The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion

00:00:03.000 What this episode is, ladies and gentlemen, if you're tuning into this podcast, you go, oh, I'm going to listen to an intellectual discussion.

00:00:09.000 This is going to be fascinating.

00:00:11.000 No.

00:00:11.000 This is four guys sitting around, watching the UFC, and we might get drunk.

00:00:17.000 Okay?

00:00:18.000 Brendan Schaub is here.

00:00:20.000 Brian Callen is here.

00:00:22.000 Aubrey Marcus is here.

00:00:23.000 And I'm here.

00:00:24.000 And what we decided to do is, while the fights are going on, we're in my podcast studio.

00:00:29.000 We figured, fuck it, man.

00:00:30.000 Let's watch the fights with friends.

00:00:32.000 Have a good time.

00:00:33.000 Have a couple of cocktails, a couple of adult beverages.

00:00:36.000 I brought some 2003 Bordeaux.

00:00:39.000 Did you really?

00:00:40.000 Where is that?

00:00:41.000 Let me pour you some.

00:00:43.000 I'll pour it in a real glass.

00:00:44.000 I don't want a real glass.

00:00:45.000 Well, you'll have it.

00:00:47.000 They call me the aristocrat for a reason.

00:00:50.000 Anyway, so if you're looking for a regular podcast, skip out.

00:00:53.000 Look, I got a million of them, but this ain't one of them.

00:00:56.000 This may not ever happen again, but it's happening right now.

00:01:00.000 Schaub and Callan and I talked about doing this for a while.

00:01:03.000 Aubrey just happens to be in town right now, so we're doing it.

00:01:06.000 Right now we're watching the prelims, and no sponsors.

00:01:11.000 Well, we're sponsored by Onnit.

00:01:12.000 Go to Onnit.com, O-N-N-I-T. And get your freak on.

00:01:15.000 Use the code word, Rogan.

00:01:16.000 Still waiting for my kettlebell.

00:01:17.000 Still waiting for you to fucking email me your address, you clown.

00:01:20.000 I texted to you, bro.

00:01:22.000 I told you, email it to me, you fucking clown.

00:01:25.000 I'm not emailing.

00:01:25.000 Did I not tell him?

00:01:26.000 You did.

00:01:27.000 I'm not using email.

00:01:28.000 I told you, email it to me so I can email it to Aubrey.

00:01:32.000 Oh yeah, I'll get right on that.

00:01:34.000 I can't get my best friend.

00:01:36.000 Like everything else.

00:01:36.000 All I want is a piece of iron.

00:01:37.000 It's so hard.

00:01:38.000 It's so hard to email people.

00:01:40.000 One piece of iron.

00:01:41.000 Impossible!

00:01:42.000 One piece of iron for my best friend.

00:01:44.000 Write it down on that little yellow pad there.

00:01:45.000 I just want to do kettlebell workouts.

00:01:47.000 He doesn't care about my piece of paper.

00:01:48.000 You should have seen Brian trying to pull back a 90-pound bow the other day.

00:01:51.000 It was one of the saddest things I've ever seen in my life.

00:01:54.000 He tells me it's all in the technique.

00:01:57.000 Oh, it is.

00:01:58.000 It's all in the technique of lifting weights for many years.

00:02:02.000 Shut up.

00:02:02.000 It's all in the technique of being a man.

00:02:04.000 I wasn't warmed up.

00:02:05.000 It was so sad.

00:02:06.000 It was so sad.

00:02:07.000 My back was like a barrel of snacks.

00:02:08.000 Anyway, he needs kettlebells, Aubrey.

00:02:10.000 He needs a lot of things, but kettlebells are also on the main.

00:02:12.000 I don't know if he wants one.

00:02:13.000 He won't give us the idea.

00:02:14.000 I want the chip!

00:02:15.000 Maybe he doesn't want it.

00:02:16.000 No!

00:02:16.000 No, man!

00:02:17.000 Maybe if he has it, he'll look at it.

00:02:18.000 Let's see what we got here today.

00:02:20.000 The main fights.

00:02:21.000 Costa Filippo is a good fight versus Lorenz Larkin.

00:02:24.000 That's the co-main.

00:02:25.000 Eric Koch is fighting on this card as well.

00:02:28.000 Let me pull it up on UFC.com.

00:02:30.000 UFC.com is a very good website.

00:02:33.000 But the UFC app?

00:02:35.000 Boy, does that suck a fat one.

00:02:37.000 That is a fucking terrible app.

00:02:39.000 Whoever made that app, how dare you?

00:02:41.000 Coach versus Crookshank, it will be the final night.

00:02:44.000 That's a very good fight.

00:02:46.000 Eric Koch versus Darren Crookshank is a very good fight.

00:02:49.000 And Crookshank, who's his last opponent?

00:02:52.000 He's so fun to watch, man.

00:02:53.000 Oh yeah, no shit, man.

00:02:55.000 Darren is a Taekwondo guy originally.

00:02:59.000 He's got wild ass fucking kicks.

00:03:01.000 But he's also putting together the rest of his game now.

00:03:05.000 You might have the best nickname in sports.

00:03:07.000 What is it?

00:03:07.000 The Detroit Superstar?

00:03:09.000 What?

00:03:10.000 What?

00:03:11.000 It's a little long.

00:03:12.000 No, it's dope, man.

00:03:13.000 Nicknames should be shorter.

00:03:13.000 And his style is sick.

00:03:15.000 I don't know.

00:03:15.000 Uncle Creepy.

00:03:16.000 I think Uncle Creepy takes it for me.

00:03:17.000 That's pretty good.

00:03:18.000 A little creepy.

00:03:19.000 The Detroit Superstar.

00:03:21.000 It's not a bad nickname.

00:03:21.000 What would my name be if I was a fighter?

00:03:23.000 Brian the Irritable.

00:03:25.000 The Irritable?

00:03:27.000 Brian the Grumpy.

00:03:28.000 You wouldn't have a nickname, bro.

00:03:28.000 When he doesn't eat, he gets Grumpy Callan.

00:03:31.000 You really wouldn't have a nickname.

00:03:33.000 No?

00:03:33.000 No.

00:03:33.000 What do you mean?

00:03:34.000 I need a nickname.

00:03:35.000 No.

00:03:35.000 You'd be the kid.

00:03:36.000 No.

00:03:37.000 What about this?

00:03:37.000 How about this?

00:03:38.000 How about this?

00:03:38.000 Brian, Brendan, Schaub, Gallen!

00:03:41.000 Mike Rio was the last fight.

00:03:44.000 God damn, that was a good fight.

00:03:46.000 In the Mike Rio fight, Darren Cruikshank was on fire.

00:03:50.000 Is that where he went?

00:03:50.000 Kicks, right?

00:03:51.000 He was landing a lot of kicks.

00:03:52.000 He was landing everything.

00:03:53.000 He just looked sensational.

00:03:55.000 Nuts.

00:03:55.000 And Koch's a bad motherfucker, dude.

00:03:57.000 Koch, he's a very talented kid.

00:04:00.000 I mean, he lost to Poirier, but then he came back and beat Rafael Oliveira.

00:04:06.000 He lost two, right?

00:04:07.000 He lost to Poirier and then he lost to...

00:04:09.000 Lost to Ricardo Lamas before that.

00:04:11.000 That's right.

00:04:11.000 Back to back.

00:04:11.000 Yeah.

00:04:12.000 But two tough fucking guys.

00:04:14.000 Two really tough guys.

00:04:15.000 Why did you pour this in the glass?

00:04:16.000 You made sure you poured it in the glass.

00:04:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:18.000 Will it taste better in a glass than a warm coffee mug?

00:04:20.000 Yes, it does.

00:04:20.000 The bouquet.

00:04:21.000 Shut up!

00:04:22.000 The bouquet.

00:04:22.000 Shut your mouth!

00:04:23.000 Bring it to your nose.

00:04:24.000 Shut your fucking mouth!

00:04:24.000 Take it into your mouth.

00:04:26.000 It's an experience.

00:04:27.000 Eddie Wineland lost today.

00:04:28.000 I know.

00:04:29.000 Got knocked out by this kid who hasn't fought in two years.

00:04:32.000 First round.

00:04:32.000 I believe it was the second round.

00:04:34.000 I think it was the end of the first.

00:04:35.000 Could be.

00:04:35.000 Am I crazy?

00:04:36.000 It might have been.

00:04:37.000 I was watching it while I was working out, so you might be right.

00:04:39.000 Who was the guy I lost to?

00:04:40.000 I'll tell you right now.

00:04:42.000 I have a computer.

00:04:44.000 But Wineland, I mean, coming off of a title fight, right?

00:04:48.000 You know, comes off of that fight, then looks sensational.

00:04:51.000 In his next fight, he fights...

00:04:54.000 Did he just get caught?

00:04:55.000 He fought Eve JoBoin, stopped him, and looked fucking sensational.

00:04:58.000 No, he fights in a weird way.

00:05:01.000 Wineland never lifts his hands above his nipples.

00:05:05.000 Aggressive, too.

00:05:06.000 Super aggressive, super strong.

00:05:07.000 I mean, he's a really good fighter.

00:05:08.000 He moves his head a lot.

00:05:10.000 He's got a lot of feints, and he gets away with it.

00:05:12.000 And the punches come from all kinds of crazy angles because his hands are low, but that's never a good style.

00:05:17.000 It's just never a good style.

00:05:18.000 Keeping your fucking hands low is never good.

00:05:20.000 And this kid cracked him, Johnny Eduardo.

00:05:22.000 Cracked him with the right hand in the first round.

00:05:26.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:05:27.000 Round one.

00:05:27.000 Four minutes, 37 seconds in round one.

00:05:30.000 Caught him with a right hand earlier in the round, and then stunned him with one about four minutes, 20 in, and then followed up with another one and dropped him, and his legs just completely gave out.

00:05:41.000 Eddie's always that guy who's one away from a title.

00:05:43.000 Just in that weight class, he's always right there.

00:05:46.000 One big win, he's there.

00:05:48.000 Coming off that Yves Jobway fight, where he looked fucking sensation.

00:05:51.000 And Jobway's a bad motherfucker, dude.

00:05:53.000 That was a really good fight.

00:05:55.000 And Eddie, what, ranked number four, I think?

00:05:57.000 Yeah, number four.

00:05:58.000 One win, he's close.

00:05:59.000 Exactly.

00:05:59.000 He's number four.

00:06:00.000 He takes this fight against an unheralded guy who hasn't fought in over two years.

00:06:05.000 This kid hadn't fought in, I think it was something crazy, like 700 days.

00:06:10.000 God, seven, oh my god.

00:06:13.000 Man, top...

00:06:16.000 That's where it doesn't pay to take fights like this.

00:06:18.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:06:18.000 You're right.

00:06:19.000 Well, a lot of guys sit out, and people give them a hard time, and they say, oh, fighters fight, but you know what, man?

00:06:24.000 It's not like that, man.

00:06:24.000 It's a business.

00:06:25.000 You should have a manager.

00:06:27.000 Listen, UFC asked me to fight, I take it.

00:06:29.000 But at the same time, too, you want to fight the highest-ranked guy, the most famous guy possible.

00:06:35.000 That's all anyone cares about, man, the highest-ranked guy.

00:06:37.000 Who have you ever turned down and why?

00:06:42.000 Man, the only fight I ever turned down, it was once, I don't remember his name.

00:06:48.000 Huge guy.

00:06:50.000 Grappler, Abu Dhabi, fought Pee Wee Herman, lost to Pee Wee Herman, fight of the night.

00:06:55.000 You know what I'm talking about?

00:06:56.000 Yeah, I do.

00:06:56.000 He retired?

00:06:58.000 Enormous dude.

00:06:59.000 God damn it.

00:07:00.000 Okay, let's Dave Herman pull that up.

00:07:03.000 The Rock?

00:07:05.000 He really sweats a lot?

00:07:07.000 Is that the guy?

00:07:08.000 This guy sweats a lot.

00:07:09.000 This guy sweats a lot?

00:07:10.000 Man, I forget his name.

00:07:12.000 Like super muscular?

00:07:13.000 And my manager called me with the fight and I was like...

00:07:18.000 Oh, John Olive Inamo.

00:07:20.000 Inamo.

00:07:21.000 So they called me with the fight and I just got off fighting Noguera.

00:07:26.000 So I'm not going to go Noguera Inamo.

00:07:29.000 I was just like, no man, not happening.

00:07:31.000 And my manager was like, well, let's see what they come with.

00:07:34.000 I said, alright, well if it's a do or die, I'll take it.

00:07:37.000 Let's do it.

00:07:37.000 I'll destroy this guy.

00:07:38.000 And then they came up with a different opponent.

00:07:40.000 Came up with Rothwell.

00:07:41.000 But that's the only fight where I was like, eh, I don't think so, man.

00:07:45.000 The only time.

00:07:46.000 Yeah, it's a tricky thing, right?

00:07:48.000 Like when you want to take a fight, if you need a fight, if you need the money you want to take a fight...

00:07:55.000 But if you're in a situation where they offer you something dangerous on two weeks' notice, sometimes cards fall apart and they try to pull that card together.

00:08:03.000 They're making a bunch of calls this week to try to get someone to fight Vitor in Brazil because Junior Dos Santos just broke his hand.

00:08:10.000 Junior Dos Santos is supposed to fight Stipe Miocic.

00:08:13.000 He broke his hand.

00:08:16.000 Miocic is now going to fight Fabio Maldonado, who's a 205er who's fat at 205. True.

00:08:25.000 And now he's stepping up to fight heavyweight, and Stipe Miocic is a top-ten guy, so it's kind of a crazy matchup that probably wouldn't be approved in the States.

00:08:34.000 I agree, and I also heard that you can get your money back.

00:08:38.000 Wait, why wouldn't that fight be approved in the States?

00:08:41.000 Is it a 205er fighting a top 10 heavyweight?

00:08:44.000 So there's a commission that says that's just too much of a mismatch?

00:08:46.000 Well, not even a 205er.

00:08:48.000 A 205er that's been zombied.

00:08:50.000 He's been beaten senseless by a bunch of guys.

00:08:52.000 He's a tough motherfucker.

00:08:54.000 He's as tough as they come.

00:08:55.000 Fabio Maldonado is so tough that you've got to watch out for him if he fights a big guy because you've got to go, God, this guy takes so much punishment.

00:09:01.000 He's so fucking tough.

00:09:03.000 You've got to almost protect him from himself.

00:09:05.000 On the other end, though, I can see because Stipe has, in the past, don't get me wrong, Stipe's a beast.

00:09:11.000 He used to be a training partner of mine.

00:09:12.000 Super freak, too.

00:09:13.000 Athlete, too.

00:09:14.000 Monster.

00:09:15.000 However, when he fought Struve, he kind of gassed out and got knocked out, correct?

00:09:19.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:19.000 Now...

00:09:20.000 In this fight, I mean, the cardio could be an issue.

00:09:24.000 And Fabiano boxing is really, really good.

00:09:28.000 Plus, he's got the most rabid fans in the world driving him.

00:09:31.000 That's true.

00:09:32.000 We watched him in Brazil.

00:09:34.000 Yeah.

00:09:34.000 And they'd go crazy for Fabio Maldonado.

00:09:36.000 Well, Maldonado is just as tough as fuck.

00:09:38.000 He's the hero.

00:09:39.000 He's tough as fuck, man.

00:09:40.000 And he's probably one of the best body punchers in the sport.

00:09:42.000 My concern would just be the size, just the sheer size difference.

00:09:46.000 What, does St. Pierre walk around at 230?

00:09:49.000 So who's this right now?

00:09:51.000 Who's fighting right now?

00:09:51.000 Jamie, give us some volume so we can at least hear it.

00:09:54.000 Hearing it is fine.

00:09:55.000 Chris Cariasso and who's he fighting though?

00:09:57.000 Give us some volume.

00:10:00.000 Bruce Buffer with the official introduction.

00:10:02.000 The coolest fucking thing is watching Bruce Buffer introduce fighters in Brazil.

00:10:08.000 Because everybody together goes, It's time!

00:10:13.000 15,000 people will be doing it in sync.

00:10:17.000 No way!

00:10:18.000 It's amazing.

00:10:19.000 It's one of the coolest things ever.

00:10:21.000 He's actually great.

00:10:22.000 He's got that great voice.

00:10:23.000 Bruce Buffer's the best.

00:10:25.000 He really is.

00:10:26.000 He's the best.

00:10:27.000 The best.

00:10:28.000 Bruce Buffer, I've seen him at Gold's Gym.

00:10:30.000 I work out there in the off-season.

00:10:31.000 I saw him in Gold's Gym, on the cable machine, doing the Bruce...

00:10:36.000 What was it?

00:10:37.000 The 180 turn?

00:10:38.000 No!

00:10:38.000 He works it out.

00:10:40.000 Bruce!

00:10:43.000 It's so explosive!

00:10:44.000 I didn't see him, and I'm walking through the gym, I hear...

00:10:47.000 Hybrid!

00:10:48.000 In front of everyone?

00:10:49.000 I was so embarrassed.

00:10:51.000 So embarrassed.

00:10:52.000 Oh, that's funny.

00:10:54.000 He's good, though.

00:10:55.000 He doesn't have a card with him or anything.

00:10:57.000 He just remembers it all.

00:10:59.000 That's not true at all.

00:11:00.000 He has a card constantly.

00:11:01.000 He throws the cards on the ground.

00:11:02.000 What are you talking about?

00:11:03.000 He reads off the cards.

00:11:04.000 He throws the cards on the ground when he's done.

00:11:06.000 Oh, really?

00:11:07.000 Fucking jackass.

00:11:08.000 Get your facts right.

00:11:09.000 I was talking about The Rock again.

00:11:11.000 Shit.

00:11:12.000 By the way, all you cunts that get mad at me for giving Brian a hard time, do you know I'd love this motherfucker like a brother?

00:11:18.000 And I would give him a hard time if it was a podcast or no podcast.

00:11:21.000 Exactly.

00:11:22.000 That's how friends hang with each other.

00:11:23.000 People get sensitive for me.

00:11:24.000 Thank you, everybody.

00:11:25.000 It's fun.

00:11:25.000 Thank you, America.

00:11:26.000 Thank you for standing up for me.

00:11:28.000 And by the way, he'll do that to me, too.

00:11:29.000 Correct.

00:11:29.000 Okay?

00:11:30.000 That's what friends are all about.

00:11:31.000 Just not on the podcast.

00:11:32.000 This is the Joe Rogan podcast.

00:11:33.000 I just don't have as many weaknesses as him, so it's more difficult to find holes.

00:11:37.000 Less openings?

00:11:37.000 But if he finds holes in my game, he will chip at them.

00:11:40.000 That's exactly right.

00:11:40.000 That's one of the things that friends are for.

00:11:42.000 I like the USA Judo sponsorship.

00:11:45.000 Keep each other honest.

00:11:45.000 We've got a good friend.

00:11:46.000 It's about time they jump on board.

00:11:48.000 What's that?

00:11:48.000 USA Judo jumping on board.

00:11:50.000 Is that an official sponsorship?

00:11:51.000 And USA Wrestling jump on, yeah.

00:11:52.000 Well, USA Wrestling's been on for a while.

00:11:54.000 Yeah, it is.

00:11:56.000 Hey, Brendan, I feel like when you kick to the body with the top of your foot...

00:12:02.000 Man, these guys are fighting!

00:12:03.000 He did say that last time I watched a fight with them.

00:12:05.000 But when you kick to the body with the top of your foot, I always feel like that's so risky because you could break the top of your foot so easily.

00:12:10.000 Oh, shut the fuck up.

00:12:12.000 Hey, man!

00:12:13.000 Hey, man, we're talking Taekwondo.

00:12:15.000 No, well, you know, I broke the top of my foot many times on elbows.

00:12:18.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

00:12:19.000 Elbows.

00:12:19.000 That's what you've got to be most concerned about.

00:12:20.000 You've got to be scared.

00:12:21.000 Yeah, but look, obviously you can break your fucking shins.

00:12:24.000 You can break everything.

00:12:25.000 Yeah, mine are lightning fast because I go up and then I kick.

00:12:28.000 You see Tyrone Spong break his leg against fucking Gokhan Saki?

00:12:31.000 Holy shit.

00:12:31.000 No, I didn't see that.

00:12:32.000 It's weird seeing a high-level kickboxer do that.

00:12:34.000 It's super rare.

00:12:36.000 I agree, but to me it's surprising not more guys break their legs.

00:12:39.000 Yeah, it is.

00:12:39.000 What's weird is like this rash of broken legs.

00:12:42.000 You know, Anderson Silva, Tyrone Spong.

00:12:44.000 I saw Anderson Silva last week looking pretty good, moving pretty good.

00:12:47.000 Yeah.

00:12:48.000 Well, Tyrone Spong is only four weeks out, I think.

00:12:51.000 Yeah.

00:12:51.000 He's already walking.

00:12:52.000 Yeah.

00:12:53.000 He's walking on a treadmill, no cast, no nothing.

00:12:56.000 Got a bolt in there.

00:12:57.000 What they do now, back in the day when you break your femur or break your bone in half like that, they would keep you off it.

00:13:03.000 What they do now is within 12 hours, 24 hours, they try to get you walking on it immediately.

00:13:07.000 And the reason for that, they'll set it and have you actually start putting pressure on it.

00:13:11.000 Because what they found is that you heal faster because your body rushes calcium to that part of the bone.

00:13:16.000 Isn't that weird?

00:13:17.000 That is weird.

00:13:17.000 Within 12 hours?

00:13:18.000 Yeah, 12 hours.

00:13:20.000 How can you walk in a broken leg in 12 hours?

00:13:22.000 Well, obviously, you don't put a lot of pressure, but when they break their femur skiers, they got those guys on their feet as soon as possible, because apparently, you know, you'd heal much faster.

00:13:32.000 Wow.

00:13:33.000 Yeah.

00:13:34.000 So, Cariasso, he's a wild motherfucker, man.

00:13:37.000 I love watching that kid fight.

00:13:38.000 Me too.

00:13:39.000 And now that he's...

00:13:40.000 This is 125, right?

00:13:41.000 These guys are fighting at 125, are they not?

00:13:43.000 No.

00:13:44.000 Flyweight.

00:13:45.000 Yeah, 125. Because he fought at 135 for the longest time, and he was kind of undersized.

00:13:50.000 I'm glad they have that.

00:13:51.000 You know, they're thinking about doing a strawweight, a 115. For guys?

00:13:54.000 For women's, obviously, they are.

00:13:55.000 But for guys, they are?

00:13:57.000 Strawweight.

00:13:59.000 Man, that is a small dude.

00:14:00.000 That's a small dude.

00:14:01.000 Right?

00:14:02.000 That would be such a nightmare to fight that guy because he'd probably still win and he's so small.

00:14:06.000 Dude, I boxed with that guy Wayne McCullough.

00:14:08.000 He'd light you up if you tried to fight him.

00:14:10.000 I know.

00:14:10.000 Are you kidding me?

00:14:10.000 It's the worst thing ever.

00:14:11.000 It just takes so much longer.

00:14:12.000 119. Ugh.

00:14:14.000 What's like Kenny Florin?

00:14:15.000 You see Kenny Florin in a bar?

00:14:16.000 Probably going to pick on him.

00:14:18.000 Dresses like a hipster.

00:14:19.000 One of the baddest dudes on the planet.

00:14:21.000 But both my head and your head would fit in Kenny's head.

00:14:23.000 He's got a giant head.

00:14:24.000 Big head.

00:14:25.000 Nice set of hair, huge head.

00:14:26.000 When I first saw him in person, I went, that can't be Kenny Florian.

00:14:29.000 That's the biggest head I've ever seen on that gentleman.

00:14:33.000 I wonder if there's a real direct correlation between taking a punch and having a big head.

00:14:38.000 I always joke around about it and talk about it in podcasts.

00:14:41.000 I feel like there is.

00:14:42.000 Well, boxing trainers, I think Emmanuel Stewart said that they look for, when trainers are looking for boxers, they look for a wide face and a short neck.

00:14:49.000 Well, look at David Tua.

00:14:50.000 Who took a punch better than that guy?

00:14:52.000 Look at Roy Nelson.

00:14:53.000 Look at Mark Hunt.

00:14:54.000 Roy Nelson.

00:14:55.000 Yeah.

00:14:56.000 Yeah, and there's some guys that just, like Tommy Hearns, always had a hard time taking a punch, just has that narrow face, and there's nothing you can do about that.

00:15:04.000 Just, it is what it is.

00:15:07.000 We want to talk about a guy who's been in some fucking wars.

00:15:10.000 Tommy Hearns.

00:15:11.000 I was watching some Tommy Hearns fights the other day on YouTube.

00:15:14.000 That jab.

00:15:15.000 How about when he knocked out Duran?

00:15:17.000 Dude.

00:15:18.000 He knocked Duran dead.

00:15:19.000 And he fought at 47, which I can't believe.

00:15:22.000 Mm-hmm.

00:15:23.000 Yeah, well, he fought as high as light heavyweight, I believe.

00:15:27.000 He lost to Iran Barkley.

00:15:29.000 I think that was at 168. I'm not sure.

00:15:31.000 You know what's interesting about this fight is usually you have to have...

00:15:36.000 So, for instance, homeboy in the cage has red shorts.

00:15:39.000 Cariasso.

00:15:40.000 Yes.

00:15:40.000 And the other guy has black and red shorts.

00:15:42.000 Right.

00:15:42.000 Both similar shorts.

00:15:43.000 Usually you have to be complete opposite shorts.

00:15:46.000 They force you to do that.

00:15:47.000 Yeah, it's just the bottom of the trim, though.

00:15:50.000 It's pretty obvious, isn't it?

00:15:51.000 You think?

00:15:52.000 I'd say they're pretty damn close.

00:15:53.000 Is he a judoka, this guy, the guy, um, um, what's his career?

00:15:56.000 Smoka?

00:15:56.000 Well, Kariasso, no, he's a Muay Thai guy.

00:15:59.000 Brian's caught on using that term lately.

00:16:01.000 He's trying.

00:16:01.000 Judoka?

00:16:02.000 Judoka.

00:16:02.000 First of all, first of all, it's my favorite word.

00:16:04.000 It's my favorite word.

00:16:05.000 Don't let Ronda tell him some moves.

00:16:07.000 It's my favorite word, though.

00:16:09.000 Harigoshi.

00:16:09.000 Oh, shit, look at this.

00:16:10.000 Oh, boy.

00:16:11.000 That's tight.

00:16:12.000 Nope.

00:16:13.000 Lost the position.

00:16:14.000 Better let go of that guillotine.

00:16:15.000 A lot of guys have been catching that Von Flu choke.

00:16:18.000 Yeah, man, because they hang under the guillotine.

00:16:19.000 Look at this.

00:16:20.000 He gets for it again.

00:16:21.000 He's not under the chin, though.

00:16:22.000 He's just neck cranking him.

00:16:25.000 Nice.

00:16:26.000 Nice finish at the end of the round.

00:16:27.000 Scrappy end of the round.

00:16:28.000 Yeah, a lot of guys hang onto that guillotine, and then all the guy's doing is taking them down, passing side control, and you can't get your glove out.

00:16:37.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:16:38.000 You can't get your glove out.

00:16:39.000 So then you have a choke there.

00:16:40.000 You're just ramming your shoulder into the artery, and they can't get it out.

00:16:44.000 It's called the Von Flu Choke.

00:16:46.000 That's what everybody calls it.

00:16:48.000 Someone just had a big finish with that recently.

00:16:50.000 Yeah, Ovin St. Preux.

00:16:52.000 Ovin St. Preux.

00:16:53.000 Against Al Capone.

00:16:54.000 Yeah.

00:16:55.000 A guy who was fighting at heavyweight most of his career.

00:16:57.000 Really undersized heavyweight.

00:16:59.000 One of the smallest heavyweights ever.

00:17:01.000 Yeah, he's fighting Cody Donovan in Dublin now.

00:17:05.000 OSP is?

00:17:06.000 No, Al Capone at 205. Interesting.

00:17:10.000 That Von Flu choke, you very rarely see in Jiu Jitsu though.

00:17:15.000 That's what's interesting about it.

00:17:17.000 A good Jiu Jitsu guy is not going to hang on to that.

00:17:19.000 He's just not.

00:17:21.000 They're not going to waste their energy.

00:17:22.000 A high level Jiu Jitsu guy is not going to waste his energy on that.

00:17:24.000 It's a guy who's kind of panicking in a fight.

00:17:27.000 Panicking in a fight, gets taken down and doesn't want the guy to posture so he holds on to the guillotine.

00:17:32.000 And then when your glove's caught in there, you're screwed, man.

00:17:35.000 It's a lot of pressure.

00:17:36.000 I mean, I'm sure you felt it.

00:17:38.000 But with a glove on it, it's a different story.

00:17:39.000 When you're stuck, it's like, dang.

00:17:41.000 Yeah, when a guy really knows how to put that weight on it, too.

00:17:44.000 He's got a good side control.

00:17:45.000 He knows how to pin you down and force that shoulder into your neck.

00:17:48.000 Yeah, you go to sleep.

00:17:49.000 Some guys can fuck you up just head-to-arm control when they're passing your guard.

00:17:53.000 I agree.

00:17:53.000 There's different kinds of pressure.

00:17:55.000 There's wrestler pressure.

00:17:56.000 There's some guys who get on top of you.

00:17:58.000 They just...

00:17:58.000 They know how to put all their weight on a very small point.

00:18:02.000 There's some guys who get side control on you, but they're laying on their knees.

00:18:06.000 And even if their side control is solid, if you can't get out of it, you're not hurting.

00:18:10.000 You're not in pain.

00:18:11.000 And then there's other motherfuckers that will have all of their weight on the left side of their chest.

00:18:17.000 And they'll put side control on you and just...

00:18:19.000 I wear you like a glove.

00:18:21.000 It's a science.

00:18:22.000 It really is.

00:18:23.000 It's a balance.

00:18:24.000 I'm still working on it.

00:18:25.000 It's hard, man.

00:18:26.000 It's hard.

00:18:26.000 And it's interesting because I have like a nasty twister side control on the right side.

00:18:32.000 But then when I do it on the left side, it feels alien.

00:18:34.000 Because I never go to it on the left side.

00:18:36.000 I have some positions like that.

00:18:37.000 It's weird.

00:18:37.000 You would think that this is a position I know in my head inside and out.

00:18:41.000 It's not that complex a position.

00:18:42.000 But on the right side, BAM! It's like a fucking...

00:18:45.000 Money.

00:18:45.000 It's like a clamp.

00:18:47.000 Bang!

00:18:47.000 It's like locked in place.

00:18:48.000 Yeah.

00:18:49.000 But on the other side, I'm like moving too much and I'm slippery.

00:18:53.000 I wish people could see Joe because he's actually moving around in his chair.

00:18:56.000 Wiggling.

00:18:57.000 I'm a wiggler.

00:18:58.000 He's a wiggler in this corner.

00:19:00.000 The wiggler.

00:19:01.000 I'm a wiggler, Brian Callen.

00:19:03.000 Brian Callen.

00:19:04.000 I'm a wiggler.

00:19:05.000 Are you ever going to go back to jiu-jitsu?

00:19:07.000 I think I'd like to.

00:19:08.000 He's talking about on the ride down here.

00:19:10.000 I miss it a lot.

00:19:10.000 And then he goes, well, everyone has neck problems who does jujitsu.

00:19:13.000 That is true.

00:19:14.000 A lot of people do.

00:19:14.000 I don't.

00:19:14.000 Knock on wood, I feel great.

00:19:15.000 But you're a big guy.

00:19:16.000 Yeah.

00:19:17.000 The real problem is rolling with big guys.

00:19:19.000 Don't roll with big guys.

00:19:21.000 Getting stacked.

00:19:21.000 Getting stacked is a big problem.

00:19:23.000 And exploding, trying to explode from the bottom.

00:19:25.000 A lot of times guys get injured doing that.

00:19:27.000 You just gotta be smart, Brian.

00:19:29.000 You're not trying to win Abu Dhabi.

00:19:30.000 Yes, I am.

00:19:30.000 Just grapple with girls only.

00:19:33.000 When Brian and I first met each other, I brought him to Carlson Gracie's and he started working out with Sergio Cohen, who's one of Carlson Gracie's black belts.

00:19:41.000 And he grabbed Sergio's neck, clawed his neck.

00:19:48.000 Sergio head-butted him in his nose and broke his nose and just smushed him like a bug.

00:19:53.000 Because I was actually, I went in there like thinking as a wrestler I was going to take these, I was taking like people down because they don't care about that.

00:20:00.000 Let me clarify, this is not what happened.

00:20:03.000 He just got aggressive and douchey with a guy who was a big, juiced up, crossing, racing black belt.

00:20:10.000 I would pay money for that.

00:20:12.000 He's a big guy too.

00:20:13.000 I'd pay money to watch that.

00:20:14.000 Yeah, I didn't have any respect because I thought, ah, this is the wrestling, it's just bad wrestling.

00:20:17.000 I didn't know.

00:20:18.000 So ridiculous.

00:20:19.000 I love it.

00:20:20.000 You're that meathead who's going all hard.

00:20:21.000 I I was just taking...

00:20:22.000 I would like...

00:20:23.000 Other white belts and other blue belts who'd never done any wrestling, so I'd be taking them down.

00:20:28.000 And then I go with Sergio, who decides to go, let's do some...

00:20:31.000 You want to go take downs?

00:20:33.000 And he grabs me, and I was like, oh, well, that's a bear.

00:20:35.000 He was so much bigger than him.

00:20:37.000 Okay, now we're back to Fox Sports 1, everybody.

00:20:40.000 The fights were on Fox Sports 2, and then what happened?

00:20:44.000 The baseball game was over.

00:20:45.000 We'll get back to my fight.

00:20:47.000 They got off that bullshit baseball game.

00:20:48.000 What was it, 9-0?

00:20:51.000 Baseball.

00:20:51.000 If they invented baseball today, people would spit in your face if you tried to sell it to them.

00:20:55.000 I agree.

00:20:56.000 If you tried pitching to everyone, I'd be like, what?

00:20:58.000 I got a game.

00:20:59.000 It could take forever.

00:21:02.000 Like, fucking cricket.

00:21:04.000 Imagine trying to pitch cricket.

00:21:06.000 Oh my god.

00:21:07.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:21:07.000 Why is he throwing the ball like that?

00:21:08.000 What is he doing?

00:21:09.000 Why does he have a paddle?

00:21:10.000 Bend your arm!

00:21:11.000 Hold on.

00:21:12.000 He has a paddle?

00:21:13.000 The other guy has a paddle.

00:21:14.000 And why is this game lasting three days?

00:21:16.000 Three fucking days.

00:21:17.000 You can just nick it and make it go backwards and win?

00:21:19.000 The game lasts three days.

00:21:20.000 And there is absolutely no satisfaction even if you whack the ball hard.

00:21:24.000 And guess what?

00:21:24.000 In baseball, if you hit the ball three out of ten times, you're in the Hall of Fame.

00:21:29.000 Yep.

00:21:29.000 Three out of ten.

00:21:30.000 Guess what?

00:21:31.000 In the UFC, you win three out of ten fights?

00:21:33.000 You don't have a job.

00:21:34.000 You're going home.

00:21:34.000 That's a great way to put it.

00:21:35.000 Three out of ten times.

00:21:36.000 Three out of ten.

00:21:37.000 You're in the Hall of Fame.

00:21:41.000 Cariasso throws a very deceptive head kick, too.

00:21:43.000 He hides his head kicks well.

00:21:45.000 He'll sneak him over the outside of shoulders, like the right outside.

00:21:48.000 Like right over the jab.

00:21:49.000 Did you see this fucking Deontay Wilder thing?

00:21:52.000 Yes!

00:21:52.000 Where he beat the fuck out of the internet troll.

00:21:54.000 Classic!

00:21:55.000 The guy he fought, first of all, that guy, the troll, is insane.

00:21:59.000 Like, clinically, something's wrong with him.

