Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - June 18, 2016 - Part 1
Summary
Comedian Eddie Bravo is back from surgery and ready to go, but first he has to deal with the aftermath of his recent back surgery. He's not only back to full health, but he's ready to wear a new t-shirt that says "Eddie Bravo" on it, and we're here to explain why that's a bad thing. Plus, we talk about Kanye West's new sneaker line, and why Eddie should wear a shirt with his name on it. We also talk about Eddie's new stand-up routine, and what it's like to be on America's Got Talent. And, of course, we answer your burning questions! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. The 500 is a production of Native Creative Podcasts. Our theme song is Come Alone by Suneaters, courtesy of Lotuspool Records. Art: Macklemore and Ryan Lewis Music: Hayden Coplen Editor: Steven Kanter Cover art by Ian Dorsch Art Direction: Jeff Perla Mixing by Haley Shaw Thank you to Rachel Ward and Matthew Boll for the use of . and in this episode is a work of music by Brian Callen, and our thanks to our sponsor, & , and . . . Thanks to at , . , , Brian Callan of @ , Justin McElroy, and , , ( ) and & @ to , . , & ,and . ( ) - etc., thanks to . and ) and @ & . & , & Thank You, , thanks from ! on , etc. , @ , and . (and , is thank you, & & & // + , Thank you, and my thanks, @ , and all of ,& , from , AND , so much , thank you , And , Thanks, etc, and Thank you , and thank you , etc , & all , + so much, and all AND ;
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Eddie Bravo, fresh out of fucking surgeries here.
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I'd be in bed, my feet up, pilled out of my mind.
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It wasn't orchestrated, although if Brian Callen had a character and his opening in a sitcom was like how Kramer slides in, Brian would have a nice bottle of wine and he would pop it and then he would explain the vineyard and what part of France...
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But because it's so good, you know, and Giancarlo Fenocchio is my favorite.
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But Brendan Motherfucker Shop is here with a powerful Young Jamie t-shirt fresh out of the box.
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Young Jamie, where does a motherfucker get a Y-N-G-J-M-E, like Run DMC Young Jamie shirt?
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Folks, you don't have to buy it, but it is a dope shirt.
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He's got his own shirt on, which is a strong move.
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That is one thing a stand-up comic cannot pull off.
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You cannot walk around with a shirt with your own face on it.
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There was one shirt that was an Eddie Bravo scramble shirt.
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But something that says Eddie Bravo jujitsu or something, I don't know.
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I'd like to get jujitsu shirts made with my name.
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I've definitely worn JRE shirts before, but it was almost like nobody knew what the fuck it meant.
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I feel like when you get to a certain amount of fame, you don't see anyone doing it.
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I wore a Finally Kids shirt for some picture, and Whitney Cummins went, don't ever, ever.
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Post a picture of you wearing your own shirt again.
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You can't be on America's Got Talent and wear an America's Got Talent t-shirt.
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If I own America's Got Talent, I'm going to wear America's Got Talent.
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If you were the host of Star Search and you had a Star Search shirt everywhere, you would go to clothes with a Star Search shirt.
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What if Johnny Depp wore a shirt that said, Johnny Depp.
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Dude, I think Kanye West is quite silly in a lot of ways, but his fucking sneakers look dope.
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I bought all his music because I told you I was hating on him and I went home.
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I literally bought all his music and he's so prolific, man.
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But you know who fucking makes me feel lazy as shit?
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Oh, speaking of someone who makes me feel lazy, my friend Cameron Haynes is in a 24-hour race right now.
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He said, but he's hurting and he's going to keep hammering.
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So at that pace, just stop and think about this.
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He's not going to be able to keep up that pace because that pace is insane.
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He did 106 last time in 24 hours and he came in, I want to say like fifth place.
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And I think the guy who won, I do not remember his name, but I believe he was north of 113. He might even ran 114. What was his build like?
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Cam was up to like 180. He lifts a lot of weights and he was up to like 180. That's huge.
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For a guy who runs a hundred, it's real crazy, but he runs a half a marathon literally every day because he's preparing for the Bigfoot 200 in August.
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So this hundred-mile race that he's doing, his 24-hour race, is just to prepare him for a 200-mile race in August.
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He beat Lance Armstrong in the Boston Marathon.
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He's one of the greatest endurance athletes the world's ever known?
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He eats elk and bear, and he runs, and he lifts, and he works an eight-hour-a-day job.
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Speaking of exhausted, let's talk about the first fight.
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This is the first, I think, is this the first UFC flyweight fight?
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She's the number five strawweight contender, but this is not a strawweight fight.
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I think, if I'm not, I could totally be wrong and the fucking nerds are going crazy right now.
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There was an undercard fight in fucking Poland!
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Show us the card, Jamie, on the other screen, so we can see what fights there are.
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Like Dom Herrera said, he's like, she could have a goat head.
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And Letourneau just had a fucking amazing fight with Johanna Jacek.
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She went to war, dude, for five rounds with this beast of a Muay Thai fighter.
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And she lost the fight, but she more than held her own.
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Valerie Letourneau, she got down at 125, which I think was too much of a struggle for her.
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And now she's at 125. This is her first fight at 125. But I believe she's fought at 135, too.
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Would you say Ioana's the best pound-for-pound female fighter?
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I gotta say, her fight with Claudia Gaudet was super, super close, man.
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She dropped her, though, with a big fucking uppercut.
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If you watch Ultimate Fighter, I thought she came off better than Ioana.
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They were throwing head kicks at each other and everything.
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Meanwhile, Calderwood is about to get caught in this Valerie LeTerno arm bar.
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Oh, Valerie goes for it again, but this time not even close.
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Egebrade, care to comment on the control of the posture?
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You know, doing jujitsu against that fence, it's tough.
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You're getting squashed and jujitsu practitioners generally aren't used to that.
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Yeah, you really kind of have to fight or train with one of those, huh?
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Yeah, you got to learn how to use the fence to your benefit.
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You know, man, I was really surprised when we used to roll at Legends, how much it hurts.
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Like, when your head gets banged into it, and your head gets pushed into it, it fucking hurts, man.
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No, I mean, if you're going to do, like, straight jiu-jitsu and you just want to do jiu-jitsu and never get involved in MMA, you really should have, like, a padded wall.
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But the cage looks good if someone's going to sign up.
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Full MMA. Training at a place with a full cage, bro.
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As a fucking total poser, I used to like to walk into that cage.
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You know you're a bad bitch if you got a shaved head.
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She got that spinning elbow right in the old jaw.
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If you want to sync up, it's 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5. That's probably the best way to do it, right?
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First round, Joanna Calderwood and Valerie Letourneau.
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Tamden got starched with one straight left hand.
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He was losing that fight, but they weren't giving him enough credit for the pressure that he was putting on Chris.
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So he won the second round and he was winning the third round.
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When Kenny was saying that he was down two rounds to one, I was like, man, I don't see how he could have lost the second.
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And then third was up in the air until he took him down.
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See, what I was seeing, though, was a lot of pressure.
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I mean, Chris was definitely hitting him, but he didn't have him hurt at any point.
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And Soto was constantly moving forward and constantly pressuring him.
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And then in the third, Soto started to tag him.
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Soto started to really put that pressure on him.
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No one has to tell you to back up while you're striking.
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So in order to run backwards all the time like that, it's exhausting.
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When Lyoto was at his best, you couldn't even get near him.
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But that's just, it's a thing that you could get good at.
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Like, Wanderboy's been doing it since he was a kid.
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It's like, it's a really important part of footwork.
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The backing up thing can't be exhausting to you.
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Because the moving forward thing is easy for everybody.
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So if a guy is just sort of walking you down, you can't hurt him.
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But you're constantly springing your body backwards, springing your body backwards, looking for openings.
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The guys that can grow backwards, successful, are some of the best.
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One of the things interesting about this fight tonight is that Rory brought in one of the best guys in the world at it.
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Raymond Daniels, that badass karate guy from Glory, who throws those 360 turning sidekicks and hits dudes in the face with them.
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So Rory's going to be working with a guy who can kick arguably as good as Wonderboy, or in the neighborhood at least.
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I would say better at his level, especially professionally.
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As a kickboxer, it's good to make that argument.
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Yeah, well the thing is, Wonderboy as a kickboxer was absolutely perfect.
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And did he lose to those guys because they were just so world class?
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We're talking so much shit through this awesome fight.
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Laterno's just throwing and connecting every time.
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That's the only way you can survive striking with Yon Jacek.
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But I do have to say, Joanna broke her hand in that fight.
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They say she would go into Golden Glory and just do work against dudes.
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She trains at American Top Team, which she can't have on her shorts.
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Even in boxing, you'd have Kronk on your shorts.
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They should have their fucking gym on their shorts.
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You should be able to have your gym on your shorts.
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On top of Reebok, you should definitely have your gym on your shorts.
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Why don't more fighters practice running backwards?
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This is the first time I've ever heard of this.
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Well, Eddie, you know how a lot of dudes don't like to be on the bottom?
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People don't want to do things that they don't like to do in training.
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And especially running backwards, it's not fun.
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I realized real early in doing Taekwondo how exhausting it is to try to move backwards.
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Because I used to spar with this kid who was a really good boxer and he used to beat my ass.
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I was always moving backwards and I would get exhausted.
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And then after a while, I realized, like, it's got to be connected not just to his pressure, but also the fact that I'm moving backwards so much.
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And then as I get better at boxing, I definitely found that that was the case.
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Like when I move forward, if I move forward and you're the counter puncher and you're going backwards, you're taking way more steps than I am moving forward.
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But if Muhammad Ali was doing it, you'd think that everybody would do it, right?
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They do sprints on treadmills running backwards.
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Well, I guess you kind of have to go on the balls of your foot running backwards.
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I want to ask you this question before I forget it.
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Now, did Jay Glazer just set that up all himself?
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I mean, he's definitely the captain of that ship, yeah.
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Dude, what a fucking huge move that is for him.
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Good spot, too, right off Sunset there, above Pink Taco.
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The reason I brought it up, they had these football players doing these exact same drills.
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They were running forwards and backwards and doing all this crazy sprinting shit where it's all like, you know, the coach will tell you, ready, backwards, go, forward, backwards.
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Well, you guys obviously didn't see that there's a trail for Tarzan.
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Almost all other sports practice going backwards.
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Conor's really good at moving backwards and moving forwards.
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But there's no doubt, I think, as we both agree.
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Yeah, he was like, looking back on it, I think I need to be more in the gym instead of climbing fucking logs.
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From what I heard, pretty sure he's like, you know what, I'm good on climbing trees and shit.
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I should probably work on my jiu-jitsu defense.
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There's a lot of merit in the movement movement.
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I'm just saying the guy who was the head of this movement movement was like, I'm good.
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One of the things in jujitsu, and Eddie Bravo will attest to this, is we had a bunch of break dancers start training, and Eddie was like the first to comment on it.
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They come in and they're really good right away.
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Well, their motor skills, too, with that movement.
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They're used to asking so much shit from their bodies.
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Hold an arm like this, you guys are having trouble with this.
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Well, they're doing backflips, they're doing one-handed handstands, they're jumping on one hand.
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Have you ever seen his black belt, Richie Martinez?
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Gio Martinez and Richie Martinez, brothers that have been breakdancing their whole lives.
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As an instructor, no instructor wants to give black belts early.
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It isn't something that you want to do because that's a reflection on you.
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And if you give it too early and they get crushed, you look bats.
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You're like, I'm not going to give you a black belt until I can make sure that you don't embarrass me.
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We're back on the fight here real quick because there was some sort of a change.
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We changed channels from Fox Sports 2 to Fox Sports 1. Why'd we do that?
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Who the fuck changes a fight like this in mid-fight?
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They're going to not go to Fox Sports 1, and they're going to miss this.
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They go to take a piss, they come back, or they're talking like I was.
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If you don't have a young Jamie living with you, you're screwed.
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But dude, these guys, like, Ito Portal, that guy.
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If movement got extreme, it would be what these guys are doing to music.
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This is super crazy, like, the ultimate of that movement shit that you could possibly do.
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Oh my god, and now she's firing these and she gets cracked with an elbow!
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I guess you're not allowed to kick there in the titty.
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You gotta say the tits can't be kicking me there, man.
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If a girl kicked another girl right in the ground really hard, would they show the replay?
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Have you ever seen a girl attack a set of titties like that?
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I think she broke her rib with that one shot earlier.
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Or somewhere in that fight she might have broke her rib.
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You know when she turned her back, she went relentless, spinning his elbow?
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This is the day where people online go, hey, you fucks, occasionally watch the fight.
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No, let me see this fucking Spartan kick to the tit.
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Well, she got hurt with a bad shot to the body earlier in that round.
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I think she was really, really hurt to take it like that.
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That is the first time I've ever seen someone run at someone who's hurt and open with a knee to the thigh.
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That girl has got a complete Muay Thai game, man.
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Like, she's thinking in all these different angles.
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They just gave Gustafson some bullshit, didn't they?
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Look, he went five hard rounds of Jon Jones, five hard rounds of DC. He's number three in the world for sure.
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Everybody who Rumble hits like that goes night-night.
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But did you see that they played it over and over?
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I've looked at it and thought that it didn't look like a headbutt.
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Then I've looked at it and I said the punch landed first for sure.
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I think if they fight ten times, you're getting a different result each time.
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Maybe there's a good breakdown of it in slow-mo, but it was hard to see if the right hand landed first or the head butt landed first.
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I thought it was head butt, but the more we played it, I almost started siding with you.
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I got so high once, I watched the Bigfoot footage, I thought it was real.
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I was like, maybe I've been making fun of this all the time.
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Maybe I've been making fun of this and it is real.
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CM Punk, if he fails every water test ever created.
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He's handsome, but I'm saying his body is like a guy who works out a lot.
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No, no, no, it was face and then she pulled her boob popped out of the bra.
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But there was another one to the stomach that was before that that she buckled.
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There was another shot to the stomach before that that made her buckle.
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So there was more than one shot to the stomach that had Valerie in trouble.
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She ended with a spinning backlist off the cage.
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You put her in a movie and it would look unrealistic.
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Knee to the butt, and then she threw a right and a left elbow, and then a spinning back just to close it.
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What the fuck do you think was going to happen?
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That Fedor-Maldonado fight, get the fuck out of my face.
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Maldonado caught him with a swift left hook and he was on Queer Street.
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Belladonna definitely should have won that fight.
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I was kidding with the Belladonna, but Maldonado's a good boxer, man.
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He caught him with that right hand, caught him with a nice short right hand, and beat him up on the ground.
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And then he got up at one point in time and Fabio hit him with a bomb and had his legs wobbling and he did the chicken dance across the octagon and he still lost the decision.
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I mean, but the second two rounds, he didn't do a lot.
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If that's in the U.S., that fight stops, I think.
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Well, you say that, but then there's like Frankie Edgar Grey Maynard.
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Well, not if Mazzagatti's the ref or who the fuck.
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Yeah, because lines could be cool with a white man like that.
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He just jumped through the air and he's going to collide with a chimp, right?
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No, I think they're trying to stake their territory for a hot gorilla.
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He picked the wrong primate to have a war with.
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Like, the idea of an 800-pound human is terrifying, but an 800-pound gorilla?
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I think it was like 500. No, I thought it was 600. I thought it was 630. That was the issue, right?
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Like, one of them said 800, one of them said 500. There are a couple big ones, I think, that are like that big.
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As if you get to a certain age and dragons no longer become fun.
