Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - November 28, 2015
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2 hours and 53 minutes
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Summary
AJ, Eddie, and Ben discuss what it's like to be awake at 5:00 am watching UFC Fight Night Live from North Korea. Also, we talk about Ambien and how it can affect your memory. Fight Companion is a group of friends that get together to watch UFC fights and talk shit. We're not experts, we're just dudes who like to talk shit and watch the fights and have a good time doing it. We hope you enjoy this episode and stay up to date on what's going on in the world of Fight Night in general! We'll see you in the next episode where we'll talk about the UFC fight night in North Korea and what it was like to watch it live from the North Korean capital, Seoul, South Korea. Fight Night Korea is a live martial arts event that takes place in the middle of the night in front of thousands of people in the streets of Seoul. Fight Night is a must-listen for all things UFC. If you're looking for a good night's rest, this is the place for you. We're here to help you get some rest and recover from the day you've been working hard to get through the past 24 hours. Thank you so much for all the support, we appreciate all the love and support you've shown us throughout the past week. We can't wait to do more of these next few weeks. - Fight Night! - The Fight Companion Podcast. Check us out! and we'll be back next week. Thank you for supporting Fight Night. xoxo. Cheers. CHEER! XOXO. (MMA, Cheers, Che, Chey, Chee, Cheeeeee, CHEEY, CheEYE, CHEE, CHOEEHEE, and CheeeeHEEEHEEEEEEEEEEEEHEEEEEEEEEEEEEHEEEEEEEEEeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeEEEEHAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEEEEEWEEeeeAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEEWEEEEeeeeeewEEEEeeEEEeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWEEEeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEewEEEEEeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEeewEEEeeeeeeeeeewEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewEEEEEEe
Transcript
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What that means is, if you've tuned in, hoping to hear enlightening conversation, or facts about the universe, or ancient civilizations...
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This is a bunch of people that shouldn't be awake, but are awake.
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And then, of course, Brendan motherfucking Sharp.
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And we're here watching the UFC live from North Korea.
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And the first fight's about to happen, Sam Cecilia versus Do-Ho Choi.
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But, uh, so if you've never heard these podcasts before, what we do is we get together and we just watch the fights and we talk shit.
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And we do a lot of the MMA world's journalism for them.
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Because a lot of them, they rely on us for stories.
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One day when I'm tired of traveling, this is what we're gonna do.
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I gotta go to San Diego and teach a seminar, and then after that seminar, I got a friend of mine asked me to be in a music video, so I'm doing that too.
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So last night I decided, you know, the only way I'm gonna be able to pull this off is if I go to sleep like at 8. And I go, how the fuck am I gonna go to sleep at 8?
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I had a couple Ambien's, so I took one Ambien, and I took it like around 6.30, and I'm like feeling kind of loopy, and then he calls me and goes, hey dude, do you have another Ambien?
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I'm like, fuck, you're gonna have to drive over to my house.
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But from that point on, I couldn't go back to sleep.
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I'm just sitting there, and then I got really, really medicated.
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And then that was weird, being all loopy on Ambien and then stoned at the same time.
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Dude, I was breaking down some shit from when I was 15. I was bringing back memories that I never thought.
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I think the official use for it is for people that have narcolepsy, but it's like a pill that helps you stay awake when you're really tired, but it's not like speed.
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These caveman coffees, one of these little fuckers, has 240 milligrams of caffeine.
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It's like a double espresso or a triple espresso with some fucking nitrogen.
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I love these nitros, but they're fucking super strong, like they're rocket fuel.
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240 is like a venti Starbucks, and it's all in this one little can.
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How much is in a Rockstar, like one of those regular-sized cans?
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That's a good question, because they break those bitches up in servings.
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It says, do not consume all in one day and shit.
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Dude, I drank one of those red lines, I swear I was gonna have a heart attack.
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Four minutes and 28 seconds right now of the first round.
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I think, like I said, it's spelled Choi, but I think it's Chick.
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I told him, the pity that you know is not the pity of today.
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We haven't talked publicly since the Ronda fight.
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It's okay to be racist like at sporting events, right?
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No, it's not okay to be racist, but you can be proud to be from a country.
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You can hate the other guy since he's not from your country.
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And he says they're basically chanting the Brazilian version of You're a Faggot.
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When I fought Nogueira, the whole crowd was chanting one thing.
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I was like, damn, I'm gonna fucking hit out here, man.
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I turned around to my coach, who speaks Portuguese.
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Imagine if the American crowds were chanting that.
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He looks like a dude who would, you know, beat your ass at some new video game.
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He doesn't look like a guy who would fuck Sam Cecilia by knockout.
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He looks like he's just a beast with the Rubik's Cube or some shit.
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Yeah, I like when dudes are unassuming like that, but are murderers.
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Kenny's the type of dude you would fuck with in a bar, right?
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I know, he's like the most unassuming ass kicker.
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He looks like an accountant, but he will jack your world up, man.
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You would just realize, like, really early on what a mistake it was.
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I had a buddy of mine who worked, he was a bouncer at a strip club, and he was a purple belt under hoist.
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And he would go out and start fights, and he would go out with knee pads on, and ties, and he would work with ties that were Velcro.
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You could just pull them off, and he's ready to go.
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He's a psycho, and he fucked people up really easy.
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I've seen him fuck people up at the strip club like, just like in Gracie in action, take the dude down, pass his guard easily, mount him, he gives his back, chokes him out, and he walked up, he did that to some guy right in front of me and said, that's all you got?
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And then he stands up and goes, nice fight, asshole.
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But he had some road rage and he flipped some dude off and dude flipped him off and he pulled over and he fought some guy and he said it went on for like 20 minutes.
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He finally got the guy who did a little jiu-jitsu and lost.
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A 20-minute street fight on the side of the road.
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Never just all clenched up, probably, you know, on the ground, in the dirt, just clenched up.
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He's calling out to all his friends in the Starcraft clan.
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Oh, you mean that thing with your eyes that some Asians do?
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That's like the best video game play in the world or some shit?
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The Korean zombie puts Ben Henderson in a twister, but he escapes.
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And then Ben Henderson comes back and meat hooks the shit and rubber guards the shit out of him.
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Do Korean zombies walk out when he comes out to Cranberry?
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Look at their videotaping this role like it's some serious shit.
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No, they kind of did because he kind of like gave them a triangle.
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So they're just sort of slapping at each other.
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Just a nice sweat for Ben before fight week, huh?
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Oh, if you were Ronda's head coach, how would you have her train for the rematch?
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I thought we were talking about Asian people get their eyes white.
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This bitch out of nowhere comes with the interview question.
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The biggest superstar athlete, whatever, whatever.
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I'll tell you what's interesting is people think it's that easy.
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We can just go find another striking coach and everything is great.
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What would the strategy be and what would the training be like?
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Well, listen, man, six months, you need to cut out all the drama in your life, probably find a new coach, and just focus on what you do.
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You don't need to reinvent the wheel, but your best chance of winning is by grappling.
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So you're not going to invest your whole time trying to compete with a world-class striker.
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You'd hook her up with the wrestling coach, right?
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All the commercials, you see a Ronda, no more Focus Mint commercials with all that shit.
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It should just be wrestling and double-A commercials, right?
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She had that Mike Tyson aura because she kept beating girls.
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But everyone was so sold on a strike, including me.
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I thought she looked real good against Betch Coheia, but Betch Coheia is more of a brawler style.
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And when Ronda comes super aggressive like that, that'll work on a lot of girls.
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She's the only one who's had real, legit footwork.
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And the way the fight started, when Ron is there, they're looking at each other, and Holly just kept skipping to the left, skipping to the right, skipping to the left, skipping to the right.
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She did that from the moment she entered the octagon.
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If you watch Holly's previous fights, especially her boxing fights or championship fights...
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I'm not saying she didn't do it before, but how fucking crazy did that look?
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I'm just saying, if you do your research on Holly, which, you know, I'm a victim of it, too.
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I was like, yeah, I thought Ronda was going to win.
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Didn't I say on this podcast, I go, dude, Ronda didn't...
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I don't know what I said word for word, but I did say that...
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No, what's hilarious is how many people are talking shit now.
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They're so mean about it, but like, you didn't see this coming.
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I didn't call the fucking huge upset in the UFC. My bad.
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Yeah, which is nuts because she's 34. Right, it's true.
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You see the amount of fights that she's had, though.
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And then you see that footwork and those combos that she landed in that fight.
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Man, she had a split decision victory over Raquel Pennington.
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And so she goes from that fight to the Marion Renaud fight, which is a really good fight.
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And then this fight, she just looked like a world beater.
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Well, I think just, you know, fights are all about matchups, styles-wise.
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And I think if Ronda and Holly fight a hundred times, Holly probably wins at least 95. I just think style-wise, it's a bad matchup.
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If she focused, like she did on her striking, keep working the striking.
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But she's got to really take her wrestling to the highest possible levels.
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Yes, you gotta wrestle, wrestle, and if you can't wrestle, you gotta pull guard.
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That's one of the things you can see in those 5'8".
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If those two don't work, because the striking's not going to work, and if the wrestling don't work, all you have left is pulling guard.
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Is Holly Holm some master at anti-guard pulling?
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No, but what I'm saying is, is she a master at anti-guard pulling?
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I said good luck, because is Ronda a master guard puller?
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If the wrestling ain't going to work, if the judo ain't going to work, what else do you have left?
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Smash your end of the cage and win rounds that way.
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When Ryan Hall pulled guard and he tapped two dudes out by pulling guard, it happens all the time.
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How's it working for Ryan Hall on the Ultimate Fighter, though?
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What I was really impressed with Ryan Hall is, man, his striking and his footwork.
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If he just keeps going, Ryan Hall could be a serious threat.
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His striking's on its way to being pretty damn good.
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But you definitely are right about her needing more options for being able to take guys down.
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It's a question of like how long would it take for her to pick up those other options?
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Because she's always looking for the same thing.
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She clinches with girls and she's just a superior grappler.
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She winds up hip tossing them, throwing them on the ground in spectacular fashion, beating their ass and armbarring them.
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Rhonda, she's been doing judo since she was in a diaper.
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So for her to say, okay, now go freestyle wrestle.
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Go try and fucking freestyle wrestle Holly Holm.
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Everyone has all these kind of ideas on what she should do.
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Would you think she has to do what she's always done, but just do it better and more focused?
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Yes, she's got to do what got you to the dance.
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I think you take out the negativity in your life.
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You get a coach who's going to support you, and you put world-class training around you, and you bring to what got you to the dance.
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What you do is you come up with someone, obviously not Greg Jackson because that's Holly Hume.
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You know, that's her guy, but you need someone to come up with a game plan where we're going to take your tools that have got you to this point and we're going to try to implement that with Holly Hume.
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When Dana talked about it, he was like, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Like, that's how he was looking at her training.
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You know, and I'm like, I get that up until now, but now you look at that fight and you gotta go, okay, well, there's obviously Holly has a way in.
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I mean, and Holly has a pretty clear path to victory.
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If Rhonda keeps going forward like she did in that fight, Holly will keep countering her to the end of time.
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I think what Rhonda needs to do is look around and Anyone, including Dana, that says, no, you're good, just keep doing what you're doing, fuck you, see ya, I need to change this up.
