The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion

00:00:05.000 Boom!

00:00:05.000 And we're live, ladies and gentlemen, with special guest, little Jimmy Norton.

00:00:10.000 Thank you.

00:00:10.000 Little Jimmy, I didn't think he was going to be here.

00:00:12.000 This is a total surprise.

00:00:13.000 This is awesome.

00:00:14.000 Yeah, I'm shooting something tomorrow, and I wanted to watch the fight, so I'm like, I didn't think you'd be in town.

00:00:19.000 You're always off, like, every time I call, he's like, ah, he's away, he's hunting, he's unreachable.

00:00:23.000 And I'm just happy that you got back to me.

00:00:25.000 Yeah, dude, it was perfect timing.

00:00:26.000 You know, we had decided a while ago...

00:00:29.000 Well, I was supposed to be out of town, too.

00:00:31.000 And then decided to come back and make it back in time for this.

00:00:36.000 I'm like, wow, we should definitely do a fight companion.

00:00:38.000 So we decided to.

00:00:39.000 But Eddie was available.

00:00:42.000 Luckily.

00:00:44.000 Should we be watching the UFC right now?

00:00:46.000 Yeah, we are gonna watch two different things at the same time, folks.

00:00:49.000 This should be fucking complete chaos.

00:00:51.000 The deal is that the Canelo Alvarez fight is supposed to start at 8 o'clock.

00:00:56.000 That's what they've been pushing.

00:00:57.000 And I think they're doing that because they're trying to get a lot of people on the East Coast to buy it.

00:01:01.000 Because after 11 p.m., you're like, Jesus Christ, I want to go to sleep.

00:01:05.000 You know, because they were doing them a lot of times at like 9 p.m., 9.30.

00:01:09.000 It's fucking midnight, New York.

00:01:10.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:01:11.000 You're tired.

00:01:12.000 It's a Saturday, people can do it, but it's tough when it goes out at 11, 12 o'clock at night.

00:01:17.000 It's not wise, especially with boxing, because boxing has weak undercards.

00:01:23.000 I'm not necessarily saying that this is a weak fight, but even if they have a good undercard, what do they have, like two fights, right?

00:01:29.000 I mean, how many fights do they have?

00:01:30.000 You don't want to see more than that.

00:01:32.000 No.

00:01:32.000 On like a pay-per-view?

00:01:33.000 The worst part is when you watch one of these fights on the East Coast, by the time you get out the arena, get your car, you have time for one drink maybe, and then they shut down bars.

00:01:42.000 Well, the good thing is in the East Coast, they shut down bars at four.

00:01:46.000 Yeah, New York's four.

00:01:46.000 Out here, you can go back to your hotel room, take a shower, take a little power nap, and then you're ready to go to the after party, right?

00:01:52.000 Yeah, it's over at like 10-ish.

00:01:53.000 It's way better on the West Coast.

00:01:54.000 Yeah, it's way better.

00:01:55.000 I never watch boxing anymore either.

00:01:56.000 I watch Conor and Floyd just to watch it, but I never watch...

00:02:00.000 I think I watched the last Triple G fight.

00:02:02.000 That's it.

00:02:02.000 I watch all of his fights, and I watch all Canelo's fights.

00:02:06.000 And you know what's weird?

00:02:07.000 When you're watching a guy start to slow down, like I watched Miguel Cotto's fight, and he won.

00:02:13.000 But he's getting hit more than he used to get hit.

00:02:15.000 He's like 36 now.

00:02:17.000 I don't think they have UFC-style testing, though.

00:02:20.000 They don't have USADA. They don't have a Jeff Nowitzki.

00:02:22.000 So these guys can get away with a lot more.

00:02:25.000 It's a little slippery.

00:02:27.000 I don't think they do steroids in boxing.

00:02:30.000 That's hilarious.

00:02:33.000 It's illegal.

00:02:34.000 Dude, you know what you gotta say?

00:02:36.000 Icarus?

00:02:36.000 I don't know how to say it.

00:02:37.000 Is it Icarus or Icarus?

00:02:39.000 I would say Icarus.

00:02:39.000 I see a...

00:02:40.000 Oh, you are?

00:02:40.000 Yeah, but I would say that.

00:02:42.000 It's one of those words that I've only read.

00:02:43.000 Is it a documentary?

00:02:44.000 It's fucking amazing.

00:02:45.000 And it's all on this Russian doctor that was like one of the top guys over there for steroids and how much shit they can give you and you still test negative.

00:02:54.000 Holy fuck!

00:02:56.000 These guys are wizards.

00:02:59.000 They take this guy, who's the main person in the documentary, and they just pump him full of steroids.

00:03:05.000 He's like, I want you to have a full cc of this and five of that.

00:03:08.000 And he's shooting like six, seven things in his ass.

00:03:10.000 So they're filming an experiment?

00:03:12.000 Yes.

00:03:12.000 Oh, okay.

00:03:13.000 They're filming an experiment with this Russian guy who's responding.

00:03:16.000 One of the things they said was that out of the Russian athletes, there was some estimate in the high 90s of percentage of people that are on steroids.

00:03:22.000 Who wasn't on steroids?

00:03:24.000 Well, still, to this day.

00:03:26.000 In Rio, the Olympics were thinking about banning the entire Russian team.

00:03:31.000 Their anti-doping program is so sophisticated and so state-sanctioned.

00:03:36.000 Well, can they pass USADA testing, though?

00:03:38.000 Could they pass that level?

00:03:39.000 No!

00:03:40.000 I mean, it depends.

00:03:42.000 See, the USADA thing, they'll show up at your fucking house.

00:03:45.000 You know, like you have to give your whereabouts at all times.

00:03:48.000 They will catch you.

00:03:50.000 And the other thing is, they keep your piss and they keep your blood.

00:03:53.000 And they keep it for a long time.

00:03:55.000 I think like seven or eight years.

00:03:57.000 And they actually just busted a guy who won the Olympics, I think in, I want to say 2008 and 2012 or something like that.

00:04:04.000 But I think it was two guys.

00:04:06.000 I don't know.

00:04:07.000 Maybe Jamie could find it.

00:04:08.000 But they took away their gold medals, these Russian wrestlers.

00:04:12.000 They busted them eight years later?

00:04:14.000 Way later.

00:04:15.000 They didn't have a test for whatever they were doing.

00:04:17.000 So that's what happens.

00:04:18.000 These guys are one step ahead, but then the tests catch up.

00:04:22.000 You know, and then they find stuff in them.

00:04:23.000 They retroactively go and grab your shit from years ago.

00:04:26.000 It's like when they save somebody's head like Ted Williams, hoping they can find a cure for whatever he died from and bring him back.

00:04:31.000 That's why they freeze your body or freeze your head.

00:04:33.000 Right.

00:04:33.000 That's so crazy.

00:04:34.000 The freezing the head thing is so bananas.

00:04:36.000 You're like, well, listen, for five dollars more, we can keep your body.

00:04:40.000 No, dude, you know, I'm taking a chance as it is.

00:04:43.000 Let's just go with the head.

00:04:44.000 Just the head, yeah.

00:04:45.000 Just the idea that they're going to just keep your head frozen.

00:04:50.000 They don't wake you up amongst the first people.

00:04:54.000 You get woke up after they figure out how to reattach heads to bodies.

00:04:57.000 You get woken up way later.

00:05:00.000 When they figure out just how to reanimate dead bodies, that won't be that big of a deal.

00:05:05.000 But then to attach heads on a new body, that's a couple more decades.

00:05:09.000 Unless you talk to Ray Kurzweil, he thinks we're going to have that in 15 years, his very wishful timeline.

00:05:14.000 Is it possible to be such a famous fighter, you're rubbing shoulders with the powerful, the elite, you're so famous.

00:05:21.000 Is it possible for a fighter to have so much fame that he has connections to the people that are testing for steroids?

00:05:31.000 He would never get busted.

00:05:33.000 It's totally possible.

00:05:35.000 Is that possible?

00:05:36.000 It's totally possible, but it's just super unlikely.

00:05:38.000 Because there's too many pieces involved.

00:05:40.000 Too many people would know.

00:05:42.000 And also, there's no benefit to them.

00:05:44.000 They would have to be getting paid shit tons of money.

00:05:46.000 It's just so sneaky.

00:05:48.000 What if someone dies?

00:05:51.000 What if someone gets a shit beat out of them and winds up dying?

00:05:54.000 And it turns out that these people got a hold of some money, and that's what allowed them to not do drug tests on this guy, and this guy was on juice, and then he goes in and beats someone to death?

00:06:05.000 It's kind of hard to keep anything electronically a secret.

00:06:07.000 I mean, the head of the CIA couldn't make a fucking email disappear.

00:06:11.000 Look at this.

00:06:11.000 The Russians refuse to return stripped Olympic medals.

00:06:14.000 It doesn't matter if anything gets out, no one goes to jail.

00:06:17.000 Hillary's not in jail.

00:06:18.000 He stepped down, though.

00:06:19.000 He had to step down because he was having...

00:06:20.000 What were you saying, Jim?

00:06:21.000 I missed it.

00:06:22.000 I was reading the Russian thing.

00:06:23.000 I was saying, electronically, nothing's a secret anymore.

00:06:26.000 What was his name?

00:06:27.000 The head of the CIA who was cheating and he got busted in that stupid email?

00:06:30.000 Yeah.

00:06:31.000 Well, what?

00:06:31.000 Yeah.

00:06:33.000 Petraeus.

00:06:33.000 Petraeus, yeah.

00:06:34.000 And he was, you know, a war hero.

00:06:36.000 Yeah, he ran the theater.

00:06:39.000 Do you know the story behind him, though?

00:06:41.000 How he got caught?

00:06:43.000 I think they were investigating someone else, right?

00:06:45.000 No, he was hooking up with a chick.

00:06:47.000 And the chick was a little mouthy.

00:06:49.000 Didn't she write his book, his biographer?

00:06:52.000 I think...

00:06:53.000 There was her, and I think there was another one.

00:06:56.000 And the other one, what might have been a part of some freaky marriage situation where the husband and wife bang other people or something.

00:07:02.000 It got heavy enough where it was weird.

00:07:05.000 Yeah.

00:07:05.000 And one of the ways they got Petraeus out of there was through some sort of adultery clause, which is hilarious.

00:07:12.000 Yeah, it's like a morals clause, right?

00:07:13.000 This guy is one of the best killers in the military.

00:07:17.000 And you're telling them, if you bang other chicks, we won't let you kill people.

00:07:20.000 I mean, this is all information that's coming from the mainstream media.

00:07:23.000 Like, who knows what really happened?

00:07:25.000 Oh, those guys tell the truth.

00:07:26.000 Who knows what's going on?

00:07:27.000 Yeah, who knows what that is?

00:07:29.000 Why they made him do that.

00:07:31.000 Like, what pieces might have fallen into play, Frank Underwood style, that allowed that to happen.

00:07:37.000 Well, who did he piss off?

00:07:38.000 It's like Eliot Spitzer pissed somebody off ten years ago, and they went in digging, and they got him.

00:07:43.000 Well, Spitzer went after the banks.

00:07:45.000 It's really a shame about Spitzer, because in any other era, Eliot Spitzer would have been probably like a big-time hero, like some sort of a clean-em-up cop type of guy who's looking out for the good guy.

00:07:58.000 The problem is there was some serious hypocrisy, because it turns out that he was actually targeting brothels as well as visiting them, which is just, yeah, man, you can't do that.

00:08:10.000 It's one thing if he just got hookers, but the fact that the guy was arresting all those He was going out of his way for it.

00:08:16.000 He was a real douche.

00:08:17.000 And that's why I love to see these guys who legislate against gay people get busted in restrooms and stuff because you're actively trying to fuck somebody's life.

00:08:23.000 For sure.

00:08:24.000 And it's always those people.

00:08:25.000 It's always those people that care so much.

00:08:27.000 They get angry at gay people.

00:08:29.000 It's just such a classic story.

00:08:31.000 They've been hiding their whole life that they overdo it just so that no one sniffs them out.

00:08:37.000 It's such a classic cliche that you see it and you're like, oh god.

00:08:41.000 So obvious.

00:08:43.000 HBO did a great documentary on politicians who were outed, like, who were anti-gay but got outed as being gay.

00:08:48.000 You know what it's like?

00:08:49.000 It's like that really scrawny type of male feminist that's always, like, sticking up for women and saying, like, of course you are.

00:08:57.000 It's such a cliché.

00:08:59.000 It's almost the same cliché as the gay guy that hates gay marriage and hates gay people because he's trying to cover it up.

00:09:06.000 It's usually these guys that are overwhelmed with lust.

00:09:09.000 The women seem so...

00:09:12.000 Impossible to to get with that they they morph themselves into this like Semi real human being that only looks out for women's issues all the time 24 7 doesn't see anything wrong with women ever You know that guy where it's like you're not even real anymore Yeah,

00:09:30.000 it gets you to put on, because then you're fucking allowed to walk among them and be comfortable.

00:09:35.000 Yeah.

00:09:35.000 And they trust you.

00:09:36.000 And they call you an ally.

00:09:38.000 Yeah.

00:09:38.000 You're an ally.

00:09:39.000 Yeah, and they fuck the allies.

00:09:40.000 So everyone wants to be an ally.

00:09:41.000 Of course.

00:09:42.000 Let's watch the UFC. Ah, Eddie Brown doesn't like boxing.

00:09:46.000 But look, man, they keep punching each other.

00:09:49.000 It is interesting how it becomes way less interesting, right?

00:09:53.000 Yeah, I just can't watch it anymore.

00:09:55.000 Well, I watched Mayweather vs.

00:09:58.000 Conor.

00:09:58.000 I thought that was interesting.

00:09:59.000 I was in Iceland for that.

00:10:01.000 It was like 5 o'clock in the morning.

00:10:02.000 It was in a bar.

00:10:03.000 And it was fun to watch because, again, I wanted to see if Conor would do okay, but Mayweather against anybody else I have no interest in.

00:10:08.000 Yes, that was lots of fun.

00:10:10.000 That was lots of fun.

00:10:11.000 Dude, I like watching that guy fight, period.

00:10:13.000 I'm always...

00:10:14.000 I watch Mayweather even if it's a boring-ass fight.

00:10:16.000 Because what you're watching is some guy that just can do things that other people are not able to do.

00:10:21.000 Yeah, he's great.

00:10:22.000 He's one step ahead.

00:10:23.000 I just don't enjoy him.

00:10:24.000 I watched the Pacquiao fight and I was like, ugh, what am I fucking doing here?

00:10:28.000 Yeah, you can't remember one round from the next.

00:10:31.000 They all look exactly the same.

00:10:32.000 What channel on...

00:10:33.000 219. 219, thank you, sir.

00:10:37.000 So what we're going to do, folks, is just go back and forth from the fight.

00:10:41.000 So you're a totally hardcore MMA fan, would you consider yourself?

00:10:46.000 I love it.

00:10:46.000 He does a podcast.

00:10:46.000 Yeah, I mean, me and Matt do the UFC podcast.

00:10:49.000 That's right!

00:10:50.000 But I'm on it.

00:10:51.000 I'm a fan.

00:10:52.000 Matt's like the expert, and I'm like the guy who can...

00:10:55.000 Do the more human side interviews.

00:10:56.000 Every UFC, you're going to try to watch.

00:10:58.000 Unless you've got something going on, right?

00:11:00.000 I watch most of them.

00:11:00.000 I usually watch them the next day on the Fight Pass, because I'm usually doing gigs Saturday night.

00:11:06.000 Dude, Matt is great.

00:11:07.000 I love Matt, dude.

00:11:07.000 He's such a great guy.

00:11:09.000 He is.

00:11:09.000 Matt took Eddie and I into his gym in like...

00:11:14.000 2001 or some shit.

00:11:16.000 Remember that?

00:11:17.000 He took us to his gym.

00:11:18.000 He picked us up at the train station.

00:11:20.000 We took to training in Long Island.

00:11:21.000 He picked us up in the train station, took it to his gym, showed us his apartment in the basement where he used to pee in a jug because he drank so much water.

00:11:29.000 He couldn't get out of bed because he needed to sleep because he was fighting.

00:11:32.000 So he would just carry a jug and put it right by the bed and just piss in the jug in the middle of the night.

00:11:36.000 It was hilarious.

00:11:37.000 Matt Serra is awesome.

00:11:39.000 I love that guy.

00:11:40.000 He's such a real guy.

00:11:41.000 He's exactly that guy all the time.

00:11:42.000 He's great.

00:11:44.000 He's great.

00:11:45.000 What a great move it is to have him on that Dana White Looking for a Fight show and to have him on your podcast.

00:11:50.000 Well, he was on the podcast first, and I think that they asked him a couple of people, and when Dana brought up my name, he's like, yeah, I would love to, because we got along well.

00:11:58.000 So it's a fun dynamic.

00:11:59.000 It is fun.

00:12:01.000 And you guys got gelled with each other.

00:12:04.000 You know, you gel.

00:12:05.000 Yeah, it's silly.

00:12:06.000 Yeah, but you can see, it's like, you guys are friends.

00:12:08.000 It's fun.

00:12:09.000 That's like a big thing, man.

00:12:11.000 I think people underestimate that.

00:12:13.000 It's one of the reasons why these TV shows sometimes are so stale and flat.

00:12:16.000 They're stiff, yeah.

00:12:17.000 Well, they don't like each other.

00:12:18.000 They're not friends with each other.

00:12:19.000 You know?

00:12:20.000 Like, people like when they see people who actually, like Goldberg and I, like when we used to do broadcasts together, Goldberg's my friend.

00:12:27.000 Yeah.

00:12:28.000 Like, I really like that guy.

00:12:30.000 And John Anik, same thing.

00:12:31.000 Anik's my friend.

00:12:32.000 Dominic Cruz is my friend.

00:12:33.000 Like, I hang out with that guy.

00:12:35.000 He's interesting.

00:12:36.000 Paul Felder.

00:12:36.000 Like, I could hang out with these guys.

00:12:38.000 That's big, man.

00:12:39.000 Yeah.

00:12:39.000 You know, that's why people like these kind of podcasts, that's why people like, you know, anything where people get together and they can hang out and you feel like a real camaraderie versus, like, entertainment tonight.

00:12:51.000 Thor is back!

00:12:51.000 And boy, is he angry!

00:12:54.000 Yes, he is, Mike!

00:12:55.000 Thor is back!

00:12:56.000 And the newest, most amazing version of Thor!

00:12:59.000 Let's take a look!

00:13:00.000 Like, those people don't...

00:13:01.000 Even if they are friends, you can't tell.

00:13:04.000 Yeah, it's unwatchable and it's unlistenable and it doesn't feel...

00:13:07.000 It feels like nothing you can connect to.

00:13:09.000 I don't know anybody I speak to like that.

00:13:10.000 Exactly.

00:13:11.000 No one's going to tell each other to shut up on that show?

00:13:13.000 I wonder if with Wonder Woman now at the forefront of sports and technology and...

00:13:21.000 Shut the fuck up.

00:13:22.000 Yeah.

00:13:23.000 It's annoying.

00:13:24.000 They have like these pre-scheduled promos that they do that feel so stale and everything's just stale.

00:13:31.000 That's why even on TV I go back and watch old Dick Cavett shit like interviewing Bishop Pryor in 1985. I'd rather hear a real conversation with dead moments than like a late night TV show now where everybody thinks they're on fire every time the cameras are on.

00:13:43.000 It's terrible.

00:13:44.000 It's most of them these like entertainment shows like shows on entertainment like poof that's hard to get right.

00:13:50.000 Well, it used to be that the networks had all the power and there wasn't ever a content problem.

00:13:57.000 It wasn't like, damn, we need content.

00:13:59.000 There was slots.

00:14:00.000 There's Thursday 8.30, Thursday 9 o'clock.

00:14:03.000 There's just those slots.

00:14:04.000 That's it.

00:14:05.000 We got plenty of motherfuckers trying to make pilots.

00:14:08.000 That's never a problem with content.

00:14:10.000 Now...

00:14:11.000 It's the opposite.

00:14:12.000 Now they need content, so more people can get their shit out now.

00:14:16.000 It used to be totally controlled.

00:14:18.000 TV has always sucked.

00:14:20.000 You can't watch 80...

00:14:21.000 We watch TV shows that we grew up on because we had no choice.

00:14:25.000 I would watch TV going, okay, what's the best of these terrible shows?

00:14:29.000 I'll just watch that.

00:14:30.000 You're like, fuck it.

00:14:31.000 Back to Channel 11. You used to think some of them were good back then, too, right?

00:14:35.000 Like The Fall Guy.

00:14:37.000 I used to look forward to The Fall Guy.

00:14:38.000 Watch it now.

00:14:39.000 Watch The Fall Guy now.

00:14:40.000 It probably doesn't hold up.

00:14:41.000 TV didn't have to be good.

00:14:44.000 You're right.

00:14:45.000 They had all the control.

00:14:46.000 Now, shit.

00:14:47.000 It has to be good.

00:14:48.000 And now you need content.

00:14:50.000 The six million dollar band.

00:14:50.000 It's a whole different world.

00:14:52.000 That holds up.

00:14:52.000 The Sasquatch episode where we fought the Bigfoot.

00:14:55.000 Douchiest thing ever on television.

00:14:56.000 I couldn't wait to watch that.

00:14:57.000 Oh, this is a good fight.

00:14:59.000 Kamaru Usman and Sergio Moraes.

00:15:01.000 This is a great fucking fight.

00:15:03.000 Kamaru Usman is a stud wrestler.

00:15:06.000 Fucking serious athlete.

00:15:08.000 And Moraes is one of the best jujitsu guys in MMA today.

00:15:12.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:15:12.000 Tapped out Crohn Gracie in his first black belt match.

00:15:15.000 He's legit.

00:15:17.000 He's the guy that set up that mounted triangle, right?

00:15:20.000 Nice and slow?

00:15:21.000 Yeah.

00:15:21.000 You know what he said once about one of his opponents?

00:15:23.000 He said, it would be more likely that he got me pregnant than submit me.

00:15:31.000 He was talking about improvements in his striking.

00:15:33.000 He's like, in striking, I think I have the advantage.

00:15:35.000 And on the ground, it would be more likely that he got me pregnant than that he submit me.

00:15:40.000 That's how badass that motherfucker is.

00:15:42.000 But Kamaru Usman is a stud.

00:15:45.000 He is super legit.

00:15:47.000 Fantastic wrestler with really good striking.

00:15:50.000 Very strong guy.

00:15:52.000 Very dangerous.

00:15:53.000 Could be future superstar world champion guy.

00:15:56.000 He seems like the type of guy you have to take out.

00:15:58.000 Like, I guess, Leon Edwards is like, Edwards is actually doing really well against him, it seemed like, in the first round.

00:16:02.000 Yeah.

00:16:02.000 And then, like, you know, once he had him on the ground, he was finished.

00:16:05.000 He's a savage.

00:16:06.000 He's so good.

00:16:07.000 Well, how does he finish people?

00:16:07.000 What do you got to watch out for?

00:16:08.000 Smashes him.

00:16:09.000 Ground and pound.

00:16:10.000 Vicious wrestler.

00:16:11.000 He can do everything, man.

00:16:12.000 He can submit guys.

00:16:13.000 He's good at jiu-jitsu, too?

00:16:14.000 You know, he's a super stud wrestler, but he absolutely can do all that stuff.

00:16:18.000 What are his best submissions?

00:16:19.000 He's an American top team guy.

00:16:21.000 So he's like a black belt in jiu-jitsu?

00:16:23.000 No, I wonder what he is in jiu-jitsu.

00:16:25.000 I wonder like if he's ranked, but you know like there's a lot of guys that aren't ranked like Michael Chiesa.

00:16:29.000 Michael Chiesa in my mind is like a black belt, but he's not even ranked.

00:16:33.000 Should that fight have been stopped you think?

00:16:35.000 No, definitely not.

00:16:37.000 Never.

00:16:37.000 You don't stop chokes.

00:16:39.000 Why would you stop a choke?

00:16:40.000 You let a guy go to sleep.

00:16:41.000 So his objection was fair.

00:16:42.000 If the guy's unconscious, he was clearly not unconscious.

00:16:45.000 Guys get out of shit.

00:16:46.000 You got to give him an opportunity to get out of shit.

00:16:48.000 His arms were like this, man.

00:16:50.000 You're right.

00:16:51.000 Yamasaki stopped it because he knows the next move.

00:16:54.000 Yamasaki stopped it early.

00:16:56.000 Yes.

00:16:56.000 He should have let him go out.

00:16:58.000 Yes.

00:16:58.000 But 100%, Yamasaki, everybody, any black belt knows when a guy's about to go out.

00:17:05.000 Before he goes out, his hands go like this.

00:17:08.000 And that's what happens.

00:17:09.000 And a lot of times, if you let go of the choke, you pop right back up and say you're all right.

00:17:13.000 You're totally correct.

00:17:14.000 But he should have let him go to sleep.

00:17:16.000 Should have let him go to sleep.

00:17:16.000 And here's the other thing.

00:17:17.000 This is absolutely possible, too.

00:17:19.000 Some guys, when they're getting choked, they will concentrate just on their neck, and they will tighten up their neck.

00:17:24.000 And they won't do this and fight around with it.

00:17:26.000 They will literally put all their energy and concentration on their neck and avoiding the choke by just squeezing and holding on their neck if they think they have a little bit of blood flow.

00:17:34.000 If they can force a little bit of blood flow, and they think that they can stay conscious longer than the guy can squeeze.

00:17:39.000 I don't buy it for the long haul.

00:17:42.000 I think on the long haul, a guy like...

00:17:45.000 You know, someone's a really good fighter, like a Damien Maia guy, he's gonna fucking put you to sleep.

00:17:50.000 You can't do that on him.

00:17:51.000 Right.

00:17:52.000 The question is, can he do it on Kevin Lee?

00:17:55.000 Kevin Lee is really good on fact, though.

00:17:57.000 He's very good.

00:17:57.000 Even when you're tightening your neck.

00:18:00.000 Yeah, but he's not limp if he's doing this.

00:18:02.000 His arms are here, right?

00:18:04.000 So if he's concentrating on his neck and his arms are here, if he really does decide to stop doing this and just try to just concentrate on his neck, it's not a good strategy, but it might be something you would use if you thought you were fucked.

00:18:17.000 If you thought you were fucked, you're in a really bad spot, and you really can't peel his arms off, and you go, you know what, I might be able to just power through.

00:18:23.000 And he might not.

00:18:24.000 He might have had a tap, or he might have went to sleep.

00:18:26.000 Or he might have gotten out.

00:18:27.000 We don't fucking know.

00:18:28.000 Right.

00:18:29.000 Because guys have gotten out of some crazy shit.

00:18:31.000 In fact, earlier that night- There was a woman who got out, right?

00:18:33.000 Yes!

00:18:34.000 She looked like she was gone!

00:18:36.000 Who was she?

00:18:37.000 Fuck, I forget that fight.

00:18:38.000 What was that fight?

00:18:39.000 Find out what the card was on the Kevin Lee-Michael Chiesa fight.

00:18:45.000 But the point is, it's not dangerous.

00:18:48.000 It's not like an arm bar or taking punishment on the ground.

00:18:51.000 Like when someone takes a couple extra shots on the ground that aren't necessary, that's bad.

00:18:56.000 But if someone gets choked out, that's not bad.

00:18:58.000 It's not bad.

00:18:59.000 You gotta let them get choked out.

00:19:00.000 You're not preventing any damage.

00:19:03.000 Glenn who just did just that fight that should have been stopped on the I want to say was one of the prelims to Gavin Tucker.

00:19:09.000 Yeah Gavin Glenn against Rick Glenn.

00:19:11.000 That was bad.

00:19:12.000 I saw Dana tweeting.

00:19:14.000 I hadn't seen the fight yet.

00:19:15.000 He's like this referee suck and then when I watch the fight like this must have been the fight he was talking about.

00:19:18.000 Well, you know what the thing is, is that it was a slow beating.

00:19:21.000 Rick was giving him a slow beating.

00:19:23.000 He just kept beating him up.

00:19:24.000 There was no giant big bombs, but it was an accumulation of bombs that never ended.

00:19:29.000 He was so workmanlike and professional.

00:19:32.000 It was a very, very impressive victory.

00:19:33.000 Is that why he didn't get...

00:19:34.000 I thought he should have got a fight of the night or a performance of the night.

00:19:37.000 I mean, I thought that was pretty amazing, and he didn't get anything for that.

00:19:40.000 Which were the girls that almost choked the shit out of each other?

00:19:43.000 Was it Felice Herrig and Justine Cush?

00:19:45.000 Yes, it was.

00:19:46.000 Justine Kish and Felice Herrig.

00:19:48.000 Is that the fight where she shit or no?

00:19:49.000 Who won that?

00:19:51.000 I believe Felice did, right?

00:19:52.000 When did that happen?

00:19:53.000 Yeah, Felice won the unanimous decision.

00:19:54.000 Last week?

00:19:55.000 No, that was a couple months ago.

00:19:58.000 Was that the fight that Kish had that she shit?

00:20:03.000 Allegedly shit herself.

00:20:04.000 Oh, whatever happened, yeah.

00:20:06.000 I don't know if she did or not.

00:20:08.000 Supposedly that can be grounds to stop a fight now.

00:20:11.000 Yes.

00:20:12.000 It's like in the rules.

00:20:13.000 Like if you shit yourself, it's too dangerous because there's all like scratches and shit.

00:20:17.000 Yeah.

00:20:17.000 If you have cuts, you can get like the worst staph infection known to man.

00:20:21.000 And plus you may make a move to avoid being put in that that's going to put you in other kind of danger.

00:20:24.000 Like if you want your face mushed in that, you may do something to put your neck in jeopardy.

00:20:27.000 That's a very good point.

00:20:28.000 If someone's going 69 on you, if you're in like north-south position, which is a legit position, and this dude just shit himself, that's super rude.

00:20:35.000 Yeah, yeah, it's a bad place to be.

00:20:37.000 But hey, man, it's life and death in there.

00:20:40.000 Kamaru Usman, here we go.

00:20:41.000 Look at that.

00:20:43.000 This is a good fucking fight.

00:20:46.000 This is like a, ooh, what's going to happen here fight.

00:20:51.000 Dan Mergliata.

00:20:52.000 Dan slimming down.

00:20:54.000 Yeah, he's only 500 pounds now.

00:20:56.000 That guy's gigantic.

00:20:57.000 How tall is he?

00:20:58.000 Huge!

00:20:59.000 He's like at least 6'5".

00:21:01.000 And he's not like a tall, thin guy either.

00:21:04.000 He's a giant.

00:21:05.000 For real though, he's probably 300 pounds.

00:21:07.000 Easy.

00:21:08.000 Very interesting.

00:21:09.000 He's 170. 451 of the first round.

00:21:12.000 50, 49, 48, 47 if you want to sync it up with us.

00:21:19.000 42, 41. Marise is missing a tricep on his left arm.

00:21:25.000 You know, Sarah's got one missing.

00:21:26.000 Oh, no, he's got a bicep missing.

00:21:28.000 Yeah.

00:21:28.000 What happened to the tricep?

00:21:29.000 His arm tore and he never got surgery on it.

00:21:32.000 Or if he got surgery, it never came back.

00:21:34.000 But look, you can see he doesn't really have a tricep on his left arm.

00:21:38.000 Oh, he got hurt.

00:21:39.000 He got hurt to the bottom.

00:21:40.000 Oh, shit.

00:21:41.000 He's in a lot of trouble.

00:21:45.000 He's in a lot of trouble.

00:21:46.000 He won't get on top of him.

00:21:47.000 Look at that.

00:21:47.000 He's hurt and he's on his back and he won't get on top of him.

00:21:50.000 Yeah, but that's smart.

00:21:51.000 Like, make him stand up if you're tooling off on him.

00:21:53.000 But he's on his back.

00:21:55.000 It's suicide.

00:21:55.000 Yeah, but on his back he might have a chance to do something.

00:21:57.000 Standing up, he's getting tooled.

00:22:00.000 I'm agreeing with you, Joe.

00:22:01.000 I'm just...

