The Joe Rogan Experience - December 22, 2015


Joe Rogan Experience - UFC Recap - Brendan Schaub & Eddie Bravo


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 56 minutes

Words per Minute

211.44342

Word Count

37,281

Sentence Count

4,496

Misogynist Sentences

170

Hate Speech Sentences

86


Summary

In this episode, we recap UFC 246. We talk about the main event, UFC 246, UFC Fight Companion, and much more. Also, we talk about Alex Jones and his recent interview with Alex Jones on the Alex Jones Show. We also talk about how much we love Aubrey's music and how he is one of the most genuine people we know. We also get into the craziness that is Alex Jones, and we talk a little bit about Alex's background in jiu jitsu and conspiracy theories. We finish up the episode with a special guest appearance from the Honored Academy. We hope you enjoy this episode and stay tuned for the next one coming soon. Cheers! -The Guys Who Know Best -Joey and Aubrey Joe is a comedian, writer, podcaster, and podcaster. He has been a long time friend of mine and I am so excited to have him on the show. Joe and I have been friends since high school and we have grown really close over the past few years. He is a great guy and I hope you guys enjoy listening to this episode. We hope everyone enjoys it and enjoy it! Thank you so much for tuning in. Cheers. -Drew, Aubrey and Alex Alex Jones and the rest of the guys at The Honored Academia Thanks for listening and supporting the podcast. We appreciate you guys. We really appreciate you. We are looking forward to seeing you in the next episode of the podcast, we will see you soon. -Joe and the guys! -Aubrey and the boys at the UFC. XOXO! -Joe, Joe and the crew at Ten Planet A.P. . -Bobby and the team at Ten Pones -Josiah & the boys in the future! -Brujos - Joe and his family at the next show! - A.J. & the rest! -J.A. & Alyssa -A.M. & A.B. & his girlfriend, A.C. - B.S. and his girlfriend -S. -AUBREYANTHORA - AYO - JOSIE ( ) CHEERY & B. & JOSIA ( ) -JACOB ( ) and A. J. (A. B. ( )