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So I'm surrounded by yes men, and everyone thinks everything's all good, everyone that goes, no, she didn't get hurt in the fight, there's no concussion.
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So anyone who says, no, everything's all good, you don't need to change anything, that should be an indicator for her to go, all right, you're out of the crew.
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I think technically, maybe there's some personal issues and stuff, but technically, she hasn't been striking that long.
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So technically, she's at a great spot with her striking.
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Because she wanted to get up there and throw down.
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When she clearly lost round one, she didn't come out thinking, she had no other option.
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You also gotta realize, this isn't like a Buster Douglas Mike Tyson, you know what I'm saying?
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After she tried taking her down, then it's like, fuck man, I have to stand with this girl.
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What did you think about the advice that she was getting in her corner?
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And your coach goes, you're doing great exactly where we want her.
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Again, that's when you're surrounded by yes men.
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But what you're doing right now, don't rush in there with your hands down and your jaw wide open.
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Do you think that she was just so dominant that no one around her thought this could ever happen?
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A ton of people in her circle thought, there's no way this could ever happen.
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When the first round ended and she looked tired, do you think that that tired is from the beating that she took in that round?
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The one thing about Rhonda is, she could be filming...
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So I don't think it's a matter of her being out of shape.
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I think for the first time, she's like, oh shit, man.
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Because your adrenaline's pumping, you're getting fucked up, chasing a girl.
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So I just don't think she's ever been They isolated in the truck, they isolated this one elbow that she hit Ronda with.
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Where Ronda's moving forward, she just steps in and left elbows are on the chin.
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Dude, I can't believe she didn't break her jaw because we see in that first round her mouth wide open, which I've never seen.
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Because that was the big rumor that keeps going around.
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I didn't see it, but I hear when she got off the plane from LAX, this paparazzi, she's covering her face.
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She probably didn't want to talk to those paparazzi.
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I mean, if she would have went right through Holly, that fight would have been fucking forgotten.
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That would have been one of those random fights if she would have just went right through her.
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Instead, that's a moment in time that will go on forever.
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You take away the personalities and the stardom and the friendship, all the stuff that you have for those people, and you just look at it as two components, two numbers interacting with each other.
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One strategy that's really effective with one type of movement, like one really refined movement.
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Footwork, and then angles, and understanding the technique like super well.
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And another, you see this super determined athlete who's been very dominant, but just...
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The numbers aren't adding up and as the round goes up she's further and further in a deficit because she keeps getting cracked and then Holly keeps cutting and then your confidence wanes.
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There's the numbers of times that she's getting hit.
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There's a lot of things like factoring in and it all leads up to that Insane head kick.
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We see an exhausted but still aggressive Rhonda and when Holly pushes her and then BOOM! Sets up that left high kick.
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You're like, that's a martial arts lesson that this can happen.
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That's why fighting so different than other sports can happen to anyone.
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This is an opportunity for Rhonda To show what she's made up.
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These aren't fights where she's just going to dominate, man.
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But also, Holly's also a person that you could tell, if you have young daughters, you want them to be like Holly.
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The media cannot get her to talk shit about Ronda.
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Even when Rhonda was screaming in her face at the weigh-ins, and I asked her, she's like, well, I was just trying to have a drink here.
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And after Rhonda went crazy on her, she didn't even respond back.
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She's been in world title fights multiple times.
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So to her, it was like, all right, let's do it, man.
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You know, there's also, like, she had two other fights in the UFC. The first one, which is, like, the octagon shock fight.
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I'm always willing to kind of throw out the first fight.
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There's, like, so many people, it's just such a big moment, and they go, man, next time, I get it now.
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But this fight is, like, she must have put in just mad hours and been more focused and more determined for this and just had an incredible camp.
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That first round, dude, she never stopped moving, never stopped executing her game plan, even took Ronda down.
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The other two fights I didn't get to see, but...
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Did her opponents stop coming forward or at least stand still or move backwards so they're not really just getting clipped?
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She comes forward like Vonda de Silva in fucking pride.
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She comes forward so hard that that moment happened where it looked like a matador.
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Holly's just on a completely different level when it came to her stand-up.
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And for her to come in in that great of shape and that focused like she was for that fight, you got to see everything she's capable of.
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Which I don't think we've ever seen inside the Octagon.
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Winkle John was saying that they laid back and that she didn't show everything in her first two fights on purpose.
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If she really took it easy on purpose to set up the fight with Ronda and then uncork all of her talent in that one fight.
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Because Holly's striking so much better than everyone's.
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I remember being at Jackson's and the room stopping to watch Holly spar dudes, other girls, and just murking bitches up.
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And like I said, it could not happen to a nicer person.
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But you knew all that, and yet you still thought that Ronda was going to beat her ass.
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I would say I have my black belt in the UFC game.
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I think I said on this or I said on my show, yeah, I think Ronda's going to win.
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But if you look back at Holly's fights, like I've been going back at Holly's fights for...
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Well, those two UFC fights threw everybody off, especially the first one.
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Raquel Pennington, by the way, is tough as fuck.
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She's not going to just charge straight at you like that.
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And again, the Myron Renaud fight, she looked way better.
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And she got fight of the night for that, I think.
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I think it was one of the performances of the night.
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I don't know if it was fight of the night or what, but...
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I don't think we've ever seen a fighter, male or female, in their prime, this big of a superstar, get outclassed like that ever.
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Because we've seen people get caught where you're like, ah, fuck, they'll be back.
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We've never seen where like, oh shit, she got dismantled, son.
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She's going to make Roadhouse, like a female Roadhouse.
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Granted, I realize Ronda's leaps and bounds ahead of a lot of the girls, but she's finally met a girl who she's not.
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So Holly's not on this track to make all the music.
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All Holly wants to be is a world champion of the UFC. Can you imagine if Verdum or Cain Velasquez or Chris Weidman were making movies then trying to defend their belt?
00:31:16.000
Can you imagine if Patrick Cote was doing movies?
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When I see my guy doing something on the side, I'm like, dude, he's about to get fucked up.
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Because while he's balls deep in this script, I'm training my ass off.
00:31:33.000
Sexist guy in the UFC. I didn't know he was fighting on this card.
00:31:36.000
I mean, you're talking about a dude who's a pride veteran.
00:31:38.000
His fucking stand-up looks sharp as shit tonight.
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Well, Japan's weird like that where they just abandon stuff.
00:32:21.000
It's not like football in the US will never die.
00:32:25.000
Something would have to be, even with all the concussion info and this new Will Smith movie, people are like, blah, blah, blah, whatever, whatever.
00:32:39.000
Weren't they super into, like, country westerns?
00:32:44.000
Like, walk-a-billy type shit, dressing up like Elvis.
00:32:49.000
Can't you buy, like, old underwear in the vending machines?
00:32:56.000
In the early 2000s, Japanese were really into having afros.
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When you take a white dude or an Asian dude and give him an afro, what is involved in that process?
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How many hours do you have to spend trying to work that afro?
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That's not something you're just like, ah, I need an afro.
00:33:53.000
Is this a middleweight fight or is this a welterweight fight?
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Is he part of a tie or is that a tan like from a booth?
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Like one of those dudes Bruce Lee fought in his first movie.
00:34:12.000
There's one guy who I might give it to over him and that's Woodley.
00:34:23.000
I know I sound weird here, but Woodley's packing some heat back there.
00:34:34.000
I'll tell you what, Carwin had a fuckin' honeydew melon back there, too.
00:34:53.000
You put a thong on Carwin, man, you would not know.
00:35:04.000
Did homeboy Sexy Yamaha get kicked in the jewels?
00:35:47.000
I believe he's married with a family, Eddie Bravo.
00:36:07.000
It's not normal for a fighter to be built like that.
00:36:10.000
I mean, when you're doing wrestling, jiu-jitsu, kickboxing, it's hard to keep up a physique like that.
00:36:24.000
The bottom line about Juice is those guys that fought in Pride, they definitely could have then...
00:36:34.000
I think he was 185. I think he was in Vanderlei's weight class, right?
00:36:38.000
Dude, for people who are like, oh, steroids aren't that big of a deal.
00:36:41.000
Think of Hunt Bigfoot 2. Oh, they're such a big deal.
00:36:49.000
You know, I mean, that's even sometimes more of a big deal.
00:36:55.000
I was reading this thing about what happens to women bodybuilders.
00:37:06.000
Hey, Minya, good luck getting out there alive when you beat up the fucking national icon.
00:37:34.000
So, I was reading this thing about female bodybuilders and the permanent effects it has on them when they, like...
00:37:40.000
Can you imagine that girls take male hormones just to get jacked like a dude in their underwear and pose on stage?
00:37:50.000
Essentially, you shift way over to the male side.
00:37:58.000
Cycle of steroids, getting a dude's jaw and, you know, titties.
00:38:03.000
Changes their frame, changes their bone structure.
00:38:07.000
But I think if you take female hormones, it takes seven years to get back to where you were.
00:38:17.000
That makes sense because that's how transsexuals do it.
00:38:19.000
A transsexual man takes female hormones and then becomes more feminine over time.
00:38:25.000
Seven years now to see the thing if they're saying that I don't know if it's different 21 years you could go back and forth Yeah, but I don't know if it's different with women I don't know if it's different with women to like if it goes women to men or men to women It's the same if it's the same pace,
00:38:42.000
but they're saying that when a man goes to a woman Dr. Ramona Krutz I think her name is Krutzik They interviewed her for...
00:38:50.000
Steffi Cricklin interviewed her about Fallon Fox.
00:38:54.000
And one of the things they were saying is when you take estrogen, it actually preserves bone density.
00:39:00.000
Because that's why women, when they get older, they develop osteoporosis.
00:39:05.000
So this idea that taking the estrogen is automatically going to give you lower bone density, like a...
00:39:11.000
A woman, oh shit, Akiyama, they're still throwing down.
00:39:15.000
So if you had a woman that took testosterone, got more manly, right, and then started taking estrogen, this doesn't necessarily mean it would shrink her bone structure back down.
00:39:28.000
It's very tricky because there's a cycle to that shit.
00:39:35.000
That's why when dudes take steroids, they get bitch tits.
00:39:37.000
Your body's like, hey, fuckface, what's with all this testosterone?
00:39:44.000
Because all the testosterone, then your body goes, oh, we need estrogen to balance this shit out.
00:39:47.000
Your body's like, you got way too much test, you fucking crazy dick.
00:40:02.000
He's looking good in this round, in consideration of the fact that he almost got stopped just two minutes ago.
00:40:26.000
For sure, just let them both juice to the gills.
00:40:47.000
So did you see that thing that Victor Conte tweeted?
00:41:07.000
Dr. Conte tweeted this thing where some bodybuilding expert zoomed in on Holly Holmes crotch zoomed in on her bikinis and was like they zoomed in on her where her vagina is and they're trying to say that she has clitoral hypertrophy based on Her moose knuckle?
00:41:34.000
For Victor Conte to tweak that out takes all credibility away from him.
00:41:39.000
First of all, you don't know what it looked like before.
00:41:44.000
Like, women's vagina lips are quite different, sir.
00:41:52.000
Yes, the weigh-in photo of her, so they just zoom in.
00:41:56.000
How did they know she wasn't born with those thick, juicy lips?
00:42:04.000
She's the preacher's daughter, you son of a bitch.
00:42:06.000
It's like, I was watching this, I was like, is this real life?
