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00:00:29.000And this new one is really good, because it's got Max Holloway running on a treadmill, two treadmills over from Nurmagomedov, who's also running on a treadmill.
00:00:38.000And they're fucking very cool to each other.
00:01:28.000When Max was on my show, I was talking to him a little bit off air, and this is on record, I'm not spilling anything that he didn't say, but he just goes, you know, with the injury, Jesus Christ.
00:01:38.000Embedded, I think, is better than that UFC, not UFC, the HBO ones.
00:06:13.000I've been in deep depression because Ferguson fell out, and we've talked about this off air.
00:06:17.000But our sport's so special because what Max Holloway has the chance to do Saturday night, if he can beat him, if he can somehow pull that out, there's nothing like in professional sports.
00:08:11.000Well, when he gets heavier, but when they fight at 55, he makes that weight, and Conor makes that weight tough, too.
00:08:17.000They both struggle to make 155. It's a much easier cut for Conor at 55. It's not the hardest cut, but when you look at the difference between how he looks physically when he fought Nate at 170 and how he looks when he's, you know, 145, he was awful.
00:08:31.000I was going to say, Connick can make 145. Nate could never, I mean, there's no chance.
00:08:36.000He probably could have made it when he was on The Ultimate Fighter.
00:09:14.000Michael Johnson hit him, but that really wasn't...
00:09:18.000We were talking about that the other day.
00:09:20.000Who knows what was going on in that fight because that was a fight where he had the same issue cutting weight that he did when he had to pull out of the Ferguson fight where his body shut down.
00:09:52.000He'll entertain it for a little bit, but if he wants you down, there's literally no one in the world from, I'll say, 155 to 170 who he's not going to take down.
00:10:02.000I really want to see him in some straight grappling competition.
00:10:37.000Woodley could put people to sleep, grapple his ass off, hard to take down, and puts people to sleep with one shot.
00:10:44.000I don't think Woodley gets his due, and I think the best evidence is the two fights that people point to where they say that Woodley should have done better.
00:12:48.000And I think Dos Anjos is one of those guys where you point to a perfect example of a guy whose body just was not allowing him to compete at 155. Agreed.
00:12:57.000Because he's a fucking animal in his mind.
00:13:00.000I mean, no one works harder than that guy.
00:14:34.000You know who I think, and I'm not just saying this because he's my boy I've known for, but you know who I think could be his Achilles heel who matches up better with him than anyone?
00:15:05.000So for Khabib, he's grappled frickin' grizzly bears since he was four, and he's seen Sambo, he's seen black belt jiu-jitsu, he's seen all this stuff, you're not gonna catch him.
00:15:14.000With Ortega, it's a little different, and he actually encourages you to go to the ground.
00:15:18.000And he's dangerous on his feet, but on the grounds where he thrives.
00:15:21.000Isn't it funny how that thing about going to the ground...
00:16:03.000There's something about his jiu-jitsu, man.
00:16:06.000It's just ramped up and sharpened down to just a razor's edge, man.
00:16:12.000When he grabs a hold of stuff, you have very little room to get out.
00:16:16.000Yeah, and he sets it up from the clinch, and it's very unconventional, and the head snaps, especially like Tony Ferguson with the dart strokes where he's in Snap City.
00:16:24.000However, what I wanted to see in this...
00:16:27.000Ferguson-Khabib fight with the Snap City is like Josh Thompson and Fitch are like, oh no, we've never seen Khabib get his neck snapped down.
00:17:08.000I'm always fascinated when Khabib fights because you're always wondering, like, what's the first guy that's going to be able to give him something different?
00:17:30.000I think we did see, and I think people are taking for granted how good Khabib of a grappler is, because you talk to Frankie, you talk to Eddie Alvarez, I go, how hard is it to take down Barboza?
00:17:39.000They go, oh, it's damn near impossible in training.
00:17:42.000We don't get them down very easily, and they're badasses.
00:17:45.000So what Khabib did, we didn't think he was going to be able to do.
00:17:48.000And if you look at that third round when Barbosa gets taken down and he's kind of cage crawling, you look at his face, he looks like, get me the fuck out of here.
