Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - May 27, 2018
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Length
3 hours and 15 minutes
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192.41837
Summary
The guys discuss the UFC 246 main event between Cowboy Cowboy Cowboy and Wonderboy, and the upcoming fight between Cowboy and Darren Till. They also discuss the crazy weigh-in situation with Cowboy and what it means for the future of the UFC and its future in the UFC. Also, the guys give their predictions for the main event of UFC 246 between Cowboy vs Wonderboy and what they think of the chances of Till vs Till in the fight. The guys also give their picks for the fight and give their favorite moments from UFC 246. And of course, there's a little bit of trash talk and a whole lot of general trash talk. Enjoy the episode and spread the word to your friends about this one! -The Guys -Your Hosts: John Rocha, Matt Mitrione, and Matt Kuchta. -Our Sponsorships: -VegasWrestling.net -Our sponsor of the show: Vaynerchuk.co.nz/OurAdvertisers/Vaynerchucks -Our ad-free version of the podcast is now available on all major streaming platforms. If you like the show, please consider becoming a patron and leaving us a review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe, Rate, and tell us what you think about the show! We'll be looking out for you in the comments section below! Thank you for supporting the show and spreading the word out there! - John and Matt are looking out to you! Cheers! Timestamps: 0:00 - What's your favorite thing you've been listening to the show? 5:00: What do you think of this episode? 6:00- What would you'd like to hear about it? 7:30 - What are you looking forward to watching the next episode of the next one? 8:30-9:00 9:00s- What's the best part? 11:30s - What s your favorite part of the movie? 12:00 is your favorite moment? 13:00/11: What you're most important? 15:00? 16:00a. 17:00 & 15:40s - Who do you would you're going to be the most important part of your day after watching the fight? 18:00 +16:00+ 17 & 16:20s - Which is your biggest takeaway?
Transcript
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We got up early as a motherfucker, ladies and gentlemen.
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It's definitely 1960. I forgot he knocked out Whitaker.
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Getting down to 170 was a fucking battle for him.
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Dude, you look at Wonderboy, what he's accomplished, it's so impressive.
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All the indicators would point that Wonderboy should win this fight, but I'm on the fence, man.
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But he did come up real short on the weigh-in, which really bums me out.
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Now, I had heard that his pregnant girlfriend is in, this is what everyone's saying, is in the hospital.
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And that she's had some serious issues, and he's been going back and forth to the hospital, and he hasn't...
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We just didn't have a chance to cut the weight right.
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A lot of people claim, you know, that that's exactly what the issue was.
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That drama's never good, especially your first main card, main event in your hometown against Wonder Boy.
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Well, the Cowboy fight was a big pressure fight, but he rose to the occasion of that in a big way.
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I mean, there's been guys who have blown up before, but the hype on Till, and I'm all up on his dick, but there's a ton of hype on him.
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It is, but he's fucking four and a half pounds over championship weight.
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You know, fighters that have missed weight are undefeated this year.
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I think what's interesting, what Wonderboy did, he said you've got to weigh 188 the next day.
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Like, whatever advantage that he got from not cutting that extra three pounds, you know, now he's three and a half pounds, now he's lost a little bit of it, I guess.
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If you're Wonderboy though, you want to drag this into later rounds.
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You know he's had some drama cutting weight and he had to cut more weight to maintain it the day of.
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Like, what Wonderboy does is at kicking distance.
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Like, if you watch the exchanges that he's at, he moves real good at the waist like a snake, like back and forth.
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But he wants to keep you not even at Muay Thai kicking distance.
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And closing that gap is when Wonderboy's the most dangerous.
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And if you see some of his training footage, he seems to be concentrating on blitzing in and countering and sidestepping and countering.
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If you look at Wonderboy's history, whenever he fights aggressive dudes, they get fucked.
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But I'm telling you, man, nothing in this fight would surprise me.
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Unless Darren Till just goes out there and just mercs him.
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But if Till does win, strap a fucking rocket ship to that boy's back.
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Because now that Bisbing's retired, UK needs a face, that's him.
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You beat Wonderboy and you knock out Wonderboy, it's fucking off to the races.
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What he did to Cowboy, it wasn't just impressive.
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He controlled every single aspect of the exchanges.
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Cowboy got like one good knee off at one point in time.
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The thing, too, about Till where I think he gets so much hype is a lot of guys talk, like Colby Covington's an amazing, talented fighter.
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But when Darren Till talks, I'm like, God, it's almost that Conor McGregor effect.
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He believes it, and he has those ridiculous skills, and that's going to go a long ways.
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There's going to be no jiu-jitsu in this, Eddie.
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All I know about Darren Till is his fight with Cerrone.
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You were going to have Gunnar Nelson on the card, though.
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But you're going to have Gunnar Nelson and Neil Magno, which was a fun fight.
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They were going to do Gunnar Nelson until, but for whatever reason, they decided to go with Wonderboy.
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Did he already fight on the undercard, or is he on the main card?
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Well, he lives in Finland, but what is his background?
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He's a really good wrestler who also has wild ass strikes, man.
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For Wonderboy, though, there's not a ton of upside for him for this fight.
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It's a good matchup for him, but you're in dangerous territory, right?
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I feel like all the pressure's off Wonderboy right now, especially after he's missing weight.
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But if you're Wonderboy, even if you starch Till, they're not giving you a title shot.
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Until Woodley loses that strap, Wonderboy's not fighting for a title.
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You gotta remember, the only loss was to Tyron Woodley and then to Matt Brown.
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First of all, he's saying, why don't I get a shot at the interim title?
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How are you giving the interim title to Colby Covington, who only beat Damian Maia, who's 40 years old, who's clearly past his prime?
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How is that good enough to get him a shot at the interim title?
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But at the same time, yeah, it goes a long way this day and age.
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But at the same time with RDA, you know, they're not doing Colby any favors.
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Chicago to fight RDA, which is, if you look at Colby's style, it's probably the worst matchup for him.
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So I'm hoping, not hoping, I think what their plan would be, RDA wins that, fights Woodley, which is a tough matchup for Woodley, and if RDA were able to beat Woodley, then you have Wonderboy slip in there.
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Or Colby wins, and then you got mad shit talking with him and Woodley, and it gets very interesting.
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Colby's the underdog in every one of those fights.
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But RDA-Woodley, you got a barn burn in your hands.
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Because as much as they, you know, I love Woodley, I think his style is ridiculous, he's going to be tough to beat.
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You know, I think they want some bit of turnover in there with Woodley.
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I mean, he's not going to be able to take him down.
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Woodley has, I'll put you to sleep, instantly striking.
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As far as putting Muay Thai, putting it together, kicks with the hands.
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You put that speed, the power, the explosiveness.
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He just got his labrum repaired, which is not the worst shoulder surgery.
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No, the labrum, he had some sort of a tear in it that fucked up in the Damien Maia fight instantly.
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They stitch it back together again, but he's gone through crazy PRP and all kinds of other shit.
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Now, he put up a video of him hitting mitts, and it's only been about three months since the surgery, and he's hitting mitts hard.
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He was talking about all the different things he was going to do.
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He came on the podcast just a few weeks after shoulder surgery, and he was moving around normal and moving his hands around normal.
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But it really depends entirely on how bad this is.
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When the bicep tendon gets torn off the muscle or off the bone, and then they have to put it back in, staple it down.
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If you're a pitcher and that shit goes south, you're diggity done.
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But I bet Woodley, so you got RDA, Colby, so obviously the winner of that will fight Woodley.
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Yeah, could very well be on the December 31st card.
00:10:08.000
You know, I mean, I think they were trying to talk about him being on the August card in L.A., but that's not going to happen.
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Well, they were waiting for GSB Nate, and obviously that's not happening, so who do you have now in L.A.? Let's see.
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The card's not nearly as good as it was going to be.
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No, it was going to be a bar burner, but Chicago's stacked.
00:11:25.000
Dos Anjos, Colby Covington, Holly Holm, Megan Anderson.
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You got CM Punk versus that, I forget his name, Jackson.
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Over, Overeem, Curtis Blaze, Claudio Gadeja, Esparza.
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And then on the undercard, you got Rashad Evans.
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But out of the game, in entertainment, I'm like, I get what you're doing.
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It's the worst fight of all time in UFC history, skill-wise.
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Does that CM Punk Jackson stuff bother you, Joe, or are you used to it now?
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In the UFC. I think it's great that he's testing himself.
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In the UFC. Even if they wanted to do it in the UFC, have him on the prelims, put him on FS1, make it...
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I'd assume if you're seeing Punk, you're that big of a draw.
00:13:05.000
How many people are going to buy that pay-per-view to watch him fight?
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So just like that Raw, the Raw series, which Fox has now, which a lot of people, I don't think they realize, Fox decided to go with the WWE instead of the UFC. They turned down the UFC and went with WWE. And now they have the Raw series, which gets like three-something million viewers every time they air it.
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Yeah, their testosterone is usually way higher than everyone else's.
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If he goes to the ground, homeboy's in trouble.
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Yeah, we were talking before the podcast about how good Renato La Ronja's scouse is.
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Yeah, well, it's crazy if this is all going on, as we heard, that while his girlfriend is pregnant and in the hospital.
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That's the last thing you want to deal with fight week.
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Jamie is vibrant today because it's game seven of the Cavs.
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Did you wake up and pray this morning, Jamie, for LeBron James' health?
00:16:18.000
I saw that three-pointer that he hit, like, I don't know, game six or something.
00:16:24.000
They actually have something interesting going on.
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They have a concussion protocol that's getting one of their players out.
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So, like, a guy got hit in the head during the game, and he can't play until he goes through, like, five tests.
00:16:36.000
I like Kevin Love because he's a UCLA guy, but man the fuck up.
00:16:51.000
There's a couple players that have had some problems.
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It's not rampant like the NFL, obviously, but they get in trouble and they don't want to be liable just like the NFL. They get sued at the end of the day.
00:17:04.000
The last people you'd think would be putting people on the bench.
00:17:08.000
Especially Game 7. So what's going on with the ESPN deal?
00:17:20.000
It was supposed to be Fox and ESPN were going to split it, right?
00:17:24.000
Yeah, and then Fox didn't want to pay the premium.
00:17:27.000
I think it was a home run for the UFC, man, to land at ESPN. It's as serious as it gets as far as major sports.
00:17:36.000
And also, with ESPN, so you have ESPN +, which will get some fight nights, and you have regular ESPN, ESPN2. With Fox, not that they didn't do a great job, but it was FXX. I think ESPN can learn from the mistakes from Fox and just make it that much better.
00:17:55.000
I think you're right about that because there's been some times that I thought I had my DVR set, but then I get home and it was on FS1. I'm like, motherfucker!
00:18:03.000
Or sometimes it's like my bat NASCAR is playing, so go to FXX times 6. It's like, well, fuck, man.
00:18:11.000
Or a baseball game goes long and you've got to go to FS2. You've got to find it.
00:18:18.000
My only concern on ESPN is because ESPN obviously has the NFL, has the NBA. How much focus are we going to put on the UFC? We don't want to be the side chick.
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Because they're married to the NBA, NFL. That's their baby.
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But they've been putting on some good boxing matches.
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Yeah, they had another really good fight on recently, too.
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I don't know how his English is, but we'll figure it out.
00:19:13.000
Sometimes it's like you think it'd be a good idea to have somebody on, but if you had them on, it'd be like, ooh, how long could you talk to them?
00:19:20.000
Well, it'd be for the Showtime below the TV show, so it's only a six-minute segment.
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Yeah, when you've had Cyborg on, but you've had her on with her boyfriend, her boyfriend translates?
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Well, no, her English is pretty good, but if there's ever issues, she'll, like, take over, you know?
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Like, she'll explain it, and then it's a little, I'm a little like, God, I don't know what you're talking about right now, and then she'll take over.
00:19:45.000
When I had Yoel on, it was the best, because Joey was translating for Yoel.
00:20:13.000
Yeah, my grandma, when she started, you know, I was the first of the grandkids to lose Spanish and felt really shameful because of that.
00:20:22.000
But man, it was really embarrassing hanging out with my grandmother and she's going off and I'm like, I don't know what she's saying.
00:20:35.000
It's tough when you have a translator because you don't get in that flow.
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There's a flow and you're kind of connecting, going back and forth.
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Where if there's a translator, the chemistry's not there.
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But the one thing that is good, though, what I find is that it allows you more time to think about what you're going to say.
00:21:03.000
But sometimes when I have too much time to think about the question, it's not as good, it's not as organic.
00:21:09.000
Then I feel like I work for ESPN or something like that.
00:21:12.000
Right, I know exactly what you're talking about.
00:21:16.000
That's the hard part of having these conversations with people, is keeping them conversations and not turning them into some corny-ass fucking interview.
