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00:02:39.000He's had tough fights with John, tough fight with DC. He got beat up by Rumble, you know, and he's took a long time off, came back, and looked better than he's ever looked.
00:02:50.000Wasn't he for a second there thinking about retiring?
00:06:00.000Not only did everybody root for Tony Montana, but anytime I would see that movie another time, I was hoping there would be some kind of alternate ending.
00:06:10.000As a kid, I'd go, why don't he just leave town?
00:07:13.000They beat him and whipped him to death and he came back to life as a supernatural hitman and he came back and fucked everybody up.
00:07:20.000Well, I don't know that that was the case, but I know that when High Plains Drifter takes his shirt off and he's got all these bullet marks and the guy goes, but you're dead.
00:07:28.000Wait, wasn't he supposed to be like a ghost?
00:09:27.000That is something very serious that should have been taken care of a long time ago.
00:09:31.000If I was fighting this guy, and I saw that he was doing that to his toenails right before a fight with his fingers, I'd be like, fuck that, man.
00:20:06.000Like, you get too much mass and not enough conditioning, and you work too much on explosion in the fight, and not enough on technique, not enough on pacing yourself.
00:23:15.000If you want to say that the guy standing up can't soccer kick the guy in the head or stomp him in the head, okay, we can argue that because of the cage.
00:23:21.000Because the guy can't go anywhere, but you can't argue that if they're in that position.
00:23:25.000If the guy's going for a heel hook and they're both on the ground, you should absolutely be able to kick just like you can absolutely elbow to the head, you could punch to the head.
00:23:58.000You should be able to kick the shit out of him if you're on your back.
00:24:00.000You know, I was in Singapore, and I hung out with Shatree, the guy who owns Evolve, and he owns one FC. Oh, the guy who owns Evolve owns one FC as well?
00:26:23.000The only reason he's so confident that he can close the distance and get a hold of you is because you can't up kick him when you have one knee down.
00:27:37.000If your guy can get you inside control, you should be fucking scrambling like a wildcat.
00:27:43.000If you're not scrambling like a wildcat, it means you're compromised.
00:27:47.000And if you're compromised, it means you either got too tired or you got too hurt and that guy should be able to capitalize.
00:27:53.000A knee to the head when you're down, the only time it's a problem in my eyes is when you can't move your head.
00:27:58.000That's why pride was superior in that respect because they had those ropes.
00:28:02.000So you can go under the ropes and avoid soccer kicks, you could avoid stomps, you could avoid knees.
00:28:06.000The only argument against soccer kicks and stomps and knees to the head is the fucking cage.
00:28:11.000Getting your head pressed up against the cage and getting stuck.
00:28:13.000In my opinion, that makes it a problem.
00:28:15.000Because the guy can't get out of the way of a strike, so then the artificial boundary of the cage becomes a weapon.
00:28:22.000And obviously you can strategize to get the fuck away from it, don't let it happen to you.
00:28:27.000If it does happen to you, it's very dangerous.
00:28:28.000It makes fights more exciting because there's more opportunities for KOs, but you're going to shorten careers too.
00:28:33.000I have a different point of view on it in that I don't think that when you don't have knees to the head when you're in that position or when your hands are on the ground or, for example, soccer kicks, I don't think it makes...
00:28:45.000If you added those things, I think it would do two things.
00:28:48.000It would not make the sport more exciting, but it would make it more brutal and it would probably shorten careers.
00:28:54.000So in my opinion, it's brutal enough and there's enough technique to...
00:28:58.000You're talking like you're on CNN. I know, but to not allow certain, like...
00:30:05.000He said he wouldn't let anybody wear anything.
00:30:08.000If you want to wear a gi in 1FC, you can wear a gi.
00:30:11.000You can wear Aikido pants if you want in 1FC. I think you should be able to wear a gi, and I think you should have no gloves.
00:30:17.000I think gloves, if you can knee someone in the head, elbow someone in the face, you can kick them in the head with your fucking shin.
00:30:23.000Dude, my shin is so much less vulnerable than my hands.