00:18:09.000I feel like we've seen the pound-for-pound greatness in him, like the potential for it, but we need to see him against pound-for-pound greats.
00:22:52.000But now he's forced to fight, and I see what the UFC's doing where they do an interim belt between Colby and Dos Anjos where, you know, it's interim belt.
00:23:01.000So now, Woodley, you literally have to fight the winner of this.
00:24:17.000Well, it's also weird, like, the UFC could just, they just decide who's fighting.
00:24:21.000I mean, it's the whole thing, the business is so interesting.
00:24:24.000Because it's like, they decide who's fighting, they decide who's champion, they decide, Tony, you're not champion anymore, we're going to strip you.
00:24:58.000And then Conor has the belt at 55, so what do you do with that belt?
00:25:02.000Well, what they were planning on doing, I believe, and now they've kind of let the cat out of the bag because they said it's going to be for the World Lightweight title.
00:25:08.000They were going to strip Conor the moment something happened, like the moment the fight started.
00:25:13.000That's when they were going to strip Conor.
00:25:55.000But Dana released a video and he's, listen, I'm sure he likes a good April Fools joke, but what he likes more is money and pay-per-view buys.
00:26:04.000You can't honeydick the fans and be like, psych, it's back on.
00:26:08.000People are We're going to be pissed and not buy it.
00:28:10.000I've seen a guy in a club, when I used to go to clubs, he'd have his glasses on, and then people would walk by, he'd lift them up and look around and put them back down because you can't see shit.
00:28:16.000The biggest tools wear glasses to fights.
00:28:20.000They wear sunglasses and they sit there with their fucking sunglasses on.
00:31:59.000Listen, I'm sure Gennady's been in there with over 500 people now, 400 people, and he just said in his experience he can tell who's on PDs and who's not, and he thought Canelo was.
00:34:45.000You know, Curzon said something very interesting to me when I said, like, what do you think fighters are missing most, like strength condition-wise?
00:34:54.000You know who's been on that ball since?
00:34:55.000God, since I've known him is Loren Landau, who I worked with in Denver, and now he just got the gig as the head condition coach of the Denver Broncos.
00:35:11.000There's some of those guys who it's like, oh, this is all new, and then you talk to a Loren or that Maxwell guy, like, we've been doing this for like 20 years.
00:35:18.000You guys are just now finding out about it.
00:36:56.000It was by far, he'd have these circuits, and it'd always end on that.
00:36:59.000I remember everyone, if he was like, here's your circuit, and you end on Versa, some of the best athletes in the world were just like, oh my god, man, what are we doing?
00:37:08.000Yeah, well, that's what they do at this gym that I've been working at.
00:37:10.000He lets you do a circuit, at the end of the circuit, you get on that Versa climber, and you sprint.
00:37:14.000And it's how much time to get to 150 meters.
00:37:57.000Well, there's a video of me doing 152. Right now, you only see the one with me kicking it with my jeans on, and that got to 135. Were they stretchy jeans?
00:44:42.000Heavy chin-up kick and heavy cleans and presses kick and that's probably where I wound up doing it because I felt some twinges and instead of just Working on it and like letting it heal up.
00:46:01.000Do you think if you went to physiotherapy, they would have shown you all this stuff before you injected yourself with all these needles and stuff?
00:47:09.000Could you imagine if all of a sudden you had someone's flat ass and then you had to walk around and you had to realize, oh my god, it's so hard to walk up hills.
00:47:26.000I've seen it where it might be one of the easiest muscles to build.
00:47:31.000There's some girls with flat asses, then you see them on Instagram, these Instagram models who do deadlifts or something, and then just over time, boom, that ass just grows like a tomato.
00:47:41.000If they really are motivated, you can get your ass to grow.
00:48:41.000That sounds weird to say, but there's a certain masculine quality that the people, the women that take massive amounts of steroids, they develop.
00:49:22.000If you want a soft, sweet, caring woman who likes to cuddle and is going to be a good mom and is just sweet to be around and kind and friendly.
00:54:19.000Which is why there's show time and I'm what I do well that mean this is what we We talked about the other day with Eve Edwards.