00:22:02.000 It's smart.

00:22:05.000 It's interesting.

00:22:05.000 Yeah, it's smart.

00:22:07.000 I mean, wouldn't you tell him that if you were Camaro's coach?

00:22:09.000 Fuck yeah.

00:22:10.000 You're like, don't go to the ground with this guy.

00:22:11.000 Let up.

00:22:12.000 Kick his calf.

00:22:14.000 Isn't there that chance he's just going to wrap his arms around you and catch his breath?

00:22:17.000 Oh, 100%.

00:22:18.000 He might sweep you.

00:22:20.000 You might think he's more tired than he is.

00:22:22.000 He might recover quicker than you think.

00:22:24.000 Next thing you know, he's got deep half on you.

00:22:26.000 Next thing you know, ooh, he's swinging.

00:22:28.000 He might have a better shot on his back than he does standing.

00:22:32.000 Hey, how long before someone starts doing sidekicks and frontkicks to the calves and to the shins?

00:22:39.000 How long before a shin kick comes back, like in school?

00:22:43.000 Remember when that hurt like a motherfucker?

00:22:45.000 Kids would kick kids in the shins?

00:22:46.000 Yeah, but I think after that Silva Weidman fight, people would break your toes.

00:22:51.000 Yeah, but not if you curl your foot back in a frontkick.

00:22:56.000 Oh, shit.

00:22:57.000 It's a legal kick, right?

00:22:58.000 I think it's legal if you could sidekick the thigh.

00:23:01.000 If you could wheel kick the head.

00:23:04.000 How is anything illegal?

00:23:06.000 It's hilarious, right?

00:23:07.000 Yeah.

00:23:09.000 Well, it almost means how many people that get hit on the back of the head.

00:23:13.000 That's one thing I was noticing about boxing tonight.

00:23:15.000 Guys will complain while they're in the middle of an exchange if a punch hits the back of the head.

00:23:19.000 They touch the back of their head.

00:23:21.000 Like, hey, you're cheating.

00:23:21.000 You're hitting me back here.

00:23:22.000 Don't fucking hit me back here.

00:23:24.000 It's almost like an excuse for getting hit at all.

00:23:26.000 You fucking never see that in the UFC in stand-up.

00:23:29.000 You never see guys complaining about getting hit in the back of the head.

00:23:32.000 You hear about it on the ground.

00:23:34.000 You know, like you hear about like sometimes when a guy's trying to finish someone, they'll hit him all over the place and sometimes they'll hit the head.

00:23:40.000 Whether it's on purpose or not, they only know.

00:23:42.000 But standing up, you never hear about it.

00:23:45.000 Well, did you think that referee was pretty tall?

00:23:46.000 Oh, he's hurt.

00:23:47.000 No!

00:23:47.000 He's out!

00:23:48.000 He's out!

00:23:49.000 Oh, shit.

00:23:51.000 Wow!

00:23:52.000 That was sensational.

00:23:53.000 I told you, Kamaru Usman is legit.

00:23:56.000 That dude is seriously talented.

00:24:01.000 Standing up was a smart move.

00:24:02.000 Yeah, he could be the one.

00:24:04.000 That guy could be a legit world champion.

00:24:07.000 I believe he's undefeated too.

00:24:09.000 He has one loss.

00:24:10.000 Who's his loss to?

00:24:11.000 It was his second fight or something.

00:24:13.000 I think he's on a long winning streak.

00:24:15.000 Who's his loss to, Jeremy?

00:24:18.000 Kamaru Usman.

00:24:20.000 I'm a problem, he says.

00:24:22.000 Oh man, for some reason I thought he was like Nigerian.

00:24:25.000 He is Nigerian, but he came when he was young.

00:24:27.000 I asked him that.

00:24:29.000 Serious wrestler.

00:24:30.000 Serious athlete.

00:24:31.000 Look at that back.

00:24:32.000 Dude, everything.

00:24:33.000 That's so thick.

00:24:34.000 His speed.

00:24:34.000 And the thing is, man, he didn't even start out as a striker.

00:24:38.000 Jose Caceres.

00:24:39.000 He wrestled in college?

00:24:40.000 He got submitted.

00:24:42.000 Way back in CFA 11 in his second pro fight.

00:24:46.000 Boom!

00:24:47.000 Dude, look at the speed on that shit.

00:24:49.000 Hold on, what about this shot?

00:24:51.000 Oh, take that, dude.

00:24:52.000 Is that Dan just giving this guy an extra second to see if he can get back?

00:24:56.000 Oh, man!

00:24:57.000 Just wanted to see if the guy was conscious, because if he rolled, and then he was looking at him, he had his hands up, he would let it go.

00:25:04.000 Great stoppage.

00:25:05.000 Great stoppage.

00:25:06.000 That was perfect.

00:25:07.000 So you don't think it should have been stopped before that punch?

00:25:09.000 No, it's a violent sport.

00:25:10.000 You know what?

00:25:10.000 One extra punch.

00:25:11.000 It's a violent sport.

00:25:12.000 He could have stopped it, but he could have recovered.

00:25:15.000 That was the perfect stoppage.

00:25:16.000 You've got to let it play out a little bit.

00:25:18.000 And it's hard to do.

00:25:19.000 Dan's one of the best in the business, though.

00:25:21.000 He's so good.

00:25:23.000 You very rarely have complaints about Dan Mergliata.

00:25:27.000 All fighters hate being stopped early.

00:25:29.000 They all hate that.

00:25:31.000 Gavin Tucker actually said that.

00:25:33.000 He thanked that referee for giving him a chance.

00:25:35.000 But that's just a guy who's too tough for his own good.

00:25:37.000 That was his first loss, though.

00:25:38.000 I mean, he's a really tough dude, and, like, there was no way he was gonna quit.

00:25:41.000 But isn't his, like, orbital socket all fucked up?

00:25:43.000 I mean, he's gonna have a lot of things wrong with him.

00:25:45.000 He got beat up.

00:25:46.000 Yeah.

00:25:47.000 Real bad.

00:25:48.000 It was a bad beating.

00:25:49.000 Like, he took a beating for, I mean, the first round, it took a while before, you know, it got sort of lopsided.

00:25:56.000 But then from the second round on, it was pretty obvious that Rick Glenn wasn't getting tired.

00:26:01.000 And he's just pushing this crazy steady pace and just Gavin could not keep up with him and Rick was long and he couldn't get close to him and Rick just had this very workmanly approach.

00:26:11.000 Just kept on him and the dude just started breaking.

00:26:15.000 Just a guy who knows, like a guy who's been around for a long time, at least the way Frankie Edgar beat up on Yahya Rodriguez.

00:26:20.000 A guy who's been around for a long time who knows how to beat the hot young guy coming up.

00:26:24.000 Well, Frankie Edgar's on a totally different level, because Frankie can keep this ferocious pace that so few people can keep up with.

00:26:32.000 Like, Yair thought he might keep up with it.

00:26:34.000 He thought, like, maybe when I get in there, I'll be able to scramble with this guy.

00:26:37.000 I'll be able to keep up with him.

00:26:38.000 My ground game's pretty good.

00:26:40.000 Probably worked on getting back up to his feet.

00:26:41.000 Probably thought, I'll surprise him.

00:26:43.000 I'll surprise him.

00:26:43.000 And when we're kicking, standing up, he's not going to be able to deal with my shit.

00:26:47.000 He just realized there's levels to this thing.

00:26:49.000 Frankie Edgar is on that world championship level.

00:26:52.000 Is that what he's thinking probably is?

00:26:54.000 Like, there's no way Frankie's going to get close enough to me?

00:26:55.000 I'm going to be able to keep him away from me?

00:26:57.000 Well, or catch him coming in, or Frankie might try to exchange with him on the feet, and he has a chance to land something, or maybe his takedown defense is better than Frankie thinks it is.

00:27:07.000 There's a lot of thoughts that go into your head when you try to pull something like that off, but it was...

00:27:12.000 If you were his manager, it's not the fight to make.

00:27:15.000 It's just not the fight.

00:27:16.000 It's one of the worst fights to make.

00:27:18.000 I mean, it's good to find out how you do against an elite wrestler, but not the elite wrestler.

00:27:23.000 The guy who is a lightweight world champion.

00:27:25.000 Now he's coming down to 145, but the only guy that's been able to beat him is Aldo.

00:27:29.000 Yeah, that's a decision, I think, right?

00:27:31.000 Yeah.

00:27:32.000 I mean, Frankie's goddamn world class.

00:27:35.000 Aldo might have his number.

00:27:36.000 I don't know, but...

00:27:38.000 That doesn't mean that Frankie can't beat a lot of guys.

00:27:40.000 He fucked up Cub Swanson.

00:27:42.000 He's world championship level.

00:27:44.000 But sometimes guys, just for whatever reason, can't beat another guy.

00:27:48.000 Joe Frazier was always a world championship level boxer.

00:27:52.000 Could not beat George Foreman.

00:27:53.000 If they fought 100 times, George Foreman would have beat him 100 times.

00:27:57.000 Yeah, and that's got to get into your head after a while.

00:27:59.000 I mean, Jones, Cormier only twice and plus all the stuff that happened, but there is always that one guy that you just can't do anything against.

00:28:04.000 There's guys that have a solution to your style.

00:28:08.000 You know, do you remember Sugar Shane Mosley?

00:28:11.000 Vernon Forrest.

00:28:12.000 Vernon Forrest just had this solution to Sugar Shane Mosley.

00:28:15.000 I believe he beat him twice.

00:28:17.000 You know, and it was like one of those things where Vernon didn't look the best Rest in peace.

00:28:24.000 He got shot, actually.

00:28:25.000 It's a terrible story, man.

00:28:26.000 Someone was trying to rob his car.

00:28:28.000 He tried to stop someone from robbing his car and they shot him.

00:28:31.000 The gas station in Atlanta, is that the guy I'm thinking of?

00:28:33.000 Yeah.

00:28:34.000 Didn't he chase the guys, too?

00:28:35.000 He chased them and they fucking popped them?

00:28:37.000 Yeah.

00:28:38.000 And apparently he was a super nice guy.

00:28:40.000 It's just a really, really sad story.

00:28:43.000 But he could shine against Shane in a way that he couldn't shine against other people.

00:28:48.000 Yeah.

00:28:48.000 But then Ricardo Mayorga knocked him out, remember?

00:28:50.000 I believe that.

00:28:51.000 No, I don't remember the fight.

00:28:52.000 I believe Mayorga knocked him out.

00:28:54.000 Definitely beat him, I believe.

00:28:57.000 I actually met Shane Mosley at one of my first UFC events.

00:28:59.000 He was there.

00:29:00.000 I want to say it's 2008, 2009. It might have been a Rampage fight in 2009. It's weird to watch boxers and those things and how they react.

00:29:07.000 It is weird, right?

00:29:09.000 I sat behind Bernard Hopkins, and he had critical things to say.

00:29:12.000 A bunch of guys rolling around, it looks gay.

00:29:14.000 And then watching him and his trainers watch the guys on the ground.

00:29:19.000 Watching the stand-up, they were fine, but what they really got impressed with was the stuff on the ground, because that's the stuff he can't do.

00:29:24.000 So it was interesting to watch him kind of...

00:29:26.000 Watch his opinion change as he was there.

00:29:28.000 Right.

00:29:30.000 Yeah, I mean, they have to talk.

00:29:31.000 The problem is there's, like, these camps.

00:29:35.000 Like, look at that.

00:29:36.000 Boom!

00:29:36.000 Look at that right hand.

00:29:37.000 Good lord, that was clean.

00:29:39.000 Like, you see him shaking his head.

00:29:40.000 He's totally out of it there.

00:29:42.000 Look at the timing on this.

00:29:44.000 Oh, that's so good.

00:29:46.000 But, you know, people just get lumped off into camps.

00:29:49.000 Like, what sport's better?

00:29:51.000 It's so silly.

00:29:52.000 Yeah.

00:29:54.000 It's so silly, because boxing at its highest level, like tonight, what we're gonna watch in just hopefully like five or ten minutes...

00:30:01.000 They're walking out now.

00:30:03.000 Oh shit!

00:30:04.000 That is very compelling.

00:30:06.000 Do you know that's one of the main differences right there, what you just saw Usman do?

00:30:09.000 That's one of the main differences between UFC and every sport, is the way the fighters treat the fans and interact with the fans.

00:30:15.000 You just don't see that in any other sport.

00:30:17.000 No, it's true.

00:30:18.000 And there's a lot of events where people get to meet fighters.

00:30:21.000 They do a lot of events, a lot of signings and shit.

00:30:24.000 You can go meet them and hang out with them.

00:30:25.000 And you get invested in them and you get connected to them, so then when they're on the prelims or the undercard, you still want to watch them fight.

00:30:30.000 Yeah.

00:30:31.000 There's a lot of good things.

00:30:33.000 The UFC figured out that boxing had fucked up, and now boxing has kind of picked up the slack in a lot of ways.

00:30:40.000 Rob Font.

00:30:41.000 Powerful Rob Font.

00:30:43.000 He's Mark Delgrate's student.

00:30:45.000 Very talented guy.

00:30:47.000 And they also figured out giving you the fights that you want to see.

00:30:50.000 Yep.

00:30:51.000 Like, just give you the fights.

00:30:52.000 Don't make it wait five years like we did with Tyson Holyfield.

00:30:56.000 Just put the fight together.

00:30:57.000 Make it happen.

00:30:57.000 You don't have ten different promoters working on it.

00:31:00.000 Yeah.

00:31:01.000 It's hard to do that with boxing, you know?

00:31:03.000 Sure.

00:31:03.000 I mean, this Canelo-Gernady Golovkin fight, this is a unification middleweight title fight.

00:31:08.000 Let's go to it right now.

00:31:09.000 It's very fucking hard to get these things to pull off.

00:31:15.000 It's all the behind-the-scenes people.

00:31:17.000 Yeah.

00:31:31.000 I gotta pee real quick.

00:31:32.000 You think the bathroom's safe now?

00:31:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:34.000 I gave it the mandatory hour.

00:31:36.000 Yeah, it's a good hour.

00:31:37.000 Alright, let me try to find this.

00:31:39.000 Jamie, where am I supposed to point this fucking thing?

00:31:41.000 From there.

00:31:42.000 Oh, that side.

00:31:43.000 Okay, now it's working.

00:31:46.000 Big fight for Branch.

00:31:48.000 Huge dude.

00:31:50.000 That they give him...

00:31:51.000 Luke Rockhold?

00:31:53.000 That's kind of crazy.

00:31:56.000 Is this his first fight in the UFC? No.

00:31:59.000 No, he used to be in the UFC a while back.

00:32:01.000 And then...

00:32:03.000 I guess I'm going to have to keep doing this.

00:32:05.000 So 219...

00:32:06.000 Yeah, it's not working.

00:32:13.000 123 maybe?

00:32:15.000 Okay, hang on a second.

00:32:16.000 This is the most boring part of the podcast ever.

00:32:19.000 What did you just ask me?

00:32:21.000 David Branch.

00:32:22.000 He fought Gerald Harris way back in the day.

00:32:25.000 He got slammed and KO'd.

00:32:27.000 This was like his first fight in the UFC. He was in Gerald Harris' guard, and he slammed him and knocked him out cold.

00:32:35.000 So it was a good fight up until that moment, but he was in his guard.

00:32:38.000 He was trying to work his guard, and he got just body slammed.

00:32:41.000 And got knocked out from it.

00:32:43.000 He got picked up in the guard like Arona Rampage?

00:32:46.000 Gerald Harris is a stud.

00:32:47.000 He didn't get picked up that high.

00:32:51.000 It wasn't like that.

00:32:52.000 That's the crazy shit of all time.

00:32:53.000 That wasn't the guard.

00:32:54.000 That was a triangle.

00:32:55.000 So all that extra leverage.

00:32:57.000 You get higher.

00:33:00.000 Dude, that's terrifying.

00:33:02.000 That's the most terrifying slam of all time.

00:33:04.000 Fuck yeah.

00:33:05.000 We watched that the other day.

00:33:06.000 You did?

00:33:07.000 Yeah, we watched the head.

00:33:08.000 The head collide as he slams into the ground and you see Rampage's head smash into Arona's head.

00:33:14.000 Dude.

00:33:15.000 Yeah.

00:33:15.000 Nobody could slam people like Rampage slammed people.

00:33:18.000 Alright folks, so Gennady Golovkin just walked out.

00:33:22.000 Look at all those belts.

00:33:24.000 Motherfucker has a lot of belts.

00:33:25.000 Wasn't he on like a 23 or 24 first round knockout streak too before this last decision?

00:33:31.000 Something preposterous.

00:33:32.000 Okay, who's the champion here?

00:33:33.000 They're both champions.

00:33:35.000 Who's heavier?

00:33:36.000 Well, Gennady Golovkin's been fighting at a heavier weight class.

00:33:40.000 And Canelo fought...

00:33:43.000 Floyd Mayweather, I think at 152. And I think earlier in his career, he fought lighter than that.

00:33:49.000 I believe.

00:33:50.000 Wasn't that way earlier, too, though, for him?

00:33:51.000 Yes, yes.

00:33:52.000 He was a young guy when he went pro.

00:33:54.000 Like, real young.

00:33:56.000 What's that?

00:33:57.000 23 straight.

00:33:58.000 He had 23 straight KOs?

00:34:00.000 In the first round.

00:34:01.000 Go down to Golovkin did?

00:34:02.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:34:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:03.000 Yeah, 23 straight KOs.

00:34:05.000 But then he went to...

00:34:06.000 I don't think they were all in the first round.

00:34:07.000 Maybe they weren't in the first round?

00:34:08.000 No.

00:34:08.000 I'm just adding to his legend for no reason.

00:34:11.000 Most of them, he would break guys down over a few rounds.

00:34:13.000 Think about how that Mayweather fight, all the hype and the promo, how it blew him up.

00:34:19.000 From that fight, he's like a national hero.

00:34:21.000 Canelo?

00:34:22.000 Canelo was already a national hero.

00:34:23.000 Not quite as big as he is now.

00:34:25.000 Yeah, I guess the Mayweather fight made him big, but he wouldn't just beat the shit out of Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. That was terrible.

00:34:30.000 A terrible fight.

00:34:32.000 That was sad to watch.

00:34:33.000 Yeah, my mom didn't know who Canelo was before that Mayweather fight.

00:34:36.000 Now she worships him.

00:34:37.000 I don't love the dad either, to be honest with you.

00:34:39.000 My mom is as Mexican as it gets.

00:34:41.000 Isn't it sad to watch a guy like Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. fight a guy like Canelo?

00:34:46.000 I missed it.

00:34:48.000 Oh, dude.

00:34:49.000 I thought he was supposed to be good.

00:34:50.000 He wasn't in the family business.

00:34:51.000 He's good.

00:34:51.000 He's tough.

00:34:51.000 He's just not that good?

00:34:52.000 No.

00:34:52.000 Did he get knocked out?

00:34:53.000 No, he got beat up.

00:34:54.000 He went into a defensive shell.

00:34:56.000 He just stopped firing back at all.

00:34:58.000 He was just getting tooled on.

00:35:00.000 You know who he reminded me of?

00:35:01.000 The kid in the bed and who's bears?

00:35:02.000 Remember the kid when he was holding the ball and he's so pissed off at his father?

00:35:05.000 And his father slapped him in the face and he won't throw the ball home?

00:35:08.000 That's what he reminded me of during that fight.

00:35:10.000 Just like fucking just kind of standing there, letting it happen.

00:35:13.000 It was hard to watch, man.

00:35:14.000 I was like, this kid doesn't need to be doing this.

00:35:17.000 Like, he doesn't really want to do it.

00:35:18.000 Didn't it seem like he didn't want to fight?

00:35:19.000 Yeah, he definitely didn't want to fight him.

00:35:21.000 You think he had like a panic attack?

00:35:22.000 No, I just think he realized that there was just a level of commitment that Canelo possesses that he just doesn't.

00:35:27.000 And he knew it in the...

00:35:28.000 There's like tells in their interviews.

00:35:31.000 Like, Max Kellerman does a very nice interview when he sits down with two fighters, and he sits in between of them, and he asks them questions, and they'll ask him questions, and they have this, like, translate thing back and forth, but...

00:35:43.000 You could see, psychologically, Canelo had a big advantage over him.

00:35:47.000 Canelo was just saying, look, his fight career has been a disgrace.

00:35:51.000 I've fought the best of the best.

00:35:54.000 His father was amazing and he was an incredible world champion, but he's just never lived up to the hype.

00:36:00.000 And you could see...

00:36:02.000 You know, he was like, well, I will know.

00:36:04.000 Yeah, it's not a good comeback.

00:36:05.000 I'm gonna know.

00:36:06.000 That's a very poor comeback.

00:36:07.000 Was he good, though?

00:36:08.000 Was he, like, before Canelo?

00:36:11.000 He's always been good.

00:36:12.000 Was he undefeated?

00:36:14.000 He's a good fighter.

00:36:14.000 No, he's lost to some fighters, like maybe one or two.

00:36:17.000 I can't remember how many people he's lost to.

00:36:19.000 Are you talking about Charles?

00:36:21.000 He's one of the best.

00:36:22.000 He just can't get that belt.

00:36:24.000 He was better, I think, a few years ago, but he's always been a very good fighter.

00:36:30.000 Like, he's not a bad fighter.

00:36:31.000 Like, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. knows how to fight, for sure.

00:36:34.000 He's just not at this guy's level.

00:36:36.000 But do you think it's because their fathers are both, well, I'm thinking about Marvis Frazier, too, or guys whose fathers, when you grow up with boxing money, it's a little harder to be motivated than a guy like that.

00:36:45.000 For sure.

00:36:45.000 You don't have that kind of confidence, that kind of mean streak.

00:36:48.000 It's not a coincidence that so many of these guys grow up in impoverished situations.

00:36:52.000 But here's the thing.

00:36:53.000 Jon Jones, I don't think, grew up in...

00:36:55.000 I mean, his family's still together.

00:36:57.000 I think he had a comfortable financial childhood.

00:37:00.000 I might be wrong about that.

00:37:02.000 But, I mean, his family's all together.

00:37:06.000 So it doesn't...

00:37:08.000 Like, some guys are just better at it.

00:37:11.000 Yeah, but I think there's much more the other way than there are guys who grew up comfortably.

00:37:14.000 There's some, like Bill Lambert, they said grew up pretty comfortable and wealthy and was still like the biggest animal on the court.

00:37:20.000 It can totally happen.

00:37:21.000 You could have a kid that has all the money in the world but they just have some psychotic drive where they just want to be the best at something.

00:37:27.000 They want to prove they're not pussies.

00:37:29.000 It could be that or it could just be there's people that just really love testing themselves.

00:37:34.000 They just really love competing.

00:37:36.000 And you get a few steps ahead, right?

00:37:39.000 Like, you do it for a little bit, and then you really start getting into it, and then you get into it more, and then it becomes you, becomes your favorite thing to do, becomes your identity.

00:37:46.000 Like, even if you grew up with money, you could still become obsessed with something.

00:37:50.000 And if you could become obsessed by being the best at anything, it's possible.

00:37:54.000 It's just not as likely.

00:37:56.000 It's way more likely when it's a poor kid.

00:37:58.000 They grow up, you know, with a sense of urgency.

00:38:01.000 You grow up with, like, this knowledge in your head that, hey, man, it might not always be okay.

00:38:07.000 Like, there could be a real bad time.

00:38:09.000 And a lot of times your motive for going after it is different, too, because you really do remember what it's like to have absolutely nothing, so your motive is to avoid that again.

00:38:16.000 That's a very powerful thing.

00:38:17.000 It is a very powerful thing, and you can't fake that.

00:38:20.000 By the way, boxing has too much shit in the ring.

00:38:22.000 There's just too much business happening in the fucking ring.

00:38:24.000 Stop it.

00:38:25.000 Look at all these people in here.

00:38:25.000 It's very unnecessary.

00:38:27.000 There's 30 people in there.

00:38:28.000 It's kind of like that in music, too, because the thought is that you have to grow up in the same kind of situation, you know, impoverished or like just a serious broken family, lack of love.

00:38:41.000 But then you have Chris Martin, the singer from Coldplay.

00:38:44.000 He breaks the mold.

00:38:45.000 It's like valedictorian, you know, brought up with money and just a happy life.

00:38:52.000 You know, he's just like making music.

00:38:54.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:38:55.000 Bayless, that's by the way, the referee I think who was shitting on Conor and Floyd fighting.

00:39:00.000 Who'd want to see that?

00:39:01.000 It's two different sports.

00:39:02.000 Kenny Bayless did that?

00:39:03.000 I'm pretty sure that's the ref that they did not want.

00:39:06.000 Oh, that's funny.

00:39:07.000 Well, you know, a lot of boxing people, like I was saying before, they want to defend boxing.

00:39:11.000 They want to be on team boxing.

00:39:14.000 And honestly, I played a part of that a little bit when I had this thing with Lou DiBella.

00:39:20.000 That's right.

00:39:20.000 You were very good in that, by the way.

00:39:22.000 Well, it felt like it was pretty easy.

00:39:24.000 He wasn't making very good arguments.

00:39:25.000 He was terrible arguments.

00:39:26.000 The other problem is, I mean, you know, if I really went to war with somebody, I said, yeah, I got that guy.

00:39:32.000 It was a terrible argument, and I'm a fan.

00:39:35.000 Like, that's the dumb part.

00:39:36.000 I'm a fan of boxing.

00:39:37.000 And I probably know a lot.

00:39:39.000 I bet if he and I sat down and we just started talking about classic fights, Hagler-Hearns, you know, Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberta Durant, like he would realize like really quickly, like I'm a legit boxing fan.

00:39:51.000 I fucking love boxing.

00:39:52.000 How many rounds did Hagler-Hearns go?

00:39:53.000 Is that three?

00:39:55.000 Yes.

00:39:56.000 Who did he draw with?

00:39:58.000 Hagler?

00:39:59.000 Oh, Canelo?

00:39:59.000 I don't know.

00:40:00.000 He had that fight with Mayweather, though, where Mayweather just...

00:40:03.000 Mayweather did a genius thing.

00:40:04.000 First of all, he made him cut a lot of weight, made him get down to 152, drained him up a little bit.

00:40:09.000 And then, you know, he caught him before he reached the level that he's at now.

00:40:14.000 Like, when he fought Amir Khan...

00:40:16.000 He fucked Amir Khan up, dude, with a haymaker of a right hand.

00:40:19.000 And when he landed that bomb and put Amir Khan to sleep, you gotta go, okay, this is a guy that's now at the fucking peak of his game.

00:40:27.000 So when he fought Mayweather, Mayweather caught him right when he was getting into it.

00:40:32.000 Right when he was coming up.

00:40:33.000 And that Mayweather fight, I think, took him over the top.

00:40:36.000 When you fight a guy that's slick, and it's talented, and fucking fast, and the timing that Mayweather has, you realize that there's levels to this thing.

00:40:44.000 Is Golovkin fighting at the weight he normally fights at?

00:40:46.000 Yeah, this is his weight, man.

00:40:47.000 He's the king.

00:40:49.000 This guy's a beast.

00:40:51.000 I don't know.

00:40:51.000 The guys behind him look exactly like him, too.

00:40:53.000 The good thing about this fight is, what's interesting is, Golovkin, some experts believe that he might be slipping slightly.

00:41:01.000 And Canelo is coming up.

00:41:03.000 And the idea is that a year ago, Golovkin would have fucked Canelo up.

00:41:07.000 This is what a lot of people believe.

00:41:09.000 But now, Canelo's better, and Golovkin might have faded a little bit.

00:41:13.000 What's the age difference?

00:41:14.000 I think Golovkin is, he's older for sure, but I think he's 35. See if you can find that, young Jamie.

00:41:21.000 I want to say he's 35 or 36. Yeah, Canelo's 27. Golovkin is what?

00:41:30.000 34?

00:41:31.000 I think he's younger than 36. 35. Okay.

00:41:34.000 So that's like, unless he's juicing, that's the last of the squeeze.

00:41:40.000 Eight years, yeah.

00:41:42.000 No, but I mean when you're around 35, that's when the decline happens to almost everybody.

00:41:47.000 36, it slips.

00:41:49.000 37, it slips more.

00:41:50.000 39, 40. Very rarely see a 40-year-old champion that's not on the sauce.

00:41:54.000 Yeah, I mean, that's why Randy Couture was such an amazing...

00:41:57.000 Well, it's really why Bernard Hopkins was the most impressive.

00:42:00.000 He went into his 50s.

00:42:02.000 And he still was out boxing world-class fighters and dropping them.

00:42:06.000 I mean, he got fucked up by Joe Smith, but Joe Smith is a monster.

00:42:09.000 Was that his final fight where he got knocked through the ring?

00:42:11.000 Scary.

00:42:12.000 How old is he now?

00:42:13.000 52 or 53. And he was 50 when he last fought.

00:42:16.000 I think he was 51 or 52. And his brain is perfectly coherent.

00:42:21.000 I don't know how he has nothing.

00:42:22.000 Here we go.

00:42:23.000 Round one, ladies and gentlemen.

00:42:25.000 Eddie Bravo, prediction?

00:42:27.000 I'm gonna go with the Mexican.

00:42:29.000 Dude, you gotta go with your people.

00:42:31.000 I understand.

00:42:33.000 Norton?

00:42:34.000 I gotta go with Golovkin.

00:42:35.000 Have to.

00:42:36.000 Yeah.

00:42:37.000 Because he's white?

00:42:38.000 Absolutely.

00:42:38.000 I feel like either one of these motherfuckers could shock the world.

00:42:43.000 Is Kazakhstan considered white?

00:42:46.000 Well, yeah.

00:42:47.000 I mean, it's definitely white if you go to a black neighborhood and try to say the N-word.

00:42:53.000 Yep.

00:42:53.000 That's all you need to know.

00:42:55.000 Are you white?

00:42:56.000 Well, can you get away with being in a black neighborhood and using the N-word?

00:42:59.000 Yeah.

00:43:00.000 Do you have that type of credibility or do not?

00:43:02.000 If you're Wesley Snarp Stark, you can get away with using it anywhere in the world, right?

00:43:06.000 Sure.

00:43:07.000 So Canelo's white?

00:43:08.000 Canelo is actually Mexican, but he's got red fucking hair.

00:43:11.000 It's crazy.

00:43:12.000 Freckles.

00:43:13.000 But if Kazakhstan is considered white, then why wouldn't Canelo be considered white?

00:43:18.000 He is white.

00:43:18.000 For sure.

00:43:19.000 I mean, he's Russian.

00:43:21.000 Or, you know, part of the former Soviet Union.

00:43:25.000 That's right by China.

00:43:26.000 Well, you know, a lot of these people have Mongolian in them.

00:43:28.000 A lot of these people...

00:43:30.000 Is that white?

00:43:30.000 Well, no.

00:43:31.000 It's like an Asian.

00:43:32.000 But that's Genghis Khan.

00:43:35.000 I mean, Genghis Khan, I think they said some insane number, like 5% of all the men in Asia, or all the people in Asia, Have Genghis Khan's genes.

00:43:43.000 Jesus.

00:43:44.000 He was dumping loads all over the place.

00:43:45.000 Fucked everybody and killed everyone.

00:43:47.000 Killed like, you know, they don't even know how many millions, but somewhere between 20 and 70 million people died directly by his hand.

00:43:55.000 You know what his daughter was named?

00:43:57.000 Which one?

00:43:58.000 Shaka.

00:43:59.000 Shaka Khan?

00:44:02.000 Feel for you.

00:44:03.000 I met her in a falafel place in New York.

00:44:05.000 Me and Godfrey chased her down the street and ran into a meter.

00:44:08.000 Oh my god.

00:44:08.000 Look at this.

00:44:09.000 One in 200 of the whole population of the world is directly descended from Genghis Khan.

00:44:16.000 Look at that.

00:44:18.000 Oh my god.

00:44:20.000 What years was he alive?

00:44:23.000 It was like the 1200s, I think.

00:44:25.000 That's basically 100% of China.

00:44:26.000 Yeah.

00:44:27.000 Oh dude, this is a great fight, huh?