Transcript

00:00:02.000 Yes!
00:00:02.000 We're live, ladies and gentlemen.
00:00:05.000 If you tune into this podcast and you're like, this is a regular podcast, right?
00:00:09.000 This is a UFC recap.
00:00:11.000 So if you fucking hate the UFC, you're like, oh my god, fucking hate UFC. It might be the podcast for you, though, because we don't know.
00:00:19.000 We might start talking about the UFC, and it could go anywhere.
00:00:23.000 It usually does.
00:00:23.000 These podcasts are like Fight Companion.
00:00:26.000 You always tell them that it's different and all that, but all the podcasts are the same.
00:00:30.000 It's the same shit.
00:00:31.000 It's all the same.
00:00:32.000 The last one, the last fight companion, we only talked about the main event for like 30 seconds.
00:00:37.000 Exactly.
00:00:38.000 The rest of the, we're talking about everything.
00:00:39.000 Sex and drugs and fucking friendship.
00:00:42.000 Then we go to the decision, oh, I got Darius.
00:00:45.000 You didn't even fucking I just started lying.
00:00:51.000 Well, I watched that UFC on Fox.
00:00:53.000 Oh my god, what a fucking card, first of all.
00:00:55.000 During the On It podcast.
00:00:58.000 Oh, you guys did a Fight Companion?
00:00:59.000 Yes.
00:01:00.000 Oh, that's a great idea.
00:01:01.000 People are doing that other Fight Companions, like other podcasts are doing Fight Companions.
00:01:05.000 It's awesome.
00:01:06.000 Why not?
00:01:06.000 It was Aubrey and his girlfriend.
00:01:09.000 Alex Jones did it.
00:01:10.000 He was there.
00:01:11.000 That's amazing.
00:01:12.000 Alex Jones was doing a fight companion with Aubrey and me.
00:01:15.000 That's amazing.
00:01:16.000 It was pretty crazy.
00:01:16.000 Goddamn, I gotta listen to that now.
00:01:18.000 I'm gonna go back and listen to that.
00:01:19.000 Dude, he is so impressed with...
00:01:22.000 You know, because we knew Aubrey before Ani.
00:01:24.000 Yeah.
00:01:24.000 You know, and to watch him blow the fuck.
00:01:28.000 It was pretty insane.
00:01:30.000 And I mean, I was blown away.
00:01:32.000 Because, for those of you that don't know, Ten Planet, Austin, we had a grand opening.
00:01:37.000 It's at the Honored Academy.
00:01:39.000 And man, I'd never been there when I was fucking floored, dude.
00:01:43.000 That place is gigantic, man.
00:01:45.000 It's incredible.
00:01:46.000 Yeah, Aubrey doesn't do anything half-assed.
00:01:48.000 He really puts his heart and soul in everything.
00:01:51.000 He's got a special knack for creating things and putting things together.
00:01:54.000 He's an executive producer, man.
00:01:56.000 He's good at it.
00:01:58.000 On everything, though.
00:01:59.000 You go to dinner, and it's like, I've never had a dinner like this.
00:02:02.000 I was on a boat, and there's just hoes everywhere.
00:02:04.000 I've never been on a boat like this.
00:02:06.000 For reals.
00:02:07.000 I'm like, dude, I've never been on a boat like this.
00:02:08.000 That's like Biggie Smalls type shit.
00:02:10.000 He's like, this is how we do it.
00:02:11.000 His playlist is from the heavens.
00:02:13.000 I'm like, can I have that playlist?
00:02:14.000 He's like, sure.
00:02:15.000 He's the best.
00:02:16.000 He's just an unusual dude.
00:02:18.000 He really is.
00:02:18.000 Very, very unusual dude.
00:02:20.000 Yeah, and so Alex wanted to do a piece on me because he's got people that work for him that do jujitsu.
00:02:25.000 Right.
00:02:25.000 And so Alex found out that I was going to be there and he decided to go down and interview.
00:02:30.000 Dude, he had an InfoWars mic.
00:02:32.000 Yes!
00:02:33.000 He's sitting next to me during the Invitational, during the tournament, which was fucking nuts!
00:02:38.000 And he's right there and Alex Jones is like, holy shit!
00:02:42.000 It's pretty crazy.
00:02:43.000 That is crazy.
00:02:44.000 And you know, he fell in love with jiu-jitsu.
00:02:47.000 He was there for the whole place, for the whole tournament, wanted to stay, stayed afterwards, stayed for the podcast.
00:02:53.000 He was there for hours with that InfoWars mic.
00:02:56.000 He wants to bring his daughters to jiu-jitsu.
00:02:59.000 He wants to do jiu-jitsu.
00:03:00.000 I hope he does.
00:03:02.000 He used to be ripped.
00:03:04.000 Do you ever see what he used to look like?
00:03:05.000 Dude, he was a stud.
00:03:07.000 He wants to get skinny and wiped again.
00:03:08.000 Why don't I know this guy?
00:03:09.000 Alex Jones infomercials.
00:03:11.000 Infowars infomercials.
00:03:12.000 He's the most popular conspiracy theorist.
00:03:14.000 He's like the...
00:03:15.000 Ah, yeah, I definitely wouldn't know him.
00:03:16.000 He runs...
00:03:18.000 Well, he used to be a radio DJ a long time ago.
00:03:20.000 He's still kind of doing radio, but now most of it is on the internet, but he does a lot of it, I guess, on, like, AM stations.
00:03:27.000 I still think he syndicated.
00:03:28.000 He does both, right?
00:03:29.000 He does, like, the radio part, and then he does...
00:03:31.000 Because the dirty part, the internet part, is when Joey came on.
00:03:35.000 And Joey was swearing.
00:03:36.000 You've seen that thing.
00:03:37.000 That's all on the internet.
00:03:38.000 That's only his internet version.
00:03:40.000 But he has a radio version, too.
00:03:42.000 I just get his app, and I just see him anytime.
00:03:44.000 He's out there, it's like 24 hours.
00:03:46.000 And he's just been out conspiracy theorists?
00:03:47.000 Yeah, he's a conspiracy theorist guy.
00:03:49.000 Like, heavy-duty, over-the-top.
00:03:50.000 But he's been...
00:03:51.000 I've known him, I've been friends with him since 99?
00:03:55.000 I did...
00:03:56.000 I did a comedy DVD in Austin.
00:03:59.000 He and I put on George W. Bush masks.
00:04:04.000 I was Bush younger, and he was Bush older.
00:04:08.000 He was Herbert Walker Bush, and I was George W. Bush.
00:04:10.000 Sounds awesome.
00:04:10.000 And we ran around the fucking Capitol building, like where the state Capitol is, in Austin, and filmed it.
00:04:17.000 It was just so retarded, so stupid.
00:04:19.000 Random shit.
00:04:19.000 I became friends with him back then.
00:04:21.000 So we've known him for 16 years now.
00:04:24.000 Yep.
00:04:24.000 I bet you and him just get balls deep in conspiracy theories.
00:04:29.000 We partied in Vegas one weekend.
00:04:31.000 Joe took him out to the UFC. He flew in.
00:04:34.000 You would think that he was like, dude, we're out partying.
00:04:37.000 Let's not talk about conspiracy theories.
00:04:39.000 He's ready to go all day.
00:04:43.000 He's got so much fucking information, man.
00:04:45.000 It's incredible.
00:04:46.000 Yeah, he's a funny dude.
00:04:48.000 I love that dude.
00:04:50.000 That dude is so cool.
00:04:51.000 I could sit there and hang out with him for hours.
00:04:54.000 Of course you could.
00:04:55.000 I think people get the wrong impression.
00:04:56.000 He's a genuinely good guy.
00:04:58.000 He's a really good guy.
00:04:59.000 I'm sure.
00:05:00.000 He's not just a fucking crazy wacko.
00:05:02.000 Everybody thought he was crazy back in the day, but even the last time Joe was on his show on the phone, you said, man, all that stuff that people were accusing you of being crazy about, all that shit is coming true, Alex.
00:05:15.000 You said that on the radio.
00:05:16.000 Like the NSA stuff?
00:05:17.000 He was the first one.
00:05:18.000 He was saying a long time ago that the NSA was going to be monitoring everyone's phone calls and was going to be recording everything you do.
00:05:25.000 People thought he was not true.
00:05:26.000 They were like, you're out of your mind.
00:05:28.000 There's no way that's going to happen.
00:05:29.000 Also, one of the big ones that I found out from him was he had this...
00:05:33.000 This video called 9-1-1 The Road to Tyranny, I think it's called.
00:05:37.000 And a lot of it was about agent provocateurs.
00:05:39.000 And what it's about is how they would go into a peaceful protest and they would send these people, whether they were cops or soldiers, whoever the fuck they were, they were in government-issue boots and they would send them into these peaceful protests.
00:05:51.000 They would wear masks and they would just start smashing things.
00:05:55.000 So they would pretend that they were a part of the protest.
00:05:57.000 So they'd go into protest, they'd smash storefronts, they'd smash car windows, create havoc, then the cops would move in, and in the case of the World Trade Organization, these agent provocateur guys, these guys that got hired to go in and start smashing shit, they all went into a house and waited.
00:06:15.000 And then the cops waited outside.
00:06:16.000 They all negotiated.
00:06:17.000 Nobody rushed in and took these people.
00:06:18.000 And then they eventually let them all go.
00:06:20.000 There was some sort of behind-the-scenes conversation.
00:06:23.000 But when they did it, they stopped the entire protest.
00:06:27.000 They made it a protest-free zone.
00:06:28.000 And they were literally, and this is all on the news, they were literally telling people you couldn't go in there with a badge on.
00:06:33.000 If you had a badge that said WTO on it with a line through it, they were telling people you can't have that badge on as you go on your way to work.
00:06:42.000 Jesus.
00:06:42.000 You're not allowed to protest.
00:06:44.000 It was a protest-free zone.
00:06:45.000 All because of these government agents.
00:06:47.000 Now, I thought, like, there's no way the government actually does that.
00:06:50.000 But it turns out, once I read that, or once I watched it, then I started reading about it.
00:06:53.000 And it's a common tactic.
00:06:55.000 They've done it forever.
00:06:56.000 It's a technique.
00:06:56.000 It's a technique.
00:06:56.000 It's just like, there's...
00:06:58.000 A bunch of CIA whistleblowers, ex-CIA agents.
00:07:01.000 John Stockwell, for once, a YouTube search, John Stockwell, he's written books.
00:07:06.000 He says that it's just techniques.
00:07:08.000 The way they set people up, the way they create patsies, they'll bring in some crazy, extreme, radical people, and they go, okay, you want to be in the CIA? Help us out.
00:07:17.000 And they set them up.
00:07:19.000 They got these dumb people that they What they'll do is, exactly what Joe said, they'll get professionals to go in there, cause some shit, kill people.
00:07:34.000 I'm not making this up.
00:07:34.000 This is what John Stockwell says.
00:07:36.000 They go in there, and the more people they kill, the more effective it is actually.
00:07:40.000 So what they'll do is they'll take professional dudes that go in there and take people out, and then they'll put their patsy in there, boom, blame them, put some shit on the fucking media, they run the media anyways, and then they shoot the patsies.
00:07:52.000 We got them, some crazy people.
00:07:53.000 Lee Harvey Oswald.
00:07:54.000 Exactly.
00:07:55.000 That's the Lee Harvey Oswald story.
00:07:57.000 Lee Harvey Oswald was an idiot.
00:07:58.000 Yeah.
00:07:58.000 I mean, he's definitely an idiot.
00:08:00.000 He went to Russia.
00:08:01.000 They set him up the whole time.
00:08:03.000 He's a knucklehead.
00:08:03.000 They set him up the whole time.
00:08:05.000 That guy was a knucklehead.
00:08:06.000 He was involved.
00:08:06.000 We are balls deep in conspiracy theories.
00:08:08.000 We are already.
00:08:09.000 I like it.
00:08:10.000 Brendan, Brendan.
00:08:11.000 He's getting ramped up, though.
00:08:12.000 Look at him.
00:08:13.000 You know what it is?
00:08:14.000 I get scared when he goes off.
00:08:15.000 Hey, Brendan.
00:08:16.000 Look at his face.
00:08:16.000 He doesn't even listen to us.
00:08:18.000 No, you're...
00:08:21.000 No, because when we mentioned Alex Jones and you'd never heard of him, and then when we said he was a famous conspiracy theorist, you say, oh, that's why I don't know Mike.
00:08:28.000 No, it's just because he doesn't get into that shit.
00:08:31.000 Yeah, I'm not into that stuff.
00:08:32.000 Powerful Alex Jones.
00:08:33.000 Oh shit!
00:08:33.000 Still don't know him.
00:08:34.000 What I was going to say, Eddie, when you were on your rant, is most people, they only know him from his broadcast, so they assume that he's just like a crazy guy who just is constantly looking for conspiracies everywhere.
00:08:45.000 When you hang with him in person, he's like a super nice guy.
00:08:48.000 He's a great guy.
00:08:48.000 He's super sweet.
00:08:50.000 He's fun.
00:08:50.000 He just doesn't shut up.
00:08:51.000 I don't know the guy.
00:08:55.000 Hey, Brendan, all conspiracy theories are the way shit really is.
00:09:01.000 The way shit really is run.
00:09:02.000 Well, not every one of them.
00:09:03.000 Not every one of them.
00:09:04.000 The problem is everybody looks for them.
00:09:06.000 Just because not every conspiracy theory or rumor or whatever is true, does that mean you just forget about the other ones?
00:09:14.000 No, not at all.
00:09:15.000 No, it doesn't, but there's something unbalanced about only looking for them.
00:09:19.000 Like, I know dudes that all they care about is conspiracies, and they're so exhausting.
00:09:24.000 Again, conspiracy theories are theories on how shit really is run.
00:09:29.000 Some people really like to know how their life, everything that these conspiracies, theories...
00:09:37.000 All of them affect our lives every day, and so when you think about it like that, and you start thinking about it, my life, this life, has a big effect on my life with stuff like 9-11, and all these events, like these shootings,
00:09:52.000 all these false flag events, our lives are affected.
00:09:55.000 Wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:09:56.000 What shootings do you think are false flag events?
00:09:58.000 Oh, man.
00:09:59.000 You're talking about sand?
00:10:01.000 You're talking about mass shootings on TV? Like the school shooting?
00:10:03.000 You know what?
00:10:04.000 The teacher got fired for saying that.
00:10:06.000 Listen, to question, we already know they're all crooks.
00:10:09.000 We know how they set up.
00:10:10.000 Who's all crooks?
00:10:12.000 The people that are really running shit.
00:10:14.000 Okay, let's talk about Fox.
00:10:18.000 We're going down this weird road.
00:10:19.000 Okay, they're not crooks.
00:10:20.000 Okay, I take that back.
00:10:21.000 Some of them are crooks.
00:10:22.000 Some are, yeah.
00:10:23.000 The people that have all the power.
00:10:26.000 We generally are crooks.
00:10:27.000 Not every single one.
00:10:28.000 Not every single one, of course.
00:10:30.000 We're talking in general terms.
00:10:31.000 Even if they're not crooks, one of the things that you'll find in government is they'll make laws that don't make any fucking sense and that are evil.
00:10:37.000 And then they abide by those laws.
00:10:39.000 To benefit them, correct?
00:10:40.000 Yeah.
00:10:40.000 There's a lot of crazy...
00:10:41.000 Financial gain.
00:10:42.000 Here's a good one.
00:10:42.000 The Supreme Court passed a ruling that allowed...
00:11:00.000 That's insane.
00:11:01.000 Well, it's nuts that they're allowed to spend any money.
00:11:03.000 How about that?
00:11:04.000 It should be the opposite.
00:11:05.000 It should be a person should be thought of as a person.
00:11:08.000 An individual should be thought of as an individual.
00:11:10.000 And a corporation should be thought of as a soulless entity, a group where people get together and work.
00:11:16.000 It should never be thought of as an individual, like one thing that can act in its own interest, like it's alive.
00:11:22.000 To stay alive, it's going to bribe people to make sure it has the cushiest rules and regulations.
00:11:27.000 So in that sense, yeah, those guys are crooks.
00:11:30.000 Like, that's a crook move.
00:11:31.000 You know what I started watching?
00:11:32.000 It's really fucking good.
00:11:34.000 Walking Dead.
00:11:34.000 House of Cards.
00:11:36.000 I heard it's really good.
00:11:37.000 It's fucking good.
00:11:37.000 My brother loves that show.
00:11:37.000 You would love it.
00:11:38.000 You would love it.
00:11:39.000 Because it's all about the president, and this guy becomes president.
00:11:43.000 No spoiler alert.
00:11:44.000 Kevin Spacey.
00:11:45.000 And then you find out all the inner workings.
00:11:47.000 And I was like, I'm not into politics.
00:11:49.000 It's like watching a fixed game of baseball.
00:11:52.000 It's boring to me.
00:11:54.000 It makes me angry.
00:11:55.000 It makes me angry that these are our candidates.
00:11:56.000 It makes me angry.
00:11:57.000 There's no one that's really saying something that really resonates with me.
00:12:00.000 Everyone's saying something that's inside the parameters of the system.
00:12:03.000 I agree.
00:12:04.000 So they do this show and Kevin Spacey plays the president.
00:12:10.000 He shows all the inner workings of like how deals are made and how they negotiate and all the behind-the-scenes stuff.
00:12:15.000 That sounds dope.
00:12:16.000 It's fascinating.
00:12:17.000 It's fucking good because it's really good.
00:12:19.000 Good writing.
00:12:20.000 I keep hearing that.
00:12:20.000 I keep hearing that.
00:12:22.000 You would love it and I had to bring it up because I knew you would love it.
00:12:25.000 Not a CIA stuff?
00:12:26.000 All sorts of crazy, deep, dark, undercover shit.
00:12:29.000 You would love it.
00:12:30.000 You would love it.
00:12:30.000 You'd go crazy.
00:12:31.000 And you know, probably a lot of it is the case.
00:12:34.000 Like, who the fuck knows, man?
00:12:35.000 Who the fuck knows?
00:12:36.000 Maybe they paid Nate Diaz to go off on Fox.
00:12:38.000 Maybe there's a conspiracy there.
00:12:41.000 That was brilliant.
00:12:41.000 Maybe his manager got together with the UFC. What is everyone talking about?
00:12:45.000 Diaz.
00:12:46.000 We're not talking about Dos Anjos.
00:12:48.000 We're not talking about Overeem.
00:12:50.000 We're talking about Nate Diaz.
00:12:51.000 That was where I was conflicted.
00:12:53.000 As a broadcaster, I'm so conflicted.
00:12:55.000 As a Nate Diaz fan, and as a comedian, and as a fellow marijuana advocate, I was fucking howling.
00:13:03.000 I wanted to go, yes!
00:13:04.000 Keep going!
00:13:05.000 Keep going!
00:13:05.000 They're fucking screaming in my ear.
00:13:08.000 Screaming in my ear.
00:13:09.000 Cut him off!
00:13:09.000 Cut him off!
00:13:10.000 Take the mic away!
00:13:11.000 Cut him off!
00:13:12.000 That was the best post-fight speech ever, right?
00:13:14.000 I am not about to cut him off.
00:13:15.000 I'm not doing it.
00:13:16.000 It was great.
00:13:16.000 I'm not pulling that mic away.
00:13:18.000 I'm not being the man.
00:13:19.000 I love it.
00:13:19.000 They were fucking screaming in my ear to shut him off my mic.
00:13:22.000 Oh, I can't imagine.
00:13:22.000 You're gonna have to fire me.
00:13:24.000 I'm not fucking taking the mic away from him.
00:13:25.000 Whose idea was it to let him even get on the mic?
00:13:27.000 Me!
00:13:28.000 Everybody!
00:13:29.000 You do!
00:13:29.000 He won!
00:13:30.000 He won and he looked amazing!
00:13:32.000 I agree, he looked amazing, but we know it's fucking Nate Diaz!
00:13:35.000 If I'm Fox, I'm like, alright, you can interview whoever you want.
00:13:39.000 Don't give Diaz the fucking mic!
00:13:40.000 I figure they talked to him.
00:13:43.000 Listen, he had a great fight.
00:13:44.000 I thought he was going to be chill.
00:13:45.000 I thought he was going to talk about Michael Johnson.
00:13:47.000 I didn't know he was going to talk about Conor.
00:13:49.000 I thought he was going to be chill.
00:13:50.000 Dude, this is how badass Conor McGregor is.
00:13:52.000 Three fighters called him out.
00:13:54.000 Three dudes.
00:13:54.000 Three fighters.
00:13:56.000 Three!
00:13:57.000 You see his reply?
00:13:58.000 Get on your knees and beg!
00:14:00.000 He's standing in front of a convertible Rolls Royce.
00:14:02.000 So gangster!
00:14:04.000 I love it.
00:14:05.000 He's so gangster.
00:14:06.000 That's the fight, though.
00:14:08.000 Diaz is the fight.
00:14:10.000 Well, it's a very good fight.
00:14:11.000 If I'm Dana White, I'm not saying what's the right thing to do.
00:14:14.000 I'm saying if I'm looking for the biggest show, the biggest numbers, Diaz.
00:14:19.000 Can you imagine that world tour?
00:14:20.000 What the fuck?
00:14:21.000 And it's his first fight at 155, so he can sell that.
00:14:24.000 Look at this.
00:14:25.000 Line them up with their hands out.
00:14:27.000 On their knees with their hands out.
00:14:29.000 I want them to beg me.
00:14:30.000 In front of a phantom sun.
00:14:32.000 That's a phantom convertible sun.
00:14:34.000 That's about $400,000 for the car.
00:14:38.000 Damn, dude.
00:14:39.000 Damn.
00:14:42.000 This guy is so fucking unusual.
00:14:46.000 He's so unusual.
00:14:47.000 Three dudes called him out.
00:14:48.000 But it's so crazy that in MMA, it took, what, 15 fucking years of MMA popularity?
00:14:55.000 I mean, MMA's 20, what is it, 22 years old now?
00:14:59.000 What is it?
00:15:00.000 When did it start?
00:15:01.000 93, right?
00:15:02.000 So it's 22 years, right?
00:15:03.000 That's not 22 years?
00:15:04.000 We're both retarded.
00:15:05.000 Almost 24. Okay, so let's think about that.
00:15:08.000 In that time, in the past, I'd say it's been really popular since the early 2000s, maybe?
00:15:14.000 Not really, right?
00:15:15.000 Okay, let's give it 10 years.
00:15:17.000 So in 10 years of real popularity, this is the first guy that emerges like this.
00:15:22.000 This first...
00:15:24.000 Like, superstar, besides Brock Lesnar.
00:15:27.000 Brock Lesnar was pretty much a superstar, but it was a different thing.
00:15:29.000 He was like a superstar coming over from the wrestling, so he just carried all those fans over that wanted to see if he could do it.
00:15:35.000 And plus, you look at him, you go, Jesus fucking Christ.
00:15:38.000 Like, that's the guy that you would have...
00:15:39.000 When you think of cage fighting, you would think of a guy who looks like that.
00:15:42.000 He's got a sword tattooed on his chest.
00:15:43.000 I agree.
00:15:44.000 I mean, what the...
00:15:44.000 It's not the best sword.
00:15:46.000 It's not a good one.
00:15:46.000 Whoever did that's an asshole.
00:15:48.000 I love him.
00:15:50.000 Right when he left, like, you gotta see this dick I put on Lesnar's chest.
00:15:53.000 It's great.
00:15:53.000 Yeah.
00:15:54.000 But Conor, there's never been a dude, like, that just, all of a sudden, everyone's talking about him.
00:15:58.000 Everyone's captivated.
00:16:00.000 I agree.
00:16:00.000 And he pulls it off.
00:16:01.000 That's the craziest shit.
00:16:02.000 He goes, I'm not gonna...
00:16:03.000 He bet Dana White that he would knock out Chad Mendes inside of four rounds.
00:16:09.000 He wanted to bet three million dollars.
00:16:10.000 He called the round.
00:16:11.000 He said second round.
00:16:12.000 Yeah, he said second round.
00:16:13.000 What the fuck?
00:16:14.000 Well, it's the same thing he did with Aldo.
00:16:16.000 He said he was gonna knock him out inside of two minutes.
00:16:18.000 We laugh at it.
00:16:19.000 It's crazy.
00:16:20.000 It's like, come on.
00:16:20.000 I told Dustin Poirier, first world-class opponent.
00:16:23.000 He's going, I'm going to knock you out in the first round.
00:16:25.000 It's crazy, man.
00:16:25.000 And everybody's like, what?
00:16:26.000 Meanwhile, crack.
00:16:28.000 But there's some monster fights out there waiting for him.
00:16:30.000 I just think, if I'm Conor McGregor's manager and I'm doing what's best for his career...
00:16:35.000 Frankie's a tough fight.
00:16:37.000 I'm not saying he can't win it.
00:16:37.000 Frankie's a very tough fight, and Dos Anjos is the toughest fight.
00:16:42.000 But then you got Diaz in the middle at 55. Huge payday.
00:16:46.000 Great matchup style for Conor.
00:16:48.000 That's the fight I take.
00:16:49.000 First of all, how good did Nate Diaz look physically?
00:16:52.000 Best we've seen him look ever.
00:16:54.000 Shredded.
00:16:54.000 Full six-pack, looked in tremendous shape, and didn't even come close to winning in that fight.
00:17:00.000 I mean, they were throwing down in that fight.
00:17:02.000 Johnson was beat.
00:17:04.000 He got beat inside the cage.
00:17:05.000 If you listen to his corner, they go, don't quit.
00:17:09.000 Stick with it.
00:17:10.000 Don't quit.
00:17:11.000 They're screaming at him.
00:17:12.000 Don't quit.
00:17:12.000 What the fuck?
00:17:14.000 Henry Hoof says that sometimes to guys.
00:17:15.000 He yelled that out to Rumble.
00:17:18.000 When Rumble was getting beat up by DC, he was yelling, don't quit.
00:17:22.000 Don't quit.
00:17:23.000 That is not what you need to hear.
00:17:26.000 Maybe someone needs to talk to him.
00:17:28.000 He's a fucking fantastic kickboxing coach, but you can't even put that out there.
00:17:32.000 That was never in my coach's vocabulary.
00:17:34.000 You can't put that out there.
00:17:36.000 You can't put that out there.
00:17:36.000 Do I look like I'm about to quit?
00:17:37.000 He probably can't help it because it's probably what he's thinking.
00:17:41.000 He's probably thinking, don't quit.
00:17:43.000 True.
00:17:46.000 When Michael Johnson in that fight, you could see he was starting to break, and then he was sitting right in front of him, just eating one twos.
00:17:51.000 When Nate was popping him and then doing this, going, oh shit, I just rang your bell.
00:17:56.000 He's just standing in front of him.
00:17:57.000 He goes, oh shit.
00:17:58.000 And he's pointing right at his face.
00:18:00.000 You could see Michael Johnson was like, I can't even believe this is happening.
00:18:03.000 Because he shouldn't be there.
00:18:04.000 He shouldn't be standing in front of him.
00:18:05.000 He's so athletic.
00:18:05.000 He should be using angles, using his wrestling.
00:18:07.000 He did none of it.
00:18:08.000 I think people underestimated Nate Diaz.
00:18:10.000 That's what I think.
00:18:11.000 Horrible idea.
00:18:12.000 But he was an underdog in that fight.
00:18:13.000 Like a pretty good underdog.
00:18:14.000 Idiots.
00:18:15.000 Again, idiots.
00:18:15.000 I just don't think anybody who made the line went and watched him train.
00:18:19.000 If you see what a good shape he was in and how good his hands looked, Jesus Christ.
00:18:23.000 That's as good as he's ever looked.
00:18:24.000 But before he fell out of the rankings, what was he, five?
00:18:26.000 Before he took all that time off?
00:18:27.000 Yeah, but Dos Anjos beat the shit out of him a year ago.
00:18:30.000 Beat the brakes off him.
00:18:31.000 Yeah.
00:18:32.000 One of the things that I was thinking about was how heavy he stands on that front leg.
00:18:36.000 You know, he stands real heavy on that front leg.
00:18:38.000 And Dos Anjos just lightened that leg up.
00:18:40.000 Correct.
00:18:40.000 And he was lighting that leg up.
00:18:41.000 Because Nate fights southpaw, right?
00:18:43.000 And Dos Anjos fights southpaw.
00:18:45.000 So it opens him up to that back leg kick and he was just chewing up the outside of that fucking front leg.
00:18:50.000 Connor would definitely be the favorite if they fight.
00:18:53.000 It's a great fight though.
00:18:54.000 The shit talking.
00:18:55.000 Imagine the shit talking.
00:18:57.000 Because Connor's not going to be able to go up to Nate Diaz and go...
00:19:01.000 No.
00:19:02.000 He's not going to be able to do that.
00:19:03.000 But that might be a problem because Nate Diaz might actually punch him in the mouth.
00:19:07.000 There's no way Nate Diaz is going to allow that.
00:19:10.000 He'll spit on him.
00:19:12.000 He'll wait for him in front of his fucking door in the morning.
00:19:16.000 He'll find out what room he's in and he'll wait in front of the door and punch him in the face when he goes to get breakfast.
00:19:21.000 Connor is so brilliant.
00:19:36.000 It won't work on Diaz though.
00:19:37.000 I don't know what'll work and what won't work, but I'll tell you what, no one has gotten Nate more emotional, or no one has gotten Cowboy more emotional than Nate.
00:19:46.000 When Cowboy started shit-talking Nate, knocked his hat, or rather, when Nate started shit-talking Cowboy and knocked his hat off, was getting in his face, you could tell it was fucking with Cowboy's, like, his mind.
00:19:57.000 He was really emotionally wrapped up in the first round of that fight.
00:20:00.000 He talked about it, he's like, I'll never let that happen again.
00:20:02.000 He's like, I got inside my head, I fucked up.
00:20:05.000 But it's the fact that Nate can do that to you.
00:20:08.000 He's not going to do it to Conor.
00:20:10.000 I wonder what it would be like to watch.
00:20:13.000 It's fucking epic!
00:20:14.000 That's why we need this fight.
00:20:15.000 The greatest show would be just Nate Diaz and Conor McGregor.
00:20:19.000 Just give him 30 minutes, have like a mediator a little bit and just kind of just let him go.
00:20:24.000 You'd have to have like Overeem and Ben Rothwell in between them.
00:20:27.000 Yeah, for real.
00:20:28.000 Just monsters.
00:20:29.000 Just two big gorillas and let them talk.
00:20:32.000 Tell Ben Rothwell and Overeem, look, you got a big bonus coming to you.
00:20:35.000 Give them that Reebok money, son.
00:20:37.000 Double the Reebok money.
00:20:39.000 They would for sure fight.
00:20:40.000 Just don't let them kill each other.
00:20:41.000 Double Reebok for both of you.
00:20:43.000 How about, but Nate wants to fight.
00:20:45.000 You just put them in a cage.
00:20:46.000 You just put a fucking fence right there and just let them talk.
00:20:50.000 You gotta somehow or another make it so they can't hit each other.
00:20:54.000 You gotta say, listen, boys, there is millions of dollars on the line here.
00:20:57.000 You have security.
00:20:57.000 No, you put a fence.
00:20:58.000 You put a fence up and put them on either side of the fence and just let them go.
00:21:01.000 No, that would be fucking crazy.
00:21:04.000 It's not a bad idea.
00:21:07.000 Can you imagine the marketing?
00:21:08.000 Can you imagine the marketing?
00:21:09.000 You have four badass security guards, all black, standing between them while they're talking.
00:21:14.000 No, you don't need to.
00:21:15.000 No, all black.
00:21:16.000 Black uniforms.
00:21:17.000 Easy, easy.
00:21:17.000 I thought I meant black guys.
00:21:18.000 I don't care.
00:21:19.000 How about Hawaiians?
00:21:19.000 Can we get some Hawaiians?
00:21:21.000 Big guys?
00:21:21.000 Big Samoan looking?
00:21:22.000 Big Samoans just will fucking snatch them in half.
00:21:25.000 Those are the scariest ones because they don't get hurt.
00:21:27.000 I agree.
00:21:28.000 You can't really hurt them.
00:21:29.000 It's like Mark Hunt.
00:21:31.000 How about you put him on a phone like in a prison?
00:21:34.000 How about you put him on a phone like they're in a prison, you know what I mean, with a glass and they just talk to each other on the fucking phone?
00:21:39.000 That's not a bad idea.
00:21:41.000 It's a prison glass shit.
00:21:42.000 That is actually a good idea.
00:21:44.000 Eddie Bravo with two strong ideas in a row for marketing.
00:21:48.000 I don't know if you can market the prison glass.
00:21:50.000 You know why?
00:21:51.000 Because you're the only one that's not high here.
00:21:54.000 Me and Eddie, we're on the same level.
00:21:58.000 I'm feeling his ideas.
00:22:00.000 Can you imagine him screaming at the fucking phone?
00:22:02.000 Can you imagine Nate Diaz going, fuck you!
00:22:05.000 Stockton!
00:22:05.000 Fuck you!
00:22:07.000 Fox is going to go, yeah, let's fucking...
00:22:10.000 Joey Diaz would be the host.
00:22:12.000 That'd be brilliant.
00:22:13.000 Come on!
00:22:15.000 How would Joey Diaz start off the show?
00:22:17.000 Oh my god.
00:22:18.000 That would be hilarious.
00:22:20.000 Dude, but Diaz wants this big fight because he's getting paid 20 and 20. Is that real?
00:22:26.000 That's real.
00:22:27.000 Are we sure?
00:22:28.000 I'm positive.
00:22:29.000 That doesn't make any sense.
00:22:30.000 I saw the payouts at the commission.
00:22:31.000 Now, he might have undisclosed bonus, but as far as contractually that we know, it's 20 and 20. Now, I'm not blaming the UFC. Hopefully he's not in the tough contract.
00:22:42.000 That's bad management, though.
00:22:44.000 That's horrible management.
00:22:44.000 As big of a star as he is, that motherfucker should be getting at least 120 and 120 a fight.
00:22:49.000 Yeah, I agree.
00:22:50.000 And more than that, probably.
00:22:51.000 Well, that's why he didn't fight for a while.
00:22:52.000 Nate Diaz is a giant star.
00:22:54.000 Let me tell you this.
00:22:55.000 When he went out into that arena, they went fucking crazy.
00:22:59.000 That crowd went fucking crazy.
00:23:01.000 When Nate Diaz was raising his arms after every round, they went fucking crazy.
00:23:06.000 Who are we talking about?
00:23:07.000 Think about all the stars on the card.
00:23:08.000 Who's the number one most clicked guy right now?
00:23:12.000 That one guy.
00:23:13.000 Well, his performance, first of all, was outstanding against a guy in Michael Johnson who's an up-and-coming lightweight who's been really on a tear.
00:23:22.000 Michael Johnson's looked fantastic.
00:23:23.000 I thought his fight with Benil Dariush was kind of a questionable decision.
00:23:27.000 He probably should have won it, yeah.
00:23:28.000 Maybe.
00:23:29.000 You could see it.
00:23:30.000 Maybe that way.
00:23:30.000 I'm a Darius fan.
00:23:31.000 Good fight.
00:23:32.000 I'm a big Darius fan.
00:23:33.000 Yeah, he's a monster.
00:23:33.000 Benil Darius is a bad motherfucker, but a fight is a fight, right?
00:23:36.000 I agree.
00:23:37.000 And why didn't Nate Diaz get that knee bar at the end?
00:23:39.000 He fucking had it.
00:23:41.000 No, time was over, bro.
00:23:43.000 All you need is one fucking second.
00:23:45.000 No, no, no.
00:23:46.000 Time was totally over.
00:23:47.000 Totally over.
00:23:47.000 When he extended it, it was after the buzzer.
00:23:49.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:23:49.000 He grabbed it, and then the buzzer went, and he extended it after the buzzer.
00:23:52.000 Johnson just let him have it.
00:23:53.000 He was saying, I had your knee, or something like that.
00:23:56.000 He's like, fuck with him.
00:23:56.000 The bell was way over, homie.
00:23:58.000 I don't know about that.
00:23:59.000 No, no, no.
00:23:59.000 Trust me.
00:24:00.000 We watched it.
00:24:01.000 We watched it in the truck over and over again.
00:24:03.000 It definitely was...
00:24:04.000 And then he was all...
00:24:06.000 I love it!
00:24:07.000 Because I was like, why did Johnson kick him?
00:24:09.000 And then I saw another angle.
00:24:11.000 The way I'm looking at him, I'm looking at them from eye height, right?
00:24:14.000 So where my eyes are, that's where their body is on the other side of the cage.
00:24:18.000 I couldn't see the knee bar.
00:24:19.000 And I'm like, why would Michael Johnson kick him after the fight is over?
00:24:22.000 And then I saw the whole thing.
00:24:24.000 I go, oh, he deserved it.
00:24:28.000 100%.
00:24:28.000 But he didn't hurt him.
00:24:29.000 I think he was just fucking with him even further.
00:24:31.000 Yeah, man.
00:24:32.000 He was having a good time.
00:24:33.000 Look, we're all talking about him, but I wonder if you can get fined.
00:24:38.000 By the commission?
00:24:40.000 100%.
00:24:40.000 Well, the FCC. I was asking someone online about this today.
00:24:46.000 Because it's like radio.
00:24:48.000 There's rules now, and I think a lot of them got passed after Howard Stern.
00:24:53.000 Because what happened with Howard Stern was, Howard Stern, he got fined for questionable subject matter, which is fucking insane.
00:25:01.000 And it was one of the weirdest moments in free speech time, because really everybody should have stood up and said something about it.
00:25:09.000 I mean, every fucking magazine should have been talking about what a travesty it is, that you're trying to stop a show that's on the radio, that anybody could turn one way or the other, and he's not even swearing.
00:25:18.000 He's playing within your rules.
00:25:19.000 But for subject matter they were finding them like huge money.
00:25:23.000 What was the subject matter?
00:25:24.000 Farts?
00:25:24.000 Whatever, you talk about whatever.
00:25:25.000 Anything sexual or anything they felt was offensive, they were getting them on subject matter.
00:25:31.000 Super weird rules.
00:25:32.000 Like you can say dick, but if I say I put my dick in your mouth, you can't find.
00:25:37.000 Do you know you can say Jesus, but if you say Jesus Christ, You're not supposed to say Jesus Christ.
00:25:42.000 Like, there was a tennis match where one of the kids, there was like two people playing tennis, and one of them had to forfeit the match because they said Jesus Christ when they missed.
00:25:53.000 Jesus Christ.
00:25:54.000 Exactly.
00:25:55.000 That's ridiculous.
00:25:55.000 Like, just saying that alone...
00:25:58.000 Like, I saved it.
00:25:59.000 It was a story from years ago, and I always wanted to do a bit about it, but I would get so mad when I would read it that I'm like, this isn't even going to be funny.
00:26:06.000 Like, there's nothing funny about it.
00:26:07.000 It was a blessing in disguise, though, because that was a big reason why he went to satellite radio.
00:26:13.000 I love, I just got it.
00:26:15.000 I've had it for the last year.
00:26:17.000 I love it, man.