00:22:01.000 Like, he's bipolar or something.

00:22:05.000 We're good to go.

00:22:24.000 That made me laugh, dude.

00:22:26.000 I know.

00:22:26.000 He's got that deep.

00:22:29.000 He's going to sleep.

00:22:30.000 He's got a power guillotine.

00:22:31.000 He's going to sleep.

00:22:31.000 Oh, he's trying to get out of it.

00:22:32.000 That's a good way to get out of it.

00:22:34.000 Guys do get out of it that way.

00:22:35.000 Just drop into their back.

00:22:38.000 That right there, that's how you hurt your neck.

00:22:42.000 My fucking neck has gotten hurt so many times because I didn't tap, and I'm like, I'm not tapping, I'm not tapping.

00:22:50.000 Meanwhile, your neck is ruined for weeks.

00:22:52.000 I don't have that ego.

00:22:54.000 If I'm going with another UFC heavyweight, if we're training together, I'm not tapping.

00:22:59.000 I don't have that ego.

00:23:01.000 However, if I'm at the Grace Academy, man, I don't care.

00:23:06.000 I do not care.

00:23:07.000 The idea is that you shouldn't have been in that position in the first place.

00:23:10.000 You know how to defend it.

00:23:11.000 You're going to learn from it.

00:23:12.000 In UFC, if you're a heavyweight, you have to be under 260, right?

00:23:16.000 265. Okay, 265. Somebody's saying that there is a number.

00:23:21.000 There's a perfect weight for a heavyweight.

00:23:23.000 240. 240?

00:23:24.000 Yeah, that's where the best guys seem to lie.

00:23:27.000 Even if you made the weight class 300 and you had a 300-pound guy, you get destroyed.

00:23:32.000 Well, the difference is in boxing, it's a little lighter because you don't get a guy to weigh on you.

00:23:38.000 You have to deal with the fact that you're moving body weight around.

00:23:41.000 There's a different weight.

00:23:42.000 In my opinion, Mike Tyson is prime.

00:23:46.000 The Mike Tyson of the 85, Mike Tyson, that range.

00:23:50.000 I think he's the greatest heavyweight of all time.

00:23:52.000 That's my opinion.

00:23:53.000 Just a lot of other people have opinions.

00:23:55.000 But I think the Mike Tyson that destroyed Marvis Frazier, the Mike Tyson that knocked out Larry Holmes.

00:23:59.000 About 220. 220 maybe, 218. Crazy speed and power.

00:24:04.000 Just motherfucking guys.

00:24:06.000 Just motherfucking them.

00:24:07.000 But I don't think you could get away with that as a UFC fighter.

00:24:11.000 I don't think...

00:24:11.000 And boxing, by the way, doesn't even have a fucking weight limit.

00:24:14.000 Because he would have been what?

00:24:15.000 Too small to handle a big guy on top of them.

00:24:18.000 You know, a guy like Kane takes you down, lays on you, and starts breathing.

00:24:21.000 Or you got a guy like Bigfoot who's cutting from.300, man.

00:24:23.000 You're talking about a different game.

00:24:25.000 It's always funny to me, and granted, listen, cutting weight, I'm sure, is horrendous.

00:24:29.000 I've cut from.250 to.225 for Metamorris, and it was tough, but not like these guys, you know, making.155,.145.

00:24:36.000 But we'll be at the weigh-ins, and nothing drives me more crazy.

00:24:39.000 Everyone goes, God.

00:24:41.000 Wish I was a heavyweight.

00:24:43.000 Everyone tells that to me.

00:24:44.000 Wish I was a heavyweight.

00:24:45.000 Oh, do you?

00:24:47.000 Oh, really?

00:24:50.000 That's cool.

00:24:51.000 You're fighting a guy at 155, right?

00:24:53.000 That's cool.

00:24:54.000 Because I weigh 238. The guy I'm fighting is 265. I'm scared shitless.

00:25:00.000 He has 25 pounds on me.

00:25:01.000 That's a lot of weight.

00:25:02.000 That's a lot of weight.

00:25:04.000 I think of 25 steaks.

00:25:05.000 It's two different weight classes almost.

00:25:06.000 25, man.

00:25:07.000 Yeah.

00:25:07.000 25 with 16 ounce bones stacked on top of each other.

00:25:12.000 And then that drops in your head.

00:25:13.000 Just that.

00:25:14.000 Is that two weight classes?

00:25:15.000 Pretty much.

00:25:16.000 There's no other division like that.

00:25:18.000 There's nothing like that.

00:25:19.000 This guy keeps giving his neck to Cariasso.

00:25:22.000 Cariasso's on the bottom there.

00:25:23.000 You're right.

00:25:23.000 The shorts are confusing because I just thought Smolka was on the bottom there.

00:25:27.000 I've never seen it this close.

00:25:28.000 Usually the UFC doesn't play that game.

00:25:32.000 You know you're fighting a superstar if they're like, yeah, he gets black shorts.

00:25:36.000 Oh, if they make you change the color of your shorts.

00:25:38.000 Yeah, like Crow Cop, they're like, you're wearing white.

00:25:40.000 He's obviously wearing the Croatian flag black.

00:25:42.000 Cool, man.

00:25:43.000 Nobody ever had to worry about that with Rich Franklin.

00:25:46.000 He's got the pink shorts.

00:25:47.000 He can have them.

00:25:48.000 Oh, Cariasso's mounted.

00:25:50.000 Oh, shit.

00:25:52.000 Smoke is on top of him.

00:25:55.000 Did you guys see the Zach Cummings fight earlier tonight?

00:25:58.000 No.

00:25:58.000 Fucking incredible fight, man.

00:26:00.000 Incredible.

00:26:01.000 What a fight.

00:26:01.000 It was awesome.

00:26:03.000 Yeah, and Cummings was the underdog and he wound up winning.

00:26:06.000 I don't think Mount is a dangerous position as everyone thinks, as it's notoriously known for.

00:26:12.000 What do you think of that, Joe?

00:26:13.000 I think in MMA, the problem with the mount is when you go to rain down punches, you give up space.

00:26:19.000 And when you give up space, guys put their hands on your hips and they pop out.

00:26:22.000 Exactly.

00:26:23.000 Like, people think when you get to mount, like, oh no, it's over.

00:26:25.000 No.

00:26:25.000 Especially if a guy knows what he's doing.

00:26:27.000 Depends on the mount, though.

00:26:29.000 But if you have your hooks in and you're controlling them, you're not going to be able to punch as hard.

00:26:33.000 Well, some guys have a nasty mount.

00:26:35.000 Like, Benavidez has a wicked mount.

00:26:37.000 Nasty mount.

00:26:37.000 He does a guard from the mount.

00:26:40.000 I love that position.

00:26:41.000 When you mount a guy and you cross your feet underneath his body, you can constrict him the same way you can with a guard.

00:26:48.000 And Benavidez, if he gets an arm anywhere near your chin, his guillotine game is so strong.

00:26:55.000 As is Uriah Fabers, as is Chad Mendes.

00:26:58.000 All the Alpha team guys.

00:26:59.000 They're ridiculous when they get your neck.

00:27:01.000 I'm just saying, as far as taking punishment, if you have a decent mount...

00:27:05.000 Guard?

00:27:06.000 Defense?

00:27:06.000 Yeah.

00:27:07.000 These guys are evenly matched.

00:27:09.000 Yeah, it's a hell of a scramble.

00:27:11.000 This is a great jujitsu match, actually.

00:27:14.000 Yeah.

00:27:14.000 There used to be a time where mount or back mount was game over.

00:27:18.000 I think people got used to that for five years.

00:27:20.000 It's like, oh, he's got his back.

00:27:21.000 It's over.

00:27:22.000 It's the same thing.

00:27:22.000 Someone gets to mount, even in camp right now.

00:27:26.000 Someone gets to mount, everyone's like, oh, no.

00:27:28.000 It's really not that big of a deal.

00:27:30.000 Remco Pardew fought Marco Huas.

00:27:32.000 Marco Huas mounted him, and he tapped.

00:27:35.000 It's like, it's over.

00:27:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:37.000 Over, just sheer terror.

00:27:39.000 He got the mount.

00:27:39.000 He's like, this is over.

00:27:40.000 The position is no good.

00:27:41.000 You know what?

00:27:43.000 One guy where if he got mount, it was actually over and he should tap?

00:27:46.000 Shane Carlin.

00:27:47.000 Oh, yeah.

00:27:47.000 That's a good point.

00:27:48.000 That's like having a building on you.

00:27:49.000 Dude.

00:27:51.000 Didn't matter how good your jiu-jitsu was.

00:27:52.000 It's like having a building on you.

00:27:54.000 But Brock Lesnar survived it.

00:27:56.000 Not mount.

00:27:57.000 Not mount.

00:27:57.000 By the way, Shane Carlin's strongest guy.

00:27:59.000 He had knee on belly.

00:28:00.000 Knee on belly.

00:28:01.000 Half guard.

00:28:01.000 And he postured up.

00:28:02.000 Shane Carlin's strongest guy you've ever rolled with?

00:28:05.000 Yes.

00:28:06.000 I mean, he's like an alien from a muscle planet.

00:28:10.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:28:11.000 It's like, where'd you come from, muscle planet?

00:28:13.000 I mean, it's just like...

00:28:15.000 That fucking guy was so big in his prime.

00:28:17.000 His arms were so long, too.

00:28:18.000 I would get in my car and cry, man, after practice.

00:28:21.000 You'd think you'd be getting better because he'd take like a week off because he just didn't give a shit?

00:28:24.000 Yeah.

00:28:24.000 And then I'd be in the gym seven days a week and he'd come in and just whoop my ass.

00:28:30.000 Now, when he got injured, how much did his injuries progress and how did they progress?

00:28:35.000 Because I know he had a lot of back injuries.

00:28:37.000 He had a lot of back injuries, then he had a horrible neck, and it was like when he fought Frank Mare, he might have hit mitts three times.

00:28:43.000 He just couldn't do it.

00:28:45.000 Wow.

00:28:45.000 He's that fucked up.

00:28:47.000 When Shane Carlin fought Gabriel Gonzaga, that was like his very first big test and he knocked him out like this.

00:28:53.000 He just went boop and knocked Gabriel Gonzaga out.

00:28:55.000 After he got tagged and he got his nose broken.

00:28:57.000 Yes, exactly.

00:28:58.000 But when Shane was getting ready for that fight...

00:29:01.000 And I've seen a ton of fighters, man, my time.

00:29:03.000 A ton.

00:29:04.000 The best in the world.

00:29:05.000 That was the best heavyweight I've ever seen in my life.

00:29:08.000 She was about 255, shredded.

00:29:12.000 It looked like you shaved a silverback gorilla and put boxing gloves on.

00:29:16.000 And I had to be his main training partner.

00:29:18.000 I was like, shh!

00:29:18.000 Shit!

00:29:19.000 I had to give myself a pep talk in the car.

00:29:21.000 I was talking myself up, like, you can do this, bro.

00:29:24.000 Just get in there.

00:29:25.000 Just get through it.

00:29:27.000 Yeah.

00:29:27.000 But I've never...

00:29:28.000 His speed, his quickness, his cardio was good.

00:29:31.000 He hit so hard.

00:29:33.000 And they would be like, hey, we got other guys for Shane today.

00:29:36.000 I'd be like, thank God, because I don't have to go one round with him.

00:29:38.000 These other guys would go in, I'd just sit back and be like, yeah.

00:29:41.000 He would knock everybody out, man.

00:29:43.000 In training?

00:29:44.000 In training.

00:29:45.000 Now, at Grudge, was there too much of that going on at Grudge?

00:29:49.000 I would say...

00:29:50.000 Yes.

00:29:53.000 Big smile before you answer.

00:29:54.000 I would say...

00:29:55.000 But you know what?

00:29:56.000 You know what?

00:29:56.000 That was the thing.

00:29:58.000 Back then, I think every gym was like that.

00:30:00.000 Because I'd go down to Jackson's...

00:30:00.000 Before you knew better.

00:30:01.000 I'd go down to Jackson's and all we would do is punch each other in the face.

00:30:05.000 It's all we did.

00:30:06.000 It's a weird thing because a lot...

00:30:08.000 You know who criticizes a lot of that is Ernesto Hoost.

00:30:11.000 Ernesto Hoost was talking about gyms that do that.

00:30:13.000 And he's like, it's ridiculous.

00:30:14.000 It's horrible.

00:30:15.000 He's like, it's not necessary.

00:30:16.000 It doesn't make you better.

00:30:18.000 It's not necessary.

00:30:19.000 It doesn't make you better.

00:30:20.000 What's doing it, it's taking out potential five of the nights you could have getting paid a lot of money for it.

00:30:26.000 Like on Friday, it's sparring day at Reign.

00:30:30.000 And there's a bunch of new guys there.

00:30:31.000 Tough, high-level guys.

00:30:32.000 And if they don't have headgear on, I won't spar them.

00:30:35.000 Really?

00:30:36.000 A headbutt, if we both get head...

00:30:38.000 You cut my...

00:30:39.000 Listen, man, I've got to fight in four weeks.

00:30:41.000 Beating you up does nothing for me.

00:30:43.000 I don't get paid to do this.

00:30:45.000 Well, they were wondering why...

00:30:46.000 As a vet now, I'll say something.

00:30:48.000 I'm like, nah, bro, get headgear, or we'll go next round, or I'll roll with you or something.

00:30:52.000 Somebody was talking about how when somebody gets knocked out five times or whatever, they start getting a glass chin, so you touch them, they go out.

00:30:59.000 And what they were saying was that the reason for that was that your brain...

00:31:03.000 When you get caught, your brain will shut off.

00:31:07.000 It's so used to that, it goes, oh, danger time, don't want any more punishment, gotta protect itself, and will shut your body right off.

00:31:13.000 That's one theory.

00:31:14.000 Well, Liddell explained to me, we were talking about it once, and he said that he just couldn't take a shot anymore, and what it was because, he said he was, you know, he was, he would grit his fucking, he would bite down on his mouthpiece and cough it out, and just absorb punishment.

00:31:29.000 And his brain knew when he was getting hit that he was going to do that.

00:31:32.000 His brain knew that he was going to exhort punishment.

00:31:34.000 So the brain's like, fuck you!

00:31:36.000 And just shut off.

00:31:37.000 That's good, though.

00:31:38.000 Yeah, so when I said somebody, that was you.

00:31:40.000 And I'm telling the story again.

00:31:42.000 All right, so that's right.

00:31:43.000 You know, Johnny Hendricks came out pretty publicly and talked about how he didn't take headshots for that whole camp against Lawler.

00:31:49.000 Well, it's smart.

00:31:50.000 You see them in the cage there, and those guys are just trading back and forth.

00:31:53.000 You've got to save it for when it counts.

00:31:55.000 Save it for when it counts.

00:31:57.000 You football, don't they?

00:31:57.000 They don't scrimmage.

00:31:59.000 Only certain guys because they're getting smarter.

00:32:01.000 Like Michigan, Ohio State, they don't hit during the season.

00:32:04.000 Makes sense.

00:32:04.000 In the NFL, you really don't hit.

00:32:06.000 You don't hit.

00:32:06.000 You're paying these athletes so much money.

00:32:08.000 Why the hell?

00:32:09.000 Listen, if you can't take a punch now or avoid a punch now, you're not going to do it four weeks from now.

00:32:14.000 Exactly.

00:32:14.000 That's a very good point.

00:32:16.000 And your ability to take a punch, a lot of times, depends on how many punches you've already taken.

00:32:20.000 I mean, we've all seen guys where their chin starts to go.

00:32:24.000 We've all seen guys like that, where they just start to hit.

00:32:27.000 Did you see Pat Berry's last fight?

00:32:28.000 I did.

00:32:29.000 Yes.

00:32:30.000 Pat Barry had never gotten knocked out before when he fought Czech Kongo.

00:32:34.000 Czech Kongo was the first time he ever went out.

00:32:36.000 That was a great fight.

00:32:37.000 It was a great fight.

00:32:37.000 But then he got knocked out there.

00:32:39.000 He got knocked out by Saul Pileli.

00:32:41.000 He got knocked out by LeVar Johnson.

00:32:43.000 He got knocked out by Zach Muikasa.

00:32:47.000 Holy shit, is that guy a beast.

00:32:48.000 What the hell?

00:32:49.000 What was that?

00:32:50.000 That's the Kongo, son.

00:32:51.000 That's a dude who grew up in the fucking Kongo.

00:32:53.000 That is the Kongo.

00:32:53.000 Remember we were talking about Russians?

00:32:56.000 Yes.

00:32:56.000 Russians are scared of people from the Congo.

00:32:58.000 Because that's some next level shit.

00:33:00.000 Next level shit.

00:33:00.000 Those dudes who climb skyscrapers.

00:33:02.000 He's boxing gorillas.

00:33:03.000 He's boxing silverbacks.

00:33:04.000 In Russia, they're wrestling grizzly bears.

00:33:07.000 Here I am in Malibu playing grab ass with Bruce Jenner.

00:33:09.000 How am I going to do this?

00:33:10.000 How the fuck am I going to do this, man?

00:33:12.000 My kids are screwed.

00:33:13.000 I need training today so I kick a jaguar in the balls.

00:33:17.000 Yeah.

00:33:18.000 Bro, when...

00:33:18.000 I kicked his shot water.

00:33:19.000 I kicked his shot water in the balls.

00:33:21.000 I DVR'd it, and when I got home, I fast-forwarded to Pat Berry's fight, and the dude he was fighting, I was like, no.

00:33:27.000 Who signed this fight?

00:33:29.000 Why would you do that?

00:33:30.000 Well, Mui Casa has a...

00:33:31.000 He's got a pretty good boxing background.

00:33:32.000 Boxing background, yeah.

00:33:33.000 And, you know, I think...

00:33:34.000 I think he was 12-1 as a pro.

00:33:36.000 I like Pat Berry, but I hate when a guy says, I fight one-round fights.

00:33:40.000 So, I fight one-round fights, I'm out there to fight one-round fights.

00:33:44.000 Stop.

00:33:44.000 That's a mental weakness.

00:33:45.000 Stop saying that.

00:33:46.000 When I hear that, it's a mental weakness.

00:33:47.000 Well, not only that.

00:33:49.000 I understand that you want to be exciting.

00:33:50.000 I understand that.

00:33:51.000 But you're a fighter and you're skillful.

00:33:54.000 That guy should be doing it.

00:33:55.000 He should be training at some high-level camp.

00:33:58.000 Some high-level Muay Thai camp.

00:34:00.000 You want to be a Muay Thai fighter?

00:34:01.000 Fucking go to Golden Glory.

00:34:02.000 Leave an MMA gym.

00:34:03.000 Go do...

00:34:04.000 Yes, exactly.

00:34:05.000 Go somewhere, you know...

00:34:06.000 Pat was the guy who would walk into wrestling and literally, he'd be like, dude, did someone kill your dog on the way here?

00:34:12.000 He'd get into wrestling and just be like, super sad.

00:34:15.000 Super sad.

00:34:16.000 And then he'd be like, you know, he was the only other heavyweight.

00:34:18.000 He was the only other heavyweight.

00:34:20.000 So he'd be like, Shob, go with Pat.

00:34:21.000 I'm like, alright.

00:34:22.000 Come here, Mopey Myrtle.

00:34:23.000 Let's go.

00:34:24.000 Mopey Myrtle.

00:34:25.000 Let me show you a double leg.

00:34:26.000 Let's go.

00:34:26.000 This is how you avoid getting stuffed on your back.

00:34:30.000 Yes.

00:34:31.000 He just hated wrestling that much?

00:34:33.000 Dreaded it.

00:34:34.000 You know, he was doing wrestling and was like, you know what?

00:34:38.000 Fuck this.

00:34:39.000 And then was like, I'm retiring.

00:34:41.000 I don't want to do this anymore.

00:34:42.000 That's hilarious.

00:34:42.000 I hear he's like a really funny guy.

00:34:45.000 He's hilarious.

00:34:46.000 He's a great guy.

00:34:46.000 Talk your ass much longer.

00:34:48.000 Real talker.

00:34:48.000 How much longer if he keeps getting knocked out like that?

00:34:50.000 You know, that's what I worry about.

00:34:51.000 A guy like that is a sweetheart.

00:34:53.000 He's a great guy.

00:34:54.000 He's tough as shit.

00:34:55.000 He puts on exciting fights.

00:34:57.000 I mean, when he knocked out the late, great Shane Del Rosario, that was like one of my favorite heavyweight fights ever.

00:35:03.000 Yeah, I'll take some more.

00:35:03.000 You're not mad at this wine, by the way?

00:35:04.000 It's very good.

00:35:05.000 I'm not mad at this bulletproof coffee.

00:35:07.000 It's good.

00:35:07.000 It's the only reason I come.

00:35:08.000 Oh yeah, you can't drink.

00:35:09.000 I love it.

00:35:10.000 Somebody's in camp!

00:35:11.000 I swill wine like an aristocrat.

00:35:13.000 By the way...

00:35:14.000 That's one of the reasons why you can't pull back a 90-pound bow.

00:35:16.000 Your body's rejecting it.

00:35:17.000 Doesn't matter.

00:35:17.000 I got good taste buds.

00:35:19.000 My body's...

00:35:20.000 I'm built for dance, I told you.

00:35:21.000 Your elbows.

00:35:22.000 Whatever.

00:35:24.000 That's bullshit.

00:35:25.000 You gotta tell me afterwards, I can do 28 chin-ups.

00:35:28.000 Okay.

00:35:29.000 You gotta tell me.

00:35:30.000 You gotta tell me.

00:35:30.000 Cool, man.

00:35:31.000 He can't do the bow.

00:35:32.000 He's like, I don't get it.

00:35:33.000 You could do it so easy.

00:35:34.000 Yeah.

00:35:35.000 You do it easy, by the way.

00:35:37.000 Heavyweights.

00:35:38.000 I was all bunched up.

00:35:38.000 I was like, huh.

00:35:40.000 Heavyweights.

00:35:40.000 How about Potts was selling mouthpieces?

00:35:43.000 That's how he got into the game.

00:35:44.000 By the way, Saudi?

00:35:44.000 He was selling mouthpieces.

00:35:45.000 Really?

00:35:45.000 Potts and Sawapulele.

00:35:47.000 Sawapulele, he's not Samoan, is he?

00:35:49.000 He's a Samoan warrior.

00:35:50.000 He's a big boy.

00:35:51.000 How do you say his name?

00:35:52.000 Ruan Potts?

00:35:53.000 Let's put some volume up there.

00:35:54.000 Is he from Holland?

00:35:55.000 Where is he from?

00:35:59.000 Let's back it up so we can see how John Yannick says his name.

00:36:02.000 And then fast forward so we're not out of line with all the people watching at home.

00:36:06.000 Soa might be, besides Bigfoot, the second biggest guy.

00:36:13.000 Back it up again.

00:36:14.000 What a badass.

00:36:15.000 I wish I was Simone.

00:36:16.000 Shh.

00:36:18.000 Back it up again.

00:36:20.000 All right, moving on now, and welcome to the big show, the heavyweight Ruan Potts.

00:36:24.000 Ruan.

00:36:25.000 Ruan.

00:36:25.000 All right, fast forward this shit.

00:36:26.000 Where is Ruan Potts from?

00:36:28.000 He lives next door to you.

00:36:29.000 He's fucking your wife right now.

00:36:31.000 Hey man, I'm not there to videotape it?

00:36:34.000 Damn it.

00:36:34.000 What is this?

00:36:35.000 What is this?

00:36:35.000 Why does Fox News insist on putting hot chicks in dresses that talk about sports?

00:36:40.000 I'm not mad about it.

00:36:41.000 I'm not mad about it either, but it makes me uncomfortable when my dick gets hard when I'm watching fights.

00:36:45.000 I'm like, what are you doing?

00:36:47.000 You're sending me mixed signals.

00:36:48.000 And then a big sweaty Samoan comes on the screen.

00:36:50.000 You're like, oh no, I'm really confused.

00:36:52.000 I disagree with your political outlook, but my dick is hard, so I'm listening.

00:36:58.000 I want to argue with you and give you a better point than you're capable of making, just so I can fuck you.

00:37:05.000 If you ever want to freak your friends out, just walk into the room with a hard on.

00:37:08.000 Well, that's what they're trying to do when they're putting these women on Fox News.

00:37:11.000 I mean, look, not saying there's anything wrong with these women or that they're not intelligent.

00:37:15.000 They surely are.

00:37:16.000 That's how they got on.

00:37:17.000 Look, it's very difficult to get a job where you're a political correspondent or you're doing sports.

00:37:22.000 I mean, it's even harder for a woman to do sports than it is for a man because she's got to stand up to all the patriarchy, all the bullshit that guys don't want to hear women talking about sports.

00:37:32.000 However, they're all hot.

00:37:34.000 That's a fucking strategy.

00:37:36.000 They know what they're doing.

00:37:37.000 They're tricking us.

00:37:38.000 We can't have Large Marge up there and be like, this just in, boys.

00:37:42.000 Look at Wayne Newton's face.

00:37:44.000 Look at this.

00:37:44.000 Back that up real quick.

00:37:46.000 Back that up.

00:37:47.000 I need to see this.

00:37:47.000 Look at that face.

00:37:48.000 There's no need for that, Wayne.

00:37:49.000 Talk about a boner.

00:37:51.000 So here's the commercial.

00:37:52.000 Wayne Newton is spinning around.

00:37:55.000 That might be a wax figure.

00:37:56.000 Look at that!

00:37:57.000 The woman, who's hot as fuck, by the way, is excited that Wayne Newton's staring at her.

00:38:03.000 Let it roll because he winks at her.

00:38:04.000 Look at him!

00:38:06.000 And look, she gets excited.

00:38:08.000 No, she doesn't!

00:38:09.000 You're not a good enough actor, ma'am.

00:38:11.000 You're not a good enough actor for that.

00:38:13.000 That makes me not want to go to Vegas.

00:38:14.000 Frozen face zombie gets your pussy moist.

00:38:18.000 No, he does not.

00:38:18.000 He's a thousand years old.

00:38:20.000 And I know you want to get your SAG card, but there's better ways.

00:38:24.000 He's a vampire.

00:38:25.000 There's fucking better ways.

00:38:26.000 I was just impressed he was able to wink.

00:38:29.000 Barely!

00:38:30.000 He had a fucking sweat!

00:38:31.000 It's like you doing squats!

00:38:35.000 Him winking is like, you deadlift in 400 pounds.

00:38:39.000 Fight the Botox!

00:38:41.000 He had to psych himself.

00:38:42.000 Bro, I bet he has so many bitches in Vegas, it's not even funny.

00:38:45.000 I don't think so.

00:38:46.000 I bet his black book's ridiculous.

00:38:47.000 He probably has so much money.

00:38:49.000 So if he has so much money, of course he has so many bitches in Vegas.

00:38:52.000 God, what a face.

00:38:53.000 There's so many lost, confused people.

00:38:55.000 He probably gets these girls to the show, sings them a little song.

00:38:59.000 It's on.

00:38:59.000 I think at this point in his career, it's probably done.

00:39:02.000 He's not even interested in that.

00:39:03.000 I disagree.

00:39:04.000 He's performing at Hooters Casino, though.

00:39:06.000 Does he?

00:39:07.000 Is he?

00:39:07.000 I don't know, but he's not on the big show.

00:39:09.000 Okay, well, let's find out where he is.

00:39:11.000 Well, he might still be, believe it or not.

00:39:13.000 Either way, he's going back to the villa and just having bitches.

00:39:17.000 It's one of those things like Tony Bennett where you pretend it's good.

00:39:21.000 Tony Bennett can still sing.

00:39:23.000 Shut the fuck up.

00:39:24.000 Tony Bennett is gracious.

00:39:24.000 If you have a choice between the Spearmint Rhino or going to see Tony Bennett.

00:39:28.000 I'm going to Tony Bennett.

00:39:30.000 Brian!

00:39:31.000 No, because I just feel like those girls, I feel sorry for them.

00:39:33.000 Most of them are nursing students.

00:39:36.000 WayneNewton.com.

00:39:37.000 Schedule.

00:39:37.000 Let's go to schedule.

00:39:38.000 You guys want to get boners in the meantime or no?

00:39:40.000 Oh, okay.

00:39:41.000 He might not even be in Vegas anymore because it says here 517 Lindenwood University?

00:39:49.000 Yep.

00:39:50.000 Hooters Casino.

00:39:51.000 Dude, he took his shit on the road.

00:39:53.000 There's nothing wrong with that.

00:39:55.000 Why are you defending Wayne Newton over there?

00:39:57.000 I have no idea.

00:39:58.000 You're a contrarian, man.

00:39:59.000 But university is spelled wrong.

00:40:03.000 It's Univer-city.

00:40:05.000 C-I-T-Y. That's not how you spell university, is it?

00:40:08.000 Well, if it's Linwood University.

00:40:09.000 Brian, who you got in this fight?

00:40:11.000 Heavyweight, son.

00:40:11.000 I got the Samoan on principle.

00:40:13.000 Mr. Las Vegas World Tour, and he's going to some university in St. Charles, Missouri.

00:40:21.000 And then another place in Wisconsin.

00:40:22.000 Bruce Buffer!

00:40:23.000 He's not in Vegas.

00:40:25.000 You're right.

00:40:25.000 He's not in Vegas.

00:40:26.000 Nobody wants to see that shit.

00:40:27.000 Lake of the Torches Resort Casino, Lac du Flambe, Wisconsin.

00:40:34.000 Holy shit.

00:40:35.000 He wishes he was at Hooters Casino.

00:40:37.000 Wow, he might not be in Vegas anymore.

00:40:40.000 This is really true.

00:40:41.000 He really does wish he was at Hooters Casino.

00:40:42.000 He still calls himself Mr. Vegas?

00:40:44.000 I don't know.

00:40:46.000 That's a good question, man.

00:40:47.000 It seems like he's not in Vegas anymore.

00:40:49.000 That's insane.

00:40:50.000 It's a shame, really.

00:40:51.000 So, Brennan, for the heavyweights, how much tougher is a heavyweight's chin versus the punching power?

00:40:56.000 Like, what's that relation there?

00:40:58.000 You know what I mean?

00:41:00.000 People ask me this all the time.

00:41:01.000 I mean, besides Mark Hunt and Roy Nelson...

00:41:05.000 There's really no such thing.

00:41:06.000 Everyone's been knocked out at heavyweight.

00:41:08.000 I mean, name a guy.

00:41:09.000 He's been knocked out.

00:41:12.000 All the top guys have really been knocked out.

00:41:14.000 And if you haven't, you're not fighting tough enough guys.

00:41:17.000 So if you say, from middleweight to heavyweight, how much more of a punch does it take?

00:41:21.000 20%, 30%?

00:41:23.000 It's tough to say.

00:41:24.000 It depends on the fighter.

00:41:25.000 But if Sowa lands a good jab here, it could knock him out.

00:41:28.000 Look at the size of Sowa.

00:41:29.000 A jab will knock a guy out.

00:41:30.000 Look at the size of his legs!

00:41:32.000 Oh my god!

00:41:34.000 Brian, please control you.

00:41:35.000 Sorry, sorry.

00:41:35.000 He's a big boy.

00:41:36.000 I'm straight, but I'm just saying.

00:41:37.000 So is a big boy.

00:41:38.000 Hands down.

00:41:39.000 That's a big man.

00:41:40.000 No hands, huh?

00:41:40.000 But he fell apart against Eddie Sanchez in his first fight in the UFC. Cardio.

00:41:45.000 Just sheer adrenaline.

00:41:46.000 Cardio.

00:41:47.000 Adrenaline dump.

00:41:48.000 Because Ryan Parsons was very high on this guy.

00:41:50.000 He was saying, like, the guy's a beast.

00:41:52.000 He just had a hard time.

00:41:54.000 He's light on his feet.

00:41:54.000 He just had a hard time dealing with the pressure.

00:41:56.000 The pressure's a motherfucker, right?

00:41:58.000 I mean, Brendan, do you feel like the pressure was that you had- There's the guillotine you sold on.

00:42:03.000 Sorry.

00:42:03.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:42:03.000 What are we doing?

00:42:04.000 Same thing.

00:42:04.000 When guys do that, it drives me nuts.

00:42:06.000 But Pulele has got his arm trapped.

00:42:08.000 His arm's trapped, but if it wasn't, he would come over.

00:42:10.000 Right.

00:42:11.000 But I bet he doesn't do that, because he's not a grappler.

00:42:13.000 No.

00:42:13.000 Well, you know, he did mount Pat Berry.

00:42:17.000 Pat, yes.

00:42:18.000 So did my brother.

00:42:19.000 But he did work with a lot of wrestlers.

00:42:21.000 He did work with a lot of wrestlers.

00:42:22.000 So it did.

00:42:24.000 Look at this.

00:42:25.000 This guy's using this guillotine.

00:42:26.000 You can use chin control to get to the half guard.

00:42:28.000 So it just gave him half guard.

00:42:30.000 And then he gave it back.

00:42:33.000 He's still holding onto his neck.

00:42:34.000 Look at that!

00:42:35.000 He rolled him over with the neck!

00:42:36.000 Oh my goodness, this is some blue belt level shit.

00:42:40.000 There's a guillotine here.

00:42:41.000 He's not even...

00:42:41.000 It's going to be a horrible idea.

00:42:45.000 Pulled guard.

00:42:47.000 Brendan Shaw getting crazy.

00:42:48.000 Yeah, not a good move.

00:42:50.000 What level of jiu-jitsu, when you compare, like say, Metamorris, Abu Dhabi, and then you watch grappling like an average match in the UFC. Give me some volume there, young Jamie.

00:43:02.000 Oh yeah, sorry.

00:43:02.000 How much difference do you think?

00:43:05.000 What would you say?

00:43:07.000 In Metamorris, black belt.

00:43:09.000 In the UFC, the average is purple belt.

00:43:12.000 Really?

00:43:13.000 I would say this is blue belt, what we're seeing.

00:43:16.000 This is low level.

00:43:17.000 This is blue belt, but I think the average...

00:43:19.000 On average, I'd say purple.

00:43:22.000 He doesn't have an armbar.

00:43:24.000 I meant triangle.

00:43:25.000 No, he doesn't have that either.

00:43:27.000 I was saying it was in the family.

00:43:29.000 In that family.

00:43:31.000 Do you think the average is purple belt?

00:43:32.000 I'd say purple belt.

00:43:34.000 I'd say purple belt.

00:43:35.000 But at 155, black belt.

00:43:40.000 155, 170. Oh boy.

00:43:42.000 How fucking good is Jim Miller's jiu-jitsu?

00:43:44.000 Oh!

00:43:46.000 Ron's out.

00:43:47.000 Because Pulele hits fucking hard as shit, man.

00:43:49.000 Kiss him on the back of the head.

00:43:51.000 Wow.

00:43:53.000 Who did he kiss?

00:43:53.000 The referee?

00:43:54.000 Yeah.

00:43:55.000 Good move.

00:43:55.000 Keith Peterson's a sexy bitch.

00:43:57.000 Yes, he is.

00:43:58.000 He's a good guy to kiss.

00:43:59.000 Pulele, see?

00:44:00.000 Now, there's a guy that's getting comfortable in the UFC, and you're getting to see what everybody saw from him in the gym.

00:44:05.000 Knee on belly, gets the mount.

00:44:08.000 Ding.

00:44:09.000 Oh, it was the left.

00:44:10.000 It was the left.

00:44:10.000 Oh, no.

00:44:11.000 And not even a lot behind it.

00:44:14.000 Oh, he kissed him.

00:44:15.000 Yeah.

00:44:16.000 Left underneath the...

00:44:17.000 Look at that knee to the belly.

00:44:18.000 But check out the left.

00:44:19.000 But this is what everybody said about him.

00:44:21.000 The guy fucking hits wicked hard.

00:44:23.000 Look at this.

00:44:24.000 Bump.

00:44:24.000 That left hand.

00:44:25.000 Look at the eyes.

00:44:26.000 That one eye open.

00:44:27.000 Oh, God.