00:44:30.000 Golovkin just double-jabbed him.

00:44:32.000 Ooh.

00:44:34.000 That's a strong jab.

00:44:36.000 That might be a big factor.

00:44:38.000 He's used that jab before on guys and shocked him and out-boxed him.

00:44:43.000 Lemieux, he did that with.

00:44:44.000 He came out and started popping him with a jab, and a lot of people didn't expect that.

00:44:48.000 He can out-box the shit out of people.

00:44:50.000 He caught him.

00:44:52.000 Uppercut.

00:44:54.000 Oh, shit!

00:44:55.000 Yeah, those are blocked, though.

00:44:56.000 Nothing's happening there.

00:44:57.000 Those are getting blocked.

00:44:59.000 The jab is what you gotta keep an eye on.

00:45:01.000 See?

00:45:02.000 Or the counter right hand of Canelo, too.

00:45:04.000 He's a lot bigger.

00:45:05.000 Who?

00:45:06.000 Triple G. Yeah, he is bigger.

00:45:08.000 He's taller.

00:45:09.000 See how that jab keeps landing?

00:45:11.000 His face is fucked up, and it's the first round.

00:45:15.000 He's getting lit up with that straight jab.

00:45:22.000 He's shaking his hand.

00:45:23.000 He's got a little latitude.

00:45:24.000 He's shaking it a lot, yeah.

00:45:24.000 Well, he gets angry at people and starts talking shit to them and he puts his hands down and lets them punch him in the face.

00:45:29.000 When he was breaking this one dude down, as he was breaking him down, he put his hands down, started walking towards him and letting the guy punch him, just moving his hands slightly and then fucking digs in on him.

00:45:38.000 He's a mean guy, man.

00:45:39.000 How many?

00:45:40.000 Yeah, he's mean.

00:45:41.000 Isn't the psychology that amazing though?

00:45:43.000 When you drop your hands, a lot of times guys won't react immediately because there's a schoolyard humiliation of a guy doing that and you missing.

00:45:49.000 It's really weird to watch professional fighters not always just go right in when someone's hands are down.

00:45:54.000 Well, let me help you out with that.

00:45:55.000 There's also a reason.

00:45:56.000 When you drop your hands, you don't know where the punches are coming from.

00:45:58.000 It's a different thing.

00:45:59.000 Like, it's very tricky.

00:46:00.000 When someone drops their hands, you have to be very careful.

00:46:02.000 Because things can come from anywhere.

00:46:04.000 It's one of the reasons why Tommy Hearns, when he jabbed, he kept his hand down here and he'd pop it up in your face.

00:46:09.000 You don't see it as much.

00:46:11.000 You don't see it as quick.

00:46:12.000 If someone's standing right here and you see this and you see that, you see the hands a little bit more.

00:46:16.000 It's a traditional pattern that you understand.

00:46:19.000 When someone has their hands down low and they start moving their head, shit can come wild from all over the place.

00:46:24.000 How many pay-per-view cards has Triple G headlined?

00:46:27.000 Only a few.

00:46:28.000 He's been mostly like an HBO fighter because his pay-per-views didn't sell well.

00:46:34.000 Which one?

00:46:35.000 Gennady Golovkin.

00:46:36.000 I forget who he fought, but he was like 150,000 buys.

00:46:39.000 It's unfortunate because he's fucking marvelous in there.

00:46:43.000 I mean, amazing.

00:46:44.000 Who's the two best guys he beat?

00:46:46.000 Kell Brook.

00:46:47.000 Kell Brook's very good.

00:46:48.000 And he broke him down.

00:46:49.000 White guy?

00:46:50.000 Yeah.

00:46:50.000 No, he's a black guy from England.

00:46:52.000 Really badass.

00:46:53.000 World champion at a lighter weight.

00:46:54.000 He was world champion, I believe, at welterweight.

00:46:56.000 And he came up.

00:46:57.000 Oh, look at this.

00:46:58.000 Canelo.

00:46:58.000 I don't like all that.

00:46:59.000 That's a little wasted energy right there.

00:47:01.000 A little too much emotion.

00:47:03.000 I mean, he like roostered him.

00:47:05.000 Got behind him.

00:47:07.000 That's a lot of energy.

00:47:08.000 He just blew there in a fight.

00:47:09.000 That happened a lot, too, in Conor.

00:47:11.000 Yeah.

00:47:11.000 Man with a lot.

00:47:12.000 I think that was different, though, you know.

00:47:14.000 Yeah.

00:47:15.000 These guys are way more identical in terms of skill and career.

00:47:20.000 But I'm seeing Golovkin get the better of these exchanges.

00:47:23.000 They both jabbed each other at the same time.

00:47:26.000 Stiff.

00:47:29.000 You know, the age could really be a factor.

00:47:32.000 Canelo's never really taken a beating.

00:47:34.000 He only had one fight that he lost, and that was that fight with Mayweather.

00:47:39.000 And he really didn't get beat up in that fight, he just got outboxed.

00:47:42.000 Was that a decision?

00:47:43.000 Yeah.

00:47:44.000 Unanimous.

00:47:45.000 Clear.

00:47:45.000 Mayweather just showed him what's up.

00:47:48.000 But he didn't knock him out, you know what I mean?

00:47:50.000 It's like Canelo's beating the fuck out of some really good fighters.

00:47:56.000 He's a super dangerous puncher.

00:47:58.000 And Golovkin has been in way more wars than Canelo has.

00:48:03.000 Canelo's figured out a way to avoid wars and just put it on people.

00:48:06.000 It's just fucking really good, man.

00:48:08.000 This is, for boxing, this is like as good as it gets.

00:48:11.000 Yeah, it is.

00:48:13.000 Because Canelo's still getting better.

00:48:15.000 You know, ooh, that's a sweet jab.

00:48:17.000 I mean, he's 27 now, and this fight is going to make him better, too.

00:48:20.000 You know, he's only 27. Golovkin, if Canelo managed to KO him and he's 35...

00:48:27.000 Could be the end, you know, or at least the beginning of the end.

00:48:30.000 He's not 25, but Canelo almost is.

00:48:33.000 And part of the appeal is that he's 37-0.

00:48:35.000 There's something about undefeated fire.

00:48:36.000 I like those three G's on his belt.

00:48:38.000 That's huge.

00:48:39.000 Yeah, that's dope.

00:48:40.000 Well, he's undefeated for a reason, man.

00:48:41.000 He's a fucking master.

00:48:43.000 Yeah, Gucci should sponsor him.

00:48:44.000 Ah, that's right.

00:48:46.000 We want two of your G's.

00:48:49.000 Or the Freemasons.

00:48:50.000 Just the other one put over your dick.

00:48:52.000 Just put our G's up top, and then your G over the dick.

00:48:58.000 Hublot, the watch company, sponsored his dick.

00:49:00.000 Look.

00:49:02.000 Isn't that funny that people care about that?

00:49:04.000 Yeah.

00:49:05.000 That the UFC didn't want that.

00:49:08.000 A lot of people felt like if they see too much of that on boxer shorts, it bothers them.

00:49:13.000 I don't even notice it.

00:49:15.000 Does it even help with sales or does it just get into your psyche and you don't even realize it's in there?

00:49:19.000 That's a good question.

00:49:20.000 I remember back in the day, cigarette companies used to sponsor fighters.

00:49:26.000 Like boxers used to have cigarette companies on their shorts.

00:49:30.000 Forget who did that.

00:49:31.000 You know what?

00:49:31.000 It might have been Majorga.

00:49:34.000 Who the fuck had a cigarette company sponsored them?

00:49:37.000 Cigarette company sponsored boxers.

00:49:39.000 Did you ever see the old one where they would sponsor cartoons?

00:49:41.000 And they would show Fred smoking a Winston?

00:49:44.000 Like, they would have, like, fucking, uh, what's that?

00:49:46.000 I hate that show.

00:49:47.000 The, uh, Flintstones.

00:49:48.000 You hate the Flintstones?

00:49:49.000 Ah, it fucking makes me sick.

00:49:52.000 Despise Fred Flintstone.

00:49:53.000 Why?

00:49:54.000 I don't know.

00:49:54.000 I just always hated them.

00:49:56.000 Why?

00:49:57.000 It's a weird one.

00:49:58.000 I'm not a big cartoon guy, but that one I particularly hated.

00:50:00.000 Ooh, look at that.

00:50:00.000 Left hook to the body, son.

00:50:02.000 Ooh!

00:50:06.000 Boom!

00:50:07.000 Golovkin with a crisp straight right.

00:50:11.000 This is as good as it gets for boxing, man.

00:50:13.000 It really is.

00:50:14.000 You know, you got a guy in Golovkin, undefeated, 35-0, been blasting everybody, wanting that big fight.

00:50:20.000 And then Canelo Alvarez, this proud superstar, steps up, wants this fight.

00:50:26.000 Who called who out?

00:50:27.000 They both called each other out.

00:50:28.000 I mean, Canelo's always said he wanted to fight the very best.

00:50:31.000 He's bleeding.

00:50:32.000 Golovkin, it looks like he's...

00:50:35.000 Oh, left hook and then another one behind it.

00:50:37.000 Wow.

00:50:38.000 Goddamn Golovkin's good.

00:50:40.000 Goddamn he's good.

00:50:42.000 He landed some shots there, man.

00:50:46.000 Woo!

00:50:46.000 That was an interesting combination.

00:50:48.000 The way he threw the left hook and then threw it again.

00:50:50.000 A surprising left hook.

00:50:52.000 The second left hook in particular.

00:50:54.000 He's forcing this kid to box with him.

00:50:57.000 I mean, to slug with him.

00:50:58.000 That's his style of fight.

00:51:00.000 Canelo's a really good counter striker.

00:51:03.000 And what's going on here now is...

00:51:07.000 Golovkin is just really coming to him and Canelo's...

00:51:10.000 this is like a perfect fight in a lot of ways.

00:51:12.000 This is like the kind of fight you would hope.

00:51:16.000 But does Canelo want to stand there with him and trade punches?

00:51:18.000 Well, he wants a counter-strike, but, I mean, Golovkin's gonna come towards him, so he has his opportunities.

00:51:22.000 I mean, it's a brilliant fight.

00:51:24.000 Like, as far as, like, what, you know, stylistically?

00:51:28.000 It's perfect.

00:51:29.000 Has Golovkin ever even really been in trouble in a fight?

00:51:32.000 Not really.

00:51:32.000 He's been punched a lot, though.

00:51:34.000 Never been dropped?

00:51:35.000 No, I don't believe so.

00:51:36.000 I've never even seen him, like, stunned.

00:51:39.000 He did have a really good fight in his last fight.

00:51:43.000 Can you put Golovkin's record up so I can remember homeboy's name?

00:51:46.000 He's had a couple of very good fights where, you know, people are coming to him very, you know, enthusiastic.

00:51:53.000 Who was the last fight he fought?

00:51:54.000 Is Sherman who was the last?

00:51:55.000 I don't...

00:51:56.000 Daniel Jacobs.

00:51:57.000 Daniel Jacobs is the one.

00:51:59.000 That guy, that was a really close fight.

00:52:01.000 Awesome, awesome fight.

00:52:03.000 But it was a unanimous decision for Gennady Golovkin, but Daniel Jacobs is fucking for real.

00:52:08.000 White guy?

00:52:09.000 Black guy.

00:52:09.000 He's super good.

00:52:10.000 So it was like, it was a big win.

00:52:13.000 And, you know, everybody could tell watching the fight that Jacobs is super legit.

00:52:18.000 I mean, we already knew it coming in, but...

00:52:20.000 So, even though he didn't knock him out, he still won.

00:52:26.000 Damn, Canelo's fierce.

00:52:27.000 Fierce.

00:52:28.000 Both guys are fierce.

00:52:29.000 Oh, that left hook to the body by Canelo!

00:52:32.000 They're both so good, man.

00:52:34.000 Oh, that uppercut!

00:52:36.000 Damn!

00:52:39.000 See, and then the other thing you gotta think of is age, man.

00:52:42.000 The reality of age.

00:52:44.000 35 with some wars behind him versus 27 with really no wars.

00:52:50.000 Just smashing a lot of people.

00:52:59.000 Real good trainer.

00:53:00.000 He's been the same trainer since he was a kid.

00:53:03.000 What are you showing me, Jamie?

00:53:04.000 What's going on?

00:53:06.000 Is that the UFC? Oh my god, you're amazing.

00:53:10.000 How come we can't put it on that TV? It's on my computer.

00:53:13.000 Oh, we gotta fix that.

00:53:17.000 Who are these guys fighting?

00:53:21.000 Arm triangle.

00:53:23.000 Oh, Gregor Gillespie and Jason Gonzalez.

00:53:29.000 Folks, we should be on Twitter at the same time.

00:53:32.000 We should be periscoping this.

00:53:37.000 I don't use any of those live.

00:53:41.000 Once in a while I go on Facebook.

00:53:43.000 I know it's supposed to help, but I just can't do it.

00:53:45.000 Yeah, sometimes it's too much.

00:53:47.000 He keeps going back to the arm triangle.

00:53:48.000 He lost it last time, and then he went back to it.

00:53:51.000 He likes it.

00:53:52.000 Oh, no, he lost it again.

00:53:53.000 He's going to underjack it again.

00:53:54.000 You go right back to it.

00:53:56.000 Easy on us.

00:53:57.000 He goes right back to it.

00:53:58.000 Look at that.

00:53:58.000 You could tell.

00:53:59.000 I knew he was gonna do it because he's so good at it.

00:54:02.000 There's no way he's gonna wear him out.

00:54:04.000 He's gotta keep him in the chopping block right there.

00:54:06.000 He's gotta not try to finish him.

00:54:07.000 Just keep him in the chopping block.

00:54:09.000 What do you think of that way of defending?

00:54:10.000 Ooh, that was a nice way.

00:54:12.000 Damn.

00:54:12.000 Yeah, when you grab, you escrip under your leg.

00:54:14.000 No, no, no.

00:54:14.000 That's the way you defend it, but doing it the way he's doing it.

00:54:17.000 Oh, he's out.

00:54:18.000 He's gone.

00:54:19.000 It's over.

00:54:20.000 Tap.

00:54:21.000 Was that what Dos Anjos finished off Neil Magny with?

00:54:25.000 Yes, he did.

00:54:26.000 Yeah, smushed him.

00:54:27.000 Round four, here we go.

00:54:30.000 This is too ADD having the UFC play here, too.

00:54:33.000 Dude, you turned it on at the perfect time.

00:54:36.000 You rarely see an underjack battle in the UFC like that.

00:54:41.000 That was a battle.

00:54:42.000 He tried it three different times.

00:54:44.000 You rarely see that.

00:54:45.000 You don't ever see that.

00:54:46.000 That's Gregor Gillespie.

00:54:47.000 He's a fucking beast, man.

00:54:49.000 Gregor Gillespie?

00:54:50.000 Yeah.

00:54:52.000 That's a bad motherfucker right there.

00:54:53.000 He's a beast.

00:54:54.000 That was some good mount strategies.

00:54:56.000 He wasn't trying to beat him up.

00:54:57.000 He was trying to finish him.

00:54:58.000 Shot to the body.

00:54:59.000 Oh, man.

00:54:59.000 Canelo just hit him with a hard left hook to the body and go up.

00:55:02.000 Let's see if they should.

00:55:03.000 These guys are going at it, man.

00:55:05.000 This is crazy.

00:55:10.000 This is a fucking war, man.

00:55:13.000 I mean, we're watching an all-time classic boxing war right now.

00:55:21.000 Look at that jab.

00:55:22.000 Did I hit him?

00:55:23.000 It looked like I missed him.

00:55:24.000 Did I hit him?

00:55:24.000 No, I popped him.

00:55:25.000 Fast.

00:55:26.000 Ooh.

00:55:35.000 Eddie Bravo, would you be watching this if it wasn't for us?

00:55:38.000 Yes, because he's Mexican.

00:55:40.000 Ah...

00:55:42.000 Did you know it was going to start at 8?

00:55:44.000 They always start around 8, 8.30.

00:55:46.000 Well, not usually.

00:55:47.000 They start at like 9. They decided to start this one early.

00:55:50.000 Okay.

00:55:51.000 Just to make sure the people on the East Coast...

00:55:52.000 Look at that.

00:55:52.000 Ooh.

00:55:54.000 Golovkin with that jab.

00:55:56.000 You think that was the thinking, too?

00:55:57.000 Like, let's make sure people in New York and Jersey and Florida can order this?

00:56:00.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:56:01.000 That's what...

00:56:01.000 Oh, dude.

00:56:03.000 Ooh.

00:56:03.000 This is distracting.

00:56:04.000 Shit.

00:56:05.000 All right.

00:56:05.000 It was a good idea at first, but...

00:56:09.000 He just did that thing, by the way, where he dropped his arms a little bit, too.

00:56:12.000 Yeah.

00:56:15.000 He's boxing him up.

00:56:16.000 He shook his head.

00:56:17.000 As soon as they shake their head no, that means yes.

00:56:22.000 Yeah, does that ever mean the guy isn't hurt when he shakes?

00:56:24.000 No.

00:56:24.000 Because why would you tell him you're not hurt?

00:56:26.000 Well, it does, kind of.

00:56:27.000 Like, you ain't got shit.

00:56:28.000 You could say that a guy, but the problem is when someone actually hits you and really dings you and then you do it, like, never.

00:56:35.000 Well, maybe the no is saying, no, you didn't knock me down.

00:56:38.000 Not this time.

00:56:38.000 Maybe that's what he means.

00:56:40.000 Maybe.

00:56:41.000 It doesn't seem like it.

00:56:42.000 Mostly what it seems like, that didn't hurt.

00:56:45.000 Like, that ain't shit.

00:56:46.000 You didn't get me.

00:56:48.000 No one ever says you didn't knock me down.

00:56:50.000 Yeah.

00:56:50.000 Except in like a Jake LaMotta movie.

00:56:52.000 That was exactly it.

00:56:53.000 Great close up on the rings trying to fucking jabbing that counter right together.

00:56:58.000 These guys are so well matched.

00:57:00.000 Ooh, look at that tight left hook by Triple G. He's hurt.

00:57:04.000 Triple G? No Canelo.

00:57:06.000 You think so?

00:57:06.000 Yeah.

00:57:07.000 What makes you say that?

00:57:08.000 Because he keeps going backwards into the ropes.

00:57:15.000 That body shot that you were talking about, right when that landed, you looked at his eyes, he went, oh shit.

00:57:20.000 You might be right.

00:57:21.000 You might be right.

00:57:22.000 I keep forgetting these are three minute rounds.

00:57:24.000 No, they're weird, right?

00:57:25.000 Yeah, you get into it, you're like, oh fuck the bell.

00:57:27.000 You know what's interesting about that?

00:57:28.000 It's easier to go...

00:57:31.000 Five minutes boxing than it is to go three minutes of wrestling.

00:57:34.000 Yet the UFC is like five minute rounds and boxing is three minute rounds.

00:57:39.000 They just got used to it.

00:57:41.000 But one thing though is if you give a shorter round, there is a good argument for a shorter round.

00:57:46.000 That argument is guys can go faster and harder in three minutes than they can in five because they have to conserve themselves.

00:57:53.000 Right.

00:57:54.000 Do you feel like boxing over the last year is making a comeback?

00:57:58.000 For sure.

00:57:58.000 I think boxing is in a good place right now.

00:58:01.000 It's making a little comeback?

00:58:02.000 Yeah.

00:58:03.000 And it might have something to do with the fact that there's a rivalry going on between UFC and boxing.

00:58:07.000 Like, what sport is better?

00:58:09.000 Yeah.

00:58:09.000 I think it's bringing more attention to boxing by the UFC fans.

00:58:13.000 They're paying attention to boxing because there's this debate.

00:58:16.000 Yeah, maybe.

00:58:16.000 It's a good argument.

00:58:18.000 Maybe the UFC is blowing boxing up.

00:58:20.000 Well, it's also boxing's in a real good place right now.

00:58:23.000 There's so many good fighters.

00:58:25.000 Lomachenko, I mean, these two gentlemen.

00:58:28.000 Could you really do a three-minute round in UFC? I mean, with jiu-jitsu and all that, it just seems like it wouldn't work.

00:58:32.000 What I would think is maybe a five-minute round of boxing would be kind of interesting.

00:58:35.000 But I think they're doing it right, honestly, because I think, you know, you could go hard and fast for three minutes, and maybe it'll ensure a faster pace for the majority of the fight than if you made guys fight five-minute rounds.

00:58:46.000 How often do they give out 10-8 rounds in boxing?

00:58:48.000 When guys get dropped, quite a bit.

00:58:52.000 It's pretty common.

00:58:53.000 It was uncommon for a long time in MMA, but it's more common now.

00:58:57.000 Wow, that was good head movement there by Canelo.

00:58:59.000 That's because of the rule changes, right?

00:59:00.000 Yeah.

00:59:02.000 Canelo avoided most of that.

00:59:04.000 He's good.

00:59:04.000 Really good defense there.

00:59:06.000 His defense is tight.

00:59:08.000 Good movement.

00:59:09.000 Ooh, that's a good right hand to the body.

00:59:15.000 It's just like to get to this level, what's exciting about this fight is that to get to this level, there's so much shit you gotta go through.

00:59:24.000 It's so rare that a guy comes out this good, you know?

00:59:29.000 Like, there's so few of them.

00:59:30.000 It's even rare that you get two of them finally fighting.

00:59:33.000 Yeah, like this.

00:59:34.000 Who else, who are the top pay-per-view boxers?

00:59:37.000 You're looking at it right now, man.

00:59:39.000 Floyd in this?

00:59:39.000 Yeah, Floyd's retired.

00:59:42.000 Manny Pacquiao's not drawing the numbers he used to.

00:59:44.000 In his last fight, he fought and he lost to a schoolteacher.

00:59:48.000 You know, his time is basically done.

00:59:49.000 Where did he go to fight?

00:59:51.000 Australia.

00:59:53.000 What about in the heavyweight division?

00:59:54.000 No pay-per-view there?

00:59:55.000 Well, Anthony Joshua's a huge star in London and in England and probably in Europe and the UK. In America, he's a big star with boxing fans, but sort of like how Triple G's a big star with boxing fans.

01:00:07.000 Canelo's a huge star with actual Mexicans, like, across the board.

01:00:12.000 And maybe you could say that about Anthony Joshua.

01:00:15.000 With England.

01:00:16.000 You know, I'm not in England.

01:00:19.000 Could very well be that...

01:00:21.000 Oh, look at that right hand over the top.

01:00:22.000 He said no.

01:00:23.000 He said no?

01:00:24.000 Uh-uh.

01:00:25.000 I don't know about that.

01:00:26.000 What do you think boxing needs to do to keep the upward trajectory?

01:00:31.000 It's just hard.

01:00:32.000 It's just hard.

01:00:33.000 You got guys like Terrence Crawford.

01:00:35.000 He's a bad motherfucker.

01:00:37.000 You got Lomachenko.

01:00:38.000 You've got some good fighters.

01:00:40.000 You've got Andre Ward, who's one of the best in the world, the boxing light heavyweight champion, who's also the U.S. gold medalist in boxing.

01:00:49.000 He's a beast, man.

01:00:50.000 I think what you got to do is give people the fights that they want and not make them wait for it for two years and three years.

01:00:54.000 Yeah, that's easier said than done.

01:00:56.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:00:56.000 It's hard.

01:00:56.000 It's what helped the UFC, I think, so much.

01:00:58.000 Look at that.

01:00:59.000 And they're shaking their hands at each other.

01:01:01.000 Ooh, this is crazy.

01:01:02.000 Look at that shit.

01:01:03.000 Canelo's winging some shots.

01:01:04.000 He's throwing them hard, man.

01:01:05.000 Ooh!

01:01:07.000 Oh!

01:01:08.000 Maybe he wanted to tie Glovgan out a little bit.

01:01:11.000 Maybe.

01:01:11.000 Glov-a-gin.

01:01:12.000 Glov-a-gin.

01:01:13.000 How do you say it?

01:01:13.000 Glov-a-gin.

01:01:14.000 Glov-a-gin.

01:01:16.000 Glov-a-gin.

01:01:17.000 Ooh, this is a good fight.

01:01:19.000 Ooh, dropped his hands.

01:01:20.000 He got popular jab.

01:01:21.000 The fucking cologne on the back of his pants?

01:01:22.000 Bajun?

01:01:22.000 Bajun or Bajon?

01:01:24.000 Is that what it is?

01:01:24.000 Yeah, that's a cologne.

01:01:25.000 This guy Norman used to wear it in a department store I worked in and he was arrested for stealing.

01:01:29.000 He always smelled good, Norman.

01:01:33.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

01:01:35.000 This smells.

01:01:36.000 Yeah, he smelled great.

01:01:37.000 I was like, what is it?

01:01:37.000 He's like, bajoon.

01:01:38.000 People are weird with their fucking colognes, right?

01:01:41.000 Yeah.

01:01:42.000 I have a whole fucking shelf full of them.

01:01:44.000 Do you?

01:01:44.000 Yeah, I just, I don't know why I like them.

01:01:46.000 It's overcompensation, I think.

01:01:47.000 I used to wear jacar.

01:01:49.000 Oh, God, yeah, it was great.

01:01:50.000 That was like fucking, that was like Guido stuff in like 1988, 1990. You thought you had to wear it to get laid.

01:01:55.000 Yeah.

01:01:56.000 Girls like colognes.

01:01:57.000 Capizios.

01:01:58.000 They like it.

01:01:58.000 For some reason, they love it.

01:02:00.000 They like it.

01:02:00.000 Gotta wear it.

01:02:01.000 Gotta wear what they like.

01:02:02.000 I don't like a girl to wear perfume at all.

01:02:04.000 Like, I really don't like, I like natural.

01:02:06.000 Yeah.

01:02:06.000 I like the fruity smelling, like the sweet perfumes.

01:02:11.000 Look at this.

01:02:12.000 Not the grandma perfume.

01:02:13.000 Oh, son.

01:02:16.000 Yeah, I don't like any, I want it to smell like a fucking gorilla.

01:02:22.000 Canelo shook his head, but that was a bomb that he got hit with.

01:02:26.000 It graved him.

01:02:30.000 It's weird, male perfume.

01:02:32.000 It's weird that we accept that, you know?

01:02:35.000 Oh, look at that right hand!

01:02:37.000 Damn, dude.

01:02:38.000 Golovkin's pouring it on.

01:02:39.000 Oh!

01:02:42.000 Golovkin is landing some shots, man.

01:02:43.000 It's only the sixth round.

01:02:45.000 This is just the sixth round.

01:02:46.000 I don't know.

01:02:47.000 Oh!

01:02:48.000 Canelo's firing back!

01:02:49.000 That's a hard shot to the body.

01:02:50.000 He hurt him to the body.

01:02:52.000 He hurt him to the liver.

01:02:53.000 Oh, and he went back to it.

01:02:55.000 Golovkin's in trouble.

01:02:56.000 He's hurt to the body.

01:02:58.000 He knows it.

01:02:59.000 Yeah, man.

01:03:00.000 He does know it.

01:03:01.000 He hit him with the right hand in the liver.

01:03:02.000 Oh, look at it.

01:03:02.000 He's landing left and right now.

01:03:04.000 Oh, shit!

01:03:05.000 What a turnaround!

01:03:09.000 It's so hard to recover from that liver shot, too.

01:03:11.000 You gotta keep moving.

01:03:14.000 But you're diminished.

01:03:17.000 You ever been hitting the liver, Jim?

01:03:18.000 I know you've had a lot of guys leg kick you and choke you.

01:03:21.000 I don't think anyone's ever purposely punched me in the liver.

01:03:23.000 I've had a lot of things done that were all unpleasant, but they say that's a pretty bad one.

01:03:26.000 It's horrible.

01:03:28.000 And to fact, I'm pretty sure that happened just now to Gennady Golovkin, and you could barely tell watching him fight.

01:03:33.000 Ooh, he got hit in the chest there.

01:03:35.000 Little high.

01:03:38.000 Ooh, this is a good fight.

01:03:40.000 It's so back and forth.

01:03:41.000 Yeah.

01:03:42.000 I punched a guy in the liver in the fourth grade, didn't do shit.

01:03:46.000 Yeah, you gotta work on your technique, son.

01:03:49.000 The fourth grade means you were nine.

01:03:52.000 Are you sure you actually hit the liver?

01:03:54.000 Fuck that.

01:03:56.000 Totally, bro.

01:03:58.000 Crushed it.

01:03:58.000 It's a horrible thing to kick.

01:04:01.000 I think it's a mental liver.

01:04:03.000 Need to deliver might be the worst.

01:04:05.000 That's one of the worst.

01:04:07.000 Need to deliver is horrifying.

01:04:10.000 Ronda Rousey was so good at that.

01:04:12.000 She would tie girls up in that judo clinch and then just knee the fuck out of their body.

01:04:17.000 It was ruthless.

01:04:19.000 Because she was so good at the upper body control.

01:04:23.000 She could tie you up so well from judo.

01:04:25.000 Oh, Gennady Kolovian with the right hand of the body.

01:04:28.000 She would just get a hold of girls and then she started fucking nuking them with knees to the body.

01:04:33.000 She did that to Sarah McMahon.

01:04:37.000 God damn, this is good.

01:04:38.000 Yeah, this is really...

01:04:39.000 So tense, right?

01:04:41.000 Like anything can happen here.

01:04:42.000 Fortunes can change.

01:04:43.000 The drop of a hat!

01:04:46.000 Woo!

01:04:48.000 Canelo is firing him, huh?

01:04:53.000 Both these guys do it.

01:04:54.000 49 of 44 power punches.

01:04:56.000 God damn it, that is so insane.

01:04:58.000 In favor of Golovkin.

01:04:59.000 Is Ronda coming back, you think?

01:05:00.000 I don't think so.

01:05:01.000 She's going to wrestling, I think.

01:05:01.000 You think it's over?

01:05:02.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:05:03.000 I don't think she wants to do it anymore.

01:05:07.000 For whatever reason, you could break that down psychologically all day.

01:05:11.000 Matt Serra had a great line that I never forgot.

01:05:15.000 He said a long time ago that everybody likes to be the hammer, but nobody wants to be the nail.

01:05:24.000 If you're the nail, can you come back?

01:05:27.000 Yeah, and there's always going to be fighters out there that you can't take down and you're going to be forced to stand.

01:05:33.000 Sure.

01:05:33.000 And the level of striking right now with the girls is at an all-time high.

01:05:37.000 And if you ain't on top of your striking, even if you get really good, it's still Russian roulette.

01:05:42.000 These girls are savages.

01:05:43.000 So many of them are so good.

01:05:45.000 Like Shevchenko and Amanda Nunes.

01:05:48.000 Dangerous.

01:05:50.000 What are you going to do if you can't take the person down?

01:05:53.000 You have to strike.

01:05:54.000 And then it becomes a kickboxing battle.

01:05:56.000 How good is your kickboxing?

01:05:57.000 A kickboxing battle where you hope and pray that something goes wrong and you get it to the ground.

01:06:01.000 Hey, you know what?

01:06:01.000 Ronda has good striking.

01:06:03.000 It's not terrible.

01:06:04.000 But even if it was great, there's a lot of great strikers out there.

01:06:08.000 So at the end of the day, you're going to be forced to win a kickboxing tournament.

01:06:13.000 At the very top.

01:06:14.000 It's gonna be very hard.

01:06:15.000 She didn't wrestle her whole life.

01:06:16.000 She's doing judo at an Olympic level.

01:06:18.000 She has great takedowns.

01:06:20.000 She was able to ragdoll most of her opponents.

01:06:23.000 But right now, man, it's gonna be very hard for her to take these girls down right now.

01:06:27.000 She's gonna be forced to strike.

01:06:28.000 So then it becomes, you know, she could win some, she could lose some.

01:06:32.000 How many people did she beat that were strikers as good as Holly Holm or Amanda Nunes?

01:06:36.000 None.

01:06:37.000 None of them were as good as her.

01:06:38.000 The only one who was close was Kat Zingano, and she caught Kat really quick.

01:06:42.000 The first round, right?

