Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - September 2, 2017
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2 hours and 54 minutes
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196.22815
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129
Summary
Brenden and Joe talk about the latest fires in California, UFC Rotterdam, and the UFC Fight Night card. Also, the guys talk about Leon Edwards and how he's doing in his new job as a jiu-jitsu teacher. They also discuss the recent fire in Los Angeles County and how it's affecting the surrounding areas. The guys also talk about how much they're in love with Brian Callen and the fact that he's in trouble with his dad. And of course, they talk about Eddie Bravo and his jiu jitsu training. Also, Joe talks about the UFC and how much he's getting paid to be a UFC ref. Finally, they discuss the latest fire in California and how the firefighters are dealing with it and what they're doing to try and save the lives of the people in the area. Thanks to everyone for all your support, stay safe Fire Family and Stay DTFF! -The Fight Companion Podcast -Brenden & Joe Rogan Thank you so much for all the support and stay safe out there Fire Family, Stay safe Out There Fire Family! Love ya, Fire Family. -Joe Rogan & Brendan Don t forget to Like, Share, Share and Retweet us on Insta: and stay Safe Out There! Thanks for listening and Share the Fight Life, Love, Blessings, Cheers, Joe and Blessings! Cheers! XOXO, Joe & Brenden & Cheers -Bryan & Joe - Brendan & Jake <3 -PSYCHEddie & Joe R. "The Fight Co" - The Fight Companion - & the Fight Companion Lite -AJ & the Fire Crew . . -Jake & the rest of the Fight Club -Jon & the crew at FightLife Crew -Chad & the Crew at The Fight Club - The Fight Team -and so much more! -and much more - and much more!! (Thank you for supporting the Fight Coachella - Thank you for listening to The FightLife Podcast! -JOSH & The Fight Co! . and so much love, Jake and the FightLife! - - Jake & The Crew at Fight Life -so much love & Blessings - so much More! - Thank You, Jake & the team at FightCoast
Transcript
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It's Brendan Schaub and Joe Rogan, and this is the Fight Companion Lite.
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Eddie Bravo is doing a jiu-jitsu seminar today in, I think, in Whittier.
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And he acts like he enjoys it just to entertain his papa.
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I think he kind of likes it, but, you know, he can't golf.
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He probably just likes hanging out with his dad.
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I mean, chicks pretend to be into football so they can hang out with you.
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So Brian Barbarina and who's the other gentleman?
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Damn, this UFC Rotterdam reminds me of UFC 100. This thing is epic.
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Yeah, it's about as good a shape as you can get to be a ref.
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Brian Barberin is the dude who choked out Sage Northcutt.
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God, there's not a lot of Leons left in the world, is there?
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Because I woke up and my slingshot was all covered in ash.
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It's already the biggest fire in the history of California.
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It's the biggest fire ever in Los Angeles County.
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I think it's burned something like 5,000 acres already.
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And are people evacuating their homes and shit or not?
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Coming home, looking over the highway when you see the hills on fire.
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No, no, it's not close to me, but I can see it from some spots.
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He goes, it's just a matter of time until one day.
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One day, oh, Brian Barber, you might get fucked here.
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He said, he goes, with the right combination of dry weather and the right wind.
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And he goes, once it hits the buildings, we won't be able to stop it.
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No, he was an older dude that was like super stoic.
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Yeah, it wasn't like some dork who likes to talk about shit.
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If he maintained back control there, like if he had some Marcel Garcia-style hooks, he might have got that.
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Back to that firefighter hating on our happiness.
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All he was saying was, he goes, there's only so much we can do when a fire gets out of control with strong wind and dry ground.
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This was right after, I don't know if you were around, California in 2002, I think?
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We were filming out in, like, north up on the 5. And as I was coming home, for a whole hour, on the right-hand side of the car, the hills were on fire.
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Yeah, no, but I'm just saying on the way home from like Tohon, you know, like Tohon Ranch, like out there.
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The whole right side of the highway was on fire for an hour.
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Like I've never seen anything like it in my life.
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And when I was talking, I mean, it was like Lord of the Rings type shit.
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I mean, everywhere to the right-hand side and everywhere you go, it was like snow foam with ash.
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Yeah, we saw this dude laid out with his sneaker off, and I was like, oh, no.
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He was just on the highway, but I think you know people panic both the driver and the fire Can you imagine could there be a worse way to go burned alive?
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The way season seven ends, you're going to be like, when the last episode's over and it goes to black, you're going to go, no!
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The new Narcos started and I just, I can't do it, man.
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I'm crushing hard on Game of Thrones, so I don't want to, like, cheat on and watch Narcos.
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My wife was like, too many people getting shot.
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I'm like, I don't want to, you know, like I said, I'm crushing hard on Game of Thrones.
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In season two, there's just way too much merkin.
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You know, if you look at the history books with...
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But you were rooting for him in Narcos 1. I was like, damn, I hope he gets out.
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How about when they blew up the federal building?
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He just blew up the plane and fucked everybody.
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And the new season's about the Cali cartel, right?
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I just feel bad that they're not going to keep Pablo Escobar around.
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Yeah, and he was losing money because the rats were fucking with the money.
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We're eating his money, like a million dollars a year.
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That's how rich you are when rats are fucking up your funds.
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Yeah, I'd fly him out there and just watch them attack each other and shit.
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Yeah, because his last name was Escobar and he's like apologizing for his dad.
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For sure, just fucking own it, make Pablo Escobar t-shirts and sell the shit out of him.
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Could you imagine if your dad was Pablo Escobar?
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The ref's out of shape, too, so he likes to get there early.
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I told you there's a travel advisory for Mexico.
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But they're only killing each other, you know what I'm saying?
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They're like, look at that, but I look Mexican, so I'm like, mmm.
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You get there, and it's like, Mr. Shub, we want to talk to you.
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We love Mexico, we love Mexicans, but they're too short.
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We're going to impregnate all these beautiful women with your perfect DNA. Yeah, I'm just like a stud horse.
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But you guys think I'm being tortured, but it's awesome.
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You're just getting pussy thrown at you in a slingshot.
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You guys think I'm being tortured, but it's awesome.
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It's just Viagra and different drugs that make you grow cum.
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It's a mixture of zinc, magnesium, and steroids.
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No, I make videos like being mad at America and Trump and shit, but you guys can tell I'm happy as fuck, but I'm jacked from all the steroids.
00:11:05.000
Yeah, and girls are like pulling on you, and you're like, stop, stop, stop.
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I gotta say, this wall is fucked up, and it's the reason why I'm stuck here.
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They're clawing at you, and you just roid it up.
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You see just a bunch of supplements in the back and healthy food.
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As you're on TV, the tip of your dick peeks up to the camera, and you gotta push it down.
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It's like you're framed in, like the nipples up, and Dick's like, uh-oh.
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Like the chestburster in Alien 1. Oh my god, it's ridiculous.
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All you see is like fucking painted red fingernails pulling on you.
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I'm telling you guys, they're not going to ease up on me either.
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And you're not going to make Mexico pay for this wall, Mr. Trump.
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It's like the opposite of when a Viking comes to town.
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They want to recruit their own Viking just to dick all the girls down.
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If you were that dude, like, the mountain, you know, that mountain guy from Game of Thrones?
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Have you seen him before he fucking took all the juice?
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Wow, Leon's got his back again, but this time you learn from his past mistake.
00:14:09.000
You know those dudes that can just train through nice toenails, bro?
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Isn't that weird that you can't grab the cage with your toes?
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That is a strange one, and they freak out about it.
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I feel like they see that more often than the hand grabs.
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Well, it depends on what kind of squeeze he's got.
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If he's got one of them Damien Maia squeezes, yeah.
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Are you talking game over with Damien Maia on your neck like that?
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I mean, literally, it's like torque and power at this point.
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Like, if a guy like Maya gets a hold of you, or Marcello, you know?
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Like, kind of under your chin, and you're in this position where he's got the body lock.
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Barbarina's smart, though, leaning on that one side.
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He's about to get out right now and turn around, watch.
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Controlled that right arm with that double wrist lock.
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You have to kind of be a bit of a meathead to really submit some of that.
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Matt Hughes got Hoist Gracie's arm in that fucking reverse double wrist lock arm bar.
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You'd have to surprise the shit out of somebody and some cranking power.
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Well, Matt Hughes has just got that crazy farmer gorilla strength.
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I asked Pat Milchick about it, because I didn't know, and I asked him.
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He was just saying how trains in Iowa, they're so far away, and if you wait for them, you're going to be there forever.
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So Matt was like, fuck this, and floored his truck.
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But the gravel, it didn't go like he thought it was going to take off, and that's how he got hit by the train.
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Yeah, well, probably because he's such a gorilla.
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There's Big John, there's Herb Dean, and then it falls off like a motherfucker.
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It's kind of like the light heavyweight division.
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Because Leon had his back twice, two rounds in a row.
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Leon came close to choking him, but didn't finish him.
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But there was that one time where Brian almost put him away.
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Hey, we got two super important things to talk about.
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People keep saying that John Jones, because of this drug test, he did a blood test and he tested negative.
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He passed the blood test, failed the urine test.
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But here's the thing, the blood test doesn't test for that stuff.
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The blood test, because they can talk about it because John has gone public with it.
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The blood test is not test for this t-ball stuff, whatever the fuck it's called.
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So they have two urine samples, and then the results of the urine sample, B, will be out soon.
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He said, with Toronto Ball, it's so old school.
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Like, if you're going to do that, you basically, whoever's giving it to them has their black belt in, uh, This is so crazy.
00:18:31.000
I thought that he was a guy who was fucking off and partying and got busted with some freak shit that's in some dick pills because they tested those dick pills.
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Here's two options when it comes to those dick pills.
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Those dick pills did have these steroids in them.
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Because if you just take them and you're getting steroids too.
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You're getting steroids and your dick is getting hard.
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But not enough where it's going to be a performance.
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That makes sense why you would test positive for this stuff.
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When I feel like the rest of people in the know are like, uh, not really.
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I never had to fucking turn towards dick pills.
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Well, he obviously had coke in his system, too.
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Because people that do coke, their dick doesn't work that good.
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And he was telling me about, because Brian loves those goddamn gas station dick pills.
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He's like, you'll get one, you get these raging hard-ons, you get another one, you feel like a homicidal maniac.
00:20:08.000
Well, now we know the urine test from A is positive because that's what tested for that substance in the urine.
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See, and then people that don't get that, you see, oh, but he passed the blood test.
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I saw his own doctor was posting that on Dr. Hightower.
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And I was like, well, this is not smart to say.
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Yeah, but with John, you got to listen to what...
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Chael had a good narrative on, I think, on MMA Hour with Ariel Hawane.
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He was just saying, that's such an old-school drug.
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Like, to be associated with that and despise for that.
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And he was like, you know, he said the same thing.
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Yeah, and so he was saying, that old-school drug, they're missing the good shit.
00:21:27.000
It's like, if you want a car, you're not gonna just get a fucking 64 Ferrari Daytona.
00:21:38.000
Yeah, you don't jump into the gainer's levels to this, for God's sakes.
00:21:47.000
Yeah, well, I'm sure you could talk to the Novitski.
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When I say going snitch, that's a complimentary term.
00:22:10.000
I think if there is, it's really old, but I'll start.
00:22:15.000
We've got to make sure we have fucking beer on here.
00:22:20.000
There was a funny picture that somebody put on Instagram, a meme of two giraffes going at it, and they're like, this is Struve.
00:22:45.000
Um, I think she was saying that she was having some, like, some head issues.
00:22:50.000
She's talking about it right now, or she's talking about what's going on right now?
