In this episode of the podcast, we talk about ideas and how they come about, how to deal with them, and what to do with them once they pop into your head. We also talk about how to keep track of them and how to get them out of your head in the most efficient way possible, which is to write them down. We hope you enjoy this episode, and if you like it, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, and we'll read out your comments and thoughts in the next episode! Thank you so much for your support of this podcast, it means a lot to us and we can't wait to do more of these! If you like what you hear, please remember to SUBSCRIBE and tell a friend about this podcast! Timestamps: 3:00 - How do you deal with ideas? 4:20 - What do you do when you have a new idea? 5:30 - Where do you keep them? 6:15 - What happens when they come to you in your head? 7:10 - What are they like? 8:40 - When they come in the first place? 9:00- How do they stay there? 10:30- What do they grow? 11:15- What can you do with ideas 12:00 13:40- Where do they live? 15:30 16:15 17:40 18:00 Is there a good idea? 17: What are you going to do? 19:10 21:00 What kind of ideas you have? 22: How can you have them grow 23:20 24:00 Do they stay with you? 25:00 Can they stay here? 26:00 How can they stay in motion? 27:00 Are they like that? 29:00 Should you write them out? ? 32:00 They re good? 35:00 Does someone else have them in motion 30:00 Who do you need to have them 36: Is there something else? 33:00 Where are they grow ? 35:30 Can they have them out in a place they can they grow ? 35 + 36:00 Could they stay out of their head 37:30 Is there another place they re good enough? 40:00 And so on?
00:00:26.000I've got like an old-school Elvis microphone and like a 1950s-style chord into an old recorder, and I'm trying to use that a bit more because we were talking about Hunter S. Thompson.
00:00:35.000I like the idea of recording stuff as I'm moving, but it's a habit I'm not getting into right now.
00:00:40.000Well, I think recording anything, like when you have an idea, you go, God damn it, this is a good idea.
00:01:00.000Because I think when you're in the zone, like, you're driving, there's something about, like, you know how sometimes you could be, like, miles away, and you're like, how the fuck did I get here?
00:01:39.000It's very nice, but my best ideas come then and I have no way to record them.
00:01:42.000But I think it's because you're in that weird mind state.
00:01:44.000A lot of people also get the same thing when they walk.
00:01:48.000A lot of writers, what they like to do is they like to write, and then they like to go on walks and think about the writing.
00:01:54.000And the idea is that when you're on the walk, you just get left, right, left, getting a little bit of cardio in, going up hills, and all you're thinking about is you're breathing and you're moving, and those eyes just sort of bounce around the back and get washed.
00:02:31.000Mitch Hedberg had a funny joke about that he keeps a note, a notepad by his bed, because every now and then he'll have some sort of an idea that he needs to write down.
00:02:42.000Or if he don't have a notepad, I have to pretend it wasn't a good idea.
00:03:17.000And that what they're doing is just making their way, and the more you nourish them, the more they grow, the more you pay attention to them, the more they propagate your head with new ideas, and then you take action.
00:03:31.000On those ideas and it creates everything the world's ever seen that humans have created.
00:04:35.000Are you a subscriber to the idea that ideas are collective?
00:04:39.000So when you have an idea, that idea is available to other people in the world if they're tuned in to be able to collect that idea?
00:04:45.000I think it's entirely possible that a lot of people are thinking exactly the same way you think when you're thinking it.
00:04:51.000I think that there's a lot of fucking people thinking right now.
00:04:56.000And there's a lot of sharing information through podcasts and Twitter and Facebook and YouTube videos and all the different things that people are doing.
00:05:06.000And it's not outside the realm of possibility that we share some sort of common thread psychically.
00:05:16.000You know, that there's some connection that we have with each other.
00:05:19.000We know we like to be around each other, right?
00:05:39.000But those people that are like them Ted Kaczynski type dudes who just want to just move to the middle of nowhere and by themselves and be a fucking nomad.
00:06:46.000And good people, people that you enjoy being around, you feed off them in a very positive way and it's very fulfilling and addicting and you want to do what they do and you want to help each other and you all want to feed off of each other.
00:06:57.000You all want to have this powerful community where you love each other.
00:07:01.000And then there's people that are super negative, too.
00:07:04.000It's all about what kind of circles do you travel in.
00:07:09.000If you get fucked over as a child and you just get tossed into a bad circle really early on, that's one of the primary causes for life-sucking, right?
00:07:20.000You're a kid and you're born in a shit situation with abusive people, abusive neighborhood, danger, crime.
00:07:34.000Changes the way that you interact with people all the way through your life because of those early beliefs.
00:07:39.000It's crazy that so little is done to stop that.
00:07:44.000So little is done to mitigate that in terms of how much effort is put into trying to ensure that people are educated or somehow or another we...
00:07:58.000There's no real what to explain to someone what it's like to be a parent until you're a parent.
00:08:03.000You can talk about it until you're blue in the face.
00:08:05.000But if you're talking to crazy people, you're never going to know how good they are at it anyway.
00:08:09.000Like if you take someone who's like a crazy, abusive person, what words could you ever say to that person to stop them from being crazy or abusive?
00:08:18.000Is there a string of words that you can say where you could convey the way you feel about it in a way that would cause them to go, wow, I should probably stop being a piece of shit.
00:08:31.000It's those first six years is when you develop patterns that influence you for the rest of your life.
00:08:35.000It's like the programming that's embedded in you.
00:08:37.000And from that point on, all of the decisions you make, all of the relationships you develop...
00:08:43.000They're put through that filtration system of those first six years of your life.
00:08:47.000And, I mean, this is where psychedelics have helped me be able to go back and unpack some of that stuff and try and figure out what influenced me.
00:08:56.000And memories that you bury down that you don't remember for the rest of your life, they'll influence decision-making all the way through your life.
00:09:06.000And there's little memories, little pit stops.
00:09:11.000Like, they exist, no matter what you do.
00:09:15.000You'll be in the middle of doing something, you go back to some weird regret you have when you were 18, you go, ugh, what are you doing there?
00:09:22.000Do you ever have those moments now, though, where there's a moment where you stop and you think, that was a significant moment?
00:09:27.000Like, I've just experienced a significant moment in my life that's now going to change the way that I think moving forward.
00:09:33.000Like, you must have a lot of those conversations that you have.
00:09:35.000Yeah, sometimes in the conversations, yeah.
00:09:38.000But I feel like if you think like that, it's nice to think like that for a second, to take that in.
00:10:20.000In terms of the number of events that you see in your life that shape you and impact you in a way that make you reassess where you're at as a person and what life is like,
00:10:38.000If you don't have those, if you just have this flat plane of nothing happening, going to the same job, I think that's what makes people fucking go crazy, more than almost any other aspect of this life.
00:10:50.000It's just monotony and boredom and no thrills and no challenges and nothing makes you scared.
00:10:57.000Yeah, and I think it's difficult to see that when you're in it though, right?
00:11:01.000I think we're both fortunate enough to be in a place, and I was with a good friend yesterday, Tim Hendricks, getting tattooed, and we were having the same conversation.
00:11:08.000He's in a place where he's in control of his life.
00:11:12.000He's living in the place that he wants to live.
00:11:14.000He said he can walk his kids to school for the next 10 years.
00:11:17.000He works in the tattoo studio that he got his first professional tattoo in.