01:06:43.000 Yeah, with an arm bar.

01:06:44.000 Kat just charged at her and got caught with an arm bar.

01:06:46.000 Yeah, I think Rhonda said, I think Kat deserved better.

01:06:49.000 She knew that that was just kind of a fluke.

01:06:51.000 You know what Kat said?

01:06:52.000 The reason why she charged at her like that is because she took a furious beating in that Amanda Nunes fight.

01:06:58.000 She won the fight, but she got fucked up in that first round, like real bad.

01:07:02.000 And she's like, I didn't want to go through that again.

01:07:04.000 She goes, I just want to charge at her and get a hold of her.

01:07:09.000 Imagine if Ronda Rousey decided to, on the girl she couldn't throw or take down, plan B is flying guard pull.

01:07:17.000 She had the guard for it.

01:07:18.000 She has an amazing guard, amazing arm bar from the guard.

01:07:21.000 Her plan should have been, in my opinion, to get the fight to the ground, try to be on top, try to use your judo.

01:07:27.000 If that didn't work, we have to go to pull and guard.

01:07:29.000 The problem with someone like Amanda Nunes is that's not going to happen.

01:07:33.000 You don't think she can pull guard on Amanda Nunes?

01:07:35.000 No.

01:07:35.000 You can pull guard on anybody.

01:07:36.000 I think you're going to get eaten up with punches when you try to get close.

01:07:39.000 Amanda's got some long ass arms.

01:07:40.000 In order to pull guard, you've got to pull off a legit shot to get them to react, to get them to sprawl.

01:07:47.000 And that's when you pull guard.

01:07:48.000 When you're under them and they sprawl, you time it perfect.

01:07:51.000 It's a technique.

01:07:52.000 It's just like a takedown.

01:07:53.000 Was that the biggest problem of Ronda?

01:07:55.000 Her game was all upper body.

01:07:56.000 But her guard is amazing.

01:07:57.000 Her guard's amazing.

01:07:59.000 Just like in that fight with Sergio Mirai, he was on his back, hurt, and his opponent wouldn't get on top of him.

01:08:06.000 Let's pay attention to this, because some shit is happening here.

01:08:10.000 Golovkin cracked him.

01:08:14.000 We're still going to be able to watch the Rockhold fight, too.

01:08:17.000 Ooh, so exciting.

01:08:19.000 Yeah, it's only 8.30.

01:08:21.000 This fight's nuts, man.

01:08:27.000 He's really impressive off the ropes, too.

01:08:29.000 Golovkin?

01:08:30.000 No, Alvarez.

01:08:31.000 Oh, yeah.

01:08:31.000 Well, he's impressive everywhere.

01:08:33.000 They both are.

01:08:33.000 I mean, these are two legit world champions.

01:08:36.000 That's why this is so exciting.

01:08:37.000 I haven't seen Golovkin on the ropes much at all this fight.

01:08:41.000 No, because he's been taking it, too, Canelo.

01:08:44.000 And that's his style.

01:08:45.000 And that's what's so interesting about this setup, is that everybody knew that Canelo's a really good counterpuncher.

01:08:53.000 I just got real good timing.

01:08:54.000 He just seems a bit too small.

01:08:57.000 Canelo?

01:08:57.000 Yeah.

01:08:58.000 Really?

01:08:59.000 There's a size difference, man.

01:09:00.000 There's definitely a size difference, but he's thick.

01:09:02.000 You know, I just think, frame-wise, I think you're right.

01:09:07.000 But I think the money is where he's at, you know?

01:09:10.000 I mean, I think this fight is a big, big money fight.

01:09:13.000 I don't know how many good fights there are for him at 54, what big names there are.

01:09:19.000 I think he struggles to make that weight, too.

01:09:23.000 Who, Globgen?

01:09:24.000 No, Canelo.

01:09:26.000 I think he struggles even to make 60. And this is at what?

01:09:29.000 This is 60. I think 154 is a real struggle for him.

01:09:33.000 Because Mayweather got him down to 152. Mayweather's so smart.

01:09:39.000 Lose a little bit more weight.

01:09:40.000 We'll talk.

01:09:41.000 A little more weight.

01:09:42.000 Just a little more weight.

01:09:45.000 And the thing about Conor, like what he did to Conor is very smart too.

01:09:49.000 Which was just make him fight, make him work, get him tired, and then start putting it to him.

01:09:56.000 Just start piling it up, wearing him out, piling it up, wearing him out.

01:10:00.000 Yeah, when you saw Mayweather unloading, you're like, oh yeah, that's right.

01:10:02.000 Yeah, he's fucking Floyd Mayweather.

01:10:04.000 He's one of, if not the best boxer ever.

01:10:07.000 And Conor did catch him with a couple things.

01:10:10.000 Ooh, look at that jab.

01:10:11.000 Son...

01:10:12.000 Oh no.

01:10:13.000 HBO paper you went blank for a second there.

01:10:16.000 They all panicked.

01:10:17.000 Can you imagine?

01:10:19.000 Let's see.

01:10:20.000 What do you think here?

01:10:24.000 He's definitely losing the rounds, but he is fighting back.

01:10:27.000 He's putting up a good fight.

01:10:28.000 So you think Canelo's losing?

01:10:29.000 Oh, yeah.

01:10:30.000 Yeah, he's got like 19 more headshots for Golovkin.

01:10:34.000 Yeah, they have Golovkin ahead three points, 65 to 68. But the thing is, it looks like Golovkin is trying to put him away.

01:10:41.000 He's not just content to beat him.

01:10:43.000 He's putting massive pressure on him here.

01:10:46.000 You know, I mean, and you saw Canelo take a big deep breath.

01:10:49.000 And as we get into the 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, Canelo fades a little.

01:10:53.000 He fades a little.

01:10:54.000 He throws hard power shots.

01:10:56.000 And I know he keeps working hard on his conditioning and he works harder than anybody, but it's just that style is exhausting.

01:11:03.000 Well, plus Golovkin wants to put him away because he hears people talking about his age too.

01:11:06.000 I mean, you know, everyone's saying, does he have it anymore?

01:11:09.000 Is he slowing down?

01:11:10.000 Yeah, that's the consensus.

01:11:11.000 Oh, good shots to the body.

01:11:12.000 Good shots to the body by Canelo.

01:11:18.000 He might have hurt him again.

01:11:19.000 He might have hurt him again to the body.

01:11:20.000 Golovkin's not firing at him, see?

01:11:23.000 Ooh!

01:11:24.000 He's catching his breath.

01:11:26.000 Yeah, he got ripped to the body, dude.

01:11:27.000 Another one right there.

01:11:28.000 Dude.

01:11:31.000 This is such a good fight!

01:11:33.000 This fight, if every boxing match was like this, boxing would be huge.

01:11:37.000 The thing that's genius about Mayweather is he managed to never be in one of these.

01:11:42.000 Yeah, he really did avoid everything.

01:11:43.000 He avoided all of it.

01:11:44.000 He never got beat up.

01:11:46.000 He only got hit clean like seven times, eight times his whole career.

01:11:50.000 And he's made the most money.

01:11:51.000 Made way more than anybody else combined.

01:11:54.000 Like double or triple at least, right?

01:11:55.000 Oh, yeah.

01:11:56.000 I mean, he's for sure the number one moneymaker ever.

01:11:59.000 Oh, without a doubt, yeah.

01:12:00.000 Didn't this put him into a billionaire category?

01:12:02.000 In the neighborhood, you know, who knows exactly what the deal is, but, dude, they got 6.25-something million pay-per-views.

01:12:11.000 That's insane.

01:12:12.000 I wonder what he's saving up for.

01:12:13.000 I wonder what he wants that he doesn't quite have enough money.

01:12:16.000 He's just balling.

01:12:16.000 He's balling out of control.

01:12:17.000 Doesn't he owe taxes, too?

01:12:18.000 I think he owes money, too.

01:12:19.000 He owed a little bit before this fight, but...

01:12:21.000 He might buy a basketball team or something.

01:12:23.000 Oh, look at that uppercut.

01:12:24.000 The big thing is him not going too crazy and spending it all and blowing it all.

01:12:29.000 He's smart.

01:12:29.000 He doesn't seem like a dude.

01:12:31.000 I think they have one more fight.

01:12:32.000 I mean, he does buy mansions and shit and all sorts of Rolls Royces, but...

01:12:35.000 Well, you know, when he got...

01:12:37.000 Quality cars.

01:12:38.000 He was, like, way deep in the tax.

01:12:41.000 Oh, he got caught with an uppercut.

01:12:42.000 Nice uppercut by Canelo.

01:12:44.000 He was definitely like in big tax trouble before we got bailed out with a fight in the past.

01:12:49.000 You think they rematch?

01:12:50.000 I think they rematch.

01:12:51.000 They should.

01:12:52.000 Why not?

01:12:53.000 I think Conor would have to beat somebody good in a boxing match.

01:12:58.000 And he would also have to have a real training camp.

01:13:02.000 I think boxing's over for Conor.

01:13:04.000 Oh, I don't think so.

01:13:05.000 There's one more fight like that?

01:13:07.000 Because people will buy it now, because Conor went to the 10th round, he got fatigued.

01:13:10.000 There's still a motive for people to buy it.

01:13:12.000 Yeah, I mean, look, he went the very first fight against the greatest ever.

01:13:17.000 There's so many big fights in MMA. You're right.

01:13:20.000 There's so many fights.

01:13:20.000 You're right.

01:13:21.000 There's that too.

01:13:22.000 But the thing is, if there's a legit big fight, like say if Canelo Alvarez steps up and says that he wants to fight Conor McGregor...

01:13:34.000 I don't think Conor will do it.

01:13:35.000 He might.

01:13:36.000 It wouldn't be a smart move.

01:13:38.000 I think Conor maybe realized you gotta specialize.

01:13:41.000 You can't do both.

01:13:43.000 Especially the difference between Canelo and Floyd.

01:13:46.000 Floyd was just a brilliant boxer.

01:13:48.000 Canelo's a murderous puncher and he'll fuck you up.

01:13:51.000 He'll hurt you.

01:13:53.000 There's also a promotional difference too.

01:13:54.000 Conor and Floyd are pretty much, they're very similar guys and they both understood what they were doing promotion wise.

01:14:00.000 I don't know if Canelo is that guy.

01:14:02.000 Well, he's not going to promote it that way, but he's got...

01:14:04.000 Oh, look at that uppercut.

01:14:05.000 That shit's genius.

01:14:08.000 He's got the support of the American people.

01:14:10.000 What about Glovkin versus McGregor?

01:14:15.000 Ooh, look at that uppercut.

01:14:16.000 He would do it.

01:14:17.000 I don't know if McGregor would take that fight.

01:14:20.000 No, that's not a good fight for him, either.

01:14:22.000 Neither Canelo or Golovkin's a good fight for him.

01:14:25.000 It's a terrible fight for him.

01:14:26.000 Those guys are different.

01:14:28.000 They're this, you know?

01:14:30.000 Like, look at the way these guys fight.

01:14:32.000 Especially, this is how Golovkin fights every fight.

01:14:35.000 I bring big drama show!

01:14:38.000 That's what he calls it.

01:14:44.000 Dude.

01:14:46.000 I mean, this is one of those fights we're going to be looking back on someday.

01:14:49.000 Look at those shots of the body by Canelo.

01:14:52.000 This is one of those fights that we're going to look back on and go, you remember when we watched that fucking fight?

01:14:57.000 Holy shit.

01:14:58.000 He just shook his head on him.

01:15:01.000 Golovkin's putting tremendous pressure on him.

01:15:03.000 He's trying to break him.

01:15:06.000 Yeah, he's keeping him against the ropes for 80% of the fight.

01:15:09.000 It's not just that.

01:15:10.000 It's the pace that he's fighting at.

01:15:11.000 He's trying to make him wither.

01:15:13.000 He sees something.

01:15:15.000 You think he sees him fading?

01:15:16.000 Yeah, he sees him trying to catch some breaks.

01:15:18.000 He's still super dangerous, but Golovkin catches...

01:15:22.000 He's seeing Canelo trying to catch his breath.

01:15:25.000 Yeah, he was splayed out on the seat in between rounds.

01:15:28.000 His feet were all out.

01:15:28.000 Yeah, see, if I know this, and I don't know that much about boxing, I know that Canelo has what people think of as an endurance problem.

01:15:36.000 And it's not, you know, it's not a big mystery.

01:15:40.000 He just kind of fades a little bit.

01:15:42.000 Ooh, he just got tagged.

01:15:43.000 He just got tagged.

01:15:44.000 He might get fu- Oh my god!

01:15:45.000 He comes back with a big right hand!

01:15:48.000 It's not that he doesn't work hard.

01:15:50.000 It's just that his style is just so explosive and he's got so much muscle that he carries around.

01:15:55.000 That style requires you to be in fucking sensational shape.

01:15:59.000 Does it mean anything that he's a counter puncher because they're always getting hit first so you gotta take a little bit more too?

01:16:04.000 No, not necessarily.

01:16:05.000 His defense is outstanding.

01:16:06.000 Look at that.

01:16:07.000 Look how good he ducked under that right hand.

01:16:09.000 His defense is amazing.

01:16:10.000 It's just like he's never been hit like this before.

01:16:12.000 And not with a guy like Golovkin who's just putting it to him.

01:16:15.000 He's been hit by a guy like Floyd who just caught him with good, clean scoring shots, snapped his head back a couple of times, but nothing like this.

01:16:24.000 Not like a mule kicking you in the face.

01:16:26.000 This is a different thing because Golovkin is trying to break him.

01:16:29.000 He's not just trying to win.

01:16:30.000 He's putting himself in danger.

01:16:32.000 He's putting himself in danger to prove that he's the best.

01:16:36.000 And that's a different thing.

01:16:37.000 That's a different kind of person.

01:16:39.000 He's not making the kind of money that these guys are making.

01:16:41.000 He's hungry as fuck.

01:16:43.000 See that uppercut?

01:16:43.000 Ooh, baby!

01:16:45.000 And again, he's not making the kind of superstar money that he just saw Conor and Floyd make.

01:16:50.000 And the only way that he can make it is to bring big drama show.

01:16:55.000 And so he's just coming for death.

01:16:57.000 What's he getting for this fight?

01:16:58.000 Who knows?

01:16:59.000 I think it's probably depending upon the pay-per-view sales.

01:17:02.000 Yeah, I literally have no scale for what these guys make.

01:17:04.000 I have no clue.

01:17:06.000 A million?

01:17:07.000 He's got to make at least a couple million.

01:17:08.000 Canelo works millions.

01:17:09.000 Canelo is a superstar.

01:17:10.000 He's going to sell...

01:17:11.000 I mean, he would sell fucking a million pay-per-views if he was fighting an Uber driver.

01:17:17.000 And I'm not joking.

01:17:19.000 Ooh!

01:17:22.000 So he's a bigger draw than Golovkin.

01:17:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:17:25.000 Canelo's getting five, GGG is getting three.

01:17:28.000 Nice.

01:17:29.000 That's amazing, he's getting two million more?

01:17:31.000 No.

01:17:32.000 If you know how famous he is, it makes sense.

01:17:34.000 Yeah.

01:17:34.000 He's huge.

01:17:36.000 Like, that guy goes, Viva Mexico, and the fucking roof almost falls off.

01:17:41.000 I'll tell you what, man.

01:17:43.000 Mexicans and Irish.

01:17:45.000 They make you reconsider the idea of patriotism.

01:17:48.000 Very, very proud people.

01:17:49.000 Like, when you hear the Irish people that were in town in Vegas when Conor was fighting, you ever see that video of Mandalay Bay?

01:17:56.000 The whole Mandalay Bay, which the fight wasn't even there, okay?

01:17:59.000 The whole Mandalay Bay filled, I mean, to where you couldn't walk with Irish people, and they're all singing together.

01:18:05.000 Yeah.

01:18:06.000 It was insane.

01:18:07.000 And that wasn't even where the fight was being held.

01:18:09.000 We saw them at the garden outside in November.

01:18:11.000 It was fucking...

01:18:11.000 I was with Matt Serra.

01:18:12.000 It was freezing outside.

01:18:13.000 These maniacs have short-sleeved shirts and tank tops.

01:18:15.000 Damn.

01:18:16.000 Yeah, didn't we walk to the garden together?

01:18:18.000 We walked there, too.

01:18:19.000 Leaving the garden, it was freezing that night.

01:18:22.000 Yeah.

01:18:23.000 That's right.

01:18:23.000 There was protests in front of Trump's apartment.

01:18:25.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:18:26.000 How fun was that?

01:18:27.000 It was awesome.

01:18:28.000 We had a walk.

01:18:29.000 Little Jimmy, me, and Cam.

01:18:32.000 And weren't you there?

01:18:33.000 Young Jamie was there.

01:18:34.000 Was Tony there, too?

01:18:35.000 Brendan, mischief maker, was there.

01:18:39.000 Look at that.

01:18:40.000 Oof!

01:18:43.000 Oof!

01:18:45.000 Oof!

01:18:47.000 Goddamn, look at that left to the body and that right over the top.

01:18:50.000 Holy shit, what a fight this is.

01:18:53.000 But we had to walk because there were so many people protesting Trump.

01:18:58.000 Oh, he stunned him!

01:18:59.000 Who got hurt?

01:19:00.000 Golovkin got hurt.

01:19:02.000 He stumbled.

01:19:03.000 Woo!

01:19:05.000 Canelo hit him with something.

01:19:07.000 Oh, look at that jab!

01:19:08.000 Oh my goodness!

01:19:10.000 He caught him again.

01:19:13.000 Oh my god, this is a fight.

01:19:14.000 This fire's back.

01:19:15.000 This is a fucking fight.

01:19:17.000 And this is the 10th round, kids.

01:19:19.000 Oh my god, this is amazing.

01:19:20.000 And the ref hardly ever has to pull them apart.

01:19:23.000 Oh my god, no.

01:19:24.000 These guys are going for blood.

01:19:26.000 Golovkin is a fucking savage, man.

01:19:29.000 Savage.

01:19:30.000 He's got like 82% Genghis Khan blood.

01:19:34.000 Right?

01:19:34.000 If you had a guess.

01:19:37.000 You're right.

01:19:38.000 The ref is a good point.

01:19:38.000 The ref is not stepping in that much.

01:19:40.000 He hasn't had a chance.

01:19:41.000 He has no need to.

01:19:42.000 This is a war.

01:19:44.000 Especially the way Golovkin fights, man.

01:19:45.000 What a pace he puts on you.

01:19:47.000 You just don't get a chance to breathe.

01:19:49.000 He's just on you.

01:19:51.000 Like he stays in a phone booth no matter what.

01:19:54.000 And there's no breaks.

01:19:55.000 He pops a jab.

01:19:56.000 You step back.

01:19:57.000 You're right back on you.

01:19:58.000 Look at this.

01:20:00.000 He's just right back on him, constantly.

01:20:02.000 Look at this pressure, right hand.

01:20:04.000 You gotta understand how terrifying this is when you're fighting a guy like this.

01:20:08.000 That doesn't get tired, continues to push on you, and that's why Canelo has to take some breaks.

01:20:13.000 Yeah, then you start just trying to get out of his way.

01:20:15.000 He doesn't really want to be up against the ropes like this.

01:20:18.000 He has to fight like this.

01:20:19.000 He really doesn't have the energy to just meet him in the center and go kablooey at each other.

01:20:25.000 So Golovkin's pressure and constant forward movement, that's a big factor here.

01:20:31.000 He's controlling where this fight takes place.

01:20:33.000 That's another weapon.

01:20:34.000 Yeah, it's ring generalship.

01:20:36.000 He's completely controlling where the fight takes place.

01:20:38.000 And he's showing much more desire to win.

01:20:41.000 He's trying to stop Canelo.

01:20:44.000 Canelo's trying to catch Golovkin as he's trying to stop him.

01:20:47.000 There's two very different things happening here.

01:20:50.000 Doesn't mean that Canelo can't still put the lights out on him, but what's way more impressive is what Golovkin's doing.

01:20:55.000 He's just swarming them, man.

01:20:58.000 And see, Canelo grabs him after that.

01:21:00.000 See that?

01:21:01.000 That's right.

01:21:01.000 He throws that shot and then he grabs him.

01:21:03.000 It's because he's wilting.

01:21:04.000 See how his legs just give out there?

01:21:06.000 Dude, he's wilting.

01:21:07.000 He is.

01:21:07.000 He's getting fucked up.

01:21:08.000 He can still come back hard because he's a fucking animal and he's a world champion, but the bottom line is he's starting to fade.

01:21:16.000 We're in the 10th round.

01:21:17.000 This shit's getting weird.

01:21:18.000 Look at that.

01:21:20.000 He's still got some good head movement, though, I'll tell you that.

01:21:23.000 That was nice.

01:21:23.000 The cardio is incredible.

01:21:25.000 Tremendous fight.

01:21:26.000 Incredible.

01:21:26.000 Tremendous.

01:21:27.000 Golovkin's cardio...

01:21:28.000 Well, Golovkin's another Big Bear guy.

01:21:30.000 Is he?

01:21:30.000 Yes, he is.

01:21:31.000 What's a Big Bear guy?

01:21:32.000 Goes to Big Bear to train.

01:21:34.000 Same as El Cocuy.

01:21:35.000 Tony's a savage dude.

01:21:37.000 I've watched that guy train for six hours straight, dude.

01:21:39.000 Tony Ferguson.

01:21:40.000 His cardio is fucking through the roof, man.

01:21:43.000 Through the roof.

01:21:44.000 He's an animal.

01:21:44.000 You should see the shit we're doing up there.

01:21:46.000 Crazy, crazy shit.

01:21:46.000 Don't you love Big Bear, man?

01:21:47.000 Isn't it peaceful up there?

01:21:49.000 It's cool.

01:21:50.000 What do you do up there?

01:21:51.000 Just run?

01:21:52.000 You work out there at a very high altitude.

01:21:54.000 Low oxygen content in the air.

01:21:57.000 They say, Eddie, honestly, the best thing to do is not to train up there.

01:22:00.000 They say the best thing to do is to live up there and to train, like, down.

01:22:04.000 Like, to go down to, like, sea level.

01:22:07.000 Like, drive an hour.

01:22:07.000 Go down to sea level.

01:22:09.000 Train there and then go do everything else up top because your body will adapt because the altitude, especially when you're sleeping up there, but you'll have more work output.

01:22:19.000 You'll get more work in with your body at sea level.

01:22:24.000 What do I know?

01:22:25.000 I'm not a scientist, son.

01:22:27.000 Dude, Tony don't need more work, dude.

01:22:29.000 Tony goes forever.

01:22:30.000 No, I'm sure, but I mean, he could be even better is what I'm saying.

01:22:32.000 I just think that that's what the science is.

01:22:35.000 I mean, it doesn't mean anything.

01:22:36.000 Tony's obviously adapted to Big Bear well.

01:22:38.000 Fuck.

01:22:39.000 That's such a good fight, man.

01:22:41.000 Such a good fight.

01:22:42.000 Kevin Lee?

01:22:43.000 Yeah, such a good fight.

01:22:44.000 Hell yeah, it's gonna be great.

01:22:45.000 Kevin Lee is a serious threat, you know?

01:22:49.000 Tony's not taking him lightly.

01:22:50.000 Very serious threat.

01:22:51.000 They're both very serious threats.

01:22:52.000 But if you look at their opponents, Tony's been through some, you know, he fucked up Edson Barbosa, Josh Thompson, Rafael Dos Anjos.

01:23:02.000 Those are big names, big, giant fights.

01:23:04.000 The Dos Anjos one was very fucking impressive.

01:23:07.000 Very impressive.

01:23:09.000 That was an incredibly impressive fight.

01:23:11.000 And then the other one that was really impressive to me was the Barbosa fight, because Barbosa's stand-up is top of the food chain.

01:23:18.000 And Tony was cracking him and then finished him in a crazy bloody darse.

01:23:23.000 Wasn't that all bloody and everything on that darse?

01:23:25.000 Yep.

01:23:26.000 Yep.

01:23:27.000 And Edson Barbosa is considered probably top three most dangerous strikers in the UFC. Oh, yeah.

01:23:33.000 That guy will light you up with wheel kicks, head kicks.

01:23:35.000 Everything.

01:23:35.000 He's so fast.

01:23:36.000 He's so powerful.

01:23:37.000 He has the first wheel kick KO in the UFC. You know, in the highlight, you could see Ari Shafir in the background going like this.

01:23:46.000 As he gets hit and cracked, he hits Terry Edom with this crazy wheel kick.

01:23:51.000 It was the first wheel kick KO in the UFC, and it was the perfect one.

01:23:55.000 Why did Aldo stop?

01:23:56.000 It seemed like Aldo, and I noticed it in the Frankie Edgar fight, really stopped kicking or throws a lot less.

01:24:00.000 Does he hurt?

01:24:01.000 Oh!

01:24:01.000 Good question.

01:24:02.000 It's a very good question.

01:24:03.000 It could be because he's got injuries that don't allow him to kick anymore.

01:24:07.000 It could be that it's easier for guys to take him down when he kicks.

01:24:10.000 You'd have to talk to him.

01:24:11.000 I'd like to talk to him.

01:24:13.000 But he didn't use it very much on Max Holloway, but if you go back to the Uriah Faber fight, it was like his biggest weapon.

01:24:19.000 Yeah, but I noticed against Frank Yegum, he's not throwing a lot of kicks, and I wondered why.

01:24:22.000 I thought Frankie was probably trying to time those kicks in the rematch.

01:24:25.000 That made total sense to me.

01:24:27.000 What didn't make sense is how he didn't use them that much against Max.

01:24:30.000 But, you know, Max is a motherfucker, man.

01:24:32.000 Well, he's saying he wants to box now with Jose Aldo.

01:24:34.000 Yeah, I've heard that, but that doesn't take away from the fact that in an MMA fight, his kicks are one of the most deadly weapons in the sport.

01:24:42.000 In his prime, man, he was so fucking good.

01:24:44.000 But like everyone, it's just like they reach a time.

01:24:47.000 Oh!

01:24:48.000 Golovkin caught him with a right hand!

01:24:50.000 Ooh!

01:24:51.000 This is a crazy, crazy fight, man.

01:24:57.000 Like, you usually don't get these fights.

01:24:59.000 96-95 Golovkin power punches landed.

01:25:02.000 Wow.

01:25:02.000 That's incredible.

01:25:04.000 These guys are just battering each other.

01:25:07.000 Oh, the good left hook, too.

01:25:11.000 You know, Golovkin, I mean Canelo rather, is absolutely a champion and that's the reason why he keeps firing back and he won't wilt.

01:25:18.000 And he keeps using good head movement, but there's no doubt about Golovkin's putting it on him.

01:25:23.000 One more round.

01:25:25.000 So exciting, and then we get to go to see David Branch and Luke Rockhold.

01:25:30.000 How are we so lucky?

01:25:32.000 Look at this, some Jesus shit going on.

01:25:34.000 Yeah, I don't know what that is.

01:25:34.000 That's gotta be a relative.

01:25:35.000 Who is that?

01:25:36.000 Is that Canelo's mom or something?

01:25:39.000 She was like, this is, got that moment, come to Jesus moment.

01:25:47.000 Um, Del Sanjos looks so much better at 170, doesn't he?

01:25:50.000 I missed that fight, but he did get an arm trying.

01:25:52.000 I saw the finish.

01:25:53.000 Put the smash on Neil Magny.

01:25:56.000 Put the smash on.

01:25:57.000 That's a big win.

01:25:57.000 You want to talk about how big his legs looked?

01:25:59.000 That's a big win.

01:25:59.000 Giant.

01:25:59.000 He just looked massive.

01:26:01.000 Yeah, well, he's filled in.

01:26:02.000 This is what his body's supposed to look like.

01:26:03.000 He was starving himself.

01:26:05.000 Terrible idea.

01:26:06.000 I mean, he was a beast at 155. I mean, he was smashing guys and running them over, but he got to a point where he really could not make the weight anymore.

01:26:13.000 I mean, he was in real bad shape when he made the weight for Eddie Alvarez.

01:26:17.000 He's thick, man.

01:26:18.000 He's a thick dude.

01:26:20.000 And at 170, I mean, he's a fucking animal.

01:26:22.000 He kicked Neil Magny's legs out from under him, and then he got on top of him and just put the smush on him.

01:26:29.000 It was just so high level.

01:26:30.000 How did he get him down?

01:26:32.000 He got him down with a kick.

01:26:33.000 Kicked his fucking leg out from under him.

01:26:35.000 And then jumped on him?

01:26:36.000 Yeah, just jumped on him.

01:26:38.000 Dude, it was a beating.

01:26:40.000 Maybe Canelo's going for it.

01:26:41.000 He has to know he needs a knockout.

01:26:42.000 Yeah, he's got to know.

01:26:45.000 12th round.

01:26:49.000 Ooh, behind the ear, in the clinch.

01:26:58.000 Ooh, look at that uppercut.

01:26:59.000 In the clinch, pulling the head down.

01:27:01.000 Going MMA on him.

01:27:02.000 That jab of fucking Golovkin.

01:27:05.000 So slick.

01:27:06.000 Ooh, Canelo!

01:27:08.000 Canelo with the bottom!

01:27:09.000 Oh, shit!

01:27:10.000 Oh, Canelo with the combo!

01:27:15.000 Golovkin caught him with a left hook.

01:27:19.000 Goddamn Golovkin has a chin, man.

01:27:21.000 Let me tell you that.

01:27:23.000 An unbelievable chin.

01:27:24.000 I mean, he took some- Oh shit!

01:27:26.000 Oh shit!

01:27:28.000 Oh shit!

01:27:29.000 What a crazy fight!

01:27:31.000 This is amazing.

01:27:31.000 Oh my god, this is amazing!

01:27:33.000 Oh, and Canelo landed a right hand!

01:27:36.000 This is a crazy fight!

01:27:39.000 Holy shit!

01:27:40.000 Look at that jab.

01:27:41.000 Popped right out of the jab.

01:27:42.000 And the right hand real tight in the clinch.

01:27:44.000 Constant pressure, a minute thirty to go.

01:27:47.000 Does he take over?

01:27:48.000 Does he take over?

01:27:50.000 Does Canelo have enough to sustain?

01:27:53.000 Arms down.

01:27:55.000 Swinging and missing.

01:27:56.000 Trying to catch some blood in there.

01:27:58.000 Throwing some punches that just don't have the steam on him anymore.

01:28:01.000 And Golovkin...

01:28:02.000 And Golovkin has to know he's ahead and he's still coming after him.

01:28:04.000 Yeah, he's a fucking spider, dude.

01:28:06.000 He's like a spider trying to suck the blood out of a fly.

01:28:10.000 Just on you.

01:28:11.000 Like, almost like...

01:28:12.000 Just so predator-like.

01:28:16.000 Just constantly.

01:28:17.000 Look, he's not backing off.

01:28:18.000 He's not boxing.

01:28:20.000 This is not a boxing match.

01:28:22.000 He's trying to fuck him up.

01:28:24.000 That's the Golovkin style that makes him so exciting, man.

01:28:27.000 That's why Mexican fighters love him.

01:28:29.000 They do, right?

01:28:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:28:31.000 Mexican fight fans are big Triple G fans.

01:28:34.000 To the point where his last fight he goes, Ah, muchos gracias!

01:28:39.000 He knows, man, because he fights like a world-class, top-of-the-food-chain Mexican boxer in a lot of ways.

01:28:48.000 God damn, he's good.

01:28:50.000 This is fucking fantastic.

01:28:52.000 Yeah, those are just hitting the gloves.

01:28:53.000 Yeah, Canelo's tired, man.

01:28:55.000 He's real tired.

01:28:55.000 There's still 20-something to go.

01:28:58.000 But he's still hanging in there, man.

01:29:00.000 That's that world champion heart.

01:29:01.000 Still swinging.

01:29:04.000 It doesn't get any better than this for boxing Especially like after the Conor McGregor Floyd Mayweather fight.

01:29:10.000 This is a fight like hey This is how it's done.

01:29:12.000 Yeah, this is the real deal I mean obviously Floyd did it how it's supposed to be done, but that wasn't two fighters on the same level.

