'll snap your neck and then fuck the two girls you brought.

02:41:26.000 Yeah, and you can't do anything about it.

02:41:28.000 Look at Brian.

02:41:28.000 I wish I could do that.

02:41:29.000 I know, I'm all jealous.

02:41:30.000 His feet are twisting up inside his shoes right now.

02:41:33.000 His toes are curling up and sweaty.

02:41:34.000 It's not the Boston Red Sox, motherfucker.

02:41:36.000 Old snap your neck and take your girls.

02:41:38.000 Is there a single, like, sport that commands more respect in that sense?

02:41:42.000 Not even close.

02:41:43.000 Not even close.

02:41:44.000 Not even close.

02:41:45.000 Because MMA, people really can't.

02:41:47.000 They're even like, what?

02:41:48.000 Well, look at fucking Floyd Mayweather.

02:41:49.000 He's compared to Ronda Rousey.

02:41:51.000 And everybody says Ronda Rousey would beat his ass in a street fight.

02:41:53.000 Beat the shit out of him.

02:41:54.000 Everyone knows that.

02:41:54.000 I mean, I think she would.

02:41:56.000 I really do.

02:41:56.000 100% she would.

02:41:57.000 You look at that last fight.

02:41:58.000 I'm not mad at BJ's girl either.

02:42:00.000 She's very pretty, but look at poor BJ, man.

02:42:02.000 That is rough.

02:42:03.000 See, that's the difference between us.

02:42:04.000 You looked at BJ, I looked at his girl.

02:42:06.000 Oh, man.

02:42:06.000 It's hard to watch, man.

02:42:08.000 The worst, man.

02:42:09.000 I love that guy.

02:42:10.000 Hard to watch, man.

02:42:11.000 You know, now he's got to go home to his kids like that.

02:42:13.000 I mean, that was something that he said when he fought Nick Diaz.

02:42:16.000 I was talking to him.

02:42:17.000 He's like, I can't keep going home to my children looking like this.

02:42:19.000 That's a beast, man.

02:42:20.000 Kids are scared of me, you know.

02:42:22.000 Dan Cormier once again, kids!

02:42:24.000 I hate when I lose.

02:42:24.000 I hate being around my neighbors.

02:42:26.000 I'm like, damn, sorry, man.

02:42:27.000 Do they talk to you?

02:42:28.000 And I hate my neighbors.

02:42:29.000 I hate them.

02:42:30.000 But I walk in and I'm like, fuck, sorry, bro.

02:42:33.000 I can't stand my neighbors.

02:42:35.000 That's hilarious.

02:42:36.000 We hate each other.

02:42:37.000 Really?

02:42:37.000 Yeah.

02:42:38.000 What's it about?

02:42:38.000 Because they're 50 and act like they're 30 and they party and do drugs and keep me up when I'm in camp.

02:42:43.000 Oh, no.

02:42:44.000 And the guy knows who I am, you know what I'm saying?

02:42:46.000 Like, come on, bro.

02:42:47.000 I just talked about snapping A-Rod's neck.

02:42:49.000 What do you think I'll do to you?

02:42:50.000 They're 50 and they party all night?

02:42:53.000 Party, do drugs, coke, banging on the walls.

02:42:55.000 They yell at me when I bang on the walls.

02:42:57.000 I'm moving out of there, by the way, though.

02:42:59.000 Things are moving up.

02:43:00.000 No, my place is super nice, Doug.

02:43:03.000 My place is super nice.

02:43:04.000 It's super nice, but they're just whatever.

02:43:06.000 I don't know.

02:43:07.000 So you guys bang on the walls with each other?

02:43:09.000 I bang on the walls and she yells at me.

02:43:11.000 Alright, I hear you.

02:43:12.000 I'll turn it down.

02:43:15.000 Cheeto fingers.

02:43:16.000 I went over there.

02:43:17.000 I gave them a motivational talk.

02:43:18.000 It didn't work.

02:43:19.000 You gave them a motivational talk?

02:43:20.000 Yeah, how they need to clean their life, let them stop eating Cheetos and get a job.

02:43:24.000 Did you really?

02:43:24.000 No, I didn't.

02:43:26.000 I want to, though.

02:43:27.000 I'll do that.

02:43:28.000 $49.95, I'll come to your house with Cheeto fingers.

02:43:31.000 When you're in mid-camp and you're fucking training your ass off and you're constantly exhausted and constantly pushing it, do you look at this like, you know, like, man...

02:43:39.000 There's only a certain amount of years I can do this.

02:43:43.000 No, I don't.

02:43:43.000 I think once you start thinking that, you're fucked.

02:43:45.000 I think you're right.

02:43:46.000 Because they told me, I've heard about, I'm not going to mention names, a fellow heavyweight who was going through camp recently and was like, fuck this, man, this sucks.

