Tony Hinchcliffe and I are back on a flight back from Dallas, Texas. I accidentally kicked a chair on the way back from the Verizon Wireless Theater and now we re headed back to New York City. We talk about the UFC and what it s like to be a flight attendant on a major airline like JetBlue or Southwest. We also talk about United Airlines and the recent incident with a man who was dragged off a plane. The Joe Rogan Experience is a pod by day, a podcast by night, all day long. Enjoy the journey with us as we talk about life on a plane and all of the things we have to deal with on a daily basis as flight attendants. Enjoy the ride home with us! -Joe Rogan and the crew at Joe Rogans Pod by Night Podcast -All Day, All Day. -Jon Sorrentino and the UFC wrap up show with a little bit of everything you could ask for! Get your tickets to the show here! If you like what you hear, tweet us and we'll send you a review of the show! Timestamps: 5:00 - What's your favorite part of the UFC post UFC post-fight experience? 6:30 - What do you like about it? 7:15 - Who do you think is the most annoying passenger on the plane? 8:30- What's the worst airline? 9:20 - What are you would like to fly on a Southwest flight? 11:00- What kind of airplane? 14: Which airline do you fly on the most? 15:40 - Which airline are you flying the most comfortable? 16: What airline is your favorite meal? 17:15- Which airline is the best place to fly the most expensive? 18:40- Is it the most fun to get the most interesting? 19:00 21:00 -- What are your favorite thing to eat the most efficient? 26:40 -- Which airline should you fly the best of the best? 27:30 -- What s your favorite airline to drink the most of the most affordable? 25: Is your favorite airport food? 28:20 -- what do you have the most european airport? 29:15 -- How do you feel about the best coffee? 30:00 | What s the worst thing you're most uncomfortable? 31:30 -- what are you looking for?
00:00:32.000I accidentally just kicked that lady's chair where we had a great old time at the Verizon Wireless Theater on Friday night and then the UFC last night and now we're headed back.
00:00:45.000Shout out to Ryan, the dude we had breakfast with.
00:03:27.000I feel like it's just, there's a thing going on where they just decided to shove as many people into a plane as possible, forget about how good the experience is.
00:03:37.000But if you work for an airline, I'd have to imagine working for JetBlue feels better.
00:03:44.000Than working for, like, United right now.
00:03:48.000Everybody hates United after that dude got beat up and dragged off a plane.
00:05:22.000And all that guy did was be a customer.
00:05:24.000And that's, like, one of the most devastating things you could ever watch if you're, like, one of the people that's in charge of publicity for that company.
00:05:31.000You'd be like, what the fuck did you guys do?
00:06:20.000So if you think of the morale and the way it feels to be on that airplane versus the way it feels to be on a JetBlue, you get those nice big seats, little TVs behind the seats, it's not bad at all.
00:08:40.000And then she was doing some sort of an interview before the fight and she said something and people were laughing and they were joking around about it.
00:08:47.000She goes, maybe Joe Rogan and Tony Hinchcliffe will take me on the road with them.
00:10:59.000But it was a perfect combination of a ruthlessly powerful, attacking, determined person versus a person who maybe doesn't have as much physical power or maybe doesn't have as much pop on their shots, but is a brilliant tactician and a brilliant technician.
00:12:00.000The real high-level kickboxing, like World Championship Muay Thai and Bellator and Glory and all those high-level kickboxing events you see on television, it's all three-minute rounds.
00:12:12.000And what she's doing is she's kickboxing, like massive footwork, but she's also fighting off takedown defense, which makes you more tired, and she's adding another two minutes.
00:12:24.000Well, I mean, if I showed you at least all the fights that I've seen, which is the last four or five whatever UFC fights, if we made a compilation of her getting taken down, Joana Janjacek, She pops right back up.
00:12:40.000Every single time against Gedalia, against Valerie Letourneau, against everyone.
00:13:00.000There's a big, muscular person on your back, but she just sees through it.
00:13:04.000She just looks at it one step at a time.
00:13:06.000You can almost see she plants her foot, she posts up, and she stands up.
00:13:11.000It's like she doesn't even look at it like a challenge.