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It's one of the few shows that I've seen every one of them.
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But if you go to another one, like if you go to Wikipedia, I remember it was way bigger.
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No, it just said 425. This is what I want you to Google, please.
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Because there's a Mighty Mouse Johnson and there's a Brock Lesnar.
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I'll tell you what, I'd rather fuck with that gorilla than a crocodile.
00:32:12.000
Yeah, dude, I am so not into fucking crocodiles.
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Well, we were talking about that thing before the show, that two-year-old kid that got sucked into the water in Orlando.
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Look, if you're not around those goddamn monsters, you don't know.
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Hey, Disney, let's go ahead and put up some crocodile signs.
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Well, they had signs that said, don't know swimming, but they didn't have signs that said, beware of alligators.
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By the way, in one of my more retarded moments on the show, we were trying to figure out how a crocodile is not the biggest lizard when they're so much bigger than Komodo dragons.
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Not nearly as big as a crocodile, but they call the biggest lizard.
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I definitely did when we were doing that podcast.
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I wouldn't even think that, well, a lizard's definitely a reptile, but a crocodile is not a lizard.
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But it's like one of those things like monkeys, like saying monkeys or chimps.
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You know, they're obviously the same kind of thing, you know, but they're a different classification.
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So you have baboons, gibbons, or a part of the ape.
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The issue is, like, monkey's not a scientific term.
00:33:47.000
There's simians, there's all sorts of different primates, right?
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But the way it's described now, like the way it's been accepted, there was an article about it, maybe you can find it, Jamie, that all apes are monkeys, but not all monkeys are apes.
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All apes are monkeys, not all monkeys are apes.
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This is the way they were going off in this article.
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You could call a chimp or a person, you can call us a monkey, but you can never call one of those spider monkeys.
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Mountain gorilla, orangutan, gibbon, which is smaller.
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The guy was missing fingers and bit his fingers off.
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Yeah, he missed two fingers and ripped his fingers off.
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And when dudes would line up, I swear to God, the baboon would take pictures like this.
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Girl, fucking strong arm that bitch, grab her, and just hold on to her titty.
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And by the way, those things are strong as shit.
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The males will kind of go, you're being dominant right now.
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I'm going to have to sink my teeth into your face.
00:35:52.000
You look that thing in the eye, he's gonna rip your dick off.
00:36:18.000
If you can bring that to the screen, does everybody at home get to see this?
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Have fun when that thing is sinking its fucking canines in here.
00:36:30.000
I had some watered down, fucking, he was on meth or something real skinny.
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I'll take a bite from a German Shepherd over that fucking thing.
00:36:39.000
Dude, they're some of the most ferocious primates.
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That's why they show you bitches what time it is.
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Would you rather fuck with that thing or a chimpanzee?
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Chimps will free you of your face and your genitals.
00:37:22.000
I think I could come over with this fucking thing.
00:37:25.000
If you're on a monkey's back, do you think you could choke a monkey out if you had his back?
00:37:58.000
Do you think that's where the origins of the werewolf came from?
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It'd have to be fucking huge, though, in order for someone to think it was that big.
00:38:09.000
The biggest baboon, you get baboons that are 115, I think.
00:38:13.000
Jamie, what's the biggest baboon we've ever seen?
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I'm going to go ahead and say there's a big boy out there about 180 pounds.
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He is friends with my friends who own Joe Beef, which is one of the best restaurants on the planet Earth.
00:38:55.000
He fought in Montreal when we were there and then came to the restaurant afterwards.
00:39:14.000
If you wanted to ask for someone to represent MMA to someone who thinks that MMA fighters are all thugs and assholes, this young man is so polite and well-spoken and smart and just such a good guy and a really good fighter, too.
00:39:31.000
I got a chance to hang out with Paul Felder a little bit.
00:39:45.000
I said to him, I go, he looks like he's made, like his bones are made of metal.
00:39:51.000
It says it's one of the heaviest, and at most weighs about 99 pounds.
00:39:58.000
A 99-pound male baboon ain't hearing a peep out of you, and good luck keeping that mouth and that non-neck away from your face.
00:40:09.000
Well, you definitely don't want any of that, because believe me, I had a pit bull that was 90 pounds, and he was a giant problem.
00:40:16.000
This dog, can you ever tell me a time that he wanted to get at this dog?
00:40:19.000
So he bent the bars on my house, the wrought iron bars.
00:40:22.000
I had to get a bar welded across the perimeter of my fence.
00:40:26.000
Because he realized that if he slams his fucking fire hydrant head, in between the bars, he can get them like that wide.
00:40:39.000
So once they get their head through, it's like...
00:40:56.000
I had to have a bar installed all around the perimeter of my yard.
00:41:13.000
He looks over the dog, looks over the bar like, what the fuck?
00:41:18.000
He would just hunt lizards all goddamn day on the mountainside.
00:41:26.000
But what they did is they engineered a super dog.
00:41:35.000
Were you like getting creatine all the time in the show?
00:41:36.000
No, I didn't have to do anything with him, man.
00:41:40.000
Those dogs are different than any other dog you're going to run into.
00:41:53.000
And the game-bred dogs, you know, animals fight out of fear or dominance.
00:41:56.000
Game-bred dogs fight because they literally enjoy it.
00:41:59.000
They're covered in blood, ripping each other apart, and they're wagging their tails, man.
00:42:05.000
I don't want one now that I have a kid, but we'll figure it out.
00:42:21.000
I called her Squeaky Fromm because she had been...
00:42:23.000
There's an L.A. shelter that does not kill dogs.
00:42:27.000
And so Brian told me, dude, you've got to get this dog.
00:42:54.000
And she's literally chewed most of her bottom teeth out because she was trying to get out of this cage that they had her in.
00:43:00.000
She didn't have any of her little teeth at the bottom of her mouth.
00:43:14.000
She was so kind to people, but she killed two dogs.
00:43:21.000
And you never hear about a female killing a male dog.
00:43:29.000
I fucked up today and I went to one of those puppy mills.
00:43:39.000
You know, and just like maybe like 20 yards away from the puppy mill, they had a protest sign and a table set up to not buy puppies from puppy mills.
00:44:10.000
It's like one type of food that you can guarantee to always find at the mall.
00:44:13.000
Pretzels, Panda Express, Cinnabon, Mrs. Fields.
00:44:30.000
Um, but people might not be into it, but the smell is super powerful.
00:45:22.000
I mean, you had Alan Belcher almost twisting Paharis.
00:46:12.000
Who criticizes the Game of Death or Thrones, whatever it is.
00:46:17.000
Sir, you fucking shoot archery nine days a week, you would love the purge.
00:46:48.000
But there's going to be some long periods where they're setting up some chaos.
00:46:52.000
When they went through the Red Wedding, they set everything up.
00:47:04.000
I like that the girl who has no name, she's becoming a savior.
00:47:12.000
A little upset at how quickly she heals up from getting stabbed, though.
00:47:19.000
That came out after my surgery, and I'm thinking, bullshit.
00:47:22.000
Listen, All I'm asking is just try a little magic.
00:47:26.000
How about the actress had some fucking magic dust that she had laying around?
00:47:46.000
I don't want to hear a goddamn word you're saying.
00:47:55.000
Here's a good example of why spoiler alerts fucking suck.
00:48:08.000
I tried not to tell you about it because I saw it and loved it.
00:48:11.000
Dude, John Goodman is one of the best actors ever.
00:48:24.000
Dude, when he plays crazy, he plays crazy at a level where I go, this motherfucker knows what that means.
00:48:51.000
I'm telling you, he gets to this crazy place, this edge of reality that you go, wow.
00:48:57.000
He seems so crazy that you're like, man, you have to really be crazy to act this crazy.
00:49:07.000
He plays like bad guys, but I don't think he has a bad thought in his head.
00:49:14.000
We should all hope that John Goodman does very well in life and never fails and never gets to the point where he's in a position where he's got nothing to lose and he decides he wants to kill you.
00:49:27.000
Because there's a thing that that guy knows about and he puts it in these characters.
00:49:34.000
He's got a spree shooter just dying to get out.
00:49:48.000
I wasn't that thrilled about the ending, though.
00:50:04.000
Dude, I just saw Prometheus for the first time.
00:50:22.000
Yeah, but Aliens is one of the best movies of all time.
00:50:30.000
It was so good that if you think of this one as being the prologue to Aliens...
00:50:54.000
But still, anytime you have those aliens, those are some of the scariest monsters the world's ever known.
00:51:00.000
Because when you think about bugs, man, you think about like a wasp, like there was a fucking yellow jacket by my pool the other day.
00:51:32.000
It's called the tarantula hawk because they kill and eat tarantulas.
00:51:35.000
If you get stung, it's the most painful sting in the animal kingdom.
00:52:09.000
Dude, I killed a tarantula in my yard once accidentally.
00:52:13.000
I got out of my house once at night time, and I was walking towards my car, and I heard a crunch.
00:52:18.000
And I looked down, and I had a tarantula the size of a fucking blue crab under my foot.
00:52:30.000
It was a huge tarantula, and I'm barely exaggerating.
00:52:43.000
Some guy died from getting stung from a Pepsi wasp.
00:53:10.000
Six of them landed on his face, melted his old face, his face, and he died.
00:53:25.000
The Asian Hornet is nearly two inches long with a three inch wingspan.
00:53:29.000
Slightly smaller than the European Hornet, but much more aggressive.
00:53:39.000
A handful can destroy a hive of 30,000 bees in a couple hours.
00:53:53.000
Have you ever seen the video of them going through a bee colony and chopping off all their heads?
00:54:01.000
They scare off intruders by sending a lone worker hornet to warn them.
00:54:04.000
If that fails, the workers attack en masse, which is French for As a fucking group.
00:54:11.000
Do you know how bees figured out how to kill them when one of those workers gets into their nest?
00:54:16.000
What bees will do, because now they know what's going to happen, they cover them and they overheat them.
00:54:26.000
Until they heat this little fucker, they cook him.
00:54:28.000
Look at that poor person right there who got stung.
00:54:32.000
They realize that that is the only way for them to stop the assault.
00:54:38.000
Like somehow or another they got that information that one of these fuckers comes in here.
00:54:50.000
Do you think they figured that out because they barely paid attention to these fights?
00:54:55.000
Do you think they figured that out because they just know that that's their natural enemy and they just kill one when they see them and if there's not a bunch of them they just do what they have to do to try to kill it?
00:55:04.000
Yeah, do you think they know that if they don't kill it more are coming?
00:55:12.000
So when you kill crocodiles, if they want to clear an area of crocodiles, if you, this is really weird, if you kill a crocodile and you kill every crocodile that comes in that area, after a while crocodiles will avoid that area.
00:55:26.000
They'll pass that information down to their brethren.
00:55:30.000
Well, there's something going on genetically, probably.
00:55:33.000
Elephants will remember watering holes and droughts that they were exposed to as babies 60 years ago.
00:55:41.000
So they'll lead the entire herd to a watering hole some 20 miles away.
00:55:48.000
Did you guys hear they're saying octopus are the smartest animal now on Earth?
00:55:59.000
No, they're saying they're smarter than Dolphins.
00:56:05.000
Well, I definitely saw that there was this thing.
00:56:09.000
I didn't see that, but I did see a thing about how powerful they are and how unusual they are, and that they're almost alien.
00:56:17.000
They have more chromosomes than any other animal that we've ever observed.
00:56:21.000
And they can read the attitude of a person, like what they're trying to do to them, I heard.
00:56:38.000
Speaking of octopus, let him strangle this human.
00:56:50.000
Those are the biggest ears I've ever seen in my life.
00:57:06.000
They went through my stomach, opened up my stomach, pulled my guts to the side, worked on my...
00:57:15.000
Well, when they sewed me up a week later, it started swelling, man.
00:57:25.000
So I went into the doctor, and I'm like, something's wrong.
00:57:30.000
The scar healed, but under it, it was massive swelling, right?
00:58:02.000
Dude, a lot of people are texting me, dude, be careful about those oxys.
00:58:41.000
If you've been drinking every day since you're a kid, yeah.
00:58:45.000
Yeah, you added every day and it made it sound better.
00:58:52.000
Yeah, no, it's definitely, for some people, it's obviously like a biological thing.
00:58:57.000
Dude, when you can't sleep at night because you can't get comfortable, because you had back surgery, it sucks.
00:59:09.000
Joey came by, dropped me off a bag, and it doesn't kill the pain.
00:59:20.000
But them stars of death, holy shit, what happens is the pain's still there, but you're so stoned that you don't give a shit.
00:59:34.000
Then I start thinking what the fuck am I complaining about?
00:59:37.000
There's refugees that are sleeping on cement and asphalt and fucking Ecuador.
00:59:43.000
Yeah, I'm like all of a sudden right here Doesn't weed make you feel like really thankful?
01:00:03.000
There are two things that make me feel thankful.
01:00:09.000
When I get into a warm bed and I know that nobody's going to be knocking on my door to take me for a walk because of my political point of view, I feel lucky that I get to sleep and then...
01:00:20.000
This is what happens when you grow up with like a super conservative family.
01:00:28.000
We're going to put Fox News on right by your bed.
01:00:34.000
No, but just in history, governments have always done what they wanted to their people.
01:00:43.000
I know, and then when I feed my kids, I know it sounds weird, but I have enough food.
01:00:49.000
He used to stay up, because remember how TVs, at one point in time, they would just, the TV would stop, there were no more shows.
01:00:56.000
It would just end, and they would play the fucking Star Spangled Banner.
01:01:14.000
He said he got most of his real damage from fighting in K-1.
01:01:19.000
Yeah, I mean, he fought a lot of fights in K-1, and he fought them really close together, too.
01:01:30.000
I remember when Gary Goodrich fought the guy who was the Krav Maga instructor for the Israeli Special Forces, and he was this big stud with Blue eyes.
01:01:43.000
Anybody says about fucking pot ruining your memory.
01:01:48.000
How is Brock Lesnar going to come back and fight Mark Hunt?
01:01:52.000
I almost feel, I really do almost feel like UFC 200 is too insane.
01:02:32.000
He's exempt from the four months in advance rule, which means you have to be tested up until four months in advance.
01:02:39.000
This deal came together so quickly that there's just no way they could have that because they weren't even talking to him four months ago.
01:02:48.000
They weren't talking to him for doing this fight four months ago.
01:02:51.000
You think Brock literally went from zero training- I'm not saying that.
01:02:54.000
From zero training, didn't think he was going to fight at all, to four weeks before being like, I'll take it.
01:02:58.000
I'm saying that this deal, like him getting signed to fight, did not happen until recently.
01:03:06.000
They were trying to make UFC 200 crazier after Conor and Nate fell off.
01:03:14.000
I can't talk about it because I know too much of the inside stuff of what they had to do to make it work out.
01:03:27.000
Because he's still wrestling for the WWE. This is a crazy deal.
01:03:47.000
But if you're going to make exceptions for him, you've got to do it for other guys.
01:03:54.000
The argument against it is you've got to say, listen, if you want to make this legitimate, you should have no question whatsoever that your athletes are clean and compliant.
01:04:07.000
Like, if you're a promoter, and there's no way you can test a guy from four months ago, but you say, listen, we can test him right now.
01:04:16.000
Okay, if he's on steroids right now, we're fucked, and we're done, and his deal's over, right?
01:04:20.000
But if he's clean, he says he's clean, let's fucking do it.
01:04:24.000
For entertainment and pay-per-view numbers, it makes 100%.