00:11:21.000He's living his dream, and he's got all these businesses that support what he's doing.
00:11:25.000And we're in a similar situation as well, and I can see other people around me now that are caught in that monotony, and they can't see it, and it's just so difficult to break that.
00:12:18.000See, I'd want someone ancient if I was looking for a life coach.
00:12:21.000I'd want someone that was, like, at least 90. At least 90. Yeah, someone with, like, a war-torn past and wrote poetry and climbed mountains.
00:12:36.000But it's just, most people that are doing that, this is no disrespect, because I think that some of them actually provide some legitimate fuel for They give people some words that could encourage them,
00:12:51.000and even though they've never really accomplished anything, they're not necessarily doing anything negative, because they're propagating good ideas.
00:12:58.000They're promoting healthy values and healthy ways to live life.
00:13:03.000But let's be honest, bitch, you ain't done shit.
00:13:28.000And when he talks to people and talks about discipline and establishing a core relationship between your squad and all the people you work with, you really believe it.
00:14:09.000I started using it towards the end of my career.
00:14:11.000It's something about your circadian cycle and you have breakfast in the time zone that you're leaving and then when you arrive in the next place you have breakfast at that same time and it kind of kicks you over and it works.
00:14:22.000But for some reason this time it killed me.
00:14:24.000And I'm laying in bed and it's freezing cold.
00:14:27.000South America, I just assumed it was going to be warm.
00:15:00.000So when I'm near a coast, I want to make the most of it.
00:15:02.000But I had no warm training clothes, so I'm out there running.
00:15:06.000And the reason I was out there running and my lungs felt like they were bleeding was because you put an Instagram post up saying something about not being lazy.
00:15:37.000You know, like when Goggins makes a post or when Jocko makes a post or my friend Cam Haynes makes a post, I read those posts and I fucking want to get going.
00:15:46.000I want to get going because I know they're getting after it.
00:15:48.000It sounds so, like for people who are not into exercise, for people who think that we're macho assholes, this is like an excellent place where you would criticize.
00:16:39.000It's the grand exposure of who you are, and it only comes during extreme duress.
00:16:45.000It only comes when you're doing something that's hard as fuck, whether it's rolling jiu-jitsu or running hills or doing yoga.
00:16:52.000It comes in those moments where you want to fucking quit.
00:16:55.000Yeah, it's been a while since I've been in California and I was actually reminiscing on some of those late night legends sessions back in the day.
00:17:03.000I even took a drive past the place and I just, it's empty, there's nothing there now, but I took a drive past it and I remember, like we were in there till like 10.30, 11 o'clock at night, the windows steamed up and Yeah.
00:20:38.000But you know what's really interesting about Vitor is people think of him as a kicker.
00:20:42.000But he really didn't start kicking until later in his career.
00:20:45.000You know, it's kind of crazy when you think that he knocked out Dan Henderson with a kick, Luke Rockhold with a kick, Michael Bisping with a kick.
00:20:53.000He knocked these guys out with head kicks.
00:24:14.000The thing is, like, the gloves, it doesn't help anyone other than the person who's throwing their punches because it protects your hand.
00:24:21.000But it gives you an unrealistic expectation of what you can do with your hands because they're all padded up.
00:24:26.000But I still think people, you know, the people that are fighting Bare Knuckle right now have got an unrealistic perspective of what boxing is with no gloves.
00:24:35.000If you look back to any of the old photos or drawings of the old bare knuckle boxers, their stance was so much different.
00:24:42.000They leaned back, their knuckles were curled in, and they were hitting with the front two knuckles with a back fist.
00:24:48.000I think if bare knuckle boxing had started around the same time as the UFC started...
00:24:54.000It would develop and it would look very different right now.
00:24:57.000Everybody's standing like boxers, like they've got 14-ounce gloves on when they're sparring.
00:25:01.000And they're throwing punches like they've got gloves on.
00:25:05.000They've not made that adjustment yet to lean back and start using that lead hand better.
00:25:09.000So do you think that you're going to see that in this bare knuckle boxing guys?
00:25:12.000They're going to develop like that old-timey style?
00:25:15.000And start jabbing with those strong, for folks who don't know, the strong two knuckles are the ones that are right next to your index finger and your fuck you finger.
00:25:43.000On his right hand, it was like where a knuckle would be and another knuckle would be.
00:25:49.000All of it was covered by this thick callus.
00:25:53.000Have you ever seen, like, when dudes have those knuckles from breaking boards and bricks and shit?
00:25:58.000I've seen the callous knuckles, but I've never seen one combined.
00:26:02.000Jamie, see if you can find a photo of this, because I've seen it on other martial artists before, but you have to be one hardcore motherfucker to turn your hand into a hammer.
00:26:11.000One of my party tricks is my shins, though.
00:26:25.000But it's like the bone collapses down on itself.
00:26:28.000And then you get, like, this thick chunk of bone right at the front of the shin.
00:26:33.000So it's a different kind of bone, like a calcified bone?
00:26:37.000The way it was explained to me is that if you take a cross-section of the bone, it looks like ladders stacked up next to each other.
00:26:43.000And what you do is you collapse the rungs on the front set of ladders, and that collapses down in itself, and those two pieces calcify, and then that becomes a thicker outer wall, and then you do the same thing.
00:27:33.000The same thing apparently is the process that happens with cauliflower ear.
00:27:37.000is calcification because when you get internal bleeding as it's been explained to me remember I am a moron and I'm definitely not a doctor but it was explained to me that when you have blood inside the tissue that that blood can calcify and that's why your your ears when they get cauliflower they're so fucking hard because literally it's like a rock in there damn I used to just get it out I used to stuff some insulin needles good for you good for you Yeah,
00:28:31.000I have like little tiny pieces, chunks of little hard stuff, you know, places where I had like a little bit of cauliflower, but I always wore ear guards.
00:30:07.000And he really, genuinely cares to reach out to people and tell them that if you are going through depression, if you're dealing with and suffering from mental illness, talk about it and get help.
00:30:17.000Because I almost killed myself and now here I am, champ of the world, feeling great.
00:32:00.000You know, that guy just stays under the radar and just kicks ass.
00:32:04.000I'd like to see a couple of young fighters go to his gym, because he's, like, the old guard are kind of leaving now, like Bisping and Cyborg.
00:32:11.000I'm not sure what she's going to do now.
00:32:13.000Well, I think people are going to, you know, up and coming people that are in that area for sure are going to go.
00:32:19.000It's one of those things where it's like, there's so many great trainers now that for fighters, it's like, where do you want to live?
00:33:35.000That seems to be like an essential part of the learning process.
00:33:38.000Maybe in their mind they know what happened and they don't want to experience the bad feeling again and what they're just going to do is just get through this, learn and improve.
00:33:47.000That they don't need to see themselves getting left hooked.
00:34:12.000Like, how much is it going to help Ben Askren to see Jorge Masvidal land that knee on him?
00:34:18.000Yeah, I mean, well, the thing is with that, that was, I'm not saying it was a less technical circumstance, but it was one of those kind of wild circumstances which, I mean, the only thing that he could have learned from it is the fact that Masvidal had probably figured out that he shoots with his head to that side.
00:35:52.000You're in front of millions of people putting basically your health on the line.
00:35:58.000So I think having a sense of humour has always helped.