00:26:18.000 He just re-signed a five-year deal.
00:26:19.000 Oh, yeah.
00:26:19.000 Huge deal.
00:26:20.000 Such a good show.
00:26:21.000 Well, he has the best interviews.
00:26:23.000 His interviews are excellent.
00:26:24.000 And he has, like, man, lately it seems like he's bigger than ever.
00:26:27.000 He just keeps getting, like, he's getting serious.
00:26:29.000 He can't get any bigger.
00:26:30.000 A-list stars to be interviewed.
00:26:33.000 I mean, he's, it's, uh...
00:26:35.000 So the point is that Diaz could get fined for that and for the late kick.
00:26:39.000 I don't know, well, he didn't kick him.
00:26:41.000 Oh, that's right, sorry.
00:26:42.000 Johnson kicked him.
00:26:43.000 Correct, holding that.
00:26:43.000 And he didn't hurt him with that, so that's super questionable.
00:26:46.000 No, that's bullshit.
00:26:46.000 But the swearing on the air, if you do it on purpose, I think you can get in trouble.
00:26:52.000 I don't know what the rules are.
00:26:53.000 I'm just talking out of my ass, but I've been told, like on live radio, that if you chose to swear on live radio, if they went after you, they could fine you, and they could fine you a lot of money, like hundreds of thousands of dollars.
00:27:05.000 Wow.
00:27:05.000 Yeah, it's crazy.
00:27:06.000 That's a bummer.
00:27:07.000 Well, it's just dark, man.
00:27:08.000 It's just dark that they can take money from you and it goes where?
00:27:12.000 Where does it go?
00:27:13.000 Does it go anywhere helpful?
00:27:14.000 Or does it just get eaten up by your red tape fucking overrun system?
00:27:19.000 I mean, where does that money go?
00:27:20.000 You're just stealing money from me.
00:27:21.000 You're going to steal it and then pump it out into this machine?
00:27:24.000 It doesn't make any sense?
00:27:25.000 Even if they charge him...
00:27:26.000 I don't think he's going to get fined.
00:27:27.000 Let's say they fined him $100,000, but he gets the Conor McGregor fight.
00:27:31.000 It's worth every penny.
00:27:32.000 It's brilliant.
00:27:34.000 There's a reason three dudes are calling Connor out, because that's the payday.
00:27:37.000 How about his brother with the pot charge?
00:27:40.000 They fined him $165,000 and then they kept him out of fighting for five years.
00:27:46.000 That was the rule.
00:27:47.000 It's insane.
00:27:48.000 It's beyond silly.
00:27:50.000 Where do you see Tony Ferguson in that mix?
00:27:52.000 I could see Tony...
00:27:54.000 Oh, he's right there.
00:27:55.000 After the Barboza fight?
00:27:56.000 I could see Tony and Cowboy.
00:27:57.000 Dude, he beat Barboza.
00:27:59.000 Holy shit.
00:28:00.000 Dude, finished him.
00:28:02.000 People are scared of Edson Barboza.
00:28:04.000 No one is confident when they go into that fight.
00:28:06.000 They're like, oh shit.
00:28:07.000 He's got, in my opinion, the fastest kicks I've ever seen in MMA. Barboza?
00:28:11.000 Yeah.
00:28:11.000 100%.
00:28:12.000 He's so fast.
00:28:13.000 His switch kick off his front leg...
00:28:14.000 Amazing.
00:28:15.000 It's the fastest switch kick I've ever seen in my life.
00:28:17.000 I've never seen anybody faster.
00:28:18.000 He's like a 130-pound Taekwondo guy.
00:28:22.000 Like a little tiny Korean guy that moves like lightning.
00:28:24.000 That's how good he is.
00:28:25.000 Like, his switch kick is just...
00:28:27.000 It's insane.
00:28:28.000 It's like...
00:28:29.000 It's so fast.
00:28:30.000 I could see Tony and Cowboy fighting.
00:28:33.000 Fuck yeah.
00:28:33.000 That's a phenomenal fuck.
00:28:35.000 Tony's ready for those guys right there.
00:28:37.000 100%.
00:28:37.000 I said 2016 is Tony's year.
00:28:40.000 I think he's the guy where everyone's like, fuck, I don't want to fight that dude.
00:28:42.000 He can't sleep on Nurmagomedov either.
00:28:45.000 That fucking guy, if he can get healthy...
00:28:46.000 I'm sleeping on him because he's not healthy.
00:28:47.000 But if he can get healthy, and he can figure out a way to stop being injured, like he does, the last one was a rib, which you can't really control, but the knees, he's done his knees a couple times now, and I think he's done his knees after surgery.
00:29:00.000 I think he hurt his knee, got it fixed, and then hurt again, which is never good.
00:29:04.000 So people are a little bummed out that he hasn't been in action.
00:29:06.000 He's a motherfucker.
00:29:07.000 If he's healthy, remember, he slammed the champ around like a fucking ragdoll.
00:29:12.000 He just tossed him around.
00:29:13.000 He just did whatever he wanted to once he got ahold of him.
00:29:15.000 He's a nightmare.
00:29:16.000 If he gets healthy, they're all fucked.
00:29:18.000 It's almost, though, like he's too tough for his joints.
00:29:21.000 You know, it's almost like his style is so hard, and he's got so much fucking strength and technique and so much torque.
00:29:29.000 Like, when he ragdolls guys, it's a very unique kind of ragdoll.
00:29:32.000 It's explosive ragdoll.
00:29:33.000 It's also, he's ragdolling guys that no one ragdolls.
00:29:36.000 I agree.
00:29:36.000 Like, when he ragdolled Dos Anjos, that was like, whoa!
00:29:39.000 I ain't never seen anybody do this to Dos Anjos.
00:29:41.000 It's insane, man.
00:29:42.000 Klay Guida beat him, but he got a broken jaw, and Klay finished him with his jaw broken.
00:29:46.000 Remember, Klay was doing an arm triangle?
00:29:48.000 Yes.
00:29:49.000 And he had a broken jaw.
00:29:50.000 This is the Russian you're talking about?
00:29:52.000 No, no, no, Dos Anjos.
00:29:53.000 Oh, that was in Denver.
00:29:55.000 Against who?
00:29:56.000 I think so.
00:29:56.000 We're talking about Nurmagomedov.
00:29:58.000 Okay.
00:29:58.000 Habib Nurmagomedov, the way he ragdolled Dos Anjos.
00:30:00.000 He beat Dos Anjos.
00:30:01.000 Beat him.
00:30:02.000 He just threw him around, man.
00:30:03.000 Beat his ass.
00:30:04.000 Threw him around.
00:30:05.000 How long ago was that?
00:30:06.000 Two years ago?
00:30:06.000 The champion.
00:30:08.000 It was the last loss on Dos Anjos record.
00:30:11.000 No one wants to fight him.
00:30:13.000 Cowboy was supposed to fight him.
00:30:14.000 Who else has he fought?
00:30:15.000 But, I gotta say, I don't think that Dos Anjos is the same Dos Anjos we're looking at now.
00:30:19.000 I agree 100%.
00:30:20.000 His strength and conditioning program is fucking gnarly.
00:30:24.000 He looked phenomenal.
00:30:25.000 You gotta talk to Nick Curzon.
00:30:27.000 You should have him on your podcast.
00:30:28.000 Yeah.
00:30:28.000 He's that speed of sport guy.
00:30:30.000 Yeah, I've heard of him.
00:30:30.000 He works with Fabrizio Verdum, Ruslan Pravodnikov.
00:30:32.000 He works with a lot of Olympic athletes.
00:30:35.000 Oh, Jake Ellenberg is just telling me about him.
00:30:37.000 Yeah, and Joe Schilling is working with him now, too.
00:30:39.000 He has these guys doing all these crazy plyometric drills.
00:30:42.000 Everyone swears by him.
00:30:44.000 Everyone swears by him.
00:30:45.000 Dude, I'll tell you, I had this guy in, and I talked to him, and I was super impressed.
00:30:48.000 Super impressed with his knowledge, with his understanding, and with his philosophy.
00:30:53.000 And I was like, what is the big difference?
00:30:55.000 What's the most important thing?
00:30:56.000 He's like, foot strength.
00:30:57.000 I was like, whoa.
00:30:58.000 He's like, it's all about covering distance and all about the ability to move and balance in movements, and it's all about figuring out how to close the distance quicker.
00:31:07.000 And he was saying that when he fought Pettis, Dos Anjos was just that much quicker at every exchange.
00:31:11.000 He pulled the trigger that much faster, landed that much faster, and he's like, and over the course of a fight, even though he's only that much better over the course of the fight, that adds up.
00:31:19.000 You get fucked up.
00:31:20.000 And that's what you saw last night.
00:31:22.000 Dos Anjos would just jump the gun.
00:31:24.000 He was just there.
00:31:24.000 I think it's a combo of things.
00:31:25.000 I think...
00:31:27.000 Talking, you know, knowing Cowboy as long as I've known him, he just, and he even said it in his post-fight interview, he just said, listen, I didn't show up, and in this business, when you don't show up to work, you don't feel like fighting, you get your ass whooped.
00:31:40.000 So I think it's...
00:31:40.000 He didn't feel like fighting?
00:31:41.000 He said that?
00:31:42.000 Yeah, he's been there before too, man.
00:31:44.000 He's been there before, and he ended up KOing dudes.
00:31:48.000 Cowboy's always had a problem in the back.
00:31:49.000 The reason I didn't like this for Cowboy is because of the time off.
00:31:52.000 Cowboy's an active guy, so he doesn't have to think about it.
00:31:54.000 You give him six months, that's trouble for Cowboy.
00:31:56.000 You know, man, I don't know if any of that would have mattered, the way Dos Anjos pulled the trigger.
00:32:01.000 I agree 100%.
00:32:01.000 I think Dos Anjos looked phenomenal.
00:32:04.000 But I do have to say that there has to be some sense made out of when fights get stopped and when fights don't get stopped.
00:32:13.000 I'm not saying that fight shouldn't have been stopped, but I am saying that Chris Wybin vs.
00:32:17.000 Luke Rockhold should have been stopped.
00:32:19.000 I agree.
00:32:19.000 I think we have to figure out what is the when?
00:32:23.000 What's the when?
00:32:24.000 I mean, I don't know when it is, but I felt like Cowboy was covering up and eating shots, and although I'm not unhappy with the stoppage, like I didn't protest it, I was like, man, I don't know.
00:32:34.000 It is for a title, but referee's there.
00:32:36.000 He sees what he sees.
00:32:37.000 I don't.
00:32:39.000 There's a giant difference between doing that and then what was happening at the end of the round where Rockhold was mounted on Weidman and just beating his brains in.
00:32:47.000 I agree.
00:32:48.000 That was bad.
00:32:49.000 That felt to me like I was like, Jesus Christ.
00:32:51.000 And I think I even said, what does it take to stop the fight?
00:32:54.000 I agree.
00:32:54.000 Because how many shots can he take?
00:32:56.000 The thing is with Cowboy, why...
00:32:59.000 Lister Bowling, I talked to his coach, Lister Bowling, and he goes, man, you think he was stopped earlier?
00:33:04.000 And I said, I don't because Cowboy's been in the game long enough.
00:33:08.000 He knows when he's in turtle like that and he's getting punched, Cowboy knows, man.
00:33:12.000 They can stop it.
00:33:14.000 They give you a warning.
00:33:15.000 Do something or I'm going to stop the fight.
00:33:17.000 If Cowboy would just roll to guard and manage distance or grabbed him and controlled him, the fight would have carried on.
00:33:23.000 But when I don't see Cowboy responding, I don't want to say he wanted out, but he knows what's going on.
00:33:28.000 Trust me, I've been...
00:33:30.000 Shit like that happens.
00:33:31.000 So when he's covering up, you think what he really should have been doing is moving and scrambling.
00:33:36.000 He should just roll.
00:33:37.000 So by just standing there and covering up, he basically invited the stoppage.
00:33:41.000 Yes.
00:33:42.000 I'm not saying he wanted out.
00:33:43.000 He might have been hurt.
00:33:44.000 He probably was hurt.
00:33:45.000 And it's kind of like, you know, man.
00:33:47.000 They come in the back, they go, listen, if I tell you to move, I'm close to stopping it.
00:33:50.000 And you can hear it clear as day.
00:33:53.000 Like my last fight with Travis Brown, I turned to the ref, I said, I'm fine, because I know where it's going to get stopped.
00:33:58.000 I know when I'm in trouble and they're about to stop it.
00:34:00.000 I turned to him, I go, I'm good.
00:34:02.000 It's tough, man.
00:34:03.000 And so Cowboys has so much experience.
00:34:05.000 If you just went to guard, you would have bought him some time.
00:34:08.000 I'll tell you what, man.
00:34:09.000 He had to be wrong because Dos Anjos just teed off on him.
00:34:14.000 To the body.
00:34:15.000 That knee to the body was nasty, and then the kick, and then he uncorks.
00:34:18.000 And Cowboy said the kick didn't land.
00:34:20.000 I think he means the kick didn't hurt him.
00:34:23.000 It definitely landed.
00:34:23.000 It landed 100%.
00:34:24.000 Yeah, but I think he meant it didn't hurt him.
00:34:27.000 He said the knee is what did it.
00:34:28.000 I think the knee really hurt him, and then the kick was just icing on the cake.
00:34:32.000 It wasn't what put him away, but that barrage of punches, too.
00:34:37.000 He's fucking terrifying.
00:34:38.000 Terrifying, man.
00:34:39.000 You know what's cool about him, too?
00:34:40.000 We watched him get better.
00:34:42.000 Like, we saw him against Jeremy Stephens.
00:34:44.000 He got KO'd against Jeremy Stephens.
00:34:45.000 He started off on two in the UFC. Yeah.
00:34:47.000 I mean, he's a guy who just fucking kept on working.
00:34:51.000 He's the nicest guy in the world.
00:34:53.000 When I was in Brazil, man, I'm telling you, no one gave me the time of day.
00:34:56.000 This dude took me around, introduced me to different...
00:34:59.000 Great dude, man.
00:35:00.000 Yeah, I've talked to him many times backstage.
00:35:02.000 He's so calm and polite and friendly.
00:35:05.000 He's at peace.
00:35:07.000 He's an interesting guy.
00:35:09.000 He's just trying to heal my knee up, trying to get everything right.
00:35:12.000 You want him to win.
00:35:13.000 If you know the guy, you root for him to win.
00:35:16.000 Not that I took heat, and I say this whether they're Brazilian or not, I say the X factors, and this is everyone, and it's not Dos Angeles.
00:35:23.000 I never said Dos Angeles was on stuff, but to me, when I was picking Dos Angeles and Cowboy, I said the X factor is if someone was taking shit, we're going to see different fighters.
00:35:32.000 Now, it can't be for Cowboy or Dos Santos, but that's all around the board.
00:35:35.000 I'm not saying anything that's new.
00:35:37.000 If steroids wasn't an issue, performance-enhancing drugs wasn't an issue, the UFC wouldn't have implemented the strictest drug testing ever in the history of sports.
00:35:45.000 It's true, and I want to say something without implicating anyone, because this subject gets brought up a lot, and people are always like, you guys are talking shit, and you don't know what you're talking about.
00:35:55.000 Let me just say that...
00:35:58.000 Everyone behind the scenes, all the trainers, all the coaches, all the managers, everyone is having this conversation.
00:36:05.000 These conversations that we're having on this podcast are not unique in that sense.
00:36:09.000 These are not ideas that we have.
00:36:11.000 These are not theories that we have.
00:36:13.000 Look, Jeff Nowitzki is sniffing up these dudes asses and he's not playing games.
00:36:17.000 Why do you think that is?
00:36:19.000 Because the UFC was like, you know what, let's just make it the strictest drug testing of all time.
00:36:23.000 Hell no.
00:36:24.000 There's a real problem there.
00:36:25.000 Well, there's definitely a real problem, or was a real problem, but the idea that it's only us that's talking about it is crazy, because we're the only ones talking about it as publicly as we do, but behind the scenes, it is a constant conversation.
00:36:38.000 Oh, any time I talk to anyone in the game, it's the conversation.
00:36:41.000 When we get done here, I'll have texts from coaches, other fighters.
00:36:44.000 And we can't even name names.
00:36:45.000 Sometimes people come up to us and they'll say someone's going to have a hard time because he's off the shit.
00:36:49.000 100%.
00:36:49.000 And then they'll go in there and they'll get crushed.
00:36:51.000 And we'll go, whoa, this is nuts.
00:36:53.000 The thing is with Aldo, I took so much shit for that.
00:36:56.000 You've got to realize he was the fighter at the present time when we're talking about this.
00:37:00.000 I'm not singling out Aldo.
00:37:01.000 I never said Aldo was on steroids.
00:37:03.000 I said there's some things to me that were suspicious.
00:37:06.000 What he's done for the sport is great.
00:37:07.000 He's one of my favorite fighters.
00:37:09.000 He's phenomenal.
00:37:09.000 Yeah.
00:37:10.000 Whether he's on shit or not, it doesn't matter.
00:37:12.000 My favorite fighter of all time was probably on shit.
00:37:14.000 Vanderlei is like, if I had to choose one guy who had the most fun watching, the Vanderlei and the Pride days, he was a goddamn berserker.
00:37:21.000 Every fight was, ah!
00:37:23.000 You'd fucking be grabbing pillows.
00:37:25.000 How many times did we watch Vanderlei fight in Pride?
00:37:28.000 Just screaming.
00:37:29.000 Vanderlei, Cro Cop?
00:37:30.000 Cro Cop's my favorite fighter of all time.
00:37:31.000 He just got busted last week.
00:37:33.000 I don't give a fuck.
00:37:34.000 Yeah, he got busted too.
00:37:35.000 Why do you suppose the Japanese...
00:37:37.000 Didn't care about steroids.
00:37:39.000 They wanted you on steroids because you could perform better.
00:37:41.000 They want the freak show, too.
00:37:44.000 Well, they also want you to fight like crazy.
00:37:46.000 They want you to fight like a wild man.
00:37:48.000 They don't want you to win like a really close decision.
00:37:51.000 They don't want you to do that.
00:37:52.000 They want you to go out fucking Vanderlei style or Shogun style or ninja style.
00:37:56.000 They want you to go out on your shield.
00:37:57.000 And they wanted you on steroids.
00:37:59.000 Yes.
00:37:59.000 They literally wanted you on steroids.
00:38:01.000 We know.
00:38:01.000 We have a friend that went over there.
00:38:03.000 They offered him a fight at 185 pounds.
00:38:05.000 He's like, I fight at 155. Oh, we know.
00:38:07.000 And they were like, dude, we got some shit that's going to fix that.
00:38:11.000 We got you, son.
00:38:12.000 They said, how much do you weigh now?
00:38:13.000 He's like, 170?
00:38:15.000 175?
00:38:15.000 He goes, you have a good frame for 185. I'm terrible at voices.
00:38:22.000 Yeah, that's a good voice.
00:38:23.000 That's great.
00:38:24.000 Oh, you are 175 right now.
00:38:28.000 You have to do a half terribly.
00:38:31.000 It's like Bobby Lee's act.
00:38:33.000 You can be 185. No a problem.
00:38:36.000 No a problem.
00:38:37.000 You ever heard Robby Lee do his dad?
00:38:39.000 That's what he does.
00:38:39.000 He adds like an uh to everything.
00:38:41.000 Yeah.
00:38:41.000 Phenomenal.
00:38:43.000 But you want to talk about PEDs, especially when you talk about Overeem and Dos Santos.
00:38:47.000 Oh, yeah.
00:38:48.000 Listen, man...
00:38:50.000 Overeem was on some shit.
00:38:51.000 We all know this.
00:38:52.000 Overeem was 100%.
00:38:53.000 100%.
00:38:53.000 So the X Factor was...
00:38:54.000 Well, he got caught.
00:38:55.000 Yes!
00:38:55.000 Yeah.
00:38:56.000 I'm not saying anything that's not out there.
00:38:58.000 Right, it's not out there.
00:38:58.000 So the X Factor was, what kind of Overeem are we going to get?
00:39:01.000 I'm still a big fan of Overeem.
00:39:03.000 He looked great.
00:39:03.000 I'm telling you what, man.
00:39:04.000 Me too.
00:39:04.000 I'm a huge fan.
00:39:05.000 You know, people think, because here's the thing, like, there's other sports where if you accuse a guy of cheating, everybody hates that guy.
00:39:12.000 Like, you know, people will talk about certain athletes that got caught doing something, and then people will go, fuck that guy, man, he's a fucking cheater.
00:39:19.000 Like, I heard dudes talking about, who's the deflate gate guy?
00:39:22.000 What's his name?
00:39:23.000 Tom Brady?
00:39:24.000 Tom Brady.
00:39:24.000 Like, he's a fucking cheater.
00:39:25.000 He's a cheater.
00:39:26.000 Nobody gives a fuck in MMA. They don't give a fuck.
00:39:29.000 But they want to know, because we're all suspicious.
00:39:31.000 Like, why does Overeem look so much different?
00:39:33.000 Why?
00:39:33.000 Say it!
00:39:34.000 Say it!
00:39:35.000 Say it!
00:39:35.000 But even, forget it or not, he's fucking awesome.
00:39:38.000 Dude, I was so impressed with Overeem on Saturday night.
00:39:42.000 That was a tough goddamn fight.
00:39:43.000 And did you see the thing where he's doing the Wim Hof method?
00:39:46.000 He got in 40 degree water for 30 minutes, and he's breathing.
00:39:49.000 He's got Wim Hof coaching him.
00:39:51.000 Jesus, I didn't see that.
00:39:52.000 Wim Hof is from Holland.
00:39:54.000 Oh fuck, that's right.
00:39:55.000 That's your boy.
00:39:56.000 And they got together and he's like teaching them these methods to optimize his body and I'll tell you what man, just talking to Wim Hof makes you feel like you can go run around naked in the snow.
00:40:03.000 I listen to that shit.
00:40:04.000 I start holding my breath.
00:40:05.000 He's a motherfucker.
00:40:07.000 What techniques do you use?
00:40:08.000 I use the breathing technique before I go on stage.
00:40:10.000 Really?
00:40:11.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:40:11.000 I do it for about 10 minutes before I go on stage.
00:40:13.000 I get high as fuck.
00:40:14.000 It's crazy.
00:40:15.000 You get like oxygen high.
00:40:19.000 No, you take a gigantic breath and you only let out like half of it.
00:40:24.000 And then you flood it up again.
00:40:26.000 You take the biggest breath you can.
00:40:27.000 You only let out a little bit of it.
00:40:29.000 And you keep doing that.
00:40:30.000 You keep doing that for minutes.
00:40:31.000 I do it for two minutes at a time.
00:40:34.000 Just before you go on stage?
00:40:35.000 Yeah, like five minutes before or so.
00:40:38.000 Like right before.
00:40:38.000 It's so easy and yet I'm so lazy.
00:40:41.000 It's the easiest shit ever.
00:40:44.000 It's not like special weird Hickson breathing.
00:40:46.000 It's just gigantic.
00:40:48.000 Emantic breaths.
00:40:49.000 That's it.
00:40:49.000 Can you do the easiest shit for three minutes and still I don't do it?
00:40:52.000 I do it if I start feeling sick, too.
00:40:54.000 If I feel run down or something like that, I'll do it for a few minutes.
00:40:57.000 I'll just sit down, do it for like two minutes.
00:40:58.000 You know what?
00:40:59.000 I really started doing it seriously, too.
00:41:00.000 I started doing it after you and I talked about it on the phone.
00:41:03.000 When you go, have you been doing that Wim Hof method?
00:41:04.000 I go, nah.
00:41:05.000 And you said the same thing.
00:41:06.000 We're so lazy.
00:41:08.000 It's so easy.
00:41:08.000 Nobody does it.
00:41:09.000 I said, yeah, you know what?
00:41:10.000 I'm going to start doing it before shows.
00:41:12.000 I'll just do it before shows.
00:41:14.000 Oh my god, I love it.
00:41:15.000 Dude, I had a dude off Abbott Kennedy, big, big dude, bald.
00:41:18.000 He goes, bro, listen to Rogan's podcast with, what's the dude's name?
00:41:21.000 Wim Hof.
00:41:22.000 Wim Hof.
00:41:22.000 He goes, hey man, what are you doing tomorrow morning?
00:41:25.000 I'm like, you know, I got shit to do, man.
00:41:27.000 He goes, well every morning at 4.30 we meet on the beach and we do these breathing techniques.
00:41:31.000 Whoa.
00:41:32.000 Yeah, cool, see you there, man.
00:41:33.000 Good luck at 4.30 a.m.
00:41:35.000 Yeah.
00:41:35.000 I was like, huh?
00:41:37.000 Fuck no.
00:41:38.000 Oh, can you schedule me for never?
00:41:39.000 Yeah, I'm not coming, man.
00:41:41.000 Why don't you get in the water, pussy?
00:41:42.000 Yeah, I think they do.
00:41:43.000 I think they do.
00:41:44.000 Yeah, they do that breathing shit.
00:41:46.000 That water's so cold.
00:41:46.000 That water in the Pacific in the winter is so cold.
00:41:49.000 It feels fucking refreshing.
00:41:50.000 Oh, yeah.
00:41:50.000 It's good.
00:41:51.000 I don't like water in my eyes, though.
00:41:52.000 Does salt water fuck with your eyes hardcore?
00:41:54.000 No, yoga does.
00:41:56.000 That's interesting.
00:41:57.000 It's probably hair care products.
00:41:58.000 Do you have hair care products in it?
00:42:00.000 No, I don't.
00:42:01.000 I do that on purpose.
00:42:03.000 You know when I used to fuck with me hard, dude?
00:42:05.000 When I used to do Fear Factor, I used to wear sunscreen on.
00:42:07.000 So I'd have sunscreen on my head, and then I would go on stage that night, and the sunscreen would drip, because I would sweat on stage, and sunscreen would drip in your eyes, and it's fucking fire.
00:42:16.000 It's awful.
00:42:17.000 That shit burns.
00:42:18.000 It's really bad for your eyes, too.
00:42:20.000 You can actually fuck with your vision.
00:42:22.000 It's super bad for your eyes.
00:42:23.000 I feel like I sweat so much during yoga, all the sweat gets in my eyes, so for like the next day, I'm like blinking trying to get it out.
00:42:29.000 I don't know if that's normal.
00:42:30.000 No, I definitely get sweat in my eyes, but sweat is like so much better than sweat with sunscreen.
00:42:37.000 Yeah, it's gonna burn.
00:42:38.000 Yeah, man, I think that whole getting in the ocean thing is probably something people have been doing forever to refresh their body.
00:42:46.000 I think it's instinctive.
00:42:48.000 You know how they do those ice plunges, those polar bear people?
00:42:52.000 Yeah, my aunt does it.
00:42:52.000 She's part of the polar bear club.
00:42:54.000 My aunt does that shit.
00:42:55.000 Polarberry Club in San Francisco, son.
00:42:57.000 You know how it feels when you get out of that cryo tank.
00:42:59.000 You feel fucking amazing, man.
00:43:01.000 You feel amazing.
00:43:02.000 Now mix that with the ocean.
00:43:04.000 There's some energy in the ocean.
00:43:05.000 Then it's cold.
00:43:06.000 I love it, man.
00:43:07.000 The ocean's alive.
00:43:08.000 Did you see that video?
00:43:10.000 In San Francisco Bay, right next to the dock, a shark murks a seal.
00:43:15.000 Just murks it.
00:43:18.000 Just leaves this gigantic puddle.
00:43:20.000 I mean, it's like a movie scene.
00:43:21.000 The shark comes out of the water with the seal.
00:43:24.000 And it's a big-ass shark.
00:43:25.000 It's on YouTube?
00:43:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:43:26.000 Jamie.
00:43:27.000 Jamie, play this thing.
00:43:28.000 Yeah, it's like a 12-foot shark, right?
00:43:32.000 It's huge.
00:43:33.000 Watch this.
00:43:34.000 Damn, he had a right on cue.
00:43:35.000 Yeah, watch this.
00:43:36.000 This is fucking amazing.
00:43:37.000 Look at this.
00:43:37.000 Boom, bitch!
00:43:38.000 I mean, come on, son.
00:43:39.000 Look at all that blood.
00:43:40.000 But he gets away!
00:43:41.000 Oh, yeah.
00:43:42.000 The little seal's like, not today, motherfucker.
00:43:44.000 Well, he's dead.
00:43:45.000 He's bleeding like crazy.
00:43:47.000 Oh, no, he's in trouble.
00:43:48.000 The shark probably just bit a giant chunk out of him.
00:43:51.000 See, he's on the top.
00:43:51.000 He's dead.
00:43:52.000 Look at all the blood.
00:43:53.000 Nah, dog, he gets away.
00:43:54.000 I understand, but look at all that blood.
00:43:57.000 I mean, he's not going anywhere.
00:43:59.000 He's kind of moving away a little, but he's not going anywhere.
00:44:03.000 I appreciate the effort.
00:44:03.000 Good lord, look at that puddle.
00:44:05.000 I agree.
00:44:06.000 Look at all these fucks running over from the clam chowder.
00:44:09.000 Oh, yeah, man.
00:44:10.000 I would be, I'd be like, oh, shit, that's all I want to see in life.
00:44:13.000 Fuck.
00:44:14.000 I'd love to see something like that.
00:44:16.000 So crazy that it's right there.
00:44:18.000 And that's just, it opens your eyes as to what that's really like.
00:44:21.000 Because if we were just outside of the woods, right, and you would sit in your house, look, he hits him again, boom.
00:44:28.000 Look at this.
00:44:29.000 Now he's dead.
00:44:30.000 Okay, now he's dead.
00:44:31.000 He's been dead.
00:44:32.000 I think that thing's just wiggling.
00:44:33.000 Well, he's kind of doing the damn thing, thinking he's going to get away with one fin.
00:44:36.000 I wonder what is happening.
00:44:38.000 Maybe he, like, lets it go?
00:44:39.000 Oh my god, look at this!
00:44:41.000 We're watching this, folks, and this is, like, maybe 30 feet away from people.
00:44:45.000 It looks like Jaws.
00:44:47.000 He's getting away though, but then he gets caught up.
00:44:49.000 I don't know what's happening there.
00:44:50.000 I just see some motion in the water.
00:44:52.000 He's making an effort.
00:44:53.000 Do you think he is?
00:44:54.000 100%.
00:44:54.000 Do you think there's more than one seal?
00:44:56.000 It just doesn't seem like that thing could bleed that much.
00:44:58.000 But look, he's up here now.
00:45:00.000 You know what?
00:45:00.000 There might be a bunch of seals, Joe.
00:45:02.000 He must be just jacking seals.
00:45:04.000 Oh, God, look at that.
00:45:06.000 That's insane.
00:45:07.000 Never gets old.
00:45:08.000 It never gets old for me.
00:45:09.000 See, that seal looks so little.
00:45:11.000 Do that again, Jamie.
00:45:12.000 Like, watch.
00:45:12.000 He's got it in his mouth when he flies out of the water.
00:45:15.000 I think that...
00:45:16.000 You know, there's way better footage than that.
00:45:18.000 It's just in South Africa.
00:45:19.000 Well, that's in San Francisco.
00:45:20.000 I know that's San Francisco.
00:45:21.000 Yes, yes.
00:45:22.000 See, your ball's deep in clam chowder.
00:45:24.000 Shark attack.
00:45:25.000 Yeah.
00:45:25.000 What I'm saying is, like, if we were...
00:45:26.000 Yeah, it makes it better.
00:45:27.000 Like, here, watch this.
00:45:27.000 Watch this one more time.
00:45:28.000 Watch this, the up-close thing.
00:45:30.000 Boom!
00:45:30.000 Look how little it is.
00:45:31.000 See how little it is?
00:45:32.000 Yeah.
00:45:32.000 And look at all that blood.
00:45:33.000 He looks like a puppy, and there's blood everywhere.
00:45:35.000 So that thing's dead.
00:45:36.000 I think there's another one.
00:45:37.000 Or maybe it looks like a puppy because of the...
00:45:38.000 Maybe we just can't tell because of the...
00:45:40.000 No, it's too...
00:45:41.000 It's so little.
00:45:42.000 Look how little...
00:45:42.000 We'll go one more time.
00:45:43.000 It's so little in his mouth.
00:45:45.000 Like, watch when it comes out of the water.
00:45:46.000 It's got it in his mouth.
00:45:47.000 See that?
00:45:47.000 Look at that.
00:45:48.000 That's little.
00:45:49.000 That thing's dead as fuck.
00:45:51.000 Look at all that blood afterwards.
00:45:52.000 God, I can't get enough of it.
00:45:53.000 I think that there's probably a gang of them in there, and he's just swimming around jacking them.
00:45:57.000 Just fucking full-on buffet.
00:45:59.000 I bet they just eat.
00:46:00.000 I don't think they've stopped getting hungry.
00:46:02.000 They're probably just eating shit and keep eating.
00:46:05.000 Is there any ultimate footage you could throw up from South Africa?
00:46:09.000 Oh yeah, there's a bunch of them.
00:46:09.000 Like the real shit.
00:46:10.000 I'm sure we could find some.
00:46:12.000 They're completely flying out of the giant ones.
00:46:15.000 This is 30 feet away from 100 people just sitting there watching.
00:46:18.000 It's Fisherman's Wharf.
00:46:19.000 You're chilling, and this fucking Great White's next to you.
00:46:22.000 But like I was saying, if you looked in your backyard, and your backyard was right there, and you watched some crazy crocodile tearing apart a zebra, right in your backyard, you'd be like, what the fuck?
00:46:33.000 I'm not going out there.
00:46:35.000 Absolutely not.
00:46:35.000 But people are like, let's go in the ocean.
00:46:37.000 Let's go swimming around.
00:46:39.000 Hey!
00:46:39.000 You know what?
00:46:39.000 I love man.
00:46:40.000 I love surfing.
00:46:41.000 I love surfing because it makes the...
00:46:42.000 This guy.
00:46:43.000 ...where I'm standing on look a lot like seals, which is what sharks eat.
00:46:47.000 I like to get my flippers in.
00:46:50.000 My arms look like flippers when I'm lying on a surfboard.
00:46:52.000 It makes it even more exciting.
00:46:54.000 I wear all black.
00:46:54.000 I like to wear a wetsuit because it looks like a seal.
00:46:57.000 And then I get in there and I look in.
00:47:00.000 I hope that Mother Nature looks out for me, man.
00:47:03.000 Yeah, you'd think they'd make the wetsuits white or something.
00:47:06.000 Look at that!
00:47:07.000 Oh my God!
00:47:08.000 Jesus Christ.
00:47:09.000 That is a crazy animal, son.
00:47:11.000 Scary fucking animal.
00:47:13.000 There's nothing scarier than that shit.
00:47:14.000 Nothing.
00:47:14.000 Look at that.
00:47:15.000 Jesus Christ.
00:47:17.000 And it's really easy to get those shots.
00:47:19.000 They're just, I mean, they're everywhere in South Africa.
00:47:20.000 Well, what they're doing is they're dragging a fake seal.
00:47:23.000 They're honeydicking the sharks.
00:47:24.000 See that?
00:47:25.000 That's a fake seal that they pull in water.
00:47:28.000 The shark's like, mother fucker.
00:47:29.000 They're coming up in the water.
00:47:31.000 Whoa.
00:47:32.000 Good lord.
00:47:33.000 I want to do something like that, man.
00:47:35.000 Fuck South Africa's ocean.
00:47:37.000 Fuck that ocean.
00:47:39.000 Can you imagine?
00:47:39.000 Jesus Christ.
00:47:40.000 How quickly you would die?
00:47:42.000 He died.
00:47:44.000 Is that why they're showing me he died?
00:47:45.000 I don't know.
00:47:45.000 He's an idiot.
00:47:45.000 Dude, it'd be a good way to go.
00:47:47.000 It'd be a dope way to go.
00:47:48.000 Are you kidding me?
00:47:49.000 It'd be a terrible way to go.
00:47:49.000 Oh, bro, how do I go like this?
00:47:51.000 Look at that fucking thing!
00:47:52.000 Can you imagine you're like 85 and they take you out there in a little boat?
00:47:55.000 I love it!
00:47:56.000 You're on a little boat.
00:47:57.000 When did they first realize that they jumped out of the water?
00:47:59.000 I want to say that that wasn't that long ago.
00:48:01.000 Like, only a couple decades ago.
00:48:03.000 I think there was just rumors that sharks jumped out of the water.
00:48:06.000 Yeah, it just hit Shark Week, like, two years ago.
00:48:08.000 We're like, holy fuck, they can fly!
00:48:10.000 I don't think they really necessarily...
00:48:13.000 Wouldn't it be crazy?
00:48:14.000 How about this?
00:48:15.000 Wouldn't it be crazy if they just started doing it recently?
00:48:17.000 Like, you know how we always like to think of human evolution?
00:48:20.000 And we think of human evolution as being like something that is like completely and totally unique.
00:48:24.000 Like, we got really smart, we figured out cable and the internet, and no other animals are ever going to figure that out.
00:48:29.000 But what they're starting to say now about chimpanzees, and there's a theory about this, that these scientists were debating whether or not chimpanzees are beginning to enter into the Stone Age.
00:48:40.000 Meaning whether or not chimpanzees are starting to experiment with tools to the point where it could be thought of as a natural trait, and whether or not they're going to start teaching each other.
00:48:48.000 I mean, we know that human beings, at one point in time, used to be some sort of an ancient primate, and we evolved, and we developed, and we grew, and we became what we are today, right?
00:49:01.000 We know we weren't this way four million years ago.
00:49:05.000 We became this over time.
00:49:07.000 Why wouldn't we assume that other animals are doing the same thing?
00:49:09.000 And if they are doing the same thing, we're seeing that right now with chimps.
00:49:13.000 Imagine if we're seeing that shit with sharks, too.
00:49:15.000 Imagine if they go, you know what looks cool as fuck, dude?
00:49:17.000 When you jack a seal and fly out of the ocean.
00:49:20.000 Just to let those cunts know.
00:49:21.000 Look at me, bitch!
00:49:23.000 Come surf, dude!
00:49:24.000 Motherfucker!
00:49:25.000 Dude!
00:49:27.000 Think about what people do to show off.
00:49:30.000 Those flips that those BMX bikers do, they couldn't do that 10 years ago or 20 years ago.
00:49:34.000 They didn't do it.
00:49:35.000 Nobody did it.
00:49:36.000 All of a sudden, they do it.
00:49:37.000 Well, these fucking sharks are starting to jump out of the water.
00:49:40.000 What if it was 10 years ago, they just didn't do it?
00:49:43.000 What if one shark did it, and the other sharks were like, oh, and that shark got a lot of shark pussy, and the other sharks were like, I've got to start doing that, too.
00:49:51.000 It's called peacocking, son.
00:49:52.000 You have smoked yourself, retarded.
00:49:57.000 You smoked yourself for time.
00:49:59.000 It wouldn't be the first time, sir.
00:50:01.000 Did you see that video of the chimpanzee?
00:50:03.000 Is there a conspiracy theory?
00:50:04.000 There's a video that I just saw last week on Facebook.
00:50:07.000 It had like a gazillion views, but there's a monkey sitting in front of a screen with all these squares, and a sequence of numbers, one through ten, pops up in the squares, and you see it all mixed up just for a flash, and the chimp goes, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
00:50:22.000 nine, ten.
00:50:22.000 I couldn't do it.
00:50:24.000 Now, I don't know if it's a hoax video.
00:50:25.000 I couldn't do it.
00:50:25.000 I was trying to do it, but I couldn't remember, I couldn't put them in order, but the monkeys, apparently, unless it's a hoax video, it could be, says chimps have a better short-term memory than humans, or it's just me, because I couldn't do it.