01:04:27.000
But if you're going to say, hey Connor, we don't make exceptions for anyone.
01:04:36.000
No, because you're making an exception to what happened in the past before the deal.
01:04:42.000
You're not making an exception as far as what you have to do from here on out in terms of promotion and in terms of what's agreed upon by the promoter and the athlete.
01:04:56.000
I have to give them a four month advance and they have to test me.
01:04:59.000
Or you're a big enough star where they use their exemption.
01:05:06.000
If you don't know that you're going to fight until right before you're going to fight.
01:05:19.000
If someone came along and maybe a year and a half from now you're fucking still keto'd up and you and Tony Jeffries are hitting the pads every day and you're feeling frisky.
01:05:27.000
When you're rolling with Hen and Burrell, or Hen and Gracie?
01:05:35.000
If you did that, and you said, fuck it, man, I want to come back.
01:05:38.000
If the fighter and the kid blows up, and you're getting 20 million downloads a month, and everything is happy and fascinating, and you just go, I need something else.
01:05:48.000
And then Dana White calls you up, and he's smoking a cigar on the phone.
01:06:05.000
I'm talking you're batshit crazy if you think Brock didn't know he was gonna fight for us.
01:06:11.000
And also, come from a WWE... Where guys are notoriously known for taking steroids.
01:06:18.000
Well, it's definitely not ideal when you're trying to promote this sport as being absolutely tested, right?
01:06:27.000
Because you have this little weird gray area that you introduced.
01:06:31.000
But as a fan, it's criminal to not make this fight.
01:06:46.000
I'm just saying if you make certain exceptions, then it's a weird gray area.
01:07:11.000
I'm going to go Robert Downey Jr. and spray paint my face.
01:07:16.000
You just get a computer to make images of Kimbo and you get some dudes who are really good at doing Kimbo.
01:07:56.000
Let me just say, let's just stop all that nonsense and let's just say Michael Jai White is a cool motherfucker.
01:08:02.000
I'm a big fan of him as a person and as an actor.
01:08:07.000
To say he can play Kimball, I think there's some other guys who can do it.
01:08:20.000
Michael Jai White came to Legends and he threw a hopping sidekick at the back.
01:08:24.000
Granted, his bag, the chain would break all the time.
01:08:28.000
No, this one, I don't even think it was a turning sidekick, dude.
01:08:34.000
Either way, whatever the kick it was, he's got perfect technique.
01:08:54.000
If you see him in a bar, you buy him a drink, and you thank him for his work.
01:08:59.000
No, I thank him for Spawn, and then it stops there.
01:09:04.000
Do you think that you, at 170 pounds of supple glory...
01:09:10.000
Do you think that you can kick as hard as Schaub can, even though Schaub doesn't kick?
01:09:24.000
Yesterday, yesterday, I said to Brendan Schaub, and I was kind of...
01:09:29.000
We came out, we did this real fun press thing, and he grabbed me around my torso, and I said, oh, my back, my back, please, and I tapped immediately.
01:09:44.000
And I said, and I was half serious, maybe even 70% serious.
01:09:51.000
We're in the middle of the street on the Abbot Kenny, by the way.
01:09:57.000
I said, if I didn't want you to, you're not getting me in a body lock.
01:10:06.000
Hey, he put his phone and wallet on top of his car.
01:10:46.000
And then I began to immediately squeal like a pig.
01:10:50.000
And then I go, all right, bro, I'll meet you at the lunch place.
01:10:52.000
He drives off, leaves his phone and wall on top of his car, and he ran over his iPhone.
01:10:59.000
As an objective person, this is why this is so disturbing to me.
01:11:02.000
I know what I can do to you, and then I know what he can do to me.
01:11:09.000
I've gotten a hold of you before and you feel relatively helpless.
01:11:24.000
And then he goes to Apple and they charge him $1,000 for a new phone.
01:11:38.000
How could you really think that you could grapple with him?
01:11:47.000
I'm going to stick to my guns, and I'm going to say, if I get round two, he's going to have more problems.
01:11:50.000
Do you remember that time when you tried to pull my bow back?
01:11:54.000
You know that bow that I shoot 100 arrows a day?
01:11:58.000
There was a brick wall that God put in front of the strings.
01:12:11.000
There's a strangeness to this humor because I know part of it is humor.
01:12:15.000
But the strangeness is there's a whisper of truth.
01:12:19.000
I am 100% convinced that Shab is too big and too strong for me to grapple with him.
01:12:34.000
See, if me and Shab are rolling, I'm thinking, how long can I survive?
01:12:37.000
And whether or not I could, is it possible to get him so tired and to survive long enough that I can catch him?
01:12:48.000
And by the way, I like to stick my finger in the cage and poke the bear.
01:12:52.000
But the weird thing is, like, I don't think you're totally aware...
01:13:06.000
I'm very aware of how badly I could get beat up, and I felt it.
01:13:09.000
I've been put in bad positions by him, by other guys, by boxing, all that.
01:13:20.000
That's exactly what Ryan Parsons, who trained him forever, said.
01:13:23.000
He said he would have to do deep tissue one, like rub him down after a fight.
01:13:36.000
Or fucking Hector Lombard, the guy he just fought.
01:13:40.000
I actually think Dan Henderson had a title shot.
01:13:58.000
And then I text you, I went, is that for reals you guys?
01:14:02.000
What could be a better, more exciting fight to see than Bisping Hendo 2?
01:14:09.000
Then you got Weidman, Rockhold 2. I feel like Jaco Rey, as a fan, is disappointing me that he doesn't just step aside and let this fight happen.
01:14:16.000
As a goddamn human being, get the fuck out the way!
01:14:27.000
How about we won't even drug test you for like a month?
01:14:54.000
And then Rockhold and Weidman fight for the belt.
01:15:09.000
Yeah, he's got a morning show, I believe, a sports show.
01:15:13.000
Really good guy, really nice guy, and really fucking tough guy.
01:15:20.000
This motherfucker's had like 270 hockey fights.
01:15:26.000
It was in the NHL. What the fuck are you talking about?
01:15:32.000
Our producer, Evan the Cub, is balls deep in hockey and he said he never played in NHL, yeah.
01:15:45.000
This guy's the worst tattoo in the UFC. How many fights has he won in the UFC so far, Jamie?
01:15:50.000
He got knocked out his first one, then won his last one.
01:15:52.000
He took his first fight on short notice and got stopped by someone.
01:16:00.000
Yeah, he's one and one in the O.C. But then he beat James Tohuna.
01:16:23.000
I don't like what he's doing with his right hand.
01:16:28.000
That stained glass tattoo I've never seen before.
01:16:46.000
That is an odd choice of tattoos, but that's coming from a guy who has odd tattoos.
01:17:20.000
You can knock him out against the cage right now.
01:17:37.000
He's just one of those Irish fucks that just doesn't want to quiff.
01:17:39.000
You don't have stained glass tattoos that are tough as fuck.
01:17:43.000
You don't get that stuff, because you know you're going to get clowned on.
01:17:56.000
Take a look at the circumference of his thighs, sir.
01:18:07.000
No, let's call him his real name or he'll get mad.
01:18:18.000
Tell you right now, if this fight was on ice, your boy's fucked.
01:18:21.000
Well, that is an interesting thing, man, about hockey players, man.
01:18:28.000
He's ending his combinations with that left hand.
01:18:33.000
Yeah, he's throwing punches and bunches and it's landing.
01:18:36.000
It's also his accuracy is really good while Bossy's moving.
01:18:52.000
You might want to call up Aaron Delevadova, Guru Tattoo, San Diego.
01:19:08.000
Like, if you are a serious albino, you could have some beautiful colors.
01:19:17.000
Black dudes, they can put tattoos everywhere, though.
01:19:35.000
You know, it's interesting that the black eye covered in tattoos is a fairly new thing culturally in this country, right?
01:19:48.000
Like if you looked at black guys from like Muhammad Ali's era or Joe Frazier's era.
01:19:56.000
Well, tattoos were subversive up until really the 90s.
01:20:01.000
Yeah, body art was always considered subversive and weird.
01:20:13.000
You had to be on the outskirts of society to have a tattoo.
01:20:18.000
I remember I told my dad I got an earring as a joke when I was 16 and my father hung the phone up.
01:20:29.000
That word we were talking about before the show.
01:20:35.000
It's used sometimes with people just arguing with each other.
01:20:57.000
A lot of white people get the red ink these days.
01:21:29.000
I used to train with some professional hockey players.
01:21:33.000
They also party harder than any professional athlete I know.
01:21:37.000
This weak ass little structure in the middle of your face.
01:21:41.000
All someone has to do is smash it and you're like down to like 60% strength.
01:21:47.000
Do you think our noses are meant to be smashed, though?
01:22:04.000
You can punch a house cat right in the face and it'll kill you in your sleep.
01:22:19.000
When one of these guys shoots for a takedown, you know, it's go time.
01:22:29.000
I'm not trying to see either of these guys grapple.
01:22:31.000
It's interesting when you see a guy come back while he's hurt.
01:22:35.000
Because that's when you find out what kind of condition you're really in.
01:22:38.000
How quickly can you come back while you're hurt?
01:22:41.000
Did you ever see the training Fedor used to do?
01:22:46.000
No, he would fly around in circles like he would punch and then spar or do running and shit.
01:23:00.000
But I don't like the way he approached that fight.
01:23:03.000
This is a guy who went toe-to-toe with Krokop, okay?
01:23:06.000
I don't know what kind of testing they had him under.
01:23:14.000
Okay, it's like Novitski likes to call the smell test.
01:23:27.000
I love how people are like, he's so close to coming to the UFC. I don't give a fuck.
01:23:37.000
Before this fight, I would have argued with you.
01:23:43.000
But it also could be that he hasn't- When was the last time he competed?
01:23:49.000
He fought that chump and beat the fuck out of him like- Right.
01:24:10.000
He took that guy down and punched him until he tapped.
01:24:16.000
So you come to the UFC. Hey, we're going to test you unless you're Brock Lesnar.
01:24:32.000
O'Connell's strong, but he keeps that half guard.
01:24:58.000
Bossy's the one who looks like he should be hopping out of a cage.
01:25:13.000
Bossy's the one with the Hulk Hogan skin, the hot dog skin.
01:25:20.000
That's the tannest, best-looking guys have hot dog skin.
01:25:27.000
Dude, hot dog skin is the best expression ever.
01:25:35.000
There's a few descriptions in my life that have really sunk home.
01:25:50.000
I mean, you say he's losing his fight, but this is a draw.
01:25:53.000
If someone said, hey Shaw, bet on this fight, I got Bossy.
01:25:58.000
You fucking never know with a dude like O'Connell.
01:26:06.000
One 30-second knockout, one 59-second knockout.
01:26:11.000
I mean, his head snapped back, his eyes rolled back, he bounced off the ground, and he still got back up.
01:26:26.000
It just went to the 100% to control the position.
01:26:28.000
I wish they would stand up and blast each other in the face.
01:26:52.000
Dude, you got that fucking Cowherd guy wearing one.
01:27:10.000
Yeah, and you watch that show religiously, right?
01:27:20.000
I can't believe you posted a picture on that shirt.
01:27:22.000
Who's that other guy that's like a really famous guy?
01:27:33.000
Well, I was doing like a tour for the UFC. He seemed like a nice guy, too, but he definitely didn't seem like he knows a lot.
01:27:46.000
A lot of them bring on UFC because they realize it gets ratings, but they don't know about the sport.
01:27:50.000
But he was asking me questions like, who's the most legendary MMA fighter of all time?
01:27:59.000
Or who's the most important, one of those things?
01:28:03.000
I said Hoyce Gracie because he was the original.
01:28:05.000
Because he changed everything about MMA. He's the pioneer.
01:28:10.000
Changed everything about martial arts with his victories.
01:28:12.000
Because everybody had to go, wow, what is he doing?
01:28:18.000
Yeah, I mean, obviously it was his whole family and his uncle and his dad.
01:28:25.000
Dude, I had to do a tribute show to Kimbo Slice for Spike.
01:28:33.000
Dude, and they were asking me, like, the, you know, I'm going to get flack for this, but they asked me for the Mount Rushmore, and I said, you can't be up there without Kimbo Slice for what he did on YouTube, stuff like that.
01:28:44.000
Dude, I started crying so bad as fucking, I don't know what they're going to do with it, but.
01:28:49.000
Well, I wouldn't agree with that as far as a Mount Rushmore, but I would definitely agree with it as far as a guy who is super important for the overall picture of what MMA is and the difference between backyard fighters and MMA fighters.
01:29:02.000
And then a guy like Kimbo, who was a backyard fighter, but then became a legit MMA fighter.
01:29:09.000
You can be somebody in your backyard, and if you have the skills or the personality or something, the magic...
01:29:19.000
Bossy's connecting with some serious right hands.
01:29:47.000
He mixes it up between like a half a jab and a hook.
01:30:04.000
When is Tony Baltimore fighting Habib Nurmagomedov?
01:30:24.000
One of the greatest Nick Diaz quotes of all time.
01:30:32.000
No, quit fucking high-fiving and killing each other.
01:31:02.000
This is like a candidate for fight of the year, am I wrong?
01:31:05.000
It's like Rocky V. Certainly brawl of the year.
01:31:09.000
I don't know, Joe, but from the three wine glasses, yes, you're right.
01:31:21.000
See, these fights like this, I think we should all have a button at home that we can press.
01:31:34.000
Well, they're getting the Fight of the Night bonus for sure.
01:31:37.000
Unless someone stops someone, if this fight ends right now, the way this is going, how the fuck do you pick a winner this goddamn fight?
01:31:58.000
I don't want to hear you say Michael J. White again.
01:32:05.000
You can look at total strikes, obviously, round one and round two.
01:32:11.000
One for O'Connell, one for Bossy, but you can't just calculate all the strikes all together.
01:32:19.000
They should both make an agreement, no wrestling.
01:32:38.000
Every time they see each other, they hug each other for the rest of their lives.
01:33:28.000
All I was saying is what he did, because he brought in the average fan from YouTube to mixed martial arts.
01:33:36.000
My mom knew who Kimbo was from the YouTube videos.
01:33:42.000
I just wouldn't say- How many people are Mount Rushmore?
01:33:54.000
How about we put Ronald motherfucking Reagan in and say it's done.
01:34:22.000
There's definitely four, but I thought there might have been a fifth.
01:34:36.000
You can't be hitting bitches and do commercials.
01:35:02.000
So if you're talking MMA, you got Hoist Gracie.
01:35:10.000
If you got Chocodale, you have to have Rampage.
01:35:15.000
Anderson Silva, GSP. You have to have Randy, you have to have Tito.
01:35:18.000
You have to have GSP. And then you got Anderson Silva.
01:35:30.000
If you have to pick Thor- You want of all time?
01:35:39.000
Come on, we're dropping legends, and then you drop Ninja.
01:35:42.000
Before he tried to fight Sergei Karotanov, he was a bad motherfucker for quite a few years.
01:35:49.000
His brother's definitely far more accomplished.
01:36:11.000
I feel very uncomfortable about him hearing this.
01:36:16.000
Some people did not want a fifth face to be carved in 1935. Susan B. Anthony.
01:36:20.000
Many people thought that Susan B. Anthony should be at a bunch of fucking guys trying to get laid.
01:36:26.000
For real, a bunch of fucking- Susan B. Anthony- Get you on that Mount Rushmore girl.