00:42:17.000
I got it in an email blast from him, and I got it in a tweet.
00:42:34.000
But it's another thing for a guy like Victor Conte to tweet it.
00:42:56.000
He's like, he didn't give me a chance to get up.
00:43:03.000
If you've ever seen this fucking guy, you know what I'm talking about, Jamie?
00:43:25.000
See, I was always under the impression that everyone in the NFL was on steroids.
00:43:31.000
I was like, when you see a 350-pound person like that.
00:43:46.000
He's probably one of the biggest guy's arms I've ever seen in professional sports.
00:44:00.000
He's obviously taking them for football, right?
00:44:11.000
So when you see all those gigantic fucking dudes that are playing for the NFL, some of them have got to be genetics, right?
00:44:19.000
I've seen some guys who are just complete freaks where people chalk it up to steroids, but it's not.
00:44:24.000
They're just genetically different than we are.
00:44:26.000
But are they, like, ridiculously ripped and big, or are they like the linemen that are just massive?
00:44:32.000
Like, my best friend, Joe Klopfenstein, he's 6'6", 270, like, 6% body fat.
00:44:40.000
I was with him last night, and he just balls deep in donuts.
00:44:45.000
And then I tried and fucking, yeah, I can't do that, man.
00:45:34.000
Yeah, I mean, the third round, he looked like dog shit.
00:45:36.000
Rounds two and three were both 10-8 rounds, in my opinion.
00:46:02.000
Sometimes when it's a bully beatdown, someone's getting dropped, it has to be 10-8.
00:46:05.000
You can't just like, when guys are getting hurt and they're stunned, like Calvin Gaslam, Neil Magny.
00:46:14.000
You got knocked down twice in a round, you gotta give him 10-8.
00:46:24.000
Somebody tried to tell me that the first round...
00:46:27.000
Somebody tried to tell me that the first round with Gray Maynard versus Frankie Edgar was a 10-9 round.
00:46:35.000
I go, yeah, this is a fucking professional judge.
00:46:41.000
I go, well, that is the epitome of a 10-8 round.
00:46:47.000
And he goes, well, no, because the fight wasn't close to being stopped.
00:46:51.000
That was as close as a fight gets to being stopped.
00:46:55.000
The guy was actually literally saying that to me.
00:46:58.000
Oh my god, it was the most frustrating conversation I've ever had with somebody.
00:47:09.000
Out there in the jungle, dodging capybaras and caymans.
00:47:14.000
Look at him, he's like, my llamas, come home with me.
00:47:20.000
That's gotta be hard, man, when you almost finish the guy in the second round, but then you almost get finished in the third, and you walk away with a victory.
00:47:28.000
Those kind of decisions are weird, because I do go by the idea that, like, I like how Pride did it, where they judged the fight as a whole, but I think the end of the round, the end of the fight's worth more.
00:47:44.000
You're watching two kids fight in the school, in the schoolyard, and then it's going back and forth and back and forth, but the end of the fight, one dude gets on top of the other dude in full mount and punches him in the face a bunch of times, and then the teachers pull him off.
00:48:00.000
I don't care if you hit him 30 times before he took you down, and he only landed three punches while you were down.
00:48:06.000
If he was on top and he was punching you in the face when the teachers came, you won.
00:48:15.000
If you're going back on what you did in the first or second round, obviously it didn't mean anything because you're getting your ass beat at the end.
00:48:21.000
He goes, what about that knockdown in the first round?
00:48:27.000
It's going to be hard to judge like that because then people will do like what they do in Thailand where they wait for the betting so they lay back in the first couple of rounds.
00:48:35.000
You know, you don't want to see people do that.
00:48:41.000
When Neil had his back and was riding him for a long time, had his back for a long-ass time.
00:49:05.000
If a guy is on your back for the whole round and he's trying to get that choke and he gets real close a couple of times, Isn't that kind of like a 10-8?
00:49:15.000
If he has a choke in and it's close, you're like, oh shit, and it's close, the crowd's going up, and then he escapes?
00:49:21.000
But if he just has someone's back, I'm going to just do that.
00:49:36.000
But he's like on a massage chair, closing his eyes like he's getting blown.
00:49:55.000
I'm not mad at that Dory of the Explorer haircut.
00:49:57.000
Oh my god, it's a fucking- an ad for a massage.
00:50:08.000
So what do you think right now with Aldo and McGregor?
00:50:20.000
And I think it's better for the sport for him to win.
00:50:22.000
I think moving forward, if you're the UFC man, you want Conor to win.
00:50:27.000
But Jose Aldo, again, I take heat for this, with the new testing, I don't know how it's going to go down, man.
00:50:49.000
There's a lot of guys that we've seen fighting now with the new testing.
00:51:05.000
But when you look at it as far as past performances, you look at it as far as what their ability...
00:51:11.000
What they can do inside the octagon, it should be an insane fight.
00:51:15.000
Because you look at Aldo hasn't lost in 10 years, right?
00:51:21.000
You watch the most spectacular victories that he's had, like the Cub Swanson fight.
00:51:26.000
Dude, Jose Aldo could be pound for pound number one.
00:51:36.000
Some of the fastest leg kicks in the fucking sport.
00:51:38.000
If you're gonna bet on it, I mean, it's not bad money because Jose's an underdog in Vegas.
00:51:45.000
I just don't understand how someone could call him an underdog.
00:52:02.000
I think a lot of people who make those odds, they don't know the game inside and out.
00:52:25.000
So he's plus 125. That's basically even in MMA. So they're even right now, right?
00:52:36.000
It's the greatest fight card of all time, dude.
00:53:37.000
You know, don't get me wrong, I'm saying it's a great card.
00:54:05.000
It's hard to say that's not the best card in a long fucking time.
00:54:22.000
You guys watching The Ultimate Fighter with Connor?
00:54:29.000
You know, they have stacked it to make sure that if Aldo pulls out, they've got strategies.
00:54:39.000
They've got Frankie Edgar and Chad Mendes fighting the day before.
00:54:47.000
Even though they're doing that, if Jose Aldo were to pull out, we're fucked.
00:54:57.000
Frankie could go in there and make a nightmare out of that.
00:55:08.000
When you watch his fight with Cub Swanson, that motherfucker swarms.
00:55:26.000
I think those years out of the championship spotlight, too, have just made his resolve even stronger.
00:55:32.000
That's going to be a good fight that people are totally sleeping on.
00:55:57.000
Oh, and then the other main event is Paige versus Rose?
00:56:00.000
Yeah, did you see what happened with Paige and the haircut thing?
00:56:05.000
Paige was supposed to, like, they were going to donate money.
00:56:07.000
If they get to a certain amount, she's going to cut her hair off.
00:56:13.000
Like her management team told her not to shave her head.
00:56:24.000
It's like, I'm going to wash myself for charity.
00:57:10.000
Two big, tall, 170s, like, my man, Killer B, I'm in this bitch!
00:57:21.000
Young Jamie, please pull up the information on Mr. Waters.
00:57:45.000
Hey, man, did you notice that Spike TV got rid of Bellator?
00:57:56.000
Yeah, they got rid of it, and ESPN picked it up.
00:58:01.000
No, not necessarily, because I think it's like ESPN 2. I watched the Glory fights when they were on ESPN. It was pretty cool, but, you know, there's so much shit on ESPN, and I don't know how much they're going to, like...
00:58:20.000
I think Glory, like they had a licensing deal or something like that, or a broadcast deal.
00:58:28.000
I just think there's some fans out there of kickboxing.
00:58:34.000
Just need to figure out a way to market it and put some money into it and get people excited about it.
00:58:41.000
I know they were trying to do Bellator and Glory and kind of intertwine some of the stars in there.
00:58:47.000
I guess it didn't work out as well as they wanted.
00:58:50.000
Yeah, they had that one event where they had the ring right next to the cage, which was pretty cool.
00:58:58.000
That would have been cool to go to live, for sure.
00:59:07.000
But he's interesting, too, because a lot of judo and his style as well.
00:59:13.000
Yeah, I was Don Yong Kim for Tyrone Woodley when he fought him in China.
00:59:28.000
That was the one where he came charging at him, right?
00:59:32.000
Yeah, he tried to do a spinning back fist or elbow and got kind of clipped, yeah.
00:59:48.000
Oh, shit, look at that takedown right in the side control.
01:00:27.000
You're doing stand-up out there, too, I would assume.
01:00:38.000
So I have two theaters that I had already sold tickets for.
01:00:42.000
So then I'm going to fly into Boston on Sunday.
01:00:45.000
My mom goes, your friend Joe Rogan's in Rolling Stone.
01:01:03.000
Because it's not really, you know what I'm saying?
01:01:11.000
The guy's obviously never spent a lot of time getting out of this.
01:01:15.000
Yeah, but it seems like his strategy of getting out is not so good.
01:01:20.000
Ten years ago, some guy was owning people with this in the UFC, like ten years ago.
01:01:35.000
This is like one of those things you have to stop the fight because he just can't defend himself.
01:01:42.000
Well, Roy's a heavyweight though with that giant belly.
01:01:44.000
They're just like, ah, yeah, you're not getting out of here.
01:02:01.000
But it seemed like Waters had some space where his arm was.
01:02:06.000
Like, if it's first round two, you're probably gonna be trying to squirm like a motherfucker to get that shit.
01:02:13.000
Yes, he didn't know how to use his shoulders, right?
01:02:18.000
Is there any announcement on what's next for Roy?
01:02:27.000
Somebody photoshopped a picture of Roy Nelson with Akiyama's body, like that kind of body that is just shredded.
01:02:33.000
I don't know whose body they used to photoshop it, but it was another fighter.
01:02:37.000
But with him with a six-pack, yoked, I was like, oh my god, that's what Roy would look like if he fought 185. That is what he would look like.
01:02:44.000
I mean, when you look at Roy, how much weight do you think he could lose?
01:03:20.000
He's got his dick in his hand if you get lower on the picture of the guy in the back.
01:03:33.000
That's Chael when he was about to fight Anderson.
01:03:36.000
Dude, if Roy looked like that and was still knocking bitches out like he does, he would...
01:03:47.000
Well, I wonder what kind of effect that would have on his performance.
01:03:51.000
His whole career, he's been carrying around all that extra weight.
01:03:55.000
Like, that's not outside the realm of possibility that he could actually make that weight.
01:04:00.000
I mean, it is personality-wise and his choices-wise, but as a physical specimen, it's not.
01:04:07.000
You think he could get down that without taking performance-enhancing drugs and be that shredded?
01:04:25.000
I mean, you're going to lose a little muscle, a lot of fat, and you get in great shape.
01:04:36.000
If he dedicated himself to strength and conditioning and started running every day and doing a bunch of shit and eating.
01:04:48.000
I did this thing with my DNA. It's called Simplified Genetics where you put your DNA in a swab and you send it to them and it gives a breakdown.
01:04:58.000
It's called Simply Fit where they do what kind of What weights and cardio you should be doing for your body?
01:05:05.000
What kind of diet you should be doing that best reacts with your DNA? And they also have one for concussions, which was scary.
01:05:13.000
Where they can tell from your DNA how prone to, when you do get a concussion, how bad it's going to be on a scale of 1 to 5. Big Brown was a 4. I was scared.
01:05:29.000
And I was like, goddammit, I don't need to know that.