00:54:26.000He was in here That was that's one of those things like and I was saying when you talk as much as we talk We both I talk too much you talk too much we talk too much yes when you talk too much Shit comes out of your mouth.
00:55:12.000Before that show, me and Brian were talking about something with race and men and women, and somehow that entered my brain, and I have no animosity towards...
00:56:40.000Whoever had problems with it, if it's Eve Edwards, that's his own insecurities, which is so stupid because I couldn't even tell you what he should be insecure about.
00:57:48.000My biggest issue is whenever someone was hurt by my words or is upset by something I said, then I'm like, again, I don't know Eve's that well at all.
00:59:19.000He's going through my set, and I've been doing it so much lately.
00:59:24.000I'll be in the middle of it, and in my mind, I'll fast forward to already the next bit, and I'm thinking about that bit while I'm doing this one.
01:00:50.000And this is what hurts me about the Eve Edwards situation is the guys I look up to, yourself, Gary Shandling, they always help people, man.
01:01:15.000And I was watching the Gary Shanley doc, and I went, man, that's so cool.
01:01:18.000And that's why this Edwards situation is fucking me up, because I'm like, damn, man, I don't want to hurt anyone.
01:01:24.000But back to the comedy, I was so excited because Gary Shanley stuff, whenever they show Comedy Store stuff, it's just, I'm so into it, man.
01:01:33.000He was talking about the Comedy Store, and I got super inspired, and I was like, let's do this.
01:01:37.000I've never been more pumped to hit the stage, and then that happened.
01:04:18.000So, they have it like, this is like, you could do it in different colors, so you could have different, each one of those things, those little windows, can be like a box.
01:04:27.000That, you know, that doesn't look like a cork board, but sometimes you could change the background shit and make it actually look like a cork board.
01:04:34.000But what it is, is basically a board, a bulletin board, where you've taken an index card and you put it up there and the index card has the subject.
01:06:35.000But everyone I know, like, as far as who's at, just the tip of the spear as far as comedy, like you, Burr, D'Elia, there's one thing in common, all you guys work, man.
01:07:28.000It's like everyone's so close to you, even though it's like 1,100 people, 1,200 people, whatever it is, they're stacked up so close to you.
01:07:35.000It's like 500 on the bottom, and then, yeah.
01:07:38.000You know what's like that in the fight world is the Palms.
01:08:27.000When I thought I was going to be a Captain Saboho, and the guy pulled out a gun and I ran in my underwear and almost got kicked off the Ultimate Fighter.
01:08:33.000I've told this story on here, I think.
01:12:11.000I think if you're a creep, you can get sought out and found out.
01:12:14.000However, I think men in power, in position, and if there's an attractive young lady in the office or the studio, this is always going to be the dynamic.
01:14:56.000I fucked up one time and had let my shield down and told him I almost started crying in Comedy Central, and I just feel his neck get stiff and goes...
01:17:53.000I don't know if you guys know this, obviously I'm a complete bitch, but Gary Chandler talks about how his goal going through everything was to get on The Tonight Show, and then he does it, and he walks backstage and he kills it, right?
01:18:03.000But that was his goal, and he starts crying.
01:18:05.000He Falls into Bob Saget's arm starts crying, right?
01:18:08.000But he's talking about the Comedy Store, and he's talking about all the big names there, and I was thinking, God, that must have been cool to be involved in that back then, around all those big names.
01:18:36.000It's certainly the best time at the store in terms of the amount of time that I've been there, and I started going there in 94. It's a long time.
01:18:45.000So in 24 years that I've been going there, it's better now than ever before.
01:18:49.000But when you think about it, I mean, obviously there's the cellar in New York, but as far as like, you go there on a Tuesday night, go there on a Wednesday night.
01:23:03.000I'm like, fuck, I'd love a McGriddle, but I don't want to be judged right now.
01:23:07.000I'm going to wait to see if he goes to that fucking weird, bright place on the breakfast spot on the right, or is he going to go to McDonald's?
01:23:13.000When he started leaning over there, I went, I want to be mad at Egg McMuffin.
01:23:18.000And he just looked at me and went, yeah, fuck this.
01:26:57.000It said, uh, 61 men who formerly used Propecia who experienced more than three months of sexual side effects and had no history of depression, sexual problems of any sort.