00:21:27.000
If you can't, like sometimes I feel myself, especially with certain bonds.
00:21:45.000
Yeah, man, I've watched those interviews, those standard interviews now, where, you know, there's no connection between the person talking and the other person answering the questions, and they're so gross.
00:21:55.000
You know, I was having this conversation with Ken Jeong.
00:22:06.000
I'm like, dude, have your public set up Joe or something.
00:22:12.000
And the example I gave him, I go, say you went on Tonight Show and you do a four-minute segment, you're going to have to...
00:22:18.000
You're literally promoting whatever movie or the stand-up, your special coming out.
00:22:22.000
That's all you're doing is promoting, trying to get people to buy that.
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If we film this, people are going to be a fan of you.
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Then buy whatever you're going to be into or whatever you're pitching.
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It's crazy that there's no other place for that.
00:22:41.000
Even Howard Stern would do interviews with people.
00:22:50.000
To get, like, dirt out, you want to find out who you're fucking.
00:23:17.000
That's a great name, dude that knocks teeth out.
00:23:21.000
Josh Nier, in my opinion, he's a guy that if you're a hardcore fan, you know who Josh Nier is.
00:23:34.000
That's like calling yourself Hands of Stone if you're a boxer.
00:23:40.000
Not saying that Josh Neer's in the same breath as Roberto Duran, but as a fan, a fan for a long time, yeah, that's his nickname.
00:23:59.000
But so did Homeboy and Strikeforce that came over to the UFC. They almost had the double knockout.
00:24:06.000
He hit a homeboy with a body shot and he got knocked out.
00:24:21.000
Some people just go hard with those fucking made-up nicknames and make them up for themselves.
00:24:34.000
Like, imagine if you were a kid who went in the neighborhood and just gave yourself a nickname.
00:24:55.000
If it's 2018 and you're just starting out and you call yourself the Pitbull, fuck off.
00:25:09.000
Pitbull's There's about seven pitbulls in Bellator.
00:25:28.000
Have you ever seen that Netflix documentary where they use Jack Russell terriers to get rats?
00:25:37.000
The documentary's all on how fucked up rats are and how many of them are.
00:25:46.000
Yeah, that is why Jack Russells are so aggressive.
00:25:50.000
Little Terriers, it's one of the reasons why they're so aggressive is because they're constantly chasing after these fucking rats.
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When they get them, they tear these rats apart, man.
00:26:07.000
But Jack Russell Terriers in particular, one of the reasons why they're so small and so aggressive, they would go into holes and go after rats.
00:26:22.000
But this documentary will freak you the fuck out.
00:26:25.000
There's more rats than there are people in New York City.
00:26:27.000
Aren't there like 30 million or 60 million rats or some shit?
00:26:47.000
How come we just can't just breed rats and just throw them in the dump and just have them eat?
00:26:51.000
I don't think they eat like fucking milk containers.
00:26:57.000
Breed Eddie Bravo's got a rat breeding service.
00:27:06.000
Yeah, but now we gotta get rid of the rat shit.
00:27:34.000
He looks like the guy with the rose in his mouth from Mike Tyson's Punch-Out.
00:27:42.000
Darren Till's got some prominent cheekbones, huh?
00:27:46.000
I bet that's why he got that nickname, the Gorilla.
00:27:48.000
He looks like he's got at least 5% Neanderthal.
00:28:00.000
When people give themselves their own nicknames.
00:28:07.000
I hated that shit because it sounds pretty homosexual.
00:28:14.000
Because Higgin and Jean-Jacques would always call me that.
00:28:18.000
They called the wrestlers guillotine the Twister.
00:28:20.000
And I asked Jean-Jacques, I'm like, how do you say the Twister in Portuguese?
00:28:34.000
And it started sounding good when I'd compete and people would start yelling at Twister.
00:28:39.000
Then I thought, okay, okay, I think I like it now.
00:28:45.000
I just kept thinking of the game, the twister and the yellow dots and the green dots.
00:29:08.000
That would be a great license plate if you could fit all those words.
00:29:38.000
Like, Callan called me Big Brown for the longest.
00:29:42.000
And then I would walk by, people would yell out, Big Brown!
00:29:59.000
But even when you were doing Taekwondo, no one gave you a nickname?
00:30:04.000
When I was playing pool a lot, I was Joe the Comedian.
00:30:06.000
Dude, GSP went off on the podcast he just did on your turning sidekick.
00:30:14.000
That's GSP for a half an hour is going on about his power.
00:30:39.000
People still, you know, John Danaher just put out a DVD. Well, he put out a video series, but I think it's on demand, right?
00:30:48.000
He's still wearing Wranglers and fucking Under Armour tops, of course, but on TV TV. Hey, bro, he's got a strong fanny pack game.
00:31:08.000
George and I, we went over the front leg sidekick first, which is like the most important part, the turning sidekick.
00:31:14.000
Once you get the front leg sidekick down, you understand how that works, then you turn.
00:31:19.000
And then it's basically you're turning and then throwing the front leg sidekick.
00:31:24.000
But most people do the front leg sidekick wrong.
00:31:27.000
When your knee is too low, you lose all the power.
00:31:38.000
And he's only doing it once, and it's going to be the winner of Conor Khabib.
00:31:45.000
That sideways stance is hard to fuck with, man.
00:31:47.000
I used to spar with this guy named Larry Jones.
00:31:53.000
He was like 6'2", but his fucking legs went all the way up to his armpits, man.
00:32:01.000
Is that the guy that was standing in front of the bag when you first walked by that taekwondo school?
00:32:13.000
Yeah, if you heard it, but he was like six foot two, black as coal, bad motherfucker.
00:32:19.000
You walking by that Taekwondo, you just whoosh!
00:32:23.000
I saw him flatten a lot of people with that, too.
00:32:29.000
Anyway, my friend Larry Jones, I was too short.
00:32:33.000
When I would spar with him, my legs were normal length.
00:32:36.000
He was 6'2", and I just could not get past that front leg sidekick.
00:32:41.000
That front leg sidekick is so hard, and they can just move around with you.
00:32:45.000
It's basically like a jab, and they can move around with you.
00:32:50.000
Yeah, and you're trying to get an angle on them.
00:32:52.000
There's actually a thing on Henzo's Instagram the other day.
00:32:57.000
We had a photo of Hickson throwing a sidekick, and he was talking about how Hickson liked the sidekick best for Vali Tudo because you never lost your base.
00:33:08.000
Like if you throw a roundhouse kick, you throw the kick, you're spinning around, you're resetting.
00:33:12.000
He was kind of throwing like a front push kick sidekick.
00:33:15.000
And out of all the Gracies, it looked like Hickson threw it with the most power.
00:33:19.000
Because Hoist would throw it, but it didn't look powerful.
00:33:22.000
But when you watch Hoist-Sakuraba 2, when it was at the Coliseum, that's a forgotten fight.
00:33:29.000
Watch how Hoist would be on his back and Sakuraba standing over him.
00:33:42.000
He's on his side and he was throwing some serious sidekicks off his back and fucking up Sakuraba's knees.
00:33:50.000
If you remember, Hickson did that to Funaki when Funaki got Hickson down.
00:33:56.000
People forget that was Hickson's greatest victory because Funaki was the guy that people were saying, well...
00:34:03.000
If he went to the ground with Hickson, he could actually hang with Hickson.
00:34:06.000
But he cracked Hickson with a big right hand, hurt him, fucked up his eye, broke his orbital, and they went to the ground.
00:34:14.000
And as Finaki was standing over Hickson, Hickson fucked his knees up.
00:34:17.000
He fucked his knees up with sidekicks off of his back.
00:34:29.000
Would practice upkicks specifically, just in case he was in that purgatory position where he could, boom!
00:34:34.000
And it worked against Oleg Tochtarov, remember that?
00:34:40.000
First upkick KO. Yep, and I think it was either, I think Murillo Bustamante did it to Jerry Bolander, or it was either Fabio Giorgio to Bolander or Bustamante to Bolander.
00:34:53.000
You know, upkicks are now legal in combat jiu-jitsu.
00:35:09.000
We added them to combat jiu-jitsu because guys were getting too comfortable in purgatory.
00:35:13.000
Just standing over Other guys, they didn't want to go into anybody's guard.
00:35:17.000
So now with the threat, it's really easy to deal with upkicks.
00:35:20.000
So all they gotta do is just get to their knees and start passing.
00:35:30.000
But the threat of them will keep you either away from purgatory or get on your knees and commence to passing.
00:35:45.000
Yeah, there's been probably, I would say, seven.
00:35:52.000
So, we're not adding up kicks to combat jiu-jitsu to increase KOs.
00:36:13.000
You understand that you can't just do certain things.
00:36:20.000
Dude, I forgot Holly Holm versus Megan Anderson.
00:36:28.000
It's her first shot at the UFC. And right away, Holly Holm.
00:36:33.000
Is there anybody that could give Cyborg a match?
00:36:40.000
There's not a woman who's going to give her any challenge.
00:37:04.000
She comes out with Me Too and just beats the shit out of a dude.
00:37:12.000
Harvey Weinstein comes out of the floor right behind Uriah.
00:37:35.000
Weren't you guys saying that guys could never...
00:37:40.000
An MMA fighter would always beat a girl, right?
00:37:45.000
When we were talking about Ronda Rousey back in the day?
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He's like 50. Yeah, I did a podcast and it was rough.
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Especially as me growing up with Mike Tyson, they say never meet your heroes, so I think of him as that Mike Tyson in my head.
00:38:23.000
And then when I saw him, he had sweats on and some white New Balances and he was out of shape.
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You really give a fuck that he wore sweatpants.
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I go out and they're like, he's in the front row.
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I go out there and he's in matching sweatsuit top to bottom.
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He's in Canada, and he's a former pro wrestler, right?
00:39:39.000
It's kind of like the McGregor matching grays, you know?
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I want 10% of the credit for bringing that shit back.
00:40:09.000
You're the guy who I know who's ride or die about fanny packs, and then Krokop still fucks with it, but he's unaware on how big of an impact he had on it.
00:40:29.000
He just picked him up and slammed the shit out of him.
00:41:10.000
Well, it really depends entirely on drug testing.
00:41:15.000
I mean, Russians, when it comes to boxing, combat sports, Russia's really...
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That's what I was putting under the same banner.
00:41:25.000
But the thing is, what would happen is, if it did become huge in the Olympics, then people would realize how guys like Floyd Mayweather and so many different professional boxers got their start as Olympic gold medalists and then went on to become these huge superstars in boxing.
00:41:44.000
When you have a real great amateur background, people get super amped up about seeing you go pro.
00:41:53.000
You get super amped up about seeing those guys go pro.
00:41:56.000
In America, it's a little different, though, for whatever reason, when it comes to boxing.
00:41:59.000
We don't get behind it like the other countries.
00:42:06.000
We used to love it when a guy was an Olympic gold medal.
00:42:17.000
Deontay Wilder is a bronze medalist, which ain't bad because he started boxing at like 21. Oh, shit.
00:42:23.000
Anytime you hit them double outside ashies in MMA, they're risky.
00:42:28.000
Well, it's such a weird position to find yourself in if a guy can punch you in the face.
00:42:31.000
And again, it goes back to your combat jiu-jitsu.
00:42:36.000
You understand what positions are like super dangerous because there's positions that guys regularly practice in jujitsu that will get you fucked up if a guy can punch you in the face.
00:42:54.000
Does the UFC being acquired by ESPN affect the Fight Pass and EBI at all?
00:43:01.000
Because are they going to continue with the Fight Pass?
00:43:05.000
As a matter of fact, the president of Fight Pass, when that deal went through, emailed me personally to let me know.
00:43:11.000
He goes, listen, this deal has nothing to do with Fight Pass.
00:43:35.000
The only problem you'd have to worry about is now that people are going to have to subscribe to ESPN +, to get the full ESPN experience now, they're going to have to pay for that?
00:43:52.000
They're not getting rid of it as far as it growing could be an issue.
00:43:57.000
They're gonna stream some fights still on Fight Pass.
00:44:06.000
Because now ESPN Plus and ESPN Platform's going to have 30 fights.
00:44:10.000
Then ESPN's going to have 12 pay-per-views at least.
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I think it's just going to be a database for stuff like Eddie's, old school fight libraries, and then, you know.
00:44:29.000
I think it's going to continue what it's doing.
00:44:39.000
I think Fight Pass is awesome, and if you want to just go old school and watch a bunch of great old fights, it's the best format on the planet Earth.
00:44:48.000
But I like the fact that we would have the prelims, some fights that you couldn't see anywhere else but Fight Pass, and then they would have certain Fight Pass cards.
