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00:03:52.000And at first, it's funny because at first, so I would do like the karate tournaments and so there's point sparring and then there's the katas.
00:04:18.000So yeah, I competed karate from 10 all the way up until I was 18. So I did a lot of the flashy, extreme martial arts katas with the flips and stuff like that.
00:04:32.000But I always came back to sparring because I wasn't good at it.
00:04:58.000Did you go from that to kickboxing or did you go right into MMA? When did you start training MMA? So I did karate and then I got my black belt in karate.
00:05:14.000And then so I think around 18 or 19 I was kind of just exploring doing a couple different things.
00:05:20.000So I did wushu for a couple of years and I competed in wushu.
00:05:23.000And then I did a little bit of campo and then kind of dabbled a little bit into kickboxing.
00:05:32.000And, uh, so, it all kind of just happened pretty strangely.
00:05:37.000I was in college, I was working at Hooters, and I was doing all these, like, little side jobs, um, like, doing photo shoots for this and that, and, um, I was a ring girl for an MMA show.
00:05:50.000I had never seen MMA. And I remember just walking around the cage and thinking, man, I want to be like on the inside.
00:07:25.000I would imagine that someone growing up Doing martial arts as long as you did, the thrill of using your body and moving around, it's so important.
00:07:35.000Once you do that and you compete and it becomes a part of you, the idea of sitting in a classroom all day and then eventually sitting in a job all day was probably not that compelling.
00:09:31.000I would work on the weekends and then drive up to Vail and train my grappling and all of it, like all of the MMA. So you basically trained MMA together?
00:09:44.000Like you didn't take specific grappling classes, but I would imagine that that was the thing that you needed to concentrate on the most, right?
00:09:51.000Yeah, and I figured, okay, my pro did, or it was supposed to be amateur, but the girl that I was supposed to fight fell through.
00:10:01.000And the only girl that they had available was already pro.
00:13:10.000I mean, I understand it's this machine and it has to work and they're trying, but it's just, especially for a fighter whose life depends on the fights and your livelihood depends on that and for you just to be out, it's stressful enough to only fight a couple times a year because you have to divvy up that purse money throughout those times.
00:14:59.000She lost the decision, but she gained a lot of fans because she didn't have any pro Muay Thai fights.
00:15:03.000And she fought a woman who, like, she couldn't get a fight for almost three years because girls were ducking her because they didn't want to fight her.
00:17:48.000Because, I mean, if he's getting knocked out by that, I'm wondering if maybe he should be walking around lighter or if, I don't know, because he's pretty lean already.
00:17:57.000He's lean, but that fight played out realistically.
00:18:03.000Not that it's better for him or worse for him, but Sage is a young guy.
00:20:36.000Landing on her neck like that was terrifying.
00:20:38.000That's what scared me, just because we were in Brazil, too, and that crowd was crazy.
00:20:43.000And everybody shot up and started screaming, and Rose was just laid out on the canvas, and I kind of was just wanting her corner to be in there with her, because she was just all alone about herself.
00:20:55.000And I was worried that she wasn't going to get up.
00:20:57.000I was like, hey, you guys wait to cheer until we see she's okay, because that can...
00:23:13.000See, he tucks his head a little bit at the last second so he doesn't catch it on the top of the head, but all of his weight, all of Bob Sapp's weight, look at that.
00:24:20.000I mean, look, he beat Ernesto Hus twice in kickboxing matches.
00:24:25.000But it also goes to show you how hard Cro Cop punches, because Cro Cop flattened him with one punch.
00:24:31.000Cro Cop broke his orbital bone with a straight left.
00:24:35.000So Minotauro eventually gets him on his back, and then once he gets him on his back, because Bob Sapp, you can only keep 375 pounds going for so long.
00:24:45.000I mean, he's just completely exhausted.
00:30:03.000Transgender people and super progressive activists who have no idea how sports work.
00:30:09.000Those are the people, the people that just want inclusiveness, and they just want everyone to be okay, and maybe this is the world I'm looking for.
00:30:17.000I'm looking towards a world where everyone's included.
