The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion

00:00:05.000 We're live, Fighter and the Kid.

00:00:09.000 Sands kid.

00:00:11.000 Brendan Schaub's here.

00:00:12.000 Sands the kid.

00:00:13.000 Sands the kid.

00:00:14.000 No, we're not mad at Brian Callen.

00:00:17.000 We love Brian Callen.

00:00:18.000 Brian Callen's just in New York working.

00:00:20.000 So save it, Twitter trolls.

00:00:22.000 Save it.

00:00:22.000 Settle down.

00:00:23.000 Something must have happened.

00:00:24.000 Eddie Bravo.

00:00:26.000 Eddie Brahe's here.

00:00:27.000 No, Eddie Bravo and Brendan Schaub are not upset at each other.

00:00:30.000 Stop it.

00:00:31.000 Stop it, Twitter trolls.

00:00:32.000 Twitter trolls are fucking crazy.

00:00:35.000 Try so hard.

00:00:35.000 They hate each other.

00:00:36.000 Look at the way they look at each other.

00:00:37.000 I saw the way he looked at them when he said that.

00:00:40.000 They hate each other.

00:00:41.000 Meanwhile, we're like, how's your son?

00:00:43.000 How's your kids?

00:00:45.000 Who loves each other?

00:00:47.000 We're talking about the love of our lives.

00:00:50.000 For real?

00:00:50.000 Off camera.

00:00:51.000 People, they hate each other.

00:00:53.000 Shout out to the Colorado Springs Fire Department.

00:00:55.000 Donald Cowboy Cerrone's dad gave me this shirt.

00:00:57.000 Sick.

00:00:58.000 Cowboy's dad works for the Colorado Springs Fire Department.

00:01:01.000 Colorado in the house, son.

00:01:03.000 I will say that I'm a little jelly.

00:01:04.000 I think it feels like you're trying to take Joe away from me.

00:01:08.000 You know what I mean?

00:01:09.000 It feels like that.

00:01:10.000 Rogan?

00:01:10.000 It feels like that to me.

00:01:13.000 I don't want to say nothing.

00:01:14.000 I don't want to talk about it.

00:01:15.000 Isn't that like high school where your new friend gets a friend?

00:01:18.000 Yeah.

00:01:18.000 He's mad because he's trying to take him from him.

00:01:20.000 That becomes a real issue with people.

00:01:22.000 For real.

00:01:23.000 Like fucking grown men sometimes.

00:01:25.000 You know, bro, I mean, you're hanging around with him all the time.

00:01:27.000 I mean, I just wonder.

00:01:28.000 I wonder, bro, what the fuck's going on?

00:01:30.000 I mean, what's happening with our friendship, man?

00:01:32.000 I've had this conversation recently with an older friend.

00:01:36.000 Oh, no.

00:01:38.000 You know, it's also when dudes get older and shit gets stale in their life, you know, people start getting real desperate.

00:01:44.000 They get real weird.

00:01:45.000 If you know a dude who has a job that he doesn't enjoy and he's been doing it for a long time and he's in a relationship that's not real, a whole lot of fun, and, you know, you stop hanging around with him a little bit, it's like, oh my god, like, everything's going dark.

00:01:56.000 Yeah, man.

00:01:57.000 Everything's going dark.

00:01:57.000 Where's the fun?

00:01:58.000 Where's the fucking fun?

00:01:59.000 Where's the fun?

00:02:00.000 There's no fun!

00:02:01.000 Can't hang out.

00:02:02.000 It seems like nowadays with Instagram, The way it's set up in Facebook you can't fucking talk as much shit as you could like eight years ago on the internet when it was like it was like it was cool to have like some stupid screen name like you know red dog 283 or something like that and you're just anonymous there's still some of that like on the underground you know a lot of anonymous dudes there they're like secret private guys see they're sort of anonymous but the problem is their IP addresses are known like you're not really that it's you're only anonymous if

00:02:32.000 someone doesn't look No one's anonymous anymore.

00:02:35.000 If you're posting things, yeah, you might think you are, but even if you're going behind a couple proxies, it's just not hard to find you.

00:02:41.000 It's a weird world.

00:02:42.000 There was a guy that was a troll on Reddit.

00:02:44.000 It's a famous story because he was a real nasty guy, apparently.

00:02:48.000 They found out where he worked.

00:02:50.000 These people went after him.

00:02:51.000 They found out where he worked.

00:02:52.000 They found out who the guy is, and they got him fired.

00:02:55.000 Jesus.

00:02:55.000 He got fired from his job because his fun shit, what he would like to do is he...

00:03:00.000 I mean, if you looked at it from a psychological point of view, you would say, this guy's all bent up and held back at work, and he has some anger issues, and he gets online, and through this anonymous account, he does a lot of mean shit, and he goes after people.

00:03:17.000 From work?

00:03:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:18.000 I think he...

00:03:19.000 I don't remember the whole story.

00:03:20.000 I'd rather him do that than shoot a place up.

00:03:21.000 I mean, who knows what level?

00:03:23.000 I mean, that might not be the choice.

00:03:25.000 It might be just he's an asshole.

00:03:27.000 You'd be surprised.

00:03:27.000 But my point is, they found this guy.

00:03:29.000 They found this guy and they got him fired.

00:03:31.000 And that's just what they can do today.

00:03:33.000 Do you see that nine-year-old?

00:03:35.000 What happened with the nine-year-old?

00:03:36.000 The nine-year-old from getting bullied at school and on the line committed suicide?

00:03:40.000 Nine, kids.

00:03:42.000 Fucking nine.

00:03:44.000 That is so crazy.

00:03:45.000 I wasn't even smart enough at nine to figure out how to hang yourself.

00:03:48.000 Yeah, but you know what?

00:03:48.000 The CIA should go after those people instead of fucking terrorists.

00:03:52.000 It's true.

00:03:52.000 They are terrorists.

00:03:53.000 I mean, they are going after some people.

00:03:55.000 They went after that one kid.

00:03:57.000 There was a kid who was a roommate in college with a kid who was gay.

00:04:02.000 And he knew his friend was gay, so he set up a camera and filmed his friend having sex with a guy.

00:04:09.000 And I don't know if he blackmailed him or said something, and the guy wound up killing himself.

00:04:12.000 So now he's on trial for, I think, I don't know what they're saying, manslaughter maybe?

00:04:17.000 Some new shit.

00:04:18.000 Something awful.

00:04:20.000 There was a similar case where this girl, she knew her friend was manic-depressive, bipolar, and he would reach out to her for help, and she was like, you just need to kill yourself.

00:04:32.000 You just need to kill yourself.

00:04:33.000 And then they have all this texting history, and then she would send them links on how to do it, and then he finally did it.

00:04:41.000 And he texts her, he goes, I think he would do it tomorrow night.

00:04:43.000 She goes, you're so full of shit, you're not going to do it.

00:04:45.000 Let me know if you do, and they end up doing it.

00:04:47.000 So now she's being charged Yeah, she's real young.

00:04:50.000 And here's the problem with that.

00:04:51.000 When you're real young, first of all, they say your brain isn't even really fully formed.

00:04:56.000 Your thoughts don't come in the most logical manner until you're deep into your 20s.

00:05:03.000 I think they say your frontal cortex is...

00:05:06.000 I probably shouldn't be talking at all about science.

00:05:09.000 Bro science!

00:05:10.000 I think the term was about, it was about decision-making and impulsive decision-making, particularly in young men experiencing testosterone for the first time.

00:05:18.000 Thinking about this, think about you're young, right?

00:05:21.000 You're experiencing testosterone when you're 13, 14 years old.

00:05:24.000 So you've had 13 years of confusing life.

00:05:26.000 All of a sudden you've got raging boners all the time.

00:05:29.000 Yeah, and you're so baffled because you're so horny all the time, and sex is everything.

00:05:35.000 It's selling TV shows, it's selling cars, and it's all over the fucking boards.

00:05:41.000 I used to jack off the covers of CDs.

00:05:43.000 Look at those fucking girls in the volleyball games, right?

00:05:45.000 Remember we were talking about that?

00:05:47.000 We were talking about the other day, like, how can they?

00:05:48.000 They're wearing thongs.

00:05:49.000 But the point is, when you're young, you do shit.

00:05:53.000 You might not even understand the consequences of what you're doing.

00:05:56.000 Like, the idea that this girl knew that this guy was going to kill himself, and that being mean was anything other than, for her, just a fun game of being mean.

00:06:03.000 The magnitude of it.

00:06:04.000 Yeah, I don't know if you can really say that they know.

00:06:07.000 I mean, it's awful that it got done.

00:06:09.000 I'm not exonerating her, but I don't know if you could really treat that person like an adult.

00:06:13.000 Then add in head trauma if they played football or did martial arts.

00:06:17.000 Oh, yeah.

00:06:18.000 Oh, yeah.

00:06:18.000 Tried playing football since you were six.

00:06:20.000 Is that you?

00:06:21.000 Yes, sir.

00:06:22.000 Dude, you could be together very well.

00:06:24.000 You'd be surprised when I leave the studio.

00:06:28.000 I get online and just hate people.

00:06:29.000 Did you see the new CTE study that they just released?

00:06:32.000 There's an article that was out today where they're saying that it is not the amount of concussions, it's the amount of time you've been hit in the head.

00:06:40.000 So it's sub-concussive trauma, like just jabs to the face that don't even knock you out.

00:06:45.000 Over long periods of time can be worse.

00:06:48.000 You know, here's, like I was watching HBO Boxing the other night, and when Gennady Golovkin fought, yeah, Kel Brook.

00:06:57.000 Kel Brook.

00:06:57.000 Amazing, amazing fight for as long as it lasted.

00:06:59.000 I understand why Brooks Corner threw him in the towel.

00:07:01.000 I was bummed out that they did, but he was going to get murked.

00:07:04.000 100%.

00:07:04.000 He was getting murked.

00:07:05.000 Live to fight another day.

00:07:06.000 They were smart.

00:07:07.000 They were smart.

00:07:07.000 But I was upset because I was like, God damn, this is a good fight.

00:07:10.000 Me too.

00:07:10.000 And that kid, Cal Brook, is very good.

00:07:12.000 Anyway, point being, Bernard Hopkins is doing the commentary.

00:07:15.000 And I'm listening to him doing the commentary and I'm like, when you see a guy who's that great of a boxer, like Bernard Hopkins, and has been involved in boxing pretty much his whole life, and he's almost, he might be 50 now.

00:07:29.000 I believe he is 50. And the last time he fought, he fought Kovalev and got boxed up.

00:07:35.000 It was a tough fight to watch because you're watching really an older Bernard Hopkins getting hit hard by a murderer.

00:07:41.000 I mean, Kovalev is so good.

00:07:43.000 Top two in the world, yeah.

00:07:44.000 But I was listening to him commentary.

00:07:45.000 When you listen to a guy like that commentate, you're like, well, he talks pretty good now, but what's he going to be like in 10 years?

00:07:51.000 You know?

00:07:51.000 Like, when you hear a guy that talks really well, like deep into his 50s and 60s, like George Foreman, like, how did he pull that off?

00:07:58.000 Some guys keep it together, though, don't they?

00:08:00.000 Yeah.

00:08:00.000 Like, Roy Nelson should be drooling out of his mouth and shit in his pants.

00:08:04.000 Yeah.

00:08:05.000 He's a smart, smart dude.

00:08:06.000 Oh, look at this.

00:08:07.000 Chaz Skelly just did a Maximo Blanco on Maximo Blanco.

00:08:11.000 No, you don't have that guillotine.

00:08:12.000 No, son.

00:08:13.000 Oh, he switched it up.

00:08:15.000 He does have the darts, though.

00:08:16.000 He has the darts.

00:08:16.000 It's over.

00:08:17.000 It's over.

00:08:17.000 Oh, my God.

00:08:18.000 It's over.

00:08:19.000 Oh, Blanco's going out.

00:08:21.000 He's out.

00:08:22.000 He's out, son.

00:08:22.000 He's out.

00:08:23.000 He's out, son.

00:08:24.000 Oh, my God.

00:08:24.000 Tight move.

00:08:25.000 How'd the referee not know he was out right there?

00:08:27.000 Uneducated.

00:08:28.000 That's like Tony Ferguson right there.

00:08:29.000 No, that's Herb.

00:08:30.000 That's Herb.

00:08:31.000 That's Herb.

00:08:31.000 He's the best in the world.

00:08:32.000 Herb knows better.

00:08:33.000 You know what, man?

00:08:34.000 He gave him an opportunity.

00:08:36.000 Maybe his angle.

00:08:37.000 You know what?

00:08:37.000 It's the angle.

00:08:38.000 Herb, I usually give the benefit of the doubt because he's one of the best.

00:08:40.000 I think he is the best.

00:08:41.000 Nothing wrong with going out, though.

00:08:42.000 Him and John McCarthy.

00:08:44.000 Let him go out.

00:08:44.000 I agree, too.

00:08:45.000 You can tap.

00:08:45.000 It's a fight.

00:08:47.000 You're right.

00:08:47.000 I agree, too, because going out doesn't hurt anybody.

00:08:49.000 It looks like it hurts you.

00:08:50.000 It doesn't do anything bad.

00:08:51.000 And even if you do lose some brain cells, what are we doing?

00:08:54.000 We're trying to save brain cells here?

00:08:56.000 It'd be nice.

00:08:56.000 Not in this sport.

00:08:57.000 That's not what this is about.

00:08:59.000 It's about the guys who are sacrificing their brains for us.

00:09:02.000 That's what's going on.

00:09:03.000 I think Herb Dean and John McCarthy are equal.

00:09:06.000 I think they're equal at the very top.

00:09:08.000 I think they're the best in the world.

00:09:08.000 McCarthy means numero uno.

00:09:10.000 Numero uno.

00:09:11.000 As far as dealing with them personally, when they come in the back and just the way I felt, if John McCarthy was in...

00:09:18.000 Was working my fight.

00:09:19.000 I felt so much better.

00:09:20.000 This is a beautiful darse, man.

00:09:22.000 Look how he did this.

00:09:23.000 Yeah, it was so deep.

00:09:23.000 He didn't quite get the guillotine, so he adjusts perfectly because as Maximo rolls out of the guillotine, he rolls right into the darse.

00:09:30.000 Amazing transition.

00:09:30.000 It was beautiful.

00:09:31.000 I bet Chaz has hit that transition a hundred times.

00:09:33.000 You could just tell.

00:09:34.000 You could just tell.

00:09:35.000 Right away you could tell this was his shit, and his arms are long, and it was in deep, and he ain't going nowhere.

00:09:41.000 He's fresh.

00:09:43.000 It's over.

00:09:44.000 And by the look at the guy's face, too, it wasn't really defending right.

00:09:46.000 He should have grabbed the inside of his thigh immediately when he put that on.

00:09:51.000 I would like to hear what him and Herb were just saying to each other.

00:09:53.000 Herb was asking him a question about how he set that up.

00:09:56.000 See, Herb's a legit martial artist, you know?

00:09:58.000 Educated.

00:09:58.000 But he loves it.

00:09:59.000 Like, when he's asking there, he wants to know.

00:10:01.000 Look at this.

00:10:02.000 Dude, they both start off, because that's what Maximo always does.

00:10:05.000 He jumps that guy.

00:10:06.000 Tight move.

00:10:07.000 Yeah, perfect.

00:10:08.000 Look how he set it up so beautiful.

00:10:09.000 No one does that better than Verdum, though.

00:10:10.000 Don't get it twisted.

00:10:11.000 Goddamn, that was beautiful.

00:10:12.000 Yeah.

00:10:13.000 Professional right there.

00:10:14.000 Oh shit!

00:10:15.000 Joe Schilling's in the motherfucking house!

00:10:16.000 Joe Schilling in the building.

00:10:19.000 Joe Chilling just showed up with an 80-pound watch on.

00:10:21.000 How dare you ball so hard?

00:10:24.000 How dare you ball so hard?

00:10:25.000 How dare you ball so hard?

00:10:26.000 Look at that thing.

00:10:27.000 Gold on gold.

00:10:27.000 That's a fancy watch, sir.

00:10:30.000 If I was a girl, I would be attracted to you just because of that watch.

00:10:33.000 That's fancy.

00:10:33.000 Yeah, I would say something about him.

00:10:35.000 He's all tattooed up.

00:10:36.000 He looks scruffy and dangerous.

00:10:38.000 He's got scar tissue.

00:10:40.000 That's just the deal closer.

00:10:41.000 They look at the watch and go, bam, that's it.

00:10:43.000 That's it.

00:10:44.000 He's got money too.

00:10:45.000 Basically, that's what you're saying.

00:10:46.000 I got a lot of cash, bitch.

00:10:48.000 Are you still balling in that crazy Corvette?

00:10:50.000 No, not anymore.

00:10:51.000 What are you driving now?

00:10:52.000 Right now I just have my Range Rover.

00:10:53.000 Oh, just a Range Rover.

00:10:56.000 Just safe and comfortable?

00:10:57.000 Kinetic Motorsports, though, should be something else coming soon.

00:10:59.000 What Corvette was it?

00:11:00.000 A Z06? Yeah, the Z06 Convert.

00:11:02.000 Never mad at that.

00:11:03.000 Z-Convert.

00:11:04.000 It's a scary car.

00:11:05.000 Dope car, man.

00:11:07.000 Yeah, you know what, man?

00:11:09.000 It's interesting to see how far they've taken performance cars, and how far they have left to go, because there's nowhere left to go.

00:11:16.000 Like, those insane Teslas, then when you put them on ludicrous mode, and they're 0-60 in, like, less than three seconds...

00:11:22.000 I don't fuck with the electric.

00:11:24.000 It does nothing for me.

00:11:25.000 It's very fast.

00:11:25.000 My dick goes, huh?

00:11:26.000 Nah.

00:11:29.000 But you bring a fucking nasty-ass split-window stingray or something like that?

00:11:35.000 Yes, sir.

00:11:36.000 But what about the environment, man?

00:11:38.000 I'm sure we'll figure it out.

00:11:40.000 Least of our worries.

00:11:41.000 I just can't believe they haven't figured it out yet.

00:11:43.000 I just feel like there's got to be a way.

00:11:45.000 I read something about China.

00:11:47.000 I don't even know if it was a real article.

00:11:49.000 But they had developed a thing that was like a large building.

00:11:53.000 And it was an air filter.

00:11:55.000 It actually would pull the pollution out of the city air.

00:11:59.000 And they built something.

00:12:01.000 A giant powered filter.

00:12:03.000 Makes all the sense in the world.

00:12:05.000 100% makes sense.

00:12:07.000 It seems like you could completely clean the air, but then the real trick would be to get it to run on pollution.

00:12:14.000 If you had a filter that actually used the carbons in the air as its fuel, and then sucked all that shitty air in and pumped out clean air, you have no problems.

00:12:24.000 There's some smart-ass people who can for sure work on that.

00:12:27.000 Yeah, there's not enough money in it.

00:12:28.000 Absolutely.

00:12:29.000 That's the problem.

00:12:30.000 The car company's like, get the fuck out of here.

00:12:32.000 After the last podcast we did, I remember we were leaving the conversation we had.

00:12:37.000 We got into solar panels.

00:12:38.000 Yeah.

00:12:39.000 And I'm confused as to how they work.

00:12:42.000 You are super confused.

00:12:43.000 Are there guys out there that have solar panels and they're just completely cut off the grid and they're just using all their energy is from those solar panels?

00:12:52.000 100%.

00:12:52.000 But it seems like every time you hear about these solar panels, the way it works is you send the energy back to the city and then they sell it back to you at discounted rent.

00:13:01.000 No, no, no.

00:13:01.000 Something like that.

00:13:02.000 No, no, no.

00:13:02.000 Here's the deal.

00:13:03.000 First of all, if you see someone who is like, I have a friend who has a house that's in Colorado that's completely off the grid.

00:13:09.000 Never been on the grid.

00:13:10.000 And it's all solar panels?

00:13:11.000 All solar panels.

00:13:12.000 Beautiful.

00:13:12.000 They have solar panels and they have a propane backup in case something goes wrong with the solar system or it goes down because it gets so fucking cold there.

00:13:21.000 It gets so cold there.

00:13:22.000 I'm a fucking super solar head.

00:13:24.000 The superpower!

00:13:25.000 Solar power system!

00:13:31.000 If our solar system shuts down...

00:13:33.000 I'm good, Doug.

00:13:35.000 It's all good, baby.

00:13:36.000 I thought we were pretty fucked at that point.

00:13:39.000 Yeah, that's...

00:13:40.000 Electricity is your last concern.

00:13:42.000 But you're dead.

00:13:43.000 Let's see an end of the report.

00:13:45.000 The fucking Earth's boiling.

00:13:47.000 Mars is headed up.

00:13:48.000 It's not going to hit us, but it's going to fuck up some satellites for a while.

00:13:53.000 It's going to miss us by one light year.

00:13:57.000 So, yeah.

00:13:58.000 What they try to do, and this is what happens most of the time in LA, like if you see someone set up a solar power system, it's tricky because it's not really independent.

00:14:08.000 You get your power from the sun, but it pumps right back into the grid.

00:14:13.000 You're connected to the grid still.

00:14:14.000 That's what I'm talking about.

00:14:15.000 But you don't have to be.

00:14:16.000 It's just cheaper.

00:14:17.000 I think in the city...

00:14:18.000 What's the point?

00:14:19.000 Exactly!

00:14:20.000 That's what they're pushing.

00:14:21.000 They're pushing that.

00:14:21.000 They're going, hey!

00:14:22.000 No.

00:14:22.000 It's like, why does the city need, oh, we need some space and we need your roof, you know, just get it.

00:14:28.000 Why are they concerned with that?

00:14:30.000 You keep saying this and you're wrong about that.

00:14:32.000 You keep using that analogy.

00:14:34.000 I hope I'm wrong.

00:14:34.000 Listen, they don't need the power from these people that have solar power.

00:14:38.000 Exactly.

00:14:38.000 That's not what it is.

00:14:40.000 What they're doing is they don't want to disconnect from the grid because they don't want to lose money.

00:14:43.000 First of all, it's really hard to get off that grid.

00:14:47.000 It's really hard to just get on electricity.

00:14:49.000 Callan's been trying for how many months now?

00:14:51.000 He's been doing it for like four months, going back and forth.

00:14:54.000 So what they're doing is they're stepping in.

00:14:55.000 One foot in, one foot out.

00:14:56.000 You've got to be all in.

00:14:58.000 Well, doesn't he have a contract that's doing it?

00:15:00.000 I don't know, man.

00:15:02.000 With Callan, you never know.

00:15:04.000 You do never know.

00:15:04.000 He's your friend.

00:15:05.000 You would know.

00:15:06.000 I mean, I know.

00:15:07.000 He's my friend, too.

00:15:07.000 He's my friend first.

00:15:09.000 You don't play him.

00:15:09.000 Fuck, though, right?

00:15:11.000 So you agree.

00:15:12.000 You're basically saying I was being sarcastic, but that's what I meant.

00:15:15.000 No, no, but what you're saying is you're thinking that somehow the grid needs the power.

00:15:19.000 No!

00:15:19.000 That's definitely not what it is.

00:15:20.000 What it is is it's more expensive.

00:15:22.000 I said that as a joke.

00:15:23.000 It's more expensive.

00:15:24.000 When you just get solar power, okay, you don't need this massive bank of batteries.

00:15:30.000 You don't need a lot of equipment.

00:15:31.000 There's a lot of shit when you go completely off the grid so that when you cut your power off, you're not connected to anything.

00:15:38.000 If you cut your solar off, you're still connected to the regular power grid, and you still get regular power if your solar goes down.

00:15:45.000 It's one of the advantages that people like about staying connected to the grid.

00:15:48.000 You save money, too.

00:15:49.000 The other part is you definitely save money from solar power.

00:15:51.000 And you get a tax rebate.

00:15:52.000 100%.

00:15:52.000 You get a tax rebate.

00:15:53.000 You also can, if you make more power than you use, it actually goes back in the grid and you can get money from it.

00:16:01.000 Boom.

00:16:01.000 That's what it is.

00:16:02.000 But it's not like they need it.

00:16:03.000 Of course not.

00:16:03.000 It's sort of an incentive in a way to stay connected to the grid, which I think, for them, is like a survival technique.

00:16:11.000 Because if everybody in California got solar, and if solar keeps getting better the way everything gets better, you're going to have a solar that's as big as this fucking table, and it's going to be able to power J.Lo's house.

00:16:21.000 That's what I'm talking about.

00:16:23.000 It's expensive.

00:16:24.000 That's why people are doing it.

00:16:25.000 It's getting better and better.

00:16:25.000 It's just really expensive.

00:16:26.000 For now, but it's battery technology needs to improve.

00:16:29.000 There's a lot of issues.

00:16:30.000 Elon Musk is on the ball with that shit.

00:16:32.000 He's created these batteries that sit on your wall.

00:16:35.000 They're hanging on your wall, and they're a much smaller profile than the standard shit that most people have in their houses.

00:16:40.000 So what does it do?

00:16:42.000 Well, they're just large batteries that store the electricity from the solar power system.

00:16:46.000 Okay, so you've got solar panels?

00:16:48.000 Yeah.

00:16:48.000 And then there's a battery.

00:16:50.000 Yeah, you need more...

00:16:51.000 Yeah, it has to be collected.

00:16:53.000 It's like...

00:16:54.000 Have you ever seen those solar things that you can use to charge your phone?

00:16:57.000 They're pretty dope.

00:16:58.000 It's like a laptop.

00:17:00.000 Like you open it up.

00:17:01.000 Yeah, and you lay it...

00:17:02.000 You can just let it sit on a rock, and it'll soak up enough energy from the sun to power your phone at the end of the day.

00:17:07.000 Super lame if you need that.

00:17:09.000 Backpack hikes.

00:17:09.000 My friend Adam, he's actually in Montana right now.

00:17:12.000 He uses that to send these updates from the top of the fucking mountain.

00:17:16.000 That's what he's using for his power.

00:17:18.000 He's got this solar thing and he just unfolds it.

00:17:20.000 That makes sense if you do all that shit.

00:17:21.000 But if you live in LA, don't bring that shit out.

00:17:25.000 Just charge in your car, huh?

00:17:26.000 But if you have a car, yeah, that's probably a good idea.

00:17:28.000 But if you're in an Uber all the time or something like that, what if you're responsible?

00:17:33.000 If you're an Uber, look at that fucking thing.

00:17:35.000 Just charge your cell phone.

00:17:36.000 Ah, let me just get out my fucking backpack full of solar panels.

00:17:41.000 Damn, that's a little too big.

00:17:42.000 Well, no, it folds up.

00:17:42.000 See, it folds up and three panels collapse together so it's like a laptop.

00:17:46.000 It's three iPads.

00:17:48.000 Well, it's not that much bigger than your fucking iPad.

00:17:50.000 There needs to be a solar panel in the back of your goddamn phone just like that.

00:17:52.000 It ain't going like that.

00:17:53.000 Well, that's on the new Fisker cars.

00:17:56.000 Let's get there.

00:17:56.000 Check this out.

00:17:57.000 The new Fisker.

00:17:58.000 They got a new one.

00:17:59.000 You know, they blew up and they kind of went out of business for a while.

00:18:01.000 See, I still wanted one.

00:18:01.000 It's only if they get wet.

00:18:04.000 Well, these apparently won't blow up.

00:18:06.000 What happened was, if you don't know the story, there was a hurricane came.

00:18:09.000 All the ones that were on the dock in North Carolina exploded when the water hit them.

00:18:12.000 I was about to get one too for a steal.

00:18:15.000 So now they have one that has a roof.

00:18:17.000 Check it out, Eddie.

00:18:18.000 Look behind you.

00:18:19.000 That's a Fisker.

00:18:20.000 Goddamn, that thing's sick.

00:18:20.000 So the roof on these things is solar powered.

00:18:23.000 The roof can actually power the car, allegedly.

00:18:27.000 That's crazy.

00:18:28.000 Well, in somewhere like L.A., it totally makes sense, right?

00:18:30.000 Because we have so much sun.

00:18:31.000 In Phoenix, shit.

00:18:33.000 Seattle, go ahead and pass on that car.

00:18:34.000 Yeah, in Seattle, you'll starve to death on the side of the road.

00:18:37.000 It's so hot in parts of the country, you would think that, I mean, you could use all...

00:18:42.000 There's enough heat to power everything.

00:18:45.000 That car's sick, though, fast, too.

00:18:46.000 Does it say it'll pull the whole car?

00:18:49.000 It guarantees about a mile and a half of propulsion per day.

00:18:54.000 A solar roof feeds the main battery and generates about a mile and a half of propulsion per day.

00:18:59.000 That ain't shit.

00:19:00.000 Yeah, that's a waste of my fucking time.

00:19:02.000 What does that mean?

00:19:04.000 A mile and a half per day?

00:19:06.000 Okay, oh, listen to that.

00:19:08.000 Park your car at the airport for a week and get home on the power of the sun.

00:19:12.000 Maybe, if you live seven miles away, but goddamn, you're pushing it.

00:19:16.000 God, I mean, that's stressful.

00:19:18.000 Yeah, what if you hit traffic and you see that meter going down and you turn your radio off and you're like, fuck.

00:19:22.000 You don't want to get off the grid on that one.

00:19:24.000 You want that gas can right there.

00:19:26.000 I like gas.

00:19:28.000 Me too, man.

00:19:29.000 I'm old school.

00:19:30.000 The electricity is a fascinating future for sure, but man, early adopters, right now you're not really an early adopter, you're like a mid-time adopter, but it's a pain in the ass.

00:19:41.000 When I rented one, they don't last that long.

00:19:43.000 I went to the improv and back home, and it was more than a half of a battery.

00:19:48.000 They're just not fun either.

00:19:49.000 Like, I enjoy driving.

00:19:51.000 I love driving.

00:19:52.000 I mean, sit in traffic, I don't, but I love driving.

00:19:54.000 Got a PCH, something like that.

00:19:56.000 In the Tesla, it's just, it's not fun for me.

00:19:58.000 But you had that Prius.

00:19:59.000 How could it not be fun?

00:20:00.000 And I fucking would kick it every time I had to get into it.

00:20:04.000 I sold that thing so fast when the lease was up.

00:20:07.000 So get the shit out of my face.

00:20:09.000 I hated it.

00:20:10.000 You don't think it's fun?

00:20:10.000 I drove a Tesla once.

00:20:12.000 It's not fun as hell.

00:20:14.000 No?

00:20:14.000 Try driving a real sports car.

00:20:16.000 Because like you, oh.

00:20:17.000 Yeah, I don't know, man.

00:20:18.000 And then jumping that, you're like, what?

00:20:19.000 I think they're pretty badass.

00:20:21.000 I see Eddie's point.

00:20:22.000 They're so cool.

00:20:23.000 Finally, an electric car that looks cool, because pimps fucking drive those things, you know what I mean?

00:20:28.000 The Fiskars are badass.

00:20:29.000 Fiskars better looking.

00:20:29.000 Fiskars looks like a Maserati.

00:20:31.000 Fuck the Tesla.

00:20:32.000 Yeah, but the Teslas look cool, right?

00:20:33.000 Correct, sir.

00:20:33.000 Finally.

00:20:34.000 They look better than a Prius.

00:20:35.000 Yeah, they definitely look cool.

00:20:38.000 Like Brian's, that white one, that looks pretty slick.

00:20:39.000 Prius will bum you out.

00:20:41.000 Yeah.

00:20:43.000 It's transportation, though.

00:20:44.000 I mean, that's what it is.

00:20:45.000 There's a difference between a transportation vehicle and, like, that Corvette that you were driving, that Z06 convertible.

00:20:51.000 That thing is just a rollercoaster ride.

00:20:53.000 Yeah, it's like, it's stressful to drive it, too.

00:20:56.000 Is it?

00:20:57.000 It's kind of stressful to drive it.

00:20:58.000 Too much power?

00:20:59.000 It's like too much power.

00:21:00.000 Like, the Ferrari, I like the Ferrari better, but they're about the same, like...

00:21:04.000 Speed-wise, I mean, they're about as fast.

00:21:06.000 If I raced one or the other, it would be just as fast.

00:21:10.000 But in the Ferrari, the passenger is terrified, and you feel like you're in total control.

00:21:14.000 In the Corvette, you're both fucking terrified.

00:21:16.000 You have no control.

00:21:19.000 It's 650 horsepower and 650 torque.

00:21:22.000 It's a lot.

00:21:22.000 Fucking crazy.

00:21:23.000 That's why so many Dodge Vipers, when they first came out, remember the first car really that was on mass production.

00:21:29.000 It was 500 horsepower, 500 pounds of torque.

00:21:31.000 And guys, it was just like crazy eyes off Mr. Deeds.

00:21:34.000 They're like, these things are fast.

00:21:35.000 I'm just running into walls and shit.

00:21:37.000 I have a new Viper.

00:21:38.000 There's a stick, too.

00:21:39.000 Have you seen that new Viper that they have?

00:21:41.000 The new one that's built just for the racetrack, but you could drive it around the street?

00:21:45.000 It's insane.

00:21:46.000 Really?

00:21:46.000 It's insane.

00:21:47.000 It is like the closest thing you can get to a dick on wheels.

00:21:50.000 Like a giant spaceship dick.

00:21:53.000 Oh, they bring it up right now.

00:21:54.000 We all get boners.

00:21:55.000 If you're a car guy, everyone get boners.

00:21:57.000 Pull that thing up.

00:21:58.000 Look at this thing.

00:21:59.000 That fucking thing is so goddamn fast, too.

00:22:03.000 It's just insanely fast.

00:22:05.000 What year is that one, Jamie?

00:22:06.000 2017. 2017. It's a scary-ass car, too.

00:22:10.000 I want that 1993, old-school, 40 G's Viper.

00:22:14.000 They keep taking these things to racetracks and breaking the track record over and over and over again.

00:22:19.000 It's just a monstrous car, but ridiculous to drive.

00:22:23.000 It's the ACR, is that right?

00:22:23.000 Yeah.

00:22:25.000 It's the SRT ACR, I think they call it.

00:22:28.000 Fuck you!

00:22:28.000 They're so sick.

00:22:29.000 It's a V12? I don't know what it is.

00:22:31.000 I think it's a V10. People are getting away from V12s.

00:22:34.000 I think it's a V10. Look at that fucking face.

00:22:36.000 What's the Viper of Ford?

00:22:37.000 Jesus Christ.

00:22:38.000 What's Ford's baby?

00:22:40.000 The GT? Well, Ford has a Ford GT. That thing's sick.

00:22:43.000 That thing is sick.

00:22:44.000 That's an amazing car.

00:22:45.000 The Shelby Cobra.

00:22:46.000 What about Nissan?

00:22:46.000 You see the new one?

00:22:47.000 They got a new one coming out.

00:22:48.000 No, I just remember the GT just looked like...

00:22:51.000 The door?

00:22:51.000 It was just ugly.

00:22:53.000 The door was goofy.

00:22:53.000 Dana White had one of those, I believe.

00:22:55.000 I dig them.

00:22:56.000 What's the monster of Nissan?

00:23:05.000 They make a new one, but it's not like the old one.

00:23:11.000 The old one was like a stick shift, light car, aluminum.

00:23:14.000 The new one is four-wheel drive, turbo, it's automatic.

00:23:17.000 The Nissan GTR, though, at my age, especially your guys' age, you'd feel like a dick driving.

00:23:22.000 Because it's like, are you from Fast and Furious?

00:23:24.000 The first time you ever got high, it was too much.

00:23:27.000 It's kind of like Supra-ish.

00:23:28.000 If you were in high school, you'd be killing it.

00:23:30.000 Yeah, killing it.

00:23:31.000 With a GTR. Yeah, yeah.

00:23:33.000 Say he's Northcutt, pulls up to the club.

00:23:35.000 That's his fucking car.

00:23:36.000 That's what he's got.

00:23:37.000 He has one of those.

00:23:38.000 Is it?

00:23:38.000 Yeah, he has a GTR. It makes perfect sense.

00:23:40.000 It's perfect.

00:23:40.000 Perfect for him.

00:23:41.000 That is handsome.

00:23:41.000 I can't think of a handsome fellow with a slick rod.

00:23:46.000 Slick ride.

00:23:47.000 Those are fun cars, though, man.

00:23:48.000 Who gives a fuck what anybody else thinks when you show up?

00:23:50.000 800 horsepower or something, I think.

00:23:52.000 Listen, man, you think people don't think you're a douchebag when you pull up in that Continental GT? Easy.

00:23:56.000 Bentley.

00:23:57.000 Bentley Supersport.

00:23:58.000 There's only 200 of them.

00:24:00.000 Big difference.

00:24:01.000 Big difference.

00:24:01.000 It's a Bentley.

00:24:02.000 Big difference.

00:24:02.000 That's exactly what I thought when I pulled up and parked outside.

00:24:05.000 I was like, oh, this fucking douchebag.

00:24:08.000 I like the shape of that one the most.

00:24:10.000 That's a dope car.

00:24:11.000 That's a GTR. And that car is silly fast.

00:24:14.000 Stupid fast.

00:24:15.000 And they handle like a dream, man.

00:24:16.000 I rented one of those.

00:24:17.000 You could rent them from Hertz.

00:24:19.000 Hertz rents them in Austin.

00:24:21.000 I rented one for a few days and drove it around.

00:24:23.000 It was amazing.

00:24:24.000 Great car, just not for me.

00:24:25.000 You rented the Hellcat, too, yeah?

00:24:26.000 Yeah.

00:24:27.000 How was that?

00:24:28.000 Fucking awesome.

00:24:29.000 Really?

00:24:30.000 Yeah.

00:24:31.000 Ridiculous.

00:24:32.000 You're laughing when you're driving it.

00:24:33.000 You're like, why can't you make this?

00:24:35.000 Really?

00:24:36.000 Yeah, it's got 660-something fucking, or was it 700?

00:24:40.000 700, right?

00:24:41.000 Almost 750. It's just crazy!

00:24:43.000 Where do you go from there, though?

00:24:44.000 It's crazy!

00:24:44.000 Where does Dodge go from there?

00:24:46.000 Who knows?

00:24:47.000 Well, that's what we're saying, you know, about the evolution of this stuff.

00:24:51.000 They're trying to have unlimited growth in performance cars.

00:24:56.000 It's going to get to some weird place where...

00:24:58.000 I mean, it is already.

00:24:59.000 If you can go and buy one of those Z06s, you could be an 18-year-old kid and go out and buy a Corvette Z06. And for what that is, I realize it's expensive.

00:25:09.000 For what that car's performance is, it's cheap.

00:25:12.000 Oh, yeah.

00:25:12.000 It's a supercar that's affordable.

00:25:15.000 Well, sort of affordable.

00:25:16.000 It's a $90,000 car, right?

00:25:17.000 No, compared to other supercars, though.

00:25:19.000 At what point is the speed...