01:31:51.000Whatever the medication his new psychiatrist got him on worked like a charm and like he was better in like a Couple months a couple months.
01:32:01.000He was like back to Ari fucking around laughing then oddly enough When it started working really well for him, then his career started taking off, right?
01:32:13.000His stand-up started taking off, his career started taking off, he became happier, got off the Propecia, and then weaned himself off the drugs.
01:34:31.000But then once you have a kid, it's like, I don't know, man.
01:34:34.000It's just a different animal where now, like, when I see the shootings, when I see, you know, the nuclear war talk with North Korea and Russia, I think, God, and I see a lot of negativity on social media and stuff like that.
01:34:48.000I'm like, the world is such a kind of a fucked up place if you want to look into that stuff.
01:34:53.000And when I have a kid, I think about him.
01:35:20.000If you're around the kid enough, it changes who you are.
01:35:24.000And if you're not around the kid, it changes who you are because then you realize you're not around the kid and that's going to take a piece out of who you think you are.
01:35:32.000And we have friends who aren't great dads or whatever and you can see it in their kids.
01:35:37.000And I'm not saying a psychologist or I'm some expert in parenting, but if I go to a person's house and I see the way the kids treat the parents, I go, you're not around enough, man.
01:38:53.000You know who opened my eyes like in a big way in a podcast recently that's really been making me think a lot about this is Brett Weinstein.
01:39:36.000But then there's other women who are just hot.
01:39:39.000And in males, that very receptive woman who doesn't require any commitment was an opportunity for men to spread their seed with someone who they didn't have to be around for.
01:39:51.000Yeah, so there's literally like a programming in a man's mind.
01:39:55.000So you see a girl with big giant tits and a little waist and a fat ass hanging out of her shorts and she's got sloppy makeup on and she looks at you and you're like, okay, let's do this.
01:40:08.000You're not saying, I would like to start a relationship with you.
01:40:11.000It's like, no, I want to shoot my load into you and then you raise my kid when I'm nowhere near you because it's an opportunity for my DNA to propagate.
01:40:34.000I told my girl, Joe, I told my girl, Joe, probably...
01:40:37.000Four weeks into it, five weeks where we're getting serious, and she got this job offer to go to Miami, and she was talking about career and stuff like that.
01:40:43.000And I went, no, that's all cool, and no one's career first more than me.
01:40:46.000However, you know you're put on the search to be a mom, right?
01:40:49.000Like, you're going to be such a beast of a mom.
01:40:51.000I guarantee you, because I saw her interact with Callen's kids.
01:40:54.000I can guarantee you, you might be the greatest host in the world, but you're going to be the best mom I've ever seen.
01:41:31.000Those kids may very well have that same kind of behavior towards their kids.
01:41:35.000Like when they become adults, it's a hard pattern to break.
01:41:39.000Sometimes you need the right person in your life.
01:41:41.000Like a good person in your life that you, you know, a wife or husband or whoever it is, you know, when you match up with that person, like it changes who you are too.
01:41:50.000That's what I always say that one of the most important things about community, like your community of friends, is that when you have good friends, those people change you.
01:42:01.000You react like everyone is your tribe.
01:42:04.000You react like everyone's your friends.
01:42:25.000And that community, even if it's a small community that you call a family, that piece is...
01:42:30.000Dependent upon who you do that piece with.
01:42:31.000You might be an amazing dad with the right woman, but with the wrong woman, you might be so frustrated with the relationship that you're not as good a dad as you are right now.
01:42:42.000There might be chaos going on all the time.
01:42:44.000There might be situations you put the kid in where you're yelling and screaming at each other that the kid shouldn't see.
01:42:48.000All these different factors that are dependent upon your relationship with this other person.
01:42:53.000And they change you, and you change them.
01:42:56.000Like, you might be the wrong person for them.
01:42:57.000They might be super cool and calm with someone else, but with you...
01:43:49.000I don't know what got us to this position, but whatever I did, please, I'll apologize.
01:43:54.000But I also feel like in this community of friends that we're talking about, if you were a shit father, it would show elsewhere in your life, like around us, or if we're at the comedy store, or a restaurant, or in your social media.
