The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #82 with Israel Adesanya

00:00:00.000 Three.

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00:00:02.000 Ladies and gentlemen, the champ is here.

00:00:04.000 My man.

00:00:04.000 Salud.

00:00:05.000 Salud.

00:00:05.000 Last time.

00:00:06.000 L'chaim.

00:00:08.000 Last time you were here, you were neither the interim nor the undisputed.

00:00:13.000 Now you got it all.

00:00:14.000 I'm the double interim champ.

00:00:15.000 You got it.

00:00:15.000 Why?

00:00:16.000 Why say double?

00:00:16.000 You keep saying that.

00:00:17.000 Double interim.

00:00:18.000 Double interim.

00:00:19.000 I don't know.

00:00:20.000 Robert Whitaker's the champ.

00:00:21.000 Yeah, he was.

00:00:22.000 You knocked him out.

00:00:23.000 You're the champ.

00:00:24.000 Because when I was there, you know, even my last fight, I feel like it's my first title defense, to be honest.

00:00:28.000 Because I was waiting for something to change.

00:00:30.000 I was waiting for that feeling that I had in Atlanta, but it never came.

00:00:33.000 And within three days, I was like, I felt like I just defended the belt.

00:00:36.000 Because technically, I was the champ as well.

00:00:38.000 I was the champ.

00:00:39.000 And if he had beat me, he'd have got one of those rubies you put on this.

00:00:42.000 So I'm looking for my ruby as well.

00:00:44.000 They get a ruby?

00:00:45.000 Yeah, like that's the thing.

00:00:46.000 You know how you used to get a new belt?

00:00:47.000 Yeah.

00:00:48.000 Yeah, you don't get a new belt anymore.

00:00:49.000 So what they do is you send this off.

00:00:52.000 This isn't actually my one, my one.

00:00:55.000 I've sent it off.

00:00:55.000 This isn't yours?

00:00:56.000 Yeah, but...

00:00:57.000 You sent yours already?

00:00:58.000 I sent...

00:00:58.000 You take this plaque off, this plaque on the side, and then you send it off, then they put a ruby and send it back to you.

00:01:03.000 They put a ruby in the plaque?

00:01:04.000 Yeah.

00:01:05.000 So you collect, like, the infinity stones or whatever.

00:01:07.000 Oh.

00:01:08.000 Yeah, so I got the soul stone.

00:01:09.000 Oh.

00:01:11.000 Yeah.

00:01:11.000 Dude, I used to not like this belt.

00:01:13.000 Now I like it better.

00:01:14.000 It's grown.

00:01:14.000 Yeah, it took me, like, maybe two days after everyone complained about it.

00:01:17.000 Then I looked at it, and when I first saw it, I think it was at the PI, and I was like, you know what?

00:01:21.000 I fuck with it.

00:01:22.000 Yeah, for a while I was like, ah, the old one's better.

00:01:26.000 Now I'm like, I don't think so anymore.

00:01:27.000 Nostalgia.

00:01:28.000 Nostalgia.

00:01:29.000 Yeah, it gets you every time.

00:01:30.000 This one's cleaner.

00:01:31.000 Yeah.

00:01:31.000 It's just like sharp.

00:01:32.000 More legible.

00:01:33.000 The old one, it was cool.

00:01:35.000 And I still like to, I could buy one on the website, hopefully.

00:01:37.000 Yeah, but those are light.

00:01:38.000 Yeah, but just for like nostalgic purposes.

00:01:41.000 And just because, you know, I've been a fan.

00:01:43.000 I should have got one of those.

00:01:44.000 I came at the end of it.

00:01:46.000 Colby's still walking around with one.

00:01:48.000 Man, don't get attached to these things, man.

00:01:50.000 I flexed with them for a little bit, you know, because even my last, after Atlanta, my coach, he was kind of worried because I was going to Nigeria, I was going to all these shows.

00:01:59.000 I got to like show it off, flex it, but he's my coach.

00:02:02.000 So Eugene's like, man, you know, don't think you're the champ yet.

00:02:05.000 But I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm the champ.

00:02:07.000 But then there was a point when we moved gyms and I just kind of, all right, put in this box with everything else.

00:02:12.000 And then he kind of posted about it because he saw like, okay, the switch happened, like it's game time now.

00:02:17.000 So same thing, I'm doing my tour right now, victory tour, walk around, do all this shit, but then, even being at the fights last weekend, I got FOMO, because after the fights, I see what's up, people talking about me, right, right, right, right, so I'm like, man, I gotta get back to the gym.

00:02:29.000 So when I get back, I don't even look at this thing.

00:02:32.000 That's interesting.

00:02:33.000 So you're aware that you could get too into the moment.

00:02:38.000 Yeah.

00:02:38.000 You can get too wrapped up in the fact that you won the title and maybe slack off a little.

00:02:42.000 100%.

00:02:42.000 Or maybe take yourself too seriously.

00:02:45.000 Yeah.

00:02:45.000 Because I mean, a lot of people, this is their goal.

00:02:47.000 They're like, I want to become the UFC champion.

00:02:49.000 They get it done.

00:02:50.000 And then what happens after in the next fight?

00:02:52.000 They lose it.

00:02:53.000 Or they lose track of what really matters.

00:02:56.000 So some guys like Kobe, for example, he's walking around with the belt.

00:03:00.000 When Usman whoops his ass, then what's going to happen?

00:03:04.000 You're going to walk around with that belt?

00:03:05.000 How are you going to feel?

00:03:07.000 Well, the Colby thing is interesting.

00:03:09.000 And I don't know how much Colby wants people talking about this, but I'm going to spill it as much as I can.

00:03:13.000 That's an act, man.

00:03:14.000 That's a strong act that he put on when they were ready to cut him.

00:03:18.000 They were ready to cut.

00:03:19.000 You talk to that guy in real life.

00:03:20.000 He's very respectful.

00:03:21.000 Jeff's been around him.

00:03:22.000 Jeff's been and said he's the nicest guy.

00:03:23.000 He's a nice guy, man.

00:03:25.000 He's playing a pro wrestling heel, and he's got the whole world worked up.

00:03:29.000 It sells.

00:03:30.000 And here's the thing, though.

00:03:31.000 This is where it's interesting.

00:03:33.000 It tricks people because he seems like a goof.

00:03:36.000 He wears this stupid fucking cheap blue suit.

00:03:39.000 He wears that MAGA hat.

00:03:40.000 Does that smile?

00:03:41.000 He's got the old belt.

00:03:42.000 You know it's not a legit belt, right?

00:03:44.000 But he did win the interim title and they took it from him for no reason.

00:03:48.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:03:49.000 So there's this thing about him where people somehow or another think, like, maybe he's illegitimate.

00:03:53.000 Maybe he's not real.

00:03:54.000 Then he...

00:03:55.000 He fucks Robbie Lawler up.

00:03:56.000 Yeah, he can work.

00:03:57.000 And you go, oh, Jesus, this guy doesn't get tired.

00:04:00.000 He can strike.

00:04:01.000 His wrestling's on point.

00:04:02.000 His fucking cardio's off the chart.

00:04:04.000 He's tough as nails.

00:04:06.000 Yeah, I was impressed on the inside.

00:04:07.000 He's legit.

00:04:07.000 Especially when he put Robbie against the fence.

00:04:09.000 He was right there slipping and ripping.

00:04:11.000 Oh, yeah.

00:04:12.000 Some things, you know, everyone has holes in their game.

00:04:14.000 I have holes in my game.

00:04:15.000 But he was really impressive.

00:04:16.000 The way he was right there in his face against Robbie Lawler.

00:04:19.000 He's not an elite striker in the sense of like he's a guy who will slip and then blast someone unconscious with one shot.

00:04:26.000 He's a volume guy.

00:04:27.000 He's tough.

00:04:28.000 He's throwing 60%.

00:04:29.000 50-60%.

00:04:30.000 Just on you.

00:04:31.000 On you.

00:04:32.000 That's it.

00:04:32.000 The DS style.

00:04:33.000 Yep.

00:04:33.000 Never let you rest.

00:04:34.000 Never let you rest.

00:04:35.000 And Robbie in that fight.

00:04:36.000 And Robbie's a fucking...

00:04:38.000 All-time great welterweight champion.

00:04:40.000 I mean, he was a legit top-of-the-food-chain motherfucker, and he was looking for those openings that were never there.

00:04:46.000 He was always looking for Colby to slow down.

00:04:48.000 Colby never slowed down.

00:04:49.000 He was waiting.

00:04:49.000 He would see him just waiting, waiting, and he was just buying his time.

00:04:52.000 Looking to explode.

00:04:53.000 Okay, fuck, fuck.

00:04:55.000 Here it is, here it is.

00:04:56.000 And there's ways to do that.

00:04:57.000 I did it against Whitaker as well.

00:04:59.000 You see it, excuse me, I always gotta burp.

00:05:04.000 It's times when he'll like, I'll put a clip of this, it's like a simple one, shifting, real simple, subtle thing, just move, two step, one, two, that's it.

00:05:12.000 I can see it when he'll like, bounce, bounce, alright, I'm ready to go.

00:05:16.000 You shift, you disrupt the pattern, okay, reset, reset.

00:05:19.000 I'm about to attack.

00:05:21.000 Wonder Boy did it to Luke the past weekend.

00:05:23.000 Whenever he was bouncing, he's going to bounce, bounce, and then Wonder Boy shifts.

00:05:27.000 So he was doing it with the offense.

00:05:29.000 Bounce, bounce, bounce, attack.

00:05:31.000 So he was just, it's all about rhythm.

00:05:32.000 I love that.

00:05:33.000 Well, you have something that Wonder Boy has that a few other people have in that you're a specialist.

00:05:39.000 And that being a specialist, and obviously you have a full game.

00:05:44.000 There's no way you get to where you are without a full game, but you are an elite striker.

00:05:49.000 Thank you.

00:05:49.000 And with that, that's a giant advantage, because on the feet, you are a step ahead of everybody.

00:05:55.000 Every fight starts standing on the feet.

00:05:57.000 And you see it with Whitaker, because Whitaker's a great striker.

00:05:59.000 He's a tough guy, but he had holes in his game that maybe he didn't even know he had.

00:06:03.000 But you could see that.

00:06:05.000 You know what it was?

00:06:05.000 I got in his head, and everyone, like, I can see this kind of stuff, man.

00:06:10.000 Before the fight, the press conference, when he was talking and acting all unbothered and stuff like that, and I was like, what?

00:06:16.000 He's acting out of character.

00:06:18.000 He put this meme up, right?

00:06:19.000 And the people thought I was affected by the meme, but all that showed me was like, you've never talked shit or poked fun at anyone you're fighting, but somehow, suddenly, you're poking fun at me.

00:06:28.000 That's showing your first card.

00:06:29.000 You're showing your first hand.

00:06:30.000 And a lot of things he did throughout the backtracking and whatnot, I was like, you're showing me your hand.

00:06:36.000 You're acting out of character.

00:06:37.000 Even my coach said the same thing.

00:06:38.000 And I said, just do what got you to the dance.

00:06:41.000 Don't try and talk shit with a guy who knows how to talk shit.

00:06:44.000 I know he knows how to talk shit with his friends and shit like that, but not with me.

00:06:47.000 The internet kid is different.

00:06:49.000 Don't make memes against me.

00:06:50.000 I'm a mean majesty.

00:06:51.000 But like, yeah.

00:06:52.000 And then when he came to the cage, you saw me when I walked up, I stomped the yard.

00:06:57.000 Stomped the yard and I entered the cage.

00:06:59.000 And when he came in, I could feel it.

00:07:02.000 He was like, let's fucking go!

00:07:03.000 You know, beating the chest.

00:07:04.000 The thing he did.

00:07:05.000 And he took about a minute and a bit before he looked me in the eyes.

00:07:08.000 And I was looking at him the whole time.

00:07:10.000 And he, like a cat.

00:07:12.000 You corner, even a chicken.

00:07:13.000 Get one of your chickens, corner it like a rooster.

00:07:15.000 It's dangerous.

00:07:17.000 When you corner any kind of beast, they'll attack you at any point.

00:07:20.000 So I could see him pacing back and forth like a caged animal.

00:07:24.000 And the whole time, he was the hunter and I was the hunter.

00:07:28.000 So I was watching him and I could feel it.

00:07:31.000 You're not really about this.

00:07:33.000 And he's trying to hype himself.

00:07:34.000 Let's fucking go!

00:07:35.000 And I could just smell that.

00:07:37.000 And when I went in my stance, I was like, whoop, whoop!

00:07:40.000 Like, this is something I was doing during sparring, like during my training camp.

00:07:43.000 So I was just triggering this muscle memory in my head.

00:07:46.000 And I was just having fun.

00:07:48.000 There's a point I looked at him, I kind of smiled like, fuck yeah, I got this.

00:07:51.000 And I just knew from that point, man.

00:07:52.000 I was on it.

00:07:53.000 And the first round, I thought I lost the first round without the knockdown.

00:07:56.000 Just like, I let him have it.

00:07:58.000 But then I watched it back.

00:08:00.000 I threw less strikes.

00:08:01.000 I landed more.

00:08:02.000 He threw more strikes and landed less.

00:08:04.000 All I was doing was just, and me and Eugene talked about this, like, let the first round, the first half of the fight, let's see what he does.

00:08:10.000 Just get all his attacks.

00:08:12.000 Make him show his hand.

00:08:13.000 Make him draw, you know, draw the attacks out of him.

00:08:17.000 And I did that.

00:08:17.000 And after I watched it again, I was like, yeah, without the knock, then I still had the round.

00:08:22.000 It was a brilliant performance, and the knockdown at the end of the first round was essentially the end of the fight.

00:08:27.000 He was fucked up.

00:08:29.000 There was a bad knockdown.

00:08:30.000 You could see when he went back to his corner, there's a moment where you see his eyes are just not quite there.

00:08:36.000 Even before the second round, he stood up, and when Kelvin rocked me, after I got rocked my first time being rocked in the UFC, In the second round, before the second round, I was like, alright, let's go.

00:08:48.000 Let's step it up.

00:08:49.000 He was looking at the screen.

00:08:50.000 Robert was looking at the screen like, what hit me?

00:08:52.000 What hit me?

00:08:53.000 And I was like, hey, hey, that's in the past.

00:08:56.000 That's done.

00:08:57.000 Focus on me right now anyway.

00:08:59.000 I was like, alright then, let's go.

00:09:03.000 When it was over, when they stopped the fight, you raised your hand, what's that feeling like, knowing that you're the undisputed champ?

00:09:10.000 It felt like just my title defense, honestly.

00:09:13.000 Atlanta was the one where they put my hand up and I felt like, yes.

00:09:17.000 Why Atlanta?

00:09:18.000 Why that?

00:09:18.000 Because the fight was so hard?

00:09:20.000 Yeah, I think because of the way the fight went, the back and forth, and then me, that fifth round.

00:09:25.000 I found out who I was after that fifth round.

00:09:29.000 I found out the depths I'm willing to go.

00:09:31.000 So when they put my hand up, and you're beat up and all that kind of stuff.

00:09:35.000 And also, I never had a belt before, so I've never had it wrapped around my waist as I visualize it.

00:09:40.000 So once that happened, boom, I felt like yes.

00:09:42.000 And also I was looking, I was like, please judges, don't screw me over.

00:09:45.000 Don't fuck me over on this, man.

00:09:46.000 And I knew I had it, but you know.

00:09:48.000 You never know.

00:09:48.000 Exactly.

00:09:50.000 Bruh.

00:09:50.000 Dude.

00:09:51.000 And then look at the Darren Till-Gaston fight.

00:09:53.000 So when they put my hand up, I was like, yes.

00:09:55.000 But then this time they put my hand up.

00:09:56.000 I was like, all right.

00:09:58.000 And the thing is, my brain wants to move forward, because I did it in kickboxing, because I was undefeated for so long, so it was always like, alright, cool, what's next?

00:10:06.000 I'll watch the fight maybe once, study it, alright, what's next?

00:10:08.000 But now I have to chill, relax, look at the tape, look at what you've done, and then soak it in, smell the roses for a little bit, and then move on.

00:10:19.000 Because once I had my first loss...

00:10:21.000 I took winning for granted because it was just a habit.

00:10:23.000 I was always winning, always winning, always winning.

00:10:25.000 So now I have to like, when you win, when you do something amazing, like I did in Atlanta, like I did in Melbourne, just chill.

00:10:32.000 Smell the roses and then move forward.

00:10:35.000 When you entered the fifth round against Kelvin, you said, I'm ready to die.

00:10:41.000 I looked at him, and I remember, I call it Ese Diablo.

00:10:44.000 He was looking at me, and he just had this look, and he's just swinging his hands.

00:10:48.000 And I said, you're not going to beat me.

00:10:50.000 I'm prepared to die.

00:10:52.000 And I meant that, man.

00:10:53.000 I swear to God on my life, I meant that.

00:10:55.000 I'm even getting goosebumps thinking, see that?

00:10:56.000 I'm getting goosebumps, too.

00:10:57.000 Like, I meant that shit, because I was like, look, and I signed my death warrant right there.

00:11:01.000 I was like, look, if this is how I die, this is how I die.

00:11:04.000 But, you see me, I was trying to get him.

00:11:06.000 I was trying to kill him.

00:11:08.000 I knew, because for me, if I'm ready to die, I'm ready to kill.

00:11:11.000 You have to be willing to give something up as well.

00:11:13.000 So in that fifth round when I was throwing those shots, I think I dropped him like four times or something crazy.

00:11:20.000 Even the last one went from heaven and hit him.

00:11:22.000 I wish I didn't follow and roll over on him because I probably could have got him out with like two seconds left.

00:11:28.000 But I was trying to get him out of there, man.

00:11:30.000 And it's sad to say, but if he had taken it to me and if he had done that to me and I didn't wake up, so be it.

00:11:39.000 Well, that was evident in the way you fought because it was a close fight, but it looked like you were ahead on the judges, but you didn't take any break at all.

00:11:50.000 You threw yourself into the fire instead of being cautious.

00:11:54.000 I told that to Dana.

00:11:55.000 Dana and I were talking about that fight, and he was talking about how hyped he is for Whitaker.

00:11:59.000 They tried to get me to fly to Australia.

00:12:01.000 I love you, bro, but I'm not doing that.

00:12:03.000 Don't do it.

00:12:04.000 Even me, like right now, I've canceled a lot of my trips because also, you know, my knee, but also just FOMO, being away from the gym, like, you feel it after a while, especially at this level.

00:12:13.000 Like, after the fight, because you can see the target on your back, people smiling in your face, you know?

00:12:17.000 Oh, yeah.

00:12:18.000 And then, yeah, I know what's up.

00:12:20.000 I'm not stupid.

00:12:21.000 I've seen a lot of people in this game rise and fall 100% all the time, so I want to get back to doing what I do best.

00:12:27.000 Dana and I have these conversations sometimes.

00:12:28.000 We get hyped up and talk on the phone, and we were talking about that fight.

00:12:32.000 And I said, do you know what he said?

00:12:33.000 You literally said it.

00:12:34.000 I have it as a highlight I made by myself.

00:12:38.000 And then I had it in the captions, and I was like, you know, you're going to beat me.

00:12:41.000 I'm ready to die.

00:12:42.000 I'm prepared to die.

00:12:44.000 That's some movie-type shit, man.

00:12:45.000 That is movie-type shit, especially when you win.

00:12:47.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:12:48.000 And Dana just went, holy shit.

00:12:50.000 I said, dude, watch it.

00:12:51.000 Just watch it again.

00:12:52.000 He's saying it.

00:12:52.000 I mouth it.

00:12:53.000 Yeah.

00:12:54.000 It was intense.

00:12:57.000 That was a hell of a fight, man.

00:12:59.000 That was a hell of a fight.

00:13:00.000 Yeah, I don't want to have much like those.

00:13:02.000 But you have to get that.

00:13:03.000 Because after that fight, probably about two minutes after, I was like, I can go another two rounds.

00:13:08.000 I felt it.

00:13:09.000 I was like, this is like the third wind.

00:13:10.000 Wow.

00:13:11.000 Oh, shit.

00:13:11.000 And I'm not just saying this to gas you up.

00:13:14.000 I was like, I can go another two rounds.

00:13:16.000 And you can see it.

00:13:18.000 I felt fresh, man.

00:13:20.000 This was my second, fifth, five-round fight.

00:13:23.000 When I fought this time last year against, what's his name?

00:13:26.000 On July last year, Brad Tavares.

00:13:28.000 Fifth round, I was just having fun.

00:13:30.000 I wouldn't say I took my foot off the pedal, but I was having fun with it.

00:13:34.000 And this fight, like I said, fifth round, I was ready.

00:13:36.000 And I said that for the Romero fight.

00:13:38.000 And what's his name?

00:13:39.000 Whitaker fight.

00:13:39.000 I said, look how he looked in the fifth round.

00:13:42.000 He's got gas.

00:13:43.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:13:44.000 He can crack.

00:13:45.000 Same thing with Romero.

00:13:45.000 But Romero and him, they don't have the same kind of spice as I do.

00:13:50.000 When I'm in the trenches, when it's time to go, I can go.

00:13:53.000 Because I do it in the gym every day.

00:13:55.000 You wanted Romero for your next fight.

00:13:57.000 There's resistance about that?

00:13:58.000 I'm a charitable guy sometimes, man.

00:13:59.000 I'm a charitable guy.

00:14:00.000 He's coming off three out of four losses, three in a row.

00:14:03.000 Yeah, but all of those could have been his.

00:14:05.000 Yeah, I know.

00:14:06.000 And also, the people, the casuals, they think this is the guy.

00:14:09.000 Well, first of all, I think Brunton was the guy.

00:14:12.000 And then Gaslam was the guy.

00:14:14.000 And then Whitaker is the guy.

00:14:15.000 So they think this is the guy to beat me.

00:14:17.000 So I'm like, all right, this is my charity work for the year.

00:14:22.000 Well, he's an interesting fight for anybody.

00:14:24.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:14:25.000 Because he's a freak athlete.

00:14:26.000 I mean, you look up freak in the dictionary, you see a picture of Yoel Romero flying through the air, hitting Chris Weidman with a knee.

00:14:32.000 I mean, he's just a freak.

00:14:34.000 I remember his first fight, I saw him, he did the same thing to this black guy, bald black guy, flying knee, boom, and just kind of starched him, just ran at him.

00:14:41.000 But...

00:14:43.000 This is what rises me to the occasion.

00:14:45.000 This is what challenges me.

00:14:46.000 Because a guy like that, like you say, he's a beast.

00:14:49.000 Same thing with Robert.

00:14:50.000 He's a beast.

00:14:51.000 But there's levels to this.

00:14:52.000 And if you can make that look easy, it just makes you look like your status.

00:14:57.000 Legendary.

00:14:58.000 All that shit.

00:14:59.000 That's what you want.

00:15:00.000 So you want to look easy against you.

00:15:02.000 This is nice, but it just looks good.

00:15:02.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:15:03.000 But it's all about the challenges.

00:15:05.000 Taking out Robert Whittaker in the second round in his home country.

00:15:08.000 You know, doing that to Romero, maybe not in Cuba, I don't know what the situation is like there, but like in Vegas, in a big arena, T-Mobile arena, that would be fucking dope.

00:15:18.000 Yeah.

00:15:19.000 But Dana said, you know, he's got to get a win first.

00:15:23.000 Thing is, they don't know how to sell it, like, to the people.

00:15:26.000 And I'm like, fuck it, let's do it anyway.

00:15:28.000 And I've said, and even his manager at the fights, for whatever reason, while I was walking, was like, hey, Israel, we signed the contract.

00:15:33.000 And I was like, I didn't know who it was.

00:15:35.000 And he was like, hey, we signed the contract.

00:15:37.000 Just tell Dana.

00:15:37.000 I was like, okay.

00:15:40.000 Had my drink in my hand, kept going walking.

00:15:42.000 Like, cool story, bro.

00:15:43.000 We signed the card.

00:15:44.000 What the fuck is that?

00:15:45.000 Dana said there's no deal.

00:15:46.000 Yeah, but he was trying to say, you know, it's the hype.

00:15:48.000 And then, like, someone might...

00:15:49.000 They sent me this other video of him in the gym saying, Israel, why you backing now?

00:15:53.000 Why you backing now?

00:15:54.000 You know?

00:15:55.000 Just tell Dana the fucking day.

