The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion

00:00:00.000 18-year-old and shit like that, right?

00:00:01.000 His daughter?

00:00:02.000 Here we go, here we go.

00:00:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:00:04.000 Three, two, one.

00:00:07.000 Damn, it's been a minute since we did one of these.

00:00:09.000 Hot minute.

00:00:10.000 How long has it been?

00:00:11.000 I can't remember.

00:00:12.000 At least six months.

00:00:13.000 Longer than that.

00:00:14.000 Longer than that.

00:00:14.000 And Cal is just not part of the fight.

00:00:16.000 This is the fight companion these days.

00:00:17.000 Wow, you're kicking him out.

00:00:19.000 I can't believe it.

00:00:19.000 I knew it was going to happen.

00:00:20.000 Dude, what are we going to do?

00:00:21.000 We've got a fallen kind of...

00:00:23.000 Got to put him out to sea, man.

00:00:25.000 He's getting old.

00:00:25.000 He just can't make it anymore and shit.

00:00:27.000 What's that dude from the Beatles that they kicked out?

00:00:30.000 What's his name?

00:00:31.000 Before Ringo came in?

00:00:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:00:33.000 Was he the original drummer?

00:00:34.000 Peter or something like that?

00:00:35.000 Right?

00:00:36.000 He was a drummer, right?

00:00:37.000 Well, fuck Peter if you bring in Ringo.

00:00:39.000 He was...

00:00:40.000 It was so sad.

00:00:42.000 Pete Best.

00:00:43.000 Pete Best.

00:00:44.000 I was listening to this Malcolm Gladwell book on tape.

00:00:48.000 It's called Outliers.

00:00:50.000 And they got into a part about the Beatles.

00:00:52.000 The Beatles, man.

00:00:53.000 Pete Pest, he was there in the beginning, man.

00:00:57.000 He did these crazy gigs with them.

00:00:59.000 Could you imagine, like, you being a part of a band, and then you get kicked out of that band, it turns into the Beatles.

00:01:07.000 The Beatles?

00:01:07.000 I mean, that's never happened before.

00:01:09.000 I mean, no one has ever been to the Beatles before, right?

00:01:12.000 So no one has ever been.

00:01:13.000 Is that him right there?

00:01:14.000 Oh, he doesn't look like he fits in, does he?

00:01:16.000 Dude.

00:01:17.000 No one has ever been that guy.

00:01:19.000 How about those chicks screaming when they first...

00:01:23.000 Oh my god.

00:01:24.000 There was nothing like that before that.

00:01:26.000 There's people saying that that was all staged.

00:01:28.000 No.

00:01:29.000 Come on, Eddie.

00:01:30.000 Those girls screaming?

00:01:31.000 Fuck, no.

00:01:31.000 There's people saying that.

00:01:32.000 There's not good enough actors out there.

00:01:33.000 It was on YouTube.

00:01:34.000 Then Biebers are faking, too.

00:01:36.000 I'll send you a link.

00:01:37.000 The Biebs has the same effect on girls.

00:01:39.000 Listen, man.

00:01:40.000 Girls lose their minds when they see certain dudes, Brendan Shaw.

00:01:44.000 Never like that, though.

00:01:45.000 Never like that.

00:01:46.000 If you look at that old footage.

00:01:49.000 They just go crazy.

00:01:50.000 Look at those chicks.

00:01:51.000 Dude, that's because they didn't have the internet.

00:01:53.000 They didn't know they were being dorks.

00:01:55.000 That was natural.

00:01:56.000 That's how every girl naturally feels.

00:01:58.000 There's no Instagram.

00:01:59.000 There's no Instagram.

00:02:00.000 There's nothing.

00:02:01.000 So the first time you see them in person, we have a sense.

00:02:03.000 Is there a possibility that it was set up?

00:02:05.000 Is there a possibility?

00:02:06.000 Stop with the conspiracy.

00:02:07.000 We have an idea of what women are based on how women behave around us when they're worried about the way we think about them.

00:02:15.000 The same way we behave differently when it's all us when there's no women around.

00:02:20.000 There's just ways that people behave.

00:02:22.000 And if you leave all these women together...

00:02:25.000 Hold on a second.

00:02:26.000 If you leave all these women together and it's 19 what?

00:02:29.000 What year was that?

00:02:32.000 What's that, the 60s?

00:02:33.000 The late 60s?

00:02:34.000 62?

00:02:35.000 Right when JFK died?

00:02:37.000 Dude, they didn't even barely have books back then.

00:02:40.000 Dude, they didn't have shit.

00:02:41.000 They were happy to get out of the kitchen.

00:02:43.000 They got the Beatles walked by.

00:02:44.000 Do they have footage of them girls screaming?

00:02:46.000 Of course they had books.

00:02:47.000 I'm joking.

00:02:48.000 But what I'm not joking around about is that no one had ever experienced anything like that before, and if you get all these girls together, and they're seeing these guys who they're seeing on television, and they're seeing on the Ed Sullivan Show, and they're seeing them everywhere, and they're in the newspapers and the magazines, and they see these guys,

00:03:05.000 and the sounds they make are so good, and the way they sing and play music together is so magical, and it's so unprecedented, and it's a new kind of sound, and they're just special.

00:03:17.000 And these girls just can't help it.

00:03:19.000 They're like, ME! Crying, screaming from the eggs.

00:03:21.000 Have you ever seen a taping of a TV show?

00:03:25.000 Yeah.

00:03:25.000 Did you ever see the big applause light with your applause?

00:03:29.000 Is that a real applause or is that a fake applause?

00:03:31.000 I mean, that's fake.

00:03:32.000 So it's possible.

00:03:34.000 That's a different level, bro.

00:03:36.000 That's a different level, dude.

00:03:38.000 Already, bro?

00:03:39.000 We're five minutes in.

00:03:40.000 Listen, those applause lights, they're not a conspiracy.

00:03:43.000 They're not a conspiracy, but they are kind of cheesy.

00:03:47.000 Dude, look at Justin Bieber's concert.

00:03:50.000 He's hot as fuck.

00:03:51.000 He is hot.

00:03:51.000 But I worked security for some of these bands, and I worked for when Hilary Duff was in her heyday.

00:03:59.000 I'm talking bitches passing out from excitement.

00:04:02.000 I have to grab their big asses out of the crowd.

00:04:05.000 That's not fake, Eddie.

00:04:06.000 That's real, dude.

00:04:07.000 I'm talking bitches crying.

00:04:08.000 We have to understand, girls have a completely different reaction.

00:04:11.000 Not all girls, but some girls.

00:04:13.000 Some dudes, too!

00:04:14.000 With you, bro!

00:04:14.000 Do you remember the reactions?

00:04:16.000 There's a lot of Beatles footage of the audience, but there's girls just fucking flipping out, screaming and crying, like just going nuts.

00:04:25.000 You remember those?

00:04:25.000 Those shots?

00:04:26.000 100%.

00:04:27.000 Look, do I think that girls would act up?

00:04:31.000 To get on camera?

00:04:32.000 To make it a bigger deal?

00:04:33.000 Yes.

00:04:34.000 Do I think that's what they were all doing?

00:04:36.000 No.

00:04:37.000 Look at this mayhem.

00:04:38.000 Dude, I think they couldn't believe that the Beatles were actually there.

00:04:41.000 There had never been anybody like the Beatles before.

00:04:44.000 Cockthirsty, bro.

00:04:45.000 Dude, I think they were just hypnotized.

00:04:47.000 There's something singing out in their DNA about that music.

00:04:52.000 Because, look, we can listen to the Beatles today, and it's still great.

00:04:55.000 I listened to the White Album just the other day.

00:04:58.000 It was amazing.

00:04:59.000 I listened to it from beginning to end.

00:05:01.000 They weren't that sexy, though.

00:05:02.000 They weren't like hard drops.

00:05:04.000 They had dickhead haircuts.

00:05:05.000 They don't have to be.

00:05:06.000 They look basic.

00:05:06.000 They don't have to be.

00:05:07.000 No, I know.

00:05:08.000 It's the music.

00:05:09.000 They're so good.

00:05:10.000 And this movie, or this book, rather, the Malcolm Gladwell book, was all about...

00:05:16.000 Extraordinary performances like what people have done that's been completely extraordinary and one of them was talking about how the Beatles got so good because they played I think it was Berlin was where they play or Hamburg one of those so they played somewhere where they played all night they played like multiple hours a night and they played every day they played us insane number in front of audiences in front of audiences they just played constantly and He talked about the importance of that That by the time

00:05:47.000 we got to see them, by the time they were on television, they had played together so many more times than the average band will do in their entire career.

00:05:57.000 Like the sheer numbers, they were always playing, always doing these live performances.

00:06:02.000 I forget where it was.

00:06:03.000 The Cavern Club?

00:06:04.000 Where was it?

00:06:05.000 The Beatles at the Cavern Club is what it was called, I think.

00:06:08.000 Where was the place that they performed early in their career?

00:06:11.000 I want to say it was Hamburg.

00:06:12.000 This is the first of a long series of resident nights during a traditional jazz evening.

00:06:17.000 They performed an interval as the only rock group during an all-night session including jazz.

00:06:22.000 It might be one of many things they've done.

00:06:24.000 I think this was before they made it.

00:06:27.000 This was as they were young guys coming up.

00:06:30.000 Here's another thing about the Beatles and Hamburg.

00:06:32.000 Just so many repetitions.

00:06:34.000 Yeah, and he talked about that Pete Best dude.

00:06:37.000 He's going, fuck, I was in the mix.

00:06:40.000 Did he end up doing anything?

00:06:42.000 Did he start his own band?

00:06:44.000 How do you recover from that?

00:06:46.000 Biggest L of all time.

00:06:47.000 Here's the thing, there's never been a Beatles before.

00:06:49.000 See, we're looking at the Beatles like we already know they're awesome.

00:06:53.000 They're already a part of pop culture history.

00:06:56.000 I missed them.

00:06:57.000 I'm younger.

00:06:57.000 Yeah, but if we lived back then, man, if it was like 1963 and the Beatles burst in the scene, you would be like, what the fuck?

00:07:05.000 Is there anything close to that?

00:07:06.000 Now we have too much stimulus.

00:07:09.000 We see it too much.

00:07:10.000 Instagram, we get inside their lives.

00:07:12.000 It's hard.

00:07:12.000 It's hard to find anything like that.

00:07:14.000 There's that Korean band that's fucking huge.

00:07:16.000 Huge.

00:07:17.000 A Korean band?

00:07:18.000 Yes, that girls freak out.

00:07:20.000 A K-pop band.

00:07:20.000 I forget their name.

00:07:22.000 But you'll see they'll put them in at the Grammys and stuff.

00:07:25.000 And the entire crowd is these young, teenage Korean girls going fucking ape shit for them.

00:07:30.000 They're huge.

00:07:32.000 But there's like the Backstreet Boys and New Kids on the Block.

00:07:34.000 What about Baby Metal?

00:07:35.000 Have you heard of them?

00:07:36.000 What?

00:07:37.000 Baby Metal?

00:07:38.000 No.

00:07:38.000 You haven't heard of Baby Metal?

00:07:40.000 Never, bro.

00:07:40.000 You've heard of Baby Metal?

00:07:41.000 Jamie's on the ball with the Yankee stuff.

00:07:44.000 Baby Metal is super technical power metal, but they have little Japanese girls singing.

00:07:51.000 What?

00:07:52.000 It's insane.

00:07:53.000 It's gigantic.

00:07:54.000 It's gigantic.

00:07:56.000 Are you into it, Eddie, or no?

00:07:58.000 No, it's just funny.

00:07:59.000 You can't put this on YouTube, right?

00:08:00.000 Well, you yanked.

00:08:01.000 Just a second.

00:08:01.000 Just a second, I can.

00:08:05.000 Damn.

00:08:05.000 And it's super hardcore metal.

00:08:07.000 This is like...

00:08:08.000 It's like...

00:08:09.000 Watch.

00:08:12.000 When you talk about repetitions, they do, you know, in Korea, you can watch a documentary on the K-pop stuff, and they don't, like, it's not chemistry where they get them together, they force them together, and then they, it's, you're talking 14 hours a day, they make them rehearse, practice, practice, they can't have girlfriends,

00:08:29.000 boyfriends, they tell them when to eat, where to sleep, it's a beast.

00:08:33.000 Fuck that noise.

00:08:34.000 That's why one of the biggest Korean pop singers of all time committed suicide.

00:08:38.000 Just didn't want to deal with the restrictions and the control.

00:08:42.000 Sounds like Illuminati.

00:08:43.000 Jesus Christ.

00:08:45.000 So they're like the old school studio model.

00:08:48.000 You ever hear that?

00:08:51.000 Menudo?

00:08:51.000 No, no, no.

00:08:53.000 Didn't they used to do that with bands?

00:08:56.000 They used to do that even with movies.

00:08:58.000 In the old school studio days, they'd sign them to these long-term contracts, and they would produce all the stuff for them.

00:09:05.000 And force them to do things.

00:09:07.000 Studios would sign actors to contracts, right?

00:09:09.000 Do they still do that?

00:09:10.000 That's them, by the way, Jamie.

00:09:11.000 BTS. BTS. Behind the scenes?

00:09:14.000 Is that what fans were?

00:09:17.000 That's crazy.

00:09:18.000 We haven't said anything about the fights.

00:09:20.000 I don't know anything about what young kids are doing today.

00:09:25.000 I have to go to Jamie.

00:09:26.000 And Jamie's an intermediary.

00:09:27.000 Because he's a grown man.

00:09:29.000 He's not a boy.

00:09:30.000 He's a blue belt.

00:09:31.000 He's not a 20 year old.

00:09:32.000 How old are you?

00:09:33.000 35. I have to try to pay attention.

00:09:35.000 I try too, man.

00:09:36.000 Jamie's struggling to pay attention.

00:09:39.000 The young girls, you know, I was at the mall today with my son, the young girls with the cut-off jean shorts and the ass cheeks hanging out the back.

00:09:45.000 I know that's in.

00:09:46.000 Dude, that is crazy.

00:09:47.000 I mean, just ass out the back, bro.

00:09:49.000 Out the back.

00:09:50.000 People are just trying so hard.

00:09:53.000 Just to get recognition, man.

00:09:56.000 It's a fascinating time to be a person.

00:09:59.000 It really is.

00:10:00.000 So interesting right now.

00:10:01.000 It's a good time.

00:10:02.000 Oh, yeah, it's a great time.

00:10:05.000 Also a rough time.

00:10:07.000 Wow.

00:10:07.000 With all the mass shooters.

00:10:09.000 That's the fucked up part.

00:10:11.000 Especially in Thousand Oaks.

00:10:12.000 That was a safe-ass place.

00:10:14.000 Yeah, how is that happening?

00:10:15.000 And a Marine.

00:10:17.000 A former Marine.

00:10:17.000 How about a dude that was in the Las Vegas shooting as a survivor, was a survivor in the Thousand Oaks shooting?

00:10:22.000 What are the fucking odds of that?

00:10:23.000 Same year?

00:10:24.000 What are the odds of that?

00:10:25.000 Insane.

00:10:25.000 Think about the odds of that.

00:10:27.000 What?

00:10:28.000 I think there was someone who was in the Vegas shooting who survived that, who was at this one that died, right?

00:10:33.000 Was there?

00:10:34.000 I think so.

00:10:35.000 Either way, it's dark shit.

00:10:37.000 Okay.

00:10:39.000 They don't have no idea of his motive or anything, right?

00:10:41.000 The cops had investigated him.

00:10:44.000 They investigated him fairly recently because they thought he was unstable or something like that.

00:10:50.000 I think his mom called the cops.

00:10:52.000 Somebody called the cops, and they investigated him and talked to him.

00:10:56.000 That's always tough if you're an FBI. What do you want us to do, arrest him for being fucking weird?

00:11:00.000 He didn't threaten us.

00:11:01.000 What can we do?

00:11:02.000 For everyone that does this, there's 100,000 that don't.

00:11:08.000 You know, I mean, you gotta figure out what the fuck is it that allows people to decide to hit that switch.

00:11:15.000 I don't know if they understand that.

00:11:17.000 What's the psychological motivation of that?

00:11:20.000 But it's got to be a sign that there's something wrong with our culture, if it's popping up so often.

00:11:26.000 It's got to be a sign that there's something wrong.

00:11:29.000 Obviously, they always chalk it up to mental health, and all right, yeah, he has mental health.

00:11:33.000 You know how many people have mental health issues, and none of them are going to blow people up or shoot people?

00:11:38.000 There's different kinds of mental health issues.

00:11:39.000 But there's also just bad people.

00:11:41.000 Yeah.

00:11:42.000 Sometimes you've got to chalk it up to that, too.

00:11:43.000 That's true, too.

00:11:44.000 But you know, a lot of bad people, like a giant number, have had horrible things happen to them.

00:11:50.000 That's where it gets weird.

00:11:52.000 Because it's like, okay, what made this guy become who he is?

00:11:55.000 I mean, you definitely should...

00:11:58.000 You definitely should arrest someone who does evil shit, right?

00:12:03.000 But what makes a person get to a point where they can do evil shit?

00:12:07.000 There's a whole series of events probably take place, including abuse, physical abuse, maybe sexual abuse.

00:12:14.000 And sometimes there's not.

00:12:14.000 Sometimes you just get a bad apple.

00:12:16.000 Like with Jeffrey Dahmer, it's like his parents are like...

00:12:18.000 Yeah, you definitely can get some weird shit with his mom, but still.

00:12:22.000 You know how some people are born, they have problems with their liver.

00:12:25.000 Some people are born, they have problems with their brain.

00:12:27.000 That's just a fact.

00:12:28.000 We know that.

00:12:29.000 There's problems with the eyesight.

00:12:30.000 There's problems with, you know, people are born deaf.

00:12:34.000 There's errors in the human body sometimes.

00:12:37.000 You don't think that someone could be born just completely squirrelly, wired wrong.

00:12:42.000 Of course they can.

00:12:43.000 It only makes sense.

00:12:44.000 I'm not a doctor, obviously.

00:12:45.000 I'm a fucking moron.

00:12:46.000 But I bet a doctor would agree.

00:12:50.000 That when you're dealing with mental health issues, you're probably dealing with this giant spectrum of them.

00:12:56.000 What if there's something we could check so that like when they're a baby could check and there's something in the DNA. That's called eugenics.

00:13:01.000 But in there like this, he's going to be a bad kid.

00:13:03.000 Do we just...

00:13:03.000 What do you do with him?

00:13:04.000 But how do you know he's going to be about...

00:13:06.000 How many people...

00:13:08.000 Based on the symmetry of your face.

00:13:10.000 But how many people want to be a better person and they don't ever get it together?

00:13:14.000 And how many people are lacking some sort of coaching or lacking some...

00:13:20.000 Inspiration.

00:13:21.000 Yeah, inspiration.

00:13:21.000 Positive people in their life and then their life spirals further and further downhill.

00:13:25.000 How many people are on the border?

00:13:27.000 God.

00:13:27.000 The majority, right?

00:13:29.000 Yes, because I think people change and I think people improve as they grow older and as they become wiser and they have more experiences.

00:13:36.000 But also, if you look at the mass shooters, a lot of them are quote-unquote losers.

00:13:41.000 They live in their parents' basement.

00:13:42.000 They don't have anything going on.

00:13:44.000 A lot of them are white.

00:13:44.000 A lot of them look like shit.

00:13:46.000 They're always white.

00:13:47.000 They're always white.

00:13:48.000 Low energy.

00:13:50.000 Always white.

00:13:50.000 Low energy.

00:13:52.000 Sometimes not low energy.

00:13:53.000 This guy didn't seem low energy.

00:13:54.000 You know, the Nazis made propaganda films.

00:13:57.000 Basically, they made people believe that mentally deranged people were out on the streets attacking and killing people.

00:14:06.000 And they made propaganda films so that they would okay killing someone who was, you know, mentally deranged.

00:14:14.000 You always have to be careful of people trying to label someone as someone that you don't have to consider a regular human.

00:14:21.000 Someone who you could disregard.

00:14:23.000 That's what they do with the Jews, right?

00:14:24.000 They're rats.

00:14:25.000 They're stealing from us.

00:14:26.000 They're monsters.

00:14:26.000 That's what they do.

00:14:27.000 People have done that throughout history to other people.

00:14:29.000 There's like a scientific term for it.

00:14:31.000 I don't remember what it is.

00:14:33.000 Eugenics.

00:14:33.000 No, no, no.

00:14:34.000 That's not what I'm saying.

00:14:35.000 It's a scientific term for people that demonize other groups of people.

00:14:39.000 And the way they look at people...

00:14:41.000 Propagandists?

00:14:41.000 No, no.

00:14:43.000 The way you look at people, like this is a person, and you looked at the enemy, you would look at them like a subhuman.

00:14:51.000 Racist.

00:14:52.000 It is definitely racist, but there's a trait that people...

00:14:56.000 There's a pattern that people commonly fall into with that.

00:15:00.000 I feel like it's a common word, too.

00:15:03.000 We're all stupid in here.

00:15:04.000 We're all stupid.

00:15:05.000 But dehumanizing the enemy, it's a natural thing that people do.

00:15:09.000 Everyone does it.

00:15:11.000 It's so weird.

00:15:12.000 And it's how people can do gang warfare.

00:15:14.000 It's how people can do tribal warfare.

00:15:16.000 It's how people can do intercontinental warfare.

00:15:19.000 Where you had your boy, what's his name, the English cat, the hypnotizer?

00:15:23.000 Darren Brown.

00:15:24.000 Darren Brown.

00:15:25.000 Have you seen his thing on Netflix?

00:15:27.000 No.

00:15:27.000 It's fucking sick.

00:15:29.000 And so, I'm not, it's no spoiler alert, but, so, he took a guy, like, he took a ton of people, took a guy who lives in Florida, who's in construction, and who was super kind of racist towards immigrants, like Mexicans and Hispanics, and he sat him down because he thought he was the perfect one for sure taking his phone off,

00:15:47.000 bro.

00:15:47.000 Jesus, goddammit.

00:15:48.000 What in the fuck?

00:15:49.000 Goddamn, bro.

00:15:50.000 It's Gio right now.

00:15:51.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:15:54.000 Hey, Gio, I'm on Fight Companion right now with Joe Rogan.

00:15:57.000 Say hey, hey, hey.

00:15:59.000 Okay, sorry about that.

00:16:01.000 Did you hear about it or what?

00:16:02.000 Yeah, I was watching it.

00:16:04.000 I watched your fight with Rosenthal.

00:16:08.000 Oh, why was that?

00:16:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:16:10.000 Points, dude.

00:16:11.000 That's the point system.

00:16:12.000 You know what I mean?

00:16:12.000 That's the way they go down.

00:16:14.000 They called me a thawing point.

00:16:16.000 They gave me a point, I took it from the head, and then they took it away and gave me the hint.

00:16:20.000 10 seconds left of the match.

00:16:34.000 Yeah, so that's what it was.

00:16:41.000 They called stalling for you being in top half?

00:16:46.000 Yeah.

00:16:47.000 Is that why you lost?

00:16:48.000 Oh, I thought it was a judge's decision and they gave it to him based on that almost...

00:16:54.000 Oh, there's no judge's decision.

00:16:54.000 Okay.

00:16:55.000 This is super technical talk.

00:16:57.000 The only thing I made jujitsu more boring is hearing a guy talk about jujitsu.

00:17:00.000 Let me call you back.

00:17:02.000 It's tough.

00:17:03.000 I don't think jujitsu is boring.

00:17:04.000 I don't either, but if you explain it...

00:17:06.000 No fucking idea what that was.

00:17:08.000 Gino Martinez in the house.

00:17:09.000 Monster.

00:17:10.000 Gino is a fantastic tack belt under Eddie Bravo, and he's one we've referenced many times in the podcast.

00:17:15.000 Him and his brother Richie, Boogeyman, because both those guys started out as b-boys.

00:17:21.000 They started out as these really badass break dancers, and they have incredible control of their body.

00:17:27.000 And I remember when they first started training at Eddie's place, Eddie was like, he had a new formula.

00:17:32.000 He was like, dude, fucking b-boys!

00:17:33.000 Everyone breakdance.

00:17:34.000 That's the key.

00:17:36.000 Tony can breakdance too, though.

00:17:39.000 And he wrestled.

00:17:40.000 So he's got both.

00:17:41.000 What's up with Tony?

00:17:42.000 What's going on with Tony?

00:17:43.000 I feel bad for him.

00:17:44.000 I feel like they're leaving him in the fucking dust.

00:17:46.000 No, no, no.

00:17:47.000 No, no, no.

00:17:48.000 No, they're not leaving him in the dust.

00:17:49.000 No?

00:17:50.000 No.

00:17:51.000 Hey.

00:17:52.000 No.

00:17:52.000 They're very serious about doing something with Tony Ferguson.

00:17:55.000 Oh, yeah.

00:17:56.000 Dana even said that he is most likely next in line for Khabib.

00:18:01.000 Tony Ferguson, look, after that performance...

00:18:03.000 He deserves it, man.

00:18:04.000 Fuck!

00:18:04.000 Yeah, he does.

00:18:05.000 And after that performance against Pettis, like, come on, man.

00:18:08.000 This is the time.

00:18:10.000 It's the time to set him up.

00:18:11.000 He's so fucking tough.

00:18:13.000 Khabib wants it, too, though.

00:18:14.000 Yes.

00:18:14.000 I think Khabib said him or GSB, right?

00:18:16.000 It's the fights, man.

00:18:17.000 Tony hasn't lost in, what, is it 12 fights now?

00:18:21.000 How many fights is it?

00:18:22.000 11?

00:18:22.000 It's 11 or 12 fight win streak against guys like Edson Barboza, Darcyza.

00:18:29.000 Kevin Lee.

00:18:30.000 Kevin Lee triangles him.

00:18:33.000 Pettis.

00:18:33.000 Pettis gets an injury, but before the end...

00:18:35.000 Josh Thompson.

00:18:36.000 Josh Thompson.

00:18:37.000 It's 11, yeah?

00:18:39.000 Rafael Dos Anjos.

00:18:40.000 Up.

00:18:40.000 Lando Venado.

00:18:41.000 Dos Anjos.

00:18:42.000 Lando fucking came at him, dude.

00:18:42.000 He's beat some tough fucking guys, man.

00:18:44.000 Lando came at him.

00:18:46.000 He had no training camp for that one.

00:18:47.000 He didn't train him for that one.

00:18:48.000 A lot of problems.

00:18:49.000 You think that's the next fight they make, though?

00:18:51.000 Lando's a talented guy, man.

00:18:53.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:18:54.000 And he clipped him.

00:18:54.000 I mean, he clipped him.

00:18:54.000 He clipped him with that.

00:18:55.000 He does this head kick out of the break.

00:18:59.000 But he survived that and won.

00:19:01.000 I mean, dude, Tony Ferguson is a fucking beast.

00:19:04.000 Look at this.

00:19:05.000 Abel Triho, Danny Castillo.

00:19:06.000 Those are no punks, man.

00:19:07.000 Josh Thompson, Monster, Barboza, Venata, Dos Anjos.

00:19:11.000 Just look at Barboza, Venata, Rafael Dos Anjos, and Kevin Lee, and then Anthony Pettis in a row.

00:19:18.000 He beats those guys.

00:19:20.000 Does not nearly get the attention he deserves.

00:19:23.000 God, man.

00:19:24.000 He's got a million followers now.

00:19:26.000 And he's more.

00:19:26.000 He should be...

00:19:29.000 First of all, I don't think he should have been stripped.

00:19:31.000 Because he got injured one time.

00:19:34.000 Doing USC press.

00:19:36.000 And doing something.

00:19:36.000 He tripped over some wires.

00:19:38.000 It's a freak accident.

00:19:39.000 It's just something that happened.

00:19:41.000 You know, to strip him because of that.

00:19:43.000 Like, I don't know.

00:19:44.000 And I think he beat Anthony Pettis at 60%.

00:19:47.000 You would know more, Eddie, but he...

00:19:50.000 He's looked better before the injury, obviously, but him coming back that fast, doing what he did, even Dom Cruz is like, I don't know how the fuck he's doing this.

00:19:58.000 So I thought even as good as he looked, that's not even him at his...

00:20:02.000 You know, he's gonna be even better in this next fight.

00:20:04.000 Well, I think Pettis looked really good too.

00:20:06.000 You gotta give credit to Pettis.

00:20:07.000 Pettis clipped him and he had him hurt.

00:20:10.000 But Tony figured out a way to hold on and survive.

00:20:12.000 But he didn't look like he was missing a beat to me.

00:20:15.000 He looked very in tune.

00:20:18.000 I heard something that he didn't spar for this.

00:20:20.000 Is that true?

00:20:24.000 I'm not too sure what he does with the striking.

00:20:26.000 I'm never there when he trance with the striking.

00:20:28.000 I have no idea, to tell you the truth.

00:20:30.000 Oh, you don't stay all camp?

00:20:31.000 You just deal with the grapple?

00:20:32.000 Somebody knows shit told me that.

00:20:35.000 I've heard that, too.

00:20:35.000 But when he spars, when we do jujitsu, we definitely spar situationally.

00:20:40.000 We do situationally.

00:20:42.000 No straight-up striking 16-ounce gloves.

00:20:45.000 Man, that is such a debate.

00:20:47.000 What a crazy debate that is.

00:20:49.000 Matreon does the same thing.

00:20:50.000 Does he?

00:20:51.000 No sparring.

00:20:51.000 He hasn't sparred in six years.

00:20:53.000 It might not be a bad idea.

00:20:56.000 Robbie Lawler took six years off sparring, too.

00:20:58.000 He did, but then he became better when he went to AT&T and started training with...

00:21:08.000 Some serious talent down there and drop down to 170. The period of no sparring, I think that was the 85 period when he was at Strikeforce.

00:21:17.000 Well, Chad Mendes took a while off, too, because obviously he got busted, but then he took time off, and then he's looking freaking pretty gnarly.

00:21:23.000 Yeah, dude.

00:21:24.000 Having Dale Earnhardt Jr. on the other day and talking to him about the brain injuries that he sustained from driving his car and crashing.

00:21:33.000 I haven't heard it.

00:21:33.000 Yeah, horrible.

00:21:35.000 Dude.

00:21:36.000 He couldn't walk across the room.

00:21:38.000 He had to hold on to tables and shit as he was walking.

00:21:40.000 How many did he say he's had?

00:21:42.000 Concussion?

00:21:42.000 Does he know?

00:21:43.000 Wasn't it something insane like 12 over a period of four years?

00:21:46.000 Holy shit, that's a lot.

00:21:47.000 I want to say it was something like 12 concussions over a period of four years.

00:21:51.000 How is he now?

00:21:52.000 He's great.

00:21:53.000 Super nice guy.

00:21:54.000 Very, very genuine guy.

00:21:56.000 He said that the links popping up says at least 20. Fuck!

00:22:01.000 20 concussions, man.

00:22:03.000 That's more than some fighters.

00:22:04.000 Goddammit, that's crazy.

00:22:06.000 That is so crazy, but...

00:22:08.000 He's had a lot of serious problems that he had worked through, but he found a good doctor that has this good cognitive therapy.

00:22:14.000 Oh really?

00:22:15.000 So he's had some kind of side effects from it?

00:22:17.000 He had a bunch of side effects, but they cleared him up through these exercises.

00:22:21.000 Really interesting stuff.

00:22:23.000 I made the analogy that it's like, is it like exercising your mind?

00:22:26.000 It's just like exercising your body.

00:22:28.000 There's things you can do that make things grow and make things stronger.

00:22:30.000 Keep the neurons firing.

00:22:31.000 Yeah, and make things stronger.

00:22:32.000 I heard CBD oil and fish oil.

00:22:35.000 The experts that I know who are in that field with the brain always tell me tons of fish oil and CBD oil.

00:22:41.000 Krill oil, too.

00:22:42.000 That stuff's real good.

00:22:43.000 Yeah.

00:22:44.000 Yeah.

00:22:45.000 Stuff, anything that reduces inflammation.

00:22:48.000 Damn, Dale Earnhardt.

00:22:49.000 That's crazy.

00:22:51.000 That some of them decide, you know, Cowboy was doing that for a while and probably still is.

00:22:56.000 I don't know what he's doing now.

00:22:57.000 I didn't talk to him about this camp.

00:22:59.000 Not sparring heavy?

00:22:59.000 He wasn't sparring at all.

00:23:01.000 He was just hitting pads.

00:23:03.000 Just hitting pads.

00:23:04.000 It's not a bad idea.

00:23:05.000 It ain't the worst idea, man.

00:23:06.000 Boxers make to differ.

00:23:07.000 You talk to any of those boxers, and they're like, no.

00:23:09.000 I think it was Lomachenko and Wild ago, we like to get 12 rounds in hard right before the fight.

00:23:18.000 Like two weeks, three weeks out, and then we cut it off.

00:23:20.000 Like three weeks out, just see where we're at, and then cut it off.

00:23:22.000 I think the thing about boxing, though, is your hands are wrapped up.

00:23:26.000 You know, your gloves are on.

00:23:28.000 You've got 16-ounce training gloves, maybe even 20 if you're a beast, right?

00:23:32.000 You've got big-ass puffy gloves.

00:23:34.000 16's usually.

00:23:35.000 God, man.

00:23:35.000 You've got big-ass puffy gloves, and there's no kicking.

00:23:38.000 The thing about, like, kicking, it's like...

00:23:42.000 Dude, see, I feel like boxing's more...

00:23:44.000 You can't pull that back.

00:23:44.000 See, I feel like boxing's more dangerous.

00:23:46.000 It is, in a way.

00:23:47.000 Because all they're doing is head-hunting, and it's just head.

00:23:51.000 Right, but you're not...

00:23:52.000 Especially at that level.

00:23:53.000 But you're not getting kicked, right?

00:23:54.000 I know, but in high-level gyms like Black House or ATT, AK, people, they're not really going to throw those kicks as hard as they can.

00:24:03.000 Man, I don't know about all that.

00:24:04.000 Unless you have a fucking old-school shoot box in the 90s or some shit.

00:24:07.000 There's a lot of guys that are still going after it like that.

00:24:09.000 There's a lot of guys that will still talk to you about the benefits of going after it like that.

00:24:13.000 Verdum, yeah.

00:24:14.000 Verdum, Black House.

00:24:14.000 Fucking Farah Sahabi was saying he gets guys to try to kill George St. Pierre.

00:24:18.000 He'd give them extra money if they could knock him out.

00:24:21.000 Just because he's so good, no one's doing shit.

00:24:23.000 He's so good, they're not doing it to him, but he wants him in danger.

00:24:27.000 Feras wants George in danger, in legitimate danger.

00:24:30.000 So in his mind is, you put George in legitimate danger all the time in the gym, and he figures out a way to get through that, and he gets comfortable with that.

00:24:39.000 So when it comes to the fight, it's the same thing.

00:24:43.000 But that's easy to say if you have George St. Pierre.

00:24:45.000 And I love Faraz, but when you have George St. Pierre, who's the smartest dude to ever...

00:24:49.000 One of the smartest guys to ever fight, and he's so technical, whoever you're going to bring in there, you're not going to hit George.

00:24:54.000 So let me ask you this.

00:24:55.000 He's so technical.

00:24:56.000 Maybe there's benefit not when you're early going, when you're learning technique more, and you're really learning timing and pacing.

00:25:05.000 Maybe then is when you should...

00:25:08.000 Spar like way more technical, but then when you get older and you're better, like maybe you need the fear of an actual fight, and then you can just slide right into the fight.

00:25:19.000 That's smart, because your head movement's better, you're smarter.

00:25:22.000 You can protect yourself more, but the danger is still 100% real.

00:25:25.000 And you're aware of all the danger, too.

00:25:27.000 So that way when you're in a fight, it feels exactly like you're training.

00:25:30.000 It's not a bad idea.

00:25:31.000 But you're already there.

00:25:32.000 You're already at a high level of proficiency.

00:25:34.000 You already have the tools.

00:25:36.000 Dude, I really think that there's a real issue with fighters, and this is impossible to tell after it's over, right?

00:25:44.000 After the career's over.

00:25:45.000 Like, why'd they do it this way?

00:25:47.000 What if they had done it that way?

00:25:48.000 Maybe it would have worked better.

00:25:49.000 Well, you know Chuck Liddell, he's not with Hackleman for this T.R.T.'s fight.

00:25:55.000 He just thought that was an old-school type of training, so he decided to go somewhere else.

00:26:00.000 He's training with Einstein.

00:26:02.000 Is he?

00:26:02.000 Well, listen, I'm a big fan of Einstein as a jiu-jitsu coach.

00:26:07.000 I don't know Einstein.

00:26:07.000 Oh, he's a jiu-jitsu guy?

00:26:08.000 I don't know Einstein.

00:26:09.000 And a strength and conditioning coach, too.

00:26:11.000 Yeah, he knows a lot about slow movement, slow movement lifting.

00:26:15.000 What does he call it?

00:26:17.000 I don't know what the style is, but it's super slow.

00:26:21.000 That's what it is, right?

00:26:22.000 He's working with Antonio McKee.

00:26:26.000 Was he working with him?

00:26:27.000 Yeah.

00:26:29.000 But I've known that dude forever.

00:26:30.000 How long have we known that dude?

00:26:31.000 He was in King of the Cage when I used to commentate back in 2000. He's a damn good fighter for a long time, right?

00:26:37.000 His son is awesome.

00:26:39.000 Antonio McKee's son.

00:26:40.000 Antonio McKee, yeah.

00:26:41.000 Is he in Bellator?

00:26:43.000 I was talking about Einstein.

00:26:45.000 Oh, my bad.

00:26:45.000 But no.

00:26:46.000 But both of them.

00:26:47.000 Chuck is training with Antonio McKee as well.

00:26:50.000 What's their gym called?

00:26:50.000 Power Garage or some shit like that?

00:26:52.000 Not sure.

00:26:53.000 I forget, but that's where Chuck's at.

00:26:55.000 Because what I heard on the street, and obviously I fucking love John Hackleman, shout out John Hackleman, but it was such an old school way of training.

00:27:02.000 He's like, dude, the game's advanced so fast, I need to go somewhere.

00:27:06.000 And I saw that he goes down to Jay Glazer's place too, right?

00:27:10.000 The Unbreakable?

00:27:11.000 Yeah, I don't know if they're in business together.

00:27:13.000 He's been there forever.

00:27:14.000 He's been one of the starters.

00:27:16.000 What a dope place Jay Glazer put together.

00:27:19.000 Yeah, it's sick.

00:27:19.000 How badass is that?

00:27:21.000 It's amazing.

00:27:22.000 Have you been there?

00:27:22.000 Is that Chuck?

00:27:23.000 No, man.

00:27:23.000 I've never been, but I've seen all these videos online.

00:27:25.000 It's really cool.

00:27:26.000 I'm like, this place is crazy.

00:27:28.000 Snoop Dogg's in there.

00:27:29.000 Wiz Khalifa's sparring somebody.

00:27:31.000 P. Diddy was in there.

00:27:33.000 Ben Saunders tried to do.

00:27:34.000 You know, Snoop Dogg sparred with Daniel Serafian.

00:27:45.000 Snoop Dogg was...

00:27:45.000 Seraphian wasn't hitting him.

00:27:47.000 He wasn't touching him.

00:27:48.000 But look at this.

00:27:48.000 Look at this.

00:27:49.000 Snoop is in there, and Seraphian's just kind of using head movement and kind of touching him a little bit.

00:27:54.000 But you know how fucking goddamn terrifying that must be?

00:27:57.000 They just have gloves on in front of Seraphian.

00:28:00.000 Do you think Snoop knows?

00:28:01.000 Is he aware?

00:28:02.000 I don't think so.

00:28:03.000 He's gotta be aware.

00:28:04.000 Someone probably told him and was like, hey man, you know what that guy's done?

00:28:06.000 That guy might not be, you know, the best in the world.

00:28:09.000 He might not be the best in the world, but he's a fucking monster.

00:28:13.000 Dude, compared to Snoop.

00:28:15.000 He is built like a brick shithouse.

00:28:18.000 Snoop's leg.

00:28:19.000 He's so strong, too.

00:28:20.000 Black Twizzler.

00:28:21.000 And he cuts a shitload of weight, too.

00:28:23.000 That guy's a gigantic...

00:28:25.000 What weight does Serafian fight?

00:28:27.000 I want to say he fights at 85, but he's super jacked.

00:28:30.000 He's a thicky, dangerous dude.

00:28:34.000 Just a real dangerous dude.

00:28:35.000 So to see him in there sparring with Snoop Dogg, I wonder if Snoop Dogg understands that this is like pawing at a giant pit bull or something.

00:28:44.000 You know, I wonder...

00:28:46.000 I don't think you know to what level.

00:28:47.000 I don't know.

00:28:49.000 He's got balls.