00:25:20.000 For a supercar.

00:25:20.000 It seems like every year, the 0-60 gets...

00:25:24.000 At what point does it stop?

00:25:26.000 Exactly, that's what we're saying.

00:25:28.000 Well, the electric ones are beating everything.

00:25:31.000 That Ludacris shit, they're getting nuts.

00:25:33.000 Yeah, they're pretty close.

00:25:34.000 I think that...

00:25:35.000 The older model was the insane button and the huss ludicrous button.

00:25:38.000 Cut to ludicrous!

00:25:40.000 Yeah.

00:25:40.000 Like the meatballs or whatever, there's going to be like all those fucking buttons.

00:25:44.000 Ludicrous feed!

00:25:46.000 Ludicrous!

00:25:47.000 It's a weird car, man.

00:25:48.000 It's a weird car.

00:25:49.000 You know, it's ridiculously fast.

00:25:51.000 How fast do you need to go?

00:25:53.000 They're going to get it down to probably like one second.

00:25:55.000 I wonder if the government's going to like step in.

00:25:57.000 I mean, they keep you from doing certain shit.

00:25:59.000 How come they don't keep you from driving motorcycles?

00:26:02.000 I was thinking that while I was watching this guy zip past me on the highway today.

00:26:05.000 It's...

00:26:07.000 With a girl on his back.

00:26:09.000 It's insane.

00:26:09.000 I was like, oh, please don't fall.

00:26:11.000 I'm just watching.

00:26:12.000 I'm going, please don't fall.

00:26:13.000 I don't want to see you guys turn into me.

00:26:15.000 I don't want to pass you on the road.

00:26:16.000 It's so insane.

00:26:18.000 Dude, on Thursday, I was in the Beverly Hills area, and I'm coming down, and I'm at the light.

00:26:25.000 I had a long day.

00:26:26.000 I'm like, goddamn, that was a long day, feeling sorry for myself for whatever reason.

00:26:29.000 And this...

00:26:31.000 Fucking car is making a left-hand turn and these young kids aren't paying attention.

00:26:35.000 They're like talking and looking back probably going 60. I'm like, oh, this ain't good.

00:26:41.000 Kadoosh!

00:26:42.000 The front of the both the cars is basically ripped off.

00:26:45.000 Engine.

00:26:45.000 I mean just a complete shit show.

00:26:48.000 The kids that hit the car get out.

00:26:50.000 They're fine.

00:26:51.000 Like some foreign kids.

00:26:52.000 Girl was pretty hot.

00:26:53.000 Anyways, they get out.

00:26:55.000 But the car that they hit was like a Cadillac CTS or whatever, brand new, with the temp tags.

00:27:01.000 An older lady gets out.

00:27:02.000 I'm watching like, what the fuck is this?

00:27:04.000 This old lady gets out and she's crying.

00:27:06.000 She goes to the side that got hit.

00:27:08.000 Her husband's there and they can't get him out.

00:27:10.000 He's like unconscious, can't get him out.

00:27:12.000 So I'm like, shit, I better do something.

00:27:13.000 So I pull off to the side.

00:27:14.000 I run over.

00:27:15.000 They're finally getting him out and I look at him and his fucking...

00:27:20.000 He must have hit the front and his teeth, his lip, just blood everywhere, man.

00:27:26.000 This guy was gangster.

00:27:27.000 He's like, did you see what fucking happened?

00:27:29.000 Did you see?

00:27:30.000 I didn't want to be a witness.

00:27:31.000 There's a million other people.

00:27:32.000 I'm like, I sure didn't, man.

00:27:33.000 Good luck.

00:27:34.000 I called 911. You didn't want to be a witness?

00:27:37.000 Nah.

00:27:38.000 Well, I helped them, and there's enough people around where they can...

00:27:41.000 There's literally 50 other witnesses.

00:27:43.000 Wow.

00:27:44.000 I don't know if you should have admitted that.

00:27:46.000 Ah, believe me, they had it.

00:27:48.000 They had it.

00:27:49.000 I had to get going.

00:27:50.000 I had to get home to my son.

00:27:51.000 I had to get home to my son, man.

00:27:53.000 I hope they have it.

00:27:54.000 No, they got it for sure.

00:27:56.000 There was literally 50 people around who saw the same shit.

00:28:00.000 They don't need frickin' my play-by-play on it.

00:28:04.000 That sounds a little better.

00:28:06.000 They don't.

00:28:07.000 They're fine.

00:28:08.000 There's cops everywhere.

00:28:09.000 They're fine.

00:28:10.000 CSI was on that shit.

00:28:11.000 So whose fault was it?

00:28:13.000 Was it the kids' fault?

00:28:14.000 The kids, yes.

00:28:15.000 Yeah.

00:28:15.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:28:16.000 Goddamn, man.

00:28:17.000 It is amazing when you think that someone just can give you a car when you're 17 years old.

00:28:23.000 I remember being...

00:28:24.000 Well, I got in a bunch of car accidents when I was 17. Me too.

00:28:26.000 Bad, bad one.

00:28:27.000 But I was so stupid.

00:28:29.000 I was so dumb.

00:28:31.000 I was so dumb and completely reckless, and the idea that someone just gave me a 2,000 pound plus thing with an engine.

00:28:40.000 It's nuts, man.

00:28:42.000 You just barely know how to fucking pay attention to the brakes and the oil, and you're barely, and you're part of this.

00:28:50.000 Now add cell phones into the mix.

00:28:52.000 The kids are addicted to cell phones.

00:28:53.000 They're texting and doing a triangle.

00:28:56.000 Twitter and all that shit.

00:28:57.000 Just gotta shift a little to the right, my friend.

00:29:00.000 Good stack.

00:29:01.000 Just scoot that hip out.

00:29:03.000 Readjust.

00:29:06.000 Nope.

00:29:07.000 Good stacking.

00:29:08.000 Hey, do you, Eddie, do you still do the teepee?

00:29:10.000 Is that still legit?

00:29:11.000 Damn.

00:29:12.000 Remember the teepee?

00:29:13.000 Yes.

00:29:14.000 It's still totally legit.

00:29:15.000 It is, right?

00:29:16.000 I just haven't gone to it in a long time.

00:29:18.000 You gotta be kind of fresh to pull it off.

00:29:20.000 No, it all depends on where your opponent's hands are.

00:29:23.000 Generally, guys...

00:29:27.000 You know, have their hands up here.

00:29:28.000 The teepee's like a triangle variation where you reach behind the knees with an S-grip, right?

00:29:34.000 Was it an S-grip?

00:29:35.000 Yeah, it's like this instead of...

00:29:37.000 Because you don't have to be fully closed, what you're saying?

00:29:38.000 Yeah, you don't have to be fully closed.

00:29:39.000 You actually go all the way up to the ankles.

00:29:41.000 And he's wrapping his arm around your leg so you really can't adjust.

00:29:44.000 So then you just go here, go around, and...

00:29:48.000 It's tight now.

00:29:49.000 Get people to sleep with that shit.

00:29:51.000 It works.

00:29:52.000 Oh, this guy's doomed.

00:29:54.000 Yeah, it's in really, really tight.

00:29:56.000 Cross that arm.

00:29:58.000 All he has to do is keep...

00:29:59.000 This guy's going to keep throwing punches at him.

00:30:02.000 He's going to go out.

00:30:03.000 Yeah.

00:30:04.000 That shit is so tight.

00:30:05.000 That angle, though.

00:30:07.000 Oh, it's over.

00:30:08.000 He's in trouble now.

00:30:09.000 Yeah, pull the head down.

00:30:10.000 He's going to tap.

00:30:12.000 He's about to tap.

00:30:13.000 Nah, he's about to tap.

00:30:14.000 This guy's tough as fuck, man.

00:30:16.000 Damn, that's some good stacking.

00:30:17.000 He's adjusting.

00:30:18.000 Nope, he lost it.

00:30:19.000 He lost it.

00:30:20.000 Wow, he lost it.

00:30:21.000 That's some good stacking right there.

00:30:22.000 Yeah, it really is.

00:30:23.000 But he doesn't have it anymore.

00:30:25.000 Nope, he's out.

00:30:25.000 He's breaking that shit open with his shoulder.

00:30:28.000 The cage is helping him, too.

00:30:29.000 God damn it.

00:30:32.000 Endurance.

00:30:32.000 So much of a factor.

00:30:34.000 You know, I'm starting to listen to Nick Curzon.

00:30:36.000 Schilling, I know you're training with him.

00:30:38.000 I'm starting to listen to him more and more.

00:30:40.000 And one of the things that he said that I was like, wow, that's such a controversial thing to say.

00:30:44.000 He's like, when you're in camp for a fight, you should be doing all strength and conditioning.

00:30:48.000 He goes, you already know how to fight.

00:30:49.000 He's like, you should be literally concentrating almost entirely on your gas tank.

00:30:53.000 I was like, wow.

00:30:55.000 Like, think about that.

00:30:56.000 Like, skill work up until fight camp, preparing for fight camp, massive strength and conditioning.

00:31:02.000 How long would it camp be in his book?

00:31:03.000 It's a good question.

00:31:05.000 And I never understood it, really.

00:31:07.000 It was like, cardio is the most important.

00:31:09.000 How's your cardio?

00:31:13.000 I think it makes sense.

00:31:14.000 It depends what level you're at.

00:31:15.000 If you're CM Punk, go ahead and just kind of mix everything in there.

00:31:20.000 That didn't matter.

00:31:21.000 That didn't matter.

00:31:22.000 I was just saying from experiencing, because he doesn't have...

00:31:24.000 If you're a Joe Schilling...

00:31:26.000 That's rare, though.

00:31:27.000 Yeah, but if you're a Joe Schilling, you have world-class striking, and you're in a striking contest, for sure get in shape.

00:31:33.000 Because you're not going to learn how to throw a jab or a right high kick any better.

00:31:36.000 It's just repetitions, right?

00:31:38.000 So your cardio and strength condition make sense.

00:31:40.000 If you're a young guy, man...

00:31:43.000 I disagree.

00:31:44.000 Well I just think that's his...

00:31:46.000 It's accurate but it's like he's a...

00:31:50.000 Eddie's going to tell you that you should do nothing but work on your jiu-jitsu.

00:31:53.000 I'm going to say you should do nothing but work on your fucking striking.

00:31:56.000 Your boxing coach is going to say you need to work on your skill.

00:32:00.000 Your strength and conditioning coach is going to say the same thing.

00:32:02.000 And the truth is you're going to work on everything all the time.

00:32:06.000 If you're going to do MMA, it's all the time.

00:32:10.000 But here's the other thought, right?

00:32:12.000 When you see a guy like Damien Maia, it's a one-trick pony with one fucking amazing trick.

00:32:19.000 His stand-up is pretty good, though.

00:32:21.000 Damon Myers can stand-up.

00:32:23.000 He's got good stand-up.

00:32:24.000 For sure.

00:32:25.000 But his game is very obvious what he's going to do.

00:32:30.000 It's not like he's mixing up things.

00:32:32.000 You don't know he's going to high-kick you.

00:32:34.000 For a while there, he was trying to kick-box.

00:32:36.000 And losing.

00:32:37.000 And then he changed his whole strategy.

00:32:39.000 He changed the whole...

00:32:41.000 Same thing with Sakuraba towards the end of his career.

00:32:46.000 His strategy was always like, I'm just going to stand with dudes and maybe take them down.

00:32:51.000 Then at the end of Sakuraba's career, he decided, holy shit, I better take dudes down and choke them out because I've been knocked out way too many times.

00:32:59.000 But with Maya...

00:33:00.000 But if Maya fights...

00:33:03.000 But Wonderboy, he's sure as fuck not gonna...

00:33:06.000 We know the gameplay is from both guys.

00:33:08.000 But don't you think that Maia got better at his ground game?

00:33:11.000 I mean, he got better at his overall mixed martial arts game once his stand-up got good enough where he wasn't nervous about it anymore.

00:33:16.000 Like, if you watch him fight, his timing is excellent.

00:33:18.000 And his stand-up defense is very good.

00:33:20.000 Like, his knowledge of when he's in trouble, when he's not.

00:33:23.000 I think he knows who he is, finally.

00:33:25.000 And that's a big part of winning in the octagon.

00:33:27.000 You know, and that part of wanting to be a kickboxer for a few fights, that attitude, I think he needed to go through that.

00:33:34.000 He needed to get through that.

00:33:35.000 Because every jiu-jitsu guy's biggest fear is standing with someone in the octagon and having the whole world watch you get knocked out.

00:33:43.000 They got, you know, generally, it takes a while to get to that point where Joe is.

00:33:48.000 He's going to pass.

00:33:49.000 Yeah, but he's mounting.

00:33:50.000 Look at this.

00:33:50.000 Hanging on to it.

00:33:52.000 Oh, yeah, that's tight.

00:33:54.000 Jesus Christ.

00:33:55.000 I would like to see how his hands are gripped here.

00:33:57.000 But it looks pretty goddamn tight.

00:34:01.000 He's alright?

00:34:02.000 Yeah, he could have got that stopped right there, right?

00:34:04.000 It's hard to tell what he has.

00:34:06.000 Remember that when fucking, was it Takata lied and said that Hoist was choked out?

00:34:12.000 Remember that shit?

00:34:13.000 Takata lied.

00:34:14.000 Was it Takata?

00:34:14.000 Yes, that's right.

00:34:16.000 Was it him?

00:34:16.000 No, it wasn't Takata.

00:34:18.000 Takata's the guy who...

00:34:19.000 It was Yoshida.

00:34:20.000 Yoshida.

00:34:21.000 Oh, he said he was out and I stopped it and he wasn't?

00:34:23.000 Or what?

00:34:23.000 What do you mean?

00:34:23.000 Was it Yoshida?

00:34:25.000 And people were like, you know, they'd post that little gif of him going limp.

00:34:28.000 Right there.

00:34:29.000 Yeah, it was Yoshida.

00:34:31.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:34:32.000 Yoshida, wasn't he an Olympic gold medalist in judo?

00:34:35.000 Some high level.

00:34:36.000 Yeah, I think he was a gold medalist.

00:34:38.000 So he goes for the Ezekiel choke.

00:34:41.000 Hoist is fine.

00:34:42.000 Hoist never taps out.

00:34:44.000 And by the way, Hoist would have just gone unconscious.

00:34:46.000 100%.

00:34:47.000 100%.

00:34:47.000 And he did go unconscious.

00:34:49.000 I mean, there was a fight where he fought Waleed Ishmael.

00:34:52.000 He went unconscious.

00:34:54.000 Yeah, but look.

00:34:56.000 He's fine.

00:34:58.000 They pull him off, and he's wide awake.

00:35:00.000 You can't tell right there, can you?

00:35:01.000 The refs will fuck up.

00:35:03.000 The refs with earpieces.

00:35:05.000 Well, like in the Verdum-Trash Brown fight, the ref fucked up, huh?

00:35:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:35:09.000 Pretty bad.

00:35:10.000 Yeah.

00:35:10.000 Like, you can't have timeouts.

00:35:11.000 Yeah.

00:35:12.000 I wish I got timeouts.

00:35:13.000 You just can't have timeouts.

00:35:14.000 The referee definitely fucked up there.

00:35:15.000 Yeah.

00:35:16.000 That was well played, though.

00:35:17.000 I mean, of course you're gonna do that.

00:35:18.000 Well, I think he was probably thinking about stopping.

00:35:21.000 I mean, his finger was snapped in half.

00:35:23.000 I mean, we couldn't tell what was going on.

00:35:24.000 From a punch, though.

00:35:24.000 Yes, from a punch.

00:35:26.000 But, like, from that ref's perspective, if you're, because sometimes your finger does, you know, grapple or whatever, your finger comes out of the glove, and you're like, whoa, whoa, fix my glove, and then fix your glove.

00:35:34.000 So, like, the ref didn't know until he looked at it.

00:35:36.000 Yeah.

00:35:37.000 The ref didn't actually stopped it, right?

00:35:38.000 The ref did stop it.

00:35:40.000 But that pickup was good because everyone was cool with it.

00:35:42.000 Can you imagine if he would've stopped the fight?

00:35:44.000 That would've sucked.

00:35:45.000 Who cares?

00:35:46.000 You wanted to see the fight.

00:35:47.000 Like, oh, let it go.

00:35:48.000 Fuck it.

00:35:49.000 No, no, we're good.

00:35:49.000 Everyone's good.

00:35:50.000 Well, the way that turned out, keep fighting.

00:35:52.000 Who cares what the rule is?

00:35:54.000 We gotta have rules.

00:35:55.000 But if he had a dislocated finger, I think everybody would agree really quick if there was a button to vote.

00:36:00.000 Say, do we let, do we, give him a couple fucking seconds.

00:36:03.000 His fucking finger is twisted off.

00:36:05.000 But where do you stop it at?

00:36:06.000 Where do you stop it?

00:36:07.000 Ah, fuck, I'm gonna convert my joint hurts.

00:36:09.000 Hold on, time out.

00:36:10.000 Let's restart this shit.

00:36:11.000 You wish you would've stopped it?

00:36:13.000 You have to have rules.

00:36:14.000 There's no exceptions.

00:36:15.000 You have to have rules for a reason.

00:36:16.000 So you wanted it to stop.

00:36:18.000 The rest of that fight was complete shit.

00:36:20.000 I wouldn't mind it.

00:36:20.000 But here's the thing.

00:36:21.000 Fabricio Verdun...

00:36:22.000 Here's the deal, though.

00:36:24.000 According to the ruse, Fabricio Verdun was well within his rights to keep punching.

00:36:29.000 100%.

00:36:29.000 Absolutely.

00:36:29.000 So when he punched him, the referee hadn't stopped, and he was saying he was calling timeout, but you can't really do that.

00:36:35.000 You can't do that.

00:36:36.000 And then the fact that they just kept going afterwards, he decided, I'm just going to fight with a broken finger, which is admirable, right?

00:36:42.000 But it's like, okay, but what would have happened if you didn't stop?

00:36:47.000 I mean, when he broke your finger with that punch, how much different is that than breaking someone's thigh with a leg kick?

00:36:54.000 When they get hurt, you don't stop.

00:36:56.000 You keep going.

00:36:57.000 Think if they stop with a leg kick and be like, hold Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:36:59.000 Fuck, my shit hurts.

00:37:00.000 And there's like, how bad is it?

00:37:01.000 That's not, bro.

00:37:02.000 Keep going.

00:37:02.000 Alright, cool.

00:37:03.000 When someone breaks your forearm, that happens all the time.

00:37:05.000 It happens all the time.

00:37:07.000 Someone blocks a kick and they get their forearm broken.

00:37:09.000 They stop the fight.

00:37:10.000 You know, they stop the fight.

00:37:11.000 Every time.

00:37:12.000 Well, Verdun went into that fight with a broken foot, too.

00:37:15.000 But so, when you're, you know, you catch a punch, and it was one of those weird Chuck Liddell-style overhand rights that kind of literally comes down.

00:37:22.000 On the finger.

00:37:23.000 And it came down on his finger.

00:37:24.000 So weird.

00:37:25.000 Yeah, that is a freak accident.

00:37:27.000 It's a tricky situation.

00:37:29.000 Is it illegal to break your opponent's fingers?

00:37:33.000 No, not like that.

00:37:34.000 You're not supposed to target small joints.

00:37:36.000 Yeah, there's no joint manipulation of the fingers.

00:37:38.000 But since it wasn't on purpose, just like an eye poke.

00:37:43.000 It's not legal, but if it happens, you don't stop the fight.

00:37:46.000 You're just like...

00:37:48.000 Did you see the eye poke?

00:37:49.000 It was an accident.

00:37:51.000 Accident, eye poke, accident, finger snap off.

00:37:54.000 Look at this.

00:37:57.000 Look at this heel hook.

00:37:58.000 He has nowhere to go.

00:37:59.000 He's got no left leg here, too.

00:38:01.000 Left leg's not in play.

00:38:02.000 If he could kick him in the face right now, shit.

00:38:04.000 That'd be a different story.

00:38:06.000 You should be able to.

00:38:07.000 You should be.

00:38:08.000 Didn't one FC chain, didn't they go back to no kicks to the head?

00:38:12.000 Yeah, they had a lot of really bad highlights recently.

00:38:15.000 Some fools getting soccer kicked bad.

00:38:18.000 Well, did you see the Roger Huerta one?

00:38:22.000 Is it online?

00:38:23.000 Can we check that out?

00:38:24.000 I remember seeing one recently.

00:38:25.000 It was fucking nasty.

00:38:27.000 Yeah, I love Roger.

00:38:28.000 Last fight?

00:38:28.000 He fought 170, and Roger fought 155 in the UFC, and he fought a big Brazilian dude.

00:38:34.000 It wasn't his last fight.

00:38:34.000 His last fight, he lost a decision.

00:38:36.000 But it was a bad knockout.

00:38:38.000 So he had a fight since?

00:38:39.000 Yeah, he's had more than one fight since, I believe.

00:38:42.000 I think Brandon Vera in that same league kicked a motherfucker in the face, too.

00:38:45.000 I'm sure.

00:38:46.000 Good luck getting kicked by that dude.

00:38:48.000 See, soccer kicks are very different when there's a cage because you can't get your head out of the way.

00:38:52.000 If it's ropes, you can get your head under the ropes and you can kind of move and get away from things.

00:38:56.000 Here it is.

00:38:57.000 Boom!

00:38:59.000 Show that again, Jamie.

00:39:01.000 Oh!

00:39:03.000 That'll do it.

00:39:03.000 But that's a fight, though.

00:39:05.000 Yeah, well, he was already hurt and in bad place.

00:39:10.000 If it was up to you, Brendan, would you allow that in the UFC or keep it the way it is?

00:39:13.000 I would not keep it the way it is.

00:39:15.000 What about you, Joe?

00:39:16.000 Unless you hate ratings and sponsors.

00:39:18.000 I would totally allow it, right?

00:39:19.000 Totally allow it.

00:39:19.000 The dude's bent over.

00:39:21.000 I'm looking at it from north-south.

00:39:22.000 Remember when those guys used to drop knees from north-south all the time?

00:39:25.000 Yeah.

00:39:26.000 Oh, dude, that was the best.

00:39:27.000 And it changed the way they...

00:39:32.000 The new rule is a down fighter is four points on the ground, not three points on the ground.

00:39:39.000 I like that.

00:39:40.000 So if you have a guy on the ground and he's covering up in the turtle, all you have to do is hold on to one of his arms.

00:39:47.000 You pick one of his arms off the ground, and at least by my definition, you could start kicking him and kneeing him in the face.

00:39:55.000 Right?

00:39:55.000 If you can't hit a downed opponent.

00:39:58.000 If he's on all four and you just take one off.

00:40:00.000 Right.

00:40:00.000 You just pick one up and you start blasting him.

00:40:03.000 The guys were fucking around with it.

00:40:04.000 If he sits up and he's on his knees, now it's only two feet.

00:40:07.000 Or is that four because he's got two feet, two knees?

00:40:10.000 Yeah, is it?

00:40:11.000 I don't know.

00:40:11.000 Is that a downed opponent?

00:40:12.000 What do you consider?

00:40:14.000 A knee counts, right?

00:40:16.000 Right, but two knees.

00:40:17.000 If you're on your knees.

00:40:19.000 Like, okay, so if a guy's down, right, once his hand cuts off the ground, that's when it's legal.

00:40:26.000 But his knees are on the ground, still not legal, right?

00:40:28.000 Is that how it goes?

00:40:28.000 Yeah, still not legal.

00:40:29.000 Right.

00:40:29.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:40:30.000 But if a guy, so if a guy, with the new rules, if a guy had his feet flat on the ground, and he was touching the ground with two hands, and you just pulled one of those arms up, you can do whatever the fuck you want.

00:40:39.000 Yep, correct.

00:40:40.000 Right.

00:40:40.000 Hmm.

00:40:45.000 I think when both fighters are on the ground, you should be allowed to kick to the head.

00:40:48.000 Because I think if a guy can up kick you from the bottom, bullshit, right?

00:40:52.000 You should totally, like when someone's going for an arm bar, you should be able to kick the fuck out of their face.

00:40:57.000 It's fighting!

00:40:57.000 Yeah, like why are you allowed to defend yourself from the bottom or me coming at you, but I can't strike you exactly and it gives you an unrealistic It gives you an unrealistic sense of what's real and not real on the ground Because there's a lot of stuff that goes on in the ground that wouldn't happen if the guy could just kick you in the face Because if you're lying in a weird position the guy just blasting shins to your face You're gonna stop what you're doing and have to readjust and you're gonna have to make gonna make that a part of the equation You're gonna have to prepare for that I think that downward elbow shit on the ground is

00:41:28.000 stupid, too.

00:41:28.000 Poor shit.

00:41:29.000 Total bullshit.

00:41:30.000 Makes no sense.

00:41:30.000 They didn't even change that when they changed the new rules.

00:41:32.000 I don't think they brought it up.

00:41:34.000 If they were going to make that rule about the ice breaking or whatever the fuck their reason was, if I'm standing up and I do that, then okay, yeah.

00:41:40.000 But on your knees, you're not going to have any power to really break.

00:41:43.000 It's not like you're a dangerous...

00:41:45.000 And it's fighting.

00:41:46.000 It's no more dangerous than anything else.

00:41:47.000 Anything that's on the fence, allow it.

00:41:49.000 If there's an argument, allow it.

00:41:51.000 It's fighting.

00:41:52.000 But if everyone collectively says, hell fucking no, then yes, those are the ones.

00:41:57.000 I mean, it's fighting.

00:41:59.000 Don't you think the UFC represents what true fighting really is?

00:42:05.000 100%.

00:42:06.000 It should.

00:42:07.000 There should be that still.

00:42:09.000 Dude, I think we should get rid of the cage.

00:42:11.000 I think they should hold it in a space the size of a basketball arena.

00:42:15.000 Goddammit.

00:42:16.000 And it should be like a basketball floor, and there should be no fucking cage.

00:42:20.000 And they just run forever.

00:42:21.000 This is what I think.

00:42:22.000 Okay, if I'm the king of the world, and I get to make the new rules for the UFC, we get rid of the gloves.

00:42:27.000 No gloves, no hand tapes.

00:42:28.000 That's all bullshit.

00:42:29.000 It's out the window.

00:42:30.000 You should start a show on an Indian reservation.

00:42:31.000 You can do anything you want.

00:42:32.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:42:33.000 That's easy.

00:42:34.000 What about eye gouging and shit?

00:42:35.000 No gloves?

00:42:36.000 Well, you eye gouge, immediate deduction of one point.

00:42:39.000 Immediate.

00:42:40.000 Two eye gouges, you're out.

00:42:41.000 Headbutting?

00:42:42.000 The fight is over.

00:42:42.000 Dude, if you did that on an Indian reservation...

00:42:44.000 Headbutting should be legal.

00:42:45.000 If you got me in an arm bar, can I bite your ankle to get it off my face?

00:42:49.000 No, you can't bite.

00:42:50.000 See, it's not real, Joe.

00:42:51.000 Biting is uncivilized.

00:42:52.000 Biting and eye poking are the only thing that I think of.

00:42:54.000 Not civilized.

00:42:54.000 Here's the thing about biting.

00:42:55.000 What about ball shots?

00:42:56.000 Biting is super dangerous as far as bacteria and stuff like that.

00:42:59.000 I want dudes dying on my show of staff.

00:43:04.000 But blinding and shit, look, we know we can poke each other in the eyes.

00:43:07.000 This is not fighting.

00:43:08.000 Let's agree not to hit the eyes.

00:43:10.000 You can't reach into my package and grab my hog either.

00:43:12.000 Eyes and dick off limits.

00:43:14.000 Don't touch the hog, bro.

00:43:15.000 Head kicks to the back of the head, legal.

00:43:18.000 Elbows to the back of the head, legal.

00:43:19.000 That changes everything.

00:43:20.000 Elbows to the back of the head.

00:43:22.000 You don't even need rear naked chokes.

00:43:23.000 Once they allow the elbows, boom, boom.

00:43:26.000 Legal.

00:43:27.000 All that legal.

00:43:28.000 Soccer kicks legal.

00:43:29.000 You guys are barbarians.

00:43:30.000 Stomps.

00:43:30.000 Soccer kicks legal.

00:43:31.000 Let's do it.

00:43:32.000 But no cage.

00:43:33.000 Rugged fighting champion.

00:43:34.000 RFC. Start your own league.

00:43:36.000 Have that basketball court as a fucking thing.

00:43:38.000 You have a basketball court for basketball and basketball is boring as fuck.

00:43:42.000 How about that?

00:43:43.000 They got that big-ass place for football.

00:43:45.000 Look at that giant space.

00:43:46.000 How about two dudes meet in the middle of a fucking football arena?

00:43:49.000 How about that, son?

00:43:50.000 And go where?

00:43:51.000 And go crazy.

00:43:52.000 God damn it, Joe!

00:43:53.000 The problem with the basketball arena thing is you're going to have to change all these other rules to force them to fight.

00:44:01.000 Exactly.

00:44:01.000 You're going to have to make yellow cards.

00:44:02.000 You have to make all that shit.

00:44:04.000 You let the public decide.

00:44:06.000 Even sparring in an open room, where is it, Big Matt?

00:44:08.000 It becomes one guy who doesn't want to fucking spar, and you're just walking around the room chasing him.

00:44:13.000 Good.

00:44:13.000 Let the 50,000 people that'll come to my shows boo.

00:44:16.000 Boo!

00:44:18.000 By the way, here's another thing I'm doing.

00:44:21.000 Here's another thing I do if I'm king of the world.

00:44:22.000 I bring Ben Askren into the UFC. Immediately.

00:44:26.000 I agree 100%.

00:44:26.000 It's a disgrace.

00:44:28.000 He fucks up everybody.

00:44:29.000 He sunned him.

00:44:32.000 Took them down, manhandled them, did whatever the fuck you wanted.

00:44:35.000 Let's just go over this real quick.

00:44:37.000 Let's just cover this real quick.

00:44:39.000 You'll have CM Punk fight, but not Ben Askren.

00:44:43.000 What the fuck world are we living in?

00:44:46.000 That's money, what are you talking about?

00:44:49.000 Didn't like 5 billion people watch him?

00:44:52.000 He made a ton of money.

00:44:56.000 He made a half a million dollars on paper, what they show, and people were complaining about it.

00:45:01.000 I'm like, do you know how many eyes that guy brought to that show?

00:45:03.000 He's worth that money.

00:45:04.000 He's a very, very famous guy, and I think he handled it really well.

00:45:08.000 As far as his post-fight speech, his interview, the way he talked about it, he handled it really...

00:45:14.000 He gave Mickey Gall a real weird speech to him after it was over.

00:45:19.000 But you've also got to realize, in some cases, you've got to believe in yourself the way I believe in myself.

00:45:26.000 Bitch, I just beat you.

00:45:27.000 You just got familiar.

00:45:29.000 That's not really where I want to get my advice from.

00:45:31.000 He went into WWE mode right away, right?

00:45:34.000 That's his world, man.

00:45:36.000 This is really his first venture into reality.

00:45:39.000 You go out there and you think everything's going to go great because it's gone great your whole life with no competition.

00:45:44.000 And then all of a sudden your first competition is in the UFC. How is it going to go any other way?

00:45:49.000 It's insane.

00:45:50.000 Maybe he liked it.

00:45:51.000 Maybe he was like, fuck him.

00:45:52.000 He says he did.

00:45:53.000 There's no way they let him fight again.

00:45:55.000 There's no way.

00:45:56.000 If he liked it, most people were like, fuck that!

00:45:58.000 I'm not gonna go with my family there and fuck that!

00:46:00.000 He could totally fight again.

00:46:02.000 He could totally fight again.

00:46:03.000 In the UFC, no.

00:46:03.000 But not in the UFC. He's gotta fight as an amateur.

00:46:06.000 Joe, he can't.

00:46:06.000 And he's gotta learn.

00:46:07.000 He ruined that shot.

00:46:08.000 You can't fight an amateur.

00:46:09.000 When you fight pro, you can't fight an amateur.

00:46:11.000 Oh, is that how it works?

00:46:12.000 Yeah.

00:46:12.000 Okay.

00:46:12.000 There's no going back.

00:46:13.000 Well then, you can fight pro.

00:46:14.000 But listen, you just gotta fight people that are of the same ability as you.

00:46:18.000 People that are learning.

00:46:19.000 You know what they should do?

00:46:20.000 Yeah, he should go on like a regional circuit and fight guys with similar experience, have a whole documentary like getting back to the UFC and fucking sell that thing.

00:46:29.000 Yeah, that would be huge.

00:46:30.000 And drop the CM Punk.

00:46:31.000 What's his real name?

00:46:32.000 Phil Brooks?

00:46:33.000 Yeah.

00:46:34.000 You're Phil Brooks, motherfucker.

00:46:35.000 Drop the CM Punk.

00:46:36.000 But I like keeping it because he had that name before he came to WWE. That was his name.

00:46:42.000 That's why he owns it.

00:46:43.000 That's why he's allowed to use it still.

00:46:45.000 And everybody knows him as that.

00:46:46.000 It's a smart move as far as marketing.

00:46:48.000 I think that guy could still go on the regional circuit and fight people that are just starting out.

00:46:53.000 They're just starting out just like him.

00:46:55.000 And he could probably become a competent fighter, a competent professional fighter.

00:47:00.000 But that's something that takes a long time.

00:47:02.000 It's not like he has any handicaps.

00:47:03.000 I love it.

00:47:03.000 I love how positive you are.

00:47:04.000 If he has a will and he has a desire, because he enjoys it apparently.

00:47:08.000 If he has a will and he has a desire and he wants to test himself, I firmly believe that that guy could go and become a competent professional fighter.

00:47:17.000 No, I didn't say that.

00:47:17.000 I said a competent professional fighter.

00:47:20.000 I think he's a smart guy.

00:47:21.000 I think he's a tough guy.

00:47:22.000 I just think this was his first real combat sports experience.

00:47:26.000 And I don't think...

00:47:28.000 I just think they did him a disservice.

00:47:30.000 Granted, he made whatever, seven figures after pay-per-view bonus.

00:47:33.000 I just think they did him a disservice.

00:47:34.000 If he actually wanted to pursue this as a career, Dana, the commission, his coaches went, listen, man, you've got to take the necessary steps like everyone else did because There's no turning back.

00:47:45.000 Once you go to the UFC, man, you're in and out, brother.

00:47:48.000 Well, you know, guys have come back.

00:47:49.000 They've gone to other organizations and come back.

00:47:51.000 At 38 with no skills, trained for two years.

00:47:53.000 It's not likely.

00:47:54.000 It's not likely, but it's also not likely that you become a professional fighter at 37 as well.

00:47:59.000 None of these things are likely, but who cares about that?

00:48:02.000 Well, most people are doing something else by the time they're 38, and it's not their career path.

00:48:07.000 It's very rare that someone decides to go into that at such a late stage of life.

00:48:11.000 But look, if he's in good shape and he's a healthy guy, what he needs to do is, if he wants to learn, just train all the time.

00:48:18.000 Train all the time and take your time in getting involved in competition again.

00:48:22.000 Because you can't get in an argument with someone when you only know four words.

00:48:26.000 Yeah, I like the guy.

00:48:27.000 It's just not going to work, right?

00:48:28.000 And it's the same thing as a fight.

00:48:30.000 He's fighting this kid who...

00:48:32.000 I watched Mickey Gall fight in the UFC's first fight.

00:48:34.000 I'm like, this fucking kid is good.

00:48:36.000 Look how he takes that guy's back.

00:48:37.000 He took that guy's back like a ghost.

00:48:39.000 Mickey Gall has some serious work to do as well in that division.

00:48:42.000 He has a long ways to go.

00:48:44.000 And he dismantled CM Punk.

00:48:46.000 But he's a legit brown belt.

00:48:49.000 Legit brown belt, but he still has...

00:48:50.000 If you look at the spectrum of that division at 170, he has a lot of work to do.

00:48:54.000 Of course, it's an insane division.

00:48:55.000 He has a lot of promise.

00:48:56.000 But he's still very new.

00:48:58.000 Well, that was kind of what CM Punk was saying to him, because he was saying that he didn't belong in the UFC, and the only reason why he was in the UFC was to fight CM Punk.

00:49:05.000 He was kind of saying that.

00:49:06.000 But what the kid's doing is being smart.

00:49:08.000 He's just self-deprecating.

00:49:09.000 He's a smart fucking kid.

00:49:11.000 I like how he called out Sage Northcutt.

00:49:12.000 Me too.

00:49:13.000 Said he was corny.

00:49:13.000 Me too.

00:49:14.000 It was really good.

00:49:15.000 Really good.

00:49:15.000 Jump a few F-bonds.

00:49:16.000 I'd watch that fight.

00:49:18.000 I'd watch that fight.

00:49:19.000 Oh, fuck yeah!

00:49:21.000 Does Sage have a fight coming up?

00:49:23.000 I don't know, dude.

00:49:24.000 That's the heartthrob fight.

00:49:25.000 Those two?

00:49:25.000 Couple one-two cuties.

00:49:27.000 Couple dime pieces going at it.

00:49:29.000 I don't know why Mickey Gall drives.

00:49:31.000 Hopefully something cool.

00:49:33.000 He's going to have to drive American and then shit on the other dude for driving a Japanese car.

00:49:38.000 That way America gets after him.

00:49:40.000 I didn't even know.

00:49:41.000 That fella's got a Japanese car.

00:49:44.000 Hook him up, Trump.

00:49:45.000 Yeah, someone's got to get him up.

00:49:46.000 And not even like a Corvette, like a Camaro.

00:49:48.000 Has to be a Shelby, bro.

00:49:49.000 Mustang.

00:49:50.000 Mustang.

00:49:51.000 The new one.

00:49:51.000 Just shits on him.

00:49:53.000 Juan Canaro back in the action.

00:49:54.000 Kenny Robertson.

00:49:55.000 This is a good fight.

00:49:56.000 Kenny Robertson's slick.

00:49:57.000 Kenny Robertson's slick.

00:49:58.000 Kenny Robertson's the one that hit that weird leg lock.

00:50:00.000 You remember that weird leg lock he got from a scramble?

00:50:03.000 It was a real strange knee bar.

00:50:05.000 I was like, dude, I don't think I've seen one of those before.

00:50:07.000 I don't remember.

00:50:08.000 I'm trying to remember how he hit it.

00:50:11.000 Dude, how about...

00:50:12.000 Oh, here it is.

00:50:12.000 He fought Ben Saunders.

00:50:15.000 Who the fuck is that?

00:50:16.000 Yeah, that's just Kenny Robinson talking.

00:50:18.000 Why, they have it in the video?

00:50:19.000 He's solid.

00:50:19.000 Solid wrestler.

00:50:21.000 Good jiu-jitsu.

00:50:22.000 The knee bars?

00:50:23.000 He's no joke, man.