01:36:34.000
Susan B. Anthony- Susan B. Anthony was- What's wrong with her?
01:36:43.000
Look at this one left, and then this is the one that shuts the lights off.
01:36:55.000
Well, I don't know what is and isn't anymore, man.
01:37:03.000
I don't think we should have a 10-point system.
01:37:05.000
I think it should be like 100 points or something like that.
01:37:09.000
This should be a bunch of points where it's not 10-9 all the time.
01:37:13.000
You can't have 10-9, especially with the grappling and the submission.
01:37:17.000
Especially if I'm going to get off my back and I'm constantly having the guy in danger.
01:37:23.000
By the way, this is not saying we disagree with this decision, right?
01:37:37.000
If there's no knockout, if there's no submissions...
01:37:39.000
Wait, what if you had grappling judges and striking judges?
01:38:06.000
You know, have people that have a full understanding of MMA. Yes.
01:38:10.000
You imagine if B.J. Penn was a judge with his knowledge of MMA? Phenomenal.
01:38:21.000
Think about how many great fighters that don't fight anymore but have a deep knowledge of MMA. Yes.
01:38:37.000
They'd have to fire somebody and they'd have to do.
01:38:54.000
But I was impressed when he fought Ben and almost caught him in an arm bar from the bottom.
01:39:09.000
And if you watch him fight now, he fights much more technical.
01:39:17.000
He caught Ben, and he hit him with a ton of uppercuts.
01:39:20.000
But he's been fighting more technical than he did early in his days.
01:39:31.000
Well, Donald's my boyfriend, so you guys can shut up.
01:39:52.000
It's Donald, when he fights good boxers, struggles.
01:39:59.000
And when you're facing a guy who has good boxing, you're in trouble, man.
01:40:02.000
I hear a guy like him say that, and I gotta assume that he's working on that.
01:40:06.000
I gotta assume if he's telling you that, that he's trying to get better at it.
01:40:10.000
But you always gotta guess where a guy's at based on his previous performances.
01:40:17.000
So if you look at his previous performances, Nate Diaz was a really troublesome fight for him.
01:40:20.000
He had a really hard time, particularly in the first round.
01:40:24.000
But I also think there was some emotional stuff going on in that fight.
01:40:33.000
Like, if you see Cowboy when he was lining up to fight Cote, like the weigh-ins, they were real friendly.
01:40:44.000
So he doesn't want, he doesn't need or want to hate you before you fight.
01:40:46.000
He doesn't need animosity like the Diaz brothers.
01:40:48.000
But I think Nate, Nate really got in his head with that shit and it was like, wow.
01:40:53.000
I mean, this guy was like, Nate's super disrespectful when he's going to fight you, and it's part of the strategy.
01:41:01.000
Yep, and to make you think about it, because it makes your emotions ramp up, it makes you tight.
01:41:13.000
Because I go back and forth, man, because I see Jose Aldo.
01:41:17.000
I love shit-talking when it's done really well.
01:41:21.000
It seems like a lot of people are trying to do that now.
01:41:25.000
Because the guys who do it are making more money.
01:41:40.000
The same as NFL. The NFL mimics, everyone mimics.
01:41:42.000
Are you willing to trade off fan support for cash?
01:41:56.000
Eddie, do you think Conor never turned anybody off?
01:42:01.000
Floyd Mayweather, the biggest shit talker of all time.
01:42:09.000
He had incredible performances and he talked mad shit.
01:42:16.000
Well, he was a good fighter, but he wasn't good enough to be...
01:42:26.000
The shit-talking, but also the performances against Nate Marquardt.
01:42:29.000
You can't say that that was a very impressive performance.
01:42:32.000
I'm just saying, with his shit-talking, it definitely added him.
01:42:39.000
I'm just saying, with his personality and his shit-talking, it elevated him.
01:42:43.000
But I think when a guy like Conor does something that he did, knock out Jose Aldo in 13 seconds.
01:42:57.000
But then it backfires, because when you lose, you get it tenfold.
01:43:10.000
When he loses, people are like, fuck, you're still a bad motherfucker.
01:43:27.000
But do you understand that if George St. Pierre is a beautiful man who's a great fighter, he's got so much going on, he's respectful, he wears nice suits, he would still sell like crazy today.
01:43:37.000
And he would still sell like crazy if he came up today and he wasn't that guy.
01:43:40.000
Honestly, name someone right now who's currently fighting in the UFC, who's quiet and is a superstar.
01:43:57.000
If John Jones can get past Cormier and they get record numbers for UFC 200 and it becomes a gigantic event, John Jones is at the door.
01:44:05.000
He's a superstar because he has great talent, but he's also in the headlines for bad shit.
01:44:12.000
I mean, if you want to talk about what makes someone a famous person, sometimes that's almost as important in this goofy society as someone being a shit-talker.
01:44:28.000
When you hear Uriah Faber talking about an upcoming fight, he never...
01:44:36.000
Come on, Uriah Faber's still right up there in the mix.
01:44:38.000
There's a reason why they had Uriah versus Dominic Cruz, and it wasn't just because Uriah's been doing really well.
01:44:43.000
It was also because they know Uriah can sell some fucking pay-per-views.
01:44:47.000
All I'm saying is name a superstar who doesn't talk shit.
01:45:04.000
Who's been a pay-per-view draw besides Uriah that's not a world champion in the UFC? Anderson Silva don't talk shit.
01:45:11.000
Who's ever been a pay-per-view star that's never been a world champion in the UFC? Is there one?
01:45:19.000
Yeah, but when he fought Nate Diaz, he was a world champ at 170. But it doesn't matter.
01:45:23.000
He was a world champ at 145. He had beaten Jose Aldo.
01:45:26.000
He was one of the best pound-for-pound fighters of all time.
01:45:34.000
He fought a couple of times at 170. Damien DeMaio.
01:45:48.000
So Uriah Faber's the only guy in consideration.
01:45:50.000
If you think about a guy who's a legit star, who's never won a UFC title, who can sell pay-per-views, Uriah might be the only guy.
01:46:01.000
Yeah, but nobody in the UFC that has come along in these years who's not a giant, crazy Fight Pass fan has likely seen those fights.
01:46:14.000
When they show those UFC countdown shows, you see highlights from them and shit, but you don't really see WECs on TV. True.
01:46:22.000
A lot of dudes do talk shit, but it's fighting.
01:46:26.000
Cerrone's a bit of a withdrawal, not a world champ.
01:46:36.000
But, you know, he doesn't get the kind of, like, numbers.
01:46:40.000
He did an interview recently where he was talking about how he'd rather fight Nate than Diaz, or Nate Diaz rather than Conor, because it doesn't matter to him whether it's for the world title or not.
01:46:52.000
Like, whether he's fighting, he doesn't get pay-per-view.
01:46:57.000
He wants to fight a guy who he wants to fight, and I guess he wants to get back at Nate because he fought Nate before.
01:47:03.000
Nate beat him, and he doesn't feel like he fought his best.
01:47:06.000
That's also why Cowboy's such a badass, because he just wants challenges.
01:47:16.000
Paul Felder looked bigger than him the other day when we were hanging out at the Comedy Store.
01:47:38.000
In England right now, in the UK, he could headline a UK show, right?
01:47:45.000
I thought he was from the UK. No, John Holloway.
01:48:00.000
He's Hawaiian as fuck and he's won nine in a row.
01:48:21.000
If you pay attention to flags, they're confusing because a lot of people don't realize Hawaii has its own flag.
01:48:26.000
Hawaii comes with a flag that looks like a British flag.
01:48:32.000
Because no one in South Dakota comes in with a fucking South Dakota flag.
01:48:42.000
We have taken over Hawaii and decided, you know what?
01:48:46.000
We would like to control you since you're in the middle of the ocean.
01:48:53.000
Live here five hours by plane from fucking Los Angeles.
01:49:00.000
There's a lot of Hawaiians that want Hawaiian independence.
01:49:24.000
I'm probably gonna die there in the sense that when I'm an old man, I'm gonna move there.
01:49:32.000
Everybody that tells me, the people that tell me that they go there and the Hawaiians treat them bad, that the Hawaiians are racist, they're all Yeah, I've never had that issue.
01:49:43.000
They take me in like I'm fucking Lilo and Stitch.
01:49:46.000
I went to, for a wedding, we went to, me and my wife went to a wedding out there.
01:49:51.000
One of her friends got married on the Big Island.
01:49:56.000
There's a Hilo side that BJ is very popular in.
01:50:02.000
And we were on the side that was like rivaling BJ. Oh no.
01:50:06.000
I was watching the UFC on my phone during the wedding.
01:50:14.000
And everybody that lived there was like white people that moved there.
01:50:21.000
Yeah, if you go out at night locally to any of these bars, you're going to get fucked.
01:50:27.000
Well you also don't go to a bar in Studio City.
01:50:41.000
And you've got chipmunks living inside your ears.
01:50:55.000
Let me tell you one thing, because you get a lot of heat online sometimes.
01:51:00.000
Because you talk a lot of shit on the podcast, people understand that this is like elevated conversation.
01:51:10.000
I mean, you're one of those guys, like, everybody you meet, everyone's hugging everybody.
01:51:15.000
Everywhere I go, he's also very compassionate to all people.
01:51:37.000
Dude, and Patrick Cote has good jiu-jitsu, man.
01:51:55.000
He probably has more triangles than anybody in the UFC ever.
01:51:58.000
Well, if you think about it, all the fights in the WEC, one of the things that you and I talked about a lot, Eddie, is that he was a great example of a guy why it's important if you're a good kicker to have a nasty guard.
01:52:10.000
Because he didn't give a fuck if you took him down.
01:52:12.000
So he would throw these nasty-ass head kicks, and if you took him down, oh shit, where'd that triangle come from?
01:52:18.000
Well, and then he talked about when he fought Diaz, he was saying how he was embarrassed because he was so afraid to go to the ground with him.
01:52:29.000
But Diaz's jiu-jitsu is pretty fucking high level.
01:52:43.000
He's one of the few guys that could tap Cowboy.
01:53:11.000
Cowboy's gonna have a speed advantage, but the power scares me.
01:53:14.000
Well, here's the thing where Cowboy shines is with his fucking leg kicks, man.
01:53:19.000
And that's where he started to turn the tide on Nate Diaz.
01:53:39.000
Because when Donald gets comfortable, he stands upright.
01:53:53.000
Three, four years, moved basically to Denver for six months and just trained with Lister Bollinger in wrestling.
01:54:16.000
And wrestling helps your jiu-jitsu so god damn.
01:54:22.000
It's about the base, the stability, the balance, all that shit into your jiu-jitsu.
01:54:29.000
Brendan, when you train with Donald, does he just pick up things very quickly?
01:54:43.000
He just trains all fucking time to jump off boats and cows and shit.
01:54:49.000
Oh my god, Donald Cerrone, you bad motherfucker.
01:54:53.000
I wish I was cage-sized so I could throw my underwear in the fucking ring.
01:54:55.000
He's got the fucking body triangle locked down.
01:55:03.000
By the way, he looks pretty much as big as Kotei, actually.
01:55:10.000
Save him unless you've got something funny to say.
01:55:46.000
I was eating cheese and pickles in the back room.
01:55:50.000
Do you have beef jerky up in this motherfucker?
01:56:10.000
Eddie, inside that shelf, there's some shelves there.
01:56:15.000
Hey, remember he's kicking the fuck out of homeboy from San Diego on the ground?
01:56:41.000
Everything we say becomes some goddamn fake news title story.
01:57:00.000
A lot of the animosity between MMA media and you and I and a lot of other people...
01:57:07.000
It would probably be solved if we were actually talking.
01:57:10.000
Because we would probably have a conversation that wasn't as one-sided as someone writing something shitty about you, you responding in a shitty way, someone writes something to you on Twitter.
01:57:26.000
There's also an issue with writing something, right?
01:57:28.000
Because you write something about someone's opinion and there's a lot of assumptions.
01:57:37.000
We've had arguments before, but we always resolve them because we're both reasonable and we're friends and we talk and we be friendly.
01:57:43.000
But if you just wrote a blog about me and I responded with a blog about you, we know each other forever and I love you, but we'd probably be mad at each other.
01:58:06.000
Joe, with the articles, the thing is, what gets clicks is negativity or headlines.
01:58:24.000
It does as much damage to them as it does to the person they're misrepresenting.
01:58:28.000
So if they write a story about you and they just- Oh my god, those kicks, dude!
01:58:35.000
Oh, and Kote has to come back with one of his own, man.
01:59:04.000
You better respect him for his sidekick and his roundhouse.
01:59:07.000
You know who needs some fucking props who is an awesome analyst?
01:59:20.000
You have to not agree with me and bring up another black guy!
01:59:24.000
Because I have my black guy, you have your black guy!
01:59:29.000
You guys, a little respect for Donald right now.
01:59:33.000
I'm telling you that power scares me with Donald.
01:59:38.000
I like Donald better at 170 because he doesn't have to fucking dry himself out.
02:00:02.000
I mean, Donald, all I'm saying by not get crazy is he would have to beat a bunch of guys before that could happen.
02:00:17.000
It's almost crazy talking about somebody else fighting Robbie when Robbie is about to fight.
02:00:30.000
Because Donald's such a big name, I could see him jump into number three!
02:00:34.000
Look at Patrick Cote trying some fucking Tony Jaa shit.
02:00:56.000
The thing about Cote, though, to fight the way Cote fights...
02:01:32.000
Excuse me, I'll take a head kick for 3,000, please.
02:01:59.000
He does a real good job of catching guys as they come in.
02:02:02.000
Oh, that front kick to the body that he used on Jim Miller.
02:02:05.000
He throws that knee to the body very sparingly.
02:02:19.000
These Canadians are built from different stuff.
02:02:37.000
I just want to say something while everybody leaves.
02:02:46.000
When he's broadcasting during the fight with the kid, when he's doing this show, it's fun, folks.
02:02:52.000
There's a lot of nerds out there that are freaking out.
02:02:56.000
Hey, I'll tell you who defends nerds is Brendan Schaub.
02:03:02.000
If you're a nerd and you're getting picked on, Brendan Schaub's going to punch the guy in the face.
02:03:20.000
But I guarantee you, if you met him in real life, you'd go, oh, he's a good guy.
02:03:26.000
And if you see him on stage with Brian Callen, you're like, yeah, he looks a little nervous up there.
02:03:34.000
These guys are doing the Wilbur Theater in Boston.
02:03:53.000
Well, you know, you were the one who told me to do a podcast.
02:03:59.000
What'd I miss when we're talking about crocodiles?
02:04:12.000
Both of you pour me another drink like a woman.
02:04:22.000
I just want to point out, in my house I do all the cooking, so just...
02:04:49.000
Donald Cerrone switches stances, and it's not because he's injured.
02:04:52.000
It's just because he's got so many variables in his attack.
02:05:02.000
And it's interesting seeing him do that at 70. I think this is a good example of a guy...
02:05:08.000
Look, first of all, let's bring up Patrick Hote fought Tito Ortiz at 205 in his UFC debut.
02:05:16.000
An all-time great light heavyweight in Tito Ortiz.
02:05:21.000
This is an argument for the point of diminishing returns and weight cutting.
02:05:30.000
It's an argument for Donald Cerrone being a bad motherfucker.
02:06:19.000
I don't want you to let you get your ass whooped.
02:06:24.000
I'm saying there are men and there's Donald Cerrone.
02:06:30.000
I don't think anybody's ever beat down Patrick Cote like that.