00:36:00.000And I think also now being able to look back from where I am now and look at my career and go, well, I had 10 fights in the UFC. I went four up, title fight, four down, and then I pulled it back for two.
00:37:00.000And then I looked at Condit and this is where my ego took over and I looked at him and I thought to myself, he's not going to do anything to me.
00:37:07.000He's awkward, he's slow, he's striking sucks, he's very predictable, he's not getting any punching power, he won't be able to take me down.
00:37:14.000This was the whole conversation I was having in my head going into the fight.
00:37:17.000There was no way he was going to beat me.
00:37:21.000That was a good turning point for me because that put me back on the track where I should have been and I'd already started to veer off after the GSP fight because the rides have been so quick, four fights.
00:37:33.000Because I experienced that, it's nice for me to be able to I try not to talk about it, but to relate my experiences when I'm watching other fighters coming up.
00:37:42.000I can put myself in their shoes because I've probably experienced something of where they're at.
00:38:07.000It's a lot of fun, but I think it's best expressed by former fighters because they can do everything that I can do, which most of them can.
00:38:14.000The big thing that's missing with me is not having fought in the UFC, where they can relay that.
00:38:52.000I think the UFC had decided that they wanted to use their former fighters more and sort of give them a career option after fighting, which, you know, we look like Rashad Evans, he's really flourishing there.
00:39:06.000Tyron Woodley has already kind of established himself as being a big-time commentator while he was the champ.
00:39:12.000After he was the champ, he's doing more of that.
00:39:14.000The more guys do that, the more they're going to see, like, oh, well, there is a life in sports after competition.
00:39:20.000I can make a great living, still be involved in the sport that I love, that has given me so much, and I've given so much to.
00:39:59.000It's easy to learn it that way around, I think.
00:40:02.000Get the fighting learned first and then figure out how to tell people about it.
00:40:05.000I often think, you know, when I'm talking to people though, like Anthony Smith, when I speak to him, I always think to myself, as soon as he's done fighting, he can cross straight over into broadcasting because he speaks so well.
00:40:17.000And every time I find a fighter and I feel that about them, I always make sure I tell them.
00:40:22.000Because although you don't want to think about it when you're a fighter because you always want to think, of course you're going to become the world champ and of course you're going to be massively successful and not have to worry about it because that's the only mindset that you should have as a fighter, of course.
00:40:37.000What I've realized is that if I'd have had other options planned when I was fighting, I would have had a lot less pressure when I was fighting.
00:40:47.000I would say for sure, if you're the type of person that needs to concentrate on one thing at a time and that one thing is fighting, just fight.
00:40:55.000But if you're interested in doing it in any way, you don't have to think like, this is my way out.
00:41:01.000You could just say, this is another cool thing I do.
00:46:56.000I had a conversation with Dreamkiller Bolanos.
00:47:00.000You know Gaston Bellanos from Muay Thai and now he's fighting in Bellator.
00:47:06.000We were talking about her and he said, I think she has the best fight IQ of anybody.
00:47:12.000Like maybe better than anybody in the sport, man or woman.
00:47:14.000And I was like, I can't argue with you.
00:47:16.000Well, I mean, you watched that last fight against Liz Carmouche and I know a lot of people complained that it was a slow fight.
00:47:21.000And this is something I realized actually during that fight.
00:47:24.000Sometimes you need to see the whole octagon to really appreciate what's going on.
00:47:28.000Sometimes you need to see like an elevated shot of the whole space because her ability to control that space with the threat of doing something and her ability to cut people off.
00:48:51.000Folks who are listening, we're describing the outside blade of the bone, which would be like the edge of a 2x4 versus the flat part of a 2x4.
00:49:01.000I think if you kick the flat part, it would break.
00:49:03.000Whereas if you kick the edge, it probably is a little bit more durable.
00:50:06.000Did you see that little clip going around of the snail that had a parasite in it that the parasite took over and it's like pulsing in its eyes and the body?
00:51:03.000So this aquatic worm, it climbs inside the grasshopper's body, and then when it's ready to be born, it makes the grasshopper commit suicide, so it can get in the water and swim away.
00:51:15.000Literally talks the grasshopper like, come on, bitch, you're going over here.
00:51:18.000It hijacks its physical motion, makes it jump into water and drown, and then the worm fucking comes out of it like some Stephen King movie.
00:52:32.000It infects an ant, and the other ants take it away from the colony, because they know that it's going to get to a certain point, and then it's going to explode.
00:52:40.000So the ants will literally fill up with these spores, and then explode, and then the spores get into the sky and land on the other ants.
00:54:27.000So one of them gets infected and the other ones are going to carry this dude away because if they don't, he starts growing shit on his head.
00:57:24.000But because of that, we look at the real suffering of the natural world almost like if it's preventable or if it's bad or if it's It's something we should be sad about.
00:57:35.000But there's some really horrific things that take place, especially in the insect world, on a daily basis, that make you just go, what?
00:57:44.000Have you ever seen those hornets that fly into the honeybee nest and behead everyone?
00:58:14.000But then they figured out the way to kill these things is to get on top of them and bat their wings to heat up So they heat up to the point where it overheats the bee and kills it, or the hornet and kills it.
00:58:50.000Well, that's the Rupert Sheldrick thought.
00:58:52.000Is that the sweet potatoes in the sand thing?
00:58:56.000He had this theory called morphic resonance, and one of the things that he was saying was, he was talking about studies they did with rats and mazes, and then if they did a study with a rat in a maze, like on the East Coast, Rats on the West Coast,
00:59:14.000if they went through the same maze, would get through it quicker.
00:59:17.000So it's like they were learning from each other how to get through.
00:59:21.000It's almost like they were sharing some sort of an understanding.
00:59:49.000But we might be a little detached from it, whereas rats who are out there fucking scratching and clawing and they don't have a language, they might be completely tuned into it.
00:59:57.000It might be the sacrifice that language...
01:00:01.000That we made when we went with language where we lost our ability to read each other the way we used to or to read thoughts and ideas where we used to.
01:00:50.000I mean, this is just a gathering of what I remember from reading the study.
01:00:55.000But there was a series of islands all with the same species of monkey on the islands.
01:00:59.000They dropped sweet potatoes into the sand on one island and the monkeys went over and bit into them.
01:01:04.000And because they were covered in sand, they spat them out and left them.
01:01:07.000Some of the younger monkeys realized that if they took them into the sea, they could wash the sand off and then they could eat the sweet potatoes.
01:01:12.000And then when they dropped the sweet potatoes onto the successive islands, they already knew to wash them in the sea.
01:01:24.000Yeah, I really wonder, I mean, I really wonder how much like the human race benefits From the collective knowledge of everyone involved, not just through the internet and books and universities, but maybe even just through consciousness.
01:01:39.000Maybe there's some element of it that's being relayed through consciousness.
01:01:43.000See, I'm invested in it because if I have an idea, I automatically think that that idea is now available to everybody else.
01:01:49.000So I need to jump on that shit pretty quick.
01:01:51.000So I use it as a way of motivating myself.
01:02:28.000A lot of people have very similar experiences.
01:02:31.000So I always feel like I'm receiving it from somewhere else.
01:02:33.000And I think that's a good way of kind of detaching myself from it, not taking ownership of it.