00:50:39.000 They figured out how to do it to get food, and they teach them these sequences over a long period of time.
00:50:45.000 They teach them how to do it, and then they know they're going to get food, but they've been doing it for a while.
00:50:51.000 And then they give him a treat.
00:50:52.000 Dude, you remember when that dumb bitch had a pet chimpanzee?
00:50:55.000 Yeah, but look at the code.
00:50:56.000 It's just one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.
00:50:59.000 See, it's not like some super secret code.
00:51:01.000 Like, watch the beginning.
00:51:03.000 See, it's one, two, three.
00:51:04.000 Oh, well, here's what's going on, though.
00:51:05.000 They block out the numbers so you can't see what the numbers are.
00:51:08.000 Exactly.
00:51:09.000 But look at it.
00:51:10.000 At first he does it, you see the numbers.
00:51:11.000 Oh, then it's just blocks.
00:51:13.000 And then they do it again, and then they hide the numbers.
00:51:15.000 They show it to him briefly for a moment, and then they hide the numbers.
00:51:18.000 Yeah, look at how fast he's...
00:51:19.000 Look at this.
00:51:20.000 I couldn't have done that.
00:51:21.000 I wouldn't have done it.
00:51:21.000 You know what?
00:51:22.000 That's challenging.
00:51:23.000 What the fuck?
00:51:24.000 We better take these motherfuckers out.
00:51:25.000 Humans can't do it.
00:51:26.000 Yeah, and it's in a different order.
00:51:28.000 We better kill these guys.
00:51:28.000 It's a different order every time.
00:51:29.000 Look at them walking on a tightrope.
00:51:31.000 Holy shit!
00:51:31.000 Watch them walk on the tightrope.
00:51:32.000 Watch this again.
00:51:33.000 This is what's bananas.
00:51:35.000 Watch them walk on this fucking telephone cord or whatever that is.
00:51:37.000 Dude, that's spooky looking.
00:51:38.000 They're terrifying.
00:51:39.000 They're terrifying.
00:51:40.000 That Planet of the Apes shit, imagine if they got just smart enough to be like those things in Planet of the Apes.
00:51:44.000 We gotta take him out before that happens.
00:51:46.000 Oh, we'd have to take him out.
00:51:47.000 Bro, remember that lady who had the boyfriend chimpanzee?
00:51:51.000 Yeah, she gave it Xanax.
00:51:52.000 He was chilling in a robe and shit, drinking wine, and then one day he said, nah, bitch, ripped her face off.
00:51:57.000 Remember that?
00:51:57.000 No, not her face, her friend's face, because her friend was cock-blocking.
00:52:00.000 Oh, that's right.
00:52:01.000 That's what it is.
00:52:01.000 I think that chimp was getting some pussy.
00:52:03.000 That's what I think's happening.
00:52:05.000 She was 100% sucking his dick.
00:52:06.000 She was banging him.
00:52:06.000 Yeah.
00:52:07.000 What are you doing over there, Eddie Bravo, on the microphone?
00:52:09.000 I got some chocolate with bacon in it here.
00:52:11.000 Okay.
00:52:12.000 Does that sound good?
00:52:13.000 Definitely not opening it on the mic.
00:52:14.000 But I need a pair of scissors.
00:52:17.000 Why don't you use your teeth, man?
00:52:18.000 I tried to, dude.
00:52:19.000 Chuck it over here.
00:52:19.000 I'll get it for you.
00:52:20.000 This is a steel paper.
00:52:21.000 So with that lady, see, I thought it was her that got fucked up.
00:52:25.000 Oh, shit.
00:52:26.000 Powerful teeth by Joe Rogan.
00:52:28.000 Let's just bite in there, man.
00:52:29.000 I'm good.
00:52:30.000 Let's just take that wrapper off, though, so it doesn't make everybody get angry at us on Twitter.
00:52:34.000 Let me know how it is, Eddie.
00:52:38.000 So the friend was cock-blocking.
00:52:40.000 That's what it was.
00:52:40.000 So the friend came on and was like, oh, what's up, champ in the rope?
00:52:42.000 That's cool.
00:52:43.000 I'm trying to get my dick sucked.
00:52:44.000 And he went crazy and he attacked her.
00:52:46.000 Did he rip his face off?
00:52:47.000 He ripped her face off.
00:52:48.000 I wonder if she said, hey, you get out of here, if she got threatening to him or something like that.
00:52:53.000 I wonder if there was an exchange or if he said, all right, enough of this cock-blocking.
00:52:58.000 I'm just going to pull this bitch's eyes out.
00:53:00.000 He had a robe on, bro.
00:53:01.000 I think he had a diaper.
00:53:03.000 Robe and a diaper.
00:53:04.000 Do you see the picture of him in a robe?
00:53:05.000 She dressed him up and shit.
00:53:06.000 Jesus Christ.
00:53:07.000 Can we see this?
00:53:08.000 I want to see this.
00:53:09.000 Well, there's pictures of her, too, if you want to get rid of it.
00:53:11.000 She got fucked.
00:53:12.000 Didn't he rip her face and titties off or something?
00:53:14.000 Tore her face apart.
00:53:15.000 Completely.
00:53:16.000 And then the chick's on the phone, right?
00:53:18.000 She's crunched.
00:53:19.000 My fucking monkey just killed my friend.
00:53:21.000 He was 200 pounds.
00:53:22.000 He was huge.
00:53:23.000 He slept in her bed, I thought.
00:53:25.000 He slept in her bed.
00:53:26.000 She gave him Xanax, and she gave him red wine.
00:53:30.000 So even if he wasn't fucking her, which he probably was fucking her, he had a giant dick, a giant chimp dick, and giant chimp balls, and he's probably horny all the time.
00:53:37.000 So maybe she just jerked him off every now and again.
00:53:39.000 Who knows what the fuck happened?
00:53:42.000 But that chimp was her companion.
00:53:44.000 He loved her.
00:53:45.000 That was her man.
00:53:45.000 Yeah, it was her man.
00:53:46.000 It doesn't matter if that happened.
00:53:51.000 He wasn't fixed.
00:53:52.000 Think of a dude, a horny dude, and he's cuddling with his girl all the time, and he's never getting any pussy, and then a friend comes over right when he thinks he's about to get the pussy.
00:54:01.000 A friend comes over and like, you're sleeping with a monkey!
00:54:03.000 He's like, you fucking cunt!
00:54:04.000 You gotta rip her face off.
00:54:06.000 Tears her apart.
00:54:07.000 Fucking bitch!
00:54:08.000 Face off.
00:54:09.000 Oh my god, what a monster.
00:54:10.000 What a terrifying thing.
00:54:11.000 An intelligent, super powerful primate that rips your face apart.
00:54:16.000 That sips wine and is fucking chilling.
00:54:18.000 And Xanax.
00:54:19.000 She was giving it Xanax.
00:54:20.000 Who knows what the fuck Xanax does to her?
00:54:21.000 Imagine how hard he fucked her after the wine.
00:54:24.000 Monkeys probably have a lower tolerance than humans.
00:54:27.000 You probably have a drunken monkey sex.
00:54:30.000 I wonder if she gave him wine and Xanax at the same time.
00:54:32.000 He's gonna rip that asshole up.
00:54:34.000 You know what I mean?
00:54:34.000 No wonder she's living there.
00:54:35.000 It's science.
00:54:36.000 It's like, you ain't going fucking nowhere.
00:54:37.000 You're staying here.
00:54:38.000 There he is.
00:54:39.000 There he is, man.
00:54:39.000 Look at her face, son.
00:54:41.000 Oh my god.
00:54:43.000 Look at her face.
00:54:44.000 Oh my god.
00:54:46.000 Like, if when you guys called me, he was like, yo man, I got this champ, come and see it.
00:54:49.000 No, I'm not fucking coming over.
00:54:52.000 He's terrifying.
00:54:53.000 He literally tore her face apart.
00:54:55.000 That's him chilling in her room and shit.
00:54:58.000 Look at the family photo there in the yellow.
00:55:01.000 I don't mean to laugh, but what the fuck?
00:55:04.000 What kind of crazy bitch is this?
00:55:06.000 Well, you know, people are allowed to have wild animals that they shouldn't be allowed to.
00:55:10.000 They just haven't changed the laws in certain places.
00:55:12.000 There's actually a documentary called The Elephant in the Living Room that's all about people that own wild animals, like dangerous wild animals.
00:55:20.000 And there's parts of the country where you could just, like Ohio, there was this guy that had a bunch of them.
00:55:25.000 He had tigers and lions and elephants and shit, and then he opened up the gates and shot himself in the head.
00:55:30.000 He was like, fuck this.
00:55:32.000 Open the gates, let the animals out, and then fucking iced himself.
00:55:35.000 And so the cops came, and the cops had to just start shooting these animals.
00:55:39.000 They had to find them and shoot them.
00:55:40.000 But they're all just wandering down the street.
00:55:42.000 They don't know where the fuck they're going.
00:55:44.000 They've been in these fenced cages their whole life.
00:55:46.000 That's horrible.
00:55:47.000 Oh, it's so crazy.
00:55:48.000 Dude, how about the kid who his parents, or I think it was his mom, owned like a crazy snake pet shop, and he committed suicide by letting a cobra bite him.
00:55:57.000 The cobra bit him eight times.
00:55:59.000 That's how he committed suicide.
00:56:01.000 Jesus Christ.
00:56:01.000 Some gnarly shit, man.
00:56:04.000 Again, good way to go.
00:56:06.000 I don't know about all that, dude.
00:56:07.000 Well, I'm saying gangster way to go.
00:56:09.000 Gangster, yeah.
00:56:10.000 It's insanely painful, I think.
00:56:12.000 Yeah, that can't be good.
00:56:13.000 Speaking of suicide, dude, seriously, you guys got to watch Soaked in Bleach.
00:56:18.000 Dude, I've seen it.
00:56:19.000 What is it?
00:56:20.000 Oh, my God.
00:56:20.000 It's the brand new Kurt Cobain documentary about Courtney Love It.
00:56:24.000 Courtney Love Did It?
00:56:25.000 She did it, dude.
00:56:27.000 He's got tapes.
00:56:28.000 What do you mean?
00:56:28.000 She did it.
00:56:29.000 Dude.
00:56:29.000 Watch this.
00:56:29.000 She killed him?
00:56:30.000 Yes, 100%.
00:56:33.000 Dude, in this dark...
00:56:34.000 Dude, it's...
00:56:36.000 If you say, dude, one more time, the internet is going to explode.
00:56:39.000 They're going to freak out on you.
00:56:40.000 They're going to rip your face off like a chimpanzee.
00:56:42.000 It's so mind-boggling that history is going to be rewritten on how a Jimi Hendrix-type rock star got killed.
00:56:50.000 It's been out for a while, though.
00:56:51.000 Now they've got to change.
00:56:52.000 No, this year.
00:56:53.000 It came out this year.
00:56:54.000 2015, dude.
00:56:55.000 I don't think so, brother.
00:56:56.000 That's one of those stories that is so crazy that when you start telling people, you have to dude them up just to get them prepared for it.
00:57:03.000 Dude!
00:57:03.000 Right?
00:57:04.000 You gotta prepare them.
00:57:06.000 You gotta dude.
00:57:07.000 How bad is it?
00:57:07.000 Dude.
00:57:08.000 Dude.
00:57:08.000 I agree.
00:57:09.000 Dude.
00:57:09.000 You almost like, with all your dudes, I get more and more prepared for craziness.
00:57:13.000 Is it 2015?
00:57:15.000 But what they do is they have the private investigator that Courtney hired to make her look good, but she just went through the yellow pages and hired a motherfucker.
00:57:25.000 She hired the detective of all detectives.
00:57:29.000 And he's the guy who speaks on this.
00:57:31.000 Kurt Cobain had her sign a prenup.
00:57:33.000 This is all real shit when you watch this.
00:57:36.000 He was divorcing her and writing her out of the will.
00:57:39.000 He was in the process of writing her out of the will, and since she signed a prenup, she wasn't going to get that much.
00:57:45.000 And he she was totally fucked up on her and he was trying to clean his shit up according to this documentary and then If she had something, it looks, it appears that she had something to do with his murder.
00:58:01.000 It appears based on that documentary.
00:58:03.000 It fucking, dude, they got, oh dude, here we go again.
00:58:06.000 Dude.
00:58:07.000 Dude.
00:58:08.000 When he shot himself.
00:58:09.000 Yes, when he shot himself.
00:58:10.000 Okay.
00:58:10.000 Are they saying he didn't shoot himself?
00:58:12.000 No, no.
00:58:12.000 They're saying he did, but they're saying he didn't do it because he had too much heroin in his body.
00:58:17.000 How much heroin they found in his blood system, he couldn't operate a gun.
00:58:20.000 He had enough heroin in his body to cause 10 overdoses on people.
00:58:25.000 It was just like, it was crazy.
00:58:27.000 Let me ask you this.
00:58:28.000 Is it possible his tolerance was so high that he could just do it?
00:58:32.000 Well, when you listen to all the shit that's private, she hired a private investigator to find this missing, we don't know where he's at.
00:58:39.000 He bought a shotgun and he's suicidal.
00:58:42.000 She was just putting it all out there.
00:58:44.000 And from day one, this private investigator started taping everything and goes, this girl's full of shit.
00:58:48.000 He was calling like TMZ and leaking all this stuff.
00:58:50.000 There was no TMZ then.
00:58:52.000 Well, she was calling like the...
00:58:53.000 MTV. Whatever.
00:58:55.000 Courtney was calling MTV saying he's suicidal.
00:58:58.000 He bought a shotgun.
00:58:59.000 Because the detective was like, how the fuck is this getting out?
00:59:01.000 And then he traced it back.
00:59:02.000 He's like, this bitch is releasing it.
00:59:04.000 And then with the evidence, the way he shot himself, according to how he would do it, that they found him, the way the shotgun shell fell is all wrong.
00:59:14.000 It should have fell the other way.
00:59:15.000 All the taped conversations.
00:59:19.000 He taped everything.
00:59:20.000 Mad conversations.
00:59:21.000 Him and her lawyer.
00:59:23.000 Him and her.
00:59:24.000 And this is the shit she would say.
00:59:25.000 She'd be all fucked up on heroin.
00:59:26.000 In her voice would say, see, you know, they're supposed to be looking for Kurt, but she knows where he's at.
00:59:32.000 She's calling the rehab 13 times a day and he won't take her calls.
00:59:36.000 She's freaking out.
00:59:37.000 She's going to get written out of the will.
00:59:38.000 She needs his ass dead.
00:59:40.000 That's the way it looks.
00:59:41.000 She says shit like this to the private investigator on tape.
00:59:44.000 She'll say, you know, my album's coming out and I started this rumor that I had an OD. She's saying this.
00:59:51.000 But where should I go with this?
00:59:52.000 Should I say it was an OD or should I say no, it wasn't an OD. That was twisted.
00:59:56.000 It was actually me being suicidal because I can't find Kurt.
00:59:58.000 What do you think?
00:59:59.000 And the private investigator's going, I think that's a really, really bad idea.
01:00:03.000 She goes, but it's...
01:00:03.000 It's publicity.
01:00:04.000 It's for my album.
01:00:05.000 It's one of the best documentaries I've ever seen.
01:00:07.000 She's a piece of shit, dude.
01:00:07.000 It's amazing.
01:00:08.000 She's a piece of...
01:00:09.000 It's all on tape.
01:00:10.000 How about their own daughter didn't invite her to her wedding?
01:00:13.000 She got married and didn't...
01:00:14.000 Look at them.
01:00:15.000 The daughter got married and didn't invite her.
01:00:16.000 They do a little bit of a...
01:00:19.000 Not mockumentary, but there's some reenacted scenes.
01:00:21.000 Yeah, they do that.
01:00:22.000 No, they do.
01:00:23.000 It's everything.
01:00:23.000 I agree.
01:00:24.000 That's all nasty.
01:00:25.000 I hate those.
01:00:27.000 No, but it's not.
01:00:28.000 It's a doc, dude.
01:00:29.000 Make no mistake about it.
01:00:30.000 We're selling this!
01:00:31.000 Dude, it's a documentary with evidence.
01:00:34.000 Every forensics expert that they have on that?
01:00:35.000 No, I'm not questioning the actual evidence.
01:00:38.000 I just fucking hate reenactments.
01:00:40.000 They drive me nuts.
01:00:40.000 Me too.
01:00:40.000 It's bad.
01:00:41.000 And he doesn't even look like Kurt Cobain.
01:00:42.000 I'm like, damn it.
01:00:43.000 You know what I love?
01:00:44.000 When they have those fucking TV shows, like 48 Hours or something like that, and they have a reenactment, and then the reenactment dude doesn't look nothing like that.
01:00:51.000 Come on.
01:00:52.000 They like show up with the guns.
01:00:53.000 They did a pretty good job though with like the Courtney and they did a good job.
01:00:56.000 Oh, they had a fake Kurt Cobain.
01:00:57.000 Yeah, it's tough.
01:00:58.000 No!
01:00:58.000 You fucked this, Jamie.
01:01:00.000 No!
01:01:00.000 No, that's not in the movie!
01:01:02.000 Yeah, it is.
01:01:02.000 No!
01:01:03.000 Dude, you don't understand.
01:01:05.000 It's an actual documentary with little scenes.
01:01:08.000 No!
01:01:08.000 It's not the whole thing like that.
01:01:10.000 But why didn't they just use actual photos of Kurt Cobain instead of that?
01:01:13.000 No, they did.
01:01:13.000 They used all that.
01:01:15.000 Courtney wouldn't release anything to him.
01:01:16.000 Courtney tried stopping this documentary from coming out.
01:01:19.000 I don't know if you know that.
01:01:22.000 It's her voice scheming and lying to this private investigator.
01:01:26.000 She knows where he's at.
01:01:28.000 She's pretending that he's missing.
01:01:29.000 She keeps saying that he's suicidal.
01:01:31.000 He bought a shotgun.
01:01:32.000 Jesus Christ.
01:01:34.000 And then the cops, like the former police chief of Seattle where all this happened, he's on the documentary saying, they've got to reopen this thing.
01:01:41.000 They want to reopen the case.
01:01:43.000 All of them.
01:01:43.000 All the forensics.
01:01:43.000 This is true.
01:01:45.000 Even Sober Jamie.
01:01:46.000 I have to turn to Sober Jamie.
01:01:47.000 Yeah.
01:01:47.000 Let's talk to a really good detective.
01:01:50.000 I think he's from LA, or he's been in a lot of major cases, and he's essentially the head.
01:01:55.000 He wrote the book on how to look at a murder investigation, and he's saying, look at this case again.
01:02:01.000 And why they don't, there's a little corruption in the Seattle Police Department, too.
01:02:04.000 She was paying a lot of people, man.
01:02:05.000 They did it all wrong.
01:02:06.000 He said usually for them to say it was a suicide, there's like all the stuff that goes into it.
01:02:11.000 They literally like, nope, suicide.
01:02:13.000 Even the detective was like, what the fuck?
01:02:14.000 That quick?
01:02:15.000 No one's going to do any research?
01:02:16.000 Well, how do you go about bribing cops?
01:02:19.000 Dollar bill, son.
01:02:20.000 But can you just do that?
01:02:22.000 Like, a high-profile case like that, where Kurt Cobain commits suicide, who the fuck would she talk to to hook up some sort of bribery?
01:02:31.000 How do you do something like that?
01:02:32.000 She was a gazillionaire, dude.
01:02:33.000 Hold on, hold on.
01:02:34.000 It was a lot of...
01:02:35.000 Dumbness.
01:02:36.000 Just a lot of bad procedure and a lot of circumstantial dumb things that happened.
01:02:40.000 Sort of like the JonBenet Ramsey case where they just fucked up the murder case.
01:02:44.000 Or the OJ thing.
01:02:44.000 Like they fucked up a bunch of stuff and evidence and then finally like, ah, it's a suicide.
01:02:48.000 Well, the guy, the head detective, the guy that was in charge of everything, he soon got fired or quit, forced to quit for some other scandals.
01:02:56.000 She was known for paying people off.
01:02:58.000 He got in trouble for other shit as well.
01:03:03.000 The guy in charge, the guy who didn't want to look into anything.
01:03:07.000 There was a private investigator.
01:03:08.000 The guy who put the shit together, he went to the lead detective.
01:03:12.000 He was a former cop, this private investigator.
01:03:14.000 He knows proper procedure.
01:03:15.000 He goes up to the guy and says, Hey, listen, I was hired by Courtney Love.
01:03:21.000 I've been on this case for the last month.
01:03:24.000 You need to talk to me.
01:03:25.000 And I got a lot of shit.
01:03:27.000 And the guy didn't want to talk to him.
01:03:28.000 Wow.
01:03:29.000 You wouldn't talk to him.
01:03:29.000 That's true.
01:03:30.000 I like your enthusiasm.
01:03:32.000 Dude, you're scaring me.
01:03:33.000 I don't want to watch that.
01:03:34.000 Oh, dude.
01:03:34.000 I'm scared.
01:03:35.000 What if I run into her somewhere?
01:03:37.000 We're going to have to kill her.
01:03:38.000 Dude, I think the world is going to turn on her, dude.
01:03:40.000 I know.
01:03:40.000 Let's get her a chip.
01:03:40.000 The world is going to turn on her, dude.
01:03:41.000 Let's get her a chip.
01:03:42.000 The world is going to turn on her.
01:03:43.000 Thank God this is a comedy podcast.
01:03:45.000 Oh, I know, right?
01:03:45.000 I don't think the world is because we're just finding out about it.
01:03:48.000 It's been out for a while.
01:03:49.000 When did it come out?
01:03:51.000 I saw it on a laptop a while ago.
01:03:53.000 But that's now.
01:03:53.000 It's almost over.
01:03:54.000 2015 is becoming 2016. No, they just made it available on Netflix.
01:03:58.000 We're talking about it now.
01:03:59.000 They just made it available on Netflix.
01:04:00.000 I heard about it on the OPE channel earlier this year.
01:04:03.000 They interviewed the director.
01:04:04.000 How long ago was this?
01:04:05.000 The summer.
01:04:06.000 See, that's what I'm worried about.
01:04:07.000 But it just hit Netflix just now.
01:04:08.000 Yeah, it just hit Netflix.
01:04:09.000 Well, that might just be it.
01:04:11.000 Netflix is the motherfucker of motherfuckers when it comes to spreading shit.
01:04:14.000 And then JRE? I mean, we're talking about it right now.
01:04:16.000 Go check it out.
01:04:16.000 That's right.
01:04:17.000 We're talking about it on the JRE. I said we send a chimp to our house.
01:04:22.000 A horny chip.
01:04:23.000 Just a chip in a robe.
01:04:24.000 With a fucking jug of wine.
01:04:26.000 And a bottle of pills.
01:04:28.000 What's up, bitch?
01:04:28.000 And a bottle of Viagra.
01:04:30.000 And a Nirvana shirt.
01:04:31.000 And a cold blue steel chip dick.
01:04:34.000 Oh my god.
01:04:35.000 With the one with the baby in the water.
01:04:37.000 That shirt.
01:04:38.000 Fucking epic.
01:04:39.000 Man, I can't believe you really think that shit.
01:04:41.000 You know what's crazy to me?
01:04:42.000 I mean, I've done my best, and we've all fucked up in life, but I've done my best to try to avoid total nightmare-type relationships like that.
01:04:51.000 Oh, for sure.
01:04:51.000 That seems like not just a nightmare relationship, but a nightmare, if that is true, with a completely insane person who's willing to not just fake things for publicity, but possibly, you know, they're insinuating, allegedly killing him, right?
01:05:04.000 There's a lot of jealousy there, too.
01:05:06.000 But look what a brilliant fucking musician he was.
01:05:08.000 Oh, amazing.
01:05:08.000 Amazing.
01:05:09.000 It just kills you the idea that some unbelievably brilliant guy gets shacked up with some knucklehead.
01:05:16.000 Like, that's what drove everybody crazy about Yoko Ono and John Lennon.
01:05:19.000 Like, how?
01:05:20.000 How?
01:05:21.000 How was that the way?
01:05:22.000 I don't know if that was the Wedge and the Beatles.
01:05:24.000 We weren't there.
01:05:24.000 I'm just guessing, but that's what everybody says.
01:05:26.000 Is there any way you could pick a hotter girl?
01:05:28.000 Eddie didn't even talk about the suicide note.
01:05:30.000 Oh, the suicide note!
01:05:32.000 Check this out!
01:05:33.000 Preach, Eddie!
01:05:34.000 The suicide note that was supposedly found...
01:05:36.000 How dare you, Jamie.
01:05:39.000 The first half of it, it wasn't even about his music and all this.
01:05:44.000 It didn't sound like a suicide note.
01:05:46.000 Then at the end, she pieced it together, practiced his signature in her backpack.
01:05:51.000 They found her practicing.
01:05:54.000 Her practicing.
01:05:55.000 She wrote that shit.
01:05:57.000 Oh my god, so a lot of it was other stuff and then she wrote at the bottom.
01:06:00.000 I love you, I love you, I love you.
01:06:01.000 He was divorcing her and writing her out of the will.
01:06:03.000 Yes.
01:06:04.000 He was divorcing her and that's a fact.
01:06:06.000 Correct.
01:06:06.000 Talking about leaving Nirvana too, supposedly.
01:06:08.000 Yeah.
01:06:10.000 Whoa, so she washed his handwriting on the paper and wrote something at the bottom of a paper that he had written on.
01:06:18.000 Yeah, it doesn't even match up, they're saying.
01:06:19.000 Forensic scientists say it doesn't even match up.
01:06:21.000 She wanted to make it seem like it was something that he really wrote.
01:06:25.000 So she was trying to blend it all in together.
01:06:27.000 Oh my god, that is fucking terrifying.
01:06:29.000 Some dark shit, man.
01:06:30.000 Is this possible?
01:06:32.000 I mean, there's a reason Dave Grohl Man, I'm 100% convinced she was involved in it somehow.
01:06:40.000 She set it up.
01:06:41.000 She set it up.
01:06:43.000 Do you think this is going to be like that movie The Jinx?
01:06:46.000 How The Jinx took down that murderer dude, that TV show?
01:06:48.000 Yes.
01:06:49.000 Yes.
01:06:50.000 You think so?
01:06:50.000 Man.
01:06:51.000 How crazy would it be in our lifetime if all of a sudden Courtney Love winds up getting arrested and convicted for Kurt Cobain's murder and then you start thinking about all the guys that publicly dated her?
01:07:01.000 Like Ed Norton?
01:07:02.000 Ed Norton.
01:07:02.000 Oh, that's right.
01:07:03.000 That fucking guy was dating her after the suicide.
01:07:07.000 Alleged suicide.
01:07:08.000 A lot of rock stars.
01:07:09.000 Billy Corgan, Twiggy Ramirez.
01:07:12.000 Didn't Billy Corgan have a giant falling out with her?
01:07:15.000 He helped her write that one brilliant album.
01:07:18.000 Well, her first album that Kurt wrote, that's a Nirvana album.
01:07:22.000 Which one is that?
01:07:22.000 What song was in it?
01:07:25.000 Doll parts.
01:07:26.000 Oh, that's a great one.
01:07:27.000 That was a great album.
01:07:28.000 That was so good.
01:07:29.000 And people on the inside know that Kurt put that shit together for her.
01:07:32.000 Man, it seems like it because it's brilliant.
01:07:33.000 So she didn't want to do it.
01:07:35.000 He was brilliant.
01:07:35.000 He dies.
01:07:36.000 That album blows up.
01:07:37.000 It was all perfect timing.
01:07:38.000 She becomes this huge star.
01:07:40.000 Doesn't want to put out...
01:07:43.000 Doesn't want to put out another album and she's banging Billy Corgan.
01:07:46.000 This is according to Billy Corgan on Howard Stern.
01:07:48.000 He said that he had to convince her to make another album.
01:07:52.000 She was afraid, of course, because she knew it wasn't going to live up to that first album.
01:07:55.000 So Billy...
01:07:57.000 Put that album together and wrote most of it.
01:07:59.000 And he convinced her to do it and help her put it all together.
01:08:02.000 He's a brilliant songwriter.
01:08:03.000 Dave Grohl doesn't even fuck with her.
01:08:04.000 Exactly.
01:08:05.000 There was an HBO Kurt Cobain documentary, which is brilliant.
01:08:08.000 The way it was done was amazing.
01:08:09.000 But he wouldn't even take...
01:08:10.000 He wanted nothing to do with it.
01:08:12.000 This one or that one.
01:08:13.000 He wanted nothing to do with it.
01:08:14.000 This is scary.
01:08:15.000 It is scary shit.
01:08:16.000 Scary shit.
01:08:16.000 Yeah.
01:08:17.000 It's scary that someone could become a murderer and just integrate right back into pop culture.
01:08:23.000 She got away with it for so long.
01:08:24.000 She got away with it for so long.
01:08:26.000 But this isn't the first documentary.
01:08:29.000 I remember I watched one a few years back where there was another guy that was accusing her of murdering.
01:08:34.000 Yeah, and in that documentary was all conspiracy theory status back then.
01:08:39.000 This private investigator, he plays a little part in it, but he didn't release any of the tapes.
01:08:44.000 He had all the tapes.
01:08:45.000 He has hours and hours of their conversations with her just bullshitting and lying the whole time.
01:08:50.000 He catches her in so many lies.
01:08:52.000 This is so scary.
01:08:55.000 I'm getting nervous.
01:08:56.000 I get nervous when I talk about this.
01:08:57.000 Imagine someone alive that does that and fills him up with heroin and writes his love.
01:09:03.000 Can't do it twice, though.
01:09:04.000 Suicide, no.
01:09:05.000 Blows his brains out.
01:09:06.000 Whatever the fuck.
01:09:06.000 She did it once.
01:09:08.000 I agree.
01:09:08.000 If she really did do it once, and that happened, and what year was that happening?
01:09:12.000 What year was that?
01:09:13.000 Like, 94, 93. But check this out.
01:09:15.000 Their nanny was a guy that used to fuck her.
01:09:20.000 Preach.
01:09:21.000 Come on.
01:09:22.000 Come on!
01:09:23.000 Yes!
01:09:23.000 It's true.
01:09:24.000 When they were married or before they were married?
01:09:28.000 No, while they were married.
01:09:30.000 While they were married.
01:09:31.000 Whoa, the darkness continues and rolls into the fog.
01:09:35.000 Kurt Cobain, one of the greats.
01:09:37.000 Dude, when you hear her voice conniving, she's a master at handling the press.
01:09:42.000 Everything back then was coming from MTV, like all the news, and it was all coming from her directly.
01:09:48.000 She was all over that shit.
01:09:49.000 So she was putting out all this.
01:09:50.000 Everybody that knows him, everybody that knew him really well said he was not suicidal.
01:09:54.000 His family, they interview his family and friends, they're like, Kurt was 100% not suicidal.
01:09:59.000 He put on this whole grunge thing.
01:10:01.000 He was not suicidal.
01:10:03.000 Jesus Christ, this is fucking terrifying.
01:10:04.000 They said a lot of times he killed himself because he had that stomach issue.
01:10:08.000 That was gone.
01:10:09.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:10:10.000 That was cured.
01:10:11.000 What stomach issue?
01:10:13.000 He had a stomach problem.
01:10:14.000 Intestine issue.
01:10:15.000 He would say, man.
01:10:15.000 Intestine?
01:10:16.000 Sorry, intestine.
01:10:18.000 There was a statement he made that said that it made him want to kill himself, the pain.
01:10:24.000 People say shit like that.
01:10:26.000 Exactly.
01:10:27.000 She ran with it.
01:10:28.000 She would run with that stuff.
01:10:29.000 But you're saying he was cured at that time.
01:10:31.000 Yeah, it was all coming from her.
01:10:32.000 You gotta watch it.
01:10:33.000 I can't.
01:10:34.000 I'm scared.
01:10:35.000 I'm terrified.
01:10:36.000 Spoiler alert, he dies at the end.
01:10:38.000 What?
01:10:38.000 Yes.
01:10:39.000 Yeah, man.
01:10:39.000 She did it, though.
01:10:40.000 Did you ever see the photos they released on the internet?
01:10:42.000 Those autopsy photos?
01:10:44.000 I get into that.
01:10:45.000 It's almost like, what if you found out that Jimi Hendrix was murdered by the CIA or something?
01:10:49.000 You know what I mean?
01:10:50.000 There's a Jimi Hendrix book.
01:10:52.000 Jimi Hendrix's former bodyguard is a guy who says that Jimi Hendrix was murdered by his former manager because he was leaving his manager.
01:10:59.000 And that same manager killed Jimi Hendrix's girlfriend.
01:11:02.000 God, what?
01:11:03.000 Jimi Hendrix's girlfriend.
01:11:04.000 Holy shit!
01:11:04.000 A lot of people don't know.
01:11:05.000 After Jimi Hendrix died, his girlfriend was thrown off a roof in Soho.
01:11:10.000 Yeah, they said she committed suicide, but this guy says they threw her off a roof because she knows that they killed Jimmy because Jimmy was leaving his manager.
01:11:18.000 This is one thing the manager did do, okay?
01:11:20.000 The manager had Jimmy kidnapped, had Jimmy kidnapped and then rescued him to show him that Jimmy needed him.
01:11:28.000 So the manager had Jimi Hendrix fucking kidnapped.
01:11:32.000 Is this fact or a conspiracy theory?
01:11:34.000 I don't know.
01:11:34.000 I wasn't there, obviously.
01:11:35.000 But this is according to this guy, and apparently the kidnap story has been said before.
01:11:43.000 Such a shame, man.
01:11:45.000 These brilliant, brilliant artists.
01:11:47.000 Well, that happens, though.
01:11:48.000 These manager characters, especially in the old days of show business, I mean, think about what we were talking about in the 60s.
01:11:54.000 The 60s is just 20 years removed from the fucking 40s.
01:11:58.000 Sure.
01:11:58.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:11:59.000 I mean, think about the 40s.
01:12:00.000 The 40s are just 20 years removed.
01:12:02.000 We can go back and back until we get the Gangs of New York, right?
01:12:05.000 The crazy fucking movie with...
01:12:07.000 Brilliant.
01:12:07.000 Yeah.
01:12:07.000 Daniel Day-Lewis.
01:12:09.000 Yeah.
01:12:09.000 Killing each other with that.
01:12:10.000 We're talking about a different era of humanity.
01:12:13.000 It was easy to kill people back then.
01:12:14.000 In the 1960s, the people that were running show business, there was a lot of gangsters in the music business, like legitimate gangsters that would get involved in the career of Frank Sinatra, that would get involved in the career of a lot of different artists.
01:12:27.000 It was very, very common, because they could make a lot of money, and they liked being big shots.
01:12:31.000 And they liked saying, hey, I'm Jimi Hendrix's manager.
01:12:33.000 Let me in the door, please.
01:12:35.000 And these fucking people infiltrated.
01:12:37.000 Like that fucking guy that was in, the producer, that was in with the Beatles.
01:12:40.000 The guy who shot the chick in the mouth.
01:12:43.000 The guy who wore the crazy wigs.
01:12:44.000 What the fuck is his name?
01:12:45.000 The wall of sound guy.
01:12:47.000 The producer.
01:12:48.000 What's that?
01:12:48.000 Phil Spector.
01:12:50.000 Yes, Phil Spector.
01:12:51.000 Here's a guy who used to always pull guns on people.
01:12:54.000 He was a producer for the fucking Beatles.
01:12:56.000 He had a very distinctive style of recording music.
01:12:59.000 They used to call it the wall of sound, right?
01:13:01.000 That's probably the real reason they quit.
01:13:03.000 Well, this guy shot a fucking woman in the mouth in Hollywood a few years back.
01:13:08.000 Took her back to his place, put a gun in her mouth, and pulled the fucking trigger and blew her brains out.
01:13:11.000 Jesus Christ, man.
01:13:12.000 Some hottie that he picked up at, like, what was it, like House of Blues or something?
01:13:16.000 Or Sky Bar or something like that?
01:13:18.000 But right across the street from the Comedy Store is where he met her.
01:13:21.000 Took her up to his mansion, blew her fucking brains out.
01:13:24.000 And they, you know, they tried him and convicted him, but this guy was probably doing that his whole career, because that was the rumor, was that he would strong-arm people with guns.
01:13:33.000 Like, I think that was, like, super common in the music business.
01:13:35.000 I think...
01:13:37.000 Violence and the threat of violence kept a lot of people in business.
01:13:41.000 I think what people allege that Suge Knight did, I think that's just a rap version of it.
01:13:46.000 I think people have been doing that forever.
01:13:49.000 It's crazy, man.
01:13:50.000 So what she's done, what she did, has probably been done before, if she did it.
01:13:55.000 I agree.
01:13:55.000 Well, you guys think she did it.
01:13:57.000 100%.
01:13:57.000 God, that's crazy.
01:13:58.000 You know, the John Lennon assassination conspiracy theory, you know, that the CIA had him killed.
01:14:05.000 There's a lot of shit on that.
01:14:07.000 Did you see the guy who did it, though?
01:14:10.000 How crazy he is?
01:14:11.000 You can get someone who's crazy to do things for you.
01:14:16.000 Here's a perfect example.
01:14:17.000 The FBI arrested this guy in Dallas for making a fake bomb and trying to detonate it.
01:14:24.000 But the FBI gave him that bomb.
01:14:27.000 The whole story's hilarious.
01:14:28.000 They found some really fucking stupid dude.
01:14:30.000 They talked him into doing something he probably never would have done.
01:14:34.000 They literally sold him all the equipment to go and do this.
01:14:38.000 Or they gave him all the equipment.
01:14:39.000 They gave him a cell phone to activate.
01:14:40.000 To do what?
01:14:41.000 Well, he was going to blow up some building.
01:14:43.000 God damn it.
01:14:44.000 But here's the technique.
01:14:45.000 But here's the thing.
01:14:46.000 He never was going to.
01:14:48.000 It was never his idea.
01:14:49.000 They talked him into doing it.
01:14:50.000 They scheduled the whole thing.
01:14:52.000 They got him the equipment.
01:14:53.000 Then they arrested him!
01:14:54.000 Yeah, but they created a crime.
01:14:56.000 Yeah, but you don't think with John Lennon, this homeboy's crazy.
01:14:59.000 You don't think he's going to sing like a canary when he's in prison?
01:15:02.000 You've got to look into it.
01:15:03.000 Who knows?
01:15:04.000 You've got to look into it, man.
01:15:05.000 Listen, here's the thing.
01:15:06.000 You don't get to sing if they don't let you talk.
01:15:08.000 When was the last time you saw an interview with the guy who killed John Lennon?
01:15:11.000 Well, he's done interviews, though.
01:15:11.000 Has he done it since the murder?
01:15:13.000 Yeah.
01:15:14.000 Well, you've got to look into it.
01:15:16.000 It's just like the soaked in bleach.
01:15:19.000 It's just as crazy as the soaked in bleach.
01:15:21.000 You know what I mean?
01:15:22.000 If you looked into it, if someone would tell you about it, you'd be like, oh, I don't know.
01:15:25.000 You don't think he was crazy?
01:15:27.000 Let me say this.
01:15:29.000 I don't think...
01:15:30.000 I don't have any...