00:28:51.000 Snoop Dogg's got real balls.

00:28:52.000 To not just do that, but to do that and make a video of it.

00:28:56.000 True.

00:28:57.000 And didn't look like an asshole.

00:28:59.000 No, didn't look like an asshole.

00:29:00.000 For a guy that's not a long-time combat sport notable athlete.

00:29:06.000 He's not like some guy we've known about.

00:29:09.000 There's some guys like Mario Lopez.

00:29:12.000 If you saw Mario Lopez boxing with somebody, you'd go, yeah, that guy can box.

00:29:16.000 Everybody knows it.

00:29:18.000 He has smokers.

00:29:19.000 Everybody knows Mario Lopez can box.

00:29:21.000 Has he had smokers?

00:29:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:22.000 He has a smoker against a friend of mine.

00:29:24.000 I think Frank Carillo would fuck him up.

00:29:26.000 Oh, how dare you?

00:29:27.000 I know.

00:29:28.000 He'd punch A.C. Slater in the fucking face.

00:29:30.000 I don't think so, man.

00:29:31.000 Lopez can fight.

00:29:32.000 I've trained with Frank, man.

00:29:34.000 I believe you.

00:29:35.000 I mean, he looks tough, but Lopez can fight.

00:29:38.000 I think he knows how to box.

00:29:39.000 You think?

00:29:39.000 Yeah, I think he really knows how to box.

00:29:41.000 He's been in Wildcard West forever.

00:29:43.000 The way he carries himself.

00:29:44.000 This is one of the reasons why I think he really knows how to box.

00:29:46.000 Because he's not really arrogant?

00:29:48.000 Not really arrogant, but he knows how to fight.

00:29:51.000 He's a nice guy, too.

00:29:52.000 He's nice to think of him.

00:29:53.000 You remember our buddy?

00:29:55.000 He was a porn star.

00:29:57.000 He was the one who fought Mario Lopez.

00:30:00.000 Which one?

00:30:02.000 Goddammit, Derek?

00:30:03.000 Am I out in his real name?

00:30:05.000 Oh, dude, give us the porno name.

00:30:06.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh.

00:30:07.000 Black guy?

00:30:08.000 Derek Diamond.

00:30:09.000 Yeah, it's not Derek.

00:30:10.000 Oh, yeah, Derek Diamond.

00:30:12.000 You don't want to give his real name?

00:30:13.000 Tyler Knight.

00:30:14.000 Tyler Knight, yeah.

00:30:15.000 Oh, that's his porno name?

00:30:16.000 Tyler Knight's his porno name.

00:30:17.000 What a great...

00:30:18.000 And he's also an author.

00:30:21.000 And he runs like crazy marathons and shit now too, doesn't he?

00:30:25.000 Is he still dicking girls down or is he just older?

00:30:26.000 I'm not sure.

00:30:27.000 So anyway, he had an amateur fight.

00:30:30.000 He used to go to 10th Planet.

00:30:31.000 Really nice guy.

00:30:32.000 And he had an amateur fight with Mario Lopez.

00:30:36.000 He had one of them smokers.

00:30:37.000 Back in the day, Mario dropped him, I think.

00:30:39.000 A.C. Slater fucked him up.

00:30:41.000 I think Mario either stopped him or he won a decision.

00:30:45.000 But Tyler dropped him.

00:30:47.000 Tyler dropped Mario.

00:30:48.000 So it was a real fight.

00:30:49.000 So that to me...

00:30:50.000 Because Tyler was jacked.

00:30:52.000 He was super powerful back then.

00:30:54.000 And I think that if he can come back from getting dropped and still win...

00:30:59.000 Mario knows his shit too when it comes to boxing.

00:31:01.000 I've done a podcast just about boxing.

00:31:03.000 I'm sure.

00:31:05.000 He's a fan.

00:31:07.000 I'd like to see him do something.

00:31:11.000 I've never seen him actually box somebody.

00:31:13.000 No, me neither.

00:31:14.000 Isn't he like 45?

00:31:15.000 Yeah, I think he is.

00:31:17.000 Younger than everybody in here.

00:31:19.000 Yeah, he looks beautiful.

00:31:20.000 I don't know what he's doing, but it's working.

00:31:22.000 How old are you?

00:31:23.000 35. He looks younger than you?

00:31:26.000 Dude, Mario Lopez doesn't have a wrinkle on his pretty face, dude.

00:31:29.000 A.C. Slater hasn't aged.

00:31:30.000 Whatever moisturizer he's got, I want.

00:31:34.000 Bring it.

00:31:35.000 Bring it.

00:31:37.000 Dude, I haven't watched one second of this fight.

00:31:40.000 I haven't either, man.

00:31:41.000 I think several fights.

00:31:42.000 Well, not theirs.

00:31:43.000 He looks like...

00:31:43.000 Use Theo's quote.

00:31:45.000 Looks like he got stung by all the bees in the cheeks there.

00:31:49.000 Super nice guy, too.

00:31:51.000 Really, really nice.

00:31:52.000 Real professional, too.

00:31:54.000 Hosting, he's a beast.

00:31:55.000 Who's blowing up faster than Theo Vaughn?

00:31:58.000 Theo Vaughn's killer.

00:32:00.000 He's out there killing it.

00:32:01.000 He's a funny guy, man.

00:32:03.000 He's a really funny guy.

00:32:04.000 That whole Rat King strap thing that he's got going with the podcast, it's hysterical.

00:32:11.000 He's so funny.

00:32:12.000 He brings that belt to all his shows, you know?

00:32:14.000 Takes pictures with fans.

00:32:15.000 Got the strap.

00:32:16.000 He's so funny, man.

00:32:18.000 He came in as a wrestler when we had rap porn on.

00:32:20.000 He came in as a macho man.

00:32:22.000 He's crazy, dude.

00:32:23.000 He's so funny.

00:32:24.000 He's hilarious.

00:32:24.000 And he's such a good guy.

00:32:26.000 A really good guy.

00:32:27.000 I'm always super happy to see Theo Vaughn.

00:32:29.000 Dude, when we did that show in Phoenix with Ari, Big J, Brian, Theo.

00:32:36.000 I mean, Theo freaking destroyed.

00:32:39.000 It was so much fun.

00:32:40.000 He always destroys.

00:32:42.000 Every time I see him, he destroys.

00:32:43.000 He's like...

00:32:44.000 He's not just funny, right?

00:32:45.000 He's funny and you don't know anybody like him.

00:32:49.000 You've never heard it.

00:32:49.000 He's so unique.

00:32:51.000 His upbringing from New Orleans and being in therapy since he was like seven, he's such a unique dude.

00:32:56.000 He's really, really unique.

00:32:58.000 I'll tell you who else I've never really hung out was Big J. Big J's awesome.

00:33:03.000 Big J's awesome.

00:33:04.000 He's a great guy.

00:33:05.000 And hilarious.

00:33:05.000 Yeah, he's a great guy.

00:33:06.000 All those Legion of Skanks guys.

00:33:08.000 Those guys are the best.

00:33:09.000 I don't know any of them.

00:33:10.000 They're nice guys.

00:33:11.000 I just know...

00:33:11.000 Well, I know Big J now.

00:33:12.000 Do you know Louis?

00:33:13.000 I don't know him at all.

00:33:14.000 Louis is great.

00:33:15.000 There's a...

00:33:16.000 There's a...

00:33:17.000 There's a...

00:33:18.000 There's a...

00:33:18.000 They're just...

00:33:19.000 Dave Smith, who's...

00:33:21.000 I've had on my podcast a gang at times...

00:33:23.000 If you ever wanted someone that could understand politics and actually be funny, he's really good at that.

00:33:29.000 Yeah, he's a libertarian.

00:33:30.000 He's one of those guys.

00:33:31.000 Which usually means a white guy with a gun.

00:33:33.000 And no disrespect, the only time I ever listened to their show was when it was about the...

00:33:39.000 Because I think they had one of the dudes on the show when Amy Schumer robbed the stage.

00:33:44.000 Remember that in New York?

00:33:45.000 I listened to that because Big J was kind of giving me the benefit of the doubt, but then the rest of them were just roasting her.

00:33:50.000 It was hilarious.

00:33:53.000 Yeah.

00:33:54.000 Was Ari on that one as well?

00:33:56.000 Yeah.

00:33:56.000 He goes super hard in the paint.

00:33:58.000 He does go hard in the paint.

00:33:59.000 Ari's great, man.

00:34:00.000 Ari's not there to play games.

00:34:01.000 He's great.

00:34:02.000 He didn't give a fuck.

00:34:03.000 Ari's an animal, dude.

00:34:04.000 Let me tell you something.

00:34:05.000 That motherfucker went from not working out at all to doing this Sober October fitness challenge and getting...

00:34:12.000 You know, like, hundreds of points more than Tom Segura and Burt Kreischer.

00:34:17.000 Guys who work out all the time.

00:34:19.000 Do Tom and Burt work out all the time?

00:34:21.000 All the time.

00:34:21.000 I mean, Burt obviously looks good.

00:34:22.000 I mean, Tom looks good.

00:34:25.000 But from where they're from, but they're not, like, in shape.

00:34:28.000 I love both of them.

00:34:29.000 But, bro, it's all in where they're starting from.

00:34:31.000 I know.

00:34:32.000 He's starting from a place where they were both really overweight and they talked themselves into this weight loss challenge.

00:34:38.000 They lost all the weight.

00:34:39.000 Tom kept it off.

00:34:40.000 Tom looks amazing.

00:34:42.000 Tom looks amazing.

00:34:42.000 Bert looks good too.

00:34:43.000 I don't want Bert skinny.

00:34:44.000 He's been fluctuating a little bit.

00:34:47.000 I don't want him skinny.

00:34:47.000 I want him skinny, man.

00:34:48.000 I want him healthy.

00:34:50.000 Is this the new Rocky movie commercial?

00:34:52.000 Is that what this is?

00:34:52.000 Yeah, Apollo.

00:34:53.000 The kids are going to go on forever.

00:34:54.000 I love it.

00:34:55.000 Did Michael B. Jordan do all the steroids?

00:34:58.000 He's jacked.

00:34:58.000 He's super jacked.

00:34:59.000 He's creepy jacked.

00:35:01.000 He's like super athlete jacked.

00:35:04.000 He's so good at being a bad guy, too.

00:35:07.000 He was great in that Black Panther movie as a bad guy.

00:35:11.000 When I see Michael B. Jordan's name, when I see Michael B. Jordan's name, I was thinking of Chris Delia's tweet that goes, the B in Michael B. Jordan stands for basketball.

00:35:20.000 Crazy, right?

00:35:26.000 Whenever I see it, it's stuck with me.

00:35:29.000 So stupid.

00:35:31.000 Dude, DeLee is so silly.

00:35:33.000 He's like one of the silliest guys ever.

00:35:35.000 He makes me laugh so hard, man.

00:35:37.000 He's funny, man.

00:35:37.000 He's not just funny.

00:35:38.000 He's so silly.

00:35:39.000 Like that kind of shit.

00:35:41.000 The beast ends for basketball.

00:35:42.000 Dude, just out of nowhere.

00:35:46.000 It's so stupid.

00:35:47.000 That's so silly.

00:35:48.000 And it's great.

00:35:49.000 It's so good.

00:35:50.000 But he does that all the time.

00:35:52.000 Like, his Instagram feed is all just him being silly.

00:35:56.000 Dude.

00:35:56.000 It's like he's bored all day until he gets on stage, and he just does silly shit on social media.

00:36:01.000 He's a coffee shop, just making fun of people, walk into the coffee shop.

00:36:03.000 It's a funny comic, too, man.

00:36:05.000 Oh, dude.

00:36:06.000 Yeah.

00:36:06.000 Khalil makes me laugh harder than anyone, man.

00:36:08.000 He's a funny guy.

00:36:09.000 He's fucking hilarious.

00:36:09.000 But I think...

00:36:10.000 I love him on stage, but I think I like him as much when he does his silly internet shit.

00:36:16.000 Me, too.

00:36:17.000 Like, when...

00:36:17.000 Do you see his...

00:36:18.000 His...

00:36:19.000 I don't know why he keeps going out.

00:36:20.000 He goes out to everybody, man.

00:36:25.000 He doesn't give a fuck.

00:36:26.000 Did you see when he was imitating rapping like Eminem?

00:36:30.000 Yes.

00:36:30.000 Oh my god.

00:36:31.000 And I told him, can I see that?

00:36:33.000 Let's see that.

00:36:33.000 Me and him love WorldStarHipHop, and I made it on there, and then he made it on there.

00:36:37.000 So I sent him the link, I went, bro, you've made it.

00:36:40.000 Oh my god.

00:36:41.000 He's on WorldStarHipHop.

00:36:42.000 You got WorldStar'd.

00:36:43.000 Yeah, you got WorldStar'd because he's on there for something.

00:36:47.000 That's hilarious.

00:36:48.000 For this.

00:36:48.000 You hear this?

00:36:51.000 He's just making it a physical.

00:36:54.000 Getting an abortion and a divorce at the same time to hear a supporter.

00:36:59.000 Look what I'm planning.

00:37:00.000 I'm planning to do all this while you're panicking.

00:37:04.000 And you're looking and staring at mannequins.

00:37:06.000 And I'm going to fanikins trying to get up with mannequins.

00:37:10.000 All of the mannequins, [...

00:37:16.000 I'm in a cabana and I'm chanting.

00:37:18.000 I'm in a cabana chanting all the stand-up banner.

00:37:21.000 Well, you don't got the stamina, you're lacking the stamina.

00:37:23.000 You're lacking the stamina while you're divorced from Harrison Ford and I'm in a portion of flowing porn.

00:37:29.000 Do you see the edit they did, Jamie?

00:37:31.000 On Eminem's actual body with the video?

00:37:33.000 It's ridiculous.

00:37:36.000 Only he can pull that off, man.

00:37:38.000 He's so silly.

00:37:39.000 Yeah, that's a good example, like we were talking about Theo, of a guy who's got his own uniquely ridiculous kind of comedy for some strange reason.

00:37:48.000 And when you talk to Delia or you talk to any of his friends who have known him forever, they're like, no, all he's wanted to do since he was a kid is make people laugh.

00:37:55.000 This is literally what he's meant to do.

00:37:57.000 Like, it's just a hilarious silly dude.

00:38:00.000 Remember, he got huge on Vine before it went away.

00:38:02.000 I mean, you're talking, he's one of the main stars on Vine, man, for doing this type of stuff.

00:38:06.000 Makes sense.

00:38:07.000 He does that kind of shit all day.

00:38:09.000 His Instagram's great.

00:38:10.000 Oh, if I could post the text that he sends me, I mean, he would get millions and millions.

00:38:15.000 They're so funny, man.

00:38:17.000 Like, when he comes off tour and has all this money.

00:38:20.000 He goes, dude, something's wrong with my microwave.

00:38:22.000 And then hits the button, just all this cash falls out of my microwave.

00:38:26.000 And he's like, I don't know, man.

00:38:28.000 Because I don't know what to do.

00:38:31.000 We always send each other pictures of our check for whatever reason.

00:38:34.000 Just talking shit.

00:38:35.000 That's hilarious.

00:38:36.000 That's hilarious.

00:38:37.000 He's a funny dude.

00:38:39.000 How fun is it having friends that are comedians?

00:38:42.000 The best.

00:38:43.000 The most fun to hang with, man.

00:38:45.000 The best.

00:38:45.000 Everybody's always being silly.

00:38:47.000 Everybody's always putting you in your place.

00:38:50.000 Everybody's always calling you out of your bullshit.

00:38:52.000 You're like, oh no.

00:38:53.000 I love Chris because he dresses like a fuckboy too.

00:38:56.000 So if I wear this jacket to the comedy store, everyone make fun of me.

00:38:59.000 But Chris at least be like, come on.

00:39:01.000 He'll stick up for me.

00:39:03.000 Fresh.

00:39:03.000 Yeah.

00:39:04.000 Yeah, you guys could talk about different clothing manufacturers.

00:39:08.000 Do you know any, Eddie, do you know any clothing designers?

00:39:11.000 Uh, bonjour.

00:39:15.000 Remember those jeans?

00:39:15.000 I know what Versace means.

00:39:17.000 You don't remember bonjour jeans?

00:39:19.000 No, bro.

00:39:19.000 What about Sergio Valente?

00:39:20.000 Listen, this is all old stuff.

00:39:22.000 It's old school, dude.

00:39:23.000 But what I'm saying is this motherfucker could probably rattle off a gang of labels.

00:39:26.000 A few labels.

00:39:27.000 Is that still good?

00:39:28.000 Yeah, Gucci's still good.

00:39:29.000 Off-White's the biggest brand in the world.

00:39:31.000 Off-white?

00:39:32.000 Off-white right now.

00:39:33.000 Damn.

00:39:34.000 You are a materialist woman's dream.

00:39:36.000 Dolce Gabbana.

00:39:37.000 Oh, dude.

00:39:37.000 A materialist woman's dream.

00:39:39.000 Think about this.

00:39:39.000 You're a big old gorilla of a guy.

00:39:41.000 You got big dick energy.

00:39:43.000 Fat dick.

00:39:43.000 You're right about that.

00:39:44.000 You're a manly man, but yet you're into fashion.

00:39:47.000 And don't suck dick with this jacket on.

00:39:49.000 You don't even want a leopard skin jacket on.

00:39:50.000 Nothing.

00:39:50.000 But the point is that you really do enjoy it, and you're not shy about it.

00:39:54.000 No.

00:39:55.000 Love it.

00:39:55.000 This is what I like.

00:39:57.000 Give me a name of an obscure designer that you really love his work.

00:40:01.000 They really love his work.

00:40:03.000 Mark Mason.

00:40:04.000 See, I think this motherfucker follows, like, women's dresses and shit, too.

00:40:08.000 Yeah, I like it all, man.

00:40:09.000 Like, I'll tell my girl what to wear, or, like, shoes, or, like, I saw Aubrey and Whitney had on it, and Aubrey had this, or I'm sorry, Box and Burn, and Whitney had this Gucci purse.

00:40:19.000 I knew what it was.

00:40:20.000 I was like, that purse is sick.

00:40:21.000 Oh, no!

00:40:22.000 And Tony's like, what the fuck, mate?

00:40:24.000 I'm like, dude, you just don't know what it is.

00:40:26.000 Well, listen, I don't know why.

00:40:28.000 Why did style and aesthetics, why did that become a homosexual activity only?

00:40:34.000 Or a female?

00:40:35.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:40:36.000 It's weird.

00:40:37.000 This is why.

00:40:37.000 Because it is fucking shit.

00:40:39.000 Because sometimes people want to staple a regular shirt on the outside of a t-shirt, pretend it's not retarded.

00:40:44.000 That's not fashion.

00:40:46.000 How many times have you seen Zoolain?

00:40:48.000 A bunch.

00:40:49.000 More than ten?

00:40:50.000 No.

00:40:51.000 Zoolander?

00:40:52.000 Zoolander.

00:40:52.000 I never saw it, but I've seen clips.

00:40:54.000 You've never seen Zoolander?

00:40:55.000 I heard the second one's a bummer.

00:40:57.000 No.

00:40:57.000 You gotta see Zoolander with Brendan.

00:40:59.000 You guys gotta see that shit together.

00:41:00.000 You gotta see that shit together.

00:41:02.000 And smoke weed?

00:41:03.000 Yeah, totally.

00:41:04.000 Dude, I was watching a clip the other day from Tropic Thunder.

00:41:08.000 Oh my god, classic.

00:41:09.000 The greatest movie ever.

00:41:10.000 It's up there.

00:41:11.000 There's two things you can't do ever again after Tropic Thunder.

00:41:16.000 You can't be a white guy wearing blackface And you can't say retard.

00:41:22.000 Simple Jack is done.

00:41:25.000 You couldn't do Simple Jack again.

00:41:26.000 Yeah, but remember, you never go full retard.

00:41:29.000 I mean, that was one of the big lines in the movie.

00:41:31.000 You literally cannot do that today.

00:41:34.000 You can't make fun of playing a person.

00:41:37.000 There's been like four people that have done blackface since this.

00:41:40.000 I mean, a dude from Saturday Night Live.

00:41:42.000 There's a list of them.

00:41:44.000 No, seriously.

00:41:45.000 A major motion picture though?

00:41:47.000 Not a major motion picture, but Saturday Night Live.

00:41:49.000 Okay, listen, even if I'm wrong, like exactly, maybe someone did it afterwards, and culturally, like that is the last big moment.

00:41:57.000 You might be right that other people have done it since then.

00:42:00.000 Let's find out when was the last time someone wore a blackface in a movie.

00:42:04.000 I bet there's an actual number.

00:42:06.000 Dave Chappelle does whiteface all the time.

00:42:07.000 That doesn't count.

00:42:08.000 And Mexican face.

00:42:09.000 No, that was years ago.

00:42:10.000 You're talking about on the Chappelle show?

00:42:11.000 Yeah.

00:42:12.000 That was fucking ten years ago.

00:42:13.000 But it also doesn't count.

00:42:15.000 Whiteface is not the same as blackface.

00:42:18.000 Blackface existed back in the Al Jolson days.

00:42:20.000 You ever see that shit?

00:42:21.000 You ever see like when the minstrel, they put white gloves on.

00:42:25.000 Black dudes, yeah.

00:42:26.000 You ever watch it?

00:42:27.000 No.

00:42:27.000 It's crazy.

00:42:29.000 You're like, what is this?

00:42:31.000 It's weird.

00:42:32.000 Look at that.

00:42:33.000 God, Doug.

00:42:34.000 That is so racist.

00:42:35.000 They have to have white lips.

00:42:37.000 Does that make it official?

00:42:39.000 Without the white lips, he looks just like a regular black guy.

00:42:42.000 They just made his lips look bigger.

00:42:44.000 I mean, that's the whole idea.

00:42:46.000 Really?

00:42:46.000 That's what the white does?

00:42:47.000 100%.

00:42:48.000 Yeah, they're trying to make him have exaggerated looking lips, because in contrast to the black, it looks like lips.

00:42:55.000 Just like when a girl puts lipstick and she outlines it outside of her lips, makes her lips look bigger.

00:43:00.000 That's exactly what these people are doing.

00:43:01.000 So this is what they did, and they wouldn't let black people in the movies.

00:43:05.000 Black people couldn't be like the star of a movie.

00:43:07.000 They had to be a white guy playing a black guy in blackface.

00:43:10.000 Did you see Sean White dressed up as Simple Jack and got roasted for it?

00:43:14.000 Come on.

00:43:16.000 Sean White?

00:43:17.000 Olympic snowboarder?

00:43:18.000 Monster?

00:43:19.000 Gold medalist?

00:43:20.000 X Games?

00:43:21.000 Flying Tomato?

00:43:22.000 You know what's crazy?

00:43:24.000 These days, you can't talk about shit no more.

00:43:26.000 But the gender thing.

00:43:28.000 Isn't there like 60-some genders?

00:43:30.000 There's supposed to be a bunch of different gendered pronouns.

00:43:34.000 Like 60, right?

00:43:35.000 Yeah, but they're not saying there's 60 genders.

00:43:39.000 But what they are saying is they should have the right to dictate what pronoun that you use.

00:43:47.000 Instead of him or her, they want like zur or z.

00:43:50.000 They make up a bunch of these wacky.

00:43:52.000 But how many are there really?

00:43:54.000 There's man, woman.

00:43:57.000 Dude born is man, but woman inside.

00:44:00.000 Woman born woman, but man inside.

00:44:03.000 And then the fifth one might be man who feels like he's man and woman.

00:44:09.000 And maybe there's six or seven.

00:44:11.000 How many...

00:44:13.000 How many are there total?

00:44:14.000 They don't associate with that though.

00:44:15.000 Some of them say they don't associate with that.

00:44:17.000 And then there's asexual, that's seven.

00:44:18.000 Like one guy who doesn't think he's a guy or a girl.

00:44:22.000 But isn't pan you just love to fuck?

00:44:24.000 Pansexual?

00:44:25.000 Pan you just fuck whatever.

00:44:26.000 It's all good.

00:44:28.000 Pansexual.

00:44:29.000 Is there like Monday through Friday, I'm a fucking dude.

00:44:33.000 Saturday, Saturday night, I'm a fucking chick.

00:44:36.000 Yes, gender fluid.

00:44:37.000 Yeah, they go back and forth.

00:44:38.000 I don't know why we give a fuck.

00:44:39.000 On the weekends?

00:44:39.000 Dude, there was a whole Radio Lab podcast.

00:44:41.000 Do what the fuck you want.

00:44:42.000 There was a whole Radio Lab podcast about it.

00:44:44.000 And I was laughing my ass off when I was listening to it because there's parts of it that are so preposterous because there was a guy who would just decide while he's talking that he's a girl.

00:44:53.000 And because this is like a super progressive show, because Radio Lab is this like really well-made, really high-level...

00:44:59.000 Yeah, it's great.

00:45:00.000 Fucking super well edited.

00:45:02.000 They literally can't say this guy might have some problems with his perceptions of reality.

00:45:09.000 This might not just be a gender thing, or maybe it is a gender thing.

00:45:12.000 Or split personalities.

00:45:13.000 Right, but you have to have both options on the table.

00:45:16.000 Like, this guy might be fucking crazy.

00:45:17.000 And if the guy was a man, then you'd just go, oh, I just flipped.

00:45:20.000 I just flipped.

00:45:21.000 I'm the woman now.

00:45:22.000 He needs medication, probably.

00:45:23.000 And then he goes back, he's the man again.

00:45:24.000 I like that.

00:45:25.000 I would do that.

00:45:26.000 But when it comes to gender, here's the thing.

00:45:29.000 Does he get mad?

00:45:30.000 You can't have these thoughts.

00:45:32.000 You can't question.

00:45:35.000 Because I don't know.

00:45:36.000 I'm not him.

00:45:37.000 Maybe that's a thing.

00:45:39.000 Maybe you do just flip back and forth from feeling like you're a guy or feeling like you're a girl.

00:45:43.000 Or maybe that's crazy.

00:45:45.000 That's possible too.

00:45:46.000 It might be fucking crazy.

00:45:47.000 It might be some kind of delusion that's involved.

00:45:50.000 Mental sickness again, maybe.

00:45:51.000 But the thing is, if he wants to do that, I don't give a flying shit.

00:45:54.000 But don't get mad at me if I don't call him or her at the right time.

00:45:59.000 I don't know if he did get mad or she got mad, depending on who she was or he was that day.

00:46:03.000 What percentage...

00:46:04.000 Is there a high rate of suicide for dudes that chop their dicks off?

00:46:11.000 Transgender?

00:46:11.000 50%?

00:46:12.000 I think whether or not they go through the operation, there's still a very high rate of suicide.

00:46:17.000 Yeah, transgender is 50%.

00:46:18.000 But you would think, though, you cut off your dick...

00:46:21.000 You should be on suicide watch, right?

00:46:24.000 I mean, that's huge.

00:46:26.000 It's huge, and I don't think it's a fact that they regret cutting their dicks off, but the hormones.

00:46:32.000 I think that's what fucks with their brains.

00:46:34.000 Because then you're messing with the biological system of your body, right?

00:46:39.000 The chemistry, all that.

00:46:40.000 Hormones, nightmare.

00:46:42.000 If you're a man, but you feel like a woman inside, I'd say just keep your dick.

00:46:48.000 You know what I mean?

00:46:50.000 You chop it off, you're going to lose all those orgasms.

00:46:52.000 Might as well have orgasms.

00:46:54.000 Some do.

00:46:54.000 You can't have orgasms if you chop your dick off.

00:46:56.000 Some do.

00:46:57.000 You go on YouPort and see some chicks with tits with fat dicks.

00:47:00.000 I don't think so.

00:47:01.000 Like fat ass dicks.

00:47:03.000 They keep their dicks.

00:47:03.000 They keep them because that's their pleasure path.

00:47:05.000 Keep them.

00:47:06.000 Keep them.

00:47:06.000 You're gonna get rid of your orgasm?

00:47:08.000 Unless you're born with like a deformed dick.

00:47:11.000 Oh my god, dude, we're missing the craziest girl TKO of all time.

00:47:14.000 This girl is getting smashed.

00:47:16.000 Barber.

00:47:17.000 Doing some cut.

00:47:18.000 That's fake blood.

00:47:19.000 Dropping some horrific bombs down.

00:47:21.000 Oh, my God.

00:47:22.000 These girls are...

00:47:23.000 Oh, my God.

00:47:24.000 Big elbow.

00:47:24.000 This referee is...

00:47:25.000 Goddamn.

00:47:25.000 Ref, get in there, bro.

00:47:26.000 Let's over, kid.

00:47:27.000 Damn.

00:47:28.000 She got blasted.

00:47:29.000 Damn, that referee let her take some shots.

00:47:32.000 Hey, it's a fight game.

00:47:33.000 Yep.

00:47:33.000 That's what you're getting paid for.

00:47:35.000 Goddamn.

00:47:35.000 That was wild.

00:47:36.000 She got blood and a powerful on it shirt.

00:47:38.000 Powerful on it.

00:47:39.000 Nice, man.

00:47:40.000 Shout out in the audience.

00:47:41.000 Shout out.

00:47:43.000 Oh, I see Birdman back there, too.

00:47:44.000 What were we just saying?

00:47:45.000 Remember Birdman?

00:47:46.000 What were we just saying?

00:47:48.000 We're talking about chicks with dicks.

00:47:52.000 Don't cut it off.

00:47:53.000 Keep it.

00:47:55.000 It's fun.

00:47:56.000 Mix it up.

00:47:57.000 There's plenty of dudes who will suck it.

00:47:58.000 You know what I mean?

00:47:59.000 Probably, yeah.

00:48:00.000 That's probably a big number.

00:48:01.000 Go to Germany.

00:48:03.000 Germany?

00:48:03.000 You go to Germany, West Hollywood up the street.

00:48:05.000 But the question is, like, do they get suicidal because they're not accepted early in life?

00:48:10.000 That's the real question because this is what a lot of the thought is, is that they develop their self-esteem when they're very young.

00:48:17.000 And if they're very young and they're a boy and they wish they were a girl and then they get picked on for that or they get fucked with for that.

00:48:24.000 That becomes like this very awful connection with this terrible memory and this terrible feeling that you feel around people who hate you just because you're different.

00:48:37.000 And then who you are as an adult.

00:48:39.000 And then who knows what else comes into play there, right?

00:48:43.000 Um, you know alcohol and drugs.

00:48:44.000 But also hate crimes on transgenders through the fucking roof, man.

00:48:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:48:48.000 Like even Kristen Beck, who's a former Navy SEAL, and now she, you know, she's a woman, she takes hormones, but I don't think, she doesn't chop her dick off.

00:48:57.000 We're talking about a Navy SEAL who killed a ton of fucking people.

00:49:00.000 She was saying she was walking down the street and some guys came up behind her and hit her over the head with a bottle just for being transgender.

00:49:06.000 Knocked her out on the street.

00:49:08.000 Jesus Christ.

00:49:09.000 Fucking terrible, man.

00:49:10.000 Yeah.

00:49:12.000 Yeah, man.

00:49:13.000 There's just a lot of people that are developed in a really fucked up way.

00:49:21.000 They've just seen too many awful things.

00:49:24.000 Bad childhood and drugs.

00:49:25.000 Think about all the people in this country right now that are growing up in horrible neighborhoods.

00:49:31.000 And what's going to happen out of them?

00:49:33.000 What's going to happen to these people?

00:49:35.000 When you read these stories about Chicago and parts of the South Side of Chicago where they're just shootings like a hundred in a weekend, that kind of crazy shit.

00:49:45.000 You lived in a place like that like someone was there was a comic who said something I Apologize I forgot who it was who said something like this on Twitter about how you get He's a black comic too.

00:49:58.000 He was saying that PTSD is not just for soldiers like you get it when you grow up in the hood You see a lot of shit that you shouldn't you shouldn't see you're around a lot of violence Around a lot of crime.

00:50:11.000 You're going to grow up with a different perspective of the world.

00:50:13.000 Yeah, and you could grow up a little fucking shell-shocked.

00:50:16.000 I mean, that's a crazy way to develop, you know?

00:50:24.000 Super crazy.

00:50:26.000 Well, thank God for all these pills that you could take.

00:50:29.000 I don't know if those are the answer, are they?

00:50:31.000 Aren't they?

00:50:32.000 But are they the answer for some people sometimes?

00:50:34.000 I think, yeah.

00:50:35.000 Yeah, some, yeah.

00:50:36.000 I think some people are hanging on by a thread.

00:50:38.000 They're hanging on by a thread, and someone comes along, and they offer them a chemical escape.

00:50:45.000 From just the fucking sheer misery of being alive, and then it puts them in a place where they can think about things.

00:50:51.000 Does it?

00:50:52.000 Where they can think about it?

00:50:53.000 Because when you hear like Neil Brennan, one of the fucking most brilliant comedian minds out there, right?

00:50:59.000 Wrote for a Chappelle show, brilliant comic, has a special on Netflix, three mics.

00:51:03.000 Brilliant.

00:51:04.000 And he talks about how...

00:51:07.000 When he takes those pills, the prescriptions, he doesn't get high, doesn't get low.

00:51:13.000 It's just he's going through it.

00:51:15.000 You talked about his accomplishments.

00:51:17.000 He's like, yeah, it does nothing.

00:51:18.000 I don't feel anything.

00:51:19.000 They don't feel anything.

00:51:22.000 That's terrible.

00:51:22.000 It's a weird way to go.

00:51:23.000 Well, you know, depression, again, like what we were talking about earlier, it's on a spectrum.

00:51:28.000 Just like mental illness, just like all kinds of other different things that occur in people.

00:51:33.000 Yeah, because everyone deals with depression.

00:51:35.000 Like, we've all been depressed in it, but some people it sticks.

00:51:37.000 Like, you can't get out of it.

00:51:38.000 How about an anti-conspiracy theory pill?

00:51:42.000 You could take a blue pill.

00:51:43.000 Like, on the weekends, you don't want to think about false flags or nothing.

00:51:47.000 You just go out and just have fun and...

00:51:50.000 Dude, Ari Shafir used, this is why I have this opinion on this, Ari Shafir used antidepressants correctly, and he had to try a couple different kinds and figure out which one really worked for him, but once he did, it helped him.

00:52:06.000 I saw it helped.

00:52:07.000 And he's a happy guy.

00:52:08.000 He turned his life around.

00:52:10.000 He got on the antidepressants, and he talks about this openly.

00:52:14.000 He got successful too, though, right?

00:52:16.000 He got successful as well.

00:52:18.000 Is he still on them?

00:52:19.000 But who knows what came first, the chicken or the egg?

00:52:21.000 No, he weaned himself off of them.

00:52:22.000 But he got on them, and they helped him.

00:52:26.000 Why did he have to wean himself off if they helped?

00:52:28.000 Because he didn't think that he needed them anymore.

00:52:31.000 He thought that he was leaning on them as a crutch and he would kind of reset his mind.

00:52:36.000 And change your way of thinking.

00:52:37.000 Yeah.

00:52:37.000 And he and I talked about it.

00:52:40.000 I'm trying to remember exactly how he put it.

00:52:45.000 But essentially it was what he was saying.

00:52:46.000 I got another one of these Olympias.

00:52:47.000 That Olympia.

00:52:48.000 Yeah, that tasty-ass Olympia.

00:52:50.000 Shit's delicious.

00:52:53.000 There's something about beer in a can.

00:52:55.000 I don't know what it is.

00:52:56.000 My mouth was watering.

00:52:58.000 Like a crackhead.

00:52:59.000 Yeah, beer in a can.

00:53:01.000 Yeah, but with Ari, it's like success will make you happy.

00:53:04.000 Like, yeah, fuck, I'm killing it, man.

00:53:05.000 Ari's killing it.

00:53:06.000 He's killing it.

00:53:07.000 And I'm sure that had something to do with it.

00:53:09.000 But I think that can't be discounted.

00:53:12.000 I think there's a lot of things going on.

00:53:14.000 Depression is like a lot of other things.

00:53:16.000 It's hard to narrow things down, plus or minus, and thinking that it's one thing that's causing you to be happy or one thing that's causing you to be sad.

00:53:25.000 It's very likely there's a bunch of different shit going on.

00:53:29.000 Yeah, you gotta remind yourself every day of how lucky you are.

00:53:33.000 It's tough.

00:53:34.000 It's tough to do, man.

00:53:35.000 It's fucking tough.

00:53:35.000 It's almost unrealistic.

00:53:37.000 Not really.

00:53:38.000 Not really.

00:53:38.000 You could do it.

00:53:39.000 It's just like working out.

00:53:42.000 You know what I mean?

00:53:42.000 It's the same thing.

00:53:43.000 You could put yourself an hour, hour and a half thinking one way.

00:53:46.000 I'm gonna work out.

00:53:47.000 I'm gonna fucking focus on getting stronger today.

00:53:51.000 Focus on the reps and all the sets and my routine.

00:53:54.000 You apply that.

00:53:56.000 Just for 15 minutes, just think about all the shit you've accomplished.

00:54:00.000 Think about the money you have.

00:54:02.000 Think about how lucky you are that you don't live in fucking Liberia or Guatemala or some shit.

00:54:08.000 You could be in that caravan right now with a backpack throwing rocks.

00:54:11.000 You know what I mean?

00:54:12.000 And that's the real shit though.

00:54:15.000 That's not an illusion.

00:54:17.000 The real shit is that you should be thankful.

00:54:20.000 The fake shit is not being thankful.

00:54:22.000 That's the fake shit.

00:54:23.000 That's the illusion.

00:54:25.000 It's just not being...

00:54:26.000 You're so caught up in your daily life, stuff like that.

00:54:28.000 No, but you know what I mean?

00:54:29.000 You know how quickly you would appreciate your life if you got framed for murder right now?

00:54:33.000 Just right now?

00:54:34.000 Jesus Christ.

00:54:34.000 All of a sudden, your life would be a thousand times better.

00:54:36.000 I had a little bit of scare with my son, and it was like nothing else mattered.

00:54:41.000 Yes, exactly.

00:54:42.000 Once that happened, I was like, dude, take my career, take this purple fucking Porsche, whatever you want, man.

00:54:47.000 Just make him...

00:54:49.000 I was like, yeah, no.

00:54:50.000 You have a purple portrait for real?

00:54:51.000 Yeah.

00:54:51.000 I'm like, please make sure he's okay.

00:54:52.000 I don't give a shit.

00:54:53.000 Yeah.

00:54:55.000 Damn, of course.

00:54:56.000 Like, if you found out you had five minutes to live...

00:54:59.000 All you would think about is your kid.

00:55:01.000 That's all you would think about.

00:55:03.000 Well, I just got evacuated.

00:55:05.000 I got evacuated from my house because of the fires.

00:55:07.000 Yeah, you're in the thick of it.

00:55:09.000 They're everywhere.

00:55:10.000 Especially where you're at, brother.

00:55:12.000 They're everywhere.

00:55:14.000 They evacuated Thousand Oaks, and they evacuated places in Westlake.

00:55:19.000 Malibu.

00:55:20.000 Segura's out.

00:55:21.000 Apparently this fire that we have here is nothing in comparison to the fire that's in upstate.

00:55:26.000 What?

00:55:26.000 That's further up.

00:55:28.000 The Northern California fire is supposed to be even more severe.

00:55:31.000 They were saying the Northern California fire was moving at, what was the number?

00:55:35.000 It was something insane, like 80 football fields a minute.

00:55:38.000 Holy shit.

00:55:39.000 They labeled it the biggest fire in California ever.

00:55:41.000 The biggest fire in California ever.

00:55:42.000 Going on right now, Northern California?

00:55:43.000 It's in Northern California.

00:55:44.000 You know what's crazy is how damaged cars are getting.

00:55:49.000 They're like...

00:55:50.000 Melting.

00:55:51.000 The cars are melting.

00:55:52.000 The videos are insane.

00:55:53.000 I saw a video of this bus.

00:55:54.000 This bus that looked like it was bombed.

00:55:57.000 How are fires doing that?

00:55:59.000 Do we know how it started?

00:56:00.000 I don't know, man.

00:56:00.000 It's always the worst when it's like some fucking asshole started it.

00:56:04.000 I don't know.

00:56:04.000 I don't know if they know yet.

00:56:05.000 Some prick.

00:56:06.000 I don't know if they know yet.

00:56:07.000 Direct energy weapons.

00:56:08.000 God.

00:56:08.000 It happened right outside of Rocketdyne.

00:56:13.000 That's where it happened.

00:56:15.000 It's like a rocket factory.

00:56:17.000 Have you seen those pictures of the cars where their rims are melted?

00:56:21.000 How hot do forest fires get?

00:56:24.000 They get hot as fuck.

00:56:25.000 How is steel melting?

00:56:28.000 A lot of aluminum.

00:56:29.000 It's a lot of aluminum wheels.