00:44:28.000 He's seeing all kinds of shit that you used to see when you were a little kid.

00:44:32.000 When you saw those cartoons where a guy got hit in the head with a frying pan.

00:44:35.000 The birds would fly around.

00:44:37.000 Yeah.

00:44:38.000 I think I saw that in the jungle.

00:44:39.000 It's no fun.

00:44:40.000 Sowa has an impressive record, man.

00:44:43.000 We'll talk about that tomorrow.

00:44:44.000 Sowa's like 21-3 now, I think?

00:44:47.000 Yeah.

00:44:48.000 Impressive record.

00:44:49.000 Most of it's outside the UFC, so I don't really care.

00:44:52.000 But does Sowa do the Haka?

00:44:53.000 Because I can only get behind him if he does the Haka.

00:44:54.000 My favorite thing.

00:44:55.000 I watch the All Blacks Haka all the time.

00:44:57.000 It fires me up.

00:44:58.000 If you're ever feeling sorry for yourself, if you're having a fucking pity party, watch a YouTube with a Haka.

00:45:03.000 Nobody wants to be Samoan more than me.

00:45:06.000 So, you know...

00:45:09.000 Part of me dies.

00:45:09.000 I may or may not have written my own haka, actually.

00:45:12.000 Really?

00:45:12.000 You can't do that!

00:45:13.000 Unless you go to battle or swim across the ocean in a dugout canoe, you're not allowed to make your own haka.

00:45:19.000 No one's ever seen it.

00:45:20.000 I realized that I couldn't do anything with it, but I tried.

00:45:23.000 It's all right, man.

00:45:25.000 It's all right.

00:45:25.000 I was motivated.

00:45:26.000 I was fired up.

00:45:27.000 I watched a little Khal Drogo in Game of Thrones.

00:45:30.000 I was fired up.

00:45:31.000 Joe, if you think jiu-jitsu's at a purple belt level, overall, we're talking all weight classes, what would you say strike in fact?

00:45:36.000 Purple belt as well.

00:45:38.000 I'd say, yeah.

00:45:39.000 I mean, if you pay attention to, like, look at high-level boxing, look at high-level Muay Thai, look at high-level kickboxing.

00:45:45.000 And the difference between kickboxing and Muay Thai, for folks who don't know, if you're watching, like, Glory, what they're not allowed to do in Glory, and I love Glory, but what they're not allowed to do is elbows to the head, and they're not allowed to clinch and throw knees.

00:45:58.000 But Muay Thai, that's a big part of Muay Thai.

00:46:01.000 And it also protects fighters.

00:46:03.000 And in a good instance, a good example, rather, a guy like John Wayne Parr, Multiple time Muay Thai champion, but not really allowed to use his full skill set when he fights in Glory.

00:46:15.000 And I'm a fan of Glory.

00:46:16.000 Why is that?

00:46:17.000 Why?

00:46:18.000 Because Glory has decided they want to go the K1 route.

00:46:21.000 And what K1 decided was, they used to let you clinch with two hands, but then Alistair started kneeing guys into oblivion, so they changed two hands to one hand.

00:46:31.000 Sakuraba?

00:46:32.000 Yeah.

00:46:33.000 Sakuraba fought in K-1?

00:46:36.000 Who did he fight where he broke his chin?

00:46:40.000 Sakuraba broke his chin?

00:46:42.000 Overeem did it to him.

00:46:44.000 No, Overeem never fought Sakuraba.

00:46:46.000 I think you're thinking of Melvin Manhoof.

00:46:48.000 No, no.

00:46:50.000 Fought Sakuraba?

00:46:52.000 Sakuraba only fought Muay Thai, or MMA. He never fought Muay Thai.

00:46:56.000 Maybe it was MMA, but it was in the clinch.

00:46:57.000 He broke his chin.

00:46:58.000 Sorry.

00:46:59.000 I'm not sure what fight that was.

00:47:00.000 I mean, Sakuraba has taken some fucking brutal beatings in his time.

00:47:04.000 But the bottom line is that...

00:47:06.000 You're not as able to defend yourself if you're fighting in kickboxing.

00:47:12.000 Because kickboxing, you have all these other things that you can do.

00:47:16.000 You can grab the plum, you can shove your head up into the side of his head.

00:47:21.000 And really control that clench and knee to the body and trip and throw them to the ground.

00:47:27.000 There's all these different things that you could do.

00:47:29.000 The only promotion in America that allows that is lion fights.

00:47:32.000 And you can watch that on AXS TV. Great, great, great fights.

00:47:36.000 I love watching that.

00:47:38.000 And when you see some really high-level Muay Thai, you see all the elbows.

00:47:44.000 There's all these tools that guys are allowed to use in stand-up and MMA that you can't use in dream.

00:47:50.000 Or rather, you can't use in K1 and you can't use in glory.

00:47:53.000 One of the most confusing things I ever saw was watching fights in Bangkok and Samui in Thailand.

00:47:59.000 Because the rule system there for the Muay Thai fight, first of all, it's epic, because everybody in the audience is betting the whole time.

00:48:05.000 And by the way, they will do, like in first round, a lot of times, because they bet on things like how many roundhouses are going to be on the right side.

00:48:13.000 They do all kinds of stuff.

00:48:14.000 If you're betting on your guy, your guy will get that note.

00:48:20.000 You can never tell how somebody's going to do how good a fighter somebody is by watching their first round.

00:48:26.000 A lot of the bets came in.

00:48:29.000 Yes.

00:48:47.000 Hook, cross, uppercut.

00:48:48.000 And you're like, oh shit, oh shit.

00:48:49.000 But I'm the only one yelling.

00:48:51.000 And then at the end of the fight, I'm like, man, that guy kicked the other guy's ass.

00:48:54.000 And it's the Thai guy who landed more knees that wins.

00:48:58.000 That's right.

00:48:58.000 What is going on?

00:48:59.000 Not Sakuraba, Fujita.

00:49:01.000 Did you see that?

00:49:03.000 No, I did not.

00:49:04.000 He fought Overeem.

00:49:07.000 Overeem, what he did was...

00:49:08.000 Oh, that back kick was nice.

00:49:09.000 Yeah, that was Eddie Wineland that he knocked out.

00:49:12.000 He's going to fight TJ Dillashaw on that.

00:49:13.000 Such a good back kick.

00:49:15.000 Yeah, that's Hennon Burrell.

00:49:16.000 He might be the best pound-for-pound guy on the planet.

00:49:18.000 Burrell's phenomenal.

00:49:19.000 If he's not the best, he's close to it.

00:49:23.000 TJ by Japanese necktie.

00:49:25.000 Oh, yeah, maybe.

00:49:26.000 Wouldn't that be crazy?

00:49:27.000 That'd be dope.

00:49:28.000 I showed it to him at the honor headquarters.

00:49:31.000 Did you really?

00:49:31.000 I couldn't believe he didn't know it.

00:49:33.000 He's never seen it?

00:49:34.000 No.

00:49:34.000 Neither did TJ. TJ didn't know it.

00:49:37.000 Neither did Danny Castillo.

00:49:38.000 Neither one of those guys knew it.

00:49:40.000 Iminari and the Japanese neck guy.

00:49:42.000 You rolled with him?

00:49:42.000 Yeah, well, I showed him some techniques.

00:49:44.000 Well, the only tapping was that, and then I just put him in rubber guard and asked him to escape, and then I got him in the Iminari.

00:49:52.000 Do you know the Iminari?

00:49:54.000 I was trying to show Whitney.

00:49:55.000 I don't know the names to...

00:49:57.000 A lot of Bravo stuff.

00:49:58.000 Well, Iminari's not Bravo's.

00:50:00.000 It's Iminari's technique.

00:50:01.000 It's basically an omoplata where you finish with a neck crank.

00:50:05.000 You go for the omoplata.

00:50:07.000 When you got the guy, you know how you got a guy flattened out and you got the seat belt?

00:50:11.000 You grab the neck.

00:50:13.000 Pull back like that.

00:50:14.000 It's a fucking devastating move.

00:50:15.000 I'll pull it up for you.

00:50:18.000 Or you could just do it to me.

00:50:20.000 No, I'll show you.

00:50:21.000 Just do it to me.

00:50:23.000 Or you could just do it.

00:50:24.000 I'm more of a visual guy.

00:50:24.000 Why'd your voice get so dear and raspy?

00:50:27.000 My dick got hard.

00:50:28.000 Oh, God.

00:50:30.000 Boners everywhere.

00:50:31.000 This podcast is the best, but confusing.

00:50:35.000 Google Imanari Omoplata neck crank.

00:50:39.000 There's a video of it.

00:50:40.000 It's pretty fucking dope, dude.

00:50:42.000 He really knows how to do it.

00:50:45.000 And he invented this.

00:50:47.000 I've never seen it.

00:50:47.000 I never saw anybody do it before Imanari did it.

00:50:51.000 We got some videos of you teaching that on YouTube, too.

00:50:54.000 Oh, is that on YouTube?

00:50:55.000 I'm pretty sure, yeah.

00:50:56.000 Better get on it.

00:50:58.000 Yeah, I asked Danny if he had ever seen it before and then I strangled him with it.

00:51:06.000 I asked him to get out of Rubber Guard.

00:51:10.000 He couldn't get out of Rubber Guard.

00:51:12.000 Because if a guy's got a good mission control, it's pretty surprising.

00:51:16.000 You get in a guy like Eddie Bravo's guard and try to get out of it.

00:51:21.000 You're completely clamped down.

00:51:23.000 But the thing about it is that you don't know where you're in danger.

00:51:27.000 You don't know which move.

00:51:29.000 There's so many non-traditional attacks from that position, but Imanari figured out this dope S-grip neck crank.

00:51:36.000 You just reach under the chin with the S-grip, and you really can't fucking defend it because your right arm, totally trapped in the omoplata, right?

00:51:43.000 You're attacking the shoulder.

00:51:44.000 And he's just sitting up.

00:51:45.000 Just sitting up, getting an S-grip on the neck, anywhere around the neck, and just...

00:51:51.000 Yanking that motherfucker back.

00:51:52.000 It's essentially your entire core, all the weight of your back and everything, on the unprotected neck.

00:51:58.000 There's not a lot you can do to defend it.

00:52:00.000 That's not good.

00:52:00.000 Uma Plata's are hard to finish at heavyweight.

00:52:01.000 Very hard to finish at any weight.

00:52:03.000 I get there a lot, and at heavyweight, I feel like it's even worse.

00:52:05.000 Guys are so big, they can pop.

00:52:07.000 What is the one jiu-jitsu move that gets...

00:52:09.000 That Imanari, man, is dope.

00:52:10.000 Have they done a stat on what the one jiu-jitsu move in the UFC, the most successful?

00:52:17.000 Guillotine.

00:52:17.000 100%.

00:52:18.000 What about the second one?

00:52:19.000 As far as the mission rate, I'd say guillotine.

00:52:21.000 Because more people know it.

00:52:23.000 A lot of guys aren't going to pull off all these crazy stuff.

00:52:25.000 You know what would be interesting is the chat rear naked chokes, because that's been on a steady decline.

00:52:29.000 Ah, rear naked choke and guillotine's up there.

00:52:31.000 It's hard with the gloves.

00:52:32.000 The gloves is what makes it hard, man.

00:52:35.000 It's almost now people have to be dazed for you to see someone finish it.

00:52:39.000 Or they have to be giving up.

00:52:40.000 Like Cowboy Cerrone when he had Barbosa dazed.

00:52:43.000 He jumped all over.

00:52:46.000 TJ did a job.

00:52:47.000 Come on, TJ. Let's do this shit.

00:52:50.000 Tough.

00:52:51.000 That would be a good one.

00:52:53.000 That's a crazy fight, man.

00:52:55.000 That's going to be a crazy fight.

00:52:56.000 Oh, there's Iminari pulling it off on that fight.

00:52:58.000 Look at that.

00:52:58.000 On that TV. Pull back it up a little bit, Jamie, so we can get a look at it.

00:53:03.000 It's a repeating gif.

00:53:04.000 Look at this.

00:53:05.000 See how he gets it?

00:53:06.000 Look at that.

00:53:07.000 What in the world is that?

00:53:08.000 Look at that.

00:53:09.000 What is that?

00:53:10.000 That is so nasty.

00:53:11.000 Oh no, that's bad, man.

00:53:13.000 Let me do it to you, Brian.

00:53:14.000 I'll show you.

00:53:15.000 No way.

00:53:16.000 It's death.

00:53:16.000 It's hot death.

00:53:16.000 That's how it went away.

00:53:18.000 If you've got a neck problem now, I'll fucking kill your sperm count with that.

00:53:22.000 That just looks terrible.

00:53:23.000 I mean, that's literally how you break your fucking body in half.

00:53:26.000 It's a beautiful technique, though.

00:53:27.000 It's super effective and very rarely done.

00:53:30.000 It's from omoplata and you just grab his head like that.

00:53:32.000 Well, especially if the guy's trying to release your legs to try to save his arm.

00:53:35.000 Oh, my God.

00:53:36.000 Because you kind of give up.

00:53:37.000 Your right arm is trapped.

00:53:38.000 Now, there he gets underneath the chin.

00:53:40.000 No, thanks.

00:53:40.000 But you don't have to.

00:53:41.000 But you don't have to because it's a crank.

00:53:42.000 It's basically a neck crank, and you're breaking a spine.

00:53:45.000 I mean, it's just a horrible, horrible position.

00:53:47.000 You're putting so much pressure on the discs.

00:53:49.000 It's horrible.

00:53:51.000 It's horrible.

00:53:52.000 That's sweet, man.

00:53:52.000 I get there a lot.

00:53:53.000 You can do it, man.

00:53:55.000 I mean, I'll show you after the podcast the setup.

00:53:58.000 It's super, super clean.

00:53:59.000 Look at that beautiful back kick.

00:54:00.000 And it's one of those techniques where it's there the whole time, but nobody does it.

00:54:04.000 Sort of like the Japanese necktie where a lot of guys want to get the darts, they can't get the darts.

00:54:08.000 They don't know the necktie is right there the whole time.

00:54:11.000 You know that, right?

00:54:12.000 You do that, Japanese necktie a lot?

00:54:14.000 I'm familiar.

00:54:14.000 We should go over it after this.

00:54:15.000 Your darts is fucking nasty, man.

00:54:17.000 That darts you hit Mitrione with, that was locked down tight.

00:54:20.000 That was bank vault tight.

00:54:21.000 Yeah, darts, that's just forever.

00:54:23.000 You know how things just come to you?

00:54:24.000 For whatever reason, I see darts everywhere.

00:54:28.000 For whatever reason, as soon as I started doing jiu-jitsu, they showed me the darts, and then I was just right away.

00:54:33.000 It was just something they showed me once, and it was in my tool.

00:54:35.000 That's interesting.

00:54:37.000 There's some guys that just, like, certain techniques really click with them.

00:54:40.000 It's so weird.

00:54:40.000 Weird, like Paul Sass, triangles.

00:54:42.000 Bang, bang, bang, bang.

00:54:43.000 That's his thing.

00:54:44.000 That guy, you get caught in Paul Sass' guard, you gotta fucking get out of there and run.

00:54:48.000 That motherfucker would triangle the shit out of you.

00:54:51.000 It's weird.

00:54:51.000 Other guys, their triangle's just dogshit weak.

00:54:54.000 You could find a way to get out.

00:54:55.000 High level guys, too.

00:54:57.000 I'll do Darces on guys.

00:54:58.000 Super high level guys.

00:55:00.000 And then I'm like, you're not a Darce guy?

00:55:01.000 They're like, no.

00:55:02.000 They don't even mess with it.

00:55:04.000 They don't even care to mess with it.

00:55:05.000 I don't understand that.

00:55:05.000 They do arm bars or whatever.

00:55:07.000 I don't understand that.

00:55:08.000 Darce is such a potent weapon.

00:55:10.000 Especially in MMA. The reason I developed it a lot is because with Shane Carr when it was shooting in on me, I had to come up with something.

00:55:18.000 Right.

00:55:18.000 So it's guillotines and darses.

00:55:20.000 Had to come up with something out of desperation.

00:55:22.000 I would attack his feet and he just punched me in the face.

00:55:25.000 Can't get enough of that back kick.

00:55:27.000 Burrell's a beast, man.

00:55:28.000 He's a motherfucker, dude.

00:55:29.000 He is as good as it gets.

00:55:31.000 Longest undefeated winning streak in MMA. Is that true?

00:55:35.000 That's crazy.

00:55:35.000 That's true.

00:55:36.000 At that weight class, too.

00:55:38.000 38, I think, right?

00:55:39.000 It's something crazy.

00:55:40.000 Let's find out.

00:55:40.000 What a genius.

00:55:41.000 I want to say it's 36-38.

00:55:43.000 Well, when your training partner is Jose Aldo.

00:55:47.000 No, the thing is, the weight class he's in.

00:55:49.000 He's fighting black belts and everything.

00:55:52.000 It's hard to even comprehend that long of a fight streak.

00:55:55.000 As a fighter, to me, that's insane.

00:55:56.000 With that kind of speed and stuff, too, like where everybody's fast.

00:55:59.000 He's got a lot of length.

00:56:00.000 Yeah, let's see.

00:56:01.000 How about Daniel Cormier, who's about 5'1", picking dudes up, and just look at that.

00:56:07.000 He's not 5'1".

00:56:08.000 No, I know.

00:56:08.000 He's like 5'8", though.

00:56:09.000 5'9".

00:56:10.000 He's not that much taller than that.

00:56:11.000 He's 5'11".

00:56:12.000 That's absolutely a lie.

00:56:14.000 I stood next to him.

00:56:15.000 I towered over him.

00:56:16.000 He was like, man, you're tall.

00:56:18.000 I was like, thanks, man.

00:56:18.000 He goes, I love your work.

00:56:20.000 He never said that.

00:56:21.000 He goes, you're my favorite actor.

00:56:22.000 I was like, thank you.

00:56:23.000 I was like, that's so sweet.

00:56:25.000 And you're way more athletic in person.

00:56:26.000 I was like, I know.

00:56:27.000 I wrestled in high school.

00:56:28.000 Six feet tall.

00:56:28.000 Go fuck yourself.

00:56:29.000 You're out of your mind.

00:56:30.000 Six feet tall.

00:56:31.000 I was towering.

00:56:32.000 I was literally eating peanut butter on his head.

00:56:34.000 You were wearing stilts.

00:56:35.000 I was.

00:56:36.000 That's true.

00:56:36.000 That part is true.

00:56:37.000 You were wearing women's shoes.

00:56:37.000 I do wear it.

00:56:38.000 I do wear it.

00:56:38.000 Oh, this is a good fight.

00:56:40.000 Neil Magny and Tim Means is a good fight.

00:56:41.000 Neil Magny I trained with in Denver.

00:56:43.000 We used to call him the Gazelle because this kid's cardio is insane.

00:56:49.000 Really?

00:56:49.000 Insane, man.

00:56:49.000 That guy has fangs.

00:56:50.000 He's so tough.

00:56:52.000 He's really tough.

00:56:53.000 Tim Means is so tough.

00:56:53.000 And Means is an animal too.

00:56:55.000 Both guys are animals.

00:56:56.000 And both guys are very similar.

00:56:57.000 Real tall guys for 55. And Means, he knocked out Pete Spratt at 170, man.

00:57:03.000 Listen, the difference between Means and Magny, and Magny's my boy, but the difference is Means is just nothing.

00:57:10.000 Nasty!

00:57:11.000 And he switches things up.

00:57:12.000 You'll see Neal, his movement's great, but it's more of like a point scoring system for him.

00:57:18.000 He's just touching.

00:57:20.000 Neal, I don't think has ever knocked anyone out in his life.

00:57:23.000 All he's doing is beating you off points.

00:57:25.000 You'll see a jab, a right hand, jab, right hand, and he's just moving the whole time.

00:57:29.000 Means does not play that, man.

00:57:31.000 Means reminds me of a Carlos Condit.

00:57:34.000 Isn't that interesting?

00:57:34.000 That's one of the reasons why Magni can keep going forever and ever.

00:57:38.000 It's just like that he's not putting 100% to everything.

00:57:41.000 That's a weird thing, isn't it?

00:57:43.000 Where you're not totally 100% committing to techniques, but you can keep going for way longer with that.

00:57:51.000 What do you think about that?

00:57:53.000 You have to have a mix of that.

00:57:56.000 You have to.

00:57:57.000 You look at the guys at the top, there's a mix.

00:57:59.000 Right.

00:58:00.000 You can't go full blast.

00:58:01.000 For instance, if we look at the fights recently, look at Travis Brown.

00:58:05.000 And I talked to Verdum last Tuesday about this.

00:58:09.000 Verdum said every shot that Travis was thrown had bad intentions, knockout power.

00:58:14.000 He was trying to knock him out in one shot.

00:58:16.000 He wasn't putting combos together.

00:58:17.000 It makes for at a high level, that's not going to work, man.

00:58:21.000 Guys see it and they're getting out of the way and they're going to take you down.

00:58:24.000 You said about Travis Brown, you said there's no method to the madness.

00:58:29.000 You said there's nothing behind, there's no strategy behind that.

00:58:33.000 Listen, you can't floor your car in 7th gear and it's going to burn out.

00:58:39.000 You just can't do it.

00:58:39.000 You have to use all the gears.

00:58:41.000 And the guys at the very highest level are using all the gears.

00:58:44.000 Like look at Dos Santos.

00:58:46.000 He comes out very relaxed, jab, jab, and then you're going to see a big shot, and he's back down to 2nd gear.

00:58:51.000 But he's not chilling at 7th gear like Shane Carlin.

00:58:54.000 Yeah, I see what you're saying.

00:58:56.000 I would just say 1st gear.

00:58:58.000 Not 1st gear, you know what I'm saying.

00:58:59.000 2nd gear is more chilling, 3rd gear.

00:59:00.000 But yeah, I know what you're saying.

00:59:02.000 Yeah, I think that there's some...

00:59:04.000 It's not good.

00:59:04.000 Yeah.

00:59:05.000 It's not good.

00:59:06.000 There's some guys who do fight like that, though.

00:59:08.000 They just explode, explode, explode, explode, explode.

00:59:10.000 And then by the time the third round comes, they're like...

00:59:13.000 At a high level, guys are like, cool.

00:59:15.000 We're going to drag his ass to the third round.

00:59:17.000 The third round, we're going to go to work and submit this for him.

00:59:19.000 That's why I was really interested to see what would happen with Tyron Woodley and Carlos Condit.

00:59:26.000 I agree.

00:59:27.000 You're going to see it in Roy McDonald though.

00:59:29.000 Roy McDonald drag his athlete once.

00:59:31.000 Maybe.

00:59:33.000 If he can survive the onslaught.

00:59:35.000 Woodley is so fucking fast and strong.

00:59:38.000 So athletic, man.

00:59:39.000 You should see this guy in the gym hit mitts.

00:59:41.000 No, I didn't want to see it.

00:59:41.000 I'm scared.

00:59:42.000 It's insane.

00:59:44.000 Bro, it's insane.

00:59:45.000 I almost spit my wine.

00:59:47.000 I don't want to see it.

00:59:48.000 And he might play third in Mr. Olympia right now.

00:59:50.000 Best body I've ever seen.

00:59:52.000 Why would you wear clothes when you walk to the grocery store?

00:59:56.000 It's ridiculous.

00:59:56.000 Just wear a bandana.

00:59:57.000 And a feather.

00:59:58.000 Forget it.

00:59:59.000 I hope.

01:00:00.000 Bro, I saw him hit mitts with his trainer arm.

01:00:02.000 Has he got a piece on?

01:00:03.000 Real Pete had some tight Valley Tudor shorts on.

01:00:06.000 God bless him.

01:00:06.000 No shirt.

01:00:07.000 I had things to do.

01:00:08.000 I just chilled.

01:00:09.000 Watched him.

01:00:10.000 Man.

01:00:11.000 I had things to do.

01:00:12.000 I had things to do, man.

01:00:13.000 How often is it a wild card?

01:00:15.000 What's up?

01:00:15.000 He's not an L.A. guy.

01:00:17.000 How often is he out here?

01:00:18.000 He's out here because striking coach Arnold is out of wild card.

01:00:21.000 So he's out here all the time.

01:00:22.000 Funny thing about Arnold, I met Arnold doing...

01:00:24.000 Stunt director, right?

01:00:25.000 Yeah, I was an extra in a B-movie with Heath Herring.

01:00:28.000 And Heath Haring was beating me up and stealing my girlfriend in the movie.

01:00:31.000 And Arnold was the stunt coordinator.

01:00:33.000 What's Heath doing now?

01:00:34.000 He's playing poker?

01:00:35.000 He's playing poker.

01:00:36.000 Heath Haring is?

01:00:37.000 Yeah.

01:00:37.000 Heath Haring is playing poker?

01:00:39.000 Yeah.

01:00:40.000 One more round shirt.

01:00:41.000 What a fucking legit wild man Heath Haring is.

01:00:43.000 I'll never forget his fight with Tom Erickson.

01:00:46.000 Tom Erickson was on top of him, dominating him.

01:00:49.000 And he was getting tired, and they stood him up in pride.

01:00:52.000 And when they stood him up, Heath Heron just goes, Woo!

01:00:56.000 Fucking slaps his hands together.

01:00:58.000 And Erickson was like, Oh, fucking Christ.

01:01:00.000 And he just charged after Heron and smashed him.

01:01:03.000 Remember when that dude kissed him?

01:01:05.000 And he knocked him out.

01:01:06.000 Classic.

01:01:08.000 At the fucking stare down.

01:01:09.000 At the stare down.

01:01:10.000 He kisses him.

01:01:11.000 Whack!

01:01:11.000 Kicked him out.

01:01:13.000 He just shook his head before he punched him.

01:01:16.000 Boom!

01:01:16.000 You can tell he thought about it.

01:01:17.000 He's like, oh hell no.

01:01:18.000 Fuck this.

01:01:19.000 Fuck it.

01:01:19.000 Boom!

01:01:20.000 He got suspended.

01:01:21.000 That was dope.

01:01:23.000 They probably gave him some money too, though.

01:01:25.000 These guys are very similar, but the difference in this fight will be Tim Means just has a nasty, nasty streak.

01:01:32.000 Oh, this is 170. Yes.

01:01:33.000 Means has been fighting at 55, though.

01:01:35.000 Has he not?

01:01:37.000 He's been fighting in MFC. He's been fighting in MFC. But before that, when he fought in the UFC, I believe he's fighting...

01:01:44.000 Look at this look.

01:01:44.000 What are we doing?

01:01:46.000 He does remind me of Carlos Comet.

01:01:48.000 Right?

01:01:49.000 Yeah, he's fought in lightweight.

01:01:50.000 Or me.

01:01:51.000 He fought lightweight quite a few times.

01:01:53.000 I'm going to get some tattoos.

01:01:54.000 What kind of tattoos should I get, guys?

01:01:56.000 You should get a dove.

01:01:57.000 Yeah, he fought Danny Castillo.

01:01:59.000 You should get a big dick on your chest like Brock Lesnar.

01:02:01.000 And a dove.

01:02:02.000 A dove with a dick flying through.

01:02:03.000 He lost twice in the UFC at lightweight.

01:02:05.000 He lost against Masvidal, and he lost against Danny Castillo.

01:02:08.000 So I think that he was having a hard time making that weight.

01:02:11.000 And why would he?

01:02:12.000 He's only six foot fucking two.

01:02:14.000 These crazy assholes.

01:02:16.000 Magny's 6'3", bro.

01:02:16.000 I know.

01:02:17.000 These crazy fuckers that drop all that weight.

01:02:19.000 Those are my boys, Lauren Lando, in the back.

01:02:21.000 6'3", 170, and he's got muscle on him.

01:02:22.000 That's crazy.

01:02:23.000 I mean, that's...

01:02:24.000 Magny's reach is insane.

01:02:26.000 Yeah.

01:02:27.000 Like I said, the difference is, these guys are very similar, same size.

01:02:30.000 Magny has great footwork, but Tim Means just has this killer instinct.

01:02:34.000 Where's Magny out of?

01:02:35.000 Jackson?

01:02:36.000 Denver.

01:02:36.000 No, Denver.

01:02:37.000 Okay.

01:02:37.000 Yeah, Means is like a dirty mountain boy.

01:02:40.000 Means is like, you want to go to the ground?

01:02:42.000 Cool.

01:02:42.000 Does not care where it goes, man.

01:02:44.000 He just wants to finish the fight.

01:02:45.000 But Magny will not get tired, huh?

01:02:46.000 Nope.

01:02:47.000 Means has got real good head movement, too.

01:02:48.000 I like how he, that long reach, another thing that people don't talk about, about long reach.

01:02:53.000 Yeah, but the long reach, the ability to bend at the waist and move away from shit, that's one of the things that Jon Jones does so well.

01:03:01.000 Best in the world.

01:03:02.000 Moving away from shit.

01:03:03.000 Not getting hit.

01:03:04.000 Yeah.

01:03:05.000 I guarantee you the game plan here for Neil Magny is don't, as soon as you hit the cage, get off.

01:03:12.000 You're going to see him circling, constantly circling.

01:03:14.000 It's interesting how different body types have different advantages.

01:03:17.000 Like, you got that Husamar Paul Jarez body.

01:03:20.000 What?

01:03:21.000 That is just a huge advantage.

01:03:22.000 Made for ripping off legs?

01:03:24.000 Ripping off legs.

01:03:26.000 And if you watch this fight with Ivan Salivari, basically anything he does in grappling, he's just so ridiculously strong.

01:03:31.000 He just came out of his mom and put her in an ankle lock.

01:03:33.000 Just a ridiculous dude.

01:03:35.000 Did you ever see a video of him rolling with Mayhem Miller?

01:03:38.000 Yeah.

01:03:38.000 I talked to Mayhem about that.

01:03:40.000 Mayhem said he was really hungover, though.

01:03:42.000 Yeah, whatever, whatever.

01:03:43.000 I would say that, too, if I got fucking hip-tossed and strangled like that.

01:03:46.000 And Mayhem is such a monster, you know, for a guy like me.

01:03:51.000 Paul Haar is a scary guy.

01:03:52.000 Me and Dove Davidoff tried to fight Mayhem one time.

01:03:55.000 We tried to grab him, and he...

01:03:56.000 Ooh, good jab.

01:03:57.000 See, I like this moving out of Neal.

01:03:59.000 But like I said, you see what I mean by point sparring?

01:04:02.000 It's just jab, move, jab, move, jab, move.

01:04:04.000 There's no bad intentions.

01:04:06.000 Yeah, he's not loading up on anything.

01:04:07.000 So what's the difference between his style and the Diaz brothers then?

01:04:11.000 Because they kind of have that style.

01:04:11.000 The Diaz brothers load up eventually, but they'll pop, [...

01:04:19.000 Diaz is almost like a machine gun.

01:04:21.000 It's like...

01:04:22.000 For five rounds.

01:04:23.000 They also seem like high-level boxers in comparison.

01:04:26.000 Well, Diaz has an incredible chin, especially Nick.

01:04:29.000 They just come forward.

01:04:30.000 They just keep coming.

01:04:31.000 Nick has an incredible chin.

01:04:32.000 And then eventually just wears guys out.

01:04:33.000 Well, Frank Shamrock said it best when he fought Nick Diaz.

01:04:37.000 He's like, you can't breathe because he's always hitting you.

01:04:40.000 And every time he hits you, you tighten up.

01:04:41.000 Because even if it's only a 50% shot, you still have to hold your breath.

01:04:45.000 And then he rips you to the body.

01:04:47.000 Oh, wow.

01:04:48.000 You never breathe.

01:04:49.000 And he's landing 80% of those 50 shots.

01:04:52.000 It's crazy, man.

01:04:53.000 And he does triathlons.

01:04:55.000 And he swam back from Alcatraz twice.

01:04:58.000 Come on, stop it.

01:04:59.000 Yes, he did.

01:04:59.000 Are you kidding?

01:05:00.000 Shark-infested water.

01:05:01.000 He's out of his mind.

01:05:02.000 I love that guy more than I love that guy.

01:05:03.000 I asked him to come on the podcast.

01:05:05.000 I just don't believe he'll show up.

01:05:07.000 I would have him on.

01:05:08.000 I love that fucking guy like I love my mother, but I would only have him on if I had a backup guest.

01:05:13.000 I'm coming.

01:05:13.000 Please, please, please.

01:05:15.000 They took his brother out of the rankings, huh?

01:05:18.000 Yeah, I don't know about all that.

01:05:20.000 I don't know what that was all about.

01:05:21.000 That bothers me.

01:05:22.000 He just doesn't want to fight, huh?

01:05:23.000 No, he wants more money.

01:05:25.000 He wants more money because he found out what Gilbert got.

01:05:27.000 Because Gilbert's his buddy.

01:05:28.000 And there was a contract negotiation with Gilbert.

01:05:31.000 Bellator was trying to pick up Gilbert when his contract was over.

01:05:34.000 And they gave Gilbert a shit ton of money.

01:05:36.000 And Nate is like, what the fuck?

01:05:38.000 And so there's some sort of contract negotiation.

01:05:40.000 You can't be mad at that.

01:05:42.000 They should pay Nate.

01:05:43.000 Nate's awesome.

01:05:43.000 I love Nate, and I agree.

01:05:44.000 But I don't know who his manager is.

01:05:46.000 I don't know who negotiated his contract.

01:05:48.000 I don't know what the deal is.

01:05:50.000 But a deal's a deal's a deal's a deal.

01:05:52.000 You gotta stick to it, guys.

01:05:54.000 Nice takedown by Neil.

01:05:55.000 It's one of those things where you talk publicly, you talk shit about the UFC. You're not going to win, man.

01:06:01.000 What motivation do they have to give you more money?

01:06:05.000 Well, the other thing is, too, is guys forget there's no bigger guy than the UFC. The UFC's going to keep on...

01:06:11.000 The circus keeps on going.

01:06:12.000 If one of the elephants fall out, the circus keeps on going, man.

01:06:15.000 How about Eddie Alvarez backing out of the fucking Michael Chandler?

01:06:18.000 Oh, Bellator's first pay-per-view?

01:06:20.000 Whoops.

01:06:20.000 Wow.

01:06:21.000 It's gone.

01:06:22.000 It's going to evaporate.

01:06:23.000 There's not going to be a pay-per-view.

01:06:24.000 No, they're still doing it.

01:06:25.000 They found a backup, right?

01:06:26.000 Some guy filled in.

01:06:28.000 I've never heard of him.

01:06:29.000 That's the problem.

01:06:30.000 Oh, no.

01:06:30.000 Are you serious?

01:06:30.000 And now you want people's money?

01:06:32.000 This is a really strange fight because it almost looks like they're sparring and it doesn't matter.

01:06:36.000 I told you it's a lot of point sparring.

01:06:37.000 Yeah.

01:06:38.000 They just don't look that...

01:06:39.000 It's interesting.

01:06:42.000 Tim Means is a slow starter, too.

01:06:44.000 Wait until the second and third round.

01:06:46.000 He literally doesn't seem concerned about any low kicks whatsoever.

01:06:48.000 He's just kind of...

01:06:49.000 Oh!

01:06:52.000 By the way, this might be one of my favorite podcasts ever.

01:06:57.000 Just hanging out watching fights, ladies and gentlemen.

01:07:00.000 Watching fights.

01:07:01.000 Just four guys with their pants.

01:07:03.000 Oh!

01:07:04.000 Magni tagged him!

01:07:05.000 Nice left by Magni.

01:07:06.000 Now you should have kept...

01:07:08.000 Look, it means fucking hanging in there, man.

01:07:11.000 I'm sorry, Brian, are you coaching?

01:07:12.000 No, I wasn't.

01:07:13.000 You should have what?

01:07:14.000 See, I stopped myself.

01:07:15.000 I was like, hold on.

01:07:16.000 Brian and I have conversations, and they're not nearly as frustrating to me as they must be to you.

01:07:21.000 Brian and I have conversations.