00:13:15.000She's also a superior athlete and a big part of her athleticism and in her kickboxing is her legs.
00:13:22.000She's a big part of it is her ability to move which is like a lot of plyometric type activities and also her ability to throw power like in her leg kicks and her knees and stuff like that so her base and her legs are really strong and when you take her down she's so technical with her Muay Thai that she becomes that technical I'm sure with her grappling too so she's doing the right things and she's got a lot of power a lot of physical power with her legs she's explosive and fast her balance is sick Very,
00:17:09.000He goes, he goes, he goes, John, he goes, I don't even know if this fight's going to take place if you don't get in trouble for steroids or doing cocaine or sandblasted a prostitute.
00:18:02.000Which he won the first one, and still people are like, no way, he's gonna get his head knocked off.
00:18:07.000And, yeah man, you want to talk about being in there with someone dangerous, like, you can hear and feel the wind blow by you when Rumble misses a punch.
00:18:50.000And I think he wanted to give it one more try.
00:18:52.000But I think that as good as Rumble is, and I think he's physically one of the most talented guys of all time, if you don't want to do it, you shouldn't be doing it.
00:19:00.000And clearly, if you retired afterwards, it's because he didn't want to do it.
00:19:03.000This doesn't take anything away from his ability or who he is, or should it in any way be thought of as an insult.
00:19:08.000It's a decision that he's made, a personal decision in life.
00:20:38.000So, like, I, you know, I mean, Daniel, Daniel beat him up both times, but I feel like the second time, I was just so surprised that he was clenching with Daniel.
00:21:40.000That just goes to show you that in life sometimes you've got to do what you want to do, regardless of what everybody else thinks.
00:21:47.000Because here's this guy who's, if not number one, number two, right behind the champ, right?
00:21:55.000So you've got DC. He's either number one or Jon Jones is, and they've never fought, so we don't know.
00:22:00.000But if Rumble and Jon Jones did fight, then we would know if Rumble's number two or if he's number one in terms of the biggest challenge to Cormier.
00:22:10.000But, you know, he's got to do what he's got to do.
00:22:14.000That's the cool thing about, you know, like, life.
00:23:45.000It's really interesting because he obviously has very good technique and he throws his body into everything very well.
00:23:52.000He's obviously a really strong guy, but the strength that he has, the power that he has in his striking is almost like you're born with that.
00:24:01.000He has all the elements to accentuate that power, He has all the technique.
00:25:30.000I think it was all the Jon Jones stuff.
00:25:32.000It was the fact that he got the title sort of in what many people consider an illegitimate manner, meaning that they stripped Jon Jones, which makes sense that they stripped him.
00:25:41.000You know, he violated the code of the organization and He personally, immensely fucked up, made giant mistakes.
00:25:47.000But everybody knew that John was the baddest motherfucker on the planet.
00:25:50.000When it came to 205 pounds, there was one dude.
00:29:28.000This is two guys trying to get under each other's skin and John was very good at it.
00:29:33.000So this was after the first fight when they were supposed to fight for the second time and then it got cancelled and John got stripped and the whole deal.
00:29:40.000So now they're finally going to go after it, but John's only been back in the octagon once since then against Ovin St. Preux.
00:30:27.000The point being, that's an interesting fight, man, because they're going to go at it again in July, and now Cormier's got all this momentum on his side.
00:34:41.000And Daniel was trying to figure out what he thinks.
00:34:46.000He was like, do you give the guy more credit?
00:34:49.000We're doing damage for the first half of the round, or do you give the guy more credit for being able to control the guy and go after submissions for the second half of the round?
00:35:01.000Because the Masvidal-Damian Meyer fight, like one round of it, particularly the second round, is a really good case study and judging.
00:35:09.000And maybe athletic commissions should review that fight and say, hey, this fight's a really good example of a fight where...
00:35:18.000It's really subjective, and we have to kind of quantify what is more important.
00:35:22.000If you've got the exact same amount of time, but one thing hurt the guy and one thing didn't, does it go towards a kickboxer, or does it go towards the one half of the round where the guy was fighting off being strangled for every second of that two and a half minutes?
00:35:47.000On one side, I feel like Masvidal did more damage, and that should be worth something.