00:56:30.000 The frame doesn't melt, which is steel.

00:56:32.000 A lot of people have aluminum wheels, right?

00:56:35.000 A hundred percent, yeah.

00:56:36.000 Regular fire melts aluminum?

00:56:38.000 Just a regular fire will melt aluminum?

00:56:40.000 You think it's something else, Eddie?

00:56:41.000 Your tires are gonna light up.

00:56:43.000 You know me, dude.

00:56:44.000 You asking me?

00:56:45.000 You asking me?

00:56:46.000 Do I think it's something else?

00:56:47.000 Think about who you're talking to right now.

00:56:49.000 Think about who this is.

00:56:50.000 You got a couple factors here that I would just take into account not being a fire expert.

00:56:53.000 But one of them I think would be tires.

00:56:55.000 Tires are super flammable.

00:56:57.000 Once your tires catch fire, they're all made out of rubber and all kinds of other plastics and shit like that.

00:57:03.000 Tires are flammable?

00:57:04.000 They hold the fire there.

00:57:05.000 They're not just fucking flammable.

00:57:06.000 They go black smoke.

00:57:08.000 It's a crazy smoke.

00:57:09.000 All right.

00:57:09.000 That's why the cartel use them when they kill people.

00:57:11.000 They put them in because it fucking keeps them.

00:57:13.000 Don't they douse them with lighter fluid and that kind of shit?

00:57:16.000 I don't know.

00:57:17.000 The other thing I was going to say is gasoline.

00:57:19.000 Cars are fueled by gasoline.

00:57:21.000 You got gasoline there.

00:57:22.000 You got fire.

00:57:23.000 You got insane heat.

00:57:25.000 The whole car gets engulfed.

00:57:27.000 The gas tank erupts.

00:57:29.000 You got fucking...

00:57:30.000 Temperatures that are like, it's like basically having an inferno right there.

00:57:34.000 It's not like, it's not a fire like, oh, a fucking phone book caught on fire and it melted a wheel.

00:57:40.000 No, it's like a giant combustion engine that works on gasoline and has these rubber, super flammable tires and is covered by a plastic paint that's probably super fucking flammable.

00:57:54.000 And this shit all gets hit.

00:57:56.000 Inside's leather.

00:57:58.000 With fire that's coming from 50 mile an hour winds.

00:58:01.000 They're fire machines.

00:58:02.000 And then what about the registration?

00:58:06.000 What?

00:58:08.000 I'm just trying to be funny over here.

00:58:10.000 I'm sorry.

00:58:11.000 I thought you were serious.

00:58:12.000 Look at these cars.

00:58:13.000 These cars got murked.

00:58:15.000 This is like what happened when the Hulk met Loki on the Avengers.

00:58:21.000 How did the windows get broken?

00:58:23.000 They fucking destroyed Eddie.

00:58:25.000 The heat makes them shatter.

00:58:26.000 They fall apart.

00:58:28.000 If you ever get a glass too hot, you ever have a glass get too hot?

00:58:32.000 Fuck no.

00:58:32.000 If you pour tea in a regular glass, they crack.

00:58:36.000 They're not ready for that.

00:58:37.000 So that's not even that hot.

00:58:39.000 Because the tea makes them expand the heat from the tea.

00:58:43.000 You're not buying it, huh, Eddie?

00:58:44.000 I don't know, man.

00:58:45.000 These fires are weird.

00:58:46.000 This is what I would suggest.

00:58:47.000 Don't look into it.

00:58:48.000 Yeah.

00:58:49.000 Just don't look into it.

00:58:51.000 I don't trust shit.

00:58:51.000 You know me.

00:58:52.000 Are you affected by the fires that are true?

00:58:55.000 If CNN, if the headline says...

00:58:58.000 Anything.

00:58:58.000 I don't believe it.

00:58:59.000 Any CNN. Okay.

00:59:01.000 Anything.

00:59:01.000 That's true, Eddie.

00:59:02.000 That's true, Eddie.

00:59:03.000 But here's the beautiful thing about this fire.

00:59:04.000 You can fucking see it.

00:59:05.000 You don't have to wonder whether or not it's a...

00:59:06.000 No, I'm not saying there's no fire.

00:59:08.000 I'm just saying like...

00:59:09.000 How it started?

00:59:09.000 But this is what we're talking about.

00:59:10.000 We're talking about this fire.

00:59:11.000 Okay?

00:59:12.000 No, there's a fire for sure.

00:59:13.000 There's a giant fire.

00:59:13.000 I see the smoke.

00:59:14.000 So what do you think is happening?

00:59:15.000 I don't know.

00:59:16.000 There's some crazy people out there saying that...

00:59:20.000 They're being started by some fucking direct energy weapons.

00:59:24.000 I don't know.

00:59:24.000 That's what the crazy people are saying.

00:59:26.000 Well, fires happen all the time, though.

00:59:27.000 It's kind of a natural occurrence.

00:59:30.000 What's more likely?

00:59:31.000 That fires are happening like they always fucking happen, from electric boxes going out, or wires going down, or people being assholes with cigarettes.

00:59:42.000 That's how, before there was Illuminati, before there was anything, there was forest fires.

00:59:48.000 They've been around forever.

00:59:49.000 This is not like a new occurrence.

00:59:50.000 It's not like they're using this secret energy weapon to do some shit that's never been done before.

00:59:55.000 How dumb would their super energy weapon if they use it to start fires?

00:59:58.000 There's just a lot of weird shit out there, like houses, like you can see, house, house, house, completely leveled, and all the trees around them, nothing wrong with the trees at all.

01:00:07.000 Weird.

01:00:08.000 Just weird shit like that.

01:00:09.000 Well, it's probably easier for the fire to make...

01:00:13.000 Fucking houses go up in flames because it's all dry old shit.

01:00:17.000 It's a dry old wood.

01:00:19.000 You got dry old shit on the roof.

01:00:21.000 The tiles.

01:00:22.000 A lot of times these people have these roofing tiles and the embers get in between there.

01:00:28.000 It goes right into the tar.

01:00:29.000 It burns it.

01:00:30.000 It goes right through your...

01:00:31.000 My next door neighbor, his roof was on fire.

01:00:33.000 God.

01:00:34.000 We don't need no water.

01:00:35.000 We don't need no water.

01:00:36.000 Done.

01:00:37.000 No, they got to it in time.

01:00:40.000 The firefighters caught it.

01:00:41.000 Actually, my friend Bud caught it, told the firefighters.

01:00:43.000 Shout out to Bud.

01:00:44.000 Bud Brutzman?

01:00:45.000 Bud Brutzman, yeah.

01:00:46.000 His house?

01:00:47.000 No, no, no.

01:00:47.000 It wasn't his house.

01:00:48.000 But it was my neighbor's house.

01:00:50.000 So when this was all going down, this is happening all throughout, not just here, but all throughout Topanga now, and Malibu, and these embers fall from the sky, and then they, poof, they light everything up in flames, because everywhere you look, everything is dry as fuck.

01:01:06.000 It's dry as shit right now.

01:01:07.000 We haven't had any rain in a long-ass time.

01:01:09.000 If you go running in the trails, it's just dust.

01:01:12.000 You're kicking up dust.

01:01:15.000 You start coughing.

01:01:15.000 And then you got the winds.

01:01:16.000 All the grass.

01:01:18.000 That spreads all of it.

01:01:18.000 Everything's brown and dried out.

01:01:20.000 It's science, Eddie.

01:01:21.000 And when these embers fall from the sky and hit this shit, it just starts up.

01:01:25.000 We're just lucky it doesn't happen more often.

01:01:27.000 In fact, though, it happened this time last year around here because we had ash out in the gym area.

01:01:35.000 We had to sweep the ash out because it had actually come in through cracks.

01:01:39.000 Like little tiny cracks.

01:01:41.000 Dude, I've ash all the way in my house from this fire all the way where I'm at.

01:01:44.000 I'm sure.

01:01:45.000 I'm sure.

01:01:46.000 It's no joke, dude.

01:01:46.000 No, it's some serious shit.

01:01:48.000 This fire's massive.

01:01:48.000 So, I don't think it's an energy wave.

01:01:51.000 But I do think it's fucking super dangerous to live in a climate where there's this much vegetation and not enough moisture.

01:01:59.000 Like, how come we can't figure out how to get that fucking water out of the ocean and start spraying it all over the plants?

01:02:05.000 There's so much water in the ocean, bro.

01:02:07.000 There's so much water, you're not using it at all.

01:02:09.000 You know what?

01:02:10.000 There's salt in it.

01:02:11.000 We can't fuck with it.

01:02:12.000 We can't fuck with that salt.

01:02:13.000 I feel like they can take the salt out.

01:02:15.000 We still can't fuck with the salt.

01:02:17.000 No, no, no.

01:02:17.000 They have desalination plants.

01:02:19.000 They're just super expensive.

01:02:20.000 Yeah, it's too expensive.

01:02:20.000 We can't afford that.

01:02:21.000 They say the almond.

01:02:22.000 The almond factor.

01:02:24.000 If we had more money, we'd be able to do that.

01:02:26.000 But it's too expensive.

01:02:27.000 The almond plants want the ocean water?

01:02:29.000 No, they use all our water.

01:02:31.000 If we got rid of almonds in California, it would be straight.

01:02:33.000 Whoa.

01:02:34.000 Imagine if vegans consumed more almonds and then they were...

01:02:38.000 They're the reason why?

01:02:40.000 Imagine how ironic that would be.

01:02:42.000 Those almonds that we're doing us in the whole time.

01:02:44.000 It's not cattle raising.

01:02:47.000 It's fucking almonds.

01:02:47.000 Is there a country rich enough to filter the salt out of water and use the water for their country?

01:02:54.000 It's just too expensive, right?

01:02:56.000 I bet Dubai could do that shit.

01:02:57.000 No, they don't have that much money.

01:02:59.000 We do it tomorrow.

01:03:00.000 No, it's too expensive.

01:03:02.000 You know how hard it is?

01:03:04.000 They would roll out a carpet made of gold.

01:03:06.000 The dude would slide on a gold surfboard.

01:03:08.000 Sipping that fucking salt free water switch for the fat.

01:03:11.000 Like for the Navy, there's like a survivor filter that you could drink the seawater and you could like suck and it's like this filter, this survival thing.

01:03:18.000 I don't know about that for seawater.

01:03:20.000 I know they have those things for ponds.

01:03:23.000 They have these things, they're called SteriPens.

01:03:25.000 They just can't figure out that seawater.

01:03:28.000 I just can't figure that out.

01:03:29.000 What's the high salt content?

01:03:30.000 Too expensive.

01:03:31.000 You can't have that much salt content in your water.

01:03:33.000 It's a shitload of salt.

01:03:34.000 It fucks you up, man.

01:03:35.000 What if we have a salt water tax?

01:03:37.000 You know what I mean?

01:03:38.000 We're running out of water.

01:03:39.000 We've got to figure out how to take the salt out of the seawater.

01:03:43.000 I don't think this is a...

01:03:44.000 Eddie, we have plenty of fresh water, though.

01:03:47.000 I don't think this is a conspiracy.

01:03:48.000 No, you just said, how come they can't just take the fucking ocean water and...

01:03:52.000 But I was just being funny.

01:03:54.000 I'll tell you why they can't.

01:03:55.000 It's fucking super expensive.

01:03:57.000 It's too expensive.

01:03:58.000 Just transport it.

01:03:58.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:03:59.000 It's too expensive.

01:04:00.000 We don't have that kind of money.

01:04:01.000 We cost so much money to change the water and to do it all the time for all the people.

01:04:06.000 Just pull that water out and then who owns it?

01:04:09.000 Maybe if we bring some coke in from Central America and we generate income that way.

01:04:14.000 Imagine if we started sucking all the stuff out of the ocean and the ocean started pushing back and the people started building houses in front of the people's houses in Malibu.

01:04:22.000 At first they would protest.

01:04:24.000 At first they would go, fuck you!

01:04:26.000 We have the beach!

01:04:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's not the beach anymore.

01:04:28.000 So basically, you just got an acre.

01:04:31.000 Someone goes right in front of him.

01:04:32.000 A mile to the beach, bitch.

01:04:33.000 Just keep sucking water out.

01:04:35.000 Yeah, imagine if there's like a mile to the beach now.

01:04:37.000 And all these Malibu people, they show up at the fucking county board meetings.

01:04:40.000 Stop pulling the water out of the ocean!

01:04:43.000 He'd turn around behind him.

01:04:44.000 It's a goddamn tropical jungle.

01:04:45.000 We got monkeys in LA and fucking parrots and shit.

01:04:48.000 I'm not mad at it, man.

01:04:50.000 We turn it into the tropics.

01:04:52.000 We make it moist and delicious.

01:04:55.000 That would happen.

01:04:56.000 Darius is a beast.

01:04:57.000 I'm going to do a fight real quick.

01:04:59.000 Darius is a monster.

01:05:00.000 Yeah, he is a beast.

01:05:01.000 He's just fallen on hard times a little bit.

01:05:03.000 He was ranked fucking high for a while.

01:05:04.000 He's a very good fighter.

01:05:06.000 Yeah, he's so good at everything, man.

01:05:07.000 He's just had some tough matchups.

01:05:09.000 He had a tough loss, right, his last fight?

01:05:11.000 Yeah, he's fallen on some hard times.

01:05:14.000 Who stopped him?

01:05:14.000 He lost Michael Johnson recently, but I forget who his last one was.

01:05:17.000 Jamie, can you pull up Benil Darius's...

01:05:20.000 He had a tough fight.

01:05:21.000 Black belt on the ground, amazing fucking striking.

01:05:25.000 I do not know much about this Moises guy.

01:05:28.000 Me neither.

01:05:29.000 Is that how you say his name?

01:05:30.000 Moises?

01:05:32.000 Oh, Tiago Moises.

01:05:33.000 He's from ATT. He fought in EBI, combat jiu-jitsu.

01:05:36.000 Oh, no shit.

01:05:37.000 How good is he?

01:05:39.000 It was hard to tell from one match, but he's a black belt.

01:05:43.000 He's from American Top Team, so he's got to be a fucking beast.

01:05:46.000 Look at that.

01:05:46.000 A guillotine right there.

01:05:48.000 Boom.

01:05:48.000 Daesh is a black belt.

01:05:49.000 Look at that.

01:05:49.000 He jumped right into a guillotine.

01:05:51.000 Look at that.

01:05:51.000 That's tight.

01:05:52.000 That's a deep one.

01:05:53.000 Oh, shit.

01:05:55.000 Daesh is going to be tough to cement.

01:05:57.000 Wow.

01:05:58.000 That was tight, though.

01:05:59.000 He got KO'd by Edson Barboza.

01:06:01.000 That's what we're thinking about.

01:06:02.000 Yeah, that's exactly what I'm thinking about.

01:06:03.000 He got KO'd by a flying knee, and then Alexander Hernandez, in his last fight, KO'd him with punches.

01:06:08.000 But he's beat some good guys like James Vick.

01:06:10.000 He knocked out.

01:06:11.000 Oh, shit.

01:06:12.000 Look at that.

01:06:13.000 Tiago Moises.

01:06:14.000 He's going for it.

01:06:15.000 He's going for it.

01:06:15.000 It's going to be fucking tough to submit him.

01:06:17.000 It's going to be, but man, I think Chiesa took his back and strangled him.

01:06:21.000 Yeah.

01:06:22.000 Dude, I loved Chiesa at 70. Yeah, he did.

01:06:25.000 He did, right?

01:06:25.000 Yeah.

01:06:26.000 Just at 70, it's going to be trouble for people.

01:06:28.000 I think he just was killing himself, making that weight.

01:06:31.000 He's too big for 55. Whenever I'm hanging around him, he's a wide fella, sturdy fella.

01:06:37.000 Big dude, big frame.

01:06:38.000 He's going to be really good at 70. He's going to give guys problems.

01:06:41.000 I was doing commentary with Paul Felder, and I'm standing next to Paul Felder, and I'm thinking, how the fuck are you 155 pounds?

01:06:48.000 That's nuts.

01:06:48.000 That is ridiculous.

01:06:49.000 That's ridiculous.

01:06:50.000 You're not 155 pounds.

01:06:51.000 He gets mad too.

01:06:52.000 People say, you know, this guy over here, he's 200 pounds.

01:06:54.000 Hey, I was 192 last Tuesday.

01:06:57.000 He'll get upset.

01:06:58.000 That's hilarious.

01:06:59.000 If you try to gain an extra 8 or 10 pounds on him, he's just a big lightweight.

01:07:04.000 He's a big boy.

01:07:05.000 He's a powerhouse.

01:07:06.000 And think about it.

01:07:07.000 That was Mike Perry's last fight, last win.

01:07:09.000 Mike Perry kind of outclassed him.

01:07:11.000 Well, what happened was he bounced his forearm off of Mike Perry's head early on in the fight.

01:07:17.000 He spinned and backfisted him and hit him with this part of the forearm right in the forehead and snapped his arm in half.

01:07:24.000 Broke his arm?

01:07:24.000 So he's fighting with one arm.

01:07:25.000 And he fought like that for three rounds.

01:07:27.000 Jesus.

01:07:27.000 But he couldn't wrestle, okay?

01:07:29.000 So he couldn't shoot takedowns or do anything with his right arm.

01:07:31.000 He punched him with it a bunch of times, even though it was still broken.

01:07:35.000 And he was trying to punch with his leg.

01:07:37.000 It was in fucking agony.

01:07:38.000 It's not just about power, right?

01:07:39.000 It's about knowing that this shit doesn't work anymore, and you're going to try to pretend...

01:07:43.000 And you got a guy trying to rip your head off.

01:07:45.000 Mike Perry's a monster.

01:07:47.000 And Mike Perry's a super strong 170. He's a beast.

01:07:49.000 He's super aggressive.

01:07:50.000 He comes at you real hard.

01:07:52.000 He takes a tremendous shot.

01:07:54.000 He's got a fucking iron chin and horrifying knockout power.

01:07:58.000 It's a tough matchup for Cowboy.

01:07:59.000 The Jay Kellenberger elbow, that elbow he came out of it with, you're like, Jesus.

01:08:02.000 I know.

01:08:02.000 He's got real power.

01:08:05.000 Another guillotine.

01:08:06.000 But Paul Felder was kind of Mike Perry's first win where he's technical and stayed on the outside.

01:08:11.000 Hanging on that neck.

01:08:12.000 Yeah.

01:08:12.000 And then before that though, Alan Joban beat him.

01:08:15.000 It was super technical.

01:08:16.000 Well, I think the move to Jackson's had a giant impact on him.

01:08:20.000 Because what I saw in his last fight, I saw him manage distance much better and pace.

01:08:25.000 He wasn't just like a marauding psycho going after him.

01:08:29.000 Throwing feints.

01:08:29.000 He's mixing it up.

01:08:30.000 Angles.

01:08:31.000 He was not just mixing it up.

01:08:31.000 It was like very good footwork as well.

01:08:33.000 It was very technical.

01:08:34.000 So I think he's adding a lot more technique and strategy to what he already had.

01:08:39.000 The power.

01:08:40.000 Serious power and serious aggression.

01:08:42.000 And he had skills already.

01:08:44.000 It's not like he couldn't punch.

01:08:45.000 It's not like he couldn't...

01:08:46.000 No, but he was kind of one-dimensional a little bit.

01:08:48.000 But just so wild, so reckless, and so, so hungry to fuck you up.

01:08:53.000 Which will beat a lot of guys to get to a certain level.

01:08:55.000 Right.

01:08:55.000 And they can deal with it.

01:08:56.000 But kudos to him for recognizing that.

01:08:58.000 Oh, brilliant, yeah.

01:08:59.000 And then making some adjustments.

01:09:00.000 And I think he definitely did make an adjustment in that Felder fight.

01:09:03.000 He looked amazing.

01:09:03.000 So it was on him, he made the adjustment, and he obviously put in the work and looked great, and it was also on Felder breaking his arm pretty early on in the fight.

01:09:13.000 But even before he broke his arm, Perry was getting the better of the exchanges.

01:09:17.000 He was more dangerous.

01:09:19.000 There was more consequences.

01:09:21.000 He's a fucking scary knockout artist.

01:09:25.000 Stylistic-wise for Cowboy, it's a tough fight, man.

01:09:28.000 We both think that Cowboy's at his best when he doesn't have to fight guys that are that much bigger than him.

01:09:38.000 A real aggressive guy is tough with Cowboy.

01:09:40.000 I would rather see him at 155 than see him fight Darren Till again.

01:09:44.000 There was something about seeing him with Darren Till where you see how big Darren is at 170. He's fucking big, man.

01:09:50.000 He's big.

01:09:51.000 He even talked about going to 85. And he's going to 85 now.

01:09:54.000 And you look at him with Cowboy.

01:09:55.000 He went back on that.

01:09:56.000 He changed his mind again?

01:09:57.000 Yeah, he's like, I think he would go back to 70. Because he was going to fight Askren at 70. But then they gave Askren Robbie Lawler.

01:10:03.000 Oh.

01:10:04.000 Well, both fights I love.

01:10:06.000 But, you know, that guy's just so, he was so much bigger than Cowboy.

01:10:10.000 He was so much bigger.

01:10:11.000 Way bigger.

01:10:11.000 When you looked at him in there, I mean, he looked like he was two weight classes bigger.

01:10:15.000 At least one weight class bigger.

01:10:16.000 At least on the upper end of the next weight class.

01:10:19.000 Lawler makes sense.

01:10:20.000 What are you talking about?

01:10:21.000 Fuck yeah.

01:10:21.000 How does it not make sense?

01:10:23.000 You don't think it makes sense?

01:10:24.000 No, it doesn't make sense.

01:10:24.000 He's going to be hard to take down and he's fucking vicious with his face.

01:10:28.000 That's a perfect fight.

01:10:29.000 So the night of the fight, I dig it.

01:10:31.000 But the thing that makes Ben Askren special too is his mouth, his mind game.

01:10:36.000 So Robbie's not going to play that game.

01:10:38.000 He doesn't have a dance partner.

01:10:39.000 That's what makes it great.

01:10:42.000 What is he gonna do?

01:10:43.000 This is the fashion lover in you talking?

01:10:46.000 No, no.

01:10:47.000 This is the Dana White me talking.

01:10:50.000 This is the moneymaker me.

01:10:51.000 Your boy's the exact same way.

01:10:52.000 Let me hear.

01:10:53.000 Because if you give Ben Askren, who can talk fucking right up there with the best we got, man.

01:10:58.000 If you give him a guy, you name anybody.

01:11:02.000 Anyone in the in the fight game, and he goes back and forth, it's gonna be great.

01:11:05.000 You can have Colby Cumminton, who's a shit talker.

01:11:07.000 Yes.

01:11:07.000 The fans are gonna be able to gravitate towards that and see the story.

01:11:10.000 This is the first fight.

01:11:11.000 This is the first fight.

01:11:12.000 This is only one fight.

01:11:13.000 It's a big fight.

01:11:14.000 But Robbie Lawler is a great matchup physically.

01:11:17.000 The shit talking aside, you're right with the shit talking for sure.

01:11:20.000 X's and O's, amazing fight night.

01:11:22.000 Love the fight.

01:11:23.000 The physicality of the fight, is that a word?

01:11:26.000 Probably.

01:11:27.000 I like it.

01:11:28.000 I'll tell you.

01:11:29.000 Jamie, you got an A, right?

01:11:31.000 Physicality?

01:11:31.000 That's a word.

01:11:32.000 Yeah, it seems right.

01:11:34.000 Come on, man.

01:11:34.000 That's the perfect...

01:11:36.000 No, no.

01:11:36.000 Hold on.

01:11:36.000 It's not going to be easy for Ben.

01:11:38.000 That's going to be a hard fight for Ben.

01:11:40.000 Every fight is easy for him.

01:11:42.000 He just grabs everybody and fucking manhandles them.

01:11:45.000 Except for the Russian guy.

01:11:46.000 I'm saying to take full advantage of what Ben Askren brings to the table, Robbie Lawl is not the matchup I would give him off the bat.

01:11:53.000 I would have gave him a Darren Till or a Colby Covington, something like that, who will verbally go back and forth with him.

01:11:58.000 You've got to build up to that.

01:11:59.000 Ben Askren's been in the game too long.

01:12:01.000 I understand what you're saying.

01:12:02.000 But the night of the fight?

01:12:03.000 Amazing fight.

01:12:04.000 I think you just want to see the fight.

01:12:06.000 I don't think we should ever make decisions based on shit talking and encouraging shit talking.

01:12:13.000 I think what's interesting about Ben Askren is Ben Askren.

01:12:15.000 I want to see what the fuck he can do to a real former world champion who's fought at the highest level.

01:12:22.000 That's a great matchup.

01:12:24.000 I'm with you guys.

01:12:25.000 I don't want to hear any nonsense about whether he talks back.

01:12:29.000 No one's going to give a shit.

01:12:30.000 Look, Ben Askren, when he was at the UFC... That's not the world we live in, Joe.

01:12:33.000 Ben Askren, when he was at the UFC, they put a camera on him and the crowd went nuts.

01:12:37.000 He hasn't even fought in the UFC yet.

01:12:39.000 Everybody knows about him from the internet.

01:12:40.000 A lot of people know about him from you and me.

01:12:43.000 And a lot of people know about him from Bellator fans and 1FC fans.

01:12:48.000 I think people didn't realize how fucking popular he is.

01:12:51.000 And how people want to see...

01:12:53.000 What an undefeated, undefeated wrestler who dominated guys like Lima and Koroshkov and Bellator.

01:13:00.000 Still hasn't lost.

01:13:01.000 Dominated.

01:13:02.000 Don't you want to see what the fuck that guy can do?

01:13:04.000 And if you don't want to see what that guy can do against the fucking ruthless one, Robbie Lawler.

01:13:09.000 Robbie Lawler's not done, man.

01:13:11.000 No, he's not done.

01:13:12.000 He's a legend, man.

01:13:14.000 He's a legend.

01:13:15.000 He's always scary, man.

01:13:17.000 He's had multiple periods in his career.

01:13:20.000 He had the Strikeforce period.

01:13:22.000 He had the UFC period.

01:13:23.000 He had the Championship period.

01:13:25.000 He had his younger wild days in Hawaii.

01:13:27.000 He's fallen on some hard times lately.

01:13:29.000 He's not the greatest...

01:13:31.000 Robbie Lawler is not the greatest wrestler of all time.

01:13:34.000 He's fucking good.

01:13:35.000 But he did wrestle growing up.

01:13:37.000 And what the equalizer is...

01:13:38.000 That's a far cry.

01:13:39.000 ...are his fucking hands, dude.

01:13:40.000 His kicks, his knees, everything.

01:13:42.000 You could say he's right in there, a decent wrestler, but it's fucking hands, dude.

01:13:48.000 And it's anybody in the UFC. He might.

01:13:51.000 Maybe, but finding out is going to be entertaining as fuck.

01:13:56.000 Dude, again, I think you guys are coming at me like I don't think it's a great fight.

01:13:59.000 I'd love the fight.

01:14:00.000 No, no, we're not.

01:14:01.000 I just went, ah, man, I would've given Colby Covington.

01:14:04.000 I would've given...

01:14:04.000 That's coming.

01:14:05.000 That's coming.

01:14:06.000 This is after the first UFC fight.

01:14:08.000 He's a fucking two-time world champ.

01:14:09.000 Or Robbie Lawler gets Colby Covington if he wins.

01:14:13.000 True.

01:14:14.000 That's a great way for Robbie to get back into the mix.

01:14:16.000 And plus, you don't want to make it easy on Ben Ashkin, because everyone's going, yeah, this two out-of-the-UFC organization champ, let's see what he's made of.

01:14:26.000 Robbie Lodge is a tough fucking test, good takedown defense, knockout artist.

01:14:29.000 It gives Robbie an opportunity to reset, too, if Robbie can beat him.

01:14:34.000 Robbie didn't have a good fight with Rafael Dos Anjos, but he did have a good fight with Cowboy.

01:14:39.000 Those were the last two fights he had, I believe.

01:14:41.000 Am I right about that?

01:14:42.000 Was it Dos Anjos and Cowboy?

01:14:44.000 He lost to Dos Anjos, right?

01:14:48.000 Has Askren fought anybody at Lawler's level?

01:14:51.000 No.

01:14:52.000 Right?

01:14:52.000 No way, right?

01:14:53.000 Well, Lima, Douglas Lima, but that was a younger Lima.

01:14:56.000 Lima didn't wrestle growing up.

01:14:59.000 It was a younger Lima.

01:14:59.000 Younger Lima, so I'm not the same.

01:15:01.000 Younger Lima.

01:15:02.000 Korshkov's a fucking monster, but...

01:15:04.000 But both those guys, he dominated them so hard.

01:15:06.000 They were young.

01:15:07.000 Lima's a beast, though, but Lawler brings in wrestling and ferocious striking.

01:15:12.000 Also, competition at the highest level.

01:15:15.000 He's talking about a world champion in the UFC. I mean, he fought warriors.

01:15:19.000 He fought some of the best of the best.

01:15:21.000 I mean, he's one of the best of the best.

01:15:22.000 I'm interested to see if Aspen can talk shit on that.

01:15:25.000 Can he?

01:15:26.000 What'd you say?

01:15:27.000 Is there something about Lawler that Aspen can talk shit about?

01:15:30.000 No.

01:15:31.000 What can you say?

01:15:32.000 Nothing.

01:15:33.000 There's a few guys you can't talk shit about.

01:15:35.000 It's freaking Robbie Lawler, Dan Henderson, Matt Hughes.

01:15:39.000 You just can't.

01:15:41.000 There's nothing there.

01:15:42.000 Before Tyron Woodley beat him, people thought he was the boogeyman.

01:15:44.000 Who?

01:15:45.000 Robbie Lawler.

01:15:46.000 He used to get his shit out of people.

01:15:47.000 I'll never forget Dana White at the Comedy Store in 2002 or 2003. We're at the parking lot and Dana White went to see you and he's raving about this new kid.

01:16:00.000 Oh my God, I got this new kid, Robbie Lawler.

01:16:02.000 He's ferocious.

01:16:03.000 He's a wrestler who's just knocking everybody out on the local level.

01:16:06.000 You're going to hear a lot about Robbie Lawler.

01:16:08.000 I'll never forget that.

01:16:10.000 It was like 2001, 2002, something like that.

01:16:13.000 Talking about a Hall of Famer.

01:16:14.000 Legit Hall of Famer.

01:16:15.000 Yeah.

01:16:16.000 So for sure it's the toughest opponent of Ben Askren's career.

01:16:18.000 Or, yeah, I would say it's the toughest.

01:16:21.000 For sure it's the toughest.

01:16:22.000 Validates Ben if he beats him.

01:16:24.000 I have to be totally honest.

01:16:25.000 I never watched his fights in 1FC. I never figured out how to do it.

01:16:29.000 He had a hard time with a Russian wrestler.

01:16:32.000 Yeah, he did.

01:16:33.000 What's the best way?

01:16:35.000 I just saw highlights.

01:16:36.000 I saw highlights too.

01:16:37.000 I didn't watch 1FC either.

01:16:39.000 All I saw was Ben, as soon as he puts his hands on people, something's up.

01:16:46.000 He has bionic hands or something.

01:16:48.000 Because as soon as he's able to get his hands on, he just doesn't let go.

01:16:51.000 And I'm not going to say names.

01:16:52.000 He just pulls you down.

01:16:53.000 I'm not going to say names, but he does that.

01:16:55.000 He's like a giant Khabib.

01:16:56.000 He does that to everybody.

01:16:58.000 Guys we know that are good grapple.

01:17:00.000 I mean, everybody.

01:17:01.000 Yeah, that's exactly what I hear.

01:17:02.000 He's a bigger champion.

01:17:03.000 Which is why you and I both, we went on a goddamn campaign to get that motherfucker in the UFC. It worked!

01:17:09.000 How long did it take?

01:17:11.000 I know, I love that guy.

01:17:12.000 Damn!

01:17:12.000 Having him on the podcast was great too because people could get to see who he actually is.

01:17:16.000 You want a guy like him.

01:17:18.000 Remember him talking, these little shit-talking blurbs?

01:17:20.000 That's not real.

01:17:21.000 And you think, is this guy an asshole?

01:17:22.000 Who is this guy?

01:17:23.000 But then you sit with him for an hour and he's fun.

01:17:25.000 He's fucking smart as shit.

01:17:27.000 Articulate.

01:17:28.000 Really well-educated.

01:17:29.000 Looks like a Greek statue, right?

01:17:32.000 Doesn't he?

01:17:33.000 He can take a shot like no one, man.

01:17:36.000 He takes fucking knees when he shoots and gets clipped with knees.

01:17:40.000 Not good enough.

01:17:41.000 Who are the greatest fighters?

01:17:42.000 There's a couple others that you used to campaign for.

01:17:46.000 The greatest fighters that never fought in the UFC. Ben Askren is one.

01:17:49.000 Who's the other one?

01:17:51.000 Fedor was a big one.

01:17:51.000 Here's another one, a black guy.

01:17:53.000 A black guy?

01:17:54.000 Black guy who's never fought in the UFC. Who you campaigned for for ten fucking years.

01:17:59.000 Melvin Manhoof.

01:18:01.000 Oh yeah.

01:18:02.000 But Melvin wasn't really fighting that much MMA outside of pride rules, right?

01:18:08.000 Like, had he fought anywhere else?

01:18:09.000 He fought Bellator MMA. You know what, he's the kind of guy that's gonna fucking knock you into another dimension or he's gonna get choked out.

01:18:15.000 You know what I mean?

01:18:16.000 But either way, you bring him in.

01:18:18.000 His fight with Robbie Lawler.

01:18:21.000 How come we never got Melvin into the UFC? Because you wanted him in.

01:18:23.000 Is that what it was?

01:18:25.000 No.

01:18:25.000 Once you suggest the fighter, they're never coming in.

01:18:28.000 Nah, Ben got in, bro.

01:18:30.000 That's the way it works.

01:18:30.000 Dana hated him.

01:18:32.000 Dana fucking hated Ben.

01:18:34.000 No, Ben.

01:18:34.000 Dana hated Ben.

01:18:36.000 Ben who?

01:18:37.000 Askren.

01:18:38.000 They hated Ben.

01:18:38.000 Didn't they talk shit online?

01:18:39.000 Yes.

01:18:40.000 They went back and forth with each other.

01:18:41.000 It was brilliant.

01:18:42.000 Dana blocked him on Twitter.

01:18:43.000 Yes.

01:18:44.000 But...

01:18:46.000 Now he's in.

01:18:47.000 I got ahold of Dana and I said he's a nice guy.

01:18:50.000 I said he's a fun guy.

01:18:52.000 What if they party?

01:18:53.000 What if they end up partying?

01:18:54.000 They probably will.

01:18:55.000 Especially if Ben becomes champ.

01:18:57.000 Makes him a shitload of money.

01:18:58.000 Which he's going to.

01:18:59.000 Listen, they're gonna be happy they made this decision.

01:19:01.000 How old is Ben?

01:19:02.000 He's not that old.

01:19:03.000 He's like early 30s.

01:19:04.000 Early 30s?

01:19:05.000 How old is Ben?

01:19:06.000 Oh, shit.

01:19:07.000 34?

01:19:08.000 He's been doing for a hot minute, but he still fuck people up for a long time.

01:19:11.000 He has zero damage.

01:19:12.000 He didn't take a punch in his last two fights.

01:19:15.000 He hasn't taken a punch in forever.

01:19:17.000 You look at the month, it's been years.

01:19:18.000 Has it ever been cracked solid?

01:19:20.000 Yeah, he's been hit.

01:19:21.000 Yeah, Jay Heron.

01:19:21.000 He's been hit pretty hard.

01:19:22.000 Jay Heron actually split decision.

01:19:25.000 And he, I remember something up, he was telling me about, I don't want to speak out of school, so I won't even say what he said.

01:19:30.000 I don't remember what he said.

01:19:31.000 But there was an issue in his camp.

01:19:33.000 He was also striking a lot.

01:19:35.000 And he was like, what the fuck am I doing?

01:19:37.000 I'm not going to go in there and do this.

01:19:39.000 And then change his whole demeanor.

01:19:40.000 Just like, I'm taking everybody down.

01:19:42.000 I'm not going to get hit.

01:19:43.000 Floyd Mayweather stuff.

01:19:44.000 Jay Heron, you know, he's got real talent.

01:19:48.000 I mean, Jay Heron lost to some really good guys like George St. Pierre and Tyron Woodley, but Jay Heron's a tough fighter, and he's got a good mix of wrestling and grappling, or wrestling and striking, rather, and it was enough wrestling to get back up when he was stuck on the bottom or to prevent takedowns or fight him off.

01:20:08.000 Looking at this, man, you hear this nice little sweep?

01:20:10.000 Good reversal.

01:20:11.000 Yeah, so he can actually wrestle a bit too, and he hit him with a nice punch there.

01:20:14.000 So Jay Heron, look at that, see?

01:20:16.000 Oh, shit!

01:20:17.000 Dropped him with a spinning back kick.

01:20:19.000 Yeah, so Jay Heron is a tough guy, man.

01:20:22.000 Really, really tough.

01:20:23.000 Jay Heron.

01:20:24.000 He wrestles his whole life?

01:20:25.000 Yeah, he's a real wrestler.

01:20:26.000 And he's also got a lot of experience and had a lot of experience striking.

01:20:30.000 That was after he fought Georges St-Pierre.

01:20:33.000 Right?

01:20:33.000 Wasn't it?

01:20:34.000 Yes.

01:20:34.000 I believe so.

01:20:34.000 For sure that's after he fought.

01:20:35.000 Check to see if that's correct.

01:20:36.000 That's correct.

01:20:37.000 Because I know Jay...

01:20:38.000 That's after he fought George.

01:20:40.000 So they fought after he got released from the UFC? Yes.

01:20:42.000 Is that what happened?

01:20:44.000 So anyway, that was like the toughest test of his UFC career, but apparently there was another fight that he had in 1FC. Now, I'm getting this completely secondhand, and I apologize, but I didn't think we were going to talk about this.

01:20:56.000 I didn't prepare this or anything like that, but I think someone was telling me that he fought some dude and the fight got stopped by an eye poke, but that it was a tough fight.

01:21:04.000 Was it the Russian cat?

01:21:06.000 It might have been the Russian cat.

01:21:08.000 Look at that!

01:21:09.000 Look at this fight!

01:21:09.000 Damn!

01:21:10.000 Dariush got that body triangle.

01:21:13.000 I don't know if this is true.

01:21:21.000 This is just my guess and I think the first person to utilize that body triangle offensively at a high level in competition It was Jean-Jacques Machado in Abu Dhabi.

01:21:35.000 He was the first one.

01:21:37.000 I know there's old pictures of catch wrestling with guys in body triangles from the back, but in high-level competition, recorded, historical high-level competition, Abu Dhabi, Jean-Jacques Machado fucking ran through guys putting that body triangle on the back.

01:21:52.000 I remember asking him when he got back from Abu Dhabi, A figure four lock, you know, while you're on the back, why not just use the regular leg hooks?

01:22:02.000 And he said, man, when you're going, no gi is so slippery.

01:22:07.000 And he goes, you got to lock in the hips.

01:22:09.000 And from that point on, that changed my game.

01:22:11.000 I'm like, okay, I guess when I get the back, that's going to be my main focus is putting a triangle, a body triangle on.

01:22:17.000 And that was 1998, 99 in that area.

01:22:21.000 Old school, man.

01:22:21.000 Well, a lot of people don't know how much...

01:22:23.000 Well, everybody knows you're a Jean-Jacques black belt, but a lot of people don't know how much Jean-Jacques style of Nogi is what influenced you to come up with a lot of the positions and moves from Tenth Planet.

01:22:35.000 Not only me, but Marcelo Garcia.

01:22:37.000 Jean-Jacques Machado was the first Marcelo Garcia of the Abu Dhabi...

01:22:46.000 Historical archive.

01:22:47.000 He was the first one, because when you look at Marcelo Garcia, and no doubt, Marcelo Garcia, when you're talking about the greatest grappler of all time, Marcelo Garcia is right there in the conversation, can easily be number one.

01:23:00.000 If you had to say number one, would it be Hickson?

01:23:02.000 I'm going to say Marcelo Garcia, Jean-Jacques Hickson, number one, Haja Gracie, Hoffa Mendez, you know, that level.

01:23:13.000 But the first one in Abu Dhabi was Jean-Jacques.

01:23:17.000 When you look at what he did, he was using X guard and he was getting the back, putting the body triangles on.

01:23:23.000 The back was his shit.

01:23:24.000 And then Marcelo came and he was using X-Guard too.

01:23:28.000 I'm not taking anything away from Marcelo Garcia.

01:23:31.000 Anybody that knows me knows that I've given Marcelo Garcia more props than fucking anybody living.