01:07:22.000 I just sit on the outside and call the fights.

01:07:25.000 But Brian and I have conversations, and I go...

01:07:28.000 That's not how it works.

01:07:31.000 Why don't guys just crescent kick?

01:07:34.000 There's no crescent kicks.

01:07:35.000 You haven't seen my crescent kicks.

01:07:37.000 Last weekend during the Mayweather fight, I had to look over him.

01:07:40.000 I go, hey bro, do you mind just shutting the fuck up for two rounds for me?

01:07:43.000 And he goes, nah, nah, nah.

01:07:46.000 Can't shut up, bro.

01:07:47.000 You need my point of view.

01:07:48.000 Agni's up 1-0 for sure.

01:07:51.000 I want to get a shirt that says Venom.

01:07:52.000 So get a dove, huh?

01:07:53.000 How about Venom as a...

01:07:54.000 I need a good cotton tattoo.

01:07:57.000 You do need a couple tats.

01:07:59.000 You know, I have a problem.

01:08:00.000 The only problem that I have with Bellator, the only problem is that there's not cross-fights.

01:08:05.000 What do you mean?

01:08:06.000 Like, you know how, like, if a Bob Arum-promoted fighter wants to fight a Golden Boy-promoted fighter, they figure out a way to make it happen.

01:08:14.000 Except for Pacquiao-Mayweather.

01:08:15.000 Except for Pacquiao-Mayweather.

01:08:16.000 And arguably, that might be Mayweather doesn't want to fight Pacquiao-wise.

01:08:19.000 No, I heard otherwise.

01:08:22.000 Pacquiao?

01:08:22.000 Yes.

01:08:22.000 Didn't want to fight Mayweather?

01:08:24.000 Didn't want to do the drug test.

01:08:25.000 Oh.

01:08:26.000 I don't know about that.

01:08:27.000 I don't know.

01:08:28.000 It might be true.

01:08:29.000 I mean, total, complete speculation.

01:08:32.000 That also could be propaganda from the Mayweather camp.

01:08:34.000 I'm not inside enough to speculate.

01:08:37.000 However...

01:08:38.000 What were you saying, though, about matchmaking?

01:08:39.000 Where there's smoke, there's fire.

01:08:41.000 So many people have said that Pacquiao's doing something.

01:08:43.000 When a guy moves up one weight class, you go, well, that's normal.

01:08:47.000 The guy's growing.

01:08:48.000 When a guy moves up eight...

01:08:50.000 Weak classes.

01:08:51.000 And knocks bitches out.

01:08:52.000 And knocks bitches out.

01:08:53.000 That's a lot.

01:08:53.000 It's like, that's weird.

01:08:55.000 Okay.

01:08:55.000 You know, speaking as a guy who's actually done steroids, I would say maybe he's done some steroids.

01:09:00.000 I'd say maybe he has.

01:09:00.000 I'm just saying.

01:09:01.000 I'm just saying.

01:09:02.000 I used to take this shit called MAG-10 that used to buy at GNC. All the shit I've done.

01:09:07.000 Testosterone replacement, all the shit I've done.

01:09:09.000 MAG-10 was the craziest shit, and I couldn't believe you could buy it.

01:09:13.000 Was that the shit like Martin Reward and all the guys were taking it?

01:09:16.000 No, no, no.

01:09:16.000 They would take Industream Dione.

01:09:18.000 I don't know what this MAG-10 was, but they made it illegal quick.

01:09:22.000 I did a cycle with it, I grew tits, my dick was as hard as a telephone pole.

01:09:28.000 The cat couldn't scratch it.

01:09:29.000 It was unbelievable.

01:09:31.000 I've never had roid rage with anything that I've ever done, because I'm a pretty calm guy, but the closest I ever got to roid rage is this shit.

01:09:39.000 On that stuff, huh?

01:09:39.000 You would take 10 pills a day.

01:09:41.000 You would buy it at the store, take 10 pills a day, And I was like, how could I gain 10 pounds of muscle in six weeks.

01:09:51.000 And I'm not joking.

01:09:54.000 Well, here's how I know it's not healthy.

01:09:56.000 Because when I stopped taking it, my dick just went, hey, I'm going camping.

01:10:01.000 My dick was like, hey, I quit.

01:10:03.000 I quit.

01:10:05.000 My dick wasn't normal for a month and a half.

01:10:07.000 Internet searches for Mag10 just went through the fucking roof.

01:10:10.000 I know, I know, I know.

01:10:11.000 Well, it's not legal.

01:10:12.000 You can't buy it anymore.

01:10:13.000 Okay, let me see if I can find it.

01:10:15.000 If anybody finds Mag07, it just makes you shit, so don't get excited.

01:10:19.000 You'll find that in the store.

01:10:21.000 And that's the thing that I'll say that I did steroids because I did this.

01:10:25.000 I mean, even though it's not considered a steroid because you could buy it at GMC. GNC, rather.

01:10:31.000 It's fucking steroids, man.

01:10:34.000 Biotest Mag10.

01:10:36.000 It doesn't exist anymore.

01:10:39.000 You can't buy it anymore.

01:10:40.000 Yeah, 2001. It's illegal now.

01:10:45.000 Yeah.

01:10:47.000 It was incredible.

01:10:52.000 Might have been the greatest thing I've ever taken in my life.

01:10:56.000 It's 10 pounds of muscle.

01:10:58.000 I'm sure you didn't take the daily recommended dose.

01:11:00.000 I did.

01:11:01.000 Well, the daily recommended dose, whatever it did, turned you into a fucking monkey.

01:11:05.000 It was crazy.

01:11:07.000 I can't figure out what the game plan is for either one of these guys.

01:11:10.000 I was recovering from an ACL injury, so I was taking it.

01:11:14.000 At the same time I was taking it, I was really lifting really heavy because I couldn't do any jiu-jitsu.

01:11:19.000 Upper body?

01:11:19.000 Yeah, yeah, all upper body.

01:11:21.000 Lower body, for the first couple months, all I was doing was bodyweight squats, just very light, trying to increase my flexibility and all that.

01:11:30.000 Tim Means, all over him, man.

01:11:32.000 I like his nickname too, Dirty Bird.

01:11:35.000 Dirty Bird.

01:11:36.000 Dirty Bird just said, sponsors?

01:11:38.000 Nah, I'm good.

01:11:38.000 You know what I like about Magnin?

01:11:40.000 I'm good.

01:11:40.000 Put my Dirty Bird logo on the back.

01:11:42.000 He's kneeing the back of his legs.

01:11:43.000 You know what I like about Bellator?

01:11:45.000 Jimmy Smith.

01:11:46.000 That motherfucker.

01:11:47.000 Great guy.

01:11:48.000 And fucking on point as a commentator.

01:11:51.000 Clear.

01:11:51.000 He's very clear.

01:11:52.000 Very clear.

01:11:53.000 Knows his shit.

01:11:54.000 Black belt in jujitsu.

01:11:55.000 Damn, Means hitting him with the head.

01:11:57.000 Means to the head when he was on the ground.

01:11:58.000 Come on, ref!

01:11:59.000 What the fuck, man?

01:12:00.000 I think he was up.

01:12:01.000 He definitely got one in while his hand was down.

01:12:03.000 One or two for sure.

01:12:05.000 It's a tricky thing, man.

01:12:06.000 I don't like that knee-to-the-ground thing, knee-on-the-ground fighter.

01:12:09.000 Because you can kind of sit there, right?

01:12:11.000 Well, you can job the system by touching your hand and lifting it up and touching your hand and lifting it up.

01:12:16.000 That doesn't make sense for fighting to me.

01:12:18.000 No.

01:12:19.000 I think the knees to the head for a grounded opponent should be legal unless a part of your body is touching the cage.

01:12:25.000 Why did they make that illegal?

01:12:26.000 Because it's dangerous?

01:12:27.000 This is where I think it should be illegal.

01:12:29.000 When a guy's got his head pressed up against the cage, you can't go anywhere.

01:12:33.000 You can't move.

01:12:34.000 That's why I like soccer kicks and stomps and pride, because you could always spin your head around and go under the cage to avoid the technique.

01:12:42.000 You know why I don't think they ever make that legal?

01:12:45.000 Because America's not ready for it.

01:12:47.000 They think the sport's too violent as it is now.

01:12:50.000 Then the terrorists win.

01:12:51.000 The terrorists win.

01:12:52.000 You can't punt somebody's head like a soccer ball.

01:12:54.000 But why not?

01:12:56.000 It would hurt.

01:12:57.000 Give me some of that fancy wine, son.

01:13:00.000 You would get unwanted press.

01:13:01.000 Yeah, but I don't believe in unwanted press.

01:13:03.000 I think it's bullshit as long as you can debate it.

01:13:05.000 Why should you be allowed to wheel kick a guy in the head but you can't soccer kick him?

01:13:09.000 I agree.

01:13:09.000 Probably because a wheel kick is harder to get off.

01:13:11.000 So what?

01:13:14.000 Straight soccer kick Ron Waterman in the face.

01:13:16.000 Oh god, horrific.

01:13:18.000 Little story about Ron Waterman.

01:13:19.000 Choked me out with his titties when I was a white belt.

01:13:22.000 Literally put my face between his tits and choked me out.

01:13:24.000 Come on, really?

01:13:25.000 Unconscious?

01:13:27.000 Unconscious or you tapped?

01:13:28.000 I tapped.

01:13:29.000 But he almost broke my nose.

01:13:30.000 He almost broke my nose.

01:13:31.000 He was a big fuck.

01:13:32.000 And he was doing it for Jesus.

01:13:33.000 Real set of tits on him, though.

01:13:34.000 Hurt my nose, man.

01:13:35.000 And he was choking you for Jesus, right?

01:13:37.000 Huge.

01:13:37.000 Choked me for Jesus.

01:13:38.000 Did he give you a cross afterwards or maybe a Bible quote?

01:13:40.000 He gave me a little pep talk.

01:13:41.000 Slap on the ass, give me a pep talk.

01:13:44.000 Bought me a sandwich.

01:13:45.000 I was super embarrassed.

01:13:46.000 Shane goes, don't worry, brother.

01:13:48.000 He did that to me before.

01:13:50.000 Look at that sandwich.

01:13:50.000 The KFC thing that they're promoting, that double down.

01:13:53.000 I'm a big fan of that.

01:13:54.000 Hell no!

01:13:55.000 I haven't had fast food in almost 12 years.

01:13:57.000 You don't need to have it.

01:13:58.000 You know, there's a place in Montreal called Joe Beef, and they did a variation on the double down.

01:14:04.000 Ready for this?

01:14:05.000 Two chunks of foie gras.

01:14:08.000 So two pieces of deep fried duck liver.

01:14:11.000 Yeah.

01:14:12.000 In between bacon and cheese.

01:14:15.000 And it might be the best thing I've ever had in my life.

01:14:17.000 You know what?

01:14:17.000 I don't like shitting my pants, so I don't eat that stuff.

01:14:21.000 I do not eat that stuff.

01:14:23.000 Bro, you want to shit your pants?

01:14:25.000 Okay, I don't, but go ahead.

01:14:28.000 Thanks.

01:14:28.000 Hey, thanks.

01:14:29.000 No, good question.

01:14:30.000 Good question.

01:14:31.000 Absolutely not.

01:14:32.000 If you want to shit your pants...

01:14:35.000 Drink a shitload of coconut oil.

01:14:38.000 Okay.

01:14:39.000 MCT oil.

01:14:40.000 Sure.

01:14:40.000 Oh, I drink that shit every day.

01:14:42.000 Not a heavy dose.

01:14:43.000 Heavy dose in the morning...

01:14:45.000 I had to run back.

01:14:46.000 I was headed to the gym.

01:14:47.000 I had to run back.

01:14:47.000 Nothing has made me rocket shit out of my asshole like kale shakes.

01:14:52.000 I drink a kale shake in the morning.

01:14:54.000 Those don't bother me.

01:14:55.000 For me.

01:14:55.000 It doesn't bother me, but it's basically like forcing Roto-Rooter down the drain.

01:15:02.000 Well, they say you're not supposed to drink too many kale shakes, too many spinach shakes and things because it's a big leafy green vegetable.

01:15:10.000 There's a lot of toxins in the leaf.

01:15:11.000 No, there's not toxins.

01:15:13.000 It's exolic acid.

01:15:13.000 It's healthy.

01:15:14.000 Brian, you could use that.

01:15:16.000 You look malnerved.

01:15:18.000 Hey, listen, knucklehead.

01:15:18.000 You've got to stop saying shit like that when you don't research it.

01:15:21.000 I have researched it.

01:15:22.000 No, you haven't.

01:15:23.000 Because you can counteract all that stuff with calcium.

01:15:25.000 Oxalic acid is the problem, but you can counteract it with calcium.

01:15:28.000 No, no, no.

01:15:28.000 Here's what they'll say about it.

01:15:30.000 Google it before you say anything.

01:15:36.000 You're like the CrossFit guy with tits.

01:15:39.000 Leafy greens, here's the issue.

01:15:42.000 Everyone stop listening right now.

01:15:43.000 The problem is that a lot of times leafy greens, because they have to keep insects and vermin away, they produce something called oxalic acid.

01:15:53.000 You counter that with calcium.

01:15:54.000 Just go online.

01:15:55.000 It's not just oxalic acid.

01:15:56.000 Shut the fuck up.

01:15:57.000 It's not just oxalic acid.

01:15:59.000 What are these other things?

01:16:00.000 Meanwhile, Tim Means is all over.

01:16:01.000 Neil Magny.

01:16:02.000 That's what I was going to say.

01:16:03.000 This is a close fight.

01:16:05.000 This is a super close fight.

01:16:06.000 Neil won the first round.

01:16:06.000 What other things, Brian?

01:16:08.000 Google it.

01:16:08.000 Google it and then come back.

01:16:09.000 Toxins that keep insects away.

01:16:12.000 There's no other toxins.

01:16:13.000 You don't know.

01:16:14.000 I know better than you.

01:16:15.000 You're not a green leaf expert, bro.

01:16:17.000 You should start drinking green shakes.

01:16:18.000 I'm an expert in Googling shit before I talk about it.

01:16:20.000 Okay, I have a very popular podcast.

01:16:22.000 I've had several scientists on my podcast.

01:16:23.000 Oh, Tim Means with the fucking power guillotine!

01:16:25.000 He got out of it again.

01:16:26.000 When guys go to their back.

01:16:28.000 Guys go to their back.

01:16:29.000 That's twice we've seen that with Cariasso.

01:16:32.000 Mary Dos Santos and Kane, same thing.

01:16:34.000 Look at Sean Shelby texting people, not even watching the fights.

01:16:37.000 Guy's fucking ringside, the greatest fucking sporting event.

01:16:39.000 Look at Bruce Buffer.

01:16:40.000 He's sleeping.

01:16:41.000 He's sleeping.

01:16:42.000 Sean Shelby's texting people.

01:16:43.000 That's when you know you've been to too many fights.

01:16:45.000 You're never going to see that from me, man.

01:16:47.000 Never going to see that from me.

01:16:48.000 You see me ringside in a fight, you see me either glued to a monitor or watching the fights.

01:16:53.000 People always ask me that.

01:16:54.000 Are you bored?

01:16:55.000 Fucking never.

01:16:56.000 Never.

01:16:57.000 When those bells ring, especially a fight like this, this is a great fucking fight.

01:17:01.000 Back and forth, for sure.

01:17:03.000 Fuck yeah, man.

01:17:04.000 This is a great fight.

01:17:06.000 Brian, Google it.

01:17:07.000 Just Google it so you know for yourself that you're wrong.

01:17:10.000 Dave Asprey?

01:17:11.000 Dave Asprey and John Durant.

01:17:13.000 I believe.

01:17:13.000 Dave Asprey, you fuck.

01:17:14.000 You're not even paying attention.

01:17:15.000 Dave Asprey offers solutions.

01:17:18.000 He offers solutions.

01:17:19.000 Calcium is one of them.

01:17:22.000 Fuck.

01:17:22.000 You hurt my feelings because I love you.

01:17:24.000 Whatever, dude.

01:17:25.000 I love you, but you give out shitty information and then I get tweets by the thousands.

01:17:30.000 They fucking hate.

01:17:32.000 They hate.

01:17:33.000 It comes at me.

01:17:34.000 I'm like, I love them.

01:17:34.000 I hate them.

01:17:35.000 You don't know them.

01:17:37.000 You tell your fucking listeners.

01:17:38.000 We're flawed.

01:17:39.000 I'm flawed, too.

01:17:41.000 Everyone's flawed.

01:17:43.000 You know, I have a real problem with people that only complain about people.

01:17:46.000 They don't talk shit about themselves.

01:17:48.000 That really bothers me.

01:17:49.000 There's a lot of that with people who write blogs.

01:17:52.000 I never talk shit about anybody.

01:17:53.000 It's a bore.

01:17:54.000 You're just talking shit about vegetables.

01:17:55.000 I don't appreciate it.

01:17:56.000 You're talking shit about spinach.

01:17:58.000 I spinach.

01:17:58.000 I juice every morning, you fuck.

01:18:01.000 Every morning.

01:18:02.000 Yeah.

01:18:02.000 I feel great.

01:18:03.000 You look very toxic.

01:18:03.000 Spinach has feelings too, bro.

01:18:05.000 Brennan looks pretty healthy, by the way.

01:18:06.000 He's a healthy fucking animal.

01:18:08.000 Look at him.

01:18:08.000 He's a savage.

01:18:09.000 He looks pretty healthy.

01:18:09.000 He better be healthy.

01:18:10.000 He's a fucking UFC fighter.

01:18:11.000 Yeah.

01:18:11.000 He's got no choice, really.

01:18:12.000 He's a professional cage fighter.

01:18:14.000 I don't have many convictions, by the way.

01:18:15.000 Oh!

01:18:15.000 I don't fight for my point of view.

01:18:17.000 Look at this.

01:18:17.000 That could be the difference.

01:18:18.000 And look at me.

01:18:19.000 It's starting to slow down.

01:18:21.000 Neil Magdy's main training partner, Nate Markhart.

01:18:23.000 Is that right?

01:18:24.000 Yeah.

01:18:25.000 Oh, boy.

01:18:25.000 Nate...

01:18:26.000 Oh!

01:18:27.000 Boy!

01:18:28.000 Wow, so close.

01:18:29.000 Means fucking exploded out of the gates of hell.

01:18:32.000 He's got him in his long legs, man.

01:18:34.000 Good body triangle.

01:18:35.000 Or good, rather, back mount.

01:18:37.000 Look at that.

01:18:38.000 Switches to mount.

01:18:39.000 When Neil came off, I think he was the Ultimate Fighter 14, when Shane Carwin was the coach, he lived with Nate Mercart and his wife.

01:18:46.000 They loved having him around so much, he basically stayed there for a year and became their babysitter.

01:18:51.000 Is that right?

01:18:52.000 True story.

01:18:53.000 Wow.

01:18:53.000 Think some freaky stuff was going on?

01:18:55.000 I like to think so, but no.

01:18:57.000 Easy!

01:18:58.000 I don't know!

01:18:58.000 Aubrey!

01:18:59.000 Aubrey!

01:19:00.000 Google your information before you say things like that!

01:19:03.000 I don't think that's on Google, Brian!

01:19:04.000 For God's sake, man!

01:19:06.000 Magny, he keeps trying to get that back triangle, but can't get it.

01:19:11.000 Look at Means controlling that one arm.

01:19:13.000 Yep, that's a big move, but look at this.

01:19:14.000 He gives up the fucking mount.

01:19:16.000 Goes to butterfly, half guard.

01:19:19.000 Neil's trying to isolate that arm.

01:19:22.000 Ooh, get that arm.

01:19:24.000 Yeah, get that arm, but he doesn't have that arm in the right position.

01:19:27.000 If you're gonna isolate it, you gotta get that left arm across the chin.

01:19:30.000 Why isn't he going to head and arm in the first place?

01:19:33.000 It's a weird position he's holding here.

01:19:35.000 Super weird.

01:19:36.000 And why isn't homeboy getting...

01:19:37.000 Did he pass the side?

01:19:39.000 He's just tired.

01:19:39.000 He's taking a little break there.

01:19:41.000 No, he's still in his half guard.

01:19:42.000 He's just taking a little break there.

01:19:43.000 But Neil's giving him all sorts of space.

01:19:45.000 Look at all the space.

01:19:46.000 I was over at Hicks and Gracie's house once, and we watched Coliseum 2000. What is that?

01:19:52.000 It was a mixed martial arts event in Japan, back in the Dizze, when Hickson fought Funaki.

01:19:59.000 And that was, I think, Hickson's last fight.

01:20:02.000 What is he talking about?

01:20:03.000 Look at him.

01:20:03.000 I don't know, but Neil won 2-1, I think.

01:20:05.000 What were we saying, though, Joe?

01:20:06.000 But Hickson was so amazing watching fights with Hickson when he starts breaking down positions.

01:20:12.000 I can't imagine.

01:20:13.000 Really?

01:20:13.000 Yeah, he gets disgusted when he sees space.

01:20:17.000 When he sees guys with their shitty side control and shitty mounts.

01:20:24.000 And he goes, when I go to, when we start, we're in neutral position.

01:20:29.000 Well, if I go to one, we're not going back to one.

01:20:31.000 Zero.

01:20:32.000 We start at zero, I move to one, and from one, I go to two.

01:20:36.000 I'm not going back to zero.

01:20:38.000 I'm going to one, and then to two, and then checkmate.

01:20:42.000 Checkmate.

01:20:44.000 Gangster.

01:20:44.000 The way he's saying it, it's like, I believe you.

01:20:47.000 By the way, I've never seen, has he ever cracked a joke in his life?

01:20:51.000 Is he dead serious all the time?

01:20:53.000 I don't know.

01:20:53.000 I mean, I'm sure if you're around him, and you've fucking been strangled by him sufficiently, that he knows that you understand your position in the food chain.

01:21:04.000 Frank Grillo, my buddy who trained with him for a long time, was on his competition team.

01:21:07.000 Was he a Green Beret, Navy SEAL, sniper that you know, guy who served, combat athlete, riot police, former world champion.

01:21:19.000 Tell me about all your friends.

01:21:20.000 He won the world championships.

01:21:23.000 Dude, tell me about all your friends because they make you a better person.

01:21:26.000 Tell me about all your friends because they make you a better person.

01:21:31.000 You find out that Frank Gerla doesn't even exist.

01:21:32.000 He was in Captain America.

01:21:34.000 He played the villain.

01:21:34.000 Is he one of the jerky boys?

01:21:35.000 No, he was in Captain America.

01:21:37.000 He played one of the villains.

01:21:38.000 I didn't see it, but the latest Captain America.

01:21:40.000 He had a big part.

01:21:42.000 And he said that Hickson would let you put him in his purple belt.

01:21:45.000 Anybody put him in literally like a chokehold and count to ten.

01:21:48.000 He'd be like, I'm going to get out of this in ten, nine, eight.

01:21:51.000 He would tell you what he was going to do to you.

01:21:53.000 He would let black belts do that.

01:21:54.000 Yeah, he would tell you what he was going to do to you.

01:21:55.000 I'm going to put you in an armbar no matter what you do to defend.

01:21:58.000 Full back control with the hooks in, rear naked choke locked in, and he would get out.

01:22:02.000 Yep.

01:22:02.000 It's ridiculous.

01:22:04.000 Come on, Neil!

01:22:05.000 Get the win!

01:22:05.000 But it's not if you let a white belt do it to you.

01:22:08.000 Yeah.

01:22:09.000 I would let a white belt do that to me.

01:22:10.000 I agree.

01:22:11.000 Hickson hates Kale.

01:22:13.000 Yeah!

01:22:14.000 Neil Magny.

01:22:14.000 Nice.

01:22:16.000 A lot of that is that style of never committing 100% to everything.

01:22:22.000 What's his name?

01:22:22.000 Ran off, huh?

01:22:23.000 He's not happy, Brian.

01:22:25.000 He just lost a really big fight.

01:22:27.000 Big fucking event.

01:22:30.000 Where's Magni Train now?

01:22:31.000 He's at Grudge.

01:22:32.000 Still Colorado?

01:22:33.000 Oh!

01:22:34.000 He's not at Grudge.

01:22:36.000 His head coach is Leicester Bowling, and he's with Nate Mark Hart and Cody Donovan, those guys in Denver.

01:22:41.000 At Elevate?

01:22:41.000 Yes, sir.

01:22:43.000 Team Elevate.

01:22:44.000 And they train at that Muscle Farm gym.

01:22:45.000 That gym's ridiculous.

01:22:47.000 Is it?

01:22:48.000 State of the art.

01:22:49.000 It's ridiculous.

01:22:49.000 Tim Kennedy was on the podcast the other day talking mad shit about Muscle Farm products.

01:22:53.000 I've never had them.

01:22:55.000 I've never had it myself.

01:22:56.000 I just know the facility.

01:22:57.000 I love Six Star products.

01:22:58.000 I just know the Muscle Farm gym is nice.

01:23:03.000 Their products probably make you shit your pants.

01:23:05.000 I don't know.

01:23:06.000 I don't know.

01:23:08.000 Everything makes him shit his pants.

01:23:10.000 Everything makes him shit his pants.

01:23:12.000 I need high quality shit.

01:23:13.000 You might like that though.

01:23:14.000 I'm not a big fan of shit in my pants.

01:23:17.000 That depends what I'm doing.

01:23:19.000 It depends what I'm doing.

01:23:20.000 If it's Saturday night, got nothing to do, put on a good movie, shit my pants.

01:23:22.000 Hey, by the way, thanks for animating that shit story video that Joe and I did.

01:23:29.000 Who animated it?

01:23:30.000 Oh, dude, you didn't get it?

01:23:31.000 Some guy online?

01:23:32.000 Yeah, they animated it and made it really funny, too.

01:23:34.000 Dude, there's so many funny fucking people online, man.

01:23:36.000 Oh, it was so great.

01:23:36.000 Was your shit story about you running around away from the girl in the woods?

01:23:40.000 No, when we were talking about...

01:23:41.000 When I was telling you the shit story.

01:23:43.000 Oh, the one, the shit story when we were...

01:23:45.000 We shit on a stick.

01:23:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:23:47.000 Dude, your story that no one's animated, someone...

01:23:50.000 Hear my call.

01:23:51.000 The story that you told about running away from a girl, Brian was hiking with a girl and he had to shit his pants, so he made a game out of it and ran into the woods.

01:24:00.000 She's like, where are you going?

01:24:01.000 He's like, I'll be right back.

01:24:01.000 I'm trying to scare you!

01:24:02.000 He ran into the woods and he shit his pants.

01:24:05.000 I was shouting out of my asshole.

01:24:07.000 Shouting out of my asshole.

01:24:08.000 My asshole was literally, by the end of it, was like...

01:24:10.000 And she came walking.

01:24:13.000 I was like, look at the hawk!

01:24:14.000 I was trying to make faces at her.

01:24:16.000 She's like, what are you doing?

01:24:18.000 Quick, run around here!

01:24:20.000 There's a bear.

01:24:21.000 Three more times.

01:24:21.000 She finally heard it because I couldn't get around in time.

01:24:23.000 She goes, are you sick?

01:24:24.000 I go, I think so.

01:24:26.000 So she smelled it?

01:24:27.000 I had to walk her back through the minefield.

01:24:29.000 We had to turn back around.

01:24:31.000 My poor asshole.

01:24:33.000 Oh, chasing, dirty.

01:24:35.000 You know, if a girl can deal with that, if you can say, hey, listen, I don't want to lie to you, but I got fucking crazy diarrhea.

01:24:41.000 Like a first date?

01:24:42.000 Yeah, guess what?

01:24:42.000 She couldn't deal with it.

01:24:43.000 In fact, saw her a year later at Kinko's and she ran out of the fucking Kinko's.

01:24:46.000 But that's good.

01:24:47.000 That's good.

01:24:48.000 You got off light.

01:24:49.000 You're right.

01:24:50.000 What would you do?

01:24:51.000 If you were on a date with a chick and she said she has mad diarrhea, I said, look, we're human.

01:24:55.000 It's all good.

01:24:56.000 That's what I would say.

01:24:57.000 Well, yeah, so you would say I'd fuck her anyway.

01:24:59.000 Well, you'd definitely fuck her anyway.

01:25:01.000 But I probably wouldn't fuck her right then.

01:25:03.000 I'd let her wash up.

01:25:05.000 Diarrhea doesn't really get my dick hard.

01:25:07.000 But the thing is, I wouldn't judge her.

01:25:09.000 But some people would get upset at you.

01:25:11.000 And that's just a weakness thing.

01:25:13.000 They would sense weakness in you.

01:25:15.000 But they'd probably sense weakness in you because you tried to hide it.

01:25:18.000 Whereas a guy like me would say, Hey, listen, I got fucking diarrhea.

01:25:21.000 Yeah.

01:25:22.000 So you deal with this or not, it's all good.

01:25:24.000 I couldn't understand if you hate me now, but I'm gonna go shit behind this tree.

01:25:28.000 I was in an acting class and this fucking guy...

01:25:32.000 Okay, I gotta say this because this is on.

01:25:34.000 I fucking hate this Nas commercial and I'm done.

01:25:38.000 You can't keep showing this goddamn thing.

01:25:41.000 Where the guy throws all these wild kicks and the other guy comes out and punches him in the face.

01:25:45.000 And then drinks some caffeine.

01:25:47.000 Yeah, punches him in the face and then eats Crank.

01:25:49.000 Boom!

01:25:51.000 And then he's like, yeah, fucking cool, calm, and collected.

01:25:54.000 I'll just have some caffeine because I just knocked a guy out.

01:25:57.000 No nonsense.

01:25:58.000 I totally need to be stimulated because I just knocked a guy out.

01:26:02.000 Nas.

01:26:03.000 I was once on a, like, really super early in dating this girl, and I got food poisoning.

01:26:08.000 We were sleeping in the same hotel room together.

01:26:11.000 So we met in Greece, so I'd drink a bunch of ouzo and pass the fuck out.

01:26:16.000 Like, terrible food poisoning.

01:26:17.000 What's ouzo?

01:26:18.000 Uzo's a Greek liquor.

01:26:20.000 Yeah, because I thought maybe it'd help the food poisoning.

01:26:22.000 Good call.

01:26:23.000 I slept like a fucking baby.

01:26:24.000 Woke up, and I woke up, and I hear...

01:26:27.000 Oh my god.

01:26:28.000 And I was like, what?

01:26:29.000 No!

01:26:29.000 What?

01:26:29.000 I was like, oh no.

01:26:31.000 No, no, no.

01:26:31.000 You did not.

01:26:32.000 And she just jumps out of the bed.

01:26:34.000 No, you shit!

01:26:34.000 You and I shit the bed?

01:26:35.000 In a huge round circle.

01:26:37.000 You shit the bed?

01:26:39.000 God damn it!

01:26:40.000 That's a huge issue!

01:26:41.000 You have to throw away the fucking mattress!

01:26:43.000 That's not what's important.

01:26:44.000 What's important is...

01:26:45.000 What happened afterwards with the girl?

01:26:47.000 Well, it was a lot of laughter.

01:26:48.000 And any time I would try to be, like, romantic and we'd be having a wine...

01:26:52.000 She couldn't take care of it.

01:26:52.000 She'd just look at me and just crack the fuck up.

01:26:54.000 Not having it.

01:26:55.000 I'd be like, oh, because I shit myself, right?

01:26:57.000 She wouldn't have told your friend you're the shit guy.

01:26:58.000 So did you ever fuck her again after that?

01:26:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:27:00.000 We made it faster.

01:27:01.000 Look at this fucking pregame!

01:27:03.000 This girl's tits are popping out.

01:27:05.000 Easy.

01:27:05.000 And she's with a black guy that they'll never let fuck her on TV. I'm upset.

01:27:10.000 I'm upset.

01:27:11.000 Your voice gets very high when you get upset.

01:27:12.000 I get angry.

01:27:14.000 Look at that.

01:27:14.000 She's hot as fuck.

01:27:15.000 That's ridiculous.

01:27:16.000 Have you ever had a girl blow up your bathroom?

01:27:19.000 Oh yeah.

01:27:20.000 Deal breaker.

01:27:20.000 I have.

01:27:21.000 No.

01:27:22.000 Lose my number.

01:27:22.000 No.

01:27:23.000 You blow up my bathroom?

01:27:24.000 Ever.

01:27:24.000 Lose my number.

01:27:25.000 There's pheromones in there.

01:27:26.000 You and I are different.

01:27:27.000 No, I had a problem.

01:27:27.000 Fight of the night right here.

01:27:29.000 Oh yeah.

01:27:30.000 Darren Crookshank and Eric Cook are about to fight right now.

01:27:34.000 New Breed and Detroit Superstar about to throw down.

01:27:38.000 Great.

01:27:38.000 Boom!

01:27:39.000 Oh my god.

01:27:40.000 Coke, Duke Rufus, trained fighter.

01:27:43.000 And so is Crookshank, by the way.

01:27:45.000 When I was at Duke's camp, I was training at Duke's place when I was in Minneapolis, and Crookshank was there, and Coke is one of his boys.

01:27:54.000 So this is kind of interesting.

01:27:55.000 I didn't know that.

01:27:56.000 Brendan, you have a tough, this is a crazy, I gotta just say.

01:27:59.000 Please don't say something stupid.

01:27:59.000 Don't say something like, I can't believe this is your job.

01:28:02.000 You got a bottle opener?

01:28:03.000 Goddammit, scary.

01:28:04.000 Yeah, I'm nervous as shit.

01:28:05.000 When you see that little thing pop up at the bottom that says UFC 174, I go like this.

01:28:11.000 What makes you scared?

01:28:14.000 It's not that I'm scared, it's just nervous.

01:28:16.000 Oh, you see it, so you have to think about it?

01:28:18.000 Do you try to avoid thinking about fights as much as possible before you do them?

01:28:24.000 That's a good question.

01:28:26.000 By the time I get home, I'm so exhausted, I really don't think about it.

01:28:30.000 I'll wake up sometimes, I'll sleep like shit, thinking about Arlovsky, stuff like that, but...

01:28:37.000 I'm just so exhausted by the time I get home.

01:28:40.000 I would never compare myself to anything that you've done, but I did some competing when I was younger, and one of the things that I found was I won the U.S. Open when I was 19 years old, and one of the reasons I think that I won it is because I didn't think I was fighting, and it was because I had fought the week before,

01:28:56.000 and I had injured my hamstring.

01:28:59.000 Or my groin, rather.

01:29:01.000 And the tournament was the week after that, and I was like, well, I'm not going to fight.

01:29:06.000 I'm hurt.

01:29:07.000 I need to heal up.

01:29:08.000 And then I woke up the morning of the fights, and I had a bunch of donuts, which I never would normally eat.

01:29:15.000 And then I had some coffee, because I used to have a paper route.

01:29:18.000 That's how I used to make money when I was fighting.

01:29:20.000 I used to get up in the morning.

01:29:21.000 I'd get up at 5 a.m., and I would deliver papers from 5 to 7, and then I'd go back to sleep.

01:29:25.000 Wow.

01:29:26.000 And so I had these fucking Dunkin' Donuts donuts with powdered sugar and lemon filling and I had some Boston cream donuts and I was lit up with sugar and I was like, I'm fucking fighting!

01:29:42.000 So I got in my car.

01:29:44.000 I went home.

01:29:44.000 You just didn't think about it.

01:29:45.000 I packed my bag.

01:29:47.000 Not only did I not think about it, I told myself I wasn't fighting.

01:29:51.000 So for a week, I was relaxed as fuck.

01:29:54.000 And I did no training whatsoever.

01:29:56.000 I mean, I might have did some stretching.

01:29:58.000 I definitely worked out in the pool.

01:30:00.000 Because that's what I would do when I wasn't fighting if I was injured.

01:30:03.000 I tore my sartorius muscle.

01:30:06.000 Besides my ACL, it was one of the biggest injuries I ever had.

01:30:09.000 What the hell is a sartorius muscle?