00:22:53.000
I don't know, Jamie's in the other room, Vietnam's beer.
00:23:04.000
Crank this up so we can hear what she's talking about.
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He doesn't want to be light if he's going to fight Michael motherfucking Bisping.
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I don't think he's as big as the draw as everyone thinks, though.
00:23:36.000
Oh, he's zipping up his lip like he's not saying anything.
00:23:38.000
Well, maybe you should start talking, dude, because that's how you make money.
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The octagon goes back to Madison Square Garden!
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Imagine if I did commentary, but I said, I'm only doing it in an English accent.
00:23:55.000
Dude, if you wore a bowtie, I feel like people would revolt.
00:24:16.000
You got TJ Dillashaw, Cody Garbrandt, which is the best fight on the card.
00:25:05.000
It looks like Thompson and Masvidal is the first fight in the main card.
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T.J. Dillashaw and Cody Garbrandt's a big fight, man.
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It's not going to knock your hair back, but it's a fun fight.
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Garbrandt, Dillashaw, god damn, that's a tough one to pick.
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I just hate to see someone with a back injury rush it back.
00:25:38.000
He's a smart kid, and he's around good people, and he's been at the UFC facility.
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Remember, this was quite a while ago, and he even pushed it back even longer, and people were, like, talking shit to him, but I think it's very smart and calculated.
00:25:57.000
Dominic Cruz, Cody Garbrandt was December 30th.
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Especially being champ, you really don't have to rush back.
00:26:18.000
Yeah, because remember they're supposed to fight on that Vegas card.
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I know he was doing some of that Regenikine stuff to try to get better.
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Yeah, he went over there and got that treatment.
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And then TJ's doing a lot of his camp out here, and he's making things up.
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TJ's never slacked off from the time they were first supposed to be scheduled to fight.
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He's just in super shape, and he's getting better constantly.
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I think the big factor, one of the big factors is Cody's hands.
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TJ's fast too, but then Cody's fast with crazy power.
00:27:07.000
But I feel like TJ... See, Cody's takedown offense is really good.
00:27:13.000
But then TJ mixes it up so well in his footwork.
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But then Cody's footwork against Dominick Cruz was ridiculous.
00:27:21.000
I think TJ's going to be better than he was against Dominick Cruz, too.
00:27:24.000
You know, I think the Dominick Cruz fight, he was super emotional.
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And there was times in the fight where he was, like, loading up, looking for a big shot.
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Is Cody that damn good where he just outclassed Dominic Cruz?
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I think Dominic is a fantastic fighter, but he's had some foot issues too.
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He's had both knees operated on more than once.
00:28:02.000
He's had a torn groin muscle that fucked him up.
00:28:12.000
And now that Brian Stamm retired, I assume that he's going to work more.
00:28:17.000
So, you know, what's Cody and TJ doing while you're working for the UFC? I don't think you can do both and be as successful as you want to be.
00:28:27.000
I think Dominic's so damn good, and he's kind of, you know, he's so good where he can pull it off and still, you know, beat anyone in the world.
00:28:40.000
I don't think Conor could work with you on UFC pay-per-views and be Conor McGregor.
00:28:47.000
You know, I think the big factor in that fight...
00:29:21.000
Him and Kevin Lee have the most potential to be your next breakout superstars.
00:29:25.000
The thing about TJ, though, is TJ has more weapons.
00:29:30.000
Cody, although he does kick and does throw knees and does throw elbows, he's so good at boxing that you see him predominantly a boxing-oriented style.
00:29:47.000
He's like, he's more of a Swiss Army knife where fucking Cody Garbant's like a goddamn machete.
00:30:00.000
It's like, you know, Dominic Cruz set the blueprint, and then TJ Dillshaw downloaded it, brought it to the next level, and Cody Garber didn't even download that, brought it to the next level.
00:30:08.000
But can you say he brought it to the next level if Dominic beat him?
00:30:15.000
I think it was as close to a draw as a human can get.
00:30:17.000
I just, I don't understand those fights when, who the fuck knows, and you decide one guy's the champ and one guy's the loser.
00:30:26.000
It seems like, in a fight like that, that seems like a draw to me.
00:30:33.000
I mean, if anybody was going to get it, I'd get given the nod to Cruz, because he definitely seemed to get Cody to fight his fight more, and he connected with some good shots, but Jesus, it was so close.
00:30:51.000
If anything, you can do a draw and then just make them fight the next fight so there's a clear winner.
00:30:55.000
Dominic landed more clean shots on TJ, but TJ landed a lot of shit on him, too.
00:31:06.000
TJ, like you said, he got so emotional and was just headhunting for a while there, which is where I thought Dominic started to win rounds.
00:31:14.000
Me too, but from what I remember, I watched it twice, maybe three times before that.
00:31:19.000
I remember being surprised that TJ didn't try to finish him with leg kicks, because Dominic was wobbling so bad.
00:31:31.000
He was saying after the fight that that's what it was.
00:31:39.000
It's because he came back after a long time off because of the surgeries.
00:31:42.000
And once he got in shape, he had to make up some lost time.
00:31:51.000
Bro, I had it for my camp against Mitrion because, again, I love to run.
00:32:00.000
I'd get up and it would take me 15 minutes just to kind of make my way to the toilet.
00:32:12.000
Today I got, you know, those shits that you get like, you get about 30 seconds notice.
00:33:05.000
You're supposed to control the position better.
00:33:17.000
When you control someone from a triangle, do you hook the leg like this?
00:33:22.000
Do you scoop it around on the outside, or do you go underneath?
00:33:42.000
Especially when punches are flying or you're on the key to the battlefield.
00:33:47.000
So many people have so many opinions on hand positions and chokes and stuff.
00:34:04.000
Yeah, his instructor, Jamie Seagafy, Ben Rothwell's jiu-jitsu instructor.
00:34:13.000
Apparently this choke that this guy's got is just phenomenal.
00:34:34.000
Can you tell your boy to go and snitch just relax a little bit?
00:34:41.000
Luis Claudio apparently is the master of that shit.
00:34:43.000
Yeah, no shit, and they showed the big maze choking bitches out.
00:34:46.000
He showed a lot of people that choke, and they're like, what the fuck?
00:34:50.000
Yeah, I guess it's just somehow or another the way he's holding it.
00:34:57.000
It's like people just develop the finest application of one technique.
00:35:17.000
And you see when he got him, Josh was like, what the fuck?
00:35:26.000
In a lot of ways, those kind of old-school chokes, that's a lot of shit that Josh Barnett's into, right?
00:35:44.000
And I said, do you think Brock's going to come back?
00:35:46.000
And he goes, he was going to until John Piss hot.
00:36:00.000
You thought the fire's coming in and fucked your Saturday up?
00:36:22.000
Whoever that meathead is that gave that shit to Jon Jones has got to be on suicide watch right now.
00:36:32.000
He's probably going, I fucking warned him, bro.
00:36:36.000
We should get a team together like Navy SEAL Team 6 and just go fuck him up.
00:36:50.000
Maybe they're testing over and over again with the blood test.
00:37:06.000
If not, we'll do it before, but I'm going to have him on soon.
00:37:09.000
Kind of delayed, though, until that test comes out so we get the real fucking info, you know what I'm saying?
00:37:15.000
It's so depressing to me because it felt like John returning the way he did, that's like a superstar victory.
00:37:22.000
He handled himself with class and dignity after it was over.
00:37:27.000
And then to go from that to pissing hot, you're like, oh, no.
00:37:34.000
You texted me and I thought you were fucking with me.
00:37:55.000
So with John being out, and then you got Connor, right?
00:37:58.000
Like Connor, Nate, things like looming in the air.
00:38:03.000
Other than that, there's not a huge money fight.
00:38:05.000
But Connor has changed the game for the better, especially if you're the fighter.
00:38:09.000
But it's like, you know, with WME, he's staring the ship.
00:38:16.000
Because the numbers coming out, they're saying it's going to be the biggest pay-per-view of all time.
00:38:19.000
So he made a hundred-something million dollars, right?
00:38:22.000
So you're telling me, if you're Conor and you're part of his team, you're going to go, hey, fight Nate Diaz for...
00:38:30.000
Oh, and also, we need you to wear this Reebok, and they're going to pay you $100,000 a year.
00:38:34.000
I think Conor's going to go, you're fucking crazy.
00:38:37.000
Well, I'm sure there's non-negotiables, and one non-negotiable is the Reebok deal.
00:38:45.000
Well, it seems like you can't get around it right now.
00:38:50.000
I'm not saying he's not going to wear Reebok, but what you have to do is you're playing a different game now.
00:38:56.000
You're talking about the biggest athlete in combat sports, and you're not getting him for the $200,000 you were paying a year.
00:39:04.000
He can go, listen, I'm down to wear Reebok, but it's a different animal now.
00:39:12.000
Just like they do Paige Van Zandt, just like they did Ronda.
00:39:16.000
More, but not to think how much he made to just wear those, you know, whatever he had on his trunks.
00:39:24.000
You know, that fight, if it really did get six and a half million pay-per-view buys, like they were talking about Conor making a hundred million dollars if it got five million pay-per-view buys.
00:39:37.000
See, but that's up for debate, because you know how that came about?
00:39:41.000
So, I think Dana was sitting on that Snoop cast or something, and Uriah's filming, right?
00:39:48.000
And Dana goes, he didn't think it was being recorded, and Dana goes, 6.5 mil.
00:39:57.000
And then Uriah turns and goes, 6.5 million, and then shuts the camera off.
00:40:04.000
But Dana never officially said 6.5, but that's how it got started.
00:40:07.000
So Espinosa from Showtime's like, uh, it's going to break the biggest preview numbers of all time, but we're thinking more around four something.
00:40:35.000
He wouldn't just throw that up because he doesn't want to look like an idiot.
00:40:39.000
Especially whether he did it officially or not.
00:40:41.000
If he says that to Uriah and Snoop, he didn't think he was being recorded.
00:40:52.000
Nationwide in America, that's 100% $2 million more overseas.
00:40:57.000
The ARC also says that it wasn't $100 worldwide either.
00:41:02.000
It's $24.99 in the UK and then Ireland, you know?
00:41:14.000
Does the UK have a history of pay-per-views like we do?
00:41:34.000
I just wonder how many people order pay-per-view.
00:41:36.000
I mean, you know, the way they watch TV is different.
00:41:38.000
I don't think they consume as much TV as we do.
00:41:41.000
With fighting, if Conor's fighting or Anthony Joshua's fighting, they do.
00:41:44.000
Yeah, but I mean, like, overall, England, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they have as many channels as we do.
00:41:57.000
I just don't think that it's a normal part of their day the way it is our day.
00:42:05.000
Yeah, it is, but I don't think they watch as much.
00:42:08.000
I don't think they watch as much TV on a whole as we do.
00:42:12.000
But I don't think they watch as much TV on a whole.
00:42:20.000
I watch some TV though, but I also work out for God's sake.
00:42:45.000
Yeah, but either way, I think it's going to break the pay-per-view numbers.
00:42:48.000
But Conor's changing the dynamics for everyone.
00:42:51.000
Because now, when you want him to fight again, you can't have him agree to those old terms.
00:42:57.000
And if you learn anything from Floyd, you know when you fight Floyd, you're fighting a different animal.
00:43:17.000
Yeah, you know, he just does his 20 seconds and he's out, man.
00:43:25.000
There's rumors that he was gonna work the Mayweather-McGregor fight, but then I guess it didn't come to fruition.
00:43:35.000
My one complaint about that whole thing is I thought they could have made the intros way better.