01:02:38.000Yeah, Steven Pressfield wrote about that in a really unique way in The War of Art because he talked about how just showing up and counting on the muse, like thinking about the muse as a real thing, you know, the muse has always been like some, the idea is like something's coming to you with these ideas,
01:02:56.000And so I think his idea is to treat it like it is magical and respect it and to show up every day at work at the same time And summon the muse.
01:03:06.000And then if you just do that with discipline and you act as a professional, all this stuff comes to you.
01:03:19.000It's one of those weird ones, whereas if you pretend it's magic, it kind of works like magic.
01:03:25.000But if you just analyze it, these are just neurons firing in my brain.
01:03:29.000The collective work of all these other people that I've ever experienced in movies and literature, they're all feeling through me, so let's not get carried away about the pretentiousness of creativity.
01:04:54.000The problem is I'm on the road all the time.
01:04:56.000And this is a conversation I've had with Jeff Nowitzki is because, like, I can't give them, like, I don't know exactly how it works, but as far as I know, you have to give them, like, three addresses that these are the places that you're most likely going to be at.
01:05:07.000And if you're not at any of those places, you have to let them know where you are.
01:05:11.000Wow, so what if you're leaving your hotel to go to a pub?
01:06:11.000Imagine if there was no price and if you had to get a new chip, if you fought for a Bellator, and then there was problems turning off your old chip.
01:06:17.000Because it was like, if you get an iPhone and you try to switch to Android, good fucking luck, Cupcake.
01:06:22.000They're going to ruin you with those iMessages.
01:06:25.000You're not going to get half your messages.
01:06:44.000You got the old pride chip in there that keeps switching on every now and then.
01:06:47.000Okay, all bullshit aside, but what if there was, like, we know that testosterone levels, just in natural human beings, it's not fair, right?
01:09:05.000People wear a weird conglomeration of shapes.
01:09:09.000But then the thing is, if it was completely even across the board, then there would be an opportunity for one person to be completely superior to everybody else.
01:10:00.000I've always felt like the optimal, like, fight condition for, like, a lifelong martial artist is to find that balance between all of those things.
01:10:07.000So you've got, you know, an equal balance of everything.
01:10:11.000You don't excel at one particular thing.
01:10:13.000You know, like, you get these martial artists that are just, you know, these juiced up monsters.
01:12:56.000If you wanted to ask someone, hey, my kid's thinking about becoming a mixed martial arts fighter, what discipline do you think you'd start with first?
01:13:05.000It's either a traditional martial arts where you learn how to kick when you're real little and you just learn a lot of flashy kicks because you'll carry that with you.
01:13:13.000And you'll develop leg dexterity, but then wrestling.
01:13:17.000Because if you're a dominant wrestler, that advantage, if you're real similar in everything else, but you're dominant in wrestling, you're going to be able to control the clinch.
01:13:26.000You're going to be able to get the guy down.
01:13:27.000You're going to be able to do things to them.
01:13:38.000And they're doing something to that person that person doesn't want to be done.
01:13:42.000And maybe it's not the most exciting thing for you to watch, but as someone who respects what the sport is supposed to be all about, what can this guy do to that guy?
01:13:52.000Well, that guy can take you down and punch you in the fucking face, and you can't do anything about it.
01:13:55.000And even if you get up and you say, I'm not hurt.
01:14:38.000So I think, like when you watch a fight where someone is winning with just wrestling and very little else, that's a boring fight because it's not a fight.
01:14:47.000The wrestling is the thing that enables you to utilize the submissions or the striking.
01:14:52.000And there's something instinctively about us.
01:14:54.000Whenever there's a fight where they're just wrestling or there's someone just dominating the top position and not using it at all, the fans get restless.
01:15:02.000They start to boo because they feel like they're being robbed of what they came to see.
01:15:06.000And that's my only criticism when it comes to wrestling is to use just wrestling.
01:15:12.000Like, you've got to understand that that is the foundation, that's the glue that you bolt everything else onto.
01:15:17.000So that's why Khabib's so good, because he uses wrestling to put people in a position where he can beat them up.
01:15:22.000Or, I mean, Chuck Liddell, he used his wrestling to keep people in a position where he could knock them out.
01:16:27.000It teaches you how to be super uncomfortable at an early age.
01:16:31.000And there's something about that uncomfortable grind that if you can get through that and make that normal for you, you could get through almost anything.
01:16:38.000And these guys, you see them, like, perfect example, Cejudo versus Marlon Marais.
01:16:44.000Marlon Marais is lighting him on fire in that first round.
01:17:43.000And maybe the best super athlete we've ever had in the sport.
01:17:46.000Arguably, when we think about his physical accomplishments of going from Olympic gold medalist in wrestling, then he went golden gloves boxing.
01:17:54.000You know that whole story about him living in the gym after he won the gold medal?
01:18:02.000I think there's a video about it from Will Harris Productions, but he won the fucking gold medal in the Olympics and then immersed himself in boxing and was living in a fucking boxing gym and sleeping in a boxing gym after winning the gold medal in the Olympics.
01:22:21.000But I think it's debatable, especially if it's 50-50.
01:22:24.000It's like two and a half minutes down, two and a half minutes up.
01:22:26.000Well, what happened in those two and a half minutes downs?
01:22:28.000Yes, you held position, but did you get it back from what that guy was doing to you in the first two and a half minutes when he was chopping at your legs and kicking you in the body?
01:22:48.000It's down to the interpretation of the person watching, and this is how your own personal life experiences come into play.
01:22:53.000If you're a sport jiu-jitsu guy, you're going to see it different to a boxing coach or something like that.
01:22:58.000And the other thing as well, when it comes to the stats, and you look at the total strikes landed, significant strikes landed, I always argue some strikes are far more significant than others.
01:23:08.000Like, if you land 50 significant strikes in a round, sorry, in a fight, and someone lands 10 significant strikes, but those 10 significant strikes blow your eye up, break your nose, knock you down one time, it doesn't matter what the other significant strikes did if they weren't as significant.
01:23:24.000And I think, like, with the Mike Perry-Vicente Luque fight, I would say that that knee was probably the most significant strike of the fight.
01:23:32.000So I'm going to weigh that so much heavier.
01:24:04.000But I think instinctively if somebody finishes stronger, which again, Joel Romero against Robert Whittaker the second time around, he finished stronger than Whittaker quite obviously.
01:24:14.000And I think that people naturally lean towards the person that is...
01:24:17.000They've overcome the hump at the start of the fight.
01:24:19.000It's almost like you've got a round or two.
01:24:21.000You can kind of forgive the person before they take over.
01:24:46.000But how could a round where they're scrapping and they're going at each other, but no one gets knocked down, but it's a fucking wild, chaotic, crazy round.
01:24:56.000But that's where people's perspective of fights can sometimes lean one way.
01:25:02.000Because if someone has a really, really big last round, but they've lost the first two, people are not seeing it as three sections of a fight to be scored.
01:25:10.000If one person's two rounds ahead, sometimes, like I was saying instinctively, if someone has a strong round, you score towards that person because it was more impactful what they did to their opponent.
01:25:21.000So if you take someone down and control them and hold them, even if you do that for four minutes of a round, but for one minute of that round you get lit up against the fence, I'm always going to go towards the person that was doing the lighting up because that was more significant and more impactful on me as a viewer.
01:25:36.000If I'm choosing a tribal leader, I'm going for the guy that had the one minute of success on the feet as opposed to the guy that was holding him down for four.