00:15:56.000 I'm like...

00:15:57.000 I love you!

00:15:59.000 Israel, I love you!

00:16:00.000 He can love me all he wants.

00:16:01.000 He don't love me.

00:16:03.000 But I'm saying, like, I want to do the fight.

00:16:05.000 I said, look, this is a guy, right?

00:16:07.000 This is a guy, he's going to take me down and beat the fuck out of me.

00:16:10.000 Okay.

00:16:11.000 No one's been able to do that yet.

00:16:13.000 So let's see if this guy can do it, or let's see if I can take him down.

00:16:16.000 Well, the thing is, too, you have to get him now.

00:16:18.000 Yeah.

00:16:19.000 Because he's 41 now, I think.

00:16:21.000 40, 41?

00:16:22.000 He's old.

00:16:23.000 Yeah.

00:16:23.000 And that's Cuban years.

00:16:24.000 And that's what they're going to say.

00:16:25.000 Oh, you know, you beat up, you know...

00:16:27.000 He's still a beast.

00:16:28.000 He's still a beast.

00:16:28.000 I keep telling people as well.

00:16:29.000 When he fought Robert Whitaker, they didn't have that narrative.

00:16:32.000 No.

00:16:32.000 I think he beat Whitaker.

00:16:33.000 I think the second time he beat Whitaker.

00:16:34.000 Look how many times he dropped him, man.

00:16:36.000 He hurt him badly.

00:16:37.000 And if you look at those 10-8 rules, you know, the new rules, he won.

00:16:42.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:16:42.000 If you look at, you judge it by the new judging system, he won.

00:16:45.000 I thought he won, period.

00:16:46.000 I just thought he won.

00:16:47.000 I mean, and Whitaker's a fucking animal, man.

00:16:49.000 He hung in there with that guy blasting him on the chin, but he hurt him, and he hurt him bad several times.

00:16:55.000 But the Polo Costa fight...

00:16:58.000 Oh, my guy.

00:16:59.000 That's my guy.

00:16:59.000 That's your boy.

00:17:01.000 My favorite friend.

00:17:02.000 Live in la vida, Costa.

00:17:03.000 Let's go.

00:17:04.000 I felt like that fight was legit.

00:17:07.000 Either one could have got that title.

00:17:09.000 I think I agreed with it when Costa won.

00:17:11.000 I said, okay, I could see that.

00:17:13.000 But if they gave it to Romero, I would be like, well, I could see that too.

00:17:16.000 I think Costa won that fight.

00:17:17.000 I'll give Costa.

00:17:18.000 Like I said, he just stole it.

00:17:19.000 Just stole it.

00:17:20.000 Yeah, I think that's the way to look at it.

00:17:21.000 Just stole it.

00:17:22.000 When he dropped him in the first round, that really solidified it.

00:17:24.000 And Romero was trying his best to come back, but just a step behind.

00:17:28.000 In my eyes, anyway.

00:17:29.000 But like you said, hey, roll the dice sometimes.

00:17:33.000 The thing that's shocking about Romero is how well he takes a shot.

00:17:36.000 There's a picture of Costa kicking him in the head that I put on Instagram where it looks like his soul is leaving his body.

00:17:43.000 Like his eyes are rolling back in his head.

00:17:44.000 That shin is wrapping around his head.

00:17:46.000 His whole head is distorted.

00:17:48.000 I think it's the traps.

00:17:49.000 And he didn't flinch.

00:17:49.000 It's all those traps.

00:17:50.000 Yeah, he just holds his head in place, holds his brain in place.

00:17:52.000 Right, right.

00:17:53.000 Like the stem just doesn't move.

00:17:54.000 Well, you know, he had a pretty severe neck injury.

00:17:56.000 If you look at the back of his neck, he's got a giant scar up his neck.

00:18:00.000 For real.

00:18:00.000 He had his discs fused.

00:18:01.000 Look at that picture.

00:18:02.000 Damn.

00:18:02.000 What in the fuck, dude?

00:18:04.000 That sent his face into the fucking black hole of another universe.

00:18:07.000 Shit.

00:18:08.000 I mean, that is full impact.

00:18:11.000 You can turn the hip on that.

00:18:12.000 Yes!

00:18:13.000 It's all in.

00:18:14.000 Robert did one on him as well, but this is a lot cleaner, a lot nicer.

00:18:17.000 God damn.

00:18:18.000 I mean, he's taking giant shots.

00:18:20.000 I think Brunson hit him with a high head kick as well, wrapped around the neck.

00:18:24.000 Nothing.

00:18:25.000 I think his neck is like one solid piece.

00:18:27.000 It just goes right...

00:18:29.000 I don't know what the fuck they did in Cuba to his neck when they did that operation on it.

00:18:33.000 But he's all fused up and...

00:18:35.000 He's all kind of stiff!

00:18:36.000 Does he?

00:18:37.000 I've seen him around.

00:18:38.000 Especially when he's not cutting weight.

00:18:39.000 He's tight.

00:18:40.000 He's a heavy boy.

00:18:41.000 He's huge.

00:18:42.000 But...

00:18:43.000 You know he can move for 43. He can move.

00:18:45.000 He's real flexible.

00:18:46.000 I've seen.

00:18:47.000 Very flexible.

00:18:47.000 I've seen him doing the splits when he was doing that dance on one clip.

00:18:50.000 That Cuban Olympic program is no joke.

00:18:52.000 When he described it, he came on with Joey Diaz.

00:18:55.000 Did you watch that one?

00:18:56.000 I saw bits of it.

00:18:56.000 It was amazing because Joey was translating from Cuban to English and they were talking about the program.

00:19:01.000 They just train them and they put them in this situation where if you win, you get more food and you get a better place to stay.

00:19:10.000 And if you lose, you get two meals a day if you lose, you get three meals a day if you win.

00:19:14.000 And these guys, they're competing against the best in the world.

00:19:17.000 And it's just every day is battle, battle.

00:19:21.000 You know, he's like, everybody I'm with wants to kill me.

00:19:24.000 And you become a machine.

00:19:27.000 I'm a machine!

00:19:29.000 It's just like, you know, and you see the dude.

00:19:31.000 First of all, when you're sitting across from him, you're like, okay, with you, I know you're heavier than 185 pounds, but it's feasible.

00:19:37.000 What do you like?

00:19:38.000 What do you walk around at?

00:19:39.000 Like 200?

00:19:39.000 Right now, I guess 203. Yeah, that's feasible.

00:19:43.000 Yoel looks like he's 220. America, you got to realize, man.

00:19:46.000 The food.

00:19:47.000 Oh my god.

00:19:47.000 Like, I forget every time.

00:19:49.000 You gotta order small.

00:19:50.000 Because you order nachos, like, large.

00:19:52.000 They come in in a platter.

00:19:54.000 Yeah, people like to get fat over here.

00:19:56.000 We like everything big.

00:19:57.000 Luckily, metabolism for me is good.

00:19:58.000 You like it, yeah.

00:19:59.000 We like everything big over here.

00:20:01.000 Everything outrageous.

00:20:03.000 Yeah, this is an outrageous country.

00:20:05.000 Exhibit A. Yeah, exhibit A. Blowtorch.

00:20:10.000 Well, you were saying even drinks.

00:20:12.000 They pour bigger drinks over here.

00:20:13.000 Yeah, like...

00:20:14.000 I'm surprised.

00:20:15.000 I think it's part of the culture as well.

00:20:17.000 You say a double, they're like, no, it comes in a double.

00:20:19.000 I'm like, oh, double-double?

00:20:21.000 And then literally you have to ask for more Coke or more Fanta or whatever.

00:20:25.000 The ice helps though, man.

00:20:28.000 Do you like New Zealand?

00:20:46.000 And that was the moment I decided that this is where I'm going to stay.

00:20:49.000 This is the country I'm going to live in.

00:20:50.000 Because I always had this idea that I'm going to go to Canada or America eventually.

00:20:54.000 But also because my gym's over there.

00:20:55.000 My team's over there.

00:20:56.000 Eugene's over there.

00:20:57.000 My family.

00:20:58.000 I've made friends there.

00:20:59.000 I've grown up there.

00:20:59.000 It's my other country.

00:21:01.000 So I love it over there.

00:21:02.000 I love the vibe as well.

00:21:03.000 It's a beautiful country.

00:21:03.000 You haven't been there?

00:21:04.000 I haven't been.

00:21:05.000 I want to go.

00:21:05.000 I saw Chad Mendes went through.

00:21:07.000 And go to Big Red.

00:21:08.000 Yeah, you go out there.

00:21:09.000 You can catch something, man.

00:21:10.000 That's like a 13-pointer I counted before.

00:21:13.000 Yeah, you can get some shit.

00:21:14.000 Yeah, they have giant stags over there.

00:21:16.000 I just imagine like that with something that's 800 pounds behind it.

00:21:20.000 Yeah.

00:21:21.000 Or what is that?

00:21:21.000 1,000 pounds?

00:21:22.000 Something crazy?

00:21:22.000 Yeah, that one that I have out in the front was over 1,000 pounds.

00:21:24.000 Shit.

00:21:25.000 The one when you walk in?

00:21:26.000 Yeah.

00:21:26.000 He was huge.

00:21:27.000 I've seen some next to cars as well on YouTube.

00:21:28.000 Just get some perspective.

00:21:30.000 Yeah.

00:21:31.000 Yeah, fuck all that.

00:21:31.000 Have you eaten any of that?

00:21:32.000 See, I told you the story.

00:21:34.000 This maid.

00:21:35.000 What was the place?

00:21:36.000 Costco.

00:21:37.000 I asked her, I was going to go to Utah.

00:21:38.000 Not Utah.

00:21:39.000 I was going to go to Alex Volkanovski's fight.

00:21:41.000 So I asked her, where can I go get a chili bin?

00:21:43.000 And I went to Costco while they were cleaning out the Airbnb.

00:21:46.000 And I also had some Nigerian food I ordered as well from Texas.

00:21:50.000 So when I got back, raxed everything.

00:21:53.000 And I was like, fuck.

00:21:54.000 And then you text me how to cook it and everything.

00:21:56.000 And my coach, Eugene, because I really wanted to, he's an avid hunter.

00:21:59.000 Like, after fights, first place, he goes in the bush.

00:22:01.000 Because he wants to get away from all this.

00:22:03.000 So I was like, I gotta share this with him.

00:22:06.000 And then, yeah, they racked it, man.

00:22:07.000 I'm sure they kept it.

00:22:08.000 They threw it in the bin.

00:22:09.000 I'm sure they kept it, but I hope they enjoyed it.

00:22:11.000 Yeah.

00:22:12.000 Yeah.

00:22:12.000 But I got to try some milk one day, definitely.

00:22:13.000 I will.

00:22:14.000 Anytime, man.

00:22:15.000 Anytime you're around here.

00:22:16.000 Appreciate that.

00:22:16.000 We want to set up a kitchen in here, in the studio.

00:22:19.000 This is like the new Fantasy Factory, you know?

00:22:21.000 Like, actually, you walk around, and I'm like, man, I need one of these.

00:22:24.000 You do need one of these.

00:22:25.000 Yeah.

00:22:26.000 Have a gym, and right next to the gym, a fun house.

00:22:28.000 Yeah.

00:22:29.000 Yeah, you know?

00:22:30.000 It's good to have everything where I can do it all in one place, too.

00:22:33.000 Yeah.

00:22:33.000 Because me, I just don't have any time.

00:22:35.000 Yeah, so you need everything right there.

00:22:36.000 Yeah, it helps.

00:22:37.000 I can come in here two hours before a show, get a full workout in, shower, everything, even sauna.

00:22:42.000 Nice.

00:22:42.000 You know, get it all done in one spot.

00:22:44.000 If you got a kitchen, definitely.

00:22:45.000 I could have made me a sandwich or something.

00:22:47.000 Yeah, man.

00:22:47.000 We got a little baby kitchen, but we got to set up a grill in here.

00:22:51.000 What I was getting about New Zealand is the beauty, man.

00:22:54.000 There's something, I think, that when people think about places and places to live, you think, oh, it's convenient.

00:23:00.000 This is an easy commute.

00:23:02.000 It's a nice apartment or it's a nice house, whatever it is.

00:23:05.000 But there's something about natural beauty that And it doesn't really get much more beautiful than New Zealand.

00:23:11.000 And the South Island as well.

00:23:13.000 The North Island's cool.

00:23:14.000 There's some spots.

00:23:15.000 There's a lot of places.

00:23:16.000 For me, I travel all around the world.

00:23:18.000 But whenever I fly in and I see the Sky Tower, and you can see the landscape of the place, it's beautiful.

00:23:24.000 And I feel like Marshall when he sees the hills and he's about to go for a hike.

00:23:28.000 I'm just like, yes, almost home, almost home.

00:23:30.000 But like, it's such a beautiful place.

00:23:33.000 Queenstown, the South Island, the snow there.

00:23:35.000 I haven't been, but I've seen everyone posting about it.

00:23:38.000 But one day I'm going to go.

00:23:39.000 There's snow in New Zealand?

00:23:40.000 Fuck yeah.

00:23:41.000 Oh yeah?

00:23:41.000 Yeah.

00:23:41.000 Mount Ropehu, that's where I've been snowing, snowboarding years ago.

00:23:45.000 Wow.

00:23:45.000 South Island I've been to years ago when I was younger, like 12. But definitely as an adult, I got to go.

00:23:51.000 It's different when you go with your parents and when you go in as an adult.

00:23:53.000 So I got to go out there, man.

00:23:54.000 It's fucking beautiful.

00:23:55.000 It's a crazy place when it comes to wildlife because they brought it all from Europe.

00:23:59.000 Yeah, they did.

00:24:00.000 Even, like, I'm surprised.

00:24:00.000 In Auckland, there's an island called Waiheke Island.

00:24:04.000 It's probably about a 20-minute ferry ride from the city.

00:24:08.000 And there's wallabies on there.

00:24:10.000 I had no idea.

00:24:11.000 And apparently, they're an invasive species because the guy brought them from Australia.

00:24:15.000 But then, luckily, they're kept on the island now.

00:24:17.000 But I've heard rumors now they've kind of found their way because, you know, some crazy fuck decided, I'm going to keep this.

00:24:22.000 Of course.

00:24:23.000 And then...

00:24:23.000 They found their way to like Rotorua, the Redwoods and all that kind of shit.

00:24:27.000 It's always some crazy fuck that wants a pet.

00:24:29.000 I know.

00:24:30.000 Florida's got a giant problem with that.

00:24:32.000 Yeah, with anacondas.

00:24:34.000 What do you call it?

00:24:36.000 What's that guy?

00:24:37.000 Tarzan guy.

00:24:38.000 He catches them all the time.

00:24:40.000 Iguanas.

00:24:40.000 Iguanas as well.

00:24:41.000 There's a lot of them and they're killing them now.

00:24:43.000 Yeah, they're culling them.

00:24:44.000 They give you money if you kill iguanas.

00:24:46.000 Really?

00:24:47.000 Yeah, because they're digging under houses.

00:24:48.000 They dig tunnels under houses as the foundations collapse.

00:24:52.000 I didn't even know they dig.

00:24:53.000 I thought they were just in trees.

00:24:54.000 I thought so too.

00:24:55.000 Yeah, you learn something new every day.

00:24:57.000 Apparently they dig.

00:24:57.000 They have so many pythons there.

00:24:59.000 They said there's no more rabbits.

00:25:00.000 There's no more marsh hares, raccoons, deer.

00:25:04.000 Everything's gone.

00:25:05.000 All pythons.

00:25:06.000 Pythons are eating alligators.

00:25:07.000 Yeah.

00:25:07.000 Oh yeah, I've seen.

00:25:08.000 I see them and they burst out.

00:25:10.000 I see their legs sticking out and shit like that.

00:25:11.000 They even found Nile crocodiles in the Everglades.

00:25:15.000 Really?

00:25:15.000 Some crazy fuck.

00:25:17.000 Some asshole brought a Nile crocodile.

00:25:19.000 Yeah.

00:25:19.000 They have a kill on sight warning.

00:25:21.000 Isn't it like, was it Texas?

00:25:22.000 They have more tigers?

00:25:24.000 Yep.

00:25:25.000 Or lions?

00:25:26.000 Yeah, that was my Netflix special.

00:25:27.000 There's more tigers in Texas than all of the wild of the world.

00:25:32.000 Crazy.

00:25:33.000 Yeah.

00:25:33.000 Texas is so crazy.

00:25:37.000 Do you spend much time out there?

00:25:39.000 I've been there, when I first went there was when I think when I first met you, UFC 192, DC Gustafson.

00:25:47.000 Yeah, I was there.

00:25:48.000 It was a good time.

00:25:49.000 I didn't really, I just ate.

00:25:51.000 That's what I did there, just eat and hang out.

00:25:53.000 Barbecue.

00:25:53.000 Yeah.

00:25:54.000 Barbecue in Texas.

00:25:54.000 See, Dan was cutting away.

00:25:55.000 This was when he was at Featherweight.

00:25:56.000 Oh.

00:25:57.000 Yeah.

00:25:58.000 He fucking had me.

00:25:59.000 I don't know how the fuck that guy ever made Featherweight.

00:26:00.000 Bro, he, like, I ask him, how you feeling?

00:26:02.000 He's like, I feel great.

00:26:03.000 I'm like, yeah, you feel great.

00:26:04.000 I was hooked.

00:26:06.000 That was a mark.

00:26:07.000 That was a mark.

00:26:08.000 Afterwards, he's like, nah, I don't have to lightweight.

00:26:10.000 And you see him at lightweight now.

00:26:11.000 Much better.

00:26:12.000 Bro, I'm telling you, he's the one.

00:26:14.000 He could be.

00:26:15.000 I've seen some things, man.

00:26:17.000 He's a tough guy.

00:26:18.000 I've had him on my back for four minutes of a five-minute round sparring, and he's hard to get off.

00:26:23.000 And he's good.

00:26:25.000 Some people in the gym, they shine, and some people under the bright lights, they shine.

00:26:29.000 Some people can do both.

00:26:30.000 And I'm telling you, yeah, he's the one.

00:26:32.000 People don't know yet.

00:26:33.000 There's some things he hasn't shown of his game that I'm sure that...

00:26:38.000 So I was in the room when DC and John Anik were doing the fighter...

00:26:43.000 What do you call it?

00:26:45.000 Interview.

00:26:45.000 So I did my one first, and then they did Dan.

00:26:49.000 Dan was telling me, like, John asked about the champs.

00:26:53.000 How would you beat Khabib?

00:26:55.000 And he said he just saw DC go.

00:26:59.000 Like lean in like what?

00:27:01.000 And then he had to kind of just say some bullshit, whatever.

00:27:05.000 DC asked me to help him train for the Jones fight, the second one.

00:27:09.000 And I turned it down because they had Rockhold in their camp.

00:27:13.000 And I wasn't in the UFC at the time, but I knew.

00:27:15.000 I don't want to give them anything.

00:27:17.000 Right.

00:27:17.000 I don't want to give them anything.

00:27:18.000 I don't want them to say, oh, he came to our camp like I did with Black Zillions.

00:27:21.000 And then they say, oh, you know, we see holes in this game, which is all bullshit.

00:27:25.000 But yeah, I just...

00:27:27.000 You just don't want the chat.

00:27:27.000 I don't want anything.

00:27:28.000 I want nothing.

00:27:29.000 I don't want to give them nothing.

00:27:30.000 Yeah.

00:27:30.000 Yeah, because I always knew this was coming.

00:27:32.000 So I was like, plan it.

00:27:33.000 Plot your way.

00:27:33.000 But you and I talked on Instagram years ago.

00:27:36.000 2014. Yeah.

00:27:37.000 Yeah.

00:27:37.000 And we were talking.

00:27:38.000 I was like, when am I going to see you, bro?

00:27:40.000 Yeah.

00:27:40.000 But hey, I said, give me my time.

00:27:41.000 Let me work.

00:27:42.000 Yeah.

00:27:42.000 And I've been working, man.

00:27:43.000 I've been working.

00:27:44.000 Well, I pay attention.

00:27:45.000 I pay attention to dudes who shine.

00:27:46.000 Thank you, sir.

00:27:47.000 Outside.

00:27:48.000 I know guys who are coming.

00:27:49.000 I know guys who are coming up.

00:27:50.000 But I knew you had been thinking about MMA. And I've been a fan of you as a kickboxer.

00:27:54.000 Yeah.

00:27:55.000 I've been working about it.

00:27:56.000 Well, I'm always fascinated by elite specialists that make their way into MMA. Because I'm always like, well, how is this going to translate?

00:28:02.000 I think that it seems harder...

00:28:05.000 It seems harder for a lot of grapplers who don't have a background in striking.

00:28:09.000 I mean, I think grappling can be the most important thing in MMA because if you can't stop a guy from taking you down, you're going to lose.

00:28:17.000 But you have to start every fight on your feet.

00:28:20.000 And when you see a guy who doesn't have good striking fight a guy who has elite striking, like a good example this past weekend was Kevin Lee versus Gregor Gillespie.

00:28:30.000 Gregor Gillespie is a fucking fantastic wrestler, elite wrestler, and Kevin Lee's a better striker.

00:28:35.000 And you see that every fight, and Kevin Lee has a wrestling background too, so it's no picnic taking that guy down, but you see when a guy's a better striker, has more weapons, and then Gregor gets high-kicked.

00:28:46.000 It's a different kind of feel.

00:28:47.000 And also one thing Eugene and Andre, my wrestling coach, alluded to is people forget the takedowns, the wrestling starts way before the clinch.

00:28:56.000 It starts way before you get taken down or way before you engage.

00:28:59.000 It's all about positioning, foot positioning.

00:29:02.000 It's all about distance control.

00:29:04.000 So once you have that and you understand the principles of that, your wrestling becomes easy.

00:29:10.000 I don't know if it's the highest takedown defense percentage in the UFC's middleweight division.

00:29:15.000 It's pretty goddamn good.

00:29:16.000 It's high.

00:29:18.000 The only time was in my second fight when the guy in the third round, I didn't break the grip and he sucked my leg in immediately after.

00:29:25.000 Because I normally room with Andre.

00:29:27.000 He just kind of told me what to do.

00:29:28.000 I was like, okay, ever since that, in training, no one ever gets that on me.

00:29:32.000 Oh, really?

00:29:32.000 Rarely gets that on me.

00:29:33.000 So, I'm always improving, man.

00:29:35.000 Like I said, even right now, FOMO. I feel like fear of missing out because I see everyone training at the gym.

00:29:40.000 You keep saying FOMO. Oh, fear of missing out.

00:29:42.000 That's it.

00:29:42.000 Yeah, it's an acronym.

00:29:44.000 Yeah.

00:29:44.000 That's what the kids are saying.

00:29:45.000 I know the kids say it, but I never bothered looking at what it means.

00:29:48.000 It's fear of missing out.

00:29:49.000 So, like, I see, like, on the group chat what the team's doing and I see them working the 10 a.m.

00:29:54.000 squad.

00:29:54.000 Shout out to the 10 a.m.

00:29:55.000 squad where they at.

00:29:57.000 And you start feeling it?

00:29:58.000 Yeah.

00:29:58.000 I'm just like, yeah, 100%.

00:30:00.000 Especially, like, Just the young guys coming up, you know?

00:30:03.000 I see it, and I'm not stupid, man.

00:30:05.000 I know the target's on my back.

00:30:07.000 It's easy to get this, but it's hard to keep it.

00:30:08.000 So, yeah, I want to make sure I'm...

00:30:11.000 I want to do what Demetrius did.

00:30:12.000 I want to do what Silva did, you know?

00:30:14.000 I want to be one of those guys who just racks it up, get all the Infinity Stones.

00:30:18.000 All the gems.

00:30:19.000 Now, what happens if they overrun the outside of this thing with gems?

00:30:24.000 Give me a new belt.

00:30:25.000 They used to give you a new belt every time.

00:30:27.000 I know.

00:30:27.000 I'll stop putting these ones, all the gems on these bits.

00:30:30.000 Guys like Stipe, Stipe has a shitload of belts.

00:30:32.000 It would have been cool.

00:30:33.000 I was looking forward to that.

00:30:34.000 I might.

00:30:35.000 I'm sure I can buy some of that.

00:30:37.000 Talk to somebody.

00:30:39.000 What did you think about the BMF belt?