00:30:45.000But for leagues to recognize that this is the same thing, how would you feel if all of the UFC's weight classes in the women's division were dominated by transgender women?
00:31:19.000I mean, I guess for me, I've always been, especially like being a female in a male dominant sport, I've always, I guess if I can like to consider myself a feminist, not so much a feminist, but like when I go into the gym,
00:32:42.000And athletes recognize it and rational people recognize it, but there's so much pushback from progressive people who, it's like, what percentage of the population are we even talking about here?
00:33:18.000It has to be something deeper where they, you know, and to me I think it goes back to like that mental, like a mental block where you need some, like a false sense of confidence.
00:33:38.000Where the fuck did you get those hands?
00:33:41.000It's really like the ultimate form of sandbagging.
00:33:43.000I mean, for folks who don't know what sandbagging is, oh, I was going to bring up smokers, too, for folks who don't know what smokers is, if you listen to this podcast.
00:33:49.000A smoker is small amateur fights that they have in gyms or little arenas or high school gyms and stuff like that.
00:33:55.000But, um, uh, sandbagging is like, say if Michelle had a black belt in jujitsu and then entered into a judo tournament as a white belt and then just fucking flying armbar to everybody.
00:34:11.000They'll be like, what the hell is this?
00:35:20.000Well, you think it's because people like to see the mismatch and maybe like that underdog story where the person that is, you know, the underdog comes and becomes victorious?
00:36:29.000Because I know that's kind of one of the concerns for some of the athletes that, yeah, it might be really strict here in the States, but in other states, is it as strict?
00:36:38.000Right, because it is U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.
00:38:20.000Like, back when they used to have those silly drug tests where they would test you at the weigh-ins, which is basically like an intelligence test.
00:39:10.000Even if you're taking creatine, and that creatine is tainted, which is a lot of what these guys, Tim Means, that was his deal, he was taking a supplement that was tainted.
00:39:20.000Quite a few guys have legitimately just taken over-the-counter supplements that they thought were clean, and they got something, just some tiny, that doesn't have any effect on their performance.
00:39:52.000And then all these fucking people online are ranting and raving about picograms and this and the science experts and they think it's all bullshit that John's allowed to fight.
00:42:19.000I feel like with Anderson Silva, he did that a lot with his movement, with his head movement, with his variety of punches and kicks and the angles at which they came in from.
00:42:33.000I feel like Ronda did that with her judo.
00:42:35.000I feel like Machida did that with his karate.
00:42:40.000I can go down the list of everybody, but I feel like it kind of goes in cycles.
00:42:47.000It's great for me because I can watch them and I can implement new things.
00:42:50.000I feel like that's why I've been able to be in the game for so long and still continue to grow and evolve because I get to watch other people.
00:43:00.000And the things that they do and add that to my tool list.
00:43:04.000Yeah, it changes the expectation of what's possible, right?
00:43:07.000I think with Mighty Mouse, that was one of the best examples of that.
00:43:11.000Because when I would watch Mighty Mouse fight, I would be like, show me someone who's better.
00:43:15.000Show me someone who's ever been better than this guy.
00:43:18.000Like, I've never seen anybody move better than this guy.
00:44:43.000What's interesting, too, about this sport is that it's one of the only sports where you can go back from 1993 to 2019 and you could see massive evolution.
00:45:48.000Because if you think you've got to read on his timing, and then all of a sudden you're looking at a right jab instead of a left jab now, like, Maybe it's just that I watch MMA and are more focused on MMA than I am in boxing.
00:46:01.000But from having my husband help me out and all this stuff, that's what he's saying is going to be the biggest evolution or what has started to evolve in boxing is that they are realizing, okay, you can use both sides now and that's going to trick them even more.
00:46:18.000Well, Marvin Hagler was amazing at that.
00:46:20.000It was one of Marvin Hagler's best skills, that he could fight southpaw as well as he could fight orthodox.
00:46:25.000Hagler was one of the greatest fighters of all time, and he was a champion in the 80s.
00:47:03.000And if I can put together my punches, we'll be okay, ready to get that belt.