01:05:35.000
I got ten years left, guys, if you want to do this.
01:05:37.000
They're gonna shoot some stem cells right into your brain.
01:05:45.000
Just put a little thin hole there, it'll fill up.
01:05:47.000
Get that syringe in there, pump it right in the middle of your brain.
01:06:00.000
In LA. Dude, I had some shot into my shoulder in Vegas where they use women's placenta.
01:06:08.000
Women that have cesarean sections, they get stem cells out of their placenta and they shoot it right into your shoulder or whatever.
01:06:17.000
Dude, my shoulder was fucking with me for like a year.
01:06:32.000
It's not like it worked for a little while and then it backed off.
01:06:34.000
It's doing something different than all this platelet-rich plasma and Regenicene, things along those lines, which reduce inflammation, promote healing, and they're very beneficial.
01:06:45.000
I mean, women's placenta, what did that set you back?
01:06:55.000
I think it's pretty normal when they want to save the vag.
01:07:16.000
Oh, by the way, I got some of these badass pickles right here, son.
01:07:32.000
Dude, when you make those posts that night of your fucking elk meat and moose, and I have fucking Chipotle or something, it makes me feel bad about myself.
01:07:42.000
And when you have eggs and shit, it makes me so hungry.
01:08:04.000
Yeah, I think it was like two cups of cranberries, one cup of sugar, and one cup of water.
01:08:29.000
I just send the Postmates to go pick me up some food.
01:08:32.000
Dude, if we were neighbors, I would have you come over and eat some elk.
01:08:38.000
By the way, I got two commercial freezers here because I shot so much elk this year.
01:08:46.000
I got something for you too, Eddie, but I don't know if you're going to eat it.
01:08:53.000
Do you know Chipotle and the equalize shit going on?
01:09:11.000
There's that many of them that are having problems?
01:09:24.000
The first couple stores they found it in, they stripped them clean, cleaned them all, and they couldn't find the trace.
01:09:31.000
It's been in Ohio, it's been in like seven or eight states, yeah.
01:09:52.000
You know, I feel like we're getting this super athlete, like one of the greatest wrestlers of all time, and we're getting him deep into his career.
01:10:03.000
You know, I mean, Yoel Romero is a monster athlete.
01:10:07.000
But we're getting him at like 36 when they have the most stringent testing.
01:10:21.000
God damn, look at that combination of those front kicks to the body and that left hand.
01:10:28.000
His heart is fucked at 145. He's a beast, dude.
01:10:33.000
Do you guys know that Weidman stopped drinking, and now he weighs 190 pounds.
01:10:48.000
Stopped drinking booze, started eating really healthy, and he's coming into this fight really lean.
01:10:53.000
I think he maybe anticipates like a serious pace.
01:10:59.000
Yeah, with the IV. I think this is the hardest fight to call for me.
01:11:02.000
I think it's the greatest fight in middleweight history.
01:11:06.000
You know, the only thing that it would be the greatest all-time fight if Rockhold didn't have that fight with Vitor.
01:11:17.000
But when Vitor wheel kicked him in the head and stopped him in the first round like that, it did sort of change the perception of Rockhold.
01:11:29.000
Neither one of them are ever going to be this good again, I don't think.
01:11:38.000
I'm so torn more than on any other fighter because I think TRT Vitor is probably one of my all-time favorite fighters.
01:11:56.000
I like Anadrol Vitor when he was 19 when he had the traps that were just fucking like this.
01:12:10.000
His muscles started at the top of his head and went straight down like ski ramps.
01:12:20.000
Yeah, well, I think Jon Jones has a really good point.
01:12:22.000
That someone in the Athletic Commission, whoever is responsible, didn't tell him that Vitor had tested positive or that he had tested with elevated test levels.
01:12:36.000
And he goes, oh no, I have three years to press charges.
01:12:42.000
Whoever did that, whether it's the Athletic Commission, whatever, who's responsible at that point in time?
01:12:55.000
You'd have to be ridiculous if you don't think some of the UFC brass knew what Vitor was doing.
01:13:01.000
Wasn't this a time where Vitor took the fight on short notice because Chael Sonnen, was that the same fight?
01:13:12.000
Which, by the way, in any other sport, in any other sport, yeah, it was Dan Henderson, in any other sport, that would be a ridiculous thing to ask.
01:13:21.000
It would be ridiculous to ask Miguel Cotto last minute to not fight Canelo Alvarez, but to fight Floyd Mayweather.
01:13:26.000
Everybody would be like, what the fuck are you talking about?
01:13:30.000
I took so many years of training to get to the world championship level.
01:13:34.000
And then you're making me look like an asshole?
01:13:37.000
Boy, he gave Chael a fucking beating after that.
01:13:43.000
He gave him such a beating that he broke his own toe, pushing off the mat while he's beating the fuck out of him.
01:13:50.000
He's like, yeah, you know, now I'm just going to start taking this serious and start training.
01:13:57.000
Are you watching all this powerlifting going, ooh, don't get hurt?
01:14:03.000
I'm like, oh shit, he's training like a professional athlete now.
01:14:23.000
The big 600-pound deadlift is scheduled for Monday.
01:14:26.000
But he's got to watch his weight if he's staying 205 with the IVs.
01:14:36.000
Will that factor in that extra muscle in his endurance?
01:14:42.000
I think it's gonna help him, because he's gonna be stronger.
01:14:48.000
And he's also not been a guy who's trained outside camp.
01:14:52.000
Now he's training, so I think his body's gonna adapt to it.
01:14:56.000
And he talked about going to heavyweight, too, after this.
01:15:01.000
The weight cut, especially with the IVs and whatnot, because I know he was talking about it for a while, going to heavyweight, and he probably cuts a lot, and that's probably a pretty hard cut.
01:15:12.000
If Weidman can beat Rockhold, which is obviously a big if, that's a big fight.
01:15:17.000
But if Weidman beats Rockhold, and Jon Jones and Weidman hook up in Madison Square Garden, good fucking googly moogly.
01:15:30.000
There's a Jon Jones before and after picture we're looking at.
01:15:36.000
Where he's like out of shape in between camps for one fight.
01:15:41.000
And then 2015, he's on the right and just looks like the Hulk.
01:15:45.000
Dude, he said when he was fighting Alexander, he was like, yeah, it's the first time I was tired in a fight because I really didn't train.
01:15:52.000
And this dude still goes into the octagon confident.
01:16:01.000
I'm interested to see what's going to happen with this Vitor thing, if they really did know that he had elevated test level.
01:16:11.000
I'm sure nothing will come out until after he's done fighting.
01:16:13.000
Because when you look at the fight, John got caught in a deep armbar in that.
01:16:24.000
And then we found out that Vitor had elevated test levels.
01:16:26.000
You have a lol suit on your motherfucking hands.
01:16:31.000
It's a very strange time because I feel like, you know, they're saving the blood and they're saving the urine for years.
01:16:41.000
And how many people are getting by on the sneak tip with some shit that they haven't figured out yet?
01:16:48.000
What are you going to do with that saved blood and urine like eight years from now to shit on legends?
01:17:03.000
We're just going to shit on everything you've ever done.
01:17:04.000
I mean, there's probably going to be a lot of extra blood that's unnecessary then, right?
01:17:09.000
Because how many fighters are probably going to get that in seven years from now?
01:17:14.000
Well, what's going to happen is when sophisticated testing...
01:17:18.000
When it improves, when it gets better and better, then they're going to go, oh, well, now, like, they didn't used to be able to test for EPO. They didn't used to be able to test for HGH. HGH is a real recent one, right?
01:17:29.000
And now, apparently, there's a new version of artificial testosterone that they're getting from animals.
01:17:38.000
They were getting it somehow or another from wild yams.
01:17:44.000
But now, apparently, they're figuring out how to extract it from animals.
01:17:48.000
And when they give it to people, it doesn't show up.
01:17:51.000
It's like the carbon isotope test doesn't show up.
01:17:55.000
But wouldn't your levels would still be elevated, right?
01:17:59.000
But they would be, even though they were high, they would still be human levels.
01:18:05.000
Like, when they do that carbon isotope test, apparently, they test it and they can tell.
01:18:10.000
They're like, oh, motherfucker, you got yams running through your veins.
01:18:14.000
Well, my thing is, all right, so you're going to store all this blood and shit like that for eight years.
01:18:18.000
You tell me a guy tests positive eight years from now, I'm like, dude, who's been watching this shit?
01:18:26.000
Has it been under the care of these exact guys?
01:18:29.000
They have a facility where they have a chain of custody.
01:18:34.000
They have 24-hour security cameras and all that good shit, dude.
01:18:51.000
Dude, we have the strictest testing out of any sport now.
01:18:57.000
Maybe focus on the fight kids instead of testing, huh?
01:19:08.000
Well, they spelled most of the people's names right.
01:19:12.000
They put for Conor's shirt and they put the U.S. flag on it.
01:19:21.000
I think he's from Ireland, bought the Conor McGregor jersey in this US flag and goes, this can't be right, is it?
01:19:28.000
Isn't it weird that all the shit that Reebok's taken on their designs and they still haven't changed anything?
01:19:33.000
You would think by now they would have changed the goddamn design.
01:19:38.000
But if you change the design, you have to admit that it sucked.
01:19:43.000
We didn't realize it was going to suck balls so bad.
01:19:49.000
You got to get used to dudes fighting with white shorts on so that as soon as there's any blood or their junk gets outlined, their ass looks like they shit themselves because they're just running around on the ground.
01:20:00.000
Dude, why not just be like, ah, my bad, my bad, we fucked up.
01:20:03.000
Here's a new one, though, we've been working on.
01:20:05.000
I think they said it's like a two-year process.
01:20:08.000
Like, every two years, they're going to change the style or evolve the uniform.
01:20:15.000
They should eliminate shorts and make everybody fight with tights on.
01:20:22.000
Like, you know, don't grab a short, don't grab a short.
01:20:26.000
Why is there an option to grab something like...
01:20:27.000
Some guys aren't comfortable wearing the tights, though.
01:20:55.000
You know, if someone like him went over to Bellator, that would make a big noise, you know?
01:21:00.000
They got Phil Davis, which I think made some good noise, you know?
01:21:08.000
What about 1FC? If, like, John Jones' contract goes up, and John Jones bails and goes over to Bellator.
01:21:36.000
His brain pulls back together and then explodes again.
01:21:43.000
Well, if Viacom really wanted, like, they have so much money, if they really wanted to sink in and just blow, like, a couple hundred million bucks and go, look, we'll just fucking take over this bitch.
01:21:53.000
Let's make it Spike TV MMA. How many people do you think they could do that to?
01:22:01.000
You'd have to give them so much money that they don't ever have to fight again.
01:22:05.000
You'd have to give each guy, like Benson Henderson, you'd have to give them like three million bucks.
01:22:11.000
Even if you have all that money, you're just never going to be the same superstar over there.
01:22:20.000
Well, then Bellator needs to do a lot of things different.
01:22:29.000
Like, when it got taken over by Scott Coker, they weren't sure if they were gonna keep Bellator MMA. They should've asked Big Brown.
01:22:51.000
Time for the Kissy Kissy Pow Pow World Championships.
01:23:11.000
Hootie's a fucking country singer because the shit didn't work out and he changed his name.
01:23:29.000
They were gigantic with slightly overweight white girls.