00:35:53.000But on the second part of it, Masvidal wasn't threatening at all once Maya got on his back.
00:36:01.000So once Maya got on his back, it's like, Jesus, man, this is a constrictor on top of you.
00:36:09.000And Masvidal did defend at one time, and at the end of one of the rounds, the first round, I believe, got Maya off his back and landed some good shots.
00:36:19.000Maya was trying to take him down and control him again.
00:36:53.000And he's clearly hitting Maia more than Maia's hitting him.
00:36:57.000So you have to assess, like, what's more threatening.
00:36:59.000Because when Maia's got you down, it's got your back, boy, there's a really high likelihood you're getting choked.
00:37:04.000But yet, Masvidal figured out a way to get out of that, so he should also get a little bit of credit for his great defense, but more credit should be to Maia's control and Maia's attacking and Maia's owning the position.
00:37:19.000Like, he pretty much controlled the position for a good chunk of that fight when he got the back or when he got him on the ground.
00:39:04.000If you're holding onto a guy or you're in a situation where you're just a few inches from him, you're not sure whether or not his hand is touching the ground, but you are sure you can fucking knee him in the head.
00:39:14.000A lot of times you're just going to go for that knee to the head.
00:39:47.000He goes, but I don't feel like it was bearing weight.
00:39:50.000He goes, you know, he's definitely playing the game and he definitely was putting his hands down, but I felt like the first time it wasn't bearing weight.
00:40:19.000It's gonna be a weird issue with referees that do events that have the new rules and then do events that have the old rules.
00:40:27.000And it's pretty much universally agreed that the new rules are the way to go.
00:40:31.000So with the touching of the hands on the mat, it's gonna be interesting to see if there's like an interpretation that favors Why weren't the new rules adopted for Texas last year?
00:41:27.000Because I think it encourages fighting more than it encourages stall techniques.
00:41:31.000So if you give someone a stall technique, like the ability to put your hands on the ground, you won't get knee in the face, you're going to take it.
00:41:55.000I don't think it really does protect people.
00:41:57.000I think the people that are going to get in need are going to get in need.
00:41:59.000I think what it does is it protects you for that brief moment, but in the decision that you make, To do that, you're making a purely defensive decision.
00:42:08.000You're putting your hands on the mat, both of them, so this guy can't knee you in the face.
00:42:17.000Sometimes you can rebound from a bad position, no doubt about it, but I don't think we should reward I don't think you should have these escape routes where someone can touch the mat and not be able to...
00:42:46.000I haven't read anything online, but I guarantee you it'll be controversial.
00:42:51.000I mean, it's just a hot-button subject, and people will be debating it back and forth, and there's going to be people that agree with Herb.
00:42:57.000There's gonna be people that disagree with him.
00:42:59.000But ultimately, that's the toughest job, next to being a fighter, in MMA. The guy who has to make those calls, and I give them a shit ton of respect, man.
00:43:10.000I used to be a baseball umpire for Little League, and that was hard.
00:44:07.000And sometimes you make bad calls and there's nothing you can do about it.
00:44:10.000I mean, in the early days, Big John McCarthy...
00:44:15.000Uh, was refereeing a fight between Matt Lindland and Murillo Bustamante, and Murillo Bustamante tapped Matt Lindland, and then Lindland said that he didn't tap.
00:44:25.000So they restarted the fight, and they went back at it again, and then Bustamante tapped him again a later round.
00:44:32.000So they tapped him twice in the same fight.
00:44:35.000When it happened, you were commentating?
00:46:42.000Again, I wish I knew what you guys were talking about over there because over there, I'm like, it's interesting...
00:46:48.000Because you're sort of watching the fight in arena, you're sort of like on an island by yourself when you're not, when you don't have a headset on, you can't hear you guys.
00:48:14.000I totally see him trying to make it look like that was one of their plans, make it look like Connor got me on the chin, let Connor overreact, and then mousetrap.
00:48:40.000Look, he's got such a giant advantage on the ground.
00:48:44.000Imagine if Nate Diaz became like a killer wrestler.
00:48:47.000Like, Nate Diaz is like, you know, Kevin Randleman back in the day, like, shooting these power doubles and getting dudes on the ground.