00:30:28.000Should we get rid of weight classes too?
00:30:30.000No, but you should take away the pants.
00:30:33.000If you're gonna have padding, we should have padding on the shins, we should have padding on the knuckles, we should have absolute padding on the heel.
00:30:40.000Because the heel is the most dangerous, in my opinion.
00:30:42.000Because I could wheel kick something, you could hit something really hard, and it doesn't really hurt your heel.
00:30:47.000You punch someone in the head, you have a really good chance if you hit the forehead of breaking your hand.
00:30:52.000I've never heard of a guy wheel kicking a guy in the head and hurting his foot.
00:30:56.000I mean, I've hurt my foot to the point where I was limping, but I never hurt my foot.
00:34:17.000If one day in the future you have 100% transparency and you get to see all the crimes that are committed all across the world, how many times per day are dudes coming across the border with drugs up their ass?
00:36:54.000I don't know what you know I looked at it peripherally like I saw like ubers in trouble again Ubers in the news president has says some shit that they've lost a lot of money and it helps lift Yeah, that Lyft is the new version, right?
00:37:31.000I got an Uber for my friend, and he was going to my podcast, so I'm watching him from his house, and I'm watching the car do all these fucking turns.
00:37:50.000If this guy never had a chemical controversy, you know, I mean, if we had a frozen time machine from 1997 on and he got it all dialed in, he'd be one of the greatest of all time.
00:38:38.000So it's like, man, there's something to be said for the strategy if you hurt a guy in MMA, you have little gloves on, and you just fucking swarm them.
00:38:58.000He got fucked up by Rumble Johnson in Brazil.
00:39:00.000Rumble didn't even make 185. Rumble was way over 185. This was back when Rumble went up from 170 to 185. Didn't even make 185. Put a beating on Vitor and then ran out of gas.
00:40:15.000And for those who don't know, Brendan Schaub extensively trained with Nate Marquardt back in the day, and you said you never saw him lose a round.
00:58:05.000Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about.
00:58:07.000The real interesting thing, if you're gonna go blunt, you really should go Charlie Murphy style, which is where you take a Swisher Sweets, you take the weed and you put it inside, take the tobacco out, and so then you're getting the harshness of the tobacco and you get that weird tobacco buzz from the outside.
00:59:27.000Nate won one and two, and then Vitor won the third.
00:59:30.000That's the only round Vitor did anything.
00:59:32.000Again, I've ate a shitload of provolone, I've had some wine, and a latte.
00:59:35.000I watched some good moments in the fight by Vitor, and I thought I saw a few more good moments by Nate, but I was in no means judging the fight.
01:01:47.000Sometimes I think I'm saying, like, Vitor, but I'm really saying Nate.
01:01:51.000Like, I'll fucking, I'll have it in my head, cross-crossed, because what I'm trying is just, I'm trying to pay attention, and I'm all trying to talk at the same, no, it's not the weed.
01:04:23.000Beltran's in my top ten in the world too.
01:04:25.000He's one of the smartest, I've deal with a lot of people in the industry over the years, he's one of the smartest dudes that I've ever met.
01:04:34.000And Mike is a fucking great human being.
01:08:10.000Not yet, but based on those videos that I'm watching about the hanging, if you have any kind of tears, if you hang, eventually it'll fix it up.
01:09:16.000Yes, because the men are too heavy, and they couldn't hold their weight up.
01:09:20.000Because if you're a man, even if you have stronger hands and stronger muscles, the amount more that you weigh against a 130-pound woman...
01:09:27.000You know, most guys are weak in that regard.
01:09:30.000And most primates, that's one of the things about the shoulder, like our shoulders came from primates.
01:09:35.000So the premise behind this hanging is that some of the lack of mobility and impingements and problems that we have with our shoulder joint is simply from a lack of your shoulder articulating correctly and stretching out.
01:09:50.000Doing range of motion things, like I do a lot of kettlebell shield casts, not a kettlebell, but a club.
01:09:58.000I do these shield casts, which are really big, so these big movements.