00:44:56.000
How many times have we watched do Fight Companions?
00:44:59.000
But now you can do it on ESPN. Look at that shit.
00:45:14.000
Eddie, what could he have done to get out of this?
00:45:31.000
And then he's got to get up to the leg press position where he could get up on...
00:45:37.000
And then eventually get over to the side of the cinched body triangle and try to break that shit apart.
00:45:44.000
You've got to break those body triangles apart.
00:45:47.000
You've got to prevent them from happening in the first place.
00:45:49.000
As soon as someone takes your back, first thing is don't let it get too deep.
00:45:58.000
The Fight Pass thing, so the ESPN deal is U.S. only, it says.
00:46:02.000
So that'd be for U.S. broadcasts only, and Fight Pass is still for the rest of the world.
00:46:13.000
They sent me an email saying, don't worry about it.
00:46:26.000
So in America, it's just going to affect Fight Pass and the UFC. Everyone else, they're good to go.
00:46:32.000
But also, there's no really pay-per-views internationally.
00:46:48.000
ESPN broadcast deal that includes 10 full UFC cards or primary ESPN channels, ESPN, ESPN2, along with the prelims for a dozen UFC pay-per-view events.
00:47:02.000
Another 20 fight cards will stream on ESPN +, totaling 30 full events annually between ESPN's broadcast and streaming outlets.
00:47:10.000
All full fight cards are expected to have 12 bouts.
00:47:15.000
Additional and shoulder UFC programs such as Dana White's Contender Series, a new all-access series, and pre- and post-fight shows and more are also included in the deal.
00:47:30.000
So the Dana White's Contender Series is going to kind of be the focus now, which I think is good.
00:47:36.000
Listen, man, making those dudes stay in that house for six weeks and all that crazy shit, I don't like it.
00:47:42.000
So even with DC and Stipe, who are light heavyweight champion of the world, heavyweight champion of the world, and you get the insight on those guys, even those ratings suck dick.
00:48:10.000
The biggest one is Sean O'Malley, but then you're also going to have a homeboy.
00:48:24.000
Nick Newell's going to beat the shit out of people on the Contenders.
00:48:29.000
He fought for a world title against Justin Gaethje.
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But it's good to get him exposure and let people know how good he is.
00:48:36.000
Depends how many people are watching Contender Series.
00:48:39.000
You've got some real potential talent out there.
00:48:42.000
I think the real thing about what's interesting about the Contender Series is now people you've never heard of are very good.
00:48:48.000
I mean, how many people do we know that are just guys in the gym?
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They never fought, or they've had one amateur fight, or something like that, but you realize, like, when you see them roll with, like, really good guys, like, holy shit, this guy's, like, just a hair below a world-class level.
00:49:06.000
There's so many guys like that now, because it's such a popular sport.
00:49:11.000
I'm saying he has the potential to face one of those guys in the Contender Series.
00:49:16.000
See, I almost think that's the opposite of what they should be doing.
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Because if I'm a young dude, I'm trying to get my break in, and I'm in the Contender Series, and you give me Nick Newell, who has 17 fights, who's 17 and 1. Right.
00:49:30.000
And this is coming from a guy who had three fights, who fought Roy Nelson in the finale.
00:49:39.000
The UFC world champion, you know, you gotta get in there and prove yourself.
00:49:43.000
Yeah, you gotta go in there and beat those guys.
00:49:45.000
But other guys aren't fighting that competition.
00:49:49.000
Yeah, for someone, they're gonna be like, dude, I draw Nick Newell?
00:49:52.000
Sean O'Malley was fighting guys of his same similar and blew up, just knocking dudes out.
00:49:57.000
Well, maybe it'll be like one or two fights and then they'll get Nick in the UFC. It should be one so they're familiar with it and then go.
00:50:06.000
If he gets into that division, he's going to be tough to beat.
00:50:13.000
I think they're worried that if he gets head kicked, which he's never been knocked out from the head kick, they're worried with his arm, if he can't defend it and he gets brutally knocked out, people are like, how would you...
00:50:22.000
How can you put that guy on TV? Well, you gotta realize, too, think about how much your arm weighs.
00:50:27.000
Like, I mean, it's not an advantage by any stretch of the imagination, but the rest of him is bigger and heavier.
00:50:33.000
Like, what is, I mean, how much do you think he's missing?
00:50:44.000
Dude, I think mine is about 100. No, seriously.
00:50:50.000
Guys that grapple, there's a guy that grapples without a leg, and his upper body is that of a dude that's two weight classes above the guys he's fighting.
00:51:03.000
An average arm weighs about 5% of your body weight.
00:51:12.000
So let's say his, yeah, it's not that big of an advantage.
00:51:17.000
Oh, Jason Knight, Maquan Armand, Connie's next.
00:51:23.000
He started off super hot and then lost his last two.
00:51:44.000
They're like, okay, you beat Shaus Skelly, and he lost to Benitez, too.
00:51:54.000
He got knocked out by Llamas, and then he comes back, and he lost to Mowgli.
00:52:02.000
Maquan Amircani might be the toughest fight out of all three of those.
00:52:11.000
But this Maquan Amircani is a wild motherfucker.
00:52:23.000
Yeah, I've been, like, leaving him alone if he thinks I forgot.
00:52:41.000
I just didn't want to fuck with him before his fight.
00:53:00.000
He's still waiting to see what exact suspension is, but the word is he's gonna fight, you know, fairly soon.
00:53:14.000
And I think in his heart, he's a very good guy.
00:53:20.000
He does fucked up things and he makes mistakes, but I think John, in his heart, is a very good guy.
00:53:26.000
I just think he just makes poor choices and he's wild.
00:53:29.000
And one of the reasons why we love him is that wildness.
00:53:33.000
Yeah, I don't like that he hurts people, but it's typically when guys act like that, I usually write them off like, fuck that, dude.
00:53:41.000
I literally think he's the best of all time to grace the octagon.
00:53:44.000
I want to see him back, and I think he comes back at heavyweight.
00:53:49.000
I think his comeback fight is Brock, and then he fights for the heavyweight title against the winner of Stipe DC. That would be amazing.
00:54:07.000
Dude, I had the weirdest dream that I had shorts on with no underwear and I jerked off in my car.
00:54:18.000
I came all over myself and I couldn't figure out what to do and then I had to go and meet some friends and I was outside the door and for some reason Kyle Kingsbury was in there.
00:54:29.000
I'm like, I'm covered with my own jizz, and I don't have any underwear, and I just have my shorts on.
00:54:33.000
And then I woke up going, what the fuck is wrong with me?
00:54:51.000
Have you had a dream where you jacked off before?
00:55:00.000
Wait a minute, you had a dream you had sex and you actually busted a nut?
00:55:06.000
My dream was like, I had to figure out, I was going to meet some people and apparently didn't have any underwear on, I didn't have a shirt on, and I had to crack the door open.
00:55:44.000
That's like one of them, I gotta go back to high school and graduate things.
00:55:58.000
I was too many credits shy of graduating high school.
00:56:05.000
I did, but you remember when you were in high school, there was always that one dude that somehow or another fucked up and had to repeat his senior year.
00:56:14.000
So he's 18, everybody else is 17, this fucking dude is in high school with you.
00:56:23.000
I have this recurring nightmare that I don't think it's supposed to be a nightmare.
00:56:27.000
I think it's supposed to be a great dream, but it always turns into a nightmare because when I used to DJ at strip clubs, I had a good time.
00:56:40.000
To be a strip club DJ, you got to know your CDs and the girls that are going up and you're matching up the songs with the girls.
00:56:50.000
So in my dream, I think it's supposed to be a great dream, but I can never read the CDs and the managers getting mad at me.
00:57:00.000
And the only CD that I remember, the only one is The Crystal Method because that was my go-to CD. No other CDs.
00:57:07.000
I'm like, oh, I could always pull that one out.
00:57:10.000
Yeah, because, you know, you got to change the song every two minutes and 45 seconds because every song means money for the club.
00:57:18.000
So if you let a song go three and a half or four minutes, the manager will get on your ass.
00:57:25.000
So if there's a girl, a girl's bus about to go on stage and 15 seconds before she goes on stage, she goes, skip me.
00:57:34.000
I got 15 seconds to find a replacement and to change the music.
00:57:39.000
Yeah, so in my dream, I'm having a fucking nightmare.
00:57:41.000
I'm like, I can't see the girl on stage, and I can't see my sissies.
00:57:50.000
I never figure, in my dream ever, do I realize that I make money teaching jiu-jitsu.
00:57:56.000
It's always, I lose my job, and I'm like, what am I going to do now?
00:58:08.000
Like, all right, ladies and gentlemen, bring up Dandy on stage seven.
00:58:18.000
You have to because if you talk regularly to the main stage, no, it was always, it was always my Simpsons DJ strip club voice.
00:58:27.000
All right, guys, put those hands together for London.
00:58:32.000
No, but you have to say, you have to do that goofy voice to cut through.
00:58:37.000
If you just get on a mic in a strip club and you just talk like...
00:58:43.000
Well, not only that, like, it has to have some drama to it, right?
00:58:48.000
Yeah, she doesn't like doing this job, but here she is.
00:58:56.000
Hopefully she'll find a good guy and leave this job.
00:59:26.000
Remember his nickname, The Country Diaz, because he's very similar to Diaz Brothers?
00:59:44.000
When your friend goes on, he goes, she's actually a stalker and really good...
00:59:58.000
Alan Belcher's jiu-jitsu is pretty awesome for MMA. This kid's been talking so much shit.
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That was one of the greatest fights of all fucking time.
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I saw him a week later, and I was so impressed by it, I scared him.
01:00:39.000
Roussimar gets out, has Alan Belcher in all sorts of leg lock trouble, and Alan Belcher just dismantled all that shit and beat the fuck out of him.
01:00:53.000
No, he brought in, for that fight for a month, he brought in Dean Lister and Davi Ramos, who's in the UFC. Davi Ramos.
01:01:02.000
He had Dean Lister and Davi Ramos on his legs for a month.
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He said the first two weeks he tapped out probably 500 times, but then he started to learn how to stop the leg locks.
01:01:13.000
Then he made a DVD called Immunity, How to Stop Leg Locks.
01:01:23.000
Dude, I'm telling you, Homeboy's talking so much shit.
01:01:26.000
When they did the post, you know Wayne's when they always interview him?
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He was like, I'm going to beat the shit out of him.
01:01:33.000
Well, Jason Knight is one of the few fighters in the UFC where they can't show his flag.
01:01:38.000
Because his flag's got the fucking rebel flag on it.
01:01:40.000
Mississippi still has the Confederate flag in their state.
01:01:43.000
Jamie, can you get the fight on that screen as well, please?
01:01:49.000
It says Fight of the Night written all over it.
01:02:00.000
It's like we're at Buffalo Wild Wings minus the wings.
01:02:08.000
So, Amir Khan has been talking crazy shit, huh?
01:02:12.000
He goes, this is a long trip for you to come just for one round to get knocked out.
01:02:34.000
Well, I mean, it kind of has to be after those two losses in a row.
01:02:38.000
But Americani was a guy who burst on the scene a few years back.
01:02:43.000
And, you know, was really promising, but we haven't...
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You don't want to get in these scrambles and this straight-up cockfight with Knight, man.
01:03:06.000
He's controlling his biceps and talking shit to him.
01:03:12.000
Yeah, he did a good job at avoiding any kind of guard attacks.
01:03:16.000
Yeah, the way he did that by planting down those biceps are very smooth.
01:03:19.000
Bicep control, and then he postured up at the perfect time, broke through those legs.
01:03:27.000
That snake tattoo hanging over his shoulder is interesting.
01:03:50.000
If you look at his face, it looks like a Great White's nose.
01:04:05.000
Because your face just gets smashed in too much.
01:04:07.000
Then we get the technicians like, all right, cool man.
01:04:16.000
Maquan just keeps looking for that right hook counter, and he's doing it real nice.
01:04:48.000
Especially when you get kicked right above the knee.
01:04:53.000
It just feels like you're hoping your ligaments stay together, and they do.
01:04:57.000
They almost always do, but every time you get hit, they're like, shit!
01:05:03.000
Dude, how about Amanda Nunes kicks against Raquel Pennington?
01:05:06.000
Pennington said that first kick, she had surgery on that leg.
01:05:09.000
He stomped right on that knee and folded him a little bit.
01:05:17.000
Guys that are fighting today, there's a whole bunch of them.
01:05:22.000
They're still out there and they don't throw anything.
01:05:25.000
At the lighter levels, they kind of mix it all up.
01:05:32.000
I love Damien Maia fucking more than any other fighter out there.
01:06:19.000
If he triangled his legs, he'd get him in a dead orchard.