00:30:43.000 Yeah, it's a touchy subject, right?

00:30:45.000 I felt like, well, I like the idea.

00:30:47.000 The fact that Nate Diaz, he ain't no West Coast gangster from Miami, whatever.

00:30:53.000 We're good to go.

00:31:11.000 As a title fight for Diaz, McGregor won.

00:31:15.000 So, that fight itself would have been fine without the belt, without the rock, without all that kind of stuff.

00:31:20.000 But, it happened.

00:31:22.000 And, yeah, it's cool.

00:31:23.000 What's going to happen now?

00:31:24.000 Is he going to defend it?

00:31:24.000 Because even the ego in me is like, I don't know.

00:31:28.000 Ha ha ha!

00:31:31.000 What are you doing?

00:31:31.000 What are you doing, Masvidal?

00:31:33.000 But like, I mean, there's no point.

00:31:34.000 Because are they going to defend the belt?

00:31:35.000 Are they going to...

00:31:36.000 I don't know.

00:31:37.000 Yeah.

00:31:37.000 Well, I feel like Masvidal is championship caliber.

00:31:39.000 I might put some fucking spinners on this now and then do like John Cena and call this the freestyle belt.

00:31:44.000 You know?

00:31:45.000 Like, yeah.

00:31:46.000 You know, I see what you're saying, but...

00:31:49.000 I feel like Masvidal's world championship caliber.

00:31:52.000 Fuck yeah, 100%.

00:31:52.000 100%.

00:31:52.000 I've been a fan of that guy since way back.

00:31:55.000 Everyone's just finding out now.

00:31:57.000 All these guys are like, oh, Street Jesus.

00:31:58.000 I'm like, well, I'm not a hipster.

00:31:59.000 I knew him before.

00:32:00.000 He was cool, man.

00:32:01.000 I don't want to be that guy.

00:32:03.000 But I like his resurrection.

00:32:04.000 I like the fact that he rebranded himself.

00:32:07.000 Because you have to do that.

00:32:07.000 I see it in movies.

00:32:08.000 I see actors do it, entertainment.

00:32:10.000 You rebrand yourself, new package, and then boom.

00:32:13.000 Do you know what happened with him?

00:32:15.000 He said he went away.

00:32:16.000 He did this reality show in South America.

00:32:18.000 Yeah, so I watched it, but he said he went away and had time to himself.

00:32:21.000 Smart man.

00:32:21.000 Yeah.

00:32:22.000 Well, what happened was, he was on this reality show, and Dan Lambert said it was a terrible, terrible experience.

00:32:27.000 He's by himself all day, no phone.

00:32:29.000 He had to go into the village to get food.

00:32:31.000 There's no fucking food.

00:32:32.000 Where was the island?

00:32:33.000 I forget.

00:32:33.000 Somewhere in South America.

00:32:35.000 Okay.

00:32:35.000 But the experience was, it was several months, and it was a disaster.

00:32:38.000 And he didn't like it at all.

00:32:39.000 And then it...

00:32:41.000 He forced him to think about where he's at, where he could be.

00:32:46.000 And one of the things he was saying is all these split decisions.

00:32:48.000 And he was thinking, why did it go that way instead of the other way?

00:32:53.000 Why did I lose that fight instead of win it?

00:32:55.000 Because there was a lot of them that were really close.

00:32:56.000 And he was thinking, well, maybe I could have done a little bit more and won that fight.

00:33:00.000 And then he said, why am I thinking like a fucking peasant?

00:33:03.000 He goes, why don't I just knock that motherfucker out?

00:33:06.000 And so that shift in his mentality changed.

00:33:10.000 And then all of a sudden he mercs Donald Cerrone, mercs Darren Till, mercs Ben Askren.

00:33:14.000 Beats the fuck out of Nate Diaz.

00:33:16.000 He's a different person now.

00:33:18.000 And now he's what he could have been.

00:33:20.000 He is potential realized.

00:33:22.000 He's like a rebirth.

00:33:23.000 He's at 100%.

00:33:24.000 He's at 100% right now.

00:33:25.000 You get in the cage with that guy.

00:33:28.000 He's even thinking about boxing with Canelo.

00:33:29.000 Yes!

00:33:30.000 My man, crazy.

00:33:31.000 Yes!

00:33:31.000 It was interesting.

00:33:33.000 Fucking cajones, man.

00:33:35.000 Cajones to the guy.

00:33:35.000 He's got them all.

00:33:36.000 I mean, his thought is like, hey, man, I can do more than Conor McGregor did, and I'm not going to fade.

00:33:41.000 Yeah.

00:33:42.000 He can.

00:33:42.000 And I think, because I watched the fight again.

00:33:44.000 It's different when you watch it live.

00:33:45.000 When I was watching it live, I saw Diaz coming back, and he was in the third round.

00:33:49.000 And I was swinging towards Diaz like, oh, maybe he won that round.

00:33:52.000 But I watched it back and I'm like, nah, he had all three.

00:33:54.000 And Diaz was, like I said, he was coming back.

00:33:57.000 But on the scorecards, yeah, I think he already had it.

00:34:00.000 In a couple of those rounds, you could make an argument for 10-8s.

00:34:03.000 He beat the fuck out of Diaz in that first round.

00:34:05.000 I think he hit him in the gut.

00:34:06.000 And Diaz, tactical move, vet move, just dropped down.

00:34:09.000 Just dropped down.

00:34:10.000 So he's like, all right, come with my guard.

00:34:11.000 Because he probably got hurt to the body.

00:34:13.000 I heard one of them.

00:34:14.000 It was nasty, man.

00:34:15.000 100%.

00:34:15.000 That right body kick.

00:34:17.000 Yeah.

00:34:17.000 It slipped because Diaz tried to block it on you, and it just went right underneath it.

00:34:21.000 And the thing I hate as well, inspiring, is when you kick the elbow.

00:34:23.000 You ever tried that?

00:34:24.000 It sucks.

00:34:25.000 Yeah, I broke my foot doing that.

00:34:26.000 Everybody does.

00:34:27.000 Oh, really?

00:34:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:27.000 Fuck my foot.

00:34:28.000 I cracked it doing that as well.

00:34:29.000 The tip of the elbow is so hard, and the top of your foot is so soft.

00:34:33.000 It takes a real skill, like Darren Till has it as well, where they can sneak it underneath.

00:34:37.000 It's a different angle.

00:34:38.000 Eugene taught me how to do it, so...

00:34:40.000 Yeah, I love it.

00:34:41.000 I love it.

00:34:41.000 It's one of my moves.

00:34:42.000 I hit Tavares with it as well before I swept him.

00:34:45.000 You have to learn how to sweep just right underneath.

00:34:48.000 You got your eye on Till?

00:34:49.000 Till now is 185 pounds.

00:34:52.000 Interesting guy.

00:34:53.000 I saw him last year on the press conference leading up to the Bronson fight.

00:34:57.000 I even said, look, I can't wait till we do it, man.

00:34:58.000 I know one day we'll clash.

00:35:00.000 And it's just because of the styles.

00:35:01.000 Styles make fights.

00:35:03.000 And he's got a style that I like.

00:35:06.000 Very basic.

00:35:07.000 But when I say basic, I don't mean that with disrespect.

00:35:10.000 I say he's got strong basics.

00:35:12.000 He's a southpaw.

00:35:14.000 He's a nice straight left.

00:35:15.000 Nice body kick.

00:35:16.000 Curves the left.

00:35:17.000 He knows how to change it up.

00:35:18.000 And then the clinch as well when he gets close.

00:35:19.000 I like what he did with Gastelum.

00:35:21.000 He played the distance game well.

00:35:23.000 I learned it in the third round.

00:35:25.000 I kind of learned it in the fight.

00:35:26.000 But Gastelum was doing something to get close.

00:35:29.000 What happened in the third round?

00:35:30.000 No, in the third round, I knew where his...

00:35:32.000 Like, right after the fight, me and Eugene watched the fight.

00:35:34.000 We're like, fuck, that's what he did.

00:35:35.000 That's how we got so close.

00:35:36.000 And we knew already.

00:35:37.000 But it was hard to call it in the fight because we were too focused on other things.

00:35:41.000 But I think automatically through muscle memory, I was able to take that distance away from him in the fight.

00:35:47.000 From the third round.

00:35:48.000 But for the first...

00:35:49.000 I think for the first round and some of the second round, he was able to like use...

00:35:52.000 It's a little hop step.

00:35:53.000 Everyone knows it now.

00:35:54.000 It's a little hop step.

00:35:54.000 He'd jab me, jab me, put it in my face.

00:35:57.000 It's like a little...

00:35:59.000 So you're calculating his movement.

00:36:01.000 Yeah.

00:36:02.000 I'm not doing it this way.

00:36:03.000 I'm doing it like, you know, it's muscle memory.

00:36:06.000 Right.

00:36:06.000 Memory.

00:36:07.000 It's your memory of fights and sparring and knowing what you can do versus knowing what you see him doing.

00:36:12.000 Yeah.

00:36:13.000 And just like, it's like a dance.

00:36:14.000 So he comes this way.

00:36:15.000 That's super hard to explain to people.

00:36:17.000 They don't understand.

00:36:17.000 While you look at a guy and you're like, listen to me, that guy's going to fuck that guy up.

00:36:20.000 And people go, what are you talking about?

00:36:22.000 I'm like, listen to me.

00:36:23.000 When Anderson Silva first fought Chris Lieben, I remember the odds were real close.

00:36:28.000 And I pulled a friend on my side and said, bet the house.

00:36:32.000 Bet the house on Anderson.

00:36:34.000 He goes, are you serious?

00:36:35.000 I go, bet the house.

00:36:36.000 I go, bet the house.

00:36:37.000 I go, this guy's an assassin.

00:36:40.000 This is a different thing.

00:36:41.000 You've seen a different thing.

00:36:42.000 I'm telling you.

00:36:43.000 This is one of the rare, the fucking sky has to fall for him to lose.

00:36:49.000 No one knew.

00:36:49.000 That's the thing.

00:36:50.000 No one knew who he was until that happened.

00:36:52.000 But I'd watch all those Caged Warriors fight when he was standing in front of Jorge Rivera and letting him punch him in the face.

00:36:57.000 He's just rolling with it, man.

00:36:58.000 Just rolling with it.

00:36:59.000 He did it to me as well.

00:37:00.000 People don't understand this.

00:37:01.000 And they said, ah, fucking casuals.

00:37:04.000 Casuals.

00:37:05.000 And a lot of experts as well have casual brains because they're like, you know.

00:37:09.000 Israel has no knockout power because he hit Henderson Silver in the face clean.

00:37:14.000 I'm like, you don't understand this.

00:37:15.000 Anderson is playing the game.

00:37:16.000 Me and him are playing this game.

00:37:18.000 So when I hit him, I didn't hit him clean.

00:37:21.000 I'm not trying to hit him where he is.

00:37:23.000 I'm trying to hit him where he's going to be.

00:37:26.000 But then he knows that as well.

00:37:28.000 So he'd anticipate that and then pause him.

00:37:31.000 The distance is just right, so it just nicks him.

00:37:34.000 There's a time I kicked him in the face, and I slowed it down to my Instagram.

00:37:37.000 Just went, and just, like, my toe, literally, you see my toes, they're ugly as fuck.

00:37:41.000 Like, it just nicked the top lip.

00:37:43.000 And I went, she's close, because I felt it.

00:37:46.000 I felt my toe nicking.

00:37:48.000 And we're playing this game.

00:37:49.000 But literally, I was trying to hit him where he's going to be.

00:37:51.000 But then he paused.

00:37:52.000 And then the punch would just...

00:37:54.000 So it looked cool.

00:37:56.000 But I was like, I didn't hit him clean.

00:37:59.000 We're playing this game.

00:38:00.000 And people don't understand.

00:38:01.000 People who've never fought, they don't understand that game you're playing.

00:38:04.000 Yeah, it was beautiful, man.

00:38:05.000 I love that fight.

00:38:06.000 I love that fight, too.

00:38:07.000 It was boring.

00:38:08.000 I was like, fuck.

00:38:08.000 That was iconic, man.

00:38:09.000 I wish he had left after that fight, man.

00:38:11.000 Because I wanted to be the one.

00:38:12.000 The people are silly.

00:38:13.000 People are silly.

00:38:14.000 That was a great fight.

00:38:15.000 Yeah.

00:38:16.000 But it's just people that don't have an appreciation for movement and what it takes.

00:38:20.000 Most people don't know shit about MMA. No, most people don't know shit about everything.

00:38:23.000 Exactly.

00:38:24.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people out there that are experts, air quotes, that don't know shit about what they're talking about.

00:38:29.000 The thing about Anderson and you is, God damn, I would have loved to see that fight when Anderson was 10 years younger and you are where you're at right now.

00:38:37.000 I'll tell you how it goes.

00:38:38.000 How's it go?

00:38:39.000 Same way it went.

00:38:41.000 You know why?

00:38:41.000 Why?

00:38:42.000 He's never had someone do to him what he's done to people.

00:38:45.000 Because what I was doing to him, making him jump, making him do...

00:38:49.000 Whenever he did this, that's all Fugazi.

00:38:52.000 That's all like, oh, you made me face...

00:38:54.000 Do you know what Fugazi is?

00:38:55.000 I've used it a few times.

00:38:56.000 Do you know what it means?

00:38:58.000 It's an interesting term.

00:38:59.000 There was a limousine company in New York, and they started writing bad checks.

00:39:03.000 And so those checks became Fugazi checks.

00:39:06.000 It's fake.

00:39:08.000 Is that Italian?

00:39:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:09.000 It was a limousine company called Fugazi Limousines.

00:39:14.000 Oh, so it's not a real word.

00:39:15.000 No.

00:39:16.000 Well, it is.

00:39:16.000 Is it an Italian word?

00:39:17.000 It became an expression.

00:39:18.000 Oh, I see.

00:39:18.000 It just became an expression.

00:39:19.000 Fugazi.

00:39:20.000 Yeah.

00:39:20.000 So what...

00:39:21.000 This company started writing bad checks, so anytime that something's fake, it's fugazi.

00:39:25.000 Oh.

00:39:26.000 Yeah.

00:39:26.000 Learn something new every day, like promo.

00:39:28.000 Yeah.

00:39:30.000 No, but like, yeah, so whenever I'd like feint him, or make him jump, or make him react, you know, like, ah, I got you, he'd like...

00:39:38.000 Right.

00:39:38.000 Trapping hands, kung fu, 52 blocks.

00:39:40.000 Right.

00:39:40.000 But there was no sauce to it.

00:39:42.000 He went through his career fighting really good fighters, great fighters, but never an elite kickboxer.

00:39:47.000 Yeah.

00:39:48.000 Never an elite world-class kickboxer, like a world championship caliber fighter like yourself.

00:39:52.000 Well, not a kickboxer, but definitely some, like you said, good fighters.

00:39:56.000 But the guys, all the guys that he beat of that era, they couldn't last in this era.

00:40:01.000 It's a different time now.

00:40:02.000 The game has changed.

00:40:03.000 The game keeps evolving.

00:40:04.000 And it, like...

00:40:06.000 How do I say it?

00:40:07.000 It's no disrespect, but it's just, if you had me in my prime right now, I'm not even in my prime, kind of in it.

00:40:14.000 How old are you now?

00:40:15.000 27?

00:40:16.000 Do you 30?

00:40:17.000 I know, I try.

00:40:18.000 You look good.

00:40:18.000 Thank you sir, likewise, likewise, likewise.

00:40:20.000 But yeah, it's just pretty much the game of inches, a game of fake, a game of, ha, gotcha.

00:40:27.000 And I do that better than him.

00:40:29.000 I feel that.

00:40:30.000 And, dude, this is a guy I've loved and I've fucking gagged and jizzed about him the whole fucking career.

00:40:36.000 Like, he's a fucking...

00:40:37.000 I use the wrong words.

00:40:38.000 Pause.

00:40:39.000 Play.

00:40:40.000 Fast forward.

00:40:42.000 I know what you're saying.

00:40:43.000 Literally, I've fanboyed over the guy his whole career.

00:40:46.000 And I've studied him.

00:40:47.000 I knew what he was going to do before he'd do it.

00:40:48.000 Like, when he tripped me, I was getting up.

00:40:51.000 And in my head, I was like, okay, here come that flying knee.

00:40:54.000 And then, whoop!

00:40:55.000 I did, like, literally, I pressed eject.

00:40:56.000 I was like, get the fuck out of Dodge straight away.

00:40:59.000 Like, honestly, I was like, I'm not...

00:41:01.000 And then he just hugged the case.

00:41:02.000 Like, at one point, even, I hit him in the tummy.

00:41:04.000 Oh, no, I hit him in the tummy.

00:41:06.000 And he touched me in the tummy.

00:41:07.000 And I was like, he goes, let me try.

00:41:09.000 I was like, no.

00:41:12.000 We didn't catch that.

00:41:13.000 Or even when, at one point, when he put his hands down, and, like, we were playing that game, and just went...

00:41:19.000 I went, stop doing that!

00:41:20.000 I threw my hands off.

00:41:21.000 I was like, stop doing that!

00:41:23.000 There's no one on this fucking planet, if you put your hands down and chin up, that I'll tell you stop doing that.

00:41:27.000 But no, hands down, chin up.

00:41:28.000 Keep doing that.

00:41:29.000 But for whatever reason, I said, stop doing that.

00:41:32.000 And I don't know why I said that.

00:41:34.000 That's a question I have to answer after I retire and see.

00:41:37.000 Because people are like, oh, did you hold back on Anderson?

00:41:39.000 I'm like, fuck no.

00:41:40.000 I rocked him in the first round.

00:41:42.000 And if I had deadened him, I was trying to.

00:41:45.000 I was trying to win, but...

00:41:47.000 I still have love for the guy and I respect the guy.

00:41:49.000 He might not feel the same, but he's a guy that...

00:41:52.000 I think he does.

00:41:53.000 And he told me, like, he let me know what to do.

00:41:56.000 He told me, like I said, don't lose focus.

00:41:57.000 And that's why even right now, like I said, FOMO, I'm like, you know, all this shit is cool.

00:42:02.000 This victory tour, you know, parading this shit around.

00:42:04.000 It's nice, but I want to work.

00:42:07.000 Yeah.

00:42:08.000 That's the attitude that makes champions.

00:42:10.000 100%, man.

00:42:10.000 Was it weird being across the cage from him?

00:42:13.000 Knowing him like...

00:42:14.000 Only one moment.

00:42:15.000 There was one moment and it was in the third round and he went to the...

00:42:18.000 He's like, come on!

00:42:19.000 Puts his back against the fence.

00:42:21.000 It's what he did to Bisping.

00:42:22.000 And he front kicked him in the face.

00:42:23.000 He's like, come on!

00:42:24.000 Come on!

00:42:25.000 It's okay!

00:42:25.000 And then I kind of sat there.

00:42:26.000 And at one point I was just stood there.

00:42:28.000 I was like, I'm going to wait too.

00:42:29.000 And it was maybe like seven seconds but there's this split second in there that I was just like, holy shit.

00:42:36.000 I'm fighting Anderson Silva.

00:42:38.000 Yeah.

00:42:40.000 I'm like, fuck off.

00:42:41.000 Nah, this is my time.

00:42:42.000 And I begged him.

00:42:42.000 I was like, nah, he's right here.

00:42:43.000 Then he came to the center of the cage.

00:42:45.000 And then we kept it going.

00:42:46.000 Look at right there.

00:42:47.000 This right here is going to live forever.

00:42:50.000 Goddamn that picture.

00:42:51.000 Look at that picture.

00:42:52.000 After I'm done fighting with what I'm going to do in this game.

00:42:54.000 Oh my God.

00:42:55.000 It's for moments like this.

00:42:56.000 Fuck the belt.

00:42:57.000 It's iconic moments that, you know, like Ali over Sonny Liston.

00:43:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:43:01.000 I got that at home framed.

00:43:03.000 Signed by Muhammad Ali.

00:43:05.000 Wow.

00:43:05.000 Yeah.

00:43:29.000 What is this anime series, Naruto?

00:43:31.000 I've only seen it online.

00:43:33.000 It takes too long.

00:43:33.000 It's a 720 episode fucking...

00:43:36.000 720 episodes?

00:43:38.000 Yeah.

00:43:39.000 So this bit right here, he takes the weight off.

00:43:41.000 He takes the weight off.

00:43:43.000 You can watch the highlights.

00:43:44.000 And then, literally, there's some heavy-ass weights.

00:43:46.000 But he fucks up Gaara.

00:43:48.000 But I did the stance Rock Lee normally does.

00:43:50.000 I did the stance that he normally does in the weigh-ins.

00:43:53.000 And Anderson stood there like Gaara.

00:43:55.000 But he probably doesn't even know...

00:43:56.000 What that is.

00:43:57.000 Well, he just stood there like this.

00:43:59.000 And shit like that, it's a Taiju to fight.

00:44:01.000 It's just like when life imitates art without even trying.

00:44:04.000 You know what I mean?

00:44:05.000 And I edited it.

00:44:06.000 I got some guys, you know, shout out to Cut Craft and Blackburn FX. They edited it for me to make it look the same as this.

00:44:12.000 But literally, yeah, shit like this jazzes me up, man.

00:44:15.000 I'm geeking out right now.

00:44:16.000 Fucking nerd.

00:44:18.000 Shout out to Jon Jones.

00:44:19.000 Do you call you a nerd?

00:44:21.000 Yeah.

00:44:22.000 I know.

00:44:23.000 Oh, my feelings.

00:44:26.000 Nerd is not negative, man.

00:44:27.000 Of course.

00:44:28.000 I'll take it.

00:44:29.000 I'm a fucking nerd.

00:44:29.000 I got nunchuck skills, bow hunting skills, all that.

00:44:32.000 There's nothing wrong with being a nerd, man.

00:44:35.000 I mean, nerds run the world.

00:44:36.000 Fuck yeah.

00:44:36.000 Look at Elon.

00:44:37.000 Yeah.

00:44:38.000 Nerds run the fucking world.

00:44:39.000 For real.

00:44:40.000 I keep telling kids, man, like, don't peak in high school, man.

00:44:42.000 Especially the nerds.

00:44:43.000 I've told them.

00:44:44.000 I've spoken to some schools now, and I just tell them, like, look...

00:44:47.000 And New Zealand's got the highest youth suicide rate in the world.

00:44:50.000 And it's because a lot of these kids, literally, yeah, they think this is going to be forever.

00:44:55.000 Like, whatever they're feeling, the depression, being bullied, being fucked with.

00:44:58.000 And it's different now because of all this shit.

00:44:59.000 Yeah.

00:45:00.000 Like, you know, depression, whatnot.

00:45:02.000 Social media.

00:45:03.000 People attacking you.

00:45:04.000 And I just tell them, like, look, it's going to be fine.

00:45:06.000 This isn't forever.

00:45:08.000 At the end of the day, they will peak now.

00:45:10.000 Like, when I go back...

00:45:12.000 To where I grew up in Rotorua, when I see some of the kids that used to fuck with me, I'm like, I was scared of you.

00:45:19.000 Right.

00:45:19.000 Like literally, even when I close my eyes now, because I had a late growth spurt, I can see them, I visualize them, and I still see them as bigger than me.

00:45:26.000 But when I go back, they're like short and dumpy and got like five different kids to three different baby mamas and working at the same job for the last 12 years.

00:45:35.000 And I'm just like, man, you were in the first 15 rugby team.

00:45:39.000 You were the man.

00:45:40.000 I thought you was the man.

00:45:42.000 But, no, I'm the man.

00:45:44.000 But I never feel any kind of way of it.

00:45:45.000 I don't feel...

00:45:46.000 Only two of them ever apologize, but I don't feel like...

00:45:48.000 Because I'm petty.

00:45:49.000 You know, I got chips and dips on my shoulder.

00:45:51.000 I'm that guy.

00:45:52.000 But I don't feel the type of way where I have to, like, shit on them.

00:45:54.000 Because I understand kids are cruel.

00:45:56.000 Kids are dumb.

00:45:56.000 And I see it this day and age.

00:45:57.000 I see it.

00:45:58.000 Like...

00:45:58.000 They don't even know what they're doing while they're doing it.

00:46:00.000 They're just fucking angry little chimps with hormones and they don't know what's happening.

00:46:04.000 Bad instruction.

00:46:05.000 I know.