01:30:11.000 It connects your hip to your quadriceps.

01:30:13.000 It's a pretty big muscle, and it was a pretty bad injury.

01:30:15.000 Sounds like a dinosaur.

01:30:16.000 It was for a few months.

01:30:17.000 I couldn't throw any kicks at all.

01:30:19.000 It was pretty bad.

01:30:21.000 Besides that, I hurt myself, so I said, you know what, let me just take some time off.

01:30:26.000 I did a little swimming and this and that.

01:30:27.000 And the day of, I decided, fuck it, I'm fighting.

01:30:30.000 But I fought so good because I had slept good.

01:30:34.000 You probably just relaxed, huh?

01:30:34.000 I slept good.

01:30:35.000 I relaxed.

01:30:36.000 The whole week, I wasn't nervous.

01:30:38.000 I had zero nerves the whole week because I was convinced that I wasn't fighting.

01:30:43.000 So it was just a sugar rush, a split decision.

01:30:46.000 You just wonder you did work.

01:30:47.000 As a Taekwondo fighter, it was one of my biggest victories, winning the U.S. Open.

01:30:52.000 It was like a big fucking...

01:30:53.000 I've also heard from some athletes, when you're a little bit injured, too, it kind of takes some of the pressure off you for your own performance.

01:30:59.000 You're like, well, I'm injured anyway.

01:31:00.000 Also, you don't over-train.

01:31:02.000 You don't over-train.

01:31:03.000 I think Bernard Hopkins, will you tell me?

01:31:05.000 Bernard Hopkins said something like, why would I train?

01:31:09.000 Most of these guys over-train.

01:31:10.000 He doesn't even train them.

01:31:11.000 Well, now as he's older, and Larry Holmes said the same thing.

01:31:14.000 He realized, why am I training an hour and a half for a 30-minute fight?

01:31:17.000 Right.

01:31:17.000 True.

01:31:18.000 And that just comes with experience.

01:31:19.000 They say that about Roger Federer.

01:31:20.000 The top tennis players do not practice more than two hours a day.

01:31:23.000 Yeah, it's tennis.

01:31:24.000 Two hours a day is a long fucking time.

01:31:27.000 It's tennis, and we're just talking about some serious shit.

01:31:29.000 Tennis is a bad motherfucking sport.

01:31:31.000 Relax.

01:31:32.000 Nobody's clanging shins off your head.

01:31:34.000 They play four or five hours, bro.

01:31:35.000 I don't give a fuck if they play for 24 hours.

01:31:37.000 Well, you need to learn tennis, or I'll serve a ball in your fucking face.

01:31:40.000 And I'm talking about fucking tennis, bro.

01:31:43.000 Oh, man.

01:31:43.000 He hit the ball for two hours.

01:31:45.000 Here's the best comparison.

01:31:46.000 If he doesn't show up, nothing happens.

01:31:48.000 Take a guy who weighs about the same that I do, and who runs an ultra-marathon.

01:31:53.000 He runs 100 miles.

01:31:54.000 Give him a month off, and I'll fucking strangle him.

01:31:58.000 He doesn't have a chance.

01:31:59.000 He has no chance.

01:32:00.000 You know why?

01:32:00.000 Because it's not a marathon.

01:32:02.000 If you lock up with me, you don't know what you're doing, I'm going to choke the shit out of you.

01:32:05.000 See, a marathon is nonsense.

01:32:07.000 You're just running.

01:32:08.000 No one's kicking you.

01:32:09.000 No one's throwing rocks at you.

01:32:10.000 But tennis is a different story.

01:32:12.000 It's nonsense!

01:32:13.000 Oh, you're out of here, Ma.

01:32:14.000 Oh, my God.

01:32:16.000 It's difficult.

01:32:16.000 The ignorance in this room, ladies and gentlemen.

01:32:18.000 Get the fuck out.

01:32:19.000 Get the fuck out.

01:32:19.000 You fucking make me get out.

01:32:21.000 I will make you get out.

01:32:22.000 You see my fucking...

01:32:24.000 Give me some volume to drown out.

01:32:25.000 You see my fucking wheel kick.

01:32:27.000 I'm going to flip out right now.

01:32:28.000 Wow.

01:32:29.000 I wish the listeners could watch me play tennis.

01:32:32.000 Whoa, he's the underdog.

01:32:34.000 Huge underdog.

01:32:35.000 Jesus.

01:32:36.000 In MMA, a plus 355 is huge.

01:32:38.000 What does that mean?

01:32:39.000 How do they come to that number?

01:32:40.000 If you put $100 on him...

01:32:42.000 Right.

01:32:43.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:32:43.000 He's basically a 3-1 underdog.

01:32:45.000 Almost 4-1.

01:32:46.000 That is fucking interesting.

01:32:48.000 That's an interesting fucking underdog there.

01:32:50.000 Who makes those odds?

01:32:52.000 What experts are doing that?

01:32:54.000 Who is doing that?

01:32:54.000 I don't know.

01:32:55.000 Someone sets an initial line and then the betting...

01:32:57.000 Whoa!

01:32:57.000 He's minus 450. That's insane.

01:32:59.000 He's a heavier favorite.

01:33:01.000 I disagree.

01:33:01.000 Look at that tattoo.

01:33:02.000 Of course he's minus 450. What is that?

01:33:04.000 It's terrifying.

01:33:04.000 I think it's a J.R. Tolkien or something.

01:33:07.000 He's probably his favorite author.

01:33:08.000 Hello!

01:33:09.000 That's my favorite referee ever.

01:33:11.000 Who's Gary Copeland?

01:33:11.000 Gary Copeland.

01:33:12.000 Gary Copeland is as wide as he is tall, and he's not very tall.

01:33:15.000 He's fantastic.

01:33:16.000 He is fantastic.

01:33:17.000 How about Chrissy?

01:33:18.000 Hi, Chrissy.

01:33:19.000 She's a good girl.

01:33:19.000 By the way, Brian, if you ever want to play tennis.

01:33:21.000 Did you say she's a good girl?

01:33:21.000 Why'd you get creepy?

01:33:22.000 Oh, but you play tennis?

01:33:23.000 Yeah, I'll fuck you up.

01:33:23.000 A gentleman in the room!

01:33:25.000 A gentleman in the room!

01:33:26.000 He'll make you quit playing tennis or table tennis.

01:33:28.000 Aubrey is an athlete.

01:33:29.000 I felt his back.

01:33:30.000 He's got a valley for a back.

01:33:31.000 I appreciate it.

01:33:32.000 Let's see.

01:33:33.000 Crookshank and...

01:33:33.000 Oh!

01:33:35.000 Crookshank tagged Coke with the right hand.

01:33:37.000 Double, Valley, Tudo shorts.

01:33:39.000 Crookshine coming off of that victory is very, very hyped.

01:33:43.000 Dude, the way he mixes things up is insane.

01:33:45.000 You just can't train for it.

01:33:46.000 The kicks, the angles, his hands are low.

01:33:50.000 Dude, he's trying to make him pay with every kick.

01:33:54.000 That's what you gotta do with a kicker, man.

01:33:55.000 If you and Coke go into bar, Brandon Shaw, who gets the girl?

01:33:58.000 Well, the Mike Rios.

01:34:00.000 Shaw does.

01:34:01.000 He's a good looking dude.

01:34:02.000 His fight versus...

01:34:03.000 He's too small.

01:34:05.000 Shaw's a giant.

01:34:06.000 His fight versus Mike Rios.

01:34:08.000 Not to mention big dude.

01:34:08.000 You gotta understand, when you see a girl like...

01:34:11.000 He's just small.

01:34:11.000 When a girl's around Shaw, you just gotta get her away.

01:34:13.000 He's on fire.

01:34:14.000 I gotta run.

01:34:16.000 It's true.

01:34:16.000 Hungry eyes.

01:34:17.000 It's fucking...

01:34:18.000 It's Ariel.

01:34:18.000 I disappear.

01:34:19.000 When I'm standing next to him, I disappear.

01:34:20.000 I look like a cup of coffee.

01:34:22.000 I could be a candle.

01:34:23.000 It doesn't matter.

01:34:24.000 I just tell girls Brian has AIDS. He might have AIDS. I look like I do when I'm next to you.

01:34:28.000 He wouldn't get tested if he did.

01:34:30.000 I'm all gaunt.

01:34:30.000 By the way.

01:34:31.000 Definitely not.

01:34:32.000 Would be the last guy on earth that gets tested.

01:34:34.000 Definitely not.

01:34:35.000 I'm like, bro, do you think you have AIDS? Nah, man, I feel fine.

01:34:37.000 Whatever else he has.

01:34:38.000 I just say he fights, I play tennis.

01:34:40.000 Whatever else he has is duking it out with the AIDS. And he's happy to just be a battleground.

01:34:44.000 Just a huge cock lock.

01:34:46.000 His body's a battleground.

01:34:47.000 Darren with a big kick to the body.

01:34:51.000 You know, it's interesting, like I said, because when I was at Rufus Sport, Crookshank was training there.

01:34:56.000 When they had the UFC in Milwaukee...

01:35:00.000 That fucking southpaw stance is always tricky, man.

01:35:02.000 Southpaws are tricky, man.

01:35:04.000 They are tricky, but they're opened up for right hands and high kicks, too.

01:35:08.000 It's tough to deal with.

01:35:10.000 They're used to it more than you are.

01:35:11.000 Correct.

01:35:12.000 Unless you train on a regular basis with a really good southpaw.

01:35:15.000 Southpaws are tough, man.

01:35:16.000 Mitri Owen was a southpaw.

01:35:18.000 It's tough to find a high-level southpaw guy.

01:35:21.000 Oh, nice little snappy catch.

01:35:23.000 Yeah, that snappy right jab is a motherfucker, man.

01:35:28.000 Straight rights are how you beat a southpaw.

01:35:30.000 But Crookshank, I was so impressed with him in that Mike Rio fight.

01:35:33.000 And I know Mike Rio is primarily a grappler.

01:35:37.000 So the difference between...

01:35:38.000 Ooh, nice inside leg kick.

01:35:40.000 I like how he set it up with the punches.

01:35:41.000 He's got...

01:35:42.000 They both got crazy explosion.

01:35:43.000 That's fast.

01:35:49.000 Because I like to compliment myself.

01:35:51.000 I keep myself going.

01:35:52.000 Because obviously I'm surrounded by enemies in this fucking area.

01:35:55.000 You're surrounded by people who do not appreciate tennis except for Aubrey.

01:35:58.000 Aubrey.

01:35:59.000 A gentleman.

01:36:00.000 Oh!

01:36:01.000 God, thank God you're here.

01:36:03.000 Thank God you're here.

01:36:05.000 Fighting a bunch of barbarians.

01:36:08.000 Oh!

01:36:08.000 Good shot.

01:36:09.000 Quick right hand by Crookshank.

01:36:11.000 Goddamn.

01:36:11.000 Tell you what, whoever made these odds, man, are way off.

01:36:14.000 Yeah.

01:36:14.000 They need to educate themselves.

01:36:15.000 I get confused sometimes at some of the odds.

01:36:18.000 I mean, Aubrey has made a killing, allegedly.

01:36:22.000 If I was a betting man.

01:36:23.000 By some of the things that I... Sometimes, you know, he'll come to fights and I'll go, whatever you do, bet the fucking house.

01:36:29.000 Oh!

01:36:30.000 High kick!

01:36:31.000 He's out!

01:36:32.000 He's out!

01:36:34.000 He's out, bro.

01:36:35.000 I don't know.

01:36:36.000 Yes, I do know.

01:36:37.000 He's just taking punishment, man.

01:36:39.000 Oh, he's hanging in there.

01:36:40.000 Gary is close to stopping this fight.

01:36:42.000 That's it!

01:36:43.000 Oh, shit!

01:36:44.000 Somebody made some money.

01:36:47.000 Detroit superstar in the house!

01:36:49.000 Huge, huge victory.

01:36:50.000 And I would have told Aubrey...

01:36:51.000 Watch this setup.

01:36:52.000 I would have told Aubrey, those odds are off.

01:36:54.000 Those odds are off.

01:36:55.000 I texted my brother right before we got in.

01:36:57.000 He said, who should I bet on?

01:36:58.000 I said, Detroit superstar.

01:37:00.000 That's a big victory.

01:37:01.000 Who the fuck made him a 3.5 to 1 underdog and a 4.5 to 1 favorite for Coke?

01:37:06.000 Some fuck who's used to doing NFL and NBA. I was like, oh yeah, I'll do UFC this weekend.

01:37:10.000 It's some guy who doesn't train.

01:37:11.000 That's all that is.

01:37:12.000 That's a guy who doesn't train.

01:37:13.000 Look at this.

01:37:13.000 Head kick.

01:37:14.000 Watch this.

01:37:15.000 Boom!

01:37:17.000 And by the way, Brian caught him with the foot.

01:37:19.000 Taekwondo's the right hand afterwards.

01:37:20.000 Damn right he did.

01:37:21.000 You and I know the difference.

01:37:23.000 You and I know the difference.

01:37:24.000 Gary stopped the fight because he got tired of being so low.

01:37:26.000 How about the elbows?

01:37:27.000 He was squatting.

01:37:27.000 He gassed out.

01:37:28.000 He was like, I gotta stop this fight.

01:37:30.000 He's like, my quads are on fire.

01:37:31.000 My quads are on fire.

01:37:33.000 I'm on fire.

01:37:34.000 That's a thick-legged man.

01:37:36.000 Yeah, I would have stopped that fight.

01:37:37.000 I gotta be honest with you.

01:37:38.000 You wouldn't have?

01:37:39.000 No.

01:37:40.000 No, it wasn't enough.

01:37:41.000 I mean, he was definitely in trouble.

01:37:43.000 But look, when Crookshank's on top of him, he's dropping these shots, and every time he's dropping these shots, he's grabbing them.

01:37:51.000 Coke is trying to get up.

01:37:53.000 I mean, he's definitely tagging them, but I don't think I would have stopped that fight because I like to see a guy survive that kind of shit and come back, and I know that sometimes when guys burn themselves out trying to finish a fight, they could gas out.

01:38:06.000 We just got ourselves a superstar.

01:38:08.000 Who here can do a backflip?

01:38:10.000 On a trampoline.

01:38:11.000 On a trampoline.

01:38:12.000 I can't even do it on a trampoline.

01:38:13.000 I can't either.

01:38:15.000 I mean, I probably could if I took the time.

01:38:17.000 You know, I did gymnastics forever because I used to hang out with GSP all the time.

01:38:22.000 He did gymnastics, so I was like, I want to be like him.

01:38:24.000 So I started doing gymnastics.

01:38:25.000 Then he went back to Montreal.

01:38:26.000 You're the worst body for gymnastics.

01:38:29.000 Not really.

01:38:29.000 I got really good.

01:38:30.000 I'm sorry.

01:38:31.000 I got really good.

01:38:32.000 He's just trying to criticize you.

01:38:34.000 Yeah, right?

01:38:34.000 He's so tall.

01:38:35.000 Shut down your control.

01:38:37.000 No, no.

01:38:37.000 It's tough.

01:38:37.000 You got the worst body for fucking...

01:38:39.000 You would get sensitive about me.

01:38:41.000 You would get sensitive about me saying you have a bad body for gymnastics, by the way.

01:38:45.000 How?

01:38:46.000 Not really.

01:38:48.000 I'm 6'5", 250. I'm not really.

01:38:50.000 Yeah, you do.

01:38:51.000 You objectively do.

01:38:53.000 I kept doing it, and then I was getting really tired from it, and it was hurting my knees.

01:38:56.000 I was like, why the fuck am I doing gymnastics right now?

01:39:00.000 Imagine if you tore your knee doing backflips and you have to fight.

01:39:03.000 And there's 10-year-olds everywhere doing way cooler shit than me.

01:39:06.000 And they weigh 13 pounds.

01:39:07.000 Yes, and I was like, you know what?

01:39:08.000 I should probably be in the gym rolling.

01:39:09.000 I'm at the fuck out of here.

01:39:10.000 I've never been back.

01:39:11.000 Good for you.

01:39:12.000 That's very smart.

01:39:13.000 No one ever won a fight by doing backflips.

01:39:16.000 No.

01:39:16.000 That's the only reason I went, so I could do a backflip.

01:39:18.000 That'd be my nickname, Brian Backflip.

01:39:20.000 This fight is a fucking interesting fight.

01:39:22.000 There's a couple interesting fights on this card.

01:39:24.000 Cormier, Dan?

01:39:25.000 Cormier and Henderson is very interesting.

01:39:28.000 But the thing about Cormier and Henderson is Henderson is off the TRT now.

01:39:33.000 TRT's been banned.

01:39:34.000 They shut that shit down.

01:39:35.000 There's a couple guys who are like, ah, shit.

01:39:38.000 Vitor.

01:39:39.000 Vitor put out a statement, I'm a beast without TRT. The Holy Spirit.

01:39:44.000 Really?

01:39:44.000 Yeah, he said the Holy Spirit.

01:39:45.000 He tweeted that out.

01:39:46.000 I'm a beast without TRT. Crucshall, ladies and gentlemen.

01:39:50.000 That's a heavy boss.

01:39:51.000 You just got a new superstar, UFC. The Detroit superstar.

01:39:55.000 That's a big victory.

01:39:56.000 That's a huge win, man.

01:39:57.000 Huge win.

01:39:57.000 Eric Koch was set to fight for the title.

01:39:59.000 Remember that?

01:40:00.000 He was supposed to fight Aldo for the title.

01:40:03.000 Damn.

01:40:03.000 That's a big...

01:40:05.000 God, I hate seeing guys lose.

01:40:08.000 Well, I do, but I like seeing guys win at the same time, and one of them has to happen for the other to happen, and I'm a big fan of Crookshank.

01:40:14.000 Me too.

01:40:16.000 I'm a really big fan.

01:40:18.000 Alright, let's calm down.

01:40:20.000 This guy takes a lot of heat.

01:40:21.000 John Anik, he takes a lot of fucking shit online.

01:40:25.000 Why?

01:40:25.000 Because he's a fucking commentator.

01:40:28.000 He takes shit.

01:40:30.000 You just do, right?

01:40:31.000 You don't.

01:40:33.000 I take plenty.

01:40:34.000 It just doesn't bother me.

01:40:36.000 Joe has, what, six Gillian followers on Twitter?

01:40:39.000 You take some hits.

01:40:40.000 You take hits.

01:40:41.000 It's just...

01:40:42.000 Oh!

01:40:42.000 Look at that beautiful head kick.

01:40:44.000 Crookshanks on him.

01:40:46.000 But see, this is my point.

01:40:48.000 And I'm not saying it was a bad stoppage.

01:40:50.000 I'm just saying if I was standing over him...

01:40:53.000 Let him fight through it.

01:40:53.000 I think I would have let him fight a little bit more because I don't think that any of these shots are putting him away.

01:40:59.000 I agree.

01:40:59.000 He's not flatlining.

01:41:01.000 I agree.

01:41:01.000 His head is off the mat and he's trying to figure out a way.

01:41:04.000 He's making the effort.

01:41:05.000 He's trying to figure out a way to get out of that scenario.

01:41:08.000 But when a guy's on top of you and a guy's blowing his wad like that, swarming, as a guy who's experienced a lot of fights, I think that you've got to let a guy try to fight out of the bottom position.

01:41:19.000 Shane Carwin Lesnar.

01:41:20.000 Yes!

01:41:23.000 Because the guy's head, he never laid back.

01:41:27.000 There's his dad.

01:41:27.000 I mean, his dad's a karate instructor.

01:41:29.000 Did he eat his kids?

01:41:32.000 Holy shit!

01:41:34.000 It might be Wheat Belly, guys.

01:41:36.000 It might be Wheat Belly.

01:41:37.000 Is that the inventor of CrossFit?

01:41:42.000 No, he ate the inventor of CrossFit.

01:41:45.000 That's insane.

01:41:46.000 Do you think that he'd pull his dad aside and go, Dad, come on, we're going to go walking today.

01:41:49.000 Walking?

01:41:50.000 Dad, how...

01:41:51.000 Ooh, earlier fight.

01:41:52.000 This must be a good fight.

01:41:53.000 Justin Salas, Neil Magny, teammate.

01:41:56.000 Versus Ben Wall.

01:41:57.000 I did not see this fight, so it must be an exciting fight.

01:42:00.000 Can I spoil it for everyone?

01:42:01.000 No, please don't.

01:42:02.000 I'm just kidding.

01:42:03.000 Don't you dare.

01:42:05.000 I was working out because I have a gym at the house, by the way, gentlemen.

01:42:09.000 He does.

01:42:10.000 You have a cage.

01:42:11.000 Yeah, I keep lions in it.

01:42:13.000 Dude.

01:42:14.000 I keep lions in it.

01:42:16.000 I like to work out while I'm watching fights.

01:42:18.000 It makes me scared.

01:42:19.000 Who is that mafia guy who would bring you down to the basement to see the lion if you wanted to fight with you?

01:42:25.000 I think it was...

01:42:26.000 Fuck, do you know?

01:42:27.000 You follow this stuff.

01:42:28.000 No.

01:42:28.000 There was a mafia guy who kept a lion downstairs.

01:42:34.000 And the informant was talking.

01:42:36.000 He goes, well, if we had a problem, we'd take him down to see the lion.

01:42:38.000 That's all.

01:42:39.000 It was all we needed for the guy to comply.

01:42:41.000 And they just had this huge male lion down there.

01:42:43.000 I would imagine that's the last way you'd want to die.

01:42:46.000 Well, the Uday and Husay, whatever, Husay, Saddam Hussein's kids used to feed people to dogs, to Rottweilers.

01:42:54.000 They would not feed the dogs for days, and then they would throw people to the dogs.

01:42:59.000 Including, like, women that they raped.

01:43:01.000 They would rape women on their wedding day, they would find them on their wedding day, steal them away from their groom, rape them, and then feed them to dogs.

01:43:08.000 Where was William Wallace when that shit was happening?

01:43:11.000 The biggest assholes on the planet.

01:43:12.000 The biggest assholes.

01:43:13.000 They were complete, total social paths.

01:43:14.000 If there's a hell, I hope they're just fucking in the hottest.

01:43:19.000 I hope they come back as snails.

01:43:21.000 For the rest of time, I hope little kids step on them.

01:43:24.000 They come back as snails.

01:43:25.000 And just keep coming back as snails getting stepped on.

01:43:27.000 Splat.

01:43:28.000 We get run over by cars, splat, and they live, but they're in agony for like 20 hours.

01:43:33.000 Just snails.

01:43:34.000 Uday and Kuse, snails.

01:43:37.000 Come back is another snail.

01:43:39.000 Crows eat them.

01:43:40.000 Snails on the salt glass.

01:43:41.000 Stomp, stomp.

01:43:43.000 Stomp.

01:43:43.000 Yeah.

01:43:44.000 Impressive beard by this man.

01:43:46.000 Only impressive because he bothered to grow it.

01:43:48.000 True.

01:43:48.000 At this point in time, I'm a little tired of those beards.

01:43:51.000 I gotta be honest with you.

01:43:52.000 You know what?

01:43:52.000 It's getting a little old, right?

01:43:54.000 Everyone's doing it.

01:43:55.000 Yeah.

01:43:56.000 Says the guy who can't grow one.

01:43:57.000 Says the guy who can't grow one.

01:43:58.000 It's a sign that you need a little bit of attention.

01:44:00.000 I can grow one.

01:44:01.000 I would agree.

01:44:02.000 I think it's a sign.

01:44:03.000 My beard.

01:44:04.000 I dyed my beard, do you know?

01:44:05.000 Look at how fucking dark it is.

01:44:06.000 If you have a big dick, you don't have a beard.

01:44:08.000 I have a rich darkness to my beard.

01:44:09.000 I do.

01:44:10.000 If you have a big dick, you don't need a big beard.

01:44:12.000 Nah, man.

01:44:12.000 But if you have a big dick and a big beard, it's like, whoa, I didn't see that coming.

01:44:16.000 True.

01:44:17.000 You look like a monster with a tail.

01:44:20.000 You have a big dick and a big beard.

01:44:22.000 You're a multifaceted motherfucker.

01:44:24.000 Do you write your own poetry, too?

01:44:27.000 What's your Twitter account like?

01:44:29.000 A lot of retweets?

01:44:30.000 If you got a huge beard, do you trim your pubic bush or do you just let it go wild?

01:44:35.000 It depends on the kind of chicks you date.

01:44:36.000 Usually if you're growing a beard like that, you kind of don't give a shit and you have that 70s bush.

01:44:40.000 I take it all down, guys, just so you know.

01:44:43.000 I got a number three razor.

01:44:44.000 I take it down.

01:44:44.000 I keep it tight.

01:44:45.000 I used to date a chick who didn't like it.

01:44:47.000 Oh!

01:44:48.000 Big left hand.

01:44:50.000 Oh, that's it.

01:44:51.000 Same guy.

01:44:51.000 Stops the fight.

01:44:52.000 That was a very good stoppage.

01:44:55.000 Oh boy.

01:44:55.000 Easy don't.

01:44:56.000 He was thinking about flipping, but he's like, I think my legs are cast.

01:44:59.000 Is that the Eiffel Tower on his back turned upside down?

01:45:01.000 No, no.

01:45:01.000 I think it's a caduceus.

01:45:02.000 It's a what?

01:45:04.000 Caduceus.

01:45:05.000 It's originally the DNA helix from Sumer.

01:45:09.000 Really?

01:45:10.000 What is it?

01:45:11.000 It's just a shitty tattoo, I think it is.

01:45:14.000 I don't know.

01:45:15.000 What is it?

01:45:15.000 What is it on his back?

01:45:17.000 I don't know.

01:45:17.000 Come on.

01:45:18.000 Luke Cadillo in this corner, former 155. Hey, guys, during the break, just so you know, if you like comedy, I'll be the Edmonton comic strip.

01:45:25.000 Are you going back there again?

01:45:27.000 Were you just there a week ago?

01:45:28.000 No, no, no.

01:45:28.000 I was there.

01:45:29.000 Straight left.

01:45:29.000 Boom.

01:45:30.000 Straight left, yeah.

01:45:31.000 When are you going there?

01:45:31.000 I'll be there this Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

01:45:34.000 How long ago were you just there?

01:45:35.000 You were there recently.

01:45:37.000 No, I haven't been there for over a year.

01:45:39.000 Oh, okay.

01:45:40.000 I'm confused.

01:45:40.000 I can't wait for Vancouver.

01:45:42.000 Oh, we're going to have a good time.

01:45:43.000 Oh, dude, I'm psyched!

01:45:44.000 We're going to Vancouver on June 13th, and we're in Lloyd Minster on June 12th.

01:45:49.000 UFC 174. Yes, and Callum will be there.

01:45:52.000 I can't wait.

01:45:54.000 I will also be there.

01:45:55.000 I'm excited.

01:45:55.000 I'm shooting my one-hour special soon.

01:45:58.000 I'm shooting my special in Colorado.

01:46:01.000 Confirmed.

01:46:01.000 You know what I love about Joe Rogan?

01:46:03.000 August 22nd and 23rd at the Comedy Works in Denver.

01:46:05.000 Here's what I love about Joe Rogan.

01:46:07.000 Joe Rogan would probably open for me for my one hour special.

01:46:11.000 Ask me.

01:46:12.000 Let me know.

01:46:12.000 I'll do it.

01:46:12.000 Alright.

01:46:13.000 I'm done.

01:46:13.000 I'd be happy to.

01:46:14.000 I'd love you.

01:46:15.000 I'd be happy to introduce you.

01:46:16.000 I want you to do that.

01:46:17.000 Let me know.

01:46:18.000 If I get the week off, I'm fucking there.

01:46:20.000 You know me, brother.

01:46:21.000 My favorite thing is listening to you laugh in the audience while I'm doing my stand-up.

01:46:26.000 When we worked together in D.C. at the Improv.

01:46:29.000 Oh, the greatest.

01:46:30.000 I could hear you cackling the whole...

01:46:32.000 That's like when your friend is...

01:46:34.000 You end up just doing stand-up for your friend.

01:46:36.000 I think that's Artemis Prime or whatever the fuck it is.

01:46:40.000 He's got a bandana.

01:46:42.000 What are those things called?

01:46:44.000 Transformers.

01:46:44.000 I think he's got a Transformer on his back.

01:46:46.000 You know Marky Marks in the new Transformer movie?

01:46:48.000 Yeah, I can't wait.

01:46:49.000 Who told him to be in that movie?

01:46:51.000 Who told him to be in that movie?

01:46:52.000 It's like someone offering you John Olive Inamo.

01:46:56.000 I need a manager.

01:47:01.000 Oh, shit.

01:47:03.000 You want to be in the Transformer movie?

01:47:04.000 Unless you want to fuck Megan Fox, I would say no.

01:47:07.000 You want to be in a trailer right next to her?

01:47:09.000 No, our trailers butted up next to each other.

01:47:11.000 Her door can't open unless mine is open.

01:47:15.000 Take the hinges off mine.

01:47:17.000 Fuse our doors together.

01:47:19.000 I want to know if she's showering.

01:47:21.000 Do you need a towel?

01:47:22.000 Do you need a massage?

01:47:23.000 Do you need a towel?

01:47:24.000 She's not even in those movies, right?

01:47:26.000 No, right?

01:47:27.000 Yeah.

01:47:28.000 She had a problem with the director.

01:47:29.000 You know what she is in, though?

01:47:30.000 The new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movie.

01:47:32.000 Yeah, it was actually...

01:47:33.000 Hey, that's exactly what I want.

01:47:34.000 As a kid, I loved Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

01:47:36.000 Let's make them realistic.

01:47:37.000 Said no one.

01:47:38.000 Wait a minute.

01:47:38.000 Was she in that movie?

01:47:39.000 No, fuck.

01:47:40.000 Was she in that movie?

01:47:41.000 Is that the same guy who directed it that has a problem with the gay guys?

01:47:45.000 No, it's not.

01:47:46.000 That's the other guy.

01:47:47.000 Michael Bay did Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

01:47:49.000 The Bryan Singer is the one who's having a problem with gay guys coming out and saying that he fucked them.

01:47:52.000 I got a message for all you little twinks that fucked Bryan Singer and now you're running your yap.

01:47:58.000 Listen, you knew the fucking deal.

01:48:00.000 When you get into a pool and there's 500 other twinks in there and you're all on ecstasy, shut the fuck up!

01:48:06.000 Exactly.

01:48:07.000 Okay?

01:48:07.000 The guy hooked you up.

01:48:09.000 Yeah!

01:48:09.000 He brought you to the party.

01:48:11.000 He didn't have to bring you to the party.

01:48:12.000 He's a straight guy who fucked you.

01:48:13.000 Take it easy.

01:48:14.000 There's not a shortage of...

01:48:15.000 He's not a straight guy.

01:48:16.000 Oh, sorry.

01:48:16.000 He's gay.

01:48:17.000 There's not a shortage of twinks, okay?

01:48:21.000 Settle the fuck down.

01:48:23.000 Twink is a great...

01:48:24.000 Yeah, you're not allowed to use it anymore.

01:48:25.000 Would I be a twink in that game?

01:48:26.000 Well, I'm too old.

01:48:27.000 No, you're definitely not a twink.

01:48:28.000 What's a twink?

01:48:29.000 Your guy buys twinks.

01:48:31.000 I had a long discussion.

01:48:32.000 You might be...

01:48:33.000 There's like different words.

01:48:34.000 You know there's like a bear, but there's like otters, and there's a whole...

01:48:37.000 Otters?

01:48:37.000 There's like a whole forest.

01:48:39.000 All I know is bear.

01:48:39.000 There's a whole forest of animals.

01:48:40.000 What am I? Why do all I know is bear?

01:48:42.000 Because you are a bear, bro, but you're not hairy.

01:48:44.000 No, I'm not hairy enough.

01:48:45.000 A twinker's like a little...

01:48:48.000 A pink, like a soft, smooth, like a...

01:48:51.000 Like a young boy.

01:48:52.000 You might actually be an otter.

01:48:56.000 An otter likes bears though, I think.

01:48:59.000 Have you seen what I'm working with under the shirt at all?

01:49:03.000 Take your shirt off.

01:49:04.000 You might be a muscle otter then.

01:49:06.000 An otter.

01:49:07.000 A muscle otter.

01:49:08.000 What's the definition of an otter?

01:49:10.000 Look at that, muscle otter.

01:49:12.000 No, Brian's a chicken head in the gay community.

01:49:14.000 Are you kidding me?

01:49:14.000 Look at the fucking...

01:49:15.000 What is it?

01:49:15.000 Is that a four-pack?

01:49:16.000 I almost can see your abs.

01:49:18.000 Hey, bro, that's a fucking...

01:49:19.000 The light was right, you were oiled up.

01:49:22.000 Dude, I'm not mad at it.

01:49:23.000 You can't be mad at that.

01:49:24.000 No, for being 54, you look good.

01:49:25.000 Hey, bro!

01:49:26.000 What the fuck?

01:49:28.000 Easy with the numbers, man!

01:49:30.000 You and Donald Sterling just doing the damn thing.

01:49:35.000 I'll tell you, there's a lot of people that saw Donald Sterling with that chick, and they ignored the racism and went, there's hope.

01:49:43.000 There's hope.

01:49:43.000 If that 81-year-old guy can fuck that 20-something-year-old chick, there's hope.

01:49:48.000 There's hope.

01:49:48.000 If I get $20 billion in owning the Clippers, there's hope.

01:49:52.000 He's got a body on him.

01:49:53.000 He played pro football.

01:49:53.000 Forget about all that.

01:49:54.000 Look at Adam Sandler doing another movie with Drew Barrymore and expecting someone to watch that.

01:49:59.000 You know what?

01:50:00.000 You know who watches them?

01:50:01.000 Who's involved in funding?

01:50:02.000 You know who watches those bullshit movies?

01:50:04.000 Who?

01:50:04.000 This guy!

01:50:05.000 Do you love those movies?

01:50:06.000 Brendan Schaub loves them.

01:50:07.000 I love Happy Madison.

01:50:08.000 I don't like intense stuff, yeah, so I watch that bullshit.

01:50:11.000 You don't like intense stuff when you're preparing for a fight?

01:50:13.000 In general, because my job's so intense, I watch bullshit.

01:50:16.000 Oh, I see.

01:50:17.000 Like, last night I went and saw that movie Neighbors.

01:50:20.000 Oh, I would see that movie, too.

01:50:21.000 It was good.

01:50:21.000 I love Seth Rogen.

01:50:23.000 I love all of his movies.

01:50:23.000 So funny, man.

01:50:24.000 Did you see This is the End?

01:50:25.000 Oh, yeah.

01:50:26.000 Funny, right?

01:50:27.000 Funny fucking movie, man.

01:50:28.000 It was.

01:50:28.000 It was a good movie.

01:50:29.000 How about Craig Anthony?

01:50:30.000 Funny fucking movie, man.

01:50:31.000 So funny.

01:50:33.000 So Neighbors was good.

01:50:34.000 How many stars?

01:50:35.000 Craig Robinson was great in that fucking movie.

01:50:37.000 Yeah, he was.

01:50:38.000 He's funny as shit.

01:50:39.000 With his towel.

01:50:39.000 He has a towel at every scene.

01:50:41.000 He's sweating.

01:50:42.000 Sweating.

01:50:43.000 Which is, you know, true.

01:50:45.000 Oh my God.

01:50:45.000 He's great.

01:50:46.000 Seth Rogen and Franco.

01:50:47.000 Seth Rogen, Neighbors.

01:50:48.000 I give that movie an entertainment...

01:50:51.000 A four out of five.

01:50:52.000 You know what?

01:50:52.000 It's not going to win any awards.

01:50:53.000 You don't go there to learn something.

01:50:54.000 You just go to be entertained.

01:50:55.000 I love how James Franco dodged that 18-year-old bullet.

01:50:59.000 I love the way you say Franco and not Franco.

01:51:02.000 I say Franco because that's what he said.

01:51:03.000 I like how James Franco...

01:51:04.000 He was trying to bang some 17-year-old.