01:25:43.000Yeah, unless the guy who holds him down eventually mountains him like from Game of Thrones and crushes his fucking head with his thumb through his eyeballs.
01:26:21.000I think we should have a comprehensive system that recognizes the fact that there's near submissions, there's a leg kick that barely touches, and there's a leg kick that cripples your leg.
01:29:30.000When someone's locked up, we've gotten way off track, but my point was if someone's locked up in a submission and the buzzer ends, you know that guy was fucked.
01:30:47.000The point being, if you do get caught like that, if you do get caught like that, and the buzzer saves your life, that should be worth a lot.
01:31:01.000That sounds crazy if there's a 10-9 just like Karmouche and Valentina Shevchenko in the first round where it's fairly uneventful.
01:31:08.000And then you've got one round where the fighter nearly gets finished and saved by the belt and then their opponent can edge out the next two rounds by stuffing takedowns and fighting defensively and then they win our decision.
01:31:19.000Yeah, I really think that there's room for growth.
01:31:47.000Takedowns versus submission attempt, and with the accumulation of leg strikes, I feel like an advantage was gained, and even though much wasn't done with the takedown, it did defensively stop the attack that he was getting on his feet, and he was able to impose his will upon him,
01:33:05.000Footwork in MMA is almost primitive, really.
01:33:09.000I mean, there are certain people that stand out that got really good footwork, but for the most part, there's so much bad decision-making by people not understanding how to corral someone against the fence.
01:33:17.000This is an example of why I don't agree.
01:33:35.000Because Tyron wound up doing what he wanted to do, which is catch Wonderboy in between these movements and land a big shot.
01:33:42.000And he did it in both fights and he hurt him in both fights.
01:33:44.000But both fights were a similar strategy of waiting for Wonderboy to fuck up and not a whole lot of volume and definitely don't charge at that guy.
01:33:54.000Take downs are definitely worth more than controlling the center.
01:33:56.000I don't mean that to be misunderstood.
01:33:58.000But what I'm saying is that the goal is the same thing.
01:34:01.000If you control the center, you're putting someone in a position where you can strike them.
01:34:05.000If you take someone down, you're putting them in a position where you can hit them or submit them.
01:34:49.000But the thing is, say if you're playing guard, right?
01:34:52.000If you've got somebody in your guard and you play 15 minutes of throwing submissions up and nothing comes off, and the other person sits in your guard and lands a few punches, the person on the top is probably going to win the fight because they were sitting in your guard defending submissions and the defense part is its own reward.
01:36:10.000And it certainly makes sense that there's a benefit for getting someone to fight your kind of fight.
01:36:18.000There's so many variables that are really in play, and some of them are dependent upon maybe you don't really understand what their game plan was.
01:36:28.000Maybe their game plan was a really unpredictable fight, something you would never expect from someone with their style.
01:36:34.000Or maybe someone has some hidden skill that we didn't realize they were that good at.
01:36:38.000Remember when Nick Diaz fought Robbie Lawler?
01:36:40.000Everybody thought Nick Diaz is a jiu-jitsu guy.
01:36:47.000But he was beating his ass before that.
01:36:51.000That was what was different about our expectations.
01:36:54.000Our expectations were Nick Diaz was this really well-respected jiu-jitsu player who was real tough and young and had some real good fights.
01:37:03.000I think he started, did he start in WAEC? Is that where he started?
01:37:07.000He started in some smaller organizations.
01:37:10.000That fight with Robbie Lawler was early though, like UFC 37 or something like that.
01:37:40.000That was something that I love about the Diaz brothers, though.
01:37:44.000They've never really had to implement wrestling into their game too much because they've used pressure and boxing to force people to shoot on them.
01:41:47.000This guy's hitting him with some shit, and he's swift on the feet, man.
01:41:51.000Lorenz is like, he's got a very unusual style of footwork and movement, and it's like a lot of guys, you see them trying to decipher it as he's coming at you, and then boom!
01:45:30.000They were quiet when the fights were going on, which was kind of weird because the only fans that I've experienced that do that are the Japanese fans.
01:45:37.000You know, when the fight's going on, they sit quietly, they watch, they applaud when there's a position change.
01:45:42.000There were some good fights on the card as well.
01:45:44.000The Haoleon Paiva knee as well from, what's his opponent's name?
01:48:13.000And I'm really excited that Tonin is now in MMA. Because he's doing really well in MMA. He's undefeated and he's fucking people up standing up too.
01:48:36.000I spent some time talking to him when I was up in Montreal at TriStar and the way he unpacks things and breaks things down and not only breaks them down for himself to understand but for him to be able to communicate that easily to other people for them to understand.
01:48:53.000It takes a special kind of coach to be able to do that.
01:48:56.000Well, he's a really, really interesting human.
01:49:01.000If you just sit down and talk to him, he's one of the most well-thought-out people I think I've ever had the pleasure of having a conversation with.
01:49:08.000He just thinks things through and irons out all his points before he ever expresses them.
01:49:14.000So when he expresses something to you, he's like, let me ask you this.
01:49:21.000I'll never forget him sitting in a club in Montreal Like, GSP's there, and all of his mates, and they're all, like, dressed sharp and stuff, and they're, like, talking to the girls.
01:49:59.000What he is is I think he's singularly focused on transitions and attacks and patterns in jiu-jitsu and how to improve upon various athletes' success in games.
01:50:12.000And he's created these pathways and these guys that believe in him also happen to be super dedicated and very talented.
01:50:19.000And then you have that entire Henzo Gracie team, which is just one of the best lineages of jiu-jitsu in all of martial arts.
01:50:26.000And if you look at what came out of that Henzo Gracie, you have Matt Serra came out of there.
01:50:33.000There's been so many high-level competitors in a million different martial arts organizations.
01:50:47.000He's got, it's just, that's an amazing pool of talent on top of having a wizard like Donaher in there fucking with things and fixing things and finding new pathways and how to counter things and how to switch things around on people.
01:51:03.000And they have a bunch of systems, like back-taking systems, leg-locking systems, and it's super, super effective.
01:51:09.000And the way he describes it is he's able to cut years out of the learning curve of these guys by addressing problems that come up before they come up.
01:51:26.000And for sure, they all learn from each other, for sure.
01:51:29.000I mean, Eddie is also a big innovator in leg locking and understanding these systems and innovating and coming up with new entries and new transitions.
01:51:40.000It's like everyone has their own little piece of ingredient that they're putting into the stew, but the result is really exceptional in terms of success rates.
01:51:48.000Like, they stood out in a world where everyone's trying to kill everybody with chokes and arm bars, and everybody knows chokes and arm bars.
01:51:55.000And they stood out, like, significantly.
01:51:58.000But, you know, the thing with Danaher as well is to be able to sit on the mat and watch all of those high-level guys work against each other.
01:52:04.000Like, he's seeing the patterns across the mat.
01:52:07.000I wish I'd have done this earlier on in my career.
01:52:10.000Like, I watched fights as a fan, but then the further into my career, the more I was specific about who I watched.
01:52:15.000I only wanted to watch the fighters that I felt like I was going to benefit from.
01:52:19.000Whereas now, because I watch everything, I see the patterns.
01:52:23.000And I can imagine, because Danaher is on the mat all the time, watching all of these guys every day, seeing the patterns in jiu-jitsu all the time.