02:06:34.000
I don't think anybody's ever beat down Patrick Cote like that.
02:06:38.000
He broke his hand versus Alan Belcher, and Alan Belcher caught him in the rear naked.
02:06:44.000
Who the fuck has ever beaten him down like that?
02:07:05.000
But staying in the pocket and not taking any shots.
02:07:23.000
Donald's our friend, so let's fucking toast him.
02:07:30.000
The way you yad there is probably not in your best interest.
02:07:59.000
It sounds like he's watching somebody fucking going, yeah!
02:08:10.000
And then the guy goes, uh, great stuff, Brendan.
02:08:21.000
Bro, you thought that was Johnny Depp and you thought the other guy was Snoop Dogg.
02:08:40.000
Here's the thing about this UFC 200 thing and the Brock Lesnar thing.
02:08:45.000
You know, this is the thing because MMA media loves to write stories about this stuff.
02:08:52.000
When I was telling what was told to me about the UFC, about the leak, I don't not like Ariel Helwani.
02:09:06.000
And I don't give a fuck about these big promos.
02:09:16.000
Look, I work for the UFC. I didn't find out until I was sitting there doing commentary.
02:09:22.000
If I had found out because of Ariel Helwani's story instead of the UFC, I wouldn't have given a fuck.
02:09:32.000
As a guy who's on the inside, why would Brock Lesnar take a guy like Mark Hunt on his first fight?
02:09:46.000
Josh Barnett won the fight, and you'd fucking wrap him in two.
02:09:50.000
Well, Jesus Christ, I would almost like to see Josh Barnett more because of his roots in pro wrestling.
02:09:57.000
Barnett wanted the fight, promoted for the fight.
02:10:06.000
I'd be hard-pressed to pass Josh Barnett's offer.
02:10:09.000
Hunt is going to be like, hey, bitch, I ain't The Undertaker.
02:10:15.000
Josh Barnett is not a fucking easy fight for anybody.
02:10:28.000
Yeah, but Brock Lesnar is a fucking genuine NCAA two-time...
02:10:44.000
And we're gonna give you Mark Hunt, who's peaking.
02:10:56.000
To do this to Patrick Cote, you never see Patrick Cote Turtle.
02:11:00.000
Think about the cool fights at 70. Think about the cool fights at 70 for Donald.
02:11:05.000
I love him at 70. I love it at 70. Look, he didn't even get scratched.
02:11:26.000
I'm going to shave my head tomorrow, I'll tell you that much.
02:11:56.000
You should have a podcast the same way you have a fucking...
02:12:10.000
Well, it's like, uh, what was that, uh, Garen Keillor, sir?
02:12:18.000
Well, there was a radio show that was, like, a really famous radio show.
02:12:28.000
It's one of those things that people listen to when your etiquette system is completely shut down.
02:12:43.000
Well, it's a famous thing, and I don't believe I've ever listened to a whole one, but I know that it's a big deal to some people.
02:12:59.000
Brendan Schaub, Eddie Bravo, and Brian motherfucking Cowan.
02:13:28.000
If Rory gives him space, it's going to be a disaster.
02:13:32.000
If Rory stays in boxing wrestling distance, he's going to win this fight.
02:13:40.000
I don't know if you can do that with Wonderboy.
02:13:42.000
Wonderboy may have figured out distance, and he may have figured out how to keep a guy like that away.
02:13:58.000
They've trained together before at TriStar and Feras helped Wonder Boy out a bunch so they know his tricks.
02:14:05.000
And it's good for the sport because he's a free agent and he can go test the free market waters.
02:14:17.000
But if I had a gun to my head, I would go with...
02:14:24.000
Rory McDonald does have too many tools, but I just think Stephen Thompson, he's just so quick coming in and out.
02:14:34.000
Just with that kind of shit, just this explosiveness, I'm going to go with that just for a goof.
02:14:40.000
Both the analysts picked Wonderboy on UFC Tonight, by the way.
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Well, Matt Brown was in his verse, but in his words, he said that he was overtrained going into that fight, and then he made some mistakes.
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And you might feel like you got overtrained if you fight Matt motherfucking Brown.
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Because Matt Brown will put some pressure on you, and you'll be looking for solutions.
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And if you've never been to that dark place before, you might think, man, someone poisoned my fucking soup.
02:15:28.000
He's just beating that ass and draining you in a way that only a dude who's died and been brought back to life by EMTs can do.
02:15:39.000
Besides Carlos Condit, when he was really young, the only person Rory McDonald's lost to, I believe, is Robbie Lawler.
02:15:51.000
You know who else can bring that kind of darkness?
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Well, yeah, because he died from meth or some shit.
02:16:00.000
You're talking about that touch of death darkness.
02:16:02.000
There's Dada, there's fucking the immortal Matt Brown, and there's Court McGee.
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Court McGee might lose some fights, and he's a very, very tough guy, but he's in a very, very difficult division with a lot of very tough guys.
02:16:13.000
But there's a darkness that Court brings when he starts beating that ass.
02:16:18.000
He beats that ass in a very fucking animalistic, clinical way.
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Like a technical, clinical way where he's seen the edge.
02:16:25.000
Because he has technique from the Grim Reaper, is what you're saying.
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I think I agree with you guys that if you looked at it on paper, Rory is a more difficult challenge because he has more tools and he can knock guys out that are legit strikers like Tarek Safedine.
02:17:01.000
His knockout of Tarek Safedine was big because Safedine's a very, very skillful striker and Safedine ran a clinic on Nate Marquardt to win the Strikeforce welterweight title.
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A clinic of leg kicks and technique and footwork.
02:17:15.000
So for Rory to knock him out the way he did is pretty stunning.
02:17:18.000
It's Rory's interchanges between wrestling and striking that can make a big difference in this fight.
02:17:23.000
Because Rory's fluid in that, whereas Steven Wonderboy Thompson, unless he figures out a way to put Rory on his back early and shake him up the way Boce tried to do, but the danger with that is Rory has a wicked fucking guard.
02:17:36.000
He's fast off of his back, he moves quick, and he tries to set up sweeps and omoplatas.
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Right, and you might not have seen it before, But it is legit as fuck.
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Like, this is like the top of the food chain, Brazilian jiu-jitsu competitors.
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So if Rory McDonald can go to the ground at that high of a level and survive without getting tapped.
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And he had a fight like three weeks later, four weeks later.
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But dude, I'm telling you, man, one of the things that came about of him being on my podcast is people got to really understand you're only seeing him in his game face.
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When he was on this podcast, people got a chance to see him as an actual person.
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And they're like, oh, I've only been seeing you when you're competing.
02:18:47.000
Me and him have had some great nights at nightclubs.
02:18:52.000
This is a perfect example of what we were talking about when we were talking about with Connor.
02:19:16.000
He goes, it's time to separate that mother hen from the goose and dig them down.
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And I had to ride it into my phone to remember the next morning.
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Because there's one girl taking care of all of them.
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The Robbie Lawler fight, he got his nose destroyed.
02:19:52.000
But Roy McDonald, just for the good of the sport, if he wins and tests his free agency, it helps the growth of the sport.
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Wonderboy is extraordinary in his ability to close the distance and land these thunderous shots out of nowhere.
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His combinations are so fluid that they're enough for him to land one or two hard shots in every exchange.
02:20:15.000
And if he does that, if he somehow or another can...
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Tempt Rory into some hypnotic dance and do some high-level shit on him.
02:20:27.000
If he feels super confident in his ability to stuff the takedown because he's been training with Weidman so much.
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I'm looking for this fight, but it made a big difference in his technique.
02:20:39.000
I think Wonderboy's going to win this And his understanding of how to stuff takedowns.
02:20:46.000
It absolutely has something to do with training with Weidman, but it's not saying that he's so silly that he would substitute that and not have a high-level wrestler test him.
02:21:08.000
Just to be controversial, because you know how I am, guys.
02:21:15.000
Wonderboy by knockout, Brian, the kick, knockout.
02:21:17.000
Well, listen, if there's anybody who can knock him out, it's Rory.
02:21:23.000
If people get mad at me being non-committal, it's not because I like both of these gentlemen.
02:21:27.000
It is really honestly because this sport is so fucking crazy.
02:21:34.000
Mike Bisping knocked out Luke Rockhold in the first round.
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I even texted him like, you woke up, my kid was worth it.
02:21:59.000
I wish he hadn't gotten on top of the fence and gone, fuck you.
02:22:10.000
But him winning the fight and winning the world title like that, you can't fault him for that.
02:22:17.000
Talk to him on Monday and he's barely back to Michael Bisping.
02:22:21.000
Bisping, Dan Heston 2, UFC title, they both walk away.
02:22:25.000
It's the best fucking Wizard of Oz story of all time.
02:22:35.000
Can Rory threaten him enough with takedowns to get him off of his game of striking?
02:22:40.000
I don't like how close Wonderboy's coming to him.
02:22:43.000
Or does Rory decide that all that training with Raymond Daniels has made him comfortable enough with a legit high-level karate striker that he thinks he can control the distance?
02:22:55.000
Well, Daniels fights sideways too, which is one of the interesting things because...
02:22:59.000
Thompson is one of the few guys that can pull off that stance.
02:23:20.000
He moves like a He's a high-level kid that's got a lot of potential.
02:23:25.000
But if you can pull that stance off and control with that front leg like a jab, there's a lot of guys that aren't ready for that.
02:23:31.000
God, that fucking left leg is wound up for a minute.
02:23:34.000
See, when Baltolini fought Raymond Daniels, what did he do?
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He trains a TriStar, and TriStar is heavy, deep, into leg rocks.
02:24:06.000
Fross's hobby apparently is not down with the ketogenic diet.
02:24:10.000
I would love to talk to him about that because I'm an idiot.
02:24:16.000
Hey, Fross, don't talk me out of my fucking diet.
02:24:34.000
He can kick, and also it keeps him at a distance where he can head kick Thompson, but Thompson has to move forward to counter with that punch.
02:24:41.000
So if he can get that head kick off as quick as he just did, it gives Wonderboy something to think about.
02:24:46.000
Because all of a sudden, Hold on a second, dude.
02:24:48.000
Because Wonderboy is always used to fighting on the outside.
02:24:51.000
So if Rory can be the guy on the outside because he threatens with that head kick, it changes the whole dynamic.
02:24:55.000
Because Wonderboy has to come in, you're thinking?
02:25:03.000
Rory also has the best jab at 170 in the world.
02:25:06.000
He looks like he's mirroring his exact style, though.
02:25:11.000
If he can threaten more with the head kick, that's really interesting.
02:25:29.000
He's mirroring him in terms of he's standing much more sideways than he usually does, too.
02:25:34.000
Well, he's done a lot of sparring with Daniels.
02:25:35.000
And he understands how to negate that front leg kick.
02:25:38.000
See, that front leg kick is way more effective if you're slightly square.
02:25:43.000
Because you fight like a tie fighter, you expose that front.
02:25:46.000
And tie fighters, they throw a lot of teeps, but they don't necessarily throw the same kind of sidekicks unless they have some sort of other background as well.
02:25:54.000
Rory's biggest advantage is he's so smart and can put it all together.
02:26:13.000
But training with Raymond Daniels cares you for that.
02:26:22.000
But see, that front leg sidekick style, like Baltolini beat that down.
02:26:42.000
When you hit Rory, even if you hit him with that front leg sidekick, he gets mad.
02:26:57.000
You know what's interesting when you see a kid like Rory, or you see someone like Thompson?
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You know what's interesting about both of these guys is that they're going to get better.
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If they don't get physically injured in this fight to the point where it incapacitates them and stops their training, these guys are going to get better because of this fight, because they're in that prime period.
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What you're looking at right here is some of the best movement and striking in 170 that you're going to find today.
02:27:28.000
And as far as MMA striking, these guys are goddamn as legit as it gets.
02:27:38.000
That's what's fascinating like standing on the outside watching that.
02:27:41.000
I'm watching that I'm going these guys are gonna get better.
02:27:52.000
I mean, how goddamn good are these break dancers slash jiu-jitsu artists with ridiculous karate skills?
02:28:37.000
Listen, I can't believe you don't know who he is.
02:28:39.000
Rip your dick off like a chimpanzee if you don't acknowledge him.
02:28:48.000
I clenched up and said, please, God, let me not have heard that.
02:29:25.000
There's a lot of pro wrestling fans like, Brian is seriously an asshole!
02:29:33.000
Why don't you shut up and let Joe and Brandon talk you like an asshole?
02:29:43.000
Oh, quick little sneaky knee to the body by Thompson.
02:29:49.000
Well, I always feel like Rory brings a queasiness to this fight.
02:29:56.000
Rory's a terrifying individual, but Wonderboy is a fucking whip-smart, super sharp.
02:30:07.000
Wonderboy's going to be fine, even though he's 33. I don't think that affects Rory the same way it affects a regular person.
02:30:30.000
By the way, I was going through my DVR because I was running out of space.
02:30:33.000
And I came across this fight, the Rory McDonald-Robbie Lawler fight, and I had to watch a little bit of it again.
02:30:54.000
He goes, my nose was jamming into my eye socket.
02:30:59.000
He's moving just the right amount away from Wonderboy's punches.
02:31:05.000
He's the first guy to give Wonderboy real problems with his timing.
02:31:11.000
Yeah, because Matt Brown said, I don't give a fuck.
02:31:17.000
Obviously, Wonderboy's gotten better at stuffing takedowns and training with wrestlers.
02:31:33.000
Rory comes up with a new bag of tricks every fight.
02:31:40.000
But if Rory can slide back with it, if he sees the leg come up and he lets his body go with it, it's not as bad.
02:31:53.000
That's the benefits of leaving your leg out there.
02:31:56.000
Eddie, do you remember us talking about this like 10, 15 years ago?
02:32:06.000
There's these guys that can throw these fucking kicks.
02:32:33.000
The more those body shots are going to mean something.
02:32:35.000
Dude, me and Wanderboy have fought on multiple cards because we had the same manager, so that's the way sometimes it lines up.
02:32:41.000
And Wanderboy's dad trains him, and he'd be in the back crying, and I'm like, this guy's about to get his ass whooped.
02:32:50.000
Because whenever I see a guy cry, I'm like, you're fucked, bro.
02:32:56.000
He's just going through it, gets it out of the system, and goes out there and performs.
02:33:03.000
How often do guys quit from leg kicks to the arms?
02:33:07.000
Are there fighters that are just like, fuck that, I'm done.
02:33:15.000
The guy who got armbarred by Jacare, who just fought recently?
02:33:24.000
You know, there's people out there that quit from leg kicks after some fights.
02:33:36.000
Like, if you kick someone here, like right here, it's significantly easier for you to absorb than if you get kicked here.
02:33:44.000
Dude, who's homeboy the Dutch kickboxer in the UFC? Did I make sense with that?
02:33:51.000
It's easier to block a kick here than it is to block a kick here.
02:33:54.000
If you're blocking a kick higher towards your hand, your arm gets real weak.
02:33:59.000
If you get kicked in the middle, like up here, you're probably going to get your arm broken.
02:34:09.000
It's a big difference between catching an elbow and catching a shin, but you still don't want to.
02:34:21.000
See, one of the things about Wonderboy is he throws instep kicks, which is really interesting, because his distance is way better.
02:34:35.000
With leg kicks, you want to use shin bones, but he can throw instep kicks that are super powerful.
02:34:41.000
He doesn't throw those traditional Muay Thai kicks, though.