01:51:07.000 Yeah.

01:51:07.000 Was he?

01:51:08.000 Yeah.

01:51:08.000 It was great.

01:51:09.000 But he didn't bang her, so it was pretty like...

01:51:12.000 Do you know the whole story?

01:51:13.000 Wait, I don't know.

01:51:13.000 She blew the spot on him, right?

01:51:15.000 Ah, the fucking cunt!

01:51:16.000 She should be boycotted for life, by the way.

01:51:19.000 But him, what he did was pretty creepy.

01:51:22.000 No doubt.

01:51:23.000 What happened?

01:51:23.000 He was on Instagram with some chick.

01:51:26.000 She was 17. He was like, when do you turn 18?

01:51:28.000 I'm like, come meet me.

01:51:30.000 You know, and she like printed all, took all the tweets that he sent her or whatever it was.

01:51:36.000 Snapchats.

01:51:37.000 Yeah.

01:51:37.000 There's something creepy about that, man.

01:51:39.000 We know it's 617 and you're fucking James Franco.

01:51:43.000 The deal is you're supposed to back off and go, okay.

01:51:46.000 Please stop saying Franco.

01:51:47.000 You're supposed to say, okay, it's not like I'm in the desert and I have to fuck my kids and eat my neighbors.

01:51:54.000 Don't you have a Rolodex of 50...

01:51:56.000 Hot bitches who are over 18. You gotta try something different.

01:51:59.000 The problem is there's some dudes that are attracted to innocent.

01:52:03.000 They have a real thing with teenage angst.

01:52:06.000 There has to be a better way to go than Instagram.

01:52:07.000 I like a woman in her 30s who's been through two divorces with a sex swing.

01:52:10.000 Really?

01:52:10.000 Scotch on her breath.

01:52:11.000 Yeah, I like an older one.

01:52:12.000 You like a chick with cigarettes in her purse.

01:52:14.000 Yeah, it's disappointment.

01:52:16.000 Like a chick who gets a text from a guy and goes...

01:52:19.000 Fuck you!

01:52:19.000 And then throws the phone in the toilet.

01:52:21.000 And has weather originals in her bag.

01:52:23.000 And kind of bad skin.

01:52:24.000 I don't like all that beautiful skin.

01:52:26.000 Well, you like a girl who is in love with you.

01:52:29.000 Whatever, Joe.

01:52:30.000 I don't want to talk to you.

01:52:32.000 You don't like a girl who sees Brendan Schaub and is like, I can get that guy.

01:52:36.000 You like a girl who knows she can't get Brendan Schaub because Brendan Schaub is out busy with something superior.

01:52:43.000 I like a little broken wing.

01:52:46.000 I like a broken wing.

01:52:47.000 Always have.

01:52:47.000 And you used to always be like, why are you with that?

01:52:49.000 I was like, I like it.

01:52:50.000 Shut up.

01:52:50.000 A little broken.

01:52:51.000 I'd be like, come on, whatever.

01:52:52.000 I like her.

01:52:52.000 It's like, what are you doing?

01:52:53.000 I don't know.

01:52:54.000 I'm drawn to it, man.

01:52:55.000 Yeah.

01:52:56.000 I like a little roughness.

01:52:57.000 You used to want them to fall in love with you, too, which is always odd to me.

01:53:00.000 Well, I don't know about that.

01:53:00.000 I just like making a connection, man.

01:53:02.000 Yeah, but you weren't a guy who was really honest about what was going on.

01:53:06.000 I looked off.

01:53:06.000 He was like, hey, we both know what's happening here, right?

01:53:09.000 Right?

01:53:09.000 And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:53:11.000 No, you weren't that guy.

01:53:12.000 You were the guy that was like, I just...

01:53:14.000 We have a connection.

01:53:16.000 I fall in love in the moment.

01:53:19.000 There's no question.

01:53:20.000 I'm the same way as Callan.

01:53:21.000 I don't know if you fall in love.

01:53:23.000 I don't know if you fall in love.

01:53:24.000 I think you want them to fall in love so that you can feel good about it.

01:53:28.000 Your wife, when you asked her, you knew she was the one when you met her?

01:53:33.000 Did she get pregnant?

01:53:35.000 Listen, here's the reality.

01:53:37.000 There is no perfect person.

01:53:40.000 Not me, not you, not anyone.

01:53:43.000 When you enter into a relationship, it's really all a matter of Where are you in your life?

01:53:50.000 What are you deciding?

01:53:52.000 What decisions do you make as far as how you proceed?

01:53:56.000 And I've had friends that are like, hey man, I'm thinking about getting married.

01:54:00.000 I'm like, stop.

01:54:01.000 Stop what you're doing right now and understand what you're doing.

01:54:04.000 Because a marriage, all it is, is a legal contract with the state.

01:54:08.000 If you're going to have kids and you want to have kids, marriage is all good.

01:54:12.000 But I didn't get married until I had kids.

01:54:14.000 And on this move, I'm going to have a pickle break right now.

01:54:16.000 I need some pickles.

01:54:17.000 There you go.

01:54:18.000 I want too much wine.

01:54:19.000 I want a pickle.

01:54:20.000 Grab me a pickle.

01:54:21.000 Like a legit pickle?

01:54:22.000 Yes!

01:54:23.000 Pickles, man.

01:54:24.000 And just so anybody understands, there's nothing wrong with getting married.

01:54:26.000 There's nothing wrong with having kids.

01:54:27.000 There's nothing wrong with all those things.

01:54:28.000 It just has to be the right time.

01:54:29.000 You've got to know the right person, too.

01:54:31.000 It's got to be the right fucking...

01:54:33.000 It's got to be the right scenario.

01:54:35.000 Yes.

01:54:36.000 Pickles.

01:54:37.000 Pickles up!

01:54:39.000 So when are we playing tennis, Brian?

01:54:41.000 I'd love to.

01:54:42.000 Do that for real.

01:54:44.000 Are you around tomorrow?

01:54:45.000 We can do it tomorrow.

01:54:46.000 Yeah, I think we're doing a podcast here tomorrow.

01:54:48.000 How about Monday?

01:54:49.000 Yeah, possibly.

01:54:50.000 Do you play a lot?

01:54:51.000 A bit.

01:54:52.000 I love it.

01:54:52.000 Yeah, I'm obsessed with tennis.

01:54:54.000 Right on.

01:54:55.000 Boxing and tennis now.

01:54:58.000 I mean, pretty different.

01:55:00.000 Hey, bro.

01:55:01.000 Could you please get tougher?

01:55:03.000 Could you do something?

01:55:06.000 Could you eat beef jerky or something?

01:55:08.000 Listen, I am tough.

01:55:10.000 I mean, not really.

01:55:12.000 You're one of the toughest comedians.

01:55:14.000 Yeah, not bad.

01:55:16.000 He's definitely in the top thousand.

01:55:19.000 I'm not tough, but if my friend's in a fight, I'm not going to stand around.

01:55:23.000 I'm going to help you out.

01:55:24.000 These are mustard pickles.

01:55:26.000 I've never had these.

01:55:28.000 Strange mustard pickles?

01:55:28.000 This Grillo's Pickles Company sends me these pickles.

01:55:30.000 They're fresh pickles from Boston.

01:55:32.000 And they're fucking amazing.

01:55:34.000 I'm pretty excited about a pickle.

01:55:36.000 I haven't had a pickle in a grip.

01:55:37.000 Yeah, I wouldn't mind getting down on that.

01:55:38.000 You can get in on that.

01:55:39.000 Everybody can get in on that.

01:55:41.000 I got enough pickles for everybody.

01:55:43.000 Mm-hmm.

01:55:46.000 It's going to sound like a pickle commercial here.

01:55:48.000 Will Sasso, my buddy, is fucking good, man.

01:55:51.000 Hold on.

01:55:54.000 I brought some Sam Adams up in there.

01:55:59.000 I'll tell you what, everybody.

01:56:01.000 The perfect storm to shit your pants again.

01:56:03.000 Mustard pickles and about a gallon of bulletproof coffee I've had.

01:56:09.000 This is good.

01:56:10.000 I've never had this before.

01:56:12.000 Yeah, that is good.

01:56:13.000 It's unusual.

01:56:15.000 By the way, people are complaining on Twitter because I'm eating into a microphone.

01:56:20.000 Go fuck your mother.

01:56:23.000 Okay?

01:56:24.000 That's what I have to say to you.

01:56:25.000 Go fuck your mother.

01:56:30.000 If you're listening to this, and you're like, your fucking podcast sucked because I heard you chewing.

01:56:35.000 Fuck you.

01:56:40.000 All kinds of people just went out to go get pickles, right?

01:56:42.000 Everyone is hearing the crunch.

01:56:45.000 Grillo'spickles.com.

01:56:46.000 And a lot of you are like, what's so good about pickles?

01:56:50.000 Most pickles.

01:56:51.000 Ooh, there's the James Franco thing, huh?

01:56:53.000 Let me see.

01:56:53.000 Do they have a picture of this girl?

01:56:54.000 It's a hoax?

01:56:55.000 He's got a movie coming out.

01:56:57.000 The trailer came out the same day that story broke.

01:56:59.000 That's not a hoax.

01:57:00.000 Hoax that I'm trolling for teenage girls?

01:57:03.000 His movie is he plays a coach that gets involved with one of his players who's a 17-year-old girl.

01:57:07.000 It's the worst PR move ever.

01:57:09.000 Because guess what?

01:57:10.000 None of us knew that.

01:57:11.000 Now we think he's just a psycho.

01:57:12.000 Yeah.

01:57:13.000 I don't know about that, but I'm looking at this Godzilla commercial.

01:57:16.000 My dick's heart is a rock.

01:57:18.000 Really?

01:57:19.000 Very excited about this Godzilla commercial.

01:57:20.000 You think it'll be a good movie?

01:57:21.000 You know what?

01:57:21.000 Not excited about it, man.

01:57:23.000 That's because you're not into intense shit.

01:57:25.000 See, me?

01:57:26.000 I'm not worried about fighting Andrzej Orlovski because I don't have to.

01:57:31.000 So I'm watching Godzilla and I'm getting fucking pumped.

01:57:35.000 The other Godzilla was some bullshit with Matthew Broderick.

01:57:39.000 What's there, Godzilla commercial or Ronda Rousey right after it?

01:57:44.000 For me, I'd say Godzilla.

01:57:45.000 I'd say Ronda.

01:57:47.000 Because Godzilla's definitely going to kick your ass.

01:57:49.000 You know it going in, so fuck it.

01:57:50.000 Oh well.

01:57:51.000 Try again on the next incarnation.

01:57:53.000 Ronda, you feel like you might have a chance.

01:57:55.000 That's what fucks you up.

01:57:56.000 I don't think I have a chance.

01:57:58.000 I'm under no illusion she choked me out on Instagram.

01:58:01.000 Guys, follow me on Instagram.

01:58:04.000 The funny thing that you did on Instagram, you do have a really interesting thing that you're doing where you do the angel and the devil.

01:58:10.000 That's fucking hilarious.

01:58:11.000 That's really funny, man.

01:58:13.000 It's really original, too, man.

01:58:14.000 Good.

01:58:15.000 I got more to come.

01:58:17.000 Well, I fucking hope so.

01:58:20.000 Brian's doing this thing where he has a cell phone on one side and an iPad on the other, so he has two things talking to him at the same time.

01:58:27.000 That is me.

01:58:28.000 Are you doing that when you're on the road, you're bored?

01:58:31.000 And isn't one like, hey, fuck guys.

01:58:33.000 You're like, wait, what?

01:58:34.000 Yeah, the guy's like, fuck.

01:58:36.000 You have to watch it.

01:58:39.000 This is a broad who was in the same broad.

01:58:41.000 This is the girl who's in love with Wayne Newton.

01:58:44.000 Here it comes.

01:58:46.000 Who's scary?

01:58:47.000 Wayne Newton's excited.

01:58:49.000 Look at that.

01:58:50.000 Wayne Newton's way scarier.

01:58:51.000 Wolf.

01:58:52.000 How does he not know?

01:58:53.000 Buzz's girlfriend.

01:58:54.000 Wolf.

01:58:54.000 He doesn't know for the same reason why bodybuilders don't know they look ridiculous or anorexics don't know they look ridiculous.

01:59:00.000 Lack of self-awareness.

01:59:01.000 Oh, the Nas guy gets a fucking...

01:59:02.000 Did they run out of people to sponsor the UFC? Do they not have a guy in the office that does quality control?

01:59:09.000 It goes, enough with the fucking spinning Nas guy.

01:59:11.000 Bro, real quick, let's talk about bodybuilding.

01:59:13.000 Could there be a gayer sport?

01:59:16.000 It's guys getting big for guys.

01:59:19.000 I actually had a friend who was competing in this girl, competing in one of those.

01:59:22.000 I went to the first time ever.

01:59:23.000 Guys on guys, right?

01:59:25.000 It was the craziest, scariest thing I've ever seen in my life.

01:59:28.000 Wait a minute.

01:59:29.000 Rats on racks on racks.

01:59:30.000 Guys, guys, guys.

01:59:31.000 Look at Philippou's muscularity.

01:59:34.000 He's ridiculous.

01:59:35.000 You know, it's interesting.

01:59:36.000 Costa Philippou left Ray Longo's camp, you know, because he's 185 pounds most likely.

01:59:42.000 Weidman's 185. They might have to fight.

01:59:44.000 I don't know what all the drama was.

01:59:45.000 Do you?

01:59:45.000 Do you know anything?

01:59:47.000 Carry on.

01:59:48.000 But since then, he's not looked as good.

01:59:51.000 He's lost his last two against Luke Rockhold and Francis Carmo.

01:59:55.000 On my last fight with Mitch Rohn, UFC 165, me and him shared a locker room.

02:00:00.000 I'm not making this up.

02:00:01.000 This guy did maybe half a jumping jack and went out and fought.

02:00:07.000 No warm up.

02:00:08.000 Zero.

02:00:08.000 Look at him.

02:00:09.000 Not a sweat.

02:00:10.000 He does not warm up.

02:00:11.000 He didn't hit mitts.

02:00:12.000 He didn't do anything.

02:00:13.000 He did kind of this half-ass jumping jack.

02:00:15.000 He goes, let's roll.

02:00:16.000 And here I am, sweating my ass off in the back.

02:00:20.000 Getting ready.

02:00:21.000 All right.

02:00:22.000 Look at this fight, because he's fighting Lorenz Larkin.

02:00:24.000 And my take on this is that Larkin is like a really multifaceted striker.

02:00:29.000 Throws a lot of kicks, knees, elbows.

02:00:30.000 Very tricky.

02:00:31.000 I've trained with him.

02:00:31.000 Very tricky.

02:00:32.000 But Philippou is almost exclusively a boxer.

02:00:35.000 He's like a sprawl boxer type character.

02:00:38.000 And he's been getting taken down a lot lately.

02:00:40.000 That's why he's been losing his fights.

02:00:41.000 Well, Carmon really kind of tricked him.

02:00:43.000 I don't think he ever saw that coming.

02:00:44.000 He should have, though.

02:00:46.000 Because Carmon, he's a running double.

02:00:50.000 The difference is, Philippou has crazy knockout power.

02:00:53.000 Larkin's really not known for his knockout power.

02:00:55.000 Does he though?

02:00:55.000 Does Philippou have crazy knockout power?

02:00:57.000 He does, man.

02:00:57.000 He does.

02:00:58.000 Who is he knocked out?

02:00:58.000 Who's the last guy he knocked out though?

02:01:00.000 It's been a while.

02:01:01.000 Did you see this fight with Jared Hammond?

02:01:03.000 Uh-uh.

02:01:03.000 Oh man, talk about brain damage.

02:01:05.000 Really?

02:01:05.000 Not fun to watch.

02:01:06.000 Ugh.

02:01:08.000 These are my new favorite pickles.

02:01:09.000 I can't get enough of these pickles.

02:01:11.000 I don't feel good.

02:01:12.000 I'm a little light-headed, but I'm eating the shit out of these pickles.

02:01:14.000 It might be the Bulletproof Coffee.

02:01:17.000 It's not.

02:01:17.000 She's pickles with the fucking muscle.

02:01:19.000 It's the perfect storm to shit your pants.

02:01:21.000 30 seconds, people.

02:01:23.000 I blocked five guys who complained about me chewing pickles.

02:01:26.000 By the way, are we allowed to ask?

02:01:28.000 I know you guys don't make predictions, but if you had to put your money on the Silva-Brown fight, can I get a call?

02:01:36.000 Which fight?

02:01:37.000 On the Silva Brown fight.

02:01:37.000 On the main event?

02:01:38.000 You want to wait for the main event?

02:01:39.000 Yeah, no.

02:01:41.000 I like Matt Brown.

02:01:42.000 I don't like the fact that Eric Silva's a big, he's two to one.

02:01:46.000 Who makes these odds?

02:01:47.000 Crazy odds.

02:01:48.000 What the fuck are we doing?

02:01:48.000 Matt Brown's a savage.

02:01:50.000 Matt Brown's won four fights in a row, all knockouts.

02:01:52.000 Eric Silva's, he wins one, loses one.

02:01:54.000 I think he's won seven.

02:01:54.000 I think he's won seven fights in a row.

02:01:55.000 He has it.

02:01:56.000 Has it?

02:01:57.000 No, it's four.

02:01:57.000 Four?

02:01:58.000 Whatever it is, I'm always impressed with him.

02:02:02.000 You might be right on seven.

02:02:04.000 Maybe it's four knockouts in a row.

02:02:05.000 I'm not unimpressed with Eric Silva.

02:02:08.000 I think Eric Silva's a fucking beast.

02:02:09.000 I think Matt Brown's fought tougher guys.

02:02:11.000 But Dong Young Kim knocked him out.

02:02:13.000 And that makes me...

02:02:14.000 Not that Dong Young Kim's not an animal.

02:02:16.000 He is.

02:02:17.000 Here, one, two, three, four...

02:02:20.000 Five, six.

02:02:21.000 Seven?

02:02:22.000 Six in a row.

02:02:23.000 Four knockouts in a row, right?

02:02:25.000 Yeah, his last loss was since he caught him in a guillotine.

02:02:28.000 By the way.

02:02:29.000 Oh!

02:02:31.000 Uh-oh.

02:02:31.000 You just got tagged.

02:02:33.000 Philippou's tired of losing, man.

02:02:34.000 He was ranked, what, 6 at one point?

02:02:36.000 He was up there, man.

02:02:37.000 He's a beast.

02:02:38.000 He's so strong.

02:02:40.000 His legs...

02:02:40.000 I would imagine he is strong.

02:02:42.000 His legs are insane.

02:02:43.000 Look at his calves.

02:02:44.000 They ain't giving those muscles away in a Cracker Jacket box.

02:02:46.000 You know what I'm saying, folks?

02:02:47.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:02:48.000 That'd be me as a...

02:02:50.000 The kid's Greek!

02:02:52.000 He's got a goatee!

02:02:53.000 He's bald!

02:02:54.000 Good leg kick by Larkin there.

02:02:56.000 And Larkin used to fight 205, right?

02:02:57.000 Yeah.

02:02:58.000 You know, Larkin has a win over Robbie Lawler.

02:03:00.000 Did you know that?

02:03:01.000 And he looked good in that fight.

02:03:03.000 He looked good in that Robbie Lawler fight.

02:03:04.000 He did, man.

02:03:05.000 He's really clean as far as his technique.

02:03:06.000 You know what?

02:03:07.000 In Strikeforce, he was a killer.

02:03:09.000 I think the UFC was a...

02:03:11.000 I don't want to say a big jump, but it's different.

02:03:13.000 Strikeforce and UFC are different.

02:03:15.000 He's stumbled a little bit in the UFC so far.

02:03:18.000 Larkin seems very composed.

02:03:19.000 He just hasn't gotten comfortable, I'd say.

02:03:23.000 That haircut's freaking me out.

02:03:25.000 I don't get it.

02:03:26.000 Kid in play kind of thing going on?

02:03:28.000 I don't know.

02:03:28.000 Bringing the 80s back?

02:03:31.000 What about Vitor's haircut?

02:03:33.000 I'm a fan.

02:03:34.000 I am too.

02:03:35.000 I like him in cornrows and I like him in...

02:03:37.000 You ever seen Vitor's wife?

02:03:40.000 He can flex his face and make it stand on him.

02:03:42.000 What?

02:03:43.000 She's a beautiful woman.

02:03:44.000 Yeah!

02:03:46.000 He brought me and Nate Markart to train with him.

02:03:48.000 His wife came in.

02:03:49.000 I was like, huh?

02:03:50.000 I'll eat a spinning back kick to the face.

02:03:51.000 He's a fucking Brazilian hero.

02:03:52.000 If I can stare at her, I will eat a spinning back kick to the face.

02:03:56.000 And, uh...

02:03:57.000 Ooh!

02:03:57.000 She's a classic Brazilian hot chick.

02:03:59.000 Dude.

02:04:00.000 Oh, Larkin and his fucking...

02:04:00.000 And their kids?

02:04:01.000 Casa Filibu are thrown down.

02:04:03.000 He's got beautiful kids, right?

02:04:04.000 They look like X-Men, all of them.

02:04:06.000 Yep.

02:04:07.000 Beautiful children.

02:04:08.000 Both of these guys have their back up against the wall.

02:04:10.000 Oh!

02:04:10.000 Big kick by Larkin.

02:04:12.000 See, that's the difference between Larkin is the kicking technique.

02:04:14.000 I mean, Philippou threw a kick but missed.

02:04:16.000 But Larkin is real clean.

02:04:18.000 Philippou's going to counter one of these kicks with a big right hand.

02:04:20.000 Ooh.

02:04:20.000 Maybe.

02:04:25.000 It's funny how these...

02:04:26.000 Arkins is a little more active than this.

02:04:28.000 These kicks start changing what becomes a trend.

02:04:33.000 Now everybody's throwing those oblique kicks to the thighs.

02:04:35.000 It's a copycat league.

02:04:36.000 I'm telling you, man.

02:04:37.000 That front kick Anderson does, now everyone does it.

02:04:40.000 Everyone does it.

02:04:41.000 Wheel kicks, everyone does it.

02:04:42.000 Wheel kicks, that's the cool thing.

02:04:43.000 Superman punch was the thing like a denim jacket about two months ago.

02:04:48.000 I'm waiting for body shots with body punches to be like...

02:04:52.000 You know you're fighting a high-level striker if he's going to the body.

02:04:56.000 If he's comfortable going to the body...

02:04:58.000 Oh!

02:04:59.000 Big right hand by Phillip Booth.

02:05:00.000 Oh!

02:05:00.000 Marken's coming back.

02:05:01.000 You're right.

02:05:01.000 He countered one of those kicks.

02:05:03.000 Hey, who am I? We got ourselves a fight here.

02:05:07.000 I wanted to say that.

02:05:08.000 You took it out of our own.

02:05:09.000 Oh, we tagged him.

02:05:10.000 Taking the wind out of my sails, ladies and gentlemen.

02:05:12.000 These guys are sweating.

02:05:14.000 Where is Costa Phillip's training now?

02:05:15.000 These guys are strong.

02:05:16.000 Is he still training on Long Island?

02:05:18.000 Yeah, he's still on the East Coast, I know that.

02:05:20.000 And his manager is Lex McMahon, one of the best in the business.

02:05:23.000 Does Phillip look at calf implants?

02:05:27.000 Is there anybody that would ever fight with an implant?

02:05:30.000 Can you imagine?

02:05:32.000 There's girls that fight with breast implants.

02:05:35.000 That's the number one implant for guys is calves.

02:05:38.000 Weird.

02:05:39.000 You think they'd have a dick implant by now?

02:05:41.000 They do.

02:05:42.000 How do you know?

02:05:43.000 I don't want to talk about it.

02:05:44.000 In Africa, they sow rocks in there sometimes.

02:05:47.000 Say what?

02:05:49.000 In the entire continent?

02:05:51.000 Oh!

02:05:52.000 Oh!

02:05:53.000 Larkin went down!

02:05:53.000 Philippou!

02:05:54.000 Holy shit!

02:05:55.000 Huge win for Philippou.

02:05:56.000 Yeah, buddy.

02:05:56.000 Holy shit.

02:05:58.000 Yeah, sometimes.

02:05:59.000 I don't know why.

02:06:00.000 I might have another pickle on that.

02:06:02.000 Dude, Philippou, he is jacked.

02:06:05.000 He is sweating, Brian.

02:06:06.000 He's jacked.

02:06:09.000 Wow.

02:06:09.000 That was a big win.

02:06:10.000 Huge win.

02:06:11.000 Phillip has got some muscle, huh guys?

02:06:13.000 He lost his last two, man.

02:06:14.000 He needed that one.

02:06:14.000 Yeah, do or die in that one.

02:06:15.000 And not only that, I think he might have been the first guy to ever stop Lorenz Larkin in Strikeforce or the UFC. Look at him.

02:06:21.000 He's fucking wobbled, man.

02:06:23.000 A lot of power.

02:06:23.000 Ryan, remember when I said a lot of power when you're talking shit?

02:06:26.000 Boom!

02:06:27.000 Look at this.

02:06:28.000 Boom!

02:06:29.000 Boom!

02:06:30.000 Oh, clean right hand.

02:06:31.000 Look how short that right hand is.

02:06:33.000 Folks at home, when you watch how short he threw that punch.

02:06:37.000 That's called power.

02:06:38.000 That's called power.

02:06:39.000 It's not just power, it's technique because he didn't wind up and pull it way back before he launched it.

02:06:43.000 And that's why it landed in the first place.

02:06:46.000 That's what people gotta understand.

02:06:48.000 Donk!

02:06:49.000 Oh, beautiful.

02:06:50.000 It's high level boxing.

02:06:51.000 That was a beautiful right hand.

02:06:54.000 There's your knockdown.

02:06:55.000 Bam!

02:06:56.000 Hard left hook.

02:06:58.000 And here's a right hand.

02:07:01.000 Cod...

02:07:01.000 Donk!

02:07:02.000 Oh, look at that lump that occurred underneath his ear.

02:07:07.000 What is that?

02:07:08.000 That's not even a bone.

02:07:09.000 So you know how Joe Silva, you'll see him in the ring when he congratulates guys?

02:07:13.000 What does he say to you?

02:07:14.000 Well, if he's unhappy with your fight, he doesn't come in the ring, even if you win.

02:07:17.000 If he's happy, he comes in and says, like, great job.

02:07:20.000 Does he ever say anything weird to you?

02:07:21.000 No.

02:07:22.000 Something like, you're my idol.

02:07:23.000 I was like, come on, that's too much.

02:07:24.000 No, really?

02:07:24.000 Never.

02:07:25.000 Come on, hell yeah.

02:07:26.000 You're doing a Brian Callen.

02:07:28.000 Just a liar.

02:07:30.000 Is your cock as big as I hope?

02:07:31.000 My LeVar Johnson fight, when I just kept taking him down, people were booing me, I was like, oh, where's Joe?

02:07:36.000 I won my fight.

02:07:38.000 Where is it, big buddy?

02:07:39.000 Went in the back, he just walked right past him.

02:07:41.000 I was like...

02:07:42.000 Yeah, but that's what you gotta do when you're fighting LeVar Johnson.

02:07:45.000 That guy's ridiculous.

02:07:46.000 What?

02:07:47.000 I went on the scale and I turned to my coach and I was like, I think he's on steroids.

02:07:50.000 And we're like, nah, you're the same size.

02:07:52.000 I was like, I look like him?

02:07:54.000 They're like, yeah.

02:07:54.000 I'm like, oh, fuck yeah, alright.

02:07:57.000 I was in the hotel taking selfies.

02:08:04.000 Blasting the chicks.

02:08:05.000 And then after the fight, my coach was like, good lord, that guy was way bigger and way better than him.

02:08:11.000 He's like, we just wanted to say that so you weren't so scared.

02:08:15.000 And he tested positive for steroids.

02:08:17.000 Steroids!

02:08:18.000 That is fucking hilarious.

02:08:19.000 We're apparently behind live tea by 15 seconds.

02:08:23.000 We're behind live TV. I got in a clinch with him.

02:08:25.000 Fast forward.

02:08:26.000 I got in a clinch with him.

02:08:27.000 I was like, this is not Snowflake.

02:08:28.000 This is not Snowflake.

02:08:29.000 Oh, the internet is behind by 15 seconds?

02:08:32.000 It's just ridiculously strong.

02:08:34.000 So folks, if you're watching this and you're like, you're behind, it's because of the internet.

02:08:39.000 So back your fucking TiVo up by 15 seconds.

02:08:42.000 And by the way, if you don't have TiVo, go fuck your mother, alright?

02:08:45.000 Go fuck your mother.

02:08:47.000 Fucking people who have to watch.

02:08:49.000 I was at a friend's house, they don't even have a DVR. I'm like, why not use candles?

02:08:54.000 To light your house.

02:08:55.000 Why not live in the goddamn stoning?

02:08:58.000 How about you send me a message by a pigeon?

02:09:01.000 Write something down and send it over.

02:09:02.000 Staying with a good friend and their family, my family, friends, and I saw that they had the channel where Glory was on.

02:09:11.000 They had Spike.

02:09:11.000 I was like, oh, perfect.

02:09:12.000 I'll just watch it on the DVR. I'm like, what is this?

02:09:15.000 Where's your fucking DVR? I tried to pause their TV. I can't pause their TV. What the fuck is happening?

02:09:23.000 What am I, living in a different time?

02:09:26.000 Do you guys have steam-powered machines?

02:09:29.000 Look, Phillip was interviewing himself.

02:09:32.000 That's not true.

02:09:33.000 They look a lot alike.

02:09:34.000 They don't look anything alike.

02:09:36.000 For the joke, they do.

02:09:40.000 They do.

02:09:41.000 What is the shirt they're wearing?

02:09:42.000 T with a backwards R. It's a torte.

02:09:45.000 It's a torte shirt.

02:09:46.000 Don't do it.

02:09:46.000 Whoever made that shirt, stop.

02:09:48.000 Yeah, I was going to say, it doesn't really...

02:09:49.000 Stop.

02:09:49.000 Kind of confusing.

02:09:51.000 If you want to get your name out there, don't spell it like that.

02:09:54.000 That's not the way.

02:09:55.000 Well, that's going to confuse the fuck out of people.

02:09:57.000 I'm confused right now.

02:09:59.000 Costa Phillip is a good guy, man.

02:10:00.000 I'm happy for him.

02:10:01.000 Me too.

02:10:02.000 Listen, I've lost two in a row.

02:10:04.000 That third fight is so stressful, it's not even funny.

02:10:08.000 Because guess what?

02:10:09.000 You lose, you're going back to freaking dancing, shaking your ass for guys.

02:10:14.000 Wait, what?

02:10:16.000 There goes my boner again.

02:10:18.000 You're back at Starbucks.

02:10:21.000 Why are my balls so sweaty?

02:10:24.000 If you're at a high level and you lose two in a row and you're getting paid decent, that third one you better win otherwise you're getting your pink slip.

02:10:31.000 He was under a lot of pressure.

02:10:33.000 Is that like a hard rule or is that just kind of informal?

02:10:38.000 Depends on the guy.

02:10:39.000 Depends why you're getting paid.

02:10:41.000 Yeah, that's a weird thing.

02:10:42.000 If you have a good contract, there's certain guys that come in and they're highly touted and they lose a couple of fights in a row.

02:10:48.000 You're making 400 Gs and you lose two in a row, UFC's like, huh?

02:10:51.000 What are we doing?

02:10:52.000 But if they're fun fights, if it's an exciting fight and you're fighting top-level guys, oh, look at that fucking right hand.

02:10:59.000 Jesus, that's beautiful.

02:11:00.000 Tell you what, losing two fights, that third fight, most stressful fight of my career.

02:11:03.000 How long has Phillip been in the UFC? A long time.

02:11:05.000 Quite a while.

02:11:06.000 That's a beautiful combination.

02:11:08.000 That left hook right hand.

02:11:10.000 That short right hand.

02:11:10.000 That's why I told you he's a fucking knocker artist, bro.

02:11:13.000 That right hand.

02:11:13.000 Get out of here.

02:11:14.000 What did I say?

02:11:15.000 What happened?

02:11:15.000 The Fighter and the Kid podcast.

02:11:17.000 Available censored on Fox.

02:11:19.000 Not anymore.

02:11:19.000 No, they're not censors anymore.

02:11:20.000 They're not censoring anymore.

02:11:21.000 Oh, they must have listened to me.

02:11:23.000 There it is.

02:11:24.000 That's right.

02:11:24.000 Telling them you're going to leave.

02:11:27.000 Allowing, fucking offering you guys to come over to higherprimate.com for free.

02:11:32.000 We got Travis Barker, right?

02:11:33.000 Travis Barker on Wednesday.

02:11:35.000 Oh, that's cool.

02:11:36.000 Yeah.

02:11:37.000 He's a big fight fan, huh?

02:11:38.000 Yeah, he is.

02:11:39.000 He knows a lot about fighting, yeah.

02:11:40.000 Seems like a good dude, too.

02:11:42.000 You know what, man?

02:11:42.000 He's one of the nicest people I've ever met.

02:11:45.000 He's so nice.

02:11:45.000 You know when you meet someone that's so nice, you think they want something from you?

02:11:48.000 Like, what do you want?

02:11:48.000 See my dick or something?

02:11:49.000 What are we doing?

02:11:50.000 Like, what do you want to ride in my car?

02:11:52.000 I like how that's your first option.

02:11:54.000 You must want to see my dick.

02:11:56.000 Why is he so friendly?

02:11:58.000 I know what you mean.

02:11:58.000 When they're so nice, I'm like, yeah, cool, man.

02:12:00.000 Just start taking my clothes off.

02:12:01.000 I don't know what's going on, bro.

02:12:03.000 It's like they want something.

02:12:05.000 I guess this is what you want.

02:12:07.000 I'm not used to it.

02:12:08.000 He's genuinely nice.

02:12:09.000 When he was on Punk'd, too.

02:12:10.000 He was on Punk'd with Ahmed Ahmed.

02:12:13.000 Ahmed Ahmed was talking crazy shit to him in a restaurant.

02:12:16.000 And he was like, come on, motherfucker.

02:12:17.000 Let's go outside.

02:12:18.000 He's a rock star.

02:12:20.000 He's ready to drag someone outside and fight with him.

02:12:22.000 Bro, that dude's cardio is insane.

02:12:25.000 Really?

02:12:25.000 In the gym, he does like 12 rounds in a row.

02:12:28.000 Really?

02:12:28.000 Just mitts, moving.

02:12:29.000 Insane.

02:12:29.000 Well, you think about what it takes to do drums.

02:12:33.000 That's all he does.

02:12:34.000 Talking about the best drummer in the world.

02:12:36.000 Drums are a lot of cardio, man.

02:12:38.000 Hey, hey, hey.

02:12:39.000 Hey, bro.

02:12:39.000 Calm down about the best drummer in the world, but I understand.

02:12:42.000 Who's the best drummer?

02:12:43.000 For sure, Parker.

02:12:44.000 For sure.

02:12:44.000 Sure, calm down with that comment.

02:12:46.000 Who's the best?

02:12:47.000 Don't know because I'm not a drummer expert, but I'd imagine fucking Neil Pertz got something to say.

02:12:52.000 Who's Neil Pertz?

02:12:53.000 Neil Pertz, the drummer for Rush?

02:12:56.000 Holy shit.

02:12:57.000 I believe this fucking podcast.

02:13:00.000 He's 85 and has a gray bush and his nuts hang down on the drums.

02:13:03.000 We're talking about current guys.

02:13:06.000 Neil Pertz is probably the best.

02:13:07.000 I'll tell you what.

02:13:09.000 Google best drummers.

02:13:11.000 I just did.

02:13:12.000 Best drummer in the world.

02:13:13.000 Thank you.

02:13:14.000 Okay.

02:13:15.000 Neil Peart?

02:13:16.000 Yeah.

02:13:16.000 According to you, fuck you, James.

02:13:18.000 Hey, hey, bro.