01:29:19.000 Look at this.

01:29:19.000 This is crazy These were That's absolutely Golovkin's fight.

01:29:24.000 These are both great moments for boxing, though.

01:29:26.000 Mayweather McGregor and this are both really, really great for boxing.

01:29:29.000 Brendan Schaub, I should say this before the decision gets announced, said that if Golovkin didn't win by some ungodly, lopsided beatdown, that he could lose a decision because of corruption.

01:29:43.000 He goes, because that's how boxing rolls, and there's way more money in Canelo winning.

01:29:47.000 So that said, now that we know that...

01:29:49.000 Tecate sponsor.

01:29:51.000 That's true.

01:29:52.000 Well, apparently the audience is like half Mexican.

01:29:55.000 He's a superstar in Mexico.

01:29:57.000 Just a superstar.

01:29:58.000 Who are you talking about?

01:29:59.000 Canelo.

01:29:59.000 So let's see if Brendan Schaub predicted this correctly, because we think...

01:30:03.000 It has to be Golovkin.

01:30:04.000 The unofficial scorecard guy had it for Golovkin by several rounds.

01:30:09.000 We think it was Golovkin, clearly, although Canelo fought a great fight.

01:30:14.000 Have there been bad decisions?

01:30:15.000 If Canelo wins, have there...

01:30:17.000 When was the last time there was a decision like that?

01:30:19.000 Tim Bradley, Manny Pacquiao.

01:30:21.000 Who won that?

01:30:22.000 I believe Bradley won, but Pacquiao should have won.

01:30:25.000 And then Pacquiao came back and outboxed him.

01:30:27.000 It was worse.

01:30:28.000 It was worse, if I remember correctly.

01:30:31.000 So what was the reason?

01:30:32.000 Boom!

01:30:32.000 Look at that.

01:30:32.000 Boom!

01:30:33.000 Boom!

01:30:34.000 Boom!

01:30:35.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:30:36.000 Canelo.

01:30:37.000 Oh, my goodness.

01:30:38.000 This is the last round.

01:30:39.000 That was.

01:30:39.000 Canelo just tried to put it to him.

01:30:41.000 And Golovkin's like, come on, come on, come on.

01:30:44.000 I'm from Kazakhstan.

01:30:45.000 Boom!

01:30:47.000 Just boom over the top.

01:30:51.000 Goddamn.

01:30:51.000 Just war here.

01:30:53.000 Look at that jab.

01:30:53.000 He literally just paid back every punch he took in the combination.

01:30:56.000 Just sharp jab, too.

01:30:57.000 His jab's so snappy.

01:30:59.000 Okay, change it.

01:31:04.000 Give me a guess, Eddie Bravo.

01:31:06.000 For sure, Golovkin.

01:31:08.000 For sure, right?

01:31:08.000 Unless there's corruption.

01:31:10.000 Unless there's corruption.

01:31:11.000 He's not crazy to say that.

01:31:12.000 I doubt it.

01:31:13.000 There could easily be corruption.

01:31:15.000 We're saying this.

01:31:16.000 Look at this.

01:31:16.000 They got it 116-112 for Golovkin.

01:31:19.000 Harold Letterman here!

01:31:21.000 Harold Letterman!

01:31:22.000 I thought Golovkin ran away with it!

01:31:24.000 They gave 10-9 on that last fight?

01:31:26.000 I mean that last round to fucking Canelo?

01:31:29.000 Yeah.

01:31:29.000 You know what I really like?

01:31:30.000 I don't know why they did that.

01:31:31.000 I like how these girls just stand there and smile.

01:31:34.000 They're doing a really good job.

01:31:36.000 They're always smiling.

01:31:37.000 It seems easy.

01:31:39.000 Dude, it's hard.

01:31:39.000 You gotta be frozen in that smile.

01:31:41.000 Oh, them fucking clapping in the back.

01:31:42.000 It drives me crazy.

01:31:43.000 I hate it.

01:31:44.000 I love it.

01:31:44.000 I love their focus.

01:31:46.000 They're focused on not being even remotely normal.

01:31:50.000 The job, their focus, their job is to stand there in some psychotic way if they were a guy.

01:31:57.000 Like if they were a guy, if they hired a guy to stand there in a nice suit and tie and stand there like this, could you fucking imagine how crazy it would be if you hired guys to stand behind fighters with giant smiles on their face and just not, especially if they were in their underwear.

01:32:13.000 Just imagine that.

01:32:15.000 Imagine guys in a Speedo standing there like ripped, like holding a Tecate sign with a big giant smile on their face.

01:32:22.000 That happens on Santa Monica Boulevard during the parades.

01:32:25.000 But it doesn't happen during a big fight on pay-per-view, Eddie Bravo.

01:32:28.000 You silly goose.

01:32:29.000 One day when...

01:32:31.000 Hey, let's hear the volume.

01:32:32.000 Let's hear it.

01:32:33.000 Is this a split decision or no?

01:32:36.000 1-14, 1-14.

01:32:40.000 A three-way split.

01:32:42.000 This is...

01:32:46.000 Told you, son.

01:32:47.000 Oh.

01:32:48.000 Boy, they fucking...

01:32:49.000 Shit.

01:32:49.000 Boxing fucking stinks.

01:32:51.000 Told you, son.

01:32:52.000 Boxing fucking stinks.

01:32:56.000 Brendan...

01:32:56.000 Brendan Schaub is a sage.

01:32:58.000 He's right.

01:32:58.000 Boxing fucking stinks.

01:32:59.000 Why is he mad?

01:33:01.000 Because he knows.

01:33:02.000 He knows he got fucked.

01:33:03.000 He knows it's bullshit.

01:33:03.000 Canelo got fucked?

01:33:04.000 Well, he's going to feel terrible now.

01:33:05.000 He knows he got his ass kicked.

01:33:06.000 That's a draw?

01:33:07.000 There's no way that's a draw.

01:33:08.000 How is that a draw?

01:33:13.000 No, it's...

01:33:14.000 Hold on a second.

01:33:17.000 We're going to see it again.

01:33:18.000 If he was happy, then that would mean that he thought he lost.

01:33:21.000 So the fact that he looks pissed, that's smart.

01:33:24.000 He's going, I should have won.

01:33:25.000 This is bullshit.

01:33:25.000 No, no, no.

01:33:26.000 He knows it shouldn't have been a draw.

01:33:28.000 I think he's mad because he didn't win.

01:33:31.000 He threw 200 more punches.

01:33:32.000 I'm sure he's mad he didn't win, but he's definitely mad that he got out-boxed and they made it a draw.

01:33:36.000 He landed 50 more punches.

01:33:38.000 How the fuck is that a draw?

01:33:39.000 Boxing stinks.

01:33:40.000 It's not even close.

01:33:41.000 Look at that, though.

01:33:42.000 Power punches.

01:33:43.000 Different.

01:33:44.000 There you go.

01:33:45.000 That's the difference.

01:33:46.000 Very close.

01:33:47.000 Maybe.

01:33:48.000 Oh, the higher percentage.

01:33:50.000 Oh, I can't stand it.

01:33:51.000 Yeah, but it's a higher number landed, too.

01:33:53.000 114 to 110 in total power punches.

01:33:58.000 Yeah.

01:33:59.000 Yeah.

01:34:02.000 That's a weird thing, though.

01:34:03.000 When you're looking at it numbers-wise, I mean, it's one way of looking at it.

01:34:07.000 But, like, one big shot that's a power punch and another power punch that doesn't do anything, they're both power punches.

01:34:14.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:34:14.000 Like, one shot that really fucks you up and your legs go and you get wobbly, that's a power punch.

01:34:20.000 And another power punch is a shot that lands in the same spot but doesn't do anything.

01:34:24.000 They're both power punches.

01:34:25.000 What do these colors mean?

01:34:26.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:34:27.000 What does the blue ear mean?

01:34:29.000 I don't know.

01:34:30.000 Look at the number of punches that landed on Canelo's face.

01:34:34.000 109 on his right side and 95 on his left.

01:34:38.000 210 landed to 127. Yeah, big difference in how many landed to the head.

01:34:43.000 Golovkin landed way more.

01:34:46.000 Wait a minute, it said only four shots were landed to Canelo's body?

01:34:49.000 That doesn't make any sense.

01:34:50.000 Is that really what it said?

01:34:52.000 Let's see what he says.

01:34:53.000 Let's hear this.

01:34:56.000 Until tonight.

01:35:00.000 Hold on a second.

01:35:00.000 What happened tonight?

01:35:03.000 You know, today, really, big Mexican day.

01:35:08.000 Congratulations to all my friends from Mexico.

01:35:13.000 Good move.

01:35:14.000 Go right to the Mexican fans.

01:35:17.000 Fucking smart move.

01:35:18.000 ...able to neutralize you, especially early in the fight, and then have success late when it looked like you had started to build a lead.

01:35:27.000 You know, he has good experiences.

01:35:30.000 We probably can't play this without getting yanked off of YouTube, so we're gonna go to the...

01:35:34.000 By the way, how...

01:35:35.000 First of all, I didn't think that last fight was...

01:35:37.000 I mean, that last round was 10-9 Canelo.

01:35:41.000 No.

01:35:42.000 How is he not fucking angry about this?

01:35:44.000 I mean, why am I angry about it?

01:35:45.000 He's getting shit.

01:35:46.000 Big drama show.

01:35:48.000 219, if you understand.

01:35:49.000 He retains his belt, so nothing really changes for him, and he gets all that money.

01:35:52.000 Now that your record...

01:35:53.000 And then the rematch is gonna be insane.

01:35:54.000 The rematch will be insane, but...

01:35:55.000 Oh, he's thinking about those dollars.

01:35:57.000 Like...

01:35:58.000 219. Good job by Brendan, man.

01:36:00.000 Fucking good call.

01:36:02.000 Yeah.

01:36:03.000 He nailed it.

01:36:04.000 The fighters were amazing, but the organization, it just stinks.

01:36:08.000 Brendan nailed it.

01:36:10.000 Can you hear this?

01:36:11.000 Are you guys hearing this?

01:36:12.000 What?

01:36:13.000 No.

01:36:14.000 Okay.

01:36:14.000 What am I hearing?

01:36:16.000 What he thought.

01:36:17.000 Coming out on TV. You know, I don't want to hear it.

01:36:21.000 If he's not saying, I got really lucky that they gave me that draw, I don't want to hear what he's saying.

01:36:26.000 If he thinks he won, he's stupid.

01:36:27.000 Still, that was a great fight.

01:36:28.000 Amazing.

01:36:29.000 I love it.

01:36:31.000 I don't, you know, I mean, I do care, but I don't care.

01:36:33.000 I do care that I think that, I thought that Golovkin won, but...

01:36:38.000 I don't care.

01:36:39.000 It's a great fight.

01:36:40.000 I like seeing great fights.

01:36:42.000 Decisions mean less to me as I get older because I look at it and like, okay, what am I doing?

01:36:46.000 I'm basing, like, how I feel about something based on an inaccurate assessment by people that don't necessarily know what they're doing.

01:36:55.000 Like, would I take advice on whether or not an episode of Game of Thrones is good from three people I thought were knuckleheads?

01:37:01.000 Like, what if there's like three judges for TV shows?

01:37:04.000 Like, well, the Game of Thrones finale, you know, I gave it a 100. You know, let's go to these judges.

01:37:09.000 Nope, we decided it gets a 40. No fucking way!

01:37:13.000 Right.

01:37:13.000 And you go to school the next day, like, dude, you hear?

01:37:16.000 Fucking Game of Thrones final got a 40?

01:37:18.000 Bro, we lost!

01:37:20.000 It got a little ridiculous at the end.

01:37:22.000 Shut your mouth.

01:37:22.000 Oh my god.

01:37:23.000 I thought this last season was the best one.

01:37:25.000 Oh, come on.

01:37:26.000 Let me just ask you a couple of questions.

01:37:29.000 I loved it.

01:37:30.000 Remember when they first escaped the White Walkers?

01:37:33.000 Didn't the water have something to do with it?

01:37:35.000 Like they got on a boat?

01:37:36.000 And for some reason, they can't get in water, right?

01:37:39.000 That's the thing.

01:37:39.000 Right.

01:37:40.000 Right?

01:37:40.000 They're ice.

01:37:41.000 Are you spoiler alert in the fuckhouse?

01:37:43.000 No, no, I'm just saying.

01:37:44.000 You're in a spoiler alert.

01:37:45.000 Something about the water, they can't hang in.

01:37:50.000 There was a few holes in the plot.

01:37:52.000 And now, who the fuck tied those chains around that dragon and dragged it up?

01:37:57.000 Who went scuba diving and tied that dragon up and dragged it up?

01:38:00.000 You probably have to assume Are they that strong?

01:38:03.000 They're not that strong because those dudes are fucking them up.

01:38:05.000 They're not that strong.

01:38:06.000 Who's carrying those gigantic chains down there, underwater, tie up the dragon, and drag it up?

01:38:11.000 Who's doing that?

01:38:12.000 They did.

01:38:12.000 Well, they're all dead, so they probably don't give a shit about the cold water.

01:38:15.000 They couldn't go through the water.

01:38:16.000 They can't get into water.

01:38:17.000 He's right.

01:38:18.000 So how do they do it?

01:38:19.000 That's a big hole right there.

01:38:20.000 I'll accept the dragon.

01:38:22.000 I'll accept it.

01:38:23.000 That's a very good point.

01:38:24.000 The dragon I can accept.

01:38:26.000 That's a very legitimate point.

01:38:27.000 What happens when they hit the water though?

01:38:28.000 I don't remember.

01:38:28.000 They don't like water.

01:38:29.000 But they don't like it.

01:38:30.000 Who knows?

01:38:30.000 It's supposed to keep them from getting to ships.

01:38:33.000 So islands.

01:38:34.000 I can keep them from going to an island.

01:38:36.000 That's why these other guys are like, fuck this, I'm going to an island.

01:38:38.000 I'm going to wait on the Iron Island, right?

01:38:40.000 Is it possible they just lowered the things down?

01:38:42.000 Andy Bravo nailed it.

01:38:43.000 They cannot get into water for some reason.

01:38:46.000 They established that several times.

01:38:48.000 And then all of a sudden, they cut.

01:38:50.000 They don't show how they tied this goddamn dragon up with a chain.

01:38:55.000 It's like one of those chains that you hold Navy ships to port, you know?

01:39:00.000 And who tied them up?

01:39:02.000 They just cut to them dragging them out.

01:39:04.000 Watching that dragon get pulled out, I can suspend a little.

01:39:06.000 I can live with the inconsistency of the dead people dragging the dragon out of the ice water.

01:39:11.000 I can live with the inconsistency.

01:39:12.000 I can live with that, but I'm with him.

01:39:14.000 I didn't even notice that when I was watching the show.

01:39:16.000 I didn't either.

01:39:17.000 That they went in the water.

01:39:18.000 And I love Game of Thrones, man.

01:39:19.000 I haven't missed shit.

01:39:20.000 They fucked up.

01:39:21.000 That just got me.

01:39:22.000 They fucked up.

01:39:23.000 Yeah, they fucked up.

01:39:24.000 It's a big hole.

01:39:25.000 You're right.

01:39:27.000 Maybe like in the last episodes they'll show how the fuck they tied that dragon up and dragged it up.

01:39:33.000 Or maybe it's just a big ass stupid hole.

01:39:35.000 Yeah.

01:39:35.000 And did anyone catch it?

01:39:37.000 And you know what?

01:39:37.000 You know what else?

01:39:38.000 Did they say, fuck it, let's do it anyway?

01:39:40.000 You know what bothers me?

01:39:40.000 What?

01:39:42.000 We're led to believe that these different kingdoms like King's Landing and all that are like countries away.

01:39:50.000 But man, they are traveling too damn quick.

01:39:53.000 They get from one city to the next city, they're at the wall, and then they meet.

01:39:57.000 And then they're in the snow, and then they're in the Bahamas.

01:40:00.000 And then they're walking over mountains.

01:40:01.000 Like, dude, this can take months.

01:40:04.000 It's almost like that whole kingdom is like...

01:40:08.000 Redondo Beach, West Hollywood, North Hollywood, Compton.

01:40:13.000 Yeah.

01:40:14.000 It takes 20 minutes.

01:40:16.000 This fight is Mike Perry.

01:40:17.000 It was supposed to be Mike Perry versus Tiago Alves.

01:40:20.000 He couldn't get out of Florida, right?

01:40:22.000 Isn't that what he said?

01:40:23.000 He couldn't get out of Florida, Alves?

01:40:24.000 Is that what happened?

01:40:25.000 Yeah.

01:40:25.000 He was stuck in Florida, and Mike Perry said, we came up early, so I don't want to hear that shit.

01:40:32.000 Is that really what happened?

01:40:33.000 I believe so, yeah.

01:40:34.000 That's terrible.

01:40:35.000 Do you ever think, like, when they show the armies walking through, like, fucking no man's land, like, who's carrying the fucking food?

01:40:41.000 And where's the water at?

01:40:43.000 Hey, bro, you're fucking my high up.

01:40:45.000 When are they taking shits?

01:40:47.000 I always think that.

01:40:48.000 I'm like, who are these motherfuckers taking shits?

01:40:50.000 That's a good point.

01:40:51.000 Like, what kind of sewage system do they have?

01:40:53.000 How bad is their breath?

01:40:54.000 They're just walking across deserts and shit.

01:40:56.000 And not shitting.

01:40:57.000 Yeah.

01:40:58.000 In ancient Rome...

01:40:59.000 There should be dudes taking pisses in every scene in the background.

01:41:01.000 There was a big issue in ancient Rome.

01:41:03.000 Like, people got diseases because they would shit in the streets.

01:41:06.000 Let's talk about that.

01:41:07.000 Let's bring that in.

01:41:08.000 Make it more realistic.

01:41:09.000 I need to see more shit.

01:41:10.000 You're right, man.

01:41:11.000 Or food.

01:41:12.000 Like, come on.

01:41:13.000 Explain how these fuckers are eating.

01:41:15.000 I'd love to see Khaleesi dropping a deuce off the side of that fucking castle.

01:41:18.000 How great would that be?

01:41:19.000 Dude, that'd be great.

01:41:20.000 Oh, man.

01:41:22.000 Maybe she's the queen of dragons.

01:41:23.000 And those shots, I don't know.

01:41:24.000 Those tight shots where they show Khaleesi on the dragon.

01:41:29.000 I don't care for that.

01:41:30.000 Remember the Superman TV show?

01:41:33.000 Dude, she's the mother of dragons.

01:41:35.000 You don't think she knows how to ride a dragon?

01:41:36.000 And her hair's barely going and she's barely holding on.

01:41:39.000 That's like somebody watching you in a jiu-jitsu match.

01:41:41.000 Like, oh, come on, man.

01:41:42.000 He strangled that guy with his legs.

01:41:43.000 We gotta have a couple guys falling off the dragons every now and then.

01:41:46.000 She gotta fall off the dragon every now and then.

01:41:48.000 Didn't someone almost fall off the dragon?

01:41:49.000 Oh, no, that was the Harry Potter ride.

01:41:51.000 She gotta fall off.

01:41:52.000 She's gotta fall off once or twice.

01:41:54.000 Come on, man.

01:41:55.000 She's just like barely gripping the dragon.

01:41:57.000 I do hate those shots.

01:41:58.000 When they go to her riding the dragon, it drives me nuts.

01:42:00.000 It's like some John Wayne shit.

01:42:02.000 You guys are both gay for each other.

01:42:04.000 Because I thought that was the most awesome thing ever.

01:42:06.000 I love the show.

01:42:06.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:42:07.000 I love it.

01:42:09.000 When she was riding that dragon, I was standing up cheering.

01:42:12.000 Because it looks green screen.

01:42:13.000 The dragons look better without eyes.

01:42:15.000 Isn't it kind of weird that all the rulers are women?

01:42:18.000 Some feminist shit.

01:42:19.000 We're all full of murder.

01:42:20.000 Just keep that murder coming.

01:42:21.000 I'm happy.

01:42:22.000 Look at it.

01:42:22.000 She looks perfect there.

01:42:23.000 Look how fake that looks.

01:42:25.000 Dude, come on, man.

01:42:26.000 Yeah, it's terrible.

01:42:27.000 Holding out of that dragon.

01:42:28.000 Do you know how many spikes would be inside of her pussy right there?

01:42:30.000 Yeah.

01:42:32.000 Her cape should be flapping more.

01:42:33.000 Is there like a saddle?

01:42:34.000 Where is it safe to stick your box?

01:42:36.000 You're gonna ride that thing?

01:42:38.000 She's between spikes.

01:42:39.000 She's between them.

01:42:39.000 But look at the spikes.

01:42:40.000 Look at the size of the spikes.

01:42:41.000 Yeah.

01:42:41.000 Look how gross they are and scary and pointy.

01:42:43.000 Probably disease covered.

01:42:44.000 And somehow or another, oh yeah.

01:42:45.000 Her grip strength must be incredible.

01:42:47.000 Insane.

01:42:47.000 They never show her training.

01:42:49.000 It's true.

01:42:49.000 Dude, her grip strength's out of this world.

01:42:51.000 She should have like a rock climbing wall in her castle.

01:42:54.000 Maybe she takes one of those spikes and she puts it down in her pussy and just clamps a hold of it.

01:42:58.000 Does Kegels the whole time?

01:43:00.000 She just has a spot that she can lock in.

01:43:03.000 Like a ball and socket joint.

01:43:05.000 Is this another really bad one?

01:43:06.000 The dragon's way bigger than that!

01:43:08.000 Yeah, the dragon's way bigger.

01:43:09.000 Isn't the dragon way bigger than that?

01:43:10.000 I hate the way she's holding on.

01:43:11.000 And you're right, her whole body's on spikes.

01:43:13.000 That isn't right.

01:43:13.000 When they show the dragon, sometimes it looks tremendous.

01:43:16.000 It's huge!

01:43:17.000 That might be an older episode, though.

01:43:18.000 That looks like a moray eel, right there.

01:43:19.000 That might be smaller, though.

01:43:20.000 That might be younger.

01:43:21.000 Oh, that might have been earlier days.

01:43:23.000 Oh, you're right.

01:43:24.000 You're right, you're right.

01:43:25.000 There was a baby.

01:43:26.000 You're right.

01:43:26.000 Okay, I'm wrong.

01:43:27.000 She used it to kill a bunch of people, man.

01:43:30.000 Some people in some of the last episodes.

01:43:32.000 Didn't she get out of the chain?

01:43:33.000 Look how big it was there.

01:43:34.000 Oh my god, that's a full-grown dragon.

01:43:36.000 Okay, I get it.

01:43:36.000 Hold on a second.

01:43:37.000 Look at that thing!

01:43:38.000 Dude, that's badass.

01:43:39.000 The movement of the dragon is amazing.

01:43:40.000 And you know what?

01:43:41.000 I will say this.

01:43:41.000 I know that motherfucker's CGI, but when that White Walker threw that spear, I was like, when it missed the first time, I'm like, full kill!

01:43:50.000 I know.

01:43:51.000 I feel like it's alive.

01:43:53.000 Lee versus Ferguson.

01:43:54.000 They got me with the dragon.

01:43:55.000 I believe it.

01:43:56.000 They're going to try to do Johnson versus Borg again?

01:43:58.000 It was a virus though, right?

01:43:59.000 That kept him out?

01:44:00.000 He's missed weight a lot.

01:44:02.000 Oh.

01:44:02.000 He's missed weight a lot.

01:44:04.000 Ray Borg has missed weight several times.

01:44:06.000 And I don't know if he got sick while he was cutting weight, if other people were around him.

01:44:11.000 But it's just, you know, boy, that's a big opportunity to get sick for.

01:44:17.000 And it can happen for sure, but oof.

01:44:19.000 Yeah.

01:44:21.000 I guess they have to do it again.

01:44:23.000 They already trained for it.

01:44:25.000 One of the judges gave it 118 to 110 for Canelo.

01:44:30.000 Adlai Bird?

01:44:33.000 Adlai Bird did that?

01:44:35.000 Think about her record in the UFC. Terrible.

01:44:39.000 118 to 110 for Canelo.

01:44:41.000 Adlai Bird?

01:44:42.000 That's so crazy.

01:44:43.000 Is that a woman or a man?

01:44:44.000 Yeah, she's a woman.

01:44:45.000 She's a very nice lady.

01:44:47.000 Wow, is that fucking bad.

01:44:49.000 She's gonna get torched for that, no?

01:44:50.000 That's terrible.

01:44:51.000 I hope she stays offline.

01:44:53.000 But they have no accountability.

01:44:54.000 It doesn't matter.

01:44:55.000 Nothing happens to them.

01:44:57.000 They just keep right on being fucking horrible.

01:44:59.000 That's terrible.

01:45:00.000 Yeah, it's not good.

01:45:02.000 I better piss.

01:45:03.000 Jesus.

01:45:03.000 There was one woman who got...

01:45:05.000 She got in serious trouble for several really bad decisions, and she wound up retiring.

01:45:13.000 Because it was like people were threatening her life.

01:45:18.000 Mike Perry's a bad motherfucker.

01:45:20.000 He's scary.

01:45:22.000 It's hard.

01:45:23.000 See that Jake Allenberger fight?

01:45:27.000 I don't know, a casino owner or whoever is running the gambling, the guy at the top, if he wanted to...

01:45:33.000 Rig it?

01:45:35.000 If he wanted to rig it, how would you do it?

01:45:37.000 Go after the judges or the fighters?

01:45:39.000 I got your explanation, too.

01:45:40.000 What explanation?

01:45:41.000 For the Game of Thrones thing.

01:45:42.000 Okay.

01:45:43.000 Multiple tweets have come that said that they can't swim, but they can go in water.

01:45:46.000 They just sink to the bottom.

01:45:48.000 Oh, so they sacrificed them.

01:45:49.000 Yeah.

01:45:49.000 But who's carrying those chains?

01:45:51.000 They're not strong enough to carry those chains.

01:45:52.000 Those chains were gigantic.

01:45:55.000 They just sink them.

01:45:56.000 I don't know.

01:45:57.000 They get hundreds of them.

01:45:58.000 Oh, so they can't swim, they just sink.

01:46:00.000 But wait a minute, they drag the dragon out.

01:46:01.000 If they're strong enough to drag the dragon out, why aren't they strong enough to take the chains in?

01:46:05.000 Dude, a lot of holes in there.

01:46:06.000 That doesn't make any sense.

01:46:07.000 Less holes now.

01:46:08.000 Or whoever put them down there is still down there.

01:46:10.000 Makes sense.

01:46:11.000 They just sacrifice them, let them stay at the bottom of the water.

01:46:14.000 They can't get out.

01:46:15.000 That doesn't make sense.

01:46:15.000 So they're just walking around, chaining them up?

01:46:17.000 No, you're right.

01:46:17.000 Why can't they just walk out?

01:46:18.000 Why don't they just walk out?

01:46:18.000 You know how hard it would be to chain them up?

01:46:20.000 Even if you had cranes and all this shit, to chain that thing up, you'd have to have James Cameron down there with that little submarine trying to scope it out for a while.

01:46:28.000 You know what I mean?

01:46:29.000 Try to bring that shit up like the Titanic.

01:46:31.000 Keith Peterson, another excellent referee.

01:46:34.000 That would be way harder than the Titanic.

01:46:36.000 A dead body?

01:46:37.000 No, it wouldn't be harder than the Titanic.

01:46:39.000 Titanic's like miles deep into the water.

01:46:41.000 Is that like 13,000 feet down?

01:46:42.000 Yeah, it's crazy how deep it is.

01:46:44.000 But it's steel and has shit to hook on.

01:46:45.000 You could just hook it up.

01:46:47.000 Look at this.

01:46:48.000 Ooh.

01:46:50.000 Does his hair usually look like that?

01:46:52.000 No, he's going Jersey Shore for this fight.

01:46:55.000 He's a ruthless guy, though.

01:46:57.000 Super powerful fucking knockout artist.

01:46:59.000 Very dangerous.

01:47:00.000 Yeah.

01:47:00.000 When he knocked out Ellenberger, I was like, wow.

01:47:03.000 He's just real reckless and angry.

01:47:06.000 Alan Joban handled him, though.

01:47:08.000 Joban did a really good job fighting smart.

01:47:11.000 I think that's his loss.

01:47:12.000 I think he's 10-1.

01:47:14.000 I think that's his loss, but that's a good fight for him.

01:47:17.000 Joe Band fought a technical fight and beat him.

01:47:20.000 For a guy like Mike Perry, who's a super dangerous up-and-coming dude, that's a good fight for him.

01:47:25.000 Learned something.

01:47:27.000 Got a leg kick there.

01:47:28.000 As long as they just learn, as long as fighters don't get discouraged, fights like that are always good for them.

01:47:33.000 Because then you just realize there's a higher level.

01:47:35.000 And the only way to reach that higher level is you've got to see it.

01:47:41.000 Is this a pre-rim or is this live?

01:47:44.000 Oh, this is live.

01:47:44.000 This is the co-main, isn't it?

01:47:46.000 This is the co-main?

01:47:47.000 Yeah.

01:47:48.000 Kid's fucking ferocious, man.

01:47:50.000 Look at that knee to the head.

01:47:51.000 Look at this fucking fighting him off so good.

01:47:53.000 Good Muay Thai right there.

01:47:55.000 Hey, good Muay Thai, good clinching, but most importantly, just relentless attack.

01:48:00.000 Look at him.

01:48:00.000 Boom!

01:48:01.000 That elbow on the clutch.

01:48:01.000 Boom!

01:48:02.000 There's a knee!

01:48:02.000 That's it!

01:48:03.000 That's it!

01:48:03.000 Boom!

01:48:03.000 Is that what he does?

01:48:05.000 Ruthless.

01:48:05.000 He's a ruthless motherfucker.

01:48:07.000 That guy is relentless.

01:48:09.000 And it's just like all attack.

01:48:11.000 It's all attack.

01:48:12.000 All full bore.

01:48:14.000 All out.

01:48:15.000 Just trying to smash you all the way.

01:48:17.000 The guy that's going to beat him is a guy like Joban, who's going to fight a very smart...

01:48:25.000 Technical stand-up fight.

01:48:27.000 Like, Joe Band did a lot of footwork, a lot of movement, but he also made him pay.

01:48:31.000 He made sure that, like, when he comes charging out, I'm like, you're not gonna get away with that.

01:48:34.000 Like, boom!

01:48:35.000 We would catch him with some stuff, and he realized, like, ooh, this guy can hurt me.

01:48:37.000 It was enough for, you know, him to keep Perry off him.

01:48:41.000 Look at this shit.

01:48:42.000 Elbowing tight.

01:48:43.000 That's nice.

01:48:44.000 Look at this.

01:48:44.000 Doom!

01:48:46.000 That's it.

01:48:47.000 Limpville.

01:48:47.000 Population one.

01:48:48.000 Bam!

01:48:49.000 Hammer fist to the back of the ear.

01:48:51.000 Did this guy have any kind of camp though?

01:48:53.000 No, he did not.

01:48:54.000 I don't believe.

01:48:55.000 You don't see a lot of tie clinches.

01:48:59.000 Well, remember Anderson and Rich Franklin?

01:49:01.000 That was enough for like 10 years.

01:49:02.000 Do you think it's because, because obviously it's a clinch that has a thousand levels and would need a lot of work, do you think it's because most fighters don't specifically work on developing that clinch and controlling people from that clinch in their training camps, or it's just something that's low percentage in MMA? Not a good decision.

01:49:20.000 It's not that it's low percentage.

01:49:21.000 There's less of a chance of getting in an MMA because you're essentially allowing a guy to get double underhooks on you.

01:49:27.000 I mean, if you think about what you're doing when you're clenching someone's head.

01:49:31.000 Anderson was so good at it, man.

01:49:32.000 He had such a tight squeeze.

01:49:34.000 And it's like anything else.

01:49:35.000 You know how some people just have a sick gable grip?

01:49:38.000 Some people just have a sick squeeze?

01:49:40.000 Well, there's levels.

01:49:42.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:49:43.000 Developing an R fighter, spending time developing.