01:15:31.000 I don't even have an opinion on the John Lennon thing.
01:15:33.000 I've never heard it before until Eddie brought it up.
01:15:36.000 I never...
01:15:36.000 I mean, I might have peripherally heard someone said.
01:15:38.000 See, I know no details, though.
01:15:40.000 None.
01:15:40.000 Zero zilch.
01:15:41.000 But that said...
01:15:43.000 If they wanted to kill someone, one of the best ways would be get some crazy person and infiltrate them even without their knowledge.
01:15:51.000 I agree.
01:15:52.000 You can provide them with a weapon, talk them into doing it, and there's a lot of fucking morons out there.
01:15:56.000 I agree.
01:15:57.000 Sirhan, sirhan, the guy who allegedly killed Robert F. Kennedy, he doesn't have any recollection of it happening.
01:16:05.000 What he says is, everyone says that I shot him, so I probably did.
01:16:09.000 Everyone said they saw me shoot him, but I don't remember anything.
01:16:12.000 Well, how about that scopolamine stuff, that Colombian devil's...
01:16:15.000 What do they call it?
01:16:17.000 Colombian devil's dust?
01:16:19.000 Dust?
01:16:20.000 Devil's breath.
01:16:21.000 Yeah, devil's breath.
01:16:22.000 Thank you.
01:16:22.000 There's this shit that they can blow.
01:16:24.000 They literally can blow it in your nose.
01:16:25.000 They blow it on you.
01:16:26.000 If you breathe it in...
01:16:27.000 You die?
01:16:27.000 You become a zombie.
01:16:29.000 You do what they tell you to do, and you have no memory of it.
01:16:31.000 Like, I'll blow it on you, and I'll say, Brennan Schaub, help me move my couch.
01:16:34.000 And then all of a sudden, you're fucking carrying the couch up the stairs like a zombie.
01:16:37.000 I'm not bullshitting, man.
01:16:38.000 That's real.
01:16:40.000 100%.
01:16:40.000 100% real.
01:16:41.000 You'll put the couch down.
01:16:42.000 Now, here's what's really crazy.
01:16:43.000 That same stuff that they use is the same shit they put in Dramamine.
01:16:47.000 And those little patches when you're getting seasick.
01:16:50.000 They give you like a little patch, and it's like a little tiny amount of this, I think it's called scopolamine, I think that's how you say it.
01:16:55.000 But it's the same active ingredient as those patches that they give you to keep you from fucking getting seasick.
01:17:00.000 Jesus Christ, man!
01:17:02.000 Devil dust!
01:17:03.000 Well, there's some stuff!
01:17:04.000 I need to get my hands on it.
01:17:05.000 If they have a blow, they blow it in your face, and they think that that might have been where the legend of zombies came from.
01:17:12.000 And that's why zombies, like, it was always like a Haitian thing, they always would talk about zombies, Haitian, Colombia.
01:17:18.000 Yeah.
01:17:18.000 I don't know if it's this area that had this plant, but they think that people have been using this on people for years.
01:17:25.000 And it wasn't until like really recently that they realized the effects of this stuff.
01:17:29.000 Like pharmacologists started to examine the effects of blowing this shit on people.
01:17:33.000 Is there a short video on that?
01:17:34.000 Oh yeah, yeah.
01:17:34.000 Vice has a whole documentary on it.
01:17:36.000 What?
01:17:36.000 They have a whole thing on it.
01:17:37.000 Dude!
01:17:38.000 You'll trip your balls off.
01:17:39.000 I think I did see it.
01:17:40.000 It's scary stuff.
01:17:41.000 But I thought it's illegal, but I didn't see I didn't see in the documentary I didn't see like a test like testing people or any kind of I don't remember it's quite a while ago where I saw it I've watched too many documentaries they all go in and out there's no room I have no room in my hard drive.
01:17:59.000 I gotta start deleting memories in my childhood.
01:18:01.000 Oh, I'm filling my shit up.
01:18:02.000 I'm trying fast Got to hang out with you guys, filling it up.
01:18:05.000 Yeah, but the problem is, like, stuff goes in and out now.
01:18:08.000 It's like some stuff, like, MMA stuff seems to stick like glue.
01:18:11.000 Yeah, I know.
01:18:11.000 And there's a few things about other things that stick like glue.
01:18:14.000 But then there's occasional documentaries that are really interesting that just, in and out.
01:18:18.000 Got no room.
01:18:19.000 I agree.
01:18:19.000 You know what's weird is when I was a kid I clicked football cards and I can remember almost to a T every player what college you played in.
01:18:26.000 It's useless information for whatever reason it stuck with me.
01:18:29.000 It's fucking weird man.
01:18:31.000 I remember weird shit.
01:18:32.000 We all do.
01:18:33.000 There's like stuff that doesn't make any sense.
01:18:35.000 Why do I know this?
01:18:36.000 For sure.
01:18:36.000 Why do I remember this?
01:18:38.000 Come on, man.
01:18:39.000 Let's go here.
01:18:40.000 Like the plot line of a Tom Selleck show.
01:18:42.000 You know, like Magnum P.I. I can remember whole plot lines.
01:18:44.000 Really?
01:18:45.000 Why do I need that?
01:18:46.000 Why do I need that?
01:18:46.000 Wow.
01:18:47.000 The fucking dude who flew the helicopter and he's helping him out and then there's the butler guy who lets him use the Ferrari and gets in trouble with it.
01:18:53.000 Most of my vocabulary is from Ace Ventura or Adam Sandler.
01:18:57.000 How fucking weird is that?
01:18:59.000 That's hilarious.
01:19:00.000 Weird.
01:19:00.000 My brain was like, yeah, let's download this.
01:19:02.000 He might need this later.
01:19:03.000 What part of Ace Ventura?
01:19:04.000 Like what?
01:19:06.000 I mean, I'll use all of it, man.
01:19:07.000 Like what?
01:19:08.000 Just a couple of them.
01:19:09.000 Alrighty then.
01:19:10.000 Yeah, alrighty then.
01:19:12.000 You know when he does the thing where he's like, and he has a dream, and he's like, you bit me right here, and he goes, rah!
01:19:19.000 I do that all the time.
01:19:20.000 Literally all the time.
01:19:21.000 If I was you, I'd say for sure stop doing that.
01:19:24.000 I know, man.
01:19:25.000 I know.
01:19:27.000 100% you want to stop doing that.
01:19:29.000 100%.
01:19:29.000 I constantly quote.
01:19:32.000 Hollywood Shuffle, man.
01:19:33.000 Have you ever seen that?
01:19:34.000 I have not.
01:19:34.000 It's, you know, Keenan Ivory Wands and Robert Townsend, their first movie that they put together with credit cards and shit.
01:19:41.000 Super crazy low budget.
01:19:43.000 It's fucking hysterical.
01:19:45.000 It's called Hollywood Shuffle.
01:19:46.000 You remember I'm Gonna Get You, Sucka?
01:19:47.000 Yeah, that's when they started making money.
01:19:50.000 Because of Hollywood Shuffle, that kind of, that was an underground hit.
01:19:53.000 Whatever.
01:19:53.000 That never happened to Robert Townsend, dude.
01:19:56.000 He had a hit TV show.
01:19:58.000 He probably has a billion dollars.
01:20:00.000 Yeah, but I mean that guy...
01:20:01.000 What hit TV show did he have?
01:20:03.000 What is it?
01:20:04.000 I think it was called The Parenthood.
01:20:05.000 Yeah.
01:20:05.000 When the WB just started up.
01:20:07.000 Listen, he definitely didn't make a billion dollars.
01:20:09.000 No!
01:20:09.000 I'll tell you right now.
01:20:10.000 The WB ain't paying me a billion.
01:20:11.000 But he used to do like these comedy specials like Robert Townsend Presents.
01:20:15.000 Yeah.
01:20:15.000 And they were like Damon would go on and do like 10 Minutes and all these different comics would go on.
01:20:18.000 But he was a famous like celebrated guy back then.
01:20:22.000 Yeah.
01:20:22.000 Maybe he just got tired of the bullshit, man.
01:20:24.000 Maybe he just got tired of the spotlight.
01:20:26.000 You said, fuck it.
01:20:27.000 That happened to a lot of those guys.
01:20:28.000 He might be producing shit.
01:20:30.000 He very well could be.
01:20:31.000 Because that's what Keenan's doing.
01:20:32.000 Keenan's behind the scenes.
01:20:33.000 Yeah, they probably get tired of the bullshit, man.
01:20:35.000 Some guys say, fuck it, right?
01:20:37.000 Yeah, they go, what is the benefit of this?
01:20:39.000 Yeah, like Dave Chappelle.
01:20:40.000 Look at him.
01:20:41.000 Look what he's doing, man.
01:20:42.000 He stopped doing anything.
01:20:43.000 He doesn't put anything out.
01:20:45.000 No specials.
01:20:46.000 He's doing stand-up though.
01:20:47.000 Kills it.
01:20:48.000 Still writing.
01:20:49.000 Legend.
01:20:50.000 You gotta go see him live to see it, which is kind of crazy.
01:20:53.000 It's kind of cool.
01:20:54.000 The one time he showed up at the comedy store maybe eight years ago in the main room, man, I've never seen you so blown away.
01:21:03.000 He was killing.
01:21:04.000 Usually you're in the back going, this guy fucking eats dicks or something.
01:21:09.000 You walk out.
01:21:10.000 It's very hard to impress you.
01:21:13.000 That's a gross mischaracterization of how I look at comedians.
01:21:18.000 Bad ones.
01:21:19.000 But very few are really good that I'll sit down there and watch.
01:21:25.000 I'm just exaggerating.
01:21:27.000 But for me, that's not a good exaggeration.
01:21:31.000 There's, like, guys that I'll definitely go see if they're there.
01:21:33.000 Like, Bill Burr, I'll see him every time he's there.
01:21:35.000 It's hilarious.
01:21:35.000 There's, like, there's a few guys that are, like, really good.
01:21:36.000 I was talking about, like, open micers.
01:21:38.000 That's what I meant.
01:21:39.000 Well, of course.
01:21:40.000 But when Dave Chappelle came on, dude, you, when it was over, we were dying so hard, when it was over, you turned around and you had this look on your, you walked out of the comedy store and you said, I've never been so inspired in all my life.
01:21:52.000 You just wanted to go home and write jokes and shit.
01:21:54.000 You were really inspired.
01:21:55.000 When I see someone really good, that's the first instinct, right?
01:21:57.000 Like, man.
01:21:58.000 I want to hit another level now.
01:21:59.000 I want to go home and write.
01:22:01.000 I want to get my fucking thoughts in order.
01:22:05.000 That's one of the best things about living in L.A. You get to see all these really great guys go up.
01:22:10.000 You get to see these people go up and you go, God.
01:22:12.000 I really think everybody sort of feeds off each other in that regard.
01:22:16.000 You'll watch, like Louis C.K. did two nights at the Comedy Store this week.
01:22:20.000 You know, he did like, I think he did Sunday and Monday night.
01:22:23.000 And then, you know, like, they'll have a show on Tuesday or Wednesday nights.
01:22:27.000 A girl will be there or, you know, some of the other great guys that are in town.
01:22:31.000 It's just one of the places, one of the few places, maybe there's only one other one.
01:22:36.000 I think maybe New York, that could happen.
01:22:38.000 Like, on a regular basis, you'll see, like, top-level headliners.
01:22:42.000 Over and over and over like that.
01:22:43.000 Don't you say it's the best time?
01:22:44.000 I think it's the best time for comedy ever.
01:22:46.000 I think there's never been more really funny comics than right now.
01:22:50.000 As far as me, as a fan, say if I never did stand-up again, or I never did it at all, I just watched it, I just looked around, and I compare this era to any other era.
01:23:00.000 Even people I don't know.
01:23:03.000 Take Aria out of the mix and Joey out of the mix and all the people I think are hilarious.
01:23:06.000 I still think this is the best time ever.
01:23:08.000 I look around at all these fucking people.
01:23:11.000 There's so many.
01:23:12.000 Stanhope and Burr and Dave Attell and Louis C.K. and Chappelle.
01:23:16.000 You could keep going.
01:23:18.000 Ian Edwards.
01:23:18.000 A lot of people don't even know about Ian Edwards.
01:23:20.000 He's a beast.
01:23:21.000 He's a fucking monster.
01:23:22.000 He's so funny.
01:23:23.000 Super monster, yeah.
01:23:23.000 And there's a bunch of those guys, man.
01:23:26.000 There's guys like that in Austin, Texas.
01:23:27.000 There's guys like that in Denver.
01:23:28.000 There's guys like that in New York.
01:23:30.000 There's guys like that in Boston.
01:23:32.000 This is a really unusual time.
01:23:34.000 Super unusual time.
01:23:35.000 I think it's because of the internet.
01:23:36.000 Because people can watch other people do stand-up now.
01:23:39.000 You can see everybody set ever.
01:23:41.000 You could watch a Richard Pryor thing, then an Eddie Murphy thing.
01:23:45.000 Every guy you mentioned right there, I wish I had a YouTube video that was like a three-hour video of just all the guys you said.
01:23:52.000 Because anybody that impresses you, that's the one thing I knew.
01:23:54.000 If they impressed you, they gotta be good.
01:23:56.000 Well, they're on YouTube, Eddie.
01:23:58.000 Bill Burr impresses the shit out of you right now.
01:24:00.000 I want one video, a mix of all those guys.
01:24:03.000 Burr impresses the fucking shit out of me right now, but as does Stanhope.
01:24:06.000 Every time I see Stanhope, I want to go right.
01:24:08.000 You know, he's another guy that inspires the shit out of me.
01:24:10.000 We had Burr on the podcast today, and you know, I love comedians, man.
01:24:14.000 I watch all their stuff, all you guys.
01:24:16.000 And I think it was the first podcast where it's the least amount of time I've ever spent talking.
01:24:22.000 He just went.
01:24:23.000 Oh, yeah.
01:24:23.000 I was like, do your fucking thing, man.
01:24:24.000 Well, he does that on my podcast, too.
01:24:27.000 He'll joke around about it, being OCD or ADD or whatever the fuck he is, but it's real.
01:24:32.000 It's real.
01:24:32.000 He'll go from one subject to the next subject to the next subject before you even get a word in.
01:24:38.000 He'll just keep changing subjects.
01:24:40.000 Boom, boom, boom.
01:24:41.000 But it's one of the reasons why is because he does his own podcast by himself.
01:24:45.000 He's one of the few guys that does a podcast.
01:24:47.000 He does it called the Monday Morning Podcast and he does it on Thursday too.
01:24:50.000 And what he does is he just turns on his iPhone or his microphone and just starts talking.
01:24:55.000 It goes.
01:24:55.000 That makes sense.
01:24:56.000 You go for like an hour and a half.
01:24:57.000 Bill Burr.
01:24:58.000 So for an hour and a half, he just ADDs the fuck out and talks about...
01:25:02.000 He'll do a fucking...
01:25:03.000 I can't...
01:25:04.000 I don't watch football, so I don't pay attention, but he'll do fucking an hour on the Patriots, you know, and just go off about scores and...
01:25:12.000 He's crazy.
01:25:14.000 But hilarious.
01:25:15.000 His podcast is good.
01:25:18.000 His stand-up is amazing.
01:25:19.000 His stand-up is amongst the best ever right now.
01:25:23.000 He's one of the best ever.
01:25:25.000 And I think that between him and, like I said, you can just keep going down the line.
01:25:29.000 Like Kevin Hart.
01:25:30.000 Kevin Hart, he's the most successful guy ever.
01:25:33.000 Most successful tour ever.
01:25:35.000 Yeah, ever.
01:25:36.000 Yeah, ever.
01:25:37.000 Ever by far, I think.
01:25:38.000 I think he's doing a thing in Philadelphia where he did it.
01:25:41.000 I don't know if he's gonna do it or did do it.
01:25:42.000 He's gonna do it.
01:25:43.000 50,000 seats, and it had already sold like 40,000 seats, like months out.
01:25:46.000 That's where he ends his tour, yeah.
01:25:48.000 It's insane.
01:25:49.000 He's giant.
01:25:49.000 He's just giant.
01:25:50.000 Who's that black comedian that kind of went crazy for that?
01:25:53.000 Cat Williams.
01:25:53.000 Cat Williams.
01:25:54.000 What's his current status?
01:25:56.000 He did a special like I want to say a year and a half ago with Spike Lee, like Spike Lee directed it and it was pretty good.
01:26:04.000 It was pretty good.
01:26:06.000 But, you know, he went through a real bad spell where he seemed like he was kind of losing his mind.
01:26:12.000 Yeah, I saw him live in Bakersfield, man.
01:26:14.000 Oh, you did?
01:26:15.000 Yeah, he had a meltdown on stage.
01:26:16.000 Recently or no?
01:26:17.000 This is when all that shit was going down maybe two years ago.
01:26:20.000 You saw him have a meltdown?
01:26:21.000 Fuck yeah!
01:26:21.000 There was no comedy going on.
01:26:24.000 How big was the place?
01:26:25.000 I don't know if he was on drugs or anything.
01:26:27.000 That's where he filmed his special, I think.
01:26:29.000 No, no, no.
01:26:30.000 I thought it was in Australia or Ontario.
01:26:32.000 Ontario, California.
01:26:33.000 Oh, no, no.
01:26:34.000 This is Bakersfield, man.
01:26:35.000 Really?
01:26:36.000 He was just sweating and doing push-ups on stage and running out in the audience.
01:26:40.000 No jokes!
01:26:41.000 He was just like...
01:26:42.000 It's pretty crazy.
01:26:43.000 So how long did this go on for?
01:26:45.000 Me and my wife left.
01:26:47.000 He's losing his mind.
01:26:48.000 This is not even a show.
01:26:50.000 What was the audience doing?
01:26:52.000 They weren't laughing.
01:26:54.000 So how long did he do it for?
01:26:56.000 How long did you guys stay?
01:26:57.000 I left after a half hour.
01:26:59.000 I couldn't take it.
01:27:02.000 So for a half an hour, he's just doing push-ups and running around?
01:27:05.000 Yeah, I thought he was like setting up the show and he's running around and he's talking about it.
01:27:09.000 And he lost his mind, 100%.
01:27:11.000 And all that shit was going down.
01:27:13.000 I don't know, was it Suge Knight involved somehow?
01:27:15.000 Something was going down.
01:27:16.000 I don't know.
01:27:17.000 He had a funny bit in his special.
01:27:19.000 He was so funny.
01:27:20.000 You know you're fucked up when you're getting arrested and Suge Knight's right next to you.
01:27:25.000 He's hilarious to me.
01:27:26.000 And not arresting him.
01:27:27.000 He's hilarious to me.
01:27:29.000 And not arresting him.
01:27:30.000 He's so funny.
01:27:31.000 He's very funny.
01:27:32.000 Oh man, yeah.
01:27:33.000 He's very funny.
01:27:34.000 Before that happened, he was on fire.
01:27:36.000 I couldn't wait to see him.
01:27:37.000 I'm so excited.
01:27:38.000 I love Cat Williams.
01:27:39.000 He's hilarious.
01:27:39.000 He's so good.
01:27:40.000 When he was on, he was one of the best.
01:27:42.000 What about Pablo Francisco?
01:27:43.000 Is he still around?
01:27:44.000 I saw Pablo maybe four or five months ago at the Comedy Store.
01:27:48.000 Yeah.
01:27:48.000 Tracy Morgan's back.
01:27:50.000 Tracy Morgan.
01:27:51.000 He started doing stand-up again, but I don't think he's touring.
01:27:54.000 I know he did the Comedy Cellar.
01:27:56.000 It was like the first time since the accident he did that place.
01:27:59.000 What happened in the accident exactly?
01:28:01.000 They got hit by a guy who fell asleep while he was driving a semi.
01:28:05.000 Walmart, right?
01:28:06.000 He got hit by a semi?
01:28:08.000 They got hit in their limo by a semi.
01:28:11.000 Yeah, and one of the guys with him died.
01:28:13.000 His boy died.
01:28:14.000 His buddy died, and another guy has some pretty significant brain damage.
01:28:17.000 One of the other ones that is like, you can't remember anything, he's all fucked up.
01:28:21.000 And then Cat Tracy got a broken leg and some serious other injuries.
01:28:27.000 He got really jacked, like real bad.
01:28:29.000 I think he's still walking with a cane.
01:28:31.000 Yeah, got a huge settlement.
01:28:33.000 He has a funny commercial for Beats.
01:28:35.000 It can't be enough.
01:28:36.000 He's like, I was in a coma for a year, and I come out and they got these headphones.
01:28:39.000 It's funny.
01:28:40.000 Oh, that's hilarious.
01:28:41.000 That's funny.
01:28:42.000 Oh, man.
01:28:42.000 He's fucking funny.
01:28:44.000 Yeah.
01:28:45.000 This is the best time, man.
01:28:46.000 Best time for stand-up.
01:28:48.000 Best time.
01:28:49.000 So many guys right now.
01:28:51.000 It's also best time for women stand-ups, too.
01:28:54.000 Best female comics are right now.
01:28:55.000 Amy Schumer's as big as it gets right now.
01:28:57.000 She's definitely as big popularity-wise.
01:28:59.000 You know who is probably one of the funniest fucking people alive right now?
01:29:02.000 Whitney Cummings.
01:29:03.000 She's hilarious.
01:29:05.000 She's hilarious.
01:29:05.000 She has an HBO special too.
01:29:06.000 Yes, that's right.
01:29:07.000 I think it just came out, right?
01:29:08.000 Whitney Cummings?
01:29:09.000 Came out last week.
01:29:09.000 Whitney Cummings, a beast.
01:29:10.000 She's hilarious.
01:29:11.000 She's fucking smart as shit.
01:29:13.000 Is she black?
01:29:13.000 No, she's white.
01:29:14.000 She was on the podcast like two weeks ago.
01:29:17.000 She's smart as shit.
01:29:18.000 She's brilliant.
01:29:18.000 She's very cool too.
01:29:20.000 She's at the Comedy Store all the time.
01:29:21.000 I was going to say Sarah Silverman.
01:29:23.000 God damn, she's funny right now.
01:29:25.000 I mean, she's always been funny, but I saw her recent set.
01:29:28.000 She did a set at the Comedy Store like maybe a month and a half, two months ago.
01:29:32.000 Sarah Silverman?
01:29:35.000 Murdered.
01:29:36.000 Murdered.
01:29:36.000 She's super talented.
01:29:38.000 And she's on right now.
01:29:40.000 You know, comics go through like stages sometimes where they're inspired or maybe they're doing too much other shit.
01:29:45.000 Like maybe doing some acting.
01:29:46.000 She broke into the big time a little bit for a while there.
01:29:49.000 She's doing acting.
01:29:50.000 She probably still does.
01:29:52.000 Jimmy Kimmel, remember that?
01:29:53.000 Yeah.
01:29:54.000 She probably still does.
01:29:56.000 But her stand-up right now is on fire.
01:29:58.000 Eliza Schlesinger's a beast, too.
01:30:00.000 I haven't seen Eliza do a set in a long time.
01:30:02.000 I've run into her, but I haven't seen her do a set in a long time.
01:30:05.000 She won last comic standing.
01:30:06.000 Yeah, she has some show now.
01:30:08.000 I forget what it's on.
01:30:09.000 She has a podcast, too.
01:30:11.000 Truth and Eliza.
01:30:12.000 For me, Whitney's the funniest.
01:30:15.000 She's hilarious right now.
01:30:16.000 And she works hard, dude.
01:30:18.000 That girl grinds.
01:30:19.000 I always see her at the store going over her notes.
01:30:21.000 She's always improving bits.
01:30:23.000 She doesn't settle for the way a bit is.
01:30:25.000 She makes them better.
01:30:26.000 She twists them around.
01:30:27.000 She adds things.
01:30:28.000 Her work ethic is cray-cray.
01:30:29.000 What we talked about is she comes from the world of athletics.
01:30:32.000 She's used to working hard.
01:30:34.000 She's used to working hard for things.
01:30:36.000 So she treats it almost like a competitive thing.
01:30:39.000 Most people don't know.
01:30:39.000 I mean, she's a writer for Two Broke Girls.
01:30:41.000 She developed Two Broke Girls.
01:30:42.000 She's an executive producer.
01:30:43.000 It's her show.
01:30:45.000 She's a gangster, dude.
01:30:47.000 She does documentaries on the side.
01:30:49.000 She contacts me about a documentary on violence.
01:30:52.000 I'm like, what?
01:30:53.000 They're just doing a documentary on the side?
01:30:55.000 Crazy, man.
01:30:56.000 Like, who fucking directs documentaries on the side?
01:30:58.000 But she's really open about how nuts she is.
01:31:01.000 She needs to constantly fill her time with productive activities because productive things make her feel good about herself.
01:31:07.000 So she's addicted to progress.
01:31:10.000 Yeah, preach.
01:31:11.000 But she's really good.
01:31:12.000 She's smart as shit, dude.
01:31:13.000 I had to look up a couple of words she said.
01:31:14.000 Yeah, she'll drop some words on you like, ah.
01:31:15.000 But she's not fucking with you.
01:31:17.000 No, that's her.
01:31:18.000 Yeah.
01:31:18.000 She's not doing it just to make you, like, when people drop a word on me and I know what they're doing, I go, ew, I know what you're doing.
01:31:25.000 But she was, you know, that's a weird thing to say, too.
01:31:28.000 But you kind of know when someone's doing it and when they're not.
01:31:30.000 You know 100%.
01:31:31.000 YouTube, her commencement speech for college, it's brilliant.
01:31:34.000 It's crazy.
01:31:35.000 It's inspiring.
01:31:35.000 It's not funny, though?
01:31:37.000 Is it funny?
01:31:38.000 Yes and no, yeah.
01:31:39.000 Oh, okay.
01:31:39.000 I was about to say, I wouldn't be mad at y'alls if you wanted to put up a two-minute clip of this Whitney Cummings.
01:31:45.000 No, no, no, never.
01:31:46.000 You can't do that.
01:31:47.000 You can't?
01:31:47.000 Oh, you kill their jokes.
01:31:48.000 No, yeah, it's their shit.
01:31:50.000 And I don't know what they want out or don't want out.
01:31:53.000 What if it's on YouTube?
01:31:54.000 No, but there's a lot of people that have shit on YouTube they don't want on YouTube.
01:31:56.000 She's probably just happy we talked about an HBO special that's coming out.
01:31:59.000 Yeah, I think it's out.
01:32:00.000 I think it's out right now.
01:32:01.000 I think it's called I'm Your Girlfriend.
01:32:02.000 I think it came out December 18th.
01:32:03.000 I want to say it was the 18th.
01:32:05.000 That might be Bill Burr's F is for Family.
01:32:09.000 Bill Burr's thing, F for Family, is on Netflix.
01:32:12.000 It's on now, on Netflix, and you can binge watch it.
01:32:15.000 Man, Netflix is just turning into a legit force.
01:32:18.000 January 23rd.
01:32:20.000 Okay, now we know.
01:32:21.000 All right.
01:32:21.000 Boom.
01:32:22.000 She's awesome, though.
01:32:23.000 She's very, very cool.
01:32:24.000 Plus, she's like a cool chick to hang with.
01:32:26.000 Like, you could talk to her.
01:32:28.000 Like, on the podcast, it was just laughing and fun.
01:32:31.000 One of the best people I've ever met.
01:32:33.000 Is she pretty, or is that just photo?
01:32:34.000 She's very pretty.
01:32:35.000 She's very pretty.
01:32:36.000 Yeah, she's an anomaly.
01:32:37.000 She's a fucking unicorn.
01:32:39.000 She's not supposed to exist.
01:32:41.000 Damn!
01:32:42.000 So there's her, Jen Kirkman's really funny, Chelsea...
01:32:46.000 Handler?
01:32:48.000 No, what's the other one?
01:32:50.000 Chelsea Peretti.
01:32:51.000 Chelsea Peretti's really funny.
01:32:52.000 There's a lot of really funny.
01:32:54.000 You know who's fucking hilarious?
01:32:56.000 Tom Segura's wife, Christina Pazitsky.
01:32:58.000 Dude, she had me crying one night in the OR. Crying.
01:33:03.000 She's a comedian.
01:33:04.000 Slaying.
01:33:05.000 Dude, she's funny.
01:33:07.000 She's funny.
01:33:08.000 Like, really good.
01:33:10.000 They just had a baby.
01:33:11.000 I know.
01:33:12.000 Interesting.
01:33:12.000 Little Tommy.
01:33:13.000 Tom cracks me up, man.
01:33:15.000 Tom's hilarious.
01:33:16.000 He's fucking killing it right now.
01:33:17.000 He's great.
01:33:18.000 He just did his second Netflix special.
01:33:19.000 He did one Netflix special, and it changed his whole comedy, like, his whole career.
01:33:25.000 One special, he went from doing really well in clubs.
01:33:28.000 He was doing really well because of his podcast and because of word of mouth.
01:33:31.000 People had heard.
01:33:33.000 You build a market.
01:33:34.000 You go to Dallas.
01:33:36.000 You kill.
01:33:37.000 Then people, you come back.
01:33:37.000 You do the radio.
01:33:38.000 I remember that guy.
01:33:39.000 He was really funny.
01:33:40.000 If you do that over the course of a few years, you can build a market.
01:33:42.000 There was a couple of places that I did that, like Houston, before I ever had anything really going on.
01:33:47.000 But Tom was doing that and doing really well.
01:33:50.000 And then all of a sudden, he does his Netflix special.
01:33:52.000 Boom!
01:33:52.000 Now he's selling out theaters.
01:33:54.000 That was the tilt.
01:33:54.000 Boom!
01:33:55.000 Yeah, well, he had the product, he had the funny comedy.
01:34:00.000 And Ari just sold out 1,200 seats in Toronto.
01:34:04.000 Holy shit!
01:34:05.000 1,200 seats for Ari Shafir.
01:34:08.000 That's incredible.
01:34:09.000 I know.
01:34:09.000 And I was like, dude, what was that like?
01:34:12.000 And we were talking about it.
01:34:12.000 He's like, it's amazing.
01:34:14.000 Ari was ready to throw in the towel just a few years ago with life.
01:34:18.000 With life?
01:34:19.000 He was suicidal.
01:34:20.000 Yeah.
01:34:20.000 He was unhappy.
01:34:21.000 You know, and one of the things that, I don't know if, I'm pretty sure he's talked about this on the podcast, but he was taking Propecia.
01:34:27.000 And Propecia, one of the side effects for some people is depression.
01:34:30.000 I fucking told Callan it's bad.
01:34:32.000 It's depressing.
01:34:34.000 Is Callan taking that shit?
01:34:35.000 Yes.
01:34:35.000 And that's when he's been kind of fucking weird lately.
01:34:36.000 Have you seen his hair lately?
01:34:38.000 Yeah, shave his head.
01:34:39.000 Yeah, I agree.
01:34:39.000 Let it go, bitch.
01:34:40.000 He shaved it short.
01:34:42.000 He doesn't want to.
01:34:42.000 He wants to act.
01:34:44.000 He wants the stage.
01:34:46.000 He wants to be on the stage.
01:34:47.000 He wants the stage.
01:34:48.000 He loves acting.
01:34:49.000 He doesn't want to admit it, but he loves it.
01:34:50.000 I agree.
01:34:50.000 He's like, I don't need to do it.
01:34:52.000 He loves it.
01:34:52.000 He's good at it.
01:34:53.000 I know.
01:34:53.000 Keep doing it, man.
01:34:54.000 Like on sitcoms and in television shows and in movies, like those parts he does.
01:34:59.000 He's great.
01:35:00.000 The Bachelor, or not The Bachelor, The Hangover.
01:35:02.000 Hangover.
01:35:02.000 He's fucking funny.
01:35:03.000 He's really good at it.
01:35:04.000 In Chicago, he fucking ripped my soul apart, man.
01:35:07.000 His fucking...
01:35:08.000 He was on fire.
01:35:09.000 That's my point.
01:35:10.000 His stand-up is really what he's best at.
01:35:12.000 Yeah.
01:35:12.000 That's his gift.
01:35:13.000 Yeah.
01:35:14.000 And the more...
01:35:15.000 It's like one of those things.
01:35:16.000 It's like, he likes doing it, but it...
01:35:18.000 It's tricky.
01:35:19.000 The more time you spend doing other things, like acting, especially 16 hour days on set, especially if you get a sitcom or something like that, there's a lot of time where you don't get to do stand-up.
01:35:31.000 He's doing that, our podcast as a motherfucker now, with everything we've got going on.
01:35:35.000 How often do you guys go a week?
01:35:37.000 Two or three times a week.
01:35:38.000 And then we have the digital series, which, you know, that takes...
01:35:41.000 Damn, you're doing two or three times a week.
01:35:43.000 Yeah.
01:35:44.000 Wow.
01:35:44.000 It's crazy, isn't it?
01:35:45.000 Isn't it crazy that podcasting was just like a goof?
01:35:48.000 Just a little while ago, just a few years ago.
01:35:50.000 We started in wife beaters in Brian's garage, just like fucking around.
01:35:53.000 Like, this is a terrible idea.
01:35:55.000 I don't want to do this.
01:35:56.000 But isn't it always how these things work?
01:35:58.000 Two wife beaters.
01:35:58.000 These things work because you're fucking around.
01:36:00.000 Like, a show, if this was produced on television, right?
01:36:04.000 And your show was, uh, someone came up to you and they said, this is our idea, we're gonna dress you up in the finest fashions, and we're gonna light you, we're gonna put your makeup on, and then we're gonna, you know, tell you what to talk about.
01:36:14.000 Ready, go.
01:36:14.000 You'd never be able to call yourself Big Dick Bandits and start singing stories.
01:36:17.000 Stupid songs.
01:36:19.000 Callan would start singing a song about something and they would cut you off.
01:36:22.000 You can't sing a song about the muscles in your back.
01:36:26.000 But since it's just you guys and you're just fucking around, then it becomes what it is.
01:36:32.000 And then after it becomes what it is, it gets bigger and bigger until someone comes along and says, hey, why don't you guys do that for us?
01:36:38.000 It's crazy.
01:36:40.000 It's insane.
01:36:40.000 It is insane.
01:36:42.000 Do you guys ever get in trouble for anything you say?
01:36:45.000 Fox, because our numbers have been so good, they're kind of just like, let them do their thing.
01:36:50.000 I don't know if they like us.
01:36:51.000 They tried to get you guys to stop swearing.
01:36:53.000 Oh yeah.
01:36:54.000 Which is hilarious.
01:36:56.000 Yes.
01:36:56.000 We had a meeting.
01:36:57.000 They're like, is there any way you can say dick less and stop swearing?
01:37:02.000 Is that at all possible?
01:37:05.000 Me and Kyle are like, no, if you censor us, we gotta go somewhere else.
01:37:08.000 They can't.
01:37:08.000 They're like, do your thing.
01:37:09.000 They can't stop it.
01:37:11.000 Once things get big, they can't stop it.
01:37:13.000 It starts rolling.
01:37:14.000 They can't stop it.
01:37:16.000 And then once you stop fighting for the UFC... Nobody can tell you what to do.
01:37:22.000 It's weird.
01:37:23.000 I think I can say whatever I want.
01:37:24.000 There's no strings.
01:37:25.000 You're like fucking Pinocchio.
01:37:27.000 I have no strings to hold me down, to make me sad or make me frown.
01:37:32.000 I had strings, but now I'm free.
01:37:35.000 There are no strings on me.
01:37:38.000 Hi-ho the merry-o, nothing ever bothers me.
01:37:42.000 I love this!
01:37:44.000 I want the world to know.
01:37:46.000 What the fuck?
01:37:47.000 It's weird, man.
01:37:49.000 Think about it.
01:37:50.000 This time last year, I was trying to decide what the fuck I'm going to do.
01:37:55.000 Yeah.
01:37:56.000 It gets tricky, man.
01:37:59.000 Trying to plot your life out, it's like when things start getting going, then it's like once you find something that starts getting going, then it's just follow through with it and stay on it and stay focused.
01:38:08.000 Stay the course.
01:38:09.000 But for a lot of people, like young guys, like I got a nephew.
01:38:12.000 I'm talking to my nephew about what he wants to do.
01:38:15.000 I'm like, you got to find what you want.
01:38:16.000 Like, what is it you want?
01:38:17.000 Yes.
01:38:18.000 But for a lot of people, it's hard to find a thing.
01:38:20.000 Once you find a thing, then you're like, fuck, I'm going for it.
01:38:24.000 That's the issue.
01:38:24.000 Once you find a thing, then you go for it.
01:38:27.000 But it's hard to find a thing for a lot of people.
01:38:29.000 And then there's a lot of people that have a gig.
01:38:31.000 So they have a thing that they love.
01:38:33.000 Maybe they like tattooing or something like that.
01:38:35.000 But they got this job.
01:38:36.000 So they can only tattoo on Saturday mornings.
01:38:38.000 And their wife gives them a hard time.
01:38:40.000 And they're like, I'm thinking about becoming a tattooist.
01:38:43.000 Oh my god, you're not going to make any money.
01:38:46.000 You know, and they have a hard time ever finding their thing and making it a gig.
01:38:51.000 So when you get something like what you guys have, you found a thing and it's taken off and now you're selling out all these shows.
01:38:58.000 Like you guys are killing it everywhere.
01:38:59.000 Yeah.
01:39:00.000 They're selling out everywhere.
01:39:01.000 They're selling out all over the country.
01:39:02.000 They do these live fighter in the kids shows.
01:39:04.000 I know.
01:39:04.000 I follow them on Instagram.
01:39:05.000 You know what I like?
01:39:07.000 Your flyer that was my favorite so far is your face on Callan's head and his face on your head.
01:39:15.000 Hideous.
01:39:16.000 That looks fucking freaky.
01:39:18.000 Someone photoshopped a fan.
01:39:20.000 Is it photoshopped Steve?
01:39:21.000 I don't know who it was.
01:39:23.000 It might be.
01:39:23.000 I don't know.
01:39:24.000 Yeah, because it's really good.
01:39:25.000 It's odd.
01:39:26.000 It was weird.
01:39:27.000 I was like, oh my god.
01:39:28.000 Did it bother you?
01:39:29.000 I look like a pedophile.
01:39:31.000 I look like I sell Subway sandwiches.
01:39:33.000 I look terrible.
01:39:34.000 I look terrible.
01:39:36.000 Things are good, man.
01:39:37.000 We barely talked about fighting.
01:39:39.000 You know what's interesting?
01:39:39.000 We haven't at all.
01:39:40.000 Great whites.
01:39:40.000 You know what's interesting, man, is how the UFC hasn't done their own podcast yet.
01:39:44.000 I talked to them about doing it a while back.
01:39:46.000 I think there was some mention about it.
01:39:48.000 But I think the swearing thing was also an issue with them.
01:39:51.000 There was some concern.
01:39:53.000 Meanwhile, Dana swears more than you.
01:39:55.000 He doesn't anymore.
01:39:59.000 Fuck said bitch, please.
01:40:01.000 He very rarely swears like he used to.
01:40:03.000 Like, you know, he used to have those press conferences and he would swear.
01:40:06.000 I think he probably still does a little every now and then?
01:40:10.000 Maybe?
01:40:10.000 Barely.
01:40:11.000 I think he also realizes it just causes more problems than it is.
01:40:15.000 It's like the freedom that you get from speaking your mind saying whatever you want.
01:40:20.000 It's almost like it's not worth it because it causes so many hassles and so many fires that you have to put out.
01:40:25.000 We want to be taken serious.
01:40:26.000 You don't see like, you know, Roger Goodell cussing about Tom Brady.
01:40:30.000 I don't think people would look at the sport serious if he kept doing that.
01:40:34.000 That's true.
01:40:35.000 Well, you know what, man?