01:23:48.000
And the country music people, they needed a guy like him.
01:24:25.000
I don't know, because Team Takedown invested all this money in him, right?
01:24:28.000
I don't know how that works, because I heard a bunch of different versions of how that works.
01:24:35.000
Yeah, like they gave him a salary, and then they would get 50% of his winnings.
01:24:39.000
I think he got a salary, they took care of a house to live in.
01:24:47.000
At this point, you become a champion, he might have had the money to...
01:24:56.000
Resvedal is one of my favorite fighters to watch.
01:25:11.000
And I think at 170, again, he's a guy who doesn't have to hurt his body to fucking make that weight.
01:25:18.000
Like Robert Whittaker when he fought Uriah Hall.
01:25:20.000
That's three in a row at 85. A lot of people were saying he's too small for 85. Three in a row at 85 looks awesome.
01:25:33.000
And good transitions between striking and grappling, but Benson is such a good grappler.
01:25:39.000
You know Benson outside camp spends all his time in a gi?
01:25:48.000
John Crouch from that old-school Gracie lineage.
01:25:56.000
He was just getting ready to fight, pursuing it, and we walked in, we trained together.
01:26:05.000
Next time I saw him, we were both in UFC signing posters.
01:26:14.000
Yeah, he's like keeping it in kicking distance.
01:26:19.000
Benson's keeping it in his distance, and Masvidal's trying to close it up.
01:26:23.000
Ooh, nice shot by Masvidal right to the body and the right hand.
01:26:26.000
Yeah, I'd give the striking edge to Masvidal, but it doesn't look like it so far.
01:26:30.000
Well, so far, Benson was keeping him on the outside, but that combination, that right kick to the body and right hand, that had some fucking steam on it.
01:26:41.000
So Ben's trying to knock his ass out too, though.
01:26:53.000
Dude, and knees are nothing to fuck with either.
01:26:55.000
You know, a lot of times it ruins NFL guys' careers.
01:26:58.000
Cormier got his knee shot up with the stem cells.
01:27:14.000
What if they did DC, Jon Jones, and Matt Square Garden?
01:27:23.000
Yeah, because I think that DC gets a second chance.
01:27:30.000
Not going to fall for the emotional rollercoaster ride that he got in with Jon.
01:27:34.000
It's probably gonna stay calm and also doesn't, you know, his knees not as fucked up, but then he's dealing with a focused John who's like not doing coke three weeks out.
01:27:57.000
I'm just saying at Madison Square Garden will it happen.
01:27:59.000
You think they'll give it to Jon Jones right away?
01:28:01.000
That Madison Square Garden thing, though, it's not definite yet.
01:28:06.000
I think they have to jump through a lot of hoops before April.
01:28:12.000
He caught him with the right hand, and that was right when Masvidal was going with that right kick to the body again, too.
01:28:19.000
Madison Square Garden UFC would be fucking insane.
01:28:23.000
You've got to stack that card like this December card.
01:28:36.000
I always think that's how you can tell an elite striker when you see guys go to the body.
01:28:51.000
He'll mix it up, and his jiu-jitsu is sneaky on the ground, man.
01:29:16.000
He'd pounce and they were timing it after their first fight.
01:29:33.000
There's one more thing that he doesn't have to think about.
01:30:11.000
His second big win at 170. I mean, he's right up there, man.
01:30:18.000
We just watched round one, and who do you think won that round?
01:30:27.000
If that's a 10-9 round, how is Frankie Edgar versus Gray Maynard?
01:30:40.000
Frankie Edgar got cracked in the first round where he was down multiple times, completely wobbled, looked like he was out.
01:30:53.000
If you told me 10-6, oh yeah, I'm cool with that.
01:30:56.000
He tried to tell me it was 10-9 because at the end of the round, Frankie had recovered.
01:31:01.000
Dude, if we were in a restaurant and he told me that, I'd piss in his mouth.
01:31:04.000
I would have stood on the table and pissed right on his mouth.
01:31:15.000
Dude, how about Ben Henderson had big fucking Joe Riggs in his corner?
01:31:28.000
Is he still in the UFC? His last fight was Cote?
01:31:43.000
Ben, you know Patrick Ote's first team all cutie.
01:31:52.000
Masvidal's landing that right kick to the body a lot.
01:32:18.000
You have that guy as your favorite training partner, and you're going to get good at wrestling, man.
01:32:33.000
Dan Lambert just opened up a new giant ATT. Have you been there, Dan?
01:33:21.000
I wonder if there's any benefit of having all that hair.
01:33:26.000
I was thinking the comfort effect that you guys were saying, oh, he needs to shave it.
01:33:29.000
But if you're in the fight and he keeps a toothpick, and if you get used to just moving your hair back, maybe that's kind of like your reset in your head.
01:33:39.000
You're just like, okay, I'm just chilling out, getting my breath back, and then you're coming with the combos.
01:33:50.000
When he would touch his hair, Frankie would fucking come at him, man.
01:33:56.000
The fact that he's fought world championship fights with a toothpick stuck inside of his mouth.
01:34:03.000
Some people use their breathing as a comfort thing to relax their breathing and be like, alright, I'm good, I'm safe.
01:34:13.000
I had an old Japanese surfer, stoner, student named Yoshi, and he used to roll and do jiu-jitsu and chew gum.
01:34:22.000
He said that when you're chewing, it keeps you sharper.
01:34:30.000
Yeah, another thing I've heard is that when you chew gum before something, it's good because your body relaxes, because it says, well, we can't be in danger, this motherfucker wouldn't be eaten.
01:34:54.000
How about you're sharper because your body's going, this motherfucker's eating, he's vulnerable.
01:34:58.000
You better keep those senses on point because right now I can get attacked by some Wolverine or something.
01:35:24.000
I'd love to see what kind of contract Bellator offers Ben after this.
01:36:08.000
That's a good move because that position's terrible.
01:36:13.000
You can't knee him in the head if you don't know what we're talking about.
01:36:19.000
Masvidal's face is a mess now from those knees.
01:36:32.000
And that gray area where it's the transition of touching, you hit a guy in the face and they stop it.
01:36:42.000
Herb Dean, someone is doing that and they get nailed.
01:37:04.000
I go three rounds, I'll be drinking coffee, three hours.
01:37:10.000
Do you just gorilla piss it when you get out of here?
01:37:33.000
That's terrible, and they're white, and it blends in with the ring.
01:37:44.000
How about the main sponsor is that massage chair?
01:38:09.000
I like a fight like this being five rounds, too.
01:38:11.000
Fuck yes, because it's going to get more clear as these rounds go on.
01:38:15.000
Did they fly them in, or are we talking about some Korean judges?
01:38:19.000
Since Sexyama lost, I've got to assume they're not Korean, because Korea is notoriously bad for...
01:38:30.000
Remember when Roy Jones Jr. fought in Seoul, South Korea, in the finals of the Olympics, lit that dude up like a fucking Christmas tree in Times Square, and they gave it to the Korean.
01:38:42.000
And then the Olympic Committee, they got in trouble, and there was all this, like, allegations of bribery.
01:38:51.000
You go and watch that fight, Roy Jones Jr. and Roy Jones Jr. that dude, man.
01:39:20.000
Fury's undefeated, and not to mention, this is the first fighter that Klitschko's face that's bigger than him.
01:39:35.000
The fucking fight is this monster, this dying piece of a man in England named Joshua.
01:39:47.000
I think he's 6'7", light on his feet, athletic, knocking dudes out, undefeated.
01:39:52.000
I'm telling you, this is the next motherfucker.
01:40:48.000
See if you can find, like, a professional ball.
01:41:02.000
See if you can find one that's a professional fight.
01:41:33.000
Wow, that's what they've been waiting for, right?
01:41:47.000
We didn't even pay attention to the last round.
01:41:56.000
Though he did drop him in the first round, I would imagine he finished strong, Masvidal, in the first round, so they would give it to him.
01:42:09.000
Well, the second round was Henderson, wasn't it?
01:42:13.000
So I'd give probably the first round a Masvidal, third round a...
01:42:20.000
Right, that's why I don't know, but it would be 9-9 realistically if you're going with that.
01:42:23.000
We shouldn't score when we're not even paying any attention.
01:42:33.000
I haven't watched five minutes of this fight in its entirety once.
01:42:44.000
Knowing when to hit that switch kick, when to throw the body.
01:43:00.000
I was going to say that was pretty interesting.
01:43:03.000
They gave him a stool to sit in while they waited for his balls.
01:43:11.000
They clashed knees and it went right into the jig.
01:43:26.000
So it was at the end of the fight, or end of the round.
01:43:33.000
It's interesting that more people don't wear those compression shorts like diamond MMA cups.
01:43:42.000
Like fighters, a lot of them don't even know about them.
01:43:52.000
Another thing you always gotta worry about when you're dealing with those is if by any way it does pinch or nick it, you're still getting, now you're getting that smashed by the cup itself.
01:44:08.000
Yeah, dude, it can, the edge of your balls can get caught with a cup on a kick.
01:44:22.000
No, the diamond cup, honestly, he hooked me up when I went to Chicago.
01:44:26.000
He gave me one, and that was the first time I ever used it.
01:44:37.000
So what do they do differently that prevents the balls being pinched?
01:44:41.000
They have a crazy setup with the compression shorts and all these straps and everything.
01:44:45.000
And then the cup itself is like soft on the outside on the edges where it like connects to your leg, but then hard everywhere else.
01:44:55.000
That's like the cup I had in a junior All-American football.
01:45:11.000
I'm telling you, man, these diamond ones, you won't even notice it, and it will protect your dick.
01:45:21.000
Well, the other thing about the Thai cups were that people would use them for leverage.
01:45:25.000
Like, they would say that it's like a leverage point for an armbar or something like that.
01:45:38.000
Like, sometimes people mount you and they'll grapevine or they'll get that dick right in your sternum.
01:45:48.000
If they could press the hard steel cup right into your solar plexus, that sucks, dude.
01:46:03.000
Eddie, you need to get on one of these nitro things.
01:46:21.000
I think he drank four of these during the podcast.
01:46:24.000
He was so, and he had coffee, regular coffee too.
01:47:00.000
We got a slice of pizza the other day, and this fool fucking sat me down and got deep.
01:47:29.000
Especially more fluidity to Masvidal's punching.
01:47:47.000
Although Ben did beat him, but Masvidal versus Brandon Thatch.
01:47:55.000
How is Thatch doing with the weight cutting now that he can't use an IV anymore?
01:48:02.000
Yeah, he's a big-ass Wonserian, and he's also not that disciplined, so we'll see.
01:48:52.000
Yeah, he did control his posture the entire time.
01:48:59.000
This would be a good time to plug EBI. Oh, shit.
01:49:03.000
Sunday, December 13th, EBI 5. I just released the Countdown Show.
01:49:34.000
Now he's going up to 55, but no one gives a shit because he actually did 170 and tapped out Enrico Coco and he tapped out one of my guys.
01:49:43.000
How can he move so well up and down and weight like that?
01:49:45.000
He's so good with heel hooks, man, that he could do major damage at 170, 155, 145. It must be hard for him to make 145, though.
01:49:59.000
Cummings probably walks around at 165. That's what it seems like.
01:50:05.000
Dude, he did Same Day Way and 145 EBI 4. That's impressive.