00:43:55.000
You never get the national anthem in an MMA fight.
00:43:57.000
Why do they always do the national anthem in a boxing fight?
00:44:00.000
Because boxing's awesome, and they appreciate America.
00:44:04.000
I think UFC has just too many goddamn countries fighting every night.
00:44:38.000
She's just missing that one crucial step of passing the ankle and getting down, locking down on the shin bone.
00:44:46.000
That's like your life depending on it, like if you were drowning.
00:44:50.000
To be able to get your foot like this is so big that to not be able to get here, this should be your whole life's goal, is to get ahead of that foot and get on that shin.
00:45:04.000
I feel like so much of what you're seeing when you're seeing MMA is fatigue.
00:45:09.000
Like that girl not locking up that triangle right there, if she was super duper fresh, like in training, no adrenaline, no weight cut, she'd be able to lock that triangle up.
00:45:32.000
But you're seeing a lot of people just doing what they can do with their body at the moment.
00:45:43.000
I've never seen Shane in my life get tapped out from a head-arm triangle.
00:46:13.000
Go ahead and break that neck like a chicken bone.
00:46:28.000
So, like, in that scramble, there was no urgency on the bottom.
00:46:34.000
When you get that opportunity, you gotta scramble hard.
00:46:36.000
Well, the champions don't, you know, they don't rest there.
00:46:39.000
In the transitions, in the scrambles, they're moving, moving.
00:46:42.000
Like, you'll get DC, Jon Jones, there's no fucking...
00:46:49.000
Chuck O'Dell was talking about how when you go down to the ground, he goes, once your back touches the ground, you gotta fucking explode.
00:46:56.000
He goes, so many guys, they get down to the ground and they try to take a break.
00:46:59.000
And he goes, you're already done if you do that.
00:47:02.000
He goes, once your back touches the ground, you gotta fucking explode.
00:47:05.000
Nobody ever gotta hold a Chuck and like hold him down.
00:47:08.000
This day and age though, guys don't really, you know, especially at a high level, like the top guys, they don't rest there.
00:47:14.000
Randy was the only one that ever controlled Chuck on the ground.
00:48:03.000
For his experience level against the best of all time.
00:48:11.000
I mean, Joshua basically was flat out cold, woke the fuck up, didn't know where he was at.
00:48:27.000
That's the record for the British pay-per-view, according to the promoter.
00:48:44.000
No, this quote here, it says they broke it, which was the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight, but I'm looking also for numbers that show official and then it never came out.
00:48:54.000
So it's somewhere around 1.5 million for Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, which is what they...
00:49:03.000
I remember seeing some numbers like this for the Mayweather-McGregor fight, this German TV. They air it for free, I think, there.
00:49:09.000
You got 10 million people watching it there or something like that.
00:49:11.000
Well, it's the same like in Brazil when like Cyborg fights or Anderson Silva, there's no pay-per-view there.
00:49:23.000
They got 16 million to watch David Hay versus Hootie fight.
00:49:37.000
Did you see when he gave a shout out to frickin', what's her name?
00:49:47.000
Sinead O'Connor did a Facebook Live suicidal from a hotel.
00:49:55.000
But then Tyson Fury reached out to her because he suffers from it too.
00:50:00.000
I don't think she's calling him, but he was like, call me.
00:50:11.000
So, second thing we gotta talk about is everybody keeps saying that you didn't tell the truth about your interaction with Nate Diaz because they're reading this transcript that somebody put up of the conversation you had with Nate Diaz where you said, I think you're off on this.
00:50:28.000
Because he goes, you're wrong, you're wrong, you don't know boxing.
00:50:31.000
And then I went, he won rounds and we're going back and forth.
00:50:37.000
And then someone wrote in quotes, he teed off on you.
00:50:41.000
Those words are in my vocabulary to describe a fight.
00:50:49.000
Have you ever heard of me doing anything like that?
00:51:08.000
So everybody out there that's talking shit, you're talking shit on a false narrative.
00:51:12.000
It's like some fake quote that someone, they might have thought they heard that, and that sounded like it was more salacious, so they put that in quotes.
00:51:26.000
It's like, Brennan Schaub talking shit to Nate and pointing down, you know?
00:51:30.000
Yeah, and he's saying, you know, people are saying, you weren't honest.
00:51:54.000
This is going to be a good fight, because C.R. Bahur-Dazad, I love saying that name, is a bad motherfucker.
00:52:01.000
He's one of those weird dudes that, like, you put your hand on him to interview him, he feels like wood.
00:52:06.000
Yeah, like, he looks like a normal dude, but he's not.
00:52:10.000
There's a lot of dudes that walk amongst us, they look like normal dudes, until you put your hand on them, you're like, hey.
00:52:28.000
I've got to stop doing these things when I come straight from yoga class.
00:52:43.000
Has there ever been a super fight that was that one-sided?
00:52:47.000
A super fight where everybody thought, like, holy shit, I can't believe this is about to go down.
00:52:52.000
And one person makes the other person look like they have no business in there.
00:53:04.000
Well, this was a bad idea for her to come back against this fucking power-punching monster.
00:53:14.000
Kat told me, Kat Zingano, she told me when that girl hit her.
00:53:20.000
Remember, she almost finished her and then Amanda gassed out.
00:53:23.000
Yeah, and Kat was telling me, she's like, nobody ever hit me that hard before.
00:53:31.000
When Shevchenko caught Juliana Peña in an armbar, I was like, wow!
00:53:50.000
And they fought once and it was a super close fight, man.
00:53:53.000
And people think if it was a championship fight with five rounds, Shevchenko would have probably won because she started to come on late and win rounds.
00:54:02.000
I was super impressed with these two right next to each other like that.
00:54:08.000
One of the things that I was super impressed with when I saw her fight Holly.
00:54:17.000
When was the last time you saw some Tim's, young Jamie?
00:54:26.000
I was just super impressed with her ability to control the interactions.
00:54:33.000
Her footwork and her technique when she was fighting, she basically shut down Holly.
00:54:41.000
I mean, I don't know what Holly was going into that fight, whether she was on a down, maybe didn't have such a good camp, maybe wasn't at her best.
00:54:48.000
But if you look at how good Holly looked against Jermaine Durandamy.
00:54:52.000
How the fuck is Jermaine Durandamy not in the top six?
00:55:10.000
She's not ranked because they're like, what do we do with this chick?
00:55:12.000
Well, it's weird because it's like she abandoned her title so she didn't have to fight Cyborg, which is probably a good move.
00:55:19.000
But also career suicide because now no one respects you.
00:55:23.000
I don't want to fight Cyborg either, but at least take the ass whoop and then cut.
00:55:27.000
Yeah, I guess the argument is like, you know, she's saying that Cyborg's a career cheater.
00:55:33.000
It doesn't work because she's passed every test in UFC. Yeah, she's passed the test now.
00:55:39.000
Especially if you look at the way she fought when she fought Tonya Evinger.
00:56:02.000
But no, if you're a Cyborg fan, you like that cerebral Cyborg, she's going to be so tough to beat.
00:56:08.000
But also, be the Mike Tyson of women fighting and murk her for us.
00:56:18.000
She just, talking about zombie mom, would not go...
00:56:28.000
Also, Cyborg, she caught Cyborg with a couple shots, a couple punches.
00:56:32.000
Not a whole lot on him, but you've got to make sure that you mind your P's and Q's.
00:56:35.000
And she knew eventually she was going to beat her down.
00:56:39.000
But Jermaine stepping away from it like that, the real shame was Jermaine would have been a fucking very interesting fight.
00:56:49.000
But now Holly comes right on in and slides right on in the DMs.
00:56:52.000
Holly should, because I think Holly won that fight.
00:56:55.000
I had Holly winning, and also Jermaine also, you know, she had some suspect punches after the rounds.
00:57:02.000
Like, they should have taken points from her, so I thought Holly won that fight.
00:57:05.000
So now, karma catching up, the way things work out, life works out, and you got Holly versus Cyborg, hopefully.
00:57:17.000
The rumor was I'm at Square Garden, but there's nothing scheduled yet.
00:57:21.000
I think that, you know, with Jermaine, she came out in the first rounds and controlled it.
00:57:32.000
You know, and I think part of it, I mean, who the fuck knows, could be pressure, could be, you know, whatever it is.
00:57:39.000
But that's when Holly clipped her with that question mark kick.
00:57:43.000
She shinned her with that, and then Holly dropped her with a straight left as Jermaine was coming forward.
00:57:48.000
Holly did the most damage, and she got hit late.
00:57:53.000
And that's why she should fight Cyborg, which...
00:57:55.000
But it pisses me off, because she should be two-division champion.
00:58:04.000
And then have Jermaine just step away from the title after that.
00:58:11.000
They definitely should have taken a point away for the second time.
00:58:19.000
I just think that rounds where Holly flattened her with that head kick and then dropped her again with that straight left.
00:58:25.000
I'm like, those are two big moments in the fight.
00:58:27.000
The most anybody was hurt in the fight were those moments.
00:58:40.000
Because if that was in Vegas or Cali, Holly would have won that fight.
00:58:43.000
Dude, how about the scorecards for the Conor Mayweather fight?
00:58:55.000
First of all, Max Kellerman owes you some dick pics or something, doesn't he?
00:59:03.000
Conor McGregor will not land a meaningful punch.
00:59:11.000
He clipped him with a good left uppercut in the first round.
00:59:15.000
And they're like, Floyd allowed him to do that.
00:59:17.000
If you know anything about Floyd, he's not allowing someone to fucking hit him in the face.
00:59:24.000
Him and Brian Barbarino should have a beach dad bod contest.
00:59:28.000
The two of them just show up on the beach with a fucking six pack.
00:59:44.000
I'm telling you, man, that dude is made out of bricks.
00:59:48.000
And he's literally like one of the densest dudes.
00:59:58.000
Oh, Baher Dozada used to fight 70. Now he's fighting at 85. God, he's a small 85-er.
01:00:11.000
If you look at the way he's built and then think of Yoel Romero.
01:00:38.000
You know, that dude who plays Tyrion Lannister is not going to kick your ass, no matter how much he puts his mind to it.
01:01:00.000
The fuck looks every bit of 42. I would say he's 36. I'm gonna say 33. What is it?
01:01:19.000
It's like you've got to change up your diet, homie.
01:01:21.000
Dude, I feel like the international ring girls are kind of killing it.
01:01:24.000
They're beating the American ones, I feel like, lately.
01:01:32.000
I'm just saying international stepping the game up.
01:01:57.000
Yeah, it's like imagine it as much as you have to train to be an MMA fighter.
01:02:29.000
Because he's throwing everything in every shot.
01:02:32.000
And if he can catch you inside the first round, especially, he's going to hurt you.
01:02:46.000
You know, when you sprint like that, when you're that guy, ooh, I like that jab.
01:02:50.000
Well, A, he has to sprint like that because he's the shorter guy, and Rob's fucking way longer and ranger.
01:02:55.000
Hey, Rob, for sure get the jab out there, though, so you keep him back.
01:02:59.000
Bajor Dezada's always been kind of a berserker.
01:03:01.000
At 70, though, it's going to be way more easier than these 85 monsters.
01:03:06.000
Yeah, well, I can't imagine that this is the weight class he's going to stay in.
01:03:10.000
I think, if I'm looking at his body right here, he's carrying around a lot of...
01:03:16.000
I feel like this is probably a short-notice fight, if I had to guess, but I'm just guessing.
01:03:21.000
He's had a long career, too, so I might just be like, I'm sick of cutting weight.
01:03:29.000
Dudes start getting, like, kidney problems and...