01:40:36.000 I don't want his job.
01:40:37.000 Dana White's job is fucking brutal.
01:40:39.000 That guy works so hard, and he's constantly working, and shit is constantly falling apart.
01:40:43.000 There's always constantly, like, a new blowout, a new this, a new that, a new fucking fire he has to put out.
01:40:49.000 It never stops.
01:40:50.000 It never ends.
01:40:52.000 It pays well.
01:40:54.000 What, like 40 million a year?
01:40:56.000 Pays pretty good.
01:40:56.000 I don't know what it pays.
01:40:57.000 I'll figure it out.
01:40:58.000 I've never asked.
01:40:58.000 I'd figure things out.
01:40:59.000 Would you?
01:40:59.000 Would you take that gig?
01:41:02.000 No, you wouldn't.
01:41:03.000 You'd go right back to podcasting.
01:41:05.000 I podcast everywhere.
01:41:09.000 That's a billion dollars though right there.
01:41:11.000 Well, I think, you know...
01:41:12.000 I like the freedom to do what the fuck I want to do.
01:41:14.000 See, the thing is, you wouldn't get that kind of money unless you did what he did, which was like, build it from the beginning.
01:41:21.000 Like, you don't get that money if you come in as a fucking executive now.
01:41:24.000 Like, if they had to hire some new guy...
01:41:25.000 No, he's not getting a share.
01:41:27.000 No, that guy's getting a good salary.
01:41:29.000 He'll make some good money.
01:41:30.000 But the Dana White effect is when the sport is non-existent.
01:41:34.000 Yeah, and you've got two rich friends.
01:41:35.000 You've got two rich friends.
01:41:36.000 They put up mad cash.
01:41:37.000 They lose a fuckload.
01:41:39.000 They were $44 million in the hole before it turns around with the Ultimate Fighter.
01:41:43.000 And then it takes off and becomes this giant sport.
01:41:45.000 The rich friends were key, though.
01:41:47.000 Gigantic.
01:41:48.000 Not just rich friends.
01:41:49.000 But Eddie and I talked about this.
01:41:51.000 It's almost like...
01:41:54.000 It's almost like we're in a movie because we would always say the same thing.
01:41:58.000 We would always say the same thing.
01:41:59.000 What we used to say.
01:42:00.000 There's no way the sport isn't gonna take over.
01:42:03.000 It's impossible.
01:42:04.000 Yeah, but what did we say?
01:42:05.000 We said this is what the sport needs.
01:42:07.000 Two super rich dudes that are worth billions of dollars that don't give a fuck.
01:42:11.000 Just do it.
01:42:12.000 Just throw all this money at the sport and make it big.
01:42:15.000 Yep.
01:42:16.000 And that's exactly what happened.
01:42:17.000 You found him.
01:42:17.000 That's exactly what happened.
01:42:18.000 And they fucked up along the way.
01:42:20.000 They hired Carmen Electra to be their spokesperson at one point in time.
01:42:23.000 See, I dug that.
01:42:24.000 Remember that?
01:42:24.000 Oh, yeah.
01:42:25.000 I dug that.
01:42:26.000 Was Paris Hilton involved as well?
01:42:27.000 No.
01:42:28.000 With what?
01:42:28.000 No?
01:42:29.000 He's Carmen Electra.
01:42:30.000 Yeah, no.
01:42:32.000 They had to draw the line somewhere.
01:42:33.000 I don't even think Chuck was the king back then.
01:42:37.000 I think Chuck wasn't the champion.
01:42:38.000 I think Tito was.
01:42:40.000 I mean, you gotta mix things up.
01:42:41.000 Remember when they had girls doing post-fight interviews for a while?
01:42:44.000 Oh, they did, yeah.
01:42:46.000 They had a few.
01:42:46.000 That was funny.
01:42:47.000 I forget who they were.
01:42:49.000 Very nice girls.
01:42:50.000 Super nice girls.
01:42:51.000 There's Carmen Electra with Tito and Vitor.
01:42:54.000 Dude, she was a dime piece back then.
01:42:57.000 That was light heavyweight Vitor.
01:42:58.000 Fuck yes.
01:43:00.000 Yeah, wow.
01:43:01.000 Crazy.
01:43:02.000 I am not mad at that.
01:43:05.000 Yeah, interesting.
01:43:07.000 They tried a bunch of different things.
01:43:09.000 They just tried to get people to pay attention to it.
01:43:11.000 And it wasn't until The Ultimate Fighter.
01:43:13.000 What's crazy is The Ultimate Fighter almost didn't get made.
01:43:16.000 Almost didn't get made.
01:43:17.000 They had to pay for the whole thing.
01:43:18.000 It was basically a giant infomercial.
01:43:20.000 They had to essentially pay.
01:43:21.000 It was Spike TV. Nobody gave a fuck about Spike TV back then.
01:43:23.000 Not at the time, yeah.
01:43:24.000 And then they put together this show, and they're losing so much fucking money.
01:43:28.000 You gotta take risks, though.
01:43:29.000 And then they get to the finals, and Forrest Griffin is fighting Stephen Bonner, and the whole fucking world tunes in.
01:43:35.000 Calling each other.
01:43:36.000 Then it takes off.
01:43:39.000 It just grows.
01:43:40.000 It was like the seed that got planted.
01:43:41.000 Look at that Carlos Newton.
01:43:43.000 Who remembers him?
01:43:43.000 Dude, look at Jen's pulver.
01:43:44.000 Look at Randy.
01:43:45.000 Look at Izzo.
01:43:47.000 Oh my goodness, Pedro Izzo.
01:43:49.000 Wow.
01:43:49.000 Prosive.
01:43:50.000 Pedro just fought his last fight.
01:43:52.000 Just retired a couple months ago.
01:43:54.000 Get ready for a lesson in submission.
01:43:56.000 That's not a moose knuckle, is it?
01:43:58.000 That's a fucking...
01:43:59.000 That's the whole leg.
01:44:01.000 Dude, that's the biggest moose knuckle ever.
01:44:03.000 That's not a knuckle.
01:44:04.000 That's the whole thigh.
01:44:06.000 That's a moose ham.
01:44:07.000 Dude, she is a...
01:44:09.000 Design.
01:44:09.000 She was very hot.
01:44:10.000 She's very nice, too.
01:44:12.000 I did a Spike TV thing with her.
01:44:13.000 We hosted this car show together.
01:44:15.000 She's super, like, down to earth.
01:44:17.000 Really nice person.
01:44:18.000 Is she married now?
01:44:19.000 I don't know.
01:44:20.000 I'm not a gossip hound.
01:44:22.000 Jamie is, though.
01:44:23.000 Ask him.
01:44:23.000 He probably knows.
01:44:24.000 Is she taking to him?
01:44:25.000 She's older.
01:44:28.000 She's probably still hot as fuck.
01:44:29.000 Oh, I agree.
01:44:30.000 She did post-fight interviews, right?
01:44:32.000 And didn't, like, there was a Playboy Playmate?
01:44:34.000 Remember, there was that blonde one?
01:44:35.000 Yeah, there was another one.
01:44:36.000 I forget who it was.
01:44:37.000 And then Casey Kasem's daughter did it.
01:44:39.000 Carrie Kasem.
01:44:39.000 Yeah.
01:44:40.000 You know, you gotta swing.
01:44:42.000 Well, you know what they were doing?
01:44:43.000 They were doing a bunch of different things.
01:44:45.000 They got on Best Damn Sports Show, remember that?
01:44:48.000 Yes.
01:44:48.000 And Leanne Tweeden did part of that as well.
01:44:53.000 Leanne Tweeden!
01:44:55.000 Super nice, too.
01:44:56.000 She's super cool.
01:44:57.000 Very smart, too.
01:44:58.000 Smart.
01:44:59.000 She's fucking sharp.
01:45:01.000 She's easy on the ice.
01:45:02.000 But she was only involved in one because it was with Best Damn Sports Show.
01:45:06.000 Well, what's up with, I don't know if you can talk about it, because Dominic, they're trying now, where this is the first time ever in a main event, they had Dominic Cruz in there with the three.
01:45:14.000 It was awesome.
01:45:15.000 I would like to do it with him all the time.
01:45:16.000 He's fucking great.
01:45:18.000 He's great, and he got me fired up.
01:45:19.000 He's a smart dude.
01:45:20.000 He's great.
01:45:21.000 He's a smart dude, and his knowledge of MMA is just fucking outstanding, especially footwork and positioning and striking.
01:45:28.000 He's a technician.
01:45:30.000 Super technical.
01:45:31.000 And we did the Fox Sports prelims together, or the, excuse me, the Fight Pass prelims together.
01:45:36.000 And you looking for the joint?
01:45:37.000 There's a lighter.
01:45:40.000 Where's the lighter?
01:45:43.000 There's one in here.
01:45:45.000 Oh, there's one right in front of you, dude.
01:45:47.000 Oh, shit.
01:45:48.000 We did the FS1, no, Fight Pass.
01:45:52.000 Fight Pass prelims together.
01:45:54.000 The three prelims.
01:45:54.000 And he was outstanding, man.
01:45:56.000 And we also did a lot of talking backstage.
01:45:58.000 He and I talked.
01:46:00.000 We shared philosophies.
01:46:02.000 No, I'm good, dude.
01:46:03.000 We were talking about upcoming matchups, like how we thought about this fight or that fight.
01:46:08.000 He really favored Cowboy over Dos Anjos, which I thought was interesting.
01:46:13.000 Yeah, I think a lot of people did.
01:46:15.000 Yeah.
01:46:15.000 I thought it was a who-the-fuck-knows fight.
01:46:18.000 Me too.
01:46:18.000 I felt like the pressure that Dos Anjos put on Pettis, I felt like that's going to fuck with anybody, man.
01:46:23.000 I agree.
01:46:24.000 It's going to be tough to beat that guy.
01:46:25.000 Yeah.
01:46:25.000 Very tough.
01:46:26.000 With all that jiu-jitsu, too.
01:46:28.000 Yeah.
01:46:28.000 He's phenomenal.
01:46:29.000 Someone's going to have to catch him when he's making that mad charge.
01:46:33.000 And I think someone with the kind of footwork that Conor has might have the best chance.
01:46:38.000 But if those two do match up, you're going to see pressure that Conor's never experienced before.
01:46:43.000 And he's also got Rafael Cordero, who's a phenomenal striking coach.
01:46:48.000 One of the best in the world.
01:46:48.000 He's going to break down what Conor's doing and Conor's movement.
01:46:52.000 Good luck breaking that down.
01:46:53.000 You're right.
01:46:53.000 Because we haven't seen enough footage to really break that down, and we haven't seen Conor with that pressure.
01:46:58.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:46:59.000 The other thing is, when Conor hits people with that left hand, it's game over.
01:47:03.000 I don't think it's game over for Dos Anjos.
01:47:05.000 He's too big.
01:47:06.000 He's a bigger guy.
01:47:07.000 It might be, but you're talking about a different weight class now.
01:47:10.000 Where does he lose the power?
01:47:12.000 Does he take the power totally into the lightweights and then he loses it at welterweight?
01:47:16.000 Could he still knock out welterweights?
01:47:18.000 He knocked out Benson, and Benson's fighting welterweight, and he fought Brandon Thatch.
01:47:22.000 And Thatch is a big fucker.
01:47:24.000 He's big and he hits hard as a welterweight.
01:47:26.000 And Thatch didn't put away Benson, but Dos Anjos did.
01:47:29.000 Dos Anjos fucked him up.
01:47:31.000 He was the first guy to stop Benson.
01:47:32.000 I think Dos Anjos has the kind of power that he takes wherever...
01:47:37.000 He probably...
01:47:38.000 155 is probably optimum.
01:47:40.000 He does look very thin, though, on the weigh-ins.
01:47:42.000 He's definitely sucking some weight.
01:47:44.000 There's no IVs either now.
01:47:46.000 That's another X factor.
01:47:47.000 No IVs now, but he looked amazing.
01:47:48.000 Amazing.
01:47:48.000 You know, and the other thing is, like, people are talking about people looking different before the PED scare or before the testing.
01:47:56.000 You can't say that about him.
01:47:57.000 He looks exactly the same.
01:47:58.000 He looks better than ever.
01:47:59.000 I agree.
01:48:00.000 And you also, there's no radical change from the first time he was in the UFC. What you see with Dos Anjos is a slow, steady progression.
01:48:07.000 Until like the Nick Curzon days, then you see like a little a little stronger a little faster like and then you see the the Pettis fight just phenomenal cardio That's the thing that blew me away the most about that fight the amount of cardio that he had to have to put that pace on Pettis for five rounds I mean,
01:48:26.000 that's just you got to be in insane condition.
01:48:29.000 It's gonna be tough to beat that guy Then you find out that in that fight for the two weeks before the fight he fucked his knee up.
01:48:34.000 Yeah So he had to do airdyne sprints.
01:48:37.000 That's all he did for the two weeks before the fight.
01:48:39.000 He couldn't do any sparring.
01:48:40.000 Non-stop.
01:48:41.000 Still put it to him.
01:48:43.000 Like, there was nothing wrong.
01:48:44.000 And then you saw him in this fight, 100% healthy.
01:48:46.000 He's a fucking monster.
01:48:48.000 I talked to Ryan Parsons about him, and Ryan Parsons said, he was telling him two years ago, he's like, if you keep going, you are the champion of the world.
01:48:55.000 Like, it's just a matter of time.
01:48:56.000 Ryan knows his shit.
01:48:57.000 Ryan knows his shit, and Ryan was telling me he was watching him, no names, but just fuck dudes up.
01:49:02.000 Dudes that are, like, really high-level UFC caliber fighters, and Dos Anjos just fucking them up in the gym.
01:49:09.000 Dude, he's a horrible matchup for anyone, including Conor.
01:49:12.000 It's a tough matchup, man.
01:49:13.000 A bigger guy with that pressure and can grapple.
01:49:16.000 And nasty power, man.
01:49:17.000 His power is nasty.
01:49:18.000 The question is, would he be able to have that same kind of approach on Conor, who is very elusive, very light on his feet?
01:49:25.000 Like, you saw with the Aldo fight, how he's moving, he's moving back, he's throwing sidekicks to the legs, he's moving back.
01:49:32.000 Like, would he be able to just do what he did with Cowboy to...
01:49:38.000 To Connor.
01:49:39.000 Will you be able to do that same approach?
01:49:40.000 Like, look for that straight shot.
01:49:42.000 He throws that straight left hand a lot.
01:49:43.000 The other thing to take into consideration, this is a big thing, is that this would be Connor fighting a Southpaw.
01:49:49.000 A super dangerous Southpaw.
01:49:51.000 And one of the things about Southpaw is fuck you up, man.
01:49:54.000 They confuse the shit out of you.
01:49:55.000 Everything's coming from the wrong side.
01:49:57.000 Everything's weird.
01:49:58.000 The right hand is now the jab.
01:50:01.000 The jab is the right hand.
01:50:02.000 Like, what?
01:50:03.000 There's a lot of huge factors.
01:50:04.000 Yeah.
01:50:05.000 Can Dos Anjos deal with Conor's speed?
01:50:07.000 Does Conor have the knockout power at 55 against a bigger guy?
01:50:11.000 I think he does.
01:50:12.000 I really do.
01:50:13.000 I agree.
01:50:13.000 I think he does.
01:50:14.000 He's not got as much weight.
01:50:16.000 And his power is so substantial.
01:50:17.000 And angles.
01:50:18.000 He's surprising guys with his angles.
01:50:21.000 There's a lot that goes into that fight, man.
01:50:24.000 Again, I'm not taking anything from Dos Anjos.
01:50:26.000 He's an amazing champion.
01:50:27.000 I don't know if that's the marquee fight, though.
01:50:29.000 As crazy as that sounds, the world's a weird place.
01:50:32.000 But here's what the thing.
01:50:33.000 It might be after Fox, because you've got to think that UFC on Fox has got millions of people to watch, and we saw a destroyer in Dos Anjos.
01:50:41.000 But what are we talking about?
01:50:42.000 What's everyone talking about?
01:50:43.000 Diaz.
01:50:44.000 You are talking about Diaz.
01:50:45.000 That is true.
01:50:45.000 That is true.
01:50:46.000 Because of that post-fight interview.
01:50:48.000 Yes.
01:50:48.000 But I still think people are talking about Dos Anjos, too.
01:50:51.000 A little bit, because he just kind of murked Cowboy in 66 seconds.
01:50:54.000 They both work, but Nate Diaz...
01:50:57.000 Just, you know, Dos Anjos has the belt.
01:51:00.000 You got that, you know, but it makes sense that you go with Nate Diaz because of all the shit talking and all that.
01:51:06.000 Maybe.
01:51:07.000 That makes sense.
01:51:08.000 And also, you know, maybe, you know, some people say you can't go up and wait and contend for the belt right away.
01:51:15.000 It's a good...
01:51:18.000 The thing is, it puts 145 in limbo.
01:51:22.000 Yeah, one of the things about UFC, though, is they don't give a fuck.
01:51:26.000 They don't have to follow the rules.
01:51:27.000 One of the good things about not being constrained by a WBC or an IBF, like boxing is...
01:51:33.000 Good and bad.
01:51:34.000 Yeah, we were talking about the Vladimir Klitschko fight that they stripped Vladimir, not Vladimir, Tyson Fury, who beat Vladimir Klitschko.
01:51:41.000 They stripped him of one of his titles like immediately because he didn't want to fight the mandatory number one contender.
01:51:46.000 So they immediately stripped him, like within two weeks, right?
01:51:49.000 Yeah.
01:51:49.000 It's like really quick.
01:51:50.000 And that wouldn't happen in the UFC. Just not going to happen.
01:51:53.000 And in the UFC, the mandatory contender is whoever the fuck they say.
01:51:57.000 Yeah, whoever they can sell.
01:51:59.000 Yeah.
01:52:00.000 If they say, look, this is all about making money, and Nate Diaz is going to make you some fucking money.
01:52:04.000 And I have no complaints about that.
01:52:08.000 I like that.
01:52:09.000 Yeah, but if you were a fighter, that would drive you crazy.
01:52:11.000 It'd drive you fucking nuts.
01:52:12.000 But if you were the number one contender like Frankie Edgar, and you've been beating dudes' asses, and you've been fucking up everybody, and you just knocked out Chad Mendes in spectacular fashion, and before that, you beat Uriah Faber, clearly, and then beat the brakes off Cub Swanson and submitted him in the fifth round.
01:52:28.000 And you're a former...
01:52:29.000 And before that, you beat the fuck out of BJ Penn.
01:52:33.000 But it's not going to happen right now, and it should happen right now.
01:52:36.000 If you're Frankie Edgar and you've been a respectful guy who's just been going out there and fighting his ass off and beating guys' asses, you're like, that fucking guy deserves his shot at the title.
01:52:45.000 What about Jose?
01:52:46.000 He gets fucked out of all this.
01:52:48.000 My bad, I was undefeated for 10 years, one of the best champions of all time, and I don't deserve a shot?
01:52:54.000 Nope.
01:52:54.000 You know what?
01:52:55.000 Here's the thing about that.
01:52:57.000 Here's a problem with that.
01:52:58.000 The only problem with that is in business, Conor could fight right away.
01:53:01.000 Conor knocked him out with one punch.
01:53:02.000 He's fine.
01:53:04.000 Jose, for all intents and purposes, should take a long time off.
01:53:08.000 I agree.
01:53:08.000 Like at least five or six months, right?
01:53:10.000 I agree.
01:53:10.000 He has to.
01:53:11.000 I mean, you really should.
01:53:13.000 Because if you don't, you got flatlined like that and you come back quick, we all know what happens.
01:53:18.000 You can't take a shot as well.
01:53:19.000 So when he's healthy, he should get a...
01:53:20.000 Shot right away.
01:53:21.000 But this is where contractual agreements have to fall into play when it comes to champions, right?
01:53:27.000 Because if this was any other situation, I guarantee you, if Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao...
01:53:34.000 If Floyd Mayweather got knocked out by Manny Pacquiao, there's got to be some shit in the contract that says that Floyd gets an immediate rematch and he gets it within...
01:53:43.000 I think he said he is...
01:53:43.000 I know what the contract was.
01:53:44.000 So if Manny won, there have to be two more fights.
01:53:48.000 If Manny won.
01:53:49.000 If Floyd wins, there's no more fight.
01:53:51.000 That was the contract they signed.
01:53:53.000 How crazy is that?
01:53:54.000 Well, you would think that Aldo would...
01:53:56.000 They don't have the power.
01:53:59.000 That's the thing.
01:53:59.000 Daniel goes, here's your contract.
01:54:01.000 Sign it.
01:54:01.000 There you go.
01:54:02.000 And you're going to get paid.
01:54:03.000 And I'm sure he got paid.
01:54:04.000 I'm sure he made a million bucks, at least.
01:54:06.000 Aldo?
01:54:06.000 Yeah.
01:54:06.000 How much do you think Conor made?
01:54:08.000 Oh, he probably made...
01:54:09.000 Six or seven?
01:54:10.000 We're just guessing.
01:54:11.000 I would guess that.
01:54:12.000 But that's what I've been...
01:54:14.000 I've never...
01:54:14.000 I haven't asked...
01:54:15.000 I know too much that I can't talk about, but I haven't asked his actual salary.
01:54:21.000 But he got paid a lot of money, I would guarantee you.
01:54:23.000 Millions.
01:54:23.000 But he wants even more now.
01:54:24.000 He deserves more.
01:54:25.000 Now, I mean...
01:54:26.000 He shouldn't fight for anything less than 20 million.
01:54:27.000 Dude, he shows a photo of his underwear on Instagram.
01:54:30.000 It gets 100,000 likes.
01:54:32.000 I mean, he can do whatever he wants.
01:54:33.000 He's the biggest star we've ever had.
01:54:34.000 If I'm Conor, I'm his management, and I don't give a fuck what his current contract is, I say, I'm not doing anything until I get $20 million to fight.
01:54:41.000 He was a giant star before he knocked out Aldo.
01:54:43.000 Now he's a megastar.
01:54:45.000 He's eating suns.
01:54:46.000 He's the biggest thing we've ever had.
01:54:47.000 He's swallowing up galaxies.
01:54:49.000 Three!
01:54:49.000 Three!
01:54:50.000 Badasses call them out.
01:54:52.000 What?
01:54:52.000 Three.
01:54:53.000 Three in one card.
01:54:54.000 One night.
01:54:54.000 Yeah.
01:54:55.000 Dos Anjos, Nate, and Charles Oliveira.
01:54:59.000 He's the Floyd Mayweather of the UFC right now.
01:55:02.000 Everyone wants to fight him for the payday.
01:55:05.000 But he's way different, though, because he's knocking guys dead.
01:55:07.000 Not the same fighter, I'm saying, as far as you want to fight him to make that money.
01:55:12.000 Yeah, but even that, like...
01:55:13.000 Do you ever remember a boxing match where three winners called out Mayweather?
01:55:17.000 Like, that's never happened before.
01:55:20.000 This is like, everybody sees like, ka-ching!
01:55:22.000 They're all like, your shirt, Scrooge McDuck.
01:55:24.000 Yeah, Scrooge McDuck, like, come on, son!
01:55:26.000 Ka-ching!
01:55:27.000 Yeah, it's true, man.
01:55:28.000 We've never seen anything like it.
01:55:30.000 You know, they want all the stardom, they want all the perks, they want all the cash, and they think that they could beat him.
01:55:36.000 Look at that.
01:55:37.000 This is hilarious.
01:55:38.000 Yeah, he says that people think that it was a clean knockout, but it's actually a fight against multiple attackers, how he's hipping away from Big John.
01:55:49.000 Have you seen that video where Big John knees him in the face?
01:55:52.000 No, he didn't knee him in the face.
01:55:53.000 Oh, no.
01:55:54.000 Have you seen the video?
01:55:55.000 I've seen it.
01:55:55.000 His shin brushed over the top of Aldo's face.
01:55:58.000 Looks like he hit him hard.
01:55:59.000 Big John's the best in the business.
01:56:00.000 That's crazy to look at, isn't it?
01:56:02.000 That he just knocked him dead with one shot.
01:56:05.000 Insane.
01:56:06.000 Whack!
01:56:07.000 It's interesting that there's this new emergence of this one guy who shit talks and it sort of changes everyone's approach.
01:56:17.000 Boy, did we need him though.
01:56:18.000 Oh my God.
01:56:19.000 Boy, did the UFC need him.
01:56:20.000 Everybody needed him.
01:56:21.000 I mean, I think...
01:56:23.000 Ireland needed him, too.
01:56:25.000 They needed a hero like this.
01:56:27.000 The world needed him.
01:56:29.000 Well, the UFC's a better place with Conor McGregor.
01:56:33.000 You can't say that about a lot of fighters.
01:56:34.000 But here's the thing, okay?
01:56:35.000 When we talk about Ronda, right?
01:56:38.000 Ronda did a lot of shit talking to, and Ronda was this over-the-top personality.
01:56:42.000 But when she lost, there was so much hate against her, so much backlash for her behavior.
01:56:48.000 She brought it on herself.
01:56:49.000 She did.
01:56:50.000 But my point is, Holly emerges.
01:56:53.000 As this perfect opposite of that.
01:56:55.000 Perfect opposite of that.
01:56:56.000 She's super nice.
01:56:58.000 Like, she's really friendly and respectful and it's legit.
01:57:01.000 Like, when you talk to her...
01:57:02.000 There's no fakeness.
01:57:03.000 Off camera, she's exactly the same way.
01:57:05.000 Super confident and also, like, really nervous about letting anything go to her head.
01:57:11.000 Like, she's talking about, I want to get back in the gym.
01:57:13.000 She's also paid her dues.
01:57:14.000 Yeah, she's like, I don't even want to talk about this.
01:57:15.000 I don't even like all this attention because I don't want to get carried away.
01:57:19.000 But isn't that like...
01:57:20.000 The UFC needs that, too.
01:57:22.000 Like, the UFC needs someone who comes along like Holly.
01:57:25.000 And they also need someone who comes along and shows the multifaceted approach of MMA that we all know and see every day in the men's divisions is now making its way to the women's division at a very high level.
01:57:39.000 Instead of having the one person like Hoist Gracie was in the early UFC's would dominate with jiu-jitsu, right?
01:57:44.000 Nobody knew what the fuck was going on.
01:57:45.000 He would dominate.
01:57:46.000 Nobody else could keep up with him technique-wise.
01:57:48.000 There's a very similar situation with Rhonda.
01:57:51.000 Like Rhonda's dominating all these girls with arm bars.
01:57:53.000 Everybody knows the arm bars are coming.
01:57:55.000 They can't stop it.
01:57:56.000 So she starts to evolve her game.
01:57:57.000 She starts knocking out people like Sarah McMahon, Alexis Davis, and her game starts to evolve.
01:58:02.000 And then someone comes along who has the perfect solution for that.
01:58:04.000 And that perfect solution is very similar to what we saw in the men's divisions.
01:58:08.000 When men learned how to sprawl and brawl, we saw world-class kickboxers like Maurice Smith.
01:58:13.000 When Maurice Smith entered the UFC against Mark Coleman, we went, oh, look at this.
01:58:19.000 And then we see this sort of progression, and now you're seeing it in the women's division.
01:58:22.000 In the women's division, too, it's like...
01:58:24.000 Girls wanted to fight Ronda, but it's not like the Connor effect, where if you fight Connor, you're making fucking bank.
01:58:31.000 The girls, a lot of them, they got smoked so fast, they got maybe a couple hundred grand, maybe, not even that, and just get smoked.
01:58:38.000 It was more of the Ronda show, you know what I'm saying?
01:58:40.000 It was a different animal.
01:58:41.000 Because she was that dominant.
01:58:42.000 She was that dominant.
01:58:43.000 And I don't think you can compare at all, competition-wise, what's available to a man's 145-pound champion versus a women's 135-pound champion.
01:58:53.000 Not even close.
01:58:53.000 That's why when people say Ali Frazier, no.
01:58:56.000 It's not even in the ballpark.
01:58:57.000 You just can't.
01:58:57.000 There's nowhere nothing like it.
01:58:59.000 There's some good talent in the division.
01:59:01.000 It's shaping up.
01:59:02.000 You've got that new Russian chick that just entered.
01:59:04.000 She's a 17-time world Muay Thai champion.
01:59:07.000 She beat Ioana Jacek.
01:59:10.000 17 times?
01:59:11.000 She won 17 different titles in different organizations.
01:59:15.000 Is that the chick that fought Sarah Kaufman on 8 days notice?
01:59:17.000 Or is that someone different?
01:59:18.000 Yes, yes.
01:59:19.000 She fought Sarah Kaufman on 8 days notice.
01:59:21.000 Out-grappled her.
01:59:21.000 Out-grappled her.
01:59:22.000 Yeah.
01:59:23.000 And she just stayed in the gym, luckily.
01:59:26.000 She was in pretty good shape.
01:59:26.000 But to take a fight on TV. Sarah Kaufman's a monster for the women's division.
01:59:32.000 She's really good.
01:59:32.000 And her striking is fucking super high level.
01:59:35.000 Super high level striking.
01:59:37.000 And you're going to see those, is my point.
01:59:39.000 You're going to see these Maury Smith types, but now they enter into MMA. You're going to see the Keira Gracie.
01:59:45.000 Keira Gracie doesn't want to do it.
01:59:47.000 I don't think she has a desire to do MMA. But you're going to see someone like her.
01:59:50.000 She stopped training?
01:59:51.000 I don't think she wants a fight.
01:59:52.000 I don't know if she's set a fight up.
01:59:54.000 Apparently she's been training.
01:59:55.000 She's so pretty.
01:59:56.000 If she's smart, she would just keep training.
01:59:58.000 Yeah, I read something about her saying that she's not into fighting, though.
02:00:02.000 Not anymore?
02:00:03.000 Maybe it was just a bad translation.
02:00:05.000 Maybe she changed her mind.
02:00:06.000 I don't know.
02:00:06.000 I know she was into it for a while, but I don't know.
02:00:09.000 And if we haven't heard anything from her, it's probably a smart thing on her behalf.
02:00:14.000 Just disappear and go train for a few years.
02:00:16.000 But just imagine if you get someone like a female Gary Tonin who decides, like, you know what?
02:00:21.000 I'm just gonna start strangling bitches.
02:00:23.000 I'm just gonna make my way into MMA and these girls can't fuck with my jiu-jitsu.
02:00:26.000 Fuck that noise.
02:00:27.000 What if you get a Serena Williams?
02:00:29.000 Exactly.
02:00:30.000 What?
02:00:31.000 She's like, let me see the armbar.
02:00:33.000 Got it.
02:00:33.000 But dude, she's just ripping bitches' faces off.
02:00:36.000 Yeah, if you get that level of athlete who commits to it, or a Marion Jones-like, and then you go, wait, I can make money over here?
02:00:44.000 I'm going to do this.
02:00:45.000 How about get one of those track and field chicks and teach them how to kick?
02:00:49.000 Good fucking lord.
02:00:51.000 It still takes years, though.
02:00:52.000 It does, but that was one of the things about Aldo, you know?
02:00:55.000 Aldo started off playing soccer.
02:00:56.000 It's one of the reasons why his fucking leg kicks were so nasty.
02:00:59.000 Soccer, then jiu-jitsu.
02:01:00.000 And then he started picking up and doing stand-up.
02:01:04.000 His leg kicks were fucking ridiculous.
02:01:07.000 Crazy.
02:01:07.000 And it's because of that.
02:01:08.000 And he's kind of fucked that he gets kind of left out of it.
02:01:10.000 He's the one who gets fucked in this.
02:01:12.000 What do you do when a guy gets knocked out like that in 13 seconds in the fairest world possible?
02:01:18.000 As soon as he's ready to go, he gets to fight for the belt.
02:01:21.000 You owe it to him.
02:01:22.000 You do.
02:01:22.000 You owe it to him.
02:01:23.000 But do you allow him to choose between a rematch with McGregor or if Frankie beats McGregor, he fights Frankie for the belt again?
02:01:32.000 He fights for the belt no matter who has it.
02:01:34.000 Do you let a fight happen in between his fight?
02:01:37.000 Do you give him the time to recover?
02:01:38.000 Yes.
02:01:38.000 Or do you put the belt aside, put it on hold, and say the belt does not get fought for until Aldo comes back?
02:01:45.000 Well, that's what you're doing with Ronda.
02:01:47.000 It is what you're doing with Ronda.
02:01:48.000 It is.
02:01:49.000 Don't say you.
02:01:50.000 No, I'm not saying you.
02:01:51.000 I'm saying Scrooge McDuck.
02:01:52.000 Right.
02:01:53.000 But that is how they look at it.
02:01:55.000 They look at it in terms of finances.
02:01:56.000 They think that if you look at Holly, Holly almost lost to Raquel Pennington in her pro debut.
02:02:02.000 Or UFC debut, rather.
02:02:03.000 She won a split decision to Raquel in a close fight.
02:02:07.000 Then she fought Marion Renu.
02:02:09.000 Is that who she fought?
02:02:10.000 Mm-hmm.
02:02:11.000 Beat her, and beat her decisively, then just pulled out the fucking performance of a lifetime against a charging opponent, someone who really played into her strengths.
02:02:19.000 If you look at the aggression that Ronda had, none of the other fights that she had, no one was that aggressive chasing after her.
02:02:26.000 People were much more respectful of her striking ability.
02:02:28.000 But Ronda just charged right at her.
02:02:29.000 She also didn't fight at a really high level.
02:02:32.000 Ronda didn't.
02:02:32.000 That's striking, no.
02:02:33.000 Not at all.
02:02:34.000 They're all very amateur.
02:02:35.000 And if you look at, at least on paper, credential-wise, no one's as high-level as Hawley in MMA and in the women's division, other than Ioanniu Jacek and this new woman, Shwevchenko.
02:02:50.000 It's a tough name, man.
02:02:51.000 Yeah, it's rough.
02:02:52.000 There was a couple tough ones on that card.
02:02:55.000 Yeah, I saw that.
02:02:55.000 But Holly is like a 19-time, how many times did she win?
02:02:59.000 Nine-time.
02:02:59.000 Nine-time World Boxing Champion.
02:03:01.000 This chick's 17-time World Muay Thai Champion.
02:03:03.000 Then you've got Ioana Jacek, six-time World Muay Thai Champion.
02:03:07.000 I just think, with Joe Zalto, what he's done for the sport, give him time off, let him heal, and then...
02:03:13.000 Let everything else figure itself out, make these huge fights, and then when Jose goes, alright, I'm ready, a year from now, you give him the title shot.
02:03:19.000 Hasn't everybody jumping?
02:03:20.000 No, that's what I was going to say.
02:03:21.000 Have they made the decision already?
02:03:23.000 No.
02:03:23.000 Didn't Dana say the winner of...
02:03:25.000 Wasn't there a quote that Dana said the winner of Cerrone Dos Anjos gets Conor?
02:03:32.000 I think what he said was that Conard could fight for the lightweight title next.
02:03:36.000 That could be a fight they do.
02:03:37.000 Oh, he never guaranteed anybody anything.
02:03:39.000 But even if he does, they take it back.
02:03:41.000 Yeah, it doesn't matter.
02:03:42.000 Misha was guaranteed the title.
02:03:44.000 She was pissed.
02:03:44.000 If she beat Jessica Ai.
02:03:45.000 She beats Jessica Ai and they're like, eh.
02:03:48.000 Like, we're good.
02:03:50.000 Change of plans.
02:03:51.000 Yeah, they just changed it on her.
02:03:52.000 It's tough, man.
02:03:53.000 Look, man.
02:03:54.000 But, you know, Diaz did say...
02:03:56.000 If you perform, they'll make it happen.
02:03:58.000 I think...
02:03:59.000 He might have been high as fuck when he said that.
02:04:02.000 He said in an interview right after, he goes, Joe Silva guaranteed me I get Conor.
02:04:07.000 I'll tell you one thing that I... I gotta give props to Jeff Nowitzki, not just for what he's done to scare the fuck out of everybody and make them all get off the sauce, because he's definitely done that.
02:04:17.000 That's the word.
02:04:17.000 But also, he was outspoken about Nick Diaz, about Nick Diaz's suspension.
02:04:23.000 He said it's not right.
02:04:24.000 He said it's bullshit.
02:04:25.000 Here, you got a guy who's the fucking USADA, USADA drug guy, and he's saying it's bullshit.
02:04:32.000 And he's saying it's a bullshit decision.
02:04:34.000 And he's gone after some motherfuckers.
02:04:34.000 You're talking about Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong, big cases.
02:04:37.000 Yeah.
02:04:38.000 Mary Jones.
02:04:39.000 Uh-huh.
02:04:39.000 Yeah, he went after everybody.
02:04:40.000 Do they test for weed and cycling?
02:04:42.000 Is there...
02:04:44.000 What'd you say?
02:04:45.000 Do they test for weed and cycling?
02:04:46.000 I think they do.
02:04:47.000 You know, there was a study recently that showed that ultramarathoners benefit from weed.
02:04:51.000 I think they eat it.
02:04:52.000 I think they eat it and it helps them run more.
02:04:55.000 Not all of them.
02:04:57.000 Why do you say that?
02:04:58.000 Why do you say not all of them?
02:05:00.000 Well, not all marathon runners smoke weed.
02:05:02.000 No, no, no, but the ones that do.
02:05:03.000 Yeah, it benefits them.
02:05:04.000 You say not all of them means some guys eat weed and it doesn't do shit for them.
02:05:08.000 They run off track or some shit.
02:05:09.000 They run off track or some shit.
02:05:10.000 Joshua Tree's high as fuck running through the woods.
02:05:14.000 It sounded like you said all marathon runners No, I said ultra.
02:05:18.000 Ultra.
02:05:19.000 Ultra marathon runners?
02:05:20.000 Here it is.
02:05:21.000 The debate over running while hot.
02:05:23.000 For ultra marathon runners, marijuana has enormous benefits, but is it ethical?
02:05:27.000 What is this in, Jamie?
02:05:28.000 What's the Wall Street Journal?
02:05:29.000 Wall Street Journal is writing about it.
02:05:31.000 Well, that's pretty legit.
02:05:32.000 Powerful Wall Street Journal.
02:05:33.000 Whoa!
02:05:34.000 I thought it was going to be some bullshit.
02:05:35.000 The world's changing, Eddie Bravo.
02:05:36.000 Dude.
02:05:37.000 Since you first got me high 15 years ago, the world has changed radically.
02:05:41.000 Yeah.
02:05:42.000 Yeah.
02:05:43.000 Andy Bravo's the catalyst.
02:05:44.000 That's El Diablo right there.
02:05:45.000 El Diablo right there.
02:05:46.000 He gave me the first joint.
02:05:47.000 We had an ice cream sundae, and I was never the same.
02:05:50.000 Where's that devil dust, son?
02:05:52.000 That Colombian devil dust?
02:05:52.000 I'm trying to get on that shit.
02:05:54.000 Everybody thought I was the crazy stoner, man.
02:05:56.000 I was like, God, I gotta get Joe.
02:05:57.000 If I could get Joe fucking stoned, they won't think I'm crazy.
02:06:01.000 They won't think I'm crazy.
02:06:02.000 Yeah, that was...
02:06:03.000 I mean, shit.
02:06:03.000 Well, there were so many misconceptions.
02:06:05.000 So many people have misconceptions.
02:06:06.000 To this day, they have misconceptions.
02:06:07.000 It's the pothead culture that kind of fucked you.
02:06:09.000 Well, you know what it is, man?
02:06:10.000 There are some people that are just fucking lazy.