01:50:15.000
EBI 5 is going to be on pay-per-view at budovideos.com slash EBI 5. Powerful, EBI, greatest, without a doubt, the greatest format ever for grappling competition.
01:50:30.000
It's so perfect because it's very exciting up until the final part because everybody's worried about the final part, but you solved the stalemate part and put them in bad positions and have them alternate between having the back mount with an over-under and having spiderweb.
01:50:51.000
Dude, I might have a heart attack if I drink another one, but I'm going to do it.
01:50:55.000
And then we got Denny coming back to defend his title.
01:50:59.000
And then Nathan Orchard at 155. That's a different animal because it's hard for him to make 55. He's going to be the tallest, longest man with his dead orchards and his leg locks.
01:51:19.000
I want to get a fucking shirt from him because he's got Team Constrictor.
01:51:25.000
I always wanted to ask him when they were going into the Octagon.
01:51:28.000
But he was fought on the undercard, so I never got a chance to get back there.
01:51:31.000
Dude, I wish he was one of them Team Constrictor shirts.
01:51:48.000
Dude, I get so many tweets during UFC. Oh, this is UFC Honey Dick.
01:52:08.000
As soon as he started grappling with Crookshank, just shut all that down.
01:52:49.000
Okay, so that's a really close situation, right?
01:53:01.000
I mean, just because he doesn't get stunned and he doesn't get brain damage from that, that shouldn't factor in.
01:53:08.000
That's as close as ending the fight is getting knocked down.
01:53:14.000
Like if you do an arm bar and they get out of the arm bar, but they did hyperextend or break it or pop it, then you're still damaged and fucked.
01:53:23.000
If you got his back, if you took him down past his guard, dominated grappling, and then almost choked him, yes, 10-8.
01:53:30.000
But from this kind of position, and then he throws a guillotine, but then they're still grappling against the fence.
01:53:37.000
He's not going to go through all that if it's not tight.
01:53:59.000
Dude, he had some of the best ground and pound where he would stand in the guard and just drop bombs and stay almost in a...
01:54:31.000
Ben's grappling the fuck out of them right now.
01:54:38.000
It's an unconfirmed rumor in 2008. They don't call them Detroit Superstar for nothing.
01:54:47.000
It said something about Solo and some other name.
01:54:56.000
In the future, there's gonna be Photoshop so realistic and CGI so realistic on everybody's computer.
01:55:04.000
Whether you like it or not, there's gonna be videos you getting stuffed.
01:55:08.000
Well, there's been memes that made me just sucking dick left and right.
01:55:13.000
They're gonna be able to do that shit with video in no time.
01:55:16.000
You know, like any video you watch today, highly suspect.
01:55:20.000
Of a news event, a monster attack, Bigfoot in the woods.
01:55:30.000
You're gonna be able to watch every celebrity you've ever wanted to watch.
01:55:41.000
Tracy Lourdes and all of them together in a room.
01:56:02.000
The holograms will be so good, you won't be able to see through them.
01:56:05.000
They'll look like real three-dimensional objects in front of you.
01:56:10.000
You're just gonna be shooting loads, and the loads will go through them.
01:56:26.000
What we're going to see in the next 20 years as far as the ability to artificially manipulate images and make things like that magic leap.
01:56:36.000
You ever seen that magic leap technology they're working on?
01:56:38.000
They don't know how they're doing it because they haven't revealed it yet.
01:56:41.000
But they show, like, this elephant dancing in this person's hand.
01:56:46.000
They show this little girl, like, sitting on a bed, and a four-inch ballerina is dancing in front of her on the bed, and it looks real.
01:56:57.000
See, the thing is, in the images that they show, they haven't fully revealed it yet, but in the images they show people doing it, the people don't have any goggles on.
01:57:06.000
There's, like, it's not, like, there's some technology they have where you see it through, like, ski goggles.
01:57:14.000
This is like under a DEX, shot directly through Magic Leap technology.
01:57:19.000
So they have these holograms that they can project in the air like that.
01:57:27.000
I know, like you're sitting there eating, and above you is the solar system spinning around.
01:57:34.000
The ones that they showed, they had one of them where it was a whale on the beach.
01:57:39.000
Did you see in Robin Williams' will, he has a contract where they can't use any of his name or likeness for future holograms or any technology like this?
01:57:50.000
He's like, I don't want to be recreated when technology can do that kind of stuff.
01:58:00.000
Where the Earth is in relation to the other planets, like real-time.
01:58:04.000
Pretty smart that they pretend that you're looking at the planets, because they put it right over that girl's titties.
01:58:20.000
Is there some, like, TED-type show with the latest technology and jerking off?
01:58:36.000
I didn't watch it close enough, but Split Decision sounds right.
01:59:01.000
I just want to give thanks to God, win or lose.
01:59:34.000
Unless Kenny Florin, and we didn't listen to the commentary, unless he was saying in the commentary that he thought that Masvidal won.
02:00:04.000
Damn, they're talking to Benson in Korean like he doesn't understand English?
02:00:29.000
How's the interpreter going to actually interpret this?
02:00:45.000
You know, for me, this was your best performance, especially in regards to your striking, man.
02:00:54.000
Well, we weren't really paying attention that much.
02:00:57.000
Kenny was on the shtick, fondling his luscious beard.
02:01:36.000
I get this texted to me or tweeted to me more often than not when I connect myself to you guys in some way.
02:02:03.000
Dude, at these live shows, they asked us to sing it.
02:02:05.000
Me and Brian are starting this chant of Big Dick Bandits.
02:02:21.000
Like I was talking before, I'm just worried about the Seattle and Portland because they're huge theaters for us.
02:02:32.000
No, we're doing a Midwest run and an East Coast run later in 2016. What are you going to do?
02:03:01.000
With the UFC, the problem is UFC doesn't announce their schedule as far in advance as you usually do book theaters and stuff like that.
02:03:10.000
So a lot of times, I'll come into a place, they'll announce it a couple months out, and I'll go, let me see if I can find a place where I can work.
02:03:18.000
If I'm lucky, I can get the comedy club on a Friday night, but a lot of times I can't even do that.
02:03:30.000
I'm just saying, especially if UFC's in town, everyone wants to see your shit.
02:03:50.000
We gotta have the fight before McGregor puts more tattoos on, too.
02:04:03.000
The tattoo's so good it looks 3D. It doesn't look like a tattoo.
02:04:19.000
How come they're not showing the short-haired rose pick?
02:04:40.000
I dated a girl who was completely shaved and bald when I first moved out to California.
02:04:57.000
You don't shave your head just for the fucks of it.
02:05:00.000
That's like some cleansing heroin recovery shit.
02:05:18.000
Like, at least when we were looking at each other, I could see, like, you're pretty.
02:05:25.000
I've been with muscular chicks, and my dick goes, doggy style, and my dick goes.
02:05:35.000
You know, I was 26. You can't handle weirdness at 26. Hell no.
02:05:56.000
We should just get together at 5 o'clock in the morning some days and just have a podcast.
02:06:04.000
Watch Fox News and talk about the girls delivering the news.
02:06:36.000
They don't even fight around with natural skin colors.
02:06:44.000
Do they have that on YouTube, them Spanish ladies doing the weather?
02:06:48.000
Have you seen that Spanish girl on Telemundo doing the weather?
02:07:08.000
She like crossed over because she was like on TMZ and shit.
02:07:25.000
Yeah, weird that my dick's filling up with blood.
02:07:29.000
Look at her ass in the right hand, the last frame.
02:07:36.000
First of all, it's really rude that she sticks it out like that.
02:07:42.000
Isn't that funny that a girl's totally allowed to stick her ass cheeks out like that?
02:07:45.000
Like, if a guy walks around like this, puffs his chest out, and throws his arms back, the guy's a loser.
02:07:57.000
If she stands like that for long, she's going to blow a disc.
02:08:04.000
You can't carry anything with your ass like that.
02:08:07.000
If she tried to carry a lunchbox, she might fucking have a herniated disc.
02:08:19.000
The ass on the right-hand side is off the charts insane.
02:08:26.000
Yeah, you know, there's that that Latin body that voluptuous like what's that girl?
02:08:42.000
Okay, so she doesn't even have to like arch your back.
02:09:01.000
It makes our weather girls look like fucking shit.
02:09:04.000
It's a little fucking pro tip to the guy doing the video.
02:09:34.000
Who has a body like that on planet Earth doing the weather?
02:09:45.000
Meanwhile, in America, we get that fucking guy, the black guy lost all the weight.
02:10:18.000
You find a hotter weather girl, come talk to me.
02:10:22.000
There's like a level of hot, they just get different.
02:10:28.000
It gets to a certain point where you're like, okay, this is just hot.
02:10:33.000
She's a 10. Yeah, no guy looks at that and goes...
02:10:36.000
But that's one of the most hilarious things about guys online.
02:10:43.000
Yeah, that's the standard one that people always mock.
02:10:46.000
But there's so many guys that talk shit about unbelievably smoking hot chicks.
02:11:07.000
Dude, the internet and social media is fucking vicious.
02:11:14.000
Like Rhonda came, go on social media right now.
02:11:27.000
You know, that's a kind of KO, too, that you've got to go, man, hopefully she recovers 100%, and she's back, and everything's great.
02:11:35.000
But you don't have to recover 100% from a KO like that.
02:11:45.000
What about, you know, obviously health issues, what about your confidence?
02:11:50.000
You think you're invincible, you think you're the baddest motherfucker on the planet, then all of a sudden, it's like, nah, you're just like the rest of us.
02:11:59.000
But confidence, I feel like maybe you could get that back through meditation, or through hypnosis, or through something, or through just hard work and determination, maybe, but...
02:12:09.000
The physical stuff, like if it's bad, it's bad.
02:12:18.000
He has never fought since, and now we went back to work.
02:12:41.000
Those mining jobs, like in Alberta, they make good money.
02:12:48.000
I mean, he might not have won the first time at the title, but he had real legit world-class skills.
02:13:02.000
Didn't he have an ACL too or something like that?
02:13:11.000
If Conor has a bad loss, if he gets like KO'd and gets caught real bad, head kick or something, I mean, damn.
02:13:20.000
First of all, Holly Holm's all over the place now.
02:13:25.000
She's all over ESPN and all these different sports shows.
02:13:28.000
She easily could have a gigantic pay-per-view in her next card.
02:13:37.000
But if it's not Ronda, she might have half a million.
02:13:49.000
People are going to want to see her fight again.
02:13:51.000
And if they see her fight someone like Cyborg maybe.
02:13:55.000
Or 140. If she says, I'll step up to 140. And she fights Cyborg at 140. Or even, I think she fought as high as 150 when she was kickboxing.
02:14:08.000
I don't think she'll ever be as big of a star as Ronda, no matter how many fights she makes.
02:14:12.000
Ronda's had this perfect storm of personality and hatred and destroying girls in 16 seconds where it was like this perfect storm.
02:14:20.000
What if she becomes the next Cynthia Rothrock, man?
02:14:30.000
She was like a forms champion, Cynthia Rothrock.
02:14:42.000
That would be a crazy fight if Gina Carano came back.
02:14:46.000
Let's say, and there's a good chance, I'm not even hating, but let's say Conor were to lose.
02:15:00.000
But how come Aldo can't be a megastar, but Anderson was?