01:03:33.000
When their body's just shutting down from the weight loss.
01:03:37.000
I mean, that's what kept DC out of the fucking Olympics.
01:03:43.000
With the weight cutting, I think it's harder on females.
01:03:50.000
And some of them get big, and they've got to cut weight with your thyroid and all that stuff.
01:04:09.000
This says that CR has only fought four times in five years.
01:04:15.000
It's taking his goddamn time is what it sounds like.
01:04:25.000
It looks like, you can tell like he has a scar on the shoulder, the front of his shoulder.
01:04:36.000
I got weird patches of hair that don't even belong there anymore.
01:04:40.000
Dude, I feel like guys with a lot of testosterone have more hair.
01:04:52.000
Well, that's why I get super scared when I see those super hairy Russians.
01:05:03.000
Like when I fought Arlowski at Wayne's, I looked at his shoulder and went, well, sir, you have hair all over your shoulders.
01:05:32.000
Rob didn't fly from Australia to goddamn Rotterdam to get choked out like that.
01:05:50.000
That was that big giant dude that David Hay fought.
01:06:13.000
But I also feel like these dudes have crazy testosterone and fucking hairy like a gorilla.
01:06:24.000
This could just be straight up pro science on hairy backs, but I feel like guys with a lot of testosterone, not a lot of hair, hairy as fuck chest, back, and shoulders, and usually have girls.
01:06:44.000
Dude, after our last podcast, I had so many people hit me up about Large Marge.
01:06:55.000
This was 85. She was like 60. She's like healthy.
01:07:05.000
She passed away in 88. A couple years after the movie.
01:07:17.000
She fucking went Johnny Depp and started buying castles and shit.
01:07:20.000
I was reading about this chick in South Africa.
01:07:22.000
She's a student, and they're supposed to put like $100 in her account, or $1,000 in her account.
01:07:32.000
They put a million dollars in her account, and so she went off for like a month, was just buying clothes and shoes and taking her friends on trips and all that shit, and then they found it out.
01:07:51.000
She started showing up with designer clothes at school and they're like, well, what's going on?
01:07:54.000
She bought a new iPhone 7. Gucci shoes and shit.
01:08:12.000
Because the banks mess up, and you're like, oh, fuck it.
01:08:22.000
And if they went in court, then they would just take it from you.
01:08:36.000
Yeah, but do I gotta return the camel with fucking spinners on it?
01:08:42.000
Hey man, did you hear that Nate Diaz wants $20 million for the rematch with Conor?
01:08:51.000
How many pay-per-view buys do you think that that fight would be worth?
01:09:02.000
Let's say Nate fights the winner of Kevin Lee, Tony Furson, and they're the main event pay-per-view.
01:09:09.000
How many pay-per-view buys does Nate Diaz do without Conor?
01:09:17.000
It's a big Conor thing, but the big fight for Conor is Nate.
01:09:21.000
Like, if Conor fought Kevin Lee, how many pay-per-views would he get?
01:09:27.000
You look up all Conor's fights, he's never done less than a million, ever.
01:09:47.000
Well, we're sitting here frozen out, ladies and gentlemen.
01:10:03.000
Or there's such a demand for this, it's fucked up like Mayweather McGregor.
01:10:10.000
They only expected 50 people and they got 100. How dare you?
01:10:18.000
Yeah, but I think Nate, rightfully so, because that fight's going to be the biggest pay-per-view of all time.
01:10:24.000
For MMA. For MMA. For MMA. Because of Connors, right?
01:10:34.000
That's a long flight back to Australia going out like this.
01:10:45.000
When you're sitting Indian style, probably stop it.
01:11:01.000
I mean, the referee collided with him and hurt him even further.
01:11:10.000
Look forward to seeing him fight 2018. Late 2018. You don't want to do coke with that guy with the white suit.
01:11:24.000
But with Nate, I think that the fight, that's the thing with this fight, and that's why I don't think you're going to see it happen very soon, because both Nate and Conor realize how much power they have.
01:11:34.000
And you can't just go with the old rules anymore.
01:11:38.000
Conor has changed the dynamics of the fight game for the better for the fighters.
01:11:49.000
Definitely, because what they say, I think Report said between the two fights, he made around $2.5 million to fight him twice.
01:11:55.000
No, he made $2 million plus to fight him both times.
01:12:09.000
So maybe it's two and two or two and a half, two and a half.
01:12:13.000
There's no way in the world you can say, hey, Nate, fight Conor in the biggest fight of all time, trilogy.
01:12:20.000
40 million, you're gonna get two and a half again.
01:12:31.000
He probably got a million dollars plus just sitting in the bank doing nothing.
01:12:37.000
So the dynamics have shifted towards the fighters for the first time.
01:12:41.000
Now, if you're the UFC, how do you make this work with Conor?
01:12:46.000
Because he's not fighting guys anymore for 5, 10 million.
01:12:49.000
You can't when you have over $100 million in the banking.
01:12:53.000
What do you think the most Conor's made in a UFC fight is?
01:12:59.000
So now you think he can get, like, probably like 30. At least.
01:13:08.000
What if he gets, like, what if Nate and Conor gets 3 million pay-per-views?
01:13:17.000
But if Nate can talk the right amount of shit, you know, and people get excited about it.
01:13:23.000
Honestly, right now, for Conor, what else is there that's even close?
01:13:30.000
The only argument is you can say Conor's the only draw.
01:13:33.000
He can fight Billy from Afghanistan and still get two million pay-per-view buys or break a million.
01:13:39.000
I say you let Conor fight Pauli Malignaggi in Dublin.
01:13:43.000
See, if I'm Conor and I have McGregor promotions, I'm going, wait a second.
01:13:48.000
I'm going to fight this monster, Nate Diaz, and you want to pay me $10 million and you're going to wear Reeboks?
01:13:53.000
Or I'm just going to go to Dublin, me and Pauly sell this $70,000 stadium out, and I'm just going to take all of it.
01:14:05.000
They must have some sort of a deal for boxing, too.
01:14:10.000
They have that Zufa boxing shirt that Dana was wearing.
01:14:18.000
However, McGregor promotions, I'd assume, is Conor's thing.
01:14:24.000
You think he's in cahoots with the UFC? I would think he has to be.
01:14:29.000
I don't think he would make a deal with McGregor Promotions.
01:14:50.000
I would imagine he has some sort of a deal with that man.
01:14:55.000
So let's say Connor and Dana have a deal with the McGregor promotions.
01:14:59.000
They're like, alright, your next fight we're going to co-promote with you.
01:15:05.000
So then you're going to promote this huge fight and Nate's like, hold up!
01:15:09.000
If he's gonna make all this money, they're like, I know, we're in cahoots with him.
01:15:14.000
No, I don't think it would co-promote for the UFC. You don't think so?
01:15:16.000
No, but I think it would co-promote if you had a Paulie Malignaggi boxing match in Dublin.
01:15:40.000
Because if Conor learned anything from Floyd, you know that when you fight Floyd...
01:15:51.000
So Conor's going, listen, what are we doing here?
01:15:54.000
Maybe if the UFC contract that Conor has runs out, maybe they make some new, crazy, ridiculously lucrative deal.
01:16:02.000
Oh, that contract doesn't matter if it's out or not.
01:16:08.000
Yeah, there's no way you'd keep going with that current contract.
01:16:14.000
Trademarks owned by McGregor Sports and Entertainment Limited.
01:16:23.000
This is a company that officially exists and they own these things.
01:16:43.000
I don't know about the guys at WWE, but Dana White's not stupid enough to let Connor do all this and not be involved in it.
01:16:48.000
He's not even like, sure, make your own thing, man.
01:16:58.000
I would like to see him box Paulie while Nate just keeps eating tacos and going to Cabo, doing tequila shots.
01:17:14.000
If Nate wants to just chill and just train, have a good time, the fight's there in a year.
01:17:20.000
If Conor stays active, I guess, with Nate, how are you going to stay in the limelight?
01:17:31.000
Paulie Malignaggi in a boxing match in Dublin, Ireland.
01:17:36.000
He has a legit possibility to get a win over a two-time world champion.
01:17:52.000
How much money do you think you would get for that fight, though?
01:17:56.000
I bet more money than you'd get fighting Nate Diaz.
01:18:01.000
So what do you think the pay-per-view would be for a Paulie Malignaggi fight?
01:18:09.000
Conor could play fucking in a celebrity softball game right now.
01:18:14.000
So him fighting Paulie and there's all this heat.
01:18:17.000
People are like, God, he did well against Floyd.
01:18:22.000
And if it's your own promotion, what do you make?
01:18:35.000
Everyone knows I like Pauly, but now Pauly's talking shit to all the UFC. Well, he should shut the fuck up, because if he wanted to have a UFC fight, he could go over there and get his brain kicked in.
01:18:54.000
There's literally a million people in the world that could grab you and strangle the life out of you and there's not a goddamn thing you could do about it.
01:19:01.000
The UFC is not what you want to aim to point your gun at.
01:19:05.000
They will give you a wrestler and he will punch your fucking face into pulp.
01:19:10.000
Well, he's not a goddamn thing you could do about it.
01:19:14.000
Yeah, like you think he went towards Tony Ferguson.
01:19:39.000
How about you just give him a guy that's not the top of the food.
01:19:52.000
Imagine what Max Holloway would do to Pauli Malignaggi in an MMA fight.
01:19:59.000
Just try to wrap your head around the kind of ass-fucking I think Max went at him on Twitter.
01:20:15.000
How would they do in a boxing match against him?
01:20:24.000
He's had excellent timing, good discipline, and his endurance is phenomenal.
01:20:33.000
But Malignaggi's a legit world champion pro boxer.
01:20:42.000
Yeah, well, that was one of the things that people were super concerned about, him sparring with Conor.
01:20:46.000
He did two 12-round sparring matches with Conor.
01:20:52.000
And Conor was, you know, landing some, obviously, some fucking hard shots.
01:20:56.000
Just from what we know, what we definitely saw, that one straight left that fucking clanged him.
01:21:02.000
Right dead center in the mug, and you see the sparks fly.
01:21:05.000
But also to Pauly's defense, this is why I was telling Pauly, like, dude, let's say I'm retired.
01:21:10.000
So let's say Cain Velasquez was like, K-Shop, I need you to help me train, man.
01:21:23.000
If I got off the plane, even from L.A. to San Jose and Kane won some rounds, Kane goes, hey, bro, I need you to go 5-5s.
01:21:33.000
I got one round, I'm going to sit on the side and coach up.
01:21:34.000
Do you think there's a lot of ego shit going on there?
01:21:36.000
I think Connor's team brought Paulie in to fuck him up.
01:21:41.000
If he does fuck him up, we're blasting out there just to sell the fight more.
01:21:45.000
Yeah, and that was the other thing that he said about that.
01:21:48.000
Paulie's like, you'd never go 12 rounds like that.
01:21:54.000
Even in MMA, I've never heard of someone getting off a plane and going 5-5s.
01:22:20.000
You've created an animal for your UFC. Yeah, but they got to.
01:22:32.000
I want to see the full video of Pauly versus Conor.
01:22:34.000
Well, you probably could get it and watch it, but don't blast up.
01:22:36.000
Because if you do that, then you don't have a fight in Dublin.
01:22:43.000
Because let's say Connor starched him for 12 rounds.
01:22:46.000
Well, then it fucks up the pay-per-view buys them.
01:22:55.000
That's why we want this debate, so you buy the pay-per-view if you're Connor and Pauly.
01:23:03.000
That tape's out there, but you can't release it because it's gonna fuck up the fight.
01:23:08.000
Did you see when the security guards were getting in his face?