01:06:29.000
He's trying to get to Invisible Collar at this point.
01:07:13.000
Jason Knight caught him with some good shots, dude.
01:07:19.000
With 40 seconds left to fucking go down to guard, like, I don't care if you like it or not, it's a bad idea, man.
01:07:25.000
Listen, man, if that fight was two minutes longer, he could have caught him in something.
01:07:31.000
You know how hard it is to get a finish guy in 30 seconds?
01:07:41.000
If pulling guard is so suicidal, like people say...
01:07:47.000
Why is it so hard for Damien Maia to pull guard?
01:07:50.000
He'll sit on his butt and people don't want to get on top of him.
01:07:54.000
Because that's literally the only way he can win.
01:08:08.000
Dude, he's still confident, but he's a little bit like, ah, fuck.
01:08:11.000
And Amir Khani's still taking big, deep breaths.
01:08:20.000
Anyone else just rootin' hard as fuck for Knight?
01:08:29.000
I like watching him fight, but I also like a guy coming back from two fights down.
01:08:43.000
Dude, 1FC's putting on some good fucking shows.
01:08:48.000
I like it, too, but compared to the UFC. And then there's Bellator, too.
01:08:52.000
Yeah, but the problem with 1FC is just about exposure.
01:08:56.000
They've got some great TIE fighters over there.
01:09:14.000
Yeah, it is, but 1FC, I'm telling you, Brendan, it is very big overseas.
01:09:21.000
If you're not in the UFC, it's a tough go, man.
01:09:26.000
It's a tough go, but I think 1FC is catching up in Asia.
01:09:31.000
I mean, they're bigger than Bellator is over there.
01:09:45.000
Well, with their heavyweight tournament they're doing, they're killing it right now.
01:09:56.000
It's crazy that they don't have a heavyweight champion.
01:10:05.000
But maybe he fights better at heavyweight than he does at light heavyweight.
01:10:09.000
Did you see Phil Davis' head kick KO? That was crazy.
01:10:37.000
We're missing Callan right now going, God, these guys are sweating.
01:10:39.000
Why doesn't he just hit him with the right hand?
01:10:42.000
Callan would be like, why doesn't he just throw?
01:10:44.000
No, Callan would go, you've got to keep your hands up.
01:11:04.000
You wouldn't give that first round 10-8, would you?
01:11:15.000
The new scoring system is when you show a clear advantage.
01:11:20.000
You'd have to have someone look at it, but a clear advantage...
01:11:24.000
Is the difference between winning and winning clearly.
01:11:29.000
I would have to look at it, like how they frame it now.
01:11:33.000
I think we have a real problem being imprisoned by that 10-point system.
01:11:42.000
There have been a bunch of early stand-ups from the ground.
01:11:47.000
Well, the Leon Roberts one with Damian Maia and Usman was ridiculous.
01:12:00.000
Not only that, I mean, you're dealing with a fighter that is taking a fight on last-minute notice against a super-dominant wrestler, and he essentially is in a great position and could maybe get his back.
01:12:16.000
There was another fight recently when they were on the ground and the guy was like side controller of the mount and the ref stood him up.
01:12:23.000
On that same chili card, there's also in the girls fight where the female referee let them just stay on their butt with no engagement.
01:12:31.000
No, obviously she doesn't want to be down there.
01:12:36.000
Jason Knight, he's got a fucking wicked mission control.
01:12:50.000
I mean, Connie ain't doing shit on the ground either.
01:12:54.000
I mean, he might be doing okay defensively, but he's not getting shit off offensively.
01:13:00.000
Which, to me, should be a win for Jason Knight.
01:13:23.000
The judges for sure give him that to Americani.
01:13:27.000
But he didn't do anything with him on the ground.
01:13:33.000
It sucks, though, because Jason Knight was doing work and threatening him the entire time on the ground.
01:13:43.000
I feel like it should be like a 100-point system.
01:13:46.000
I feel like there should never be any stand-ups.
01:13:48.000
Five-minute rounds, there should never be any stand-ups.
01:13:56.000
By the time they get to the ground, there's not any get-downs.
01:14:07.000
You're going to get a chance in four minutes to get back up to the feet when the round's over.
01:14:11.000
Because what happens, Brendan, this is what happens.
01:14:16.000
If they stand them up because they're holding, then guys, why would they learn jiu-jitsu?
01:14:21.000
If they get taken down, if a striker gets taken down, all you got to do is get good at holding and the ref's going to stand them up.
01:14:26.000
That's what it leads to and it fucks the sport up.
01:14:29.000
That gives a striker a reason to not learn jiu-jitsu and just hold and look to the referee to stand him up.
01:14:37.000
Or you just learn wrestling and keep winning by just holding him down.
01:14:41.000
Then you've got to learn how to fight off your back.
01:14:47.000
Look at Amerikani looking for a takedown again.
01:14:49.000
Standing up the fight, that takes everything backwards.
01:14:51.000
It makes it so you don't have to learn jiu-jitsu.
01:14:53.000
If the guys are trying to win the fight, though, it's an issue, man.
01:14:55.000
You could say the same thing about them standing.
01:15:08.000
In two minutes, if there's no take-down in two minutes, we get them down.
01:15:15.000
They should do more of those when a guy has someone's back.
01:15:18.000
Remember how Hickson used to do that to the stomach?
01:15:28.000
Dude, those are some serious kicks to the stomach.
01:16:01.000
I haven't talked to him in a while, but he seems to be doing great as the commentator.
01:16:30.000
I don't know, maybe he's got a rationalization for it.
01:16:42.000
But Jason Knight is threatening off of his back.
01:16:49.000
That's actually New York crackhead right there.
01:16:56.000
He's trying to stack them and just pressure through and just survive here.
01:17:00.000
He's talking shit like he's not doing anything.
01:17:09.000
He stood him up right when we were talking about Mark Goddard.
01:17:16.000
Jason Knight was going, dude, he's not doing shit.
01:17:40.000
I mean, that's literally all he's been able to do in this fight other than that couple of jabs he landed in the first round.
01:18:00.000
He's losing the fight, but what the fuck has Amir Khani done?
01:18:10.000
When the guy on top isn't doing shit but defending, he got the takedown.
01:18:18.000
But how much of this should be scored with Jason Knight controlling off of his back and going for submissions versus Amir Khani literally here doing nothing.
01:18:33.000
Yeah, but he's not doing anything but holding him in the spot.
01:18:37.000
He's at least trying to be offensive off of his back.
01:19:23.000
I don't think he's going to win any fans in this fight.
01:19:27.000
You've got one arm under the arm, one arm over the top, and you step over with the legs.
01:19:40.000
Well, isn't a ten-finger choke the one when it's in the chest?
01:19:44.000
You got him in the chest, and you have the head planted in the chest.
01:19:48.000
We would call it the 10-finger choke, say Peruvian necktie.
01:19:50.000
For whatever reason, we'd call it the 10-finger choke.
01:19:52.000
Well, Tony D'Souza is the reason why everybody calls it the Peruvian necktie, because he's from Padu.
01:19:58.000
Yeah, and there's a Peruvian darts as well, too.
01:20:19.000
Nah, I bet Jason Knight loses the fight decision.
01:20:47.000
He didn't do anything on top, but those takedowns count.
01:21:03.000
I think the first guillotine master in MMA was that little pequeno guy.
01:21:11.000
He used to fight and shoot a little Brazilian guy.
01:21:20.000
I think he was an Andre Penedaris guy from Nova Union.
01:21:26.000
He was a guy that if you shot in on him, he was going to guillotine you.
01:21:31.000
And he had his own special 10-finger guillotine.
01:21:35.000
Everyone's got their own little modifications for guillotines because you really can't see the grip.
01:21:40.000
When you get a guillotine, the grip is actually hidden.
01:21:43.000
It's hard to tell what kind of guillotine you're putting in.
01:21:46.000
Even with the high elbow guillotines, the marcelotene, it's hard to tell if you're holding it like this or like this, because the grip is hidden.
01:22:08.000
Were you big on that weird grip where the palm of the bottom hand is facing outward and the palm of the top hand is facing towards you?
01:22:19.000
That's a great grip if you get your hands together.
01:22:24.000
But the reason why Marcello, instead of going here, he goes here.
01:22:35.000
So if there's a guy here, and I'm trying to guillotine him, the first thing he's going to do is bring up his hands like this.
01:22:45.000
His first move is going to be to come between your hands, right?
01:22:49.000
So if you could beat his hand, then you're good.
01:22:53.000
But if you don't beat his hand, then the guillotine is lost.
01:22:57.000
But if he comes up and blocks it like this, and I come around the back of my hand, he's still fucked.
01:23:16.000
Also, too, like the same as like with a rear naked.
01:23:19.000
It's like if you can keep that hand flat, it's easier to slide it up in there than if you got it like this where it's harder to get it underneath the chin.
01:23:28.000
With the guillotine, it's just a lot of people do it with the pretzel grip here.
01:23:35.000
With the Marcelo Garcia variation, it doesn't matter.
01:23:40.000
Their hands are gonna come up, they think they're safe, but we're going behind our own hand.
01:23:45.000
So that's when Marcelo was fucking people up with that on the daily.
01:23:51.000
Black belts were going, what the What the fuck is going on?
01:23:53.000
I'm defending the guillotine and I'm still tapping.
01:24:41.000
He's talking about an old story with Jimmy Manilow to the rest of the crowd.
01:24:44.000
Remember that time we saw each other in the bar with a gold necklace on?
01:25:04.000
I like how he bounced back from that Marlon Marais fight, too.
01:25:20.000
Dude, we need to have a fight companion for that motherfucker.
01:25:44.000
Callan's hustling right now, getting ready to do his special, right?
01:25:55.000
Your boy, yeah, hopefully he gets picked up by Netflix or Showtime.
01:26:17.000
Because Netflix, some of the references he has, they're like, you can't say this.
01:26:34.000
Next Friday I'm in San Francisco with Sam Tripoli.
01:26:53.000
I mean, if I didn't have that spot in San Francisco, I'd be cornering Ben.
01:27:06.000
I'm like below an open-miker, you know what I mean?
01:27:12.000
The show we did Friday night in the Bellroom, that was the most fun I've ever had, man.
01:27:24.000
Because I know you guys are calling it tinfoil hat conspiracy.
01:27:32.000
There's a lot of conspiracy theory comedy in there, but it's not like 100%.
01:27:46.000
At the end, we do a question and answer type of like a mini podcast thing.
01:27:51.000
Friday night at the belly room was so much fun, man.
01:27:58.000
Because if your jokes are like fat, if they have too much extra words in them, if they're too fake, if they come off corny, that room just highlights it.
01:28:07.000
I always like to run my material in that room before I do anything big.
01:28:27.000
When I opened for Joey, I love it because it's probably 90% Latin.
01:28:37.000
There's no conspiracy theories going on with those crowds.
01:28:56.000
I did Bert Kreischer's podcast last week, and he said that...
01:29:03.000
Because of you, he said that he was telling you that Russian mafia story and then you said you should do it on stage and then he did it and it blew up, that Russian mob story.
01:29:12.000
And then I remembered, I go, you know what, Joe told me to do that bleeding asshole story on stage.
01:29:18.000
I had a problem with blood coming out of my ass.
01:29:26.000
My first reaction was like, fuck, no, I'm not gonna talk about that on stage.
01:29:36.000
It's funny how, like, you say that, like, oh, you should do that bleeding asshole story, and people are listening, like, what the fuck is wrong with these guys?
01:29:43.000
It's not just a matter of, like, how you were telling me the story, and when you were telling me the story, I was cracking up.
01:29:49.000
I mean, I am not a comedy snob by any stretch of the imagination.
01:29:55.000
And if it happens to be funny for X, Y, or Z reason, I don't care.
01:30:03.000
I don't believe that there's certain subjects that should be off limits.
01:30:08.000
It's just a matter of how you approach the subject.
01:30:12.000
The problem is a lot of subjects are tainted because a lot of people do bad comedy that's like cheap and easy and they use those subjects instead of because the subjects are interesting and they have like a real valid point they use those subjects because they know it's gonna get a cheap laugh like a cheap fart joke or a cheap you know whatever kind of joke there's there's a bunch of cheap jokes but then there's like A real-life situation where you have to shit your pants.
01:30:42.000
Ari Shafir had a fucking hilarious joke about there was a bridge across in Sydney.
01:30:53.000
You walk across it and he was halfway across the bridge and he had to shit his pants.
01:30:58.000
And he told this story and he had an agent at the time told him, That's a shit joke.
01:31:05.000
And Ari looked at him and he goes, yeah, we're not gonna work together anymore.
01:31:13.000
I go, that guy told you to stop doing that bit?