02:34:46.000
But what I'm saying is there's a difference when a guy is really good with the instep that gives you almost an extra foot of area where you're impacting.
02:34:55.000
Except, like, a lot of the really good Dutch kickboxers like Ernesto Hoost, he would wrap that foot around the back of your head.
02:35:03.000
So he would really tuck you into, like, when you, like, flex your foot, he would tuck you to sleep right in there.
02:35:13.000
He'd punch, he'd jab, punch, and then just doosh!
02:35:15.000
He would throw it over the top of your shoulder.
02:35:30.000
But what I'm saying is Wonderboy offers a lot of weird shit that if you don't prepare for him, which Rory clearly did bringing in Raymond Daniels, he could be a real problem to you because his distance is so much more than you think it should be.
02:35:51.000
He does, but look, Rory's moving very well here, but the thing about Wonderboy is you've got to mind all your P's and Q's.
02:36:00.000
You've got to fucking dot your I's and cross your fingers.
02:36:03.000
Just like Brendan around Michael J. White, you're right.
02:36:13.000
Michael J. Smith slash Q. Michael J. Smith slash Q. Michael J. Smith slash Q. You watch your fucking P's and Q's, bro.
02:36:19.000
Michael J. Q? Hey, buy him a drink and thank him for his work and shut the fuck up.
02:36:32.000
I'm so impressed with the controlling of distance by Rory.
02:36:35.000
The way he uses that high left hand, that guard, look how he does this.
02:36:40.000
He leans forward with his arms straight up in the air on the left side, and that's something he used against Tyrod Woodley.
02:36:56.000
If he swings and gets on top, this would be brilliant.
02:37:25.000
That left hand that Wonderboy just landed moving away.
02:37:49.000
So again, Wonderboy, as we were saying before, he's got to move back more.
02:37:54.000
It's a little bit less natural, the moving back and jumping in, whereas Rory, Rory's just sort of plodding forward, just keeping the distance with that long, straight left hand, and threatening every time they engage.
02:38:52.000
This could be a five-round affair that's very similar to what we're seeing right now.
02:38:57.000
If both guys keep their fitness, they're going to realize there's an imminent threat in any opening, any taking chances.
02:39:04.000
Roy's going to have to grapple to test the fitness of Thompson.
02:39:11.000
That right hand that he's putting in front of his face is very nice.
02:39:34.000
Well, if he starts to feel like Rory's slowing down a little bit, and he can relax, he can do more of this shit, this is his style, man.
02:39:43.000
Brian, you should open up one of those psychic places.
02:39:53.000
I'm telling you, Wonderboy's going to win this fight.
02:39:59.000
I know, but I have an overwhelming feeling that he's going to win.
02:40:13.000
I don't know how you're going to judge this fight.
02:40:15.000
You could say Roy's winning because of Octagon Control.
02:40:23.000
Listen, seriously, this is a fucking awesome fight.
02:40:28.000
This is a super high-level affair between two of the most dangerous guys on the planet Earth.
02:40:33.000
That guy in Rory's corner looks like Rory in 20 years.
02:40:58.000
If you were aesthetically looking at fighters and you had to choose models, he'd be in your top five.
02:41:17.000
Did you ever see The Natural with Robert Redford?
02:41:28.000
His skin was a little loose, but other than that, big bone structure.
02:41:44.000
If I was a feminist writer, I'd be really mad at that movie The Natural.
02:41:48.000
Because some evil woman took away the genius of some very masculine man.
02:42:08.000
Back before black people figured out how to play it.
02:42:33.000
He had forearms that didn't even look like they belonged on a person.
02:43:25.000
When Eddie starts talking baseball, I'm fucking in.
02:43:27.000
Hey man, Wonderboy just landed a slick combination there.
02:43:31.000
I think I started this baseball thing and I apologize.
02:43:52.000
I'm not really trying to do this by nationality.
02:44:00.000
USA. This is the first time ever in my life I've had a chance to acknowledge athletes from other countries as if the countries that we all enjoy watching perform, I'm not a part of this competition.
02:44:17.000
Just like you cheer for Chris Weidman against Jacare.
02:44:26.000
It's just a reason to unite, like for whatever, whether it's bullshit or it's like legit, it's like a whatever, let's have a reason to unite.
02:44:46.000
I have a USA soccer jersey and I wear it proud.
02:44:49.000
Naked, just a hard-on, soccer jersey, soccer jersey for Elton John sunglasses, Daniel Boone raccoon hat, out of a real raccoon that he caught, eaten out of his garbage, killed it with a rock.
02:45:08.000
Sorry, buddy, I'm so into this fight, I can't help it.
02:45:20.000
We're talking about Charlie Sheen and AIDS. I can't.
02:45:23.000
Now I'm watching this thing of beauty, this poetry in motion.
02:45:47.000
We haven't been paying attention enough to say who's winning.
02:46:01.000
Brian, you might want to stay offline for a couple of days after this one.
02:46:19.000
Sometimes it's better to just watch it and breathe.
02:46:50.000
Pretend you're some ridiculous person that we don't know instead of our friend Brian who's saying retarded shit.
02:46:57.000
I like your Brazilian voice, so if you're going to say something about the fight, just give me an accent.
02:47:25.000
I'll be leaving for the Off the Hook Comedy Club in Naples June 22nd to perform June 23rd, 24th, and 25th.
02:47:35.000
You know how many goddamn complaints I get about you chewing into the mic?
02:47:56.000
The difference between Wonderboy and anybody...
02:48:00.000
But between Wonderboy and a lot of guys that you'll spar is that he can hurt you with that front leg sidekick to the body.
02:48:06.000
That front leg sidekick to the body has got a real snap to it.
02:48:11.000
They do it, a lot of times they touch you with the ball of the foot more than they're hitting you with like the side blade or the heel.
02:48:27.000
That right arm across the face and that left arm extended, very interesting.
02:49:00.000
I know you want Rory to win and I love Rory and I don't know them.
02:49:22.000
I'm just saying octagon control and significant strikes, Rory might be winning.
02:49:34.000
Let's stop worrying about the end of the goddamn fight and enjoy the fucking fight, which is playing right in front of our eyes.
02:49:41.000
Stop arguing about who won while it's actually happening, you fuckheads.
02:50:05.000
But again, the judges, when you get pulled to the ground, they're viewing it as Wannaboy got a takedown.
02:50:09.000
Well, Rory is trying to attack him from his back.
02:50:28.000
And these Wonder Boy elbows are pretty fucking hard.
02:50:30.000
The fight's so close, and then when you pull fucking side control...
02:50:33.000
You know, Eddie, you were one of the first guys to say that.
02:50:39.000
You and I were talking and you were saying like when you get a guy who's like a real experienced striker, they can generate some power in like a real close area.
02:50:48.000
Like those guys who could do ground and pound from inside the guard even.
02:50:54.000
Back in the Pride days, you see Vanderlei, he wanted to stay standing but he was rarely in the guard.
02:51:09.000
I think he hit him in the nose, but I think he hit him with a left hand.
02:51:16.000
It's that same nose that he broke in the Robbie Lawler fight.
02:51:21.000
Did I really just say that it's the same nose he broke in the Robbie Lawler fight?
02:51:32.000
Dude, that was some of the funniest shit you've ever said!
02:51:46.000
I was like, oh yeah, he's only got one of them.
02:52:20.000
That same nose that he used to breathe out of when he was five.
02:52:28.000
That's the same nose he breathed out of when he was two.
02:52:36.000
First came out of his mom and smelled the fresh, sanitized air of the hospital room.
02:52:45.000
Well, okay, so Brian, since you were paying attention so closely, much more than any of us, you really do know how to judge a fight.
02:52:53.000
100% without a doubt, Wonderboy, and without a doubt.
02:53:02.000
It definitely looks like Thompson won the fight.
02:53:04.000
You think Rory McDonald might have got the nod because of black helicopters and chemtrails?
02:53:20.000
Were you paying attention enough to really give an honest reading of who won the fight?
02:53:41.000
One, I was super impressed with Roy's that weird defense he's using with that high left hand and that right hand almost across his face like Archie Moore style.
02:53:49.000
And definitely he was really good at controlling the distance.
02:53:51.000
But I think as the rounds went on, you started to see Wonderboy getting a little more comfortable.
02:53:58.000
Ever relaxing into that sniping, jumping back and forth style.
02:54:02.000
And that's when the tide started to change, it looked like to me, where it started to establish that Wonderboy was getting slightly better in each exchange.
02:54:10.000
And that's what we talked about actually before the fight started.
02:54:12.000
I was saying if Wonderboy can land one or more punches in each exchange than Rory can, that's significant and that adds up over time.
02:55:05.000
But this was like a super interesting style fight, right?
02:55:22.000
You have to give Wonderboy the title shot here.
02:55:25.000
For Rory, it's a tough road because now he goes into free agency.
02:55:29.000
Robbie Lawler is the baddest motherfucker on the planet.
02:55:33.000
He'll beat him the same way he beat Johnny Hendricks.
02:55:44.000
They'll do the same thing Tyron Woodley did to Johnny Hendricks.
02:55:46.000
No, but I'm saying that Robbie and Tyron Woodley are fighting.
02:55:50.000
You can't pretend that you know what's going to happen in that fight.
02:55:56.000
What do you think is going to happen in that fight?
02:55:58.000
With Tyron Woodley and Robbie Lawler, you think you know what's going to happen in that fight?
02:56:13.000
I think Robbie Lawler has something that I've never seen in a fighter, and that is in round five, and I'm not exaggerating, he's more pumped, has more energy than he does in round one, and on top of that, there's something indestructible about that guy.
02:56:30.000
And so is Paul Felder, and I leave you with that fucking thought.
02:56:54.000
So this is like exactly what we said before the fight out.
02:56:57.000
You know, what I was saying that if Wonderboy can just get a couple extra punches in each exchange or one every now and again, those are going to accumulate.
02:57:14.000
That Robbie Lawler fight was absolutely brutal.
02:57:21.000
And Wonder Boy for sure gets the next title shot.
02:57:24.000
Watching the Robbie Lawler fight again, I almost forgot.
02:57:29.000
Not really forgot, but I had to be reminded a little bit of how primal that fight was.
02:57:37.000
But the thing is, I like Wonder Boy's chances against Woodley or...
02:57:46.000
He's super dangerous, especially if they take a chance to try to hurt him.
02:57:53.000
If you take a chance, he's going to capitalize on it.
02:57:55.000
He can do that little slide back, counter left hand.
02:58:00.000
And he can fight from southpaw or orthodox, too, man.
02:58:04.000
You know, when he fights from southpaw, a lot of it is those sidekicks, those front leg sidekicks.
02:58:08.000
But goddamn, man, he can do that from the left side, too.
02:58:15.000
He's literally that guy that you always joke about.
02:58:19.000
He goes, if you took a dude who was doing karate from the time he was three...
02:58:24.000
It was like Super Ninja that was like 52-0 and you taught him how to stand up and avoid takedowns.
02:58:30.000
How good would he do against most of these strikers?
02:58:35.000
It's almost like you created this dude with your imagination.
02:58:39.000
One of the conversations we used to have is back in the dark days of the UFC when it was underground on DirecTV only, only on satellite, is the days where we have shows like this, you know, on networks with baseball scores on the bottom, and they're in these big ESPN-type studios.
02:58:56.000
Like, one of these days, that's going to happen, and it's like nothing now.
02:59:06.000
It was a very close fight, but he lost a decision to Wonderboy, who right now is the best in the fucking world.
02:59:18.000
What I'm saying is, he's still a few years younger than Wonder Boy, and I think he learns from this fight and gets even better.
02:59:24.000
But I think this is a goddamn wake-up call to the rest of the division.
02:59:29.000
And his angles and all this shit we're seeing, this creativity, this ability to stay in the pocket and not get hit nearly as much, throw a lot of dangerous shit.
02:59:41.000
All I'm saying is, if you're Rory McDonald, he lost the number one guy, now he lost the number two guy.
02:59:52.000
Dude, when you say free agency, no one's saying that the UFC isn't going to counter the offer and they're going to come to a nice conclusion.
02:59:59.000
I'm saying if you're Rory, just sign with UFC and try fighting for the title again.
03:00:03.000
I think he could absolutely be a world champion.
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Bellator or in the UFC. He could be a world champion in any organization.
03:00:14.000
He has like four or five years before he hits his prime.
03:00:17.000
But what you're looking at with Wonderboy right now is one of the slickest, sneakiest strikers.
03:00:24.000
One of the best guys at moving back and countering.
03:00:28.000
I thought Wanderboy was his toughest style-wise matchup possible.
03:00:42.000
I just think if he got past Rory, that was his biggest test.
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A guy who can grapple, strike, do everything, and he's smart.
03:00:56.000
And if you brawl with Wanderboy Thompson, that doesn't end well.
03:01:03.000
Maybe Robbie catches him the way Jake Allenberger caught him, and he puts him away.
03:01:15.000
What I'm saying is nobody knows what's really going to happen until they get into it.
03:01:19.000
But when I see a guy like Robbie Lawler, I see a guy that's like...
03:01:24.000
Like the physical punishment that he's taken in these chaotic wars with Hendrix and Rory.
03:01:30.000
Unless that catches up with him, you're looking at a goddamn barbarian.
03:01:35.000
When Robbie Lawler goes to war, he goes to war with every atom in his body.
03:01:39.000
That picture has blood on his arm, for God's sake.
03:01:41.000
And you know who's the most dangerous fucking fight for him?
03:01:47.000
I know, but if he ever does, Damien Maia is dangerous to everybody.
03:01:59.000
It seems like there's some decisions that get done rather when one guy beats another guy, and this guy agreed this guy was number three, and this guy agrees this guy's number two, but...
03:02:09.000
You know, you might have a different opinion rather than I do.
03:02:20.000
Because if UFC goes, well, we want Damian to fight.
03:02:22.000
I'm going to get a fight to rank him 4 or 3. We want him to fight for the title next.
03:02:26.000
Well, Damian's an interesting guy because he's older, for sure.
03:02:30.000
And he's also fought for the title in 85. Yeah.
03:02:33.000
And what he's been doing to guys when he gets them on the ground is nothing short of a mauling.
03:02:38.000
They keep tossing these young lions, these starches.
03:02:43.000
In that sense, I'm almost like I'm the enemy of two different types of people here.
03:02:48.000
I'm the enemy of the people that want to respect the rankings, because I sometimes just want to see what happens.
03:02:53.000
I want to see what happens when guys fight certain guys.
03:02:56.000
And it's one of the things that I don't necessarily like about the idea of titles.
03:03:00.000
When I see a guy like Robbie Lawler, I understand that he's the world champion, I respect that, and it's fucking amazing, but really what I care is that Robbie Lawler is Robbie Lawler.
03:03:11.000
And I want to see Robbie Lawler fight other guys that are intriguing.
03:03:31.000
I like Tyron Woodley for his ability to close the distance.
03:03:36.000
Wrestle like a motherfucker and serious knockout power.
03:03:42.000
His striking's going to be trouble against these top guys, I think.
03:03:45.000
There's a lot of fucking high-level guys in the 170 division, and what's interesting to me about Damien Maia is I see what he does to guys like Rick Story, and I see what he does to guys like Neil Magny,
03:04:07.000
Or will we see Tyron Woodley with some ridiculous Nate Marquardt-esque one-punch knockout?
03:04:15.000
But I think that's a super powerful fight, and a guy like Woodley ain't so fun to try to take down either.