00:47:10.000Karate is an interesting martial art too that you are really good at because you have an excellent ability to use that front leg that most people don't have.
00:47:20.000You have an awesome front leg side kick, a great front leg roundhouse kick.
00:47:23.000And when you do that, I see that in your fight sometimes.
00:47:25.000People are like, oh, I've got to adjust to this.
00:47:28.000It's like a jab, but a jab that can fuck you up, like a jab that can knock you out.
00:47:33.000Yeah, I think, I mean, I guess I owe that to my point firing days when everybody was bigger than me.
00:47:39.000It didn't matter because it was by belts.
00:48:07.000Winklejohn, he was an excellent fighter, a really good kickboxer, and really good at both styles too, like leg kick style, but also good at like he had karate techniques as well.
00:48:18.000He was very good at those transitions between those straight kicks and punches.
00:48:25.000You know, that's the thing where a lot of people get confused.
00:48:28.000It's like a no man's land between kicking and punching with people who are kicking specialists.
00:48:33.000And you see it like even with elite fighters like Raymond Daniels as he's coming up in his kickboxing career.
00:48:39.000It took a while before he could make that smooth transition between kicking and punching because Raymond would be on the outside and he was...
00:48:47.000A world class, top of the food chain karate point fighter.
00:49:50.000Now, when you say you're working boxing, are you just sparring boxing and hitting pads boxing, or are you trying to implement that into MMA training?
00:50:27.000Oh, I'm in this position, there goes the knee.
00:50:28.000I'm in this position, now I'm throwing a punch.
00:50:30.000When you see someone going, I've got to do this, I've got to think.
00:50:35.000Those transitions, when you're in higher pressure situations, that's when those transitions are the most awkward.
00:50:45.000When you don't have a conditioned response.
00:50:47.000Yeah, and I think that's the biggest thing that I've really been able to work on is the blending of all of it.
00:50:56.000I feel like so much of us, so many of us, we train specific boxing, specific kickboxing, jiu-jitsu, wrestling, whatever, but we never really blend it together.
00:51:06.000And I think that's the most important part.
00:51:31.000Because otherwise people are just going to settle in and never worry about your takedowns, and then they have an extra degree of comfort with their striking, and you can get caught with stuff you wouldn't get caught with otherwise.
00:52:47.000It was just like, you know how sometimes when you're in a fight, you have like a million thoughts that go through your mind in a split second.
00:52:56.000Yeah, and at her own game, which is stupid because it's MMA. So I stood in front of her and then she cracked me and I saw stars and I stood in front of her and I didn't take her down and I was trying to exchange with her and she cracked me again.
00:53:10.000And I was waiting for her to stop so it could be my turn.
00:57:19.000But everybody is going to cut down to 115, and then you're probably going to go back up to when you fight, when you get into the cage, what do you think you weigh?
00:57:26.000This last time I got back up to 128. Yeah, see, that's what you really weigh.
00:57:31.000Why is everybody saying she's fighting at 115?
00:57:33.000She's not fighting at 115. When you say Tyron Woodley fights at 170, no he doesn't.
00:57:38.000No, he weighs 170. Kamaru Usman, he's not 170. He weighs 170 for a very small time.
00:57:49.000Maybe it's just kind of like the old school mentality or just the idea of that being the last challenge that you go through before you step into the octagon that I enjoy.
00:58:01.000And not that I enjoy it, but again, we're going back to challenges and it's like one of those things like, alright, take yourself to this point and if you can get through that without breaking, then me and you can go to battle.
00:59:39.000I was talking to one of the doctors about it in my last fight because he was like, so strange that you go through all of this just to be the same weight the next day.
01:00:58.000If you can do it and you pull it off, especially if you're young and you figure out how to do it correctly and replenish your electrolytes, it is an advantage.
01:01:35.000She struggles for 115. But then you've got Valentina.
01:01:39.000It's like, I think that weight class, it's really interesting, right?
01:01:45.000When you're talking about weight classes, if you're talking about the difference between 105 pounds and 115 pounds, it might only be 10 pounds, but it's a giant percentage of your body weight.