00:50:25.000 Kenny Robinson is very smart.

00:50:26.000 That was a tough fight.

00:50:27.000 Him and Ben Saunders.

00:50:28.000 That was tough.

00:50:28.000 Yeah.

00:50:29.000 Three hard rounds.

00:50:31.000 Dude, how about your boy Chael Sonnen, Simon Bellator?

00:50:34.000 Good move.

00:50:35.000 Good move, right?

00:50:36.000 Smart move for him.

00:50:37.000 Listen, man, I hope Shane Carwin does it too.

00:50:39.000 Not necessarily that I hope Shane doesn't sign with the UFC. I hope he signs wherever he gets the best deal, 100%.

00:50:44.000 But I think it's good to have guys like Rory.

00:50:47.000 It's good to have legit, world-class fighters over there.

00:50:50.000 I like it.

00:50:51.000 I think competition's good for everything.

00:50:52.000 It's good for everybody.

00:50:53.000 It elevates everybody, everywhere.

00:50:56.000 With Chael, it was a little...

00:50:58.000 Like, last night I was watching Bellator and they had Chael do...

00:51:01.000 You know, he does this whole gangster shit-talking.

00:51:03.000 Remember, he hasn't been around in a while.

00:51:05.000 So when you used to, like, freaking Conor McGregor shit-talking, when CM Punk...

00:51:09.000 It was like Hot Tub Time Machine.

00:51:11.000 Like, it was a little old school.

00:51:14.000 And I talked to Chael yesterday.

00:51:15.000 I love Chael.

00:51:16.000 I fucking love Chael.

00:51:18.000 But I was like, eesh, this is tough.

00:51:21.000 This is old school.

00:51:22.000 It certainly seemed prepared.

00:51:25.000 Yes.

00:51:25.000 Yeah, but isn't that always how he did it?

00:51:27.000 Yeah, but it was more natural.

00:51:30.000 But also, there's no, like, he's calling out Tito Ortiz, you know, and there's, like, no real animosity.

00:51:35.000 And then Tito tweeted back, like, I'm gonna show you who the bad guy is at the bad girl party.

00:51:41.000 I'm like, goddammit, we have two 40-year-olds talking shit on Twitter.

00:51:45.000 Look at Joe!

00:51:46.000 Silence!

00:51:47.000 And I fucking love Joe.

00:51:49.000 I love to see him fight, but seeing his shit talking compared to Conor's, it's like, well, Conor took that torch and ran with it.

00:51:55.000 Yeah, I had dinner the other night with Maynard from Tool.

00:51:57.000 Maynard Keenan is a buddy of mine.

00:51:59.000 And he's in jiu-jitsu.

00:52:01.000 He's a purple belt, loves jiu-jitsu, loves MMA. And we were talking about the UFC, and he goes, God damn it, why the fuck is it becoming a WWE? Yeah.

00:52:08.000 He goes, this is making me sad.

00:52:09.000 He's like, everybody's trying to be Conor McGregor, and they're coming up with these corny fucking pre-fight promos.

00:52:14.000 It's tough, man.

00:52:15.000 And he's like, oh!

00:52:16.000 It makes me just want to not...

00:52:17.000 Because he's just a fucking super smart genius dude.

00:52:22.000 Purest of the sport.

00:52:23.000 And he loves martial arts.

00:52:25.000 So when he sees non-martial artist type behavior, like pro wrestling type behavior, I'm like, look, they're just trying to sell themselves.

00:52:32.000 TJ Dillashaw's talking about it.

00:52:33.000 He goes, I just beat the fucking number two contender.

00:52:35.000 I'm ranked number one.

00:52:36.000 Right.

00:52:37.000 Give me the fucking rematch.

00:52:38.000 What do I got to do?

00:52:39.000 He goes, I'm not a shit talker.

00:52:41.000 I'm not going to do that.

00:52:42.000 I'll tell you, I'm not finding one but that.

00:52:43.000 I went, I don't know if it's enough.

00:52:44.000 Is there any way you can watch like Ric Flair or some shit and just pick up a couple?

00:52:48.000 Yeah, come on.

00:52:48.000 Can you just pick up a few things?

00:52:49.000 Like watch Macho Man and just start spitting some game online.

00:52:53.000 It's sports entertainment.

00:52:54.000 But the thing is, you can't, like, Connor is that guy.

00:52:58.000 That's him.

00:52:58.000 Like, that's how he talks all the time.

00:53:00.000 He's a sharp shit-talker from Ireland, and he knows how to fight, and he knows how to talk, and it's an unusual combination.

00:53:07.000 Yes.

00:53:08.000 Most guys don't know how to talk that know how to fight, and most guys who know how to talk don't know how to fight.

00:53:13.000 Correct.

00:53:14.000 When you can talk that much shit and fight that well.

00:53:17.000 You're a unicorn.

00:53:18.000 Well, he's a unicorn also.

00:53:19.000 He can fight.

00:53:20.000 The mindfuckings he puts on dudes, because he can talk so much shit, the love of all those people that are behind him, all those Irish people, and then the mindfucking from them screaming at you all the time the entire, you know, six weeks up until the fight, and then the shit that he says about you, and the fact that he might very well sleep you.

00:53:39.000 He might very well drop that nuclear left hand on your face.

00:53:42.000 Rumor is Eddie Alvarez and him tangoing.

00:53:45.000 I know a little something that I wish I could tell.

00:53:49.000 Just give me an eyebrow raise.

00:53:54.000 If it was a rumor, there's the Kenny Robertson leg lock.

00:54:00.000 He took it from the back.

00:54:01.000 That's what it was.

00:54:02.000 Crazy, right?

00:54:03.000 Yeah, I remember that one.

00:54:04.000 Damn, motherfucker stretched out.

00:54:06.000 Yeah, see, that shit wouldn't work with me.

00:54:08.000 Yeah, you're too stretchy.

00:54:09.000 But then you got Ron Carnero, who's a jiu-jitsu black belt, really good on the ground.

00:54:13.000 He'll fight forever.

00:54:14.000 Yeah, Carnero's nasty.

00:54:16.000 On the ground, Kenny's gonna have a hard time.

00:54:18.000 He sure did, sir.

00:54:20.000 His jiu-jitsu's very nasty.

00:54:22.000 Very nasty.

00:54:23.000 Yeah, it's an interesting fight, man.

00:54:26.000 With Eddie and Connor?

00:54:28.000 Yeah.

00:54:28.000 If it happens, allegedly, at Madison Square Garden, if it happens, allegedly, in a couple months, maybe it is going to happen.

00:54:34.000 Maybe it is going to happen.

00:54:35.000 But if it does happen, Eddie's a big boy.

00:54:38.000 Do you think that might happen, Joe?

00:54:38.000 Eddie's a big boy, and he can grapple.

00:54:41.000 Freaking grapple?

00:54:41.000 People forget that I'm going to fucking wrestle his ass.

00:54:44.000 He's a fucking grinder, and whatever endurance issues Connor may have, he better iron those fuckers out before you go to town with that guy.

00:54:51.000 You know I'm the biggest Conor McGregor fan on the planet.

00:54:53.000 I love that guy.

00:54:54.000 But looking at his potential opponents at 155 and at 70, it's like, fuck, man.

00:55:00.000 It doesn't look pretty.

00:55:01.000 And Eddie's a rough matchup for him.

00:55:03.000 It's probably his easiest.

00:55:05.000 It really is.

00:55:05.000 I don't think it's an easy one at all.

00:55:07.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:55:07.000 No, no.

00:55:08.000 I'm saying at 55, they're all fucking tough.

00:55:12.000 They are all tough.

00:55:13.000 Stylistically, if you're like, god damn, I guess Eddie's the best matchup.

00:55:17.000 That's saying a lot.

00:55:18.000 Because Eddie's in a fucking nightmare.

00:55:19.000 I don't think Eddie's the best matchup at all.

00:55:21.000 Who would you say is?

00:55:22.000 Well, first of all, Eddie's known for having a chin.

00:55:24.000 He's known for having a chin and known for being able to bounce back from getting hurt.

00:55:28.000 He's got massive heart.

00:55:30.000 And he fights at his best when the chips are on the line.

00:55:33.000 Like in the Dos Anjos fight.

00:55:34.000 Nobody gave him a shot in that fight.

00:55:35.000 Who gave him a shot in that fight?

00:55:36.000 He's probably like at least two to one underdog, right?

00:55:39.000 Right.

00:55:39.000 He's going into that fight with a dominant champion, Rafael Dos Anjos, who just got done stopping Cowboy Cerrone in the first round, working Nate Diaz, beating the shit out of Pettis for five rounds.

00:55:49.000 You're looking at Dos Anjos going, holy shit, this guy might be able to run this division for a long time.

00:55:53.000 And Alvarez clips him.

00:55:54.000 And he looked real good before he clipped him.

00:55:57.000 He looked fast and sharp.

00:55:58.000 He had some sleeper fights before then.

00:56:00.000 We had some bad ones.

00:56:01.000 We didn't see the real Eddie Alvarez until that fight.

00:56:03.000 You're like, that's the fucking Bellator.

00:56:05.000 That's the fucking free agent that we wanted to see.

00:56:07.000 The Gilbert Melendez fight, Andy Pettis fight.

00:56:10.000 You're like, Jesus Christ.

00:56:11.000 He's gotten better.

00:56:12.000 Part of it is he's gotten better.

00:56:13.000 Well, the UFC jitters are real.

00:56:15.000 No matter if you have 30 fights or apparently if you have zero, if you're CM Punk, those jitters are real.

00:56:19.000 Where is he training now?

00:56:21.000 Who, Eddie Alvarez?

00:56:21.000 Is he with your boy, Mark Henry?

00:56:22.000 He's with Mark Henry.

00:56:23.000 That's a big part of it.

00:56:24.000 And Frankie Edgar, and he's wrestling at Rutgers.

00:56:26.000 He's a monster, man.

00:56:28.000 I'm telling you, Mark Henry is a motherfucker, dude.

00:56:30.000 They have Barbosa.

00:56:31.000 They have all those guys.

00:56:31.000 But you look at the top five, and for Conor, it's fucking tough, man.

00:56:35.000 Yeah, it is tough.

00:56:35.000 But I think that's part of the reason why Eddie looks so good now.

00:56:40.000 He looks so fucking sharp.

00:56:41.000 You can't discount the fact he's training with Barbosa, he's training with Frankie Edgar, and he's absorbing from Henry.

00:56:48.000 He's the mastermind of Mark Henry.

00:56:49.000 He's a Bad motherfucker, dude.

00:56:50.000 He's the most slept-on trainer.

00:56:53.000 Mark Henry, the most slept-on trainer.

00:56:55.000 It's because he doesn't want to be in the limelight and he hates that stuff.

00:56:57.000 But if he was more outspoken, I mean, Jesus Christ.

00:57:01.000 He'd be all over the map.

00:57:01.000 Rashad pulled me aside at one of the UFCs and was just going on and on about what a bad motherfucker he is.

00:57:07.000 I've never seen anything like him.

00:57:08.000 He still checks in on me all the time.

00:57:10.000 I don't fight anymore.

00:57:12.000 I worked with him for maybe two or three weeks and he would have, I'm telling you, man, like a pad like this in his basement.

00:57:17.000 I had sores on my feet because I was barefoot in his basement doing footwork nonstop.

00:57:22.000 He had notes for fucking days.

00:57:24.000 Like, he's obsessed with it.

00:57:26.000 Yeah, he's brilliant.

00:57:28.000 Clearly on the spectrum.

00:57:30.000 Makes the best pizza in fucking New Jersey in the world, too.

00:57:32.000 I heard.

00:57:32.000 I heard he's a silly cook.

00:57:34.000 What?!

00:57:36.000 God!

00:57:37.000 That motherfucker's pizza is off the charts.

00:57:39.000 And that's a place where pizza is highly praised.

00:57:41.000 You've got to come with some real pizza if you want to make a living selling pizza in New Jersey.

00:57:46.000 Coaching up world champions and making mean-ass pizza.

00:57:48.000 I don't think that's an easy fight.

00:57:51.000 I don't think there's any easy fights at 150. That's what I'm saying.

00:57:54.000 I'm saying if you look at those top five, none of them are easy at all.

00:57:58.000 The future doesn't look great at 55. See, I can't say that either, because...

00:58:04.000 Look at that top five.

00:58:05.000 Tell me the best matchups.

00:58:07.000 Well, Nate is clearly one of the best.

00:58:09.000 Nate's clearly one of the best 155-pounders.

00:58:11.000 Diaz?

00:58:12.000 Yes.

00:58:12.000 He's better at 55 than he is 70. Yeah, well, 70's not really fighting at 70. I mean, he fought Rory at 70. I'm just saying he fought Conor at 70, and that was a tough outing.

00:58:22.000 He did that because that's what they did the first time when they took the fight last minute notice.

00:58:25.000 He wanted to have the exact same conditions.

00:58:27.000 That's why Conor did it at 70 again.

00:58:29.000 But Nate's a 155-er.

00:58:30.000 And at 155, when he fought Michael Johnson, when he's shredded, he looked at his best, right?

00:58:35.000 He's a better Nate Diaz.

00:58:36.000 Yeah, and if you see the Nate Diaz that beat Michael Johnson at 55, he's one of the best fighters in that division, for sure.

00:58:43.000 Hands down.

00:58:44.000 Not even close.

00:58:45.000 So, Conor just beat him.

00:58:46.000 I mean, obviously a very close fight, very close decision, but I think it was probably a fair decision.

00:58:52.000 I don't have to go over it and score it.

00:58:54.000 I haven't gone over it and scored it.

00:58:55.000 It was a fair decision.

00:58:57.000 I mean, I don't think anyone lost in that fight, but going to the judges, I did have Conor slightly edging that fight.

00:59:05.000 I think you look at the damage done.

00:59:07.000 He did more damage.

00:59:08.000 He dropped Nate.

00:59:09.000 You know what Nate says about that?

00:59:10.000 I saw Nate at the grocery store randomly, and he was saying, That he was falling on purpose to dupe Connor.

00:59:17.000 And he goes, I knew the first two, three rounds were going to be, he's so fast, it's going to be tough.

00:59:22.000 So when he hit me, the plan was to fall down, to get him to follow me down.

00:59:26.000 He goes, because I couldn't take him down, so the plan was to get him to follow me down there.

00:59:30.000 Ooh, that's interesting.

00:59:31.000 That's a risky game plan.

00:59:33.000 That's a very risky game plan.

00:59:34.000 That's from the horse's mouth.

00:59:36.000 That's one of those, is that one of those I meant to do that things?

00:59:39.000 I don't know.

00:59:41.000 I don't know Nate Diaz enough to be like, you serious?

00:59:44.000 That's the Pee Wee Herman defense.

00:59:46.000 Either way, I meant to do that.

00:59:49.000 Either way, Nate's one of the best in the world.

00:59:52.000 He's more of a nightmare at 55 is what I'm trying to get to.

00:59:55.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:59:56.000 He's a tougher fight at 55. I think he fights better when he's lighter.

01:00:00.000 It probably sucks to get down there, but you're lighter and you move faster.

01:00:03.000 He has better cardio.

01:00:04.000 This is going to be a good fight, man.

01:00:05.000 This will be a good fight.

01:00:07.000 Kenny Robertson and Juan Carnero.

01:00:08.000 I haven't watched 30 seconds.

01:00:10.000 Robertson with a nice knee to the body there.

01:00:13.000 So I think what I love about Conor is that that's what he wants to do.

01:00:16.000 I don't think he can make 45 anymore.

01:00:18.000 Me neither.

01:00:18.000 Camp says he can't either.

01:00:20.000 No way.

01:00:20.000 It's just too hard.

01:00:21.000 He looks so bad.

01:00:22.000 He has the 45 belt.

01:00:23.000 He just beat Nate at 70. Then let's say he mercs Eddie Alvarez, so he's the 145-155 champ.

01:00:29.000 What?

01:00:30.000 Then what do you do?

01:00:31.000 I kind of want to see him rematch Aldo, though.

01:00:33.000 I kind of do.

01:00:34.000 I kind of want to see him fight again at 45. When they say it's too tough for him now, without the IVs and stuff.

01:00:41.000 Carneo got the back.

01:00:42.000 This is not good.

01:00:43.000 Ooh, I like how he butterflies that back leg.

01:00:45.000 Let's see if that works.

01:00:46.000 Ooh, look at that.

01:00:47.000 Look at that.

01:00:48.000 Very nice.

01:00:49.000 He squoze his way to the back.

01:00:50.000 Ooh, look at that squeeze.

01:00:52.000 That's nice.

01:00:52.000 Good risk control.

01:00:53.000 I think there's better fights at 45 when you think of Aldo, Max Holloway.

01:00:57.000 Oh, shit.

01:00:57.000 Oh, Kenny, good job recovering.

01:00:59.000 Look, he's got the underhook.

01:01:00.000 Oh, he goes underneath.

01:01:02.000 Underneath, underneath.

01:01:03.000 Deep half.

01:01:04.000 Oh shit!

01:01:05.000 You got it?

01:01:06.000 Conero!

01:01:06.000 Oh, Kenny Robertson with that wrestling.

01:01:09.000 Very nice.

01:01:10.000 Nice escape.

01:01:12.000 Kenny Robertson's got some weird hand movements he does right before he punches, you know?

01:01:16.000 He lets his hands go limp and they wiggle around.

01:01:20.000 I wonder if he does that on purpose.

01:01:22.000 I wonder if there's a strategy behind that.

01:01:25.000 Like maybe to remind himself to fight loose.

01:01:28.000 Hmm.

01:01:30.000 Or maybe it's just a tick.

01:01:31.000 Yeah.

01:01:32.000 Maybe it's like one of those twitches.

01:01:34.000 Like Boss used to write big R's on his hands when he was fighting.

01:01:39.000 For relax.

01:01:40.000 Yeah, make him relax.

01:01:41.000 Yeah.

01:01:44.000 Pancreas.

01:01:45.000 That's so easy said than done.

01:01:47.000 Yeah.

01:01:47.000 Especially when you're fighting someone who just constantly puts pressure on you.

01:01:50.000 Mm-hmm.

01:01:55.000 But going back to that cardio thing, man, when two guys are skillfully very similar, but one guy's just got some stupendous Marv Marinovich-style gas tank, And he knows how to fight, but now he's just got this unbelievable gas tank.

01:02:12.000 You're talking about that Cain Velasquez.

01:02:14.000 Yeah, like, well, Cain knows how to fight, obviously, but the scariest thing about Cain is the volume he puts on it.

01:02:20.000 His cardio's at heavyweight?

01:02:21.000 It's insane.

01:02:23.000 Dude, you tell me a better heavyweight matchup besides maybe Uber Eam and Brock, besides Steve versus Cain.

01:02:30.000 That's the fucking fight of the century, son.

01:02:33.000 It's amazing.

01:02:34.000 Besides a roided-to-the-dick over him versus a juiced-up Brock, which I was all for.

01:02:41.000 I was like, oh, hell yeah.

01:02:42.000 That was sick.

01:02:43.000 But supplement-free Kane versus supplement-free Stipe?

01:02:47.000 Sign me up.

01:02:49.000 It's a great fight.

01:02:50.000 They're very similar men.

01:02:52.000 Stipe is so gangster.

01:02:53.000 Out of the two, which would you rather see, though?

01:02:56.000 Juice City.

01:02:58.000 Not in 2016 or 2017. You're not trying to see juiced up Ream vs.

01:03:07.000 juiced up Brock now.

01:03:08.000 Well, if they hadn't had that first fight, I would.

01:03:10.000 Will you bring them back to the same place they were?

01:03:13.000 Same place they were at the time.

01:03:14.000 Oh, I agree.

01:03:15.000 Al May's first fight in the UFC. Brock making a comeback after losing his title.

01:03:19.000 Nah, I disagree.

01:03:20.000 Steve Avers Kane's the fucking fight man.

01:03:21.000 Listen, you don't have to disagree.

01:03:23.000 We want different things out of this world.

01:03:25.000 That'd be a disagreement.

01:03:26.000 There's nothing wrong with that.

01:03:27.000 I want Jew City.

01:03:30.000 You want Juice City on a football field?

01:03:32.000 I want Pride 2003 on a football field.

01:03:36.000 I think the cage is an artificial boundary and I think it plays a big factor in movement and a big factor in the fight.

01:03:46.000 I mean, how much fucking footwork do you need for a 25-foot or 30-foot cage?

01:03:50.000 I mean, it's a big cage.

01:03:51.000 30 feet's a big cage.

01:03:52.000 Is that bigger than it used to be or no?

01:03:54.000 You could have the cage the way it is.

01:03:56.000 Where do they start at?

01:03:57.000 Have a border where if you pass that border, you gotta get back inside.

01:04:01.000 So, the cage never becomes a factor.

01:04:04.000 So, like, if you're fighting, and you take a guy down, and, you know, his ass scoots outside of the boundary line, but they're still, you know, 50 feet in any one direction, if someone's driving forward, you take that guy, you move him in the middle of the cage, or the middle of the mat, and you assume the same position.

01:04:20.000 That's not hard to do.

01:04:21.000 They did that in Pride all day long.

01:04:23.000 They could do that.

01:04:24.000 They have replays.

01:04:24.000 They could see exactly where a guy was set up.

01:04:26.000 The referee holds on him.

01:04:27.000 Ready, set, fight.

01:04:28.000 And you go back to fighting again.

01:04:30.000 That way there's never any artificial cage that's in the way that helps you get back up to your feet.

01:04:35.000 Everybody would have way harder time getting back up to their feet if there was no cage.

01:04:40.000 If you couldn't wall walk...

01:04:42.000 It's a big factor.

01:04:43.000 And getting the takedown.

01:04:44.000 Oh, yeah.

01:04:44.000 Getting the takedown would be completely different, too.

01:04:46.000 Oh, yeah.

01:04:46.000 Yeah.

01:04:47.000 Drop down, scoop your hands together.

01:04:49.000 Because the guy can't move.

01:04:50.000 He can't keep backing up and pummeling under.

01:04:51.000 But it's hard to take guys down when they're against the fence and they're just leaning on the fence.

01:04:56.000 There's an art to that.

01:04:57.000 Correct.

01:04:57.000 If the fence wasn't there, they'd get taken down easier.

01:05:00.000 Via check.

01:05:01.000 It's a factor.

01:05:03.000 The cage is a factor.

01:05:04.000 I like that factor.

01:05:05.000 It's part of the game.

01:05:06.000 Yeah, me too.

01:05:07.000 There needs to be boundaries.

01:05:08.000 Like a fence wrestling sport.

01:05:10.000 Like, I don't want to watch NASCAR. I don't want to watch it anyways.

01:05:13.000 But it feels like they get slipping around.

01:05:14.000 Elevator fights.

01:05:15.000 And you've got to take the guy down, and the guy's got to use the fence to take him down.

01:05:19.000 You've got, like, a minute to take him down or something.

01:05:21.000 The guys that get really good at that translate to MMA a lot better, right?

01:05:24.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:05:25.000 I think that we would be better off, though, if it wasn't a factor.

01:05:29.000 That's not going to happen.

01:05:30.000 We just think it's too late for that.

01:05:31.000 This is what I think.

01:05:32.000 I think fighting as a sport should be as pure as possible.

01:05:36.000 And it's not as pure as possible.

01:05:39.000 I think kicks on the ground, soccer kicks, stomps, no cage.

01:05:43.000 No gloves.

01:05:43.000 What about mouthpiece?

01:05:44.000 Yes.

01:05:45.000 Mouthpiece is good because if you get punched, it's going to go straight through your fucking lips.

01:05:49.000 Your teeth go through your lips.

01:05:50.000 You can't have that bacteria, Joe.

01:05:53.000 People get stabbed on their knuckles.

01:05:55.000 Rogan's FC. I can see it coming now.

01:05:57.000 You could get staff on your knuckles, though.

01:05:58.000 That is a good point.

01:05:59.000 Because when guys punch guys with bare teeth, like in street fights, they get staff all the time.

01:06:03.000 All the time, yeah.

01:06:04.000 More common than you'd think.

01:06:05.000 And it's real dangerous.

01:06:06.000 If you don't treat it, your fucking hand falls off.

01:06:08.000 Gangrene and shit.

01:06:09.000 Ew, it's nasty.

01:06:10.000 Human mouth is gross.

01:06:12.000 But just between the cage and the soccer kicks on the ground, how different the sport would evolve in five years?

01:06:17.000 It would change.

01:06:17.000 Just how different the techniques you guys would be using, everything you'd be doing.

01:06:22.000 Kicks on the ground to the face they should already do.

01:06:24.000 There would be combos where a guy's mounted like Vanderlei used to do.

01:06:27.000 He'd get the mount, throw a couple punches, then stand up and stomp and walk away.

01:06:32.000 That's a combo right there.

01:06:33.000 If a guy can upkick you, you should be able to stomp him.

01:06:37.000 100%.

01:06:38.000 It changes the game of jiu-jitsu tremendously.

01:06:42.000 Especially with the elbows to the back of the head.

01:06:45.000 Dude, you better make a move quick.

01:06:46.000 You can't get turtled up.

01:06:49.000 You should be able to fuck a dude up for turtling him.

01:06:52.000 How many dudes would just get broken by that, though?

01:06:54.000 How many careers would get caught way short?

01:06:57.000 You see it coming.

01:06:57.000 And after a while, the ref would go, you know, if you do this and hold it for three seconds and the guy didn't move, you stop the fight.

01:07:04.000 You don't have to connect.

01:07:06.000 It was like Gary Goodrich in one of his earlier fights, and he got him in the fucking crucifix.

01:07:11.000 Oh, my God.

01:07:13.000 That was probably the worst knockout I've ever seen.

01:07:15.000 I was thinking of when Gary Goodrich grabbed a guy's dick.

01:07:17.000 Yeah, I went full.

01:07:18.000 The Pedro.

01:07:19.000 What?

01:07:20.000 Yeah, the Pedro, a dude in Brazil.

01:07:21.000 He reached into his pants and grabbed his dick and balls and crushed it.

01:07:24.000 Crushed it.

01:07:25.000 I turned his nuts into peanut butter.

01:07:28.000 For real?

01:07:29.000 That actually happened.

01:07:30.000 There was no rules.

01:07:31.000 There was no rules.

01:07:31.000 Zero.

01:07:32.000 All sweaty and shit.

01:07:33.000 Just crushed him nuts.

01:07:34.000 The dude was wearing briefs.

01:07:36.000 Brazilians like wearing those pro wrestling briefs.

01:07:39.000 Gary Goodrich vs.

01:07:40.000 Oh my god.

01:07:41.000 Vicious groin attacks.

01:07:43.000 That's it.

01:07:43.000 Yeah.

01:07:44.000 Damn, Jamie's good.

01:07:45.000 That's after the fight he's trying to, hey man, you know, I'm just doing my thing.

01:07:47.000 I swear I ripped your dick off.

01:07:49.000 Jamie's on fire.

01:07:49.000 What do you mean doing your thing?

01:07:51.000 Grabbing my dick like that.

01:07:53.000 Squoze your balls and dick.

01:07:54.000 Peanut butter.

01:07:56.000 Yeah, that's not good.

01:07:57.000 So Kenny Robertson on top, Juan Carnero on the bottom looking for the arm triangle, not pulling it off.

01:08:03.000 It's going to be hard to do anything else.

01:08:04.000 I'm excited for Uriah Hall, Brunson.

01:08:06.000 Me too.

01:08:07.000 But he's coming after him.

01:08:07.000 So Eddie, in this position, right, you want to underhook on that side, right?

01:08:11.000 The side that has the half guard.

01:08:12.000 Yeah, the guy on the bottom wants to get the underhook.

01:08:14.000 Obviously the guy on top wanted to keep that underhook and keep that head and arm.

01:08:18.000 And Cornero went right to it.

01:08:19.000 He knows what he's doing.

01:08:20.000 He went right to it.

01:08:21.000 Went right to that undercook.

01:08:22.000 He's not playing.

01:08:23.000 He's trying to go underneath.

01:08:25.000 He's super talented.

01:08:26.000 I was going to say Alex Davis, his manager, was telling me about rolling with him.

01:08:31.000 What a nightmare it is.

01:08:33.000 He's got to get in there and go.

01:08:35.000 You just can't stay there.

01:08:37.000 This is the difference between just straight grappling and grappling a dude like Kenny Robertson's allowed to punch you in the face.

01:08:42.000 Elbow you in the face.

01:08:44.000 It changes everything.

01:08:45.000 Oh, there he goes.

01:08:46.000 He's going to the leg.

01:08:47.000 Oh, shit.

01:08:48.000 Can we do it?

01:08:49.000 Oh, that's good defense.

01:08:51.000 He paid for that, too.

01:08:53.000 He's mounted.

01:08:54.000 He's mounted.

01:08:55.000 Oh, good shrimp.

01:08:59.000 Now he's in butterfly.

01:09:00.000 Let's see what he's got off his back.

01:09:03.000 Now, this is where a rubber guard comes into play.

01:09:06.000 Left, right arm, pin to the mat.

01:09:08.000 I'm not sure he has the flexibility to play rubber guard.

01:09:11.000 But if he could, it's a good place for it.

01:09:13.000 If he had that Eddie knowledge, he could.

01:09:16.000 Well, it's a flexibility issue, too.

01:09:18.000 He's a friend of mine.

01:09:19.000 I gave him the DVD once, but I don't think he's flexible enough.

01:09:22.000 Huh?

01:09:23.000 They're not working for him.

01:09:25.000 He never went to it.

01:09:26.000 That flexibility, son.

01:09:28.000 When someone's a rubber guard player, they go to it right away.

01:09:30.000 You just tell that's their stance.

01:09:31.000 Yeah, it's your comfort zone.

01:09:32.000 He's trying to set it off off of wrist control on the left arm.

01:09:35.000 Nothing wrong with that.

01:09:36.000 As long as you keep that clench.

01:09:38.000 He's keeping that right arm tight.

01:09:39.000 Oh, look at this.

01:09:40.000 Good adjust.

01:09:41.000 Good adjust.

01:09:41.000 Oh, look what he's doing there.

01:09:44.000 Holy shit, that's like a rat guard.

01:09:48.000 Right there.

01:09:48.000 That's what it's called?

01:09:49.000 There's a guard called Rat Guard, and he's doing it.

01:09:51.000 Love the name.

01:09:52.000 Rat it up, rat it up.

01:09:53.000 He's trying to go past that elbow.

01:09:54.000 Wow, it's working.

01:09:55.000 He's trying to go past that right elbow, but he's not sure how to commit it.

01:09:58.000 Oh, shit!

01:09:58.000 He got him.

01:09:59.000 Oh, my goodness, he got him.

01:10:01.000 That's amazing.

01:10:01.000 That guard is legit.

01:10:02.000 Oh, my God, that was amazing.

01:10:05.000 Successful rat there.

01:10:06.000 That was beautiful.

01:10:07.000 Yeah, I gotta look into that.

01:10:08.000 Look at that.

01:10:08.000 And he goes into a mounted triangle.

01:10:09.000 Kenny looked hurt, too.

01:10:11.000 Yeah, that probably did not feel good.

01:10:13.000 That did not look fun.

01:10:14.000 Dude, I need to learn that.

01:10:15.000 Rat Guard is actually the guy who made it up.

01:10:19.000 I forget his name.

01:10:20.000 Best name ever.

01:10:21.000 I love it.

01:10:22.000 Anyways, he's been doing it for like 10 years now.

01:10:25.000 And he always called it Rubber Guard for guys that have no flexibility because I think he had an accident.

01:10:30.000 He had an accident and hips all fucked up.

01:10:32.000 So what Ron was doing right there, that's legit shit.

01:10:36.000 Oh, obviously.

01:10:37.000 It worked.

01:10:37.000 I mean, look what it did.

01:10:38.000 It changed the fight.

01:10:39.000 He kept telling me, it's real, it's real, I swear.

01:10:41.000 I'm like, I don't know.

01:10:42.000 He's looking for that arm triangle.

01:10:43.000 Look at that.

01:10:45.000 Oh, he's gonna try to go for a Kimura now?

01:10:47.000 There it is!

01:10:48.000 That's the guy right there!

01:10:49.000 That's the master rat.

01:10:51.000 Jamie needs a raise.

01:10:52.000 Goddamn, Jamie is the master.

01:10:54.000 Jamie is the master on the ball.

01:10:55.000 And the coffee tonight is extra fucking fresh.

01:10:59.000 That's Caveman coffee, son.

01:11:00.000 But now he turns it off.

01:11:01.000 With a Jamie touch, though.

01:11:02.000 I take back what I said.

01:11:03.000 There it is.

01:11:05.000 So this is Rat Guard.

01:11:07.000 So that second round is over.

01:11:08.000 So he's got the grip down.

01:11:12.000 Hi, Rat Boys.

01:11:14.000 It sounds very rat-like.

01:11:15.000 Listen.

01:11:34.000 There's no way we're watching this whole thing while we're in the middle of a podcast.

01:11:38.000 Just the first control.

01:11:38.000 The first thing he does.

01:11:40.000 If you hate ratings.

01:11:41.000 Watch, watch.

01:11:42.000 Yeah.

01:11:43.000 Just that first little control of you.

01:11:44.000 Show a whole Rat Guard video.

01:11:58.000 That's exactly what he was doing.

01:12:00.000 Yeah.

01:12:00.000 And then he swept him with it.

01:12:03.000 He swept him with it and he turned it into a triangle.

01:12:07.000 Okay, here we go.

01:12:08.000 Round three.

01:12:09.000 Powerful Rat Master.

01:12:11.000 Oh shit, that's gonna blow up now.

01:12:12.000 That's interesting.

01:12:14.000 Juan Carnero on the ball, recognizing all sorts of different moves.

01:12:18.000 That's one of the most important things about Jiu-Jitsu, right?

01:12:21.000 Being able to understand all the new shit that's going on.

01:12:24.000 Yeah, I never went to it.

01:12:26.000 I never bothered playing it, only because I do have the flexibility.

01:12:28.000 I didn't need to do that, but fuck.

01:12:30.000 Seems like an interesting option.

01:12:31.000 I'm sold now.

01:12:32.000 I'm all over it now.

01:12:34.000 See, Carnero's got to be super nervous now.

01:12:37.000 I mean, Robertson's got to be super nervous now, being reversed in a position like that and put in a bad spot.

01:12:44.000 His jiu-jitsu's really good, and he's got good wrestling, so that was a legit action.

01:12:49.000 Oh, reverse, son!

01:12:50.000 Get out!

01:12:50.000 Get out, son!

01:12:51.000 Oh, my goodness.

01:12:52.000 Nice exchange.

01:12:54.000 Nice.

01:12:54.000 Robertson is...

01:12:55.000 Oh, see?

01:12:57.000 First team all dead boy.

01:13:00.000 Get that cardio up, son.

01:13:02.000 I would like to know, like, what is the very best method to prepare?

01:13:08.000 I would really like to know, like, is it possible that Juan Carnero could have done something different and could be like Mighty Mouse here in this third round?

01:13:17.000 Or is it simply a function of being 170 pounds, being a bigger man, cutting the weight down?

01:13:22.000 Is it?

01:13:23.000 I'm sure genetics has something to do with it.

01:13:25.000 For sure.

01:13:26.000 I would You can train your body to gas.

01:13:29.000 That's what real sprinting is.

01:13:30.000 Training your body to gas and recover.

01:13:32.000 Gas, recover.

01:13:33.000 You're on a clock.

01:13:33.000 Gas, recover.

01:13:34.000 Gas, recover.

01:13:35.000 So you do it so much so you could be fucking dead tired in a match.

01:13:39.000 And you're like, I'm going to recover in about 20 seconds.

01:13:41.000 The fights are so unpredictable.

01:13:42.000 You can train your body to do that.

01:13:43.000 It's tough to train like that to a T. I don't think there's a perfect answer.

01:13:49.000 I mean, there may be, but it's about optimization.

01:13:52.000 Correct.

01:13:53.000 How could you take a guy, whether it's Carnero, oh shit, beautiful left hook, or anybody, any fighter for that matter, and train them physically to a perfect state?

01:14:03.000 Like turn Woodley into fucking Demetrius Johnson?

01:14:05.000 Yeah.

01:14:06.000 Well, you wouldn't.

01:14:07.000 I mean, obviously Johnson doesn't have the kind of horsepower that Woodley has either.

01:14:11.000 That's why I'm saying genetics is a huge part of it.

01:14:14.000 Like the vehicle, the vessel you're messing with can only do so much.

01:14:17.000 What I did was swim sprints, and what I liked about that is, first of all, I hate running, but when you're doing swim sprints, no matter how exhausted you get, like you do 20 of them or whatever, that's what I was doing.

01:14:29.000 No matter how exhausted you get at 14, 15, and 16, when you're sprinting across the pool, your breathing has to be perfect.

01:14:36.000 So there's all this chaos going on in your head and you're sprinting.

01:14:39.000 Your breathing has to be perfect or you swallow water.

01:14:42.000 So that's the beauty.

01:14:44.000 And then there's the impact.

01:14:45.000 There's no impact.

01:14:46.000 It's a natural movement.

01:14:48.000 And it makes you focus on your breathing when You know, you're at your worst possible state.

01:14:55.000 I think also for jujitsu, it's really good because it's not just leg dependent.

01:15:00.000 Because when you're running, your arms rarely get tired.

01:15:04.000 What's getting tired are your legs.

01:15:05.000 Like, almost only your legs.

01:15:07.000 Your lungs and your legs.

01:15:08.000 Your arms are obviously playing a part because you're pumping your arms and you're moving.

01:15:12.000 But they're not getting nearly as tired as your fucking legs.

01:15:14.000 Yeah.

01:15:16.000 When you're swimming, your arms get tired as fuck.

01:15:20.000 Tired as fuck.

01:15:21.000 Great for me.

01:15:21.000 And if you wear flippers, I bet your legs get even more work, right?

01:15:24.000 But you can also do flippers on the hands, too.

01:15:27.000 They have those with the hands.

01:15:28.000 You could just doggy paddle.

01:15:30.000 You don't even have to swim.

01:15:31.000 You just have to sprint.

01:15:33.000 Yeah, that's some bullshit, but yeah.

01:15:36.000 You really need to get...

01:15:38.000 If you want to do it right, you can get it with a swim coach so you can get efficient and learn how to really do it.

01:15:43.000 Kane Robertson coming on strong here.

01:15:46.000 Nice jab by Carnero.

01:15:47.000 You can do it on your own.

01:15:48.000 You don't need a trainer.

01:15:49.000 The cool thing about swimming is if you do it on a clock where every time the clock hits 12, you sprint.

01:15:56.000 However it takes you long to get across the pool, it could be 25 seconds, it could be 23 seconds, 27 seconds.

01:16:02.000 You rest until that clock hits 12 again.

01:16:05.000 So what you end up doing is you don't need anybody to tell you to push.