00:48:53.000Like, Nate Diaz's ground game is very high level, man.
00:48:56.000He's super nasty at mixing up strikes with his submissions, too.
00:49:00.000Like, what set up that submission, first of all, is the strikes on the feet, he popped Conor in the jaw, had him rocked, and then got him on the ground and was busting him up on the ground.
00:49:09.000And then Conor gave up his back trying to escape the mount.
00:49:51.000The Black Zillions, the American top team, have a giant rivalry with each other to the point where they had an ultimate fighter where the two teams faced off against each other for a whole season.
00:50:11.000But anyway, he said that it should be Nate Diaz going up against Floyd Mayweather, because Nate Diaz beat Conor McGregor, and I'm totally on that same wavelength where it's like, yeah, what are we talking about here?
00:50:23.000Like, I just want to see more of the Diaz brothers overall in anything.
00:51:47.000You're just more vulnerable to being taken down by a guy who's an elite MMA wrestler.
00:51:52.000And when I say MMA wrestler, I mean a guy who's used to catching kicks, understands where the kicks are coming, where they're coming from, knows when it's happening, there's no hesitation, dives on it, and takes you down.
00:53:07.000I think it makes it hard to get another shot at him, and I think it makes it easier to get another shot at him because we know that's a goddamn anomaly.
00:53:15.000I know we would all feel silly if, say, they did it again and he knocked them out in eight seconds and we're like, are you fucking kidding?
00:55:23.000I mean, we talked about this years ago on a podcast where I said, you know, I think more elements of pro wrestling in the UFC would do him justice because it just makes for entertainment.
00:55:35.000And since then, this Irishman has become a big deal, the Diaz brothers of these tough characters.
00:55:42.000We're starting to just find out more about the characters, and that's sort of what I meant.
00:55:47.000The entertainment part is a big side of the UFC, and it's a big side of boxing, and it's a big side of all of sports, and I think the UFC is really embracing that, and also having a little bit of trouble embracing it, but also embracing it.
00:56:02.000Well, I think they definitely embrace it, but you also have to respect the hierarchy of championship.
00:56:07.000Like the Amanda Nunes-Ronda Rousey thing.
00:56:10.000When they were doing that big promo and they were only featuring Ronda Rousey.
00:58:06.000Well, it's also interesting to see whether or not it's problematic to have a guy from the showbiz side of athletics, which there's no doubt about it, those pro wrestlers are fucking athletes.
00:58:29.000Like when Brock Lester did that 360 flip in the air and landed on his fucking head and still finished the match, like, okay, that's, if you like Cirque du Soleil and you think those people are athletes, for sure this motherfucker's a serious athlete.
00:58:43.000But there's also the fact that it's entertainment.
00:58:46.000So if a guy goes from that side of the business and then goes to the side of the business where it's supposed to be pure sport, which is the pure sport, MMA, right?
00:58:56.000A sport that has always had a reputation, or at least the whispers, of being fixed.
00:59:02.000You're always hearing about a fixed fight.
00:59:05.000Like in Japan in particular, you heard about a bunch of fixed fights.
00:59:08.000And there was a recent case where someone in the UFC had an offer to fix a fight, but didn't go through with it.
00:59:16.000But there was evidence, apparently, there was a big story about a couple of weeks ago about the first evidence that someone was attempting to fix a fight.
00:59:26.000So even though it didn't get fixed, someone had tried to put influence on someone to fix a fight, allegedly.
00:59:32.000But in Pride, we know for a fact it happened.
00:59:34.000I know firsthand from people that were in fixed fights.
00:59:39.000I know from people that were told that a fight was going to be fixed for them.
00:59:43.000So it's not speculation whether or not there was fights that have been fixed in the past.
00:59:49.000So to have a guy like Vince McMahon come over and run things, there would have to be a very clear delineation.
00:59:54.000I think he'd have at least really good ideas.
01:00:19.000That's why everybody hates that one guy, Roman Reigns, because he just keeps letting him win, which is like, for the first time, a storyline that we've never even heard of.
01:00:27.000Because the crowd hates this guy, but they keep letting him win.