01:03:06.000EPO is a scary one because the person has more gas in their tank to beat you.
01:03:12.000They can hit you, they can take shots better, they can recover better, and then they can come after you and then they'll have more gas in the tank than maybe they can put you away.
01:03:21.000I'd rather fight somebody that was heavier than me and depleted from cutting water weight than somebody that was taking steroids or EPOs.
01:03:31.000For women, there's a real argument that once someone has ever taken steroids, that you've altered your chemistry enough and your physiology enough that you're forever going to have some sort of an advantage.
01:03:43.000So then there's nothing you can do about that.
01:03:46.000Maybe deduct a point before you even get in the octagon?
01:05:24.000So you have to have a good set of skills before you get there in order to kind of hold your own.
01:05:29.000We do actually have an amateur team right now that...
01:05:35.000It's run by Joey Vissenior and he's done an amazing job with the amateur team.
01:05:40.000We've kind of been able to separate the classes in that sense where Joey is kind of overseeing all of the amateur fighters and he's building these amateur fighters and when he feels like they're ready to come Some.
01:06:19.000It's crazy if you ever, like, go into the gym and see, like, um, when you see, like, amateurs or people that have, like, zero training spar versus, like, professional fighter spar.
01:06:35.000I would not want to be in that, in, like, the cage with some of those people that, like, because you just don't know where the punches or kicks are coming from.
01:07:09.000I can't wait to, you know, to get my black belt in jujitsu.
01:07:13.000And I think it's kind of brought me back to my more traditional background where, you know, there's a little bit more structure when it comes to that.
01:07:33.000I try to force myself outside of my comfort zone because I am so used to grabbing wrists, grabbing shoulders, and, you know, right at the crick of the elbows and stuff like that.
01:07:42.000And I find myself going for those grips because that's just what I've done for the last decade.
01:07:49.000Because I am stepping into their world, I want to learn the grips, and I want to learn all of that stuff.
01:07:57.000Yeah, I mean, it's great if you want to compete in jiu-jitsu with a gi.
01:08:01.000But I think for MMA, I think the best...
01:08:06.000The benefit of jujitsu with a gi for MMA is defensive for submissions because you get caught in things you can't power out of them because it's not slippery.
01:08:25.000And I'm just out, but I can't do that in gi.
01:08:28.000So what I'll do a lot of times is I'll go train gi, and I'll do the technique class, and then when it's time to go do live rolling, I just take my gi off, and then I go, no gi.
01:08:39.000So that way everything you're doing is applicable in MMA, because one of the things we used to see in the early days of MMA, you see these gi world champions, like elite level world champions, and they'd fight in MMA, and they lost all of their technique.
01:08:53.000Because everything was collars and sleeves and pants and everything was grabbing things.
01:08:59.000Whereas instead of, now they try to go to cable grips or overhooks and underhooks and they're all confused.
01:09:11.000Like my professor now, he, so I'll be rolling with his wife or some of his students and Like, it's weird because they're getting me ready for my fights, but I'm also getting them ready for Worlds and stuff like that.
01:09:25.000So depending on who's getting who ready is what he'll call out if we're going.
01:09:29.000And I'm, you know, I'm sitting in their guard.
01:09:33.000He'll tell them that they have to get active.
01:09:35.000They're like, he'll straight up say, if she was fighting, you should just be punching the face.
01:09:53.000That's interesting because it shows you where there are these gaps where like, hey, this is an MMA, but if it was, you'd be getting pounded on right here.
01:10:26.000Yeah, that's what I do in the mornings at the gym.
01:10:29.000So who sets up, like, when you're in camp, when you have to do, you know, you've got a fight, it's 12 weeks from now, who sets up your schedule?
01:10:39.000I think what we do is we get a fight scheduled and then we get all the coaches in together.
01:10:46.000And so my jiu-jitsu coach, I go to Gracie Baja for jiu-jitsu.
01:10:49.000So jiu-jitsu, wrestling, you know, Coach Jackson, Coach Wingo John, Joey Villasenor, and my husband.