01:23:15.000
Yeah, it's like, I'm trying to hype up a fight.
01:23:16.000
Then Paulie almost got in a fight during the...
01:23:28.000
I'll kick your ass worse than Conor McGregor did.
01:23:42.000
I'll give you a worse beating than McGregor did in his Irish accent.
01:23:55.000
For sure getting security earlier in that, though.
01:23:56.000
The thing about Paulie is he's not scary looking.
01:23:59.000
So you feel like if there's a pro world champion boxer you talk shit to, that might be the guy.
01:24:11.000
That's Pauly, and then that's Connor's manager.
01:24:21.000
Hey, this is the shitty thing if you're Pauly, and this is the internet, and obviously Pauly's bringing this upon himself, but if you met Pauly, he's a great fucking dude.
01:24:33.000
He's hanging himself, because I told Paul, I went, dude, you're responding to these trolls, and I'm telling you, man, from MMA's world, they fucking hate you, man.
01:24:41.000
He fucked up when he wore the double diamond ear in studs.
01:24:45.000
See, I like the double diamond Jersey Shore look.
01:25:20.000
Dude, look at the size of Struve walking around the cage.
01:25:26.000
How the fuck did no one put a basketball in your hand?
01:25:33.000
They don't even know what basketball is until they come over here.
01:25:37.000
Taking you out of Colorado and making you play cricket.
01:25:44.000
As soon as you're done breeding in Mexico, come on over and play cricket.
01:25:51.000
Everyone who plays cricket comes from a football background.
01:25:59.000
We need someone who plays cricket who's more physical.
01:26:04.000
Talking about M1 world champion and Bellator world champion.
01:26:09.000
Bellator literally cannot hold a heavyweight champion.
01:26:11.000
When was the last time you even thought about the heavyweight?
01:26:16.000
That's why I want Roy Nelson, Bobby Lashley, world title fight.
01:26:29.000
But also, why not have Fedor and Mitrione for a world title fight?
01:26:34.000
Well, Fedor and Mitrione was a changing of the guard, for sure.
01:26:39.000
Mitrione knocking out Fedor was basically like, okay, this ride's over.
01:26:44.000
If he wants to keep doing it, he can keep doing it.
01:26:49.000
But the people in the know, that Melodano fight...
01:27:11.000
Yeah, that's when Roy was like, alright, see ya, man.
01:27:20.000
But then Roy's contract was up and he went with Bellator.
01:27:37.000
You know what's a good fucking fight coming up?
01:27:48.000
I mean, Daly had that real close fight with the Bellator champ.
01:28:08.000
Yeah, I feel like it's very possible that Rory McDonald is the best welterweight on the planet right now.
01:28:18.000
Did you see what Rory said about Robbie Lawler?
01:28:23.000
He was doing like a Reddit Q&A or Facebook Q&A and then went, hey, do you think Lawler was on steroids when you fought him?
01:28:41.000
The resiliency, but Robbie's always been like that.
01:28:47.000
He didn't look any different than he's ever looked, right?
01:28:56.000
After this John Jones thing, you're like, who knows?
01:28:59.000
Are we like, who knows, or are we like, God, that kind of makes sense now?
01:29:02.000
I was putting all my Easter Bunny chips in the dick pills basket.
01:29:08.000
It's like your girl cheats on you, you just forget about it.
01:29:11.000
I close my eyes and go to sleep and hope it's real.
01:29:21.000
Robbie looked exactly the same when he fought Cowboy, and he fought the same way, too.
01:29:25.000
Like, the third round was a rough round for Cowboy.
01:29:33.000
I said the third round was a rough round for Cowboy.
01:29:41.000
I'm like, nah, I actually had Robbie winning that one.
01:29:48.000
I like going towards the guy who's winning the fight in the last round, too, the way Pride used to do it.
01:29:53.000
But he also definitely won the first round, definitely won the third round.
01:29:59.000
And this is someone who's biased as fuck for Cowboy.
01:30:09.000
Goddamn, everybody's got to be on these goddamn new rules.
01:30:14.000
We've paid attention to three minutes of the last fights.
01:30:18.000
Yeah, a couple of dad bods, the horrible triangle attempts by the chicks.
01:30:46.000
That guy's got a total Norman Rockwell haircut.
01:30:49.000
He could be in a soda shop somewhere talking to a little kid with his dog.
01:30:55.000
God damn, a Struff has on those giant basketball shorts.
01:31:03.000
Right, his fucking heart stopped for a second there.
01:31:05.000
Yeah, he had, like, some serious problems, right?
01:31:11.000
Yeah, they had to put, like, something in his heart.
01:31:17.000
I thought it was just, like, some sort of an illness.
01:31:21.000
I feel like you'd have some sort of surgery scar.
01:31:26.000
Sometimes they go into the armpit when they do certain surgeries for the heart.
01:31:32.000
They're going through your armpit and through the side wall of your body?
01:31:36.000
So they don't have to open your chest up like a chicken?
01:31:38.000
You might be right, because I know he had some serious shit going on, because we had the same manager at the time.
01:31:47.000
You know what's interesting is Volkov is like one of the few guys that he's ever fought that's pretty close to him in the reach department.
01:31:54.000
Mayor Travis Brown said, oh, you're tall, cool.
01:32:06.000
Because remember the UFC wouldn't let him fight because he had to do something about it because the UFC was like too much of a risk.
01:32:14.000
He's putting the rape choke on against the cage.
01:32:17.000
How many times have dudes run into those guys with the cameras?
01:32:23.000
Those cameramen better have their head on a swivel.
01:32:25.000
Also, powerful Volkov has a Stingray tattoo on his back, like Moana.
01:32:49.000
Modified workout regimen, dietary changes, and blood pressure medication.
01:32:56.000
That's one word that I really don't like saying.
01:33:02.000
There's that uppercut I was talking about, son.
01:33:11.000
I'd be worried about Struve when the going gets rough in this fight.
01:33:14.000
He has to undergo another cardiovascular examination within six months in order to maintain eligibility.
01:33:25.000
Well, you know, people that are really that tall, they a lot of times have problems with their heart.
01:33:29.000
Apparently, it's just super difficult for your heart.
01:33:41.000
But there are some basketball players, we've gone over this, that are still really tall.
01:34:06.000
Who's the oldest guy that gets laid on a regular basis?
01:34:14.000
Taking pictures with a smoking jacket on and taking naps.
01:34:21.000
How the fuck has a not-tell-all book come out about him just, you know, just having limp dick all the time with all these three hot chicks?
01:34:28.000
And just the shit he goes through to get it up.
01:34:31.000
He's got an oil drum filled with Viagra by the bed.
01:34:34.000
He's taking fists and chewing them down like peanut M&Ms.
01:34:48.000
Nah, that dick game's still strong at 63. Yeah, 63. He probably died coming.
01:35:26.000
Yeah, he could just be like the ultimate ladies, man.
01:35:28.000
What is the oldest living basketball player, pro basketball player?
01:35:50.000
That's amazing that he's that healthy at that age.
01:36:13.000
I can just tell by looking at him he's not taking anyone down.
01:36:45.000
But he still lives in the back house or something?
01:36:49.000
He was trying to sell the mansion for $200 million, but he had to live there.
01:36:56.000
I was like, yeah, you can chill in the back, bitch.
01:37:02.000
Well, you gotta realize, like, how much time does he have left?
01:37:43.000
What, did you bring up the best picture of all time by a chick?
01:37:53.000
Okay, she's looking a little long in the face there.
01:38:10.000
Like if her trainer comes over and just runs trains on her.
01:38:26.000
There's no way if his heart is a normal heart, he can fuck more than once a month.
01:38:45.000
Those were the basic days before he got fucking rich and made a playboy.
01:39:02.000
1949. Who's ahead of the game when it comes to tilting your hat sideways?
01:39:12.000
Because remember, he had the TV show where he had the three girls.
01:39:44.000
But he's also probably had some super boring conversations with these chicks for a long Let's talk to a 23-year-old.
01:39:53.000
You want to ram your head into the goddamn ground after it.
01:40:01.000
I think it's part of what's valuable for his brand.
01:40:29.000
He got his last divorce because his wife was unfaithful.
01:40:35.000
He filed for divorce and says his wife was the unfaithful one.
01:40:42.000
I was talking about the ones from the Playhouse one.
01:40:45.000
Ms. Conrad cheated on him early in the relationship.
01:40:49.000
God, how are you gonna cheat on Hugh, you son of a bitch?
01:40:56.000
When I was a single man, I dated a girl who was friends with Hugh.
01:41:11.000
It would come up if she ever talked any crazy shit.
01:41:23.000
To be in a magazine in 2016. Are you shitting me?
01:41:30.000
Yeah, maybe just one of those bucket list things.
01:41:34.000
But maybe he just has a strong dick game too, Joe.
01:41:45.000
You gotta think that if you're a guy like Hugh Hefner, all these years of doing this, all these years of banging chicks, it's gotta get boring after a while.
01:41:59.000
Like, what do you do after a while when you're Hugh Hefner?
01:42:04.000
I think he, like, plays backgammon or something.
01:42:11.000
The magazine tried having no naked girls in it.
01:42:17.000
Oh, yeah, let me get my fucking Playboy subscription, because I want to know about politics.
01:42:41.000
Struve is not a spring chicken, but he's been around for a long fucking time.
01:42:48.000
Travis Brown, basically out of the picture now.
01:42:59.000
Yeah, he's been around for a long fucking time.
01:43:05.000
What, he's lost five out of the last six or six out of the seven or some shit?
01:43:08.000
I know that, you know, Josh Barnett was super impressed with him in preparation for this last fight.
01:43:15.000
It doesn't matter, though, because when you lose five out of six, you know, like, we don't care what you do in training.
01:43:20.000
He didn't look, I mean, he looked good in the beginning.
01:43:24.000
He didn't look like, you know, he doesn't look like vintage Travis Brown.
01:43:27.000
I feel like he needs to go back to Albuquerque.
01:43:30.000
But maybe he just doesn't want to do it anymore.
01:43:35.000
Maybe it's just time to move on, which isn't a bad thing.
01:43:38.000
Sometimes everyone wants these guys to keep fighting, but maybe there's more for him out there.
01:43:44.000
The bad thing is when you don't move on and you keep fighting and you don't want to.
01:44:04.000
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01:44:21.000
And this guy's, like, not quite as tall as him, but he's in the neighborhood.
01:44:33.000
I think Struve is just seven feet, so pretty close.
01:44:37.000
It's an interesting situation the heavyweight division has because you essentially have Alistair Overeem, who really looks like the only credible challenge other than Francis Ngannou.
01:44:52.000
He would have gotten it if he had beaten Junior Dos Santos.
01:44:58.000
Francis would have gotten the possibility or the opportunity, rather, to get a big win over a real big name with Junior, but Junior pissed hot.
01:45:07.000
So now Francis has to wait for another opponent, but he's the most exciting challenger.
01:45:39.000
Point is, there's only, like, legitimately, like, four or five real contenders that are exciting in the whole heavyweight division, which is just crazy.
01:46:11.000
You ever think about that when you're too tall?
01:46:29.000
You think there'll ever be a super heavyweight division?
01:46:35.000
It seems to me that they shouldn't have a weight class.
01:46:38.000
It's just like the heavyweight division in boxing.
01:46:45.000
Yeah, so you're saying it's just 206 and above to the limit?
01:46:48.000
225. Yeah, like 225. I think there should be a 205, a 225, and then have at it, fuckers.
01:47:01.000
But there's also, you're going to get some slop.