02:06:12.000 And the idea is that pot gets you lazy.
02:06:14.000 Yes.
02:06:14.000 That's not true.
02:06:16.000 You know, I think it does the opposite, to me at least.
02:06:18.000 It depends who you are, yes.
02:06:20.000 But to me, it makes me paranoid of being lazy.
02:06:22.000 How about that?
02:06:24.000 I get high and I want to get things done.
02:06:25.000 I'm like, oh, I gotta clean my office.
02:06:27.000 Some people get high and just don't move and eat Cheetos.
02:06:30.000 And then blame it on that.
02:06:31.000 I really believe those people would just do the same thing.
02:06:33.000 Yeah, they're lazy no matter what.
02:06:34.000 I really do.
02:06:35.000 I really think there's a lot of people that are just lazy.
02:06:37.000 There's also a lot of people that are just not thinking right.
02:06:41.000 You don't enjoy rest unless you deserve it.
02:06:46.000 That's the reality of life.
02:06:47.000 If you're just fucking off your whole life, it's not as fun.
02:06:52.000 Like, rest is fun when you deserve it.
02:06:54.000 Yes.
02:06:54.000 Like, it feels good to eat after you work out.
02:06:57.000 Like, if you lift and you fucking beat your ass in the gym, and then you go have a steak, oh, it's the most delicious food ever.
02:07:03.000 The best.
02:07:04.000 But if you just have a steak, yeah, it's delicious, but you don't even know how good it is.
02:07:08.000 You don't know how good it is.
02:07:09.000 If you just pushed your body before you ate it, you would enjoy it so much more.
02:07:14.000 I mean, you might not be in the lifting or any kind of working out.
02:07:17.000 That might not be your thing.
02:07:18.000 But my point is that, like, if there's some things that you really need to do and you fuck off and you don't do them and you get laid, you're gonna hate yourself.
02:07:26.000 There's gonna be a part of you that knows you didn't do the shit you were supposed to do.
02:07:29.000 And if you fuck off and you get too lazy and don't accomplish things, you're not gonna enjoy the rest as much as you do when you do accomplish things.
02:07:36.000 Like, you talk about it.
02:07:37.000 Like, you get home from class.
02:07:38.000 You work all day, teach class, you get home and you watch Netflix.
02:07:41.000 It's a joy.
02:07:42.000 Dude, I love...
02:07:43.000 I'm almost done with Breaking Bad.
02:07:47.000 I always wait until a hundred people tell me, dude, you gotta see it.
02:07:50.000 You haven't seen it?
02:07:51.000 Dude, you gotta...
02:07:51.000 It's the greatest show on TV, bro.
02:07:53.000 I gotta hear that a hundred times, and I'm like, cool.
02:07:55.000 I want it to be true.
02:07:57.000 I just need to hear it, because...
02:07:58.000 I can't get into it.
02:07:59.000 I watched one.
02:08:00.000 Breaking Bad?
02:08:01.000 No, you gotta go back.
02:08:02.000 It's good.
02:08:03.000 I watched the first one, too, and I didn't like the pilot too much.
02:08:06.000 Me neither.
02:08:06.000 But people kept saying, you gotta give it time.
02:08:08.000 Really?
02:08:09.000 Yeah, the characters, it's a great show.
02:08:11.000 I watched the whole first season when I was getting my right arm done.
02:08:14.000 When I was getting my right arm tattooed, I watched it all on iPad.
02:08:18.000 That's the best.
02:08:18.000 Getting tattooed while you're watching a good show, because you don't even notice it.
02:08:24.000 This annoying thing on my arm.
02:08:27.000 I look over, ooh.
02:08:30.000 And I just started Walking Dead.
02:08:32.000 Just started Walking Dead.
02:08:33.000 Oh, Walking Dead's good.
02:08:34.000 You really liked it, right?
02:08:35.000 Oh, I love it.
02:08:35.000 Walking Dead?
02:08:36.000 Oh, no, you haven't seen it.
02:08:37.000 No, I've seen Walking Dead.
02:08:38.000 It's good.
02:08:38.000 It shits the bed for one season, though.
02:08:40.000 I'm going to tell you this right now, and I want to tell you when.
02:08:42.000 There's a part in time where I was like, these motherfuckers, I'm ready to leave this show.
02:08:45.000 And then they fired everybody, and they hired all the new writers, and they just...
02:08:49.000 It's back.
02:08:50.000 Brought it back from the dead with a vengeance.
02:08:52.000 Completely redeemed themselves.
02:08:53.000 Yeah, it hit a rough spot.
02:08:55.000 Did you see Narcos?
02:08:56.000 But they recognized it.
02:08:57.000 Of course.
02:08:57.000 No, I haven't seen Narcos.
02:09:00.000 God damn it.
02:09:00.000 Are you kidding me?
02:09:01.000 It's going to be hard to watch TV after it.
02:09:03.000 No, seriously.
02:09:04.000 It's the greatest shit.
02:09:05.000 I'm in the middle of this fucking President show, though.
02:09:07.000 I'm in the middle of House of Cards right now.
02:09:09.000 Okay, I'll jump on that.
02:09:10.000 Dude, one and a half, actually.
02:09:13.000 I watched it on the plane.
02:09:14.000 American Airlines, they got the little screen thing in front of you.
02:09:16.000 They had Netflix on it.
02:09:17.000 TV's back.
02:09:18.000 We're all excited about TV, man.
02:09:20.000 About 10 years ago, we said, TV sucks!
02:09:23.000 You know what brought it in?
02:09:24.000 HBO and the internet.
02:09:25.000 Uncensored.
02:09:25.000 That's what made it back.
02:09:27.000 Correct.
02:09:27.000 And even when you're watching those shows like Breaking Bad, it's cable.
02:09:31.000 They can say things you can never say on network.
02:09:33.000 And show things, yeah.
02:09:33.000 They can't say everything, but they can get close.
02:09:36.000 Like Walking Dead.
02:09:37.000 They get close.
02:09:39.000 They could get away with way more, but they still have commercials.
02:09:42.000 Like, commercials fuck everything up.
02:09:44.000 They're terrible.
02:09:45.000 You gotta watch it on Netflix or on Apple TV. I subscribe to those things.
02:09:50.000 Oh, hell yeah.
02:09:51.000 Apple TV, man.
02:09:52.000 That's the shit.
02:09:53.000 The best.
02:09:53.000 I need a new show, man.
02:09:54.000 I need one.
02:09:55.000 We're all excited about shows.
02:09:57.000 I'm telling you.
02:09:58.000 TV's good again.
02:09:59.000 Fuck.
02:09:59.000 House of Cards.
02:10:00.000 One episode.
02:10:00.000 Ten minutes into the first episode, I was like, oh, yeah.
02:10:03.000 It's good.
02:10:04.000 I need that shit.
02:10:04.000 I gave up on The Last Man on Earth, man.
02:10:07.000 I heard it sucks.
02:10:08.000 I got to like a season and a half.
02:10:11.000 I'm like, fuck.
02:10:11.000 I can't do it no more.
02:10:12.000 I heard it started off really good.
02:10:14.000 Yeah.
02:10:15.000 You know, the performance, the head guy, he's fucking brilliant.
02:10:20.000 He's so funny?
02:10:21.000 He's so good.
02:10:22.000 But he's so good at annoying you.
02:10:24.000 You hate that character so much that you end up hating the show because you hate him so much.
02:10:30.000 Wow.
02:10:30.000 Damn.
02:10:32.000 He plays the biggest douchebag ever.
02:10:35.000 He's the last man on earth.
02:10:37.000 He's the guy from Saturday Night Live, right?
02:10:39.000 I don't know if he's in Saturday Night Live, but he did Tim and Eric stuff.
02:10:42.000 Oh shit, you know what else is really good?
02:10:44.000 The new Bob and Dave show.
02:10:46.000 The guys who did Mr. Show with Bob and Dave.
02:10:50.000 Bob and Dave?
02:10:51.000 Yeah.
02:10:52.000 Yeah.
02:10:53.000 Bob Odenkirk and Dave Cross.
02:10:54.000 Yeah.
02:10:55.000 The new one is fucking hilarious.
02:10:56.000 It's really good.
02:10:57.000 I watched one episode of that.
02:10:58.000 That's another Netflix show.
02:10:59.000 I was balls deep in The Wire for a while.
02:11:01.000 Did you watch The Wire?
02:11:02.000 I watched one episode.
02:11:03.000 I never got into it.
02:11:04.000 The Wire?
02:11:05.000 I know.
02:11:05.000 It's supposed to be awesome.
02:11:06.000 I think I went into the second episode, but it was years ago.
02:11:08.000 People keep saying The Wire, too.
02:11:10.000 They keep saying that.
02:11:10.000 That's on the back burner.
02:11:12.000 I know.
02:11:12.000 I need to.
02:11:13.000 Jamie's nodding.
02:11:14.000 I know.
02:11:15.000 Legit as fuck.
02:11:16.000 I know.
02:11:16.000 I need to.
02:11:17.000 But I need to watch all these goddamn documentaries, too.
02:11:19.000 Everybody's always telling me.
02:11:20.000 That's my favorite thing, documentaries.
02:11:21.000 There's so many documentaries out there.
02:11:21.000 I need a good one.
02:11:22.000 People tweet me a good documentary, please.
02:11:24.000 Oh, you're gonna get overwhelmed.
02:11:25.000 Well, I'll just take- Prepare for the fucking cavalcade of chemtrail documentaries.
02:11:29.000 No, no, I'm not into that.
02:11:31.000 I don't need conspiracy theories.
02:11:32.000 I need some legit shit.
02:11:33.000 Your phone right now.
02:11:37.000 Let me ask you this heavyweight.
02:11:38.000 Where do you put Alistair over him now?
02:11:41.000 He just knocked the fuck out Junior Dos Santos.
02:11:43.000 Against the number two guy.
02:11:44.000 Not only that, he's the first guy to ever fight Junior and not take any damage.
02:11:48.000 He took zero damage.
02:11:49.000 Who the fuck else has ever fought Junior Dos Santos and not taken any damage?
02:11:53.000 He had great footwork.
02:11:54.000 Dude!
02:11:55.000 Very smart.
02:11:56.000 They avoided each other for sure.
02:11:59.000 He's not stupid.
02:12:00.000 He baited him in.
02:12:01.000 He baited him in.
02:12:02.000 He started opening up in that second round.
02:12:04.000 People were booing, but you try fighting a knockout artist with the smallest margin of error.
02:12:10.000 You dodged left instead of right, the night's over.
02:12:13.000 So when I see that, I'm like, I get it.
02:12:15.000 They're just trying to get a vibe here.
02:12:16.000 And people are booing.
02:12:17.000 I'm like, no, just fucking wait for it.
02:12:19.000 Not only that, but Junior is like...
02:12:21.000 Taking his time, too.
02:12:23.000 And he's just balled up looking to uncork bombs.
02:12:27.000 It's respect.
02:12:27.000 Yeah, and when Junior's throwing, those punches are...
02:12:30.000 They're whizzing by.
02:12:31.000 Oh, they're night-enders.
02:12:32.000 They all have death on them.
02:12:33.000 There's no feeling out with those two.
02:12:35.000 So I respect that first round.
02:12:36.000 And then the second round, I mean, that left hook was from fucking Mars.
02:12:40.000 He opened up with a bunch of shit in that second round.
02:12:42.000 First of all, he started off orthodox, and he started killing that front leg.
02:12:46.000 He hit him with some zippers.
02:12:49.000 He's a free agent, though.
02:12:50.000 He's a free agent.
02:12:51.000 Alistair is?
02:12:51.000 Yes.
02:12:51.000 Ooh, that's big.
02:12:53.000 And then that body shot, oh my god, he kept hitting him.
02:12:55.000 He was switching stances real good, and he was constantly moving, and he said to me after the fight, first thing he said is that Wim Hof breathing stuff works.
02:13:04.000 Goddamn.
02:13:05.000 We were talking about it before I did the interview with him, and he goes, that Wim Hof stuff works.
02:13:09.000 That's dope.
02:13:09.000 He wants to do the podcast.
02:13:10.000 I've got to get him on the podcast.
02:13:11.000 He'd be brilliant.
02:13:12.000 Yeah, that'd be great.
02:13:13.000 You want to talk about a guy who's been stopped a lot.
02:13:17.000 A lot.
02:13:18.000 I mean, it's amazing.
02:13:19.000 He's had a lot of losses.
02:13:21.000 As far as he's gotten, if you go back and watch kickboxing and then Strikeforce, or not Strikeforce, he didn't get stopped in Strikeforce.
02:13:29.000 K-1, Pride.
02:13:30.000 He got stopped in Pride.
02:13:32.000 I mean, if you look at the stoppage losses that he got in K-1 and in Pride, in Strikeforce he was the champ.
02:13:36.000 He never lost in Strikeforce, I believe.
02:13:38.000 He beat Verdum in Strikeforce.
02:13:39.000 He fucked up Brett Rogers.
02:13:43.000 Fucked up.
02:13:43.000 That was when he was the Ubering.
02:13:45.000 Oh my God.
02:13:46.000 He was a totally different animal.
02:13:47.000 Threw Brett Rogers to the ground?
02:13:48.000 Oh my god.
02:13:49.000 He kicked Brett Rogers in the beginning of the first round with a right leg kick.
02:13:54.000 When you see the look on Brett Rogers' face, he just realizes, oh shit.
02:13:59.000 It was just a completely different level of striker than he'd ever faced.
02:14:02.000 Because he had beaten Orlovsky, but he caught Orlovsky like nervous and tentative.
02:14:07.000 Orlovsky was standing in front of him and it scared Orlovsky.
02:14:10.000 You know, Arlowski had this period of time where he was in a rut before he went with Jackson and Winklejohn.
02:14:14.000 When he was getting knocked out?
02:14:15.000 Yeah.
02:14:15.000 He was training with Freddie Roach?
02:14:16.000 He was in a rut.
02:14:18.000 He was in Chicago.
02:14:19.000 He wasn't training with Jackson and Winklejohn down in Albuquerque.
02:14:23.000 And then they took him on.
02:14:24.000 And he even had a big loss when they took him on.
02:14:28.000 Karatanov.
02:14:28.000 Sergei Karatanov.
02:14:29.000 That's a tough fight, especially at the time when he fought him.
02:14:31.000 Karatanov was on fire.
02:14:33.000 Karatanov was on fire.
02:14:33.000 He was on fire.
02:14:34.000 Knocked him out.
02:14:34.000 What's the latest with him?
02:14:36.000 Arlowski?
02:14:36.000 He's killing it.
02:14:36.000 He's fighting Stipe.
02:14:37.000 He's killing it.
02:14:38.000 No, no, no, Karatanov.
02:14:39.000 Karatanov?
02:14:39.000 Oh.
02:14:39.000 Karatov did something.
02:14:43.000 I'd like to point out that that was Brandon Schaub's voice, not Eddie Bravo's.
02:14:47.000 I'm not UFC employee, motherfucker!
02:14:50.000 I don't know.
02:14:51.000 I think he fought in glory, right?
02:14:53.000 Yeah, he fought in glory.
02:14:54.000 I don't know what he's doing these days.
02:14:56.000 He did some kickboxing for a while.
02:14:57.000 I think he had a back injury, too, that set him back a bit.
02:15:00.000 I don't know what he's doing these days.
02:15:02.000 Tearing yellow book pages or some shit.
02:15:04.000 He's just a man's man.
02:15:04.000 How about Fedor's opponent just gets announced like a day ago?
02:15:08.000 The worst market of all time.
02:15:08.000 When did that get announced?
02:15:10.000 He's irrelevant now.
02:15:11.000 I don't give a fuck who he fights.
02:15:12.000 He's fighting that kickboxing, that Indian kickboxing guy.
02:15:14.000 People thought it was a joke when they announced it.
02:15:16.000 Oh, no, they did.
02:15:16.000 Like, there's no way.
02:15:17.000 Nah, man.
02:15:18.000 There's no one available.
02:15:19.000 There's no one available.
02:15:20.000 It's silly.
02:15:21.000 What if they made the Overeem versus Fedor fight?
02:15:24.000 Sergei Karotanov.
02:15:25.000 I'm currently negotiating with UFC, Bellator, and Glory.
02:15:28.000 Posted today.
02:15:28.000 Oh, today.
02:15:29.000 Thicker than a Snickers on that picture.
02:15:31.000 Yeah, it looks like you've been eating a lot of sausages.
02:15:35.000 He looks scary as fuck.
02:15:36.000 He's dangerous.
02:15:38.000 He's a motherfucker.
02:15:40.000 Barnett fucked him up, though.
02:15:41.000 Yeah, he did.
02:15:42.000 Barnett fucked him up.
02:15:43.000 Barnett got him down and fucked him up.
02:15:44.000 But you know what I remember, man?
02:15:45.000 I remember him holding Semmy Schilt down and hammer fisting him in his eyeball.
02:15:50.000 Remember that?
02:15:50.000 And Semmy Schilt is screaming.
02:15:52.000 He's hammer fisting the same eyeball that he's fucking up.
02:15:56.000 And he's like mounting them.
02:15:57.000 He's like mounting them high on the chest.
02:15:58.000 Because Semi wasn't like the best grappler in the world.
02:16:00.000 He was just nasty kickboxer.
02:16:02.000 He had great wrist control.
02:16:04.000 He would have dudes that would mount them and he would just hold their wrists.
02:16:07.000 He was so long and he would punch back.
02:16:09.000 He would strike off his back.
02:16:11.000 Pete Williams had him in the mount.
02:16:13.000 He couldn't do shit to him, and he survived.
02:16:16.000 The round ended.
02:16:17.000 Next round, Sammy Shaw throws some front kicks.
02:16:20.000 We've never seen that before.
02:16:22.000 Front kicks to the body.
02:16:22.000 He threw right to the body.
02:16:23.000 Boom.
02:16:24.000 And we thought, it's because he's seven foot tall.
02:16:27.000 Nobody...
02:16:29.000 You know, with normal legs can get away with shit like that.
02:16:32.000 Once they started learning it, it's crazy how that's taken off.
02:16:35.000 The earliest ever kick that you learn in traditional martial arts is like one of the most recent kicks that people are successful with.
02:16:43.000 That's crazy.
02:16:44.000 No one was throwing it.
02:16:45.000 There was a video just a few years ago of you and I in my garage.
02:16:47.000 You were asking me about front kicks.
02:16:49.000 Will someone ever throw up?
02:16:53.000 That was the question.
02:16:54.000 Will someone ever throw that Bruce Lee kick like that to the pool?
02:16:58.000 And that was, my thought was like, man, you gotta time it perfect.
02:17:01.000 To the jaw.
02:17:01.000 To the jaw.
02:17:01.000 And then Anderson Silva.
02:17:02.000 Oh my god.
02:17:04.000 And everyone downloaded that data.
02:17:06.000 That slow motion of Vitor's head snapping back from that front kick and his legs buckling.
02:17:11.000 And him going down, Anderson beating on him.
02:17:13.000 It's a very popular fight now.
02:17:15.000 Oh, yeah.
02:17:15.000 Who's Anderson?
02:17:16.000 Because Vitor doesn't want to fight him.
02:17:17.000 He's not going to fight him.
02:17:18.000 Vitor won't fight him, and Rockhold is calling out Vitor, which is very fascinating.
02:17:22.000 Because what do you do there?
02:17:23.000 Here's a good question.
02:17:24.000 Do you have a rematch with Weidman, or do you have him fight Yoel before Yoel turns 50?
02:17:29.000 No.
02:17:30.000 Yoel is 63 years old.
02:17:33.000 If he's gonna fight for the title.
02:17:34.000 It has to be like now, like tomorrow.
02:17:36.000 No bullshit, he's 38. Like, at what point in time?
02:17:39.000 I mean, if he's clean.
02:17:40.000 He didn't do enough for me to earn that title shot.
02:17:43.000 I think Weidman-Rockhold 2 is the fight, 100%.
02:17:47.000 That's the fucking fight.
02:17:49.000 Because if Weidman didn't throw that...
02:17:52.000 Terrible spinning heel kick with a fuck that was.
02:17:55.000 You don't throw that, we got a different fight on our hands.
02:17:56.000 Yeah, people give me a hard time about the difference between saying turning side kick and spinning back kick.
02:18:01.000 You're totally right.
02:18:02.000 I say spinning back kick because that's what everybody calls it.
02:18:05.000 But the real spinning back kick is like a donkey kick.
02:18:08.000 It's like heel up.
02:18:09.000 I always call a turning side kick a spinning back kick.
02:18:12.000 Or sometimes people throw it like a spinning side kick.
02:18:16.000 The difference between, people also give me a hard time about the wheel kick spinning hook kick, like I had a conversation with this dude about it online, but that's the same kick.
02:18:23.000 The difference between a hook kick and a wheel kick is like the difference between a long left hook and a short left hook.
02:18:27.000 It's the same kick.
02:18:28.000 You're spinning, you're using the heel, but there's two different types of wheel kicks.
02:18:32.000 There's a wheel kick that's like with the leg is bent, and then there's a stiff leg wheel kick.
02:18:38.000 Dos Santos threw it and missed, right?
02:18:40.000 No, he landed it on Hunt, but he kind of caffed him.
02:18:44.000 He tried it against over him, if you remember, but he missed.
02:18:47.000 You're right, he missed it.
02:18:49.000 But the stiff leg wheel kick is very rare.
02:18:52.000 You have to have a sucker.
02:18:54.000 You have to have a guy who's really standing in front of you, but it's so powerful.
02:18:59.000 You've seen me throw a stiff leg one on the back.
02:19:01.000 But they happen.
02:19:03.000 Stiff leg one's rare.
02:19:05.000 Usually it's a bent one.
02:19:06.000 Like the one with Terry Edom and...
02:19:08.000 What does Edson Barbosa throw?
02:19:11.000 That's what I said.
02:19:12.000 He throws the wheel kick.
02:19:13.000 It's a bent leg.
02:19:13.000 That's a wheel kick.
02:19:14.000 Here's what happens.
02:19:15.000 It's bent up until like The point of contact and then it sort of snaps out.
02:19:20.000 The stiff leg one, like you've seen me throw it on a bag.
02:19:24.000 Your leg becomes stiff way earlier.
02:19:26.000 It's way earlier.
02:19:28.000 Your leg gets stiff like halfway in.
02:19:30.000 Again, this is like big-time technicalities.
02:19:33.000 They're basically the same kick.
02:19:34.000 But the back kick and the turning side kick, they are different.
02:19:38.000 Like Chuck Liddell throws the back kick.
02:19:40.000 He would throw it, he's like throwing it on bags, shows people holding the pad for it, and he'll throw it.
02:19:45.000 And so he throws it like donkey kick style, like the heel is up, toes are down.
02:19:50.000 The way Barboza throws it, he throws it spinning side kick or turning side kick, where the foot is flat and the heel and the toes are parallel to the floor.
02:19:59.000 Nasty.
02:19:59.000 It's nasty.
02:20:00.000 To answer your question about Overeem, though, you can make a good argument that he deserves a title shot.
02:20:07.000 He's won four of his last five.
02:20:08.000 He's marketable as fuck.
02:20:10.000 But Ben Rothwell knocked him out just a couple of fights ago, and he's unbeaten, too.
02:20:15.000 But Ben Rothwell fights Barnett.
02:20:17.000 Yes, he fights Barnett, and maybe the winner of that fight, then they decide.
02:20:23.000 Because Barnett versus Ben Rothwell is in New Jersey in January, right?
02:20:28.000 What about Stipe Arlowski?
02:20:29.000 That's a very good point.
02:20:30.000 What do you do with Arlowski if he wins that fight?
02:20:32.000 Well, Stipe went to war with Junior, right?
02:20:35.000 Fought five hard rounds, went to war, lost a real close fight, but got dropped and legitimately lost.
02:20:40.000 He's ranked ahead of Junior now, by the way.
02:20:43.000 I don't know about that.
02:20:44.000 That doesn't make any sense.
02:20:46.000 So it goes Kane 1, right?
02:20:47.000 Verdum's champ.
02:20:48.000 Kane's 1. Orlowski's 2. Stipe's 3. I forget who 4 is.
02:20:54.000 That doesn't make any sense to me.
02:20:55.000 I think if Junior beat him, Junior should be ahead of him.
02:20:58.000 Even if Junior just got knocked out by Alistair.
02:21:01.000 Alistair's ranked behind Junior now.
02:21:03.000 Okay, that's insane.
02:21:05.000 That's insane.
02:21:06.000 Those ratings are fucking bananas.
02:21:08.000 Isn't it funny?
02:21:09.000 No, here's even worse than this.
02:21:11.000 When Conor McGregor knocked out Aldo, there's a Brazilian judge or writer or whatever the fuck, journalist, whoever gets to vote on these things, that voted Conor down four spaces on the pound for pound.
02:21:24.000 That's why these things are a joke.
02:21:26.000 But that makes that guy...
02:21:29.000 He is no longer credible.
02:21:30.000 You cannot have that guy vote anymore.
02:21:31.000 That's a disgrace.
02:21:33.000 It's got to be old, because if you go back, it has Overeem under Dos Santos.
02:21:38.000 No, it's current.
02:21:39.000 This is current.
02:21:39.000 Even though he just knocked out Dos Santos, he's still ranked below him.
02:21:42.000 Holy home is ranked below Ronda.
02:21:44.000 That doesn't make any sense.
02:21:44.000 Yeah.
02:21:45.000 She knocked Rhonda.
02:21:46.000 That's automatic.
02:21:47.000 That's automatic.
02:21:47.000 This is old.
02:21:48.000 How the fuck does that mean?
02:21:49.000 No, no, Eddie, that's not automatic.
02:21:51.000 This is updated, man.
02:21:51.000 Do you understand?
02:21:52.000 They have some goofy system of how they do this thing, and there's a bunch of dummies out there that somehow or another think Rhonda should be ranked above Holly after Holly knocked her out because Rhonda's beaten so many people.
02:22:04.000 That's insanity.
02:22:05.000 These same silly hoes wait for us to do these podcasts so they can talk shit about us.
02:22:11.000 Well, this is clearly the most nutty thing ever.
02:22:14.000 If you look at the heavyweight division, Jamie, scroll down for the heavyweight division, please.
02:22:17.000 Who do you got on the rematch?
02:22:19.000 Hold on a second.
02:22:19.000 Let's go over this real quick.
02:22:21.000 Look at this.
02:22:22.000 Cain Velasquez makes sense, of course.
02:22:23.000 He was the champion.
02:22:24.000 He lost to Fabricio.
02:22:25.000 He's beaten everybody else, right?
02:22:26.000 That makes sense.
02:22:27.000 He's the champ.
02:22:28.000 Arlovsky, he's done really well, but...
02:22:32.000 Number two, boy, that's a tough sell.
02:22:35.000 That's a tough sell when you look at the difference between the guys he's beaten and then you look at the guys that Alistair's beaten.
02:22:41.000 If you look at Alistair just beating Junior, I think you've got to put him right up there with Arlovsky.
02:22:45.000 Alistair lost to Travis Brown.
02:22:47.000 Arlovsky beat Travis Brown.
02:22:48.000 That's true.
02:22:48.000 That's a good point.
02:22:49.000 That's a good point.
02:22:50.000 Junior beat Stipe.
02:22:54.000 It's fucking weird.
02:22:55.000 It's tough because Junior and Arlovsky never fought.
02:23:00.000 That's a great fight.
02:23:01.000 That would be a great fight.
02:23:02.000 That's the fight that's going to happen if Andre loses.
02:23:05.000 If Andre loses.
02:23:06.000 100%.
02:23:06.000 Boy, who knows what's going to happen with Junior now, though.
02:23:09.000 When Junior gets KO'd like that, you've got to take some time off, right?
02:23:11.000 He's never been the same.
02:23:12.000 To me, after the Kane fights, it took too much out of him.
02:23:17.000 See, I look at the fight with Orlovsky and you.
02:23:19.000 That's a super close fight.
02:23:21.000 That was so close.
02:23:22.000 That was anybody's fight.
02:23:23.000 Anybody could have won that fight.
02:23:24.000 Most people say Shob won.
02:23:26.000 When I mean most people, I mean everyone.
02:23:28.000 And then Orlovsky's last fight against Frank Mir.
02:23:32.000 That was another, like...
02:23:34.000 He knocked out, remember, after me, he knocked out Bigfoot.
02:23:36.000 Travis Brown.
02:23:36.000 He knocked out Bigfoot.
02:23:38.000 Which was beautiful.
02:23:38.000 Frank Mir, Travis Brown.
02:23:40.000 Nice fighting Stipe.
02:23:41.000 We didn't knock out Frank Mir.
02:23:43.000 Him and Frank Muir had that really boring fight.
02:23:47.000 And they're like, let's do it again!
02:23:48.000 Absolutely not, sir.
02:23:49.000 So that's two fights that he had that were really slow to pull the trigger, not much happens.
02:23:54.000 Travis just went after him, and he went after Travis, and I think a lot of that might have been familiarity, because both those guys knew each other really well from the gym, from training together.
02:24:03.000 And the word was that Arlovsky would get the better of Travis in sparring.
02:24:07.000 When there's nothing on the line, it's all just skills, right?
02:24:10.000 When you're just in the cage, you're training together, there's no pressure, there's no media, there's no nothing, then you just see skills.
02:24:18.000 Arlovsky has some vicious fucking striking skills.
02:24:21.000 Like if you go back to just skills, you go back to his early fights and you watch his knockouts when he was the UFC heavyweight champion, Fuck, dude.
02:24:29.000 Dude, his right hand was a piston.
02:24:31.000 There was no fat to it.
02:24:33.000 He would just uncork that motherfucker on dudes and just sleep them.
02:24:37.000 I think the reason, A, why my fight in Orlowski's was so boring is we trained a lot together, too.
02:24:43.000 And they were, I mean, if judges are scoring, it was the same fight.
02:24:47.000 It was very, like, super close.
02:24:49.000 So we knew each other.
02:24:50.000 So we were both so nervous when we fought.
02:24:52.000 Because when you're going in, you're like, fuck!
02:24:54.000 Anything can happen.
02:24:55.000 Fuck!
02:24:55.000 This fight's gonna be tough.
02:24:57.000 Yeah.
02:24:58.000 Yeah, and Arlovsky, knowing that he had that advantage over Travis Brown from training, looked real confident in that fight, too.
02:25:04.000 He looked real relaxed in that fight.
02:25:06.000 What a fucking crazy slugfest that was.
02:25:10.000 The Travis Brown-Arlovsky fight might have been one of the greatest first rounds or one-rounders ever in the history of the heavyweight division.
02:25:15.000 I agree, especially where they're ranked.
02:25:16.000 And now you got Brown vs.
02:25:18.000 Mitrione.
02:25:19.000 That's a motherfucker for a fight.
02:25:20.000 Travis Brown's fight in Mitrione?
02:25:22.000 In Boston, son.
02:25:23.000 On TJ and your boy Cruz's card.
02:25:26.000 Whoa, that's right.
02:25:27.000 Brace yourself.
02:25:28.000 That's a good fight.
02:25:29.000 A lot of people are overlooking that.
02:25:30.000 It's a great fight.
02:25:30.000 Why did I feel like Mitrione was fighting somebody else?
02:25:34.000 That's a great fight.
02:25:35.000 That's a stand-up war.
02:25:37.000 You know what else is a great fight that's happening in New Jersey?
02:25:42.000 Roy Nelson.
02:25:42.000 Roy Nelson.
02:25:42.000 No, I'm sorry.
02:25:44.000 Josh Barnett and Big Ben Rothwell.
02:25:46.000 That's a great fight.
02:25:47.000 That's a great fight.
02:25:48.000 Of veterans.
02:25:49.000 Especially after Josh Barnett looked so good against Roy.
02:25:53.000 He looked fantastic against Roy.
02:25:54.000 He looked amazing.
02:25:55.000 Although he got taken down a bunch.
02:25:57.000 So what?
02:25:58.000 Nothing happened.
02:25:59.000 You know you got Roy versus Jared Rochelt.
02:26:01.000 Yeah, that's a good fight too.
02:26:03.000 It's not really a blockbuster.
02:26:04.000 I'm just saying you got it, though.
02:26:05.000 Well, Rochard's got a, you know, he's got a minus P's and Q's against Roy.
02:26:08.000 Yeah, he's going to be in front of Roy.
02:26:11.000 He's been knocked out before.
02:26:12.000 Yeah, and he's going to be in front of Roy.
02:26:14.000 You know, he's not, like, going to be Alistair Overeem-ing it.
02:26:17.000 The way Overeem fought Roy, he got knocked down, too.
02:26:20.000 Remember that?
02:26:20.000 He's a very good wrestler, and he could put, he might, we might see Roy Nelson on his back a lot.
02:26:25.000 You're right.
02:26:25.000 You're right.
02:26:26.000 We might.
02:26:27.000 That's his game plan, 100%.
02:26:28.000 Yeah.
02:26:29.000 It's a really good point, man.
02:26:30.000 High level wrestling right there.
02:26:32.000 Yeah, that fight's not gonna break any records as far as style points.
02:26:35.000 I can promise you that.
02:26:36.000 Unless Roy just knocks him to fucking next week.
02:26:38.000 Did you see that fucking new dude, Nganou?
02:26:41.000 The French guy?
02:26:42.000 Yes!
02:26:43.000 Bodied up!
02:26:45.000 Was that DJ from Street Fighter?
02:26:46.000 He was bodied up, son.
02:26:49.000 Dude, that guy is fucking big.
02:26:51.000 He got on the scale, and all I could look at is the size of his feet.
02:26:55.000 I was like, this guy's got canoes.
02:26:58.000 He's got canoes under his ankles.
02:27:00.000 He's a fucking monster.
02:27:00.000 He hits hard, too.
02:27:02.000 But he got taken down off of a kick, but the dude who took him down couldn't do anything with him, and then he got back up and just boxed him up, man.
02:27:11.000 Nasty power.
02:27:12.000 Him and that DJ... Is it DJ Lewis?
02:27:14.000 The Beast?
02:27:14.000 Him and DJ need to fight some black-on-black crime.
02:27:17.000 Oh, the boxer?
02:27:18.000 No, no, the Beast.
02:27:19.000 You know the Lewis who knocked out...
02:27:21.000 Oh, I know who you're talking about.
02:27:23.000 Remember?
02:27:23.000 He was, like, beating his chest.
02:27:24.000 And then called out Mitrione, and Mitrione's like, huh?
02:27:26.000 And knocked him out in like 30 seconds.
02:27:27.000 Derek Lewis, right?
02:27:28.000 Yes!
02:27:29.000 Derek Lewis.
02:27:30.000 Oh my god.
02:27:31.000 A little black-on-black crime.
02:27:32.000 Yeah, but this dude, Nganou, is a nasty striker.
02:27:35.000 That boy's bodied up.
02:27:36.000 He's also really good, man.
02:27:38.000 His striking is fucking strong.
02:27:40.000 I really enjoyed watching his striking.
02:27:42.000 I was like, ooh, this guy with a few fights under his belt?
02:27:44.000 How's his ground game?
02:27:45.000 Well, he had good defense.
02:27:47.000 Being French.
02:27:47.000 He got taken down.
02:27:48.000 You're right.
02:27:49.000 He got taken down and he got controlled on the ground, but not much happened to him there.
02:27:53.000 And once he got up, good Lord.
02:27:55.000 He hit that dude with a left uppercut that just shut the lights out.
02:27:59.000 It came right through the arms, too.
02:28:01.000 Right through the guard.
02:28:02.000 Like, right up the middle.
02:28:03.000 There's a better uppercut over the weekend, not to change subjects, but did you see Ortiz versus Jennings in the heavyweight bout?
02:28:08.000 Yeah.
02:28:08.000 Yes, I did.
02:28:09.000 Jennings has never been knocked down.
02:28:11.000 Ortiz's uppercut was fucking filthy.
02:28:14.000 Yeah, he's nasty, man.
02:28:15.000 He's a 36-year-old Cuban.
02:28:16.000 No one wants to fight.
02:28:18.000 Southpaw.
02:28:19.000 Everyone's like, what the fuck?
02:28:20.000 And they couldn't believe Jennings took the fight because he has over like 350 amateur fights.
02:28:23.000 Well, Jennings, he fought Klitschko.
02:28:26.000 To a decision.
02:28:26.000 Yeah, and had a real good fight with him.
02:28:28.000 And, you know, he's got to take that fight because this is a fight that if he beats this dude, it sets him right back up.
02:28:33.000 The only thing is, they're saying with Ortiz, like, no one really knows him.
02:28:36.000 He's super dangerous.
02:28:37.000 Southpaw, 350 amateur flights.
02:28:39.000 Just this monster in Cuba.
02:28:40.000 The technique.
02:28:42.000 So clean.
02:28:43.000 He is fucking nasty, man.
02:28:45.000 So good.
02:28:46.000 He's older, so it's time to get going.
02:28:47.000 Yeah, well, that's what I feel about Yoel Romero.
02:28:50.000 But Yoel Romero, is there a guy alive built better than that man?
02:28:54.000 I mean, if Mr. Universe was real...
02:28:56.000 I agree.
02:28:57.000 Like, if it wasn't some freak who just shoots D-ball into his dick hole until his fucking neck explodes, if it was actually, like, what's, like, the best-looking body for an athlete, it's Yoel Romero.
02:29:07.000 Or Woodley.
02:29:07.000 Woodley's right up there.
02:29:08.000 He's right there.
02:29:09.000 He's right there.
02:29:10.000 Yoel Romero's weirder, though.
02:29:12.000 He's weirder, because Woodley, it almost makes sense.
02:29:15.000 It seems like he's really well built, but it all makes sense.
02:29:18.000 Romero looks like an action hero.
02:29:19.000 He doesn't look real.
02:29:21.000 First of all, he's got all this extra neck and shoulder muscle.
02:29:24.000 He looks like a ninja turtle.
02:29:25.000 It's all built up like a shell.
02:29:27.000 Yeah, like a ninja turtle.
02:29:28.000 And then his waist is that small, and his abs are just retarded.
02:29:31.000 They don't even make sense.
02:29:34.000 Boom!
02:29:34.000 Yeah, it's like if you saw him in a comic book, you'd be like, why don't they make more realistic representations of men?
02:29:38.000 Why are you holding men up to these unrealistic images?
02:29:41.000 You're fucking with our body images.
02:29:42.000 You're ruining men.
02:29:43.000 You guys are so racist.
02:29:45.000 How's that racist?
02:29:46.000 He looks like those action figures that you got as a kid.
02:29:49.000 He looks just like a fucking freak.
02:29:51.000 How's that racist?
02:29:52.000 I don't think he gets the title shot, though.
02:29:54.000 The fight was too boring.
02:29:55.000 They should make them fight again.
02:29:56.000 He fought sick.
02:29:57.000 Apparently he had the flu.
02:29:59.000 That's what they were saying.
02:29:59.000 They were saying he was sick right up until...
02:30:01.000 Well, Brockhold's foot was about to fall off and he still did work.
02:30:03.000 He had staff.
02:30:04.000 Yes.
02:30:05.000 Horrible staff.
02:30:06.000 And he won by stoppage.
02:30:08.000 Yes.
02:30:08.000 So, the rematch, if you are Joe Sova...
02:30:13.000 From Scrooge?
02:30:13.000 Well, you're either one.
02:30:14.000 Okay.
02:30:15.000 Whoever makes the calls.
02:30:15.000 I gotta be Scrooge to make the calls.
02:30:17.000 I don't ask.
02:30:17.000 Okay, if you're Scrooge, what do you think?
02:30:21.000 Weidman, Rockhold 2. I could see that.
02:30:24.000 Easy.
02:30:24.000 That's easy.
02:30:25.000 Everything else doesn't make sense and is in a big fight.
02:30:27.000 The only thing I would like to see Yoel Romero fight for the title because of his age.
02:30:32.000 I feel like he's so good.
02:30:34.000 He's so good and he doesn't have much time left at that level.
02:30:38.000 When you're that level and also he relies on speed and athleticism.
02:30:42.000 You're not talking about a Bernard Hopkins.
02:30:44.000 That's like this super crafty technician.
02:30:47.000 Because once that goes.
02:30:48.000 Yeah.
02:30:48.000 Bernard, like, the perfect example of the difference between Bernard and, like, say Roy Jones Jr. Like, Roy Jones Jr. was athleticism and speed and all this crazy power and technique.