03:04:20.000
Because you close the distance on him, he hits hard, he's fast.
03:04:28.000
It looked good in the first round, though, didn't it?
03:04:40.000
If you had a guess, based on your shadowy memory.
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I give the first round to Roy, and then after that, it appeared that he lost the rest of them.
03:04:51.000
Goddamn, I love the way Wonderboy slides in and out of these shots.
03:04:55.000
I love how he stays in the pocket, too, and throws all these angles there, and there he realized he hurt them.
03:05:00.000
Dude, you're talking about a guy who realizes his stand-up potential, but he's worked on his grappling and takedown defense so much.
03:05:06.000
He was so comfortable training out of his gym in South Carolina.
03:05:10.000
Well, let's go to Weidman's camp and get annihilated for months and months and months so I can get better at 170. That's nuts.
03:05:25.000
Most of those father-son relationships are tough to bring someone else into, man.
03:05:32.000
He's an interesting thing because he brings a totally new sort of a style to the top of the heap.
03:05:40.000
There's no one on the top of the heap that mimics that.
03:05:43.000
We've had the wrestlers before, you know, the Matt Hughes.
03:05:47.000
And Johnny Hendricks, like really powerful wrestlers.
03:05:49.000
You know, Matt Hughes would get more submissions and a lot of ground and pound victories.
03:05:53.000
And Johnny Hendricks got a lot of stand-up victories, a lot of stand-up KOs, like that crazy Fitch KO and the Martin Kampman KO. Johnny had some ridiculous one left-hand bomb KOs.
03:06:06.000
But it's real interesting when you see a guy that you haven't seen before, really.
03:06:12.000
And a karate guy like Wonderboy with his crazy undefeated kickboxing record.
03:06:21.000
George St. Pierre told me he's the best striker that he's ever sparred.
03:06:30.000
Because at the time, he was even thinking about MMA. He was just striking.
03:06:34.000
Have you seen Rush Hour where Chris Tucker gets a kick in the face like, alright, which one of y'all did it?
03:06:39.000
I'm telling you, when he sparred with us, I was like, oh, okay, I don't know shit.
03:06:47.000
George St. Pierre, Nate, Shane, Nate Markhart, all of us went in and just got wrecked.
03:06:57.000
He's the best example of someone that knows that other style and implements it in an MMA fight.
03:07:03.000
Because that style has always been a question mark.
03:07:07.000
It's like, how come some of these national karate champion dudes haven't gotten into MMA? Because if they do, those sport karate guys and the sport taekwondo guys, more the sport karate guys in a lot of ways, because some of their matches concentrate more on punches.
03:07:24.000
Punch, you know, one-point karate guys, the point karate where you tag a guy and they stop.
03:07:29.000
They still concentrate more on punches to the face than the Taekwondo guys.
03:07:33.000
But you can get a really good combination of the two of those techniques.
03:07:37.000
And if those guys get into MMA, man, they're so hard to hit.
03:07:41.000
Because those sport karate guys are used to just jumping back and forth and diving on each other and jumping out of the way.
03:07:48.000
I think Wanderboy is going to set the blueprint for some of those guys because he engulfed himself into grappling.
03:07:54.000
Conor McGregor is considered one of those guys, right?
03:07:59.000
When I was really good at Taekwondo, when I was winning state championships, I had a karate match.
03:08:05.000
I took a fight tournament, a point karate tournament, and I fought this dude named Mafia Holloway.
03:08:17.000
I couldn't get a hold of them because I was used to like continuous style kicking.
03:08:22.000
I wasn't used to this dart in, like smash, dart in with a punch to the face.
03:08:27.000
They would dart in on you and then everything would stop and you'd go, oh, okay, I'm way behind on this.
03:08:34.000
I trained for kickboxing or for Taekwondo, and this guy had this totally different thing.
03:08:38.000
And I remember from that one match, which didn't last very long, and I didn't get hurt in it, but I definitely got tagged.
03:08:46.000
He tagged me with a front leg sidekick to the body and a couple other things.
03:08:49.000
But I remember thinking, man, I've got to rethink my whole approach to darting in and out.
03:08:53.000
Because Taekwondo guys don't necessarily do that with the same explosion, the same distance covering.
03:09:00.000
And then I remember thinking, those guys are really hard to catch.
03:09:03.000
And those guys, they get really good at that thing.
03:09:06.000
And you're seeing it with that kid in Bellator.
03:09:14.000
I'd like to see him against tougher competition.
03:09:25.000
Put up his Wikipedia so we can find out what his actual credentials are.
03:09:38.000
That Michael Venom page, I don't want to break from him.
03:09:47.000
Well, he's like way, way above the guys he's fought so far.
03:09:53.000
I understand, but they don't belong in there with him.
03:10:11.000
Because right now he's building his experience and he's getting his style down.
03:10:21.000
It says, Paige describes his discipline as not karate, not taekwondo.
03:10:24.000
It's a hands-down kickboxing style that likens himself to a matador.
03:10:42.000
So maybe he didn't do karate, or maybe he did and evolved his own style or something.
03:10:47.000
Usually they have something like awards or some shit like that.
03:10:57.000
Am I really wrong about his point karate background?
03:11:06.000
I knew he had that too, but I thought he was initially a point karate champion.
03:11:34.000
Sounds like he's just a guy who took a Taekwondo class.
03:11:37.000
It sounds like he took Rex Kwon Do and just fucking...
03:11:39.000
I think he fought sport karate is what they're saying.
03:11:43.000
He hates taekwondo according to that Wikipedia.
03:11:48.000
It said watch Eastbound and Down and Google karateka and then just fucking kickbox on the weekends.
03:12:04.000
He watched Best of the Best and got his black belt.
03:12:09.000
He was working with an association called the Points Fighting League, where it was a Team Points League.
03:12:19.000
Look at this cowboy with no shirt on but the cowboy hat on.
03:12:24.000
How many gay guys are jerking off to this right now?
03:12:58.000
How about you stop selling him out on TV? Nah, that's Cowboy, man.
03:13:03.000
Cowboy and Abbot Kenny mixed together like water and oil.
03:13:27.000
Dude, remember the first fight when that girl kicked the other girl in the titty and she turned around?
03:13:44.000
But as her foot was coming down, the foot caught the bra.
03:13:54.000
But then she did again and kicked her right in the solar place.
03:13:59.000
I still, to this day, I want to pretend that I remember a kick before that kick to the body.
03:14:06.000
I don't know if I'm right or not, but either way.
03:14:17.000
And Callan watched every single one like a beast.
03:14:26.000
We tried to get him to shut the fuck up several times.
03:14:30.000
We tried to get him into talking fucking alligator, octopus.
03:14:34.000
Getting Joey to make a phone call during the main event, like in the third round or the fourth round, like Howard Harold Letterman giving his...
03:14:55.000
If he called in in the fourth round, what would he say?
03:15:02.000
That's some old school game of death type shit.
03:15:06.000
He's gonna pull out four knives and cut his own fucking chest.
03:15:15.000
He's one of them North Carolina Christians, dawg.
03:15:28.000
Those people, they're eating that fucking gumbo.
03:15:45.000
It would just go on some swamp people show rant, and you'd be like, yes, where do I zon?
03:15:53.000
I'm going to prank calling him right now, see if he answers?
03:16:04.000
Yeah, I was working out, and I was watching these guys do their different point of views, like what one guy has to do to win, what another guy has to do to win.
03:16:18.000
If you watch him on ESPN, he's a fucking monster at breaking them down.
03:16:43.000
I know Donald Cerrone won and I know Wonderboy won.
03:17:09.000
Donald Cerrone, you know, I know he nullified the right hand of Patrick Cote.
03:17:23.000
Do you think that Donald Cerrone is better at 170, Joey?
03:17:35.000
You know, he loses one out of every five, one out of every six.
03:17:39.000
I don't know if he's in Greg Jackson's camp anymore.
03:17:47.000
He's got this thing called Bad Motherfucker Ranch.
03:18:18.000
When you go to Philly Helium, the fucking hair's always...
03:18:34.000
What happened was something fucked up because it taped the auto racing instead.
03:18:49.000
There was some crazy thing that happened with Fox Sports 1 and Fox Sports 2. Jamie nailed it.
03:19:01.000
And then all of a sudden a bunch of fucking cars started coming at me.
03:19:12.000
Because I also taped O.J. Made in America Part 5. It's fucking brilliant, Joey!
03:19:20.000
It's 30 for 30 on ESPN. You know what the beauty is about O.J. Made in America?
03:19:37.000
That could have been OJ. That could have been Brad Pitt.
03:19:42.000
You gotta watch it, Joe Rogan, because it breaks it down all the way to he was at USC. And the most interesting part, Brendan Sharp, tell him when fucking Muhammad Ali put that thing together.
03:19:56.000
Yeah, and he said, fuck that, I'm not black, I'm OJ, and separated himself from blacks and himself.
03:20:42.000
It's called CTE. They're saying if the trial was today, they would argue CTE clinically and say...
03:20:50.000
They would argue CTE because that's what it is.
03:20:52.000
He has a different style of CTE. That motherfuckin' thing in the pussy is snaps.
03:21:00.000
Chronic Traumatic Encephalogy or something like that?
03:21:20.000
Brendan Schaub, did you see episode four of it?
03:22:20.000
Then he went and choked him, caught him, said he was on the floor against two fences, bro.
03:22:34.000
But you know, the one thing that perplexes me as a dummy, how do they figure that out?
03:22:59.000
Yeah, and also, Joey, they're saying it was such a hate crime that when he hit her in the throat, it basically decapitated her.
03:23:06.000
So they're saying that it would have to be such a passion of crime, like he had such a love for her, when you hit someone that hard to sever their neck and almost cut her head off, it had to have been a passion of crime.
03:23:42.000
They were saying that they were signed inside the jail.
03:23:44.000
Hey Joey, how about most of the defense team is dead?
03:24:11.000
Assuming I've lost my mind and I want to be terrified.
03:24:30.000
Hey Joey, even to the way they dressed, they had a whole game plan.
03:24:34.000
Even to their ties, their suits, they had a whole game plan.
03:24:45.000
It paints a different story on how O.J. Simpson, he wouldn't associate himself as being black.
03:24:52.000
He viewed himself as O.J. So he always thought he was bigger than the race.
03:24:56.000
It's so crazy the way they painted the picture.
03:25:18.000
Hey, there's a documentary you can watch on YouTube.
03:25:35.000
It's ranked 100. He had CTE, but then you sprinkle that cocaine in it.
03:25:51.000
I said what's interesting is one of the doctors that was somehow involved in the case back in the day was on TV recently, and he was talking about the new discoveries about CTE, the new understanding about CTE, and they said that it is very possible that they might have actually introduced that into the trial back then if they knew what they knew now,
03:26:42.000
How much do you know about CTE? You saw a concussion?
03:26:53.000
And after I saw the movie, I just started thinking about things.
03:27:01.000
Things that happened over the years with people I knew who played football.
03:28:03.000
I know that right now, I can see the beginnings of it in some fighters.
03:28:10.000
And if you don't see the beginning of it in some fighters, then you're not looking.
03:28:18.000
Well, it's interesting because it's like, when do you make a decision when you're a fighter?
03:28:22.000
And Brendan, you're the only one that can talk about this.
03:28:26.000
When your good friend Joe Rogan sits you down and tells you you just fucking suck.
03:28:39.000
Except that once you tap that button, you keep getting knocked out.
03:28:55.000
If people are listening to this, Joey Diaz is on speakerphone, on Eddie Bravo's phone, and he can't hear Brendan, who's on the other side of the table, because Eddie's got the speakerphone.
03:29:15.000
I'm just telling people that you couldn't hear Brendan.
03:29:18.000
Yeah, it's one of those things where you gotta wonder as a fighter, like, where do you draw the line?
03:29:23.000
Because you look at a guy like Alistair Overeem, he's been stopped a bunch of times, but Alistair's about to fight for the title, you know?
03:29:33.000
He knocked out, you know, he knocked out Junior Dos Santos in a spectacular, no, Rothwell knocked him out.
03:29:50.000
Because people can say, well, you've taken too many fights.
03:29:57.000
I make six figures fighting, I'm gonna get punched on shitting my pants in front of my kids.
03:30:02.000
But that's also, don't you think that there's an important point where you have to decide whether or not it's what you actually want to do?
03:30:08.000
And you had the option to do other shit, and it was a perfect time for you to just step back and do other shit, but some people...
03:30:16.000
I also have Joe Rogan and Brian Cowan who helped me out and gave me a platform.
03:30:23.000
There's a lot of dudes who, they would do podcasts, and you'd be like, shut that shit off.
03:30:48.000
He won't drive and do fire in the gate because it's too far.
03:31:06.000
He always has the right shit to say about everything.
03:31:09.000
You're not going to get him over there on the west side like Marina Del Rey or Xenas.
03:31:22.000
You're in no danger of me driving down to fucking Laguna Niguel.
03:31:54.000
Hey, talk to me about, hey, you know, I go on there and he goes, talk to me about Boulder.
03:32:02.000
Let me tell you about my stories about Boulder.
03:32:07.000
I want you to talk to me about mountains and streams and eagles and ferrets.
03:32:42.000
I talked to you about some places he's never even been.
03:32:46.000
Those dirty white people that work in the mines.
03:32:52.000
They want these Chinese women to suck their dicks.
03:32:54.000
And they come over in fucking old World War II Snoopy airplanes.
03:32:58.000
And they drop them out of the sky and they just suck your dick and they just fucking shoot right back off of the space.
03:33:10.000
When are you going to meet another Joey Diaz in your life?
03:33:22.000
How about Wonderboy's only loss was to Matt fucking Brown?
03:33:38.000
Well, that Glover fight is going to be hard for a proud former champion like him to go out on.
03:33:54.000
But Gustafsson already has a fight scheduled, and there might be a reason why they scheduled the guy against him.
03:34:03.000
It's a guy not ranked in the top ten, I know that.
03:34:22.000
But the only thing is, Gustin's going, you know, he almost beat Jon Jones at Decision.
03:34:30.000
I think because he said time off, it's almost a welcome back.
03:34:43.000
He never did it really like he was going to beat Jon Jones.
03:35:25.000
He picked him up and slammed him and then submitted him.
03:35:28.000
That might be one of the most dangerous times in his career because his arm was completely hyperextended.
03:35:39.000
It's one of the reasons why he took that job on The Ultimate Fighter with Chael Sonnen because he wasn't going to fight for quite a long time.
03:35:47.000
So they knew that, so they scheduled that fight next, and then if you remember correctly, he has that fight, he beats the shit out of Chael Sonnen and breaks his toe in the process.
03:35:56.000
He was pushing off the mat so fucking hard trying to kill Chael Sonnen that he broke his own toe and spun it around.
03:36:05.000
And he didn't even realize it until he looked down.
03:36:09.000
He was standing there after the fight was over, I was talking to him, and then he looked down and realized that he had twisted his toe upside down.
03:36:20.000
And if DC don't beat him, it's all where everyone's fucked.
03:36:26.000
I don't know if he's right, but Greg Jackson was saying that he thought that one of the things about John being...
03:36:34.000
I thought he took a lot of time off, and he had a lot of pressure.
03:36:36.000
I thought he fought very creatively, and I thought he fought well.
03:36:46.000
But I think, considering the fact that he was off for a long time, and all the personal problems that he went through, and he fought a real tough guy in OSP that was in a fairly defensive position in a lot of the fight.