01:44:08.000It's going to come out one way or another, you know?
01:44:10.000And it'd be tough to be in that group.
01:44:12.000You know that expression, how you do one thing is how you do everything?
01:44:29.000And if you're a shitty friend, you're probably going to be a shitty dad.
01:44:31.000And I say this, too, with, like, with dudes who are shitty dads, it's like, all right, if you're willing to do that to your—literally, you're connected to this person chemically.
01:44:41.000They're made of your DNA. If you're willing to treat him like that, when the going gets rough for me, where the fuck are you going to be?
01:45:48.000My son was one and a half at the time, and I was taking him to this play area, and he didn't express himself, and everyone was older, and he'd hit kids.
01:46:13.000And they took me to the side and said, you know, we got a bit of a problem because Tiger is hitting kids and we think it's in direct correlation of you letting him watch fights.
01:46:23.000And from what you did, I just started laughing.
01:48:03.000It's so weird that people are just openly jumping into this and it's these weirdo, super, you know, ideological progressive people that just they're locked into this idea that it's amazing to have a trans kid.
01:48:16.000And, you know, the kid shows any sign whatsoever of being inclining to be female or inclined to be male that they're pushing it.
01:48:23.000I feel like it's exceptionally bad out here.
01:48:26.000Well, it's also very dangerous because they start wanting to fuck with the kid's hormones.
01:48:30.000Like, you've got to let the child develop.
01:48:32.000There's no real science in what the fuck happens when you put hormone blockers into a three-year-old and try to transition them into a girl.
01:48:38.000But also, the real doctors who know what the hell they're doing, they're not going to inject that kid with hormones.
01:48:43.000They're going to say, listen, if you want to do this, when you're 18, 19, even then it's a little too early.
01:48:49.000When you're 21, which again is too early, and I've seen this on some of the bullshit reality TV shows I watch, but these legit doctors go, then I'm willing to help you out.
01:49:30.000You change when hormones get entered into your body, and maybe you won't be the most masculine man in the world, and maybe you will turn into a woman someday.
01:50:07.000If she was just a girl, and she wasn't, like, trying to transition into a man, and they found out that she was winning the state championship as a woman, or as a girl, rather, by taking steroids, they would take it away from her.
01:51:00.000If it was the other way, it would be more fair.
01:51:02.000Because, like, if you're a man, and you're transitioning to be a woman, and they make you wrestle men, well, you're going to be at a disadvantage because you're taking hormone blockers, or you're getting castrated, you're losing your testicles, whatever it is, you are at a disadvantage.
01:52:13.000There was a guy who was ready for this, 50 years old, he was six foot four or five, played women's college basketball because he played as a man, but now he's not a man anymore.
01:52:30.000If you're a fool, and you're 50 years old, and you're pretending to be a college girl, and you're like, I'm in a fantasy world, this is my fantasy, and she's a giant, and she's swatting basketballs out of people's hands.
01:53:41.000It's like if Shaquille O'Neal was playing on that other team, if Shaquille O'Neal transitioned to be a woman and decided to go back to college, this college would let her play as a woman.
01:56:23.000But however, with this lady, let's say they stopped at two in the morning, she's in a car, and the dad, the dad, who, you know, she came from his seed, goes, listen, she's going to do something bad.
01:57:15.000Like Tony Hinchcliffe or all these dudes that have been in the grind.
01:57:19.000I did open mics a long time ago, but they're fucking crazy people.
01:57:25.000There's a certain amount of open micers who think that they're really funny, and they can't get work, and they're angry about it, and they're really fucking crazy people.
01:57:32.000I get on Kill Tony when I've been on it like two or three times.
01:58:48.000Like, you're going to have a 50-year-old black guy that's the smartest guy you ever met in your life, and you're going to have a 50-year-old white guy who is a fucking moron...
01:58:57.000And you're going to have a 50-year-old woman who's out of her fucking mind, and you're going to have a 50-year-old woman who's a brilliant physicist, and you're going to have everything.
01:59:06.000You're going to have every combination.
01:59:08.000Every combination of smart and stupid and tall and thin.