02:43:55.000 Guess who doesn't say that in camp?

02:43:58.000 Me.

02:43:58.000 I'm like, fuck, man.

02:44:00.000 All I think about is what I did wrong.

02:44:03.000 I'm usually like, fuck, I gotta do this, I gotta do this, I gotta do this.

02:44:05.000 I constantly think how I can get better.

02:44:06.000 You're very self-motivated, too.

02:44:08.000 You're not a guy who needs someone to wake you up.

02:44:10.000 Fuck, no.

02:44:11.000 Because guess what?

02:44:12.000 If you have to have someone yell at you to motivate you and make you successful, someone's gonna yell at you while you're fucking getting your ass whipped.

02:44:20.000 You don't want that.

02:44:20.000 You know who else is self-motivated?

02:44:22.000 Brian Callen.

02:44:23.000 That's right, ladies and gentlemen.

02:44:24.000 He gets up, he pretends to work out, does some kipping chin-ups.

02:44:32.000 Hands are getting faster.

02:44:33.000 Yeah, man.

02:44:33.000 Life's crazy.

02:44:34.000 Runs up the hill and gets tired.

02:44:38.000 That's it, guys.

02:44:40.000 I'm going to go to bed, get up early.

02:44:42.000 Are you?

02:44:42.000 What time are you working out tomorrow?

02:44:43.000 Train, do my meditation, read Nietzsche.

02:44:45.000 Do you read Nietzsche?

02:44:46.000 No.

02:44:47.000 No, not at all.

02:44:48.000 Just like the way it sounds.

02:44:49.000 It's a good thing to say to chicks if you try and impress them.

02:44:51.000 Of course it does.

02:44:52.000 Get into my horse stance.

02:44:52.000 It's a classic story.

02:44:53.000 The first time I ever went to Brian's house, he had some fucking catcher in the rye or some shit open on his coffee table.

02:45:00.000 I go, you don't read that.

02:45:01.000 I go, you put that out there when chicks come over to impress him.

02:45:04.000 He goes, you're right.

02:45:05.000 I tell a story about that in my stand-up.

02:45:07.000 I'm just laying books around.

02:45:08.000 She was really smart.

02:45:09.000 She went to Princeton.

02:45:10.000 I was like...

02:45:10.000 Oh, look.

02:45:11.000 Hemingway.

02:45:12.000 I don't know.

02:45:12.000 I guess I read it.

02:45:13.000 Are you reading the dictionary?

02:45:15.000 When I'm not on TV, I read.

02:45:17.000 Hemingway.

02:45:18.000 Trying to be all smart.

02:45:19.000 Something I picked up in a book.

02:45:21.000 Something I picked up in a book, kids.

02:45:23.000 Because I'm white.

02:45:23.000 W-H-I-T. Do you ever read books about training?

02:45:26.000 About mental toughness?

02:45:29.000 Yeah.

02:45:30.000 A lot of people do, right?

02:45:31.000 Yeah, I read a lot of mental books, mental toughness.

02:45:34.000 I read a lot of military stuff.

02:45:37.000 Really?

02:45:38.000 Because if you can picture how military guys, like Navy SEALs, what they go through and the mind frame they get in, what we do is nothing compared to them.

02:45:46.000 You've got to think about the nerves the Navy SEAL's dealing with before they go into war.

02:45:49.000 And they talk about the breathing technique and the mentality they have, especially when they're going through boot camp and the Navy SEAL selection, which is insane because one out of 99 makes the cut.

02:46:00.000 I'm saying the guys who make it and the guys who run it say they can always tell who's going to make it because I guess they talk to them and interview them after each day and the guys will be like, yeah, man, there's only three weeks left.

02:46:13.000 If I can just get through these three weeks.

02:46:15.000 They say when that guy walks out of the room, like, he's fucked.

02:46:17.000 He's not going to make it.

02:46:18.000 Then when another guy comes in the room, he's like, I'm just trying to get through tomorrow, man.

02:46:21.000 I'm just trying to get through tomorrow.

02:46:22.000 I literally take it one drill at a time.

02:46:24.000 I go, just get through this drill and take the next drill.

02:46:26.000 And it's the same thing in fighting.

02:46:28.000 And that's what I do.

02:46:29.000 I never look at the grand scheme of things.

02:46:31.000 I never do.

02:46:32.000 Like, I'll wake up and like, alright, you got five rounds of sparring.

02:46:35.000 Let's do this first round.

02:46:37.000 And then I look at the second round, third, fourth, fifth.

02:46:39.000 That's interesting.

02:46:40.000 But if you look at the grand scheme, like, oh man, I got 12 weeks to get ready for this fight.

02:46:43.000 And you think about the 12 weeks?

02:46:44.000 What the fuck?

02:46:45.000 That's a lot of work, man.

02:46:47.000 You're going to be overwhelmed.