01:47:03.000
Like, usually, typically, especially with the Golden Stitch around these days, if you're over 280, you're getting sloppy up in there.
01:47:14.000
That guy ain't passing any test, including a math test.
01:47:25.000
I bet he could, like, some, like, um, what are those stones called?
01:47:34.000
He'd probably pass an Atlas stone certification test.
01:47:42.000
Look at the size of that dude picking up rocks and shit.
01:47:44.000
God, if he hears this and I run into him, it's going to be trouble.
01:48:00.000
He got stabbed with a spear and then they brought him back to life with witchcraft.
01:48:09.000
I didn't know they fucking did it, for God's sakes.
01:48:12.000
Last time I saw him is he crushed that guy's face like this.
01:48:28.000
It's tough to avoid spoilers when shit came out years ago.
01:48:33.000
These guys are rock'em sock'em robot in this bitch.
01:48:58.000
I wonder how many more times we see Strew fight.
01:49:13.000
I feel like it looks worse because he's so goddamn tall.
01:49:16.000
Like if a Burger King burns down, we don't watch it.
01:50:02.000
So is the only way this is playing on Fight Pass?
01:50:08.000
It's like on Fox Sports, Unschneiser over there or something.
01:50:24.000
Listen, if you want to keep that job, that's what you do.
01:50:30.000
They use that Joe Martinez, though, too, because he speaks Spanish.
01:50:37.000
And he was in WC. But if Bruce wants to take a break, he can.
01:50:41.000
You don't have to fly to Rotterdam for one night.
01:50:43.000
You know, that's one of the reasons why he didn't want to get his knee operated on.
01:50:48.000
He's got a blown ACL. Did you see the video of him blowing his ACL out?
01:51:08.000
Well, the Junior Dos Santos thing breaks my heart, too, because it was just a diuretic.
01:51:13.000
They found a trace amount of a diuretic in his system.
01:51:21.000
The only thing that could be is you could say that a diuretic might be used to mask steroids.
01:51:30.000
So there's potential that he was masking something, which I don't think so.
01:51:33.000
But also, no one else wants to step up the plate and fight Francis?
01:52:03.000
I mean, when Derrick fights Verdum, if Verdum wins, he's got a real good...
01:52:09.000
Real good argument for him being the next in line.
01:52:12.000
But if he doesn't, or if it's not a good fight, or if anything goes sideways, you got Alistair.
01:52:21.000
Francis hasn't have a big name or a big person yet.
01:52:23.000
If Francis beat Junior Dos Santos, you've got a big name.
01:52:32.000
The potential Francis has is absolutely world champion potential, 100%.
01:52:35.000
But it's just like, do you make the fight right now?
01:52:43.000
Mark Hunt's finding some random Russian who's ranked 11 in Australia.
01:52:53.000
You give him a big name so he can starch him, then you give him a title shot.
01:53:11.000
And I think that's when Rockwell might have peed electric.
01:53:18.000
And then, okay, Kane, obviously we're missing Kane.
01:53:21.000
But the reason why we're missing Kane is we're not completely convinced that Kane's healthy.
01:53:30.000
God, I'd watch Francis versus Kane, but Kane's fighting Stipe next.
01:53:34.000
When he's healthy, that's the fight they're going to make.
01:53:37.000
Yeah, but man, I mean, when he's healthy, those are three weird words.
01:54:00.000
He said, I'm sure we'll see every improved Stefan's Drew when he's ready to return to the octagon.
01:54:10.000
Yeah, I just feel like at heavyweight, so let's say Kane will get healthy, so you have Stipe Kane next, which is an amazing fight.
01:54:54.000
But look, after seven in both divisions, it gets super suspect.
01:55:23.000
Yeah, that's a good fight, but I like Rockhold Branch, too, man.
01:55:34.000
I was going to be in Edmonton as it is, but now they have two world title fights on the card.
01:55:39.000
They have the Bantamweight title, and then they have Mighty Mouse too.
01:55:46.000
Because Mighty Mouse wants to break the record.
01:55:48.000
But he had an opportunity to break the record if he fought TJ. And a lot of people were like...
01:55:53.000
And I heard they offered him good money, and he still was like, nah, give me Ray Borg.
01:55:58.000
Well, he said he wants TJ to fight someone at 125 pounds first.
01:56:03.000
He wants to know that he can make the weight and get a win.
01:56:06.000
But even TJ, you know, he was like, I can make the weight.
01:56:11.000
It sounds like a lot of excuses from TJ. I love TJ. But also him fighting Ray Borg.
01:56:20.000
Because you want to be a star, you've got to fight TJ. You've got to fight Dominic Cruz.
01:56:35.000
But it does nothing for Demetrius, besides, I guess, breaking the record.
01:56:53.000
It's like when John Lineker was the big thing, everybody's thinking about him fighting for the title.
01:57:22.000
No one cares, but it does get him to that magical number.
01:57:25.000
For personal reasons, it's a good powerful lizard on his shirt.
01:57:29.000
For personal reasons, it's good for DJ. Why does he have a lizard on his shirt?
01:57:58.000
He's got like some issue with his heart that is totally non-life-threatening, and he's in fantastic shape, or he was before he stepped away, and they were saying that he has like an irregular heartbeat, like he has an extra heartbeat.
01:58:13.000
But with that stuff, you know it's tough, man, because it's such a risk for the commissions to grant him to fight, and let's say his heart fucking exploded in there or some shit.
01:58:29.000
Like, you're great at commentating, you got this gig, what are you gonna do, stop doing that and come back and compete at 170?
01:58:39.000
I think he'd come back at 155. He looks very lean.
01:58:58.000
It's not good when you got a guy with a lot of pressure on him, headed towards the title.
01:59:04.000
They start, you know, if you lost, if you, on two separate occasions, you haven't made the way.
01:59:29.000
Is Mighty Mouse your pound for pound number one?
01:59:34.000
John was my number one after Merck in D.C. Yeah, I moved John closer to the number one position, although I think they're debatable and interchangeable.
01:59:42.000
Because I think Mighty Mouse wins in these spectacular ways.
01:59:48.000
He's beating, you know, it's not like that's the toughest division at all.
02:00:06.000
The only argument with Mighty Mouse is who's he beating, you know?
02:00:14.000
There's a lot of, like, super technical guys in that division.
02:00:19.000
I mean, Cejudo was really green in terms of MMA. I mean, he really had not been fighting MMA that long.
02:00:25.000
He's a fantastic wrestler, but his MMA experience is only a couple of years.
02:00:39.000
Well, that helps me feel comfortable when you get to make weight.
02:01:06.000
He looked goddamn good in his debut at 170. You're talking about Dos Anjos?
02:01:20.000
Yeah, and that's how he looks when he's fighting, too.
02:01:21.000
Is that pre-USADA? Is that picture pre-USADA? No comment.
02:01:33.000
Dude, I'll tell you the funnest fight on that card.
02:01:45.000
Is El Nino going down to 45 or is Jeremy Stevens going up?
02:01:52.000
It's 45. So Gilbert is cutting weight down to 45?
02:01:57.000
Dude, they still have fucking JDS and Francis on this card.
02:02:04.000
If you want to tune in and be like, what the fuck?
02:02:15.000
Most positive it's 45. So he's cutting weight and he's going down to 45. That's crazy.
02:02:23.000
He's never done that before and he's like, he's got to be like 35, 36, no?
02:02:40.000
Anything more to add, Brendan Shaw, before we wrap this bitch up?
02:02:48.000
Finally we got back together and did one of these, huh?
02:02:53.000
Brian not dropping some old school knowledge on us.
02:02:56.000
You're lucky because in Rotterdam, I'm sure he had some gems for you.
02:03:00.000
Yeah, he probably explained the government to us.
02:03:07.000
I feel a little flat today, and Eddie went, did you say flat?
02:03:13.000
They were debating whether or not North Korea is, like, what's happening in North Korea.
02:03:21.000
And they were debating, like, why you don't fall off the earth.
02:03:26.000
If the earth is spinning so fast and we're going so fast through and it's on a turn, how come we're not just flying off of it?
02:03:39.000
It's like one of those things where you could find out about gravity.
02:03:42.000
You just do a Google search and read some papers about how mass works and how it works in space and what gravity is and what causes the force of gravity.
02:03:53.000
They've done experiments for hundreds of years.
02:04:04.000
But half the reason why he believes is because he's enjoying himself.
02:04:10.000
He's spicing up life with these wacky conspiracies.
02:04:17.000
You never hear Eddie look at something that's in the news and go, well, we're just looking into it too much.
02:04:26.000
Even that Chester Bennington, the Linkin Park guy, he's like, you know about that, right?
02:04:34.000
Well, the problem with that one is, man, the guy's dead.
02:04:37.000
If he killed himself and he's got kids and a family.
02:04:47.000
But also, I think you need people like Eddie in this world.
02:04:53.000
I don't want everyone to agree with all the news.
02:04:58.000
Well, that's one of the reasons why Eddie's such a jiu-jitsu genius.
02:05:00.000
It's because he marches to the beat of his own drummer.
02:05:04.000
He has, like, ideas in his head, and then he's just like, we're gonna make this fucking work.
02:05:08.000
But when you say drum, it's not like your standard drum.
02:05:10.000
It's like a starship drum, and there's that alien with seven arms banging it while we're...
02:05:14.000
We're not sure if the Eclipse is real or if NASA... It's a NASA hoax to sell sunglasses.
02:05:24.000
Callan, it drives them nuts, but I'm like, I want colorful people in the world, man.
02:05:28.000
Callan is almost as silly in the other direction.
02:05:35.000
He thinks Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, and he'll tell you about, actually, you should read Vincent Bugliosi's book.
02:05:49.000
I'll entertain it, but until we start talking about the earth is flat, then I'm out.
02:05:53.000
Any shit that doesn't really involve me, where I don't I either have a stake in it or I don't actually know what happened.
02:06:13.000
I'll go, man, you're probably wrong about that.
02:06:18.000
Dude, I was convinced that Bigfoot was actually real for, like, 20 minutes.
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The famous video, and I was like, what if Bigfoot's real and I'm just an asshole?
02:06:31.000
Like, what if this whole time I've been saying, it's fake, it's fake.
02:06:35.000
And that poor guy actually captured it on film.
02:06:39.000
But see, if you sat me with a Bigfoot expert, I'm not so close-minded, I'm just going to shut him down.
02:06:44.000
I'm going to listen to it and then be like, maybe!
02:06:47.000
Until you realize there are no Bigfoot experts.
02:06:49.000
Every Bigfoot expert you meet is kind of a loon.
02:06:53.000
A lot of them are super nice guys, but when you get deep in them...
02:06:56.000
I had one dude on the podcast tell me he would cut his pinky off to find out if Sasquatch was real.
02:07:06.000
Like, I had a guy who wanted to follow the eclipse through all the states I drive with.
02:07:12.000
You want to suck your dick before or after you put the sunglasses on?
02:07:14.000
See, that's why I said, he's the maintenance guy around my house.
02:07:31.000
Let's look at the eclipse over and over and over again.
02:07:34.000
I could look at a picture of the eclipse and go, I get it.
02:07:42.000
And then he was saying the next one's in like 24 years in Dallas.
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He's like, I'm gonna buy a property down there and rent it out.
02:08:07.000
Well, they're just going to stand outside your house with glasses and then get back in their car and go, yeah, I was done.
02:08:17.000
Because summertime in Dallas is like summertime on the sun.
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It's like, you might as well be living on the sun.
02:08:26.000
No one's going to stand outside your fucking stupid house with those weird sunglasses.