01:16:09.000 You're sprinting for that rest time.

01:16:11.000 It's a mindfuck.

01:16:12.000 That's the beauty of the sprints in the water, too.

01:16:14.000 You're sprinting To rest, because you know if you fuck up and you just kind of give up halfway through, you're going to fuck up the rotation, the clock, and now you've fucked your whole system up.

01:16:23.000 Yeah, I love swimming.

01:16:23.000 You've got to do that 20 times across a pool.

01:16:27.000 You go to 24-hour fitness.

01:16:29.000 It's like a 20-yard pool.

01:16:31.000 I don't know, maybe 30-yard pool.

01:16:32.000 Dude in the ocean if you're a gangster, son.

01:16:34.000 Haunt our arrows running out of gas here.

01:16:36.000 It's kind of hard in the ocean.

01:16:37.000 Where do you stop and where do you go?

01:16:39.000 You stop and a fucking shark gets you.

01:16:42.000 You've got to have a clear start and stop point.

01:16:45.000 Yeah, or you're just doing it for time.

01:16:48.000 Exactly.

01:16:48.000 You can do it for time.

01:16:50.000 That's a whole different scenario.

01:16:52.000 This is just for pure sprinting.

01:16:54.000 Yeah, but you're doing off time until it hits the 12, right?

01:16:56.000 Did they make heart rate monitors that work in the ocean?

01:16:59.000 I don't know.

01:17:00.000 I bought the new fucking iPhone 7 because I thought it could go to the ocean for this reason.

01:17:03.000 Then I find out you can't go in the ocean with it.

01:17:06.000 The iPhone 7 doesn't go in the ocean?

01:17:07.000 Well, that's the salt, though, right?

01:17:09.000 Salt is really bad for it.

01:17:10.000 No, they say the water, like even if you drop in fresh water, you have like a couple minutes until it blows up.

01:17:16.000 It's certified at 30 minutes.

01:17:17.000 Oh, it's not really waterproof?

01:17:18.000 It's like 30 minutes at 9 feet deep.

01:17:20.000 What do you do for cardio?

01:17:21.000 Your cardio must be nuts.

01:17:22.000 Punch people in the face.

01:17:24.000 Smoked cigarettes.

01:17:25.000 You got a big fight coming up.

01:17:28.000 What are you doing for cardio?

01:17:32.000 I'll do a lot of running.

01:17:33.000 Sprints?

01:17:34.000 Yeah.

01:17:35.000 How do you set it up?

01:17:36.000 You don't just go jog.

01:17:37.000 No, I'll jog at least three days a week, three to five miles, and then I'll do sprints.

01:17:44.000 I used to do...

01:17:45.000 How do you do your sprints?

01:17:46.000 One mile sprint.

01:17:47.000 Twice a week.

01:17:48.000 A full mile.

01:17:49.000 As hard as you can go.

01:17:50.000 Yeah, and I would try to keep track of that time.

01:17:51.000 What's your time, son?

01:17:52.000 My fastest time ever, which I think is still on my Instagram, was like a 528 or something like that.

01:17:58.000 That's rolling.

01:17:59.000 And that was somebody in the car, like next to me, yelling at me, like keeping me motivated the whole time and just going to like, I couldn't go anymore.

01:18:05.000 Have you ever gassed in a fight where you lost because you were just gassed?

01:18:09.000 You didn't do proper cardio?

01:18:10.000 Yeah.

01:18:10.000 You have?

01:18:12.000 A number of times.

01:18:13.000 And then after that, you're like, fuck that.

01:18:14.000 I'm going to get on.

01:18:15.000 Your cardio's probably on point next fight, right?

01:18:17.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:18:17.000 That next fight.

01:18:18.000 It's just...

01:18:19.000 You know, there's so many...

01:18:21.000 There's so many aspects of just your daily life that'll fuck up your cardio or fuck up your training camp.

01:18:27.000 Where it's like...

01:18:27.000 You were saying, like, where if Cornero would have done something slightly different.

01:18:31.000 It was like, maybe his girlfriend was pissed off at him.

01:18:34.000 And, you know, you don't know what else happened in his life.

01:18:37.000 It'd just be crazy.

01:18:38.000 And then you're like, well, did I fuck this up because I didn't train properly or because...

01:18:42.000 My fucking car broke down and I couldn't, you know, whatever else happened in your life, so...

01:18:46.000 Interesting.

01:18:47.000 Yeah, like keeping peace in your life with anything you're trying to do.

01:18:49.000 If you can keep peace in your personal life...

01:18:51.000 The home life?

01:18:52.000 Gigantic.

01:18:52.000 Everything, man.

01:18:53.000 Gigantic.

01:18:54.000 Everything.

01:18:54.000 Gigantic.

01:18:55.000 Yeah, or you get sick, or you broke your fucking toe and now you can't run for that last couple weeks.

01:19:00.000 Or there's a lot of guys who are distracted.

01:19:01.000 Or you twisted your knee, or your shoulder joint was fucked up, now I can't do my swim sprints.

01:19:05.000 All the shit that goes along behind the scenes with fighters is...

01:19:10.000 How many guys do you know, Joe, especially in entertainment, being comedians who are out chasing tail all the time and they're distracted?

01:19:17.000 Yeah, that'll do it.

01:19:19.000 Athletes, too.

01:19:20.000 I know athletes who do the same thing.

01:19:21.000 Yeah, it gets in your way.

01:19:22.000 Yeah, it gets in your way.

01:19:24.000 Trip over your own dick.

01:19:25.000 And people also use it as an excuse.

01:19:27.000 They don't do everything they could do, so they always have that thing in the back of their head that there's room for improvement.

01:19:33.000 And, yeah, next time.

01:19:35.000 Next time I'll get it together.

01:19:36.000 But, you know, most of the time that next time never comes.

01:19:38.000 Your brain will give you these sort of escape routes.

01:19:41.000 And that's one of the ones that, unfortunately, it seems so counterintuitive, but it happens to a lot of people.

01:19:47.000 I've never seen more of it until I came to L.A. Carnero won.

01:19:51.000 Interesting.

01:19:51.000 Nice.

01:19:53.000 He lost that last round.

01:19:54.000 At least he looked like it.

01:19:56.000 From what we're seeing.

01:19:57.000 Because Kenny Robertson was coming out strong.

01:19:59.000 But...

01:20:01.000 Takedown, reversals, submission attempts.

01:20:04.000 Obviously we didn't score it.

01:20:06.000 The 30 seconds I saw I'd give to Canero.

01:20:09.000 Well, the last round was interesting to me because Kenny kept charging after him.

01:20:14.000 This is where Kenny reversed him.

01:20:16.000 Is this all in the last round?

01:20:18.000 Boom!

01:20:18.000 Beautiful right hand.

01:20:22.000 Boom with the left hook.

01:20:24.000 Yeah, it's hard.

01:20:25.000 We're talking shit while we're watching these things.

01:20:27.000 Yeah, it's tough.

01:20:28.000 I was thinking about Carl's Jr., to be honest.

01:20:31.000 That fucking ad got me.

01:20:33.000 Carl's Jr.?

01:20:33.000 I'm jonesing for some junk food right now.

01:20:35.000 Really?

01:20:35.000 Yeah, I had a little junk food, and now I'm fucking jonesing.

01:20:38.000 Oh, you cheated a little bit?

01:20:39.000 I cheated a little bit would be understatement.

01:20:41.000 You went off?

01:20:42.000 I went off.

01:20:43.000 Like a rocket?

01:20:44.000 I went off like fucking Denzel Washington flight.

01:20:47.000 You remember when he got into that movie?

01:20:49.000 He's an alcoholic and they give him a mini fridge with just tons of stuff.

01:20:53.000 He's trying to recover and just goes fucking nuts.

01:20:55.000 That was me.

01:20:57.000 Yeah.

01:20:59.000 I'm back on it now, I hope, but that commercial fucking took me back to some dark places.

01:21:05.000 The problem is if you get off ketosis, you've got to do something to get back on it again.

01:21:09.000 Come on, son.

01:21:10.000 I get the supplements.

01:21:11.000 You taking ketones?

01:21:13.000 Yeah.

01:21:14.000 Ketosis.

01:21:15.000 You're doing like the low carb thing?

01:21:16.000 Yeah.

01:21:16.000 Yeah, I've been on it for grip now.

01:21:18.000 I feel great.

01:21:20.000 Really?

01:21:20.000 Yeah.

01:21:21.000 I'm also not fat anymore, so...

01:21:23.000 It's a plus.

01:21:25.000 Big happy with that?

01:21:26.000 Yeah.

01:21:26.000 It's a super plus.

01:21:29.000 Rick Glenn...

01:21:31.000 And Evan Dunham.

01:21:33.000 Evan Dunham?

01:21:35.000 That motherfucker been fighting for a long time, man.

01:21:37.000 Still around.

01:21:39.000 Still around and cracking.

01:21:40.000 He's a guy with phenomenal jiu-jitsu and just says, I want to bang.

01:21:44.000 Yeah, he's got good striking too, though.

01:21:47.000 His striking is good.

01:21:47.000 Pretty good.

01:21:48.000 His jiu-jitsu is phenomenal.

01:21:49.000 Yeah.

01:21:50.000 Real good.

01:21:51.000 Yeah.

01:21:53.000 It's gonna be an interesting...

01:21:54.000 What is this Batman nonsense they're showing us in this commercial?

01:21:57.000 Today's National Batman Day.

01:21:59.000 Is it really?

01:21:59.000 Yeah, my kids were all about it today.

01:22:01.000 National Batman Day.

01:22:03.000 Dude, it's National Batman Day, Dad.

01:22:06.000 Fuck, I didn't know.

01:22:07.000 Batman the Telltale...

01:22:08.000 Oh, so they made a DVD? No, it's a video game for Xbox.

01:22:12.000 Oh, it's a video game?

01:22:13.000 Yeah, a video game.

01:22:14.000 I'd play the fuck of that if I don't have a kid.

01:22:17.000 We just bought a Batman toy from today.

01:22:20.000 Worships Batman.

01:22:21.000 Boys love it.

01:22:22.000 Today is National Batman Day.

01:22:23.000 I didn't know that.

01:22:24.000 I didn't know that.

01:22:25.000 My six-year-old told me this morning.

01:22:27.000 Wow.

01:22:27.000 So what do you...

01:22:28.000 Ah, fuck, I have a Batman shirt.

01:22:30.000 I was like, should I wear this shirt?

01:22:32.000 I was like, they're not gonna know.

01:22:33.000 These guys aren't worth it.

01:22:34.000 And then send me a text, where's your Batman?

01:22:36.000 I would have rocked the Batman.

01:22:37.000 Fuck.

01:22:38.000 I got the old school Adam West tee.

01:22:39.000 It's fucking dope.

01:22:41.000 Really?

01:22:41.000 Yeah, I got it from Junk Food.

01:22:42.000 Did you ever read the story of Adam West and Wonder Boy, whatever his name is, Boy Wonder?

01:22:47.000 They were just fucking everything that moves back then.

01:22:50.000 No!

01:22:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:22:52.000 He wrote a book about it.

01:22:54.000 The dude who played Robin wrote a book about how much pussy they were getting.

01:22:58.000 Oh my god, I want to read that.

01:22:59.000 Good for him.

01:23:01.000 They were a big deal.

01:23:03.000 Those are the stories they never talk about, usually.

01:23:05.000 They never talk about that shit.

01:23:07.000 Guys always keep that shit secret.

01:23:08.000 Are you telling me Robin was getting pussy?

01:23:10.000 I have a hard time believing that.

01:23:11.000 Dude, are you crazy?

01:23:12.000 Nah, Robin was in the corner watching Batman 5 Girls.

01:23:15.000 Urkel gets pussy.

01:23:16.000 Come on.

01:23:16.000 Urkel.

01:23:17.000 Yes.

01:23:17.000 If you're on TV, that's a wrap, dude.

01:23:20.000 It's a wrap.

01:23:21.000 He probably got so much pussy, he's still catching his breath.

01:23:23.000 Yeah.

01:23:23.000 He'll come back on TV in another year or so.

01:23:25.000 He's like, I'm not ready.

01:23:27.000 I'm not ready to come back.

01:23:28.000 I'm just recovering.

01:23:29.000 Just get my electrolytes in order.

01:23:31.000 Corey Feldman.

01:23:33.000 Corey Feldman.

01:23:34.000 He made an appearance on some talk show with his band and their own girls in angel suits.

01:23:41.000 It's a nightmare.

01:23:41.000 It's a fucking nightmare.

01:23:42.000 Oh my god.

01:23:43.000 I saw that today.

01:23:45.000 It was incredible.

01:23:46.000 It was amazing.

01:23:46.000 He was at a minor league baseball game doing the same shit, and there were seven people.

01:23:50.000 Yeah, that's what we were looking at, right?

01:23:52.000 There was that band.

01:23:53.000 Holy shit.

01:23:54.000 It's Corey Feldman's Angels.

01:23:56.000 How could it be worse?

01:23:57.000 It's hysterical.

01:23:58.000 It was on Today Show.

01:23:58.000 Please show us.

01:23:59.000 It was on Today Show.

01:24:00.000 They put them on here, I think, to fuck with them.

01:24:01.000 This is it.

01:24:02.000 The Today Show done put people on to clown them.

01:24:04.000 Look at this band.

01:24:05.000 He got trolled.

01:24:06.000 It's like his dance to start his performance.

01:24:09.000 Oh my god.

01:24:09.000 That is sick.

01:24:12.000 Can you play it up there?

01:24:13.000 This is viral, right?

01:24:14.000 So if you play it up there, no one's looking at it, right?

01:24:16.000 No one will see it.

01:24:17.000 You can't play this sound?

01:24:18.000 Just give us a little something something.

01:24:20.000 Hey, for sure make Lost Boys remake and quit doing this grab ass with these angels.

01:24:24.000 Listen, do you think it's up to him?

01:24:26.000 It's not up to him.

01:24:27.000 He could...

01:24:28.000 Well, yeah, it's probably not up to him.

01:24:29.000 Look at this.

01:24:29.000 Isn't this a crazy promo?

01:24:31.000 Look at this.

01:24:32.000 Michael Bisping versus Dan Henderson for the UFC Middleweight Championship.

01:24:36.000 Holy fuck.

01:24:36.000 This is crazy.

01:24:37.000 It's fucking insane.

01:24:38.000 That's going to be a wild-ass fucking fight in Manchester.

01:24:41.000 Because those Brits are going to go bananas.

01:24:43.000 Bisbing's never lost there.

01:24:45.000 And also, you've got a four-man tournament of just the fucking who's who monsters fucking waiting in the wings.

01:24:52.000 With Jacare Rockhold and Melbourne.

01:24:55.000 How about Yoel Romero versus Chris Weidman?

01:24:57.000 What do you mean a tournament?

01:24:57.000 They're doing like a one-night tournament?

01:24:59.000 What do you mean?

01:24:59.000 No, I just call it tournament, but whoever wins that is fucking...

01:25:03.000 You can't say tournament when you're next to Joe Schilling.

01:25:05.000 I get excited when I get this.

01:25:06.000 I'm like, they should fucking do that tournament that night.

01:25:09.000 Cancel the main event, just do the one-night tournament.

01:25:11.000 Real, real tournament against the best guys.

01:25:13.000 I'm talking UFC tournament, where I make them up in my mind.

01:25:16.000 Did you see Jason Willness and Simon Marcus the other night?

01:25:20.000 I did.

01:25:21.000 Crazy, right?

01:25:22.000 Yeah.

01:25:22.000 Crazy.

01:25:23.000 It was weird how, first of all, not weird that Willness knocked him out because he could knock anybody out, but weird that Simon, at the end of that round, when he was letting him punch him, was that odd to you?

01:25:35.000 Yeah.

01:25:36.000 I mean, kind of.

01:25:38.000 I think Simon...

01:25:40.000 I think Simon and his coach had a falling out recently, and I think that it might have something to do with him losing.

01:25:46.000 Oh, yeah?

01:25:46.000 That's always tough.

01:25:47.000 He looks so good in that first round.

01:25:50.000 When you fight Simon, it's very ego-based.

01:25:54.000 I don't know, ego-based is the right word, but he's a tough guy.

01:25:57.000 You know what I mean?

01:25:58.000 Even in that fight, when Jason would do well against him with land shots, you would see Simon like, and then come back with this big thing.

01:26:07.000 I think that's what it was.

01:26:08.000 I'm going to drop my hands and let this guy hit me.

01:26:10.000 It also looked like he was slowing down a little bit.

01:26:12.000 He looked a little tired, yeah.

01:26:13.000 He's so jacked.

01:26:15.000 He's so jacked for a fighter, you know?

01:26:18.000 Especially for a kickboxing.

01:26:19.000 Yeah.

01:26:19.000 How about that chick that fought Misha Tate?

01:26:23.000 Amanda Nunes?

01:26:23.000 No, no, not her.

01:26:24.000 Not her.

01:26:25.000 Shit.

01:26:26.000 Who fought Joanne Calderwood, the Brazilian that yoke Brazilian?

01:26:30.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:26:31.000 Jessica Andrade.

01:26:32.000 Holy shit.

01:26:33.000 She's a beast.

01:26:33.000 She dropped down to 115. She's fighting at 135. She's too small.

01:26:37.000 Because she's only like 5'3 or 5'2, I think.

01:26:40.000 She might be 5'2".

01:26:41.000 You know what?

01:26:43.000 Pull that up, because she might not even be 5 feet tall.

01:26:46.000 Little beast, though.

01:26:47.000 She's so jacked.

01:26:49.000 How...

01:26:49.000 Her back is just...

01:26:52.000 A little Vanderlei.

01:26:53.000 How did that happen?

01:26:54.000 I don't know.

01:26:54.000 And with USADA? Acai, son.

01:26:56.000 Listen, it's natural.

01:26:58.000 How dare you?

01:26:58.000 Some of them are just jacked.

01:26:59.000 How tall is she, Jamie?

01:27:00.000 It's natural?

01:27:00.000 I don't know.

01:27:01.000 I don't know.

01:27:03.000 She's 5'3"?

01:27:04.000 She might be lying.

01:27:05.000 She looks like Sean.

01:27:06.000 We're in a weird day and age where anybody that has muscle has to be ducing.

01:27:09.000 Yes.

01:27:10.000 There are freaks, for sure.

01:27:11.000 It's weird to me when I see girls that are built like dudes.

01:27:14.000 Yeah.

01:27:15.000 Or dudes that are built like girls.

01:27:17.000 I mean, if chicks that are built like dudes are not on the juice, then who the fuck is?

01:27:24.000 Show me the ones that are.

01:27:25.000 Damn, they must be way bigger.

01:27:26.000 Hold on, though, because there's levels of testosterone naturally in some people.

01:27:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:27:31.000 But there are some girls that are just naturally jacked.

01:27:34.000 And wouldn't you think most girls that sign up for fighting are going to be- Can we see other pictures, Jamie?

01:27:38.000 They tend to have more testosterone just naturally?

01:27:40.000 I would assume.

01:27:41.000 Maybe.

01:27:42.000 Just hanging out in all the gyms?

01:27:43.000 Just taking fighter loads?

01:27:45.000 If you go down that road, you're usually not going to win fucking Miss America unless you're Paige Vanity.

01:27:51.000 From having sex with fighters, the hot loads coming in, those, you know- There might be some truth to that, Joe.

01:27:57.000 They're all an EPO. How do they end up wanting to be fighters?

01:28:01.000 They're at the gym all the time hanging out.

01:28:03.000 Exactly.

01:28:03.000 And they're like, oh, I've been here for three years.

01:28:05.000 And I think I learned some shit.

01:28:06.000 I think I know some shit.

01:28:08.000 Well, here's the thing they've shown about women is that women, when they are forced to be the breadwinner, when women, like when they become single or they have to take care of their kids and they have to work, their testosterone ramps up.

01:28:19.000 It actually changes.

01:28:20.000 When they're forced into a position where they have to earn their money out there in the competitive world, they actually develop more testosterone.

01:28:28.000 Don't ask me where I got this.

01:28:30.000 Ask me to cite my sources.

01:28:31.000 Maybe it's because she's short.

01:28:33.000 She looks yoked because she's short.

01:28:35.000 She's jacked.

01:28:36.000 There's no doubt about it.

01:28:37.000 Look at Liz Carmouche.

01:28:39.000 She's jacked too.

01:28:40.000 She missed no days doing curls.

01:28:43.000 Zero.

01:28:43.000 She's a tank.

01:28:44.000 She's a new fight too.

01:28:47.000 Yeah, right?

01:28:47.000 Did they announce that?

01:28:49.000 Yeah, they did.

01:28:49.000 I forget who.

01:28:50.000 Who is she fighting?

01:28:51.000 I forget.

01:28:52.000 Yeah, I don't care.

01:28:53.000 Hey, uh...

01:28:54.000 I don't give a fuck.

01:28:56.000 Hey, how about...

01:28:57.000 How about Bada Hari versus, uh, fucking Rico...

01:28:59.000 Rico Verhoeven, yeah.

01:29:01.000 December 10th.

01:29:02.000 We got a real expert here.

01:29:03.000 Oh, man.

01:29:04.000 Bata Hari, I'll always be a fan, but I think, timing-wise, I think that Rico's gonna beat him, probably.

01:29:11.000 I like that they gave Bata a long time to train.

01:29:14.000 Yeah.

01:29:14.000 I mean, we're here in September, and he's been training hard since August.

01:29:18.000 Yeah.

01:29:18.000 He's put all these videos on Instagram marking the days.

01:29:22.000 Is he jacked?

01:29:22.000 Yeah.

01:29:23.000 What?

01:29:23.000 Of course he's jacked.

01:29:26.000 I mean, they're like, he's got September, October, November, and December.

01:29:31.000 Rico Verhoeven is fucking huge.

01:29:33.000 Jacked!

01:29:34.000 That guy, like, in person, you're just like, fuck.

01:29:36.000 Did you see him beat the fuck the other night on that Silva guy?

01:29:39.000 Yeah.

01:29:40.000 God.

01:29:41.000 Anderson Brown.

01:29:42.000 Yeah, he beat the fuck out of him.

01:29:43.000 That guy's not that big, though.

01:29:45.000 I mean, he's big.

01:29:46.000 He's not big enough.

01:29:46.000 He's not, like, shockingly huge.

01:29:48.000 No, no.

01:29:49.000 Rico literally just toyed with him.

01:29:50.000 Rico's huge.

01:29:51.000 But he also has sick cardio.

01:29:53.000 Yeah.

01:29:53.000 He's a sick athlete, too.

01:29:54.000 He's a great athlete.

01:29:55.000 Shredded, too.

01:29:55.000 He was part of Tyson Fury's sparring for his fights.

01:30:00.000 Oh, really?

01:30:01.000 Yeah.

01:30:02.000 Wow.

01:30:02.000 Genius.

01:30:03.000 He did that a couple years ago.

01:30:04.000 That is super genius.

01:30:05.000 Yeah, smart.

01:30:07.000 Powerful Bruce Buffer in every show.

01:30:10.000 That motherfucker travels.

01:30:12.000 That motherfucker, they go, hey, you sure you don't want a break?

01:30:14.000 Nah, I'll go to every show.

01:30:16.000 Yeah, he does every fucking show.

01:30:17.000 Now he's doing his podcast, and I caught his podcast the other day.

01:30:20.000 It's pretty good.

01:30:20.000 That motherfucker blew his knee out, too.

01:30:22.000 Yeah, he blew his knee out in a karaoke contest.

01:30:24.000 Missed three days.

01:30:25.000 Fucking came back in a white tuxedo.

01:30:27.000 I talked to him about that.

01:30:28.000 I told him to get the surgery.

01:30:29.000 He's like, Joe, I think I'm not going to get the surgery.

01:30:31.000 I go, why?

01:30:32.000 He goes, I don't want to take the time off work.

01:30:33.000 I'm like, are you fucking out of your mind?

01:30:35.000 I go, get your knee fixed.

01:30:36.000 No, he's gangster, man.

01:30:38.000 In that world, man, you got to hustle.

01:30:40.000 That world.

01:30:40.000 It's like being a quarterback in the NFL. Tom Brady, you slip up.

01:30:43.000 There's someone behind you.

01:30:44.000 Can we get on that mic and come up with something instead of his time?

01:30:47.000 Who's the guy behind Bruce Buffer?

01:30:49.000 There's nobody behind Bruce Buffer.

01:30:50.000 Oh, there's someone waiting in the fucking wings.

01:30:52.000 Who's the guy biting at his heels to scream, fucking, let's get it on over there?

01:30:55.000 Probably some adopted brother they don't know about.

01:30:57.000 If some dude...

01:31:00.000 If some dude comes in and tries to do Bruce Buffer while Bruce Buffer's gone, he'll be booed out of the fucking arena.

01:31:06.000 I think he'd be surprised.

01:31:07.000 He's going to have to do his own shit.

01:31:09.000 I think he'd be surprised.

01:31:09.000 Are you crazy?

01:31:10.000 Because there's Bruce Buffer and there's Michael Buffer.

01:31:12.000 So, let's get ready to rumble!

01:31:15.000 Right?

01:31:16.000 And it's time!

01:31:17.000 Then you can get some new dude in there who just fucking remixes it.

01:31:21.000 Yeah, but that's not going to happen because we would know who that guy is.

01:31:23.000 It's a black dude.

01:31:23.000 He would already be doing it somewhere.

01:31:25.000 It's a black dude, for sure.

01:31:27.000 Beatboxing is not going to work in the Midwest.

01:31:28.000 I disagree.

01:31:29.000 Nobody could do Bruce Buffer.

01:31:30.000 Nobody.

01:31:31.000 Nobody.

01:31:31.000 He's the best.

01:31:32.000 Oh, I'm not saying they are.

01:31:33.000 They're going to do their own shit and flip the script.

01:31:36.000 That's what Bruce is worried about.

01:31:38.000 Right now, you're fucking with him.

01:31:40.000 That's why I'm taking these days off.

01:31:42.000 He's never taking a day off.

01:31:43.000 No, thanks a lot.

01:31:43.000 You're crazy if some young kid's not just thinking about it.

01:31:46.000 These guys are going off here.

01:31:47.000 We're talking shit, and Evan Dunham just landed in a beautiful combination.

01:31:52.000 It's hard not to root for Evan Dunham.

01:31:54.000 He's been doing it for so long.

01:31:55.000 He has, man.

01:31:56.000 It's a tough fucking game.

01:31:57.000 Ooh, beautiful shot.

01:31:58.000 Very good timing.

01:32:02.000 I don't know anything about his opponent.

01:32:04.000 Is he still training out of Vegas?

01:32:06.000 He was with Extreme Couture Faux.

01:32:08.000 Yeah, for a long time, right?

01:32:09.000 He was with Ray.

01:32:14.000 I don't know.

01:32:15.000 I don't know where he's at now.

01:32:15.000 He's got his own school now.

01:32:17.000 Did Ray stop training guys once he signed up to the World Series of Fighting thing?

01:32:21.000 No, he was there the other day with Brad Tavares.

01:32:24.000 Brad Tavares, who's been one of his students forever.

01:32:26.000 For a while.

01:32:27.000 Brad looked real good, man.

01:32:28.000 Real sharp.

01:32:29.000 He had a big winning streak and then fell off a little bit, but he's back now, right?

01:32:32.000 Well, he fought Yoel Romero, son.

01:32:34.000 That'll do it.

01:32:35.000 That'll fuck your whole schedule up.

01:32:37.000 That'll make you realize.

01:32:37.000 That'll fuck your life up.

01:32:38.000 Like, there's some people that can just move different than you can.

01:32:41.000 Ah, we're built different.

01:32:42.000 And you're a lot older, sir.

01:32:45.000 He's a freak.

01:32:47.000 So it's Yoel and Weidman and then Jocker.

01:32:50.000 Look at this.

01:32:50.000 Look, Japanese necktie right there.

01:32:52.000 Look at that.

01:32:52.000 Japanese necktie.

01:32:54.000 Japanese necktie.

01:32:54.000 Oh!

01:32:55.000 Beautiful escape.

01:32:57.000 You see how he freed his leg?

01:32:58.000 Yeah.

01:32:58.000 That's what it was all about right there.

01:33:00.000 Yeah.

01:33:00.000 It's getting that leg free.

01:33:02.000 And he pulled it off.

01:33:03.000 He was in deep shit.

01:33:05.000 Deep shit?

01:33:05.000 That was one of the first Japanese neckties ever in the UFC. Yeah, it was perfect!

01:33:09.000 That's what I meant by tournament, Joe.

01:33:11.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:33:11.000 Like, it's not a real tournament.

01:33:13.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:33:14.000 Joe and Joe.

01:33:14.000 Joe squared.

01:33:15.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:33:16.000 It's not a real tournament, but in my mind, I was like, we got ourselves a middleweight tournament.

01:33:21.000 Well, Jacare versus Luke Rockhold, too, is very interesting.

01:33:24.000 Especially because Luke's been getting all that model pussy.

01:33:27.000 He might be exhausted.

01:33:28.000 He's getting that Demi Lovato, New York model.

01:33:31.000 That shit will fuck your life up, son.

01:33:34.000 Or take your next level.

01:33:37.000 I just am shocked that he's not fighting Weidman again.

01:33:42.000 I felt like that would be the fight to make.

01:33:45.000 Me too.

01:33:45.000 The fight to make would be Weidman vs.

01:33:47.000 Rockhold 2, not Jacare vs.

01:33:50.000 Weidman.

01:33:50.000 What do you do with Jacarello and Romero?

01:33:51.000 One more time!

01:33:53.000 We had a little problem with the drug test last time, boys.

01:33:56.000 We're going to run it all back.

01:33:57.000 Run it back!

01:33:58.000 Let's see what happens when you're not on the happy song.

01:34:02.000 Let's run this shit back.

01:34:03.000 You both gotta be clean.

01:34:05.000 I like Weidman vs.

01:34:06.000 Romero.

01:34:06.000 I like Weidman in there.

01:34:07.000 I was under the impression that Jacare won that fight for some strange reason.

01:34:11.000 I did too.

01:34:12.000 I guess Romero won a decision, but then it turned out that he tested positive for some peptide or something like that, and they found the supplement that he said he took, they tested it, it was positive, so he gets a shorter break.

01:34:24.000 Check this out, man.

01:34:25.000 There's plenty of time left, and he's on his back.

01:34:28.000 And Denham is a finisher.

01:34:30.000 We still don't have any info on John, right?

01:34:32.000 So this is the spot where Kenny Robertson caught that knee bar.

01:34:34.000 It's right here.

01:34:36.000 Very similar, yes.

01:34:37.000 Right here.

01:34:37.000 And you do it with the head as well, right?

01:34:39.000 So the guy can't lean back.

01:34:40.000 To be honest with you, I don't...

01:34:42.000 Oh, he's got the best one right.

01:34:43.000 It should be over.

01:34:44.000 We're talking about all this jiu-jitsu.

01:34:46.000 There you go.

01:34:47.000 Ba-ba-boom.

01:34:48.000 Oh, man.

01:34:48.000 Oh, he is squirming.

01:34:51.000 Oh, it's over, son.

01:34:52.000 It's over.

01:34:52.000 Go ahead and just touch that elbow for me.

01:34:54.000 Go ahead and touch that elbow for me.

01:34:55.000 Is he going to gut it out?

01:34:56.000 Oh, it's getting tighter, son.

01:34:59.000 It is getting tighter.

01:35:00.000 Go to sleep, sweet prince.

01:35:02.000 Go to sleep.

01:35:03.000 Oh, he's out!

01:35:07.000 Amazing.

01:35:08.000 Amazing.

01:35:09.000 Amazing.

01:35:10.000 Brilliant defense.

01:35:11.000 So do you go for it again, 58 seconds ago?

01:35:14.000 100%.

01:35:14.000 Yeah, you go for it again.

01:35:15.000 He might go for an arm bar right here.

01:35:20.000 Yeah, Evan Dunham.

01:35:21.000 Looking good.

01:35:22.000 He's been fighting forever.

01:35:24.000 So this is a position...

01:35:25.000 Look, he's looking for an armbar.

01:35:26.000 Look at that.

01:35:26.000 He's ready for it.

01:35:27.000 Look at this.

01:35:28.000 He's going for it.

01:35:29.000 Shift to the hips.

01:35:30.000 There he goes.

01:35:32.000 30 seconds.

01:35:34.000 Wow.

01:35:34.000 Yeah, he's attacking.

01:35:36.000 Yeah.

01:35:36.000 30 seconds.

01:35:37.000 Not much time left.

01:35:41.000 It's so rare that you see someone hit that arm bar from the back when they're going for the choke.

01:35:45.000 Or even take him to the truck and hit him with the calf slicer.

01:35:48.000 Or a twister.

01:35:49.000 Oh, he's going to try to pin that arm.

01:35:51.000 Oh, there he goes.

01:35:52.000 Oh, lost it.

01:35:54.000 Oh, shit.

01:35:54.000 Didn't get the hips up in time.

01:35:56.000 There's a lot of grease going on there.

01:35:58.000 Yeah.

01:35:58.000 Look at that.

01:36:00.000 Oh, one more time.

01:36:01.000 Flatten him out.

01:36:02.000 Poundage.

01:36:02.000 Go for poundage.

01:36:04.000 Oh, he got half guard back.

01:36:06.000 How about fucking...

01:36:07.000 Ooh, elbow from the bottom.

01:36:08.000 Nasty elbow from the bottom.

01:36:10.000 Dude, how about Stipe's ground and pound on Overeem?

01:36:12.000 Dude, Overeem...

01:36:14.000 I've been thinking about that this whole time.

01:36:15.000 Like, how fucking hard did he hit him with those three shots?

01:36:17.000 Perfect shots, too.

01:36:18.000 Fucking perfect.

01:36:19.000 Perfect placement.

01:36:19.000 When that guy was stacking him earlier, and he fucking hit the guy in the head, and we're just talking about the triangle.

01:36:23.000 I'm like, he has some of those fucking...

01:36:24.000 Think how hard Stipe hits.

01:36:25.000 Stipe shots have been fucking over right there.

01:36:27.000 But also, Overeem's not as that, you know...

01:36:29.000 His motherboard, message board, has been hit a bunch of times.

01:36:33.000 Yeah, well, that's why after the fight I said I don't want to do interviews with fighters after they got knocked out again.

01:36:39.000 I appreciate that.

01:36:39.000 We should never do that.

01:36:40.000 We all appreciate that.

01:36:41.000 When he said that, when he said that...

01:36:43.000 As I was watching it, I was like, I don't fucking talk.

01:36:46.000 When he said the guy tapped, I was like, fuck, imagine if he tapped?

01:36:49.000 Like, are we going to see a tap?

01:36:50.000 Like, I had no idea.

01:36:52.000 You don't know if you missed something during the actual calling of a fight because it's happening live and it's so chaotic.

01:36:58.000 And it's right after Alistair dropped him, then he went for the guillotine, then all of a sudden they're on their feet again.

01:37:02.000 It happened so fast.

01:37:04.000 When he said it, he was so adamant.

01:37:06.000 Yeah, it's got knocked out.

01:37:07.000 What about the truck in the back though, Joe?

01:37:11.000 Aren't they going, Joe, he didn't tap.

01:37:12.000 Do you really want to show this?

01:37:13.000 No, they don't know.

01:37:14.000 They don't know.

01:37:15.000 They watch the fight live.

01:37:16.000 They watch the fight live.

01:37:17.000 You want to find out.

01:37:18.000 You want to find out whether he tapped, maybe he tapped, maybe he didn't.

01:37:20.000 You find out, it's entertaining.

01:37:23.000 It's totally possible that if he did tap that someone saw it in the truck, they would have said it.

01:37:29.000 But they didn't say it, but they're like, we'll play it for you.

01:37:32.000 And I said, okay, we're going to play it.

01:37:33.000 And so they had it queued up, they played it, and then he was still insistent.

01:37:37.000 I'm like, okay, well, maybe it's the other hand.

01:37:39.000 But I was thinking, man, this does not look good.

01:37:41.000 But it has to be solved.

01:37:45.000 It has to be resolved.

01:37:46.000 You know, when a guy says the guy tapped, you have to show it.

01:37:48.000 It's part of the game.

01:37:49.000 Let's check it out.

01:37:50.000 You have to show it.

01:37:52.000 But I wish we didn't interview him at all.

01:37:56.000 I think the guy has to have a chance.

01:37:58.000 He was completely unconscious.

01:37:59.000 And it took him a while to just get back to his feet.

01:38:02.000 And to have a conversation with him about strategy, about where it went wrong.

01:38:06.000 The sense.

01:38:07.000 Insane.

01:38:07.000 It's crazy.

01:38:08.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:38:10.000 No other sport does that.

01:38:11.000 Here we go again.

01:38:12.000 Here we go again.

01:38:13.000 Japanese that time.

01:38:13.000 One more time.

01:38:14.000 But he doesn't have the leg at all right there.

01:38:16.000 He's got to switch it to a darts.

01:38:17.000 This is some serious shit.

01:38:19.000 Serious shit right here.

01:38:19.000 Even if it's not a knockout, a guy loses and gets submitted or whatever.

01:38:23.000 But even in other sports.

01:38:24.000 What are we going to say to you?

01:38:24.000 This sucks.

01:38:25.000 I wish I would have won.

01:38:26.000 Yeah, even in other sports, like the NFL, if a guy has a concussion, he's not doing interviews, man.

01:38:30.000 He's not right in the head.

01:38:31.000 If a guy breaks his leg or tears a knee, they're not interviewing him.

01:38:34.000 Because what the fuck's he going to see?

01:38:36.000 You know what kind of fucking frame of mind that guy's in?

01:38:39.000 It's nuts.

01:38:40.000 So you're 100% right, Joe.

01:38:42.000 I love that.

01:38:42.000 Well, you know, it's something I had suggested a long time ago, back when we interviewed Mirko Krokop after Gonzaga knocked him out.

01:38:50.000 I was looking in his eyes, man.

01:38:52.000 That night?

01:38:52.000 You guys interviewed him?

01:38:53.000 Yeah, I interviewed him right after the fight.

01:38:57.000 And I was like, we can't do that anymore.

01:38:59.000 And I said it to him, and we just kept doing it.

01:39:01.000 What if it's good for ratings?

01:39:02.000 If they get knocked out, guaranteed interview.

01:39:04.000 It can't be good, though.

01:39:06.000 I'm not doing it anymore.

01:39:07.000 I mean, they don't even show him on the ground anymore.

01:39:09.000 They pan away on the camera.

01:39:10.000 Did they tell you yes or no, Joe?

01:39:11.000 I don't care.

01:39:12.000 I'm not doing it anymore.

01:39:13.000 You're going to do it.

01:39:14.000 I'm not doing it.

01:39:14.000 Sir, look at me.

01:39:15.000 Shut the fuck up.