02:31:00.000 But he wasn't like the classically trained boxer like Bernard was.
02:31:04.000 So he beat Bernard early in his career.
02:31:07.000 But then when they fought late in the career, Bernard was older than him by several years.
02:31:11.000 Yeah, man.
02:31:12.000 And...
02:31:13.000 And Bernard beat him.
02:31:15.000 Bernard just outboxed him.
02:31:17.000 Just fought with better technique.
02:31:18.000 When Roy's speed and power was all gone and his chin wasn't the same.
02:31:22.000 Did you see him just get knocked out last week?
02:31:24.000 He fought again?
02:31:26.000 Dude, he got knocked dead.
02:31:27.000 He got knocked dead in Russia.
02:31:29.000 Fourth round.
02:31:30.000 Do we have a video of that?
02:31:31.000 There's like 18 people in the crowd.
02:31:32.000 Oh, man.
02:31:33.000 No, no, he's popular in Russia.
02:31:34.000 Wait a minute.
02:31:34.000 How old is he?
02:31:35.000 He fought a cruiserweight contender.
02:31:37.000 That's the problem.
02:31:37.000 How old is he?
02:31:38.000 195. Fought a 195. He was the champion.
02:31:41.000 He's a champion at 175. And then, of course, he went up to heavyweight.
02:31:44.000 He fought John Ruiz.
02:31:45.000 Won the heavyweight title.
02:31:48.000 Wasn't that 20 years ago?
02:31:49.000 A long time ago.
02:31:51.000 He's 46, I think.
02:31:52.000 That's not that old.
02:31:54.000 No.
02:31:54.000 That is old.
02:31:55.000 Well, it's old.
02:31:57.000 He's still fighting, son!
02:31:58.000 46-year-old Roy Jones Jr. knocked out in first bout as a Russian citizen.
02:32:02.000 That's so rough.
02:32:03.000 They had to throw a Russian citizen there.
02:32:05.000 Note the red, white, and blue theme of bloodyelbow.com.
02:32:08.000 What if they paid him?
02:32:09.000 I mean, he's red, white, and blue.
02:32:11.000 It's like that statement along with their color layout.
02:32:16.000 It's just coincidental, but it's almost like, fuck you, you fucking traitor.
02:32:19.000 Yeah.
02:32:20.000 It's just weird.
02:32:22.000 It's a bummer to see him get knocked out.
02:32:24.000 What if they paid him to get knocked out?
02:32:26.000 No, no, no.
02:32:26.000 Hell no.
02:32:27.000 You don't think they're not a legend like that?
02:32:28.000 They would never do.
02:32:29.000 He doesn't need money.
02:32:30.000 Well, no, it was a good fight up until he got tagged, dude.
02:32:33.000 I mean, it's real odd.
02:32:34.000 You want to see it?
02:32:35.000 I would love to see.
02:32:36.000 Find the video.
02:32:36.000 It's behind the air that fucks him.
02:32:38.000 Well, he first got dropped with an uppercut.
02:32:40.000 Less than a round?
02:32:40.000 He fought a real good guy.
02:32:42.000 He fought a legit contender in the cruiserweight division.
02:32:44.000 And fighting a cruiserweight is like, you know, here it is.
02:32:48.000 The dude he fought is fucking good and the guy's long.
02:32:50.000 And it was a good fighter for a while, but like, look at Roy's body.
02:32:54.000 Like, what happened?
02:32:55.000 He's 46, fucking time happened.
02:32:58.000 I know, but look, Bernard Hopkins is 49, and he doesn't have as wide oasis as Roy does.
02:33:03.000 That doesn't look like a man who's in shape.
02:33:05.000 Wow.
02:33:06.000 He just doesn't look in good shape.
02:33:07.000 He looks like an HBO commentator trying to fight a fucking monster.
02:33:11.000 I mean, he's still very smart, but this does not look good to me.
02:33:15.000 Like, it doesn't look like he's in the best shape.
02:33:19.000 Like, being 49 doesn't keep him from losing body fat, or 46. It doesn't help.
02:33:25.000 It doesn't help, but how come Bernard looks so much gooder?
02:33:28.000 Bernard's a freak.
02:33:29.000 Did I just say gooder?
02:33:29.000 You did.
02:33:30.000 I'll take it, though.
02:33:30.000 I meant better, but I was in the wrong syllables.
02:33:32.000 Well, Bernard, genetically, is a freak.
02:33:34.000 Look at that nasty left hook to the body that dude just threw.
02:33:36.000 Meanwhile, I don't even know the dude's name.
02:33:38.000 He gets knocked down.
02:33:39.000 He looks at the crowd like, nah, I'm good, man.
02:33:42.000 And the homeboy's like, nah.
02:33:44.000 Who remembers Kevin McBride?
02:33:45.000 Do you remember Kevin McBride?
02:33:46.000 I don't.
02:33:46.000 He's the guy who retired Mike Tyson.
02:33:48.000 Nobody remembers him.
02:33:49.000 God dang.
02:33:51.000 Yeah.
02:33:51.000 We don't want to remember him.
02:33:52.000 Well, it's rough.
02:33:53.000 I mean, Tyson quit on a stool against this guy.
02:33:56.000 So Roy's still trying his same old tricks, like with that leaping left hook.
02:33:59.000 But he's just unhappy.
02:33:59.000 Here comes the uppercut.
02:34:01.000 Dude gets him in the corner here.
02:34:04.000 What'd you do?
02:34:06.000 How dare you?
02:34:07.000 Oh, there it is.
02:34:08.000 Boom.
02:34:08.000 See, now watch when he gets to the crowd.
02:34:10.000 He still has the ego.
02:34:11.000 You gotta love it.
02:34:13.000 Look at him.
02:34:14.000 He's like, this dude, it's all good.
02:34:17.000 I don't think he's looking in the crowd.
02:34:18.000 I think he's like seeing 30 fucking light bulbs.
02:34:20.000 He stuck his tongue out.
02:34:21.000 Like, it's all good, baby.
02:34:22.000 Yeah, he stuck his tongue out to the crowd.
02:34:24.000 Did he stick his tongue out or was he trying to put his mouthpiece back in?
02:34:27.000 No.
02:34:28.000 Watch, he's smiling.
02:34:29.000 Look, he's smiling.
02:34:31.000 Oh, yeah, you're right.
02:34:32.000 He stuck his tongue out.
02:34:33.000 But he might have been moving his jaw, too.
02:34:35.000 He might have been like this.
02:34:36.000 He's talking to the ref.
02:34:37.000 He said, I'm fine.
02:34:39.000 He was licking butterflies.
02:34:40.000 But look at this.
02:34:41.000 Yeah, this dude says, you ain't fine.
02:34:43.000 It's behind the air that fucks him, man.
02:34:45.000 Bing, bing, bing.
02:34:46.000 Look how he mixes his combinations, too.
02:34:47.000 Uppercut, and here's the right hand over the top.
02:34:49.000 Boom!
02:34:49.000 Behind the air.
02:34:50.000 Dink!
02:34:51.000 It's so hard to watch, man.
02:34:53.000 It's a bummer, man.
02:34:54.000 It's hard to watch him get felled like that.
02:34:56.000 It's like watching a guy get beat up.
02:34:58.000 And then the guy does the cross thing to make sure he doesn't die.
02:35:04.000 And he's like groaning and moving around while he's on his back.
02:35:08.000 Super fucked up.
02:35:08.000 I don't like looking at his legs.
02:35:10.000 Like look at his legs.
02:35:11.000 Those are like soft, mushy legs.
02:35:14.000 You know what I'm saying?
02:35:15.000 Like when I think of a guy like Roy Jones Jr., I think of like sinewy, fast twitch muscle fiber.
02:35:21.000 I think of a guy in shape.
02:35:23.000 I'm looking at his legs and I'm like, that's a guy who's not in shape.
02:35:26.000 He's one of the best boxers of all time.
02:35:27.000 Look at the definition.
02:35:29.000 Like, it's all missing.
02:35:30.000 Like, look at his body.
02:35:31.000 But a lot of boxers, like George Foreman.
02:35:33.000 George Foreman, when he fought Muhammad Ali, was fucking jacked.
02:35:36.000 Right.
02:35:36.000 And then he got super fat.
02:35:37.000 The difference is, George Foreman was a heavyweight.
02:35:40.000 And a heavyweight who gets fat is not giving up any weight.
02:35:43.000 You know?
02:35:44.000 I mean, George actually was 300 pounds.
02:35:47.000 But he was enormous.
02:35:49.000 Even when he was fat, he had enormous muscles.
02:35:51.000 What I'm looking at here is like a guy who looks like he's out of shape.
02:35:55.000 He just doesn't look at all like he's in shape.
02:35:58.000 He looks like he's an analyst for HBO that jumped in there with a killer.
02:36:02.000 It's just...
02:36:02.000 That's exactly what's going on.
02:36:03.000 You know what it is?
02:36:04.000 Look at this fucking uppercut.
02:36:05.000 Look at the look in this guy's face, too.
02:36:07.000 He's looking to murder.
02:36:08.000 Look at this.
02:36:08.000 Oh!
02:36:09.000 Oh, my God.
02:36:10.000 That right hand that put him away is terrifying.
02:36:14.000 Show that one more time.
02:36:15.000 Goddamn.
02:36:16.000 The way that looks in slow motion.
02:36:18.000 Look at this.
02:36:19.000 Look at him, just a killer.
02:36:21.000 Look at his eyes, and he just uncorks the perfect right hand to the side of Roy's head and watches him drop.
02:36:28.000 It's the same story that plays itself out time and time and time again.
02:36:33.000 That's fighters though, right?
02:36:34.000 They ground their shield, man.
02:36:35.000 Most guys, I mean, they don't become fighters because they don't enjoy this, you know?
02:36:40.000 But it's just so weird to watch.
02:36:42.000 It's so weird to watch it happen to Roy.
02:36:45.000 For whatever reason, like here, do me a favor and put on Roy Jones Jr. vs.
02:36:50.000 Virgil Hill.
02:36:51.000 Let's go back to the prime.
02:36:53.000 Go back to when he was the light heavyweight champion and he iced Virgil Hill with a right hand on his body.
02:36:58.000 His highlight reel?
02:36:58.000 Yeah, go to the highlight reel.
02:36:59.000 Go to his highlight.
02:37:00.000 Yeah, go to the Roy Jones highlight reel.
02:37:02.000 That's even better.
02:37:03.000 When they have his song?
02:37:05.000 Dude, this...
02:37:06.000 I mean, who the fuck was like this guy?
02:37:09.000 He's the best of all time to me.
02:37:10.000 I love him.
02:37:10.000 He's my favorite.
02:37:11.000 My favorite to watch, for sure.
02:37:13.000 Right up there.
02:37:14.000 You know the only other guy that was one of my favorites to watch, but for a different reason?
02:37:17.000 Well, Roberto Duran, for sure.
02:37:20.000 But also, look at his speed.
02:37:22.000 Look at his body, son!
02:37:24.000 Look at him dancing.
02:37:25.000 Robot.
02:37:26.000 He was amazing.
02:37:27.000 But he also had a weird body.
02:37:29.000 He had giant bicep muscles.
02:37:32.000 His biceps were giant.
02:37:33.000 Jesus Christ, look at that left hook.
02:37:37.000 He was just so fast, but he relied on this.
02:37:40.000 Look at that.
02:37:41.000 Come on, son.
02:37:42.000 Fast and powerful.
02:37:43.000 But once that goes away, it's not a fun game.
02:37:46.000 But look at his body.
02:37:47.000 Boom!
02:37:48.000 Look at his body here and compare it to the body of the dude that we just watched get knocked out.
02:37:53.000 I mean, this is a fucking...
02:37:54.000 Damn, look at his body there.
02:37:56.000 Yeah, dude.
02:37:56.000 He was 46, bro.
02:37:58.000 I know.
02:37:58.000 I understand.
02:37:59.000 No, I mean, I'm not saying that, you know, he has some sort of...
02:38:04.000 A work ethic problem.
02:38:06.000 I'm not saying it's a work ethic problem or anything like that.
02:38:09.000 I'm just saying it's just so fucked up to see.
02:38:11.000 There's no way he could train the same.
02:38:12.000 No.
02:38:12.000 At 46. The fight against Vinny Pazienza, they had a round where Vinny didn't land not one punch.
02:38:18.000 It was the only time ever in CompuBox history that the opponent didn't land a punch at all.
02:38:23.000 Dude, he was insane.
02:38:25.000 He would punch you and just be nowhere near you when you wanted to punch him back.
02:38:29.000 It was just on another level, speed and reflex-wise.
02:38:34.000 Completely different level than anybody ever.
02:38:36.000 What is that white boy doing?
02:38:37.000 It's just so sad to see this guy become the guy that we just watched.
02:38:43.000 That's what happens though, right, Joe?
02:38:45.000 If you keep fighting, this happens to everyone.
02:38:48.000 I guess, man.
02:38:48.000 Who doesn't it happen to?
02:38:50.000 I don't understand why.
02:38:51.000 Especially when you're famous as him.
02:38:52.000 You can fight whenever you want.
02:38:53.000 This is like when nobody knew who he was.
02:38:56.000 Dude, he was insane.
02:38:58.000 I was there for that fight.
02:39:00.000 I was there live for this fight.
02:39:01.000 Really?
02:39:01.000 Who's that?
02:39:02.000 I forget the dude's name.
02:39:03.000 He's like this light-skinned black dude.
02:39:05.000 I saw that dude fight somewhere else, too.
02:39:07.000 I saw that guy fight live in Mount Vernon, New York.
02:39:11.000 Or Mount Vernon or White Hill.
02:39:12.000 White Plains, rather.
02:39:14.000 One of these local boxing events.
02:39:16.000 I saw him fight, and I was like, wow, this guy's good.
02:39:18.000 And then I remember years later, he was fighting.
02:39:20.000 Do you remember Juan Roldan?
02:39:21.000 Oh, yeah, man.
02:39:22.000 He fought him.
02:39:23.000 He fought Juan Roldan?
02:39:25.000 Wow, I can't remember that.
02:39:26.000 I thought, no, didn't Hagler fight him?
02:39:28.000 God, Juan Roldan.
02:39:30.000 He's one of those names like Mustafa Hamshow.
02:39:32.000 You gotta go, oh yeah.
02:39:33.000 Oh, you know what?
02:39:34.000 Maybe it was, maybe it was, who'd you say, Marvin Hagler?
02:39:37.000 Yeah.
02:39:38.000 I might be remembering.
02:39:39.000 I think it was.
02:39:40.000 I think it was, but I don't remember either.
02:39:44.000 I feel like Juan Roldan was from a different era.
02:39:46.000 See if Juan Roldan fought Marvin Hagler.
02:39:49.000 Look at Marvin Hagler's record.
02:39:51.000 Such a monster, man.
02:39:53.000 I thought he fought Roy Jones, but I could be wrong.
02:39:55.000 You might be right, though.
02:39:56.000 I think early in Roy Jones' career, Juan Roldan was on his way out.
02:40:00.000 Oh, it's Marvin Hagler.
02:40:02.000 Marvin Hagler, yeah.
02:40:03.000 I think that was quite a few years earlier.
02:40:05.000 Yeah, I think so, man.
02:40:05.000 Now, check Roy Jones Jr., Juan Roldan.
02:40:10.000 No, it just keeps showing Juan Roldan versus Hagler and Hearns, different fights.
02:40:14.000 He fought Hearns, too, huh?
02:40:17.000 Thomas Hearns vs.
02:40:18.000 Juan Roldan.
02:40:19.000 Juan Roldan was a tough motherfucker.
02:40:21.000 So was Mustafa Hamsho.
02:40:23.000 There's a lot of tough guys.
02:40:24.000 Boxing's good right now, man.
02:40:26.000 It's great right now.
02:40:26.000 Boxing's phenomenal right now.
02:40:28.000 I saw this, uh, what is his name?
02:40:29.000 Walters?
02:40:30.000 Walters vs.
02:40:31.000 Sosa?
02:40:32.000 Bullshit decision though, man.
02:40:33.000 Oh yeah, that was before Ortiz Jennings.
02:40:35.000 Oh my god.
02:40:36.000 Yeah, I mean boxing stuff, man.
02:40:37.000 That was a bad decision.
02:40:39.000 It was really bad.
02:40:41.000 Terrible.
02:40:41.000 I was watching, I was like, this doesn't even make sense.
02:40:43.000 How the fuck did that happen?
02:40:44.000 Even Max Kellerman was like, what the fuck are we doing?
02:40:47.000 Where do you fit watching MMA in your schedule?
02:40:51.000 Like, where does it go?
02:40:53.000 How do you guys retain all this?
02:40:54.000 You must be watching these fights at least twice, right?
02:40:57.000 Depends on what the fights.
02:40:58.000 Like, obviously, I do it for a living.
02:41:00.000 Yeah, so you watch everything twice, right?
02:41:03.000 I watched the Cowboy Dos Anjos fight three times.
02:41:07.000 Okay.
02:41:07.000 Yeah, I just wanted to watch it again because I'm just so impressed.
02:41:11.000 He's just such a destroyer.
02:41:15.000 The combination that he threw when he had Cowboy hurt up against the cage, nasty and tight.
02:41:20.000 No wild, stupid shit.
02:41:22.000 It was just controlled aggression, just super aggressive, super fast.
02:41:28.000 Most guys you see get all wild because they're trying to finish it.
02:41:30.000 He stayed composed.
02:41:31.000 He beat the fuck out of them.
02:41:31.000 And then you guys are on top of boxing, too.
02:41:34.000 Well, I watched this last night.
02:41:35.000 I came home last night and I watched that.
02:41:36.000 I don't miss a fight, man.
02:41:37.000 I record everything.
02:41:38.000 I watch a lot of fights.
02:41:40.000 Kickboxing, I'm deep in.
02:41:41.000 That's my favorite shit.
02:41:43.000 My favorite shit is glory.
02:41:44.000 That's my favorite shit to watch right now.
02:41:45.000 See, boxing's my favorite right now.
02:41:47.000 Really?
02:41:47.000 More than MMA? No, no, no, no.
02:41:49.000 Come on.
02:41:50.000 No, UFC's number one.
02:41:51.000 You scared me.
02:41:52.000 What the fuck are you guys talking about?
02:41:54.000 MMA is 100% number one.
02:41:55.000 What's number two?
02:41:56.000 Of other shit, I should have clarified that.
02:41:59.000 Of other shit, glory is my favorite to watch.
02:42:01.000 It's boxing.
02:42:02.000 Okay.
02:42:02.000 Rico Verhoeven, did you see his last fight?
02:42:04.000 Yes.
02:42:05.000 He's a monster.
02:42:05.000 Good lord.
02:42:06.000 Dude, he's a motherfucker.
02:42:08.000 He's a motherfucker, dude.
02:42:09.000 And for guys who like stand-up, only watching get mad when UFC fights go to the ground, watch Glory.
02:42:17.000 But watch that, man.
02:42:18.000 Those fucking fights are boring burners.
02:42:21.000 They are good.
02:42:22.000 To me, there's just so many matches to make in boxing.
02:42:25.000 There's just so much good shit.
02:42:27.000 Yeah.
02:42:27.000 How about Terrence Crawford?
02:42:29.000 Watch that dude?
02:42:29.000 Yeah, man.
02:42:30.000 Amazing.
02:42:30.000 Good lord, he's good.
02:42:31.000 Goddamn, that dude's good.
02:42:33.000 Woo!
02:42:33.000 Really good.
02:42:34.000 He's such a good adjuster, too.
02:42:35.000 He adjusts in fights and switches stances really well from orthodox to southpaw.
02:42:39.000 You see his last fight?
02:42:41.000 Yeah.
02:42:41.000 As soon as he realized he switched southpaw and caught that dude with a right hook, he's like, oh, we're going to be fighting like this from now on, sir.
02:42:46.000 Yeah, man.
02:42:47.000 Beat the fuck out of the dude.
02:42:48.000 In Nebraska.
02:42:49.000 Yeah, close fight in the beginning of the first round until he found the rhythm and then figured it out.
02:42:53.000 Oh, I'll just switch stances up on this motherfucker.
02:42:55.000 They thought he was going to get a mega fight next against Floyd or something.
02:42:58.000 They're all scared.
02:42:59.000 Nobody wants that.
02:43:00.000 No one wants to fight him.
02:43:00.000 Fuck that.
02:43:01.000 Nobody knows who he is outside of Nebraska.
02:43:03.000 Everybody in Nebraska knows who he is.
02:43:05.000 A lot of hardcore boxing fans know who he is.
02:43:07.000 Yes.
02:43:07.000 But like the average Joe on the street, the average person, they know who Floyd Mayweather is.
02:43:13.000 They know who Pacquiao is.
02:43:14.000 That's the next fight.
02:43:15.000 Again?
02:43:16.000 I guarantee you.
02:43:17.000 I'm going to make a prediction.
02:43:18.000 This is my prediction.
02:43:20.000 In April, they're going to fight again.
02:43:21.000 I saw pictures of Manny Pacquiao.
02:43:23.000 He's back to training again.
02:43:24.000 Manny Pacquiao on his Instagram page today is hitting pads.
02:43:27.000 So he had a shoulder surgery.
02:43:29.000 They probably shot him up with the same shit they shot me up with.
02:43:32.000 He probably healed 50% quicker.
02:43:34.000 They fucking stem celled.
02:43:37.000 I know a lot of dudes are doing that now.
02:43:39.000 Ever since I... Got my stem cell shots and I started talking to him about it.
02:43:43.000 You swear by it, huh?
02:43:43.000 A bunch of other people started talking to me about stem cells, too.
02:43:46.000 Yeah.
02:43:46.000 Look at Manny Pacquiao.
02:43:47.000 Shoulder surgery.
02:43:48.000 A few months ago, he's full blast power punching on pads.
02:43:51.000 He looks like Charles Manson.
02:43:54.000 Full blast power punching on pads now, man.
02:43:57.000 Come on.
02:43:58.000 You're supposed to wait like a year.
02:44:14.000 That's one of the beautiful things about these guys too.
02:44:17.000 In between camp, like if they get injured, that's what steroids are for.
02:44:22.000 Boom.
02:44:22.000 It's what they're for.
02:44:23.000 They're supposed to get you back out there quicker.
02:44:25.000 For a football player or any sort of an athlete in another sport that doesn't get tested outside of seasons, you're supposed to do steroids.
02:44:34.000 Look at it, he's back!
02:44:36.000 He's got a little tiny baby scar, too.
02:44:38.000 They give you little baby scars.
02:44:39.000 That's a painting.
02:44:42.000 That's a lot of filters.
02:44:43.000 That's Photoshop, bro.
02:44:44.000 That's Photoshop, bro.
02:44:45.000 I can put my head on that.
02:44:46.000 They're going to put Eddie Bravo's head on that tonight.
02:44:49.000 I guarantee it.
02:44:50.000 Especially when you have that goatee.
02:44:52.000 Good luck, honeydicking the fans into Floyd Manning 2. Dude, it's going to happen.
02:44:57.000 This is my prediction.
02:44:57.000 I may be wrong.
02:44:59.000 I'm wrong about a lot of shit.
02:45:00.000 But here's my prediction.
02:45:01.000 They're going to open up that new arena in April.
02:45:04.000 The new arena in Vegas.
02:45:06.000 The big one.
02:45:06.000 And in April, they're going to have Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, dos.
02:45:12.000 Shit, I like it.
02:45:14.000 I'll bite the fuck out of it.
02:45:15.000 I think Floyd Mayweather starts talking.
02:45:18.000 It's right now.
02:45:18.000 It's December.
02:45:20.000 I think he starts talking somewhere around January, the end of January.
02:45:24.000 Ooh, I like where your head's at.
02:45:25.000 Starts saying, you know what, I'm thinking about coming back.
02:45:28.000 And then he honeydicks Terrence Crawford and Canelo Alvarez and everybody else.
02:45:32.000 Honeydicks all, because Canelo Alvarez looked good.
02:45:35.000 He looked good against Miguel Cotto.
02:45:37.000 He looked good.
02:45:37.000 He looked good.
02:45:38.000 I thought he looked real good.
02:45:39.000 Cotto's a motherfucker, dude.
02:45:40.000 He's a crappy dude.
02:45:41.000 He's older.
02:45:42.000 He's older, but he's still very good.
02:45:43.000 I think then Manny Pacquiao, they start going over the fact that he got the shoulder surgery, and then they show him hitting the pads to get everybody to believe again.
02:45:54.000 He starts talking about Jesus.
02:45:57.000 He starts doing the cross thing, and everybody's like, We're back in!
02:46:02.000 We're back in!
02:46:03.000 He didn't have a chance the first time!
02:46:04.000 Take my money!
02:46:04.000 The problem is, the first time he was injured...
02:46:06.000 I'm that guy.
02:46:07.000 Yeah.
02:46:08.000 I'm that guy.
02:46:08.000 They can get me.
02:46:09.000 I watch one countdown show, I am in.
02:46:12.000 Take my $100.
02:46:13.000 You know what I like?
02:46:14.000 I like the ones with Max Kellerman where they sit him across the table and they make him talk to each other.
02:46:17.000 Face-offs.
02:46:18.000 Those are my favorite.
02:46:19.000 And Max Kellerman says, like, he said that you are this.
02:46:22.000 Like, he said you have no chin.
02:46:23.000 How do you respond to that?
02:46:24.000 Yeah.
02:46:25.000 And it's usually some dude speaking Spanish.
02:46:28.000 And they're both sitting like A.C. Slater with a chair backwards staring at each other.
02:46:34.000 It's sick.
02:46:34.000 Those are great.
02:46:35.000 I love those.
02:46:36.000 Those are fun, man.
02:46:37.000 The UFC needs to do something like that.
02:46:39.000 Oof.
02:46:40.000 Well, that's the thing we're talking about, like Nate Diaz and Connor.
02:46:42.000 I think Eddie's got the best idea.
02:46:44.000 No, that's true!
02:46:45.000 You can't market that!
02:46:45.000 Prison glass with a phone.
02:46:47.000 Eddie Bravo's got it right!
02:46:49.000 Prison glass with a phone or through...
02:46:51.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Joey Hostin'.
02:46:53.000 No, you got three giant dudes in between them.
02:46:56.000 It's not good enough.
02:46:57.000 It looks bad.
02:46:57.000 Nate Diaz might still sucker punch him.
02:46:59.000 That's gonna hype the fight up even more.
02:47:01.000 Look at DC John Jones.
02:47:02.000 Why are you against this, Brendan?
02:47:04.000 Why are you against this?
02:47:06.000 What about a cage?
02:47:07.000 How about just a cage?
02:47:08.000 What do you like better?
02:47:10.000 I kinda like your prison glass even better than the cage.
02:47:13.000 They'd be breaking the fucking phone and shit.
02:47:16.000 They'd have to have a bunch of them.
02:47:18.000 Maybe a bunch of booze.
02:47:19.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:47:21.000 Or the cage.
02:47:22.000 Just put a fence up.
02:47:24.000 Do you really believe that Joe Silva told Nate Diaz that Conor McGregor is next?
02:47:30.000 Or do you think that Nate Diaz is being real smart and talking some shit and getting people excited about it?
02:47:34.000 Joe Silva's a smart guy.
02:47:36.000 He knows damn well he doesn't have the power to make that fight.
02:47:38.000 He knows damn well.
02:47:40.000 Motherfucking please.
02:47:41.000 Dana goes, huh?
02:47:43.000 That's not the fight?
02:47:44.000 Yeah, right?
02:47:45.000 Dana would probably text him.
02:47:46.000 Did you tell him that?
02:47:47.000 Joe goes, no, I didn't, sir.
02:47:48.000 What, what, what, what?
02:47:49.000 Ninja vs.
02:47:50.000 Ninja.
02:47:50.000 Diaz says UFC match.
02:47:51.000 Yeah, that's what we just said.
02:47:53.000 Yeah, I just don't...
02:47:54.000 I don't see him doing that.
02:47:56.000 I think Nate's being smart.
02:47:58.000 I think he's talking shit.
02:47:59.000 I think it's great.
02:48:00.000 I think he's talking shit.
02:48:01.000 You know who's not talking shit that should?
02:48:03.000 Who?
02:48:04.000 Frankie Edgar.
02:48:05.000 He should be.
02:48:06.000 Oh, no, he did.
02:48:06.000 He said if you're scared, get a dog.
02:48:08.000 Yeah, I saw that.
02:48:09.000 You gotta be relentless, though.
02:48:11.000 You know what I'm saying?
02:48:12.000 I know.
02:48:13.000 I guess.
02:48:13.000 But it's not his style.
02:48:14.000 It's not his style.
02:48:15.000 His fighting should speak for itself, but that's not the game plan now.
02:48:18.000 I feel like there's only one fight to make it featherweight.
02:48:21.000 There's only one fight.
02:48:22.000 It's 100% Frankie Edgar.
02:48:24.000 100%.
02:48:24.000 I couldn't be more emphatic about that.
02:48:27.000 But, fucking as a fan...
02:48:29.000 That's what I'm saying.
02:48:30.000 As a fan, I don't mind this fucking Nate Diaz fight.
02:48:33.000 I know.
02:48:34.000 And I love Frankie.
02:48:35.000 I want Frankie to get the shot.
02:48:37.000 I do too.
02:48:37.000 I love Frankie.
02:48:38.000 If you're the king, what do you do?
02:48:40.000 You can make all the fucking calls.
02:48:43.000 No, I'm Dana, I'm not Brendan.
02:48:45.000 I don't even mean you're not even Dana, because Dana has to talk to Lorenzo.
02:48:50.000 What if you're just the king?
02:48:52.000 You're the king.
02:48:53.000 What's the call?
02:48:54.000 Oh man, I'm getting in trouble here.
02:48:56.000 But if I'm trying to sell the fight, I want as much money as possible, it's Diaz-Connor on a world tour.
02:49:03.000 If I'm a good man and I have morals, I make Frankie Edgar, Conor, and then the winner of that fights Jose when Jose gets healthy.
02:49:11.000 Here's the question, though.
02:49:13.000 Can they tell Conor who to fight now?
02:49:15.000 Or is Conor so meteoric?
02:49:17.000 Is he so out of control?
02:49:20.000 Is he so off the charts?
02:49:22.000 What if Conor says, I want to be a promoter?
02:49:24.000 What if Conor says he wants to go money team?
02:49:27.000 He wants to co-promote and do like croak park?
02:49:30.000 He has the power.
02:49:30.000 He almost does.
02:49:31.000 He does.
02:49:32.000 Does he?
02:49:32.000 80,000 Dublin?
02:49:34.000 What?
02:49:35.000 Oh, he can sell that out in about a minute.
02:49:37.000 Literally a minute.
02:49:38.000 A minute.
02:49:38.000 Yeah.
02:49:39.000 I know it sounds like Ron is nuts, but he's the first guy over to do this.
02:49:42.000 Everybody's going to fill in their credit card information, and then at the stroke of midnight, 1159, they're all going to press enter at the same time.
02:49:48.000 Bro, I'm terrified.
02:49:48.000 And the computer's going to overload.
02:49:50.000 All the servers are going to crash.
02:49:51.000 For reals, I'm terrified to fly because of ISIS. I'm fucking, I'm there buying it.
02:49:57.000 Front row.
02:49:57.000 Fucking what?
02:49:58.000 Oh, dude, you'd be my guest.
02:49:59.000 You'd have to come.
02:50:00.000 It'd be amazing.
02:50:01.000 It'd be amazing.
02:50:02.000 Connor has the power to, if they go, we want you to fight Dos Anjos, he goes, nah, I'm good.
02:50:06.000 Notorious promotions.
02:50:07.000 I wonder.
02:50:08.000 He's gonna have his own fight.
02:50:10.000 Notorious.
02:50:10.000 Notorious.
02:50:11.000 Look, man, I don't know.
02:50:13.000 It's good for the sport.
02:50:14.000 He wants this.
02:50:15.000 Here's what's crazy.
02:50:16.000 It's almost like he can't get any bigger.
02:50:18.000 So what happens now?
02:50:19.000 Does he just go parallel?
02:50:21.000 Does he just keep staying this big for a long period of time?
02:50:24.000 Vin Diesel is fucking...
02:50:25.000 Satan of Hollywood going, come here.
02:50:27.000 I'm going to do final fucking Furious Fast 9. Come here.
02:50:33.000 Let's fuck your career.
02:50:34.000 And he's going to ruin it.
02:50:35.000 We're going to put you in fucking Transformer 13. Next thing you know, he's dating black chicks with big juicy asses and a lot of jewelry.
02:50:43.000 That sounds awesome.
02:50:45.000 That sounds ideal.
02:50:47.000 And he's driving a Mustang off the top of a building.
02:50:52.000 That's a fucking crazy movie.
02:50:55.000 Hopefully someone is in his ear telling the right stuff.
02:50:58.000 It's a fun time.
02:50:58.000 It's a fun time to be an MMA fan, that's for sure.
02:51:00.000 Especially for Conor McGregor.
02:51:02.000 If I'm Scrooge McDuck, I'm the king of the world, I make the Frank Edgar fight.
02:51:05.000 At least I make an attempt to.
02:51:06.000 I don't know how much influence they have over him, but what I would say is, I would say...
02:51:10.000 Honestly, your future probably is at 155 pounds.
02:51:13.000 You struggle to make 145, but your legacy will be complete if you beat Frank.
02:51:17.000 Okay, what if Conor goes, 145 is too tough for me.
02:51:21.000 I have to fight at 155. Abandon the 145 pound title and move up.
02:51:24.000 And fight who?
02:51:25.000 Jose Aldo meets Frankie Edgar in a rematch for the title.
02:51:29.000 I like that.
02:51:30.000 And then Nate Diaz.
02:51:33.000 Then you have Nate Diaz vs.
02:51:34.000 Conor.
02:51:34.000 His first fight at 55. If he gets past Nate Diaz, you'll 100% have him fight Dos Anjos.
02:51:38.000 Correct.
02:51:39.000 Dos Anjos fights Habib Nurmagomedov in the meantime.
02:51:41.000 No!
02:51:42.000 Why not?
02:51:43.000 He hasn't fought forever.
02:51:44.000 He's been injured.
02:51:45.000 That's true.
02:51:46.000 That's true.
02:51:47.000 If anything, Tony Ferguson has an argument.
02:51:51.000 Don't forget about Tony.
02:51:53.000 Tony Ferguson?
02:51:53.000 Dos Anjos?
02:51:54.000 That's a motherfucker.
02:51:55.000 Yeah, that could easily happen.
02:51:57.000 He can get the title shot.
02:51:58.000 Especially after the Barboza fight?
02:52:00.000 Fuck yeah!
02:52:01.000 That's true.
02:52:01.000 That's true.
02:52:05.000 It's ready.
02:52:06.000 They already made it.
02:52:06.000 Look at that.
02:52:07.000 Damn, they are.
02:52:08.000 Totally.
02:52:09.000 Photoshop dudes don't fuck around, man.
02:52:10.000 Hell no, that's legit, too.
02:52:12.000 They're so good at it.
02:52:13.000 Dude, that was quick.
02:52:14.000 So quick.
02:52:14.000 Did you do that, Jamie?
02:52:15.000 No.
02:52:15.000 Holy shit.
02:52:16.000 Fans don't fuck around.
02:52:17.000 Who did it?
02:52:17.000 Give the guy credit, whoever the guy was.
02:52:20.000 Find who the guy was.
02:52:21.000 Oh, snap.
02:52:22.000 What's his name say?
02:52:24.000 Just Casual?
02:52:24.000 Yeah.
02:52:25.000 Just casually.
02:52:25.000 You can't have the titties on TV though.
02:52:27.000 Don't let the titties get on TV. Yeah, that's my message board.
02:52:31.000 This guy's awesome.
02:52:31.000 My message board's filled with barbarians.
02:52:33.000 Really?
02:52:34.000 They're animals.
02:52:34.000 Barbarians.
02:52:35.000 In a good way.
02:52:36.000 Yeah.
02:52:37.000 What was I going to say?
02:52:39.000 Okay, so Tony Ferguson, you have fight Dos Anjos next.
02:52:42.000 Totally agree with that.
02:52:43.000 Yeah.
02:52:43.000 Great fight.
02:52:44.000 Great matchup.
02:52:45.000 But for the money though, the real big money fight for Dos Anjos is obviously Conor.
02:52:51.000 But outside of Conor, who's the big money fight?
02:52:55.000 Habib, we don't even know when Habib's gonna be back, right?
02:52:58.000 God, you can't say Pettis.
02:52:59.000 So do you have to give Habib a fight against a top guy before he gets a title shot?
02:53:04.000 100% he has to fight again.
02:53:06.000 Okay, so if so, who do you give him?
02:53:09.000 God, Tony Ferguson, because they're supposed to fight, right?
02:53:11.000 Who's Pettis fighting again?
02:53:12.000 Pettis is fighting someone really good.
02:53:14.000 Eddie Alvarez.
02:53:15.000 That's on the Fox card.
02:53:17.000 No, the FS1 in Boston.
02:53:18.000 Correct.
02:53:19.000 Wow.
02:53:20.000 Ben Saunders, Patrick Cotex.
02:53:22.000 That's right.
02:53:23.000 I'll be there.
02:53:24.000 Oh, you're going to be in Boston?
02:53:25.000 Fuck yeah.
02:53:25.000 Powerful Boston.
02:53:27.000 Yep.
02:53:27.000 I get there on Sunday.
02:53:28.000 Dude, that's a motherfucker.
02:53:29.000 That's a weird weekend for me.
02:53:30.000 I'm not there for the weigh-ins.
02:53:32.000 I've got Atlanta, a theater in Atlanta, and then a theater in Tampa.
02:53:37.000 And then I fly into Boston.
02:53:39.000 You know another fight that could sell like hotcakes at 55?
02:53:43.000 Conor and Pettis.
02:53:44.000 If Pettis gets by Alvarez.
02:53:46.000 Boy, that's a...
02:53:46.000 That's another blockbuster.
02:53:48.000 There's so many blockbuster fights for him at 55. That's a good fight.
02:53:50.000 That's a good fight for Pettis versus...
02:53:56.000 Conor is a good fight as far as like styles and on paper and stuff.
02:54:01.000 I think that's a really good fight, but man It's a tough sell after Nurmagomedov or after Dos Anjos rather beat up Pettis.
02:54:09.000 Like Pettis has got to get a victory under his belt in order to fire him up.
02:54:12.000 That's what I'm saying.
02:54:12.000 I'm saying if Pettis beats Alvarez, like let's say he gets a head kick KO, then it's like oh shit.
02:54:18.000 Yeah, if he beats him like he beat Lozon or something like that.
02:54:20.000 Yes, or Cowboy in Japan.
02:54:22.000 Yeah, I mean, look, Pettis, when he loses, usually comes back a way better fighter.
02:54:27.000 That's what happened when he fought Clay Guida.
02:54:29.000 Clay Guida stuffed him, shut him down.
02:54:30.000 He came back a way better fighter.
02:54:31.000 Pettis is one of my favorite fighters to watch ever.
02:54:33.000 He's spectacular.
02:54:34.000 He's fucking ridiculous.
02:54:35.000 Why do they separate the prelims and the main card if it's on the same channel?
02:54:39.000 Just so that people can time it so that it's like there's two different blocks of shows.
02:54:44.000 Okay.
02:54:44.000 So instead of having a six-hour block of fights, they have two three-hour blocks.
02:54:50.000 In this case, it seems like less than that.
02:54:52.000 It seems like two hours because it's only four fights and four fights.
02:54:54.000 First of all, you have Felder vs.
02:54:57.000 Crankshaw.
02:54:58.000 Crankshaw?
02:55:00.000 Crookshank.
02:55:01.000 Crookshank.
02:55:02.000 The Detroit superstar?
02:55:03.000 That's a motherfucking fight, son.
02:55:05.000 That's your fight of the night on that card.
02:55:07.000 Well, you know another candidate?
02:55:09.000 Ross Pearson vs.
02:55:11.000 Francisco Trinaldo.
02:55:11.000 Yeah, I'm not mad at that fight at all.
02:55:12.000 That's a good fight.
02:55:13.000 You can fight right there.
02:55:13.000 Kote Sanders?
02:55:14.000 This card's stacked.
02:55:15.000 Saunders.
02:55:16.000 Ben Saunders.
02:55:17.000 Eddie Bravo's student.
02:55:18.000 How dare you.
02:55:19.000 You know who's a bad motherfucker, too?
02:55:20.000 Tysimov.
02:55:21.000 That dude's a bad motherfucker.
02:55:23.000 Who's he fighting?
02:55:24.000 Yeah.
02:55:25.000 Yeah, he's nasty, man.
02:55:29.000 Marabek Tysimov, have you seen that guy fight?
02:55:31.000 He trains out of Phuket.
02:55:33.000 He's one of those...
02:55:34.000 One of them Russians.
02:55:35.000 Yeah.
02:55:37.000 Tiger Muay Thai.
02:55:38.000 He's a Tiger Muay Thai guy.
02:55:39.000 A lot of Russians, right?
02:55:40.000 Dude, so many.
02:55:41.000 The takeover has begun for the Russians.
02:55:43.000 I think we're out of time.
02:55:44.000 Are we out of time?
02:55:45.000 Yeah.
02:55:45.000 Dude, that card's a motherfucker.
02:55:47.000 It's a motherfucker.
02:55:48.000 So is time.
02:55:49.000 That was three hours.
02:55:50.000 What?
02:55:50.000 We talked about fights for 20 minutes.
02:55:51.000 We talked about sharks for an hour.
02:55:53.000 We talked about Kurt Cobain for two hours.
02:55:56.000 And the fights for 30 seconds.
02:55:58.000 We did.
02:55:59.000 We talked about the CIA killing John Lennon.
02:56:02.000 And we made a few steroid allegations.
02:56:05.000 We cleared it up.
02:56:07.000 We want to get the MMA media and give them some fruit.
02:56:10.000 There's your headlines, you little hoes.
02:56:12.000 Good night.
02:56:12.000 Good night, everybody.
02:56:13.000 We love you.
02:56:13.000 See ya.
02:56:17.000 That was so fun, man.