01:23:37.000 You don't have to explain that.

01:23:41.000 Marcelo Garcia is one of the greatest of all time.

01:23:43.000 And so is Jean-Jacques.

01:23:45.000 They're both two of the greatest of all time.

01:23:46.000 There's a lot of that group.

01:23:47.000 Jean-Jacques was The first Abu Dhabi legend as far as finishing goes when you're talking about submissions because in those early Abu Dhabi's you had a bunch of wrestlers who were masters at controlling human beings without clothing but they didn't know how to pass and they didn't know how to finish and then on the flip side you had Brazilians who were masters of passing the guard and finishing their opponents but They didn't really know how to do it as well without the gi.

01:24:16.000 So you had a lot of stalemating going on and a lot of bickering and bantering back and forth about the rule set and all that.

01:24:23.000 For the first couple of years, you had the jiu-jitsu guys stalemating with the wrestlers and there's all this grease and all this sweat flying everywhere.

01:24:32.000 And then enters Jean-Jacques and his first...

01:24:44.000 Crazy.

01:24:45.000 Crazy.

01:24:51.000 Is Abu Dhabi still big?

01:24:53.000 Like really big?

01:24:54.000 Yeah, we just had the trials two weeks ago, and it was the biggest trials of all time.

01:24:59.000 There's like 60, 70 people in each division.

01:25:02.000 Think about that shit.

01:25:04.000 Think about that shit.

01:25:05.000 It's bigger than ever.

01:25:06.000 Just to switch complete gears, how about that bare-knuckle boxing?

01:25:10.000 I finally caught...

01:25:12.000 Have you guys seen this?

01:25:13.000 Chris Lieben just knocked Phil Barone out, right?

01:25:15.000 Starch Phil Barone.

01:25:16.000 Hendricks got knocked out, but I watched like...

01:25:20.000 Exciting shit?

01:25:21.000 Was Boss Rootin doing commentary for that?

01:25:23.000 Yeah.

01:25:23.000 It was pretty exciting.

01:25:26.000 Is that MMA or just boxing?

01:25:27.000 Just fucking boxing.

01:25:29.000 Just boxing.

01:25:29.000 Bare knuckle boxing.

01:25:30.000 And you know, you guys always talk about how you don't want gloves and shit.

01:25:32.000 We dudes are getting fucked up.

01:25:34.000 I like it.

01:25:35.000 You should be all over that shit.

01:25:36.000 Yeah, no.

01:25:37.000 You should be on top of that.

01:25:38.000 Start their own league, bro.

01:25:39.000 Bare knuckle boxing.

01:25:40.000 Is it in the States or Russian?

01:25:42.000 It was here.

01:25:42.000 Listen, don't give me a job.

01:25:44.000 Brendan Schaub.

01:25:45.000 You leave UFC? I wish them well.

01:25:48.000 I hope they do it.

01:25:49.000 Anything that Boss Rootin's attached to, I'm happy for.

01:25:52.000 Dude, how about bare-knuckle MMA? That's next, right?

01:25:55.000 Well, it should happen.

01:25:56.000 It should be tough.

01:25:56.000 We call it cock.

01:25:57.000 How is that tough?

01:25:58.000 Bare-knuckle boxing happened.

01:26:00.000 How hard is it going to be to have bare-knuckle MMA? We're just trying to stay.

01:26:04.000 No tape.

01:26:06.000 MMA's in like a motherfucker.

01:26:07.000 No taping your wrists.

01:26:09.000 Oh, fucking proper for anybody.

01:26:11.000 MMA's not going anywhere, so we don't have to...

01:26:14.000 Let's be logical.

01:26:15.000 If you could smash your elbow into someone's eye, if you could smash your elbow across someone's nose, into their face, into their mouth, over and over again, into their lips, into their teeth, right into their mouth guard, if you could do that with your elbow, why can't you punch them?

01:26:31.000 Why can't you punch them just with your hands?

01:26:33.000 That's ridiculous.

01:26:34.000 Because if every casual fan turns on Fox or ESPN, whatever it's going to be on, and they see dudes with nothing on, they're like, oh, this is barbaric.

01:26:44.000 We can't market this.

01:26:45.000 Reebok, everyone goes, we're out.

01:26:46.000 If people thought something and that something was not true, what do we do?

01:26:50.000 Do we educate them?

01:26:51.000 Or do we go, well, nothing we can do.

01:26:52.000 People just think differently.

01:26:53.000 They don't know any better.

01:26:55.000 So should football get rid of helmets?

01:26:57.000 You teach them.

01:26:57.000 Yes.

01:26:58.000 Dude.

01:26:59.000 You really should.

01:26:59.000 You know why?

01:27:00.000 They think that'd be the one thing.

01:27:02.000 They should wear some kind of leather type thing.

01:27:05.000 That's what they used to wear.

01:27:05.000 Dude, they used to wear leather.

01:27:07.000 Like in that George Clooney movie?

01:27:09.000 Yeah.

01:27:10.000 Like some kind of leather.

01:27:12.000 You've heard of that bullshit movie?

01:27:13.000 They're all built like George Clooney and they're pro athletes.

01:27:15.000 Just a bunch of white dudes.

01:27:16.000 A bunch of super white dudes with leather helmets on.

01:27:19.000 Dude, I wish I could go back for it.

01:27:21.000 How about that?

01:27:23.000 That was only until they let black people in.

01:27:25.000 Dude's ruled sports.

01:27:27.000 Oh, you're talking about Babe Ruth?

01:27:28.000 All that shit.

01:27:30.000 Football?

01:27:31.000 There wasn't one Dominican or black dude doing fastballs.

01:27:34.000 Dude, when Jim Brown showed up, they're like, we can't catch this guy.

01:27:36.000 When Jim Brown showed up, have you seen those highlights, those epic runs of Jim Brown?

01:27:41.000 And it's all white dudes chasing him.

01:27:43.000 Destroying him.

01:27:43.000 And dude, he's putting on moves on these white guys.

01:27:46.000 They didn't even know what to do with them.

01:27:48.000 Then the first black guy came in baseball and everyone was like, what the fuck?

01:27:52.000 Or a Dominican?

01:27:53.000 Game over.

01:27:54.000 Jim Brown had some of the...

01:27:55.000 You gotta watch his greatest fucking runs.

01:27:58.000 Oh, dude.

01:27:59.000 Better than Barry Sanders and OJ Simpson.

01:28:01.000 You know, he's a better lacrosse player.

01:28:03.000 Dang.

01:28:03.000 Yeah, he's a monster at lacrosse.

01:28:05.000 Can you imagine playing lacrosse with Jim Brown?

01:28:07.000 Fuck!

01:28:08.000 And he's allowed to hit you with that stick, right?

01:28:10.000 A little bit?

01:28:11.000 Fuck yeah!

01:28:11.000 Dude, he can kind of hit people a little bit with that stick.

01:28:13.000 How does that work?

01:28:14.000 How much hitting with that stick can you get away with?

01:28:16.000 You can hit the arms.

01:28:17.000 You just can't hit the head, but you can hit the arms.

01:28:18.000 Jamie's closest to college as any of us.

01:28:20.000 How hard can you hit people?

01:28:22.000 I played college lacrosse.

01:28:23.000 Oh, you played it?

01:28:23.000 Yeah, I played it.

01:28:24.000 I played it, yeah.

01:28:25.000 How much can you beat each other with?

01:28:27.000 You can beat the shit out of each other.

01:28:28.000 Your arms.

01:28:28.000 That's why they have pads in the arms.

01:28:29.000 You hit the arms.

01:28:30.000 Oh my god.

01:28:31.000 The stick.

01:28:32.000 You can literally fucking cold cop.

01:28:34.000 These guys are killing each other.

01:28:35.000 Oh shit.

01:28:36.000 How is the sport still around?

01:28:38.000 Lacrosse?

01:28:39.000 It's one of the oldest sports in the world, man.

01:28:40.000 Indians started it.

01:28:41.000 It looks kind of fun.

01:28:43.000 Oh my god.

01:28:44.000 People get fucked up.

01:28:45.000 Okay, that dude just got waylaid.

01:28:47.000 That's not illegal?

01:28:48.000 Nah, man.

01:28:49.000 You think it'll ever make it on Fox?

01:28:51.000 That's what you do.

01:28:51.000 You think it'll ever make it on Fox on a Saturday afternoon?

01:28:54.000 Never.

01:28:54.000 Why not?

01:28:55.000 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

01:28:56.000 You're allowed to hit each other with the stick, run into each other like that?

01:28:59.000 Yeah, bro.

01:28:59.000 And make the stick have contact with that guy's head?

01:29:01.000 Yeah.

01:29:01.000 It's hockey, but on fucking grass.

01:29:04.000 It's poor man hockey.

01:29:04.000 It's a great game.

01:29:05.000 It's a great game.

01:29:06.000 It looks like a great game if you like concussions.

01:29:09.000 It's a great game, yeah.

01:29:10.000 How often do you watch it?

01:29:11.000 How often do you watch it?

01:29:12.000 The first of never, Eddie.

01:29:14.000 The first of never.

01:29:15.000 It's fun to play.

01:29:17.000 If there's a game that's great, that means you watch it and you follow it.

01:29:21.000 It's not great if you don't watch and follow.

01:29:23.000 Is it great?

01:29:24.000 I love it.

01:29:25.000 I love it.

01:29:26.000 Do you follow it?

01:29:26.000 I don't watch a ton of jiu-jitsu either and jiu-jitsu's great.

01:29:29.000 Then you don't like it.

01:29:30.000 You guys are missing these chaos.

01:29:34.000 You get fucked up in lacrosse, man.

01:29:36.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

01:29:37.000 They're whipping their fucking stick at each other, dude.

01:29:40.000 This is chaos.

01:29:42.000 Joe, are you going to sacrifice kickboxing for this?

01:29:45.000 You got to follow this stuff?

01:29:46.000 No, but let me tell you something.

01:29:47.000 They're striking each other.

01:29:49.000 That's a strike.

01:29:51.000 They're elbow striking each other.

01:29:53.000 They're not just running into each other.

01:29:55.000 They're doing way worse.

01:29:56.000 They're hitting each other with the sticks and they're KOing each other with elbows.

01:30:00.000 Imagine Jim Brown.

01:30:01.000 Oh my god.

01:30:16.000 I'm not denying the size of these guys' balls.

01:30:23.000 I'm not denying them.

01:30:24.000 I'm just saying, if you ain't following it, It's okay at best.

01:30:31.000 Yeah.

01:30:31.000 The college is the best.

01:30:33.000 You know, people say, I love all music.

01:30:35.000 You like mariachis?

01:30:37.000 You like that?

01:30:37.000 I love every style.

01:30:39.000 How many mariachi CDs do you have in your car right now?

01:30:43.000 All of them.

01:30:43.000 Yes.

01:30:44.000 I love all music.

01:30:46.000 You like polka?

01:30:46.000 You remember when dudes used to have like a 12 disc CD changer in the car?

01:30:50.000 Oh, you were balling.

01:30:51.000 And you push it in the cartridge.

01:30:54.000 Dude, I had 7,000 CDs in the back of my truck.

01:30:58.000 Just all on the floor.

01:30:59.000 Do you remember those disc changers?

01:31:01.000 Like everybody, if you were a ball, you had a disc changer.

01:31:03.000 12 disc changers.

01:31:05.000 6 disc changers.

01:31:06.000 I'm going to go with number 6, please.

01:31:08.000 Fuck yeah.

01:31:08.000 I'll never forget going to...

01:31:10.000 So old school.

01:31:12.000 The car stereo store with him, and Joe would go in and just, give me the best shit.

01:31:18.000 How long ago was that?

01:31:19.000 Word for word.

01:31:19.000 Well, once I started making television money, I just wanted to hear what the best stereo sounds like.

01:31:25.000 It sounds fucking really good.

01:31:26.000 Didn't you say that word for word?

01:31:28.000 Give me the best shit.

01:31:29.000 Yeah, we were trying to figure out what to do.

01:31:31.000 The best shit.

01:31:31.000 Let's do the best shit.

01:31:33.000 Like, what sounds the best?

01:31:34.000 What car was it in?

01:31:35.000 That was a Porsche 996 twin turbo.

01:31:38.000 And your Barracuda.

01:31:41.000 And your Acura.

01:31:44.000 Oh yeah.

01:31:45.000 NSX. All that shit.

01:31:47.000 Good for you.

01:31:48.000 It makes the experience better.

01:31:50.000 He had like that high-level NSX back in the day.

01:31:53.000 This was like...

01:31:54.000 Type R or something?

01:31:55.000 And we were at Jiu-Jitsu and he had a bucket-handled hair and he couldn't walk.

01:32:00.000 And he goes, you gotta take me to the pro-low therapy, people.

01:32:02.000 And I had to drive his NSX. And I knew how to drive stick, but high-performance stick's a little different.

01:32:08.000 Different animal, yeah.

01:32:09.000 So we were panicking.

01:32:10.000 He's fucking holding his knees.

01:32:11.000 He's screaming.

01:32:11.000 He goes, you gotta take me to pro-low therapy!

01:32:14.000 Well, I gotta take you to the pro-low therapy doctor to get an MRI. Yeah, yeah.

01:32:18.000 And I grinded his gears a little bit, and his fucking...

01:32:22.000 He had steam!

01:32:24.000 He had steam coming out of his fucking hair follicles, dude!

01:32:28.000 Hell yeah!

01:32:29.000 He was holding his leg, and he's going, you motherfucker, don't grind my shit!

01:32:34.000 And I'm like...

01:32:34.000 I'm trying!

01:32:36.000 I didn't yell at you like that.

01:32:37.000 You were so mad, dude.

01:32:39.000 Okay, but I did not yell at you like that.

01:32:41.000 I know you got your artistic flair going.

01:32:43.000 I'd be pissed too, though.

01:32:43.000 Dude, seriously.

01:32:44.000 I'll never forget that.

01:32:45.000 I forget everything except special moments.

01:32:49.000 And I said yes.

01:32:49.000 Do you actually know how to drive a stick?

01:32:51.000 He's like, yeah, I got you, bro.

01:32:52.000 There you go.

01:32:53.000 I actually lied, and I didn't.

01:32:55.000 No, I didn't.

01:32:56.000 You know what?

01:32:56.000 My first car was a Ford Pinto station wagon.

01:32:59.000 You probably haven't driven a stick in a while.

01:33:00.000 It was a long time.

01:33:01.000 Then I had a Fiat.

01:33:02.000 Remember those little tiny sports cars, those two-seater Fiats?

01:33:04.000 I had one of those.

01:33:05.000 Those are in style now.

01:33:07.000 Dude, for a month, I was driving around at 19 with the little two-seater yellow Fiat going, I'm the fucking man, until it broke down like all Fiats do.

01:33:17.000 And I drove it for a month.

01:33:18.000 We could never figure out how to fix that motherfucker.

01:33:22.000 Why didn't you bring it to a Fiat repair, man?

01:33:25.000 It was a mid-engine.

01:33:27.000 That thing was so...

01:33:29.000 Fix it again, Tony.

01:33:31.000 That's what Fiat standing for.

01:33:34.000 Fix it again, Tony.

01:33:36.000 That's hilarious.

01:33:37.000 When that car broke down, I realized who my friends really were.

01:33:43.000 Nobody wanted to come pick me up for parties.

01:33:46.000 One night I started crying, man.

01:33:50.000 I don't really have any real friends.

01:33:53.000 Everybody was partying.

01:33:55.000 Everyone was going out.

01:33:56.000 I lived in that kind of far.

01:33:59.000 How far?

01:34:00.000 And I was the one picking 20-25 minutes.

01:34:03.000 Dude, that's just a hassle for your friends.

01:34:05.000 That's why I was crying.

01:34:07.000 Why do you think I was crying?

01:34:08.000 I'm like, I don't have any friends.

01:34:10.000 Yeah, you're cool, but 25 minutes is a long way.

01:34:13.000 I'm trying to fuck this girl.

01:34:14.000 I'm going to pick you up.

01:34:15.000 I realized how important cars were.

01:34:18.000 I'll never forget when my Fiat was up on blocks in my garage and nobody could figure it out.

01:34:23.000 Nobody could figure it out.

01:34:24.000 Dude, how great is this?

01:34:25.000 They're doing the throwback.

01:34:26.000 Like the throwback logos.

01:34:29.000 Isn't that dope for the 25th anniversary?

01:34:30.000 Is this the first time Jermaine Durandamy has fought since she won?

01:34:34.000 How crazy is that?

01:34:35.000 And then there's Raquel Pennington, who's just a beast.

01:34:38.000 How crazy is this?

01:34:39.000 Okay, check this out.

01:34:40.000 How sexist is the UFC? Think about this.

01:34:44.000 I'd say opposite, bro.

01:34:46.000 This is a joking way.

01:34:48.000 But when Raquel Pennington fought Amanda Nunes, the one thing they had in common was they both had girlfriends that were UFC fighters.

01:34:57.000 They don't touch on that.

01:34:58.000 And everything was fine.

01:34:59.000 Everything was cool and it should be cool.

01:35:00.000 But can you imagine if there was two male fighters fighting for the belt and they both had boyfriends that were also UFC fighters?

01:35:11.000 Damn.

01:35:12.000 How crazy is that?

01:35:13.000 Why is that sexist though?

01:35:16.000 We don't let guys do that.

01:35:17.000 We're okay with girls doing that.

01:35:18.000 What do you mean?

01:35:19.000 The UFC wouldn't give a fuck if DC and John were gay.

01:35:21.000 Come on.

01:35:22.000 They wouldn't care.

01:35:23.000 You think they would be okay with that?

01:35:26.000 100%.

01:35:26.000 You think so?

01:35:27.000 As long as they're winning fights, they don't care.

01:35:28.000 But here's what you have to take into consideration.

01:35:31.000 I don't think there's been any suppression of gay fighters in promotions.

01:35:36.000 There hasn't been enough promotions.

01:35:38.000 How weird is it?

01:35:39.000 It's probably super hard for some gay guys to get acceptance in gyms.

01:35:44.000 Correct.

01:35:46.000 It's got to be a gay gym, right?

01:35:48.000 It's got to be a gay dude gym?

01:35:49.000 Or someone who runs the gym who's super open-minded.

01:35:52.000 Your trainer's got to be gay.

01:35:53.000 It doesn't have to be gay.

01:35:54.000 He could be a guy that's just super open-minded and you could let him in.

01:35:58.000 But the problem is fight culture is old culture.

01:36:01.000 And that old, old culture from the boxing days and a lot of the wrestling days, like there's this thought of, you know, it's not the most progressive concept that, you know, gay guys, whoa, damn, Raquel Pennington.

01:36:15.000 That's the right attitude.

01:36:16.000 You know, there's not a sense of equality.

01:36:19.000 Well, check this out.

01:36:19.000 Check this out.

01:36:20.000 Don't...

01:36:20.000 Isn't it...

01:36:21.000 This is my theory.

01:36:22.000 My theory that so...

01:36:25.000 There's a disproportionate amount of female, lesbian fighters having success in the UFC. And this is my theory.

01:36:33.000 Well, they're the best fighters.

01:36:34.000 You know why?

01:36:35.000 This is my theory.

01:36:36.000 Is their training camps are not disruptive.

01:36:38.000 Right?

01:36:39.000 If they were heterosexual, everybody would be making moves on them.

01:36:43.000 They're dietitian.

01:36:44.000 Exactly.

01:36:46.000 The kickboxing trainer.

01:36:47.000 Everybody's going to be trying to make moves on them.

01:36:49.000 When they're lesbian, everybody just treats them like a guy.

01:36:52.000 You're crazy.

01:36:53.000 You're over thinking this.

01:36:54.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:36:55.000 I think this is a factor.

01:36:56.000 No, no, this is real.

01:36:57.000 This is real.

01:36:58.000 This may be a factor, but I don't think that's what makes them...

01:37:01.000 I think there's just some women like to fight and maybe more lesbians like to fight than straight women.

01:37:06.000 They're more drawn to it.

01:37:07.000 But a lot of straight women like to fight too.

01:37:09.000 I think their camps are less disruptive.

01:37:11.000 Because you take a girl, okay, let's just take a girl that looks like a UFC fighter that looks as good as Paige Van Zandt.

01:37:20.000 She's just like that.

01:37:22.000 Imagine all the dick that's going to be thrown at her every day.

01:37:28.000 The dick The dietitian, the chiropractor, the kickboxing.

01:37:33.000 Even if she's not single.

01:37:36.000 Especially if she's single.

01:37:39.000 Can you imagine the drama involved?

01:37:42.000 Trust me, I'm in the fucking fight game.

01:37:44.000 The girls are getting...

01:37:45.000 If you're a heterosexual girl and you're in a jiu-jitsu school...

01:37:50.000 It's like being a hot marine.

01:37:51.000 Exactly.

01:37:51.000 But if you're lesbian and you're hardcore, You're going to have a drama-free training camp and a school.

01:38:02.000 You're going to stick with the school.

01:38:05.000 Look at all the lesbian fighters.

01:38:07.000 They stick with the trainers.

01:38:09.000 There's no drama.

01:38:11.000 There's no drama.

01:38:12.000 Cyborg, Gina Carano, Randa Rousey.

01:38:16.000 Gina Carano!

01:38:17.000 What you're saying is correct, but this is just a factor.

01:38:21.000 There's a bunch of factors.

01:38:22.000 She's beautiful.

01:38:24.000 Rose.

01:38:25.000 Yeah, she's beautiful.

01:38:28.000 I'm not saying all the top fighters are lesbian.

01:38:33.000 I'm just saying there's a disproportionate amount of top fighters that are lesbian.

01:38:37.000 And I think that's because...

01:38:39.000 You don't think they're drawn more to the sport?

01:38:41.000 Rose Namajunas got a gigantic gorilla boyfriend that will fucking stomp on you.

01:38:45.000 Pat Berry?

01:38:46.000 Yes.

01:38:46.000 Well, not me, but yeah.

01:38:47.000 That's different.

01:38:47.000 Can you imagine if Rose Namajunas was single?

01:38:52.000 Can you imagine all the dick that would be flying at her?

01:38:55.000 Like, she'd be dodging that shit like the Matrix.

01:38:57.000 Respectfully, you're right.

01:38:58.000 Right?

01:38:58.000 100%.

01:38:59.000 There's less drama.

01:39:00.000 Dude, because in jiu-jitsu, not even striking or wrestling, just in jiu-jitsu, heterosexual girls, it's common in any field, though.

01:39:09.000 Hold on.

01:39:10.000 Exactly.

01:39:11.000 People are way more physical at an MMA gym.

01:39:17.000 There's way more contact with a guy and a girl at an MMA gym.

01:39:21.000 Jiu-jitsu girls are more prone to switch jiu-jitsu schools than guys.

01:39:32.000 Because they start dating a guy from another school, and they go, you know what?

01:39:35.000 Let me go train at that school on Saturdays.

01:39:37.000 They start training at the school on Saturdays, and then the guys at their school are like, well, you're training over there.

01:39:41.000 But dudes don't do that.

01:39:43.000 But the girls do that because they're heterosexual.

01:39:47.000 But if there's a lesbian, there's a little bit.

01:39:50.000 I'm not saying it's a be-all-end-all.

01:39:52.000 I'm just saying.

01:39:53.000 I don't think the UFC highlights Amanda Nunes enough being lesbian.

01:39:57.000 She should be on fucking every poster in West Hollywood.

01:40:00.000 No, check this out.

01:40:01.000 Check this out.

01:40:02.000 Beat the fuck out of Rhonda.

01:40:04.000 Fightin' Cyborg.

01:40:04.000 And beat the fuck out of Raquel Pennington, who's a beast.

01:40:07.000 Beat the shit out of her.

01:40:09.000 She's a monster.

01:40:10.000 She's marketable, man.

01:40:11.000 Think about the music business.

01:40:13.000 There's a disproportionate amount of...

01:40:16.000 I would say 90% of my favorite singers are gay.

01:40:20.000 I love gay singers.

01:40:22.000 What?

01:40:22.000 Name a gay singer.

01:40:22.000 Peter fucking...

01:40:23.000 I'm not even going to say his name.

01:40:25.000 I don't want to bust anybody out.

01:40:27.000 I'm just going to say...

01:40:28.000 That we don't know about?

01:40:29.000 No, no.

01:40:29.000 Who knows?

01:40:30.000 Freddie Mercury, whatever.

01:40:32.000 But what I'm saying is there's a disproportionate amount of gay vocalists out there, right?

01:40:38.000 Right.

01:40:38.000 Think about that.

01:40:39.000 Currently, though?

01:40:39.000 And gay Broadway people.

01:40:41.000 I can only name one, right?

01:40:42.000 You would think of people that perform on Broadway, you'd think that at least a healthy percentage would be gay.

01:40:47.000 And think about this.

01:40:47.000 Think about this.

01:40:48.000 Not artists.

01:40:49.000 We all know this.

01:40:50.000 We all know this.

01:40:51.000 In the music industry, there's a lot of...

01:40:55.000 Gay music producers and music executives, right?

01:40:59.000 And they do creepy shit, right?

01:41:00.000 Not because they're gay, just because they're guys.

01:41:03.000 Because they're guys.

01:41:04.000 Guys do creepy shit.

01:41:06.000 And you're going to do creepy shit with girls?

01:41:07.000 Or if you're gay, you're going to do creepy shit with guys.

01:41:11.000 There's a disproportionate amount of gay singers out there.

01:41:14.000 And how is a heterosexual singer going to compete with a gay singer when they're ready to suck dick at the drop of a fucking hat?

01:41:23.000 You know what I mean?

01:41:24.000 Well, how about you want to be Batman?

01:41:25.000 So what are you saying?

01:41:26.000 You're saying that happened with a lot of guys?

01:41:29.000 I'm not saying anything.

01:41:30.000 I'm just saying there's a lot of gay singers and there's a lot of gay...

01:41:33.000 And I love gay singers.

01:41:35.000 Most of my favorite singers are gay.

01:41:37.000 I don't think no one's arguing about it.

01:41:38.000 There's a lot of gay singers.

01:41:40.000 Let me phrase it this way.

01:41:41.000 Are you saying that the same way that a gal was trying to get into the music business, she could potentially run into some unscrupulous males in the business who prey on young girls trying to enter into the business?

01:41:53.000 Exactly.

01:41:54.000 The same could be said for young guys with gay guys.

01:41:58.000 If they're gay, they're willing to suck that producer's dick.

01:42:01.000 And if they're not, if they're straight, maybe it's even better.

01:42:04.000 There's some straight guys who are going to do it.

01:42:05.000 There's straight guys who are going to do it.

01:42:06.000 So dudes in bands, like bass players and drummers, are like, dude, we need a gay singer to get a deal up in this motherfucker.

01:42:12.000 So they look for gay singers.

01:42:14.000 I don't know the music industry.

01:42:16.000 Oh shit, look at that Jermaine Duran to me, 1-2.

01:42:18.000 That was nasty.

01:42:20.000 Duran, you know, one of the worst champions of all time, but is fucking skilled, man.

01:42:24.000 Oh dude, really high-level stand-up striker.

01:42:26.000 Like a 14-time world champion or some shit like that.

01:42:28.000 Very, very good striking, but did not want nothing to do with Cyborg.

01:42:32.000 Isn't that fascinating?

01:42:34.000 Literally was like, you know what?

01:42:35.000 I'm good.

01:42:36.000 My hand hurts.

01:42:37.000 I still don't think she beat Holly.

01:42:38.000 I don't think she beat Holly.

01:42:39.000 Well, here's why I agree with you.

01:42:41.000 Holly clanged her with a question mark kick and dropped her.

01:42:45.000 She had her stunned with that, and then she dropped her with a straight left hand.

01:42:48.000 Those are two hugely significant moments in the fight.

01:42:51.000 The only significant moments?

01:42:52.000 Really?

01:42:52.000 Well, Jermaine hit her after the bell twice.

01:42:56.000 Twice?

01:42:56.000 Nice.

01:42:57.000 And I think the second time, you should have taken a point away because they were hurting her.

01:43:02.000 The last one she landed after the bell, I think it was, was it the second round?

01:43:06.000 Oh, fuck.

01:43:06.000 Oh, shit.

01:43:07.000 Hey, Jermaine looks like a solid fucking striker.

01:43:11.000 Oh, she's super solid.

01:43:12.000 No, world class, bro.

01:43:13.000 Holy shit.

01:43:14.000 Did you hear what we were saying?

01:43:15.000 She's a world champion, dude.

01:43:16.000 Is she a lesbian?

01:43:17.000 No, she's a multiple-time world champion.

01:43:19.000 Her kickboxing is out of this world, man.

01:43:22.000 She had some insane kickboxing record.

01:43:24.000 Jamie, pull up her kickboxing record.

01:43:25.000 I'm surprised they gave Raquel Penton this fight.

01:43:27.000 Just an awful mashup for her.

01:43:28.000 Raquel's a fucking beast, man.

01:43:29.000 Not when it comes to the striking game.

01:43:30.000 Well, she's just fighting a woman who's just way better than her.

01:43:34.000 So is Amanda Nunes.

01:43:35.000 Look at her fucking record.

01:43:36.000 Those are all wins, son.

01:43:38.000 No, world champion, dude.

01:43:39.000 Yeah, dude.

01:43:41.000 37-0.

01:43:42.000 Holy shit.

01:43:43.000 Yeah, dude.

01:43:44.000 And she's lanky.

01:43:45.000 She's got wide shoulders, long arms.

01:43:46.000 There's no nightmare to deal with.

01:43:47.000 Here's the thing, man.

01:43:48.000 Here's the thing.

01:43:49.000 Why didn't she want Cyborg?

01:43:50.000 Because she doesn't want...

01:43:51.000 She wants to get stomped the fuck out.

01:43:53.000 Cyborg's too big.

01:43:54.000 Cyborg, she said, was a perennial...

01:43:56.000 What'd you call her?

01:43:57.000 What were the words?

01:43:58.000 Steroid user or some shit.

01:43:59.000 She had like a...

01:44:00.000 I don't want to...

01:44:02.000 I don't want to misquote it.

01:44:03.000 She was scared.

01:44:04.000 Straight up scared.

01:44:05.000 Was like, you know what?

01:44:05.000 I'll vacate the belt.

01:44:06.000 Fuck that noise.

01:44:07.000 I'm going to go back down.

01:44:08.000 To paraphrase, she essentially was saying that Cyborg has cheated and that she's used steroids.

01:44:13.000 I don't know what the wording was.

01:44:15.000 She didn't want to fight her.

01:44:15.000 And she said because of that, she didn't want to fight her.

01:44:18.000 At first she had her hand hurt.

01:44:19.000 Then she was like, you know what?

01:44:20.000 Fuck you.

01:44:20.000 I just don't want this.

01:44:21.000 She said she needed thumb surgery.

01:44:23.000 And she brought that up immediately when I asked her about fighting Cyborg.

01:44:27.000 But I think Cyborg's the boogie woman to these people.

01:44:29.000 That's what I think.

01:44:30.000 I think she's so much bigger than everybody else.

01:44:33.000 I mean, she's cutting down from 175, 180. Cyborg beat the shit out of her.

01:44:37.000 She's so powerful.

01:44:38.000 She is not 180. She's Cyborg?

01:44:41.000 She'll get up there, bro.

01:44:43.000 She's a big woman.

01:44:44.000 To 135?

01:44:45.000 No, 145. There's dudes who don't want to fuck with her.

01:44:50.000 There's dudes who don't want to fuck with that girl.

01:44:51.000 Think about how big Connor is.

01:44:54.000 Connor's walking around at 170-ish, right?

01:44:56.000 He used to cut down to 145. Just think about that cyborg is basically somewhere in that same range.

01:45:03.000 That's what's going on.

01:45:04.000 Yeah, that's huge.

01:45:05.000 That's a lot of weight.

01:45:07.000 A lot of weight to cut.

01:45:08.000 Somewhere in the 170, and maybe even during the offseason, maybe she gets even heavier.

01:45:13.000 Oh, Durandame just hit her with a fucking nasty straight left.

01:45:16.000 Dude, how about the fucking Amanda Nunez cyborg fight, end of December?

01:45:20.000 Yeah.

01:45:20.000 John Jones, Gusvin, same card.

01:45:22.000 I think she's too small.

01:45:23.000 I think Amanda's too small.

01:45:23.000 Dude, me too, just too small.

01:45:25.000 Durandame looks so nasty.

01:45:27.000 Look how good her striking looks.

01:45:28.000 Hey listen, I gotta get out of here.

01:45:29.000 I gotta go to 10th Planet 15 year anniversary party.

01:45:33.000 Tonight?

01:45:34.000 We got Bobby Lee's gonna perform.

01:45:36.000 Sam Tripoli's gonna perform.

01:45:38.000 What time does it start?

01:45:38.000 Steve Simone, Lee Syatt, Bobby Slayton.

01:45:42.000 What time does it start?

01:45:42.000 It starts at right now.

01:45:45.000 Damn.

01:45:45.000 Damn, bro.

01:45:46.000 I gotta get out of here, man.

01:45:47.000 Peace out on us?

01:45:48.000 15 years, baby.

01:45:49.000 Damn, congrats, man.

01:45:50.000 Dude, thank you, man.

01:45:51.000 Congrats, brother.

01:45:51.000 Dude, you were there that first day.

01:45:53.000 15 years ago.

01:45:55.000 Goddamn.

01:45:56.000 That's nuts, man.

01:45:57.000 Time flies like a motherfucker.

01:45:58.000 It does, dude.

01:45:59.000 Dude, I have so many black belts.

01:46:00.000 It's incredible.

01:46:02.000 Today, we had a business meeting because this weekend is the 10th Planet Eclipse weekend.

01:46:06.000 We do it every year.

01:46:07.000 And we have the holiday party.

01:46:09.000 We have a quintet, a 10 versus 10 show that was last night that was insane.

01:46:15.000 I heard those quintets are amazing.

01:46:17.000 Yeah, man.

01:46:17.000 And then tonight we have the party.

01:46:20.000 And then tomorrow we have the 10PQ, which is the 10th Planet Qualifier for the next DBI, which is the Strawweight Girls.

01:46:28.000 Dude, you got a legit business.

01:46:30.000 I'm surrounded by dudes who can kill me.

01:46:34.000 They're all around me.

01:46:35.000 I'm like, these motherfuckers, if they wanted to, they could just end my life right now.

01:46:39.000 You've shown them.

01:46:40.000 It's pretty crazy.

01:46:40.000 You're a master splinter.

01:46:41.000 You've got a bunch of turtles.

01:46:42.000 I got fucking insanity all around me.

01:46:46.000 If shit ever hits the fan, you want to be hanging out with jiu-jitsu clans.

01:46:51.000 That's for goddamn sure.

01:46:53.000 Well, I think that jiu-jitsu people are generally more calm because they're going to war all the time.

01:47:00.000 They get all that shit out of their system.

01:47:02.000 They're way more chill.

01:47:03.000 They're way more relaxed.

01:47:05.000 If we were running out of food, how easy it would be just to put someone in a rear naked choke.

01:47:10.000 And eat them?

01:47:11.000 And just like, you know what?

01:47:11.000 Yep.

01:47:13.000 You know, if you don't train, if you don't train and you're not a doctor, if you're not a doctor or some kind of MacGyver and you don't train, we're going to have to eat you.

01:47:22.000 Dude, what you said before the podcast was so funny.

01:47:25.000 What?

01:47:25.000 About the apocalypse, that homeless people are going to be psyched because they'll be like, ha ha, now you've got to live like us.

01:47:29.000 Homeless people are waiting for the end of the world.

01:47:33.000 They're digging the fires and shit.

01:47:35.000 Because they're going to be running shit.

01:47:36.000 They're going to be the alpha males.

01:47:37.000 Because they know what they're doing.

01:47:38.000 They know how to survive.

01:47:39.000 They know the spots and shit.

01:47:40.000 They know how to get the good shopping carts.

01:47:42.000 Their life is not going to change.

01:47:44.000 Might get better.

01:47:45.000 What's going to get crowded?

01:47:46.000 Dudes in favelas.

01:47:47.000 If you live in a favela, you don't have to worry about the end of the world because it's already the end of the world for you.

01:47:51.000 You know what I mean?

01:47:51.000 You already got that shit mastered.

01:47:53.000 Most people that are walking around pushing shopping carts with all those plastic bags hanging off them, they're probably most likely mentally ill.

01:48:01.000 Yeah.

01:48:01.000 Batshit crazy.

01:48:02.000 We'll all just be able to fall and steal this shit.

01:48:03.000 Probably MKUltra throwaways.

01:48:06.000 Probably child trafficking throwaways.

01:48:09.000 Eddie just went into that.

01:48:10.000 It might be.

01:48:11.000 It might be.

01:48:13.000 Some of them have to be.

01:48:14.000 Some of them have to be some throwaway.

01:48:17.000 Because we all know trafficking is going on.

01:48:20.000 What happens to these people?

01:48:21.000 A lot of them are veterans.

01:48:23.000 That's where it gets real scary.

01:48:24.000 A lot of them are veterans.

01:48:26.000 A lot of veterans come home and they don't know what the fuck to do.

01:48:31.000 Oh, that scared me.

01:48:32.000 It said Khabib McGregor, but it says now available on Fight Pass.

01:48:35.000 I love you guys.

01:48:36.000 Is that an outfit?

01:48:37.000 It says available on Fight Pass.

01:48:38.000 I love you too, Eddie.

01:48:39.000 Dude, you're the best.

01:48:40.000 Congrats, man.

01:48:41.000 Congratulations, brother.

01:48:42.000 I'll call you later, brother.

01:48:44.000 Wow, his wedding ring hurt.

01:48:45.000 Alright, see you guys.

01:48:46.000 Later.

01:48:47.000 Later, dude.

01:48:48.000 Dude, sit over here and I'll feel weird.

01:48:49.000 Yeah, it's going to be weird, right?

01:48:49.000 Like you're an Uber driver and I'm in the back.

01:48:52.000 If you're a friend and you have an extra friend, the friend's in the front seat and that friend leaves and the friend in the back seat stays in the back seat.

01:48:57.000 Like, hey, man, you got to get up here.

01:48:59.000 Fuck this, dude.

01:49:03.000 Damn, Jermaine Durandamy looks spooky.

01:49:06.000 She's so dangerous because she doesn't do anything wrong.

01:49:09.000 That's so calculated, man.

01:49:11.000 Well, it's super, like, super technical with her movements, too, and she's basically playing, like, a rhythm dance.

01:49:18.000 She's forcing Raquel into movements, but she has the solutions to those movements, like, several steps ahead.

01:49:23.000 Yeah, but here's the thing, Joe.

01:49:24.000 Think about how many...

01:49:27.000 More fights Jeranamy's been in than Raquel Pennington.

01:49:30.000 I mean, not even remotely close.

01:49:33.000 Well, not just that.

01:49:33.000 The experience factor at a high level.

01:49:34.000 Pennington would have to really struggle to take her down.

01:49:37.000 She's a 145-er, and Pennington's been fighting at 135. You know, and Jermaine dropped down to 35 for this fight, right?

01:49:44.000 Is this a 35 or a 45, Jamie?

01:49:46.000 This is 35. So Jermaine dropped back down to 35 after that 145-pound fight.

01:49:51.000 Oh, shit.

01:49:51.000 Head kick.

01:49:53.000 So she's super strong for the weight class.

01:49:57.000 Pennington has a tough record too, like salty 6-5 or something.

01:50:01.000 She's tough as shit though.

01:50:02.000 She's as tough as they come.

01:50:04.000 You know, one of my favorite finishes ever was her versus Ashley Evans-Smith because it was just this wild fucking brawl.

01:50:10.000 And then she catches her in a bulldog choke and puts her unconscious for like a second to go.

01:50:14.000 I think that was the last fight in Denver too.

01:50:17.000 Was it?

01:50:17.000 Because she's from Colorado Springs, so they usually put her on the Denver cards.

01:50:22.000 I'm a fan, by the way.

01:50:23.000 I'm a fan, too.

01:50:23.000 She's just so damn tough, man.

01:50:25.000 But Durant and me, I hate this matchup for after fucking...

01:50:30.000 Amanda Nunez.

01:50:31.000 Well, it's a scary matchup.

01:50:32.000 But she's ranked number four.

01:50:34.000 Oh, just that uppercut?

01:50:35.000 Goddamn.

01:50:36.000 It's scary because it's real similar and maybe, you know, Durandamy is even more lethal with all the different things.

01:50:46.000 I'm not hating at all, but Durandamy looks identical to the guy in Kickboxer that beats the fuck out of Jean-Claude Van Damme's friend.

01:50:54.000 The scary dude who's kicking the walls.

01:50:55.000 She's so...

01:50:56.000 Think about Durandamy that makes her just...

01:50:59.000 See, for sure, Amanda Nunes has more power.

01:51:02.000 And she'll assault you.