01:10:57.000And my husband's with me all the time, so he kind of oversees everything.
01:11:01.000And we just sit down and we talk about all the things we need to get together.
01:11:05.000I do one private with Coach Jackson a week.
01:11:08.000I do two privates with Coach Wink a week.
01:11:10.000I do a private with Coach Villasenor, and then I do all those in the morning.
01:11:14.000And then I work out at my house as well, and then I do jujitsu.
01:15:45.000But it's crazy too because we all have our own separate journeys and I feel like when you first start fighting, just like when you're a kid and you jump off of things and you're fearless because you don't know what it feels like to get hurt and then you break your leg and then you're like,
01:17:23.000What goes into that 15 minutes of a fight that nobody even knows?
01:17:29.000Not just 8 weeks, but your entire training before that.
01:17:35.000For me, I've been doing martial arts since I was 10 and fighting professionally for over 10 years.
01:17:43.000So it's an accumulation of all of those things, but each fight presents its own problem, and if you're not mentally prepared for it, if you're not prepared physically, if you're not prepared spiritually, emotionally, hormonally,
01:18:02.000Everything has to line up that one night, those 15 minutes or 25 minutes in order for you to win and you can definitely beat yourself before you step into the octagon.
01:18:13.000So what kind of stuff do you work on with your psychologist without giving too much away?
01:18:19.000I talked to him about this all the time because it's like my secret sauce, right?
01:18:22.000But how he explains this is everybody knows what you're supposed to do, but you have to put in the work.
01:18:28.000Just like physically you have to put in the work.
01:18:30.000Like I can sit up here and I can tell you what I do, but it's not going to make a difference unless you actually put in the work to strengthen your mind mentally.
01:20:39.000So when I say one word, it feeds into an entire feeling, if that makes any sense.
01:20:47.000And so instead of having to have a conversation in my mind, which takes way too long, I just say confidence, and it takes me where I need to be.
01:21:00.000And eventually, you shouldn't even have to do that.
01:21:04.000You should just be in the moment and just allow your mind to connect with your body.
01:23:35.000But a lot of times, like, when I meet up with Dr. Shandon, we meet up at noisy places like Starbucks or, you know, or at a coffee shop or something like that.
01:23:47.000And it's because that life is always going to have distractions.
01:23:53.000And you need to be able to focus with distractions, especially me.
01:23:57.000There's so many things going on in my life with being a mother and a wife that sometimes I can use the distractions as an excuse to justify why I'm not getting things done or this or that.
01:24:09.000And so that's something that I've really been working hard at is to not use those as excuses, but more so to allow the distractions to happen and choose to stay focused anyways.
01:24:26.000There's quite a few women's MMA fighters now, but it's still small in comparison to men.
01:24:32.000When you meet young girls that look up to you, do you recognize that you have a very critical and it's a very small role in terms of a small amount of people providing that role as role models?
01:24:51.000To young kids that are thinking about fighting when a young girl meets you, like, oh my god, it's the karate hottie.
01:26:28.000But yeah, I just remember being pregnant and being...
01:26:31.000Everybody talks about postpartum depression, but I was really depressed during my pregnancy.
01:26:37.000I mean, don't get me wrong, I loved being pregnant and there was a lot of memories that I had with her being in my belly and me feeling her and all of this.
01:26:47.000Those moments I treasure forever, but...
01:27:25.000There was just so much that I didn't know.
01:27:28.000And so I was really down then and I get a lot of moms that approach me and they tell me that because I went back and continued to pursue my dream that they did too.
01:27:46.000Now, when you say you had your first fight back 10 months, that's a really, for people that don't recognize, that's a very short amount of time to rebound from giving birth and then get yourself back in shape and then get yourself into fighting shape where you're like, I'm ready to take a fight and then train for the fight.
01:28:04.000I mean, that is an incredible process to go through in 10 months.
01:31:42.000She has a really cool upbringing, I think.
01:31:47.000She's surrounded by really cool people.
01:31:52.000She gets to meet the coolest people in the world, and they're normal to her.
01:31:56.000She sees John and Holly, and that's Auntie Holly to her.