01:39:16.000 You're going to fuck up.

01:39:19.000 If guys get knocked the fuck out, if someone really wants to talk to them, they're going to have to talk to them.

01:39:25.000 I'm not talking to anybody anymore.

01:39:26.000 Bruce Buffer's going to jump in that bitch.

01:39:27.000 How are you feeling?

01:39:28.000 Bruce will do a great job.

01:39:30.000 Well, it's time for me to interview you.

01:39:35.000 Joe, I'll take it from here.

01:39:36.000 Thank you, sir.

01:39:37.000 I know you hate this part.

01:39:38.000 I got a raise.

01:39:39.000 I'm doing it out of respect for the game.

01:39:44.000 Yeah, I don't think we need to, and I think the UFC agrees.

01:39:47.000 It's better for the sport.

01:39:49.000 Well, it made Alistair look bad, and I think if you gave him a few hours or even a day to talk about it, he probably would realize that that never happened.

01:39:57.000 It was just his brain was scrambled.

01:39:59.000 Well, even Stipe, when you're talking to him, he's like, yeah, he hit me with a kick.

01:40:02.000 No, sir, that was a punch.

01:40:03.000 Well, he said the guy kicks hard.

01:40:05.000 He didn't make any sense.

01:40:07.000 He did get kicked hard in the body.

01:40:08.000 Yeah, he did.

01:40:09.000 And, I mean, he could have been mentioning that, but he probably didn't realize what knocked him down.

01:40:14.000 He was concussed, too.

01:40:14.000 Yeah, most likely.

01:40:16.000 Oh, yeah.

01:40:16.000 Oh, sir?

01:40:17.000 Yes.

01:40:18.000 Yeah, the way he got dropped.

01:40:19.000 Yeah, flatline drop.

01:40:20.000 And he got staggered more than once.

01:40:22.000 He got staggered twice, at least twice in that first round.

01:40:25.000 Dude, so much pressure on Stipe.

01:40:26.000 Hometown, I was so...

01:40:27.000 Happy for me?

01:40:29.000 Dude, you ain't heard roars like the Cleveland crowd for Stipe.

01:40:32.000 It's like Dublin for Connor.

01:40:34.000 It's crazy.

01:40:35.000 Cleveland is...

01:40:37.000 Maybe...

01:40:37.000 Finally, Cleveland...

01:40:39.000 Bring it back.

01:40:40.000 It's not quite like Dublin.

01:40:43.000 But...

01:40:43.000 But they love him, man.

01:40:45.000 And Cleveland is a badass town, man.

01:40:47.000 I had heard that it was experiencing this resurgence.

01:40:50.000 It's a fun town.

01:40:51.000 Those people were fun.

01:40:53.000 Because of LeBron and Ohio State.

01:40:54.000 I've always been a Browns fan.

01:40:57.000 That's terrible.

01:40:59.000 I'm not really into football that much anymore, but...

01:41:03.000 I did watch last week's Browns game on fast forward on DVR. I didn't even watch their defense.

01:41:08.000 I just fast forward to their offense and they played like shit.

01:41:11.000 And usually you feel like garbage after spending three hours watching football and your team scores one touchdown.

01:41:18.000 You're like, I fucking wasted my whole day, sat through all these fucking commercials for this bullshit ass performance.

01:41:23.000 You feel like shit.

01:41:24.000 But when you fast forward through it all and you're like, oh, I wouldn't have wasted my time.

01:41:28.000 I went through the whole game in 20 minutes.

01:41:29.000 I felt great.

01:41:30.000 They look like shit.

01:41:31.000 I felt great.

01:41:32.000 That's not how you watch a game.

01:41:34.000 It's just not.

01:41:35.000 That's so fucking wrong.

01:41:39.000 Did you drive here in a Hyundai?

01:41:40.000 They almost stole three hours from me.

01:41:43.000 If I would have just sat through this shit, it's beautiful.

01:41:46.000 You didn't want to do that back in the day because there's too many spoilers.

01:41:49.000 Everybody's watching TV and there's just spoilers everywhere.

01:41:51.000 But now, everyone's in their own little compartment on the internet.

01:41:55.000 I'm like, I never know the goddamn scores.

01:41:57.000 So you can DVR a game.

01:41:59.000 That's what I'm going to do tomorrow.

01:41:59.000 I'm not going to...

01:42:00.000 Spend a kill a Sunday watching football and wasting my time.

01:42:04.000 I am with my son.

01:42:05.000 I force him to watch it at six months old.

01:42:07.000 I'm going to watch it at two in the morning on Fast Forward.

01:42:10.000 It's the greatest.

01:42:11.000 Well, now we know that.

01:42:12.000 You know they're going to...

01:42:14.000 They might have done it or they're doing it soon.

01:42:16.000 Is Canelo Smith tonight?

01:42:17.000 Yes, sir, it is.

01:42:18.000 And it's a good fucking fight if you know about the Smith family.

01:42:20.000 Four brothers.

01:42:22.000 Four brothers.

01:42:23.000 Two of them are going to be world champions.

01:42:25.000 All four pro boxers.

01:42:26.000 It's nuts, man.

01:42:27.000 That's a tough fight for Canelo, too.

01:42:29.000 That Smith is a fucking monster, man.

01:42:31.000 Is he?

01:42:32.000 I didn't really know anything about him.

01:42:33.000 He's tough, tough.

01:42:34.000 Dude, after that Kell Brook fight, I want to see Canelo versus him.

01:42:38.000 Gennady Golovkin?

01:42:39.000 Yeah, Gennady Golovkin and Canelo would be the shoot.

01:42:41.000 Dude, how about Kovalev versus fucking Andre Ward in November?

01:42:45.000 That's amazing.

01:42:46.000 We should do a fight campaign for that.

01:42:47.000 Okay, I'm in.

01:42:48.000 Yes!

01:42:49.000 If I'm not doing something better.

01:42:50.000 Who's celebrating online?

01:42:51.000 People are crumped for that.

01:42:53.000 We should do a fight companion for Turkish oil wrestling.

01:42:57.000 We should.

01:42:58.000 We gotta find out when the date is, like their world championships.

01:43:02.000 Get Calum in here to get real good.

01:43:03.000 Oh dude, Calum take over.

01:43:05.000 That shit is only on YouTube.

01:43:06.000 You have to go there live and bring your phone.

01:43:09.000 Do you remember the comedy?

01:43:11.000 Callan would come out of Callan's mouth.

01:43:13.000 He would be crushing.

01:43:15.000 He probably has a Turkish accent on the deck.

01:43:17.000 He's probably done it before and shit.

01:43:19.000 We should.

01:43:20.000 They gotta have world championships.

01:43:21.000 There's gotta be some hickson of Turkish oil wrestling.

01:43:24.000 Yeah.

01:43:25.000 He's too busy sucking dicks.

01:43:27.000 It's like, instead of getting drunk and gambling, this guy just blows guys.

01:43:31.000 That's just...

01:43:31.000 He sucks too many dicks and he has to take time off.

01:43:34.000 And that's when he starts losing.

01:43:35.000 Too many dicks.

01:43:37.000 So he's talking about interviews, how he cut the dick out.

01:43:39.000 He's like, no more dicks.

01:43:41.000 I haven't had any dick in training camp and I feel really good.

01:43:45.000 I dig one dick on Sunday.

01:43:46.000 That's it.

01:43:47.000 Cheat day.

01:43:48.000 Cheat day.

01:43:49.000 Cheat day.

01:43:57.000 I thought that was the third round.

01:44:06.000 I thought that was the end of the fight.

01:44:07.000 Evan Dunham still going strong.

01:44:08.000 They raised their hands after that round like it was over and I thought, damn, that was quick.

01:44:13.000 We're not paying attention.

01:44:15.000 Yeah.

01:44:18.000 That's one of the craziest thing about kickboxing is that when you go to the third round in those tournaments, if it's a draw, they'd make you guys fight a fourth round.

01:44:26.000 What the fuck is that feeling like?

01:44:29.000 It sucks.

01:44:31.000 I'm not going to lie.

01:44:32.000 It sucks.

01:44:32.000 Because going into that third round, you're like, fuck, this is it.

01:44:35.000 All or nothing.

01:44:35.000 Fuck, motherfucker.

01:44:36.000 I've got to do this.

01:44:37.000 And then you go back and look at your coach and you're like, I think it's going to be the next round.

01:44:41.000 And you're like, fuck.

01:44:42.000 No.

01:44:42.000 That Simon fight, I remember thinking, I don't want to.

01:44:44.000 I don't fucking want to.

01:44:46.000 And then we had to go another round, and it ended up working out great for me.

01:44:48.000 But I was not happy about it.

01:44:50.000 If you guys both agree to flip a coin at the end, it's like, do you want to fight?

01:44:53.000 Do you want to fight?

01:44:54.000 Okay, let's just flip a coin.

01:44:55.000 I'm sure he felt the same way, too.

01:44:57.000 He didn't want to do it either.

01:44:58.000 Well, he kept spitting his mouthpiece out.

01:45:00.000 I think his nose was shattered or broken, so he couldn't close his mouth because he couldn't breathe.

01:45:06.000 So you get all this blood and shit, and you're like, fuck, I can't breathe.

01:45:08.000 And then his mouthpiece kept coming out.

01:45:10.000 Hmm.

01:45:12.000 Hey, so...

01:45:12.000 Which happens a lot, actually.

01:45:13.000 When you see guys in their noses, like, bleeding like crazy, is usually when you'll see the mouthpiece start falling out, because they just can't breathe.

01:45:19.000 Brendan, I got a question for you real quick.

01:45:21.000 Well, hold on real quick.

01:45:22.000 Our boy, Callan, he's doing shows in New York, and there's an explosion half a mile from him, so his show got canceled.

01:45:27.000 What?

01:45:28.000 Yeah, he just texted me and was like, Hey, brother, I'm sure you saw the news.

01:45:31.000 My show got canceled because there's an explosion in New York.

01:45:33.000 What?

01:45:34.000 What's he talking about?

01:45:35.000 Terrorist shit?

01:45:37.000 Hillary false flag right there.

01:45:38.000 Is that that big of a deal, quote unquote, they're saying online right now?

01:45:41.000 That's my guess.

01:45:41.000 They're body double.

01:45:42.000 Hold on, let him talk.

01:45:43.000 You know she died on the 11th.

01:45:44.000 Guys, let him talk.

01:45:45.000 25, 26 people have been injured.

01:45:47.000 No deaths.

01:45:47.000 There's a second device.

01:45:49.000 It's an explosion.

01:45:50.000 They're not calling it a bomb.

01:45:51.000 They're not saying terrorism.

01:45:51.000 Nothing crazy like that right now.

01:45:53.000 Oh, come on.

01:45:54.000 Callum shows canceled, though.

01:45:56.000 Callum was, uh, he said, uh, half a blocker.

01:45:59.000 He says half a blocker, half a mile in one, so I don't know, but he said his show's canceled, and it was nuts.

01:46:03.000 But he's okay.

01:46:04.000 He goes, there's going to be a false flag event.

01:46:06.000 Watch Hillary's on her, uh, on, apparently, uh, She's not looking too good, Hillary.

01:46:13.000 She's super sick.

01:46:14.000 That's what people are saying.

01:46:15.000 Well, like, September 11th, she left the event early and, like, passed out.

01:46:19.000 Yeah, she's fainting.

01:46:20.000 Collapsed and fainted and shit.

01:46:22.000 She's got, like, a fucking shit bag in her pants.

01:46:25.000 Manhattan explosion.

01:46:26.000 Alex Jones had some physician on, and he said she's showing signs of some kind of brain tumor or something.

01:46:31.000 But Alex Jones is so far...

01:46:33.000 Like, he used to come across like he had, like, good shit, but he was just kind of crazy.

01:46:37.000 And now he's, like, so...

01:46:49.000 It says the explosion wasn't terrorism, but it was done intentionally.

01:46:53.000 So that means someone from here would do it?

01:46:55.000 But isn't terrorism terrorism?

01:46:57.000 Maybe someone just wanted to get rid of their building.

01:46:59.000 He's got a shitty building.

01:47:00.000 He was calling it.

01:47:02.000 He said, you know what?

01:47:03.000 With all this Hillary shit going on, they're panicking.

01:47:05.000 They don't know if they're going to stick Bernie Sanders in or they're going to put Biden in.

01:47:09.000 How can they do that?

01:47:10.000 Or they're going to suspend the election, keep Obama in longer.

01:47:12.000 They're about to make a big-ass decision right now.

01:47:14.000 Hillary apparently is not...

01:47:16.000 You're so excited.

01:47:17.000 I'm just happy.

01:47:18.000 I was waiting for this topic.

01:47:20.000 I have no idea.

01:47:22.000 That's just what I hear.

01:47:24.000 I don't know shit.

01:47:25.000 That's just what I hear.

01:47:26.000 Who knows?

01:47:27.000 This could all be a trick.

01:47:29.000 Well, I mean, whenever you're dealing with someone like a Hillary Clinton, and she's super sick, and you're leading up to the election, and she just doesn't look healthy, she's fainting and stuff.

01:47:42.000 No, she's old, man.

01:47:44.000 She's old, and she's of poor health, and she had a serious concussion a few years back.

01:47:48.000 Concussion?

01:47:49.000 Real bad.

01:47:49.000 From what?

01:47:50.000 She fainted, fell down, and hit her head.

01:47:52.000 And apparently had a brain aneurysm, and was bleeding internally.

01:47:57.000 That's how...

01:47:59.000 I'm not saying it had anything to do with Parkinson's or these fainting spells that she has.

01:48:05.000 Usually when you have this disease, whatever it is, they usually die from the falls.

01:48:10.000 They usually die and they just crack their head on the cement and that's what they die from.

01:48:15.000 Alex Jones, he's saying, according to his physicians, and he's saying that he's got a connection in the Secret Service.

01:48:24.000 It's a fucking scrap.

01:48:26.000 We're watching a crazy fight.

01:48:27.000 It's a fucking scrap scrap.

01:48:28.000 We're just talking stupid shit about Hillary Clinton.

01:48:30.000 Fuck Hillary and her Tourette's.

01:48:32.000 This is about the ruler of the world here.

01:48:33.000 That's what we're talking about.

01:48:34.000 We're not talking about just some...

01:48:36.000 Oh!

01:48:37.000 Oh!

01:48:39.000 Oh, he's fucked up, son.

01:48:42.000 Look at that.

01:48:43.000 Oh, he's on zombie mode.

01:48:47.000 Oh, shit.

01:48:47.000 He's going for it, though.

01:48:48.000 Karate Kid zombie mode.

01:48:49.000 Oh!

01:48:51.000 Armbar!

01:48:52.000 And then it's over.

01:48:53.000 Oh, sick!

01:48:53.000 Get it, son!

01:48:55.000 Oh, fuck!

01:48:56.000 The bell?

01:48:58.000 It's crazy.

01:48:58.000 God bless you.

01:48:59.000 Can you imagine if you were to hit that armbar?

01:49:01.000 How nice was Verdum's flying fucking sidekick?

01:49:04.000 I loved it.

01:49:04.000 I fucking loved it.

01:49:06.000 And he kept doing the fucking cartwheel clicks.

01:49:08.000 Guys, we can't talk over each other.

01:49:09.000 It's horrible to listen to.

01:49:11.000 Regulate them.

01:49:12.000 Tell them.

01:49:14.000 We gotta definitely not do that.

01:49:16.000 But yeah, it was a crazy kick.

01:49:17.000 It was a crazy kick.

01:49:18.000 He's done it before though.

01:49:19.000 He did it when he fought over him in Pride.

01:49:21.000 People forget.

01:49:22.000 It landed him?

01:49:23.000 He did it before, yeah.

01:49:24.000 Oh shit.

01:49:25.000 Really?

01:49:26.000 Yeah.

01:49:26.000 Wow, that's interesting.

01:49:27.000 That's like a Chinese connection kick.

01:49:28.000 Little fact for you guys.

01:49:29.000 He's done it before.

01:49:30.000 Jumping fucking sidekick.

01:49:32.000 That is nuts.

01:49:32.000 He jump kicked fucking over him in Pride, ran straight at his ass.

01:49:36.000 The gif is so good.

01:49:37.000 It's just so fucking good.

01:49:39.000 Dude, it fucking wobbled Travis Brown, too.

01:49:41.000 Oh, shit!

01:49:43.000 Dude, he caught him on the jaw.

01:49:44.000 He throws a lot of wheel kicks, man.

01:49:46.000 I like him a lot.

01:49:46.000 Dude, how about Verdum said, check this out.

01:49:48.000 Flying fucking sidekick on your coach.

01:49:51.000 This is Sparta.

01:49:52.000 Front kick.

01:49:53.000 Get your bullshit gym out of here.

01:49:55.000 Front kick.

01:49:56.000 That was real weird after the fight.

01:49:58.000 Edmund was screaming at him.

01:49:59.000 I'm like, what do you think is going to happen here?

01:50:01.000 I think, watching it, I thought...

01:50:03.000 He thought that when he was fucking...

01:50:06.000 I think Edmund at some point thought that Travis actually won that fight and that he got robbed in a decision or something.

01:50:11.000 What the fuck?

01:50:11.000 And that's why they were booing?

01:50:13.000 That's what I thought.

01:50:14.000 No, I think there's a lot of pressure on Edmund.

01:50:16.000 And he saw him doing this shit and was like, oh, come on over.

01:50:18.000 Yeah, and he thought he was fucking shit.

01:50:19.000 I think there's a lot of pressure on Edmund because, you know, it's like, fuck man, you gotta win a fight.

01:50:22.000 Travis moved his whole camp there.

01:50:24.000 He looked like pure caca.

01:50:26.000 There's a lot right in this fight.

01:50:28.000 He just lost to Kane.

01:50:29.000 So if you hear him in the corners, there's desperation.

01:50:31.000 He's losing his voice.

01:50:32.000 And then when that shit happens, when your fighter fights like that, I think he was just so furious and he's an emotional guy.

01:50:39.000 But you're talking the number one heavyweight in the world.

01:50:41.000 He's going to twist your fucking face off when you talk to him like that.

01:50:45.000 And he's Brazilian.

01:50:46.000 In Brazil, they'll just fucking smack you for no reason.

01:50:48.000 Verdum's a nice guy, too.

01:50:50.000 Verdum's a fucking grand human being.

01:50:53.000 One of the nice guys in the world.

01:50:54.000 You're lucky that was an ovary or someone like that.

01:50:57.000 Yeah, it was all very weird.

01:50:59.000 It was very weird because I didn't see it until afterwards.

01:51:01.000 I was climbing into the cage to do the post-fight interviews when he kicked him.

01:51:05.000 So I didn't see him kick him, but all of a sudden Edmund went flying, a bunch of people in there, and Rafael Cordero was trying to kick Edmund's ass.

01:51:12.000 Rafael Cordero was fucking furious, and Edmund was screaming at Rafael Cordero, and Rafael Cordero was ready to throw.

01:51:19.000 See, they cut all that off.

01:51:20.000 He was really considering what he should or shouldn't do at that moment.

01:51:23.000 You don't want that.

01:51:24.000 I'm a fucking bad.

01:51:25.000 He's a bad motherfucker, and Rafael Cordero was right in front of him considering what he should or shouldn't do, and they were trying to move Edmund away from him.

01:51:32.000 But he had said some nasty shit.

01:51:34.000 I don't know who said what or what, but there was a lot of, like, extremities.

01:51:38.000 Did you see Dana?

01:51:39.000 We didn't see any of that on TV. Dana came in and was like, God, dawg, come on.

01:51:43.000 We got CM Punk before this, now we got this bullshit.

01:51:45.000 You got a Brazilian and an Armenian?

01:51:48.000 Brazilians and Armenian have one thing in common.

01:51:51.000 They don't take any shit.

01:52:06.000 I have Armenian students.

01:52:09.000 They don't say shit.

01:52:10.000 They're Armanian.

01:52:11.000 Armanis.

01:52:12.000 But the difference is one of them's ranked number one in the world and will rip your fucking dick off and the other guy's just a guy.

01:52:18.000 Both races are down to fight at any time.

01:52:20.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:52:20.000 But one can fight better than the other.

01:52:22.000 That's where you gotta know.

01:52:22.000 I don't know.

01:52:23.000 That's a...

01:52:23.000 Not one race, but...

01:52:26.000 Have you ever heard of Karin Darabedian, sir?

01:52:28.000 Are you being serious?

01:52:29.000 Yeah, he was at one point.

01:52:31.000 What'd you say?

01:52:32.000 Ed Moon was a legit kickboxer back in the day.

01:52:34.000 Compared to Fabricio Verdum, he's a piece of corn and shit compared to Verdum.

01:52:41.000 Verdum's so big, too.

01:52:42.000 He's such a giant.

01:52:44.000 He's top three, best heavyweights of all time.

01:52:47.000 He just happens to be one of the greatest guys in the world.

01:52:50.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:52:50.000 He's a really good dude.

01:52:53.000 So he should have kept his mouth shut?

01:52:56.000 Which one?

01:52:57.000 Edmund.

01:52:57.000 Who knows what was said?

01:52:59.000 See, you can't say that unless you know what was said.

01:53:01.000 Well, I know what you shouldn't do is approach a fighter and try and fight him as a coach.

01:53:04.000 We know that.

01:53:05.000 I don't give a fuck what he said to you.

01:53:06.000 Yeah, super controversial move.

01:53:08.000 I think that he just was watching, and he was pissed off his guy lost, and then fucking Verdum starts doing this shit, and he was like, hey, motherfucker, don't do that shit.

01:53:16.000 And then Verdum was like, who are you talking to?

01:53:18.000 That's exactly what happened right there.

01:53:20.000 He went back and forth.

01:53:21.000 And he's like, don't fucking talk to me.

01:53:22.000 Well, Verdum said the reason why he frontkicked me, he goes, because I could tell in his eyes he was going to throw a punch at me.

01:53:26.000 He goes, I could have done something a lot worse.

01:53:28.000 Which he's right.

01:53:29.000 Did Verdum flip off the audience?

01:53:31.000 No, hell no.

01:53:31.000 He was crying because they were booing him.

01:53:33.000 And then he was going thumbs down.

01:53:35.000 They weren't booing the fact that he won.

01:53:37.000 They were booing that the fight was lackluster.

01:53:39.000 Correct.

01:53:40.000 Yeah.

01:53:41.000 And he wasn't booing that, like, oh, fuck you.

01:53:44.000 The crowd was right.

01:53:46.000 The fight was tough.

01:53:47.000 Verdum was like, we just fought our fucking asses off.

01:53:50.000 We're doing some shit.

01:53:51.000 They're in the fucking cage throwing down, so no matter how it goes down, the audience should never fucking do.

01:53:56.000 Hold on.

01:53:57.000 You gotta take this into consideration.

01:53:58.000 The audience is there.

01:53:59.000 It's in Cleveland.

01:54:01.000 Stipe beat Verdum for the belt.

01:54:03.000 They all know that.

01:54:03.000 They're there for Stipe.

01:54:04.000 They know that Verdum was the guy Stipe beat for the belt.

01:54:07.000 So they're against Verdum anyway, because he's like the invading team.

01:54:12.000 Okay, I get it.

01:54:13.000 I get it.

01:54:13.000 You're right.

01:54:14.000 You're right.

01:54:14.000 Okay.

01:54:16.000 It wasn't a good fight, but I was amazed that Travis was able to recover when Fabricio got his back.

01:54:22.000 That I was like, wow.

01:54:23.000 That dude's got heart.

01:54:25.000 He's got some very good defense, too.

01:54:27.000 Because Fabricio had him down, had him hurt, then had him down, and then took his back.

01:54:31.000 And I was shocked that he didn't finish him.

01:54:33.000 I'm like, that's pretty impressive.

01:54:35.000 Especially considering that Travis had a broken finger.

01:54:38.000 His finger is fucked up.

01:54:39.000 You see the pictures of it?

01:54:40.000 I did see the pictures.

01:54:41.000 What's more impressive though is for Doom fighting and throwing a spinning or kicks and the fucking flying kick with a broken foot.

01:54:49.000 You know he went into the fight with a broken foot.

01:54:50.000 Which foot?

01:54:51.000 I'm not sure.

01:54:52.000 That is impressive though.

01:54:53.000 That is impressive.

01:54:54.000 How impressive is that?

01:54:55.000 I wonder if it was the broken one he kicked him with.

01:54:57.000 That would be ridiculous.

01:54:59.000 How gangster is that?

01:54:59.000 I thought that it was like a mental warfare thing that I thought was kind of awesome.

01:55:03.000 Yeah.

01:55:04.000 I don't know the situation, but Saber Doom wasn't in the best shape and needed to be a slower paced fight.

01:55:09.000 And you come out and you do that flying fucking push kick.

01:55:11.000 With a fractured sight?

01:55:12.000 Look at that.

01:55:13.000 And then all of a sudden you're doing fucking cartwheel kicks because you don't give a fuck if he gets on top of you when you're underground.

01:55:18.000 Wow.

01:55:19.000 And the next thing you know it's a slow paced fight and you get to win on, you know.

01:55:22.000 I thought it was cool.

01:55:23.000 That fight's tough, man, because both guys are under so much pressure.

01:55:26.000 Because if Verdum loses, he goes to the back of the line.

01:55:29.000 He's older.

01:55:29.000 This is his fucking second time in the UFC. But Josh Brown, he's one out of his last five.

01:55:35.000 Edmund, all this pressure.

01:55:37.000 So there's just high tension, man.

01:55:39.000 Yeah, very high tension.

01:55:40.000 There was a lot going on.

01:55:41.000 How old is Verdum now?

01:55:43.000 He's like 49. Yeah, he's 39. You know, it's interesting because the Alistair fight, like, the way Alistair was avoiding exchanges and getting out of the way, it's so, like, you're watching a totally different fighter now.

01:55:57.000 It's so interesting.

01:55:58.000 Like, you remember his fight with Todd Duffy when he was the destroyer?

01:56:02.000 That was in Japan.

01:56:04.000 Yeah, I know, exactly.

01:56:05.000 And then with Brock, same thing, pre-USADA. I mean, that, that...

01:56:10.000 Alistair had such a different style.

01:56:12.000 Now he's moving around a lot.

01:56:14.000 He's got his hands out.

01:56:16.000 He's running away from exchanges and picking his spots and trying to fight at a really reserved pace.

01:56:21.000 He's trying to preserve his energy and pace himself.

01:56:25.000 But what technique, and maybe you would know better, Joe, but what technique do they ever teach in any martial art where you run like that?

01:56:34.000 I don't know.

01:56:34.000 It's called get the fuck away from Stipe.

01:56:36.000 It's weird, right?

01:56:37.000 There was a lot of talk about it after Connor did it to Nate.

01:56:40.000 You know, negative, positive, whatever.

01:56:41.000 You're talking about fatigue and stuff like that.

01:56:43.000 But that was exactly what, it looked exactly like that.

01:56:46.000 But Connor did it later in the rounds.

01:56:48.000 When you do it in the first round, when you're not tired, that's just, I mean, that's your straight technique, son.

01:56:52.000 Well, I think if we do it on a football field, like Joe wants, you're going to have those opportunities.

01:56:56.000 People are going to be like, hey, man, this is too close.

01:56:58.000 I need to fucking run away from this.

01:57:00.000 Yeah, Brennan, Sean, and Matt Morris running.

01:57:01.000 And get their shit together.

01:57:02.000 Give me a football field, I'm out.

01:57:03.000 Time to run or get down.

01:57:06.000 Get down!

01:57:07.000 Remember when Max Holloway and Ricardo Lamas just looked at each other and pointed at the ground and said, let's do this.

01:57:12.000 And they just swung for the last 10 seconds of the fight.

01:57:15.000 Just swung.

01:57:17.000 There's going to be guys that do that, too.

01:57:19.000 And there's going to be guys that Alistair it.

01:57:20.000 God bless them.

01:57:21.000 Yeah, but I've never seen...

01:57:23.000 Have you ever seen Alistair like that?

01:57:25.000 Ever?

01:57:25.000 Not Alistair?

01:57:26.000 Never seen it.

01:57:28.000 But you also have to think...

01:57:29.000 The straight lefty dropped him.

01:57:29.000 It was beautiful, though.

01:57:30.000 It was amazing.

01:57:31.000 And it was off of that runaway.

01:57:32.000 The other thing that I was thinking is like...

01:57:35.000 And even when Nate and Connor, when it happened, when you do that runaway thing, you're getting a reset.

01:57:41.000 And then, for example, with Nate, Nate's been kicking a leg a lot.

01:57:45.000 You're walking around the fucking ring.

01:57:48.000 He runs away.

01:57:48.000 You're walking to him, walking to him.

01:57:50.000 He's set now, and he's waiting for you.

01:57:52.000 As soon as you come in a distance, that guy gets to jump on you.

01:57:54.000 You know what I mean?

01:57:56.000 It's weird.

01:57:57.000 It's a thing.

01:57:58.000 Well, it's a thing.

01:57:58.000 Well, you don't have to move forward.

01:58:00.000 You don't have to advance.

01:58:01.000 That would be kind of interesting if you just stood there as the guy runs away.

01:58:04.000 I've never seen what Overeem's doing here.

01:58:06.000 Ever.

01:58:06.000 Well, you know what, man?

01:58:07.000 He got tagged a couple times, and I think he also realizes that Stipe is a fucking dangerous guy, and at this stage of his life, he's not that good at taking a shot.

01:58:17.000 You know, he's just not.

01:58:18.000 And then what scenario would have been better for him to do in that moment than to do that?

01:58:22.000 That was the fucking right thing to do.

01:58:24.000 That's self-defense right there.

01:58:25.000 You're in a bad position.

01:58:26.000 You're like, oh fuck, I gotta get back to where I'm set.

01:58:29.000 I'm gonna reset this thing.

01:58:31.000 Then why don't more guys run?

01:58:37.000 I don't think it's the best.

01:58:38.000 I mean, but if that's what he had at that moment, you know, I mean, it's not the best.

01:58:43.000 Like, there's guys that fight, like, maybe not in that division, but there's guys that fight.

01:58:48.000 Okay, here's a perfect example.

01:58:49.000 Kane.

01:58:50.000 Kane would never do that.

01:58:51.000 Or Stipe.

01:58:52.000 You're never going to see that ever.

01:58:53.000 It's not even in their brain to run.

01:58:56.000 They don't have that mechanism.

01:58:56.000 Kane's going to turn, plant himself, fire back, try to take you down, try to crack on you, whatever it is.

01:59:02.000 And probably Verdum is not going to run like that either.

01:59:05.000 Verdum's going to look for the clinch, or he's going to try to take you down as you move in like that.

01:59:08.000 Name another heavyweight that'd run like that.

01:59:10.000 Nobody.

01:59:11.000 Nobody currently.

01:59:12.000 No.

01:59:12.000 Nobody currently.

01:59:13.000 And there won't be a trend of it, I would probably guarantee that.

01:59:16.000 No, I think that was a high-pressure situation, and he thought that was his best move at the time.

01:59:20.000 But if you looked at what he did with Junior Dos Santos, he did a less extreme version of that.

01:59:24.000 He did a lot of moving away, but he landed hard shots and then ultimately knocked Junior out, so everybody forgave him for it.

01:59:30.000 Correct.

01:59:31.000 But it's that kind of movement, moving away from the conflict and picking a spot.

01:59:34.000 Stipe's best chance to win, too, is if you look at Stipe's wins, when he gets a guy against the cage, he goes to work.

01:59:40.000 So maybe he was like, you know what, I'm just gonna reset, go to the center, keep going to the center, because we know how good Stipe is with his game plan and back me up to the cage.

01:59:47.000 I don't know anything about his grappling.

01:59:49.000 Tell me Stipe.

01:59:51.000 I heard he's a really good wrestler recently.

01:59:52.000 College wrestler?

01:59:53.000 College?

01:59:54.000 I heard he was a wrestler.

01:59:55.000 Let's pull it up.

01:59:56.000 College wrestler at Cleveland State.

01:59:58.000 Also a real good athlete in other sports.

02:00:01.000 What about jiu-jitsu?

02:00:01.000 Well, baseball.

02:00:02.000 He's a baseball player.

02:00:02.000 Wanted to play professional baseball.

02:00:04.000 His jiu-jitsu is very good.

02:00:06.000 Not offensively.

02:00:08.000 Defensively.

02:00:09.000 He's not high-level trained, but his defense is amazing.

02:00:13.000 He's like Rashad Evans when it comes to defense.

02:00:16.000 No submission wins?

02:00:17.000 No, no.

02:00:18.000 Not a big smash.

02:00:20.000 And what about his striking specifically?

02:00:22.000 Boxing Golden Gloves champ from Cleveland.

02:00:24.000 Very good technique.

02:00:25.000 You see when he had Alistair against the ropes.

02:00:27.000 College wrestler, Division I college baseball player too.

02:00:32.000 You see when he had Alistair against the ropes or against the cage and just hit crisp combinations.

02:00:39.000 This fight is a motherfucker, kids.

02:00:40.000 Has a head like a pit bull.

02:00:42.000 He can take a shot.

02:00:46.000 This fight's going to be fun.

02:00:48.000 I'm excited for this fight.

02:00:50.000 Yeah, it should be a good one.

02:00:52.000 Yeah, the heavyweight division's in an unusual position right now, you know?

02:00:56.000 It's really interesting to see what happens.

02:00:58.000 Really interesting to see how well Kane's recovered from his surgery.

02:01:03.000 Obviously, he looked like a monster again against Travis.

02:01:05.000 That looked like the Kane of old, you know?

02:01:08.000 Kane steeped the fight.

02:01:09.000 It's the only fight.

02:01:10.000 Yeah.

02:01:11.000 What do you guys think about Tony Ferguson versus Dos Anjos?

02:01:14.000 Woo!

02:01:14.000 That's a motherfucking fight.

02:01:15.000 And it's in Mexico City, kids.

02:01:18.000 Dog, dog.

02:01:19.000 We're going to be in Big Bear for four weeks.

02:01:21.000 Yeah, he Instagrammed a picture from Big Bear.

02:01:23.000 Is he at Tito's old joint?

02:01:25.000 No, he's going to rent his own house.

02:01:27.000 Gio, Chai, Compella, Boogie.

02:01:30.000 We're all going to go up there and rotate.

02:01:32.000 That's a great fight, man.

02:01:33.000 When Tito was in his prime, he bought Oscar De La Hoya's training camp up there.

02:01:37.000 It's dope as fuck, man.

02:01:38.000 I heard it's amazing.

02:01:39.000 He had the cage set up there and he would do all his training.

02:01:42.000 I think Tito said he still owns it.

02:01:43.000 Does he?

02:01:44.000 He was on our show and I think he said he still owns it.

02:01:46.000 Shane Mosley has one too.

02:01:48.000 He rented it out to Canelo.

02:01:50.000 Now Canelo has a spot in San Diego.

02:01:53.000 A lot of guys are talking about how Being at altitude or being a Big Bear doesn't work as far as altitude-wise, but guys will still do it to get away from the world and get focused on it.

02:02:04.000 What do you mean by it doesn't work?

02:02:06.000 There's a lot of arguments about if it's better to sleep low or to train low and then sleep high.

02:02:13.000 And then people go up there to Big Bear, which if you're not there, I guess the argument is if you're not there for a long enough period of time.

02:02:21.000 We're good to go.

02:02:39.000 It simulates whatever altitude that you want.

02:02:41.000 What do you do, like sprints on a treadmill?

02:02:44.000 As soon as I sign the papers, if I have six weeks, eight weeks, however long it is for the fight, I just start sleeping and using it when I sleep.

02:02:51.000 And then as my cardio gets good and I'm starting to feel confident in my cardio and I start working it and testing it, then I'll start doing Tabata sprints with the mask at 10,000 feet on the treadmill.

02:03:03.000 Kirsten has me do it on a rowing machine.

02:03:06.000 But then I don't even do pad work, I do bag work, I do all kinds of shit with that fucking thing.

02:03:10.000 You're talking about a device, or you're talking about that training mask thing?

02:03:14.000 No, fuck that mask, not that mask.

02:03:16.000 I was going to say, give me shit on my face.

02:03:18.000 Hypoxico is the brand, and it's this big machine, and it pumps nitrogen, and so you're taking the same breaths, but volume-wise of those same breaths, where I'm breathing oxygen now, it would be 80% oxygen and 20% nitrogen, which lowers the amount of oxygen that you breathe,

02:03:35.000 and what that does is it It makes your body go, oh fuck, I'm not getting enough air out of each breath.

02:03:43.000 I need to be more whatever.

02:03:45.000 So your body will release red blood cells from your bone marrow.

02:03:52.000 And that's how you increase your red blood cell count.

02:03:55.000 That's interesting.

02:03:56.000 It's like blood doping.

02:03:58.000 But it's on a way lower scale.

02:04:00.000 It's a form of it, just legally.

02:04:02.000 My coach notices it right away when I started using it.

02:04:05.000 Like the...

02:04:07.000 Your lactic acid build up and your cardio will increase every time you do it.

02:04:11.000 And you do how many of those a week?

02:04:13.000 When you're in peak training?

02:04:14.000 When I'm like peaking, it depends on...

02:04:17.000 Like I said, every camp's different, but I'll try at least twice, three times a week.

02:04:20.000 But you're sleeping with it too?

02:04:21.000 And then I'm sleeping in it at night, yeah.

02:04:22.000 A tent?

02:04:23.000 Is it one of those tents?

02:04:24.000 Well, I had the big tent and...

02:04:26.000 My chick didn't like it and the tent was like too big.

02:04:29.000 Yeah, no shit.

02:04:29.000 The tent was like too big because there was like a room in a room.

02:04:32.000 It gets hot and then it smells like you're sleeping in a fucking tent.

02:04:35.000 It smells like soup.

02:04:36.000 I had one myself.

02:04:37.000 But mine was like, I was like, oh.

02:04:38.000 It smells like soup.

02:04:39.000 Don't fart in that motherfucker either.

02:04:41.000 Well, it's a big ass tent.

02:04:42.000 It'll fuck your whole night up.

02:04:43.000 It's a big ass tent.

02:04:44.000 It has like my fucking dressers and like it's a fucking room in a room.

02:04:48.000 So then I ended up getting a...

02:04:51.000 A pod?

02:04:52.000 No, I fucking made it.

02:04:53.000 It's actually really...

02:04:54.000 I wonder if I have a picture.

02:04:55.000 You made it yourself?

02:04:56.000 It's really impressive.

02:04:57.000 The air that we breathe.

02:04:58.000 I got these plastic bins at Home Depot, the biggest plastic bin I could find.

02:05:02.000 I cut one wall off of it.

02:05:04.000 I'm not even kidding.

02:05:05.000 You made your own hyperbolic chamber?

02:05:06.000 I plugged the thing in the back, and then I got a sheet, like a tarp, and I hang it so it's inside of the...