01:11:08.000Yeah, your cardio and your endurance should be done doing other things.
01:11:12.000Either skill work, like martial arts, whether it's jiu-jitsu or kickboxing, or strength and conditioning work, like running stairs and shit like that.
01:12:37.000Stabilizing muscles are the ones that oftentimes cause issues with your range of motion and with using it in terms of functional strength, like using it for martial arts or using it for anything where you would be using...
01:12:51.000I guess I would even think sports, like throwing things.
01:12:54.000I mean, I would think that shoulder stability is super important.
01:12:57.000I remember what I was going to ask you.
01:12:58.000When you say no more than five reps, do you mean use the amount of weight where you fail at five reps?
01:13:13.000He's like the godfather of kettlebells in the United States.
01:13:15.000He's the guy that came over from Russia.
01:13:17.000He's got a ton of books out and videos.
01:13:20.000And his belief is that strength is a skill.
01:13:24.000And that you should never do a skill when you're tired.
01:13:27.000And so the idea, and if I'm paraphrasing and fucking this up, please, I apologize.
01:13:31.000But the principle behind it I know of, and the principle is that, like, say if you can lift something, and you get to, like, seven, eight reps, and you get to the eighth rep, and you're like, And they're like, keep going, keep going.
01:14:16.000But I'm telling you, one of the good things about this is you have people that get injured less because your muscles are never working, like, fully fatigued.
01:14:23.000They're never working to the point of failure.
01:14:25.000But you're still lifting heavy weight.
01:14:27.000But you're lifting, say, if you could lift something and you could do ten repetitions, don't do ten.
01:15:13.000One of the things that that guy brought to the United States is not just the kettlebell, but also some serious fucking bodyweight exercises, and then some movements that now have become really standard.
01:16:39.000Like, the point is that you have that kind of core power that you can get up from your feet, and how applicable is that to grappling?
01:16:46.000So one of the most applicable, like, in terms of, like, functional strength, Turkish get-up is one of the most applicable, because if you can fucking lie on your back and press something, and then sit up with that fucker overhead...
01:16:58.000Well, that was my move, if you remember, like, with Roy, as soon as the arm would pass him, so I can try it, just...
01:25:34.000She's the only JJ other than Jon Jones.
01:25:36.000There's one JJ. It's too much confusion.
01:25:38.000But the problem is, Yon Jacek sounds like JY. That's like once the Thai guys start flooding into MMA. Oh, you thought you had it hard with the Polish people.
01:25:48.000When the Thai guys come in, they got like 35 letters in some of their names.
01:25:53.000Wait, while we're waiting for the next fight, did you guys see what the fuck Lion Fight did?
01:25:58.000There's a revolution going on right now.
01:26:00.000Eddie, did you see what Lion Fight did?
01:27:47.000And we're not talking about a guy who's like an elite world-class striker and he's fighting this guy, Lerdzilla, who's just a fucking assassin.
01:27:55.000He probably got a thousand bucks for that and a headache.
01:34:05.000And then when you get there, you realize, wait a minute, they're cutting off, they framed off like the people trying to sell you a fucking crocodile floating.
01:34:16.000I thought I was going to be alone on this island.
01:34:19.000I didn't know there was going to be like fucking...
01:34:21.000I thought there was going to be a fresh coronavirus.
01:34:25.000I thought, I thought, I went to Thailand.
01:34:27.000I go, I'm going to go to deserted fucking island on Thailand.
01:35:50.000Well, he is famous, and he sells cheeseburgers.
01:35:53.000Hey man, is that cultural appropriation?
01:35:56.000Because a bunch of chicks got ran out of Portland, these girls got ran out of Portland because they were white and they were making burritos?
01:36:01.000Yeah, because the United States is cultural appropriation.
01:36:04.000That's how you get better as a person.
01:36:05.000No, I don't want a white girl making my burrito.
01:36:07.000Brian's about to go Fox News on us here.
01:36:21.000Boys, if we ever do a fight companion that's like in Europe or something like that, it's on the weekend, I gotta take you guys to a real legit Mexican joint down the street.