01:52:30.000The same positions that get exchanged over and over again, and the different outcomes for each one.
01:52:36.000And he just seems to have one of those kind of brains that just...
01:52:39.000Absorbs everything, adds it into his filtration system, and then figures out the more high percentage stuff, and then focuses that as his syllabus.
01:52:47.000And what's really interesting is if he wasn't injured as badly as he is, I mean, he probably would have gone on to compete and maybe not been as good of a coach.
01:52:57.000That's one of the more amazing pieces to that puzzle.
01:53:01.000He was a rugby player, fucked his knee up early.
01:53:04.000They fixed it, but they didn't fix it right, and it was always a problem, and he was always kind of leaning on it in a weird way, and it fucked his hip up.
01:53:12.000So he had to get a hip replacement, now he's going to get a knee replacement, and he's a guy known for teaching people how to rip people's legs apart.
01:54:27.000Depending upon body size and style and what strengths you come into, especially in MMA. But what Dwayne is doing is sort of like learning what he learned from everybody, watching everybody, but not what he did.
01:54:42.000He's obviously teaching you stuff that he knows how to do and stuff that he did do, but that style of footwork and switching stances and movement that you see TJ employ and a lot of his other students employ, Dwayne's got that written out.
01:54:56.000He's one of those guys that has a real system.
01:54:59.000If you look at his book, you're like, oh my god, he's a crazy person.
01:55:16.000And he puts those patterns on you and you see the success rate from his students learning this thing.
01:55:22.000He had a big effect on Team Alpha Male for the brief amount of time that he was there.
01:55:26.000You saw some good results from some of those guys.
01:55:29.000He's just uniquely obsessed with teaching people how to strike correctly.
01:55:33.000And that's where I think there's a very fine line between programming a fighter and being a computer programmer.
01:55:39.000You get all those systems in place and then...
01:55:41.000That's why, like, Faraz, as you just mentioned, and GSP, they had such a good relationship because it always felt to me like Faraz was, like, sitting in the corner with his control pad, just kind of playing the game.
01:55:52.000And because he programmed his fighter so well, it was a responsive thing.
01:56:00.000And, like, obviously there's some level of freedom and creativity for the fighter, but they've always got that backup, that person in the corner that can tell them something, and they know exactly what they mean, and they just apply it and it works.
01:56:12.000Those systems coming into play and all the codes that are coming in now, it's interesting.
01:56:19.000I think those kind of fighters will always fall short to the likes of the Adesanya's and Anderson Silva's that can play the game inside the Octagon.
01:56:30.000Anderson Silva, I think the most underestimated knockout of his, and it was a great knockout, but still people don't really fully appreciate it, was the Vitor Belfort front kick to the face.
01:56:40.000Because Vitor was expecting the low kick and he brings his shin up to block the low kick as he gets kicked in the face.
01:56:46.000And if you watch it from the opposite angle over Vitor's shoulder, you can see Anderson's looking at his lead leg.
01:56:52.000That is so underappreciated because you don't see those cells from the replays.
01:56:57.000You don't see the glances and the looks and the shifts of the body weight and the nuances of the fight.
01:57:03.000Sometimes I'll watch these replays 10-15 times from different angles and all of a sudden I'll see something and It's like a light bulb moment.
01:57:11.000Yeah, Anderson had many of those moments in his career where you recognize that he had seen a pattern and then he just struck on that pattern and hit pay dirt.
01:59:23.000But Robbie just, you know, like that first round in particular, when he's up against the fence and he wasn't even hand-fighting the chokes, like that, it looked like he was kind of coasting for a couple of rounds with the intention of getting started later.
01:59:35.000But then, I just think the intensity of Colby just burned him out faster than he expected.
01:59:40.000I think when you're an explosive guy like Robbie is, where he fires fucking hard.
02:00:57.000Do you think there's a point where Colby thinks, you know, at any point during his training camp, like, shit, I've stacked the odds against myself here.
02:01:03.000I had that moment before Marcus Davis where I thought to myself, if I lose here, I'm going to look really fucking stupid.
02:01:09.000I think that Colby is doing a brilliant job of playing a bad guy, like pro wrestling style.
02:01:16.000And I think he didn't used to do that early in his career.
02:01:19.000He was a hard-working guy who just went out there and fought his ass off, but people didn't give a shit.
02:01:24.000And they weren't giving him the credit that he deserves.
02:02:14.000And when they trained together, Colby was getting the best of it.
02:02:17.000I mean, I think they did train together at an American Top Team.
02:02:21.000Maybe Colby knew that he could out-wrestle him.
02:02:23.000He knew if he just stayed on him, he would break him and out-wrestle him.
02:02:26.000I mean, when someone has a wrestling advantage, it goes back to this one more time.
02:02:30.000When someone has a wrestling advantage, that is a big deal when you start getting tired and this guy has better technique than you and he's not as tired as you are because he's fighting more efficiently and then he gets a hold of you and they're like, fuck him on my back.
02:03:33.000Like, you can't just take their fight, you can't take their belt away if they don't want to fight right now because they're injured or because they need surgery.
02:03:41.000I think we have to respect the championship title.
02:03:44.000Otherwise, people are going to look at interim championships like it doesn't mean anything.
02:03:48.000It should mean as much as a championship.
02:03:51.000Like, we're saying you have to fight for the title next.
02:03:55.000So to say that they don't have to fight for the title next and we're just going to take that thing away from you.
02:04:32.000The problem is sometimes you've got the champion defending their belt against another contender and there's an interim champion that's not available to fight.
02:04:39.000But that doesn't mean you have to strip the title from the interim champion.
02:08:20.000I'm having a few, like, you know, I'm walking over Old Grand and having a good, you know, some memories, because I went to the 101 Cafe and had the waffle brownie Sunday.
02:08:37.000And I tend to eat in a small window of time, so like sort of six or eight hours, and that tends to start later in the day.
02:08:44.000Because I'm on a weird sleep cycle, because I'm living in the UK. Most of the fights, you know, the main card's starting at 3am on a Saturday.
02:09:32.000So basically, we've got a few different series.
02:09:35.000The one I'm working on at the moment is The War Room, which is my breakdowns of the fight.
02:09:39.000So I do Inside the Octagon for the UFC, but because I only do the main events and the European cards, I get so many messages for the fight.
02:09:46.000So for this week, everybody wanted a Diaz-Pettis breakdown and a Romero-Costa breakdown.
02:09:51.000So I've done both of them, and they're up.
02:09:54.000And this is all you independently, correct?
02:10:19.000So we've got a load of gyms opening up, and my own gym obviously has opened up.
02:10:23.000And then, like, the YouTube channel is really my main focus, because it's my way to communicate directly to the fans, because they're constantly asking for breakdowns, so I can do that.
02:10:32.000And the Raptors are now doing all the media stuff, so they're creating vlogs.
02:10:36.000But, I mean, today, I actually feel today I was saying this on the drive over, because they wanted to come over and meet your big fans of the podcast and everything.
02:10:43.000So I brought them to your show in Vegas as well, which blew their mind.
02:10:47.000But they were supposed to be at media day today interviewing the fighters as part of their job this week.
02:10:52.000So I said I feel like a parent taking them out of school for the day.
02:10:56.000Because when we're done here, I'm going to take them to the Mel's drive-thru and then up to Malibu and show them some California.