02:08:31.000
That guy who follows the eclipse and he's boring as fuck, but at least the eclipse is real, or a guy like Eddie Bravo who believes in Bigfoot, Flat Earth, conspiracy theories?
02:09:13.000
One of the guys I had on my podcast is named Rupert Sheldrake, and he has a very compelling thought.
02:09:19.000
That memory is not just a function of your neurons and your brains and your cells.
02:09:24.000
Because here's the thing, you have memories from the time when you were a child, right?
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Almost every cell in your body regenerates every seven years.
02:09:38.000
Where are your memories that you definitely have of your childhood?
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Or are those memories not really your memories anymore?
02:09:44.000
Is it you remember having those memories so you have sort of like a rehashed version of it that you put in your head and sort of almost like retelling yourself a story?
02:09:58.000
There's a lot of shit that I know happened when I was in high school, but quite honestly, I don't really have a good memory of it.
02:10:06.000
Is that just a function of the human brain where it can't remember so much data because we only use, what, 7%?
02:10:15.000
That 7% of the brain is something that people repeat over and over again.
02:10:22.000
There's different parts of your brain that are responsible for different functions.
02:10:28.000
Then why do some people's brains, why are some people's brains like, you know, they can remember to the T when they were a kid and like all these memories, and there's some people that just don't.
02:10:48.000
I remember massive amounts of data from high school.
02:10:52.000
What I'm saying is, I don't have a real memory of it.
02:10:55.000
Like, I can remember getting laid in high school, right?
02:11:00.000
Yeah, you remember scary events, you remember happy events, you remember sad events, you remember big moments, big explosions in your consciousness, right?
02:11:08.000
They say your brain's designed to remember negative things more so than positive things.
02:11:16.000
What are you going to remember positive things all day and pat yourself on the back?
02:11:24.000
I think what we think as a memory, we'd like to think of a memory like, look, I've got a memory of that fight.
02:11:31.000
I've got a memory of that combination that landed.
02:11:38.000
But even right now, it's sort of like a little shitty slideshow.
02:11:45.000
I'm going to walk out of here and I won't remember anything about it.
02:11:50.000
But it's not important to me, so I don't store it away.
02:11:54.000
Whereas certain stuff, like my set or my big appointment on Tuesday, I remember that stuff.
02:12:06.000
And this is weird coming from me because I have a very good memory on paper.
02:12:11.000
If you think of the amount of things that I can recall during a podcast, the amount of fights that I can recall during broadcasts and in the middle of a fight, all the different martial arts moves I have in my head and who used them against who and where and what.
02:12:27.000
That's knowledge and statistics and Those are numbers.
02:12:34.000
But as far as my own life, I did two sets last night.
02:12:48.000
Highly superior autobiographical memory, the detailed recollection of events that occurred in the distant past.
02:12:57.000
She can tell you, you could say, February 22nd, and she can go, February 22nd, 1978, and she goes, that was Tuesday.
02:13:09.000
But you know what's weird is like, there's certain things when people go, remember we did this?
02:13:14.000
But then something will trigger, like a smell or a song, and then it comes.
02:13:21.000
You're like, you're in your closet digging around.
02:13:26.000
Yeah, if you see like some pictures from high school, you'll go, whoa.
02:13:30.000
But a smell, a scent, someone to say something.
02:13:35.000
Yeah, that's why it's really dangerous to convict people based on witness testimony if they see a crime.
02:13:41.000
People, they don't really remember things right.
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And I'm sure the night before, like, God, we'll remember this, and God, he is an animal, and they create this narrative that they wish they want to see and they think it was real.
02:13:52.000
And also part of it is a real problem if it was traumatic.
02:13:59.000
There's people that can plant false memories in their own head?
02:14:04.000
And when they're trying to get false convictions and whatnot, they can make people confess to stuff they didn't do.
02:14:09.000
Because the pressure of being interrogated is crazy for people.
02:14:17.000
He fucked the Brendan name, but Brendan Dacity?
02:14:19.000
There's a lot of people that are not convinced that making a murderer was correct.
02:14:24.000
There's a lot of people that are convinced that it was biased.
02:14:26.000
It was biased in the way of making that guy look like he was innocent.
02:14:32.000
He's innocent, but when you look into it, he's a bad, terrible person.
02:14:35.000
He could have very well been guilty and they framed him.
02:14:42.000
People think that Mark Furman planted those gloves on OJ, but who doesn't think OJ's guilty?
02:14:52.000
Well, I live in this little neighborhood, so I do.
02:14:56.000
That Mark Furman, that was just for the defense to paint that, or the prosecution, right?
02:15:01.000
Paint that narrative to maybe put that seed in everyone's head.
02:15:14.000
There's a few people that think, like, I've heard the crazy ones, like OJ's son did it or something like that.
02:15:23.000
But, and like I said to my brother, I went, God, I wish I really knew the truth about OJ. And my brother looks at me and goes, are you shitting me?
02:15:33.000
But people put all these different stories out there where you're like, God, maybe he didn't do it.
02:15:37.000
But I just want to know for a fact that How did it really go down?
02:15:42.000
Do you think he's ever going to come out and be like, listen?
02:15:45.000
I don't think he necessarily remembers anymore.
02:15:49.000
I think it's entirely possible that he's a sociopath and a narcissist.
02:15:56.000
And I think that a lot of times narcissists and sociopaths, like to that degree, like he's just charming the world.
02:16:14.000
Like he's trying to paint this image all day long of him being a good guy.
02:16:21.000
And they said that's why he would beat, like, a lot of, like, he was so upset about that.
02:16:25.000
Did you watch that thing when he gave that, uh...
02:16:32.000
You definitely shouldn't do that when you're trying to get...
02:16:37.000
He's like, I said I wasn't there or something like that.
02:16:43.000
Look, man, when you're a man and you're locked up with other men as prisoners all day long, forever, it's a horrific existence.
02:16:54.000
And it's amazing that he was able to get through it at all and then still pull off that kind of charm.
02:17:02.000
He was the prime example of a prisoner and he started organizing church groups and feeding everyone's lunches and he was cool.
02:17:44.000
My point was like, what kind of memory of the event...
02:17:49.000
So if he did it, what kind of memory does he have?
02:17:53.000
You don't think you remember that traumatic event?
02:17:57.000
I wonder if you're a sociopath, and I wonder if you've been telling people for all these years that you're innocent.
02:18:05.000
I'm trying to get out and find the real killer.
02:18:12.000
The reason why, I mean, he never said that during any of the parole thing.
02:18:30.000
Yeah, he was going to, but he didn't release that book.
02:18:37.000
I believe, I'm pretty sure, that the publishing company backed out of that.
02:18:53.000
I don't know if he would do it, but if he did do it, yeah, I'd have him on.
02:19:08.000
If I did it in the I. Buy it right now on Amazon.
02:19:28.000
They get all the money, but did he really write the full story?
02:19:37.000
Can't make money off the crime is sort of what it is.
02:19:39.000
How much money, and also they have a civil case against him, how much money do you think he made off that book?
02:19:45.000
God, you don't make that much money off books unless you're just fucking...
02:19:52.000
Yeah, if you're writing books that old people read, they buy a lot of books.
02:20:18.000
I didn't even know it was out and I'm all about this.
02:20:24.000
It was like a $35 million settlement or something like that?
02:20:44.000
Brian ran into the dad in Phoenix selling men's shirts.
02:20:52.000
I was trying to think what he was selling, but I remember selling men's golf shirts or some shit.
02:21:07.000
I mean, you only got a certain amount of time left on this planet.
02:21:14.000
It's going to be tough to get out of OJ. He's still pretty athletic and black.
02:21:16.000
So I'd probably get a gun and when he gets out, drive down to Florida or if he comes back to Brentwood.
02:21:23.000
He's going to make it super easy on you and probably shoot him.
02:21:28.000
Could be headed to reality TV. That's what I called!
02:21:33.000
Watching that documentary about him, I completely forgot about all the weird stuff he was doing before he did go to jail.
02:21:39.000
He was making that show in Vegas where he had...
02:21:46.000
Yeah, he had a rap song after he murdered his wife.
02:21:49.000
Right before he went to jail in like 2005 or 6. He had a rap.
02:22:04.000
Are we going to get pulled off of YouTube for the OJ Simpson song?
02:23:25.000
See, he was doing a prank show and you got juiced was the tagline.
02:23:31.000
He did a fucking prank show after he murdered two people.
02:23:58.000
So he's gotta be like 60 years old when this is happening.
02:24:13.000
Another reason he needs to come on the goddamn podcast.
02:24:16.000
Yeah, maybe he'll come on dressed like Elvis again.
02:24:25.000
I wonder if he was like, look, I gotta make money.
02:24:51.000
This rap song where it's like, it's hot in the streets in LA. That is true.
02:25:09.000
I mean, I feel like a guy like that probably, like, would do anything.
02:25:12.000
It's like, we gotta figure out some way to do it, and who's gonna be working with him?
02:25:15.000
You're not gonna get, like, the top minds of Hollywood.
02:25:19.000
I mean, he might pop up on some reality show, but, dude, imagine those hoes.
02:25:24.000
They were saying he was getting more women than ever when he got out.
02:25:35.000
What type of psycho chicks are hooking up with OJ right now?
02:25:41.000
There's people that are attracted to murderers.
02:25:48.000
Yeah, girls like send pictures and there's something that some women like about bad people.
02:25:53.000
Charles Manson tried to get married and I guess the court was like, nah man.
02:26:09.000
He's still got the swastika tattooed on his forehead, too.
02:26:16.000
Dude, every time he's up for parole, you ever see him go nuts?
02:26:21.000
He goes opposite of fucking- I eat your garbage, man!
02:26:53.000
She's probably just got moves that you never even heard of before.
02:27:07.000
We've got to get you a wig until that shit grows back.
02:27:10.000
Some girls can't pull off the no-shirt-shaved-head test.
02:27:14.000
Some girls look pretty until you shave their head and take their shirt off, and you go, hey, hey, hey.
02:27:30.000
Oh, shit, with the wolf guy, 65. With his disciple, Gray Wolf, 65, just months after her marriage license to wed the murderer expired.
02:27:40.000
Bro, she was getting dicked down by two old dudes.
02:27:47.000
Look, this girl's obviously fucking bananas, right?
02:27:54.000
Damn, and the gray wolf guy got arrested for smuggling a cell phone in.
02:28:02.000
They like to be friends with a guy and bang his girlfriend.
02:28:04.000
Dude, those two old dudes are busting loads in this crazy bitch.
02:28:10.000
His loads, all of them, have like a swastika on it.
02:28:30.000
They come in with like, you know when cartoons and people are dead and they have an X for eyes?
02:28:39.000
You know, you catch a fish and they're dead and their eyes cloud over.
02:28:50.000
He called the marriage off after apparently he found out that they were trying to get him to sign a document to give his body to them and they were going to put his body in a glass crypt when he died and probably sell tickets to some sort of weird Charles Manson grave.
02:29:06.000
The fucking government's had me in a casket forever, man!
02:29:19.000
You gotta take a certain amount of crazy if you want to bang a hot 25-year-old and you're an 80-year-old serial killer.
02:29:31.000
27-year-old sought to wed the mastermind of the Helter Skelter murder so that she could gain possession of his remains when he died.
02:29:46.000
See, but we're saying that as if that wasn't, like, that was, like, her plan all along.
02:30:00.000
It might not have been some grand conspiracy that she masterminded from the beginning.
02:30:12.000
I want to put his body in a fucking jar and let everybody look at him.
02:30:24.000
She'll probably tell you some shit about psychics and aliens.
02:30:38.000
You don't want that bitch finding out where you are.