01:49:45.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:49:46.000 In Thailand, they drill with that.

01:49:49.000 In Thailand, yes.

01:49:49.000 No, no, in Thailand, they specialize in it.

01:49:50.000 They're working on it.

01:49:51.000 They spend time on it.

01:49:53.000 You don't see it that much in MMA. You think it's because it's low percentage?

01:49:56.000 Well, it's also, you're committing to this, right?

01:49:59.000 You're committing to this.

01:50:00.000 Guys are too good.

01:50:01.000 You know, you give a guy a double underhook and he's tripping you and he's on top.

01:50:04.000 People don't want that.

01:50:05.000 And it's also, guys are good at keeping their hands on the hips.

01:50:08.000 That's what Rich Franklin fucked up.

01:50:09.000 But there is a reality, though, that if the guy has, like, if you have Your hand on a guy's hips and the other guy has got you in a Thai clinch.

01:50:17.000 He can elbow you from that clinch while you're grabbing onto his hips and you're not really going to be in a good position to stop it if he's fast.

01:50:24.000 It's a very good position to be in.

01:50:26.000 If a guy is worried about your knees and he does commit one hand or maybe even two to the hips, like you catch him with a couple hard ones, a lot of guys will just switch to elbow, like right from here.

01:50:37.000 Bam!

01:50:37.000 And it's a ruthless thing.

01:50:40.000 Elbows are so nasty.

01:50:41.000 It's really kind of amazing that we cover up the knuckles, because you break your knuckles a lot.

01:50:46.000 You never break your elbow.

01:50:48.000 Fucking smash bricks with your elbow, no problem.

01:50:51.000 Nobody ever breaks their elbow fighting, unless you get kicked.

01:50:55.000 You know, but like hitting somebody, you might get like little chips.

01:50:58.000 Like Anderson had a bunch of chips in his elbow that he actually had to get removed.

01:51:02.000 Like bone chips and shit.

01:51:03.000 Stuff that snapped off on people's...

01:51:05.000 Same thing with Alan Joban.

01:51:06.000 I'm sure.

01:51:06.000 He had a serious problem with his elbow.

01:51:09.000 Didn't Gerald?

01:51:09.000 I think Gerald Striban had a bunch of floating around shit in his elbow too.

01:51:12.000 A lot of guys get that.

01:51:13.000 I think he was the third choice for this too, I think.

01:51:16.000 Really?

01:51:16.000 Yeah, there was one guy they had...

01:51:19.000 And he couldn't do it, and I guess...

01:51:21.000 I don't know who was second.

01:51:22.000 Well, you watch how fucking ferocious Perry is, you realize why Tiago didn't want to take this with no camp, or with a fucked up camp.

01:51:30.000 What was fucked up at his camp?

01:51:32.000 Well, he's got to get out of Florida for the hurricane.

01:51:34.000 That was like a week before, though.

01:51:35.000 Oh, is that why he got pulled from the fight?

01:51:38.000 They both came from Florida.

01:51:40.000 That's, I think, what...

01:51:41.000 What the reason he gave was.

01:51:45.000 Let me make sure that's right.

01:51:46.000 He's talking some shit about Tiago right now.

01:51:56.000 Everybody wants to see me beat up Robbie Lawler.

01:51:58.000 Look at him.

01:51:59.000 Wow.

01:52:04.000 Everybody wants to see me beat up Robbie Lawler.

01:52:06.000 Ooh, what a crazy thing to say.

01:52:08.000 What a great fight that would be, though.

01:52:09.000 Good lord.

01:52:14.000 This is a fucking interesting one.

01:52:16.000 If he really does do that, if Tiago doesn't fight him, and then he winds up and...

01:52:20.000 Because he didn't get hurt in this fight at all.

01:52:22.000 He just swarmed him and KO'd him.

01:52:24.000 He could probably fight again in a few months.

01:52:27.000 I wonder what they're going to do.

01:52:28.000 If they're going to rematch, or remake the Tiago fight, or whether they really do give this kid Robbie O'Hara.

01:52:34.000 How about Ponzinibbio?

01:52:36.000 That's a good fight.

01:52:37.000 That's actually who I thought they were going to wind up, and then they put him with Gunnar Nelson.

01:52:45.000 Okay.

01:52:45.000 I don't want to hear any of this nonsense.

01:52:47.000 Yeah.

01:52:48.000 Yay, we're going to the game.

01:52:50.000 What do you give a fuck?

01:52:51.000 He just knocked a dude unconscious.

01:52:53.000 He's just an enjoyable guy, though.

01:52:55.000 Yeah.

01:52:55.000 Ferocious fighter.

01:52:56.000 Yeah.

01:52:57.000 Just, like, his style is just marauding, ferocious, full attack, reckless, a lot of confidence in his ability to take a shot, a lot of confidence in ability to knock people dead, like, boom, landed that, like, that's it.

01:53:12.000 And then have one of these.

01:53:15.000 A great fight would be him and Alan Joban again with the history rematch?

01:53:19.000 Yeah, it could be.

01:53:20.000 Doesn't Joban have a big fight coming up?

01:53:23.000 Does he?

01:53:23.000 Why do I think Alan has a big fight coming up?

01:53:27.000 Maybe I'm making that up.

01:53:28.000 I don't think I am, though.

01:53:29.000 I think something was just announced.

01:53:32.000 I don't know.

01:53:33.000 It's saying that Diago lost his dog and was living with his family at the gym because of the hurricane.

01:53:40.000 So maybe he did it before camp.

01:53:42.000 Yeah, fuck all that.

01:53:44.000 Being at the gym with your family.

01:53:45.000 He's got a kid, a really young kid.

01:53:48.000 Yeah, I get it.

01:53:49.000 That clinching is insane.

01:53:51.000 Insane.

01:53:51.000 He's a beast, man.

01:53:52.000 And that's how Alan fights, too.

01:53:55.000 He's got a serious clinch, too.

01:53:56.000 That's the motherfucker right there!

01:53:58.000 That's the picture on my phone.

01:53:59.000 I took my girlfriend off and put Francis Ngannou.

01:54:02.000 Look at his hat.

01:54:03.000 I love it.

01:54:03.000 He's like Idi Amin up in that bitch.

01:54:06.000 Here we go.

01:54:08.000 Did they find anyone for him, by the way, or no?

01:54:10.000 After Dos Santos dropped out?

01:54:12.000 No.

01:54:12.000 They don't know what's going to happen with Junior.

01:54:14.000 What the substance was.

01:54:16.000 They said it was a very small trace amount of a diuretic.

01:54:20.000 So it wasn't like a steroid.

01:54:21.000 But a lot of times guys use diuretics to mask steroids.

01:54:24.000 Because it flushes it out of your system quicker.

01:54:27.000 So like I say, if a guy is doing something and he wants to test negative, apparently you can flush some stuff out with diuretics.

01:54:35.000 Because it just drains all the water out of your body.

01:54:37.000 And you keep pouring more water in and it flushes things out quicker.

01:54:40.000 I think.

01:54:41.000 I don't understand how that works.

01:54:43.000 So diuretics are illegal?

01:54:45.000 Yes.

01:54:46.000 That's what Chris Cyborg got popped for a diuretic.

01:54:50.000 But then they gave her a use exemption because she has a legitimate reason for using it, like a medical condition.

01:54:57.000 When will they know what he took or will they never know?

01:54:59.000 They know what he took.

01:55:01.000 There's a process.

01:55:02.000 It has to play out.

01:55:05.000 What did they think happened?

01:55:07.000 What's the evidence?

01:55:08.000 They're very, very thorough about it.

01:55:10.000 One of the things I really appreciate about that Jeff Nowitzki is that one of the things he said about John Jones, he said, before you judge him, we have to let this process play out.

01:55:20.000 And he's right.

01:55:20.000 Did it play out?

01:55:22.000 Not yet.

01:55:22.000 I mean, they got the B sample.

01:55:24.000 The B sample is positive as well.

01:55:27.000 But it was a lot of weird shit was going on.

01:55:29.000 Like a lot of his chiropractor was tweeting that John passed the blood test, free John.

01:55:35.000 And like, this is so irresponsible because like anybody who looked into it even for a moment would realize that they don't even test for that stuff in the blood.

01:55:44.000 They only test for that stuff in the urine.

01:55:47.000 So when they say his blood test was clear of it, it's because they didn't test for it.

01:55:51.000 It's a urine test.

01:55:53.000 So it was so disingenuous.

01:55:56.000 So then they waited, they got the B sample, they tested that, yup, same exact stuff.

01:56:01.000 So it's in there.

01:56:03.000 So the question is, now, not whether or not it was in his body, but how did it get in his body?

01:56:08.000 There's a big issue with a bunch of sports guys.

01:56:11.000 What is it?

01:56:12.000 Baseball guys?

01:56:13.000 They're getting popped with that stuff?

01:56:14.000 Brendan Shaw brought that up as well.

01:56:16.000 That apparently that stuff, T-ball, is in a ton of supplements.

01:56:23.000 You can get it in a lot of that GNC, over-the-counter, muscle-builder bullshit, all those testosterone boosters that you buy.

01:56:31.000 So it may be that.

01:56:32.000 Could be.

01:56:32.000 But you're not supposed to take that shit.

01:56:34.000 You shouldn't take that shit.

01:56:36.000 Especially if you have to come back off a suspension.

01:56:37.000 Like, shouldn't you be sending everything in?

01:56:39.000 It's crazy.

01:56:40.000 But tainted supplements are a real issue.

01:56:43.000 But obviously the thing is, don't take any fucking supplements unless they're absolutely approved and certified.

01:56:48.000 And you can get supplements that are approved and certified.

01:56:51.000 And then there could be a random bad batch.

01:56:54.000 That's totally possible.

01:56:56.000 That happened to somebody.

01:57:00.000 Supplements where a guy never really took a steroid but got popped because something was in a supplement.

01:57:04.000 That happened to Tim Means.

01:57:06.000 Tim Means took some shit from GNC. Just some normal shit that's supposed to be some stuff you could buy off the shelf.

01:57:15.000 And he tested positive, and he told everybody what he took.

01:57:18.000 They went to different stores independently, pulled that stuff off the shelf, tested it, yup, there it is.

01:57:24.000 Steroids.

01:57:25.000 But he's still got a, what was it, a six month suspension, or did he do a year?

01:57:27.000 Yeah, he's not supposed to take that stuff.

01:57:29.000 Like, even though it's not illegal, you have to approve everything.

01:57:33.000 And then on top of that, they have a list.

01:57:35.000 They have a USADA list on the website that you can go to and find out what's tainted and what's not.

01:57:41.000 Holy shit, dude!

01:57:42.000 It is the craziest thing you've ever seen.

01:57:44.000 It's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of supplements.

01:57:47.000 It's like, there's so much shit that makes you piss hot.

01:57:50.000 It's crazy.

01:57:51.000 What's the most common?

01:57:52.000 What's the most popular?

01:57:53.000 I don't think there's a most popular.

01:57:55.000 They start with A. Like Muscle Farm type stuff?

01:57:57.000 Yeah, they're starting with A, and they're working their way through B. Like GNC stuff.

01:58:00.000 Like stuff that says GNC on it.

01:58:02.000 Yeah, dude, I'm talking hundreds of things.

01:58:04.000 Like, Nowitzki pulled the website up, and we were laughing.

01:58:07.000 We were laughing at how many things there were, because it's so absurd.

01:58:09.000 Is there anyone who doesn't take anything, any supplements?

01:58:11.000 Do you know of any supplements?

01:58:12.000 Sure.

01:58:14.000 There's some guys that just take fruits and vegetables.

01:58:17.000 Yep.

01:58:18.000 The ones from Monsanford and Son, though, those are tainted.

01:58:23.000 Monsanford and Son?

01:58:25.000 Renato de la Raja.

01:58:26.000 She saw fruit and vegetables.

01:58:28.000 Yeah, those are tainted.

01:58:29.000 Those are genetically modified.

01:58:31.000 They have a shelf life of 20 years.

01:58:33.000 He posted a Joe Hogan for mayor sign that somebody had put up somewhere.

01:58:42.000 He might not have.

01:58:42.000 Somebody else did, I guess, and they were just talking about him.

01:58:45.000 Joe Hogan.

01:58:47.000 But I think that there's a lot of tainted supplements, for sure.

01:58:53.000 But I think there's a lot of guys using steroids, too.

01:58:56.000 So it's like, which one is it?

01:58:58.000 Did John Jones take a tainted supplement, or was John Jones using steroids?

01:59:03.000 Those are the only two options at this point, because that stuff's in his body.

01:59:06.000 Oh, the other option is somebody dosed him.

01:59:08.000 I thought of that, too.

01:59:09.000 I wonder if somebody could find out.

01:59:11.000 Well, they have to do some sort of an investigation.

01:59:13.000 He has to come clean, talk about everything that he's taken.

01:59:18.000 If he took something that is not on their list of approved substances and he didn't claim that, if that's the case, he needs a goddamn babysitter.

01:59:29.000 If that's really what happened, if it really was a tainted supplement and just some normal bullshit from a supermarket health food section, who the fuck knows?

01:59:37.000 If it's really just some nonsense...

01:59:39.000 He needs a babysitter.

01:59:41.000 He needs someone that's around him that he trusts and respects, some mentor figure that does not allow him to take anything stupid and tells him, hey man, you're the baddest motherfucker of all time, and you're about to get put on the shelf for four years over some nonsense.

01:59:55.000 Matt Serra raised a very interesting point about, again, it was just a speculation, but is it possible that this was happening?

02:00:01.000 Because all those fights happened before USADA, yeah, except for OSP. Well, there's always going to be that speculation if someone pisses hot.

02:00:09.000 You always got to think, well, if they piss hot in USADA, and back when it wasn't very sophisticated, and the drug...

02:00:18.000 Searching wasn't that sophisticated.

02:00:20.000 Maybe they were doing it the whole time.

02:00:22.000 You gotta wonder, you know?

02:00:24.000 That's why a guy like Tony Ferguson is so fucking spectacular.

02:00:27.000 You know, you look at a guy like Tony Ferguson, and he's just got mad focus and work ethic.

02:00:33.000 He's just ferocious in his focus and his intent.

02:00:37.000 Like, that guy doesn't need steroids.

02:00:39.000 He just needs food and life, you know?

02:00:42.000 And he's just gonna keep going.

02:00:45.000 He just needs a place to work out and he'll build it too.

02:00:48.000 That's the crazy thing.

02:00:49.000 He's up there on Big Bear building gyms.

02:00:52.000 Builds his own fucking rolling room.

02:00:53.000 He's got video of it and photos of it and shit.

02:00:56.000 They matted out a room.

02:00:57.000 He nailed all the boards down and shit.

02:00:59.000 He built a bag stand.

02:01:01.000 Yeah.

02:01:01.000 Like a workout little...

02:01:03.000 Of course he did.

02:01:03.000 Yeah, he's...

02:01:04.000 Why does he do that?

02:01:05.000 He just likes the act of doing it?

02:01:06.000 He is the kind of guy that if shit at the fan, it was an apocalypse.

02:01:12.000 He's the guy that you're going to want to hang out with.

02:01:15.000 He's going to build your house.

02:01:16.000 He's going to go hunt for you.

02:01:17.000 And all you got to do is just make sure everything's clean when he gets home.

02:01:20.000 I'm not that guy.

02:01:21.000 I just curl up like a beta and I beg.

02:01:25.000 Yeah, well that's what community is all about.

02:01:27.000 You're supposed to have one of those guys.

02:01:29.000 One guy like you.

02:01:30.000 Supposed to have one guy like Eddie.

02:01:31.000 I mean, that's what a real community is.

02:01:33.000 The idea that everybody has to be the guy that can build a bag stand.

02:01:37.000 But he can.

02:01:38.000 He does everything, man.

02:01:39.000 He cleans the cabin.

02:01:41.000 He's on fire, dude.

02:01:42.000 He's just always on fire.

02:01:44.000 He'll go for a run through these hills and these mountains and these streets, and he'll have a crew with them running.

02:01:50.000 And I'm in the car because I have a torn ACL, so I'm in my car following them.

02:01:54.000 And he'll beat them by so much and then come back for them and then go and then come back for them and go.

02:02:00.000 These are all professional athletes.

02:02:02.000 No, his endurance is insane.

02:02:04.000 He's into doing extra credit.

02:02:06.000 If we're going to do 10 rounds of sprints, he'll do 12. He's always going to go extra.

02:02:10.000 What's going on with your knee?

02:02:12.000 Tor ACL, Tor MCL. Is it partially torn?

02:02:16.000 Is that what the deal is?

02:02:17.000 Yeah, it's at 12. Did you talk to Dr. Roddy McGee?

02:02:20.000 He's talking about surgery and my doctor.

02:02:25.000 We're talking about let's try to rehab it and see what happens first, and then you could always get surgery later.

02:02:32.000 He said, you know, with me, I told you that all I did was just stretch out, and I just stood up, and my knee just fell apart.

02:02:41.000 It came out, and I had to pop it back in, and then I got an MRI the next day.

02:02:48.000 And it came back partial tear on the ACL, torn MCL. You really don't need surgery for the MCL. Those, apparently, they just heal by themselves.

02:02:58.000 You just gotta stay off them.

02:02:59.000 What's the difference between the ACL and the MCL? The ACL, I'm on the fence.

02:03:02.000 I could have surgery right now, or I could try to rehab it.

02:03:06.000 But, um...

02:03:07.000 What's what?

02:03:08.000 ACL is the anterior cruciate ligament.

02:03:09.000 It's the ligament that stabilizes the knee, keeps it from popping forward.

02:03:13.000 I've had both my ACLs reconstructed.

02:03:15.000 From fighting?

02:03:18.000 One of them from jiu-jitsu, one of them from taekwondo.

02:03:20.000 And it popped out three weeks later.

02:03:21.000 I was doing a seminar at 10th Planet Oceanside, and right there in the middle of the seminar, boom, it came out again.

02:03:25.000 Yeah, it's going to pop out.

02:03:26.000 I'm just like, ah!

02:03:28.000 If it pops out that much, man, I would go to a different doctor.

02:03:31.000 I'd go to Roddy McGee, man.

02:03:33.000 Just go to him in Vegas.

02:03:34.000 I'd talk to him, and he seems totally legit, but what he's talking about is the surgery, the new kind of surgery that they're doing.

02:03:42.000 The new surgery, the healing's only three months.

02:03:45.000 They don't use a cadaver anymore.

02:03:46.000 Now they reattach, and you're a perfect candidate for it, because your shit's not totally torn apart.

02:03:51.000 They reattach, and they re-sew it up, and one dude did it, and five months later, he competed in the Olympics.

02:03:59.000 The recovery time is so much different because what they're doing now is repairing your ligament.

02:04:05.000 Whereas before what they were doing is putting in an artificial ligament and then that ligament would act as a scaffolding.

02:04:10.000 So not artificial but a donor.

02:04:12.000 Like I have a donor on my right one.

02:04:14.000 Cadaver?

02:04:14.000 From a cadaver.

02:04:15.000 You can do cadaver, patella or hamstring?

02:04:17.000 I had patella on my left and cadaver on my right.

02:04:19.000 How's your left feeling?

02:04:20.000 Both of them are awesome.

02:04:21.000 Left is awesome?

02:04:22.000 Both of them are awesome.

02:04:23.000 Apparently people are moving away a little bit from cadavers because sometimes you can get an infection.

02:04:27.000 Like Benji Raddick, he had his ACL, a cadaver ACL, and he got infected somehow?

02:04:33.000 I think he got infected from the surgery.

02:04:34.000 He got staph from the surgery, which is super common.

02:04:37.000 Yeah, it's common from the cadaver.

02:04:40.000 It's the actual tendon.

02:04:42.000 Well, you know, MRSA is just something that's in hotels.

02:04:45.000 I know the doctor that I'm going to is the one who did his.

02:04:48.000 Yeah, but there's no way to tell whether it was from the actual surgery itself from cutting you open because a lot of people get it from like any sort of simple operation they can get MRSA. He stopped doing cadavers.

02:04:59.000 He just does patellas.

02:05:01.000 Well now what Dr. McGee was saying is the most latest cutting-edge shit, you don't even have to do that.

02:05:07.000 Now what they're doing is they're taking this torn stuff and he had pictures of it and images of the actual surgery.

02:05:13.000 They stitch it together and rope it down and like literally stitch it together and they have this technique that they do and then you're up and moving.

02:05:22.000 Like you're up and moving and within three months it's a hundred percent.

02:05:26.000 Instead of six months.

02:05:28.000 What's the technique?

02:05:28.000 What did they just kind of cocoon it with a bunch of rows of stitches?

02:05:31.000 Yeah, it's a crazy looking apparatus, the way they were doing it.

02:05:34.000 The way they had it stitched up like some crazy fishing knot.

02:05:38.000 But apparently it worked amazing.

02:05:40.000 Because he had some videos of this guy a few months post-surgery doing box jumps.

02:05:45.000 And I was like, this is crazy.

02:05:46.000 Doing side box jumps.

02:05:48.000 Like hopping on top of things, hopping on top of another thing, jumping over things left and right.

02:05:53.000 I was like, that is incredible.

02:05:55.000 For someone to go from ACL surgery, that's a recipe for blowing your knee apart.

02:06:00.000 Because I remember after I got mine, for like six months, I was terrified to do anything.

02:06:05.000 When I first came back to jiu-jitsu, I was terrified.

02:06:08.000 I was like, huh, huh, huh.

02:06:10.000 Every time I roll, it's like, please don't fall apart.

02:06:12.000 Please don't fall apart.

02:06:13.000 How long did you wait?

02:06:15.000 Six months.

02:06:16.000 So hard to do.

02:06:16.000 And how long until you're doing it when you're like, alright, it's not going to fall apart?

02:06:20.000 A couple months.

02:06:21.000 Like eight months in, I realized, I was like, this is pretty good.

02:06:24.000 I'm feeling pretty good.

02:06:25.000 I didn't throw any kicks forever.

02:06:26.000 I didn't kick the bag forever.

02:06:28.000 And when I did jiu-jitsu, if anybody even went for my leg, I would tell them, please don't yank on this one.

02:06:34.000 This one's still ginger.

02:06:36.000 And I wouldn't try to explode with it and push off with it.

02:06:39.000 I was real gentle.

02:06:40.000 Gentle on it.

02:06:42.000 This fight's about to go down.

02:06:45.000 What do you think?

02:06:46.000 Eddie Bravo?

02:06:48.000 Initial thoughts?

02:06:49.000 I don't know.

02:06:50.000 Does Luke Rockhold get the same guy after getting KO'd by Bisping?

02:06:54.000 It's a hard one to call.

02:06:56.000 It's been a long time outside the octagon.

02:06:57.000 Jim Norton, what do you think?

02:06:58.000 You're the host of UFC Uncensored.

02:07:00.000 I'm taking David Branch.

02:07:02.000 New Yorker.

02:07:03.000 Goes with the New Yorker.

02:07:03.000 You have to.

02:07:04.000 David Branch moving towards him.

02:07:05.000 Dropping some shots.

02:07:07.000 Luke Rockhold's got a powerful left kick.

02:07:10.000 Yeah.

02:07:10.000 Strong left kick.

02:07:11.000 And he landed it a few times to the body already.

02:07:14.000 It's a legit kick and he catches you with it way outside.

02:07:17.000 And Luke Rockhold's super hard to take down.

02:07:19.000 He trains all the time with Daniel Cormier and Cain Velasquez.

02:07:23.000 He's got all these monster wrestlers over there.

02:07:26.000 Habib Nurmagomedov.

02:07:27.000 You think Branch wants to take him down?

02:07:29.000 He might.

02:07:30.000 He's got a very good ground game.

02:07:31.000 Doesn't Rockhold have a spinning side kick KO finish?

02:07:36.000 Is that right?

02:07:36.000 No, he got wheel kicked in the head by Vitor Belfort.

02:07:39.000 And then he got...

02:07:41.000 Chris Weidman tried to wheel kick him, and he took Weidman to the ground and beat the fuck out of him.

02:07:47.000 Yeah, that was the beginning of the end right there.

02:07:48.000 Yeah, it was crazy, because up until that, it was like a really competitive fight.

02:07:52.000 Branch is doing a good job of circling to his left to avoid that left kick.

02:07:56.000 He's not...

02:07:56.000 Oh, but he landed it right there.

02:07:58.000 Branch is doing a real good job.

02:07:59.000 Oh, he's putting Rockhold in danger.

02:08:02.000 There it is!

02:08:06.000 He teed off on him!

02:08:08.000 Oh my god, Rockhold's in trouble.

02:08:10.000 This is a real fight.

02:08:11.000 Oh my god, he's taking Rockhold down.

02:08:13.000 That's how you know Rockhold's in big trouble.

02:08:15.000 Rockhold's super hard to take down.

02:08:17.000 He should have stayed standing.

02:08:18.000 Maybe, but he lets him know he can take him down.

02:08:22.000 God damn, this is legit.

02:08:23.000 And he just looked over at his friend and waved and said I'm okay.

02:08:27.000 Or his coach, his corner.

02:08:29.000 But he didn't look okay.

02:08:31.000 He got hit with bombs, man.

02:08:33.000 You're never okay when you get hit with those kind of bombs.

02:08:35.000 You might not have gone out, but you're not okay.

02:08:39.000 See, fucking MMA is so much different than boxing.

02:08:41.000 These two fights highlight it.

02:08:43.000 Like, you guys barely know who Mike Perry is, right?

02:08:46.000 Yeah.

02:08:46.000 But meanwhile, he's so invested in that fight.

02:08:48.000 Chaos, right?

02:08:49.000 In this fight, this is fucking chaos.

02:08:53.000 In so many different ways.

02:08:55.000 118 to 110. That's gonna ruin my fucking weekend.

02:08:59.000 Adelaide Bird, she's a very nice lady.

02:09:00.000 I can't say anything terrible, but that's where it is.

02:09:06.000 She's always very pleasant.

02:09:07.000 She always waves and says hello.

02:09:09.000 I mean, just because I don't think I agree with her in boxing.

02:09:13.000 Yeah.

02:09:13.000 Not mad at the lady.

02:09:14.000 At what point do judges get removed for poor officiating?

02:09:19.000 It's a good question.

02:09:20.000 Or does that ever happen?

02:09:21.000 Well, back in the old days, the Nevada State Athletic Commission wasn't being run very well.

02:09:25.000 Bob Bennett, the guy who runs it now, is an animal.

02:09:28.000 He's on the ball.

02:09:29.000 He's really good.

02:09:30.000 And he's really smart, and he's just a real easy guy to talk to, too.

02:09:35.000 But that's the boxing commission, though, right?

02:09:37.000 Totally different commission, right?

02:09:38.000 No, he's the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

02:09:39.000 It's the same thing.

02:09:40.000 Yeah, he handles all that stuff.

02:09:42.000 So most likely, he'll probably be looking into that.

02:09:44.000 Do they ever get booted, though, if it's not corruption?

02:09:46.000 If they literally just think this guy sucks at making decisions, do they ever get kicked out?

02:09:50.000 Like, you've fucked up too many times.

02:09:52.000 It's a good question.

02:09:52.000 I don't know enough about boxing.

02:09:54.000 I know when there's a bad decision and I know names that I keep hearing, but it's not like I know MMA judges.

02:10:01.000 That's a disgraceful score.

02:10:03.000 Disgraceful, I agree.

02:10:04.000 And has she had another disgraceful?

02:10:07.000 Yeah, she's had some terrible decisions in terms of what I think about the call.

02:10:11.000 Ooh, look out for the knees, son.

02:10:13.000 He's trying to trip Branch down.

02:10:15.000 Luke Rockhold, super strong.

02:10:16.000 Super strong top game.

02:10:18.000 Branch might be fading a bit here.

02:10:20.000 Nope.

02:10:21.000 Branch still looking to wing some shots.

02:10:24.000 One of the things that Branch thought was a big factor in this fight was his boxing.

02:10:28.000 But he's got to avoid those kicks, especially the left one, man.

02:10:31.000 The left one's the big one for Rockhold.

02:10:33.000 And he'll do it off the switch.

02:10:34.000 Ooh, that's a nice right leg kick.

02:10:36.000 He'll do it off the switch, and he's got a nasty question mark kick.

02:10:39.000 His question mark kick is what he used to crack bisping with.

02:10:42.000 Because he hits you with the body shots, like over and over and over again.

02:10:45.000 And then he gets you reaching.

02:10:46.000 So he throws one like this to the body, and then at the last minute he whips it around over the top.

02:10:53.000 He's nasty with that.

02:10:54.000 Really good with that.

02:10:55.000 That's like one of his best techniques.

02:10:58.000 That and his left power kick.

02:10:59.000 That left power kick to the body is just so good.

02:11:03.000 He stopped Kosta Filippu with that left body kick as well.

02:11:07.000 Oh!

02:11:07.000 He went jumping, round kicking, nice straight left!

02:11:09.000 He said, no, no, no.

02:11:11.000 He certainly looks like he recovered.

02:11:13.000 Yeah, he recovered for sure.

02:11:14.000 Oh, he just clipped David Branch with a right hook.

02:11:18.000 Look, Rockhold does not want to go out like that Bisping fight.

02:11:21.000 See, here's the clinch, what you're talking about.

02:11:23.000 See, it's just way harder to pull off.

02:11:26.000 There's just so much scrambling in MMA and looking for takedowns and stuff.

02:11:32.000 Look at that, Luke Rockhold get in the back!

02:11:34.000 Get in the back!

02:11:35.000 Oh shit, David Branch almost goes down!

02:11:37.000 Oh!

02:11:38.000 Luke Rockhold on top, very dangerous on top, super strong, and Branch is tired as fuck, man.

02:11:48.000 Rockhold looks like a surgeon here.

02:11:50.000 Branch is doing a good job of protecting him.

02:11:52.000 One thing Rockhold's got to watch out for is his legs.

02:11:54.000 Branch is from the Henzo Gracie school.

02:11:57.000 What's his motive in putting him up against the cage when he...

02:12:01.000 Smash him.

02:12:01.000 Smash him against the wall.

02:12:02.000 They can't really move.

02:12:04.000 He wants to just hold him somewhere.

02:12:05.000 Ooh, look at that makeup.

02:12:09.000 Dude, look at that shit.

02:12:12.000 Yeah, just smash them.

02:12:14.000 Rockhold came on strong towards the end of that round.

02:12:16.000 There's nothing more claustrophobic than watching that when someone's mushed up against the cage.

02:12:20.000 Like that Khabib-Johnson fight.

02:12:23.000 That's probably the most claustrophobic I've ever been watching a fight.

02:12:26.000 Awful.

02:12:26.000 That was one of the worst ones ever.

02:12:28.000 There's an art to smashing a guy against that fence.

02:12:30.000 For sure.

02:12:31.000 Keeping him there and landing shots and wearing him out and just smashing him.

02:12:34.000 It takes you back to when you're 10 years old.

02:12:36.000 Like, that's how I got beat up when I was a kid.

02:12:38.000 Like, you're just helpless in a corner.

02:12:39.000 Dude, that happened to me when I was 14. That's when I started wrestling.

02:12:42.000 This guy took me down in the locker room and he was, like, gonna punch me in the head but he decided not to because it was so easy for him to take me down.

02:12:50.000 He just grabbed me in a headlock.

02:12:52.000 I didn't even know if we were fighting.

02:12:53.000 I didn't know what was going on.

02:12:54.000 We were looking at each other and he was talking some shit.

02:12:57.000 And I wasn't exactly sure what we were going to do.

02:13:00.000 And then all of a sudden we were grabbing each other and he just got me in a headlock and threw me on the ground and held me there and could have easily punched my face in.

02:13:07.000 To this day, I owe him a debt of gratitude.

02:13:09.000 Changed your life.

02:13:11.000 He did change my life because he made me realize, like, oh my god.

02:13:13.000 And then I had a friend, my friend Steven Artauino.

02:13:16.000 He was a wrestler in high school.

02:13:18.000 And I was already doing martial arts then.

02:13:21.000 And I just had no idea how easy it was for someone to take me down.