02:05:13.000 Inside, like, when I lay in, there's like a fucking plastic bin over my head.

02:05:17.000 Damn, you MacGyvered a fucking...

02:05:18.000 And then there's a plastic tarp which lays over the sheets or whatever, and then it's pumping the oxygen.

02:05:22.000 And that's how you sleep?

02:05:23.000 I don't know if that works, man.

02:05:24.000 Oh, it definitely works, too.

02:05:26.000 That's so gangster.

02:05:27.000 You MacGyvered a hyperbolic chamber.

02:05:30.000 God bless you, man.

02:05:31.000 You can't be paranoid of close paces when you're in a spot like that.

02:05:35.000 Your chicks sleep with you too in there?

02:05:37.000 That's the only way that she would do it because she didn't want the big ass tan anymore.

02:05:42.000 Sometimes she'll get in there and be like, she doesn't like it.

02:05:44.000 Then it's really way too close.

02:05:46.000 That's hilarious.

02:05:47.000 Shit you do.

02:05:48.000 But it does really increase your cardio.

02:05:52.000 Have you been in one of those, Joe?

02:05:54.000 No, I never slept in one of those.

02:05:55.000 I used to own one.

02:05:57.000 Yeah, the soup thing's hilarious.

02:05:58.000 What'd you own?

02:05:59.000 Oh, look!

02:05:59.000 They have one.

02:06:00.000 Look at that!

02:06:01.000 Look at this!

02:06:01.000 Hyperbolic or hyperbolic?

02:06:03.000 Hyperbaric.

02:06:04.000 So it was less oxygen like what I was talking about.

02:06:05.000 Yes.

02:06:06.000 Yeah, and it was one of those like pods and I'd sleep down there.

02:06:08.000 Well, hyperbaric.

02:06:09.000 Yeah, so I watched all these things.

02:06:10.000 You see that one on the top left that's like just over his head?

02:06:13.000 Yeah, it looks like they keep bugs out.

02:06:15.000 Hey, here we go.

02:06:15.000 That's what I used to...

02:06:17.000 This could be a quick one, gentlemen.

02:06:19.000 Brunson's trying to take Uriah Hall down.

02:06:21.000 Uriah Hall marched at him.

02:06:22.000 Fucking Marty, Joe, making your own shit.

02:06:23.000 That's insane.

02:06:24.000 Yeah.

02:06:26.000 Slaying those.

02:06:26.000 Aren't those hyperbaric chambers?

02:06:28.000 Or hypobaric or hyperbaric?

02:06:30.000 They're two different things, right?

02:06:31.000 Yeah, one of them pumps tons of oxygen into you, which is supposed to be really good for knockout recovery and stuff like that.

02:06:37.000 And then what I have is it decreases your oxygen.

02:06:40.000 You're basically suffocating yourself all night long.

02:06:42.000 Which one were you saying, Joe?

02:06:43.000 And then your body's like, oh, fuck, you need to be more red blood cells because you're dying.

02:06:47.000 Which one of you Shannon pumps the pure oxygen?

02:06:49.000 That's the hyper...

02:06:50.000 That's what I had.

02:06:51.000 Is it baric?

02:06:52.000 Isn't it baric?

02:06:53.000 That's what I had.

02:06:53.000 I thought it was hyperbaric.

02:06:55.000 I think it's hyperbaric.

02:06:56.000 Hyperbaric, yeah.

02:06:56.000 Hyperbaric, that's what I had.

02:06:57.000 But it was soft, so I guess it wasn't working as well.

02:07:00.000 So then I went to a guy in L.A. that had a hard one.

02:07:03.000 It was like this thick glass.

02:07:05.000 Yeah.

02:07:06.000 Well, I know Uriah Faber used that after the Aldo fight to repair his leg.

02:07:11.000 After he got leg kicked.

02:07:12.000 Yeah.

02:07:13.000 It was a brutal fight to watch.

02:07:14.000 His leg swole up.

02:07:16.000 Derek Brunson with a good knee to the body.

02:07:19.000 I don't see this fight last long.

02:07:23.000 Well, Brunson was able to stop the bum rush, which is big.

02:07:26.000 Oh, you got a lot of time, though.

02:07:27.000 Mm-hmm.

02:07:28.000 Let's see that spinning kick.

02:07:30.000 Powerful Jamaican shorts on your eye.

02:07:32.000 It's not just spinning kick, man.

02:07:33.000 It's his straight shots.

02:07:35.000 He's so efficient with his movements when he's striking.

02:07:38.000 He's tough to take down, man.

02:07:39.000 He was with us at rain.

02:07:40.000 He's a fucking freak athlete.

02:07:43.000 I think his distance is really hard to read, too.

02:07:45.000 His movement patterns and the distance that your highest strikes from is...

02:07:50.000 Oh!

02:07:51.000 Brunson with a left!

02:07:52.000 Brunson begs the dam for a shilling.

02:07:54.000 Oh, that is a wrap!

02:07:56.000 Oh my goodness.

02:07:57.000 Oh, dance it, dance it.

02:08:00.000 I'm not mad at that dance.

02:08:02.000 Wow.

02:08:03.000 I just can't get on track.

02:08:05.000 What do you think about that stoppage?

02:08:06.000 I think that was a little...

02:08:09.000 You know me, man.

02:08:09.000 Eddie needs to see that.

02:08:10.000 You know me.

02:08:10.000 What do you think I think?

02:08:12.000 You think it was premature.

02:08:12.000 You think it was way premature.

02:08:15.000 Let's see the replay.

02:08:16.000 It's Herb Dean again.

02:08:17.000 I mean, Herb Dean is a bad motherfucker, dude.

02:08:19.000 If Herb thought it was premature, he might have been.

02:08:22.000 Or if Herb thought it was time, he might have been able to see something.

02:08:24.000 You know why?

02:08:25.000 You know what kind of triggers a little bit is Uriah went for a single leg on Herb Dean.

02:08:29.000 That's usually a bad sign.

02:08:32.000 He did?

02:08:33.000 After the fact?

02:08:34.000 He sure did.

02:08:35.000 Is after he stopped it, right?

02:08:36.000 Yeah.

02:08:36.000 He went for a single leg on Herb.

02:08:38.000 Hmm.

02:08:40.000 We're supposed to put up a clock to sync this up.

02:08:42.000 Do you have a clock that syncs this up, Jamie?

02:08:43.000 I can put it up all the time, yeah.

02:08:45.000 Okay.

02:08:46.000 So I was almost thinking about rewinding it, but that'll fuck up our clock, right?

02:08:50.000 Brunson's saying, title shot.

02:08:51.000 You gotta relax.

02:08:52.000 They'll show it.

02:08:52.000 Is he saying title shot?

02:08:53.000 Yeah.

02:08:54.000 You gotta relax.

02:08:55.000 Let's check this out here.

02:08:56.000 You gotta relax.

02:08:57.000 I hear you.

02:08:58.000 I've been there myself.

02:08:59.000 Fakes it.

02:08:59.000 Kadoosh!

02:09:00.000 Beautiful left hook.

02:09:01.000 Beautiful.

02:09:02.000 He's pounding him.

02:09:04.000 Boom, boom, boom.

02:09:05.000 He's not really doing much there.

02:09:07.000 Did he get hit?

02:09:07.000 He's lifting his arms up.

02:09:08.000 Now watch this.

02:09:09.000 Now watch this.

02:09:10.000 This is how you know he's fucked up.

02:09:11.000 Watch him shoot this beautiful single leg on Herb.

02:09:14.000 Oh, what a left hook.

02:09:16.000 Oh my goodness.

02:09:16.000 Right on the chin.

02:09:17.000 Miss.

02:09:18.000 Oh, his head's not moving.

02:09:21.000 Look at this.

02:09:21.000 I ain't hitting him.

02:09:22.000 No, no, no.

02:09:23.000 You gotta give a guy a chance to recover.

02:09:24.000 Yeah, he wasn't even hitting him.

02:09:25.000 That was a little premature.

02:09:26.000 He was fucked up, though.

02:09:27.000 I mean, he definitely got tagged.

02:09:28.000 He was fucked up from getting dropped.

02:09:29.000 I just don't agree with that.

02:09:30.000 He was trying to move.

02:09:31.000 You know what?

02:09:32.000 Herb's a little off tonight.

02:09:33.000 Can we all agree on that?

02:09:34.000 We're all friends.

02:09:34.000 We all love him.

02:09:35.000 I don't know.

02:09:35.000 He's definitely...

02:09:36.000 Every now and then, you know...

02:09:37.000 I think this...

02:09:38.000 You gotta...

02:09:39.000 This was off.

02:09:39.000 Cut him some slack.

02:09:40.000 This was off.

02:09:41.000 He does such a great job.

02:09:43.000 Yeah.

02:09:43.000 Herb's having an off night.

02:09:44.000 Everyone has an off night in the office sometimes.

02:09:47.000 Sigh.

02:09:48.000 I don't know, man.

02:09:49.000 I mean, it's interesting because I would have liked to see Brunson actually finish it, finish it.

02:09:54.000 I mean, I think maybe if you gave him more time, he would have been able to finish it conclusively, and we wouldn't be sitting here doing this.

02:09:59.000 Correct.

02:10:00.000 Because you don't want to take anything away from that left hook.

02:10:02.000 That was beautiful.

02:10:03.000 You know what?

02:10:04.000 That was a little premature.

02:10:05.000 I agree with Eddie this time.

02:10:06.000 I think it was premature as well.

02:10:07.000 That left hook was money.

02:10:08.000 The other ones didn't get in there.

02:10:09.000 Because you know what?

02:10:10.000 When he shot that single leg to get up on Herb, right away he was like, what the fuck, man?

02:10:14.000 He grabbed it and was like, oh shit, come on, man.

02:10:17.000 He's like, why is your leg here?

02:10:18.000 Why do you have pants on?

02:10:19.000 What's going on here?

02:10:20.000 I mean, he was turned up and probably closing his eyes, you know?

02:10:24.000 Turtled up, trying to avoid the punches that were coming at his face.

02:10:27.000 Right.

02:10:28.000 Who knows?

02:10:28.000 It just seemed like they didn't land.

02:10:30.000 It's like he got hit with that one big shot, he goes down, but then the two afterwards, they were kind of deflected.

02:10:36.000 His head wasn't...

02:10:36.000 He wasn't doing what a guy who was conscious would do with his head or neck, I feel like.

02:10:42.000 Well, he was certainly conscious.

02:10:42.000 It's a matter of how compromised he was.

02:10:45.000 Yeah, well...

02:10:45.000 Because if you look at it, the head's not moving at all.

02:10:48.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:10:48.000 Like, his head's not reacting to anything.

02:10:50.000 His arms are up stiff, and it's not moving.

02:10:53.000 But it was enough to stop the two punches that he was trying to throw at him from hitting him.

02:10:57.000 Well, is that him, or is that bad shots on Brunson?

02:11:01.000 If you're on the fence about that, I think you'd let it go.

02:11:04.000 I agree with you on this one.

02:11:05.000 I agree with you on this one.

02:11:05.000 Here's where you give Herb Dean the benefit of the doubt, though.

02:11:08.000 He said Herb was looking in his eyes while all the shit was going down.

02:11:11.000 And he might have not been there.

02:11:12.000 I agree.

02:11:13.000 He might have been off in the dark lands.

02:11:15.000 Or Herb's angle, different from the camera, it actually looks like he's getting hit.

02:11:21.000 Yeah.

02:11:21.000 Whereas our angle is just as better.

02:11:23.000 Hmm.

02:11:23.000 Maybe.

02:11:24.000 You know?

02:11:25.000 Yeah.

02:11:25.000 I would say that Herb has the best view ever, though, right?

02:11:28.000 Ever.

02:11:28.000 He's on top of him.

02:11:30.000 Ever.

02:11:30.000 It's interesting.

02:11:31.000 It's hard to really predict.

02:11:35.000 Where are they tonight?

02:11:37.000 Hildago.

02:11:38.000 Where the hell is that?

02:11:39.000 South Texas, near the border of Mexico.

02:11:41.000 For our show, I put hashtag, where the fuck is Hildago?

02:11:45.000 And then some guy's like, I'm from there, asshole.

02:11:49.000 If you're from Hildago, relax.

02:11:50.000 What's the closest major city to Hildago?

02:11:53.000 Mexico.

02:11:55.000 Yeah, I actually don't know.

02:11:57.000 I have no idea.

02:11:58.000 Don't quote me on that.

02:11:59.000 Yeah, if you want to fly in, you've got to fly to Mexico, and they take you over on some sort of a shuttle.

02:12:04.000 Am I right?

02:12:04.000 Yeah.

02:12:05.000 Right on the border.

02:12:05.000 Oh, it is right on the border.

02:12:07.000 Public school's paying off, son.

02:12:09.000 Wow, that's really right on the border.

02:12:11.000 How many miles is it from the border of Mexico?

02:12:13.000 Let's just do it in Mexico, huh, UFC? Holy shit.

02:12:17.000 I mean, it's right there.

02:12:18.000 Was I right about Juarez?

02:12:20.000 They should have just brought in all Mexican fighters and treated it like a Mexico City card.

02:12:23.000 And then have cartel as the security.

02:12:26.000 Be sick.

02:12:26.000 Yeah!

02:12:27.000 Right?

02:12:27.000 Be fucking sick.

02:12:28.000 And then they all come out to mariachi bands and narco songs.

02:12:31.000 Yeah.

02:12:31.000 They're all at the Canelo fight, but yeah, that'd be a brilliant idea.

02:12:34.000 That's right.

02:12:34.000 That's why they do it tonight.

02:12:35.000 It's in Dallas Stadium, son.

02:12:36.000 Is it?

02:12:36.000 How about Liam Smith?

02:12:37.000 He's never fought outside the UK. And they're like, oh, cool.

02:12:40.000 Here's Canelo in Dallas Stadium sold out.

02:12:43.000 Get you some.

02:12:44.000 Wow.

02:12:46.000 What is that, 50,000 people?

02:12:48.000 60-something, isn't it?

02:12:49.000 60,000?

02:12:51.000 Canelson can sell some fucking tickets.

02:12:54.000 What's interesting is Gennady Golovkin can't.

02:12:56.000 I know.

02:12:57.000 It's weird.

02:12:57.000 He does pay-per-views.

02:12:58.000 They don't do well.

02:12:59.000 They really don't.

02:13:00.000 That's why he fought on HBO last week.

02:13:03.000 He's not really a pay-per-view fighter, but man, in my eyes, there's no more exciting fighter maybe ever.

02:13:10.000 He's blood and guts.

02:13:11.000 He's got nasty face.

02:13:13.000 He's up there.

02:13:14.000 He's got nasty boxing, beautiful movement.

02:13:16.000 Then he gets on the mic and goes, Big drama show!

02:13:18.000 I try big drama show!

02:13:20.000 Alright, man.

02:13:21.000 We need something else.

02:13:22.000 You gotta take English lessons.

02:13:23.000 Crank.

02:13:24.000 Here it goes.

02:13:25.000 So he's down.

02:13:26.000 Boom.

02:13:27.000 Boom.

02:13:28.000 Boom.

02:13:28.000 See the limp left hand?

02:13:29.000 You see the limp left hand, though?

02:13:31.000 Not doing much?

02:13:32.000 I don't know, man.

02:13:32.000 It's hard to see from there.

02:13:34.000 Let's see it from here.

02:13:35.000 We can all agree on this.

02:13:36.000 Boom!

02:13:37.000 That's a funny shot, yeah.

02:13:38.000 That was a beautiful left hook.

02:13:42.000 No, those don't land, man.

02:13:44.000 Here's my thing is that he's probably still fucked up from that shot while he's down there, but you didn't stop him from the shot, and then those three things that he threw all missed.

02:13:54.000 So what changed, you know?

02:13:56.000 Yeah, it's certainly controversial.

02:13:58.000 But he was definitely fucked up on the ground there, but he wasn't getting more fucked up when he stopped it.

02:14:03.000 It's too bad it's controversial because Brunson landed that perfect left hook.

02:14:07.000 He would never want to take anything away from that moment, you know?

02:14:10.000 That's nothing on Brunson, right?

02:14:11.000 But it is.

02:14:12.000 If everybody says it's a bullshit stoppage, it makes you feel bad.

02:14:15.000 People are going to hate on him.

02:14:16.000 It should be clean.

02:14:17.000 Hey, Herb, you're going to have to give your eye half your paycheck now.

02:14:20.000 I hate to be shitty about it.

02:14:21.000 Could they fucking please put a 145-pound weight class in instead of having Cyborg starve herself every time they let her fight?

02:14:29.000 It doesn't make any sense.

02:14:31.000 Well, because that 145, she's gonna kill a bitch.

02:14:33.000 At least a 140, she's dehydrated.

02:14:35.000 What poor soul is going in there to fight this girl?

02:14:38.000 Could there be a scarier fighter than Cyborg?

02:14:41.000 The woman, Lena Landsberg is her name, and she's a world Muay Thai champion.

02:14:45.000 I don't give a fuck.

02:14:47.000 She's actually very badass.

02:14:49.000 Fantastic.

02:14:49.000 Fly down Brazil and fight Cyborg.

02:14:52.000 Yeah, in Brazil.

02:14:52.000 She's going to punch you in the face so hard.

02:14:55.000 Now, you want to talk about Mike Tyson effect?

02:14:57.000 There you go.

02:14:58.000 There you go.

02:14:59.000 Why don't you relax?

02:14:59.000 Who's Lena Landsberg?

02:15:00.000 I don't know.

02:15:01.000 She's a world Muay Thai kickboxing champion.

02:15:03.000 Oh, shit.

02:15:04.000 Very good striker.

02:15:05.000 She's got nasty elbows.

02:15:06.000 Particularly good in the clench.

02:15:08.000 Knees to the body.

02:15:08.000 I bet she's fantastic.

02:15:09.000 Elbows over the top.

02:15:10.000 Yeah, I bet she's great.

02:15:11.000 Anyone want to bet on that?

02:15:13.000 Yeah, bitch.

02:15:14.000 You don't even know what she fights like.

02:15:16.000 Did you see what happened when she fought Jorina Barge?

02:15:18.000 I don't care who's Cyborg.

02:15:19.000 Did you see when she fought Jorina Barge?

02:15:20.000 I sure didn't.

02:15:21.000 I've seen Cyborg fight.

02:15:22.000 Jermaine Durandamay is the same weight class.

02:15:23.000 135. Dude, she's bad.

02:15:25.000 Yeah, Cyborg's a monster.

02:15:31.000 She's terrifying.

02:15:32.000 She beats the shit out of chicks.

02:15:35.000 What superstar are they going to feed her?

02:15:36.000 She lost to Jorina Barge in a fight where Barge dominated her.

02:15:40.000 This is Lena Landsberg.

02:15:43.000 She's good, dude.

02:15:44.000 She's a good kickboxer.

02:15:46.000 She's got good striking, good movement.

02:15:48.000 She's good, man.

02:15:49.000 That's her shit, right?

02:15:50.000 That front kick jab?

02:15:51.000 Well, she throws a round kick and then she comes from behind it when you're recovering with her right hand.

02:15:55.000 But she's got good elbows and a clinch, too.

02:15:58.000 The question is, is she going to be strong enough to keep Cyborg off of her?

02:16:01.000 That's the real question.

02:16:03.000 Is she going to keep her head enough to use her movement and her technique?

02:16:07.000 She's fucking good, dude.

02:16:08.000 She's a good striker.

02:16:10.000 Doesn't go past two rounds.

02:16:12.000 I don't think so.

02:16:13.000 Too bad Brian Callen's not here to bet you in a way where...

02:16:17.000 Here he owes me 12 fucking grand.

02:16:18.000 I'm done betting that.

02:16:19.000 12 grand?

02:16:20.000 Sorry.

02:16:21.000 For real?

02:16:22.000 You got me fired up, Joe.

02:16:26.000 I'm done betting Callen till he pays me.

02:16:28.000 Callen bet him, and then he lost the second.

02:16:30.000 He's like, let's go double or nothing.

02:16:31.000 They bet six grand.

02:16:32.000 He lost.

02:16:33.000 He's like, double or nothing.

02:16:34.000 So he loses again, and now he's ghost.

02:16:37.000 I haven't heard from him.

02:16:38.000 Yeah, he's hiding in New York.

02:16:40.000 Until New York had that bomb.

02:16:40.000 He goes, brother, I'm safe.

02:16:42.000 Let's just forget about the money, huh?

02:16:43.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:16:44.000 He set the bomb so he doesn't have to pay you.

02:16:47.000 I had your money.

02:16:48.000 We got blown up.

02:16:49.000 It's fucking crazy.

02:16:50.000 He was in a suitcase.

02:16:51.000 I need more time.

02:16:52.000 This is going to sound amazing.

02:16:54.000 Yeah.

02:16:55.000 You can't bet those large sums unless you're going to pay up.

02:16:59.000 That's a lot of money.

02:17:00.000 Yeah, the Jesus is running.

02:17:02.000 The Colonel is a pimp?

02:17:03.000 Did you guys see that?

02:17:04.000 Yeah.

02:17:06.000 George, what the fuck's his name, right?

02:17:08.000 George Hamilton?

02:17:09.000 They have a different Colonel Sanders every week now.

02:17:11.000 I like the pimp one.

02:17:12.000 Rob Riggle's one now, too.

02:17:14.000 They should keep that one forever.

02:17:16.000 I'd like to see Arsenio.

02:17:17.000 So what was your two bets?

02:17:18.000 He bet on Overeem?

02:17:19.000 Conor Diaz.

02:17:20.000 So he bet on Diaz in the first fight, and then he bet on Overeem in the Stipe fight?

02:17:25.000 But he's the one that won, and I go, dude, I don't want, just pay me my money.

02:17:29.000 He goes, no, no, no, Overeem, Stipe.

02:17:31.000 And he goes, you get to pick first.

02:17:32.000 I'm like, I'll take Stipe, but you gotta pay him.

02:17:34.000 He goes, fine, I'll take Overeem.

02:17:36.000 So when he lost, you guys have done podcasts since then.

02:17:41.000 What kind of conversations have you had about the money that he lost?

02:17:44.000 He's like, do I have to check in my car, blah, blah, blah.

02:17:46.000 And then we do the show, and then after he just dips out.

02:17:49.000 So you ask him, point blank, are you going to pay me?

02:17:52.000 Yeah, and he's like, I swear I'm going to pay.

02:17:54.000 He said, I swear I'm going to pay.

02:17:56.000 The thing is, it's tough when he's up front.

02:17:59.000 What are you going to do?

02:18:00.000 You're going to not pay him for the t-shirts.

02:18:02.000 Yeah, that's what I could do.

02:18:04.000 I could just not pay him for merchandise.

02:18:06.000 Or are you just going to accept the fact that everything with him is sort of theater?

02:18:10.000 That's what I'm going to accept.

02:18:11.000 I would never take money from him.

02:18:13.000 Yeah, that's interesting.

02:18:14.000 I mean, if you gave me a check, it's a lot of money, man.

02:18:17.000 If you lost $12,000 and came to him with $12,000 in a bag and just handed it to him, pushed it over to him, he said, are you sure?

02:18:27.000 And you're like, yeah, you won.

02:18:28.000 Do you think he'd give it back to you?

02:18:30.000 I do.

02:18:31.000 Really?

02:18:31.000 I do.

02:18:32.000 You would know Brian better than me, but I feel like you would.

02:18:36.000 I just keep going double or nothing till he wins, and then there you go.

02:18:39.000 That's what he was hoping.

02:18:40.000 Yeah, you just keep going.

02:18:41.000 But I won't bet on that, because you can't make a bid out of it.

02:18:45.000 You see how big you can go before he's eventually going to win.

02:18:51.000 You'd be surprised.

02:18:53.000 Can he owe you $250,000?

02:18:58.000 He's not going to pay you, but just see how high you can go.

02:19:00.000 Well, then no one cares.

02:19:01.000 Well, no one cares.

02:19:02.000 If they know that he's never going to pay, then why care?

02:19:05.000 Why bad?

02:19:06.000 You see how high you can go.

02:19:07.000 I have to hold him accountable.

02:19:08.000 If Callan is on a plane that gets hit by an asteroid and he dies, you go after his family.

02:19:14.000 Oh yeah, I'm going to tell his wife, God, this sucks.

02:19:16.000 I'm going to need that 12K. I've got to...

02:19:19.000 Document it on air.

02:19:20.000 We've talked about it.

02:19:21.000 He owes me $85,000.

02:19:24.000 You know what?

02:19:24.000 Let me just take this test.

02:19:25.000 And listen, 12 becomes 24 real quick.

02:19:28.000 Real quick.

02:19:29.000 24 becomes 48 real quick.

02:19:31.000 You know how it becomes 24?

02:19:32.000 Because he wanted to bet on Yoel versus Weidman, because I want Weidman.

02:19:35.000 No, he wants to go more!

02:19:37.000 He wants to go.

02:19:37.000 Keep going.

02:19:38.000 Keep going.

02:19:39.000 No, he has to figure it out.

02:19:40.000 Just keep going.

02:19:41.000 Come on, man.

02:19:42.000 That's entertainment right there.

02:19:42.000 Eddie Bravo is 100% right.

02:19:44.000 But pretend like you really want the money so that your audience...

02:19:47.000 Yes.

02:19:48.000 You can't pretend.

02:19:49.000 I really want my fucking money.

02:19:51.000 This is show business, Brendan.

02:19:52.000 Yeah, I don't bet like that with friends.

02:19:54.000 I'll bet a friend a hundred bucks.

02:19:56.000 I don't mind paying a friend a hundred bucks.

02:19:58.000 But, like, I don't want anybody giving me a thousand dollars.

02:20:01.000 Me neither.

02:20:01.000 I feel shitty about it.

02:20:02.000 It feels like that would hurt.

02:20:03.000 I agree.

02:20:04.000 I don't want to, like, take away from his kid's horse riding lessons or some shit.

02:20:08.000 Yeah.

02:20:08.000 That just seems like...

02:20:10.000 Like, that's a weird thing with, like, rich dudes.

02:20:12.000 Like, if you're like a Lorenzo Fertitta or some sort of super rich dude type kid, like, if you're gonna have a bet, that shit's gotta be preposterous.

02:20:21.000 Just to get your heart rate up.

02:20:23.000 Yeah, just for you to care?

02:20:24.000 Yeah, Mark Cuban and Lorenzo Fertitta, they get drunk together one night, and they decide, let's get down.

02:20:30.000 You wanna have a bet, motherfucker?

02:20:31.000 And they get crazy, and they look at, like, a $50 million bet.

02:20:35.000 No, they're betting like private jets.

02:20:37.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:20:38.000 Different level.

02:20:39.000 I don't know, man.

02:20:40.000 You thought they were rich before.

02:20:41.000 Holy shit.

02:20:42.000 How's Lorenzo partying these days?

02:20:45.000 Playing the same, nothing changes.

02:20:47.000 I just need a gold spaceship, and he's just gonna have a window where only his dick hangs out.

02:20:51.000 He just goes everywhere in a helicopter.

02:20:54.000 If you had a trillion dollars, wouldn't you just go everywhere in a helicopter?

02:20:57.000 You would just like...

02:20:58.000 I don't know, man.

02:20:59.000 Why fuck with traffic?

02:21:00.000 Can you imagine the stereo system he has in his helicopter?

02:21:03.000 Holy shit.

02:21:04.000 Nothing changes for those guys.

02:21:06.000 Yeah, I think they were already so super rich.

02:21:08.000 They're just, you know, more super rich.

02:21:10.000 And if I had to guess, he's probably going to get into the football game.

02:21:14.000 Because he's a big fan of football.

02:21:16.000 Oh, kids coming to Vegas.

02:21:17.000 Kids play football.

02:21:18.000 Yeah, they're talking about that.

02:21:20.000 And there was a Raider front office looking at the facilities for practices already.

02:21:27.000 A Las Vegas NFL team?

02:21:29.000 Oakland Raiders will go there.

02:21:30.000 Interesting.

02:21:31.000 I guarantee you.

02:21:32.000 Bet on that.

02:21:33.000 The Fertittas will have some part in that.

02:21:35.000 They're great guys.

02:21:36.000 They're brilliant.

02:21:37.000 You know, I've also heard, and I don't...

02:21:39.000 It could be true, I don't know.

02:21:41.000 This is from guys dealing with him.

02:21:43.000 Since the sale, everyone says Dane is so much better to deal with on negotiations.

02:21:49.000 I guess since sale, he's just way cooler to deal with now.

02:21:52.000 For whatever reason, maybe, you know, who knows.

02:21:55.000 But they say he's just way...

02:21:56.000 You know, not that he wasn't...

02:21:58.000 Impossible to deal with.

02:21:59.000 I just just his demeanor is completely different in a positive way.

02:22:03.000 Interesting.

02:22:04.000 Which is cool to hear.

02:22:04.000 Yeah, I mean he was already, Dana's been super rich for a long time, but there's super rich and then there's like how many hundreds of millions of dollars did he make from that shit?

02:22:13.000 Four hundred.

02:22:14.000 Something like that.

02:22:14.000 He hasn't got all of it yet.

02:22:15.000 It's like over years, but still.

02:22:17.000 Yeah, whatever.

02:22:17.000 Yeah.

02:22:18.000 There's like a level.

02:22:20.000 From what I've heard from people that are going through negotiations right now, they're like, dude, it's crazy.

02:22:25.000 He's way better to deal with.

02:22:26.000 Interesting.

02:22:27.000 That's awesome.

02:22:28.000 Yeah.

02:22:30.000 I'm very curious to see what these guys...

02:22:33.000 You know, Ari Emanuel is a super savvy entertainment dude.

02:22:37.000 You know, his knowledge about the business is pretty much unparalleled.

02:22:42.000 Or at the very least, at the top of the heap.

02:22:45.000 It's him and then CA. He's got some crazy connections in the world.

02:22:48.000 It's going to be interesting to see what they can pull off.

02:22:50.000 Because, you know, I don't know how long the deal with Fox goes on, but...

02:22:53.000 I think it's another two years.

02:22:55.000 I was having a conversation with Dana way back before they were doing this Fox deal.

02:23:00.000 They were talking about buying a network at one point in time.

02:23:02.000 And it was like right before the economy collapsed.

02:23:05.000 If they wound up buying that network, who knows where the fucking sport would be.

02:23:09.000 You know what I think is going to happen?

02:23:10.000 I think once the Fox deal is up, and I may not have heard this from some smart, smart people involved in it.

02:23:16.000 You know how the NFL and NBA, it's just not on Fox, on CBS, NBC. They think ESPN, Fox, they're not going to just be on one network with just Fox.

02:23:27.000 Have the lightweights and the welterweights on NBC. You're going to see ESPN promoting UFC fights big time.

02:23:32.000 Some big fights.

02:23:34.000 You're going to see Fox doing it.

02:23:35.000 Similar how the NBA and NFL is.

02:23:37.000 That makes sense.

02:23:38.000 They just did an NFL game this week, broadcasted on Twitter live on Thursday night.

02:23:42.000 It was on the actual...

02:23:57.000 Do you guys have those things, those little stands that you put in your bed and you clip your phone where you could just watch your phone like shit?

02:24:04.000 No, I hate my phone.

02:24:05.000 Because generally, for the longest time, I'd have to hold it, kind of set it.

02:24:09.000 You know, if I wanted to watch anything on my phone.

02:24:12.000 Now, my wife got me to stand.

02:24:14.000 Yeah, where it's an awesome clip where now I look forward to getting in bed and just watching Netflix.

02:24:19.000 Why don't you get an iPad?

02:24:20.000 Yeah, I want you to spot on the TV, though, huh?

02:24:22.000 I do that, too.

02:24:23.000 I do that, too, but it's nice to get in bed.

02:24:25.000 Because, you know, if you take an iPhone here and you hold it to your face like this, that's like sitting in the last row in a movie theater.

02:24:32.000 No, it's not.

02:24:33.000 It's exactly the same thing.

02:24:34.000 It's going to fuck your eyes up.

02:24:35.000 Yes, it is.

02:24:36.000 No, it's not.

02:24:36.000 Yes, it is.

02:24:37.000 No, your eyes don't move very much.

02:24:38.000 No, no, no.

02:24:39.000 When you're looking at the last row of a movie theater, you're looking at this big thing.

02:24:42.000 It's still a big thing.

02:24:43.000 You're moving your head around.

02:24:44.000 A lot of shit's going on.

02:24:46.000 This thing is, you've got to like, oh, there's a little thing right in front of me.

02:24:48.000 I've got to pretend it's big.

02:24:49.000 Think about it.

02:24:50.000 Think about it.

02:24:51.000 I am thinking about it.

02:24:52.000 When you're lying in bed, turn off all the lights and then put your phone like this close.

02:24:57.000 It's the exact same proportions that if you're sitting in the last row in a movie theater.

02:25:02.000 Yeah.

02:25:02.000 Ooh, look at this.

02:25:03.000 These guys are getting in each other's face right before the fight.

02:25:05.000 Well, you know they have those VR goggle headsets.

02:25:07.000 It's actually a phone.

02:25:08.000 You slide a Samsung phone into this VR goggle and it becomes like a virtual reality headset.

02:25:14.000 Aren't Samsung phones blowing up?

02:25:15.000 They're blowing up, yes.

02:25:16.000 Is that real?

02:25:17.000 Like crazy, dude.

02:25:18.000 The Note 7. How will...

02:25:20.000 That's going to destroy Samsung.

02:25:22.000 It's gonna destroy them.

02:25:23.000 Who the fuck would get a phone with one of those?

02:25:25.000 They blow up?

02:25:26.000 Oh, are people dying?

02:25:27.000 Dude, people's houses...

02:25:28.000 Oh, they actually blow up.

02:25:29.000 I like what you're saying.

02:25:29.000 They're blowing up.

02:25:30.000 This dude in Florida videotaped his house.

02:25:33.000 His house caught on fire from a fucking Samsung phone.

02:25:36.000 Have people died from Samsung phones?

02:25:38.000 Blowing up, literally.

02:25:39.000 Yeah, look at that.

02:25:40.000 That's not good.

02:25:41.000 Oh no, they're done.

02:25:42.000 Can you imagine the stock right now with Samsung?

02:25:45.000 Oh, it dropped radically.

02:25:47.000 Oh shit, no more microwaves, nothing.

02:25:49.000 There's one where a guy was in his driveway, he had his car, his phone charging, just sitting on his console, burst into flame, came out, his dog was barking, his fucking car is on fire, ablaze in his driveway, from his goddamn phone.

02:26:04.000 They videotaped the whole thing, so he's like, what the fuck is this?

02:26:07.000 Do your kids ever go through your phone and look at videos and shit?

02:26:09.000 You let them watch cartoons on your phone every now and then, right?

02:26:12.000 Imagine.

02:26:12.000 Yeah, imagine if it blew up on them.

02:26:13.000 Imagine that shit constantly.

02:26:13.000 Oh, man.

02:26:14.000 Well, a six-year-old boy did apparently get burned.

02:26:17.000 From a phone blown up in his hand.

02:26:20.000 If they're recalling these phones, imagine how many people got fucked up from them.

02:26:22.000 Dude, they recalled a million phones.

02:26:24.000 Holy shit.

02:26:25.000 A million phones.

02:26:26.000 I wonder how many accidents.

02:26:27.000 Can you find out how many accidents, Jamie?

02:26:29.000 Is that possible?

02:26:30.000 I just said there was like 25, 26, 26 reports of burns and 55 reports of property damage, including fires.

02:26:39.000 That's a lot for a fucking phone.

02:26:41.000 I bet it's zero for iPhone.

02:26:42.000 I bet zero iPhones are blowing up.

02:26:45.000 Yeah, well, this is the first time this has ever happened with any major manufacturer.

02:26:49.000 I've never heard of anything like this before.

02:26:51.000 Just like that thing you were talking about?

02:26:52.000 Those cars back in the day, like the Pintos and shit, were killing people, right?

02:26:56.000 But that was from accidents.

02:26:56.000 They'd get rear-ended and the gas tank was in a bad position.

02:26:59.000 How about that thing you were talking about, Elon Musk came up with a battery that stores solar energy?

02:27:04.000 How fucking dangerous would that be?

02:27:06.000 Like some kind of cell that's holding all this energy?

02:27:09.000 Holy shit, you'd want to put that in the back shed, like on the other side of the backyard.

02:27:13.000 It's a good point if it blows up like these Samsung phones, right?

02:27:17.000 Yeah, real good point.

02:27:19.000 Because think about how small the phone is, and think about how big the battery bank must be to power your fucking J-Lo mansion.

02:27:25.000 Oh, that's what the energy companies can do.

02:27:27.000 That's what I come back to.

02:27:27.000 They can just start false flagging houses blowing up.

02:27:32.000 Solar energy's blowing up houses.

02:27:34.000 That's an easy one.

02:27:35.000 And then everyone's like, oh, we're going to stay on the grid.

02:27:37.000 Fuck that sun shit.

02:27:40.000 Yeah.

02:27:41.000 Here we go.

02:27:42.000 What do you think about this fight?

02:27:43.000 What do you think about this fight?

02:27:45.000 Tremendous amount of shit talking between these two.

02:27:47.000 Wayans were a really good fight.

02:27:48.000 It's a really good fight, man.

02:27:50.000 They're just a really good fight.

02:27:51.000 Johnson, it's very interesting because he's, at times, looks real good striking.

02:27:58.000 But the question is, does he have enough to hang with Poirier?

02:28:02.000 And does he choose to strike with him or does he try to take him down?

02:28:05.000 Like, what is he going to do here?

02:28:06.000 It's going to be really interesting.

02:28:08.000 Poirier pretty much has the same strategy always.

02:28:10.000 Presses forward and tries to strike.

02:28:13.000 Looks great at this weight class, though.

02:28:15.000 Jamie just pulled up some shit where they're already on Tesla for blowing up, right?

02:28:18.000 Put that back up, Jamie.

02:28:20.000 Look at this.

02:28:21.000 Tesla spontaneously catches fire, burns down during test drive in France.

02:28:26.000 You know what?

02:28:27.000 They should put that on.

02:28:27.000 All they got to do is put that on CNN, like, all day for a week.

02:28:31.000 Fuck.

02:28:31.000 That's it.

02:28:32.000 And then that's it.

02:28:33.000 It's so easy to get rid of good technology.

02:28:36.000 Well, they had a problem with Teslas early on where if underground debris or ground debris, like if they rolled over some rocks or something like that and it damaged the undercarriage, then it could have some issues.

02:28:48.000 So they fixed that issue somehow or another.

02:28:51.000 They probably like polyurea coated the bottom of the cars or something.

02:28:54.000 It says they put a titanium shield on the bottom to stop that.

02:28:57.000 There you go.

02:28:57.000 That helps.

02:28:57.000 Oh, man.

02:28:59.000 It's so easy to get rid of Tesla.