00:46:05.000 I would have told myself, don't think with your penis.

00:46:08.000 That's the best advice I give young men because no one tells them that.

00:46:10.000 No one.

00:46:11.000 Jerk off first, then think about it.

00:46:13.000 100%.

00:46:13.000 That's what I tell them.

00:46:14.000 What's this No Nut November bullshit, man?

00:46:15.000 Oh, that's nonsense.

00:46:16.000 What?

00:46:16.000 That's a good way to make this giant mistakes.

00:46:17.000 I lost on the first day.

00:46:19.000 Three times.

00:46:22.000 Fuck all that, man.

00:46:23.000 I'm buzzing, man.

00:46:24.000 Exactly.

00:46:24.000 All that tantric shit.

00:46:25.000 You gotta let it go.

00:46:26.000 They try to keep it inside their body.

00:46:28.000 That's nonsense.

00:46:29.000 Because then it's age jizz.

00:46:31.000 Like, if you haven't jizzed after a while, when you jizz, look at it.

00:46:34.000 Yeah, it's like whiskey.

00:46:35.000 Yeah.

00:46:36.000 Like, dry age.

00:46:37.000 Lock time.

00:46:38.000 Lock time.

00:46:41.000 I'm not going to drink this.

00:46:43.000 I know, I feel bad about drinking it now.

00:46:45.000 It's alright.

00:46:45.000 Yeah, what is that?

00:46:46.000 No Nut November.

00:46:47.000 Get out of here.

00:46:48.000 That's a good way to stay confused.

00:46:49.000 Yeah.

00:46:49.000 You're going to make a lot of bad choices that month.

00:46:51.000 Yes!

00:46:52.000 Yeah.

00:46:52.000 How many times have guys made bad choices?

00:46:54.000 I was trying to explain this to a woman.

00:46:56.000 She was saying that men are assholes and they pretend to be someone just so they can fuck a girl.

00:47:01.000 And then after they fuck a girl, then you see who they really are.

00:47:03.000 I go, listen, they don't even know who the fuck they are.

00:47:05.000 I go, when a guy's telling you that they're in love with you, they mean that in that moment.

00:47:10.000 And then they come, and then they're like, what?

00:47:12.000 What did I do?

00:47:13.000 I gotta get out of here.

00:47:15.000 It's not that they're being deceptive to you.

00:47:18.000 They're being deceived as well.

00:47:20.000 I had a whole bit about it that when you have a bonnet, you are in the backseat of a very long bus, and there's another dude driving the bus.

00:47:28.000 You're like, where the fuck is he going?

00:47:31.000 Reckless.

00:47:32.000 Yeah, you're watching your life take place through a windshield 50 feet away from you.

00:47:36.000 That's what it's like for men.

00:47:38.000 Don't do it, man.

00:47:39.000 I agree.

00:47:39.000 You jerk off first and you go out with a girl if you really enjoy her company.

00:47:43.000 Nut-Nut November.

00:47:43.000 Yeah, Nut-Nut November.

00:47:45.000 Wait, who won this thing, by the way, the Sober October?

00:47:47.000 We didn't have a championship this year.

00:47:49.000 Did it?

00:47:50.000 Just for friends.

00:47:51.000 Yeah, we just had a thing where you had to do 10 classes and read 500 pages of any books.

00:47:56.000 Okay.

00:47:57.000 We just decided.

00:47:58.000 That's cool.

00:47:58.000 See, that's something you can get behind.

00:47:59.000 Yeah.

00:48:00.000 Last year was too crazy.

00:48:01.000 We're doing cardio seven hours a day.

00:48:03.000 I watched that.

00:48:03.000 Between Tommy and Machine.

00:48:05.000 Yeah.

00:48:06.000 Yeah, because he was doing some crazy shit to try and lose weight.

00:48:08.000 Yeah, they were all trying to lose weight.

00:48:10.000 Bert, I told him if he gets down to 205, he could have the sober October belt.

00:48:15.000 What's he right now?

00:48:16.000 He's about 250. 300?

00:48:18.000 Yeah.

00:48:18.000 You can't lose in that weight.

00:48:19.000 All you have to do is lose the weight and get the belt.

00:48:21.000 I mean, I told him.

00:48:22.000 He's having fun.

00:48:23.000 I'm going to go.

00:48:24.000 He goes, like, we're now about 235. I go, dude, there's guys who fight in the 205-pound division that weigh 235 on Tuesday, and they fight on Saturday, and they weigh in on Friday at 205. I go, you can do it.

00:48:34.000 You can do it.

00:48:35.000 But, you know, discipline.

00:48:37.000 Burt's going to Burt.

00:48:39.000 Yeah.

00:48:39.000 It's a discipline issue.

00:48:43.000 I think he's coming to New Zealand as well.

00:48:44.000 Is he?

00:48:45.000 I can't remember.

00:48:47.000 Birdie Boy tour?

00:48:48.000 Yeah.

00:48:48.000 Machine tour or something.

00:48:50.000 I need to get a gig out there.

00:48:51.000 Oh, definitely.

00:48:52.000 My man, Tony Angeloff, said if you want to come through, he can suss it out.

00:48:55.000 Okay.

00:48:56.000 Yeah.

00:48:56.000 He's looking forward to it, but he said get in contact with him.

00:48:59.000 I was like, I don't know.

00:49:00.000 What I should do is do a gig and then take a few days and go hunting.

00:49:04.000 Okay.

00:49:05.000 Bro, you'd love it, man.

00:49:06.000 Even if you take your kids and just, like, there's a lodge out there.

00:49:08.000 Oh, yeah?

00:49:09.000 It's really expensive, but I'm sure for you, they'll cut you out.

00:49:12.000 Okay.

00:49:12.000 Yeah, easy as.

00:49:13.000 It's a nice spot.

00:49:14.000 And they'll take you to one of these ranches where, you know, you can get...

00:49:17.000 Either, like, my advice, go with Eugene.

00:49:20.000 I won't even come.

00:49:21.000 Like, go with Eugene.

00:49:22.000 He knows, like, some shit.

00:49:23.000 And he knows the skills as well.

00:49:24.000 Or you can go to these ranches where they have it for you where you can get one of those.

00:49:28.000 Like, a big red.

00:49:29.000 Yeah.

00:49:29.000 Like, my first time I shot one dead was a big red.

00:49:32.000 And I remember, like...

00:49:34.000 We're downwind.

00:49:34.000 We tracked it.

00:49:35.000 It took ages.

00:49:36.000 And you're surprised how the guy who owns the land, old man, but he was fucking kicking our ass, man.

00:49:41.000 Like, me and you usually fit.

00:49:42.000 But he's just like a mountain goat, just trekking, trekking.

00:49:45.000 They get used to hiking.

00:49:46.000 It's nothing to do.

00:49:47.000 They do it every day.

00:49:47.000 And then I get there, and then it takes about maybe 10 minutes, because they're all there in the herd feasting.

00:49:53.000 And then we flanked it properly.

00:49:55.000 Was it downwind?

00:49:56.000 We're upwind away from it.

00:49:58.000 That's the one.

00:49:59.000 You don't want them to smell it.

00:50:00.000 You want to be downwind, so the wind is coming to you.

00:50:02.000 Yeah, so they can smell us.

00:50:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:50:04.000 And then I remember like, hit it, boom, right there.

00:50:08.000 You hit it with a rifle?

00:50:09.000 Yeah, rifle.

00:50:09.000 Yeah.

00:50:10.000 Yeah, I don't know how to use a bow yet.

00:50:11.000 Yeah.

00:50:12.000 But then, yeah, yeah.

00:50:13.000 You want to learn?

00:50:13.000 Yeah, Cameron said he wanted to hit me up.

00:50:15.000 Cameron's going to hook you up?

00:50:15.000 Yeah.

00:50:15.000 He said, wait, in time, in time.

00:50:17.000 Anytime.

00:50:18.000 I want to fight first.

00:50:19.000 I want to get this done.

00:50:20.000 I'll arrange that.

00:50:20.000 Oh man.

00:50:21.000 But then she dropped right there.

00:50:22.000 Darren dead.

00:50:23.000 And then I went up there and me and my boy Rod as well, my tattooist, he shows me how to like section it up.

00:50:29.000 And then there's a slinky in there.

00:50:30.000 Like that's, we call that the baby.

00:50:32.000 So you take that out.

00:50:33.000 Slinky?

00:50:34.000 Yeah, it's like the baby there, the infant that's in there.

00:50:36.000 Oh, you've shot a female?

00:50:37.000 Yeah, female.

00:50:38.000 Yeah, so she dropped there.

00:50:39.000 They call it a slinky?

00:50:40.000 Yeah, right there.

00:50:41.000 I think they call it a slinky because of the way it moves, I'm assuming, so.

00:50:43.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:50:44.000 Yeah, so you dispose of that because the pig is going to eat it.

00:50:47.000 It's going to go back to the earth, all that kind of stuff.

00:50:49.000 That was the first day, and that was my big red.

00:50:51.000 And the next day, we're going.

00:50:53.000 We're on the fucking, what do you call it, the ATV. And then out of nowhere, we see two fallows, the smaller ones, and they're up on the ridge.

00:51:00.000 And then my coach, Doug, Doug Viney, he's a K-1 champion as well from Vegas, right now?

00:51:04.000 And then I shot it.

00:51:06.000 And I didn't hit this one this clean.

00:51:08.000 So then we have to trek all the way up.

00:51:11.000 All this kind of shit.

00:51:13.000 What do you call them?

00:51:15.000 Stinging needle.

00:51:16.000 Fucking annoying.

00:51:17.000 And then get up to it and you see it trying to like...

00:51:20.000 Oh, the vegan's gonna hate me for this.

00:51:22.000 But then I was like, oh shit, okay.

00:51:25.000 And then...

00:51:25.000 You gotta finish it off.

00:51:26.000 Yeah, I have to do the right thing.

00:51:28.000 So I get the rifle, right?

00:51:29.000 And I'm there.

00:51:30.000 And I'm looking at it.

00:51:31.000 And then...

00:51:32.000 I'm looking through the scope.

00:51:34.000 And then Doug's like, this is after about 30 seconds.

00:51:37.000 You alright?

00:51:37.000 I was like, yeah, hold up.

00:51:38.000 Just have to...

00:51:39.000 I was like, you're not scared of you.

00:51:41.000 I'm like, nah.

00:51:42.000 But then I realized, the shit's fucking two feet in front of me.

00:51:45.000 I'm using the scope.

00:51:46.000 Oh, you couldn't see it?

00:51:48.000 Oh, yeah.

00:51:49.000 Doof!

00:51:49.000 Yeah.

00:51:50.000 And that was it.

00:51:50.000 She was done.

00:51:51.000 You couldn't find the scope.

00:51:52.000 Scopes are weird.

00:51:53.000 If you get too close, you're all fucked up.

00:51:54.000 Well, it was just like a brain fart moment because I was just used to using the scope.

00:51:58.000 So I'm like, why the fuck are you using the scope when the thing's right there in front of you?

00:52:00.000 So I just hit it.

00:52:01.000 Boom.

00:52:01.000 Point blank.

00:52:02.000 Dead.

00:52:03.000 I had to do the same thing in the first DR shot.

00:52:05.000 Stop suffering.

00:52:06.000 But then one thing I really enjoyed was afterwards when you have to section it right there.

00:52:10.000 And this is the thing, man.

00:52:11.000 If you can't...

00:52:12.000 My personal philosophy is if you can't kill what you eat, don't eat meat.

00:52:16.000 Don't touch it.

00:52:17.000 Because you don't understand where it comes from.

00:52:19.000 And eventually one day, kind of like what you have now, you have your own operation.

00:52:22.000 I want to have my own operation.

00:52:23.000 I want to have...

00:52:24.000 My own, like, land, my own property where I can just like bang, bang, bang.

00:52:30.000 Freezer, stock it up.

00:52:32.000 Pigs.

00:52:33.000 Organic meat.

00:52:34.000 Yeah.

00:52:35.000 And it's different, man.

00:52:36.000 It's a lot different, especially when you have to section it yourself.

00:52:39.000 The fallow I sectioned myself, the big one, I gave to my butcher friend to make, like, garlic sausages and salami, all that kind of stuff.

00:52:45.000 It's beautiful.

00:52:46.000 And then, yeah, Rod taught me how to section the, you know, you use your hands wet, you put it through the skin, and it acts like a knife.

00:52:55.000 Oh, it separates the soft tissue?

00:52:56.000 It's actually a good technique.

00:52:58.000 And yeah, it was fun.

00:53:00.000 But it's been about two years now since I've been back in the bush, because, you know...

00:53:03.000 The nutrition, though, is so much stronger.

00:53:05.000 It's so good for athletes, for someone like yourself.

00:53:07.000 My God, that fallow deer and stag, that nutrition is as good as it gets.

00:53:12.000 Wild animals.

00:53:13.000 I think it was before the Brunson fight, because, long story, but after my debut, I'll go back to this, but like pretty much the Brunson fight before it was when I realized how you eat affects how you think and how you feel your mental health.

00:53:29.000 Oh, sure.

00:53:30.000 Because beforehand, before the fight, before I started cutting weight, I was eating like shit.

00:53:35.000 Like literally just because, you know, I cut weight easy, so I'm just eating everything and whatnot.

00:53:39.000 And then throughout that camp, I was getting, like, I hurt myself as well.

00:53:42.000 Remember, as I mentioned, I had to post-fight press conference, and then I had to take a whole week of training.

00:53:46.000 This is like five weeks out.

00:53:48.000 And I had to make the call, like, fuck, we're going to pull from this fight so we don't leave it too late so they can find a replacement.

00:53:53.000 Or take a whole week off, come back Monday, and then see how we feel.

00:53:58.000 And then doing that, I ate right.

00:54:00.000 I ate proper.

00:54:02.000 I was a little bit depressed and shit like that because of the way I was eating already.

00:54:04.000 But that week transitioned everything just because of the way I was eating and the way I looked after my body.

00:54:10.000 And then when I got back to camp, boom.

00:54:12.000 And I realized through that camp and also reading Charlemagne's book as well, The Shook Ones.

00:54:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:54:17.000 It kind of helped me.

00:54:17.000 I listened to it.

00:54:18.000 Yeah, I listen to it too.

00:54:19.000 I suck at reading.

00:54:20.000 Well, that's a good one to listen to too because it's read by him.

00:54:23.000 He's such an interesting orator.

00:54:25.000 Yeah, and the way he reads it, he's funny.

00:54:27.000 Because I listen to brilliant idiots as well.

00:54:28.000 Yeah, but he's honest.

00:54:30.000 I mean, for a guy like him to talk about being fucked up with anxiety, people are like, what?

00:54:35.000 You?

00:54:36.000 You're the guy who talks about crazy shit.

00:54:37.000 People don't understand, man.

00:54:39.000 Even my boy Chance, he's with me right now.

00:54:41.000 For me, I like to...

00:54:42.000 Because I'm on this journey now.

00:54:44.000 I like to take those that came up with me.

00:54:45.000 I bring them on this journey.

00:54:46.000 I went to Dubai.

00:54:47.000 I brought my brother with me so I can inspire him.

00:54:49.000 I went to Nigeria.

00:54:50.000 I brought AB with me because he's Nigerian.

00:54:53.000 I told him after this trip, like, be careful because you're going to, you know, holiday blues, you know, like when you come back from a holiday, you feel like, oh, and everyone, all these Instagram hosts post, take me back, you know, with their bikini shots and whatnot.

00:55:05.000 I told him, when you get back home, you're going to feel it.

00:55:07.000 And I know because I've experienced it as well.

00:55:09.000 After my UFC debut, I literally, my after party was three hours of just Hi, nice to meet you.

00:55:16.000 Hi.

00:55:16.000 At one point, I literally went to go hide somewhere, and some guy found me.

00:55:19.000 He's like, bro, you all right?

00:55:21.000 What are you doing?

00:55:21.000 I'm like, I'm good.

00:55:21.000 I'm just chilling.

00:55:22.000 I'm just taking five minutes alone.

00:55:23.000 He's like, oh, yeah.

00:55:24.000 He's like, now you understand, eh?

00:55:26.000 And just sat next to me.

00:55:27.000 I'm just like, fuck.

00:55:29.000 Alone means you not being here, motherfucker.

00:55:32.000 And then after I got home, like, you know, got a bonus, got a nice check from the UFC, and then got depressed.

00:55:41.000 And I'm just like, what the fuck?

00:55:42.000 Yeah, like, I'm home alone with my own thoughts, and I was like, what the fuck?

00:55:45.000 Why am I? I didn't get that.

00:55:46.000 I didn't understand this.

00:55:47.000 So even just because of everything that was happening, I started seeing a therapist straight away just because I felt like no one teaches you how to be famous.

00:55:53.000 There's no fucking book about this.

00:55:54.000 And I've seen a lot of people, athletes, movies, singers, rappers, rise and fall.

00:55:58.000 And I'm not going to be one of those people.

00:56:00.000 Good for you.

00:56:01.000 John Charles.

00:56:02.000 But um...

00:56:04.000 But then I went to a therapist from February to October just to kind of like learn some tools to help me with this.

00:56:11.000 And then so after my first fight, it happened.

00:56:13.000 My second fight, it happened.

00:56:13.000 My third fight, Brad Tavares fight, main event.

00:56:16.000 Fucking all the stimulus.

00:56:18.000 It's like coffee.

00:56:18.000 You drink coffee and then you get all the stimulus, your hype, and then you come off it and crash.

00:56:24.000 I equate it to the same thing.

00:56:27.000 And then, those tools that I got from my therapist really helped me just kinda like navigate back.

00:56:32.000 So New York was the first fight I got back to my house and I was just like, right, boom.

00:56:35.000 I know how to attack this.

00:56:36.000 I know what's gonna happen.

00:56:37.000 And I was anticipating, cause beforehand, Yeah.

00:57:01.000 What was the feeling of depression?

00:57:03.000 Because obviously you had this spectacular result.

00:57:06.000 You won.

00:57:07.000 But what was the feeling?

00:57:10.000 What was bothering you?

00:57:11.000 If I think about it, my debut, when I got back home, sit down, um...

00:57:18.000 It was just like...

00:57:19.000 I don't know.

00:57:21.000 Trust me, I love fucking the perks.

00:57:23.000 Fuck fame.

00:57:24.000 I don't like being famous, but I love the perks.

00:57:26.000 A lot of perks.

00:57:27.000 But when you get back home and I'm with...

00:57:30.000 That's why I like hanging out with my dogs and my cat, because they don't say anything.

00:57:33.000 I can just be.

00:57:33.000 I can just exist with them.

00:57:34.000 I don't have to entertain them.

00:57:35.000 I don't have to talk.

00:57:37.000 Country to popular belief, I'm not always extroverted.

00:57:39.000 I'm a cuss baby.

00:57:40.000 I'm a crab lion.

00:57:41.000 Cancer and Leo.

00:57:42.000 A crab lion?

00:57:43.000 Cancer and Leo, yeah.

00:57:47.000 But like, I can go, you know, both ways, you know, hard, soft.

00:57:50.000 Like a Sammy Chubb.

00:57:52.000 But you know.

00:57:52.000 Sammy Chubb!

00:57:54.000 But like, yeah, so I can, when I'm home by myself, I'm just very reserved.

00:57:59.000 I like to be in my own thoughts.

00:58:00.000 I like to be in my own space.

00:58:01.000 You know, like what Jorge had to do in Panama, or wherever he was.

00:58:05.000 And the feeling was just not, it's almost, I've heard of imposter syndrome.

00:58:12.000 I'm not sure if I'm saying it, if I'm using it right, but I don't know, I don't want to say that's what I had.

00:58:16.000 But like, you almost feel like you don't...

00:58:19.000 You don't belong.

00:58:20.000 Yeah, like I don't belong.

00:58:21.000 I don't deserve this.

00:58:22.000 I think everybody has that.

00:58:23.000 Yeah, so I had to go through that for my first fight, my second fight, my third fight.

00:58:27.000 And like I said, it wasn't until the Bronson fight, I just decided, fuck it, own it.

00:58:31.000 Because in New York, there's this clip on YouTube of this guy.

00:58:34.000 He's walking around Times Square, normal, just chilling.

00:58:38.000 No one pays attention to him.

00:58:39.000 And then he comes back at night time, and then he's hired a security camera crew.

00:58:46.000 He dresses the part, and he's walking around Triumph Square.

00:58:49.000 He's just a regular dude, like a YouTube content creator.

00:58:51.000 And then everyone's down to like, who's this?

00:58:55.000 Who's this guy?

00:58:55.000 Oh.

00:58:56.000 Oh, can I take a photo?

00:58:57.000 Yeah, cool.

00:58:58.000 Take a photo?

00:58:58.000 Yeah, cool.

00:58:59.000 And then, like, the camera guy goes up to random people and goes like, so how do you know, let's say his name's Brian.

00:59:03.000 How do you know Brian?

00:59:04.000 How do you...

00:59:05.000 And they're like, oh, I saw him in Spider-Man.

00:59:08.000 You know, yeah, I think it was pretty good.

00:59:10.000 You know, and then the guy would go to another guy, you know, so what do you think about his last album?

00:59:14.000 And be like, oh, I mean, I didn't hear the whole thing, but I heard a single on the radio and people just lying through their teeth.

00:59:20.000 Lying through their teeth about who the fuck this guy is when they don't even know who he was.

00:59:23.000 Right, right.

00:59:23.000 I experienced that at Deja Vu, fucking crazy, in Times Square, in New York, Madison Square Garden.

00:59:29.000 I experienced that in Times Square, like literally shooting for my brand Engage, shooting some shots for them.

00:59:34.000 So there's embedded crew around me, my crew around me, and I'm not even trying.

00:59:38.000 And at one point, I kind of just, because I'm always noticing everything around me, and I see people like, Some people recognize who I was, and then I saw people like, and I can hear them like, who is he?

00:59:47.000 And the same person come, hey man, big fan.

00:59:49.000 Yo, can I grab a pic?

00:59:51.000 I'm just like, alright, take a pic.

00:59:53.000 And the next person like, and you say, hi, can I get a picture?

00:59:56.000 And just take a picture.

00:59:57.000 And they don't know who the fuck I am.

00:59:58.000 They just know somebody likes you.

00:59:59.000 Exactly.

01:00:00.000 They just, oh, he's famous.

01:00:01.000 Boom.

01:00:02.000 And they just want to get that shine.

01:00:03.000 So shit like that kind of humbles you and lets you know it.

01:00:06.000 You can get caught up in all that shit, man.

01:00:08.000 I talk about hype a lot and I'm like, fuck it.

01:00:10.000 Just own it.

01:00:10.000 New York was when I decided, like, I'm not going to feel like I don't belong.

01:00:13.000 Just own it.

01:00:14.000 This is my life now.

01:00:15.000 Well, I think what you're doing is you're taking the mentality of a high-level striker and you're applying it to fame because you don't want to get caught in traps.

01:00:23.000 You want to see all the pitfalls.

01:00:26.000 Like if your chin's up, you drop your hand, if you have a tendency that someone can exploit, you got to go, oh, I'll make sure I mix this up, show them different moves.

01:00:35.000 You don't want to get caught in traps, right?

01:00:37.000 Yeah, I don't want to get caught, never.

01:00:39.000 Yeah, but that is also what happens with fame.

01:00:42.000 You get caught in your own traps.

01:00:44.000 You set your own traps.

01:00:45.000 Yeah, and I'll make my own mistakes.

01:00:46.000 I won't crash into a pregnant lady, but I'll make my own mistakes.

01:00:50.000 Sorry, I'm taking all the shots.

01:00:51.000 Good.

01:00:53.000 Come get it.

01:00:53.000 Well, when you and him started going after it, you and Jon Jones started going after it on Instagram, I was like, oh no.

01:00:58.000 Let it be known.

01:00:59.000 He started it.

01:00:59.000 Yes.

01:01:00.000 He started it.

01:01:00.000 Why did he start it?

01:01:01.000 I don't know.

01:01:02.000 What do you think it was?

01:01:02.000 I think I'm the freshman.

01:01:04.000 I'm the guy that he wishes he was.

01:01:05.000 And he's a fan.

01:01:06.000 Trust me.

01:01:07.000 He's a fan.

01:01:07.000 He's my biggest fan.

01:01:09.000 And I think he sees himself like, man, I could have been that cool if I didn't fuck all this up.