01:59:12.000People vary, but they also vary with how crazy they are.
01:59:17.000But also, I think some people are crazy, and then they find a passion, they run with it, maybe it's music, comedy, but then some of those crazy people who are different than the others in high school get made fun of, get bullied, and then that craziness turns into darkness,
01:59:58.000And every single mass shooter's on medications.
02:00:01.000But when you look at the combination of all the different factors, it's like, when you see that lady crying in her car at 2 o'clock in the morning, you're a cop, you don't know what to do.
02:00:38.000These random shooters, I don't know what you're going to do.
02:00:42.000The only thing with the YouTube thing is if the dad goes, listen, my daughter is going to do something crazy, and they find her near the YouTube Northern California offices, we should at least take her in for the night, talk to her, and that's the least...
02:03:10.000But if they do a rematch, which they should give Ioana the immediate rematch, Rose will be in a little bit of trouble, because Ioana is a fucking machine.
02:03:18.000When I see Joanna do interviews and she goes, it was my nutritionist, it was this person, it was this, it was this.
02:03:24.000Never once has she owned it and taken credibility.
02:03:27.000I go, that's not the way a world champion speaks.
02:03:30.000That's not the way at all someone talks.
02:03:32.000And when I see a bunch of excuses, I go, oh shit, you have a hole in your boat, and you're masking it with duct tape, and you're trying to get back to this point.
02:06:36.000But it's also one of those things where with Rose coming into this fight now and Ioana making excuses for the last fight, I'm really interested to see what happens when they square off.
02:07:03.000When you talk a gang of shit at someone, and they just stare right through you, and then they murk you in the first round, it's very tough to talk that shit the second time.
02:07:14.000I think that's a sign, if Joanna isn't respecting Rose again, if she gets up there and starts talking that shit, I would put a ton of money on Rose.
02:08:31.000I think what else is fascinating about this, not that fight, I'm almost more excited for that fight than anything now, but what's fascinating to me is everyone talks about Conor McGregor, right?
02:08:41.000Especially when you're talking about 155. And with Conor and Max Holloway, Conor's never looked back and went, ah, I'll fight that guy back even though I'm better.
02:08:48.000The thing that gets Conor out of bed, I think, is the challenge and making history.
02:08:53.000I think if Khabib or Max were to win, that would be a new challenge and he would be an underdog against Khabib.
02:08:59.000And when Max Holloway, they have to have a history at 55. Especially if Khabib were to win, I think we see Conor take that fight now.
02:09:05.000Because he goes, that's pound for pound great.
02:09:07.000Well, I'm the best at moving backwards hitting dudes.
02:10:26.000Now your entire family and friends are going to see how much of a pussy you are as they bash your brains in round after round after round after round.
02:11:44.000You know, if I can make a super fight, if I was like Dana, Scrooge McDuck, just sitting on top of all these gold coins, I'd call it Ben Askren.
02:11:50.000I'm like, Yo, any interest in fighting Khabib at 170?
02:12:22.000I think you give Ben Askren a guy who's a good fighter.
02:12:26.000GSP. Well, yeah, but seeing it, most people don't know who Ben Askren is.
02:12:30.000The problem is, he fought in Bellator for so long, and then even when Bellator's gotten bigger on Spike TV, he was off in 1FC. Which, yeah, no one saw.
02:12:39.000We are huge Ben Askren fans, but we're hardcore.
02:12:42.000Like, the casual fan has no idea, like, who's this guy with the curly hair they're sending to his death?
02:12:49.000But we can sell it because he speaks well.
02:13:19.000I think his grappling is very unusual, very difficult to prepare for.
02:13:22.000And if you're going to deal with Khabib against a guy who can neutralize his stuff, and then we see, like, what if we see Khabib on his back?
02:13:30.000Ben Askren fucking put a knee across the belly, punching Khabib in the face.
02:21:04.000I bet his friends are like, remember that time you got murked by Roger Huerta?
02:21:09.000He's tiny, fought 155 pounds, and your giant ass is all juiced up in the goddamn weight room every day, and you still got knocked out for hitting a girl?
02:25:59.000He was concentrating on his neck, if you hear him talk about it, that he'd put all his focus on his neck and let his hands go, and he's just tightening it up.