02:12:19.000The difference in this fight between the two is that I think, well, we know Romero can fight for five rounds and he'll take his time early.
02:12:27.000But Costa comes out throwing guns straight away.
02:12:40.000Is he as fast and powerful as Yoel, and you know, he's beaten really good guys like Uriah Hall, but this is the cream of the crop.
02:12:48.000I mean, he's in there against the motherfucker of all motherfuckers at 185. You talk about a dude who just can explode on you and send you flying through the air.
02:14:59.000We have a Polish fighter against Anthony Hamilton.
02:15:03.000And I had the voice come through in my ear saying that that fight wasn't going to be walking.
02:15:07.000So just to drop it off the schedule, like during the weigh-ins are going.
02:15:10.000And immediately I'm thinking that's kind of strange.
02:15:13.000And I'm not sure whether, obviously, you know, some areas of Poland, there's a racial undertone.
02:15:17.000I wasn't sure whether it was because Anthony Hamilton was going to Get some heat if he walks out on stage.
02:15:22.000The next thing, I've got quite a unique perspective because I can see down the two tunnels where the fans walk into the floor and I saw this whole bunch of skinheads with bomber jackets and boots just come marching in and they filled the floor space and then they all went and sat down in one of the blocks and just sat there waiting for him.
02:15:39.000And it was because he was from a rival football firm.
02:16:12.000How do you feel like Romero and Costa plays out if you had a bank on it?
02:16:17.000If I gave you $100, how do you see this play out?
02:16:21.000I think Costa starts fast, and I think he pushes Romero back up against the fence.
02:16:25.000Romero defends it, covers and covers, throws a couple of shots to push Costa back, and then I think the second round comes, and Costa comes crashing forward, and Romero catches him with something.
02:16:36.000Right hook over the top, something like that.
02:16:38.000The technique I'm watching out for for Costa, which is going to be useful for Romero, he throws a great body kick to left hook.
02:16:45.000And Romero's got this bad habit, and you can see it all the way through the Whittaker fights.
02:16:49.000Every time someone throws a kick, he does this over-dramatized scoop with his arm to parry it out of the way.
02:16:55.000If he's parrying out the way, that body kick is going to be wide open for the left hook.
02:16:59.000So that's something I'm watching out for with Costa.
02:17:00.000I just feel like his overconfidence, his willingness to take risks, and the fact that Romero's patient can take his time, he's never in a rush to get the knockout because he knows he can get it at any point in the fight.
02:17:12.000I feel like his patience might play off and Costa might walk onto something.
02:17:17.000Imagine if he KOs Costa and we play this over that.
02:18:33.000It's just that mental hump he got stuck on, right?
02:18:36.000He had to go through that one fight, you know?
02:18:39.000The thing is sometimes we get these fighters coming into the UFC and they're so talented that they're in the UFC fairly early in their career before they've had any real lessons, especially if they've just starched a bunch of guys.
02:18:49.000If they come in 10 fights into their career and they've knocked everyone out in the first round, there's no real learning process there because they've not found anyone to challenge them.
02:18:58.000So then they get into the UFC and then we get to see them go through that process in the UFC. And I think that's what we've seen with Ngannou.
02:19:05.000It took him getting to a world title for someone to really show him something in his game that made him feel vulnerable.
02:19:11.000And then we've watched him go through that process.
02:19:15.000In the moment, it's really annoying because we want to see a mad fight.
02:19:18.000But in hindsight, you can kind of look at it and go, well, I appreciate that as part of his journey now.
02:20:00.000Because I would say that he took bigger punches from Ngannou in that fight than the punch from DC. And I would say he was probably more vulnerable to the punch from DC because he probably wasn't expecting DC to knock him out.
02:24:16.000So maybe he relies on his coaches and their guidance of him during training.
02:24:20.000And for sure he knows that DC knocked him out.
02:24:23.000So what he's going to do is go in there and fight like he's trying to get it back.
02:24:27.000The question is, is he going to be able to use that long reach and that height and that power on the outside and keep DC the fuck away from him?
02:24:35.000Because he's got a considerable height and reach advantage.
02:25:45.000Obviously, there's people that knew that Andy Ruiz was a really talented boxer coming in.
02:25:52.000But there's other people that looked at his body and dismissed him.
02:25:55.000But when you see the efficiency of those punches and the fact that he's able to uncork so many punches in close, whereas Anthony Joshua with his giant arms and his long length gets a little bit smothered by that closer distance.
02:26:09.000And he's just dropping bombs on him over the top and big power to him too, man.
02:26:26.000And there's something to be said for that physique as well.
02:26:28.000There's an efficiency that comes with that.
02:26:30.000You look at Anthony Joshua, and yeah, he looks like a physical specimen, but the drawbacks would be obvious over rounds, whereas Andy Ruiz, DC, they just keep flowing.
02:26:40.000And those punches are more about the momentum.
02:26:43.000You need a certain amount of muscle mass to get the movement started, and then you maintain it with good technique.
02:26:49.000An additional amount of muscle is not going to make for a heavier punch, really.
02:26:53.000Right, and he's talked openly about being far stronger in training as a heavyweight than he was as a light heavyweight.
02:27:12.000I feel like performance-wise, there was moments where Cain Velasquez was in his prime where I said, like, that's the motherfucker.
02:27:19.000That, to me, I mean, I know it doesn't play out on paper because he was injured multiple times out of gang surgeries, but when he was in his prime, man, he was terrifying.
02:30:38.000But he's practicing this really weird takedown defense the other day, and I was wondering if he's actually going to try to use it, where someone's diving on him, and he's drilling this, where someone's going in on a leg, and he's diving onto their back and rolling over the top of their back.
02:30:53.000He's going back-to-back with them, and then rolling over the front.
02:30:57.000And I was like, wow, imagine if he pulls this off.
02:31:46.000But he's a really interesting fighter in that he's got a great blend of traditional martial arts, wrestling, and he's got boxing style, but he also has karate style.
02:32:36.000Because the good thing with Ryzen is that usually it's starting when the UFC's just finished.
02:32:40.000So I'll have been up all night, so the prelims will have started at 11 o'clock, main card's at 3 a.m., then by 6, I'm waiting on the press conference usually, but then Ryzen's starting, so I'm switching.
02:33:20.000yeah dude that's like one of the most legendary martial arts documentaries of all time yeah do you remember um do you remember the one uh day of zen mario sperry yes that was like i do that was like it was it was a day it was a day in the life of mario sperry he decided to put one of each of his training sessions from the whole week into the same day there were like five different training sessions and by the last two he was just exhausted like it was quite clear they tried to fit so much into that one day right that was fascinating And he was using one of those vibrating platforms.
02:34:15.000Yeah, Mario Sperry became one of the head coaches at Black Zillions for a short period of time and put on these crazy motivational speeches where everybody got fired up.
02:34:28.000I don't know why it didn't work out, but it was a really exciting development.
02:34:31.000Because I know Rashad Evans was really excited about having him over there.
02:34:34.000I mean, I don't know what happened behind the scenes, but I remember when Mario Sperry was coaching the classes and getting everybody fired up.
02:35:23.000And the guy would teach you, and then after he'd teach you, we said thank you, and he's like, no, my friend, thank you for the pleasure of teaching you.
02:36:35.000And they lived in the gym as well back then.
02:36:38.000Everything about their life revolved around the gym.