02:29:03.000 This is an interesting fight here, man.

02:29:05.000 Because Michael Johnson at one point in time was looking real good.

02:29:08.000 He was climbing that ladder.

02:29:09.000 Six fight win streak.

02:29:10.000 But the Nate Diaz fight set him back quite a bit.

02:29:14.000 He got dismantled in that fight.

02:29:15.000 That was the best Nate's ever looked.

02:29:17.000 Good luck being that Nate.

02:29:18.000 Yeah, Nate looked real good, man.

02:29:20.000 And I was talking to Ludwig about it.

02:29:21.000 He was talking about how the way Nate throws is 1-2.

02:29:25.000 He goes, like, most people go 1-2.

02:29:27.000 Like, the left hand and then the right hand comes behind it.

02:29:30.000 With Nate, they're coming at you at the same time.

02:29:33.000 It's like, uh-huh.

02:29:35.000 They're coming together.

02:29:37.000 Yeah, he's like, it's a totally different rhythm.

02:29:39.000 Oh!

02:29:40.000 It's over.

02:29:41.000 That's a wrap, son.

02:29:43.000 Hold up.

02:29:43.000 Yeah, for sure jump the fuck in there on that one.

02:29:45.000 Oh my goodness.

02:29:46.000 Oh my goodness.

02:29:50.000 Henry Hooft and Michael Johnson.

02:29:52.000 Michael Johnson got it done.

02:29:54.000 He's doing the give me my money.

02:29:55.000 He's doing the old Johnny Manziel.

02:29:58.000 Michael Johnson.

02:29:59.000 Oh, stand over.

02:30:00.000 Oh, wow.

02:30:01.000 Well, you're not doing any fans.

02:30:02.000 He just said fuck you, bitch.

02:30:03.000 Wow.

02:30:03.000 It's a fight.

02:30:04.000 He said, fuck him.

02:30:05.000 And he just said, fuck him.

02:30:07.000 Wow, there must have been some serious shit talking before this.

02:30:09.000 Oh, look at Poirier talking shit to him.

02:30:12.000 Yeah, you can't.

02:30:12.000 You can't do that at this point.

02:30:13.000 Why don't you guys fight?

02:30:14.000 Oh, wait.

02:30:14.000 You can't do that at this point.

02:30:16.000 Remember when Tank Abbott fought Nelmark?

02:30:19.000 He fought somebody.

02:30:20.000 No, no, no.

02:30:22.000 It wasn't him.

02:30:23.000 It was a Taekwondo guy.

02:30:24.000 Forget his name.

02:30:25.000 But he fought a Taekwondo dude who fought in the earlier UFC. And Tank...

02:30:30.000 Fucked him up and he fucked him up too long and the ref tried to stop, John McCarthy tried to stop it but he hit him like an extra shot and then the guy tried to fight Tank after that for fucking him up.

02:30:43.000 It was so weird like he wanted to fuck him up for fucking him up.

02:30:47.000 Dude, they're trying to rally Johnson here, just being like, dude, calm down.

02:30:51.000 Oh, what's going on here, man?

02:30:52.000 Because he keeps talking shit.

02:30:55.000 Beautiful.

02:30:55.000 He's totally out of position.

02:30:57.000 Dustin Poirier's feet were totally out of position, and Johnson landed a perfect shot.

02:31:01.000 Look, the referee lost his shoe.

02:31:03.000 Powerful black sketch.

02:31:04.000 First time ever.

02:31:04.000 That's what you get to win fucking sketchers.

02:31:06.000 Boom, bam.

02:31:08.000 It's interesting from the other angle because his feet were completely out of position.

02:31:12.000 And then he cracked him again.

02:31:13.000 Damn.

02:31:13.000 Look at this.

02:31:14.000 Look at where Poirier's feet are.

02:31:15.000 Look at where it lands.

02:31:16.000 Great defense by Johnson.

02:31:18.000 Yeah.

02:31:18.000 Boom.

02:31:19.000 Beautiful.

02:31:19.000 Bam, bam, bam, bam.

02:31:22.000 How cool would it be if you had a line to the truck from here?

02:31:24.000 You know when you're working the show?

02:31:27.000 Look at that!

02:31:28.000 Look at that fucking walk!

02:31:30.000 Dude, it took security and even Dan Mariola yanked him down the cage like, dude, calm down!

02:31:35.000 Even the cut man was like, dude, chill!

02:31:37.000 Quit talking shit!

02:31:38.000 He's still doing that, give me my money thing.

02:31:41.000 Give me my paper.

02:31:42.000 Wow.

02:31:43.000 See, this is where I was like, why are you cutting away from the controversy?

02:31:47.000 Put it on.

02:31:48.000 Let's hear what these guys are saying to each other.

02:31:50.000 Yeah, I agree.

02:31:51.000 Let's see what Johnson was saying to them.

02:31:52.000 I'd much rather see that than this.

02:31:54.000 Yeah, mic them up.

02:31:55.000 I love me some Dan Hardy, but I'd much rather see those two jawing at it.

02:32:00.000 Well, you know, there's time for that, and then there's time for this after that's done.

02:32:03.000 It's true.

02:32:04.000 It's also time for fucking Burger King.

02:32:06.000 Let them jaw at each other.

02:32:08.000 Come on, folks.

02:32:09.000 Let's see what they said.

02:32:10.000 I mean, they must have said some awful shit to each other for Johnson to knock him out and still be mad.

02:32:15.000 You must have been saying some more awful shit for Security and the Cutman, like, hey, let's relax a little.

02:32:21.000 You won, my man.

02:32:21.000 Pretty amped up.

02:32:22.000 It's always weird to me when guys are mad after the fight.

02:32:25.000 Like, you won, man.

02:32:27.000 You physically beat me up.

02:32:28.000 Let's relax.

02:32:29.000 Yeah.

02:32:30.000 It's always weird to me.

02:32:31.000 Wow, that's a setback and a half for Poirier.

02:32:34.000 But that high you get.

02:32:35.000 That high, like, I'm a fucking conqueror.

02:32:37.000 Now I don't have to take any shit.

02:32:39.000 Now you just want to fuck more people up, right?

02:32:41.000 I can only imagine, because I've never, ever fucked anybody up.

02:32:45.000 Right?

02:32:45.000 I can never imagine.

02:32:47.000 All I do is...

02:32:48.000 Have you had animosity, Joe?

02:32:51.000 You beat a guy.

02:32:52.000 Let's say there's bad blood before.

02:32:54.000 You guys fight.

02:32:55.000 Do you carry on?

02:32:56.000 Do you hold that bad blood in the locker room?

02:32:59.000 No.

02:32:59.000 Kind of get it out, right?

02:33:00.000 I don't think so, yeah.

02:33:01.000 Never.

02:33:02.000 Usually.

02:33:03.000 Have you ever fought a guy where it was just bad, mad shit talking like it was like...

02:33:07.000 Out of control on Twitter and shit?

02:33:10.000 Yeah, I've had a couple beefs like that where we had multiple fights.

02:33:14.000 Me and Levin had three fights.

02:33:16.000 Me and I fought Simon Marcus.

02:33:18.000 You guys were on Twitter telling each other to fuck off and shit?

02:33:21.000 Not really.

02:33:22.000 I don't think Twitter.

02:33:23.000 It was more like interviews and back and forth.

02:33:24.000 MySpace.

02:33:25.000 The Levin one was weird because Levin pulled out of your fight and then he fought Simon Marcus after that and just stopped fighting at one point in time, right?

02:33:34.000 What happened in that fight?

02:33:37.000 With Simon and Levin?

02:33:38.000 I was there and I still don't know what happened.

02:33:41.000 I think he got a warning or something for holding.

02:33:48.000 I think he got an eight count.

02:33:50.000 I think they fell between the ropes and Levin didn't get back in the ring fast enough so they gave him a standing eight count and he got pissed.

02:33:59.000 But yeah, he just quit halfway through the fight.

02:34:01.000 Just walked out of the ring and quit.

02:34:03.000 And he hasn't really fought since, has he?

02:34:05.000 No, I don't think so.

02:34:06.000 You were saying that you didn't think that he wanted to fight anymore.

02:34:09.000 It was like one of those things like the reason why...

02:34:11.000 Yeah, I can't imagine anybody...

02:34:12.000 I lost like...

02:34:13.000 I had respect for him even though we had like...

02:34:15.000 It was like we're rivalry.

02:34:17.000 And then when he did that, I just...

02:34:18.000 You're like the champion and you're representing kickboxing and you're representing your country and you're representing all this like shit and you quit because the...

02:34:27.000 You know, you took your ball home and then gave up your world title.

02:34:30.000 It was ridiculous.

02:34:32.000 You know what I mean?

02:34:33.000 Yeah.

02:34:33.000 He got out of the ring defending his title and quit.

02:34:37.000 Yeah.

02:34:37.000 That was just weird to me.

02:34:38.000 You don't see that, you know?

02:34:42.000 It'd be interesting if Johnson talks shit here.

02:34:45.000 Well, I think he's calmed down because they just hugged each other, you know?

02:34:48.000 Let's hear what he's saying.

02:34:53.000 Pay me, baby, what's up?

02:34:56.000 Wow.

02:34:58.000 See, everybody's going WWE. Well, but pay me what's up.

02:35:02.000 Maybe if it's a contract.

02:35:03.000 Crank.

02:35:03.000 Bang.

02:35:05.000 Dude.

02:35:13.000 This is a beautiful combination.

02:35:15.000 Look at this.

02:35:15.000 Crank.

02:35:16.000 Bang.

02:35:19.000 Mm.

02:35:21.000 Don't make Nate Diaz get in shape now.

02:35:24.000 Is he a Division I wrestler as well?

02:35:25.000 Yeah, very good wrestler.

02:35:27.000 It's just weird how the referee lost his shoe.

02:35:28.000 Do you tie your shoes?

02:35:29.000 What's going on, buddy?

02:35:30.000 Those are Skechers, sir.

02:35:31.000 Have you ever lost your shoe in a scramble?

02:35:33.000 Those are Skechers.

02:35:35.000 Maybe they should be wearing wrestling shoes.

02:35:36.000 That's a great idea.

02:35:39.000 Chandler gave him a flat tire if you watch that back.

02:35:42.000 No one should...

02:35:43.000 He's wearing Skechers in a street fight.

02:35:45.000 You mean Poirier or Johnson?

02:35:47.000 I'm just kidding.

02:35:47.000 Oh, look at this.

02:35:49.000 Kaboosh!

02:35:50.000 Oh, beautiful.

02:35:50.000 How did he lose the shoe?

02:35:52.000 Where is it at?

02:35:53.000 He lost it.

02:35:54.000 Oh, right there.

02:35:55.000 Oh, that's a bad angle.

02:35:56.000 I think Chandler gave him a flat tire.

02:35:58.000 That's Dan.

02:35:59.000 You know what?

02:36:00.000 The shoe was probably too small because Dan's feet are so fucking big.

02:36:03.000 He probably didn't have any shoes that fit him because Dan Mergliato's a giant.

02:36:07.000 He's a giant man.

02:36:08.000 He's got like a size 18 shoe.

02:36:10.000 Couldn't find one at the mall.

02:36:11.000 He's a big boy.

02:36:12.000 Give me the 16. He looks like you should be wearing those New Bounce because they're extra wide foot.

02:36:16.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:36:17.000 People with really wide feet have those new balances, those weird old new balances.

02:36:20.000 Maybe he put the 16 on, but he said, I just won't tie them.

02:36:23.000 It's not going to be a problem.

02:36:24.000 I'll wear these.

02:36:24.000 It's not going to be an issue.

02:36:25.000 Like sandals.

02:36:26.000 I won't tie them.

02:36:27.000 Hey, you know that SAP function for the UFC, that SAP? Yes, for Spanish.

02:36:34.000 You can hear the Spanish commentary?

02:36:36.000 What if the UFC came to you and said, we want to add an option to listen to the Fight Companion?

02:36:42.000 See, the problem with that is then we would have to guarantee we're going to do it.

02:36:46.000 We don't always want to do it.

02:36:47.000 Yeah.

02:36:48.000 You know?

02:36:48.000 Like, sometimes we're out of town.

02:36:49.000 Like, the beautiful thing about The Fight Companion is, we're independent.

02:36:53.000 You know?

02:36:53.000 We get together, and we really would be doing this anyway.

02:36:56.000 What if they owed two billion dollars?

02:36:58.000 Okay.

02:36:59.000 Yeah, what do I got to do?

02:37:01.000 I want to hang out with Lorenzo in Italy.

02:37:03.000 I want to get a yacht and be like, what's up?

02:37:05.000 Is that the end?

02:37:07.000 Is that the yacht?

02:37:08.000 The yacht and the helicopter and the private jet, that's the last shit, right?

02:37:12.000 There's nothing over that.

02:37:14.000 No, islands.

02:37:15.000 Islands is the last thing.

02:37:16.000 Islands where you land your yacht or your helicopter.

02:37:18.000 Yeah, by the time you have an island, you already have a yacht and a helicopter.

02:37:23.000 And a jet.

02:37:24.000 Yachts, like...

02:37:25.000 You're a white belt at being a billionaire, right?

02:37:27.000 Yeah.

02:37:27.000 It's like, okay, you got a yacht.

02:37:28.000 That's cute.

02:37:29.000 Standard.

02:37:29.000 Yeah.

02:37:30.000 You know there's Uber boat.

02:37:32.000 So you're a billionaire starter kid.

02:37:34.000 Oh, dude, he got lit up.

02:37:36.000 God damn.

02:37:37.000 That was a ferocious stoppage.

02:37:40.000 That was ferocious.

02:37:41.000 What's the latest on jetpacks?

02:37:43.000 I mean, you've been doing that joke in 2000 about how...

02:37:46.000 Why the fuck?

02:37:47.000 Because they had jetpacks in the 70s.

02:37:49.000 That was in 2006. In the 70s.

02:37:51.000 They had jetpacks on chips.

02:37:53.000 I don't know if you're over 40, you might remember chips with Eric Estrada.

02:37:58.000 I love chips.

02:37:59.000 Yeah, they had fucking jetpacks back then.

02:38:02.000 You're telling me?

02:38:03.000 That was real?

02:38:04.000 That shit should be mastered.

02:38:05.000 Yes, they've had jetpacks.

02:38:06.000 You could...

02:38:08.000 I don't think they had jetpacks.

02:38:09.000 I don't think that was real.

02:38:11.000 I don't think that was real.

02:38:12.000 No, no, no, no, jetpack.

02:38:13.000 Hey, if they weren't real, I believe it.

02:38:16.000 Listen, I was in Denver with my boy Willie from KBPI in Denver.

02:38:23.000 Love Willie.

02:38:23.000 106.7.

02:38:25.000 And Willie took me into the parking lot.

02:38:27.000 They had a show that they did live from the parking lot where a dude flew a jetpack.

02:38:32.000 So jetpacks do exist, but the dude who flew it had two ACL braces on.

02:38:38.000 I go, what's up with the ACL braces?

02:38:40.000 He's like, dude, I fucking crashed this thing so many times.

02:38:42.000 I've torn my legs apart.

02:38:44.000 He goes, at this point, I'm not even going to bother getting them fixed.

02:38:47.000 Yeah, they have them.

02:38:48.000 But the one that this guy had, this guy, this is a much newer prototype.

02:38:54.000 With Willy and the gentleman who we saw, this was like 2000. Yeah, let's get some good looks at this.

02:39:01.000 So back then, they could only do it, he said they could only fly for 30 seconds.

02:39:06.000 So what would happen is he would go 15 seconds up, and then it would take about, he really wanted to go down.

02:39:12.000 He said, I'd like to land in about 5 seconds.

02:39:15.000 He's like, because I've needed a buffer at like 30 seconds, you're basically out of juice.

02:39:19.000 That's awesome.

02:39:20.000 Complete waste of time.

02:39:21.000 Hey!

02:39:22.000 But for now, see, the thing is, virtual reality- They've been working on that for 50 years, dude!

02:39:27.000 They've been working on this forever!

02:39:29.000 Virtual reality used to be a waste of time, too, until the computers and the technology caught up.

02:39:34.000 Now, they have virtual reality that'll freak you the fuck out, man.

02:39:38.000 There's a crazy virtual reality- Not the one you showed me.

02:39:40.000 No, no, no, no.

02:39:41.000 You never did it.

02:39:42.000 You never did it.

02:39:43.000 I didn't show you anything.

02:39:44.000 Yeah, you did.

02:39:44.000 No, I didn't.

02:39:45.000 No, I didn't.

02:39:45.000 What did you show me?

02:39:46.000 You never put a goggle on.

02:39:48.000 You never went to it.

02:39:49.000 No, I saw the graphics.

02:39:49.000 No, no, [...

02:39:51.000 You're seeing it in two dimensions.

02:39:52.000 It doesn't mean anything.

02:39:53.000 When you put that goggles on and you're looking around this world, even if the graphics aren't perfect, they freak you the fuck out.

02:40:00.000 Yeah, people get vertigo.

02:40:02.000 They get weird.

02:40:02.000 You're walking a wire in a canyon.

02:40:05.000 And you're like, holy shit, I'm scared of heights.

02:40:08.000 Even in this fucking...

02:40:10.000 I was in some hallway.

02:40:11.000 Well, there's a boxing one.

02:40:12.000 It's kind of like shit.

02:40:13.000 Really?

02:40:13.000 There's a boxing one, yeah.

02:40:14.000 Well, you box this guy.

02:40:15.000 It's weird because you hold these handles.

02:40:18.000 You got to hold them like this for your fist to look like this in the game.

02:40:22.000 It's very strange.

02:40:24.000 So, like, it looks like you're hitting the guy like this with your hands, but you're really doing this in the air.

02:40:28.000 So it's not 100% like boxing technique, but you could change that.

02:40:33.000 I mean, you could definitely change it to you're putting something in your hand and wherever position your hand is in, that's the position the gloves would be in, and then it would feel a lot more natural.

02:40:41.000 But it's very, this is what it looks like.

02:40:42.000 It's very rudimentary right now.

02:40:44.000 But, as far as, like, movement, and as far as, like, teaching someone how to avoid punches and counter, you don't feel anything when you hit them.

02:40:53.000 But you do have to move correctly in order to hit them.

02:40:58.000 What happens if you throw the right technique?

02:41:00.000 The punch just doesn't catch up with it?

02:41:01.000 What happens if you do throw?

02:41:03.000 It doesn't matter because it's not based on how the punch actually, what position the glove is when it lands.

02:41:08.000 It's based on whether the glove lands.

02:41:10.000 Wouldn't it be cool to do it with some kind of helmet that had electroids that connect to your brain where you could kind of feel when you get hit?

02:41:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:41:18.000 Get zapped.

02:41:19.000 Yeah, a little zap.

02:41:20.000 But then that kills you.

02:41:22.000 It turns out that that gives you Parkinson's quicker than actual...

02:41:27.000 Head trauma.

02:41:27.000 Well, here's what happened.

02:41:29.000 The dude in the video game caught me with a punch, and when they catch you, you see a flash.

02:41:34.000 That's kind of cool.

02:41:35.000 And it gives you the same feeling that happens when you get punched.

02:41:37.000 You're like, oh shit, I better move.

02:41:39.000 A white flash?

02:41:40.000 Yeah, but it gives you that, oh shit, we're in trouble.

02:41:42.000 That's pretty dope.

02:41:42.000 It gives you that same little weird endorphin rush if you get actually punched in the face.

02:41:47.000 It's very interesting.

02:41:49.000 Very interesting.

02:41:50.000 So what I'm thinking is, if someone develops a program where they take a guy like you, and Joe Schilling does his kickboxing techniques, and you literally...

02:42:01.000 I mean, it's going to have to be one or two more...

02:42:04.000 Like versions of this improvements, but it's gonna get to a point where it's virtual it's a point where it's super high resolution so they could hire a guy like you to throw kicks and punches and in a in a computer simulation where all of your different kicks and punches are all programmed in there along with like patterns that you might use and someone can actually practice fighting you without fighting you Like your opponents.

02:42:28.000 Yeah.

02:42:29.000 That's crazy.

02:42:29.000 Kind of nuts.

02:42:30.000 You would get used to seeing you across the cage.

02:42:34.000 That would be illegal to steal someone's fucking moves.

02:42:36.000 Can you imagine your trainer sold your fucking program to the enemy?

02:42:41.000 Imagine all of your training where you need a partner that you're doing.

02:42:46.000 You're basically doing eye training at that point.

02:42:48.000 A drill where you're doing actual real-time head movement.

02:42:52.000 If I could wear that shit.

02:42:53.000 You could, dude.

02:42:54.000 I'm telling you.

02:42:55.000 You really could.

02:42:55.000 Sitting on my couch, laying in bed, and I never do that shit all the time.

02:42:58.000 It's attached to a cord, so it would be weird for, like, spinning things.

02:43:01.000 It would be weird if you're trying to throw spinning elbows or spinning kicks or move too much.

02:43:06.000 You know, if you had too much footwork, you might get tangled up in this.

02:43:09.000 But how long before this motherfucker's wireless?

02:43:11.000 And once that thing's wireless, then you're just wearing a helmet, and you're basically in some Enter the Dragon room.

02:43:16.000 Because you set these things up, and where Duncan had it, he had it in his office, which is essentially like the same size as this room.

02:43:22.000 You got a camera up there, and a camera up there, and it makes a grid on the ground.

02:43:26.000 And that grid on the ground is the battlefield.

02:43:28.000 That grid is where you duke it out.

02:43:30.000 Like, there's an archery game, and that grid represents a castle, and these invading armies are coming, and you're shooting at them with bows and arrows.

02:43:37.000 Dude!

02:43:38.000 Dude!

02:43:39.000 It's already in a backpack, so it's off of big wires.

02:43:43.000 It's not fully wireless.

02:43:43.000 That bitch got some Xbox on her back.

02:43:45.000 That looks wireless to me.

02:43:47.000 Which version is this, Jamie?

02:43:49.000 It's the Vive.

02:43:50.000 It's the same thing you used, but the whole computer is on her back.

02:43:54.000 Is that an Alienware?

02:43:56.000 It's a company, MSI, I believe.

02:43:59.000 Are they for sale, Joe?

02:44:00.000 Yeah, you can buy them.

02:44:01.000 You buy them right now.

02:44:02.000 Duncan's house.

02:44:03.000 I thought maybe Duncan got like a prototype.

02:44:05.000 No, I mean for him to try it out.

02:44:07.000 Yeah, Eddie, you could try it out at Duncan's house.

02:44:08.000 No, you can buy them.

02:44:10.000 Yeah.

02:44:11.000 There's not a place where you can go, like an internet cafe where they had a bunch of these.

02:44:16.000 For now.

02:44:17.000 They put you in a room, eight bucks an hour.

02:44:20.000 It's going to knock yourself out.

02:44:22.000 It's going to happen.

02:44:22.000 I'm telling you this technology is going to change the fucking world.

02:44:26.000 There's no arcades anymore, right?

02:44:28.000 Yeah, there are arcades.

02:44:29.000 Let's try going to Castle Park.

02:44:31.000 I take my son there like every once or twice a week, Castle Park.

02:44:36.000 We were there today.

02:44:38.000 That shit's packed.

02:44:39.000 As long as there's kids, there's going to be video games and arcades.

02:44:44.000 Because on the weekends, and miniature golf, they don't even have to take care of the fucking miniature golf.

02:44:48.000 Well, miniature golf makes sense.

02:44:50.000 It's packed on the weekends, man.

02:44:51.000 And during the summer, you got kids, you want to take them to fun places.

02:44:55.000 Arcades are killing it, though.

02:44:57.000 There's arcades.

02:44:59.000 Those Dave and Busters are everywhere.

02:45:01.000 They're all across the country.

02:45:02.000 I take my kids to Dave and Busters constantly.

02:45:05.000 All kinds of crazy games.

02:45:06.000 Anything for kids.

02:45:07.000 I get the big blockbuster movies for kids all the goddamn time.

02:45:10.000 Everything's for kids and music for kids and fucking Britney Spears and Justin Bieber.

02:45:15.000 I get it.

02:45:16.000 You want to make your kids happy and all that bullshit.

02:45:20.000 They like that bullshit.

02:45:20.000 Britney Spears.

02:45:22.000 Nintendo Glove.

02:45:23.000 Gushers.

02:45:25.000 Britney Spears is not for little kids.

02:45:26.000 It's for, like, secretaries.

02:45:28.000 Neither is Beavers.

02:45:28.000 Yeah, neither is Beavers.

02:45:31.000 It's like horny secretaries.

02:45:32.000 Yeah.

02:45:33.000 Britney Spears.

02:45:34.000 Girls are just sitting there typing, thinking about dick.

02:45:37.000 Dude, you're going to be taking your kid to Toys R Us eventually, and just let him get on the bikes, and then he's just going to be riding his bike like The Shining and shit, and you just fall, and you take him there to ride the bikes, and then eventually one of the cashiers there, one out of three times,

02:45:53.000 will say, you can't just be riding these bikes.

02:45:54.000 You're riding bikes.

02:45:55.000 And he goes through The Shining, like all through every aisle around the whole giant Toys R Us in Burbank.

02:46:02.000 Well, I like seeing what...

02:46:03.000 I was just there with my son the other day at Baby's Toys R Us.

02:46:06.000 Now it's like one big-ass place.

02:46:08.000 The toys are very similar.

02:46:10.000 It's still Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, G.I. Joe's action figures, micro-machines, but they're really not micro, they're just regular now.

02:46:18.000 But same shit, really.

02:46:19.000 Dude, your kid's going to be on your phone going through your pictures and shit.

02:46:21.000 No, hell no.

02:46:22.000 No phones.

02:46:22.000 No, that's going to happen.

02:46:24.000 For sure it's going to happen.

02:46:25.000 You're going to be sitting with your kid and he's like, can I see a video?

02:46:28.000 You're going to be watching a video.

02:46:29.000 He's going to want to see it too.

02:46:30.000 What are you going to say?

02:46:31.000 No.

02:46:31.000 You're going to be sitting there.

02:46:32.000 You guys are going to be looking at videos together, music videos and shit on your phone.

02:46:36.000 He's going to have a Pokemon Go account on your phone.

02:46:39.000 He's going to have his own YouTube channel.

02:46:44.000 Nothing's easy, but having a business where kids come for entertainment, man, that's like...

02:46:50.000 Once you figure that out, that's forever.

02:46:53.000 There's a place called Dizzy B's in Valencia.

02:46:57.000 It's a giant place with these tubes and slides and the kids go nuts.

02:47:02.000 They're Billy B's.

02:47:03.000 Have you ever heard of Billy B's in Valencia?

02:47:05.000 Gigantic tube place, tube park.

02:47:08.000 It's fun for adults.

02:47:10.000 I go in there with my kid and we start sliding down.

02:47:11.000 It's awesome.

02:47:13.000 What are you showing us, Jamie?

02:47:13.000 Is that virtual reality?

02:47:14.000 No, this is Jetman Dubai.

02:47:17.000 These guys are flying on these self-propelled...

02:47:19.000 I think they have to leave from a plane.

02:47:21.000 Whoa!

02:47:21.000 But once they're in the air...

02:47:23.000 Look at that shit.

02:47:23.000 It's like a...

02:47:24.000 How long they go for?

02:47:25.000 Holy shit!

02:47:26.000 I don't know, I think they have gas of some kind.

02:47:27.000 Oh my god, that's so crazy.

02:47:29.000 Dude, that's amazing.

02:47:29.000 They said, fuck your 30 seconds.

02:47:30.000 I wonder how long that tank lasts for.

02:47:33.000 Holy shit!

02:47:34.000 These guys are human planes.

02:47:35.000 Those are birds.

02:47:37.000 Oh my god, that's insane.

02:47:38.000 Look at that thing.

02:47:39.000 Is that real?

02:47:40.000 That's not real.

02:47:41.000 That's real.

02:47:42.000 It looks fake.

02:47:43.000 No, it's fake.

02:47:44.000 It's a real video.

02:47:45.000 That's not like, in the future, this is what it's gonna look like.

02:47:48.000 No, no, no.

02:47:48.000 We're working on it.

02:47:49.000 We need like investment.

02:47:49.000 They're trying to invest in it.

02:47:51.000 If they show them right now, that's real.

02:47:52.000 No, Eddie, it's real.

02:47:53.000 This is 100% real.

02:47:54.000 I've already seen this.

02:47:56.000 Oh, you've seen it?

02:47:56.000 Yeah, this is real.

02:47:57.000 Dude, look how close they are to the jet engines.

02:47:59.000 So bad.

02:48:00.000 So dangerous.

02:48:01.000 What if it catches fire like a Samsung phone, just burns your dick 30,000 feet in the air.

02:48:05.000 It only catches your dick on fire, and then it goes out.

02:48:08.000 So your dick is gone.

02:48:11.000 That takes suicide bombing to the whole fucking level, right?

02:48:14.000 Can you imagine that shit?

02:48:15.000 I would just undo those straps, and I'd be like, we're done here.

02:48:17.000 We're done here.

02:48:18.000 We're just going to go 30,000 feet and out.

02:48:20.000 Fuck your flying squirrel suit.

02:48:21.000 Yeah, that's just not my way.

02:48:23.000 Didn't Red Bull have one?

02:48:24.000 Weren't they the first to do it?

02:48:25.000 But it wasn't jet propelled.

02:48:27.000 It was like a suit.

02:48:28.000 They still parachute though, right?

02:48:29.000 That's so crazy.

02:48:30.000 One false move and they're dead as fuck.

02:48:33.000 Yeah.

02:48:33.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:48:34.000 Camp Trails.

02:48:35.000 Look at that.

02:48:36.000 Yeah, they're chemtrailing the fuck out of Dubai.

02:48:38.000 Oh my god.

02:48:38.000 Yeah, my friend Andy, he does those wingsuits.

02:48:43.000 See, that's insane.

02:48:44.000 Which is even crazier because he doesn't even have an engine behind him.

02:48:47.000 Yeah.

02:48:47.000 And they're like right...

02:48:48.000 Have you ever seen him crash on one of those things?

02:48:51.000 Oh yeah.

02:48:52.000 I saw the video of one guy from a GoPro, like from his point of view where he hits the ground.

02:48:56.000 He just timed it shitty.

02:48:58.000 It'll fuck your night up.

02:48:59.000 He's going a hundred and something miles an hour too.

02:49:01.000 See the one where the guy hit the bridge?

02:49:03.000 No, no.

02:49:04.000 It's not good.

02:49:04.000 It's not hard.

02:49:05.000 You can't see the aftermath of it.

02:49:06.000 You can just see him hit.

02:49:07.000 There's people watching it.

02:49:08.000 It's not good.

02:49:09.000 Pull it up.

02:49:09.000 I'd love to see it, Jamie.

02:49:11.000 Let's end this fucker with that.

02:49:13.000 Let's end it with the guy running to the bridge.

02:49:16.000 What is it?

02:49:16.000 People love fucking thrills, man.

02:49:18.000 I mean, why do we like this Johnson Poirier fight?

02:49:21.000 Because we love thrills, right?

02:49:22.000 We love craziness.

02:49:23.000 Oh, Jesus!

02:49:25.000 People love watching things.

02:49:26.000 They love doing thrilling things.

02:49:28.000 Some people just have to go so far to get their dick card.

02:49:32.000 This guy dies?

02:49:33.000 He's coming in a gorge.

02:49:34.000 There's a bunch of people on a bridge.

02:49:35.000 He was trying to be a little bit of a hot dog, they said, and trying to go really closer than he was supposed to go.

02:49:41.000 One guy went under the bridge and one guy went over.

02:49:43.000 He's the guy that was going over.

02:49:44.000 I had a friend who was into this.

02:49:46.000 Hold on a second.

02:49:47.000 Boom!

02:49:49.000 Donski.

02:49:50.000 Oh my god, he just hit the bridge?

02:49:55.000 That sound is him hitting the bridge?

02:49:57.000 Hold on, play that back.

02:49:58.000 And see that other guy?

02:50:00.000 There's another guy that's behind him.

02:50:01.000 Play that sound again.

02:50:02.000 Hold on a second.

02:50:06.000 That's game over, son.

02:50:08.000 Whoa.

02:50:10.000 Play that one more time.

02:50:12.000 Listen to that sound.

02:50:13.000 Listen to the sound.

02:50:17.000 They knew before.

02:50:18.000 The guy said, oh shit, before.

02:50:20.000 I knew a guy who was training for this.

02:50:23.000 You gotta do so many skydiving jumps to do this.

02:50:26.000 And by the time he was qualified to do a base jump, so many of his group have died that he decided to back out.

02:50:36.000 It's like, too many people are dying.

02:50:37.000 These guys die all the goddamn time.

02:50:40.000 That's him hitting the wall and bouncing off.

02:50:42.000 One wrong move and you're dead.

02:50:44.000 It's over.

02:50:46.000 Oh, shit!

02:50:51.000 Fuck, man.

02:50:54.000 Holy shit.

02:50:55.000 God, we're just can't have any mistakes.

02:50:57.000 Oh, look what it did to the bar.

02:51:00.000 That's an efficient...

02:51:02.000 Oh, he...

02:51:04.000 Who's that?

02:51:05.000 That's something else.

02:51:06.000 You could go down a wound rabbit hole on YouTube.

02:51:11.000 When I was a kid, you had to work to get a copy of Faces of Death.

02:51:14.000 You had to actually go out.

02:51:16.000 You had to seek it.

02:51:16.000 You had to go to that weird area, the video store.

02:51:19.000 You had to hope somebody else hadn't rented it before you.

02:51:22.000 Any little fucking kid whose parents aren't paying attention can go on YouTube now and watch dudes bounce off of cliffs and buildings and get run over by trucks and car accidents.

02:51:33.000 If YouTube doesn't catch it, those things, they stay on for a while.

02:51:36.000 And fucking high school kids are probably the first to find those things.

02:51:39.000 You got a smart little fucker.

02:51:40.000 He's on that underweb looking at all sorts of shit.

02:51:43.000 God, man.

02:51:44.000 What the input to someone's mind.

02:51:47.000 Is that real?

02:51:47.000 The underweb?

02:51:47.000 Dark web.

02:51:48.000 That seems like such a trap.

02:51:52.000 Like, yeah, it's an underweb.

02:51:54.000 You could do all sorts of crazy shit.

02:51:57.000 Yeah, but it just seems like it's a trap.

02:51:59.000 A trap.

02:52:00.000 Well, you can't do all sorts of crazy shit.

02:52:02.000 They've arrested people.

02:52:03.000 Exactly.

02:52:03.000 The guy who created that website...

02:52:06.000 What was the website?

02:52:07.000 Silk Road.

02:52:08.000 Silk Road, yeah.

02:52:09.000 He's actually in jail for life.

02:52:11.000 For facilities.

02:52:12.000 He's out?

02:52:13.000 No, I was just saying he's not out.

02:52:14.000 There's a pretty interesting...

02:52:15.000 I don't know if it's a documentary is the way you want to word it, but on Viceland's show, I think it's...

02:52:20.000 I can't remember the name of it, but they take a guy onto the dark web.

02:52:23.000 They show you, like, this is going on a website.

02:52:25.000 Here's the eBay.

02:52:26.000 Here's how you buy stuff with Bitcoin.

02:52:28.000 Oh, look, there's heroin.

02:52:30.000 How do you trade my cash for Bitcoin?

02:52:31.000 I wonder if that's been tightened up because of the trial.

02:52:35.000 The trial was really crazy because it turns out that the DEA agents, the people who are investigating them, wind up stealing the Bitcoin money.

02:52:41.000 So the investigating guys wound up stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars, and then the guy who created the whole thing still wound up going to jail.

02:52:49.000 So there was obviously some fuckery and shenanigans and real corruption going on.

02:52:54.000 And this dude's in jail for life.

02:52:56.000 He's in jail for life, but they said that...

02:52:59.000 See, I don't really know what he did, but I think they said that he was trying to get someone murdered.

02:53:05.000 That was one of the possibilities, right?

02:53:08.000 That someone had suggested...

02:53:11.000 They murder somebody and he was trying to set something up.

02:53:14.000 That makes sense.

02:53:14.000 You can't be ordering killings of people.

02:53:16.000 I just remember watching that movie that Alex Winter made.

02:53:19.000 He was in the deep web and you can learn a lot about it.

02:53:21.000 Yeah, he didn't believe it.

02:53:23.000 Alex didn't believe it.

02:53:24.000 It was an interesting documentary.

02:53:25.000 I watched the documentary before Alex came in.

02:53:27.000 He didn't believe it, but the reality is he doesn't know.

02:53:30.000 You don't really know what a guy did or didn't do unless you were there.

02:53:35.000 We know the cops were liars, though.

02:53:37.000 They were stealing money.

02:53:38.000 The very cops that were in charge of the case were stealing money From the account.

02:53:44.000 So the whole thing is so crazy.

02:53:45.000 Jamie, how do they still work?

02:53:50.000 How does that work?

02:53:51.000 Because anybody can be in.

02:53:54.000 There's no fucking meetings.

02:53:56.000 It's just a bunch of people online that are tired of bullshit.

02:53:59.000 I'm down with that.

02:54:00.000 Really, really smart people.

02:54:01.000 Yes, but how do you know it's not fake?

02:54:03.000 Like how come because they're all wearing masks?

02:54:04.000 How do you know people aren't putting fake?

02:54:06.000 How do you know the fake anonymous videos are the real ones?

02:54:09.000 Anybody can be there.

02:54:11.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:54:12.000 I mean, how would you?

02:54:12.000 I would have to talk to someone who's legitimately anonymous to get the full details.

02:54:17.000 It's still going strong and they're still fighting crime, right?

02:54:21.000 They definitely do.

02:54:22.000 They definitely catch people that have done fucked up shit.

02:54:24.000 Oh yeah.

02:54:24.000 What was the latest thing they've done?

02:54:25.000 Well, I remember one story about a girl who was throwing puppies in a river.

02:54:30.000 Remember that shit?

02:54:30.000 No, I don't.

02:54:31.000 And they found her and they doxxed her information.

02:54:33.000 Damn.

02:54:34.000 You know, they've done some things.

02:54:36.000 You know, they've closed down and hacked into databases and companies are doing shady shit.

02:54:41.000 What's going on here?

02:54:42.000 This isn't new, but Ari did a podcast with a couple guys that were in Anonymous, or they claim to be in Anonymous.

02:54:47.000 So if you want to find that out, you can check out SkepticTank79 and listen to Ari talk with a couple guys.

02:54:52.000 I'm just confused as how it's organized.

02:54:55.000 Excellent.

02:54:56.000 Is there an Anonymous, like an official, there's an official Twitter?

02:55:02.000 Like who runs that?

02:55:04.000 No, no, no.

02:55:04.000 There can't be, because then, like...

02:55:06.000 People would know who they are.

02:55:07.000 I gotta say before I forget, Ari Shafir's latest podcast is with Henry Rollins.