03:37:00.000
He fought a smart fight, tested the water, he did the best to his ability, took some chances, but he got out of the fight ultimately in pretty good shape, except for his arm.
03:37:12.000
John broke his arm, probably significantly slowed him down.
03:37:17.000
So, I didn't think it was a bad performance at all.
03:37:19.000
I think OSP is fucking good, man, and getting better and a dangerous...
03:37:27.000
I just thought John looked kind of lackadaisical.
03:37:33.000
Also, getting that off of his chest and then getting back in there and fighting Daniel is going to be like a warm-up fight against a top six guy.
03:37:50.000
But what I was going to say is that Greg Jackson seemed to think, allegedly, after that fight, that the weightlifting might have played a part in him looking tight.
03:38:00.000
That's fair, because when you're in the weight room, you put on more muscle, you're slower, you're not as fluid.
03:38:12.000
Hey, Greg Jackson, I think it's more that he T-boned a pregnant lady, ran from the scene, spent some time in jail, didn't find lockdown forever.
03:38:23.000
Then he fought a very talented Southpaw who's tricky to deal with.
03:38:31.000
It's interesting that you would immediately blame one aspect.
03:38:35.000
Because one of the things that was after I talked to John, or while I was talking to John after the fight, one of the things that he said was that he felt physically great.
03:38:45.000
He wasn't engaging enough or he wasn't pulling the trigger when he wanted to.
03:38:51.000
He hadn't been fighting in a long time, all the pressure.
03:38:56.000
And maybe even, it's not either or, maybe even the weightlifting might have slowed him down a little bit.
03:39:01.000
Maybe, but like you said, I think it's a number of things.
03:39:07.000
I'm not saying it's a warm-up fight, but he's not fighting a top-ten guy.
03:39:10.000
John's warm-up fight was against the number-six guy in the world, a Southpaw who's explosive as fuck.
03:39:21.000
Is there some sort of history between Gustafson and the guys fighting?
03:39:26.000
Remember Gustafson was like, I don't know if I want to do this anymore.
03:39:34.000
Let's see what happens because you're a phenomenal fighter.
03:39:39.000
Because you as a fighter, when a fighter starts entertaining those thoughts of stopping...
03:39:52.000
And this has come from a guy who didn't think that way for a long time.
03:39:55.000
Even when you told me that, I'm like, what's he talking about?
03:39:57.000
And then when finally the dust fell, I'm like, he's kind of fucking right.
03:40:01.000
Because then when you're fighting guys who it's all they have, good luck.
03:40:29.000
Because I'm telling you, there's guys out there who they live and die for this shit, and they don't care about anything else.
03:40:41.000
While you're doing a fucking radio show telling dick jokes, this guy's hitting mitts or getting better at the craft.
03:41:02.000
He was pressing the action, looking to establish his range and everything.
03:41:07.000
It was like a minute in, and this dude hit him with a perfectly timed left hand, like right on the eye socket.
03:41:13.000
He went down, and then he finished him off with some sick hammer fist.
03:41:19.000
And this guy had been, like, threatened with the left hand, but couldn't find his range.
03:41:22.000
Watch how he just slides back and then back in.
03:41:39.000
In the UFC. If you teabag a man who's unconscious on a barroom floor.
03:41:51.000
Tamden's holding on some weird shit on the side of the ear area.
03:41:59.000
More bold and sexy celebrities there are, the better for all of us.
03:42:15.000
Well, you know, Tamden McCrory looked really good in his last fight, man.
03:42:22.000
And, you know, this is just the nature of the beast, man.
03:42:27.000
Meanwhile, look how fucking goddamn good Cowboy looked tonight.
03:42:32.000
The best fight I saw last weekend, I text you, was Lemachenko.
03:42:43.000
His first pro fight, he goes, I want a world championship fight.
03:42:46.000
They go, we can't give it to you on the first fight.
03:42:47.000
So he gets on a second fight, wins a world championship.
03:42:53.000
I'm telling you, man, this is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world right now.
03:43:01.000
If you like Dominic Cruz, this guy's doing it in boxing.
03:43:17.000
It was a decision, and some people even gave it to Lomachenko.
03:43:20.000
Well, Solis is just really good at brawling, man.
03:43:27.000
You know, if you go look at, like, badass blood and guts fighters, if you had to look at, like, one nation that continually produces badass blood and guts fighters...
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They don't want to give it to him because he's good looking.
03:43:53.000
I re-watched Oscar De La Hoya versus Julio Cesar Chavez last week.
03:44:03.000
I saw that at the LA Sports Arena on closed circuit.
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It's like a basketball arena and you get to see it on the screen.
03:44:13.000
Dude, I wore a Marquez shirt on the podcast the other day.
03:45:01.000
Marco Antonio Barrera had that Prince Hamed fight.
03:45:04.000
It was Marco Antonio Barrera and he was fighting someone else.
03:45:10.000
Give me Marco Antonio Barrera's Wikipedia so I can figure out which fight it was.
03:45:17.000
I just moved to New York or here from New York with my friend Terry Claiborne who's still a boxing trainer in LA. What gym?
03:45:36.000
It was when Marco Antonio Barrera, before he even fought Prince Nassim Hamed.
03:46:16.000
But that was when I was working out at the Hollywood gym.
03:46:24.000
That gym that is still there, that Hollywood gym is a 24-hour gym, still to this day.
03:46:29.000
It's on La Brea, right across the street from where our old legends used to be.
03:46:34.000
I used to work out there, and he was training John David Jackson when John David Jackson was a middleweight champion.
03:46:44.000
And this one, Sugar Shane Mosley was just coming up, dude.
03:46:48.000
He had won the Olympics, and he was just coming up as a pro boxer.
03:46:51.000
And everybody was like, God damn, keep your eyes on Sugar Shane Mosley.
03:46:55.000
He was ranked pound for pound best in the world for a long time.
03:47:05.000
What was it like doing commentary on his fight?
03:47:18.000
It's tough because it's obviously past his time, you know?
03:47:21.000
He fought a young line and he did well, but he probably lost the fight.
03:47:27.000
He definitely lost the fight, but where do you go from here?
03:47:30.000
And the winner of that fight fights Thurman or Porter.
03:47:40.000
I don't know well enough that we know each other where I can say, hey brother, what are you doing?
03:47:45.000
How do you distinguish a guy like Shane Mosley from a guy like Bernard Hopkins?
03:47:48.000
A guy like Bernard Hopkins, if he thinks that he can fight somebody, I want to see him see if he can fight that guy.
03:47:54.000
Even though he's 49 or almost 50. I mean, that guy, the only guy that really kind of dismantled his defense was Kovalev.
03:48:04.000
Kovalev, to me, might be the best in the world, pound for pound.
03:48:09.000
Gennady Golovkin and him apparently had some wars, some boxing wars, that's what the rumors are.
03:48:37.000
Khabib's undefeated, just injuries stopped him.
03:48:50.000
There's a lot of them, but Tyson Fury just beat Vladimir Klitschko.
03:48:55.000
Yeah, but Tyson Fury just beat Vladimir Klitschko.
03:49:11.000
Brendan, in boxing right now, is there an African-American heavyweight boxer that's fucking vicious?
03:49:18.000
Oh, Anthony Joshua from England's a fucking monster.
03:49:39.000
Fuck that gigantic killer praying mantis world champion jiu-jitsu strangler.
03:49:46.000
Damien Maia puts the choke to people, my friend.
03:49:53.000
Chris Biel was tagging Joe Soto, but Joe Soto was moving with shit.
03:49:57.000
He was constantly pressuring him, and he got him to the ground and took his back twice.
03:50:05.000
Joe Soto's in the next EBI. He's a David Terrell guy, right?
03:50:11.000
He got to the finals against Eddie Cummings in EBI 4 the last time we hit the feather lines.
03:50:17.000
He yelled something at me, and I wanted to talk to you about this, because he yelled something to me after he won his last fight.
03:50:32.000
Like, as if I knew it because of him telling Eddie I didn't grease up.
03:50:43.000
Well, he was just trying to clarify to me because he knew that they were on commercial.
03:51:01.000
Because once he got to the ground, he was taking his back, like, really quick.
03:51:10.000
Yeah, it wasn't like he was in danger of getting reversed.
03:51:13.000
It was more of like how quickly would he be able to progress to the back?
03:51:17.000
It was just a matter of time before he got his neck.
03:51:23.000
Well, those David Terrell guys are fucking animals.
03:51:26.000
It says David Terrell in the training room is the biggest fucking freak of all time.
03:51:31.000
All the legendary stories I hear, everyone tells me David Terrell is a motherfucker.
03:51:39.000
We saw him grapple in his prime in Abu Dhabi in 2003, back when Eddie went down there.
03:51:45.000
I saw him in his prime against some really high-level guys.
03:51:49.000
I heard even then he never lived up to his potential.
03:51:58.000
I think I've met him once passing through UFC. He's like a centaur.
03:52:03.000
These stories I hear from other people and legit people are nuts.
03:52:07.000
One thing that was clear with Joe Soto in EBI 4 was his leg locks were really good and his leg lock defense was insane.
03:52:17.000
He's been all about leg locks for the last 10, 15 years.
03:52:19.000
And he got to the finals against Eddie Cummings, who just leg locked three dudes in a row.
03:52:25.000
And you would think, nobody ever sits on their ass and plays footsies with Eddie Cummings.
03:52:30.000
Yeah, that's like, okay, let's try to get around those legs and try to play smash.
03:52:35.000
They don't want to go leg for legs with Eddie Cummings.
03:52:57.000
It's the best grappling format that's ever been created.
03:53:11.000
That's the one thing about fight shows is that one thing the King of the Cage had that no one else had is they would have 13 fights, but there would be no waiting.
03:53:19.000
As soon as one fight was done, boom, they start the next fight.
03:53:23.000
For MMA, that's a bad idea, but I hear you for Jiu-Jitsu.
03:53:26.000
Well, for anything it's great because it just moves the show along.
03:53:30.000
And, you know, we were all behind schedule because we had to do everything in a three-hour block because of pay-per-view.
03:53:36.000
And we were behind, so we weren't even showing replays.
03:53:59.000
We don't have an opponent for her, but Grace is fighting an EBI 7 as well.
03:54:03.000
Well, I'm super curious to see how this is received because as a person who loves jujitsu, And I think we could all agree on this.
03:54:10.000
One of the big problems, you've been involved in these kind of matches.
03:54:15.000
And you'll have professional matches four, five, six in a row, and nothing happens.
03:54:30.000
For the public, they're not trying to see that.
03:54:37.000
I'm just saying, if you want ratings, you need finishes.
03:54:44.000
Because there's something interesting about a fight that gets that close to being finished several times, but a guy escapes, and you don't know exactly what's going to happen, and there's a lot of drama, and then it gets to the end, and there's still drama.
03:54:56.000
But it would be infinitely better if then they moved into your format.
03:55:00.000
That draw was pretty good because it was a technical jiu-jitsu battle, but your format makes that draw one of the best fights in the history of the world.
03:55:10.000
That's what I'm saying, because they're both in danger.
03:55:12.000
If all of a sudden AJ's got Jake Shields' back and he starts with the over-under, or Jake's got his back and he starts with the over-under.
03:55:20.000
Your format proves that we want to see people try and finish.
03:55:23.000
Because if you go to the Metamore style, it proves that that thing's not working.
03:55:35.000
There was more incentive to win instead of a draw.
03:55:42.000
The problem with the draws is when it's clear that one of the fighters or both of the fighters are totally satisfied with the draw, they're like, fuck it.
03:55:56.000
But if two guys are really going after it, then it's not a problem.
03:55:59.000
So how do you make guys two really go after it?
03:56:09.000
I'm saying you have to do EBI rules, otherwise you fuck.
03:56:22.000
I don't know what the race is, but some Porsche just got destroyed.
03:56:33.000
Who knows more about cars running for Joe all day?
03:56:36.000
You're like a blue belt and he's like a black belt, right?
03:56:39.000
Joe's been looking at car magazines for the last 20 years.
03:56:51.000
But if you're into something, you know the ins and outs of it.
03:56:54.000
Like archery shooting, you're going to spend 20 hours on it.
03:56:57.000
I'll spend an hour on it, then I'll move on to something else, then I'll come back the next day another hour.
03:57:19.000
Remember to sketch the Asian NASCAR driver sex?
03:57:41.000
I guess they have a bunch of fucking accidents.
03:57:57.000
You gotta get the fuck out of Dodge before you become a part of the problem.
03:58:03.000
I think racing is fucking probably so unbelievably exciting, but the consequences are absolutely devastating.
03:58:12.000
How crazy do you have to be to race a car like that?
03:58:16.000
No, they develop a real good sense of how to control the car.
03:58:20.000
And then at a high level, you're around a lot of other people with a really good sense of how to control a car.
03:58:26.000
And that was like one of the things about that fucking dude, Ayrton Senna.
03:58:33.000
Have you ever seen that documentary on Ayrton Senna?
03:58:35.000
He's a Brazilian guy who is a Formula 1 racer who is extremely aggressive.
03:58:40.000
I think it's Formula 1. He's a race car driver.
03:58:44.000
I believe that he was Formula 1. But they had a documentary on him.
03:58:51.000
He was just this dude who just felt where the car was going at a level, like an understanding that very few people ever get to and he would push it to that fucking limit.
03:59:04.000
He like had this feeling for what a car could and couldn't do and he, better than almost anybody of his era, could get the car to that limit and everybody was scared of him.
03:59:15.000
Damn, they got a Porsche 911 GRS. You need to step your game up, Joe.
03:59:31.000
But I like to go through a canyon at a slightly unreasonable rate of speed.
03:59:48.000
Dude, I love me a Ford GT. How often do guys die in racing?
03:59:58.000
They had a bunch of regulations put in place after, like, Dale Earnhardt died for infants.
04:00:04.000
There's F1. You're talking about NASCAR over F1. What?
04:00:09.000
What kind of sport, other than race car driving, does, like, one of the number one guys die on the job and everybody's like, well, back to work.
04:00:16.000
But they can get really bad wrecks now and they'll walk away from it.
04:00:22.000
They're barely moving in those little cockpits.
04:00:32.000
Well, that's awesome that they figured that out.
04:00:54.000
It's not an athlete to the same extent as an MMA fighter or a basketball player or someone who relies on endurance as well as explosive ability.
04:01:08.000
How is this any different if I play a race car game on my couch?
04:01:28.000
The terror of getting in an accident, even if you don't think you're going to die.
04:01:47.000
The definition is, you know, trying to put this in.
04:01:53.000
But why does it have to be a sport or a game or an endeavor?
04:02:00.000
Like, there's no need to categorize it and decide whether or not it's a sport.
04:02:03.000
Hey, man, you're the one that said it was a sport.
04:02:10.000
I mean, it's not on fucking CNN. Money's involved.
04:02:44.000
Hey, let's hit him in the head and then make him do complex math.
04:02:53.000
These fucking cars are so goddamn capable today.
04:02:56.000
When you look at cars just a few decades ago, like, car engineering is at an amazing level right now.
04:03:08.000
At what point does this go away when you have fucking Teslas driving themselves and then you have Ferrari with a thousand horsemen driving themselves?
04:03:15.000
Eddie Brown, are you baiting me here, Eddie Brown?
04:03:43.000
This is, like, some shit they're going to laugh about one day.
04:03:57.000
It's, like, one of the greatest podcasts of all time.