01:01:15.000 And he sees me like the new freshman, getting all the shine, getting all the hype.

01:01:19.000 But he's still the champ.

01:01:20.000 He is.

01:01:21.000 And he's still undefeated, really.

01:01:22.000 No one really cares about his fights.

01:01:24.000 He is.

01:01:24.000 Oh, fuck that man.

01:01:25.000 Hamill shit was bullshit.

01:01:26.000 And the man Hamill talking shit at him, talking shit at him.

01:01:29.000 And he was just trying.

01:01:29.000 He was just trying.

01:01:32.000 I mean, Matt Hamill's probably broke.

01:01:35.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:01:36.000 He hasn't fought in forever.

01:01:38.000 I get it.

01:01:40.000 He's undefeated.

01:01:41.000 He's a guy.

01:01:42.000 I think when I first watched him fight, Because I was a fan.

01:01:45.000 It was UFC 94, Penn versus GSP2, and he fought Stefan Bonner and just hit him with some stuff.

01:01:54.000 Hit him with that spinning elbow.

01:01:55.000 Hit him with that double overhook lateral drop.

01:01:58.000 Oh, shit.

01:01:58.000 And I'm just like, who the fuck's this guy?

01:02:00.000 Yeah.

01:02:00.000 You know?

01:02:02.000 You know, the comparisons were always going to be there, like with him and, oh, this is Silva with wrestling.

01:02:06.000 And when I came on the scene, oh, this is Jones with better striking.

01:02:08.000 I'm like, and I said it from the get-go.

01:02:11.000 I will outgrow those comparisons.

01:02:13.000 I was like, they're going to forget about this.

01:02:15.000 So now they're not comparing us.

01:02:17.000 They're saying, ooh, let's watch them fight.

01:02:18.000 I like the fight.

01:02:19.000 I said, this is July.

01:02:22.000 After the, I think it was the MMA Awards, I was in my hotel room, and allegedly I might have been stoned.

01:02:30.000 Allegedly?

01:02:31.000 Allegedly, I was fucking stoned.

01:02:32.000 And I was looking across, and I could see Raiders Stadium being built.

01:02:35.000 And I was like, for whatever reason, just decided, that's where it's going to happen.

01:02:39.000 It's such a fucking crazy fight, the way it's going to happen.

01:02:42.000 It's just, boom.

01:02:43.000 Boom.

01:02:43.000 Let him go to heavyweight.

01:02:44.000 I'll drag him back down.

01:02:45.000 I'll drag him back down.

01:02:46.000 And I said, like, 2021 is the time because I don't want to disrespect the game.

01:02:50.000 I'm not going to hold up the division.

01:02:52.000 The division will be held up long enough by Robert fucking being sick and being injured and, you know, Romero not making weight and all this shit.

01:02:58.000 I'm like, let me do what Silva did, which was honor the fucking code and actually be a champion and defend the belt.

01:03:03.000 So I'm going to do that.

01:03:04.000 I've done it once against Robert Whitaker, double interim champ.

01:03:07.000 So I'm going to do it again.

01:03:07.000 There's killers out there.

01:03:08.000 I even saw Kananir on the weekend.

01:03:10.000 And he's a fucking beautiful dude, man.

01:03:11.000 Such a nice guy.

01:03:12.000 He's a very nice guy.

01:03:13.000 What's up, brother?

01:03:13.000 How you doing?

01:03:14.000 He's a killer.

01:03:15.000 Exactly.

01:03:15.000 He's the dark horse.

01:03:16.000 He's the dark horse.

01:03:17.000 He is.

01:03:17.000 Everyone thinks Romero is.

01:03:18.000 Everyone thinks Costa is the one.

01:03:19.000 Nah.

01:03:20.000 He is the guy I'm like, I'm stalking him.

01:03:22.000 I've been watching him, man.

01:03:23.000 He's another guy that's made a shift over the last year and a half or so.

01:03:27.000 Jared's made a shift where he's just become more and more serious, more and more dangerous, and you watch him.

01:03:31.000 When he took out Anderson Silva and he fucked his leg up, you're like, Jesus.

01:03:34.000 Yeah.

01:03:35.000 He's on a mission.

01:03:37.000 He's on a mission.

01:03:38.000 I see him, man.

01:03:38.000 I'm not slipping.

01:03:39.000 They'll never catch me slipping unless I slip him and I rip him.

01:03:42.000 He's got fantastic genetics, too.

01:03:43.000 That guy's a tank.

01:03:45.000 See, I saw when he was fighting this guy at heavyweight.

01:03:47.000 He was heavyweight.

01:03:48.000 Yeah, he walked him down with his hands down.

01:03:50.000 Heavyweight.

01:03:51.000 Now he's 185 and shredded.

01:03:53.000 It's crazy.

01:03:54.000 Those guys that go all the way from heavyweight to 185, that's fucking phenomenal.

01:04:00.000 I think Roy Nelson should have done it, to be honest.

01:04:03.000 Yeah.

01:04:03.000 What do you think about that kid Edmund Shabazian?

01:04:06.000 I saw his fight.

01:04:07.000 I didn't know who he was until I think it was Tim.

01:04:10.000 I'm saying his last name right, right?

01:04:11.000 I think so.

01:04:12.000 Yeah.

01:04:13.000 What's his name?

01:04:14.000 Tim told me, like, oh, shit.

01:04:16.000 Then I rewatched the fight.

01:04:17.000 Did I see a life?

01:04:18.000 I can't remember.

01:04:19.000 Dude, he's 21 years old.

01:04:20.000 And he hit Brad Tavares with a head kick, and that kind of got my attention.

01:04:23.000 Like, oh, shit.

01:04:23.000 Who's this kid?

01:04:25.000 He starched him with that right hand.

01:04:26.000 And, you know, that's what I mean.

01:04:28.000 Like, he's at 185. He's 21. He's on the come up.

01:04:31.000 He just beat.

01:04:32.000 I played with Brad for five rounds.

01:04:34.000 He starched him in one round, you know?

01:04:36.000 I'm not taking that lightly.

01:04:38.000 I look at that kid.

01:04:40.000 Eventually, when he comes up, I'm sure I'll see him at some point.

01:04:43.000 But that's what I mean.

01:04:44.000 I need to get back to work.

01:04:45.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:04:46.000 I'm working.

01:04:47.000 I'm working.

01:04:48.000 You know the FOMO. I feel cunty as well if I don't train.

01:04:52.000 That is the thing of pressure.

01:04:54.000 That is the thing of pressure of being a champion.

01:04:56.000 I'll never forget when BJ Penn choked out Matt Hughes to win the title in 170. And I was interviewing Matt in the Octagon.

01:05:05.000 He was real honest about it.

01:05:07.000 He goes, I'm going to be honest with you.

01:05:08.000 This is a relief.

01:05:09.000 He goes, the pressure, the pressure of all these guys coming after me for so long.

01:05:14.000 He goes, I'm glad it's off my shoulders.

01:05:16.000 They're not used to it.

01:05:16.000 And that's why I said that about Robert.

01:05:18.000 I said it on record.

01:05:19.000 Like I said, he's not used to this.

01:05:21.000 Pressure is an acquired taste.

01:05:22.000 It's an acquired taste.

01:05:24.000 Not everyone likes it.

01:05:25.000 It's like caviar or a goosey or some, you know, like, exactly.

01:05:29.000 People don't understand it.

01:05:30.000 And for me, before the UFC, there's a hype.

01:05:34.000 You know, I jump in the UFC, do my work, hype, hype, hype all the way through.

01:05:38.000 And I said, I've been chopping this pressure for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

01:05:42.000 It's easy to me.

01:05:42.000 The guy's been away the whole time I've been running through the fucking division.

01:05:45.000 The time I've been staking my claim as the fucking champ.

01:05:49.000 And he's not used to this pressure.

01:05:50.000 And your comeback fight, you want to come up in the biggest show against me?

01:05:55.000 I wouldn't even, if I was a coach, 16 months is too long to put a guy against me.

01:06:01.000 And I said, he's not going to be used to it.

01:06:02.000 And he said, oh, you know, I don't care.

01:06:04.000 You know, this Israel fella is not as good as he thinks he is.

01:06:07.000 I was like, all right, watch this.

01:06:10.000 Well, the thing about the UFC is you don't get tune-up fights.

01:06:13.000 Nah.

01:06:14.000 They don't exist.

01:06:14.000 That's why I said I'm going to come here ready.

01:06:17.000 Because I know they're going to put me in the deep end.

01:06:19.000 They're going to put me against the guy.

01:06:20.000 So that's why me and Eugene had the plan, like, we've got to be ready for everyone.

01:06:23.000 Yeah.

01:06:25.000 To be honest, I'm glad it happened the way it happened.

01:06:28.000 I'm glad I didn't rush.

01:06:28.000 And people were like, oh, well, you're not the youngest champion in UFC's history.

01:06:32.000 I'm like, I didn't want to be.

01:06:34.000 That doesn't mean anything.

01:06:35.000 I'm glad all this shit happened to me not when I was 23 or 24 because I would have fucked up, done way worse shit.

01:06:41.000 But I'm happy that I matured.

01:06:43.000 I had my metamorphosis when I was 28. And that's when a shift happened for me.

01:06:47.000 That's when I became...

01:06:48.000 China helped a lot as well, like being away from my comfort zone, being in the mainland and...

01:06:53.000 Excuse me.

01:06:54.000 Hey!

01:06:54.000 My man.

01:06:56.000 Like, China helped me get ready for all this because being a big black man in the mainland, they don't really see people like us all the time.

01:07:04.000 Fighting in my first stadium show in China in front of 40,000 people, being mobbed in China, all that stuff.

01:07:09.000 I just use it as reps.

01:07:10.000 I was like, okay, this is all preparing me for this.

01:07:12.000 This is all preparing me for the big time.

01:07:14.000 So when this time comes, I got to be ready and I got to roll out.

01:07:16.000 Do you have a very wise way of looking at the future?

01:07:20.000 And I think that's what led you to getting therapy when you started feeling a little weird after your first fight.

01:07:25.000 I mean, that's very intelligent to seek help, to try to figure out, okay, there's got to be a good way to handle this and I need tools.

01:07:33.000 And there's a stigma around it as well.

01:07:34.000 Even when I mention it, I think I put on my Instagram story after my win against Robert Whitaker.

01:07:42.000 I went to a therapist that Monday.

01:07:44.000 The session was supposed to last maybe an hour and a half.

01:07:47.000 We finished in 30 minutes because I saw her two weeks beforehand, the week of the fight, and then I saw her after the fight and literally was like, cool, I think we got what we needed.

01:07:56.000 I'll see if I need you again.

01:07:57.000 But then people were like...

01:07:59.000 Oh, so brave, you know, come out and, you know, people with mental illness and, oh my God, hashtag.

01:08:06.000 I'm like, I'm not, is it not everyone is mentally ill, but everyone has to look after their mental health.

01:08:14.000 Yes.

01:08:14.000 Because if you don't, then you will get sick.

01:08:15.000 Yes.

01:08:15.000 Just like your physical health.

01:08:16.000 Yes.

01:08:17.000 If you don't look after, if I start eating shit, drinking all day, I'll get physically sick.

01:08:21.000 So if you don't look after your mental health, then you're going to get mentally ill.

01:08:24.000 A hundred percent.

01:08:24.000 Then they're going to put you in a straight jacket.

01:08:26.000 Yes.

01:08:26.000 Then all that, you know.

01:08:27.000 Yes.

01:08:27.000 You don't want that.

01:08:29.000 So for me, I just have to look after myself.

01:08:30.000 I don't want to end up like 2007 Britney, you know.

01:08:34.000 Oh, shaving your head.

01:08:35.000 Yeah, all crazy with them, brother.

01:08:37.000 You would look good with your head shaved, though.

01:08:38.000 I think she looked all right.

01:08:39.000 I would have smashed.

01:08:40.000 I would have as well.

01:08:42.000 But that's a thing where you're dealing with a young person.

01:08:45.000 And when you said about that you're not the youngest ever champ, I don't think it's good.

01:08:49.000 I don't think it's good to have that kind of unqualified success.

01:08:54.000 Not unqualified, you don't deserve it, but unprecedented.

01:08:57.000 At a young age like that.

01:08:59.000 Like Mike Tyson.

01:09:00.000 He'll talk openly about it, man.

01:09:01.000 I mean, now, have you hung out with Mike?

01:09:03.000 No, I was supposed to this week, but he's busy.

01:09:06.000 So, another time.

01:09:07.000 I look forward to it.

01:09:08.000 Dude, let's do the hotbox together.

01:09:10.000 For real?

01:09:11.000 Yes, I'm in.

01:09:12.000 I'm in.

01:09:12.000 Dude, he's a nice guy, man.

01:09:14.000 And he's so philosophical about his past.

01:09:18.000 And the way he's very...

01:09:21.000 This is garbage.

01:09:22.000 This is garbage.

01:09:23.000 I don't even like to think about who I was back then.

01:09:26.000 He doesn't like to even think about who he was.

01:09:28.000 He doesn't like to work out.

01:09:29.000 Because he doesn't want to bring that ego back into his life.

01:09:31.000 But then you see him with Francis Ngannou when he's ripping.

01:09:33.000 I know, yeah.

01:09:34.000 He still got it.

01:09:35.000 He still got it.

01:09:36.000 Listen, man.

01:09:37.000 But apparently he's going to train Francis.

01:09:39.000 Yeah, he said.

01:09:40.000 Yeah, that would be interesting.

01:09:42.000 Apparently Gypsy King is going to do MMA. I'd love to see it, man.

01:09:47.000 Once he gets that first leg kick, he's going to be like, what the fuck have I done?

01:09:51.000 No, you better get it before you get in the cage.

01:09:54.000 I'll say that.

01:09:54.000 Did you ever see Shannon the Cannon Briggs talk about when he fought in K-1?

01:09:58.000 I listened to that.

01:09:59.000 Oh, my God.

01:10:00.000 He's like, that first leg kick.

01:10:01.000 I was like, champ.

01:10:02.000 Oh, no, champ.

01:10:03.000 Didn't he spar?

01:10:05.000 I don't think he did.

01:10:06.000 I don't think he did.

01:10:07.000 I'm going to just take this and knock him out.

01:10:08.000 He fought Tom Erickson, big cat.

01:10:10.000 He was a big motherfucker.

01:10:11.000 A natural 290-pound dude.

01:10:13.000 Natural.

01:10:14.000 Oh, he's gigantic.

01:10:15.000 Fuck.

01:10:15.000 Erickson was huge.

01:10:17.000 That's a leg.

01:10:17.000 We have a guy at our gym, Carlos Alberg.

01:10:19.000 Like, beautiful, like, built motherfucker.

01:10:23.000 He kicks, because he's Samoan as well.

01:10:25.000 I think, yeah, full Samoan.

01:10:26.000 He kicks, and man, you don't want to hold pads for him.

01:10:30.000 If you have to hold VO2 max kickboxing for him, he can break arms, man.

01:10:34.000 I'm sure.

01:10:35.000 He used to be a boxer.

01:10:36.000 He only just learned how to kick.

01:10:37.000 And now, I've been watching him.

01:10:39.000 He's turning his hip over.

01:10:40.000 He's also a former King of the Ring champ as well.

01:10:42.000 Current King of the Ring champ.

01:10:43.000 But, like, literally, he, yeah.

01:10:45.000 Bones.

01:10:46.000 They got different bones.

01:10:47.000 Bone and muscle.

01:10:49.000 You don't want that.

01:10:50.000 I was at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu way back in the day in the 90s and I watched Pedro Hizzo kick the bag.

01:10:54.000 Yeah.

01:10:55.000 And he just...

01:10:55.000 There it is.

01:10:57.000 Pedro Hizzo was kicking the bag.

01:10:59.000 Pedro Hizzo's legs are both of my legs glued together.

01:11:02.000 They're so big.

01:11:03.000 I've seen them, man.

01:11:03.000 Even now.

01:11:04.000 Even now.

01:11:05.000 Still thick.

01:11:05.000 But he was, in my opinion, the best heavyweight in the history of MMA, the best heavyweight leg kicker.

01:11:11.000 Wow.

01:11:12.000 He would throw leg kicks and everybody would collapse.

01:11:15.000 Oh, yeah, man.

01:11:16.000 Hard Dog was a master.

01:11:16.000 What I used to like was his hip.

01:11:18.000 Oh, yeah.

01:11:18.000 He used to swing that hip.

01:11:19.000 Oh, yeah.

01:11:20.000 It's a different style, Dutch style.

01:11:21.000 Yes, yes.

01:11:22.000 But I still, I do mine.

01:11:24.000 There's many types of leg kicks.

01:11:25.000 People don't know.

01:11:26.000 Like, there's many types of jabs.

01:11:27.000 Yes, yes.

01:11:28.000 There's levels to this.

01:11:29.000 And he had this one where he'd, like, swivel his hip.

01:11:31.000 Like, he'd almost just, like a Barbie, like, take his leg and just, bop.

01:11:35.000 Almost like a low Brazilian kick.

01:11:38.000 Almost like a Feitosa kick, but low.

01:11:42.000 Feitosa did, he did the question mark kick better than anybody.

01:11:45.000 Who's that?

01:11:45.000 Remind me.

01:11:45.000 Glaube Feitosa fought in K1. Okay.

01:11:49.000 Go to Robin Black's Twitter page from today.

01:11:54.000 He posted a Glaube Feitosa KO. Glaube, I mean, everybody knew the question mark kick, right?

01:12:00.000 You go up the middle and then you go around this way to a head kick.

01:12:02.000 But Glaube will go, Up and down in this crazy way.

01:12:07.000 His hips swiveled.

01:12:09.000 He had the dexterity of that down in just this crazy way.

01:12:15.000 Because you would have your hands up in a good position.

01:12:18.000 He would come over your hands and drop down on your face at an angle.

01:12:23.000 I've done that before, inspiring, just like, this is years ago.

01:12:26.000 I did it, I won't say to who.

01:12:27.000 Did you see it on Robin's page?

01:12:28.000 He retweeted it earlier today.

01:12:30.000 He retweeted his own shit, which is hilarious.

01:12:33.000 Whenever you do that.

01:12:34.000 It's like when people are at you in your own comment, I'm like, it's my page, why you gotta at me?

01:12:39.000 I don't know.

01:12:39.000 It doesn't mean anything, but just fucking pet peeves.

01:12:42.000 I'm 100% giving up on reading my apps.

01:12:44.000 I don't read a goddamn thing that comes my way.

01:12:47.000 You're just spitting into the wind.

01:12:49.000 Once in a while, fight week is when I have time.

01:12:52.000 The best one was New York.

01:12:54.000 New York, I get there early.

01:12:55.000 And this guy was already bugging me.

01:12:56.000 Because you see in the notifications when you scroll up, I'm like, this guy again.

01:13:00.000 So I was like, alright, I got time today.

01:13:02.000 Boom.

01:13:02.000 I went at him, man.

01:13:04.000 Who was that?

01:13:04.000 Some fan?

01:13:05.000 Some fan.

01:13:06.000 And he was just like, hey, Israel, I went on his DMs and I started going back and forth with him.

01:13:10.000 And I screen recorded the interaction.

01:13:13.000 And then eventually after the fight, I think maybe about two weeks after I roasted and posted him, he changed his Instagram name.

01:13:20.000 Shit got reported.

01:13:22.000 I was like, oh, wrong person to fuck with.

01:13:25.000 Like Dana, sometimes if I have, if I got time today, I got time to like Jon Jones, same thing.

01:13:30.000 One day I just went at him because he was just going back and forth on Twitter.

01:13:33.000 No, back, he was going forth.

01:13:34.000 And I just kind of ignored him.

01:13:35.000 I was living my life.

01:13:36.000 And like sometime two weeks ago, I was just like, you know what?

01:13:38.000 Hold my beer.

01:13:39.000 Well, he's not coming.

01:13:40.000 He's not coming after you unless you're a threat.

01:13:42.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:13:43.000 There you go.

01:13:44.000 See, watch the video.

01:13:45.000 Play the video.

01:13:46.000 There it goes.

01:13:47.000 Now watch this left kick, man.

01:13:50.000 Dude!

01:13:52.000 I've seen that before in the K1 Ultimate Knockout Highlights.

01:13:56.000 But watch the motion of the kick when Robin breaks it down.

01:14:00.000 Sweat this.

01:14:01.000 Look at this.

01:14:02.000 Watch the final part.

01:14:03.000 Watch this shit.

01:14:04.000 Right here.

01:14:04.000 Watch this.

01:14:05.000 Come on, son.

01:14:07.000 Come on.

01:14:08.000 Who the fuck does that?

01:14:09.000 Glaube is the master of the question mark kick, to the point where they call it the Brazilian kick, man.

01:14:15.000 I mean, but he almost did it different than a question mark kick, because essentially he was making it look like he was throwing a body roundhouse kick.

01:14:22.000 He wasn't, like, the real question mark kick is like a front kick that you turn into a round kick, but Glaube was throwing it like he was throwing it to the body, and then last second, look at this shit.

01:14:32.000 Kuk.

01:14:32.000 Right here.

01:14:33.000 It's my favorite part.

01:14:34.000 I mean, this is like a whip.

01:14:35.000 What's his background?

01:14:36.000 Kyokushin?

01:14:36.000 Yeah, Kyokushin.

01:14:37.000 Look at this.

01:14:38.000 Come on, man.

01:14:39.000 He went over the guard.

01:14:40.000 Dude!

01:14:40.000 He went over the guard and just like...

01:14:42.000 Better than anybody at it.

01:14:43.000 Better than anybody.

01:14:44.000 And then, wah!

01:14:45.000 That fucking...

01:14:46.000 Yeah.

01:14:47.000 At the end.

01:14:47.000 Finish off.

01:14:48.000 Wah!

01:14:50.000 I mean, he had a weird way of moving his hips that you go, man, I don't know how many people can fucking move their hips like that.

01:14:57.000 Shakira.

01:14:58.000 Yeah, you gotta...

01:14:59.000 The hips don't lie.

01:15:00.000 Never.

01:15:01.000 Yeah, that was a...

01:15:03.000 I mean, sometimes someone just develops a way of doing a kick that's different than everybody else.

01:15:08.000 Yeah.

01:15:08.000 Even now, Eugene likes to make fun of me.

01:15:11.000 He's like, you're getting old.

01:15:12.000 I'm like, why?

01:15:13.000 He's like, it takes me about a week for my hips to warm up before the kicks start to happen the way it normally should.

01:15:20.000 I'm like, fuck it.

01:15:21.000 So he goes back and forth with me on that.

01:15:22.000 But I've been doing yoga for a while.

01:15:24.000 I kind of slacked off a little bit this camp, but...

01:15:27.000 Off-season, I'm gonna get back into it just because I'm 30 now.

01:15:31.000 I don't really feel old, though.

01:15:33.000 That's the thing.

01:15:34.000 Like, you're supposed to magically suddenly sneeze and blow your back out and all this shit.

01:15:37.000 That's when you're 40. Yeah, okay, exactly.

01:15:39.000 When you're 40, shit starts breaking.

01:15:40.000 The only thing I've noticed is just the hangovers take a whole day now.

01:15:42.000 That's all.

01:15:43.000 That's the only thing.

01:15:44.000 You gotta get some liquid IV. Yeah.

01:15:46.000 Oh, Vegas.

01:15:47.000 But I had to ask first because, you know, you saw that you can't handle plastic.

01:15:50.000 No, no, no.

01:15:50.000 Liquid IV is a drink.

01:15:51.000 Oh, yeah.

01:15:52.000 It's formulated.

01:15:53.000 It's called liquid IV. They just pour it into water.

01:15:56.000 Okay.

01:15:56.000 It rehydrates you much quicker.

01:15:58.000 Is it like a brand?

01:15:58.000 Yeah.

01:15:59.000 It's a sponsor of the podcast.

01:16:00.000 I'll get you some of it.

01:16:00.000 Hey, hook us up.

01:16:01.000 Hook us up.

01:16:02.000 What is it?

01:16:02.000 It hydrates you two to three times faster than water alone.

01:16:05.000 It's like drinking three bottles of water with minerals and stuff.

01:16:07.000 Please and thank you.

01:16:08.000 Yeah, it's very smart, scientific concoction.

01:16:11.000 I will take that.

01:16:12.000 Yeah, that'll help you.

01:16:13.000 Thank you, sir.