01:31:20.000
But it was a real story where he had to shit his pants, and he was a mile into it, and it was killing.
01:31:27.000
And his stupid-ass agent was like, you know, that's a shit joke.
01:31:33.000
Because he hears when people are talking about just, like, cheap...
01:31:37.000
Why would you listen to an Asian on your material?
01:31:47.000
He didn't, but when, look, there's two stages of your career, right?
01:31:51.000
There's a stage where other people try to tell you what to do.
01:31:54.000
They're like, what you need to do is wear a tie.
01:32:01.000
And then there's a stage where they just leave you the fuck alone.
01:32:04.000
Ari is now in that leave you the fuck alone stage.
01:32:08.000
When you're successful, you can say what you want to do.
01:32:10.000
But a few years back, he was in that you might make it, you might fall apart stage in an agent's eyes.
01:32:16.000
Like agents look at you and they go, man, I don't know, Eddie, you might be able to make it, but you're going to have to change some things.
01:32:28.000
And they get it in their head that they know how to fix your act.
01:32:45.000
But he's my favorite example of a dude who got money, got some fame and some wealth and got some success and just said, fuck you.
01:32:55.000
Yeah, Bert was saying touring-wise, he was taking some time off.
01:33:02.000
He just needs a certain minimum and that's all he cares about.
01:33:06.000
He made his monthly nut, or his yearly nut, he said, in the first couple weeks of the year.
01:33:10.000
He just did a bunch of theaters and some good dates.
01:33:33.000
He just really enjoys going to different cultures.
01:33:42.000
Staying in places where, like, 18-year-old backpackers go.
01:33:55.000
I mean, I think it's rarely dangerous, but I think any kind of travel...
01:33:59.000
I mean, I'm talking about traveling to a bar in, you know, Canoga Park could be dangerous.
01:34:05.000
You know, you hear about it in a story, Brendan shop, Joe Rogan go to a bar in Canoga, Joe gets stabbed by some crazy person.
01:34:20.000
Most of those hostels are just college kids that are just traveling abroad and looking to see the world.
01:34:25.000
I've always been scared of hostels when my brother stayed in Europe and said he woke up someone sucking on his toes.
01:34:36.000
I was scared of it because of those horror movies.
01:34:51.000
How easy is it to lure those 18-year-old backpackers that are going across Europe?
01:35:00.000
Dude, all you gotta do is get hot chicks, point out the dudes, the hot chicks would drag them into some shit, put some drugs into their drinks, and boom.
01:35:08.000
A lot of work on fucking two 50-year-olds and a 35-year-old, a hot chick.
01:35:14.000
Yeah, forget about when you're 20. When you're 20, you fuck a warm hole in the wall.
01:35:32.000
But I think for a lot of those people that travel like that and live like that, it's got to be very hard to settle down.
01:35:37.000
Once you get used to just traveling and doing drugs and partying places and...
01:35:43.000
I feel like that movie doesn't end well for those people.
01:35:52.000
I mean, maybe start a pottery business or some shit.
01:36:06.000
Yeah, they go down, like, to Brazil or somewhere.
01:36:11.000
It was like some remote location in the jungle.
01:36:16.000
The trailer, I was like, oh shit, this makes me sick.
01:36:18.000
Yeah, what's that picture of the head in the upper left-hand corner?
01:36:21.000
There's some crazy shit that happens in the movie.
01:36:26.000
Man, don't you think, like, Brazil would be pissed?
01:36:29.000
Like, dude, tourism is down 8,000% because of these fucking movies.
01:36:36.000
Still, maybe Brazil's like, slow the fuck down with these goddamn movies.
01:36:40.000
They do have the biggest rainforest in the world.
01:36:51.000
I couldn't believe when he was talking about all those Nazis.
01:37:03.000
You did the greatest promo ever for your Discovering History Channel show.
01:37:07.000
I love Tim, but I don't watch that much TV with that stuff.
01:37:16.000
I don't know, but hundreds of thousands of people.
01:37:18.000
And you go to the village, this is in Argentina, and it's all German.
01:37:21.000
The architecture, we go into their house, it's all fucking German.
01:37:27.000
They wear lederhosen, they're drinking giant steins of beer.
01:37:33.000
How about he goes, you know what built that land?
01:37:36.000
Jews fucking, their cavity fillings, their wedding rings.
01:37:43.000
And then when he's talking about how they would torture kids, I stopped listening after that.
01:37:49.000
Well, he was talking about how Mengele and a lot of the SS soldiers went to Argentina and continued a lot of their torture experiments, and that they had met some of the people that had been tortured by these SS guys.
01:38:07.000
Set them on fire, just the worst shit you can imagine.
01:38:11.000
I went to Argentina like 10 years ago, and I swear, I swear to God, I've never been to a country with so many beautiful women.
01:38:22.000
You see like 10 at a time, 13, they're like everywhere.
01:38:27.000
And you would think it would be easy to pick them up, but it's super hard because they have no faith in men.
01:38:35.000
Because the men there, like prostitution is legal.
01:38:38.000
They know that there's no reason for a guy to get committed.
01:38:46.000
They hang out with each other and they just cock block each other.
01:38:49.000
They hang out with each other and cock block each other.
01:39:03.000
And Tim said he'd go there and they're so proud of their Nazi grandfather and stuff like that.
01:39:19.000
Yeah, Joe asked him, he goes, if you had to decide right now, did Hitler die in that building like history tells you?
01:39:55.000
I cried because I thought he was going to die one time.
01:39:58.000
Yeah, doesn't he have a crazy show where he tries to kill himself?
01:40:23.000
But yeah, and then he also has Hunting Hitler on History Channel.
01:40:30.000
And then he's still serving, doing secret missions and killing people on the side.
01:40:34.000
His side chick's killing ISIS. That's what he does.
01:40:38.000
He's still active special forces, going on projects and shit, killing people.
01:41:24.000
I've been doing Live Fire and the Kids for over three years.
01:41:29.000
For some reason, I thought you were doing stand-up for a year.
01:41:41.000
You may be the fastest rising comedian of all time, right?
01:41:46.000
Like with zero stand-up experience and then all of a sudden you do stand-up and now you're fucking playing all over the world making loot, right?
01:42:02.000
Generally, you grind for about 10 years until you pop.
01:42:09.000
But I think you can do the Charlie Sheen route where if you have some sort of fall and you do shows and people are like, this sucks, and it'll come back.
01:42:15.000
I think the sign of it is that you can come back if you sell tickets to places you've been before.
01:42:32.000
I was hanging out with Joe in the comedy scene for many, many years.
01:42:37.000
I've seen comedians just eat shit, crash, come and go, never make it.
01:42:44.000
Same guys from 15 years ago still trying to make it.
01:42:51.000
Sam was telling me you were killing it the other night.
01:43:02.000
So I decided, you know what, unless you're really good at something, you shouldn't be smoking weed and doing it.
01:43:09.000
And until you're super confident and you got your shit down, don't smoke weed.
01:43:15.000
So I decided to try it out, like, not smoke weed.
01:43:45.000
Then we do, Saturday, we do Sacramento, The Punchline.
01:43:49.000
So that's a smaller, I think that's like 150, 200, something like that.
01:43:56.000
Until I get my shit together, I'm going to go on stage clear-eyed.
01:44:03.000
And then later, once I feel super confident in my material...
01:44:17.000
I have new ideas, but they need to be organized more and fleshed out.
01:44:38.000
At first I was writing everything out and then Joey told me, he goes, dude, you're at your best when you don't write it out and you just go off the cuff.
01:44:48.000
So Joey told me, just have ideas but don't write anything out and just go out there and try it.
01:44:57.000
You know Friday, I just had powerpoints and a couple lines like okay This line is kind of funny and that line's kind of funny and then I just went off and just kind of just Went for it.
01:45:10.000
I just doing ice house last night with Sam said it went good.
01:45:13.000
Oh cool cool Do you guys write your material out?
01:45:17.000
Because hanging out with you for fucking 20 years in the comedy clubs, you always stress.
01:45:28.000
And Joey told me, he goes, right now, maybe you shouldn't write shit out.
01:45:43.000
And those are two of the best shows I've done with Joey.
01:45:48.000
Instead of write everything out, maybe write out the funny, you know what I mean?
01:45:55.000
Are you repeating the same set over or are you doing new sets every time?
01:46:00.000
The bullet points are like, say if you had a bid on building a table, whatever.
01:46:05.000
It's the bullet points, the funny parts you have memorized.
01:46:11.000
And then the way you set it up, you're going to have to kind of...
01:46:16.000
Because if you start memorizing shit, it takes away from...
01:46:27.000
Even though you have a structure, you can play with it.
01:46:29.000
The one thing that I've learned, for me, anyways...
01:46:36.000
For me, like the latest Chappelle, when he tells a story and he's telling you like a 10-minute story of how shit went down, to me that's the funniest shit.
01:46:51.000
And you see how real it is when he's describing it.
01:46:54.000
Instead of trying to make up a joke and trying to find funny, stick to funny stories.
01:46:59.000
And then from there you could kind of, you know.
01:47:03.000
You know Joey's shooting him on a Monday night in Vegas.
01:47:35.000
But when you do those 30 minutes, because I'm used to dealing with you.
01:47:38.000
I'm like, oh, and you're like, I'm going to shoot it here.
01:47:51.000
Brendan's selling out cobs in San Francisco by himself.
01:48:04.000
I told him he's probably one of the fastest rising comics coming from never doing stand-up.
01:48:16.000
From never doing stand-up to selling out theaters in two years.
01:48:25.000
What I tell other young comics, I say, pay attention to him, because this is what happens when a person takes pro-athlete type of discipline and applies it to stand-up.
01:48:38.000
That work ethic and discipline, that's everything, man.
01:48:41.000
It changes the whole game because a lot of comics are funny, but they're fucking lazy.
01:48:47.000
That's why you're dealing with guys who do the same material year after year after year and they never do specials.
01:48:53.000
There's a bunch of those guys that are really talented guys.
01:48:56.000
They never bother to record anything because they don't want to have to write.
01:49:04.000
I see these other comedians who maybe aren't doing it, but like, Don't you see the guys like Rogan and Burr and D'Elia?
01:49:22.000
It's like, you look at GSP, it's like, he's doing this and this.
01:49:30.000
You get scared, and then you finally get some tools, right?
01:49:34.000
Like, you put together an act, and you're, like, before you're ready to film a special, The idea is that your act is killing, right?
01:49:40.000
So if your act is killing, you've got it molded and honed.
01:49:48.000
But if you don't do that, you don't keep getting better.
01:49:52.000
One thing that I've learned, even though there's a lot of fear in letting go of that old material, you always write new, better material.
01:50:03.000
For me, letting go of that Bruce Jenner bit, God, that was so hard.
01:50:11.000
But I couldn't do that if my life depended on it right now.
01:50:18.000
But when you get to a point when you get a bit so tight and so finely tuned, that's when you gotta let it go.
01:50:27.000
And I've got some shit now that's killing harder than that bit.
01:50:31.000
But when I first started doing, you know, a year ago, a year plus ago, when I first released that Netflix special, and then I went right into writing new material and doing new material, it was all on shaky legs, man.
01:50:43.000
And a lot of people don't like that shaky legs feeling.
01:50:49.000
And that's what makes you grow and continue to get better.
01:50:52.000
But you know one of the things that helps me a lot?
01:51:03.000
Because people yell, like, someone look at you and go, uh, hurricanes!
01:51:11.000
And every now and then you'll say something and it's like, ah!
01:51:18.000
So everyone's pretty loosey-goosey, and they'll yell, like, strippers!
01:51:41.000
But, yeah, I've been doing that show for years.
01:51:44.000
And I told Jeremiah, you were telling me how you got bits from it.
01:51:51.000
Like, if you're in the training room, you know how this is.
01:51:54.000
There's one guy who's fucking, he's really good.
01:51:58.000
You don't mean to avoid him because it's going to be the toughest round.
01:52:02.000
That's how I was with Jeremiah on Stamp on the Spot.
01:52:07.000
I know what I want to do here, and I can't have fun with that.
01:52:20.000
And then I told him, like, hey, next time you ask me to do it, no, I'm lying to you.
01:52:39.000
I'm saying I think it's this Tuesday, by the way.
01:52:43.000
I thought he said, because I was trying to do three spots in a night, and I go, hey, you have to stand up in the spot.
01:52:48.000
Because I went Lafracture Comedy Store, and I was trying to get another spot.
01:52:52.000
Honestly, I think he just did it, and I was out of town.
01:53:13.000
Yeah, it's packed, and again, the crowd knows what's going on.
01:53:17.000
You would do that question and answer, and there was nothing anybody could have yelled out that you couldn't tie into some past bit.