02:46:47.000 You're not going to be focused at your best breaking it down individually.

02:46:51.000 That's interesting, but what about the overall game?

02:46:53.000 If you look at your overall mixed martial arts game and trying to improve and trying to compare all these things, do you have an overall assessment of over six weeks I would like to look like this?

02:47:07.000 Seven weeks in, I would like to be at these numbers, I'd like to be doing these rounds, I'd like to be doing...

02:47:13.000 Do you have things mapped out like that?

02:47:15.000 No, because cardio has never been a huge issue for me.

02:47:17.000 I always get in crazy shape.

02:47:19.000 The one thing I do have as a marker, like a numerical marker, is my resting heart rate.

02:47:25.000 If I'm above 40, I freak out.

02:47:27.000 I'm usually around 37, 38 when I'm in phenomenal shape, which beats Michael Phelps and Hussain Bolt, by the way.

02:47:33.000 Wow.

02:47:34.000 So when I'm like 37, for Mitriona, I get down I think 36, 37 is like the best I've ever been.

02:47:40.000 Jesus Christ.

02:47:41.000 It's crazy, right?

02:47:42.000 What gets your heart rate there?

02:47:44.000 Just being in phenomenal shape, man.

02:47:45.000 What is the best thing that you do?

02:47:48.000 What do you attribute that to?

02:47:51.000 I don't know if I can put to one thing.

02:47:53.000 I'll just say the tempo I set non-stop.

02:47:56.000 And then I finish my week off by running on the track, doing these long sprints where we monitor my heart rate.

02:48:03.000 So I'll end my heart rate by like 188. As soon as it gets down to 140, I'm running again.

02:48:08.000 Wow.

02:48:09.000 That's how that does it, yeah.

02:48:10.000 As soon as it gets down to 140. 140. Wow.

02:48:13.000 As soon as it hits 140, that's my wrist.

02:48:14.000 That's not very low.

02:48:14.000 It's not very low.

02:48:15.000 No.

02:48:17.000 That's where I get my confidence from, though, man.

02:48:19.000 Because I'm fucking terrified.

02:48:21.000 And I'll be honest, I suffer a little bit from body issues, too, man.

02:48:24.000 Because I'm not, like, super ripped.

02:48:26.000 So that's why I'm always on a diet.

02:48:27.000 Like, tomorrow, I'm going on a four-day juicing cleanse.

02:48:30.000 I'm just going to drink a juice for four days.

02:48:32.000 What?

02:48:32.000 Had some donuts.

02:48:33.000 Had some donuts at the airport.

02:48:34.000 Yeah, I eat like shit and I'm going to go on this four day.

02:48:37.000 And Wendy's.

02:48:37.000 You ate Wendy's?

02:48:39.000 Yeah, I did.

02:48:39.000 First time I've had fast food in probably eight years.

02:48:41.000 It's alright.

02:48:42.000 It's alright.

02:48:42.000 I gave it a nod.

02:48:44.000 You're hungry and tired and you did some drinking this weekend?

02:48:47.000 Yeah.

02:48:47.000 Did a little craziness?

02:48:48.000 Just humanity.

02:48:49.000 Got a little crazy.

02:48:51.000 So when you say body issues, like you feel weird when you take your shirt off inside the octagon?

02:48:55.000 Like that kind of thing?

02:48:56.000 No, not really inside the octagon.

02:48:58.000 Like when I'm out of camp, it's rare you see me with like my shirt off.

02:49:01.000 Which I'm always in good shape.

02:49:03.000 I would never wear clothes if I had your body.

02:49:05.000 It's weird, right?

02:49:06.000 I wear cloth.

02:49:08.000 Listen, you talk to Ariane, I'm sure there's something she doesn't like on her bike.

02:49:11.000 Everyone suffers from it.

02:49:12.000 For me, though, it's just like when you're looked at as an elite athlete, I never want people to see me not in shape.

02:49:20.000 Which I am in shape, but I don't want people to see me out of my peak.

02:49:24.000 But you see a guy like Fedor always had a little bit of a gut.

02:49:28.000 He just didn't give a fuck.

02:49:30.000 He was just like, whatever.

02:49:32.000 He had no ass, a gut, just balding, was like, fuck it.

02:49:36.000 Wasn't worried at all about the way he looked.

02:49:38.000 I know, it's different, it's different, I know.

02:49:39.000 Don't you wish he could be like that?

02:49:41.000 I guess, yeah.

02:49:42.000 Hell yeah, I do.

02:49:44.000 Do you think, like, maybe if you, like, thought the way he thinks?

02:49:48.000 I mean, is there a way to, like, emulate that sort of a mindset or program yourself to things like that?

02:49:52.000 It has to do culturally with what is considered manly.

02:49:55.000 He also doesn't care.

02:49:57.000 Like, I care how I look.