01:16:14.000 Yeah, man, there's a lot of little tricks you can do to get rid of the hangovers.

01:16:17.000 Glutathione's another one.

01:16:18.000 Glutathione is...

01:16:19.000 I've heard the name before.

01:16:21.000 Yeah, it's...

01:16:21.000 I don't know what the exact term, what kind of molecule it is specifically.

01:16:25.000 Glutamine?

01:16:26.000 What is glutathione exactly?

01:16:29.000 Glutathione.

01:16:29.000 But what it does is it helps your body break down alcohol at an accelerated rate.

01:16:34.000 And a lot of times people take it while they're drinking.

01:16:37.000 Or if you're hungover, just drink some more.

01:16:40.000 Because a hangover is just alcohol.

01:16:43.000 But I don't drink that crazy though.

01:16:45.000 I'm not like an alcoholic or nothing.

01:16:47.000 Well, Dr. Carl Hart explained that to me.

01:16:49.000 Yeah.

01:16:49.000 He said that what a hangover actually is, is your body's withdrawals from alcohol.

01:16:54.000 That's why people say, you know, what's that expression?

01:16:58.000 Something, the dog that bit you?

01:17:00.000 What is that?

01:17:01.000 Bite the hair of the dog?

01:17:02.000 Yes.

01:17:03.000 Bite the hair of the dog that bit you.

01:17:04.000 Yes.

01:17:05.000 Like, so when you're hungover, you have an extra, like a Bloody Mary.

01:17:07.000 That's what Bloody Marys are for.

01:17:09.000 Oh.

01:17:09.000 Bite the hair of the dog that bit you.

01:17:10.000 The hair of the dog.

01:17:11.000 Not bite the hair of the dog that bit you.

01:17:13.000 But the hair of the dog that bit you.

01:17:14.000 So you don't want the whole dog.

01:17:16.000 You just want a little bit.

01:17:17.000 It's just to get you over that hung hangover.

01:17:19.000 And that's what Bloody Marys.

01:17:21.000 Bloody Marys are like just a little drink in the morning.

01:17:24.000 Just a little bit with tomato juice and celery.

01:17:28.000 To pretend that you're fucking healthy and celery.

01:17:32.000 Mimosas at brunch.

01:17:33.000 I don't know how dudes live in Vegas and train in Vegas.

01:17:35.000 Yeah, fuck all that.

01:17:36.000 Last time I was there, holy shit.

01:17:38.000 So I was there in July for eight days.

01:17:41.000 The first three days, I did my testing at the PI. I was training, you know, no drinking, nothing like that.

01:17:47.000 And then the MMA awards happened.

01:17:51.000 The next five nights, fuck me.

01:17:53.000 I just wanted to leave, man.

01:17:55.000 But you can't help it because you're in there and then it's just like, oh yeah, cool.

01:18:00.000 You want to come to this club?

01:18:01.000 Yeah, we got VIP. Oh, we'll hook you up.

01:18:04.000 That's where Jorge said he saw me at the club shirtless.

01:18:08.000 It wasn't inside.

01:18:09.000 It was outside.

01:18:10.000 There was no women around me.

01:18:12.000 It was literally just people in the next booth.

01:18:14.000 But it just looks that way.

01:18:15.000 And he kind of added a little flavor, you know, of what I said.

01:18:18.000 But I didn't say...

01:18:18.000 All I said was, like, I know, you know, Yoel's your boy, but I want to see him because he's a bad motherfucker.

01:18:24.000 And I said, I want to fight all the bad motherfuckers of this era.

01:18:27.000 And he's one of them.

01:18:28.000 And he respected that, so respect to that.

01:18:31.000 But I didn't say nothing about, you know, legacy and, like, if I don't fight him...

01:18:35.000 I want to fight him.

01:18:36.000 I've called him out.

01:18:37.000 And when he put that other video, like, you know, why are you hiding?

01:18:39.000 I'm like, I'm not hiding.

01:18:40.000 I want to fucking fight you.

01:18:41.000 I want that fight.

01:18:41.000 I love you, man.

01:18:42.000 I feel like that's the fight right now.

01:18:43.000 I mean, I don't see anybody other...

01:18:45.000 I mean, a rematch with Whitaker is hard to sell right now.

01:18:47.000 You starched him.

01:18:48.000 He's got to come back and do something.

01:18:50.000 That is the fight.

01:18:51.000 I think so.

01:18:52.000 I think Yolo Romero is the fight.

01:18:54.000 Because Paulo Acosta's got an injury.

01:18:55.000 He just had his bicep repaired.

01:18:58.000 Allegedly?

01:18:58.000 You don't believe it?

01:19:00.000 You faked a surgery?

01:19:03.000 Sips tea.

01:19:05.000 No, but I just don't believe anything after Icarus, man.

01:19:09.000 Like, after seeing everyone.

01:19:10.000 I don't believe no one.

01:19:12.000 That documentary fucked my head up.

01:19:13.000 I saw that painting, man, out there with the Diaz brothers.

01:19:15.000 Everybody on steroids.

01:19:17.000 Everybody on steroids.

01:19:18.000 Shout out to Dos Brock.

01:19:19.000 Yeah, Dos.

01:19:19.000 I met him.

01:19:20.000 Yeah, he's a cool dude.

01:19:21.000 He's a fucking crazy dude, man.

01:19:22.000 I like how he takes all his pictures with a bandana over his face.

01:19:24.000 I did one as well.

01:19:25.000 I put the bandana on there.

01:19:26.000 I took it too.

01:19:27.000 I was like, I see you.

01:19:28.000 But yeah, I don't know.

01:19:31.000 He can heal up or whatever, but give me Yoromero.

01:19:35.000 I said it.

01:19:36.000 I've said it.

01:19:36.000 I'll say it again.

01:19:37.000 I'm not ducking no one.

01:19:38.000 I ain't fucking ducking nobody.

01:19:40.000 Give me the fight.

01:19:40.000 Yeah, I don't understand the idea that he's lost all those fights so you can't have a fight for the title.

01:19:45.000 You talk to Uncle Dana.

01:19:46.000 Please, Dana, listen to me.

01:19:48.000 You can make that fight.

01:19:49.000 Everybody wants to see it.

01:19:50.000 100%.

01:19:50.000 100% of the hardcore fans want to see it.

01:19:52.000 All you have to do is show a Yoel Romero heart.

01:19:54.000 I will do a countdown for that.

01:19:57.000 I don't do those anymore.

01:19:57.000 I will do it for that fight.

01:19:58.000 I look forward to the challenge, man.

01:20:01.000 That's the thing.

01:20:01.000 I want that fight.

01:20:02.000 I want to see it.

01:20:03.000 I got to find his neck.

01:20:05.000 He's a unique challenge.

01:20:06.000 I want to find his neck.

01:20:07.000 It's a solid bumble.

01:20:09.000 It goes right into his brain.

01:20:10.000 Misha.

01:20:10.000 Misha Surkinov.

01:20:12.000 I'm telling you, my Peruvian necktie is tight now.

01:20:14.000 I thought I knew what it was.

01:20:16.000 I thought I had it before because I used to get it like maybe 30% of the time.

01:20:19.000 Yeah.

01:20:20.000 My man showed me some shit and he also showed me because you see the Gaston fight.

01:20:23.000 Do you know where that came from?

01:20:24.000 Peruvian necktie?

01:20:25.000 No.

01:20:25.000 It's Tony D'Souza.

01:20:26.000 Oh, yeah.

01:20:27.000 Yeah, D'Souza invented it.

01:20:28.000 I think he invented it because if he didn't invent it, he fucking nailed it.

01:20:32.000 Yeah.

01:20:32.000 And so it became the Peruvian necktie.

01:20:34.000 I want to rename it.

01:20:35.000 D'Souza was a beast.

01:20:36.000 D'Souza is one of the lost beasts.

01:20:38.000 Yeah.

01:20:38.000 Like, I used to love watching that guy fight.

01:20:39.000 Fucking prove your motherfucker with a big, thick beard fought like a savage.

01:20:43.000 Tough as shit.

01:20:45.000 Tough as shit.

01:20:46.000 Tony D'Souza.

01:20:46.000 People forgot him.

01:20:48.000 There's so many great fighters from the old days that get slept on.

01:20:51.000 But Tony D'Souza is the one.

01:20:53.000 Sort of like, you know, like the Von Flucho, because Jason Von Flucho.

01:20:57.000 I think you got to rename that the OSP. I want to rename the Peruvian once I do what OSP has been doing.

01:21:04.000 The thing is, I think he invented the Peruvian necktie.

01:21:07.000 I think D'Souza invented it.

01:21:09.000 It's credited as the modified guillotine choke.

01:21:12.000 Yeah.

01:21:13.000 Yeah.

01:21:14.000 I think he invented it.

01:21:15.000 What it is, is for people who don't know what we're talking about, it's kind of like a sideways guillotine where you throw the leg over the head and the back.

01:21:22.000 It's nasty.

01:21:22.000 It looks cool, man.

01:21:23.000 Oh, it hurts like hell, too.

01:21:24.000 I was doing it like this with this grip, and then homeboy, Misha showed me how to get deep, and then hold it from here.

01:21:30.000 Get to the side.

01:21:30.000 Marcello Garcia style.

01:21:32.000 Yeah.

01:21:33.000 Yeah.

01:21:33.000 Just throw the legs over, and it's so fucking nasty, man.

01:21:36.000 Yeah, there's Tony.

01:21:37.000 Tony D'Souza.

01:21:38.000 Wow.

01:21:38.000 Old school.

01:21:39.000 Yeah, he figured it out, man.

01:21:40.000 He figured it out.

01:21:41.000 And it's all about that leg over the head, man.

01:21:43.000 Once you get that leg over the head to accentuate the pressure.

01:21:44.000 I can leg press some heavy weight.

01:21:47.000 So when you put that on the back of someone's head and you go...

01:21:49.000 Yeah.

01:21:50.000 Straight away, it's a nice one.

01:21:52.000 Bunch of people have got it.

01:21:53.000 CB Dalloway's got it before.

01:21:54.000 A few other guys have got it.

01:21:55.000 Yeah, I saw CB Dalloway's one.

01:21:56.000 Doberman, I saw that one.

01:21:58.000 But there's, like, in the Gaslum fight, in the last, like, 20 seconds, I had a front headlock on him.

01:22:04.000 And I thought about going for a dash choke, but I knew Eugene might yell at me, so I didn't.

01:22:10.000 Why would he yell at you?

01:22:11.000 He didn't want you to grapple with him at all?

01:22:13.000 Slippery?

01:22:13.000 No, no, no, no.

01:22:13.000 Just, because I had the guillotine, I had the triangle, but it was slippery, and also I was already winning the striking.

01:22:19.000 I don't want to end up like Frank Mir when he fought Noguera.

01:22:21.000 Well, that was an interesting thing.

01:22:22.000 When you did go to your back, you were throwing up triangles.

01:22:24.000 I was like, this motherfucker's dangerous off his back.

01:22:26.000 This isn't a defensive guard.

01:22:29.000 But I was like, he's attacking.

01:22:30.000 But I kind of knew.

01:22:32.000 I mean, even though I hadn't seen it, I know who you are.

01:22:34.000 You're not going to be a guy who doesn't have anything off your back.

01:22:37.000 You're not going to have a hole like that.

01:22:39.000 You're going to figure that out.

01:22:40.000 And I'm still learning, man.

01:22:42.000 I'm still a white belt.

01:22:43.000 It took me five years to get my blue belt.

01:22:44.000 Andre Gaval gave me my blue belt, surprisingly.

01:22:47.000 But I was like...

01:22:49.000 I'm still a white guy.

01:22:49.000 Do you train with Galvao in San Diego?

01:22:51.000 No, no.

01:22:51.000 I haven't trained there, but he's come over and we are, what do you call it, affiliated with the school.

01:22:56.000 Oh, I see.

01:22:56.000 And they have a program.

01:22:57.000 They don't just give it out, but they have to fed them and they have a really good relationship with my coach, Adam Johnson, my jiu-jitsu coach and analyst and also Eugene Behrman.

01:23:06.000 So when he saw me rolling and stuff like that, I think he was like, oh, Oh, that's great.

01:23:11.000 So yeah, I was just surprised to even get my blue belt that day, but I didn't mind.

01:23:16.000 I was like, fuck it.

01:23:17.000 That's a nice person to get it from too, man.

01:23:20.000 Get it from Galvao.

01:23:21.000 That's beautiful.

01:23:22.000 Yeah, and I was even looking forward to training with Gordon Ryan when I was in New York, but fucking this thing won't let me.

01:23:27.000 Yeah, protect your knees, man.

01:23:28.000 You don't want a fucked up knee.

01:23:29.000 No, I don't want to roll with him.

01:23:30.000 Fuck all that.

01:23:31.000 Nah, I'm not rolling with him.

01:23:32.000 Just like swap skills.

01:23:34.000 Nah, fuck rolling with him.

01:23:35.000 Maybe later on.

01:23:35.000 But like, I just wanted to swap skills because they know some shit about grappling that we don't know.

01:23:41.000 Well, Donaher is a legitimate genius.

01:23:43.000 That's a guy.

01:23:43.000 Kiwi guy as well.

01:23:44.000 And he knows some shit.

01:23:45.000 You talk to that guy, you look in his eyes, there's a darkness in that guy's soul.

01:23:49.000 I saw him on the podcast when he's talking to you.

01:23:51.000 Yes.

01:23:52.000 He's intense, man.

01:23:53.000 He's like Professor X. I was just going to say that.

01:23:55.000 He's like the real live Professor X. Dude, he's spooky smart, too.

01:23:59.000 Spooky smart.

01:24:00.000 So I was going to swap some skills with Gordon Ryan and, what's his name?

01:24:05.000 Gary Tonin.

01:24:06.000 Whoever else.

01:24:07.000 Eddie Cummins branched off.

01:24:09.000 He's got his own gym now, but he's another master.

01:24:12.000 Yeah.

01:24:12.000 You know, those guys are that whole...

01:24:13.000 It's really interesting what happened out of that whole gym.

01:24:16.000 That gym really...

01:24:18.000 That was the epicenter of the revolution.

01:24:20.000 They sort of started this whole leg lock revolution in jiu-jitsu.

01:24:24.000 What did Dean Lister say?

01:24:25.000 Why would you ignore 50% of the human body?

01:24:28.000 Boom.

01:24:28.000 And then Donaher was like...

01:24:29.000 That's the switch.

01:24:30.000 Why would you?

01:24:31.000 That's the scene!

01:24:32.000 That was it.

01:24:32.000 That was the scene.

01:24:33.000 I mean, it really was because Dean Lister was tapping people with leg locks and heel hooks back when you would get booed.

01:24:38.000 I remember I saw Dean Lister compete in Abu Dhabi in Sao Paulo, Brazil in 2003. But you were there.

01:24:46.000 Yeah, because Eddie Bravo fought Hoyler Gracie.

01:24:49.000 That's right, you said, yeah.

01:24:49.000 So I flew over with Eddie.

01:24:52.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:24:54.000 Dude, I've never been so happy in all my life.

01:24:56.000 Even the last fight he had with, who was it?

01:25:00.000 Which Gracie was it?

01:25:00.000 The last fight.

01:25:01.000 Eddie?

01:25:02.000 He fought Hoyler again.

01:25:03.000 Hoyler, yeah, that's right.

01:25:03.000 He had him in that split thing.

01:25:06.000 Hoyler did wooden tap.

01:25:07.000 He had him in what's called the, what is it called?

01:25:10.000 I don't know all the 10 planet names so much, but yeah, he had his legs like this and I could see his groin about to tear.

01:25:17.000 Well, his knee was fucking, I forget, it's some nuclear word.

01:25:21.000 I forget the word he used for it.

01:25:23.000 Vaporizer.

01:25:24.000 Vaporizer.

01:25:24.000 That is it.

01:25:24.000 That's it.

01:25:25.000 That's it.

01:25:26.000 I knew it was in there somewhere.

01:25:26.000 Dude, he was ripping Hoyler's knee apart.

01:25:29.000 And as a person who's had three knee surgeries, I was watching it.

01:25:32.000 I was like, please just tap.

01:25:35.000 Just tap.

01:25:35.000 It ain't worth it.

01:25:36.000 He wasn't going to tap.

01:25:37.000 It's the pride, man.

01:25:37.000 It's the pride.

01:25:38.000 But he wouldn't tap with anything.

01:25:40.000 Remember when he fought Sakuraba?

01:25:41.000 Sakuraba had a deep Kimura way behind his back.

01:25:44.000 Oh, yeah.

01:25:45.000 All up like this where it looked like his joints were ripping apart.

01:25:48.000 He wouldn't tap and they stopped the fight.

01:25:50.000 Yeah.

01:25:50.000 They stopped the fight.

01:25:51.000 They have to.

01:25:51.000 Well, they didn't have to.

01:25:53.000 Let him get his shit ripped up, you know?

01:25:54.000 Yeah, he'd be like some Shinya Aoki shit.

01:25:56.000 Remember when Mir did that to Noguera?

01:25:58.000 Oh, bro.

01:25:58.000 Snapped his arm.

01:25:59.000 Same shit.

01:25:59.000 You can see it.

01:26:00.000 It's just like, boom, pop.

01:26:02.000 There's that moment where it's just like, fuck it, it's gonna go.

01:26:04.000 And Frank's looking at his arm like this.

01:26:05.000 I mean, Minotaur's looking at his arm like this, like, oh!

01:26:08.000 Is it...

01:26:09.000 Yeah.

01:26:09.000 I mean, his arm's never the same again.

01:26:11.000 Nah.

01:26:11.000 I mean, that's a...

01:26:12.000 When you get that upper arm snapped, like, god damn, that's a bad bone.

01:26:16.000 That guy's a guy.

01:26:17.000 He fights like a zombie.

01:26:18.000 He's the original zombie.

01:26:19.000 Yeah.

01:26:20.000 Here it is.

01:26:20.000 He don't go.

01:26:21.000 This is...

01:26:22.000 Eddie is tearing his fucking knee apart.

01:26:26.000 I mean, if you don't...

01:26:28.000 If you've never experienced what this feels like...

01:26:30.000 I've only experienced it a couple times.

01:26:32.000 It's a terrible feeling, man.

01:26:34.000 It's a terrible feeling.

01:26:35.000 It's hard to explain what's going on here, but...

01:26:37.000 Oh, wow.

01:26:38.000 Yeah, his knee...

01:26:38.000 You can see that.

01:26:39.000 Yeah, it's sideways and being mangled.

01:26:42.000 Oh, fuck all that.

01:26:43.000 And Eddie said it kept popping, and Hoyler's just dealing with the pain, like right there.

01:26:48.000 That's deep.

01:26:48.000 Oh, my God.

01:26:49.000 His knee is tearing apart.

01:26:51.000 That's mental fortitude, man.

01:26:52.000 Oh, man, that whole family.

01:26:54.000 That whole family is savages.

01:26:55.000 I mean, there's never been a family that's revolutionized martial arts the way the Gracie family did, and Hoyler was the most successful of all the Gracies.

01:27:03.000 When it came to competition, he was a multiple-time world champion.

01:27:07.000 Of course he is.

01:27:07.000 Look at his fucking knee, man.

01:27:09.000 Eddie Bravo's mangling his knee, and he won't tap.

01:27:12.000 And Eddie's telling him, just tap, man.

01:27:13.000 He's like, it's fine.

01:27:14.000 It's normal.

01:27:15.000 He's like, dude, your leg just popped five times.

01:27:16.000 He's like, it's normal.

01:27:17.000 Like, he's tapping it again.

01:27:19.000 Eddie's got him wrapped up.

01:27:20.000 That's nasty.

01:27:21.000 And this is some shit Eddie invented.

01:27:22.000 This is what's crazy about all of this.

01:27:25.000 I mean, Hoyler, to his credit, just would rather get his knee torn apart than lose.

01:27:30.000 When's the last time The Indian came out?

01:27:32.000 Eddie?

01:27:32.000 Probably a couple hours ago.

01:27:36.000 Man, you gotta have him back on, man.

01:27:37.000 He's funny.

01:27:38.000 I love him.

01:27:38.000 I love that guy.

01:27:39.000 Especially on the flight companions.

01:27:40.000 We were just talking on the phone the other day, and I was driving to this area where the cell phone was about to cut out, and he was telling me some crazy conspiracy.

01:27:46.000 Oh, no.

01:27:46.000 And I was like, bro, bro, bro, I love you.

01:27:47.000 I gotta go.

01:27:48.000 My phone's about to cut out.

01:27:49.000 I love you too, man.

01:27:50.000 I'm sorry I'd chewed your ear off.

01:27:52.000 I'd love to be in one day.

01:27:53.000 He's so crazy.

01:27:55.000 Oh, my God.

01:27:55.000 He loves conspiracies.

01:27:57.000 He loves conspiracies.

01:27:58.000 Like...

01:27:58.000 It's like his family, number one, jujitsu, number two, conspiracies.

01:28:04.000 What's the new one?

01:28:05.000 Maybe his friends, number three, and then conspiracies.

01:28:07.000 Oh, everybody.

01:28:08.000 Look into it.

01:28:08.000 Everybody's into that one.

01:28:09.000 See, I don't know too deep about it, but even...

01:28:13.000 Fucking a chimp could tell you.

01:28:15.000 My dog, Marshall, could tell you.

01:28:16.000 He knows the shit.

01:28:19.000 Fucking, look, man, that guy, Bill Clinton flew with that guy 26 confirmed times.

01:28:26.000 26. It might be 28, but 26 confirmed times.

01:28:29.000 I read that, I'm like, bro, I didn't even flew with my mother 26 times.

01:28:33.000 How does this guy fly with...

01:28:35.000 Bill Clinton flew with a pedophile 26 times over the period of just a couple of years.

01:28:40.000 Fuck Island, they called it.

01:28:41.000 Fuck Island.

01:28:42.000 That's what everybody else called it.

01:28:44.000 How to defend against suicide.

01:28:49.000 I'm loving these bees, man.

01:28:50.000 Yeah, they snapped that guy's fucking neck, man.

01:28:53.000 Is that Eddie?

01:28:54.000 Oh, of course.

01:28:56.000 Another one.

01:28:58.000 They snapped that guy's fucking neck.

01:29:00.000 They said his neck was fractured.

01:29:02.000 How can you do that from hanging yourself?

01:29:04.000 You can't.

01:29:04.000 How do you hang yourself in jail?

01:29:06.000 It'll come out eventually.

01:29:08.000 Dude, even Michael Shermer, who's like a professional skeptic, he's the editor of Skeptics Magazine, he said it was probably a conspiracy.

01:29:14.000 Even him!

01:29:15.000 He said, what, the cameras are down?

01:29:17.000 The cameras weren't working.

01:29:18.000 What?

01:29:18.000 Just happened to shut off at that time.

01:29:20.000 Come on, get the fuck out of here.

01:29:21.000 They killed that dude.

01:29:22.000 They killed that dude and no one's talking about it.

01:29:24.000 Now everybody's like...

01:29:28.000 I mean, there's that leak where that ABC reporter was saying that ABC squashed a story three years ago.

01:29:33.000 I saw Hillary was on Trevor Noah and he kind of asked her.

01:29:39.000 Yeah, he joked around with her.

01:29:40.000 Yeah, but she laughed about it.

01:29:41.000 I thought it was one of those, what do you call the thing, the deep fakes?

01:29:45.000 But it was real.

01:29:46.000 Well, here's what's crazy.

01:29:48.000 She knew that guy.

01:29:49.000 Yeah.

01:29:50.000 She knew that guy.

01:29:50.000 And that guy was most likely murdered in jail.

01:29:55.000 And she was laughing about it.

01:29:56.000 Yeah.

01:29:57.000 Like, because Trevor Noah said, how did you kill Jeffrey Epstein?

01:29:59.000 Yeah, but they were cool.

01:30:00.000 And she's like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

01:30:01.000 But that's like, imagine if you knew someone.

01:30:04.000 Like, and your husband was flying around with that guy.

01:30:07.000 And this is like someone you know.

01:30:09.000 You've got to know pretty well.

01:30:10.000 Like, you've hung out with him at cocktail parties.

01:30:12.000 Like...

01:30:14.000 Maybe you've known him for years, and then that guy gets murdered.

01:30:17.000 And then somebody asks you, how'd you murder him?

01:30:19.000 And you start laughing.