02:15:13.000
It could also be the middleweight division's been for how long?
02:15:16.000
Middleweight's been forever, and then Aldo's kind of still the only and the new division.
02:15:21.000
But if Aldo crushes McGregor, people will just make comparisons to Ronda.
02:15:30.000
They're like, oh, UFC, just the hype train, blah, blah, blah.
02:15:41.000
But both, Conor and Aldo, both of them, that's real.
02:15:45.000
I mean, you look at Conor destroying Mendez, beating the fuck out of Seaver, blasting Poirier out in the first round...
02:15:53.000
I mean, it doesn't compare to what Jose Alves done at all.
02:15:55.000
No, but the Brandao KO, but he's legitimately skilled, 100%.
02:16:03.000
The what the fuck is going to happen factor is very high, right?
02:16:07.000
You look at that fight, it's like, what the fuck is going to happen?
02:16:10.000
You could speculate all day, but the best is what's going to happen after whoever wins, you'll be able to go online and there'll be the I told you so dudes.
02:16:24.000
Way to fucking go, Joe Rogan, Eddie Bravo, and Ben.
02:16:30.000
What is kind of crazy is the ferocious beating they're giving Ronda.
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Like when you post that night before the fight, like, you fucking fake ass bitch, blah, blah.
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So when you act like that and you don't shake hands and you're an actual, you know, when you go after these girls and you don't have a reason to, then people are like, you know what, now you're being a bully.
02:17:04.000
Eddie Bravo, it was back before we knew that North-South Choke was legit, and Monson got someone in North-South Choke, and you said, he gooned him.
02:17:20.000
I started using that word, it was a long time ago, because think about how long north-south chokes have been legit.
02:17:25.000
But there was a while where we didn't know that a north-south choke was legit.
02:17:29.000
And Munson is such a tank, he just assumed that he gooned him.
02:17:33.000
Like, come on, man, you're just squeezing on his head.
02:17:46.000
North South choke is like all the elements of the head and arm choke, which is always my favorite, but you don't put pressure on your own neck.
02:17:53.000
Like you don't have as much pressure on your own neck.
02:17:57.000
My man is all fucked up from head and arm chokes, man.
02:18:00.000
I think Jaime Yaya actually got one in the UFC. Yes, he did.
02:18:06.000
Yeah, you don't call people a goon anymore when they do it.
02:18:27.000
It's a super effective technique, but when you said it, you were like, he gooned him.
02:18:33.000
Oh, I don't think you did either, but you said it to me.
02:18:43.000
I think you're totally right that she brought it on herself in a lot of ways.
02:18:46.000
And what makes someone excited about a guy like Floyd Mayweather pulling it off and laying those stacks of paper, if he did get KO'd, can you imagine if Manny Pacquiao landed a bombing right hook?
02:18:59.000
But meanwhile, when Manny got knocked out by Manuel Marquez, I mean, there was almost none of that.
02:19:06.000
You felt bad for him because he's a good person.
02:19:08.000
He's not mean or he doesn't have bad intentions.
02:19:21.000
For as much as she is getting kind of memed on and people messing with her and whatnot, would you say that's probably the most expensive head kick knockout anybody's ever been paid?
02:19:33.000
No one ever probably made as much money as she did.
02:19:36.000
Like, when you think about, like, she has a percentage of pay-per-view buys.
02:19:56.000
The rematch with Holly Holm will probably break records.
02:20:00.000
Well, that's why Holly's not going to fight anyone else.
02:20:04.000
But wouldn't you say that from just the injury alone, just the head kick alone, when Freddie Roach was willing to work with Pacquiao again after the Juan Manuel Marquez fight, he said, I want you to take a year off.
02:20:24.000
The other thing is the pressure from the UFC and Dana and Rhonda being so close.
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It's going to be tough for her to be like, no, I want to take a year off.
02:20:31.000
Right, but she needs a significant amount of time.
02:20:34.000
Even if it's not a year, it should be several months with no contact at all.
02:20:40.000
Now, are the people surrounding her, if they're looking out for her best interests, are they going to allow her to do that?
02:20:47.000
Someone in her corner should say, take a year off, let's just clear everything, take a year off and do your thing.
02:20:52.000
And she, with her strong will, she might think she can come back sooner than she can, right?
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And that's where your fucking people around, you should be like, no, we know you want to, this is the game plan.
02:21:02.000
Her manager should be like, here's the game plan.
02:21:05.000
She needs to take a year off, but of everything except wrestling, she should move to Iowa, buy a ranch, Just, you know what I mean?
02:21:14.000
Buy a wrench, then you gotta sell that wrench after you move.
02:21:18.000
Bring all the girlfriends out there, you know what I mean?
02:21:20.000
And wrestle, wrestle, wrestle, wrestle, wrestle.
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Go to Oklahoma for a couple months, Iowa for another couple months, Illinois, just hang out with all them wrestlers.
02:21:31.000
Or just make a shitload of movies for a year and then just do your thing.
02:21:34.000
Well, not only that, I mean, there's some good wrestling in California.
02:22:04.000
Remember when Rocky lost against Mr. T the first time they fought twice in Rocky III, and he got his ass kicked in the first one?
02:22:16.000
No, but what I'm talking about, if it's in the movie, that's how you get people excited.
02:22:31.000
He got knocked out at the 1 hour 20 minute mark.
02:22:41.000
Right now, there's still 45 minutes left in the Ronda movie.
02:22:49.000
Instead of Rocky going to the fucking mountains, she's going to go to Iowa.
02:22:54.000
Do they just write that part or do they actually show it?
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They need to fucking fill an extra chapter and download online.
02:23:13.000
This is her chance to go Rocky III on everybody.
02:23:26.000
Someone already makes odds for a fight that's not gonna happen.
02:23:38.000
So there's odds, they've established odds just to what?
02:23:47.000
Yeah, it seems to me that you can't make Holly anything but the favorite.
02:23:58.000
We saw Holly completely light her up, standing.
02:24:01.000
I knew, like, early in the first round, Ronda was in trouble.
02:24:08.000
She was so light on her feet, and she was countering so well.
02:24:12.000
I was like, unless Ronda lands a bump, she did land one good left hook, but it was right before Holly took her down.
02:24:18.000
Like, she landed one good left hook that made her sit down.
02:24:20.000
Dude, watch Holly's old boxing fights, and she eats some fucking shots from world-class boxing opponents and just keeps on keeping on.
02:24:33.000
But it's a brutal KO. It's a brutal KO through the ropes.
02:24:37.000
Dude, I had a guy in Starbucks ask me, I wanted to slap the fuck out and throw this scolding hot coffee on him.
02:24:48.000
People ask me, hey, I heard that fight was fixed.
02:24:53.000
And in this fight, you're going to outclass me on the feet, and then the second round, fucking kick my head off.
02:25:01.000
People are so dumb they shouldn't be able to talk.
02:25:03.000
There's some people that are walking amongst us that might as well be like shrews out in the forest.
02:25:10.000
They might as well be, but they live in a society where they can get a job doing some stupid...
02:25:18.000
And they go and do that, and then they get health insurance, and then they survive.
02:25:22.000
And then they fucking go to the hospital, and someone way smarter than them fixes whatever thing's wrong with them.
02:25:28.000
And they pretend like they're people, but they're not.
02:25:31.000
Dude, this guy was like mad at me because I looked at him and go, are you serious?
02:25:34.000
And he goes, dude, it's not crazy to think that.
02:25:36.000
I'm like, no, it's fucking insane to think that.
02:25:41.000
That's like, you shouldn't be able to comment on fighting if you think that that looks like a fake fight.
02:25:45.000
Like, that's like me looking at an airplane going, how's that flying, bro?
02:25:57.000
There's some weird conspiracy theory where they're like, ah, let's have Ronda lose.
02:26:00.000
No, that's the worst thing that could happen for them.
02:26:07.000
That was a perfect segue into Tower 7. You think Rocky's real, huh?
02:26:26.000
Oh, we totally understand what you're talking about.
02:26:34.000
If you look at the difference between her life just a couple of months ago and her life now, boy, after Brazil, she's on top of the fucking world, right?
02:26:43.000
She's cheered in Brazil, beats Bechco Heia by KO. The whole thing is just spectacular.
02:26:49.000
What is it, ESPN or Sports Illustrated called her the greatest female athlete ever?
02:27:01.000
She won an ESPY for Fighter of the Year, beat up Floyd Mayweather.
02:27:14.000
Kick that bitch into fucking 1997, and now here we are.
02:27:19.000
The way she did it, LaRonda was like stumbling back, and she didn't even see it coming.
02:27:25.000
Dude, every person tells me in her camp, every person goes, yeah, bro, no injuries.
02:27:31.000
Well, no, I get that, but her brain's probably pretty fucked up.
02:27:40.000
It's dangerous for the sport to pretend that that wasn't a devastating KO. Devastating KO. It's dangerous.
02:27:47.000
That's the worst head kick KO in the history of combat sports.
02:27:53.000
Cro Cop and Gonzaga, Gonzaga Cro Cop, all Cro Cop's fights in pride.
02:27:59.000
The reason why it's so big, the reason it's so big, we've never seen someone of that Haliburg knocked the fuck out like that.
02:28:06.000
We've never seen someone have that inner prime star get knocked the fuck out by head.
02:28:13.000
Yeah, that would be like if Vitor did that to Jon Jones when they fought for the title.
02:28:23.000
But when Krokop and Gonzaga fight, it was big, but Krokop was on TMZ every day.
02:28:35.000
And then when you consider the fact that she got lit up for all those hard shots in the first round.
02:28:42.000
But really, the shots that she ate to her face, and then the big head kick comes in the second round.
02:28:50.000
After missing that crazy wild left hook, Holly ducks under, looks like a ghost.
02:28:55.000
But you see interviews where everyone's like, no, her lip's fine.
02:29:13.000
But the thing about the KO is, it's not about what you're seeing on the outside.
02:29:21.000
Whatever stitches she had to have on her lip, that's all going to heal up.
02:29:31.000
The faceplant was a hammer fist, and then the hammer fist.
02:29:35.000
When's the last time you saw females get fucked up like that?
02:29:44.000
Because the way she bounces around the octagon, that's some serious force behind those legs.
02:29:48.000
Did you see Rhonda called it before on Jimmy Kimmel?
02:29:52.000
She's like, she thinks she's going to kick me in the head, but I don't think so.
02:30:00.000
You know, I think you have to live a stoic, singular existence to be a fighter at the highest level when you're fighting someone as dangerous as like a Holly Holm.
02:30:17.000
She did her media obligations, but she trained like a fucking wild beast.
02:30:29.000
And she's been in world championship fights multiple times.
02:30:36.000
If you go back to that fight podcast, the last of the fighting rebellion...
02:30:40.000
I thought that Amanda Nunes would be a more dangerous fight because she had just finished Sarah McMahon.
02:30:48.000
She fucked Kat Zingano up in that first round pretty bad.
02:30:55.000
If you look at it, we're all wrong, but if you go back and- The Raquel Pennington fight is what really threw me off.
02:31:01.000
Her previous Austin experiences and her previous fights, I was like, ah, I don't really see it.
02:31:07.000
But if you go back and look at Holly's resume, you're like, oh, fuck yeah, man.
02:31:13.000
When she was bouncing around in the octagon, too, you're like, she's got some serious movement.