01:53:29.000
The stand up on the spot thing is better because it's not that.
01:53:40.000
Some people have done it and done their act too.
01:53:52.000
So I did my show, and then, you know, Boston, it was late, and, you know, the dudes were drunk.
01:53:57.000
One guy kept, like, heckling Joe, and Joe just fucking went nuclear on the guy.
01:54:03.000
I was like, typically isn't how my fan questions go, but fucking...
01:54:17.000
Well, he was just trying so hard to get attention.
01:54:22.000
I've witnessed many, many people getting torched by Joe.
01:54:31.000
He doesn't want to release until the guy, it's clear, 100% he deserves it.
01:54:37.000
So a guy will yell and he's like, calm down, everything.
01:54:53.000
I saw Dane Cook go hard on these two girls in the front row.
01:55:03.000
And he's like, honey, he's trying to get through a story.
01:55:23.000
There's a lot of fucking heckling at the Comedy Store lately.
01:55:26.000
A lot of people want to become a part of the show.
01:55:33.000
Oh, there's two girls in the front row the other night just drunk and sloppy and talking really loud.
01:55:40.000
You know, like you're on stage and you hear them and you try to ignore them, but then you see the rest of the crowd going like this.
01:55:56.000
The way I got good at heckling, at hecklers, one of the big ways is there was no crowd control at the store.
01:56:04.000
Because in the old days when I used to go there, the fucking comedians were all doormen and security.
01:56:14.000
Now they have like legit security, like big guys that take care of everything.
01:56:25.000
Like, about three years ago, when it really took off, three, four years ago, that's when they go, okay, look, this place is sold out every fucking night, and then a guy got murdered there.
01:56:36.000
Yeah, a guy got shot to death on the front porch.
01:56:42.000
Some guy did something to somebody, and apparently the dude who got killed, he had some really dark shit on his Facebook, too.
01:56:54.000
And from then on, they put a super intense security system in there, cameras everywhere, hired real security everywhere, and ramped up the place.
01:57:06.000
That was a big one, too, because people would just stroll into the parking lot.
01:57:09.000
And these drunks, people would be backing up their cars.
01:57:15.000
What do you think is going to happen to the comedy store now that Mitzi's passed away?
01:57:22.000
The thing about it is, it's sold out every night, and it's making a lot of money.
01:57:26.000
Like, if you go to the comedy store on a Tuesday night, you're gonna have a sold-out main room, 400 people.
01:57:38.000
But every night, two shows a night, oftentimes...
01:57:41.000
That's why I was gonna say, two main room shows every night are both sold out now.
01:57:44.000
Thousands and thousands of people funneling into that place as far as like from the beginning of the shows that started at 8 o'clock till 2 o'clock in the morning people are buying drinks.
01:57:59.000
It's making more money now than in the history of the club.
01:58:06.000
It's all within the last three and a half years.
01:58:18.000
I asked them, like, what do you think's the cause of this boom?
01:58:26.000
And then you have all the comics coming through.
01:58:34.000
I mean, you look at the lineup sometimes and you're like, what the fuck?
01:58:37.000
Dude, I ran over because Patton Oswalt's doing stand-up again.
01:58:41.000
I ran over to see him because he's there for the whole week.
01:58:46.000
He's just up at the OR and went, friggin' Tom Papa.
01:58:51.000
I know, but he was in New York for a while when he was starting his stand-up.
01:58:56.000
I was like, I can't wait for him to come back here.
01:59:04.000
Yeah, it went Tom Papa, Patton Oswalt, then Rogan, then Delia.
01:59:09.000
Top five guys at the Comedy Store right now that are regulars.
01:59:52.000
I mean, I was walking by the OR the other night.
01:59:55.000
Walking by the OR the other night, and it was just roars coming out of there.
02:00:00.000
And then you go down the hallway, and there's roars coming out of the main room.
02:00:08.000
You go in there and you just feel it, man, in the walls.
02:00:11.000
And then you go over to the Laugh Factory and it's like an antique shop.
02:00:17.000
When Theo said it, it's like being in an antique shop.
02:00:24.000
When they started filming people, everybody was like, what?
02:00:27.000
They started filming people just putting it up on YouTube.
02:00:29.000
They say they're not doing it anymore, but everybody just lost all faith in that place.
02:00:34.000
I still do spots where I can, but they're not releasing my shit.
02:00:38.000
The fact that they would do that, it's like, you guys are out of your fucking mind.
02:00:51.000
And then when confronted, they're like, well, Tiffany Haddish is making so much money now and it's all because of this.
02:01:01.000
I don't know why he did letting those kids do that and put those things up.
02:01:05.000
But people that had no idea about the stand-up comedy business.
02:01:10.000
Just filming people's sets and putting all their material online.
02:01:13.000
But the way it works is, you know, it's a close committee, so if Joe or whoever, Santino goes, hey, they're filming, don't do it there anymore.
02:01:25.000
I mean, you'll have three sold-out shows not even a half a mile away at the comedy store, and then they're canceling shows.
02:01:40.000
The improv moved that stupid fucking piano off the stage.
02:01:43.000
They put a platform on the side and pushed the piano over to the side.
02:01:46.000
The piano would fuck up the whole show for anybody that was on the right side of the stage.
02:01:51.000
They can't see it, but also the comic didn't have much room.
02:01:58.000
You know, with the Ice House, it's all about they have to have good people to get out to Pasadena.
02:02:02.000
Because the Ice House, they've had sketchy lineups in the past.
02:02:09.000
They'll have, like, real shows that are really funny, but they'll also have, like, some bullshit.
02:02:13.000
And they had, for years, they had some bullshit shows.
02:02:16.000
Which kills your brand, because if you get known as that, where it's, like, the gimmicky bullshit guys, people are going to be like, oh, Friday night, let's just go see who's playing at the Ice House.
02:02:26.000
Yeah, people will go down there and they'll expect to see like a Joey Diaz show and then some whack-ass fucking road guy who does like cruise ships.
02:02:36.000
But is it more for the people that live in that area?
02:02:38.000
Like, I mean, isn't it like a local kind of thing?
02:02:41.000
Yeah, but it's still, if it's a bad show, it's a bad show.
02:02:46.000
Like, they know when I do, I do those Wednesday nights once a month there.
02:02:50.000
And they know if you go down there, I'm going to have killers on that show.
02:02:58.000
I do one Thursday night at the Comedy Store every month, and I do one Wednesday night at the Ice House every month.
02:03:07.000
And the next one at the Comedy Store is June...
02:03:15.000
And just in the green room, like last time it was Tony, Theo, you, me, just hanging out back there.
02:03:27.000
Well, it's just, it's hard to find groups of people that are just...
02:03:39.000
So they're traveling around a lot, fucking around, having a good time, talking shit.
02:03:43.000
And one person to say something, then it's just like...
02:03:53.000
It almost feels like high school with your good friends.
02:03:56.000
Like, you know when you walk into, like, first period and all your boys, like, went to the front?
02:04:01.000
Because one of the things that happens as you get older is you lose all the fun.
02:04:05.000
Because you have responsibilities and you have a job you hate.
02:04:08.000
And you gotta get up in the morning and you're always tired.
02:04:10.000
And this is the world that most people live in.
02:04:16.000
It's all basically people that avoided that rat race and figured out some sneaky way through the system.
02:04:31.000
Especially when high-level comedians go up like yourself.
02:04:35.000
You're going to get an hour of laughs over and over again.
02:04:42.000
Yeah, but if you're a new comic, I'm getting education, too.
02:04:47.000
You're hanging around with those people more often.
02:04:49.000
I can go listen to Theo Vaughn talk about something, then me and Joe talk business, and I'll go watch Patton Oswalt do his set, and then I'll watch Joey Diaz, and then Bill Burr's coming in.
02:04:58.000
And for me, as long as I've been doing comedy, I still love it.
02:05:10.000
And I think it's necessary to, because people get so serious about certain subjects, if someone could just come along and mock it and laugh at it so hard, and then you realize, like, oh, this is fucking ridiculous.
02:05:24.000
What was fascinating to me the other night with Tom Papa, Oswald, and Tony Hinchcliffe, they all had the same premises on their joke, but each opinion was so different.
02:05:39.000
But you just see how everyone's different, but it's the popular subject.
02:06:18.000
I'm not sure, but that was going to be a hell of a fight.
02:06:34.000
Hector Lombard, Kelvin Gaslin, and Johnny Hendricks.
02:06:42.000
Whenever he fights a jiu-jitsu guy, he's screwed.
02:06:44.000
It's his Achilles heel because they take him down and murk him up.
02:06:48.000
His defense is just, you know, but when I say it's his Achilles heel, the very tip of the spare black belts fuck him up.
02:07:00.000
He leg kicked him, dragged him to the ground, and choked the fuck out of him.
02:07:06.000
That other homeboy guy, Inverted Triangle, the bald guy, I forget his name, who's ridiculous at Jiu-Jitsu, Brazilian.
02:07:28.000
He triangled someone from the Mount years ago, and I'll never forget it.
02:07:41.000
Like, you look at one of his arms, like his tricep is non-existent.
02:07:47.000
Yeah, it must have tore and he never got it fixed.
02:07:49.000
Because they tear him ravel up, like a fruit roll up.
02:07:50.000
Yeah, he never got it fixed because he's got a bicep, but then there's nothing behind it.
02:08:08.000
Yeah, he was the first guy to tap Krohn as a black belt.
02:08:15.000
Yeah, see how his left tricep is kind of missing?
02:09:01.000
About the referee separating them when Damian Maia had his back.
02:09:15.000
Yeah, they're getting too crazy with the stand-ups.
02:09:24.000
You got a guy who's a strangulation expert that finally gets to clinch on a world-class wrestler.
02:09:32.000
And you also have to think Maya took this fight with zero camp.
02:10:03.000
That's about as long as it gets for 170. Great cardio, long.
02:10:32.000
Because I was one of the coaches on Ultimate Fighter 14. He came off that season.
02:10:36.000
Even then, they're like, dude, look at the cardio on Neil.
02:10:43.000
He lived with Nate Markhart when he first came to Denver.
02:10:46.000
Nate trained nonstop, so he just kind of took on that role.
02:11:07.000
He's trying to become a priest or something like that.
02:11:20.000
His KO of Tyron Woodley for the Strikeforce Welterweight Champ is one of the all-time highlight real KOs.
02:11:37.000
He's a guy that was real active and real proficient before anybody knew anything about MMA. He started when he was 17. Joey, he's called me a couple times.
02:12:05.000
He's talking about Mackenzie Dern's ass last night again.
02:12:13.000
You think she's just eating all the fucking time?
02:13:00.000
I ain't got time to watch people kick each other in the fucking head today.
02:13:19.000
We'll see you one day this week on the show to discuss your comedy career as a fucking...
02:14:15.000
And I'm doing a few spots tonight to let these motherfuckers know who's running things.
02:14:21.000
Enjoy fucking Till against Wonderboy and my man against the other guy.
02:15:11.000
If you show up in the helicopter, I can't deny you.
02:15:14.000
We might have to get in the Batmobile and go down there and represent.
02:15:18.000
If you show up in the Trump Tower copter, then you're in no danger.
02:15:21.000
You just walk in and take the mic and tell people what time it is.
02:15:28.000
I can't wait for people to see that special, Joey.
02:15:35.000
I didn't know the meaning of this since I listened to you and the tapings and the trying shit.
02:15:40.000
And now I'm just doing 28 minute sets all week.
02:15:46.000
I gotta get the beginning more jazzed up because I gotta make them watch.
02:15:50.000
So I gotta go out there like a fucking meteor, you understand me?
02:15:53.000
I gotta go out there and hold them till like 14 minutes and let them...
02:15:58.000
I'm gonna go out there and fucking just go off for about 14, then we go to our different corners, and then I come on and I pick my shots.
02:16:09.000
Pick my fucking shots like when fucking Eddie's guy fought that dude and he fucked the really good striker.
02:16:16.000
I gotta pick my shots in the second round and then the third round go out there and just fucking four point combinations ending with leg kicks to tear down the knee until you can't take it no more.
02:16:31.000
I'm breaking it down to three rounds, Joe Rogan.
02:16:59.000
The second round, I'm just picking my shots like your guy against Edson Barboza.
02:17:13.000
And then the third round, I come out like fucking that black dude in the 70s that fought when they gave him the bottle filled with cocaine milk.
02:17:48.000
What the fuck do you think you're dealing with?
02:17:50.000
In the third round, we come out like fucking Aaron Pryor.
02:18:11.000
Panama Lewis gave the bottle with the original shit.
02:18:22.000
And then Aaron Pryor came out just throwing bombs and fucked Alexis Arguello up.