01:00:31.000Nothing but booze, because we're like, fuck this guy, he sucks, we know you're going to let him win.
01:00:36.000It makes no sense, so he's fucking with us really good.
01:00:39.000But other than that guy, other than that exception, he listens to the crowd.
01:00:42.000And like, you know, I mean, it's just another perfect example, looking back at the Nunes-Ronda thing, looking at that analogy, he would have focused on the Diaz brothers, and he would have focused on Nate Waking up and smoking a joint and going for a run.
01:00:58.000Like, he would embrace that side of that storyline.
01:01:03.000That's what everybody's saying about, you know, the John Jones Cormier thing over at that presser is like, I did cocaine all weekend and beat you up.
01:01:15.000But the Diaz brothers have been running triathlons while drinking tequila and smoking joints.
01:01:47.000I like drinking at night with my friends and I think I still can get my work done and do all that and have fun and be productive and that's sort of where I connect with those guys.
01:02:40.000It's funny because, like, yeah, they go both ways to where it's like, yep, that's a He has a hilarious story about getting in a brawl in one of those things where people didn't know any better.
01:03:45.000All of a sudden, you're like, why is my knee sideways?
01:03:49.000What a crazy move to do in a street fight.
01:03:53.000He heel hooks you, tears your knee apart.
01:03:57.000That's what's interesting, you know, and not only that aspect, but so many more with those guys.
01:04:02.000It's like, yeah, and they also look like street fighters that They're gonna punch you in the face, but they're also greasy, high-level, black belt, you know, jujitsu super artists, right?
01:04:16.000Of the highest degree, so it's like, just because...
01:04:19.000And I think that helps them, that perception, like, psychologically.
01:04:23.000Like, it's like, you know, it makes you think, like, fuck this punk, but you're realizing that there's eloquent beauty coming at you in the art.
01:04:31.000It's just because they look one way...
01:04:34.000It's almost a distraction of like, it's almost like a Venus flytrap, how it's like all pretty and it's like, you know, the opposite, but it's like made to bring you in and then it just snaps by using its natural Element.
01:04:47.000Well, I think it's sort of reverse, where they sort of make you think they're punks, but they're not.
01:04:51.000They're smart as fuck, and it's a trap.
01:05:04.000And they're real technical, and they have crazy endurance and discipline, which is what's really weird about it, is how much discipline they have.
01:07:00.000And because of the bit, I've gotten to think about it a lot more and sort of analyze it a lot more and from different angles than just as I was as an MMA fan before.
01:07:09.000And really figure out what it is sort of behind it.
01:07:13.000I mean, not that I know more than anybody, but it's sort of like...
01:08:32.000I knew about his fights with Jeremy Jackson, who's this really talented striker that was on The Ultimate Fighter, but wound up getting in trouble.
01:13:29.000But the bit was that, like, you can talk about God you want, and all you want, and nobody freaks out.
01:13:37.000But if you start talking about the devil, people go, what?
01:13:40.000And the bit was that, like, George Bush can go...
01:13:44.000May God bless our troops in Afghanistan.
01:13:47.000And everybody goes, that's a beautiful sentiment.
01:13:50.000But if he says, we've located the devil, he's in Pakistan, he's in the mountains, and we are going to knock him out of existence, and evil will end on earth.
01:14:09.000Like, if someone was on TV and they started talking about the will of God, we wouldn't have a problem with it.
01:14:14.000But if they started talking about the devil having influence on all the events of the world and that we have to repent and we have to realize the Christian way is the only path to...
01:14:55.000And what if God is love and love that binds us together and creates everything that is life and all the building blocks of life and it's all this one...
01:15:04.000Infinite plan that's too complex for us to understand.
01:15:09.000I'll buy a non-secular or a secular God.
01:15:13.000But when you start talking about the devil, like an actual devil, like an actual demon that is tempting you into doing bad things, like come on, bitch.
01:15:36.000And it just goes to show you how silly religion is because it's like Three minutes into the video, for ten seconds, it's just like, Jesus is born!
01:16:11.000Like, I really need to, like, get a comprehensive, some sort of a book that'll give me, like, a great world history that's something that's easy to follow.