01:51:04.000 And she's more aggressive and reckless.

01:51:06.000 She comes after you.

01:51:07.000 A Nunes?

01:51:08.000 Yes.

01:51:09.000 And she's a murderer.

01:51:10.000 More power in the hands.

01:51:11.000 More power.

01:51:11.000 Her hands are just stunningly powerful.

01:51:13.000 Her speed.

01:51:13.000 And then she's also a black belt on the ground.

01:51:15.000 She's a bit of a beast.

01:51:16.000 But I think it's the power that's the difference.

01:51:18.000 But Durand, to me, has the full arsenal.

01:51:21.000 You know what I mean?

01:51:22.000 As far as her technique.

01:51:23.000 She's a surgeon.

01:51:24.000 Yes, that's a good way to put it.

01:51:26.000 All of her striking is done so effortlessly.

01:51:29.000 It's all efficiently and smooth.

01:51:31.000 And there's no weird moments where her hands are down, she's lunging, or her footwork's off.

01:51:37.000 Off balance, no.

01:51:38.000 Never.

01:51:38.000 The only time she struggled severely was against Holly Holm, who's also a world-class boxer.

01:51:44.000 And tricky, because Holly's different than probably a lot of the strikers that she faced.

01:51:49.000 Well, Holly's big, too.

01:51:50.000 Yes, she is big.

01:51:51.000 She's very strong.

01:51:52.000 Athletic.

01:51:53.000 Yeah, and she also has got sneaky shit that she does, like that question mark kick.

01:51:57.000 Yeah.

01:51:58.000 You know what I mean?

01:51:58.000 She clanged her right off the head with that.

01:52:00.000 That was a big moment, because Durandamy, in the beginning of the fight, was kind of controlling the pace and controlling the rhythm, and Holly had to find her spots, and a lot of people thought she could have won that decision.

01:52:10.000 It was real close.

01:52:11.000 It's a tough spot for Duran and me where they go, alright, now you're fighting Cyborg.

01:52:14.000 And she's like, fuck that, man.

01:52:16.000 So then, you know, she gets stripped of the title.

01:52:18.000 We all shit on her.

01:52:19.000 But it must have been a tough position.

01:52:21.000 Well, if she has real feelings about this and she really...

01:52:24.000 Oh, something happened.

01:52:26.000 What happened?

01:52:26.000 Grabbing the shorts?

01:52:27.000 I don't know.

01:52:28.000 Something happened.

01:52:29.000 Hit her in the titty?

01:52:31.000 Did she go low?

01:52:33.000 Did they take a cuda shot?

01:52:36.000 Do you pause?

01:52:37.000 Someone took a...

01:52:38.000 What happened?

01:52:39.000 Jamie, what happened?

01:52:40.000 Eye poke?

01:52:41.000 Pussy shot?

01:52:42.000 Was it?

01:52:43.000 Come on.

01:52:43.000 Was it grabbing?

01:52:44.000 Fence grabbing?

01:52:45.000 I think it was either short or fence grabbing.

01:52:47.000 Oh, it might be a fence grabbing.

01:52:50.000 No, but it seems like they're giving her a chance to recover.

01:52:53.000 Goddammit, I wish we were paying attention.

01:52:54.000 It's tough.

01:52:55.000 Something happened.

01:52:56.000 Can we rewind a bit?

01:52:57.000 Oh, but then we'll fuck everybody up.

01:52:58.000 Yeah, it'll be a nightmare.

01:52:59.000 We'll figure it out.

01:53:00.000 Well, Jeremy just apologized.

01:53:01.000 I wonder what it was.

01:53:02.000 It seems like a foul.

01:53:04.000 Oh, shit.

01:53:05.000 Oh, nice knee.

01:53:06.000 Oh, fuck.

01:53:08.000 But doesn't go lateral.

01:53:10.000 Notice?

01:53:10.000 Straight back, right?

01:53:12.000 Still good takedown defense, but accepting the fact that clinch is definitely going to happen.

01:53:17.000 As opposed to next stage.

01:53:18.000 Almost wants the clinch.

01:53:19.000 Well, almost.

01:53:20.000 She's the bigger fighter.

01:53:21.000 It's also the end of the third.

01:53:23.000 And she's been winning all the rounds, so she's like, alright, cool, man.

01:53:25.000 This is safe for me.

01:53:26.000 I'm not going to knock me out of you.

01:53:28.000 Yeah, I'll just protect myself.

01:53:28.000 Maybe catch my breath.

01:53:30.000 And then get you off me and finish the round strong.

01:53:32.000 But she's going to have a hard time getting her off.

01:53:34.000 Dude, I'm nervous for these next two fights.

01:53:37.000 The Yair Korean Zombie one's interesting because Yair's been out for a hot fucking minute.

01:53:42.000 Remember he was basically signed with Bellator?

01:53:44.000 Mm-hmm.

01:53:45.000 Like, he was going through that whole thing where he turned down the Zabit fight.

01:53:48.000 Then they go, all right, if you're not fighting Zabit, we're going to cut you.

01:53:51.000 Then he's like, all right, I'll sign with UFC. And then they're like, all right, you're fighting Zabit.

01:53:55.000 Then Zabit pulls out.

01:53:56.000 Whew.

01:53:57.000 Dude, you see that beautiful one?

01:53:59.000 Right hand, left hook, right leg kick?

01:54:01.000 Dude, she's fun to watch, man.

01:54:03.000 She got a bad rap because that turned down the cyborg stuff.

01:54:06.000 Well, you know what, man?

01:54:10.000 That is what it is.

01:54:11.000 We've said so much about that.

01:54:12.000 There's really no reason to continue to talk about it.

01:54:15.000 I know.

01:54:15.000 It's fucked up.

01:54:16.000 When you look at the reality of who they are today, Cyborg is just way scarier than any of those girls.

01:54:21.000 One of the things that makes Amanda Nunes interesting as an opponent for Cyborg is, first of all, her last fight with Raquel Pennington, she showed a lot of movement.

01:54:29.000 I think she needs a shitload of movement in this fight.

01:54:31.000 She would need all the movement.

01:54:33.000 She needs to be in fucking shape.

01:54:35.000 She needs to be in serious shape and she needs to be strong.

01:54:38.000 Five rounds.

01:54:39.000 And this is one of the things that Amanda Nunes said at the press conference.

01:54:42.000 I didn't listen to the press conference.

01:54:43.000 The press conference is interesting because Cyborg was accusing her of, I think, not fighting her at a previous time.

01:54:50.000 And she said she needed more time.

01:54:53.000 I think they wanted to try to do those two in New York for Madison Square Garden perhaps.

01:54:57.000 They've been trying it for a while.

01:54:58.000 Amanda Nunes goes, I need more time, which I actually like that.

01:55:01.000 I like that too, because she's the smaller woman coming up as the 135-pound champion, challenging the 145-pound champion.

01:55:08.000 She's going to have to put some weight on.

01:55:09.000 She wants to keep it on and be comfortable with it on, and hopefully get above 145 so she can cut a little.

01:55:13.000 Because the reality of Cyborg is she's way bigger.

01:55:17.000 She's probably walking around.

01:55:18.000 How many pounds bigger would you guess than Amanda?

01:55:21.000 Just naturally?

01:55:22.000 Just naturally.

01:55:23.000 25, 30, probably?

01:55:24.000 What do you think?

01:55:25.000 There's a number.

01:55:26.000 20s?

01:55:26.000 I would like to know what that number is.

01:55:28.000 At least 20 pounds.

01:55:29.000 I would say it would be 20. Let's say 20 to be fair.

01:55:30.000 20 pounds heavier.

01:55:31.000 It's entirely possible it would be 20. So if Amanda Nunes is the 135-pound women's champion, what does she actually weigh?

01:55:39.000 We're saying, if you think the Cyborg is, let's be generous and say it's in the 170s.

01:55:44.000 Yes.

01:55:45.000 And then she cuts down to 145. And we don't know, by the way.

01:55:48.000 We just have read things.

01:55:49.000 I would like to know.

01:55:51.000 Let's see if Cyborg has ever commented on what she weighs before she starts her weight cut.

01:55:56.000 60s?

01:55:56.000 High 60s, right?

01:55:58.000 Maybe.

01:55:59.000 Let's get crazy and say it's 160. Even 160 would be a lot of weight, bigger than Amanda Nunes, wouldn't you think?

01:56:06.000 100%.

01:56:06.000 What does Amanda Nunes weigh?

01:56:07.000 God, Amanda Nunes, 50s?

01:56:10.000 You think she weighs 150 when she walks around normally and cuts down to 135?

01:56:13.000 Maybe.

01:56:14.000 She's very strong.

01:56:15.000 She's big girl.

01:56:16.000 She's rocked.

01:56:17.000 She's jacked.

01:56:17.000 She's got all that back power, man, when she punches.

01:56:20.000 She fucking has the longest punches.

01:56:23.000 She's one of my favorites.

01:56:24.000 She punches so long.

01:56:26.000 It's like she's hitting you way at the end.

01:56:31.000 And she's fucking aggressive as shit.

01:56:34.000 So maybe, let's say, she weighs...

01:56:38.000 145, 150 at the most.

01:56:40.000 We'll say 50 at the most.

01:56:41.000 Cyborg could be 170. She could be bigger than 170. I'm saying she's rolling around in the 60s.

01:56:46.000 You think she's in the 60s?

01:56:47.000 Yeah.

01:56:48.000 You think she's in the 60s now?

01:56:50.000 Yes.

01:56:50.000 Or you think she's in the 60s all the time?

01:56:52.000 Do you think she gets bigger than that and then gets lean?

01:56:56.000 From talking with her manager, her boyfriend.

01:56:59.000 She walks around at 185. Jesus!

01:57:01.000 Used to, she said.

01:57:04.000 This one, she's approaching UFC 219, which already happened, at 170. What year is this?

01:57:16.000 This is at the end of last year.

01:57:18.000 Interesting.

01:57:20.000 You know before I used to walk around at 180 or 85, and now I'm walking around at 170. It's very different.

01:57:28.000 That's interesting.

01:57:30.000 Then before, when I was heavy, I'm getting to work more and more.

01:57:34.000 Okay, that makes sense.

01:57:36.000 170?

01:57:37.000 I'm getting to work more and more, getting light, but I really have to be on top of my weight now.

01:57:42.000 So she's decided to stay on top of her weight so she doesn't have to go through so much of a brutal cut, which I think is very wise.

01:57:47.000 170 is still a lot of weight.

01:57:50.000 That's 25 pounds.

01:57:51.000 She fights at 145. She's the 145-pound champion, which means even right now she's saying she doesn't cut as much, but she cuts 25 pounds, man.

01:58:01.000 That's how big she is for the division.

01:58:04.000 And did Lockhart say this?

01:58:05.000 Maybe Dolce is one of those weight cutting experts who are saying that it's tougher for females.

01:58:11.000 That the weight cut gets tougher and tougher because of the adipose tissue and stuff like that and their hormones.

01:58:16.000 Yeah, I think that was Lockhart.

01:58:17.000 I don't remember.

01:58:18.000 It might just be bro science right now.

01:58:19.000 We are bro science.

01:58:21.000 Neither one of us know jack shit about fat content.

01:58:24.000 Nothing.

01:58:24.000 Especially when it comes to women.

01:58:26.000 But I do think that, you know, there's also unique struggles with women when it's different times of the month.

01:58:32.000 You know, women get bloated, they retain water, and sometimes it's hard to get that water out.

01:58:37.000 I've also talked to some women I've dated in the past, women who do those competitions who cut weight to, not for fighting, but for like bodybuilding, where they do bikini.

01:58:45.000 Their thyroids are fucked up.

01:58:48.000 Up.

01:58:48.000 So then their body, it'll cut down, but then it goes, oh shit, we don't want to do that again.

01:58:52.000 So it blows up.

01:58:54.000 And it's trying to protect stuff.

01:58:55.000 So weight cutting for women, the high amount of time gets tougher and tougher.

01:58:58.000 Yeah.

01:58:59.000 Bro science.

01:59:00.000 Hashtag bro science.

01:59:01.000 Hashtag bro science.

01:59:02.000 It's also bad for everybody, man.

01:59:04.000 It's not good for anybody.

01:59:05.000 It's not good for anybody.

01:59:06.000 That's why Cowboy at 70 I like, because 55 is so drawn out.

01:59:09.000 But then there's guys like fucking Till and Woodley and Wonderboy's fucking huge, too.

01:59:15.000 These guys are big.

01:59:16.000 This fucking dude.

01:59:17.000 You know, what we're about to see.

01:59:19.000 Perry's shorter, but he's fucking thick, man.

01:59:21.000 Thick and scary.

01:59:22.000 And he swings to try to kill you.

01:59:24.000 Here's the thing that scares me about this fight with Cowboy.

01:59:27.000 Cowboy needs this, right?

01:59:27.000 He's a bit of a fork in the road for his career.

01:59:30.000 He's fighting a guy in Mike Perry who's trained with his camp.

01:59:33.000 Nobody knows Cowboy better.

01:59:35.000 He's watched Cowboy spar more than people at Jackson's.

01:59:38.000 Yeah.

01:59:38.000 And Cowboy needs this.

01:59:39.000 Then there's the whole thing with Mike Wigel and John who's cornering Perry against Cowboy.

01:59:44.000 It's just a shit situation, man.

01:59:46.000 But it is for everybody.

01:59:48.000 It's just highly charged.

01:59:49.000 It's highly charged.

01:59:50.000 But look, both guys are...

01:59:52.000 It's a matchup that people want to see.

01:59:55.000 It's a real crossroads matchup.

01:59:57.000 I love the fight.

01:59:58.000 It's a crossroads matchup because if Perry can't get past Donald Cerrone, it puts him in this position where he's...

02:00:08.000 He's learning.

02:00:09.000 He's certainly getting better.

02:00:10.000 But when it comes to world-class competition, who's the most world-class guy he's faced?

02:00:15.000 Before, it's Felder.

02:00:16.000 And Felder's really a 155-pound guy, too.

02:00:17.000 Felder's his best win.

02:00:18.000 You mentioned he was hurt.

02:00:20.000 Before that, Ponsonabia.

02:00:21.000 He lost that.

02:00:23.000 That's an old Jake Ellenberger.

02:00:24.000 That's a weather Jake Ellenberger.

02:00:26.000 Unfortunately.

02:00:26.000 But it's still fucking stunning.

02:00:28.000 The way he knocked him out, you realize that that guy has some...

02:00:31.000 It's an older Jake Ellenberger, for sure.

02:00:32.000 But that elbow on the break was legit as fuck, dude.

02:00:35.000 Because when you look at the guys, Alan Joban beat him, right?

02:00:39.000 This is by far his toughest fight.

02:00:41.000 I think this is his toughest fight, but also they know each other.

02:00:44.000 They've sparred together.

02:00:46.000 And I think that Donald thinks he knows his tendencies and he knows what he can do with them.

02:00:54.000 And I think Donald has some good times with them.

02:00:59.000 They say when they grapple, Donald tuned them up.

02:01:01.000 Yeah, that's what I think, man.

02:01:03.000 And that's one of the things that Mike Perry said is that Donald's probably going to try to grab ahold of me and put me on my back and hold me down.

02:01:10.000 You know, you can't discount this dude.

02:01:13.000 I mean, he knocked out Matt Brown.

02:01:15.000 I mean, this fucking combination that he did to Rick Story was preposterous.

02:01:19.000 Oh, dude, Cowboy's one of the greats.

02:01:20.000 He's just been doing it for a long, long fucking time.

02:01:22.000 And the way he did that Rick Story one, dude, he's just touching him up.

02:01:25.000 He's touching him up.

02:01:26.000 The scary thing about Donald is that when Donald can be the bully, he's going to fuck you up.

02:01:30.000 But when someone draws a line in the sand and starts going forward on Donald, he struggles a little bit.

02:01:34.000 Look at Nate Diaz' fight.

02:01:36.000 You know, there's some...

02:01:37.000 The guys who don't play his games, Matt Brown, that was a tough fight for him.

02:01:41.000 That's true.

02:01:41.000 Even though he knocked him out, that was a tough fucking fight.

02:01:43.000 Well, Matt Brown's a tough fight for anybody.

02:01:44.000 Watch this.

02:01:45.000 Here it is.

02:01:45.000 Here's that elbow.

02:01:46.000 Boom, son.

02:01:48.000 I mean, he's got some fucking power, man.

02:01:51.000 He looked great against Felder.

02:01:54.000 He really did.

02:01:54.000 He didn't just look great because Felder hurt his arm.

02:01:57.000 He looked great because he looked great.

02:01:59.000 But Felder did hurt his arm.

02:02:01.000 But, I mean, he hurt his arm off Mike Perry's head.

02:02:03.000 That spinning backfist leads to so many broken arms.

02:02:06.000 Think about it.

02:02:07.000 There's a lot of guys.

02:02:08.000 Yeah, you hit that forehead.

02:02:09.000 And Felder and I were talking about it.

02:02:11.000 He tries to kind of smash it like a hammer fist.

02:02:16.000 You try to catch a guy right at the end of it like a hammer fist.

02:02:20.000 But sometimes the movement.

02:02:21.000 And sometimes you hit that fucking forehead.

02:02:24.000 Foreheads are so hard, man.

02:02:26.000 Maybe it's a blessing in disguise because Felder's a great commentator.

02:02:28.000 So do that and quick and punch in the face.

02:02:31.000 He is a great commentator.

02:02:32.000 He's very very good.

02:02:33.000 When we worked together man, I was like damn this dude is smooth.

02:02:36.000 He's professional.

02:02:38.000 He loves the sport.

02:02:39.000 He really does love the sport.

02:02:41.000 You know he's an acting major, theater major.

02:02:43.000 Yeah, he was a theater major.

02:02:44.000 Smart guy.

02:02:45.000 He's very, really good at it, man.

02:02:48.000 He likes fighting.

02:02:49.000 Of course.

02:02:50.000 He likes it.

02:02:51.000 Of course.

02:02:51.000 He's fighting James Vick next, which I think is a very good fight.

02:02:54.000 James Vick is a fucking big guy.

02:02:56.000 Lost his last one, like his first big step up for James Vick.

02:02:59.000 Lost that one.

02:02:59.000 But James Vick and Paul Felder is a great fight.

02:03:02.000 It's a great fight.

02:03:03.000 It's a crazy fight, right?

02:03:04.000 Isn't it?

02:03:06.000 Pretty crazy fight.

02:03:07.000 Big fight for James Vick.

02:03:09.000 It's a big fight for both guys.

02:03:11.000 It's true, coming off loss.

02:03:12.000 And the loss was like a last minute fight.

02:03:16.000 That's right.

02:03:16.000 I think he only got a couple of weeks.

02:03:18.000 They switched it on.

02:03:19.000 Yeah, less than that, right?

02:03:20.000 And he moved up to 170 for that fight.

02:03:22.000 Instead of fighting at 155, which, you know, I think if you're going to fight a weight class above yours and, you know, you feel like it's the time and you made the decision, that's great.

02:03:32.000 You should do that.

02:03:33.000 But if you're not doing that, if you plan to keep fighting at 155, to take a fight in a larger weight class is a big risk.

02:03:41.000 And to take a fight against...

02:03:43.000 Yeah, against a real killer like Perry.

02:03:45.000 I think it's super dangerous.

02:03:47.000 Perry's dangerous because he hits like a seven-year-old.

02:03:49.000 There's guys who are...

02:03:50.000 He takes it.

02:03:50.000 He takes it, but he can hit like a fucking middleweight even.

02:03:53.000 He hits fucking hard.

02:03:54.000 Which is the real problem.

02:03:55.000 Yeah.

02:03:56.000 And he takes it.

02:03:57.000 And you've got to remember, Cowboy has fought everybody, man.

02:04:01.000 He's fought so many fucking people.

02:04:04.000 You know, and this is...

02:04:05.000 Name a fighter.

02:04:06.000 He's probably a fighter.

02:04:07.000 He's been fighting forever, man.

02:04:08.000 And this is deep into his career.

02:04:10.000 You know, this is a real...

02:04:12.000 Like, Darren Till is a young, enormous welterweight.

02:04:15.000 And Cowboy lost to him.

02:04:17.000 It's like, damn, how good is Darren Till?

02:04:18.000 Cowboy lost to Edwards, too.

02:04:19.000 But if...

02:04:20.000 To who?

02:04:21.000 Leon Edwards?

02:04:23.000 That's right.

02:04:23.000 He lost his decision.

02:04:24.000 That was the one where he was sick as fuck, though, and he almost pulled out of the fight.

02:04:27.000 But still, you know?

02:04:29.000 It's true.

02:04:29.000 No doubt.

02:04:30.000 Look, no one's saying that Cowboys- I'm not saying Edwards isn't a monster.

02:04:33.000 No one's saying Cowboys is a 20-year-old guy who's at the beginning of his career.

02:04:37.000 He's been fighting a long time, but I think you get a look at a person from their last fight and you go, ah, man, he's slipping.

02:04:44.000 Like, are you sure?

02:04:45.000 Are you sure?

02:04:45.000 Because he might just be unmotivated or having a lack of discipline for this camp.

02:04:50.000 Or he's fighting a really fucking good guy in Edwards and Darren Till, who are terrible matchups for him.

02:04:55.000 Darren Till.

02:04:56.000 Because his win was against the other cowboy, the Brazilian cowboy, right?

02:04:59.000 Yeah.

02:05:00.000 And Darren Till is such...

02:05:01.000 Or Yancy Manderos.

02:05:02.000 Sorry, Yancy Manderos.

02:05:03.000 If you can't keep him off you, if you can't clip him and keep him off you, he's a nightmare.

02:05:09.000 One of the best in the world.

02:05:10.000 And this is one of the things that highlights how underrated Woodley's striking has become.

02:05:15.000 Because Woodley knocked down both Till, who's thought to be one of the best strikers in the division, and Long and Awkward, and Wonderboy.

02:05:22.000 Well, he choked him out.

02:05:24.000 But knocked down Wonderboy in both of their fights and had him all fucked up.

02:05:29.000 Whereas neither one of those guys hurt him.

02:05:31.000 Neither one of those guys hit him.

02:05:32.000 That's kind of crazy.

02:05:34.000 Impressive, too.

02:05:35.000 And doing rap albums and shit.

02:05:36.000 I didn't hear his rap.

02:05:38.000 Was it Wiz Khalifa?

02:05:40.000 Yeah, I mean, yeah.

02:05:41.000 For sure.

02:05:42.000 Have you heard it, Jamie?

02:05:43.000 No?

02:05:44.000 It's not bad, you know?

02:05:46.000 He got upset that we were talking about CM Punk.

02:05:49.000 And I was saying that CM Punk...

02:05:52.000 What is that?

02:05:53.000 Logan Paul.

02:05:54.000 Logan Paul character.

02:05:55.000 He would beat CM Punk.

02:05:57.000 You're right about that.

02:05:58.000 Is that what you said?

02:05:59.000 Yes.

02:05:59.000 I said he's a good fighter.

02:06:01.000 You know why?

02:06:02.000 Because Logan Paul wrestled in high school.

02:06:03.000 CM Punk did not.

02:06:05.000 Also, I was looking at his boxing match.

02:06:07.000 I was looking at the way he chains punches together.

02:06:09.000 He can punch.

02:06:09.000 He's athletic.

02:06:10.000 Yeah, he can punch.

02:06:11.000 So if you're going to allow CM Punk to fight in the UFC... That was all my point was.

02:06:15.000 My point wasn't that CM Punk is bad.

02:06:17.000 And I think that CM Punk is actually a very brave guy.

02:06:20.000 I think that's a powerful thing to do, to take a chance like that and do it publicly.

02:06:25.000 How dare you?

02:06:26.000 I mean, anyone's brave.

02:06:28.000 Tyron thought for some reason I was talking shit about him, but I'm most certainly not.

02:06:31.000 No, he's a teammate.

02:06:32.000 I get it.

02:06:33.000 Woodley does a TMZ show, so he gets ratings.

02:06:36.000 Woodley knows how to play the game.

02:06:37.000 I think he loves the guy, too.

02:06:39.000 Yeah, it's his boy.

02:06:40.000 I respect.

02:06:41.000 And if you go, hey, Logan Paul can beat up your boy.

02:06:43.000 I don't even know if he could.

02:06:44.000 I don't know if they're even the same weight class.

02:06:45.000 Isn't Logan Paul a lot bigger?

02:06:47.000 I have no idea how big Logan Paul is a YouTuber, so I don't know.

02:06:50.000 I feel like someone said he fought at 185 pounds in his boxing match.

02:06:54.000 But they didn't cut any weight, though, right?

02:06:55.000 Is he that big, 185?

02:06:57.000 I think he's a big fella.

02:06:58.000 He has a little brother, too, who's calling out, like, Dylan Dennis, which is silly.

02:07:02.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

02:07:03.000 That's hilarious.

02:07:04.000 And then he goes, and then people go, uh, you know, Dylan's a world-class jiu-jitsu guy.

02:07:07.000 He goes, no, no, no, not jiu-jitsu.

02:07:08.000 Just boxing.

02:07:10.000 Fuck jiu-jitsu.

02:07:10.000 Oh, good lord.

02:07:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:07:11.000 He just doesn't know.

02:07:12.000 Oh shit, it's about to go down, dude.

02:07:14.000 Mike Perry's in the cage and Cowboy's walking up.

02:07:16.000 Cowboy always looks so nervous when he fights in Denver.

02:07:19.000 He's 86 kilograms flat, whatever that is.

02:07:22.000 86 kilograms.

02:07:24.000 What is that?

02:07:25.000 That's 160-something, right?

02:07:27.000 I don't know.

02:07:28.000 That's 189.5.

02:07:31.000 Oh, big kid.

02:07:32.000 So he's way bigger than CM Punk.

02:07:33.000 Well, CM Punk just fought at 70, cut weight.

02:07:36.000 Those guys didn't cut weight.

02:07:38.000 CM Punk might be in the 189 range.

02:07:41.000 Logan Paul's definitely bigger.

02:07:42.000 I think Logan Paul is a better athlete.

02:07:44.000 He fights at 170. Yeah, there's nothing wrong saying that.

02:07:46.000 He probably weighs like probably 180 or something if he cuts down to 170. If you had to guess, CM Punk 80-ish.

02:07:52.000 190?

02:07:53.000 190?

02:07:53.000 I believe that.

02:07:54.000 That's WWE shit.

02:07:56.000 He cuts 20 pounds.

02:07:57.000 Probably not.

02:07:58.000 Probably actually now it's probably UFC information.

02:08:01.000 Well, he fights at welterweight.

02:08:03.000 That's what he competes.

02:08:04.000 He might be cutting weight from 190, which is not outrageous.

02:08:07.000 Also, Logan Paul's way younger.

02:08:09.000 A lot younger.

02:08:10.000 Vibrant.

02:08:11.000 Well, it's one thing if it was Melvin Manhoof at 36. Yeah.

02:08:17.000 Different animal.

02:08:17.000 Yeah, but you know what I'm saying?

02:08:19.000 It's not just being 36, it's learning later in life.

02:08:23.000 There's a thing about striking.

02:08:24.000 If you're not an explosive person and you learn later in life, man, it seems like it's really difficult.

02:08:31.000 The people that seem to pick it up are people who had a little bit of it when they were younger, like a little bit of karate, a little bit of boxing, and they kind of kept the understanding in their head, and then as they retire from other sports, then they start to do it?

02:08:43.000 Yeah.

02:08:43.000 Was that the case with you?

02:08:44.000 A little bit, yeah.

02:08:45.000 Were you doing any amateur boxing matches or anything like that while you were doing football or before you were doing football?

02:08:52.000 I was doing some jiu-jitsu.

02:08:53.000 Jiu-jitsu.

02:08:54.000 When did you get heavily into striking?

02:08:59.000 I would do it to stay in shape during the football season.

02:09:02.000 Before the Ultimate Fighter?

02:09:03.000 Yeah, before the Ultimate Fighter.

02:09:04.000 How much striking had you done?

02:09:07.000 I just did Golden Gloves, but I only had six months of training.

02:09:10.000 Six months?

02:09:10.000 Six months of boxing training.

02:09:11.000 Damn.

02:09:12.000 Yeah, see, like, now think about, whoa, look at this, Mike Perry, mean face, and I bowed to him.

02:09:17.000 Look at that mean face.

02:09:18.000 He looks like, almost like a devil-type character in a movie.

02:09:23.000 He looks like Andre Orlovsky, miniature-sized.

02:09:26.000 But he looks angry.

02:09:27.000 So mean.

02:09:29.000 He's probably one of the meanest-looking dudes in the sport.

02:09:31.000 He's an intense-looking dude.

02:09:32.000 So mean-looking.

02:09:34.000 Yeah.

02:09:34.000 He's becoming more and more comfortable, too, you know?

02:09:37.000 That's what you're seeing from him now.

02:09:38.000 Dude, there's so much pressure on Cowboy, man.

02:09:40.000 So much pressure.

02:09:41.000 I just...

02:09:42.000 So much.

02:09:43.000 I like Mike Perry, but Cowboy's a personal friend, so I'm rooting for Cowboy.

02:09:47.000 I feel exactly the same way.

02:09:49.000 I'm a personal friend with Cowboy, but I love Mike Perry, too.

02:09:53.000 Look, no matter what happens, we're going to see a hell of a fight right now.

02:09:58.000 Hopefully.

02:09:58.000 Look, I like Cowboy's new haircut, son.

02:10:00.000 I'm not mad at it.

02:10:01.000 Kind of a mohawk-ish.

02:10:03.000 Yeah, a little crazy shaved on the sides, a little patch on the top.

02:10:06.000 I like his beard.

02:10:07.000 Yeah.

02:10:08.000 Looks like a savage.

02:10:10.000 I think he had to look savage in this fight.

02:10:13.000 You know, you're fighting a savage.

02:10:14.000 You better look savage, too.

02:10:15.000 Match the savage.

02:10:16.000 Here we go.

02:10:17.000 Look at these two.

02:10:19.000 I know.

02:10:20.000 I'm nervous.

02:10:20.000 Me, too.

02:10:21.000 I'm a little nervous.

02:10:22.000 There's a few fights that make me nervous.

02:10:23.000 Cowboy looks super angry.

02:10:24.000 Yeah, he does.

02:10:25.000 You think Cowboy flips off Winklejohn after he wins?

02:10:28.000 I don't know if he does.

02:10:29.000 Well, let's say head kick KOs.

02:10:31.000 Maybe.

02:10:32.000 That's Cowboy, dude.

02:10:34.000 Since I've known Cowboys hate Winklejohn.

02:10:36.000 Maybe something to it.

02:10:37.000 Let's see what happens here.

02:10:39.000 Damn, he looks disciplined.

02:10:40.000 Look at Mike Perry striking.

02:10:42.000 Hands up high.

02:10:43.000 Light on the feet.

02:10:44.000 Oh, shit.

02:10:45.000 He's trying to knock him out.

02:10:46.000 Look for that big right hand.

02:10:49.000 Cowboy's a slow starter, so if I'm Mike Perry's coach and I know Cowboy, I go...

02:10:53.000 He likes that elbow off the break, too.

02:10:53.000 Yeah, he does.

02:10:54.000 Cowboy's fucking good in the clinch, though.

02:10:57.000 Damn.

02:10:58.000 Let's see here.

02:10:58.000 Well, that's the thing about Cowboy.

02:11:00.000 Surprisingly good wrestling.

02:11:01.000 He fucks people up with that.

02:11:03.000 Oh, dude.

02:11:03.000 I've seen him fucking amazing wrestling.

02:11:05.000 They forget.

02:11:05.000 They forget because he's got...

02:11:06.000 He has a knee pick that he does here.

02:11:07.000 That's amazing.

02:11:08.000 He lifts his left arm and knee picks dudes all the time.

02:11:11.000 Well, he also, like, he's been...

02:11:13.000 That was a nice knee to the body.

02:11:14.000 That shit was sharp.

02:11:15.000 Oh, Cowboy said he'd trade with you all day.

02:11:18.000 But Perry's knee was very good as well, though.

02:11:20.000 But, um...

02:11:21.000 See, the thing about Cowboy is...

02:11:25.000 He seems like a fun guy, right?

02:11:27.000 He's always partying and driving around in his jet ski and getting wild.

02:11:32.000 Jumping on a plane and shit.

02:11:33.000 Yeah, all that stuff.

02:11:34.000 So people think, oh, this guy's just wild.

02:11:36.000 He's also a seriously skilled fighter.

02:11:39.000 Oh, my God.

02:11:40.000 A lot of that is a little bit of a smokescreen.

02:11:42.000 He's absolutely an adrenaline junkie, but he's a very skilled fighter.

02:11:46.000 He's a professional.

02:11:46.000 Look at that inside leg kick.

02:11:47.000 Just lit up that inside leg.

02:11:49.000 He can do it from all angles.

02:11:50.000 Yeah, and look, has he had some rough fights?

02:11:53.000 Yeah.

02:11:53.000 Against the best in the world, though.

02:11:55.000 You're gonna get that.

02:11:56.000 This is a crazy-ass fucking sport he's doing.

02:11:59.000 He also has over 40 fights.

02:12:00.000 Exactly.

02:12:01.000 And you're throwing bones at each other at a high velocity.

02:12:03.000 You're gonna get some knockouts.

02:12:05.000 You're gonna give some, you're gonna get some.

02:12:07.000 It's just part of the program.

02:12:08.000 But cowboy, look at that.

02:12:09.000 Good head movement there.

02:12:11.000 Cowboy's still here.

02:12:12.000 Dude, I forget how big...

02:12:14.000 Oh!

02:12:14.000 Damn!

02:12:15.000 He's biting his mouthpiece and just going forward.

02:12:18.000 Because Cowboy's fucking tall.

02:12:19.000 I thought Perry was a lot shorter.

02:12:21.000 Perry's fucking big.

02:12:23.000 I think he's six feet tall.

02:12:24.000 Jesus, man.

02:12:25.000 He's a tank, too, man.

02:12:26.000 He's a tank.

02:12:27.000 He's a real thick dude.

02:12:28.000 Remember when you used to have his girl in his corner?

02:12:30.000 Then he lost.

02:12:31.000 He was like, you know what?

02:12:31.000 Probably not anymore, huh?

02:12:33.000 She was like, rip his head off!

02:12:35.000 He can't make 55. Fuck.

02:12:37.000 Look how thick he is.

02:12:38.000 Cowboy can.

02:12:39.000 God, it's tough on Cowboy as he gets older too, dude.

02:12:41.000 I mean, maybe Perry can make 55. Maybe I'm wrong.

02:12:44.000 Maybe he can kill himself and get like Rumble Johnson used to do.

02:12:47.000 He looks great at 70. Damn.

02:12:49.000 That lead uppercut is fucking scary.

02:12:51.000 It's good, but he's doing it on the outside and Donald's slipping away from it.

02:12:54.000 Now, they sparred a lot before.

02:12:56.000 They did a lot of sparring before.

02:12:58.000 That can kind of fuck up fights.

02:12:59.000 Like when I fought Andre Arlovsky, we sparred a bunch together.

02:13:02.000 So when we fought, you were super tentative because you knew what the guy was good at, so you wouldn't throw your normal shit.

02:13:08.000 So it makes for a more boring fight sometimes.

02:13:10.000 In Cowboy's side, though, I think psychologically it probably helps him because he's already fought this guy before.

02:13:16.000 And if he did get the better of him in training, it doesn't mean you're dealing with the same Mike Perry.

02:13:21.000 I'm sure Mike Perry's way better now, but if they did train...

02:13:25.000 And Cowboy did get the best of them, then that shit's probably on both of their minds right now.

02:13:30.000 There's just no way it's not.

02:13:31.000 And that's a psychological edge that Cowboy would like.

02:13:34.000 Oh, side control!

02:13:35.000 Cowboy's nasty off his back, man.

02:13:37.000 Look at this, though.

02:13:37.000 Side control.

02:13:38.000 He reminds me a lot of Anthony Pedas off his back, where they're so explosive.

02:13:41.000 Even if you know a triangle's coming, they're fucking...

02:13:44.000 They're really, really sneaky, man.

02:13:45.000 Well, let's see.

02:13:46.000 Side control's gonna be tough to do anything.

02:13:47.000 This is not somewhere he wants to be.

02:13:49.000 Let's see how he gets out of this.

02:13:51.000 Cowboy, I don't think he minds this.

02:13:52.000 He rolls him.

02:13:52.000 I don't think he minds this.

02:13:53.000 He rolls him.

02:13:54.000 He'll take this all day.

02:13:55.000 Oh, that was beautiful.

02:13:57.000 Yeah, I encourage the takedown.

02:13:58.000 Oh my God, that was beautiful.

02:14:00.000 That was beautiful.

02:14:01.000 Go to Mount, Cowboy.

02:14:02.000 Oh, he's going to smash him.

02:14:03.000 He can go to Mount, though.

02:14:04.000 But this is the thing that Mike Perry was saying, that he would do to him in the gym.

02:14:07.000 And Cowboy's doing it to him right now.

02:14:09.000 See, Cowboy's super confident here.

02:14:11.000 Cowboy's grappling's phenomenal, man.

02:14:13.000 It's phenomenal, but not only that.

02:14:14.000 He trapped that arm.

02:14:15.000 He can sock him in the fucking face.

02:14:17.000 He's been torturing this guy for years, right?

02:14:20.000 Or for, not years.

02:14:22.000 Maybe a few weeks.

02:14:23.000 A couple weeks.

02:14:24.000 Maybe a few spa sessions.

02:14:24.000 Dude, he has him crucified.

02:14:26.000 I made that up.

02:14:27.000 What he is doing, though, is exercising some serious confidence in his maneuvers.

02:14:33.000 Look at this.

02:14:34.000 He lost it, though.

02:14:35.000 He lost the position.

02:14:36.000 He lost it.

02:14:37.000 He's on his back.

02:14:37.000 This isn't bad for Cowboy.

02:14:40.000 Cowboy has a great guard, man.

02:14:42.000 It seems pretty good so far.

02:14:43.000 His guard's tricky.

02:14:45.000 He looks like he's trying to bait him with the right arm.

02:14:48.000 Cowboy's triangle's fucking filthy, man.

02:14:50.000 Ow, knee to the ass pipe.

02:14:52.000 Where are you allowed to hit back there?

02:14:55.000 Anything goes.

02:14:56.000 Anything but the snack.

02:14:56.000 As long as you don't hit the scrotum.

02:14:58.000 But you're kind of hitting super close to the snack.

02:15:00.000 Dude, you're hitting the tank.

02:15:01.000 It's like the house next door to you getting bombed on.

02:15:03.000 Look at this armbar attempt.

02:15:04.000 Oh, he spikes him.

02:15:05.000 And he's about to break his arm.

02:15:07.000 He's going to hold onto it.

02:15:07.000 He's breaking his arm.

02:15:08.000 No, no, no.

02:15:08.000 He's passing over it.

02:15:09.000 He's passing over it.

02:15:10.000 Oh, cowboy's breaking his fucking arm.

02:15:12.000 That's it!

02:15:12.000 That's a wrap!

02:15:13.000 Fuck yeah, cowboy!

02:15:15.000 That's a wrap, son!

02:15:15.000 Fuck yeah!

02:15:16.000 That's a wrap, son!

02:15:17.000 Fuck yeah, cowboy!

02:15:19.000 You know how big of a moment that is for cowboy?

02:15:21.000 Didn't take a shot and got an arm bar.

02:15:22.000 Didn't take a big shot.

02:15:23.000 Look at him!

02:15:24.000 Look!

02:15:25.000 I was like, come at me, motherfucker!

02:15:28.000 I love it!

02:15:29.000 Look at this, look at this.

02:15:30.000 Talking all that shit.

02:15:32.000 You gotta appreciate it, man.

02:15:33.000 Dude.

02:15:35.000 You get kicked out of your own gym.

02:15:36.000 Here comes this kid, too.

02:15:37.000 He just had a baby boy.

02:15:39.000 I don't think that's what he was doing.

02:15:40.000 He was telling his wife to bring his kid up?

02:15:41.000 Bring his kid.

02:15:42.000 That's what it is.

02:15:43.000 Oh, man.

02:15:44.000 That's what it is.

02:15:44.000 That's phenomenal.

02:15:45.000 It wasn't an anger thing.

02:15:46.000 That's phenomenal.

02:15:48.000 That was he wants his son.

02:15:49.000 Oh, my goodness.

02:15:50.000 Oh, what a cute little fella.

02:15:51.000 Wow.

02:15:53.000 Dude, how happy is that guy?

02:15:54.000 Wow.

02:15:54.000 What a great frickin' win for Cowboy.

02:15:57.000 He looks so confident, dude.

02:15:59.000 Look how confident he looked.

02:16:00.000 And I think some of that has to be...

02:16:02.000 There's his grandma, too.

02:16:03.000 Not just that he's a really good fighter.