02:49:58.000 I'm very vain.

02:49:59.000 I like fast cars, bad bitches, and I live on the beach.

02:50:02.000 He lives in Russia, wrestles grizzly beers, drinks fucking beer, and fucking eats potatoes, and has a gut hanging over his belt.

02:50:11.000 And probably fucking Gutrude has fucking hair hanging out of her armpits.

02:50:14.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:50:15.000 We're both not really a Russian name.

02:50:17.000 We're very different.

02:50:19.000 We're very different.

02:50:22.000 I don't think it has anything to do with being successful or not.

02:50:25.000 I think some of the biggest stars I know, most successful people I know, are very self-conscious.

02:50:29.000 Really?

02:50:30.000 Big time.

02:50:31.000 In MMA? MMA, NFL, acting.

02:50:36.000 Please don't ever use acting with MMA and NFL. I'm saying stars, though.

02:50:40.000 I'm saying stars.

02:50:41.000 I understand, but please, you hurt my soul.

02:50:43.000 Please, sir.

02:50:43.000 Put that together.

02:50:45.000 What athletes do you think in MMA are real self-conscious like that?

02:50:52.000 Certain ones.

02:50:52.000 You don't want to talk about it?

02:50:53.000 Nope.

02:50:53.000 Not at all.

02:50:54.000 I'll tell you off air though.

02:50:55.000 Okay.

02:50:55.000 Well, let's wrap this bitch up.

02:50:57.000 This is another fucking fun fight companion, man.

02:50:59.000 Great, man.

02:50:59.000 Awesome.

02:51:00.000 I wanted to talk a little while at the end to alleviate some depression.

02:51:03.000 For sure, man.

02:51:04.000 I was super down.

02:51:05.000 I was going to crash Brian's facade into the wall and not pay for it.

02:51:11.000 Yeah, it didn't.

02:51:12.000 I mean, it's not surprising, but it kind of is anyway.

02:51:15.000 You just don't want to see that shit.

02:51:17.000 Yeah.

02:51:18.000 All right, folks.

02:51:19.000 When are we going to do this again?

02:51:20.000 When's the next one?

02:51:21.000 You tell us.

02:51:22.000 Let's find out right now.

02:51:23.000 We'll find out.

02:51:23.000 When's the next one?

02:51:24.000 And will you bring your boy Joey Diaz?

02:51:26.000 I would try.

02:51:27.000 I love that, man.

02:51:27.000 I want to laugh.

02:51:28.000 Joey Diaz.

02:51:29.000 Although you guys make me laugh.

02:51:30.000 Let's find out what the schedule is.

02:51:31.000 Real quick, Brian had a nose job, everybody.

02:51:33.000 Wednesday.

02:51:34.000 Hey, guys.

02:51:35.000 Wednesday, July 16th.

02:51:37.000 Who's where?

02:51:37.000 Where are you guys at?

02:51:38.000 I'm here.

02:51:38.000 Are you here?

02:51:39.000 You bet your ass I'm here.

02:51:39.000 Fuck yeah.

02:51:40.000 Donald Cerrone, Jim Miller.

02:51:41.000 Ooh!

02:51:43.000 That's the next one.

02:51:44.000 And it's a Wednesday night.

02:51:45.000 So Wednesday.

02:51:46.000 No one has shit to do.

02:51:47.000 July 16th.

02:51:48.000 I'm going to try real hard to get Joey Diaz in here.

02:51:51.000 Evan Dunham and Edson Barboza.

02:51:54.000 Damn, that's a good fight.

02:51:54.000 Also in that fight.

02:51:55.000 Yeah.

02:51:56.000 Good fight.

02:51:56.000 Yeah.

02:51:57.000 Should be very exciting.

02:51:59.000 So, alright, you dirty freaks, we'll see you then.

02:52:01.000 Until then, Brian Callen on Twitter, B-R-Y-A-N-C-A-L-L-E-N-N, Brendan Shaw, that's S-C-H-A-U-B, a.k.a.

02:52:14.000 Big Brown.

02:52:15.000 Can you get Big Brown on Twitter?

02:52:17.000 I don't know.

02:52:17.000 Just try to find Big Brown, man.

02:52:18.000 That's true.

02:52:19.000 Please stop sending me dick pics.

02:52:20.000 How many people send you dick pics?

02:52:22.000 I'll probably get eight a week.

02:52:23.000 That's how you know you made it.

02:52:24.000 That's how you know you made it.

02:52:25.000 Do I check them out?

02:52:26.000 Yeah.

02:52:27.000 Yeah.

02:52:28.000 Come see me in West Palm.

02:52:29.000 We will see you with a real podcast tomorrow.

02:52:32.000 Until then, much love and big kiss.

02:52:34.000 Bye-bye.

The Joe Rogan Experience - July 07, 2014

Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - July 7, 2014

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