01:32:02.000Her expectations for what she can be in life, I think, are way higher.
01:32:08.000And I think because she's surrounded by people like that, and that's why I like to keep her around because, you know, my dad used to always tell me that...
01:32:22.000We learn through our actions, our parents' actions.
01:32:25.000You walk the walk, you don't talk the talk.
01:32:28.000So I think the best teacher can be my actions.
01:32:33.000And for her to see it through her own eyes, I can tell her this, this, and this all day.
01:32:38.000But it's a different story when she comes to a fight with me and I'm the champion, the 105 champion, and I'm defending my belt.
01:32:47.000And I bust my eye open to the point where you can't see it anymore and I lose my belt.
01:32:55.000And for her to see that mommy's okay and that failure is a part of life and that I still love what I do and I'm going to still go after my set of dreams because failure is a part of your journey.
01:33:10.000That's an amazing lesson for a kid to learn.
01:33:12.000And to see that at a high level growing up with her mother on this giant stage in front of all these people in the crowd and television, that's amazing for her.
01:33:22.000Yeah, and because people ask me all the time, like, aren't you afraid that she's going to see you get hurt and this and that?
01:33:28.000But why would you want to shield them from that stuff?
01:35:18.000I need to finish out this story for my own sake and for, you know, millions of other parents out there that, you know, have a dream and don't give up on their dream just because they have children.
01:35:31.000It's a longer road, but it's worth it.
01:37:05.000When you're looking at that division, you have those two, Jessica Andrade, and we don't, again, we do not know where Rose's head is at, what she wants to do, but if she wanted to have a rematch, they probably would set that up.
01:37:18.000Then you have Ioana, you have Tatiana Suarez, who's a beast.
01:37:23.000You have you, you have, who else in the division stands out to you?
01:38:41.000If they're going to come to you and say, Hey...
01:38:43.000Michelle we'd like you to fight in July or August or September like when would they come to you?
01:38:49.000I just feel like With the way that the rankings are working, if I just take a fight outside of who is the current champ, I'm going to be in the same spot.
01:39:04.000I've won my last two fights and I've gone down in rankings.
01:39:09.000I really would like to hold off to fight the champion.
01:39:13.000Because I feel like any other fight is going to either take me down or keep me in the same spot.
01:39:21.000So, I don't know what they're planning on doing with Tatiana and Nina, but if they're trying to give them a shot before me, I feel like I want the winner of that and let me and them hash it out to fight for the belt.
01:39:35.000So that would be what you would do as a second choice.
01:39:39.000First choice is you want to fight for the belt.
01:42:36.000I feel like styles make fights and it was the perfect fight for Andraj to showcase her knockout power because KK is a pressure fighter and she instinctively will go forward and throw when she is in danger.
01:42:53.000And sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, you know?
01:44:57.000Well, it's so hard after the fact to try to figure out what went wrong and why it went wrong, what was going on in her head, but clearly it was not lacing up the legs when she was attacking the Kimura.
01:47:03.000She's not as hesitant to go to the ground.
01:47:06.000I feel like if the situation allowed it, she would go to the ground and even get a submission on Andrade.
01:47:13.000Whereas with Ioana, she knows what she has to do to win and she'll be stubborn in that sense and do that for five minutes, for five rounds consistently.
01:47:53.000But I also feel like A big part of her getting the belt was to know that she could take down Ioana, the invincible.
01:48:03.000And then she did that and it was like, alright, well, now I know that I can.
01:48:07.000And it's kind of like, well, I've already accomplished what I wanted to accomplish.
01:48:12.000I don't know, maybe that's just me thinking out loud of what maybe she might be going through, what might be going on in her mind.
01:48:18.000Let's say if you fought Andrade and you beat her and you become the champion, would that take a significant amount of motivation away from you or would you have more motivation to defend it?
01:48:29.000So we talk about this too because that's been such a huge goal of mine is to be the champ.
01:48:36.000And I want to say two fights ago we started implementing...
01:48:44.000Visualizations of me being the champ and defending the belt and how that would look like.