02:19:44.000
I'm like, well, there's two to have him right now.
02:19:47.000
Well, it's kind of amazing that he's even top ten with one win over a big guy.
02:19:53.000
Yeah, it's insane that I'm picking him to win the fight.
02:20:00.000
Do you think ESPN? Remember, that's a Fox thing.
02:20:09.000
They want rankings because they didn't think the public could understand who's who without the rankings.
02:20:15.000
They're too disagreed upon by high-level people.
02:20:19.000
No matter how you do it, you can never get it right, so you might as well just try it and just let it fly.
02:20:26.000
It's fighters going, wait, he's six, but I'm five.
02:20:37.000
If you decline a fight, they'll never ask you again.
02:20:47.000
Darren Till's got those old school Thai tattoos on his back.
02:21:07.000
They probably don't have the best tattoo artist.
02:21:14.000
You think there's a guy out there with a tattoo of a chick that's like a one-night stand, like one crazy night?
02:21:36.000
So, um, that's a commitment right there, right?
02:21:43.000
Look, I'll tattoo you on my arm for life, but I ain't getting married, man.
02:22:04.000
Otherwise this place would be fucking even on more fire.
02:22:34.000
People would be like, get the fuck out of here.
02:22:43.000
Well, I was sitting around thinking about nicknames.
02:22:48.000
It says that Dan Hardy gave him the nickname of the gorilla.
02:22:54.000
Well, this says he officially accepted it as of January 20th.
02:23:03.000
Well, I didn't know Dan Hart was like, oh, I just like to refer to him as the gorilla, and then three days ago he rode with it.
02:23:18.000
How long does a man have to keep a nickname before it's a legit nickname?
02:23:37.000
We know as a martial arts term everyone else, like the sidekick?
02:23:44.000
If you know the real meaning to the dentist, it sounds, you know.
02:23:48.000
The dentist also isn't getting his dick sucked in the bar.
02:23:51.000
See, the dentist is such an obscure nickname, I think you gotta leave Josh Near alone.
02:24:00.000
But didn't they call Eve Edwards the dentist at one point in time?
02:24:11.000
Aaron Reilly was one of those tough, tough journeymen.
02:24:15.000
Yeah, remember when Robbie Lawler made his UFC debut against Aaron Reilly and just beat the brakes off of him?
02:24:22.000
That's another super impressive performance by Rafael Dos Anjos, right?
02:24:32.000
He's like one of the best examples of a guy who was holding himself back by staying in a lower weight class.
02:24:44.000
I ran into him in between fights when he was fighting 55, and he was 200 pounds.
02:24:50.000
And then he started declining a little bit because the weight cut was fucked, and then he went to 70. Now he's a nightmare.
02:25:31.000
No one's got a bigger badonkadonk than Woodley.
02:25:34.000
When he walks in, the fucking thighs on that guy is an ass.
02:25:47.000
Dude, anytime I fill out some medical shit and they say fucking hi, I say 5'9, motherfucker.
02:25:56.000
It's hard to tell because I haven't been able to train because of my knee and my shoulder.
02:26:19.000
But I finally got a second opinion yesterday, and they told me, man, unless it's hurting really bad, just hold off on it.
02:26:40.000
I just had knee surgery and then shoulder surgery.
02:26:44.000
I'm going to try to rehab it with shoulder rehab exercises.
02:26:50.000
And if that doesn't work, then I'll have surgery.
02:26:52.000
But I decided I'm not going to have surgery on my shoulder.
02:26:56.000
Dude, they're doing some crazy shit down in Panama.
02:27:01.000
And you know, when Mel Gibson was on your podcast...
02:27:10.000
Is there a possibility that he was like, you know, he has some financial interest in the company or something?
02:27:24.000
But every time you hear about stem cells, there's a new way and they do it different.
02:27:29.000
And now they're taking stem cells from here instead of there.
02:27:32.000
And it's like, dude, figure that shit out first.
02:27:36.000
They're all good, but they keep getting better at it.
02:27:38.000
But talk to TJ, because TJ had some raving things to say about Panama.
02:28:07.000
It's very rare you have no idea what's going to happen in the fight.
02:28:31.000
Both real loose, but more Muay Thai base with Till.
02:28:36.000
The thing about Wonderboy is he's all light on the toes.
02:28:50.000
Did you see that video Till put out of him sparring, just beating the shit out of some guy?
02:28:56.000
That guy didn't look that good, but he knocked him out.
02:29:02.000
Yeah, and then he posted some of him getting hit, too, after that, because he said people were calling him a bully.
02:29:08.000
That I don't like, because that means he's reading the comments, and then he's reacting to those comments, which means people can fuck with his head.
02:29:14.000
If you're a young fighter, it's going to be tough, man, to navigate through.
02:29:17.000
Well, those comments, you've got to leave them alone.
02:29:23.000
You know, a pool of thousands and thousands of people, and who knows who they are or what their agenda is.
02:29:30.000
Yeah, but also a lot of those people aren't happy for your success.
02:29:33.000
Like, they're miserable in their life, so they come at you.
02:29:36.000
Especially a guy like Till who's on the rise, you know?
02:29:42.000
UFC might want to hire someone to help these younger guys with that.
02:29:45.000
Well, just give them a little psychological counseling on how to handle it.
02:29:51.000
He's also going to close the distance and lend that left hand over the top.
02:29:58.000
Well, this is the perfect kind of style for him, too.
02:30:03.000
Yeah, I have to imagine that's why he took the fight just stylistically.
02:30:07.000
He's like, yeah, big guy, aggressive, let's do it.
02:30:19.000
Yeah, he landed that leg kick, but he was a little off balance.
02:30:23.000
Well, Darren made a shift as he was going to launch that leg kick, and he put him in a weird position where he was off balance.
02:30:32.000
I mean, there's some good adjustments going on here.
02:30:38.000
He likes that slide with the right hand forward and then looked at...
02:30:48.000
Wonderboy hasn't had a finish in a while last time.
02:30:57.000
You're talking about a dude who was like 57-0 as a kickboxer.
02:31:03.000
As far as high-level striking, I can't remember the last time two strikers were matched up this well.
02:31:12.000
Yeah, who knows what's going to happen in this fight.
02:31:34.000
It's hard to find a training partner who's going to emulate Wonderboy, man.
02:31:38.000
You don't really get a real look at it until you're...
02:31:45.000
I think he's trying to frustrate Till, so Till jumps in and makes a mistake.
02:32:03.000
Yeah, I think for one of the ways, these first two rounds, he's trying to frustrate Till.
02:32:36.000
Unless there's a couple different time zones in the UK. I thought it was just one.
02:32:40.000
They might not have daylight savings time or something.
02:32:55.000
Oh, it's nice when you gain it for like two days.
02:33:30.000
Dude, the new Guardians of the Galaxy at Disney is pretty sick.
02:33:42.000
The Simpsons ride is one of my favorite rides ever.
02:33:45.000
You know what's the best ride ever, all time, hands down?
02:33:49.000
Flights of Passage Avatar ride in Disney World in Orlando.
02:33:59.000
You go in, you sit on this bike, you're riding a dragon.
02:34:03.000
Riding one of those things through the fucking jungle.
02:34:10.000
There's the thing at Disneyland called Soaring Over the World.
02:34:16.000
Giant screen and you're flying like over India and over Everest.
02:34:39.000
And that castle, that Harry Potter castle that they build?
02:34:50.000
I know, Wonderboy is such a good counterfighter.
02:34:55.000
Oh, gotta get off the fucking fence, Wonderboy.
02:35:02.000
So that first round, you gotta give it to Wonderboy, right?
02:35:17.000
He's the hometown kid, and the judges look at octagon control.
02:35:21.000
So it's not necessarily you could give it to Wonderboy.
02:35:24.000
But Darren Till, I don't think, landed anything.
02:35:36.000
They always ask a question after they say something.
02:35:48.000
This fight's about to get loose in the third round, I feel like.
02:36:18.000
He hasn't really knocked you off your socks before that Cowboy fight.
02:36:35.000
Well, this is like, again, stylistically, such a great fight.
02:36:39.000
Because this is the style that Wonderboy really does like.
02:36:46.000
And in terms of high-level technique, both these guys are really good.
02:36:52.000
Oh, Till keeps throwing that front leg sidekick to the front leg.
02:37:32.000
Liverpool's definitely a different accent, too.
02:37:43.000
Wonder Boy loves to do that, like, switch stance.
02:37:48.000
But it's so hard to figure out what the fuck he's going to do because he switches stances while he does it sometimes.
02:37:59.000
Till's just trying to figure out and pin him down, but, man, it's not there.
02:38:08.000
But Till's doing a good job of not giving him much space where the cage is.
02:38:12.000
This is not happening in the center of the cage as much as it's happening.
02:38:18.000
What if Till's going to feel any pressure to get a finish?
02:38:20.000
Because Till is absolutely controlling the center of the cage.
02:38:26.000
And you know that wins rounds for these judges.
02:38:39.000
They say, you know, he's a superstar in Liverpool.
02:38:49.000
If he had a big knockout here, it'd be the face.
02:38:50.000
Because Bisping obviously is, but he's retired.
02:39:03.000
Well, why don't they give him high-level fights?
02:39:13.000
And that was like his first, like, they weren't feeding him, you know?
02:39:27.000
I really like Page Daily because they don't like each other.
02:39:32.000
Shout out to all the 10th Planet schools in the UK. We got like eight now.
02:39:37.000
London, Birmingham, Bramberry, Redditch, Darlington.
02:40:06.000
Yeah, one of them really made his knee buckle, man.
02:40:26.000
You know, there's a great karate match that I watched.
02:40:28.000
I mean, I don't know how many times they fought, but they fought point fighting.
02:40:33.000
Way back in the day, Raymond Daniels and Michael Venom Page fought each other in point fighting.
02:40:39.000
Now Raymond Daniels is the glory champion and Michael Venom Page is coming up in Bellator.
02:40:46.000
Or he's a Bellator champion now, Raymond Daniels, right?
02:41:17.000
He still hasn't landed anything, though, except for those sidekicks to the knee.
02:41:38.000
Well, the whole thing with Wonderboy is just...
02:41:43.000
And so far, Till hasn't really made any mistakes, but Wonderboy's found a few openings, but there's never been like one big bum rush where he left a gap and Wonderboy could drop a ball on him.
02:41:58.000
But they did show the replay, the knee buckling of Wonderboy.
02:42:17.000
It would be nice if Wonderboy was a little more aggressive though.
02:42:38.000
But the thing is, Till is so high level as well that it's hard for this style to even find its home, you know?
02:42:51.000
How about that Machida front kick to Vitor's face?
02:42:56.000
The man signed off fight and went, you know what?
02:43:04.000
And then just walks off, bends down, starts praying.
02:43:15.000
You think Vitor just juices with every Brazilian drug ever?
02:43:35.000
And he's the only guy from the early days still fighting.
02:43:40.000
I mean, you could say the same thing for Dan Henderson, but he's officially retired.
02:43:49.000
Dan Henderson was around in 98, so it wasn't much longer afterwards.
02:44:14.000
When Wonderboy gets big, it's usually his legs, man.
02:44:17.000
I mean, his hands are dangerous, but his power is in those fucking legs.
02:44:46.000
But he did touch him at the very end with that round kick to the face.
02:44:49.000
He might be fine in an opening for that one-two blitz.
02:44:56.000
I have a hard time believing these judges don't have at 3-0.
02:45:04.000
Well, it depends on who the judges are, too, right?
02:45:05.000
Are they American judges or the English judges?
02:45:30.000
Mark Goddard's more worried about an eye poke than anybody.
02:46:16.000
I wish he would have poked that in the first round.
02:46:30.000
I'd talk so much shit on that fight if it's just three rounds and it ended there.
02:46:38.000
That dude has a prominent forehead cheekbone situation going on.
02:46:43.000
Yeah, I think Genghis Khan got a little bit of that in him, didn't he?
02:46:47.000
He's definitely got some fucking ancient man in him.
02:47:02.000
Yeah, he went with it, but it caught him at the end of it for sure.
02:47:08.000
This is his style, you know, he's so efficient at doing that.
02:47:11.000
Oh, both these guys could do this for 10 rounds.
02:47:17.000
God, this is a fight that is a great argument for the five-round fight for high-level fights.
02:47:26.000
I mean, we would feel so bad if we were leaving here and that was it.
02:47:32.000
Like, what are the stats on punches and kicks landed?
02:47:37.000
Yeah, unless you're super into MMA, you'd be so disappointed.
02:47:43.000
Dang, Teal better watch his P's and Q's, though.
02:47:49.000
But juice is worth the squeeze if you can get a knockdown.