02:26:06.000Oh yeah, you have Kevin Lee who's a fucking anaconda around your neck and has previous wins of rear naked chokes.
02:30:27.000If they had a master's league and you could only use your left jab, that's what it's like in the UFC. It's a fucking nightmare, you sons of bitches.
02:33:12.000Like knees to the body, elbows to the face.
02:33:14.000All those super effective, close range techniques that glory doesn't allow.
02:33:18.000But I think they're worried about with the elbows, guys aren't going to be able to fight close together because of the elbows because of the cuts.
02:33:23.000However, I'd rather deal with that than not allow elbows.
02:33:26.000Well, I don't like the guys fighting close together.
02:33:44.000You're hoping that someone doesn't get severely concussed even in a win in their first fight and then come back and fight in the second fight.
02:33:57.000They are cutting massive weight, but they're not getting head kicked.
02:33:59.000Getting head kicked in the first round and getting up at the count of seven and then fighting and then getting head kicked again an hour later.
02:34:49.000And people are probably going to die because you guys are so good now, but it's what you sign up for.
02:34:53.000Well, the problem is if one guy goes through three rounds of hell and the other guy just lands like a Conor straight left hand they did on Aldo and wins in 13 seconds, it's just not fair.
02:35:51.000The judge, and we've talked about this before, and that's why I was so intrigued about the Tony Ferguson fight.
02:35:56.000And this is why I did stand-up at the San Jose Improv.
02:36:01.000And in the front row, and I didn't know they were going to be there, was all of Team AK. John Fitch, Thompson, stuff like that.
02:36:08.000And after the show, someone in front of them asked me, This is before Ferguson dropped.
02:36:12.000I went, Ferguson, Khabib, who's going to win?
02:36:14.000And it was a toss-up for me because I thought Tony was going to do work off his back.
02:36:19.000He was going to land a crazy amount of elbows and fuck up Khabib's face.
02:36:23.000But because Khabib was on top, he'd get the win via decision.
02:36:26.000And I said the losers are going to be the judges because they won't know how to judge that fight.
02:36:31.000And saying that in front of the AK team was awkward.
02:36:34.000Depends upon how it plays out, but if it plays out the way you described it, yeah.
02:36:38.000If Tony is landing big shots from the bottom...
02:36:41.000Submission threats, elbows, his face getting bloody, but Khabib's doing work on top, but Tony's still threatening elbows, elbows, just fucking him up.
02:36:48.000It's possible, but if Khabib mauls him, it should be real clear.
02:36:52.000We don't even know if we're ever going to see that now.
02:38:51.000How much, and if you know, please say it for everyone, how much you think they paid Max Holloway to take this fight?
02:38:56.000Six day notice and they go, bro, we know you're champ at 145. Here's the offer.
02:39:02.000There's no way we're just giving you this much.
02:39:04.000All I know is what Eddie told me on the podcast about Tony.
02:39:07.000He said he was going to make millions.
02:39:11.000So, if that's what we know, we've got to assume there's a big paycheck in it for Max Holloway.
02:39:16.000I told Brian Gus how much you think he's going to pay, and I said, if I'm max, I don't take that fight for under $4 million.
02:39:22.000I know they're in a tough position, and they need a big name, and they're trying to recoup the pay-per-views, so I got them back in the corner.
02:40:33.000And it's a weight class above his weight class.
02:40:35.000It's Khabib, who's a huge 155. It's arguably the best grappler in the UFC. And the other problem is he really doesn't entertain the stand-up game, so your chance of the home run shot is even dropped even lower.
02:42:00.000But the thing for Max, too, if he had 12 weeks and he's in phenomenal shape and he gets taken down, all kind of Chad Mendes, Conor McGregor, when Conor got taken down, we're like, it's just a matter of time.
02:42:33.000So we were talking before, let's wrap this up, but before talking before this, we want to do a fight companion, but there's no fights that we're all around for a fight companion.
02:42:39.000So let's do a fight companion, get all the boys in here, and put on some fights.
02:42:45.000Doing a random night or something like that.
02:42:46.000Yeah, a random, like a fucking Tuesday or some shit.