02:13:19.000 Watch the F word on this podcast.

02:13:21.000 You don't get to say.

02:13:25.000 There's a lot of people that believe in different things.

02:13:29.000 Josh Barker is definitely one of the best of all time.

02:13:32.000 You're out of your fucking mind.

02:13:34.000 Brian, watch your P's and Q's.

02:13:35.000 You need to understand that you're out of your mind, and I've had about enough.

02:13:37.000 It's hard to take you serious.

02:13:39.000 And the fact that you don't give tennis, it's true.

02:13:40.000 Neil Peart from Rush is on this, what I just looked up.

02:13:43.000 John Bonham from Led Zeppelin is number two.

02:13:46.000 Damn right he is.

02:13:46.000 Chad Smith from Red Hot Chili Peppers is number three.

02:13:51.000 You know, when they say still alive, it's like, is Ali the greatest boxer still alive?

02:13:55.000 Because I'm pretty sure that...

02:13:57.000 Vladimir Klitschko would fuck him up right now.

02:14:00.000 I'm pretty sure Brian would fuck him up right now.

02:14:04.000 I'm talking about current drummers.

02:14:07.000 Travis Brown still looks pretty good.

02:14:09.000 Look at Pert's fucking drum set.

02:14:12.000 Look at that.

02:14:12.000 Yeah, he doesn't fuck around.

02:14:13.000 Any more questions, Brendan Schaub, who doesn't know anything about drumming?

02:14:16.000 I take drum lessons.

02:14:17.000 I know Travis Barker's the best.

02:14:19.000 I take drum lessons.

02:14:20.000 Brian, you're 57. You don't know who 182 is.

02:14:23.000 You have no idea.

02:14:23.000 I've never heard of that band.

02:14:25.000 Travis Barker can drum upside down, I'm pretty sure.

02:14:27.000 Yes.

02:14:28.000 Travis Barker's a bad motherfucker.

02:14:30.000 I will slap you right now.

02:14:31.000 Phil Collins is in here.

02:14:34.000 Joey Jordan, a lot of people think.

02:14:36.000 Who is he from?

02:14:37.000 What's he from?

02:14:38.000 Do we have any younger ones?

02:14:40.000 Slipknot, Korn, and Rob Zombie.

02:14:43.000 He's another one that folks consider to be number one.

02:14:48.000 Whatever.

02:14:48.000 I believe the guy from the Allman Brothers, Greg Allman, who is it who played the drums?

02:14:52.000 He doesn't play the drums.

02:14:53.000 I believe Hall and Oates might be the best.

02:14:56.000 Hall and Oates.

02:14:58.000 There's only two of them.

02:14:59.000 I believe Hall and Oates.

02:15:01.000 By the way, I'll tell you who's a better looking guy than Big Brown, Brennan Schaub, and that would be Mr. Silva.

02:15:07.000 Eric Silva?

02:15:08.000 Oh yeah.

02:15:08.000 Good looking dude.

02:15:09.000 He's got a crow wing.

02:15:10.000 He's got a crow wing.

02:15:11.000 Fucking crow wing.

02:15:12.000 Crow wing for a hair.

02:15:14.000 I am looking forward to this fight.

02:15:15.000 The only thing that I can hope is that this fight goes five fucking rounds.

02:15:18.000 He's got beautiful hair.

02:15:19.000 Really?

02:15:20.000 I don't want it to be a quick one.

02:15:23.000 One, because I can't get enough pickles.

02:15:25.000 I feel sick.

02:15:25.000 If I was a betting man, I would have bet over on this fight.

02:15:28.000 I'm just saying.

02:15:28.000 I just can't believe Eric Silva.

02:15:30.000 Over one and a half.

02:15:31.000 I can't believe Eric Silva is the fucking...

02:15:33.000 Over one and a half minus 150. People, if you're out there and you can make a bet, it's going to go past one and a half.

02:15:39.000 It's minus 150 to go over one and a half.

02:15:40.000 That's how much you get for that?

02:15:42.000 It's minus 150, so you have to give away a little bit, but still, I think there's a pretty good chance it's going over one and a half.

02:15:47.000 That's a great bet.

02:15:47.000 I would tell you to bet the fucking farm on that.

02:15:49.000 Man!

02:15:50.000 Brendan, did you train with Michael Bisbing?

02:15:52.000 Yes, I did.

02:15:53.000 On Tuesday.

02:15:55.000 How's his eye?

02:15:57.000 Good.

02:15:57.000 Okay.

02:15:58.000 Your voice was two octaves too high.

02:16:01.000 Folks at home are not going to get to...

02:16:03.000 That was a weird pause because he went, good, good.

02:16:08.000 Yeah, it seemed good.

02:16:10.000 We were sparring.

02:16:11.000 He was going hard with a heavyweight.

02:16:13.000 I'll tell you what, it was our warm-up round.

02:16:14.000 He came at me like a banshee.

02:16:17.000 Are we showing video here, Jamie?

02:16:19.000 By the way, here's a trivia question.

02:16:21.000 What is a banshee?

02:16:22.000 Don't look it up yet.

02:16:23.000 What's a banshee?

02:16:24.000 Ah!

02:16:25.000 A banshee.

02:16:27.000 What's a banshee?

02:16:29.000 It's an avenging spirit.

02:16:31.000 Not bad.

02:16:31.000 What's a banshee?

02:16:32.000 It's a very upset spirit.

02:16:35.000 Fucking liar.

02:16:36.000 Some shit that screams.

02:16:37.000 It doesn't exist.

02:16:38.000 Yeah, it's a banshee.

02:16:38.000 Hey, bro.

02:16:39.000 What do I give a fuck?

02:16:40.000 There's a definition for what a banshee is.

02:16:41.000 What's a unicorn?

02:16:42.000 It's some shit that little kids believe is real.

02:16:44.000 A banshee, I believe, and I think is an Irish fairy.

02:16:48.000 Susie and the banshee.

02:16:49.000 An Irish fairy of mischief.

02:16:51.000 Please look it up.

02:16:52.000 Why?

02:16:52.000 Are you trying to, like, gain brownie points from the oxalic acid debacle of an hour ago?

02:16:57.000 Sorry I read.

02:16:58.000 Sorry you know the stupidest facts of all time.

02:17:01.000 Oxalic acid.

02:17:02.000 Why don't you go make me some fucking juice?

02:17:03.000 Hey, bro.

02:17:05.000 Yeah, Brian, that's the toxins.

02:17:06.000 I had no comeback.

02:17:07.000 I went, hey, bro, and I had no comeback.

02:17:08.000 What about the toxins?

02:17:09.000 The other toxins that you were going to lift?

02:17:10.000 The toxins in fucking leafy greens will kill you.

02:17:13.000 What are those?

02:17:14.000 I feel great.

02:17:15.000 I feel great.

02:17:16.000 You want to know them?

02:17:16.000 I'll tell you what they are.

02:17:17.000 They're oxy...

02:17:19.000 Fucking chlorine.

02:17:23.000 Arsenic.

02:17:24.000 Oxycodone.

02:17:25.000 Cut farts.

02:17:28.000 What's wrong with you, really?

02:17:30.000 What is wrong with you?

02:17:31.000 I'm a liar!

02:17:33.000 I say things for attention.

02:17:35.000 I don't like looking things up because it's a bore.

02:17:37.000 Who are you?

02:17:38.000 I just work on instinct, you fuck.

02:17:40.000 It's hard to believe.

02:17:42.000 When did Brian just drop all this stuff?

02:17:43.000 You stop doing combat sports.

02:17:46.000 You stop juicing.

02:17:47.000 You play tennis.

02:17:48.000 I never juiced in my life, but I will.

02:17:50.000 I'll start.

02:17:50.000 You play tennis.

02:17:51.000 You don't drink juice?

02:17:52.000 Oh, juicing.

02:17:53.000 I thought you meant juicing.

02:17:53.000 Press juice.

02:17:54.000 I drink, I have pressed juices delivered to my house every day.

02:17:58.000 That's gangster.

02:17:58.000 God, it's so good.

02:18:00.000 Wait, you were right.

02:18:01.000 A fairy, a banshee's a fairy woman who begins to wail if someone is about to die.

02:18:05.000 Don't fuck with my boy Aubrey.

02:18:06.000 Just don't fuck with my boy Aubrey.

02:18:07.000 Aubrey's no joke, huh?

02:18:08.000 He doesn't say shit unless he knows what he's talking about.

02:18:10.000 He's very different from you in that respect.

02:18:13.000 No wonder.

02:18:13.000 If Aubrey doesn't know he's got this crazy thing he does, he goes, I don't know.

02:18:17.000 We should try it.

02:18:19.000 I don't know.

02:18:22.000 That's a bore.

02:18:23.000 Just try it every now and then.

02:18:24.000 Ask me any question.

02:18:25.000 I'll give you an answer.

02:18:25.000 Don't be scared.

02:18:26.000 Try it every now and again.

02:18:28.000 If somebody has their hood open in their car, I'll come over and give an opinion.

02:18:33.000 I know nothing about car.

02:18:35.000 I literally will come over and go, find a wrench on the side of the road and pick it up and see if it fits.

02:18:39.000 You check the fucking carburetor?

02:18:41.000 Do you have distributor caps?

02:18:44.000 Distributor caps?

02:18:46.000 How's the AVAC valve on that?

02:18:48.000 This is a big fucking fight for Matt Brown and for Eric Silva.

02:18:52.000 Look at this.

02:18:52.000 Here's the rankings.

02:18:54.000 See, okay.

02:18:55.000 Matt Brown, rank number seven.

02:18:57.000 Eric Silva, not even on the fucking top ten.

02:19:00.000 And yet, they have him.

02:19:02.000 As a two-to-one favorite.

02:19:04.000 That's crazy.

02:19:04.000 By the way, what a fuck.

02:19:05.000 That's how you know it's a newer sport.

02:19:06.000 Look at that field.

02:19:07.000 Look at how tough.

02:19:08.000 Look at that shit.

02:19:09.000 It's a crazy field.

02:19:09.000 Holy shit.

02:19:10.000 But that's also why, allegedly, Aubrey has made a shit-fucked ton of money.

02:19:14.000 Yes, there you go.

02:19:15.000 On my advice.

02:19:17.000 Allegedly.

02:19:17.000 What is the percentage, allegedly?

02:19:19.000 Like 80%?

02:19:22.000 There's that one fight where allegedly we won 10 out of 11 on that card.

02:19:27.000 So you allegedly talked to Joe Rogan before you put money allegedly on fights and you're 10 for 11?

02:19:32.000 There's certain ones I go, bet the fucking farm on Tyron Woodley allegedly.

02:19:39.000 Allegedly, can you give me some of those tips?

02:19:41.000 Yeah, I will, but you won't bet.

02:19:42.000 You'll go, I talked to a buddy who used to be a Navy SEAL. He gave me contrary advice.

02:19:48.000 I wanted to make him happy, so I showed him my slips.

02:19:53.000 I showed him my slips.

02:19:54.000 I have a friend.

02:19:55.000 Hey, let's hear this breakdown.

02:19:59.000 Oh, it's me.

02:20:00.000 How convenient.

02:20:04.000 This is a fucking great fight, man.

02:20:07.000 Really good fight.

02:20:08.000 Well, I love just...

02:20:09.000 Matt Brown...

02:20:10.000 Matt's been out for a little bit and hurt his back.

02:20:12.000 Yeah, that's what's...

02:20:13.000 I'm interested in this.

02:20:14.000 He not just hurt his back.

02:20:16.000 He fucking herniated discs where he had to pull out of a big fight.

02:20:20.000 He was supposed to fight Condit.

02:20:21.000 Huge fight for him.

02:20:23.000 And herniated discs are not something that heals up real quick, man.

02:20:27.000 You know, I know.

02:20:28.000 I had them.

02:20:30.000 It took me a long fucking time of a lot of different types of therapies to deal with my bulging disc that I had.

02:20:41.000 You know what's weird is Matt Brown...

02:20:44.000 He came to Denver to train with us one time, and I was like, oh, this pace is going to be insane, watching him spar with Neil Magny.

02:20:50.000 Nope.

02:20:51.000 Nope.

02:20:52.000 It's a different, like, his octagon pace and his sparring pace is completely different.

02:20:58.000 Well, he probably was just putting in work.

02:20:59.000 You know, he's probably smart about that in that sense.

02:21:02.000 Was he with Beecher?

02:21:05.000 Yes.

02:21:06.000 Mark Beecher?

02:21:06.000 Yeah.

02:21:07.000 Beecher's a good dude, man.

02:21:08.000 Yeah, a really good dude.

02:21:09.000 Beecher's the guy who turned me on into my tattoo artist.

02:21:11.000 Oh, really?

02:21:11.000 Who's your tattoo artist?

02:21:12.000 Aaron Della Vadova from Guru Tattoo in San Diego.

02:21:15.000 Great fucking guy.

02:21:17.000 Do you have to go down to San Diego?

02:21:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:21:19.000 I go down to San Diego.

02:21:20.000 I talked to Beecher.

02:21:23.000 I was like, who did your fucking sleeve?

02:21:25.000 He's like, Aaron Della Vadova.

02:21:26.000 The guy's fucking awesome.

02:21:27.000 He gave me his number.

02:21:28.000 I called the guy.

02:21:29.000 The guy's cool as shit.

02:21:30.000 I saw his stuff online.

02:21:31.000 It was worth it for me to drive down.

02:21:33.000 Do you have both just your arms?

02:21:34.000 Both guys are Aaron Della Vadova.

02:21:36.000 And is your back and chest done too?

02:21:38.000 No, nothing's done.

02:21:39.000 Just arms?

02:21:40.000 Yeah, both sleeves.

02:21:41.000 Both done by the same guy.

02:21:42.000 He's awesome.

02:21:43.000 I want to get just one sleeve.

02:21:45.000 I don't know.

02:21:46.000 Yeah?

02:21:46.000 Yeah.

02:21:47.000 Yeah, I did too, but I had this idea to do this Miyamoto Musashi sleeve.

02:21:51.000 It was kind of important to me, so I said, fuck it.

02:21:54.000 Is that from...

02:21:54.000 Book of Five Rings?

02:21:56.000 I love that book.

02:21:56.000 Yeah.

02:21:57.000 Oh, look at Eric Silva slapping himself before Matt Brown does.

02:22:03.000 Their press poster for this fight was pretty fucking epic.

02:22:05.000 Pretty intense.

02:22:06.000 Both of them just roaring.

02:22:07.000 Yeah.

02:22:07.000 They're pretty intense dudes, man.

02:22:09.000 Fuck yeah, man.

02:22:11.000 It's like the young lion versus the established lion.

02:22:14.000 It's pretty fucking cool.

02:22:15.000 How old is this kid?

02:22:17.000 He's a killer.

02:22:19.000 He's young.

02:22:19.000 I mean, I don't think he's older than 25. I think he is.

02:22:23.000 Is he older?

02:22:24.000 I want to say he's like 27 or 28. Okay, let's pull it up.

02:22:27.000 Eric Silva...

02:22:32.000 I feel like Kim and Bieber were separated at birth.

02:22:35.000 One went to Brazil and became a fighter.

02:22:36.000 Yeah, you're right.

02:22:36.000 He's actually 29. 29, yeah.

02:22:38.000 Wow!

02:22:39.000 I guess I'm probably basing it on how old he was when he first started in the UFC. He looks 21. He looks 21. Yeah, I kind of forget the guy's age.

02:22:48.000 They enter the UFC. There's Valigi.

02:22:51.000 Look at him.

02:22:51.000 Scream!

02:22:52.000 Oh, look at him!

02:22:53.000 I scream for you, my friend!

02:22:56.000 Ishmael?

02:22:56.000 His last name is Ishmael.

02:22:57.000 Yeah.

02:22:58.000 Ishmael.

02:22:58.000 Valigi.

02:23:00.000 That guy, he rides one of those little crotch rockets and he takes himself.

02:23:03.000 Does he?

02:23:04.000 Oh yeah.

02:23:04.000 He does?

02:23:05.000 He's a serious dude.

02:23:06.000 Some in golds.

02:23:07.000 Out here?

02:23:08.000 Yep.

02:23:08.000 Yeah, he used to work out and goes all the time.

02:23:10.000 No, he's still there.

02:23:10.000 He's a great guy.

02:23:11.000 I saw him the other day.

02:23:12.000 Great guy.

02:23:12.000 Original Carlson Gracie black belt.

02:23:14.000 Yes, he is.

02:23:15.000 Choked Hoist Gracie unconscious in Rio on the beach.

02:23:19.000 Yep.

02:23:20.000 That was a great fucking match.

02:23:21.000 I think he beat Hensou, didn't he?

02:23:22.000 Didn't he beat Hensou as well?

02:23:23.000 In a jiu-jitsu match?

02:23:24.000 You might be right.

02:23:25.000 Yep.

02:23:26.000 You might be right.

02:23:26.000 I believe he did.

02:23:28.000 He's a serious...

02:23:29.000 Yeah, he's a tank.

02:23:30.000 That was back when there was the rivalry.

02:23:33.000 The Carlson Gracie rivalry with Elio's kids.

02:23:37.000 The Elio side.

02:23:39.000 There's all these rivalries.

02:23:41.000 It's crazy.

02:23:42.000 It's crazy.

02:23:43.000 Within a family.

02:23:44.000 Even in the family.

02:23:44.000 Hoist criticizes Henner and Heron for doing the Gracie University.

02:23:50.000 I don't get that criticism, man.

02:23:52.000 I really don't.

02:23:53.000 A lot of guys think that you can't have jiu-jitsu instructions online.

02:23:57.000 Of course you can.

02:23:58.000 Is it as good as being there in person?

02:24:00.000 No, it's not.

02:24:01.000 Is it still good?

02:24:02.000 Yes, it is.

02:24:03.000 Still makes jiu-jitsu available to a lot of people who can't get to the gym.

02:24:06.000 I have a buddy who lives in Kentucky, man.

02:24:08.000 He lives in the middle of fucking nowhere.

02:24:10.000 And him and his buddies, they watch videos and they practice together.

02:24:13.000 And that's all he has.

02:24:15.000 He's like two hours away from anything.

02:24:16.000 You can get better that way.

02:24:17.000 You can simply get better that way.

02:24:19.000 But that's how Rich Franklin learned.

02:24:20.000 There you go.

02:24:21.000 A lot of guys learned like that, man.

02:24:22.000 So did Boss Ritten, man.

02:24:24.000 Boss Ritten said he, in the beginning, was kind of self-taught.

02:24:26.000 Well, he definitely learned a lot of grappling that way.

02:24:29.000 Yeah.

02:24:30.000 Not striking.

02:24:30.000 He's also just a gorilla.

02:24:32.000 He is.

02:24:33.000 Boss.

02:24:33.000 How about when he was doing, like, just demonstrating shit for us?

02:24:36.000 Like, I was just like...

02:24:37.000 He's getting Regenikine done at the same place where I get mine done.

02:24:40.000 On his arm?

02:24:41.000 On his neck.

02:24:42.000 Oh.

02:24:42.000 He's got a real problem, though.

02:24:44.000 For folks at home, man, here's the thing that my doctor told me.

02:24:47.000 Once you start getting numbness and then you start getting atrophy, if you don't catch that shit quick, you have a small window where your nerves have the possibility...

02:24:57.000 Did he just stumble there and slip?

02:24:59.000 Yeah, he did.

02:24:59.000 It scares me.

02:25:00.000 Imagine if he ripped his fucking knee right there.

02:25:02.000 Fuck.

02:25:02.000 And then played it off.

02:25:04.000 You have a small window when you lose muscle and size.

02:25:10.000 When you start atrophying, it's only a couple of months, he said.

02:25:12.000 And in those couple of months, if you don't get surgery or you don't get something that reduces the pressure on the nerves, those nerves can die off.

02:25:19.000 And then you never get them back.

02:25:21.000 Jeez.

02:25:21.000 And there's nothing he can do?

02:25:22.000 He said it never comes back 100%.

02:25:23.000 Never.

02:25:24.000 Because Bas Rudin was telling me, you know, he was trying all these different things to get his nerves back, but it's a long fucking time.

02:25:30.000 It's been years.

02:25:31.000 He's got this massive atrophy on his right arm.

02:25:34.000 Like, Bas had neck problems all the way back to the Teyoshi Kosaka fight when he won the UFC heavyweight title.

02:25:40.000 Couldn't wrestle training for that fight.

02:25:43.000 Same shit as Karwin.

02:25:44.000 Had, like, serious neck injuries.

02:25:46.000 And couldn't fucking wrestle.

02:25:48.000 And so then, I think he was Sons of Anarchy he was doing stunts for, and he fell on his head, and spiked on his neck, serious fucking pain, herniated disc in the neck, atrophy of the nerves, like the whole deal.

02:26:04.000 But Boss is just such an animal.

02:26:06.000 He's like one of those guys that if he gets injured, he just sucks it up and keeps working out.

02:26:11.000 He's one of the original fighters who was a freak athlete, I feel like.

02:26:15.000 Just picked up things so fast.

02:26:16.000 He was one of the best strikers in the early days of MMA. Nasty striker.

02:26:19.000 One of the best strikers.

02:26:20.000 How would Boss do now?

02:26:21.000 Who are the old guys?

02:26:23.000 Stupid to ask.

02:26:23.000 Yeah, you can't ask like that because it's so evolved.

02:26:26.000 It's evolved completely different.

02:26:28.000 Yeah, it's evolved.

02:26:29.000 I try to do the boss route and jumping double kick on the trampoline all the time.

02:26:33.000 It's totally useless.

02:26:35.000 Unless you're in a movie.

02:26:36.000 Well, hence the trampoline.

02:26:38.000 And two dummies are running at you.

02:26:41.000 I would imagine Matt Brown sets a super high pace.

02:26:44.000 Being in his hometown, he's come out.

02:26:46.000 Pretty amped up.

02:26:47.000 Well, it's also a big question.

02:26:48.000 How much time has he had to fix that back?

02:26:52.000 You've got to remember, this is five rounds.

02:26:53.000 So that pace, there's no way you can do it for five rounds.

02:26:56.000 You just can't.

02:26:56.000 I don't know what his injury was like, but I know that Matt Serra, when he came back from herniating a disc in his back and he fought GSP, he was really not the same.

02:27:06.000 He was really not the same.

02:27:07.000 Most guys, when they injure a disc in their back, your back is a lot like your knee, which is a lot like your brain.

02:27:14.000 That's the good analogy.

02:27:16.000 A guy doesn't understand what a brain injury is like.

02:27:19.000 When you get KO'd, and then you get KO'd again easily, It's just like tweaking a knee and you rip a ligament and you get it fixed, but then your knee is always kind of sore.

02:27:30.000 When you hurt your back though, it's so different because it's connecting your nerves to all your muscles.

02:27:35.000 Is there anything worse?

02:27:36.000 A back injury?

02:27:37.000 I don't think so.

02:27:38.000 Because I've never seen any, except I guess a brain trauma, but I've never seen anything as far as a mixed martial arts related injury that can just end it.

02:27:46.000 Back or neck?

02:27:48.000 Yeah, back or neck and end it.

02:27:50.000 And your arms shrivel.

02:27:52.000 Your legs shrivel.

02:27:53.000 I have a friend, and he had two back surgeries, and for whatever reason, it didn't take, and his leg is, he has one leg that's shriveled.

02:28:02.000 Like, his right calf is like a bone.

02:28:05.000 And he's super self-conscious about it.

02:28:08.000 He wears sweatpants, he won't wear shorts, and he's all fucked up about it.

02:28:12.000 He's hoping it comes back, but the reality is, if it's more than a certain amount of time, it ain't coming back.

02:28:18.000 Yeah, it's tough.

02:28:19.000 So if you're out there and you got any sort of an injury, fucking don't tough it out.

02:28:24.000 Deal with it.

02:28:25.000 Deal with it immediately.

02:28:27.000 Go get it fixed.

02:28:27.000 Look into some prolo, too.

02:28:29.000 Fuck yeah.

02:28:29.000 Prolo therapy.

02:28:31.000 Prolo with ozone.

02:28:32.000 I had prolo therapy on my neck and it worked for me.

02:28:34.000 No, you didn't.

02:28:35.000 Yes, I did.

02:28:36.000 You had a neck problem, man?

02:28:37.000 Yeah.

02:28:38.000 No neck problem.

02:28:39.000 I'm chewing jiu-jitsu.

02:28:41.000 He's showering.

02:28:42.000 I really did have prolotherapy, and they shot it in my neck.

02:28:45.000 They shoot, I think, a saline solution in your neck.

02:28:48.000 Sugar.

02:28:48.000 Whatever it is, whatever it is, and it worked.

02:28:50.000 That brown's intense.

02:28:52.000 Oh, boy.

02:28:53.000 Nose to nose.

02:28:54.000 By the way, exactly the same height.

02:28:55.000 About to kiss.

02:28:56.000 Good stuff.

02:28:56.000 There you go.

02:28:57.000 Doesn't matter.

02:28:58.000 Doesn't matter.

02:28:59.000 No.

02:28:59.000 You know what's interesting about Matt Brown?

02:29:01.000 Like, he doesn't move that fluidly.

02:29:03.000 Like, if you looked at the way he moves and strikes and everything like that, you wouldn't, like, there's certain guys, you look at them, like, perfect example, Hector Lombard.

02:29:12.000 You look at a move and you go, oh, fucking Christ.

02:29:15.000 Oh, see this pace?

02:29:16.000 Look at this pace.

02:29:16.000 No, yeah, just super.

02:29:18.000 Look at this pace.

02:29:18.000 Oh!

02:29:19.000 Oh, head kick!

02:29:21.000 He gets in guys' fucking faces.

02:29:24.000 Maybe.

02:29:25.000 With his back, he might just let him take him down.

02:29:27.000 Boom!

02:29:28.000 Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.

02:29:30.000 Rolls him over on top.

02:29:31.000 This is what I'm talking about.

02:29:32.000 Head kick.

02:29:33.000 This is what I'm talking about.

02:29:34.000 High pace, charged up home crowd.

02:29:36.000 Body kick.

02:29:37.000 It's tough, man.

02:29:40.000 Brown breaks motherfuckers, too.

02:29:42.000 He does.

02:29:42.000 Ooh, good body kick.

02:29:43.000 But he's also, like, eating shots and comes back.

02:29:46.000 He's not a frontrunner, man.

02:29:48.000 Oh, no!

02:29:49.000 Big liver kick!

02:29:50.000 Oh, no.

02:29:51.000 He's fucking hurt, man.

02:29:53.000 He's hurt.

02:29:53.000 Don't stop it.

02:29:54.000 He's not knocked out.

02:29:56.000 Oh, he's...

02:29:57.000 He's going to survive.

02:29:58.000 He'll survive.

02:29:59.000 But look at this.

02:30:00.000 Eric Silva's got his back.

02:30:01.000 He's got to work that defense.

02:30:03.000 But you know, if you can get a hold of a glove, this is a good little break right here.

02:30:06.000 Two on one.

02:30:06.000 If you get two on one, you're pretty safe.

02:30:09.000 This is just a neck crank here.

02:30:11.000 How about zero on one?

02:30:12.000 Why doesn't he turn into the choke?

02:30:14.000 Turn towards his right.

02:30:16.000 He doesn't have body triangle either.

02:30:17.000 He might be taking a little break.

02:30:19.000 How long does it take to recover from a kick like that?

02:30:21.000 Bro, a tight body kick, you're in trouble for a while.

02:30:25.000 Depends entirely on how hard you get kicked.

02:30:28.000 Jordan Meehan dropped him with a fucking body shot.

02:30:31.000 He hit him with a vicious body punch.

02:30:33.000 Now he's got two on one.

02:30:35.000 Now he's trying to get to the right of it.

02:30:37.000 This is great back control.

02:30:39.000 Sort of, but he's got his legs crossed.

02:30:41.000 If Matt Brown steps over that, he could at least make his legs uncomfortable.

02:30:46.000 He doesn't have his legs crossed again.

02:30:48.000 But then when Hickson choked out Funaki, he had his legs crossed too.

02:30:51.000 But Hickson ain't worried about that shit.

02:30:54.000 Come on.

02:30:55.000 Oh, he's got it deep now.

02:30:57.000 Shit!

02:30:57.000 Nope.

02:30:58.000 Oh, boy.

02:30:59.000 It's just a neck crank.

02:31:00.000 Oh, if it fits under the shoulder.

02:31:01.000 What's he doing?

02:31:02.000 Oh, man.

02:31:03.000 That is a neck fucking crank.

02:31:04.000 What is he doing?

02:31:05.000 It's not under the neck.

02:31:07.000 It's not under the chin.

02:31:09.000 There you go.

02:31:09.000 Two on one.

02:31:09.000 Two on one for the love of God.

02:31:11.000 Defend your...

02:31:12.000 It's such a weird thing to allegedly bet on the over in a fight.

02:31:15.000 He's got a full body triangle, but he's not rolling towards the triangle side.

02:31:21.000 Why is he not doing that?

02:31:21.000 Now he's doing a good thing.

02:31:24.000 I've seen a guy tap once from an arm bar from that position.

02:31:28.000 He got two on one on a guy's arm and then extended it.

02:31:33.000 Against his neck.

02:31:34.000 That's exhausting for him though right now, right?

02:31:35.000 For Eric Silver or for Matt Brown?

02:31:37.000 No, for Matt Brown.

02:31:38.000 Yeah, but Matt Brown likes being exhausted.

02:31:39.000 Not too bad.

02:31:40.000 Does he?

02:31:41.000 Jesus, he's tough.

02:31:42.000 He's tough.

02:31:43.000 Fuck, he's tough.

02:31:44.000 Yep, they're UFC fighters.

02:31:45.000 Pretty tough.

02:31:45.000 Hey, you calm down back there.

02:31:47.000 What's your name again?

02:31:48.000 Oh, he fucked up though.

02:31:49.000 He trapped his right arm.

02:31:50.000 That's dirty.

02:31:51.000 He fucked up.

02:31:51.000 Now he's going to take that other hand out.

02:31:53.000 He's fine.

02:31:54.000 You've got it back.

02:31:55.000 Bro, this is very nerve-wracking.

02:31:57.000 We got two minutes left.

02:31:59.000 But you know what?

02:31:59.000 Matt Brown, he relishes these kind of fights, man.

02:32:02.000 He wants this gritty fight.

02:32:04.000 This is a lot of exertion.

02:32:06.000 He's gritty as shit.

02:32:06.000 But Eric Silva tried several times to exert a lot of energy to try to finish him.

02:32:11.000 Trapped arm again.

02:32:12.000 Trapped arm again.

02:32:13.000 You see how his heel is blocking his arm from coming in?

02:32:16.000 He's out.

02:32:17.000 He's up.

02:32:18.000 Oh, boy.

02:32:19.000 Holy shit.

02:32:20.000 Here comes the knees, son.

02:32:22.000 Oh, there goes one to the body.

02:32:24.000 That body shot was great.

02:32:25.000 And there's an elbow.

02:32:26.000 Another knee to the body.

02:32:27.000 And this is like the thing.

02:32:29.000 Eric Silva, he...

02:32:31.000 My God, Matt Brown is rough.

02:32:32.000 Matt Brown is rough!

02:32:34.000 Oh, he's coming.

02:32:35.000 No!

02:32:35.000 Coming on, man.

02:32:36.000 What is going on?

02:32:37.000 Eric Silva's in trouble.

02:32:38.000 All that exertion.

02:32:39.000 And this is a kid that wilted against John Fitch.

02:32:42.000 Same sort of scenario.

02:32:43.000 Matt Brown does not stop coming.

02:32:45.000 This pace is insane.

02:32:47.000 God, Brian, keep making comments like this.

02:32:49.000 He forces guys into war.

02:32:50.000 Holy shit, he's tough.

02:32:51.000 Oh, man.

02:32:53.000 Sorry, I can't help it.

02:32:54.000 I'm excited.

02:32:55.000 Boy, these guys sweat a lot.

02:32:57.000 Guys, these guys are all muscle.

02:32:59.000 There's no fat on them.

02:33:00.000 A minute and 20 seconds in, man.

02:33:02.000 All bullshit aside, this is crazy.

02:33:04.000 This is a great fight.

02:33:05.000 This is crazy.

02:33:06.000 The crowd is going nuts.

02:33:07.000 Fuck, he's rugged.

02:33:07.000 He's rugged.

02:33:08.000 This is exactly what Matt Brown wants.

02:33:10.000 Matt, keep your hands up, Matt.

02:33:11.000 Keep your hands up, please.

02:33:12.000 Shut the fuck up.

02:33:12.000 Keep his hands up.

02:33:13.000 Oh!

02:33:14.000 Oh, Eric Silva's in trouble, man.

02:33:15.000 Oh, no.

02:33:16.000 Beautiful trip.

02:33:16.000 Eric Silva's exhausted.

02:33:18.000 Punch him.

02:33:19.000 Oh, good block of that knee.

02:33:21.000 Are you kidding me?

02:33:22.000 Oh, took one to the head.

02:33:23.000 Elbow.

02:33:23.000 Matt's about to break him, I feel like.

02:33:25.000 45 fucking seconds is a long time when you're getting beat on.

02:33:28.000 Boom!

02:33:28.000 I love that throw.

02:33:29.000 That's Muay Thai, too.

02:33:30.000 That's that Muay Thai dump.

02:33:33.000 Oh man, he's all over this kid.

02:33:34.000 He's exhausted, man.

02:33:35.000 Oh, what is he doing?

02:33:36.000 He kicked him out of the ribs.

02:33:37.000 He was right in the ribs.

02:33:39.000 Jesus Christ.

02:33:40.000 Last thing I want to see is this fight fucking stopped on a DQ. Oh, dude.

02:33:44.000 Wow.

02:33:45.000 Silva's exhausted.

02:33:46.000 Look at him.

02:33:46.000 He's walking away.

02:33:48.000 Don't do that.

02:33:49.000 He can't even pick his legs up to kick.

02:33:51.000 Somebody's going out.

02:33:52.000 It's crazy.

02:33:53.000 Matt Brown.

02:33:54.000 Matt Brown.

02:33:55.000 That's crazy.

02:33:56.000 That's crazy if you're a morale.

02:33:59.000 Uppercut.

02:34:00.000 He drags dudes into hell, man.

02:34:02.000 I want to get to...

02:34:03.000 Oh!

02:34:03.000 Boom!

02:34:04.000 Wow!

02:34:06.000 Please let this fight keep going.

02:34:08.000 Please let him keep going.

02:34:09.000 Shit!

02:34:10.000 You guys didn't even bet on that.

02:34:11.000 Are you kidding me?

02:34:12.000 I didn't bet on that.

02:34:13.000 Wow!

02:34:14.000 Did you bet this fight?

02:34:15.000 Dude, he won that rally.

02:34:16.000 One and a half rounds.

02:34:17.000 Holy shit!

02:34:18.000 Are you kidding?

02:34:19.000 Damn, that was a crumb round!

02:34:20.000 You clearly give that round to Matt, right?

02:34:23.000 Oh, yeah.

02:34:24.000 100%.

02:34:24.000 Wow!

02:34:25.000 That's not even close.

02:34:26.000 Goddamn!

02:34:26.000 Let me see the replays on that.

02:34:28.000 Christ.

02:34:28.000 Wow, that was ridiculous.

02:34:29.000 No, this is a commercial for Bud Light.

02:34:32.000 With Arnold Schwarzenegger wearing a wig.

02:34:34.000 I've seen this commercial a thousand times.

02:34:35.000 Matt came out like a banshee.

02:34:37.000 Looks like Arnold can play some ping pong, actually.

02:34:40.000 He has a pair of legs on him.

02:34:41.000 You haven't seen me play ping pong?

02:34:42.000 It actually kind of looks like a ball.

02:34:43.000 On the map around a ping pong.

02:34:44.000 Has anybody suffered less from fucking their housekeeper and getting her pregnant than Arnold?

02:34:50.000 He went right into that to several giant movies.

02:34:54.000 Suffered less.