02:30:41.000
Just coming out trying to suck your dick when you get in your car.
02:30:53.000
You're talking about that power stance with the towel behind his neck?
02:30:56.000
Dude, my calisthenics, that's how I keep my eyes.
02:31:07.000
I mean, what a, oh, not entitled to a conjugal visit.
02:31:29.000
I was trying to see if that's what is the term for women who like psychopath killers.
02:31:39.000
I know that Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker, He had a bunch of chicks that were trying to marry him.
02:31:45.000
Dude, Ted Bundy was like just killing the gang.
02:31:49.000
If he had Tinder, if there was like Tinder for serial killers, he's getting swiped left all fucking night.
02:31:54.000
Pulled that phone out of his ass and just started swiping.
02:32:06.000
Somebody who was like a famous singer got in his car and realized it.
02:32:11.000
Like, as she was about to get in the car, she realized that the inside of the door did not have any handles on it.
02:32:29.000
The one thing they'll have in common is they're charming.
02:32:36.000
He's charming in sort of an apocalyptic way where he understands...
02:32:48.000
But there's a lot of those batshit crazy girls out there that want you to tell them about the Illuminati.
02:33:00.000
You know, there's people that want to hear, like, really nutty shit from some old daddy dude.
02:33:12.000
It's awesome that there's a girl who's like, her main goal in life is to fuck Charles Manson.
02:33:25.000
Until they start killing people, but when they're that crazy.
02:33:30.000
But I'm a fan of you wanting to marry Charles Manson and put him in a fish tank.
02:33:35.000
I love that you shaved your head, you crazy bitch.
02:33:37.000
And I love that you attacked him from his old friend.
02:33:40.000
She's probably got some really stupid quotes tattooed on her ribs.
02:33:47.000
Something from some ancient book translated from Latin to English.
02:34:10.000
My faith in humanity is somewhat restored because of Houston.
02:34:14.000
Because of all the videos that I saw of all these people rescuing people in Houston.
02:34:22.000
They were saying there's like no looting or anything going on.
02:34:24.000
Like communities coming around helping each other.
02:34:35.000
So you could get away with some shit, but they're saying everyone's just gathering around and helping each other out, which is cool.
02:34:41.000
You know, I think Texas has a good sort of pride in being Texas.
02:34:52.000
California is very different than any other state, too.
02:34:58.000
But man, Texas has its own vibe, to the point where it's almost another country.
02:35:02.000
Like Texas, if you meet someone from Texas, they want you to know you're from Texas.
02:35:08.000
You don't see people from Miami super prideful or fucking Fort Lauderdale.
02:35:22.000
Lone Star barbecue, Lone Star this, Texas that, Texas this.
02:35:36.000
Like, they were, like, one of the only states that, like, had this argument that they could leave the country.
02:35:44.000
And it's also a weird state that they have these giant-ass ranches.
02:35:48.000
Like, Texas has these, like, 80,000, 100,000, like, gigantic acre ranches.
02:36:03.000
There's more tigers in Texas in private collections than all of the wild in the world.
02:36:34.000
He basically has like a small European country.
02:36:38.000
I bet that shit's like the size of Rhode Island.
02:36:39.000
Oh, bro, first of all, there's a King Ranch Ford truck.
02:36:51.000
There's nothing more American than that King Ranch F-150.
02:37:23.000
Yeah, click on the lower left, or the left-hand side.
02:37:59.000
Those deer, a lot of them, what they do is they get them from, when you see crazy antlers with all kinds of goofy shit all over them, not like normal antlers, a lot of that is selectively breed.
02:38:15.000
They feed them this insane concentration that has like fish.
02:38:24.000
And then they bring in certain bucks that have crazy genetic characteristics and they breed them together.
02:38:30.000
Like any hunter that sees crazy deer with all sorts of bullshit all over the place, they go, oh, okay, you're shooting a farm deer.
02:38:38.000
No, because a lot of those times, these animals, they're getting shot in these tiny little farms.
02:38:47.000
Because it grew up basically like a rich kid in Calabasas.
02:38:49.000
And most of these people are shooting it with a gun, too.
02:38:51.000
So they're just setting up shop, waiting for that thing to walk in the right thing, and boom, they blow it away.
02:39:14.000
I can't believe they have their own fucking truck.
02:39:27.000
They have North American crocodiles in Florida, but I don't think they have them in Texas.
02:39:37.000
Let saltwater fishermen be the best place in Texas coast to pursue speckled trout and redfish.
02:39:48.000
They might have got wrecked by this storm, by the way.
02:39:53.000
They're somewhere on the water if they have ocean fishing.
02:40:00.000
They might have just dug a fucking, we're going to get us a compound going about 17 feet deep with the concrete.
02:40:07.000
We designed this motherfucker to be aerodynamic so when them 400 mile an hour winds come, they just glide.
02:40:18.000
Why don't you Google King Ranch hurricane damage?
02:40:24.000
We're going to get an invitation from the King Ranch.
02:40:29.000
Will you shoot a hog out of a helicopter with me?
02:40:34.000
I would do it with Ted Nugent, but Doug Stanhope will get mad at me.
02:40:47.000
You, me, and Tim Kennedy in a fucking helicopter.
02:41:05.000
Yeah, I'm trying to find something that has specifically King Ranch in it, but this has it hit right near the beach.
02:41:15.000
King's Ranch might have some special protection program.
02:41:17.000
They're so fucking rich where just these walls go up and can't fuck with them.
02:41:20.000
We set it up so you just press a button here and the whole building slides underground right quick.
02:41:26.000
Like where the X-Men, their fucking jet comes out of town.
02:41:37.000
Do you think that's like a place where you could...
02:41:39.000
I think that's one of the few places that I could live outside of California that I would be like super happy.
02:41:46.000
Like Texas, Dallas, although it gets hot, but I could definitely have been Austin.
02:42:16.000
Just some good shit right over here on Ventura.
02:42:20.000
It's weird how, like, Thais made it all the way...
02:42:23.000
I mean, like, I guess they're everywhere, but, like, you go to, like, a lot of these Thai restaurants, it's very rare that they're not Thais working there.
02:42:29.000
Ah, if they have a white person, I just turn around and walk out.
02:42:37.000
Yeah, white dudes, there's a lot of, like, white people getting into the Mexican food game.
02:42:47.000
You can make some good Mexican food, but better hide in the kitchen.
02:43:03.000
Chipotle used to have a lot of Mexicans working at it.
02:43:09.000
Well, McDonald's bought them, they fucked up, and then they bought it back, right?
02:43:18.000
For me, I get two orders of guacamole and I get one of them rice bowls with steak.
02:43:24.000
And I'm eating fairly keto without eating all the rice.
02:43:28.000
If I just eat mostly the meat and the guacamole, which is fantastic for you.
02:43:32.000
You get the fajita veggies for the bed and then you do double meat.
02:43:43.000
For fast food, it's about as good as you're gonna get.
02:43:47.000
Thai food, they say to a certain point, can be healthy, too.
02:43:49.000
If it's like real Thai, like the noodles and stuff, obviously not keto, but...
02:44:02.000
You know, the thing that knocks me back on course, though, is those ketones, man.
02:44:07.000
Exogenous ketones, taking that ketogenic stuff.
02:44:15.000
But, you know, you had homeboy, like, Dr. Keto on your show.
02:44:17.000
He was saying, really, it's going to take about a year, 18 months, some shit, to stay in ketosis.
02:44:35.000
They disagreed with him about physical performance.
02:44:36.000
And he was like, to stay in Keto, and if you're trying to get on Keto and you listen to that podcast, a motherfucker is so discouraging.
02:44:42.000
He's like, you need about 12 to 18 months before anything happens.
02:44:50.000
You know what the thing that gets me the most that I found was when my body became fat adaptive, right?
02:44:56.000
The thing that I could tell for sure was that my appetite was not crazy in the middle of the afternoon.
02:45:02.000
Where now I went off it and I'm doing pescatarian and having more carbs and I'm fucking starving.
02:45:19.000
You gotta be careful with mercury levels and stuff, too.
02:45:38.000
I know keto works, but again, after listening to Homeboy on the podcast, I was like, shit, unless I'm all the way in for 18 months.
02:45:45.000
Yeah, well, I think he's talking about all the benefits.
02:45:48.000
He's talking about there's real serious metabolic benefits to be gained from staying with it for long periods of time.
02:45:55.000
I think that's probably the case, but food is something else, too.
02:46:03.000
There's something to be said about enjoying life.
02:46:08.000
I follow what I call the 80-20 principle, where 80% of the time, I eat really good.
02:46:18.000
Then Sunday, if I'm with my fam, or like we went to Universal on Thursday, I had a bunch of chicken tenders.
02:46:23.000
I also work out like a fucking demon, so I don't get fat.
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Yeah, but I just like a little lasagna every now and then.
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You know that feeling when you take a big bite of fucking heavy sauce cheesy lasagna and you're like, oh my god.
02:46:46.000
We're just talking shit about advertisements on Domino's.
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When's the last time we had a hot Domino's pizza?
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Domino's pizza, they always have it in the back if they can get it at a UFC. Actually, they just get any kind of pizza.
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If you want to make sure you have a fresh pizza, when you're ordering online, make sure you ask for extra robust tomato sauce.
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Because they're not going to give you an old one.
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So they have to put extra on it so it's a fresh pizza.
02:47:22.000
Dude, there's a place in Woodland Hills, Tonino's.
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They open Domino's mouth up like, you know the crocodiles?
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And the crocodiles are biting cartoon characters and they're holding the mouth up.
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They were trying to probably market the kids back in the 80s.
02:48:22.000
I go, again, the extra robust tomato sauce, cheese, pepperoni, jalapenos, tomatoes, I think.
02:48:42.000
The classic for me is pepperonis with mushrooms.
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Some pizza, I like a fucking flat cheese pizza.
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You lost me on the anchovy, but I fucks with the pineapple.
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Pineapple and anchovy pizza is fucking delicious.
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But if you're watching a movie or something like that, like Guardians of the Galaxy 2 or something like that, you get a double pineapple.
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I like a nice margarita pizza too if it's done right.
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It's wheat like our wheat used to be before we started fucking with it to make it more durable, to make it survive pesticides, to make it last longer, and to give more yield.
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Like if you have an acre of land and you grow this heirloom wheat, you'll have a smaller yield than you have an acre of our new- So better quality.
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Yeah, it's sort of like the same thing when you see tomatoes in the store and they're big and they're fucking pale as shit.
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Whereas you get an heirloom tomato, they're only good for like a couple of days and then they start to rot.
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But when you catch them and they're fresh, god damn, they're like a fruit.
02:50:58.000
See, the thing is, like, their pasta is available in the United States.
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But I think it's called Double O Pasta or Double O Wheat.
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And it tastes different while you're eating it.
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Typically milled in Italy, where millers grade their flour using a zero rating.
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A single zero flour is quite coarse in texture, like a powderly semonella, whereas triple zero is much finer like cornstarch, but everyday flour is usually classified as double zero.
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But just this one company that I bought it for, goddammit.
02:52:26.000
Everyone says New York pizza, Chicago pizza, LA pizza, Juista, or you get Jelena takeaway pizza.
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This margarita pizza, knock your dick in the dirt.
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My friend Steve Sharippa, he's been on the podcast before.
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Him and his wife created it and make it themselves.
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But they have a spicy pasta, like an aria bata.
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It's got a kick, but it's all organic, super healthy, really good, delicious.
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I always like when I see people get a pizza oven in their backyard.
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I'm like, that's something you're going to use three times.
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It's like when you see someone who doesn't work out.