01:36:30.000Do you guys realize there's a Mexican in the room?
01:37:42.000I think for a guy like Aldo, who's been the champion, besides Conor McGregor, there's only been one ever 145-pound champion in the UFC. That's that guy you're looking at right now.
01:38:28.000But that was also when he was having a hard time making that weight.
01:38:31.000That was when we did that press conference the day before the fight, and it was the day of the weigh-ins, and he could barely be on the DS because he was so weakened by the weight cut because he hadn't weighed in yet.
01:38:44.000I think although, I mean, the crazy thing is, he's always gonna be judged by that Conor McGregor fight.
01:47:50.000Oh, that fucking sneaky left hook to the body, man.
01:47:54.000Dude, Aldo, one of the best ever, ever, ever, still.
01:47:57.000Dude, that sneaky left hook to the body is no joke, and he follows it up with that right leg kick a lot, and by the way, he hasn't thrown any of them yet.
01:58:24.000Aldo, he's shaking his head because he still wanted to be able to fight, and it's a referee's call to stop the fight, and he's very upset about that he was stuck.
02:00:33.000He's on top of him, dropping bombs on him.
02:00:35.000There was a couple of times in the fight where it looked like Aldo went out, but his will, his will and his need to fucking get through this.
02:01:37.000This is fighting and people win and people lose and the the sport ultimately It depends upon these sort of fights It depends upon these all-time greats, like Aldo, facing some guy who's got the solution to what that guy presents.
02:01:54.000I mean, he went out there with all of his championship medal, and he laid it all on the line, he fought his best, and his puzzle got solved by the new breed.
02:05:17.000Do you imagine if they offered that in Fight Companion, if that was one of the options, like you get Fight Companion, or in Fight Pass, you get Fight Companion commentary.
02:05:28.000You know how big the ratings would go up?
02:05:31.000They would have already contacted you.
02:06:58.000Here's what's important about this fight.
02:06:59.000It's not just that Max Holloway did this, but that Max Holloway did this to Jose Aldo.
02:07:04.000Max Holloway left no doubt in anyone's mind, this is the best 145 pound fighter on the planet Earth.
02:07:12.000If you look at how Aldo got past Frankie Edgar, you look at how Aldo got past everybody except for Conor, and then you know that Conor's not coming down to 145 more.
02:07:21.000That's the motherfucker right there, and he made it emphatic tonight.
02:07:57.000Either he can learn from how Frankie was able to take him down and beat the fuck out of him, and then figure out a way to never let that happen again, or be overwhelmed by the pressure of that loss and the circumstances and the sorrow.
02:10:16.000As Kendrick says, there's levels to this.
02:10:17.000Everybody that knows anybody in any kind of martial art, whether it's boxing or wrestling or jujitsu, there's always people who overestimate their proficiency.
02:12:48.000His body of work is much more impressive.
02:12:50.000And there's always going to be an asterisk next to Conor because, you know, there was just this one time he fought for the title at 145, KO'd Aldo.
02:14:23.000Okay, then Anderson Silva has the Damian Maia fight, the Thales Lades fight, those horrible fights.
02:14:29.000Fedor had some boring-ass fights, too.
02:14:31.000But Anderson had those earlier, and then he started dominating people.
02:14:34.000And when you look at some of the crazy Anderson fights, like the Forrest Griffin KO, when you look at Anderson, like, motivated Anderson, when he's, like, in shape, and the James Irvin when he went up to 205. James Ervin.
02:14:45.000I know, it's true, but when you see him as an assassin against Vitor Belfort, Vitor, who is super dangerous.
02:20:10.000What he's been saying is that he's been working out with Franco Columbo, and him and Franco Columbo travel around together, and they work out together.
02:27:09.000They organized a massive lawsuit campaign against the IRS. And they said that if you can say that all these different religions, whether it's Catholicism or Mormonism, Mormonism has very questionable backgrounds.
02:27:22.000Mormonism was started by Joseph Smith, who was a known con man.