02:34:55.000 I don't think I'm speaking out of turn.

02:34:56.000 Has everyone's career flourished?

02:34:59.000 I asked him about that and he goes, what did you do?

02:35:00.000 And he goes, just laid low.

02:35:03.000 I swear to God, I go, what did you do when that happened?

02:35:06.000 Because he was going to do a movie where he has a Spanish lover and they said, look, you know, it's probably not a good idea.

02:35:11.000 And I go, what did you do with that?

02:35:13.000 He goes, I just laid low.

02:35:15.000 Yeah, he has a remarkable vision of what's going on.

02:35:20.000 He's kind of untouchable.

02:35:21.000 Here's the replay.

02:35:23.000 Oh my God!

02:35:25.000 And you see him tighten up.

02:35:29.000 Boom.

02:35:29.000 Brown is all over Silva.

02:35:31.000 That's the thing about Matt Brown.

02:35:33.000 You can't blow your wad on this motherfucker because he relishes.

02:35:36.000 Look at this.

02:35:37.000 He relishes war.

02:35:38.000 Look at this pace.

02:35:39.000 Are you kidding me?

02:35:40.000 Two and a half minutes, boys.

02:35:41.000 Come on.

02:35:42.000 You can make it.

02:35:43.000 Matt Brown's fired up, son.

02:35:44.000 That's it?

02:35:45.000 A round and a half and you win the bet?

02:35:48.000 I don't think your boy Silva's going to make it.

02:35:50.000 I don't think your boy Silva's going to make it.

02:35:51.000 Silva's getting fucking boxed up.

02:35:53.000 He's going to have to hurt Matt Brown.

02:35:55.000 I'm assuming the kids...

02:35:56.000 Oh!

02:35:57.000 Another one!

02:35:58.000 Again with that kick!

02:35:58.000 You need a takedown.

02:35:59.000 You need a takedown.

02:36:00.000 That's the same kick he fucked Sato up with, his last opponent.

02:36:05.000 Both a little fatigued.

02:36:07.000 How could you not be?

02:36:08.000 Well, I mean, Matt Brown just ate another liver kick.

02:36:11.000 He throws that front kick to the liver.

02:36:13.000 Are you kidding me?

02:36:14.000 Oh, God!

02:36:18.000 This kid will drag you into fucking hell, man.

02:36:21.000 Take him down!

02:36:22.000 Short elbows, too.

02:36:23.000 Gotta love it.

02:36:24.000 He's got a really weird strength and conditioning program, too.

02:36:27.000 What does he do?

02:36:28.000 He'll do five-minute rounds, like holding a hundred-pound ball.

02:36:32.000 Can I get my fucking kettlebells, please?

02:36:35.000 You guys just gotta get the address.

02:36:36.000 Email me your address.

02:36:37.000 I got nothing.

02:36:37.000 I got nothing right now.

02:36:38.000 You can write it down on that yellow sheet.

02:36:39.000 You don't have any workout equipment at home?

02:36:41.000 I'm getting a Matt Brown tattoo, I'll tell you that much.

02:36:43.000 Ha ha!

02:36:45.000 What would a Matt Brown tattoo be?

02:36:47.000 It's gonna cover my entire torso and my back.

02:36:50.000 Would it be him?

02:36:51.000 Oh, man.

02:36:53.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:36:53.000 This dude is just eating shots.

02:36:55.000 Silva tried a trip, but he has nothing in him.

02:36:58.000 Are you kidding me?

02:36:58.000 This could be it.

02:36:58.000 How much more time do you need Aubrey?

02:37:00.000 I need a minute.

02:37:00.000 I need a minute!

02:37:01.000 You need a takedown, bro.

02:37:02.000 I think the kid might last a minute.

02:37:05.000 I'm feeling that you might graze the head.

02:37:08.000 All that hair protection.

02:37:10.000 Oh my god!

02:37:11.000 He's all done.

02:37:13.000 There's no way this kid's lasting five minutes, I'll tell you that.

02:37:16.000 I agree.

02:37:16.000 He's exhausted.

02:37:17.000 He's not going to win, and he's not going to last.

02:37:19.000 He's just not going to.

02:37:20.000 At this point...

02:37:21.000 I hate when guys do that!

02:37:23.000 He's exhausted.

02:37:24.000 He's exhausted.

02:37:25.000 The only thing that's keeping him up right now is heart and will.

02:37:28.000 Does Silva have a huge weight cut?

02:37:29.000 Yes, he does.

02:37:30.000 Yes, he does.

02:37:32.000 He's a big guy.

02:37:33.000 I've seen him walk around outside the octagon in between fights, and I was like, Jesus.

02:37:37.000 That left hand is nasty.

02:37:40.000 Very nasty.

02:37:40.000 25 seconds, boys.

02:37:42.000 You know, Matt Brown's only upper body workout he does for his arm.

02:37:45.000 Oh, he kicked him again!

02:37:46.000 The liver kick.

02:37:47.000 Matt Brown, he does dumbbell presses, and that's it.

02:37:51.000 By the way, Silva can take a...

02:37:53.000 Oh!

02:37:54.000 He's hurt!

02:37:54.000 Matt Brown's hurt!

02:37:55.000 Oh my god.

02:37:57.000 His poor liver.

02:37:58.000 Incredible.

02:37:59.000 Well, he might have a broken rib.

02:38:00.000 I mean, if he's getting hurt that easy, beautiful takedown.

02:38:03.000 In the side control, Aubrey wins, ladies and gentlemen!

02:38:11.000 Damn!

02:38:12.000 Mounted Crucifix, too.

02:38:13.000 He better get energy or even stop the fight here.

02:38:15.000 Crucifix him.

02:38:16.000 Just keep that one in the face.

02:38:16.000 Well, I'll tell you what.

02:38:17.000 Matt Brown also has a very good fucking ground game, too.

02:38:19.000 A lot of people don't respect that ground game.

02:38:22.000 His ground game's nasty.

02:38:24.000 I gotta...

02:38:25.000 If he can step over this...

02:38:26.000 Oh, boy.

02:38:27.000 Oh, no, no, no.

02:38:28.000 Oh, my God.

02:38:28.000 Oh, man.

02:38:29.000 Oh, boy.

02:38:30.000 You gotta attack the arm.

02:38:32.000 What do you call that move?

02:38:33.000 What is that?

02:38:34.000 The fucking inverted triangle.

02:38:36.000 Yeah, that's a bad position for...

02:38:38.000 It's the wrong...

02:38:38.000 It's the other way, though, right?

02:38:39.000 That's hell for Silva.

02:38:40.000 He needs to attack that hand.

02:38:42.000 How is Silva breathing right now?

02:38:43.000 There he goes.

02:38:44.000 Uh-oh.

02:38:44.000 He's...

02:38:46.000 This is a wild fucking fight, man.

02:38:49.000 This is what I love about Mad Brown fights.

02:38:51.000 They're wild.

02:38:52.000 You never see a boring...

02:38:53.000 He's done.

02:38:55.000 The kid's done.

02:38:56.000 He can't defend.

02:38:58.000 Look at his left arm.

02:38:59.000 It's like it's just floating around there.

02:39:01.000 He's not doing anything.

02:39:02.000 He's just hoping to get a break.

02:39:05.000 Oh, that's like a head and arm choke.

02:39:07.000 It's almost like a darts from the mount.

02:39:09.000 Wow, he let go!

02:39:10.000 Oh my goodness, this is going to be it.

02:39:13.000 This kid's not getting out of the mount.

02:39:14.000 He's really not landing anything, though.

02:39:17.000 Yeah, but Eric Silva doesn't have anything left.

02:39:21.000 You know, I love Herb Dean in these situations.

02:39:24.000 Because look how closely and calmly Herb Dean's looking at this.

02:39:27.000 He's not freaking out.

02:39:28.000 And I like how he took a knee so his legs don't burn out like the big guy.

02:39:31.000 Oh!

02:39:33.000 He's out of Silva!

02:39:34.000 Triangle!

02:39:35.000 Triangle!

02:39:37.000 Holy shit.

02:39:39.000 Matt Brown is something else.

02:39:40.000 He locked it up!

02:39:41.000 He locked up the triangle!

02:39:42.000 Silva's in trouble.

02:39:43.000 Hooks the leg.

02:39:45.000 He's attacking the arm too.

02:39:47.000 He needs to keep attacking the arm.

02:39:49.000 Yeah, the arm is the shit.

02:39:50.000 But he also needs to hook that leg.

02:39:52.000 Keeping that leg is important.

02:39:55.000 Oh, he slipped out!

02:39:56.000 He's got slippery hair.

02:39:57.000 Oh, this is a fucking heart attack.

02:39:58.000 Slippery hair.

02:39:59.000 Another triumph is coming up.

02:40:00.000 Holy shit.

02:40:02.000 If you had bit the over for two rounds, you'd be having a goddamn heart attack right now.

02:40:06.000 Look at this.

02:40:07.000 Silva's on top.

02:40:08.000 What is going on?

02:40:09.000 Matt Brown's going to get his back for the end of this round.

02:40:12.000 Nope.

02:40:13.000 20 seconds!

02:40:13.000 This fucking fight is incredible!

02:40:15.000 He just needs to attack the ground and pound the body.

02:40:18.000 I feel sorry for the people that are watching this online that are 15 seconds behind.

02:40:24.000 Because we're like, we're talking, meanwhile the fight could be over.

02:40:29.000 This is nuts.

02:40:31.000 Pause your DVR, you fucks.

02:40:33.000 Stay with us.

02:40:34.000 My 15 seconds.

02:40:35.000 Talk about a main event, man.

02:40:37.000 You want to talk about being inspired?

02:40:39.000 What are we doing?

02:40:40.000 I gotta go piss out of my dick, my huge dick.

02:40:43.000 Oh my god, this is incredible.

02:40:45.000 What a fucking fight.

02:40:46.000 So far, best fight I've ever seen.

02:40:47.000 Hey, so, Michael Bisping's eye.

02:40:49.000 Let's go back to this, because we're in between rounds.

02:40:52.000 It's good!

02:40:53.000 Is it alright?

02:40:54.000 Is it alright?

02:40:55.000 Yeah.

02:40:57.000 Damn, dude.

02:40:59.000 You may be the worst actor of all time.

02:41:01.000 Don't ever try to go into acting after you're done fighting.

02:41:05.000 When we're smart, he seemed good.

02:41:07.000 But it's weird.

02:41:08.000 It's like one of them's dark.

02:41:10.000 Yeah.

02:41:11.000 He's looking at me like, let's not talk about this.

02:41:15.000 Alright, I'll let this go.

02:41:17.000 If I asked him, he wouldn't tell me, you know?

02:41:22.000 What are you gonna do?

02:41:23.000 He's a tough motherfucker.

02:41:25.000 He's having problems, too.

02:41:26.000 He's got a weak arm.

02:41:27.000 Really?

02:41:28.000 Same thing.

02:41:29.000 Yeah, pinched nerves.

02:41:30.000 Huron.

02:41:30.000 Your boy Huron?

02:41:31.000 Huron, yeah.

02:41:32.000 Same issue.

02:41:32.000 Yeah, I know.

02:41:34.000 Well, I rolled with Huron last week for the first time in about six months because he's had a neck issue.

02:41:39.000 Yeah.

02:41:39.000 How's he doing now?

02:41:40.000 Is he better?

02:41:40.000 Yeah, way better.

02:41:41.000 What did he do to get better?

02:41:43.000 He saw some specialists in Beverly Hills.

02:41:46.000 Oh, yeah?

02:41:47.000 What'd the guy tell him?

02:41:48.000 I'm not sure.

02:41:51.000 What a fucking fight this is so far.

02:41:53.000 I want to see that body shot.

02:41:55.000 Matt Brown, dig into the body.

02:41:56.000 Dude!

02:41:56.000 Oh, there it is.

02:41:58.000 Out of nowhere, he hurt him.

02:41:59.000 I mean, Matt Brown was coming on strong.

02:42:01.000 Here we go.

02:42:02.000 Round three, bitches.

02:42:03.000 Throw to the body.

02:42:04.000 This is a matter of whether or not Eric Silva has that second wind in him.

02:42:10.000 These motherfuckers that cut all this incredible weight...

02:42:12.000 It catches up with you, right?

02:42:14.000 Especially in this kind of a fight.

02:42:16.000 Because Matt Brown's not a big guy.

02:42:18.000 He's not cutting a shit ton of weight.

02:42:20.000 He's not a 200 pounder.

02:42:21.000 Oh, man.

02:42:25.000 He's just breaking motherfuckers.

02:42:28.000 Just breaking their will.

02:42:30.000 Oh, God.

02:42:30.000 This is awesome.

02:42:33.000 Oh!

02:42:34.000 Spinning backwards.

02:42:34.000 And he's just constantly on you.

02:42:36.000 You never get a break.

02:42:38.000 There's no rest.

02:42:39.000 Your heart rate's constantly going...

02:42:41.000 You know who I would fucking love to see fight Matt Brown?

02:42:45.000 Nick Diaz.

02:42:46.000 I think that might be the greatest fight in the history of the universe.

02:42:50.000 You might be right.

02:42:50.000 Are we back?

02:42:51.000 Oh my god.

02:42:52.000 Matt Brown versus Nick Diaz might be the greatest matchup of all time.

02:42:55.000 How's that go down?

02:42:57.000 I don't know.

02:42:58.000 I don't know.

02:42:59.000 Just chaos.

02:43:00.000 Diaz, just pure chaos.

02:43:01.000 Well, you know, Diaz is not a guy that's going to wilt like Eric Silva is.

02:43:06.000 I think there's a lot of people that do great in training, and they do great when they're not cutting the weight, and then they cut the weight and they think they're going to be okay, but they don't take into account the diminished...

02:43:19.000 Effect that it has on your body.

02:43:22.000 I mean, it has a big effect on your body.

02:43:23.000 When you're in a war like this, you really shouldn't be fighting a fucking guy like this at 170 pounds.

02:43:29.000 You know in football games when it gets to the- Oh!

02:43:31.000 In overtime when they go, this is a war of nutrition.

02:43:34.000 Nah, bitch.

02:43:34.000 For reals, this is a word of nutrition.

02:43:36.000 They never say nutrition.

02:43:38.000 They never say nutrition.

02:43:39.000 They never say nutrition.

02:43:39.000 They say attrition.

02:43:40.000 But the point, we get your point.

02:43:41.000 You got the point.

02:43:42.000 I got you.

02:43:43.000 I've got a lot of coffee, alright?

02:43:44.000 I hear you, but this is a podcast.

02:43:48.000 I'd probably let that go if this wasn't on the internet.

02:43:51.000 God, Brown's on top of him.

02:43:52.000 Fucking Eric Silva up.

02:43:53.000 Ooh, there's a cut now, though.

02:43:55.000 Now they're going to look to stop it with the bleeding.

02:43:56.000 He's mixing up.

02:43:57.000 Where's the blood?

02:43:58.000 Eric Silva's bleeding?

02:43:59.000 He's not protecting himself.

02:44:00.000 Do you stop it now or no?

02:44:01.000 Nope.

02:44:02.000 Herb Dean will give him some chances, man.

02:44:04.000 He's pushing off a little bit with his feet.

02:44:06.000 Push those feet.

02:44:08.000 That's it.

02:44:09.000 That's it.

02:44:09.000 He turtled up.

02:44:10.000 He gave up.

02:44:11.000 Wow.

02:44:12.000 Matt Brown.

02:44:13.000 Fuck you, oddsmakers.

02:44:15.000 You bitches were wrong twice.

02:44:17.000 These oddmakers are horrible.

02:44:18.000 Look at that.

02:44:18.000 Look at that guy in a Chuck Liddell outfit.

02:44:21.000 Chuck Liddell looks good.

02:44:22.000 Look at Eric Silva.

02:44:23.000 He is beaten down.

02:44:25.000 That motherfucker broke him.

02:44:27.000 Matt Brown is a beast.

02:44:28.000 That's fucking crazy.

02:44:29.000 He is a fucking beast.

02:44:32.000 What a great fight.

02:44:33.000 Holy shit, that was fun.

02:44:34.000 I wonder what he's going to say about his ribs.

02:44:36.000 What's Joe Silva doing?

02:44:36.000 He's in the ring.

02:44:37.000 He liked the fight.

02:44:38.000 We know the fucking secret code.

02:44:40.000 He's already making the next fight.

02:44:42.000 He's texting Johnny Hendricks.

02:44:43.000 He's texting Nick Diaz.

02:44:45.000 He's listening to this podcast.

02:44:46.000 That's a great idea, really.

02:44:48.000 Elbows to the eyeball.

02:44:49.000 He just elbowed him right in the eye socket.

02:44:51.000 That's where the cut came from.

02:44:53.000 Eric Silva gave it a serious fight, though.

02:44:56.000 Well, he did in the first round, but really the only thing he did is that one left kick to the body.

02:45:01.000 He just wiped blood off of his eye.

02:45:04.000 He's not in that league, man.

02:45:06.000 He's just not in that league.

02:45:07.000 This guy's in a hell league.

02:45:10.000 He dragged you into hell.

02:45:12.000 Hell league?

02:45:13.000 Membership?

02:45:13.000 Just him, though.

02:45:15.000 There's really no one that might like this.

02:45:16.000 He is rough as it gets.

02:45:18.000 He's been in there for a long time.

02:45:19.000 He knows what it feels like to be in hell.

02:45:21.000 I'm just super impressed.

02:45:22.000 He embraces it.

02:45:23.000 I'm super impressed that he bounced back from those herniated discs, too.

02:45:27.000 Not a scratch on his face.

02:45:28.000 He can go drink a beer right now.

02:45:29.000 God, can't he ever.

02:45:31.000 Wow, that was a great fight.

02:45:32.000 Took some shots to the liver.

02:45:33.000 He needs to do some core work, maybe.

02:45:36.000 Help his discs, help the body shots.

02:45:38.000 I'm sure he did something.

02:45:40.000 He has a very unique training regimen.

02:45:42.000 They were talking about it on my message board.

02:45:44.000 Detailing it.

02:45:45.000 Talking about some of the things he does.

02:45:47.000 He carries a barrel filled with water.

02:45:49.000 You have to carry it with your hips and he carries it for five rounds and moves around with it.

02:45:54.000 Does a lot of crazy shit.

02:45:56.000 Interesting shit.

02:45:57.000 All hips and cores and glutes.

02:46:01.000 All a bunch of things that his strength and conditioning coach is some pretty controversial ideas.

02:46:05.000 Monday you're going to see on my Instagram me just carrying a big ass water bottle around not knowing what the fuck I'm doing.

02:46:10.000 It's a copycat league, everybody.

02:46:12.000 You know what else works?

02:46:13.000 Girls.

02:46:13.000 True.

02:46:14.000 Could carry girls.

02:46:14.000 Get a heavy chick.

02:46:15.000 They're uneven.

02:46:16.000 Big old heavy chick.

02:46:16.000 Not like a barrel.

02:46:18.000 The thing about a barrel is you can't clasp your hands around.

02:46:20.000 So what does he do?

02:46:21.000 I don't understand.

02:46:22.000 Hoists it up.

02:46:24.000 You know...

02:46:25.000 Arches his back.

02:46:26.000 You have to have your hips into what you're saying.

02:46:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:46:28.000 You have to have your hips into it the same way you would take a person down.

02:46:31.000 Because you have bad technique, you're not going to be able to hold the barrel up very long.

02:46:33.000 Or even defend the takedown.

02:46:35.000 Who are these fucking jokers?

02:46:36.000 I'll tell you what, these little skinny neck bitches don't know shit about MMA. Shut your mouth.

02:46:40.000 They probably made the odds.

02:46:41.000 That's probably the odd makers, Jay and Dan.

02:46:43.000 Did you make the odds, you fuckheads?

02:46:45.000 Why don't you go talk about cricket?

02:46:47.000 Talk about some shit you understand.

02:46:50.000 So I guess the podcast is over, right?

02:46:53.000 I mean, is this basically over?

02:46:53.000 That was a good time.

02:46:55.000 Good fight.

02:46:55.000 I think I'm calling this a success.

02:46:58.000 I think this is probably the greatest idea we've ever had, ever, collectively.

02:47:02.000 Brilliant!

02:47:03.000 Come see me in Edmonton and Toronto.

02:47:05.000 Matt, look at this.

02:47:06.000 Eric Silva still hasn't gotten up, man.

02:47:08.000 He's sitting there.

02:47:09.000 He's exhausted.

02:47:09.000 He's broken.

02:47:10.000 And you know what else is?

02:47:12.000 He's realizing right now, I'm not going to be the champion.

02:47:15.000 He can't beat that guy, right?

02:47:17.000 I'm not going to beat that guy.

02:47:19.000 I'm not going to beat guys like him, and I'm not going to beat guys that can beat him.

02:47:22.000 Maybe he needs to fight at 85. Yeah, well, maybe he needs to stop lifting weights.

02:47:27.000 This is the thing that dudes have to realize.

02:47:29.000 Look at Matt Brown.

02:47:30.000 Not a big guy, man.

02:47:31.000 I wish I could hear this.

02:47:32.000 Give him some volume.

02:47:33.000 Give him some volume.

02:47:39.000 Give it up, man.

02:47:40.000 Campaigning for the title.

02:47:41.000 It's a little early for that, maybe.

02:47:43.000 Well, he's won eight in a row now.

02:47:44.000 I don't know about that, man.

02:47:45.000 He's won eight in a row.

02:47:45.000 I don't know about that.

02:47:46.000 I would say I would definitely let him fight for the title.

02:47:51.000 I mean, Hendricks right now, Johnny has to recover from torn bicep surgery.

02:47:56.000 This is the thing about the top of the food chain.

02:47:58.000 So if you're fighting Woodley, if you're fighting Roy McDonald, you're fighting Hendricks, and you come forward like that, you're going to take it down.

02:48:04.000 You're right.

02:48:05.000 It's a different animal, right?

02:48:07.000 It's all about matchups.

02:48:10.000 Now him versus Carlos Condit, that's an amazing fight.

02:48:14.000 Carlos isn't shooting a double leg.

02:48:15.000 Yeah, but Carlos has got ACL reconstruction.

02:48:18.000 He does?

02:48:19.000 He's going to be out for a while.

02:48:20.000 I'm just saying, certain guys, the top three guys at the very top are horrible matchups for him.

02:48:27.000 I don't know about all that, man.

02:48:29.000 But here's the thing.

02:48:30.000 What if Woodley beats Hendricks for the title, Matt Brown fights Woodley, and it gets into the fourth round?

02:48:37.000 You know?

02:48:38.000 I agree.

02:48:38.000 The thing about this motherfucker is, look, I don't think there's a baddest man on the planet anymore.

02:48:43.000 And it is, I totally agree about matchups.

02:48:46.000 I totally agree.

02:48:47.000 But this kid, man, I'm telling you, Matt Brown might be as fierce as anybody I've ever seen fight.

02:48:54.000 Everybody was saying that when he was in the Octagon.

02:48:57.000 Or rather, when he was on the Ultimate Fighter.

02:48:59.000 There was a thing about him.

02:49:02.000 He breaks motherfuckers.

02:49:04.000 He breaks motherfuckers.

02:49:05.000 And I don't think people realize breaking another UFC fighter is insane.

02:49:10.000 Especially when they're ranked number 14 in the world.

02:49:13.000 I mean, think about the gritty guys you've seen.

02:49:14.000 He throws those elbows, man.

02:49:16.000 Just over and over.

02:49:17.000 I mean, out of all the guys who have fought in the UFC, who's fiercer?

02:49:21.000 I mean, Vanderlei when he was in Pride, right?

02:49:24.000 Vanderlei when he's in Pride is another level.

02:49:26.000 But he was also juiced to the gills, let's be honest.

02:49:28.000 That's why I mean another level.

02:49:29.000 It's a different thing.

02:49:30.000 It's a different thing when you're on...

02:49:31.000 That guy's having a real struggle tying that belt.

02:49:33.000 All sorts of...

02:49:33.000 I don't think that's how you do it.

02:49:34.000 Yeah, that guy needs to learn how to tie a belt.

02:49:36.000 You can't give a belt if you don't know how to tie a belt.

02:49:38.000 What's that fucking granny knot?

02:49:39.000 That shit.

02:49:40.000 What are you, fishing?

02:49:41.000 What are you doing there?

02:49:42.000 What are you fucking...

02:49:43.000 You're tying up a boat?

02:49:44.000 That thing's all goofy in the back.

02:49:46.000 Look at this.

02:49:46.000 The guy ruined the fight for me.

02:49:48.000 You're little cuties, man.

02:49:49.000 Aw, these boys.

02:49:51.000 That's awesome.

02:49:52.000 That's adorable.

02:49:52.000 That's awesome.

02:49:52.000 That's adorable.

02:49:54.000 Imagine that.

02:49:54.000 You will go to your fucking room when your dad tells you to go to your room.

02:49:57.000 Damn right.

02:49:58.000 Your dad's Matt Brown.

02:49:59.000 Those kids, they just watch some crazy shit that they don't understand.

02:50:03.000 Look at their eyes.

02:50:06.000 Look at their eyes.

02:50:08.000 Plus, genetics.

02:50:11.000 UFC active winstreaks.

02:50:12.000 Jon Jones, 11. Hennon Burrell, 7. Matt Brown, 7. Damn.

02:50:16.000 Weidman, 7. That's impressive.

02:50:18.000 The difference is Weidman, never lost.

02:50:21.000 John Jones, never lost.

02:50:23.000 Hennenborough, never lost.

02:50:26.000 None of those guys have ever lost in the Arctic.

02:50:28.000 The last time Matt lost was Seth Pazinski, which is pretty crazy.

02:50:34.000 He's choking around.

02:50:36.000 Yeah, they're joking right now.

02:50:37.000 You know how happy he is right now?

02:50:38.000 Yeah, no kidding.

02:50:39.000 That's a big, big win.

02:50:39.000 But I'm just saying after a war like that, he's fine.

02:50:41.000 You know, he's so right too.

02:50:43.000 He was completely disrespected by the odds.

02:50:45.000 You know, he's talked about it quite a bit in the pre-fight that it's two and a half to one.

02:50:49.000 He was like, what the fuck is that about, man?

02:50:51.000 Yeah.

02:50:52.000 He's like, I've won six fucking fights in a row.

02:50:54.000 And you look at the quality of competition.

02:50:56.000 True.

02:50:57.000 And then you look at the guys that Eric Silva fought and lost to.

02:51:00.000 Fitch and knocked out by Dong Young Kim.

02:51:03.000 Again, Dong Young Kim's a beast.

02:51:05.000 No doubt about it.

02:51:06.000 But how are you going to have that kid losing to that guy, beating Sato, and then coming off of that fight being a two-to-one favorite?

02:51:15.000 That's crazy, man.

02:51:16.000 That is weird.

02:51:17.000 Super weird.

02:51:20.000 Good fights, ladies and gentlemen.

02:51:22.000 Great fights.

02:51:23.000 This podcast was a success.

02:51:24.000 I'm going to quit the UFC and just do this with you guys.

02:51:26.000 Yeah!

02:51:28.000 I'm done.

02:51:28.000 This is more fun.

02:51:29.000 This is way more fun than doing commentary.

02:51:31.000 It's so fun.

02:51:32.000 You know?

02:51:33.000 It's about as good as it gets.

02:51:35.000 Boy, I think I found my future.

02:51:36.000 I don't like traveling, guys.

02:51:38.000 I don't either.

02:51:39.000 No one likes leaving.

02:51:40.000 We're older.

02:51:41.000 No one likes leaving.

02:51:41.000 We're older.

02:51:42.000 We just did this right from the comfort of the podcast studio and fucking might have been my favorite podcast of all time.

02:51:50.000 We just need a shitload of pickles.

02:51:52.000 Yeah, pickles.

02:51:53.000 Pickles, bulletproof coffee.

02:51:54.000 You guys enjoy the wine.

02:51:55.000 We're good.

02:51:56.000 I enjoyed every aspect of this.

02:51:58.000 Look at this.

02:51:58.000 This is a stare down.

02:51:59.000 Here's the highlights again.

02:52:01.000 Eric Silva.

02:52:02.000 Eric Silva.

02:52:02.000 And he hurt him with that kick.

02:52:05.000 It's kind of a front kick.

02:52:07.000 It's almost like Cucuno's kick.

02:52:10.000 That sort of crescent kick.

02:52:12.000 That he does, but look, all over him, working the neck crank.

02:52:17.000 Too much effort in that.

02:52:18.000 Yep, you're right.

02:52:19.000 He gassed out because of that.

02:52:21.000 But I think it's also the body weight cut.

02:52:24.000 I agree.

02:52:25.000 When I ran into Silva in Brazil, I swear to God, the kid had to be 200 pounds.

02:52:29.000 If he's not 200 pounds, he's fucking close.

02:52:31.000 There's that kick again.

02:52:32.000 It's like a front kick, but at an angle.

02:52:35.000 It's how Cocuno throws it.

02:52:38.000 It's like, they call it a crescent kick, but it's not a crescent kick, because it's a front kick, because it's with the ball, the foot.

02:52:44.000 Look, he hooked him with the body there.

02:52:46.000 Probably the same spot where he got hurt before.

02:52:49.000 That's a nasty crucifix.

02:52:50.000 Eric Silva was just overwhelmed by the ferocity of Matt Brown.

02:52:55.000 Didn't know what to do.

02:52:56.000 Just was never comfortable, ever.

02:52:57.000 I tell you what, I'm going to say it right now, Matt Brown's my favorite fighter.

02:53:01.000 Next to Brendan Shaw.

02:53:03.000 I'm hurt, man.

02:53:04.000 I'm hurt, bro.

02:53:06.000 Not that he's the best, but his fucking...

02:53:09.000 Funnest to watch.

02:53:10.000 He just forces everything to be war.

02:53:14.000 You have no choice but to be in a war.

02:53:16.000 Yeah, no choice.

02:53:16.000 You're not going to sit back and make it look pretty.

02:53:18.000 It doesn't matter who you are.

02:53:20.000 When you sign up to fight Matt Brown, you better get ready to have a crazy pace.

02:53:24.000 All the pretty shit's out the window.

02:53:26.000 You're going to be in the clinch.

02:53:27.000 You're going to be eating body shots.

02:53:28.000 It's crazy to watch something like that.

02:53:30.000 He must have won a lot of Fight of the Night bonuses.

02:53:32.000 Oh, well, if he didn't, there's a fucking terrible travesty.

02:53:37.000 Amazing.

02:53:38.000 Amazing fights.

02:53:39.000 Alright, that's it.

02:53:40.000 That's our chopper.

02:53:41.000 That's our chopper.

02:53:42.000 They're here picking us up.

02:53:43.000 They're here picking me up.

02:53:44.000 I'm rich as shit.

02:53:45.000 We'll be back tomorrow night.

02:53:47.000 What are we doing?

02:53:48.000 Tomorrow night?

02:53:48.000 Whatever you want.

02:53:49.000 Tomorrow night with Aubrey.

02:53:50.000 We're going to talk about flying through the jungles of Peru.

02:53:52.000 Welcome to the jungle!

02:53:54.000 On the top of feathered serpents.

02:53:56.000 He just got back from more trips.

02:54:01.000 I hung out with Gandalf the White Wizard for a week.

02:54:03.000 That's all I'm going to say.

02:54:04.000 I like it.

02:54:05.000 Really?

02:54:05.000 Yeah.

02:54:06.000 Do you guys want to go eat somewhere?

02:54:08.000 Yeah.

02:54:08.000 See if we can go grab a steak.

02:54:10.000 All right.

02:54:11.000 We're done, ladies and gentlemen.

02:54:12.000 That's it.

02:54:13.000 Thanks to Onnit.

02:54:14.000 Go to Onnit.com.

02:54:15.000 O-N-N-I-T. Use the code word ROGEN. Save 10% off any and all supplements.

02:54:20.000 Anything to tell people about Onnit?

02:54:21.000 Anything crazy?

02:54:22.000 Anything going on?

02:54:23.000 Nah, everything's good.

02:54:24.000 New shit coming out.

02:54:25.000 Oh, the Onnit Academy is awesome.

02:54:27.000 We're really consolidating all the unconventional workouts and stuff like that.

02:54:30.000 So go to Onnit, click on the Academy.

02:54:32.000 Ton of info.

02:54:32.000 Maces, clubs.

02:54:34.000 We got a new suspension training system.

02:54:36.000 We got all kinds of shit there.

02:54:37.000 Can a brother get some alpha brain?

02:54:39.000 Fuck yeah, man.

02:54:39.000 Yeah, we got some right here.

02:54:40.000 I just need addresses, people.

02:54:42.000 And we got a kettlebell for your ass coming out soon, too.

02:54:45.000 Oh, shit!

02:54:46.000 The motherfucker of all kettlebells coming out.

02:54:48.000 Wait till you see this one.

02:54:49.000 I can't say a word.

02:54:50.000 How much time do you think before that comes out?

02:54:52.000 The last one I showed you?

02:54:53.000 Yeah.

02:54:54.000 That'll be six months.

02:54:55.000 Six months from now, your dick will be hard as steel.

02:54:59.000 And you'll be so excited to get this.

02:55:01.000 It's a kettlebell with Mac Brown's likeness.

02:55:02.000 Your dick will be harder than Rogan eating that stuff from GNC 10 years ago?

02:55:06.000 Exactly, Mac 10. Mac 10?

02:55:08.000 Mac 10?

02:55:09.000 Between now and then, though, please get in shape so you can use this fucking thing.

02:55:13.000 Because it's going to be heavy.

02:55:15.000 Brian, you're not ready for this.

02:55:16.000 I don't know about that.

02:55:17.000 You're not ready for this.

02:55:18.000 How big of a kettlebell do you use?

02:55:21.000 I mean, I don't know, man.

02:55:23.000 I don't know.

02:55:25.000 I'm not maxing out with kettlebells.

02:55:26.000 I bet he could pull a 70-pound bow without having a fucking hernia.

02:55:29.000 It's a 90-pound bow, by the way.

02:55:31.000 But you struggled with a 60. I don't have the video on that.

02:55:34.000 I'm not sure about that.

02:55:36.000 I was worried he was going to shoot in my neighbor's yard.

02:55:40.000 Guys, I had hit my back that day, so I didn't want to herniate.

02:55:45.000 Jihad, ladies and gentlemen.

02:55:46.000 I didn't want to herniate my back.

02:55:47.000 Alright, tomorrow.

02:55:48.000 And we got a fucking crazy week coming up.

02:55:52.000 We got, I think you say his name, Cenk Uygur from Young Turks.

02:55:58.000 Great guy.

02:55:58.000 He'll be here on Monday, Tuesday.

02:56:01.000 We're doing, hopefully if we work out the times, we had to change the times a bit.

02:56:06.000 But Doug Stanhope will definitely be here and Tom Rhodes as well.

02:56:10.000 Wednesday we're doing the Tripodcast, which is Duncan Trussell and Chris Ryan.

02:56:18.000 Thursday, Randall Carlson.

02:56:20.000 Friday, Rhonda Patrick.

02:56:22.000 Got a lot of shit happening, ladies and gentlemen.

02:56:24.000 A lot of fucking shit.

02:56:25.000 But tomorrow, tomorrow, we talk about Gandalf.

02:56:27.000 We talk about Peru.

02:56:28.000 We talk about the White Wizard.

02:56:30.000 Alright, we love you guys.

02:56:31.000 Thanks for tuning in and thanks for being a part of the very first ever, what do we call this thing?

02:56:37.000 The Fight Companion Podcast?

02:56:40.000 Fight Companion?

02:56:41.000 That's what I'm calling it.

02:56:42.000 The Fight Squad Podcast?

02:56:43.000 Whatever it is.

02:56:44.000 Whatever you call it.

02:56:45.000 The Rat Pack?

02:56:46.000 That's it.

02:56:47.000 Much love.

02:56:47.000 Fight Rat Pack.

02:56:48.000 See you soon.

02:56:48.000 Peace.

The Joe Rogan Experience - May 11, 2014

Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - May 10, 2014

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