01:30:21.000 That's weird.

01:30:22.000 You gotta be a cruel, heartless person to think that's funny.

01:30:26.000 That's weird.

01:30:26.000 It's just a joke about it.

01:30:27.000 That's weird.

01:30:28.000 She did the same thing with Gaddafi stuff.

01:30:31.000 That was different, though, because that wasn't a joke.

01:30:35.000 She said, we came, we saw, he died.

01:30:38.000 Ha ha ha.

01:30:39.000 But that was someone that wasn't her friend, supposedly.

01:30:41.000 Right, that was someone who wasn't her friend.

01:30:42.000 Right.

01:30:42.000 This was someone who she knew, and, you know, Trevor, and listen, the way The Daily Show works, for sure, they told her.

01:30:49.000 They told her beforehand.

01:30:50.000 Yeah, I was like, they couldn't have sprung that on her.

01:30:52.000 No way.

01:30:53.000 No way.

01:30:53.000 You don't spring shit on Hillary goddamn Clinton when she's on a Comedy Central show.

01:30:58.000 Yeah.

01:30:58.000 Play that.

01:30:58.000 So she would be ready for that.

01:30:59.000 And then like...

01:31:00.000 And she's got to know you respect her.

01:31:03.000 She's got to...

01:31:03.000 I mean, there's no way she's coming on that show unless she knows everything's going to be okay.

01:31:07.000 So when they brought that up and she started laughing, she knew that shit was coming.

01:31:11.000 I guarantee you.

01:31:12.000 Guarantee you.

01:31:13.000 Guarantee you.

01:31:13.000 They're not free balling on that show.

01:31:15.000 It'll come out later on.

01:31:16.000 I'm sure it'll come out later on.

01:31:18.000 Some people know too much, man.

01:31:20.000 Yeah.

01:31:20.000 Way too much.

01:31:21.000 It probably will be one of those decades later things we find out, you know, that some guy on his deathbed says he killed Epstein because Clinton paid him off.

01:31:30.000 You know, who the fuck knows?

01:31:32.000 Who knows what that guy knew?

01:31:35.000 I mean, that guy was a professional blackmailer.

01:31:39.000 I don't know who he worked for.

01:31:40.000 I have no idea.

01:31:41.000 Probably there's more.

01:31:42.000 Like, fuck it, I might just be the tip of the iceberg.

01:31:44.000 Fuck yes!

01:31:44.000 There's probably a whole shitload of things we have no idea about.

01:31:47.000 Fuck yes!

01:31:48.000 I'm surprised all that kind of stuff gets into politics as well with, like, sex trafficking and whatnot.

01:31:52.000 It's like...

01:31:53.000 Really?

01:31:54.000 Well, I think...

01:31:55.000 We're billionaires.

01:31:55.000 You can get a guy like that.

01:31:57.000 Like, here's a lot of these guys.

01:31:59.000 This is my thoughts.

01:32:00.000 A lot of these guys are freaks, and then they're in the public eye, so they have to maintain a proper position.

01:32:04.000 We know Bill Clinton, during the 90s in particular, there's no internet.

01:32:08.000 He was fucking like a...

01:32:10.000 He was just fucking up a storm.

01:32:11.000 He was a wild man.

01:32:13.000 And, you know, there's a few alleged rapes.

01:32:17.000 Alleged?

01:32:18.000 Yes, alleged sexual assaults.

01:32:20.000 Alleged, allegedly.

01:32:21.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:32:21.000 I wasn't there, but there's women that are accusing him of sexual assault and rape.

01:32:25.000 So you've got the Monica Lewinsky things.

01:32:27.000 You know he's a freak.

01:32:28.000 He's getting his dick sucked by 20-year-olds in the White House.

01:32:31.000 I did not have sexual relations with that woman.

01:32:35.000 And then when they bust him, he's like, well, as to what I thought sexual relations were.

01:32:43.000 But you've got to think.

01:32:45.000 There's a lot of those dudes out there.

01:32:48.000 That's why they get into politics in the first place.

01:32:49.000 They're all in their 60s, so they got into politics in the fucking 80s and the 70s.

01:32:53.000 They got into politics because they wanted to fuck.

01:32:55.000 They wanted to be the king.

01:32:56.000 They wanted to be the guy with all the power.

01:32:58.000 They wanted to be the alpha.

01:32:59.000 And so then, all of a sudden, the rules change because of the internet.

01:33:03.000 So then they got to figure out, oh, Jesus, I can't do anything anymore.

01:33:05.000 What the fuck?

01:33:06.000 What do I do?

01:33:08.000 So what they do is they find a guy who's gonna take him to an island where there's no rules.

01:33:13.000 Hey, man, Jeffrey Epstein's got this place.

01:33:15.000 He brings in these girls from Czechoslovakia, and they suck your dick until your head explodes.

01:33:19.000 Let's do it!

01:33:20.000 Woo!

01:33:21.000 Next thing you know, da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

01:33:24.000 You're on the fucking boat headed to the island with Clinton.

01:33:28.000 Fuck, what a life.

01:33:29.000 You had an island!

01:33:30.000 Where'd he get that island?

01:33:31.000 No one knows.

01:33:32.000 I don't even know how you buy an island.

01:33:33.000 You don't.

01:33:34.000 The fucking intelligence agencies give you money.

01:33:36.000 They give you an island.

01:33:37.000 They set it up.

01:33:37.000 Yeah.

01:33:38.000 Someone from some agency, whether it's Mossad or CIA or whoever the fuck it was, they had a concerted effort, most likely, to try to bring these creepers, bring them over there, tempt them with pussies.

01:33:50.000 And he know how to do it.

01:33:51.000 I think they probably do it as well as, like, having shit over them.

01:33:54.000 Yes!

01:33:55.000 So that way they can have, like...

01:33:56.000 They can get them to do things for them.

01:33:58.000 Exactly.

01:33:58.000 Decisions.

01:34:00.000 Bills that need to be passed.

01:34:02.000 You know, fucking drones that need to be launched.

01:34:04.000 Like, example, the marijuana reform.

01:34:06.000 I'm like, look, we all agree now, like, you know, everyone smokes.

01:34:10.000 Everybody, you know, like, not everyone, but like, everyone's doing it.

01:34:12.000 So, they're gonna legalize it.

01:34:14.000 Can't they just have like a group chat or something and be like, okay, all opposed, say nay.

01:34:18.000 All for it, say aye.

01:34:20.000 Why does it have to take so long?

01:34:22.000 Well, the concern is pharmaceutical companies have a massive concern about loss of income.

01:34:27.000 That's a big one.

01:34:27.000 100%.

01:34:28.000 Even in New Zealand right now, it's taking so long to get pushed.

01:34:31.000 And I think they're at the tail end of it.

01:34:34.000 They can't hold back anymore.

01:34:35.000 It's going to fucking burst.

01:34:36.000 It's going to burst.

01:34:37.000 That's what it is.

01:34:37.000 It's going to burst.

01:34:38.000 They can't hold it.

01:34:39.000 Those people have to set up their own businesses and whatnot.

01:34:45.000 So that way, when it comes to boom, they're first in line to cash in.

01:34:49.000 The most egregious example of that is what happened in his home state of Ohio.

01:34:53.000 Tell them a story about what they did.

01:34:56.000 Well, I've actually been, since we brought that up the last couple of days, I've been reading that that was like some misinformation, and that's not exactly how it even is.

01:35:02.000 What?

01:35:02.000 So I don't know.

01:35:03.000 I'm not there, so I don't know exactly.

01:35:05.000 But the bill was making it so that only a few companies...

01:35:09.000 I think that's the one that didn't pass a few years ago, and the one that passed, it's got different stuff.

01:35:13.000 Oh, no, no, I know that.

01:35:14.000 But the one that was proposed, the most egregious example, they proposed a bill to legalize marijuana, but no one could grow it, only a couple companies could grow it, and they would make all the profits.

01:35:24.000 Why?

01:35:24.000 Exactly.

01:35:25.000 So no one can grow it?

01:35:26.000 Well, it's just a horseshit, and by the way, this is forever.

01:35:29.000 They were like, for life, bitch!

01:35:31.000 Really?

01:35:31.000 For life!

01:35:32.000 Yeah, their idea was that they were going to monopolize the state of Ohio.

01:35:36.000 That's all bullshit, man.

01:35:36.000 Everybody was like, fuck you.

01:35:38.000 We'll wait.

01:35:39.000 We'll wait, bitch.

01:35:39.000 I like when I went to Muscle Farm.

01:35:41.000 I was in Denver.

01:35:43.000 What do you call it?

01:35:43.000 Muscle Farm.

01:35:44.000 What's the name of the team?

01:35:46.000 Team Elevate?

01:35:46.000 Elevate, yeah.

01:35:48.000 Right next door is this big hangar.

01:35:52.000 I'm not a scientist, but the smell in the air.

01:35:56.000 What are they, growing skunks?

01:35:57.000 Bro.

01:35:58.000 Literally, I was just like, they're growing weed.

01:36:01.000 100%.

01:36:02.000 Like, literally, you could smell it.

01:36:03.000 I was like, yeah.

01:36:04.000 And it's now minty, man.

01:36:05.000 Yeah.

01:36:06.000 I love the smell.

01:36:07.000 Oh, it's a beautiful smell.

01:36:08.000 Warren Buffett's company.

01:36:09.000 And the weird thing as well is like, as a kid, because of what I was told and what I was perpetrated, whenever I'd smell either beer, because I didn't used to drink until I was like, until I found bourbon.

01:36:18.000 I don't like beer.

01:36:18.000 Long story.

01:36:19.000 But then, I didn't drink or did anything.

01:36:21.000 I was a goodie boy.

01:36:22.000 You know, still, I'm a good boy.

01:36:23.000 But...

01:36:24.000 Once I smelled weed or beer or anything, it reminded me of homeless people.

01:36:28.000 Like, ugh, you're dirty.

01:36:29.000 Because of what I was taught as a kid.

01:36:31.000 But then as an adult now, I'm like, where the party at?

01:36:35.000 Yeah, want to relax.

01:36:36.000 Think different.

01:36:37.000 Chill, bro.

01:36:38.000 Yeah.

01:36:38.000 Well, weed is a great one, man, because it makes people more comfortable with each other.

01:36:44.000 It makes people friendlier.

01:36:46.000 I only smoke around certain people.

01:36:49.000 That's just for me personally, because if I don't feel comfortable, like if you can get into a situation, I'm just like, why is that guy on his phone?

01:36:57.000 Because sometimes you see people like, this is the worst one, man.

01:36:59.000 Now these days, people are just like this, and then you see their phone just like...

01:37:02.000 Right, and you know they're filming you.

01:37:03.000 Yeah.

01:37:04.000 I'm like, why are you texting this way?

01:37:07.000 You ain't got a text this way.

01:37:09.000 That's so common.

01:37:10.000 That's weird, man.

01:37:10.000 I'm sure you get it all.

01:37:11.000 All the time.

01:37:12.000 I would love to do deep bong hits around Donald Trump.

01:37:15.000 Yeah.

01:37:15.000 I'm like, bro, you don't have to smoke.

01:37:16.000 Just hang out in the room with me.

01:37:17.000 Let's see what's up.

01:37:18.000 You could probably take a beat.

01:37:22.000 Now, about these kids in cages.

01:37:24.000 But even just talking to him high as fuck would be weird.

01:37:27.000 Like, bro, why don't you just quit?

01:37:29.000 Come on, man.

01:37:30.000 Just get out.

01:37:30.000 He's one of those guys.

01:37:31.000 He likes the game.

01:37:32.000 He likes the game.

01:37:32.000 I'm sure he does.

01:37:33.000 He's my favorite comedian of this year, man.

01:37:35.000 I follow him on Twitter just because of the shit he says.

01:37:37.000 It's fucking hilarious, man.

01:37:39.000 You can't not respect it.

01:37:40.000 He says some funny shit, for sure.

01:37:41.000 One of the funniest things he ever said was when he was thinking about buying Greenland.

01:37:45.000 He put a picture of Trump Tower.

01:37:47.000 He goes, I promise not to do this.

01:37:49.000 Trump Tower in the middle of Greenland.

01:37:50.000 I was laughing my ass off.

01:37:51.000 That's funny.

01:37:52.000 Donald Trump has reportedly discussed making The Apprentice White House.

01:37:55.000 Holy shit.

01:37:57.000 Ratings.

01:37:57.000 Can you imagine if he turns The White House into a set for a reality show?

01:38:03.000 Holy shit.

01:38:04.000 Holy shit.

01:38:05.000 Who's that dude?

01:38:06.000 Producer Mark Burnett.

01:38:08.000 Oh, that's Mark Burnett.

01:38:09.000 He's buddies with him.

01:38:10.000 See, I knew him from The Apprentices.

01:38:11.000 I watched the first two seasons when I was a kid.

01:38:13.000 You're fired.

01:38:14.000 I remember that.

01:38:15.000 That's his move, man.

01:38:16.000 I've heard some other things after that.

01:38:19.000 You said you were going to do that, but you didn't do it.

01:38:21.000 Well, they offered it to me when I was hosting Fear Factor the second time around, which was like 2011. I talked with my family, but I didn't want to live in New York for three months and all that nastiness.

01:38:30.000 I was like, I'm not interested.

01:38:32.000 I'm not interested.

01:38:33.000 You know, I don't want to pull my kids out and have them...

01:38:36.000 Were they born and raised here?

01:38:37.000 Yeah.

01:38:38.000 It just didn't seem like a smart thing to do.

01:38:41.000 It just seemed like something I'm going to be annoyed with.

01:38:43.000 I didn't want to be angry at anybody.

01:38:45.000 I'm just not that guy.

01:38:46.000 I can't do those.

01:38:47.000 I have to feel that right now, man.

01:38:48.000 It's months and months of your time.

01:38:50.000 For me, it's like, I want to get fighting.

01:38:53.000 After my fight, I kind of like, because we're in Marvel Stadium, I kind of said something about Marvel, like, you know, I'll see you guys soon or whatever I said.

01:38:59.000 But, after fighting, right now, like I said, they're coming for me.

01:39:03.000 So I got to make sure I don't want to end up like some others in this game where they get distracted and look at Hollywood and the show.

01:39:09.000 So I get some offers coming to my table right now and I'm just like...

01:39:13.000 Yeah, nah.

01:39:14.000 Those cautionary tales, they're so readily available for you to consume.

01:39:19.000 Look at Ronda Rousey.

01:39:20.000 Ronda Rousey's the best example.

01:39:21.000 She's on top of the fucking world, man.

01:39:23.000 They all came coming and she said yes to everything.

01:39:25.000 She was doing everything, man.

01:39:26.000 She was doing movies, she was doing interviews, she was writing books.

01:39:30.000 And, you know, one thing, you gotta give it to Conor McGregor.

01:39:32.000 I mean, Conor McGregor said no to all that shit when he was on top.

01:39:35.000 He said no to all that shit.

01:39:36.000 I've learned from her, from him, from John, from Silva, from everyone.

01:39:40.000 I've seen the highs and the lows of this game, man.

01:39:42.000 And like I said, I'll make my own mistakes, but guess what?

01:39:45.000 I'll bounce right back.

01:39:46.000 I always will.

01:39:47.000 But it's better to learn from the mistakes.

01:39:50.000 You'll make less the way you're approaching things.

01:39:52.000 You will.

01:39:53.000 I know me.

01:39:54.000 Actually, Eugene sees me every day.

01:39:57.000 That's why sometimes I'm like...

01:39:59.000 The same rhetoric.

01:40:00.000 I'm your biggest fan or you inspire me or this and that.

01:40:04.000 I appreciate that.

01:40:05.000 If you can take inspiration from the story that you've seen through TV, through media, fuck yeah.

01:40:10.000 Go hard.

01:40:11.000 I'm sure.

01:40:12.000 Is it weird still seeing your face on people's stomachs?

01:40:15.000 Very strange.

01:40:16.000 Yeah.

01:40:17.000 Like, there's a guy.

01:40:18.000 How was him?

01:40:18.000 Dylan.

01:40:18.000 Shout out to Dylan.

01:40:19.000 He's got my face on his thigh.

01:40:20.000 I met him in a club in Auckland.

01:40:22.000 And, yeah, I flew him plus one to my last fight just because I was like, fuck.

01:40:26.000 Good for you.

01:40:27.000 I'm like, I got to have to tattoo his face on my thigh now.

01:40:30.000 I don't know.

01:40:31.000 That would be a thing.

01:40:31.000 Like, if you get a Stylebender tattoo, you get a free ticket to your style defense.

01:40:34.000 Don't put it out there.

01:40:35.000 Don't do it.

01:40:37.000 How many people you think would do that?

01:40:40.000 It's crazy, motherfuckers.

01:40:41.000 We'll do it just for the low.

01:40:42.000 Just like, ah, I did it.

01:40:44.000 And just for the free tickets, too.

01:40:46.000 As Israel Adesanya, the last stylebender incorporated, I do not agree with the sentiments of Joe Rogan in the last speech.

01:40:51.000 We would have to prove.

01:40:52.000 Do it at your own risk.

01:40:53.000 How about this?

01:40:54.000 We'd have to prove that you got a tattoo of stylebender before this day.

01:40:57.000 Before I blew up.

01:40:58.000 Before this day.

01:40:59.000 Yeah.

01:40:59.000 So this is like, you can't do it after you hear us talk about it.

01:41:02.000 There's only two.

01:41:03.000 I can't remember the other guy's name.

01:41:04.000 That's what you know.

01:41:05.000 You only know about two.

01:41:06.000 Actually, three.

01:41:07.000 There's one chick from somewhere in South America, the Brazilian girl.

01:41:10.000 Oh, shit.

01:41:10.000 I can't remember her name.

01:41:11.000 She's just going to stop being on her arm.

01:41:12.000 How does she look?

01:41:13.000 She's all right.

01:41:18.000 I can't remember her name, but shout out to Mamacita.

01:41:20.000 If you were fucking a girl who had your name tattooed on her, that's dangerous moves.

01:41:24.000 That's dangerous moves.

01:41:25.000 That's Russian roulette right there, son.

01:41:27.000 Or even if a chick has, like, maybe your face on her back or something, and some guy's hitting her from the back, and it's just like, what the fuck is this?

01:41:34.000 That's rough.

01:41:34.000 It's a third eye looking there.

01:41:35.000 I'm looking so high.

01:41:37.000 That's rough.

01:41:39.000 A girl with your name on it though, if you met up with a fan who had your name tattooed or your face tattooed on her, that's risky.

01:41:46.000 That's rushing when we met with four bullets.

01:41:47.000 I make sure people are around for that one.

01:41:49.000 Yes, everybody.

01:41:50.000 Allegedly.

01:41:50.000 I don't want to catch no Bill Cosby.

01:41:53.000 So I have my hands.

01:41:54.000 When you take a picture, you're just like, you do the Keanu Reeves.

01:41:57.000 Do the air float.

01:41:59.000 The floating hands.

01:42:01.000 Catch no Bill Cosby.

01:42:02.000 I know they're coming, man.

01:42:03.000 I know, because I've already foreseen everything that's kind of happening.

01:42:06.000 And I know this kind of shit's coming.

01:42:07.000 So I just have to make sure, you know, like Addison says, stay focused, you know, dog my eyes, cross my T's.

01:42:12.000 Make sure they don't catch me slipping.

01:42:14.000 Well, you're looking at it the right way because you realize that right now you're at this...

01:42:18.000 It's like a funnel, right?

01:42:19.000 You're at the opening of the funnel where it's just going to go...

01:42:23.000 The options.

01:42:25.000 Because you're newly crowned as the champion.

01:42:28.000 And as you defend the title and start murking motherfuckers and become bigger and bigger and bigger and then the UFC puts you in more and more promos, your pay-per-views sell more and more, you become an international star, then it gets crazy.

01:42:40.000 Then you can't go anywhere and people are screaming when they see you walking to a restaurant.

01:42:44.000 Even after my press conference in Melbourne, before the fight, after the press conference, the one that the guy with the megaphone was fucking with me on, after that, that night...

01:42:54.000 What was he doing?

01:42:55.000 I'm sure someone planted it, because even I asked Robert after, I was like, did you pay that guy?

01:42:59.000 He's like, fuck no.

01:43:00.000 I was like, you should have.

01:43:00.000 Because he had a megaphone.

01:43:02.000 And the whole time, he just kept on interrupting me on one and I was going back and forth with him.

01:43:06.000 But I liked it because guess what?

01:43:08.000 If he wasn't there, it would have been a boring press conference.

01:43:11.000 He's not going to say shit.

01:43:12.000 He backtracked already.

01:43:13.000 But after that press conference, I lit up in the alleyway, smoked up, and I walked around Melbourne with my AirPods in.

01:43:20.000 And I just walked around the city.

01:43:21.000 And at one point, I just sat at a tram stop so I can just sit there.

01:43:24.000 And people were just going back and forth.

01:43:25.000 And I could just sit there and look normal and just like...

01:43:27.000 Soak it all in, because I know eventually I won't be able to do shit like this.

01:43:30.000 After my debut in Perth, I did the same thing after breakfast the next day, just walked around, just enjoying the view, enjoying just being me, because I'm not saying I'm going to blow up, but I know I'm going to blow up.

01:43:41.000 You're going to blow up.

01:43:43.000 Like ISIS. Yeah, you just got to understand what it is, and it's going to get confusing.

01:43:48.000 And what you said earlier about fame is very, very smart, that you said no one really tells you how to prepare for that.

01:43:55.000 What about you?

01:43:55.000 How'd you deal with it when you were young?

01:43:57.000 I got a slow drip.

01:43:59.000 I got fame and a slow drip.

01:44:01.000 I got a tolerance for it because I was on television in 1994 and nobody knew who the fuck I was.

01:44:08.000 I was one of eight people on a not so successful sitcom.

01:44:13.000 It was a great sitcom but it was not so successful.

01:44:16.000 And then I had a couple little television gigs on stand-up comedy shows, but nothing big.

01:44:21.000 And so I could kind of sell a weekend at a club, but I had to do morning radio.

01:44:26.000 I wasn't famous, but I was a little bit known.

01:44:29.000 And then Fear Factor came along, and that was a big jump.

01:44:32.000 That was a big jump.

01:44:33.000 Yeah, that was a big jump.

01:44:34.000 That was a big jump because then I was on a giant hit television show that was iconic.

01:44:39.000 It was on for six years, 148 episodes.

01:44:42.000 That was family time.

01:44:43.000 That was a big jump.

01:44:44.000 But then there was the podcast, which came after all that.

01:44:49.000 And the podcast was like a slow run.

01:44:52.000 It was slow.

01:44:53.000 You were famous before the podcast.

01:44:55.000 Yeah, I was famous.

01:44:56.000 But then the podcast changed everything.

01:44:58.000 So how'd you deal with it from the big jump from, you know, just a comedian to Fairfactor guy?

01:45:04.000 How did you, like...

01:45:05.000 I just got used to it.

01:45:07.000 And I'm also like you in the sense that I don't...

01:45:10.000 I don't want to get caught up doing stupid shit.

01:45:13.000 I don't want to think about things the wrong way.

01:45:15.000 What's going on?

01:45:16.000 Your girl's in the window.

01:45:18.000 Who that?

01:45:19.000 Five more minutes?

01:45:20.000 Is that what she's saying?

01:45:21.000 Five more.

01:45:21.000 Do you have something hard out?

01:45:23.000 Yeah, they're working me.

01:45:24.000 In New York, literally...

01:45:25.000 They're working you?

01:45:26.000 Yeah.

01:45:27.000 Off the chain like a runaway thing.

01:45:28.000 That's why I don't like publicists being around here.

01:45:30.000 Get out of here.

01:45:31.000 I didn't know she was going to be here, but I don't mind.

01:45:32.000 Get out of here.

01:45:33.000 Get out of here.

01:45:36.000 Yeah, she's at five minutes.

01:45:38.000 Fuck.

01:45:38.000 Fame is a trick that works on other people, but it shouldn't work on you.

01:45:44.000 You gotta know who you are.

01:45:46.000 100%.

01:45:46.000 That's the thing.

01:45:47.000 If it works on you, you're fucked.

01:45:48.000 Yeah.

01:45:48.000 Because it's like, if you're a magician, you really think you pulled a rabbit out of the hat?

01:45:53.000 You're fucked now, man.

01:45:55.000 You're living in a world of nonsense.