01:18:23.000There's a series of volcanoes in the middle of the ocean that are popping up, and there's more of them that are building up around it.
01:18:28.000There's like a museum that you can go to.
01:18:30.000They show you the history of Hawaii, how it was created, and they also show you the surrounding islands, and I guess it would be like lava vents or lava-like volcanoes that are underwater right now that are building up and eventually break the surface of the water.
01:18:47.000But they've actually spotted, I think, I can't remember what part, I think it was in the South Pacific, where they actually watched islands get born.
01:18:55.000They saw volcanic activity and were there while islands were breaking the surface of the water.
01:19:02.000Like, you can actually see it in some places.
01:19:04.000And I'm pretty sure they have video of it.
01:19:06.000You know, it's basically just breaching the surface of the water.
01:19:21.000I mean, maybe millions of years later, it flattens out again, or it becomes like Yellowstone, and it blows up, and the whole top pops off of it.
01:20:30.000When we first manipulated our environment, when we first figured out how to manipulate our environment, there's been a bunch of different stages of it.
01:20:38.000But one different stage of it was shelter.
01:20:42.000So the animals weren't picking off the soft ones.
01:20:45.000So people didn't get as hard as they were before they had shelter.
01:20:49.000They had some people that survived that maybe wouldn't have survived a few decades ago or a few generations ago or before they figured out caves.
01:21:19.000Well, it's a compromise, because in becoming softer and softer, we become smarter and smarter, right?
01:21:24.000Like, you don't associate Elon Musk with being the most shredded barbarian on Earth, right?
01:21:31.000No, you associate him with being a gentleman in a nice suit and a tie.
01:21:35.000He was a reasonable human body, right?
01:21:38.000But when you think about Like someone who's like just a super conqueror, like some Brock Lesnar type dude.
01:21:46.000You don't think of Brock Lesnar inventing some new way to manipulate traffic in Los Angeles to cut down commute time from Santa Monica to LAX to three minutes, going 130 miles an hour in a fucking sled underground.
01:22:14.000So it's like, as we become more and more civilized, and more and more innovative, figuring out new ways to stockpile food, we just get softer and softer and softer.
01:22:27.000So when something goes wrong, like, boom, a fucking volcano blows up, and you lose everything, and it's like, there's no sun anymore, you can't grow food anymore, you gotta go find things to eat in the woods, everybody dies.
01:22:42.000They got down to a few thousand people.
01:22:44.000And they say that it happens in North America every six to eight hundred thousand years, that Yellowstone just blows.
01:22:51.000You know, they didn't even know about this until satellites.
01:22:54.000When they had satellites, as soon as they started looking at images in the Yellowstone region, there was a theory of it being a caldera volcano.
01:23:03.000And then they confirmed it, that the whole Yellowstone, I guess they would call it a basin, the Yellowstone basin, Is really one giant crater from a volcano that was so big the top blows off and lava shoots like a mile out of the sky or some shit and it just blocks out everything.
01:23:20.000It's like the ultimate super earth zit.
01:25:50.000And the point is, I didn't know about him until I was a door guy at the store, and then all of a sudden somebody's like, Earthquake's popping in.
01:25:57.000And a pop-in at the comedy store, if you don't know, like, there's already a set lineup, so you have to be, like, a monster.
01:26:02.000Like, if Dave Chappelle comes in or Seinfeld, they're, like, they're poppin' in.
01:26:06.000But somebody's, like, earthquake's poppin' in.
01:26:07.000I'm like, what the fuck is an earthquake?
01:26:10.000But man, the other guy literally got that name because they said that when he used to perform in Atlanta, the ground would shake.
01:26:39.000That's nice when you run into someone like an earthquake or someone you respect and think they're really funny and they're cool as fuck too.
01:26:46.000That's, you know, one of the nicest things.
01:26:48.000And that's one thing, like comedians that don't have other comedian friends are always so weird to me.
01:26:55.000I only know a few of them, but they're so weird.
01:26:59.000I have a handful of non-comedian friends, and I see them very rarely.
01:28:28.000This is Eastman's bowhunting shirt they sent me.
01:28:31.000It's a bowhunting magazine and a podcast.