02:27:28.000He found it when he was 14. He said he found golden tablets that contained the lost work of Jesus, and only he could read them because he had a magic seer stone.
02:27:37.000Like, when you look at the actual, you're talking about a guy who we know the guy, right?
02:27:41.000So, Scientology was like, well, so fucking what?
02:27:43.000If you can take that, if you take Mormonism, like, why can't we get tax-exempt status?
02:27:48.000And they said, no, fuck you, you're not a real religion.
02:31:14.000There's a family that owns all the banks.
02:31:15.000No, there is a family that has a considerable amount of money they pass down from generation to generation, and these younger generations have figured out how to not fucking...
02:31:52.000And by the way, if you look at their roots, if you look at the roots of these, a lot of these rumors, a lot of these rumors and conspiracies, they start in the Freemason?
02:32:01.000The Nazi camps and the ultra-right-wing camps and a lot of the anti-Semitic, you know...
02:32:42.000You know, like, what if I believe this?
02:32:44.000Dude, you could be fucking, your kids could be, go to college for free if you just believe this and just, if you just sign off and say you believe it!
02:32:51.000Mike, uh, that's not what's gonna happen.
02:33:39.000Let me say this because I think this is really important.
02:33:41.000One of the problems that I've had, me personally, I've had with any idea is that once I have an original idea or once I start looking at something a certain way, I become married to it.
02:34:53.000So if you hear scientists, they always say, it's so fascinating, scientists start always with doubt.
02:34:58.000And what they do is they always say, if you really corner scientists, they'll say, well, this is the most likely, based on the data I've looked at, or the literature I've read carefully, this is the most likely possibility.
02:35:10.000It's really interesting to hear how they talk that way, because with global warming or anything...
02:35:38.000I got that there's a web, there's an invisible web, and when we come into contact with it, we become mass.
02:35:43.000But we have to understand, as skeptical as we are of this shit, these are the same motherfuckers that put together the Large Hadron Collider.
02:35:49.000They are spinning atoms just slightly under the speed of light, slamming them into each other, and recreating the very instances right after the Big Bang.
02:35:59.000And they're doing that shit right now.
02:36:11.000He was a genius, but you've got to remember that Nikola Tesla lived in a world where he was so far ahead of the curve, and there's very few people that were able to compete with him or even understand what he was doing.
02:36:21.000Okay, do you know that if you go to YouTube and you punch a Nikola Tesla hoax fraud, nothing comes up?
02:38:39.000No, Thomas Edison electrocuted a fucking elephant because he wanted to prove that alternating and direct current, like ACDC, which was Tesla's idea.
02:38:49.000There's video of an elephant being electrocuted, not by Thomas Edison.
02:41:29.000Also, Operation Northwest, he was trying to downplay.
02:41:31.000I'm like, look, man, whether or not you know what happened in any other place, you know the Joint Chiefs of Staff wrote down a memo saying, the plan was to have Guantanamo Bay attacked by Cuban friendlies that were going to give them guns, give them bombs, have them attack American civilians.
02:42:04.000The founding fathers knew that there would always be people within the government that would do anything they could, and so that's where the checks and balances.
02:42:11.000Right, but they don't always go through perfectly.
02:42:13.000That's, I mean, if Nixon was Reagan, Or, I mean, if Kennedy was Reagan or Kennedy was Nixon, he might very well have let that slide.
02:42:25.000I mean, a different person in a different circumstance with a different view of the world could have let the Joint Chiefs of Staff pull that through.
02:42:34.000So the mindset's undeniable that people absolutely do conspire.
02:42:38.000So when you're a guy who never believes in conspiracies, you do just as much damage as a guy who always believes in conspiracies.
02:42:44.000Well, so Alexander Hamilton said that it's not just a king you have to worry about, it's your actual government that's been elected.
02:42:51.000So just because your parliament, he was using parliament as an example, just because parliament was voted in doesn't mean that small group of people will not get power hung.