02:31:19.000
There was no one that Rod had ever fought the move like that.
02:31:25.000
I mean, there's just no comparison in the movement.
02:31:27.000
No, she made Sarah McMahon look like a tortoise.
02:31:35.000
She showed exactly what she was going to do the entire time.
02:31:38.000
As she's coming in, while they're doing the name call-out, she's like, I'm going to be going left and right.
02:31:43.000
When Rhonda went to throw that left hook and she just, and Rhonda ran into the cage, she turns around like, What the fuck?
02:32:00.000
It's weird for the world to see that, but I think, like we were saying, like ultimately I think for martial arts it's good.
02:32:07.000
You have to know that you've got to have all your ducks in order, and you have to know that you've got to be able to do everything.
02:32:20.000
Otherwise, you're going to get kicked into humbleness.
02:32:22.000
But there's a lot of money in not being humble.
02:32:27.000
Conor McGregor, he talks some shit, but after the fight, he gives respect, and he's humble.
02:32:38.000
That's why everyone, these memes and all this shit's coming out.
02:32:42.000
After he's like, dude, he's a great fighter, man.
02:32:49.000
I think it's this anger that she has to fight with.
02:32:52.000
It's this hole that she's had since losing her dad.
02:33:07.000
For martial artists, though, when you watch that fight, it's such an important lesson that regardless of hype, regardless of past accomplishments, regardless of past performances that have looked spectacular, you've got to analyze all the movements.
02:33:24.000
Especially in the UFC. Like, boxing, you can start off a round of You might see a box go down four rounds, whatever, and they come back.
02:33:30.000
In the UFC, there is no, all right, I'm going to figure it out.
02:33:46.000
Pretty crazy to watch such a shift, like a changing, not just a changing of the guards, but like a...
02:33:56.000
A guy who's taken dudes that weren't that good at wrestling and now they're just taking everybody down.
02:34:06.000
They have T.J. Dillashaw there now, Neil Magny.
02:34:19.000
Brennan had a good point about her knees, though.
02:34:24.000
If you've got bad knees, you've got to pull guard down.
02:34:30.000
Like you see her jog on the sand, but she can't jump on the road and do work because it'd fuck her knees up.
02:34:34.000
Do you think she's been doing judo since she was in diapers?
02:34:41.000
Yeah, I had a buddy that I shredded knee from judo.
02:34:50.000
Well, I wonder if they could get that stem cell shit and shoot it in there.
02:34:56.000
It's gonna be very interesting times because Holly's also 34, so you gotta think like how much longer can she compete at this level?
02:35:04.000
Like without any performance-enhancing drugs, let's just be honest, right?
02:35:08.000
When you start hitting the 30s, like it starts to wane.
02:35:15.000
Yeah, like when we were kids, boxers, when they would hit like 34, 35, it was over.
02:35:20.000
You know, NFL running backs, as soon as they hit 30, game over.
02:35:36.000
After a couple knee surgeries and you're running back, that's why there's been so many scrambling quarterbacks that they come into the NFL and this one's going to scramble his way to the Super Bowl.
02:35:49.000
And their scramblers are hard like Michael Vick.
02:35:51.000
But then they get hurt once, they get hurt twice, and now they can't scramble.
02:35:58.000
What's going to be interesting to see in the UFC after...
02:36:10.000
What happens to women's MMA? Because you can paint it how you want, but there's no...
02:36:23.000
You can't have Paige as a main event on a pay-per-view.
02:36:36.000
Paige doesn't have the kind of skills that Ronda has yet.
02:36:41.000
She might be able to develop those because she's really young and she's only been fighting for a short amount of time.
02:36:57.000
I'm just saying, right now, if Ronda dips out, Holly Holm vs.
02:37:06.000
There's no other girl right now who could carry a pay-per-view card.
02:37:12.000
I think Holly can carry a card right now if she can.
02:37:30.000
Yeah, but it's a main event, but does the general public know who Cyborg is?
02:37:37.000
They just roll out the marketing machine, boom, they got so much power.
02:37:40.000
They could blow Cyborg the fuck out of the wall.
02:37:44.000
If you want to go deep with the marketing, do you mention the fact that Cyborg's tested positive for Cyborg?
02:38:01.000
But with her looks, with her looks, and it's like, what the fuck?
02:38:05.000
They're gonna be like, what the fuck are we doing?
02:38:18.000
I mean, would I pay for that weather girl to get in the outgun?
02:38:25.000
I'm just saying, what Rhonda did for the sport, there's no one even close.
02:38:29.000
Right now, every other girl would come right now.
02:38:31.000
When you go to like Cyborg footage, what was amazing about Cyborg when she beat Gina was how terrifying she was.
02:38:51.000
Now, if you add that to, like, accusations and you show the positive test results.
02:39:03.000
Serena Williams with six months of sprawl training.
02:39:10.000
Serena Williams with six months of sprawl training.
02:39:17.000
Can you imagine how fast that girl could explode?
02:39:20.000
Think about how she explodes off the line to tennis.
02:39:40.000
I'm just saying, women's MMA, if Ronda pieces out, has a long ways to go.
02:39:46.000
If Cyborg's your champ, it kills women's MMA for a little bit.
02:39:49.000
And Holly doesn't have the personality to carry the torch like Ronda does.
02:39:53.000
I think she has that Ronda Couture personality.
02:39:57.000
There's room for that great American good girl that everyone's going to be behind, who's the best striker in women's MMA. Chris Wyman's that guy.
02:40:05.000
Then why is Yeah, but Chris Weidman didn't knock out Ronda Rousey.
02:40:10.000
If there was some male version of Ronda Rousey that was like, fuck the world, you know, some like Junie Browning type character that became a world champion.
02:40:28.000
Brash, like aggressive, but they would have to be really good too.
02:40:40.000
Like if he knocked out and just flattened Jon Jones, Chris Weidman would be fucking king of the world.
02:40:49.000
What's interesting is, like I said, he's like 190 something now.
02:40:58.000
Well, that fight might not happen because John's getting bigger and Chris is getting smaller.
02:41:07.000
I want to see those pictures of him at 190, man.
02:41:10.000
He's got to be really skinny for 190. Yeah, I would imagine.
02:41:22.000
And like Jon Jones, grew up with his brother beating the fuck out of him.
02:41:29.000
You're in competition in the house all the time.
02:41:32.000
I was, my record against my brother, I was one out of 3,000.
02:41:40.000
We had to go to anger management, it got so bad.
02:41:44.000
That's funny, because you're so tight now, it's funny.
02:41:51.000
It's like Matt Hughes and his brother used to look the same, they looked exactly like each other, and they would beat the fuck out of each other.
02:42:01.000
One's one of the best players in the NFL. Just the three of them beating each other up.
02:42:10.000
In a summer vacation, I was the remote control.
02:42:24.000
It's going to suck if you beat your brother up and your brother becomes a martial arts champion.
02:42:42.000
He used to sock me ten times in the shoulder for every time I'd fart.
02:42:46.000
He could fart any time he wanted, but if I farted, I'd have to take socks to the shoulder.
02:42:56.000
Eddie liked the punishment, so he's farting on purpose.
02:43:20.000
He's actually extremely passive on a physical level, but he was into politics and whatnot.
02:43:34.000
So on a political and verbal level, he was always the guy that would sit there and run his mouth and I would get angry and emotional and punch him.
02:43:50.000
But I definitely had my older brother do karate and then try damn spinning back kicks on me and fucking random shit.
02:44:16.000
Like, John Jones, right, grows up with two super-athlete brothers.
02:44:19.000
All three of them beat the fuck out of each other.
02:44:25.000
Isn't that interesting how that works like that?
02:44:32.000
I shouldn't talk on this, because I don't know, but I know he had...
02:44:47.000
They seem like they bang chicks together growing up.
02:45:20.000
That's a T.J. Dillashaw fight with Hennem, not Hennem Burrell.
02:45:33.000
I'm curious to see how, I'd show up Dominic makes it to the fight.
02:45:48.000
Because, you know, beating Hennem Burrell, the U.S. really didn't know who he was.
02:45:53.000
But Dominic Cruz, granted, he's been out of the limelight.
02:45:57.000
And goddamn, how good did Dominic Cruz look in that Mitsugaki fight?
02:46:01.000
I wish I hadn't seen him fight him forever after that.
02:46:29.000
Look at that sexy bitch that Patrick Cote is fighting.
02:46:38.000
Everyone keeps saying it could be a pay-per-view, man.
02:47:10.000
It's because they made it a world title fight, so they decided to have a really strong undercard to back it.
02:47:23.000
Not last minute, obviously, because it's not until January.
02:47:26.000
But fairly last minute, they asked me to do it.
02:47:32.000
I'm not even going to be there for the weigh-ins.
02:47:33.000
I won't get there until Saturday morning or Sunday morning.
02:47:39.000
It might be like after a football game or some shit.
02:48:04.000
It's going to be interesting to see who's got better footwork and movement.
02:48:31.000
You're gonna come back and boom, you're not gonna get in trouble with the wife or anything?
02:48:42.000
Yeah, and you could also, if you're not going to be there, you could watch it on pay-per-view.
02:48:46.000
Yeah, budovideos.com slash EBI5, Sunday, December 13th.
02:48:57.000
It really changes grappling by adding that element of putting them in bad positions after it's over.
02:49:07.000
So far, the first four shows have just gotten tremendous reviews.
02:49:11.000
You know, it's kind of hard to have a bad show.
02:49:14.000
I mean, it could happen, but when you have 16 black belts, and it's a tournament, and you see, it's like UFC 2. Yeah, yeah.
02:49:25.000
Everyone's fucking worried about his leg locks and he's right there gonna fucking chainsaw his way to the finals?
02:49:31.000
Probably, you know, but he's got to get through Javi, Hani, and then, you know, there's Rafael Domingos.
02:49:49.000
Man, and then Kim Terra, Kyle Terra's brother's in it.
02:49:59.000
BudoVideos.com slash EBI5. And the first four are available at YouTube.
02:50:15.000
That usually doesn't happen at 145. All the money goes to the winner.
02:50:24.000
And about a month later, a month and a half, two months later, I put it on YouTube and let everyone watch it.
02:50:29.000
So VIP Front Row is available, reserved in general admission.
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Like I said, If you're in town, and you're free that day, you really should go and see it live.
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Especially if you're a fan of jiu-jitsu at all, you'll see the most exciting format of jiu-jitsu.
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And when these fights go to a draw, and then they put them in bad positions at the end, it gets fucking nuts.
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Rio de Janeiro Trials for that in February and then Sao Paulo.
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One of the guys that's co-producing this from Tel Avisa, which is a huge network in Latin America.
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Next time we talk it'll be post post Aldo and McGregor and Weidman and Rockhold and Yoel Romero and Jacare and Max Holloway and Jeremy Stephens and Damian Maia and Gunnar Nelson.
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Alright, Ben Saunders MMA. Ben will be fighting on the January card on Fox Sports 1 against the lovely and talented Pat Cote.
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Brendan Schaub, you might know him as the fighter from the Fighter and the Kid podcast, storming through the ranks of iTunes, kicking ass all over the world for their live shows.
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Be there, he'll sing Big Dick Bandits while looking deep into your eyes.
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Lots of different t-shirts that Chael Sonny keeps jacking.
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That's how you know you're doing something right.