02:13:25.000 And we went outside to We went outside on the grass, and he was like, I can take you down easy.

02:13:30.000 I was like, no you can't.

02:13:31.000 He's like, whoosh, boom.

02:13:33.000 I was like, fuck that.

02:13:34.000 Try again.

02:13:34.000 Whoosh, boom.

02:13:35.000 I was like, oh my god, I gotta start wrestling.

02:13:37.000 So those two events led me to wrestling class.

02:13:40.000 I wrestled in high school, and I was terrible.

02:13:42.000 I was probably one of the worst wrestlers in high school history.

02:13:44.000 I got one takedown.

02:13:46.000 I would never take anybody down.

02:13:48.000 I was always afraid that I was going to catch a knee in my teeth.

02:13:50.000 So I would just sprawl on dudes that took down.

02:13:53.000 Oof.

02:13:53.000 That tried to take me down.

02:13:54.000 That was my game plan.

02:13:55.000 But regular people, when I'd get in a fight, I would take them down.

02:13:59.000 And I always felt like I was cheating, but I didn't care.

02:14:02.000 Because you used wrestling.

02:14:03.000 Yeah.

02:14:03.000 I'd go, you know what?

02:14:03.000 I don't give a fuck.

02:14:04.000 If someone fucks with me, I'm going to double leg them.

02:14:06.000 And then I'd get, like, twist or cycle, and I'd punch their stomach.

02:14:08.000 I did that to a soccer player.

02:14:11.000 He was talking shit in school.

02:14:12.000 And, um...

02:14:14.000 I took him down.

02:14:15.000 I took several guys down.

02:14:16.000 Isn't it funny that you would think that it would be cheating?

02:14:17.000 I didn't think it was real fighting back then.

02:14:19.000 So when I saw Hoist, when I saw Hoist in UFC 2, I'm like, oh shit, you could take dudes down and fight?

02:14:25.000 That's legit?

02:14:26.000 He's hurting that leg, by the way.

02:14:27.000 Rockhold is really hurting that leg.

02:14:28.000 Both guys are hurting their legs.

02:14:30.000 Rockhold has been landing a bunch of hard leg kicks on Branch too.

02:14:32.000 This is a serious fight.

02:14:34.000 No, that's what I mean.

02:14:35.000 He's been hurting Branch's leg.

02:14:36.000 Oh yeah, but Rockhold's hurt too, man.

02:14:38.000 This is a real fight.

02:14:41.000 Very good fight.

02:14:44.000 Is it funny now, like, a fight where two guys take each other down, it's like totally standard.

02:14:49.000 Like, no kids today would ever think that would be cheating.

02:14:52.000 Like, that's how you fight, motherfucker.

02:14:54.000 If someone takes someone down, like, oh shit, ground and pound.

02:14:56.000 Kids know the moves.

02:14:57.000 Side control!

02:14:59.000 Oh, you got side control!

02:14:59.000 You see fight videos, just street fight videos, where someone takes someone down and they tap?

02:15:03.000 Like, that's like the understood move now?

02:15:05.000 It's hilarious.

02:15:06.000 But look, if people can tap in street fights, the world would be a better place.

02:15:10.000 Yeah.

02:15:11.000 Because if somebody leaves you alone after you tap and they let it alone, like two guys agree to fight, and then someone taps, and then the guy respects the tap, that's good.

02:15:19.000 That happens.

02:15:21.000 Yeah, I hope it does.

02:15:21.000 I hope it happens more often.

02:15:23.000 I guess it all depends on what push you fight to begin with, though.

02:15:26.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:15:27.000 You're not signing the contract, some guy fucked your chick.

02:15:29.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:15:31.000 Exactly.

02:15:32.000 Boom.

02:15:33.000 Some of the craziest shit is girls fighting.

02:15:36.000 Because it's so primal.

02:15:38.000 Especially when they don't know how to fight.

02:15:39.000 Yeah.

02:15:39.000 And they're grabbing hair and just screaming.

02:15:41.000 Wakes come off.

02:15:42.000 It's awesome.

02:15:44.000 They're all just wailing at each other.

02:15:46.000 See, the thing about Rockhold is, he's so used to this shit, because he's in the gym with DC and Kane doing this.

02:15:54.000 So, like, there's very few guys that are going to have the kind of clinch game that Rockhold's going to have.

02:15:59.000 And the kind of grappling, like, grinding skills that Rockhold's going to have, because he's been doing it with these fucking monsters.

02:16:06.000 Look at that.

02:16:07.000 Yeah, I mean, Rockhold...

02:16:08.000 And he's passed.

02:16:09.000 Oh, the full mouncha!

02:16:11.000 Full mouncha!

02:16:13.000 Not good for Branch.

02:16:14.000 Super bad for Branch.

02:16:16.000 Let's see if he gives up his back and trying to get out.

02:16:19.000 That's super dangerous.

02:16:20.000 Don't panic.

02:16:21.000 Let's see if he panics.

02:16:23.000 He's got to figure out a way to defend himself.

02:16:26.000 Oh, look at that.

02:16:27.000 He's giving up his back.

02:16:28.000 He's giving up his back.

02:16:30.000 Give it up his back.

02:16:31.000 He's going to handcuff him.

02:16:32.000 Oh, he got that back.

02:16:34.000 Oh, it's a bad place to be.

02:16:35.000 He's flattened.

02:16:36.000 This is terrible.

02:16:37.000 Plenty of time.

02:16:38.000 Branches in a world of shit.

02:16:39.000 Dude, Rockhold does this to everybody, man.

02:16:41.000 He gets on top of you and he just smashes you.

02:16:44.000 It's so impressive.

02:16:45.000 He did this to Vito, right?

02:16:46.000 Look at his top mount.

02:16:47.000 No, he did it to Lyoto.

02:16:52.000 Lyoto Machida.

02:16:53.000 Oh, Branch is in trouble.

02:16:54.000 Vitor wheel kicked him in the head, remember?

02:16:55.000 Oh, that's right.

02:16:57.000 Dude, Branch is in serious trouble.

02:16:58.000 He's going to flatten him out.

02:16:59.000 That's a serious mount, man.

02:17:01.000 That back mount is out of control.

02:17:03.000 His mount and his back mount, his top game is just fucking ferocious.

02:17:08.000 Oh, Branch is done.

02:17:09.000 He's done.

02:17:10.000 He's just covering up.

02:17:13.000 Dan's giving him a lot of chances here, but he's taking a fucking bad beat.

02:17:17.000 He tapped, he tapped, he tapped.

02:17:18.000 That's it.

02:17:19.000 Oh, wow.

02:17:19.000 That's it.

02:17:19.000 Tap to strikes.

02:17:23.000 Tap to strikes.

02:17:25.000 Great fight.

02:17:26.000 Fuck yeah, that was a great fight.

02:17:28.000 Dude, Brockhold's top game might be the best in the fucking division.

02:17:32.000 He might be better than Romero.

02:17:34.000 He's a black belt, right?

02:17:36.000 Yeah, he's a black belt.

02:17:37.000 Under who?

02:17:37.000 I don't know.

02:17:38.000 I don't know.

02:17:38.000 I don't know who they're...

02:17:39.000 It's not...

02:17:40.000 Oh, it's an AK. It's not Dave Camarillo.

02:17:43.000 Maybe it's Dave Camarillo.

02:17:44.000 How long has he been at AK? It's forever.

02:17:47.000 Is Dave Camarillo still an AK? No.

02:17:49.000 I think he is.

02:17:49.000 But a lot of guys train with him still.

02:17:51.000 A lot of guys still go over there.

02:17:53.000 Did he just throw out his mouthpiece?

02:17:54.000 Yeah.

02:17:54.000 Threw it to somebody.

02:17:55.000 That's a joy.

02:17:56.000 Would you suck on that?

02:17:58.000 No, I wouldn't.

02:17:58.000 Would you put it in your mouth?

02:17:59.000 No, I wouldn't.

02:18:00.000 Girls would.

02:18:01.000 Some girls would.

02:18:02.000 Some girls want to get pregnant with that spit.

02:18:05.000 I'll get you pregnant.

02:18:06.000 I guess it would depend on the fighter.

02:18:15.000 Boom.

02:18:16.000 I got a text message from Vinny Shorman.

02:18:18.000 Fucking Adelaide Bird.

02:18:19.000 Again.

02:18:22.000 A lot of people are aware that Adelaide Bird doesn't have the best decisions.

02:18:26.000 Boom, boom, boom, boom.

02:18:29.000 She's trending?

02:18:30.000 Jamie knows who's trending.

02:18:31.000 Would you ever know who's trending?

02:18:32.000 Never.

02:18:33.000 Not even who's me.

02:18:34.000 Would you ever have any idea ever who's trending?

02:18:36.000 What was that?

02:18:36.000 Would you ever have any idea who's trending?

02:18:39.000 No.

02:18:39.000 Just ask Jamie.

02:18:40.000 Oh.

02:18:41.000 Is Justin Bieber still trending?

02:18:44.000 Is he still on top?

02:18:46.000 Can't you trend two different ways, too, like locally?

02:18:49.000 Like, I've had guys go, dude, you're trending, but I'm not.

02:18:51.000 It's like a fucking local, like in Jersey, I'm trending compared to other Jersey people.

02:18:55.000 Nice.

02:18:56.000 How does that work?

02:18:57.000 How do you trend in Jersey?

02:18:58.000 I don't know.

02:18:59.000 There's a way to do it location-wise, like where you get your hopes up and you realize, oh, no one fucking cares.

02:19:04.000 Luke Rockhold put the beat down.

02:19:07.000 But I'll tell you what, man.

02:19:08.000 David Branch made it a scrap.

02:19:09.000 Made it a scrap for the beginning until Luke Rockhold wore on him.

02:19:13.000 With that pressure, that clinch...

02:19:15.000 And that wrestling, too.

02:19:17.000 I'm telling you, man, all those years with Kane and DC, I mean, you don't get any better wrestling than that.

02:19:22.000 You don't get any better, more savage, big, giant dudes than those two.

02:19:27.000 Think about it.

02:19:28.000 Olympic-class wrestler and arguably the greatest UFC heavyweight ever.

02:19:34.000 But who helps Kane like that?

02:19:36.000 Because obviously he's heavier than...

02:19:38.000 DC. Not much.

02:19:39.000 Not much.

02:19:40.000 DC walks around all the time at 235, 240. You know, he even said he was feeling kind of slim like this time after the fight.

02:19:48.000 You know, we did commentary last weekend.

02:19:50.000 And he said he was usually, he'd be at like 235 by now.

02:19:55.000 But he was lighter than that.

02:19:57.000 I think he was like 215 or 220 or something like that.

02:19:59.000 But he'll get up to 235. So, like, Kane's 240. So, they're in the neighborhood of each other.

02:20:04.000 Like, five pounds difference with a world-class grappling like those two guys have.

02:20:08.000 They're just going to war constantly.

02:20:10.000 It's always a problem, though, for big guys, guys 250 and above, finding training partners.

02:20:14.000 It's tough.

02:20:16.000 Especially in jiu-jitsu schools.

02:20:17.000 Man, it's tough.

02:20:18.000 We don't have very many big guys.

02:20:19.000 We got, right now, in my class, I think the biggest guy, 200 pounds.

02:20:27.000 That's crazy.

02:20:28.000 That's it.

02:20:29.000 What a fight, man, huh?

02:20:31.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:20:32.000 Luke Rockhold.

02:20:33.000 I'll tell you, dude, when that guy gets people down, they are not getting up.

02:20:37.000 He has one of the best fucking top games.

02:20:44.000 You don't see a lot of tap outs due to strikes.

02:20:46.000 A lot of people don't do it.

02:20:47.000 They don't believe in it.

02:20:48.000 A lot of people have said, like, that's a bitch move.

02:20:51.000 I don't think it is, even a little bit.

02:20:54.000 I think it's a smart move.

02:20:55.000 When you're getting hit, you're getting fucked up, and you know you're not going to recover, you know, and the fight's over, there's no need to take extra shots.

02:21:01.000 If you know that you're done, just tap.

02:21:04.000 But it's seen as if they see fighters say this.

02:21:06.000 Well, a lot of people, like George St-Pierre, that's one of the things that BJ Penn was taunting him about, how he tapped with strikes against Matt when Matt beat him.

02:21:15.000 Matt beat the shit out of him and clipped him with a big right hand early, got on top of him, banged him out, and then GSP tapped the strikes.

02:21:22.000 And BJ was like, I would never tap the strikes.

02:21:25.000 But really, maybe some of those career fights he should have tapped the strikes.

02:21:28.000 Yeah, if you know you've got nothing left, why not?

02:21:29.000 Yeah.

02:21:34.000 Getting out of what?

02:21:37.000 Is that about Bisping?

02:21:44.000 I don't know.

02:21:45.000 That's some bad trash talking.

02:21:45.000 I'm thinking it's Bisping because he's saying it's his fight.

02:21:48.000 I think he feels he should be fighting for the belt, not GSP. Damn.

02:21:58.000 He got credit for taking that and surviving that first round.

02:22:00.000 Yeah, he was in trouble, dude.

02:22:02.000 He was in trouble for sure.

02:22:03.000 That tight clinch stopped the strikes.

02:22:04.000 Yep.

02:22:05.000 This is what stops everything, man.

02:22:07.000 His fucking smush game.

02:22:09.000 Look at that step over mount.

02:22:10.000 No resistance in getting that mount.

02:22:12.000 He just overwhelmed Branch.

02:22:14.000 Branch just couldn't keep up that pace.

02:22:17.000 You know, Luke Brockhold, I mean, he's the reason why he was the champ.

02:22:22.000 He's fucking world class.

02:22:26.000 November, Madison Square Garden.

02:22:30.000 Whoa, so he's telling GSP to back out.

02:22:33.000 Well, there's people who still think that GSP is not going to make that fight.

02:22:36.000 Yeah, there's a lot of people who think that GSP is crazy now.

02:22:39.000 He's lost his marbles.

02:22:40.000 Why?

02:22:41.000 Didn't he keep delaying it?

02:22:42.000 Well, because of the time lapse thing and the UFO thing.

02:22:46.000 He kept talking about aliens, like he was obsessed with aliens, to the point where they wanted to leave it out of one of the UFC countdown shows.

02:22:53.000 No way.

02:22:54.000 He talked a lot about it?

02:22:56.000 Yes.

02:22:58.000 Yeah.

02:22:59.000 He's trying to tell us.

02:23:00.000 We're not listening.

02:23:01.000 He talked about it on my podcast, man.

02:23:04.000 Talked about, uh, he thinks that, like, sometimes he'll, he'll, like, be missing time, and it'll, like, be somewhere else.

02:23:10.000 It wasn't comfortable listening to.

02:23:12.000 Didn't you point it out to him that that was some kind of a trauma?

02:23:15.000 Yeah, well, that's one of the main signs of trauma.

02:23:18.000 You know, loss of memory is one of the big ones.

02:23:20.000 You know, when you start talking about missing time and aliens, like, whoa, okay, why would you think it would be aliens when you got hit 800 times?

02:23:30.000 Like, he was hit more than 800 times in his UFC career.

02:23:33.000 He was like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm fine with that.

02:23:36.000 Aliens are fucking with me, dude.

02:23:39.000 Damn.

02:23:40.000 It's crazy.

02:23:41.000 Maybe it's true.

02:23:41.000 Maybe it is.

02:23:42.000 Imagine if we were, like, we're joking around about it.

02:23:45.000 Meanwhile, every night while GSP's sleeping, his body freezes.

02:23:50.000 The room fills up with blue light.

02:23:52.000 Little dudes, like, fucking walk right through the walls.

02:23:55.000 Yeah.

02:23:56.000 And he's like, no, don't take me again.

02:23:59.000 They take him to the spaceship.

02:24:01.000 This is a cartoon.

02:24:02.000 Yeah, they want to get that DNA. They want that perfect super athlete GSP DNA. They take him there, and they have a whole Under Armour lab in space.

02:24:12.000 They do an anal probe in him, and then he turns around and goes, I am not impressed.

02:24:19.000 Why is it always your butt, man?

02:24:21.000 They're always playing with your butt.

02:24:22.000 Something about the butt.

02:24:23.000 I think that's how they test the blood.

02:24:27.000 See what you're eating.

02:24:29.000 Plus they probably know it bothers us.

02:24:30.000 I bet you could learn a lot from shit.

02:24:34.000 Dude.

02:24:34.000 What if they started giving poop samples?

02:24:36.000 Like, that was more accurate than piss?

02:24:39.000 I mean, we have no problem with piss samples.

02:24:41.000 What about shit samples?

02:24:42.000 We didn't have to shit in a cup.

02:24:43.000 Shit in a bowl.

02:24:45.000 Pee in the cup.

02:24:45.000 Everybody's like, alright, can't believe you're making me do this, but I'll do it.

02:24:48.000 Like, if UPS made you shit in a bucket...

02:24:52.000 Cellophane the top.

02:24:54.000 We found a new, there's a new blood drug test, but we need your shit.

02:24:58.000 It's the only way you really tell.

02:24:59.000 No way you're gonna beat this.

02:25:01.000 You can't fake the shit test.

02:25:02.000 And we have to have at least four pounds of it.

02:25:05.000 Can you imagine dudes getting their friends to shit for them?

02:25:11.000 Dude, I need your shit.

02:25:12.000 Dude, dude, dude, just hide in the fucking air duct.

02:25:15.000 You have like a bag of shit.

02:25:16.000 You're like, tap the wall twice, and you drop down like a fucking demon, take a shit in my bucket, and climb back up there.

02:25:23.000 Bro, we're gonna get caught!

02:25:24.000 We tested his shit.

02:25:26.000 Listen, you been eating good?

02:25:28.000 Like, you eat a lot of fiber?

02:25:29.000 Like, can you shit on command?

02:25:33.000 There's going to be dogs they can smell.

02:25:34.000 They'll be like steroid sniffing dogs.

02:25:39.000 They'll just send a fucking beagle in.

02:25:40.000 If they start eating your shit, then that means you're guilty.

02:25:45.000 Dude, I got this puppy, and when he was little, as the shit would be coming out of his butt, he'd be turning around trying to eat it.

02:25:52.000 Damn.

02:25:53.000 He's taking a shit, he's like, oh, let me get some of that.

02:25:55.000 No.

02:25:56.000 Puppies are weird, man.

02:25:57.000 They smell shit, and they're babies.

02:26:00.000 They think it's food.

02:26:01.000 Yeah, they don't understand.

02:26:02.000 That's a bad move.

02:26:03.000 Literally like soft-serve ice cream coming out of his ass.

02:26:06.000 Aren't their noses like a thousand times stronger than ours?

02:26:09.000 Yeah, but they don't think it's bad.

02:26:10.000 Can you imagine what shit smells like to them?

02:26:12.000 They like the smell of shit.

02:26:12.000 It's so bad, they like it.

02:26:13.000 It just flips out of like, it's a defense mechanism.

02:26:17.000 Well, no, they like rotting bodies, too.

02:26:20.000 Dogs.

02:26:20.000 Yeah, dogs find like a dead beaver or some shit.

02:26:23.000 They'll roll around in it.

02:26:24.000 Mmm.

02:26:25.000 They like it on their skin.

02:26:27.000 It's real weird.

02:26:27.000 Maybe we're supposed to like it.

02:26:28.000 Maybe we've been brainwashed into not liking it.

02:26:31.000 Because we're supposed to eat bugs, right?

02:26:32.000 We're supposed to eat insects, right?

02:26:34.000 It's a smart thing to eat.

02:26:36.000 Right?

02:26:36.000 Wouldn't it be?

02:26:36.000 I mean, we wouldn't need to go to the supermarket if we like bugs.

02:26:40.000 We just eat bugs.

02:26:40.000 We just trap flies and stuff.

02:26:41.000 But are we supposed to eat them?

02:26:42.000 Or are we only up to a certain point?

02:26:43.000 Like, once you can make shit, there's no need to eat them anymore.

02:26:45.000 I think we're supposed to eat insects.

02:26:47.000 Yeah, I was listening to a lecture about this.

02:26:49.000 Where they were talking about...

02:26:52.000 Okay, no, it was Terence McKenna.

02:26:54.000 That's who it was.

02:26:54.000 And he was talking about how we used to be insectivores.

02:26:58.000 And so that reward system is still in our consciousness.

02:27:01.000 That's why people get super excited when they catch a bug.

02:27:05.000 That's why people like those...

02:27:09.000 Butterfly catchers.

02:27:10.000 They collect butterflies and shit, and they capture them.

02:27:13.000 There's a whole group of people.

02:27:15.000 You know how you can't trophy hunt?

02:27:16.000 Do they eat them?

02:27:17.000 No.

02:27:18.000 You know how people don't like trophy hunters?

02:27:19.000 It's gross.

02:27:20.000 You go over there, shoot rhinos, and put them on your wall.

02:27:23.000 Collecting butterflies is totally fine.

02:27:25.000 Nobody gives a fuck about butterflies.

02:27:27.000 Oh, they kill them once they get them, right?

02:27:29.000 Well, they don't last long anyway, so that's actually, I guess, the mindset.

02:27:33.000 But there's people that collect them, like serial killers.

02:27:35.000 They have these butterflies pressed up on the glass, and they've collected all these from all over the globe.

02:27:41.000 Aren't they beautiful?

02:27:42.000 They're killing all these bugs.

02:27:43.000 They're like trophy hunters, but for bugs.

02:27:46.000 That's one step above throwing a fat girl in your well.

02:27:48.000 Anybody out there fighting for bug rights?

02:27:51.000 Well, I'll tell you when it could happen.

02:27:53.000 It is possible that it could happen someday.

02:27:58.000 There's a bunch of different people in different parts of the world that eat crickets, and cricket protein is really rich.

02:28:04.000 It's very good.

02:28:05.000 Cricket protein is very good for you.

02:28:07.000 Yeah, cricket protein powder right there.

02:28:09.000 People are starting to turn towards crickets for animal protein, for vitamin B12, for a lot of things.

02:28:15.000 And a lot of people that might have ethical issues with eating animal protein don't have it with bugs.

02:28:21.000 Maybe insectivore will be a thing.

02:28:24.000 People don't want to necessarily commit to being vegan, but they don't want animals to suffer, but they're cool with eating crickets.

02:28:31.000 That would actually be a good health move.

02:28:33.000 You could get a lot of really rich protein.

02:28:36.000 Look at all the shit that's in crickets.

02:28:40.000 How many crickets you get out of 10 gallons of water?

02:28:47.000 They're going to be in there anyways?

02:28:48.000 So for 100 gallons of water, you get 71 grams of crickets versus 19 grams of chicken.

02:28:54.000 I don't really know what this means.

02:28:55.000 I don't either.

02:28:56.000 It's just a weird thing.

02:28:57.000 There must be protein.

02:28:58.000 Protein versus the amount of weight of body mass of the animal.

02:29:03.000 Because I would imagine crickets use very little water.

02:29:06.000 Right?

02:29:07.000 They're creepy little bugs.

02:29:08.000 That's how much they use to create that much.

02:29:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:29:09.000 How much water used to create that much protein.

02:29:11.000 Right.

02:29:12.000 Whereas cows drink water.

02:29:14.000 Chickens do.

02:29:15.000 They need actual water.

02:29:17.000 How long before some asshole comes out and tries to defend cricket rights?

02:29:21.000 It'll happen.

02:29:21.000 It'll also happen with robots.

02:29:22.000 As soon as we start making human-looking robots that do shit for us, somebody will start to say you have to treat them a certain way.

02:29:28.000 It may or may not happen in our lifetime.

02:29:29.000 Robot rights.

02:29:31.000 There's a real problem that if we figure out that plants have consciousness, and they know that plants do have some consciousness.

02:29:37.000 Do they really?

02:29:38.000 Yeah, they know there's some communication going on between plants.

02:29:40.000 It's just not what we think of as consciousness, first of all, because it doesn't entail moving.

02:29:45.000 But there's some sort of information that's being passed on.

02:29:48.000 In fact, plants have chemical reactions to being preyed upon.

02:29:53.000 Like, plants change their flavor profile.

02:29:56.000 Like, they'll make themselves disgusting for animals to eat, just based on whether or not an animal's trying to eat them.

02:30:01.000 So if something eats them, it changes the smell of all the animals around them, or all the plants, rather, around them.

02:30:07.000 And then they change, like, for the acacia bush.

02:30:11.000 They've studied these things when they go downwind.

02:30:13.000 Like one will get eaten by a giraffe, and then the wind will catch the other trees, and the other trees will become inedible to the giraffe.

02:30:21.000 It's fucked.

02:30:22.000 It's crazy.

02:30:22.000 There's some sort of communication.

02:30:23.000 Do they feel pain?

02:30:23.000 I always ask.

02:30:24.000 I have my stuff trimmed once in a while.

02:30:25.000 I'm like, does that fucking, did that hurt?

02:30:27.000 The woman went to smack me in the face.

02:30:29.000 It can't abuse plants.

02:30:29.000 It's a good question.

02:30:30.000 Like, what is pain, though, right?

02:30:32.000 Because our pain might have to do entirely with movement in our central nervous system, which plants definitely don't have.

02:30:38.000 So even though they're a living thing, they might have consciousness, but they might not be experiencing pain.

02:30:43.000 But they do know that they have some crazy relationship with fungus.

02:30:48.000 And that the fungus are extracting minerals from the dirt.

02:30:51.000 There's like mycelium under the ground and they have some sort of relationship with the root system.

02:30:56.000 And there's a whole community and there's like exchanges going on and like these ecosystems of plants.

02:31:02.000 Like when you see a jungle, we think about a bunch of individual plants.

02:31:05.000 But they're all working together.

02:31:06.000 They're all like synced up in some way that we're too stupid and self-centered to consider.

02:31:13.000 Plants give me the creeps.

02:31:14.000 I like them.

02:31:15.000 They fucking creep me out, man.

02:31:15.000 I'll beat the fuck out of a plant.

02:31:17.000 Just because there's bugs and there's so much about them I don't get and the fungus, they really do freak me out.

02:31:22.000 Anybody thinks they understand plants, look at Venus flytraps, okay?

02:31:27.000 That's a plant that kills bugs.

02:31:30.000 Look at this fucking plant in, I want to say Ecuador, is that where it's from?

02:31:34.000 There's this plant that looks like a flower and mice and rats.

02:31:39.000 Go around the edge of it, because it smells sweet, and it smells like rotting meat in there, and they fall in, and this thing closes up on them, and they absorb it and eat it.

02:31:49.000 They eat rats.

02:31:50.000 Oh, that goes right there.

02:31:52.000 Check that out.

02:31:53.000 Can you back that up so I can see it?

02:31:54.000 They used to sell Venus flytraps.

02:31:56.000 You could order one.

02:31:56.000 Remember that shit?

02:31:57.000 Look at this shit.

02:31:58.000 This mouse is like, man, that shit smells good.

02:32:00.000 Whoops.

02:32:00.000 I'm in there now.

02:32:01.000 I'm dead.

02:32:01.000 Can't get out.

02:32:02.000 So is it slippery on the sides?

02:32:04.000 Does the plant do anything?

02:32:05.000 The whole thing is just super slippery.

02:32:06.000 Like the mouse, it has a delicious smell.

02:32:09.000 So the mouse comes there and just falls right in the hole.

02:32:12.000 What if it's an accident?

02:32:13.000 A frog, bitch.

02:32:14.000 Boom.

02:32:15.000 Venus flytrap eats a fucking frog, son.

02:32:18.000 Ugh.

02:32:20.000 And how does the Venus flytrap actually eat it?

02:32:22.000 Crush it to death?

02:32:22.000 What if it's an accident?

02:32:24.000 What if it's not trying to eat it?

02:32:25.000 It's like just a reaction, and then they just die, and then somehow it just, like fertilizer just feeds it, but it's an accident?

02:32:32.000 Like, that rat that fell in that plant, that could be just like a glitch in the design.

02:32:37.000 Yeah, rats are dumb.

02:32:38.000 Dude, rats are just falling in, and it ends up being fertilizer anyways.

02:32:42.000 Well, all sort of changes in plants or in animals is all like natural selection, right?

02:32:49.000 So there has to be some random mutations and then some of them stick.

02:32:53.000 I think the plant's going, fuck, another rat?

02:32:56.000 Shit, it's going to just smell the place up.

02:32:58.000 God damn it.

02:32:59.000 Or maybe mice were eating it.

02:33:00.000 And slowly but surely figured out a way over millions of years to trick those fucking mice into falling into a pig.

02:33:06.000 I think it's just a coincidence.

02:33:08.000 It's a coincidence.

02:33:09.000 So wait, they fall in there and they starve to death?

02:33:11.000 How do they die?

02:33:11.000 No, they get absorbed by the plant.

02:33:14.000 Is there...

02:33:15.000 I don't know, there's some sort of a digestive breakdown.

02:33:17.000 That just digest them while they're alive?

02:33:19.000 Something happens.

02:33:20.000 Oh, what a shit way to go.

02:33:22.000 It eventually dies in there.

02:33:23.000 But the frog, with the Venus flytrap, I didn't even know they could eat a frog.

02:33:28.000 That's a fucked up way to go.

02:33:29.000 A plant clamps down on you.

02:33:31.000 Imagine if you're walking through the jungle.

02:33:32.000 They need to try to breed gigantic ones of those.

02:33:36.000 Dude.

02:33:37.000 Why can't they?

02:33:37.000 And plant them in your house.

02:33:38.000 That's something you would have, right?

02:33:41.000 You had piranha.

02:33:43.000 What's all the craziest that you had besides piranha?

02:33:46.000 That was the craziest.

02:33:48.000 I was thinking about getting crocodiles at one point.

02:33:50.000 Are they legal or no?

02:33:51.000 You wanted a lion.

02:33:52.000 Exactly.

02:33:53.000 Dude, Venus flytrap, that's gangster.

02:33:55.000 Yeah.

02:33:56.000 And breeding giant ones?

02:33:57.000 Yeah, big ones.

02:33:58.000 Big ones.

02:33:58.000 Hire some scientists, some, what do you call those dudes?

02:34:01.000 Botanists.

02:34:02.000 Triologists?

02:34:03.000 Yeah, triologists.

02:34:05.000 A tree scientist.

02:34:07.000 That's actually a great idea.

02:34:08.000 Someone should do that.

02:34:09.000 Make giant ones.

02:34:10.000 That's your security system.

02:34:11.000 What climate do you need for a Venus flytrap?

02:34:13.000 Why don't you come try to rob me?

02:34:14.000 I dare you.

02:34:15.000 I love it, bro.

02:34:15.000 Perfect.

02:34:15.000 You can grow them here?

02:34:16.000 Yeah.

02:34:17.000 But you know what, as an animal, what a dick you must feel like when a plant catches you?

02:34:21.000 So bad.

02:34:22.000 How fucking humiliating.

02:34:23.000 Imagine if you were walking through the jungle and you got caught by some plant that they didn't know about yet.

02:34:28.000 Because there's like...

02:34:29.000 Hundreds of thousands of different species in the Amazon, and there's places in the Amazon that people just don't go.

02:34:35.000 There's no one there.

02:34:36.000 And if there are people, they're like these uncontacted tribes, they find these villages, like, what the fuck are you doing here?

02:34:41.000 And they're like, what are you?

02:34:43.000 Like, there's people to this day that are like these uncontacted tribes in the middle of the Amazon.

02:34:48.000 I read somewhere that 90% of the bugs in the Amazon don't have names because they just evolve so quick and they just can't keep up with the evolution.

02:34:56.000 I don't know if that's true or not.

02:34:57.000 Oh, no.

02:34:57.000 There's a bunch of bugs that don't have names there.

02:34:59.000 But I'll tell you this.

02:34:59.000 I got tricked into going to Costa Rica once.

02:35:03.000 I love Costa Rica.

02:35:04.000 I thought we were going to Costa Rica, party Cancun.

02:35:06.000 I was thinking Cancun the whole time.

02:35:08.000 Going to Costa Rica, a bunch of people went.

02:35:10.000 I'm thinking Cancun, Cancun.

02:35:12.000 I didn't know we were going into the jungle.

02:35:14.000 We went into the jungle and went at night to sleep in the jungle?