02:48:10.000
Yeah, because, yeah, Darren Till's never been five rounds, has he?
02:48:14.000
He hasn't, especially in the UFC. Well, first time.
02:48:18.000
Because his main event against Cowboy, obviously he starts Cowboy, so he hasn't.
02:48:26.000
And what about outside of the UFC? How many fights in Brazil?
02:48:41.000
When he fought in Brazil, he spoke Portuguese to the crowd.
02:48:46.000
Yeah, I watched one of his older fights where he stopped this guy, and he spoke Portuguese to the crowd after the fight.
02:48:59.000
They had to get out of Liverpool because I guess there was a little tox up for him.
02:49:15.000
And his coach told him, hey, you gotta get out of here, man.
02:49:18.000
They need to bend knives in the UK. Enough's enough.
02:49:25.000
Do you know the London mayor actually said that?
02:49:28.000
If you get caught with a knife, you'll be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
02:49:35.000
The princess's brother-in-law, her brother, got caught with one when he went over there for the royal wedding last week.
02:49:43.000
Yeah, he said he took one because Trump said that you should take one with him.
02:50:08.000
Wonderboy looking for that left hand over the top!
02:50:15.000
It's going to be a tough fucking fight to judge, man.
02:50:31.000
Interesting that Till's the one holding onto him here.
02:50:42.000
If you're one of them, that's exactly what he wanted.
02:50:44.000
That leg's kind of fucked up, that lead leg, right leg.
02:51:00.000
I really haven't noticed him getting hit that much.
02:51:10.000
I don't really remember him kicking him that hard.
02:51:12.000
It must have been when he was standing southpaw.
02:51:23.000
I mean, his footwork's just stupid, so Darren Till can't really get a read on him.
02:51:31.000
Yeah, nothing big has happened where you go, oh, that guy definitely is in control of the fight.
02:51:36.000
If someone just knocks someone down, you've got the fight.
02:51:52.000
All right, which I did get on the edge of my seat, but if you're just a regular fan, come on, man.
02:52:00.000
I tell you what, who's going to get more shit is Wonderboy because of his Woodley fights, which is obviously not his fault.
02:52:07.000
I'm just saying the public's going to give him shit.
02:52:15.000
When you come after him, you run into the wood chipper.
02:52:17.000
But the thing is, he's not winning when he does this...
02:52:20.000
But he didn't win against Woodley when he did this, for sure.
02:52:24.000
Yeah, he's obviously got number one for a reason.
02:52:35.000
Yeah, he's wobbling a little on the back to his corner.
02:52:46.000
Because again, if it stopped right here, I'd be bummed out.
02:52:59.000
And then one judge is like, we don't want to make it too obvious, and then give one to Wonderboy.
02:53:14.000
You could maybe go two to two, but I'd say Till's winning this fight.
02:53:21.000
Can I get some goddamn Compustrike numbers, Fox?
02:53:43.000
I might have met him, but everybody seems to think he's a really good guy.
02:53:59.000
Till's super aggressive here coming out from the fifth.
02:54:10.000
Okay, they're saying Darren Till's corner is very urgent.
02:54:23.000
Yeah, I think if I would count up all the different strikes, I think...
02:54:52.000
Bush Townsend, you'd think would make for a great roll.
02:55:07.000
No one's really going balls to the wall, are they?
02:55:14.000
Darren Till would go balls to the walls, but Wonderboy keeps moving.
02:55:26.000
He threw a shitty wheel kick and then shook his head and then they touched gloves.
02:55:34.000
Those two are a little too friendly for my liking.
02:55:35.000
He's looking to set up his wheel kick with his left leg.
02:56:06.000
He's looking for that low fake and then go with the high round kick off the front leg.
02:56:13.000
I'd like to know how many miles they've ran this goddamn fight.
02:56:17.000
You kind of give it to them for sticking to their foot.
02:56:25.000
But if you're not balls deep into fighting, you're not happy with this fight.
02:56:56.000
We'd have to look at it in the replay, but look how you hurt him.
02:57:29.000
But this is like Wonderboy when he fought Tyron Woodley too, right?
02:57:41.000
You know shit ain't exciting when someone's shooting for a takedown out of these two.
02:58:03.000
I just think he doesn't want to get tag coming in.
02:58:15.000
There's been a lot of footwork, though, so you might be a little...
02:58:17.000
Well, you've got to remember, Till did have a real hard time cutting that weight.
02:58:37.000
Yeah, there's no way to give Wonderboy the fight after that.
02:58:58.000
So where would you rank Till after that lackluster performance?
02:59:24.000
Here's that front leg sidekick that wobbled his knee.
02:59:29.000
God damn it, Metro PCS. Why would they do that?
02:59:31.000
Why would they have that right where you need to see?
02:59:34.000
If you're my friend of Metro PCS, we are not friends anymore.
02:59:40.000
Well, no, I get angry because the cricket of wireless cell phones now.
03:00:02.000
That's why, like, if you have 49 other strikes that land, do they even count?
03:00:09.000
Now, do you ever use the word clobber when you're calling fights?
03:00:13.000
I don't call fights, but clobber's not in my dictionary.
03:00:47.000
Will they set that place on fire if they do give to Wonderboy?
03:01:14.000
You don't think they put her in there for a reason?
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I think they want people to get used to fucked up decisions.
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Because if they ever needed to pull something out, like something was like, dude, this motherfucker has to win.
03:01:39.000
Boxing's corrupt as shit, but with MMA, I just think they don't know what they're looking at.
03:02:19.000
49, 46, 49, 46, 48, 47. Well, that's a big victory for him, that's for sure.
03:02:33.000
What does it feel like to get that victory on your wick collar?
03:02:59.000
I feel like it's so much cooler when they talk like this as a fighter.
03:04:12.000
They might not even let me do commentary over there.
03:04:21.000
Dude, I lasted literally six minutes and I walked out.
03:04:28.000
The reason why I walked out, I realized what it is about Star Wars.
03:04:32.000
In the chase scenes, they use the classic Star Wars music.
03:04:38.000
That music is just so Indiana Jones, campy, corny.
03:04:50.000
I had one of those chicken baguettes with the barbecue watermelon sauce.
03:05:02.000
I was done with that before the movie even started, the chicken watermelon barbecue.
03:05:19.000
My wife took my son to some birthday party thing, and they were going to be gone for a couple hours, and I just said, you know what?
03:05:40.000
Not so much since I had a kid, but back in the day, I would go all the time by myself.
03:05:44.000
I think I've only been maybe three times, not even in my life, by myself.
03:05:53.000
If I go with someone else and I got to fucking stay, because nobody likes leaving movies.
03:06:00.000
So I got to fucking sit there for the whole stupid movie.
03:06:06.000
As soon as I don't give a shit about the movie, I'm out.
03:06:26.000
Dude, that welterweight division is pure fire right now.
03:06:33.000
I think out of all the young guys, out of Colby Covington, Usman, and then Darren Till.
03:06:38.000
Till, if I had to bet on one of them, being like the world champion, beat Till.
03:06:44.000
He's a dangerous motherfucker, that's for sure.
03:06:46.000
If you trade him with that guy, I mean, the thing that Wonderboy did that was so interesting is he's just never there.
03:06:52.000
And it made it a hard fight for Till to keep his composure and fight five hard rounds.
03:06:57.000
And constantly be chasing him, and Wonderboy's never there.
03:07:00.000
And Wonderboy tagged him a couple times, but Till was the one that landed the big haymaker.
03:07:04.000
But you also see Till under control, experienced, still stuck to his technique.
03:07:10.000
Now, I'd like to see him against a guy who has high-level wrestling, like Kobe Kempton or Woodley, or even Usman, super high-level wrestling.
03:07:18.000
I'd like to see that, where it's not an ideal matchup for him.
03:07:21.000
Because Cowboy and Wonderboy are strikers, so it's wheelhouse.
03:07:26.000
Let me see an RDA, an Usman, or a Colby Compton.
03:07:38.000
But, see, I don't think you do Colby versus Dan.
03:07:40.000
I don't think you kill off the Young Lions yet.
03:07:42.000
I think you let the Young Lions go after the Robbie Lawlers, the Cowboys, the RDAs, the Woodleys.
03:07:49.000
Or do they just try to make the best fights they can make?
03:07:56.000
Because this fight doesn't make too much sense for Wonderboy.
03:08:09.000
I mean, if they wanted him to have to weigh 188, they know that he's probably well, well north of that.
03:08:18.000
Probably coming in well north of 200. See, but missing the weight, we don't make a big enough deal of it.
03:08:23.000
I don't really care either, but it is a problem, man.
03:08:29.000
But like with Mackenzie Dern, after she missed it, I didn't care.
03:08:33.000
But she missed it by seven fucking pounds, man.
03:08:48.000
She took that chick down, mounted her, pounded her, took her back.
03:08:53.000
It was like a hoist versus that Dutch kickboxer with the gi pants.
03:09:00.000
Yeah, but her striking was the impressive thing.
03:09:21.000
I like thick, but then there's like, damn girl, we need a little pride here.
03:09:40.000
It all depends on how much ass goes with the package.
03:10:09.000
Does everyone, like the UFC Tonight crew, everyone just folds over?
03:10:12.000
Well, my contract is with the UFC and I was never working for Fox.
03:10:18.000
Yeah, but one of the stipulations of my newer contract, I said I didn't want to do the Fox events anymore.
03:10:29.000
If you notice when there are big fights on Fox, I don't do any of them.
03:10:41.000
This suit is not a big deal because they have the suit there for me.
03:10:44.000
But my issue was Fox actually paid me less money.
03:10:59.000
I didn't like, when I first started doing it for them, they got in my ear.
03:11:04.000
The very first events for Fox, they were telling me what to do.
03:11:07.000
They were telling me to take it down a notch, don't be so amped up about that.
03:11:19.000
If you think you can change me, then we're not going to work together.
03:11:28.000
Was that the Junior Dos Santos, Cain Velasquez?
03:11:45.000
And I've been doing it the way I do it forever.
03:11:47.000
If you don't like the way I do it, that's fine.
03:11:50.000
But don't try to get me to become some sports guy.
03:11:55.000
When I commentated for Pride, they told me I said nice too much.
03:12:01.000
They couldn't even speak English, and they thought I said nice a lot.
03:12:07.000
To their credit, they stopped doing it after the first event when I voiced my displeasure.
03:12:12.000
I just let them know really clearly, we're not doing this.
03:12:16.000
I'm not going to change how I do it to make you happy.
03:12:21.000
It's just like, if you don't like the way I do it, it's not an option for you to direct me and tell me to do it the way you like it.
03:12:31.000
This is a personal choice by one or two, whoever the fuck the people were, that were producers or executives.
03:12:37.000
I don't agree with them, and I'm not doing it that way.
03:12:43.000
If you bought a Ferrari and it had a certain sound to it, and you're like, man, I don't like this sound.
03:12:48.000
Can you guys go back to the factory and fix these mufflers?
03:12:57.000
I like a Ferrari, but I want it to sound like a Corolla.
03:13:02.000
Probably a bad analogy, but the idea behind it you get.
03:13:09.000
If some shit is going down and these guys are throwing blows and I'm screaming, it's because I feel that way.
03:13:21.000
But they let it go after a while, but it's not like they fought for me when I quit either.
03:13:38.000
Well, Adidas owns Reebok, so Adidas is killing it.
03:13:44.000
They're MMA, they're in with CrossFit, so they're in that world.
03:13:48.000
And to Reebok's defense, you know, they made the offer.
03:13:54.000
They didn't know they were screwing over fighters.
03:14:00.000
It seemed like even the UFC wasn't aware of how much fighters were actually making off of sponsorships.
03:14:06.000
You and I know that there was some debate as to whether or not...
03:14:10.000
They had a distorted perception of how much some fighters were making.
03:14:17.000
I think they talk to maybe the top 10 guys and like, hey, we're going to pay you this.
03:14:28.000
I'm not making decisions based off those 10 to 15 top guys.
03:14:33.000
I'm making decisions that's going to affect my bottom line.
03:14:38.000
One judge in the Jason Knight fight gave every round of Jason Knight.
03:14:41.000
So one judge did look at it like you, like he was on his back and he did get taken down, but he was the one that was aggressive on the ground.
03:14:49.000
I don't think you just take a guy down and have one thing you do and then be in control.
03:15:00.000
Eddie Bravo, tell everybody you're at Tinfoil Hat Comedy at Cobbs.
03:15:05.000
Yeah, this Friday at Cobbs in San Francisco, Saturday in Sacramento.
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And then I'm at the Ice House on the 15th, June 15th of the Ice House, one show only.
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And then I'm in Houston, Houston Improv, the 22nd, 23rd, June 26th, 23rd.