01:28:36.000Eastman's Elevated is this podcast that I listen to on bowhunting.
01:28:39.000And I was thinking about it, like these people that pursue it the way...
01:28:43.000This guy from the Eastman Elevated podcast, his name's Brian Barney, or the way Cam Haynes does it, or the way John Dudley does it, or Adam Greentree.
01:30:37.000The problem is in the morning, tell me if you feel like this, when you have to get up early in the morning and, like, take a flight, my brain literally works on, like, 30% of its capacity.
01:31:30.000It's one-third of your nutritional requirements.
01:31:33.000Really heavy in calories and like you want to take stuff like that stuff that's dense like take people take a lot of almond butter and peanut butter like healthy fats There's a company that I really like called fat fudge and they make this this woman she makes Mary she makes these Little packets,
01:32:26.000If you have a rifle, the rifle's heavy.
01:32:28.000And you're hiking, and you're going up these steep, steep hills, and you're doing it for many, many miles to try to get into position wherever the animals are.
01:32:35.000And if you're bow hunting, you know, you've got to do that, and then you have to draw your bow back, steady yourself, and execute a shot when you're holding your bow.
01:33:06.000Stand-up is one of the hardest things for your brain that you could do as far as, like, dealing with pressure.
01:33:12.000This is coming from someone who's, you know, I know you wrestled in high school, so you had some one-on-one competition that was nerve-wracking when you were young, and, you know, and I did a little bit of wrestling in high school, and then I fought in martial arts tournaments for a long time, and all those things are scary and nerve-wracking,
01:33:28.000but comedy is almost as scary, at least was, like doing it the first time.
01:33:35.000I was so scared the first time I did it.
01:34:14.000That means that everybody, including myself, is going on an hour later, plus the audience is drained, extra drained from watching one person do an hour when the rest of the show was fundamentally cut up for 15 minutes.
01:41:32.000It's one of the things they found about some of the early humans, when they found fossils and skulls and shit, they found that the inside of the skull had been scraped, which there was some speculation that maybe it was tools and sometimes...
01:41:46.000They looked at the scrape and going, this one looks like a raptor's claw.
01:41:50.000They'd think it was people that hadn't gotten killed by eagles.
01:41:53.000Like the early human beings were prey to larger birds.
01:50:06.000But when they pulled that state flag, or they pulled the Confederate flag, rather, off the General Lee, they pulled General Lee off, they don't have the Dukes of Hazzard on TV land anymore because of that flag.
01:54:51.000It's going to suck here, and then it's going to suck there, and then this guy's going to get killed with a baseball bat, and then this person's going to turn into a zombie, and you're going to have to watch this person get torn apart.
01:56:45.000Yeah, it's all weird, but it's a system that's been around for a long time, and it's just never been exposed in a drama the way it's been on this show.
01:56:55.000I mean, this show, like, they go so deep with it, and obviously the bunch of crazy shit, murders, all this nutty shit, but who knows, man?
01:57:02.000You look at some of the stuff that the Clintons are accused of, and some other presidents are accused of, and look at the Kennedy assassination, who the fuck knows what's really going on behind the scenes with these people.
01:57:12.000They definitely are colluding on some things.
01:57:15.000You know, they're definitely talking and coordinating things, and they're strategizing, and they definitely have plans.
01:57:23.000It's just to what extent does it really go?
01:57:25.000You know another great show that I can't wait for, I don't know when it comes back, Stranger Things on Netflix?
02:05:54.000And the cop's like, don't worry about it.
02:05:56.000And cut to the next day, our buddy, who ended up spending a little bit of time in jail that night defending us, me and my other little L.A. friend got to leave the Whataburger, but our buddy from Texas got in trouble.
02:06:10.000Our buddy from Texas the next day has his friend, who's the chief of police on speakerphone, We're sitting in the car, traveling back to California, and he's like, so what happened?
02:06:46.000But with that said, the guy with his Texas accent, you could tell he's wearing like a cowboy hat, chief of police, a couple of faggots, fighting at a Whataburger.
02:06:55.000And me and my buddy were having like a play argument at the time, like, you know, about whatever it was.
02:06:59.000We weren't, obviously we weren't fighting.