01:45:57.000 I think one thing that helps is martial arts.

01:46:00.000 Jiu-jitsu helps.

01:46:00.000 When you go get strangled all the time, that helps.

01:46:02.000 I fucking hate that word, man.

01:46:03.000 Honestly, it's so overused.

01:46:04.000 And I've said it before.

01:46:05.000 I'm like, what's humble?

01:46:07.000 Especially in New Zealand, there's this culture of like...

01:46:10.000 People even like, they don't like me because it's, oh, he's not humble like a true Kiwi.

01:46:15.000 He's not, you know, like the All Blacks, you know, humble.

01:46:17.000 And what they mean, and I've asked people this, what does humble mean?

01:46:21.000 And someone said, oh, you know, you just don't brag.

01:46:24.000 I'm like...

01:46:26.000 They just mean downplaying your success.

01:46:29.000 Yes.

01:46:29.000 So if anyone like me rocks up and just, I'm owning it.

01:46:33.000 I'm like, fuck it.

01:46:34.000 You're owning it.

01:46:34.000 I'm the champ.

01:46:35.000 I'm the man.

01:46:35.000 I'm being the champ.

01:46:36.000 You're him.

01:46:37.000 And then they say, oh no, he's not humble.

01:46:39.000 But I tell you what, humble is when I have Dan Hooker on my fucking neck, hangman.

01:46:44.000 Yeah.

01:46:44.000 Humble is when I have Stephen Warby cracking me with an uppercut.

01:46:47.000 Humble is when I have Carlos kicking me in the body and making my liver go...

01:46:53.000 That's true humility.

01:46:55.000 But me, like, trying to act, you know, dull my shine just to make someone else feel comfortable, that's not humble.

01:47:01.000 And I see that as a problem with that, like, crabs in the bucket thing.

01:47:04.000 When Kamaru was about to win the title, a reporter asked me, like, you know, oh, does a part of you hope that Kamaru loses so you can be the first Nigerian middleweight champion?

01:47:15.000 What fucking, what reporter said that to you?

01:47:18.000 I can't remember, but it's in the press conference.

01:47:20.000 They asked me, and I was like, I don't think like that.

01:47:22.000 That's clickbait.

01:47:23.000 No, no, but that doesn't work.

01:47:24.000 He was hoping I'd say something like that.

01:47:26.000 I see them.

01:47:27.000 I've banned someone already.

01:47:28.000 I don't do any interviews with them.

01:47:30.000 If they talk to me, I just, next.

01:47:32.000 You know that episode of Black Mirror where you block someone?

01:47:34.000 I've blocked him.

01:47:35.000 I would record who that is.

01:47:37.000 They take a cheap shot and they don't understand.

01:47:40.000 That's you, man.

01:47:41.000 Now you're that guy that takes those cheap shots.

01:47:43.000 Everybody's going to remember that.

01:47:44.000 You think you're just trying to make some noise, make a little pop, but you're creating bad energy for no reason.

01:47:50.000 You're trying to get something for now.

01:47:52.000 You're not thinking of longevity.

01:47:53.000 Because in the future, I'm not going to talk to you now.

01:47:55.000 What is it about Nigerians?

01:47:58.000 Why are Nigerians so clever?

01:48:00.000 All these internet scams.

01:48:02.000 When you hear about internet scams, it's Nigerians.

01:48:05.000 Right?

01:48:06.000 Nigerians come to America, they're one of the most successful groups of immigrants in all the fucking countries, 100 plus whatever countries.

01:48:15.000 Nigerians murder it when they come to America.

01:48:17.000 There's something about, there's a work ethic, but there's also a cleverness.

01:48:21.000 Yeah.

01:48:21.000 To Nigerians.

01:48:22.000 I've said it before.

01:48:23.000 I'm the runt of my people, brain-wise, body-wise.

01:48:27.000 Because when I went back recently, honestly, man, you see people who are just bricklaying, and they are jacked.

01:48:33.000 They are ripped, some of them.

01:48:35.000 And they don't maybe have the best nutrition.

01:48:37.000 Right.

01:48:37.000 But there's something about the genetics of our people.

01:48:40.000 It's a warrior race.

01:48:41.000 And I don't say that likely.

01:48:42.000 I'm just being honest.

01:48:43.000 Right.

01:48:43.000 It's different.

01:48:44.000 Right.

01:48:46.000 I think also the culture, because I was doing algebra in school when I was like seven, and then I went to, I remember when I first moved to New Zealand, Form 1. I had to do Form 1 in three different countries, so I started Form 1. I don't know what you guys have here.

01:48:59.000 Form 1, sound like first grade?

01:49:00.000 No.

01:49:01.000 I don't know how it is, but pretty much I was 10 years old, and I moved to Ghana for a little bit, and I had to repeat it again.

01:49:05.000 Then I moved to New Zealand, and I had to repeat it again, because they said, no, he's too young.

01:49:09.000 He can't be doing that.

01:49:10.000 But the thing is, I wasn't even the smartest.

01:49:11.000 I was the bottom three in my class, so I wasn't the smartest of the bunch.

01:49:15.000 In Nigeria?

01:49:15.000 In Nigeria.

01:49:16.000 So when I came to New Zealand, Form 1, I remember my first day in school.

01:49:19.000 They had a test, like early workout or something, or one of the first weeks in school.

01:49:23.000 We had to do times table, and I knew the song in my head, so I just like...

01:49:29.000 Finish, miss.

01:49:30.000 And then all the kids are like, whoa.

01:49:34.000 And I'm just like, the fuck?

01:49:37.000 And then they all thought I was this fucking savant, this genius.

01:49:40.000 And then they started asking me questions like, you know, do you brush your teeth?

01:49:45.000 I'm like, yes, I do.

01:49:47.000 Do you brush your teeth?

01:49:48.000 Like, back home, do you ride on lions?

01:49:52.000 And I went home and I was like, mom, these fucking kids are dumb.

01:49:55.000 All these white kids are stupid.

01:49:57.000 I didn't know.

01:49:57.000 I didn't understand.

01:49:58.000 I just thought like, I do regular shit, but they didn't understand me.

01:50:04.000 My people are different, man, honestly.

01:50:06.000 You've seen it.

01:50:07.000 I'm telling you, man, especially right now, what I want to do in Nigeria, I want to introduce them, take the football or soccer ball out of their hands and show them some gloves.

01:50:17.000 We have some great boxes.

01:50:18.000 We have this thing called Dambe, which is Nigerian wrestling, kind of like the Senegalese type wrestling with some beasts.

01:50:24.000 But Dambe, you know, they wrap rope around one hand, just one hand, and they just paw with the other hand, and they wrestle, and they throw strikes.

01:50:32.000 Also, they have, like, some juju, some black magic, you know, all that kind of stuff.

01:50:35.000 Like, they sprinkle that in there.

01:50:36.000 I got my own as well at 3 a.m., you know.

01:50:38.000 But literally, I can't wait to, like, show them, like, because when I went back, I was trying to just chill, low-key, sneak into the country, but my dad said it can't happen.

01:50:48.000 They're watching you.

01:50:49.000 Everyone knows who you are.

01:50:50.000 From the airport, all the area boys.

01:50:52.000 Ah, Israel, this on ya!

01:50:53.000 Oh my God!

01:50:53.000 Ah, can I take a photo?

01:50:55.000 Police officers showing what's up, showing love.

01:50:58.000 Crooked police officers, some of them.

01:51:00.000 They're showing what's up, showing love.

01:51:01.000 And, like, I didn't realize, like, they stay up till 4 a.m.

01:51:04.000 to watch me and Kamaru fight.

01:51:05.000 Wow.

01:51:06.000 They're staying up.

01:51:06.000 And I've always said I wanted to be the guy, like, what Pacquiao was to the Philippines.

01:51:12.000 Yeah.

01:51:12.000 You know?

01:51:13.000 The way, when he fights, the whole country shuts down.

01:51:15.000 Crime drops, everything.

01:51:16.000 Yeah.

01:51:16.000 I wanted to, like, I feel like after this now, it's going to keep blowing up.

01:51:20.000 And I'm going to go back next year.

01:51:21.000 I'm going to go back next year.

01:51:22.000 I'm going to...

01:51:24.000 I hope they see the possibilities, because I'm telling you, man, the countries, I mean, it was Brazil at first in the early stages of MMA, then Japan, then America, then, you know, like, it always goes back and forth, and then, you know, the Oceania people right now, we're doing some work, but I'm telling you, once, not just Nigerians,

01:51:40.000 once the Africans, once they start stepping in, it's gonna be like when 50 Cent dropped in the club and killed the whole game for a while.

01:51:46.000 Like, honestly, I'm telling you, like, they're gonna run the game for a long time, for a long time, and I'm I'm happy to be a guy that's kind of like paving the way.

01:51:54.000 It's crazy though.

01:51:55.000 What was it like going back there?

01:51:56.000 Being the champ.

01:51:57.000 Going back there.

01:51:58.000 It was beautiful.

01:51:59.000 Like just seeing my people.

01:52:01.000 It's different when you're in Vegas and oh my god dude I'm your biggest fan.

01:52:03.000 Oh my god.

01:52:05.000 But it's different when you see like a kid just in shock that you're even standing there.

01:52:10.000 Like just in shock that you're in his presence.

01:52:13.000 And for me I don't see myself as a style man.

01:52:15.000 I'm Israel.

01:52:15.000 I did something at the end of the day.

01:52:16.000 But when they're looking at you and just like And this kid, I remember he was on my Instagram, he was kicking a bag and I just showed him, I tweaked him.

01:52:24.000 I just told him to pivot on the foot, stand on the toes and turn the hip.

01:52:29.000 Literally within a minute, he improved his kick like that.

01:52:32.000 And I got it on my Instagram somewhere, but man, I was really impressed.

01:52:35.000 And that was just a little snippet of the creativity of our people.

01:52:40.000 Look at that.

01:52:41.000 The way.

01:52:41.000 Oh, man, this guy made me cry.

01:52:42.000 That's beautiful.

01:52:42.000 This is my old primary school, man.

01:52:44.000 Like, going back here, I was looking at...

01:52:46.000 I used to hide there for hide-and-seek, and everything seemed so small, because when you're a kid, everything's so big.

01:52:51.000 This is me at, I think, Lakey Beach, just chilling with the people, man.

01:52:54.000 I was immersed in the culture.

01:52:55.000 Seen all those kids with their uniforms on, grabbing at your belt.

01:52:58.000 That is amazing.

01:52:59.000 Yeah, honestly, man.

01:53:00.000 It was like...

01:53:00.000 It reminded me of...

01:53:01.000 Fuck, goosebumps again.

01:53:02.000 It reminded me of...

01:53:03.000 What is this gym here?

01:53:04.000 This is just...

01:53:06.000 The stadium.

01:53:07.000 I went there to go watch, and then the guy, the trainer was like, Shay, you are not training.

01:53:11.000 I'm like, what do you mean?

01:53:12.000 He's like, you are training.

01:53:13.000 Get up.

01:53:13.000 I was like, okay.

01:53:14.000 I had my fucking nice Jordans on, and I just had to work.

01:53:18.000 I think he was trying to flex.

01:53:19.000 He was trying to show me, I'm going to work you.

01:53:20.000 And he put us to work.

01:53:22.000 And that's me on holiday as well.

01:53:24.000 What is this video?

01:53:25.000 Can people watch this?

01:53:26.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:53:27.000 Go on my Instagram or go on EMG. What do you call it?

01:53:30.000 EMG Access.

01:53:32.000 It says, Israel, the last stylebender Adesanya in Nigeria.

01:53:35.000 It's on the YouTube.

01:53:36.000 EMG YouTube Engage Media Group.

01:53:38.000 That's beautiful, man.

01:53:39.000 Yeah, but there's some more.

01:53:40.000 We're doing a documentary right now, and Jeff's been following me around since 2015, and I want to say this is the end of the first documentary, but the beginning of the next one, I want to show what I can do in Nigeria, what I can do in Africa, because even Kamaru went to Makoko.

01:53:57.000 We almost died there.

01:53:58.000 We were in there with some killers.

01:53:59.000 You see how that plays?

01:54:00.000 Go back, Jamie, go back.

01:54:02.000 See how that plays?

01:54:03.000 Go back, forward.

01:54:04.000 It's like a maze.

01:54:05.000 Go for it.

01:54:05.000 Yeah, see how that's like a maze?

01:54:07.000 Yeah.

01:54:07.000 The first day we went there, I went there just trying to like show love to the hood, say what's up.

01:54:11.000 And all this area boy is like, oh God, what do you need to do here?

01:54:15.000 Like, what are you doing here?

01:54:16.000 And I'm like, I'm just looking around here.

01:54:17.000 Ah, you kind of, you're more set to loss.

01:54:19.000 Like, you got to settle them.

01:54:20.000 You got to make sure they're all right.

01:54:21.000 I was like, don't worry.

01:54:22.000 We'll look after you guys.

01:54:23.000 But then within the first five minutes, me and Abiola, my friend who came with me, he's like, we got to go.

01:54:28.000 Because he's very smart.

01:54:30.000 He's very, very wrong.

01:54:31.000 So we're like, all right.

01:54:31.000 And I had a guy with an AK with me, a security guard.

01:54:33.000 And the guys, the gangsters, they were kind of flexing.

01:54:35.000 I was like, oh, fuck you guys then.

01:54:37.000 So the next day, see, this is the asshole in me.

01:54:40.000 I went there shirtless, all my chains on, fucking vest, and I got like more security with me with more AKs and went deep.

01:54:47.000 We didn't have to go deep to get that sky shot.

01:54:49.000 And Jeff hates me for it because he fucking panicked the whole time.

01:54:52.000 And I went deep and there's all these killers, man.

01:54:54.000 Like literally, I'm talking like you see scars on them like marks because that's the body counts and shit like that.

01:54:59.000 And this one dude looked like Kimbo Slice.

01:55:02.000 And he's like the head honcho.

01:55:05.000 And he was arguing with this other guy because they were saying like, no, I'm giving them the tour.

01:55:09.000 What they give us is my money and I'll sell it to you.

01:55:11.000 And he's like, no, I'm the big dog.

01:55:13.000 You report to me.

01:55:14.000 And they were kind of having an argument about it.

01:55:16.000 And it was real heated.

01:55:17.000 If they wanted to fuck us up right there and say, fuck you guys, it's a fucking maze.

01:55:21.000 They know that shit like the back of their hand.

01:55:23.000 I have no idea.

01:55:25.000 We're fucked.

01:55:26.000 And you're walking through it.

01:55:27.000 Exactly.

01:55:27.000 And you're walking on planks in the water.

01:55:28.000 You saw the water.

01:55:29.000 It's fucking dirty, like disgusting.

01:55:31.000 But that's like one of the slums in Nigeria.

01:55:33.000 But then you see before the shot, that was Victoria Island.

01:55:35.000 That's like the contrast of Nigeria, man.

01:55:37.000 You have dirt poor and you have well-off Lamborghinis, like people living nicely.

01:55:44.000 Those are all the guys who scam people.

01:55:46.000 Yeah, but they're smart as fuck.

01:55:48.000 Yes!

01:55:49.000 The email shit is so old now.

01:55:51.000 What do they do now?

01:55:53.000 I don't know.

01:55:55.000 I'm not your uncle.

01:55:57.000 Don't check your emails.

01:56:00.000 I'm a Nigerian prince.

01:56:01.000 Don't worry.

01:56:01.000 You get your money.

01:56:02.000 Just wait.

01:56:03.000 It's just the fees.

01:56:04.000 The fees got to like...

01:56:05.000 The way the bank account's set up, all that kind of stuff.

01:56:08.000 Yeah.

01:56:09.000 It's amazing that they figured it out to the point where that is synonymous with scams.

01:56:14.000 It's like you saw the cheaters.

01:56:15.000 Nigerian scams.

01:56:16.000 Yeah.

01:56:16.000 Yeah, you hear about...

01:56:17.000 And that's the thing.

01:56:18.000 Like, we're scamming, but a lot of them, it's because of the opportunity.

01:56:20.000 They're so smart, but the opportunity isn't there.

01:56:23.000 So they can't go to school.

01:56:25.000 They can't do that.

01:56:25.000 Do you hear about the guy who sold a fucking airport?

01:56:29.000 That didn't exist to Japan?

01:56:31.000 Really?

01:56:32.000 Remember that one?

01:56:32.000 A Nigerian dude sold a fucking airport that wasn't a real airport.

01:56:37.000 We're winning.

01:56:38.000 Yeah, I mean...

01:56:38.000 No many people do that with like buildings or Airbnbs, but that's a fucking airport.

01:56:41.000 An airport!

01:56:42.000 Okay.

01:56:43.000 Bro, he sold an airport.

01:56:44.000 Fuck, the Japanese are smart too, man.

01:56:46.000 That's the thing.

01:56:47.000 Yeah, we talked about it like a couple of weeks ago.

01:56:49.000 Yeah.

01:56:50.000 It's bonkers.

01:56:51.000 Like, they spent a fuckload of money.

01:56:53.000 It was like in the 80s or something?

01:56:55.000 The 90s?

01:56:55.000 Oh, really?

01:56:56.000 Yeah.

01:56:56.000 They gotta make a movie about that.

01:56:58.000 Oh, they should.

01:56:58.000 Here it goes.

01:56:59.000 $242 million.

01:57:00.000 Fuck off.

01:57:00.000 Sold a fake airport for $242 million.

01:57:04.000 How do you do that?

01:57:04.000 It's fucking Nigeria, man!

01:57:06.000 I don't even understand.

01:57:07.000 Like I'm saying, this is not the best representative of our people, but this shows you how smart, how fucking smart they are, man.

01:57:13.000 Well, listen, man, if you're stuck and you got nowhere out and you live in that maze, that's the way out.

01:57:17.000 Exactly.

01:57:17.000 Like, you got to do what you got to do.

01:57:19.000 I understand that.

01:57:20.000 When I was in Dubai, I don't know if I should say this story.

01:57:23.000 Fuck it, no one's listening.

01:57:24.000 We're on the boat for someone's birthday party, and I'm seeing all these kids, like 17, 16, 18, with like iced out Rolexes.

01:57:34.000 You know, I'm on a yacht partying for some guy's birthday, and they're just out there flexing.

01:57:39.000 And I'm just like, what do you do?

01:57:41.000 He said, oh, I invested in Bitcoin early, da-da-da-da-da.

01:57:43.000 I was like, uh-huh.

01:57:44.000 Now, Yahoo boy.

01:57:45.000 They call them Yahoo boys.

01:57:48.000 But I knew already, but the thing is, they're so smart.

01:57:50.000 They know how to work.

01:57:51.000 They know how to like...

01:57:52.000 And they're all over the world.

01:57:53.000 Like I said, we're like a virus.

01:57:55.000 Nigerians are everywhere.

01:57:56.000 Wherever you look in the world, we're everywhere.

01:57:58.000 And we have our claim.

01:57:59.000 But I can't wait till this documentary, man.

01:58:01.000 Like, I really want to like...

01:58:03.000 Show people over there what we can do.

01:58:06.000 I want to show, first of all, the story.

01:58:08.000 It's not going to be like...

01:58:09.000 McGregor's documentary was dope, but it was more catered to the MMA fans.

01:58:13.000 And anyone can watch it, but I want this to be more like the soccer mom can watch it.

01:58:17.000 Someone from the Burbs, someone from Alaska can watch it and still relate.

01:58:22.000 There's different levels to this, but I'm looking forward to really putting that out.

01:58:26.000 Are you thinking about opening gyms over there?

01:58:29.000 In Nigeria, yes.

01:58:30.000 Eventually.

01:58:31.000 I want to kit out some of the gyms, like the one I went to, the sports stadium I was at.

01:58:36.000 I want to help them out with some stuff.

01:58:38.000 That's later on when I go through.

01:58:39.000 And normally I do things like this.

01:58:41.000 Like when I went there, I did some stuff, but I don't do it for like, it's real weird when you're on this platform and I see people trying to do shit for the likes.

01:58:47.000 For me, I cringe because I can't do that.

01:58:49.000 But when you have a platform like this and you can bring attention to certain causes and certain people, Yes.

01:59:12.000 Adelaide.

01:59:15.000 I was watching him cage side, and he was hitting this guy with body shots.

01:59:18.000 You could hear the pounding, and I was just like, wow.

01:59:23.000 In his last fight, he shot some, what do you call it, some fortitude as well, because he got hit, he got cracked, and then he cracked the guy and dropped him.

01:59:30.000 I'm telling you, man, there's a few more coming, and I can't.

01:59:33.000 It'll be fantastic if you open up a gym there instead of being a proven ground.

01:59:36.000 A chain of gyms.

01:59:37.000 I really want to open a chain of gyms.

01:59:39.000 Maybe it doesn't have to be a UFC gym, but they can get involved.

01:59:42.000 They can get a cut.

01:59:43.000 Oh, well, UFC, I'm sure, would be excited about doing that now.

01:59:46.000 They see what's happening.

01:59:48.000 Yeah, it'd be a great thing for them, too.

01:59:49.000 And UFC, I don't know if it's going to be in Nigeria, but UFC Africa.

01:59:52.000 Either Nigeria, Morocco, or South Africa.

01:59:55.000 Do they have good places to watch over there?

01:59:58.000 Do they have it set up?

01:59:59.000 Stadiums, 100%.

02:00:01.000 The thing is the red tapes you've got to cross.

02:00:03.000 I'm sure they can get through those.

02:00:04.000 The UFC had that in China as well.

02:00:06.000 Right.

02:00:06.000 At one of the shows, I can't remember which one.

02:00:08.000 This is one of the early ones.

02:00:09.000 They were threatening to cut the power after a certain time.

02:00:11.000 So they had to settle some people to keep the lights on.

02:00:15.000 Keep the shackles on.

02:00:16.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:00:17.000 And that's easy for them.

02:00:18.000 The UFC, they got money.

02:00:19.000 I've seen the Apex building.

02:00:20.000 They got a couple bucks.

02:00:20.000 A couple, a little bit.

02:00:21.000 Yeah.

02:00:22.000 Listen, man, you gotta get the fuck out of here.

02:00:24.000 Why?

02:00:24.000 Thanks for coming in, my brother.

02:00:25.000 I know.

02:00:26.000 How dare they?

02:00:26.000 Well, we did two and a half hours.

02:00:28.000 Fuck off.

02:00:29.000 You're lying.

02:00:29.000 It's 2.30, man.

02:00:30.000 Fuck off.

02:00:31.000 Yeah.

02:00:31.000 It flies in this room.

02:00:32.000 This is a time zone.

02:00:33.000 It is.

02:00:33.000 Like the hyperbolic time chamber.

02:00:35.000 Yeah.

02:00:36.000 Listen, brother, I'm happy with what's happened to you.

02:00:38.000 It's beautiful.

02:00:38.000 Thank you so much for the love, man.

02:00:39.000 It's my pleasure.

02:00:40.000 Always, my brother.

02:00:41.000 It's great to see that you're doing everything the right way, man.

02:00:44.000 It's an honor.

02:00:45.000 It's an honor to have you in here.

02:00:47.000 It's special for me to watch someone go through, navigate it.

02:00:51.000 Honestly, you have no idea.

02:00:52.000 My old boss used to get mad at me because she'd be like, get that out of your ear.

02:00:56.000 Because I'd have like one headphone in it and I'd just be like...

02:01:00.000 And then I'll do it on the site you can't see.

02:01:02.000 So for me to have like you, Brian Redbin, you know, I think Young Jamie was out here back then as well.

02:01:07.000 Was he?

02:01:08.000 Way back in the day.

02:01:09.000 But like literally, like it was just cool just to be here and do this shit.

02:01:12.000 Like fuck, it's all manifestation.

02:01:13.000 It's crazy.

02:01:14.000 Keep going, man.

02:01:14.000 That's how the world works.

02:01:15.000 We in the Matrix.

02:01:16.000 You're showing everybody too though.

02:01:18.000 Exactly.

02:01:19.000 Oh man.

02:01:20.000 Alright, that's it.

02:01:21.000 Respect brother.

02:01:21.000 Respect to you.

02:01:22.000 Much love.

02:01:22.000 Respect Young Jamie.

02:01:23.000 Bye everybody.

02:01:24.000 Bye.

The Joe Rogan Experience - November 11, 2019

JRE MMA Show #82 with Israel Adesanya

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