02:16:05.000 But also that they've sparred before, he knew he had his number.

02:16:09.000 He knew he had his number.

02:16:10.000 Well, if it went to the ground, especially.

02:16:12.000 Dude.

02:16:13.000 But he had his number standing up.

02:16:14.000 Oh my god, that is cute.

02:16:15.000 Even standing up, he didn't get hit with any big shots.

02:16:17.000 Yeah, he's moving.

02:16:19.000 Dude, he looked smooth as fuck.

02:16:20.000 He looked super polished standing up.

02:16:23.000 What a big win for Cowboy.

02:16:24.000 It looked like he was about to snap his fucking arm, too.

02:16:26.000 Hey man, he might have broke it.

02:16:27.000 We don't even know.

02:16:28.000 I mean, he was on his back.

02:16:29.000 Whoosh!

02:16:30.000 Cowboy's guard, man.

02:16:31.000 Very underrated.

02:16:32.000 Gets spiked.

02:16:33.000 Does he trap the leg?

02:16:34.000 Nope.

02:16:34.000 Spiking never works, unless you rampage in the 80s.

02:16:37.000 Doesn't let go.

02:16:38.000 Turns him, and then holds him belly down.

02:16:40.000 Gets that arm, and now when he arches his back up, like, dude, there's a ton of fucking torque.

02:16:46.000 Look at this.

02:16:47.000 That arm is in trouble.

02:16:48.000 Look at Cowboy's face.

02:16:50.000 Look at his grandma right there.

02:16:52.000 Dude, his arm might have went sideways.

02:16:53.000 Look at this again.

02:16:54.000 Look at this from this angle.

02:16:55.000 Look at where the arm is.

02:16:57.000 He was already tapping.

02:16:58.000 Yeah.

02:16:58.000 Look at where his arm is, though.

02:17:00.000 It's almost like he's doing it.

02:17:01.000 He's getting it like this way.

02:17:03.000 And twerking it.

02:17:04.000 Yeah, he's getting it like that way.

02:17:07.000 Joint manipulation.

02:17:08.000 Yeah, he's not getting it like this.

02:17:09.000 It looked like he wasn't getting it like this straight and that way.

02:17:11.000 I agree.

02:17:12.000 Like to the side.

02:17:12.000 Yeah, it looked like it was almost like this.

02:17:14.000 That'll rip your shit apart, man.

02:17:16.000 That's tremendous.

02:17:17.000 What a big win for Cowboy.

02:17:19.000 Again, I like Mike Perry.

02:17:21.000 It has nothing to do with Mike Perry.

02:17:23.000 I just know Cowboy's career, what he's been through.

02:17:25.000 He had a baby.

02:17:26.000 He gets kicked out of his gym.

02:17:28.000 His back's against the wall.

02:17:29.000 He loses this one.

02:17:30.000 Everyone's telling him to retire.

02:17:32.000 It's fucking Donald Cerrone, man.

02:17:34.000 He looked goddamn good, too.

02:17:35.000 Hell yeah, he looked good.

02:17:35.000 And the fact that he came to them and said, Hey, I don't think it's fair that you guys train this guy.

02:17:42.000 You know, it just doesn't make any sense.

02:17:43.000 We've been together forever.

02:17:45.000 And they said, okay, well, we're going to talk it through and have a meeting.

02:17:48.000 And then they come back after the meeting and go, yeah, we're going to train him.

02:17:51.000 You can't come here anymore.

02:17:52.000 It's like, what?

02:17:53.000 But also, would it have him win?

02:17:56.000 The interesting thing, too, is, you know, Cowboy, they go, is Greg Jackson going to corner you next fight?

02:18:01.000 He goes, yeah, just not this one.

02:18:03.000 Dude, did you see this shit?

02:18:03.000 Yeah, that movie looks dope as shit.

02:18:04.000 What is it called?

02:18:05.000 Overlord.

02:18:05.000 Dude, this shit looks so good.

02:18:07.000 I've been seeing tons of people talk about it today.

02:18:09.000 I said it's really good.

02:18:10.000 Oh, is it out already?

02:18:11.000 It came out this week.

02:18:11.000 Oh my god, it looks so good.

02:18:13.000 It used to be a video game, right?

02:18:13.000 No, I don't think it has anything to do with it.

02:18:15.000 I think so, dude.

02:18:16.000 Am I crazy?

02:18:17.000 I'm thinking Wolfenstein.

02:18:19.000 It definitely could have been a video game.

02:18:20.000 It might be a video game, though, still.

02:18:22.000 If it's not, they fucked up.

02:18:24.000 Do you remember Wolfenstein?

02:18:25.000 Why would they make it a video game with the release?

02:18:26.000 I know!

02:18:27.000 People would play the shit out of that.

02:18:29.000 I was balls deep in Waffenstein as a kid.

02:18:31.000 Can you imagine what has to come into place to make a video game?

02:18:34.000 Like, imagine if you have a movie, and you go, man, we gotta make a video game to get this movie, like, to come out with it.

02:18:39.000 It'd be the perfect video game.

02:18:40.000 What is it?

02:18:41.000 Overlord Film Review, great video game movie that's not based on a video game movie.

02:18:48.000 That is so funny.

02:18:49.000 I figured it was a video game.

02:18:52.000 The name Overlord, the poster looks like a fucking Wolfenstein.

02:18:55.000 That is so ridiculously funny.

02:18:57.000 That's funny.

02:18:57.000 That's so funny.

02:18:58.000 That's so funny it hurts my feelings.

02:19:01.000 Yeah, man, that's what it seemed like.

02:19:03.000 It seemed like a video game.

02:19:04.000 100%.

02:19:04.000 Dude, look at Cowboy.

02:19:06.000 He's so happy.

02:19:07.000 How can he not be?

02:19:08.000 Your son's there chewing on a monster can.

02:19:11.000 Shout out to Monster.

02:19:12.000 Don't let the son actually get that monster into his little system.

02:19:15.000 Yeah, no, that would not be good.

02:19:16.000 Can you imagine that?

02:19:17.000 He gets a hold of that.

02:19:18.000 And it's open, too.

02:19:19.000 And it looks like all's good in the end.

02:19:23.000 Wow.

02:19:23.000 Beautiful.

02:19:25.000 No, no, no.

02:19:25.000 That's okay.

02:19:26.000 That's okay.

02:19:27.000 I'll say hi to him when I see him and congratulate him.

02:19:31.000 He's awesome.

02:19:31.000 Dude, what a big one in his hometown, man.

02:19:34.000 So happy for him.

02:19:35.000 That was a stressful one.

02:19:36.000 Here's the thing, though, man.

02:19:37.000 He looked good as fuck.

02:19:38.000 It wasn't just that he won.

02:19:40.000 Dude, he looked smooth.

02:19:42.000 How about Paul Felder trains at Jackson's, too?

02:19:44.000 He knows what's going on.

02:19:45.000 Most wins UFC history.

02:19:46.000 Paul's with Duke.

02:19:47.000 He was at Jackson's forever.

02:19:48.000 Was he?

02:19:49.000 Yeah.

02:19:49.000 Before that?

02:19:50.000 Yeah.

02:19:50.000 Before Duke?

02:19:51.000 Yeah.

02:19:51.000 Dude, he loves Duke.

02:19:53.000 He loves Duke.

02:19:54.000 Look at that powerful Joe Schilling.

02:19:56.000 His grandma's shaking, man.

02:19:58.000 With Donald.

02:19:59.000 Dude, how cool is it?

02:20:00.000 Your son's there.

02:20:01.000 So happy.

02:20:01.000 Look how fucking happy he is.

02:20:03.000 Look at that fucking animal.

02:20:06.000 Love it.

02:20:07.000 I wonder what Cowboy's saying.

02:20:08.000 I love it.

02:20:09.000 Yeah, he's a guy that, like, man, look at that resume.

02:20:12.000 Cowboy, Hall of Famer, man.

02:20:14.000 Yeah.

02:20:15.000 100%.

02:20:15.000 He's on some big fights, won big fights, but most finishes in UFC history, most wins in UFC history, Hall of Famer.

02:20:21.000 Yeah, even if he never wins a title, he's a Hall of Famer.

02:20:24.000 I agree.

02:20:25.000 He's the one guy, I think he passes your eyes, the one guy who never won a title that...

02:20:29.000 It becomes more popular, too.

02:20:31.000 Yeah.

02:20:32.000 Well, you know, Uriah's been thinking about getting back in there.

02:20:34.000 No.

02:20:35.000 Yeah.

02:20:36.000 No, the game's passed you by, dude.

02:20:38.000 He gets bored, man.

02:20:39.000 He has so much shit going on.

02:20:40.000 He's like, you just shot a movie.

02:20:42.000 He's healing up, and he's thinking about it.

02:20:44.000 No, it's a bad idea.

02:20:45.000 How about they ditch the flyweights?

02:20:47.000 This is super impressive, man.

02:20:49.000 What Cowboy did?

02:20:49.000 It's super impressive that he never let it go.

02:20:52.000 That was tight as shit.

02:20:53.000 Dude, slamming is old school, but yeah.

02:20:55.000 Yeah, but it's the way in the transition.

02:20:57.000 For sure, to stay on it.

02:20:58.000 Yeah, because even when Mike was doing the right thing by passing over the top, it looked like he was almost out.

02:21:03.000 But the wrist control that he had, that Cowboy had, and keeping it in the position where he wanted it.

02:21:08.000 I agree.

02:21:08.000 And then the squeeze.

02:21:09.000 I think there's a, like, again, him and Anthony Pettis are guys when it goes to the ground, because people think of him as knockout artists, which they are in their great stand-up, but Anthony Pettis and him on the ground are fucking tricky, man, from their back.

02:21:21.000 Most people aren't from their back, but Pettis and him from their back is nasty.

02:21:25.000 They both dive on shit real quick, too.

02:21:27.000 It's explosive, man.

02:21:29.000 It's basic stuff, but it's explosive.

02:21:31.000 Cowboy started off with Muay Thai.

02:21:33.000 Look at this.

02:21:34.000 Look how quick that is.

02:21:35.000 That's so pretty.

02:21:36.000 Muay Thai with Dwayne Ludwig.

02:21:37.000 That's so pretty.

02:21:38.000 Look at this.

02:21:38.000 Boom.

02:21:39.000 The slam and tightening.

02:21:40.000 I would like to see that.

02:21:42.000 Oh, look how he's got that trapped in like that.

02:21:44.000 Yo, he's fucking that elbow up.

02:21:46.000 Yeah, he's going to be sore tomorrow.

02:21:47.000 Woo!

02:21:48.000 He had a tap.

02:21:49.000 Wow.

02:21:49.000 Like you were saying, it's a tough loss for Mike Perry because you want to see where he's at, right?

02:21:54.000 Because of the guys that he's beat.

02:21:55.000 You do see where he's at, though.

02:21:56.000 Donald's a step ahead of him.

02:21:58.000 At least.

02:21:59.000 At least a step.

02:22:00.000 Maybe more.

02:22:01.000 Yes.

02:22:01.000 But Mike Perry looked better than he's ever looked before.

02:22:04.000 And he's just fighting the guy who's the best guy he's ever fought before.

02:22:08.000 And when Mike Perry moves in, he moves in with his hands up high, his chins tucked, his techniques on point.

02:22:13.000 He's not done.

02:22:15.000 No, definitely not done.

02:22:16.000 I don't even mean in his career.

02:22:18.000 I mean in his progress.

02:22:19.000 He's going to get better and better.

02:22:21.000 Yeah, he just got the Jacksons.

02:22:22.000 And already, from beating Paul Felder, he even looked better as a fighter against Cowboy.

02:22:28.000 So the next one, maybe just don't give him the caliber of Cowboy.

02:22:32.000 He's not there yet.

02:22:33.000 Well, people sleep on Cowboy Man.

02:22:36.000 They forget.

02:22:37.000 They think for some reason he's done.

02:22:38.000 But just because he got knocked out by Darren Till and then lost to Leon Roberts.

02:22:43.000 Leon Roberts is a really good fighter.

02:22:45.000 Is it Roberts or Edwards?

02:22:46.000 Did I say Edwards or Robert?

02:22:48.000 I don't know.

02:22:49.000 Now I'm confused.

02:22:50.000 It is Edwards, right?

02:22:51.000 It's Edwards, right?

02:22:52.000 Leon Roberts or Edwards that fought Cowboy?

02:22:54.000 Cowboy's last fight.

02:22:55.000 Edwards.

02:22:55.000 I said Roberts.

02:22:57.000 It's all good, dude.

02:22:58.000 Damn.

02:22:59.000 I've had four beers.

02:23:00.000 Sorry, Leon.

02:23:01.000 Sorry, Leon.

02:23:01.000 Yeah.

02:23:02.000 I got a contact high.

02:23:04.000 Dude, doing sober October, did you get fucked up right away after?

02:23:09.000 Sorry to Leon Edwards.

02:23:11.000 But my point was, yeah, we got fucked up.

02:23:13.000 Big time.

02:23:14.000 Do you get more fucked up now because you took 30 days off?

02:23:16.000 I don't think so.

02:23:17.000 It seems exactly the same.

02:23:18.000 You on November now?

02:23:20.000 No, it's supposed to be no remember November.

02:23:22.000 No, it's no nut November.

02:23:24.000 Yeah, maybe in your weird camp.

02:23:26.000 Not my fucking camp.

02:23:27.000 Hell not.

02:23:28.000 I have no camp with that, bro.

02:23:29.000 All your fashion lovers get together.

02:23:30.000 Hell not.

02:23:31.000 There's no nut November here.

02:23:32.000 I'm trying to get rid of these loads.

02:23:35.000 I'm not trying to keep them around.

02:23:36.000 Bus nuts November?

02:23:37.000 Bus loads December?

02:23:38.000 I remember hearing about tantric sex.

02:23:41.000 Tantric sex makes sex better.

02:23:43.000 Oh, what is this?

02:23:44.000 Crazy commercial.

02:23:45.000 Great Raptor, though.

02:23:46.000 Look at that.

02:23:47.000 Forrest Griffin.

02:23:48.000 Still doing the damn thing.

02:23:51.000 Dude, how about T.J. vs.

02:23:53.000 Cejudo?

02:23:54.000 But at 25. Well, it doesn't make sense that it's going to be at 25. Why would they do that?

02:23:58.000 The UFC's really going to get rid of the flyweight division.

02:24:00.000 They're done.

02:24:01.000 That seems strange.

02:24:02.000 I know.

02:24:03.000 Why wouldn't Cejudo come up?

02:24:04.000 Because I guess T.J. wants to be a double champ and that's the last fight?

02:24:07.000 But it's for a belt that's for a division that's not around anymore.

02:24:10.000 Well, maybe they decided to do it because of the historical implications.

02:24:13.000 Because if T.J. can drop down and beat him...

02:24:16.000 He's the last champ?

02:24:18.000 Yeah, he's the last champ and he wins the title in two divisions.

02:24:21.000 Unless he wants to go up to 45, you know, and then if he does, maybe he builds up after a while and goes up to 45 for a few fights.

02:24:31.000 Yeah, maybe.

02:24:33.000 There's not a whole lot for him.

02:24:34.000 Well, there's some good fights for him at 45. For sure.

02:24:38.000 45 is going to be a tough one for him.

02:24:40.000 It's going to be tough.

02:24:41.000 For sure.

02:24:41.000 35, there's still some fights.

02:24:43.000 Marlon Marais is right there.

02:24:44.000 Yeah.

02:24:45.000 No, I agree.

02:24:46.000 Jimmy Rivera just won his last one.

02:24:47.000 35 is his natural weight class.

02:24:49.000 100%.

02:24:50.000 But if he's working with that...

02:24:52.000 What's that guy's name?

02:24:54.000 What is his crazy strength and conditioning?

02:24:56.000 Salamita, is that his name?

02:24:57.000 I forget.

02:24:59.000 What is TJ Dillashaw?

02:25:02.000 Jamie's searching for it.

02:25:03.000 That sounds great.

02:25:07.000 Goddammit, I hate when that marijuana clouds my memory and ruins my argument.

02:25:11.000 But I have no excuse.

02:25:13.000 You got hotbox, son.

02:25:14.000 Oh, there we go.

02:25:16.000 I'm contact tight.

02:25:17.000 This stuff is strong.

02:25:18.000 Secondhand smoke.

02:25:20.000 TJ Versa, who does a good fight, though?

02:25:22.000 It's a very good fight.

02:25:24.000 Can't find his strength and conditioning coach?

02:25:28.000 It's all good.

02:25:30.000 Oh yeah, Sam Calavita.

02:25:31.000 Calavita.

02:25:31.000 There you go.

02:25:32.000 That's right.

02:25:32.000 What did I say?

02:25:34.000 Something close to that.

02:25:34.000 I said Salamita.

02:25:35.000 It's fucking close, dude.

02:25:36.000 You know why?

02:25:36.000 Because there's a comic named Fran Salamita.

02:25:39.000 That's why.

02:25:41.000 So spell it.

02:25:42.000 K-A-L-A-V-I-T-T-A. Calavita.

02:25:46.000 Calavita?

02:25:48.000 Calavita.

02:25:50.000 Yeah, he hasn't fought in a grip.

02:25:52.000 TJ raves about this guy.

02:25:54.000 I know.

02:25:55.000 You know, when he first started working with him, he didn't want to tell me his name because he didn't want to get him out on the podcast.

02:26:00.000 He goes, I don't want everyone working with him.

02:26:02.000 I'm not going to say his name.

02:26:02.000 I'm like, dude, come on.

02:26:04.000 He's hilarious.

02:26:05.000 That's interesting, but probably accurate.

02:26:07.000 Yeah.

02:26:08.000 It's probably accurate.

02:26:09.000 You find out about a scientist out there that's just doing it for the art.

02:26:12.000 Gives you a huge advantage?

02:26:14.000 Yeah, I mean this guy seems like he knows so much about performance.

02:26:17.000 So now him and TJ have that, they went on that gym, Munoz, and it's him, right?

02:26:21.000 And then that's got Aaron Pico there.

02:26:23.000 Yeah.

02:26:24.000 That little fucking monster.

02:26:26.000 Yeah.

02:26:27.000 Aaron Pico is terrifying.

02:26:28.000 Oh my God.

02:26:29.000 That left hook that he KO'd that dude with.

02:26:31.000 Biggest prospect in MMA. It was like a shovel hook, like a left uppercut.

02:26:34.000 His body shots?

02:26:36.000 Nasty.

02:26:37.000 But that one to the chin where the dude was out cold and just fell back, like Jesus.

02:26:42.000 He takes shots, he just doesn't respect his opponents because he fucks up world-class guys all the time in the gym.

02:26:47.000 So when they give him like, oh, here's Larry, he's 4-0, he's like, fuck a Larry, and just walk forward.

02:26:53.000 But they say in the gym, against some of the best guys in the world, he starches them.

02:26:58.000 Boom!

02:26:58.000 That is such a nasty hook, man.

02:27:01.000 And it's so perfectly placed.

02:27:03.000 Under the right arm.

02:27:05.000 Look at that.

02:27:06.000 Dude, that is crazy.

02:27:07.000 Can I see that one more time?

02:27:09.000 Do it from the beginning.

02:27:10.000 Look how slick this is.

02:27:12.000 Look at this.

02:27:12.000 He sees the right hand coming and he hooks under it and right on the chin.

02:27:17.000 And just slides away from him.

02:27:19.000 They're doing right by him because they're not throwing him to the wolves right away.

02:27:21.000 You know, like if he was in the UFC, he'd be fighting fucking top ten guys right away.

02:27:25.000 Yeah, look at that nasty left hook to the fucking liver right there.

02:27:29.000 He's knocked two guys out to the body now.

02:27:31.000 Oh man, liver shots are horrific.

02:27:33.000 Nothing you can do.

02:27:34.000 Might be worse than getting knocked out.

02:27:36.000 There's literally nothing you can do.

02:27:38.000 Kid's a tank too.

02:27:39.000 And a super high level wrestler.

02:27:41.000 Wrestler and boxer.

02:27:43.000 Yeah, everything.

02:27:44.000 He can do it all.

02:27:46.000 Think about this.

02:27:47.000 Freddie Roach has cornered two MMA fighters.

02:27:49.000 Him and GSP. So there must be something special about that fucking kid.

02:27:54.000 Damn.

02:27:55.000 And, you know, I like the story that he lost his first fight.

02:27:58.000 I like that.

02:27:59.000 I was hyping up so much on you.

02:28:01.000 I was working that fight.

02:28:02.000 But that's a cold, hard reminder.

02:28:06.000 Well, I ask Scott Coker, I go, why would you give him that big fucking dude?

02:28:09.000 He goes, Brendan, we ask guys you would know, vets, and they would not fight him.

02:28:14.000 He's like, there's like this mythical fucking aura about this kid.

02:28:17.000 No one wants to fight him.

02:28:18.000 This is the only guy we could find.

02:28:20.000 Wow.

02:28:21.000 It was a terrible match for him.

02:28:22.000 He's fucking 7-0, bigger guy, two weight classes up.

02:28:26.000 It was a bad idea.

02:28:28.000 Also, Pico's never fought before and fights at Mass Square Garden in his first fight.

02:28:32.000 I didn't know the guy was that much bigger than him.

02:28:34.000 I just thought the guy just caught him with a shot.

02:28:36.000 The guy was a lot bigger.

02:28:37.000 Yeah?

02:28:37.000 Yeah.

02:28:38.000 A lot bigger dude.

02:28:39.000 Bad idea.

02:28:40.000 But what did the guy weigh in at?

02:28:43.000 I mean, they weighed in the same, but his original weight class is higher up.

02:28:47.000 Yeah, he's a bigger fighter.

02:28:49.000 But they just thought Aaron was so special, he'd fucking starch him.

02:28:52.000 Well, didn't the dude have a marginal record, like he'd only fought once?

02:28:56.000 He was 7-0.

02:28:57.000 Was he really?

02:28:58.000 Pretty sure he was 7-0.

02:28:59.000 Damn.

02:28:59.000 Yeah.

02:29:00.000 Pico's, you know, 0-0.

02:29:01.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

02:29:02.000 I didn't know he was 7-0.

02:29:03.000 No, yeah, I was like, because I asked Coker, you know, who's great, and I go, why the fuck would you do that?

02:29:07.000 He goes, Brendan, it's the only guy who would take this fight.

02:29:10.000 Wow.

02:29:10.000 I guess he knew something.

02:29:12.000 Yeah, I guess.

02:29:13.000 What's homeboy's name?

02:29:14.000 Who he lost to?

02:29:15.000 Yeah.

02:29:16.000 I forget.

02:29:17.000 But it's crazy.

02:29:18.000 What's that?

02:29:18.000 Zach Freeman.

02:29:19.000 That's right.

02:29:19.000 Zach Freeman.

02:29:20.000 He's 7-0, right?

02:29:21.000 He's probably 8-0 now.

02:29:24.000 Unless he lost one since then.

02:29:26.000 That was a while ago.

02:29:30.000 He's 9-3 now.

02:29:32.000 Yeah, he's lost...

02:29:33.000 I don't know.

02:29:36.000 Pull up the thing so we can see it.

02:29:37.000 Two losses before he fought Aaron Pico.

02:29:39.000 So what was his record when he fought Pico?

02:29:41.000 Oh, here we go.

02:29:41.000 Must have been 8-2.

02:29:43.000 Or 7-2.

02:29:44.000 7-2.

02:29:45.000 Okay, so he lost to Sad Awad.

02:29:47.000 That guy's fucking good.

02:29:48.000 But still, when he fought Pico, he was 7-2.

02:29:51.000 So nine fights?

02:29:53.000 Mm-hmm.

02:29:53.000 That's a shitload for a guy zero.

02:29:56.000 So he's seven and two.

02:29:57.000 A lot of experience.

02:29:57.000 I think this guy was 0-0 was my point.

02:30:00.000 Yeah.

02:30:00.000 Fucking nuts, man.

02:30:01.000 And, you know, fighting in Madison Square Garden, first debut, you know, you only get one debut.

02:30:07.000 It's a big deal.

02:30:08.000 You're young.

02:30:09.000 A lot of pressure.

02:30:09.000 You're on TV. Everyone knows how good you are.

02:30:12.000 And the other guy's good.

02:30:12.000 And you got caught.

02:30:13.000 You get some dickhead in a suit and tie in the boxing.

02:30:16.000 You're the next LeBron James of the MMA. His name's Brendan.

02:30:19.000 Yeah.

02:30:20.000 They just fill your butthole with smoke.

02:30:23.000 They just take your butt and go...

02:30:24.000 I still believe it, though.

02:30:25.000 Yeah.

02:30:28.000 Like a balloon, son.

02:30:30.000 You ever see Franco Columbo make a hot water bottle explode by blowing into it?

02:30:33.000 No.

02:30:34.000 That's what people were doing to his butt.

02:30:35.000 Old school, man.

02:30:36.000 He's blowing smoke deep up his butt.

02:30:38.000 Dude, I was one of those guys when I stand by it.

02:30:40.000 But he was right.

02:30:40.000 You were right.

02:30:41.000 It was a lesson, and it's just part of being a human being in competition.

02:30:45.000 Look at Franco Columbo.

02:30:47.000 Jacked.

02:30:48.000 He would blow up a hot water bottle.

02:30:51.000 That's how strong his fucking lungs were.

02:30:52.000 Dude!

02:30:53.000 Until it would explode.

02:30:55.000 Holy shit.

02:30:56.000 Look how many people are watching that bullshit.

02:30:57.000 This lady's like, oh my god, I can't believe it.

02:31:00.000 Do you know how fucking strong your lungs have to be to make this happen?

02:31:03.000 Like, look at them heaving.

02:31:04.000 You know you have nothing else going on if you attended this live?

02:31:07.000 That guy is a tank of a human.

02:31:09.000 That's some old school Italian Neanderthal genes.

02:31:12.000 That's some old school entertainment.

02:31:14.000 God, look at those dime pieces.

02:31:16.000 I bet, look at that hot chick.

02:31:17.000 Sylvester Stallone!

02:31:19.000 Yes!

02:31:21.000 Come on, do it!

02:31:22.000 That's the Arnold set.

02:31:24.000 Dude, they were jacked.

02:31:26.000 When I watch Pumpin' Iron, I get sad that I wasn't back then hanging out with them.

02:31:30.000 They looked like they were just doing steroids, fucking girls, weed, Venice Beach.

02:31:35.000 Jacked.

02:31:35.000 It wasn't all the bums.

02:31:37.000 They're just lifting every day.

02:31:39.000 It's fucking gold.

02:31:41.000 Just getting jacked.

02:31:42.000 Yeah, that's all you care about.

02:31:43.000 Jacks and bitches.

02:31:45.000 And probably like at a level that nobody had done before the steroids, right?

02:31:49.000 So the steroids came along and all of a sudden the party got started.

02:31:53.000 Yeah.

02:31:54.000 Look at everyone they're hanging out with.

02:31:56.000 You know what I gotta tell you though.

02:31:57.000 Here's what's weird.

02:31:58.000 If you look at Arnold right there, he's Mr. Olympia.

02:32:02.000 Obviously jacked as fuck.

02:32:04.000 But...

02:32:05.000 Beautiful.

02:32:06.000 Nowhere near as big as any of the big guys that you see today.

02:32:11.000 We're talking about different steroids.

02:32:13.000 Well, it's not just that.

02:32:14.000 HGH came along in steroids.

02:32:16.000 It's not just that.

02:32:18.000 They just want to continue to get bigger.

02:32:21.000 There should really be a time, and it's hard to figure out when that time is, where you really don't want to get any bigger.

02:32:27.000 You just want to get more sculpted and more ripped and more...

02:32:32.000 You want to get more proportionate so that everything looks right, whether it's your calves or your...

02:32:36.000 I don't know jack shit.

02:32:38.000 That's why they're saying Ronnie Coleman kind of fucked everything up.

02:32:40.000 Frank Zane.

02:32:40.000 Frank, yeah.

02:32:41.000 They used to love Frank Zane, even though he was smaller than those guys.

02:32:44.000 Flex Wheeler.

02:32:45.000 Yeah.

02:32:45.000 Unbelievable symmetry.

02:32:47.000 They said Ronnie Coleman came along and was like, oh, cool story, and just was like, and they said he just fucked everything up because he's so massive.

02:32:55.000 Well, even before him, Dorian Yates.

02:32:57.000 Dorian Yates was a giant.

02:33:00.000 That motherfucker was huge.

02:33:01.000 Was he tall?

02:33:02.000 No.

02:33:03.000 He was shorter.

02:33:04.000 See, Ronnie was tall.

02:33:05.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:33:06.000 Taller for a bodybuilder.

02:33:07.000 He's taller than me.

02:33:09.000 Dorian's taller than me, but I don't think he's six feet tall.

02:33:13.000 Maybe he's six feet tall.

02:33:14.000 But anyway, in his prime, he was massive.

02:33:18.000 I mean, massive.

02:33:20.000 We're talking Ronnie Coleman massive?

02:33:21.000 He was pretty fucking big, man.

02:33:22.000 Really?

02:33:23.000 You ever see Dorian Yates' prime?

02:33:25.000 Yeah, I see his picture at Gold.

02:33:26.000 He's jacked.

02:33:26.000 I don't know enough to say who was the first guy to get super jacked like that, but he was the first Mr. Olympia that I remember seeing going, what the fuck kind of steroids are they using now?

02:33:39.000 And he talked about, he's like super open about his full cycle.

02:33:42.000 Oh really?

02:33:43.000 Oh yeah, man.

02:33:44.000 He did my podcast.

02:33:45.000 He's the best.

02:33:46.000 Have you seen the Ronnie Coleman doc on Netflix?

02:33:48.000 I haven't.

02:33:49.000 I heard it's awesome.

02:33:50.000 It's awesome.

02:33:51.000 It'll bum me out.

02:33:52.000 It'll bum me out and go, you know what?

02:33:53.000 I'm never squatting heavy ever again.

02:33:55.000 Oh, his back is destroyed, right?

02:33:56.000 Two hip replacements, back's fucked, and he has to have crutches, and he's in constant pain now.

02:34:02.000 Constant pain.

02:34:02.000 Taking fucking opiates every day.

02:34:05.000 Didn't he have multiple back surgeries?

02:34:07.000 Multiple back surgeries, fused, pinched nerves.

02:34:11.000 Okay, Dorian now is like...

02:34:13.000 He looks like me now.

02:34:14.000 He looks like...

02:34:15.000 Yeah.

02:34:16.000 Dude, he was jack city.

02:34:18.000 Jack city.

02:34:18.000 He ain't got shit on Ronnie, though.

02:34:20.000 See him on stage, though.

02:34:21.000 That's a picture.

02:34:23.000 He was bigger than that.

02:34:24.000 Look at the far left.

02:34:25.000 The far left up there.

02:34:27.000 Look at the size of that motherfucker.

02:34:30.000 Dude, look at the size of him.

02:34:33.000 He was fucking huge, man.

02:34:37.000 And shredded.

02:34:39.000 I wonder how big he was.

02:34:40.000 Worked harder than anybody, man.

02:34:42.000 Goddamn, he was huge.

02:34:43.000 They were all on the steroids, for sure.

02:34:45.000 The steroids?

02:34:45.000 For sure.

02:34:46.000 Them steroids?

02:34:47.000 They were all on all the steroids.

02:34:49.000 But for sure, that motherfucker worked hard.

02:34:52.000 As hard, if not hard, than any human being lifting weights.

02:34:56.000 Phil Heath was jacked too.

02:34:57.000 Okay, here's the question.

02:34:58.000 Phil Heath lost his last competition.

02:35:00.000 Look at this.

02:35:00.000 Look at those two.

02:35:01.000 How do you decide which one is more jacked?

02:35:03.000 That is insane to me.

02:35:04.000 That don't make any sense.

02:35:05.000 I look at those two and I go, ah!

02:35:07.000 You'd have to have an eye for it, right?

02:35:09.000 It'd have to be your thing.

02:35:09.000 Yeah, you're a jeweler.

02:35:10.000 You gotta go over that shit with a jeweler's glass.

02:35:13.000 Look for cut, cult, clarity, and the tube carrots.

02:35:16.000 Yeah, for reals.

02:35:17.000 For reals.

02:35:17.000 Look at this.

02:35:18.000 You gotta be an expert.

02:35:18.000 What the fuck, man?

02:35:19.000 Two of the greatest backs in history?

02:35:21.000 Jesus.

02:35:22.000 That looks like Ronnie top left.

02:35:23.000 I think it's the same two, yeah.

02:35:24.000 That's Ronnie Coleman on the top left, or is that Phil Heath?

02:35:26.000 I think that's Dorian Yates.

02:35:27.000 Yeah, that's Dorian Yates and Ronnie Coleman.

02:35:29.000 Ronnie Coleman's ass is out of control.

02:35:32.000 But are you saying it's Phil Heath?

02:35:34.000 I don't know.

02:35:35.000 I think that's Ronnie Coleman.

02:35:36.000 It's Ronnie Coleman?

02:35:37.000 I know Ronnie's ass.

02:35:38.000 Oh, wow, strong.

02:35:39.000 I know a Ronnie ass.

02:35:40.000 That's a Ronnie fucking...

02:35:41.000 Look at his lats.

02:35:42.000 Look at, they look like they're on a supermarket shelf covered in saran wrap.

02:35:47.000 Right?

02:35:48.000 It doesn't look like he has any fat.

02:35:50.000 They look like ribs.

02:35:51.000 Like baby back ribs that you put barbecue on.

02:35:54.000 It looks like he could...

02:35:55.000 Look at Doreen Yates.

02:35:55.000 It looks like he could pull your head right through your back.

02:36:00.000 Grab your head with your spinal column attached and just pull it out.

02:36:04.000 Like the movie Prometheus?

02:36:05.000 Yeah, just leave a hole where your cord used to be.

02:36:08.000 For sure.

02:36:09.000 Here's the thing, though.

02:36:10.000 Doreen Yates got that flat ass compared to Ronnie.

02:36:13.000 Whoa!

02:36:13.000 Flatty.

02:36:14.000 What are you flatty like a white girl in the valley?

02:36:17.000 I didn't see that.

02:36:17.000 I saw a giant booty.

02:36:19.000 Let me see that picture again.

02:36:20.000 That picture is side by side?

02:36:21.000 It was part of a different one.

02:36:24.000 Was it part of an article?

02:36:26.000 It was like one of these small onesies.

02:36:28.000 Oh, that's Phil.

02:36:29.000 Can't you just hit the back button in the browser?

02:36:32.000 I tried that.

02:36:33.000 It didn't work.

02:36:34.000 Can't you type in Dorian Yates vs.

02:36:36.000 Ronnie Coleman?

02:36:37.000 Back, big booty, or no.

02:36:39.000 Glutes?

02:36:40.000 Probably glutes is the proper term.

02:36:41.000 How about just type in Dorian Yates, big booty, or nah?

02:36:45.000 Right there.

02:36:46.000 There it is.

02:36:47.000 Come on, bro.

02:36:47.000 Okay, but he's sucking that in, man.

02:36:49.000 Sucking one in.

02:36:50.000 He's pulling his back out and sucking his butt in.

02:36:54.000 And then Ronnie Coleman's pulling the G-string.

02:36:56.000 His hungry butt is eating those underwear.

02:36:58.000 Dude, look at that ass.

02:36:59.000 First of all, there's no reason to wear those shorts, boys.

02:37:01.000 Ever.

02:37:02.000 We get it.

02:37:02.000 We got it.

02:37:03.000 We know you have a beautiful ass.

02:37:05.000 We don't need to see your asshole.

02:37:05.000 But at a certain point in time, your shorts are too little.

02:37:08.000 Dude, flat ass.

02:37:09.000 Little butt.

02:37:10.000 He's a little butt.

02:37:11.000 What?

02:37:11.000 He's a little butt.

02:37:12.000 Yeah, no look at Ronnie's fucking...

02:37:14.000 Is that Ronnie on the right?

02:37:15.000 Yes!

02:37:16.000 Oh my god, Ronnie's so big.

02:37:17.000 Flexing on him, son!

02:37:19.000 Look at that peach.

02:37:20.000 I take it back.

02:37:21.000 Yeah.

02:37:21.000 I take back what I said.

02:37:22.000 I can tell the difference.

02:37:23.000 But I can't, though.

02:37:25.000 I can't there.

02:37:26.000 Go larger again.

02:37:27.000 Go larger again.

02:37:29.000 Ronnie all day.

02:37:31.000 Look at his lower back.

02:37:33.000 What is going on there?

02:37:34.000 That's insane.

02:37:35.000 Yeah.

02:37:36.000 I guess.

02:37:37.000 They're both fucking insane.

02:37:39.000 The difference really to me is from the waist down.

02:37:42.000 Agree.

02:37:43.000 But Ronnie's legs are spread out.

02:37:46.000 See, okay.

02:37:47.000 Now it's different.

02:37:48.000 But still, Ronnie's legs are crazy.

02:37:51.000 Dude, we're talking about Ronnie's asshole.

02:37:52.000 Look at his buttocks.

02:37:53.000 Look at his buttocks.

02:37:54.000 He's got extra inches of buttocks.

02:37:57.000 Ooh, Korean Zombie just fucking looked like he'd do his ACL. Oh, it just started.

02:38:01.000 Oh, shit.

02:38:02.000 We're looking at male buttocks.

02:38:05.000 He did have a flat ass, though.

02:38:06.000 Ronnie Coleman's got an enormous ass, dude.

02:38:08.000 I know, dude.

02:38:08.000 Keep that up, Jamie.

02:38:09.000 Keep that shit up, bro.

02:38:11.000 Make it bigger.

02:38:12.000 No, keep that up.

02:38:12.000 That last picture.

02:38:13.000 Oh, shit.

02:38:14.000 Yeah, find a bet.

02:38:15.000 Get him bending over, can you?

02:38:16.000 Oh, there you go.

02:38:17.000 That's plenty.

02:38:18.000 Dude, look at his ass, dude.

02:38:20.000 That's outrageous.

02:38:20.000 It's outrageous.

02:38:21.000 That's outrageous.

02:38:22.000 Outrageous.

02:38:22.000 Let me see that last picture, Jamie.

02:38:25.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

02:38:27.000 Dornier's got that flat ass.

02:38:28.000 Look at the size of Ronnie Coleman's muscles.

02:38:31.000 Dude, it's ridiculous.

02:38:32.000 His leg muscles look like he could fucking kick through a building.

02:38:35.000 Dude, look at how How thick his back is.

02:38:37.000 Right, okay, here's the question.

02:38:38.000 Now his back's destroyed, his hips destroyed, his knees are destroyed.

02:38:42.000 Do you think that they did things differently?

02:38:45.000 They said Ronnie did.

02:38:47.000 When you watch The Doctor, like they have everyone who he competed against, even Jay Cutler, they go, dude, we would train with Ronnie sometimes, and no one wanted to train with him because he would just do things we wouldn't do.

02:38:58.000 Like what?

02:38:59.000 Like 800-pound squats all the fucking time.

02:39:01.000 Look at the size of him.

02:39:04.000 Jesus.

02:39:05.000 All the bodybuilders say he's the biggest freak ever.

02:39:07.000 How strong he was, too.

02:39:09.000 They said he just...

02:39:09.000 The amount of work you do inside that weight room was insane.

02:39:13.000 The crazy thing was when he was a cop.

02:39:14.000 Oh, Yair Rodriguez with the beautiful leg kicks inside and then outside.

02:39:17.000 You imagine getting pulled over by him for weed?

02:39:19.000 Oh my god.

02:39:20.000 You have fucking more illegal drugs in your system than me.

02:39:22.000 What the fuck are you talking about?

02:39:23.000 You'd be like, what are we talking about here?

02:39:25.000 Come on, dude.

02:39:25.000 Let me go, right?

02:39:26.000 That would be ironic.

02:39:27.000 It'd be hilarious.

02:39:29.000 That would be super ironic.

02:39:31.000 Because that guy's on illegal drugs.

02:39:33.000 Like, literally.

02:39:34.000 You can't get that big without him.

02:39:35.000 It's not possible.

02:39:37.000 Dude, Jake Cutler in these interviews, he just...

02:39:40.000 I don't know if...

02:39:41.000 I don't want to hate on the guy.

02:39:43.000 Then don't.

02:39:43.000 Yeah, I'm not going to.

02:39:44.000 It's hard not to, right?

02:39:46.000 God.

02:39:46.000 Get a couple beers in ya?

02:39:49.000 Hater 8 came out!

02:39:51.000 You start wanting to talk shit?

02:39:52.000 Damn, Jay Cutler's giant too.

02:39:54.000 Jay Cutler beat him when he's going for number 9, right?

02:39:57.000 And everyone thought Ronnie Coleman shouldn't have done 9. Should've stopped at 8. Fucking Phil Heath, my boy Phil Heath lost the last one.