02:07:16.000We were literally having some, like, play fight about, like, it was like a play argument about, I can't remember, who knows what, you know, literally a couple of LA comedians excited to be on the road, probably opening for free for That is so funny.
02:07:31.000So you were just basically being comedians and being loud.
02:12:02.000She points, I mean, she stops in the middle of fights and looks over at you and points.
02:12:05.000I'm so glad that you finally started to notice this because one of the funny things is I've been sort of telling you, like, you thought I was crazy.
02:12:13.000Oh, no, it's definitely happening now.
02:12:14.000But a few fights ago, you literally thought, I could tell by the way you were looking at me.
02:17:34.000I like that music is kind of going along the same ways that stand-up is going.
02:17:39.000They're doing their own shit, and they're trying to do things independently.
02:17:44.000I had Shirley Manson on the other day from Garbage and she was kind of breaking down the music business and what it's like and how difficult it is to make money as a band today and how now music companies They take everything.
02:17:59.000They take a piece of your merchandise.
02:18:00.000They take a piece of your live touring.
02:18:32.000But what's weird is that they sell it, which they don't really sell it, but you need to have some of these big companies, you need to have like, it's the most bureaucratic bullshit you'll ever hear in your life.
02:18:43.000You would never put up with it for a second.
02:18:45.000You probably get to bypass it because you're obviously at the top of the game.
02:18:51.000They make a deal where they don't own their special?
02:21:13.000Yeah, when I made TV shows, man, I wrote some major Comedy Central shows, and the thing that shocked me the entire time, and I don't mean slight shock, I mean true shock, was the amazing waste of money.
02:23:41.000It's super hard to just step outside of yourself and look at your own opinions, look at someone else's opinions and go, hmm, who's right here?
02:23:50.000Because you automatically want to think that you're right.
02:23:52.000So you start out from the position that you're right.
02:23:56.000It's because we get attached to ideas, and ideas sort of become a part of you.
02:24:03.000It's you and your idea, all connected.
02:24:06.000And that's a real problem that a lot of people have with thinking.
02:24:09.000I've had it myself, and it's something that I've had to work really hard to push away, to knock out.
02:24:16.000You know, thinking and learning how to think is like one of the weirdest things because it's one of the most important parts of life but it's one of the few things that we discuss here in school.
02:24:27.000When you're in school, you're learning information.
02:24:33.000Are you learning how to look at yourself and look at your actions and how you treat others and how you treat yourself and what distractions you're throwing up in your life in order to deal with your...
02:24:50.000If you're not getting things done, if you're procrastinating, you're putting things off, if you have any addictions or things along those lines, you start creating all these problems in your life to distract yourself with.
02:25:01.000And they don't teach you about that in school.
02:25:09.000I was just thinking about this last night while I was smoking weed before going to bed.
02:25:14.000And I was thinking, somebody gave me a dirty look because I was blatantly just smoking a joint like it was a cigarette in front of that hotel.
02:28:25.000Where I'm from in Youngstown, I'm not making lazy excuses, but...
02:28:28.000Where I'm from, tons of people smoked, everybody smoked, and my parents smoked, and, you know, they both quit now, but when I was growing up, it was like, I thought my dad was cool as hell, this cool Italian guy, what up tone, and he'd light up a cigarette all cool,
02:28:43.000like a real Italian guy, with a Zippo and a pack of Marlboro lights, and he looked cool, and it And my favorite movie was Goodfellas my whole life, and everybody makes smoking look cool in that.
02:28:54.000Ray Leona, Robert De Niro, Joe Pesci, everybody's fucking smoking.
02:28:58.000They're selling cigarettes, eating pasta, taking the lobster out of the ice.
02:29:03.000Everything looks better in that movie.
02:29:06.000It is crazy that cigarettes are thought of as a cool thing.
02:29:10.000And it's also, there's a thing where you know that it's bad for you and you're doing it anyway because you don't give a fuck.
02:30:07.000I think that has a lot to do with my shitty environment coming up.
02:30:13.000And now that I'm used to doing everything with that crutch, I'm just trying to slowly retrain my brain and slowly create new habits and figure it all out.
02:30:25.000But I'm definitely going to quit here soon.