02:35:18.000 A mansion in the jungle.

02:35:20.000 Oh, that's a mansion I can handle.

02:35:21.000 But still, you're in the middle of the jungle.

02:35:23.000 And at night, holy shit, I just doused my...

02:35:26.000 I bought all the off at the...

02:35:28.000 They had a village and they had a little convenience store.

02:35:30.000 I cleaned them out because I'm scared of bugs and I didn't want to really let anybody know that I was a big pussy about bugs.

02:35:36.000 I got tricked into going...

02:35:38.000 I literally...

02:35:39.000 I used off as gel in my hair and put it all over my face because I knew when that sun went down, it was going to get nuts.

02:35:46.000 Even in the mansion, you were worried about getting bitten?

02:35:47.000 We were all hanging out The outside is so hard.

02:35:49.000 And the mansion has open ceilings.

02:35:53.000 It's open air.

02:35:55.000 Dude, it was a complete nightmare.

02:35:56.000 But my point is, at night, every night, we'd all sit in front of the pool.

02:36:01.000 First, you'd see all the frogs coming out of nowhere.

02:36:03.000 And that first night, it was so trippy.

02:36:06.000 The guys that lived there go, you're going to love these frogs.

02:36:08.000 Don't be scared.

02:36:09.000 They're the ones that are going to save your ass.

02:36:10.000 All these frogs are everywhere and all of a sudden the bugs just start coming out and it really is like Braveheart.

02:36:15.000 It's a bunch of frogs and you see them.

02:36:17.000 You don't have to wait.

02:36:18.000 You just see them just going after bugs.

02:36:21.000 It's just a war.

02:36:22.000 And the guy that lived in the house that was watching the house, he goes, you're going to love this.

02:36:26.000 It's just chaos.

02:36:27.000 You're in the middle of the jungle.

02:36:29.000 What was that?

02:36:29.000 They're preventing you from getting bitten by just eating the fucking bugs.

02:36:32.000 The off was preventing that.

02:36:32.000 I was cool.

02:36:33.000 They didn't come around me, but I swear, only once did I ever see a bug of the same species.

02:36:39.000 They were all moths that looked like mosquitoes, that looked like centipedes, that looked like stick.

02:36:46.000 They were all different.

02:36:47.000 And it was all open air, too, right?

02:36:49.000 So they were flying in your room and shit?

02:36:50.000 Dude.

02:36:53.000 I could talk about this for an hour, but they tricked me.

02:36:56.000 It was a nightmare.

02:36:59.000 Did they trick you on purpose?

02:37:00.000 Because the people that liked it, they're the kind of people that have a giant spider moth lens on their shoulders.

02:37:08.000 You know, like one of those dudes?

02:37:10.000 You know what I mean?

02:37:11.000 Yeah, they're unafraid of bugs.

02:37:12.000 You know those dudes that don't give a shit about bugs?

02:37:14.000 If you like Costa Rica, if you want to move there, you're 100% one of those guys that doesn't mind bugs.

02:37:20.000 Did you have a net around you when you slept?

02:37:21.000 You're supposed to, but no one told me to bring a fucking net, and there was no more nets.

02:37:25.000 You had to bring your own net?

02:37:26.000 What a shithole.

02:37:27.000 I walked in there, as soon as we're driving in this bus through the jungle, I'm going, Oh my god.

02:37:34.000 How many days?

02:37:35.000 Seven.

02:37:36.000 It was a nightmare.

02:37:38.000 Every night was a nightmare, but I had to keep it inside because there was girls and I was single.

02:37:44.000 It was like a slasher movie.

02:37:48.000 And so I didn't say anything.

02:37:49.000 I just knew it.

02:37:50.000 I'm like, damn, I thought it was going to be like Cancun.

02:37:53.000 Shit.

02:37:53.000 So we get to the mansion.

02:37:55.000 We get to the mansion.

02:37:57.000 And they go, your room's there.

02:37:58.000 Your room's there.

02:37:59.000 Everyone's got their own rooms.

02:38:00.000 There's a couple couples.

02:38:01.000 They had a room.

02:38:02.000 And as soon as I'm already tripping out going, fuck, when the sun comes down.

02:38:06.000 Holy shit.

02:38:06.000 I'm a bitch.

02:38:07.000 Big, gigantic vagina when it comes to bugs.

02:38:11.000 Moths scare the shit out of me.

02:38:12.000 I'm a big pussy.

02:38:13.000 And we're going into the jungle?

02:38:15.000 That's all I was thinking about.

02:38:16.000 Oh my god.

02:38:17.000 Oh my god.

02:38:18.000 So as soon as I walk into my room, I notice that it's all open air.

02:38:23.000 And I look up, and there's about 40, 50 bees in my room.

02:38:27.000 40, 50 bees.

02:38:28.000 Are they nesting in your room?

02:38:29.000 They're just flying all over the fucking place.

02:38:31.000 So I drop my bags, and I go downstairs, and the guy that's watching the mansion, old Vietnam vet white guy, who left civil...

02:38:37.000 All those guys that live down there, they leave their jobs, they leave their family, they try a new life, then they hate it, and now they can't go back.

02:38:43.000 Now they can't go back, because they left everything.

02:38:45.000 But anyways, so...

02:38:47.000 I went downstairs and I talked to this Vietnam vet.

02:38:49.000 I'm like, is there supposed to be a bunch of bees in my room?

02:38:52.000 Like, ah, just turn on the ceiling fan on low.

02:38:55.000 Don't turn it too high.

02:38:57.000 You just want it to be uncomfortable for them, and then in a couple hours they'll be gone.

02:39:00.000 They don't like that little breeze.

02:39:02.000 I'm like, okay, all right.

02:39:04.000 And I'm thinking, what about at night when the bugs just flood in?

02:39:09.000 And he said, oh, you need a net to sleep in.

02:39:13.000 I'm like, shit, where do you get those?

02:39:15.000 They're usually sold out.

02:39:17.000 They were sold out.

02:39:18.000 There was no net.

02:39:19.000 So I slept every night.

02:39:21.000 Every night.

02:39:22.000 First of all, I was complaining about the bees.

02:39:25.000 I was like, I had to let it out.

02:39:27.000 I held it in.

02:39:28.000 And I said, dude, do you guys have bees in your room?

02:39:30.000 They go, yeah, we got bees too.

02:39:31.000 I'm like, oh my god.

02:39:32.000 So I started complaining about bees.

02:39:34.000 And then a girl goes, okay, Captain B-Watch, we get it.

02:39:38.000 You don't like bees.

02:39:39.000 And then at that point, I'm like, fuck, I gotta shut the fuck up.

02:39:41.000 No more peep out of me.

02:39:43.000 No, if someone calls you Captain B-Watch, cunt is the appropriate response.

02:39:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:39:48.000 So I never said shit.

02:39:49.000 I held it in.

02:39:50.000 But every night was a nightmare.

02:39:51.000 I slept in a sheet.

02:39:53.000 Like completely covered and you could just hear and then we had to take a leak.

02:39:59.000 The bathroom, again, if you like that, you don't care about bugs.

02:40:03.000 So they want crazy shit like a bathroom.

02:40:05.000 When you open the door and there's a bathroom, there's no walls and there's no ceiling.

02:40:08.000 It's like an outside bathroom.

02:40:10.000 They like that shit.

02:40:12.000 They like that shit.

02:40:13.000 Oh, it's cool.

02:40:14.000 People that don't mind bugs.

02:40:16.000 If you like the jungle, if you like the jungle, that means you don't mind bugs.

02:40:20.000 I think 60% of the population don't mind bugs.

02:40:24.000 40% are terrified.

02:40:26.000 I'm terrified.

02:40:27.000 Did you ever see those videos of the guy that pets hornets?

02:40:30.000 I watch videos of this guy.

02:40:32.000 Go on YouTube, there's a guy who will gently stroke wasps and hornets.

02:40:36.000 He has really fucking creepy fingernails, but he touches bees.

02:40:40.000 That's probably my greatest fear is bees.

02:40:42.000 Every night, nightmare.

02:40:45.000 I'll never go to a jungle ever again in my life.

02:40:48.000 Did you get stung by a bee?

02:40:48.000 No, it had too much off on me.

02:40:50.000 I was completely doused and off.

02:40:52.000 Is this the guy who pets the bees?

02:40:53.000 But he actually does it with other bees.

02:40:54.000 This one probably has...

02:40:55.000 How come they're not stinging him?

02:40:58.000 That one probably has no stinger.

02:40:59.000 It's probably a Japanese hornet.

02:41:01.000 They're away from the nest.

02:41:02.000 But this one may not have a stinger.

02:41:04.000 But this guy, he does it on the nest.

02:41:06.000 I've seen guys petting them on the nest.

02:41:08.000 Yeah, this guy killed him in Costa Rica, no problem.

02:41:11.000 That might not have a stinger.

02:41:12.000 He'd fucking love it.

02:41:12.000 I don't know, man.

02:41:13.000 That looks like a stinger to me.

02:41:15.000 People love those things.

02:41:17.000 Honey on their finger and it just fucking, it comes up.

02:41:19.000 Yeah, that thing's trying to jack him, man.

02:41:20.000 Is it trying to sting him though?

02:41:21.000 Yeah, he's just avoiding it.

02:41:25.000 He keeps trying to jack it.

02:41:26.000 I wish I had those powers.

02:41:27.000 I wish there was a pill that could make me feel like that.

02:41:30.000 Why would you want to do that?

02:41:31.000 I would take, like, some pharmaceutical.

02:41:33.000 Get rid of the fear of bugs.

02:41:35.000 Like, you gotta be on it every day.

02:41:37.000 Okay, let me ask you this.

02:41:39.000 What if the shit hit the fan?

02:41:40.000 North Korea blows up the United States.

02:41:42.000 The United States blows up North Korea.

02:41:44.000 We go to war with Russia.

02:41:45.000 We go to war with China.

02:41:46.000 This place is a disaster, but you can live in Costa Rica still.

02:41:50.000 It's safe.

02:41:50.000 You just gotta deal with bugs.

02:41:52.000 Eddie?

02:41:53.000 I would go.

02:41:55.000 You'd get dapped.

02:41:56.000 I would deal with it.

02:41:57.000 You would adapt.

02:41:58.000 You would adapt, but I couldn't.

02:41:59.000 Bugs really...

02:42:00.000 It's a really weird...

02:42:01.000 I don't know how anybody can be comfortable around them.

02:42:03.000 You'd get used to it.

02:42:04.000 I have silverfish in my apartment, and they fucking disgust me.

02:42:07.000 Those little creepy things, they're creepy.

02:42:09.000 Fucking horrible.

02:42:09.000 There's something creepy about them.

02:42:10.000 I was doused.

02:42:11.000 I doused myself every morning with fresh coat.

02:42:13.000 Did that make you feel creepy?

02:42:14.000 I didn't give a shit.

02:42:15.000 No, I mean, like, did it make your body feel weird?

02:42:18.000 Fuck no.

02:42:18.000 It was worth it.

02:42:19.000 The bugs didn't want...

02:42:20.000 I had too much on me.

02:42:21.000 Did you shower?

02:42:22.000 Dude, I put it all over my face, all over my hair, in my balls.

02:42:26.000 I didn't want to get bit in the dick.

02:42:28.000 There's the stuff...

02:42:29.000 You know what lidocaine is?

02:42:31.000 Sounds familiar.

02:42:32.000 Painkiller?

02:42:32.000 Yeah, it's like a numbing cream they put on.

02:42:35.000 I had a bad sunburn once, like real bad.

02:42:38.000 I was in Mexico, and I was sitting out on the beach, and I was not paying attention.

02:42:42.000 And I didn't realize how bad I got burnt.

02:42:44.000 My back was on fire.

02:42:46.000 I mean, it was like serious, serious pain, especially if I'd start sweating.

02:42:49.000 And so I got some of this lidocaine stuff.

02:42:52.000 And it says, like, only put, like, two pumps of this shit.

02:42:55.000 Put it on your back.

02:42:56.000 Of course, I put, like, 13 pumps.

02:42:58.000 I put it all over my back, because my back is in agony.

02:43:00.000 And then, like, an hour plus later, I started feeling, like, shit.

02:43:06.000 Like, nervous, like, sketchy, like, shaky.

02:43:10.000 And I was like, oh my god, I've got, like...

02:43:11.000 This is, like, almost like a...

02:43:13.000 Like a cousin of cocaine, you know?

02:43:16.000 It's like it's doing something to me.

02:43:17.000 It's not like getting me high.

02:43:20.000 Did you want to pee in the house?

02:43:21.000 No, no.

02:43:22.000 I felt shaky and creepy.

02:43:23.000 Did you want to have sex?

02:43:24.000 I didn't want to eat.

02:43:25.000 I didn't want to do anything.

02:43:26.000 Well, probably didn't it go into your skin right to your fucking central nervous system.

02:43:29.000 100%.

02:43:29.000 What if it got too long as fuck?

02:43:30.000 Like a dick hard as a rock, but it's numb.

02:43:32.000 Do you have any line of cane, bro?

02:43:33.000 But it makes your dick numb.

02:43:34.000 That's like the thing.

02:43:35.000 It's a numbing cream.

02:43:37.000 My dick would wilt with a numbing cream.

02:43:39.000 I need to feel it.

02:43:40.000 When I was a kid, my problem...

02:43:44.000 When I first started having sex young, I was 13. My girlfriend was 13. She talked me into it.

02:43:49.000 I didn't want to have sex.

02:43:50.000 I was cool with dry humping, but...

02:43:52.000 I was cool with that.

02:43:53.000 I was really aggressive.

02:43:54.000 It took like 10 months to get to dry humping.

02:43:57.000 It took a long time.

02:43:58.000 But once I got to dry humping, I would not...

02:44:00.000 She would not...

02:44:00.000 We were done.

02:44:01.000 We never got beyond.

02:44:02.000 We hit a big wall.

02:44:03.000 We plateaued.

02:44:04.000 But my problem...

02:44:06.000 We ended up having sex.

02:44:07.000 And after the 10th time, she started crying.

02:44:10.000 And I asked her, what's going on?

02:44:11.000 She goes, this is not what I thought it was going to be like.

02:44:15.000 And I didn't know what the fuck I did wrong.

02:44:16.000 So I told my brother who was older and he was really experienced with girls at that point.

02:44:20.000 And the first thing he said is...

02:44:22.000 Well, how long you fucking her?

02:44:23.000 I said, I don't know.

02:44:25.000 Minute?

02:44:26.000 90 seconds?

02:44:27.000 I don't know.

02:44:27.000 He goes, dude!

02:44:29.000 That's why she started crying.

02:44:30.000 Dude, you gotta hold that shit.

02:44:32.000 So I had a problem.

02:44:33.000 I was premature ejaculation.

02:44:35.000 Like, that was my big problem.

02:44:38.000 So my brother gave me this cream called, it was called Stay Hard.

02:44:43.000 It's out in the porno shops, absolutely.

02:44:45.000 Old school shit.

02:44:46.000 It was called S-T-A, just without the Y, hard.

02:44:50.000 And I used that just to, you know, so I could last a couple more minutes.

02:44:55.000 It didn't really work.

02:44:56.000 I remember guys would always say that.

02:44:57.000 They'd always talk about that.

02:44:58.000 I'd say, yeah, the reason one of those guys could do that, they'd put this shit on their dick so they don't feel anything.

02:45:01.000 Yeah.

02:45:02.000 That's why they could fuck so long.

02:45:03.000 Yeah.

02:45:04.000 It worked for five minutes for me, and then my shit just went right through it.

02:45:07.000 First time I almost came, I was getting blown.

02:45:10.000 Me and my friend were hanging out, and I had my dick through a Hulk doll, and my friend is blowing me.

02:45:14.000 I didn't know what cum was, so I felt the cum coming, so I ran to the toilet and stood over it, and nothing happened.

02:45:19.000 It was a real dud.

02:45:21.000 What's that?

02:45:22.000 This dude that I know that was in the porn business told me that back in the day they used to literally inject some sort of chemical into the vein in their dick.

02:45:33.000 Cavergette they use.

02:45:34.000 To make their- what is it?

02:45:35.000 Cavergette.

02:45:36.000 They still do that.

02:45:36.000 But it can fuck your dick up so bad it can turn purple or black because the blood doesn't leave it.

02:45:41.000 It's called cavergette.

02:45:44.000 I've talked to guys who have used it, and one guy said that his dick almost died?

02:45:50.000 No, no, no.

02:45:51.000 I think he needed to have the blood drained, but he had a real problem with it, and he said he wouldn't do it again.

02:45:56.000 What if it got so bad in the porn industry that they got their own form of USADA? They were testing porn stars for Viagra.

02:46:03.000 Like it wasn't fair.

02:46:05.000 If they tested porn stars for Viagra, the business would collapse.

02:46:07.000 Can you imagine?

02:46:07.000 You'd go back to those 1970s days when John Holmes had a limp snake.

02:46:11.000 Yeah.

02:46:11.000 He was trying to like shove it in chicks.

02:46:14.000 Or Arbola.

02:46:15.000 You remember Arbola?

02:46:16.000 He looked, he was the fucking, the worst looking guy ever.

02:46:18.000 But John Holmes, isn't that the guy with the giant dick?

02:46:21.000 Yeah, yeah, he died today.

02:46:22.000 Johnny Watt, yeah.

02:46:23.000 Out of all medications ever invented, Isn't Viagra the most effective?

02:46:29.000 That's the one that works the best.

02:46:30.000 There's a side effect.

02:46:31.000 It was done for your heart.

02:46:32.000 Huh?

02:46:32.000 It's bad for your heart.

02:46:33.000 It was made for your heart.

02:46:34.000 I mean, it was a side effect that you worked on.

02:46:36.000 Yeah, but now...

02:46:37.000 It's wonderful.

02:46:38.000 But the side effects of it, like, pretty mild stuff.

02:46:41.000 Stuffy nose.

02:46:42.000 Yeah.

02:46:42.000 But how many people are dropping dead of that?

02:46:45.000 Are people dropping dead of Viagra?

02:46:47.000 What does it say?

02:46:49.000 Penile fibrosis from this caverject is one of the...

02:46:52.000 Oh, caverject?

02:46:53.000 Penile fibrosis.

02:46:54.000 What is that?

02:46:55.000 What's penile fibrosis?

02:46:57.000 That sounds like a dick disease.

02:46:59.000 You're saying this like we would know what the fuck that is.

02:47:01.000 You have to explain that shit to us.

02:47:03.000 It's like psoriasis of the dick.

02:47:05.000 Deformed penis shape, yeah.

02:47:07.000 Deformed penis shape?

02:47:08.000 Yeah, that probably sounds like it stays that way.

02:47:10.000 I wonder what it looks like.

02:47:12.000 Maybe it curves down.

02:47:13.000 Do you want me to look it up?

02:47:15.000 Nah.

02:47:15.000 Nah, that's good.

02:47:16.000 Damn, there's some KOs tonight.

02:47:19.000 I guess we missed a bunch of KOs.

02:47:22.000 So we found out that Brendan Schaub is a fucking genius.

02:47:27.000 He's a soothsayer.

02:47:29.000 Is that the word?

02:47:30.000 He sees the future.

02:47:32.000 He's a prognosticator.

02:47:33.000 He's dead right.

02:47:34.000 He's right.

02:47:35.000 He couldn't give it to Golovkin unless he killed Canelo.

02:47:39.000 I wonder what the general public thinks about the decision.

02:47:42.000 Whether or not they think it was a good decision.

02:47:46.000 We don't know him, but we're insulated.

02:47:48.000 I wanted to hear that interview.

02:47:50.000 He didn't speak English anyways, right?

02:47:52.000 No.

02:47:53.000 Forget what he thinks.

02:47:55.000 I'm sure he thinks he won.

02:47:56.000 I would like to see...

02:47:58.000 I don't think he thinks he won.

02:47:59.000 But what if he says, like, you know what, I didn't win.

02:48:01.000 He deserves it as a bad decision.

02:48:03.000 What if he says something like that?

02:48:04.000 That would be ballsy.

02:48:06.000 That's a ballsy move.

02:48:07.000 Someone said that recently in the UFC, right?

02:48:09.000 There was someone.

02:48:10.000 Who was that?

02:48:11.000 He won a bad decision and he's like, you know what, I didn't win.

02:48:15.000 Who was that?

02:48:17.000 I don't know, man.

02:48:18.000 I see too many fucking fights.

02:48:21.000 Are you going to be there on October 7th?

02:48:24.000 For Tony's fight?

02:48:26.000 Fuck yeah.

02:48:27.000 Vegas?

02:48:28.000 Yeah.

02:48:29.000 It's gonna be insane, man.

02:48:31.000 He's training like a fucking machine, dude.

02:48:34.000 I'm sure he is.

02:48:35.000 Holy shit.

02:48:36.000 His jujitsu is sharper than ever.

02:48:39.000 Man.

02:48:41.000 You know, it's gonna be a great fight.

02:48:43.000 It's gonna be a great fight.

02:48:44.000 Very interesting fight.

02:48:45.000 Big step up for Kevin Lee.

02:48:47.000 Yeah, he's an animal.

02:48:49.000 He is.

02:48:49.000 He's a beast.

02:48:50.000 He's explosive.

02:48:50.000 He's fast.

02:48:51.000 He's got a really good rear naked choke.

02:48:53.000 He likes getting the back and putting anacondas in, body triangles.

02:48:57.000 He likes that.

02:48:58.000 He likes that a lot.

02:48:59.000 Super well-rounded.

02:49:00.000 Yep, yep.

02:49:01.000 And surging.

02:49:02.000 He's like a surging young guy.

02:49:03.000 You know, only like 25. But you gotta kill Tony to beat him.

02:49:06.000 You really do.

02:49:07.000 You gotta kill him.

02:49:08.000 He's a savage.

02:49:09.000 There's no way.

02:49:10.000 He's gonna fight to the death.

02:49:12.000 Does he rent the same house every time when he goes up to Big Bear?

02:49:15.000 No, a different house.

02:49:16.000 Yeah.

02:49:17.000 You ever see Tito's place?

02:49:18.000 I think it was still for sale a while back.

02:49:20.000 We just work out at his house.

02:49:21.000 Just turn the garage out, turn it into a little jujitsu room, and we just fucking work.

02:49:26.000 Is he still fighting?

02:49:27.000 Tito?

02:49:28.000 Yeah, he's got a couple more fights going on.

02:49:30.000 He's think he's supposed to fight Chael Sonnen again, and he wants to fight Chuck Liddell, I think.

02:49:36.000 Does Chuck have any interest in that?

02:49:38.000 Yeah, he needs that cash.

02:49:40.000 Tito used to have the sweetest setup up there.

02:49:42.000 He had crazy big log houses, like two of them, and one of them his fighters would stay in that he was training with, one of them he would stay in, and he had a whole gym set up with a full-size octagon, the whole deal.

02:49:53.000 It was pretty fucking dope.

02:49:54.000 And it was for sale for a while.

02:49:56.000 I don't know if anybody bought it, but Tito was one of the first UFC fighters to realize that.

02:50:01.000 Just fucking hit up the Big Bear, man.

02:50:03.000 Get that work in up there.

02:50:04.000 It's worth it.

02:50:04.000 How old is Tito?

02:50:06.000 I would say now he's probably 37, 38. Oh, I thought he was a lot older than that.

02:50:11.000 Wow.

02:50:11.000 And you feel by going up to Big Bear?

02:50:13.000 Find out how old Tito Ortiz is.

02:50:13.000 I really thought he was a lot older than that.

02:50:15.000 I've been aware of him, I guess, since 2000. You know, when you do a camp up there, you feel like you've done everything right.

02:50:21.000 You've done everything you can.

02:50:23.000 So mentally, just being up there.

02:50:26.000 Yeah, right.

02:50:27.000 Mentally.

02:50:27.000 Yeah.

02:50:28.000 You think like, I'm up in Big Bear.

02:50:30.000 That's like, there's nowhere else to go.

02:50:32.000 That's the spot right there.

02:50:33.000 Is that as high as you can train?

02:50:34.000 I think in California.

02:50:36.000 It's smart.

02:50:37.000 You don't want to go any higher.

02:50:39.000 Like I said, the best guys now, most of the time, they try to work at sea level and sleep up high.

02:50:46.000 Like for endurance sports.

02:50:47.000 Is that what Glovgen does?

02:50:49.000 He doesn't work out in Big Bear?

02:50:50.000 No, I think he works out up there too.

02:50:51.000 Whatever the fuck he does.

02:50:52.000 Yeah.

02:50:53.000 Don't doubt that shit.

02:50:54.000 Because that guy went 100% all 12 rounds, and he wasn't tired at all at the end.

02:51:00.000 Well, for sure, it's definitely beneficial.

02:51:02.000 The question is, is it the maximum amount of benefit?

02:51:05.000 It doesn't need to be more maximum.

02:51:07.000 Maybe it does.

02:51:08.000 Maybe he could have had an extra burst.

02:51:10.000 Check this out.

02:51:10.000 You're right.

02:51:11.000 We know what Big Bear does by watching Glovkin.

02:51:15.000 Doing it the new way might be better, but who's proven that?

02:51:19.000 Let me see a fight.

02:51:20.000 Let me see a high-level fight like that.

02:51:22.000 Let me see 12 rounds like that.

02:51:24.000 Oh, you went down.

02:51:25.000 You trained at sea level and then slept.

02:51:28.000 I mean, I could see that working, but we already know what the Glovkin style works.

02:51:32.000 We already know that.

02:51:33.000 We know that.

02:51:34.000 It's a good point.

02:51:35.000 Why fuck with it?

02:51:36.000 We know it works.

02:51:37.000 Because if one of them works better.

02:51:38.000 If one of them works better.

02:51:39.000 I think that would be like shit.

02:51:41.000 We don't even know if that even works at all.

02:51:43.000 No, it does work.

02:51:44.000 They definitely know it works.

02:51:45.000 Who does it?

02:51:46.000 I don't know.

02:51:46.000 I know that they've done these studies on oxygen utilization and, you know, they do...

02:51:52.000 NIST? Do they do those studies?

02:51:53.000 They do what's called VO2 max tests.

02:51:55.000 No, it's very clear.

02:51:56.000 Like, you could put masks on people.

02:51:57.000 I don't know.

02:51:57.000 I just watched Glovkin against Canelo, and I saw his ass.

02:52:01.000 I wouldn't change shit.

02:52:02.000 I wouldn't go, you know what?

02:52:03.000 This might be better.

02:52:04.000 Imagine if he had 10% more endurance, and he stopped Canelo.

02:52:08.000 And Canelo trains at sea level, which is interesting.

02:52:09.000 I don't think it had anything to do with endurance.

02:52:10.000 I think Canelo is just tough.

02:52:12.000 No, it's because of that woman.

02:52:13.000 That's what you had to do.

02:52:14.000 Canelo had incredible cardio, but Glovekin's cardio was clearly better because Canelo was dropping back.

02:52:20.000 He couldn't keep the pressure.

02:52:21.000 He wanted to rest a little bit.

02:52:23.000 Glovekin was clearly in better shape.

02:52:25.000 What is on Kamaru Usman's shirt?

02:52:28.000 What are all those little gold things?

02:52:30.000 Those are lions?

02:52:31.000 It doesn't matter.

02:52:32.000 As long as it's gold, man.

02:52:33.000 That's all that matters.

02:52:34.000 Gold lions?

02:52:34.000 Look at those glasses.

02:52:35.000 I hope they're not even real glasses.

02:52:37.000 I like those glasses.

02:52:39.000 Come on, man.

02:52:39.000 Those are some dope glasses.

02:52:40.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:52:41.000 I hope they're just dope, clear lenses.

02:52:43.000 My cardio is so fucking terrible.

02:52:45.000 I can't do 10 minutes on a treadmill.

02:52:47.000 You can do 10 minutes on a treadmill.

02:52:49.000 You've got to start at 4, and then work your way up to 5, and then eventually 6. Dude, I'm so tired.

02:52:54.000 This is the apnea.

02:52:55.000 I walk up the steps, and I'm like, ugh, I shouldn't be feeling this.

02:52:58.000 It's fucking awful.

02:52:59.000 You gotta do something about that.

02:53:00.000 I know.

02:53:01.000 I might get the surgery again and then go with the mat.

02:53:03.000 Because Matt keeps telling me, take jiu-jitsu!

02:53:05.000 But I'm exhausted all the time.

02:53:06.000 I really want to take it, but it's like that weird...

02:53:09.000 That sucks, dude.

02:53:10.000 Yeah, it's fucking awful.

02:53:11.000 Sleep apnea is rough.

02:53:12.000 It's a rough thing, man.

02:53:14.000 Yours is all fucked up, too, because it's like central nervous system stuff, right?

02:53:17.000 It's not...

02:53:17.000 It's both kinds.

02:53:19.000 Both kinds.

02:53:20.000 My fucking blows.

02:53:22.000 Speaking of which, let's wrap this bitch up.

02:53:23.000 I gotta head to the comedy store.

02:53:25.000 Can I leave a couple dates?

02:53:27.000 Fuck yeah.

02:53:28.000 October 10th, Tuesday, October 10th at the Ice House, we're doing me and Sam Tripoli tinfoil hat comedy.

02:53:34.000 We're gonna just make fun of comedy conspiracy theories.

02:53:38.000 Oh, you're doing his podcast?

02:53:40.000 Is that what it is?

02:53:40.000 He's doing it live?

02:53:41.000 No, no, it's a comedy show.

02:53:42.000 Comedy show at the Ice House.

02:53:43.000 There's nothing but conspiracy theory themes.

02:53:45.000 Oh, you know he's got that podcast, Tinfoil Hat Conspiracy Show.

02:53:48.000 No, exactly.

02:53:49.000 That's why we called it that.

02:53:50.000 Oh, cool.

02:53:51.000 What's the date again?

02:53:53.000 Tuesday, October 10th.

02:53:55.000 October 22nd, EBI 13, Gary Tonin, the lightweights.

02:54:00.000 We're going to have Richie Boogeyman doing a four-man combat jiu-jitsu.

02:54:02.000 And then November 12th is Combat Jiu-Jitsu Worlds 1 with Tonin.

02:54:08.000 Again, he's fighting three weeks before that without strikes.

02:54:10.000 And then Combat Jiu-Jitsu Worlds 1, Gary Tonin's going to fight with palm strikes.

02:54:16.000 We're going to do the same thing.

02:54:17.000 A lot of them.

02:54:17.000 Mac Danzig's doing it.

02:54:19.000 Diego Brandao's doing it.

02:54:21.000 Cole Miller's doing it.

02:54:22.000 Wagner Rocha's doing it.

02:54:24.000 AJ Agazarma's doing it.

02:54:25.000 Nathan Orchard.

02:54:27.000 Dude, it's going to be fucking nuts.

02:54:28.000 Jiu-jitsu with palm strikes.

02:54:30.000 That's a crazy lineup.

02:54:31.000 That's your lineup?

02:54:32.000 Yeah.

02:54:33.000 What date is that again?

02:54:34.000 That's Sunday, November 12th.

02:54:36.000 We're doing it at the Florentine Gardens.

02:54:38.000 People aren't going to remember the date, but what's the website where they can go check out all of it?

02:54:43.000 On Instagram, at Combat JJ Worlds.

02:54:47.000 Combat JJ Worlds.

02:54:48.000 I got my tour kneeling room only.

02:54:51.000 Starts September 22nd in Seattle, and then I just go all the way through February up doing every major city.

02:54:57.000 Oh my god, you're an animal.

02:54:58.000 What are you doing?

02:54:59.000 Just trying to get tired?

02:55:00.000 Um, no, I would love to do another special, man.

02:55:03.000 I gotta do something.

02:55:04.000 I can't, you know, I feel worthless enough when I'm working, much less when I'm not, so I gotta just keep busy.

02:55:08.000 Beautiful.

02:55:09.000 So, jimnorton.com for dates.

02:55:10.000 Alright, fuckers, let's sit.

02:55:12.000 Goodnight, everybody.

02:55:13.000 Bye!

02:55:13.000 Goodbye.

02:55:18.000 Are you going to the comedy store?

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