02:40:05.000 Who won the last one?

02:40:06.000 Who's Mr. Olympian?

02:40:07.000 Never heard of him.

02:40:08.000 A guy who they compare to Flex Wheeler, right?

02:40:11.000 He's a smaller, thinner dude.

02:40:12.000 When I say thin...

02:40:14.000 I can't tell how many of these are photoshopped or not.

02:40:16.000 Oh my god.

02:40:17.000 Wait a minute, is that real?

02:40:19.000 Go back to that last picture you just picked up.

02:40:22.000 Jesus Christ, make that bigger.

02:40:24.000 What the fuck, dude?

02:40:27.000 There are a couple that are definitely photoshopped, but that one doesn't look like that.

02:40:30.000 That one looks real.

02:40:31.000 Dude, that guy looks like a video game character.

02:40:33.000 This one looks photoshopped.

02:40:34.000 Yeah, that looks photoshopped.

02:40:35.000 Green Zombie's kind of piecing up Yair while we're talking about asses.

02:40:38.000 Oh man, so Yair was teeing off on him just a moment ago.

02:40:41.000 Was he?

02:40:41.000 Yeah.

02:40:42.000 Dude, who won 2018 Olympia?

02:40:44.000 This guy.

02:40:45.000 Oh, wow.

02:40:45.000 I'm pretty sure it was.

02:40:46.000 He's not Flex Wheeler at all.

02:40:48.000 It's giant-ass thighs, but he looks normal-sized there.

02:40:52.000 Dude, his abs are black.

02:40:55.000 Isn't that weird?

02:40:56.000 Yeah, they look like insects.

02:40:57.000 How come that's okay, but Blackface isn't?

02:41:00.000 Well, I think that guy's black, Joe.

02:41:02.000 What?

02:41:03.000 Yeah, he's black.

02:41:04.000 But everybody does that.

02:41:05.000 White guys do that, too.

02:41:06.000 I know.

02:41:07.000 They all do that.

02:41:08.000 Oh, my God.

02:41:09.000 Wait a minute.

02:41:10.000 Is he black?

02:41:11.000 Well, if he's black, why did he look so whiter in that photo when he was doing most muscular?

02:41:15.000 I don't know.

02:41:17.000 Okay, close in on that gentleman.

02:41:19.000 The upper left-hand corner.

02:41:20.000 Upper left-hand corner, like you had before.

02:41:23.000 The image in the upper left-hand corner.

02:41:24.000 Keep scrolling up.

02:41:26.000 All the way up?

02:41:27.000 That one.

02:41:28.000 Yeah.

02:41:30.000 He might be African-American, but we should probably pay attention.

02:41:34.000 What do you think he is, Jamie?

02:41:36.000 What's his nationality?

02:41:36.000 That guy?

02:41:37.000 I'm not talking about that guy.

02:41:38.000 That's the same guy.

02:41:38.000 That's the guy with the black abs.

02:41:40.000 No, that's not him, is it?

02:41:41.000 Yes.

02:41:42.000 Oh, that's what I'm saying.

02:41:43.000 He's not black.

02:41:44.000 Right.

02:41:44.000 Or if he is, he's very light.

02:41:46.000 But what I'm saying is, they are allowed to wear that stuff that makes your skin look dark.

02:41:50.000 So you can see the muscles better.

02:41:52.000 Right, but they get to a point where it's literally...

02:41:54.000 It's blackface.

02:41:55.000 It's black body.

02:41:57.000 Also face though.

02:41:58.000 He's from Egypt.

02:41:59.000 Okay, so he's from Northern Africa.

02:42:01.000 But he's much lighter in those images.

02:42:04.000 Mohab.

02:42:05.000 Mohab.

02:42:06.000 Mohab.

02:42:07.000 It doesn't make sense if that one of them has an accurate, the one that most muscular that you just put up, if that's an accurate skin tone color.

02:42:14.000 Jesus Christ.

02:42:15.000 Jesus fucking Christ.

02:42:17.000 Oh my God, he's huge.

02:42:18.000 God, dog.

02:42:19.000 What?

02:42:20.000 That one picture where you see his whole body?

02:42:21.000 That doesn't even look like a real person.

02:42:23.000 He has an ass on him, too.

02:42:25.000 That Egyptian ass, bro.

02:42:26.000 Oh, dude.

02:42:27.000 That dude.

02:42:27.000 How mad are people that we're talking about asses and not fights?

02:42:31.000 That dude looks like science.

02:42:31.000 Oh, Korean Zombie with a straight left.

02:42:33.000 So he won the thing?

02:42:34.000 This dude from Egypt?

02:42:35.000 I believe so, yeah.

02:42:36.000 Damn, he beat Phil Heath.

02:42:37.000 That's a bummer.

02:42:38.000 Wow.

02:42:39.000 He's a beast, man.

02:42:40.000 And you know fucking...

02:42:41.000 Look at this.

02:42:41.000 Look at this beautiful scramble here.

02:42:43.000 Great transition.

02:42:44.000 Oh, look at a double tap on the face by a Korean Zombie.

02:42:46.000 I think Ty Green just stopped doing the Olympia because he thought it was rigged, so he's like, fuck this, dude.

02:42:52.000 Yeah.

02:42:53.000 He'd be a good guy to get on the podcast.

02:42:54.000 Interesting dude.

02:42:55.000 Why do they think it's rigged?

02:42:57.000 Kai Greene, he had some- Jesus Christ!

02:43:00.000 Goddamn!

02:43:01.000 Big Ramy?

02:43:02.000 Did you say his name Ramy?

02:43:04.000 I think so, yeah.

02:43:04.000 What is his full name?

02:43:06.000 I tried pronouncing it.

02:43:07.000 It's impossible.

02:43:09.000 Let me go back to it.

02:43:09.000 Let me try to pronounce it.

02:43:10.000 You're much better at names than me.

02:43:13.000 Mamadou?

02:43:13.000 I don't want to fuck this up.

02:43:15.000 Mamadou Elsbae?

02:43:17.000 No Mamadou.

02:43:18.000 Let's listen to someone say it.

02:43:21.000 Mamadou Elsbae?

02:43:23.000 I don't want to fuck it up, man.

02:43:24.000 God, I sound so authentic, though, I feel like.

02:43:26.000 5'10", 310 pounds, contest weight.

02:43:29.000 5'10"?

02:43:31.000 Yeah.

02:43:32.000 He's thick.

02:43:33.000 Come on, son.

02:43:34.000 That's a thick dude.

02:43:36.000 Special type of girl into that.

02:43:38.000 But white guys.

02:43:39.000 Like, regular white guys.

02:43:41.000 Like, who's the famous white guy?

02:43:42.000 The big guy.

02:43:43.000 Gunther?

02:43:44.000 Remember him?

02:43:45.000 He would compete with Ronnie Coleman, those guys?

02:43:47.000 No.

02:43:48.000 His name was Gunther.

02:43:49.000 He was a giant Swede.

02:43:50.000 He looked like fucking Colossal from X-Men.

02:43:53.000 But you'd go chocolate face.

02:43:55.000 Dude, they get chocolate.

02:43:56.000 But you can't.

02:43:56.000 Jay Cutler went chocolate.

02:43:58.000 Jay Cutler's so tan.

02:43:59.000 Girls do it, too.

02:44:00.000 And we just accept it.

02:44:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:44:01.000 It's full chocolate body, though.

02:44:03.000 It's full chocolate body and chocolate face.

02:44:05.000 Yeah!

02:44:05.000 It's like, as long as you go full chocolate, you can go chocolate feet.

02:44:07.000 As long as you're flexing, they don't give a fuck.

02:44:09.000 But you have to go everywhere.

02:44:09.000 You can't have, like, one side chocolate and one side not.

02:44:12.000 Like, half face.

02:44:13.000 No, dude.

02:44:13.000 Trying to win or not?

02:44:14.000 Well, not only that, like, it's not legal.

02:44:16.000 You have to pretend you're one color.

02:44:17.000 Yeah, you do.

02:44:17.000 Either I accept the fact that you're in chocolate body and chocolate face.

02:44:20.000 What is that?

02:44:21.000 That's not real.

02:44:22.000 Is that real?

02:44:22.000 It's just his bodybuild horrible fake tan mistakes.

02:44:26.000 I think that might be real.

02:44:27.000 He went leave my face, bro.

02:44:29.000 Yeah.

02:44:29.000 Dude, he just decided.

02:44:30.000 He went chocolate body.

02:44:31.000 How's that not racist?

02:44:32.000 He was a really progressive bodybuilder and he couldn't go blackface.

02:44:35.000 It's the intent though, isn't it?

02:44:36.000 Go back to that picture.

02:44:37.000 He went chocolate body, but his face didn't touch it.

02:44:42.000 You can't give him a medal.

02:44:43.000 It looks like he smudged it a little.

02:44:44.000 You can't give him a medal.

02:44:44.000 Like he pretended he rolled around in the dirt.

02:44:48.000 You can't give him a medal, bro.

02:44:50.000 Yeah, man, he's going to win because he went only chocolate body, which is totally socially acceptable.

02:44:54.000 He totally didn't go chocolate face.

02:44:56.000 Dude, chocolate body?

02:44:58.000 Look at this!

02:44:59.000 They're literally spray tanning these people.

02:45:01.000 That's exactly what they're doing.

02:45:02.000 They are turning that guy black.

02:45:04.000 Go back there.

02:45:05.000 Oh my god.

02:45:06.000 But he keeps the face?

02:45:08.000 Is this real?

02:45:09.000 This can't be real.

02:45:10.000 That's before he went out.

02:45:11.000 This cannot be real.

02:45:11.000 That's before he went out.

02:45:12.000 He's like, you motherfuckers are not taking a picture of me with blackface on.

02:45:17.000 Let's just show how ridiculous this is.

02:45:18.000 Let's just call it chocolate face.

02:45:20.000 What's going on there?

02:45:21.000 The guy's getting chocolate on his face.

02:45:25.000 Pure chocolate.

02:45:26.000 I mean, I know he doesn't want to be racist, and I'm not saying they are racist.

02:45:29.000 There's no intent there to be racist.

02:45:30.000 Imagine.

02:45:31.000 Imagine.

02:45:32.000 Imagine.

02:45:32.000 If from this conversation, what the fuck is that guy doing?

02:45:35.000 That's bronze.

02:45:36.000 He gets his body bronze up to the neck, and then he leaves it alone.

02:45:41.000 What is happening there?

02:45:42.000 That's right before I went out on...

02:45:43.000 Wow.

02:45:44.000 Okay.

02:45:45.000 Imagine.

02:45:45.000 Just imagine.

02:45:46.000 If because of this conversation, we bring a rareness to chocolate face, which is essentially a socially acceptable version of blackface.

02:45:56.000 We're basically...

02:45:58.000 Look at this guy!

02:45:59.000 You need to go to jail, sir!

02:46:05.000 It's like the biggest tool in the world.

02:46:08.000 You don't look like that, sir.

02:46:10.000 Look at the gyno.

02:46:12.000 Listen, forget all that.

02:46:14.000 You don't look better when you do that.

02:46:17.000 You just look insane.

02:46:18.000 You have a black man's skin color and you have blonde, spiky hair.

02:46:23.000 This is insanity.

02:46:25.000 What am I looking at?

02:46:26.000 How hard he worked to look this way?

02:46:28.000 Dude, I'm looking at a puzzle.

02:46:30.000 I'm like, what is that?

02:46:31.000 He's looking at a hot mess.

02:46:31.000 I'm like, what is that puzzle?

02:46:33.000 Oh, fuck, man.

02:46:34.000 Ooh, Yair with a nice head kick.

02:46:36.000 Maybe we should pay attention to this awesome fight.

02:46:37.000 Dude, that white guy looks good on the left.

02:46:39.000 There's no reason to go chocolate-bodied.

02:46:41.000 Same guy?

02:46:42.000 No, no, no, but that's...

02:46:43.000 That's one guy dolled up and the other just natural.

02:46:45.000 Listen, man, I get it.

02:46:47.000 Black eyes look better.

02:46:48.000 You're just going to have to deal with that.

02:46:50.000 You're going to see the muscle fiber.

02:46:51.000 I agree.

02:46:51.000 Just be white, dude.

02:46:52.000 Chocolate-bodied.

02:46:57.000 Why is it okay?

02:46:59.000 Why is Chocolate Body accepted?

02:47:02.000 Are we the first ones to ever say this?

02:47:06.000 No, I'm sure.

02:47:07.000 Chocolate Body?

02:47:08.000 I think we might be the first to call it Chocolate Body, and I think that shit's going to stick.

02:47:12.000 Oh!

02:47:13.000 Powerful spinning elbow by Yair.

02:47:16.000 Yair looking for the sweep.

02:47:18.000 But think about fighters tan, too.

02:47:20.000 They try to get real tan.

02:47:22.000 Yair keeps looking for that hip toss.

02:47:25.000 Yeah, they do.

02:47:26.000 Fighters get tanned, but George St. Pierre did.

02:47:29.000 But you know, there's actually...

02:47:30.000 George got yellow.

02:47:31.000 It was actually, there's an actual benefit, like in terms of your performance, the increased vitamin D from getting tanned.

02:47:39.000 Like, I think Steve Maxwell told me about this, that they did some studies.

02:47:43.000 Look at this.

02:47:44.000 Lost position.

02:47:44.000 These boys are scrapping.

02:47:45.000 Yeah.

02:47:46.000 I believe Steve Maxwell told me that there's physical benefits to getting tanned.

02:47:53.000 Being out in the sun.

02:47:54.000 Yeah, well, not just that.

02:47:56.000 While you're tan and your body's jacked up on vitamin D from the exposure to the sun, even, I think, probably not as good, but better than nothing, exposure to a tanning bed.

02:48:07.000 That makes sense.

02:48:08.000 That actually can benefit you.

02:48:10.000 It's really crazy that your body makes a vitamin.

02:48:13.000 I know.

02:48:14.000 Based off getting sun rays?

02:48:16.000 Well, there's other ways to get it dietarily, but most of the way you get it, staring at the sun.

02:48:22.000 Or being in the sun.

02:48:23.000 It is crazy.

02:48:24.000 Crazy.

02:48:25.000 How bizarre is that?

02:48:27.000 God, I wish one of these two went chocolate body.

02:48:30.000 Yeah.

02:48:31.000 Imagine if a guy fought in the UFC chocolate body and he's like, bro, I gotta get contracts.

02:48:34.000 I wanna look ripped.

02:48:36.000 You know?

02:48:36.000 You couldn't say anything.

02:48:38.000 I see how guys who are fortunate enough to have more melanin in their skin, they look better, they get more contracts.

02:48:43.000 It's true.

02:48:45.000 You can't hold that shit back for me.

02:48:46.000 Like, you remember when Chuck Liddell used to paint his toenails and then everybody wanted to paint their toenails?

02:48:50.000 Yeah, everyone went black toes.

02:48:51.000 Yeah.

02:48:52.000 Talking about black toes?

02:48:53.000 Yep.

02:48:53.000 All we need is one dude to go chocolate body and everybody goes nuts and he gets a big endorsement contract.

02:49:00.000 Oh!

02:49:01.000 We need Sage Northcat to do it.

02:49:02.000 Damn, I hear Rodriguez with the fucking beautiful kicks.

02:49:05.000 But Green Zombie don't give a fuck about your kicks.

02:49:09.000 He's such a little monster.

02:49:13.000 Good defense there by Arya.

02:49:15.000 Oh, he tried again.

02:49:17.000 He tried again.

02:49:17.000 But at the very least, it's allowing him to escape.

02:49:19.000 Oh, step in elbow.

02:49:20.000 Look at that.

02:49:21.000 He's a creative dude.

02:49:22.000 Oh, he got clipped, though.

02:49:24.000 Temple, that right hand was to the temple.

02:49:26.000 That's the thing about the zombie, dude.

02:49:26.000 He'll eat your flashy shit and just come forward.

02:49:29.000 Well, in a lot of ways, this is a real good test for him after the Frankie fight, right?

02:49:33.000 It's a good test for both of them, right?

02:49:34.000 Yes.

02:49:35.000 What's the matter?

02:49:38.000 Logo?

02:49:38.000 Fighters definitely can't do that?

02:49:39.000 I typed in fake tan, UFC fighter.

02:49:41.000 Oh, Sam Alvey did that?

02:49:43.000 When did he do that?

02:49:44.000 2015. Wow.

02:49:47.000 You know, the UFC had to make in a policy about putting those fake tattoos on your back that said like, you know, casino something dot com.

02:49:57.000 Remember those?

02:49:58.000 Yeah.

02:49:59.000 I think Bernard Hopkins was the first guy to do that.

02:50:01.000 There's some guys who did that.

02:50:02.000 Yeah, UFC can't do that.

02:50:03.000 You can't get tattoos.

02:50:04.000 You know, it's in your contract.

02:50:05.000 No tattoos of logos.

02:50:07.000 Oh, interesting.

02:50:08.000 Because they wouldn't be able to air it on television.

02:50:10.000 No, basketball, too.

02:50:11.000 Like, J.R. Smith got, I think, a Supreme tattoo, and he had to cover it up.

02:50:15.000 It's a large one.

02:50:16.000 It's a big-ass Supreme tattoo.

02:50:18.000 Unless you have ownership in that business, don't do that.

02:50:21.000 Yeah, what is that about?

02:50:22.000 I don't know.

02:50:23.000 He has so many tattoos, he's probably like, fuck it.

02:50:25.000 He's like, come on!

02:50:27.000 Give me free shit.

02:50:28.000 That's what he's doing.

02:50:29.000 Is that what it is?

02:50:29.000 Wow, he's got it right off the back of his leg.

02:50:31.000 Looks pretty sick, though.

02:50:34.000 Oh, look at that Yair spitting elbow.

02:50:36.000 That shit was nasty.

02:50:37.000 Did you see that replay?

02:50:39.000 We should pay attention to this fight.

02:50:40.000 I know, we've been talking about chocolate bodies.

02:50:42.000 Yeah, I think we have a point though.

02:50:43.000 Dude, I feel like we're the first ones to really call it out.

02:50:46.000 Yeah, I don't think so.

02:50:47.000 I've never heard of it before.

02:50:49.000 Have you, Jamie?

02:50:52.000 There's probably a reason why there was a bunch of them tagged together on a website.

02:50:56.000 True.

02:50:57.000 I just think it's hilarious when you see the dudes who don't have chocolate face and they have chocolate body.

02:51:01.000 That's so weird looking.

02:51:03.000 Where your face is just a normal color.

02:51:06.000 But I get it.

02:51:07.000 I get it.

02:51:08.000 It does make you look more defined.

02:51:09.000 Yeah, it does.

02:51:10.000 When you're tan, you definitely look more shredded.

02:51:13.000 Right.

02:51:14.000 Oh, damn.

02:51:15.000 But the thing about it is, like, tanning...

02:51:18.000 It's not really good for you, right?

02:51:19.000 Get that dark?

02:51:20.000 Not all the time, right?

02:51:21.000 If you got that dark?

02:51:22.000 Fuck, now you can't do it.

02:51:23.000 That's why they have to spray paint.

02:51:25.000 And also I would think that...

02:51:27.000 I wouldn't be mad if Korean Zombie had somewhat of a tan, but whatever.

02:51:30.000 Oh, how dare you.

02:51:32.000 That's what it looks like, bro.

02:51:34.000 That's what Koreans look like.

02:51:35.000 Yair Rodriguez going for the sunshine.

02:51:36.000 Yeah, he mixes it up, dude.

02:51:37.000 He does.

02:51:38.000 It's good head movement, too.

02:51:39.000 He looks good standing up.

02:51:41.000 Dude, how fun of a fight would have been Zabit versus Yair?

02:51:44.000 That's a motherfucking fight.

02:51:45.000 Yeah, that would have been a really good fight.

02:51:47.000 I don't like that fight for Zabit or...

02:51:49.000 For Yair?

02:51:50.000 For Yair Shower.

02:51:50.000 Oh, man, nice right hand by the Korean Zombie.

02:51:53.000 Well, I like it to see.

02:51:55.000 Entertainment-wise?

02:51:56.000 I want to see what's up.

02:51:58.000 You know, it's like a lot of people thought that Mike Perry had it all day for Cowboy, and Cowboy just showed everybody what was up tonight.

02:52:05.000 That's what's interesting, right?

02:52:07.000 Cowboy's been doing it for a long time.

02:52:09.000 We know what Cowboy brings.

02:52:10.000 We don't know what Mike Perry brings.

02:52:12.000 We don't know what Yair or fucking Zabit bring.

02:52:15.000 We don't totally know what they bring, but we've seen Yair tested.

02:52:20.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:52:21.000 We've seen Yair tested against Frankie.

02:52:24.000 Frankie Edgar just destroyed him.

02:52:25.000 That wasn't even a test.

02:52:26.000 Well, it was a test.

02:52:28.000 Well, we were like, you're not...

02:52:29.000 Oh, my God.

02:52:30.000 What is this?

02:52:32.000 What's going on with the left picture?

02:52:33.000 Yeah, I can't put that on YouTube, but...

02:52:35.000 What is that left picture?

02:52:37.000 Is that a guy or a girl?

02:52:38.000 That's a woman.

02:52:39.000 How come she doesn't have a shirt on?

02:52:40.000 Is she allowed to...

02:52:41.000 This is an artist, photographer, or a photographer did like a series of photos on the subject.

02:52:49.000 Dude, that's a woman?

02:52:50.000 That's a transgender.

02:52:51.000 No, no, no, you son of a bitch.

02:52:53.000 How dare you?

02:52:53.000 Dude, that's a transgender woman on the left.

02:52:55.000 No, no, that's a woman who's...

02:52:57.000 How shall we put this?

02:53:00.000 Got a lot of muscle.

02:53:01.000 Dude, that is not a woman with the pecs and the titties like that.

02:53:06.000 Those are implants.

02:53:07.000 No, it's a woman that's hooked up.

02:53:09.000 The titties are implants.

02:53:10.000 Right.

02:53:11.000 But my point is, that looks like her body and her proportions look like a...

02:53:18.000 Dude, that's a man, baby.

02:53:20.000 Like a...

02:53:22.000 Like a different kind of thing.

02:53:24.000 Dude, if that came up to you as a ladyboy telling me, like, bro, get the fuck out of here.

02:53:28.000 Do better.

02:53:29.000 But this is what I'm thinking.

02:53:31.000 She looks like...

02:53:32.000 Green Zombie's piecing him up.

02:53:34.000 Is he?

02:53:34.000 Oh, damn.

02:53:35.000 He's going after him.

02:53:36.000 Yeah.

02:53:36.000 She looks like she could be, like, a type of human that evolved on a nearby star.

02:53:42.000 She looks like Steve Nash with tits.

02:53:44.000 Am I right?

02:53:45.000 Like a type of human that evolved in a nearby galaxy that's super similar to us.

02:53:49.000 I don't know, bro.

02:53:50.000 Hopefully not.

02:53:51.000 Well, the implant, if that wasn't an implant, if that's just what the breasts look like, just super muscular on top, just like a guy, super jacked, looks like a rugby player, and then you get to the titties in these weird sort of bulbous bags.

02:54:07.000 Maybe they're horns or something.

02:54:09.000 They're hard rocks that they use for chest-banging in battle.

02:54:14.000 God, that's a tough call.

02:54:16.000 Super jacked.

02:54:16.000 But that's not a classic female physique, that's for sure.

02:54:19.000 I like the nails though.

02:54:20.000 Long white nails are a strong touch.

02:54:22.000 Go back to that, Jamie.

02:54:23.000 If there was any doubt whatsoever about the femininity.

02:54:27.000 Really?

02:54:28.000 Yeah, look at them nails.

02:54:30.000 Powerful.

02:54:30.000 That's a man.

02:54:32.000 With demon hands.

02:54:34.000 Just full of veins and thick.

02:54:37.000 Look like they've been just lifting heavy shit for years.

02:54:40.000 Jerking off dudes.

02:54:42.000 Boom, boom.

02:54:44.000 Yeah.

02:54:45.000 But hey, man, if that's how she wants to look...

02:54:47.000 I don't give a shit.

02:54:48.000 Do your thing, girl.

02:54:49.000 There's people that love to get jacked.

02:54:51.000 They love to just be preposterously huge.

02:54:54.000 Look at that lady.

02:54:56.000 Total chocolate face.

02:54:57.000 How dare you, lady.

02:54:58.000 Dude, that is the most chocolate face.

02:55:01.000 She's dark chocolate face.

02:55:03.000 We need a new chocolate face.

02:55:04.000 She went full cocoa face.

02:55:06.000 Damn, dude.

02:55:08.000 If she was on the Megyn Kelly show, if she walked out in the background and started posing right when Megyn was talking about blackface...

02:55:16.000 The whole world!

02:55:17.000 The whole world would have pointed at her and going, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait!

02:55:20.000 That's okay?

02:55:22.000 Hold on, you're telling me this bitch is okay?

02:55:24.000 She's in a fitness competition?

02:55:27.000 Are you at your goddamn mind?

02:55:28.000 It's okay, bro.

02:55:29.000 It's a fitness competition.

02:55:30.000 It's alright, I'll do an Olympia next week.

02:55:32.000 I'm just showing you how ripped my face is.

02:55:38.000 It makes no sense!

02:55:39.000 My face is shredded as fuck, son.

02:55:43.000 Dude, I'm trying to show off my jaw.

02:55:45.000 Look at these muscles right here.

02:55:46.000 I chew gum all day, bro.

02:55:48.000 When I want to stop, I don't.

02:55:49.000 So my fucking cheeks right here is ripped.

02:55:52.000 It makes zero sense when my face is chuckling.

02:55:56.000 This fucking face is ripped, bro.

02:55:57.000 Oh, fuck, bro.

02:55:59.000 Getting that face ripped.

02:56:00.000 Oh, hey, fella.

02:56:02.000 You can't do that.

02:56:03.000 That guy's an aborigine in a movie.

02:56:06.000 You cannot do that.

02:56:07.000 They pull that guy out of the cave, and someone has to translate the white man's language to him.

02:56:11.000 Oh, fuck, dude.

02:56:11.000 That's what that is.

02:56:12.000 You got a guy who's like, they are looking for gold.

02:56:17.000 That's exactly what it looks like.

02:56:22.000 Oh, how dare you, sir?

02:56:24.000 How many people just want to wear blackface because they're super racist and they can't so they become bodybuilders?

02:56:30.000 Does that happen?

02:56:31.000 Dude.

02:56:31.000 I mean, I'm not saying it happens a lot, but it's happened.

02:56:34.000 There's a few.

02:56:35.000 Has it happened once?

02:56:36.000 For sure.

02:56:36.000 Has one guy said, I am just a fucking bodybuilder, bro.

02:56:40.000 Get over it, man.

02:56:41.000 Get over it, man.

02:56:42.000 Get over it, man.

02:56:43.000 Yeah, get over it.

02:56:44.000 And he starts, like, rapping and shit.

02:56:53.000 Oh my god!

02:56:54.000 Jesus Christ!

02:56:57.000 How is that acceptable?

02:57:00.000 How is that possible?

02:57:02.000 That guy looks like somebody sprayed ink on him.

02:57:07.000 Dude, you know how hard that shit is to get off after these bullshit competitions?

02:57:11.000 That guy looks like he fell in an oil well.

02:57:14.000 You know how unhealthy those people are?

02:57:17.000 The guy literally looks like he fell in oil.

02:57:19.000 He's like, they pulled him out of an oil well.

02:57:21.000 Like, oh, I was in there, I had to rescue the kid.

02:57:23.000 He went under.

02:57:25.000 He went under and saved somebody, and he's a goddamn hero.

02:57:29.000 You don't need your face to be black.

02:57:31.000 We'll say, okay, whoa.

02:57:33.000 That guy might be black.

02:57:34.000 I think so.

02:57:34.000 How do you know, Jamie?

02:57:35.000 Don't get racist on us, Jamie.

02:57:38.000 Jesus.

02:57:38.000 His hair is different.

02:57:39.000 Isn't that funny that you can get, that would make you racist?

02:57:42.000 Like, if you thought that one of these guys in chocolate face and chocolate skin and chocolate body, if you thought one of those guys wasn't doing it, you'd feel like you were racist.

02:57:51.000 Like, oh my god, that's his real color.

02:57:52.000 Shit!

02:57:53.000 It's more, the women do it too, though, right, Jamie?

02:57:56.000 It's more of a man thing.

02:57:57.000 Oh, no, the women do it for sure.

02:57:59.000 Oh, dude, their titties are disgusting.

02:58:02.000 Hey!

02:58:05.000 What are you showing me, man?

02:58:06.000 He keeps it up, too, to creep you out.

02:58:08.000 Yeah, he does.

02:58:09.000 Look.

02:58:10.000 Look.

02:58:10.000 Dude, that girl is...

02:58:11.000 I just can't, man.

02:58:13.000 Dude, this is round four.

02:58:14.000 We talked about this fight for a total of 20 seconds.

02:58:16.000 I know.

02:58:16.000 It looks like it's good, dude.

02:58:18.000 Fucking chocolate body's fucking whole vibe up.

02:58:20.000 Good front kick up the middle by Yair.

02:58:22.000 Once the Korean zombie's forced to fight on the outside like this, then Yair's kicks become more dangerous.

02:58:27.000 And that's shit like spinning back fists, because you don't know what's coming.

02:58:31.000 So he doesn't know where the distance is, where he's safe.

02:58:34.000 You're going to need to land a real clean one to stop the zombie because he does not fucking stop.

02:58:39.000 He's the zombie.

02:58:40.000 Yeah, two nice right hands.

02:58:42.000 Oh, he's hunted him down.

02:58:44.000 Oh, Yair.

02:58:45.000 Oh, shit.

02:58:46.000 Oh, shit.

02:58:47.000 I think he fell there, though.

02:58:49.000 Yeah, he definitely fell.

02:58:50.000 I think Yair did a good job chasing after him, but I think he fell.

02:58:54.000 Oh, nice jab.

02:58:57.000 Damn, yeah, they're just bloodied up.

02:58:59.000 Yeah, they're beating each other up.

02:59:00.000 Ooh, there's another nice left hand.

02:59:01.000 Korean zombie switching up from right hand to left hand.

02:59:04.000 They're both fucked up.

02:59:05.000 Both their noses look broke.

02:59:07.000 Yeah, they're beat up.

02:59:08.000 Korean Zombie's got some going on, not just with his nose, but I think with his lip, right?

02:59:12.000 His upper lip?

02:59:13.000 Yeah.

02:59:14.000 Oh, he just wiggled there.

02:59:15.000 He just threw that punch and wiggled.

02:59:16.000 Oh shit, he just landed.

02:59:18.000 Remember when Korean Zombie just dipped out for four years to serve in Korea?

02:59:22.000 Military?

02:59:23.000 You have to.

02:59:23.000 Yeah, it was a few years.

02:59:24.000 How many years was it?

02:59:25.000 Was it two or four?

02:59:27.000 I remember he was gone for four years and beat Dennis Bermudez, I think.

02:59:30.000 Dude, his lip is fucked up.

02:59:31.000 I think he KO'd Dennis Bermudez.

02:59:33.000 Oh, Yair popped him with the jab right on that mouth.

02:59:37.000 I think he's got some issues going on with that upper lip, man.

02:59:41.000 We've seen that before where lip splits.

02:59:44.000 You've seen Chuck Liddell's when he fought Rich Franklin.

02:59:47.000 That was the worst I've ever seen.

02:59:48.000 Robbie Lawler's probably the worst though, right?

02:59:49.000 Close to four years, Jamie?

02:59:51.000 He missed four years.

02:59:52.000 I think he served two.

02:59:54.000 But he missed four years in the UFC, then came back, beat Dennis Bermudez.

02:59:58.000 What happened?

02:59:59.000 Korean Zombie just hit him with a big right hand.

03:00:00.000 Fuck.

03:00:01.000 Big right hand.

03:00:02.000 He's yelling something.

03:00:04.000 He's saying he's doing something.

03:00:05.000 He's saying he's holding his glove?

03:00:06.000 He said something.

03:00:08.000 Dude, did it wobble, Yair?

03:00:10.000 Yeah, he cracked him.

03:00:11.000 He cracked him good.

03:00:12.000 It was a good shot.

03:00:13.000 The fucking zombie, man.

03:00:15.000 Remember his badass walkout shirt?

03:00:16.000 Oh, he's saying he hit him in the nuts.

03:00:17.000 Or is Yair looking for a break?

03:00:20.000 They're not stopping it for that.

03:00:22.000 Oh, come on!

03:00:23.000 Go, Korean!

03:00:24.000 Zombie!

03:00:25.000 Let's take no races.

03:00:26.000 I didn't see that.

03:00:28.000 Did you see what happened?

03:00:30.000 Zyre was complaining they got hit in the nuts and kept looking at the ref for it.

03:00:33.000 But do you see what happened that made him say he got hit in the nuts?

03:00:35.000 No.

03:00:37.000 Dude.

03:00:37.000 But if the ref doesn't stop, I mean, come on, dude.

03:00:40.000 They're probably both exhausted.

03:00:41.000 You can see, like, come on, give us a break.

03:00:45.000 Well, they're both, they've taken a lot of punishment.

03:00:47.000 Yeah, Korean Zombie looks like a different person.

03:00:51.000 And so does Yair.

03:00:52.000 He's covered in blood.

03:00:53.000 Oh!

03:00:54.000 Beautiful left hand behind him.

03:00:55.000 Yair looks like one of those hyenas when they're eating.

03:00:58.000 Right, and they're going right through a water hog's asshole.

03:01:00.000 Yes.

03:01:01.000 Like a fucking water buffalo's dick.

03:01:04.000 Yeah.

03:01:04.000 Yeah, his face is all red like that.

03:01:07.000 Like a water pig.

03:01:08.000 Yeah.

03:01:08.000 Some kind of wildebeest looking...

03:01:11.000 He looks like a fucking...

03:01:12.000 Butthole.

03:01:13.000 Hyena, man.

03:01:15.000 You ever see a warthog?

03:01:16.000 Yeah.

03:01:17.000 Yeah, I've seen a warthog get up close.

03:01:18.000 What a fucking weird looking animal that is.

03:01:20.000 Super weird.

03:01:20.000 You ever watch that?

03:01:21.000 I forget what the nature metal, whatever the fuck it is.

03:01:24.000 We both follow on Instagram.

03:01:25.000 Oh yeah, nature is metal.

03:01:26.000 But they'll post like a hyena ripping a fucking water buffalo's dick off.

03:01:29.000 And it'll say sensitive material.

03:01:31.000 I'm like, I'll watch it at 5 in the morning.

03:01:32.000 I'm like, god damn it.

03:01:34.000 It's like a zebra getting his fucking ear starched off by a fucking eagle or something.

03:01:39.000 James Vick posted something on Instagram.

03:01:42.000 Because, you know, James Vick has been pig hunting lately.

03:01:45.000 Yeah.

03:01:46.000 And he posted this video of a pig eating a deer.

03:01:49.000 And you watch it.

03:01:50.000 Like a boar?

03:01:51.000 Whoa!

03:01:52.000 It's a wild pig.

03:01:53.000 It doesn't necessarily have to be a boar to eat a deer.

03:01:55.000 It could be a wild female.

03:01:56.000 So when you think of wild boar, people think of like a different thing.

03:01:59.000 They think of tusks, yeah.

03:02:00.000 That's just a male.

03:02:02.000 Oh yeah?

03:02:02.000 Yeah.

03:02:03.000 But a boar isn't the same as the pig that we eat, the pink piggies.

03:02:08.000 That's where it gets strange.

03:02:09.000 Because they're actually all the same species.

03:02:12.000 Oh damn, I did not know that.

03:02:13.000 They look different though.

03:02:14.000 Boar looks different.

03:02:15.000 They have like hair, their noses, they're gnarly.

03:02:17.000 Yep.

03:02:18.000 They're different in where they come from too.

03:02:19.000 Bebop and rock studies.

03:02:20.000 If they're in like Russia, like Russian boars.

03:02:23.000 And they're bigger too, right?

03:02:24.000 They're all considered among the same genus, I think they call it.

03:02:28.000 They say genus.

03:02:29.000 Is that what you say?

03:02:29.000 Janus or genus?

03:02:30.000 How do you say that?

03:02:31.000 It depends what country you're in.

03:02:32.000 Steve Rinella told me all this.

03:02:33.000 It's a species called sous scroffa, and that's what pigs are.

03:02:38.000 Is that like saying birds are all the same, Joe?

03:02:41.000 No, no, no.

03:02:42.000 It's very different.

03:02:44.000 Because when you leave pigs out in the wild...

03:02:46.000 See, there it is right there.

03:02:48.000 What a difference between a boar and a wildebeest.

03:02:49.000 No, wilder pigs call the boar underrated male.

03:02:52.000 That's just...

03:02:52.000 It just says it right here.

03:02:54.000 It doesn't talk about wildebeest and that thing.

03:02:57.000 Okay.

03:02:58.000 What does it say?

03:02:59.000 A wild pig can be called a boar, but that's just the name of it.

03:03:02.000 Pig, European wild boar.

03:03:04.000 Yeah.

03:03:05.000 But this is what the question is, right?

03:03:09.000 What's the difference between wild pigs and domesticated pigs?

03:03:13.000 Yeah, like the pink pig and the warthog.

03:03:15.000 I think a pig is the same family.

03:03:17.000 It's the same thing.

03:03:18.000 Oh, there it is.

03:03:20.000 Yeah, uncastrated male domestic pig.

03:03:23.000 That's just the term wild boar.

03:03:26.000 What I'm asking is, is a pig and a wild pig, a domesticated pig and a wild pig, what's the difference between them?

03:03:34.000 I don't think there really is.

03:03:35.000 I think they're the same thing.

03:03:37.000 It's just they bred one and turned it into this real soft sort of thing.

03:03:41.000 But when they get wild...

03:03:43.000 Their body actually morphs.

03:03:45.000 Yeah, they're not pink in the wild.

03:03:46.000 They get fucked up, right?

03:03:48.000 No, they literally have changes to their anatomy.

03:03:51.000 Their nose grows.

03:03:52.000 Their mouth lengthens.

03:03:54.000 Their teeth grow out.

03:03:55.000 Their hair gets thicker.

03:03:57.000 And it happens just after a few months.

03:04:02.000 Yeah, I know what the girls...

03:04:04.000 It says a wild pig is just both once it's wild.

03:04:08.000 And then a razorback is a...

03:04:10.000 That's not the answer to my question, though.

03:04:12.000 The question is, what is the difference between a wild pig and a domesticated pig?

03:04:18.000 Do they have that on there?

03:04:20.000 Okay, just Google what's the difference between a wild pig versus a domesticated pig.

03:04:27.000 Yeah, let's see what it tells us.

03:04:29.000 There we go.

03:04:29.000 Look at that big piggy.

03:04:30.000 There we go.

03:04:32.000 Pig, hog, and boar essentially describe the same animal.

03:04:34.000 But there are some distinctions.

03:04:36.000 A boar is an uncastrated male domestic pig, but it also means a wild pig of any gender.

03:04:41.000 A hog often means...

03:04:42.000 Okay.

03:04:43.000 If we go deeper into it, I'm pretty sure that it says they're a part of something called sous-scraffa.

03:04:48.000 And sous-scraffa is the group that includes wild pigs, domesticated pigs, all those different animals.

03:04:58.000 But when you let them go wild...

03:05:00.000 They literally change who they are.

03:05:02.000 Yeah, Sue Scruffa.

03:05:04.000 That's it.

03:05:04.000 So it is kind of the same thing.

03:05:06.000 It's just they look different in different places, but they're the same thing.

03:05:10.000 Dude, my son was playing with two baby pigs.

03:05:12.000 They were eight weeks old.

03:05:13.000 Goddamn, they were cute.

03:05:14.000 Oh, they're adorable.

03:05:15.000 God, they're cute.

03:05:16.000 When you see them in the wild, they're so different.

03:05:18.000 It's such a ruthlessly aggressive little thing.

03:05:20.000 Really?

03:05:21.000 So you want to kill them.

03:05:22.000 Well, they're creepy.

03:05:23.000 I remember the first time I ever hunted them.

03:05:26.000 I was with Ronella, and we were walking past this field, and the grass was, the brush, everything was very thick, and it was really high.

03:05:33.000 It was like much taller than their backs.

03:05:37.000 So if a pig is, you know, only a couple feet tall, the grass was probably like five, six feet tall, because you couldn't see where they were.

03:05:42.000 But you hear them in there.

03:05:46.000 Jesus Christ.

03:05:46.000 They were going at it with each other.

03:05:48.000 Dude, it sounded like there was little demons in there trying to kill each other.

03:05:51.000 Would you guys just go in there and mark them up?

03:05:53.000 Look at this.

03:05:53.000 They're about to throw down.

03:05:55.000 Look at this.

03:05:56.000 Look at this.