02:36:42.000Trying to find that kind of environment now.
02:36:46.000I mean, Danaher's, as we were talking about, Henzo Gracie's, I'd imagine that's got a very similar vibe, you know, in a basement in New York.
02:36:52.000Everyone's showing up every day and grinding, doing the same thing.
02:36:55.000But it's such a rare environment to find yourself in.
02:36:58.000Do you remember when Mario Sperry got tapped out by that badass Russian dude?
02:37:27.000Google Frank Shamrock's mixed martial arts record.
02:37:31.000Frank Shamrock slammed this dude and KO'd him, and this guy was famous for having beaten Mario Sperry in the old school, what was it called?
02:39:18.000He said, one thing you told me, for instance, okay, one thing you told me is he got a heads up when the authorities were going to come to his house the night before.
02:39:25.000And then he says, listen, what you say is between you and me.
02:39:49.000I remember getting those video cassettes from the Virgin Megastore in town, UFC 2 and 3. Man, I remember when you first started fighting in the UFC. I remember those days.
02:43:16.000There are some fighters that will go, okay, you want 25 minutes?
02:43:19.000I'll just spread out my same workload over 25 instead of 15. The thing I like about it is that it can be far more tactical and the one thing that I enjoy about boxing is the fact that you can implement a narrative in the first round that can play out in the later rounds and you can allow it to breathe a bit because you've got 12 segments that are being scored separately.
02:43:39.000You can gamble a few and you can play that game whereas in MMA you lose one round you've got to win two.
02:43:45.000So the five rounds you can lose one, you can even lose two if you're feeling very brave and then win the last three.
02:43:54.000Yeah, I think it definitely changes the way you fight, right?
02:43:57.000I mean, if all boxing matches were like glory fights, like glory fights, three rounds for the non-title fights, and they're only three-minute rounds, those guys go to war.
02:44:08.000I mean, it's one of the reasons why it's so exciting is because there's such a high output, high volume, because they know there's only three rounds.
02:45:46.000It's a right body kick to a straight right.
02:45:49.000And because Diaz is southpaw and he leans so heavy on that lead leg, blocking the body kick and eating the straight right might be something that Pettis is going to be looking for.
02:45:57.000But I just, I feel like Diaz is there to be hit.
02:45:59.000And I think he uses that to his advantage because he's kind of Homer Simpson's people.
02:46:03.000Like, you wear yourself out hitting me, and then I'll start to push my game on you.
02:46:08.000But when you think about him against talented strikers, like you brought up Michael Johnson who chopped at his leg, but he wound up beating him up.
02:46:15.000But the Conor McGregor fight, Conor is a very skillful striker.
02:46:19.000And in both fights, he wasn't really able to do much with Nate.
02:46:23.000He clipped him a couple times in the second fight and dropped him.
02:46:30.000Like, did he drop because he got knocked down?
02:46:33.000Or did he drop because he felt like it was a good enough punch to lay down and have Conor come and meet him and wrap him up and catch him in something, which he easily could.
02:47:54.000I'm not going to underestimate any of that.
02:47:55.000One thing I will say, though, is that the difference in the way that the fighters absorb punches is different.
02:48:00.000So all the people that you mentioned that got knocked out by McGregor, they were all leaning heavy on their lead leg.
02:48:06.000So to me, that is like hitting a punch bag that's hanging from the ceiling.
02:48:10.000Hitting Nate Diaz is like hitting a punch bag that's standing on the floor because his weight is so spread over his base that when you hit him, you know those inflatable stand-up punch bags?
02:48:19.000If you blast that thing in the top, it just rocks away and comes back.
02:48:25.000That's how he was able to absorb those shots from McGregor because as they were coming at him, he was already moving away and he was able to ride the power and then McGregor was overextending.
02:48:35.000There's no doubt he's a durable individual.
02:48:37.000I'm just saying that he leans on that sometimes too much.
02:49:00.000I mean, maybe this guy's been just torturing himself...
02:49:04.000Dehydrating himself and not fighting like he's capable of because his body's always weakened like his number one complaint was when he went down to 45 he was a dead man yeah he looked terrible his body just couldn't do it so he goes back up to 55 and like discouraged and then on this wild whim takes this fight at 70 against Wonderboy and Fucking Superman punches him in the mug and KOs him.
02:49:28.000Like seeing Wonderboy out cold for the first time in a UFC fight and seeing it happen because of Pettis.
02:49:33.000I mean, he gets tagged again while he's out.
02:53:22.000So if I can at least get him to throw and fatigue himself, then my window of opportunity will come later in the fight.
02:53:28.000And the original main event was Tito against Naguera.
02:53:33.000And Tito pulled out of the fight injured, so they put Phil Davis in.
02:53:36.000And immediately I got a message on Twitter from Anthony Johnson, like DM on Twitter, and he was like, I can't believe they didn't bump us up to the main event.
02:54:04.000So I went into the fight with the full intention that I was going to have to move around and cover and try and counter him until he got tired.
02:54:11.000Then I was going to take advantage of that.
02:54:14.000He hit me with a head kick like early on in the fight and I blocked it.
02:54:18.000It didn't knock me out, it knocked me down.
02:54:49.000It was going to be a counter-striking match, and I was going to defend his strikes, and I didn't expect him to try and take me down at all.
02:54:55.000Dude, I think that weight class, when he was cutting down from way above 200 to get to 170, I think it tired him so badly.
02:55:03.000We didn't see the real Anthony Johnson until he went up to light heavyweight, which is so crazy.
02:55:07.000Remember, he missed weight at 85 and Vitor beat him up.
03:00:57.000A cardiac specialist for athletes and he put me through all the same tests and he pointed out what they'd seen and he said that it could have been accentuated because I was weight cutting, I was in training camp, I was tired.
03:01:08.000He said, but ultimately there's nothing in these records that show that you can't fight and you're not safe to fight.
03:01:57.000So my plan is just to kind of get to about 85% condition and just sit there.
03:02:01.000And then, like, I mean, this weekend is a great example if, like, you know, Petit or Diaz fell out and there's no one else around.
03:02:08.000That's the kind of place I'll just throw my name in the hat just to be available.
03:02:11.000And one of those fights will be perfect for me.
03:02:14.000One of the veterans of the game, someone that's not too concerned with the rankings or anything like that, drop in there, have a great fight, and then step back out again.
03:02:23.000So is that how you'd like to approach it?
03:02:25.000You want to immediately jump back in and fight someone with a big name?
03:02:35.000Well, I know I will love it, but I feel very selfish thinking about fighting again anyway because what I've realized since I've been fighting is it's not just me coming out of retirement.
03:02:55.000I know what I put my family through and because I've had time to kind of step back and allow them some time to Their souls aren't as calcified to the idea of me fighting anymore.
03:03:06.000So it's a serious conversation to have.
03:03:09.000The reality is the sport's very different now.
03:03:42.000I'd like to be able to speak quite candidly to the camera and just bank a load of stuff.
03:03:46.000So after the fight, I've got all this footage that I can put into something to kind of...
03:03:53.000Give some insight into the mentality of the fighter and the ups and downs of training camp.
03:03:57.000Because the days you show up to media day, to the press conference, and you're confident on the stage, and you're shit-talking your opponent, and you're smiling and stuff, you might get back to your dressing room and you might be exhausted.