02:55:14.000 Not all those who wander are lost.

02:55:16.000 It's fucking amazing.

02:55:17.000 That Henry Rollins guy is crazy.

02:55:19.000 He's crazy.

02:55:20.000 He goes all over the world.

02:55:21.000 No, he's amazing.

02:55:22.000 That'd be amazing to have him.

02:55:23.000 I have a total newfound appreciation for him after listening to him on that podcast.

02:55:28.000 They told me his work ethic.

02:55:29.000 We work with the same guys for our live shows.

02:55:31.000 And they were telling us about Henry Rollins and his work ethic on the live shows.

02:55:34.000 It's insane, man.

02:55:35.000 I can only imagine.

02:55:36.000 He goes to these weird places.

02:55:38.000 He picks a spot in the world, travels there, and spends like a month there.

02:55:42.000 And just brings a typewriter, or rather a camera, and maybe a laptop.

02:55:48.000 And, you know, his clothes and shit.

02:55:49.000 And just lives with these people.

02:55:51.000 And just goes to like Kuala Lumpur.

02:55:53.000 Okay, let's try that place.

02:55:55.000 Goes by himself.

02:55:56.000 Goes and hangs out.

02:55:58.000 Takes photos during the day and at nighttime, writes stories about it.

02:56:01.000 You know, and he writes stories for a bunch of different publications.

02:56:03.000 I don't want to give away any more of it because it's just an awesome podcast.

02:56:06.000 Interesting dude.

02:56:07.000 Yeah.

02:56:08.000 Ari ran into him.

02:56:09.000 I think Ari was in Stockholm and he was doing stand-up and Henry Rollins was there doing something else and they met up.

02:56:16.000 Yeah, he's an interesting guy.

02:56:18.000 Talented guy.

02:56:19.000 I always thought he was very smart and interesting and very passionate about a lot of things, but hearing him on Ari's podcast gave me a whole different appreciation for him.

02:56:28.000 I feel like you guys would connect.

02:56:30.000 Maybe.

02:56:30.000 On certain things.

02:56:31.000 I think it'd be fun.

02:56:32.000 Maybe he'd hate me.

02:56:34.000 Or maybe you'd hate him.

02:56:35.000 I don't think so.

02:56:36.000 No, you guys be friends.

02:56:37.000 Yeah, I think listening to him on the Ari's podcast, I would find him completely fascinating.

02:56:42.000 I just really respect that completely off the beaten path choice of just deciding.

02:56:50.000 He goes to these places and he'll just go and, you know, hang out in Afghanistan.

02:56:54.000 He's kind of always been a guy who's done it his way, which I appreciate.

02:56:58.000 Yeah, I mean, he started off as a musician, and then now what he does is he writes, and he does, like, these spoken word things.

02:57:05.000 Apparently he's doing a run at Largo in December, so I might go down there and check that out.

02:57:09.000 Yeah, they say his live show's badass, and it sells out like a motherfucker.

02:57:12.000 Well, I mean, it's interesting.

02:57:15.000 He's kind of, like, kind of doing stand-up, but not, you know, he's really just telling stories about things, so he's not confined, which is, you know, a lot of people find...

02:57:25.000 Like, uh, podcast very freeing, because it's one of the few times that comics aren't confined to this constant need to be funny, like, all the time, like, over and over and over again.

02:57:35.000 Like, sometimes it shows that are just funny back and forth, funny back and forth, but you don't have to.

02:57:40.000 Like, sometimes there's a moment in a podcast where you just have to, you want to kind of explore something.

02:57:44.000 You can't really do that on stage, though.

02:57:46.000 A comic can't really do that on stage unless they do some sort of a weird, artsy, one-person show.

02:57:51.000 But a guy like Rollins, he doesn't have any defined pattern that his shows have to follow.

02:57:57.000 Yeah, he's not in a box.

02:57:58.000 He's not a comedian.

02:57:59.000 He can get up there and do...

02:58:00.000 I know he has his guitar.

02:58:02.000 He tells these epic stories from his life.

02:58:04.000 You're right, though.

02:58:05.000 He can do whatever he wants.

02:58:06.000 You're not going to that show going, make me laugh, clown.

02:58:08.000 I need to laugh in the first 10 or 15 minutes.

02:58:09.000 Go.

02:58:10.000 Go.

02:58:10.000 It's kind of interesting what you guys do with Fighter and the Kid, too.

02:58:13.000 It's because you're doing a podcast, but you do a podcast live.

02:58:16.000 And you're doing this podcast live, and it's kind of a comedy show, but it's kind of whatever the fuck you want it to be show.

02:58:21.000 You can kind of make your own sort of format of entertainment.

02:58:26.000 The live podcast format is a new form of entertainment in a way.

02:58:31.000 And I've only done a couple of them.

02:58:32.000 I did one of my own and a bunch of other people's ones.

02:58:36.000 And the thing, the interesting thing about it is, it's not the same thing when an audience is there.

02:58:41.000 When you're doing it live, it becomes way more of like, their attention span is taken into consideration much more.

02:58:47.000 Yeah, and Brian had the great idea to perform.

02:58:52.000 Like, it's a performance, you know, there's scripted parts, and it's broken up into segments.

02:58:57.000 When he decided to do it, I did my research and I went to some of the live podcasts.

02:59:01.000 I'm like, dude, these people are loyal fans, devoted, but this is boring, man.

02:59:05.000 It's just two guys on a mic talking.

02:59:07.000 There's not much to see.

02:59:08.000 And especially if you're in a comedy place, like if you're doing the store or you have to play improv where they're used to seeing big acts and people who entertain, you got to kind of do your thing, man.

02:59:18.000 You're not going to be able to just talk like buddies.

02:59:19.000 You got to have a plan.

02:59:20.000 Yeah, if you're doing a big venue, for sure.

02:59:22.000 Kevin Smith used to have this little theater in Hollywood.

02:59:27.000 And I did a podcast there with him.

02:59:30.000 I did one with Norton there.

02:59:31.000 I did my podcast there with Norton a long time ago.

02:59:34.000 And his theater only seats...

02:59:37.000 I don't think he has it anymore...

02:59:38.000 But it only seats like 40 people.

02:59:41.000 It's like this tiny little place.

02:59:43.000 It's essentially like an acting studio where people would take acting classes and then they'd come down to the stage and perform.

02:59:50.000 It was so intimate, it was bizarre.

02:59:53.000 What was this format?

02:59:54.000 Was it like a podcast?

02:59:55.000 Because then I don't think you have to put on a show as much.

02:59:57.000 Exactly.

02:59:58.000 Podcast, yeah.

02:59:59.000 But it's a podcast in front of a really small, super, super intimate crowd.

03:00:04.000 Like almost too intimate.

03:00:05.000 Like Wally George.

03:00:06.000 Remember that?

03:00:06.000 Wally George.

03:00:07.000 Remember Wally George?

03:00:08.000 I do, but I don't.

03:00:10.000 From the 80s.

03:00:11.000 Was he the guy with the weird hair?

03:00:12.000 Yes.

03:00:13.000 And he was on Late Night?

03:00:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:00:15.000 Oh, that's right.

03:00:16.000 He was the cable TV guy.

03:00:17.000 I was in the audience of one of his shows because they would cut to the audience.

03:00:19.000 He filmed in Anaheim.

03:00:21.000 There he is.

03:00:21.000 Wally George.

03:00:22.000 He filmed in Anaheim.

03:00:22.000 I gotta piss.

03:00:24.000 Oh.

03:00:25.000 Guys, keep this going without me, will you?

03:00:26.000 Keep this going without me, will you?

03:00:28.000 You don't remember Wally George.

03:00:29.000 You're too young for that, right?

03:00:30.000 I don't.

03:00:31.000 Wally George.

03:00:32.000 He's like an insane...

03:00:33.000 What's he from?

03:00:34.000 He had this...

03:00:36.000 I guess it was like you know that What's it called?

03:00:42.000 Free Access TV? Public Access.

03:00:44.000 Public Access TV show.

03:00:46.000 It was Channel 6 in Denver, Colorado.

03:00:49.000 And he filmed in Anaheim, and he was just...

03:00:53.000 His character was a total D-bag, but super Republican D-bag and yelled at people.

03:00:58.000 He was just over the goddamn top.

03:01:00.000 You're just doing it for ratings?

03:01:02.000 Hot Seat.

03:01:03.000 That's the name of it.

03:01:04.000 It was insane.

03:01:05.000 Do you still do your podcast, Eddie?

03:01:06.000 No, man.

03:01:07.000 You should stop doing it.

03:01:08.000 Yeah.

03:01:09.000 It's just...

03:01:12.000 Maybe I'll come back and do it.

03:01:13.000 Maybe I will.

03:01:14.000 But we did like 60 or 70 episodes, something like that.

03:01:17.000 I don't even remember.

03:01:18.000 I never go back and listen to them.

03:01:20.000 And I said enough shit.

03:01:22.000 I'm like, do I want to be a fucking host?

03:01:24.000 I don't want to be a host of shit.

03:01:25.000 Maybe I'll change my mind.

03:01:26.000 Maybe I will.

03:01:28.000 I don't want to be that guy who says same shit over and over again, because when you're running a show, you do.

03:01:35.000 You have to repeat that story because some people haven't heard it, and then the people who have heard it, your hardcore fans, are like, here he goes with that fucking show.

03:01:43.000 Depends on your guest, too, because did you have a partner, or was it just you?

03:01:46.000 Man, I'd have a room full of people.

03:01:48.000 I just invited five people at a time just to have this conversation, just like this.

03:01:51.000 I wanted four or five people to talk.

03:01:53.000 But after a while, I get sick of hearing myself tell the same goddamn story.

03:01:58.000 I think I've said enough.

03:01:59.000 I think I've said enough.

03:02:00.000 I mean, do I want to be a host of some shit?

03:02:03.000 I really don't feel like I want to be a host.

03:02:06.000 If you ever get the itch to do a podcast, you know you can always do this one.

03:02:09.000 You know?

03:02:10.000 You can always come on and do my podcast.

03:02:12.000 Well, no, no.

03:02:12.000 I'm not talking about being a guest.

03:02:14.000 I was asking about him doing his own show.

03:02:17.000 But I'm saying...

03:02:18.000 That's what I'm saying.

03:02:19.000 Like, if you just want to do it occasionally and just get the itch out, you know you've got an open invitation.

03:02:23.000 You know what?

03:02:23.000 I, uh...

03:02:24.000 Have you heard of that show Rockline?

03:02:27.000 It's been on for 30 years, Bob Coburn, KLOS, big, huge, like that Guns N' Roses, Kiss, like all the big, biggest rock legends would get on KLOS once a week.

03:02:36.000 It's called Rockline.

03:02:37.000 It's huge in LA. Well, Bob Coburn came down with some kind of cancer or whatever, and the show's on hiatus, and the producer of the show, he wants me to bring my podcast back, and He said, dude, let me put together something for you,

03:02:54.000 and I'm on the fence about it.

03:02:56.000 You know, if we do this, who knows?

03:02:58.000 Who knows who?

03:02:59.000 I don't know.

03:03:00.000 I don't know.

03:03:01.000 Listen, you're a fun guy to listen to, man.

03:03:02.000 Just do it.

03:03:03.000 It's not like you don't sign a contract or anything.

03:03:05.000 Just do it.

03:03:06.000 It'd have to be, just like you said, it'd have to be in a way where if I want to just do it on my pace, I don't want people like, oh, you've got to do four shows.

03:03:16.000 Well, you have a studio.

03:03:16.000 You have a studio, you know?

03:03:18.000 My studio actually sucks because it's a rehearsal studio and sometimes I'll have guests and there's a drummer that practices it.

03:03:25.000 I've done podcasts where the drummer just shredding for two hours.

03:03:28.000 Well, that's a problem.

03:03:29.000 I've done that.

03:03:29.000 It becomes a problem.

03:03:30.000 Well, you don't want it, Joe's right.

03:03:31.000 Same with the companions.

03:03:34.000 Let's say someone's like, oh, we want to take this on and pay you guys a jillion dollars.

03:03:38.000 It takes the fun out of it if it's work.

03:03:40.000 If we have to see each other once a week...

03:03:42.000 Just take that money, bitch.

03:03:43.000 Listen to me.

03:03:43.000 Well, a billion's different.

03:03:44.000 If I decided to try to do that just to test it out, maybe I'd take you up on your offer and...

03:03:51.000 Maybe, you know?

03:03:52.000 Who knows?

03:03:53.000 Maybe, you know?

03:03:55.000 Sounds like you don't know.

03:03:55.000 I don't know.

03:03:56.000 I'm on the fucking fence.

03:03:57.000 I don't know.

03:03:58.000 Yeah, man.

03:03:59.000 That's a good thing.

03:04:00.000 Listen, if you ever want to do it from here, like, one day, just for a goof, just bring it back one day for a goof.

03:04:07.000 You know, we could do it together.

03:04:08.000 I might do that.

03:04:09.000 I might do that.

03:04:10.000 I think that you should do whatever the fuck you want to do.

03:04:13.000 And you stop doing it for a reason.

03:04:15.000 Yeah.

03:04:15.000 You stop doing it because you're so overwhelmed with responsibilities, with family, with jiu-jitsu teaching, with running EBI. It's not a priority.

03:04:22.000 There's a lot going on.

03:04:23.000 Especially with that.

03:04:24.000 It's like, fuck, am I going to have a podcast, run EBI, run Tenth Planet, make music?

03:04:31.000 Am I still...

03:04:32.000 Fuck!

03:04:32.000 There's a lot going on.

03:04:33.000 There's too much.

03:04:34.000 And then I got my son there, and these are the most important years of his life, and I'm hanging out with him, and I'm trying to shut things off.

03:04:41.000 I'm really focusing on trying to just shut the world off.

03:04:45.000 Was your podcast making money?

03:04:47.000 No.

03:04:47.000 I never tried to even look for fucking sponsors, man.

03:04:51.000 I was just doing it on my own free time, just for the fun of it.

03:04:55.000 And I think I've said enough, man.

03:04:57.000 All the episodes are still up on YouTube.

03:05:00.000 I don't want to fucking repeat any other stories.

03:05:02.000 Even having sponsors is a fucking responsibility that you have to consider.

03:05:07.000 Because what if you have a sponsor that's not good?

03:05:09.000 What if you have a sponsor that rips people off or something where it goes wrong?

03:05:13.000 There was a sponsor that came to me that was like an Uber for nannies.

03:05:17.000 For people taking care of your kids.

03:05:18.000 That's a brilliant idea.

03:05:19.000 That's a great idea.

03:05:21.000 It's a terrible idea.

03:05:22.000 You don't even know this part.

03:05:23.000 What if they behave like Uber drivers?

03:05:25.000 You don't even know these fucking people.

03:05:29.000 I heard it for a second.

03:05:31.000 I go, no fucking way.

03:05:33.000 I was like, no fucking way.

03:05:35.000 But if they guaranteed that their babysitters run through a rigorous background check.

03:05:39.000 You've got to be careful of that stuff.

03:05:40.000 I've had this conversation with Joe before, too.

03:05:42.000 Certain sponsors, we've turned down, I won't say the name of the company, but Two mega sponsors, because Cal and I, A, don't believe in the product, B, our audience would be like, get the fuck out of here.

03:05:54.000 This isn't real.

03:05:54.000 You guys just do it for a paycheck.

03:05:56.000 So we turned them down.

03:05:57.000 We had one that was a suit company.

03:05:59.000 Soup or suit?

03:06:00.000 Suit.

03:06:01.000 And you would have to go get tailored, and they'd send the suit in the mail, like these world-class suits.

03:06:06.000 What's wrong with that?

03:06:07.000 Well, what's wrong with that is both mine and Cal's came in the mail, and they were just so shitty.

03:06:13.000 We're just like, we can't do this, man.

03:06:15.000 Because dude's gonna order suits, and then they come all shitty, and they're like, dude, this is, you know?

03:06:20.000 Can't have it.

03:06:20.000 Yeah, that ain't good.

03:06:21.000 You know how it goes.

03:06:22.000 Well, that's smart that you guys did that.

03:06:23.000 That's smart.

03:06:24.000 Because the last thing you want to do is disappoint your fans in a way like that, where you can avoid it.

03:06:29.000 You know, it's one thing if you get tricked.

03:06:31.000 But if you could avoid it, it's just hard because right now it's really opening up the market as far as people that are advertising on podcasts.

03:06:41.000 But they're not like mainstream names.

03:06:44.000 You don't hear like Chevrolet advertising on podcasts or Samsung.

03:06:48.000 Imagine if Samsung did.

03:06:50.000 Well, they should if you go back and listen to that shit on them.

03:06:53.000 Well, if they're smart, they would because there's no better platform for loyal listeners than a fucking podcast who's going to listen to Rogan Talk for whatever, six hours a week, nine hours a week.

03:07:03.000 They're dedicated, man.

03:07:05.000 There's nothing like it.

03:07:06.000 TV ain't shit.

03:07:08.000 A 30-second commercial ain't shit.

03:07:09.000 Do people want to fast-forward those?

03:07:10.000 No one's watching TV. I have 500 fucking channels.

03:07:13.000 I never watch TV. I watch TV. I watch TV. Sports.

03:07:16.000 No, no, no.

03:07:17.000 I watch Netflix.

03:07:18.000 I generally don't.

03:07:20.000 I'm always on my Apple TV. I'm always on Netflix.

03:07:23.000 Always on the Apple.

03:07:24.000 Always on Netflix.

03:07:25.000 The only time I watch regular TV is when The Ultimate Fighter comes on or something.

03:07:30.000 When I fast forward through football.

03:07:32.000 Podcasts, if they were smart, man, with your audience or someone like Dan Carlin or NPR, that's where it's at these days for advertisers.

03:07:40.000 Well, they will more and more.

03:07:40.000 They will more and more as they grow.

03:07:43.000 Dan Carlin told me he's in a weird position because he gets a fuckload of downloads, but he does his podcast so infrequently that the best model for him, as far as cash, is actually to do it through subscriptions.

03:07:54.000 So when you order it from iTunes, especially the older episodes, it costs $1.99.

03:07:58.000 That makes sense for him.

03:07:59.000 But let me tell you something, it is worth so much more than that.

03:08:02.000 Like his fucking podcasts, they're like a work of art.

03:08:05.000 Who?

03:08:06.000 Dan Carlin.

03:08:08.000 I'll send you a link to Hardcore History.

03:08:11.000 Wrath of the Khans, all about Genghis Khan and the Mongol Empire.

03:08:15.000 Dude!

03:08:15.000 If he was our history teacher, we would all be fucking so into history.

03:08:20.000 Love history.

03:08:20.000 He was on last week on my podcast.

03:08:23.000 He's such a dynamic guy.

03:08:25.000 We were just talking about him.

03:08:25.000 What's his name?

03:08:26.000 Dan Carlin.

03:08:28.000 I love that dude.

03:08:29.000 He's so awesome.

03:08:30.000 You guys opened the show with Flat Earth stuff?

03:08:33.000 No, no, no.

03:08:33.000 Who's that guy?

03:08:35.000 Not Dan Carlin.

03:08:36.000 He's too smart for that shit.

03:08:38.000 What's that?

03:08:38.000 Michael Shermer.

03:08:39.000 Yeah, Michael Shermer.

03:08:40.000 Dan Carlin would have slapped somebody if you brought that up, though.

03:08:43.000 Yeah, he's not really into Flat Earth.

03:08:44.000 But he's got such a deep knowledge of so much fucking history, and he prepares for months to get these things ready.

03:08:51.000 That's how it's different, right?

03:08:52.000 Like, a lot of podcasts...

03:08:54.000 Like you said on the show, you just turn on and you're having a conversation with your buddies.

03:08:59.000 Carlin has to fucking go balls deep into how he's going to articulate it, the plan, and there's start and finish, and it's history.

03:09:08.000 So it's not an opinion.

03:09:09.000 Well, we were talking about it, and I was like, you know, what we're doing is a podcast.

03:09:12.000 What you're doing is like an audio art piece.

03:09:15.000 It's like a work of art that's also historically accurate.

03:09:18.000 It's like an audio book.

03:09:19.000 Yeah.

03:09:20.000 It's way different.

03:09:21.000 You termed it an audio show.

03:09:23.000 Yeah, he's way more of a...

03:09:25.000 And now I use that.

03:09:26.000 Where does he get his...

03:09:28.000 Obviously he knows everything about Genghis Khan.

03:09:33.000 Where does he get his information from?

03:09:34.000 He gives you a bunch of different references that he uses from various history books.

03:09:38.000 And he also shows the discrepancies in the opinions.

03:09:41.000 How one person believed it was this, but another person...

03:09:43.000 So he gives you a balanced perspective too.

03:09:46.000 But then relays the undeniable facts...

03:09:49.000 So he tells you when there's some vagueness in history, which I really appreciate, too, because he's not dogmatic.

03:09:54.000 He doesn't have, like, one idea in his head of how things absolutely went down.

03:09:57.000 And he's just so entertaining, man, because he has a background in talk radio.

03:10:03.000 So he's just so good at being, like, a professional broadcaster.

03:10:07.000 And then the guy's a maniac when it comes to history.

03:10:10.000 So he does this.

03:10:11.000 He did this series on World War I. I had no idea how fucking crazy World War I was.

03:10:16.000 No idea how nuts it is.

03:10:17.000 I've heard that one.

03:10:19.000 Dude, they're all good.

03:10:20.000 Did you know that Hitler was actually a soldier in World War I? Did we talk about that?

03:10:25.000 And not only was he a soldier, but he was one of the most...

03:10:27.000 He got like hardcore, Purple Heart type shit from Germany.

03:10:31.000 He did the hardcore shit.

03:10:34.000 Is that true?

03:10:35.000 Hold on real quick.

03:10:36.000 He's dropping knowledge on Dan Carlin.

03:10:38.000 Where you at, Carlin?

03:10:41.000 You might have read that from one of those sites.

03:10:45.000 I mean, I've never heard that about Hitler.

03:10:48.000 I've heard that.

03:10:51.000 He's won serious awards.

03:10:55.000 He was a war hero.

03:10:57.000 That's why they got behind him, because he was so hardcore.

03:11:01.000 Eddie's right on this, I feel like.

03:11:03.000 What is his...

03:11:05.000 What does it say here?

03:11:06.000 Dude, he was doing...

03:11:07.000 Look at all the stuff.

03:11:07.000 Iron Cross.

03:11:08.000 The worst job, the most dangerous job was sending messages to the front line from headquarters to the front line.

03:11:14.000 That was the worst.

03:11:14.000 He volunteered for that.

03:11:15.000 He got hurt and he could have got discharged.

03:11:17.000 He was all fucked up.

03:11:18.000 He didn't want to get discharged.

03:11:20.000 He wanted to go back on the front line.

03:11:21.000 Super decorated, huh?

03:11:22.000 Yeah, he's super crazy.

03:11:23.000 Super crazy.

03:11:24.000 That's interesting.

03:11:25.000 Some would say gangster.

03:11:26.000 He didn't bring that up at all.

03:11:27.000 But that wasn't, you know, obviously if you're going to do a piece about World War I, Hitler doesn't play a big part unless you're going to continue with World War II and talk about his survival.

03:11:36.000 It's a good transition.

03:11:37.000 Yeah, I guess.

03:11:38.000 For World War II. If he does a World War II one, yeah, for sure.

03:11:41.000 I did not know that.

03:11:42.000 That's interesting.

03:11:43.000 That's interesting.

03:11:43.000 There's a lot of shit about World War II that, fuck, man, that I didn't know.

03:11:48.000 It's fascinating shit how World War II connects to JFK, how that all comes together.

03:11:54.000 Fuck, it's gnarly shit.

03:11:56.000 It's way better than fucking Game of Thrones.

03:12:00.000 Way better, because it's real, because it actually really happened.

03:12:02.000 To find out exactly, because what you get in high schools, you get...

03:12:07.000 Basic Jack and Jill versions of what the fuck happened.

03:12:10.000 You don't get down.

03:12:11.000 Oh, this guy was shot and then the world went to war.

03:12:14.000 Fernadan, whatever, and Hungary.

03:12:16.000 There's so much crazy shit involved.

03:12:19.000 It really is like some kind of miniseries.

03:12:23.000 You want to get into World War II and JFK? A lot of movies on World War II. That's an eight-season miniseries.

03:12:29.000 It's so complex.

03:12:30.000 There's so many players.

03:12:31.000 Jeez.

03:12:32.000 Bro, if Callan was here right now, he would drop some knowledge on us about it that he remembers.

03:12:38.000 Does he remember a lot about World War II? Is he a World War II buff?

03:12:40.000 I don't think so.

03:12:41.000 He loves history, though.

03:12:42.000 So he'll drop it even if he doesn't know.

03:12:46.000 That's what we do.

03:12:48.000 Just drop things.

03:12:50.000 There's a moment in history where you go back and look at it and things will never be the same.

03:12:57.000 Now, Arthur Wright once wrote...

03:12:59.000 It's the author and I don't know.

03:13:01.000 It does not matter.

03:13:02.000 Time had Adolf Hitler as man of the year one year.

03:13:05.000 I did know that.

03:13:06.000 Did you know that?

03:13:06.000 Seems like a mistake.

03:13:07.000 They also had Key and Peele.

03:13:08.000 Isn't that the weirdest shit ever?

03:13:10.000 Yes!

03:13:10.000 Wait a minute, what?

03:13:11.000 Really?

03:13:12.000 He was man of the year for Time Magazine.

03:13:15.000 Yeah, but that's not man of the year.

03:13:16.000 Nah, still dope though.

03:13:17.000 Before they turned, before everything went wrong.

03:13:20.000 But at first, United States was totally into Adolf Hitler.

03:13:24.000 They were into him.

03:13:25.000 Eddie is dropping some serious world war 2 knowledge on your ass.

03:13:28.000 Now, was Hitler or was Hitler not a vegetarian?

03:13:31.000 I don't know.

03:13:32.000 I'd go with no.

03:13:32.000 I think that was a rumor, that Hitler was a vegetarian.

03:13:35.000 He also did a shitload of drugs, correct?

03:13:37.000 Might have been...

03:13:38.000 I think he was on meth, right?

03:13:41.000 I heard meth.

03:13:42.000 You know, he was an architect in all the major buildings and all the...

03:13:46.000 In Germany, he designed them.

03:13:48.000 He was into designing not only the buildings, but you know those giant Nazi parades with all the giant crazy shit.

03:13:55.000 He choreographed and designed all that shit.

03:13:58.000 There's a documentary called The Architect of Doom.

03:14:01.000 It's about Adolf Hitler.

03:14:03.000 That's why he started hating the Jews, because he was trying to get into this art academy that was run by Jews, and they denied him.

03:14:10.000 Bro, do a World War II podcast!

03:14:13.000 There you go.

03:14:13.000 Dude, I'm a white belt with that shit.

03:14:14.000 Eddie in World War II. You guys just haven't even walked into the gym, that's all.

03:14:18.000 I'm a white belt.

03:14:19.000 It says that prior to 1937 he ate meat.

03:14:26.000 And then after 37 on, towards the end of his life, he started becoming vegetarian.

03:14:30.000 That's why he became evil.

03:14:31.000 He got crazy.

03:14:32.000 Apparently he had chronic flatulence.

03:14:34.000 That's another thing I heard.

03:14:35.000 He just farted nuts up.

03:14:35.000 Dude, they tried to smear him, yes, and he sucked boys' dicks too.

03:14:39.000 He always farted.

03:14:40.000 Terrible, terrible man.

03:14:42.000 Vegan farting on meth.

03:14:44.000 Can you imagine that and bring that up?

03:14:46.000 Yeah.

03:14:47.000 How many leaders had fart problems?

03:14:48.000 They probably, like, 80% of leaders probably had fart problems.

03:14:51.000 They're drinking scotch all fucking night.

03:14:53.000 Well, the meth thing is crazy because apparently, like, a lot of world leaders were on speed back then, right?

03:14:59.000 Like, that was a big issue.

03:15:00.000 Now, one of the things about Hillary Clinton that popped up was that she was on, I think it was Pro Vigil or New Vigil.

03:15:06.000 Pro Vigil.

03:15:08.000 Pro Vigil is like that stimulant that fighter pilots use to stay awake.

03:15:14.000 It keeps you on point.

03:15:15.000 It's illegal in the Olympics now because it's some sort of a performance enhancer.

03:15:20.000 So she's supposedly on that show?

03:15:21.000 Well, she's on that, right?

03:15:22.000 It's supposed to be like the limitless pill.

03:15:24.000 Who said that?

03:15:24.000 How would they find that out?

03:15:24.000 This is why I'm bringing this up.

03:15:27.000 This lady was telling me that her friend's husband is on Adderall.

03:15:32.000 She was going off about Adderall.

03:15:33.000 She's like, my friend's husband's on Adderall.

03:15:34.000 He takes it every day.

03:15:36.000 It takes every day.

03:15:37.000 It takes an Adderall.

03:15:37.000 Like he says he needs it to keep up the pace of the day.

03:15:40.000 Like that is meth.

03:15:42.000 Yes.

03:15:42.000 Like they've proven that it's like the same as meth.

03:15:45.000 It's like you're taking a controlled dose of meth every day.

03:15:48.000 How many people are out there just taking meth?

03:15:51.000 You watch Breaking Bad?

03:15:52.000 A lot.

03:15:53.000 Yeah, but that's meth meth.

03:15:54.000 How many people are out there taking Adderall?

03:15:56.000 That's meth meth.

03:15:56.000 Jamie, pull up how many people are on Adderall.

03:16:00.000 Say, how many prescriptions of Adderall per year?

03:16:03.000 That fighter pilot drug's called what?

03:16:05.000 Let's take a guess real quick.

03:16:07.000 Let's take a guess.

03:16:08.000 On Adderall?

03:16:08.000 Yeah, how many people are on Adderall?

03:16:10.000 How many prescriptions?

03:16:11.000 Because that's all you really know, how many prescriptions are written.

03:16:13.000 I don't know what that means as far as people.

03:16:15.000 But I think...

03:16:16.000 10%?

03:16:18.000 How many million?

03:16:19.000 Give me a million.

03:16:20.000 How many prescriptions?

03:16:21.000 300 million.

03:16:23.000 Dude, I think there's 300 million people on the stage.

03:16:26.000 It's 3 million.

03:16:28.000 3 million.

03:16:29.000 3 million people on Adderall?

03:16:29.000 Or 1.7.

03:16:31.000 I'm going to go 6 million.

03:16:32.000 6 million people on Adderall.

03:16:33.000 There's way more than 6 million.

03:16:36.000 Well, let's find out.

03:16:37.000 Jamie, how many prescriptions in 2015 for Adderall?

03:16:40.000 I'm looking right now.

03:16:41.000 Dude, think about that.

03:16:43.000 The prescription drugs, how legal they are, how destructive they are, how dangerous they are, and they're totally legal.

03:16:50.000 And everyone just sits there and is like, oh, everything's fine.

03:16:56.000 I just believe everything they fucking tell me.

03:16:58.000 Did you see Arizona?

03:16:59.000 That's the craziest shit ever!

03:17:01.000 Right there!

03:17:02.000 Do you see in Arizona they're trying to legalize weed and the number one funder to go against the legalization of weed is from the company that makes that fucking crazy pain drug that's many times stronger than OxyContin, Fentanyl or something like that.

03:17:16.000 The shit that they think killed Prince.

03:17:19.000 Fuck, man.

03:17:21.000 The shit that killed Prince, that's something that Joey would say.

03:17:23.000 But it is the shit that killed Prince.

03:17:25.000 They said it was $500,000 this company donated in Arizona to try to stop this campaign to legalize weed.

03:17:33.000 That should be a fucking felony.

03:17:36.000 Anything that can be considered a crime on humanity, if you can prove that, that should be a fucking felony.

03:17:45.000 You can't just do that shit.

03:17:47.000 That's a crime.

03:17:49.000 People are fucking dying and getting crazy off these prescription drugs, and no one says shit.

03:17:55.000 Look at tobacco.

03:17:56.000 Nobody says shit.

03:17:58.000 Look at alcohol.

03:17:59.000 No one says shit.

03:18:00.000 Thank God.

03:18:01.000 But, damn...

03:18:03.000 And with that note, we've got to get out of here.

03:18:06.000 I've got to do a spot at the store, so I've got to wrap this bitch up and bring it home.

03:18:10.000 But fun times, boys.

03:18:12.000 Fun times.

03:18:12.000 As always.

03:18:12.000 Finding the Kid Live, San Jose Thursday, and then Brea and Oxnard in October, son.

03:18:17.000 Where's the schedule?

03:18:18.000 TFATK.com.

03:18:20.000 TFATK.com.

03:18:21.000 Man, I really think you should come up with a better name.

03:18:23.000 Look at that.

03:18:24.000 16 mil, son.

03:18:25.000 I'll be in 10th Planet, Decatur, Alabama this Saturday.

03:18:29.000 10th Planet, Decatur, Alabama this Saturday.

03:18:32.000 We found, Jamie found something, 16 million prescriptions.

03:18:36.000 That was in 1999. In 99. Okay, it's way more.

03:18:39.000 Way more now.

03:18:40.000 Way more now.

03:18:41.000 And that's fine.

03:18:41.000 Three million, I have to laugh at that, gentlemen.

03:18:43.000 But I was, how many people are using those 16 million prescriptions?

03:18:47.000 Like, how many prescriptions?

03:18:48.000 Like, how long does a prescription last?

03:18:49.000 Do you get one every three months?

03:18:51.000 You know, does that mean that a person gets four prescriptions a year, so you divide that by four?

03:18:55.000 No, it's...

03:18:56.000 Is that how it goes?

03:18:57.000 I think you get it every 30 days.

03:18:59.000 You don't do it every day either.

03:19:00.000 It's every 30 days, right?

03:19:01.000 You're not supposed to take it when you need them, I think, when you get prescribed.

03:19:03.000 Hold on, son.

03:19:04.000 Just stop the nonsense.

03:19:05.000 If you're hooked on Adderall, you're taking that shit every day.

03:19:07.000 Yeah, but the doctor's not giving them to you to use it every day.

03:19:09.000 Sure they are.

03:19:09.000 Yeah, no, I was on Adderall when I was in high school.

03:19:12.000 Yeah, no, you get it for every day.

03:19:13.000 It's like Ritalin.

03:19:14.000 Yeah.

03:19:14.000 I know a guy who has an Adderall patch.

03:19:16.000 He had a patch.

03:19:17.000 Adderall patch?

03:19:18.000 No, it was a Ritalin patch.

03:19:19.000 It was a Ritalin patch that they gave him.

03:19:20.000 Prozac patch?

03:19:21.000 He's on another level.

03:19:23.000 No, it was a patch.

03:19:24.000 It was a patch.

03:19:24.000 They gave him a patch.

03:19:26.000 It was some sort of either Prozac or Ritalin.

03:19:29.000 But he was on Adderall as well.

03:19:30.000 He tried a bunch of different things.

03:19:32.000 But he was on Adderall.

03:19:32.000 Was he cool?

03:19:33.000 Every day.

03:19:34.000 Very cool.

03:19:34.000 But he was struggling with fatigue issues.

03:19:37.000 He's not a vibrant guy.

03:19:40.000 Taking a lot of naps during the day?

03:19:42.000 I don't know.

03:19:42.000 I don't think he did.

03:19:43.000 He hustles.

03:19:44.000 He works.

03:19:44.000 But I think he was having some problems.

03:19:46.000 Successful dude.

03:19:47.000 Yeah.

03:19:48.000 Yeah.

03:19:48.000 Real successful dude.

03:19:49.000 Good dad.

03:19:49.000 Yeah.

03:19:49.000 Great guy.

03:19:51.000 Sweet kisser.

03:19:52.000 He drives a Prius.

03:19:54.000 No, he doesn't.

03:19:55.000 It's a Tesla.

03:19:56.000 But he was on it every day, Jamie.

03:19:58.000 They do prescribe it for some people every day.

03:20:00.000 Okay.

03:20:00.000 I wasn't saying that they don't prescribe.

03:20:03.000 I thought they didn't prescribe it every day.

03:20:04.000 I think it's a refill every 30. No, I think there's a lot of people that take it every day.

03:20:09.000 Yeah, that's why I'm saying a refill every 30. Because they're not going to give you fucking 120 pills.

03:20:13.000 No, I think they do.

03:20:15.000 I think they do, and I think if you take one a day, like, that's how they...

03:20:18.000 I think they can do it.

03:20:20.000 I don't think it's thought of as being, like, the danger that it is.

03:20:23.000 Fucking idiots.

03:20:23.000 Or at least most people, like you or I, they think it's going to help you, but kids are snorting that shit and taking classes.

03:20:31.000 For reals.

03:20:31.000 Like, for tests.

03:20:32.000 I know people abuse it.

03:20:33.000 I wasn't saying that.

03:20:33.000 Yeah.

03:20:34.000 Have you ever taken it?

03:20:35.000 I take it?

03:20:35.000 No, I've never taken it.

03:20:36.000 I get nothing done.

03:20:36.000 I will chat your fucking air off.

03:20:40.000 Nothing done.

03:20:41.000 Real chatty Cathy on that shit.

03:20:43.000 I did it once in college.

03:20:44.000 I mean, I got nothing done.

03:20:46.000 That's hilarious.

03:20:46.000 Someone coming in like, what are you doing?

03:20:47.000 Hey, where are you going?

03:20:48.000 Just fucking going off, man.

03:20:50.000 Oh my god.

03:20:51.000 Bad idea.

03:20:52.000 Well, that's it.

03:20:54.000 Joe Schilling, JoeSchilling187 on Twitter.

03:20:58.000 Joe underscore Schilling on Instagram, correct?

03:21:01.000 Yes, sir.

03:21:01.000 Dude, I'm on the ball.

03:21:02.000 Boom.

03:21:03.000 I'm on the ball.

03:21:04.000 He's on the ball.

03:21:04.000 Brendan Schaub, don't call him Brandon.

03:21:06.000 I'm sorry about that, by the way.

03:21:08.000 I'm sorry about that.

03:21:09.000 I know I fuck up, but...

03:21:10.000 That's a hard one.

03:21:12.000 We hope everybody in New York's okay, Brian Cowell's okay, and appreciate the fuck out of you people.

03:21:18.000 Next one we can do with these.

03:21:19.000 We'll do it.

03:21:20.000 Is there one next week?

03:21:21.000 Is there one next week?

03:21:23.000 When's the cyborg fight?

03:21:25.000 Is that the cyborg fight?

03:21:26.000 Is cyborg wearing a bitch next week?

03:21:28.000 We gotta do one for that.

03:21:29.000 Who won the Canelo fight?

03:21:30.000 Did we miss that?

03:21:31.000 Spoiler alert!

03:21:36.000 Canelo fight tonight?

03:21:37.000 Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience - September 18, 2016

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