03:05:56.000 They put their hands up.

03:05:57.000 What is going on right now?

03:06:00.000 Korean zombie just looked up at the screen.

03:06:01.000 Yair said, let's meet right in the center and throw down.

03:06:03.000 I think that's what he's saying.

03:06:04.000 Well, you know the zombie's down.

03:06:06.000 I don't know what happened there.

03:06:07.000 The zombie looked around like...

03:06:09.000 We're talking about wild pigs.

03:06:10.000 People are like, this fucking fight is amazing!

03:06:12.000 And these two assholes!

03:06:13.000 I see a bunch of people clapping and shit.

03:06:15.000 Talking about wild pigs!

03:06:16.000 And chocolate bodies.

03:06:17.000 Chocolate face.

03:06:18.000 Chocolate body, bro.

03:06:20.000 Chocolate body's totally okay.

03:06:21.000 It's when you go upstairs with the face.

03:06:23.000 You're better off going full white face, chocolate body, and say, hey man, I would never do black face.

03:06:28.000 It's disrespectful.

03:06:29.000 But your chocolate feet, chocolate hands?

03:06:31.000 Oh, look at that straight left hand by the zombie.

03:06:33.000 That was nice.

03:06:34.000 The zombie's trying to get in the fucking...

03:06:36.000 Shootout.

03:06:37.000 That was a serious straight left.

03:06:39.000 He's been switching stances, and as he switches stances, he pops that left hand in there.

03:06:43.000 If someone said, hey, Sean, I'll give you $100,000.

03:06:47.000 Tell me who's winning this fight.

03:06:48.000 I couldn't do it.

03:06:49.000 I'm not sure.

03:06:50.000 I'll tell you a couple things about chocolate bodies and war dogs.

03:06:54.000 I know quite a bit about that.

03:06:56.000 Me too.

03:06:57.000 And wild pigs.

03:06:58.000 I know it's been an entertaining fight.

03:07:02.000 Yeah.

03:07:02.000 Oh!

03:07:03.000 Beautiful spinning back fist.

03:07:05.000 Yair still.

03:07:06.000 Look at that.

03:07:07.000 Tries a hammer fist.

03:07:08.000 He's still super creative.

03:07:10.000 Oh.

03:07:10.000 Yeah, he's a fun guy to watch, man.

03:07:13.000 He really is.

03:07:14.000 Oh, nice right.

03:07:16.000 Short little check hook.

03:07:20.000 That sidekick to the knee, man.

03:07:21.000 That's such a nasty move.

03:07:23.000 Yair was at Jackson's for a little bit, remember?

03:07:25.000 Yep.

03:07:25.000 That sidekick is their thing.

03:07:27.000 Well...

03:07:29.000 It's a legit move.

03:07:30.000 Fuck yeah.

03:07:32.000 Whitaker, Yo Romero.

03:07:34.000 Yeah.

03:07:35.000 Dude, how about fucking Weidman getting starched?

03:07:38.000 Crazy.

03:07:39.000 He's going to get the next title shot, too.

03:07:40.000 Crazy.

03:07:41.000 Well, I guess Jacare gets it now.

03:07:43.000 I think you do a stylebender of Jacare.

03:07:47.000 Because Jacare already lost to Whitaker?

03:07:49.000 Yeah.

03:07:50.000 No one wants to see that.

03:07:51.000 Yeah, but, man, I mean, how many more years do you think Jacare's going to fight?

03:07:54.000 He's 38. Yeah, not many.

03:07:56.000 He beat the guy who was going to get the title shot, right?

03:07:59.000 True.

03:08:00.000 Don't you think?

03:08:01.000 Oh no, Weidman was for sure they were going to fly him to the fight to be an alternate.

03:08:06.000 But here's the thing.

03:08:07.000 Dude, they keep putting their hands up.

03:08:08.000 There's fucking ten minutes left.

03:08:10.000 I don't understand.

03:08:10.000 Tell you what, what are they doing?

03:08:12.000 I don't understand.

03:08:13.000 If you don't want to get the bonus, do that.

03:08:15.000 Nice kick to the body there.

03:08:16.000 Oh!

03:08:17.000 Oh, shit!

03:08:18.000 Oh, he flatlined him.

03:08:19.000 Holy shit!

03:08:20.000 Oh my god!

03:08:21.000 Holy fuck!

03:08:22.000 There was five seconds left, and he threw a fucking elbow and knocked a Korean zombie out.

03:08:28.000 Oh my god, that was insane.

03:08:30.000 Look at him kick all the coaches out.

03:08:31.000 It's so stupid they do this.

03:08:33.000 Just let him celebrate.

03:08:35.000 Get the fuck out of here.

03:08:35.000 That was insane.

03:08:37.000 Flatlined him.

03:08:38.000 Oh my god.

03:08:39.000 He zombied him.

03:08:40.000 He's fucked too.

03:08:41.000 He's still out.

03:08:42.000 Look at him.

03:08:43.000 The doctor over.

03:08:46.000 Zaire calling the doctor over?

03:08:48.000 Yeah.

03:08:48.000 He probably knows.

03:08:49.000 Dude, that fucking elbow flopped.

03:08:52.000 Can we get a replay?

03:08:54.000 Jesus.

03:08:55.000 Oh, he's hurt, man.

03:08:57.000 Zaire's hurt.

03:08:59.000 See how he got up and he just winced in pain?

03:09:02.000 Shit.

03:09:03.000 What did he hurt?

03:09:05.000 I don't know.

03:09:05.000 Did his coach tackle him?

03:09:07.000 Wow.

03:09:07.000 Here we go.

03:09:08.000 Dude, this is one of the best knockouts of the year.

03:09:11.000 Was that on the buzzer?

03:09:11.000 Yes.

03:09:12.000 Look at this.

03:09:13.000 Whoop!

03:09:14.000 Look!

03:09:14.000 Boom!

03:09:15.000 Bang!

03:09:15.000 Upward elbow!

03:09:17.000 Insane!

03:09:18.000 Holy fuck!

03:09:19.000 I've never seen that!

03:09:19.000 That's sweet!

03:09:20.000 I've never ever seen that!

03:09:21.000 Bang!

03:09:22.000 Oh my goodness!

03:09:24.000 Oh my goodness!

03:09:25.000 What a fucking KO! What a beautiful elbow!

03:09:29.000 Whoop!

03:09:29.000 Creative!

03:09:30.000 Oh my god!

03:09:31.000 Oh my god!

03:09:33.000 Dude, that was...

03:09:34.000 Can we get the clock at the bottom?

03:09:36.000 Crack!

03:09:37.000 Oh my god!

03:09:38.000 I think there's two seconds maybe.

03:09:39.000 Two seconds!

03:09:42.000 And I wonder what the scorecard we're going into that.

03:09:44.000 That's a good question.

03:09:45.000 I wish we were paying attention.

03:09:47.000 Yeah, me too.

03:09:47.000 Unless we watch the KO. That's phenomenal, man.

03:09:52.000 That is phenomenal.

03:09:53.000 Look at Izzy.

03:09:54.000 My man, Victor Ortiz too.

03:09:56.000 Holy shit, what a big win for Yair.

03:10:01.000 Victor Davila, the guy who just jumped in, he's a UFC commentator for the...

03:10:05.000 Deportes.

03:10:06.000 Yeah.

03:10:07.000 Super good dude.

03:10:08.000 He's one of his black belts, too.

03:10:09.000 Yeah, he's a great guy.

03:10:11.000 Him and Verdum are the Deportes guys.

03:10:13.000 Dude, that right elbow was so nasty.

03:10:15.000 I've never seen that.

03:10:16.000 I've never seen that.

03:10:17.000 Look at Jimmy Smith!

03:10:19.000 Look at Rashad.

03:10:20.000 Look at Rashad's face.

03:10:21.000 Everybody's like, wow, that is crazy.

03:10:25.000 That was one of the craziest elbows you're ever going to see, man.

03:10:28.000 The best knockout of the year?

03:10:29.000 Oh yeah, especially considering that he's got this nickname, the Korean Zombie.

03:10:33.000 And we've never seen that.

03:10:34.000 Wait a minute, was Alistair and Francis, was that this year?

03:10:40.000 Was that this year?

03:10:41.000 You gotta give that it.

03:10:43.000 I think this is better.

03:10:44.000 I've seen how many right hands connect.

03:10:47.000 That was a left hook.

03:10:48.000 Left hook, by the way.

03:10:50.000 Left, right hook, uppercut.

03:10:52.000 No, that was an uppercut he hit.

03:10:54.000 It was last year.

03:10:56.000 It's out.

03:10:57.000 It's out of the running.

03:10:59.000 That's number one of the year.

03:11:00.000 Okay, but that's only UFC. Yeah, other ones don't really count, do they?

03:11:10.000 They should.

03:11:12.000 Well, hey.

03:11:13.000 Bellator?

03:11:15.000 For sure, Bellator has some good ones.

03:11:17.000 Okay.

03:11:17.000 What's the best KO? Can you name one?

03:11:19.000 Yes.

03:11:20.000 Pico's had some great KOs.

03:11:21.000 Pico's uppercut that we talked about earlier.

03:11:23.000 That uppercut's insane.

03:11:25.000 This is the best KOs of the year?

03:11:28.000 Yeah.

03:11:28.000 Cater?

03:11:29.000 Yeah.

03:11:30.000 Cater had a good one.

03:11:31.000 I was at that fight.

03:11:33.000 Jacare Brunson.

03:11:36.000 Jacare's head kicked him.

03:11:37.000 That's what's so crazy.

03:11:38.000 Dude, Jacare's just fucking dudes up.

03:11:40.000 Boom!

03:11:41.000 No, that's not even the same fucking...

03:11:42.000 No, no, no.

03:11:43.000 It's a different thing.

03:11:44.000 Oh, fucking Smith.

03:11:47.000 This is Tiago.

03:11:49.000 Santos?

03:11:50.000 Santos KO'd him, though.

03:11:51.000 Body shot?

03:11:52.000 Yeah, he body shot at him and then beat him down.

03:11:54.000 Again, I've never seen a no-look elbow.

03:11:57.000 That was beautiful.

03:11:59.000 If you've ever seen...

03:12:01.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

03:12:02.000 Romero Rockhold was good.

03:12:04.000 Romero Rockhold was fantastic.

03:12:05.000 Damn, Yair's fucked up.

03:12:06.000 You ain't getting that Zabit Yair fight for quite some time.

03:12:09.000 No, no, no.

03:12:10.000 He got fucked up.

03:12:11.000 Dude, he is really fucked up.

03:12:12.000 Looks like he can't stand on his leg.

03:12:14.000 Dude, when Yoel punches you, it just seems like a different thing.

03:12:18.000 The way he punched Rockhold and then punched him again, it's like a different thing.

03:12:22.000 Dude, at 85, there's some great fucking fighters still.

03:12:25.000 It might be the best division right now.

03:12:28.000 55 stack.

03:12:29.000 It is.

03:12:30.000 70s fucking filthy.

03:12:31.000 They're both stacked.

03:12:33.000 But you know what?

03:12:34.000 Between Stylebender, Boracina, you know, you got Yoel Romero who's still in the mix.

03:12:41.000 Robert Whitaker.

03:12:42.000 Rockhold.

03:12:43.000 Weidman was in that fight.

03:12:45.000 I know, it was a good fight.

03:12:46.000 Up until the last punch that Jacare landed that KO'd him.

03:12:50.000 Kelvin Gaslam.

03:12:52.000 They're stacked.

03:12:52.000 Rockhold's a beast, man.

03:12:55.000 Who else?

03:12:56.000 85 is up there.

03:12:58.000 How about Cannoneer, who just fought at 85?

03:13:01.000 He just had his first big win.

03:13:03.000 Dude, he looks terrifying.

03:13:05.000 Here it is again.

03:13:06.000 Oh my goodness.

03:13:07.000 That is ridiculous.

03:13:08.000 Look at this.

03:13:09.000 Slide, slide, slide.

03:13:11.000 Bank!

03:13:12.000 Boom!

03:13:13.000 Dude, that is ridiculous.

03:13:16.000 Placement is so perfect.

03:13:18.000 What's he saying about his leg?

03:13:20.000 ...

03:13:25.000 Yeah, he did his camp with Cowboy.

03:13:27.000 Oh, he's thanking Cowboy Cerrone.

03:13:28.000 Because they did their camp together.

03:13:29.000 Yeah.

03:13:30.000 That was beautiful.

03:13:33.000 They just, uh...

03:13:35.000 I wonder what happened to him when he's limping.

03:13:40.000 Oh, he's bringing it up now.

03:13:43.000 Did he break his feet?

03:13:47.000 First round, he fucked his foot up, he said.

03:13:49.000 Yeah.

03:13:54.000 So he kicked his knee accidentally, and he thinks he broke his foot in the first round, or at least fucked his foot up in the first round.

03:14:04.000 Wow.

03:14:05.000 You think he called it the beat now?

03:14:10.000 Whoever Sean Shelby and Dana White want me to fight, always the standard thing to say.

03:14:15.000 You never get big fights when you do that, but yeah.

03:14:18.000 Yeah.

03:14:18.000 You always gotta just go for someone, even if it's not in your nature.

03:14:22.000 Yeah.

03:14:23.000 Yeah.

03:14:25.000 Yeah, if you really want that fight, you gotta ask for it.

03:14:28.000 Gotta.

03:14:28.000 And they put it in their brain, otherwise they can give you what they think's best.

03:14:33.000 Very interesting fight, though, for what we did get to see of it.

03:14:36.000 And that elbow was fucking fantastic.

03:14:38.000 Best knock out of the year.

03:14:39.000 That's such a really good, important point about the difference between recklessly charging in and, you know, with the Korean zombies doing that, turning into a zombie war, like he does every fight.

03:14:51.000 It was working.

03:14:51.000 I feel like he'd probably be up on the scorecards.

03:14:54.000 It looked like it was working.

03:14:55.000 I'd like to know.

03:14:56.000 We'll find out later what the people that were watching think.

03:15:00.000 Even at the scorecards.

03:15:02.000 One person I read said he was down 3-1 going into that round.

03:15:05.000 For the zombie?

03:15:05.000 Damn.

03:15:06.000 Three rounds to one, the zombie was up.

03:15:08.000 Yeah, from what I saw, the zombie and the exchanges.

03:15:10.000 Looked like it.

03:15:11.000 He was definitely coming after him, moving forward, but it looked like Yair was getting some shots in.

03:15:15.000 Good for him, man.

03:15:17.000 All the drama, too.

03:15:18.000 There's his family.

03:15:19.000 Got blood on your mom.

03:15:21.000 Dude, look at this again.

03:15:23.000 This is so sick, dude.

03:15:24.000 Whoop!

03:15:25.000 Bam!

03:15:26.000 That's some N1 shit.

03:15:28.000 He just delivered that.

03:15:30.000 Look at this.

03:15:32.000 Bam!

03:15:33.000 That's ridiculous.

03:15:34.000 Oh my god.

03:15:35.000 One of the best elbow chaos of all time.

03:15:38.000 Ever.

03:15:38.000 Of all time.

03:15:39.000 Of all time.

03:15:41.000 And perfect time to use that technique.

03:15:42.000 And that's the number 10 guy in the world.

03:15:45.000 Name the Korean zombie.

03:15:46.000 You know, it's a fight where, according to at least one judge, he was losing.

03:15:51.000 That's insane.

03:15:52.000 And he lands that.

03:15:53.000 I love how the coach is flying in.

03:15:55.000 And it uses the momentum of his attacker.

03:15:59.000 It's a beautiful lesson in martial arts for people to watch.

03:16:03.000 When a strike like that lands, and it lands so perfectly, that opens up that strike for a lot of people.

03:16:09.000 100%.

03:16:10.000 Remember when John Jones started, the one where he touched the inside leg and then everyone started to do it.

03:16:16.000 One guy does it, and then...

03:16:18.000 Yeah.

03:16:19.000 Did you ever see Gaston Bellano spinning elbow in Bellator?

03:16:23.000 No.

03:16:24.000 Son.

03:16:25.000 Dope.

03:16:26.000 Son.

03:16:26.000 Really?

03:16:27.000 You want to see someone look like they got shot with a laser beam from the moon?

03:16:31.000 Really?

03:16:31.000 He just hits him in the head.

03:16:32.000 Bring that shit out, Jamie.

03:16:34.000 This dude got hit so hard.

03:16:37.000 Gaston is a real world-class Muay Thai fighter.

03:16:40.000 Look, left.

03:16:40.000 Bang!

03:16:41.000 Oh!

03:16:42.000 Fuck!

03:16:43.000 Dude.

03:16:45.000 Watch this one more time.

03:16:47.000 Watch this.

03:16:47.000 Oh my god.

03:16:49.000 I mean, come on, son.

03:16:51.000 Folded him.

03:16:51.000 But it's the way it lands, too.

03:16:53.000 It's just so perfect.

03:16:55.000 Boom!

03:16:56.000 Now, was this against the No.

03:16:58.000 10 fight in the world?

03:16:59.000 No.

03:17:00.000 So, yeah, yours is more impressive.

03:17:02.000 But, boom.

03:17:04.000 But again, I've seen spinning elbows land and knock dudes out.

03:17:06.000 Like that?

03:17:07.000 That one's pretty cold-hearted.

03:17:09.000 Let's watch it one more time in real time.

03:17:10.000 Dude, I've never seen a guy no-look KO someone with an elbow.

03:17:13.000 I don't think I have either.

03:17:14.000 Watch this, though.

03:17:16.000 That's real time.

03:17:17.000 One more time, real time.

03:17:18.000 One more time, real time.

03:17:19.000 Give it to me in real time.

03:17:22.000 Look at this.

03:17:23.000 Swat!

03:17:24.000 That's filthy.

03:17:25.000 That is insane.

03:17:26.000 That's like...

03:17:27.000 That's the restart.

03:17:29.000 That's Control-Alt-Delete.

03:17:31.000 Right?

03:17:31.000 The whole thing goes dark and comes back up.

03:17:34.000 Yeah, but Korean Zombie is a guy who, first of all, was deep in that fight, maybe even winning that fight, at least according to one judge, known for being a zombie, known for being able to take a tremendous shot.

03:17:47.000 Flatlined.

03:17:47.000 Tough as shit.

03:17:49.000 Flatlined.

03:17:50.000 Flatlined in a fight he might have been winning.

03:17:52.000 Yeah.

03:17:52.000 Powerful Rashad haircut.

03:17:54.000 Rashad, looking suave.

03:17:56.000 I like his shaved head better, but whatever.

03:17:58.000 I like what he's doing with his hair.

03:17:59.000 I like this purple psychedelic paisley tie.

03:18:02.000 Not mad at the beard.

03:18:03.000 I like the whole look.

03:18:06.000 Jimmy Smith.

03:18:08.000 What's that pin?

03:18:09.000 What do you think that pin is?

03:18:10.000 Is that a Porsche pin?

03:18:11.000 Imagine what a dick you'd be if you had a Ferrari pin.

03:18:13.000 That's some shit I would do.

03:18:17.000 What do you think that pin is?

03:18:18.000 I don't know.

03:18:19.000 It looks like a Porsche pin.

03:18:19.000 What is that pin, Jimmy?

03:18:21.000 What do you think?

03:18:22.000 It's probably for veterans today.

03:18:24.000 Oh.

03:18:25.000 Good call, dude.

03:18:27.000 Yeah.

03:18:28.000 Probably.

03:18:29.000 Something along those lines.

03:18:32.000 Well, dude.

03:18:33.000 Well, we covered it all, bro.

03:18:35.000 We covered it all, butt fighting.

03:18:39.000 For all you bodybuilders out there, we don't really care.

03:18:41.000 No, keep doing your chocolate bodies.

03:18:43.000 Yeah, we really don't care.

03:18:44.000 I actually encourage it because it's hilarious.

03:18:45.000 And it makes you look better.

03:18:46.000 You're right.

03:18:47.000 Dude, it's an advantage.

03:18:48.000 Chocolate it up, bro.

03:18:49.000 Yeah, you're right.

03:18:50.000 I get it.

03:18:51.000 I get it.

03:18:51.000 I don't think that you shouldn't be able to do it, but I do think all of it's crazy.

03:18:55.000 Yeah, I do think it's racist now that I look at it more.

03:18:58.000 I don't even think it's racist.

03:19:00.000 I don't even think it's racist.

03:19:02.000 I think they're just trying to look like they're shredded.

03:19:05.000 Like a black guy.

03:19:06.000 Like a black guy.

03:19:07.000 How dare you?

03:19:08.000 That's exactly what they're doing.

03:19:10.000 And listen, it's working for them and chocolate body is the new thing.

03:19:13.000 Highlights are incredible.

03:19:15.000 Well, it definitely has an impact, man.

03:19:16.000 I mean, if you're white like paper and you're trying to look jacked on TV and you're standing next to a dude who went chocolate face and chocolate body, that guy's going to look way darker.

03:19:25.000 Who wants to be more chocolatey?

03:19:26.000 And the only reason why you should go chocolate face is because otherwise it's super distracting.

03:19:30.000 Correct.

03:19:31.000 You gotta go all.

03:19:33.000 Now I don't think you're tan.

03:19:34.000 I think you're crazy.

03:19:35.000 Yeah, you're crazy.

03:19:36.000 What's going on?

03:19:36.000 You're like, what the fuck?

03:19:37.000 Do you have like a suit on?

03:19:38.000 You gotta match it.

03:19:41.000 There's some girls who are particularly sexually adventurous and they will, even for Halloween parties, will just paint their tits.

03:19:48.000 Yes.

03:19:48.000 That was a thing that was going on for a while.

03:19:50.000 It was crazy.

03:19:51.000 It was like a loophole.

03:19:52.000 Crazy hot, Joe.

03:19:53.000 Crazy hot.

03:19:54.000 But it was like a loophole where girls could basically be topless at parties with paint on their tits.

03:19:59.000 And you could see their face.

03:20:00.000 Full nipple.

03:20:00.000 But it was all good.

03:20:01.000 You can see they had stars over their areolas.

03:20:04.000 Are you watching Twitch these days?

03:20:06.000 What, still going on?

03:20:07.000 Yeah!

03:20:08.000 What's Twitch doing?

03:20:09.000 What's going on on Twitch?

03:20:10.000 I don't know what day they changed the rules, but the rules got changed sometime.

03:20:13.000 Oh, why'd they change the rules?

03:20:14.000 No, no.

03:20:15.000 Oh, the other way.

03:20:15.000 Good, good.

03:20:16.000 They let them paint their tits.

03:20:17.000 Why not?

03:20:18.000 Listen, if you can wear some sheer, skin-tight shirt that shows your nipples, and I'm all for that, why can't a girl paint her tits and make some money?

03:20:27.000 What, do you want to work at Denny's, motherfucker?

03:20:29.000 Can a guy paint his dick and make some money?

03:20:31.000 Yes.

03:20:32.000 Okay, that's what I'm talking about.

03:20:33.000 Oh, wow.

03:20:33.000 Perfect.

03:20:34.000 Dude, she is hot.

03:20:36.000 This girl just has her titties all done up.

03:20:38.000 It's spray paint.

03:20:38.000 Look at this one.

03:20:39.000 This is Twitch world?

03:20:41.000 Yeah.

03:20:41.000 So they have fake bikinis on.

03:20:42.000 Dude, I need to get on Twitch.

03:20:43.000 But it's just titties.

03:20:45.000 She has some tiny titties.

03:20:46.000 But this is naked.

03:20:47.000 Well, that's going down now.

03:20:48.000 No, stop it, you asshole.

03:20:50.000 The girl's crying.

03:20:50.000 Leave these girls.

03:20:51.000 Separate them.

03:20:52.000 This girl's got elf ears.

03:20:53.000 This is the dark web now.

03:20:54.000 No, no, no.

03:20:54.000 We're good.

03:20:55.000 Leave it alone.

03:20:56.000 The point is they're allowed to do it.

03:20:59.000 She's got barbs through those nipples.

03:21:00.000 What's happening down there?

03:21:02.000 Is there something happening onto those nipples?

03:21:03.000 Am I just looking at it wrong?

03:21:05.000 Dude, this is twitch.

03:21:06.000 What the fuck do they do it for?

03:21:07.000 Yeah, what are those things on her nipples?

03:21:08.000 Is that some sort of an object?

03:21:11.000 Is that a little line?

03:21:12.000 Yeah, what is that?

03:21:13.000 Is that like a nail through it?

03:21:15.000 Oh, is that paint?

03:21:16.000 Yeah, it's all paint.

03:21:17.000 I thought maybe she had some sort of...

03:21:19.000 Ring going on.

03:21:20.000 When I talk about Twitch, it's like my dad asked me about CBD oil.

03:21:23.000 I have no clue.

03:21:25.000 I couldn't tell you what...

03:21:26.000 People do a lot of shows on Twitch now.

03:21:28.000 I know.

03:21:29.000 Like a lot of...

03:21:30.000 You know who contacted me the other day?

03:21:32.000 Bubba the Love Sponge.

03:21:33.000 Oh, really?

03:21:34.000 Yeah, he's doing a show on Twitch.

03:21:35.000 He does a show on Twitch.

03:21:37.000 Like a straight...

03:21:37.000 What do you mean show?

03:21:38.000 He was a famous radio guy.

03:21:39.000 Yeah, I know.

03:21:40.000 He still is.

03:21:40.000 I know.

03:21:41.000 He used to be on Sirius in the early days when Howard first got on.

03:21:45.000 Bubba the Love Sponge was on after him.

03:21:46.000 He does a show like this on Twitch?

03:21:48.000 Yeah.

03:21:48.000 Yeah, apparently.

03:21:49.000 I need to get on Twitch.

03:21:51.000 Yeah, I think Jeans and Segura are doing it.

03:21:55.000 Yeah, they're on there.

03:21:56.000 Yeah, your mom's house, Tom and Christina.

03:21:59.000 They're hip, they're cool.

03:22:00.000 Yeah, they're doing Twitch as well.

03:22:03.000 Have you looked into it, Jamie, much?

03:22:05.000 Yeah, I'm on there myself.

03:22:06.000 But I play video games, but it's expanded over the last, I don't know, year to more than video games.

03:22:11.000 There's podcast sections, there's music sections.

03:22:14.000 They try to do like a comedy section even.

03:22:16.000 They're trying to entice people to do stand-up comedy on there.

03:22:18.000 It's a terrible idea.

03:22:18.000 Yeah, it's a terrible idea.

03:22:20.000 Yeah, that doesn't work.

03:22:22.000 But there's tons more than just video games on there now.

03:22:25.000 When people first started doing podcasts, one guy asked me to do his podcast and then asked me to do stand-up.

03:22:30.000 They do the live podcast.

03:22:32.000 He wanted me to do stand-up on the podcast.

03:22:34.000 I go, what are you talking about?

03:22:36.000 I go, you want me to do my act on your show?

03:22:38.000 And then it just gets released on the internet?

03:22:40.000 I just do it that way?

03:22:42.000 Instead of just getting paid for a Comedy Central special or a Netflix special?

03:22:45.000 Like, what are you talking about?

03:22:46.000 Get the fuck out of here.

03:22:46.000 Why would I do that?

03:22:48.000 And you're just going to sell it?

03:22:50.000 They said no idea.

03:22:50.000 You're just going to sell this podcast to put it on?

03:22:52.000 And how much do I get out of this?

03:22:53.000 Zero?

03:22:54.000 Okay, that sounds like a good deal.

03:22:55.000 And my material's out there in a stupid-ass show.

03:22:57.000 That's so crazy.

03:22:58.000 But that was the early days of podcasting.

03:23:00.000 People were trying to figure out what the hell it was.

03:23:02.000 Like, what is this thing?

03:23:03.000 It's hilarious.

03:23:04.000 Is this just a joke?

03:23:05.000 Is anybody paying attention?

03:23:06.000 Who's watching?

03:23:07.000 Little did they know.

03:23:08.000 Yeah, it's just...

03:23:08.000 I remember Kevin Smith was one of the first guys to take it seriously because he rented a theater.

03:23:13.000 He had a theater on Melrose.

03:23:15.000 It was like the Smodcast Theater.

03:23:19.000 And we used it once.

03:23:20.000 I used it once to interview...

03:23:23.000 Was it Tom Green and Jim Norton?

03:23:26.000 Maybe.

03:23:27.000 I think I did two podcasts there.

03:23:30.000 I did one with Tom Green and one with Jim Norton.

03:23:32.000 Yeah, it was interesting.

03:23:33.000 It was cool.

03:23:33.000 It's different.

03:23:34.000 It's interesting, but it's different.

03:23:36.000 Yeah, doing it live in front of an audience is different.

03:23:38.000 Yeah, it's not like...

03:23:40.000 Do you guys still do live Fighter and the Kid shows?

03:23:42.000 We don't.

03:23:42.000 You don't?

03:23:43.000 No.

03:23:43.000 Too busy with both of your stand-up careers?

03:23:45.000 Too busy, yeah.

03:23:46.000 Yeah.

03:23:46.000 It's rare Brian and I get together as far as live shows.

03:23:49.000 Well, I guess that's good because it means you're both busy because that's exactly the same thing that happened like me and Joey and even me and Ari and me and Duncan.

03:23:58.000 It's like everybody else just got too big.

03:24:00.000 You know, Ari's just headlining these giant-ass places now and Joey's headlining giant-ass places and Segura is selling out everything all across the country.

03:24:12.000 It's just how it goes.

03:24:13.000 If you're doing stuff with people, eventually they wind up doing something else.

03:24:20.000 I know you're doing really well with your stand-up comedy.

03:24:23.000 It's probably hard to do those shows because those shows are a different thing, right?

03:24:27.000 It takes away from what I'm doing.

03:24:29.000 You know, like the original goal.

03:24:30.000 If I'm going to dedicate time and stage, it's going to be to my...

03:24:34.000 Right.

03:24:35.000 Especially because you kind of have to if you want to headline places.

03:24:38.000 You want to keep pumping out new shit and you want to do a special.

03:24:42.000 As much as fun as I'd have with the life I had and the kids, it was the exact opposite.

03:24:46.000 That was just improv and me and Brian dicking around most of the time.

03:24:50.000 You're not getting better at anything.

03:24:52.000 You're having a good time with your buddy.

03:24:53.000 Right, you're not making your act stronger, like piecing up your materials.

03:24:56.000 No, I remember last time I told Brian this, me and him did one at the Comedy Store, I don't know, like a year at least ago, a year and a half maybe.

03:25:02.000 When we got done, I was like, I'm done with these, dude.

03:25:05.000 Wow.

03:25:06.000 Oh, you had a weird one, right?

03:25:07.000 There was one of them that came out weird at the Comedy Store?

03:25:09.000 It wasn't weird, but it was clunky, yeah, because we haven't been together in a while and we did that.

03:25:14.000 I'm like, dude...

03:25:15.000 This isn't the best product for you or me.

03:25:17.000 This makes us look bad, I feel like.

03:25:19.000 Yeah, it can, right?

03:25:20.000 I think you've got to respect what that is.

03:25:22.000 If you're going to do a two-man show, you've got to coordinate the shit out of that.

03:25:26.000 It requires a lot of work.

03:25:27.000 You can't wing it, especially from people going from pain to see you do stand-up.

03:25:31.000 They see your stand-up act, which is you know what it is.

03:25:34.000 They go from seeing that to that.

03:25:36.000 I felt like it was hurting the brand more than anything.

03:25:39.000 That makes sense.

03:25:40.000 Yeah.

03:25:41.000 I think Brian agreed, too.

03:25:42.000 But we did a show together with Ari and Big J, and that was fun.

03:25:46.000 That was fun.

03:25:48.000 That was All Things Comedy.

03:25:50.000 They're doing a festival down there.

03:25:51.000 Yeah, they did a festival.

03:25:52.000 Brought us all in.

03:25:53.000 All Things Comedy is doing a lot of shit, man.

03:25:55.000 They're killing it.

03:25:56.000 They're kicking ass.

03:25:56.000 Bill Burr.

03:25:57.000 They're doing specials.

03:25:58.000 They're doing an Ian Edwards special.

03:26:00.000 Are they really?

03:26:01.000 Oh, yeah.

03:26:02.000 That's dope.

03:26:02.000 Oh, yeah.

03:26:03.000 Comedy Central game is special.

03:26:05.000 But there's something with that.

03:26:06.000 Ari, Theo, Brian, Big Jay and I were all talking about we could do the same way they did the White Comedy Tour.

03:26:15.000 Was it Blue Comedy Tour?

03:26:16.000 White Comedy Tour?

03:26:17.000 Where the fuck it was?

03:26:18.000 We could do that once a month.

03:26:20.000 Just pick one city, do two big ass shows and get out.

03:26:23.000 But announce a tour with it?

03:26:25.000 Yeah.

03:26:27.000 Yeah, definitely.

03:26:28.000 That'd be fun.

03:26:28.000 You know, and also, like, you're doing comedy clubs, too, which is so important at this stage of, like, when you're trying to ramp up to a special in January.

03:26:37.000 Yeah.

03:26:37.000 You gotta do a lot of comedy clubs, because you get those two-show-a-nights in.

03:26:41.000 Two-show-Friday, two-show-Saturday.

03:26:44.000 Everything gets juicy.

03:26:45.000 Usually, one Thursday, two Friday, two Saturday.

03:26:48.000 That's good.

03:26:48.000 Thursday's a warm-up set.

03:26:50.000 Yes.

03:26:50.000 Working the kinks out.

03:26:52.000 Thursday, you get things popping.

03:26:52.000 Get that bitch hot.

03:26:54.000 Yeah.

03:26:54.000 Woo!

03:26:55.000 They come in guns blazing on Friday.

03:26:57.000 I'll tell you what's weird to relate to fighting is I was like, oh fuck, I'm about nine weeks out from the special.

03:27:03.000 It almost feels like, damn, you gotta, I don't know.

03:27:06.000 You know who used to say that?

03:27:07.000 Louis C.K. He used to treat it like it was a fight.

03:27:09.000 He would go running and get in shape, run like five miles a day.

03:27:13.000 He would ramp up actual physical training to prepare for a comedy special.

03:27:17.000 That's how I am.

03:27:18.000 My diet's on point now, my diet, my workouts.

03:27:21.000 Well, what I learned from this Sober October workout challenge, this fitness challenge that Ari and Tom and Bert and I did, was that when you work out a lot like that, you do a shit ton of cardio, you don't give a fuck.

03:27:34.000 Your anxiety is severely, severely diminished.

03:27:37.000 You feel so good.

03:27:39.000 It's crazy.

03:27:40.000 When you do a lot of cardio, like I was doing...

03:27:43.000 On a normal day, any average day I might be working out three and a half hours.

03:27:48.000 Too much.

03:27:48.000 It's crazy.

03:27:49.000 Way too much.

03:27:49.000 Too much.

03:27:50.000 But it was just for a month.

03:27:51.000 Yeah.

03:27:52.000 But the point was that, and I don't think you need to do three and a half hours, but you might need to do an hour.

03:27:56.000 If you can do an hour of hard cardio, you don't give a fuck.

03:28:01.000 That's what I try to do every day.

03:28:02.000 You chill.

03:28:02.000 Yeah, 60 minutes of hard where I'm burning 800,000 calories.

03:28:06.000 That's all you have to do.

03:28:07.000 That's it.

03:28:07.000 Yeah.

03:28:08.000 Done.

03:28:08.000 Dude, I feel really good when I work out like that.

03:28:11.000 If I don't, I feel like my demeanor, I'm not as fun, I'm not as outgoing, I'm not as creative.

03:28:17.000 I don't feel great.

03:28:18.000 Dude, I was saying that if it was a pill, if you give someone a pill and that pill could make me feel like I feel after I work out for three and a half hours.

03:28:25.000 Oh, I'd be addicted to it.

03:28:26.000 I'd take that pill every day.

03:28:27.000 100%.

03:28:27.000 That's some I don't give a fuck juice.

03:28:29.000 It's called Oxycontin Joe, but whatever.

03:28:30.000 No.

03:28:31.000 No, I hear you.

03:28:31.000 Because it doesn't change who you are.

03:28:33.000 True.

03:28:33.000 Like, if you gave me a spelling bee, I'd fuck up the same words.

03:28:37.000 Count the same and that was the thing was interesting like I was worried that it was gonna negatively affect my podcast because I was worried that I'd be too tired I come in here.

03:28:45.000 I just be ragdolled and beaten down, but I wasn't.

03:28:48.000 You had more energy, right?

03:28:49.000 I had a lot of energy like Jamie I didn't seem like any slower or anything did I? You know what fucks me up?

03:28:55.000 And we've talked about this before.

03:28:56.000 What's that?

03:28:57.000 Fucking yoga classes.

03:28:58.000 Dude, when I do a 90-minute yoga class and I come in here, I am way more fucked up.

03:29:03.000 Fuck yeah.

03:29:03.000 Mental energy with that.

03:29:05.000 It's not just that.

03:29:06.000 It's like what you're doing to elevate your heart rate is so much more exhausting to your muscles than, say, running.

03:29:15.000 For sure.

03:29:16.000 Because you can't hold a yoga pose for as long as you can run.

03:29:21.000 You can run for hours.

03:29:23.000 And you've been doing it.

03:29:25.000 It's a movement you're doing.

03:29:26.000 And you're going left, right, left, right.

03:29:28.000 It's just like this steady push, relax, push, relax.

03:29:32.000 And your legs have like a half a second to recover with each step.

03:29:36.000 That's what's going on.

03:29:37.000 But it's different.

03:29:38.000 Because yoga, you can never do that.

03:29:40.000 When you're in a yoga pose, like you're in a triangle pose or something like that, how long can you hold that?

03:29:46.000 Can you hold it a minute?

03:29:47.000 Can you hold it five minutes?

03:29:49.000 Maybe you're in fucking tremendous shape.

03:29:50.000 And you could do the bow pose where you hold your foot and you put it over behind you.

03:29:56.000 Maybe you could do that for five minutes if you were in fucking tremendous, tremendous shape.

03:30:02.000 But damn, that is hard to do.

03:30:04.000 What is that, Jamie?

03:30:05.000 Scorecard.

03:30:06.000 Everyone had green zombie up.

03:30:08.000 Yeah.

03:30:09.000 Except for one judge.

03:30:11.000 Or one judge had it even going in.

03:30:14.000 Other judges had green on every card.

03:30:18.000 So someone had 2-2, others had 3-1.

03:30:21.000 3-1, 3-1, 2-2.

03:30:22.000 Fuck, man.

03:30:23.000 Interesting.

03:30:24.000 What a KO. What an amazing KO. Alright, let's wrap this bitch up.

03:30:28.000 Everybody out there being affected by the fires, we genuinely and sincerely hope you and your family are safe.

03:30:33.000 It sucks if you lose your place, but it's way worse if you're dead.

03:30:39.000 What's positive is your friends and your family and your loved ones, and that means a lot to me right now as I'm thinking about it, even though I'm evacuated.

03:30:47.000 I already know people that for sure have lost their houses.

03:30:50.000 But we'd feel a whole lot worse if we lost them.

03:30:54.000 It's hard to deal with.

03:30:55.000 It's rough.

03:30:56.000 It's not a good thing.

03:30:57.000 But it's also a humbling reminder of where we are and that nature is a thing to be respected and feared.

03:31:03.000 And when fire gets out of hand, there's some serious fucking consequences.

03:31:07.000 And I don't know what solutions there are.

03:31:09.000 To fixing something like this.

03:31:10.000 But I think if there was an invading army that came here and did the kind of damage and devastation that these forest fires have done, there would be some serious steps to protect us against that army.

03:31:22.000 If there's a profit to be made in figuring out how to protect people from this kind of fucking horrendous fire...

03:31:29.000 I don't know what it would be.

03:31:31.000 I don't know what it would be hiring way more firefighters or putting way more precautions in place or hiring people and Donald Trump creating new jobs to clear all this dead wood in the forests and to figure out some way to get to the scene quicker and have flights that are ready on standby filled with water at all times.

03:31:52.000 I don't know what the fuck it would be, but it seems to me that these things When they get out of hand like this, leave people unusually helpless.

03:32:03.000 Like, we're oftentimes helpless to nature.

03:32:06.000 But this is one of those unusually helpless moments where it makes you really understand how dangerous fire is.

03:32:13.000 And nothing but love and respect out there for all the firefighters and first responders and all these people that are taking care of people.

03:32:20.000 And shout out to Whitney Cummings, saving animals.

03:32:22.000 Our girls out there in Malibu, saving animals, bringing them to shelters.

03:32:26.000 She saved horses and chickens and shit.

03:32:28.000 She loves animals.

03:32:29.000 Animals better than people, yeah.

03:32:30.000 She's always been an animal person.

03:32:32.000 Powerful Whitney Cummings.

03:32:33.000 All right, thank you to you all.

03:32:35.000 Much love.

03:32:35.000 Bye.

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