02:43:17.000But even with those checks and balances, he's still able to cut back the EPA budgets, withdraw us from the Paris Climate Agreement.
02:43:24.000So there's a lot of weird shit that goes on that they didn't anticipate.
02:43:27.000But what they did anticipate, they did put enough checks and balances that's keeping one person from just completely dominating the thing with their ideology.
02:43:38.000They knew that no matter who you are as a human being, whether you're democratically elected or you're divinely elected like the king was in Europe, you are going to take advantage of your power.
02:43:58.000Look at whether it's Libya or look at North Korea or look at it.
02:44:00.000People want to dominate the people around them.
02:44:03.000They've been doing it since the beginning of time.
02:44:05.000If you don't think they're doing it right now, you're fucking crazy.
02:44:07.000The question is, what is the absolute objective Thing that's happening here like the objective view of what's happening here That's where it gets real tricky for all of us whenever we say we know that something's happening when I There's no way you can know and I know that there's no way you can know so now we have a really tainted conversation Because we're not looking at this whole thing honestly whether it whether whether whatever the fuck it is Whether it's aliens or life after death or anything.
02:44:32.000I need to absolutely fucking know that you're being honest and And as soon as I don't think you are, or if I think you're trying to gain power, as soon as you see a politician give some bullshit fucking speech where you know that they're giving this canned cadence,
02:44:48.000this nonsense rhetoric, and you know as soon as they get in that they're gonna give in to the fucking special interest groups.
02:44:54.000It's happened with Trump, it's happened with Bush, it happens with everybody.
02:50:46.000We're going to wrap this up, but I want to say this.
02:50:48.000Sometimes we have these podcasts and shit gets crazy and we get heated and we start smoking pot and we're drinking and there's a wrong impression that some people get that we don't love each other.
02:51:11.000I've had a lot of arguments with my brother and my cousins and stuff, and it's like, you know, you are mad, and you are going back and forth, and I'm like, fuck that.
02:51:19.000You said that, and you said this, but when it's all said and done, man, it's all love.
02:51:31.000I respect everyone in this room's opinion, and I think it's very important, even if you don't agree with someone's opinion, to be confronted by it.
02:51:42.000Because I think if everybody just, look, we've all been around that one person or many people, like especially like old-time celebrities, celebrities that are famous in like the 70s and the 80s and shit when there was no internet, and then they just never felt this need to check themselves.
02:51:57.000You know, they were never informed and I think that one of the best things about having a group of friends like you guys and like all of our comedian friends and I think all of our jujitsu friends too and I think that's one of the things that kind of ties it all together.
02:52:10.000You get a different group of humans who've experienced a lot of weird shit, a different group of...
02:52:18.000and you have a different point of view than me on a lot of shit, whether it's MMA, You and I have had spirited discussions about shit that we agreed or disagreed on the entire time we've been friends.
02:52:37.000And I think that's what's really important.
02:52:39.000I think also the great thing about friendships after you get to be my age anyway and you spend a lot of time with people is that this is getting very...
02:52:45.000I want some violin music, but this is serious.
02:52:59.000You know, where, and I was thinking about this with you, like, you could do pretty much anything, you're never not gonna be my friend no matter what.
02:53:06.000The only thing that would maybe question is if you hurt a child, God forbid, or if you were torturing animals in your basement, then I'd be like, oh, fuck you!
02:54:06.000And the Alex Jones episode is one of the best pieces of evidence that there's some potential opening for some sort of a conspiracy to keep some people down.
02:54:16.000Because the Alex Jones episode, not only did it get more downloads than any podcast we've ever done, ever, but it got more by, like, What, four million?
02:54:25.000The deep state couldn't keep him quiet!
02:54:33.000Look, it could be a catastrophic coincidence, but during the time when the Alex Jones episode went We're running through the charts of our downloads.
02:57:22.000Because this whole time, this whole time, I'm the crazy motherfucker saying all this crazy shit.
02:57:29.000And I go, one of these days, he's been friends with Alex Jones since fucking 1998. He should have been on, Alex Jones should have been on episode three or four or five.